[00:00] seems like I remember my other frontend had it as opengl [00:01] depends on the VGA card [00:01] DRM works just as well i'd say. [00:01] and I have a check in the box to use opengl as the timing method [00:01] still can lock to the vertical retrace of your monitor IIRC [00:01] true [00:01] Aquahallic: htpt://wiki.mythtv.org has something on that [00:01] err, http [00:01] well... I'm just trying to figure out why when I spin my cube around the livetv goes black until I let it go to that window [00:10] hmmm... says something about Force AIGLX setting in compiz... but I can't find where in compiz config...:/ [00:12] someone said something about compiz? [00:12] what's happening? [00:13] superm1: heard you're the one to talk to about compiz and mythtv [00:13] :) [00:13] i know too much about too much [00:13] lol [00:13] here's what I have goin' here [00:14] okay to start: [00:14] Xgl? [00:14] if so, lose it [00:14] would that be a setting in xorg.conf? [00:14] no it would be installing xserver-xgl [00:14] if that's installed, that's your issue [00:15] otherwise carry on [00:15] hrm... xserver installed with ubuntu... I didn't configure it [00:15] not xserver [00:15] xserver-xgl [00:15] let me see if that's installed real quick [00:17] noop.. not installed [00:17] ok... so... continuing on [00:18] I have mythtv running full screen on one side of my cube... I saw a post "I think it was yours" about a setting under work arounds and I already had that set.. but I'm seeing panels sometimes [00:19] and... when I'm viewing livetv and I spin my cube... that side is black until I actually release the cube on that side.. and if I go into expo it only show half (diagonal) the picture [00:20] do other Xv apps perform the same way? [00:20] such as vlc [00:20] or xine [00:20] or mplayer [00:20] actually... I dunno [00:20] lemme fire up a video or something and see [00:38] sorry.. someone came to door [00:38] ok... so... I fired up a mpg in totem and then moved my cube... and... it looked like the movie actually stayed in one place.. yet.. the totem window moved away from it [00:39] it's hard to explain [00:39] almost like the movie kinda stayed there.. but the window moved away from it...:/ [00:41] that make ANY sense at all??? [00:41] LOL [00:42] superm1: you still around? [00:42] ya [00:42] that makes sense [00:42] ah... that make ANY sense? [00:42] and explains why myth isn't working [00:43] k.. so I'm NOT nuts [00:43] LOL [00:43] i'm not sure you can override that behavior any more [00:43] what on earth is that?? any idea? [00:43] yes [00:43] its because the Xv overlay can't take odd shapes [00:43] like what would happen when you move the window around [00:43] its gotta be a rectangle [00:44] well they boast compiz as being able to continue playing in realtime while spinning your cube [00:44] but it's like the movie itself is ripping away from the window it's in [00:44] well if you can solve this issue, you will solve your myth issue too [00:44] it all comes down to that Xv overlay [00:45] ok [00:45] the reason the old videos were able to d oit [00:45] is because they used a software video renderer [00:45] whereas you are using the hardware video renderer [00:45] with ATI? [00:45] which isn't a bad thing, the software one makes compiz run like crap [00:45] and the opensource driver? [00:45] yeah [00:46] you've got a little more direction here to at least google on the issue though [00:46] that's about what i can comment on it [00:46] yup yup! [00:46] least now I know what to look for [00:46] :P [00:46] MUCH appreciated [00:46] no prob, good luck [00:47] and if you sort it out, make a post in the mythbuntu section on the forums [00:47] mythtv and compiz STILL RAWKS even if I can't get this working like I want...:) [00:47] so other people will see it [00:47] sure will [00:47] thanks [01:05] hey everyone i need help with repositories [01:05] i'm trying to get sdlmame [01:06] for gusty 7.10 and they only have a seriously old version of xmame instead [01:06] for the mediabuntu reposity listed [01:55] Anyone available to help me? im having trouble installing drivers on mythbuntu [06:24] in mythtv themes... I see in the tv_menu xml file it's executing TV_WATCH_LIVE... anyone know where/what this is actually executing [06:30] it doesn't execute a binary directly [06:30] its within libmyth [06:41] well... .I've found something I think on the problem with the video with a cube and this ATI card [06:44] found some info that had me take mplayer, zine and set them to No Xv or xshm and they work fine [06:44] now it's just the native player for livetv in mythtv I need to set I believe [06:45] so I was trying to find the actual executable and see if I can set the argument there [06:46] ugh no xv [06:46] that's an ugly way to do things [06:46] you may lose vertical sync [06:46] but if you really want to do that [06:46] NO_XV=1 mythfrontend [06:47] will launch it without Xv [06:47] from commanline? [06:48] yeah [06:49] ok.. .did that... [06:49] fired up and now it looks great on the panel fullscreen... but it's slow... video lags [06:50] like i said [06:50] goodbye sync :) [06:50] hmmm [06:53] is there a list of flags like NO_XV=1 for mythtv somewhere? [06:54] not that i know of [06:54] :( [06:54] i just messed with that ages ago when i was playing with compiz [06:54] and found that one [06:54] hmmm [06:55] zine uses xshm [08:10] what size do I need for / partition. I have a KnoppMyth install with 3.7 GB and planning to migrate to mythbuntu. [10:10] how do default a dvd drive, have a usb xbox 360 and a internal blu ray sata drive but has configured to the xbox drive? [11:58] does anybody know if you can get a udf driver for gutsy [12:25] does anyone know if there is a developer's version of mythbuntu and if it contains an updated xserver-xorg-video-intel? [12:26] cause the 2.1.1 is bugged [12:26] how so? [12:32] it only detects 4:3 resolutions on my system [12:32] ah [12:32] here is a bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg71560.html [12:32] well, there's no development version as such.. i think we've released an alpha recently [12:32] i, too, have a 1366x768 resolution display, but I can't use this resolution [12:32] but there might be an easier way. [12:33] i'm listening [12:33] you can try to get the xserver-xorg-video-intel source package from hardy (http://packages.ubuntu.com) and try to re-build that [12:33] if it's a newer version [12:33] ok, what do I have to write into sources.list? [12:34] you, just download them manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com [12:34] the source package [12:34] which will consist of three files [12:35] ah, ok [12:35] then you have to install a few things first: sudo aptitude install build-essential fakeroot [12:35] then you can run dpkg-source -x .dsc [12:35] it'll create a new directory. [12:35] yeah, it's newer [12:35] cd to that directory [12:36] and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [12:36] it'll complain because packages are missing. install those. repeat. [12:36] once it's done, cd.. and install the deb it created [12:36] very cool, will try that, thanks a lot [12:36] i also suggest you download the gutsy deb (not the source package this time :)) from packages.ubuntu.com so you can roll back easily. [12:36] make sore not to break anything :) [12:38] sure ;) [12:38] you know, this is the first time someone really suggested something useful...i've been researching about this problem for three months now [12:39] most suggested 915resolution, which unfortunately doesn't work, because the driver somehow doesn't list all available modes from the card bios [12:39] :/ [12:40] the new intel driver shouldn't have to use 915resolution. IIRC: :) [12:40] yeah, exactly [12:40] does your panel give out correct EDID info? [12:42] how do I check this? [12:43] in xorg.log? [12:43] no clue :) [12:43] i don't think so, though, as it's a LCD TV connected via DVI to HDMI [12:43] i wonder if a modeline would solve your problem [12:44] it also has a VGA connection but this doesn't support widescreen, unfortunately [12:44] yeah, I tried several modelines I found for 1366x768, but none worked [12:44] we have an old LCD TV and you can set it to widescreen or non-widescreen [12:45] mine lists only 4:3 resolutions on the vga port specs [12:45] silly :) [12:45] yeah, I haven't tried to force it...might be the next step if your suggestion doesn't work === MythbuntuGuest16 is now known as thundersaurus [12:48] anyone know a good and easy way to watch video podcasts from rss feeds in mythbuntu? [12:55] hi, can someone please help me setup [12:55] I have installed myth tv.. but am experiencing problems configuring it [12:58] anyone? [13:02] hello? [13:02] hello? [13:02] anyone here? [13:02] I need help to configure myth [13:03] is there anyone here out of the 51 users that is online? [13:03] just ask a question and someone will answer if they know the answer [13:03] ok [13:03] Myth tv comes up when i access it from ubuntu menu.. but then it says database not found .. its a strange blue config thing [13:03] what do i do now [13:04] I tried a few times to configure the db.. but something to do with permissions maby could someone please talk me through it? [13:04] laga: do you know how to install it? [13:05] neopsyche: um, i haven't installed a database in a long time. check http://wiki.ubuntu.com [13:05] and search for "mythtv" there [13:07] hmmm, laga, it needs a lot of other hardy packages...i'm wondering if it would be faster to just add the hardy repository to sources.list? [13:08] not sure. [13:08] im pretty new to ubuntu [13:08] i'm sorry, this wasn't in context to your question...it's something we discussed earlier [13:09] zagibu: you sure those packages are not in ubuntu? [13:09] err, gutsy. [13:09] no, it needs a newer version of xserver-xorg-dev [13:09] i have the gutsy version, not new enough [13:09] as to your question, neopsyche, how did you install mythtv? [13:10] zagibu: maybe you can just redit the version number in debian/control [13:10] zagibu: try it :) [13:11] zagibu: if you just add the hardy entries to your sources.list, your whole box might get upgraded to hardy which is probably not what you want [13:11] hmmm, yeah [13:11] maybe later ;) [13:11] :) [13:11] the debian/control is the one in the source directory? [13:12] zagibu: yes [13:13] zagibu: sudo apt-get install myth-tv .. I think.. it was awhile ago [13:13] zagibu: is there anything i can check.? [13:13] zagibu: to see if its running properly? [13:13] zagibu: Theres myth icons in the ubuntu toolbar [13:14] hmmm, can't help you then, I've always used the prepared mythbuntu distribution and haven't even gotten to run this one properly yet [13:14] neopsyche: that's not enough. [13:14] neopsyche: please read the wiki [13:14] but you should read up all you can on the link that laga provided [13:15] how can i check if my hw tuner is compatible? [13:15] by reading the wiki [13:15] my hardware tuner works with tvtime and xawtv [13:15] ;) [13:15] then it should work with mythtv [13:15] where is this wiki to read? [13:15] i am on help.ubuntu.com [13:15] ;-) [13:15] ok [13:15] there is no mention of the xserver-xorg-dev package in debian/control, laga [13:16] control [13:16] oops. [13:16] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), quilt, pkg-config, xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.3.0.0) [13:16] that's in the gutsy package at least. [13:16] like the 5th line [13:16] do i need to install frontend and backend to record tv shows from tv card? [13:18] if you want the interface to control it, you need both [13:18] ok [13:18] thanks [13:18] otherwise you probably could control the recordings using the webinterface...but to watch them, you also need the frontend, i suppose [13:19] and laga, you are right, i'm blind (and should use grep to verify, sorry) [13:20] zagibu: ;) [13:22] ok, it's compiling now [13:22] reminds me of gentoo-times [13:22] ARCH="~x86" emerge xserver-xorg.. ;) [13:23] if i install mythbuntu .. does that mean its going to change all my desktop settings? [13:23] im currently running ubuntu-studio??? [13:23] neopsyche: no [13:24] from the website its saying - do you want to install the mythbuntu-desktop ??? [13:24] can anyone recommend a remote which can learn new IR codes, can do macros and is usable with mythtv? and costs less than a small fortune? :) [13:24] laga: wont that change my desktop? [13:25] mythbuntu is a distribution, i think it will change it [13:25] neopsyche: mythbuntu-desktop is a meta package. it#ll install new software. wether you want to use that or not is your choice. [13:25] unless you're using xfce i think [13:25] unless you can somehow migrate to it without doing a reinstall [13:25] it's possible that it'll set your default session to mythbuntu-desktop, but you can easily change that in the login manager [13:26] wow, it seems it's more complicated than I can grasp...i'll just shut up :) [13:26] no [13:26] it's easier, actually [13:26] it just installs a bunch of new software and some special config [13:26] it *should* not disrupt your existing session. [13:27] now it says its adding something called universe-dialogue? [13:27] you can even install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc in mythbuntu-control-centre. [13:27] not sure about ubuntu studio, though :) [13:27] is mythbuntu an authorised mod? [13:27] in other words.. supported by canonical? [13:28] i think we're recognized, but not officially supported due to licence problems with mythtv and some dependencies. [13:29] "supported by canonical" is somewhat misleading. i doubt that you can buy support contracts for ubuntu studio from canonical :) [13:34] ok, laga, the built deb installed, now trying to reconfigure the x-server...cross your fingers ;) [13:34] so.. mythbuntu will allow me to set timing recording of tv programs? [13:35] i don't know if it allows manually timing show, but in combination with an EPG, it allows it, yes [13:36] and getting an EPG to work is a completely different story (and can be quite hard, depeding on your location) [14:27] laga: the new driver works, but doesn't change the situation at all [14:27] :/# [14:28] the only resolutions i can set for the desktop are 480p (720x480) and 1080i (1950x540) [14:28] i guess it's the TV [14:28] i just don't understand the whole thing with HDMI and videosignals in general [14:29] i'm sure you can override it with a modeline [14:29] I mean, why is it so hard when any off-the-shelf DVD-Player can output the right signal [14:30] all i want is to use the whole screen estate, like my 50$ DVD-Player does [14:30] :) [14:30] no clue [14:30] Option "ModeDebug" "boolean" [14:30] Enable printing of additional debugging information about modesetting to the server log. [14:30] see man xorg.conf / man intel [14:32] how do get the tv guide to work [14:37] good question, dude...i think that's the main piece of work you have to do to get MythTV running [14:37] tuner is setup and working but unable to recieve channel listings [14:37] i'm not even there yet, though, so I can't really help ya [14:38] it depends on where you live and your tuner type [14:38] is taken me ages to setup [14:39] hauppauge wintv 500 dt and ive in uk [14:39] live [14:40] pvr 500, or nova-t 500? [14:40] nova t [14:41] read http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=10005&page=7 [14:42] have got the card recieving channels [14:47] going to give this a go later [14:48] thanks for this [14:51] while using mythfilldatabase it says connection timed out and ...set the proper ip-address [14:51] but i use localhost in setup as advised [14:52] eth0 is set to a private ip. does this matter? [14:52] ok im lost already with this [14:52] im using wireless connection [14:53] back end set default i address [14:53] 127.00 so on [15:24] as my setup got two tuners how is possible to set one for live tv and the other to record [15:25] why would you compartmentalise it like that? why not use both for whatever they're needed for? [15:27] well have tryed to record and watch another channel together but no joy [15:40] keescook: is there an ETA on the unionfs fixes? [15:42] got it working , found another web page on to configure [15:43] it all trial and errors at the moment getting there slowly [15:44] took me three trys to get the tunners to work [15:47] know ive got to get the hauppauge remote to work properly it little bit sensitive [15:48] just buy a windows media center remote, it's really easy to setup in mythtv and it works from a great distance [15:54] will the hauppage ir pickup a windows media remote as i got one of these when a xbox 360 hd dvddrive [16:06] i don't think so... [16:07] it's more the reciever that counts, i feel [16:07] i'm not an IR expert though, and in theory, it should work even [16:08] but yeah, in theory, my video card should also be able to send a 720p signal to my monitor, which it isn't in practice [16:09] if laga is still reading, i've found some lines in my Xorg.0.log that say my TV is reporting via EDID only the two resolutions I can set in XFCE [16:09] so this might be where the problem lies [16:10] i have no clue on how to make it ignore this EDID stuff, thoguh [16:10] the guys in intel-gfx are not very responsive, unfortunately [16:20] no worries, i'm sure it can be done somehow :) [16:21] or is it maybe an xorg option i have to set? [16:26] probably, yes [16:27] i've found one: "Ignore EDID" "1" ...gonna try it now [16:27] Section “Device” [16:27] Identifier “your graphics card model” [16:27] Driver “your graphics card driver” [16:27] BusID “PCI:1:0:0″ [16:27] Option “IgnoreEDID” “true” < < put this line if this is missing [16:27] EndSection [16:27] :) [16:28] Google is your friend....:) [16:29] i've found it in section monitor, actually [16:29] which makes more sense, since my driver (intel) has no ignore EDID option [16:29] well... if that one doesn't work... give that one a whirl [16:29] sure, thanks [16:30] http://baudizm.blogsome.com/2005/09/27/ignoring-edid-to-impose-higher-resolution/ [16:30] there's the actual link... it also has you put the actual resolution you want to use under the monitor section [16:40] trying now...other stuff didn't work [16:46] no luck, it's still using EDID [16:46] can you throw your xorg.conf into a pastebin so I might take a peek? [16:51] sure [16:52] and what's your exact model of intel card? [16:54] 945GM [16:54] did you set a modeline? [16:54] http://pastebin.ca/875079 [16:55] http://pastebin.ca/875081 [16:56] toilet time [17:07] dunno.. I don't really see anything funky in your xorg.conf.... there's GOT to be a way to turn it off though...:/ [17:14] I did read this though...... [17:14] Option "Ignore" "bool" [17:14] This optional entry specifies that the monitor should be ignored [17:14] entirely, and not reported through RandR. This is useful if the [17:14] hardware reports the presence of outputs that don't exist. [17:14] (RandR 1.2-supporting drivers only) [17:14] think it's under the monitor section [17:14] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-July/026572.html [17:14] that's where I was reading it.... [17:22] don't think that "Ignore" is the right thing [17:23] maybe not... just reading on his chipset.. thought I'd post it and maybe it'll lead him in the right direction...:) [17:24] my last option is to use a tool to change the edid of the LCD, but i'm a bit worried about destruction here [17:24] zagibu: have you tried specifying a modeline while setting ignoreedid? [17:24] yeah [17:25] i can try again IgnoreEDID true in the monitor section [17:25] had ignore EDID 1 there [17:25] tried the debugging output? [17:25] you need IgnoreEDID true. [17:25] not anything that comes close ;) [17:25] s/anything/something/ [17:26] close only works in horseshoes and hand grenades....:P [17:27] hehe [17:27] i had the other thing off another page [17:28] it doesn't work with the new syntax in the monitor section, either [17:29] i think a problem might be my DVI->HDMI connection [17:29] maybe the LCD only accepts video timings over this connection [17:29] but it's still strange that it doesn't list 720p in EDID [17:29] cause the manual clearly states it's 720p compatible [17:31] have you googled your model of monitor and EDID and Xorg [17:36] yeah, it only yields crap results and some swedish forum posts which i don't understand the first word of [17:36] what model is your monitor? [17:36] the TV is unfortunately a pretty rare and basic consumer model, not really an enthusiasts choice [17:37] Sony KDL-40U2000 [17:39] i think i'm going to try it via the vga input again [18:00] hauppauge remotes what can be done about using all button only limited to a few controls [18:05] is there a replacement for mythbuntu like there is for ms media center [18:05] configuration file [18:16] how do go about making a new lirc configuration file a haupauge remote [18:18] MythbuntuGuest48: o/ [18:18] What model hauppauge? [18:19] wintv nova 500 dt [18:19] remome is a 45 button [18:20] oh [18:20] ;-( [18:20] and i guess the settings mythbunbtu-control-centre produces isn't working [18:21] Fancy doing some compiling? :) [18:22] MythbuntuGuest48: i have to go real soon, so you have to respond faster :) [18:22] iv got most of it setup its the remote im having problems with the tuner working ok [18:22] tunner ok [18:23] remote has limited fuction [18:23] yea, with the latest 500's you need to compile v4l-dvb [18:23] from source :( [18:23] oww [18:23] Remote is working somewhat? [18:23] Daviey, who has access to the rsync server? [18:23] did that last night [18:23] tgm4883_laptop: [18:23] <--------------- does [18:23] anyone else? [18:23] erm, bendailey [18:24] k [18:24] superm1 still has access but can't remember his password AFAIK [18:24]