[00:09] <_gtt_> anyone know a command i can use to find out my mobo model # ?
[00:10] <_gtt_> (or util)
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> _gtt_: lshw might tell you
[00:13] <rrbiz> what's the app that changes the look for gtk apps on KDE ?
[00:14] <nosrednaekim> rrbiz: its in systemsettings->appearance
[00:14] <hamiad> has anyone noticed problems with kicker crashing while trying to configure a panel button?
[00:14] <rrbiz> nosrednaekim: it dosen't have an icon for gtk apps tho
[00:15] <vzduch> gtk-qt-engine
[00:16] <rrbiz> vzduch: yeah that sounds right, thnx
[00:16] <FaiDillinGer> hamiad: yes i did
[00:17] <hamiad> do you have any idea what update caused it?
[00:17] <FaiDillinGer> hamiad: i have no idea, it just didnt bother me
[00:18] <nosrednaekim> hamiad: no problem here.
[00:18] <rrbiz> btw, anchorman is just starting on shoutcasts tv shows desync
[00:18] <FaiDillinGer> hamiad: it happened only a few times tho, didnt crash all the times i tried
[00:18] <hamiad> Do you know what file(s) I could edit to change the buttons, instead?
[00:19] <FaiDillinGer> hamiad: no sorry
[00:19] <hamiad> oh well.  Thanks anyway.
[00:19] <theperryfamily> does anyone know how to restore the autoplay of audio cd option in kubuntu
[00:23] <jckl> i removed the power management from my taskbar and was wondering how i can get it back
[00:23] <nosrednaekim> theperryfamily: ooo... one second
[00:24] <nosrednaekim> jckl: the command is "guidance-power-manager"
[00:24] <_gtt_> nosrednaekim: lshw got me close enough i was able to figure it out. thanks.
[00:25] <chika> hi everybody!
[00:25] <chika> i have a problem with Flash player in linux.....
[00:26] <chika> have any idea....what to do
[00:26] <jckl> !flash
[00:26] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:26] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> theperryfamily: ahhh... I can't find that anywhere! I know its in there somewhere though
[00:27] <jckl> i was looking at emerald and set a theme but now i want it how it was before.. how do i disable emerald
[00:27] <sub[t]rnl> autoplay?
[00:28] <sub[t]rnl> theperryfamily➜ kcontrol -> peripherals -> Storage Media maybe
[00:28] <theperryfamily> sub[t]rnl: tried that...lol
[00:29] <eric_> has anyone had any issue with kaffeine stop working for no apparent reason?
[00:29] <theperryfamily> nosrednaekim: I've found all kinds of documentation on how to turn it off...but nothing on how to turn it back on
[00:29] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[00:29] <sub[t]rnl> !info ivman
[00:29] <ubotu> ivman (source: ivman): daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.14-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 60 kB, installed size 284 kB
[00:30] <theperryfamily> my mom turned it off on accident on her desktop and expected me to have some 2 second fix for it...lol
[00:32] <thechris> I need install help for installing from linux
[00:32] <thechris> i've followed the docs, but get stuck when booting
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> thechris: ok.... where are you confused?
[00:32] <thechris> after the usb mouse is detected, the system hangs
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> thechris: booting the liveCD?
[00:32] <thechris> but only for the 64 bit kernel
[00:32] <thechris> yes, the liveCD, but on a HDD
[00:33] <nosrednaekim> thechris: so you installed from the liveCD?
[00:33] <bascule> theperryfamily: your mom has told hald to do nothing all the time :)
[00:34] <thechris> nosrednaekim: sorta
[00:34] <thechris> i had an install of 32b kubunutu and wanted to install 64b.
[00:34] <eric_> anyone no how to repair kaffeine?
[00:34] <nosrednaekim> thechris: sorta?
[00:35] <thechris> my CD rom doesn't work, nor do i have extra CDRs
[00:35] <nosrednaekim> thechris: ah..... so how did you install?
[00:35] <thechris> so i used the "install from linux" instructions to place the livecd image on a partition and use grub to boot it
[00:35] <thechris> I had the 32b image on the partition originally, but wanted the 64b image
[00:35] <IceDraVen> Hey :) Got my kbuntu install but having 3 very annoying errors, if anyone got 5minute to help me out please send a pm
[00:36] <thechris> so i placed the 64b image on and now the kernel for the livecd image won't boot
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> IceDraVen: just say them here where anyone can see them
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> thechris: are you sure you have a 64 bit computer?
[00:37] <theperryfamily> bascule: exactly...she hates ms and I introduced her to kubuntu and she loves it...but we're still getting her over the learning curve
[00:37] <thechris> nosrednaekim: yes
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> thechris: did the 32 bit version work?
[00:37] <IceDraVen> kk - First Issue is i cant access files on the locale network (partner on winxp), 2nd is cant access msn via Kopete & the third is cant access cd-rom/dvd drive
[00:37] <thechris> nosrednaekim: the livecd booted, yes
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> IceDraVen: to fix the second, run
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:38] <thechris> right now i'm guessing there is an issue with USB in the 64b kernel
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> thechris: then I would suggest just using 32 bit. If you don't have over 3.5 GB of ram there will beno performance difference anyway
[00:38] <IceDraVen> will try now 2moments
[00:39] <thechris> nosrednaekim: i have 8G ram
[00:39] <nosrednaekim> thechris: and no working cd drive? ROFL...
[00:39] <nosrednaekim> thechris: ok :)
[00:39] <thechris> well, i have a working cd drive now, but no cdrs
[00:39] <thechris> I just got this computer
[00:39] <thechris> and my previous one's CD drive didn't work
[00:40] <thechris> so i used the install from linux feature
[00:40] <IceDraVen> sudo apt command not found :S
[00:41] <thechris> when i got the new computer, i just moved the old drive to the new box.  now i'm trying to put a 64b OS onto the new comp so i can move the HDD back to the old box
[00:41] <mixed> anyone know how to change the default size of windows?
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> thechris: ah.... I see...
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> IceDraVen: there is a dash after apt....
[00:43] <IceDraVen> is it apt- get or apt -get
[00:44] <flipstar> apt-get
[00:44] <flipstar> without a space
[00:45] <IceDraVen> Unable to lock list directory
[00:45] <flipstar> yes it is called "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> thechris: do you have an PS2 mice?
[00:45] <bascule> !aptfix | IceDraVen
[00:46] <ubotu> IceDraVen: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:46] <thechris> nosrednaekim: no, usb mouse, ps2 kbd
[00:46] <nosrednaekim> thechris: but could you try a ps2 mouse to see if that was hte problem for sure?
[00:47] <akee> i'm having trouble correctly configuring my timezone
[00:47] <mixed> tekteen, you're still there?
[00:47] <akee> running "date" displays the date/time in terms of UTC
[00:47] <thechris> nosrednaekim: i don't think i have a ps2 mouse
[00:48] <akee> and for some reason i am unable to change the /etc/localtime link
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> thechris: ah... ok
[00:48] <flipstar> !seen teekteen
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen teekteen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <flipstar> hm
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> thechris: well, if you think it really is a kernel error... try booting with no mouse at alland see if that work
[00:49] <articpenguin3800> does adept need to be ported to kde4?
[00:50] <IceDraVen> do i need to reboot for it to kickin?
[00:50] <mixed> anyone know if Logitech rumblepad is supported in ubuntu?
[00:50] <articpenguin3800> !adept
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> mixed: yes, it is
[00:50] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[00:51] <zenix_> hwclock --utc
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> IceDraVen: probably only log out
[00:51] <IceDraVen> will do brb
[00:51] <IceDraVen> then 2more errors to fix lol
[00:51] <mixed> nosrednaekim, by any chance, do you know how to configure it?
[00:52] <shenthil> hi all, i hv installed kde 4. but when i login i still see kde 3.5.8
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> mixed: kcontrol->mouse and keyboard->joystick
[00:52] <shenthil> how do i use kde 4
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: did you select kde4 from the session dialog in the login manager?
[00:52] <cpk1_> ok so possible reasons this blade that I found lying around is randomly restarting? I dont think it is heat
[00:54] <shenthil> hi nosrednaekim: i don't see one in hte login manager
[00:54] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: i am using kubuntu
[00:54] <IceDraven> Ok that can half my contacts.. but none avaliable to talk to :S
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: its a little menu-list looking button
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: did you log in?
[00:55] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: yeah - i saw that. but it simply says kde - doesn't say as kde 4
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: there isn't a kde4 option?
[00:55] <shenthil> nope.. i don't see one
[00:55] <IceDraven> yeah :P
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: hmph, did you follow the official guide?
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: maybe none of your freinds are around?
[00:56] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: somewhere i read of installing the kde 4 libs.. and i followed that.
[00:57] <IceDraven> can see them on my other machines list - kdewallet error though says pass aint right but i know it is :S
[00:57] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: i am new to linux... am not a tech savvy yet.
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: could you give me a link to the tutorial?
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: its ok :)
[00:57] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: sorry, i don't remember that now.. its a long time since i installed the libs.
[00:57] <flipstar> IceDraven: i think kwallet wants the master passwd..
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: oh, thats the kwallet password, not the MSN password (kwallet will store all your passwords for you)
[00:58] <flipstar> right
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> !kde4 | shenthil, well, follow this offical guide
[00:58] <ubotu> shenthil, well, follow this offical guide: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:59] <IceDraven> the root passwordw as denied...i'll try gaim instead
[00:59] <IceDraven> but the cdrom & local network errors are still here.. any thoughts?
[00:59] <shenthil> nosrednaekim:  it simply says "install kde4-core" in point # 3, i am not sure how to do that
[01:00] <flipstar> just use adept-manager, shenthil or the konsole
[01:00] <shenthil> nosrednaekim:  are you in #kubuntu-kde4 too?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: "sudo apt-get install kde4-core"
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: yes
[01:00] <shenthil> nosrednaekim:  wow.. thats sounds easy... thanks everyone.. :-)
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: it will be called pidgin FYI
[01:00] <shenthil> i started loving linux
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: did you add the repository though?
[01:01] <IceDraven> yeah just keep calling it gaim (no idea why :P)
[01:01] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: i think yes.. not sure thou'. still, i know how to do that
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: ok.. for the cd error... this might be harder...
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: ok
[01:02] <mixed> nosrednaekim  "Kcontro"?  Where is it? I can't find it
 thanks a lot for ur help
[01:02] <IceDraven> harder is ok but i need it working (backed all my work up their & its got no burner :P)
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> mixed: kcontrol.... its not in the menu though
[01:02] <mixed> ok so how can I access kcontrol?  through the terminal?
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: where do you have your data backed up to?
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> mixed: yes
[01:03] <Goop2> it is in the menu actually.. under 'System' I think
[01:03] <IceDraven> partners shared doc's
[01:04] <Goop2> no.. sorry, I was thinking ksysguard
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: oh.. not the cds?
[01:04] <JohnFlux> go ksysguard!
[01:04] <IceDraven> nah the cd's have some large apps on
[01:05] <mixed> nosrednaekim, thanks, i just callibrated it, lets see if it worked
[01:05] <IceDraven> root@ice:/home/ice# apt-get install linneighborhood < will that fix my fileshare issue?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: ah.. well lets do the CDs first.
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: maybe... maybe not.....
[01:05] <PhilGold> Hey guys, this where I can get some help getting my kubuntu install to function anywhere near properly?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: if its not functioning... yes :)
[01:06] <mixed> nosrednaekim,  how do I make the joystick work with games already installed like supertux?
[01:06] <mixed> PhilGold, yes, just ask away
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> mixed: it might not support a joystick
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> IceDraven: first of all... insert a CD, open konqueror and put "media:/" into the location bar
[01:07] <PhilGold> Awesome.  I just did a full install from the alternate install files (burned to disk, booted, followed directions).  The GUI will not come up, but I rebooted using the recovery option, and am stuck at the text prompt.  I've tried running the konsole command, but I get a 'cannot connect to X server' message.
[01:07] <mixed> nosrednaekim, so I have to find a game that's supported by the joystick?  what a killer! LoL this really sucks cack, there's no point testing quake 3 with it then
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: ok. try running "startx"
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> mixed: try using bzflag or gl-117, both great free games that support it
[01:08] <flipstar> mixed: try http://www.getdeb.net/app/FlightGear
[01:09] <mixed> nosrednaekim, I will do that, I supposed asking for a game that was supported for a joystick was too much to ask LoL  thanks, let me install those gamez
[01:09] <Goop2> when I try to launch X it says it can't find a screen
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> Goop2: did it work previously?
[01:10] <Goop2> yes
[01:10] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim>: i added the repo. i am still getting "couldn't find package kde4-core "
[01:10] <PhilGold> nosred, is that for me?
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: if it starts with your name, yes :)
[01:11] <Goop2> nosrednaekim: I had it working, but I uninstalled the glx driver to install the official nVidia driver
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> Goop2: ah... ok, run
[01:11] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim>: it is downloading something... i think it is updating
[01:11] <flipstar> Goop2: just run nvidia-xconfig
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> Goop2: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:12] <PhilGold> sorry, lagged.  running startx now
[01:12] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim> : would it remove kdebase-bin-kde3?
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: it will probably error out..
[01:12] <flipstar> shenthil: no it wont
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: its installing a more kde4 freindly verson of kde3 libs
[01:12] <Goop2> I couldn't get the drivers to install.. it said something about not having the kernal source
[01:12] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim>: it said so...
[01:12] <PhilGold> i have a solid black screen now, doesn't sound like the HD is spinning.
[01:12] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim>: still am gonna try
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: ok... try "ctrl+alt+f1" or f2
[01:13] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim>: it is now saying: some packages cannot be authenticated. is it ok?
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: thats fine and normal
[01:13] <PhilGold> no response from either.
[01:13] <shenthil>  <nosrednaekim> : :-) it iis downloading
[01:13] <flipstar> Goop2: while nvidia driver install ?
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: try "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[01:14] <ice_> sorry net cut off
[01:14] <PhilGold> no response.
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> Goop2: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:14] <Goop2> flipstar: yes. It said it couldn't install because of it
[01:14] <Ice-DraVen> sorry about that net went out
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: Ice-DraVenNP..... did you do that?
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> (with the cd and media:/)
[01:15] <Ice-DraVen> didnt get any messages since i said sounds like a good idea
[01:15] <Goop2> nosrednaekim: thanks. I'll write this stuff down
[01:16] <PhilG> cntrl+alt+backspace, yes.  No response.
[01:16] <PhilG> Sorry, I seem to be lagging a bit here.
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> PhilG: oops... that message WASN't for you.. :)
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> Ice-DraVen: ah.. ok..pop in a CD , open konqueror, and put media:/ into the location bar
[01:17] <Ice-DraVen> kk will try
[01:18] <PhilG> l
[01:18] <Ice-DraVen> just the hd
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> PhilG: try pressing "alt+sysrq+e"
[01:19] <shenthil> nosred: should i be installing xserver-xephyr too?
[01:19] <PhilG> no response, but it's a laptop, sysrq is a secondary function of delete, and requires a fn key to be pressed at the same time.
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> mmm ok
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: no..t hats not neccesary
 i got an error !!! it said, "error were encountered while processing"
[01:22] <flipstar> did you removed the old kde4 packages before ?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> PhilG: what laptop exactly is it?
, <flipstar>: yes, i did.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: any specifics in the error? like what package?
[01:23] <joao_> geed evening
[01:23] <joao_> can any1 assist me in something?
 it is the unpacking of kde4-core followed by kde-icons-oxygen
[01:23] <PhilG> test
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> PhilG: yes...
[01:24] <Ice-DraVen> Didn't work just displayed my hd
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> Ice-DraVen: ok... run "dmesg" from a konsole and pastebin the last 30 lines or so
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
 i think i screwed it up... am not sure what is happening here.
[01:25] <Ice-DraVen> so in console just put dmesg ?
[01:25] <bmk789> what does "No tracks to verify found" mean coming from K3B?  im trying to verify the data after burning the DVD but ive gotten this error three times
[01:25] <Ice-DraVen> and how do i copy/paste from console
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Ice-DraVen: highlight, right click and copy
[01:26] <flipstar> just select and then right click
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> in a konsole
[01:26] <flipstar> or dmesg >file
[01:27] <Ice-DraVen> wait so i dont use the alt + ctrl + f3 console?
[01:27] <PhilGold> sorry, crashed mIRC.
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) is the error message
[01:27]  * PhilGold wonders how that happened.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: ok... anything before that?
[01:28] <shenthil> nosrednaekim:" trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/servicetypes/terminalemulator.desktop', which is also in package kde4base-data"
[01:28] <PhilGold> I'
[01:28] <PhilGold> I'm still at that unresponsive blank screen....any ideas?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: ermm... reboot? what exact model of laptop is this?
[01:29] <Ice-DraVen> ran it keeps saying "Loading R300 Microcode, agpgart found an agp 3.0 complain device at 0000:00:00:0
[01:29] <flipstar> PhilGold: you tried the rescue mode ?
[01:31] <shenthil> nosrednaekim: should i restart and then try?
[01:31] <Ice-DraVen> im here just keep getting errors lol
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: no...
 what should i do then?
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> Ice-DraVen: no... you can just open a virtual console from the start menu ;)
[01:32] <Ice-DraVen> did that :)
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> shenthil: you apparently still have some kde4 packages still on your sytem
[01:32] <Ice-DraVen> Gave me a huge speil about it being found at 0000:00:00:0 :P
[01:32] <PhilGold> I have to boot in rescue mode to get to the command prompt
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> uhh sorry everyone.... I have to go for a bit...may be back in a few.....
[01:33] <bmk789> what does "No tracks to verify found" mean coming from K3B?  im trying to verify the data after burning the DVD but ive gotten this error three times
[01:33] <flipstar> PhilGold: okay enter init 3 then and type X
[01:33] <shenthil> nosred: thanks for ur help though
[01:33] <Ice-DraVen> my console keeps telling me im not root :S
[01:36] <Ice-DraVen> ran it keeps saying "Loading R300 Microcode, agpgart found an agp 3.0 complain device at 0000:00:00:0
[01:36] <MaskedOne> which color setting changes the color of the text in the minimized window text in the kicker?
[01:36] <joao_> can any1 help me to configure my network adapter?
[01:37] <PhilGold> Ok, did reboot, selected the recovery option, am at prompt.
[01:38] <PhilGold> HP Pavilion dv6000.  Amd turion 64 (single core), 512 mb ram, nvidia go 6150 chipset/graphics with 128mb vid ram (shared system ram)
[01:39] <PhilGold> have kubuntu OS installed on a 10g partition, with another 1g partition for swap.  WinXP (OS that came with the laptop) is on it's own partition.
[01:41] <Ice-DraVen> FSDevice has no dev=...entry :S
[01:42] <flipstar> PhilGold: you now have the command prompt in front of you ?
[01:45] <PhilGold> test
[01:47] <rhino7> i've got some good black dvds rws but it's not reading do you know if i should return them to the store? is it driver problem? i broke them from package
[01:48] <PhilGold> i have command prompt now
[01:48] <PhilGold> sorry for delays, I've never seen irc lag like this.
[01:48] <PhilGold> everything is showing up in batches every few minutes.
[01:48] <flipstar> okay now type init 3
[01:48] <flipstar> and then X
[01:48] <PhilGold> init 3 x
[01:49] <PhilGold> or init 3 <enter> x <enter>
[01:49] <snarkster> can we make links in pdfs that work or do we need adobe acrobat to do that?
[01:49] <flipstar> init 3 <enter>
[01:49] <PhilGold> k
[01:49] <flipstar> then X
[01:50] <goop2> that stuff didn't work for me
[01:50] <goop2> I still can't get X going
[01:50] <snarkster> i didnt think init 3 worrked on ubuntu
[01:50] <goop2> or install the nVidia drivers
[01:50] <flipstar> for me it always did ..
[01:51] <PhilGold> got 'sending term signal', sending kill signal, ran through a bunch of stuff too fast to follow, and now i'm at the 'black screen of death'
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: let me look at other people who have installed linux on your computer...
[01:51] <flipstar> ouch
[01:51] <PhilGold> k
[01:52] <PhilGold> I have a sinking feeling from previous attempts to update drivers under winxp that I may have a hardware/driver problem.
[01:52] <redblacktree> I am looking for help with getting my wireless adapter working in Gutsy.  I have an RT2500 based card.  It was working *once*, but I haven't been able to get back to that point since a restart.  To be honest, I'm not really sure where to start in asking the question.  This is my first serious linux install (that I am determined to keep).
[01:53] <PhilGold> I noticed that on startup kubuntu says it's loading drivers, but according to HP and Nvidia, HP has a custom driver for my chipset, due to it being on a laptop, which they have not bothered updating in awhile.
[01:53] <katanachisito> nas jamie1911
[01:53] <katanachisito> nas bbm4n
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> PhilGold: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hp_dv6000_series_(dv6116eu)
[01:53] <redblacktree> Probably the best clue I have is that in kwlan, I can view the wpa_supplicant log, and it repeats two lines like this:
[01:53] <katanachisito> nas g2g591
[01:54] <PhilGold> going
[01:54] <redblacktree> " Trying to associate with SSID 'linksys_SES_44932' "
[01:54] <g2g591> katanachisito: sup , no idea what nas means though
[01:54] <redblacktree> " Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out. "
[01:55] <bbm4n> does anyone here knows a battlestar galactica channel?
[01:55] <katanachisito> nas nosredna_ekim
[01:56] <Ice-DraVen> any more advise on my cddrive issue? still not working
[01:56] <katanachisito> nas Max-P
[01:56] <Max-P> Hi, I think I have a big problem =/
[01:56] <nosredna_ekim> !cdrom | Ice-DraVen
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <katanachisito> nas terryd_
[01:57] <Max-P> I am updating to Gutsy but the distribution updater look like if it is stuck
[01:58] <nosredna_ekim> Max-P: ok.. if ti really is.. its not a hge problem, you can continue from the command line
[01:58] <Ice-DraVen> checking factoids now then :P
[01:58] <Max-P> It say "Preparing the configuration of livc6" for about 20 minutes
[01:58] <Max-P> Not crashed, but it doesn't do anything
[01:58] <nosredna_ekim> Max-P: hmmm kill it...
[01:58] <Max-P> ok
[01:59] <rhino7> hello? why isn't my gparted working and keeps on searching for hard drives. i have vbox
[01:59] <Max-P> I have 2 process
[01:59] <nosredna_ekim> Max-P: then run from the command line "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:59] <Max-P> I kill both?
[02:00] <nosredna_ekim> Max-P: yeah
[02:00] <Max-P> Killed
[02:00] <Max-P> now i have
[02:00] <Max-P> a lot of errors in the terminal
[02:00] <nosredna_ekim> !adeptfix
[02:00] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:01] <PhilGold> Nosred, are you by chance looking at the hp dv6000 series wiki entry still?
[02:01] <nosredna_ekim> Ice-DraVen: yeah... IDK... you might have an unsupported CD drive
[02:01] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: yeah.. and I found your problem.
[02:01] <Max-P> I did apt-get install -f install, look like working
[02:02] <PhilGold> there you have to add to the boot thing (press e at grub screen)?
[02:02] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: no... a bit simpler than that....
[02:02] <PhilGold> Oh, please, do tell.
[02:02] <PhilGold> I was about to ask you to explain the section under 'installed but not booting' a little better.
[02:03] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: if you are back at the rescue prompt, run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:03] <Ice-DraVen> gigabyte unsupported?
[02:03] <PhilGold> give me a sec to get there.
[02:03] <nosredna_ekim> Ice-DraVen: dunno
[02:03] <Max-P> nosredna_ekim: Think it works, thanks
[02:04] <PhilGold> It's got to run the forced check to get there.
[02:04] <flipstar> good nite everyone
[02:04] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: right...
[02:04] <PhilGold> nite flip, thanks for help.
[02:04] <goop2> I still can't get X working
[02:04] <Ice-DraVen> Any more ideas on the msn issue i have gaim but getting write & read errors
[02:04] <rhino7> what happened to this channel?
[02:05] <CrazyWulf> Hmm.... So I just installed KDE 4.0, but it doesn't list any applications under the main menu, only thing listed under applications is for settings
[02:05] <nosredna_ekim> CrazyWulf: #kubuntu-kde4
[02:07] <user__> hi all.  anyone know what port Subversion (SVN) uses to  download?
[02:07] <user__> i have an iptables script that i must disable any time i want to check out with SVN
[02:09] <nosredna_ekim> user__: no idea.
[02:10] <nosredna_ekim> Ice-DraVen: nope....
[02:10] <user__> nosredna_ekim: me neither... one site says port 80, which i obviously have whitelisted, but it mentions Port 81 as well. I'll try that.  BTW, what's up with the underscore?
[02:11] <nosredna_ekim> user__: I got disconnected... so this is my backup nick when the other is taken (by the other me) and yeah.. i'm too lazy to gost
[02:12] <PhilGold> nosred, i ran it....have warning about being carefull changing this file, and various options
[02:12] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok... scroll down do the "section Device"
[02:12] <nosredna_ekim> there should be a sub-option "Driver"
[02:12] <user__> mike: i c... i have changed my iptables config, going to restart x
[02:13] <PhilGold> section 'InputDevice'?
[02:14] <PhilGold> section device
[02:14] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: farther down...
[02:14] <PhilGold> identifier generic video card, driver vesa
[02:15] <nosredna_ekim> meh.... thought that might be the problem....
[02:15] <nosredna_ekim> :(
[02:15] <PhilGold> oddly enough, me too
[02:16] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok... lets try installing the official nvidia drivers.
[02:16] <nosredna_ekim> exit that file(ctrl+x)
[02:16] <PhilGold> but hey, at least i'm not at a blank black screen anymore.
[02:17] <nosredna_ekim> :)
[02:17] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok, first of all is this laptop attached to a wired network?
[02:18] <PhilGold> save modified buffer?
[02:18] <PhilGold> yes, it is a wired network, which due to furniture arrangement is causing no shortage of discomfort to me.
[02:19] <Max-P> (Updates are very long =/)
[02:19] <nano__> i installed all alsa packages from source, now im trying to install kdm from Adept, but Adept says that it also needs to install alsa-utils 1.0.13, but this version of alsa-utils is old and a newer version is already installed.  What should I do?
[02:19] <MaskedOne> wasnt paying attention did anyone answer my question about changing text color of a minimized to kicker window?
[02:20] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok.... run "sudo dhclient eth0" then to get a net connection..
[02:21] <PhilGold> k
[02:21] <PhilGold> no errors
[02:21] <nano__> anybody have any idea as to how i can solve my problem?
[02:22] <PhilGold> nano, I'm more lost than you.
[02:23] <PhilGold> Nosred, I believe I have a connection.
[02:23] <nano__> PhilGold: are you confused by my question, or are you confused by ubuntu in general?
[02:23] <PhilGold> Both.
[02:23] <nano__> :)
[02:28] <nano__> this place is dead
[02:30] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok
[02:30] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:31] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: sorry for taking so long..... real-life(tm) ?
[02:31] <fr0w> is there anyway to re-execute the hardware detection that is made during install?
[02:31] <nosredna_ekim> *....
[02:31] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: not that I know of..
[02:31] <fr0w> let's say i have 2 different computers
[02:31] <fr0w> i have installed everything i needed in one of them
[02:31] <fr0w> and i don't want to re-do everything in the other computer
[02:32] <fr0w> so i'd just clone the first hd
[02:32] <fr0w> and boot it in the second computer but it does not work
[02:32] <fr0w> due to some problems in hardware detection i guess
[02:33] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: boot failsafe mode?
[02:33] <fr0w> but then i'd have to boot in failsafe mode everytime?
[02:33] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: not neccesarily...
[02:33] <im-a-n00b> hey all... has anyone been able to use smb4k to connect to a vista box?
[02:33] <im-a-n00b> i can connect to xp boxes fine.. but it keeps asking for authentication on the vista ne. i have disabled the firewall and used everyone as the group that has read/write access
[02:34] <fr0w> im-a-n00b vista has a new protocol for a auth called NTLMv2
[02:34] <fr0w> and seems like samba does not support this properly i guess
[02:35] <fr0w> nosredna_ekim how come then? if i boot the failsafe mode what do i have to do to make the system "stable" again?
[02:35] <im-a-n00b> fr0w: 0_o... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! damn microsoft screwing stuff up again
[02:35] <PhilGold> reading package lists...Done
[02:35] <im-a-n00b> fr0w: lol, thanks.. been trying for a while wondering why i cant connect to it
[02:36] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: great...
[02:36] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: now run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[02:36] <fr0w> im-a-n00b i've experienced some problems with vista and samba but samba being a domain controler
[02:36] <fr0w> i wasn't able to test the shares
[02:36] <fr0w> but i guess they have pretty much the same problem
[02:36] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: do you have any idea what hardware exactly it is not detecting?
[02:37] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: video card?
[02:37] <im-a-n00b> fr0w: bummer.. i have 3 ubuntu file servers at work and we may be upgrading the clients to vista at some point
[02:37] <nosredna_ekim> im-a-n00b: use ultimate... so you can get NFS ;)
[02:37] <nano__> i installed the latest alsa from source and everything works great, but now im trying to install kdm but adept says that i have a missing dependency of some old alsa-utils pacakge (the newer version i have already installed).
[02:37] <fr0w> nosredna_ekim i'd bet the video card since it cannot display the gdm
[02:37] <nano__> If anybody could share some insight i would really appreciate it
[02:38] <im-a-n00b> nosredna_ekim: ultimate supports nfs???
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: run, from the command line "apt-get install -f kdm"
[02:38] <nano__> what will that do?
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: try putting the HD back in the old computer and changing the video driver to vesa
[02:38] <nano__> so it will install kdm and now worry about dealing with dependencies?
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: force it to install... ignoreing dependencies
[02:38] <nano__> sweet
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> (it should)
[02:38] <PhilGold> Nosred, I have apparently locked up while typing out the command
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: oh.. and run it as sudo
[02:39] <nano__> nosredna_ekim that is good to know, how come i can't accomplish that with adept
[02:39] <nano__> there is no such option or what?
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: before or after hitting enter
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: too advanced of an option
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: and not a good one to use all the time
[02:39] <fr0w> nosredna_ekim that would be the generic vga driver
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> nano__: but in this case its safe
[02:39] <fr0w> right?
[02:40] <nosredna_ekim> fr0w: right.
[02:40] <nano__> nosredna_ekim: thnk man
[02:40] <nano__> you have made my night
[02:40] <fr0w> al'right ima give it a shot
[02:40] <nano__> thnx and goodbye
[02:41] <PhilGold> should i do a manual reboot, or is there something else i can do?
[02:42] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: try "ctrl+c"
[02:42] <BluesKaj> im-a-n00b, maybe this will help : http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html
[02:42] <nosredna_ekim> BluesKaj: yay... getting a bit swamped here
[02:42] <westy_> hello room
[02:42] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: ok thanks :)
[02:43] <westy_> i am having a problem with my 26in screen not fitting correctly on my screen
[02:43] <westy_> i said that wrong
[02:43] <westy_> lol
[02:43] <BluesKaj> hi nosredna_ekim .., I'll be here for a little while :)
[02:43] <westy_> my desktop is not fitting on my screen i have a 26in
[02:45] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: anything?
[02:45] <PhilGold> Nosred, while still typing in...I actually typoed and tried to backspace to correct
[02:45] <BluesKaj> westy_, describe , "not fitting"
[02:46] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: i cant believe that, they default to using a security protocol that no one has used in years.. and has the potential to make all existing network storage devices redundant
[02:46] <PhilGold> i have to hold the laptop sideways so the ethernet and power cords both reach their respective plugs.
[02:46] <westy_> my screen size is suppose to be 1177x667 but it wont change to that its at 1280x1020
[02:47] <soulrider> hi BluesKaj
[02:47] <BluesKaj> im-a-n00b, that's the same ol' M$ doing their thing to force everyone to run their software :(
[02:48] <BluesKaj> hi soulrider
[02:48] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: lol true
[02:48] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: and?
[02:49] <nosredna_ekim> its still locked up?
[02:49] <westy_> i dont know if nvidia allows a appp to rescale my hd screen like win. does
[02:49] <BluesKaj> im-a-n00b, I'm not real knowledgeable about networking to vista
[02:49] <westy_> i installed gentoo but we wont go there it workd but wont work on my setup
[02:50] <BluesKaj> westy_, what drivers are you using on your graphics card and monitor ?
[02:50] <PhilGold> I'm still just sitting at that screen.
[02:50] <Svoda> I have one harddisk with 33 bad blocks (this number does not seem to increase with time, scanned several times).  If there are/will be no more bad sectors , will the install program automatically format the swap and ext3 partitions so that these sectors are avoided?
[02:50] <PhilGold> would you like me to do a manual reboot?
[02:51] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: yeah <_<
[02:52] <nosredna_ekim> Svoda: it should
[02:52] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: i much prefer xp to vista... and linux to xp.. only reason vista is on both of those laptops im building is because they came with vista, the rebuild cd is vista, and they play games that require direct x (only reason i still have an xp partition... which hasn't been booted in months (hope it doesnt rust in that section of the disk lol))
[02:52] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: and run that command when you reboot
[02:52] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: going to try what the article says now.. ill let u know how it goes :)
[02:53] <BluesKaj> im-a-n00b, good luck :)
[02:54] <westy_> BluesKaj: im using my graphic driver supported by ubuntu the nvidia gforce 7 series and my screen is using idk because its a tv screen
[02:55] <BluesKaj> westy_, are you using the default nvidia restricted driver ?
[02:55] <westy_> no
[02:56] <BluesKaj> westy_, in some cases the restricted driver is better than the nvidia proprietary recommended one
[02:56] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: when you get back up run "sudo dhclient eth0" and then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[02:56] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone know how to switch the caps-lock with the ctrl key?
[02:56] <westy_> i've tried both
[02:56] <Doctor_Nick> using fancy linux trickery
[02:56] <Doctor_Nick> not the physical act of rewiring the keyboard
[02:57] <PhilGold> sorry crashed.
[02:57] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: ok sofar no good... but i figure it may need a reboot.. and even if that doesnt end up fixing it, it is a very good point to know when i have to deal with people having issues dealing with ntlm and ntlmv2
[02:57] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: when you get back up run "sudo dhclient eth0" and then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[02:57] <PhilGold> Nosred, I'm sitting frozen, before entering the last command.
[02:57] <PhilGold> k, I'll do a manual reboot
[02:57] <nosredna_ekim> yeah..
[02:57] <nosredna_ekim> is this the SECOND time it crashed?
[02:57] <nosredna_ekim> or did you never do a reboot..
[02:57] <Newboid> Hi all, running a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 4... apps requiring an "su" won't accept my password. Anyone know what to do?
[02:58] <westy_> brb gota restart x
[02:58] <nosredna_ekim> Newboid: yeah... run them from the comand line with "kdesudo appname"
[02:58] <nosredna_ekim> Newboid: its a known issue that is going to be fixed
[02:59] <meiokilo> eae
[03:00] <Newboid> Nosredna_ekim, thanks very much... just trying to get in to add another account for my wife.
[03:01] <Newboid> Nosredna_ekim -- I had to apt-get to install kdesudo. When I "kdesudo kuser-kde4" I get a bunch of error messages -- "authentication rejected" etc.
[03:01] <nosredna_ekim> Newboid: oh.. are you on gutsy?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Doctor_Nick, system settings/regional&language/keyboard layout/Xkb options
[03:01] <PhilGold> could not find package
[03:01] <Doctor_Nick> coo
[03:01] <PhilGold> said E: could not find package.
[03:01] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: oh.... great......
[03:01] <whabo> hello ... is there a way to remove compiz from command line? coz i chose compiz 3D settings and now my screen is black and i can only see my mouse ..anyone? thx .. plz HELP
[03:01] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: more config file editing...
[03:01] <PhilGold> you sound thrilled
[03:01] <rhino7> i think slackware users are about to hack me. help me please
[03:02] <Doctor_Nick> sweet
[03:02] <Doctor_Nick> thanks
[03:02] <Newboid> nosredna_ekim -- yes, I'm using the download of Kubuntu 7.10 ISO file with KDE4 set up already... like the look and feel better than regular Ubuntu 7.10 that I used in the past (I think) but things like this are driving me crazy?
[03:02] <Newboid> So I'm not a total Ubuntu newbie but things like this are beyond me.
[03:03] <PhilGold> k, just let me know
[03:04] <smith__> rhino7: you can troll better than that
[03:05] <rhino7> smith__> no seriously i think those guys are the real hackers
[03:05] <nosredna_ekim> Newboid: oh... ok, well the first thing I reccomend is installing all of kde3 with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" it will give you some needed apps and such
[03:05] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: ok, run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:07] <regeya> heh, I just saw an article claiming that canonical(sp) just "killed" kde b/c kde4 will not make it into the next lts
[03:07]  * regeya already closed the window, it was a crap article
[03:08] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: fid the line that says "deb <url here> gutsy main restricted"
[03:08] <nosredna_ekim> there may be a # mark in front of it...
[03:09] <BluesKaj> regeya, Hardy will not be receiving LTS due to KDE4 not being real ready for prime time
[03:09] <PhilGold> the file is blank
[03:10] <BluesKaj> once kde4 is ready then the next RC will get LTS from reading between the lines IMO.
[03:10] <PhilGold> it pulled up, but there is nothing there.
[03:10] <Willabee> I'm having trouble with my microphone
[03:10] <Willabee> on windows it gets sound perfectly
[03:11] <Willabee> but I almost have to scream into the mic on kubuntu for it to get sound
[03:11] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: 0.o......
[03:11] <BluesKaj> Willabee, do you have you mic ctrl unmuted in alsamixer ?
[03:11] <Willabee> nothing muted
[03:12] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: you sure its blank? if so.... you have a seriously messed up installation..
[03:12] <BluesKaj> turned up to 71%?
[03:13] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: double check that you type the right command...
[03:16] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: so far hasnt worked :( im still googling for the answer
[03:17] <Willabee> turned mic up to max and still the same
[03:18] <BluesKaj> im-a-n00b, i'm not surprised :(
[03:18] <BluesKaj> Willabee, have you checked kmix switches tab
[03:19] <Willabee> if it matters
[03:20] <Willabee> I'm doing rosetta stone through Shockwave on firefox through WINE
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Willabee, I have no idea what you just said ...a game ?
[03:21] <Willabee> Rosetta Stone is a language thing
[03:21] <Willabee> and part of it is comparing voice
[03:21] <Willabee> since there isn't shockwave support on linux, I run it through WINE
[03:23] <nosredna_ekim> PhilGold: hey... sorry, I have to go.... I think your install is totally messed up though...
[03:23] <BluesKaj> well, this old guy is getting tired .. off to bed , nite all
[03:23] <nosredna_ekim> night :)
[03:24] <Willabee> I just turned mic boost on and it works now
[03:25] <snarkster> does anyone know if i make a pdf in openoffice if i can make functional links
[03:25] <nosredna_ekim> snarkster: probably
[03:25] <snarkster> ok thank you
[03:31] <im-a-n00b> BluesKaj: fixed.... damn windows redundant security that only works when u dont want it to
[03:31] <nosredna_ekim> im-a-n00b: lol
[03:33] <im-a-n00b> ok.. so besides having to turn the firewall off (as it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt... and sometimes works so well that nothing works), and sharing a folder, and giving everyone access to write to it, you then have to go into the control panel, and then network and sharing center, to change a totally redundant option of password protection sharing to off (its on by default)
[03:34] <im-a-n00b> now.. why would u need to have it still password protected if your going to give every bob and his dog (everyone) read and write access anyway
[03:34] <im-a-n00b> *end rant
[03:39] <ubuntu_> okay
[03:39] <ubuntu_> that sucks
[03:39] <ubuntu_> its me westy
[03:40] <ubuntu_> how do you go about reconfiguring xserver while its crashed and wont boot
[03:40] <sonoftheclayr> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <sonoftheclayr> i think
[03:41] <ubuntu_> i installed the wrong driver for my card and thats what did tit
[03:41] <ubuntu_> well i went from propritary to standard
[03:41] <ubuntu_> lol
[03:41] <sonoftheclayr> Yeah that's the command
[03:41] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:41] <ubuntu_> ill try that
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> just make sure you select the right driver when it asks you what driver you want.
[03:42] <ubuntu_> i did
[03:42] <ubuntu_> but im having a problem with my desktop and fitting on my screen
[03:42] <ubuntu_> well
[03:43] <ubuntu_> it fits just to the left to far and up to down to far
[03:44] <thechris> i need to install 64bit kubunutu without a CD
[03:44] <thechris> and the livecd image doesn't work
[03:44] <ubuntu_> brb
[03:45] <stdin> !install | thechris, see these links
[03:45] <ubotu> thechris, see these links: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[03:46] <rhino7> i think windows vista is more powerful than any linux
[03:46] <stdin> !ot | rhino7
[03:46] <ubotu> rhino7: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:46] <fignew> troof
[03:47] <thechris> stdin: ok, that didn't work
[03:47] <thechris> thats why i'm here
[03:47] <stdin> which did you try?
[03:48] <thechris> the InstallFromLinux
[03:48] <thechris> worsk with 32b, not 64b
[03:48] <thechris> the 64b image hangs before boot
[03:48] <thechris> not a kernel panic
[03:49] <stdin> is that with the desktop or alternate image?
[03:49] <thechris> desktop
[03:49] <thechris> though i don't see how that really matters.
[03:50] <stdin> try with the alternate image, it's less complex (so less can go wrong)
[03:50] <thechris> does the alternate has a different kernel?
[03:50] <thechris> if not i can't see it helping.
[03:50] <stdin> it loads it differently
[03:50] <stdin> the desktop system actually "boots" twice
[03:51] <stdin> once to load the image on the CD and once to actually boot the compressed image
[03:51] <thechris> yeah, i don't get past the first "boot"
[03:52] <rhino7> what is the difference between linux kernal and actual linux distros?
[03:52] <thechris> i never get to the point where "root" is mounted, and ubunutu's init takes over
[03:53] <stdin> thechris: the alternate cd just mounts an initramfs, can't hurt to try it
[03:53] <thechris> rhino7: distros tend to direct how software is installed, and how the system is configured, wheras the kernel defines how the HW works with the OS
[03:53] <stdin> rhino7: the distribution is the kernel and software tools
[03:54] <thechris> (simple explaination)
 how come someone hasn't made dlinux? is linux technologically advanced? what are some alternative to linux? is linux the best?
[03:56] <thechris> dlinux?
[03:56] <stdin> !ot | rhino7, ask in -offtopic
[03:56] <ubotu> rhino7, ask in -offtopic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:59] <rhino7> who is better solaris free bsd or linux?
[04:01] <apparle> hello
[04:02] <apparle> I want to install mplayer, should I download mplayer or kmplayer
[04:03] <stdin> apparle: kmplayer is not mplayer
[04:04] <apparle> ten what is kmplayer
[04:04] <stdin> it's another alternative
[04:04] <stdin> it can use mplayer as it's backend
[04:05] <apparle> my kaffiene and amarok play some wav files and .mov files in steps. what should I do
[04:05] <stdin> if you want a good GUI to mplayer, try smplayer
[04:05] <fignew> smplayer is amazing :)
[04:06] <thechris> anyone know what ramdisk_size should be for a 64b install?
[04:06] <thechris> i'm wondering if my install image needs a different sized ramdisk_size
[04:07] <stdin> should be the same on 32bit as 64bit
[04:08] <thechris> what is the units?  bytes
[04:09] <stdin> I think so yes
[04:09] <apparle> stdin: I want a good player with small number of dependencies
[04:10] <jhutchins> thechris: I don't think install uses a ramdisk.  Do you mean swap space?
[04:10] <stdin> apparle: all smplayer needs is mplayer and Qt4, you should already have Qt4 installed
[04:10] <thechris> jhutchins: the install docs for "install from linux" give a ramdisk_size kernal argument
[04:10] <jhutchins> thechris: Oh, kubuntu, you're installing from the live CD running in ramdisk.
[04:11] <jhutchins> thechris: In any case, 64 vs 32 shouldn't matter.
[04:11] <jhutchins> where and how does your install fail?
[04:14] <apparle> stdin: I will give it a try. Can I change the icon of Kmenu
[04:14] <Kevin__> hello when I try to install from in windows it shows the launching brouser then disappears when I try to boot it from a reboot I click on install and it shows an error with reading it
[04:15] <stdin> apparle: you can, but it requires renaming the old icon and putting a new one in with the same name as the old one
[04:17] <Kevin__> anyone know why it would have problems when I try to install kubuntu?
[04:19] <apparle> stdin: Where is the icon which I should rename
[04:20] <ol_dude67> Kevin__, what error does it give you?
[04:20] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜  /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/XxY/apps/kmenu.png i'de recon
[04:21] <Kevin__> error reading boot image
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> of course, crystalsvg would be different if your using another icon theme
[04:21] <Kevin__> and yet it seems to show when I go through my computer on windows
[04:22] <ol_dude67> Kevin__, did you burn it to disk as an iso?"
[04:22] <Kevin__> yes
[04:22] <ol_dude67> did you check the disk?
[04:22] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: what if the icon gets deleted or just renamed
[04:22] <Kevin__> yes
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ then it won't be displayed in the kicker
[04:22] <Kevin__> when I opened it in windows right now
[04:23] <Kevin__> it brings up the original loading browser image
[04:23] <Kevin__> and thats it
[04:23] <apparle> sub[t]rn:but will the menu work
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[04:24] <sub[t]rnl> at least it should (i've never renamed the icon personally)
[04:24] <apparle> sub[t]rn: and for the replacement icon is there a size limit etc
[04:25] <sub[t]rnl> the sizes in the /usr/share/icons/ correspond to the tiny,small,normal,large settings of the control panel I'm assuming
[04:25] <sub[t]rnl> 16x16,22x22,32x32 etc...
[04:25] <reaperdragon> hey i just installed kubuntu 7.10 how do i get super karamba
[04:25] <ol_dude67> Kevin__, you cant open it in windows. it has to boot with it, if it says its not a boot disk or come up saying install kubuntu or ubuntu then you either got a bad download or a bad burn.
[04:26] <sub[t]rnl> !info superkaramba > reaperdragon
[04:26] <Kevin__> ok I'll try another burn but
[04:26] <Kevin__> but
[04:26] <apparle> stdin: which one is better mplayer or vlc
[04:26] <Kevin__> it actually shows the welcome screen
[04:26] <Kevin__> when I boot from cd when I reboot
[04:26] <stdin> apparle: try both, see what you like
[04:26] <ol_dude67> Kevin__, ok it says install?
[04:26] <Kevin__> yes
[04:26] <Kevin__> once I click that
[04:27] <Kevin__> thats where the error comes in
[04:27] <ol_dude67> Kevin__, try installing with safe video mode
[04:27] <reaperdragon> ty
[04:27] <Kevin__> rgr will do
[04:27] <dustin> Hey guys.  I finally have my wireless working, but for some reason it doesn't work right after a computer restart unless I run : "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"  Does anyone have any ideas why this is and how I can resolve it?
[04:27] <apparle> stdin: I am talking about memory usage and stability
[04:28] <eric_> hello
[04:28] <eric_> anyone using a kn8 mb
[04:28] <stdin> apparle: vlc is probably a bit bigger memory wise, but both are stable
[04:29] <apparle> stdin: which one handles more formats
[04:31] <jimmy51> hello, is there a library i can download so amarok will play *.ram audio files?
[04:32] <apparle> jimmy51: is ram format of real player
[04:32] <stdin> apparle: both handle the same formats if the codecs are installed
[04:33] <jimmy51> apparle: i believe so
[04:33] <reaperdragon> onfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:33] <reaperdragon> any advice
[04:33] <reaperdragon> ?
[04:33] <apparle> stdin: I will give smplayer atry
[04:34] <jimmy51> apparle: it looks like some files are *.ram and some are *.rm... maybe they're mis-named, extension wise
[04:35] <apparle> jimmy51: It is funny but I don't think you can get the codecs of real media for xine engine. Do you have the real player installed?
[04:36] <jimmy51> apparle:  i sure don't.  i've never much cared for it, even under windows.  i was hoping amarok could handle them but i suppose they're closed source formats
[04:37] <snarkster> does anyone know what making /dev/virtualbox writable means?
[04:37] <snarkster> Im usiing virtualbox 1.5.2
[04:38] <dustin> ok, how about a good place to run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" on boot?
[04:38] <apparle> jimmy51: they are closed source but there is a way to get them work
[04:38] <rhino7> what is an alternate partition manager than gparted?
[04:38] <apparle> rhino7: qtparted
[04:38] <snarkster> qtparted
[04:39] <jimmy51> apparle: is it a short simple process?
[04:39] <apparle> jimmy51: it is a complicated way
[04:39] <jimmy51> apparle:  eh, i'll just install the player.  hopefully it will let me convert them to something more useful
[04:40] <snarkster> jimmy51: what kinda file?
 "dependable is not satisfiable"
[04:40] <apparle> jimmy51: install the real player for linux. then I will tell you the next step
[04:40] <snarkster> oh .ram files..
[04:41] <apparle> rhino7: ehich one
[04:41] <apparle> jimmy51: Installed it??
[04:41] <jimmy51> apparle: working on it
[04:42] <snarkster> how do i make /dev/vboxdrv writeable
[04:42] <snarkster> oh i need to log out
[04:43] <jimmy51> apparle: ok, i've downloaded a *.bin file and can't figure out what to do with it
[04:43] <jimmy51> :(
[04:45] <apparle> !real
[04:45] <apparle> how do I get help from ubotu
[04:45] <apparle> jimmy51: run it in terminal
[04:45] <apparle> ubotu
[04:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:45] <rhino7> can someone help me create new unpartioned space with fdisk step by step please?
[04:45] <NickPresta> jimmy51, chmod +x FILE.bin && ./FILE.bin where FILE = the filename
[04:46] <boots> has anyone had any luck with the wusb54g networkcard in kubuntu
[04:47] <apparle> jimmy51: got it or should I explain in more detail
[04:48] <boots> i need some hwlp with wireless internet
[04:48] <jimmy51> NickPresta, apparle:  I think I've about got it installed.  It wanted to isntall to Desktop, which wasn't cool.  I'm trying to find a good place for it
[04:48] <NickPresta> jimmy51, what are you trying to install?
[04:49] <jimmy51> NickPresta: RealPlayer
[04:50] <apparle> jimmy51: Don't worry, we are going to remove real player. Just install it temporarily any where
[04:51] <jimmy51> apparle: ok, i think it's installed
[04:51] <apparle> I have the packages for fiesty. Will they work for gytsu
[04:51] <apparle> I have the packages for fiesty. Will they work for gutsy
[04:51] <jimmy51> apparle: i don't see it in the K menu, but there's a RealPlayer folder with stuff under it
[04:52] <apparle> jimmy51: Now go to the directory. Do you see a directory named codec
[04:52] <jimmy51> apparle: yup
[04:52] <boots> can anyone help me
[04:52] <reaperdragon> superkaramba is installed but it wont let me configure any of the themes
[04:52] <jimmy51> apparle: there are several *.so files under "codecs"
[04:53] <apparle> jimmy51: Copy the 'codecs' directory ro any suitable place
[04:53] <apparle> jimmy51: Copy the 'codecs' directory to any suitable place
[04:54] <jimmy51> apparle: like this?  sudo cp ./codecs /home/aslanteigne/desktop/codecs
[04:55] <apparle> jimmy51: I am not good at commands. Right click on the folder >"copy" and then paste it any where you want
[04:55] <jimmy51> apparle: nevermind, i just used dolphin to copy them
[04:55] <apparle> jimmy51: now start kaffiene
[04:55] <jimmy51> apparle: started
[04:56] <apparle> go to tools menu> xine engine parameters
[04:57] <apparle> wait a minute. First of all run the real player from where ever you have installed and check if you can play the file in it
[04:59] <jimmy51> apparle: SWEET!  playing in kaffeine!  thanks for the help!
[05:00] <apparle> jimmy51: How come We have not done anything
[05:00] <apparle> jimmy51: check in amarok
[05:01] <jimmy51> apparle: sorry, i clicked ahead and found a place to enter the path to the codecs.  i placed them in usr/lib/realcodecs, then typed that path in kaffiene's decoder settings
[05:02] <apparle> jimmy51: that was what I was about to tell. Smart  8-) Now you may remove real player
[05:03] <jimmy51> apparle:  ok, thanks.  is there a clean way to remove... or just rm RealPlayer folder?
[05:03] <apparle> jimmy51: that is the cleanest way
[05:04] <jimmy51> apparle:  ok.  man, still not playing in amarok though.
[05:04] <jimmy51> apparle: at least not via URL
[05:04] <apparle> jimmy51: It is playing if you enter the file directly??
[05:05] <jimmy51> apparle:  nope, not local either
[05:05] <apparle> jimmy51: check in kaffiene
[05:05] <jimmy51> apparle:  so far just kaffeine likes the files.
[05:06] <apparle> jimmy51: kaffiene is playing but not amarok. that is really funny
[05:06] <apparle> jimmy51: both use the same engine
[05:07] <jimmy51> apparle:  yeah, it seems weird.  i'm noticing the *.RAM downloads are instant, so i think it just points to content online or something
[05:08] <apparle> jimmy51: I don't think so because the ram files are too small (compressed)
[05:09] <apparle> jimmy51:see if amarok can play any other real audio file like .ra or .ra
[05:10] <apparle> jimmy51: .rm
[05:11] <apparle> jimmy51: I just want to see if the codecs work for amarok or not
[05:11] <jimmy51> apparle: "There is no available decoder."  that's ok, i'll just use kaffiene for now.  i'll look into it further when it's not 6 hours until i clock in with no sleep yet  :)
[05:12] <apparle> jimmy51: ok
[05:12] <jimmy51> apparle: thanks for the help in getting it to play.  i liked a band back in high school and found one of the members hosts their music on a website and wanted to hear it since the CD's are out of print
[05:13] <jimmy51> apparle: a little nostalgia, now possible due to your help.  good night (or day or morning, depending on where you may be)!
[05:14] <apparle> jimmy51: good morning. here 10:45 AM
[05:17] <apparle> anybody here uses OSS sound deivers
[05:17] <apparle> anybody here uses OSS sound drivers
[05:18] <apparle> Can I remove ALSA drivers from my system
[05:27] <worstway> Hello
[05:29] <apparle> hi
[05:30] <slyboots> Hello :)
[05:31] <worstway> where are you from?
[05:31] <slyboots> .. Who? me?
[05:31] <worstway> y
[05:31] <slyboots> . . Uh.. Ireland?
[05:32] <worstway> nice to meet you
[05:32] <slyboots> Nice to meet you too
[05:32] <worstway> faraway
[05:32]  * slyboots is just thinking of trying out Kubuntu :) Im running Ubuntu right now, but Im just emerging the kubunut-desktop package 
[05:33] <worstway> ..
[05:33] <worstway> I am at Kubuntu
[05:33] <slyboots> Okay..
[05:33] <worstway> My msn   :L.GS@msn.com
[05:34] <worstway> Kubuntu is beatuful
[05:38] <apparle> I have a game (condion zero). Everything works fine. But I am unable to see any text what should I do
[05:39] <worstway> Oh I am new
[05:40] <worstway> My Kubuntu is fine
[05:43] <worstway> Hi slyboots
[05:43] <slyboots> Hey again
[05:43] <slyboots> Bit strange, My volume control buttons dont seem to work..
[05:44] <slyboots> Pressing them brings up the OSD volume control, but they only move between 0% and 11% and it has no actual control over the volume
[05:44] <worstway> sorry
[05:44] <worstway> my english is bad
[05:45] <worstway> I am use dict
[05:46] <NickPresta> worstway, what is your native language?
[05:46] <worstway> chinese
[05:46] <NickPresta> !cn
[05:46] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[05:46] <NickPresta> if you prefer
[05:47] <sigma> can the kppp dialer app run in gnome?
[05:47] <worstway> I want to study En
[05:48] <worstway> thank you
[05:50] <ol_dude67> worstway, i.m.
[05:51] <worstway> what is i.m?  MSN?
[05:51] <ol_dude67> personal message.
[05:52] <worstway> my msn :  L.GS@msn.com
[05:52] <apparle> by
[05:53] <worstway> what can we do in konversation
[05:54] <apparle> bye bye
[05:54] <worstway> bye bye
[05:54] <ol_dude67> worstway, is your name registered with irc?
[05:55] <sigma> konversation is a irc client
[05:55] <worstway> no
[05:55] <worstway> it is my first use irc\
[05:55] <sigma> kopete is the im client
[05:55] <ol_dude67> worstway then you can not get private messages you need to register with nickserv
[05:56] <sigma> gee the website mockups sure look enticing
[05:56] <worstway> register it? where
[05:56] <worstway> please give me a address
[05:57] <ol_dude67> brb , dogs have to go out.
[05:58] <reza> question
[05:58] <worstway> let me see
[05:59] <sigma> !register
[05:59] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:59] <worstway> think you!
[06:00] <reza> how can i modify /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab to be able to mount my backup drive?
[06:02] <Azt3c> i need someone that likes ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:05] <Azt3c> does anyone that knows their way around linux kubuntu willing to help?
[06:05] <reza> seconded
[06:05] <Azt3c> im searching for a mentor
[06:06] <NickPresta> Azt3c, just ask a question. We will try our best to help you
[06:07] <worstway> password
[06:07] <worstway> how to change my password?
[06:08] <ol_dude67> worstway try /msg nickserv help
[06:08] <Azt3c> tomorrow morning i have to go to prison for 2 years and I would like to continue educating myself and make the most of it.I need someone willing to mail me anything linux, namely ubuntu,kubuntu,etc
[06:08] <sigma> !ask
[06:08] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:08] <NickPresta> Azt3c, that is unfortunate. I'm sure there is a way you can ask someone you know to provide you with documentation and such so you can learn.
[06:09] <Azt3c> Im searching for a mentor,no there is nobody.ive been living in mexico for the last 4 years(peacefully)
[06:09] <sigma> Azt3c: what exactly did you do if i may ask?
[06:09] <Azt3c> smuggled a bunch of pot about 15 years ago
[06:10] <sigma> i see. and they only prosecute you now
[06:10] <sigma> check to see if theres a mexican loco team
[06:10] <sigma> im sure someone there can help u
[06:11] <Azt3c> my sons mother was killed and I had to return to care for him,thus violating my parole.Now I want to return and face the music,but id like to continue learning computing so that when i get out i can get a job maybe
[06:12] <Azt3c> im not going to be going to mexico im going to the U.S.
[06:12] <sigma> oh well in that case there is a US loco team, just ask in their irc room
[06:13] <cpk1> when I try to start dhcpd3 it fails and tail /var/log/syslog gives me No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0) and I cant figure out what it wants me to add...
[06:14] <Azt3c> i am kinda working against time,don't really know my way around this irc thing either.i spend 99% of my time on Berkley,or W3C. No time for chat:)
[06:14] <Azt3c> sorry to bother
[06:14] <sigma> go to ubuntuforums.org, the american team has a page in the loco team section
[06:14] <sigma> you can get their details from there
[06:15] <Azt3c> thank you
[06:29] <navetz> what can I use in ubuntu to do some webdesign with flash?
[06:31] <NickPresta> navetz, sadly, I don't think there is anything that resembles Flash MX or anything simlar in GNU+Linux
[06:31] <navetz> NickPresta: well this kinda really sucks
[06:31] <alev2477> hi
[06:31] <posingaspopular> hi alev2477
[06:32] <navetz> NickPresta: you wouldn't know how much memory is required to run flash in windows by any chance would you?
[06:32] <NickPresta> navetz, you can run Flash MX in Wine, I suppose. It has a gold rating, meaning it works > 90%
[06:32] <tyson_> hello!
[06:32] <navetz> NickPresta: oh that sounds great actually
[06:32] <navetz> NickPresta: thanks
[06:32] <NickPresta> navetz, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1027
[06:33] <tyson_> i am having a problem with grub. its misconfigured, but when i try to configure it correctly, it doesnt seem to save the settings i have specified, or perhaps i am setting them wrong
[06:33] <tyson_> in short, when grub loads, i have to edit the 'root' entry to specify the correct partition manually, and then it will boot
[06:34] <NickPresta> tyson_, edit your menu.lst. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:36] <tyson_> you da man
[06:38] <Zombocom> is there a package for 64 bit flash yet?
[06:39] <slyboots> nChrist KDE4 is weird
[06:39] <NickPresta> Zombocom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-38245bd46a3334b4cc11601e161ddaa63439d2db
[06:39] <NickPresta> Zombocom, The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:39] <Zombocom> I know I know
[06:39] <NickPresta> :)
[06:40] <Zombocom> nick that's been broken for a while
[06:40] <NickPresta> Zombocom, indeed.
[06:41] <Zombocom> flash is a pretty big deal
[06:41] <NickPresta> for some people, yeah.
[06:42] <Zombocom> if someone isn't a network administrator
[06:42] <Zombocom> they probably need flash
[06:43] <Lynoure> more like want.
[06:43] <NickPresta> Zombocom, I understand the frustration with the broken flash. There is an immediate fix, but it's best to wait for the official fix.
[06:43] <Lynoure> not that often a _need_.
[06:45] <slyboots> I thought Gnome was annoying, KDe is crap x.x
[06:45] <Zombocom> wtf slyboots
[06:46] <Zombocom> go back to your lulz
[06:46] <slyboots> I just installed it, its terrible x.x
[06:46] <Zombocom> troll
[06:46] <slyboots> Im not, Im just trying out KDE4 :(
[06:46] <NickPresta> slyboots, you're trying out KDE 4.0
[06:46] <Zombocom> kde4 is in beta
[06:46] <Zombocom> glitchy as hell
[06:46] <slyboots> It shows, I´ve... Torn the wallpaper on the desktop
[06:47] <NickPresta> slyboots, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
[06:47] <Zombocom> lol
[06:47] <slyboots> my webcam has stopped working, my keyboard keys dont work right x.x
[06:47] <rahmat> I lost my task bar in KDE 4. I have no idea how to get it back up
[06:47] <rahmat> hah
[06:47] <Lynoure> Zombocom: Released already, but yes, in Kubuntu beta (or is Hardy actually still in alpha?)
[06:47] <NickPresta> If you have a serious problem with KDE 4.0 that needs attending to, join #kubuntu-kde4
[06:48] <slyboots> I have, everyone is dead x.x
[06:48] <Zombocom> lol
[06:48] <slyboots> No doubt killed by KDE-4 :P
[06:48] <Zombocom> lol
[06:48] <Zombocom> sly
[06:48] <rahmat> funny :)
[06:48] <slyboots> Seriously though, how the hell do I.. reattach my desktop?
[06:48] <Zombocom> you're going to get me in trouble
[06:48] <Zombocom> duct tape
[06:48] <Zombocom> fixes everything
[06:48] <rahmat> how did you tear the wallpaper?
[06:48] <slyboots> There is a huge white border on the bottom left and right of the desktop
[06:49] <rahmat> hahah
[06:49] <slyboots> Í have no idea, I was moving icons around and it just.. shifted
[06:49] <slyboots> Now I cant figure out how I did it
[06:49] <Zombocom> did you try doing a barrel roll?
[06:49] <Zombocom> wait
[06:49] <Zombocom> that just avoids damage
[06:49] <NickPresta> !ot
[06:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:49] <Zombocom> you've already taken it
[06:49] <rahmat> eh, i lost my taskbar somehow when I changed my theme settings.
[06:50] <slyboots> I tried KDE3 but I was having a host of issues, for some weird reason the volume control on my laptop does not work :(
[06:50] <NickPresta> !doesn't work
[06:50] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:50] <slyboots> Anyway, Im going to rollback, I thought KDE4 was stable, I guess not
[06:51] <slyboots> NickPresta, Sorry.
[06:51] <Zombocom> slyboots it is because of furries
[06:51] <Zombocom> but anywho
[06:51] <sub[t]rnl> rahmat➜ right click on kicker, add applet, taskbar
[06:51] <Zombocom> when is this fix going to come out
[06:51] <NickPresta> There are fixes for almost every problem you can think of, especially something as common and needed as volume control :)
[06:51] <slyboots> On my Thinkpad R61, pressing the volume control buttons brings up the OSD but it only moves between 0% and 11% and has no bering on the actual PCM volume
[06:51] <NickPresta> Zombocom, when it's ready.
[06:52] <slyboots> Sound itself, if I use the .. kvol? application works fine,
[06:52] <Zombocom> OH GOD HOW DID THIS GET HERE
[06:52] <Zombocom> I AM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER
[06:52] <NickPresta> !tell Zombocom about caps
[06:53] <NickPresta> slyboots, I actually just fixed this yesterday on my desktop. Try this first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3444817&postcount=4
[06:53] <Zombocom> k
[06:58] <dhq> i use xfce i changed my resolution now my pc gets stuck how do i restoore it
[06:58] <anakin_> Hi, i am trying to install a new graphics card, so after rebooting it, do I have to do the whole X configuration bit?
[06:58] <anakin_> something along the lines of `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh`?
[06:59] <anakin_> i mean -phi?
[07:00] <NickPresta> anakin_, if your new card is going into exactly the same slot and uses exactly the same driver and such, you might be able to get away with doing nothing. You will probably have a broken X configuration after you install it, meaning a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` will probably be needed
[07:01] <anakin_> oh, well, i am changing from the wretched on board  card to an nvidia geforce8 card. let me reboot and see what happens. see you in a bit. thanks.
[07:02] <rc-1> Hi, there was no driver for my printer (Lexmark 2500) in the default database and http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-2500 s download links are dead, where should I look next? thanx
[07:03] <jussi01> rc-1: download works fine here
[07:03] <jussi01> rc-1: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=pbm2l2030&fromprinter=Lexmark-2500
[07:04] <alexbobp> I just booted my computer after resizing some partitions and tried to log in to kdm.  When my main account logs in with any window manager (kde or gnome), the screen goes black for a second and then goes back to the login screen.  startx shows a black screen and then terminates.  Other accounts can log in fine.  What can cause this?
[07:04] <slyboots> Okay, the OSD does not come up, but Vol up and down now works and mute is broken lol
[07:05] <rc-1> An error occurred while loading http://home.t-online.de/home/paetzold-net/page_004.html:
[07:05] <jussi01> alexbobp: sounds like you applied a bad theme or something
[07:06] <jussi01> rc-1: still having trouble getting that driver? pm me your email and Ill email ti to you
[07:06] <NickPresta> slyboots, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118723  Near the bottom, there is a link to a kmilo deb with the patch applied. The comment is #27 and this is the link (http://kenny-x.student.utwente.nl/stuff/kmilo_3.5.6-0ubuntu2_i386.deb)
[07:07] <NickPresta> slyboots, install that via `sudo dpkg -i kmilo_3.5.6-0ubuntu2_i386.deb`
[07:07] <alexbobp> jussi01: Gnome won't work either, and I haven't applied any themes anyway
[07:07] <slyboots> NickPresta, Thank you :)
[07:07] <slyboots> You dont know how I can change my keyboard layout as well? Seems to be stuck under international so a lot of symbol keys dont work
[07:08] <slyboots> And I cant find the option under Keyboard Settings
[07:08] <NickPresta> slyboots, Region and Language > Keyboard Layout
[07:09] <slyboots> Ack, I was looking in the wrong area :)
[07:09] <slyboots> Fantastic! I can use @ and ' again :)
[07:12] <slyboots> Thank you NickPresta :)
[07:12] <NickPresta> slyboots, no problem :)
[07:23] <slyboots> Okay, installed the new.. old version of kmilo :)
[07:23] <slyboots> Restarting X :)
[07:24] <slyboots> ... or I could just restart kmilo :P
[07:24] <slyboots> Damn you windows..
[07:25] <slyboots> Fantastic, thats it working fine now :)
[07:25] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i wait 10 minutes
[07:27] <jussi01> sudoubungu: leave it for a while yet.
[07:28] <fignew> wow... Nokia just bought Trolltech
[07:29] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 35 minutesgparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 35 minutes
[07:30] <rc-1> fignew: how much for?
[07:31] <fignew> doesn't say http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236
[07:31] <rc-1> so, i installed my printer with the 2030 driver, its a 2500, and sent a print job. it says stopped in the job list, papers loaded and all.  what to try?
[07:33] <slyboots> Sweet GOD!
[07:33] <slyboots> You can *remove* the border!
[07:33]  * slyboots bows before the greatness of KDE! and *weeps*
[07:33] <slyboots> Jesus, its been *months* I've been to get that feature on a media player
[07:34] <rc-1> http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_666676871_0_en,00.html doesnt even LIST linux at all lol
[07:34] <slyboots> rc-1, only savages and dirty commies use Linux
[07:34] <fignew> slyboots: what feature?
[07:35] <slyboots> fignew, the ability to have a borderless window, so now I have a free-floating mplayer video window :)
[07:35] <fignew> lol
[07:36] <slyboots> its a great feature, I could not figure out how to get it in gnome at all :P
[07:36] <slyboots> Though goin got have to get shot of konqurer in favor of firefox ;)
[07:37] <anakin_> Hello, i've installed a new graphics card, everything seems to be okay with the restricted drivers except that the resolution is much lower than it used to be on a crummy VIA on board card.
[07:38] <anakin_> so how do i get better screen resolutions?
[07:38] <NickPresta> anakin_, so you have your restricted nvidia driver?
[07:39] <anakin_> yep, for an nvidia geforce8 card
[07:39] <NickPresta> anakin_, see if you can adjust your resolution via `nvidia-settings`
[07:40] <rc-1> anakin_: you can always put it first in the lists of resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (back it up tho!)
[07:40] <slyboots> Oh, Is there a way I can enable true transparency in kterm? intead of that rubishy psudo-trans
[07:41] <rc-1> probly need compositing
[07:41] <anakin_> NickPresta: thanks, nvidia-settings has a tab for monitor/crt configuration
[07:41] <NickPresta> anakin_, it should work :)
[07:41] <slyboots> rc-1, Hm, I know I cant do that in Compiz, because my graphical chipset is blacklisted x.x
[07:41] <NickPresta> slyboots, you can enable transparency in KDE itself :)
[07:42] <slyboots> How do I enable that?
[07:43] <NickPresta> System Setting > Window Behavior > Translucency
[07:45] <NickPresta> slyboots, if you want it for just the terminal or other applications, go to the Window-Specific Settings and create a new rule for the application. Opacity is in the Preferences tab
[07:45] <slyboots> ...Does not seem to be working at all, no matter what percentage I select it never becomes transparent
[07:45] <NickPresta> slyboots, you have checked off "Use Translucency/Shadows" and have set a percent to less than 100%? You have Applied the settings?
[07:46] <Qrawl> !mysql
[07:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:46] <slyboots> Yup, everything is setup okay, its just not applying the effect
[07:47] <slyboots> Compiz does not work on this chipset, if that might be a factor? (It has weird issues with XV rendering)
[07:47] <NickPresta> slyboots, hmm. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you need to load up a fresh session of KDE? I don't remember...
[07:48] <slyboots> Worth a shot
[07:48] <sudoubungu> how long can you do a boring task that is wasting time etc?
[07:49] <NickPresta> sudoubungu, not long. I usually write a shell script to do it for me if it is that boring ;)
 what if that task meant life or death?
[07:50] <NickPresta> sudoubungu, then I would get off IRC and focus on the task at hand :)
[07:50] <sudoubungu> NickPresta> what if you had to do it for years?
[07:51] <sudoubungu> NickPresta> what if people stole your stuff while you were doing that task?
[07:51] <NickPresta> !tell sudoubungu about ot
[07:52] <sudoubungu> NickPresta> huh?
[07:53] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 37 days
[07:53] <slyboots> That seems to have enabled it ;)
[07:53] <NickPresta> sudoubungu, if you have waited that long to resize your partition, that would indicate a problem.
[07:53] <NickPresta> slyboots, so it works?
[07:54] <sudoubungu> NickPresta> :(
[07:54] <slyboots> Aye, Had to fiddle with the defaults but restarting got it going :)
[07:54] <NickPresta> slyboots, that's good
[07:55] <NickPresta> well, I'm off to bed. Goodnight #kubuntu
[07:55] <slyboots> Goodnight :)
[07:55] <slyboots> Thanks again for your help
[07:56] <serrucho> can somebody tell me what is better ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:56] <slyboots> serrucho, Matter of personal taste
[07:56] <jussi01> night NickPresta
[07:56] <slyboots> Its not a case of one been better than the other, fundamentally they are the same thing
[07:56] <serrucho> that`s  right
[07:57] <slyboots> If you have the hard-disk space, why not try both?
[07:57] <slyboots> Just install ubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <serrucho> I already have it like that
[07:58] <serrucho> a got the two versions
[07:58] <slyboots> Oh, well whatever one you like better, Thats the best.
[07:58] <sveakex> does java/jre work in konqueror? :s
[07:59]  * jussi01 endorses slyboots opinion there :)
[07:59] <slyboots> ... Hmm..
[07:59] <slyboots> Video playback has stopped working
[07:59] <jussi01> sveakex: I think so. do you have a problem?
[07:59] <slyboots> Correction, Video output from video playback has stopped working x.x
[08:00] <jussi01> sveakex: flash in konqueror is broken atm though.
[08:00] <sveakex> jussi01: yeah but i am not running kubuntu, i wanted to see if it supposed to be like this or not as everybody seems unsecure if it works or not
[08:00] <sveakex> supposed to work*
[08:00] <Lynoure> jussi01: it is? I have not noticed that...
[08:00] <Lynoure> jussi01: only if one installs from the packages, I guess...
[08:01] <slyboots> Feck, FECK
[08:01] <jussi01> Lynoure: I thought there was some issue with khtml and the _newest_ flash
[08:01] <slyboots> as I thought, Enabling transparency has broken XV rendering
[08:01] <slyboots> . you peice of crap Intel.. POS!
[08:01] <slyboots> I hate you! I *hateee* youuuu
[08:01] <Lynoure> jussi01: might be that I have slightly older flash, gotta check
[08:01] <sveakex> jussi01: you can have flash in kubuntu if you embed kmplayer in konqueror
[08:02]  * slyboots falls to his knees!
[08:02] <slyboots> Does KDE use compiz..?
[08:02] <sveakex> slyboots: if you install it, yes
[08:03] <slyboots> .. Ah, I need to remove that then, thats whats breaking XV rendering
[08:04] <jussi01> Lynoure: from the forums thread in the !flash factoid: The new version of Flash is incompatible with Konqueror because it requires XEmbed (Launchpad Bug# 174343). 9.0.48.0 is the last version of flash to support Konqueror in its current state.
[08:08] <Lynoure> jussi01: I seem to have an older version on konq and newer on FF, oh well :)
[08:14] <val0> just tried to install vmware on kubuntu 7.10, get this error: http://pastebin.com/d1ee346db. Used the any-any update 115 and still same output. Any ideas?
[08:17] <sudoubungu> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I AM HURT I AM HURT I AM HURT
[08:23] <posingaspopular> i was just about to call op's...
[08:24] <val0> posingaspopular: i guess he really get hurt
[08:28] <posingaspopular> val0: i can read lower case too...
[08:29] <val0> posingaspopular: ???
[08:31] <posingaspopular> !caps
[08:31] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:31] <val0> i am using caps?
[08:31] <posingaspopular> no sudoubungu was
[08:32] <val0> oh yeh, whatever some kid...
[08:32] <lod_>  hi, i've installed kubuntu 7.10 on MSI notebook, and i've got the foll. problem: on time to time the display flashes and the system tel's me that it's on battery, but AC is pluged in, after copple of minutes flashes agan an show's that it's on AC again. i've tried on vista and there was no problem. how to solve this issue?
[08:33] <jussi01> Hmmm, kmail has just started only saving documents attached to emails, instead of asking to open them or save them. anyone got a fix?
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> lod_: vista's detection's terrible and there's probably a short somewhere?
[08:33] <noaXess> good moring
[08:34] <lod_> it's brand new
[08:38] <jussi01> !nickspam > lod__
[08:39] <noaXess> does anybody know pinnacle for windows? i'm searching for a video cutting product under linux.. have found kino.. but are ther more, professional video cutting tools for linux?
[08:44] <jussi01> !info kdenlive | noaXess
[08:44] <ubotu> noaxess: kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[08:45] <jussi01> noaXess: probably the best one about atm
[08:46] <noaXess> jussi01: hou.. :) cool.. just test it :)
[08:54] <Lord_Devi> Is there a workaround to get flash installed despite the md5sum errors?
[08:56] <Lord_Devi> 306 f'n people and not one talkin about kubuntu.. no questions.. no answers.. useless idle whores
[09:10] <blizzzek> hi
[09:20] <sigma_1234> i guess kubuntu will use dragon player as the kde4 media player
[09:44] <noaXess> jussi01: had a problem, needed to reboot.. what you wrote about a video cutting soft under linux? whats the package name?
[09:44] <noaXess> kv...
[09:44] <IceDraVen> Anyone able to help fix 2problems?
[09:47] <yamal> noaXess: kdenlive was mentioned
[09:47] <noaXess> yamal: thanks
[09:47] <noaXess> IceDraVen: ask..
[09:47] <noaXess> or explain problems..
[09:49] <IceDraVen> Problem
[09:49] <IceDraVen> Problem 1 - Cant ask networks shared files (Other machine is WinXP files in Shared Docs)
[09:50] <IceDraVen> Problem 2 - Cant access msn via Kompete, Amsn or Gaim
[09:54] <se7en> IceDraVen:smb://xp.ip. in dolphin or konquerer
[09:55] <IceDraVen> says could not access smb://xp.ip
[09:55] <se7en> :) IceDraVen change xp.ip with the ip form your xp computer
[09:56] <IceDraVen> internet ip or local
[09:56] <se7en> local
[09:56] <se7en> 192.168.?.?
[09:56] <IceDraVen> kk
[09:57] <IceDraVen> Great :D
[09:58] <IceDraVen> Any idea on the msn one?
[10:02] <Linux_Galore> !pastbin
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Linux_Galore> !pastebin
[10:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:03] <IceDraVen> !msn
[10:03] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[10:03] <IceDraVen> !gaim
[10:09] <IceDraVen> With Kopete it loads my contact list but their not online...but i know they are because 1 is logged in on my other machine
[10:09] <slyboots> Great, Enabling Transparency fracks my video card
[10:09] <slyboots> Peice of crap intergreated.. crap
[10:11] <ToyPanther> Okay, now i believe this should be the right channel to put this question -> How do the KDevelop Argument hints work? i mean, ctrl + space with like a "label->" gives nothing...
[10:11] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[10:13] <ToyPanther> i guess noone knows that then...
[10:16] <apparle> hi
[10:17] <IceDraVen> any ideas on how to get my msn working ? i've installed gaim & amsn & tried kompete
[10:18] <sebastian^> IceDraVen: What's your problem? I'm using kopete with two msn account without any problems
[10:19] <IceDraVen> Its loads up my contacts but all offline (when i know their on - other pc runs msn on winxp)
[10:21] <ibou> hi
[10:22] <apparle> I have the source code of a program written in 'Microsoft Visual C++'  Is there a way to compile it for linux
[10:23] <SlimeyPete> I'm no expert on C++ but I believe that you generally have to edit the code a bit
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> you could try compiling it with g++, see what happens
[10:24] <SlimeyPete> you might get away with it.
[10:26] <sigma_1234> whats a good weather applet for the panel?
[10:27] <apparle> SlimeyPete: ok
[10:31] <Lynoure> sigma_1234: kweather is nice
[10:31] <apparle> anybody uses oss drivers
[10:35] <slyboots> Anyone know any decent system monitoring software for KDE?
[10:37] <noaXess> is there a channel for kdenlive?
[10:37] <sebastian^> slyboots: what do you want to monitor?
[10:37] <slyboots> CPU usage, network usage, mail..
[10:37] <slyboots> temps that sort of thing
[10:38] <sebastian^> hmm nagios *g
[10:39] <Lynoure> nagios is a bit of an overkill if it is for the single system.
[10:40] <slyboots> Seems a bit... much
[10:41] <xevious-> aside from replacing kmenu.png, is there a non-destructive way of changing the kmenu icon?
[10:44] <apparle> xevious-: what do you mean by destructive
[10:45] <noaXess> !kdenlive
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdenlive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <sebastian^> slyboots: what about the performancemonitor?
[10:50] <apparle> xevious: what do you mean by destructive
[10:53] <noaXess> jussi01: have you ever used kdenlive?
[11:01] <ScorpKing> hi guys. i can't set my screen bigger than 640x480. bigger resolutions are listed in xorg.conf but i can't set it. any ideas?
[11:02] <akrus> hello everyone
[11:02] <akrus> could someone recommend a tv tuner for linux?
[11:02] <ScorpKing> !hardware
[11:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[11:02] <akrus> ScorpKing: aren't you using nVidia? :D
[11:02] <ScorpKing> i am
[11:03] <akrus> nvidia-settings
[11:03] <ScorpKing> :) thanks
[11:03] <akrus> try changing the modes there o_o*
[11:04] <ScorpKing> akrus:  ugh. i can't even see the whole settings screen. can i use the cli one?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> hmm.. there's crt0 and crt1
[11:05] <ScorpKing> i think the problem is the refresh rate.
[11:07] <akrus> ScorpKing: actually nvidia's tool is autodetecting the modes... so likely it should work better than others...
[11:07] <akrus> maybe try reinstalling (it's proprietary software anyway) or restarting your X
[11:07] <ScorpKing> akrus: the only modes are auto, 648x480 and 320x200
[11:09] <ScorpKing> i'll reconfigure it fom tty1. brb
[11:11] <ScorpKing> :) looks like i made a backup of xorg.conf
[11:14] <blizzzek> cya
[11:21] <xevious-> apparle: well replacing kmenu.png would destroy the original file
[11:21] <funda> i can't get the audio to work, i have the snd_hda_intel modules loaded, and alsamixer is unmuted, everytime i try to play something in mplayer it says could not open/initialize sound device...
[11:22] <xevious-> i could make a backup
[11:22] <xevious-> apparle: i was just wondering if there was a way to specify a path to kmenu.png
[11:22] <firecrotch> funda:  what model of sound card do you have?
[11:24] <funda> firecrotch: lspci says intel corp unknown device, but that's because my chipset is new and i'm using 2.6.20 kernel, it worked with the livecd though, i haven't upgraded to feisty yet
[11:26] <funda> what package is alsaconf in, i don't have it installed
[11:26] <doc__> hello, does any one have a dell xps 1330 with bluetooth working ? :?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:33] <grish> morning :)
[11:35] <grish> does anyone know how to get adept running again .. i seem to have asked it to only look at the CD, and now i cant start it again, keeps saying "file:/// media/cdrom0 is not know on line 75 in sourcelist
[11:36] <grish> tried to find the sourcelist .. turns out its an empty lib.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> grish if you run kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <stdin> grish: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <stdin> needs "kate" ;)
[11:37] <grish> from the konsole ?
[11:37] <stdin> from Alt-F2
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> stdin, hehe bah]
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> grish, yeah its a command line command
[11:37] <grish> it found something :) .. takes a bit of reading .. i'll let you know if i get it working :)
[11:38] <stdin> grish: remove the line with "file:///media/cdrom0" in line 75 :)
[11:38] <grish> is it enough to remove the # fromthe others ? .. and evt. place one at the offending file ?
[11:38] <grish> line*
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> grish, the # means comment or "ignore this line"
[11:39] <stdin> yeah, that will be fine
[11:40] <grish> ohh .. i turned off alooooot .. many # needs to be removed :)
[11:43] <grish> yay -- got the konsole apt-get up again ..
[11:43] <grish> does it show that im kinda new to this :/
[11:44] <grish> and the gui one is up too .. tyvm :)
[11:45] <grish> Geezuz - last time i messed with programming like this was on a C-16
[11:46] <grish> not much changed tho :P
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> grish, its not programming, its a configuration file for a program
[11:46] <grish> hehe .. same to me :) .. been stuck on wintendo for too long
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> glad its all smooth now :)
[11:47] <grish> aye ... getting a bit tired of re-installing everytime i touch something :P
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> grish, if you play with lots of config files make a backup first
[11:48] <grish> all tho the last 3-4 times was my own fault .. found out that once you manually configure your network all wireless nets go away ..
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> grish, sudo cp sources.list sources.list_old
[11:48] <grish> heh .. i dont play with them .. i couldnt find them before :)
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> grish, then if it goes wrong you can cp it back
[11:49] <grish> now thats a nifty command :) .. does it work with netconfigs ?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> grish, yeah just change the filename to whatever file you wanna backup
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> as an example
[11:50] <LetsGo67> My time is wrong, is says 12:49, can someone help me change it please?  it constantly changes on its own
[11:51] <grish> :) its 1250 here  .. perhaps youre in the wrong place  .. j/k
[11:51] <Dr_willis> it changes every Min. here :)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> 11:54am here
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !ntpd
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <LetsGo67> The point is, it's not supposed to be 12:51 here.
[11:51] <grish> there was a nerf ealier on in 6.xx something .. some of the +1 timezones was +2
[11:51] <Lynoure> ntp ftw :)
[11:51] <LetsGo67> I am using 7.10
[11:52] <grish> it seems to have gone away after i put 7.10 up
[11:52] <Dr_willis> LetsGo67,  so to state the question better.. You ar3e saying its Loseing a few min every so often?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[11:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:52] <LetsGo67> Dr_willis, the minutes are fine, the hour digit changes abnormally (later than usual)
[11:52] <Lynoure> LetsGo67: the commandline command for setting the time is  date, I always forget the syntax, so see  man date
[11:52] <LetsGo67> !BERYL
[11:52] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:53] <LetsGo67> Lynourne, even then, my clock changes.
[11:53] <Lynoure> LetsGo67: More detail would be helpful... like when it changes and how
[11:54] <LetsGo67> Lynoure: probably when my computer is off.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67, how old is the system?
[11:54] <LetsGo67> ActionParsnip: 5 days.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67, the physical PC is 5 days old?
[11:55] <LetsGo67> ActionParsnip: Windows Vista édition Familiale Basique, which I barely use.  The PC was bought 5 days ago.
[11:55] <LetsGo67> Has a (C)2007.
[11:55] <Dr_willis> some days its like pulling teeth. :) heh heh...
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67, just checking as a low motherboard battery can cause that
[11:55] <Dr_willis> SO if you set the proper date. then power down for an hr.. and power back up. what time does it say?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> proper time i mean.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67, is the time in the bios set correctly?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> if you set the proper time and run for 2 hrs.. does the clock stay correct.. is also another good question.
[11:56] <stdin> I've heard cases where windows can change the system clock to local time on boot, and because linux expects it to be in UTC, that can cause problems
[11:57] <LetsGo67> I can do the test on my own, but it affects both Xubuntu 7.10 and Windows Vista édition Familiale Basique.  The hour digit is later than expected.  The minutes, seconds and date are correct.
[11:57] <LetsGo67> Both of them show a later time.
[11:58] <LetsGo67> Anyone?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> so its gaining an hr every hr? or an hr  just at random>
[11:59] <sigma_> please help, i added the kweather applet to my panel and now i cannot move or remove any applets from it
[12:00] <Dr_willis> if its affecting both linux and windows.. thats weird.
[12:00] <sigma_> i have no clue what that stupid kweather applet did to the panel
[12:01] <Dr_willis> hmm. I dont even have kweather for my panel.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> !find kweather
[12:01] <ubotu> Found: kweather
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Installing it now
[12:01] <sigma_> its in the repo's. pretty popular i see
[12:01] <Lynoure> sigma_: I have never gotten that... What hinders the removals? No right point to click, no reaction, or what?
[12:02] <Dr_willis> Its working fine here.
[12:02] <sigma_> Lynoure: no right point to click anymore!
[12:03] <Dr_willis> right clicking on the little 'handel' on the left side of the kweather applet dont work eh?
[12:04] <Lynoure> sigma_: I guess when in doubt, restarting panel does not hurt
[12:04] <sigma_> Lynoure: how do i do that?
[12:04] <Lynoure> sigma_: dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:04] <sigma_> Dr_willis: thats the problem, i dont have that handle anymore so i can't even move applets around
[12:05] <Dr_willis> no handles on any of hte applets at all?
[12:06] <sigma_> Dr_willis: nope none of them, the functionality just disappeared
[12:06] <sigma_> how do i reset kicker to original settings?
[12:07] <Lynoure> sigma_: my handles only show up if I hover mouse at where they are. that is not the case in your case
[12:07] <sigma_> Lynoure: it restarted but i still can't move anything around or remove anything, i tried hovering through the whole taskbar and there was not one handle
[12:11] <sigma_> ok its back. i deleted the config file for kicker and it reset itself:)
[12:13] <niall_> can anyone tell me why Kopete has all of a sudden stopped working?
[12:15] <Lynoure> sigma_: then try removing kweather with purge option
[12:25] <niall_> can anyone still get on msn using kopete?
[12:26] <niall_> I keep getting an error message saying 'connection actively refused' :z
[12:26] <wsjunior> yes
[12:26] <wsjunior> i have a problem switching to tty, my screen looks like this: http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00008gh0.jpg
[12:26] <wsjunior> could anybody help me to solve this?
[12:27] <wsjunior> i tried using vga=791 but it just turn this screen totally black
[12:28] <Dr_willis> You could try disabling the framebuffer.
[12:29] <Dr_willis> use vga=normal, or the 'nofb' option -- details are here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[12:30] <Dr_willis> that image looks like the wrong refresh rates or other settings are being used on the lcd.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> good luck.
[12:31] <Dr_willis>  apt-get install ZZZZZZzzzzz...
[12:31] <Dr_willis> :) bye
[12:33] <niall_> :(
[12:33] <niall_> I can't get on msn anymore
[12:38] <niall_> bah, MSN hates me
[12:39] <niall_> I managed to get kopete to connect by telling it to use the http method, but it throws me back off after about 2 minutes
[12:40] <jussi01> niall_: if you arent adverse to a different msn program, try kmess
[12:41] <niall_> I don't think Kopete is the issue
[12:41] <jussi01> niall_: give it a go and see. ;)
[12:41] <niall_> I rebooted to windows earlier
[12:41] <niall_> and pidgin won't connect either
[12:42] <niall_> but I can get on using the official msn client
[12:42] <niall_> aMSN also doesn't work
[12:42] <firecrotch> Perhaps they changed something server-side to block third party apps again?
[12:42] <niall_> i just get 'connection actively refused' the second I try to sign in
[12:42] <niall_> it's pretty much instantaneous
[12:42] <Maniak> Who want? http://DIANA-MEINE-EX.gotdns.com/?id=5420a7e0 :)
[12:44] <niall_> :(
[12:45] <niall_> this totally sucks
[12:46] <niall_> while I can get on to see my contacts using the HTTP method, I can't actually send any messages to them
[12:46] <niall_> and if it try and connect normally it says 'connection actively refused' instantly
[12:46] <niall_> am I the only person getting this problem?
[12:47] <firecrotch> niall_:  I have no problem connecting to msn with Pidgin
[12:47] <scorpking> there's amsn as well
[12:47] <niall_> this sucks
[12:47] <firecrotch> scorpking: he noted before you joined that he tried amsn as well
[12:48] <niall_> no 3rd party client will let me connect to msn
[12:48] <scorpking> firecrotch: oh ok. didn't know ;)
[12:48] <niall_> I only seem to be able to get on using Windows Live Messenger when I boot back into Vista
[12:48] <niall_> :<
[12:50] <niall_> maybe they banned me :(
[12:50] <firecrotch> niall_:  I don't think so, if you can connect in Vista
[12:50] <niall_> they won't let me use 3rd party clients though
[12:50] <maltron> hi, can someone help me with cdrdao?  I'm trying to get a toc file but it says "ERROR: Cannot setup device /dev/cdrw".  Meanwhile k3b seems to work fine with the drive.   I've tried entering the device into cdrdao (--device ATA:1000,0,0) but to no avail
[12:50] <niall_> I was signed into like 3 accounts at once
[12:50] <romunov__> in windows?
[12:50] <scorpking> who are you connected to the net niall_ ?
[12:51] <niall_> ?
[12:51] <scorpking> how* heh
[12:51] <niall_> oh
[12:51] <scorpking> :)
[12:51] <niall_> adsl router
[12:51] <scorpking> oh ok
[12:52] <niall_> everything was fine until last night
[12:52] <firecrotch> Other thing that I'm thinking it could be is that MSN did make some kind of update that broke the programs you've tried, but not Pidgin?
[12:52] <firecrotch> Have you tried using Pidgin?
[12:52] <niall_> yes
[12:52] <scorpking> maltron: it might be /dev/sdc or sdb or something else
[12:52] <niall_> I tried Pidgin on windows
[12:52] <niall_> it doesn't work
[12:52] <firecrotch> That's really odd.
[12:52] <niall_> aMSN and Kopete I've tried on here and they don't work either
[12:52] <niall_> only Windows Live Messenger lets me connect
[12:53] <niall_> everything was fine until last night. I was signed in on like 3 accounts, had web cam on one and multiple conversations on the others, then all of a sudden everything just closed, and now it won't let me back on :(
[12:55] <maltron> scorpking: yeah, I don't think so.  It's actually a bit more complicated than than though
[12:55] <niall_> brb, I'm gonna reconnect to the internet and get a new IP
[12:55] <maltron> scorpking: normal cdroms seemt to mount to /dev/hda, but the eject cdrom command seems to want to eject hdb
[12:56] <scorpking> maltron: if you use the drive in k3b you can view the debug/output and then look at the complete command that k3b used
[12:56] <niall_> well it works now ¬_¬
[12:56] <maltron> scorpking: ok, lemme try that.
[12:57] <scorpking> maltron: that's after the cd burned
[12:57] <niall_> they must have blocked my IP or something
[12:58] <firecrotch> niall_: Never heard of them doing that before
[12:58] <scorpking> niall_: have you tried the removing the config directory for those programs in your home directory?
[12:59] <niall_> well I can connect now
[12:59] <scorpking> maybe do mv .pidgen .old or where ever it is
[12:59] <niall_> so I don't need to
[12:59] <scorpking> oh ok
[12:59] <niall_> pidgin is running on windows
[12:59] <niall_> I have Kopete and aMSN on Kubuntu
[12:59] <niall_> none of the 3 were working, I renewed my IP and now Kopete connected
[13:00] <scorpking> well, hope you find the problem. i have to go. cheers
[13:01] <niall_> I bet Microsoft blocked my IP from connecting using anything other than the official client
[13:02] <niall_> since I was on 3 MSN accounts at once with webcam and multi way conversations on all of them, maybe I was just using too much bandwidth for one person. So they chucked me off and stopped me using anything other than the official client, which naturally only allows one account at a time
[13:02] <niall_> speculation ;D
[13:05] <niall_> maybe I should test this theory
[13:09] <sigma_1234> how do you get a computer to run a cronjob as root? im trying to get my computer to shut itself down but it never works because it needr sudo authorization
[13:10] <frojnd> can anyone explain to me how can I use lkl - userspace keylogger for x86 architecture according to this README: http://pastebin.ca/875931  I'm in a dir: /usr/share/docs/lkl/ and I do this: lkl -l -k us_km -o loglkl.txt and in return I get: Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is us_km. The logfile is loglkl.txt.  unable to find keymap-file: No such file or directory a keymap is required!! run lkl with -k <keymap> What's up with this <keymap> ?
[13:10] <frojnd> sigma_1234, sudo shutdown -h time
[13:11] <sigma_1234> frojnd: but i want it to do it everyday automatically - it doesnt have a monitor
[13:12] <frojnd> sigma_1234, oh
[13:12] <frojnd> than u need to do itwith cronjob, but I don't know how
[13:13] <sigma_1234> i tried but it wont run the command because it doesnt have sudo permission to
[13:13] <stdin> sigma_1234: use "kdesu kcron" and edit the system crontab :)
[13:14] <sigma_1234> thanks stdin. il try that
[13:34] <Helvasca> hey, I was just wondering how to close a troublesome TTY that wont respond
[13:36] <Helvasca> ???
[13:44] <Tarin> anyone know where i can get an avi plugin for kaffeine player
[13:46] <Tarin> !kaffiene
[13:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffiene - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:46] <Tarin> !kaffeine
[13:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:53] <jussi01> !avi | Tarin
[13:53] <ubotu> Tarin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:00] <smeril> Nebiyu?
[14:02] <smeril> how can i make my usb drive with pendrivelinux able to save changes?
[14:03] <MGalaxy> SCIM & SKIM work well in KDE APPs, but not in Firefox & OpenOffice, google not useful, any solution?
[14:03] <smeril> i am also looking for a ntfs reader
[14:03] <smeril> any examples?
[14:04] <MGalaxy> smeril: i think kernel 2.6 can read NTFS by itself
[14:05] <smeril> i want to be able to read ntfs from pendrivelinux
[14:05] <smeril> but i cant install anything on it thats why i am asking how to be able to save make changes
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks :-)
[14:19] <DoomGuard> Does Kubuntu 7.10 have a firewall installed by default????
[14:19] <llutz> no
[14:19] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[14:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:21] <alteregolio> a firewall on linux
[14:21] <alteregolio> are you paralized by windows?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> DoomGuard, ihate to say you're suffering from too much MS culture of fear
[14:23] <BluesKaj> for good reason , I might add :(
[14:23] <DoomGuard> :P
[14:24] <DoomGuard> i have some probs with the LinuxDC++
[14:24] <hagabaka> why does "any other linux distribution" have firewall built-in?
[14:25] <xRaich[o]2x> hagabaka: iptables is part of the kernel
[14:26] <hagabaka> you can't remove it?
[14:26] <xRaich[o]2x> why would you want to do that?
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> you could probably hack it out of the kernel but I don't see why you'd want to
[14:26] <hagabaka> it's a package for me
[14:26] <hagabaka> well if you don't use networking why would you want it?
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> why not?
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> it does no harm
[14:26] <hagabaka> has no use either
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> so?
[14:27] <hagabaka> so if you want a miminal installation you would want to remove it
[14:27] <xRaich[o]2x> hagabaka: then compile the kernel by hand and remove iptables
[14:27] <SlimeyPete> well I'm sure embedded kernels don't include it, you can get rid of it at compilation time
[14:27] <hagabaka> then there are potentially other linux distributions that don't have firewall built-in :)
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> pedant ;p
[14:30] <BluesKaj> i don't see the point of minimal installations anymore , even on a 10yr old pc.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> which wifey still uses with XP ...she's afraid to switch to linux, which would run much faster :(
[14:32] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: what scares her about it?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> she's been playing  a solitaire game for about 5 yrs and has built up a 'number of games played' database which her scores are based on.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> doesn't want to lose it
[14:35] <alesan> format her hard disk
[14:36] <unagi> anyone here use compiz on kde?
[14:36] <alesan> after she's disconnected from that thing, she won't have any problem switching to linux :)
[14:36] <niall_> is there anyway to back it up?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> old pc .. I'm hoping it dies soon , so i can set up a new pc for her
[14:36] <niall_> and then run window solitaire in wine
[14:37] <frojnd> does anyone here uses torrentflux? I changed download directory and chmod -w it, but I'm still not able to see it ... any ideas why is that ?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ever heard of 'pretty good solitaire' ?
[14:37] <unagi> !compiz
[14:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:38] <BluesKaj> niall, the backup question is a good one ...I dunno :P
[14:43] <unagi> what is the kde equiv of gnome-system-monitor
[14:44] <llutz> ksysguard maybe
[14:45] <Kekcuk> http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139657817 Please Come And Vote For Me!!! (When you enter page, you auto... vote for me) (Thanks to all who voted!!)
[14:46] <llutz> just go and die
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> How about no.
[14:53] <admin91> hello everyone
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !hi | admin91
[14:53] <ubotu> admin91: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[14:53] <admin91> I have a question: How I install KDE Theme Manager?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !theme
[14:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[14:57] <ol_dude67> admin91, are you talking about the desktop windows manager?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> !KDM Theme Manager
[14:58] <admin91> In Kubuntu can I install KDE Theme manager from Add/Remove Programs >>Settings?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> admin91, check out system settings/appearance
[15:00] <snarkster> gtg to work later
[15:01] <unagi> i cannot figure out why konquerer wont connect to webpages
[15:02] <unagi> can anyone possibly point me in the right direction for making my brightness buttons functional?
[15:02] <admin91> ok but I downloaded firefox.tar.gz and I don`t know how to install it
[15:03] <llutz> admin91: open a console and type: "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[15:03] <admin91> thanks
[15:04] <unagi> can kde 3.5 themes run on kde 4
[15:04] <stdin> unagi: generally, no
[15:04] <unagi> ew thats no good
[15:14] <[pyro]> hey guys, this has been driving me nuts as i cant seem to find any info anywhere about it. I have my wifi setup and running sweet using knetworkmanager, but my network is a wpa-psk network with a hidden ssid. Each time i start up my laptop i have to right click network manager and click "connect to other wireless connection" and fill out the details and it connects. Is there a way for it to remember these details and connect auto?
[15:14] <unagi_> yea so kopete is crashing with Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-unagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.................what does that mean
[15:15] <unagi> =(
[15:17] <[pyro]> =(
[15:17] <jeanpat> where am i ?
[15:18] <jeanpat> anybody ?
[15:18] <[pyro]> ?
[15:18] <[pyro]> mars?
[15:18] <jeanpat> thanks
[15:18] <[pyro]> your in #kubuntu on freenode
[15:18] <unagi> sigh
[15:18] <jeanpat> thanks
[15:18] <unagi> kde doesnt want me to like it
[15:18] <unagi> lol
[15:18] <jeanpat> ... Sorry
[15:20] <mefisto__> all my videos are showing wrong aspect ratio in xine-based players (too narrow). But if I disable scaling the aspect is correct. any ideas?
[15:21] <unagi> disable scaling when you want to watch a video?
[15:21] <mefisto__> unagi: that means videos are a fixed size, usually too small
[15:23] <admin91> how I change screen resolution in kubuntu?
[15:23] <admin91> and how about the mp3 files that I can`t play?
[15:24] <senwei> admin91:use audacious to play
[15:24] <BluesKaj> admin91, system settings/monitor&display/admin mode
[15:24] <H_O_S> I get the following werror , whatever i try to apt-get : Package blender is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package blender has no installation candidate. Anyone knows why ?
[15:25] <SlimeyPete> H_O_S: try doing "sudo apt-get update" first
[15:27] <unagi> doees kde not support brightness keys?
[15:27] <unagi> or brightness period?
[15:27] <SlimeyPete> mine work, but I think they're hardware-based
[15:27] <SlimeyPete> the power management brightness works too
[15:28] <BluesKaj> H_O_S, maybe enabling the backports in your sources.list will get you access to it.
[15:29] <unagi> where would i find that SlimeyPete
[15:29] <H_O_S> SlimeyPete: That worked great :D
[15:29] <H_O_S> thanks :)
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> unagi: dunno where it's configure to be honest. I just know that the screen dims when I unplug the power pack.
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> H_O_S: no problem
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> :)
[15:31] <unagi> i wish i had more control
[15:32] <The_ManU_212> hi
[15:32] <The_ManU_212> where can i find support for tuxguitar
[15:32] <The_ManU_212> i wanted to know if it is able to specify up and downstrokes
[15:33] <mefisto__> unagi: you could try different keyboard layouts in system settings>regional & language>keyboard layout
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !tuxguitar | The_ManU_212
[15:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxguitar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !TuxGuitar
[15:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxguitar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <admin91> I have both Windows and Linux and I want to use the bootmanager from windows instead of Grub. How can I do this?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> The_ManU_212, try this site :  http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/
[15:35] <The_ManU_212> thx
[15:36] <The_ManU_212> but i didnt found any solution or answer there
[15:36] <The_ManU_212> BluesKaj:
[15:36] <admin91>   I have both Windows and Linux and I want to use the bootmanager from windows instead of Grub. How can I do this?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> The_ManU_212, nothing in the forums ?
[15:37] <sp9> Hi
[15:38] <sp9> I just wanted to know if the hardy alpha release already comes with kde 4.0 or not. if not i will install gutsy and after that install kde 4.0
[15:39] <The_ManU_212> BluesKaj: found nothing for upstroke/downstroke adn wheere is the search function BluesKaj
[15:40] <BluesKaj> admin91, there is no bootmanager in windows , just the Master Boot Record and it doesn't accomodate Linux , you're stuck with grub
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> nah
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> it can be done
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> Windows does include a reasonable boot manager
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> it just doesn'tusually shows its face
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> http://www.linux.com/articles/113945
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> admin91: looks like there are instructions here ^^
[15:40] <SlimeyPete> but I haven't followed them myself
[15:41] <BluesKaj> thats' for 2 drives , does that make a diff?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> BBL, errands
[15:42] <admin91> thanks
[15:44] <MGalaxy> SCIM & SKIM dont work in Firefox & Openoffice @ Kubuntu 7.10, any solution?
[15:51] <Raizard> Can anyone help me? I have to connect using WPA... but K Network Assistant fails, and i don't know how to configure Knetworkmanager
[15:52] <Arwen> huh, fglrx AIGLX actually kind of works
[15:53] <sub[t]rnl> Raizard➜ right click on the knetworkmanager icon in kicker, go to Connect to other wireless network.  You can specify WPA in there
[15:53] <Raizard> i know nut
[15:53] <Raizard> but*
[15:53] <Raizard> i don't have this option
[15:53] <Raizard> i only have Manual configuration
[15:54] <Raizard> if i try the manual configuration i can only use WEp
[15:55] <sub[t]rnl> Raizard➜ you don't have a "Connect to other wireless network" option?
[15:55] <Raizard> no
[15:55] <admin91>  I tried "dd if=/dev/hdb5 of=bootsect.lnx  size=512 count=1" but "unrecognized operand seze=512"
[15:55] <admin91> * size
[15:56] <Raizard> the icon in the toolbar is like i am connected, but if i wait with the cursor on it, it says " Manual configuration"
[15:56] <sub[t]rnl> right click on it
[15:57] <Raizard> done
[15:57] <Raizard> but this option is not here
[15:57] <SlimeyPete> admin91: "count=512" might work
[15:57] <sub[t]rnl> odd
[15:57] <Raizard> i have only Manual configuration
[15:58] <Raizard> yes i know... The firts time i used it there was Connect to etc...
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> if you have ever used Manual Configuration, Networkmanager will have effectively disabled itself
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> so some of the options will dissapear
[15:58] <Raizard> yes i used manual configuration
[15:58] <sub[t]rnl> ew, good point.  Delete any lines related to your device in the /etc/network/interfaces fie
[15:58] <sigma_> my server is acting really weird in linux. its a compaq d500 - the cpu fan is on full speed as if its straining the cpu when its actually doing nothing and when i use it as a local webserver i have to wait ages for the pages to load (it acts as a LAMP server)
[15:58] <sub[t]rnl> s/fie/file
[15:58] <sigma_> any idea what the problem is?
[15:59] <SlimeyPete> Raizard: "kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces". Then comment out (#) all the wireless bits (usually wifi0 or ath0)
[15:59] <SlimeyPete> then restart networkmanager or reboot
[15:59] <Raizard> so i have to comment all with wlan0?
[15:59] <admin91> it says dd: opening '/dev/hdb5' : Permission denied
[16:00] <SlimeyPete> Raizard: yeah
[16:00] <sigma_> oh and is there a way i can get the kde gui not to start automatically when the PC boots up?
[16:00] <sub[t]rnl> Raizard➜ correct, then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:00] <sub[t]rnl> sigma_➜ you could comment out the line in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[16:01] <Raizard> thx very much. i'll try and then go back here
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> sigma_: or you could do "sudo update-rc.d kdm remove"
[16:03] <ThomasD> hi
[16:03] <ThomasD> trying to burn an iso to a dvd with k3b
[16:04] <ThomasD> I get this error
[16:04] <ThomasD> Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/scd0 obs=32k seek=0'
[16:04] <ThomasD> :-( unable to O_EXCL /dev/scd0: someone was in time to remount?
[16:04] <ThomasD> first time this happend to me :/
[16:04] <ThomasD> usually it works fine
[16:06] <niall_> how do I rip a DVD?
[16:06] <niall_> when I choose the option in K3B nothing happens
[16:06] <niall_> is there a package I need?
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> if it's copy-protected you'll need libcss but I won't give any more info than that as it is illegal
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> at least, illegal in most countries ;)
[16:07] <niall_> illegal to tell me?
[16:07] <ThomasD> SlimeyPete: got libdvdcss2 ;)
[16:07] <niall_> :P
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> niall_: no, but against channel rules
[16:07] <niall_> weak
[16:07] <hydrogen> not really I don't think
[16:07] <hydrogen> !libdvdcss
[16:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:08] <hydrogen> yep
[16:08] <SlimeyPete> exactly, mentioning libdvdcss is fine, anything more probably isn't ;)
[16:08] <niall_> I can watch DVDs fine
[16:08] <niall_> I just want to rip the audio so I can add it to my Amarok collection
[16:09]  * SlimeyPete wipes the brown smudge off his nose
[16:09] <niall_> it's a dvd of a live show
[16:09] <ThomasD> niall_: http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip
[16:09] <ThomasD> niall_: thats how I do it ;)
[16:09] <ThomasD> works like a charm
[16:10] <niall_> can I rip to flac? ;]
[16:10] <ThomasD> niall_: if you specify it has to use flac codec
[16:10] <Raizard> I'm back
[16:11] <Raizard> It works!!!
[16:11] <ThomasD> niall_: you'll only have to use the # rip audio track  part
[16:11] <unagi> anyone know how to get brightness buttons functional in kde?
[16:11] <Raizard> thanks a lot guys
[16:11] <Raizard> cya
[16:11] <niall_> hmm
[16:12] <ThomasD> niall_: check mencoder manual for further specifications, and have a look al #mplayer ande #mencoder
[16:14] <Sigma16> yo
[16:14] <Sigma16> eny 1 there?
[16:14] <unagi> what is the window decorator in kde
[16:15] <flipstar> kwin
[16:15] <Sigma16> unsure... how do i open the config to modify screen resolution.... i forget...
[16:15] <hydrogen> run krandrtray
[16:15] <Sigma16> i cant stand these enourmous windows >_<
[16:15] <Sigma16> me?
[16:15] <hydrogen> yes
[16:16] <Sigma16> command not found
[16:16] <Sigma16> im in the shell on the terminal
[16:16] <hydrogen> install it then..
[16:16] <Sigma16> one min
[16:17] <Sigma16> not coming up
[16:17] <Sigma16> krandrtray
[16:19] <Sigma16> where do i download it...
[16:20] <hydrogen> mm
[16:20] <hydrogen> hmm
[16:20] <flipstar> Sigma just typ sudo apt-get install krandtray
[16:20] <lascar> !krandtray
[16:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandtray - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:20] <hydrogen> !find krandrtray
[16:20] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kdebase-dbg, kdebase-workspace
[16:20] <hydrogen> maybe its only a kde4 package.. I thought there was a kde3 one
[16:21] <sigma_1234> is the memtest in grub supposed to use alot of the processor at times?
[16:21] <brmassa_> guys, i installed the FIREFOX ans its FLASH plugin. Then i asked to KONQUEROR to scan the plugins to detect the new flash. However, it now shows an error on every page with flash
[16:21] <brmassa_> about a nspluginviwer
[16:21] <sigma_1234> how did you install flash?
[16:21] <Sigma16> well i wanted to know how to open up the config file that contains resolution... i had to modify it yesterday cuz it had me set to a amx of 640 x 480...
[16:22] <flipstar> Sigma16: try wmressel > sudo apt-get install wmressel
[16:22] <mefisto__> where am I likely to find standard kde button images (eg, back and forward button images)?
[16:22] <flipstar> Sigma16: it is in the xorg.conf at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:22] <brmassa_> sigma_1234: thru firefox. using its auto detection.
[16:22] <Sigma16> thats downloadin
[16:23] <Sigma16> yea i 4get how top open it... havent used linux in months cuz of lack of net with it till recently...
[16:23] <flipstar> just typ it into the shell..or search it in the kmenu..
[16:23] <unagi> what is the equiv of gnomes sessions in kubuntu
[16:23] <Sigma16> yea how do i open it in shell..
[16:24] <sigma_1234> !flash
[16:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:24] <wimpies> where can I find an installable CD for 64 Intel kubuntu ?
[16:24] <unagi> !session
[16:24] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[16:24] <Sigma16> how do i open xorg.conf
[16:25] <Sigma16> in terminal
[16:25] <mefisto__> Sigma16: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or "sudoedit" instead of "sudo nano")
[16:25] <Sigma16> yea i was missing the word nano
[16:25] <Sigma16> ty
[16:25] <brmassa_> ubotu: thanks
[16:25] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:26] <unagi> !k menu
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:27] <unagi> what is the k menu
[16:27] <flipstar> hrhr i just ordered 10mbit :P
[16:27] <flipstar> sry ot
[16:27] <Sigma16> ok
[16:27] <Sigma16> how to reboot graphics thing
[16:27] <lascar> sigma: ctrl + alt + backspace
[16:28] <unagi> i dont see save session anywhere
[16:32] <yasahiro> hi everybody
[16:34] <unagi> !session
[16:34] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[16:40] <yasahiro> i have a question... how does one keep kicker from starting up in kde..?
[16:41] <unagi> what is kicker
[16:41] <aleksanteri> the kde panel
[16:41] <unagi> ah
[16:41] <aleksanteri> yasahiro, i don't think you can, but you can always hide it
[16:41] <yasahiro> unagi..? sounds somewhat familiar...
[16:42] <yasahiro> wow.. >_<
[16:51] <no1uknow> I have a newbie question
[16:52] <no1uknow> in knetworkmanager when I select a connection I get the message "waiting for key from KWAllet"
[16:52] <no1uknow> just hangs with this message
[16:52] <flipstar> is kwallet open ?
[16:52] <unagi> i cannot figure out why kopete doesnt run for me
[16:53] <flipstar> unagi: does it print an error message ?
[16:53] <no1uknow> yes
[16:53] <unagi> no...........it opens then goes gray
[16:53] <no1uknow> flipstar: yes
[16:54] <flipstar> hm and the key definitiv is in kwallet ?
[16:54] <flipstar> unagi: maybe you should try to run it in a konsole an see what happens
[16:54] <no1uknow> actually I don't see it in there now... not sure what happened
[16:55] <unagi> http://pastebin.org/17127 flipstar
[16:56] <flipstar> hm
[16:58] <flipstar> unagi: do you have permissions on $HOME/.kde ?
[16:58] <unagi> i dunno
[16:58] <unagi> all i did was isntall kubuntu-desktop
[16:59] <MGalaxy> when I use "export LC_CTYPE=fa_IR.UTF-8; openoffice" , openoffice works well with my keyboard, but not when I set LC_CTYPE separatly, WHY?
[16:59] <unagi> sudo kopete gives me X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171
[16:59] <unagi> im sorry it gives me Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-unagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:00] <flipstar> hm you did try do run it as root ?
[17:00] <unagi> sudo kopete gives me Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-unagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:01] <flipstar> no dont run it as root
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> unagi: "sudo chown root /var/tmp/kdecache-unagi"
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> or not
[17:01] <unagi> not running it as root gives me the pastebin
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> sorry, kopete eh
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> don't do the chown thing, shouldn't be running it as root (very bad idea)
[17:02] <unagi> ugh i just did it
[17:02] <unagi> how do i reverse chown
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> sudo chown unagi /var/tmp/kdecache-unagi
[17:02] <unagi> thatll take off root as chown?
[17:02] <flipstar> yes
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> yep, it'll make you the owner
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> sorry, I had misread your problem
[17:03] <unagi> now kopete just hangs
[17:03] <unagi> doesnt load, no error
[17:04] <flipstar> and the output from konsole ?
[17:04] <unagi> nothing
[17:04] <sigma16> bwahahahaha
[17:04] <sigma16> so tell me
[17:04] <sigma16> why is linux all that better den other OS's
[17:04] <flipstar> linux is open source dude
[17:04] <unagi> because you say than with den
[17:05] <unagi> you may go now
[17:05] <sigma16> i know its open source
[17:05] <sigma16> but i dont know how to code linux...
[17:05] <sigma16> only php and other web languages
[17:05] <unagi> neither do i
[17:05] <unagi> what is your point
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> *shrug* it's free in both senses of the word
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> and it has a package manager, fewer viruses, lots and lots of free apps.
[17:05] <unagi> wow i uninstalled and reinstalled kopete.........still hangs with no output
[17:06] <SlimeyPete> and kubuntu is prettier than XP IMHO.
[17:06] <unagi> sigma16: its plain and simple..........no resources dedicated to stupid authentication software.....
[17:06] <unagi> more cpu and memory dedicated to my animation programs
[17:06] <unagi> yea so........how can i debug kopete now with no shell output
[17:06] <flipstar> you using the composite extension unagi ?
[17:07] <unagi> im using compiz
[17:07] <jpatrick> !ot | sigma16
[17:07] <ubotu> sigma16: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:07] <flipstar> ah
[17:07] <unagi> does kopete and compiz not get along?
[17:07] <flipstar> normally it should
[17:07] <jpatrick> !compiz > unagi
[17:08] <unagi> jpatrick: i can appricate your willingness to help and policing the channel but that info doesnt help my problem
[17:08] <ol_dude67> unagi, which kde are you using 3 or 4?
[17:08] <unagi> 4
[17:09] <jpatrick> unagi: it says ()or it should - say that you can still have compiz goodies in kde :)
[17:09] <sigma16> can u upgreade for 3 to 4?
[17:09] <unagi> and i know this........and i do have compiz goodies
[17:10] <ol_dude67> unagi, have you asked in #kubuntu-kde4, i know there are others who have had this problem as well.
[17:10] <unagi> ah i got it to hang with output again
[17:11] <unagi> ty ill try there
[17:11] <ol_dude67> unagi, its just a suggestion and your welcome
[17:11] <sigma16> yo
[17:11] <sigma16> can u upgrade from 3 to 4?
[17:11] <sigma16> i didnt rly c a way to
[17:12] <unagi> sigma16: you dont make sense my man
[17:12] <sigma16> sry if its a dumb question
[17:12] <unagi> you came in here asking why this os is better than the rest........
[17:12] <sigma16> can u upgrade from KE3 to KDE4
[17:12] <unagi> which indicates you are ignorant to the ways of linux
[17:12] <sigma16> ive had little linux experience
[17:12] <unagi> now you are asking if you can upgrade from 3 to 4 which........is an ignorant question with an educated undertone
[17:12] <ol_dude67> well you can run them side by side which is better as kde4 is still quite a bit buggy, yet.
[17:12] <sigma16> and all of that experience has been bad...
[17:12] <unagi> why has your experience been bad
[17:13] <sigma16> fedora corrupted my hard drive...
[17:13] <sigma16> my net didnt work for 6 months....
[17:13] <unagi> what...?
[17:13] <unagi> what do you mean corrupted your hard drive
[17:13] <sigma16> when i downloaded upgrades it set my resolution to a max of 640 x 480
[17:13] <sigma16> it was useless
[17:13] <sigma16> couldnt use it anymore
[17:13] <sigma16> couldnt reformat
[17:13] <sigma16> or enything
[17:13] <unagi> um
[17:13] <flipstar> there are filecheck utiles..
[17:13] <sigma16> i couldnt even boot up fedora...
[17:14] <unagi> nothing on this planet, can render a harddrive useless
[17:14] <flipstar> thats what live cds are for
[17:14] <sigma16> i fixed it
[17:14] <sigma16> long time ago...
[17:14] <ol_dude67> unagi, yes there is a hammer.
[17:14] <flipstar> lol
[17:14] <unagi> you know what i mean
[17:14] <unagi> =)
[17:15] <sigma16> i came in asking about linux over for example windows because i dont know all the differences and advantages over other os's
[17:15] <unagi> there are many advantages and disadvantages to using any for any reason
[17:16] <unagi> i still run vista because i dont see a suitable replacement for media center and my tv tuner............or good compositing software for linux
[17:16] <unagi> other than shake, but i cant find it
[17:16] <ol_dude67> one of the main advantages would probably be more control over your computer then with windows.
[17:16] <sigma16> whats a good image program for linux? i had photoshop on my windows
[17:16] <unagi> gimp
[17:16] <unagi> though gimp takes getting use to
[17:16] <unagi> its most similar to photoshop, i still prefer photoshop and you can run it on linux
[17:16] <sigma16> agreed ol....
[17:17] <sigma16> i dont like gimp... used to have it..
[17:17] <sigma16> u can get photoshop on linux?
[17:17] <unagi> yes
[17:17] <unagi> !wine > sigma16
[17:18] <Arwen> sigma16, old versions
[17:18] <Arwen> and new versions kind of
[17:18] <sigma16> so if i use wine i can use windows programs?
[17:18] <unagi> not that simple
[17:19] <sigma16> darn
[17:19] <sigma16> :p
[17:19] <unagi> accelerated programs wont run or as efficient
[17:19] <unagi> same with anything on vmware the performance is significantly cut on most
[17:19] <unagi> but alot of games and apps will run
[17:19] <unagi> wine-hq.com
[17:19] <ol_dude67> i run a vmware-server if i need windows.
[17:19] <sigma16> downloading wine
[17:19] <unagi> vmware is too slow for me
[17:20] <sigma16> yo how do i make a boot screen to chose betwene hard drives for booting?
[17:20] <ol_dude67> unagi, old computer?
[17:20] <unagi> no
[17:20] <unagi> i just require alot of power
[17:20] <ol_dude67> ah, lol
[17:21] <unagi> i use maya, vegas, shake, all sorts of cpu hungry things
[17:21] <unagi> fl studio is the lowest cpu hungry one id use, but as soon as i add a poly instrument it got choppy
[17:21] <ol_dude67> as where i just k.i.s.s for me
[17:27] <Raizard> How can i delete links in the K menu?
[17:27] <flipstar> right click->edit
[17:27] <flipstar> then delete
[17:28] <Raizard> Done
[17:28] <Raizard> thz a lot!!
[17:28] <Raizard> thx*
[17:31] <Arwen> is there a way to cap the amount of bandwidth a particular process can use?
[17:32] <unagi> is kde 4 not officially out?
[17:32] <Arwen> it is
[17:32] <Arwen> it's just, well...
[17:32] <unagi> interesting
[17:33] <unagi> the repos gave me 3
[17:33] <flipstar> 4.0.1 will also soon be released
[17:33] <Arwen> unagi, it's in some kind of external repository
[17:33] <flipstar> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[17:33] <unagi> well
[17:33] <unagi> i assumed i was on 4 because it was very visually appealing
[17:34] <Arwen> hehe
[17:34] <sigma16> back
[17:34] <sigma16> unagi
[17:34] <sigma16> how do i make a boot screen
[17:34] <sigma16> i got multiple hard drives.... with diff partitions on each..
[17:34] <unagi> grub
[17:34] <unagi> !grub
[17:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:34] <sigma16> ok how do i use it lol
[17:35] <unagi> ..........
[17:35] <unagi> you click the link
[17:35] <unagi> and read
[17:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ...a lost art, that.
[17:36] <ol_dude67> so true
[17:36] <sigma16> >_<
[17:40] <RobotGuy> Is there any way to unlock the root acount under Kubuntu? I'm sick of this sudo stuff.
[17:40] <jussi01> !root
[17:40] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:41] <RobotGuy> I've read all that.
[17:41] <jussi01> RobotGuy: we dont support root passwords in here.
[17:41] <RobotGuy> You mean Kubuntu doesn't support root passwords, right?
[17:41] <jussi01> !supportroot
[17:41] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[17:42] <flipstar> root has no password
[17:42] <RobotGuy> Fine, Debian or Gentoo it will be for me then.
[17:42] <Arwen> RobotGuy, you can add a root password if you want, can't see why it matters one way or the other though.
[17:43] <alesan> I use kubuntu as root (graphical login). I have never understood what's wrong with it. I do not want to convince anybody tough.
[17:46] <muesli> alesan: what's wrong with it: if there's a malevolent application (trojan whatever), it'd have access to your entire system and could wipe it or install hooks you'd never find out
[17:46] <faris> Hey, I installed kde4 on ubuntu, it works fine but  gnome seems to be running in the background I sometimes see glimpses of the gnome background anyone know why?
[17:46] <faris> *gnome desktop
[17:46] <muesli> alesan: if that's happening to you while running as a normal user, then you might lose your data, but it couldn't fuck with the system.
[17:46] <jussi01> faris: kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[17:47] <alesan> muesli: I don't give a damn to the system. I can reinstall any time. what is *really* important to me is my data (that is what I have backups for).
[17:47] <alesan> but, as I said before I do not want to convince anybody. Sorry this is a guaranteed flame, I won't continue talking about it
[17:48] <alesan> I'll go to eat some pizza instead :)
[17:48] <alesan> bye
[17:51] <Daisuke_Ido> !language | muesli
[17:51] <ubotu> muesli: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:55] <|Dreams|> when will hardy heron be released?
[17:55] <flipstar> april,2008
[17:55] <|Dreams|> okay thanks
[17:55] <flipstar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[17:55] <|Dreams|> cant wait
[17:56] <muesli> Daisuke_Ido: ?
[17:56] <flipstar> just try the alpha then ;)
[17:56] <muesli> Daisuke_Ido: elaborate. what's the silly warning for?
[17:56] <|Dreams|> i prefer it to be stable as i aint no linux guru lol
[17:58] <|Dreams|> whats the best way to learn linux as in from a sys admin point of view.. any good sites
[17:58] <|Dreams|> i kno www.tldp.com
[17:58] <|Dreams|> oops typo
[17:59] <|Dreams|> tldp.org
[18:00] <gangalee> I just pasted my Xserver specs
[18:00] <gangalee> I can't get it going, somebody please help
[18:01] <adz21c> where did u paste them?
[18:01] <sigma16> ok
[18:01] <gangalee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53873/
[18:01] <sigma16> ok
[18:01] <sigma16> for some reason
[18:02] <sigma16> my pc freaks out if i have my linux hd hooked up as my primary and my windows as secondary
[18:02] <sigma16> it starts making noises and the screen gets messed up
[18:02] <sigma16> and it wont boot
[18:02] <adz21c> gangalee: whats the reason it gives for not starting?
[18:03] <gangalee> no screens
[18:03] <ol_dude67> sigma16,windows partitions like to be on the first partition
[18:03] <sigma16> yea obviously... but i cant boot my linux if its the first one...
[18:03] <sigma16> it doesnt let me..
[18:04] <sigma16> and idk how to use grub....
[18:04] <adz21c> gangalee: if you type startx what does it say?
[18:04] <sigma16> >_<
[18:04] <ol_dude67> sigma16,if you know that windows has to be first then why are you trying to change it?
[18:05] <gangalee> adz21c: it bombs out and eventually returns to the no screens error
[18:05] <sigma16> cuz it refuses to let me boot enything but windows when its first...
[18:05] <gangalee> let me try it locally
[18:06] <sigma16> idk how to setup grub or use grub to get me a screent to select the OS
[18:06] <DoomGuard> hi all
[18:07] <Daisuke_Ido> muesli - your use of the f-word.  it's not welcome in here
[18:07] <konih> paki
[18:08] <DoomGuard> i found a bug in Kubuntu 7.10 and want to confirm it
[18:09] <muesli> Daisuke_Ido: i think you misunderstood the rules. i didn't insult anyone, i said "fuck with the system"
[18:10] <unagi> does kubuntu seriously remember your session when you shut down and restore it when you log back in?
[18:10] <Arwen> unagi, kind of
[18:10] <muesli> Daisuke_Ido: if that's not welcome in here, i suggest you better start patching kubuntu, since it's all over the place in my source codes and even the kernel ;-)
[18:10] <Arwen> it can remember what applications were running and restart them
[18:10] <unagi> thats crazy
[18:10] <unagi> ugh how do i turn up the brightness on my laptop =(
[18:10] <ol_dude67> muesli, this is a family oriented channel, thats why they said to watch your language,
[18:11] <muesli> is there something like #kubuntu-normal-people then? ;-0
[18:11] <Arwen> yes, in fact there is
[18:11] <unagi> um..........what do you mean by normal
[18:11] <emilsedgh> normall?
[18:12] <unagi> what are you trying to say
[18:12] <unagi> that if you have a mind towards family values then you arent normal?
[18:12] <muesli> Arwen: haha :)
[18:12] <unagi> and people wonder why the world is going down the drain
[18:12] <Riddell> oh children
[18:12] <unagi> because family values isnt normal....
[18:12] <Riddell> Amarok developers have a different view on normal than many people :)
[18:13]  * Riddell hugs muesli 
[18:13] <muesli> oh gosh, don't take me too seriously please :-)
[18:13] <muesli> Riddell: hey! :)
[18:13] <unagi> how do you turn up the brightness in kbuntu
[18:13] <ol_dude67> unagi, turn the light on :D
[18:13] <adz21c> should be under systemsettings -> display if anywhere
[18:14] <unagi> sigh
[18:14] <unagi> and if its not then,,,,,,,,,i dont get brightness
[18:14] <emilsedgh> unagi: click on your batterry in system tray
[18:14] <unagi> in gnome the keys do it
[18:14] <unagi> ah there it is
[18:14] <unagi> now.........how do i get the brightness keys to work
[18:15] <adz21c> i think kmilo does extra keys on laptops
[18:15] <unagi> !kmilo
[18:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmilo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:15] <unagi> !info kmilo
[18:15] <ubotu> kmilo (source: kdeutils): laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB
[18:16] <unagi> odd........says it is installed but i cannot start it
[18:16] <adz21c> i think it has a daemon
[18:16] <adz21c> look in service manager
[18:16] <unagi> service manager is where?
[18:17] <adz21c> system settings
[18:17] <unagi> services-admin?
[18:17] <adz21c> think its under advanced
[18:18] <mefisto__> has anyone tried firefox-3.0? seems quite fast and stable already
[18:18] <unagi> i dont see kmilo or kdeutils or anything similar
[18:18] <muesli> Riddell: coming to london anytime soon again?
[18:18] <Riddell> muesli: not if I can help it :)
[18:19] <adz21c> unagi: I see it here ... and i am not even on a laptop lol
[18:19] <Riddell> muesli: but probably in another six months for the next sprint, want to show me around the last offices?
[18:19] <muesli> Riddell: understandably ;-) gimme a shout if you should do. i still regret that it didn't work out meeting you the last time
[18:19] <unagi> oh wow i missed ti
[18:19] <unagi> there it is
[18:19] <jussi01> Riddell: got a moment for a quick pm?
[18:19] <unagi> so what do i do with it
[18:19] <muesli> Riddell: sure, you'll enjoy our ballpit :)
[18:19] <Riddell> jussi01: ok
[18:20] <adz21c> unagi: is it running?
[18:20] <unagi> yes
[18:20] <muesli> Riddell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastfm/2126852897/ <- amarok developers having fun
[18:20] <adz21c> unagi: dunno then, might be worth launching kcontrol and seeing if u have to configure anything in there
[18:20] <adz21c> unagi: figured it would just do it
[18:21] <edisson81> ciao
[18:22] <Riddell> muesli: you have a ball pool in your office?!
[18:22] <muesli> Riddell: yeah. obviously lots of alcohol was involved when planning it...
[18:23] <muesli> but it turned out being a great idea. lots of productive meetings in there ;-)
[18:23] <Riddell> muesli: genius!
[18:24] <redbeard1> can someone tell me how to get java and VLC cia sudo apt-get?
[18:24] <redbeard1> via*
[18:24] <jussi01> redbeard1: you need to add multiverse repo
[18:25] <redbeard1> kk
[18:25] <unagi> lspaul -m shows the keys correct
[18:30] <unagi> to be honest if i cant get fn keys in kde ill probably stick with gnome
[18:31] <smeril> what is the uninstall command?
[18:31] <gtt> cd / && rm -f -R *
[18:32] <TimS> gtt
[18:32] <TimS> No.
[18:32] <gtt> are you sure?
[18:32] <TimS> Very.
[18:32] <gtt> sigh.... ok.
[18:33] <TimS> smeril: What do you want to uninstall?
[18:33] <smeril> sun micro
[18:33] <gtt> unagi: Fnkeys work fine in KDE..
[18:33] <TimS> I am not sure then
[18:34] <TimS> Hey jussi01
[18:35] <jussi01> hiya TimS
[18:35] <TimS> I am surprised at myself, i haven't needed support for a while :p
[18:35] <jussi01> :)
[18:37] <unagi> omg kde crashes WAY too much
[18:37] <unagi> or rather things in kde
[18:37] <unagi> not kde it self
[18:37] <ubuntu_> hi, I need help. I have my system down and have booted with Kubuntu livecd. I have mounted my home partition and now am creating a new user in console so that I can login and restore my session. I type this command: useradd -p test -d /media/user1/home user1  when I logout and login the password test is not recognized. Is there something wrong I am doing?
[18:38] <unagi> thats it.........im done with kubuntu for a while
[18:38] <unagi> bye everyone
[18:38] <ubuntu_> moreover, if I wish to get back into livecd, what user and password should I use?
[18:42] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: that won't work
[18:42] <ubuntu_> ScorpKing: I was told that this will work. How to do so in your openion?
[18:43] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: hmm.. i've missread there.
[18:43] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: can you boot from the hard drive?
[18:44] <ubuntu_> no
[18:44] <ubuntu_> this is why I am working for now from livecd
[18:45] <mefisto__> why are you trying to create a new user? how will this help you boot?
[18:45] <ScorpKing> o ok. try " sudo adduser test " sudo mount /dev/<yourhomedisk> /home/test
[18:46] <anakin_> Hello all, i cannot find beryl in universe repo- its enabled in synaptic's config
[18:46] <ScorpKing> or you can just log out of the ubuntu user and mount you home directory from the disk over /home/ubuntu
[18:46] <ubuntu_> ScorpKing: s this command correct then? useradd -d /media/user1/home <username>
[18:47] <ScorpKing> not sure. check the manpages but logging in as your user won't enable you to fix anything
[18:48] <jussi01> !beryl | anakin_
[18:48] <ubotu> anakin_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:48] <ubuntu_> what if I wish to get back into live cd. What is the live cd username and password?
[18:49] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: you can mount your root partition of your hard drive on say /mnt/ and then just sudo chmod /mnt/ and fix it from there
[18:50] <ubuntu_> 0k
[18:50] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: i think getting the disk to boot wil be better
[18:51] <ubuntu_> ok, must logout now
[18:51] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: does it not boot? or just no way to login?
[18:51] <ubuntu_> thanks
[18:51] <ubuntu_> does not boot at all
[18:51] <ubuntu_> b/c using gentoo
[18:51] <ubuntu_> got to logout sorry
[19:01] <alteregolio> hey beavis. check it out! diapers for adults
[19:01] <hydrogen> ...
[19:11] <pd_> como instalar ubuntu en un lapto con solo 64 Mb de memoria Ram?
[19:12] <pd_> la tengo comn millenium
[19:12] <hellhound> i need help trying to get my users access to my samba share....only the windows box works... but not the kubuntu box.... my fstab is //192.168.0.3/borgfiles /media/TheBorg smb defaults 0 0
[19:12] <pd_> quiero emigrar
[19:12] <smeril> is it good to install sun micro?
[19:12] <ThomasD> !es|pd_
[19:12] <ubotu> pd_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:13] <pd_> #ubuntu-es
[19:14] <H_O_S> Hello ! gksu "update-manager -c" does not bring up the possibility of upgading from dapper to edgy why is this ?
[19:14] <smeril> how can i create my own irc channel?
[19:14] <alteregolio> you need to cook it
[19:14] <alteregolio> using 2fl of grapewine
[19:15] <alteregolio> and a 1/4 piece of cake
[19:15] <H_O_S> and at 250 degrees
[19:15] <smeril> haha
[19:15] <H_O_S> simply join the channel for first
[19:15] <smeril> in what menu?
[19:16] <alteregolio> type
[19:16] <alteregolio> type _/join #channelname
[19:16] <alteregolio> withouth underscores
[19:17] <H_O_S> alteregolio: since you are the only one around :P do you have an idea why gksu "update-manager -c" does not affer me the possibilty to oupgrade my system ?
[19:17] <hellhound> i need help trying to get my users access to my samba share....only the windows box works... but not the kubuntu box.... my fstab is //192.168.0.3/borgfiles /media/TheBorg smb defaults 0 0
[19:18] <rambo> c'è qualche italiano?
[19:18] <Arwen> Does anyone know if Kubuntu is compatible with wooden volume knobs? This is a must as my high end audio equipment must function perfectly. Wooden Volume Knob (http://web.archive.org/web/20070418101827/http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C)
[19:18] <smeril> i want to make my own channel
[19:18] <Arwen> smeril, join a channel that doesn't exist and FreeNode will make it for you
[19:18] <Arwen> e.g. /join #smeril
[19:19] <smeril> do i type in the ip of the person
[19:20] <smeril> i understand now thanks
[19:20] <Arwen> ...
[19:25] <H_O_S> gksu "update-manager -c" does not bring up the possibility of upgading from dapper to edgy why is this ? gksu "update-manager -c -d" works but  i need to update releases one by one
[19:26] <flipstar> try sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade
[19:27] <H_O_S> update-manager: error: no such option: --dist-upgrade
[19:29] <mefisto__> sudo update-manager --check-dist-upgrades
[19:30] <flipstar> similar as the -c option
[19:31] <H_O_S> sudo update-manager --check-dist-upgrades didn't work i got the usual system is up to date
[19:32] <flipstar> hm why dont you give apt a try ?
[19:32] <flipstar> sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:33] <H_O_S> because its notthe recommende way to upgrade ? lool
[19:33] <jussi01> flipstar: that wont upgrade you from one release to the next...
[19:33] <tashiro_> upgrading feisty to gutsy? @<H_O_S>
[19:33] <flipstar> dapper to edgy
[19:34] <H_O_S> yep dapper to edgy
[19:35] <tashiro_> try opening kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in konsole and change all instances of dapper to edgy
[19:36] <tashiro_> then do the "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" thingy
[19:36] <H_O_S> okee thanks i'll try that out
[19:36] <g-hennux> hi!
[19:36] <g-hennux> where does knetworkmanager store the settings i made for vpn and such?
[19:39] <tashiro_> i just downloaded a divx movie with axel but i cant locate it any ideas
[19:39] <ScorpKing> g-hennux: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:39] <stk8> what is the vomand for installing debian menu?
[19:39] <stk8> comand
[19:40] <ScorpKing> tashiro_: you know the filename it's saved under?
[19:40] <tashiro_> no idea sorry
[19:41] <flipstar> tashiro_: it should be in you current path
[19:41] <g-hennux> ScorpKing: nothing in there, except for lo
[19:41] <gangalee> got it working after the feisty upgrade!
[19:42] <ScorpKing> g-hennux: maybe ~.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc ?
[19:45] <g-hennux> ScorpKing: no, not there.
[19:45] <venik> I have a USB external drive (formatted as VFAT) that I can access through Krusader (as root only) but which is invisible to eh Storage System, so Dolphin cannot see it.
[19:45] <venik> How do I get normal access to it?
[19:46] <g-hennux> ScorpKing: and also not under root's homedir
[19:46] <ScorpKing> g-hennux: then i don't know. :(
[19:46] <ScorpKing> venik: how do you mount it?
[19:47] <venik> I use mountman from Krusader
[19:47] <ScorpKing> hmm.. add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options
[19:47] <venik> In 7.04 I could use it OK, but in 7.10 I am having this problem
[19:48] <ScorpKing> venik: you are mounting it as root so only root can see it unless you tell it to give users permossion
[19:48] <ScorpKing> permission*
[19:52] <venik> I did not mount it as root
[19:53] <ScorpKing> then it's listed in /etc/fstab
[19:53] <venik> Now it is complaining that it is unmounted
[19:53] <ScorpKing> !fat
[19:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[19:53] <venik> but I can neither mount nor unmount it
[19:54] <ScorpKing> read there ^
[19:54] <olskolirc> how come I can't load kdm themes to my kdm manager please?  nothing shows up
[19:55] <olskolirc> im on Gutsy
[19:57] <venik> Is it safe to run the diskmounter script?
[19:57] <venik> I am running KDE
[20:00] <Snew> me too
[20:00] <Snew> obvisioly its an Kubuntu channel
[20:01] <ScorpKing> venik: try and see if you can set it up in kcontrol
[20:02] <venik> I have tried many times
[20:02] <venik> everything looks OK there, as far as I can tell
[20:02] <ScorpKing> venik: do it manually then. edit /etc/fstab and add an entry for your disk there
[20:03] <venik> I do not know how to do that
[20:03] <venik> since it used to work, fstab already has some stuff for this drive
[20:03] <ScorpKing> ah ok. i'll walk you trough it ;)
[20:03] <venik> great
[20:04] <ScorpKing> can you pastebin your /etc/fstab for me?
[20:04] <ScorpKing> !paste
[20:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:04] <venik> sure-- one sec
[20:05] <venik> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53892/
[20:05] <ScorpKing> hmm.. looks a bit not-so-right ;) one sec..
[20:06] <venik> The offending drive is LACIE
[20:06] <venik> the others work fine
[20:07] <ScorpKing> do you know what /dev/ ? that is?
[20:07] <venik> I think sdd1
[20:07] <ScorpKing> ok
[20:08] <venik> at least according to Kcontrol
[20:08] <ScorpKing> in konsole type - kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[20:09] <venik> I have it
[20:09] <venik> it is open in Kate
[20:09] <ScorpKing> change that line to - /dev/sdd1 /media/LACIE vfat users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,exec,suid 0 0
[20:09] <venik> u mean the LACIE line?
[20:09] <ScorpKing> yes
[20:10] <venik> ok, I did
[20:10] <ScorpKing> save it
[20:10] <venik> I did
[20:10] <ScorpKing> in konsole type - mount /dev/sdd1
[20:11] <venik> ok
[20:11] <ScorpKing> any errors?
[20:11] <venik> no errors, but I still do not see LACIE in the Storage System
[20:11] <ScorpKing> now type ls -l /media/LACIE/
[20:11] <psycholic> why do i get this error when i try to udate with apt get
[20:11] <psycholic> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[20:12] <venik> Command not found...
[20:12] <ScorpKing> psycholic: run it from konsole - sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:12] <venik> sorry-- my mistake
[20:13] <venik> I got the directory of LACIE on the terminal, but the whole point was to see it in the storage system, or in Dolphin
[20:13] <ScorpKing> venik: what's the user and permissions there?
[20:13] <tashiro_> Dude do i cant find a file i just downloaded with axel any ideas? @ <scorpking>
[20:14] <ScorpKing> tashiro_: download it again
[20:14] <ScorpKing> :P
[20:14] <tashiro_> i did that like 3 times already
[20:15] <ScorpKing> look where you save it
[20:15] <venik> Scor-- where do I look?
[20:15] <tashiro_> all my other  files go to my home folder
[20:15] <ScorpKing> venik: in /media/LACIE
[20:16] <tashiro_> for some reason it stores my divx files in /. directories and sumtimes not at all
[20:16] <ScorpKing> tashiro_: what is the file called? what file is it? .zip? .avi?
[20:16] <tashiro_> .divx
[20:16] <flipstar> try locate .divx
[20:17] <ScorpKing> tashiro_: sudo updatedb fisrt
[20:17] <tashiro_> lemme try dat
[20:17] <ScorpKing> first*
[20:17] <ScorpKing> venik: what do you see if you type just - mount ?
[20:18] <venik> OK-- now it is all back the way it is SUPPOSED to be.  All I did was unmount my flash USB drive, and that "fixed" the LACIE drive
[20:18] <venik> I had seen this sort of unholy interaction b4
[20:19] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:19] <Arwen> huh, apparently Photoshop CS2 runs in WINE now. Man I missed out on a lot.
[20:19] <senorpedro> is it possible to switch workspaces just by pointing to the right or left edge of the window?
[20:19] <ScorpKing> venik: haha. glad to hear :)
[20:19] <psycholic> nice looks like its working thanks
[20:19] <tekteen> senorpedro: that is better in theory then practice
[20:19] <venik> Now the USB drive is in the Storage System, and all is well, (probably until the next time I use a flash drive
[20:20] <tekteen> senorpedro: it is annoying
[20:20] <venik> thanks for your help, ScorpKing
[20:20] <senorpedro> tekteen: i need it for surviving
[20:20] <tekteen> Compiz can do it
[20:20] <senorpedro> how  can i activate it??
[20:20] <senorpedro> i need it in kwin
[20:20] <ScorpKing> venik: you're welcome. i don't have an entry for my usb drive in fstab btw.
[20:20] <tekteen> sorry
[20:21] <tashiro_> im out fellas peace
[20:21] <tekteen> only compiz does it. But it is as good as focus on mouse over
[20:21] <tekteen> In theory great
[20:21] <venik> The two USB drives plug into the same USB hub-- maybe that is why they interact...
[20:22] <bmk789> k3b is screwing up burning the same 2 files on 3 different ISOs, whats wrong here?
[20:24] <cps1966> ! java
[20:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:26] <psycholic> how do i enable kde 4.0
[20:26] <flipstar> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[20:27] <jussi01> !kde4 | psycholic
[20:27] <ubotu> psycholic: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:28] <psycholic> right on thanks
[20:30] <some_dude> hey
[20:30] <some_dude> i need help
[20:30] <jussi01> !ask | some_dude
[20:30] <ubotu> some_dude: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:30] <some_dude> I'm getting mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[20:30] <some_dude> I did not ask, I did a prologe
[20:31] <psycholic> so i just add that deb line to the bottem of sources.list
[20:33] <jussi01> psycholic: yes, and btw kde4 suport is in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:33] <psycholic> ok thanks
[20:39] <cps1966> !java
[20:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:40] <sparrw> anyone else notice that the webmailcompose extension has stopped working with gmail lately?  the gmail "Loading..." page appears, and never goes farther.  This is [approx] since I upgraded to ubuntu gutsy.
[20:47] <arrrghhh> hey all, firefox3 is in the repos for ubuntu but only alpha 8.  what's the easiest way to upgrade it to beta 2?
[20:48] <fivetwentysix> Why can't I mount my Windows partitions
[20:49] <ScorpKing> !ntfs | fivetwentysix
[20:49] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:49] <fivetwentysix> It returns with error: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all options refused uid 10000
[20:49] <ScorpKing> 1000 not 10000
[20:49] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: does he need to be root
[20:50] <arrrghhh> fivetwentysix: go to system settings, advanced, and disks & file systems
[20:50] <flipstar> arrrghhh: you can download ff from http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b2/linux-i686/en-US/
[20:50] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: 1000 is your uid
[20:50] <flipstar> it comes as binary
[20:50] <fivetwentysix> Yeah, why isn't it prompting me to login as root..
[20:50] <arrrghhh> flipstar: i have it downloaded, it's a .tar.gz.  what's the easiest way to update from alpha 8 to beta 2?  alpha 8 was in the repos, but beta 2 is better
[20:50] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: try sudo
[20:50] <fivetwentysix> Sorry I meant 1000
[20:51] <flipstar> arrrghhh: just link the firefox icon to the new firefox
[20:51] <DoomGuard> hey i found a bug in kubuntu that caused small squares to appear on your desktop where can i report it
[20:51] <ScorpKing> fivetwentysix: no idea then. try to mount it manually
[20:51] <flipstar> extract it before that of corse
[20:51] <arrrghhh> i want to overwrite my alpha 8 install
[20:52] <fivetwentysix> tekteen: I don't know the command to mount a harddrive.
[20:52] <flipstar> dont know how to do this..but it uses the old profile anyway
[20:52] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: sudo mount -a
[20:53] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab
[20:54] <tekteen> !pastebin | fivetwentysix
[20:54] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:55] <fivetwentysix> tekteen ok
[20:55] <tekteen> what is the URL?
[20:55] <gregor> Hi tekteen:)
[20:55] <tekteen> gregor: hi
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> tekteen: http://pastebin.ca/876493
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> i'm trying to mount sda2
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> and sda1
[20:57] <tekteen> ok
[20:57] <arrrghhh> fivetwentysix: i'd just go thru disks & filesystems in the system settings applet
[20:57] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: ok
[20:58] <fivetwentysix> arrrghhh: That's what I'm doing.
[20:58] <arrrghhh> fivetwentysix: and you create a mount point and enable it?
[20:59] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: type the following in the konsole. sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[21:00] <ubuntu_> is there anyway of replacing Dolphin by Konquer on Gutsy?
[21:00] <ubuntu_> I prefer Konqueror do Dolphin
[21:01] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: did you put in the command?
[21:03] <jussi01> !dolphin | ubuntu_
[21:03] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[21:05] <fivetwentysix> tekteen: yeah i got it working
[21:05] <trond> !kde4
[21:05] <fivetwentysix> but i accidently mounted a drive to <mount point>
[21:05] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:06] <fivetwentysix> and couldn't figure out how to unmount
[21:06] <fivetwentysix> So i tried deleting the folder
[21:06] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: bad idea
[21:06] <fivetwentysix> and it started deleting the contents of hte harddrive after i disabled the write permission
[21:06] <flipstar> ouch
[21:06] <fivetwentysix> shit!
[21:06] <fivetwentysix> I have no idea what it deleted
[21:06] <jussi01> !language | fivetwentysix
[21:06] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: umount <mountpoint>
[21:07] <tekteen> Was it read only
[21:07] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:07] <smeril> when i restarted my computer it said that it was started witout admin rights what is the output from that?
[21:07] <tekteen> if so nothing was deleted
[21:07] <tekteen> It just was trying
[21:07] <fivetwentysix> tekteen: no i disabled it before unmounting
[21:07] <fivetwentysix> it wasn't reading correctly in the system settings
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> so i couldn't disable it there
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> and i guess any settings i made didn't go through
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> it did delete files
[21:08] <tekteen> oh
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> Oh well
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> I don't mind formatting windows again
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> lol
[21:08] <tekteen> lol
[21:08] <gregor> :-D
[21:08] <fivetwentysix> but installing vista is a pain
[21:09] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: if I may explain the idea behind mounting
[21:09] <tekteen> the idea is to put the drive on the system
[21:10] <DoomGuard> Where can i report a bug  ithink i found????????????????
[21:10] <tekteen> if you delete. the computer does not know the diff between a mounted drive and the linux drive
[21:10] <tekteen> !bug
[21:10] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[21:10] <DoomGuard> thx
[21:10] <Daisuke_Ido> hi, i know this is offtopic, but i just got fired.  have a nice day!
[21:10] <DoomGuard> lolz
[21:10] <tekteen> why?
[21:11] <Daisuke_Ido> because my boss was a ****
[21:11] <ScorpKing> lol. sorry to hear
[21:11] <smeril> it was when i was installing a few packets my and my computer freazed and it didnt finish the process to more than 20% from the packet manager and after the restart my admin rights was gone
[21:11] <tekteen> smeril: do you have the live cd?
[21:12] <smeril> no i dont have it at the moment
[21:12] <tekteen> ok
[21:12] <tekteen> I have de-admined myself
[21:12] <smeril> is that maybe a part of the problem?
[21:12] <tekteen> playing with stuff
[21:12] <smeril> haha
[21:12] <tekteen> What I do is use a live cd
[21:13] <tekteen> mount the linux drive
[21:13] <smeril> how?
[21:13] <tekteen> edit /etc/group(s?)
[21:13] <tekteen> not sure if it is group
[21:13] <tekteen> or groups
[21:13] <sigma16> whats the bestest thing about linux iyo?
[21:13] <tekteen> and add my user to the admin group
[21:15] <Daisuke_Ido> stability
[21:15] <sigma16> besides the obvious things
[21:15] <sigma16> like
[21:15] <sigma16> stability no viruses...
[21:15] <tekteen> Being able to play with the system
[21:16] <tekteen> being able to change it how you want
[21:16] <tekteen> and if you are not tech. savvy?
[21:16] <tekteen> Using other peoples mods
[21:16] <sigma16> :p
[21:16] <sigma16> im new to linux... not to programming...
[21:17] <sigma16> well i only did php and other related programing
[21:17] <tekteen> ok
[21:17] <tekteen> I am learning to compile kernels
[21:22] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:23] <tekteen> hi
[21:24] <fivetwentysix> Grr
[21:24] <fivetwentysix> Adept won't run because something is using apt
[21:24] <fivetwentysix> And i just restarted
[21:24] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[21:24] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:25] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: follow it. ubotu is smart
[21:25] <fivetwentysix> Thanks
[21:25] <tekteen> ubotu is very smart
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is very smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:25] <tekteen> nm
[21:25] <tekteen> :-D
[21:25] <Agent_bob> :)
[21:25] <fivetwentysix> Now he sounds dumb!
[21:25] <tekteen> That is why I did it
[21:26] <tekteen> I knew the bot would say that
[21:26] <Agent_bob> ubotu hello
[21:26] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:26] <fivetwentysix> ubotu being dumb
[21:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being dumb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <tekteen> lol
[21:27] <sigma16> whats the thing u use most on ur linux pc?
[21:27] <tekteen> firefox
[21:27] <flipstar> the kernel
[21:27] <some_dude> firefox
[21:27] <tekteen> flipstar is right
[21:27] <sigma16> that is unique to a linux pc...
[21:27] <Agent_bob> definitely the kernel
[21:27] <tekteen> kde
[21:27] <sigma16> and is not something u would most likely find on any pc in the world..
[21:28] <some_dude> kdernel
[21:28] <tekteen> lol
[21:28] <some_dude> give them time
[21:28] <tekteen> gcc
[21:28] <tekteen> lol
[21:28] <some_dude> do you run windows or linux, nither i run de
[21:28] <some_dude> kde
[21:28] <sigma16> kubuntu should be sold on desktops from a store...
[21:29] <tekteen> sigma16: ubuntu got the glory
[21:29] <sigma16> and not only available to the computer savvy who search the web for these things..
[21:29] <sigma16> it annoys me microsoft dominates..
[21:29] <tekteen> yep
[21:30] <sigma16> especially when their OS sux and they charge outragiously for it...
[21:30] <sigma16> one windows 98 that will be 500$...
[21:30] <sigma16> have a nice day...
[21:30]  * Agent_bob cares not who rules the ignorant.   just don't try to make linux into an M$ clone.
[21:30] <sigma16> why would i
[21:30] <JoshOvki> but they lead the market so they can charge what they want
[21:30] <some_dude> I want my windows apps to run on linux
[21:31] <some_dude> and don't say wine, because it's not even close
[21:31] <trpr> then give up. unless the apps are crossplatform its not going to happen
[21:31] <tekteen> It may happen
[21:32] <ScorpKing> !windows
[21:32] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[21:32] <tekteen> with kde for windows/mac
[21:32] <Agent_bob> some_dude depends on the particular app.  for some apps wine does a very nice job.  for the rest .... forget it.
[21:32] <trpr> it may happen through wine :P
[21:32] <some_dude> i really want my kde sexy
[21:32] <JoshOvki> the minority of the world is on linux, its not in most developers interest to make crossplatform programs
[21:32] <tekteen> some_dude: kde4
[21:32] <some_dude> sexy and stable
[21:32] <sparrw> ive got a jpeg, i need to put it in a pdf for (reliable from poorly configured linux) printing.  what can i use to do that?
[21:32] <tekteen> some_dude: kde 4.1
[21:32] <sigma16> none of the linux developers even bother to try and compete with microsoft...
[21:33] <some_dude> for some reason apt-get install kde.4.1 fails
[21:33] <tekteen> some_dude: lol
[21:33]  * trpr screams.
[21:33] <flipstar> kde 4.1 will be released soon
[21:33] <sigma16> i mean like if they make a flipin cmomercial and pos tit on a widely viewed tv channel theyd get a ton of people lookin at it
[21:33] <some_dude> define soon
[21:33] <tekteen> 6 months
[21:33] <ScorpKing> !ot
[21:33] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:33] <flipstar> what ? no few days
[21:33] <sigma16> is 4.0 beta or is it stable
[21:33] <flipstar> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules
[21:34] <sigma16> ??
[21:34] <Agent_bob> sigma16 NO
[21:34] <sigma16> no to what
[21:34] <Agent_bob> both
[21:34] <flipstar> 06 February 2008: Releasing 4.0.1
[21:34] <sigma16> so what i sbetter 3 or 4
[21:34] <tekteen> 4 will be
[21:35] <tekteen> but is not now
[21:35] <Agent_bob> sigma16 if all you want is some "eyecandy" 4  if you want everything to work 3.
[21:35] <jpatrick> !kde4 | sigma16, flipstar
[21:35] <ubotu> sigma16, flipstar: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:35] <maxim000> Hello. What mean - Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-maxim000" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[21:35] <maxim000> in apt.log
[21:35] <vbgunz> is there a way to get a list of applications I *EXPLICITLY* installed?
[21:35] <maxim000> dist-upgrade
[21:36] <Agent_bob> maxim000 means you own the dir
[21:36] <FaiDillinGer> i do love kubuntu
[21:36] <Agent_bob> !chown
[21:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:36] <maxim000> how to fix it?
[21:36] <Skyloto> hmm, I get all kind of errors
[21:36] <FaiDillinGer> im amazed everyday
[21:36] <flipstar> vbgunz: dpkg --get-selections
[21:36] <Skyloto> for example errors with installing update packages
[21:36] <vbgunz> flipstar: that gets every package no?
[21:37] <flipstar> yes it does
[21:37] <Skyloto> an error that I' m already running a software management tool
[21:37] <Skyloto> which isn't true
[21:37] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[21:37] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:37] <Agent_bob> maxim000 try logging out.  opening a console and "rm -r /var/tmp/kdecache-maxim000"   if the same problem persists  then you have found a bug.
[21:38] <vbgunz> flipstar: not that, packages I explicitly requested for installation, not libraries, dependencies or what comes with kubuntu by default... the cruft that I installed and lost track of
[21:38] <Agent_bob> maxim000 and if you have found a bug, report it and for a work around chown the dir
[21:39] <Agent_bob> maxim000 note that things in /tmp are temporary
[21:39] <flipstar> vbgunz: no dont know how to realize that..
[21:39] <vbgunz> flipstar: heh, me too
[21:40] <vbgunz> anyone know how to get a list of the applications I explicitly installed MINUS libraries, dependencies and what kubuntu installs by default or is required?
[21:41] <Agent_bob> vbgunz you might pars it out of /var/log/dpkg*
[21:41] <tekteen> vbgunz: why?
[21:41] <Skyloto> how do I close applications like 'update manager', 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' while I haven't opened them?
[21:41] <ScorpKing> vbgunz: you want to install the same apps on a different box?
[21:41] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrash | Skyloto
[21:41] <ubotu> Skyloto: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:42] <Skyloto> oh right
[21:42] <vbgunz> I've had ubuntu for so long, I have plenty of stuff installed from a very long time and would like to uninstall the stuff I do not use
[21:42] <jpatrick> vbgunz: maybe: sudo apt-get autoremove?
[21:42] <flipstar> just go to adept_manager and select only installed packages..
[21:43] <vbgunz> jpatrick: heh, not exactly :)
[21:43] <Agent_bob> vbgunz unless you are pressed for disk space,   that's futile
[21:43] <vbgunz> these apps are working fine, I just have plenty I don't need :)
[21:43] <jpatrick> vbgunz: it removes unneeded packages
[21:43] <Skyloto> thanks
[21:44] <Agent_bob> apt-get autoremove
[21:44] <Agent_bob> E: Invalid operation autoremove
[21:44] <vbgunz> jpatrick: I understand, I am trying to remove packages that will not get picked up by it, stuff I installed and most likely forgot
[21:44] <flipstar> vbgunz: you can use adept_manager to scroll installed apps
[21:44] <vbgunz> flipstar: yeah am doing that, am trying to figure out tags to filter by now
[21:44] <ScorpKing> anyone here know how unreal tournament runs on linux?
[21:44] <kaminix> What's updated in the most recent kdelibs packages in buntu
[21:45] <kaminix> *buntu repos
[21:45] <jpatrick> !info kdelibs hardy | kaminix
[21:45] <vbgunz> am looking for a tag that says something along the lines of "REQUIRED" so I can filter against it, heh, something like that
[21:45] <ubotu> kaminix: kdelibs (source: kdelibs): core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-4ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 9 kB, installed size 96 kB
[21:46] <Agent_bob> vbgunz are you sure ?   the required packages don't even include a gui...   ?
[21:46] <FaiDillinGer> it runs like crap
[21:46] <tekteen> ScorpKing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament
[21:47] <Atan> good evening, i just converted from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i was wondering how do i use konqueror as my default file browser?
[21:47] <tekteen> !dolphin
[21:47] <sigma16> oh i answered this earlier
[21:47] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: well, I would just like to see a list of the applications that I explicitly installed, not those that are required to run, came with kubuntu or may be dependencies, etc
[21:48] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[21:48] <tekteen> ubotu dies
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:48] <ScorpKing> tekteen: do i need that if i have the disk with the linux installer? thatnks for the link. ;)
[21:48] <vbgunz> that would give me the shorted list I could possibly wish for atm :)
[21:48] <tekteen> ok
[21:48] <tekteen> nm
[21:48] <Atan> that bot is awesome
[21:48] <sigma16> ubotu died
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about died - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:48] <kaminix> vbgunz: But what's in the last update of the kdelibs package?
[21:48] <Agent_bob> vbgunz again the list of dpkg actions in /var/log  might be the best bet for that.
[21:48] <sigma16> ubotu having a life
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about having a life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:48] <sigma16> XD
[21:49] <FaiDillinGer> ubotu bitches
[21:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitches - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:49] <tekteen> !ohmy
[21:49] <sigma16> ubotu life
[21:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:49] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <Agent_bob> vbgunz especally seeing that they are in cronological order ...
[21:49] <sigma16> LOL
[21:49] <FaiDillinGer> lol
[21:50] <tekteen> !botsnack
[21:50] <sigma16> i think that bot just insulted us all...
[21:50] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:50] <sigma16> XD
[21:50] <sigma16> ubotu die
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: yeah, I was looking at that a while ago, didn't know where to start as I believe kubuntus stuff is in there too, not sure where it ends and stuff
[21:50] <sigma16> ubotu death
[21:50] <tekteen> !root
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about death - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:50] <sigma16> ubotu quit
[21:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:50] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: I'll look again, hopefully I can see a pattern or something
[21:50] <tekteen> strait from the matrix
[21:50] <sigma16> ubotu sex
[21:50] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[21:51] <ScorpKing> !botabuse
[21:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:51] <tekteen> sorry
[21:51] <ScorpKing> hehe :P
[21:51] <sigma16> nevar!
[21:51] <Agent_bob> sigma16 not all...  "very few" means that there are a few.
[21:51] <sigma16> wat makes u tink ur amoung those few...
[21:51] <sigma16> XD
[21:51] <sigma16> j/p
[21:51] <Skyloto> O;
[21:52] <Skyloto> no matter what server I go to
[21:52] <VestICa> hello everyone
[21:52] <sigma16> lol
[21:52] <VestICa> can someone help me instaling kubuntu ? :D
[21:52] <sigma16> vesty ur under arrest...
[21:52] <ScorpKing> my nvidia drivers i installed yesterday stopped working again today. if i use nv it's fine but nvidia gives me a cursor. in the logs i get "Fatal server error: no screens found". any ideas?
[21:52] <sigma16> ur not aloud to say hi
[21:52] <sigma16> sure
[21:52] <VestICa> well...
[21:52] <Skyloto> ooh
[21:52] <Skyloto> lucky you
[21:52] <VestICa> i have install cd 7.10
[21:53] <Skyloto> I can't find out how to install the driver at all
[21:53] <sigma16> mhm
[21:53] <VestICa> amd athlon 64 3200+
[21:53] <sigma16> mhm
[21:53] <flipstar> !install VestICa
[21:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install vestica - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:53] <VestICa> 1gb ram memory
[21:53] <flipstar> !install | VestICa
[21:53] <ubotu> VestICa: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:53] <Skyloto> wait
[21:53] <VestICa> ok
[21:53] <Skyloto> VestICa:
[21:53] <sigma16> wats ur problem?
[21:53] <Skyloto> what graphics card?
[21:54] <VestICa> my problem is my screen is black instead of get into it
[21:54] <VestICa> 6600
[21:54] <Skyloto> pfew
[21:54] <kaminix> All bugreports for ubuntu go to launchpad, right?
[21:54] <Skyloto> was almost afraid you had exactly the same system as I have
[21:54] <jpatrick> !bugs | kaminix
[21:54] <ubotu> kaminix: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[21:54] <Agent_bob> safe graphics mode
[21:54] <kaminix> Thanks jpatrick :)
[21:54] <VestICa> tried safe graphics mode
[21:54] <VestICa> same thing
[21:54] <VestICa> black screen
[21:54] <Skyloto> so VestICa
[21:54] <Skyloto> how the hell did you install it anyway?
[21:55] <VestICa> i saw how that should look like
[21:55] <VestICa> so i guess something is wrong with my cd or machine
[21:55] <assilva> Brazilian_Joe, fala
[21:55] <Agent_bob> VestICa how much memory ?
[21:55] <VestICa> i did check cd for errors
[21:55] <VestICa> and it said everything is ok
[21:55] <Skyloto> Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run" to install the driver.
[21:55] <Skyloto> doesn't work
[21:55] <jpatrick> !bt | assilva, Brazilian_Joe
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <Skyloto> also
[21:56] <Skyloto> package installer has been stuck on 48% for ages
[21:56] <Agent_bob> VestICa how much memory does it have?
[21:56] <VestICa> graphics card ?
[21:56] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: heh, yeah, reading /var/log/dpkg.log is mind boggling, I see system updates, etc, I really wouldn't know how best to parse out apps I explicitly requested for installation :/
[21:56] <VestICa> 256mb
[21:57] <Agent_bob> VestICa ok that's not the problme then.
[21:57] <Agent_bob> VestICa but that is the minimum for the liveCD install
[21:57] <VestICa> ok
[21:58] <VestICa> so should i try alternate install ?
[21:58] <ScorpKing> 320MB is the minimum i think
[21:58]  * ScorpKing goes to make sure..
[21:58] <VestICa> 320 mb system memory
[21:58] <VestICa> i have 1gb ram memory
[21:58] <VestICa> and 256 on my graphics card
[21:58] <VestICa> lol
[21:58] <ScorpKing> ah
[21:58] <flipstar> VestICa: so you have already installed it and it wont boot ? or it stucks at install ?
[21:58] <Agent_bob> VestICa yes probably,   the alternate installer is much beter   IMO
[21:59] <Agent_bob> flipstar as i understand it.  can't boot the liveCD.    ?
[21:59] <VestICa> it won't boot live desktop
[21:59] <Agent_bob> anyway.  i'm out for a while.
[21:59] <VestICa> after that progress indicator thing...
[22:00] <VestICa> that blue thingie...
[22:00] <flipstar> VestICa: which version of the live cd you used ? the amd x64 thing ?
[22:00] <VestICa> next screen is black
[22:00] <VestICa> on both first options
[22:00] <VestICa> yes, x64
[22:00] <ehc> what is the command to start kde media manager?
[22:00] <VestICa> kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:00] <FaiDillinGer> what is the best 3d chess program available on kubuntu ?
[22:00] <VestICa> this one i've tried to install
[22:00] <fivetwentysix> !apt-fix
[22:00] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:01] <tekteen> FaiDillinGer: they are not good
[22:01] <VestICa> and i know it worked on similar machine
[22:01] <tekteen> I tried one
[22:01] <tekteen> I like the windows one
[22:01] <maxim000> how to unlock apt?
[22:01] <maxim000> just delete lock?
[22:01] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[22:01] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:01] <ehc> !kde media manager
[22:01] <maxim000> thanks :)
[22:02] <ehc> !kde mediamanager
[22:02] <ehc> !kdemediamanager
[22:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdemediamanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:02] <tekteen> ehc: ask a question
[22:02] <VestICa> flipstar do you think alternate installer will do the job ?
[22:02] <tekteen> we know the factoids
[22:02] <flipstar> i cant promise
[22:02] <flipstar> but you always can try :)
[22:02] <VestICa> :)
[22:02] <VestICa> i'll try
[22:03] <ehc> tekteen, i pluged in a flash drive and when I go to storage media it tells me that the KDE media manager isn't running. I have always had flash drives work fine.
[22:03] <tekteen> ok
[22:03] <VestICa> i would try it at first place... but i know this exact version i'm trying to install worked without any problems at my boyfriend's place
[22:03] <tekteen> try to restart kde
[22:03] <tekteen> login/out
[22:03] <VestICa> and he has almost the same machine as mine
[22:05] <maxim000> lock file is still in /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:17] <vbgunz> I can't believe I cannot get a list of the apps I explicitly installed, are there any apps out there that can probably make this easier to figure out?
[22:19] <jussi01> vbgunz: I think adept has a history somewhere there
[22:20] <vbgunz> a nice clean history would be sweet if it excluded system updates and stuff :)
[22:20] <vbgunz> googling history
[22:21] <vbgunz> ohh, found this "sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log" that looks like it may come in handy!
[22:21] <jussi01> :)
[22:22] <vbgunz> I can parse that ;)
[22:22] <vbgunz> I hope this works!
[22:28] <JohnMM> is it just me or does gutsy's edition of kde4 seem to be missing most of these features: http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-183063-1.html ? :(
[22:28] <flipstar> what do you miss ?
[22:29] <JohnMM> look at the features on that page ...most of them don't seem to be available in gutsy's kde4
[22:29] <JohnMM> I've done a apt-cache search krunner and that doesn't even seem to exist
[22:29] <tekteen> JohnMM: none of the keyboard shortcuts work
[22:29] <JohnMM> tekteen, so then how do you access the features?
[22:29] <tekteen> and many widgets are missing
[22:29] <tekteen> no idea
[22:30] <JohnMM> will this be fixed in the upcoming kubuntu release?
[22:30] <tekteen> get the livecd
[22:30] <tekteen> yes
[22:30] <JohnMM> ok cool
[22:30] <JohnMM> btw, no need for the livecd ...I've already upgraded my gutsy installation to kde4
[22:30] <JohnMM> :)
[22:30] <tekteen> me too
[22:30] <flipstar> "Kickoff menu at lower left, which provides quick access to favorite applications, the new Dolphin file manager at upper left, and the new System Settings interface toward the right" .. its all there..
[22:30] <tekteen> but more stuff works
[22:31] <tekteen> the livecd is better
[22:31] <JohnMM> I see the dolphin file manager and transparent windows but that's about it :(
[22:31] <tekteen> I like the comic widget
[22:31] <flipstar> hm im running hardy..
[22:32] <JohnMM> like the bleeding edge eh flipstar ?
[22:32] <JohnMM> I'll wait for hardy to come out officially, looks like a release to look forward to :D
[22:32] <flipstar> yes it still rocks
[22:33] <JohnMM> in the meantime, I suppose the transparent effects and dolphin will have to do
[22:33] <JohnMM> (unless I get adventurous and compile kde from source :D)
[22:33] <tekteen> I do not like the kde composite effects
[22:33] <tekteen> they hurt my eyes
[22:33] <JohnMM> they're a little laggy on my mac mini
[22:34] <tekteen> I like compiz though
[22:34] <tekteen> JohnMM: they are always laggy
[22:34] <JohnMM> but I suppose it's to be expected that those special effects would lag on a mac mini due to its integrated gfx
[22:34] <JohnMM> tekteen, ah
[22:34] <tekteen> that is why they hurt my eyes
[22:34] <JohnMM> haha
[22:34] <tekteen> compiz works though
[22:35] <tekteen> just has less WM features
[22:35] <JohnMM> ok
[22:35] <JohnMM> thanks for the info :)
[22:36] <fivetwentysix> How do I get alt to stop doing what it's doing
[22:36] <fivetwentysix> Like when I play warcraft 3 it prevents me from clicking while holding alt
[22:36] <tekteen> what is it doing
[22:36] <fivetwentysix> How do I disable the modifier keys
[22:39] <fivetwentysix> Anyone?
[22:39] <grul> alt makes you move the windows you click on
[22:40] <intelikey> fivetwentysix & grul that is an xorg thang    however it may be possable to disable it from kcontrol,   i have never wanted to.
[22:40] <grul> fivetwentysix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315350
[22:40] <grul> i suppose it's the same problem
[22:42] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[22:42] <fivetwentysix> But that's a solution for gnome users :-(
[22:42] <fivetwentysix> I need the KDE solution hehe
[22:43] <flipstar> did you looked at systemsettings-->keyboard-->shortcuts ?
[22:44] <fivetwentysix> flipstar yes
[22:44] <grul> fivetwentysix, kcontrol-> Desktop-> Window Behavior-> Window Actions-> Modifier key
[22:45] <grul> i just copied from ubuntuforus, so i haven't tested it myself :p i'm currently in windows
[22:45] <intelikey> fivetwentysix did you try what that post mentioned    super alt click ?
[22:45] <fivetwentysix> Windows actions?
[22:46] <fivetwentysix> intelikey doesn't matter there is no preferences menu in kde
[22:46] <intelikey> ?
[22:46] <intelikey> has nothing to do with kde
[22:46] <intelikey> it's simply modifying the modifier at the time.
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> simply go to
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> Code:
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> System -> Preferences -> Windows
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> that's from the post
[22:47] <gregor> gn8 guys
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> If I can actually change my modifier key
[22:47] <fivetwentysix> that would be perfect
[22:47] <intelikey> so is " ==> WIN+ALT+Click does the trick!"
[22:48] <fivetwentysix> ok
[22:48] <fivetwentysix> So tell me
[22:48] <fivetwentysix> How do I do that
[22:48] <fivetwentysix> In KDE
[22:48] <intelikey> you press the two keys   and the mouse button......
[22:49] <fivetwentysix> Oh ok
[22:49] <fivetwentysix> But I want to change the alt modifier to use win instead of alt
[22:50] <intelikey> khotkeys
[22:50] <fivetwentysix> No such package.
[22:51] <intelikey> package ?
[22:51] <intelikey> alt+f2  type in   khotkeys
[22:52] <fivetwentysix> ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.
[22:52] <fivetwentysix> lol
[22:52] <intelikey> heh.  oh well.
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> Can't get it to run
[22:53] <tekteen> you can use it in system settings
[22:53] <intelikey> try in a konsole so you can see the error message
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> That's what i did
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> and that's the error message
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> anyways
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> Nothing in system settings
[22:53] <fivetwentysix> allows me to change the modifier keys
[22:54] <intelikey> oh yuch.  that's all it said... ?
[22:54] <tekteen> system settings > Accessibillity
[22:54] <tekteen> Input Actions
[22:54] <tekteen> fivetwentysix: click new group
[22:55] <holo> hi
[22:55] <tekteen> holo: hi
[22:55] <fivetwentysix> ok
[22:56] <awen_> that's impressive... just stubled upon http://www.haiku-os.org/
[22:56] <fivetwentysix> This is what I want to do, I want to configure X so that it doesn't use alt as my modifier key instead it uses win+alt
[22:56] <tekteen> ok
[22:56] <awen_> boots in qemu (no kvm) in less than 20 seconds including graphical interface and starting a virtual terminal... beating my ubuntu server under same conditions
[22:56] <tekteen> thatnm
[22:56] <tekteen> nm
[22:57] <Tm_T> awen_: ok
[22:57] <fivetwentysix> Who knows how to do this
[22:57] <Tm_T> fivetwentysix: I'm wondering why you want that
[22:57] <JoshOvki> have a look in system settings,  Keyboard & Mouse
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> I did!
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> And i can't change it
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> It won't let me
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> There's no prompt to change it
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> There's nothing you can do in System settings that allows me to change the modifier key mappings
[22:58] <awen_> fivetwentysix: it only lists the settings there... you will need to play with your xorg.conf
[22:58] <fivetwentysix> It doesn't say anything about it in xorg.conf
[22:59]  * awen_ can't remember the exact syntax
[22:59] <intelikey> five as i said there is probably a way in kcontrol...  kcontrol > desktop > window behaviour > modifier button
[22:59] <goop2> I deleted my xorg.conf file and now the 'Moniter & Display' section of 'System Settings' doesn't do anything
[22:59] <intelikey> oh it's in the "window action" tab
[22:59] <holo> i'm just starting using git. My project is shared among two individuals. Me and another guy. Each one has its own repository, so its not centralized. I thought about creating a project specific unix account in each of the tow machines. but this poses a problem: when one wants to edit a file in this account with a x window editor, one has problems with displays if using a other unix account for loging into the x window manager. So my question
[22:59] <holo> is if there is a way of having non-unix accounts
[23:00] <JoshOvki> goop2: im surprised that your xserver is starting at all
[23:00] <intelikey> JoshOvki it probably wont
[23:00] <goop2> JoshOvki: it didn't before I deleted it
[23:00] <goop2> JoshOvki: now it does
[23:00] <holo> oops.. wrong channel
[23:00] <holo> sorry guys
[23:00] <intelikey> goop2 where was the file you deleted ?
[23:00] <fivetwentysix> JoshOvki: if X doesn't find xorg.conf it creates a new one
[23:01] <JoshOvki> ah ok, that makes sence
[23:01] <goop2> intelikey /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:01] <intelikey> goop2 and is that file there now ?
[23:01] <fivetwentysix> Please someone tell me how to remove alt as a modifier key.
[23:01] <fivetwentysix> Or modify the modifier keys.
[23:01] <intelikey> fivetwentysix i just did.  for kde3.x  use kcontrol
[23:02] <Tm_T> fivetwentysix: I wonder why, mind to explain?
[23:02] <intelikey> five as i said there is probably a way in kcontrol...  kcontrol > desktop > window behaviour > in the 'window actions tab' modifier button
[23:02] <fivetwentysix> Tm_T It doesn't handle the way I want it to in windows applications.
[23:02] <goop2> intelikey: I have xorg.conf.1, 2, and 3, and a xorg.conf backup file
[23:02] <Tm_T> fivetwentysix: you mean what exactly?
[23:03] <fivetwentysix> It combines the alt effect with windows applications' alt effect
[23:03] <Tm_T> what alt effect?
[23:04] <intelikey> goop2 well you can    sudo dpkg-recongirure xserver-xorg -phigh    to regenerate the default xorg.conf it needed.
[23:04] <fivetwentysix> intelikey: What does meta mean?
[23:04] <fivetwentysix> intelikey: Anyways it worked thank you so much, I've been pondering over this problem for a while!
[23:05] <goop2> intelikey: sweet - thanks
[23:07] <hola1> how is it possibile to share a ppp0 interface with a virtual interface
[23:07] <intelikey> fivetwentysix http://www.linuxhq.com/guides/LUG/node86.html
[23:08] <goop2> intelikey: it said I don't have the xorg.conf file
[23:08] <intelikey> hola1 you could bridge the two maybe ?   but it's probably a beter idea to just make the ppp0 the default gateway
[23:09] <intelikey> goop2 ?   sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;sudo dpkg-recongirure xserver-xorg -phigh
[23:11] <intelikey> errr typo
[23:11] <intelikey> goop2 ?   sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[23:11] <goop2> recongirure =P
[23:11] <goop2> I already fixed it
[23:11] <intelikey> sssh don't tell anyont.
[23:12] <intelikey> ;/
[23:12] <goop2> =P
[23:12]  * intelikey 's fingures are dyslexic today.
[23:13] <goop2> hehe
[23:15] <Goop2> that worked after all.. sweet
[23:15] <Goop2> only that created another problem
[23:15] <Goop2> my old resolution feels huge =P
[23:16] <intelikey> better than the "fonts too small to read" thing that kubuntu is noted for.
[23:16] <niall_> has flash been fixed yet?
[23:16] <intelikey> !flash
[23:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:16] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:16] <intelikey> if so the bot don't know it yet
[23:16] <niall_> ;/
[23:16] <niall_> they need to get their asses in gear
[23:17] <niall_> i'm totally back in web 1.0
[23:17] <intelikey> yes and thier mules also
[23:17] <niall_> but without the flash ;o
[23:17] <Goop2> intelikey: well that's why it feels so big :\
[23:18] <intelikey> Goop2 oh.    thought you meant large lettering.    what i do is adj all fonts size to about 14   usually makes it look right.
[23:19] <intelikey> kcontrol > look+feel > fonts    i think
[23:19] <hola1> intelikey: default gateway for host or client?
[23:19] <Goop2> intelikey: well it used to seem fine, so I should be able to just get used to it again
[23:19] <intelikey> hola1 the default gw for the host needs to be the outside connection.  and for the client the host box
[23:20] <matttis> Does GOK work under KDE ?
[23:20] <Goop2> anyway, I have to go eat
[23:20] <Goop2> later peeps
[23:20] <intelikey> Goop2 k.     and i don't know why the default font size for all fonts is 9 in kubuntu.
[23:21] <hola1> intelikey: sorry, im a beginner. For the virtual interface which could be the gw
[23:22] <intelikey> the ppp0 connection
[23:22] <intelikey> back in a few.  have to run.
[23:24] <matttis> Does the Gnome on-screen keyboard (gok) work under KDE ?
[23:26] <vzduch> matttis: why not?  apart from KDE having its own iiac
[23:27] <hola1> which is the differrent between netmask 255.255.255.0 and 255.255.255.255?
[23:28] <matttis> vzduch: how is it called ?
[23:29] <vzduch> no idea, never used it
[23:29] <matttis> vzduch: when i press the buttons of gok, nothng happened
[23:29] <vzduch> you might want to look in Kcontrol under Accessibility
[23:29] <matttis> is it because i have a keyboard attached ?
[23:33] <xevious-> does anyone know if it's possible to empty the trash with a dcop call or anything at the command line?
[23:35] <Goop2> matttis: try Kvkbd
[23:35] <matttis> Goop2: cool, thx
[23:45] <Willabee> Hey
[23:46] <Willabee> I'm running shockwave through firefox on WINE, but firefox freezes whenever I close a tab that uses shockwave
[23:46] <matttis> with that i can learn dvorak
[23:46] <Willabee> Is there any way to fix or is it just from incompatibility issues?
[23:47] <matttis> why do you use firefox with wine ?
[23:47] <Willabee> so I can use shockwave
[23:47] <Goop2> I used Tux Typing to learn Dvorak
[23:48] <shaffy> can anyone help me as to why OpenOffice Word Processor does not print dashes or quotes when the work is exported to PDF or even directly printed?
[23:48] <matttis> Goop2: well, i need a hardware keyboard layout, before i really can start learning dvorak
[23:49] <Goop2> matttis: I had a spare keyboard that I popped the keys out of =P
[23:49] <matttis> Goop2: well, maybe i'll try that too :-)
[23:50] <matttis> Willabee: if i remember correct, there is a shockwave plugin for linux ?
[23:50] <matttis> s/?/.
[23:50] <Tm_T> there is NOT
[23:50] <Willabee> there's flash, but not shockwave
[23:52] <matttis> Goop2: do you think it is better to use dvorak instead of the default layout ? Is it worth to learn dvorak ?
[23:52] <Goop2> shockwave is outdated.. they never made a Linux version before Flash came out
[23:52] <Willabee> I do language learning online, and the website uses shockwave
[23:52] <Goop2> matttis: Dvorak is more ergonomical, making it a bit faster too
[23:53] <andreas> hello
[23:53] <andreas> i want to locate the executable of kate
[23:53] <andreas> how do i do that?
[23:53] <Goop2> matttis: the keys are arranged to make the most commonly used ones in the easiest places
[23:53] <andreas> there is a command
[23:54] <olskolirc> how come I can't load kdm themes to my kdm manager please?  nothing shows up
[23:54] <matttis> andreas: whereis kate
[23:54] <olskolirc> im on Gutsy
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> andreas- or "which kate"
[23:54] <andreas> thx
[23:54] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  how did you install these themes? or you mean you cant install kdm themes?
[23:54] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[23:54] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[23:55] <matttis> Goop2: how long did it take you to learn dvorak and can you "switch" between both if you want ?
[23:55] <albert> hey
[23:55] <olskolirc> I can't install them in the kdm theme manager.  I downloaded them from kde-look Dr_willis
[23:55] <olskolirc> I can't install kdm themes Dr_willis
[23:56] <Goop2> matttis: I learned it in a couple days, and I haven't learned QWERTY, but there really isn't any reason you couldn't switch between..
[23:56] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  uncompress them and look at the files. Some times they got different layouts.
[23:56] <Willabee> Never learned QWERTY?
[23:56] <Goop2> matttis: it's like going from a BMX to a street bike
[23:56] <olskolirc> what am i looking for Dr_willis
[23:56] <Willabee> What'd you use before dvorak?  or just always used?
[23:56] <Goop2> Willabee: I pecked a qwerty
[23:56] <matttis> Goop2: well, i thought one could confuse it
[23:57] <shaffy> can anyone help me as to why OpenOffice Word Processor does not print dashes or quotes when the work is exported to PDF or even directly printed?
[23:57] <Goop2> matttis: not really. most people say they can go between the 2 without a problem
[23:57] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  uncompress the archive look in the files. ive seen so many messed up nested archives from kde-look.org its scary
[23:58] <matttis> ok, well, one reason more to learn it :-)
[23:58] <Dr_willis> I though tin the past ive just dragged/dropped kdm theme archives to the kdmtheme tool
[23:58] <Goop2> :D
[23:58] <olskolirc> i see two png files in one and a themerc file in another
[23:58] <olskolirc> in the same folder rather
[23:58] <Willabee> you install with the .tar.gz I believe
[23:59] <matttis> good night