[01:45] <jcastro> mgunes: did the nautilus sticky on the forums disappear?
[02:10] <mgunes> jcastro, I unsticked it for the while; too many stickies. the Hug Day sticky links to it anyway.
[02:10] <mgunes> and it stays on top because people keep posting to it
[16:04] <Monkee_Of_Evil> anyone in?
[16:14] <clarke8> yep
[16:42] <Monkee_Of_Evil> howdy
[21:38] <Mike_Feravolo> hello
[21:38] <Monkee_Of_Evil> howdy
[21:39] <Mike_Feravolo> Anything new in the world of marketing ?
[21:41] <Monkee_Of_Evil> erm, I'm new to the marketing team
[21:41] <Monkee_Of_Evil> but uhh... im trying to bring the survey effort back to life.
[21:42] <Mike_Feravolo> that's cool, what part of the world are you from
[21:42] <Monkee_Of_Evil> houston,tx, usa
[21:42] <Mike_Feravolo> cocoa beach, Fla/
[21:43] <Mike_Feravolo> I am starting a business networking group in Orlando to promote the concept of free software to people
[21:44] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Does orlando have a loco?
[21:45] <Mike_Feravolo> Florida Does
[21:45] <Monkee_Of_Evil> yeah
[21:45] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Texas is having trouble getting a loco going
[21:45] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Houston has a decently active one
[21:46] <Monkee_Of_Evil> but texas is so frickin big 
[21:46] <Mike_Feravolo> The Loco idea is okay, but I am looking for people that don't even know Ubuntu exists
[21:46] <Monkee_Of_Evil> yeah
[21:47] <Mike_Feravolo> Basicly introducing free software to Windows(R) users
[21:47] <Mike_Feravolo> that free as is freedom
[21:48] <Mike_Feravolo> correction: Free as in Freedom
[21:48] <Monkee_Of_Evil> indeed
[21:49] <Monkee_Of_Evil> I'm trying to whip the houston loco into shape myself
[21:51] <Monkee_Of_Evil> 4th biggest city in the US and we cant consistently break the 10+ people @ a meeting barrier.
[21:51] <Monkee_Of_Evil> it's retarded.
[21:52] <Mike_Feravolo> The problem that I found with the loco thing is exactly that, the same few people show up for the meetings
[21:54] <Monkee_Of_Evil> I blame bad group leadership honestly
[21:54] <Mike_Feravolo> Which is why I am starting a group at a Coffee Shop and promoting though the Chamber of Commece and local media
[21:54] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Houston team used to have 20+ people and they moved the mailing list to google groups
[21:54] <Monkee_Of_Evil> that was the end of it
[21:54] <Monkee_Of_Evil> they also wanted to have a "roaming meeting locations" across the city
[21:54] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Houston is fucking HUGE
[21:55] <Mike_Feravolo> Did you try meetup.com
[21:56] <Monkee_Of_Evil> naw
[21:57] <Mike_Feravolo> The Lugs are a good idea, but often turn into Ubuntu vs Fedora vs Slackware vs . . .  flame wars
[21:57] <Mike_Feravolo> I like the google groups better also, meetup.com costs money
[21:58] <Monkee_Of_Evil> http://groups.google.com/Ubuntu-Houston-Team
[21:58] <Monkee_Of_Evil> errr
[21:58] <Monkee_Of_Evil> http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntu-houston-team
[22:00] <Mike_Feravolo> I just started mine I am the only menber: http://groups.google.com/group/software-freedom
[22:01] <Mike_Feravolo> As with all of these things I expect one person to show up for the first meeting
[22:02] <Monkee_Of_Evil> lol
[22:02] <Monkee_Of_Evil> Yeah
[22:02] <Monkee_Of_Evil> It'll take a while
[22:02] <Monkee_Of_Evil> I want to have an Ubuntu confrence here in Houston
[22:03] <Monkee_Of_Evil> @the George R. Brown convention center
[22:03] <Monkee_Of_Evil> buuuuut
[22:03] <Mike_Feravolo> What about Orlando, we got Mickey Mouse
[22:03] <Monkee_Of_Evil> I gotta get the loco organized enough to organize something like that
[22:04] <Mike_Feravolo> Florida is also a big state and I think Loco should be organized at the city level
[22:05] <Mike_Feravolo> It's hard to get people to drive five hours to a meeting
[22:07] <Mike_Feravolo> got to go, nice talking with you
[22:10] <Monkee_Of_Evil> you too
[22:20] <desertc> Mike_Feravolo: How do you promote events through the chamber of commerce?
[22:21] <Monkee_Of_Evil> He's targeting businesses
[22:21] <Monkee_Of_Evil> which is why
[22:21] <Monkee_Of_Evil> I guess
[22:21] <Monkee_Of_Evil> he said he was heading out
[22:21] <Monkee_Of_Evil> so I doubt he'll reply
[22:25] <desertc> I'll target anyone
[22:25] <desertc> anyone who will listen.  :)
[22:25] <desertc> I am thinking of going to the plumbing conference in town next week to see if they are interested .
[22:26] <desertc> This marketing team seems to focus on marketing to other ubuntu people.  Not sure I agree with the methods.
[22:26] <desertc> At least not for the goal of fixing Bug #1.
[23:26] <Mike_Feravolo> desertc, Basicly you join a chamber of commerce and then get out there and see want happens
[23:57] <desertc> what do you mean by 'get out there' - where is there?