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* ryanakca has fun writing patches for kopete-kde400:03
nixternalI have something for you!00:04
nixternalhttp://www.nixternal.com/~rj/html/    <- quick working mockup for the site, know it works in konqi just fine00:05
nixternalryanakca: ^^00:06
ryanakcanixternal: oooh, very pretty :)00:06
ryanakcaif we end up taking that mockup, which I think we might up have to since its the only one thats different from the ubuntu.com one in a way other than colour... it'll be uber easy to port it to drupal :)00:08
nixternalshouldn't be to difficult00:09
nixternalI whipped that up in like an hour00:09
* ryanakca nods00:09
nixternalI am working on transparent dhtml popup windows for the "Learn more..." buttons00:09
* ryanakca guesses it wouldn't be too hard to pretty up those buttons?00:09
nixternalthe will look like the boxes in the middle, but will contain info on the section selected00:10
nixternalI was thinking of just using dhtml icon buttons maybe00:10
* ryanakca nods00:12
nixternalwould be nice to use some dhtml and make it fluid and dynamic00:13
ryanakcahmm... well, if you want to code it up for drupal, I wont stop you :)00:14
nixternalheh00:15
nixternalI was already thinking about that00:15
nixternalI might just throw drupal on my server here and play around00:15
* ryanakca nods00:20
* ryanakca wonders how hard it would be to set up a drupal server... mhb says its rather easy00:20
ryanakcahey bddebian00:23
nixternalboo00:23
bddebianHi ryanakca, nixternal :-)00:24
nixternalhowdy00:24
blizzzek-kde4gn800:52
Hobbseenixternal: wow!03:06
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Nightrosenixternal: very nifty - like it04:20
Hobbseenixternal: *drool*04:35
* Hobbsee <3 irssi-proxy & irssi-notifier04:35
nixternalHobbsee: using the proxy and notifier ey...doesn't Konversation pick up the highlights still?04:55
Hobbseenixternal: yeah, appears to04:55
Hobbseethis is *sooo* sweet04:55
Hobbseei happened to find the notifier before setting up the proxy04:55
nixternalI might have to give the proxy a lookover04:55
nixternalyou talking the notifier that I think vorian created?04:56
Hobbseei think so04:56
Hobbseeit's not fnotify04:56
nixternalok, ya I love that notifier script04:56
Hobbseeno idea why it's showing the ban list every time i add a connection to it, though04:58
nixternalumm I remember someone else having that problem04:59
* Hobbsee wonders how one gets scrollback into the offsite client05:01
emilsedghis adept being developed under KDE repositories? or Ubuntu's?07:59
Lureemilsedgh: I think mornfall has own darcs repository08:00
emilsedghah08:00
emilsedghi just wanted to give the new version a try, is it Qt/KDE 3 or 4?08:00
Jucatoemilsedgh: KDE 408:06
emilsedghyes! :P08:06
jpatrickemilsedgh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive09:28
emilsedghthanks jpatrick09:29
jpatrickemilsedgh: have bug hunting09:29
emilsedghjpatrick: any git or svn reporsitory? or normall tarballs? these are all deb packages which has so many dependencies but i havent KDE 4 packages09:39
jpatrickemilsedgh: not that I know of, mornfall?09:40
emilsedghaah, have to go, be back later09:41
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blizzzekmoin09:51
jpatrickguten tag blizzzek09:54
blizzzekguten morgen jpatrick :)09:54
jpatrickoh, ja, das :)09:55
blizzzekgleich mal frühstück jagen09:58
MidMarkguys the daily live of desktop kubuntu hardy cd is based with filesystem from latest alpha, known?10:26
stdinis built daily from whatever packages are out at that time, it's newer than the latest alpha10:27
MidMarkyes it should, but it is not right now10:27
MidMarkdownloaded the today's one and it is based on filesystem of alpha310:27
MidMarkreally :)10:27
Hobbseehas the livefs built since alpha 3?10:28
stdinlooks like only alternate, that I can see10:28
MidMarkhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080127/10:28
MidMarkthis is alpha3 ^10:28
MidMarkmaybe there is a bug in the building iso server10:29
stdinah -live, how do you know that's alpha 3?10:29
MidMarkbecause kernel is 2.6.24-3 (instead of -5) and filesystem image in the cd is dated 9/1/200810:29
MidMarkdownload and try ;)10:30
stdindon't have to, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080127/hardy-desktop-i386.manifest will give me a list10:31
HobbseeMidMark: more likely that the seeds havent' been updated10:31
Hobbseeand the metapackages been rebuilt10:32
* Hobbsee checks the last time livefses built10:32
HobbseeMidMark: not a bug.  livefses haven't succeeded to build after that date10:33
MidMarkah ok, just want to let you note that10:34
MidMarkniiice, updated to latest packages and now kubuntu turned off monitor :(10:42
MidMarkseems acpi or power management bug10:42
Hobbseesys-config-printer.  erk.  i think i'll leave whoever broke that to unbreak it again10:43
tomamorning10:49
Hobbseehiya toma10:50
tomaHobbsee: ! how are you ?10:53
Hobbseetoma: doing OK.  fiddling with dns.10:54
dinosaur-rushi11:46
dinosaur-russorry if I'm annoying, but what about updating qt4-dev-tools package? currently it cannot be installed due to version conflict with libqt4-core package, which is newer than needed by the former one11:49
jpatrickdinosaur-rus: I think it's in backports11:53
dinosaur-rusjpatrick: so there's no hope that it'll be possible to install qt4-dev-tools without downgrading libqt4* packages?11:55
jpatrickdinosaur-rus: are they not in backports11:56
dinosaur-rusjpatrick: no12:01
jpatrickodd12:01
dinosaur-rusRiddel: "File Conflicts" link on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles page is invalid12:09
jpatrickdinosaur-rus: you missed an l12:10
dinosaur-rus?12:10
dinosaur-rusah12:11
dinosaur-rusRiddell: "File Conflicts" link on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles page is invalid12:11
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dinosaur-ruswhat user directory will KDE4 use, ~/.kde4 or ~/.kde? I mean, won't there be a mixture of old KDE3 and new KDE4 data after installing the latter?12:51
stdinit uses ~/.kde4 right now, it's hard-coded into kde4libs12:51
stdin(when $KDEHOME isn't set that is)12:52
dinosaur-russtdin: ok, thx12:55
MidMarkguys why all gtk apps looks so bad compared to gutsy? firefox and synaptics are worse than before like in older kubuntu releases... removed gtk theme?13:37
dinosaur-rusMidMark: gtk-qt-engine is here and working :)13:39
MidMarkI'm talking about hardy defaul13:39
MidMarkall gtk apps looks like old programs in 90s13:40
dinosaur-rusMidMark: ahh, sorry. I'm on Gutsy and it works well :)13:42
flipstarfor firefox you can install easily themes..but i have the same prob13:44
dinosaur-ruscheck for gtk-qt-theme, may be it conflicts with some other packages you have...13:45
flipstarthere is no gtk-qt-theme on hardy..13:46
MidMarkah that is why... why?13:47
Jucatoinfo gtk2-engines-gtk-qt hardy13:47
Jucato!info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt hardy13:48
ubotugtk2-engines-gtk-qt (source: gtk-qt-engine): transitional dummy package. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 7 kB, installed size 52 kB13:48
dinosaur-rusJucato: wasn't it replaced by gtk-qt-theme?13:48
MidMarkJucato: so now is optional?13:48
Jucatodinosaur-rus: not sure13:49
JucatoMidMark: hm?13:49
MidMarkJucato: I mean there is a reason why gtk apps are not themed by default in hardy? missing that package replaced? what?13:49
Jucatoare you in a kde4 session?13:50
MidMarkno13:50
dinosaur-rusJucato: description of gtk2-engines-gtk-qt says that it's replaced with gtk-theme-qt13:50
flipstarno sucess with gtk2-engines-gtk-qt13:50
Jucatocheck in System Settings -> Apperance -> GTK+ Styles and Fonts if it's set to use your KDE Style13:50
dinosaur-rus!info gtk-theme-qt hardy13:50
ubotuPackage gtk-theme-qt does not exist in hardy13:50
Jucatodinosaur-rus: probably13:50
flipstarbut i didnt restartet or so13:51
dinosaur-rusoops13:51
Jucato!info gtk-qt-engine hardy13:51
ubotugtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 100 kB, installed size 476 kB13:51
dinosaur-rusahh :)13:51
MidMarkJucato: yes it is, but probably missing that package?13:51
MidMarkseems optional13:52
MidMark!info gtk-qt-engine gutsy13:52
ubotugtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8~svn-rev36-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 99 kB, installed size 496 kB13:52
MidMarkmmm13:52
Jucatoum... just because it's optional doesn't mean it's not installed by default. those are repository sections, not really "installed by default" indicators13:52
Jucato!info gwenview13:52
ubotugwenview (source: gwenview): image viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 838 kB, installed size 2448 kB13:52
dinosaur-rusMidMark: broken Hardy package?13:52
Jucatogwenview is in main/optional.. but it's installed by default :)13:53
MidMarkJucato: right I have that package and settings are ok, but hardy does not have themed gtk, or if yes it's sooo bad13:53
Jucato[21:52] <MidMark> Jucato: yes it is, but probably missing that package? <-- if the package is missing, then you won't have the GTK+ Styles and Fonts section... so the package is installed13:54
MidMarkI have screenshot if you want, but maybe you have a gtk program and hardy aswell to check it13:54
Jucatoother than that, not sure what else to say13:54
MidMarkmmm13:55
flipstarthe wired thing is that this is only on some gtk apps not on all..13:56
iRonMidMark: try "ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde ~/.gtkrc-2.0" and then run firefox13:57
JucatoI think it only works on GTK+ 2 apps (based on the description)13:57
JucatoiRon: ooh didn't know about that :)13:59
MidMarkiRon: yeeeah13:59
MidMarkthat worked thanx, but why this is broken in hardy?13:59
iRonMidMark: it will be fixed i guess.. :)14:00
MidMarkI hope :)14:00
MidMarkthen two questions: 1) a lot of modules in system settings are missing libpython2.5.so known?14:02
iRonMidMark: there is a workaround for this14:03
MidMarkinteresting14:03
iRonMidMark: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1 /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so14:04
iRon:)14:04
MidMarkanother thing to be fixed? :)14:04
iRonyep14:04
iRonthis bugs already in LP14:04
MidMarkshould I report the gtk one?14:05
iRonMidMark: it is reported too..14:05
MidMarkok cool then second question: I have 100% freeze with my broadcom 4311 chip pcmcia, should I report to kernel team?14:06
iRonMidMark: sure14:08
MidMarkI think it's a bugin b43legacy driver or a conflict with older bcm43xx don't know14:08
MidMarkbut just inserting the card results in a 100% lockup of all notebook14:08
iRonMidMark: when it locks? on kernel module initialization? or when you receiving network data?14:11
MidMarkiRon: according to system log there are module initialization then hal say something then lock, now I'm posting the entire log in a BR14:15
MidMarkno it's a bcm4306 not 4311 sorry14:19
MidMarkbug #18271614:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182716 in linux "bcm4306 doesn't work with b43 / ssb" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18271614:34
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snikkeri've got some trouble to run vmware (libpng12 error) after the update of some packages, i'm under gutsy on amd6414:51
iRonsnikker: error log?14:53
snikkeriRon: i've got this on console: "/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2)"14:54
iRonsnikker: i got that error too.. but vmware works fine14:54
snikkeriRon: you have amd64?14:55
iRonno :)14:55
snikkeriRon: i've amd64...14:56
iRonbut error message is the same..14:56
snikkeriRon: yes, it's true... but fo me after error msg nothing happen...14:56
blizzzekfile selector in kate-kde4 takes doubleclicks only, no matter the setting in kde. there is no option in the plugin settings either. this is a bug, isn't it?15:04
ryanakcablizzzek: umm... I would say so... but don't take my word on it.15:05
blizzzekryanakca: ok, gonna file it15:06
blizzzek18636115:14
ryanakcabug 18636115:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186361 in kdesdk-kde4 "File selector plugin reacts to doubleclick only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18636115:15
ryanakcablizzzek: thanks :)15:15
blizzzekryanakca: np15:15
ryanakcablizzzek: please answer the questions added to the bug15:21
blizzzekryanakca: done15:26
ryanakcablizzzek: heh, can't say that I'm experiencing it :(15:29
blizzzekryanakca: hardy or gutsy?15:30
ryanakcagutsy15:30
blizzzeksame here15:30
ryanakcas/gutsy/hardy15:30
blizzzekhehe ;)15:31
ryanakcamight want to add that your running an up to date gutsy to the bug15:31
blizzzekyeah, gonna do this. in the bug descripton or as comment?15:32
ryanakcaeither or.15:32
blizzzekits in the description now15:33
ryanakcathanks :)15:33
blizzzeknp15:33
blizzzekwell, if its working in hardy its not a big problem then15:34
ryanakcameh, upgrade to hardy to get it fixed :)15:34
blizzzekthats an idea. next week maybe :D meanwhile i use the home pc only as music and tv player...15:39
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fdovingTonio_: great news, is this commited to trunk?16:14
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Tonio_fdoving: what is great news ?17:25
Tonio_fdoving: ah the shellprocess to process transition, yes it is17:26
Tonio_have to go.....17:26
mornfallEvening.18:19
nosrednaekimhey18:20
mornfallI'm building alpha 2.18:23
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mornfallRiddell, yuriy, I have uploaded alpha2 to my PPA, it's not built yet, but if it succeeds, the debconf and download bits are in place. See new PPA description (https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive).19:01
nosrednaekimmornfall: does it insall to the kde4 path?19:03
mornfallnosrednaekim: Yes.19:05
nosrednaekimmornfall: then i'll test it out later...19:06
mornfallIt's a KDE4 app.19:06
mornfallWell, it's not built so we'll see whether it even builds. (I may have missed something. I often do.)19:07
nosrednaekimok.19:07
mornfallOff to bed now. Laters.19:07
nosrednaekimk19:08
steveireHi. I can't compile kdebase 4.1 from trunk because there is not a recent enough libxine package in gutsy. (requires v1.9). Is this likely to change?19:15
steveireI also checked the ppa for kde4 and it does not have it either.19:17
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steveireping anyone?19:27
Riddellsteveire: we should get it backported19:33
Riddellsteveire: if you can test the hardy package for compiling and running on gutsy we can get that going19:33
fdovingi've compiled the hardy ones on gutsy, worked for me a while ago.19:34
steveireOK. What else can I do?19:34
fdovingupgrade to hardy, backport from hardy, switch distro, or wait. :)19:34
steveireI mean to minimise the waiting and get the package backported.19:35
fdovingthen i would fetch the xine package-source from hardy, and build it myself.19:35
steveireI notice 1.1.10 is available now. I can see kdebase requiring that soon instead.19:35
steveirefdoving: That won't help getting it into the backports repo though, will it?19:36
fdovingsteveire: no, for that you would need to file a backport request bug iirc.19:38
steveireThe point is it should be easy for anyone wanting to compile kde4 trunk to use kubuntu to do so. That would probably means getting libxine and soprano backported.19:39
fdovingdo we have qt 4.4 ?19:39
steveireI think Riddell already said it would be backported. There must be such a bug already.19:39
Riddellcheck on launchpad.net/gutsy-backports if there's a bug already19:40
steveirefdoving: I don't think so. I don't think kde4 requires it yet. Probably will soon though.19:40
Riddellfdoving: no, packaging that would be good too (in a ppa)19:40
fdovingi don't really use much packages for kde things at the moment, everything comes from svn.19:40
fdovingcompiling things is a breeze with recent hardware and cmake.19:41
steveirefdoving: Yeah, but other distros seem to provide packages for the dependacies at least. This is a request for backporting libxine, but with slightly different motivation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/18057719:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180577 in gutsy-backports "libxine1-plugins depends on libxine1-gnome" [Undecided,New]19:44
steveireie, not everything comes from svn if you have to get libxine externally first.19:44
fdovingno, i got libxine from hardy :)19:45
fdovingproviding packages is always a good thing.19:45
steveireSo do I need to file an explicit 'backport libxine' bug to get an action on this? Should I then mark the above as a duplicate? Ditto this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/18058019:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180580 in gutsy-backports "libsoprano4 too old to compile kde4" [Undecided,New]19:46
steveirefdoving: Can I just get the libxine package from hardy repos and dpkg -i it instead of compiling it? I'm looking for simple instructions to put here: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian19:50
fdovingsteveire: try. i think you will need to recompile it.19:51
steveirehttp://rafb.net/p/KqvvqG51.html Is this workable or should I just build from source now and put instructions to do the same?19:55
fdovingyou should build from source.19:56
steveireOK. I'm installing 1.1.10 for now.20:03
steveireMaybe I'll step it back if backports matches it.20:03
steveireDo I need to remove any existing libxine packages before make install ing?20:16
nosrednaekimsteveire: why are you reinstalling xine?20:16
nosrednaekim*recompiling20:17
nosrednaekimsteveire: and yeah... that might be a good idea20:17
steveirekde4base requires v1.1.9 for multimedia support. Which packages?20:17
fdovingsteveire: why don't you just fetch the package-source from hardy and compile the package?20:17
steveirefdoving: Is that any different?20:18
fdovingyes, you get packages :)20:18
fdovinginstead of random files laying around after a 'make install'20:18
steveiremeh, make uninstall can take care aof the 'random files' which are all in /usr/local anyway.20:19
fdovingwhat about other depends on xine?20:19
steveirewell that's what I'm asking about now I think20:19
fdovingyou would need to make equivs packages to statisfy the other depends anyway. so making the real thing is better.20:19
steveireI tried to remove libxine1 and it wanted to remove amarok kaffeine etc.20:19
steveirebetter would be upgrading to a backported package, but that's probably not going to happen any time soon. What equivalent packages do you mean?20:20
fdovinghang on, i'll walk you through backporting on your own in a sec.20:23
fdovingsteveire: ok, so you wnat to backport xine, then go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/libxine120:24
steveirefdoving: Remember that this is more for the techbase page. I don't want to put longwinded instructions on there about compiling the hardy package20:24
fdovingthat will search for packages named libxine1 in a ll distros.20:24
fdovinganyone able to compile kde will be able to do this easily.20:25
fdovingnow, find hardy in the list, and clikc it.20:25
fdovingnow you're at http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libs/libxine120:25
fdovingat the bottom you see a line:20:26
fdovingSource Package: xine-lib, Download: [dsc] [xine-lib_1.1.9.orig.tar.gz] [xine-lib_1.1.9-0ubuntu1.diff.gz]20:26
fdovingtheese are links: [dsc] [xine-lib_1.1.9.orig.tar.gz] [xine-lib_1.1.9-0ubuntu1.diff.gz]20:26
fdovingdownload them to an empty folder, all 3.20:27
fdovingthen you'll have a folder with 3 files, the .dsc and the .tar.gz and the .diff.gz20:27
fdovingopen a konsole and cd to the folder.20:27
nixternalkde4base doesn't require xine 1.1.9, it recommends it because <= 1.1.8 has issues playing short files20:28
nixternalhardy has 1.1.9 now20:28
steveirenixternal: trunk needs to be compiled with DISABLE_MULTIMEDIA if you don't have 1.1.920:29
nixternalI have no problem with it, I just get the warning on my Gutsy box20:29
fdovingnixternal: do you have trunk? aka 4.1?20:29
nixternalaka 4.0.1, yes20:30
fdoving4.0.1 is branch, not trunk.20:30
nixternalthey have already branched it?20:30
fdovingyes, at release it became the 4.0 branch.20:30
nixternalya, I don't know what I was thinking there20:31
fdovingsteveire: in that konsole you use 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc' to unpack the source package. (dpkg-source is in the dpkg-dev package).20:32
steveirefdoving: I took a short cut and apt-get-ed the source.20:33
fdovingsteveire: then 'cd xine-lib-1.1.9', and then 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc', if you have all depends instaleld it will make .debs for you.20:33
fdovingsteveire: from hardy?20:33
fdovingsteveire: if you have hardy 'deb-src' lines in your sources.list that would also work.20:34
steveirefdoving: %s/gutsy/hardy/g in sourceslist, get source and reverse.20:34
fdovingsure, if you feel that is faster.20:34
steveireThere's a lot of unmet build dependancies20:34
fdovingthey would need to be installed.20:35
steveireDo you reckon there's a timeframe for it to be backported properly? I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.20:35
fdovingsteveire: no idea, you would need to ask some backporter about that. jdong maybe.20:39
steveirehe doesn't seem to be here...20:39
fdovinghe's in -motu20:40
fdovingbbl.20:42
jpatricksteveire: should be processed everyweek20:55
jjesseafternoon20:56
jpatrickevening jjesse20:56
jjesseevening jpatrick20:56
steveirejpatrick: What do you mean?20:56
jpatricksteveire: we backporters only confirm and request backports, the archive admins are the ones who do the source mangling20:57
steveirejpatrick: Do https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/180580 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/180577 count as backport requests?20:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180577 in gutsy-backports "libxine1-plugins depends on libxine1-gnome" [Undecided,New]20:58
steveirejpatrick: And if not how do I make them backport requests.21:00
jpatricksteveire: only members of the ubuntu-backporters team can approve of the21:00
jpatricksteveire: I'll try and look into them soon21:01
steveirejpatrick: Yes, but the team works off a list that they approve from, right? How do I add these to that list?21:01
steveirejpatrick: OK, cool21:01
jpatricksteveire: they already are :)21:01
steveirejpatrick: How?21:02
jpatricksteveire: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/21:03
jdongI was paged :)21:06
jpatrickjdong:  bug #180577 and bug #18058021:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180577 in gutsy-backports "libxine1-plugins depends on libxine1-gnome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18057721:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180580 in gutsy-backports "libsoprano4 too old to compile kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18058021:06
jpatrick< steveire> Do you reckon there's a timeframe for it to be backported properly? I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.21:06
jdongjpatrick: for the xine one, siretart is the man to talk to.... I don't know enough about the changes between versions to go either way21:07
jpatrickjdong: steveire wants them ;)21:08
steveirekde4 trunk needs them21:08
jdongjpatrick: understood, but I recall some rev-dep issues the last time we backported xine, and that was all siretart's doing21:09
jdongjpatrick: if he says it's okay or has specific instructions on how to do it, it's a green light and he can do whatever he likes :)21:09
jpatrickok21:10
jpatrickbtw, I seem to have broken bzr :(21:10
steveirejdong: Were those rev-dep issues that -plugins depends on -plugins-gnome?21:10
jdongsteveire: sorry, I don't recall the specific circumstances21:10
steveireThat's fixed in hardy21:10
jdongsteveire: I believe it was the VDR stuff had to be rebuilt21:10
jdongthere were 2 or 3 source packages that need rebuilding after xine is upgraded21:11
steveireRight so21:11
jdonghas soprano been build-tested21:11
steveirejdong: I've only built it from kdesvn, but I don't think you mean that.21:14
jdongsteveire: I'll handle build testing it from hardy21:15
jdongsteveire: if that goes well then all's good for backporting; the revdeps appear to be solely kubuntu related and upstream seems intelligent about bumping soname if ABI broke21:16
jdongsteveire: and there we go, it just finished building. :)21:16
jdongsteveire: as for the xine one, please have siretart comment on the ticket for me :)21:17
steveirejdong: Cheers. Where can I find siretart?21:20
jdongsteveire: most likely #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu21:55
jdongoh crap22:06
jdonglook at that, new ktorrent22:15
* jdong preps packages22:15
nixternalhehe22:16
crimsunwatch -n30 #kubuntu-devel "ubuntu-main-sponsor"22:16
nixternalI seen it come across my rss feeds22:16
nixternaldamn opensolaris will not install on my desktop22:17
crimsunyou're not supposed to insert the plug into the mug, Rich.22:17
nixternalhehe22:17
nixternaldoesn't want to create the solaris partition22:17
jdongI feel regex-horny today, I should add a watchfile to ktorrent22:21
jdongcrimsun: bug 18645222:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186452 in ktorrent "[interdiff] ktorrent 2.2.5 available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18645222:44
jdongthanks :)22:44
crimsunthat didn't trigger my highlight kthx22:45
crimsun17:16 < crimsun> watch -n30 #kubuntu-devel "ubuntu-main-sponsor"22:45
crimsun:-]22:45
jdongcrimsun: sorry, looks like you'll need to find an ircwatch command ;-)22:45
crimsunpfah, I telnet directly to the ircd.  ircwatch is for wussies.22:46
jdongof course :)22:46
jdongcrimsun: speaking of that, can you magically make my macbook headphone/speaker independent volumes magically work? ;-)22:47
crimsunneed to clarify that, please.22:48
jdongcrimsun: In OS X, I can set my volumes when headphone is attached to be independent of when they are unattached. For example, I mute my speakers while my phones are detached, when I attach them, the volume applet unmutes and restores the last headphone set volume. Then, when I unplug again, the muted volume is restored22:49
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jdongcrimsun: internally it seems like the sound driver uses two channels (Ubuntu labls them front and center) to represent these two volumes22:50
nixternaljeesh, that sounds like way to much work22:50
jdongcrimsun: idn if this is a mixer applet layer or Alsa layer job, but it'd be nice if Ubuntu can do the same22:50
crimsunprobably easier via alsa, but I'm pretty certain people will scream about maintaining the state.22:51
jdongnixternal: well, in OS X it just works. In Ubuntu I have to make sure the vol keys control both front and center else the volume keys don't work half the times22:51
jdongcrimsun: does alsa "know" when the phones are in or out?22:51
crimsunyes22:51
crimsunit's called jack sense22:51
crimsungranted, your driver may not have the appropriate quirk in place to use it correctly.22:52
jdongcool22:52
jdongcurrently, I just have one slider that does something when the speakers are active, the other only does something when the phones are in. It's confusing to remember which is which and makes changing volumes a pain22:53
crimsunlspci -nv |grep -A1 040322:53
jdong00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02) Subsystem: 8384:768022:54
crimsunI could probably more easily do it in PA22:56
crimsun186452 uploaded.22:57
jdongcrimsun: thanks :)22:57
DaSkreechJucato: Hey my man23:13
* DaSkreech hits nixternal with a snow stick23:14
* DaSkreech waves at Hobbsee23:14
DaSkreechRiddell: still in England?23:14

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