/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/27/#ubuntu-ops.txt

emetBecause I was bored00:01
PriceChildSo what happens next time you're bored in #ubuntu?00:01
PriceChild(if pici lets you back in000:01
emetI would be a productive member of the Ubuntu community00:02
PriceChildnext time you get bored you will be a productive member of the ubuntu community....00:02
emetyes00:03
emethonestally I don't care if you unban me or not, I just wanted to apologize00:03
ubotuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu ()00:45
ubotuRequinB4 called the ops in #ubuntu ()00:45
Pici...00:45
ubotunickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (poodlesucks maybe you can figure out what he's about)01:00
Picithats not the first time hes been banned.01:00
AmaranthWhat's up with the +z?01:01
Pici+z means that ops can see what the muted person is writing.01:01
naliothAmaranth: ops can hear users when channel is moderated01:01
naliothFor tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml Amaranth01:01
PiciLjL: switch the banmask around if you want, I was just leaving when I saw the ops message01:02
LjLbanmask is fine01:02
Amaranthnalioth: I know what +z does01:02
naliothAmaranth: than why did you ask?01:05
Seeker`Perhaps Amaranth wanted to know why it was set in this instance01:19
LjLthe answer to which is, because when i mute someone i'm usually interested in knowing what they say afterwards01:20
ubotuIn #ubuntu, nickrud said: ubotu resetpanels is to reset the panel to defaults, type in a terminal  gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel01:25
LjL!-resetpanel01:25
uboturesetpanel aliases: panelreset - added by Pici on 2007-10-30 15:31:3301:25
LjL!resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel »01:26
ubotuBut resetpanel already means something else!01:26
LjL!no resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconf-tool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel »01:26
ubotuI'll remember that LjL01:26
LjL!resetpanels is <alias> resetpanel01:26
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL01:26
ubotuIn ubotu, nickrud said: resetpanels is to reset the panel to defaults, type in a terminal  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel  &&  killall gnome-panel01:26
crdlbshouldn't that be gconftool-2 ?01:26
emetPici, first time I've been banned01:26
LjLi'll ask01:26
crdlbLjL: nm, ubuntu makes a symlink01:27
LjL!no resetpanel is <reply> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »01:27
ubotuI'll remember that LjL01:28
ubotuscguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (Furlong45)02:10
Dave2Amaranth, he's K:lined02:10
Piciemet: You have shown no indications to me that you wont exhibit such behavior in the future.02:11
Hobbseejussi01: yes02:30
emetPici, I didn't realise it was a such a serious thing03:52
Piciemet: You said that since you were bored, you decided to troll the channel.03:58
emetno, I was trying to be amuzing03:59
emetit's radically offensive or anything03:59
ZarfPunitand many hellos04:00
emethowdy04:01
Piciemet: Please come back tomorrow and we will discuss your ban.04:01
emetno keep me banned, I don't care honestally04:01
PiciZarfPunit: How can we be of service today?04:01
Piciemet: Then you are free to leave this channel.04:02
ZarfPunitwhat is the difference of installing the OEM and regular04:02
ZarfPuniti have tried both but i am not in the know04:02
PiciZarfPunit: This is #ubuntu-ops, not #ubuntu, did you try to join #ubuntu and was forwarded here?04:02
ZarfPunitno just surfing04:03
ZarfPunitok04:03
emetZarfPunit, OEM is for installing it for other people, for instance if you built a computer for someone else04:03
Piciemet: This is not a support channel.04:03
Pici!idle04:03
ubotuPlease keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.04:03
emetI'm currently banned from the support channel04:03
ZarfPunitahh04:03
ZarfPunitso ill chill in space gotcha see ya round then04:04
emettake it easy04:04
Piciemet: You can't have everything, either we talk about your ban tomorrow and you part here, or you just part and the ban will stand until I prune my bans.04:05
emetalright, I'll talk to Seveas04:06
* Pici headdesks04:07
jbinderHi.04:38
jbinderI can't find a patch for my router and it won't let me in.04:38
jbinderI connected to freenode on port 800104:38
jbinderAnd it still won't let me into #ubuntu04:38
naliothpatience is a virtue04:47
* Aloha waves to kitofhawaii 05:27
kitofhawaiihey everyone, anyone know if jono's been particularly busy as of late? i think we've sent requests over for the mailing list and haven't gotten a response. also want to confirm how we should handle coc re the issue regarding kah***** and #ubuntu-us-hi for Aloha05:29
MadpilotI think "jono" and "incredibly busy" tend to go together at all times :)05:33
Alohaheh05:33
Hobbseehe's just managed to get back from teh sprint though05:33
Madpilotkitofhawaii, are you another victim of the great black hole that is rt@ubuntu.com?05:33
kitofhawaiiMadpilot: yah we've sent uhm...three requests in the past month, no response :)05:34
Madpilotkitofhawaii, I've sent three in the past four months, zero response.05:34
MadpilotUbuntu Canada's website has so far taken... about a year to get this far. It's still busted.05:35
kitofhawaiiah...do we have an alternative to go with? maybe perhaps just use a different mailing list system for the time being maybe05:35
HobbseeMadpilot: it's not supposed to always be a hole - you're supposed to get an automated response05:35
MadpilotHobbsee, I"ve never even gotten that05:35
Madpilotkitofhawaii, join the ubuntu-loco mailing list, complain there.05:36
kitofhawaiiyah me neither05:36
kitofhawaiiMadpilot: that's a good idea...bark up some trees :)05:36
MadpilotFor that matter, why the heck is rt in use, when we've got the mightly and glorious Launchpad, co-ordination app to end all co-ordination apps?05:37
kitofhawaiialso we had a question re the whole *problem member* being an issue and a control freak with the group and new members on irc...any good ways of approaching the situation?05:38
Madpilotsounds like fun05:39
kitofhawaiioh yah05:39
MadpilotHobbsee, would ubuntu-loco be the best place for meta-issues like "what do we do with problem members?" I can't think of another avenue, myself.05:39
Alohaubuntu-loco isn't listed on https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support05:41
Alohahttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-loco05:43
Madpilotsorry, it's loco-contacts05:43
Madpilothttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts05:43
Alohathnx05:43
Madpilotclosest thing Ubuntu has to a meta-loco-list05:44
Alohawhat do you mean by meta?05:44
Madpilotdiscussion about loco-teams in general, as opposed to discussion by/about a specific loco team05:44
Alohagotcha05:45
Alohalike a list-discuss05:45
ubotuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:46
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:46
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:46
Madpilotand general issues - like actually getting tech support, or dealing with control freaks/unpleasant users/whatever05:46
Alohagotcha05:47
Pyrohello05:48
naliothhi Pyro what can we do for you?05:49
Pyroi was wondering if you could unblock my ip address05:49
naliothwhy is it blocked?05:49
Pyroi dont know05:49
naliothhow did you get to #ubuntu-ops ?05:49
HobbseeMadpilot: unsure - i suspect LP is so unstable05:49
Pyroi run a static ip and i just tried to join ubuntu and it said it was banned05:49
Hobbseeand they get tickets about LP being down05:49
Pyroi was told to join and ask you by harrisony05:50
Pyrocan it be unbanned?05:50
naliothhang on a minute, please  :)05:51
Pyrothankyou05:52
naliothMadpilot: customer05:52
Madpilot??05:53
naliothMadpilot: you banned pyro on the 16th05:54
PiciMadpilot: its one of your bans.05:54
Madpilotgiven that that was 10 days ago, safe to say I've forgotten it.05:54
Madpilotone minute, I'll pull the ban05:54
Pyrothank you05:54
Picier05:55
Pyrodo you need ip?05:56
Madpilotclear05:57
MadpilotPyro, I think I got your ban.06:00
Pyrothanx06:00
Pyroone more thing.. do you need any mods or admins?06:02
HobbseeMadpilot: elky would be the one to ask abotu loco stuff06:03
MadpilotHobbsee, true 'nuff. Haven't seen her online in a while, actually.06:03
tritiumSome nights are better than others...06:03
Madpilottritium, the willfully dense character currently gracing -offtopic?06:04
tritiumMadpilot: yes06:04
Madpilot"enough rope to hang himself with"06:05
Madpilots/himself/herself as appropriate06:05
tritiumI guess!06:05
PiciI say we ask him to come in here if he has a problem with the rules, I dont like having policy arugments in 'public' channels.06:06
tritiumPici is wise.06:06
tritiumI agree.06:06
Madpilot"enough rope" has been reached06:07
PiciUp to you, I'm just watching (and hitting my head on my desk)06:07
Madpilotmeh. you can stop bruising your forehead now, Pici :)06:08
PiciYay.06:08
Picinow hes in #ubuntu...06:08
Madpilotwe'll see if he rises to tritium's bait there.06:09
bod_tritium, so wots this channel for06:11
PiciPyro: One does not ask for ops, one is chosen.06:11
tritiumbod_: In this case, it's for moderation.06:11
Pyro=\06:11
bod_tritium,.,. ok ,.,. so could u plz explain wot i am not understanding?06:11
tritiumbod_: I have.  You need to stop harassing me about it.06:12
bod_tritium, if i new the answer,. i wouldnt be asking06:12
MadpilotPici, no, one is mad enough to volunteer when asked to. :)06:12
Hobbseewhy is he trying in #launchpad?06:12
tritiumIt's rather simple.  #ubuntu is for ubuntu support.  That's why we flag offtopic chit-chat.  It's too busy for that.06:12
bod_tritium,  i understand that,.,. but i was kicked from off-topic for trying to understand why 3 posts that were posted not expecting a response was ot'd,.,. he knows its ot06:13
tritiumbod_: that was not why you were kicked06:14
bod_tritium,  lemme guess,.,. trolling and harrasing?06:14
tritiumbod_: speedy's posts were not flagged for offtopic in the first place, anyway06:14
tritiumbod_: I didn't even kick you, I hope you realize06:14
tritiumAs I may have been biased by your harassment of me, I refrained from doing so.06:15
bod_tritium,  i no06:15
tritiumbod_: speedy tried to claim that ONLY the forums were for ubuntu support, and that the channel is NOT.  He was incorrect.06:16
tritiumThe channel is, in fact, also for support.06:16
bod_tritium,  this is stupid,.,. im just gonna apologize and ask for the matter to be forgotten06:16
* jrib thinks that is wise06:16
bod_lol06:16
* Pici screams06:16
tritiumamazing06:17
Madpilotbod_, first ban is for 24hrs. Come back tomorrow evening.06:17
bod_tritium,  apology accepted?06:17
bod_Madpilot, thankyou06:17
tritiumbod_: sure06:17
bod_cheers,.,. where can i go for ot stuff for the mean-time?06:18
naliothbod_: see what i told you in #ubuntu06:18
bod_nalioth, ok ta06:19
bod_c u in #ubuntu tritium06:19
bod_bye06:19
tritiumInteresting.06:20
danrojhi06:32
danrojflood in #ubuntu-es06:33
danrojby gabo_06:33
kitofhawaiihey how do you move someone down from access level 30?06:51
Hobbseewhat access do you have?06:51
kitofhawaii3006:52
kitofhawaiiand contact :)06:52
kitofhawaiibut chanserv wouldn't let me lower it06:52
kitofhawaii(for someone else that is)06:52
naliothkitofhawaii: are you identified to chanserv ?06:53
kitofhawaiiyes i am, it let me add an op...06:54
kitofhawaii-ChanServ- [****] matches an access level higher than your own06:54
nalioththen you should be able to add your level 30 as a level 1006:54
naliothkitofhawaii: if you'e getting that, you're not ID'd as chanown06:54
kitofhawaiihmmn06:55
naliothkitofhawaii: /msg CHANSERV help identify06:55
naliothkitofhawaii: not nickserv06:55
kitofhawaiioh! thank you :)06:56
kitofhawaiiok...and uh...if i need to make a potential hostile takeover of our launchpad page...?07:05
kitofhawaiiis that possible? or should we just abandon the one being used07:05
Madpilotkitofhawaii, what on earth is going on in your locoteam?07:06
=== _RenaTu is now known as RenaTo
kitofhawaiiMadpilot: the expected has become the has happened :)07:07
Madpilothmm? trolls at the loco level?07:08
kitofhawaiiwell more just bitter feelings and uh..hot headed attitude..07:09
Alohawhat is the usual course of action for complaints?07:39
=== _RenaTu is now known as RenaTo
RenaTotchal para todos - bye for all08:08
jussi01Just a FYI for anyone who is interested (+ Hobbsee) I had a pm this morning from ardchoille, asking to be removed from #kubuntu-kde4 access list, which I have done.09:31
Hobbseejussi01: fair enough09:31
jpatrickjussi01: well... he's gone.. :(09:32
jussi01jpatrick: you are back!! :P09:33
jpatrickjussi01: yes! and not a single ping from those trolls :D09:33
jussi01:D09:34
jussi01morning ompaul09:48
ompaulmorning09:49
ompaulout to breakfast :)09:49
ikoniamorning ompaul09:59
ompaulactually10:08
ompaulwe have not left yet10:08
ompaulmorning ikonia10:09
ikoniahey hey morning10:09
ompaulhey hey my my and into the black!10:09
ikoniawhat's going on10:09
ompaulcan you connect my vision ....10:10
ompaulcorrect10:10
ompaularrr10:10
ikoniaha ha, not with typing like that10:10
ompaulcan you correct my vision ....10:10
ikonianot very easily, I'd need to google for the corrections10:10
ompaulcan somebody please tell me what is going on?10:10
ompaul</rory gallagher>10:11
ikoniaahhh10:11
ikoniaI don't know all the lyrics10:11
ikoniaclealy you are the master10:11
Garythe noodley master?11:02
Hobbsee!ping11:37
ubotuping: unknown host11:37
jaggz-The router thing and the DCC page seem like different topics.  What's wrong with my router?12:10
pricechildHey there.12:11
jaggz-hi price child :)12:11
pricechildjaggz-, basically its trying to interpret something that it really shouldn't be... then dies when it fails.12:12
jaggz-I can take it.. break the news to me, doc.12:12
jaggz-(I can handle the details)  :)12:13
pricechildThat's basically it?12:13
pricechildI'm not the biggest expert on it either.12:13
jaggz-I join #ubuntu all the time..12:13
pricechildand its only lately you've been affected.12:13
pricechildyou *were* affected12:13
jaggz-today (yesterday) I noticed my IP was changed.. my system had logged onto someone else's router!12:13
jaggz-It's supposed to stay on my own router..  Can I keep it from ever trying another router?12:14
pricechildjaggz-, wireless?12:14
jaggz-yeah12:14
pricechildit won't connect to random networks by default unless you've done it before12:14
pricechildremove them from gconf (system network blah)12:14
jaggz-I tried to log into one of my work systems and it forbid me .. took me a few minutes of worry until I tested my IP12:15
jaggz-yeah, they're not there12:15
pricechildjaggz-, anyway have you changed onto 8001?12:15
jaggz-I hibernated the other day12:15
jaggz-no, I didn't want to change my port just yet12:15
pricechildjaggz-, you should do it anyway.12:15
Seveasjaggz-, to remove networks from network-manager, see http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2008/01/11/traincoding-network-manager-annoyance/12:15
jaggz-so you think I was attacked by someone who sent some DCC garbage to me, causing me to flood freenode?12:16
pricechildjaggz-, no12:16
pricechildjaggz-, someone would have sent dcc garbage to #ubuntu, it goes to all users.12:16
pricechildjaggz-, your router was vulnerable and so you got disconnected.12:16
=== Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee
pricechildjaggz-, lots of people disonnecting = annoying to them and to the channel for spam12:17
jaggz-Seveas, I'm still at hoary hedgehog for now12:19
Seveasjaggz-, that's not even supported anymore :)12:19
jaggz-the network config seems to be different than that discussed at this address.12:20
Seveasand seriously obsolete, probably vulnerable12:20
Seveasjaggz-, very much so12:20
jaggz-I need a new install seriously.. waiting to get these new servers online12:20
jaggz-okay, I'll change to 8001..  why is 8001 better?  :)12:21
pricechildjaggz-, because the router won't try and interpret dcc's and fail12:22
jaggz-you're saying my router is looking at port 6667 as special?12:24
jaggz-searching on it12:24
jaggz-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client12:24
jaggz-The DCC SEND exploit is an IRC related bug in some Netgear, Linksys, and d-link routers. Replacing [character argument] with a string of 14 or more characters (not including spaces) will cause users to forcefully disconnect if they are affected. This is likely directly associated with the smart firewalling feature of these routers; disabling it may resolve the issue. This exploit is confined to port 6667, so a temporary fix is to12:26
jaggz-okay.. well good enough for now12:28
jaggz-thanks12:28
=== pricechild is now known as PriceChild
rndn<-- jaggz12:42
HelvascaHey Guys...12:43
HelvascaAnyonearound?12:44
* jussi01 is12:44
stdindepends on what you want12:44
jussi01@btlogin12:44
HelvascaI was a little silly a while ago in #ubuntu, and I was talking to elky, and I was wondering if it possible to get my ban removed...12:45
HelvascaIt wasn't malicious, just asking people to join #trivia, but it still doesn't mean it was right...12:46
elkbuntucan someone else please? im busy right now12:47
stdinI don't have access in #u, so someone else needs to12:48
SeveasHelvasca, we hate spammers12:48
HelvascaI do too...12:48
Seveasso why on earth were you spamming?12:48
HelvascaI don tusually do it, i did it and went... oh crap12:48
HelvascaI have no idea...12:49
HelvascaJust a lapse of judgement to be honest.12:49
Seveasa lapse of judgement that repeated itself12:50
HelvascaNo?12:50
Seveascame in, spammed, spammed again, left12:50
Seveassorry, I don't buy your story at all12:50
Helvascadid you have a date of the incident, I'm just going to go and have a look at the logs12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:09 *** Helvasca has joined #ubuntu12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:13 <Helvasca> everyone get in #trivia12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:27 <IdleOne> arthur37854: fsck12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:28 <samad909> ikonia: can not be as the network card light isn't even on12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:28 <miline> arthur37854, fsck12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:31 *** misslecommander has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:35 <arthur37854> ty12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:42 * Helvasca is urging everyone to join #trivia12:52
Seveas2008-01-16T13:52:43 *** Helvasca (Helvasca!n=greg@unaffiliated/helvasca) has left #ubuntu ()12:52
Seveastime is UTC+112:52
Helvascak12:52
HelvascaThat was really quite stuipd...12:53
HelvascaDont worry about it then.12:53
HelvascaIll cop it for a bit longer.12:54
Hobbsee!ping13:12
ubotuping: unknown host13:12
Hobbsee!ping13:38
ubotuping: unknown host13:38
Hobbsee!ping13:39
ompaul!ping13:54
ubotuping: unknown host13:54
ompaul!test13:54
ubotuFailed.13:54
Hobbseeheh13:58
Hobbseehi ompaul13:58
ompaulHobbsee, hi14:02
* ompaul is doing stuff around the house and car - mostly the car - it got really shiny about an hour ago - nice guys in one of our larger nearby local shopping centres doing the we clean while you shop14:03
jussi01ompaul: nice! where'd you go, blanchardstown?14:04
ompaulI had not cleaned it since I got it 20th Dec and it was filthy14:04
ompauljussi01, no Superquinn Lucan14:04
jussi01ahh, :D14:04
ompaulbrought swmbo for a cuppa and while we sat back it got shiny14:04
* jussi01 envies that the shops are open on sundays...14:05
ompaulthen got some thank you pressies for people for their help with stuff (read wine)14:05
ompaulthen hit a flower shop and got 25 euros worth of temporary dressing up for the front room14:05
jussi01ompaul: hehe, I know those sort of pressies well :D here though, we substitute the wine for vodka :P14:06
Seveasompaul, you've got staff experience, don't you? :)14:06
Seveasdo you know how to drop linked nicks that one forgot the password for?14:06
Dave2you can /nick to 'em and set the pass14:07
Dave2or just /nick and drop, I guess14:07
ompaulSeveas, you don't drop the nick you just reset the pass14:07
ompaulthere is a process14:07
ompaulthey have to have an address linked to a working email address14:07
ompaulwhich is why they ask for an email address14:08
ompaulehh Seveas pm me14:08
Seveasompaul, resetting pass works :)14:08
ompaulyeap14:08
ompaulSeveas, you do staff?14:08
Seveasno14:08
ompaulI was going to say you don't have the time :P14:09
ompauljussi01, we play to the persons wants - i.e. she drinks wine14:09
ompauljussi01, for someone else on friday it was wine x4 bottles and cognac - they did a big favour14:10
ompauljussi01, the down side of shops open Sunday is that people go shopping14:11
ompaul;-)14:11
jussi01ompaul: hehe14:12
jussi01Hmmm, is anyone welcome to amend the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat wiki page?14:12
ompauljussi01, if they do it right14:12
ompaulif you understand my drift14:13
Seveasjussi01, except for trolls14:13
ompauljussi01, there are a few people in this channel subscribed to it14:13
jussi01got you. there is a small error (do we still use ubugtu, and if so, where is the info?), and maybe we need to add #kubuntu-kde4 to the list.14:14
ompauljussi01,  no and yes in that order feel free to work it out14:17
jussi01:)14:17
ompauljussi01, ask Seveas if you need details14:17
ompaulgone shining the inside of the car14:17
ompaulback in a few mo14:17
jussi01ok, done. how does that look?14:22
ompauljussi01, okay, I gots an idea if you are interested };->14:26
ompaulchange infobots to bots if LJL is interested so we can explain that people get forwarded to some channels if their clients exhibit certain characteristics14:27
ompauljussi01, only if LjL approves of it methinks14:28
ompaulSeveas, would you do an sql query for me - so that I might manage to put together a project to update the bot so it stops saying See also !foo14:30
ompaulSeveas, so we can do «/msg ubotu foo»14:31
ompaulSeveas, or do you want to do that in a single line of python albeit a long line of python14:31
* ompaul hides behind Seveas 14:31
ubotuIn ubotu, Stephen-Mason said: which is best?14:33
jussi01ompaul: sorry, Im making lunch...14:42
ompauljussi01, don't be sorry, enjoy it :)14:43
jussi01ompaul: :)14:43
ompaul>Metal-maniac-mat< please don't do that in #ubuntu I'll let you back soon15:02
ompaulno commnet15:03
ompaulcomment that is15:03
* ompaul says nothing 15:10
ompauland warms the emp cannon ;-)15:10
PiciSeveas: ping.16:37
SeveasPici, pong16:37
PiciWere there any config settings you needed to make to ubotu to make it join #ubuntu or any other large channel? I'm having issues doing testing with my supybot.16:37
Seveasissues such as initial sync taking an awful long time?16:38
PiciYes.16:38
PiciSo much so that the bot times out and disconnects.16:38
Seveashaven't had those16:39
Picihrm, I'll have to do some more debugging then.16:39
PiciCould be one of the superfluous plugins I have loaded.16:39
Seveasdennis@binaries4all:~/ubotu$ grep -i timeout ubotu.conf16:40
Seveas# simple driver based on timeout sockets, is used by default because16:40
Seveassupybot.databases.users.timeoutIdentification: 016:40
Seveas# Determines what the default timeout for socket objects will be. This16:40
Seveas# means that *all* sockets will timeout when this many seconds has gone16:40
Seveassupybot.defaultSocketTimeout: 2016:40
* Pici looks at his16:40
Seveassupybot.drivers.module: Socket16:40
Seveasiirc I had problems with twisted as driver16:41
PiciThanks16:42
BHSPitLappySeveas, I seem to have lost my way17:35
SeveasBHSPitLappy, buy a tomtom, garmin or holy bible then17:35
BHSPitLappyforgive me, brother, for I hath strayed from the path of the CoC, but yea, how I wish to see the light once more17:35
SeveasBHSPitLappy, before I unban you, why do you have 3 different clients from 3 different locations?17:36
BHSPitLappySeveas, Monkey is my desktop, it's nearly always on;  Lappy is my laptop, used transiently when away from the dorm;  iTouch shouldn't have connected.  I must have left the client open on it.17:38
Seveasfair enough17:38
Seveasnow behave in the future, 'stfu' and 'gtfo' are not welcome, even jokingly17:39
BHSPitLappyIt's easy to forget -offtopic is still under the CoC once in a while17:39
Seveasbans removed17:40
BHSPitLappyThanks.17:40
PiciHeres a quick test of my bantracker code (mainly to prove to myself that I can cleanly pull stuff out of the databse that I stuck in): http://bnrubin.no-ip.org:8000/log/17:47
PiciI'm using Django for the database api and html templating.17:48
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=== no0tix is now known as no0tic
ompaulPici, ehh you are no longer stuck in a factoid factory and now a django factory ... hmm this is news18:26
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=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
no0ticGabriele Postorino espone le slide preparate. L'assemblea esplode in fragorose risate all'ultima slide in cui è presente una foto segnaletica di MefistoRQ con la dicitura "Attenti allo spammone!".18:49
ompaulno0tic, ?18:59
no0ticompaul, sorry, pasted in the wrong channel :(18:59
ompaulno0tic, I figured as much but wanted you to be able to paste it wherever you needed19:00
no0ticompaul, thanks19:00
LjLwow exploits seem to have become immensely fashionable again19:14
ompaulLjL, a new batch of l33t kidz?19:15
LjLmaybe, they're possibly born like inferior animals, fish or such, hundred eggs a season :)19:16
PiciLjL: fyi, the queue idea for the new bantracker seems to be working great so far.19:16
LjLPici: you've implemented it?19:16
Picihttp://bnrubin.no-ip.org:8000/log/19:16
PiciSomewhat, it currently dumps everything to the database when it gets full though, since I havent implemented recording any of the events(kicks,bans,etc)19:17
PiciI'm trying to get it to log everything before I do the event code.19:18
LjLPici: but is this the ubotu code or a separate thing?19:18
PiciLjL: Completely separate, but using similar ideas.19:18
PiciI have a plan to integrate the legacy tracker stuff of course.19:18
kbrookswhy is source-o-matic unavailable?19:38
kbrooksas evidenced by19:38
kbrooks!source-o-matic19:38
ubotusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.19:38
LjLkbrooks: obsolete repositories present, mostly superseded by software sources19:39
Seveasbecause it's been removed :)19:39
LjLand the dutchman being lazy19:39
LjLwhops here he is19:39
kbrooksLjL, ok19:39
jpatrickwhat did he do?20:02
naliothjpatrick: the network just hung20:03
PriceChildjpatrick, who?20:03
jpatrickPriceChild: LjL20:04
PriceChildah20:04
Seveazfun, services dead?20:11
Seveaz--- No services can currently be detected20:11
Seveaz--- No services can currently be detected20:11
Seveaz--- No services can currently be detected20:11
=== Seveaz is now known as Seveas
Seveasand no ops in #ubuntu20:13
Seveastrolltime is upon us...20:13
Seveas!staff | what happened with nick/chanserv?20:13
jpatrickSeveaz: yes20:13
crdlbfor the past 8 minutes or so20:13
GarySeveaz, yeah, services are down at the mo20:13
ubotuwhat happened with nick/chanserv?: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)20:13
Seveaslagbotu20:13
jpatrickSeveas: exactly what I was thinking...20:14
jpatrickcan't the floodbot's op?20:14
Seveasnot without chanserv...20:15
Dave2We've lost 'em for a bit.20:15
Jack_SparrowJrib.. are you around?20:15
jpatrick21:14 ** mode/#kubuntu [+f #ubuntu-unregged] by ChanServ20:15
naliothSeveas: netsplit20:16
PriceChildWeren't the floodbots meant to all +o when they realised chanserv was dying?20:16
PriceChildoh.... they all died20:16
jpatrickI think it's back20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas-NickServ- You have already identified20:16
Seveas:)20:16
PriceChildjpatrick, they call you bullet :D20:16
SeveasI kept trying20:16
jpatrickPriceChild: er, no they call me Patrick :D20:17
PriceChildI'm imagining seveas with one of those toys where you have to put the shapes in the right holes.... he's got a circle and just "keeps trying" to put it in the square20:17
Seveas:))20:18
Jack_SparrowPriceChild: I wanted to thank you for pointing me in the direction of that upstream program.  I found it well written and eash to work with20:18
PriceChildJack_Sparrow, I didn't :)20:18
Jack_SparrowYou pointed me to jrib I believe..20:19
PriceChildNope, not me either.20:19
* PriceChild consumes your thanks before you are able to retract them.20:19
Jack_SparrowIf I am mistaken .. then I take it ALL back  :)20:19
PriceChildtoo late20:19
jribheh20:19
* Seeker` steals PriceChild's thanks, and runs off, giggling20:20
* PriceChild unlocks the emp cannon cabinet, blasts Seeker`, then locks it back up again and swallows the key.20:20
Jack_SparrowI wrote a couple modules and now when I run canoe, I can get the system information pasted directly to the pastebin20:20
PriceChildcool20:21
Jack_SparrowWHo should I have try it.. it has no installer atm, just manually copy 5 files..20:22
Jack_SparrowI cant seem to catch jrib20:22
Jack_Sparrowhttp://pastebin.ca/875359  here was the last output from canoe20:22
jribyou spelled "kernel" as "kernal" :)20:23
Jack_Sparrowops20:23
Picibetter than spelling it colonel20:23
PriceChildor potatoe20:24
jribtrue...20:24
Jack_SparrowFixed20:24
PriceChildompaul, remember that guy yesterday, you were wondering if he was a troll or just clueless?20:24
naliothjpatrick: is that your friend who was evading the bans (in #ubuntu-irc now) ?20:26
jpatricknalioth: no, I asked him to join so we could explain as a group20:26
Seeker`PriceChild: EMPs dont have much effect on people20:26
naliothjpatrick: is it him?20:27
jpatricknalioth: yep20:27
naliothjpatrick: he _IS_ evading a kline20:27
PriceChildSeeker`, no, but it will on the computer you are sat at.20:27
* Seeker` had run away, and was nowhere near the computer20:27
jpatricknalioth: is that necessary?20:28
PriceChildSeeker`, I'm very poor atim.20:28
naliothjpatrick: you didn't see the number of clones he was running20:28
naliothjpatrick: i'm just giving you info20:28
jpatricknalioth: ah, ok20:28
Seeker`PriceChild: Hah. An I;m also at least an hour away from the computer thats actually connected to freenode20:28
jpatricknalioth: however, if you feel a kline is in order, go ahead20:37
naliothjpatrick: no, i'm just keeping you informed20:37
naliothmy spanish isn't really good20:38
jpatrickhmm, I just tried to explain in -irc and he hits me back20:38
Seeker`is there anything "worse" than a Kline?20:38
naliothSeeker`: a thief stealing your computer?20:38
SeveasSeeker`, the wrath of nalioth20:38
Picis-line, where freenode stabs you in the face through the computer.20:39
Seeker`oooh20:39
naliothawww, Pici, now we're gonna have to kill you  :P20:39
naliothlettin' those secret projects out of the bag and all. . . .20:39
jussi01what happened to the using thscreen light as a laser to blind you project?20:41
naliothit burned out too many displays  :(20:42
jpatrickSeveas: should we have someone @ in #kubuntu too?20:44
Seveasjpatrick, if you think it's necessary20:44
jpatrickjust in case20:44
SeveasI just opped mysqlf as chanserv test :)20:44
jpatrickah20:45
LjLwhy, is chanserv acting up?20:45
naliothservices won't be leaving any time soon20:45
naliothproblem was found and resolved20:45
LjLdid i miss some global notice?20:45
LjL(since my own connection definitely *was* acting up...)20:45
naliothLjL: no20:45
jpatrickLjL: would now be a good time for #k-es? :-)20:50
Picilinrux = troll imho20:50
jpatrickmikelinux_ = troll imho20:50
* Pici needs to build a detect-o-troll plugin for the bot20:50
* jussi01 curses all things apple as well as internet connections20:50
jpatrickno0tic: really, can't we just throw him out?20:52
LjLPici: no, that one is mine20:53
PiciLjL: okay ;)20:53
no0ticjpatrick, explain him why, I won't20:53
jpatrickno0tic: and talk to a brick wall?20:53
LjLby the way seveas, misspelling "myself" as "mysqlf" is worrying.21:00
SeveasLOL21:00
Seveaswhere did you see that?21:00
LjL[21:44:49] <Seveas> I just opped mysqlf as chanserv test :)21:01
Seveasheh21:01
Seveastoo many mysql problems in the past weeks21:01
Seveasit's stuck in my fingers now :)21:01
LjLjpatrick, could you do one last memoserv/mail attempt for me? i'm really not very comfortable with changing a contact when the contact is still active on IRC...21:01
LjLSeveas: take it sqlightly21:02
jpatrickLjL: erm, -MemoServ(MemoServ@services.)- You have no recorded memos21:02
Seveas@lart LjL21:02
LjLjpatrick, i'm saying memoserv *to* timido21:02
jpatrickah, right21:03
ompaulsqleveasqleas21:03
ompaulLjL, ^^ our new op ;-)21:03
* ompaul goes to play Garmin games21:04
LjLompaul: the realname being drop table users;? or delete * from users where nickname<>'sqleveasqleas';?21:06
ompaulLjL, insert into table next_to_be_dropped (select from table users where nick equals sql);21:08
ompaulLjL, your php can do the rest21:08
ompaulback in a few21:09
ubotuIn #ubuntu, Seveas said: !vista =~ s/operating system/'operating system'/21:09
jpatrickright....21:11
jussi01hehe21:11
PriceChildAnd so the hunt for a new house begins.21:33
SeveasPriceChild, you got kicked out?21:33
Seeker`PriceChild: Next years housing?21:33
PriceChildSeveas, yeah, I trashed the place with our drunken parties21:34
Seveas:)21:34
PriceChildWhat actually happenned...21:34
PriceChildIs that 3 of the people fell out with the other 2... and i'm stuck in the middle.21:34
Seeker`ah, fun21:35
Seeker`PriceChild: Are you living with any of them next year?21:39
PriceChildthe 221:39
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)21:54
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)21:54
PriceChildLjL, the bots missed two forwards?21:55
PriceChildLjL, accidentally used two spaces between "victim" & "nick" when adding randomly... it added " " to the list of victims and i'm not sure how to remove it :)21:59
jdongLjL: when in doubt, strip?21:59
jdongoops... I just read that again.....21:59
PriceChildjdong, you meant it22:00
PriceChildand we *all* know it22:00
PriceChild!jding22:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:00
PriceChildgah22:00
PriceChild!jdong22:00
ubotu<Hobbsee> jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!22:00
Seveas!king22:03
ubotukong22:03
Seveas!-jding22:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:03
Seveas!unforget jding22:03
ubotuI suddenly remember jding again, Seveas22:03
Seveas!jding22:04
ubotujdong22:04
Seveas!zing22:04
ubotuzong22:04
jdongSeveas: if only they'd have that treatment for my grandparents.... you should go into medicine :)22:04
jdongactually, !unforget mechanics would be great for me too22:04
PriceChild<Al2O3> please allow me back into the ubuntu channel, I was a bad boy and thank you for being so kind in kicking me so I learned my lesson22:16
PriceChildGuilty conscience anyone?22:17
no0tic27/01 23:21:20  <mikelinux> so somebody will kill you in the future22:21
naliothno0tic: where was that?22:24
no0tic-irc22:25
Amaranthjdong: you'll like this: http://sourceforge.net/developer/diary.php?diary_id=26407&diary_user=14758323:09
AmaranthI don't think you can do that23:09
jdongAmaranth: hahaha, I'm guessing it doesn't work either :D23:10
PriceChildAmaranth, erm... wtf?!23:10
jdong"Oh by the way, I take it back...."23:10
* PriceChild resists the temptation to start up a torrent of them and email him a linky or something23:10
popeyshould !ubuntuguide not do something?23:24
PriceChild!ubuntuguide23:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:27
PriceChildpopey, what do you mean?23:27
popeygenerally people recommend not to use ubnutuguide23:30
naliothpopey: are you channeling?23:30
popeyi figured there might be a standard bot response23:30
popeyam I what?23:30
naliothpopey: are you 'psychically channeling from the past' ?23:30
popeyI don't _think_ so, why?23:30
popeyi am tired so humour may be lost on me23:31
naliothpopey: because Ubuntuguide _used_ to be very bad23:31
naliothbut couple years back, a university got the domain and the info is good now23:31
popeyand now we recommend it?23:31
naliothwe neither recommend or dissuade23:31
Daviey'offically'?23:31
popeyoookay23:32
naliothwhere formerly, !ubuntuguide would get you something similar to !automatix23:32
PriceChildhelp.ubuntu then wiki.ubuntu are always the ones we recommend above all else23:32
LjLPriceChild: eh you can't remove it... it shouldn't hurt too much23:32
popey!automatix23:32
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »23:32
PriceChildLjL, it'll expire some time eh :)23:32
popeythats a lot nicer than it used to be23:32
Davieysurely there needs to be a standard stance on something like ubuntuguide.. one way or the other23:32
LjLPriceChild: yeah, but mode -b !*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic shouldn't do any harm23:32
naliothDaviey: ubuntuguide pretty much mirrors the wiki/help  why would we want a stance on it?23:33
tonyyarussoI've found that the new ubuntuguide is worth mentioning when there doesn't happen to be an article on the wiki yet, but if you find that happening, recommend that the user write up a version for the wiki as well.23:33
LjLubuntuguide used to *recommend* automatix.......23:35
LjLnow, i'm sure it doesn't anymore butstill23:36
no0ticnalioth, mikelinux evaded the kline again23:36
LjLjtn23:37
naliothno0tic: he did?23:38
* nalioth is shocked23:38
naliothno0tic: i'll be he didn't bust the ban in -es, though, did he?23:38
naliothi'll bet23:38
no0ticnalioth, /whois mikelinux shows same realname, same user but very different ip23:38
no0ticnalioth, he's on -es now23:39
naliothoh?23:39
naliothoh?23:39
naliothyou know what, no0tic?  your friend is indeed a troll.23:39
no0ticnalioth, I think he prefers you23:40

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