[00:00] <Aquahallic> seems like I remember my other frontend had it as opengl
[00:01] <laga> depends on the VGA card
[00:01] <laga> DRM works just as well i'd say.
[00:01] <Aquahallic> and I have a check in the box to use opengl as the timing method
[00:01] <laga> still can lock to the vertical retrace of your monitor IIRC
[00:01] <Aquahallic> true
[00:01] <laga> Aquahallic: htpt://wiki.mythtv.org has something on that
[00:01] <laga> err, http
[00:01] <Aquahallic> well... I'm just trying to figure out why when I spin my cube around the livetv goes black until I let it go to that window
[00:10] <Aquahallic> hmmm... says something about Force AIGLX setting in compiz... but I can't find where in compiz config...:/
[00:12] <superm1> someone said something about compiz?
[00:12] <superm1> what's happening?
[00:13] <Aquahallic> superm1: heard you're the one to talk to about compiz and mythtv
[00:13] <Aquahallic> :)
[00:13] <superm1> i know too much about too much
[00:13] <Aquahallic> lol
[00:13] <Aquahallic> here's what I have goin' here
[00:14] <superm1> okay to start:
[00:14] <superm1> Xgl?
[00:14] <superm1> if so, lose it
[00:14] <Aquahallic> would that be a setting in xorg.conf?
[00:14] <superm1> no it would be installing xserver-xgl
[00:14] <superm1> if that's installed, that's your issue
[00:15] <superm1> otherwise carry on
[00:15] <Aquahallic> hrm... xserver installed with ubuntu... I didn't configure it
[00:15] <superm1> not xserver
[00:15] <superm1> xserver-xgl
[00:15] <Aquahallic> let me see if that's installed real quick
[00:17] <Aquahallic> noop.. not installed
[00:17] <Aquahallic> ok... so... continuing on
[00:18] <Aquahallic> I have mythtv running full screen on one side of my cube... I saw a post "I think it was yours" about a setting under work arounds and I already had that set.. but I'm seeing panels sometimes
[00:19] <Aquahallic> and... when I'm viewing livetv and I spin my cube... that side is black until I actually release the cube on that side.. and if I go into expo it only show half (diagonal) the picture
[00:20] <superm1> do other Xv apps perform the same way?
[00:20] <superm1> such as vlc
[00:20] <superm1> or xine
[00:20] <superm1> or mplayer
[00:20] <Aquahallic> actually... I dunno
[00:20] <Aquahallic> lemme fire up a video or something and see
[00:38] <Aquahallic> sorry.. someone came to door
[00:38] <Aquahallic> ok... so... I fired up a mpg in totem and then moved my cube... and... it looked like the movie actually stayed in one place.. yet.. the totem window moved away from it
[00:39] <Aquahallic> it's hard to explain
[00:39] <Aquahallic> almost like the movie kinda stayed there.. but the window moved away from it...:/
[00:41] <Aquahallic> that make ANY sense at all???
[00:41] <Aquahallic> LOL
[00:42] <Aquahallic> superm1: you still around?
[00:42] <superm1> ya
[00:42] <superm1> that makes sense
[00:42] <Aquahallic> ah... that make ANY sense?
[00:42] <superm1> and explains why myth isn't working
[00:43] <Aquahallic> k.. so I'm NOT nuts
[00:43] <Aquahallic> LOL
[00:43] <superm1> i'm not sure you can override that behavior any more
[00:43] <Aquahallic> what on earth is that?? any idea?
[00:43] <superm1> yes
[00:43] <superm1> its because the Xv overlay can't take odd shapes
[00:43] <superm1> like what would happen when you move the window around
[00:43] <superm1> its gotta be a rectangle
[00:44] <Aquahallic> well they boast compiz as being able to continue playing in realtime while spinning your cube
[00:44] <Aquahallic> but it's like the movie itself is ripping away from the window it's in
[00:44] <superm1> well if you can solve this issue, you will solve your myth issue too
[00:44] <superm1> it all comes down to that Xv overlay
[00:45] <Aquahallic> ok
[00:45] <superm1> the reason the old videos were able to d oit
[00:45] <superm1> is because they used a software video renderer
[00:45] <superm1> whereas you are using the hardware video renderer
[00:45] <Aquahallic> with ATI?
[00:45] <superm1> which isn't a bad thing, the software one makes compiz run like crap
[00:45] <Aquahallic> and the opensource driver?
[00:45] <superm1> yeah
[00:46] <superm1> you've got a little more direction here to at least google on the issue though
[00:46] <superm1> that's about what i can comment on it
[00:46] <Aquahallic> yup yup!
[00:46] <Aquahallic> least now I know what to look for
[00:46] <Aquahallic> :P
[00:46] <Aquahallic> MUCH appreciated
[00:46] <superm1> no prob, good luck
[00:47] <superm1> and if you sort it out, make a post in the mythbuntu section on the forums
[00:47] <Aquahallic> mythtv and compiz STILL RAWKS even if I can't get this working like I want...:)
[00:47] <superm1> so other people will see it
[00:47] <Aquahallic> sure will
[00:47] <superm1> thanks
[01:05] <bear> hey everyone i need help with repositories
[01:05] <bear> i'm trying to get sdlmame
[01:06] <bear> for gusty 7.10 and they only have a seriously old version of xmame instead
[01:06] <bear> for the mediabuntu reposity listed
[01:55] <met4llica> Anyone available to help me?  im having trouble installing drivers on mythbuntu
[06:24] <Aquahallic> in mythtv themes... I see in the tv_menu xml file it's executing TV_WATCH_LIVE... anyone know where/what this is actually executing
[06:30] <superm1> it doesn't execute a binary directly
[06:30] <superm1> its within libmyth
[06:41] <Aquahallic> well... .I've found something I think on the problem with the video with a cube and this ATI card
[06:44] <Aquahallic> found some info that had me take mplayer, zine and set them to No Xv or xshm and they work fine
[06:44] <Aquahallic> now it's just the native player for livetv in mythtv I need to set I believe
[06:45] <Aquahallic> so I was trying to find the actual executable and see if I can set the argument there
[06:46] <superm1> ugh no xv
[06:46] <superm1> that's an ugly way to do things
[06:46] <superm1> you may lose vertical sync
[06:46] <superm1> but if you really want to do that
[06:46] <superm1> NO_XV=1 mythfrontend
[06:47] <superm1> will launch it without Xv
[06:47] <Aquahallic> from commanline?
[06:48] <superm1> yeah
[06:49] <Aquahallic> ok.. .did that...
[06:49] <Aquahallic> fired up and now it looks great on the panel fullscreen... but it's slow... video lags
[06:50] <superm1> like i said
[06:50] <superm1> goodbye sync :)
[06:50] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[06:53] <Aquahallic> is there a list of flags like NO_XV=1 for mythtv somewhere?
[06:54] <superm1> not that i know of
[06:54] <Aquahallic> :(
[06:54] <superm1> i just messed with that ages ago when i was playing with compiz
[06:54] <superm1> and found that one
[06:54] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[06:55] <Aquahallic> zine uses xshm
[08:10] <ille> what size do I need for / partition. I have a KnoppMyth install with 3.7 GB and planning to migrate to mythbuntu.
[10:10] <MythbuntuGuest39> how do default a dvd drive, have a usb xbox 360 and a internal blu ray sata drive but has configured to the xbox drive?
[11:58] <MythbuntuGuest39> does anybody know if you can get a udf driver for gutsy
[12:25] <zagibu> does anyone know if there is a developer's version of mythbuntu and if it contains an updated xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[12:26] <zagibu> cause the 2.1.1 is bugged
[12:26] <laga> how so?
[12:32] <zagibu> it only detects 4:3 resolutions on my system
[12:32] <laga> ah
[12:32] <zagibu> here is a bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg71560.html
[12:32] <laga> well, there's no development version as such.. i think we've released an alpha recently
[12:32] <zagibu> i, too, have a 1366x768 resolution display, but I can't use this resolution
[12:32] <laga> but there might be an easier way.
[12:33] <zagibu> i'm listening
[12:33] <laga> you can try to get the xserver-xorg-video-intel source package from hardy (http://packages.ubuntu.com) and try to re-build that
[12:33] <laga> if it's a newer version
[12:33] <zagibu> ok, what do I have to write into sources.list?
[12:34] <laga> you, just download them manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:34] <laga> the source package
[12:34] <laga> which will consist of three files
[12:35] <zagibu> ah, ok
[12:35] <laga> then you have to install a few things first: sudo aptitude install build-essential fakeroot
[12:35] <laga> then you can run dpkg-source -x <name-of-that-file-you-downloaded>.dsc
[12:35] <laga> it'll create a new directory.
[12:35] <zagibu> yeah, it's newer
[12:35] <laga> cd to that directory
[12:36] <laga> and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[12:36] <laga> it'll complain because packages are missing. install those. repeat.
[12:36] <laga> once it's done, cd.. and install the deb it created
[12:36] <zagibu> very cool, will try that, thanks a lot
[12:36] <laga> i also suggest you download the gutsy deb (not the source package this time :)) from packages.ubuntu.com so you can roll back easily.
[12:36] <laga> make sore not to break anything :)
[12:38] <zagibu> sure ;)
[12:38] <zagibu> you know, this is the first time someone really suggested something useful...i've been researching about this problem for three months now
[12:39] <zagibu> most suggested 915resolution, which unfortunately doesn't work, because the driver somehow doesn't list all available modes from the card bios
[12:39] <laga> :/
[12:40] <laga> the new intel driver shouldn't have to use 915resolution. IIRC: :)
[12:40] <zagibu> yeah, exactly
[12:40] <laga> does your panel give out correct EDID info?
[12:42] <zagibu> how do I check this?
[12:43] <zagibu> in xorg.log?
[12:43] <laga> no clue :)
[12:43] <zagibu> i don't think so, though, as it's a LCD TV connected via DVI to HDMI
[12:43] <laga> i wonder if a modeline would solve your problem
[12:44] <zagibu> it also has a VGA connection but this doesn't support widescreen, unfortunately
[12:44] <zagibu> yeah, I tried several modelines I found for 1366x768, but none worked
[12:44] <laga> we have an old LCD TV and you can set it to widescreen or non-widescreen
[12:45] <zagibu> mine lists only 4:3 resolutions on the vga port specs
[12:45] <laga> silly :)
[12:45] <zagibu> yeah, I haven't tried to force it...might be the next step if your suggestion doesn't work
[12:48] <thundersaurus> anyone know a good and easy way to watch video podcasts from rss feeds in mythbuntu?
[12:55] <neopsyche> hi, can someone please help me setup
[12:55] <neopsyche> I have installed myth tv.. but am experiencing problems configuring it
[12:58] <neopsyche> anyone?
[13:02] <neopsyche> hello?
[13:02] <neopsyche> hello?
[13:02] <neopsyche> anyone here?
[13:02] <neopsyche> I need help to configure myth
[13:03] <neopsyche> is there anyone here out of the 51 users that is online?
[13:03] <laga> just ask a question and someone will answer if they know the answer
[13:03] <neopsyche> ok
[13:03] <neopsyche> Myth tv comes up when i access it from ubuntu menu.. but then it says database not found .. its a strange blue config thing
[13:03] <neopsyche> what do i do now
[13:04] <neopsyche> I tried a few times to configure the db.. but something to do with permissions maby could someone please talk me through it?
[13:04] <neopsyche> laga: do you know how to install it?
[13:05] <laga> neopsyche: um, i haven't installed a database in a long time. check http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[13:05] <laga> and search for "mythtv" there
[13:07] <zagibu> hmmm, laga, it needs a lot of other hardy packages...i'm wondering if it would be faster to just add the hardy repository to sources.list?
[13:08] <neopsyche> not sure.
[13:08] <neopsyche> im pretty new to ubuntu
[13:08] <zagibu> i'm sorry, this wasn't in context to your question...it's something we discussed earlier
[13:09] <laga> zagibu: you sure those packages are not in ubuntu?
[13:09] <laga> err, gutsy.
[13:09] <zagibu> no, it needs a newer version of xserver-xorg-dev
[13:09] <zagibu> i have the gutsy version, not new enough
[13:09] <zagibu> as to your question, neopsyche, how did you install mythtv?
[13:10] <laga> zagibu: maybe you can just redit the version number in debian/control
[13:10] <laga> zagibu: try it :)
[13:11] <laga> zagibu: if you just add the hardy entries to your sources.list, your whole box might get upgraded to hardy which is probably not what you want
[13:11] <zagibu> hmmm, yeah
[13:11] <zagibu> maybe later ;)
[13:11] <laga> :)
[13:11] <zagibu> the debian/control is the one in the source directory?
[13:12] <laga> zagibu: yes
[13:13] <neopsyche> zagibu: sudo apt-get install myth-tv .. I think.. it was  awhile ago
[13:13] <neopsyche> zagibu: is there anything i can check.?
[13:13] <neopsyche> zagibu: to see if its running properly?
[13:13] <neopsyche> zagibu: Theres myth icons in the ubuntu toolbar
[13:14] <zagibu> hmmm, can't help you then, I've always used the prepared mythbuntu distribution and haven't even gotten to run this one properly yet
[13:14] <laga> neopsyche: that's not enough.
[13:14] <laga> neopsyche: please read the wiki
[13:14] <zagibu> but you should read up all you can on the link that laga provided
[13:15] <neopsyche> how can i check if my hw tuner is compatible?
[13:15] <laga> by reading the wiki
[13:15] <neopsyche> my hardware tuner works with tvtime and xawtv
[13:15] <laga> ;)
[13:15] <laga> then it should work with mythtv
[13:15] <neopsyche> where is this wiki to read?
[13:15] <neopsyche> i am on help.ubuntu.com
[13:15] <neopsyche> ;-)
[13:15] <neopsyche> ok
[13:15] <zagibu> there is no mention of the xserver-xorg-dev package in debian/control, laga
[13:16] <laga> control
[13:16] <laga>        oops.
[13:16] <laga> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), quilt, pkg-config, xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.3.0.0)
[13:16] <laga> that's in the gutsy package at least.
[13:16] <laga> like the 5th line
[13:16] <neopsyche> do i need to install frontend and backend to record tv shows from tv card?
[13:18] <zagibu> if you want the interface to control it, you need both
[13:18] <neopsyche> ok
[13:18] <neopsyche> thanks
[13:18] <zagibu> otherwise you probably could control the recordings using the webinterface...but to watch them, you also need the frontend, i suppose
[13:19] <zagibu> and laga, you are right, i'm blind (and should use grep to verify, sorry)
[13:20] <laga> zagibu: ;)
[13:22] <zagibu> ok, it's compiling now
[13:22] <zagibu> reminds me of gentoo-times
[13:22] <laga> ARCH="~x86" emerge xserver-xorg.. ;)
[13:23] <neopsyche> if i install mythbuntu .. does that mean its going to change all my desktop settings?
[13:23] <neopsyche> im currently running ubuntu-studio???
[13:23] <laga> neopsyche: no
[13:24] <neopsyche> from the website its saying - do you want to install the mythbuntu-desktop ???
[13:24] <laga> can anyone recommend a remote which can learn new IR codes, can do macros and is usable with mythtv? and costs less than a small fortune? :)
[13:24] <neopsyche> laga: wont that change my desktop?
[13:25] <zagibu> mythbuntu is a distribution, i think it will change it
[13:25] <laga> neopsyche: mythbuntu-desktop is a meta package. it#ll install new software. wether you want to use that or not is your choice.
[13:25] <laga> unless you're using xfce i think
[13:25] <zagibu> unless you can somehow migrate to it without doing a reinstall
[13:25] <laga> it's possible that it'll set your default session to mythbuntu-desktop, but you can easily change that in the login manager
[13:26] <zagibu> wow, it seems it's more complicated than I can grasp...i'll just shut up :)
[13:26] <laga> no
[13:26] <laga> it's easier, actually
[13:26] <laga> it just installs a bunch of new software and some special config
[13:26] <laga> it *should* not disrupt your existing session.
[13:27] <neopsyche> now it says its adding something called universe-dialogue?
[13:27] <laga> you can even install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc in mythbuntu-control-centre.
[13:27] <laga> not sure about ubuntu studio, though :)
[13:27] <neopsyche> is mythbuntu an authorised mod?
[13:27] <neopsyche> in other words.. supported by canonical?
[13:28] <laga> i think we're recognized, but not officially supported due to licence problems with mythtv and some dependencies.
[13:29] <laga> "supported by canonical" is somewhat misleading. i doubt that you can buy support contracts for ubuntu studio from canonical :)
[13:34] <zagibu> ok, laga, the built deb installed, now trying to reconfigure the x-server...cross your fingers ;)
[13:34] <neopsyche> so.. mythbuntu will allow me to set timing recording of tv programs?
[13:35] <zagibu> i don't know if it allows manually timing show, but in combination with an EPG, it allows it, yes
[13:36] <zagibu> and getting an EPG to work is a completely different story (and can be quite hard, depeding on your location)
[14:27] <zagibu> laga: the new driver works, but doesn't change the situation at all
[14:27] <laga> :/#
[14:28] <zagibu> the only resolutions i can set for the desktop are 480p (720x480) and 1080i (1950x540)
[14:28] <zagibu> i guess it's the TV
[14:28] <zagibu> i just don't understand the whole thing with HDMI and videosignals in general
[14:29] <laga> i'm sure you can override it with a modeline
[14:29] <zagibu> I mean, why is it so hard when any off-the-shelf DVD-Player can output the right signal
[14:30] <zagibu> all i want is to use the whole screen estate, like my 50$ DVD-Player does
[14:30] <laga> :)
[14:30] <laga> no clue
[14:30] <laga>  Option "ModeDebug" "boolean"
[14:30] <laga>               Enable printing of additional debugging information about modesetting to the server log.
[14:30] <laga> see man xorg.conf / man intel
[14:32] <MythbuntuGuest48> how do get the tv guide to work
[14:37] <zagibu> good question, dude...i think that's the main piece of work you have to do to get MythTV running
[14:37] <MythbuntuGuest48> tuner is setup and working but unable to recieve channel listings
[14:37] <zagibu> i'm not even there yet, though, so I can't really help ya
[14:38] <portahex> it depends on where you live and your tuner type
[14:38] <MythbuntuGuest48> is taken me ages to setup
[14:39] <MythbuntuGuest48> hauppauge wintv 500 dt and ive in uk
[14:39] <MythbuntuGuest48> live
[14:40] <portahex> pvr 500, or nova-t 500?
[14:40] <MythbuntuGuest48> nova t
[14:41] <portahex> read http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10005&page=7
[14:42] <MythbuntuGuest48> have got the card recieving channels
[14:47] <MythbuntuGuest48> going to give this a go later
[14:48] <MythbuntuGuest48> thanks for this
[14:51] <fast_edi> while using mythfilldatabase it says connection timed out and ...set the proper ip-address
[14:51] <fast_edi> but i use localhost in setup as advised
[14:52] <fast_edi> eth0 is set to a private ip. does this matter?
[14:52] <MythbuntuGuest48> ok im lost already with this
[14:52] <MythbuntuGuest48> im using wireless connection
[14:53] <MythbuntuGuest48> back end set default i address
[14:53] <MythbuntuGuest48> 127.00 so on
[15:24] <MythbuntuGuest48> as my setup got two tuners how is possible to set one for live tv and the other to record
[15:25] <portahex> why would you compartmentalise it like that? why not use both for whatever they're needed for?
[15:27] <MythbuntuGuest48> well have tryed to record and watch another channel together but no joy
[15:40] <laga> keescook: is there an ETA on the unionfs fixes?
[15:42] <MythbuntuGuest48> got it working , found another web page on to configure
[15:43] <MythbuntuGuest48> it all trial and errors at the moment getting there slowly
[15:44] <MythbuntuGuest48> took me three trys to get the tunners to work
[15:47] <MythbuntuGuest48> know ive got to get the hauppauge remote to work properly it little bit sensitive
[15:48] <zagibu> just buy a windows media center remote, it's really easy to setup in mythtv and it works from a great distance
[15:54] <MythbuntuGuest48> will the hauppage ir pickup a windows media remote as i got one of these when a xbox 360 hd dvddrive
[16:06] <zagibu> i don't think so...
[16:07] <zagibu> it's more the reciever that counts, i feel
[16:07] <zagibu> i'm not an IR expert though, and in theory, it should work even
[16:08] <zagibu> but yeah, in theory, my video card should also be able to send a 720p signal to my monitor, which it isn't in practice
[16:09] <zagibu> if laga is still reading, i've found some lines in my Xorg.0.log that say my TV is reporting via EDID only the two resolutions I can set in XFCE
[16:09] <zagibu> so this might be where the problem lies
[16:10] <zagibu> i have no clue on how to make it ignore this EDID stuff, thoguh
[16:10] <zagibu> the guys in intel-gfx are not very responsive, unfortunately
[16:20] <laga> no worries, i'm sure it can be done somehow :)
[16:21] <zagibu> or is it maybe an xorg option i have to set?
[16:26] <laga> probably, yes
[16:27] <zagibu> i've found one: "Ignore EDID" "1" ...gonna try it now
[16:27] <Aquahallic> Section “Device”
[16:27] <Aquahallic> Identifier “your graphics card model”
[16:27] <Aquahallic> Driver “your graphics card driver”
[16:27] <Aquahallic> BusID “PCI:1:0:0″
[16:27] <Aquahallic> Option “IgnoreEDID” “true” < < put this line if this is missing
[16:27] <Aquahallic> EndSection
[16:27] <Aquahallic> :)
[16:28] <Aquahallic> Google is your friend....:)
[16:29] <zagibu> i've found it in section monitor, actually
[16:29] <zagibu> which makes more sense, since my driver (intel) has no ignore EDID option
[16:29] <Aquahallic> well... if that one doesn't work... give that one a whirl
[16:29] <zagibu> sure, thanks
[16:30] <Aquahallic> http://baudizm.blogsome.com/2005/09/27/ignoring-edid-to-impose-higher-resolution/
[16:30] <Aquahallic> there's the actual link... it also has you put the actual resolution you want to use under the monitor section
[16:40] <zagibu> trying now...other stuff didn't work
[16:46] <zagibu> no luck, it's still using EDID
[16:46] <Aquahallic> can you throw your xorg.conf into a pastebin so I might take a peek?
[16:51] <zagibu> sure
[16:52] <Aquahallic> and what's your exact model of intel card?
[16:54] <zagibu> 945GM
[16:54] <laga> did you set a modeline?
[16:54] <zagibu> http://pastebin.ca/875079
[16:55] <zagibu> http://pastebin.ca/875081
[16:56] <zagibu> toilet time
[17:07] <Aquahallic> dunno.. I don't really see anything funky in your xorg.conf.... there's GOT to be a way to turn it off though...:/
[17:14] <Aquahallic> I did read this though......
[17:14] <Aquahallic> Option "Ignore"  "bool"
[17:14] <Aquahallic>               This optional entry specifies that the monitor should be ignored
[17:14] <Aquahallic>               entirely, and not reported through RandR.  This is useful if the
[17:14] <Aquahallic>               hardware  reports  the  presence  of  outputs  that don't exist.
[17:14] <Aquahallic>               (RandR 1.2-supporting drivers only)
[17:14] <Aquahallic> think it's under the monitor section
[17:14] <Aquahallic> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-July/026572.html
[17:14] <Aquahallic> that's where I was reading it....
[17:22] <laga> don't think that "Ignore" is the right thing
[17:23] <Aquahallic> maybe not... just reading on his chipset.. thought I'd post it and maybe it'll lead him in the right direction...:)
[17:24] <zagibu> my last option is to use a tool to change the edid of the LCD, but i'm a bit worried about destruction here
[17:24] <laga> zagibu: have you tried specifying a modeline while setting ignoreedid?
[17:24] <zagibu> yeah
[17:25] <zagibu> i can try again IgnoreEDID true in the monitor section
[17:25] <zagibu> had ignore EDID 1 there
[17:25] <laga> tried the debugging output?
[17:25] <laga> you need IgnoreEDID true.
[17:25] <laga> not anything that comes close ;)
[17:25] <laga> s/anything/something/
[17:26] <Aquahallic> close only works in horseshoes and hand grenades....:P
[17:27] <zagibu> hehe
[17:27] <zagibu> i had the other thing off another page
[17:28] <zagibu> it doesn't work with the new syntax in the monitor section, either
[17:29] <zagibu> i think a problem might be my DVI->HDMI connection
[17:29] <zagibu> maybe the LCD only accepts video timings over this connection
[17:29] <zagibu> but it's still strange that it doesn't list 720p in EDID
[17:29] <zagibu> cause the manual clearly states it's 720p compatible
[17:31] <Aquahallic> have you googled your model of monitor and EDID and Xorg
[17:36] <zagibu> yeah, it only yields crap results and some swedish forum posts which i don't understand the first word of
[17:36] <Aquahallic> what model is your monitor?
[17:36] <zagibu> the TV is unfortunately a pretty rare and basic consumer model, not really an enthusiasts choice
[17:37] <zagibu> Sony KDL-40U2000
[17:39] <zagibu> i think i'm going to try it via the vga input again
[18:00] <MythbuntuGuest48> hauppauge remotes what can be done about using all button only limited to a few controls
[18:05] <MythbuntuGuest48> is there a replacement for mythbuntu like there is for ms media center
[18:05] <MythbuntuGuest48> configuration file
[18:16] <MythbuntuGuest48> how do go about making a new lirc configuration file a haupauge remote
[18:18] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest48: o/
[18:18] <Daviey> What model hauppauge?
[18:19] <MythbuntuGuest48> wintv nova 500 dt
[18:19] <MythbuntuGuest48> remome is a 45 button
[18:20] <Daviey> oh
[18:20] <MythbuntuGuest48> ;-(
[18:20] <Daviey> and i guess the settings mythbunbtu-control-centre produces isn't working
[18:21] <Daviey> Fancy doing some compiling? :)
[18:22] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest48: i have to go real soon, so you have to respond faster :)
[18:22] <MythbuntuGuest48> iv got most of it setup its the remote im having problems with the tuner working ok
[18:22] <MythbuntuGuest48> tunner ok
[18:23] <MythbuntuGuest48> remote has limited fuction
[18:23] <Daviey> yea, with the latest 500's you need to compile v4l-dvb
[18:23] <Daviey> from source :(
[18:23] <Daviey> oww
[18:23] <Daviey> Remote is working somewhat?
[18:23] <tgm4883_laptop> Daviey, who has access to the rsync server?
[18:23] <MythbuntuGuest48> did that last night
[18:23] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop:
[18:23] <Daviey> <--------------- does
[18:23] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone else?
[18:23] <Daviey> erm, bendailey
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[18:24] <Daviey> superm1 still has access but can't remember his password AFAIK
[18:24] <Daviey> tgm4883_laptop: why do you ask?
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, he can't remember any of it, ports etc
[18:24] <Daviey> he's a plank :)
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> well superm1 wanted to push the alpha builds to that server
[18:24] <Daviey> i can do that
[18:24] <tgm4883_laptop> well you weren't around
[18:25] <Daviey> so what happend?
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> i see your hiding out in here, and not the -dev channel ;)
[18:25] <Daviey> erm
[18:25] <Daviey> am i not in -dev?
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> eh, nothing, never got pushed
[18:25] <MythbuntuGuest48> a
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[18:26] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest48: you should be able to use myth control centre from here
[18:26] <Daviey> I thought you had no functionality, some just means lirc isn't conf'd properly
[18:39] <frink__> Daviey: !!
[18:52] <Daviey> frink__: wassup :)
[19:01] <met4llica> anyone awake?
[19:08] <frink__> Daviey: not much.. heh. Is the box OK now? I found out what happened.
[19:09] <frink__> The firewall had a session overload issue (netscreen bug) - fixed now.
[19:26] <Daviey> frink__: sounds nasty.. thanks for getting it back
[19:27] <Daviey> seems ok now tho, thanks
[19:28] <frink__> good
[19:28] <frink__> wasnt too nasty
[19:29] <frink__> the bug was with the Screen OS - it held SNMP sessions open. We had a faulty detector on the site that keps sending SNMP traps to the management things
[19:29] <frink__> which gradually built up sessions on the firewall
[19:29] <frink__> but ICMP seemed OK. I culd ping it, but that was all.
[19:29] <frink__> maybe it does not keep state for ICMP.
[19:36] <frink__> Anywya, sorry about that!
[19:43] <met4llica> anyone else have trouble building v4l-dvb on mythbuntu?
[20:21] <boggystudios> If I have a bunch of media already on my system then how do I get that incorporated into mythtv ?
[21:25] <hugolp> hi, Ive re-installed the backend and the mysql password is new. Now one of the front-ends refuses to start. Where I should change the password?
[21:25] <hugolp> I remember there was some dpkg command but I cant remember exactly
[21:33] <jduggan> normally in ~/.mysql/mysql.txt
[21:33] <jduggan> er
[21:34] <jduggan> normally in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[21:34] <jduggan> :)
[21:40] <compy> if anyone rips dvds what do you encode it to... or whats the best option, VOB, ISO, Divx, etc?
[21:44] <tgm4883_laptop> compy, i prefer ISO, but only because i backup the whole dvd
[21:46] <compy> tgm4883, cool
[21:53] <directhex> i rip to h264
[21:54] <laga> jduggan: not quite true. it's recommend you set the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt (using sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common or in mythbuntu-control-centre)
[21:58] <jduggan> oh really?
[21:58] <jduggan> i only use mythbuntu for a backend, oops
[21:59] <jduggan> :)
[21:59] <laga> :)
[21:59] <laga> starting with hardy, ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt will be a symlink to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[21:59] <laga> because just too much stuff can break if they diverge
[22:02] <hugolp> thanks jduggan
[23:53] <mrbean> Hi folks.. I upgraded my myth box and now the video on most channels is very unstable.
[23:54] <mrbean> Video shakes and you'll see pink and green
[23:55] <mrbean> Im wondering if anyone else has run into this.  The same hardware worked fine with kernel 2.6.17.14
[23:59] <laga> does it work with tvtime?
[23:59] <laga> or xawtv or any other app?