[11:49] <Nafallo> !ping
[11:49] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[11:49] <Nafallo> !ping lumberjack.magicalforest.se
[11:51] <jpatrick> win 24
[19:18]  * jpatrick signs
[19:18] <no0tic> jpatrick, log it! :)
[19:18] <jpatrick> no0tic: I did
[19:18] <no0tic> jpatrick, (evitar ban tampoco) :)
[19:19] <no0tic> jpatrick, I saw the auto_bleh footprint in that ban/kick
[19:19] <jpatrick> damn him
[19:20] <erUSUL> what's the diference between removing and kicking someone?
[19:20] <no0tic> erUSUL, elegance
[19:20] <jpatrick> erUSUL: removing does not active autojoin scripts
[19:21] <erUSUL> jpatrick: so /abr is your friend ;)
[19:21] <jpatrick> that's what I've been doing
[19:22] <jpatrick> oh god
[19:22] <jpatrick> if he has so much to do in his "personal life", why bother with this??
[19:23]  * erUSUL shrugs
[19:23] <nalioth> erUSUL: most 'rejoin on kick' scripts have no clue what a /remove is
[19:24] <erUSUL> nalioth: i see thanks ;)
[19:26] <jpatrick> yay, I tink I got him for good this time
[19:28] <erUSUL> jpatrick: good shot i guess ;)
[19:29] <no0tic> jpatrick, he used also 33stb68.codetel.net.do
[19:35] <jpatrick> no0tic: well, he hasn't come back :)
[19:36] <jpatrick> 20:34 < popetmaster> / serer www.irc.cl
[19:36] <no0tic> :)
[19:36] <no0tic> jpatrick, it could be tagged as spam
[19:37] <jpatrick> no0tic: especially since he just join
[19:37] <jpatrick> tempted to /abr yes...
[19:37] <jpatrick> ...must... resist...
[19:37] <nalioth> gentlemen, "assume good faith"
[19:37] <nalioth> people miss using the / all the time
[19:38]  * erUSUL jpatrick aka "easy trigger"
[19:38]  * erUSUL ;)
[19:39] <jpatrick> ok, he said hi and left
[19:39] <no0tic> let him live :)
[19:41] <jpatrick> for now...
[19:44] <jpatrick> HE'S BACK!!!
[19:44] <jpatrick> erUSUL: ^
[19:44] <no0tic> jpatrick, can I? :)
[19:45] <jpatrick> no0tic: go ahead, so I don't get bashed :p
[19:45] <no0tic> jpatrick, first tell him in spanish that evading bans is not a good practice
[19:45] <jpatrick> no0tic: did that
[19:46] <erUSUL> no0tic: i told him in pm is answering in the channel
[19:46]  * jpatrick leaves alone
[19:48] <jpatrick> I thought he was just rude
[19:48] <erUSUL> jpatrick: it was and was rightly banned
[19:48] <no0tic> well, let's throw a coin to see who's going to remove him :)
[19:49] <no0tic> probably it's better to invite him in a temporary -es-ops
[19:49] <jpatrick> or here
[19:50] <no0tic> I hope he can understand english
[19:50] <jpatrick> no, we can't /kick him from there
[19:51] <no0tic> jpatrick, *here?
[19:51] <erUSUL> i have /abr him
[19:52] <jpatrick> erUSUL: I was about to /afr to -es-ops :)
[19:52] <no0tic> :)
[19:52] <no0tic> jpatrick, you can forward now
[19:52] <erUSUL> < mikeincognito> en otro pais te pondrian una pistola en la cabeza y te dispararian
[19:53] <erUSUL> in other country you will be shoot in the head
[19:53] <no0tic> nalioth ^^
[19:53] <jpatrick> we're international, thank you
[19:54] <no0tic> he rejoined with another ip
[19:54] <no0tic> I banforwarded him
[19:54] <jpatrick> good
[19:54] <jpatrick> fresh meat
[19:54] <nalioth> shoot in the head? what?
[19:55] <no0tic> nalioth, mikeincognito said that
[19:55] <erUSUL> nalioth: that's what he said me... i was being "hostile" to him so he said me that
[19:55] <jpatrick> you know, if he had a brain, he'd join with a different nick
[19:56] <erUSUL> nalioth: for some reason reminding him that evading a ban is rude was interpreted by him as "hostility"  XD
[19:56] <jpatrick> and he did
[19:58] <jpatrick> gentleman, he's going to keep reseting his router to death
[19:58] <nalioth> which channel is this?
[19:59] <jpatrick> #ubuntu-es
[20:02] <PriceChild> jpatrick, /mode +b *!?=mikelinu@*.codetel.net.do
[20:02] <PriceChild> then remove the old ones
[20:03] <nalioth> no0tic: jpatrick do you see the ban i just put in #ubuntu-es?
[20:03] <jpatrick> nalioth: yes :)
[20:03] <no0tic> nalioth, yes
[20:03] <nalioth> jpatrick: that should slow him down
[20:03] <nalioth> besides he was cloning severely
[20:05] <no0tic> wow, chanserv left my side of the split
[20:06] <erUSUL> no0tic: mine too
[20:07] <jpatrick> now, I can't op
[20:09]  * erUSUL goes away
[20:10] <no0tic> seems like services are down
[20:10] <no0tic> also nickserv isn't online
[20:23] <jpatrick> erUSUL, no0tic ^^
[20:23] <no0tic> jpatrick, nice
[20:26] <mikelinux_> good afternon ppl
[20:26] <mikelinux_> how can i set emerald as defauld wm on kde 3.5.8
[20:26] <mikelinux_> ?
[20:27] <no0tic> mikelinux_, this is not a support channel
[20:27] <mikelinux_> ok
[20:27] <mikelinux_> thanks
[20:27] <mikelinux_> xcuse me
[20:27] <jpatrick> no0tic: dude, he's the guy we've been banning!
[20:27] <mikelinux_> yup?
[20:28] <mikelinux_> why are you disturbing me?
[20:28] <no0tic> jpatrick, yes, I recognized him
[20:28] <mikelinux_> yes i am
[20:28] <mikelinux_> the same
[20:28] <mikelinux_> i speak english too
[20:29] <no0tic> mikelinux_, well, my point of view is a bit different
[20:29] <no0tic> mikelinux_, you are disturbing us
[20:29] <mikelinux_> why?
[20:29] <no0tic> mikelinux_, and -es channel (afaik)
[20:29] <mikelinux_> im not in ubuntu-es
[20:30] <jpatrick> but you were
[20:30] <no0tic> you were joining and ban evading in there repeatedly
[20:30] <mikelinux_> as you sait i was
[20:30] <no0tic> ban evading is not a nice practice at all
[20:31] <mikelinux_> ok, excuse me, are you happy now?
[20:31] <no0tic> no, please read some guide lines
[20:31] <no0tic> !etiquette
[20:31] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[20:31] <mikelinux_> im reading the code of conduct
[20:32] <mikelinux_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/esCodeOfConduct
[20:32] <mikelinux_> you should read the code too
[20:33] <no0tic> nice, but it has nothing to do with ban evading
[20:33] <mikelinux_> :-o
[20:33] <mikelinux_> im not triying to enter
[20:34] <jpatrick> mikelinux_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines/Es
[20:34] <mikelinux_> i speak english too so i can ask in #ubuntu toooo
[20:35] <mikelinux_> they are so kind
[20:36] <jpatrick> mikelinux_: "pues leelo tu y dime lo que necesito saber" "no todos aqui somos vagos como para pasarme todo el dia leyendo un tutorial para configurar una aplicacion"
[20:37] <jpatrick> esto es lo malo
[20:37] <mikelinux_> si
[20:37] <mikelinux_> acaso lo haces tu?
[20:37] <mikelinux_> quiza sea tu trabajo pero si tienes un poquito de sentido comun veras que es la verdad
[20:38] <mikelinux_> tengo mucho tiempo usando linux y lo primero que entendi es que para hacer que los demas lo usen no puedo forzarlo a leer montones de documentacion
[20:38] <mikelinux_> no todos tienen el tiempo aunque quisieran
[20:38] <mikelinux_> y no dije que todos fuesen vagos
[20:38] <mikelinux_> sino no todos aqui somos vagos
[20:39] <no0tic> mikelinux_, we are volunteers, it is not our job
[20:39] <mikelinux_> te podria mandar a leer un libro de lengua espanola al igual que mandas a muchos a buscar a google
[20:40] <mikelinux_> para que entiendas el contexto y en que momento se dijo la frase
[20:41] <mikelinux_> el dia que quieras construir tu casa inscribete en la carrera de arquitectura, leete todos los manuales y hazla tu mismo
[20:41] <no0tic> mikelinux_, probably it's better for you to read a good etiquette book and learn how to behave in public
[20:41] <jpatrick> "hay que trabajar tambien  y hacer vida social" - pero tienes tiempo para entrar, y entrar, cuando te hacemos fuera
[20:41] <mikelinux_> te dolio mucho, eres un vago?
[20:42] <mikelinux_> si tu respuesta es no por que me atacas?
[20:42] <nalioth> can we be polite to all and speak english?
[20:42] <mikelinux_> deberias usar esa actitud para defender a tu nacion , the marine is waiting 4 u
[20:42] <mikelinux_> excuse me nalioth
[20:42] <mikelinux_> i will speak in english now
 mikelinux_, probably it's better for you to read a good etiquette book and learn how to behave in public........you too, tnx i will do that.
[20:46] <no0tic> mikelinux_, is there anything I said that hurt you?
[20:47] <mikelinux_> take practice of yoga
[20:47] <mikelinux_> estas muy tenso
[20:47] <LjL> naah solo esta muy tonto
[20:48] <no0tic> LjL, uh? gh
[20:48] <LjL> wrong channel :P
[20:48] <mikelinux_> yup  thx LJL
[20:49] <mikelinux_> tell it to this MR.
[20:51] <mikelinux_> how old re u noOtic, you look so inmature. dont let that the words of an ignorant man (like me)  :-P disturb your mind kid.
[20:54] <nalioth> let us be civil, please
[20:56] <mikelinux_> the fight is over
[20:59] <LjL> and i declare ubotu winner
[21:00] <mikelinux_> the world champion
[21:32] <fetova> greetings
[21:32] <fetova> sorry for come late
[21:42] <fetova> xD
[21:42] <fetova> nop
[21:42] <fetova> i'm not late :P
[21:43] <fetova> i'm two hours early xD
[21:43]  * fetova return on 1:17 hrs
[21:43] <fetova> xD
[22:19] <no0tic> mikelinux_, mikelinux, one of you is just enough here
[22:19] <mikelinux> its only  1
[22:19] <mikelinux> why re u talking to me?
[22:20] <no0tic> mikelinux_, this is you
[22:20] <mikelinux> si te molesto lo mas que puedes hacer es ignorarme
[22:20] <no0tic> mikelinux, and this too
[22:20] <mikelinux> look at the user list
[22:20] <no0tic> mikelinux, I can't ignore anybody
[22:21] <mikelinux> so somebody will kill you in the future
[22:21] <mikelinux> :-p
[22:21] <no0tic> mikelinux, look at your realname and your hostmask
[22:21] <mikelinux> its lag from the server
[22:22] <mikelinux> i lost my connection and reconected
[22:22] <mikelinux> its a phantom
[22:22] <no0tic> mikelinux, collide him
[22:22] <mikelinux> will quit on few minutes mikelinux?
[22:23] <mikelinux> ? was an error typing
[22:26] <nalioth> death threats are not welcome on freenode
[22:26] <nalioth> nor is kline evasion
[23:08] <fetova> hi again :P
[23:09] <fetova> no0tic: ping
[23:09] <no0tic> pong
[23:09] <fetova> :)
[23:09] <fetova> you tell me of be here now...
[23:09] <fetova> true? :P
[23:10] <fetova> no0tic
[23:10] <no0tic> yes
[23:10] <fetova> ok :)
[23:10] <no0tic> but noone else appears to be here..
[23:11] <fetova> je...
[23:11] <fetova> I can be here a half hour waiting if it's neccesary :)
[23:13] <no0tic> I pinged other ops, but nobody ponged :)
[23:13] <fetova> ...
[23:14] <fetova> that it's bad...
[23:14] <fetova> indeed...
[23:14] <fetova> by my idea of #u-es-ot...
[23:15] <no0tic> fetova, #ubuntu-es channel contact isn't online... I can't ping him
[23:15] <fetova> i guess i have to study more time the enviroment to purpose a efficiently idea
[23:15] <fetova> :(
[23:16] <no0tic> me too, I'm op in -es since last week
[23:16] <fetova> yes=
[23:16] <fetova> ?
[23:16] <fetova> wow...
[23:17] <fetova> the request for op I see it's recently...
[23:17] <fetova> why begin the idea?
[23:17] <no0tic> I didn't request to be op :)
[23:17] <fetova> xD
[23:17] <fetova> me too
[23:17] <fetova> jpatrick tells me
[23:17] <fetova> and i say:
[23:18] <fetova> if it's necessary , i help :)
[23:18] <no0tic> :)
[23:18] <fetova> from where are you?
[23:19] <no0tic> well, jpatrick is sleeping now... so.. I think we can postpone our meeting
[23:19] <no0tic> fetova, italy
[23:19]  * erUSUL is here
[23:19] <fetova> wow... I read it's a nice place :)
[23:19] <fetova> hi erUSUL
[23:19] <fetova> :)
[23:19] <erUSUL> hi
[23:20] <no0tic> hi erUSUL
[23:20] <fetova> well...
[23:20] <fetova> ok...
[23:20] <fetova> but...
[23:20] <no0tic> erUSUL, sorry, didn't see you :)
[23:20] <fetova> someone tells me when can all?
[23:21] <fetova> or how can we do it?
[23:21] <erUSUL> ;)
[23:21] <fetova> :P
[23:22] <fetova> on any way... when i be connected to freenode... i'll be here :)
[23:24] <erUSUL> no0tic: so no meeting today...
[23:24] <fetova> that seems to be :(
[23:26] <no0tic> well, we fixed the meeting for 27/01 23 UTC and only few of us showed up...
[23:26] <fetova> are something happen here?
[23:27] <erUSUL> no0tic: yes; very weird i was specting Sapote and Pelicano to show up... but jpatrick complained to pelicano about the hour and maybe pelicano thought the meeting was "cancelled" dunno :|
[23:28] <fetova> well... i don't know the enought to say anything :(
[23:28] <no0tic> erUSUL, sapote is online but he is not replying to my query
[23:28] <no0tic> erUSUL, jpatrick is asleep :)
[23:35] <erUSUL> no0tic: well then; nothing to see here move along... ;P
[23:35] <no0tic> erUSUL, well LjL is still awake
[23:36] <LjL> fetova: what's your -es-ot idea?
[23:37] <fetova> well... i said it berfore...
[23:37] <fetova> isn't very concret now...
[23:38] <fetova> but the goal it's make -es-ot more atractive to the ot
[23:38] <fetova> with that the ot on -es should be strange
[23:38] <fetova> i said the example of -ar
[23:39] <fetova> the users see the needing to make a chanel to ot
[23:39] <fetova> we have to make the needing on -es
[23:39] <fetova> i'm not sure on the way
[23:40] <fetova> i'm thinking on that LjL :)
[23:40] <LjL> it's very simple for me
[23:40] <LjL> !ot
[23:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:40] <LjL> you do this every time a user gets offtopic
[23:41] <LjL> you hammer, and you hammer again
[23:41] <fetova> mmm...
[23:41] <LjL> eventually it gets fixed in the wall
[23:41] <Flannel> Hey guys, where are the logs for the IRC Council meetings?
[23:41] <fetova> i thing something something left
[23:41] <nalioth> Flannel: /msg ubotu logs
[23:42] <Flannel> nalioth: Don't believe in the wiki for logs, eh?
[23:42] <nalioth> Flannel: or see the topic in #ubuntu-meeting
[23:42] <fetova> that and other complementary thing
[23:42] <nalioth> Flannel: the loggins system predates the wiki  ;)
[23:42] <nalioth> logging system bleh
[23:42] <Flannel> nalioth: shrug.  They should still be at least linked on the IRC council wiki page.  But thanks
[23:42] <nalioth> Flannel: the wiki is user editable
[23:42] <Flannel> nalioth: since now I have to go through and crossreference dates with meetings
[23:43] <Flannel> nalioth: Its not my job.  I'm just looking to grump over channel naming conventions
[23:43] <nalioth> Flannel: if you want the logs linked from the wiki, make it so
[23:44] <PriceChild> right now all we do is summaries in team reports
[23:44] <Flannel> nalioth: Like I said, it's not my job to clean your house.
[23:44] <PriceChild> Our house isn't dirty.
[23:45]  * fetova doesn't understand anything... :P
[23:46] <LjL> fetova: hablan del hecho que no tenemos links a los logs de las reuniones del consejo IRC en el wiki
[23:46] <fetova> ahhh
[23:46] <fetova> gracias :D
[23:46] <fetova> pero por que?
[23:46] <fetova> algo entendi de que en el wiki...
[23:46] <Flannel> nalioth: Alright, according to the wiki, there was a meeting on the 17th of September, But that log is empty: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/09/17/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[23:47] <LjL> ¿por que no los tenemos? porque nadie ha pensado a hacer eso creo :)
[23:47] <fetova> xD
[23:47] <fetova> me suena a lo mas probable
[23:48] <LjL> Flannel: i recall that during one meeting, it was full of netsplits and other network problems
[23:48] <LjL> might be that one...
[23:48] <erUSUL> LjL: are the logs supposed to be made _very_ public ?
[23:48] <no0tic> erUSUL, official logs are published online
[23:48] <LjL> erUSUL: i don't know to be honest
[23:48] <no0tic> erUSUL, but honestly I wasn't reading :)
[23:49] <LjL> erUSUL: some teams use the MootBot too to count votes, others' meetings are followed by the scribes team...
[23:49] <LjL> i don't have a clue, really.
[23:49] <Flannel> LjL: Well, do you, or anyone else, have a log of that?  The meeting is where the channel naming guidelines were solidified, and some people are taking exception to that.  So, having a log would be nice.  Since theres no other real documentation besides "because we said so"
[23:49] <nalioth> Flannel: it's not our job to post stuff to the wiki
[23:49] <nalioth> Flannel: if we did that, someone would come along and say "why don't you send the logs out to X mailing list?"
[23:50] <nalioth> Flannel: or "why don't you do X with them?"
[23:50] <LjL> Flannel: yes, if i was there, i should have logs
[23:50] <Flannel> nalioth: Alright.  Whatever.
[23:50] <Flannel> LjL: thanks
[23:53] <LjL> Flannel, what time was it?
[23:54] <Flannel> LjL: 1200 UTC
[23:54] <LjL> i have it
[23:56] <PriceChild> Why's ljl giving logs?
[23:56] <LjL> PriceChild: because the logbot apparently fails to provide them
[23:57] <PriceChild> oh was it mia?
[23:57] <Flannel> PriceChild: or something, yeah.  blank log
[23:57] <LjL> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53813/
[23:58] <Flannel> LjL: thanks