[00:00] <matt__>  soundray tried it. dreamnid think i tried that.
[00:00] <JFactor> MrObvious: Ok it is pastebinned
[00:00] <CrazyWulf> Ok I'm having major problems with my cd burner not working with Ubuntu/Kubuntu.     It's a CW078D ATAPI CD-R/RW (generic),   works 100% perfectly with windows but doesn't seemt to want to cooperate here.     Acting very very strange
[00:00] <matt__> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2812 that is exactly what is happening.
[00:00] <soundray> phroughy: then your xorg.conf change is ignored. It must be a hardy issue. Ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:00] <pilot> anybody know anything about ppc
[00:00] <Fryguy--> CrazyWulf: that's not very descriptive
[00:00] <CrazyWulf> Right now I don't even have a disc in the drive and it's still showing a "blank" cd on the desktop
[00:00] <CrazyWulf> When I try to burn, it always gives me a failed message
[00:01] <pilot> anybody know anything about ppc ubuntu on an ibook - internal mic doesn't work
[00:01] <pilot> feisty
[00:01] <jga> anybody gotten network manager wireless static ip to work?
[00:01] <ian07> I just installed firestarter, and attempted to enable shared internet connection but then said eth0 is not ready
[00:01] <Fryguy--> jga: network manager has limited to no support doing doing anything with static IPs
[00:01] <ian07> what do I do?
[00:02] <phroughy> !xorg.conf
[00:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:02] <CrazyWulf> If I go into places/computer and try to click on the drive itself it gives me this message:    mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist
[00:02] <jga> Fryguy--: any alternatives?
[00:02] <Fryguy--> jga: do it manually via cli
[00:02] <pilot> anybody know anything about ppc ubuntu on an ibook g3 - internal mic doesn't work
[00:02] <ian07> via cli?
[00:02] <dreamnid> matt__: what option are you using?
[00:02] <AnRkey> pilot
[00:02] <pazsion>  need help setting up a dial-in/dialup server...join #ubuntuserver if you can help me out
[00:02] <matt__> dreamnid: option for what?
[00:02] <CrazyWulf> I did a search on google but couldn't find any similiar issues
[00:02] <pilot> yes
[00:03] <dreamnid> matt__: the vga
[00:03] <Fryguy--> ian07: you should really hit up google a bit instead of asking people in here to walk you through every single step and hiccup you run into.  There is PLENTY of documentation available all over the place for this stuff
[00:03] <AnRkey> pilot: doble click your speacker icon next to your date and time
[00:03] <dreamnid> in grub
[00:03] <soundray> pilot: have some patience before you repeat. Check out installation reports for your laptop model on tuxmobil.org
[00:03] <ian07> ok
[00:03] <matt__> dreamnid: i selected mine, 1280x1024
[00:03] <dreamnid> matt__: wait...
[00:03] <AnRkey> pilot, click edit, prefs
[00:03] <naxa> i set some gamma values but after some inactivity, ubuntu restores bright and full rgb settings, making my eyes to enter another 15 minutes long geting used to the darj period. how can i disable this?
[00:03] <jga> Fryguy--: what do I need in my network/interfaces file?
[00:03] <CrazyWulf> Anyone have any ideas?
[00:03] <matt__> dreamnid: ok
[00:03] <AnRkey> pilot, then enable everything
[00:03] <dreamnid> matt__ : it works when you boot the live cd
[00:03] <AnRkey> pilot, click ok
[00:03] <pilot> did that...no capture entry
[00:03] <dreamnid> matt__ : but it doesn't work after you try booting off the hd?
[00:04] <AnRkey> pilot, check your recording settings and mic boost
[00:04] <Fryguy--> jga: the same things you'd need if you were doing static IPs over a wired connection
[00:04] <CrazyWulf> Anyone?
[00:04] <phroughy> what can you do to have a new xorg.conf file made for your setup?
[00:04] <Sonja> brb
[00:04] <pilot> in alsamixer?
[00:04] <AnRkey> pilot, play with this settings till your mic level is up and your mic is on
[00:04] <Moe|Joe> anyone know where i put the rndc.conf and named.conf files on ubuntu?
[00:04] <danand> fryguy - will try to pastebin my network/interfaces file for you
[00:05] <danand> Fryguy-- hold one
[00:05] <matt__> dreamnid: i can't boot into the livecd, i'm in ubuntu now, i'm just wanting to try the 64bit, so when i go to boot livecd, after i select "start or install ubuntu", the screen turns black, as if my computer is off (that seems to be what my monitor thinks).
[00:05] <CrazyWulf> I just need to burn this image and *really* don't feel like reinstalling Windows to do it
[00:05] <AnRkey> pilot, no double click the speacker next to your date and time
[00:05] <dreamnid> Moe|Joe: ... it should be in /etc/named/named.conf if I remember
[00:05] <dame> how can i desible compiz from shell?
[00:05] <pilot> there is no detection in gnome sound manager/pref or alsamixer
[00:05] <BenderUnit22> phroughy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[00:05] <AnRkey> dame metazity --replace &
[00:05] <dreamnid> matt__ : gotcha.
[00:05] <pilot> everything is checked there
[00:05] <AnRkey> dame, sorry it's metacity
[00:05] <matt__> dreamnid: so any solutions?
[00:05] <naxa> why ubuntu autorestores brightness?
[00:05] <dreamnid> matt__ : well... not too sure
[00:06] <dreamnid> matt__ : are you sure you have a 64 bit cpu?
[00:06] <pilot> no capture entry
[00:06] <matt__> dreamnid: yes....
[00:06] <AnRkey> pilot, are your inputs and mics enables
[00:06] <Shadow147> !find sdl
[00:06] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 53 others)
[00:06] <pazsion> help me setup a dial-up server for ubuntu join #ubuntuserver recent how to's posted join in...
[00:06] <AnRkey> pilot; enabled and not muted
[00:06] <dame> AnRkey: thanks!
[00:06] <bascule> CrazyWulf: cdrecord -vv dev=/dev/scd0 speed=16 the.iso, what happens?
[00:06] <dreamnid> matt__ : You might want to try the alternative cd
[00:06] <jrib> pazsion: please do not do that
[00:06] <AnRkey> dame, np
[00:06] <dreamnid> matt__ : Otherwise, I don't have any other ideas
[00:06] <pilot> there is no entry for a mic at all...but i know it's there b/c it works in osx
[00:06] <AnRkey> dame, compiz --replace &
[00:07] <AnRkey> dame, to turn it on again
[00:07] <gyaresu> !automatix
[00:07] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[00:07] <matt__> dreamnid: thought about alt....but dunno...if it won't boot the live cd, it's possible that it won't boot an alt. install. so i dunno.
[00:07] <dreamnid> matt__ : true
[00:08] <AnRkey> pilot, check to see if there is not perhaps a jack sensing option
[00:08] <AnRkey> pilot, playing with that on some systems turns the mic on and off
[00:08] <dreamnid> Moe|Joe: I just checked, it's in /etc/bind/named.conf
[00:08] <pilot> in preferences or in alsamixer
[00:09] <pilot> no entries for jack at all
[00:09] <danand> Fryguy-- /etc/network/interfaces - static - http://pastebin.com/d24cc0a50
[00:09] <dreamnid> I'm going to throw this out... doubt anyone will know the answer... Does anybody know how to quit a stalled ssh terminal (ie the ssh connection drops) and I don't want to wait for the timeout?
[00:09] <pingui> hi people
[00:09] <ag0g0girl> hey, any ppc users here
[00:09] <pilot> this is an ibook, remember it's ppc platform
[00:10] <gyaresu> Got a mate I'm helping. What's the alternative to automatix to get all the nonfree stuff?
[00:10] <ag0g0girl> I went to #ubuntu-powerpc
[00:10] <ag0g0girl> no one there
[00:10] <Flannel> !medibuntu | gyaresu
[00:10] <ubotu> gyaresu: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[00:10] <soundray> dreamnid: hit return, then ~ and . (tilde and period)
[00:10] <gyaresu> Flannel: cheers
[00:10] <branstrom> Should an Ubuntu box be accessible as just Bob or Bob.local? Should I not use a local domain name like that?
[00:10] <phenom> ag0g0girl, ppc = Power PC = Pocket PC?
[00:10] <bascule> ag0g0girl: sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[00:10] <pilot> double click speaker icon, prefrences - everything checked and turned up...nothing
[00:10] <branstrom> dns zone or whatever
[00:10] <dreamnid> soundray: wow! awesome - thanks! :-P
[00:11] <pingui> whats up people
[00:11] <htns> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/27/spain.europe.terror.plot/index.html?eref=rss_topstories#
[00:11] <_gtt_> anyone know a command i can use to find out my mobo model # ?
[00:11] <bascule> add the line ide-core, press ctrl+o then ctrl +x then run sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:11] <_gtt_> (or util)
[00:11] <jrib> !offtopic | htns
[00:11] <Shpook> Alright, I think I fixed my wireless problems. How would I run commands at startup? Just add it to "Sessions"?
[00:11] <ubotu> htns: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:13] <adub> my clock still jumps up exactly an hour
[00:13] <adub> i just did reinstall ubuntu formatted and fresh install
[00:13] <niuq> it's there any compatibility issue with a celeron processor?
[00:13] <niuq> 7.10
[00:14] <adub> naw this is amd
[00:14] <adub> yes using 7.10
[00:14] <RequinB5> jga - lspci ?
[00:14] <RequinB5> oops nevermind
[00:14] <dreamnid> adub, I think niuq was asking his own question :-P
[00:14] <soundray> niuq: no, ubuntu i386 should run on it just fine
[00:14] <adub> with ubuntu earlier version the clock was fine now it always wants to jump ahead exactly an hour
[00:14] <Shadow147> !find sdl
[00:14] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 53 others)
[00:14] <dreamnid> adub - what timezone are you using?
[00:15] <niuq> i had like 1000301231 errors while installing 7.10
[00:15] <adub> central standard time
[00:15] <niuq> something like, buffer i/o on device hdc, logical block
[00:15] <niuq> something like it
[00:15] <DG19075> got a ? for all the trusted brains here..still trying to get VLC, OpenOffice to not auto start upon reboot or restarting X. I've tried modifying the Sessions applet but no luck. Anyone with ideas....?
[00:15] <dreamnid> adub: hmm.. interesting
[00:15] <bascule> niuq: bad burn
[00:15] <theunixgeek> Does Dell's Ubuntu desktop computer allow for the desktop effects?
[00:15] <niuq> bascule: really?
[00:15] <niuq> mmmm
[00:16] <magnetron> adub: when does this one hour skip occur? do you dualboot to windows?
[00:16] <bascule> niuq: yup, burn at 8x
[00:16] <niuq> bascule: how can i check for integrity?
[00:16] <peezawaki> hi there!
[00:16] <adub> i have indiana vincennes selected and when i select have sync to internet servers it still wants to be an hour ahead
[00:16] <soundray> theunixgeek: yes
[00:16] <bascule> niuq: there is an option when you boot the cd i am sure
[00:16] <dreamnid> DG19075: Did you try the Sessions Options?
[00:16] <theunixgeek> soundray: thanks
[00:16] <DG19075> yes I did..I think
[00:16] <niuq> ok
[00:16] <adub> magnetron i dont know im not dual booting any longer i was since i redid system im running windows inside a virtual machine my entire hard disk is ext3
[00:16] <rxndx> confirming that all compiz and emerald effects/themes are working on Intel 82915G
[00:16] <Al2O3> I installed kqemu, but whereis can't seem to find it, and kqemu at the CLI won't launch it.
[00:17] <magnetron> adub: ok, i see
[00:17] <rxndx> anyone know how to get the front panel headphone jack to work?
[00:17] <niuq> bascule: and why should i burn at 8x?
[00:17] <DG19075> still no luc though
[00:17] <DG19075> luck*
[00:17] <Al2O3> Any ideas where it hides, 'sudo apt-get build-dep kqemu ; sudo apt-get install kqemu
[00:17] <magnetron> Al2O3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[00:17] <jrib> Al2O3: where what hides?
[00:17] <bascule> niuq: linux ISOs are picky ... :)
[00:18] <bascule> niuq: professional duping machines run at 8x, for good reason too
[00:18] <magnetron> Al2O3: read that guide on how to install kqemu
[00:18] <Al2O3> the installation of kqemu
[00:18] <bod_> hey guys,. how do i get compiz to start automagically?
[00:18] <Al2O3> ok, magnetron
[00:18] <Al2O3> I have qemu working no problem, just wnat to see if kqemu is faster.
[00:18] <adub> how do i get it to synchronize to the server
[00:18] <Al2O3> I heard it is significantly faster.
[00:18] <niuq> bascule: i see, well i'll try it out i think
[00:18] <dreamnid> adub: I recommend the ntpd service
[00:18] <Moe|Joe> dreamnid: ive completely lost myself now
[00:18] <Moe|Joe> lol
[00:18] <adub> if i dont want to go manual i choose sync to server and its still an hour ahead
[00:19] <Shadow147> !paste
[00:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:19] <dreamnid> Moe|Joe: HOw so?
[00:19] <niuq> bascule: thanks
[00:19] <bascule> niuq: it's almost impossible to copy a knoppix disc and get a good burn, needs to come of the ISO
[00:19] <bascule> welcome
[00:19] <AnRkey> sorry pilot, had to step out
[00:19] <DG19075> dreamnid: I did enable session options, and disable VLC, but it still comes up upon rebnoot
[00:20] <dreamnid> DG19075: I meant using the "Remember currently running applications" button in Seession Options; is this what you're talking about?
[00:20] <pilot> no problem
[00:20] <adub> which server would i select to sync to to be cst
[00:20] <DG19075> yup
[00:20] <dreamnid> adub: any
[00:20] <Pici> adub: It doenst matter.
[00:20] <levander> I'm getting sound out of the analog outs on my sound card, but not the digital outs.  Does anybody know where I can configure it so that my sound card uses the digital outs?
[00:20] <neko> hi people
[00:20] <Pici> adub: I think your problem lies with the way that your BIOS's time is set.
[00:20] <dreamnid> adub: it's based off your /etc/timezone
[00:20] <adub> i choose ntp.ubuntu.com
[00:20] <Shadow147> I am getting an sdl error and heres when I getting while preforming the sudo sh ./configure or autogen.sh http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53822/
[00:20] <AnRkey> pilot, if everything is ticked, then play with the settings. Also try enable and disabling yourmic boost. Also remember to try a plug in mic as a test.
[00:20] <adub> and im still an hour ahead
[00:21] <RedCyper_> hi @ll
[00:21] <Pici> adub: Did you pick your timezone?
[00:21] <pilot> there is only a headphone jack, no mic jack
[00:21] <adub> pici ya
[00:21] <DG19075> unchecked VLC and set it to remember that but VLC still comes up...
[00:21] <adub> America/Kentucky/Monticello
[00:21] <adub> i also tried
[00:21] <sajes> Is there a way to access a computer remotely that's on the same network as I am?
[00:22] <dreamnid> DG19075: You mean VLC is listed in Startup Programs?
[00:22] <pilot> it's a white ibook g3
[00:22] <dreamnid> sajes: ssh or VNC
[00:22] <adub> america indiana tell city
[00:22] <DG19075> yup
[00:22] <odysseas> is there anyway to access samba shares through the file add dialog in gtk2 apps?
[00:22] <JFactor> can anyone help me setup a BCM4328 Wireless card in gutsy
[00:22] <dreamnid> DG19075: interesting
[00:22] <sajes> dreamnid, thanks. I'll go google them.
[00:22] <JFactor> I have tried many things
[00:22] <DG19075> DXo I need to take it out?
[00:22] <JFactor> only to fail always
[00:22] <Moe|Joe> dreamnid: i just followed everything on... http://opencomputing.blogspot.com/2006/12/fixing-rndc-error-with-bind9.html
[00:22] <pilot> i played with all the settings and theres simply no capture device detected
[00:22] <dreamnid> DG19075: well, if it is unchecked, it shouldn't run it
[00:22] <Moe|Joe> and still dont work :(
[00:22] <dreamnid> DG19075: of course, you can try removing it too
[00:22] <adub> cool i think its fixed
[00:23] <jordan> hello, is there a way i can swap primary and secondary monitors?
[00:23] <dreamnid> DG19075: I doubt it will make a difference
[00:23] <DG19075> I just removed it from the list...
[00:23] <dreamnid> DG19075 : ok - logoff and log back in
[00:23] <neko> what is the command to know the cpu temperature ?
[00:23] <adub> yeah its set right now thanks guys
[00:24] <soundray> neko: try acpi -V
[00:24] <dreamnid> neko: sensors
[00:24] <neko> thanks
[00:24] <RequinB5> I'm supposed to insert the LiveCD in /cdrom, but neither of my drives seem to do this.  Would it be acceptablet o just copy the files from the CD-ROM to /cdrom
[00:24] <Shadow147> while compiling a program I go this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53822/
[00:24] <Shadow147> got*
[00:24] <adub> problem i think was i was manual setting with wrong time zone so it was stepping up one hour for whatever reason i set it to ntp and choose right time zone and it sets itself back
[00:24] <adub> to correct time
[00:24] <neko> okey acpi -V did the job
[00:24] <dreamnid> Requin85: ok... wait, what areyou trying to do?
[00:25] <neko> also my hdd is damn hot
[00:25] <neko> on my laptop
[00:25] <Jobias> hi, i'm unable to login due to an error with .ICEauthority and gnome. when i googled the problem, i got a lot of solutions involving permissions, which i tried with no success. however i think i now know what the problem is: the error says that it cannot lock the file /home/jwleung/.ICEauthority, but my username is jwl not jwleung. how do i convince gnome to look in /home/jwl/ and not /home/jwleung/?
[00:25] <SpookyET> The reason why I want to install arch is because I like snowball releases. Snowballs don't stop at the middle of the mountain an wait 6 months. I keep hitting into walls with Ubuntu because packages are old and do not have the functionality I need in the name of stability. And, backports is pretty stale.
[00:25] <neko> is there command to set him be cooler  ?
[00:25] <RequinB5> dreamnid - restricted devices manager says to put the CD in /cdrom.  I've put it in both my CD drives but neither fixes the error, in fact both give me "cannot unmount, may be busy"
[00:25] <DG19075> dreamnid.. just restarted X but VLC still pops up... very strange
[00:25] <soundray> Shadow147: 'sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev'
[00:26] <RequinB5> dreamnid - ok, well apparently /cdrom links to /media/cdrom0
[00:26] <pete> I have two video cards, one PCI and one AGP, with the AGP being an old nvidia card (not sure of the model, sorry). X won't start at all because it claims that there are no screens to be found, but it also gives an error about no nvidia module being found, either. Not really sure where to go from here, basically I'd like both monitors that I have plugged in (one on each card) to work independently, on different X displays.
[00:26] <pete> any suggestions?
[00:26] <dreamnid> Requin85: yeah
[00:27] <Shadow147> soundray I have that package already installed
[00:27] <jga> in my network/interfaces, what are my options for wireless-mode?
[00:27] <soundray> Shadow147: try deleting the config cache then
[00:28] <Shadow147> soundray how do I do that?
[00:28] <dreamnid> Requin85: I would suggest logging off and back in and see if the error is still there
[00:28] <dreamnid> Requin85: or trying umount -l /media/cdrom0 although not sure if that will work
[00:28] <soundray> Shadow147: I don't know, it depends on the program. One sure way would be to delete the entire source directory and re-unpack it from the archive
[00:28] <RequinB5> dreamnid - hold on.  i'll try that but thats basically the back end of what the manager is trying to do
[00:29] <Shadow147> ok
[00:29] <Shadow147> soundray ok thanks
[00:29] <techgeek40> Okay - FINALLY got compiz-fusion configured (I love new toys) - but two questions - first exactly what is emerald?
[00:29] <tonyyarusso> Any ideas what I could use to convert Quicktime .MOV files to Ogg Vorbis?
[00:30] <soundray> tonyyarusso: you want to extract the soundtrack?
[00:30] <dreamnid> techgeek40: It's a windows decorator
[00:30] <techgeek40> Tonyyaruss: http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tutorials/convert/mov/ogg.php
[00:30] <dreamnid> techgeek40: More customizable/advanced than the default Metacity
[00:30] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Doh, I misspoke.  Although, I do actually want to extract the soundtrack for one of the files, my main question was actually for _Theora_.
[00:30] <techgeek40> dreamnid: Any idea where I can get some more themes -
[00:30] <tonyyarusso> techgeek40: Looks promising.
[00:30] <dreamnid> techgeek40: No, I don't use emerald myself... although I probably should
[00:31] <RequinB5> dreamnid - ok the cd is in /media/cdrom0 ... relogged in.... "unable to unmount the CD-ROM in /cdrom/, it may still be in use"
[00:31] <soundray> tonyyarusso: I think I would look to mencoder first
[00:31] <tonyyarusso> soundray: all right
[00:31] <Shadow147> soundray it didn't work
[00:31] <n6pfk> I have a usb hd that disappears when copying from it to my hd.  I can remount it only by using the next sd?1 device name?
[00:31] <neko> 46°C for the hd seems okey to you ?
[00:31] <dreamnid> RequinB5: ok, try sudo umount -j /media/cdrom0
[00:31] <soundray> Shadow147: are you sure you have the -dev package for libsdl installed?
[00:31] <dreamnid> RequinB5: actually, try sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0
[00:32] <Shadow147> soundray ues I have it installed
[00:32] <Shadow147> soundray yes**
[00:32] <SANTAbios> how do i uninstall from the command line is it apt-get uninstall?
[00:32] <RequinB5> umount2: invalid argument ; umount: /media/cdrom0 not mounted
[00:32] <dreamnid> SANTAbios: sudo apt-get remove
[00:32] <RequinB5> then it should work -.-
[00:33] <mcisbackuk> SANTAbios: 'apt-get remove'
[00:33] <dreamnid> RequinB5: err..
[00:33] <soundray> Shadow147: does the file /usr/bin/sdl-config exist?
[00:33] <SANTAbios> thanks
[00:33] <Shadow147> soundray yes
[00:33] <SANTAbios> ok now for more advanced question have yall ever setup dovecot imap server on ubuntu?
[00:33] <thechris> I need help with the "install from linux" method
[00:33] <thechris> i can boot a 32bit livecd from the HDD, but not 64bit
[00:34] <dreamnid> SANTAbios: yeah.... using the guide from the Ubuntu wiki
[00:34] <thechris> it hangs after it finds the mouse
[00:34] <RequinB5> dreamnid - i can type out the actual 4 line error msg
[00:34] <bod_> thechris, is it a 64 bit machine?
[00:34] <dreamnid> RequinB5: I'm just confused where umount2 comes from
[00:34] <JFactor> Can anyone help?
[00:34] <SANTAbios> dreamnid did u get squirrellmail to work?
[00:34] <_daniel__> Anyone familiar with netcat ?
[00:34] <dreamnid> RequinB5: Did you noticed that I used the -f and not the -j
[00:34] <dreamnid> SANTAbios: yep
[00:34] <RequinB5> yes, it wouldn't accept -j
[00:35] <dreamnid> RequinB5: Maybe it will be easier if you did a restart?
[00:35] <dreamnid> RequinB5: not sure if anybody else has a better idea
[00:35] <soundray> Shadow147: what do you get when you run sdl-config?
[00:35] <RequinB5> dreamnid - might as well.  This is my "problem box"
[00:35] <soundray> Shadow147: (should just be a usage message)
[00:36] <Shadow147> soundray yes thats wat I got
[00:36] <odysseas> is there any way to access samba shares throught the Add File dialog in GTK2 applications?
[00:36] <SANTAbios> dreamnid what was the url for instructions?
[00:36] <thechris> bod_: yes
[00:36] <soundray> Shadow147: and sdl-config --version says 1.2.11 ?
[00:36] <JFactor> exit
[00:37] <Shadow147> soundray yes
[00:37] <techgeek40> <---dancing in glee (for the moment)
[00:37] <dreamnid> SANTAbios: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto#head-38e5ee5a1e3385cde810bf2ab24bd41b13979adf
[00:37] <techgeek40> LOL In a few hours I will probably be pulling my hair out getting my NetGear PCMCIA card working for wireless internet
[00:38] <soundray> Shadow147: in that case I would look in the configure script of your source package and see whether it does something weird when it runs sdl-config
[00:38] <dreamnid> DG19075: Any luck?
[00:38] <mohbana> hi, does anyone know how to share torrent between os's.  I use windows and ubuntu, utorrent and azureus.  basically when i switch to ubuntu i want azureus to detect all the files i download whilst on windows and resume them
[00:39] <dreamnid> mmm, maybe you can tell Azureus to monitor a folder for your .torrent files?
[00:39] <dreamnid> I know you can do this for deluge
[00:40] <Kitar|st> just modified my forum a bit www.ceriatoneforum.com (forum about guitar amps) Marshall Clones...
[00:40] <Kitar|st> hehe
[00:40] <dreamnid> and of course make sure Windows and Linux can read/write to that folder
[00:40] <ThipThip> How do I put a CTRL-C in a script?
[00:40] <techgeek40> mohbana: you'll need to make sure both OS's can share the same folder and that is where they will download the torrents to the same folder
[00:40] <mohbana> yep i made sure they are both downloading to the same folder
[00:40] <soundray> ThipThip: kill -s 15 pid
[00:41] <AnRkey> ThipThip, what is the ctrl-c for in the script?
[00:41] <Shadow147> soundray looks like it's looking fot the test
[00:41] <mohbana> dreamnid, does deluge offer ssimiliar features to azureus
[00:41] <sam_> anyone know of a tool i can use in ubuntu to stitch together a few short video clips?
[00:41] <dreamnid> mohbana: I never used Azureus, so I can't tell you for sure
[00:41] <Shadow147> soundray scrip and its not finding it for some reason
[00:41] <bascule> sam_: kino
[00:41] <dreamnid> mohbana: but I think Deluge is a lighter-weight BT client
[00:41] <Freakingme> acc. to netstat, I've got a service running on port   53 (both tcp and udp I think), however, when I telnet that app, no reply is given, also when I do a strace on that particular service, no info about the expected request is given. How do I debug that? (it dont matter whether I use telnet or dig (it's about dns indeed))
[00:41] <ThipThip> AnRkey:  I want to terminate devilspie mid-script
[00:41] <dreamnid> mohbana: so probably not
[00:41] <soundray> Shadow147: is it using the correct syntax according to the usage message?
[00:41] <JFactor> Does anyone know how to use ndsiwrapper to set up BCM4328 wireless card in gutsy
[00:42] <BenderUnit22> mohbana: as dreamnid told you, deluge by fair isn't as, eh, "feature rich" as Azureus is.
[00:42] <BenderUnit22> s/fair/far/
[00:42] <ThipThip> AnRkey (and move on with other commands)
[00:42] <dreamnid> mohbana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client
[00:42] <AnRkey> ThipThip, then use the exit command
[00:42] <AnRkey> or if you want to start something that does not end
[00:42] <akromyk> what is the linux equivalent of Daemon Tools?
[00:42] <techgeek40> mohbana: but the problem is that most torrents that I know of won't resume *IF* the torrent is not already listed in the app for downloading
[00:42] <dreamnid> mohbana : I would be surprised if Azureus cannot monitor a folder for .torrent files though
[00:42] <AnRkey> then run command here &
[00:42] <soundray> !mountiso | akromyk
[00:42] <ubotu> akromyk: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[00:43] <AnRkey> the & makes it run in the background
[00:43] <Shpook> How do share files between two Gutsy computers?
[00:43] <akromyk> thanks
[00:43] <dreamnid> Shpook: You can use NFS or Samba
[00:43] <Freakingme> Shpook over nfs?
[00:43] <Shpook> Whichever is best. :-)
[00:43] <akee> can anyone help me with a problem i am having trying to set my timezone?
[00:43] <Shadow147> soundray do you want me to send the congiure script?
[00:43] <Shpook> Is it just a matter of installation, or is there a walkthrough I can refer to?
[00:44] <syntaxerror55> There's a major typo on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour, "If you are upgrading from Ubuntu 7.04, we have special easy to follow upgrade instructions."
[00:44] <soundray> Shadow147: okay, then. Pastebin pls
[00:44] <AnRkey> Shpook, u can use ssh too
[00:44] <AnRkey> Shpook, google >> sshfs
[00:44] <akee> running "date" displays the time in terms of UTC
[00:45] <mohbana> dreamnid, are monitoring using deluge?
[00:45] <Shpook> AnRkey: I haven't learned how to use ssh yet. :-( Thanks though, I'll go look into it now.
[00:45] <Freakingme> syntaxerror55 what's the error? I dont see it
[00:45] <akee> but my /etc/localtime is linked to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific
[00:45] <Shadow147> soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53825/
[00:45] <michalski> syntaxerror55 :S
[00:45] <neko> is 44°C for the hard disk when i do nothing is normal ?
[00:45] <syntaxerror55> Freakingme: "we have special easy to follow upgrade instructions"
[00:45] <soundray> syntaxerror55: what's the typo?
[00:45] <dreamnid> Shpook: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[00:45] <michalski> syntaxerror55: .....
[00:45] <AnRkey> neko, no it's too hot then
[00:46] <syntaxerror55> soundray: michalski: special easy
[00:46] <dreamnid> Shpook: Although you can share folders by right hand clicking and selecting "share" sorta like Windows
[00:46] <Freakingme> syntaxerror55 it's 1:45 am here, help me out please ;)
[00:46] <AnRkey> neko, make sure it's got space above it and beneath it
[00:46] <RequinB5> ok, getting some kind of somthing working... I need firmware to run my wireless card, restricted drivers manager tells me "The software source for the package bcm34xx-fwcutter is not enabled."
[00:46] <dreamnid> mohbana: I'm sorry, I don't follow you
[00:46] <neko> ?
[00:46] <michalski> syntaxerror55: ok so you put in a comma, Special,easy to follow, intructions
[00:46] <Shpook> dreamnid: Thank you for the link. I tried that, but neither computer will recongize the shared folder of the other.
[00:46] <soundray> syntaxerror55: read 'we have special, easy-to-follow upgrade instructions'
[00:46] <neko> ah maybe it'is this as my hdd is near full
[00:46] <dreamnid> Shpook: using nfs?
[00:46] <danbhfive> !enablesources > RequinB5
[00:47] <syntaxerror55> soundray: but there's no comma.
[00:47] <AnRkey> neko, if the hdd is near the front of the case, like most cases, then install an 80mm fan to draw air over the drives.
[00:47] <neko> i notice is the hotness because it's a laptop
[00:47] <dreamnid> shpook: do you get any error messages?
[00:47] <dreamnid> shpook: wheen you connect
[00:47] <michalski> syntaxerror55: and you call that major? :P nobody's perfect
[00:47] <mohbana> dreamnid, deluge supports monitoring folders right?
[00:47] <Freakingme> syntaxerror55 that doesn't mean it's wrong I'd guess..
[00:47] <soundray> syntaxerror55: according to most style guides I know, the comma would be optional in this place.
[00:47] <shachaf> Question: I want to download the whole Ubuntu APT repository, to install on several offline computers.
[00:47] <dreamnid> mohbana: Let me double check
[00:47] <syntaxerror55> michalski: soundray: Freakingme: I wasn't reading it the way you guys were.
[00:47] <shachaf> Is there a standard/best way of doing that?
[00:47] <neko> i mean i feel its heat on my laps
[00:47] <soundray> syntaxerror55: I agree it's not beautiful English, but it's not a typo.
[00:47] <ThipThip> AnRkey: the exit command does not work.
[00:47] <bascule> !mirror
[00:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[00:47] <Freakingme> syntaxerror55 dont you worry, it isn't too good
[00:47] <whitewoman> omg Ubuntu says when i try to install fedora etc that it does n't have enough space for '/' when i select install in free space. please help me
[00:48] <dreamnid> mohbana: Yes, you can
[00:48] <mike5805> hi all i was looking into running my own irc server, does anyone have any info on that
[00:48] <Shpook> dreamnid: lol honestly, I barely know what I'm doing. I just assumed it would show up under "Network" in "Places." :-/
[00:48] <neko> and was used to be cooler when runing on winXP
[00:48] <shachaf> (Especially with minimal trouble on the computers to install on?)
[00:48] <tacone> shachaf: how do you plan to carry it around ?
[00:48] <nemilar> neko: how much cooler?
[00:48] <dreamnid> Shpook: hmmm
[00:48] <michalski> syntaxerror55: read carefully :)
[00:48] <shachaf> tacone: A portable hard drive (80GB).
[00:48] <danbhfive> shachaf: why do you want the WHOLE apt repo?  isnt it like 20gig?
[00:48] <AnRkey> ThipThip, end
[00:48] <soundray> neko: 2.6.22 is slightly wasteful on modern CPUs. The hardy kernel will be better in that respect.
[00:48] <AnRkey> ThipThip, quit
[00:48] <dreamnid> Shpook: So wait, did you follow the client instructions for the link I sent you?
[00:48] <bascule> shachaf: there is apt-proxy package, worth a look
[00:49] <AnRkey> Shpook, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[00:49] <tacone> he could mirror it.
[00:49] <dreamnid> shachaf: I think you ahve to look into the apt-cache package
[00:49] <AnRkey> Shpook, http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[00:49] <neko> near the whole computer is cool when not doing heavy audio processing on winXP
[00:49] <dreamnid> shachaf: actually, ignore what I said :-P
[00:49] <nemilar> Shpook: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/sshfshowto.php
[00:49] <Shpook> dreamnid: Not yet, I was still reading through that and sshfs
[00:49] <ThipThip> AnRkey:  Nope and nope.  Is there really no way to include ctrl-c in a script?
[00:49] <tacone> !aptoncd | shachaf
[00:49] <ubotu> shachaf: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[00:49] <bascule> shachaf: apt-cacher actually
[00:50] <neko> and just  browsing on ubuntu  make the computer hot enough to make me not able to have babies
[00:50] <mohbana> dreamnid, where is it?
[00:50] <tacone> but that's not whole.
[00:50] <AnRkey> ThipThip, no
[00:50] <neko> okey that some kernel issue then ?
[00:50] <CrazyWulf> How do I use cd record to *try* and burn an image?
[00:50] <soundray> ThipThip: what was wrong with my suggestion?
[00:50] <tacone> I guess even wget could work
[00:50] <AnRkey> ThipThip, you can end a process
[00:50] <CrazyWulf> or is there's another way to see what the problem is
[00:50] <shachaf> tacone: There's also apt-mirror.
[00:50] <Shpook> AnRkey, nemilar: Thanks, Now how do I decide what to use? :-P
[00:50] <AnRkey> ThipThip, with signals
[00:50] <dreamnid> mohbana: http://download.deluge-torrent.org/index.php?dir=ubuntu/gutsy/0.5.8.2/&file=deluge-torrent_0.5.8.2-1_i386.gutsy.deb
[00:50] <bascule> CrazyWulf: cdrecord -vv dev=/dev/scd0 speed=8 some.iso
[00:50] <jstarcher> how can I tell which IRQ's are being used on my system?
[00:50] <soundray> ThipThip: kill -s 15 pid
[00:50] <ThipThip> soundray:  It doesnt
[00:50] <AnRkey> Shpook, do you have windows computers on your network?
[00:50] <mohbana> dreamnid, ive got deluge where about is monitoring folder
[00:51] <michalski> is there an AVI converter that works on ubuntu, its to burn stuff to dvd
[00:51] <shachaf> Ideally I would eventually put this on one of the computers, and let it serve the packages to the rest.
[00:51] <ThipThip> soundray: It doesn't seem to work.  Everything leaves it sitting there.  Until I manuall press ctrl-C
[00:51] <dreamnid> mohbana: If you look in preference
[00:51] <ThipThip> *manually
[00:51] <bruce_> hello! im new to ubuntu can anyone help me find a converter for video files???
[00:51] <dreamnid> mohbana: Under the Autoload section
[00:51] <Shpook> AnRkey: One, but it doesn't need to be accessed.
[00:51] <neko> this hardy kernel is something available for us ubuntu user ?
[00:51] <soundray> ThipThip: are you using the correct process id?
[00:51] <bascule> jstarcher: cat /proc/interrupts
[00:51] <syntaxerror55> bruce_: from what to what?
[00:51] <nemilar> bruce_: avidemux
[00:51] <AnRkey> Shpook, does the windows pc need to access anything?
[00:51] <bruce_> for avi to mp4
[00:51] <soundray> neko: yes, from April (date of the next release, Ubuntu Hardy Heron)
[00:52] <jstarcher> bascule, thx
[00:52] <ThipThip> soundray:  How can my script know what the correct process ID is?
[00:52] <JFactor> Does anyone know how to use ndsiwrapper?
[00:52] <Shpook> AnRkey: Not really, maybe a text document very rarely, but that can be e-mailed
[00:52] <CrazyWulf>  No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/scd0'. Cannot open or use SCSI driver.
[00:52] <neko> okey then i will keep the computer on a table until april ;)
[00:52] <michalski> syntaxerror55: in reference to that i need something to convert AVI to dvd ...type :P to burn
[00:52] <neko> hope it will be better on managing power
[00:52] <zetheroo> how do I stop XGL from loading with a session?
[00:52] <ricky_clarkson> Is it reasonable to install Ubuntu to a removable drive?  How would I typically boot to that, via a CD?
[00:52] <Plen0x> Okay, some how or another my resolution is a bit off.
[00:52] <syntaxerror55> bruce_: I'm not sure about that, you could try avidemux, but I'm not sure about what that tool does.
[00:53] <dreamnid> Shpook: It depends... sshfs, the transmission will be encrypted
[00:53] <Plen0x> By, like 3 pixels :/
[00:53] <AnRkey> Shpook, then use samba's smb shares. SMB is what windows uses and it works just as well as nfs and ssh
[00:53] <bascule> CrazyWulf: try dev=/dev/hdc or dev=/dev/hdd
[00:53] <nemilar> Shpook: if it's an intranet, then if with windows machines use Samba, if without windows machines use NFS; if over the internet, sshfs
[00:53] <Plen0x> How do I set it back to default that ubuntu found?
[00:53] <ThipThip> All I really want it for my script to check if a window with a particular title exists before opening a new window with the same title.  I'm shocked that it is this complicated.
[00:53] <mohbana> dreamnid, i cant find it ubuntu installed 0.5.4.1 ... probablly doesnt have it
[00:53] <dreamnid> shpook: samba if you want to share with windows... nfs I think is the easiest
[00:53] <syntaxerror55> michalski: I was just trying to get him to say more fo the question so someone could help him. :P
[00:53] <bruce_> ok ill check it out.. thanx
[00:53] <shogsbro> anyone having trouble with 7.10 server edition on x64 giving segmentation faults on various binaries (ld, cc1)
[00:53] <soundray> ThipThip: it can look it up in ps output, it could use killall to refer to the process by name, or the process you want to interrupt may have left its pid in /var/run/
[00:53] <dreamnid> mohbana, I'm sorry?
[00:53] <bascule> ThipThip: use py-orbit
[00:53] <JFactor> ex-chat
[00:53] <zetheroo> anyone?
[00:53] <AnRkey> Shpook,  ssh is nice for slow links as it compresses data that is transmitted
[00:53] <mohbana> dreamnid, tis the version of deluge i have
[00:53] <michalski> syntaxerror55: haha atleast some people are willing to admit it
[00:53] <ThipThip> I have figured out how to use devilspie to simply close all windows with the titles in question, but then it stays open (which could be useful for future ventures) but for now I just want it to close so that my script can open the new windows.
[00:53] <AnRkey> g'night all
[00:53] <michalski> is there an AVI converter that works on ubuntu, its to burn stuff to dvd?
[00:53] <ag0g0girl> man
[00:54] <lazkapital> hello may i ask a question about CPU regognizing
[00:54] <ag0g0girl> that was a bust
[00:54] <dreamnid> mohbana: I did link you to the newest version
[00:54] <michalski> lazkapital: yea sure
[00:54] <bascule> ag0g0girl: not work?
[00:54] <syntaxerror55> !ask | lazkapital
[00:54] <ubotu> lazkapital: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:54] <mohbana> dreamnid, i prefer to use apt to install
[00:54] <zetheroo> how do I stop XGL from loading with a session?
[00:54] <lazkapital> well i have a 1 processor but it show 2 cpu in system monitor
[00:54] <Shpook> It'll only be via local intranet, and I'm not too worried about encryption.
[00:54] <dreamnid> mohbana: ok
[00:54] <soundray> ThipThip: just do a killall devilspie then (although if there's a pid file in /var/run, that would be a cleaner solution)
[00:55] <lazkapital> my cpu is p4 3.2ghz
[00:55] <dreamnid> mohbana: yeah, deluge used to have a deb repository, but they've stopped updating it
[00:55] <danbhfive> lazkapital: is it dual core?
[00:55] <michalski> lazkapital: you probably have a dual core processor (1 processor/2 sorting sections)
[00:55] <lazkapital> no it isnt
[00:55] <ThipThip> soundray:  I would, but see when one runs devilspie, is just chills with a blinking cursor and doesn't go back to a regular prompt until ctrl-c
[00:55] <Shpook> Okay, so I'll follow this link: http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html, and report back to you guys.
[00:55] <mohbana> dreamnid, do you have share torrents?
[00:55] <danbhfive> lazkapital: is it hyper-threading? or hyper something?
[00:55] <mohbana> between windows and linux
[00:56] <protcront> i want to open mdb file which is access database ? which tool should i use
[00:56] <dreamnid> mohbana: Share torrents?
[00:56] <soundray> lazkapital: it will emulate two processors by hyperthreading. You can disable that in the BIOS setup
[00:56] <whitewoman> omg Ubuntu says when i try to install fedora etc that it does n't have enough space for '/' when i select install in free space. please help me
[00:56] <BenderUnit22> protcront: there's limited support for that; check out kexi (a KDE app).
[00:56] <dreamnid> mohbana: oh, no
[00:56] <mohbana> protcront, try open office
[00:56] <lazkapital> how can i learn if it is hyper-threading or hyper
[00:56] <Zombine> Anyone know how to change the amount of a touchpad used for scrolling in the config file
[00:56] <Shpook> dreamnid, AnRkey, nemilar: Thank you very much for your help. :-)
[00:56] <dreamnid> Shpook: np
[00:56] <CrazyWulf> bascule: both giving same message again
[00:56] <michalski> whitewomen: be sure you have enough space OVERALL on your hard disk
[00:56] <protcront> didnt work with kexi and not with openoffice
[00:56] <bascule> CrazyWulf: sudo cdrecord --scanbus
[00:57] <soto> Why does my cron entry "* */1 * * *" run every minute?
[00:57] <zetheroo> anyone?
[00:57] <BenderUnit22> protcront: out of luck then, I'm afraid.
[00:57] <protcront> mohbana: didnt work with kexi and not with openoffice
[00:57] <soundray> ThipThip: you can't possibly have tried all my suggestion in the time it took you to reply.
[00:57] <lazkapital> thx anyway i will try to disable hyperthreading at bios in next start
[00:57] <akorn> Hey, does anybody know why when i play movies, they're coming out in dull colours? Basically no colours at all actually...but the little preview of them as icons show full colour and all :S
[00:57] <mohbana> dreamnid, is installing the package the same as using apt?
[00:57] <danbhfive> lazkapital: why would you do that?
[00:57] <AlexKibler> Hi.
[00:57] <ThipThip> soundray:  Of course I did.  :-)
[00:57] <michalski> Reasking --- is there an AVI converter that works on ubuntu, its to burn stuff to dvd?
[00:57] <dreamnid> mohbana: Pretty much... it will be listed in synaptic
[00:57] <AlexKibler> I've got a question.
[00:57] <BenderUnit22> !hi | AlexKibler
[00:57] <ubotu> AlexKibler: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:58] <lazkapital> cpu usage is is about 90% alltime
[00:58] <dreamnid> mohbana: and you can remove the .deb package through apt-get remove
[00:58] <danbhfive> lazkapital: thats not hyperthreading
[00:58] <ThipThip> soundray:  Kill / killall / any other command does not work after typing devilspie until one interrupts with ctrl-c
[00:58] <syntaxerror55> michalski: I'm leaning towards That'd be nice, since dvd isn't well supported.
[00:58] <michalski> !ask | alexkibler
[00:58] <ubotu> alexkibler: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:58] <AlexKibler> Does anyone know of a program that works with windows so that I can run ubuntu without uninstalling windows?
[00:58] <syntaxerror55> AlexKibler: Dual-Boot.
[00:58] <goudkov> is there any reason not to use aptitude and instead only use updates manager?
[00:58] <lazkapital> how can i thrubleshoot what cause that high usage
[00:58] <AlexKibler> My mom likes Windows Vista, but I wanna use Ubuntu, and she won't let me uninstall windows.
[00:58] <jrib> soto: what do you think it should do?
[00:59] <AlexKibler> Dual-Boot?  Thanks.  I'll look it up.  Be right back
[00:59] <Shadow147> well soundray what have you found
[00:59] <syntaxerror55> !dualboot | AlexKibler
[00:59] <ubotu> AlexKibler: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[00:59] <CrazyWulf>  1000,1,0 100001) '�M���M��' '<N���M���M���M��' '�M��' vendor specific 6 unknown device type 0x1c
[00:59] <CrazyWulf> hmm
[00:59] <zetheroo> how can I stop XGL from loading with a session?
[00:59] <michalski> syntaxerror55: gee thanks :P
[00:59] <Zombine> AlexKibler You can change the size of your OS partition in Vista
[00:59] <soundray> Shadow147: I haven't found anything. Did you give me a URL?
[00:59] <syntaxerror55> michalski: sorry, but I wanted to give you a real answer.
[00:59] <shogsbro> i've now got 3 (up-to-date) 7.10 servers giving segmentation faults in various system binaries, all x64. Anyone else seeing this, or do I have hardware issue?
[00:59] <Zombine> AlexKibler Do you know how to get to Disk Manager?
[00:59] <dreamnid> mohana: here's the ppa repo for deluge that I was talking about : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625964
[00:59] <Shadow147> soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53825/
[00:59] <CrazyWulf> Giving me different answers each time I type it
[01:00] <CrazyWulf> Sometimes:    1000,1,0 100001) 'ADAPTEC ' 'ACB-5500        ' 'FAKE' NON CCS Removable reserved Disk
[01:00] <dreamnid> mohana: Like I said, it hasn't been update for awhile, but I think it should have the autoload feature
[01:00] <bascule> CrazyWulf: is the drive master or slave?
[01:00] <michalski> have to go, bye
[01:00] <CrazyWulf> master
[01:00] <michalski> !bye | michalski
[01:00] <michalski> just wanted to try
[01:01] <bascule> CrazyWulf: sudo cdrecord -vv dev=ATA:1,0,0 speed=8 some.iso
[01:01] <GreyWolfe> Can anyone either help me install GRUB 2, or point me to some step-by-step, noob friendly instructions? I have been told that installing it should help resolve some of the GRUB errors I am having.
[01:01] <AlexKibler> Zombine, you mean Right Click My PC and go to Manage?
[01:02] <Zombine> AlexKibler I don't remember exactly where, but it shows you all your HDDs and partitions.
[01:02] <AlexKibler> Yeah, I'm there.  I'm reading a tut on what to do
[01:02] <mooglinux_> one thing you might try is downloading and burning supergrub disk
[01:02] <Zombine> AlexKibler Just right click on your Windows partition, and click shrink parition.
[01:03] <Zombine> AlexKibler I would give like 10GB or so to Linux if you didn't plan on intalling much on it.  You could use the win partition for storage still too if you wanted
[01:03] <dreamnid> Zombine: Are you talking about GParted?
[01:03] <Shadow147> is there a way to fix the sdl-config
[01:04] <ThipThip> YES!  I have found a program that will close a window by title.  It's called wmctrl.  Thanks soundray, astro76, bascule, and AnRkey for helping me out with this pain of a project.
[01:04] <RequinB5> "The software source for the package bcm34xx-fwcutter is not enabled." error msg still occurs after playing around with the software sources... I don't have access to the internet, but the liveCD is in /cdrom
[01:04] <Zombine> dreamnid Nope... Windows Vista has a partition editor built in
[01:04] <Zombine> dreamnid Even able to mess with them while the OS is booted
[01:04] <dreamnid> Zombine: Oops, didn't realize you were talking about Vista
[01:05] <bascule> ThipThip: yeee-haa! :D
[01:05] <lazkapital> problem was the wineserver
[01:05] <bascule> lmao
[01:05] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: Were you answering me?
[01:05] <surreal> I have a monitor that can run 1920x1200 but the highest resolution gnome with compiz is recognizing is 1600x1200, any help?
[01:05] <whitewoman> fedora is taking forever to scan all the hard drives
[01:05] <RequinB5> "The software source for the package bcm34xx-fwcutter is not enabled." error msg still occurs after playing around with the software sources... I don't have access to the internet, but the liveCD is in /cdrom - any ideas how to get this package -.-
[01:05] <soundray> Shadow147: sorry, I can't crack it. Are the various snes ubuntu packages no good?
[01:06] <zetheroo> can I make a session which will not load XGL and one that does?
[01:06] <bmk789> how do i burn a DVD iso from the command line?
[01:06] <dreamnid> RequinB5: You'll probably have to add the cd in /etc/apt/source.list
[01:06] <bascule> whitewoman: from install off live cd after resizing? needs a reboot sometimes
[01:06] <Shadow147> soundsoundray I want to compile these older versions so I can test some things
[01:06] <ThipThip> soundray, astro76, bascule, and AnRkey: What I'm actually trying to do is create a script that will cause slimmed-down nautilus windows to be fixed to the faces of the cube, giving me a small, minimal desktop on each side with a customized background.  I needed to do it in a script so that I could gconftool the toolbars out and then back in after it was done.
[01:06] <dreamnid> RequinB5: Although I don't know the command to read off the cd
[01:06] <bascule> bmk789: sudo cdrecord -vv dev=ATA:1,0,0 speed=8 some.iso
[01:07] <whitewoman> bascule> no this isn't a fresh install
[01:07] <Shadow147> soundray I complied the latest version easily
[01:07] <bmk789> bascule: ty
[01:07] <Kozaru> anyone here got experience using both sabayon and ubuntu?
[01:08] <bascule> bmk789: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso or that, mess with the dev stuff if needed
[01:08] <bascule> CrazyWulf: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
[01:08] <zetheroo> anyone?
[01:08] <soundray> Shadow147: sorry, I haven't got any other suggestions for you
[01:09] <Shadow147> soundray ok thanks
[01:09] <mooglinux_> im looking for some help with gnome-network-preferances and the http_proxy enviornment variable
[01:10] <niuq> i'm still having problem trying to install ubuntu 7.1.0, i've already burned the cd at 4x and also with the isso....i do not know what happnd then...
[01:10] <GreyWolfe> Can anyone either help me install GRUB 2, or point me to some step-by-step, noob friendly instructions? I have been told that installing it should help resolve some of the GRUB errors I am having.
[01:10] <dreamnid> mohana: I just looked in the user guide for Azureus, and it does have what I was talking about
[01:10] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: try using superGRUB disk
[01:11] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: I have, I get the same errors as when I boot without it.
[01:11] <zetheroo> I have created a new User and would liek to not have XGL load with it.... is this possible?
[01:11] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: mmm, what is the error you get?
[01:11] <dreamnid> mohbana: In Azureus, it should be preferences: Files->Torrents ; Under Import new .torrents automatically
[01:11] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: Had several, right now I am getting error 21
[01:12] <zetheroo> I found the following ... but don't quite understand the thing about making a new file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616536
[01:12] <ATG> exit
[01:12] <Testman01> ATG :)
[01:13] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: error 21 means its an unknown error. what did you do that made it spit out errors?
[01:13] <soundray> zetheroo: when logged in as that user, run the command "touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable"
[01:13] <Elive_user75> will ubuntu install on a dell poweredge 2950 server w/ perc6/i controller?
[01:13] <soundray> zetheroo: this will create an empty file, which is all that you need for the purpose
[01:13] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: Unknown error? What I am reading says 21 : Selected disk does not exist
[01:14] <zetheroo> soundray: will I have to do that every time I log in as that user?
[01:14] <soundray> zetheroo: no
[01:14] <syntaxerror55> Elive_user75: probably
[01:14] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: No idea what I am doing wrong, it is a fresh install.
[01:14] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: i must be reading off an incorrect web page then. can you get into linux or any os?
[01:15] <rhino7> help me
[01:15] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, fresh installs give me the most surprises
[01:15] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: Can't boot anything, I am using a LiveCD right now
[01:15] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: with?
[01:15] <rhino7> gparted is scanning the drive forever and ever i waited and hour is it suppose to be like that?
[01:15] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: No.
[01:16] <rhino7> syntaxerror55> i also restarted many times like 300 times
[01:16] <RequinB5> rhino7 - what are you trying to do
[01:16] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, wacha problem?
[01:16] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: have you tried using supergrubdisk to try to repair grub
[01:16] <rhino7> syntaxerror55> resize the drive
[01:16] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: Sure have
[01:16] <rhino7> RequinB5 resize
[01:16] <rhino7> what is wrong with it?
[01:16] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, can't boot?
[01:16] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Getting error 21 when I try to boot, I have a /boot partition that GRUB should be pointed at
[01:16] <Shadow147> BLAH
[01:17] <Kozaru> BLAH back
[01:17] <syntaxerror55> BLAH
[01:17] <syntaxerror55> ...is now trendy
[01:17] <desertc> How do I uncompress a LZH file in Ubuntu?
[01:17] <Kozaru> ubuntulog: is also trendy...
[01:17] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: next would be to try to edit the grub file, cant remember off the top of my head the path of it
[01:17] <rhino7> syntaxerror55>  RequinB5> is there another tool? i have virtual box installed by the way
[01:17] <rhino7> syntaxerror55>  RequinB5> hello?
[01:17] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: You could always try the GParted LiveCD
[01:17] <Kozaru> solid_liq: why not blah in this ubuntu channel?
[01:17] <GreyWolfe> mooglinux_: I know where to find it, what changes?
[01:18] <syntaxerror55> !patience | rhino7
[01:18] <ubotu> rhino7: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> desertc: install lha
 i tghought you left
 thought* did you?
[01:18] <PyChild> desertc, enable the universe repostories and search for lhz in synaptic
[01:18] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: it sounds as if the path to the boot is incorrect or else it is not recognizing your partitions
[01:18] <desertc> tonyyarusso: tried that - multiverse repository says the package is missing or obsoleted
[01:18] <RequinB5> !fdisk
[01:18] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: I didn't leave. Again, you could always try the GParted LiveCD
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <desertc> PyChild: I'll give it a shot, thanks!
[01:19] <bad_cables> is there anyone who uses Xubuntu who can tell me why i got moofed from my wireless WPA personal while in the middle of an update... this is 7.10
[01:19] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, indeed it sounds as if you changed a drive connector
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> desertc: odd - installs fine on Hardy
[01:19] <rhino7> syntaxerror55  but other people are pushing you up
[01:19] <PyChild> desertc, u welcome
[01:19] <ThipThip> OK, here comes another seemingly dumb one:  Nautilus won't let me resize to less than 200px wide.  None of the gconf settings seem to reference this.  Is there a way?
[01:19] <mooglinux_> GreyWolfe: well im afraid i have to be going sorry i cant help you more. anything to do with grub will have lots of forum posts on ubuntuforums, if you havent looked there i would try that
[01:19] <rhino7> is there another tool than gparted?
[01:19] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: I'm not trying to argue with you. Just help you.
[01:20] <syntaxerror55> !info fdisk | rhino7
[01:20] <GreyWolfe> PyChild, mooglinux_: I thin I may have fond the solution, it looks like the menu.lst file is pointing to the wrong HD
[01:20] <ubotu> rhino7: Package fdisk does not exist in gutsy
[01:20] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, the livecd gives you access to the harddrive?
[01:20] <syntaxerror55> hmm
[01:20] <soundray> desertc: won't it open with file-roller?
[01:20] <desertc> PyChild: hmm - not found either.  maybe I will try another repo source.
[01:20] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Yup, have to run nautilus as the superuser
 you better
[01:20] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: type 'man fdisk' into a terminal
[01:20] <RequinB5> syntax error - trying to get fdisk?
[01:20] <PyChild> desertc, look in the restricted repo
[01:20] <bad_cables> my wireless just did it again, it sais... download rate "unknown"
[01:20] <PyChild> desertc, actually enable all the repos
[01:20] <bad_cables> why is 7.10 wireless failing???
[01:21] <desertc> PyChild: all repos enabled... I had set a non-default download source though  (mtu.edu)
[01:21] <soundray> bad_cables: rt chipset?
[01:21] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: I'm not required to stay here and help you. Comments like "you better" are just making me more annoyed then wanting to help.
[01:21] <viator> when i boot the spalsh screen doesnt show up i see NOTHING and then it goes into gdm fine and i log in
[01:21] <viator> any idea how to fix that
[01:21] <PyChild> desertc, still no cake?
[01:21] <RequinB5> sytnaxerror55 rhino7 - I'd suggest downloading a knoppix 5.2 iso and burning it - fdisk is on there and you can choose not to have GUI in a pinch - good all around backup cd
[01:21] <desertc> pychild - updating...
 i have fdisk in ubuntu
[01:22] <darth> #mplayer
[01:22] <soundray> viator: go through /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete "splash" wherever you find it.
[01:22] <RequinB5> rhino7 - then use that -.-
[01:22] <viator> delete splash?
[01:22] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Any ideas for a fix?
[01:22] <syntaxerror55> RequinB5: I already told him to look at the man page for fdisk to learn how to use it
[01:22] <rhino7> RequinB5> is there gui interface or just texts?
[01:22] <bod_> Hey guys, ive got 2 Hd's in my machine, but the non booted one shows up on the desktop, i assume so that i can quickly access its files,. how do i make it NOT show up on the desktop but still hav it mounted?
[01:22] <syntaxerror55> it comes by default
[01:22] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, yes i had that problem once
[01:22] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: It's CLI
[01:22] <bad_cables> soundray: is is the linksys wmpA55 i think... the
[01:22] <RequinB5> rhino7 - just text, but look at the manual
[01:23] <desertc> PyChild, tonyyarusso: yes, the download source did not have the packages.  I switched to the US Primary and they appeared
[01:23] <PyChild> grekkos, do this, first
[01:23] <RequinB5> its pretty straight forward rhino7, just did it last night
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> desertc: ah
[01:23] <grekkos> Hi PyChild
[01:23] <desertc> PyChild, tonyyarusso: I guess I am all set!  :)
[01:23] <grekkos> lol
[01:23] <bad_cables> soundray: let me lspci\
[01:23] <PyChild> desertc, way to go
[01:23] <PyChild> grekkos, hi
[01:23] <rhino7> RequinB5> i might mass up things
[01:23] <grekkos> PyChild: false alarm i guess :)
[01:24] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, sorry as i was saiyng, do this please
[01:24] <bad_cables> soundray: RT2561
[01:24] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: You might mess things up in GParted too.
[01:24] <PyChild> GreyWolfe,  first lets find out the root devise
[01:24] <RequinB5> rhino7 - there is always that possibility when formatting an HDD ...
[01:24] <PyChild> could be /dev/hda0, /dev/hdb2 etcetera
[01:24] <soundray> bad_cables: those devices are a major pain. Best thing you can do is replace it with an Intel 2200BG for $10
[01:24] <syntaxerror55> RequinB5: why do people think GUIs make it impossible to mess up?
[01:24] <viator> where it says quiet splash
[01:24] <viator> should it say somthing else
[01:25] <RequinB5> syntaxerror55: maybe the same thinking that made windows always made you press 'ok' before a program or desktop crashed
[01:25] <soundray> viator: it should only say "quiet" (although you could delete that as well to see more boot messages)
[01:25] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, please "less /etc/fstab"
[01:26] <rhino7> syntaxerror55> RequinB5> why wouldn't gparted work and keep on searching for hd? i am trying to install another OS here and stubborn ubuntu. it sucks. i don't have all night
[01:26] <GreyWolfe> PyChild, In a terminal?
[01:26] <theunixgeek> How do I make my own window border theme?
[01:26] <bkar> is compiz available on a liveCD? how to enable it? I just got hold of an e-machine that supposedly have a 3-D graphics
[01:26] <damaltor> hello everybody...
[01:26] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, ofcourse
[01:26] <mentula> Hello, can anyone help me with some problems I have having?
[01:26] <syntaxerror55> rhino7: we aren't GParted experts. I suggested using the gParted LiveCD, but you kept persisting about using other tools.
[01:26] <bod_> !anyone | mentula
[01:26] <ubotu> mentula: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:26] <RequinB5> rhino7 - i wouldn't know exactly why, but i got the same problem as you 2 days ago and used fdisk to fix it...
[01:26] <damaltor> is there a channel ore maybe somebody here who can help me with wine sound problems?
[01:26] <GreyWolfe> PyChild, Alright, now what?
[01:26] <bod_> mentula, whats up?
[01:26] <damaltor> !wine
[01:26] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:26] <bkar> !compiz
[01:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:27] <tim_> hi
[01:27] <tim_> how are u?
[01:27] <tim_> any one here?
[01:27] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, let's see one of these devices point to '/'
[01:27] <mentula> I am using, wine but when I try to install some files, I always get an error.
[01:27] <nemilar> there are 1195 people here, tim_
[01:27] <rhino7> RequinB5> how woul di know how many mb = gb etc?
[01:27] <damaltor> !wine
[01:27] <syntaxerror55> tim_: there's 1165 people here.
[01:27] <bod_> damaltor, #wine
[01:27] <RequinB5> tim_ no, messages just appear by themselves :P
[01:27] <damaltor> bod_: thx
[01:27] <syntaxerror55> RequinB5: lol
[01:27] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, usually the first one
[01:27] <mentula> I am using, wine but when I try to install some files, I always get an error.
[01:27] <bod_> damaltor, also look here for channels
[01:27] <bod_> !channels | damaltor
[01:27] <ubotu> damaltor: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[01:27] <tim_> so what are u talking about guys ?? u all are having problems with ubuntu and asking how to solve em?
[01:27] <damaltor> kk
[01:28] <RequinB5> rhino7 - it will give you a few different units such as blocks/cylinders.  best thing to do is look at the manual
[01:28] <nemilar> tim_: some of us are asking, some of us are helping
[01:28] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: I have no idea what this is telling me
[01:28] <th0r> syntaxerror55 RequinB he wants you guys to do it for him
[01:28] <bod_> tim_, thats wot this place is for   ;)
[01:28] <syntaxerror55> tim_: Some are just idling, some have questions, some are helping.
[01:28] <mentula> I am using, wine but when I try to install some files, I always get an error.
[01:28] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, patience
[01:28] <bad_cables> i want to know why my wireless keeps going out in ubuntu
[01:28] <bad_cables> how can i update?
[01:28] <bad_cables> wtf
[01:28] <bad_cables> ={
 how can i end the log for fdisk?
[01:28] <tim_> So what is the ratio to these who are asking to these who are helping about 1asking and 10 helping ?
[01:28] <theunixgeek> How do I make my close button be red and the minimize button blue without writing a completely new theme? (GNOME, GTK, etc)
[01:28] <syntaxerror55> th0r: ah, well, I'd only risk that if I was at his machine to fix things if they go wrong. He's going to have to man fdisk himself.
[01:28] <bod_> mentula, best to go here #wine
[01:29] <ThipThip> Does anybody know if it is possible to resize a nautilus window to less than 200x200?
[01:29] <soundray> bad_cables: the driver for rt61 devices are poor (the Windows ones are just as bad, btw). Get a different device.
[01:29] <th0r> syntaxerror55 :)
[01:29] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, im no profesional either, look for a record with a lone "/"
[01:29] <mentula> ok thanks
 or the help file
[01:29] <benanz1> I run my SSH daemon on port 9998 instead of 22 -- when I connect I do: "ssh -p 9998 user@host" -- how do I use scp with this?  "scp -P 9998 FILE user@host:DIR" doesn't work
[01:29] <geokeratz> tim_>  no, 10 asking / 1 helping
[01:29] <bod_> np
[01:29] <bod_> geokeratz, thats always the case,.,.;)
[01:29] <RequinB5> rhino7 - it should say iirc
[01:29] <bad_cables> soundray... thanks!
[01:29] <geokeratz> bod_>  lol
[01:29] <RequinB5> rhino7 - what is on your screen
[01:29] <soundray> tim_: your questions are offtopic. Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:30] <wassa> hello.. every time I try and open/copy a files larger than a 1mb or so from an SMB location, I get a transfer error.. the connection appears to be 98% quality however
[01:30] <nemilar> benanz1: I'm pretty sure that's the correct format
[01:30] <th0r> benanz1 try ip:9998
[01:30] <smotez>  I need to buy 802.11g PC card that supports rfmon. Any suggestions on vendor/type of the card? i've been googling for an hour now...
Linux  needs  at  least one partition, namely for its root file system.
[01:30] <rhino7>        It can use swap files and/or swap partitions, but the latter  are  more
[01:30] <bod_> wassa, pastebin your error
[01:30] <smotez>  I need to buy 802.11g PC card that supports rfmon. Any suggestions on vendor/type of the card? i've been googling for an hour now...
[01:30] <bod_> !pastebin | wassa
[01:30] <ubotu> wassa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, look i'm trying to find out here is your /boot
[01:30] <th0r> benanz1 on second thought...it is an uppercase -P 9998 that you need
[01:30] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, in other words your boot 'device'
[01:31] <wassa> bod_ paste what exactly？the error?
[01:31] <bad_cables> well that makes me feel alot better soundray... thanks a million
 can you tell me how to create unpartitioned space of about 10 gb?
[01:31] <benanz1> th0r: yes that fixed it
[01:31] <RequinB5> rhino7 - you are at the manual
[01:31] <benanz1> thanks
[01:31] <bod_> wassa, yep the error,. its difficult for us to fix something if we dont no whats broken,.,.;)
[01:31] <bmk789> every time i try to burn and verify a DVD, I get a "no tracks to verify found" after burning the DVD, what does this mean?
[01:31] <nemilar> rhino7: you're asking that?
[01:31] <rhino7> RequinB5> if prss enter it goes to next line
[01:31] <PyChild> anyway I was here for a question myself, I have troubles starting gnome
 what?
[01:32] <tim_> How do I acces Linux file system from Windows????
 wot?*
[01:32] <RequinB5> rhino7 - fdisk should have a few sample prompts for you
[01:32] <nemilar> rhino7: you're asking how to create partition?
[01:32] <bod_> PyChild, what sort of problems?
[01:32] <PyChild> tim_, from the same computer?
[01:32] <tim_> yes
[01:32] <soundray> tim_: try ext2fsd
[01:32] <RequinB5> he wants to get another partition to install another OS
 is a confusing format
[01:32] <rhino7> nemilar> duh
[01:32] <nemilar> rhino7: try gparted
[01:32] <rhino7> nemilar> OMG
[01:32] <RequinB5> nemilar - gparted is lagging for him
[01:32] <geokeratz> tim_>  google it and you will find many ways
[01:33] <PyChild> bod_ it doesn't start right, even in failsafe mode the desktop, the panel nautilus nothings starts up
[01:33] <rhino7> nemilar> i tried that it keeps on searching for HD
[01:33] <nano__> hello world!
[01:33] <PyChild> bod_ the only thing that starts up is tilda
[01:33] <nemilar> rhino7: from liveCD ?
[01:33] <geokeratz> nano__>  hi
[01:33] <bascule> !hi nano
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi nano - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <bod_> PyChild,  if you have acces to a terminal, try reinstalling nautilus
[01:33] <PyChild> bod_, tilda is like xterm
[01:33] <nano__> i hate sundays
[01:33] <nano__> :(
[01:33] <bascule> hello nano
[01:33] <bod_> PyChild, dunno what xterm is either,.,.;)
[01:33] <Optimus55> sundays are nice
[01:34] <rhino7> nemilar> no live cd, how would live cd be any different? beside i got no cd left. i got it from synaptic or something retard search area
[01:34] <rhino7> i got internet
[01:34] <PyChild> bod_, like gnome-terminal, a terminal
[01:34]  * bascule goes to a late night store
[01:34] <benanz1> I am really interested in securing my SSH daemon since it's the only port I want to have open on my router.  I run it on 9998 instead of 22 and have enabled Pubkey auth and disable passwords -- is there anything else I should be concerned about?
[01:34] <nano__> i don't think i have ever received so many greetings in this chat room before
[01:34] <nano__> i hope all of u are doing wel
[01:34] <nano__> *well
[01:34] <th0r> benanz1 since I moved ssh off 22 I have seen NO illegit access attempts
[01:34] <wassa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53828/
[01:34] <bod_> PyChild, if you press alt+f2 you should get a dialog box xome up, and you can type a command in there and select the box that says run in terminal
[01:35] <nemilar> benanz1: just have strong passwords, you'll be fine
[01:35] <bascule> benanz1: fail2ban or banhost is worth looking into, auto bans ip for 5 failed login attempts
[01:35] <nemilar> most of the brute-force attacks against SSH come from botnets that just search for open port 22's
[01:35] <th0r> benanz1 then look at sshfs...it will allow you to map a folder via the ssh port
[01:35] <bascule> sure
[01:35] <PyChild> bod_ alt+f2 doesn't work, if it wasn't for tilda i couldn't do a thing!!
[01:35] <nano__> Does anybody know wether gdm starts X or is it X that needs to be started for gdm to work?
[01:35] <nowald> can anyone help with a shoutdown problem ?
[01:35] <xtknight> when i type gdesklets, it can't connect to the daemon.  any ideas?
[01:36] <nemilar> benanz1: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/sshfshowto.php <-- sshfs tutorial if you are interested
[01:36] <benanz1> th0r: I have been using gnome-vfs to mount over ssh, is that the same thing?
[01:36] <PyChild> bod_, alt-f2 is provided by gnome-panel isn't it?
[01:36] <wassa> any idea why I　would be getting timeout errors when copying a file from smb to local
[01:36] <th0r> benanz1 not sure...I don't use gnome
[01:36] <benanz1> Oh OK
[01:36] <bod_> PyChild, do you have the GDM login screen? i seem to remember there being a way to switch to command line from there
[01:36] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Sorry about that, washing machine started going nuts, but I see the one you are talking about
[01:36] <adub> say if i wanted to change my splash screen where would i change that theme
[01:36] <rhino7> HELLO? anytone want to "VOLUNTEER" TO HELP ME?
[01:36] <nemilar> wassa: are you dropping any packets between the two?
[01:36] <rhino7> anyne*
[01:36] <rhino7> anyone*
[01:36] <nemilar> rhino7: you're not paying, so it's all volunteer, no quotes
[01:36] <ixian_> hi, i've been trying to apply this Load_Cycle_Count fix here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3675960&postcount=26 ) but when I reboot my hdd starts clicking again. The hdparm settings don't get applied automaticlaly, i have to do it manually... anyone know why? i have copied the file everywhere it says to.
[01:37] <bod_> !anyone | rhino7
[01:37] <ubotu> rhino7: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:37] <PyChild> bod_ i HAVE shell access, i even started xchat from my shell, that's not my problem
[01:37] <wassa> i don't think so.. how would I know?
[01:37] <PyChild> bod_ wait a min
[01:37] <RequinB5> rhino7 - calm down, we've already told you what program you need to use
[01:37] <soundray> rhino7: I saw several people helping you. Talking like that to the channel makes you look ungrateful
[01:37] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, so where is it?
[01:37] <bod_> PyChild, in the shell,. type     sudo apt-get reinstall nautilus
[01:37] <PyChild> must be in /dev
[01:37] <nemilar> wassa: ping from one to the other
[01:37] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[01:38] <PyChild> bod_, i'll keep it in mind, but i'm almost sure its something else thanks
[01:38] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: That what I am looking for?
[01:38] <PyChild> that thing actually
[01:38] <tritium> PyChild: right, likely no need to reinstall nautilus
[01:38] <bod_> PyChild, are you using compiz, try disabling it
 what is the consequence of being ungrateful?and i am wasting electricity and time by being here
[01:38] <PyChild> bod_, tribaldata no compiz
[01:38] <wassa> Nemilar.. there is a ping app isn't there?
[01:38] <nano__> th0r: i don't know if you remember me, but I remember having a conversation with you about dual-boot vista and faulty conexant sound driver for vista
[01:38] <nemilar> wassa: yeah, in terminal, just 'ping ip_address'
[01:39] <soundray> rhino7: I, for one, will be less inclined to try and answer your question
[01:39] <th0r> nano__ yup;;I remember
[01:39] <nano__> th0r: so did you get a chance to check it ou?
[01:39] <nano__> *out
[01:39] <PyChild> bod_, tritium what really surprises me is that when i type gnome-panel things happens, not even a segfault message or something
[01:39] <nemilar> wassa: ping your windows machine...let it run for a minute or so, and then hit control+C, and it will output the statistics.  if there's any packet loss, or if the average time is really high, that could be the source of your problems
[01:39] <th0r> nano__ not really...I haven't been into windows in about two months....trying to avoid it <smile>
[01:39] <PyChild> bod_ tritium i mean nothing
[01:39] <bod_> PyChild, im stumped then m8,. sorry,. i can only assume that its nautilus or GNOME itself, but i dont no if you can reinstall GNOME
[01:39] <nano__> th0r: :)
[01:39] <wassa> how many hops will it do? or should i cancel it
[01:39] <RequinB5> I'm trying to get some restricted devices installed on my fresh (no internet yet) gutsy box, but the restricted device manager isn't helping... one says can't unmount the CD-ROM (which is mounted) the other says the package is not in the software source
[01:39] <PyChild> bod_, thanks
[01:39] <wassa> ok
 why are you trying to control me? i can quote or not up to me. are you illiterate? what do you want from me?
[01:40] <bod_> PyChild, thats because the only thing that is broken is your graphical interface,. the hard coding is still working
[01:40] <th0r> nano__ I do have a note in my 'help.files' folder so the next time I go into windows I will know how to change the drivers
[01:40] <tritium> PyChild: when did this start?
[01:40] <PyChild> tritium, today
[01:40] <tritium> PyChild: after what events?
[01:40] <nemilar> wassa: let it send a bunch of packets, so you get a good...uh..you know, statistics, and all that.
[01:40] <nano__> th0r: i fixed all of my sound problem by recompiling alsa from scratch
[01:40] <nemilar> rhino7: you're being very rude
[01:40] <ixian_> hi, i've been trying to apply this Load_Cycle_Count fix here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3675960&postcount=26 ) but when I reboot my hdd starts clicking again. The hdparm settings don't get applied automaticlaly, i have to do it manually... anyone know why? i have copied the file everywhere it says to.
[01:40] <PyChild> tritium, heavy messing with apache2
[01:40] <th0r> nemilar yeah...leave him alone or else <smile>
[01:40] <wassa> lol
[01:40] <bod_> wassa,    ping -c 5 will do 5 hops
[01:40] <tritium> PyChild: that should not affect it in any way.
[01:40] <nemilar> th0r: yeah he's goin on ignore
[01:40] <PyChild> tritium, heavy messing with apache2 AND then much later rebooting
[01:41] <tritium> PyChild: did you edit any of the wrong files?
[01:41] <nano__> th0r: although now my when my computer boots it does so into console, i don't have gui unless i run startx
[01:41] <nemilar> wassa: is there any packet loss?
[01:41] <th0r> nano__ I tried that trick also...but it didn't help
[01:41] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0, not sure if this is what we are after though.
[01:41] <robdig> wassa: are you sharing from vista? if so, I found this in the forums, may be of some help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586587
[01:41] <wassa> 101 packets.. 0% loss
[01:41] <bod_> wassa, ur connection is fine,.,.hhhmmm
[01:41] <nemilar> wassa: that rules out network issues then
[01:41] <wassa> yeah
[01:41] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, yes but i have no idea what to do with unionfs i only know IDE harddrives and can try to work with satas but unionfs? im lost -_-
[01:41] <tinman> How do I get manpages for C installed? I tried apt-cache search c "man pages"
[01:41] <nemilar> wassa: does it transfer data at all, or no?
 my name is rhino7. see what happens when you latch onto petty things? you wasted the mood and work mood
[01:41] <bod_> wassa, can you use/play the file from where it is   eg. is the file corrupt?
[01:42] <th0r> nano__ in suse that would be an easy fix...but I don't know how to fix it in ubuntu. In suse run level 3 is command line, run level 5 is X. But in ubuntu all run levels should take you to X
[01:42] <rhino7> stop changing the subject i need to make gparted work
[01:42] <wassa> its been doing in any file larger than a few hundred k
[01:42] <RequinB5> I'm trying to get some restricted devices installed on my fresh (no internet yet) gutsy box, but the restricted device manager isn't helping... one says can't unmount the CD-ROM (which is unmounted) the other says the package is not in the software source.  I can type the exact errors if needed.
[01:42] <tritium> tinman: install the manpages-dev package
[01:42] <nemilar> tinman: doc packages usually have the extension -doc
[01:42] <wassa> files aren't corrupt.
[01:42] <nano__> th0r: in ubuntu init file does not exist, instead there is runlevel which is set up in /etc/events
[01:42] <PyChild> tritium, i don't think i edited ay wrong file, but there is a weird file in my home
[01:42] <tinman> okey, -doc or manpages-dev?
[01:42] <nano__> th0r : you don't use ubunut?
[01:42] <tritium> PyChild: which is?
[01:42] <nano__> *ubunutu?
[01:42] <wassa> my wife was trying to work on a work doc.. and it would only load the first 2 pages of a 10 page doc.
[01:42] <tritium> tinman: manpages-dev
[01:43] <tinman> k, thanks
[01:43] <bod_> wassa, women! *tut* *tut*
[01:43] <wassa> I tried copying a large .jpg file and only got halp
[01:43] <th0r> nano__ I run ubuntu on my web/file server....suse on my laptop
[01:43] <wassa> half
[01:43] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: After a little looking around, it seems like that is giving the data for the LiveCD, now what is actually installed
[01:43] <PyChild> tritium, ~/.gksudo.lock what is that thing?
[01:43] <nemilar> wassa: what's the windows os? xp?
[01:43] <th0r> nano__ trying to keep 'current' on both as they are the two major architectures in linux
[01:43] <wassa> same with an avi or mp3.. the files transfer bot only about 20%
[01:43] <wassa> vista
[01:43] <tritium> PyChild: it's a lock file for gksudo.  You were trying to run a graphical admin app of some sort.
[01:43] <bod_> wassa, is this a new problem or have you always had it?
[01:43] <wassa> but same thing on another xp machine too
[01:43] <rhino7> gparted anyone?
[01:44] <wassa> nope
[01:44] <bod_> !gparted | rhino7
[01:44] <ubotu> rhino7: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[01:44] <sapperjanko> hey all, got a small prob, i did the Tutorial on  HOWTO: Setup an Apache Web Server For Free ($0), followed everything, i can connect to the webpages usin http://ubuntu, but when i get a friend to try and connect in using http://sapper.mine.nu, the connection times out.. What could i be doing wrong?? I also put a post in the forum if u need more details
[01:44] <PyChild> tritium, not that i remember but it could be
[01:44] <wassa> sorry.. I only got ubuntu a few days ago. new user
[01:44] <nemilar> wassa: you had the same problem on XP, and also on Vista?  Same computer or different?
[01:44] <tritium> PyChild: that's what it's indicative of.
[01:44] <viator> i installed flash plugin non free it says its installed but flash content wont load and it says install missing plugins
[01:44] <rhino7> bod_> do i need a cd or dvd to is install the live cd?
[01:44] <PyChild> seems so, is it safe to delete/rename?
[01:45] <tritium> rhino7: CD is sufficient.
[01:45] <wassa> i dont have any problem moving/reading files between ms to ms machine.. but i can't get any full files from ms to linux
[01:45] <tritium> PyChild: yes
[01:45] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, you are right sorry
[01:45] <nemilar> wassa: hmm
[01:45] <bod_> rhino7, you can install the live cd from a cd/dvd/usbstick/floppy (if you have enough
[01:45] <PyChild> grekkos, wrong fstab
[01:45] <wassa> odd eh?
[01:45] <bod_> nemilar,  im stumped too      ;(
[01:45] <PyChild> grekkos, SORRY man false alarm
[01:45] <nemilar> wassa: yeah, I'm pretty stumped
[01:45] <grekkos> PyChild: lol
[01:45] <wassa> the only thing i installed was scim bridge and anthy for asian language support
[01:45] <nemilar> wassa: I'm sure if you google it for long enough, you'll probably find an answer
[01:46] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, let us try to find the real device
[01:46] <wassa> im sure i will too... that doesnt mean i will know how to fix it :)
[01:46] <nemilar> wassa: maybe post on www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:46] <bod_> wassa, what is scim bridge?
[01:46] <PyChild> gray in nautilus, can you see your main drive?
[01:46] <ThipThip> Is there a way with compiz or otherwise in gnome to "cut off" part of a window?
[01:46] <NemesisD> hi all, through some sort of screw up with rsync and the --delete flag I have deleted my evolution folder a few minutes ago, is there ANY way to get my inbox/memos/tasks back?
[01:46] <wassa> scim if for asian language support. my wife writes her exams in Japanese
[01:46] <wassa> is = if
[01:46] <rhino7> bod_> i've got some good black dvds rws but it's not reading do you know if i should return them to the store? is it driver problem?
[01:46] <RequinB5> !internet
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <rhino7> i've got some good black dvds rws but it's not reading do you know if i should return them to the store? is it driver problem?
[01:46] <robdig> wassa: nemilar are you sharing from vista? if so, I found this in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586587
[01:46] <tritium> !botabuse | RequinB5
[01:46] <ubotu> RequinB5: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[01:47] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, i'm going to reboot for and be generally busy for a wait
[01:47] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, i'll come back later
[01:47] <viator> anyone have any ideas its telling me to install missing plugins in firefox
[01:47] <bod_> rhino7, its a bit off-topic, but if you have purchased an item that does not do as it is intended to do then you have every right to return the to the store
[01:47] <viator> but flashplugin non free
[01:47] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Alright, I am going to try re-installing in the mean time
[01:47] <viator> is
[01:47] <viator> installed
[01:47] <dreamnid> viator: what plugin
[01:47] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, try to find where on /dev is your maindrive, the once that boots
[01:47] <GreyWolfe> PyChild: Thanks for your help
[01:47] <dreamnid> viator: are you running 64 bit?
[01:48] <viator> no
[01:48] <PyChild> GreyWolfe, as you wish, but there should be a way to get that OS working
[01:48] <th0r> nano__ you still there? Just a thought...check /etc/X11/default-display-manager and see if you are starting the correct display manager (gdm for gnome, kdm for kde)
[01:48] <rhino7> bod_ would they give me dirty looks and think bad of me?
[01:48] <bod_> !flash | viator   you want the last link and the package in blue text
[01:48] <ubotu> viator   you want the last link and the package in blue text: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:48] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:48] <sapperjanko> does anyone have any idea what i could b doing wrong with me apache and y i cant connect from the outside would... i made a post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632841&page=2
[01:48] <protcront> how to mount an iso file ?
 deamon toolz
[01:49] <bod_> rhino7, no you keep all of your rights when returning an item, if they do then you can submit a formal complaint with the manager of the shop
[01:49] <Flannel> !iso | protcront
[01:49] <ubotu> protcront: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:49] <dreamnid> mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso mountpoint
[01:49] <rhino7> bod_ but i broke the package and cracked the cd case and it's only $5
[01:50] <rhino7> bod_ it's a smaller superstore called zellers
[01:50] <robdig> sapperjanko: have you opened up and forwarded the port on your router?
[01:50] <NemesisD> anybody?
[01:50] <bod_> rhino7, then they will not give you your money back, they will say that you have mistreated the product ,. now please this is off-topic, only talk about ubuntu related things in this channel,. for general chit chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <ThipThip> Is there a way to hide the menubar in nautilus?  Several people are asking this question in the forums, no answer so far.
[01:51] <tim_> How do u mount Secure Rom protced Games ???? and make em work???
[01:51] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[01:51] <wassa> robdig. I am having that exact issue. just reading more.. thanks for finding that.
[01:51] <dreamnid> Nemesis: I think you're out of luck
[01:51] <rhino7> bod_ fuck
[01:51] <bod_> ThipThip, i suppose if you found the code you could remove the bar,. or just colurise it and make it completely seethorugh
[01:51] <bod_> !language | rhino7
[01:51] <sapperjanko> robdig: yea i opened up port 80 on tcp... do i also need to have it as UDP?
[01:51] <ubotu> rhino7: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:51] <robdig> wassa: good luck
[01:51] <tritium> rhino7: watch it
[01:52] <nemilar> ThipThip: there is
[01:52] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[01:52] <robdig> sapperjanko: no, but you need to forward the port to your computer too
[01:52] <nemilar> ThipThip: you can disable "always open in browser windows"
[01:52] <nemilar> ThipThip: personally, I hate that mode, but some might prefer it
[01:52] <rhino7> thank you please XD. what is '|' and how to do that? please
[01:52] <ThipThip> nemilar:  I'll check it out.
[01:52] <bod_> !ot | rhino7
[01:52] <ubotu> rhino7: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:53] <bod_> rhino7,  the pipe is located next to the z key on an english keyboard
[01:53] <tritium> rhino7: no more foul language, okay?
[01:53] <ThipThip> nemilar:  disabling "always open in browser windows" doesn't seem to affect the menubar
[01:53] <nemilar> ThipThip: close/open a new nautlus window
[01:53] <rhino7> tritum ok but i am not some kid
[01:54] <bod_> !coc | rhino7
[01:54] <ubotu> rhino7: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:54] <tritium> rhino7: we keep this channel family-friendly
[01:54] <sapperjanko> robdig: i went into the Virtual Server of me Billion ADSL Router... told it 2 use port range 80 on tcp to 192.168.1.250 (that is also set as static on ubuntu)
[01:54] <tritium> It doesn't matter if you're a kid or not, rhino7.
[01:54] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you sure your ISP doesn't block port 80?
[01:55] <rawb> if i am compiling an apache module from source thats not available as a package, should I specify --prefix=/usr/local when running ./configure? to keep it seperate from the base system
[01:55] <nano__> if i don't have xlogin in when i start my computer , but startx works from the console, does this mean that gdm is broken
[01:55] <Shinma> Could someone have a look at my thread on the Ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4208367#post4208367) and maybe help me out? ;)
[01:55] <th0r> nano__ I just found a link about that.....
[01:55] <sapperjanko> nemilar: how do i know weather my isp (iinet.net.au) is blocking the port
[01:55] <rhino7> tritium does ubuntu give African special treats? is that why my gparted not working?
[01:55] <th0r> nano__ http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-53019.html
[01:55] <ThipThip> nemilar:  The menubar still appears - or perhaps I'm using the word menubar improperly:  I mean the "file, edit, view," etc bar.  This option does help, however, insofar as that it allows the window to be less than 200px wide, which is good for me at the moment.
[01:55] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you can try running it on another port
[01:56] <nano__> th0r: you are a lifesaver
[01:56] <nemilar> sapperjanko: are you running the server on the network you're connected to IRC on?  I'll see if your port 80 is open
[01:56] <th0r> nano__ I have added that info to my help.files folder <smile>
[01:56] <bod_> tritium,  how annoying was he,.,.,.;)
[01:56] <onats> sapperjanko, i think that if you're able to browse websites, then port 80 is unblocked?
[01:56] <sapperjanko> yea same network
[01:57] <nemilar> onats: some ISPs filter port 80, so you can't run a webserver on that port
[01:57] <nemilar> sapperjanko: port 80 is showing up filtered
[01:57] <woodsoul> was he drugged? (rhino7)
[01:57] <bod_> woodsoul, quite possibly
[01:57] <nemilar> sapperjanko: if your router is open on port 80, its likely your ISP is filtering it (very common)
[01:57] <nano__> th0r: the reason that i was asking is that when i log into my computer, i get console login , startx command works fine, but i don't have gui login
[01:57] <crush_groove> where do I find a list of programs that have been uninstalled by apt?
[01:57] <sapperjanko> what a pain in the @$$ then
[01:58] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you can set apache to run on some other port (I use 1337, but 8080 is another common one)
[01:58] <nemilar> sapperjanko: yeah, I know.  They'll probably open it up for you, for more money $$$
[01:58] <th0r> nano__ right...that url covers that...the guy wanted to disable X, but the explanation of how to start or stop it on that page is very good
[01:58] <th0r> nano__ and ubuntu specific!
[01:58] <th0r> nano__ check to see if you are calling for gdm to start on bootup
[01:59] <onats> how secure is SSH?
[01:59] <sapperjanko> nemilar: yea always the way... all bout the money.. i will set it all up to port 8080, also if im using dnsdyn can i make it so that if i goto http://sapper.mine.nu it will auto goto 8080 or will everyone just have 2 put the port in 2 view the page
[01:59] <th0r> onats ssh is as good as it gets
[01:59] <nano__> th0r: i don't know why the people at ubuntu decided to get rid of inittab
[01:59] <robdig> crush_groove: dpkg --get-selections
[01:59] <onats> thor, so it is secure?
[01:59] <bod_> hey guys,.,. when im booting my machine up, after grub ,. i get a "Vidoe mode not supported" message where the loading screen shjould be, but when it gets to the login screen everything works fine,. any thoguhts, its a minor annyance but i want it gone,.,.??
[01:59] <th0r> nano__ I used to wonder about those things...but it gave me headaches <smile>
[01:59] <tritium> nano__: that's a debian thing, not ubuntu-specific
[01:59] <crush_groove> robdig,  .,, thank you '
[01:59] <_daniel__> onats: you mean encryption wise ?
[02:00] <dreamnid> bod_: you have to set the vga mode in grub :-P
[02:00] <onats> so long as my pword isn't compromised?
[02:00] <_daniel__> as good as your key
[02:00] <NemesisD> does anyone know of a way to undelete text files on ext3?
[02:00] <nemilar> sapperjanko: unfortunately they'll have to put in the port (http://url:port)
[02:00] <onats> daniel, oh ok. then as long as i have a strong password, then i won't have anything to worry about?
[02:00] <_daniel__> well depends
[02:00] <_daniel__> there are several things
[02:00] <bod_> dreamnid, thankyou,. now would you mind telling me how to go about doing that?
[02:00] <NET||abuse> Guys.. i've an old buffalo wifi point (WBR2-G54S) and I can't seem to connect to it when i switch on WPA-AES encryption(there doesn't seem to be WPA2), so if i want to run this thing, it would seem i need to use WEP??
[02:00] <nemilar> sapperjanko: actually, now that I think about it, you could probably have a tinyurl redirect
[02:00] <_daniel__> like you configure your server wisely
[02:00] <_daniel__> etx
[02:01] <NET||abuse> seems to connect ok with WEP, but that's an awful stupid option
[02:01] <dreamnid> bod_: one sec
[02:01] <bod_> dreamnid, cheers
[02:01] <NET||abuse> should nm-applet work with old WPA-AES or is there an issue?
[02:01] <onats> daniel, ok
[02:01] <_daniel__> ssh is what everyone uses, so it can be preatty secure
[02:01] <sapperjanko> nemilar: and how would u set something like that up, any ideas on what i should have 2 go n google
[02:01] <nemilar> sapperjanko: which, the apache port/
[02:02] <dreamnid> bod_: what's your resolution?
[02:02] <nemilar> sapperjanko: or the tinyurl redirect?
[02:02] <bod_> Does anyone no if a Belkin F5D7050B  is compatible with ubuntu 7.10 amd64?
[02:02] <sapperjanko> tinyurl
[02:02] <nemilar> sapperjanko: just go to www.tinyurl.com
[02:02] <bod_> dreamnid,  1024 x 768
[02:02] <dreamnid> ... interesting
[02:02] <willy> hi all :)
[02:02] <sapperjanko> will do.... i will b back soon all, just gotta reset this damn router again
[02:03] <willy> !fonts
[02:03] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:03] <bod_> dreamnid,  while i installed ubuntu it was running in 600x800
[02:03] <usr13> !archive
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <wassa> well that didn't work out.
[02:03] <usr13> Is there an archive for this channel?
[02:03] <nemilar> sapperjanko: let me know how it works out for you
[02:03] <onats> is there anyway that IT admins can monitor what type of services i do on a specific port?
[02:03] <dreamnid> bod_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#head-07d4b7411f7da70e337287db9a86ea941038b8b3
[02:03] <dreamnid> bod_: Scroll all the way down to Permanent changes
[02:03] <nemilar> onats: nmap will give that info
[02:03] <bod_> dreamnid, cheers dude,. legend
[02:03] <_daniel__> onats yes
[02:04] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[02:04] <_daniel__> onats search for tor
[02:04]  * bod_ thinks dreamnid deserves a round of applause
[02:04] <onats> daniel, i have tor, at home, not here.:)
[02:04] <dreamnid> bod_: You need to add vga=792 to # kopt =
[02:04] <jsmit1> can i use the downloaded cd image to upgrade to 7.10? the update manager wont finich the upgrade
[02:04] <Jake__> whats the command to open things? gnome -open?
[02:04] <tritium> bod_: listen to dreamnid.  He has the answer.
[02:04] <nemilar> Jake__: open what kind of things?
[02:04] <sapperjanko> nemilar: before i do reset me router, i just rebooted the server, and i just noticed this when booting up...... apach2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. for ServerName
[02:04] <Jake__> pictures
[02:05] <whonicca> how would i go about using my pcs internal speaker for sound?
[02:05] <usr13> Jake__: gthumb filename.jpg
[02:05] <nemilar> sapperjanko: yeah that won't prevent it from working
[02:05] <bod_> dreamnid,  ok,. i dunno  what that means so il do some reading,. the bit you told me to look at is at the bottom,.,. is all the other stuff unneccesary?
[02:05] <dreamnid> Jake__: Yeah, I know there is a program that can open files based on the type, just don't remember off the otp of my head
[02:05] <sapperjanko> nemilar: is that becuase i just changed the port to 8080 in the ports.conf file before restarting the router
[02:05] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you can set it in the apache config, but it's just a warning, not an error
[02:05] <nemilar> sapperjanko: it's nothing to worry about
[02:05] <onats> daniel, but enlighten me, what can tor do to hide what i'm doing?
[02:05] <usr13> Jake__: But you should just be able to use the file manager.
[02:05] <dreamnid> bod_ : pretty much - it's some other options that you can set
[02:05] <sapperjanko> nemilar, ahh thats alright then
[02:05] <sapperjanko> brb
[02:05] <tritium> bod_: I can walk you through editing your /boot/grub/menu.lst, if needed
[02:05] <bod_> dreamnid, ta,. brb
[02:05] <dreamnid> bod_ : the one that should help is the vga option though
[02:06] <bod_> tritium,  thanks,. il have a read and get back to you if i have any problems,.thanks
[02:06] <Jake__> usr13 this is hard to follow. i sent you a message
[02:06] <dreamnid> bod_ : Although admittedly, I'm not sure why it isn't working for you by default
[02:06] <nemilar> onats: tor can hide your IP address...if you configure it as an exit node, it can also be an "it wasn't me!" excuse
[02:06] <nano__> th0r: im heading towards a quick reboot, ill talk u and everybody else later
[02:06] <_daniel__> onats it uses steganography + encryption to communicate, so that no one in between knows what you are saying
[02:06] <nano__> nite
[02:06] <bod_> tritium,  hows my english coming along?
[02:06] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[02:06] <usr13> Jake__:  nautilus
[02:06] <tritium> bod_: so-so ;)
[02:06] <_daniel__> they will only see what looks like a https session
[02:06] <Jake__> nautilus?
[02:06] <onats> nemiliar, lol
[02:06] <usr13> Jake__: What are you trying to do?
[02:06] <_daniel__> even if you are doing anything else
[02:06] <usr13> Jake__: View pictures?
[02:06] <Jake__> yeah
[02:07] <usr13> Jake__: Did  you save them to the hard drive?
[02:07] <bod_> tritium,  *laugh out loud* (no AIM) is nano a text editor,. can i use gedit instead?
[02:07] <viator> is there a H.264 decoder plugin in the repos?
[02:07] <Kronos> hola
[02:07] <usr13> Jake__: Or are they on media, such as CDROM or Flash Memory?
[02:07] <Jake__> before i was going into terminal and going to picture then typying gnome open and the filename
[02:07] <Jake__> but its not working anymore
[02:07] <nemilar> viator: yeah, there's encoders and decoders
[02:07] <Jake__> its on my hard drive
[02:07] <Pangz> good day
[02:07] <nemilar> viator: ffmpeg, for example
[02:07] <tritium> bod_: nano is a text editor, yes.
[02:08] <jsmit1> can anyone help with upgrading my distrobution?
[02:08] <regeya> viator: apparently as I can play h264, though I don't know... !restricted | viator
[02:08] <tritium> bod_: oh, and you can use gedit if you prefer.
[02:08] <viator> but i have ffmped in gstreamer
[02:08] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[02:08] <bod_> tritium,  cheers
[02:08] <regeya> !restricted | viator
[02:08] <dreamnid> Jake__: Try xdg-open
[02:08] <ubotu> viator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:08] <usr13> Jake__: Places --> Home Folder  etc..
[02:08] <tritium> bod_: keep in mind, to edit system files, you'll need to use sudo or gksudo, depending on your choice there.
[02:08] <rendero> hello, anybody knows how to take a screenshot to the compiz cube ? ksnapshot does not allow when i use ctrl alt button1 to see the cube, any ideas ?
[02:08] <Jake__> that works
[02:08] <Jake__> the xdg-open works
[02:09] <usr13> Jake__: Or just at the terminal:  gthumb filename.jpg
[02:09] <nemilar> rendero: in gnome, I can just hit the print-screen button and it'll work w/ the cube
[02:09] <nemilar> prolly same in KDE
[02:09] <bod_> tritium,  because i cant save into that file without permission yes?
[02:09] <dreamnid> Jake__: xdg-open is really a helper app that oopens the file in the user's preferred applicaiton
[02:09] <tritium> bod_: right, not if you don't have the proper permissions.
[02:09] <rendero> nemilar, it worked on gnome, not in kde i guess
[02:09] <Jake__> thanks man
[02:09] <bod_> tritium,  what is gksudo?
[02:10] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[02:10] <nemilar> rendero: you could try using the gnome screenshot program in KDE, then
[02:10] <tritium> bod_: a gui front-end to sudo
[02:10] <viator> ok i figured it out had to restart my plater
[02:10] <sapperjanko2> hmmm, my other user name didnt leave when i restarted the router
[02:10] <viator> after installing the codec
[02:10] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[02:10] <AdN[22]> buenas
[02:10] <rendero> nemilar, whats the name ?
[02:10] <nemilar> rendero: gnome-screenshot     no idea if it'll work though
[02:10] <bod_> tritium,  strange and unfamiliar ,. il stick with sudo thanks  ,.,.,.;)
[02:10] <AdN[22]> hola
[02:10] <tritium> bod_: then use nano
[02:10] <tritium> !es AdN[22]
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es adn[22] - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <jackfusio1> When I install ubuntu server and during the install at the last step when it ejects the cd I hit back to install the desktop in asks my to install the cd when the cd is all ready in the drive.  Why?
[02:10] <tritium> !es | AdN[22]
[02:11] <ubotu> AdN[22]: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:11] <usr13> rendero: Same as before. Hit Print Scrn button.
[02:11] <AdN[22]> [ubotu] no, entre xq si... XD
[02:11] <bod_> tritium, im using gedit,. never used nano before,
[02:11] <jsmit1> can i use the distro cd to upgrade to 7.10?
[02:11] <rendero> usr13, it does not work when it is the cube
[02:11] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: could you be please try http://sapper.mine.nu:8080 out and will we see how we go this time
[02:11] <dreamnid> jsmitl: I think you can
[02:11] <nano__> back
[02:12] <jsmit1> k
[02:12] <sparr_> what is the equivalent of xorg.conf in xfree86?
[02:12] <usr13> rendero: sleep 10; gnome-panel-screenshot
[02:12] <Aquahallic> I have a nfs share I'd like to create an icon on my desktop so I can execute it and mount the share when I need.... I opened a new document and put my mount command in and then made it executable... it seems as if when I try to mount something as my user it says only root can mount... how can I create this so I can mount it as my user???
[02:12] <nemilar> sapperjanko: no go...still showing up filtered
[02:12] <wassa> hmmm the file dropping must be something in vista because i just copied a 9 meg file from the xp box with no issues
[02:12] <AdN[22]> no hay nadie q hable castellano??
[02:12] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: LOL they filter that port also... GEEEEE
[02:12] <tritium> !es | AdN[22]
[02:13] <ubotu> AdN[22]: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:13] <usr13> rendero: (You'll have ten seconds to get it like you want.)
[02:13] <damaltor> since about two hours, sound in wine is lagging about a second. it sounds good (playing counter strike 1.6, worked perfectly whole day), but is about a second late. why can that be?
[02:13] <bod_> tritium,  i've gona and scared myself, could you walk me through adding that thing dreamnid told me to add please?
[02:13] <nemilar> sapperjanko: 8080 is typically used for proxies, so..
[02:13] <AdN[22]> [ubotu] i don´t need help XD
[02:13] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you can access it at localhost:8080 though right?
[02:13] <drambuie> Aquahallic, make it mount automatically in your fstab
[02:13] <bod_> tritium,  dont worry if you have to leave
[02:13] <AdN[22]> o como se escriba
[02:13] <sapperjanko2> yea no probs
[02:13] <dreamnid> AdN[22] ubotu is a bot :-P
[02:13] <nemilar> sapperjanko: I'll see if I can find an unfiltered port for you, I'm scanning now
[02:14] <Aquahallic> drambuie: I don't want it to mount up all the time though.. .this is a laptop and I go all over with it
[02:14] <nemilar> sapperjanko: just FYI, this is most likely against the TOS of your ISP ;)
[02:14] <AdN[22]> [dreamnid] jajaja ok
[02:14] <nano__> i installed all alsa packages from source, now im trying to install gdm from synaptics, but synaptics says that it also needs to install alsa-utils, but this version of alsa-utils is already installed and is a prior version.  What should I do?
[02:14] <bod_> dreamnid, any chance you could help me do that editiing please?
[02:14] <drambuie> Aquahallic, then you will have to mount it manually each time you use it
[02:14] <dreamnid> bod_ ah
[02:14] <jackfusio1>  When I install ubuntu server and during the install at the last step when it ejects the cd I hit back to install the desktop in asks my to install the cd when the cd is all ready in the drive.  Why?
[02:14] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: LOL yea well they shouldnt set up filtered ports now should they
[02:14] <dreamnid> bod_: Give me a sec : have to switch my laundry :-P
[02:15] <Aquahallic> so I can't allow my user to mount??
[02:15] <bod_> dreamnid,  the adding vga thing to some fie,.,. ive looked at the file and its scary
[02:15] <AdN[22]> somebody speak spanish??
[02:15] <AdN[22]> =P
[02:15] <regeya> !es
[02:15] <bod_> dreamnid, ok no worries
[02:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:15] <rendero> usr13, sleep trick worked fine ;) thanks nemilar too !
[02:15] <nemilar> !es | AdN[22]
[02:15] <ubotu> AdN[22]: please see above
[02:15] <nemilar> rendero: glad that worked for you
[02:15] <Pangz> anyone could help me in squid?
[02:15] <nemilar> Pangz: just ask the question, if someone knows the answer they'll help
[02:15] <bod_> !anyone | Pangz
[02:15] <ubotu> Pangz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:15] <tritium> AdN[22]: I've told you *repeatedly* to join #ubuntu-es
[02:15] <dreamnid> AdN[22] - People are trying to say that if you want to speak in spanish, you should join the #ubuntu-es
[02:15] <regeya> !asj
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asj - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <regeya> !ask
[02:15] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:15] <sapperjanko2> ubotu: me speak no spanish... talk in english :P
[02:16] <nano__> i installed all alsa packages from source, now im trying to install gdm from synaptics, but synaptics says that it also needs to install alsa-utils, but this version of alsa-utils is already installed and is a prior version.  What should I do?
[02:16] <regeya> sapperjanko2: WHY are you griping at the BOT?
[02:16] <nemilar> sapperjanko: I scanned 8080 through 9000, all filtered
[02:16] <Pangz> sorry for it.. im totally new here..
[02:16] <bod_> regeya, because its easier then typing it all by hand
[02:16] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: hmmm back to the drawing board then
[02:16] <AdN[22]> [dreamnid] si, ya se... i know... but here is more fun...
[02:16] <AdN[22]> =P
[02:16] <AdN[22]> o como sea
[02:17] <bod_> regaysorry wrong person
[02:17] <nemilar> sapperjanko: there's def. an open port somewhere, just gotta find it
[02:17] <regeya> :-P
[02:17] <bod_> regeya,  sorry wrong person
[02:17] <sapperjanko2> regeya: haha i got this msg from the bot tho... Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:17] <nemilar> sapperjanko: you can get a port listing for popular games and such, and try those out
[02:17] <bod_> Pangz, dont worry,. whats your problem friend?
[02:17] <jackfusio1> hi all
[02:17] <bod_> hi
[02:17] <regeya> sapperjanko2: have  a problem or just letting your latent xenophobia show?
[02:17] <jackfusio1> how are things going?
[02:17] <bod_> not bad
[02:17] <sapperjanko2> haha
[02:17] <bod_> u
[02:18] <regeya> dang...I'm Mr. Hostile today :->
[02:18] <nemilar> hahaha, port 31337 is registered as service "Elite"
[02:18] <jackfusio1> not to bad
[02:18] <bod_> regeya, lol
[02:18] <regeya> roffle
[02:18] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: well i do have port 27900 open for uTorrent
[02:18] <jackfusio1> Has anyone installed Ubuntu server before?
[02:18] <AdN[22]> IRcap don´t work whit linux?? =P
[02:18] <bod_> dreamnid, let me no when your back
[02:18] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: WTF
[02:18] <Pangz> bod_ i just install squid from terminal and the next step is how?
[02:19] <nemilar> sapperjanko: and that works appropriately?  try 27901 then, or something
[02:19] <Ice-DraVen> Hey :) Im having some problems can anyone help?
[02:19] <nemilar> !ask | Ice-DraVen
[02:19] <ubotu> Ice-DraVen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:19] <sapperjanko2> ok, back again soon all
[02:19] <regeya> maybe I should change my nick to MrFurious
[02:19] <bod_> Pangz,  if you mean "How do you install squid form the terminal" then like this : sudo apt-get install squid
[02:19] <Pangz> bod_ i have already done it
[02:19]  * regeya wonders if anyone gets that...then gets back to work...
[02:19] <Pangz> bod what is the next step?
[02:20] <bod_> Pangz, then just type : squid    in a terminal to run it
[02:20] <Evolution2> hey guys, I just got a screenlet but I don't know how to run it. it is the xbox gamertag screenlet
[02:20] <AdN[22]> IRcap don´t work whit linux?? =P
[02:20] <Pangz> bod do i need to log as root?
[02:20] <bod_> regeya, dont worry i understand your frustration,.,.;)
[02:21] <fr0w> is there anyway to re-run ubuntu's setup hardware detection?
[02:21] <bod_> Pangz, i doubt it,. but i dnt no what squid is,. so,.,.,.
[02:21] <Pangz> bod it says squid has no installation candidate
[02:21] <bod_> !squid
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <bod_> Pangz,  what is squid?
[02:21] <fr0w> the thing is: i have 2 different computers and i want both to have the same data, so i'd rather just replicate the hdd to another
[02:21] <nano__> i installed all alsa packages from source, now im trying to install gdm from synaptics, but synaptics says that it also needs to install alsa-utils, but this version of alsa-utils is already installed and is a prior version.  What should I do?
[02:21] <nemilar> bod_: it's a caching server
[02:21] <Pangz> squid cache proxy
[02:21] <fr0w> and plug it into another pc
[02:22] <fr0w> but this doesn't work
[02:22] <Ice-DraVen> im running kubuntu and experience 3issues, msn wont work (tried stock and gaim - getting a read error), 2 cant access cd drives / dvd drives on my machine, c) unable to access shared files on a network
[02:22] <bod_> nemilar,  thanks,. perhaps you could talk to him for me,. i no nothing!
[02:22] <bod_> Ice-DraVen, use aMSN for msn
[02:23] <nemilar> Pangz: what's the problem you're having with squid?
[02:23] <bod_> tritium, are you back?
[02:23] <tritium> bod_: briefly, yes.
[02:23] <jackfusio1> does any one no any thing about ubuntu server?
[02:23] <sapperjanko2> ok im back once again
[02:23] <danbhfive> !info squid | bod_
[02:23] <ubotu> bod_: squid (source: squid): Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[02:23] <nemilar> brb, Pangz  I'll be happy to try to help you when I get back
[02:23] <AdN[22]> IRcap don´t work whit linux?? respondan!!
[02:24] <Ice-DraVen> bod_ will the sudo apt-get install amsn work for that?
[02:24] <Pangz> thank you nemilar
[02:24] <bod_> tritium,  could you walk me through the file editing if you have enough time please
[02:24] <tritium> AdN[22]: calm down, and be patient
[02:24] <bod_> Ice-DraVen, sure will
[02:24] <tritium> bod_: are you editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:24] <bod_> tritium, yes
[02:24] <Ice-DraVen> great :)  any idea on the other two issues?
[02:24] <bod_> Ice-DraVen, no sorry
[02:25] <sapperjanko2> nemilar: ok lets try this again, i have set it now with port 27950 so try http://sapper.mine.nu:27950 see if me dumb isp didnt filter that port now
[02:25] <tritium> bod_: down past the line that says "## Start Default Options ##", there is a line for kernel options, kopt=...
[02:25] <usr13> What needs to be isntalled to get DVD playback working?
[02:26] <bod_> tritium, :# kopt=root=UUID=638f60e8-c9c9-4ce4-a49a-5f7a0b76551d ro     ?
[02:26] <sarthor> Hi. my ubuntu is working fine, but When i press alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2...., then my text mode is not looking as normal. the fonts are larger, and the screen is looking like too zoomed? how to fix it??
[02:26] <AdN[22]> 1191 users y nadie me respondio -.-
[02:26] <tritium> bod_: if you wish to specify a specific resolution, you'd specify vga=XYZ, e.g., vga=792
[02:26] <usr13> xvinfo says:   no adaptors present
[02:26] <tritium> bod_: yes, that one
[02:26] <im-a-n00b> hey all... has anyone been able to use smb4k to connect to a vista box?
[02:26] <tritium> bod_: actually, you'd list them down below on the "defoptions" line
[02:26] <bod_> tritium,  where abouts on that line would i type vga=792   ?
[02:27] <bod_> tritium,  oh
[02:27] <tritium> bod_: append it to the end of the defoptions line
[02:27] <im-a-n00b> i can connect to xp boxes fine.. but it keeps asking for authentication on the vista ne. i have disabled the firewall and used everyone as the group that has read/write access
[02:27] <jackfusio1> Is it better to install Ubuntu desktop and just setup what I can to get my server running
[02:27] <bod_> tritium, im kind off new to this about a month of linux,. what exactly do i need to do?
[02:27] <sapperjanko2> could someone please test http://sapper.mine.nu:27950
[02:27] <nano__> synaptics keeps telling me that one of the packages that i am trying to install has some missing dependancies, but actually, the dependancy software was previously installed via compilation, anyone know how to get around this?
[02:27] <tritium> bod_: after you've edited the file, and saved it correctly, run "sudo update-grub" to have those options take affect
[02:28] <tritium> bod_: just add that vga=792 business to the end of that line, with only one space between what's already there, and your new text
[02:28] <danbhfive> jackfusio1: better than what?  I guess if you are asking, then the answer is probably yes
[02:28] <bod_> tritium,  do you mean the line i said, or the defoptions line?
[02:28] <danbhfive> jackfusio1: it will work just the same I think
[02:28] <tritium> bod_: defoptions line
[02:29] <bod_> tritium, ok hang on
[02:29] <tritium> bod_: refer the the example in the file itself, in the line right above the one you'll edit
[02:30] <Ashfire908> is there any system for restoreing files sent to the trash folder?
[02:30] <jackfusio1> then installing ubuntu server, because no one can tell me any thing about ubuntu server. sorry if I am being rude.
[02:30] <dreamnid> Ashfire908: you just open the Trash window
[02:30] <dreamnid> Ashfire908: in the lower right corner of your screen
[02:31] <dreamnid> Ashfire908: just copy and paste the file back to where it be
[02:31] <Ashfire908> dreamnid, i'm not asking how to get to the trash folder. i'm not an idiot.
[02:31] <dreamnid> Ashfire908: ok, then what are you asking for?
[02:31] <bod_> tritium,  sorry but im not sure which line still,. could you please look at this pastebin and tell me how many lines down is the line im after :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53832/
[02:31] <Flannel> jesran: Ubuntu server is more or less the same as the desktop.  Just sans GUI by default.
[02:31] <tritium> Ashfire908: calm down.  He told you where to retreive file sent to the trash, as you asked about.
[02:31] <danbhfive> jackfusio1: like I said, you should install the desktop,  get used to ubuntu.  I think it will be clearer to you once you get to know the ubuntu packaging system
[02:31] <snadge> i've just followed a guide to install a linux 2.6.24 kernel on my ubuntu gutsy.. which worked fantastic :) but now I don't have my proprietry nvidia graphics.. im presuming installing the nvidia drivers from their website is not the best way to get it working.. can i rebuild the restricted drivers package?
[02:31] <Veenified> Anyone know how to play an enhanced dvd?
[02:31] <Ashfire908> dreamnid, if there was a "restore deleted file" like in windows.
[02:31] <tehk> Can I force a resolution using xrandr?
[02:31] <Veenified> !dvd
[02:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:32] <sapperjanko2> <- using server as it will be hiding in the dark
[02:32] <tritium> bod_: it's not shown in your paste.  It's further down.
[02:32] <willy> has anyone ever joined ubuntu to a windows domain here>
[02:32] <jesran> Flannel: huh?
[02:32] <dreamnid> Ashfire908: you mean one you delete the file from Trash?
[02:32] <bod_> Ashfire908, just pull the file out of trash folder onto desktop to restore it
[02:32] <sarthor> Hi. my ubuntu is working fine, but When i press alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2...., then my text mode is not looking as normal. the fonts are larger, and the screen is looking like too zoomed? how to fix it??
[02:32] <Flannel> jackfusio1: Ubuntu server is more or less the same as the desktop.  Just sans GUI by default.
[02:32] <Flannel> jesran: sorry
[02:32] <falconer> when I run aptitude search the output is truncated. Is there an easy way to have it not do that?
[02:32] <danbhfive> Ashfire908: it doesn't look like there is a feature like that.  I looked for that too, but I don't think ubuntu has it.  Its just another folder, you gota do it manually
[02:32] <tritium> Flannel: and still different kernel, yes?
[02:32] <brunoskrebs> hi, how do I put something to load with my user
[02:32]  * tritium things there is a -server kernel variety.
[02:32] <sapperjanko2> could someone please test http://sapper.mine.nu:27950
[02:33] <Flannel> tritium: Yeah, it installsthe -server kernel by default instead of -generic
[02:33] <jesran> cool... i just use desktop as my server and it is fine FWIW
[02:33] <bod_> tritium, i think i found it line 3? :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53833/
[02:33] <tritium> bod_: you got it!
[02:33] <onats> exit
[02:33] <Flannel> falconer: pipe it into less, aptitude search [whatever] | less
[02:33] <jackfusio1> I have been using ubuntu desktop for about 1 year now and ubuntu server has better support for raid then desktop.
[02:33] <brunoskrebs> there is a diferent terminal that I use called yakuake, and I want to load when I log in
[02:33] <falconer> Flannel, I did that
[02:33] <bascule> sapperjanko2: it just hangs
[02:33] <jesran> which file to run a command at user login?
[02:33] <bod_> tritium,  shall i edit the vga=791 or add another vga=793 to the end?
[02:34] <Ashfire908> am i the only one who noticed that gnome-pilot is a horrible program?
[02:34] <tritium> bod_: don't edit the example.  That won't do any good.  Add what you want to the defoptions line at the end.
[02:34] <sapperjanko2> bascule: that would b right, just bout every port i seem to try must be filtered
[02:34] <falconer> Flannel, I should say, the lines are cut off at the end.
[02:34] <Pangz> how to modify the screen resolution?
[02:34] <Pangz> i got only 800x600 at the max
[02:34] <robdig> brunoskrebs: system->preferences->sessions then the add button
[02:34] <Pangz> >:o
[02:34] <Flannel> falconer: Oh, odd.  I see.  Well, no idea.  Use apt-cache search instead
[02:34] <tritium> !resolution | Pangz
[02:34] <ubotu> Pangz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:35] <falconer> Flannel, ok. Good idea :)
[02:35] <bod_> tritium,  so it should look like this? :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53834/
[02:35] <jackfusio1>  When I install ubuntu server and during the install at the last step when it ejects the cd I hit back to install the desktop in asks my to install the cd when the cd is all ready in the drive.  Why?
[02:35] <snadge> how do i rebuild the linux-restricted-modules package for the custom kernel that i just built (using ubuntu method)
[02:35] <htns> LjL: cake boy!
[02:35] <brunoskrebs> robdig, thx but I will try to find how to do this in the command line
[02:35] <tritium> bod_: yes.  Now, run "sudo update-grub"
[02:36] <sapperjanko2> well guys, im gunna go have a break from this damn server... and a friend that lives local knows alot bout the server
[02:36] <Flannel> jackfusio1: Its looking for the alternate CD.  The server CD doesn't contain desktop packages
[02:36] <Flannel> jackfusio1: You could also just wait until after your install is complete, then install them from the internet.
[02:36] <danbhfive> jackfusio1: you can install the desktop after you reboot with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <bod_> tritium, :sudo: update: command not found
[02:37] <antaning> ragazzi vado a dormire
[02:37] <antaning> buonanotte
[02:37] <bod_> tritium, dw,. i understand
[02:37] <dreamnid> bod_ "sudo update-grub" ?
[02:37] <tritium> bod_: you need to type it exactly as I told you
[02:37] <robdig> !it | antaning
[02:37] <ubotu> antaning: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:38] <jackfusio1> but after install it says no partion present.
[02:38] <bod_> tritium, dreamnid, thanks for your help, im going to reboot and come back and tell you my results
[02:38] <dreamnid> good luck
[02:38] <dreamnid> :-)
[02:38] <bod_> ta
[02:38] <bod_> ty
[02:38] <jackfusio1> or it will not load at alll
[02:39] <zetheroo> I would like the Pictures, Music and Video folders to be shared between users so that I do not have to have copies of all my media on both users...... how is this possible?
[02:39] <dreamnid> zetheroo: you can either set the appropriate permissions or move the folders out of the home folder
[02:40] <Thugacation> LjL
[02:40] <Slurpee> in an ssh session, how can I do something similar ot alt+f1 or f2 or f3 to open additional sesions ?
[02:40] <zetheroo> dreamnid: but can both users use the same folder equally?
[02:40] <Flannel> Slurpee: use screen
[02:40] <insomniasx> rc.dishnuts.net
[02:40] <dreamnid> Slurpee: You may want to look at the screen command
[02:41] <insomniasx> blahh
[02:41] <Slurpee> man screen
[02:41] <Slurpee> No manual entry for screen
[02:41] <dreamnid> zetheroo: Either method are more or less the same
[02:41] <LjL> Thugacation: yes?
[02:41] <Flannel> Slurpee: You'll need to install it first, sudo apt-get install screen
[02:41] <dreamnid> Slurpee: Good idea to read a tutorial on screen since it isn't easy to pick up
[02:41] <dreamnid> Slurpee: or figure out on your own
[02:42] <Slurpee> thank you
[02:42] <Thugacation> is there a script i can download that will ping every1 in the room
[02:42] <Slurpee> ill be cool from here :)
[02:42] <Thugacation> without me having to type it out manually
[02:42] <yoshi> How do I mount a partition?
[02:42] <Captain> test
[02:42] <zetheroo> dreamnid: I have Elisa Media Center working in another User without XGL loading so that Elisa can take full advantage of the 3D acceleration..... but I need Elisa to be able to grab the media from those three folders without me having to copy the data to that user and use up twice the disk space
[02:42] <Kasuko> Is there a way to edit my wireless preferred SSIDs?
[02:42] <sarthor> Hi. my ubuntu is working fine, but When i press alt+Ctrl+F1 or F2...., then my text mode is not looking as normal. the fonts are larger, and the screen is looking like too zoomed? how to fix it??
[02:42] <bod_> tritium, dreamnid, ok , not good,.,. it said i have entered an incorrect number,. then it asked me to select a mode number (between 1 and 8) or scan ,. i scanned a couple of times with no joy then choose mode 6 which was 80x60 ,. then the text whent really small, then it booted up fine, but still no loading bars
[02:43] <tritium> bod_: you'll have to specify a valid mode for your video card
[02:43] <insomniasx> dishnuts.net
[02:43] <bod_> tritium,  and how would i go about finding that information and then specifying it?
[02:43] <insomniasx> hello all
[02:44] <AikoAiko> zetherroo: how about chmod a+rw the common directory and then ln -s common /home/dest
[02:44] <bod_> hi
[02:44] <dreamnid> zetheroo: hmm... ok, well, I think the easiest way is to move the folder to some folder in root, say /mediacenter
[02:44] <dreamnid> zetheroo: and give everyone read and write permissions
[02:44] <usr13> What does it take to get DVDs to play?
[02:44] <dreamnid> bod_ : Here's the list of modes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[02:45] <zetheroo> dreamnid: but Elisa looks by default at the Home folder where those three folder are.....
[02:45] <bod_> dreamnid, im gonna send another round of applause ur way my friend
[02:45] <Pangz> sorry i got dc.. how to change the screen resolution?
[02:45] <usr13> gxine error:   Media stream scrambled/encrypted
[02:45] <zetheroo> usr13: medibuntu
[02:45]  * bod_ claps to dreamnid 
[02:45] <dreamnid> zetheroo: you can then add a symbolic link to your home folders
[02:45] <Dingbat> Hello
[02:46] <Pangz> nemilar: are you back?
[02:46] <dreamnid> zetheroo: maybe AikoAIko's idea is better
[02:46] <zetheroo> dreamnid: oh I see... and delete the other 3 folders
[02:46] <zetheroo> ?
[02:46] <tritium> bod_: try 792
[02:46] <nemilar> Pangz: yeah here now
[02:46] <zetheroo> dreamnid: what idea?
[02:46] <Pangz> its about squid3
[02:46] <usr13> medibuntu?
[02:46] <Dingbat> Question: Installed xfce on my ubuntu setup (ie: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop).  Played with it a bit.  Now, when I switch from gnome to xfce ... xfce screen is always blank.  I can see skype and gaim come up, but no desktop.  What can I do to fix it?
[02:46] <bod_> tritium, how would i tell how many colours im running in?
[02:46] <tritium> yes, usr13
[02:46] <tritium> !dvd | usr13
[02:46] <ubotu> usr13: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:46] <Pangz> nemilar what is next after installation?
[02:46] <nemilar> Pangz: configuration ;)
[02:47] <Pangz> yes about the configuration
[02:47] <dreamnid> zetheroo: <AikoAiko> zetherroo: how about chmod a+rw the common directory and then ln -s common /home/dest
[02:47] <nemilar> Pangz: well what are you using it for?  office net or something?
[02:47] <usr13> libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[02:47] <Pangz> office nemilar
[02:47] <nemilar> Pangz: iirc the confs are in /etc/squid/
[02:47] <tritium> usr13: read the info above, please.
[02:47] <zetheroo> dreamnid: I dunno how to do any of that terminal stuff.... sorry
[02:47] <dreamnid> zetheroo: I never use Elisa, so I'm not sure how it works
[02:47] <bod_> !medibuntu | usr13
[02:47] <ubotu> usr13: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:47] <nemilar> Pangz: you then want to point all the other machines to use the squid machine as a proxy server
[02:48] <dreamnid> zetheroo: does it look at all the folders in home, or just specific folders?
[02:48] <bmk789> how do i use the md5sum.txt and verify the files on a dvd?
[02:48] <zetheroo> dreamnid: those three
[02:48] <dreamnid> bmk789: md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[02:48] <Kasuko> is there a configuration file that I can change to remove a certain SSID from my prefered SSIDs?
[02:48] <Pangz> yes nemilar
[02:48] <nemilar> Pangz: so what exactly are you having a problem with?
[02:48] <Dingbat> Question: Installed xfce on my ubuntu setup (ie: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop).  Played with it a bit.  Now, when I switch from gnome to xfce ... xfce screen is always blank.  I can see skype and gaim come up, but no desktop.  What can I do to fix it?
[02:48] <tritium> bod_: good luck, and good night
[02:49] <bod_> tritium, dreamnid, how do i tell how many colours im running in?
[02:49] <bmk789> dreamnid: thanks
[02:49] <Pangz> after i install the squid3 what is next? the configuration how to? in terminal
[02:49] <dreamnid> bod_ : usually it is 16, 24, 32
[02:49] <bod_> tritium,  thanks allot for your help
[02:49] <adub> how do i update my spash screen theme
[02:49] <bod_> dreamnid, i know, but i need to know exactly which one
[02:49] <dreamnid> bod_ : just pick one :-P
[02:49] <dreamnid> bod_ : I chose 24
[02:50] <jordan> If someone pings my computer and my computer responds, is there a log of this on my computer?
[02:50] <dreamnid> zetheroo: Let's say you have user1 that will hold all the media files
[02:50] <dreamnid> zetheroo: so for all other users... remove the Music, Video, etc folders
[02:50] <dreamnid> zetheroo: then do ln -s Video /home/user1/Video in each user's home directory
[02:50] <tritium> bod_: 32 typically.  If not, 24.
[02:50] <nickrud> bod_: xdpyinfo | grep -i "root window"
[02:50] <bod_> tritium, thanks
[02:50] <zetheroo> dreamnid: so just make shortcuts
[02:51] <dreamnid> zetheroo: finally in /home/user1/ chmod -R 777 Video
[02:51] <bod_> nickrud, whats a root window?
[02:51] <blag> how do i change the keyring password?
[02:51] <nickrud> bod_: plus 8 bits of transparency
[02:51] <deadlylife> hai
[02:51] <dreamnid> zetherooo : They're links, not shortcuts, but similar idea
[02:51] <d1avlo> bladezor, passwd
[02:51] <d1avlo> bladezor, passwd usuario
[02:51] <zetheroo> dreamnid: oh ok
[02:51] <nickrud> bod_: the bottom level window on your display
[02:51] <Shpoo1> Cool, I got file sharing working using NFS, for those who were helping me.
[02:51] <sapperjanko> ok all, i think i now have it workin.... can someone try http://sapper.mine.nu:27950   when i restarted the router it changed the damn IP on me
[02:51] <nickrud> bod_: the background behind the desktop background
[02:51] <dreamnid> nice, Shpool :_P
[02:52] <deadlylife> Does anyone know how well Wine does the steam client and Source engine games?
[02:52] <bod_> nickrud, im not sure what you mean, do i just type the command into a terminal?
[02:52] <Shpoo1> :-D
[02:52] <nickrud> bod_: yes
[02:52] <dreamnid> sapperjanko: Works :-P
[02:52] <jordan> deadlylife : depends on your video card
[02:52] <Svoda> I have one harddisk with 33 bad blocks (this number does not seem to increase with time, scanned several times).  If there are/will be no more bad sectors , will the install program automatically format the swap and ext3 partitions so that these sectors are avoided? (will the filesystem be stable, if no new bad blocks appear?)
[02:52] <bod_> nickrud, with or without typing "root window"    ?
[02:52] <green-_> the gutsy live dvd vs live cd .. clearly a huge difference in what's included ... is compiz fusion on the live cd or do i need to go w/ the live dvd for that?
[02:52] <jrib> deadlylife: it works, but performance is better in windows imo
[02:52] <microphex> wow dualbooting ubuntu with windows was so easy...
[02:52] <Shpoo1> Aww, I'm Shpoo1, not Shpook. My other computer must still be logged on.
[02:52] <willy> if you want windows games grab cygwin
[02:52] <nickrud> bod_: with, that's the string we're looking for in the output of xdpyinfo
[02:52] <jrib> if you want windows games, use windows
[02:52] <bod_> nickrud,  ok il give it a go
[02:53] <jordan> can you use the real windows DLLs in wine for better performance??
[02:53] <dreamnid> jordan, they are real window dlls for the most part
[02:53] <Shpoo1> Next question: Any guides on battery optimization anywhere?
[02:53] <nickrud> willy: cygwin ??
[02:53] <jordan> dreamid really?
[02:53] <robdig> green-_: compiz fusion is included on live cd
[02:53] <microphex> i had windows 2008 server installed on my other laptop, i popped in a ubuntu disc, installed it, and after the installation i had the choice of booting either operating system
[02:53] <bod_> nickrud,   root window id:    0x1a5  depth of root window:    24 planes
[02:53] <dreamnid> jordan: I believe so
[02:53] <dreamnid> jordan: Although I haven't followed your convo, so you might be talking about something else
[02:53] <nickrud> bod_: so, 24 bit color. 8 bits of transparency
[02:53] <green-_> robdig: is there a simple answer to what makes up the extra 3.5 gigs on the live dvd?
[02:54] <jordan> dreamid hmm i thought they were mostly hacked up versions as to not violate copyright
[02:54] <bod_> nickrud, cheers
[02:54] <Big-E> Hey, does anyone know a netbeans equivalent for Ubuntu that isn't as resource intensive?
[02:54] <dreamnid> jordan : I could be wrong
[02:54] <jordan> Is there a log of responding to pings?
[02:54] <usr13> tritium: Tnx
[02:54] <robdig> green-_: a bunch of optional packages. if you use live cd, then you just download the additional ones you want with synaptic, or apt, or aptitude...
[02:54] <dreamnid> Big-E: Eclipse?
[02:54] <Big-E> Resource Intensive.
[02:55] <Big-E> I am only running on 256mb RAM.
[02:55] <nickrud> big time resource intensive
[02:55] <dreamnid> lol
[02:55] <dreamnid> sorry
[02:55] <green-_> robdig: fair enough, no need for the dvd for me then
[02:55] <Big-E> At least until I can afford more ram, I need to find an alternative.
[02:55] <robdig> green-_: compiz fusion is installed by default btw
[02:55] <jrib> green-_: the dvd just has all of the main repository on it
[02:55] <bod_> nickrud, dreamnid, gonna check now,. rebooting,. brb
[02:55] <Big-E> I don't like eclipse anyway, netbeans > eclipse.
[02:55] <jrib> green-_: (so you don't need to fetch from the internet those packages)
[02:55] <robdig> green-_: but it is not turned on by default :)
[02:55] <dreamnid> Big-E: Yeah, I should try NetBeans some time..... but otherwise I don't know of another IDE
[02:56] <Big-E> Guess I may have to code out a GUI by hand. >.<
[02:56] <green-_> have there been any significant improvements in fonts in the last year or so?
[02:56] <Big-E> Thanks anyway, dreamnid.
[02:56] <sapperjanko> ok all, i think i now have it workin.... can someone try http://sapper.mine.nu:27950   when i restarted the router it changed the damn IP on me
[02:57] <peanuts132> how do i program stuff to make 8 bit blocks
[02:57] <nickrud> Big-E: you might try running fluxbox instead of gnome, it uses far fewer resources, leaves more for netbeans
[02:57] <Shinma> anyone know a way to play a video file as your background?
[02:57] <Big-E> I am using Xfce
[02:57] <nickrud> ok, that's kinda small
[02:57] <Big-E> Also less resource intensive.
[02:57] <nickrud> there's twm :)
[02:57] <Big-E> twm?
[02:58] <Big-E> I was thinking of running rat posion, too
[02:58] <Big-E> poison*
[02:58] <Arbitrary> tiny window manager is great
[02:58] <Shpoo1> Oh, I remember what I wanted to do, and I could probably google this, but I'll ask here real quick. How would I go about setup up a local server so I can develop locally? I don't really need PHP support or anything, just the basics.
[02:58] <nickrud> Big-E: a joke mostly. Its the window manager that X provides
[02:58] <peanuts132> whats the best language to make cool progreams with
[02:58] <marshall_> hey guys
[02:58] <Big-E> Oh. ^^
[02:58] <Optimus56> python apparently
[02:58] <nickrud> Shpoo1: sudo apt-get install apache2 , put your html in /var/www
[02:59] <peanuts132> i can get python to print hello world
[02:59] <nickrud> Shpoo1: you'll see it at http://<hostname>
[02:59] <blag> how do i change the default keyring password?
[02:59] <marshall_> i believe ive messed up my fglrx driver, how do i get rid of everything and go back to the way it was with the restricted modules driver that came with gutsy?
[02:59] <Shpoo1> nickrud: Perfect, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
[02:59] <peanuts132> is there any front end gui's for python?
[02:59] <dreamnid> peanuts132: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/programming.html
[02:59] <Big-E> marshall - restore the your backup files, assuming you did backups before you started messing with things. ^^
[02:59] <Optimus56> peanuts123: now ur 4 1337 nuX hax0r
[03:00] <Shpoo1> nickrud: What's the hostname again? My computer name?
[03:00] <whabo> hello ... is there a way to remove compiz from command line? coz i chose compiz 3D settings and now my screen is black and i can only see my mouse .. HELP .. plz .. thx ..... anyone?
[03:00] <bod_> nickrud, dreamnid, i notice a problem with the fourth line from the bottom : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53835/
[03:00] <nano__> is there any way to get apt-get to install a package without installing dependencies
[03:00] <nickrud> Shpoo1: yes.
[03:00] <Shpoo1> nickrud: Thank you. :-)
[03:00] <shishio> anyone help me with gcc pr gcc-c++ installation?
[03:00] <dreamnid> bod_, I think that's fine
[03:00] <bod_> nano_, man apt-get
[03:00] <dreamnid> bod_: one sec
[03:00] <nickrud> bod_: not a problem. You can use an image for the background for grub, it's optional
[03:01] <dreamnid> bod_: Yeah, you can ignore
[03:01] <bod_> dreamnid, nickrud, ok thanks guys,. gonna check if its worked,.,. brb
[03:01] <whabo> hello ... is there a way to remove compiz from command line? coz i chose compiz 3D settings and now my screen is black and i can only see my mouse ..anyone ? help thx
[03:01] <nano__> bod_ there is nothing of the sorts in there, there are options that will allow apt-get to ignore installing dependencies that it cannot fetch, but nothing that will prevent it from installing dependencies that it can
[03:01] <dreamnid> whabo : ps avx | grep compiz
[03:01] <tritium> !b-e | shishio
[03:01] <ubotu> shishio: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[03:01] <cottima> hello, is there an (iso) image in the dvd iso for booting an install with the dvd iso on another pc or harddrive?  (like fedora's boot.iso)
[03:02] <nickrud> nano_: why do you want something without the dependencies?
[03:02] <Robotchicken1886> does anyone know the name of the program that a toolbar like the one on apple mac computers
[03:02] <shishio> tritium, im having probel withinstalling a specific gcc, can you help me?
[03:02] <whabo> dreamnid thx ...
[03:02] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: Avant
[03:02] <nano__> nickrud: i installed alsa-everything (version 1.015) from source, and i want to now install gdm but gdm has a dependency on alsa 1.013.  I am using fiesty
[03:02] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: aka AWN
[03:02] <nickrud> Robotchicken1886: avant-window-navigator
[03:02] <tritium> shishio: which one?
[03:03] <Robotchicken1886> hmm k
[03:03] <Arbitrary> cottima, what you ask makes little sense.  the ubuntu iso is bootable on any pc
[03:03] <bod_> dreamnid, i still get "Video mode not supported" where the loading bar should be
[03:03] <shishio> tritium, im trying to upgradew my 3d accelated graphics driver
[03:03] <CokeNCode> hey guys, looking to run windows server 2003, trying to prepare for the MCSA, any virtual machine suggestions that I can use?
[03:03] <nano__> nickrud: any ideas?
[03:03] <dreamnid> bod_ : really?  Interesting
[03:03] <Big-E> CokeNCode: VMWare
[03:03] <tritium> shishio: yes, but which compiler?
[03:03] <nickrud> nano_: oh. You need to read up on equivs , it's a package you can install and use to create dummy packages
[03:03] <CokeNCode> was trying to do a dual boot, but the drive doesn't seem to be working, so i think i'll go with this option instead
[03:04] <bod_> dreamnid, i think "irritating" us the word your looking for,.,.,.;)
[03:04] <Big-E> CokeNCode: VirtualBox is also decent.
[03:04] <nickrud> nano_: then make a dummy package for alsa, and gdm will be satisfied
[03:04] <nano__> nickrud: so there is no way to go about this with apt-get?
[03:04] <Robotchicken1886> no not a web browser
[03:04] <dreamnid> bod_ : lol
[03:04] <CokeNCode> thanks Big-E
[03:04] <dreamnid> bod_ : well, I would try a 800x600 mode then
[03:04] <nickrud> nano__: no
[03:04] <shishio> tritium, im trying to install these:gcc
[03:04] <shishio> gcc-c++ (?)
[03:04] <shishio> kernel-devel
[03:04] <joanki> does anyone know the shortcut to clear a line in terminal after yyou already typed in it?
[03:04] <whabo> dreamnid: what next?? thx after that command
[03:04] <CokeNCode> will give those a try. once i install , all my changes are saved and everything ?
[03:04] <Robotchicken1886> its like a menu bar that has programs in it and not sure how to discribe it
[03:04] <dreamnid> whabo: well, I was going to suggest killing compiz
[03:04] <fismoll8> hey guys--I'm not getting any sound through my headphones. Speaker sound is fine. Currently running ubuntu gutsy with alsamixer. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
[03:04] <Robotchicken1886> its on the desktop
[03:04] <dreamnid> whabo: but I'm not sure if you'll regain your desktop
[03:04] <fismoll8> I've scoured the forums and can't find anything
[03:04] <bod_> dreamnid, it worked fine with the live cd,.,. should i change the vga=no. again for a 800x600 number,.,. can u give me that link again pleasse
[03:05] <sparr_> joanki: ctrl-c ?
[03:05] <whabo> dreamnid: how do i do it plz thx
[03:05] <peanuts132> h ow do i make a progra, in python
[03:05] <Big-E> CokeNCode: Why an MCSA? Go for your LPCI-1
[03:05] <dreamnid> whabo: but all you do is take the number from the first column
[03:05] <CokeNCode> can i apt-get install vmware
[03:05] <CokeNCode> ?
[03:05] <nano__> nickrud: what if i go ahead and install gdm with alsa-utils 1.0.13 , considering i have alsa-utils-1.0.15 already installed, can i get away with this?
[03:05] <nickrud> CokeNCode: add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server
[03:05] <dreamnid> whabo: and then "kill <pid>"
[03:05] <nano__> what will happen?
[03:05] <bod_> peanuts132, you cant just ask that,. you need to learn the language first
[03:05] <CokeNCode> Big-E, well, i'm already half way through, but, this was for work, so I gotta do this first
[03:05] <bardyr> fismoll8, Preferences -> select all volumes and turn them all up
[03:05] <fismoll8> i have
[03:05] <joanki> does anyone know the shortcut to clear a line in terminal after yyou already typed in it?
[03:05] <nickrud> nano_: the 1.0.13 will overrwrite the 1.0.15 you have
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> CokeNCode: I believe yes, if you enable the "partner" repository
[03:05] <whabo> dreamnid thx
[03:05] <bod_> peanuts132, #python    or    #ubuntu-prgramming
[03:05] <fismoll8> there is no headphone option bardyr
[03:05] <dreamnid> joanki: <CTRL-U>
[03:05] <Big-E> CokeNCode: True enough, I need to find work which may resort to me grabbing a stupid Micro$oft cer.t
[03:05] <nano__> nickrud: it will only overwrite alsa-utils.....
[03:06] <joanki> THANKYOU!
[03:06] <bardyr> fismoll8, sometime the naming is a not appropriate
[03:06] <tritium> shishio: you mean g++ and linux-kernel-devel?
[03:06] <CokeNCode> Big-E, yup!
[03:06] <Big-E> CokeNCode: Old IT managers are dens.
[03:06] <bod_> dreamnid, ????
[03:06] <Big-E> dense*
[03:06] <nano__> nickrud: does that mean my alsa-lib 1.0.15 and alsa-driver 1.0.15 will really be effected?
[03:06] <nickrud> nano__: it depends on alsa-utils ? Your machine, but I'd make an equiv
[03:06] <dreamnid> joanki: No prob
[03:06] <CokeNCode> they're changing everything now tho ... the new top thing is microsoft architect
[03:06] <shishio> tritium, yes
[03:06] <CokeNCode> in a bit, mcsa won't be worth jack
[03:06] <tritium> shishio: okay, well, those are the package names
[03:06] <nano__> nickrud: so u said the program name is equiv
[03:06] <nano__> nickrud: and this will allow me to do exactly what..>
[03:06] <nickrud> nano__: equivss
[03:06] <Big-E> Yeah, I want to grab some SANS certs.
[03:07] <nano__> nickrud: i suppose i can just compile gdm from source?
[03:07] <shishio> tritium, u know how to install them>? im so noob
[03:07]  * czr gives a SANS Serif cert to Big-E 
[03:07] <Big-E> Heh, thanks!
[03:07] <nano__> nickrud: thats a way around it i suppose, is gdm compilation a hectic process?
[03:07] <dreamnid> bod_: hmm.. try 788
[03:07] <nickrud> nano_: equivs that is.  You will create a dummy package that provides alsa-utils and any other alsa stuff gdm depends on. You will install it with dpkg -i, and then gdm will think alsa is installed via the package manager
[03:07] <bod_> dreamnid, can you give me the link again please
[03:08] <dreamnid> bod_ : To what?
[03:08] <nickrud> nano__: it's simpler than it sounds. And yes, substituting compiled stuff for packages can be very hectic
[03:08] <bod_> dreamnid,  dw i forgot i have history,.,.lol
[03:08] <nano__> nickrud: thnx for your help
[03:08] <tritium> shishio: sudo apt-get install <package_name> <package_name> ...
[03:08] <Willabee> I'm having trouble with microphone
[03:09] <Willabee> on windows it picks up sound perfectly
[03:09] <bod_> dreamnid, im gonna try a few so il be bak when im out of ideas,.,.lol
[03:09] <Willabee> but on ubuntu it gets sound at greatly reduced volume
[03:09] <nickrud> nano__: iirc there are some samples in /usr/share/doc/equivs that you can modify easily
[03:09] <dreamnid> bod_ : sounds good
[03:09] <nano__> nickrud: thnx
[03:09] <fismoll8> bardyr: turned all the sounds up--still nothing
[03:10] <bardyr> fismoll8, soundcard?
[03:10] <fismoll8> soundblaster audigy
[03:10] <fismoll8> audigy se to be exact
[03:10] <shishio> tritium, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:10] <shishio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:10] <tritium> shishio: do you have synaptic open?
[03:10] <shishio> tritium, oops sry
[03:10] <fismoll8> alsamixer detecs the card---but there is no option for controlling headphone volume
[03:11] <_unnamed_> hey is there anyone here willing to help me install scipy and numpy?
[03:11] <sapperjanko> ok got another question for ya all... I just wanna know if this can be done... I got another real old PC, wont install ubuntu, or freebsd 4.8.. But i was thinking of making it a hard drive box and just run dos with a network interface.... If i do that, can i make samba connect into that instead of the drive within the server for files?????
[03:12] <tritium> _unnamed_: let me teach you a trick: "apt-cache search scipy" will show you the name of the ubuntu package
[03:12] <peanuts132> will it run dsl
[03:12] <tritium> _unnamed_: try that for numpy as well, and you'll find what you're looking for ;)
[03:12] <Arbitrary> anything will run dsl
[03:12] <Arbitrary> just do that
[03:12] <willy> if you have an old box might wanna get puppy linux or damn small linux
[03:12] <fismoll8> hey guys--I'm not getting any sound through my headphones. Speaker sound is fine. Currently running ubuntu gutsy with alsamixer. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
[03:13] <_unnamed_> tritium, apt-get finds it just fine, my problem is that it tries to install python 2.4, but i want it to install as a mod for 2.5
[03:13] <Arbitrary> if it is too old to run debian potato, just forget about it, its a damn apple 2
[03:13] <Robotchicken1886> ok so im looking at a picture of it right now,   it is a menu bar like the one on macs that when you scroll over the icon on the bar the icon gets bigger
[03:13] <nickrud> Arbitrary: lol, I was gonna say woody
[03:13] <Robotchicken1886> also the icons jump around when you mouse over them
[03:13] <tritium> _unnamed_: are you not running gutsy?
[03:13] <_unnamed_> I am
[03:13] <cottima> Arbitrary fedora has a iso image (about 10MB) inside its cd and dvd iso images.  So you can extract it and then use a cd-rw to burn (and over use cd-r or dvd-r discs).
[03:13] <_unnamed_> ...running gutsy that is
[03:14] <sapperjanko> well i think its a 486 or at least something above 322
[03:14] <tritium> _unnamed_: yes, I see what you mean...
[03:14] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: wait.. what's wrong?
[03:14] <Arbitrary> cottima, what is the point of that exactly?
[03:14] <Robotchicken1886> im trying to figure out the name of a app so i can download it
[03:14] <tritium> _unnamed_: hmm
[03:14] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: we already told you, Avant Windows Manager
[03:14] <Arbitrary> cottima, maybe you should use the alternate install cd
[03:15] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: aka AWN
[03:15] <cottima> arbitrary the image will pull the rest of the cd/dvd images from http, ftp, or partition
[03:15] <th0r> Robotchicken1886 or wbar
[03:15] <Arbitrary> oh I see I see
[03:15] <_unnamed_> tritium, do you know if it matters that it installs with 2.4?
[03:15] <tritium> _unnamed_: I'm not sure.
[03:15] <_unnamed_> hmm
[03:16] <jimbolina> I have a weird problem:  my wired (and wireless) connections seem normal, but when I attempt large (2 mb or more) downloads, it will start and eventually freeze... any ideas?
[03:16] <Arbitrary> I've used the suse network install cd before, but Ubuntu fits on a single CDR
[03:16] <Arbitrary> cottima, so exactly what is the point? ubuntu fits on a single cd
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[03:17] <^Wolf> How do I disable HPET in Ubuntu 7.10?
[03:17] <Robotchicken1886> no i just look that up its not what im looking for
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[03:17] <nickrud> Robotchicken1886: there's also kiba
[03:18] <dreamnid> Robotchicken1886: what are you looking for again?
[03:18] <jimbolina> and in here, the IRC chat goes by in bursts
[03:18] <Robotchicken1886> is that the one that is like the icon tray holder thing at the bottom of the desktop
[03:18] <Arbitrary> does ubuntu still have the mail option?  used to be I could get a copy in the mail
[03:19] <dreamnid> Arbitrary: yep
[03:19] <Arbitrary> there ya go cottima
[03:19] <nickrud> Robotchicken1886: you mean the notification area that sits in the panel, has the update manager orangy starburst and the network applet?
[03:19] <saristil> hello
[03:19] <Arbitrary> if you can't download the iso, just order the disk
[03:19] <Vadi> After I sent a file to print, how can I check it's status?
[03:19] <whabo> hello ... is there a way to remove compiz from command line? coz i chose compiz 3D settings and now my screen is black and i can only see my mouse ..anyone help????
[03:19] <Vadi> whabo: metacity --replace
[03:20] <^Wolf> How do I disable HPET in Ubuntu 7.10?  GRUB is not found or installed
[03:20] <Robotchicken1886> no no,  this is like a animated bar,  that you can place your desktop icons and apps in,
[03:20] <whabo> vadi okat and then what ?? thx
[03:20] <Robotchicken1886> it is on macs and i have seen it on ubuntu a lot
[03:20] <dreamnid> vadi: In the upper right corner, you should see the print icon which you can double click to see the status
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> Robotchicken1886: awn?
[03:20] <ushimitsudoki> Robotchicken1886: avant window navigator
[03:20] <Vadi> whabo: then things should be OK. Try also ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X
[03:20] <Robotchicken1886> no
[03:20] <Robotchicken1886> i looked it up that is not it
[03:20] <peanuts132> i want the mac bar
[03:20] <th0r> Robotchicken1886 wbar
[03:20] <Vadi> dreamnid: I don't have one though.
[03:21] <Arbitrary> what does the hpet have to do with grub exactly?
[03:21] <whabo> thx
[03:21] <^Wolf> I don't know, that is what my friend told me, he said you could disable it from grub by pressing "e"
[03:21] <Arbitrary> not exactly I don't think
[03:21] <^Wolf> I also add, there is nothing in BIOS
[03:22] <Arbitrary> try a boot option like nohpet
[03:22] <bod_> dreamnid, tritium, ok still no joy,. have you got any other suggestions?
[03:22] <dreamnid> bod_ : really?
[03:22] <dreamnid> bod_ : wow
[03:22] <bod_> dreamnid, no im lying,.,.;)
[03:22] <Arbitrary> or something, but really, why depend on software timing?
[03:22] <dreamnid> bod_ : Which modes did you try?
[03:22] <tritium> bod_: I'd suggest just live with the default 80x25, then
[03:22] <bod_> dreamnid, yes really
[03:22] <octogone> how do i get a list of ports i'm listening on?
[03:22] <Robotchicken1886> maybe launcher is a better word
[03:22] <^Wolf> I can't get Ubuntu to boot
[03:22] <_unnamed_> tritium, I think I've found a repository from which I can dl the correct scipy, but how can I tell apt-get to use that repo instead of its own?
[03:22] <Robotchicken1886> it is a application launcher and it sits on your desktop
[03:22] <tritium> _unnamed_: I'm looking into it.  Please hold.
[03:23] <bascule> octogone: netstat -pant
[03:23] <^Wolf> that is the original problem and my friend thought that it had something to do with HPET
[03:23] <bod_> dreamnid, all 32/24 for 1024/800
[03:23] <bod_> tritium, what is that,.,. ?
[03:23] <dreamnid> bod_ try 800x600
[03:23] <octogone> thanks, bascule
[03:23] <_unnamed_> thank you tritium
[03:23] <Robotchicken1886> you can put anything you want in it and when you scroll over it the icons get bigger
[03:23] <bod_> dreamnid, i mean ive done all those combinations
[03:23] <tritium> bod_: not using a vga=XYZ at all
[03:23] <dreamnid> oh
[03:23] <badkitty> HI
[03:23] <bod_> tritium, but then i wont have the loading bars,.,.?
[03:24] <dreamnid> do you have another monitor to try, bod_?
[03:24] <ushimitsudoki> Robotchicken1886: That is *exactly* what avant window navigator does. Are you absolutely sure awn will not do what you want? It is customizable, so the icon scroll-over effects and appearance may vary
[03:24] <tritium> bod_: yes you wil
[03:24] <tritium> will*
[03:24] <bod_> dreamnid, no
[03:24] <bod_> tritium, the problem is that i do not have the loading bars, and cannot seem to be able to get them
[03:24] <rodolfo> people, for users who still get stuck on the flashplugin issue(like me), where can they get a patch/new version from adobe (which is supposed to work)?
[03:25] <tritium> bod_: well, if that's what you're trying to pursue, we're barking up the wrong tree.
[03:25] <spdf> Robotchicken1886, There is another one.. Kibo dock?
[03:25] <tritium> bod_: when did it stop?
[03:25] <RequinB5> What generic video drivers are most likely to work - my nvidia card can't use nv and i've gotten vesa and vga to work so far?
[03:25] <bod_> tritium, since i stopped neding the live cd to boot
[03:25] <bod_> dreamnid, thanks for the help,. but seems we were going in the wrong direction,.,.lol
[03:25] <mohbana> hi, anyone here got an auzen x-plosion sound card?
[03:25] <dreamnid> tritium: Yeah, I also thought it was weird that he has problems with no vga option with the 1024x768 resolution
[03:26] <tritium> dreamnid: yes, it is.
[03:26] <bod_> !flash | rodolfo
[03:26] <ubotu> rodolfo: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:26] <fismoll8> hey guys--i'm trying to get sound to come through my headphones. Currently running ubuntu gutsy gibbon with soundblaster audigy se soundcard and gradoSR 60 headphones. Using alsamixer--there is no option in it to increase or decrease headphone volume. Any ideas?
[03:26] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:26] <th0r> Robotchicken1886 I told you twice what it is....scroll up and read
[03:26] <bod_> rodolfo, this is what you want :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[03:26] <tritium> _unnamed_:  It installs bit that are python2.4/2.5 specific, so
[03:26] <tritium>                  it does properly depend on both of them.
[03:27] <_unnamed_> ah
[03:27] <_unnamed_> how'd you figure that out, just our of curiosity?
[03:27] <tritium> _unnamed_: talking with the MOTUs
[03:27] <bod_> tritium, ive never had the loading bars,. im using a Nvida 7600 gt graphics card
[03:27] <tritium> _unnamed_: but also, looking at the package dependencies, etc.
[03:27] <tritium> bod_: that's odd
[03:28] <RequinB5> What generic video drivers are most likely to work - my nvidia card can't use nv and i've gotten vesa and vga to work so far?
[03:28] <_unnamed_> what's a MOTU?
[03:28] <tritium> _unnamed_: also, verified that you can import it successfully in 2.5
[03:28] <bod_> tritium, it just displays "Video mode not supported" when the loading bars should be there
[03:28] <tritium> _unnamed_: Master of the Universe (responsible for packages in the universe repos)
[03:28] <mohbana> hi, anyone here got an auzen x-plosion sound card?
[03:28] <_unnamed_> aha
[03:28] <_unnamed_> well thanks a bunch tritium, i'm good now
[03:28] <tritium> bod_: I've never seen that happen before.
[03:29] <tritium> _unnamed_: good deal
[03:29] <_unnamed_> see ya
[03:29] <bod_> tritium, oh,. the only time its not good to be unique,.,.lol
[03:29] <joanki> can anyone tell me - i'm trying to move a file that has a space between two words.... how do i do that?  it won't work
[03:29] <bod_> tritium, im using the 7.10 amd64 bit version if that would be a problem
[03:29] <tritium> bod_: I recall working with you on the booting issue
[03:29] <fismoll8> hey guys--i'm trying to get sound to come through my headphones. Currently running ubuntu gutsy gibbon with soundblaster audigy se soundcard and gradoSR 60 headphones. Using alsamixer--there is no option in it to increase or decrease headphone volume. Any ideas?
[03:30] <tritium> bod_: no, it shouldn't be
[03:30] <bod_> tritium,  oops,.,. erm yer
[03:30] <bod_> tritium,  what booting problem?
[03:30] <joanki> can anyone tell me - i'm trying to move a file that has a space between two words.... how do i do that?  it won't work
[03:30] <rodolfo> bod_: thanks =]
[03:30] <bod_> rodolfo, is it working?
[03:31] <joanki> do i do something like mv my\file ~/Documents ???
[03:31] <rodolfo> bod_: yes, it is
[03:31] <linxeh> joanki: escape the space with a \, or put quotes around it - eg mv "file name" "new file"
[03:31] <tritium> bod_: when you could only boot from the LiveCD
[03:31] <joanki> thank you so much
[03:31] <MJC_> Hello could anybody kindly recommend an easy to use Email client? ( not text based )
[03:31] <linxeh> joanki: alternatively use tab completion, and it will escape it for you
[03:31] <linxeh> MJC_: thunderbird
[03:31] <bod_> tritium, no that wasnt me
[03:31] <linxeh> MJC_: or kmail, evolution, etc
[03:32] <MJC_> Thank you Linxeh
[03:32] <bod_> tritium, i think someone else is called bod because bod_ is not my primary name, but ive never been able to use bod
[03:32] <bod_> tritium, but anyway,. is my loading bar problem fixable?
[03:33] <tritium> bod_: It was you, and I don't know at this time about your problem with usplash.
[03:34] <bod_> tritium, i only met you yesterday with the speedy argument (apology) how would i find out about my usplash problem?
[03:34] <mohbana> hi, anyone here got an auzen x-plosion sound card?
[03:34] <tritium> bod_: yes, bod is a registered nick.  You won't be able to get it.
[03:34] <joanki> oh wow thanks!
[03:34] <tritium> bod_: no, we've talked many times before
[03:34] <gothael> uh, hi
[03:34] <bod_> hi
[03:34] <gothael> heh
[03:34] <bod_> lol
[03:35] <gothael> been bouncin around between half a dozen distros finally decided to stick with this one
[03:35] <gothael> for longer than a day at least :-)
[03:35] <bod_> gothael, do you actually have a problem?
[03:35] <gothael> negative, oh I'm sorry I see this is the support channel, I'll be leaving now
[03:36] <bod_> gothael,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <tritium> gothael: you're welcome to stay
[03:36] <tritium> gothael: just keep it on-topic (ubuntu)
[03:36] <gothael> thank you but I'm really just putzin around so I'll free up the support chl... cheers all
[03:37]  * bod_ thinks gothael is a nice guy
[03:37] <russ> does someone know of a program that converts audio format from mp3 to aac?
[03:38] <bod_> tritium, if i was to search ubuntu forums for my problem,.,. how would i phrase my problem?
[03:39] <frankwatson> I used to have 2 raid-1s on of my drives and have since decommissioned one of them.  When I did this I did not know that I should have zeroed the superblock.  If I do this now, is my data safe?
[03:39] <tritium> bod_: be sure to include usplash
[03:40] <bod_> tritium, would "I have no loading bars (usplash?) please help"   be appropriate?
[03:40] <tritium> bod_: perhaps
[03:40] <Shishire> Is there any reason why the Desktop Cube option in compiz refuses to overide the system background?  I can't get it to display an image specified there as my wallpaper.
[03:40] <frankwatson> bod_: i wasn't here for your question, what was it...i recently had a splash problem with my 880gts
[03:40] <frankwatson> 8800gts*
[03:40] <bod_> Shishire, you need to use an unsupported olugin called wallpaper
[03:41] <swo> I was dealing ith the gps lt-20 bug but im having trouble with the make file
[03:41] <bod_> frankwatson, i have no loading bars,. it just displays a message "Video mode not supported"
[03:41] <Shishire> 'cause the compiz page says that I shouldn't need to use it.  I'll try it, thanks
[03:41] <bod_> frankwatson, 7600gt Nvidia
[03:41] <frankwatson> bod_: but still boots, or does not?
[03:42] <kyleBAKED> when trying to start xserver, i get the error "no valid modes", upon closer examination of my xorg.log, it says "no mode of this name" for all the resolutions, follow by "hsync out of range" for all of the resolutions, can someone please help? this is a fresh install to fluxbuntu from feisty, and everything was working fine in feisty
[03:42] <bod_> frankwatson,  yep, it boots,. the message goes away when i get to the login screen
[03:42] <Pirate-King> hello is there any cool ways to make the brown go away in ubuntu?
[03:42] <bod_> Shishire, no probs
[03:42] <frankwatson> bod_: sorry, that is different than mine, not sure
[03:42] <bod_> frankwatson, thanks anyway
[03:42] <VvWolverinevV> hi, is anyone experienced with rhythmbox here?
[03:43] <ushimitsudoki> bod_ : I think I have that same issue on my 8800GTS, it's like the monitor loses signal a time or two during the booting/log-in process?
[03:43] <swo> Any help with the make file
[03:43] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, that sounds like the prob,. any fixes?
[03:43] <bod_> swo, whats up?
[03:43] <Pirate-King> what wolverine?
[03:43] <Pirate-King> what;s wrong?
[03:43] <frankwatson> anyone familiar with RAID and mdadm: if i zero-superblock, is my data safe?
[03:43] <bod_> !anyone | VvWolverinevV
[03:43] <ubotu> VvWolverinevV: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:44] <ushimitsudoki> bod_no : I was just assuming that it was a change until the nvidia drivers loaded or something. It's a bit annoying, though - sure would like to know what causes it
[03:44] <swo> hmm
[03:44] <swo> just a sec
[03:44] <VvWolverinevV> Pirate-King: how can i prevent a file from being added to my music library when the file is in my music folder?
[03:44] <VvWolverinevV> Pirate-King: i want to keep the file there, but not be loaded by rhythmbox
[03:44] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, i dont think its a Nvidia problem,. i get the same message if i dont use the graphics card
[03:44] <Arbitrary> frankwatson, why do you have the desire to zero the superblock?
[03:45] <bod_> VvWolverinevV, remove said file?
[03:45] <thechris> i need install help
[03:45] <bod_> VvWolverinevV,  sorry,. got ahead of my self
[03:45] <VvWolverinevV> bod_: please read my last message
[03:45] <bod_> thechitowncubs, shoot
[03:45] <thechris> the docs explain a no-cd install from linux
[03:45] <thechris> this does not work for the 64b distribution of 7.10
[03:45] <thechitowncubs> bod_: huh
[03:45] <bod_> thechris, please explain ur problem fully in one line
[03:45] <Pirate-King> un install rhythmbox
[03:45] <wyclif> hi Pirate-King
[03:46] <bod_> thechitowncubs, sorry,. too many people beginnine with the,. my bad
[03:46] <nickrud> bod_: you da man :)
[03:46] <Arbitrary> frankwatson, also, if you are not sure, just backup your data before you try anything
[03:46] <thechitowncubs> bod_: no problem back to my f3cking essay
[03:46] <bod_> nickrud, yer!!!! (wot do u mean)?
[03:46] <VvWolverinevV> Pirate-King: i want to continue to use rhythmbox for most of my music, just don't want it to load a few files
[03:46] <nickrud> bod_: go man go, I say
[03:46] <bod_> thechitowncubs, language,. but unlucky
[03:46] <ushimitsudoki> bod_: Hmm, I can't say about that - I've only always used the 8800GTS.BIOS/POST/GRUB is fine, then "Kernal alive" ... then monitor message "No signal", then Nvidia splash screen, then login screen is how i think it goes
[03:46] <thechris> I need to install the 64b version of 7.10 without a CD.  the documentation online works for 32b, but not 64b images.  the kernel hangs (not panic) while booting the 64b image from grub
[03:46] <frankwatson> Arbitrary: I used to have RAID-1 on two of my drives that are no longer raided....now that i have installed raid support for ubuntu (for another unrelated raid), i can no longer mount the other drives because it picks up the raid information on them......i found the command to remove the raid info, but i want to know if it is going to remove the partition table or anything else
[03:47] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, i dont get the nvidia screen,. but apart from that ,. yer
[03:47] <bod_> thechris, if your not using a cd wot r u using?
[03:47] <frankwatson> Arbitrary: it is a lot of data to backup for a simple command, that if i know what it does, should be safe
[03:48] <Arbitrary> a single command can move mountains
[03:48] <bod_> nickrud, how do i do that?
[03:48] <nickrud> bod_: /notice
[03:48] <frankwatson> Arbitrary: i know that, but all the guides i can find on it assume i have no data on the drive
[03:48] <scott_> Just switched from Vista to Gutsy.  Very happy overall.  Most things work great including Wine (and on 64-bit!).  However, max volume in all of the media players i've tried is _much_ lower than vista.  Is there any way to tell the OS to boost volume generically for all apps?  Max volume is just too soft now...
[03:48] <frankwatson> Arbitrary: so they fail to address this issue
[03:48] <bod_> nickrud, oops,. please explain more
[03:48] <ushimitsudoki> bod_: Since text-mode would work there (like when you boot into recovery mode), and because I had to do a alternate install of Gutsy (as my video card wouldn't work with the live CD), I assume that the initial Ubuntu screen there isn't displaying for the same reason - and when the nvidia drivers come in all is fine. I hope you see what I mean.
[03:49] <thechris> bod_: a partition
[03:49] <oddalot> scott try alsamixer in command line?
[03:49] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, i couldnt install with gcard either,. but i just used the motherboard graphics then reconnected my card after install?
[03:49] <bod_> thechris, do you have a usb stick bigger then 700mb?
[03:49] <scott_> ok, I'll give it a try, thx
[03:49] <Arbitrary> in that case, frankwatson, I would backup..any tutorial involving partition manipulation assumes you have to data most likely because the effects of such manipulation will effectively wipe the drive
[03:50] <unagi> i unmounted my card reader now when i put the card back in ubuntu doesnt read it
[03:50] <ushimitsudoki> bod_: similar thing I think. The nvidia drivers aren't loaded yet, so that screen can't display. That's my best guess anyway. How to fix it, I wish I knew
[03:50] <VvWolverinevV> Pirate-King: bod_: i just decided to move the files to a different folder
[03:50] <Arbitrary> I would take no chances, even if somebody tells you a particular command is safe
[03:51] <unagi> nevermind
[03:51] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, how long are you gonna be on here,. im gonna post a forun thingy in a sec,. they usually get quite fast results
[03:51] <ushimitsudoki> bod_ : on and off for a bit ... working on some other issues :)
[03:51] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, kk,. il let u no if i find anything
[03:51] <adub> i installed gnome-splashscreen-manager but when i click on a splash screen to add the program just closes
[03:52] <KaRLa> pERMISI
[03:52] <Arbitrary> too many times I've seen data loss occur because a noob was messing with parted and such.  if you have to re-create the raid with dmraid to backup, so be it
[03:52] <bod_> nickrud, sorry only just saw ur post
[03:52] <frankwatson> Arbitrary: thanks
[03:53] <wibou> hello all
[03:53] <RequinB5> hello wibou
[03:53] <hankmoody> leave
[03:53] <kyleBAKED> where can i get ati mobility drivers? i am desperate, im using lynx and irssi right now
[03:53] <wibou> I've got some madness about SSH and/or Term and character encoding... anyone to help?
[03:54] <singlesun1> nickrud, you live in here dont you?... lol
[03:54] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, ati.com has the drivers
[03:55] <singlesun1> anything interesting going on?
[03:55] <bod_> singlesun1, please stay on-topic
[03:55] <Pyro> hello, its me again. i have ubuntu server installed in vmware as i like to run multipal os/s on one decent computer. unfortunatly i accidentally gave it a 8gb hard drive. since then i have increased the size to 40GB but i need to know how to format and mount the rest of the partition on the /var/www folder..
[03:55] <singlesun1> bod_, what is the topic?
[03:55] <Shadow147> well Arbitrary well most people think linux is easier than windows
[03:55] <bod_> singlesun1, support -- for general banter #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:56] <mcisbackuk> I've just upgraded to the Hardy alpha, is there any reason the colours are wrong, i.e. blue titlebar when the rest of Ubuntu is themed brown/orange??
[03:56] <dreamnid> pyro: sudo fdisk
[03:56] <dreamnid> pyro: or use gparted
[03:56] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, when did the hardy alpha hit? and how is it?
[03:56] <Arbitrary> Shadow147, linux is way easier than Windows
[03:56] <bod_> Shadow147, i would disagree, windows is extremely noob friendly, my nan can use it, if i gave my nan ubuntu it would take me weeks to teach her how to use it,. and years to teacch her it well
[03:56] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: theres nearly 4 alphas lol its been out ages
[03:56] <dreamnid> mcisbackuk: I have the same thing - but I think they're working on a visual refresh
[03:57] <Pyro> i dont know how
[03:57] <Pyro> i am quite new to cmd line linux
[03:57] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, is it stable? and better than gutsy?
[03:57] <Arbitrary> Shadow147, but if you are doing advanced things, they are advanced no matter what
[03:57] <mcisbackuk> dreamnid: OK, just thought it was an error in the upgrade that I missed
[03:57] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: is there not one in the repos? I hate to be a pain, but could you send me a link for them, i can't navigate atis website in lynx at 640x480
[03:57] <peanuts132> how do i replace the ubuntu symbol with my own on the taskbar
[03:57] <dreamnid> singlesun1: It is sorta stable, but not production ready yet
[03:57] <pppoe_dude> which wm does KDE use?
[03:57] <bod_> mcisbackuk, probably because its not finished yet,. alpha is lots of bugs, beta is most bugs fixed, release is all known bugs fixed
[03:57] <Big-E> singlesun1: Alpha is before beta..ever hear of beta-TESTING?
[03:57] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: It's an alpha, I would suggest unless you are a developer/packager to stay with Gutsy 7.10, at least until Beta
[03:58] <Pyro> BRB
[03:58] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, hang on, what ATI card do you have?
[03:58] <singlesun1> dreamnid, thanks man...
[03:58] <bod_> peanuts132, good question,.,.let me no if u find an answer
[03:58] <singlesun1> Big-E, mcisbackuk yes of course, was just asking a question ...
[03:58] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: ati mobility, i wanna say its x1300, something like that
[03:58] <Big-E> I was just giving an answer, singlesun1.
[03:58] <singlesun1> Big-E, with attitude :P
[03:58] <Shadow147> well Arbitrary well I tinkered with linux in vmware for awhile and once I got my own computer I wanted to run it using native hardware
[03:58] <Arbitrary> ok kyleBAKED, hang on just a minute
[03:58] <mcisbackuk> Not everyone here is linux orientated lol
[03:58] <nickrud> singlesun1: not really, but I do keep this open and swing by when I'm working :0
[03:58] <bod_> Big-E, singlesun1, please try and keep it polite guys
[03:59] <singlesun1> nickrud, good to see you either way
[03:59] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: when i installed feisty it worked with the restricted driver, but i just install fluxbuntu 7.10 and i only have vesa
[03:59] <mcisbackuk> Anyway, I'm in a good mood, anyone need anything sorted? lol
[03:59] <bod_> nickrud, do you no where the information for the graphics in the taskbar is locaed?
[03:59] <nickrud> bod_: graphics in the taskbar?
[04:00] <bod_> nickrud, top left of ur screen,.,. ubuntu logo
[04:00] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, is it a mobility radeon for laptops, or a desktop?
[04:00] <peanuts132> i think its just the ubuntu icon
[04:00] <mcisbackuk> ubutnu icon
[04:00] <ushimitsudoki> bod_: here is a half-way fix I just tried: remove "splash" from the GRUB parameters. The boot process will be text, but the monitor "signal not present" message is avoided. Not perfect if you want the splash, but it addresses part of the problem at least
[04:00] <peanuts132> ill try and edit it
[04:00] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: laptop
[04:00] <Arbitrary> hang on
[04:01] <bod_> ushimitsudoki,  the graphics is what i want but thanks,. thread will be up momenteraly
[04:01] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: inspiron e1505 dell, i think its x1300 or x100 or something like that, i can't remember off the top of my head
[04:01] <bod_> ushimitsudoki, up
[04:01] <mcisbackuk> I also get the monitor syncing, even in Hardy, I believe they're working on a fix for the next release for this.
[04:01] <Shadow147> Arbitrary so I hunted down a partitioner and I found Gparted made my ext3 FS downloaded and burned ubuntu 7.10 iso and I have been very happy ever since
[04:01] <ushimitsudoki> bod_: link? I'll post too
[04:02] <thechris> How can i determine what to set the kernel init_ramfs line to?
[04:02] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: its x1300, just checked
[04:02] <bod_> ushimitsudoki,  :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4220516
[04:02] <Shadow147> Arbitrary and I was getting tired of windows BULL with Videos and Audio software
[04:02] <thechris> is it based on initrd.gz?
[04:02] <Arbitrary> thanks kyleBAKED, downloading now
[04:02] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: you can send me a link and ill wget
[04:02] <singlesun1> Shadow147, what has your general opinion been of your learning curve on Linux? and what resources have you utilized in learning?
[04:03] <mcisbackuk> Is everyone in MOTU asleep?
[04:03] <nickrud> bod_: gconf-editor , search (ctl-f) for custom_icon , search in key names also
[04:03] <mage> mcisbackuk: I didn't think the masters of the universe slept
[04:04] <bod_> nickrud,  cheers,.il have a play
[04:04] <mcisbackuk> Has a fix been released for flash yet?
[04:04] <singlesun1> mage, lol... that was a great toon
[04:04] <bod_> nickrud,  can u pass that on to peanuts132
[04:04] <Shadow147> singlesun1 well I wanted to run programs differently I learned file chmod when I had a site that used *nix servers
[04:04] <mcisbackuk> I know I'm one of them, but no-one seems to be awake in the channel lol
[04:04] <RequinB5> where is sources.list ...
[04:04] <mage> mcisbackuk: blah blah blah md5? theres a deb available but I dont know why its not released
[04:04] <cbeck> mcisbackuk: what was borked with it?
[04:04] <nickrud> peanuts132: gconf-editor , search (ctl-f) for custom_icon , it will appear in menu bar and some other places.
[04:04] <mage> mcisbackuk: its in the bug entry though
[04:04] <badkitty> hey nickrud
[04:04] <singlesun1> Shadow147, i see, did you use something as a learning manual?
[04:05] <nickrud> badkitty: hi there
[04:05] <thechris> anyone know what to set ramdisk_size to
[04:05] <nickrud> mage: because it won't work with konqueror
[04:05] <mcisbackuk> Yeah, although I think it's a problem with there being another break problem if it's commited for Konqueror (Kubuntu)
[04:05] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, calm down, I'm preparing the file on my server, I will let you know
[04:05] <bod_> nickrud, searching gives an error ,.,. pattern not found
[04:05] <thechris> or what the ramdisk_size option means?
[04:05] <nickrud> bod_: you need to check the search in key names option
[04:05] <mcisbackuk> ramdisk_size option is virtual ram used at boot time
[04:05] <mage> nickrud: oh THAT problem
[04:06] <Pyro> (gparted:6488): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:06] <nickrud> mage: still ;(
[04:06] <Pyro> (gparted:6488): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:06] <bod_> nickrud, cheers
[04:06] <thechris> I'm wondering if this is the reason I can't install ubuntu without a CD
[04:06] <peanuts132> cool
[04:06] <mcisbackuk> have you tried acpi options?
[04:06] <Shadow147> singlesun1 well mostly trial and error I wanted to see how most of my windows apps would have a linux version
[04:06] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: i thought you were going to download it and send it to me via irc
[04:06] <nickrud> !equivalents | Shadow147 (you may have found this already)
[04:06] <ubotu> Shadow147 (you may have found this already): A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:07] <singlesun1> Shadow147, haha... i see... was just curious
[04:07] <RequinB5> where is my sources.list
[04:07] <bod_> nickrud,  i dont really no what im looking for,.,.
[04:07] <singlesun1> oh... very nice... LOL... i will bookmark that
[04:07] <kyleBAKED> RequinB5: i think /etc/apt
[04:07] <mcisbackuk> its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <bod_> yes
[04:08] <nickrud> bod_: look for menu_bar for example, in the left pane. You would give the path in custom_icon , and check use_custom_icon
[04:08] <RequinB5> thx
[04:08] <singlesun1> anyones thoughts on best firewall to use for ubuntu?
[04:08] <mcisbackuk> RequinB5: No problem.
[04:08] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Why do you want a firewall?
[04:08] <mcisbackuk> It's linux
[04:09]  * Pyro is getting annoyed with ubuntu..
[04:09] <benanzo> I use an SSH SOCKS proxy when browsing the web on a public wifi hotspot, when I tell Pidgin to use my proxy none of the services will connect
[04:09] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, I
[04:09] <bod_> nickrud, ok buttons clicked,. now how do i set the icon to be one of my picttures?
[04:09] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, I am downloading it to my server, and I will give you the link
[04:09] <mcisbackuk> benanzo: Have you told it to connect through the correct port for SSH?
[04:09] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: okay, awesome thanks
[04:09] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, because i dont know any better, and it sounds like something ive always had to use
[04:09] <benanzo> I start my proxy with: "ssh -ND 9999 user@MyHomeComputer"
[04:10] <Pyro> can anyone SSH into my server and mount a volume for me please.
[04:10] <Pyro> i really cant work this out
[04:10] <nickrud> bod_: change the path  in  custom_icon
[04:10] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i switched from windows to ubuntu not long ago, so im still in the "figuring this out" phase
[04:10] <Shadow147> nickrud I also wanted to have an already built in programable enviroment unlike windows
[04:10] <nickrud> bod_: or add the path that is
[04:10] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I take it you've come from Windoze? If that's the case, you will learn as well an I did that you don't need one.
[04:10] <nickrud> Shadow147: yeah :)
[04:10] <bod_> nickrud, how?
[04:10] <benanzo> web browsing works fine when I point FF to SOCKS 5 localhost:9999
[04:10] <Shadow147> singlesun1 I also wanted to have an already built in programable enviroment unlike windows
[04:10] <benanzo> but IRC/AIM/MSN etc don't work
[04:10] <nickrud> bod_: have you found the custom_icon key?
[04:11] <bod_> benanzo, use aMSN
[04:11] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, how so? an opened port is an opened port right? and you have to control the traffic right? set program allowances... etc.?
[04:11] <bod_> nickrud, i have ticked the use_custom_icon  box if thats what u mean
[04:11] <mcisbackuk> benanzo: I know that Pidgin Windows version has problems with proxy servers, could also be a bug here
[04:11] <benanzo> I like Pidgin a lot and it should work, I think it's the port mappings that are the problem
[04:11] <nickrud> bod_: ok, now look further up in the right pane, you'll see a key custom_icon
[04:12] <Shadow147> nickrud singlesun1 also what I like that that even though I need package for compiling they were small and easy to find
[04:12] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Yes, but by default the iptables are set for normal desktop users, and even if a prot IS open, unlike windows, no-one can do anything without root
[04:12] <bod_> nickrud, got it ,. if i double click on it,. i can ebter a value
[04:12] <nickrud> bod_: yes
[04:12] <bod_> nickrud, should i enter a file path?
[04:13] <nickrud> bod_: yes
[04:13] <bod_> ok
[04:13] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, hmmm.... any suggestions for me to get a handle on Linux... text recommendations?...  it seems a largely different character than winblows
[04:14] <kyleBAKED> singlesun1: honestly, you won't be too lost on ubuntu, just read some guides as issues arise and you'll as you go along
[04:14] <bod_> nickrud, done,. but i dont think anythings changed,.,. wot icon did i just change?
[04:14] <kyleBAKED> learn*
[04:14] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, be patient, prolly an hour or so
[04:14] <Shadow147> well once wine gets better I may just go full linux
[04:14] <preacher> how do i log out to terminal (no xserver) to install nvidia driver-i did sudo init 1 but that killed almost everything
[04:14] <singlesun1> kyleBAKED, i would like to know that ins and outs of this OS though...
[04:15] <fragged> ubuntu has too many u's to type fast =(
[04:15] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: If you really *want* a firewall I would say your best bet is guarddgo, which you can find in Synaptic, just enable the universe repositories (do this by System > Admin > Software Sources)
[04:15] <mcisbackuk> *guarddog
[04:15] <nickrud> bod_: depends. what is highlighted in the left pane, that will tell you. Could be a drawer or a menu icon.
[04:15] <chaosrl> does anyone know how to fix a broken notification area?
[04:15] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: if you sent me the direct link to the file from the ati site i could just get it from there
[04:15] <mcisbackuk> !guarddog | singlesun1
[04:15] <ubotu> singlesun1: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:15] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: and you wouldnt have to wait on me
[04:15] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, im correct to assume that firestarter is just a GUI for the iptables? right?
[04:15] <bod_> nickrud, menu_bar
[04:15] <benanzo> Fixed it.  Pidgin doesn't adhere to Gnome's proxy settings for some reason.  Just set a custom SOCKS 5 proxy per account and it will work
[04:15] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Exactly
[04:15] <chaosrl> it shows all of the icons of the things that i have open, but i when i right click, it opens the menu for th enotification tray, and not the application. left click lets me drag the notification area around.
[04:15] <nickrud> bod_: then you changed the menu bar icon. try killall gnome-panel , that will cause the menu bar to reload
[04:16] <cbeck> singlesun1: Have you ever used a command line interface before? Cygwin or the like?
[04:16] <benanzo> which is kind of a pain if I have several accounts and must do that each time I want to use them
[04:16] <radetsky> does anyone know of a media player which can play multiple subtitle tracks at once?
[04:16] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, hang on then
[04:16] <singlesun1> cbeck, i have messed with it a little ... yes... downloaded the java flash... and a few apps for this.... using term
[04:16] <mcisbackuk> benanzo: Can you file a bug on this in Launchpad, so MOTU can check this with upstream?
[04:16] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, here it is: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[04:16] <bod_> nickrud, ok smart*** how do i get them back now,.,.,.,.;)
[04:16] <Shadow147> radetsky I would use vlc
[04:17] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Java and Flash using terminal??? not in Ubuntu surely?
[04:17] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yes
[04:17] <benanzo> mcisbackuk: yes, I'm going to investigate it a bit more and file it
[04:17] <rodolfo> how do i figure out my mesa version? can anyone answer?
[04:17] <bod_> gnome-panel
[04:17] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Oh dear lol ..... ermmm next time use synaptic ;) If you want all the flash and java for firefox, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:17] <nickrud> bod_: they should have restarted automatically.
[04:18] <bod_> nickrud, i have no panels!
[04:18] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i even had the 64 bit edition earlier... but it caused too much problems with java and flash.... lol... so i switched back to 32
[04:18] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Although there are problems with Flash at the mo
[04:18] <Shadow147> mcisback singlesun I was able to get flash and java working easily
[04:18] <nickrud> bod_: alt-f2 , login, then type   DISPLAY=":0"  gnome-panel &
[04:18] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, when i ran it through synaptic it wouldnt work right, when i installed flash and java that way... so i installed through term and no problem
[04:18] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: ty so much
[04:19] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, havent had a problem with it since then
[04:19] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Fair enough, but seriously for new users, using the preconfigured interface is better, since synaptic will know what to upgrade, so  would suggest you install ubuntu-restricted-extras as well just in case, as a fallback :)
[04:19] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, although im not very impressed with firefox and im thinking about switching to a different browser
[04:19] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: are those for 64 bit? i see the x86_64 in the url
[04:19] <preacher> help- how do i log out to terminal (no xserver) to install nvidia driver-i did sudo init 1 but that killed almost everything
[04:19] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Have you tried Opera?
[04:20] <Arbitrary> so I use a laptop with an ATI X1100 gpu, and when I start up from the battery, the screen fades out to complete white when X loads...when I'm on the AC adapter everthing works fine.  Any ideas?
[04:20] <mcisbackuk> preacher: Alt+F1
[04:20] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, no i havent i saw it was rather fast though on browser comparisons
[04:20] <mcisbackuk> preacher: To return Alt+F7/F8
[04:20] <curkill> hi
[04:20] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i can sudo apt-get install opera right?
[04:20] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, it is for both
[04:20] <preacher> i did alt+f1 but that doesn't kill x
[04:20] <Arbitrary> X86 and X86_64bit
[04:21] <mcisbackuk> CTL ALT F1 sorry
[04:21] <mcisbackuk> and F7 to return to X
[04:21] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Yes you can
[04:21] <curkill> i have a acer aspire 5920g where can i find ubuntu drivers
[04:21] <techgeek40> Okay - I have installed the XP drivers and wrapper - but I still (after following directions) can't seem to get my netgear WG511 v2 (PCMCIA) adapter to work - it's not showing up in the network
[04:21] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, you use Opera?
[04:21] <mage> preacher: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:21] <mcisbackuk> curkill: What drivers are you looking for?
[04:21] <bod_> nickrud, nothing has chnaged,.,.,. but i had to reboot to get my panels  bak !!!grrr!!!
[04:21] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: No, Firefox
[04:22] <preacher> thanks!!
[04:22] <mcisbackuk> preacher: You're welcome! :)
[04:22] <curkill> nvidia 8600m gt
[04:22] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, hmmm.... what is uninstall command for a program from terminal?
[04:22] <avis> curkill, with good luck your hardware is supported by the linux kernel
[04:22] <Arbitrary> curkill, I also have an acer, what drivers are you looking for?
[04:22] <mcisbackuk> curkill: Have you tried the restricted drivers manager?
[04:22] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: sudo apt-get remove XXX
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> i'm guessing he's looking for sound drivers.
[04:23] <curkill> no, ill give it a try
[04:23] <radetsky> Shadow147: I ruled out VLC early b/c I couldn't get it to play .mkv files properly (they're all fuzzy). Is this easy to resolve?
[04:23] <mage> mcisbackuk: ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't kill X, which is what he asked about...
[04:23] <nickrud> bod_: system->prefs->session, check the gnome-panel in the second tab, make sure its set to restart
[04:23] <mcisbackuk> mage: Oops lol Close enough :P
[04:23] <mage> radetsky: fuzzy like jpeg artifact or fuzzy like woah gotta stop drinking?
[04:23] <techgeek40> Okay - I have installed the XP drivers and wrapper - but I still (after following directions) can't seem to get my netgear WG511 v2 (PCMCIA) adapter to work - it's not showing up in the network
[04:23] <mage> mcisbackuk: not if you're trying to mess with ATI drivers :p
[04:23] <techgeek40> I should say ndiswrapper
[04:23] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, you havent had issues with firefox crashing? it likes to hang from time to time and im sure its not a hardware issue, ... the other day it hung up and i could not xkill it because it wasnt there to kill
[04:24] <mcisbackuk> mage: been there, done that, stuck with fglrx lol
[04:24] <radetsky> mage: like double-fisting everclear for several hours nonstop
[04:24] <bod_> nickrud, yes it is,.,. dw bout it m8, im not bothered,. cheers anyway
[04:24] <nickrud> bod_: strange that.
[04:24] <bod_> nickrud, be back in a bit
[04:25] <mage> huh decoding shouldn't do that, are you sure of the quality of the file you're trying?
[04:25] <radetsky> mage: it works fine in gxine & mplayer
[04:25] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: No, I've had no problems, bar 1 but that was my fault. System>Admin>System Monitor shows you running processes and any you can right click and kill process that way, its easier I find
[04:26] <radetsky> although, interestingly, vlc figures out how to merge the subtitle tracks automatically, where gxine and mplayer do not
[04:26] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i wasnt aware of that utility... i searched and searched... and ended up settling on htop.... lol
[04:26] <NetEcho> anyone here have experience with Ubuntu on a Ps3?
[04:27] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: lol Don't worry it's all a learning curve, like using Pc's to start with
[04:27] <mcisbackuk> NetEcho: Wish I could say I HAD a PS3!
[04:27] <kyleBAKED> Arbitrary: i can't thank you enough, im about to get into a gui now, brb
[04:27] <NetEcho> mcisbackuk yea me too
[04:28] <NetEcho> I'm trying to help a bud of mine out
[04:28] <mcisbackuk> lol
[04:28] <mcisbackuk> !ps3
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <mcisbackuk> !sony
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <NetEcho> does Ubuntu have a package management system?
[04:28] <mcisbackuk> hmm....
[04:28] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yeah its a crazy learning curve.... and i dunno what im doing... LOL.... so ive been trying to find a decent book to study on Linux... im going to college for PC's and all the classes are Windows based
[04:28] <mcisbackuk> NetEcho: have you tried http://wiki.ubuntu.com ? anything on there
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> NetEcho: System/Admin/Synaptic Package Manager
[04:28] <radetsky> singlesun1: find a better college
[04:29] <NetEcho> k so it doesn't use apt-get?
[04:29] <Shadow147> NetEcho | !synaptic
[04:29] <NetEcho> !synaptic
[04:29] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:29] <radetsky> NetEcho: yes, it does
[04:29] <NetEcho> ok
[04:29] <NetEcho> that makes this uber easy then
[04:29] <mage> stop using the damn bot :p
[04:29] <peanuts132> my desktop looks exactly like die hard 4
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> NetEcho: synaptic is a graphical front end of apt-get
[04:29] <Arbitrary> kyleBAKED, no problem, nothing like proper drivers eh,
[04:29] <radetsky> synaptic is a frontend to apt-get afaik
[04:29] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, its pretty depressing really because now i have no interest in windows anymore since Vista came out...... any suggestions on a real good book to give me a decent knowledge of Linux... etc
[04:29] <NetEcho> apt-get is simple
[04:29] <co_gokil> woi
[04:29] <mage> kyle left
[04:29] <NetEcho> I used to use Debian
[04:29] <Shadow147> mage can it the bot is usefull for when finding stuff
 apt-get is OMGAWESOMELOLOLOLOLOL << fixed
[04:30] <bazhang> !cn > bazhang
[04:30] <Shadow147> NetEcho ubuntu is Debian Based
[04:30] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I'll admit I'm fluent on windows, but since Sh**sta (plz don't boot), its fell, and I will laugh the day everyone flocks to linux ;) But best thing for you is this IRc channel, the wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/) and the communtiy documentation on the website :)
[04:30] <mcisbackuk> There's always people that can help!
[04:30] <NetEcho> yea wasn't' sure if they used their own system for packages tho
[04:30] <nano_> LOL
[04:31] <mage> Shadow147: most of the time someone answers me with the bot, what the bot says doesn't help any :)
[04:31] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, well then i need to just idle in this channel,,,, but i dont wanna keep asking a million stupid questions... LOL... and looking up "how to do this.... that... and the other thing" on google... makes me feel like im never learning anything
[04:31] <Shadow147> singlesun1 mcisbackuk I use Windows still for when I do other things and play other games
[04:31] <mcisbackuk> NetEcho: Ubuntu uses Debian packages, and installs them with apt-get, and Synaptic is the graphical frontend to the whole process making it dead easy!
[04:32] <scott_> Got an issue...every DVD I try to play (both encrypted and non) show a garbled pink screen.  This just started happening...it was working _fine_.  The same result in VLC, mplayer, and Totem.  I have libdvdcss2 installed.  I've installed a few things since it was working but none of them related to DVDs.  Any ideas?
[04:32] <RequinB5> I need to get a .deb package and place it on my liveCD... Is there a simple way to do this
[04:32] <mcisbackuk> Shadow147: Same.
[04:32] <radetsky> singlesun1: that's how you learn
[04:32] <NetEcho> yea apt is gonna make solving this problem much easier
[04:32] <Shadow147> mage well anytime I someone sendme a message from the bot it helps me
[04:32] <mcisbackuk> scott_: Use synaptic and download ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:32] <techgeek40> I should say ndiswrapper
[04:32] <RequinB5> Its teh getting the specific file, not putting it on the CD :p
[04:32] <techgeek40> Okay - I have installed the XP drivers and wrapper - but I still (after following directions) can't seem to get my netgear WG511 v2 (PCMCIA) adapter to work - it's not showing up in the network
[04:32] <radetsky> singlesun1: that's how Alan Turing got started
[04:32] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Don't worry about it, everyone starts somewhere
[04:32] <mage> singlesun1: I've been using linux for many years and I still occasionally use google, but then I have an idea of what im using for so I can make it the first result ;)
[04:32] <singlesun1> Shadow147, i have vista on the other half of this HD... xp on my laptop.... and xp on my wifes computer... LOL... unforntunately i would abandon them... but i need to use Visual Studio to do programming in
[04:32] <Shadow147> mcisbackuk well anytime I someone sendme a message from the bot it helps me
[04:33] <Muhammad> i have problem setting my keyboard layout using setxkbmap command i got a message in terminal " Couldn't find rules file (xorg) " where i can find that rules file to set properly in the correct path ?
[04:33] <RequinB5> Anyone know how i can get a specific .deb file i need from the main repository...
[04:34] <Shadow147> singlesun1 year
[04:34] <singlesun1> radetsky, mcisbackuk mage yeah i hear that... but i think im on google trying to figure stuff out more than im doing anything else... i just wish there was a "step by step" guide to learning this stuff
[04:34] <grampa> singlesun1: I've found that gedit is a good programming environment :)
[04:34] <mcisbackuk> Didn't you try using the graphical frontend in system>prefs>keyboard
[04:34] <mage> Muhammad: can you paste the command? assuming its not too too long
[04:34] <Shadow147> RequinB5 what deb file
[04:34] <radetsky> singlesun1: there is. you can find it on google.
[04:34] <Muhammad> mage its setxkbmap -layout "us,ar" -option "grp:alt
[04:34] <danbhfive> RequinB5: just use your browser, and go to the repo
[04:34] <Muhammad> alt_shift_toggle*
[04:34] <RequinB5> Shadow147 - driver for my vid card
[04:34] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: The problem with step by step guides is that they are linear, you learn in stages, but if you wanted a certain thing, you'd be stumped....
[04:34] <RequinB5> danbhfive - url?
[04:35] <radetsky> RequinB5: apt-get --download-only or something
[04:35] <Shadow147> RequinB5 what brand is your video card
[04:35] <cbeck> mcisbackuk: that's what apropos is for
[04:35] <singlesun1> grampa, can you save things in different "year versions" of the Visual Basic.net ... .vls... or whatever it is?
[04:35] <danbhfive> RequinB5: archive.ubuntu.com
[04:35] <RequinB5> Shadow147 - i know what the file is, just can't look it up right now
[04:35] <mcisbackuk> !apropos
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apropos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <techgeek40> Does anyone know if there is a good motor cross (motorcycle) game(s) designed for Gutsy?
[04:35] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol, true.... that does make sense
[04:35] <bazhang> x-moto
[04:35] <mcisbackuk> techgeek40: xmoto?
[04:35] <NetEcho> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?     <-- what would cause that when you're logged in as root?
[04:35] <RequinB5> danbhfive: thx, i'll check that
[04:36] <techgeek40> JOkay - let me try
[04:36] <bazhang> !info xmoto
[04:36] <ubotu> xmoto (source: xmoto): 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-1 (gutsy), package size 1023 kB, installed size 2828 kB
[04:36] <mcisbackuk> NetEcho: Another packager running
[04:36] <Shadow147> RequinB5 what brand of video card it is
[04:36] <danbhfive> NetEcho: having synaptic on, and running apt-get
[04:36] <NetEcho> ah
[04:36] <RequinB5> Shadow147 - Geforce 6600 GT (AGP)
[04:36] <grampa> singlesun1: I have no idea what that means, I'm not a MS/Visual developer
[04:36] <Shadow147> RequinB5 eg oh ok Nvidia
[04:37] <RequinB5> Buggiest vid card i've ever seen
[04:37] <scott_> mcisbackuk: Thx, it worked!
[04:37] <mcisbackuk> scott_: You're welcome :)
[04:37] <Shadow147> RequinB5 | !find Nvidia
[04:37] <Shadow147> RequinB5 and use the restriced drivers
[04:37] <singlesun1> grampa, lol well that is why i still have to use winblows because i have to do alot of programming using .NET framework for college
[04:37] <mcisbackuk> that worked lol
[04:37] <danbhfive> !ot
[04:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:38] <RequinB5> Shadow147 - i already told you i know the file name....
[04:38] <RequinB5> and directoryt
[04:38] <RequinB5> but thx :P i've got to go
[04:38] <Shadow147> RequinB5 ok come back soon
[04:38] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: better off dual-boot, i used linux for years, i still got xp other side of hd
[04:39] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: At least until Wine works flawlessly ;)
[04:39] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i have vista on the other side of this as well.... so its kinda annoying
[04:39] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, then my other class i have to use XP... so i have to pull out my laptop... LOL
[04:39] <techgeek40> Okay - I downloaded three of them - games - they have the .deb extention - shouldn't I be able to use synaptic to install them?
[04:39] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Well there IS a way to run both at the same time using Xen, but it's EXTREMELY complicated and you need Dual Core processor
[04:39] <Shadow147> mcisbackuk singlesun I am dual-booting XP/Linux and I am happy with the setup
[04:40] <bazhang> techgeek40: downloaded from where?
[04:40] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i have a dual core... 64 bit amd
[04:40] <mcisbackuk> techgeek40: Double click and use GDebi to install (default installer)
[04:40] <bod_> techgeek40, double click on them,. download manager sorts out all my .deb files
[04:40] <techgeek40> http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=mit
[04:40] <mcisbackuk> brb all
[04:40] <Deagol> I just installed beryl it was working fine and I changed the settings and now it wont show the maximize close out buttons anyone have an idea?
[04:40] <bod_> Deagol, do you mean compiz?
[04:40] <bazhang> Deagol: which version of ubuntu
[04:41] <Deagol> im on gusty gibon
[04:41] <poomonkey> i need help with starcraft and wine
[04:41] <bazhang> !compiz | Deagol
[04:41] <ubotu> Deagol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:41] <poomonkey> does any one know anything
[04:41] <techgeek40> Installing now - thank you:>
[04:41] <bod_> poomonkey, #wine
[04:41] <poomonkey> o my bad
[04:41] <bazhang> #winehq actually
[04:41] <bod_> dw
[04:41] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, this allows you to run a microsoft os? like xp or vista within ubuntu? xen?
[04:42] <bod_> bazhang, sorry,. it redirects i think
[04:42] <techgeek40> now if I could get my netgear wireless adapter working I'd be thrilled
[04:42] <techgeek40> <---got desktop working great - laptop - working great - except netgear not working (tear drop)
[04:42] <bod_> techgeek40, not my strong point im afraid
[04:42] <bazhang> singlesun1: another option is virtualbox or vmware-server; fewer hardware requirements
[04:43] <singlesun1> bazhang, freeware?
[04:43] <bod_> yes
[04:43] <bazhang> aye
[04:43] <singlesun1> nice
[04:43] <techgeek40> bod: every web site I've tried gives about ten different solutions - but none of them have worked - and I k now the adapter works - tested just before I installed gutsy and it worked
[04:43] <compy> anyone using openbox?
[04:43] <techgeek40> NOW one of the sites says to install Ubuntu with the netgear on - but that means a reinstall and I'm not that far gone to do that
[04:44] <danbhfive> techgeek40: so you tried ndiswrapper?
[04:44] <mcisbackuk> !xen | singlesun1
[04:44] <ubotu> singlesun1: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[04:44] <danbhfive> techgeek40: i think there are listings for wireless adapters on how to get them working
[04:44] <techgeek40> danbhfive: Yes, I installed that
[04:44] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, thx
[04:44] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: No prob
[04:45] <Geoffrey2> actually, on my laptop I'm running it the other way. virtual box on top of XP, with ubuntu running inside virtual box
[04:45] <techgeek40> I've tried to find them - <shrug> but so far no luck - most are for dapper or fiesty - fawn - whatever they are - but none for gutsy
[04:45] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, everything else has been pretty easy to get used to... flash/java was a pain.... my messenger is jacked up though... i can send files... just cant receive
[04:45] <bod_> Is there any way of loading Nvidia drivers before loading ubuntu?
[04:45] <danbhfive> techgeek40: whats the card name?
[04:46] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i tried to use both pidgin and kopete...
[04:46] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I use MSN with Pidgin with no problem...
[04:46] <bod_> singlesun1, try aMSN
[04:46] <poomonkey> there is no one in the wine channels willing to help i know this is off topic but i am on ubuntu i need help with starcraft and wine
[04:46] <bod_> poomonkey, pm me,. i might be able to help
[04:46] <techgeek40> Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless PC Card - WG511 v2 (PCMCIA)
[04:46] <danbhfive> hey guys, this is a support channel, can you move your conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:47] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ im using the yahoo side though.... i will send files... but it says... "user cancelled file transfer" when people try to send to me
[04:47] <CVD> me  Oracle Before but now i dont now wich one of this: MySQL or Postgre?
[04:47] <bod_> singlesun1, try using wine to install yahoo messenger
[04:47] <astyler> I have a question that was unhandled in #mythbuntu: the only 64bit distribution shown is listed as AMD64, does this mean there is no 64bit distro for intel chips?
[04:47] <bod_> danbhfive, we will
[04:47] <EdgEy> astyler,  amd "created" the instruction set
[04:48] <mcisbackuk> techgeek40: The problem is the cards firmware see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28731
[04:48] <EdgEy> amd64 is just a fancy way of saying x86-64 really
[04:48] <singlesun1> bod_, hmmm... what about using that old unix version of yahoo messenger... i dont even have wine on here
[04:48] <astyler> and intel uses the same instruction set?
[04:48] <EdgEy> yes]
[04:48] <astyler> ah excellent
[04:48] <astyler> thanks EdgEy
[04:48] <bod_> singlesun1, id sugest the new one, get wine, its good
[04:48] <techgeek40> mcisbackuk: Okay - doing tha tnow
[04:49] <singlesun1> bod_, alright i will check it out real quick... im not sure on how wine works... i havent even dl'd it
[04:49] <scott_> astyler: yes, typing this on a intel Q6600 running Gutsy AMD64
[04:49] <astyler> I have another general ubuntu/linux question, can I install both a Gnome and KDE desktop environment and switch between them?
[04:49] <jbroome> astyler: yes
[04:49] <bod_> singlesun1, if you have wine, you can install loadsa wiindows stuff (not that you'd want to)
[04:49] <mcisbackuk> astyler: yes you can
[04:49] <astyler> Thanks
[04:50] <singlesun1> bod_, lol... then its not really linux based is it... LOL
[04:50] <mcisbackuk> mcisbackuk: If you're running Ubuntu, install kubuntu-dekstop, or vice versa
[04:50] <mcisbackuk> astyler: ^^
[04:50] <bazhang> haha
[04:50] <bod_> singlesun1, yer,. but some people complain that they wont switch because they wont have msn and stuff,. so some clever dudes made wine
[04:50] <mcisbackuk> lol hey its 4:50am I have an excuse lol
[04:50] <bazhang> true :]
[04:51] <scott_> singlesun1: I just installed it for the first time.  Within an hour I have several apps including office 2003 running
[04:51] <astro76> exit
[04:51] <bod_> scott_, have you thought of using openoffice instead?
[04:51] <singlesun1> bod_, lol... well if kopete would just let me receive files i would be fine.. lol...
[04:51] <bod_> singlesun1, lol
[04:51] <scott_> bod_: Yep, I use both
[04:51] <bod_> scott_, u prefer which?
[04:51] <mcisbackuk> scott_: OpenOffice is fully compatible with Office 2003
[04:52] <singlesun1> bod_, if i could fix it
[04:52] <bod_> mcisbackuk, and 2007
[04:52] <mcisbackuk> bod_: Yup :
[04:52] <mcisbackuk> )
[04:52] <scott_> ROFL, no it is not _fully_ compat, but it is great for simple compat. jobs
[04:52] <bod_> singlesun1, reinstall it,. make sure no encryption, stuff like that
[04:52] <bod_> mcisbackuk, and its free
[04:52] <singlesun1> other thing that sux is... i have another class that requires me to use the Microshaft Office package.... so i still have to rely on the microsoft stuff for this class
[04:52] <mcisbackuk> scott_: Well close enough, and not £100+
[04:52] <bod_> mcisbackuk, oh microsoft really is gonna die out in 10 years time
[04:53] <scott_> this is not the fault of OOO... MS hasn't release their specs.  OOO did a great job, but there is still a need for Office for complex doc compat.
[04:53] <bod_> singlesun1, you can install MS office through wine
[04:53] <poomonkey> bod how do i register
[04:53] <compy> which one do you suggest openbox or fluxbox and why?
[04:53] <mcisbackuk> bod_: I've got my fingers crossed, as soon as M$ release specs for Office's xml document language, we're off, they already f****ed up with Vista
[04:54] <singlesun1> bod_, so are you saying that i could basically throw away my vista partition completely... and i could run Visual Studio running the .NET framework as well? as Office Suite?
[04:54] <bod_> mcisbackuk, OMFG have u tried finding the run command line in vista>
[04:54] <scott_> mcisbackuk: agreed, XML makes it much more possible than the old binary formats
[04:54] <bod_> >*?
[04:54] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Not too sure about .NET
[04:54] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yeah that has been my worry
[04:54] <scott_> bod_: Start->R
[04:54] <patogen> compy: Openbox, faster and generally nicer ;)
[04:54] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, that is why i had to reinstall vista... which was a real annoyance.
[04:54] <patogen> compy: Openbox + xfce4-panel = teh win
[04:54] <bod_> singlesun1, yes,.
[04:55] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I know for a fact Visual Studio Express has a few teething problems in Wine
[04:55] <bod_> scott_, tried finding the actual shortcut?
[04:55] <jbroome> bod_: does winkey-r not work anymore?
[04:55] <scott_> Vista crashed during my Pre-SP1 update...so I took the plunge.
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> ShiftyPowers: what a great series tat was.
[04:55] <compy> patogen, nice thats what i got now and am working on configing it
[04:55] <mcisbackuk> scott_: LMAO typical
[04:55] <jmantra> mcisbackuk, do you know of any .NET IDEs for linux?
[04:55] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yeah im running vis studio express.... and it has teething problem in microshaft to begin with... LOL
[04:55] <bod_> jbroome, i mean the actual shortcut, that is always in the start menu,. is no longer there by default because MS think no one uses it
[04:55] <patogen> compy: I only wish you could set xfce4-panel to smaller than 16 pixels ...
[04:56] <mcisbackuk> jmantra: I can't help on that, I'm not that into Windows developing sorry :(
[04:56] <joanki> is evolution the best email client for ubuntu?
[04:56] <compy> oh hehe
[04:56] <bod_> joanki, no
[04:56] <compy> yeah
[04:56] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: This is true..
[04:56] <astyler> hmm, it would appear that installing #mythbuntu would ease my transition to linux (less use of a terminal to setup mythtv), can I install a KDE desktop ontop of a mythbuntu (sorry, the #ubuntu-mythtv channel is dead)
[04:56] <bod_> joanki, personal preference, i use thunderbird
[04:56] <patogen> astyler: Of course you can
[04:56] <joanki> does thunderbird have a calendar?
[04:56] <bod_> joanki, i believe u can add one yes
[04:56] <johnficca> how do I use the new ipod shuffle with my ubuntu???
[04:57] <mcisbackuk> joanki: Yes, there are several plugins available for addons at http://www.mozilla.com/
[04:57] <bod_> johnficca, drag and drop,.,. same as always,.,. or install itunes through wine
[04:57] <jmantra> joanki, there is always sunbird and evolution has a calendar built in
[04:57] <joanki> bod_, why dont u like evolution?
[04:57] <jmantra> in fact evolution is exactly like MS outlook
[04:57] <joanki> also, should i use IMAP or pop?
[04:57] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, one other issue is that my mp3 player is not recognized by ubuntu... its a Phillips GoGear 30gig
[04:57] <bod_> joanki, i never said that,. i just said thunderbird was better
[04:57] <mcisbackuk> OK....this is TOTALLY off-subject, but does anyone know if QTraX is going to be ported to Linux natively??
[04:58] <jmantra> joanki, it depends on waht you're server usues
[04:58] <johnficca> bod_: but my rhythmbox wont stay open now...it just crashes
[04:58] <jbroome> joanki: depends on your email host
[04:58] <jmantra> most likely pop
[04:58] <joanki> gmail
[04:58] <joanki> but gmail supports both
[04:58] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Gimme a sec I'll look it up :)
[04:58] <joanki> bod_, do u mind telling me why?  sorry and thanks
[04:58] <bod_> johnficca, unrelated,.,.lol,.,. what did u do
[04:58] <NET||abuse> Hello all,, i have been trying to get my security settings on my wifi router off wep onto wpa, and have realised over the 15 configurations that i tried that ubuntu would not connect to the network in 802.11g only mode, it had to be set to mixed g/b mode, does that mean that ubuntu will not perform at g levels? my wifi card is a BCM4318
[04:58] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i gave it a shot.. but i plug it in and it does nothing, however my usb is recognized because my flash drives all work fine... etc
[04:59] <bod_> joanki, the unbelievable amount of addons that mozilla supports is the key factor for me
[04:59] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: They will be, quick scan in forums, some work some don't, so what model number you got?
[04:59] <bazhang> NET||abuse: it will still go for the max rate
[04:59] <joanki> sold
[04:59] <joanki> how do i get it!
[04:59] <NET||abuse> bazhang, but why does it need the mixed g/b mode?
[04:59] <bod_> lol
[04:59] <bod_> joanki, sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[04:59] <joanki> and seriously, bod_ is IMAP or pop better f??? i have gmail?
[04:59] <jmantra> bod_ for me personally I like evolution because it's exactly like outlook, i used outlook at work and i loved it
[04:59] <bod_> joanki, i use pop
[04:59] <bazhang> which router NET||abuse
[04:59] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, phillips gogear 30 gig
[05:00] <joanki> bod_, do you use gmail?
[05:00] <NET||abuse> bazhang: it's an old bufallo WBR2-G54S
[05:00] <bod_> jmantra, i would deliberately not use it because its like outlook,. microsoft alert!!!
[05:00] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, hdd6330/17
[05:00] <bod_> joanki, dont need to, i have thunderbird
[05:00] <drambuie> you can use imap-gmail in thunderbird
[05:00] <joanki> and also, bod_ , if you do, how do you get it from putting all your sent mail into your inbox??? i hate that
[05:00] <joanki> but you need a server....???
[05:00] <joanki> drambuie, is imap better than pop?
[05:00] <NET||abuse> bazhang, 2.30 firmware, i can't find any firmware online for it anymore, 2.30 seems to be the latest, 2.50 seemed to be a fable
[05:00] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: OK 1 sec
[05:00] <scott_> Since everyone has been so helpful.... another q.  Running AMD64 Gutsy and my clock is falling behind in a serious way.  Losing about 15 minutes every few hours.  I've used the clock applet to add NTP synching, but it doesn't appear to work (probably not synching often enough).  Any thoughts why the clock is losing so much time?
[05:00] <bod_> joanki, do you mean how do u get it to put all your stuff in ur inbox,.,. theres a get mail button
[05:01] <joanki> drambuie, also, how do you get it from putting all your sent mail in your inbox?
[05:01] <shrug> how do i mount a different ubuntu partition on same drive
[05:01] <joanki> no bod_ with gmail, they group your emails, right?
[05:01] <bazhang> NET||abuse: see if it will still get the max rate--not used a buffalo so no help in that regard
[05:01] <joanki> so whenever i hit send/receive, ALL emails get put into inbox
[05:01] <bod_> joanki, no idea,. never used it
[05:01] <bod_> joanki,  no u have to press the button
[05:01] <joanki> one last thing bod_ how do i get addons for thunderbird
[05:01] <shrug> !ot
[05:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:01] <NET||abuse> bazhang, will have to do an smb file transfer , have some movies on the network terastation
[05:02] <drambuie> joanki, i haven't seen that problem  - gmail will create a different inbox for gmail
[05:02] <bod_> shrug, how is ubuntu email clients OT?
[05:02] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, if it was recognizing it... it would show in the device manager.. but it doesnt
[05:02] <NET||abuse> just not hooked up,, i'll do it tomorrow,, i just wanted to see what the deal was with that,, lost 2 hours to this stupid settings
[05:02] <bazhang> shrug not really ot
[05:02] <joanki> weird drambuie all my sent mail gets putinto my inbox
[05:02] <bod_> joanki,  from mozilla,.,. cant remember exatly,.,. google mozilla addons
[05:02] <NET||abuse> anywa.. need 3 hours sleep
[05:02] <NET||abuse> gnight :)
[05:02] <drambuie> :/
[05:02] <bod_> night
[05:02] <scott_> any ideas on my clock issue?
[05:02] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I can't seem to find much, if anything on the GoGear.... I've come across http://tuxmobil.org/player_linux_survey_philips.html maybe that could help?
[05:03] <bod_> scott_, check your daylight saving time is checked on
[05:03] <shrug> bod bazhang, i was trying to go to OT :P
[05:03]  * NET||abuse 's head drops cold on the keyboard "afjjjjhghrrrrrr"
[05:03] <bazhang> shrug: you have two different ubuntu installs on the same machine
[05:03] <bod_> shrug, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <bod_> shrug, ok no probs
[05:03] <shrug> bazhang, yes, one ubu-studio
[05:03] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i will check into it.. i plug it in .. and the one music player pops up... but it does not list it as a device... etc
[05:03] <bazhang> shrug you can message the bot
[05:03] <shrug> other is gutsy
[05:03] <smapti> ...anyone know how to make an Airlink101 AWLH6080 pci card work
[05:04] <smapti> ?
[05:04] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Does it come up in Computer?
[05:04] <bazhang> shrug just choose which one you want from the grub menu at startup
[05:04] <drambuie> joanki, i learned howto setup my gmail imap box from http://www.howtogeek.com
[05:04] <shrug> bazhang... there is an error, i just want to mount the partition, so i can run a program i have on the other partion
[05:04] <smapti> ndis doesn't do the trick
[05:04] <scott_> bod_: how do I check?  Not in the applet?  That would make it lose minutes every hour?
[05:04] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, nope...
[05:04] <VvWolverinevV> whats the best solution for combining separate video and audio files into a single video file?
[05:05] <joanki> drambuie, thanks!
[05:05] <shrug> bazhang, i thought there was something that detects patitons and lets you mount them
[05:05] <bazhang> shrug: which program--you can enable the ubuntustudio repos for gutsy and install it on gutsy side
[05:05] <bod_> scott_,  im not sure,. check in ur system bios
[05:05] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Then it's a kernel module.....basically not supported.....open a terminal and type lsusb tell me what you get in pm
[05:06] <shrug> bazhang, i have vmware installed with windows on it, but i cant get x work for some reason, or GDM, so i just want to run it from this patition
[05:07] <scott_> Getting tons of messages like this in dmesg (doesn't sound good).. I think this must be related to my loss of time issue???: [188807.693769] rtc: lost some interrupts at 512Hz.
[05:07] <scott_> [188807.713729] rtc: lost some interrupts at 512Hz.
[05:07] <bazhang> shrug: you cant get it to work on ubuntustudio?
[05:07] <pepinillo> hi
[05:07] <pepinillo> all
[05:07] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, did that message go through?
[05:07] <shrug> bazhang, ubuntu studio wont load
[05:07] <shrug> bazhang, blue screen of death type stuff going on
[05:07] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Nope nothing, if you're using Pidgin or XChat, double click my name in list
[05:07] <bazhang> shrug: doesn't really answer my question though
[05:07] <shrug> bazhang...
[05:08] <bazhang> Im here shrug
[05:08] <shrug> bazhang,  x doesnt work on ubuntu studio, for some reason unknown....
[05:08] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, its not doing anything man... i dont think PM's work
[05:08] <joanki> gonna try it!!!!
[05:09] <bazhang> shrug: then install vmware-server on gutsy
[05:09] <shrug> bazhang, so i need to run VBox from gutsy
[05:09] <shrug> bazhang, i need this tonight, and i do not have a windows disc handy
[05:09] <shrug> bazhang, temp fix
[05:09] <shrug> bazhang, college homework
[05:10] <bod_> shrug,  whats the prob?
[05:10] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Get that?
[05:10] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i think PM is disabled man
[05:10] <shrug> bod_, i simply need to mount a partition to get access to files
[05:10] <bod_> !register | singlesun1
[05:10] <ubotu> singlesun1: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:10] <bazhang> shrug: best to fix ubuntustudio problems--what you are proposing is way more difficult if even possible
[05:10] <supersako> any software programmers using ubuntu? im wondering if i should switch to it
[05:10] <theAtom> when does new version Ubuntu come out?
[05:10] <theAtom> is 7.10 the latest version?
[05:10] <bod_> shrug,  kk hang on
[05:10] <bazhang> plenty supersako
[05:10] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ my bad.... didnt register ;)
[05:11] <Jakoo> can someone tell me why i cannot import a csv file into evolution?
[05:11] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ paste it into there then
[05:11] <shrug> bod_ ty
[05:11] <theAtom> Jakoo, lol ;)
[05:11] <bazhang> hardy will come out in april theAtom
[05:11] <Jakoo> wy lol?
[05:11] <bod_> shrug, what sort of partition is it?
[05:11] <theAtom> is 7.10 the latest version, or is there a new one?
[05:11] <Jakoo> why?
[05:11] <theAtom> bazhang, not till April????
[05:11] <shrug> its ubuntu.... so ext3 i think
[05:11] <bod_> theAtom, yes,. latest full version,. hardy is released in alppha stage
[05:11] <bazhang> latest theatom is 7.10
[05:11] <theAtom> ok cheers
[05:12] <bod_> !mount | shrug
[05:12] <ubotu> shrug: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:12] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, ok i pasted it... now what?... lol
[05:12] <bod_> !GNOME
[05:12] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:12] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: give me the link
[05:12] <mcisbackuk> lol
[05:12] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53838
[05:13] <Jakoo> apparently i cannot import a csv file into evolution i a wondering whats wrong
[05:13] <bod_> mcisbackuk, thats so annoying when that happens
[05:13] <bod_> mcisbackuk, lol
[05:13] <bazhang> bod_: just a suggestion; you can keep a window open with the bot and /msg ubotu keyword
[05:13] <Jakoo> may i have a suggestion how to do it?
[05:14] <bod_> bazhang, ive got one,. sorry in the message ubotu gave about partitions it mentiuoned ! gnome   so i thought it might have info about mounting partitions in gnome environment,.,. my bad
[05:14] <mcisbackuk> bod_: whats that?
[05:14] <scott_> I'm reading that the "server" kernel will most likely solve my clock issue (which is based on the kernel losing interrupts it seems) based on some posts on the web.  What is the technical diff between generic and server kernels?  Can I just use synaptic to install server and deinstall generic and reboot?
[05:14] <bod_> mcisbackuk, made a pastebin ~(no link)
[05:14] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: No luck I'm afraid :( Needs a proprietary driver, which Philips haven't released....
[05:15] <bazhang> Jakoo: ubuntuforums and google turned up nothing? is this your first stop?
[05:15] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, well that sux
[05:15] <mcisbackuk> bod_: Yeah, but hey lol
[05:15] <MasterShrek> scott_, what kind of clock issues are you having?
[05:15] <bod_> mcisbackuk, lol
[05:15] <MasterShrek> scott_, the desktop kernel by default has an ondemand cpu frequency governor, it clocks down the frequency of your cpu when its not in use
[05:15] <scott_> MasterShrek: rtc: lost some interrupts at 512Hz
[05:15] <singlesun1> bod_, hell if i know man, i never used a pastebin before.. LOL
[05:15] <Jakoo> i have tried nothing significant
[05:15] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Its either....buy an iPod LMAO or stick with windows for transferring stuff and then access sda1 to pull into Ubuntu
[05:16] <bazhang> Jakoo: no idea never use evolution
[05:16] <MasterShrek> hmm scott_, never seen something like that, its worth a shot to try to use the server kernel, if it doesnt work u can always go back tot he desktop
[05:16] <elbermungsterses> hi guys, i have a serious problem. i need to find the root trash directory
[05:16] <scott_> MasterShrek: posts say it is due to VMWare guest having more demanding timing requirements than my kernel is set for
[05:16] <bod_> singlesun1, lol,.,. yer, its probably important to tell people where u put information ,.,.lol,.,.,. just something to keep in mind for the future,.,.
[05:16] <Jakoo> :(
[05:16] <soldats> singlesun1, what was your issue
[05:16] <quaal> is there a way i could set my nfs shares to automatically mount once my wifi connection is established
[05:16] <bod_> singlesun1, what is your problem?
[05:16] <Jakoo> its ok thanx anyway
[05:16] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, well i sure wont buy and ipod cuz i paid almost 300 when it came out...
[05:16] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Sod that, I went to tesco lol
[05:16] <pteague> anybody know which package i need for the jeos kernel headers?
[05:17] <scott_> MasterShrek: So it sounds like then my system would draw more power?  Right now all 4 cores are clocked at 1.6GHz vs. 2.4
[05:17] <bod_> mcisbackuk, lol
[05:17] <PoGz> hello guys
[05:17] <soldats> elbermungsterses, locate .trash in terminal
[05:17] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, tesco?
[05:17] <bazhang> pteague: the distro GeOS?
[05:17] <PoGz> how do i install anjuta 2.2.3 on my gutsy computer?
[05:17] <mcisbackuk> soldats: An mp3 storage device unsupported by the kernel requiring propietary drivers which aren't available.
[05:17] <bod_> singleITS A SHOP
[05:17] <singlesun1> soldats, mp3 player isnt supported by ubuntu
[05:17] <bod_> singlesun1, its a shop
[05:17] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Major UK supermarket chain.
[05:17] <MasterShrek> scott_, the clock speed should go up when the cpu's are being used
[05:17] <soldats> singlesun1, ahh
[05:17] <bod_> singlesun1, yes,. i have one it works fine
[05:17] <soldats> just windering:P
[05:17] <singlesun1> bod_, mcisbackuk aha.... never been to the uk
[05:18] <pteague> bazhang> no, ubuntu-jeos ...  for virtual servers
[05:18] <elbermungsterses> how do you do that, soldats?
[05:18] <bod_> singlesun1, tesco = supermarket
[05:18] <singlesun1> bod_, lmfao
[05:18] <scott_> MasterShrek: But if server doesn't have the frequency govener I'm thinking they'll be 2.4 all the time? (and thus suck more power?)
[05:18] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Lucky you! You're not missing much.
[05:18] <bod_> mcisbackuk, what about all the hot wheather weve been having !!!!!!!! lol
[05:18] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, well, my family is from Gordon, Scotland but moved to the usa sometime ago
[05:18] <lymeca> How can I play BIK videos on Ubuntu?
[05:19] <bod_> singlesun1, im scottish, ur a traitor ,.,. KILL!!!
[05:19] <mcisbackuk> bod_: Oh yeah.....I remember that, about 3 weeks ago during the snow........... lol
[05:19] <pteague> i'm trying to install the vmware tools & i'll have to compile from source... which needs the kernel headers
[05:19] <MasterShrek> scott_, its quite possible the server kernel is set to the performance governor, i dont konw for sure though
[05:19] <bod_> mcisbackuk, no, during the hurricane on my walk to school
[05:19] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ gordon is outside of kelsh.. do you know it?
[05:19] <erichj> Bik video....as in the format that blizzard used to encode video from their older games?
[05:19] <MasterShrek> pteague, open synaptic and search for kernel headers
[05:19] <mcisbackuk> :S
[05:19] <soldats> elbermungsterses, open a terminal ant type "locate .trash" then open nautilus and nav to the dirs it tells you
[05:19] <bod_> singlesun1, no,. im scottish but ive in england
[05:19] <singlesun1> bod_, traitor... lmfao
[05:20] <bod_> lol
[05:20] <mcisbackuk> bod_ singlesun1: best ton it down before we get flamed fo rnot using off-topic ;)
[05:20] <bazhang> please join #ubuntu-geography ;]
[05:20] <bod_> mcisbackuk, good point
[05:20] <scott_> MasterShrek: Ok, I'll give it a try.  So I just literally install the server kernel and deinstall generic and synaptic will take care of the rest of the booting stuff?
[05:20] <soldats> elbermungsterses, i think its in ~/.local/share/Trash
[05:20] <bod_> bazhang, so funny,.,.only one problem,.,. theres no one there
[05:20] <mcisbackuk> bazhang: LOL...please join #ubuntu-community-means-community :P hehe jk
[05:20] <bazhang> haha
[05:21] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, good point ;) so i suppose this mp3 player is junk ... unless i just keep transferring everything via flash drive from vista part to ubuntu partition
[05:21] <pteague> MasterShrek> synaptic isn't available via the cli or ssh
[05:21] <MasterShrek> scott_, dont uninstall the default kernel, youll just have a different option in grub after you install the server kernel, but remember you wont have access to restricted modules with the server kernel
[05:21] <bod_> mcisbackuk, dont be silly,. thatd oesnt exist (i was stupid enought to try nd join it)
[05:21] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, brb have to make a phone call real quick to find out if i need to pick up my wife
[05:21] <bazhang> apt-cache search pteague
[05:21] <MasterShrek> pteague, good call, i cant exactly remember the name of the package
[05:21] <bod_> singlesun1, nah,. leave her there
[05:21] <MasterShrek> !find headers
[05:21] <ubotu> Found: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-386, linux-headers-generic, linux-headers-server (and 28 others)
[05:21] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: For now at least, yes, until someone comes up with something. Might be an idea to file a bug again this as a request for some sort of kernel module?
[05:22] <mcisbackuk> bod_: Agreed. lol
[05:22] <bod_> lol
[05:22] <rodolfo> newbie question: what's the difference between X.org and X window system?
[05:22] <bod_> mcisbackuk, she's got legs,. mae her walk
[05:22] <mcisbackuk> !linux-headers-generic | MasterShrek
[05:22] <scott_> MasterShrek: Oh...that is a showstopper then.  So no nvidia restricted driver?
[05:22] <mcisbackuk> bod_: lol
[05:22] <bod_> rodolfo, x.org is a file and x windows is wot ur looking at
[05:23] <MasterShrek> scott_, you wont be able to istall it through synaptic, but you can do it manually from nvidia's website (thats how i always do it anyway)
[05:23] <rodolfo> bod_: hmm...and how do i figure out my X.org current version?
[05:24] <bod_> rodolfo, why would you want to do that?
[05:24] <mcisbackuk> what do you need that for?
[05:24] <Shadow147> scott_ there are Nvidia Restricted Drives
[05:24] <pteague> already installed linux-kernel-devel... hmm...  guess i should install linux-headers-2.6.22-14-virtual
[05:24] <mcisbackuk> and i believe its 7. something atm
[05:24] <bazhang> 7.3
[05:24] <bazhang> or 1.3
[05:25] <mcisbackuk> ty baz
[05:25] <mcisbackuk> :)
[05:25] <singlesun1> bod_, if i left her there... who would cook?....lol
[05:25] <manlymatt83> Anyone around?  Just installed ubuntu.  Working fine except for the fact that it takes about 3 minutes to boot.
[05:25] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: The microwave?
[05:25] <bod_> singlesun1, very good point,.,. how about pizza hut
[05:25] <Shadow147> scott_ | !find nvidia
[05:25] <manlymatt83> after it says Loading Grub... it just goes to a blank screen for 3+ minutes
[05:25] <scott_> MasterShrek: ok, after more reading it sounds like 1) This is specific to running VMWare 2) There are a few "band-aid" solutions with this kernel (use a VMX entry to stop VMware from checkign the clock so much) 3) Real solution is using High Performance Event Timer (need to do more reading)
[05:25] <rodolfo> bod_: because I need to build DRI and it requires X.org (core and dev packages)...
[05:25] <manlymatt83> and then X/gnome appears
[05:25] <manlymatt83> any ideas?
[05:25] <bod_> rodolfo, its probably got them
[05:25] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ lol... the microwave cooked all day today... and i ate some fast food earlier... lol
[05:25] <mcisbackuk> manlymatt83: Did you choose correct version for your processor?
[05:26] <scott_> Shadow147: I have nvidia driver running...my q was in ref to the 'server' kernel and whether it would still work
[05:26] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ i will be back in like 15 mins or so... then we will talk about this bug report... lol
[05:26] <bod_> singlesun1, ask ur mum to bring some round
[05:26] <rodolfo> bod_: fine, and how do I do then?
[05:26] <Shadow147> scott_ ok
[05:26] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: sure, if I'm still awake lol
[05:26] <Conky> manlymatt83: thats not an unreasonable amount of time, what did you want to happen?
[05:26] <bod_> rodolfo, i dunno,.,. dunno wot DRI is
[05:26] <bod_> !dri | rodolfo
[05:26] <ubotu> rodolfo: dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[05:26] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol alright... thx man... tty shortly if you dont crash.. lol
[05:27] <rodolfo> .......
[05:27] <manlymatt83> mcisbackuk: ?
[05:27] <mcisbackuk> yup :)
[05:27] <bod_> rodolfo, do you no what your doing?
[05:27] <rodolfo> bod_: yes...amm not sure.
[05:27] <manlymatt83> well, there was an instruction for my t42 to do apt-get install linux-686
[05:27] <manlymatt83> but that doesn't work
[05:27] <mcisbackuk> manlymatt83: Are you using 32/64 bit? i.e. intel p3/p4, dual core, amd athlon/zp/64???
[05:27] <bod_> rodolfo, what do u think ul echieve by having this DRI thing?
[05:27] <grahams1> !<xorg>
[05:28] <bod_> !xorg
[05:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:28] <rodolfo> bod_: dude...it's complicated to explain
[05:28] <mcisbackuk> manlymatt83: t42??
[05:28] <bod_> rodolfo, then i cant help
[05:28] <bazhang> rodolfo: try us
[05:28] <rodolfo> bod_: well I tell you then... =P
[05:28] <grahams1> !<T60>
[05:28] <bod_> rodolfo,  good
[05:29] <bod_> !t60
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about t60 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <mcisbackuk> !t42
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about t42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <lancer> Hey - can someone please tell me of an IRC room where I can ask about 3D animation in Maya?
[05:29] <bod_> grahams1, ubotu wont no anything u put in bracets
[05:29] <bazhang> grahams1: you can message the bot in a private window /msg ubotu keyword
[05:29] <rodolfo> bod_: i have an intel 915, which has poor performance when running openGL-based-apps, (e.g. games, BMA, etc)
[05:29] <mcisbackuk> lancer: #maya3d or #maya i think
[05:29] <bod_> rodolfo, ok
[05:29] <lancer> thanks - I searched "maya" and came up wioth nothing
[05:29] <mcisbackuk> rodolfo: You will do it's bog standard grpahics processor
[05:30] <slyboots> Is Kubuntu covered in here as well?
[05:30] <bod_> slyboots, #kubuntu
[05:30] <bazhang> #kubuntu
[05:30] <mcisbackuk> lancer: coulda swore I saw one earlier...sorry
[05:30] <slyboots> Thanks
[05:30] <rodolfo> you didn't get it
[05:30] <bastid_raZor> slyboots; #kubuntu and #kubuntu+1 for KDE4
[05:30] <bod_> rodolfo, you have a rubbish processor, how can we helpthat
[05:30] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 actually
[05:30] <slyboots> bastid_raZor, You sure about that? there is no +1
[05:31] <mcisbackuk> bod_: lol
[05:31] <bod_> lol
[05:31] <bazhang> topic in #kubuntu slyboots
[05:31] <bastid_raZor> bazhang; thanks.. did not know it was #kubuntu-kde4
[05:31] <slyboots> Never mind, there is a link to the correct one in the topic
[05:31] <slyboots> Thank you all.
[05:31] <compy> whats a good editor... ie gedit leafpad etc?  thats gui
[05:31] <bazhang> np
[05:31] <bod_> compy,  vim
[05:31] <mcisbackuk> compy: gedit
[05:31] <compy> is leafpad good?
[05:32] <bazhang> gedit is fine
[05:32] <bod_> dunno never use it
[05:32] <bod_> vim & gedit i use
[05:32] <rodolfo> bod_: take a look a this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53839/
[05:32] <lancer> found #maya  - thanks
[05:32] <crdlb> rodolfo: what does ' glxinfo | grep direct ' say?
[05:32] <jeffMASTERflex> compy: vim, nano w/ syntax highlighting, gedit
[05:32] <mcisbackuk> lancer: ;)
[05:32] <compy> thanks all ^^^
[05:33] <mcisbackuk> Isn't the Intel 915 gfx supported by open drivers?
[05:33] <bazhang> just not enough to his liking
[05:33] <DOK_> t
[05:33] <rodolfo> crdlb: that's one of the issues I dont know how to get solved. Once upon a time, it returned 'yes' and now, it returns 'direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)'
[05:33] <crdlb> rodolfo: you're not using EXA ...
[05:34] <bod_> rodolfo, again its not are fault u have a rubbish processor,.,. but u could overclock it,. and openglx is brilliant ,. wine runs games faster then xp so does cedega,.,. its hardware related not software
[05:34] <crdlb> rodolfo: that's because you set LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT in your bashrc file ...
[05:34] <rodolfo> crdlb: did I?!
[05:34] <green-_> i thought compiz fusion was supposed to be on the live cd.. i can't even find where to change window managers
[05:34] <crdlb> rodolfo: run: unset LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT
[05:35] <bazhang> green-_: some basic stuff is
[05:35] <crdlb> green-_: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[05:35] <lancer> Damn - #maya are so quiet.
[05:35] <Freakingme> I want the imq module loaded in the kernel, for traffic shaping. Is that possible without compiling  my kernel?
[05:35] <green-_> ah, much different than before
[05:35] <rodolfo> crdlb: it worked =]
[05:35] <bod_> green-_, compiz fusion comes as an update after you enable some repo's try here,.,.https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[05:35] <mcisbackuk> Freakingme: modprobe imq
[05:35] <Freakingme> hmm, it's late :P
[05:35] <Murdock76> is this a good channel to ask about connecting a cell phone via usb?
[05:35] <rodolfo> bod_: that's exactly what he said on a previous email
[05:35] <green-_> is there a recommended list of repo's or are they already available for me to enable
[05:35] <crdlb> bod_: no it's installed by default
[05:35] <Freakingme> mcisbackuk modprobe imq\nFATAL: Module imq not found.
[05:36] <bod_> rodolfo, what is?
[05:36] <lancer> Anyone in here know Maya at all?
[05:36] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Sure why not, what phone?
[05:36] <green-_> apt-cache is returning little of what i search for.. haven't consulted sources.list yet.. i should do that
[05:36] <green-_> been a while
[05:36] <bazhang> green-_: available already
[05:36] <crdlb> green-_: for compiz fusion? it's already installed
[05:36] <mcisbackuk> Freakingme: Hmm.... Looks like a rebuild then if the module cant modprobe
[05:36] <bod_> crdlb, not in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy amd64 it isnt,.i installed today and got the download shortly after,. did not come on cd
[05:36] <green-_> apparently the driver required is not.. need to enable some repos for that
[05:36] <Freakingme> 'rebuild' as in: compiling my own kernel?
[05:36] <crdlb> bod_: no, you got updates. It's still installed
[05:37] <mcisbackuk> Freakingme: Not sure to be honest.....
[05:37] <bazhang> green-_: what driver
[05:37] <bod_> crdlb, installed but not working? ,.,. really?
[05:37] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: kyocera smartphone 7135.  gutsy version of ubuntu.  i have KPPP set with the account, now just need to get it to recognize the phone.  tethered it through the USB.
[05:37] <green-_> nvidia-glx
[05:37] <bod_> crdlb, i still had to install ccsm myself
[05:37] <Freakingme> mcisbackuk ty anyways
[05:37] <mcisbackuk> Freakingme: np :)
[05:37] <crdlb> bod_: indeed, that's in Universe
[05:37] <bazhang> green-_: on the live cd?
[05:37] <crdlb> but everything else is installed
[05:38] <drambuie> green-_, consult your restricted driver manager
[05:38] <bod_> crdlb, ah,. thats why i counted it as not installed,. because u cant really tinker untill u have ccsm,.,. thanks for educating me,.,.lol
[05:38] <rodolfo> bod_: I'm trying to find...
[05:38] <green-_> well i'm installed now, off the live cd
[05:38] <bazhang> aha
[05:38] <bod_> green-_, good stuff
[05:38] <Kuwanger> Is there any way to profile Firefox?
[05:38] <rodolfo> bod_: btw, what makes you think this is related to my software and not my hardware?
[05:39] <green-_> anything in sources.list i should bother leaving disabled?
[05:39] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Just looking now
[05:39] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: ok thx.
[05:39] <bod_> rodolfo, i think the other way around dude,. i think its the hardware not the software
[05:39] <rodolfo> bod_: oh
[05:39] <bazhang> green-_: check the first four is usually best--depends on what you need to do
[05:39] <crdlb> rodolfo: attempting to upgrade your intel driver won't fix anything
[05:40] <rodolfo> crdlb: what do you mean? this is unsolved?
[05:40] <bazhang> rodolfo: laptop or desktop?
[05:40] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Open a Terminal and type lsusb, does it show up, and if so try configuring KPPP to that port
[05:40] <bod_> rodolfo, an old processor will not be better because u have a new driver,.,.,.
[05:40] <mcisbackuk> !lsusb
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsusb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <rodolfo> bazhang: laptop. i915
[05:40] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: ok attempting now.
[05:41] <crdlb> rodolfo: did you try running a 3d app after unsetting LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT ?
[05:41] <bazhang> rodolfo: listen to the others--the limitations are in the card
[05:41] <rodolfo> i dont get it. what are you guys trying to tell me? this has to do with my processor or my vc?
[05:42] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: it shows up as bus 02 device 003
[05:42] <bazhang> gpu
[05:42] <bod_> rodolfo, you cannot expect a playstation 1 graphics card to play playstation 3 games,. so why do you expect an old processor to work amazingly with new software?
[05:42] <bazhang> graphics processor unit
[05:42] <bod_> rodolfo, processor
[05:42] <crdlb> rodolfo: your GPU isn't great, but you have LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set, which forces all 3d apps to use indirect rendering
[05:42] <rodolfo> bod_: man it's not old. this laptop isn't even 1-yo
[05:43] <mcisbackuk> rodolfo: http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/915gm/index.htm Explains itself....limitations on 3d support, including shader, etc
[05:43] <mcisbackuk> Its to keep price down, crap gfx card as standard these days
[05:43] <jedounet> salut salut
[05:43] <bod_> rodolfo, it doesnt matter if its new,. it matters how good the chip is
[05:43] <Enty|work> Hi... why is it that JFS is considerably slower when it's entering a directory than, say, ReiserFS?
[05:43] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: now how do i translate that to KPPP?
[05:43] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Hang on
[05:43] <Kuwanger> Probably a more general question to be asking is, why is Firefox using ~17% CPU time with only one tab, that tab being blank?
[05:43] <rodolfo> mcisbakuk: i am aware of the users against intel (petitiononline) and they wont listen to us
[05:43] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: alrighty
[05:43] <bazhang> hi jedounet
[05:43] <bod_> rodolfo,  new doesnt always mean better,.
[05:43] <jedounet> i thought it was ubuntu-fr!
[05:43] <rodolfo> bod_: nice
[05:44] <ArthurArchnix> rodolfo: bod_ 's point was that the chipset was old technology. Cheap and old. New laptop sure, but inexpensive because the tech involved is old.
[05:44] <ArthurArchnix> I think.
[05:44] <bazhang> yesh
[05:44] <sudobash> is there a way to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 yet?
[05:44] <bod_> ArthurArchnix, bang on ,.,. cheers for the clarification
[05:44] <Wrathtide> ok
[05:45] <bod_> sudobash, yes but hardy is only in alpha = extremely buggy
[05:45] <Wrathtide> hey everyone
[05:45] <bazhang> sudobash: early alpha expect breakage, but yeah
[05:45] <bod_> hi
[05:45] <bazhang> !hardy | sudobash
[05:45] <ubotu> sudobash: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:45] <rodolfo> ArthurArchnix: so you mean i915 is a low-end vc and it is not capable of running OGL 2.x features. is it?
[05:45] <Wrathtide> what do you guys think are recommended reads about IT security?
[05:45] <bod_> rodolfo, i think its capable just not very well
[05:46] <sudobash> April I turn 21... good to hear there will be another release
[05:46] <bod_> Wrathtide, i suggest you make it OS specific
[05:46] <sudobash> then
[05:46] <manlymatt83> Is there a way to make ubuntu actually show the boot up process and what it's doing?
[05:46] <alinon> i seem to have compiz partially configure in gutsy - my emerald themes are working and wobbly windows, but when i try to use desktop cube it doesn't work even though it's enabled
[05:46] <manlymatt83> vs just having a "wrapper" screen?
[05:46] <bazhang> bruce schneier Wrathtide
[05:46] <techqbert> wtf open office just lost one of my documents
[05:46] <crdlb> alinon: join #compiz-fusion
[05:46] <bod_> alinon, pm me if u want me to walk you through it
[05:46] <Kuwanger> Guess I'll just disable all extensions and try one by one to get it to behave badly. :/
[05:46] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Have a look in /dev/bus/usb/002 what you got there?
[05:46] <bazhang> disable splash manlymatt83
[05:46] <jedounet> Murdock76: t du havre?
[05:47] <manlymatt83> bazhang? where?
[05:47] <Wrathtide> bod_: perhaps windows security :P i mean thats what most people use
[05:47] <dreamnid> manlymatt83: if you press e on the first line, and edit the line to remove "quiet"
[05:47] <ArthurArchnix> rodolfo: That' the same card I have. It can't do much. What's OGL 2.x?
[05:47] <rodolfo> bod_: i run NFSU2, max payne 2, wow on winxp very wel with this one. so it's illogical to think that this same gpu wouldn't be capable of running OGL...
[05:47] <dreamnid> manlymatt83: when grub appears, that is
[05:47] <ouellettesr> hello, anyone know why my screensaver isn't working anymore? I use the restricted nvidia drivers, open gl is working fine. Not sure what else it could be... When my computer is idle for the set length of time the screen fades out, but screensaver does not avtivate, the desktop comes back..
[05:47] <manlymatt83> ahhh okay
[05:47] <manlymatt83> thanks
[05:47] <sudobash> they problem I am having is that i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 two weeks ago and yesterday I did an apt-get update and then upgrade and now my NVIDIA drivers stopped working... I have tried the NVIDIA-GLX-NEW drivers and they didnt work with any xorg config....
[05:47] <rodolfo> ArthurArchnix: openGL v.2 and it's variants...
[05:47] <bod_> rodolfo, different software requires different things,.,. cant talk atm im afraid
[05:47] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: 001 and 003
[05:48] <sudobash> cant play my GLX games without a good driver
[05:48] <bazhang> gnome has screensavers? ;]
[05:48] <dreamnid> manlymatt83: err, you have to remove quiet and splash
[05:48] <Enty|work> Hi... why is it that JFS is considerably slower when it's entering a directory than, say, ReiserFS?
[05:48] <rodolfo> so i won't go too far with this video card when this is all about openGL...?
[05:48] <dreamnid> manlymatt83: of course, this is temporary... if you want it to be perment, you ahve to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:48] <jedounet> sudobash: you've got an ATI gpu?
[05:49] <sudobash> NVIDIA
[05:49] <ColdFyre> what is the program that allows you to import photos when you plug in a media card from a digicam?
[05:49] <Shadow147> sudobash do you have the nvidia card driver still installed
[05:49] <sudobash> Geforce FX 5200
[05:49] <sudobash> i did but i unistalled i have the new one now.. i was using Nvidia-glx
[05:49] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: If you have a file 003 in /dev/bus/usb then this should work : "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/bus/usb/002/003 /media/usbXX" without quotes in a terminal (where XX is what you want to call it)
[05:49] <rodolfo> and in think that i've already seen i915-based-sony-vaio somewhere...
[05:49] <jedounet> sudobash: you may not use xgl if i'm right, use free or nonfree nv driver
[05:49] <sudobash> now it is Nvidia-glx-new
[05:50] <jedounet> do you ue playonlinux to play games?
[05:50] <sudobash> well X works with nv driver but not nvidia driver
[05:50] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: then point KPPP to that device (the new folder)
[05:50] <sudobash> I just play AA2.5
[05:50] <jedounet> it's such a mystery to configure this f** xorg.conf
[05:50] <mcisbackuk> brb all
[05:50] <sudobash> screw using wine or anything
[05:50] <jedounet> c ya
[05:50] <Shadow147> sudobash use the restricted drivers
[05:50] <bazhang> bye
[05:50] <sudobash> ok let me try
[05:50] <jedounet> use playonlinux it uses scripts for each game and it's contriuted
[05:51] <wims> do anyone have an idea why my soundblaster audigy isnt giving out any sound ?
[05:51] <wims> i just installed this system btw
[05:51] <sudobash> uninstall all nvidia-glx drivers?
[05:51] <jedounet> *b*rb*
[05:51] <rodolfo> bod_: if you were in my position, would you DL mesa/Xorg/DRI newest driver in order to try to get some performance?
[05:51] <BenderUnit22> wims: volume muted? Check with alsamixer.
[05:51] <bazhang> !sound | wims
[05:51] <ubotu> wims: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:51] <Shadow147> sudobash ya install the Nvidia Restricted driver
[05:51] <sudobash> i even tried the nvidia installer script from their site
[05:51] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: it says mount point /media/usb00 does not exist.
[05:51] <bod_> rodolfo, maybe.,. but a newer driver requires more power so it might be worse
[05:51] <sudobash> ok cool i will do that
[05:52] <jedounet> sudobash: it's in apt
[05:52] <PoGz> how do i install anjuta 2.2.3?
[05:52] <rodolfo> bod_: and what video card solution would you buy instead?
[05:52] <ouellettesr> hello, anyone know why my screensaver isn't working anymore? I use the restricted nvidia drivers, open gl is working fine. Not sure what else it could be... When my computer is idle for the set length of time the screen fades out, but screensaver does not avtivate, the desktop comes back..
[05:52] <sigma> does the kppp kde dialer app work in ubuntu?
[05:53] <Shadow147> sudobash and when you get done with that let me know
[05:53] <jedounet> Murdock76: make an ls -l /dev/usb*
[05:53] <rodolfo> bod_: for laptop***
[05:53] <bod_> rodolfo, dunno bout laptops but for a desktop i would go for a Nvidia card that supports 3d hardware acceleration
[05:53] <DigitalNinja> I'm running Gutsy. How do I get mp3 support for Amarok?
[05:53] <jbroome> !mp3 > DigitalNinja
[05:53] <bazhang> PoGz: that is a more recent version then in the repos; any reason to do so?
[05:53] <DigitalNinja> jbroome: ?
[05:54] <jedounet> sudobash: i don't recommand to do like that but there's a python tool called envy who install you drivers automatially, if you are not skilled you may doi like that
[05:54] <_xyz> anyone know how to set up a gprs usb modem on a pc for wireless internet (nearly) anywhere in the world?
[05:54] <bazhang> read the pm from the bot DigitalNinja
[05:54] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Create that folder and try putting a / on the etc of the media/usbXX/ <<like that
[05:54] <Wrathtide> !fonts
[05:54] <rodolfo> bod_: i wish i could force the vc to stole more memory from the system. is there any command to do this?
[05:54] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:54] <jedounet> _xyz: type lsusb and send me a print
[05:54] <DigitalNinja> bazhang: I don't see it
[05:54] <manlymatt83> hmmm
[05:55] <bazhang> !envy | jedounet sudobash
[05:55] <ubotu> jedounet sudobash: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:55] <manlymatt83> removing quite didn't work
[05:55] <_xyz> jedounet, i dont have a gprs usb modem yet, i'm just researching the entire operation. could you explain how it would all go?
[05:55] <manlymatt83> its stil sitting at a blank screen for 4 minutes
[05:55] <manlymatt83> before loading x
[05:55] <jbroome> man the bot commands have gotten complext since i was in here last
[05:55] <bazhang> _xyz: off topic for this channel
[05:55] <sudobash> i know how to edit Xorg configs and such but the driver says that there is not Nvidia Kernel present meaning the GPU
[05:55] <sudobash> i think
[05:55] <bod_> rodolfo, err,.,. u can overclock your processor to run twice as fast,. but ul need a cooling system in there to stop it from blowing up
[05:55] <DigitalNinja> jbroome: got it! Thanks
[05:56] <sudobash> synaptic says i have the linux-restricted modules 2.6.22.14- 386 version
[05:56] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: create a /usb00 folder in /media you mean?
[05:56] <linux_user400354> what kernel version comes with ubuntu 7.10 iso and whats the latest version available for ubuntu in the repos?
[05:56] <jedounet> _xyz ask google the modem you are thinking a read a forum when someone like you was looking fore a gprs modem (i always do like that i learned linux in a few time) ask google, remember heis your riend
[05:57] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Yes. I'm not sure if it'll work, but its worth a try, all its doing is pointing the device file to mount to a set folder.
[05:57] <bazhang> uname -r in the terminal linux_user400354
[05:57] <linux_user400354> bazhang: not currently at an ubuntu machine
[05:57] <mcisbackuk> 2.6.24
[05:57] <rodolfo> bod_: you misunderstood me. the dmesg | grep -i agp command returns "agpgart: Detected 7932K stolen memory." can i increase this value?
[05:57] <linux_user400354> mcisbackuk: latest available or included with 7.10 iso?
[05:57] <jedounet> it the same on all distro linux_user400354
[05:57] <_xyz> jedounet, thanks. i just couldn't really find anything good.. yet
[05:58] <jedounet> the command uname
[05:58] <bod_> rodolfo, i doubt it,. unless you can program bios systems
[05:58] <mcisbackuk> linux_user400354 current Gutsy kernel
[05:58] <sudobash> ok i used the restricted driver manager to install the nvidia drivers
[05:58] <bazhang> 2.6.22-14 is 7.10 linux_user400354
[05:58] <rodolfo> bod_: aww x_x'
[05:58] <jedounet> _xyz: what's the matter, did i help you?
[05:58] <linux_user400354> jedounet: i dont want to know what the latest available kernel is for another distro. i want to know what the latest one that was packaged for ubuntu is.
[05:58] <mcisbackuk> type uname -r in a terminal window to find what one you're running
[05:58] <sudobash> says i need to restart do i need to edit xorg at all?
[05:58] <jedounet> just let apt-get dist-upgrade do it?!
[05:59] <bazhang> linux_user400354: see above
[05:59] <linux_user400354> no, im not typing uname -r. im not at an ubuntu machine. the latest packaged for another distro isn't nessarily the same.
[05:59] <rodolfo> man this is so disappointing....
[05:59] <jedounet> sudobash: make a cp of your xorg before
[05:59] <sudobash> right
[05:59] <mcisbackuk> linux_user400354: the LATEST Ubuntu kernel is 2.6.24-5, but that's development fork for Hardy
[05:59] <linux_user400354> bazhang: okay thanks
[05:59] <jedounet> and in a term type the command of your driver that automake a new xorg
[05:59] <linux_user400354> im asking about 7.10
[05:59] <sudobash> but is there any changes that need to be made beside the nv to nvidia?
[05:59] <Flannel> linux_user400354: Newest for gutsy is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/metapackages/linux-generic
[06:00] <mcisbackuk> !kernel
[06:00] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[06:00] <rodolfo> thank you guys for your help. I really appreciate it.
[06:01] <sudobash> a useful bash script:
[06:01] <sudobash> #!/bin/bash
[06:01] <sudobash> clear
[06:01] <sudobash> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[06:01] <sudobash> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <FloodBot1> sudobash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <ouellettesr> hello, anyone know why my screensaver isn't working anymore? I use the restricted nvidia drivers, open gl is working fine. Not sure what else it could be... When my computer is idle for the set length of time the screen fades out, but screensaver does not avtivate, the desktop comes back..
[06:01] <mcisbackuk> sudobash: Naughty naughty, the bot's watching you!! lol
[06:01] <sudobash> lol
[06:02] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: now it reads: /dev/bus/usb/002/003 is not a block device
[06:02] <sudobash> ok lets see if this restricted driver works... brb
[06:02] <jedounet> ouellettesr: maybe mk2fs.ext3 :p
[06:02] <monzie> hi all.!
[06:03] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: if it's not one thing it's another eh?
[06:03] <ouellettesr> jedounet: what??
[06:03] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Then it can't be mounted via usb, have you Googled for it, try "<device model> +ubuntu OR +linux"
[06:03] <monzie> help please. MySQL fails to come up if i do a sudo apt-get install mysql
[06:03] <jedounet> just joking man
[06:03] <abz> hello everybody .  ..
[06:03] <jedounet> hi
[06:03] <jedounet> howayU?
[06:04] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: i tried google and came up with little which prompted me here.
[06:04] <ouellettesr> jedounet: oh I get it. ahahahhahaha
[06:04] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: i think there is another command where i set the address i found with that usb command you had me use.
[06:04] <abz> can u help me?
[06:04] <jedounet> sorry i don't know if i have a good english, and it's becoming late
[06:04] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: :( What exactly is it you're trying to do? Sync it?
[06:04] <abz> my english is bad too:(
[06:04] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: no i'm trying to use it as a dial up modem for use when i'm not on wireless.
[06:04] <bod_> anyone no of a good video format converter?
[06:05] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: i know how to hotsync it.
[06:05] <ouellettesr> jedounet: maybe if you ate some more cottage cheese with maple syrup that would help
[06:05] <jedounet> abz: where are you from
[06:05] <ouellettesr> :P
[06:05] <unop> bod_: ffmpeg and mencoder
[06:05] <abz> i come from indonesia . .
[06:05] <jedounet> ouellettesr: are you canaian?
[06:05] <jedounet> k
[06:05] <bod_> unop,  ive tried both but cant work out how to use either
[06:05] <ouellettesr> jedounet: nope im canine
[06:05] <bod_> unop,  wiki anywherre?
[06:05] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Ahh....ermmm.....do you have a windows driver to do the same, because you could use ndiswrapper and use the windows driver......possibly
[06:06] <breanna> hi there.. could anyone help me wuick an easy question ><
[06:06] <jedounet> don't know about it what's that?
[06:06] <mcisbackuk> !ndiswrapper | Murdock76
[06:06] <ubotu> Murdock76: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <jedounet> we all are here for helping sir
[06:06] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: that's an idea.  kyocera has a windows driver for it.
[06:06] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, bod_ warning... im back... lmfao
[06:06] <bod_> singlesun1, ahh,.,.quick,.,.hide
[06:06] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: Good luck then ;)
[06:06] <jedounet> for wireless use ndiswrapper don't complicate
[06:06] <manlymatt83> ugh
[06:06] <singlesun1> bod_, lol
[06:06] <manlymatt83> I still don't understand why this isnt' working
[06:06] <Murdock76> mcisbackuk: i'll reasearch that route.  thanks for the help. :)
[06:07] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Oh dear.....I'm suddenly feeling rather tired........ lol ;)
[06:07] <breanna> I was wondering how I could install flash and javascript so youtube can work?
[06:07] <mcisbackuk> Murdock76: You're welcome.........and gone
[06:07] <mcisbackuk> lol
[06:07] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol... uh huh... drink some coffee.. lol
[06:07] <mcisbackuk> hehe
[06:07] <supersako> whats this ubuntu ultimate? anyone here use it?
[06:07] <ouellettesr> hello, anyone know why my screensaver isn't working anymore? I use the restricted nvidia drivers, open gl is working fine. Not sure what else it could be... When my computer is idle for the set length of time the screen fades out, but screensaver does not avtivate, the desktop comes back..
[06:07] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Right remind me.....where were we?
[06:07] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, hey you know if there is any decent visual IP trace progs?
[06:07] <jedounet> breanna: ask google about flash-player-nonfree that's the way i got it working
[06:07] <green-_> ok .. had to install a bunch of new stuff, finally got enhanced visual effects enabled
[06:07] <unop> bod_: the best wiki is the manpage - but it's quite big - essentially with ffmpeg you just do - ffmpeg -i input.file output.file
[06:08] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: ermmmmm.........thinking
[06:08] <bod_> unop, legend cheers
[06:08] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, something a lil more gui based than a "whois"
[06:08] <green-_> but i can't tell what it's done :) .. where's all the good old compiz/beryl stuff i remember ... the cube based virtual desktop, all the window effects, etc
[06:08] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: xt?
[06:08] <bazhang> ccsm green-_
[06:08] <mcisbackuk> !xt | singlesun1
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <singlesun1> green-_, lol that is funny, i just finished getting the cube working the other day
[06:08] <glick> excuse me does anyone have ubuntu working with a linksys wireless G router?
[06:09] <green-_> ccsm?
[06:09] <mcisbackuk> !ubotu=useless
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <glick> im tring to get my laptop working with it
[06:09] <mcisbackuk> lmao
[06:09] <green-_> singlesun1: the cube was awesome :)
[06:09] <bazhang> !ccsm | green-_
[06:09] <ubotu> green-_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[06:09] <jedounet> glick: are you pluggd in ethernet?
[06:09] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, xt? lol... i since ubotu is tricking i will check it out
[06:09] <unop> bod_: in some situations you might want to tweak things like bitrate, resolution, etc as the defaults are not always the best -- thats when you need the manpage
[06:09] <glick> jedounet, no through the wireless
[06:09] <singlesun1> green-_, i also suggest expo... expo is pretty nice
[06:09] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: tricking or tripping lol
[06:09] <sudobash> the restricted driver didnt work... so i had to revert to the nv driver
[06:09] <green-_> ah thans bazhang  .... what's the point in enhanced w/o that .. i notice no difference so far :)
[06:09] <bod_> unop, ok cheers m8
[06:09] <sudobash> is there something i didnt do?
[06:10] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, TRIPPING.. lmfao... my bad... lol
[06:10] <mcisbackuk> :P
[06:10] <pingu> ok any have and idea what i should do if some online homework wont load like i can look at the problem but cant type and answer box cause it doesn't show up any suggestions?
[06:10] <singlesun1> :))
[06:10] <jedounet> maybe someone here could telle me how i could remove the device of my laptop integrated screen (it's boken i use vga)
[06:10] <glick> i have wep2 enabled
[06:10] <jedounet> but make my xorg.conf buggy when distro upgrades
[06:10] <glick> and wireless mac filter
[06:10] <mcisbackuk> pingu: Is it a website?
[06:10] <glick> but everything seems correct
[06:10] <green-_> bazhang: any idea what repos that's in?
[06:10] <sudobash> it seems that the restricted driver configured the xorg file for me but when i stop GDM and just start a startx it tells me could not initialize Nvidia Kernel please make sure you have an NVIDIA GPU in the PC
[06:10] <jordan17> what is is that i need to install to start installing bye source
[06:11] <pingu> yes
[06:11] <jedounet> glick: how is your wifi working? ndiswrapper? free drivers? tell me more
[06:11] <mcisbackuk> jordan17: A frigging big book
[06:11] <glick> jedounet, at my brothers house it works fine
[06:11] <glick> jedounet, im not sure how exactly
[06:11] <bazhang> !info ccsm
[06:11] <ubotu> Package ccsm does not exist in gutsy
[06:11] <mcisbackuk> pingu: What exactly is the problem?
[06:11] <unop> bod_: vlc has good transcoding capabilities - only thing it's in the gui
[06:11] <jedounet> jordan17: by source you mean compile you packages? use gentoo it's bad time for their community but it's eficiency
[06:11] <mcisbackuk> pingu: and what browser?
[06:12] <jordan17> sorry i just for get its somting like sudo apt-get install +++++++++
[06:12] <bod_> unop, really,.,.cool cheers,. il try if ffmpeg fais
[06:12] <jedounet> glick: can you connect to the gateway?
[06:12] <mcisbackuk> jordan17: To download source packages apt-get source XXX
[06:12] <jedounet> you could use wifiradar to do it
[06:12] <glick> jedounet, no the wireless router wont even give me an ip address
[06:12] <jedounet> or select sources packages in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <jedounet> glick: use wifi-radar (for gnome but really the best wireless manager)
[06:13] <pingu> mcisbackuk: ok i get on firefox and go the the website where it asks you to login i proceed to the area where i have to do my assignment and it has a question that i have to answer in an "answer box" but the answer box doesn't show up
[06:13] <bazhang> universe green-_
[06:13] <green-_> bazhang: must have been in universe, just enabled that and apt found it
[06:13] <sudobash> restricted driver didnt work for me
[06:13] <glick> i have my router set to not broadcast ssid
[06:13] <green-_> bazhang: :)
[06:13] <jedounet> if you hardware is configured well it will be easy to understand don't worry
[06:13] <pingu> so i tried it on my friends computer who runs xp and it worked fine
[06:14] <mcisbackuk> pingu: Do you have Java installed?
[06:14] <jedounet> glick: i'm sorry but i'm french and i can't have better explain
[06:14] <jordan17> no sorry maby im not clear i wont to install a program by source but first i need to download the the libraries like g++
[06:14] <pingu> as far as i know, is there and easy way to check and i will real quick
[06:14] <jedounet> maybe someone here could telle me how i could remove the device of my laptop integrated screen (it's boken i use vga)???
[06:15] <jordan17> so how do i do that
[06:15] <jedounet> is it possible to delete a dev in /dev?
[06:15] <danbhfive> jedounet: i dont think you can delete a /dev
[06:15] <mcisbackuk> pingu: type about:plugins in address bar
[06:15] <unop> jedounet: allez a #ubuntu-fr pour l'aide en francais si vous-voulez.
[06:15] <manlymatt83> figured it out
[06:15] <pingu> like the online address bar
[06:15] <mcisbackuk> jedounet: No, unmount the volume to remove it
[06:15] <mcisbackuk> pingu: Yup
[06:15] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yeah man that will work ... xt that is
[06:15] <jedounet> unop: je suis sur ce chan mais il est endormi a cette heure la
[06:16] <quittt> !off-topic
[06:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:16] <cpk1> when I try to start dhcpd3 it fails and tail /var/log/syslog gives me No subnet declaration for eth2 (0.0.0.0) and I cant figure out what it wants me to add...
[06:16] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Good good :) I'm getting good hehe
[06:16] <jedounet> unop et j'aime les défits mais ske jve dire ce ke je saurai pas lui expliker plus précisement commen regler son probleme dans la langue de shakespeare
[06:16] <jordan17> what packages do i need to install to start installing programs by source ???
[06:16] <mcisbackuk> !fr | jedounet
[06:16] <ubotu> jedounet: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:16] <singlesun1> haha
[06:16] <mcisbackuk> jordan17: build-essentials
[06:16] <pingu> it appears that i have everything for java enabled
[06:16] <unop> jedounet: oui, c'est vrai -- pardonnez-moi :)
[06:16] <jordan17> yes thankyou
[06:17] <jedounet> ah it's a bot, they could introduce i didn't know lol
[06:17] <jordan17> thats what i was looking for
[06:17] <mcisbackuk> jordan17: yw ;)
[06:17] <bod_> unop, :ffmpeg - i /path/to/file/filename.ogg /path/to/anywhere/filename.mpg      gives error:unable to find a suitable output format for pipe
[06:17] <jedounet> unop: don't have to feel sorry man :D
[06:17] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol ... no ... if you can make my file transfer work on kopete or pidgin... you are getting good.. lol
[06:17] <mcisbackuk> pingu: Hmm, well it's not javascript then....pass...I don't know how to help without seeing it sorry :(
[06:18] <unop> jedounet: it's only that i live in the uk and should have known mostly everyone in europe is fast asleep :)
[06:18] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: How's developing packages and upstream releases for Hardy? Good enough then :P
[06:18] <pingu> mcisbackuk:well thanks any way
[06:18] <pingu> ok any have and idea what i should do if some online homework wont load like i can look at the problem but cant type and answer box cause it doesn't show up any suggestions?
[06:18] <unop> bod_: is that ogg audio?
[06:18] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, you know i was joking... lol :P
[06:18] <mcisbackuk> pingu: That's OK, sorry I couldn't help any more than that.
[06:18] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Of course :)
[06:18] <icesword> where am i
[06:18] <bod_> unop, no its a video screen capture
[06:19] <jedounet> unop: you can't figure how it's true, the all sleep at chicks time (l'heure des poules!)
[06:19] <mcisbackuk> #ubuntu irc.freenode.net
[06:19] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, now all you need to do... is write me "idiots guide to being leet on ubuntu (singlesun version)" and we are cool .. lol
[06:19] <jedounet> that's where we are is'nt it?
[06:19] <breanna> this is going to sound really stupid but where to you find terminal
[06:19] <jedounet> dtc
[06:19] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: If I could do that I'd release a "Ubuntu for Dummies" guide and make millions ;)
[06:20] <sudobash> ctrl alt f1
[06:20] <jedounet> xd
[06:20] <icesword> i use chatzilla ,what do you use
[06:20] <mcisbackuk> breanna, accessories
[06:20] <sudobash> is a term
[06:20] <breanna> thank you sudobash
[06:20] <jedounet> yep but he is talking about a graphical one i guess
[06:20] <sudobash> but there are better ways
[06:20] <icesword> how can minimize chatzilla to trat
[06:20] <icesword> tray
[06:20] <glick> should i use AES wep2 algorithm or tkip+AES
[06:20] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol
[06:20] <jedounet> breanna: what's your disrto?
[06:20] <mcisbackuk> sudobash: Not everyone knows how to get back to X from full term
[06:20] <sudobash> remember ctrl alt f7 is X windows
[06:20] <mcisbackuk> lol
[06:20] <breanna> ubuntu 7.1
[06:21] <jedounet> or hard reset will be tha last solution :p
[06:21] <sudobash> also you will find the terminal in apps -> accessories
[06:21] <jedounet> exactly
[06:21] <mcisbackuk> ^^as i said 5 mins ago lol
[06:21] <sudobash> yeah they get lost :)
[06:21] <jedounet> lol
[06:21] <sudobash> now why is my nvidia card screwed up?
[06:21] <breanna> thanks
[06:21] <pingu> ok any one have an idea what i should do if i get online to do some homework and everything but the "answer box" shows up
[06:21] <jedounet> it's not as easy as windows xp but it work eitherway
[06:22] <jedounet> (not sure of my vocabulary)
[06:22] <Aishiko> does fiesty still have kde 3.5.8?
[06:22] <unop> bod_: try this - ffmpeg -i input.ogg -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec libmp3lame output.mpeg
[06:22] <breanna> when i went to install it didn't ask me to make a root user.. now su doesn't work..
[06:22] <jedounet>  if it isn't just apt-get it
[06:23] <bazhang> chatzilla hit the minimize button in the title bar?
[06:23] <unop> !sudo breanna
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudo breanna - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Not asking for more help yet? lol
[06:23] <unop> !sudo | breanna
[06:23] <ubotu> breanna: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[06:23] <jedounet> ubotu U stinks
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u stinks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <jedounet> lol
[06:23] <unop> lol
[06:23] <mcisbackuk> lol
[06:23] <mcisbackuk> ubotu windows
[06:23] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[06:23] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i could... lol... whats the ekiga softphone for... im thinking about removing it
[06:23] <mcisbackuk> hahahaha
[06:23] <bazhang> !lol
[06:23] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[06:23] <bod_> unop,  kk il try cheers
[06:24] <mcisbackuk> ubotu quit
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <jedounet> ubotu ubotu
[06:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:24] <polopolo> how can i resize my only ubuntu partition while using gparted in ubuntu?
[06:24] <Aishiko> ubotu KDE 3.5.8
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde 3.5.8 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <jedounet> ubotu kick ubotu
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <sudobash> yesterday my Nvidia drivers worked fine on 7.10... I did a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade and some packages got updated now my driver doesnt work with any driver
[06:24] <Aishiko> ubotu feisty fawn
[06:24] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Not sure to be honest, methinks its for netmeeting etc - uses same protocol
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu.  Upgrading to Fesity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[06:24] <bazhang> jedounet: please stop
[06:24] <danbhfive> !botabuse
[06:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:24] <jedounet> it's just jokes
[06:24] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, and what is the best client for yahoo messenger.. on ubuntu.... i have tried pidgin and kopete.... and neither let me receive files
[06:24] <peanuts132> My desktop is so rad oh my
[06:25] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, i just removed both pidgin and kopete... not sure on what to do... lol
[06:25] <jedounet> ah ok
[06:25] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: I would have said pidgin........there must be a port of it
[06:25] <jedounet> so i just sh** up
[06:25] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, it would say something to the effect of "user has cancelled the file transfer"
[06:25] <polopolo> how can i resize my only ubuntu partition while using gparted in ubuntu?
[06:25] <Aishiko> sudobash, upgrading commonly breaks ubuntu
[06:26] <sudobash> great
[06:26] <bazhang> Aishiko: not here; what is your issue?
[06:26] <Aishiko> polopolo, you can't if the directory is active you can't resize it
[06:26] <jedounet> by a drag and drop on the part you want to resie down first, polopolo then the  way to resize the bigger
[06:26] <chronic1> anyone here familiar with the auditd supplied with ubuntu?
[06:26] <glick> can ubuntu not handle web2?
[06:26] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Does the other person have s tupid firewall like Norton, remember it MIGHT not be your end!!
[06:26] <sudobash> of course it can handle the web
[06:26] <jedounet> it can make coffe if you ask
[06:26] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Failing that....you could give ayttm a try
[06:26] <dsmith_> lol
[06:26] <jedounet> sudo make coffee
[06:27] <glick> i mean wep2
[06:27] <Aishiko> bazhang, the kde 4 broke my system and I would like to know what verison still uses the stable 3.5.8
[06:27] <jedounet> ah
[06:27] <bazhang> gutsy Aishiko
 so how can i ever resize ubuntu pertition?
[06:27] <jedounet> of course it's suported but it depends on you driver
[06:27] <dsmith_> sudo apt-get update girlfriend
[06:27] <dsmith_> :)
[06:27] <sudobash> lol
[06:27] <Aishiko> polopolo, you have to run it from a live cd or find another way
[06:27] <dsmith_> ./make
[06:27] <jedounet> if you have free space you can do resizaing while your system running if i'm not wrong
[06:27] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, lol... well it is my wifes pc that is running xp... with only winxp sp2 firewall enabled.... and it is on the wireless network here sharing the same internet connection... but i am wired
[06:27] <mcisbackuk> sudo apt-get cache and-lots-of-it
[06:27] <dsmith_> ./make install
[06:28] <Aishiko> bazhang, no the repos only have the 4.0 I've looked
[06:28] <bazhang> for support use #ubuntu; for idle chitchat #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[06:28] <falconer> breanna, right-click on applications, choose edit menus. In applications/accessories click terminal
[06:28] <icesword> anyone use chatzilla here, it use too much memory ,isn't it
[06:28] <polopolo> Aishiko> can i start gparted in tunnel when rebooted in safe mode?
[06:28] <jedounet> i think yes
[06:28] <Carbonflux> has anyone ever seen system monitors network display have a problem detecting speed ? mine looks like a sin wave, it shows double the speed then zero, then double, then zero, etc.
[06:28] <bazhang> Aishiko: you want to install kde over gnome?
[06:28] <jedounet> (bad choice)
[06:29] <Aishiko> polopolo, no your still activing and mounting the partiation htat way
[06:29] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: Since the release of SP2 there has been more firewall problems than not. ALSO bear in mind it could even be the router firewall......especially if you have a netgear
[06:29] <Aishiko> bazhang, no I want to install KDE 3.5.8 over KDE 4.0
[06:29] <navetz> what can I use in ubuntu to do some webdesign with flash?
[06:29] <Carbonflux> its only happening on my machine that has a intel gigabit controller on the mb
[06:29] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, hmmm.. i suppose
[06:29] <glick> damn i dont get it its not giving me a address
[06:29] <sudobash> wow is there a way to remove a list of packages automatically by date?
[06:29] <pingu> ok any one have an idea what i should do if i get online to do some homework and everything but the "answer box" shows up
[06:29] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: but yeah try ayttm if not
[06:29] <green-_> singlesun1: i thought i used to control the cube w/ control+click+pan mouse
[06:30] <green-_> doesn't seem to be working.. is that still it?
[06:30] <bod_> unop, i get this output (the name of the .ogg is out.ogg)   :out.ogg: I/O error occured
[06:30] <jedounet> glick: i was thinking why donyou turn wep off and enable a mac filter it could be easier if you're not so skilled
[06:30] <singlesun1> green-_, control cube... you can use the mouse to rotate it.... just left click and hold
[06:30] <mcisbackuk> green-_: ctrl alt left click drag i believe
[06:30] <polopolo> Aishiko> so if i put live cd it can't see the ubuntu hard rive to resize can it? how can i install gparted in live cd?
[06:30] <bod_> singlesun1, you can also use the mousewheel
[06:30] <jedounet> try dhclient glick
[06:30] <singlesun1> green-_, ctrl alt left click and hold....
[06:30] <green-_> ah yes
[06:30] <green-_> excellent
[06:30] <mcisbackuk> is there a cube on ubuntu then like beryl??
[06:31] <green-_> tnx
[06:31] <Aishiko> polopolo, ohh log in normally into the livecd and then use gpart from there easy
[06:31] <singlesun1> bod_, mousewheel.... hmm... lets see about that... lol
[06:31] <jedounet> compiz
[06:31] <bod_> mcisbackuk, beyl is compiz
[06:31] <bod_> beryl
[06:31] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yep there is ... lol compiz-fusion
[06:31] <unop> bod_: ouch, that's too vague and error to troubleshoot -- out of curiosity, which version of ffmpeg are you using?
[06:31] <jedounet> compiz tout court
[06:31] <polopolo> Aishiko is gparted included in the live cd?
[06:31] <unop> bod_: apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[06:31] <sudobash> beryl is software made for linux
[06:31] <bod_> which ever one sudo apt-get install ffmpeg gets me
[06:31] <Aishiko> polopolo, yes, it's what resizes and formats the drive when you install
[06:31] <sudobash> beryl will work on ubuntu
[06:32] <jedounet> polopolo: as live cd are make to install systems easylly you're nearly sure its on you livecd
[06:32] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, yeah it installs an advanced setting for appearance... its much less painful than actually doing all the stuff through Beryl directly
[06:32] <bod_> unop, 3.0
[06:32] <sudobash> it even has compiz built in
[06:32] <unop> bod_: i think you should get the CVS versions from the medibuntu repositories, they are newer
[06:32] <polopolo> Aishiko but i want not  reinstall just resize it
[06:32] <jedounet> maybe less stable??
[06:32] <polopolo> Aishiko so i can use the Hd for other stuff
[06:32] <mcisbackuk> always thought zompiz was installed by default if you selected extra in appearance?
[06:32] <sudobash> like windows visual appearance
[06:32] <unop> bod_: you have the medibuntu reps enabled?
[06:32] <bazhang> Aishiko: you still there?
[06:32] <bod_> unop, indeed
[06:32] <jedounet> then live cd and gparted you're right polopolo
[06:33] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, nope.. you have to get the rest of the package... to get the cube and all that... you just have the wavy windows with extra
[06:33] <Aishiko> polopolo, I know I'm just saying that it's there because that is what is used in the install process, just open a terminal and type Gpart if it's not under system or utilites in the main menu
[06:33] <sudobash> is Nvidia working with Ubuntu 8.04?
[06:33] <Aishiko> bazhang, yes I am
[06:33] <mcisbackuk> ok what do i need? (see even i'm learning)
[06:33] <sudobash> and if you encounter a problem is there a way to debug?
[06:33] <jedounet> nvidia often as i guess
[06:33] <polopolo> jeok
[06:33] <unop> bod_: this is the version i have, does your match up?  3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu4+medibuntu3
[06:33] <bazhang> Aishiko: installing kubuntu-desktop will put 3.5.8 alongside kde4
[06:34] <breanna> ugh.. when i installed java it made the folder on my desktop i wanted it somewhere else but it wont let me move it because i dont have permission
[06:34] <singlesun1> green-_, also get expo... i believe the short key is "super key" (aka windows key) and the letter E
[06:34] <sudobash> like If i wanted to try 8.04 and wanted to fix some bugs with c++ what source part would I start with?
[06:34] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: thats standard = expo
[06:34] <bod_> unop,  no mine is +medibuntu4
[06:34] <Aishiko> bazhang, I'm removing kde4 to force it to use 3.5.8 once I find a way to get kde 3.5.8
[06:34] <jedounet> use in your term sudo mv -R and chown it breanna
[06:34] <bazhang> sudobash: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <breanna> chown?
[06:35] <kunzy> Hey all, I am about to format and reinstall my main hard drive.  My set up is my main drive is XP and the Grub boot loader is in the MBR of the XP drive.  I am going to format that drive.  What all do i need to do so i can load into ubuntu after i format?
[06:35] <jedounet> it's a command to change the owner
[06:35] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, expo came installed standard? i thought i only added that when i had added the extra compiz stuff for cube and all that
[06:35] <polopolo> is gparted added in all versions of ubuntu?
[06:35] <jedounet> that's not what yoou encountered?
[06:35] <Aishiko> polopolo, yes
[06:35] <mcisbackuk> singlesun1: nahh its in extra appearances
[06:35] <bazhang> Aishiko: you would choose it in session iirc no need for force ;]
[06:35] <jedounet> polopolo: juste burn a live cd and you will see man ^^
[06:35] <polopolo> Aishiko who=ich live cd is the best so far?
[06:36] <Aishiko> bazhang, then why did it remove my 3.5.8 files?
[06:36] <green-_> singlesun1: what is expo?
[06:36] <jedounet> try a xubuntu 7.10
[06:36] <jedounet> lol
[06:36] <Aishiko> polopolo, right now I'm less then impressed with all of them, but they are all the same just different desktops installed
[06:36] <singlesun1> green-_, hit windows key and the letter E... you will see... if you have the other stuff working and all...
[06:37] <bazhang> Aishiko: what did you do? best to direct your questions to #kubuntu-kde4 ; it should have installed it alongside 3.5.8
[06:37] <jedounet> Aishiko: gone ^^
[06:37] <matkix> Anyone know what I can do to get a flash player on Firefox under ubuntu latest 64 bit?
[06:37] <bazhang> heh
[06:37] <unop> bod_: ok, probably a higher revision, sounds ok - check if vlc can do the converting
[06:37] <kunzy> Does anyone know what i need to do so i can boot into ubuntu after i format my main drive?
[06:37] <mcisbackuk> !flash |matkix
[06:37] <ubotu> matkix: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:37] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:37] <jeeves__> has anyone here successfully got the sound working on an Intel audio chipset yet?
[06:37] <singlesun1> matkix, LOL.... good luck man... i went back to 32 bit..... lol... that is a nightmare
[06:37] <geokeratz> !grub | kunzy
[06:37] <ubotu> kunzy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <bazhang> I wonder why user error always gets blamed on ubuntu ;[
[06:38] <matkix> singlesun1: Why is it such a nightmare?
[06:38] <Aishiko> bazhang, nothing I didn't realize auto-silent-updates were on by deflaut and it screwed up my 2 systems that are online all the time
[06:38] <mcisbackuk> matkix: Read above
[06:38] <green-_> heh now how do i get back to normal? now it's all zoomed in :)
[06:38] <singlesun1> matkix, there is no 32 bit flash or java... you have to install 32 bit firefox and then install flash .. and java
[06:38] <kunzy> thanks
[06:38] <mcisbackuk> windows key scroll down
[06:38] <Aishiko> bazhang, and on one system is screwed up my man_db file so it's really screwed up
[06:39] <mcisbackuk> cube doesn't work in compiz
[06:39] <bazhang> auto-silent-updates? without using sudo and checking? uh oh
[06:39] <unop> singlesun1: you can actually install the 32bit libraries on a 64bit system and then have 32bit apps run fine - << matkix
[06:39] <singlesun1> matkix, it was really a pain... and spotty at that... blackdown made a 64 bit version but i couldnt get it to work... so i just went back to 32 bit OS
[06:39] <matkix> singlesun1: Is that the only thing you have come across? I have a dual opteron 242 so 64 it is in my best intrest if it will work....
[06:39] <bluefoxx> i was using lmms and it crashed on me, but i was running it from the command line, so this was the last output[pastbin thinks im spamming for some reason]
[06:39] <pr0nGuy> Is there a way to view the last packages I installed on synaptic? There're so many that I forget sometimes.
[06:39] <bluefoxx> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what():  std::bad_alloc
[06:39] <glick> sweet! success!
[06:39] <bluefoxx> Aborted (core dumped)
[06:39] <singlesun1> matkix, same here ;) brb wife needs me
[06:39] <Aishiko> bazhang, that was my response only I included this is the sort of crap I expect from M$ not the FOSS world
[06:39] <bazhang> dpkg -l will list them all pr0nGuy
[06:39] <quittt> "To the worm who first gnawed on the cold flesh of my corpse, I dedicate with fond remembrance these Posthumous Memoirs.
[06:40] <bod_> unop, cheers for the help m8
[06:40] <green-_> anyone know if any of the repos have a pkg for avant-window-manager ?
[06:40] <unop> matkix: Howto Install 32 bit Firefox with Flash w/sound and Java for AMD64 ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[06:40] <bazhang> quittt: not here
[06:40] <jeeves__> matkix:  do you know anything about making sound work in an Intel chipset?
[06:41] <bazhang> !info avant-window-manager
[06:41] <ubotu> Package avant-window-manager does not exist in gutsy
[06:41] <green-_> god why do fonts have to suck so much under linux
[06:41] <bazhang> green-_: apparently not ;[
[06:41] <unop> bod_: i build ffmpeg from source and enabled all the options for configure and i've had little trouble - the thing with the ffmpeg dished out by ubuntu is that things like mp3 support, etc are disabled
[06:41] <unop> s/build/built/
[06:41] <Suva> green-_: What do you mean?
[06:41] <bluefoxx> is there a support area for lmms?
[06:41] <jeeves__> bazhang:  sound?  intel chipsets?
[06:41] <pr0nGuy> bazhang: I'm looking specifically for the "last" packages I installed.  There's got to b a way find out.
[06:42] <matkix> 64 Bit Seems like a head ache... I can't even get Vmware to work...
[06:42] <genji> hello all.
[06:42] <green-_> suva: they could render a lot nicer ... fonts are probably the only thing pos windows does better than linux
[06:42] <bod_> unop, someone called alinon is trying to convert ogg files to be used on windows,. but no luck so far
[06:42] <jeeves__> genji:  hello
[06:42] <geokeratz> hi
[06:42] <bruenig> ogg files can be used on windows
[06:42] <Suva> green-_: Fonts is least of the problems
[06:42] <bazhang> jeeves__: you read the comprehensive sound guide on ubuntuforums yet?
[06:42] <genji> running an AMD64 x2 4200+ 939 socket chip.
[06:43] <Suva> green-_: Lack of good (read any) video editing tools is the biggest problem
[06:43] <genji> And.... used the AMD64 version of Ubuntu cd.
[06:43] <genji> It updated.. and.. its no longer amd64?
[06:43] <microm> Interesting chat ... Is this the correct board to discuss some problems I've encountered with my upgrade to version 7.10? If not can you suggest a better place?
[06:43] <bod_> genji, lol
[06:43] <jeeves__> bazhang:  yep, and it screwed up my computer.  now I'm getting some error that I can't figure out.  Becides, there is YET to be a definate guide there that WORKS!
[06:43] <bazhang> green-_: install microsoft core fonts if you must
[06:43] <bod_> microm,  here is fine
[06:44] <genji> bod: no joke..... the kernel turned generic.
[06:44] <unop> bod_: i really think that ogg video file should be called .ogv instead, perhaps you could try renaming the file and try ffmpeg again ?
[06:44] <bluefoxx> i need support for lmms
[06:44] <danbhfive> microm: what went wrong?
[06:44] <green-_> bazhang: i don't care for ms fonts .. it's not the fonts, it's the rendering, anyway
[06:44] <bazhang> bluefoxx: what is lmms
[06:44] <Himmelsmeister> hi, i have quite a bad problem, i tried to switch back from the new ati-driver to the one in the repos and now each time i try to boot i get a black screen (and no video-output at all) where the xserver should start.
[06:44] <green-_> but whatever... not the end of the world
[06:44] <genji> am i missing something? or does generic kernel hav amd64 x2 support inately?
[06:44] <bluefoxx> bazhang: its a music making application for linux
[06:44] <Johnson> how do i give a file root.root ownership im trying to nstal java docs
[06:45] <bod_> unop, its difficult not being able to actually see it working and i get annoyed,.,.lol,.,.alinon is going for vlc route,. so il let u no
[06:45] <bazhang> Himmelsmeister: do you get the terminal prompt?
[06:45] <singlesun1> unop, well man... i tried tons of stuff... and it turned out that the 64 bit stuff was just really annoying... but then again... i dont know that much abot ubuntu yet... so i had to reinstall 32 and thats what im running on right now
[06:45] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: well that's the weird part: i can't even switch to any tty, and still: if i press alt+f4 and then space my laptop reboots...
[06:46] <genji> Big question, how do i determine if my system is detectin my amd64 dual core or not? how do i detect if its running 64 bit or not?
[06:46] <Suva> green-_: Either way, I think ubuntu fonts are pretty decent
[06:46] <unop> bod_: no worries, hope he gets it converted
[06:46] <danbhfive> Johnson: sudo chown root:root the_file
[06:46] <bazhang> Himmelsmeister: tried starting up in safe mode?
[06:46] <bod_> unop, ty
[06:47] <unop> singlesun1: it's actually quite easy if you have a chroot, and much easier if you install the ia32libs
[06:47] <bazhang> Himmelsmeister: are you even getting the grub menu?
[06:47] <unop> singlesun1: but yea, i can see why you moved, you aren 't the only one to have done that
[06:47] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: yeah, well there i get the prompt as root, but the same result when i try to startx there... worst part maybe is that even vesa refuses to work with my atix1400
[06:47] <Johnson> danbhfive: thanks
[06:47] <microm> OK First 7.10 changed gaim to pidgin. Pidgin had problems connecting to xmpp servers, Pidgins board said that the tool to support xmpp might not be in the download and to ask ubuntu users for help.
[06:47] <genji> uname -a  linuxbox 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 05:28:27 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/]
[06:48] <genji> SMP = dual core yes?
[06:48] <singlesun1> unop, i dont even know what chroot is ... lol... and i had the java and flash running but it was alot of work... and i really didnt know what i was doing... so... there was alot of junk files all over the place...
[06:48] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help Himmelsmeister
[06:48] <Carbonflux> has anyone ever seen system monitors network display have a problem detecting speed ? mine looks like a sin wave, it shows double the speed then zero, then double, then zero, etc.
[06:48] <bazhang> aye genji
[06:49] <genji> bazhang, the x86_64 = im not running amd64?
[06:49] <danbhfive> Carbonflux: that might be whats actually happening
[06:49] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: tried that, but as i said, vesa gives me "Screen(s) found , but none have a usable configuration"
[06:49] <PyChild> heeeeeelpu, some process is trying to setuid with gtk and borking my gnome session!!!!
[06:49] <green-_> uhhhh... stupid question ... given that rpm is not on this system... is something else preferred for installing rpms directly?
[06:49] <Tomi^^> Are there any other drivers for X-Fi Xtremegamer soundcard than 64bit? :/
[06:49] <bod_> unop,  hoe do u convert files in vlc?
[06:49] <bazhang> genji: x86_64 is the 64bit if that is your question--no idea what processor you have though ;]
[06:50] <genji> green-: alien, to convert rpm's to apt.
[06:50] <singlesun1> odd question.... is there any GUI based app that lets you see what connections are currently established to your pc... that updates in real time? kinda like cports did for winblows?
[06:50] <genji> bazhang, I have an amd64 X2 4200+ ... i used the amd64 cd.... but then i updated...
[06:50] <Carbonflux> danbhfive, it does seem like it, in any speed monitor I try it shows the link going idle and back again, maybe some weird buffering thing ? I have ubuntu same version running on another machine on the same network and its fine heh
[06:50] <bazhang> green-_: installing what? best to see if it is the repos first
[06:50] <singlesun1> mcisbackuk, you didnt fall asleep did ya... lol
[06:50] <green-_> wth, trying to get alien from cd?
[06:50] <green-_> bazhang: avant-window-navigator :)
[06:51] <bazhang> aha
[06:51] <unop> bod_: ok, let me install vlc
[06:51] <bod_> unop,  wow! cheers m8
[06:51] <acdvs> is this the right place to ask about "new mail" notification feature in bash?
[06:52] <Carbonflux> genji, I am running that same kernel on a amd64 also, its fine as far as I know.
[06:52] <unop> acdvs: perhaps, try us :)
[06:52] <breanna> when i try to install flash it asks me for the location of mozilla.. i tell it /usr/lib/mozilla but it says please enter a valid path.. wtf
[06:52] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: any other ideas?
[06:52] <unop> breanna: try not inputting anything there
[06:52] <bazhang> safe mode does not work Himmelsmeister
[06:52] <unop> breanna: just press enter
[06:53] <breanna> errored again
[06:53] <acdvs> unop: I set MAIL=<path to directory of mailbox> and MAILPATH=<path> and MAILCHECK=10 in my .bashrc...but it doesn't work
[06:53] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: what do you mean? what doesn't work in safe mode?
[06:53] <genji> Carbonflux, So.. amd64 and x86_64 kernels have merged? its also strange that none of my software says amd64.. or any 64 in it.
[06:53] <sohail> hey how do you set ubuntu to automatically apply security updates from the command line?
[06:53] <bazhang> Himmelsmeister: ah sorry; does starting up in safe mode not work from grub?
[06:53] <unop> breanna: hmm, quit the script and try again, this time just press enter
[06:54] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: it does, but only without an xserver
[06:54] <breanna> still failed >_>
[06:54] <falconer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/150379 how do you fix this. I don't have tracker installed
[06:54] <unop> acdvs: afaik, you need to configure the MTA to get it to place mail in a particular directory -- try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow exim
[06:55] <icesword> breanna: failed what
[06:55] <breanna> installing flash
[06:55] <icesword> you mean flash player
[06:55] <singlesun1> anyone know if there is any GUI based apps for monitoring connections to your pc in real time.... like cPorts did for Winblows?
[06:55] <breanna> its asking me for the installation path for mozilla, i tell it /usr/lib/mozilla and it says please enter a validinstall path
[06:55] <breanna> >_>
[06:55] <Carbonflux> genji, well, my hardware info shows 2 64 bit processors and when I compile a C++ program a unsigned int is 64bits
[06:55] <acdvs> unop: my MTA getmail is configured correctly and mails arrive in inbox..but notification doesn't happen in bash
[06:55] <falconer> breanna did you install it from synaptic?
[06:56] <Carbonflux> genji, I am dead 100% sure I am running in 64bit
[06:56] <breanna> i'm on ubuntu i didn't even see synaptic on this
[06:56] <jedounet> what client do you use to connect irc under gnome please, i use pifgin but its uggy due to my screen configuration
[06:56] <green-_> of course there's no awn package for gutsy.. that would be too easy :)
[06:56] <adeli1> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu, and after updating, it starts up with "failed to initialize HAL" dialog. Help please
[06:56] <falconer> system menu --> administration
[06:56] <green-_> oh well, bed then mess w/ it tomorrow
[06:56] <bod_> unop, ???
[06:56] <icesword> xchat
[06:56] <jedounet> *bugy*
[06:56] <falconer> synaptic is in there
[06:56] <green-_> thanks all for the help
[06:56] <jedounet> xhat
[06:56] <bazhang> xchat seems popular jedounet
[06:56] <jedounet> les go for it
[06:56] <jordan17> lol sorry to ask this again but my laptop dyed and lost the spelling of it now what do I need to install to start installing bye source
[06:56] <breanna> does ubuntu have synaptic? o.o
[06:57] <icesword> sure
[06:57] <falconer> yes
[06:57] <falconer> See System menu
[06:57] <adeli1> breanna: by default, yes
[06:57] <icesword> do apt-get that sort of thing
[06:57] <icesword> it is easy
[06:57] <jedounet> thanks
[06:57] <jordan17> yes
[06:57] <jordan17> that
[06:57] <bazhang> jordan17: lost the spelling?
[06:57] <Carbonflux> genji, whats bothering you ? you don't think you are running the right kernel ?
[06:57] <breanna> do you know where i can find it
[06:57] <jordan17> lol i cant spell
[06:57] <sudobash>  system
[06:57] <falconer> system menu --> administration
[06:57] <Carbonflux> genji, I think the generic thing is a metapackage or something
[06:58] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: alright, i'll try to look somewhere else... bye
[06:58] <breanna> oh finally found it
[06:58] <unop> sorry bod_ i musta missed your post - can you post again?
[06:58] <breanna> damn i wish i knew there was here a while ago
[06:58] <falconer> breanna, it will take a while to start it.
[06:58] <genji> Carbonflux, any clear test for finding a 64 bit application in my system? ya... im wondering if i even installed it correctly... i had my package server set to a new zealand mirror.... which may or may not of had the correct amd64 versions of packages.
[06:58] <falconer> and then you can search for flash
[06:58] <bod_> unop, you were gunna find out how to convert files in vlc,.,. sorry for asking again
[06:58] <breanna> ty
[06:58] <genji> Carbonflux, So, it might of decided to do 32bit packages instead?
[06:59] <Carbonflux> genji, if that was your uname -a line your fine.
[06:59] <Carbonflux> genji, it can't, they are not compatable and won't run
[06:59] <unop> bod_: right right, just a sec
[06:59] <bod_> unop, cheers m8
[07:00] <Carbonflux> genji, when you first load does it show a line at the bottom of the screen before showing the flash screen where it shows you the mapping tables ?
[07:00] <genji> Carbonflux, okay... hmm.. i also wish to install the rt kernel.... its generic? or would it also automatically detect amd64 x2, and install the right support?
[07:00] <unop> bod_: file -> wizard -> transcode file ...
[07:00] <genji> ya.. i remember it does show mapping lines....
[07:00] <bazhang> Himmelsmeister: the only thing I can suggest is manually copying the xorg.conf file and then pastebining--you would then have to wget the correct driver and install via command line if it is that badly broken
[07:01] <Carbonflux> genji, that means its loading the 64 bit kernel
[07:01] <bod_> unop,  legend cheers dude
[07:01] <jordan17> its something like sudo apt-get install credentials <<<< but dont know the spelling of that so i can install programs bye source
[07:01] <ShiftyShifty> man, anyone here have experience with twinview
[07:01] <ShiftyShifty> using nvidia
[07:01] <sudobash> wow VLC in a terminal is crazy
[07:01] <ShiftyShifty> and different resolutions on different monitors?
[07:01] <genji> Carbonflux, hmm.... the 64 bit kernel needs mapping tables?
[07:01] <bazhang> !twinview
[07:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:01] <sudobash> now i can kill x and still listen to music awesome
[07:01] <sudobash> bye
[07:01] <bazhang> see above ShiftyShifty
[07:02] <Himmelsmeister> bazhang: i'm quite sure that the problem lies not within my xorg.conf (i have a few working versions and tested them all), but i will try to reinstall the new ati-driver and see whether at least that one works...
[07:02] <ShiftyShifty> nah, i'm trying to do a clone
[07:02] <ShiftyShifty> not one big screen
[07:02] <jordan17> what is it that i need to install so that I cant start installing programs bye source
[07:02] <ShiftyShifty> i'm just trying to clone what is displayed on my 1280x720 projector to the 1920x1080 TV
[07:02] <bazhang> I see
[07:02] <Carbonflux> genji, its just some text it shows where it finds the address range or something, I am not sure what it means really, but if you are running a 32 bit version it does not show those lines
[07:03] <bazhang> jordan17: what do you want to install--what is the package
[07:03] <jordan17> noting right now i just need it installed i run in to it all the time
[07:04] <alexbobp> I just booted my computer after resizing some partitions and tried to log in to kdm.  When my main account logs in with any window manager (kde or gnome), the screen goes black for a second and then goes back to the login screen.  startx shows a black screen and then terminates.  Other accounts can log in fine.  What can cause this?
[07:04] <falconer> jordan17, you need to install development packages.
[07:04] <u53r> check the logs alex
[07:04] <jordan17> yes
[07:05] <falconer> when you do ./configure on the program you're installing, it should tell you what you are missing.
[07:05] <jordan17> its sudo apt-get install ******** <<<< thats the part i forget
[07:05] <Breakage> Anyway to change gtk2 sudo font size in Fluxbox?
[07:05] <Carbonflux> genji, do a ls /lib and see if you have a x86_64-linux-gnu dir
[07:06] <genji> Carbonflux, yup. empty, but its there.
[07:06] <noodles12> i have a pdf from school and I can't seem to select the text from the file to paste. Is there a different program in linux that'll do it?
[07:06] <Carbonflux> genji, that means its 64bit
[07:07] <jordan17> how do i install the development packages thorough sudo apt-get install
[07:07] <Carbonflux> genji, it would say i486-linux-gnu if not
[07:07] <Sylvia> any console command can replace Update Manager ?
[07:07] <bazhang> jordan17: just apt-cache search ; no one can guess the name of what you want
[07:08] <unop> jordan17: search for the packages you want installing - aptitude search "lib.*package.*dev"  -- then install the packages you like..
[07:08] <genji> Carbonflux, -nods- Okay. so..... this probably means that any generic kernel in Ubuntu repos, are full, all supporting, kernels? So, if i install the rt kernel.. i'll be fine?
[07:09] <geokeratz> Sylvia>  sudo aptitude
[07:09] <Carbonflux> I don't know about rt kernel genji :|
[07:09] <Sylvia> geokeratz, thank you
[07:10] <genji> Open question to anyone. the rt (realtime) kernel ubuntu package. Anyone know anything about it?
[07:10] <breanna> ugh.. i can't get my flash to work at all this is getting me frustrated.. i tried using synaptic to install flashplayer-nonfree but its not showing up in about:plugins
[07:11] <tomato> hi all, is there a file synchronization tools that is two way?
[07:11] <bazhang> we all know about it genji what is your precise question
[07:11] <jordan17> i had some one answer it before.  i need to install this before I can install programs by source
[07:12] <genji> bazhang, whether its a full kernel, supporting amd64 dual core, or do i have to install source and 'make' my own?
[07:12] <bazhang> genji: do you have synaptic? can you take a peek there?
[07:13] <falconer> breanna
[07:13] <bazhang> jordan17: did you not get my message?
[07:13] <breanna> yes..?
[07:13] <falconer> I have a libflashplayer.so file in .mozilla/plugins
[07:14] <falconer> I don't remember how it got there.
[07:14] <bazhang> heh
[07:14] <nemilar> SYN
[07:14] <Knightwise> hey eveyone
[07:14] <drambuie> breanna,  i got flash to work, but i don't quite know how.  i think i uninstalled flashplugin-nonfree, and then i went to youtube and firefox will install it automatically from there
[07:15] <geokeratz> Knightwise>  hi
[07:15] <icesword> SURE,ANY SITE HAS FLASH ENALED WILL INSTALL THAT ON YOUR SYSTEM
[07:15] <albech> anyone else experience random system crashes when scrolling in firefox and opera?
[07:16] <icesword> albech: what you mean,random crashes
[07:16] <bod_> i'm not sure what it's talking about when it asks what type of "encapsulation format" i want this in
[07:16] <bod_> vlc
[07:16] <drgeb> hi I am using compiz and for some reason when attempting to view a show mythtv crashes and restarts anyway I can track why this is happening and how to fix it ?
[07:16] <albech> icesword: exactly random crashes.. the system freeze and i have to restart it completely
[07:16] <sudoubungu> holy
[07:16] <albech> icesword: i cant even kill X
[07:17] <sudoubungu> how long does it take gparted to resize?
[07:17] <breanna> i did that at a site requiring flash, it still didn't install
[07:17] <bod_> albech, killall x
[07:17] <albech> icesword: it doesnt happen every time i scroll, so its random
[07:17] <breanna> it installed it, it said close firefox and restart and it will work
[07:17] <icesword> albech: ctrl+alt_backspace did not work
[07:17] <bazhang> sudoubungu: depends on the size of the partition
[07:17] <albech> icesword: no.. nothing
[07:17] <sudoubungu> what is the "extened" part in th has that ubuntu has created?
[07:17] <breanna> i did that and it still says plugin is missing
[07:17] <albech> icesword: i have power down
[07:18] <sudoubungu> bazhang> trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long?
[07:18] <icesword> albech: did you have enough memory
[07:18] <albech> icesword: mouse and keyboard freeze too
[07:18] <sudoubungu> bazhand waited about 10 min
[07:18] <albech> icesword: 2 gb
[07:18] <sudoubungu> .
[07:18] <icesword> what?oh, then you have to check out if there are any conflict programs
[07:18] <icesword> in your system
[07:19] <albech> icesword: im pretty sure its a gfx driver problem.. nvidia
[07:19] <sudoubungu> ?
[07:19] <breanna> christ i dont know what is wrong..
[07:19] <albech> icesword: cause im also getting random black frames (screen flashing black)
[07:19] <icesword> oh, i see,then you must install its driver
[07:20] <albech> running: GeForce Go 7400
[07:20] <icesword> just for good performance,or you have to disabel it
[07:20] <albech> icesword: ver: 100.14.19
[07:21] <sudoubungu> hello?
[07:21] <icesword> check graphic card,then go to its offical website,check if exist any driver for linux available
[07:22] <icesword> albech: you hear me
[07:23] <breanna> finally
[07:23] <albech> icesword: yes, sorry just had ppl at my door
[07:23] <breanna> i uninstalled firefox
[07:23] <breanna> and reinstalled it and it finally worked >_>
[07:23] <albech> icesword: which website? nvidia?
[07:23] <breanna> holy geeze
[07:24] <icesword> that depends what graphic card you use
[07:24] <bazhang> bravo breanna
[07:24] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i wait 10 minutes
[07:24] <albech> icesword: ok 2 sec let me check
[07:24] <breanna> thanks all for help
[07:24] <falconer> it's not worth it. Flash sucks. Now you'll want flash blocker
[07:24] <bazhang> sudoubungu: wait another 10-15 and then ask again ;]
[07:24] <SeveredCross> Whoot. I got Metacity running as a compositor.
[07:24] <bazhang> falconer hehe
[07:25] <SeveredCross> Wasn't pretty though. Crashed every few minutes.
[07:25]  * SeveredCross kicks ATI for making their driver not work with Compiz.
[07:25] <sudoubungu> bazhang> are you serious?
[07:25] <nickrud> sudoubungu: I would have said go have lunch
[07:25] <u53r> hav u used the xorg-xgl driver : severedcross
[07:25] <bazhang> sudoubungu: are you really wanting an answer now? this could take a while...
[07:25] <SeveredCross> u53r, I don't want to use Xgl.
[07:25] <SeveredCross> It's slow and buggy.
[07:26] <u53r> then i guess you would hav 2 wait until fglrx can support compiz
[07:26] <nickrud> u53r: it does now, but it's slow and buggy :)
[07:26] <SeveredCross> Yeah...Did I ever indicate contrary?
[07:26] <u53r> cool
[07:26] <SeveredCross> It claims to, but I can't get Compiz to start.
[07:26] <u53r> i had 2 use xgl some time back
[07:27] <u53r> on an ibm T60
[07:27] <SeveredCross> That has the same card I have.
[07:27] <SeveredCross> Mobility Radeon X1400.
[07:28] <nickrud> SeveredCross: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide will set up the new ati driver, but imho it's not worth it. I went back to standard ati and metacity
[07:28] <u53r> when u say slow wht apps are u going 2 run ?
[07:29] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 35 minutes
[07:29] <albech> icesword: i found a newer version of the gfx driver.. trying to install that
[07:29] <icesword> yes ,go ahead
[07:29] <travisat_> sudoubungu: could take a while
[07:30] <robc4> sudoubungu, did you move a partition from left to right?
[07:30] <robc4> or the other way around
[07:30] <bazhang> 10+5 =35?
[07:30] <robc4> if so, it can take a loooong time
 no
[07:31] <robc4> it took me ~5 hours to resize and move partitions around
  what is moving from left to right?
[07:32] <travisat_> sudoubungu: did you resize it so you coul make a new partition in front of it or behind it
[07:32] <strike> hi, I am facing a wiered problem
[07:32] <strike> one of my server is getting time skew of almost 6 hours a day
[07:32] <sudoubungu> travisat_> i don't understand
[07:32] <strike> I have ntpd running but still the problem persists
[07:33] <strike> can anyone shed some light why this might be happening?
[07:33] <Shinma> hi, up until a reboot my mouse wheel would scroll through my virtual workspaces when my mouse is over the background, but it stopped working... i tried looking in keybindings and it didnt look weird or anything, anyone have any ideas?
[07:33] <travisat_> sudoubungu: when you resize the partition you can either shorted from the first sectors of the partition or the last sectors
[07:33] <strike> I am using Linux 2.6.20-16-generic
[07:33] <robc4> sudoubungu, its when you change the start or end sectors
[07:34] <travisat_> sudoubungu: if you are resizing say /dev/sda2 and you want to make /dev/sda1 bigger you would be affecting the first sectors, if you wanted to make say /dev/sda3 bigger you would be affecting the last sectors
[07:35] <genji> find it strange that ubuntu's device manager detects my processors but says vendor: unknown
[07:35] <genji> device: unknown
[07:35] <icesword> HEHE
[07:35] <genji> that normal, for a amd 64x2?
[07:35] <bazhang> your processors have gone missing?
[07:36] <icesword> just less /proc/cpuinfo
[07:36] <drewby> Does anyone else have a problem with running mplayer and flash at the same time in firefox?
[07:36] <Bojangles> How can i load up "volume control" i'm using 7.10
[07:37] <anakin_> Hello, i've installed a new graphics card, everything seems to be okay with the restricted drivers except that the resolution is much lower than it used to be on a crummy VIA on board card.
[07:37] <anakin_> what gives/
[07:37] <bazhang> drewby: many are having flash issues
[07:37] <drewby> bazhang: what do you recommend?
[07:37] <travisat_> anakin_: you need to get the right driver for you vid card
[07:38] <bazhang> patience drewby ;] its been about three weeks for the 'fix' so far
[07:38] <alinon> i'm trying to convert a .ogg video with VLC, but i can't seem to get them to play once they get transcoded
[07:38] <genji> bazhang: linux-rt says.. "Supports Generic processors."
[07:38] <drewby> okay well I guess I just chill and wait for the update
[07:38] <anakin_> travisat_: i think its already the best one- the restricted driver feature picked it up from synaptic- am using nvidia-geforce8
[07:39] <genji> bazhang, that means it supports Amd64 x2 off the bat?
[07:39] <travisat_> anakin_: ah hmm well have you tried changing the resolution from screen resolution control?
[07:39] <bazhang> genji: not sure;will google for karma though ;]
[07:40] <abz> hi guys, nice 2 meet u :D
[07:40] <icesword> abz: that is a simple nick
[07:40] <bazhang> got a support question abz
[07:40] <falconer> Bojangles run in terminal gnome-volume-control
[07:40] <jbroome> wii Bojangles
[07:40] <genji> bazhang, ?? What forum you want me to join, and give karma in?
[07:40] <jbroome> crap, sorry
[07:40] <abz> thanx . . :D
[07:41] <spidermankevin> hay i need some help im a ubuntu neebe
[07:41] <bazhang> genji: no I meant I will google it for you as I dont know the answer ;]
[07:41] <Bojangles> thankyou
[07:41] <falconer> Bojangles, volume control applet should have a link in the panel also.
[07:41] <Bojangles> yea it's not there
[07:41] <falconer> You can add it to the panel
[07:42] <icesword> spidermankevin: just to the point
[07:42] <genji> bazhang, Ah.. thanks. Karma, i recall, is a voting system for some forums... was wondering if you were refering to that.
[07:42] <abz> somebody can help me?? my mmc (acer4520) can't read, im use Ubuntu-Gutsy?
[07:42] <Bojangles> in add/remove programmes it says it's there
[07:42] <spidermankevin> im tryto crossovercable network it with a comp running vista with internet sharing
[07:42] <Bojangles> installed*
[07:42] <Bojangles> ok
[07:42] <falconer> rgiht-click on the panel, and choose "add to panel"
[07:42] <falconer> and choose to add a volume control.
[07:42] <abz> what's wrong with my laptop?
[07:42] <Bojangles> ahhh
[07:42] <Bojangles> thankyou
[07:42] <Joel> Has anyone seen this scenario: Wireless on my laptop generally works fine in, e.g., FireFox but for some odd reason it doesn't work with the package manager for installing updates -- all the connections just time out.  Ethernet, on the other hand, works fine all around.
[07:43] <Bojangles> now, mind if i paste this error message?
[07:43] <Bojangles> i will i get kicked for flooding :x
[07:43] <icesword> Joel: i tried ping yet
[07:43] <falconer> Joel, are you canadian?
[07:43] <Joel> No, Oregon, U.S.
[07:43] <abz> plizz . . :'(
[07:44] <icesword> abz:how do you make that appearance
[07:44] <icesword> sad
[07:44] <icesword> ...
[07:44] <Joel> ABZ: I have the same setup (Acer 4520), and the card reader is working fine here (at least for SD cards, which is the only thing I have sitting around to try)
[07:45] <abz> yes my laptop can read SD,
[07:45] <abz> but not MMC
[07:45] <Joel> Ah, gotcha.  Sorry that I don't have an MMC card around to try.
[07:45] <abz> OMG
[07:45] <Shinma> hi, up until a reboot my mouse wheel would scroll through my virtual workspaces when my mouse is over the background, but it stopped working... i tried looking in keybindings and it didnt look weird or anything, anyone have any ideas?
[07:46] <bod_> hey guys,.,. i get this error when i try to play a .flv file in totem :The playback of this movie requires a Flash demuxer plugin which is not installed.
[07:46] <abz> my dmesg report, before and after MMC plugged in is the same . .
[07:46] <falconer> Joel, can you download from a secure site, like this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/18281/yoono-4.0.3.5488-fx.xpi
[07:46] <falconer> it's just to test Joel.
[07:46] <abz> so i cant mount my MMC:'(
[07:46] <falconer> you can cancel the dl if it starts
[07:46] <Joel> Falconer: I'll try it out and see -- one moment
[07:46] <singlesun1> umm... this is a real n00b question... but why do i have a thing that says "disk" on my desktop.... it wasnt there before.. but it is now.... and it seems to be my ntfs formatted partition that is showing up on the desktop when i decide to browse that icon
[07:47] <icesword> mmc is flash memory, isn't it
[07:47] <travisat_> singlesun1: um because your system decided to let you look at another partition
[07:47] <abz> but it cant detected . . not like USB flash drive . .
[07:48] <lgc__> How can one 'tweak' a PDF document so one can edit it with Acrobat Reader?
[07:48] <abz> is it my kernel got any problem??
[07:48] <travisat_> singlesun1: probably an update did it
[07:48] <bod_> nickrud, hey dude,.,. whats a flash demuxer plugin?
[07:48] <singlesun1> travisat_, ummm can i remove that from the desktop?
[07:48] <sudoubungu> how long can you do a boring task that is spending time etc?
[07:49] <singlesun1> travisat_, i dont believe i can "unmount" it... because it is my hardrive... LOL
[07:49] <Joel_> Falconer: Yeah, https: works (I went to https://login.yahoo.com)
[07:49] <falconer> Joel, have you tried changing the repositories in the package manager?
[07:49] <travisat_> singlesun1: it is a partition of your harddrive you can umount it most likely
[07:50] <singlesun1> travisat_, i never had this thing pop up by itself before... so it kinda tripped me out when i saw it just now... lol
[07:50] <falconer> Or system-->administration-->software sources.
[07:50] <travisat_> singlesun1: did you do an update or install anything?
[07:50] <Joel_> Falconer; No, since it didn't seem as though that would have anything to do with why Ethernet would work and WiFi wouldn't?  I'll do it now though to make sure...
[07:50] <singlesun1> travisat_, yep
[07:50] <falconer> oh hmm, I see.
[07:51] <travisat_> singlesun1: well probably the update changed some setting so now it is automounting that partition
[07:51] <falconer> no I guess it wouldn't.
[07:51] <singlesun1> travisat_, yeah i sudo apt-get install/removed a few apps
[07:52] <Joel_> Falconer: For 3rd-party software, archive.canonical.com/ubuntu_gutsy is unchecked whereas packages.medibunti.org is checked (and seems to time out a lot)
[07:52] <travisat_> singlesun1: well unless its a problem I wouldn't worry about it, unless you install anything dealing with ntfs I would not try copying anything to it, but you can most likely read stuff off of it
[07:52] <bazhang> genji: you still around? well considering that amd64 does have a ubuntustudio iso (which is rt kernel) then it should be ok
[07:52] <genji> bazhang, suppose i could just try it yes? most kernel installs, put the old kernel in the grub boot menu, ya?
[07:53] <Joel_> Does the add/remove app program keep a log file somewhere?
[07:53] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 37 days
[07:53] <travisat_> days?
[07:53] <pajamian> singlesun1: you can check your /etc/fstab file and see if there's a line for the partition there.
[07:54] <Shinma> can anyone recommend a good site ripper (supports passwords) ?
[07:55] <bazhang> genji: well no kernel master am I, but generally yes that is true ;]
[07:55] <michael> Does anyone here use xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[07:55] <singlesun1> travisat_, pajamian i will check it out... thanks
[07:55] <bazhang> #xubuntu does michael ;]
[07:56] <bazhang> what!
[07:56] <travisat_> genji: if you isntall it by hand it might not
[07:56] <pajamian> singlesun1: check the fstab(5) manpage for more info
[07:56] <pajamian> man 5 fstab
[07:56] <mwti> Can someone fix FloodBot1?
[07:56] <bazhang> I guess they are not registered
[07:57] <snadge> linux 2.6.24 dramatically improves scorched3d performance on a 512mb ram system over time.. no longer get linear system degradation until scorched eventually fails.. :) (random observation of the day)
[07:57] <mwti> Why are we +Rr ?
[07:57] <mikebot> Does anyone here use /quit
[07:57] <travisat> what is /quit?
[07:57] <stdin> travisat: it's some annoying person trying to make you quit your client
[07:58] <snadge> i also propose a new ubuntu variant called scorchbuntu.. that just boots into scorched3d, since thats all you need
[07:58] <travisat> has floodbot decided to rise against us?
[07:59] <bazhang> it has gained sentience or you are not registered
[07:59] <singlesun1> LOL
[07:59] <bazhang> either way not good
[07:59] <lhardyl> has anyone else had an sudio problem with gutsy?
[07:59] <lhardyl> erm.. audio
[07:59] <singlesun1> none here
[08:00] <ardchoille> sudio? is that a text to speech module for sudo?
[08:00] <lhardyl> hahaha
[08:00] <singlesun1> lol... that would be nice
[08:00] <bazhang> catchy name snadge; though doubt canonical will license it ;]
[08:00] <singlesun1> copyright it.... oh wait... nvrmind... bill would do that... LOL
[08:01] <bazhang> off to work--back later
[08:01]  * pajamian creates a sound file with the words "rm -rf /" and get's everyone with this new "sudio" to click on it.
[08:01]  * singlesun1 clicks... lol
[08:02] <singlesun1> !uboto sudio
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto sudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <singlesun1> LOL
[08:03] <ardchoille> hehe
[08:03] <Genjimoto> well.. that was a wierd experience.
[08:03] <lhardyl> freakin realtek audio
[08:03] <singlesun1> Genjimoto, whats the weird exp?
[08:04] <Genjimoto> bazhang, as we speak, synaptic is being helpful, installing rt kernel. and here I go. wierd expereince. suddenly not able to talk, and having to register, after talking for half an hour on my usual nick, on any other game/server.
[08:05] <Genjimoto> So, seeya on the other side of real time!
[08:06] <lhardyl> hmmmmm now why would the ubunto logging tune play but then no other audio files play?... at all
[08:06] <lhardyl> damn spelling
[08:08] <felixflores> omg check out these robots ijust found http://digg.com/hardware/Smallest_robot_ever_Video_and_Pics
[08:08] <radetsky> Anybody familiar with totem? I'm playing a movie and the subtitles are full of '\n" characters. Do I need to change the text format?
[08:08] <felixflores> lo crazy
[08:08] <Genjimoto> And it boots.
[08:08] <Genjimoto> bazhang, And it scores! uname -a: Linux linuxbox 2.6.22-14-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Dec 18 06:37:06 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:08] <radetsky> felixflores: but does it run linux?
[08:09] <felixflores> lol im sure it does radetsky
[08:09] <JackPhil> does the grub is gfxboot patched? I use 7.10, up to date
[08:09] <felixflores> what other os is awesome enough to run that ? radetsky
[08:10] <radetsky> felixflores: Burroughs Corp's MCP?
[08:10] <TwinsenDude>  Hi.  I have a problem with dual screens.  I have dual screens, running on an nVidia 8800 GTX, and I can't get the second screen to show up in Screens and Graphics, thus I am stuck to one screen.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:11] <JackPhil> should I need grub-gfxboot? seems not in repos
[08:15] <sudobash> I have a problem with Nvidia, Xorg, and 7.10: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4221601#post4221601
[08:16] <radetsky> no luck, huh?
[08:17] <radetsky> anybody know how to do nontrivial configuration of Totem?
[08:17] <sudobash> no
[08:17] <boykillsworld> anyone good with alsa trying to figure out a way to get rhythmbox to use airport express as a sound card like I did with amarok
[08:17] <sudobash> it is strange the drivers worked yesterday
[08:18] <sudobash> I know also but not airport express
[08:18] <sudobash> or rhythmbox... I use VLC and XMMS
[08:18] <sudobash> alsa*
[08:19] <j0hng4lt> anyone here good with video driver issues?
[08:20] <jbbarnes> I just set up Ubuntu Server 7.10. POP3 works fine, but any client sending mail takes a long time. The server doesn't seem to acknowledge any connection to port 25 for about 20 seconds. Then BAM, it accepts the connection fine. This happens with any e-mail client on any workstation. Even telnetting to port 25 has a 20 second delay. Any ideas? Thanks.
[08:20] <sudobash> I know alsa is compatible with a lot and that you should be able to choose which sound driver to use in the app you are using
[08:20] <sudobash> XMMS is like that
[08:20] <sudobash> with ALSA
[08:21] <sudobash> whats the problem johng4lt
[08:21] <sudobash> i know more about graphics in linux than anything else i guess
[08:21] <j0hng4lt> I have the following graphics cards/video drivers installed:
[08:21] <Genjimoto> Okay, whats a good, hard, test for a linux comp, in terms of gaming capacity?
[08:21] <jbbarnes> The server logs don't even show an attempted connection until about 20 seconds after it is made by the client. Then it accepts it and works fine.
[08:21] <j0hng4lt> 01:08.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] [1002:5144]
[08:21] <Genjimoto> thats free, and dlable?
[08:21] <j0hng4lt> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev c1)
[08:21] <sudobash> Americas Army 2.5
[08:22] <sudobash> you have both john? which one are you using?
[08:22] <Genjimoto> America's army works on linux? thats news to me... cool.
[08:22] <j0hng4lt>  want to multimon in
[08:22] <j0hng4lt> 7.10
[08:22] <sudobash> 2.5 works great
[08:22] <crdlb> j0hng4lt: it's not possible to have 3d acceleration for both (nvidia is evil)
[08:22] <sudobash> better than it did in windows
[08:22] <sudobash> I think
[08:22] <sudobash> but it stops at 2.5 they have 2.8.2 for windows and you can ride in cars
[08:23] <j0hng4lt> I do not need acceleration
[08:23] <sudobash> but my comp wont run 2.8.2
[08:23] <boykillsworld> well do you have it up now without the nvidia drivers
[08:23] <unop> jbbarnes: it's quite likely that reverse DNS lookups are causing the lag -- ensure that your DNS server is functioning well or disable lookups withing the POP3 server
[08:23] <sudobash> you want to use multiple monitors?
[08:23] <j0hng4lt> yes
[08:23] <j0hng4lt> I do in windows all the time
[08:23] <sudobash> its all about the xorg configuration for that john
[08:23] <boykillsworld> I have that working
[08:23] <boykillsworld> with nvidia
[08:23] <sudobash> i used to do it in linux with nvidia also
[08:23] <j0hng4lt> how?
[08:23] <sudobash> it is much easit in windows
[08:24] <Genjimoto> what about America's Army: Special Forces v2.3?
[08:24] <sudobash> but the xorg config is where you configure it
[08:24] <j0hng4lt> and why is my pc speaker beeping with each keystroke?
[08:24] <sudobash> /etc/X11/xorg.conf... and make a backup or multiple
[08:24] <jbbarnes> unop: There is not DNS server within the building, other than the one that belongs to our ISP. Can I disable the reverse lookups within Postfix?
[08:24] <bastid_raZor> j0hng4lt; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then when you finish that do nvidia-settings and set that up.. all done dual monitors works
[08:24] <sudobash> i think they made a 2.3 for linux but 2.5 is the fastest
[08:25] <boykillsworld> no nvidia supplies a tool now it's easy
[08:25] <j0hng4lt> So, cannot do it through the System>Admin>Screens and Graphics
[08:25] <j0hng4lt> ??
[08:25] <boykillsworld> no that screwed it
[08:25] <sudobash> cool
[08:25] <jbbarnes> DoveCot is working fine (delivering messages), so I think it's just Postfix having the issue.
[08:25] <sudobash> Nvidia rocks
[08:25] <unop> jbbarnes: yes, but in all fairness you should configure a DNS server, it's easier to troubleshoot issues
[08:25] <ShinmaIdoru> hi guys, up until a reboot my mouse wheel would scroll through my virtual workspaces when my mouse is over the background, but it stopped working... i tried looking in keybindings and it didnt look weird or anything, anyone have any ideas?
[08:26] <unop> jbbarnes: i dont remember the option, but i guess you can man postconf
[08:26] <crdlb> bastid_raZor: you can't use nvidia-settings to set up xinerama with an ati card
[08:26] <jbbarnes> Unop: thanks for the help. Should I configure the linux box to be the DNS server?
[08:26] <beasty_> morning
[08:26] <sudobash> i just wish i could get my vid accel back so i can play AA
[08:26] <bastid_raZor> crdlb; i thought i saw him say an nVidia card..
[08:26] <unop> jbbarnes: yea, any machine will do
[08:26] <sudobash> since yesterday no nvidia drivers work for me
[08:26] <Genjimoto> oh... and whats that 3d window switcher... Bevel, yes?
[08:26] <crdlb> bastid_raZor: he has an nvidia card and an ati card
[08:27] <sudobash> i am up on latest updates (thats what did it)
[08:27] <bastid_raZor> crdlb; ahh.. i missed that.
[08:27] <ShinmaIdoru> did you guys hear about QTrax? Its from RIAA its going to be their free /legal P2P to download music (banner supported)
[08:27] <jbbarnes> unop: Okay, I'm going to try that now...
[08:27] <ShinmaIdoru> over 25 million tracks I guess
[08:28] <crdlb> Genjimoto: compiz fusion (you're thinking of beryl, but that's deprecated)
[08:28] <Genjimoto> crdlb: ah.... thanks..... .. think its installed by default on desktop versions of ubuntu.
[08:28] <crdlb> yup
[08:28] <sudobash> subash
[08:29] <Genjimoto> so, how do i activate its possibilities?
[08:29] <sudobash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4221601#post4221601
[08:29] <crdlb> Genjimoto: please join #compiz-fusion
[08:29] <j0hng4lt> I am still single monitor - windows looks better by the minute
[08:29] <sudobash> that is a prob i am having
[08:29] <Genjimoto> crdlb, thanks!
[08:30] <j0hng4lt> So, any other suggestions???
[08:30] <travisat> j0hng4lt: google
[08:31] <j0hng4lt> Can I use a generic driver vs. Nvidia?
[08:31] <sudobash> yes
[08:31] <sudobash> in the xorg where it says driver "nvidia" change it to nv
[08:32] <unop> ShinmaIdoru: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23121740-5014239,00.html
[08:32] <sudobash> and backup your xorg.conf first
[08:32] <sudobash> it will be at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <ShinmaIdoru> doh
[08:32] <ShinmaIdoru> lol
[08:32] <j0hng4lt> thx sudobash, let me try
[08:33] <ShinmaIdoru> hi guys, up until a reboot my mouse wheel would scroll through my virtual workspaces when my mouse is over the background, but it stopped working... i tried looking in keybindings and it didnt look weird or anything, anyone have any ideas?
[08:35] <j0hng4lt> the nVidia is showing in System>Admin>Screens and Graphics but only the ATI is in xorg.conf
[08:36] <j0hng4lt> can I ADD the nv driver?
[08:36] <j0hng4lt> (no 3d nec, just want a dev enviroment for PHP)
[08:37] <mkanat> Anybody ever have any luck getting a non-primary soundcard to work for input with Flash?
[08:37] <zombie_monkey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/xmonad-rebuild/0.4-6 -> it has both a version of ghc6 earlier than 6.6.1 and later than it, and sure enough it doesn't install ebcause that dependency can't be satisfied: "  Depends: ghc6 (<6.6.1+) but 6.8.2-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[08:37] <travisat> j0hng4lt: I think the biggest problem is that you are trying to get a ati and a nvidia to work together
[08:38] <zombie_monkey> I mean as a dependency
[08:38] <j0hng4lt> So, althogh they are friends in windows, they cannot be friends in linux?
[08:39] <travisat> j0hng4lt: well no, just unusual so most people won't know how to do it
[08:39] <travisat> j0hng4lt: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors  you might look here, its for gentoo, but you might get it to work in ubuntu
[08:40] <zombie_monkey> Where can I inform about that problem? I can't do anything here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/xmonad-rebuild/0.4-6
[08:41] <marsmissions> i have a huge problem
[08:41] <marsmissions> Sometimes when I kill the x server it hard locks my system
[08:41] <marsmissions> this results in an inability to logout at times
[08:41] <marsmissions> (ubuntu 7.0)
[08:42] <marsmissions> (7.10)
[08:42] <Genjimoto> hmmm..... how do i make use of my windows key? I'd like a linux key. :)
[08:43] <travisat> Genjimoto: in the system/preferences/keyboard you can map the win key to something else
[08:44] <boykillsworld> ok who was trying to do twin view
[08:44] <jt3k> ?sï o? áuol?q ??? ?s?q ?ïo? ll?
[08:44] <jt3k> =) hi all
[08:45] <boykillsworld> well whoever is trying to do twin view
[08:45] <boykillsworld> http://useopensource.blogspot.com/2007/06/gui-to-configure-dual-monitors-nvidia.html
[08:45] <Kuwanger> How do I grab the source for a program through synaptic (or some other app, if synaptic won't work)?
[08:45] <brubelsabs> is there a standard a ubuntu manpage has to look like?
[08:45] <bastid_raZor> Kuwanger; apt-get or aptitude in command line
[08:46] <boykillsworld> kuwanger apt-get update should fix it
[08:48] <boykillsworld> anyone know how to switch sound cards with rhythmbox trying to kick sound over to an airport express got it working with amarok
[08:48] <brubelsabs> bastid_raZor: but in the manpage of aptitude there isnt anything written about "source"
[08:48] <lod__air>  hi, i've installed ubuntu 7.10 on MSI notebook, and i've got the foll. problem: on time to time the display flashes and the system tel's me that it's on battery, but AC is pluged in, after copple of minutes flashes agan an show's that it's on AC again. i've tried on vista and there was no problem. how to solve this issue?
[08:49] <travisat> Kuwanger: apt-src
[08:50] <sudobash> boykillsworld i think you pick the sound card in the ALSA mixer
[08:50] <travisat> Kuwanger: or you can use some apt-get and look on the man page for options on downloading src
[08:50] <sudobash> and there should also be a choice in rhythmbox to pick ALSA device
[08:51] <bastid_raZor> Kuwanger; apt-get source package.name
[08:51] <sudobash> i should says audio device not sound card
[08:51] <bastid_raZor> brubelsabs; apt-get source package.name
[08:52] <Genjimoto> where does firefox usually install itself and its plugins?
[08:54] <ushimitsudoki> I can not boot more often than I can. Boot process just loops. I think the problem is failure to "talk" to my CPU? Please see: http://pastebin.com/m7388d9e4 for some output, need help troubleshooting this!
[08:55] <sudobash> ushimitsudoki what type of pc and mainly: what does it do? loose power?
[08:55] <sudobash> or does it do the same thing every time
[08:55] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: edit the boot to noapic
[08:55] <sudobash> like a real loop or do you think it is loosing power?
[08:56] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: I assumo you aren't overclocking or anything like that
[08:56] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[08:56] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: no overclocking, and this is a desktop
[08:56] <ushimitsudoki> sudobash: the boot process fails and returns to the BIOS POST
[08:57] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: well in your boot options try to turn off apic, that is where it looks like it is failing
[08:57] <sudobash> so it gives a HD error like missing boot sector?
[08:57] <travisat> sudobash: he posted on pastebin, fails on apic check
[08:57] <ushimitsudoki> sudobash: not, the output is at http://pastebin.com/m7388d9e4
[08:57] <sudobash> i missed that part
[08:59] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: to add noapic, on grub on the kernel choice hit e, then e, and at end of line type in noapic then enter and b
[09:00] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: if it works you will need to edit your grub menu.lst to make it permanent
[09:00] <Fusker_The_Cat> I need some help with alsa mixer
[09:01] <travisat> ushimitsudoki:  it is most likely a mobo error so you might look for a bios upgrade, or if you just did one, downgrade back to what it was before
[09:01] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: roger that ... but the power thing is ACPI right? and the CPU line is APIC? Confused that they are so close
[09:01] <travisat> apic is not acpi
[09:01] <icesword> hoho
[09:01] <icesword> here am i
[09:01] <icesword> i am in #ubuntu now
[09:02] <dandre> hello,
[09:02] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: right, in the boot process there are a few ACPI lines, and then the lines with the CPU stuff use APCI
[09:02] <icesword> my xchat got expired ,it is just too bad
[09:02] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: er, APIC I mean
[09:02] <Fusker_The_Cat> Can anyone help me
[09:02] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: yah apic is about interrupts for the cpu, you want them to work, but they are not necessary
[09:03] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: ok, but APIC is what is failing I thought from the output?
[09:03] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: So, will ACPI make any difference there?
[09:04] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: you are not doing anyting to acpi, just apic
[09:04] <travisat> noapic will not affect acpi
[09:04] <lod__air> hi, i've installed ubuntu 7.10 on MSI notebook, and i've got the foll. problem: on time to time the display flashes and the system tel's me that it's on battery, but AC is pluged in, after copple of minutes flashes agan an show's that it's on AC again. i've tried on vista and there was no problem. how to solve this issue?
[09:04] <travisat> ushimitsudoki: if you have problems just google for noacpi I gotta go afk
[09:04] <ushimitsudoki> travisat: kk
[09:05] <erUSUL> !anyone | Fusker_The_Cat
[09:05] <ubotu> Fusker_The_Cat: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:05] <ochosi> does anyone now whether it makes a big difference if i chgrp the files in my home folder from $user to root?
[09:06] <Seveas> ochosi, it'll be useless but shouldn't hurt too much
[09:06] <Fusker_The_Cat> Ok, Alsa mixer is not working for me, when i load it, it comes up with a blank screen.
[09:06] <ochosi> Seveas: well, seems that my rsync script would like it a lot better (it's syncing to a fat32-usb drive)
[09:06] <Fusker_The_Cat> I'll pastebin somethings about the soundcard im using
[09:06] <groovingsoul> hi all
[09:07] <ochosi> Seveas: but anyways: is there even any possible after-effect?
[09:07] <groovingsoul> Q: Anyone using Rosegarden, please pm me
[09:07] <dandre> sorry if this is a little offtopic but I have an application that I can run because I need to set some environment variables before. I'd like to create a derivative of this application by encapsulating it in some sort of executable archive with a wrapper that could set these variables before running the real application.
[09:07] <dandre> Is there any solution?
[09:08] <ochosi> dandre: with "executalbe archive" you're referring to a shellscript?
[09:08] <dandre> something like that
[09:09] <nep> anyone have idea about  Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[09:09] <dandre> but I need to have only one file (application+wrapper) ochosi
[09:10] <Fusker_The_Cat> ubotu: http://pastebin.com/m17f3325d
[09:10] <ochosi> dandre: well that's what simple shell scripts usually are. one file.
[09:10] <Intangibleliquid> its been a while since I last came back to my old PC. Now I cannot update/install/etc new software anymore. The system keeps telling me it's up to date. My Firefox is still working with the Internet.
[09:10] <enyc> 20:36 -!- ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has quit ["Ctrl-C at console."]
[09:10] <enyc> !brokenflash
[09:10] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:11] <enyc> ok weird bot working now
[09:11] <ochosi> if you send me the "wrapper" and name of the executable of the program i can maybe pastebin you a quick shellscript
[09:11] <Fusker_The_Cat> ok this is useless
[09:11] <zombie_monkey> what is the easiest way to make the wondows key mod1 and switch control and caps lock?
[09:12] <groovingsoul> anyone using the JACK audio server?
[09:12] <zombie_monkey> I mean in X
[09:14] <mather> groovingsoul: i am
[09:14] <groovingsoul> i need help in how to get it
[09:14] <_coredump_> moinsen
[09:14] <dandre> ok say that my application is a binary executable file (application). I can't run directly this file by
[09:14] <dandre> ./appliication
[09:14] <dandre> but I must do something like:
[09:14] <dandre> EXPORT MYVAR=some_conf;./application
[09:14] <dandre> I am searching some solution that could create another file that embed the file application and when run should export MYVAR. Of coures it is a little more complicated but here is the idea
[09:14] <FloodBot1> dandre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:14] <belracu> i hear that montavista is going to fill in a case against microsoft vista to change there product name Vista
[09:15] <belracu> does any one have updates about that news
[09:15] <groovingsoul> mather:is there any website with the Jack pluged in? (ready to download, and setup)
[09:15] <F1r3ok> hi all
[09:15] <mather> groovingsoul: how to get it? either search for it in synaptic or use the commandline, something like 'sudo apt-get install jack'
[09:16] <whalesalad> hey guys, about to place an order for a dedicted server. traditioanlly i roll with the standard 32-bit Ubuntu server, but in this case I am thinking of going with the 64-bit edition. I'm not too familiar with what that gives me though. What is the advantage of the 64-bit processor and os? And will I run into any kind of problems down the line with package compatibility, etc.. going that route. ?
[09:16] <Darth0wned> hi
[09:16] <groovingsoul> will try, i allready have rosegarden and many other tools, couldn see that one
[09:16] <Darth0wned> i have installed ubuntu to an external drive, as the main drive is windows xp, the problem is that when i installed it i could no longer boot xp or the linux, and it doesnt even recognise my internal hard drive, i dont know what to do, because every time i try to use the xp recovery console, at the windows setup disk, but the keyboard wont work when it gets there.
[09:16] <Darth0wned> i need help because i cant use that pc .
[09:17] <F1r3ok> I'm a complete newbuy to Linux. I have installed ubuntu and want to try Beryl desktop. Can anyone recomend some good tutorial about the Beryl installation?
[09:17] <Genjimoto> F1r3ok, the Beryl package has been superseeded by Compiz Fusion... which rocks!
[09:17] <travisat> F1r3ok: beryl is outdated, gutsy should of came with compiz-fusion, to get beryl themes to work look for emerald installations
[09:17] <Darth0wned> so who can help me
[09:18] <belracu> F1r3ok, check if ur video hardware has support for fancy stuff before
[09:18] <belracu> and rest google should help ya
[09:18] <Darth0wned> so who can help me
[09:19] <Darth0wned> i have installed ubuntu to an external drive, as the main drive is windows xp, the problem is that when i installed it i could no longer boot xp or the linux, and it doesnt even recognise my internal hard drive, i dont know what to do, because every time i try to use the xp recovery console, at the windows setup disk, but the keyboard wont work when it gets there.
[09:19] <Darth0wned> i need help because i cant use that pc .
[09:20] <nep> anyone just suggest whether we can get work on Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[09:20] <belracu> Darth0wned, you should try to install grub in ur internal hdd and switch among the boot options
[09:20] <dgjones> Darth0wned, sounds like you might need to ask in ##windows first to solve the problem getting windows to boot so you can use the pc, and once you've got that sorted, come back here to get your Ubuntu system working
[09:20] <jqk> nep: Yes, with the help of ndiswrapper.
[09:20] <Darth0wned> k
[09:21] <belracu> the trouble is cause xppee s loader is not capable ..or does not allow u to boot other OS
[09:21] <nep> jqk, but I can't do it,
[09:21] <jqk> nep:  Why is that?
[09:21] <groovingsoul> Darthowned: restart your computer, press the  F8 key to select safe mode, and log in, that will fix it, iif that doesn't fix it, restart F2 for the Bios, and select to start with the hard drive with linux in
[09:21] <nep> jqk, any idea, how can I get the suitable inf file,
[09:21] <nep> jqk, I haven't windows drivers cd,
[09:21] <belracu> I guess Darth0wned loader is screwed
[09:22] <nep> jqk, can it be done thru bcm43xx-cutter
[09:22] <icesword> Darth0wned: you ve got two ways to fix this,that depends what kind of mbr you want grub or windows
[09:22] <F1r3ok> I didn't manage to find any information about Nvidia 8500 supporting Beryl... Is it possible to get Beryl work on this video-card?
[09:22] <koudelka> hableis espananios
[09:23] <jqk> nep:  You can try it with bcm43xx-fwcutter, never used it, but it works under ndiswrapper.. you can get the driver online..
[09:23] <Darth0wned> groovingsoul: it doesnt recognise the windows hard drive in the bios any more so i cant boot in safe mode, also the linux drive doesnt work
[09:23] <jqk> !spainish | koudelka
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spainish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <koudelka> que?
[09:23] <jqk> koudelka: #Ubuntu-es
[09:23] <icesword> Darth0wned: you need the windows install cd
[09:24] <jqk> !es | koudelka
[09:24] <ubotu> koudelka: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:24] <Darth0wned> icesword: i have it
[09:24] <nep> jqk, can u please give me link
[09:24] <jqk> nep:  To what? ndiswrapper or fwcutter?
[09:24] <icesword> just use that to start your computer ,when first screen ,usually press r
[09:24] <nep> jqk, ndiswrapper
[09:25] <Darth0wned> i cant the keyboard doesnt work
[09:25] <Darth0wned> when i do it
[09:25] <Darth0wned> the keyboard all of a sudden dont work when i press r
[09:25] <jqk> !ndiswrapper | nep
[09:25] <ubotu> nep: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:25] <icesword> why is it
[09:25] <Darth0wned> i have no idea
[09:25] <jqk> nep:  and http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[09:25] <icesword> hey, i will be away for something,so guys ,have a good time
[09:25] <Darth0wned> k
[09:26] <groovingsoul> mather:it was as easy as that, ty very much mate, i'm starting to check ot the jack, and the rosegarden features right now
[09:26] <brubelsabs> where to put whole distributions accoriding to FHS? /var?
[09:28] <brubelsabs> no I think /srv would be a better choice if they are used by a service
[09:29] <Darth0wned> im getting a GRUB error when loading windows o.0
[09:29] <spidermankevin> IM AN UBUNTU newbee i need help
[09:30] <mather> groovingsoul: np
[09:30] <desertc> Any suggestions where to start looking for common reasons that GNOME would crash out when a full screen application starts?
[09:30] <erUSUL> !asik | spidermankevin
[09:30] <erUSUL> !ask | spidermankevin
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <ubotu> spidermankevin: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:32] <Darth0wned> im getting a GRUB error when loading windows o.0
[09:32] <spidermankevin> i hooked my pc running ubuntu to my pc rinning vista ubuntu well not connect to the internet says my ip is 0.0.0.0.0
[09:32] <spidermankevin> on vista says ip is 192.168.0.1
[09:33] <Darth0wned> dont tell ppl ure ip
[09:33] <Darth0wned> not safe lol
[09:33] <spidermankevin> it's net adresses lol not my  main ip
[09:33] <npster> exactly, Darth0wned
[09:33] <Starnestommy> 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.255.255 is a private block.
[09:34] <travisat> 123-2-48-222.static.dsl.dodo.com.au really Darth
[09:34] <Darth0wned> XD
[09:34] <Darth0wned> im good with irc
[09:34] <Darth0wned> so i could get ip adress easily
[09:34] <travisat> the magic of the /whois command
[09:34] <Poul|Raider> I installed my nvidia drivers, and it all looked nice, i set up it up as i liked in nvidia-settings and saved it the xorg.conf. and then after reboot it start up in low graphic mode. If i install the driver again, it looks fine until restarted again? anyone?
[09:34] <Darth0wned> gotta lov eit
[09:34] <Darth0wned> so who can help me with my prob
[09:35] <Darth0wned> you guys forget about me lol
[09:35] <travisat> didn't forget, just don't know how to help
[09:35] <desertc> Poul|Raider:  Maybe try the Ubuntu restricted drivers instead
[09:35] <Darth0wned> sigh
[09:36] <Darth0wned> i look in bios and the windows drive is not listed any mroe
[09:36] <spidermankevin> is dhcp not possable in this sitchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:36] <Darth0wned> is that caz of the grub accidentily being installed to the windws drive
[09:36] <Darth0wned> caz thats what i figured happened
[09:36] <groovingsoul> Poul|Raider look on the right cornrt of your top toolbar, were the clock is, is there a pixelated graphic card?
[09:36] <Poul|Raider> desertc, dont see any reason to, it works fine with nvidia drivers. Just cant figure out why it change it when restarting. I could even resstart the xserver without it goign back to low graphic mode
[09:36] <groovingsoul> corner*
[09:37] <Poul|Raider> groovingsoul, no but it says it already use the restricted driver. properly whats making it go wronge as it set it to that instead of just use the drivers i just installed, it worked fine before restart
[09:37] <spidermankevin> vista says it's connected limated
[09:38] <StrangeCharm_> what's the correct way to set up encrypted volumes on the alt-cd. whenever i try to do so, i always seem to get 'operating system not found' on boot
[09:38] <N> hello~
[09:39] <Syntux> When I run System -> Help and Support; which files does Yelp open?
[09:40] <beasty_> Yelp ?
[09:40] <beasty_> isn't that suse ?
[09:41] <RomeReactor> beasty_: I think you're thinking of Yast
[09:42] <theLichKing> what is the integral of (6x + 1) / sqrt(9-x^2) dx?
[09:42] <travisat> this isn't math help channel
[09:43] <theLichKing> oh rly?
[09:43] <theLichKing> which is?
[09:43] <Genjimoto> yay! got flashplayer going.. and my soundcard..
[09:43] <travisat> i dunno try #math
[09:43] <theLichKing> thanks
[09:43] <travisat> or #Isuckatcalculus
[09:43] <Syntux> beasty, No, it's gnome help reader application
[09:43] <theLichKing> can i ask in offtopic?
[09:43] <RomeReactor> Syntux: It's using the file "dir" in /usr/share/info
[09:44] <travisat> probably you can most likely ask here, but you really ought to do your homework on your own
[09:44] <Syntux> RomeReactor, I thought so too but it's not.
[09:45] <Poul|Raider> i got win xp and ubuntu running, and booting up useing grup menu. What happens if i format my winxp disk and install vista, vill it overwrite the grupmenu thing?
[09:45] <robin> hi guys
[09:45] <theLichKing> yes
[09:45] <travisat> Poul|Raider: yah
[09:45] <travisat> Poul|Raider: but it is easy to install again
[09:45] <Poul|Raider> good
[09:46] <robin> i am trying to install skype 1.4 into my ubuntu5.10, but it doesn't work, i made some research from google ,but doesn't help , can anyone there help me?
[09:47] <shear> hmm, "at" doesn't seem to be working for me
[09:47] <shear> trying to use it as an alarm clock
[09:47] <Poul|Raider> still not able to figure out whats making it fuck up the xorg stuff for me. I install my drivers, i looks good. I can restart the xserver, ctrl alt blackspace and still look good. And after reboot its back to low graphic mode, and when going to nvidia-settings i says its not useing nvidia driver
[09:48] <desertc> !ohmy Poul|Raider
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy poul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <desertc> !ohmy  | Poul|Raider
[09:48] <ubotu> Poul|Raider: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <theLichKing> Poul|Raider: shut up dirty ape
[09:48] <Poul|Raider> ...
[09:49]  * syc_ brb, ngrokok dulu
[09:49] <sapperjanko> hey all, i got a little problem... Im in the vi editor... what are the commands, eg, to edit lines, save, and exit
[09:49] <Reno> hey can someone help me, i have installed ubuntu not the server, and it works fine until the power went off and now it won't start up
[09:49] <SleepingSloth> Poul|Raider, I had the same problem - mine was fixed in xorg.conf
[09:49] <Reno> what to do?
[09:50] <N> While peeling a right struggle, the monitor screen will be strange and will decrease and to get Anh it is spread
[09:50] <N> help me
[09:50] <travisat> sapperjanko: i to enter interactive mode so you can edit, edit like you want, then esc the type :wq to save
[09:50] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth, ye i just cant figure out whats wronge
[09:50] <SleepingSloth> Poul|Raider, are you using two monitors?
[09:50] <Poul|Raider> nope
[09:50] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth, no
[09:50] <travisat> sapperjanko: I suggest using nano or finding a good lesson on vi, I use vi all the time, but it takes a bit of learning
[09:51] <Seveas> travisat, vimtutor should help :)
[09:51] <travisat> I like the oreilly book on vi
[09:51] <sudobash> vi is good but i like nano
[09:52] <sudobash> easier to use I think
[09:52] <sapperjanko> travissat: yea well im only a n00b so doin some tutorials, and this one im doin is usin vi, i was using nano -w for some others
[09:52] <sudobash> but vi is better about preserving the original data
[09:52] <StrangeCharm_> does the ubuntu alt-install cd suffer from this error: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/RAIDvsCrypto?highlight=%28Raid%29
[09:52] <SleepingSloth> Poul|Raider, you'll need to edit it to get rid of the two screens, but i'll post mine, one sec
[09:52] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth, its almost like it just dont use the xorg.conf
[09:52] <travisat> ok well you first have to learn there are different edditing modes, on for moving about text and another for actually changing the text
[09:53] <NAiL> I'm getting an Oops on a relatively simple feisty setup: http://pastebin.ca/875776
[09:53] <sapperjanko> travisat: how do you delete a line LOL
[09:53] <NAiL> Anyone seen it before?
[09:53] <travisat> sapperjanko: dd deletes a whole line in visual mode
[09:53] <sapperjanko> ahh sweet
[09:53] <travisat> oh I might be getting the mode names wrong btw
[09:53] <Seveas> travisat, vi has 2 modes: one where you can't exit and one where it fucks up your text :)
[09:54] <travisat> Seveas: well when nano allows regex i will use it
[09:54] <Seveas> (travisat, I'm a happy vi user btw, just love ridiculing everything)
[09:54] <SleepingSloth> Poul|Raider, some module or something is probably causing a problem i'm no expert, but this might help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53841/
[09:55] <sapperjanko> NOTE TO SELF.... use nano till i learn more about ubuntu FULL STOP LOL
[09:55] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth, taking a look
[09:55] <NAiL> sapperjanko: wise choice :-P
[09:55] <travisat> Seveas: I use gvim on windows
[09:55] <franco> algum brazuca?
[09:55] <sapperjanko> its FUN when ya just a n00b and get it just installed yesterday
[09:56] <Seveas> !br | franco
[09:56] <ubotu> franco: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[09:56] <franco> ok
[09:56] <shear> any idea why "echo amarok -p | at 7:30 today" wouldn't work?
[09:56] <SleepingSloth> can we keep the hypocrisy to a minimum please - if you're going to chastise language from one person, lets keep it consistant, shall we?
[09:57] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth, just find it funny that i can restart the xserver after installing the driver without it confligting and first after reboot
[09:57] <shear> ok, try this again, while i'm connected to the internet...
[09:58] <shear> any idea why "echo amarok -p | at 7:30 today" wouldn't work?
[09:58] <awk> anyone have a sugestion of how i can install subversion on a breezy box?
[09:58] <travisat> apt-get install subversion?
[09:59] <Seveas> awk, that would be way too obvious :)
[09:59] <awk> breezy, does the repository still exsist
[09:59] <Seveas> breezy isn't supported anymore
[09:59] <N> why The install is not ubuntu,monitor Screen black ? help
[09:59] <awk> exactly.. any repo u know of that still carries these packages?
[09:59] <doktoreas> how can i add files to customized ubuntu livecd?
[09:59] <travisat> awk: compile it yourself?
[09:59] <awk> cant dont have build-essential installed
[10:00] <SleepingSloth> Poul|Raider, i can't offer an explanation. if i were you, i'd save your existing xorg.conf, try using mine (with monitor and screen adjustments) = and see if you still end up in low gfx mode. if you do, your problem, most likely, does not match the one i had
[10:00] <awk> otherwise i have to start from scrach and install all compilerd, etc..
[10:00] <awk> compilers even
[10:00] <travisat> awk: well you can try to use one from say dapper and hope or find one for I think debian sarge
[10:00] <travisat> awk: I would just upgrade the system
[10:01] <awk> travisat well who ever built this box is an idiot for using that version of ubuntu as a server build
[10:02] <travisat> awk: completely agree at that time debian was the way for an apt based server
[10:02] <shear> nobody has any clue why at would be misbehaving?
[10:02] <shear> yay
[10:03] <awk> travisat http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=540963
[10:03] <awk> found some alive breezy repos :)
[10:03] <travisat> wow, gl
[10:03] <icesword> i am curious that, how many percentage of desktop computer is microsoft in all your countries
[10:04] <simion314> hi, i  am working at a project in openoffice and i use times font , i inserted some courrier lines and now i can;t find the times font to continue, if someone can explain me how or where can i find a solution
[10:05] <shear> simion314: in the menu, you can just type Time New Roman, and it will work
[10:05] <shear> font menu
[10:05] <shear> sorry
[10:05] <sapperjanko> oh just another quick question... how do i remove a package
[10:05] <gvsa123> sapperjanko: from synaptic
[10:06] <travisat> apt-get remove foo
[10:06] <sapperjanko> yea was thinking something like that.... REMEMBER n00b here
[10:06] <bullgard4> Calling kexi a second time will start a second kexi process but calling epiphany a second time will not start a second epiphany process. Why do these two programs behave differently?
[10:07] <travisat> sudoubungu: foo is just a placeholder, I was not calling you a foo
[10:07] <travisat> bullgard4: they are different programs so one can expect them to act differently
[10:07] <shear> and kalarm is jank too. all i want to do is have my computer wake me up.
[10:08] <travisat> bullgard4: epiphany probably checks for running instances and won't start 2 of them
[10:08] <ToyPanther> Hi
[10:08] <travisat> shear: hide an alarm clock inside of the computer
[10:08] <ToyPanther> Anyone using KDevelop here? x_x
[10:08] <simion314> shear: thx, it worked but it do not  showed up in that drop down list box
[10:08] <bullgard4> travisat: Well, if so, why doesn't kexi check that too?
[10:08] <shear> simion314: i know it doesn't, but i don't know why. found out by accident
[10:09] <travisat> bullgard4: whoever wrote kexi didn't feel like adding it
[10:09] <shear> travisat: reason i want to use the computer is the actual alarm clock decided to die
[10:09] <travisat> shear: haha
[10:09] <yellabs> hello there you all
[10:09] <shear> travisat: so i'm awake at 3:10 trying to find somethin to get me up in the monrning
[10:09] <travisat> shear: lol I guess I shouldn't suggest cron then
[10:09] <ardchoille> hehe
[10:09] <yellabs> is there an dvd live cdrom that has ubuntu and kubuntu on one cd
[10:10] <SleepingSloth> travisat, hah. cronjob written at 3.10 is unlikely to run, i'd guess...
[10:10] <shear> didn't really want to use cron, but i might. i'm just confused as to why at won't work
[10:10] <bullgard4> travisat: Linux programs are no matter of feel.
[10:10] <yellabs> that you all know of
[10:10] <yellabs> add your program to gnome sessions
[10:10] <travisat> bullgard4: sure they are, I could write a linux program right now, and if I felt like I could have it check user name and if it was your user name it wouldn't start
[10:11] <void^> bullgard4: 2 different programs behave differently. also, epiphany is a gnome application, kexi a kde application. there is absolutely no reason to expect those programs to behave in a similar fashion.
[10:12] <yellabs> ?
[10:12] <travisat> yellabs: ?
[10:12] <unop_> ?++
[10:12] <ardchoille> yellabs: There is no livedvd that has ubuntu and kubuntu that I know of
[10:13] <yellabs> i just made an costum version livecd , running it right now, i was wondering what to do next...
[10:13] <yellabs> lol
[10:13] <albech> im about to upgrade my video driver, but i cant find nvidia go drivers for GeForce Go 7400
[10:13] <SleepingSloth> bullgard4, of course they are - they're written for free. if the developer feels like taking a particular course of action, he will. if the community at large decides to add or change functionality. simple answer. if you don't like it, change it....
[10:14] <hetauma> hi I deleted the linux partition and now I can'
[10:14] <albech> they only have new versions of the Go models
[10:14] <josiahw> how do I convert a batch of images from .ppm to .jpg?
[10:14] <mols> Hello. I have many ppp connections(ppp0, ppp1, ppp2.). How to kill only ppp0?
[10:14] <josiahw> or extract all images from a pdf into .jpg format
[10:14] <hetauma> hi I deleted the linux partition and now I can't boot windows. I don't have a windows cd so I can "fixmbr" is there any way to fix mbr from a linux live cd ?
[10:15] <albech> mols: do an ifconfig to see which ones are running
[10:15] <unop__> ardchoille: when you download the ubuntu DVD (not counting the alternate DVD), is that not a live DVD?
[10:15] <carl> anyone here know how to get mapi going on evolution ???
[10:15] <unop__> ardchoille: when you download the ubuntu DVD (not counting the alternate DVD), is that not a live DVD?
[10:16] <albech> you can shut them down by '/etc/init.d/net.ppp# stop
[10:16] <ardchoille> unop: the livedvd is a conglomeration of the desktop, alternate and server livecd's
[10:16] <carl> a repository and some stuff containing all that is needed
[10:16] <yellabs> hetauma read here for your problem and solution http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t365026.html
[10:16] <yellabs> hope it helps
[10:17] <unop__> ardchoille: but it allows you to run live sessions right?
[10:17] <ardchoille> Unicron: the boot menu will allow you to boot into the desktop live environment, or the server text-based installer, or the alternate text-based installer
[10:18] <ardchoille> unop:  the boot menu will allow you to boot into the desktop live environment, or the server text-based installer, or the alternate text-based installer
[10:18] <ardchoille> I'll have to stop relying on tab completion, lol
[10:18] <icesword> ardchoille: why is it
[10:19] <shear> sleep `echo "60*60*6" | bc`; amarok -p
[10:19] <ardchoille> icesword: That's just the way they made the livedvd
[10:19] <shear> that should do the trick
[10:19] <yellabs> oh nice command
[10:19] <yellabs> does the livedvd have kubuntu on it too
[10:19]  * shear can finally sleep, also, as well
[10:20] <yellabs> or just plain ubuntu
[10:20] <shear> night all
[10:20] <josiahw> anybody?
[10:20] <ardchoille> yellabs: The ubuntu livedvd does not include kubuntu
[10:20] <stephen-mason> hey guyyssss
[10:21] <stephen-mason> i have vmware server, how do i install windows into it?
[10:21] <yellabs> josiahw, whats up
[10:22] <KevinK> download/buy a windows cd image (iso-format)
[10:22] <stephen-mason> cant i do it from cd?
[10:22] <KevinK> create a new virutal maschine
[10:22] <KevinK> tell vmware to use the iso-image
[10:22] <KevinK> define a harddisk
[10:22] <KevinK> and click play
[10:22] <Bruum> Hello.. Im using Linsys wirless router / Pci card in my ubuntu pc.. And for some reason i can only download with 100kb/sec from server i know are faster.. i have normaly 430kb/sec with my laptop using the same wirless router.. Someone know if the drivers who come with ubuntu are stabil?
[10:22] <josiahw> yellabs: I have about 1000 .ppm images I extracted from a pdf... i need them to be .jpg
[10:22] <KevinK> you can do it
[10:22] <KevinK> put your cd in your drive
[10:22] <NAiL> How can I prevent some "strategic" modules from loading at boot? eg. soundcore, usbcore, fbcon, vesafb?
[10:22] <stephen-mason> when i clicked play it just went to play and then stoped again
[10:22] <KevinK> and define the drive
[10:23] <josiahw> yellabs: so i either need a batch image converter or a way to extract all images from pdf into .jpg
[10:23] <KevinK> in the new vm
[10:23] <KevinK> and click play
[10:23] <stephen-mason> you mind if i IM you kevinK?
[10:23] <albech> whats the difference with installing Nvidia Go drivers and normal Nvidia drivers?
[10:23] <unop__> ardchoille: i wonder why kde apps are listed in the DVD then? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/hardy-dvd-i386.list
[10:23] <albech> the go drivers enable better powersaving?
[10:23] <KevinK> no, i dont mind
[10:24] <ardchoille> unop: Ah, that's Hardy Herron, I don't know much about that release yet.
[10:24] <yellabs> josiahw, your read is here http://www.mohdshakir.net/2007/11/06/nikon-d40x-in-ubuntu-linux
[10:24] <Bruum> !help linksys | Bruum
[10:24] <ardchoille> unop: You might wanna join #ubuntu+1 and ask there.
[10:24] <yellabs> ppmtojpeg convert
[10:24] <yellabs> good luck
[10:25] <yellabs> !ppmtojpeg
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppmtojpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Bruum> !linksys | Bruum
[10:25] <yellabs> hmm, any way , i am of to work
[10:25] <yellabs> bye all
[10:25] <Bruum> Hello.. Im using Linsys wirless router / Pci card in my ubuntu pc.. And for some reason i can only download with 100kb/sec from server i know are faster.. i have normaly 430kb/sec with my laptop using the same wirless router.. Someone know if the drivers who come with ubuntu are stabil?
[10:25] <unop__> ardchoille: well, that doesn't explain this then :) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.list
[10:26] <josiahw> yellabs: thank you
[10:27] <ardchoille> unop_: It could be that the info I read was in error, I don't know.
[10:27] <unop__> ardchoille: it's ok, i'm just curious to know why a DVD wouldnt include both gnome and kde -- but ti appears that they both are
[10:27] <doktoreas> hello
[10:27] <doktoreas> i noticed that keeping a page with flash movie open with firefox
[10:28] <ardchoille> unop_: I bet you can download the lidvd and find out :)
[10:28] <doktoreas> raise the memory used by it
[10:28] <doktoreas> and also cpu
[10:28] <Macen> does ubuntu have php5.2.5 available from it's YUM?
[10:28] <ardchoille> Macen: s/yum/apt/  ;)
[10:28] <unop__> ardchoille: i'm not so interested in kde or gnome to be honest .. let alone a DVD full of the two
[10:28] <Macen> does apt have php5.2.5 available?
[10:28] <travisat> Macen: I beleive so
[10:29] <Macen> great
[10:29] <Macen> so
[10:29] <cwe_PutiecH> HAI.........................................kENALAN??????
[10:29] <unop__> Macen: http://packages.ubuntu.com to find out for sure
[10:29] <travisat> wait im only seeing 5.2.3
[10:30] <ardchoille> Macen: Open a terminal and type: apt-cache policy php5
[10:30] <iNtERrUpT> Hi all
[10:30] <inspired> hi. is java + firefox on amd64 not possible without 32-bit firefox?
[10:30] <travisat> I just used aptitude show php5 and it is 5.2.3
[10:30] <travisat> on gutsy
[10:30] <unop__> it seems 5.2.3 is the latest on gutsy
[10:30] <Macen> what are the major differences between centos and ubuntu?
[10:30] <kijjaz> Hi. I'm using scons to compile an application for ubuntu gutsy. It says Checking for C library jpeg... no, ERROR: 'jpeg' must be installed! .. What is the package i need for "jpeg library"?
[10:30] <Macen> yea i see lots of 5.2.3's
[10:31] <travisat> Macen: they are different
[10:31] <Macen> in what way?
[10:31] <unop__> Macen: centos is a redhat/fedora derivative, ubuntu is a debian derivative
[10:31] <Macen> what does that mean though? very different commands?
[10:31] <Macen> i'm currently using rhel4
[10:31] <Macen> not overly impressed really
[10:31] <Macen> am i in for a learning curve with ubuntu?
[10:32] <stephen-mason> whats the best bittorrent client for linux?
[10:32] <travisat> Macen: not commands, but configs and filesystem layout can be a little different, also package manager, I think it is a matter of preference
[10:32] <ardchoille> Macen: CentOS is based on Red Hat, which uses rpm/YUM. Ubuntu is based on debian, which uses deb/apt
[10:32] <inspired> kijjaz, apt-cache search libjpeg
[10:32] <SleepingSloth> Macen: not in my experience
[10:32] <inspired> stephen-mason, Deluge or Transmission
[10:32] <inspired> I use Deluge. I love it
[10:32] <SleepingSloth> stephen-mason,  i second that, deluge rocks
[10:32] <travisat> Macen: I find it easier to do stuff in the command line in debian based systems, but that is most likely because I know them better
[10:32] <stephen-mason> where would i download that?
[10:32] <Macen> does ubuntu have rsync?
[10:32] <travisat> Macen: yes
[10:33] <SleepingSloth> sudo apt-get deuge, stephen-mason
[10:33] <unop__> Macen: centos and ubuntu have the same linux commands but the commands could differ when it comes to administration
[10:33] <unop__> Macen: yes, almost every distro has rsync
[10:33] <albech> how do i reboot my ubuntu in command line only?
[10:33] <ardchoille> Macen: fwiw, I have an 8 year old niece who tried Fedora and Ubuntu, she ended up sticking with Ubuntu
[10:33] <travisat> the biggest difference I have noticed is in /etc
[10:33] <unop__> albech: sudo shutdown -r now
[10:33] <albech> unop__: thanks
[10:33] <travisat> albech: sudo reboot
[10:33] <Macen> ubuntu is a bit alien to me
[10:34] <travisat> fedora/redhat is a bit alien to me :)
[10:34] <unop__> Macen: not surprising if you havent used it :)
[10:34] <stephen-mason> i get invalid operation deuge?
[10:34] <SleepingSloth> stephen-mason, my mistake, that should have said sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent
[10:34] <ardchoille> Macen: Anything new is going to feel a bit alien, but Ubuntu is easy to learn
[10:34] <Macen> yes
[10:34] <josiahw> can you use * to represent all files in a dir? Example: pnmtojpeg /images/*.pnm *.jpg
[10:34] <stephen-mason> thankyou, :)
[10:34] <SleepingSloth> stephen-mason,  no worries
[10:34] <unop__> josiahw: thats probably not going to do what you expect
[10:35] <stephen-mason> what about an application similar to dreamweaver?
[10:35] <ardchoille> josiahw: yes, that will process all .pnm images
[10:35] <travisat> josiahw: * and spaces in file names causes problems
[10:35] <unop__> josiahw: for i in /path/to/*.pnm; do pnm2jpg $i ${i/pnm/jpg}; done
[10:35] <ardchoille> unop__: Nice :)
[10:36] <SleepingSloth> stephen-mason, it depends - what dreamweaver functionality do you need?
[10:36] <unop__> ardchoille: I dont think his command will do it, the shell is not going to glob *.jpg if they dont exist
[10:36] <kijjaz> inspired: oh thanks. now it's done thanks.
[10:37] <stephen-mason> i mainly use the css dialog boxes so i dont have to type it, lol, so something simmilar
[10:37] <josiahw> unop__: what do you mean for i?
[10:37] <travisat> josiahw: just type in what he said
[10:37] <josiahw> what does the i represent
[10:37] <unop__> josiahw: thats part of the command
[10:37] <groovingsoul> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:37] <groovingsoul> , Could anyone tell me hoy to run that from the dpkg directorie? , which command i have to write on the console?
[10:37] <josiahw> ah
[10:37] <josiahw> unop__: thank you
[10:37] <unop__> josiahw: i represents a variable
[10:37] <ardchoille> josiahw: "for i in" means "do this for each file in the directory"
[10:37] <travisat> groovingsoul: in terminal run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:38] <josiahw> ah
[10:38] <groovingsoul> ty, was quite easy, doesn't it xD
[10:38] <unop__> josiahw: if your file names have spaces, you might need to quote $i
[10:38] <albech> hmm
[10:38] <travisat> unop__: even then it might not work
[10:38] <albech> i wanted to restart my system so it wasnt in X
[10:38] <albech> so i can  install a new Nvidia driver
[10:38] <unop__> travisat: why?
[10:38] <ardchoille> josiahw: You can also use "a" or "j" or "g" instead of i as long as you keep track of what your variables are doing and keep them seperated
[10:39] <travisat> unop__: depends on how pnm2jpg handles spaces and filenames
[10:39] <albech> how do i reboot my system so it only boots in a terminal window with no X started
[10:39] <unop__> travisat: but if you quoted them, i dont see a problem  -  for i in /path/to/*.pnm; do pnm2jpg "$i" "${i/pnm/jpg}"; done
[10:40] <albech> anyone?
[10:40] <groovingsoul> damm, it's about a serial device for fax-printting, can i have any model? (i have no fax at all)
[10:40] <travisat> unop__: it probably will work, I just know spaces can cause headaches
[10:41] <unop__> travisat: spaces do cause headaches, which is why you should _always_ quote variables to be safe
[10:41] <albech> how can i kill X without restarting it, so i get a terminal
[10:41] <albech> ?
[10:41] <travisat> albech: sude /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:41] <SleepingSloth> stephen-mason, i have a feeling the closest match is to use eclipse, then install a plugin for it called erk, hang on... but your best bet is probably to try some of the options from the repositories, and see which one(s) suit you
[10:41] <travisat> albech: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:42] <travisat> albech: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to get it going againg
[10:43] <stephen-mason> i have installed flash player but its not working?
[10:43] <stephen-mason> :S
[10:43] <travisat> !flash
[10:43] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:43] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:43] <travisat> stephen-mason: there is a deb for gutsy floating around that works
[10:44] <icesword> does wine support rpcss service of m$
[10:45] <ardchoille> Is it not a good idea to install the flash player from the mozilla site? I did that and it works great. But, did I make a boo boo?
[10:45] <travisat> ardchoille: I don't think so, just harder to uninstall
[10:45] <ardchoille> travisat: Ah, ok. fwiw, it's v 9.0r115
[10:46] <groovingsoul> Please input serial device for fax-printing (e.g. ttyS0),, anyone can help me with this?
[10:47] <travisat> groovingsoul: what exactly are you doing?
[10:47] <oxeimon> hey, how do I unsuspend a process that I accidentally suspended via ctrl-s?
[10:48] <groovingsoul> i checked a fax program, to help a friend, and i didn't finished the lrfax install
[10:48] <groovingsoul> now i'm trying to get somo sound drivers
[10:48] <travisat> groovingsoul: uninstall the fax program
[10:48] <travisat> groovingsoul: then install your drivers
[10:48] <groovingsoul> some* but there's the problem with that fax thing
[10:48] <josiahw> unop__: I just get this for each image: ppmtojpeg: Too many arguments.  The only argument acceptedis the input file specification.
[10:48] <pajamian> oxeimon: I think it's ctrl-Q not sure, but that usually fixes it when I hit ctrl-s in less.
[10:48] <groovingsoul> i want to just stop that
[10:49] <groovingsoul> ok travisat, let's see if it works ty
[10:49] <oxeimon> pajamian: hahah amazing. thanks so much
[10:49] <pajamian> yw :-)
[10:49] <shade052> anyone know where to get packages for "hot-babe" for amd64 arch.
[10:49] <unop__> josiahw: for i in /path/to/*.pnm; do pnm2jpg $i; done
[10:49] <pajamian> I know how it is, I do that too when I'm viewing a file in less and go to search and forget I'm not in emacs.
[10:50] <travisat> shade052: google
[10:50] <ardchoille> !info hot-babe
[10:50] <ubotu> Package hot-babe does not exist in gutsy
[10:50] <travisat> :(
[10:51] <ikonia> shade052: I'm not aware of that package are you making a genuine request
[10:51] <josiahw> unop__: ok that worked ... thank you
[10:51] <ardchoille> Interesting, "apt-cache search hot-babe" returned the package and desc. (gutsy here)
[10:52] <unop__> ardchoille: ubotu probably doesn't like hot-babe :)
[10:52] <ardchoille> hehe
[10:52] <jussi01> hot babe is in medibuntu iirc
[10:52] <ardchoille> jussi01: Ah, that's why. Good catch
[10:53] <ardchoille> I keep forgetting I have medibuntu enabled
[10:53] <stephen-mason> !flash
[10:53] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:53]  * MenZa sings Queen - Flash!
[10:53] <shade052> ikonia: yup.. is a debian pkg. lot of debate going on slash dot weather it should have been included in the pkg... Is a system monitor where i girl removes clothes as the cpu usage increases
[10:53] <ikonia> I see
[10:53] <bazhang> heh
[10:53] <shade052> travisat: giving error on make
[10:55] <travisat> shade052: well I just install mediubuntu and hot-babe for kicks
[10:56] <Poul|Raider> SleepingSloth - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 related to the reboot stuff with nvidia driver
[10:56] <shade052> travisat: how did you get the required pkg?
[10:56] <Syntux> When I run System -> Help and Support; which files does Yelp open?
[10:56] <novato_br> everyone using ubuntu 7.10 ?
[10:56] <travisat> shade052: google medibuntu, follow instruction to install in apt, then apt-get install hot-babe
[10:56] <ardchoille> !medibuntu
[10:56] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:56] <novato_br> hi dudes, everybody is on unbuntu 7.10 ?
[10:56] <novato_br> is it stable ?
[10:57] <shade052> travisat: will try.. thnks
[10:57] <ardchoille> novato_br: I have been using 7.10 for a while and haven't seen any problems with it.
[10:57] <travisat> shade052: it is really stupid btw
[10:57] <novato_br> i think so that i'll get it
[10:58] <shade052> travisat: just wanted to see what the fuss is all about?
[10:58] <travisat> shade052: well of course
[10:59] <travisat> shade052: not into hentai myself so
[10:59] <elbermungsterses> hi guys, i have a weird problem. i can't rename/name files via nautilus in my home directory anymore. can you guys please help?
[10:59] <elbermungsterses> oh, and i'm still kind of new to linux.
[10:59] <travisat> elbermungsterses: what is the error
[11:00] <charles__> yes please post the error message if there is one
[11:00] <elbermungsterses> well, the rename option shows up on the right-click menu but i can't delete the old name and type in a new one.
[11:01]  * k3asd buondì
[11:01] <elbermungsterses> i can  do it fine in the command line, but it's nautilus that's the problem.
[11:01] <elius> how can i set subdomains on ubuntu 7.10 and apache?
[11:01] <ikonia> elius: that's dns
[11:01] <ikonia> elius: apache treats subdomains, just like a domain
[11:02] <elbermungsterses> i think it's linked to a wierd directory in my home directory called "file:".
[11:02] <travisat> elbermungsterses: well if you can do it in command line but not in nautilus I can't help, I don't use nautilus myself
[11:02] <elius> ikonia> i want users to type "subdomain.mysite.com" will go to a certian directory, can it be done with apache?
[11:02] <elbermungsterses> oh.
[11:02] <travisat> elbermungsterses: somebody else might help though
[11:03] <ikonia> elius: id you have a dns name for subdomain.mysite.com pointing at your IP - sure, apache just treats the subdomain in the same way (config/setup) as a regular domain
[11:03] <elbermungsterses> okay, thanks anyway travisat.
[11:03] <pajamian> elius yes, you need to set the DNS for the subdomain to point to your server then you need to set up name based virtual hosts in apache and have a seperate virtualhost container for each subdomain.
[11:03] <jenda> what path is pidgin installed to? I'm trying to compile a plugin and it asks for the path to pidgin's installation and to its plugins folder
[11:04] <elbermungsterses> can anyone else shed some light on my situation.
[11:04] <elbermungsterses> ?
[11:04] <charles__> elber try to use thunar and make sure that it's just nautilus that's the issue
[11:04] <elius> pajamian> im testing it on my pc for now(localhost), how do i configure apache? pretty much lost here
[11:04] <ikonia> elius: you need to configure apache to host the subdomain - like a normal domain
[11:05] <pajamian> one min and I'll give you more detailed help with it elius
[11:05] <ikonia> elius: eg: www.mysite.com = 10.11.216.1 subdomain.mysite.com 10.11.16.2 - it makes no difference to apache what the url is
[11:05] <elbermungsterses> okay charles__
[11:05] <erUSUL> jenda: dpkg -L pidgin
[11:05] <elbermungsterses> now installing
[11:06] <elius> ikonia> that's not what i want to do, that's simply re-directing, i want to create sub domains so sub.mysite.com will have a root directory of /var/www/sub for example
[11:06] <Kate_mins> hello, does it possible to mount drive from ssh connection ?
[11:06] <ikonia> elius: and thats exactly what I've just said
[11:06] <elius> Kate_mins> yes, fuse can do it
[11:06] <ikonia> elius: configure subdomain.mysite.com as a SEPERATE site
[11:06] <travisat> Kate_mins: yes
[11:07] <elius> ikonia> how do i do that?
[11:07] <ikonia> elius: the domain name means nothing to apache - it's just another site, you could have mysite.subdomain.another.subdomain.mysite.com and apache doesn't are
[11:07] <pajamian> elius: ok, you need to set up name based virtual hosts for each site you want
[11:07] <ikonia> elius: do you know how to set apache up to host a site ?
[11:07] <pajamian> I'll find a link fo ryou, one sec
[11:07] <Kate_mins> elius: i am new to Ubuntu,(i have desktop verison) can you explain me what are the steps for mounting drive from ssh ?
[11:08] <elius> ikonia> just using a simple install, i didnt configure anything on my own, that's why im asking
[11:08] <pajamian> elius: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[11:08] <erUSUL> Kate_mins: Places>Connect to server ??
[11:08] <ikonia> elius:  pajamian has just given you an excellent link
[11:08] <elius> thanks pajamian, i've been reading that page but i cant get it to work
[11:08] <Kate_mins> erUSUL: yes , i connected via ssh
[11:08] <pajamian> elius: ok, what's the problem?
[11:08] <oxigen> hi, is there any chronometer available for gnome or kde?
[11:09] <orlandoj> how can i change th IP of ubuntu grafically ?
[11:09] <shade052> elbermungsterses : is there a lock symbol on the file you want to rename?
[11:09] <ikonia> elius: orlandoj system --> admin --> network
[11:09] <elbermungsterses> nope, it's in my home directory, and i can't rename folders either.
[11:09] <elbermungsterses> it works fine in Thunar though.
[11:10] <elius> pajamian> either the subdomain doest work or i'm getting "Unable to open logs error"
[11:10] <_rodders> Can I install the server version of 7.10 using the Desktop CD by typing "server" at the point
[11:10] <_rodders> of the installation screen
[11:10] <pajamian> elius: ok, what happens when, "the subdomain doesn't work"?
[11:10] <ikonia> elius: one moment
[11:10] <Kate_mins> ikonia: can you help me please ?
[11:10] <charles__> cool, glad thunar works
[11:10] <ikonia> Kate_mins: hopefully - what's up
[11:11] <elius> pajamian> getting 404
[11:11] <Kate_mins> ikonia: fine thanks :) how are you ?
[11:11] <ikonia> elius: Kate_mins I meant what is the problem
[11:11] <ikonia> elius: sorry
[11:11] <pajamian> so if you browse to ... say http://subdomain.example.com/ you get a 404 on that page (if example.com is your domain)?
[11:11] <ikonia> Kate_mins: I meant what is the problem
[11:12] <bazhang> _rodders: no
[11:12] <Kate_mins> ikonia: I would like to mount a drive via ssh ? is it possible ?
[11:12] <ikonia> Kate_mins: sure, that's possible. It uses a technology called "fuse"
[11:12] <elbermungsterses> there's a wierd directory that appered recently in my home dir called "file:" , shade052
[11:13] <elius> pajamian> yep
[11:13] <pajamian> elius: ok ... can you paste the virtualhost section of your httpd.conf into the paste bin?
[11:13] <elbermungsterses> and i moved in some files with nautilus in root mode to my home directory.
[11:13] <shade052> elbermungsterses : are you sure you did not create it?
[11:13] <_rodders> can I install the server edition of 7.10 using the desktop cd version?
[11:13] <bazhang> _rodders: no again
[11:14] <elius> pajamian> yea, just a minute
[11:14] <Kate_mins> ikonia: can you write me the steps to use "Fuse" ? or give me link to a guide on the net ?
[11:14] <elbermungsterses> no, it just appeared and inside there are some empty folders.
[11:14] <shade052> elbermungsterses : are you sure you have user permissions for the file you want to rename?
[11:14] <ikonia> Kate_mins: there is somethin on https://help.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <egoleo> hello
[11:14] <bazhang> hi
[11:15] <egoleo> how do i install the latest kde on feisty
[11:15] <travisat> !kde4
[11:15] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:15] <elbermungsterses> yes, no lock symbol. in fact, i can't rename any file or folder in my home directory ,shade052
[11:15] <bazhang> kde4?
[11:16] <shade052> elbermungsterses :  weird.. i am clueless.. sorry
[11:16] <charles__> elber from the command prompt can you do a ls -al on your home directory and see what the permissions are?
[11:16] <ardchoille> egoleo: To install the latest stable kde environment: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <erUSUL> Kate_mins: look for sshfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS?highlight=%28sshfs%29
[11:17] <elbermungsterses> oh, and another thing. i deleted and moved in some files with sudo nautilus lately. is this the problem?
[11:18] <egoleo> will that give me kde4 which is the latest?
[11:18] <bazhang> no egoleo
[11:18] <elius> pajamian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53844/ sorry for the delay
[11:18] <stephen-mason> whats the best media player for audio?
[11:18] <charles__> elber they were in your home directory?
[11:18] <ardchoille> elbermungsterses: To check to see if root owns any files in your home: find $HOME -user root
[11:18] <oxigen> is there any chronometer available for gnome or kde?
[11:18] <pajamian> elius: np, looking
[11:18] <erUSUL> elbermungsterses: depends on what files you moved but do file managment with root privs is usually a _bad_ idea
[11:18] <egoleo> that is what i want actually
[11:18] <egoleo> i want the latest kde man
[11:18] <egoleo> kde4.0
[11:18] <bazhang> amarok stephen-mason seems to get the nod quite often
[11:19] <yacc> Just wondering, what is the best place to discuss multimedia problem on Linux? Specifically, broken DVDs that store their data it seems in the IFO files?
[11:19] <ardchoille> egoleo: kde4 is neither stable nor finished, just fyi
[11:19] <egoleo> yes
[11:19] <egoleo> i want it
[11:19] <levander> Can someone explain to me the seemingly weird way Ubuntu packages GNOME themes?  It seems like if you install one, it uninstalls the other.
[11:20] <bazhang> egoleo: #kubuntu-kde4 is waiting for you ;]
[11:20] <ardchoille> !kde4 | egoleo
[11:20] <ubotu> egoleo: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:20] <levander> Like the silicon-theme package has this line in its 'apt-cache show' output: ""
[11:20] <pajamian> elius: the first thing that jumps out at me is you should have an IP address next to the virtualhost keyword, not a hostname, so you should change localhost there to 127.0.0.1
[11:20] <levander> This line: "Replaces: ubuntu-artwork (<< 31)"
[11:20] <egoleo> ok
[11:20] <egoleo> thnx
[11:20] <bazhang> np
[11:21] <pajamian> elius: other than that, to rule out the log files as being a problem you can comment out the ErrorLog lines...
[11:21] <charles__> elber moving files around with sudo can be a bad idea when doing it to directories outside of the root directories
[11:21] <egoleo> so how do install it
[11:21] <egoleo> apt-get kubuntu-kde4
[11:22] <pajamian> elius: and other than that ... well, there's more, heh...
[11:22] <egoleo> is give me error
[11:22] <travisat> egoleo: reed tje [age
[11:22] <egoleo> i need the latest plse
[11:22] <travisat> I mean read the page
[11:22] <egoleo> what?
[11:22] <elius> pajamian> it starts fine, i got foo.localhost not working but for some strange reason i got sub.localhost working but directing to /var/www (which is the main dir)
[11:22] <egoleo> which page
[11:22] <travisat> !kde4
[11:22] <StrangeCharm_> Why is it that, whenever I put root inside an LVM group, on a RAID array, or on an encrypted volume - even though I have a separate /boot - I always get an 'operating system not found' error when I turn on the machine - even when I try to set up similar arrangements on different machines?
[11:22] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:22] <bazhang> egoleo: did you visit that channel?
[11:23] <pajamian> elius: my experience with servers is with centos (I can hear the boos now) I use ubuntu for the desktop, but apache config should be largely the same for both ...
[11:23] <Kate_mins> ikonia: I can't find the guide of "Fuse" , can you help me please how can i mount the drive from ssh ?
[11:24] <bazhang> elbermungsterses: how about creating a new file and trying to rename that--what happens then
[11:24] <travisat> egoleo: I don't think anybody here will give you more information quicker then those on the first link in that factoid
[11:24] <pajamian> elius: you need to change <VirtualHost localhost> to <VirtualHost 127.0.0.1> in both instances, I'm pretty sure of that.
[11:24] <user_> Hello, I have a bit of a problem connecting my ubuntu laptop to the router following a crash due to low battery last night.. ceteribus paribus
[11:24] <elius> pajamian> i did that, same thing
[11:24] <egoleo> yeah
[11:24] <egoleo> seen it
[11:24] <egoleo> thnx
[11:24] <user_> IP address gets assigned, but I cant ping or access router/internet via wireless
[11:24] <bazhang> np x2
[11:25] <pajamian> elius: also NameVirtualHost localhost should be NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1
[11:25] <pajamian> and similar for any listen line that would be above that...
[11:25] <pajamian> then comment out the ErrorLog lines just so you know those aren't causing the problem (you can add them back later) ...
[11:25] <pajamian> and ...
[11:26] <travisat> get kicked for flooding
[11:26] <pajamian> I would recommend *not* using /var/www as your document root on either domain, I would recommend using /var/www/html as the docroot for the main domain and /var/www/html/foo as the docroot for the subdomain.
[11:26] <kennyyu__> hi
[11:26] <kennyyu__> when I cvs I got problems... I think it's because of the proxy. can you tell me a way to set proxy for my cvs client?
[11:26] <kennyyu__> I mean... command line cvs
[11:26] <levander> Man there is a mess of packages in the Canonical repositories that offer GNOME themes.  No one's unified these packages at all.
[11:27] <pajamian> elius: also make sure that apache has permissions to access the docroots (both of them) it needs read access, and it needs write access if you're running any scripts (cgi or php, etc) that need to write to the files there.
[11:27] <LetsGo67> I get no sound when using gtk-recordmydesktop, can someone help me fix that please?
[11:27] <travisat> levander: that is why I use gnome-look to get themes
[11:27] <bio> Hello
[11:27] <inertial> is there any way to have different panel system monitors showing load on individual cores?
[11:28] <pajamian> elius: also make sure that foo.localhost is listed in your hosts file
[11:28] <inertial> as in- is there a system monitor for the panel that can do it? the basic system monitor in gnome doesn't seem to allow for that
[11:28] <bazhang> hi bio
[11:28] <bio> I am using ubuntu. I have 4Gb of ram but the system only recognizes 3.5Gb. What can I do for this?
[11:28] <pajamian> elius: once you've checked all that and fixed it up let me know if you still have problems.
[11:28] <bazhang> 64bit bio
[11:29] <travisat> bio: don't worry about it unless you actually need 4 gigs of ram
[11:29] <bio> bazhang, cpu x64 but os on x32 bit.
[11:29] <bio> os[Linux 2.6.22-14-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz @ 2.88GHz] mem[Physical : 3546MB, 84.3% free] disk[Total : 481.25GB, 38.80% Free] video[nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] sound[]
[11:29] <travisat> bio: 32bit os can only handle about 3.5
[11:29] <bascule> surely there is a high-mem kernel
[11:29] <egoleo> lots of dependency calls
[11:29] <bio> oh
[11:29] <LetsGo67> I get no sound when using gtk-recordmydesktop, can someone help me fix that please?
[11:29] <bazhang> need the 64bit to use it all bio
[11:29] <roddersg> Can i install the server version of 7.10 from the desktop edition?
[11:29] <bio> I did not know of it. Shame.
[11:29] <elius> pajamian> foo.localhost should direct to 127.0.0.1?
[11:29] <egoleo> is anyone using acer 4520 here
[11:29] <egoleo> i need to get webcam work
[11:30] <pajamian> elius: yes
[11:30] <LetsGo67> !recordmydesktop > letsgo67
[11:30] <egoleo> and my nvidia card also not working
[11:30] <travisat> bio: but unless you are doing video/photo/3d editting you really don't need that much at this point in time
[11:30] <ikonia> elius: apologies, I was on the phone
[11:30] <bascule> bio: see if there is a server kernel, cause 32bit can do more than 3.5 with paging table trickery, but you loe performance
[11:30] <ikonia> bascule PAE
[11:30] <bio> I don't really need 4Gb of ram but if I need it once, i would like to use them :-)
[11:31] <travisat> bio: well if you want it go to 64bit os
[11:31] <travisat> bio: but 64bit is not as well supported as 32bit imo
[11:31] <brizben> has anyone had issues with google earth on ubuntu logging them out. Every time I run google earth I get logged out
[11:31] <ce_moedz> ygjghkuuhl
[11:31] <bio> travisat, but 64bit os is a little different. I mean the libraries and other things, am I wrong?
[11:31] <roddersg> exit
[11:31] <travisat> bio: everything compiled is different
[11:31] <ikonia> bio not visually different to the end user
[11:32] <inertial> so nobody knows of a good system monitor for multi core systems?
[11:32] <elius> pajamian> my config is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53845/ now, i got "127.0.0.1 foo.localhost" on /etc/hosts and still no go, foo.localhost directs to /var/www instead of /var/www/foo
[11:32] <travisat> bio: but you will only notice the difference in trying to install some 3rd party apps like flash, becuase most of them are 32bit
[11:32] <bio> Hmm I will think about it. But so far I don't have any ram problems, I will stick to 32bit.
[11:32] <elius> foo.localhost shows the same result as localhost
[11:32] <ikonia> elius: the servername is not foo.127.0.0.1
[11:32] <scotch> hey, I have trouble uninstalling a packet
[11:32] <bascule> inertial: gkrellm
[11:32] <ikonia> elius: 127.0.0.1 is na IP
[11:32] <user_> Hello, I do not get any network access to my router or the WAN following a hard crash last night.. I get assigned an IP address via DHCP but ping is not possible etc.. any ideas?
[11:32] <pajamian> elius: change the ServerName lines back
[11:33] <ikonia> elius: server name is localhost
[11:33] <travisat> bio: I actually find that 2gigs is more then enough for almost everything
[11:33] <elius> opps
[11:33] <scotch> dpkg tellt me, that the package in in avery bad state and that I should reinstall it before removal, but reinstalling fails
[11:33] <travisat> dkpg --configure
[11:33] <travisat> run that scothc
[11:33] <ChrisGibbs> user_: are you running any firewalls?
[11:34] <inertial> bascule: ok i'll try that
[11:34] <bio> travisat, as you see, I use only ~12% of my ram. The point is when I play games (fps games) I need enough ram. ETQW eats lot of ram, ET also.
[11:34] <BuksH> help: my ubuntu LAMP sever keeps reboot every hour (Gutsy and Hardy) both does this.
[11:34] <elius> pajamian, ikonia > i've set "ServerName localhost" and its the same
[11:34] <scotch> travisat: k, thx
[11:34] <travisat> scotch: you might try dpkg --configure -a
[11:34] <travisat> scotch: I think I left out the -a
[11:35] <pajamian> elius: you restart httpd?
[11:35] <travisat> bio: I understand, but I play games too, and I have never gone above 2gigs personally
[11:35] <pajamian> elius: and the second ServerName is foo.localhost?
[11:35] <elius> pajamian> ofcourse
[11:35] <pajamian> elius: brb
[11:35] <LetsGo67> There is a folder in my trash that I cannot delete, can someone help me please?
[11:35] <user_> ChrisGibbs: I havent got firestarter installed, i didnt change iptables rules or anything
[11:36] <travisat> LetsGo67: in a terminal  cd .Trash
[11:36] <travisat> then rm whatever is there that you want to delete
[11:36] <erUSUL> BuksH: any clue on the logs ? ( /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages )
[11:36] <elius> pajamian> used foo.127.0.0.1, changed it and it works!
[11:36] <LetsGo67> travistat: apparently .Trash doesn't exist.
[11:36] <StrangeCharm_> what is wrong with the setup for encrypted volumes?
[11:36] <ChrisGibbs> user_: what kind of response do you get back from pinging your router?
[11:36] <elius> pajamian, ikonia, thanks alot for your help :)
[11:36] <travisat> LetsGo67: ah well
[11:37] <Malinthe> does anyone here use grip for ripping cd's? i have a problem with grip. it's freedb querying fails everytime. i also tried asunder but it fails too. any ideas guys?
[11:37] <ikonia> elius: well done
[11:37] <user_> ChrisGibbs: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[11:37] <travisat> LetsGo67: do you use gnome or kde
[11:37] <BuksH> erusul: I cant see anything in syslog. This is a clean install only using MySQL
[11:37] <LetsGo67> Travistat: Xfce.
[11:37] <scotch> travisat: I get the same error when trying to run configure
[11:37] <travisat> LetsGo67: ah well I don't know about its trash
[11:37] <inertial> bascule: any way to have gkrellm display within a gnome panel?
[11:37] <travisat> scotch: hmm
[11:37] <travisat> scotch: what error
[11:38] <bascule> inertial: maybe, you can tell it not to go to the taskbar ...
[11:38] <erUSUL> BuksH: and the other log?
[11:38] <StrangeCharm_> is there any documentation on how to set up encrypted volumes with the 7.10 installer?
[11:38] <erUSUL> BuksH: maybe it is a hardware error? CPU overheating?
[11:38] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_: thats not supported
[11:38] <user_> ChrisGibbs: Everything was workign fine until laptop ran out of battery last night (hardcrash). Now it seems upset.. eth1 and eth0 both display this behaviour, other LAN clients working fine. IP address is assigned by router, but DNS servers are not fed through properly
[11:38] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_: not within the current installer
[11:38] <BuksH> erusul: what other log? i am rather new to ubuntu, but windows programmer for eeons.
[11:38] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[11:39] <bascule> user_: operation not permitted is firewall, try sudo iptables -F then sudo ping <router>
[11:39] <StrangeCharm_> ikonia: not even on the alternate install cd? it seems to have support for encrypted volumes, i just can't find documentation on how to use it properly
[11:39] <LetsGo67> !trash
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_ not sure about the alt/server cd, I don't know
[11:39] <brizben> any poeple who can trouble shoot google earth on Ubuntu for me here?
[11:39] <pajamian> elius: the ServerName has to match whatever you're entering in your browser, so if you're entering foo.127.0.0.1 in the browser then yes, that's what the servername has to be.
[11:39] <pythonn> how can i install a .rpm package, my archive manager tells that this type is not supported?
[11:39] <travisat> pythonn: alien
[11:39] <travisat> !alien
[11:39] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:39] <pajamian> elius: but it should be foo.localhost
[11:40] <ChrisGibbs> user_:  what is in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[11:40] <user_> bascule: Thanks, still getting same error (Operation not permitted)
[11:40] <ikonia> pythonn: don't install rpm's on ubuntu, they are not indended for ubuntu
[11:40] <pythonn> ok
[11:40] <bazhang> pythonn: what package
[11:40] <pythonn> asymptote, a drawing program
[11:40] <scotch> travisat: http://paste.uni.cc/18212
[11:40] <pajamian> elius: and sorry for running off, had to deal with cleaning up my son a bit, he's toilet training.
[11:40] <user_> ChrisGibbs: I checked it after googling web forums.. it looks nearly empty,"auto Io iface Io inet loopback"
[11:40] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: that page just seesm to say 'it works in 7.10' when my experiences disagree
[11:40] <bascule> user_: ? make no sense to me at all
[11:40] <travisat> pythonn: that might be in ubuntu repos
[11:41] <bazhang> pythonn: best to use something similar from the repos--rpms are bad juju
[11:41] <pythonn> ok
[11:41] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: there's the expected debian-like interface on the installer, but when it's finished, it just doesn't boot
[11:41] <ChrisGibbs> user1: seems like your eth0 and eth1 are missing then
[11:41] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: well you asked for documentation, I personally use truecrypt on a seperate harddisk and don't encrypt any main partitino
[11:41] <ChrisGibbs> user_: seems like your eth0 and eth1 are missing
[11:42] <user_> bascule: Sorry, as requested by you:  sudo iptables -F then sudo ping <router> -> I still get "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[11:42] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: 'feature supported' is not documentation
[11:42] <user_> ChrisGibbs: I see, the network
[11:42] <bascule> user_: sure  understood what you said, just not the result :D
[11:42] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: well on that page was a link to a bunch of how-tos
[11:42] <user_> ChrisGibb: I see, the nm-applet shows connection, oddly enough
[11:43] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: all of which are not designed for 7.10
[11:43] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: I see
[11:43] <bascule> ChrisGibbs: using network manager, does it create interface files?
[11:43] <Kate_mins> hello , on the desktop ment : System - Preferences - Remote Desktop , is it possible to change the configuration of "Remote Desktop" from ssh ?
[11:43] <ChrisGibbs> user_: I seemed to think that nm was just a front for interfaces file
[11:43] <elius> pajamian> no problem at all, thanks again
[11:43] <ChrisGibbs> user_: maybe i am mistaken
[11:44] <user_> ChrisGibbs, baschule: I would think so too, hence the surprise - nm-applet "connection information" shows  fixed IP for machine applied correctly, but primary DNS stays on router IP
[11:44] <LetsGo67> !ops > LetsGo67
[11:44] <ikonia> LetsGo67: what are you doing
[11:44] <user_> ChrisGibbs: ifconfig also shows ip address as assigned by router
[11:44] <ikonia> LetsGo67: that command is not a play thing
[11:44] <bascule> user_: you are using static IP? thought you wanted DHCP
[11:45] <ChrisGibbs> user_: maybe try editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand and restarting networking (lets rule out nm for sure)
[11:45] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: 7.10 is the first version of ubuntu to allegedly support encryption out-of-the-box. except that my experience is that it doesn't work like expected, so i'm looking for the documentation that explains how it *does* work
[11:45] <LetsGo67> ikonia, I sent it to myself, will they envade my pms now?
[11:45] <user_> my router assigns the static IP for the machine via DHCP
[11:45] <user_> bascule: my router assigns the static IP for the machine via DHCP
[11:45] <slashem> I know how to program, where can I find out how to start hacking on an ubuntu package such as gnome?
[11:45] <bascule> user_: dichotomy of terms
[11:45] <ikonia> LetsGo67: it summons operator staff
[11:45] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: looks like you have to use the alternate install cd and set up lvm in it to get to the encrypted options
[11:45] <unop> user_: you couldnt call that a "static" ip -- more a "permanent" dhcp lease
[11:45] <slashem> that is to say, hack around on the gnome source and use it locally
[11:45] <bazhang> LetsGo67: best to /msg ubotu keyword
[11:45] <bascule> user_: dhcp and static are different things
[11:45] <ChrisGibbs> unop: lol
[11:46] <Seveas> bascule, not necessarily
[11:46] <LetsGo67> LetsGo67, oh sorry, now I get it.
[11:46] <stdin> LetsGo67: operators also have highlights on the call, just /msg ubotu if you want to see who are ops
[11:46] <BuksH> Any advice on troubleshooting LAMP server (Gutsy and Hardy) reboots? happens every hour like clockwork
[11:46] <Seveas> bascule, ISC dhcpd is perfectly capable of issuing static IP addresses :)
[11:46] <bascule> Seveas: ? well d stands for dynamic :))
[11:46] <unop> ChrisGibbs: i'm serious
[11:46] <bascule> 's head pops
[11:46] <LetsGo67> But their names do not show up in the chat room.
[11:46] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: i've been playing with the alt-cd for a few weeks; i've found encryption options, i've set them up the way that i'd expect it to work, with or without lvm, but when all is said and done, my systems never boot
[11:46] <ikonia> daemon
[11:46] <ChrisGibbs> unop: i know :)
[11:46] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[11:47] <bazhang> hi doktoreas
[11:47] <user_> unop, seveas, bascule: I tell the router to assign a "static IP via DHCP", the machine accepts it via DHCP without prior knowledge, so its a static IP, dynamically assigned?
[11:47] <Kate_mins> hello , does it possible to change the settings of "System - Preferences - Remote Desktop" from ssh ?
[11:47] <doktoreas> i am using powertop to check power consumption, and i noticed that 66% is coming from nvidia
[11:47] <unop> user_: what does D in DHCP stand for?
[11:47] <Seveas> user_, that would be a correct description
[11:47] <user_> unop: dynamic!! would you like me to change it re: my issue?
[11:47] <LetsGo67> Did I just call the ops on myself?
[11:47] <unop> Seveas: errm no - it's not SHCP eh?
[11:47] <stdin> LetsGo67: you can set highlights on certain words, and many ops (including myself) have a highlight on ! ops (without the space), incase the bot lags or is down
[11:48] <bazhang> this is better than #trivia
[11:48] <user_> :D you're torturing a noob here
[11:48] <Seveas> unop, dude, read the dhcpd manual
[11:48] <LetsGo67> stdin, I didn't know that irc does that.
[11:48] <ChrisGibbs> unop: user_  i think we are getting caught up in terminology, i think we understand the problem that is occurring
[11:48] <user_> ChrisGibbs: maybe i should do the interfaces manually, do I have to deactivate nm-applet
[11:48] <Seveas> ISC dhcpd is perfectly capable of issuing static IP addresses via dhcp
[11:48] <Seveas> and so can many routers
[11:48] <stdin> unop: my dhcp server sets static IP so some hosts, it's still dynamic for others
[11:48] <bascule> i guess the DHCP server can always bind an ip to the requesting MAC, not hard really ...
[11:48] <stdin> LetsGo67: it's a client setting
[11:49] <unop> stdin: i think it would be correct to say your DHCP has a permanent lease assigned for certain computers
[11:49] <ChrisGibbs> user_: you can kill the nm if you want and manually config the interfaces if you want
[11:49] <user_> bascule: perhaps "static ip" refers to client side setting? it always gets assigned the same IP
[11:49] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: well I can't find anything on it, so well sry
[11:49] <LetsGo67> My time is wrong, is says 12:49, can someone help me change it please?  it constantly changes on its own.
[11:49] <BuksH> Any pointer for troubleshooting hourly ubuntu server reboots. Its driving me crazy!
[11:49] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: thanks for trying
[11:49] <user_> ChrisGibbs: i shall try that
[11:50] <stdin> unop: no, it just sees that it has a certain MAC and so gives it a specific IP with a standard lease
[11:50] <bascule> user_: despite all this, operation not permitted on sudo ping is the first hurdle IMO :)
[11:50] <unop> BuksH: examine your server's logs?
[11:50] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: I find personally that encrypted the root partition slows stuff down, it might be better to have a seperate home partition encrypted
[11:50] <unop> stdin: exactly what i meant, even though that interface with that MAC address always recieves the same IP address, i wouldnt call it _static_
[11:50] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: and there are a lot of tutorials to do that floating around
[11:50] <BuksH> unop: which server logs? i have looked as system log, but find nothing strange
[11:51] <stdin> unop: it doesn't change, what else would you call that? undynamic?
[11:51] <unop> BuksH: ruled out hardware problems? overheating, peripherals, etc
[11:51] <user_> bascule: as this happened after hard crash, I am wondering what could have been corrupted last night? Ive got a couple of years of stable ubuntu wlan action out of this machine..
[11:51] <unop> stdin: well, if i took away your DHCP server away and put another in its place, does the client still get the same IP address??
[11:52] <unop> stdin: its still dynamic, yes
[11:52] <stdin> unop: yes, because it uses the standard dhcpd config files, so all servers will read it :)
[11:52] <Seveas> unop, quit it now.
[11:52] <bascule> lol
[11:52] <Kate_mins> does someone knows where is the configuration file of "vino" (remote desktop) ?
[11:52] <bazhang> !ot
[11:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:52] <BuksH> unop: not realy, i have limited other hardware to test on, but will try another box. are there any howto's to learn more.
[11:52] <StrangeCharm_> travisat: and i have worked out how to do that. however, i want a certain measure of protection from analysis of my install
[11:52] <Seveas> this is a support channel, no hair-splitting-because-you-lost-an-argument channel
[11:53] <bascule> user_: well I am out of ideas, only seen operation not permitted once on ping, and it ws my own over zealous firewall
[11:53] <user_> ChrisGibbs: killed nm-app, defined wlan using network-manager, now interfaces file shows "iface eth1 inet dhcp, wpa....auto eth1" ping still says operation not permitted
[11:53] <unop> Seveas: you seem to imply that i-lost-an-argument :)
[11:53] <scotch> travisat: problem solved, cups couldn't start in chroot and tahtS why the deinstallation didin't work...
[11:53] <travisat> StrangeCharm_: ah well good luck on it
[11:53] <travisat> scotch: good
[11:53] <user_> bascule: thanks, maybe I should totally deactivate iptables?
[11:54] <bascule> user_: iptables -F shoul do that
[11:54] <scotch> thanks for the help ;-)
[11:54] <bascule> user_: try -X and -Z too
[11:54] <LetsGo67> !scotch
[11:54] <white_eagle> can you control ubuntu via windows with remote control?
[11:54] <user_> bascule: iptables -X -Z?
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scotch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <white_eagle> !remote control
[11:54] <bascule> user_: different lines each time
[11:54] <slashem> how do I get the GNOME source and where does ubuntu put it?
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote control - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <user_> white_eagle: yes, use vncviewer
[11:54] <unop> white_eagle: yes, you'll need a vnc viewer
[11:54] <bazhang> LetsGo67: msg the bot please
[11:54] <BuksH> white_eagle: vncviewer works well
[11:55] <ChrisGibbs> user_: are you trying to ping by host name or dns? can the router ping you? (provided iptables is disabled)
[11:55] <bascule> user_: then iptables -P OUTPUT -J ACCEPT
[11:55] <user_> bascule: thanks ChrisGibbs: will try that now.. I am trying to ping router by IP and vice versa
[11:55] <Seveas> bascule, -P OUTPUT ACCEPT (no -j there)
[11:56] <inspired> is it possible to get java applets working with firefox 64-bit?
[11:56] <bascule> Seveas: oh yeah
[11:56] <inspired> I can't log in to my bank, among other things
[11:56] <white_eagle> thanks user_ unop and BuksH
[11:56] <FFighter> any way to quickly kill a X app through the GUI (something like CTRL+ALT+DEL kill app on windows)?
[11:56] <white_eagle> :)
[11:56] <bascule> it's a policy not a table .. :)
[11:56] <Seveas> FFighter, xkill
[11:56] <Seveas> and click on the thing to kill
[11:56] <FFighter> Seveas, thank you!
[11:57] <travisat> FFighter: the system monitor is a very close kin to the task manager too
[11:57] <travisat> FFighter: its in system/administration
[11:57] <sandr-> in the loginscreen my keyboard is qwerty, and in ubuntu it's azerty. How can I get both on azerty?
[11:58] <doktoreas> how can i disable nvidia driver and come back to opensource one?
[11:58] <user_> bascule ChrisGibbs: router: 5 packets 100% lost (ping), ping from pc to router 100% packet loss
[11:58] <bascule> user_: but no operation not permitted :)
[11:58] <travisat> doktoreas: change the nvidia driver to nv in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but be careful
[11:58] <user_> bascule yes :)
[11:58] <ChrisGibbs> bascule: lol
[11:58] <bascule> well thats one down, now for the rest
[11:58] <bascule> :D
[11:59] <unop_> user_: is this a wired or wireless interface?
[11:59] <user_> bascule: thanks, will i have to leave iptables off permanently now? I wish i could understand why my perfectly working ubuntu "changed" due to a crasgh
[11:59] <user_> unop: I have tried both eth0 and eth1 display the same behaviour
[11:59] <unop_> user_: you reckon its an iptables issue?
[12:00] <bascule> user_: well I dont no try this line iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[12:00] <user_> unop: ive been googlign around, bascule suggested it due to "sendmsg: not permitted", tehre are some hits on forums. but ceteribus paribus etc
[12:00] <user_> bascule: will try taht line
[12:01] <user_> bascule: DISCO!! but how.. why..? :D
[12:02] <bascule> firewall rules came from somewhere, I dunno where
[12:02] <don_> some1 expert on ethernet and its protocols?
[12:02] <user_> bascule: is this fix permanent?
[12:03] <unop_> don_: in regards to ubuntu?
[12:03] <don_> yeah
[12:03] <unop_> don_: whats the issue?
[12:03] <Kate_mins> does someone knows what is the defualt port of vino (remote desktop server) ?
[12:03] <bascule> user_: no, I would add it at boot up, but this may be a one boot issue, I tend to use a shell script that I run myself to get the net up on my machines
[12:03] <don_> first, is a discprenance between mii-tool and ethtool normal? :)
[12:03] <user_> thanks bascule, ChrisGibbs, unop, seveas..
[12:04] <user_> bascule: is this really the only way to configure it permanently? was always working for me before
[12:04] <unop_> Kate_mins: it depends on the vnc instance -- from 5900 upwards
[12:04] <unop_> don_: what kind of discrepancy are you seeing?
[12:04] <bascule> user_: well we/you need to find where the iptables rules were being set
[12:04] <bascule> user_: and unset them
[12:04] <don_> eth1        Speed: 1000Mb/s
[12:04] <Kate_mins> unop_: there is some command i can type on the terminal that will show me the port of vino ?
[12:05] <don_> mii-tool eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok
[12:05] <unop_> Kate_mins: when you have vino running -- netstat -ano
[12:05] <ChrisGibbs> user_: bascule so it was a firewall issue all along? I thought that was off ages ago...... lol
[12:05] <bascule> Kate_mins: 'sudo netstat -pant' will show all listeners
[12:05] <albech> can i install ubunto to a system with no dvd or cd rom?? I currently have windows installed and running on it, but i want to replace it with ubuntu?
[12:05] <bascule> ChrisGibbs: operation not permitted gave it away
[12:06] <don_> mii-tool:   capabilities: 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
[12:06] <user_> bascule: thanks for your support, I have applied the firestarter "wizard" settings for eth1
[12:06] <bascule> user_: that should do, I hope
[12:06] <bascule> and you are welcome
[12:07] <bascule> it was kinda fun on a day off :)
[12:07] <mimilus> plop
[12:07] <ChrisGibbs> bascule: thanks for the tips as well :)
[12:07] <mimilus> is there good adresse for howtos to make a gnome theme ?
[12:08] <bascule> ChrisGibbs: welcome :)
[12:08] <user_> bascule: this whole iptables stuff bit oblique to me..
[12:08] <tainstvena> hi
[12:08] <albech> i have a live cd on my notebook running ubuntu next to the system and they are connected through network, is it possible to use the notebooks dvd or can i copy some basic installation file before the actual installation?
[12:08] <travisat> mimilus: best way is to look at one already made
[12:08] <ChrisGibbs> user_: bascule would it be worth considering firestater (or similar) ??
[12:09] <bascule> it takes time to learn, your own lan is the best way with a net machine and a laptop, mess around on the laptop and break and fix things till it makes a little sense
[12:09] <user_> ChrisGibbs: sorry, didnt copy you in, I just used the firestarter wizard to create a config
[12:09] <mimilus> yes but is there so tools ??? to do it travisat
[12:09] <unop__> albech: you can use wubi to isntall ubuntu from withing windows
[12:09] <user_> bascule: yes, am just nervous I end up with win98 type "software firewall" :D
[12:10] <albech> unop__: will that completely allow me get rid of windows and its partitions?
[12:10] <oxeimon> !info hot_chick
[12:10] <ubotu> Package hot_chick does not exist in gutsy
[12:10] <oxeimon> FUCK
[12:10] <bascule> user_: never, iptables is sane, win firewall is a bullet-proof vest on the inside :)
[12:10] <travisat> mimilus: no tools really most themes are images and code
[12:10] <unop__> albech: errm, i dont think so - i reckon wubi needs suff to remain on the hdd for it to work
[12:11] <unop__> albech: do you have any free partitions on the comp?
[12:11] <mimilus> travisat , do you know where i could find some infos to do a theme ?
[12:11] <albech> unop__: i could put wubi on a flash card?
[12:11] <freddo_frog> hey does anyone here use wbar?
[12:11] <albech> unop__: i could clear a partition
[12:11] <travisat> mimilus: not off hand sorry, but I have tried before and I just looked at how a theme I had on my computer was made
[12:12] <unop__> albech: errm, that woul depend on whether your machine is capable of booting from the flash disk
[12:12] <bazhang> oxeimon: watch the language
[12:12] <albech> unop__: let me check that rq
[12:13] <ChrisGibbs> user_: bascule ah. I havent used iptables for a while now... looks like im going rusty...... time to replace my Cisco 837 with iptables :)
[12:13] <user_> bascule, ChrisGibbs: thanks very much again, ciao
[12:13] <bascule> laters user_
[12:14] <eitreach> I'm looking for a flexible and open IM-standard to replace MSN. I find Jabber to be amazingly quirky, so I was hoping there is something else.
[12:14] <frojnd> I'm looking for a program thad detects any press of keyboard or mosue and than logs this presses. Is there any kind of program ?
[12:14] <Sylvia> åñòü ÷òî òî êòî ïîíèìàåò ïî ðóññêè ? sorry
[12:14] <bazhang> pidgin perhaps eitreach
[12:15] <matt__> i have 4gb of ram installed in my system, but only 3.2gb of it is being used. multiple people have said this is because i'm using a 32bit operating system. i have a 64bit processor, so i booted onto a 64bit live cd, and it still said that i only have 3.2gb. my system is one of the dell 530's, specially for linux. i've heard of numerous other people doing to the exact same thing on these, so anyone know what's going on?
[12:15] <kbrooks> bazhang, pidgin is not a IM standard
[12:15] <bazhang> frojnd: a key logger?
[12:15] <eitreach> bazhang, aye, I'm talking about protocols though.
[12:15] <bazhang> eitreach: ah I see; perhaps kbrooks could assist ;]
[12:15] <frojnd> bazhang, something like this yes. Do u know any?
[12:15] <kbrooks> eitreach, are you sure _Jabber_ is quirky? the programs implementing jabber might be.
[12:16] <ikonia> kbrooks: im standard?
[12:16] <eitreach> kbrooks, I'm trying to use my Gmail to use with it, and find a way to add MSN-contacts.. perhaps it's just the problem.
[12:16] <eitreach> I do use pidgin.
[12:16] <bazhang> frojnd: that kind of thing is frowned on here I would imagine
[12:16] <kbrooks> eitreach, well, use the transports... looking for a link:
[12:17] <matt__> i have 4gb of ram installed in my system, but only 3.2gb of it is being used. multiple people have said this is because i'm using a 32bit operating system. i have a 64bit processor, so i booted onto a 64bit live cd, and it still said that i only have 3.2gb. my system is one of the dell 530's, specially for linux. i've heard of numerous other people doing to the exact same thing on these, so anyone know what's going on?
[12:17] <frojnd> bazhang, frowned ?
[12:17] <eitreach> frojnd, it is not tolerated.
[12:17] <unop> matt__: what does the BIOS report?
[12:17] <bazhang> frojnd: a big n0-n0
[12:17] <eitreach> kbrooks, I have been looking through the servers, and tried adding a few.. I can't seem to put the right things in the right places though.
[12:17] <travisat> matt__: might be a bios setting
[12:18] <eitreach> first time I ever try to use it. :)
[12:18] <matt__> unop: umm...not really looked there, not had time to. however...this is sorta what i'm talking about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680201
[12:18] <kbrooks> eitreach, http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/chat-with-aim-msn-yahoo-and-other-contacts-over-google-talk-289097.php # read on this
[12:18] <frojnd> bazhang, eitreach it's a mather of secuirty...
[12:18] <frojnd> eitreach, bazhang and don't see why this wouldn't be allowd
[12:18] <bazhang> frojnd: in this case #ubuntu is not your friend
[12:19] <frojnd> bazhang, explain :)
[12:19] <bascule> frojnd: caus eit sounds like a trojan to me/us/everybody
[12:19] <eitreach> kbrooks, thanks. I'll try that out first.
[12:19] <bazhang> frojnd: better stop discussing it
[12:19] <frojnd> bascule, I would configure it for myself, because someone is using my comp when I'm gonne here..
[12:19] <pajamian> frojnd: try password protecting the comp?
[12:20] <frojnd> pajamian, that would be one way
[12:20] <eitreach> I'd try that first as well.
[12:20] <pajamian> frojnd: better than a keylogger
[12:20] <frojnd> but other more fine to figure it out what this person want..
[12:20] <bazhang> frojnd: just lock your screen then password protect it in screensaver mode
[12:20] <eitreach> keylogging wouldn't protect it anyhow. it'd just make you able to see what it was used for.
[12:20] <frojnd> nevermind I won't come nowhere if u think this is illega.
[12:20] <matt__> travisat: unop
[12:20] <matt__> travisat: unop
[12:20] <matt__> unop: umm...not really looked there, not had time to. however...this is sorta what i'm talking about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680201
[12:20] <pajamian> frojnd: also, while you may be able to find a keylogger, it won't log mouse clicks and even if it could the data would be largely useless.
[12:21] <NyamuK> how to compile pdo_dblib? help
[12:21] <kbrooks> pajamian, why
[12:21] <Dr_willis> it wont log ssh sessions either.. Hmm.. dident we have a discussion about this like yesterday?
[12:21] <frojnd> pajamian, it doesn't matter if there is only one line of words...
[12:21] <ikonia> I think this is dubious ground to discuss
[12:22] <bazhang> !ot | frojnd that is not supported here
[12:22] <ubotu> frojnd that is not supported here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:22] <pajamian> logging mouse clicks can change based on the location of windows, what screen your in, what program is running, etc.  they can mean lots of different things.
[12:22] <yoddabyte> it can log links...that the mouse clicks
[12:22] <bazhang> :[
[12:23] <stealthy> Hey all, could someone please help me debug some horrible, horrible fps with xgl/compiz-fusion?
[12:23] <pajamian> anyways, I would suggest just password protecting the comp, much easier.
[12:23] <unicum> whats wrong with it
[12:23] <bazhang> have you been to the main channel for that stealthy?
[12:23] <bascule> frojnd: setup some rdesktop software and monitor from remote
[12:24] <luis_> hello all, i have my ipod connected in Amarok but the transfer button is not clickable, anyone know what's wrong?
[12:24] <frojnd> bascule, I'll check
[12:24] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion stealthy can help alot
[12:24] <nemilar> yaaaaaawwwn
[12:24] <ikonia> nemilar: ?
[12:24] <bazhang> luis_: did you drag some files over to transfer?
[12:25] <matt__> unop: travisat http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546943&highlight=ram
[12:25] <nemilar> i keep forgetting that the internet is international, and ya'll are awake 24/7
[12:25] <luis_> oh , no, lol
[12:25] <luis_> hahhaa
[12:25] <stealthy> bazhang, thanks
[12:25] <ikonia> nemilar: do you also forget about the channels topic ?
[12:25] <luis_> thanks dude
[12:25] <luis_> let me try that
[12:25] <bazhang> luis_: that might help, maybe ;]
[12:25] <nemilar> ikonia: relax man, I haven't had my coffee yet
[12:25] <ikonia> nemilar: keep the noise in the channel down then
[12:25] <luis_> can a whole folder be dragged?
[12:25] <ikonia> luis_: sure
[12:25] <bazhang> nemilar: tell the bot ;]
[12:26] <eitreach> kbrooks, I can't figure out how I am able to register with other services in pidgin.
[12:26] <bazhang> np stealthy
[12:27] <kbrooks> eitreach, you have to find another jabber server, set up a transport and use that transport  transparently
[12:27] <unop> matt__: get to the source of the issue - what does the bios say?
[12:28] <travisat> matt__: I think you might be SOL I can see dell doing this to your comp
[12:28] <luis_> I now do have files in the dragged in to be trasfered, but the transfer button is still not clickable :S
[12:28] <matt__> travisat: i almost completely agree...
[12:28] <matt__> unop: i'll take a reboot sometime, but not now, off to school.
[12:28] <bazhang> luis_: does amarok recognize the mp3 player is attached?
[12:28] <luis_> yes
[12:28] <bidossessi> hi folks
[12:28] <travisat> matt__: that is why I build me computers myself and don't go dell
[12:28] <luis_> it displays the files on it too
[12:28] <bazhang> luis_: first need to hit connect
[12:29] <luis_> I did connect
[12:29] <bazhang> hmm odd
[12:29] <scorpian> hi
[12:29] <bazhang> luis_: you dragged the files from the collection window to the devices window?
[12:29] <luis_> yes
[12:30] <bidossessi> i have a desktop at home that i need to turn into a dhcp server. it's got an atheros wireless card. the only problem is that i don't have internet at home. how should I go about solving that problem?
[12:30] <Peaker> why does apt lock the directory when its only downloading stuff? :-(
[12:30] <luis_> holy! I got it to woek
[12:30] <luis_> work*
[12:30] <stealthy> bazhang, no one's around in there. It's probably something simple anyway.
[12:30] <bazhang> nice job luis_ waht did you do?
[12:30] <frojnd> if package doesn't have man, how can I get any info how to use a program
[12:30] <luis_> I had to drag it right over the stuff on the ipod >_<
[12:30] <luis_> lol
[12:30] <bazhang> stealthy: wha tis the issue?
[12:31] <stealthy> bazhang, I get very very very low fps on anything with compiz-fusion enabled, which is new
[12:31] <Peaker> frojnd, either it has a help, or maybe there's a -doc package for it, and maybe in /usr/share/doc/<package> and Google
[12:31] <luis_> I thought it was meant to be dragged over the window to the right
[12:31] <luis_> lol
[12:31] <stealthy> this is a new install of xubuntu
[12:31] <bazhang> frojnd: i hesitate to ask..what is the package?
[12:31] <luis_> but thanks got that bazhang
[12:31] <bascule> luis_: the top-half of the left pane is where to go
[12:31] <stealthy> on kubuntu, on an identical laptop, I didnt have this issue, hence my thinking its something simple.
[12:31] <frojnd> bazhang, lkl ofcourse :)
[12:31] <bazhang> luis_: no worries ;]
[12:31] <stealthy> I also had to apt-ge tinstall xserver-xgl
[12:31] <stealthy> never had to do that before either
[12:32] <bascule> luis_: you can also drag and drop from collection window to the device button on the left edge
[12:32] <cizarro> hello. I have a large .tar.gz-file and I want to extract only files that match a filename pattern (based on suffix). how do I do this?
[12:32] <don_> Hi, sorry, i had to log off for a minute.. I'm trying to sort out the source of my problem that smbfs mounts are quicker than cifs-mounts.. on the way i found that mii-tool and ethtool don't say the same (as i understand it)
[12:32] <luis_> yeah, thanks a lot, I love this IRC channel, lol
[12:32] <stealthy> bazhang, noo direct rendering for some reason
[12:32] <bazhang> stealthy not much up on xubuntu; is this an nvidia card?
[12:32] <Peaker> cizarro, you could use tar t and pass it through grep or such to generate the file listing, then pass that to tar x
[12:32] <bidossessi> where could i donwload the .deb files for a dhcp server? are there any special dependencies attached?
[12:33] <stealthy> bazhang, no, gma950
[12:33] <cizarro> Peaker, the tar-file is huge. I'd rather not go through it twice.
[12:33] <frojnd> Peaker, there is something in /usr/share/doc/lkl
[12:33] <cizarro> single-pass solution would be best
[12:33] <albech> is it recommended to manually install nvidia drivers from nvidias website? or should i use the ones avaialble in the packagemanager?
[12:33] <bazhang> arg I just saw this stealthy; you need to grep something ...scrolling up
[12:34] <eitreach> kbrooks, alright, I am now registered with a server, and with the msn gateway. Now what do I do in Pidgin?
[12:34] <Peaker> cizarro, I would guess that whatever small portions it goes through will get cached, and its same O() :-)
[12:34] <Peaker> frojnd, what's lkl?
[12:34] <don_> albech: you will probably have to reinstall everytime the kernel version changes
[12:34] <cizarro> Peaker, it is compressed. hence not seekable. tar will need to go through _all_ of the .tar.gz
[12:34] <Peaker> cizarro, I see
[12:34] <frojnd> Peaker, userspace key logger
[12:34] <cizarro> Peaker, and decompress it completely too, even for t
[12:35] <stealthy> bazhang, glxinfo | grep direct
[12:35] <stealthy> direct rendering is off, and i think i know why, brb
[12:35] <scorpian> me o
[12:35] <albech> don_: the driver i was running was very old and it had some serious crash bugs
[12:35]  * scorpian o
[12:35] <Peaker> cizarro, I don't think tar itself has any such option.. you could extract it all then remove whatever you want?
[12:35] <Peaker> cizarro, and again, the same O() claim :-)
[12:35] <cizarro> Peaker, it's more than 50G of data uncompressed :-)
[12:35] <albech> don_: is there a way to update the drivers in the 'restricted driver manager' ??
[12:35] <don_> albech: the driver you ran from the packagemanager?
[12:36] <JediMaster> lo all, I'm having problems running the installer from the live cd at the moment, and tbh, it's not a suprise as I've just noticed the spec on the machine handed to me by a friend, it's a PII 300mhz with 192mb ram lol
[12:36] <cizarro> Peaker, anyhow, thanks for the effort :-)
[12:36] <albech> don_: yes
[12:36] <don_> albech: well, sould update as it updates every package...
[12:36] <Peaker> cizarro, use the v(erbose) option and pipe it into a shell/python script that immediately deletes stuff it doesn't like :-)
[12:36] <cizarro> Peaker, hah :-)
[12:36] <eitreach> jedimaster, I'd use the alternate install cd. 192mb of ram is too little.
[12:36] <JediMaster> Is it Xubuntu that is the cut down ubuntu that would work on it?
[12:36] <don_> albech: do you have gutsy?
[12:36] <bidossessi> i have a desktop at home that i need to turn into a dhcp server. it's got an atheros wireless card. the only problem is that i don't have internet at home. how should I go about solving that problem?
[12:36] <visof> how can i be root?
[12:36] <albech> don_: its still the same driver i had when i installed.. and yes, gutsy
[12:37] <eitreach> jedimaster, the alternate install cd also installs Ubuntu, but without the graphical interface.
[12:37] <visof> what is the command to be root?
[12:37] <bazhang> JediMaster: you might also consider #fluxbuntu
[12:37] <eitreach> thus lowering the amount of needed resources.
[12:37] <bascule> !root | visof
[12:37] <ubotu> visof: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:37] <albech> visof: sudo
[12:37] <don_> albech: i used to have the same problem, but i upgraded to gutsy...
[12:37] <Pici> !requirements-#xubuntu | JediMaster
[12:37] <ubotu> JediMaster: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Xubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu
[12:37] <bazhang> JediMaster: or the minimal install
[12:37] <JediMaster> eitreach: is there any point in installing it if it's not likely to run when installed anyhow?
[12:37] <albech> don_: i am running v 7.10
[12:37] <JediMaster> thanks bazhang
[12:38] <bazhang> JediMaster: it might run--but gnome would be slooow
[12:38] <don_> albech: yeah, me too, weird..
[12:38] <visof> albech some option is required?
[12:38] <travisat> ahhh need cigarette and walgreens doesn't open for 20 more minutes
[12:38] <don_> albech: do you have nvidia-glx, -dev or -new?
[12:38] <don_> (installed)
[12:39] <gileswwwrk_> whats the hardy chan?
[12:39] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <visof> i can't use mk command with sudo
[12:39] <visof> what should i do?
[12:39] <albech> don_: let me check.. what has been happening since install is that the whole system crash (require hard reboot) randomly when scrolling in firefox and opera
[12:40] <gileswwwrk_> ta
[12:40] <bazhang> mk? visof
[12:40] <bazhang> i thought it was make
[12:40] <visof> bazhang didn't you study c before?
[12:41] <tinman> There is something called "mk" ?
[12:41] <don_> I try it again: I'm trying to sort out the source of my problem that smbfs mounts are quicker than cifs-mounts.. on the way i found that mii-tool and ethtool don't say the same (as i understand it)
[12:41] <bazhang> i before e except after c is all I know of c
[12:41] <scorpian> o
[12:42] <scorpian> grep
[12:42] <bascule> scorpian: wrong shell mate :D
[12:42] <cizarro> don_, what is your question?
[12:43] <cizarro> don_, ethtool and mii-tool use different interface to the kernel. ethtool = more modern (netlink), mii-tool = obsolete. depending on NIC drivers, one or other will work, ethtool being the more implemented one nowadays.
[12:43] <JediMaster> Anyone here used Fluxbuntu before?
[12:43] <Odd-rationale> JediMaster: I have.
[12:44] <bazhang> JediMaster: yes, on the eeepc ;]
[12:44] <Odd-rationale> JediMaster: I even have it installed on my friend's computer. He like it and is new to linux.
[12:44] <JediMaster> bazhang: think this machine can cope with running firefox, apache2 and mysql?
[12:44] <don_> cizarro: ok, so it could be possible, that mii-tool doesn't recognise a 1gb-ethernet ? it says that it negociated on 100-FullDuplex while ethtool says "speed: 1000Mb/s"
[12:44] <JediMaster> on flux
[12:45] <cizarro> don_, yes
[12:45] <UbuntuG> =>
[12:45] <UbuntuG> xchat sucks =D
[12:45] <ikonia> JediMaster what machine, you've just told use the desktop - nothing else
[12:45] <cizarro> don_, if ethtool works, use it. forget about mii-tool.
[12:45] <Thomas> I need some help with the 2.6.24-rc5-zen1 kernel and tha ath5k wireless driver
[12:45] <JediMaster> nope, I said earlier =) PII 300mhz 192mb
[12:45] <ikonia> Thomas: where are you getting that kernel ?
[12:45] <Thomas> the repositories
[12:45] <ikonia> JediMaster I missed that, your a bit shy on ram and processing power, depends how busy they are going to be
[12:45] <bazhang> JediMaster: firefox is the question mark
[12:45] <ikonia> Thomas: which ones ? I can't see that quetion
[12:46] <don_> cizarro: ok thanks
[12:46] <ikonia> Thomas: question ?? sorry kernel
[12:46] <Thomas> Don't know really
[12:46] <bazhang> hehe
[12:46] <ikonia> Thomas: you don't konw which repo your getting it from ?
[12:46] <don_> cizarro: do you know causes for a different speed between smbfs and cifs mounts?
[12:46] <bazhang> slack repos?
[12:46] <ikonia> don_: encyption layer mostly ?
[12:47] <cizarro> don_, differernt protocols more or less. smbfs uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. CIFS uses SMB directly.
[12:47] <cizarro> don_, also different negotiation and all kinds of other stuff.
[12:47] <Thomas> not, i just look up madwifi in synaptics and about thre kernels pop up with it
[12:47] <cizarro> don_, cifs mounts quickly here though. you might check your network traffic to debug
[12:47] <ikonia> Thomas are you using xen ?
[12:47] <don_> ciizarro: yeah, the mounting itself is no problem
[12:48] <Thomas> not now, i can't get ath5k to see my wireless card
[12:48] <ikonia> Thomas: are you planning to use xen ?
[12:48] <Thomas> if I can get ath5k configured
[12:48] <ikonia> Thomas: so thats a "yes"
[12:48] <Thomas> yep
[12:49] <yaser> why some of my session programs have some delay in starting up(example:compiz fusion)? How can i dilucidate this?
[12:49] <don_> cizarro: but the transfers.. other way round, if i get a file to a windows -machine (working on it) it's very quick. so i guess the problem must be cifs..?
[12:49] <Thomas> ikonia, what kernel are you using
[12:49] <Dukan> oi
[12:49] <ikonia> Thomas: doesn't matter what I'm using
[12:49] <bazhang> hi Dukan
[12:50] <Thomas> why so harsh
[12:50] <Dukan> haha fala portugues bazhang?
[12:50] <ikonia> Thomas not being harsh
[12:50] <Pici> !br| Dukan
[12:50] <ubotu> Dukan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:50] <Thomas> aahh
[12:50] <Dukan> hhhahahhaha
[12:50] <bazhang> Dukan: brasil?
[12:50] <Dukan> fanfarroes
[12:50] <Dukan> ye
[12:50] <Dukan> yes
[12:51] <cizarro> don_, you didn't mention anything about transfers being slow. only mounts.
[12:51] <ikonia> Thomas: I can't see that kernel in the ubuntu repo's at all
[12:51] <bazhang> Dukan: type /join #ubuntu-br
[12:51] <ikonia> Thomas: please confirm the version again please.
[12:51] <yaser> why some of my session programs have some delay in starting up(example:compiz fusion)? How can i dilucidate this?
[12:51] <inertial> ach, zugzwang
[12:51] <cizarro> don_, there is a bug in win xp >= TCP/IP stack in window scaling option negotation, you might be hitting that
[12:51] <Thomas> I am cheking, just a minute
[12:51] <don_> cizarro: sorry, i meant the transfers from these mounts.. the mounting itself goes well
[12:51] <Dukan> ubotu, here have  very emotion
[12:51] <bazhang> yaser: dilucidate? not sure what you mean there; what card and what driver do you have
[12:52] <cizarro> don_, what do you mean by "slow" then?
[12:52] <Dukan> I'am studying english.
[12:52] <don_> i'm not able to watch a movie within a cifs-mounted directory, but with smbfs it works without freezing every five secs
[12:53] <Dukan> :-p
[12:53] <yaser> bazhang, how can i know the reason
[12:53] <don_> that's slow :)
[12:53] <ikonia> Thomas: I'm just checked the most current listed is 2.6.22
[12:53] <bazhang> yaser: how slow we talking about
[12:53] <yaser> bazhang, yea i know
[12:54] <Thomas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874
[12:54] <Blinkiz> I have installed sun-java6-jdk and it works fine. But in the path if I write "java" I get response from a java 1.5.0, "gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.2.1 (Ubuntu 4.2.1-5ubuntu5)". How do I install this one?
[12:54] <yaser> baz, look
[12:54] <yaser> bazhang, i dont think is a CF problem
[12:54] <Blinkiz> Sorry, how do I UNINSTALL that, i mean
[12:54] <ikonia> Thomas: they are not ubuntu packages
[12:54] <bazhang> yaser: you mentioned cf--how slow?
[12:54] <Thomas> I am using gutsy gibbon 7.10 with 2.6.22 generic
[12:54] <ushimitsudoki> I applied a theme, but it doesn't work in those applications I run with sudo...how can I correct this?
[12:54] <ikonia> Thomas: that is a package that a user has built
[12:54] <Pici> Blinkiz: run: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:55] <yaser> bazhang, i mean that at session startup it doesnt start
[12:55] <Dukan> bazhang, thanks, but I'm studying about linux and english. haha
[12:55] <yaser> bazhang, till some second laters
[12:55] <yaser> bazhang, sometimes a minute
[12:55] <Blinkiz> Pici: Thanks, it was a nice little program. But I don't really need the other java. Should I uninstall it?
[12:55] <bazhang> yaser: that is not a terribly long time--everything else works fine then?
[12:55] <don_> cizarro: so basically: a cifs-mounted directory is much slower than a smbfs-mounted directory.. and i don't have any clue where to look for the problem
[12:56] <Dukan> Thomas, are you from LB?
[12:56] <yaser> bazhang, yea it is not a big problem but...
[12:56] <Thomas> LB?
[12:56] <Pici> Blinkiz: I think it might be set as a depends for some critical packages, I usually just leave it alone..
[12:56] <Dukan> Linux Brasil?
[12:56] <cizarro> don_, quite busy now, but I'd start with google if I was you. something like "cifs much slower than smbfs when transffering data to windows from linux".
[12:56] <Blinkiz> Pici: Ok, thanks for the help
[12:56] <Thomas> No,
[12:56] <bazhang> Dukan: this is not really a chat channel--you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that ;]
[12:57] <yaser> bazhang, if i look into System->Preference->Sessions then i see there are some services that appear unnconected
[12:57] <don_> cizarro: if i hadn't done that, i wouldnt be here :D
[12:57] <Dukan> afferson
[12:57] <bazhang> yaser: which services?
[12:57] <yaser> bazhang, then at some moment all of them(included CF) start workning
[12:58] <bazhang> yaser: after a 60 second delay?
[12:58] <yaser> bazhang, yeap
[12:58] <bazhang> yaser: want to trade computers? ;]
[12:59] <bazhang> my gutsy takes 2-3 mins to boot ;[
[12:59] <tinman> bazhang: same
[12:59] <yaser> bazhang, look, im talking after i enter my gnome session
[13:00] <yaser> bazhang, everything loads and i can work perfectly, but a minute after that
[13:00] <bazhang> yaser: well sounds like a service conflict--though this is just a guess
[13:00] <wyclif> back
[13:00] <Dukan> bosta
[13:00] <Dukan> alguém gosta?
[13:00] <yaser> bazhang, what should i try, i have played with priorities but nothing
[13:01] <Dukan> Quem come bosta aqui que se fale alguma coisa
[13:01] <bazhang> yaser: have you tried shutting down some of the services and see how that affects it?
[13:02] <bazhang> Dukan: please english and ontopic
[13:02] <Thomas> I wrong It is 2.6.22-14 xen
[13:02] <Karti> anyone here recommend visudo  Many thanks
[13:02] <yaser> bazhang, yep that too, may be the problem is deeper
[13:02] <yaser> bazhang, this happens since my fresh install
[13:03] <bazhang> yaser: any other stuttering occur; such as mouse lag, movie music playing network etc
[13:04] <[blackb]> ver irc.oltrelinux.com
[13:04] <yaser> bazhang, nothing of that
[13:04] <bazhang> Karti: not familiar with that--what are you trying to accomplish
[13:05] <_rodders> anyone knows how to "kill" a process E.g. 9104  0.2  0.6 2663620 22816 ?       DL   20:58   0:00 MovieCatalog.exe
[13:05] <bazhang> yaser: only with compiz fusion then?
[13:05] <_rodders> I've tried kill -9 kill -1 etc nothing works
[13:06] <Karti> bazhang: Sorry its the wrong channel.....its similar to sudo that is used on ubuntu
[13:06] <Dukan> ok bazhang, i am talk with my brazilian friend
[13:06] <bazhang> Karti: aha ;]
[13:06] <yaser> bazhang, if i quit compiz fusion anyway the other services delay, another clue, the gnome-volume-manager is the first of the list, if i remove from my session anyway it loads
[13:06] <Blinkiz> Am having problem running a startup script I have created from the template of sshd startupscript. The script should start the Axis2 Standalone Webserver that is located in /opt/axis2. The problem am having is that I don't understand how the --exec command works. I guess am trying to pass to much information into start-stop-daemon. Someone that would like to take a quick look and give suggestions about my "$STARTLINE"? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53847/
[13:06] <yaser> bazhang, why is that?
[13:07] <_rodders> anyone?
[13:07] <Gerrit_> hello there
[13:07] <Gerrit_> is Rick in the room?
[13:07] <Karti> _rodders: have you tried kill 9104
[13:07] <bazhang> yaser I see so you think it is the sound manager?
[13:07] <Karti> _rodders: or man the killall command
[13:08] <Gerrit_> does ubuntu support the TPM from trustedcompoutuing.org?
[13:08] <bazhang> _rodders: exe? as in on a windows install?
[13:08] <bazhang> Gerrit_: hopefully not ;]
[13:08] <yaser> bazhang, might be, it loads otherwhere out of my session?
[13:08] <Gerrit_> :-)
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Gerrit_: what is tpm
[13:08] <Gerrit_> Trusted Platform Module
[13:09] <bazhang> treacherous computing
[13:09] <Gerrit_> a device to store cryptographic keys
[13:09] <Gerrit_> www.trustedcomputing.org
[13:09] <th0r> I have just discovered a one hour discrepancy between the hwclock and the system clock in my server. I can set hwclock to system clock and everything is fine until the next boot....when the one hour discrepancy shows up again. Both clocks are set to local time and the TZ info is up to date and correct. I have found plenty of links in google, but none correct the problem
[13:09] <bazhang> an oxymoron of a name if there ever was one ;]
[13:09] <verb3k> Gerrit_, Trusted Computing is a bad and gloomy future
[13:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> abunda xinga guinga longa
[13:10] <elbermungsterses> hi guys, i was just wondering what the latest linux kernel image for ubuntu was. any clues?
[13:10] <Gerrit_> I have a TPM in my MacBook
[13:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> cana duda xuma laga?
[13:10] <Gerrit_> I wanted to see what it does
[13:10] <bazhang> yaser: I am sadly uninformed when it comes to sound--some of the genuinely knowledgeable folks here may help though ;]
[13:10] <Gerrit_> but OS
[13:10] <Gerrit_>  X
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Kamus_H_Zwisch: English please
[13:10] <Gerrit_> doesnt support is
[13:10] <ushimitsudoki> elbermungsterses: 2.6.22-14
[13:10] <Gerrit_> *it
[13:10] <Gerrit_> so i wanted to see if ubuntu does
[13:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Jack_Sparrow: this hurts the opensource spirit
[13:11] <TT> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874
[13:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> but ok
[13:11] <elbermungsterses> 2.6.22-14, huh?...
[13:11] <bazhang> Gerrit_: if linux supports it then we will all move to os x ;]
[13:11] <yaser> bazhang, anyway i want to thank you by your attention
[13:11] <TT> 2.6.24-rc4-zen1
[13:11] <elbermungsterses> okay, i gots the latest version.
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kamus_H_Zwisch: We have channels in every lang.
[13:11] <Gerrit_> qare you guys that scared of TPMs? :)
[13:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Jack_Sparrow:
[13:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> not in my tribal lang
[13:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> or even in latin
[13:11] <Rick_> bazhang: ;-]
[13:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :p
[13:11] <elbermungsterses> thanks, ushimtsudoki.
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kamus_H_Zwisch: do you have a ?
[13:11] <bazhang> yaser: sorry not to help out more--you might also post in the c-f channel if any one is alive there ;]
[13:12] <Gerrit_> gotta go
[13:12] <Gerrit_> see yall laterz
[13:12] <bazhang> bye
[13:12] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> yep
[13:12] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Jack_Sparrow: i and my brother have made a own lang
[13:12] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Jack_Sparrow: don't have channes for this lang
[13:12] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :d
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please ask your question pertaining to ubuntu
[13:12] <verb3k> yaser, is that Yaser or Yasser ? :)
[13:13] <bazhang> offtopic Kamus_H_Zwisch and dangerously close to the line
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hmmm
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> nothing
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> just visit for help others
[13:13] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> !dict
[13:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dict - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> !grub
[13:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> !lilo
[13:13] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[13:13] <bazhang> ruh roh
[13:13] <Pici> !msgthebot | Kamus_H_Zwisch
[13:13] <ubotu> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please msg the bot privately
[13:13] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> dontmsgthebot is better
[13:14] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> ok
[13:14] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> sorry
[13:14] <bidossessi> i have a desktop at home that i need to turn into a dhcp server. it's got an atheros wireless card. the only problem is that i don't have internet at home. how should I go about solving that problem? are tehre special dependencies to consired?
[13:14] <bidossessi> *consider
[13:14] <yaser> verb3k, well im yaser
[13:14] <yaser> verb3k, normally its yasser
[13:14] <bazhang> bidossessi: depends on what your isp says about that; some frown on it
[13:15] <verb3k> yaser, and from?
[13:15] <Pici> bazhang: He has no internet.
[13:15] <bidossessi> bazhang, what isp would that be?
[13:15] <bazhang> could you guys take it #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[13:15] <stephen-mason> does anyone know of like a virtual network design/router program. (for ccna for linux) i sound foren lol
[13:16] <bazhang> bidossessi: you are starting your own internet service?
[13:16] <Pici> bazhang, bidossessi: I assume you just want a local DHCP server for you lan?
[13:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> \o
[13:17] <bazhang> thanks Pici!
[13:17] <bidossessi> bazhang, no i have a mythtv box and a laptop  that needs to be client; but i also se that laptop at work so "ifconfig" all the time is a pain
[13:17] <bidossessi> bazhang, basically yes, lan dhcp
[13:18] <stephen-mason> virtual router configuration tool?
[13:18] <bidossessi> but since i will download the packages from work and do an offline install, i don't want to ba caught with my pants down. i just wanted to know if there were any specail dependecies to consider or if i could just grab the dhcp3-server .deb from somewhere and be ok
[13:20] <verb3k> bidossessi, I think copyingthe packages in the APT cache (/var/cache/apt/archives/) to the other machine may work (if it's the same version)
[13:20] <verb3k> copying the*
[13:20] <napnap> hi
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bidossessi: see also /msg ubotu aptoncd
[13:21] <napnap> I cannot open port with user, I do use sudo to use application which use some special port. how can I do to allow user to open ports please .
[13:21] <bidossessi> verb3k, i have a gutsy (i think) mythbuntu at home and a test Xubuntu (also gutsy) at work.
[13:21] <napnap> ?
[13:21] <stephen-mason> hello? anyone know any sort of virtual router software?
[13:22] <verb3k> bidossessi, I think they ahould be the same (if they are the same architecture )
[13:22] <bascule> stephen-mason: for design or for real?
[13:22] <bidossessi> nope, home is x86_64
[13:22] <Dukan> please don't  cry
[13:22] <stephen-mason> i need to design a network and then configure the devices and test it?
[13:22] <Dukan> babe
[13:22] <oscar> !list
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[13:23] <stdin> oscar: ?
[13:23] <oscar> si
[13:23] <verb3k> bidossessi, then I don't know whether it will work, ask a specialist :)
[13:23] <bazhang> hehe
[13:24] <stdin> oscar: try #ubuntu-it
[13:24] <bidossessi> guess that's what i'm doing :)
[13:24] <oscar> #ubuntu-it
[13:24] <oscar> scusate ma qui non si scarica?
[13:24] <stephen-mason>  bascule, ???? any idea of what im looking for?
[13:24] <stdin> oscar: /join #ubuntu-it
[13:25] <bascule> stephen-mason: no, that's why I asked, is it like network CAD or do you really want to turn a linux bix into a router
[13:25] <bascule> bix/box
[13:25] <bazhang> http://www.howtoforge.com/dhcp_server_linux_debian_sarge this also works for ubuntu 7.10 bidossessi
[13:25] <Dukan> kkkkkkkkk
[13:25] <stephen-mason> network cad, :D lol
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Dukan: PLease do not do that
[13:26] <stephen-mason> only for a college assignment, dont need to physically work or do anything
[13:26]  * verb3k agrees with Jack_Sparrow 
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Dukan: <ay I pm?
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> May
[13:26] <bascule> stephen-mason: sure, get a big design before imlementation
[13:27] <stephen-mason> any ideas of software? i was using a cisco one before
[13:27] <kodge> Other than the in-built DVD burner for Ubuntu, is there any other programs that can burn movies to dvd? Because last night I tried burning some movies to a DVD and it just made a data-dvd instead of an actual movie dvd
[13:27] <stephen-mason> but thats 4 xp
[13:27] <bazhang> bidossessi: the offline part is where I get stuck though aptoncd might well do
[13:27] <bidossessi> bazhang, i have no problem setting it up, once it's installed. i'm quiter familiar with dhcpd.conf the problem is with running apt-get: no internet
[13:27] <bascule> stephen-mason: nope :)
[13:27] <stephen-mason> you bastard, lol! :)
[13:27] <albech> what is the latest version of the nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[13:27] <bascule> lol
[13:27] <bascule> !info nvidia-glx
[13:28] <ubotu> nvidia-glx (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (2.6.22.4-14.10)): NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4387 kB, installed size 13352 kB
[13:28] <stephen-mason> google it is
[13:28] <Raspberry> my local workstaiton can't see a dns hostname
[13:28] <storm> whare cin i find and install flash plug for opera netbrowser in ubuntu
[13:28] <bazhang> kodge devede k3b are a couple of options
[13:28] <storm> where can
[13:29] <albech> bascule: how come my nvidia tells me its version: 100.14.19 ?? is than an older version?
[13:29] <bascule> !flash | storm
[13:29] <kodge> Bazhang: Thanks, ill take a look :)
[13:29] <ubotu> storm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:29] <Raspberry> I just added the new hostname to my DNS servers -- my DNS master and slave see it... but I can't seem to do anything short of restarting the computer to get it to see the new hostname
[13:29] <Raspberry> Honestly that Flash problem should be directly blamed on Ubuntu
[13:29] <bascule> albech: no idea
[13:29] <Raspberry> it should have been fixed almost 2 months ago
[13:30] <bazhang> indeed
[13:30] <verb3k> that's right
[13:30] <stephen-mason> vitual pc is taking so long to install something its gayyyy!
[13:30] <stephen-mason> any help? ol
[13:30] <bidossessi> bazhang, would the dvd or the server cd have that package? if so, then maybe i can hold for a few days, until i get it; although i'd hoped someone would tell me it has no known dependencies
[13:31] <bazhang> bidossessi: the madwifi or the aptoncd? you can msg the bot with /msg ubotu info packagename and find out
[13:31] <bidossessi> madwifi's already fine. i just need dhcp
[13:32] <bazhang> bidossessi: also for the dependencies you can search packages.ubuntu.com
[13:32] <verb3k> bidossessi, aptoncd soesn't contain any packages itself, just caches the ones you already have to a CD
[13:32] <verb3k> bidossessi, doesn't
[13:32] <bidossessi> aptoncd might not be what i need since i don't have a  64 system at work
[13:32] <bazhang> he wants dhcp verb3k iirc
[13:33] <bidossessi> but i'll check out that link you posted above and see
[13:33] <bazhang> bidossessi: there is also a firefox plugin that lets you search packages.ubuntu.com from the google searchbar
[13:34] <bazhang> stephen-mason: on windows?
[13:34] <mo0n_sniper> +ping
[13:35] <bazhang> stephen-mason: if on ubuntu-virtualbox or vmware-server are much better
[13:35] <bazhang> back in a minute
[13:36] <pequatre> hi. can anyone point me to where i could get help using celestia in Gutsy ? i'm trying to install an add-on but the model is not displayed when i use celestia.
[13:36] <Ballena> If I have added a task to crontab. Will cron automatically start with the system and perform its tasks?
[13:36] <bidossessi> bazhang, ok, it looks like it doesn't depend on anything too exotic, tho i'm not familiar with ubuntu's base packages yet. i'm pulling it anyway and que sera sera. thx
[13:36] <student_> bokić
[13:37] <stephen-mason> im on vmware sevrer its taking ages to install windows
[13:37] <student> joksaaaaaaaa
[13:37] <student_> bokić patrik
[13:38] <king> uuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:38] <verb3k> king, what's this?
[13:39] <bidossessi> Ballena, yes
[13:40] <student_> ciao ekipa. kak ste? ja sam dobro. bokić
[13:40] <storm> Adobe Flash player and gnash is only working whit Firfox but not whit Opera what is wrong
[13:40] <king> ludnica
[13:40] <suzi> .................
[13:40] <dgjones> !hr | student_
[13:40] <ubotu> student_: za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[13:42] <albech> at least it looks like the community finally accepted the bug i reported months ago :(
[13:42] <albech> maybe if we are lucky it will be fixed with Hardy
[13:42] <ivana> mmmmmmm
[13:43] <albech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/145112
[13:43] <slafka> hhhh
[13:43] <slafka> ma tko si ti
[13:43] <ratnici> hihihihih
[13:43] <slafka> hrvatska
[13:43] <ratnici> hahaha
[13:43] <mattd> slafka: ratnici please speak in english only
[13:43] <slafka> hrvatska
[13:43] <ratnici> hehehe
[13:43] <mattd> slafka: you appear to be the same person as ratnici
[13:43] <slafka> hrvatska
[13:43] <student_> ciao slatka,ja sam studoš
[13:44] <bazhang> slafka: stop now
[13:44] <slafka> da, imas decka
[13:44] <student_> ok slatka slaeka
[13:44] <verb3k> slafka, only english is permitted here
[13:45] <slafka> imas curu
[13:45] <mattd> !hr | slafka
[13:45] <ubotu> slafka: za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[13:45] <verb3k> slafka, student_, you can use private messages if you want to talk to each other
[13:45] <Tyroazard> I know this isn't Ubuntu related, but my monitor now has a strip that's brighter than the rest of the screen
[13:45] <cdealer> hi to all... a litle question that maybe you can help me... Im trying to block the users to change the desktop background.. I changed the permission to the gnome-wallpaper app that change when you click with the right button on the desktop, but they can change the desktop background using the right button on some image in firefox or eog ... how can I block user to change the background definitily
[13:45] <Tyroazard> Help?
[13:46] <mattd> Tyroazard join #hardware
[13:46] <student_> ne,al to ne znači da nisam zauzet. gay je koej
[13:46] <student_> okej
[13:46] <Ballena> is there a configuration file where I can add programs to run at the startup?
[13:46] <bazhang> Tyroazard: never admit that ;]
[13:46] <mattd> .nick ikonia
[13:46] <mattd> oops
[13:47] <bazhang> cdealer: lock the screen
[13:47] <verb3k> Ballena, yes, you can use a gnome GUI app to do that (not sure about the file itself)
[13:48] <igors> hi all...im with an usb camera, but i doesnt mount. i just see in my /var/log/messages: "usb 3-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4" and "usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices"
[13:48] <verb3k> Ballena, system>>sessions>>startup programs
[13:48] <Ballena> verb3k: yes I know theres a tool for that. Just wondering if there were a conf-file I could use
[13:48] <verb3k> Ballena, there surely is, but I'm not sure about it so toy can keep asking :)  sorry
[13:48] <cdealer> bazhang: what do you mean with lock the screen?
[13:48] <domenico> ciao
[13:49] <Ballena> :)
[13:49] <bazhang> hello domenico
[13:49] <domenico> !list
[13:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:49] <bazhang> cdealer: is there not an icon on the lower panel that allows you to do so?
[13:49] <verb3k> cdealer, lock it so that when you are away,nobody touches your computer
[13:50] <ivana> cao suzi
[13:50] <verb3k> bazhang, it that what you meant?
[13:50] <ivana> kako si
[13:50] <cdealer> bazhang: I think you dont full understand my problem...
[13:50] <bazhang> verb3k: from the panel icon?
[13:50] <ivana> daj odgovori
[13:50] <suzi> ok
[13:51] <bazhang> cdealer: then give us more details ;]
[13:51] <Nik0la0s> hello if i find .deb package outside of the repository is it safe to run it by 2click on it ? will synaptic open it?
[13:51] <cdealer> I need to block the possibility to change the desktop background to any client (not my machine), I have about 80 clients using the server...
[13:52] <bazhang> cdealer: ah, that is much clearer
[13:52] <Nik0la0s> ?
[13:52] <cdealer> I tried changing the permission of ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml but didnt work
[13:53] <Pedro> Yo... Im looking for help in mounting medias!!!
[13:53] <Pedro> Im getting the messages mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[13:53] <bazhang> Nik0la0s: 2click? what is that
[13:53] <verb3k> cdealer, which ubuntu version?
[13:53] <Nik0la0s> doubleclick
[13:53] <Pedro> My version is 7.1
[13:53] <verb3k> bazhang, double click :)
[13:54] <Pedro> doubleclick does not work
[13:54] <cdealer> verb3k: 7.10
[13:54] <bazhang> thanks verb3k! ;]
[13:54] <Nik0la0s> Pedro, yes it dousnt but why? its a deb packag after all
[13:54] <verb3k> what about changing the permissions of /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties
[13:54] <verb3k> cdealer, what about changing the permissions of /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties
[13:54] <tinman> Nik0la0s: dpkg -i file.deb in terminal would work
[13:55] <cdealer> verb3k: lets make a test...
[13:55] <verb3k> cdealer, ok, waiting :)
[13:55] <Pedro> Does anyone  could give me a tip how to mount cd and dvds?
[13:56] <ardchoille> !mount
[13:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[13:56] <Nik0la0s> tinman, yes that works but why on doubleclick synaptic wont open it so to install it?
[13:56] <bozone> One little question with vsftpd: Does it matter if port 21 is tcpwrapped? I cant seem to start it up...
[13:56] <cdealer> verb3k: I had already changed the permission to this bin, the user cant change the background by right clicking in the desktop, but still can change right click on the browser and choosing the option set as desktop background...
[13:56] <Pici> Sorry about the op spam.
[13:56] <tinman> Nik0la0s: Maybe you don't have the gui to install the .deb package
[13:56] <ikonia> bozone doesn't matter to start it up, matters to those accessing it
[13:56] <bim> how can I run the restricted driver manager from command level? X server won't start on this ATI hw as things are.
[13:56] <bazhang> hehe more like bot spam
[13:57] <dgjones> Pici, better to have a bit of op spam, than a lot of junk spam
[13:57] <Nik0la0s> tinman, what you mean?
[13:57] <bozone> ikonia: How can I connect then - get a 421 connection denied answer
[13:57] <L3ttuc3> ah you know my ubuntu died on me. sadly im back in win xp to back up some stuff before i reinstall ubuntu.
[13:57] <tinman> Nik0la0s: maybe there is a gui frontend for dpkg that you need
[13:57] <ikonia> bozone: first is vsftpd running ?
[13:57] <L3ttuc3> man i hate this.
[13:58] <ikonia> L3ttuc3: do you have a question yes/no ?
[13:58] <bozone> ikonia: it says OK when I start it from /etc/init.d/vsftpd
[13:58] <verb3k> cdealer, hmm, well seems an interesting thing to research :)
[13:58] <ikonia> bozone check it's running
[13:58] <ikonia> bozone: the "ok" is just an init script returning "true"
[13:58] <bazhang> L3ttuc3: what is the issue
[13:58] <Ballena> How-come the system won't remember my settings like "export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim"?
[13:58] <Nik0la0s> tinman, the gui front end for dpkg is synaptic, isnt it?
[13:58] <bozone> ikonia: It wont start up right - did last wednesday but today it wont - very strange
[13:59] <PriceChild> Nik0la0s, there are lots, that is one
[13:59] <ikonia> bozone: so it is not running yes/no ?
[13:59] <cdealer> verb3k: yeah... so a quick search took me to .gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml ... but this file is just the tip of the iceberg... must have other that is who nautilus obay
[13:59] <ikonia> bozone: please answer my questions with answers rather comments
[13:59] <bozone> ikonia: not runnig accordign to ps
[13:59] <Nik0la0s> if i download a .deb package does that mean that has all dependencies inside it?
[13:59] <ikonia> bozone:  - right - so now try to start it manually and see what happens
[13:59] <LjL> Nik0la0s: no
[13:59] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: no it won't
[13:59] <PriceChild> Nik0la0s, no
[13:59] <bazhang> wow that is a first
[13:59] <bozone> ikonia: I did, doesn't help
[13:59] <Nik0la0s> only if it comes for a repository it does?
[14:00] <bullgard4> Do 'unionfs' and 'namespace unification file system' refer to the same thing?
[14:00] <PriceChild> Nik0la0s, the idea of dependencies mean you don't have to download a load of cruft if you already have it. Saves downloads and space.
[14:00] <erUSUL> Ballena: ypou need to put that on some bash init script such as $HOME/.bashrc
[14:00] <ikonia> bozone: what happesn ? come on, give me stuff to help you with
[14:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: no
[14:00] <Ballena> erUSUL:  aha, ic. BTW what is the difference between EDITOR and VISUAL?
[14:00] <Nik0la0s> PriceChild, can you explain that a bit more?
[14:00] <moldy_> where is the system-wide java keystore on ubuntu?
[14:00] <ikonia> moldy_: where ever you chose to put it
[14:00] <bozone> ikonia: it gives me no reply to the command 'vsftpd'
[14:00] <ikonia> moldy_: normally your home dir
[14:01] <Pici> moldy_: keystore?
[14:01] <ikonia> bozone: start it in the same way as the init script
[14:01] <ikonia> Pici: java keystore - java's implimentation of certificates
[14:01] <Pici> ikonia: Ah. Okay ;)
[14:01] <bozone> ikonia: # /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[14:01] <bozone>  * Starting FTP server: vsftpd
[14:01] <PriceChild> Nikki85, ok well if you want do download say.... "gizmod", it knows it needs "libgizmod", "libH". If you don't have either of those packages, it downloads them at hte same time.
[14:01] <frojnd> can anyone advice me for any rootkid finder ?
[14:01] <ikonia> Pici: only really used in java front end - middle ware connections (just an aside FYI:)
[14:01] <sagieg> how is it possible to reado PDF files in ubuntu?
[14:02] <ikonia> frojnd: chkroot
[14:02] <PriceChild> Nikki85, however. if you already have "libH" installed, it will only download "gizmod" and "libgizmod"
[14:02] <ikonia> frojnd: chkrootkit sorry
[14:02] <bazhang> rkhunter frojnd
[14:02] <PriceChild> sagieg, the "evince" pdf reader is installed by default.
[14:02] <L3ttuc3> bazhang not entired sure, but i think there were issues with my usb disk. kept getting kernel messages about the module resetting the device, and latterly, during a second ubuntu install, of IO errors.
[14:02] <erUSUL> Ballena: dunno sorry never heard of VISUAL
[14:02] <sagieg> Pricechild : thanks
[14:03] <Ballena> erUSUL: ok
[14:03] <verb3k> cdealer, I think I found a solution, but it's a little bit clumsy(but should work) make a file in the home dir named Firefox_wallpaper.png and take the write permissions from it, and then firefox can neither overwrite it nor replace it with a real wallpaper
[14:03] <sagieg> is it coming with xubuntu aswell?
[14:03] <L3ttuc3> bazhang so now, im going to zap my internal hard disk with the windows partition once i've backed up the data on there. i cant back up to the usb drive because that seems to have issues, one way or another, so dvds it is.
[14:03] <PriceChild> sagieg, no idea
[14:03] <ikonia> verb3k: firefox and wall paper ?
[14:03] <bazhang> L3ttuc3: good luck ;]
[14:04] <sagieg> yeah its running
[14:04] <verb3k> ikonia, sorry?
[14:04] <Nik0la0s> how doesent this work? mail -s "hello friend" from cli?
[14:04] <L3ttuc3> bazhang bah. thanks. i hope that that _was_ the problem, and there weren't deeper issues. anyone get funny messages from the kernel modules with usb disks?
[14:04] <erUSUL> Nik0la0s: error msg?
[14:04] <jimmyspark> hello fellow-ubuntiuns
[14:04] <Nik0la0s> mail: You must specify direct recipients with -s, -c, or -b
[14:04] <ikonia> verb3k firefox and wallpaper files ?
[14:05] <bazhang> hi jimmyspark
[14:05] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | Nik0la0s
[14:05] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:05] <verb3k> ikonia, what do you mean, I don't really understand your question
[14:05] <jimmyspark> hey bazhang, looking forward to hardy? ^^
[14:05] <tinman> Nik0la0s: man mail would help
[14:05] <Nik0la0s> whats the syntax to send an mail from cli?
[14:05] <erUSUL> Nik0la0s: you need to provide the recipient not just the subject
[14:05] <ikonia> verb3k: you passwd a comment about putting an image in the home dir so that firefox couldn't overwrite it
[14:05] <ikonia> passed sorry
[14:05] <ikonia> not passwd
[14:05] <moldy_> ikonia: hm thx
[14:05] <Nik0la0s> tinman, i already saw it but didnt help
[14:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 jimmyspark ;]
[14:05] <verb3k> ikonia, yes
[14:06] <gilda> is there a known fix for gutsy with mcp65 and mcp55 pata/sata controllers ?
[14:06] <ikonia> verb3k: I missed part of the question I'd be interested in understanding what you where saying
[14:06] <cdavis_> I have setup snort and BASE and BASE does not provide me with a link to the triggered ID? It only gives me a number
[14:06] <ikonia> verb3k: it looked like you where saying firefox would overwrite an image file as wallpaper ?
[14:06] <tinman> Nik0la0s: you will need to specify WHOM you want to mail
[14:06] <tinman> probably
[14:06] <frojnd> I'm trying to intall fluxtorrent but I have some problems with mysql database http://pastebin.ca/875976  how can I fix or get starting to solve this problem out ?
[14:06] <NET||abuse> I was wondering if it's possible to install KDE4 on my regular gnome ubuntu 7.10 install?
[14:06] <Nik0la0s> tinman, yes but i w=dont know the switch fro that
[14:07] <Nik0la0s> lathough ima looking in man page
[14:07] <erUSUL> Nik0la0s:  mail -s "hello friend" recipient@host.whatever
[14:07] <tinman> Nik0la0s: man page should have it
[14:07] <ikonia> frojnd: is the database running, your installer can't access it via the socket file
[14:07] <frojnd> ikonia, lemme check again
[14:08] <Nik0la0s> ok i presse ctrl-z after writing the mail
[14:08] <Nik0la0s> but [1]+  Stopped                 mail -s "hello friend" nikos1337@gmail.com
[14:08] <verb3k> ikonia, ok, the guy was asking about a way to prevent people from changing the wallpaper, and he removed the permissions of gnome-appearance-properties, but users can still change wallpapers through firefox, so making a file in the home directory as described and taking the write permissions from it should prevent firefox from changing the wallpaper, hope you get it now
[14:08] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: it's not crtl+z
[14:08] <Nik0la0s> how i tell it the data is over and sent ti now?
[14:08] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: it's just .
[14:09] <Nik0la0s> in an empty line
[14:09] <Nik0la0s> ?
[14:09] <ikonia> then pres . again
[14:09] <apollo13> hi, would this: http://dpaste.com/32863/ be enough to stick with a kernel in edgy eft?
[14:10] <verb3k> ikonia, what do you think :)
[14:10] <moldy_> ikonia: i have problems using a citrix web client, getting SSL errors because the cert is not trusted
[14:10] <ikonia> verb3k: just remove permissions to the wallpaper dir
[14:10] <Nik0la0s> thanks ikonia
[14:10] <ikonia> apollo13: what do you want to do ?
[14:10] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: welcome
[14:11] <verb3k> ikonia, where is that?
[14:11] <apollo13> ikonia: stick with a kernel, and don't install a new version
[14:11] <Nik0la0s> although i have sent to mails to my mail address at gmail no one arrived yet
[14:11] <moldy_> ikonia: and i don't really know where i need to import the cert :-/
[14:11] <Nik0la0s> and yes i did apt-get install mailx
[14:11] <apollo13> (although bugfixes would be okay)
[14:11] <Nik0la0s> how the mail never arrived?
[14:11] <ikonia> moldy_ the physical location shouldn't matter as java queries your keystore
[14:12] <verb3k> ikonia, do you know where the wallpapers dir is?
[14:12] <BizFatal> Has anyone experienced a problem where after a reboot your screen is permanently zoomed in?
[14:12] <ikonia> verb3k normally a users home dir, you could also use pam or selinux to restrict it, or lock down the .gnome dir on their home dir
[14:12] <Nik0la0s> can you tell me why the mails never arrived?
[14:12] <BizFatal> I can pan and scroll but can not zoom out
[14:13] <ikonia> Nik0la0s depends on how your mail server is set up
[14:13] <tinman> Nik0la0s: from what you pasted, hte mail was never sent
[14:13] <Nik0la0s> i only apt getted the mailx
[14:13] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: then you need to send mail
[14:13] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: mailx is not a mail server
[14:13] <Ladybug> hi...could anyone give me some help with "screenlets 0.0.12"?
[14:13] <Nik0la0s> i though mailx would suppose to sent the mail
[14:14] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: it will submit it to your mail server
[14:14] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: mailx is NOT a mail server
[14:14] <tinman> Nik0la0s: even when sent, gmail might block mails with no header.
[14:14] <tinman> Consedering it to be spam
[14:14] <Nik0la0s> ikonia, how do i know if iam runnign a mail server?
[14:14] <Nik0la0s> and what if i dont run it?
[14:14] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: if you don't know - your not
[14:15] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: then you'd need to run and configure one, or connect to a remote one
[14:15] <Nik0la0s> then is there a coomand to explicitly tell mail x to use my isp's mail server?
[14:16] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: mailx submits locally, you'd need a mail server to forward to host or relay thorugh your isp
[14:16] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ mail -s "hello friend" nikos1337@gmail.com [use that isp]
[14:16] <Nik0la0s> so a comamnd like the above isnt implemented in mailx i guess
[14:17] <ikonia> thats not using your isp
[14:17] <moldy_> how do i install a firefox plugin for sun java?
[14:17] <unop> moldy_, better if you use apt/synaptic to install java -- see !java
[14:17] <kosnick> is there any "easy" way to remount a usb stick which i have just umounted? instead of the "manual" way with the mount command?
[14:17] <moldy_> !java
[14:17] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[14:17] <Nik0la0s> ikonia, i mean i cant specify a mail server to use in the mailx comamnd?
[14:18] <ikonia> Nik0la0s I don't believe so, mailx is local submission only as I recall
[14:18] <bascule> mailx needs a preconfiged MTA
[14:18] <unop> kosnick, gnome-volume-manager should auto-mount your devices -- why do you have to use the mount command?
[14:18] <Nik0la0s> ikonia, can you please propose a mail server i need to use?
[14:18] <ikonia> bascule: thank you
[14:18] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: exim, sendmail, postfix, qmail you chose
[14:18] <ikonia> choose
[14:18] <Nik0la0s> which one do i want?
[14:18] <Nik0la0s> i ema new to linxu dont ask me to amke choices!
[14:18] <unop> Nik0la0s, i think exim is installed by default
[14:18] <frojnd> I've runed chkrootkit and tehre is something suspecios it doesn't sas that nothing found or smotehnig: Searching for OBSD rk v1... /usr/lib/security
[14:18] <frojnd> /usr/lib/security/classpath.security
[14:19] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: I don't know - which ever one your more comfortable with,
[14:19] <Nik0la0s> iam oming from xp :)
[14:19] <moldy_> unop: thanks for the hint, trying
[14:19] <ikonia> unop: postfix I think
[14:19] <tinman> qmail is nice
[14:19] <Dukan> hi little girl
[14:19] <Nik0la0s> unop, if exim is installed by default then why mailx didnt use exim?
[14:19] <unop> ikonia, default mta on ubuntu -- err, i dont think so, let me check anyway
[14:19] <ASderer> http://DIANA-MEINE-EX.gotdns.com/?id=5420b8f7
[14:19] <ASderer> http://DIANA-MEINE-EX.gotdns.com/?id=5420b8f7
[14:19] <ASderer> http://DIANA-MEINE-EX.gotdns.com/?id=5420b8f7
[14:19] <ikonia> unop: I could be wrong
[14:19] <ikonia> aslan: that was silly
[14:19] <ikonia> aslan: oops, not you sorry
[14:20] <jrib> Dukan: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[14:20] <Gnea> Hi all, I'm having an issue while installing ubuntu gutsy gibbon via a netboot - i'm at the "Select and install software" phase, so I select my software and when it goes to download it, it comes back with an error about how it can't find ubuntustudio-desktop and ubuntustudio-video - anyone else had that problem?
[14:20] <Nik0la0s> let me see tha analogy here
[14:20] <Nik0la0s> mailx for linux is what outlokk express is for windows ?
[14:20] <ikonia> Nik0la0s no, nothing like the same
[14:20] <Nik0la0s> iam tryign to analogically understand things
[14:20] <unop> Nik0la0s, i dunno - have you tried using the sendmail command to send email?
[14:21] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: there is nothing similar
[14:21] <ikonia> unop: was it exim ?
[14:21] <Nik0la0s> ikonia, mailx is a mail client application isnt it?
[14:21] <unop> ikonia, looks like exim4 is installed by default
[14:21] <gilda> running into an issue with ubuntu 7.10 - is not detecting my primary sata drive - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53854/  for further information - any help would be useful - unable to install due to this issue
[14:21] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: no
[14:21] <ikonia> unop: thanks
[14:21] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: no, evolution is about as close to outlook express as it gets - calendar is setup differently
[14:21] <Nik0la0s> its not?!
[14:21] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: no, it's a MTA
[14:21] <moldy_> unop, ikonia : fixed it, thank you.
[14:21] <BenderUnit22> ikonia: eh?
[14:21] <ikonia> actually its not
[14:21] <BenderUnit22> mailx an MTA?
[14:21] <Nik0la0s> whats an MTA ?
[14:21] <ikonia> bad choice of words
[14:21] <bascule> !mta
[14:21] <ubotu> A Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is the server software that sends and queues mail. The default MTA (and !MDA) on Ubuntu is !postfix ("exim" is also officially supported). See also !MailServer and !MUA
[14:21] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: mailx is a CLI mail client
[14:21] <ikonia> MUA
[14:22] <Nik0la0s> Gnea, i need a way to be able to send maisl from commandl line
[14:22] <ikonia> BenderUnit22: thank you
[14:22] <Nik0la0s> Gnea, great!
[14:22] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: thats what mailx is
[14:22] <Nik0la0s> that what i meant
[14:22] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: you might also want to check out mutt
[14:22] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: mailx will allow you to submit mail to a local MTA
[14:22] <Nik0la0s> Gnea, but as folsk here told me this mailx xleint doenst use by default some mail server to actually sent the mail
[14:23] <igors> how can i mount an usb camera mass storage?
[14:23] <matzki> What it the command, to show what is mounted where ?
[14:23] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: you'd need to setup your MTA separately (exim, sendmail, qmail, etc)
[14:23] <Pici> matzki: mount
[14:23] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: you might want to consider nullmailer, ssmtp or similar programs as well.
[14:23] <Gnea> matzki: df
[14:23] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: but as other people said, if you want Outlook, Evolution's your best bvet.
[14:23] <BenderUnit22> s/bvet/bet/
[14:23] <Nik0la0s> no actually i ahte OE
[14:23] <Gnea> igors: plug it in
[14:23] <BenderUnit22> :)
[14:24] <Nik0la0s> ok gyes so lt me see if ui undestood you
[14:24] <Nik0la0s> mailx and mutt and pine ALL there are cli mail cliesnts right?
[14:24] <Gnea> oh lovely: WARNING **: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1
[14:24] <unop> Nik0la0s, have you ruled out problems with mailx itself? have you tried another mua to send email>?
[14:24] <Nik0la0s> while local MTA == Local mail server ?
[14:24] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: yes, two times.
[14:24] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: yes.
[14:24] <unop> Nik0la0s, not server- just agent
[14:24] <Dukan> ?
[14:25] <Tuari> anytime i try to install any software via apt-get i get the message The package dmraid needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find and archive for it
[14:25] <Nik0la0s> so everytime you say the acronym MTA what i must understand is a Mail Server Correct?
[14:25] <Gnea> unop: it runs as a daemon, so technically it IS a mail server, that is local
[14:25] <ikonia> unop he's not got a configured MTA running, I think
[14:25] <Gnea> unop: it's just not a mail 'server' in the sense that it necessarily handles domain traffic
[14:25] <unop> Gnea, i wouldnt call it a "mail server"
[14:25] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: yes.
[14:25] <bascule> Nik0la0s: the MTA actually sends the mail in the correct format to wherever it needs to go
[14:25] <alan`> Tuari: dpkg --configure -a
[14:25] <Nik0la0s> is there a difference between a mail server and a mail agent?
[14:26] <Gnea> unop: there is a difference, and in the linux world, that's how it is.
[14:26] <unop> Gnea, I'm aware of what MTA, MUA and mail servers do, thanks :)
[14:26] <gilda> theres a huge difference between a mail server and a mail agent / client
[14:27] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: yes - the user agent takes care of forumulating and reading the emails, the mail server (aka MTA) takes care of actually transporting the email to/from the system itself
[14:27] <bascule> Nik0la0s: well if you had a domain and wanted inboxes for users you would need a mail server, however you need the right software to send mail, no recieve it
[14:27] <Gnea> unop :)
[14:28] <Nik0la0s> MTA stands for Mail Transfer Agent right?
[14:28] <bascule> yes
[14:28] <Nik0la0s> and an Agent == Clioent correct?
[14:28] <Tuari> alan here is my out put when i run that command http://pastebin.com/m64033db3
[14:28] <bascule> transfer/transport actually :)
[14:29] <Nik0la0s> so when you say mail agent il will be understanding mail cleint program right?
[14:29] <igors> Gnea, my usb camera is not mounting automatically: http://dpaste.com/32865/  :/
[14:29] <hagabaka> Nik0la0s: no
[14:29] <Nik0la0s> :(
[14:29] <Nik0la0s> hold!
[14:30] <bascule> Nik0la0s: no, a client is like outlook express or murr or pine, the agent can send the mail from these clients
[14:30] <alan`> dmraid....
[14:30] <Nik0la0s> MUA = Mail User Agent = Mail User Client = a mail application for reading mails like OE in windows
[14:30] <bascule> mutt not murr sheesh
[14:30] <alan`> Tuari: you have a raid array?
[14:30] <hagabaka> well "mail agent" maybe
[14:30] <hagabaka> not "mail transport agent"
[14:30] <Nik0la0s> so youa re telling me that an Agent != Client
[14:30] <unop> Nik0la0s, depending on how your email client is setup, it can send mail directly via a server (POP3, IMAP, etc) or use the local MTA (and that could be anything)
[14:30] <Nik0la0s> up until now i though it was identical
[14:31] <bascule> Nik0la0s: correct, there are many clients that all need an agent
[14:31] <igors> anybody knows? how can i mount my usb camera mass storage, its not mounting automatically  ( http://dpaste.com/32865/ )
[14:31] <Tuari> this system was not set by be me but i think it does have a raid
[14:31] <DaHood> hi all. I would like to get the source code of the cvs version of libsane that is used in Ubuntu 7.10
[14:31] <DaHood> where should i look?
[14:31] <Gnea> igors: then it's going to use libusb to read it, which means you need to use something like f-spot to interface with it - you can't mount it like you would a normal FS
[14:31] <unop> DaHood, google?
[14:31] <Pici> DaHood: apt-get source libsane
[14:31] <bascule> DaHood: at the repos apt-get source <package>
[14:31] <DaHood> unop, i would like a more specific answer
[14:32] <DaHood> a ok
[14:32] <Gnea> DaHood: freshmeat.net should point you to the homepage - just search for libsane
[14:32] <Nik0la0s> So an MUA example is mutt(which is cli mail cleint)
[14:33] <Nik0la0s> an MTA example is sendmalil
[14:33] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: yes.
[14:33] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: yup
[14:33] <igors> Gnea, f-spot can do that? is there a nice interface to do that?
[14:33] <bascule> uh-huh
[14:33] <hagabaka> and an MDA example?
[14:33] <Nik0la0s> outlook express is also an MUA for windows
[14:33] <unop> DaHood, if you want the CVS version of libsane, you should find out which CVS servers hold a copy of it, and i said google because thats where i'd look. and FYI, ubuntu's repos dont hold the CVS version
[14:33] <Nik0la0s> graphic one
[14:33] <Gnea> igors: f-spot *is* the interface ... just click on applications->graphics->f-spot
[14:33] <BizFatal> When I booted my laptop this morning my display is stuck zoomed in.  I can pan and scroll but not zoom out.  Any ideas?
[14:33] <Nik0la0s> ok what i udnerstand is this
[14:34] <Nik0la0s> MUA = mail clients (mutt, pine, xmail, kmail)
[14:34] <Nik0la0s> MTA = sendmails
[14:34] <bascule> BizFatal: it's called viewports, I can't remember how to disable/fix that, but thats where to look
[14:34] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: you are correct.
[14:34] <igors> Gnea, yeah..im on it..but i still didn't find how to "mount" my camera here :-)
[14:34] <Nik0la0s> but we have 3 semantic now
[14:34] <Nik0la0s> agents, clietns nad server
[14:34] <unop> hagabaka, MDA - something like postfix that recieves mail on your behalf and puts it in your mail directory
[14:34] <Nik0la0s> up until now i knew only client and server arch
[14:35] <igors> Gnea, "no cameras detected" :T
[14:35] <BizFatal> Bascule: thanks Ill start there
[14:35] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: 'server' is ambiguous - it means one thing in a sense, and something else in another
[14:35] <Gnea> igors: what camera is it?
[14:35] <Nik0la0s> an agent is a program that tranfer mail from an MUA to a Mail server?
[14:35] <frojnd> does anyone here uses torrentflux? I changed download directory and chmod -w it, but I'm still not able to see it ... any ideas why is that ?
[14:35] <igors> Gnea, sony, ive changeg to PTP mode...ok no
[14:35] <igors> *noe
[14:35] <unop> Nik0la0s, yes, thats how you could see it
[14:35] <igors> *now :P
[14:35] <Gnea> Nik0la0s: the MTA usually dumps the email in an mbox file and the MUA reads from that file
[14:35] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: check it out with Google (e.g. www.feep.net/sendmail/tutorial/intro/MUA-MTA-MDA.html). Also, it's only semantics. :)
[14:36] <unop> Gnea, so whats an MDA then? :)
[14:36] <Gnea> igors: are you plugging it into a usb hub or directly into the computer?
[14:36] <BenderUnit22> unop: that'd be procmail, formail and the like, no?
[14:36] <Gnea> unop: Mail Delivery Agent :)
[14:36] <unop> Gnea, i think i would say the MTA sends mail out for you, the MDA brings mail in
[14:36] <Gnea> like fetchmail
[14:37] <unop> BenderUnit22, aye
[14:37] <Nik0la0s>  so an MTU9sendmail, exim) is an application  that transfers mail from an MUA(client like mutt,pine,kmail)  to a Mail server
[14:37] <methods[laptop]> is there a place for me to get new version of evolution for ubuntu ?
[14:37] <hagabaka> :/
[14:37] <igors> Gnea, in usb, but now i've change in camera to PTP mode...and it found the camera... :-)
[14:37] <Gnea> igors: cool :)
[14:37] <hagabaka> that page says MTA brings all parts together?
[14:37] <bascule> Nik0la0s: sure, the mail server running on the recieving end and puts it in the users mailbox
[14:38] <Nik0la0s> in windows guys do we have mTA there as well?
[14:38] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: exchange
[14:38] <Nik0la0s> or the MUA there(which is OE) act as an MUA and MTA both?
[14:38] <bascule> Nik0la0s: think of MTA as a send only mail server
[14:39] <unop> Nik0la0s, yes, but in the windows world, you dont really want to know what an MUA,MTA,etc are, you just send mail :)
[14:39] <iKs> Hey !
[14:39] <BenderUnit22> !hi | iKs
[14:39] <ubotu> iKs: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[14:39] <iKs> Anyone knows how to write an ellipsis on a UK Default Keyboard Layout ? :D
[14:39] <Nik0la0s> unop, :)
[14:39] <ikonia> iKs: ellipsis ?
[14:39] <bascule> iKs: try altGr key
[14:39] <iKs> three dots
[14:39] <Nik0la0s> ima taking notes on verythign you say in a file called MUST_KNOW )
[14:39] <BenderUnit22> iKs: not me; I'd use gucharmap.
[14:39] <michaelpo> how do I md5sum the cd after burning the iso? what's the command? i know how to md5sum the downloaded iso... how do i msdsum the burnt cd?
[14:40] <iKs> Well normaly AltGr + several keys do that
[14:40] <ikonia> michaelpo: the command is md5sum
[14:40] <iKs> but strangely only those three dots are not working
[14:40] <iKs> nothing is outputed..
[14:40] <adac> hi. Is there any similar traffic shaping program for linux such as cfosspeed for windows?
[14:40] <iKs> I can use AltGr for anything else though
[14:40] <unop> Nik0la0s, outlook is an MUA, in most instances it is _not_ and MTA, it sends mail by connecting to a SMTP/IMAP server
[14:40] <iKs> (@łe¶ŧ←ŧ←↓→øþæßðŋðđħjĸłł«»¢”¢“n”µ)
[14:40] <sergei_> bn,gh,g,
[14:40] <bascule> michaelpo: with the disc in the drive, unmounted, md5sum /dev/cdrom , or /dev/dvd
[14:40] <sergei_> Hello
[14:40] <michaelpo> ikonia: md5sum /media/cdrom?
[14:41] <ikonia> michaelpo: no, you've downloaded the iso file and the md5sum file so it's md5sum myname.iso myname.md5
[14:41] <iKs> So.. no one ?
[14:41] <Nik0la0s> unop, yeah! that why OE in configuration its aks for incoming/outgoing mail server
[14:41] <ikonia> iKs: don't think it's default char on a uk keyboard
[14:41] <Nik0la0s> because outlokk can only read/write mail
[14:41] <Nik0la0s> not send it
[14:41] <bascule> michaelpo: no /media/cdrom is mounted, wrong sum
[14:41] <iKs> ikonia: I'm supposed to be able to output it with, for example, AltGr + ,
[14:41] <iKs> iKs: But it just doesn't work.
[14:42] <unop> Nik0la0s, well, no MUAs can send mail, its the job of the MTA to do that
[14:42] <bascule> michaelpo: has to be /dev
[14:42] <iKs> It worked on my French keyboard (another combination but whatever)
[14:42] <matzki> which password does passwd change if no username is given ?
[14:42] <iKs> so it seems to be a UK layout thingy
[14:42] <bascule> iKs: know its ascii code?
[14:42] <michaelpo> ikonia: how do i md5sum the cd after burning to check if the burn is correct or flawed....?
[14:42] <Kekcuk> http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139657817 Please Come And Vote For Me!!! (When you enter page, you auto... vote for me) (Thanks to all who voted!!)
[14:42] <unop> matzki, the one of $USER
[14:42] <Pici> matzki: The current user's password.
[14:42] <iKs> bascule: I can find it
[14:42] <iKs> bascule: hum, unicode code you mean ?
[14:42] <ikonia> michaelpo: ooh after, no idea
[14:42] <iKs> bascule: cause ascii doesn't have it of course... :)
[14:42] <ikonia> michaelpo: just use the "check cd" option on the boot menu
[14:42] <michaelpo> bascule: how do i md5sum the cd after burning to check if the burn is correct or flawed....?
[14:42] <bascule> michaelpo: I told you ...
[14:43] <tapas> i wonder how i can change the parameters pased to configure for a src package
[14:43] <bascule> michaelpo: boot it, there is a check on the boot options IIRC
[14:43] <tapas> the rules file is a bit confusing
[14:43] <Nik0la0s> unop, but all MUAs can at least connect to MTAs in order to be able to start sending the mail
[14:43] <bascule> iKs: well 256 ascii might
[14:43] <tapas> or alternatively how to pass an environment var to init :)
[14:43] <BenderUnit22> unop: not all MUA's. :)
[14:43] <iKs> bascule: hum I don't think so ;)
[14:43] <cosmodad> tapas: PARM=value ./configure (iirc)
[14:43] <BenderUnit22> unop: sry, not you.
[14:43] <iKs> bascule: lemme find the unicode code
[14:43] <michaelpo> what iirc?
[14:43] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: not all MUA's; mutt and mailx e.g. expect a local MTA by default.
[14:43] <unop> Nik0la0s, that depends on the MUA and how it is configured really
[14:43] <tapas> cosmodad: into what file?
[14:44] <michaelpo> bascule: what iirc?
[14:44] <iKs> # Unicode reference u2026
[14:44] <bascule> michaelpo: If I remeber correctly
[14:44] <tapas> cosmodad: debian/rules?
[14:44] <tapas> and where?
[14:44] <cosmodad> michaelpo: if I remember correctly.
[14:44] <cosmodad> tapas: that's how'd you call the rules script.
[14:44] <unop> Nik0la0s, like you can setup evolution on ubuntu to not use the local MTA but use a remote SMTP/IMAP server
[14:44] <cosmodad> tapas: err configure
[14:44] <tapas> cosmodad: i use dpkg-buildpackage
[14:44] <bascule> michaelpo: well look into binding a key combo for it in xmodmap, best I can do :))
[14:44] <cosmodad> tapas: what do you want to change?
[14:44] <michaelpo> how do i do a iirc command?
[14:44] <michaelpo> how do i do a xmodmap?
[14:44] <Nik0la0s> so the MTA in my case can be one of 2 things
[14:45] <cosmodad> michaelpo: there is none.
[14:45] <cosmodad> michaelpo: ...iirc command.
[14:45] <iKs> michaelpo: IRC != IIRC
[14:45] <tapas> cosmodad: i'm building libc from the source package and i want to add --disable-sanity-checks
[14:45] <bascule> michaelpo: that wasn't for you the xmodmap
[14:45] <tapas> no fear it's all in a virtual machine system
[14:45] <iKs> michaelpo: IRC = Internet Realy Chat, what you're using right now to chat
[14:45] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: what was it, actually, that you wanted to do? :)
[14:45] <iKs> michaelpo: IIRC is an abbreviation
[14:45] <bascule> iKs: sorry, did you see the xmodmap suggestion?
[14:45] <Nik0la0s> either o local mail server(local MTA) or a remote mail server(remote MTA like my isp's outgoing mail server ) is that correct?
[14:45] <iKs> bascule: hum nope, what is it ?
[14:45] <unop> Nik0la0s, correct
[14:45] <tapas> cosmodad: in the end i want to boot a 2.4.x kernel ;D
[14:46] <tapas> [legacy kernel modules we need to get to work]
[14:46] <bascule> iKs: The  xmodmap  program  is used to edit and display the keyboard modifier map
[14:46] <cosmodad> tapas: can't you just download a 2.4.x kernel?
[14:46] <Gnea> this bluetooth RAZR is nuts... it doesn't seem to want to bond right with minicom...
[14:46] <cosmodad> tapas: doesn't some older Ubuntu distro still provide that, I mean?
[14:46] <tapas> cosmodad: well, there's no 2.4.x kernel packages in current ubuntu
[14:46] <iKs> bascule: I'm looking at it right now, thanks ;)
[14:46] <unop> Nik0la0s, you can use any remote mail server as long as you are authenticated to it, like using your gmail credentials on smtp.gmail.com
[14:46] <bascule> iKs: welcome, I dunno how to do it, but i am sure it can
[14:47] <cosmodad> tapas: dapper still has kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 .
[14:47] <michaelpo> iKs: if i remember correctly
[14:47] <cosmodad> tapas: even edgy.
[14:47] <cosmodad> tapas: you better try that before you hussle with libc.
[14:47] <tapas> cosmodad: we will try that if we absolutely don't get it to ru non feisty
[14:47] <Nik0la0s> yeah unop
[14:47] <michaelpo> ok... thank you guys... i will just boot the cd before i delete the iso....
[14:47] <tapas> cosmodad: problem with that is increased maintenance work for our other software [for which we'll need two different builds then]
[14:47] <Nik0la0s> so  smtp.gmail.com is actually a remote outgoing mail server and also is called a remote MTA correct?
[14:47] <cosmodad> tapas: if there is another reason for you to rebuild libc: somewhere in the debian building process, ./configure must be called. You can hook up there.
[14:48] <bascule> tapas: changing libc may well be suicidal
[14:48] <Dukan> yes
[14:48] <tapas> cosmodad: yeah i'm not finding it
[14:48] <tapas> thus i awsk
[14:48] <tapas> ask :)
[14:48] <Dukan> bugs, very bugs
[14:48] <tapas> bascule: yeah :)
[14:48] <unop> Nik0la0s, right
[14:48] <tapas> bascule: it's in a virtual machine for testing purposes, so no harm done
[14:48] <cosmodad> tapas: you should be aware that upgrades to libc, e.g. security-wise, would kill your changes unless you hold them. Which isn't advised for libc either.
[14:49] <tapas> cosmodad: we won't touch the system except for updating our own software once it runs
[14:49] <Nik0la0s> Now the difference between MTA and Mail Server are that MTA used to just send mails while mail Server are only used to receive mails(the ones hat MTUs send to them)
[14:49] <tapas> porting of the kernel module to 2.6.x is underways
[14:49] <tapas> it just takes another while
[14:49] <bascule> k, it is a swine look at gentoo ebuilds or sourcemage spells, you will see the trickery required, nothing worse than a bash shell that segfaults every 5 seconds :)
[14:49] <bascule> tapas: ^
[14:50] <cosmodad> tapas: let me see if I can find the right spot for you.
[14:50] <tapas> cosmodad: thanks a bunch :)
[14:50] <Nik0la0s> Unop is my l.ast statement correct?
[14:50] <Nik0la0s> if is is then i understanded!
[14:50] <Nik0la0s> Now the difference between MTA and Mail Server are that MTA used to just send mails while mail Server are only used to receive mails(the ones hat MTUs send to them)
[14:50] <unop> Nik0la0s, correct, but technically an MTA is also a server because it can accept connections and send mail on your behalf
[14:51] <bascule> Nik0la0s: mail server send and recieve
[14:51] <shadukan> hi
[14:51] <shadukan> does anyone have any idea or has the tora compiled for Ubuntu
[14:51] <shadukan> with oracle support
[14:51] <dany> user and password default in a Squirrelmail ?
[14:51] <dany> :S
[14:52] <ikonia> dany: what ?
[14:52] <Nik0la0s> iam confuses now because
[14:52] <ikonia> shadukan: tora ?
[14:52] <Nik0la0s> bascule> Nik0la0s: think of MTA as a send only mail server
[14:52] <shadukan> i found some stuff on the net  but required earlier version of a library and didnt installed the deb succesfuuly
[14:52] <bascule> :)
[14:52] <shadukan> TOAD Oralce for linux
[14:52] <shadukan> :D
[14:52] <shadukan> sorry
[14:52] <ikonia> shadukan: toad is just an sql client as I recall
[14:52] <Nik0la0s> now my difficuly is to distingusih the ideas of Mail Server and MTUs
[14:53] <unop> Nik0la0s, an MTA is a mail-server that is only concerned with sending mail on your behalf, it cannot recieve mail for you
[14:53] <shadukan> yes ikonia but in ubuntu packages doesn't support connections to oracle databases...
[14:53] <mwe> I forgot the command to regenerate the usplash initramfs. could someone please refresh my memory?
[14:53] <bascule> Nik0la0s: I didn't say it was, just think of it that way, to me it becomes a server and not just an agent at the point it recieves mail ... :)
[14:53] <BenderUnit22> unop: hm? Either I've misunderstood for years, or this was an odd statement.
[14:53] <BenderUnit22> unop: surely you can configure your MTA to receive mail for you as well? :)
[14:53] <unop> mwe, update-initramfs -U ?
[14:53] <shadukan> i found some .deb packages over the net but didn't installed successfully
[14:53] <simion314> hi, i have a program that works fine but i need a launcher on desktop, i make this launcher and the program can't load somethings now(when i use the launcher) i do not know what happend, i belive it cpuld be permisions
[14:54] <mwe> unop: that's probably it, thanks.
[14:54] <jrib> simion314: what program?
[14:54] <unop> BenderUnit22, shhhh, let's not go into exceptions :p
[14:54] <SleepingSloth> simion314, were you running it as root from terminal?
[14:54] <Karti> shadukan: I know I have just turned up, but Oracle actually give away free their Express edition which is generally the same as the normal version but with a 4Gb database limit. With this you also get access to their 2 day administrator courses and full instructions ;)
[14:54] <Nik0la0s> unop, i see
[14:55] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: again, is this about understanding terminology, or fixing some problem at your end? Just curious.
[14:55] <unop> BenderUnit22, by definition - an MTA does not recieve mail, but there are plenty of MTAs that can do otherwise
[14:55] <Nik0la0s> but now i see youc all it a server because on order to be able to sent mails it has to accept connections for MUAs first :)
[14:55] <shadukan> ...i dont have time...i am on fire for a project... i followed instructions over ubuntu forums
[14:55] <Nik0la0s> tht bwhy youc alled it a server
[14:55] <tapas> never try to run virtualbox over a ssh tunnel
[14:55] <shadukan> about compilation but the damn thing failed the i did rules binary
[14:55] <tapas> it does weird things like not releasing the mouse and keyboard for 10 minutes ;)
[14:55] <bascule> unop: to me it stops being classed as an MTA if it recieves mail
[14:55] <simion314> simion314, is just a program, i double click it and it works, but if i double click the launcher i have that error
[14:55] <BenderUnit22> unop: hmz. Pardon my ignorance, but then what software *is* by definition meant to receive mail?
[14:55] <tapas> luckily ctrl-alt-f1 still works ;)
[14:55] <shadukan> ./rules binary ... it seems that didn't read a file within the directory
[14:56] <unop> bascule, right, and becomes more of a fully-fledged "mail-server", right? :)
[14:56] <bascule> yes
[14:56] <unop> BenderUnit22, the MDA
[14:56] <Nik0la0s> berderUnit22 : in order to fix the problem i needed to undestand thes ideas behind it first :)
[14:56] <shadukan> and i was wondering if someone here has it in precompiled .deb package for libsqn**7 version
[14:56] <cosmodad> tapas: I cannot find it at the moment, but I guess you need to adjust the configure target in the rules file.
[14:56] <cosmodad> tapas: I'm sure people at #debian know the details.
[14:56] <BenderUnit22> unop: ooh-wkay. nm then. :)
[14:56] <ikonia>  suggest we take the mail server discuss into -offtopic
[14:56] <BenderUnit22> :)
[14:56] <bascule> unop: but of course all full blown servers are also MTAs, they have to be :)
[14:56] <Nik0la0s> ok folks i ahve mutt which acts as myy MUA
[14:57] <Nik0la0s> now pleasse tell me the best cli MTA i can use
[14:57] <Nik0la0s> so mutt will conect to it to sent mail
[14:57] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: cli mta ?
[14:57] <BenderUnit22> Nik0la0s: if you just want to use mutt to get mail off your system, I'd suggest ssmtp. Simple setup.
[14:57] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: you've still not got it
[14:57] <bascule> Nik0la0s: there is no such thing, it's just a daemon
[14:57] <shadukan> so i make this public request if anyone has tora precompiled for the latest version of ubuntu
[14:57] <shadukan> (official)
[14:57] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: an MTA is a daemon that listens and deals with mail
[14:57] <unop> BenderUnit22, well, a fully-fledged mail server is an MTA and MDA - the MTA recieves mail from another MTA and forwards it to the MDA which then delivers the mail to the users inbox
[14:57] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: I suggest we take this to ubuntu-offtopic as explain mail daemon services isn't really ubuntu's issue
[14:57] <SleepingSloth> simion314,  if you want me to see your rely, put my name in the line (type 'slee' and then hit tab and it should autocomplete)
[14:57] <BenderUnit22> unop: that's as clear as I could've asked for; thx. :)
[14:57] <tapas> cosmodad: they told me the link to the maintainer manual and told me to troll myself to #ubuntu
[14:58] <tapas> nice as always
[14:58] <bascule> Nik0la0s: lol, you need a cli client that knows of your MTA daemon to send mail in the SMTP format to some server
[14:58] <Nik0la0s> sorry the expression cli mta was wrong
[14:58] <shadukan> (i have setup mutt with pop3 + imaps) it works great for me :D
[14:58] <Nik0la0s> of cousr mta is a service
[14:58] <Wrathtide> does anyone have any reccomendations on any particular usb wireless adaptor?
[14:58] <SleepingSloth> simion314, what are you running from the terminal (command-wise)?
[14:58] <tapas> cosmodad: thanks for looking though :)
[14:58] <cosmodad> tapas: heh. Never mention Ubuntu when you need help there. :)
[14:58] <Nik0la0s> the cli or graph is only applied to aplications like mutt or kmail
[14:58] <tapas> cosmodad: yeah i guess
[14:58] <cosmodad> tapas: but the thing I told you should be right.
[14:58] <bascule> Nik0la0s: sure
[14:58] <ikonia> Nik0la0s: lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[14:59] <cosmodad> tapas: looking at a rules file right now, it has a config.status target, which includes the configure parameters.
[14:59] <tapas> cosmodad: ok, will look into it.. i do know some make syntax, etc.. but this stuff is a bit convoluted
[14:59] <cosmodad> tapas: things seem to get more difficult with more up-to-date building system, however.
[14:59] <cosmodad> tapas: don't forget to make an entire system backup if you mock with libc.
[14:59] <tapas> cosmodad: ok, now i just have to wait until virtualbox frees my mouse pointer
[14:59] <cosmodad> tapas: especially if you are not an expert at these things.
[14:59] <tapas> cosmodad: yeah it's all in a virtual box
[14:59] <tapas> :)
[14:59] <simion314> SleepingSloth: why? i do not use terminal for that program, is just so deep in folders and i want it on my desktop, maybe i make a link to it
[14:59] <cosmodad> oh ok.
[14:59] <tapas> cosmodad: i'm not crazy :)
[14:59] <AdvoWork> hi there, any ideas what this is about: 550 relay not permitted (in reply to RCPT TO command). is that likely to be my server issue, or the server of the person im emailing?
[15:00] <tapas> just a little bit
[15:00] <cosmodad> tapas: heh :)
[15:00] <cosmodad> tapas: just enough to rebuild libc I suppose. ;)
[15:00] <tapas> exactly
[15:00] <tapas> :)
[15:00] <fevel> damn!
[15:00] <SleepingSloth> simion314,  if you run it from terminal, you should get output - that may give you a clue as to any problem
[15:01] <fevel> I just broke one of the pins on my laptops battery socket
[15:01] <cosmodad> tapas: out of curiosity, what does this configure switch do that eases maintenance?
[15:01] <bascule> AdvoWork: you are trying to mail an address that is not hosted on that server, it refuses to relay for spam purposes
[15:01] <tapas> damn i wonder how i can get my mouse and keyboard get without killing the process... grmbl [and yeah hitting the right ctrl doesn't do it]
[15:01] <fevel> does anyone know if its replacable?
[15:01] <tapas> cosmodad: it allows me to disable nptl
[15:01] <SleepingSloth> simion314, it seems likely your two launchers are running different commands though, if one works and the other doesn't...
[15:01] <fevel> *replaceable
[15:01] <tapas> cosmodad: 2.4.x kernels don't have nptl.. and since init complains about not being able to setup thread local storage upon booting
[15:02] <shkupi> vedo
[15:02] <tapas> cosmodad: and google hints into the direction that nptl is the culprit i want to turn it off
[15:02] <shkupi> jasum vedo
[15:02] <shkupi> koja sit
[15:02] <simion314> <SleepingSloth: thx, i will try that, i suspect that some stupid permisions and the program can't load something, thx for your time
[15:02] <tapas> cosmodad: i guess if there were a way to give init a env var which effectively disabled nptl it would work, too
[15:02] <tapas> cosmodad: but i don't know whether it's possible to pass environment vars to init
[15:03] <SleepingSloth> simion314, no worries - let us know if you have ay luck
[15:03] <SleepingSloth> *any
[15:03] <tapas> [kinda pointless anyways, since init provides the environment for all other processes]
[15:03] <AdvoWork> bascule but the thing is, we replied to their email?
[15:03] <cosmodad> tapas: not sure whether init knows env vars yet. Looking at initrd might help.
[15:03] <tapas> cosmodad: i boot without an initrd too ;)
[15:03] <cosmodad> tapas: that's probably easier to change than modifying libc.
[15:03] <bascule> AdvoWork: maybe a spoofed address
[15:04] <AdvoWork> even though its a genuine customer? that weve spoken to on the phone etc?
[15:04] <cosmodad> tapas: if NPTL could be disabled at boot-up, would that work for you too?
[15:04] <tapas> cosmodad: and even if i had an initrd i'm still not sure how to pass that env var to init [which uses libc which in turn actually uses the env var]
[15:04] <AdvoWork> just trying to rule out it being us :p
[15:04] <tapas> cosmodad: i guess it's worth a try
[15:04] <ssonko> i need instructions
[15:04] <bascule> AdvoWork: I am not a mail admin, just know a little of these things, also if the send address was not one of the servers own it would refuse for spam reasons too
[15:05] <ssonko> i need instructions
[15:05] <Ow1> hi. can you tell me who should i contact for a mailinglist request at lists.ubuntu.com
[15:05] <BenderUnit22> ssonko: instructions? Here you go: ask a better question. :)
[15:05] <Ow1> o need a list for romaniana ubuntu localization team
[15:05] <ikonia> Ow1: the mailing list owner ?
[15:05] <bascule> AdvoWork: or your mail domain is blacklisted by them ...
[15:06] <ikonia> Ow1: look on the ubuntu romainian loco site
[15:06] <Ow1> i have send an email but i got not response
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ssonko: How may we help you
[15:06] <ssonko> how can i reset my laptop bios password
[15:06] <Ow1> ikonia: i'm the coordinator or romaian  loco team
[15:06] <PriceChild> ssonko, pull the battery out
[15:06] <ikonia> ssonko: thats nothing to do with ubuntu, please contact your hardware vendor
[15:06] <bascule> ssonko: heh, you are in big trouble
[15:06] <jrib> Ow1: contact mailman
[15:06] <PriceChild> ssonko, not the big on, the small one inside
[15:06] <bascule> :)
[15:06] <Ow1> jrib: i did that. with no success
[15:06] <ssonko> i forgot my ibm thinkpad TP password
[15:06] <bascule> get your screwdrivers out ... :D
[15:07] <ubuntunut> ssonko: That's bios related, my friend. Not ubuntu specific.
[15:07] <jrib> Ow1: when did you send the email?
[15:07] <tapas> cosmodad: i just read that glibc2.7 doesn't build without nptl, since it doesn't have linuxthreads no more
[15:07] <tapas> cosmodad: i guess we're out of luck then anyway
[15:07] <ssonko> how do i  remote destop and ubuntu PC
[15:07] <ikonia> tapas: correct
[15:07] <cosmodad> ssonko: removing the battery for a while might help.
[15:07] <ubuntunut> ssonko: Look up vnc and ssh.
[15:07] <ikonia> tapas: linux-threads was obsoloete in 2.4 - removed in 2.7
[15:07] <Ow1> jrib: the last one was in 08 january 2008
[15:07] <ubuntunut> ssonko: both will do the job.
[15:08] <tapas> ikonia: so basically it's totally impossible to boot a 2.4.x kernel on a ubuntu system?
[15:08] <tapas> even with modifying libc
[15:08] <tapas> ?
[15:08] <Ow1> jrib: i send an email to mailman@lists
[15:08] <cosmodad> tapas: awww, ok. Too bad.
[15:08] <ikonia> tapas: you can only use a 2.4 kernel on legacy library dependant system
[15:08] <brontos> Good day all.
[15:08] <cosmodad> tapas: at least, it's now the programmer's problem. :)
[15:08] <Ow1> jrib: and a previously sent another one on 7th december 2007
[15:08] <tapas> cosmodad: :)
[15:08] <BenderUnit22> !hi | brontos
[15:08] <ubotu> brontos: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:08] <jrib> Ow1: erm, yeah, definitely should not take that long.  I had a response in about a week
[15:08] <bascule> tapas: is there no config option in the kernel to disable nptl, sure there is
[15:09] <Ow1> jrib: yes. and i don't know what happens
[15:09] <tapas> bascule: well, not in a 2.4.x kernel, since it doesn't have nptl to start with
[15:09] <brontos> I keep having an issue where it seems *some* of my usb ports stop working,  Anyway to restart them without rebooting?
[15:09] <tapas> bascule: which is the problem
[15:09] <tapas> ;)
[15:09] <bascule> tapas: well enable it with some patch, I am sure I have done this
[15:09] <tapas> hmm
[15:09] <tapas> an option would be an nptl backport to our 2.,4.x kernel
[15:09] <ikonia> bascule 2.6 is built on nptl only.
[15:09] <bascule> but it might have been new 2.6 that had a disable option ... hmmmm
[15:09] <ikonia> tapas that is not an option
[15:09] <ikonia> tapas: nptl will not work against 2.4
[15:10] <ikonia> bascule: no - 2.6 is ntpl only
[15:10] <tapas> ikonia: yeah, maybe someone has hacked nptl support into a 2.4.x kernel..
[15:10] <StrangeCharm_> when i use the alternate installation disk, and put root on a raid, encrypted container, lvm, or combination of these, the system won't boot. is this a known bug, am i doing something wrong, or is it something else?
[15:10] <tapas> then nptl luibc would work against it
[15:10] <ikonia> tapas: there is no hack
[15:10] <tapas> too bad :(
[15:10]  * bascule rakes through some old build scripts
[15:11] <Leo1989> Hi all. I'm using Geany as C++ compiler. How can I disable a stupid warning about "...unused variable". I really hate this feature :)
[15:11] <ikonia> Leo1989: never used geany
[15:11] <Leo1989> ikonia: C::B does the same
[15:12] <amitprakash> hi.. i have a wired internet connection on system A.. now i want to connect A to another system B using ad-hoc and then use ICS to share the internet connecton.. how do i do this?
[15:12] <tapas> ok, then a different question..
[15:12] <Ow1> does anyone know what should i do if i didn't got any response from mailman@lists.ubuntu ?
[15:13] <tapas> we build all our custom software from ground up on a recent ubuntu system.. the software is ok on our current debian 2.4.x system except for some libc dependency stuff
[15:13] <ubuntunut> Owl: Wait until you do...?
[15:13] <jrib> Ow1: let me check something for you
[15:13] <tapas> [it expects a GLIBC_2.x symbol which isn't there]
[15:13] <Ow1> jrib: thaks!
[15:13] <tapas> i wodner whether one can build software in a way that this missing symbol is not a problem
[15:13] <StrangeCharm_> when i use the alternate installation disk, and put root on a raid, encrypted container, lvm, or combination of these, the system won't boot. is this a known bug, am i doing something wrong, or is it something else?
[15:13] <curkill> can anyone here help me with python
[15:14] <ubuntunut> curkill: try #python
[15:14] <Ow1> jrib: i was requesting ubuntu-l10n-ro
[15:14] <void^> Leo1989: doesn't geany just run gcc/g++? make sure it doesn't use -Wall or -Wunused/-Wunused-variable
[15:15] <bascule> tapas: there is a redhat patch for 2.4 nptl
[15:15] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: what does it say at boot-up?
[15:15] <Leo1989> void^: yes it dies, thx, I think it will help
[15:15] <Leo1989> does
[15:16] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: 'operating system not found'
[15:16] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: hmm, ok. I have never done RAID, sorry.
[15:17] <bascule> i remember i had acx100 card that wouldn't work in 2.6 and had nptl built glibc, I am sure I had a kernel that ran
[15:17] <curkill> ubuntunut: it says i need to be identefied to join
[15:17] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: how about either of the other two?
[15:17] <jrib> Ow1: may I pm?
[15:18] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: I recently set up an lvm/dm-crypt system, but didn't use the installer since it would provide less-safe algos only.
[15:18] <Ow1> jrib: sure, i should be registered
[15:18] <Starnestommy> it's dependent on the sender being registered, not the recipient
[15:18] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: algos?
[15:18] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: algorithms used by dm-crypt.
[15:18] <ubuntunut> curkill: Then register yoru nick and join. No one will (or should) help you here with python which is not ubuntu related.
[15:19] <nownot> i get this error when trying to make make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/build: rt73.ko failed to build! any help?
[15:19] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: 2.6.22 can do aes-lrw, but the installer didn't offer it.
[15:19] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: aes-lrw is preferred about the default aes-whatever.
[15:19] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: That's all I can tell you since I only ran into dm-crypt specific mount problems, nothing like "OS not found".
[15:19] <bascule> nownot: do you need it? If not don't build it, it needs firmware most likely
[15:19] <curkill> ubuntunut: ok thanks
[15:19] <typochur> hi guys
[15:19] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: does grub load?
[15:20] <nownot> bascule: what do you mean if need it? you talking about make?
[15:20] <bascule> nownot: that driver
[15:20] <nownot> bascule: yeah i need it its for my wireless card
[15:21] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: no, grub doesn't. it seems like the bios can't find the /boot. but it can't be a bios error because the exact same thing happens on completely different machines
[15:21] <brontos> if I unplug my mouse from usb and plug it in the usb stops working.  any way to reset the usb without rebooting?
[15:21] <bascule> nownot: it needs firmware to build at a guess, not sure what the procedure is check <kernel dir>/Documentation
[15:21] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: you could try re-installing grub.
[15:21] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: when I installed, grub installation failed, but I was given a note about this.
[15:21] <typochur> I'm using nvidia-driver and TwinView (two displays: dfp intern, crt extern) and I want to rotate the extern display but somehow xrandr -o left does not work.
[15:22] <bascule> nownot: it could of course just be a build bug ... :)
[15:22] <typochur> What is the option to insert in xorg.conf to permanently rotate a display?
[15:22] <nownot> i get this error when trying to make make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/build: rt73.ko failed to build! any help?
[15:22] <cizarro> question: how do I change the system default background image in ubuntu? (i.e., when a new user logs in, I want their background to be different from the default one).
[15:22] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: there's a good page on grub installation, but it's in German only. If you don't mind, I can give it to you.
[15:22] <mcisbackuk> Hi all. How do I remove every package that kubuntu-desktop installed? I still got loads of extra apps in my GNOME list, how do I get rid?
[15:23] <mcisbackuk> PS I installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu
[15:23] <BenderUnit22> mcisbackuk: start with kdelibs?
[15:23] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: i didn't get an indication, but then, i did go off and do other things while it was installing, only coming back at the end. unfortunately, my german is not so hot, and i think that a mediocre grub page would be better than a googletrans of a good page, but i'm willing to take a look anyway
[15:24] <mcisbackuk> BenderUnit22: What I mean is, is there any way I can find out what packages it DOES install, like from in Synaptic or something so I can make sure I remove them with apt-get remove
[15:24] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: ok, here you go: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB
[15:24] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: I'm sure google offers some good English pages too.
[15:24] <BenderUnit22> mcisbackuk: you could check out what it pulls in with apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop?
[15:25] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: google knows all that humans know
[15:25] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: I could explain to you the vitals, but again I have no clue about raid and wouldn't wanna wreck your system more than it is already.
[15:25] <cosmodad> StrangeCharm_: unfortunately, it's sometimes unwilling to give that information to you. ;)
[15:26] <t47984358> can someone plz tell me how to install open ssl?
[15:26] <StrangeCharm_> cosmodad: no, i find google to be very helpful, its just the internet tht can be more annoying
[15:26] <ikonia> t47984358: it's already installed
[15:27] <ubuntunut> t47984358: Uh... sudo aptitude install openssl doesn't work?]
[15:27] <t47984358> well, if i try to install hydra, a password cracker - the install process tells me that open ssl cant be found
[15:27] <t47984358> and help?
[15:27] <t47984358> i try
[15:27] <BenderUnit22> t47984358: you need libssl-dev.
[15:28] <BenderUnit22> t47984358: (assuming you're installing from source)
[15:28] <d1nker> what is the maximum amount of memory Ubuntu Server x86 will handle?
[15:28] <bascule> t47984358: you compiling hydra?
[15:28] <t47984358> ty
[15:28] <bascule> d1nker: 64GB afaik
[15:28] <t47984358> how many apt get, apt install, aptitude commands are there? And when do i use which? Is it like kernel components, classes and user applications?
[15:29] <d1nker> gitty!
[15:29] <ikonia> t47984358: how are you installing hydra
[15:29] <t47984358> i just untared and made it
[15:29] <ikonia> d1nker: I think it's less
[15:29] <wirechief4> identify silvermachine4
[15:30] <iptablesQuery> Does anyone know why there is no iptables init script in ubuntu? Lots of people seem to be rolling their own, which seems silly
[15:30] <Ballena> what does the shortening "rc" stand for? like in ".bashrc"?
[15:30] <ikonia> Ballena: just a name
[15:30] <cizarro> Ballena, resource configuration, aka .conf
[15:30] <ikonia> iptablesQuery: differnet people set it up different
[15:30] <Ballena> ok, ic
[15:31] <BenderUnit22> Ballena: Ballena http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/what-does-rc-stand-for-31758/?highlight=stand
[15:31] <ikonia> BenderUnit22: good form
[15:31] <Ballena> BenderUnit22:  thanks
[15:31] <gilda> why does the live cd not detect my hard drive
[15:31] <BenderUnit22> ikonia: sorry?
[15:31] <t47984358> here is the err:
[15:31] <t47984358> hydra-sip.c:4:25: Fehler: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory
[15:31] <t47984358> hydra-sip.c:5:25: Fehler: openssl/err.h: No such file or directory
[15:31] <t47984358> hydra-sip.c:6:25: Fehler: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory
[15:31] <ikonia> BenderUnit22: good form, finding that url
[15:31] <BenderUnit22> Oh. *blush* Thx. :)
[15:31] <BenderUnit22> t47984358: did you install libssl-dev?
[15:32] <ikonia> t47984358: speak to the package maintainer, I don't feel it apporpriate to discuss building password cracking tools
[15:32] <bkar> gilda-> fdisk -l   and see if it detects it
[15:32] <t47984358> ok
[15:32] <gilda> it doesnt
[15:32] <LjL> cizarro, Ballena: or runtime configuration? google gives both
[15:33] <cizarro> LjL, /me shrugs. I've always thought it's resource :-)
[15:33] <gilda> bkar: it doesnt at all
[15:33] <bkar> gilda-> is the hard driver working?
[15:33] <iptablesQuery> ikonia: I guess so, but that is true for anything, a default script would still be useful
[15:34] <bkar> gilda-> is the hard drive working rather
[15:34] <gilda> yes the hard drive works its running an alternate linux distro - with ext 2
[15:34] <gilda> and ext3
[15:34] <ikonia> iptablesQuery not really, easy to right one
[15:34] <ikonia> iptablesQuery: firewalling is very personal
[15:34] <LjL> cizarro: no i don't know really, just saying google gives runtime too
[15:34] <Ballena> apparently rc means "runcom" run command
[15:35] <bkar> gilda-> no response at all when you do fdisk -l
[15:35] <Incompetnce> Hi im trying to put a new file system on my USB stick. i just cant remember the command to find out what the device is called...
[15:35] <gilda> bkar: nothing
[15:35] <Gamekiller> i for got what the command to change htpasswd.user is to change a password on term any help ?
[15:35] <gilda> bkar: just brings me back to root prompt
[15:36] <bkar> gilda  dmesg | grep  sd   or maybe hd
[15:36] <iptablesQuery> ikonia: the iptables setup itself varies, but the requirement to start iptables with a saved ruleset is pretty much universal
[15:36] <bkar> Incompetnce-> mount
[15:37] <Incompetnce> thanks bkar
[15:37] <iptablesQuery> ikonia: Having everyone do it themselves is just a recipe for people getting it wrong in different random ways :)
[15:37] <gilda> bkar:  grepping sd - nothing grepping hd- just my dvd drive
[15:37] <iptablesQuery> especially since lots of people seem to be just using the same slightly odd script from gentoo, which messes up if it is stopped twice
[15:37] <ikonia> iptablesQuery truth be told, people hand scripting firewall rules in iptables should be able to write a simple script - or it's just disaster any way. ubuntu includes firestarter for people with lesser requirements
[15:38] <bkar> gilda-> i dont know, maybe reboot, make sure it is active in the bios? it should have been detected
[15:38] <iptablesQuery> ikonia: I suppose, but its just another thing to look at, plus I find iptables a lot more logical than bash scripts ;)
[15:38] <bkar> !sound
[15:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:38] <gilda> bkar: it is active in the bios - it works perfectly - i am on the live cd multiple attempts no change
[15:38] <ikonia> iptablesQuery: I'm making a generic statment, not aimed at you personally
[15:39] <amitprakash> hi.. i have a wired internet connection on system A.. now i want to connect A to another system B using ad-hoc and then use ICS to share the internet connecton.. how do i do this?
[15:39] <Gamekiller> i found the answer to my own quetion
[15:39] <bkar> gilda i dont know, reboot and try liveCD again
[15:39] <iptablesQuery> iptablesQuery: Yup I'm not taking offence, just saying that the startup script should be pretty standard so it would be nicer at least to have an example one (like the one in debian, at least in sarge)
[15:40] <gilda> bkar: ive rebooted multiple times checked the md5sum of my iso to make sure non corrupted and still no go
[15:41] <Niklas> hello
[15:42] <gilda> the only thing i can think that may be related is that lspci | grep IDE
[15:42] <gilda> 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP65 IDE (rev a1)
[15:42] <gilda> 00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP65 SATA Controller (rev a3)
[15:43] <Niklas> Has anybody successfully build and installed ImageMagick 6.3.x on gutsy using checkinstall?
[15:43] <bkar> gilda oh sata controller, i think there was an issue of delayed detection, i forgot what the resolution is though
[15:44] <MGalaxy> SCIM & SKIM dont work in Firefox & Openoffice @ Kubuntu 7.10, any solution?
[15:44] <gilda> bkar: ya im looking for a workaround cuz im kinda sol at the moment - was testing distros and couldnt stand the one installed =p
[15:48] <bkar> gilda which liveCD are you using to install?
[15:48] <gilda> 7.10
[15:49] <gilda> the regular ubuntu one - as i thought the xubuntu was the cause of me issue
[15:49] <gilda> lol guess not
[15:52] <cab46> i'm looking for a software similar to abobe fireworks , for ubuntu. any suggestion ?
[15:52] <Ballena> how do I reload bash without rebooting the system?
[15:53] <iptablesQuery> ikonia: Well thanks for help, I'll go write a script :)
[15:53] <ikonia> iptablesQuery: maybe submit it for inclusion in to hardy +1
[15:53] <jeffMASTERflex> cab46: inkscape
[15:53] <Freakingme> I want to make a visual representation of a database (@ ubuntu), I tried dia and glom already, but these are buggy/not meant for me. What would you advise me?
[15:53] <bkar> Ballena-> you may go to init level 1 and then back to 2
[15:54] <Niklas> Ballena: depends of what you want to do...   what is it?
[15:54] <AdvoWork> cab46 CinePaint,Gimp,Inkscape perhaps
[15:54] <Ballena> bkar: how?
[15:54] <bkar> Ballena-> sudo telinit 1
[15:54] <gilda> inkscape will cover the vector based gimp will cover photoshop like stuff but to be as all inclusive as fireworks good luck
[15:54] <Ballena> I have mad som chnages in .bashrc and want bash to be reloaded
[15:55] <Ballena> so they will take afffect
[15:55] <jeffMASTERflex> cab46: gilda is right. you will have to compromise between inkscape and gimp
[15:55] <bkar> Ballena-> oh then you just have to log out, no need to boot or go to another level
[15:56] <Ballena> so I do have to log out :/
[15:56] <gilda> cab46: it depends on what aspects of fireworks you are looking for
[15:56] <bkar> Ballena-> or source your bashrc
[15:57] <Niklas> Ballena: or re-enter "bash" in bash
[15:57] <Ballena> bkar:  how do I 'source' it?
[15:57] <Ballena> ok
[15:57] <MacQuassel> . .bashrc
[15:58] <Stephaninos>  hi
[15:58] <Stephaninos>  can anybody help me?
[15:58] <Stephaninos>  have a problem with conky being on top of all my windows
[15:58] <MacQuassel> and I'd rather exec bash then just start another one
[15:58] <green-_> anyone know why apt is asking for the ubuntu cd when trying to install alien?
[15:58] <Pici> ls
[15:58] <green-_> and is that really the recommended way to install an rpm under ubuntu?
[15:59] <Kaja> You have the CD in your sources.list, green-_
[15:59] <Niklas> green-_: your ubuntu installcd is in your sources.list
[15:59] <LjL> green-_: there is no recommended way to install an rpm under ubuntu, since it's definitely NOT recommended to install rpm's under ubuntu
[15:59] <jeffMASTERflex> green-_: installing rpms are recommended. but if you must, alien is what you should use. if you can, compile the source instead
[15:59] <jeffMASTERflex> green-_: sorry i meant NOT recommended
[15:59] <green-_> LjL: it's a SRPM
[16:00] <green-_> i just need to get the source so I can compile, and the source is apparently only available via SRPM
[16:00] <LjL> green-_: not very different
[16:00] <green-_> LjL: meaning?
[16:00] <LjL> green-_: well, get the srpm but compile it manually is probably the best thing to do. and compile it *to install into /usr/local or /opt*, never into /usr
[16:01] <amitprakash> hi.. i have a wired internet connection on system A.. now i want to connect A to another system B using ad-hoc and then use ICS to share the internet connecton.. how do i do this?????
[16:01] <dan-g> Hi all - I'm having problems with Compiz. It's not affecting the menu bar, and after installing ccsm I now sometimes get a GNOME error saying there was an error starting the Daemon.
[16:01] <LjL> green-_: meaning that installing a binary rpm is not really different from telling rpm to compile a source one and then install the resulting binary
[16:01] <LjL> so, both as far as possible from "recommended"
[16:01] <LjL> green-_: what is it that you need to install anyway?
[16:01] <green-_> i'd certainly prefer NOT to compile it, but as there no alternative ....
[16:02] <green-_> LjL: avant window navigator
[16:02] <C10uD> hi is there any arabic in here?
[16:03] <Niklas> green-_: you can add "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy avant-window-navigator
[16:03] <Niklas> to your sources.list
[16:03] <dreamnid> damn, Niklas beat me to it
[16:03] <Niklas> dreamnid: :)
[16:03] <dissident> can someone help me, every  boots fcheck fails with error 8 (it says so) so i have to do control D to start up but then my interns hd is not mounted (second one with only data)
[16:03] <dissident> every 3 boots i mean
[16:03] <cdavis_> what is the package name for the mysql dev files
[16:04] <LjL> green-_, avant is in Hardy, first thing to try would be to backport that (although avant is so popular that i suspect that if it compiled out of the box, someone would have made a backport already)
[16:04] <dissident> it seems to be my my sata drive, but i only have this problem with ubuntu
[16:04] <LjL> !ar | C10uD
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <LjL> !sa | C10uD
[16:04] <ubotu> C10uD: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[16:05] <C10uD> thanks LjL
[16:05] <C10uD> :O
[16:05] <SweMac> Having problems encoding avi to flv cant choose mp3 codec, have tried to find a way to install some kind of mp3 codec on my ubuntu server (6.10) for a couple of days
[16:05] <C10uD> you are l33t indeed!!!
[16:05] <C10uD> :D
[16:05] <SweMac> Anyone with a tip?
[16:06] <LjL> green-_: there is also a package (version 0.2.1) at getdeb.net, although getdeb is not something i generally recommend too much
[16:06] <LjL> (broken packages were not unusual last time i checked)
[16:07] <MeNoS> LjL , are there any java for architecture PPC64 ??
[16:07] <MeNoS> because i mistakenly installed the PPC32 bits
[16:07] <green-_> LjL: well, what's likely my better route - SRPM or getdeb.net? :)
[16:07] <LjL> MeNoS: they're two different architectures?
[16:08] <LjL> green-_, do try compiling the Hardy package before trying either of those
[16:08] <jeffMASTERflex> green-_: do with getdeb, they make pretty stable debs in my experience
[16:08] <dreamnid> green-_: Nik0la0s already gave you the deb repository for AWN
[16:08] <MeNoS> are they ??
[16:08] <green-_> ah, missed that
[16:08] <dreamnid> green-_ : or rather Niklas
[16:09] <MeNoS> because i installed 32bit PPC of java, install was succesful but the java doesn't work
[16:09] <Niklas> dreamnid: sloppy fingers? *G*
[16:09] <LjL> MeNoS, did you install it from medibuntu (which seems to work today)?
[16:09] <MeNoS> it worked for you ?
[16:09] <dreamnid> Niklas: No, made a guess on which nik**** it was based off the auto-complete :-P
[16:09] <MeNoS> sure i wil check
[16:09] <dreamnid> Niklas: sorry :-P
[16:10] <Hellow> Hello everyone, i am having trouble letting people connect to my Netrek game server, the client apps are supposed to connect to port 2592 but they cant find the right ip address to connect to
[16:10] <LjL> MeNoS, "apt-get update" now works fine for me
[16:10] <MeNoS> k
[16:10] <Hellow> There is 2 ip addresses under Network Tools for my connection, one just says IP the other says Broadcast
[16:10] <Wrathtide> what is the command to view connections made?
[16:10] <Niklas> dreamnid: hehe, np
[16:11] <Niklas> ImageMagick 6.3.x as deb, anyone?
[16:11] <MeNoS> didn't worked for me , LjL
[16:11] <green-_> Niklas:  i get a 404 on that source
[16:12] <green-_> although i can hit it from browser
[16:12] <angah> Is there any s/w that can take shot while using ubuntu? like make movie?
[16:12] <green-_> hmmm
[16:12] <green-_> ah nm
[16:12] <LjL> MeNoS: says what?
[16:12] <Niklas> green-_: uh? wait a sec
[16:12] <jeffMASTERflex> angah: istanbul
[16:12] <green-_> Niklas: it's correct.. though now apt is giving me a GPG error
[16:12] <Hellow>  i am having trouble letting people connect to my Netrek game server, the client apps are supposed to connect to port 2592 but they cant find the right ip address to connect to. There is two ip addresses in Network Tools, one is under IP the other is under Broadcast
[16:12] <MeNoS> it didn't worked for me
[16:13] <angah> thanks
[16:13] <Wrathtide> what is the equivalent of "ipconfig" in the terminal?
[16:13] <Niklas> green-_: download this http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/reacocard.asc and use sudo apt-key on it
[16:13] <jeffMASTERflex> angah: xvidcap also works
[16:13] <LjL> !doesn't work | MeNoS
[16:13] <ubotu> MeNoS: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[16:14] <Hellow> i am having trouble letting people connect to my Netrek game server, the client apps are supposed to connect to port 2592 but they cant find the right ip address to connect to. There is two ip addresses in Network Tools, one is under IP the other is under Broadcast
[16:14] <MeNoS> LjL, what is the site where i can paste my sources.list again ??
[16:14] <green-_> Niklas: excellent, thanks.
[16:14] <MeNoS> i will show you
[16:14] <Hellow> i need to know how to configure my network to allow connections on the right ip and under the right port
[16:14] <Niklas> green-_: Ur welcome
[16:15] <unagi> anyone know the window decorator for kde?
[16:15] <tapas> bascule: yeah i read about that too
[16:15] <tapas> did you locate it [red hat patch nptl 2.4.x]
[16:16] <LjL> !paste > MeNoS    (MeNoS, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:16] <LjL> !topic > MeNoS    (MeNoS, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:16] <green-_> hmm.. now to figure out why AWN prefs won't even come up
[16:16] <green-_> Niklas: you using awn?
[16:16] <tapas> bascule: i guess it'll apply on red hat kernels only anyways.. still searching though
[16:16] <Niklas> green-_: yep
[16:17] <green-_> i just logged in/out of X and tried bringing up the AWN prefs
[16:17] <green-_> but nothing comes up... anything else I need to do?
[16:17] <chronic1> is this is proper channel to ask a fairly specific question about ubuntu...or is there a developer channel that would be more appropriate
[16:17] <Niklas> green-_: you must click on the outer corner
[16:17] <MeNoS> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53862/
[16:18] <green-_> Niklas: heh, of what?
[16:18] <Niklas> green-_: or run "awn-manager" from a terminal and look on the output
[16:18] <Niklas> green-_: did you start awn yet?
[16:18] <LjL> MeNoS, medibuntu *is* working, it's other repositories that are not (the source ones - it's probably they are on a different server). but they shouldn't really be needed
[16:19] <green-_> Niklas: i guess not? start it from where?
[16:19] <Niklas> green-_: alt+f2, enter avant-window-navigator
[16:19] <amitprakash> hi.. i have a wired internet connection on system A.. now i want to connect A to another system B using ad-hoc and then use ICS to share the internet connecton.. how do i do this?????
[16:19] <srijan> hello can I ask a question about Amarok
[16:19] <MeNoS> yea true
[16:19] <Niklas> green-_: later you can add it to your (gnome)session
[16:19] <jeffMASTERflex> srijan: ask
[16:19] <green-_> ah, there we go :)
[16:19] <SweMac> Having problems using mp3 audiocodec in ffmpeg, tip?
[16:19] <srijan> Is there any equlizer preset available for Amarok?
[16:20] <jeffMASTERflex> srijan: yes, should be under tools
[16:20] <green-_> what is this stupid thing compiz is doing where it makes a window like 10% opaque when i start another app
[16:20] <green-_> it's not focus trail, it is something else
[16:20] <green-_> because it's only for a few seconds
[16:21] <srijan> Thanks very much Jeff :)
[16:21] <Niklas> green-_: maybe opacify? but I'm not sure
[16:21] <jeffMASTERflex> srijan: np
[16:21] <brobostigon> whem you compile, make install, some software, is there also a command to deinstall/remove ??
[16:22] <jeffMASTERflex> brobostigon: make uninstall
[16:22] <Pici> brobostigon: If the developer has defined the make target, its usually make uninstall or make remove.
[16:22] <LjL> brobostigon: sometimes there is "make uninstall", but generally speaking you're on your own.
[16:22] <LjL> brobostigon: which is one of the reasons using ubuntu packages is much recommended over compiling
[16:22]  * Niklas takes a big hammer and begins slashing imagemagick
[16:22] <ikonia> Niklas: what is the problem with image magik ?
[16:22] <srijan> Now about Ubuntu Auto Update..I'm using version 7.10 Edubuntu. When I runthe system update after being notified, I find one "mjpegtools shown under Other Updates, but I can not select it! Why?
[16:22] <jeffMASTERflex> brobostigon: i always install bastardized debs with checkinstall so i don't run into those problems
[16:23] <brobostigon> so its either make uninstall or make remove,correct,
[16:23] <LjL> MeNoS: have you come across this page? http://psubuntu.com/2007/02/13/howto-enable-java-for-firefox/ - it's about the PS3, which uses PPC 64-bit, so it might apply to your machine
[16:23] <adelie> hello, been reading some articles about swappiness. it sounds like a good swappiness should be inverse to ram. 256mb ram, swappiness of 100 is going to have best performance, but if you have 2-4gb ram, swappiness of 10-20 will yeild best performance. Anyone else have anecdotal experience to share?
[16:23] <Niklas> ikonia: I want to install version 6.3 as a deb (without make install), but libtool does not comply..
[16:23] <ikonia> Niklas: where is that deb coming from ?
[16:23] <LjL> brobostigon: it's either one of those, or remove each file manually.
[16:24] <Niklas> ikonia: by me. but there is no deb yet, because checkinstall quits before completing the job
[16:24] <SweMac> Having problems using mp3 audiocodec in ffmpeg, tip?
[16:25] <Seveas> Niklas, checkinstall is evil :)
[16:25] <adelie> 64 bit ppc ??? isn't that kind of like a stone wheel with spinners?
[16:25] <Niklas> ikonia: Yeh, I know. I took the tbz2 from the IM website, ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall. and it does not find the files it should install (/usr/bin/install: setting permissions for `/usr/lib/libMagick.so.10.0.10': No such file or directory)
[16:25] <jeffMASTERflex> Seveas: it's useful for small programs. debhelper is nice though
[16:25] <Niklas> ikonia: but what should I do? make install into /usr? :/
[16:26] <ikonia> set the --prefix option
[16:26] <Seveas> jeffMASTERflex, it's not useful for small programs either, it's the wrong way of making packages
[16:26] <LjL> adelie: are you somehow under the impression that PPC is an "inferior" architecture?
[16:26] <Niklas> ikonia: yes, I could. but I will have to install (and update ) it on 8 servers at least
[16:26] <rico> hey guys. my mic doesn't work (both internal and external). it used to work before. where do I start looking for what's wrong?
[16:26] <ikonia> Niklas: no, just tar it up and drop it in if you don't want to use the package manager
[16:26] <LjL> Seveas, it's the only thing around that lets you do a "make install" with some guarantee that you'll be able to revert it - all its problems notwithstanding
[16:27] <adelie> LjL: ok, MIPS ppc was GREAT! and I miss the hell out out of it. I think it is a fabulous architecture that is no longer supported in any meaningful way.
[16:27] <adelie> LjL: to a great disappointment
[16:27] <Niklas> ikonia: I want to use the package manager. but imagemagick is freaking old in ubuntu and debian with no sign of change..
[16:27] <LjL> adelie: eh? PPC here = PowerPC, not PocketPC
[16:28] <adelie> yes, power pc
[16:28] <srijan> Could some one help me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=667500?
[16:28] <LjL> adelie: then i don't know what MIPS PPC is
[16:29] <ronino> hi
[16:29] <Seveas> hi ronino
[16:29] <karol> hi guys U by chance know any polish ubuntu channel?
[16:29] <ronino> I installed Xen and whenever I start a domU I only get half a console, the bottom half stays black, how to fix it?
[16:29] <LjL> !pl | karol
[16:29] <Seveas> !pl | karol
[16:29] <ubotu> karol: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[16:29] <avery> hello pipol
[16:29] <karol> thx a lot
[16:30] <adelie> the first generation of power PC for mac were made by MIPS using the MIPS arc. Later, because intel convinced everyone it was all about megahertz, they switched to motarola BIPS arc which was "faster" (only looking at the clock), but is very ineffecient by comparison
[16:31] <Niklas> so I will have to do it the hard way.. thx anyway ikonia
[16:31] <adelie> karol: you looking for guides for customizing gnome interface?
[16:33] <wimpies> for an Intel 64 bit install, do I use the packages marked as amd64 ?
[16:33] <adelie> wimpies: yes
[16:33] <ikonia> wimpies: yup
[16:33] <wimpies> Thx
[16:33] <adelie> wimpies: assuming you used the 64bit base install
[16:34] <ZioPippo> hello to all. somebody have problem with mysql?
[16:34] <wimpies> also, is it already stable enough to install hardy ?
[16:34] <adelie> wimpies: no
[16:35] <wimpies> ok gutsy it is then ...
[16:35] <adelie> wimpies: ubuntu web site strongly recommends against "upgrading" until the release if you value your computer working on a regular basis, or if you need to get to your data all the time
[16:36] <wimpies> adelie : it is a fresh  install
[16:36] <softwork> in ubuntu i write "init 3" but dont exit graphic mode, how i do?
[16:36] <softwork> !init3
[16:36] <amitprakash> hi.. i have a wired internet connection on system A.. now i want to connect A to another system B using ad-hoc and then use ICS to share the internet connecton.. how do i do this?????
[16:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:37] <softwork> !textmode
[16:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about textmode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:37] <adelie> wimpies: if you want to have a good experience, go with a fresh gutsy install
[16:37] <softwork> !runlevel
[16:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:37] <adelie> !hardy
[16:37] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:38] <adelie> any experience here with swappiness?
[16:38] <wimpies> adelie : also, should I take the desktop or alternate image ? What is the difference ?
[16:39] <minimalt> alguien habla español aca?
[16:39] <Pici> !es | minimalt
[16:39] <ubotu> minimalt: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:39] <adac2> how can i set the verbose mode one a usplash theme?
[16:41] <adelie> wimpies: the desktop / live cd / dvd is very pretty and gives you a full working system... if the image on the disc works with your system. it is a full install on a CD that is mostly compatible. alternate is just packages, and only has a terminal mode install (no live desktop) and configures everything manually rather than just copying a working system to your hard drive. in my personal experience, alternate cd always works, IF it is going to work at all, 
[16:41] <th0r> adac2 it is done in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:41] <MeNoS> how do i install from a tgz file ?
[16:42] <Panoramixgr> Hi i am a new ubuntu user\
[16:42] <tclineks_> anyone have a tip on how i can limit bandwidth of an individual process/(or outoing port)?
[16:42] <adac2> th0r: so i just remove the ro quiet splash
[16:43] <adelie> wimpies: I had thought that the alternate disc necessity to configure each package during install would mean that it would take longer, but that has not been my experience. live CD is great demo disc, and 'pretty looking', but alternate disc is 'get er` done' I just want to install disc.  :)
[16:43] <Niklas> tclineks_: tcpkill. or the nice way: trickle (http://debaday.debian.net/2007/05/30/trickle-a-lightweight-userspace-bandwidth-shaper/)
[16:44]  * zoom is away: à ce soir
[16:44] <th0r> adac2 make it read splash=verbose if I recall correctly
[16:44] <grimboy> MeNoS, What do you see when you open it with xarchive?
[16:44] <MeNoS> archive manager ?
[16:44] <grimboy> MeNoS, Yeah.
[16:44] <adelie> does nobody have any experience with tweaking swappiness?
[16:45] <MeNoS> i see another folder inside
[16:45] <adac2> th0r: ok
[16:45] <wimpies> adelie : th
[16:45] <adelie> wimpies: have fun
[16:45] <grimboy> MeNoS, Hmm, is it source code or has it been compiled?
[16:46] <grimboy> MeNoS, If it's source, just extract it.
[16:46] <grimboy> MeNoS, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:46] <MeNoS> its extract
[16:46] <grimboy> MeNoS, Then read INSTALL
[16:46] <ikonia> grimboy: give it up
[16:46] <ThipThip> Does anybody know if there is an easy way to mount vdi file in ubuntu so that one can access or modify the contents of a virtual drive without loading the guest operating system? (I tried asking on #Vbox but it's pretty dead at the moment)
[16:47] <grimboy> ikonia, Okay.
[16:47] <adelie> tclineks_: cpu time bandwidth, or ethernet bandwidth?
[16:48] <adelie> tclineks_: what kind of bandwidth are you trying to limit?
[16:48] <MeNoS> igrimboy , it doesn't offer any install instruction
[16:48] <ikonia> MeNoS: the website you have been given offers you command by command instructions
[16:48] <ikonia> MeNoS: you've not even read the website
[16:48] <mtaylor> hardy questions here or elsewhere?
[16:48] <adelie> mtaylor: !hardy > mtaylor
[16:49] <adelie> !hardy
[16:49] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:49] <mtaylor> adelie: rock. thanks!
[16:49] <MeNoS> ikonia , and do you freaking any instructions out there that helps you install a java PPC64 version out there ?
[16:49] <MeNoS> see*
[16:49] <ikonia> MeNoS: "freakin" ? yes, the instructions ljl posted to you give you step by step instructions
[16:49] <ikonia> again
[16:49] <ikonia> as many people have given you links
[16:49] <ZioPippo> E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:49] <ZioPippo> E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:50] <ZioPippo> howto resolve?
[16:50] <MeNoS> medibuntu ??
[16:50] <ikonia> ZioPippo: which dependency is it complaining about
[16:50] <ikonia> MeNoS: no
[16:50] <ikonia> MeNoS: I'm not discussing PS3/PPC topic's in here,
[16:50] <Kate_mins> does it possible to convert file into UTF8 in ubuntu ?
[16:50] <ikonia> MeNoS: the PS3 ubuntu release is not supported by ubuntu, there are specific support groups for that
[16:50] <ZioPippo> how can i see it?
[16:51] <adelie> ZioPippo: what does it say when you try 'debconf mysql-server-5.0' ?
[16:51] <adelie> ZioPippo: OR if when you try `apt-get install`
[16:53] <rama_8086> /bin/sh ./config.status --recheck
[16:53] <rama_8086> /bin/sh: Can't open ./config.status ,,,,,how to solve this error
[16:53] <ikonia> rama_8086: look at the file config.status
[16:53] <ikonia> rama_8086: why can't it open it
[16:54] <ZioPippo> debconf mysql-server-5.0
[16:54] <ZioPippo> debconf mysql-server-5.0
[16:54] <Twigathy> 2
[16:54] <rama_8086> ikonia, where to look that file
[16:54] <ZioPippo> ops sorry...
[16:54] <adelie> ZioPippo: ?
[16:54] <ZioPippo> debconf mysql-server-5.0
[16:54] <ZioPippo> Can't exec "mysql-server-5.0": Nessun file o directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168.
[16:54] <ZioPippo> open2: exec of mysql-server-5.0 failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 58
[16:54] <ikonia> rama_8086: in your current working directory
[16:55] <MeNoS> ikonia , if there any specific groups ofr that
[16:55] <MeNoS> then where can i find them ?
[16:55] <adelie> ZioPippo: ??? ok, that is beyond me. what about `apt-get install` with no other arguments?
[16:55] <erawfish> ZioPippo: use dpkg-reconfigure
[16:55] <ZioPippo> i have same problem here descript: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665504&highlight=mysql with no solution
[16:55] <ikonia> MeNoS: you've been given links multiple times. I would request that you no longer discuss PS3 topic's in this channel as you have been doing this for days and ignoring the output of people
[16:55] <erawfish> rama_8086: that is no error usually
[16:56] <rama_8086> ikonia,i don't have that file in current working directory
[16:56] <ikonia> rama_8086: it should be in the source dir with "configure"
[16:56] <erawfish> rama_8086: why do you insist it is?
[16:56] <ikonia> rama_8086: the only time it's not there is when ./configure failed
[16:57] <adelie> ZioPippo: long shot, is Localhost mapped to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts?
[16:57] <SleepingSloth> on a 'modern' machine (as in, last 3 years), am i likely to see any real world performance benefit from xfce over gnome ?
[16:57] <ssn> hi
[16:57] <adelie> ssn: hello
[16:57] <erawfish> SleepingSloth: mainly a question of amount of memory
[16:58] <kel39> Euhm, hi all, guys. Ive got a little question. I want to set up an ftp server. Ive alredy tryed, but cant connect to it yet. So ive read some info that states that i have to register ad some DSN website to get this working. Is it a must? Is it what isnt letting me to connect to my ftp server? or.. i dunno, some suggestions mb anyone?:) thx
[16:58] <ssn> the i386 kernel package doesnt support the 2 cores of my intel dual core
[16:58] <erawfish> kel39: not a must but depends
[16:58] <`Matir> ssn, that's correct, it has no SMP support
[16:58] <adelie> SleepingSloth: depends on what kind of performance you want. if it is less than three years old, I think you will greatly prefer the features of gnome over the limitations of xfce. I have not seen much of a performance difference that makes up for the lack of features or configurability
[16:59] <ssn> Matir: but there is no -smp version
[16:59] <adelie> kel39: are you using apache2?
[16:59] <rama_8086> ikonia,when iam doing ./configure i got this result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53869/ what should i do
[16:59] <SleepingSloth> erawfish, adelie  is there any other real benefit to xfce / icewm / fluxbox other than smaller memory footprint?
[16:59] <`Matir> ssn, use -generic
[16:59] <erawfish> ssn: there are no 386SMP machines either
[16:59] <adelie> SleepingSloth: yes, if you have < 256 mb ram
[16:59] <tclineks_> Niklas: that looks about perfect, thanks
[16:59] <ZioPippo> @adelie how can i see it
[17:00] <kel39> erawfish: so if ive setup my ftp server, lets say, i cant just go ahead and connect to it right away? offcourse if i havent made any mistakes. right?:)
[17:00] <adelie> SleepingSloth: it would be like trying to use vista on a machine with less than 25tb of memory
[17:00] <ikonia> rama_8086: that is why you don't have config.status as configure has not run correctly. You need to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to point at the gtk package config file
[17:00] <SleepingSloth> adelie, bearing in mind that i have a dual opteron machine with 3gb ram, i dont think i'll worry then....
[17:00] <eitreach> does any of you know about a decent dictionary for translating between danish/english for to use with Ubuntu?
[17:00] <erawfish> kel39: if you know the iP: yes. but residential internet access often changes IPs evrey time you "dial in". or some ports are blocked
[17:00] <SleepingSloth> adelie, what, you mean it actually *works* if you have 25tb of ram?!!
[17:01] <erawfish> kel39: and ftp is very tricky to get right too
[17:01] <rama_8086> ikonia, can u please tell me how to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[17:01] <kel39> adelie: not really, it's actually an xp box where im trying to set it up. just wanna try to set my ftp server, and practice hacking it with metasploit framework. :)
[17:01] <unop_> ikonia, it's possible rama_8086 doesn't have libgtk1.2-dev installed?
[17:01] <adelie> SleepingSloth: I have a machine with 233mhz, and 64mb ram running xubuntu just fine with abiword.. etc
[17:01] <ikonia> unop_ thats very true yes
[17:02] <erawfish> unop_: gtk1.2 is a bit old
[17:02] <ikonia> rama_8086: unop_ has a good point, but either way your configure script is not looking for the correct gtk version/location
[17:02] <ikonia> rama_8086: what are you trying to build
[17:02] <adelie> kel39: sorry, don't do windows server diagnostic. too many reasons to not work
[17:02] <SleepingSloth> adelie, I was meaning vista ;) - but... as i have the hardware, you would say there's little point moving from gnome to xfce?
[17:02] <unop_> erawfish, yes, but it looks like rama_8086 needs it to build whatever he is building
[17:03] <adelie> SleepingSloth: I think going to xfce would be bad
[17:03] <mohbana> hi guys how can i get the ubuntu theme over in fedora?
[17:03] <rama_8086> ikonia,,i want to build a network monitoring system...this code i got from net
[17:03] <ikonia> rama_8086: what is the system you want to build called
[17:03] <adelie> SleepingSloth: low memory footprint doesn't mean effecient
[17:03] <ikonia> mohbana: download from gnome.org or move the theme files across
[17:03] <adelie> SleepingSloth: it just has a way of GETTING things done using as little memory as possible. that doesn't mean faster
[17:03] <stephen-mason> why does xp take so long to install in vmware server? lol
[17:04] <Duke_Fluke> mohbana, have you tried http://www.gnome-look.org/
[17:04] <kel39> adelie: oke, i just wanted to set up some, not the bes, i mean, how would i say, secure, ftp server to be able to get into it :)
[17:04] <SleepingSloth> adelie, no, i am aware of that - but i would expect decent memory management from *any* linux wm.
[17:05] <neverblue> morning
[17:05] <adelie> kel39: I just found apache2 has great sftp support by default and VERY easy to setup depending on your security needs
[17:06] <adelie> SleepingSloth: ??
[17:06] <rama_8086> ikonia, what is the system means ....i didn't get ur point
[17:06] <unop_> rama_8086, is what you are building called blinky?
[17:06] <bio> is there any way to install everything from synaptic? or apt-get ?
[17:06] <ikonia> rama_8086: what is the name of the software you want to install
[17:06] <Lilacor> I'm going crazy. I'm using Gutsy and my keyboard on my D820 locks up frequently on certain applications.
[17:06] <ikonia> bio: * ?
[17:06] <bio> install all the packets from apt-get
[17:06] <Lilacor> Does anyone know how to fix this? This is incredibly frustrating.
[17:06] <ikonia> bio: or "select all" in synaptic
[17:06] <rama_8086> name of sofware is network monitoring system
[17:07] <erawfish> bio: that't the point of the distro
[17:07] <kel39> erawfish: hmm, ports ports ports, may be i have something to do with it, cuz, i have a router adsl modem, witch has firewall inside, or how would i name it, maybe this is why i cant connect, dunno, gonna do some more research
[17:07] <rama_8086> ikonia,name of sofware is network monitoring system
[17:07] <bio> hmm
[17:07] <ssn> but when running the generic or rt kernel, graphics arent working
[17:07] <stephen-mason> is there any way of installing xp into vmware server quicker its takend years?
[17:07] <ZioPippo> adelie: this is into my hosts "127.0.0.1 localhost serverlnx"
[17:07] <ikonia> rama_8086: can you show me a link where you got it please.
[17:07] <ssn> i have a nvidia geforce 8800 card
[17:07] <erawfish> kel39: we do not support windows and we do not support configuring routers. this is for ubuntu questions only
[17:08] <ssn> i tried reinstalling nvidia-glx-new
[17:08] <SleepingSloth> adelie, i have more than a cursory understanding of computer hardware. i understand your point - but i would be shocked if it held any water in this case. are you seriously suggesting that a lightweight wm would be unable to utilise more memory than the minimum amount it actually required? I bvery much doubt it...
[17:08] <kel39> adelie: thx, i know that the one and only real server software is apache, and im looking forwward also of, somettime setting it to, to see/try how secure it is, bot now, not yet :)
[17:08] <bcardarella> Are there known issues when printing to a network connected printer in a mixed Ubuntu/Windows office? Everything will be okay then the jobs will just start throwing Errors and nobody can print.
[17:08] <ssn> but x is always starting in save mode
[17:09] <stephen-mason> is there a quicker way of getting a emulated xp running in ubuntu, im currently installing it in virtual pc but its taking ages?
[17:09] <kel39> erawfish: hehe, i know i know, just had that DNS question, that would be the same for any system, so i tough it would be oke to fire it up here :)
[17:09] <erawfish> kel39: it's still very very rude
[17:10] <rama_8086> ikonia,http://csourcesearch.net/package/blinky/0.2/
[17:10] <ikonia> rama_8086: ok - it's called blinky
[17:10] <stephen-mason> is there a quicker way of getting a emulated xp running in ubuntu, im currently installing it in vmware server but its going realy slow*
[17:10] <adelie> ZioPippo: from the forum you pointed to,that was the only thing I could think of that might be out of place. Sorry, going to have to say this is beyond me. I have not setup a mysql server for production use
[17:10] <ikonia> !info blinky
[17:10] <ubotu> Package blinky does not exist in gutsy
[17:10] <kel39> erawfish: euhm, rude? hmm, ill re-read my comment cuz i havent meant it like this, dunno.. :)
[17:11] <mohbana> what types of themes am i looking for gtk 2.0?
[17:11] <ZioPippo> adelie: tnx
[17:11] <rama_8086> ikonia, ok how to solve that error
[17:11] <ikonia> rama_8086: well you need to set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH correctly or use the correct gtk-libs as unop_ suggested
[17:11] <phroughy> stephen-mason: if it doesn't work in wine, you have to emulate it.  there are other emulators than just vmware, but i have not tried them
[17:12] <ssn> so i have to choose between using just one core of my cpu or getting X to run properly?
[17:12] <adelie> SleepingSloth: well, my argument, and from limited anecdotal experience is that the benifits of xfce are not scalable
[17:12] <stephen-mason> phroughy, its working just slow i thought i might be able to download like a preinstalled xp disk image or somthing?
[17:12] <rama_8086> ikonia, i already installed that package
[17:12] <unop_> rama_8086, try installing libgtk1.2-dev first -- sudo aptitude install libgtk1.2-dev
[17:13] <ssn> because -ck and -i386 are working, but -generic and -rt lead to X always starting with a very low resolution (vesa)
[17:13] <kompute1> I have a bizzare bug that just started, any where i put my mouse cursor, it scrolls up (like if a key is stuck) any ideas on debuggung (besides restarting)
[17:13] <kel39> erawfish: anyway thx for info, ill go search some more info, i guess i just made some mistake somewhere. Setting up an ftp first time :)
[17:13] <ssn> i tried reinstalling nvidia-glx-new
[17:13] <phroughy> stephen-mason: just do a fresh install, emulating is always slow.
[17:13] <ssn> but that didnt do the job
[17:13] <SleepingSloth> adelie, i've got to jet now, but... i agree, that's why i asked the original question. bb
[17:13] <adelie> SleepingSloth: but more so, I would say that the loss of features between xfce and gnome isn't worth it on a system with more that 1gb of memory
[17:14] <stephen-mason> of xp on another partition?
[17:14] <ssn> my problem is, that there seems to be no "meta package" of the generic kernel
[17:14] <adelie> kompute1: do you have a wireless mouse?
[17:15] <phroughy> stephen-mason: no, i mean emulating is always slow, but if its going too slow your xp might be bloated, reinstalling it in the vmware might help
[17:15] <stephen-mason> its the instalation process that is taking long, :) lol
[17:15] <unop_> adelie, well, it's not as if you aren't allowed to use any gnome packages if your DE is xfce -- it really doesnt matter what you use as a DE anyway, infact XFCE and gnome are built atop gtk and share gtk libraries
[17:15] <phroughy> stephen-mason: oh lol, get used to it
[17:15] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly?
[17:16] <stephen-mason> you bastard, :) lol
[17:16] <unop_> !language | stephen-mason
[17:16] <ubotu> stephen-mason: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:16] <stephen-mason> lol, OWWWW!!!!
[17:16] <stephen-mason> we are mostly adults here are we not?
[17:16] <unop_> stephen-mason, no - kids and women pass through too
[17:16] <soc> hi
[17:17] <unop_> stephen-mason, there's a reason that notice says "family friendly"
[17:17] <soc> i'm looking for a linux replacement for derive from texas instruments ... can someone help me?
[17:17] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly?
[17:17] <stephen-mason> im sure they have heard plenty of bad language before AND i wouldnt egsacly call it bad its just a part of it
[17:17] <phroughy> stephen-mason: just follow the rules and stop complaining
[17:17] <unop_> stephen-mason, thats not an excuse for bad language
[17:17] <stephen-mason> it was also said in context with a smily face and a lol, :)
[17:18] <stephen-mason> what ever happend to fredom of speach a!
[17:18] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:18] <adelie> unop_: err... I know that is true from having read documentstion, but just in my experience taking pieces of kde or gnome and adding them to xfce often has 'weird' undesirable results... but i will admit that I never really tracked down the problems... I just use gnome OR xfce default install
[17:18] <unop_> stephen-mason, irc is not a democracy eh
[17:18] <ssn> please
[17:19] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:19] <stephen-mason> lol, it is a tool of a community to communicated. to transmit information, in the form of facts and opinions. there will be difference of opinions if every one said they didnt like the way something was im sure it would get fixed/changed within the chanel
[17:19] <unop_> adelie, i dont really see why you had problems mixing and matching - i run both gnome and kde packages atop fluxbox, yes i have problems, but they're all pretty much fixable
[17:19] <rama_8086> unop_, i installed the package what u said
[17:19] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:19] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:19] <adelie> kompute1: well, if you are still having the issue with a traveling mouse, you are either using a laser mouse on something that was never meant to be a mousepad (very shiny surface or black metalic surface) or you are using a wireless mouse whose battery is about to die
[17:19] <usr13> ssn:  What are you trying to do?
[17:19] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:20] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:20] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:20] <FloodBot1> ssn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <ssn> can anybody help me please getting the generic kernel to work properly with my geforce card?
[17:20] <phroughy> ssn: no one is going to help you if you flood
[17:20] <Duke_Fluke> stephen-mason,  cursing is not an opinion maybe you should try ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:20] <stephen-mason> see what that dudes doing is not cool lol
[17:20] <usr13> Don't just keep  saying it over and over.
[17:20] <unop_> stephen-mason, listen, people get banned from here for saying the most harmless 4 letter words -- you were warned because thats what happens if you swear, now let it pass ok
[17:20] <th0r> ssn that got you a world of help
[17:20] <stephen-mason> your opinion on my cursing is what we was talking about
[17:20] <MeNoS> lol i konia is a funny
[17:20] <ikonia> !offtopic | MeNoS
[17:20] <ubotu> MeNoS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:21] <rama_8086> unp_, what should i do next
[17:21] <adelie> ssn: no, I do not know why you can't get it to work. since i am guessing your problem is that it does not work at all, since that is a very 'early' type problem, try reinstalling with an alternate cd, and enable restricted drivers. :)
[17:21] <MeNoS> i just said u were a funny guy
[17:21] <phroughy> ssn: have you tried to google for help?
[17:21] <rama_8086> unop_, what should i do next
[17:21] <MeNoS> now what is so wrong about that ?
[17:21] <ikonia> MeNoS: this is an ubuntu support channel, please don't make random noise
[17:21] <unop_> rama_8086, try running ./configure again, see what happens
[17:21] <stephen-mason> was just said in a unoffencive manner! should look at things in context and not just pick a peice of it out
[17:21] <ssn> phroughy: i dont have x anymore
[17:21] <ikonia> unop_: was it missing package ?
[17:21] <bastones> Hello. I am pretty new to Ubuntu and I have installed it on my desktop computer. I have a wireless USB adapter which is unfortunately only compatible with Windows. Is there any Linux based software or whatever that would be able to make my USB adapter compatible with the Linux operating system I have just installed.
[17:21] <MeNoS> ok
[17:22] <usr13> ssn: gdm
[17:22] <Duke_Fluke> stephen-mason, this is ubuntu support not #philosophy
[17:22] <phroughy> ssn: do you have another computer to use? a friends or a public computer?
[17:22] <unop_> stephen-mason, there's no ifs and buts, you just get kicked out -- there are no exceptions (except this one, you're still in for some reason)
[17:22] <ssn> phroughy: no, but elinks
[17:22] <unop_> ikonia, well, let's find out - he just installed libgtk1.2-dev
[17:22] <ikonia> unop_: ahh cool
[17:23] <ssn> i googled and there are just these tutorials how to get nvidia running
[17:23] <sudoubungu> ubuntu sucks
[17:23] <MeNoS> bungu , you suck
[17:23] <adelie> bastones: both windows and linux have issues with 'non-standard' wireless adapters, particularly when they are third party. my recommendation is to search in google for "ubuntu insertmodelnumberhere"
[17:23] <th0r> sudoubungu yup...you should reinstall windows
[17:23] <ssn> but not on the fact, that installing other kernels than i386 doesnt work
[17:23] <ikonia> sudoubungu: that is not appropriate for this channel.
[17:23] <usr13> ssn: What display adapter do you have?
[17:23] <stephen-mason> lol, why are you stressing so much, who made you all high and mightly just chill, i havent gone swaring saying every bad word under the sun have i. i am just explaining that just because there was a bad word there doesnt mean it was a bad phrase
[17:23] <ikonia> sudoubungu: this is a support channel only
[17:23] <ikonia> MeNoS: please don't respond like that
[17:23] <MeNoS> fine ikonia
[17:23] <usr13> !nvidia
[17:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:23] <MeNoS> if you wont help
[17:23] <phroughy> ssn: you usually get better results doing a google search, rather than hoping that someone here knows how to help you, so try to do that. if you need to you can use lynx
[17:23] <ssn> usr13: as i said before, its a geforce 8800 and im using nvidia-glx-new
[17:23] <MeNoS> then thats it
[17:23] <adelie> sudoubungu: if you like vista, go for it. don't care
[17:23] <sudoubungu> th0r> <MeNoS> ikonia no other linux and solaris an dfreebsd
[17:23] <ssn> that works with -i386 and -ck
[17:24] <unop_> stephen-mason, thats not what the !ops think tho
[17:24] <usr13> ssn:  see above from ubotu
[17:24] <th0r> sudoubungu no...you would be much happier in windows
[17:24] <sudoubungu> just giving warning to all the noobs
[17:24] <ssn> usr13: ?
[17:24] <usr13> ssn: Do you not have Xserver at all right now?
[17:24] <ikonia> sudoubungu: please stop that attitude, and stop making posts up - that was never said
[17:24] <Duke_Fluke> stephen-mason, instead of beating your head against a brick wall why not take your discussion to a more suitable forum?
[17:24] <ssn> usr13: its running with vesa
[17:24] <rama_8086> unop_, ./configure is working successfully how to create a executable
[17:25] <stephen-mason> im fine here thanks for the help
[17:25] <MeNoS> th0r , do you know anything about PPC arch ?
[17:25] <ikonia> unop_: good catch
[17:25] <ikonia> MeNoS: PPC support is not in this channel
[17:25] <th0r> MeNoS nope...sorry
[17:25] <unop_> rama_8086, it depends on how you need to build the package -- refer to the INSTALL/README file in the same directory
[17:25] <phroughy> rama_8086: make then sudo make install
[17:25] <usr13> ssn:  see
[17:25] <MeNoS> ikonia , what is wrong with you man!! ?? i was just asking him a question !!
[17:25] <ikonia> MeNoS: you are using a PS3 which is not supported by the main ubuntu community as you have been told more than once, you have also been given links to that community website
[17:25] <Spenser309> Does anyone know which program is responsible for automounting my cd drive
[17:25] <unop_> rama_8086, its probably make -- but that depends
[17:25] <wjohnd> i loaded the wrong video driver how do i revert
[17:25] <MeNoS> ikonia!!
[17:25] <kalpik> Spenser309, hal
[17:25] <th0r> MeNoS this place gets better every day <smile>
[17:25] <usr13> ssn:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:25] <MeNoS> nah
[17:26] <MeNoS> ikonia
[17:26] <MeNoS> pisses me off
[17:26] <Spenser309> kalpik:  how can i use hal to run an shell command
[17:26] <ssn> i usr13 i tried all that
[17:26] <phroughy> !enter | MeNos
[17:26] <ubotu> MeNos: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:26] <Spenser309> kalpik: when a cd is inserted
[17:26] <wjohnd> ty
[17:26] <ikonia> !language | MeNoS
[17:26] <ubotu> MeNoS: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:26] <adelie> MeNoS: ikonia: YellowDogLinux has much better support for PS3 than ubuntu
[17:26] <kalpik> Spenser309, i dunno that much.. sorry :)
[17:26] <fhorta> Grrrr. How can I stop  kacipid??
[17:26] <ikonia> adelie: very good point
[17:26] <Spenser309> kalpik: its alright
[17:26] <ssn> its just that there is a i386 meta package, but no generic package
[17:26] <MeNoS> adelie , i don't like yellow dog
[17:26] <phroughy> fhorta: sudo killall kacipid L
[17:27] <Spenser309> kalpik:  do you happen to know where the documentation for hal is?
[17:27] <phroughy> L = ?
[17:27] <usr13> ssn: Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Ubuntu
[17:27] <ikonia> Spenser309: gnome has some good docs on it due to intergration
[17:27] <ssn> there is linux-386 and in my case linux-686-ck
[17:27] <ssn> but no linux-generic
[17:27] <kalpik> Spenser309, im sorry again! probably a google should help you out!
[17:27] <Spenser309> ikonia: im looking for something that runs without gnome
[17:27] <MeNoS> yellowdog linux sucks
[17:27] <sudoubungu> television sucks
[17:27] <ikonia> MeNoS: please stop that attitude
[17:27] <ikonia> sudoubungu: please stop that attitude
[17:28] <MeNoS> what attitude man ??
[17:28] <green-_> anyone know of a decent osx style icon set for gnome?
[17:28] <amedx> leopard
[17:28] <usr13> MeNoS: This channel is about ubuntu.
[17:28] <ikonia> green-_: there are a few on gnome-look
[17:28] <kalpik> green-_, heard of mac4lin?
[17:28] <th0r> ikonia since ubuntu 6.06 is still supported why isn't ppc supported here?
[17:28] <adelie> MeNoS: ikonia: me neither, but it is a group of people that are PPC / PS3 hacking fanatics. I might recommend starting with yellow dog, and taking some time to learn how to tweak it. mind that linux is one giant system, and that virtually everything can be mixed and matched. I once completly merged fedora core 6 with ubuntu. weird, but it worked
[17:28] <green-_> for that matter, should i even stick w/ gnome these days?
[17:28] <green-_> kalpik: nope
[17:28] <ikonia> th0r: that is supported 7.10 on PS3 - isn't it's got it's own community support
[17:28] <Duke_Fluke> green-_,  check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412086
[17:29] <th0r> ikonia but 6.06 is supported here...and they offered a ppc distro
[17:29] <nalioth> !tell sudoubungu about offtopic
[17:29] <kalpik> green-_, http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
[17:29] <ssn> ok im going back to the ck patchset, since this channel isnt helping at all
[17:29] <ikonia> th0r yes it is, but he's not using 6.06 and he's using virtualised PS3 - which is not supported
[17:29] <MeNoS> ikonia , no it isn't supported
[17:29] <ssn> thx for ignoring me
[17:29] <CygnusX1> Hello.  I am trying to install barnyard on US7.10...configure for it is complaining that it cannot find the mysqlclient library.  Any thoughts?
[17:29] <green-_> Duke_Fluke: ah, i've read the article it links to ... and one of the things it is missing is an icon set... suggests you make your own .. and i don't have the time to sit there putting in icons one at a time :)
[17:30] <ikonia> CygnusX1: how are you installing barnyard ?
[17:30] <adelie> geez, someones got a case of the mondays
[17:30] <th0r> ikonia actually, he just asked me if I knew anything about ppc...seems a decent question for a channel that is supposed to support a ppc distro
[17:30] <Duke_Fluke> Greeny_,  ahh sorry didn't know that :)
[17:30] <CygnusX1> ikonia: from source
[17:30] <shrug> hey people.... anyone have any resources for a dual boot installation
[17:30] <ikonia> th0r he's been in here from days, which is why I know what he's asking
[17:30] <ikonia> CygnusX1 you'll need libmysqlclient from the repo's
[17:30] <MeNoS> i've been in here for days ??
[17:31] <MeNoS> does that means you don't sleep , ikonia ?
[17:31] <MeNoS> 24/7 ehh ??
[17:31] <WorkingOnWise> would the package "hibernate" be a good thing to try if my laptop doesn't properly suspend or hibernate with Ubuntu "out-of-the-box"?
[17:31] <ikonia> yes, you've been in and out for days asking about PS3 under the nick menos, arrg and another one
[17:31] <adelie> ikona does not sleep.
[17:31] <MeNoS> another one ??
[17:31] <MeNoS> and which is this another ?
[17:31] <MeNoS> and i don't know ar or what u speak of
[17:31] <phroughy> !enter | MeNoS
[17:31] <ubotu> MeNoS: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:31] <ikonia> fair enough
[17:31] <MeNoS> see now ur accusing me of being someone that i wasn't
[17:32] <ikonia> MeNoS: this is offtopic for this support channel
[17:32] <kompute1> adel, the cursor is not moving - just the age i am on scrolls up when i place my mouse over it
[17:32] <CygnusX1> ikonia: I have libmysqlclient15-dev installed
[17:32] <sangprabo> Hi, everyone. Is there any alternatives for FTP synchronizer like weex that simpler and easy to use?
[17:32] <ikonia> CygnusX1 where is your configure script looking for the libs ?
[17:32] <MeNoS> ikonia , get in ubuntu-powerpc
[17:32] <Duke_Fluke> sangprabo, what are you trying to do?
[17:33] <MeNoS> and lets settle this
[17:33] <ikonia> CygnusX1 it may also need the native client package
[17:33] <ikonia> MeNoS: I am
[17:33] <MeNoS> since u seem to take this very insulting
[17:33] <CygnusX1> ikonia: /usr/lib  (I have also tried manually pointing it at /usr/lib/mysql)
[17:33] <usr13> MeNoS: This channel is too busy for anything but Q&A and there's no room for idle chat / arguments.
[17:33] <ikonia> CygnusX1: does it actually want the binary client ?
[17:33] <ikonia> CygnusX1: or just the libs
[17:33] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: I just want to update my site, using a synchronizer like... So my local file exactly same with my site
[17:33] <Duke_Fluke> sangprabo,  have you heard of rsync?
[17:33] <CygnusX1> ikonia: The libs as far as I can tell
[17:33] <unop_> CygnusX1, is libmysqlclient15off installed?
[17:33] <Seamus> Has anyone here had any luck getting ntp-server working on dapper?
[17:33] <ikonia> CygnusX1  can you stick the configure output in a pastebin
[17:34] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: yes, but my hosting doesn't allow ssh
[17:34] <adelie> kompute1: ??? you may have a key stuck on your mouse. have you tried another mouse? also, check your universal access settings, just in case if you get the same behavior with a different mouse. just something that has happened to me when I get weird HID issues
[17:34] <unop_> Seamus, yea, once a long time ago
[17:34] <CygnusX1> I do also have the mysql-client package isntalled
[17:34] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: it only supports FTP
[17:34] <Duke_Fluke> sangprabo, ahh that sucks
[17:34] <CygnusX1> ikonia: Sure...do you have a preffered bin?
[17:34] <smallfoot-> when is nwe alpha coming?
[17:34] <ikonia> !pastebin | CygnusX1
[17:34] <ubotu> CygnusX1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:34] <ikonia> CygnusX1: the ubuntu one is good
[17:34] <usr13> Seamus: Should work ok, are  you having a specific problem?
[17:35] <smallfoot-> when alpha 4 come?
[17:35] <ikonia> smallfoot-: #ubuntu+1
[17:35] <Seamus> usr13: it simply isn't listening on port 123
[17:35] <WorkingOnWise> would the package "hibernate" be a good thing to try if my laptop doesn't properly suspend or hibernate with Ubuntu "out-of-the-box"? I really dont think it is an Ubuntu  issue. I think it is a cheapo hacked up oem bios issue...When it suspends, it does so for maybe 1 second, then wakes itself up. When it hibernates it taked over 90 seconds and then on resume, it does a ful boot, not resume.
[17:35] <JFactor> Can anyone help me fix my panel applets in gutsy
[17:35] <adelie> sangprabo: when god gives you lemons, you GET A NEW GOD! a good hosting serve should give ssh service to your servers
[17:35] <usr13> I think it runs udp by default.  Are you having your clients make requests via udp?
[17:35] <sudoubungu> gparted trying to size from 230 gig to 215 and 46 GB used. how long? i waited 37 dayssuper duper cuper nuper uper ruper urber lurker narder karkar nerger hot!!
[17:36] <adelie> sangprabo: serve/service
[17:36] <CygnusX1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53871/
[17:36] <ikonia> sudoubungu: just ask your questions simpley and clearly
[17:36] <Seamus> usr13: how can I determine that?  I'm using an ubuntu client
[17:36] <ikonia> sudoubungu: there is no need for the other noise
[17:36] <ikonia> CygnusX1: got it
[17:36] <soulburner> connect irc.mozilla.org
[17:36] <sudoubungu> ikonia what other noise?
[17:37] <adelie> WorkingOnWise: I might recommend reading up on the forums about the benifits of that package with your particular system
[17:37] <ikonia> sudoubungu: 37 dayssuper duper cuper nuper uper ruper urber lurker narder karkar nerger
[17:37] <ikonia> CygnusX1: thats very odd, one moment
[17:37] <JFactor> I cant add any applets to my panel in gutsy anymore does anyone know how to repair this?
[17:37] <sangprabo> adelie: So, what is your suggestion? I think, change my hosting is not a solution..
[17:37] <usr13> Seamus:  -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.
[17:37] <sudoubungu> ikonia> are you  a girl?
[17:37] <Belboz99> Hey all, I custom-compiled my kernel to support a wireless card, now I'm missing the capability module for my ftp server, does anyone know if there is a way to install the capability module without recompiing the kernel?
[17:38] <ikonia> sudoubungu no, and that's offtopic for this channel
[17:38] <JFactor> I get a message reading "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_GWeatherApplet"."
[17:38] <Duke_Fluke> sangprabo,  how come you can't use weex?
[17:38] <usr13> Seamus: ^ from man utpdate
[17:38] <adelie> sangprabo: sorry if I missed your problem. what are you trying to do?
[17:38] <sudoubungu> ikonia ok i pm you
[17:38] <ikonia> CygnusX1: ok what version of mysql is it expecting
[17:38] <Seamus> usr13: here's the error I get when synchronizing using a windows client: the peer's stratum is less than the host's stratum
[17:38] <ikonia> sudoubungu: I'd rather you didn't please.
[17:38] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: I just want to know if there is a more powerful tool than weex...
[17:39] <Duke_Fluke> sangprabo,  ah i see well that would be rsync
[17:39] <fotoflo> how do i find out which version of a program im using?
[17:39] <CygnusX1> ikonia: I have no idea...where can I look for that?
[17:39] <ikonia> CygnusX1: just looking now
[17:39] <neonl> apt-cache
[17:39] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: So, there is no "FTP Synchronizer"-like, isn't it?
[17:39] <sangprabo> Duke_Fluke: except weex?
[17:40] <zvi_to> m having some trouble w ubuntu... actually i cant run it nor boot it from the cd...
[17:40] <zvi_to> hi\
[17:40] <Pici> !nickspam > > (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:40] <adelie> sangprabo: ftpfuse lets you mount an ftp server like any other device, and allows you to use tools like rsync
[17:40] <Pici> !nickspam > tyrtle (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:40] <ikonia> CygnusX1: looks like a bug you'll need to edit aclocal.m4 and acinclude.m4 and replace mysql_real_connect with mysql_connect
[17:40] <sudoubungu> nigger
[17:41] <shift1> hi
[17:41] <shift1> anyoone here?
[17:41] <shift1> i could use some help
[17:41] <ikonia> Pici: I asume you saw that
[17:41] <adelie> !ask
[17:41] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:41] <demonio> i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:41] <usr13> Seamus: This looks interesting:  http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070407094643AAWI3KW
[17:41] <shift1> just installed ubuntu, looking to get some help?
[17:41] <sangprabo> adelie: what is ftpuse? Is it a tool?
[17:41] <CygnusX1> ikonia: Is that what changed recently in mysql that broke a lot of things?
[17:41] <fotoflo> how do i find out which version of a program im using? anyone know?
[17:42] <ikonia> CygnusX1: it looks like that was a legacy function that got removed from earlier mysql 4 functions
[17:42] <usr13> fotoflo: aptname -v  or aptname --version
[17:42] <pajamian> fotoflo: if it's a graphical app then usually help menu/ about
[17:42] <shift1> is it bad to use "restricted drivers" for my Broadcom built-in wireless card
[17:42] <adelie> sangprabo: it is an extension to fuse that lets mount support ftp as a filesystem type like ext3 or ntfs and mount it
[17:42] <demonio> some help installing amsn
[17:42] <pajamian> if it's a console app then usually --version
[17:42] <DRebellion> shift1: morally, yes. practically, no.
[17:42] <adelie> sangprabo: rsync is a tool for synchronizing directories
[17:42] <zvi_to> used grub. my windows was fucked up but i could still into ubuntu. a few days later i installed all the uptades i could. restarted and all of sudden it couldnt open my user. later on i ve tried to reboot from the ubuntu cd and windows cd nut no way, i end up all the time at the grub and the installed ubuntu doesnt even work anymore. any idea what can i do?? thx a lot
[17:42] <usr13> fotoflo: Many gui apps have a Help option that includes "About" which has version numbers as standard info.
[17:43] <ikonia> CygnusX1: does that make sense now
[17:43] <phenom> Hey guys, somehow or another I wound up with multiple xchat icons in the status toolbar. Tight clicking on them does not work,, is the only way to reset the gnome toolbar by resetting x?
[17:43] <shift1> i mean can it mess up my system, or really ruin how ubutnu runs like the "pop-up" claims?
[17:43] <ikonia> !language | avis
[17:43] <ubotu> avis: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:43] <ikonia> zvi_to: that language is uncalled for
[17:43] <phenom> s/tight/right/
[17:43] <adelie> sangprabo: but this assumes that your host service uses standard permissions, and not some funky proprietary web UI for everything
[17:43] <CygnusX1> ikonia: Yes...thank you.  I will give it a spin.
[17:43] <ikonia> CygnusX1: super
[17:43] <demonio>   some help to install amsn 0.97 final
[17:43] <levander> I've never used wine before.  But, now I want to try it to run emule.  Any advice on how to get started figuring out how to do this?
[17:44] <sangprabo> adelie: Hm.. I think I lost my head. I will try to simplify my question. What is "FTP synchronizer"-like in Ubuntu/Linux except weex?
[17:44] <DRebellion> shift1: the drivers are given as binary by third-party manufacturers. therefore, we don't know what they will do.
[17:44] <demonio> you don't need emule, better use amule
[17:44] <bastones> Hello. I am trying to find help on getting my Belkin G USB wireless adapter to work with Linux (Ubuntu) which I have recently installed on my desktop computer. Does anybody know any articles on ubuntu.com or other sites that'll help me get my USB wireless adapter working with Ubuntu. Cheers
[17:44] <elwo0d> hi all
[17:44] <no0tic> hi elwo0d
[17:44] <shift1> how can i make it so i dont have to use password to sign-in to ubuntu every time i login, right now im logging in as "home" is that the higest user? it wont let me login as root.. or if you can how do you do that?
[17:44] <DRebellion> !wireless | bastones
[17:44] <ubotu> bastones: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:44] <ikonia> shift1: if you don't know how to login as root - you shouldn't be doing it
[17:44] <demonio> levander... better use amule
[17:44] <ikonia> shift1: for your own saftey
[17:44] <shift1> uhuh
[17:45] <levander> demonio: amule is broken, the developers are in #amule, they told me to build from svn snapshots available on their web site.  Those snapshots don't build.  amule developers are just wasting people's time with their software.
[17:45] <usr13> shift1: Yes you can implement passwordless login.
[17:45] <adelie> sangprabo: Oh, if that is a package, then I don't know other than what I can assume from the name. sorry
[17:45] <DRebellion> shift1: there is absolutely no need to login as root. if you need to run a command as root, prefix it with 'sudo'.
[17:45] <shift1> okay well, how can i make it so "home" does not keep asking for a password each time i boot, or every time i try to install an app.
[17:45] <zombie_monkey> "This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg package. AIf you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" -> every time I want it updated or just once after I edit it?
[17:45] <shift1> okay thats fine, thank you. i just want to remove the password off "home"
[17:45] <zvi_to> ikonia whats the matter with the language?
[17:45] <phenom> shift1, No you do not.,
[17:45] <ikonia> zvi_to: bad language is not allowed in this channel
[17:46] <phenom> shift1, Id hom your only user on thtta system?
[17:46] <sangprabo> adelie: okay. Thank you very much. I love this channel...
[17:46] <phenom> blah
[17:46] <shift1> yes in the list of "users" i have "home" and "root"
[17:46] <usr13> shift1: System -> Administration -> Login Window
[17:46] <demonio> i need to install the new amsn
[17:46] <Jezz> how do i get those cool effects i saw on YT
[17:46] <ikonia> demonio: why do you need to
[17:46] <phenom> Is home your only user on that system? You need a password protected sudo user.
[17:46] <Jezz> something called beryl or somthing?
[17:46] <JFactor> Oh well looks like I managed to fix it myself, thank you all anyway
[17:46] <JFactor> take care
[17:46] <ikonia> Jezz: compiz-fusion
[17:46] <green-_> why can't i find window manager settings anywhere in the appearance/other prefs? am i just missing it?
[17:46] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:46] <Jezz> oh
[17:46] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:47] <shift1> well i see "home" and "root"
[17:47] <unop__> shift1, passwords are a good thing you know
[17:47] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:47] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:47] <Jezz> eh ok :O
[17:47] <pajamian> shift1: you can remove it from when you login if you trust anyone that has physical access to the computer, but it's recommended that you don't try to remove it from things such as updates because that is how any kind of virus or attacker that gets into your system can escalate his privs.
[17:47] <no0tic> !repeat | demonio
[17:47] <ubotu> demonio: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:47] <wjohnd> i changed the video driver in my installation now when it boots its unreadable i am running from cd anyway to go into the hard drive and use the origional setup if so how do i find the backup of the origional setup?
[17:47] <ikonia> demonio: why do you NEED it
[17:47] <shift1> oh okay
[17:47] <shift1> thats fine then
[17:47] <usr13> shift1: Not a good idea to remove password.  Passwords afford security on a linux system, not having one is very bad.
[17:47] <ikonia> !repeat | demonio
[17:47] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:47] <demonio>  i need some help installing the amsn 0.97 final version
[17:47] <shift1> okay well would removing LOGIN password be bad?
[17:47] <adelie> shift1: while it can be annoying, it is an important security thing. this keeps random things from being able to install stuff for you without your permission. reason why in part linux has no viruses to speak of. either type `sudo su` before beginning your 'administrative work, or restart into single user mode
[17:47] <ikonia> demonio: stop repeating please.
[17:47] <Jezz> how do i get compiz-fusion?
[17:47] <no0tic> ikonia, already did :)
[17:47] <ikonia> demonio: why do you need that amsn version
[17:47] <demonio> ok, sorry
[17:47] <adelie> shift1: removing a password from root would be VERY bad
[17:47] <Ghost-Fox> Hello everyone
[17:48] <DRebellion> Jezz: sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion
[17:48] <ikonia> Jezz: it's installed on ubuntu 7.10 already
[17:48] <demonio> ikonia: it is better
[17:48] <ikonia> demonio: why ?
[17:48] <shift1> adelie can i message u?
[17:48] <levander> demonio: Maybe go find the amsn community?  Maybe they have a mailing list or something.
[17:48] <ikonia> no0tic: sorry, missed it
[17:48] <unop__> shift1, thats ok -- autologin's are fine, but keep a password for administration
[17:48] <adelie> shift1: yes
[17:48] <wimpies> I want to reinstall my system from scratch and install all the packages I had installed before.  How can I do that ?
[17:48] <demonio> ikonia: it has new features and support for web cam
[17:48] <phenom> removing passwords from any user is bad..
[17:48] <usr13> shift1: If you go to:  System -> Administration -> Login Window  you can implement passwordless login.
[17:48] <ikonia> demonio: the current version has web cam support
[17:48] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, how did you change the video driver?
[17:48] <Jezz> do i need to enable it?
[17:49] <ikonia> Jezz: yes,
[17:49] <demonio> ikonia: yes. but it does not work very well
[17:49] <pajamian> shift1: goto System menu / Administration / Login Window and select the users tab, from there you can select a user to auto-login.
[17:49] <wjohnd> i was running from the hd and used the driver settings
[17:49] <phenom> If you remove a password of a regular user, people could still connect to your box with that user. might now have root access, but enough to get it.
[17:49] <Ghost-Fox> hey, uh, do any of you have any idea why my PC won't start? A few days ago we unpluged it so we could move it to a new room and the pwoer supply stoped working, we replaced it (With a better one), and now the PC won't start at all, every part of it boots, but the rest won't work. >.> I had jsut finished installing ubuntu 7.1 a couple of day's before this, and I have no idea what's wrong.
[17:49] <unop__> !clone | wimpies
[17:49] <ubotu> wimpies: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:49] <zombie_monkey> xorg.conf says: "This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg package. AIf you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" -> every time I want it updated or just once after I edit it?
[17:49] <demonio> ikonia: maybe this new version has high quallity in the cam
[17:49] <ikonia> demonio: maybe it doesn't investigate before upgrading blindly
[17:49] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, what driver settings?!?!
[17:49] <phenom> shift1, I personally wouldn't even dream about not using passes.
[17:49] <_moro_bana_> wimpies:get aptoncd to write them to cd
[17:50] <altra22> Help Me with My wireless Device :) plz
[17:50] <_moro_bana_> wimpies:  or copy em manually
[17:50] <wjohnd> i set it from default to use the intel 810 driver
[17:50] <phenom> Any way "hollar"
[17:50] <DRebellion> altra22: what be thou problem?
[17:50] <wjohnd> it doesnt work said to reboot when i did nothing was visible
[17:50] <Ghost-Fox> Hey, could someone help me? >.> My PC won't start anymore. I replaced the power supply after it stoped working.
[17:50] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, ok i think you mean that you edited your 'xorg.conf'...you should change it back to the 'vesa' module i think
[17:51] <ikonia> Ghost-Fox: join ##hardware
[17:51] <Ghost-Fox> K\
[17:51] <ikonia> Ghost-Fox: we don't support hardware issues in here, thanks
[17:51] <usr13> shift1: We know that it doesn't make much difference on MS Windows, but Linux is different, passwords are very important.
[17:51] <wjohnd> ok in xorg.conf
[17:51] <adelie> the frequent necessity of password for administrative tasks can be an annoying change from windows... but it is having a pad lock on your auto destruct button. it is just a good idea
[17:51] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, yes
[17:51] <Ghost-Fox> OK, thanks
[17:51] <altra22> my Netowrk manager show me tha bars but no connection
[17:51] <demonio> ikonia: i'm using an autopackage
[17:51] <ikonia> demonio: so ?
[17:51] <demonio> ikonia: an error result
[17:52] <_moro_bana_> is there any instant messenger that i can make pc-pc calls, the other person is using yahoo msger
[17:52] <zombie_monkey> adelie: also, not if you run Vista :)
[17:52] <ikonia> that doesn't change what I 've said. Resarch more before blindly upgrading
[17:52] <demonio> ikonia: the error says that the tcl-dev does not exist, and it is already installed
[17:52] <zombie_monkey> so guys, noone knows about xorg.conf?
[17:52] <bruenig> !skype | _moro_bana_
[17:52] <ubotu> _moro_bana_: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[17:52] <flea> zombie_monkey: what about it?
 what do you need to know?
[17:52] <zombie_monkey> xorg.conf says: "This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg package. AIf you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" -> every time I want it updated or just once after I edit it?
[17:52] <usr13> shift1: Linux is more secure and stable than MS Windows when good passwords are used, but it is quite the opposite if passwords are not used.
[17:52] <wjohnd> duke _fluke under section 'device'
[17:53] <shift1> well would removing the password from the "login" screen be bad too? i dont mind putting in the password when installing packages.
[17:53] <ikonia> demonio: autopackage is not part of ubuntu
[17:53] <_moro_bana_> bruenig: i have skype installed but i didnt know it can call yahoo msger
[17:53] <DRebellion> shift1: autologin is fine.
[17:53] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, hold on let me check mine one sec...
[17:53] <wjohnd> ty
[17:53] <flea> zombie_monkey: after you edit it to your liking u can disregard that unless you need to revert to a default
[17:53] <shift1> how can i turn on autologin?
[17:53] <altra22>  i have a screen shot please take alook iam chatting from windows http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2321/2225802939_1e7d171530_o.png
[17:53] <bruenig> _moro_bana_, make him install skype too
[17:53] <usr13> shift1: Auto-login is not so bad, (others would dissagree, but....).
[17:53] <unop__> zombie_monkey, you are likely to lose any changes you make to the xorg.conf file if you reconfigure xorg
[17:53] <noodlesgc> shift1 gksu gdmsetup
[17:54] <DRebellion> shift1: System -> Administration -> Login Window
[17:54] <adelie> zombie_monkey: well, 'security' isn't an issue on vista because the NSA and microsoft are very carefully watching everything you and your computer do 24/7 to ensure you and the computer are not doing anything bad, and immediately destroys / deletes/ updates / updates anything they think you need, without even wasting the time of letting you know that it is doing it, let alone ask for a password
[17:54] <demonio> ikonia: i tried it by console too
[17:54] <shift1> i dont know the commands im very sorry, i just installed ubuntu yesterday, after a week of playing around on live cds.
[17:54] <bingodeville> _moro_bana_: i have heard of Gyachi, a Yahoo client, but have not used it so I'm not sure it's abilities.. might could research into that
[17:54] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, yeah thats right
[17:54] <ikonia> demonio: autopackage is not supported or part of ubuntu
[17:54] <demonio> ikonia: but the same error was out
[17:54] <cristobal> fuck you
[17:54] <wjohnd> duke_fluke thanks
[17:54] <shift1> hey watch your language please
[17:54] <ikonia> !ops | cristobal language
[17:54] <ubotu> cristobal language: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[17:54] <demonio> cristobal: respect
[17:54] <DRebellion> demonio: heh
[17:54] <Seveas> cs kb cristobal
[17:54] <_moro_bana_> bingodeville: i ll research on that
[17:54] <bruenig> give him a warning at least
[17:54] <Duke_Fluke> wjohnd, np :)
[17:54] <ikonia> bruenig: why - that was uncalled for
[17:55] <nixternal> Seveas: / :p
[17:55] <altra22> people any body can help me here with wireless issue ?????
[17:55] <zombie_monkey> adelie: I meant you would not find asking all the time for a password to do administrative tasks tedious if you have used Vista before using Ubuntu
[17:55] <adelie> zombie_monkey: they make it easy by carefully letting you know in the EULA, and never bothers you with notification again
[17:55] <demonio> just use a better language
[17:55] <noodlesgc> altra22 waht brand card?
[17:55] <usr13> altra22: What seems to be the problem?
[17:55] <altra22> realtek
[17:56] <shift1> to turn on AutoLogin what do i do exactly after going into  System -> Administration -> Login Window, i just dont want to mess anything up.
[17:56] <usr13> altra22: Should work ok, what seems to be the problem?
[17:56] <adelie> zombie_monkey: oh, vista asks for passwords from the user for administrative tasks? neat
[17:56] <unop__> shift1, dont worry, you havent/wont't have messed anything up
[17:56] <altra22> please take alook at my screenshot http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2321/2225802939_1e7d171530_o.png
[17:57] <demonio> ikonia: what can i do with this package that are installed but do not appear to be
[17:57] <altra22> network manager show me nothing
[17:57] <ikonia> demonio: autopackage is not part of ubuntu, get support from the autopackage guys
[17:57] <adelie> zombie_monkey: vista you don't even get to know the root password
[17:57] <pajamian> shift1: select the security tab, then check the box for "Enable Automatic Login" and pick a user name from the list (probably home).
[17:57] <shift1> thank you!
[17:57] <unop__> adelie, windows has no _root_ :)
[17:58] <pajamian> then just close and you can restart to test
[17:58] <usr13> altra22: You sure you're not already connected?
[17:58] <shift1> okayyyyyyyy so now who can help me get youtube working? lol.. last time i downloaded some codecs and ubuntu ended up crashing.
[17:58] <altra22> how can i reset route function and reset network manager ??
[17:58] <xenthro> hey guys, im trying to change permissions for a folder inside my ntfs partition, but when i change it in the properties it immediately changes back, any ideas?
[17:58] <usr13> altra22: Put your mouse cursor on the bar-graph-icon and see what it says.
[17:58] <adelie> unop__: yes it does, you just can't access it from the local machine. it is for microsoft administrative purposes only
[17:58] <usr13> altra22: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:59] <demonio> ikonia: the problem is not with the autopackage
[17:59] <Seveas> xenthro, ntfs doesn't understand permissions
[17:59] <ikonia> demonio: how do you know ?
[17:59] <Seveas> demonio, if you use autopackage you are only creating problems
[17:59] <unop__> adelie, you mean the SYSTEM user or the Administrator user? because "root" isnt a valid user
[17:59] <altra22>  iam on win-xp now !! it show that it trying to connect but no connect
[17:59] <Seveas> don't use autopackage or don't ask for support in here, it's rather simple :)
[17:59] <demonio> ikonia: the problem is with the tcl build directory, it exist, but during the compilation the error says that it does not exist
[17:59] <ikonia> demonio: how do you know thats not autopackage -
[17:59] <usr13> altra22: Win-XP ?
[18:00] <altra22> Yes because no connection in my ubuntu
[18:00] <demonio> ikonia: 'cuz i use the aptitude install command
[18:00] <ikonia> demonio: aptitude doesn't compile software
[18:00] <usr13> altra22: Did you click on the icon?
[18:00] <xenthro> I am trying to install a game with wine onto my ntfs partition but the installer halts and tells me that I do not have permission to write to the drive... how do i get around this?
[18:00] <rama_8086> unop_, Thanks u very much today u have solved my major problem
[18:00] <adelie> unop__: SYSTEM is a super user that can do MOST administrative tasks. the 'tools' that can only be used by 'root' are encrypted and can only be decrypted with a key that microsoft keeps
[18:00] <Seveas> xenthro, install on a non-ntfs drive :)
[18:01] <altra22> yes
[18:01] <xenthro> Seveas that is not an option
[18:01] <usr13> altra22: When you click on the icon, does it show the essid of your router?
[18:01] <unop__> adelie, errm .. ok :)
[18:01] <unop__> rama_8086, ye
[18:01] <adelie> adelie: It is why sometimes windows updates runs even when updates has been disabled
[18:01] <Seveas> xenthro, then mount the drive with correct mount options so you can write to it
[18:01] <unop__> err. yw
[18:01] <shift1> under System > Administration > Users and Groups when you to go PROPERTIES for "root" for USER PRIVILEGES are all the boxes suppose to be checked or unchecked? because for me they are unchecked, and i wanted to make sure everything is the way its suppose to be.
[18:01] <altra22> it show me the router but i can't connect i tried manual config but also no connection
[18:02] <usr13> altra22: Did you try restarting the network?:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:02] <demonio> ikonia: thank you... i will try by another way
[18:02] <usr13> altra22: Does your router use encrypted authentication?
[18:02] <DRebellion> shift1: not checked on mine
[18:02] <altra22> No :) i didn't try to reset and i disabled the security
[18:03] <usr13> altra22: What is the essid of your router?
[18:03] <adelie> unop__: you would need to have auditing service running to know when it is happening or that 'root' has changed something, but this is generally an automated task, not like a microsoft employee logging directly into your individual machine
[18:03] <altra22> SIEMENS-xxxxx
[18:03] <altra22> SIEMENS-XXX and numbers :)
[18:04] <usr13> altra22: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid SIEMENS-xxxxx
[18:04] <usr13> altra22: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:04] <Nik0la0s> Linux dell 2.6.24-3-generic #1 SMP ? what the SMP after the kernal version?
[18:05] <altra22> what about route function is the secound command do the reset for route ?
[18:05] <noodlesgc> Nik0la0s what did you type to get that?
[18:05] <adelie> unop__: check the news about the controversy over the recent windows updates, and richard stallman's comments on what is refered to as 'trusted computing'. it is also explained in the vista EULA. it is MOSTLY a vista thing
[18:05] <Nik0la0s> noodlesgc, uname -a
[18:05] <Pici> noodlesgc: symmetric multi-processing.
[18:05] <DRebellion> adelie: is that over the forced upgrade of IE?
[18:05] <vwbusguy__> adelie: got a link?
[18:06] <IOWAHC> hy there. question. I have ubuntu gutsy running with the radeon drivers. Now I want to plug in an extra monitor. everything fine. it activates. but it only shows in 1280x800 on a 4:3 screen. now, how can I change the resolution to 1280x1024 using xrandr and when I say --right-of the second monitor shows an error on the right side of the screen and when i move with the mouse on it, X freezes
[18:06] <adelie> DRebellion: that is how microsoft is able force everyone to switch even when you have updates disabled
[18:06] <usr13> altra22: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[18:06] <altra22> The problem that each time i try to connect and fail i log to Win-Xp iam trying to Migrate Windows
[18:06] <usr13> altra22: (where 192.168.1.1 is IP of router)
[18:06] <green-_> i have emerald installed.. anyone know how i switch to it?
[18:06] <adelie> the first one that comes to mind is http://www.badvista.org
[18:06] <green-_> can't seem to find where
[18:06] <unop_> adelie, errm RMS talks a lot :)
[18:07] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:07] <vwbusguy__> I'm still here, y it say I quit :(
[18:07] <usr13> altra22: Yes, second command will also set default GW
[18:07] <adelie> unop_ agreed
[18:07] <ante> hello
[18:07] <usr13> altra22: In other words, if you use both the comands I gave you, it should connect.
[18:07] <adelie> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/eula.mspx
[18:08] <IOWAHC> hy there. question. I have ubuntu gutsy running with the radeon drivers. Now I want to plug in an extra monitor. everything fine. it activates. but it only shows in 1280x800 on a 4:3 screen. now, how can I change the resolution to 1280x1024 using xrandr and when I say --right-of the second monitor shows an error on the right side of the screen and when i move with the mouse on it, X freezes
[18:08] <Duke_Fluke> altra22, did you try usr13's commands? what is the output of 'sudo iwconfig' now?
[18:08] <DRebellion> !repeat | IOWAHC
[18:08] <ubotu> IOWAHC: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:08] <adelie> ok, sorry for the off-topic, it is just part of the reason I use ubuntu, even if it wasn't better for what I do.
[18:08] <usr13> altra22: I did not understand your last comment.
[18:09] <altra22> Ok i will restart my machine and try out the commands Thx usr13 and i will be back i hope this time from ubuntu
[18:09] <rama_8086> how to avoid asking of password for doing administrative tasks
[18:09] <usr13> altra22: no need to restart, but you can if you like.
[18:09] <usr13> altra22: Actually, if you restart, it might connect automatically.
[18:09] <rama_8086> how to avoid asking of password for doing administrative tasks again & again in ubuntu
[18:09] <Duke_Fluke> usr13, i think hes booted into windows right now so he has to reboot into ubuntu
[18:09] <altra22> usr13 iam now on Xp not ubuntu i need to restart to ubuntu Os :)
[18:10] <DRebellion> rama_8086: it's really not recommended.
[18:10] <usr13> altra22: Oh, I see.  Go ahead, you should have enough info ...
[18:10] <shift1> can someone tell me how to get youtube working through firefox on ubuntu.. ive already downloaded Adobe Flash Player Plugin and Gnash SWF Viewer.. please?
[18:10] <DRebellion> !brokenflash | shift1
[18:10] <ubotu> shift1: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:10] <usr13> shift1: Try the ogther flash player.
[18:10] <DRebellion> shift1: and also, you only need one of them. not both (gnash and adobe).
[18:10] <altra22> usr13 thanks i will be back and tell the results but i hope this time from ubuntu ;)
[18:11] <bert> okey, usplash is being odd, on my new PC it doesn't show when I use the live CD or when I boot from my installed version (both 64bit) but if I boot from my portable ubuntu system on a USB-stick (32bit) it does work, why ?
[18:11] <usr13> altra22: It should work, good luck
[18:11] <shift1> oh really? well what if i only stick with Gnash would youtube work? if so.. how do i uninstall Adobe Flash Player
[18:11] <altra22> ;) thanks ..
[18:11] <adelie> shift1: installing mozilla-vlc and/or ubuntu-restricted-packages from universe should fix the youtube problem ,if you live outside the united states ;)
[18:11] <rama_8086> DRebellion, actually when iam opening synaptic packet manager it asking password ....i want to avoid this
[18:11] <cleaton> youtube wont work with gnash
[18:11] <DRebellion> rama_8086: removing the root password is a *very* bad idea.
[18:12] <shift1> ohhh okay
[18:12] <usr13> shift1: Just install Shockwave Flash
[18:12] <mcisbackuk> cleaton: It doesn't use the follwing to install Adobe's flash
[18:12] <mcisbackuk> !flash | cleaton
[18:12] <ubotu> cleaton: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:12] <adelie> shift1: I may have the vlc package mane wrong, but search synaptic for packages whose name begins with mozilla and you will find an appropriate package sifting through the results
[18:12] <rama_8086> DRebellion, is there any settings to do that
[18:12] <cleaton> mcisbackuk, i know it won't work, i just said it won't >>
[18:12] <shift1> okay does shockwave flash work with youtube?
[18:13] <bert> okey, usplash is being odd, on my new PC it doesn't show when I use the live CD or when I boot from my installed version (both 64bit) but if I boot from my portable ubuntu system on a USB-stick (32bit) it does work, why ?
[18:13] <mcisbackuk> cleaton : Which is why you were just given a link to the Forum thread to get Adobe's flash
[18:13] <sexy> hi people
[18:13] <rama_8086> my system some times got hangup what should i do?
[18:13] <sexy> :>
[18:13] <cleaton> mcisbackuk, i have flash, i was talking to shift1
[18:13] <adelie> DRebellion: I thought the adobe and gnash packages were conflicted... and if installed via source.. bad things happen forcing them to work together
[18:13] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086, when does it hangup?
[18:14] <cleaton> !flash | shift1
[18:14] <ubotu> shift1: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:14] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:14] <rama_8086> when i playing videos,moving mouse etc
[18:14] <shift1> !flash
[18:14] <shift1> where do i type that
[18:14] <shift1> haha
[18:14] <mcisbackuk> cleaton: Then please type the person's name followed by a : when talking to one person in particular, or we don't know who you're talking to.
[18:14] <JFactor> I have a problem with my update manager.
[18:14] <rama_8086> Duke_Fluke,  when i playing videos,moving mouse etc
[18:14] <sexy> who do i ask for ubuntu PPC help?
[18:14] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086, have you taken a look inside the computer?
[18:14] <usr13> rama_8086: I would run a memtest
[18:14] <ader10> How much faster is freenx compared to regular x over ssh
[18:14] <cleaton> mcisbackuk, i will
[18:14] <DRebellion> Can we all give the bot a rest for a bit?
[18:14] <mcisbackuk> JFacotr: What is the problem?
[18:14] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086, everything is ok? your system fans, motherboard, etc?
[18:15] <cleaton> shift1, you don't have to type that, read what ubotu said
[18:15] <JFactor> I receive three messages similar to this "http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" and I cant finish the update.
[18:15] <rama_8086> all things are OK
[18:15] <Pici> !enter | rama_8086
[18:15] <ubotu> rama_8086: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:15] <adelie> rama_8086: are you running out of memory? and are sure you mean hangup? (hangup is something very specific)
[18:15] <sexy> so i have a g4 mac with YDL on it, and i want to install ubuntu instead...
[18:15] <sexy> i try to run the live boot cd
[18:16] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086, can you try another live cd, linux distro, or windows on this computer?
[18:16] <sexy> but it kicks the res to somethign dumb that my monitor cant handle
[18:16] <usr13> rama_8086: What CPU do you have?  How much memory do you have?
[18:16] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: Can you go into System>Admin>Software Sources and change over to the Main server, there may be a problem with the mirror.
[18:16] <sexy> is there a way to just launch a text install from the yaboot screen?
[18:16]  * k3asd re
[18:16] <DRebellion> !alternative | sexy
[18:16] <ubotu> sexy: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[18:16] <rama_8086> i have celeron D processor and 256 mb ram
[18:16] <sexy> <3
[18:17] <sexy> ROXED IT. thank you.
[18:17] <DRebellion> sexy: erm.. ok
[18:17] <ader10> How much faster is freenx compared to regular x over ssh
[18:17] <rama_8086> Duke_Fluke, now my harddisk contains only ubuntu
[18:17] <adelie> rama_8086: ok, that can be an issue. I IMHO would set your swappiness to 100, that way the system will keep as much system memory free at all times for the present task
[18:17] <usr13> rama_8086: 256 is minimal, you may be just running out of memory.  Run top in a terminal and see what's going on.
[18:17] <sexy> !minimal
[18:17] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:17] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086, have you checked you hard drive? what is the history of this machine? I mean was it running windows fine for 3 years until yesterday or...?
[18:17] <peter120980> hello, can anyone help me with ubuntu installation please?
[18:17] <adelie> !ask
[18:17] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:18] <mcisbackuk> Wow, who upgraded the bot?
[18:18] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: ok I will try
[18:18] <shift1> how come my xchat doesn't have the xchat logo next to its name.. it has a weird white window instead? as if.. the icon image doesnt exsist or something.
[18:18] <usr13> rama_8086: When you run out of memory, it will stall, and sometimes, if you wait long enough, you will regain some response, but will be very slow.
[18:18] <dogwater> hi there. Does anyone know of a way to make vncserver start to the 'login' screen upon booting 7.10?
[18:19] <dogwater> instead of binding it to a user?
[18:19] <adelie> usr13: rama_8086: might you agree that setting a max swappiness should resolve this issue... to the best of his hardware's ability?
[18:19] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: no that did not work, the last three packages gave me an error again
[18:20] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: What packages are you after?
[18:20] <adelie> !swappiness
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swappiness - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <bert> !vnc dogwater
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vnc dogwater - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <JFactor> none in particular it just the update packages
[18:20] <bert> dogwater !vnc
[18:20] <Duke_Fluke> rama_8086,  usr13 has a good point according to this -->http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710 you should have at least 384MB ram
[18:20] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: OK, you on Gutsy/Hardy?
[18:20] <rama_8086> usr13, my mem is 256mb my swap is 1000mb
[18:20] <dogwater> ohhh kay
[18:20] <shift1> how come my xchat doesn't have the xchat logo next to its name.. it has a weird white window instead? as if.. the icon image doesnt exsist or something.
[18:20] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: gutsy
[18:20] <adelie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311118
[18:21] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: Have you tried dpkg --configure -a ?
[18:21] <mocoloco> dogwater, I don't think it can be done, I think VNC has to be in a user session already started.  Check out FreeNX as an alternative https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[18:21] <JFactor> no
[18:21] <peter120980> i cant use the ubuntu live cd in either normal or safe mode but i can use the alt cd to install ubunto.  Problem i have now is my monitor turns off after grub. I have done the nosplash thing in menu.lst and tried various other things also, i can load in recovery, i dont have a file called xorg.conf either, any ideas please? im using Gutsy
[18:21] <usr13> dogwater: su - user -c "/usr/local/bin/vncserver :1 &" &
[18:21] <dogwater> usr13: in what, rc.local?
[18:21] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: that didnt seem to do anything
[18:21] <usr13> dogwater: put ^ in /etc/r.local
[18:21] <usr13> dogwater: Yes
[18:22] <mcisbackuk> peter120980: Did you try with the normal Live CD and lower the resolution to 640x480?
[18:22] <dogwater> usr13: is there no way to allow a user to login like remote desktop on windows?
[18:22] <stealthy> Could someone please help me set up compiz-fusion? I've followed the AIGLX walkthrough because I have an Intel GMA950 adapter, and am using the intel i810 driver in xorg.
[18:22] <Dukan> hahaha
[18:22] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: It doesn't give an output, but try updating now - sudo update-manager
[18:22] <stealthy> I have no direct acceleration, and running compiz --replace gives this error set: http://www.pastebin.ca/876227
[18:22] <usr13> dogwater: it's /usr/bin/vncserver
[18:22] <stealthy> I would appreciate any help with this issue.
[18:23] <adelie> Duke_Fluke: usr13: rama_8086: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311118 swappiness tells the system how and when to swap things out of memory. too much stuff in memory creates horrible latency, even on machines with a lot of ram. offloading to disc can lower latency a lot depending on how you use your machine
[18:23] <peter120980> yes, i have been trailing through the forums for the past 2 days also try ing to find a solution
[18:23] <rama_8086> Duke_Fluke, adelie , usr13 thnks
[18:23] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: it says warning: could not initiate dbus
[18:23] <Dukan> PiranhaP, hi
[18:23] <usr13> dogwater: it's /usr/bin/vncserver  not "/usr/local/bin/vncserver"
[18:23] <^punisher> sup?
[18:23] <stealthy> Does anyone have any idea what my problem is?
[18:23] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: That's normal, just click Check and then Install your updates as normal when the window comes up :)
[18:23] <ader10> Why is freenx not in the repos?
[18:23] <Debaser> Hi, i m trying to install windows xp using virtualbox but i ve come across an error while followin the ubuntu documentation, can any one helpp me out with this?
[18:24] <^punisher> dunno
[18:24] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: Ok, Same problem
[18:24] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: What packages are you trying to install, and how are you doing it? Synaptic?
[18:24] <DRebellion> Debaser: what is the error?
[18:24] <mikebeecham> hi caxn someone tell me how to update freetype?
[18:24] <usr13> dogwater: thinclient system may be what you want.
[18:25] <JFactor> I am just hitting the check button on the update manager
[18:25] <JFactor> and it will not finish the last three
[18:25] <JFactor> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:25] <JFactor> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:25] <JFactor> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:25] <Dukan> hi Moldador
[18:25] <Pici> !paste | JFactor
[18:25] <ubotu> JFactor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:25] <JFactor> pici: sorry
[18:25] <Dukan> KlarkC, hi
[18:25] <adelie> stealthy: Checking for nVidia: not present. that's your problem. do you have hardware accelerated 3d card?
[18:25] <Debaser> DRebellion, i m trying to run the commands  ls -l /dev/vboxdrv but i gets bash: $: command not found
[18:25] <Moldador> hello Dukan
[18:25] <mikebeecham> hi caxn someone tell me how to update freetype?
[18:25] <rama_8086> i want to create a software known as network monitoring system which books i should read
[18:25] <Dukan> haha
[18:25] <danilo> excuse me please the channel ubuntu italiaplease?
[18:26] <stealthy> adelie, gma950
[18:26] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: OK, then there is a problem with the metadata, have you added anything manually to /etc/aptsources.list??
[18:26] <Pici> !it | danilo
[18:26] <ubotu> danilo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:26] <stealthy> adelie, so yes.
[18:26] <Debaser> DRebellion, btw i m following the guide on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[18:26] <adelie> stealthy: one sec, gonna look up that card...
[18:26] <solo> help
[18:26] <brobostigon> good evening
[18:26] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: it is possible
[18:26] <Dukan> Dont speak portuguese
[18:26] <usr13> dogwater: This may be of interest to you:  http://www.ltsp.org/
[18:26] <stealthy> adelie, It's intel GMA950, aka i945g integrated
[18:26] <danilo> thank you
[18:26] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: how would I find out
[18:26] <DRebellion> Debaser: you must have the command 'ls' on your system!?
[18:26] <stealthy> adelie, I don't believe xubuntu came with the module for it, but I'm not sure how to check.
[18:27] <Zhaozhou> Oh hi. I'm wondering what i need to get a usb sd-cardreader working on ubuntu. I installed the server edition, and then X, so nothing is there
[18:27] <adelie> stealthy: compiz on xfce?
[18:27] <Zhaozhou> i know however that it does work, since it did on my xubuntuinstall earlier
[18:27] <bcardarella> Are there any articles on adding a network printer (TCP/IP) to a Ubuntu Server via CUPS?
[18:27] <stealthy> adelie, yes
[18:27] <Debaser> DRebellion, well i dont know is that something i have to install the error is the same i ve tried several times now
[18:27] <adelie> stealthy: as far as I know, you can not run compiz on xfce
[18:27] <DRebellion> Debaser: no, that's a basic unix command :?
[18:27] <adelie> stealthy: but I am sure someone will correct me momentarly if I am wrong
[18:27] <crdlb> stealthy: please join #compiz-fusion
[18:27] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there's anything you may have added to it, alternatively, delete the lines in that file that correspond with the error you're getting, then go back into Software Sources and check your updates etc are on, if not, enable, and retry
[18:27] <Pici> Debaser: Do you get an error if you just type ls?
[18:27] <stealthy> adelie, why's that? I've seen videos of it, and it "works", I just have issues with horrible horrible fps, hence my debugging it
[18:28] <crdlb> adelie: that's not true :)
[18:28] <adelie> stealthy: is there a restricted river for that card?
[18:28] <stealthy> crdlb, have been there with no help.
[18:28] <stealthy> adelie, I don't believe so, pretty sure it's in-kernel
[18:28] <Debaser> Pici, no just when  i type the whole command on the quide
[18:28] <insigne> oi
[18:28] <crdlb> stealthy: well I can help you there ;)
[18:28] <Debaser> ls -l /dev/vboxdrv
[18:28] <mikebeecham> hi can someone tell me how to update freetype?
[18:28] <insigne> com vc esta
[18:28] <Pici> Debaser: Are you copying the $ before the command too?
[18:28] <stealthy> crdlb, is there a way to re-download a kernel with modules, or am I going to have to compile? gotta run in a few minuts
[18:29] <insigne> oie
[18:29] <adelie> stealthy: again, someone will likely correct me in just a sec, but I don't think there is a hardware 3d driver for the intel cards under linux
[18:29] <crdlb> stealthy: compile what?
[18:29] <Pici> Debaser: Because you shouldnt.
[18:29] <Debaser> ah Pici ok .....****feels like such a noob*** sorry for botherring u
[18:29] <Pici> Debaser: Nah, its okay.
[18:29] <crdlb> adelie: there is ... :) and it ships with ubuntu
[18:29] <stealthy> adelie, there is
[18:29] <insigne> oie
[18:29] <mcisbackuk> adelie: There isn't an Intel kernel, as there in for Nvidia and ATI as such, at least not on Ubuntu
[18:29] <stealthy> crdlb, a new kernel for the driver module
[18:29] <stealthy> crdlb, I'm getting increasingly suspicious it didn't build right
[18:29] <insigne> como vc esta
[18:30] <peter120980> the other problem is im completely new to linux, from reading posts people have edited xorg.conf file in the X11 directory but looking in etc directory i dont even have a X11 folder there
[18:30] <dogwater> whatever i'll just tell him he'll have to SSH
[18:30] <dogwater> i dont have time for this
[18:30] <Duke_Fluke> peter120980, if your missing that folder than maybe your installation didn't complete?
[18:30] <mcisbackuk> peter120980: When using Google make sure its Ubuntu linux ;) Not all distros save config files in the same place
[18:31] <usr13> dogwater: This is also interesting: http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[18:31] <adelie> mcisbackuk: stealthy: crdlb: wouldn't that mean that you would not get the desktop performance benifit of using compiz over metacity or xfce WM?
[18:31] <adelie> only the pretty features
[18:31] <Pici> peter120980: Linux is case sensitive, so if you are trying to get into /etc/X11, make sure you are using caps when necessary.
[18:31] <Duke_Fluke> peter120980,  run the command 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate xorg.conf'
[18:31] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: I dont know which ones to delete it there doesnt seem to be anything added
[18:32] <insigne> oie
[18:32] <mcisbackuk> adelie: Let me guess, it's an Intel 915 series graphics chip right?
[18:32] <adelie> 950
[18:32] <MeNoS> ikonia
[18:32] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: The ones that are exactly the same as the error you were getting
[18:32] <adelie> mcisbackuk: 950
[18:33] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: there arent any
[18:33] <mcisbackuk> adelie: Intel 915/950 graphics chipset has no 3D support that i know of...I think in windows it may even 'fake' a lot of the support, I was reading up on it yesterday, no pixel shader high end support etc. So I would assume linux is same.
[18:33] <peter120980> ok gonna go try that sudo thing
[18:33] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: Then if there's no errors, there's no problem....
[18:34] <JFactor> But there is a problem
[18:34] <crdlb> mcisbackuk: ... it may not have pixel shaders, but provide 3d acceleration
[18:34] <mcisbackuk> crdlb: I know, but because of limitations on these chipsets, 3d support is pretty useless anyway, it can't hold it's own.
[18:35] <crdlb> mcisbackuk: it's enough for compiz :)
[18:35] <crdlb> so not entirely useless
[18:35] <adelie> mcisbackuk: stealthy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512691 are you perchance using ubuntu 64-bit edition?
[18:36] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: because with this whenever I install a plugin it fails because the final three packages wont download
[18:36] <shift1> is there any way to reset everything to default without having to install ubuntu over again?
[18:36] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: Please remove any occurrences in sources.list for the errors you are getting, you said AMD64 gutsy-updates, so start with that ;) Then re-run the updates, but make sure to re-enable the updates sources in system>Admin>Software Sources
[18:36] <mcisbackuk> !sources.list | JFactor
[18:36] <ubotu> JFactor: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[18:37] <sedra> hi
[18:37] <shift1> Is there anyway to reset everything to default and remove all softwares that didnt come default.. without having to install ubuntu all over again?
[18:37] <peter120980> ok i did the "sudo updatedb" i got a blinking cursor for a bit then it went back to the comannd prompt.  I have also managed to locate xorg.conf as well
[18:37] <adelie> crdlb: what is has allows it to run, which is different than lowering your desktop footprint by offloading your desktop to your graphics card. compiz with software rendering defeats the purpose of switching to compiz unless the purpose was eye candy
[18:37] <mcisbackuk> shift1: Not really.....
[18:38] <altra22> back guys ubuntu didn't make it here is the result of all commands http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2116/2225897441_957822d2ff_o.png
[18:38] <shift1> is there a command i can use to install the new updates without using GUI then?
[18:38] <DRebellion> peter120980: that is normal behaviour of updatedb
[18:38] <mcisbackuk> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:38] <adelie> shift1: `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade`
[18:38] <mcisbackuk> shift1: ^^
[18:38] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53879/
[18:39] <adelie> shift1: as root, of course
[18:39] <bastones> Hello. I am trying to make my Belkin USB G wireless adapter work with my Ubuntu laptop, and I am not getting anywhere with it. I tried adding a wireless connection via 'Networking' with no luck (from a Ubuntu documentation) any help appreciated
[18:39] <ubuntu_> hi, I need help. I have my system down and have booted with Kubuntu livecd. I have mounted my home partition and now am creating a new user in console so that I can login and restore my session. I type this command: useradd -p test -d /media/user1/home user1  when I logout and login the password test is not recognized. Is there something wrong I am doing?
[18:39] <ubuntu_> moreover, if I wish to get back into livecd, what user and password should I use?
[18:39] <peter120980> ok ill edit the xorg.conf file and see what happens
[18:39] <altra22> usr13 you still here ?
[18:40] <DRebellion> ubuntu_: you're just editing the ramfs that the livecd set up. not the hard drive.
[18:40] <mcisbackuk> JFactor: Remove the bottom 4 lines and retry, it's trying to get updates twice
[18:40] <bastones> * sorry I mean my ubuntu desktop
[18:41] <ubuntu_> DRebellion: so, what does this mean? I am doing something wrong? Can you advice please? I was told to do so for getting into my profile using a livecd distro with kde
[18:41] <void^> ubuntu_: with -p you need to specify an encrypted password. it doesn't take a clear text password on the commandline.
[18:41] <jahsmac> ./whois chanserv
[18:41] <adelie> bastones: while possible not very encouraging, I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416248. are you familiar with nswrapper? and do you have a landline to get packages to make the wireless work?
[18:41] <JFactor> mcisbackuk: There where only 31 items this time however the problem persisted
[18:41] <sedra> !ati
[18:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:41] <DRebellion> jahsmac: no dot
[18:42] <sedra> !ATI
[18:42] <DRebellion> ubuntu_: you need to edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow  i think
[18:42] <ubuntu_> void^: if so, what should I do? Create a new account without a password and then create a new password with passwd <username>?
[18:42] <sedra> !compiz
[18:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:42] <void^> ubuntu_: passwd user1
[18:43] <bastones> adelie: I don't have a clue about what nswrapper is... I am pretty clueless at this stage as I do not know a thing I'm doing to get my wireless adapter working...
[18:43] <thecoolone19> does ubuntu only have a Live CD version ?? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[18:43] <sedra> compiz dont work :(
[18:43] <DRebellion> !install | thecoolone19
[18:43] <ubuntu_> ok, thks
[18:43] <adelie> ubuntu_: when you added the user, did you chroot to your system before adding the user, othwerwise you only added the user to the live session, which would be reset on restart'
[18:43] <_nmap> whats the package name for install the C man-pages with apt-get? When i type man qsort my ubuntu dont find the man page.
[18:43] <murrayc> Does anyone know how long we have to wait for builds when uploading to PPAs?
[18:43] <adelie> !nswrapper
[18:43] <ubotu> thecoolone19: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nswrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:44] <zimon> _nmap, manpages-dev
[18:44] <CMA> ndiswrapper*
[18:44] <Pici> _nmap: manpages-dev
[18:44] <thecoolone19> ubotu: thanks :)
[18:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:44] <ubuntu_> adelie: what I am doing is just work in within livecd.
[18:44] <_nmap> zimon, Pici : thanks.
[18:44] <CMA> ubotu: ndiswrapper
[18:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:44] <adelie> bastones: nswrapper lets you take drivers from windows and emulate them in linux when native linux drivers are not available. it is one of those "worst case scenario linux can do anything with patience" things, but it getting to know how it works is worth the time
[18:44] <CMA> ubotu: xorg.conf
[18:44] <CMA> ?
[18:44] <CMA> :p
[18:44] <ubuntu_> is this command correct then? useradd -d /media/user1/home <username>
[18:45] <brobostigon> !ndiswrapper
[18:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:45] <ubuntu_> void^:  is this command correct then? useradd -d /media/user1/home <username>
[18:45] <PiranhaP> Dukan: hello.  Sorry, didn't expect any greetings :)
[18:46] <Seth275> Hi everyone.
[18:46] <peter120980> still get the same problem after i change the xorg.conf file to what the forums suggest. One thing i was wondering was about my BusID "PCI:2:0:0", this is a PCI-E slot, coul this possibly be wrong?
[18:46] <void^> ubuntu_: perhaps, i don't really know what you're trying to do.. the path doesn't look right either way
[18:46] <shift1> when playing mpegs, wmvs, etc.. whats the better choice for EASY use VLC or MPlayer
[18:46] <brobostigon> bastones: i think its ndiswrapper, not nswrapper
[18:46] <adelie> ubuntu_: when you are in the live session, run `chroot` with the root directory of your normal system you want to fix as the argument. in my case that would mean, for example, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/home, followed by chroot /media/home then adduser...
[18:47] <unagi> what command do i need to issue for mencoder to strip the audio from a video file
[18:47] <Seth275> I'm a bit confused. Currently I'm trying to compile my own kernel but for some reason the system is missing important header like sys/types.h. Do I have to installe a seperate packet to get them?
[18:47] <bod_> dreamnid, hey dude, remember me,. the loading bar problem?
[18:47] <altra22> Shift1 this is the result of sudo iwconfig    http://pastebin.com/d2db9b693
[18:47] <adelie> sorry, it is ndiswrapper, not nswrapper
[18:47] <bastones> Not sure what to do to get my wireless USB adapter to work, I don't have any experience about what ndiswrapper is or whatever, and how to use it to get my adapter to work.
[18:48] <ubuntu_> what if I wish to get back into live cd. What is the live cd username and password?
[18:48] <Dukan> ok, PiranhaP, I understand
[18:48] <brobostigon> !ndiswrapper | bastones
[18:48] <ubotu> bastones: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:48] <bod_> !ndiswrapper | bastones
[18:48] <adelie> bastones: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416248 has a link to instrustions for that specific adapter
[18:49] <CMA> someone knows why ubuntu ignores my xorg.conf ( sorry for my bad english )
[18:49] <CMA> ?
[18:49] <brunner> hi all
[18:49] <adelie> Seth275: did you install the kernel header development packages?
[18:49] <kbrooks> um
[18:49] <kbrooks> i need to encrypt swap.
[18:49] <brunner> is there a GUI tool that will do a search and replace in multiple files?
[18:50] <kbrooks> !swap
[18:50] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[18:50] <shift1> what is a better alternative to Windows Media Player.. VLC or MPlayer? Or well.. whats easier to work it and use, and is more compatible?
[18:50] <KitWiller> hello
[18:50] <usr13> Seth275: libc6-dev - GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files
[18:50] <adelie> shift1: IMHO vlc
[18:50] <brunner> I know I can use perl, but I was wondering if there was a tool that would show me some sort of preview before it made the changes
[18:50] <catach> shift1: I agree, VLC
[18:50] <brobostigon> shift1: vlc will be miles easier
[18:50] <adelie> shift1: vlc can do anything
[18:50] <shift1> how can i set VLC as default placer.
[18:50] <shift1> player**
[18:50] <bod_> Hey guys, i have a problem, i do not/ have not ever had the loading bar splash screen,. by changing /etc/usplash.conf from 1280x1024 to 1280x800 i now have the unloading bar, for when i shut down, but not the bars for when i booot up,.,. any ideas?
[18:50] <usr13> ablyss: sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:50] <MeNoS> adelie ?
[18:50] <adelie> shift1: in windows?
[18:51] <adelie> MeNoS: yes?
[18:51] <altra22> usr13 can you please see the results http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2116/2225897441_957822d2ff_o.png
[18:51] <usr13> shift1: sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:51] <shift1> no, im on ubuntu.. and i want to set VLC as my default video/music player.
[18:51] <CMA> mplayer rocks!
[18:51] <shift1> i already installed vlc.
[18:51] <MeNoS> I wanna install java and the pakahe file is a tgz
[18:51] <cox377> hey all, for some reason my recycle bin wont empty, any ideas or how to force it?
[18:51] <MeNoS> how do i install it ?
[18:51] <invisible> Хая)
[18:51] <KitWiller> Shift1: Left mouseclick on ur media file, then props, then, "open with"
[18:51] <bod_> shift1, right click on a file type you want vlc to be default for and select properties, then the open with tab
[18:51] <adelie> shift1: check out #windows. there are lots of linux people there too, and would give better help
[18:52] <KitWiller> Right click.. yes.. sorry
[18:52] <CMA> my xorg.conf is actually ignored ¿why? someone help me!!
[18:52] <usr13> altra22: Is your router's essid SIEMENS-Ibr ?
[18:52] <altra22> yes
[18:52] <bod_> CMA, how do you no ur xorg.conf is ignored, i very much doubt it is
[18:53] <adelie> MeNoS: if that was a question for me, and tar.gz USUALLY has a readme file that tells you everything. scripted installation of binary linux packages are ALL different
[18:53] <usr13> altra22: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:53] <altra22> and can't connect
[18:53] <altra22>  i do it it give me ok but don't connect
[18:53] <Skrux> hi
[18:53] <bastones> sorry about this but I am totally lost in what to do at this point... I am close going back to Windows as I do not have a clue on what to do next to get my wireless adapter to work (I have checked out the topic you linked to and not sure what to do at all) sorry about this...
[18:53] <usr13> altra22: If the dhcp server on the router is working, it should issue an IP and default GW and nameservers etc.
[18:53] <MeNoS> k adelie
[18:53] <Skrux> do anybody know if openarena is compatible with quake3 ?
[18:54] <CMA> I donk know english so what "no ur" means?
[18:54] <bod_> bastones, can you pastebin the output for ifconfig plz
[18:54] <altra22> the route function say that iam 10.0.0.0 but in Xp show me 10.0.0.2
[18:54] <Skrux> 'cos I installed quake3 in ubuntu and the sound does'nt work !
[18:54] <bod_> CMA,  sorry how do you know your xorg.conf is ignored?
[18:54] <KitWiller> please Help me... i have a ATI radeon x1950pro with LAST ATI drivers installed, but i can't enable effects, and all the graphic interface is slow... really slow...like Webbrowsing, and whatelse
[18:55] <adelie> bastones: is getting a different wireless adapter a possibility? wireless drivers are the biggest problem in both windows and linux right now for lack of standards people can agree on
[18:55] <CMA> bod_: because its ignored! :p
[18:55] <fatih> How can i give write permission for my current user for var/www folder?
[18:55] <Skrux> do anybody know if openarena is compatible with quake3 multiplayer mode ?
[18:55] <usr13> altra22: I would also need to see the output of ifconfig
[18:55] <brobostigon> skrux: i use quake3 under wine inside kubuntu, ad the sound wrks fine fr me.
[18:55] <shift1> what group should my "default" user be under? should i put it under admin or user? or.. ?
[18:55] <usr13> altra22: You can manually set it up:
[18:55] <invisible> who work in Qt?
[18:55] <anakin_> where can i find repos for beryl? i can't find 'em in my universe repos
[18:55] <bod_> CMA, type this in a terminal: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:55] <Pici> !beryl | anakin_
[18:55] <ubotu> anakin_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:56] <altra22>  yes i do it manually and i want to reset it
[18:56] <Skrux> brobostigon: I tasted quake3 under wine in ubuntu, and I don't work
[18:56] <bastones> adelie: I'd rather not as I know some how from other peoples sayings that the Belkin G USB wireless adapter will work with Ubuntu... but I am not sure what to do at all and I'd really prefer to use Ubuntu to Windows in contrast.
[18:56] <brobostigon> Skrux: well it works for me,
[18:56] <adelie> bastones: if getting a different wireless adapter is not an option, then sorry to say you would most likely your best option is switching back to windows. However, if part of your reason for using ubuntu is because you value your freedom and right to privacy, I highly recommend using windows 2000, as it doesn't have all the back doors of xp or vista
[18:56] <usr13> altra22: Are you sure you are not connected?  Can  you ping the router>?
[18:56] <peter120980> i get as far as "*runing local scripts...." then he screen flashes a few times then goes blank but stays on now where as before it used to turn off, this is when i i try running gutsy after the grub loader, any ideas?
[18:56] <blu3_sky> gdfgd
[18:56] <Skrux> brobostigon: but, openarena works with quak3 servers ?
[18:56] <CMA> it dosn't loads any module, not selects the driver I want and so...
[18:57] <shift1> What user group should my default user account be under? Admin or User or .. Something else?
[18:57] <blu3_sky> hy everybody
[18:57] <brobostigon> skrux: no idea, i havent tried
[18:57] <altra22>  i did some manual config in connection manager then i put it to roaming mode | i can't ping the router address wich is 10.0.0.138
[18:57] <zLoSteR> Hi :) Can anyone tell how to put different wallpaper on my 5 desktops I am with Compiz Fusion
[18:57] <fatih> How can i give write permission for my current user for var/www folder?
[18:57] <usr13> altra22: sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.91
[18:57] <Starnestommy> shift1: admin and user and probably a few others, including one named after the user
[18:57] <bastones> adelie: Is there anyway to get my Belkin wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu at all?
[18:57] <usr13> altra22: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[18:57] <CMA> bod_: it dosn't permits me to select what modules I whant
[18:57] <bod_> altra22, if you cant ping your own router then your either not connected at all or your connected to a different network
[18:58] <blu3_sky> salutare
[18:58] <usr13> altra22: ping 192.168.1.1  (to see if you're connected)
[18:58] <anakin_> !compiz
[18:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:58] <Skrux> brobostigon: when u know I tell me ok ? thanks
[18:58] <bod_> CMA, I don't know what else to suggest. Sorry
[18:58] <CMA> I know how do things but I don't know why Ubuntu ignores my config
[18:58] <sidelil> excuse me, with hamachi, if I ping another user it says "Destination Host Unreachable" although I see himì in the network.
[18:58] <DRebellion> bastones: i have a belkin wireless g usb adapter that works
[18:58] <usr13> altra22: Are you sure that you have turned off encription on the router?
[18:58] <KitWiller> please Help me... i have a ATI radeon x1950pro with LAST ATI drivers installed, but i can't enable effects, and all the graphic interface is slow... really slow...like Webbrowsing, and whatelse
[18:58] <MeNoS> adelie ?
[18:58] <DRebellion> bastones: what is the model number?
[18:58] <altra22>  yes iam sure
[18:59] <fatih> How can i give write permission for my current user for var/www folder?
[18:59] <MeNoS> am confused with this  When installing Javacomm, copy lib/libLinuxSerialParallel.so to both the
[18:59] <MeNoS>    jre/bin/ directory and the jre/lib/<arch>/ directory, where <arch> is the
[18:59] <MeNoS>    architecture of your platform.
[18:59] <bastones> Hi DRebellion: one minute while i check
[18:59] <Starnestommy> fatih: chmod?
[18:59] <mikebeecham> hi can someone help me to update freetype?
[18:59] <CMA> bod_: sorry for bother you, and for my bad english
[18:59]  * zLoSteR Hi :) Can anyone tell me how to put different wallpaper on my 5 desktops I am with Compiz Fusion
[18:59] <carlesoriol> Can I enter something in the grup to create a boot from cd?
[18:59] <magnetron> hi! how do i enable the AAC support in ffmpeg?
[18:59] <DRebellion> fatih: chmod u+w /var/www
[18:59] <bod_> CMA,   its ok, im here to help with anything i can
[19:00] <usr13> altra22: edit /etc/resolv.conf  and add lines: nameserver 192.168.1.1  (on one line, and) nameserver xxx.xxx.xx.xx  (on another line.)
[19:00] <CMA> somone knows why?
[19:00] <bod_> zLoSteR, thats a question for the compiz guys,.#compiz-fusion
[19:00] <bastones> DRebellion: Sorry for such a question but where would I find the model number? :P I tried looking on the USB adapter itself with no luck
[19:00] <Skrux> brobostigon: it is not compatible :(
[19:00] <xenthro> q: is there a way to switch to 16-bit graphics without reconfiguring xorg?
[19:01] <usr13> altra22: But first, set an IP address manually and see if you can connect to the router, (either via browser, or via ping 192.168.1.1)
[19:01] <H_O_S> Hello ! gksu "update-manager -c" does not bring up the possibility of upgading from dapper to edgy why is this ?
[19:01] <zLoSteR> ok i will try there :} thanks
[19:01] <altra22> usr13 what about network manager it have to be restarted ??
[19:01] <Skrux> brobostigon: I must to try to install quake3 another time
[19:01] <DRebellion> bastones: on mine its writen on the bottom of the box, on a barcode sticker
[19:01] <fatih> DRebellion: still is not letting me to write into that folder
[19:01] <bod_> fatih, use chmod 775
[19:02] <Starnestommy> or 755
[19:02] <bod_> fatih,  755 probably safer
[19:02] <bod_> Starnestommy, ta
[19:02] <usr13> altra22: If you set it manually, no, do not restart the network or you will loose it all.
[19:02] <fatih> bod_: same problem
[19:02] <usr13> altra22: Are you sure the dhcp server is running on the router?  And, are you sure the essid is boradcasted from the router?
[19:03] <fatih> bod_: is saying that i dont have enough permission to write
[19:03] <bod_> fatih,  what are you trying to do exactly?
[19:03] <fatih> bod_: i am trying to save my php files under www folder
[19:03] <bastones> can't find anything on the box... would it be on the USB adapter itself?
[19:03] <fatih> bod_: or copy
[19:03] <DRebellion> bastones: not on mine
[19:04] <DRebellion> bastones: ok, what have you tried so far?
[19:04] <altra22> Yes because now iam on the router and there is no routers nearby
[19:04] <bod_> fatih, make sure you use sudo chmod 775 on the php's and the folder
[19:04] <H_O_S> gksu "update-manager -c" does not bring up the possibility of upgading from dapper to edgy why is this ?
[19:04] <altra22> Yes because now iam on the router and there is no routers nearby
[19:04] <TIRC_8758> cia a tutti
[19:04] <Kraven_> howdy all. I'm stuck in dependency hell. can someone help me out w/ burning?
[19:04] <TIRC_8758> !list
[19:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:05] <fatih> bod_: i used like this   ' sudo chmod 775 /var/www
[19:05] <bastones> oh
[19:05] <bastones> I found the model number, is that what you need?
[19:05] <fatih> bod_: wrong?
[19:05] <bod_> fatih,  no thats fine
[19:05] <fatih> bod_: so still same
[19:05] <bod_> fatih,  but you might need to do the same for your php files
[19:05] <DRebellion> bastones: what is it?
[19:06] <altra22> usr13 i will try to test the commands i will be back ;) thx again
[19:06] <fatih> bod_: hmm. so this is a big problem. coz i am creating them now and testing under localhost
[19:06] <TIRC_8758> !command
[19:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:06] <bod_> fatih, no, its little
[19:06] <bastones> F5D7O50 I believe or o5o or 050
[19:06] <bod_> fatih, which ever program your using to make them, load the program with sudo,. eg sudo gedit
[19:07] <bastones> i think its F5D7050
[19:07] <H_O_S> however gksu "update-manager -c -d"works. i doubt i can update from dapper to gutsy ?
[19:07] <DRebellion> bastones: i have F5D7050uk
[19:07] <fatih> bod_: ahh i forgot this totally
[19:07] <debaser_> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed as the only os on my desktop now i want to install windows without removing ubuntu is this possible if so how do i do it?
[19:07] <brunner> you guys know of a GUI tool that will do a search and replace in multiple files?
[19:07] <bod_> fatih, ok,. lemme no if it helps
[19:07] <bastones> yes that's the one I have... except its without the uk at the end...
[19:08] <bastones> what would I have to do to make it work on my Ubuntu computer?
[19:08] <usr13> debaser_: If you left the first partition for MS Windows, yes, if not... no
[19:08] <DRebellion> bastones: it worked out of the box for me
[19:08] <MM2> I have in a NTFS partition folder "Häävideo" and it is hidden in Ubuntu. How I can access that folder in Ubuntu?
[19:08] <adelie> brunner: because that is technical, that is a much mire appropriate thing to do from a command line, but if you want to IM me, I'd be happy to show you how / give some specific examples for whatever you are trying to do
[19:08] <bod_> MM2, try ctrl+H
[19:09] <debaser_> usr13, i dont think i left any on the first partition
[19:09] <DRebellion> bastones: ok, i'll try and help you debug it
[19:09] <adelie> MM2: hit Ctrl-h
[19:09] <DRebellion> bastones: can you describe in detail what you have tried so far?
[19:09] <usr13> debaser_: If you left the master drive for MS Windows yes.  If your computer will boot to the second drive, yes. (Depends on the hardware too.)
[19:09] <magnetron> hi! how do i enable the AAC support in ffmpeg?
[19:09] <brunner> adelie: I appreciate that.  I was going to use perl, but I was afraid of messing things up.  I'll PM you.
[19:09] <fatih> bod_: works perfect. thank you very much for hint
[19:09] <adelie> MM2: files are hidden by prepending them with a period
[19:09] <bastones> oh, really? I'll go try now, would I have to go to Networking to setup a wireless connection, or install it on the Ubuntu computer from the CD installation. Not sure if it'll work as it states the sys requirements windows 98+
[19:09] <bod_> fatih, no problems (donations welcome) lol
[19:09] <jughead> How do I download a website to edit? I need to download, make changes, and republish a web page
[19:09] <bastones> I've not tried any steps like drivers or anything, just read around to find a solution
[19:10] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me with an answer to this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73
[19:10] <bod_> jughead, fttp acces
[19:10] <debaser_> usr13, i have two hard disks, one ntfs and the other for ubuntu alone what if i interchange these hard disks will it work then?
[19:10] <usr13> debaser_:  Is / are your hard drive(s) IDE or ISA or SATA?
[19:10] <ejer> jughead: filezilla or gftp are FTP programs which let you download and upload from web server
[19:10] <Skrux> brobostigon ?
[19:10] <debaser_> usr13, IDE
[19:11] <usr13> debaser_: Sure, if you change out the hard drive, it will boot what ever's on them.
[19:11] <DRebellion> bastones: use system > administration > network to set up the options. are you using encryption?
[19:11] <jughead> ok thanks bod_ and ejer
[19:11] <Skrux> did you copy all the contents of the cd in a directory and executed the .exe with wine only ?
[19:11] <debaser_> ok thanks usr13
[19:11] <bod_> jughead, no probs
[19:11] <pyrops> hi i have a problem with my sound.. there is a red X on top of the speaker icon
[19:11] <debaser_> but tell me usr13 how can i boot from ubuntu again? how will dual boot work?
[19:11] <bod_> Does anyone feel brave enough to help with this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4224157#post4224157
[19:11] <usr13> pyrops: That mean's that it is muted.
[19:12] <H_O_S> hmm it seems nobody ever updates his version with update-manager ?
[19:12] <usr13> pyrops: Un-mute it.
[19:12] <bod_> pyrops, means your sound is either not configured or muted
[19:12] <WillOne> what I have done is: created 2x 25gb partitions. One for XP, which is installed and running fine. Now I've started Ubuntu Live and selected the Partition with ext3 file system and now it says Mount Point, what do I select?
[19:12] <debaser_> usr13, if i do that will i still be able to boot to ubuntu
[19:12] <rrittenhouse> I cant install Flash running Gutsy on 64bit.. I was told I need to edit the postinst file under the control.tar.gz file but im having problems re-adding it to the archive.. HELP! :)
[19:12] <bastones> DRebellion: I am using an older version of Ubuntu which I'll update later on... is it the same one by going to sys configuration (under Computer) then Networking or Computer>network?
[19:12] <usr13> debaser_: If you do what?
[19:13] <bod_> rrittenhouse, no you dont,.pm il walk you through it
[19:13] <pyrops> its not muted, it mentions that there is something wrong with the GStream ??
[19:13] <adelie> brunner: still there?
[19:13] <cosmodad> WillOne: if you want your Ubuntu system to reside in just one partition (likely if you are a newbie), choose / as mountpoint.
[19:13] <debaser_> usr13, if i change the slave hard disk to the master and vice versa
[19:13] <WillOne> cosmodad, I wanted a dual boot and yeah, I'm a newbie.
[19:13] <DRebellion> bastones: i recommend you update to the latest ubuntu before trying anything as it may fix your problem to get the latest drivers etc.
[19:13] <usr13> debaser_: No, if you change from slave to master or from master to slave it will NOT work.
[19:13] <brobostigon> cosmodad: you always need / and swap, so always two partitions.
[19:13] <ejer> bod_: i would just take splash out of grub options for easy fix
[19:14] <cosmodad> brobostigon: yeah sure
[19:14] <bastones> okay ill do that now and get back to you... thanks
[19:14] <neozen> personally I've always felt that /home should be split off on a desktop machine
[19:14] <cosmodad> brobostigon: well technically you don't need swap
[19:14] <debaser_> usr13, then there is no way that i can use both os now?
[19:14] <adelie> rrittenhouse: a very simple solution, though not ideal, is to install kvm to give yourself a vitrual 32 bit enviroment
[19:14] <usr13> debaser_: If your computer will boot slave or master, you can change bios settings to boot one or the other.
[19:14] <cosmodad> WillOne: see what brobostigon says: one more for swap is advisable too
[19:14] <neozen> and var as well on a server
[19:14] <ejer> rrittenhouse: what error are you getting?
[19:14] <avery_> my compiz wont start after I install this startup manager and change my startup logo
[19:14] <debaser_> usr13, ok i understand
[19:14] <WillOne> I don't know what that is :(
[19:15] <WillOne> I'm a real newbie.
[19:15] <rrittenhouse> ejer, If i try and install flash it just dosent "work"
[19:15] <adelie> Bruners: you still there?
[19:15] <usr13> debaser_: Linux will boot from slave or master.  MS Windows will only boot from master, (unless you have bios that will boot slave)
[19:15] <cosmodad> WillOne: unless already done, you should create another partition for swap space. And choose the big space for / as I said.
[19:15] <pyrops> usr13; apparantly i need to install GStream plugins
[19:15] <ejer> rrittenhouse: this is a known bug... what info are you using to fix it
[19:15] <kaz1nsky> are there any opensource drivers for ati cards better than the ati drivers?
[19:15] <pyrops> how might that be done?
[19:15] <debaser_> usr13, how do i find out if i have that kind of bios?
[19:15] <zkjellberg_> What can I do to maximize battery life on a laptop? Would using something like XFCE help conserve battery life?
[19:15] <Jockeo> What application do you recommend to burn CD's and DVD's?
[19:16] <cosmodad> WillOne: swap space is hard-disk space used for paging when running out of RAM. Windows does something similar but uses a file instead of an entire partition.
[19:16] <ejer> debaser_: you can boot windows from grub
[19:16] <bod_> ejer, but i want the loading bars
[19:16] <avery_> anybody have driver for v-gear webcam
[19:16] <cosmodad> WillOne: just create another partition and type it as swap space.
[19:16] <rrittenhouse> ejer, A friend of mine had to edit the postinst file under the control.tar.gz and edit the md5sums's etc but i cannot get the file back INTO the control.tar.gz
[19:16] <ejer> Jockeo: i like k3b
[19:16] <WillOne> Okay.
[19:16] <debaser_> ejer, even if windows is on the slave?
[19:16] <MeNoS> install java on PPC64 arch ?
[19:16] <ejer> rrittenhouse: i would not do it this way
[19:16] <ejer> debaser_: yes
[19:16] <cosmodad> WillOne: how much RAM do you have?
[19:16] <WillOne> 1024
[19:16] <ejer> rrittenhouse: gimme a sec
[19:17] <DRebellion> zkjellberg_: well, yes as it uses less cpu time than something bigger like GNOME or KDE
[19:17] <freepenguin> hello
[19:17] <rrittenhouse> ejer, Its just how my friend sitting here did it but the way he did it actually inserted the file back into the archive.. it wont work here
[19:17] <debaser_> ejer, i already have ubuntu install. so how do i configure grub to do that?
[19:17] <Jockeo> ejer: It works on Gnome as well? (Just thinking of the K in the name)
[19:17] <adelie> brunner: oops, mispell. you there?
[19:17] <ejer> Jockeo: all kde apps work in gnome
[19:17] <Jockeo> ejer: ok thx!
[19:17] <zkjellberg_> DrRebellion, Are there any debian distros which are lightweight for that purpose?
[19:17] <MeNoS> I need help ??
[19:18] <Pici> !ask
[19:18] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:18] <ejer> rrittenhouse: this is how I fixed it, works fine for a few people http://pastebin.ca/876289
[19:18] <brobostigon> zkjellberg_: xubuntu
[19:18] <adelie> DRebellion: well, debian minimal is pretty small
[19:18] <brunner> adelie: yeah, sorry, I guess I need to register with NickServ first
[19:18] <MeNoS> Pici ! i wanna install java on a PPC64 arch ?
[19:18] <jlcarneiro_> Hello! Anybody knows why would Openoffice.org shows an .odt file with 61 pages on a machine (Gutsy) and with 66 pages on other machines (Windows and Gutsy)? On the first machine the only "printer" I have installed is CUPS-PDF.
[19:19] <ejer> jlcarneiro_: dif font sizes/spacing?
[19:19] <jlcarneiro_> no.
[19:19] <jlcarneiro_> same text same fonts
[19:19] <adelie> brunner: getting my PM's?
[19:19] <Pici> ejer: I've seen OOo come up with legal size paper as a default before, make sure that its set to letter.
[19:19] <pyrops> I need to install GStreamer plugins, how is it done???
[19:19] <ejer> poss
[19:19] <jlcarneiro_> It's set to A4 on all machines
[19:19] <brunner> no =/
[19:20] <usr13> jlcarneiro_: May be that you have paper size set wrong
[19:20]  * ejer bets on font differences
[19:20] <Pici> jlcarneiro_: or a4 ;), as long as its consistant.
[19:20] <parkin> http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/02/pcmaclinux-thumb.jpg
[19:20] <adelie> pyrops: install `ubuntu-restricted-packages` packake
[19:20] <bod_> !register | brunner     if you want to pm
[19:20] <ubotu> brunner     if you want to pm: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:20] <ejer> pyrops: you could search for gstreamer in synaptic
[19:20] <brunner> but I am registered, and it says I'm already identified
[19:20] <brunner> and yet, it seems I can't PM
[19:20] <zkjellberg_> Are there any lightweight Debian distros which are good with battery life? (All I need is a notepad and a simple browser.)
[19:21] <peter120980> can i update the nVidia drivers from the recovery command prompt, if so can you outline briefly what to do as im completely new to linux?
[19:21] <adelie> brunner: its me, sorry
[19:21] <bod_> ejer, play a file in totem and it will install gstreamer + extra plugins
[19:21] <ejer> bod_: only if that file uses a noninstalled codec
[19:21] <bastones> DRebellion: I can't update to the latest version as I havent got internet connection on my desktop as the wireless isn't working. I havent got any blank RW CDs... is there any other way to get the adapter working for my IC?
[19:21] <usr13> jlcarneiro_: Are you sure you are seeing same document on both machines?  (Look at file size and see if they are same.)
[19:21] <DRebellion> !minimal | zkjellberg_
[19:21] <ubotu> zkjellberg_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:21] <brunner> zkjellberg_: I would think that Ubuntu with powernowd (which comes by default) would be as good as any
[19:21] <bod_> ejer,  yer,.,. an flv does it fine
[19:21] <jlcarneiro_> ejer and Pici: I didn't change anything in the text. Just opened it... Could it be line spacing, fonts or page size?
[19:21] <ejer> zkjellberg: xfce
[19:21] <DRebellion> bastones: are you running gutsy (7.10)?
[19:21] <ejer> jlcarneiro_: it almost has to be
[19:22] <Bruners> adelie: ?
[19:22] <pyrops> adelie: they appear to be installed?!
[19:22] <jlcarneiro_> usr13: lol lol, yeah, I'm looking at the same (pendrive)
[19:22] <brunner> zkjellberg_: never mind, list to ubotu
[19:22] <brunner> listen*
[19:22] <bastones> No, I am running Ubuntu 4.1 I believe. I realize it is incredibily out-dated but I will be updating but I need an IC to do that
[19:22] <bastones> (on my desktop)
[19:22] <ejer> wow
[19:23] <adelie> brunner: sorry, my name is evidently already registered. one sec
[19:23] <brobostigon> zkjellberg: try as distro with enlightenment, there pretty light too.
[19:23] <ejer> congrats bastones! you have oldest ubuntu install i know of :)
[19:23] <bastones> lol
[19:23] <brunner> adante: okay, just PM me when you've got it
[19:23] <ejer> testament to good packaging
[19:23] <usr13> jlcarneiro_: I have no idea, but you could email the document to me and I'll look at it for you, and see if there's something weird about it.  That's all I know to do.
[19:23] <ubuntu_> hi
[19:24] <ozdeb> can anyone here help with installing ipw2200 on debian etch ?
[19:24] <ubuntu_> i haven't been following linux developments for the past while
[19:24] <ubuntu_> how reliable has ntfs-3g gotten?
[19:24] <DRebellion> bastones: erm... i don't think anybody would be prepared to help you with your problems on such an old version, sorry. I recommend you buy some CD RWs and burn gutsy to a disk and install it.
[19:24] <DRebellion> ubuntu_: i think its pretty reliable now
[19:24] <jeffMASTERflex> ubuntu_: reliable enough to use at home without any issues. I don't recommend it in a sensitive work environment though
[19:25] <pyrops> ejer : it seems that they are installed, i tried re installing but nothing happend
[19:25] <ubuntu_> what about for use as /home ?
[19:25] <usr13> bastones: What is  your problem?
[19:25] <ubuntu_> where there would be a lot of RW, mainly for movies and such
[19:25] <ejer> pyrops: what is problem
[19:25] <jlcarneiro_> When I have ONLY cups-pdf on a machine does it use default page sizes?
[19:25] <npodges> what's the best VM for desktop use?
[19:25] <jlcarneiro_> Or should I install a standard printer too?
[19:25] <jeffMASTERflex> ubuntu_: i don't recommend using an ntfs partition as your /home
[19:25] <usr13> bastones: Are you trying to connect to a wired network?
[19:26] <DRebellion> usr13: wireless
[19:26] <ejer> npodges: vmware-player for sinple stuff, vmware server for multiple machines, virtualbox for testing or as alternative to vmware-player
[19:26] <usr13> What wireless card?
[19:26] <bastones> usr13: wireless. My only option is to take the desktop downstairs, apply ethernet/usb connection, connect and update
[19:26] <usr13> bastones: What wireless card?
[19:26] <bastones> then sort out the next problems then
[19:26] <pyrops> ejer:  my sound doesnt work. on the speaker sign there is a red "x". when i click it says that i can disactivate the sound or install the plugins !??!
[19:26] <bastones> usr13: sorry not sure what your 'onna about there
[19:26] <usr13> bastones: Is the wireless card drivers loaded for it?
[19:27] <ejer> pyrops: sounds like sound card is not being recognized... can you get any sound from comp?
[19:27] <bastones> don't think so, whatever you mean
[19:27] <usr13> bastones: what does   iwconfig   say?
[19:27] <caminomaster> hi
[19:27] <DRebellion> bastones: he's running 4.1. can't get wireless usb adapter to work. i told him to upgrade to 7.10 with a cd.
[19:27] <ejer> bastones: you will not get it working without updating IMO
[19:27] <pyrops> ejer: before i updated the version it worked perfectly
[19:27] <ejer> pyrops: what version
[19:27] <bod_> usr13, its a belkin F5D7050 he's havin probs with
[19:27] <bastones> ill connect wired and update it...
[19:28] <usr13> bastones: you would need fully supported wireless card.
[19:28] <ejer> that belkin stick works flawlessly in gutsy
[19:28] <caminomaster> i have an alcatel otc, I connected it through usb but it doesn't appear as storage device... what can i do?
[19:28] <pyrops> ejer: 7.10
[19:28] <usr13> bastones: good Idea
[19:28] <ejer> and i don't know if you can doa dist-upgrade from 4.1 > 7.1 :)
[19:28] <jlcarneiro_> Well, THANKS folks! I'll try to review my line spacing (although I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed)... :)
[19:28] <ejer> pyrops: looks like update may have broken sound
[19:28] <jeffMASTERflex> that upgrade will fail horribly
[19:28] <pyrops> ejer: is there a way to fix it?
[19:28] <DRebellion> ejer: yes, i have one
[19:29] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680938  thanks
[19:29] <ejer> pyrops: depends what issue is... need to troubleshoot
[19:29] <bod_> usr13,  heres bastones iwconfig : http://pastebin.com/d2db9b693
[19:29] <ejer> pyrops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:30] <adelie42> brunner: ok, damn, sorry
[19:30] <bod_> a cookie for the first person who can give me an answer :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4224157#post4224157
[19:30] <usr13> bod_: That's not bastones, that was from altra22
[19:30] <pyrops> ejer cheers
[19:31] <adelie42> brunner: registered
[19:31] <usr13> bod_: Or is he the same guy?
[19:31] <bod_> usr13, ooopps,.,.sorry,.,. im trying to be helpfull,.,.maybe i should sit back and be quie,.lol,.,.sorry
[19:31] <usr13> bod_: NP  :)
[19:31] <bod_> lol
[19:31] <bod_> ;)
[19:31] <adelie42> brunner: still there?
[19:32] <bod_> adelie42, that name isnt in the room
[19:32] <ejer> bod_: have you tried passing a vga= line to kernel
[19:32] <MOPPED> Im trying to run an XSLT translation using libxsltmod in python but its saying that my XLS isnt a stylesheet, can anyone have a look at my XLS to see if im missing anything or can suggest a better method?
[19:32] <adelie42> bod_: umm... I see it in the list
[19:33] <bod_> ejer, yer,. ive tried every possible combination of vga no.s for 800x600 and 1024x720
[19:33] <adelie42> bod_: betweem Bruners and brutopia
[19:33] <Nik0la0s> how do i knwo that mail command wokrs and sents mail successfully?
[19:33] <bod_> adelie42, oopps,.,.true,.,.sorry
[19:33] <adelie42> bod_: no worries  :)
[19:33] <DRebellion> Nik0la0s: send and email to someone and see if they get it
[19:33] <bod_> adelie42, im not doing very well today,.,.lol,.,.;)
[19:33] <ejer> Nik0la0s: send it to yourself? :)
[19:34] <Nik0la0s> gmail rejects it
[19:34] <DRebellion> Nik0la0s: as spam?
[19:34] <bod_> Nik0la0s, check the man page for a confirmation parameter
[19:34] <adelie42> !offtopic > adelie
[19:34] <adelie42> !offtopic > adelie42
[19:34] <Nik0la0s> can i try to send an mail to you?
[19:34] <bod_> adelie42, its #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <Nik0la0s> do you run a server?
[19:34] <bod_> Nik0la0s, bodssocks@yahoo.co.uk
[19:35] <Nik0la0s> thanks
[19:35] <adelie42> thanks
[19:35] <bod_> np
[19:35] <Nik0la0s> do i need to unsilall postfix?
[19:35] <crow_> hello
[19:35] <bod_> i dont know wot that means ,.
[19:35] <bod_> lol
[19:35] <crow_> how can we change .mp3 to .wma
[19:35] <bod_> Cromag, ello
[19:35] <crow_> ?
[19:35] <ejer> bod_: this is gutsy right
[19:35] <bod_> crow_, vlc player has a conversion tool in it
[19:35] <adelie42> crow_: uhh... you want to go FROM mp3 TO wma???
[19:35] <crow_> gutsy yes
[19:35] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ mail -s "hello friend" bodssocks@yahoo.co.uk
[19:36] <crow_> the problem
[19:36] <Byan> crow_: .... why?
[19:36] <flea> ouch
[19:36] <bod_> ejer, gutsy 7.10 amd64 with a Nvidia 7600gt gcard,.,.yer
[19:36] <ejer> bod_:  I added fbcon to the modules file in /etc/initramfs-tools and ran update-initramfs -u. from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454392&page=3
[19:36] <crow_> i cant lestin to mp3 on moto vtc
[19:36] <flea> why with a twist of lol
[19:36] <Nik0la0s> did you receive it?
[19:36] <DRebellion> crow_: what is moto vtc?
[19:36] <Byan> crow_: google is your friend btw
[19:36] <diosciry> hi
[19:36] <adelie42> crow_: what about ogg?
[19:36] <Byan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382969
[19:36] <Cromag> bod_: huh ?
[19:36] <adelie42> crow_: /vorbis
[19:36] <Nik0la0s> bod_, did it came?
[19:36] <adelie42> !vorbis
[19:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:36] <adelie42> !ogg
[19:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:36] <crow_> i can only listen didnt try oog
[19:36] <crow_> ogg
[19:36] <crow_> i'll try now
[19:37] <ejer> !info ogg
[19:37] <ubotu> Package ogg does not exist in gutsy
[19:37] <Byan> crow_: is the thing called anything else?
[19:37] <bod_> Nik0la0s, nope
[19:37] <DRebellion> !botabuse
[19:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:37] <bod_> Cromag, sorry,.,. tab completion ,.,.my bad
[19:37] <Nik0la0s> bod_, how cna i check what happend?
[19:37] <bod_> Nik0la0s, whats the command you use to send the mail?
[19:38]  * ejer spanks himself for abusing bot
[19:38] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ mail -s "hello friend" bodssocks@yahoo.co.uk
[19:38]  * bod_ thinks ejer should explain that link he just gave me
[19:38] <Nik0la0s> and some data
[19:38] <bod_> Nik0la0s, ok hang on
[19:38] <ejer> bod_: edit the file he says and add the word fbcon
[19:38] <Nik0la0s> yes
[19:38] <adelie42> ejer: it should come with any media encoder like mplayer. mp3 is patented in the US
[19:38] <bod_> ejer, kk will do in a sec
[19:39] <Nik0la0s> how can i uninstall postfix?
[19:39] <adelie42> ejer: which is why many media players don't support it if the devices was made in the US
[19:39] <BornToBe> n.it
[19:39] <bod_> nikolam, i dunno im afraid
[19:39] <ejer> sudo aptitude remove postfix Nik0la0s
[19:39] <ejer> adelie42: ?
[19:40] <ejer> oh ogg... I was trying to get ubotu to say what you had already called up ;)
[19:40] <brobostigon> !rockbox
[19:40] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[19:40] <shade052> is adding medibuntu repositories to ubuntu considered safe?
[19:41] <brobostigon> shade052: you should be fine
[19:41] <bod_> Nik0la0s, i dont no,. im afraid
[19:41] <DRebellion> shade052: morally, no. practically, yes.
[19:41] <crow_> ??
[19:41] <bod_> ejer, which file is he talking about?
[19:41] <Nik0la0s> damn
[19:41] <knofi> hi
[19:41] <Nik0la0s> ok bod_ pleas helep me send a normal mail
[19:41] <brunner> adelie42: my contact info is here: http://www.chrisbrunner.com/contact/
[19:41] <bod_> Nik0la0s, why not use thunderbird?
[19:41] <Nik0la0s> i have unistalled postfix
[19:42] <adelie42> ejer: mp3 is a patented (I agree software patents are stupid, but they exist) meaning for a media player like an ipod to support mp3, it must pay a royalty. using an mp3 decoder in the US without paying the royalty is illegal in the US... but with most things, people are usually only sued when they use the decoder illegally in a commercial product, like an ipod
[19:42] <Nik0la0s> no i need from cli
[19:42] <brunner> adelie42: screen names and all that
[19:42] <bod_> Nik0la0s, pm
[19:42] <brobostigon> shade052: in england installing software from medibuntu is safe, but in emerica and other countries it may be illegal to install packages from medibuntu
[19:42] <knofi> i get the error message "hostname: unknown host" when trying to compile a kernel
[19:42] <ubuntu_> any suggestions for naming my computer
[19:42] <knofi> whats wrong and how to correct?^^
[19:42] <ejer> / etc/initramfs-tools/modules bod_
[19:42] <bod_> ejer,  mods cheers
[19:42] <DRebellion> ubuntu_: <insertyournamehere>-ubuntu-desktop
[19:43] <ubuntu_> sounds too generic lol
[19:43] <shade052> brobostigon: k
[19:43] <ejer> adelie42: indeed :) luckily i live in canada
[19:43] <outsider12> hi there- I have tftp connection refused on ubuntu server edition. anyone familiar with tftp?
[19:43] <ejer> ubuntu_: types of hernias?
[19:43] <brobostigon> shade052: for example libdvdcss2 is not allowed in emerica,it illegal.
[19:44] <brobostigon> !dmca
[19:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmca - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:44] <phaedral> howdy; what to do when plug-n-play doesn't spot the usb stick I put in?
[19:44] <sexy> is there a way to force a certain display mode in live cd boot for ppc?
[19:44] <DRebellion> ubuntu_: ok then, how about....  <`cat /dev/random`> ??
[19:44] <zvi_to> hi, is there any way to format my whole hd or boot the ubuntu cd from grub??
[19:44] <adelie42> ejer: be sure to vote in this upcomming primary. big media in canada is trying to sneak a bill by that will change that legality... if they haven't already.
[19:44] <cps1966> !java
[19:44] <bod_> ejer, sorry im not too good with this,.,.,. error :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53888/
[19:45] <cps1966> ! java
[19:45] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[19:45] <ejer> adelie42: i help organize against this..
[19:45] <Pici> !politics | adelie42
[19:45] <ubotu> adelie42: Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you!
[19:45] <MrObvious> !offtopic
[19:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:45] <MrObvious> :)
[19:45] <bod_> lol
[19:46] <DRebellion> !lol | bod_
[19:46] <ubotu> bod_: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[19:46] <ejer> bod_: space between - and u ?
[19:46] <DRebellion> :P couldn't resist
[19:46] <Nik0la0s> WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME SEND AN EMAL FORM CLI?
[19:46] <Nik0la0s> IAM TRYIGN THIS FOR HOURS WITH NO LUCK
[19:46] <MrObvious> !caps | Nik0la0s
[19:46] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:46] <Nik0la0s> PLEASE
[19:46] <ejer> bod_: period after u
[19:46] <bod_> ejer, no it had full stop,.,.my bad
[19:46] <brobostigon> Nik0la0s: try pine
[19:47] <bod_> DRebellion, sorry
[19:47] <MrObvious> lol
[19:47] <Nik0la0s> ok i will but please tell do i need soem kind of MTA to send the mail
[19:47] <DRebellion> bod_: only joking ;)
[19:47] <sexy> hi
[19:47] <bod_> #;)
[19:47] <PriceChild> !info mutt | Nik0la0s
[19:47] <ubotu> nik0la0s: mutt (source: mutt): text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.15+20070412-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1057 kB, installed size 5196 kB
[19:47] <sexy> can anyone help me?
[19:47] <Nik0la0s> like sendmail or exim or
[19:47] <bod_> sexy, whats up
[19:47] <adelie42> geez, it IS significant that use of UBUNTU  universe packages are ILLEGAL in the US. back off
[19:47] <bod_> !anyone | sexy
[19:47] <sexy> i need to force a display mode at livecd boot
[19:47] <ubotu> sexy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:47] <Nik0la0s> just tied mutt it sid it cnt sent my mail
[19:48] <bod_> brb
[19:48] <DevLaVaca> I am trying to make a program (thunderbird) begin in workspace 2 on startup.  Is there a way to do this?
[19:48] <sexy> is there any way to set a resolution?
[19:48] <altra22> usr13 all the tips where right 100% but the connection manager reset the settings
[19:48] <outsider12> i have TFTP configured on ubuntu server, i can connect and transfer properly on itself and within local network, but on external network/internet i get connection timed out... any ideas?
[19:48] <astro76> !devilspie | DevLaVaca
[19:48] <ubotu> DevLaVaca: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[19:48] <MrObvious> sexy: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[19:48] <Nik0la0s> why mutt fails to sendmail?
[19:48] <ejer> sexy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer
[19:49] <MrObvious> outsider12: Perhaps you have a NAT router preventing you from using TFTP and you'll have to forward the port to your Ubuntu box.
[19:49] <mmmdlvii> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
[19:49] <ejer> sexy: check that
[19:49] <altra22> when i tried to ping my router i thought that it will run but connection manager Reset the settings !!!!!!
[19:49] <brobostigon> unop_: welcome sheffield-ite
[19:49] <sexy> im reading it now
[19:49] <ejer> sexy: forget that i mean
[19:49] <DevLaVaca> thank you
[19:49] <Nik0la0s> help
[19:49] <outsider12> mr.obvious - it is sitting on the edge with static ip. no nat
[19:49] <sexy> thats exactly what i wanna do
[19:50] <mikebeecham> I dont know whether this is an Ubuntu or Wine issue.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680938
[19:50] <mikebeecham> can someone help?
[19:50] <outsider12> Mr. 0bvious - I can see the daemon logs and the devices hitting the log, but it wont serve the files
[19:50] <bod_> ejer, YAY!!!! EJER GETS A COOKIE!!!!!!
[19:50] <MrObvious> outsider12: IDK if TFTP will go outside of networks anyway. It might be blocked by your ISP and you may have to set up FTP.
[19:50] <ejer> sexy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124036 but he spelled quiet wrong
[19:50] <Nik0la0s> why mutt fails to send my mail?
[19:50] <ejer> bod_: :)
[19:50] <Nik0la0s> why mail also fails?
[19:50] <crow_> doesn't play ogg
[19:50] <MrObvious> outsider12: It's one of those protocols that may be like ARP, only within a segment of a network.
[19:51] <zvi_to> hi there, is there any way to format my whole hd or boot the ubuntu cd from grub?? thx a lot\
[19:51] <crow_> mobile dont play ogg
[19:51] <sexy> but i need to be able to have a setting like "live 1650x1080"
[19:51] <bod_> ejer,  cheers dude,. im gonna add that link to my forum post,.,. LEGEND!!
[19:51] <sexy> im noob :>
[19:51] <ejer> Nik0la0s: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt
[19:51] <crow_> so
[19:51] <brobostigon> Nik0la0s: wikipeia has a large list of cli email progs,
[19:51] <MrObvious> crow_: Huh? That makes no sense. Please put a coherant sentence all on one line.
[19:51] <ejer> nice bod, spread the knowledge
[19:51] <Nik0la0s> ejer, is it simeple and straightforward?
[19:51] <crow_> how can i convert it to wma
[19:51] <brobostigon> Nik0la0s: i mean wikipedia
[19:51] <bastones> Hello... I have tried adding an ethernet & USB cable to connect to the internet with my Ubuntu desktop and it won
[19:52] <ejer> Nik0la0s: you may want ssmtp
[19:52] <bastones> whoops
[19:52] <MrObvious> crow_: Convert OGG to WMA? I'm not sure. I've done MP3s before.
[19:52] <crow_> no
[19:52] <crow_> mp3 to wma
[19:52] <bastones> won't connect, I have tried adding an ethernet network but it keeps crashing when I activate it
[19:52] <ejer> crow_: I don't think you will be doing that with ubuntu tools
[19:52] <crow_> any hints :D
[19:52] <Nik0la0s> Mutt has mail-transport-agent as a dependency which means if you don't have a Mail Transport Agent installed on your system and you install Mutt an MTA will also be installed
[19:52] <outsider12> Mr. 0bvious - any reccomendations, its wierd that solarwinds tftp server works great, but on ubuntu it doesnt work
[19:52] <DRebellion> bastones: I *strongly* recommend you burn gutsy (7.10) to a cd and do a clean install onto your computer.
[19:52] <MrObvious> crow_: WMA isn't that great of a format anyway. MP3s work on everything so I'd just leave it alone.
[19:53] <ejer> crow_: that is a windows codec, and writing it will have to be done in windows IMO
[19:53] <MrObvious> outsider12: Read what the bot sends you for suggestions on your own FTP server:
[19:53] <ejer> mp3 is way to go
[19:53] <Darius> could u please tell mie where the German Ubuntu channel is to be found?
[19:53] <sexy> ejer
[19:53] <crow_> thank you
[19:53] <MrObvious> !ftpd > outsider12
[19:53] <Nik0la0s> ejer, problem is i cant test it
[19:53] <astro76> !de | Darius
[19:53] <ubotu> Darius: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:53] <Nik0la0s> cause gmail rejects localhost mails
[19:53] <sexy> Boot from the CD and you should see the boot menu. Pick the maximum VGA mode in the list (normally F3 for the vga mode and you should see a list, then go down to the max one)
[19:53] <sexy> f3 does nothing
[19:53] <Darius> #ubuntu-de
[19:53] <sexy> im on ppc
[19:53] <sexy> :o
[19:53] <sexy> old hardware too
[19:53] <sexy> mac g4
[19:54] <bod_> !enter | sexy
[19:54] <ubotu> sexy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:54] <ejer> Nik0la0s: they should go through fine
[19:54] <Darius> thank you, bye
[19:54] <ejer> i send email to gmail from my server all the time
[19:54] <outsider12> Mr. 0bvious - thanks i check it out. tftp is not listed on the bot msg though
[19:54] <sexy> k bod_
[19:54] <Nik0la0s> ok then ill try this echo "Test" | mutt -s Hello nikos1337@gmail.com
[19:54] <MrObvious> outsider12: YW. Sorry it wasn't the answer you were looking for.
[19:54] <bod_> sexy, sorry,. just to keep flooding down .,.,.,.:)
[19:55] <MrObvious> outsider12: Maybe someone else later one will have an idae.
[19:55] <titusg> I'm trying to setup firefox with wine for the director plugin - I installed the plugin but everytime I open a page with a director movie in it ffox crashes
[19:55] <MrObvious> *idea
[19:55] <comicinker> I have a problem: creating a tar archive from nautilus results in 2.2 GB archives maximum only. I expected 20GB. I use ext3 with enough free disk space
[19:55] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$  echo "Test" | mutt -s Hello nikos1337@gmail.com
[19:55] <Nik0la0s> Usage: sendmail -f from@address.com -h relayhost [OPTIONS] (use -H for help)
[19:55] <Nik0la0s> what now?!
[19:55] <bod_> Nik0la0s, dont make me !enter you
[19:55] <bod_> ;)
[19:55] <MrObvious> titusg: Try #winehq
[19:55] <Nik0la0s> huh?
[19:56] <titusg> MrObvious: thanks, will do
[19:56] <Nik0la0s> why  my exampel doesnt work?
[19:56] <bastones> DRepllion: thank god I found two blank CDs
[19:56] <bod_> lol
[19:56] <bod_> sorry
[19:56] <ejer> Nik0la0s: you need exim and mailx installed as well... how did you install mutt
[19:56] <MrObvious> titusg: YW
[19:57] <Nik0la0s> ejer, apt-get install mutt
[19:57] <outsider12> mr. 0bvious - thanks appreciate the help, i will stay on line
[19:57] <ejer> Nik0la0s: some ISPs block port 25
[19:57] <noneo> Hi all. I have my friend's windows disk attached to my Linux box. He has MBR virus. How to remove it from Linux?
[19:57] <ejer> Nik0la0s: in that case you need to send the mail to their mail relay first
[19:57] <bastones> the thing I'm downloading from ubuntu.com is an .iso extsn, do I just burn it directly onto a CD or...?
[19:57] <Nik0la0s> ejer, how do you propose ill end a test mail then?
[19:58] <bod_> Nik0la0s, sudo apt-get install mailx && sudo apt-get install exim        to get the other things you need
[19:58] <ejer> Nik0la0s: send it internally first to make sure things work
[19:58] <Nik0la0s> ejer, internally toi what address?
[19:58] <ejer> then find out your ISP's mail relay, or set up exim to send via gmail smtp
[19:58] <bod_> Nik0la0s, to you!
[19:58] <Nik0la0s> what my mail address?
[19:59] <bod_> Nik0la0s, yes
[19:59] <ejer> Nik0la0s: to test internally you will need to be able to receive mail
[19:59] <Nik0la0s> nik@localhost.localdomain
[19:59] <Nik0la0s> ?
[19:59] <ejer> ie you need a mail server like postfix
[19:59] <bod_> Nik0la0s, just send it to your email address
[19:59] <Nik0la0s> to gmail?
[19:59] <ejer> bod_: he needs something listening on port 25
[19:59] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ echo "Test" | mail -s "hello friend" bodssocks@yahoo.co.u
[20:00] <bod_> ejer, this is way confusing,.,.set up thunderbird is my suggestion
[20:00] <Nik0la0s> bod check it out
[20:00] <Nik0la0s> did it came?
[20:00] <ejer> bod_: that is not a server
[20:00] <ejer> will not help at all
[20:00] <ejer> Nik0la0s: http://code.mogrify.org/2006/01/03/using-mutt-with-gmail/?year=2006&monthnum=01&day=03&name=using-mutt-with-gmail&page= look at SMTP command section
[20:00] <bod_> Nik0la0s, echo is a terminal command to print a word
[20:00] <Nik0la0s> bod did the mail came?
[20:01] <ejer> but this is slightly complex stuff... especially if his port is blocked
[20:01] <bod_> Nik0la0s, nope,.,. you need to set up pop to send and smtp to recieve
[20:01] <ejer> then nothing you send direct will go through
[20:01] <Nik0la0s> here is says this
[20:01] <ejer> smtp to send rather
[20:01] <lenov> connect #arad
[20:01] <Nik0la0s> Mutt has mail-transport-agent as a dependency which means if you don't have a Mail Transport Agent installed on your system and you install Mutt an MTA will also be installed
[20:01] <bod_> Nik0la0s, why dont you just use thunderbird/gmail/evolution?
[20:01] <Nik0la0s> i want from cli
[20:02] <MrObvious> hello everyone
[20:02] <ejer> bod_: how does that help
[20:02] <bod_> ejer,  cause then he can use email
[20:02] <Kibbles> anyone know why i lose icons in open office when i customize theme?
[20:02] <ejer> you still have to configure tbird to send/receive which is exact same settings for mutt
[20:02] <Nik0la0s> WHY CANT I SENT AN EMAIL?
[20:02] <ejer> mutt is a mail client just like tbird
[20:02] <MarcoPau> Hey I get this message in syslog when trying to print ERROR: Module ppdev does not exist in /proc/modules. In cups I get /usr/lib/cups/backend/mfp failed
[20:02] <bod_> ejer,  yer but thunderbird setup wizard does that in 1 page
[20:03] <Nik0la0s> how many houts do i ahev to keep trying?
[20:03] <ejer> Nik0la0s: cause your ports are blocked for last time :)
[20:03] <backz> how I add new locales to my ubuntu ?
[20:03] <Nik0la0s> ejer, how do you know?
[20:03] <jeffMASTERflex> bod_: dude, he wants to use a cli client.
[20:03] <DRebellion> !locale | backz
[20:03] <ubotu> backz: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[20:03] <ejer> bod_: ok... so he still has to have all settings, just enters them in GUI rather than CLI
[20:03] <bod_> jeffMASTERflex, oh,.,. right,.,. confused,.sorry
[20:03] <ejer> Nik0la0s: my best guess based on some years troubleshooting ;)
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> ejer, my ports are blocked?
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> i allow all outgoing traffic
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> through the router
[20:04] <ejer> look at your ISPs service info
[20:04] <ejer> it is not your side, it is your internet provider
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> ejer, its not irc problem
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> its soemthign with ubuntu
[20:04] <ejer> most of them block port 25
[20:04] <jamiejackson> why does nautilus have such a hard time opening a folder sometimes, when i can browse through it via CLI just fine? (this is an smbmounted resource that i'm talking about, this time). btw, konqueror loads it up right away. also, this is not an isolated incident. seems to happen all the time. (gutsy)
[20:04] <Nik0la0s> ejer, its not that
[20:04] <ompaul> Nik0la0s, install and configure postfix
[20:04] <ompaul> !postfix
[20:04] <ubotu> postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer
[20:05] <ejer> ok Nik0la0s!
[20:05] <Kibbles> Nik0la0s: i doubt it's your ports, actually. which ubuntu are you running, and did you just install?
[20:05] <DRebellion> jamiejackson: by "hard time" do you mean slow? or does it error out?
[20:05] <Nik0la0s> Kibbles, Hardy
[20:05] <adelie42> jamiejackson: i've had the same "problem" nautilus is really slow at times for no particular reason
[20:05] <bod_> Nik0la0s, hardy is only in alpha
[20:05] <ejer> very simple test, try and telnet to port 25 somewhere, this is not brain surgery hehe
[20:05] <Nik0la0s> i know but that not the problem here!
[20:06] <jamiejackson> DRebellion: i'll let you know. i'm going to try opening it now... (i haven't had the patience to let it sit yet)
[20:06] <jeffMASTERflex> Nik0la0s:  you need to hit up ubntu+1 or something. hardy is alpha
[20:06] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ telnet www.libver.gr 25
[20:06] <Nik0la0s> Trying 194.63.208.13...
[20:06] <Nik0la0s> jeff being alpha is not the problem
[20:06] <bod_> Nik0la0s, what makes you think that?
[20:06] <Pici> !hardy | Nik0la0s
[20:06] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:06] <ejer> i think smtp works in gutsy
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> Trying 209.85.129.109...
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> Connected to gmail-smtp.l.google.com.
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> Escape character is '^]'.
[20:07] <shade052> any good download accelarators for ubuntu?
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> port s are not a problem
[20:07] <bod_> !enter | Nik0la0s
[20:07] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> ok folks, why mutt doesnt sent the mail?
[20:07] <L3ttuc3> there is no such thing as a download accelerator. shade052 you probbaly want something like flashgot with d4x.
[20:07] <backz> how to set locales on gusty? I cant found "localeconf" package
[20:07] <calimer-> I'm interested in getting some free educational software that lets kids design their own games into ubuntu, does anyone know who I could talk to about that?
[20:07] <Nik0la0s> tell me step bys tep what to try
[20:08] <ejer> what does log say Nik0la0s - is mail going out?
[20:08] <L3ttuc3> then again, that's just my opinion.
[20:08] <Nik0la0s> ejer, cat /var/log/mail.log ?
[20:08] <ejer> shade052: downthemall for firefox (extension)
[20:08] <ejer> just like flashgot
[20:08] <DRebellion> !edubuntu | calimer (maybe this will help?)
[20:08] <ubotu> calimer (maybe this will help?): Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[20:08] <Nik0la0s> Jan 28 21:46:01 dell nbSMTP[10567]: Something went wrong. Mail NOT sent. Activate debug for more info
[20:08] <Nik0la0s> Jan 28 21:55:03 dell nbSMTP[10650]: nbSMTP does not support the -o arguments from sendmail, ignoring them
[20:08] <ejer> now you are getting somewhere
[20:08] <calimer> thank you DRebellion
[20:08] <shade052> L3ttuc3: i mean a download client that make multiple connections and hence give good speeds!
[20:09] <Nik0la0s> ejer, tell em your mail address plz to try again
[20:09] <ejer> 42info+nik0test@gmail.com
[20:09] <jeffMASTERflex> shade052: wget is pretty good.
[20:09] <L3ttuc3> shade052 i was personally using d4x and flashgot before my ubuntu install died on me (lousy usb hard disk).
[20:09] <manlymatt83> Is there an easy way to disable ALL sounds my laptop MIGHT make other than music?
[20:09] <Nik0la0s> ejer, huh?
[20:09] <jinbatsu> any one have install perfect for VHCS on ubuntu 7.04 ?
[20:10] <manlymatt83> like the backspace at a shell beeps (I can turn that off with xset b off)
[20:10] <manlymatt83> but there are a bunch of others
[20:10] <manlymatt83> and I hate them
[20:10] <shade052> thabks, all
[20:10] <bod_> !enter | manlymatt83
[20:10] <ubotu> manlymatt83: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:10] <DRebellion> hey, i'm looking at the manual page for dh_installmenu (man dh_installmenu) and its telling me to see also the manual for ".156.91.70] has joined #ubuntu
[20:10] <manlymatt83> bod_: sorry
[20:10] <ejer> manlymatt83: look at profile settings in terminal program
[20:10] <bod_> no probs
[20:10] <DRebellion> aww crap
[20:10] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ echo "test" | mutt -s "hello friend" 42info+nik0test@gmail.com
[20:10] <DRebellion> telling me to see the manual for "menufile"
[20:10] <Nik0la0s> pleese check your mail ejer
[20:11] <manlymatt83> ejer: that disables the backspace, sure
[20:11] <DRebellion> this page doesn't exist in my system. i think there may be a package i need to install?
[20:11] <jamiejackson> DRebellion: jamiejackson: by "hard time" do you mean slow? or does it error out? <-- i don't know if i'd call it slow as much as i'd say it just doesn't work. it hangs nautilus. i don't think i ever get an error. i seem to have to sudo killall nautilus to get nautilus back
[20:11] <jeffMASTERflex> manlymatt83: to disable the system beep, go to System/Preferences/Sound and disable the system beep
[20:11] <ejer> manlymatt83: there are system bells, and system sounds
[20:11] <ejer> nada Nik0la0s
[20:11] <manlymatt83> But what about hte sound like when I detatch from my docking station?
[20:11] <Nik0la0s> ejer, ok can we see why?
[20:12] <henri1> Hey.. I'm on a live cd right now, about to install.. Linux could be installed on a logical partition and still boot right?
[20:12] <Nik0la0s> ejer, tell em what to try to see what went wrong
[20:12] <astro76> henri1: yes it doesn't matter
[20:12] <henri1> have'nt really understood the big difference between primary and logical I guess
[20:12] <ejer> Nik0la0s: your mail log
[20:12] <henri1> astro: Ok.. Thanks
[20:12] <Nik0la0s> Jan 28 21:55:03 dell nbSMTP[10650]: nbSMTP does not support the -o arguments from sendmail, ignoring them
[20:12] <astro76> henri1: mostly historical, except some systems like windows demand to be primary
[20:13] <ejer> Nik0la0s: it would be good to specify the FROM address as one that exists so you get bounces if they do go out
[20:13] <shade052> exit
[20:13] <henri1> ok... So if I'm going to install windows later on, I'll have to make that a primary partition
[20:13] <Nik0la0s> ejer, how do i do that?
[20:13] <ejer> Nik0la0s: man mutt ?
[20:13] <henri1> what about filesystem... Ext 3 is the way to go ?
[20:14] <astro76> henri1: not sure if it still matters but I will typically make it the first primary
[20:14] <Nik0la0s> nik@dell:~$ echo "test" | mutt -s "hello friend" 42info+nik0test@gmail.com
[20:14] <Nik0la0s>  tellm what to add here
[20:14] <astro76> henri1: yes ext3
[20:14] <Nik0la0s> -f ?
[20:14] <DRebellion> henri1: yep
[20:14] <noneo> Hello everybody. Virus in Master Boot Sector. How to remove?
[20:14] <henri1> ok.. Thanks.. Great help here.. :-)
[20:14] <varsendaggr> hey how do i disable Xgl and go back to my old x server?
[20:14] <PriceChild> noneo, virus?
[20:14] <noneo> Yep.
[20:15] <PriceChild> noneo, do you mean record rather than sector?
[20:15] <ejer> noneo: wipe the drive totally
[20:15] <PriceChild> noneo, is this to do with windows
[20:15] <ejer> noneo: there are other ways, but this is what I would do
[20:15] <noneo> Yes, but I attached it to my Linux box.
[20:15] <Nik0la0s> HELP DAMN TI HELP
[20:15] <Nik0la0s> iam going crazy bwith this ubuntu
[20:15] <PriceChild> !patience | Nik0la0s
[20:15] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:15] <bod_> !shout | Nik0la0s
[20:15] <ubotu> Nik0la0s: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:15] <astro76> Nik0la0s: caps, attitude, patience, etc...
[20:15] <jinbatsu> please any one, have installed VHCS2 on Ubuntu 7.04?
[20:15] <Nik0la0s> i casnt
[20:15] <Kibbles> has any1 lost his taskbar icons in open office afte customizing a theme?
[20:15] <Nik0la0s> ia hve 3 hours with this'
[20:16] <DRebellion> Nik0la0s: try enabling debug mode like it said in the log
[20:16] <astro76> Nik0la0s: canonical offers very good paid support that can meet your deadlines
[20:16] <bod_> noneo, pm for windows prob
[20:16] <recon> is there a torrent for ubuntu disks?
[20:16] <jamiejackson> why does nautilus have such a hard time opening a folder sometimes, when i can browse through it via CLI just fine? (this is an smbmounted resource that i'm talking about, this time). btw, konqueror loads it up right away. also, this is not an isolated incident. seems to happen all the time. i try to open the folder, and nautilus hangs. i have to run killall nautilus, and even then, i still can't get to the mounted resource. any ideas? th
[20:16] <Pici> Nik0la0s: We can't give you all the answers, you need to be willing to try some things yourself.
[20:16] <PriceChild> !torrents | bod_
[20:16] <ubotu> bod_: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[20:16] <ejer> jinbatsu: i doubt anyone here has used it
[20:16] <recon> never mind, found it.
[20:16] <noneo> bod_: pm?
[20:16] <bod_> PriceChild, wrong person
[20:16] <jeffMASTERflex> Nik0la0s: also, using a supported OS in it's correct IRC channel might help also
[20:16] <PriceChild> whoops
[20:16] <Kibbles> Nik0la0s: join #nikolas
[20:16] <Nik0la0s> tell em what to do step bys tep
[20:16] <Pici> Nik0la0s: I gave you instructions on how to setup mutt with smtp.
[20:16] <bod_> noneo, private message,.
[20:16] <PriceChild> !torrents | recon
[20:16] <ubotu> recon: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[20:16] <TATTERS> how would I translate "smbfs //192.168.5.1/Books /media/Books  -o username=Guest,password= " into a entry in fstab ?
[20:17] <recon> ah, thanks pricey. the direct download keeps failing the checksum for some reason.
[20:17] <bod_> !register | noneo
[20:17] <ubotu> noneo: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[20:17] <bod_> noneo, then pm me
[20:17] <tvl> LIST
[20:18] <DRebellion> TATTERS: //192.168.15.1/Books /media/Books smbfs username=Guest,password= 00
[20:18] <DRebellion> TATTERS: //192.168.15.1/Books /media/Books smbfs username=Guest,password= 0 0
[20:18] <ejer> TATTERS: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[20:18] <bod_> noneo, just join this channel ,.,.#noneo
[20:19] <TATTERS> DRebellion: thnx
[20:19] <DRebellion> TATTERS: you may wnat to try cifs (common internet filesystem) instead of smbfs
[20:19] <backz> how I set locales on gusty? localeconf package isn't on Gusty!
[20:19] <sexy> bod_, you think using an older version of ubuntu livecd might fix the problem?
[20:19] <DRebellion> !info localeconf | backz
[20:20] <bod_> sexy, whats the problem?
[20:20] <ubotu> backz: Package localeconf does not exist in gutsy
[20:20] <mrmonday> Is there a command I can use to get the collective number of lines in a selection of files in a directory?
[20:20] <Pici> mrmonday: wc -l
[20:20] <astro76> mrmonday: wc -l file will do one file
[20:20] <sexy> the mini cd works flawlessly, but the live cd uses some funked up graphics setting that completly screws with my screen, so it cant display anything
[20:20] <backz> DRebellion: cooL! how I set locales? I need es_CL to my locale list
[20:20] <TATTERS> DRebellion: I tired cifs but it seemd to involve a lot more work to setup, security not a concern because this is just for my lan
[20:20] <tmccrary> Does ubuntu support multiarch yet?
[20:20] <opapo> has anyone gotten kvm to work without a gui?
[20:20] <DRebellion> TATTERS: really? cifs worked first time for me. ive never used smbfs.
[20:21] <Pici> mrmonday: wc -l * | tail -n1
[20:21] <mrmonday> Pici and astro76, thanks, is it possible to do it for multiple files in one go?
[20:21] <mrmonday> thanks :)
[20:21] <rinaldi_> is there a "remote support" or "log me in" style app for ubuntu?
[20:21] <bod_> sexy, use the alternate cd,. its text based install
[20:21] <DRebellion> rinaldi_: ssh
[20:21] <astro76> mrmonday: yes you can give it a list of files
[20:21] <sexy> not mini, just alternate?
[20:21] <Pici> rinaldi_: System>Prefererences>Remote Desktop, it uses the vnc protocol.
[20:22] <tmccrary> no.. yes... ?
[20:22] <skrakesh> I need help in configuring printer on ubuntu 6.06
[20:23] <skrakesh> I need help in configuring printer on ubuntu 6.06
[20:24] <benste> could you may specicify what printer you have?
[20:24] <benste> and I need help for configuring GDM normally like I said in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678980 but no one answered :-(
[20:24] <LordOfThePigs> Hello, what kind of packages does the "proposed" repository contain?
[20:24] <skrakesh> sure, it is hp 3900 deskjet
[20:25] <benste> LordOfThePigs: helping skrakesh or me?
[20:25] <Pici> LordOfThePigs: Packages that have not yet gone through thorough testing, but are being concidered for inclusion in the regular repos.
[20:25] <henri1> I have a separate disk that I mounted to /home.. From earlier experience, that drive won't be treated the same as the rest of the filesystem.. It pops up an icon on the desktop an so on.. Is it possible to make it more integrated?
[20:25] <henri1> Just removing that icon basically
[20:25] <ejer> henri1: it is integrated the same, you can remove the desktop icon if you wish
[20:26] <DRebellion> henri1: is this that ntfs drive?
[20:26] <mcquaid> my friend has vista, i was going to set him up with ubuntu.  but it's a compaq (i think) and he didn't receive any vista cds
[20:26] <henri1> DReballion: Nope
[20:26] <bod_> Pici, where can i find out about the preposed repo?
[20:26] <mcquaid> there is just an image to make restore cds.  anyway I read there is an issue that vista will no longer boot once setting up ubuntu to dual boot
[20:26] <henri1> It's a disk that allready contains a home folder
[20:26] <ejer> bod_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[20:27] <bod_> ejer,  ty
[20:27] <bod_> Pici,  no worries,. got it
[20:27] <benste> someone helping me?
[20:27] <mcquaid> what is needed is an actual vista disk to fix something (i think mbr related) anyway there was a wiki page dealing with this that i saw before but can't find it
[20:27] <ejer> mcquaid: def make restore disks for vista first
[20:27] <Pici> bod_: good, because I didnt know where to point you.
[20:27] <mcquaid> anyone know where that is on the wiki?
[20:27] <LordOfThePigs> Thanks Pici
[20:27] <henri1> I've renamed my user, so I will have new and fresh settings when I start
[20:27] <bod_> Pici, ok,.,.;)
[20:27] <Pici> @grub | mcquaid this?
[20:27] <Pici> !grub | mcquaid this?
[20:27] <ubotu> mcquaid this?: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:27] <ffm|away> is it possible to have new group settings take effect w/o logout?
[20:27] <ejer> mcquaid: you can create vista restore disks from inside windows usually
[20:28] <Pici> !windows
[20:28] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[20:28] <ejer> ffm|away: don't think so
[20:28] <benste> helping me ?????
[20:28] <mcquaid> yes ejer he can create restore cds that's not the issue. the issue I think that will happen is mentioned here:
[20:28] <mcquaid> http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[20:28] <hwilde> how do I kill the bluetooth stuff?
[20:28] <benste> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678980
[20:29] <mcquaid> damn one sec
[20:29] <jeffMASTERflex> hwilde: System/Administration/Services then disbale the bluetooth service
[20:29] <Freon> Hello
[20:29] <benste> hy
[20:29] <hunter_> guys i have a problem with installing ubuntu, i am getting an error message and it is "error recorded while writing the changes to the storage devices, re partitioning is aborted"
[20:29] <ejer> mcquaid: don't see issue
[20:29] <mcquaid> yeah one sec
[20:29] <hwilde> jeffMASTERflex, I only have command line is it in /etc/init.d ?  which process can I kill, spd, hci ?
[20:30] <jeffMASTERflex> hwilde: i don't remember the name of the service
[20:30] <yMaS> why doesn't java work on ubuntu for ps3 ?
[20:30] <benste> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678980
[20:31] <ejer> benste: you are saying after you reboot XDMCP is re-enabled?
[20:31] <Freon> how to figure out which liraries are used to decode aac
[20:31] <Freon> ?
[20:31] <LjL> !aac > freon    (freon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:32] <benste> (21:31:14) ejer: benste: you are saying after you reboot XDMCP is re-enabled?
[20:32] <benste> --> XDMCP is deactivated -> I've got a normal GDM Greeter
[20:32] <user_> user
[20:32] <ejer> Freon: http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/11/easy-codec-install-for-gutsy.html should play AAC
[20:32] <hunter_> guys i have a problem with installing ubuntu, i am getting an error message and it is "error recorded while writing the changes to the storage devices, re partitioning is aborted"
[20:33] <ejer> benste: can you summarize your problem?
[20:33] <Freon> @LjL its not my decision, the stations are using it...
[20:33] <user_> exit
[20:33] <LjL> Freon: eh? i never said anything about that, i gave you a link with instructions.
[20:33] <jeffMASTERflex> Freon: usually it's FAAD that does AAC decoding
[20:33] <ejer> hunter_: looks like a disk error...
[20:34] <NemesisD> hi all, i'm trying to recover some text files off of a single drive out of a raid array. it's showing as not having a valid partition table. I just need a few files off of it, does anyone know of a good way to go through it and pull out what i can?
[20:34] <Freon> ahh i see thanks so far ;o)
[20:34] <ejer> hunter_: is something mounted while you are trying to do this?
[20:34] <ejer> NemesisD: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd_rhelp may help
[20:34] <hunter_> what do u mean by that ejer?
[20:35] <ejer> hunter_: if hard drive is being used when trying to partition, you will get errors.... but that looks like a more generic error
[20:35] <punkshui> hello i'm trying to return an ubuntu laptop to its original operating system. it's a dell and uses a utility and restore partition to perform this as it comes without restore CDs. I seem to have inadvertently removed the utility partition which is integral to the automated restore feature included with dell's. i also appear to have lost the MBR. is this a problem i could get help for here?
[20:36] <jeffMASTERflex> punkshui: without an origianl Dell restore disk, you will not be able to restore the unit to factory software
[20:36] <ejer> punkshui: unless you backed those partitions up, you may be in trouble
[20:36] <benste> @ ejer
[20:36] <benste> (21:34:12) benste ubuntu: isn't my problem described in ubuntufroums?
[20:36] <benste> (21:34:14) benste ubuntu: - ok
[20:36] <benste> (21:34:43) benste ubuntu: 1. my gdm started only with XDMCP
[20:36] <benste> (21:35:02) benste ubuntu: than my computer science teaceher did something I didn't see
[20:36] <benste> (21:35:14) benste ubuntu: and I've had a normal greeter back again
[20:36] <FloodBot1> benste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <hunter_> while resizing instead of "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space").  i got SES 1 200 GB
[20:37] <hunter_> does it make any difference, what can i do to get aroung it
[20:37] <punkshui> jeffMASTERflex i have a restore partition with a "ghost image" of the original system on it. but i believe dell uses the utility partition to automate this process. which of course no longer exists.
[20:37] <hiram> pls someone knows if the intel card is compatible for install compiz??'
[20:38] <ejer> benste: in all that I don't see a problem, sorry if I am missing it :)
[20:38] <rsk> hiram: some are
[20:38] <ejer> hiram: most new ones yes
[20:38] <Flare183> !compiz | hiram
[20:38] <ubotu> hiram: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:38] <jeffMASTERflex> punkshui: if that's the case, you can clear the partiotion table, copy the ghost image over, then restore the MBR with a Windows install disk
[20:38] <ejer> jeffMASTERflex: but that image probably is only system partition, not the hidden ones
[20:38] <benste> @ ejer - i can't configure my gdm anymore - i want to change my theme
[20:38] <hiram> i have the 965
[20:38] <ejer> benste: what happens when you try
[20:39] <ejer> hiram: it works
[20:39] <benste> it resets to default after loggin
[20:39] <punkshui> jeffMASTERflex dell only provides these two partitions restore and utility. no disks :(
[20:39] <benste> or logout
[20:39] <Flare183> !traffic
[20:39] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[20:39] <jeffMASTERflex> punkshui: you can use ANY windows install disk to fix the master boot rocord
[20:40] <ejer> benste: this is on a local login, not using remote login?
[20:40] <bkar> punkshui-> visit this and let me know if it works okay?
[20:40] <knofi> hi, does anyone know the error hostname: Unknown host while compiling a kernel
[20:40] <benste> yes it is
[20:40] <bkar> punkshui-> www.goodells.net/dellrestore/image.htm
[20:40] <adelie42> jeffMASTERflex: well, totally depending on your definition of 'fix'  :)
[20:40] <punkshui> bkar yeah i'm currently using that as a guide. there is info on how to restore the utility partition but i'm afraid it's a little over my head.
[20:40] <benste> @ejer but I've  tried use XDMCP as a 2nd login for our school network (Debian)
[20:41] <punkshui> jeffMASTERflex unfortunately i have no windows install disk.
[20:41] <ejer> benste: I am not sure if it takes precedence, but I assume it does, and teach may have changed /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[20:41] <israel> uhj
[20:42] <benste> @ ejer should I post /etc/gdm/gdm.conf in ubuntu forums?
[20:42] <ejer> pastebin.ca
[20:42] <brobostigon> !pastebin
[20:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:42] <ejer> thanks
[20:42] <outsider12> Hello- I am having problems with ubuntu server & TFTP access from the external network- keep getting 'Connection time out' . Internally it works, the server is sitting on the edge network / internet on static IP not behind nat. Any ideas?
[20:43] <punkshui> bkar, http://www.goodells.net/dellutility/recreate.htm
[20:43] <Flare183> benste: why do you keep saying "@ ejer" leave that out
[20:43] <benste> ok
[20:43] <benste> I'll post it
[20:43] <ejer> just say my nick is enough
[20:43] <yMaS> ikonia ??
[20:43] <ejer> outsider12: try nmap on server to see if port is reachable?
[20:44] <hunter_> guys i am getting an error while installing ubuntu 7.10 on my desktop. the error happens while resizing the partion. i did it by default and not manually.the error i am getting is as follows "error while writing the changes to the storage devices.repartition aborted."
[20:44] <bad_cables> anyone know if the wireless chipset RTK8185 is supported in 7.10?
[20:44] <hunter_> can any one help pls
[20:44] <ejer> hunter_: i would choose manual partitioning
[20:45] <Flare183> !anyone > hunter_
[20:45] <benste> ejer I've posted it
[20:45] <benste> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4224884#post4224884
[20:46] <hunter_> could u help me with that, i don know the specifications for manual partition, i havent defragmentd my harddisk yet
[20:46] <Chafka> hi.. when i restart apache2 i get this line apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName some one help me??
[20:46] <phenom> Hey guys question, I had installed magiciso via wine. I recently uninstalled it, and it had left behind it's alacarte icons. I can NOT delete them via right click/delete, not can I even find these icons on my system. I fear it may be buried in the wine folder somewhere but if any one has any ideas on how to get rid of these things it would be nice.
[20:46] <phenom> PS, magiciso icons no not show up when I start alacarte as admin :/
[20:47] <arrrghhh> hey all, firefox3 is in the repos for ubuntu, but only alpha 8.  what's the easiest way to upgrade to beta 2?
[20:47] <ejer> Chafka: http://languor.us/apache2-could-not-determine-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name-using-127-0-1-1-servername
[20:47] <brianSimons> Chafka: Apache is still starting up okay though, right? What do you get back if you run 'hostname -f'?
[20:48] <Guits> How do i cancel a print?
[20:48] <israel> -
[20:48] <{Nathan}> Is there an easy ubuntu, GUI way to bridge a network connection, much like in *shudder* windows?
[20:48] <pet> Hi all, I'm trying to install Citrix Client on my amd64 gutsy. It fails starting "wfcmgr", because it misses "libXm.so.3", but according to ldconfig, it's just there:
[20:48] <pet> $ echo $(ldconfig -p | grep libXm.so) "*" $(ldd /usr/lib/ICAClient/wfcmgr | grep libXm.so)
[20:48] <pet> libXm.so.3 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 * libXm.so.3 => not found
[20:48] <Blinny> {Nathan}: I don't think so, but it's not hard at all in the command line.
[20:49] <chuy_max> arrrghhh, ehrm, download from mozilla's website?
[20:49] <arrrghhh> yes, it's a .tar.gz
[20:49] <Blinny> {Nathan}: google 'ubuntu nic bonding' or check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinkAggregation
[20:49] <{Nathan}> Blinny: alright, do you know of any good howtos? I'm good with the command line, but all the howtos I find use iptables and such and I really don't need that
[20:49] <ejer> {Nathan}: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[20:49] <{Nathan}> ejer: thanks :)
[20:49] <Chafka> ejer, thnx :)
[20:50] <shift> I just did a clean re-install of ubuntu, did not even install the UPDATES yet, and was wondering if someone could help me get youtube working? please.
[20:50] <Guits> How do i cancel a print job?
[20:50] <Blinny> {Nathan}: iptables doesn't have anything to do with it, until you get to firewalling.
[20:50] <chuy_max> arrrghhh, ok, there you go, untar and follow instructions
[20:50] <{Nathan}> Blinny: I know that, and that's why I didn't like those howtos.
[20:50] <ejer> Guits: system>administration>printing ?
[20:50] <Blinny> Dig.
[20:50] <ejer> shift: amd64?
[20:51] <arrrghhh> chuy_max: i can run it from the extracted .tar.gz
[20:51] <arrrghhh> but i want it to overwrite my ff alpha 8 install
[20:51] <shift> no i have intel.
[20:51] <Flare183> !who > shift
[20:51] <benste> ejer? could you try to help me tomorrow I in europe - I've to go now
[20:51] <ejer> shift: did you use the 64bit install cd?
[20:51] <ejer> benste: i see no problems with file you posted
[20:52] <Flare183> Blinny: "Dig" what?
[20:52] <ejer> doubt i will be here tomorrow
[20:52] <shift> !ejer no i used intel
[20:52] <benste> k
[20:52] <chuy_max> arrrghhh, I'm not sure about that being possible, just remove it from synaptic, and install from the tarball
[20:52] <benste> I 'll try to find you in this chaos
[20:52] <benste> thx for helping
[20:52] <ejer> !64bit | shift
[20:52] <ubotu> shift: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[20:53] <yMaS> where the hell is IKONIA ?
[20:53] <ejer> shift: either way, install updates
[20:53] <shift> ejer: last time
[20:53] <shift> how do i talk to you
[20:53] <shift> as in.. how do i make your nick name show up
[20:53] <Flare183> !language > yMaS
[20:53] <shift> before my message
[20:53] <x-X-x> how do i find what version of xorg i have ???
[20:53] <yMaS> fine
[20:53] <ejer> shift: ej - TAB
[20:54] <Blinny> Flare183: Dig @ the message {Nathan} was telling me. We were conversing. I should have "{Nathan}:"'d that comment.
[20:54] <benste> ej - TAB
[20:54] <shift> ejer, i am running intel, and last 2 times i tried to run updates my comp got messed up.
[20:54] <Sonderblade> how do you turn off trackerd?
[20:54] <benste> sorry, only a try
[20:54] <Blinny> Flare183: as in "I can dig it", not the dns tool dig. (:
[20:54] <ejer> x-X-x: sudo X -version
[20:54] <Flare183> Blinny: what ever
[20:55] <teadaze> so I can't get into X because I've messed around with the conf file and the backup doesn't work either... how do I reinstall unbutu? GRUB doesn't care that the ubuntu cd is insterted
[20:55] <StyXman> hi all. if I dist-upgrade from, say, feisty to gutsy, what happens to modified config files? and if I do it by hand, with aptitude? does it ask for overwrite/keep/diff help?
[20:55] <arrrghhh> chuy_max: do you know when they're going to update the repos?  i'd prefer to update it via a more "offical" route i guess
[20:55] <ejer> shift: 'running intel' does not answer question, if you are using 64bit ubuntu, flash is broken in a known bug
[20:55] <Flare183> !xconfig > StyXman
[20:55] <xeer> why does gedit fail so miserably when processing a long line of xml?
[20:55] <ejer> teadaze: go to terminal with ALT-CTRL-F1 and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:55] <StyXman> teadaze: make the bios boot from the cd, but you can recover your current installation fixing the xorg.conf
[20:56] <ejer> StyXman: it is intelligent about this and will ask
[20:56] <Flare183> StyXman: oops
[20:56] <bascule> xeer: as an indication that you need a better text editor
[20:56] <jeffMASTERflex> xeer: correction, why does gedit fail so miserably.
[20:56] <shift> ejer, first 2 times i tried to run update through GUI, which ended up freezing towards the end. then after that i ran it through Terminal and it seemed to be working fine but then the "N" key was being pressed sum how? every text box i would click on it would keep typing "nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" by itself.
[20:56] <StyXman> Flare183: almost :)
[20:56] <Flare183> !xconfig > teadaze
[20:56] <ePax> How do i get touchpad to be more sensitive?
[20:56] <Flare183> !synaptic
[20:56] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[20:56] <Flare183> crap
[20:56] <arrrghhh> ePax: mouse settings, set the mouse sensitivity higher
[20:56] <ejer> shift: are you sitting on the n key? :)
[20:57] <bascule> perhaps he has an invisible cat
[20:57] <xeer> bascule, jeffMASTERflex: I've tried mousepad but it sucks just as much.. what's left?
[20:57] <chuy_max> arrrghhh, no, if you need to know ask the maintainer of the package
[20:57] <ejer> sounds like a bad connection with keyboard unless n key is really stuck
[20:57] <ePax> arrrghhh: Its not working... Its allready on the highest.
[20:57] <jeffMASTERflex> xeer: i use vim
[20:57] <Flare183> !synaptics > ePax
[20:57] <bascule> xeer: kate, or Xemacs
[20:57] <shift> ejer, hahahaha thats what i thought but turned out i wasnt lol, but it kept doing it and i had to restart the comp, and when i did restart the desktop would not load. it would only show the background color and the cursor.. nothign else would load.
[20:57] <arrrghhh> ePax: what is already on the highest, there's several settings
[20:57] <Brandon_> How do I find the size of a folder via the console?
[20:57] <jeffMASTERflex> xeer: idk if geany does xml syntax highlighting, but it's pretty nice for a gui app
[20:58] <shift> ejer, and thats exactly what happened the first 2 times when the GUI updater froze, and i restarted.
[20:58] <Flare183> Brandon_: du -h
[20:58] <Brandon_> nvm
[20:58] <arrrghhh> Brandon_: i'd read the man page for ls....
[20:58] <phenom> Ok, so does any one know how to get rid of alacarte menu items that will NOT delete via normal right click/delete? I had opened alacarte as admin and they don't even show. :/
[20:58] <ejer> Brandon_: ls -lah while in directory
[20:58] <hunter_> does anyone know how to get around the error that i am getting while trying to install ubuntu ."error while trying to write changes to the storage devices.partiotion aborted" can somebody help pls
[20:58] <ePax> arrrghhh: sensitivity is already on highest.
[20:58] <xeer> bascule, jeffMASTERflex: thanks
[20:58] <ePax> Flare183: Thnx
[20:58] <Flare183> ePax: no problem
[20:58]  * Kibbles rofl
[20:58] <Kibbles> has any1 had his icons dissapear in open office?
[20:58] <yMaS> Flare183
[20:58] <yMaS> sup
[20:58] <Kibbles> ejer: g1
[20:59] <Kibbles> shoot your printer
[20:59] <Kibbles> write "ej" then press tab
[20:59] <pangelovs> hi guys
[20:59] <Kibbles> teadaze: set to boot from cd in bios - should work
[20:59] <Kibbles> !xconfig kibbles
[20:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconfig kibbles - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:59] <Flare183> yMaS: nothng much
[20:59] <arrrghhh> ePax: the pointer threshold and acceleration is where you want to mess with to get it right
[20:59] <Kibbles> jeffMASTERflex: what is better editor than gedit?
[20:59] <FloodBot1> Kibbles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:59] <ejer> Kibbles: good trick few seem to know
[20:59] <teadaze> Kibbles yeah it SHOULD... but doesn't :p
[20:59] <Flare183> !xconfig > Kibbles
[20:59] <Kibbles> how can I back up all the changes I made to an installation so that I can redo them quickly?
[20:59] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: vim, by far.
[20:59] <pangelovs> i downloaded the ubuntu cd and burned it on a cd. Im trying ton install it on my ps3 but i get udf-fs: no vrs found. anyone else had the same problem?
[20:59] <teadaze> Flare183 that config thing seriously scared me... I prolly fucked up a lot of shit now
[20:59] <Kibbles> all: i'm seriously lagged.
[20:59] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: but vim has a pretty big learning curve
[21:00] <ejer> Kibbles: i use kate
[21:00] <Flare183> !language > teadaze
[21:00] <ePax> Acceleration is on highest... NOw im gonna read this about synaptic
[21:00] <ePax> brb
[21:00] <pangelovs> ive tried googling but couldnt find anything that mentioned my problems.
[21:00] <rinaldi_> pangelovs: did you download the ps3 version?
[21:00] <mmmdlvii> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
[21:00] <Flare183> teadaze: all it does is reconfigure the xorg.conf file
[21:00] <Brandon_> ejer, thanks that's exactly what I wanted. I ls -l -s was confusing me
[21:00] <Flare183> !ps3
[21:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:00] <Flare183> crap
[21:01] <ejer> np Brandon_ the -h makes it print in MB instead of bytes
[21:01] <mmmdlvii> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
[21:01] <Kibbles> ejer: tell me when you see this
[21:01] <ejer> Kibbles: i c u
[21:01] <Flare183> !install > pangelovs
[21:01] <Kibbles> k
[21:01] <pearlbear> hey, anyone have experience with eth1 (wireless) disappearing after a gutsy upgrade?
[21:01] <Brandon_> ejer, yeah the human-readable, I never looked at that. Very useful
[21:01] <siloko> i'm having dependancy nightmares in synaptic - and don't really know where to start to get it resolved
[21:01] <Flare183> !spam > mmmdlvii
[21:01] <shift> ejer, what do you think?
[21:01] <ejer> pearlbear: could it now be wifi0 instead?
[21:01] <bascule> Brandon_: works on du and df too
[21:01] <rinaldi_> pangelovs: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-7-10-on-PS3-73272.shtml
[21:02] <joakim_> /msg joakim test-
[21:02] <ffm> could I set up a fedora chroot in ubuntuy, and how would I do so?
[21:02] <pangelovs> fucking hell, i downloaded the wrong version :D
[21:02] <PriceChild> !ohmy | pangelovs
[21:02] <ubotu> pangelovs: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:02] <Flare183> !lanaguage > pangelovs
[21:02] <ompaul> !language | pangelovs
[21:02] <Brandon_> bascule, I'm afraid I'm still too new to linux to know what those are :) one moment I'll man them
[21:02] <ejer> shift: sounds like your X config is messed up
[21:02] <pearlbear> ejer: it was eth1 before the upgrade (I was running fiesty) and when I do a generic iwconfig, nothing shows as using wireless
[21:02] <pangelovs> sorry, im just plain stupid
[21:02] <ejer> pearlbear: unfortunately sounds like driver is not being loaded
[21:02] <bascule> Brandon_: I like your attitude :))
[21:02] <Flare183> PriceChild, ompaul: thank god for you guys having to moderate these guys myself is hard
[21:03] <pangelovs> is the desktop version the same as ps3 version
[21:03] <shift> ejer, is there a way to check/fix that?
[21:03] <rinaldi_> pangelovs: make sure its not just the ppc version as the ps3 versioin has packages specially for ps3 hardware
[21:03] <astro76> pangelovs: you need the powerpc version
[21:03] <ejer> shift: you can look at X log in /var/log
[21:03] <astro76> pangelovs: apparently rinaldi_ knows more
[21:03] <ejer> shift: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:03] <Kibbles> ejer: this should be an easy one: when i install something and it installs all its dependencies - how can i UNinstall and uninstall all the dependencies?
[21:04] <ejer> Kibbles: depends how it was installed
[21:04] <Rei-chan> package destar. I know nothing of python, all I know is running destar after installation spits out a lot of python which looks like errors, then fails.
[21:04] <Kibbles> ejer: synaptic
[21:04] <ejer> Kibbles: I use aptitude in terminal since it is smart about these things
[21:04] <methods> kernel-patch-grsecurity2  why is this not in the list ?
[21:04] <Rei-chan> anyone familiar with destar?
[21:04] <ejer> Kibbles: it *should* remove unused packages
[21:04] <shift> ejer, okay i opened it, now what should i look for?
[21:04] <Meronik> is there a special channel for wine?
[21:04] <pangelovs> alright, ill try tomorrow
[21:04] <Kibbles> ejer: installed vlc and ended up with bloated crap
[21:04] <rinaldi_> pangelovs: softpedia has the ps3 version on their site. at the moment im having problems with mine. if you want an optimised version look for yellowdog which is better supported
[21:04] <astro76> Meronik: #winehq
[21:04] <ompaul> Meronik, #winehq
[21:04] <ejer> shift: errors....
[21:04] <ffm> Meronik: #winehq
[21:04] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: usually a sudo apt-get autoremove will get rid of the old dependencies, but it really depends on the packages installed
[21:04] <neopsyche> hi, framerate on ffmpeg not working? can someone help? says frame rate is not the same
[21:05] <protcront> hello
[21:05] <protcront>  i am getting an error on ubuntu while running jad error is :error shared loading  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[21:05] <Flare183> !hi | protcront
[21:05] <Doctor-Who> Hello!
[21:05] <ubotu> protcront: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:05] <ejer> Kibbles: it is not gonna slow you down, but if you want to clean it, look at the dependencies of vlc and remove them manually
[21:05] <Meronik> triplae fast, thanks :)
[21:05] <pearlbear> ejer: no, actually, the driver is. lsmod shows that it's loaded
[21:05] <pearlbear> ejer: that's the wierd part
[21:05] <ejer> pearlbear: look at dmesg to see if it is spitting errors
[21:05] <protcront> Flare183: how u doing ?
[21:05] <shift> ejer, sorry im kind of a noob @ linux.. so not sure what kind of errors i should be looking at?
[21:05] <ejer> pearlbear: type dmesg in terminal
[21:05] <brittany> hey i heard there was a problem with the flash plugin, anyone know where i get the fix for that i cant find it
[21:05] <ejer> !pastebin | shift
[21:05] <ubotu> shift: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:06] <yMaS> Flare183 , what does "tar xzf" tells terminal to do ?
[21:06] <bascule> protcront: it needs recompiled against the ubuntu version of libs, looks like an old compile
[21:06] <outsider12> ejer - nmap port 69 tftp port is reachable
[21:06] <Sonderblade> how can i list all removed but not purged packages?
[21:06]  * Flare183 says I swear everybody thinks that I'm a girl and I'm not I'm a male
[21:06] <Rei-chan> !destar
[21:06] <ejer> brittany: for amd64 this is the fix I am throwing around... it is not 'official' http://pastebin.ca/876289
[21:06] <Flare183> yMaS: stupid question, it extracts
[21:06] <Flare183> yMaS: a tar file that is
[21:06] <Kibbles> Flare183: try losing the tits
[21:06] <ejer> outsider12: have you told tftp to listen on that interface
[21:06] <outsider12> yes
[21:07] <outsider12> ejer - yes
[21:07] <yMaS> flare183 , am new to ubuntu ?
[21:07] <vaughn> join #ubuntu-artwork
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about destar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <brittany> ejer: i dont have a 64 bit system
[21:07] <shift> ejer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53908/
[21:07] <Flare183> !spam > Kibbles
[21:07] <Flare183> !spam > yMaS
[21:07] <ejer> outsider12: can you connect to any other service like ssh on it
[21:07] <Kibbles> has any1 experienced lost icons in open office
[21:07] <outsider12> ejer - yes
[21:07] <_moro_bana_>  !spam
[21:07] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[21:07] <yMaS> and flare , when it extracts where does it puts the output ?
[21:07] <ejer> brittany: is your flash broken? ::)
[21:07] <Kibbles> !touchy > flare183
[21:07] <bascule> Kibbles: you changed gnome icon themes?
[21:07] <Kibbles> yes
[21:08] <kaz1nsky_> Anyone in here able to help me out with UrT?
[21:08] <brittany> ejer: im actually a tech for this system this is a new install of ubuntu so yes the flash is broken
[21:08] <bascule> Kibbles: unchange them :)
[21:08] <yMaS> flare183 , am i misbehaving in the channel ?
[21:08] <Kibbles> bascule: but reset in open office and doesn't help
[21:08] <Flare183> about to be
[21:08] <ejer> brittany: have you searched the bugs
[21:08] <Flare183> !attitude > yMaS
[21:08] <yMaS> what attitude ??
[21:08] <Flare183> !attitude > Kibbles
[21:09] <Flare183> quit it people
[21:09] <brittany> ejer: no i havent i just remember there being a fix in the forums somewhere but i cant seem to find it
[21:09] <yMaS>  i just said that i was new to ubuntu
[21:09] <shift> ejer, did u get a chance to look at it?
[21:09] <ejer> brittany: IMO flash should work on 32bit gutsy
[21:09] <Flare183> yMaS: i can understand that just please don't get smart, I said please....
[21:09] <ejer> shift: don't see a problem here
[21:10] <jeffMASTERflex> yMaS: what is the problem you need assistance with?
[21:10] <Kibbles> Flare183: it appears that i'm spamming 'cause i have a sporadic lag problem
[21:10] <brittany> ejer: well it doesnt
[21:10] <Kibbles> bascule: that doesn't change anything
[21:10] <yMaS> jeffmasterflex , now this is what i wanted to hear
[21:10] <shift> ejer, lol well thats good, and just like brittany im having trouble with flash too.
[21:10] <brittany> ejer: i had the same problem with another system, someone gave me a fix they found on the forums and it worked great
[21:10] <iostat> Is there a way to repartition a drive, essecially extend it, while it is mouted?
[21:10] <yMaS> jeff , do u know alot about pcc64 arch ?
[21:10] <NemesisD> anyone know how i'd log in a computer with xmdmp or whatever the heck it's called?
[21:10] <ejer> brittany: when you try to install flash does the install error?
[21:11] <brittany> anyone know where the flash fix is in ubuntu forums
[21:11] <brittany> ejer: nope
[21:11] <neopsyche> Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 300.00 (600/2) -> 15.00 (15/1)
[21:11] <neopsyche> ???
[21:11] <Flare183> !flash | brittany
[21:11] <th0r> NemesisD shouldn't use xdmp as it is insecure...use ssh -X (X forwarding)
[21:11] <ubotu> brittany: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:11] <jeffMASTERflex> yMaS: not at all, but maybe someone does. ask your question and maybe someone here can help you out
[21:11] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:11] <Purcelly> Quick question, if I install ubuntu from the CD can I uninstall it later back to windows if I am not happy?
[21:11] <ejer> brittany: are you sure? it should fail with md5sum mismatch if it is the same bug
[21:11] <Kibbles> flash is unbroken?!?!
[21:11] <pearlbear> ejer: http://pearlbear.pastebin.com/m12dfe0a0
[21:12] <ejer> brittany: but it does not pop an error, it says it in the terminal
[21:12] <Flare183> Purcelly: depeads on if the cd wiped everything or not
[21:12] <brittany> ejer: which method of install?
[21:12] <shift> brittany, someone gave me the link to the fix earlier, so i know its there.
[21:12] <Flare183> Kibbles: dude it's broken now
[21:12] <shift> brittany, search the forums.. im sure it'll come up.
[21:12] <neopsyche> Purcelly: why would you want to uninstall it? then you would just be unhappy again ;-)
[21:12] <Kibbles> Flare183: damit
[21:12] <Flare183> !flashissues
[21:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:12] <brittany> ejer: ok ill do it in terminal and give you the error
[21:12] <neopsyche> Purcelly: joke ;-)
[21:12] <CercoLamore> is ubuntu buggy?
[21:12] <shift> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[21:12] <Kibbles> Flare183: got my hopes up
[21:12] <Flare183> neopsyche: that's right
[21:13] <brittany> shift: thanks
[21:13] <neopsyche> CercoLamore: I dont think ubuntu is as buggy as windows
[21:13] <Purcelly> So if the CD wipes everything I can't return to Windows?
[21:13] <ejer> "but it's recommended to wait for an official fix" <- it has been since dec 2nd!
[21:13] <jeffMASTERflex> CercoLamore: it's software. all software, with the exception of emacs and vim, is buggy
[21:13] <ompaul> CercoLamore, 99.9999% of the time it is not - so what is the actual question
[21:13] <shift> brittany, np
[21:13] <yMaS> hmm well with Flare183 and ikonia talking nonsense and giving people warning for their so called *attitude and misbehaving* in this channel i don't think everybdy will be getting their questions answered
[21:13] <neopsyche> Purcelly: if your windows is gone.. then yes? what kind of a question is that?
[21:13] <shift> ejer, is the flash bug also not letting youtube work properly?
[21:13] <koojoo>  does anyone know if it is possible for me to change from my MBR partition style to GUID using gparted or some other software that could even fit on a disk??  ( i dont have an OS currently and i have a copy of acronis disk director, paragon partition mgr, and gparted ) but i cannot find how to switch to GUID
[21:13] <bod_> Hi guys,. i seem to remember reading somewhere that you can have a backround picture for grub,. is this true? if so, how?
[21:14] <neopsyche> Purcelly: best option.. install ubuntu on 2nd pc.
[21:14] <ejer> shift: all flash is broken if it is same bug
[21:14] <brittany> shift: it tells me i need to log in, crap forgot my user lol
[21:14] <jeffMASTERflex> yMaS: idle banter like that is the problem. if you want to complain about the mods, hit the #ubuntu-offtopic. if you want any chance of your problem being solved, just ask
[21:14] <Purcelly> K cheers
[21:14] <yMaS> thanks jeff
[21:15] <neopsyche> Purcelly: otherwise .. backup all your improtant data.. then do a dual install or fresh install. NB ubuntu probably wont satisfy you if you are into games.. but otherwise there are probably equivelants for most average office applications for the average office user.
[21:15] <Kibbles> still hoping someone has experienced dissapearing icons in open office
[21:15] <ejer> bod_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[21:15] <neopsyche> hehe
[21:15] <neopsyche> Purcelly: no offense .. yes .. your windows is not able to be restored .. if it is gone.
[21:15] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: it seems your alone in this respect. when i changed icon themes, openoffice kept the original human theme
[21:15] <bod_> ejer,  you agian,. damn you and your amazing knowledge of ubuntu forums,.,.lol,.,. cheers dudde ,.,.,.,.;)
[21:15] <Kibbles> neopsyche: and a hell of alot more for the admin....
[21:16] <aig> l,;,
[21:16] <aig> ..'.;.;.'.';
[21:16] <Kibbles> jeffMASTERflex: darnit
[21:16] <neopsyche> Purcelly: but you can run the live cd without wiping
[21:16] <ejer> bod_: I just type what people say into google, it makes me seem very smart :)
[21:16] <neopsyche> *"wiping" windows off your machine
[21:16] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles:  try deleting the .openoffice folder in your home directory, then restarting openoffice
[21:16] <bascule> !defenestration
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defenestration - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:17] <bod_> ejer,  oh yer google,.,. for some reason my brain only links google to windows,.,.lol,.,. il remember that,.cheers m8
[21:17] <shift> ejer, how do i find out which version i am running 64 or 32?
[21:17] <yMaS> Jeffmasterflex , am using a PPC64 architecture and installing java is very challenging
[21:17] <neopsyche> could someone please PLEASE help me with ffmpeg issues converting mov file to mpg
[21:17] <neopsyche> !?>?
[21:17] <ejer> shift: uname -r
[21:17] <ejer> err no
[21:17] <shift> ejer, type that into terminal?
[21:17] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: what's the problem?
[21:18] <neopsyche> Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 300.00 (600/2) -> 15.00 (15/1)
[21:18] <ejer> shift: uname -m
[21:18] <ejer> in terminal
[21:18] <neopsyche> [Scooter]: how do i set that right?
[21:18] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: can you pastebin what you're trying to do and what sort of output you're getting?
[21:18] <Kibbles> jeffMASTERflex: where's that folder??
[21:18] <shift> ej http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[21:18] <shift> ejer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[21:18] <ejer> neopsyche: you need to set FPS
[21:18] <Teshadael> Could anyone help me getting my video drivers installed/working.  It's an ATI card and everything I've tried ends up with the mesa ogl renderer.
[21:18] <neopsyche> ok
[21:19] <neopsyche> how
[21:19] <neopsyche> ejer: how?
[21:19] <ejer> shift: yes that is same bug
[21:19] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: it could be the fps... or it could be the container type
[21:19] <neopsyche> ffmpeg -i /home/andrew/Desktop/files/video/sterling.mov -pass 1 -s 320x240 -b 200k-ar 44100 /home/andrew/Desktop/files/video/output/output3.mpg
[21:19] <neopsyche> ???
[21:19] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: it's a hidden folder in your home directory. just show hidden files in /home and delete the .openoffice2 folder
[21:19] <ejer> neopsyche: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html#TOC7
[21:20] <x-X-x> is it ok to delet usr/share/man/man1 ????
[21:20] <shift> ejer, i686 is the version im running, just checked.
[21:20] <neopsyche> ejer: so what must i set it to to make it work?
[21:21] <ejer> shift: so my info will not work for you, that forum thread " 32-bit packages: The Ubuntu 7.10 package is available here. Just download the package for your release, double-click the file, and install the package. For other releases, download this zip file and double-click the corresponding file to your release."
[21:21] <ejer> neopsyche: depends on input framerate
[21:21] <ejer> probably -r 15 on input file
[21:21] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: you might want to define a tv standard as well
[21:21] <jeffMASTERflex> yMaS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-81c3789bc76872336f69a7af90d1759ef38eeb64
[21:22] <ejer> this would be better answered by ffmpeg guys neopsyche
[21:22] <shift> ejer, sorry but where can i get the packages, and are you talking about update packages or flash?
[21:22] <ejer> shift: that line was from forum post you linked to just before, download his package, double click it and go
[21:22] <Kibbles> jeffMASTERflex: you just introduced me to a new world. there are LOTS of hidden files in ~
[21:23] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: man ffmpeg  then do a /fps<enter>
[21:23] <ejer> shift: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466 is the fixed flash package apparently
[21:23] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: tells you how to do it
[21:23] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: how many fps is the mov?
[21:23] <erUSUL> x-X-x: they are the man pages it is not ok if you want to know how to use the programs
[21:23] <jimmy__> Hi, i have a couple problems with my ubuntu,1. on startup it's very slow cuz it checks the FS everytime cuz it gives a FileSystem is not clean error at each boot 2) Sometimes when i lock my screen and leave the comp a couple hours it won't unblock and i have to hard boot it. 3) when my pc goes into sleep or i lock my screen my network connection seems to go to sleep, it doesn't disconnect it just doesn't download or upload
[21:23] <fevel> hey guys
[21:23] <neopsyche> [Scooter]: strange.. 300 apparently!?
[21:24] <ejer> neopsyche: it is not easy to convert qt
[21:24] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: yup, that's where programs store their user-specific settings
[21:24] <ejer> you may have to play around alot
[21:24] <neopsyche> ejer: Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 300.00 (600/2) -> 15.00 (15/1)
[21:24] <x-X-x> erUSUL i installed an app and it was broken and i couldnt uninstall it so i delete all folders the .deb package said it installed to including man1
[21:24] <ejer> so set it as -i 300 see what happens
[21:24] <neopsyche> [Scooter]: Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 300.00 (600/2) -> 15.00 (15/1)
[21:25] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: can't be right... do a: file /home/andrew/Desktop/files/video/sterling.mov
[21:25] <shift> ejer, okay im downloading the package, should i just click to install it?
[21:26] <neopsyche> [Scooter]: Apple QuickTime movie (fast start, compressed header)
[21:26] <erUSUL> x-X-x: you did what!!!! o.O what folders have you deleted? not /usr/bin/ i hope....
[21:26] <[Scooter]> neopsyche: then you've got bigger problems, because the FPS can never be greater than 30.  29.97 is the next step down.
[21:26] <Kibbles> is there any way to run bash scripts under windows?
[21:26] <ejer> neopsyche: try running mplayer -identify
[21:26] <[Scooter]> Kibbles: yes
[21:26] <bascule> Kibbles: cygwin
[21:26] <ejer> shift: double click should do it
[21:26] <shift> ejer,  it says "An older verison is available in a software channel... Generally you are recommended to isntall the verison from the software channel, since it isi usually better supported"
[21:27] <Kibbles> thanks. i think i'm going back to windows :(
[21:27] <ejer> shift: normally true, but we know older version is broke
[21:27] <[Scooter]> Kibbles: what for?
[21:27] <shift> ejer, okay thanks
[21:27] <shift> Kibbles, no!!!!!
[21:27] <jeffMASTERflex> Kibbles: ease up on the crazy talk. what is the problem?
[21:28] <Keigo-kun> I think I have the wrong soundcard set to card0 and I'm not getting any sound output, what do I do?
[21:28] <Kibbles> it's f#@#$ing insane all the tweaking you have to do to get a stable  system that doesn't shimmer in and out of usability
[21:28] <bascule> Kibbles: you might get office icons back, but you'll get pwn3d, it's inevitable :))
[21:28] <Keigo-kun> I think I have the wrong soundcard set to card0 and I'm not getting any sound output, what do I do?
[21:28] <shift> ejer, okay its done installing.. do i have to do anything else?
[21:28] <fevel> does anyone know if hibernate is working on pavillion notebooks
[21:28] <Vad1> How can I reset the ALSA sound system? It's says it's busy, when it's not (I don't have anything playing)
[21:28] <ejer> shift: restart FF and go to youtube :)
[21:28] <zilenC1> helloo
[21:29] <shift> WOWWWWWWWW ejer THANKS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH MAN.
[21:29] <ejer> Kibbles: icons disappear in win as well at times
[21:29] <[Scooter]> Kibbles: such as?
[21:29] <ejer> np shift :)
[21:29] <bascule> Vad1: lsof /dev/dsp will show whats holding the soundcard open
[21:29] <shift> ejer, ive been tryign to figure this out since last night!!! thanks so much.
[21:29] <zilenC1> I need to setup a mail server on my ubuntu server (7.10 minimal) to use the mail() php function, is there an easy way?
[21:29] <Kitar|st> If you are guitarist and if you are interested in amps you can check out www.ceriatoneforum.com (Make your own Quality Marshall Clone) and please leave a comment :))
[21:29] <ejer> we should add that to the flashissues bot answer - dunno how
[21:29] <Vad1> fevel: check http://ubuntuhcl.org/pub/products.php?category_id=2&manufacturer_id=141http://ubuntuhcl.org/pub/products.php?category_id=2&manufacturer_id=141
[21:29] <Kibbles> ever since i installed the system i've been tweaking - not using
[21:29] <Vad1> fevel: ack, sorry, it's http://ubuntuhcl.org/pub/products.php?category_id=2&manufacturer_id=141
[21:29] <ejer> shift: took me weeks, so consider yourself lucky
[21:29] <[Scooter]> Kibbles: keep in mind, linux and ubuntu look at computing from the ground-up, not the top-down
[21:29] <jimmy__> can no one help me not even with one of my problems?
[21:29] <zilenC1> which mailserver should I use?
[21:29] <shift> Kibbles, my icons for xchat disapeared too earlier btu came back. its noting serious.
[21:29] <nownot> ifconfig wlan0 up hass error SIOCSIFFLAGS: input/ouput error any one have any ideas?
[21:29] <shift> ejer, haha thank you.
[21:29] <[Scooter]> Kibbles: do you have a list of things that you've been trying to tweak for?
[21:29] <Vad1> bascule: that gives a blank prompt :/
[21:30] <Kibbles> YES, scooter
[21:30] <Kibbles> should be simple
[21:30] <Vad1> bascule: but the last.fm client says that the alsa sound system is either busy or not present
[21:30] <Kibbles> but this channel isn't the place
[21:30] <bascule> Vad1: waht application are you trying to use? try sudo killall esd
[21:30] <Kibbles> if you want you can join #kibble and talk me off the cliff
[21:30] <Vad1> bascule: says esd isn't a process
[21:31] <Keigo-kun> Can someone tell me a way to test sound on all soundcards?
[21:31] <[Scooter]> Keigo-kun: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp#
[21:32] <Keigo-kun> [Scooter]: I get permission denied, even with sudo.
[21:32] <[Scooter]> Keigo-kun: with /dev/dsp or /dev/urandom?
[21:33] <ejer> Keigo-kun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[21:33] <nownot> dmesg shows ok phy1 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: errir  - vendor request 0x06 failed for offest 0x308c with error -110
[21:34] <mohbana> hi does anyone use wxDownload on ubunti
[21:35] <Oli```> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?
[21:35] <ejer> Oli```:  only with reinstall of some sort
[21:35] <zilenC1> mailserver anyone?
[21:35] <yMaS> wow , this guys at offtopic are way better help than anywhere
[21:35] <ejer> !mailserver
[21:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html
[21:36] <Eyemean> hi does ubuntu drive need to be defragmented
[21:36] <Eyemean> ?
[21:36] <tyger> hello, im new to ubuntu
[21:36] <jpatrick> !defrag | Eyemean
[21:36] <ubotu> Eyemean: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[21:37] <tyger> im trying to figure out my wireless
[21:37] <tyger> i have the dreded atherod 5056eg card
[21:38] <tyger> anyone know anything about it?
[21:38] <nownot> how do i remove all existing modules for my usb wifi card?
[21:39] <J-a-k-e> does anyone know how to setup bass redirection to a subwoofer in ubuntu?
[21:39] <shift> .
[21:40] <shift> whats the command to change nickname in xchat/irc i forgot lol
[21:40] <Fish-Face> For a dual-core CPU I need a kernel other than 386, right?
[21:40] <Slart> shift: /nick nwenick
[21:40] <Fish-Face> which kernel is correct for an Athlon 64bit dual core, running in 32bit mode?
[21:41] <tmccrary> When my machine starts, it sits at "starting NFS common utilities" for at least 5 minutes
[21:41] <tmccrary> is there anyway to avoid this problem?
[21:41] <Slart> !smp | Fish-Face
[21:41] <ubotu> Fish-Face: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[21:41] <Fish-Face> Slart: so -generic?
[21:41] <iKap> anyone know how to set VLC as default player for all supported files?
[21:41] <Slart> Fish-Face: yes
[21:41] <Fish-Face> Slart: excellent, thanks very much
[21:42] <tyger> anyone help out with wireless card?
[21:42] <Slart> you're welcome, Fish-Face
[21:42] <Fish-Face> :) see you!
[21:42] <mohbana> hi does anyone use wxDownload on ubunti
[21:42] <BennyE> Guys, you know this famous "/dev/null" only has rw----- rights after every boot problem. If somebody has the same problem -> apt-get install --reinstall udev (you can try before to run the /sbin/udevd - if it says "illegal instruction" just reinstall it)
[21:43] <ejer> tyger: you must be more specific
[21:43] <tyger> i have the atheros 5006eg card and i cannot get it working
[21:43] <tyger> i have searched all around the forums and none of them seem to be working for me....
[21:44] <kahrytan> Slart➲ I thought it was generic
[21:44] <Slart> kahrytan: yes? isn't that what I said?
[21:44] <iKap> anyone know how to set VLC as default player for all supported files?
[21:44] <Keigo-kun> I changed stuff in /etc/modules, do i have to reboot to see the changes??
[21:45] <kahrytan> slart i would have answered but wasnt sure
[21:45] <ejer> Keigo-kun: you can manually unload a module with rmmod and load it with modprobe
[21:45] <kahrytan> iKap➲  Preferred Applications
[21:45] <Keigo-kun> ejer: Then I guess that isn't my problem, I loaded both snd-intel8x0 and an ensonic driver, still no sound :/
[21:45] <ejer> kahrytan: i usually have to right click the file in nautilus, open with
[21:46] <compy> is it possible to run compiz under fluxbox or openbox... i dont know if what i just said makes any sense
[21:46] <manawyddan> Hi everyone, does anyone know how to build a DVD.iso using several .iso images?
[21:46] <ejer> kahrytan: i meant right click, properties, open with
[21:46] <manawyddan> what tools should i use under Ubuntu?
[21:47] <crazy6> after updating, when I come back from resume, my LCD backlight doesn't turn on!
[21:47] <tyger> no one knows how to help?
[21:47] <ejer> manawyddan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[21:48] <ejer> tyger: looks like this should work http://elkpi.blogspot.com/2007/12/wirless-in-ubuntu-710-with-ndiswrapper.html
[21:48] <ejer> no guarantees
[21:48] <ejer> basically the card is not supported, but this is a hacky way to maybe make it work
[21:48] <kahrytan> ejer➲ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18971
[21:48] <tyger> ejer: i just tried that...
[21:48] <iKap> kahrytan, do you know what the vlc command is lol sorry
[21:48] <kahrytan> ejer➲  second reply
[21:48] <tyger> ejer: nothing happened....
[21:49] <kahrytan> oops iKap http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18971
[21:49] <penfold> hello, can someone help me with a compiz/emerald problem?
[21:49] <ejer> tyger: buy a supported card, this or keep hacking on it
[21:49] <ejer> sorry to say it
[21:50] <erichj> agreed
[21:50] <xobius> penfold, what's your problem?
[21:50] <kahrytan> audios
[21:50] <ejer> kahrytan: yep, that is what i do
[21:50] <manawyddan> ejer: thanks, the idea is to take several images of a Linux distro and put them into one DVD, can any of these do the work?
[21:50] <penfold> compiz and emerald are running well, except that whenever i resize a window most of the buttons in the window decoration disappear
[21:50] <Keigo-kun> Man this is annoying, according to all terminal tests I've tried, my soundcards should be fine... yet it seems impossible to get any form of sound output
[21:50] <ejer> manawyddan: you have a little more engineering to do unless you just burn the ISOs to a data DVD
[21:51] <ejer> Keigo-kun: have you gone through the wiki page i sent
[21:51] <ejer> manawyddan: what boots the actual systems?
[21:51] <Keigo-kun> ejer: Yes. As if it wasn't enough that there's tons of info missing, nothing did any difference at all it seems
[21:52] <tehdave> What's the command to check the version of an installed program?
[21:52] <ejer> manawyddan: http://www.linux.com/feature/54537
[21:52] <Gokee2_Dlap> Hello all,  Is there a page that talks about the current ubuntu releases?  This computer is running Festy.  Is this about equivalent what oldstable is in Debian?  Is gutsy stable?  And then hardy kindof like testing in debian?  (if you have not noticed I am rather new to ubuntu having run Debian for years and at last figured out there naming.  I am still deciding if I think ubuntu or debian is better for a small office.
[21:52] <Gokee2_Dlap> to what*
[21:52] <ejer> !releases
[21:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[21:52] <assilva> hi
[21:52] <ejer> tehdave: you could look for it in synaptic
[21:53] <Gokee2_Dlap> ejer, Thanks :)
[21:53] <assilva> hi peoples
[21:53] <tehdave> ejer: true...i just know there's a command for it and can't remember it XD
[21:53] <applewhat> tehdave: dpkg
[21:54] <ryan_> hey guys i really need help, i just installed feisty on my ps3 and everything is fine except the guide i followed said that the wireless internet would work, and its not. also the resoloution is wayy to small
[21:54] <assilva> Brazilian_Joe, fala
[21:54] <tehdave> Is samba needed on both machines if I'm trying to set up file/printer sharing for Windows <-> Ubuntu?
[21:54] <ejer> tehdave: dpkg-query -W apache2
[21:55] <Slart> tehdave: samba is already there if you have windows installed
[21:55] <Randomtime> Hey, I'm setting up a dual boot Windows/Kubuntu, is there anyway I can set grub up to defult to windows on a day to day, and give a choice afterwoulds
[21:55] <tehdave> Slart: kk thanks
[21:55] <manawyddan> ejer: Thanks ejer, i'll check it out.
[21:55] <Slart> tehdave: but you'll need the server if you're going to be sharing files from ubuntu to windows
[21:56] <tehdave> Slart: I just picked up the server off synaptic...got a howto open to see if I can get this set up XD
[21:56] <wolfman2323> can i use gmail pop on evolution
[21:56] <_nmap> My firefox cant view flash pages... I install gnash and flashplugin-nonfree but no1 works.
[21:56] <x-punk> having a problem with suspend on my maching (gutsy + amd64 (x2) + ati). does adding the 'NOAPIC' option in /boot/grub/menu.lst solve my problem and does it affect overall performance?
[21:56] <Gokee2_Dlap> tehdave, I always use "apt-cache policy package"
[21:56] <_nmap> there is other package i can install to fix it?
[21:56] <ejer> wolfman2323: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/41552-complete-guide-using-gmail-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-kmai.html
[21:57] <iKap> why are multimedia files by default suppose to open in TOTEM when it deosnt even play them.. always asks to search/download codec.. anyone know?
[21:57] <wolfman2323> ejer: thanks
[21:57] <tehdave> Gokee2_Dlap: ?? elaborate?
[21:57] <iKap> why are multimedia files by default suppose to open in TOTEM when it deosnt even play them.. always asks to search/download codec.. anyone know?
[21:57] <ejer> iKap: totem plays what it can, you need codecs for other types
[21:58] <tehdave> Gokee2_Dlap: ahhh, nvm just tried it
[21:58] <Gokee2_Dlap> tehdave, Ok
[21:59] <r00723r0> Hi, my iPod isn't being recognized at all.
[21:59] <r00723r0> I can't mount it either.
[21:59] <r00723r0> It's like it's not a device.
[21:59] <r00723r0> Any advice?
[21:59] <Gokee2_Dlap> tehdave, Its really handy when you can get a package from a few diff sources and diffrent versions.  It tells you what it will install for you (or whats installed) and also shows you what other ones you could choose to install
[21:59] <moo_cow> how can i find out what modem i have with ubuntu?
[21:59] <iKap> ejer, will searching and installing the codecs screw up my system at all?
[21:59] <tehdave> Gokee2_Dlap: ah cool, thanks
[22:00] <robot_jesus> im running kubuntu, what do I need to do to change to gnome instead of kde ?
[22:00] <moo_cow> how can i find out what modem i have with ubuntu?
[22:00] <neverblue> robot_jesus, login screen
[22:01] <neverblue> moo_cow, lspci will give you a listing of PCI devices
[22:01] <ejer> iKap: not that I know of
[22:01] <Mm|Spunky> I installed Ubuntu on my External HDD and now my external HDD won't show up for windows. Was wondering how to get it to show back up.
[22:01] <ejer> iKap: you will only be installing 'approved' packages if you let the auto-codec thing do it for you
[22:01] <Randomtime> Mm|Spunky: I'm afraid windows can't read linux formated drivs
[22:01] <J-_> Mm|Spunky: what filesystem is the external drive?
[22:01] <ejer> Mm|Spunky: windows needs a driver to see linux disks
[22:01] <neverblue> Mm|Spunky, if its EXT3, then Windows wont view it, maybe try letting Partition Magic view it
[22:02] <iKap> ejer, okay thank you.. also my sound seems kinda crappy at times? and idea of how i can fix it..
[22:02] <Brandon_> in ubuntu to be able to do php foo.php and have it run can you just have php5 installed?
[22:02] <simps> I am using Ubuntu and am trying to connect to a Windows network. Could anyone please show me how i would be able to do this? Help would be much appreciated.
[22:02] <sysadmin-lb22> hi all has anyone had problems with WEP and shared keys in linux ...WEP only seems to work in OPEN mode
[22:02] <J-_> Mm|Spunky: fs driver, google it
[22:02] <Gokee2_Dlap> ejer, That release web page does not have any releases since 2006
[22:02] <ejer> Mm|Spunky: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[22:02] <robot_jesus> neverblue:  login screen ?  I actually lied, i have icewm installed now , trying to get gnome so I can do compiz-fusion :)
[22:03] <robot_jesus> i have /etc/alternatives changed for x-window-manager and x-session-manager, I just dont know what values I would use for gnome for those alts
[22:03] <mikebot> Does anyone know why Miro is giving me this error?: http://pastebin.com/d1721da53
[22:03] <ejer> Gokee2_Dlap: what is question? Stable release? it is right now dapper
[22:04] <Gokee2_Dlap> dapper?  I have not seen it....  Is it after festy?
[22:04] <ejer> Gokee2_Dlap: 6.06 = dapper
[22:04] <ejer> it is on that page
[22:04] <Flare183> Gokee2_Dlap: nope dapper, edgy, then fiesty
[22:04] <hexmode> dapper < edgy < feisty < gutsy < hardy
[22:04] <stunatra> What's a good program to log bandwidth being used?
[22:04] <FatalNIX> Is it a known bug that I cannot add music to a playlist in idjc (gutsy)
[22:04] <Brandon_> do I need to install mod_php for php to work?
[22:04] <neverblue> robot_jesus, yes, at the login screen, you can choose which one you boot into
[22:05] <[Scooter]> !medibuntu
[22:05] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:05] <ejer> Gokee2_Dlap: 6.06 = etch, 71.0 = debian testing from 5 months ago - basically
[22:05] <Gokee2_Dlap> SO thats 5 releases back?
[22:05] <Mm|Spunky> Aaah, thank you sirs much <3 to you
[22:05] <iKap> ejer, have you tried GStreamer extra plugins?
[22:05] <pearlbear> ejer: fyi. it's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/134193
[22:05] <ejer> Brandon_: try sudo tasksel and choose lamp server
[22:05] <robot_jesus> neverblue:  I dont have a login screen I do text console, how do I get the login screen back ?
[22:05] <ejer> iKap: i have tried everything ;)
[22:05] <neverblue> robot_jesus, in icewm, no idea
[22:05] <iKap> ejer, well should i install that? will that play almost everything possible in totem?
[22:06] <Gokee2_Dlap> Why was the last cd image I downloaded from the main ubuntu site gutsy?  That would mean its not a stable one?  But it was the default for kubuntu
[22:06] <Brandon_> ejer, umm, why?
[22:06] <ejer> !restrictedformats | iKap
[22:06] <ubotu> iKap: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:07] <ejer> Brandon_: so you have what you need?
[22:07] <robot_jesus> ok brb
[22:07] <Brandon_> ejer, heh who uses mysql these days?
[22:07] <neverblue> Gokee2, sorry, please rephrase ?
[22:07] <Brandon_> ejer, wait do I have to reboot after installing php5 or something for the php function to work
[22:07] <ejer> uh me and every webhost I have ever seen Brandon_?
[22:07] <iKap> ejer, well my only question is.. there are 2 codecs GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin and GStreamer extra plugins.. whats the difference? or do i need both? im only looking to play mpg, wmv, mp3s, basic file formats.
[22:08] <Brandon_> ejer, oh I use postgresql for work related things. to each his own
[22:08] <ejer> iKap: as it says on the page sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras will install everything
[22:08] <iKap> okay thank u
[22:08] <ejer> Brandon_: you can of course choose postgres depending on your needs
[22:09] <Gokee2_Dlap> And what takes 5 releases?  If I tried to put debian names to things it would be experimental = hardy unstable = gutsy testing = feisty stable = edgy and oldstable = dapper
[22:09] <ejer> debian does things differently, nice we have choice right?
[22:09] <Otacon22> brobostigon, hey: i have an idea of how use a cluster: create a super neural network XD
[22:09] <Gokee2_Dlap> That would mean on ubuntu`s site the default download should be dapper?
[22:09] <wolfman2323> ejer: it worked!! thanks.. i was able to send and rcv!..... btw.. is it possible to sync evolution to a nokia phone??
[22:09] <Brandon_> ejer, no I just need php to work. I set up a whole server and forgot to install it. When I did apt-get install php5 and it installed the php function doesn't work.
[22:09] <Stephmw> Otacon22: I have a better idea... use it to play pong
[22:10] <Gokee2_Dlap> But this computer downloaded a while ago was already at feisty
[22:10] <Otacon22> Stephmw, i can use the neural network to play pong.
[22:10] <Brandon_> ejer, I figure I left out a step or something.
[22:10] <ejer> Brandon_: is it enabled a2enmod
[22:10] <Stephmw> Otacon22: that's better
[22:10] <Otacon22> XD
[22:10] <Otacon22> i will send you some videos when finished XD
[22:10] <Brandon_> ejer, huh? I'm confused
[22:11] <Brandon_> ejer, is that a package?
[22:11] <ejer> you need to enable apache modules
[22:11] <ejer> and reload webserver
[22:11] <Brandon_> ejer, how do I do that?
[22:11] <ejer> see installing lamp does all this, so that is why it was first thing I mentioned
[22:11] <ejer> a2enmod
[22:11] <wolfman2323> is it possible to sync nokia phone with evolution
[22:12] <Gokee2_Dlap> Hmm it looks like the main site has dapper or edgy to download
[22:12] <iKap> ejer, i got some weird message in terminal can you send me link to the log pasting place agian..
[22:12] <simps> I am on Ubuntu and I am trying to connect to a Windows Network. Could someone show me this process? Help is much appreciated.
[22:12] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: ubuntu has two kinds of releases.. LST = long time support.. a stable version.. nothing changes unless it's due to security flaws etc.. the normal versions (a new one comes out every 6 months I think).. the last LST is... dapper I think.. the latest normal version is gutsy
[22:12] <Gokee2_Dlap> I wonder how this computer got feisty then
[22:12] <iKap> ejer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53918/
[22:12] <ejer> Gokee2_Dlap: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[22:13] <alfermp> simps: you need to installa samba for used windows network with ubuntu
[22:13] <ejer> iKap: you can safely ignore stuff like this unless something is not working, and you can choose the default most times if asked something
[22:13] <Brandon_> ejer, says php5 is already enabled. So did I jsut have to reboot
[22:13] <iKap> ejer, i only have option to hit "ok"
[22:13] <Gokee2_Dlap> So only LST`s are stable?
[22:14] <simps> alfermp: alright. i have samba
[22:14] <simps> i'm not too sure how to use it though
[22:14] <tehdave> lol samba question...how the hell do I start it?
[22:14] <ePax> How do i change language in my openoffice from english to swedish?
[22:14] <ejer> iKap: so not a big decision :)
[22:14] <sleepless_> I could need some help ... Can anybody tell me who I can download a IDE for turbo pascal ?
[22:14] <ejer> Brandon_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[22:14] <Brandon_> ejer, I just did a reboot
[22:15] <Gokee2_Dlap> So a "normal" user (like a small office) that needs a stable system should only use long term releases?
[22:15] <iKap> ejer, oh okay lol taking your word on it and hit okay. i just didnt quite understand what that was and if it was/would interfere with anything.
[22:15] <alfermp> can u see the windows computer simps?
[22:15] <Rynux9> hey guys, I have a slightly odd question...
[22:15] <iKap> ejer, its also installing some java stuff lol is that normal?
[22:15] <simps> nope, alfermp
[22:15]  * tehdave takes a number for the Samba help -_-
[22:16] <JohnMM> with kde 4 how to you open the dashboard?
[22:16] <Rynux9> can I install Ubuntu onto a External USB hard drive(500GB) and have it behave like it's a internal drive?
[22:16] <Gokee2_Dlap> So the "normal" 6 month releases are for people who feel like testing newer stuff out?
[22:16] <Slart> !who | Gokee2_Dlap
[22:16] <ubotu> Gokee2_Dlap: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:16] <iKap> ejer, nvm it worked, thanks man.
[22:17] <alfermp> simps: you need to ad the same user (ubuntu) and the windows computer
[22:17] <ejer> kewl
[22:17] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Hmm I had several people why commented on releases I was asking any of them
[22:17] <simps> alfermp: how would i do that? :P
[22:17] <ejer> i guess your answer is 'yes' Gokee2
[22:18] <alfermp> example: u user in ubuntu is simps and pass simps1 goto you win computer and add the same user simp with the same pass
[22:19] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: ok.. I'll take a shot at explaining it.. the LST-releases are made for companies and such that need a version that will not change behaviour.. so all scripts that work now will work next month.. the settings for gnome won't change etc etc.. so they can have a stable computer enviroment.. if you don't need that kind of stability, go for the normal versions
[22:19] <InspectorCluseau> It seems that once a 'small user' got a sytem up and running with apps that did the job, would not need to 'upgrade' unless something in the office setup was changed.
[22:19] <PaulButler> i used xrrandr to get dual monitors working, but my monitors are of different resolutions. Now I can move my mouse off-screen (because the virtual screen is rectangular). Is there a way to fix this?
[22:19] <simps> alfermp: add it on the windows comp to where?
[22:19] <xenthro> Q: im trying to free up space on my install... what would help is a file manager that can display folder size in mb and not items. does one exist?
[22:19] <alfermp> Start>Control Panel? Users simps
[22:19] <PaulButler> xenthro: command line, or GUI?
[22:19] <xenthro> PaulButler doesnt matter
[22:20] <PaulButler> xenthro: "ls -hl" will show file sizes in whatever unit makes the most sense
[22:20] <JohnMM> with kde 4 how do you open the dashboard?
[22:20] <xenthro> PaulButler i'll give it a try
[22:20] <arken_> I need help mounting my sansa, i messed with the mount point, and now it won't remount.
[22:20] <simps> alfermp: ok, well i use the same username and password for both windows and ubuntu
[22:21] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Ok, what about for a home user (that has a guy install it for him and maintain it (me)) but does not want to put up with any problems.  I am guessing he should have a LST release?
[22:21] <Rev_Slid3r> is there a way to remove everything (completely) that was installed by 'apt-get build-dep openssh'
[22:21] <alfermp> ok simps
[22:21] <ejer> xenthro: applications>accessories>file usage calculator
[22:21] <ejer> Gokee2_Dlap: problem is a new LTS is about to be released
[22:21] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: right now I'd say go with gutsy.. a lot of things have improved since the latest LST.. wireless, drivers and such
[22:21] <Gokee2_Dlap> ejer, That would be hardy?
[22:22] <ejer> yes
[22:22] <xenthro> ejer ahh perfect. thank you
[22:22] <sexy> ejer
[22:22] <JohnMM> with kde 4 how do you open the dashboard?
[22:22] <arken_>  I need help mounting my sansa e250r, i messed with the mount point, and now it won't remount. How do i recover it?
[22:22] <ejer> i am popular :)
[22:22] <sexy> do you have time for a quick question?
[22:22] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: you'll be missing out on a lot of the good stuff if you go with the LST.. and there will be fewer people that can help you
[22:22] <ejer> !ask
[22:22] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:22] <darkblue_B> Q. Network conection for a fresh install 7.10 - I configured the IP address as static IP, behind a linksys on my local net. My Mac has a feature called Stsic IP with DHCP, and that works.. I can see the Gutsy box on the rght IP, but the Linksys wont let it out to the internet. ??
[22:22] <ejer> Slart: i dunno, it is the right choice for some users
[22:23] <sexy> i just installed ubuntu ppc with the alternate disk, i get into the boot, but after the initial kernel loads its just a black screen
[22:23] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Ok right now it as feisty so I should upgrade to gutsy rather then waiting for hardy (Also when does hardy come out?)
[22:23] <JohnMM> with kde 4 how do you open the dashboard?
[22:23] <Gokee2_Dlap> it is*
[22:23] <PriceChild> !kde4 | JohnMM
[22:23] <ubotu> JohnMM: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:23] <Slart> ejer: hmm.. I'm not so sure.. gutsy, for all it's flaws, seems to be an easier ride when it comes to drivers for example
[22:23] <JohnMM> ah k thanks PriceChild
[22:24] <arken_> Nevermind, I fixed my issue.
[22:24] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: I think hardy is scheduled for april-ish
[22:24] <Slart> !upgrade | Gokee2_Dlap
[22:24] <ubotu> Gokee2_Dlap: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:24] <sexy> :<
[22:24] <ejer> Slart: when you don't want things to change and you want to be able to have same system for 3 years, this is what lts is for
[22:25] <tehdave> Slart: Ubuntu releases every 6 months, so it'll always be april and Octob er
[22:25] <XRonS> you guys have to be kidding. This is crazy. You're telling me that I can just decide one day that I want to look at the source code to Amarok/XMMS/whatever and change things and then rerelease it as "TuxMP3" or something? Why? How do you feed yourselves? Your family? Why release things under the "General Public License"? I've been trying to sell software all my life, and no one buys it. And what's the point? Surely you are smart enough to know that if you t
[22:25] <XRonS> ook "The GIMP" fancied it up, added a few new features, put a 'real' license on it and called it GIMP 3, you'd be a big competitor with Adobe. I want to know what the point is of writing software if you don't profit.
[22:25] <ejer> XRonS: the point? I think you are running it :)
[22:25] <neeto> when Is tart my computer, running xubuntu 7.10, it never loads into the correct resolution for my monitor, and I always have to change the resolution and the refresh rate... how can I force X to load with the correct config?
[22:25] <PriceChild> !offtopic | XRonS
[22:25] <ubotu> XRonS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:25] <sexy> ejer
[22:25] <Slart> ejer: yes, I agree.. but having a user install dapper now seems..well.. more work than it's worth
[22:25] <sexy> did you see my problem?
[22:26] <XRonS> PriceChild: okay
[22:26] <ejer> sexy: the reason seems to be that X is not startig, I have no idea why
[22:26] <Exteris> neeto, before or after the xserver loads?
[22:26] <ejer> Slart: yeah thats what I was saying, wait till hardy
[22:26] <sexy> ctrl+alt+bkspace does nothing
[22:26] <ejer> sexy: ctrl-alt-f1
[22:26] <neeto> Exteris: X loads with the wrong configuration, and I have to change it manually when X loads.
[22:26] <Gokee2_Dlap> XRonS, if you did that you would also need to provide the source code for your new gimp that someone else could hen provide for free (a least as I understand it)
[22:26] <ejer> see if you get a terminal
[22:26] <JohnMM> is the current edition of ubuntu gutsy?
[22:26] <dockhorn> if someone answered my question, i'm sorry i missed it.  if not, here it is: i just got a new monitor, and ubuntu isn't giving me resolution options, just 640x480.  how do i get it to bbehave?
[22:27] <Gokee2_Dlap> then*
[22:27] <Slart> JohnMM: yes
[22:27] <JohnMM> Slart, ok thanks
[22:27] <simps> alfermp: under system->administration->shared folders->general properties, it mentions something about WINS server, is that important to fill in?
[22:27] <Slart> !res | dockhorn
[22:27] <ubotu> dockhorn: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:27] <sexy> nope :(
[22:27] <neeto> XRonS: OSS is all about street credz yo.
[22:27] <Exteris> neeto, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:27] <iKap> can you connect to more then 1 server on xchat? if so.. how? or whats the command.
[22:27] <Gokee2_Dlap> iKap, Yes ctr+t
[22:27] <neeto> Exteris: I have, but to no avail.
[22:27] <alfermp> yes simps
[22:28] <Slart> iKap: /newserver www.serverurl.com
[22:28] <dockhorn> awesome, thanks!
[22:28] <tehdave> Alright...have Samba installed on this box, trying to get  file sharing to work between this and my roommate's windows box. I can see and browse his shared files, but I can't share files. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
[22:28] <simps> what do i put, alfermp?
[22:28] <Slart> iKap: all these command are available if you type /help
[22:28] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Thats works?  Hmm cool
[22:28] <Exteris> neeto, if you run startx from a console, what errors do you get
[22:28] <killaz> hi ubuntu I want to install filezilla on edgy eft but it seems that this is not available in the repository. I have the universe, multiuniverse etc repository installed. Anyone who are still using edgy eft managed to install filezilla?
[22:28] <alfermp> let me check simps
[22:28] <neeto> no errors... it just loads into the wrong resolution
[22:29] <simps> thanks, alfermp
[22:29] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: huh? what works?
[22:29] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, /newserver :)
[22:29] <neeto> Exteris: no errors... it just loads into the wrong resolution
[22:29] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, I have been using xchat for years and never noticed it
[22:30] <Exteris> neeto, how much off?
[22:30] <neeto> You want me to pastebin my xorg.conf?
[22:30]  * Gokee2_Dlap wonders if its in old versions of xchat
[22:30] <Exteris> neeto, k
[22:30] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: hehe.. yes =) I almost never use it.. just to get a new server, then I mark it "connect on startup" and I never have to use it again
[22:30] <neeto> Exteris: It usually loads into 1280x1024@60, but I want it to load into 1400x1050@53
[22:31] <spdf> killaz, you'll have to enable the universe repos
[22:31] <xenthro> Q: im trying to free up as much space as possible, i have already run apt-get clean and autoremove... any other quick tricks for purging crap?
[22:31] <tehdave> Alright...have Samba installed on this box, trying to get  file sharing to work between this and my roommate's windows box. I can see and browse his shared files, but he can't see my computer on the network
[22:31] <killaz> spdf: I have the universe repos installed :-S
[22:31] <Exteris> xenthro: localepurge
[22:31] <neeto> http://pastebin.ca/876610
[22:32] <goofeedude> Hi, all. I am upgrading a few PowerMac G4s to leopard, and want to dual boot with Ubuntu. Does 7.10 have a ppc port? I have the choice of upgrading or installing from scratch. What would be the simplest method for partitioning? Should I install Ubuntu first, or install leopard and then resize to fit Ubuntu on?
[22:32] <spdf> killaz, You're sure?
[22:32] <xenthro> Exteris, what does that do?
[22:32] <bastones> hi. I have downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu and I apparently have to copy it and then burn it onto the CD. It is a .iso extsn, do I simply copy / burn it and then use that CD to install Ubuntu on to my computer?
[22:32] <Exteris> bastones, you can burn an iso directly to disk, it's a binary representation of the disk
[22:32] <spdf> killaz, Just noticed 'edgy eft'
[22:33] <darkblue_B> goofeedude: get a 2nd disk and spare yourself some headache!
[22:33] <Exteris> that's wwhy it's called a 'disk image'
[22:33] <bastones> Exteris, thanks. Burning now
[22:33] <bastones> Do I copy first then burn it?
[22:33] <killaz> well I have it enabled in the Synaptic Manager and in the /etc/apt/sources.list I have universe
[22:33] <blackvd> anyone else have the problem in 7.10 with their dock icons in the panel showing up in random spots on login?
[22:33] <goofeedude> darkblue_B: thanks for the advice, although unfortunately this is a lab at school, and we can't add hardware :-(
[22:33] <Exteris> bastones, not burn it as a file on disk
[22:33] <Gokee2_Dlap> Now onto my next question startup time...  Ubuntu takes a lot longer then Windows XP to start up.  Is there a way to make Ubuntu boot faster?
[22:33] <Exteris> the file 'is' the disk
[22:34] <goofeedude> If it's too much trouble to dual boot, we can just reserve some complete machines for Linux.
[22:34] <Flare183> I'm back
[22:34] <goofeedude> But dual-boting might be nice :-)
[22:34] <xenthro> Q: my /usr/share/doc dir, is that only for man paged?
[22:34] <killaz> spdf: why edgy eft doesnt have filezilla in its repositry?
[22:34] <xenthro> pages&*
[22:34] <spdf> killaz, I believe filezille is availble in the edgy backports
[22:34] <darkblue_B> goofeedude: understood
[22:34] <neeto> Exteris: http://pastebin.ca/876610
[22:34] <tehdave> Alright...have Samba installed on this box, trying to get  file sharing to work between this and my roommate's windows box. I can see and browse his shared files, but he can't see my computer on the network. Anyone know what I can do to fix it?
[22:34] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: there's always a way.. how long is does your bootup take?
[22:34] <killaz> spdf: what's a backport?
[22:35] <Flare183> !backport
[22:35] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[22:35] <darkblue_B> Q. Network conection for a fresh install 7.10 - I configured the IP address as static IP, behind a linksys on my local net. My Mac has a feature called Stsic IP with DHCP, and that works.. I can see the Gutsy box on the rght IP, but the Linksys wont let it out to the internet. ??
[22:35] <simps> alfermp: did you find anything on it?
[22:35] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, About 1.5 min (it was awhile ago I timed it)
[22:35] <arken_> What is a good media managing program with mp3 player support? And don't say Amarok, because I don't like it
[22:36] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Thats after grub
[22:36] <ejer> darkblue_B: why not just use dhcp
[22:36] <simion314> hi, does anyone knows why the shut down buton disapered in my quit window? why it they made this posible? i want to turn off my computer, last time i reinstaled gnome to make it appear again, i do not change anything on gnome or something lke that just install some programs
[22:36] <Flare183> arken_: well sucks for you
[22:36] <Flare183> !media
[22:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:36] <spdf> killaz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[22:36] <Flare183> arken_: juk is your next option
[22:36] <beriii> Exteris: dont work ... :/
[22:36] <newbie> sorry for asking this silly question, but how can I rename a file from command prompt?
[22:36] <alfermp> give a min simps please
[22:36] <darkblue_B> ejer: I wll use it as a server
[22:36] <simion314> i just reinstalled ubuntu, gnome becamed so very slow
[22:36] <tehdave> actually, I think I figured it out...how do I start samba? -_-
[22:37] <Flare183> !samba > tehdave
[22:37] <ejer> darkblue_B: you need to put in gateway and dns settings as well, which should be the IP of your linksys
[22:37] <Flare183> tehdave: hope that helps
[22:37] <simps> sorry, alfermp, just making sure that i didn't miss some directions :P
[22:37] <Gokee2_Dlap> tehdave, /etc/init.d/samba start
[22:37] <ejer> newbie: mv oldfile newfile
[22:37] <alfermp> i thing so you dont need to fill thath
[22:37] <alfermp> simps
[22:37]  * tehdave feels like an idiot.
[22:37] <simion314> ok, bye , if i found how to put that button back i will make a topic for the entire comunit
[22:38] <tehdave> Gokee2_Dlap: Thanks -_-
[22:38] <newbie> ejer, Thanks, I tought the command was ren or rename
[22:38] <simps> ok
[22:38] <ejer> newbie: mv = move, same dif basically ;)
[22:38] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: it might be several things.. network stuff might be taking longer than necessary.. something that tries to start but times out after 20 seconds or so.. unneeded services (for example, cups if you don't have a printer)
[22:39] <newbie> ejer, Allright ;)
[22:39] <alfermp> i'm on windows machine righ now simps let go to mu laptop
[22:39] <boojah> messed up something.. changed the login sounds and now i just can't login.. not even if i do alt+ctrl+f1 stop GDM and startx
[22:39] <simps> kk, alfermp
[22:40] <mohbana> hi, how do i get flash working?
[22:40] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, I want to make cups print through a remote cups (I have not made it work yet be he (the owner of this computer) really wants to print
[22:40] <__aLoneKei__> Hi!
[22:40] <mmInd> Hi all, I'm having a bit of trouble with the desktop cube effect.  When I do ctrl-alt-rightArrow, it spins 2 desktops (skipping one).  It looks like of like a "slide" effect is getting triggered or something.  Any ideas?
[22:40] <neverblue> !flash | mohbana
[22:40] <ubotu> mohbana: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:41] <Exteris> mmInd, i got rid of that by removing the panel applet
[22:41] <zachalink> no pages are loading since I installed these last 3 updates
[22:41] <Exteris> for desktops
[22:41] <irreducibilis> 1279 people! :O
[22:41] <zachalink> and my internet is working and everything
[22:41] <neverblue> mmInd, ask in #compiz
[22:41] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: I haven't really put much effort into optimizing my desktop computer.. but on my laptop I disabled many services that I rarely use..  (I can always start them manually if I really want them)
[22:41] <mohbana> !Restricted | mohbana
[22:41] <mmInd> Exteris, My panel applet is gone.
[22:41] <mmInd> neverblue, oh, ok.  I'll ask in there.  Thanks.
[22:41] <simps> !samba > simps
[22:41] <mohbana> !Gnash | mohbana
[22:41] <arken_> !media
[22:41] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:42] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: I think there is something available that helps you time your bootup and how long each command takes.. can't remember how to do it though..
[22:42] <darkblue_B> ejer: DNS, doh!  that was it thx much
[22:42] <Exteris> mmInd, i have no idea then, i had the same problem a while ago, it just disspaeard after config messing
[22:42] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Ya...  Can cups start on the fly?  Starting cups to print is a little much for this user :)
[22:43] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: you could always make it start after the user logs in.. that way he might not notice it =).. that's how vista does it, afaik
[22:43] <killaz> spdf: thanks I installed filezilla... using the backport.
[22:43] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Is there a easy way to do that?
[22:43] <__aLoneKei__> hi! i'm from Mexico. ultimately i instaled a new login screen, but the login screen doesn't works, n i can't to enter to linux, any ideas?
[22:44] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: easy for mr. Linux Guru... possible for a normal user.. hard for a first time user =)
[22:44] <Exteris> __aLoneKei__, remove the login screen again?
[22:44] <Slart> http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article1723050.ab
[22:44] <__aLoneKei__> i'm newbe
[22:44] <__aLoneKei__> U_u
[22:44] <Exteris> you can log into a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1
[22:44] <Slart> oops.. darn drag and drop
[22:44] <Exteris> and then type startx
[22:44] <xenthro> this disk analyzer is brilliant...
[22:45] <FatalNIX> So, no onehas any idea why i cant add files to the idjc playlist?
[22:45] <Ace2016> Hi all
[22:45] <Ace2016> anyone have an app which can store a to do list on my destop?
[22:45] <curkill__> lolo nan
[22:45] <kenan> what channel can i get help with regards to Screenlets
[22:45] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: look in the menu Preferences, Sessions. There you can select what starts when the user logs in
[22:45] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, Hmm What about for one "experienced with linux but never dealt with bootup much"  Where would he start?
[22:45] <Andres_22rio4> hello, anyone knows where are the icons?
[22:45] <ejer> Ace2016: applications>accessories>tomboy notes
[22:45] <Cosm1> Icons for?
[22:45] <__aLoneKei__> any thing else?
[22:46] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: make cups not start at boot up (I'm not sure how to do it).. add a script or something to Preferences, Sessions that starts cups..
[22:46] <Ace2016> not an applet, something for the desktop
[22:46] <Ace2016> a simple list kind of thing
[22:47] <Cosm1>  
[22:47] <wolfman2323> how could i download this ::: worldofpadman.run
[22:47] <Cosm1> Umm
[22:47] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, cups needs to start as root though right?
[22:47] <__aLoneKei__> ummm
[22:47] <Exteris> wolfman2323, right click -> save as
[22:47] <zumbrujm> hello
[22:47] <ejer> an applet is for the desktop :)
[22:47] <wolfman2323> exteris.. idid that.. nothing happened..
[22:47] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: try something like "sudo /etc/init.d/cups start" if you're a regular user.. skip the sudo if you're already root
[22:48] <Exteris> wolfman2323, if you have the exact link, you could use wgetn
[22:48] <Exteris> -n
[22:48] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, That would pop up a box asking for the user password every boot up?
[22:48] <greywhind> anyone know why my X sessions might refuse to be killed? e.g.: "xinit:  Can't kill server"
[22:48] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: but before you do all this.. try to find out if cups really is taking enough time that it's worth the effort
[22:48] <jklock> hey, I have a usb drive that has a hidden partition on it that I cant delete or reformat. Gparted only shows the part of the drive that doesnt have the autorun software on it. What should I do?
[22:48] <wolfman2323> exteris:brb... let me check it
[22:48] <wolfman2323> thanks
[22:48] <wittyphotons> hey guys; i desperately need help setting up a way to record my sound card's output. is this the right place to ask for that?
[22:48] <iKap> the drivers for my wireless card come up under "restricted drivers" is there any way to download them through terminal.. because i really hate the GUI to install packages?
[22:49] <Slart> Gokee2_Dlap: yes it would.. but I think there are way to get around that... that is one of the many small problems to solve
[22:49] <wittyphotons> ???
[22:49] <zumbrujm> I'm trying to get warcraft III to work with wine, and was wondering where I could get some help
[22:50] <antonio2103> ciao belli
[22:50] <antonio2103> !list
[22:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:50] <iKap> zumbrujm, how ironic i was thinking about doing the same myself today.. but thought itd be too much of a hassle.
[22:50] <GANGSTER> ALGUIEN SABE COMO SE SUBE UN VIDEO A UN MPE4
[22:50] <tehdave> zumbrujm: http://www.winehq.com
[22:50] <__aLoneKei__> Thanx Exteris
[22:50] <Gokee2_Dlap> Slart, ok
[22:50]  * wittyphotons needs help recording sound card audio output
[22:50] <kenan> zumbrujm: you can go to this channel instead #winehq they would know more about wine then in here
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> aki c habla n ingles
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> XD
[22:51] <jklock> hey, I have a usb drive that has a hidden partition on it that I cant delete or reformat. Gparted only shows the part of the drive that doesnt have the autorun software on it. What should I do?
[22:51] <Flare183> !es
[22:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:51] <tehdave> kenan: that on this irc server?
[22:51] <Flare183> !fr
[22:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:51] <zumbrujm> tehdave: I was following the directions there, but I think the problem lies with my graphics
[22:51] <GANGSTER> OK PERO NO DOMINO MUCHO ES MAS CASI NADA
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> ya vez
[22:51] <zumbrujm> kenan: Okay will do.
[22:51] <GANGSTER> OE Y SABES TU ALGO DE ESO
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> mmm k cosa
[22:51] <tehdave> zumbrujm: yeah, #winehq
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> yo tmb soy nuevo n esto XD
[22:51] <GANGSTER>  PARA SUBIR UN VIDEO A UN MPE4
[22:51] <wittyphotons> hello? anyone?
[22:51] <__aLoneKei__> mmm
[22:51] <neeto> when my computer starts, for some reason, SCIM thinks I want to type in korean. how can I make the default language for SCIM english?
[22:52] <Flare183> quit the other lanagugae
[22:52] <GANGSTER> SABES
[22:52] <__aLoneKei__> ps si kieres intento preguntar XD
[22:52] <wittyphotons> am i invisible or something
[22:52] <GANGSTER>  OK SI ENCUENTRAS LA RESPUESTA ENVIADMELO PS AMI MSMS NECECITO URGENTE
[22:52] <kenan> tehdave: yes
[22:52] <__aLoneKei__> hey, anyone knows how to convert a video in mp4?
[22:52] <Flare183> PriceChild: can you help with this? I can't get them to talk english
[22:52] <GANGSTER> MASTER_21_4@HOTMAIL.COM
[22:52] <__aLoneKei__> ps aki mismo voy a preguntar XD
[22:52] <erichj> zumbrujm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=277c819c855fe4cb7d0fb03536fd67de&t=45407
[22:52] <kenan> what channel can i get help with Screenlets?
[22:52] <greywhind> wittyphotons: no, but i don't know the answer to your question
[22:53] <astro76> !es | GANGSTER
[22:53] <ubotu> GANGSTER: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:53] <wittyphotons> greywhind: oh. any idea which channel or whatever i can go to for help?
[22:53] <greywhind> wittyphotons: not sure... could try the forums, if nobody here knows the answer
[22:54] <greywhind> speaking of which, does anyone know how to kill an Xserver that refuses to die?
[22:54] <tehdave> W000000T got samba working XD
[22:54] <neeto> greywhind: sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock
[22:55] <greywhind> neeto: i assume that's .X2 if it's on 2 rather than 0?
[22:55] <neeto> greywhind: I would assume so...
[22:56] <greywhind> neeto: still seems to be running: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running
[22:56] <zachalink> I have a real major issue: I can't play my mp3s.
[22:56] <__aLoneKei__> hey anybody knows to delete a login screen in terminal?
[22:56] <zachalink> It says internal data flow error. Also I keep getting irritating static in my speakers...
[22:56] <zachalink> For no apparent reason.
[22:56] <neeto> greywhind: try ps aux | grep xserver-xorg
[22:57] <PKdoR> How can I display the home folder at the deskto?
[22:57] <wolfman2323>  	how to install this "supertuxkart-0.3-linuxi486.tar.bz2" ive already downloaded this files.... thanks..
[22:57] <__aLoneKei__> is in gdmsetup?
[22:57] <tehdave> The real reason Open source software is better than proprietary software: The feeling of euphoria that comes from finally getting a program to work the way you want it to after hours of tweaking it XD
[22:57] <Exteris> wolfman2323, you can better install supertuxkart from the repos
[22:57] <lazo> how can i install "Screenlets" (http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/Home) for ubuntu ?
[22:57] <mohbana> how is the free flash?
[22:57] <Exteris> wolfman2323, sudo apt-get install supertuxkart
[22:57] <greywhind> neeto: nothing. but ps -A shows a few Xorg processes
[22:57] <zachalink> So, can anyone help me on this very important audio issue?
[22:57] <greywhind> neeto: one of which is taking 100% cpu
[22:58] <wolfman2323> exteris : ah ok..thanks
[22:58] <neeto> greywhind: kill em all
[22:58] <Ern1> Hello, I am having an issue directly opening files from a link in firefox. The links point to .XLS files that are actually xml, but they open using ooffice Writer/Web. They SHOULD open using Calc. Does anyone know how I can change this or enter a manual command in firefox for opening?
[22:58] <greywhind> neeto: they refuse to be killed.
[22:58] <Slart> PKdoR: do you want to have an icon that when clicked opens a nautilus window starting in your home folder?
[22:58] <greywhind> neeto: kill -9 <pid> does nothing
[22:58] <neeto> greywhind: yikes
[22:58] <zachalink> Please...?
[22:58] <iKap> the drivers for my wireless card come up under "restricted drivers" is there any way to download them through terminal.. because i really hate the GUI to install packages?
[22:58] <neeto> greywhind: quarantine, you have a zombie infestation
[22:58] <Slart> PKdoR: or do you want all the files in your home-folder to be visible directly on your desktop
[22:58] <greywhind> neeto: hmm?
[22:58] <PKdoR> Slart: yes a link really
[22:59] <CoLD^MeTaL> hi, i was just wondering if there are any good alternatives to pidgin for IMing...
[22:59] <neeto> greywhind: lol, sorry mate, I'm just messin around. I don't know how to fix it... maybe ask someone else?
[22:59] <Exteris> CoLD^MeTaL, aMSN, mercury.im
[22:59] <wolfman2323> exteris: but what if in future.. i have those kids of files... how to install that package??
[22:59] <greywhind> neeto: k. thanks.
[22:59] <CoLD^MeTaL> thanks
[22:59] <zachalink> still NOT getting help here...
[22:59] <emma> You can put a shortcut to your home folder on your desktop.
[22:59] <Exteris> wolfman2323, you need to compile it from source
[22:59] <DiceyDays> I am about to reinstall gutsy 64. I have a encfs folder. Can I just copy that to my external hardrive, and reinstall encfs on the new system?
[22:59] <Exteris> and you can google that
[22:59] <greywhind> does anyone else know what to do to kill an instance of X that refuses to die to a kill -9?
[22:59] <matttis> Where do I find the gok-doc ?
[23:00] <iKap> the drivers for my wireless card come up under "restricted drivers" is there any way to download them through terminal.. because i really hate the GUI to install packages?
[23:00] <Slart> PKdoR: ok.. start gconf-editor
[23:00] <emma> dicedays - Yes I believe so. You might have to reset the permissions though.
[23:00] <wolfman2323> exteris: ooops... not for me ... for now... newbie here.. heheheh thanks
[23:00] <PKdoR> wasn't there a way to do it hrruogth the conf editor?
[23:00] <neeto> greywhind: are you still using X?
[23:00] <greywhind> neeto: yes
[23:00] <greywhind> neeto: but not that server.
[23:00] <neeto> greywhind: leave X, CTRL+ALT+F1
[23:00] <Exteris> wolfman2323, it's generally better to install software from the repo's easier and more stable
[23:00] <zachalink> um... why isn't anyone helping me on my situation??
[23:00] <DiceyDays> emma- What do you  mean by that?
[23:00] <neeto> greywhind: oh... nevermind then
[23:00] <PKdoR> Slart: I already did
[23:00] <|Gabo|> hi everyone!
[23:00] <wolfman2323> exteris: thanks!!
[23:01] <neeto> greywhind: so this server is running on 2?
[23:01] <PKdoR> Slart: thanks by the way
[23:01] <greywhind> neeto: yes
[23:01] <|Gabo|> someone know a software for multiple downloads?
[23:01] <Exteris> wolfman2323, no problem
[23:01] <Slart> zachalink: patience.. perhaps noone knows the answer to your question.. perhaps you haven't explained enough... perhaps people know and are to lazy to answer.. you're not entitled to get help here.. we're all volounteers with normal day jobs, just like you probably
[23:01] <wolfman2323> exteris:  is there any easy way to synchronise my nokia to evolution
[23:01] <emma> DiceyDays,  I'm planning on doing somethign similar with a reinstall but save my home folder to an external hard drive. There is the possibility that you will have to set the permisions on the copy so that you can use them.
[23:01] <Flare183> !patience
[23:01] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:01] <DiceyDays> emma- Okay
[23:01] <emma> !chown
[23:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:01] <neeto> greywhind: not entirely sure on this, but I believe that CTRL+ALT+F# corresponds to the screen that it's on... so try F3, since F1 is screen 0.
[23:01] <Slart> PKdoR: oh.. hmm.. you wanted a command line way?
[23:02] <zumbrujm> #winehq
[23:02] <dbmoodb> hello how can i get cpuinfo in ubuntu - there is no //dev/cpuinfo to cat
[23:02] <Ern1> Who can write a quick bash script that will open a file please?
[23:02] <neeto> greywhind: and then you can get into the command line and kill it
[23:02] <greywhind> neeto: i've also noticed that when i do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart my normal xserver, it doesn't ever exit.
[23:02] <PKdoR> Slart: no the conf edittor way but I can't find the option anywhare
[23:02] <greywhind> neeto: then i have to do ctrl+alt+delete to force reboot
[23:02] <Exteris> neeto, screen 0 is on f7, f1 to f6 are gettys
[23:02] <Slart> PKdoR: ok.. in applications, nautilus, desktop
[23:03] <xobius> dbmoodb, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zachalink: What all have you recently installed or installed from sources other than the official repos.
[23:03] <matttis> Does GOK work under KDE ?
[23:03] <Slart> PKdoR: sorry.. apps, Nautilus, desktop
[23:03] <neeto> Exteris: I see, so he should be pressing F9?
[23:03] <dbmoodb> oh lol - i'm tired thank you xobius
[23:03] <Exteris> if he wants to go to 2
[23:03] <cpk1> I have 2 computers connected via a crossover cable, they should be able to ping if I give one an ip of 192.168.5.1 and the other 192.168.5.2 right?
[23:03] <neeto> I believe he does
[23:03] <greywhind> neeto: yes, it's on F9, but i'm afraid to go to it, since it will probably just lock me up again and i'll have to reboot
[23:03] <neeto> hmm
[23:03] <Slart> cpk1: I'd say yes
[23:04] <matttis> cpk1: right
[23:04] <cpk1> rawr
[23:04] <Phusion> hey, is Flash still broken? I have tried both gnash and nonfree-flashplayer and neither seem to work
[23:04] <emma> dbmoodb try this:  less /proc/cpuinfo
[23:04] <dbmoodb> anyone know if i where i can find out if it is 64bit capable or not ?
[23:04] <cpk1> I'm not getting any ping =(
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[23:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:04] <Cpudan80_> Is there a way to resync your monitors?
[23:04] <Slart> Phusion: according to the topic it's still broken, yes
[23:04] <Phusion> weak sauce
[23:04] <Phusion> well thanks sladen
[23:04] <Phusion> Slart,
[23:04] <neeto> greywhind: hmm, does an X server automatically load onto screen 2 even though you're not using it?
[23:04] <dbmoodb> - can't see and sse3 so i assume i don't have it :(
[23:04] <Cpudan80_> I redock my laptop -- but the monitor on the desk doesn't come on -- I am basically forced to reboot
[23:04] <greywhind> neeto: no.
[23:04] <matttis> cpk1: does the led glow ?
[23:05] <osfameron> evening
[23:05] <osfameron> what do you recommned for ripping flash video streams ?
[23:05] <dbmoodb> what kind osfameron
[23:05] <greywhind> neeto: i've basically got it set up so that i can start an extra xserver with a script for playing a fullscreen game
[23:05] <deadlylife> hai
[23:05] <neeto> greywhind: why is there an x server running on screen 2 then?
[23:05] <Slart> cpk1: hmm.. could you pastebin the output from "ifconfig" on both computeres? or just list ip-numbers, net mask etc
[23:05] <osfameron> dbmoodb: specifically, something from the BBC iPlayer
[23:05] <dbmoodb> oh.. is it just flash ?
[23:05] <xobius> dbmoodb, what micro have you got?
[23:05] <greywhind> neeto: the problem is that when i quit, it refuses to kill the server
[23:05] <cpk1> matttis: no it doesnt
[23:05] <neeto> greywhind: can I see that script?
[23:05] <emma> I guess that xobius beat me to it
[23:05] <osfameron> dbmoodb: well, the player is flash
[23:05] <osfameron> dbmoodb: specifically http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b007zmk7.shtml?q=primo&start=1&scope=iplayersearch&go=Find+Programmes&version_pid=b007zmjt
[23:06] <iKap> Is there anyway to download/install restricted drivers through terminal instead of using "Restricted Drivers Manager"?
[23:06] <dbmoodb> well xob it is a p4 i was given - it has pci express and is sitting on a 915 board or something like that
[23:06] <osfameron> I could download legally, being in the UK... but it's DRM'd, and only works for Win+IE
[23:06] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:06] <dbmoodb> oh osfameron
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> iKap: yes, apt-get install
[23:06] <Creationist> For the past month or so, EVERYTHING in Ubuntu (Gutsy) has been deteriorating.  Performance is terrible, programs are constantly crashing (all audio players crash, for example).  What can I do to figure out what the heck is going on?  I haven't installed anything out of the repositories or updates.
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !find restricted
[23:06] <iKap> Jack_Sparrow, is that all i have to type? dont i have to be more specifici?
[23:06] <cpk1> oh wait
[23:06] <ubotu> Found: linux-restricted-modules, linux-restricted-modules-386, linux-restricted-modules-generic, restricted-manager, restricted-manager-core (and 12 others)
[23:07] <cpk1> i think it was loose
[23:07] <dbmoodb> isn't there a clause permiting circumvention of protection for compatibility
[23:07] <iKap> specific*
[23:07] <theblogg1> need help please
[23:07] <Slart> iKap: try "restricted-manager --help"
[23:07] <theblogg1> see this
[23:07] <theblogg1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680944
[23:07] <greywhind> neeto: http://rafb.net/p/yMEMlw82.html
[23:07] <neeto> osfameron: can you use firefox's user agent switcher plugin to feign a windows+IE setup?
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[23:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:07] <bastones> Hello. I have so far burnt the latest version of Ubuntu onto a CD and put it in the tower's CD slot. I pressed F12 on initial start of the Dell computer, and I tried IDE (I think) CDR or something and it says F1 to boot or F12 for utlity. How do I install the latest version of Ubutu onto my computer with the CD I have.
[23:07] <mpoulieris> hi
[23:07] <disinterested> http://www.gnucash.org/mirrors/www.linuxvideo.org/2001.08.07/devel/cvs.html this page for help is rediculos
[23:07] <s33t> How do I create a symbolic link?
[23:08] <s33t> from /bin to /usr/share/program/program.sh
[23:08] <iKap> bastones, do you have any thing else installed on the tower?
[23:08] <dbmoodb> bah i hate the bbc and their - you must in the uk stuff
[23:08] <osfameron> neeto: oh, good question.  haven't tried. the FAQ sugests it's that the DRM they use isn't integrated with windows, so the server may do more to check DRM than just look at the Useragent string... but worth a shot
[23:08] <Slart> s33t: ln -s I think
[23:08] <Rufus> how can I make the top bar in ubuntu go away? like so the time and everything is combined in the bottom bar?
[23:08] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:08] <zachalink> bittorrent
[23:08] <cpk1> it WAS loose but still no ping, pastebin in a second
[23:08] <Slart> s33t: man ln for more info. .I don't remember the exact syntax
[23:08] <bastones> iKap: Yes, I currently have v4.1 installed on C: of Ubuntu.
[23:08] <theblogg1> no sound in ubuntu
[23:08] <theblogg1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=680944
[23:08] <theblogg1> please help
[23:08] <dbmoodb> osfameron the alternative is to bittorrent it
[23:08] <zachalink> but that can't be it.. pfft..
[23:08] <mpoulieris> hey -bastones u can download the altest version at iso file type from linux.com
[23:08] <dbmoodb> that way you save the bbc bandwidth
[23:08] <s33t> Slart: okay.
[23:08] <dbmoodb> so you are doing a public service
[23:09] <Rufus> does anyone know?
[23:09] <bastones> mpolulieris: I downloaded the .iso file of Ubunut which is 695 MB size and burnt it to CD
[23:09] <neeto> greywhind: that doesn't look like it would be the problem
[23:09] <PKdoR> what would yo guys say its batter and most stable AWN or screenlets
[23:09] <mpoulieris> yes so
[23:09] <Slart> Rufus: tried right-clicking it?
[23:09] <neeto> greywhind: so... umm... stupid question, but you are sudo killing this thing, right?
[23:09] <bytor4232> Rufus: Move the applets you want down to the bottom panel.  You may have to unlock them first.
[23:09] <iKap> bastones, did you download the iso file? if not, id suggest you do so that comes with the live cd. this way you can install it through the ubuntu live cd, and at the same time being able to add/delete partitions on your harddrive.
[23:09] <zachalink> could it be it?
[23:09] <greywhind> neeto: no, i think it's something deeper, because my normal xserver doesn't exit correctly with ctrl+alt+backspace. and yes, i'm sudo killing it
[23:09] <mrfeetio> can the eee run boot processes in parallel?
[23:09] <Rufus> oh, thanks
[23:09] <mpoulieris> then u must go to bios setup and give the pc boot from ur cd driver
[23:09] <wittyphotons> hey, so, i need help with capturing the audio output of my sound card
[23:09] <bytor4232> Rufus: Then when you right click on the panel you should have an option to delete it.
[23:09] <bastones> iKap: Yes I downloaded the .iso file and burnt it directly onto my CD.
[23:09] <mpoulieris> i install yesterday
[23:10] <neeto> greywhind: well, it's beyond me man, sorry I couldn't help
[23:10] <cpk1> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53921/
[23:10] <greywhind> neeto: no problem
[23:10] <osfameron> dbmoodb: yes, very public service minded... problem is this isn't a) porn, or b) an american import :-)  can't find a torrent for it (yet)
[23:10] <wittyphotons> does anyone around here know how to help me?
[23:10] <bastones> iKap: what do I do next?
[23:10] <ryanakca> how can I make everything in /foo/ that isn't a subdirectory non-executable?
[23:10] <iKap> bastones, okay did you download the verison that comes with the LiveCD as well?
[23:10] <cpk1> looks like it is all correct
[23:10] <osfameron> dammit, can't find where to change the UA string in firefox... probably only ever done that in Opera..
[23:10] <iKap> !install
[23:10] <bastones> umm... I downloaded the latest version of Ubunut from the Ubuntu website if that's what you're asking...
[23:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:10] <s33t> Slart: that worked. Thanks.
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> wittyphotons: Please have a little patience.. It is kinda busy at the moment
[23:10] <iKap> bastones, !install
[23:11] <bytor4232> So, does anyone her really think Xubuntu and Kubuntu will ever change to "Ubuntu KDE Edition" and "Ubuntu XFCE Edition"
[23:11] <PriceChild> !offtopic | bytor4232
[23:11] <ubotu> bytor4232: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> bytor4232: No.. but you can continue that discussion in !offtopic
[23:11] <bytor4232> Shoot.  Sorry guys.
[23:11] <wittyphotons> Jack_Sparrow: okay, just lemme know when you're available. i'll just hang out in the meantime.
[23:11] <iKap> ill brb guys
[23:11] <bastones> iKap: I tried installing by initially putting in the CD at the start of the computer being turned on, it didn't automatically start installing like last time. So I restarted computer and it didn't autoinstall again.
[23:11] <Slart> cpk1: looks correct to me.. are these two ubuntu-machines?
[23:12] <cpk1> yeab both have ubuntu
[23:12] <iKap> bastones, did a ubuntu screen come up atleaste?
[23:12] <iKap> at least*
[23:12] <bastones> iKap: I'll try again see if it installs, one min
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> wittyphotons: Ask your full question every couple minutes, but please avoid the help me and other attempts to grab attention
[23:12] <neeto> how can I stop SCIM from starting up at boot?
[23:12] <Slart> cpk1: and it's a good cable? good as in not-broken
[23:12] <newbie> how can I turn a text file into a executable file from the command prompt? I am not sure if this is some sort of script
[23:13] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:13] <wittyphotons> Jack_Sparrow: aye, thanks for the tip.
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> newbie: Yes you can, but I need to ask what you are trying to do or install
[23:13] <Slart> newbie: hmm.. text files aren't supposed to be executable under normal circumstances.. what kind of text file is it? what is the name?
[23:13] <bastones> iKap: when I turned on computer, it automatically just opening the 4.1 version I installed originally of Ubuntu and not the installation CD in the CD slot :S
[23:14] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:14] <peter120980> Hi, can anyone help with a nvidia 8600gt problem and Gutsy 7.10, basically im trying to use the 64 bit version, i cant load the live cd, just hangs and my screen goes black, i can install on using the alt cd but when i try to boot Ubuntu after GRUB my sreen turns off, i tried the nosplash thing but this time it gets to "*loading local scripts...." or something like, the screen falshes a few times then goes blank but sta
[23:14] <Slart> newbie: if you really want to make it executable do this "chmod a+x yourfilename"
[23:14] <cpk1> Slart: yeah I brought it out because I am setting up another ubuntu box as a router for my house but wanted to do a trial run that wouldnt affect the network before I got into it, so basically it still is like new
[23:15] <iKap> bastones, hrmm thats very odd nothing came up at all? are you sure you burned the disc write?because only thing i can think of right now is that there is something wrong with the disc..
[23:15] <iKap> right***
[23:15] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:15] <bastones> I checked when ubuntu 4.1 came on that the .iso file IS on the CD but I double click it and it just puts it in Read Mode where I'd see all the files
[23:15] <iKap> bastones, because regardless of which o/s you have installed.. the ubuntu liveCD/install options should come up.
[23:15] <Slart> cpk1: I haven't really done networking like that.. without a switch... can't imagen what could go wrong apart from the ip/netmask thingy
[23:16] <bastones> ^
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JFactor: Please dont repeat quite so often, especially every 3 or 4 lines... This is a busy place, we see your question
[23:16] <JFactor> Ok sry
[23:16] <iKap> bastones, well did you burn the iso as an image?
[23:16] <akaihen> hey, shared folder's ubuntu doesn't appear on windows, how can i fix it?
[23:16] <iKap> bastones, dont get me wrong haha but have you burned a working iso disc before?
[23:16] <jensor> hello
[23:17] <juanbond> Hey guys, can you lead me to a page that explains how to setup a dual boot scenario (windows xp) if I already have Gutsy installed?
[23:17] <dbmoodb> juan
[23:17] <juanbond> Yes dbmoodb.
[23:17] <Creationist> Wow... I have to say this is a first:  I'm not being forced to boot into Windows just to get anything done.  Started up Ubuntu today and nothing works... Can't login to my bank website, can't play music, can't launch several apps (they all crash).   What the hell happened to Ubuntu?  It's been going downhill for me the past month or so...
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> juanbond: Read up on grub for a start
[23:17] <dbmoodb> that is always a pain
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > juanbond
[23:17] <iKap> juanbond, read on grub
[23:17] <Creationist> I mean I "AM" being forced to login to Windows.
 u should check it on forum first dude
[23:17] <dbmoodb> yes, but partition first
[23:18] <dbmoodb> oh and any reason why you cannot use virtualbox ?
[23:18] <wittyphotons> how do i record the audio output from my sound card in gutsy gibbon? i have an alc268 sound card.
[23:18] <bastones> iKap: I copied the CD to the writable disc and Windows wizard put the .iso file on the CD. Not sure if I did it correct or what. Fortunately I have one more CD that I can use incase I do it wrong the first time, which seems more apparent I did.
[23:18] <iKap> juanbond, or you can just create it a ntfs partition
[23:18] <MagicDuck> hi, is there something similar to TortoiseSVN on linux
[23:18] <xobius> juanbond, didn't detect it when you installed Gutsy?
[23:18] <mohbana> hey guys how is the free implementation of flash i cant seem to install flash plugin
[23:18] <dbmoodb> - not good mohbana
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > mohbana
[23:19] <dbmoodb> doesn't work on a lot of sites
[23:19] <iKap> bastones, yes because if the iso is not burned the way its suppose to be burned, regardless of its on the cd.. it will not do you any good as a boot disc, it will just hold the file for no reason lol which is kind of a waste.
[23:19] <dbmoodb> - isn't the flash thing fixed yet ?
[23:19] <Slart> dbmoodb: you checked the topic.. right?
[23:19] <iKap> bastones, are you currently on Xp?
[23:19] <dbmoodb> yes just then - i assumed it would be fixed
[23:19] <juanbond> i use virtualbox right now, but i need to start doing more intensive development where i need a dedicated windows machine.
[23:19] <bastones> iKap: yes, I am using my XP laptop to burn the file to CD, etc
[23:20] <iKap> bastones, and what program are you using to burn the disc agian.. did you say windows wizard?
[23:20] <iKap> again*
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bastones: You do not burn the file to a cd, you burn it as an image.. subtle difference
[23:20] <mohbana> anyone know when we can expect a fix
[23:20] <bastones> how would I do that? :P I'm very new to this stuff, so need a heads up
[23:21] <iKap> mohbana, fix for what?
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> bastones: isorecorder is freeware that burns iso's very nicely
[23:21] <mohbana> i mean an official fix to the tar corrupt message
[23:21] <iKap> mohbana, for flash?
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mohbana: No one knows
[23:22] <GuySoft> hey all, is there a way to use the ubuntu livecd to benchmark the CPU and GPU of a pc?
[23:22] <dbmoodb> can't some one just ask adobe if ubuntu can store it in their area somewhere
[23:22] <jklock> anyone know how to remove a write-protected, hidden partition from a usb pen drive?
[23:22] <iKap> dbmoodb, are you having trouble with flash?
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> dbmoodb: Please take the discussion to !ot
[23:22] <dbmoodb> btw does the 7.10 livecd work with nvidia card - i have had no luck with a laptop here
[23:22] <dbmoodb> - no i'm not ikap
[23:23] <iKap> !ot
[23:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:23] <JFactor> Does Anyone know how I can use my s-video output in gutsy, I have a Hp DV9000 laptop with Nvidia 6150 card.
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dbmoodb: Yes it works with nvidia, I do need to use F6 and noapic or another modifier more than I would like
[23:23] <sexy> Solved
[23:24] <sexy> if anyone comes here asking about gutsy on a g4
[23:24] <dbmoodb> - really ah so noapic and what else gets it running ?
[23:24] <sexy> tell em to install fiesty
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> JFactor: have you gone through the nvidia troubleshooting page..
[23:25] <JFactor> Jack_Sparrow: no
[23:25] <wittyphotons> how do i record the audio output from my sound card in gutsy gibbon? i have an alc268 sound card.
[23:25] <dbmoodb> witty do you have a microphone
[23:25] <Thorsten11> hi all
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia > JFactor
[23:26] <wittyphotons> i do; but for my purposes i need the audio captured straight from the sound card rather than speaker-to-microphone. the audio data is to be analyzed for phonetic features, so it needs to be of relatively high quality.
[23:26] <JFactor> what does that mean
[23:26] <danbhfive> wittyphotons: have you tried audacity?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> JFactor: It means you should have a pm from the bot..
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[23:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:26] <wittyphotons> danbhfive: yes, i have tried audacity, but it doesn't seem to be picking up any sound for some reason.
[23:27] <JFactor> oh ok
[23:27] <dbmoodb> yes sure ah mmm you should be able to do it... mmm if you feed audacity the normal device instead of the input :)
[23:27] <wittyphotons> the what?
[23:27] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i dont think ur pipes | are working
[23:27] <JFactor> I have the driver
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia | JFactor
[23:27] <ubotu> JFactor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:27] <emma> what is /proc/buddyinfo all about?
[23:27] <jklock> I cannont set the drive to read write, it is forced into read only mode
[23:27] <JFactor> Everything works fine except the s-video
[23:27] <jklock> it is mount /dev/scd1
[23:27] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, there we go,.,.;)
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> JFactor: There is also a troubleshooting area and section for questions...
[23:28] <nclife> on Screen Resolution Preferences I only have the option until 1024 x 768, does that mean my graphic card cannot handel a 1440 x 900 resolution?
[23:28] <peter120980> Hi, can anyone help with a nvidia 8600gt problem and Gutsy 7.10, basically im trying to use the 64 bit version, i cant load the live cd, just hangs and my screen goes black, i can install on using the alt cd but when i try to boot Ubuntu after GRUB my sreen turns off, i tried the nosplash thing but this time it gets to "*loading local scripts...." or something like, the screen falshes a few times then goes blank but sta
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Difference is registered and non-registered users
[23:28] <Gokee2_Dlap> Ubuntu takes about 58 sec to what might be login screen (it uses auto-login so its hard to tell) XP takes 42 sec to login.  Is there a key I can hit to get rid of the spash screen during bootup so I can see whats going on?  I tried all the F keys during bootup and the splash screen would not go away
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nc
[23:28] <wittyphotons> dbmoodb: what does 'feed audacity the normal device instead of the input' mean exactly?
[23:28] <bod_> guys, im trying to resize an image in gimp from 345x375 to 640x480 but when i do it seems to get smaller,.,.any ideas?
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> nclife: It may also mean you are running vesa driver whichhas 1024 max res
[23:29] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, so using > is for non registered users? cool,.,.sorry for the post then
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:29] <nclife> *handle
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I dont normally look before trying to send it the > way
[23:29] <bod_> ;)
[23:30] <pieisgood4589> lol
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: that is what resampling does
[23:30] <gasparzenhox> alow
[23:30] <gianluca> hello company of ubuntu!!
[23:30] <gasparzenhox> hello
[23:30] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  what?
[23:30] <bod_> gianluca, hi
[23:30] <bod_> hi
[23:30] <bastones> I have installed isorecorder and going okay so far. I guess I'd use this to burn the .iso file onto the CD... any help on how to would be appreciated :P
[23:30] <Billybob> anyone familiar with Pure ftp?
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: You are trying to upsize it?
[23:31] <gasparzenhox> but..
[23:31] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, yer,. i need it to be 640x480 so i can use it as a grub image
[23:31] <idd003> join #innercircle
[23:31] <gasparzenhox> is posible burn a image iso in cd rw?
[23:31] <bod_> gasparzenhox, yes
[23:31] <seko_kau> hi all
[23:31] <nclife> Jack_Sparrow, how could I check that?
[23:31] <seko_kau> i have a question
[23:31] <seko_kau> i'm using ATI radeon 9550 but it is not support to install ubuntu
[23:31] <bod_> shoot
[23:31] <gasparzenhox> ah..thnx
[23:31] <bastones> I mean... how would I burn a .iso image onto CD with isorecorder
[23:32] <Billybob> pure ftp anyone?
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> nclife: You can look at your xorg.conf
[23:32] <cowbud> using dapper LTS it seems that when I boot I lose loop back interface lo if I do /etc/init.d/networking restart it comes up fine. I have been poking around but can't find anything that leads to why this is  happening (including bug reports I have found online for dapper) any ideas?
[23:32] <zoom> hi !
[23:32] <Thorsten11> hello
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> seko_kau: Yes the 9550 works... for look into fglrx
[23:33] <bod_> cowbud, not sure why it does it but you could write a script to perform that command everytime you boot
[23:33] <zoom> i don t find an equivalent at apt-get source with aptitude thanks ?
[23:34] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, so how do i resize my image?
[23:34] <peter120980> ive been over the forums for the past 2 days, can anyone point me in the right direction to relsolve my issue?
[23:34] <emma> what is /proc/buddyinfo all about?
[23:35] <Billybob> i want to run an ftp server off ubuntu...any ideas?
[23:35] <brodie> aptitude install vsftpd, aptitude install pureftpd, aptitude install proftpd. pick your poison
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: image, scale image in gimp
[23:35] <bod_> Billybob, seamonkey is a mozilla web buider that has ftp stuff
[23:35] <flatline-kun> peter120980: maybe, what is it?
[23:35] <peter120980> Hi, can anyone help with a nvidia 8600gt problem and Gutsy 7.10, basically im trying to use the 64 bit version, i cant load the live cd, just hangs and my screen goes black, i can install on using the alt cd but when i try to boot Ubuntu after GRUB my sreen turns off, i tried the nosplash thing but this time it gets to "*loading local scripts...." or something like, the screen falshes a few times then goes blank but sta
[23:35] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, but the image looks smaller when i do that?
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> what does the res show after
[23:36] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, its meant to get bigger
[23:36] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, how do i check?
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I just took a 300 x xxx  and made it 640 x xxx
[23:36] <Thorsten11> anyone know what would cause a mac address of ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on a NIC with a vista/ubuntu system?
[23:36] <Billybob> brodie: i used the synaptic package manager to get pure ftp...but i can't find it in the program menu...i'm new to this so how do i get into pure ftp?
[23:37] <brodie> Billybob: it's a daemon, it doesn't have a graphical interface. you can configure it in /etc/pureftp[something]
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: If you do it right, it should show up in the top bar of gimp, and it should appear larger
[23:37] <brodie> and you can reload the configuration with /etc/init.d/pureftpd reload
[23:37] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, omg it just worked,.,. ggggrrrrr,.,. sorry for ur wasted time,. cheers dude
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:38] <Billybob> brodie: ok, i'll have a look...
[23:38] <xobius> emma http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/lk/lk-9.html
[23:38] <cowbud> bod_: yah but i'd rather root cause it :)
[23:38] <bod_> cowbud, kk
[23:38] <nclife> Jack_Sparrow, here is my xorg.conf file  http://pastebin.com/m37cd6d1d , I am unable to find any vesa reference.
[23:38] <tacone> !flash
[23:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[23:38] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:38] <JFactor> could anyone send me a new sources.list file for gutsy, mine is not functioning properly
[23:38] <xobius> emma, look at Kernel memory allocation
[23:39] <Willabee> Right now I'm running shockwave through firefox on WINE, and firefox freezes whenever I close the tab that uses shockwave
[23:39] <jack__> hey
[23:39] <jack__> anyone getting shitty range with the bcm43xx driver?
[23:40] <Willabee> Any way to fix or is it just an error from WINE?
[23:40] <Daenyth> is there any place where I can find the code for unetbootin? I'm trying to use it from a windows 98 machine and it seems to be leaving my config.sys file blank, preventing me from booting into the linux installer
[23:40] <Daenyth> is there anyone here who could help me with that?
[23:41] <Daenyth> I looked on sourceforge but the cvs tree is blank
[23:41] <Daenyth> and I didn't see a source package
[23:42] <deadlylife> *away
[23:42] <Daenyth> anyone have any idea...?
[23:42] <Teshadael> Could anyone help me getting my video drivers installed/working.  It's an ATI card and everything I've tried ends up with the mesa ogl renderer.
[23:42] <Daenyth> or just a config.sys that would work to boot the installer
[23:42] <support> hello. how to enable site in ubuntu server?
[23:43] <zumbrujm> hello, I'm having trouble getting my graphics to work properly, especially when playing games, how could I check to see if it's working the way it should?
[23:43] <rsk> support: what site?
[23:43] <support> I tried sudo a2ensite sitename but it says that it is disabled already
[23:44] <Daenyth> hmm, nevermind, I seem to haved found the code..
[23:45] <TubaraoSardinha> Hello!
[23:45] <Dr_willis> !hello
[23:45] <Doctor-Who> Hello!
[23:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:46] <support> hello..anybody here who could assist me? how I tried sudo a2ensite sitename to enable the site but it won´t work. It says that site is already disabled...anybody could help me?
[23:47] <nclife> Could anyone tell me if I have hopes to get a 1440 x 900 resolution with this? http://pastebin.com/m37cd6d1d
[23:47] <DOOM_NX> which is the command for 7zip to run? sudo 7zip doesn't seem to work...
[23:47] <Dr_willis> 7zr
[23:47] <DOOM_NX> ooh thank u
[23:47] <Dr_willis> hit 7 then tab :)
[23:47] <Daenyth> man 7z
[23:48] <DOOM_NX> sorry, i'm newbie thank u
[23:48] <Daenyth> np
[23:48] <support> hello..anybody here who could assist me? I tried sudo a2ensite sitename to enable the site but it won´t work. It says that site is already disabled...anybody could help me?
[23:48] <martyn> support - without been patronising - did you restart Apache?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Ive rarely used 7zip unnder linux.  But the TAB trick is worth rembering.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> !tab
[23:48] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:48] <DOOM_NX> true
[23:48] <DOOM_NX> ok what's the best compression software for ununtu?
[23:48] <support> yeah..I restarted it using sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[23:49] <Dr_willis> DOOM_NX,  best - depends on what you are doing
[23:49] <soldats> DOOM_NX, tar + gzip
[23:49] <Dr_willis> and the data.. and how you define best. :) Best size, best speed, best other features
[23:49] <DOOM_NX> smallest size
[23:49] <Starnestommy> or bzip2 instead of gzip
[23:49] <support> and when I enter http://127.0.0.1/ it says the not found.
[23:49] <brodie> DOOM_NX: gzip compresses more quickly, bzip2 compresses more slowly but with a higher ratio
[23:49] <crimsun> lzma is recommended instead of either.
[23:49] <Dr_willis> id say learn the ins and outs of gzip and bzip2 for linux ussage.
[23:50] <Daenyth> and tar
[23:50] <wolfman2323> does ubuntu have the shortcut like widgets on desktop (i dont know what to call it).. like in  MAC system...
[23:50] <Dr_willis> Some of the other archive tools dont rember the file perissions/ownership/modes
[23:50] <DOOM_NX> thanks a lot
[23:50] <martyn> support - hmm - did you USED to get the standard "It Works!" message from Apache?
[23:50] <Daenyth> wolfman2323: you can install them
[23:50] <dkbg> I'm looking to share a data partition (using ext3) across distros, but I'm having permission issues because while most distros use UIDs starting at 1000, fedora starts at 500, how would I be able to change my fedora UID to 1000 with as little pain as possible?
[23:50] <Tm_T> wolfman2323: gdesklets perhaps
[23:50] <wolfman2323> daenyty: how?
[23:51] <Daenyth> compiz has some things, or as Tm_T said, gdesklets
[23:51] <Dr_willis> i though compiz had somthing like that.. as Daenyth  mentioned. :)
[23:51] <wolfman2323> Daenyth:  ok thanks.
[23:51] <Dr_willis> but i hate widgets on the desktop
[23:51] <velko> dkbg, the user ids are specified in /etc/passwd
[23:51] <wolfman2323> tmt: thanks
[23:52] <support> I got it fixed.. the correct command is sudo a2ensite sitename not sudo a2ensite sitename to enable it..
[23:52] <DOOM_NX> is there a frontend for bzip2?
[23:52] <shanepardue> I'm looking into Amazon's S3 service for remote storage, is it a good deal for storing around 100gb?
[23:53] <Daenyth> DOOM_NX: many
[23:53] <DOOM_NX> ark?
[23:53] <Daenyth> that's one
[23:53] <DOOM_NX> thanks
[23:54] <Dr_willis> mc can also work with arvhives
[23:54] <andreas> hey what is the command to locate the executable of , say kate?
[23:54] <martyn> support - good on you! Good luck. But cannot see difference between those two commands..?
[23:54] <Dr_willis> 'whereis kate'
[23:54] <shanepardue> andreas - whereis kate would work
[23:54] <Dr_willis> or 'locate kate'
[23:54] <Daenyth> Does anyone here know anything about using unetbootin from win98? It doesn't seem to be editing my config.sys file. Should I use the config.sup file that I found in the bzr source tree?
[23:54] <Starnestommy> or 'which kate'
[23:54] <andreas> thx
[23:54] <Francis> This might sound like a stupid question but someone has recommended a dell pc with ubuntu on it so if I went for this would I still be able to run iTunes & MSN and also sync my ipod?
[23:54] <Daenyth> Francis: sortof
[23:55] <y_> Can I get an expert opinion on upgrading to 7.10? With Fedora, I found nothing but anger and punishment with every new release.
[23:55] <dkbg> velko: haha, just as I was about to ask you another question a reboot confirmation dialog from some updates popped up as I was pressing enter...
[23:55] <Daenyth> you wouldn't use itunes or msn, but alternate programs with similar function
[23:55] <Daenyth> Francis: pidgin in placeof msn for example, gtkpod or amarok in place of itunes
[23:55] <velko> dkbg, :-)
[23:55] <dkbg> velko: it was amazing timing
[23:55] <Dr_willis> y_,  i have found it better to just keep ./home on its own partition, and do clean installs. :)  But im only on a 2 user system here.
[23:55] <DOOM_NX> is ark for Kubuntu?
[23:55] <Daenyth> also, if you have an ipod, you should check out rockbox, it's MUCH better than the apple firmware
[23:56] <mcisbackuk> I don't suppose there a plugin for pidgin which displays your Ubuntu version next to your name like *ME* ~ Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy etc?
[23:56] <Francis> Daenyth: would I still be able to sync my ipod using one of those programs?
[23:56] <dkbg> velko: anyway, wouldn't I have to alter the UIDs on all files owned by my user or something?
[23:56] <y_> Dr_willis -- that's handy, except I'm running a 20 computer ubuntu lab =(
[23:56] <martyn> Francis - I second Daenyth on those programs. Improvement in stability too!
[23:56] <shanepardue> Daenyth: I have found Rockbox to most enjoyable, but not for the faint of heart
[23:56] <Daenyth> really>
[23:56] <wirechief4> identify silvermachine4
[23:56] <Daenyth> I found it to be extremely painless
[23:56]  * Daenyth shrugs
[23:56] <Dr_willis> y_,  you may want to look into netbooting the other 20 machines.
[23:56] <shanepardue> It's been painless for me, but I know how it works a little better than someone who uses itunes to sync it
[23:56] <jeffMASTERflex> mcisbackuk: i'm sure pidgin is python extensible. you can do that yourself
[23:57] <Francis> So would Rockbox sync to my touch?
[23:57] <velko> dkbg, if you change the uid for your user, the files wont belong to him after that. you'll have to chmod -R /home/myuser to regain ownership
[23:57] <Daenyth> Francis: you can of course always dual boot linux and windows if you really need windows programs
[23:57] <y_> Dr_willis: Yep, its already set up like that (albeit in a strange way).
[23:57] <dkbg> velko: ok, thought so
[23:57] <Daenyth> Francis: rockbox doesn't sync ipods, it's a replacement for the ipod firmware, the stuff running ON the ipod
[23:57] <Dr_willis> y_,  depending on your needs. :)  Many people have no issues upgrading. I like to see how the new 'releases' are by default since i hang in the tech support channel.
[23:57] <Daenyth> it's much better
[23:57] <mcisbackuk> jeffMASTERflex: OK thanx
[23:57] <Daenyth> Francis: check out their site
[23:57] <Francis> Oh right
[23:57] <DOOM_NX> is ark only for decompression? i can't find how to compress with it...
[23:57] <velko> dkbg, sorry chown, not chmod of course
[23:57] <Daenyth> so, anyone have any clue about unetbootin?
[23:57] <Teshadael> Could anyone help me getting my video drivers installed/working.  It's an ATI card and everything I've tried ends up with the mesa ogl renderer.
[23:58] <y_> Dr_willis -- netboot will upgrade all clients?
[23:58] <dkbg> velko: seems like a pretty important thing to point out but maybe I just have too many gaps in my knowledge, yeah chown
[23:58] <Daenyth> or is there a unetbootin irc channel?
[23:58] <Dr_willis> y_,  well im refering to where the machines boot up and get all the info from the server.  the clients dont even have hd;s :)
[23:58] <dkbg> velko: I guess the -R option means recursive, ok thanks a lot
[23:58] <velko> dkbg, yep
[23:58] <martyn> Daenyth - I started out like that with a dual boot machine. I have just about weened myself off MS Windows now and cannot remember last time I booted into Windows XP. It is still there but haven't used it in months. Now if ever I DO boot into it I have to spend ages doing 'updates'.
[23:59] <Daenyth> be very careful with -R to never spcify .*, as that will also nail everything ABOVE where you are (matches '..')
[23:59] <y_> Dr_willis -- my clients have hardrives and are connected by wireless.... its somewhat laggy doing that (but that's how they are set up now)
[23:59] <Daenyth> martyn: one time windows pissed me off too much so I formatted and spent a week installing slackware
[23:59] <Dr_willis> y_, Most of the time for upgradeissues. it tends to be wireless/video/other hardware driver issues. - so Wireless may be an issue. dependong onthe hardware.
[23:59] <Daenyth> it only took me 8 tries to get a working kernel compiled
[23:59] <Daenyth> :D
[23:59] <dkbg> velko: actually, should I change the GID as well to match the new UID or does that not matter?
[23:59] <Francis> Daenyth, the way I've been recommended is a Dell PC with Ubuntu pre-installed, so will any of those programs syn my ipod touch from the ubuntu os as im assuming there will be no windows to dual boot
[23:59] <y_> Dr_willis -- it gets a little intense when everyone is on the network. That's why I want "not-so-thin" clients. =)
[23:59] <Dr_willis> y_,   there may be better ways  do handle it all. but as i said. ive rarely had to mess with upgrading.