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| eddyMul | Hi. I'm (very) new to Launchpad PPA. I assume it takes some time for binary packages to "show up/get published" after I got a report of a successful build. What is the average wait time? | 05:40 |
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| Fujitsu | eddyMul: What do you mean by a report of a successful build? | 05:41 |
| RAOF | eddyMul: It varies wildly. From the time that you get the "launchpad has accepted foo", there's an every-15-minute publish run, then they get added to a build queue (of uncertain length). | 05:42 |
| eddyMul | Fujitsu, RAOF: https://launchpad.net/~eddymul/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=built | 05:42 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 05:42 |
| eddyMul | Fujitsu, RAOF: nvm. the binary package just showed up. I guess launchpad is pretty quick | 05:42 |
| eddyMul | :) | 05:43 |
| Fujitsu | It would have been published at xx:40, where xx is the current hour in your favourite timezone. | 05:43 |
| Fujitsu | They should be published at :00, :20, :40. | 05:43 |
| eddyMul | Fujitsu: I see. Since this is my first time submitting a package to PPA, I want to make sure I "wait accordingly" | 05:44 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186548 in rosetta "Still an "iterable argument required" on Slovenian translation import" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186548 | 08:20 |
| kitofhawaii | hi where do i go for help if i need for our ubuntu team launchpad to be taken over from a hostile member who has ownership of it? | 08:26 |
| Fujitsu | kitofhawaii: Your best bet is probably to file a question on the launchpad project. | 08:27 |
| kitofhawaii | Fujitsu: thank you :) | 08:27 |
| kitofhawaii | ok have to get jono to vouch for it... | 08:29 |
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| doko | hmm, can't submit/open new bug reports, see OOPS-758EB48 ... | 08:49 |
| elmo | doko: try on !edge | 08:51 |
| Fujitsu | doko: Is this through apport? | 08:51 |
| doko | Fujitsu: no, plain browser; elmo: thanks, works | 08:52 |
| elmo | doko: please open a bug? I'll follow up, I know what commit broke it | 08:58 |
| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 08:59 |
| elmo | (s/know/think I know/) | 08:59 |
| Fujitsu | Hi mpt. | 09:00 |
| doko | elmo: #186564 | 09:01 |
| intellectronica | doko: did you try to attach a file at the same time as filing the bug? | 09:04 |
| * mpt tries to think of a nice synonym for "wankery" | 09:06 | |
| doko | intellectronica: no | 09:07 |
| intellectronica | doko: thanks (I'm asking because I think the bug that caused your OOPS is part of the work on a new feature which will allow you to attach a file at the same time as submitting a new bug). | 09:08 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186564 in malone "OOPS with edge.launchpad.net while submitting a report" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186564 | 09:10 |
| mpt | arrrgh | 09:18 |
| * Fujitsu wonders why mpt sounds so like a cat being strangled. | 09:21 | |
| mpt | because I just fell victim to bug 186564 :-) | 09:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 186564 in malone "OOPS with edge.launchpad.net while submitting a report" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186564 - Assigned to Graham Binns (gmb) | 09:22 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 09:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186567 in launchpad "Message when approved for a team refers to "status of your" non-existent "membership"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186567 | 09:25 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Is an email subject of `X made an admin by Y' your creation? It seems to not really fit with the rest of Launchpad's text. | 09:28 |
| mpt | Fujitsu, no, sabdfl takes care of designing the team-related e-mail headers | 09:29 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 09:30 |
| Aloha | how do you add blueprints to launchpad teams? | 09:38 |
| Fujitsu | Aloha: Blueprints are created on a project or distribution, not a team. | 09:39 |
| Aloha | Fujitsu, ok | 09:39 |
| Aloha | what do teams have a blueprints page then? | 09:39 |
| Fujitsu | Those are blueprints that are related to the team. Blueprints that the team is subscribed or assigned to, for example. | 09:40 |
| Aloha | Fujitsu, gotcha. thnx | 09:41 |
| carlos | morning | 10:41 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186587 in malone "Bug trackers listing should be a single-column page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186587 | 10:56 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186588 in malone "Bug-reporting guidelines presentation is unsightly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186588 | 10:56 |
| === mpt changed the topic of #launchpad to: Can't report bugs on edge.launchpad.net? Go to <https://launchpad.net/> and turn off redirection. || Next development meeting (all welcome): Thu 31 Jan 2008, 1400UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #186602 in rosetta "Can't setup Asturian language as default on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186602 | 11:50 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186607 in malone "Distribution Package Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186607 | 12:15 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186611 in malone "Milestone Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186611 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186612 in malone "Product Series Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186612 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186613 in malone "Distribution Series Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186613 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186614 in malone "Project Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186614 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186615 in malone "Product Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186615 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186616 in malone "Distribution Structural Subscriptions for Bugs" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186616 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186619 in malone "Convert Product Bug Contact to Structural Subscriptions" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186619 | 12:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186620 in malone "Convert Distribution Bug Contact to Structural Subscriptions" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186620 | 12:31 |
| * Fujitsu drowns. | 12:31 | |
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| * elmo frowns | 12:32 | |
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| coolbhavi | How to make my email addresses publicly viewable in Launchpad? | 13:39 |
| coolbhavi | Help please | 13:41 |
| Fujitsu | coolbhavi: See https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit | 13:47 |
| Fujitsu | The first checkbox. | 13:47 |
| coolbhavi | Thanks Fujitsu | 13:48 |
| no0tic | hi, I'm trying to add myself to planet ubuntu, committing to bazaar replies | 15:04 |
| no0tic | bzr: ERROR: Can't rename /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/06/74/.bzr/branch/lock/giagxml1b7.tmp to /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/06/74/.bzr/branch/lock/held: /srv/sm-ng/push-branches/00/00/06/74/.bzr/branch/lock/held already exist | 15:04 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186660 in launchpad "Launchpad shouldn't store wiki names" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186660 | 15:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186661 in launchpad "SQLObject prejoins aren't documented anywhere in the project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186661 | 15:21 |
| Rinchen | Bug #186667 | 15:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 186667 in malone "New report a bug info box for Ubuntu intrusive and annoying" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186667 | 15:49 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186667 in malone "New report a bug info box for Ubuntu intrusive and annoying" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186667 | 15:55 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186683 in soyuz "PPA index page does not handle invalid GET values properly " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186683 | 16:56 |
| mdz | https://edge.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3 -> redirection limit exceeded | 17:49 |
| mdz | is it only me? | 17:49 |
| mdz | (old URL from a bug comment) | 17:49 |
| intellectronica | mdz: if you remove the /distros/ bit it works fine. definitely a but | 17:52 |
| mdz | intellectronica: should I file a bug? | 17:53 |
| mdz | presumably backward compatibility for old URLs is meant to be preserved | 17:53 |
| intellectronica | mdz: yup | 17:53 |
| intellectronica | oh, i think that url pattern is still supported, at least for backwards compatibility | 17:54 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186702 in launchpad "Fields defined in interfaces should be reusable or copiable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186702 | 17:56 |
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| jkakar | Is the 'summary' section on a project's +announce page intended to contain a lot of content? | 19:15 |
| jkakar | Crap. | 19:26 |
| jkakar | My bug report is causing OOPS and OOPS and not getting filed. | 19:26 |
| matsubara | jkakar: as a workaround use launchpad.net instead of edge | 19:27 |
| matsubara | jkakar: the cause is likely to be bug 186564 | 19:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 186564 in malone "OOPS with edge.launchpad.net while submitting a report without an attachment" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186564 - Assigned to Graham Binns (gmb) | 19:28 |
| jkakar | Woah, what a weird bug. :) | 19:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #186752 in launchpad "announcements feed on front page of launchpad.net does not correspond to front page news" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186752 | 19:56 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #186792 in launchpad "hook up welcome message for new subscribers" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186792 | 21:00 |
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| Aloha | can we add copyrighted images in packages to the ppa, or do they have to be public domain? | 21:50 |
| ScottK | Aloha: Depends on the license associated with the images. | 21:51 |
| ScottK | They have to be distributable. | 21:51 |
| Aloha | gotcha | 21:51 |
| Aloha | so like creative commons | 21:51 |
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| LaserJock | cprov: got a sec? | 22:43 |
| hexmode | I'm confused: How can I add files for .../+download? | 23:06 |
| hexmode | for example, to here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ihris-manage/+download | 23:06 |
| kiko | hexmode, add it to a product release | 23:06 |
| hexmode | looking | 23:06 |
| kiko | hexmode, visit a series page (such as /trunk) and then navigate to the release | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | kiko: hola | 23:08 |
| cprov | LaserJock: sure | 23:09 |
| LaserJock | cprov: I was just ask a little about package overview pages | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | I just left a comment on bug #73116 with most of it | 23:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 73116 in soyuz "Source package pages don't describe what the package is for" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73116 | 23:11 |
| cprov | LaserJock: ok, give me a URL | 23:11 |
| LaserJock | but basically I think it'd really be helpful for developers and even users if the overview pages where a bit more descriptive about the package itself | 23:12 |
| LaserJock | they are already doing good from a publishing perspective | 23:12 |
| LaserJock | but they give basically no information about the package itself | 23:12 |
| LaserJock | I just wondered what thoughts you had about that | 23:13 |
| cprov | LaserJock: well, we can't do much since sources have no description in the debian metadata format | 23:14 |
| cprov | LaserJock: once we have binaries it gets better https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bum/2.1.10-1 | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | that is true | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | but I'm wondering if we can kinda move some of that information "uphill" | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | there are a lot of packages that only produce a single binary, those would be trivial | 23:16 |
| LaserJock | for multiple binaries it's definitely more vague to talk about a description | 23:16 |
| cprov | LaserJock: It's feasible, but it could be sorted in a proper way if we use the 'packaging' link to the corresponding project | 23:17 |
| LaserJock | it seems to me that the source overview page is "primary" target for people wanting info on the package | 23:17 |
| LaserJock | and so it should include a lot of the information | 23:18 |
| LaserJock | rather than having to click around | 23:18 |
| LaserJock | I still often have to more or less randomly click around to get some information | 23:18 |
| LaserJock | well, I think "packaging" links are only proper if there's a corresponding project around | 23:19 |
| cprov | LaserJock: https://edge.launchpad.net/bum has the information what is "bum" ... even if we present the binaries description it will only describe what the packages are, not what "bum" is | 23:19 |
| LaserJock | well, generally the short descriptions are even fairly ok, but the long descriptions for sure are good info | 23:20 |
| cprov | LaserJock: yes, it's only available if we have a corresponding product/project | 23:20 |
| ScottK | Of course that info may or may not relate to what either upstream or the Ubuntu package have to say about it. | 23:20 |
| cprov | right, but as I mentioned before, ubuntu/debian says nothing about the source, we have to wait for the binaries to show up | 23:21 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: that's a good point, I've seen a lot of projects that have no info and are basically useless | 23:21 |
| LaserJock | cprov: right, but from our perspective there's not much difference. If I apt-cache showsrc <pkg> I get all the info | 23:22 |
| LaserJock | in some sense the source package page should inherit this stuff from the binaries | 23:23 |
| LaserJock | if that makes any sense | 23:23 |
| cprov | LaserJock: no, you don't get summary/description by using "apt-cache showsrc" | 23:23 |
| LaserJock | sorry, that's right | 23:24 |
| LaserJock | apt-cache show will | 23:24 |
| crimsun | right, because it makes no sense. They're only appropriate for binary packages. | 23:24 |
| cprov | LaserJock: a sourcepackagerelease, basically stores what is shipped in the DSC | 23:24 |
| LaserJock | cprov: right, and I'm saying that it'd be nice if we got more than that | 23:24 |
| cprov | LaserJock: yes, I know we can present the binaries summary when they are available. | 23:25 |
| kiko | cprov, LaserJock is saying "never mind that we store things as dsc and binaries. present stuff that is useful to the user." | 23:25 |
| LaserJock | basically yeah | 23:26 |
| LaserJock | the +source page is the entry point into that package and yet often has the least amount of useful information | 23:26 |
| LaserJock | because a lot of the goodies reside in the binaries | 23:26 |
| LaserJock | and specific version pages | 23:27 |
| hexmode | kiko: tyvm for the release help | 23:28 |
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