| cheguevara | ping stdin | 00:58 |
|---|---|---|
| blizzzek | gn8 | 01:00 |
| Jucato | hm... the new wallpaper looks... hm.... :) | 03:04 |
| ryanakca | Is anyone else having trouble starting amarok 3.5.8 in KDE4? | 03:57 |
| ryanakca | s/3.5.8/1.4.8/ | 04:02 |
| DasKreech | KDE? | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | no | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | 22:55:37 < ryanakca> Is anyone else having trouble starting amarok 3.5.8 in KDE4? | 04:03 |
| DasKreech | kk | 04:03 |
| DasKreech | Ho Hibbsee | 05:01 |
| DasKreech | I mean Hobbsee | 05:14 |
| stdin | cheguevara: pong (if you're still awake) | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | heya DasKreech | 06:25 |
| DasKreech | Hobbsee: So lucky | 06:27 |
| DasKreech | Just got me in bed | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:27 |
| DasKreech | Night | 06:28 |
| DasKreech | Hobbsee: Are you near Aseigo and canllaith ? | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | DasKreech: now? i'm north of them, yeah | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | they're in another state | 06:29 |
| DasKreech | ok so no chance of stopping in for tea? :) | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 06:32 |
| DasKreech | :) night | 06:33 |
| blizzzek | moin | 07:05 |
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| doc__ | hi there | 08:20 |
| mornfall | Morning. | 09:54 |
| Riddell | mornfall: adept looking good but crashed on me when I "Apply Changes" Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap | 10:13 |
| mornfall | Hmh. | 10:14 |
| mornfall | Apt hates me. | 10:14 |
| mornfall | I haven't seen that bug for a long time though. | 10:15 |
| mornfall | Are you sure it's alpha2? | 10:15 |
| mornfall | Ie. does it have file list under details? | 10:15 |
| Riddell | mornfall: there's a Files tab with headers, it doesn't list anything | 10:22 |
| Riddell | mornfall: hah, you know what might help? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | if I ran it as root | 10:25 |
| Riddell | works perfectly | 10:25 |
| mhb | hehe :o) | 10:25 |
| mornfall | Ahh! | 10:25 |
| mornfall | : - ). | 10:25 |
| mornfall | Yes, those checks are still missing. | 10:25 |
| mornfall | Riddell: It only lists things for installed packages. I have fixed the tab title post-alpha I guess. | 10:26 |
| mhb | yup, it works | 10:26 |
| mhb | nice | 10:26 |
| mornfall | I have fixed some major slowness when selecting packages as well post-release, so no need to report that : - ). | 10:26 |
| mornfall | (Related to filling the list.) | 10:27 |
| mhb | some minor tweakies remain, though (if you click to Details after you install a package, it's not updated) | 10:27 |
| mornfall | Could be. | 10:27 |
| mornfall | Please note such minor issues and mail a summary to me, if you can. | 10:28 |
| mornfall | These are most easily overlooked and cause unneccessary unfinished look. | 10:28 |
| mhb | sure | 10:28 |
| mhb | Riddell: if you write "perli" in the search box, do you see the correct package? | 10:34 |
| mhb | Riddell: it appears to me that the result flashes for a second, then disappears | 10:35 |
| mornfall | Would be great if you also tested the debconf stuff. | 10:35 |
| mornfall | It worked for me, but that probably doesn't guarantee anything. | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'd like your opinion concerning flash support in konqueror | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we have all the patches debian has to make it to work, but it doesn't.... | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is a patch for kdebase and one for kdelibs | 10:38 |
| Riddell | mornfall: installing gdm it seems to hang http://pastebin.com/m4287af94 | 10:39 |
| mornfall | Ah. Subst, that I haven't encountered yet. | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm unsure if we have to rebuild kdebase against kdelibs in fact..... | 10:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do they have branch patches too? | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it currently still fails | 10:39 |
| mornfall | I'll have to check with the docs and implement that. | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | branch patches ? | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what do you mean by branch patches ? | 10:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: patches that contain the latest svn | 10:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not to what I've seen | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: btw we can expect a 3.5.9 for hardy right ? | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then no need to waste time on this, and just wait for 3.5.9 to get flash fixed, imho | 10:42 |
| mornfall | Riddell: I don't quite understand the SUBST bit, but I'll look at it later (the documentation and the debug output confuse me at best). | 10:43 |
| Jucato | Another mass deployment of Kubuntu (and Edubuntu) http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1163450117 (page 2 mentions that fact) | 10:44 |
| * Jucato wonders why this didn't come to the LoCo's attention... :( | 10:45 | |
| Riddell | mornfall: sun-java6-jre also gets stuck http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/adept-debconf.png | 10:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, although it would be nice to have patches for released versions | 10:46 |
| mornfall | Ok, CAPB, another one. Interesting that I always hit the easy testcases : - ). | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: agree on that point | 10:46 |
| mornfall | (I haven't found package that would use either of those two. But CAPB is easy enough.) | 10:46 |
| mornfall | Noting both. | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I'll review the patches today with comparison to debian and svn commits, and eventually will rebuild kdebase against kdelibs to be sure I'm not missing something | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: then if it doesn't work..... we'll wait for 3.5.9 | 10:47 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Hm, you have icons missing there... | 10:47 |
| mornfall | Weird. | 10:47 |
| Riddell | Jucato: excellent! | 10:47 |
| Riddell | mornfall: what's a good debconf test package? | 10:48 |
| Jucato | Riddell: yeah. gonna try to round up the Ubuntu-PH team and see where we can help :) | 10:48 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Dunno, I tried something from cups, resolvconf and a bunch of random ones that asked questions during upgrade. | 10:48 |
| mornfall | And x11-commond and xserver-xorg. | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: postfix for example | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: flash works :) | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I forgot the gtk-qt-engine patch :) | 10:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ah hah | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about that I noticed gtk-qt-engine doesn't change gnome apps fonts now..... | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll try to get that fixed today | 10:51 |
| luisbg | I'm making a package of a qt app I've written, can I have qmake move some files I need to /usr/share/myapp/ or do I have to do this in the packaging? I would prefer in qmake | 11:01 |
| Riddell | luisbg: that's a question for someone who knows about qmake, maybe try #qt, I'm sure it must be able to but if it can't it's trivial to do in the packaging | 11:02 |
| luisbg | hello Jonnathan | 11:03 |
| Riddell | hola luisbg | 11:03 |
| luisbg | yeah, in packaging it would be editing the posinst | 11:04 |
| luisbg | postint* | 11:04 |
| luisbg | but I prefer trying to make it work with qmake | 11:04 |
| luisbg | I'll ask in #qt | 11:04 |
| stdin | can't you just do it via the .install | 11:04 |
| luisbg | stdin, hm? | 11:04 |
| stdin | debian/package.install (or debian/install) <- it has the location to put all the files | 11:05 |
| stdin | you can move files about with that too | 11:05 |
| Riddell | luisbg: looking at packages which use qmake they mostly seem to install the files manually in debian/rules http://cdbs.ueberalles.net/_qmake.mk.html | 11:06 |
| luisbg | Riddell, wow, thanks | 11:08 |
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| mornfall | Re. Any success with debconf? | 11:52 |
| mhb | mornfall: is there a list of packages that use it in some way? | 11:53 |
| Riddell | mornfall: postfix also got stuck on the same thing as sun-java | 11:53 |
| Riddell | mornfall: resolveconf did talk debconf but didn't ask me anything just resolved it itself | 11:53 |
| mornfall | Riddell: You can sudo vi /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and remove the seen flag on resolvconf. | 11:55 |
| mornfall | Postfix probably does have CAPB backup as well. | 11:56 |
| mornfall | Well, I'll fix those this week, together with the other fixes that should be enough for alpha3. | 11:56 |
| mornfall | And I should implement database locking and root/nonroot warnings. And recovery. That would be a good set of alpha3 goals. | 11:58 |
| Riddell | mornfall: resolvconf still seems to install without me needing to answer anything, although the debconf previous/next buttons do appear briefly http://paste.ubuntu.com/3970/ | 11:58 |
| mornfall | Ah. | 11:59 |
| mornfall | I know. | 11:59 |
| mornfall | sudo sh -c 'DEBIAN_PRIORITY=low adept_manager' | 11:59 |
| mornfall | (Well, I don't have a dedicated testing install, so I can't really play too much with those.) | 12:00 |
| mornfall | Also | 12:00 |
| mornfall | Hm, nevermind, adept_debconf is not packaged (that's a graphical dpkg-reconfigure thingy). | 12:00 |
| Riddell | wow, genius, it works | 12:01 |
| mornfall | \o/ : - ). | 12:01 |
| mornfall | Hm, add the missing widgets to alpha3 goals (multiselect and maybe some others). | 12:02 |
| Riddell | apachelogger__: I've got the kde menu patches working for me, I think I'll just upload | 12:40 |
| Riddell | trouble is it needs every kde 4 package edited to install its .desktop files into the new location | 12:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: any plans to upload kdelibs (3)? | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nope, I already uploaded yesterday | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any fix I should look at ? | 12:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you said you were adding the gtk-engine patch to the flash issues | 12:46 |
| Riddell | but maybe that's kdebase | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that gtk-qt-engine package :) | 12:46 |
| Riddell | ah, right | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kdebase and kdelibs patches are already in the repos :) | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I already uploaded gtk-qt btw | 12:46 |
| Riddell | guess I should look at SRU for them | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and I'll investigate at the fonts settings issue | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that would be nice indeed, as a lot of people are installing flash manually.... | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: debian as several patches, but I merged them | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is one patch for kdelibs, one for kdebase and one for gtk-qt | 12:47 |
| Riddell | that's a lot of compiling, good thing i have a dual core machine now | 12:49 |
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| effie_jayx | hello all | 14:07 |
| jjesse | hello effie_jayx | 14:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do we have a package for policykit-kde ? | 14:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: see http://svn.uludag.org.tr/uludag/trunk/PolicyKit-kde/ | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would be nice to give an attempt, so that for once we wouldn't be a cycle late compared to ubuntu, no ? | 14:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: this is for kde3 atm | 14:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: don't think we do, but what does it do? | 14:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: equivalent to policykit-gnome, it's a gui | 14:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok, but what would use them? | 14:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum good point | 14:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: little question on that point, is everything related to policykit liked to the desktop or can you also manage permissions on the system on the command line side ? | 14:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do package it indeed, but it still needs policykit use to be added somewhere (e.g. kde 4 kcontrol) | 14:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's intended for the desktop, in theory I expect it would be used for command line | 14:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum oki, so that's not of any use atm for kde3..... | 14:31 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I expected it to be used at a more low level side... | 14:31 |
| Tonio_ | s/more low/lower :) | 14:31 |
| Riddell | would be interesting to know where pardus are using it | 14:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, indeed | 14:34 |
| iRon | Riddell: http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~bahadir/zangetsu/blog/2008/01/04/10/ (about PolicyKit in Pardus) | 14:46 |
| Riddell | they have their own user manager | 14:48 |
| Riddell | would be nice if they worked with the rest of KDE | 14:49 |
| iRon | yep | 14:49 |
| iRon | PolicyKit is not a magic.. PK is just an authentication mechanism which could be integrated with any part of desktop.. | 14:49 |
| iRon | i've started research on it.. i'll create a wiki page with all my thoughts and progress.. | 14:51 |
| iRon | Riddell: or may be better create Blueprint in LP? | 14:51 |
| Riddell | iRon: since it's a KDE issue and not really Kubuntu specific I'd keep it to wiki.kde.org | 14:52 |
| Riddell | although that's a horrible wiki | 14:52 |
| iRon | :) | 14:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just received the gtk-qt-engine update from the repos, I can confirm konqueror finally displays flash :) | 14:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and talking about pardus, I'll investigate concerning their policykit usage within kde | 14:56 |
| Tonio_ | iRon: ah you already did ;) | 14:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, oki that's just for their home made tools | 14:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: not of any use since everyone is going kde4 this year | 14:58 |
| buz | are the dates in kdepim enterprise releases the date of the svn snapshot they've been built from? | 15:50 |
| Riddell | buz: yes | 15:54 |
| buz | i just reported a bug against 20080127 | 15:54 |
| buz | now i'm trying to figure out if it comes from upstream | 15:54 |
| Riddell | lure might know, when he's around | 15:54 |
| buz | its https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/187086 | 15:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 187086 in kdepim "kmail 4:3.5.7enterprise20080127-0ubuntu1 breaks filtering: only first mail is filtered" [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
| jpatrick | evening toma | 17:34 |
| toma | evening | 17:35 |
| Dekans | hello all | 17:43 |
| jpatrick | hello Dekans | 17:44 |
| Dekans | Riddell: can i ask you some tips in query ? | 17:44 |
| Dekans | does someone knows if kopete will support jingle libraries in kubuntu 8.04 ? | 17:47 |
| Dekans | know* | 17:47 |
| jpatrick | Dekans: no idea, best ask in #kopete I guess | 17:48 |
| Dekans | i'm not sure because kopete can already be compiled with voice support for xmpp | 17:48 |
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| jpatrick | Dekans: well, we don't develop it so, we won't know :) | 17:50 |
| jpatrick | Jucato: yo | 17:50 |
| Jucato | yo | 17:50 |
| Dekans | jpatrick: I mean that tje kubuntu package is compiled without jingle support, because it was not stable enough for gutsy | 17:51 |
| jpatrick | ah | 17:51 |
| Dekans | maybe it's good now.... or not ^^ | 17:51 |
| Riddell | Dekans: havn't looked at it in ages, I seem to remember Hobbsee did too a while ago | 18:05 |
| Dekans | Riddell: I wanted to ask you wich options are required for kernel compilation for a Live CD | 18:06 |
| Riddell | Dekans: I've no idea | 18:07 |
| Dekans | don't you create the kubuntu desktop CD's ? | 18:07 |
| Riddell | I don't package linux | 18:07 |
| Dekans | I thought you managed Kubuntu CD's | 18:08 |
| Riddell | most of what's on a kubuntu CD is managed by other ubuntu teams | 18:09 |
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| Dekans | ok | 18:11 |
| Dekans | can I find help for it on ubuntu-devel ? | 18:11 |
| jpatrick | Dekans: maybe for the kernl: #ubuntu-kernel | 18:19 |
| Dekans | jpatrick: thanks | 18:23 |
| Dekans | tanks Riddell too | 18:23 |
| blizzzek | hi | 18:35 |
| nixternal | The 10 000 Ubuntu machines will run a mixture of Edubuntu and Kubuntu, and will form part of the next phase of the roll-out. | 18:47 |
| nixternal | interesting | 18:47 |
| DasKreech | who? | 18:52 |
| jjesse | what's that from? | 18:53 |
| stdin | I think http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1163450117 | 18:55 |
| yuriy | mornfall: ping | 18:55 |
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| nixternal | I read it on the planet, but there is a link to what stdin posted I believe | 18:58 |
| nixternal | anywho, back to bed for me...time to fill up with more oj, tea, and water | 18:58 |
| jjesse | did you see that Jamie from Mythbusters recommends Ubuntu over Vista? | 18:58 |
| stdin | I'd recommend cheese over Vista... | 19:00 |
| jjesse | mmm cheese | 19:01 |
| nixternal | jjesse: where did you see that? | 19:02 |
| nixternal | Jamie rocks! | 19:02 |
| nixternal | I have been laying in bed watching mythbusters | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we should create a kde4-cdbs package | 19:11 |
| Riddell | the files could just go in our cdbs, renamed | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | hehe, maybe someone should do this then ;-) | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if I change a debian patch, should I rename it to kubuntu_? | 19:16 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: any date for the next meeting? | 19:19 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes, it's gets confusing if our patches don't have kubuntu_ | 19:20 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I seem to remember people wanted one on thursday | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | ok | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, why do we need to set the complete path in the kde4 desktop files? | 19:21 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: so, thrusday it is? | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't that be attached automagically by the KDE 3 patches | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | and kde 4 is having the correct $PATH anyway | 19:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so that gnome can find the apps | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | ah, true :) | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you finish the transition yet? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: which? | 19:23 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: dunno, I might be out on thusday evening | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: path change for kde4 desktop files | 19:24 |
| jpatrick | ah well then :) | 19:24 |
| mornfall | yuriy: pong | 19:32 |
| DasKreech | Do we have two PPAs for KDE4 ? | 19:41 |
| jpatrick | DasKreech: ~kubuntu-members-kde4 should ibe it | 19:42 |
| DasKreech | are we still doing weekly builds? | 19:43 |
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| apachelogger | DasKreech: more like: when someone has time | 19:45 |
| jpatrick | !life | DasKreech | 19:45 |
| ubotu | DasKreech: life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:45 |
| jpatrick | ;) | 19:45 |
| * DasKreech cracks up | 19:48 | |
| DasKreech | !botsnack | 19:48 |
| ubotu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 19:48 |
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| buz | Lure: i reported the kmail issue before | 20:48 |
| buz | i'm wondering if its an upstreeam issue really | 20:48 |
| Lure | buz: we do not patch anything in filtering | 20:50 |
| buz | so i thought | 20:50 |
| buz | are kdepim-enterprise bugs to reported in kde bugzilla? | 20:50 |
| Lure | buz: upstream is looking into it - they have merged lots (100s) of commits from 3.5 branch and it may broke something | 20:50 |
| buz | ok | 20:50 |
| Lure | buz: some, some are in kdab bug tracker | 20:50 |
| buz | i'm using 20080118 for the time being | 20:50 |
| Lure | buz: till in #kontact said that he will look into this tommorow | 20:51 |
| Lure | we all want to get as much bugs aout before 3.5.9 release of merged kdepim | 20:51 |
| buz | well obviously ;) | 20:51 |
| uga | guys, I just noticed that strigi search replaces completely kfind now | 20:52 |
| buz | i'm at work tomorrow, but should be able to check in irc occasionally | 20:52 |
| uga | but... have you noticed it's not translated at all? | 20:52 |
| buz | so if any questions arise, just pm me | 20:52 |
| uga | is it possible to disable that? | 20:52 |
| uga | it's really useless | 20:52 |
| uga | did I get some wrong package, or is this normal now in kubuntu? I'm trying to upgrade a pc that had a nicely working feisty,... for a person that is clueless about computers and ... errm... doesn't know english | 20:54 |
| uga | and now I get this "surprise" | 20:55 |
| buz | what version | 20:55 |
| uga | gutsy, just updated | 20:55 |
| buz | cant remember seeing strigi doing much there | 20:55 |
| buz | truth to be told, strigi generally doesnt seem to be doing much aside crawling the FS once | 20:56 |
| uga | I didn't notice it in my desktop either (I'm on self-built kde4 here), but when I got this box updated.... I'm confused | 20:56 |
| uga | an option in kmenu for strigi desktop search | 20:56 |
| buz | well strigi is installed in gutsy i know that | 20:56 |
| buz | could you simply change the option to kfind? | 20:57 |
| uga | I'd want kfind back for now. This thing is not i18n()ed yet | 20:57 |
| uga | buz: that's my intention :/ | 20:57 |
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| buz | should be possible to edit the path and change it to kfind no? | 20:57 |
| uga | yes, through kmenuedit, gui even | 20:58 |
| uga | I think I'll keep both | 20:59 |
| uga | I may avoid trouble finding it back when upgrading again | 20:59 |
| uga | okay, done | 20:59 |
| uga | anyway, I think kfind should find its place back for now, there, by default | 21:00 |
| buz | to be honest i barely ever use the kmenu so i'm not the one to judge :P | 21:00 |
| buz | alt-f2 is just so much more useful :P | 21:00 |
| smarter | Are we going to package qdevelop? | 21:02 |
| uga | yeah, well, this is a laptop from a person taht doesn't know command line | 21:02 |
| uga | and shortcuts | 21:02 |
| uga | buz: after all kubuntu is all about non-knowledgeable users being able to use linux | 21:02 |
| buz | yeah i know. my gf's father has a kubuntu machine :P | 21:03 |
| smarter | Or more exactly: if I package QDevelop, will it be accepted in Hardy? :} | 21:04 |
| Riddell | don't we have packages of it? | 21:07 |
| jpatrick | they didn't get past REVU I think | 21:07 |
| DasKreech | !info qdevelop hardy | 21:08 |
| ubotu | Package qdevelop does not exist in hardy | 21:08 |
| Riddell | there's an entry in launchpad, so it's been uploaded but presumably rejected https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qdevelop | 21:08 |
| Riddell | I don't see any message in ubuntu-archive | 21:09 |
| Riddell | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-archive/2007-October/011725.html | 21:09 |
| smarter | So, can I try to fix the package? It's still on revu: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qdevelop | 21:10 |
| Riddell | smarter: go ahead | 21:11 |
| smarter | cool :) | 21:11 |
| jpatrick | yay for... left behind binaries? | 21:11 |
| smarter | 'night everyone | 21:11 |
| smarter | BTW, I've packaged the Qt4 Bespin style for people who don't like Oxygen ;) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde4-style-bespin | 21:11 |
| jpatrick | bonne nuit smarter | 21:11 |
| smarter | thanks jpatrick ;) | 21:12 |
| buz | i'd love to see domino for kde4 | 21:13 |
| buz | but the way i used domino was quite close to oxygen anyway | 21:14 |
| buz | btw, how comes sometime i get kde4 colors in kde3 apps and sometimes not? (inside kde4 session) | 21:14 |
| nosrednaekim | buz: like which apps are you getting color in? | 21:15 |
| buz | sometimes kmail is kde4 style, but usually not | 21:15 |
| buz | konversation stays kde3 | 21:15 |
| buz | and i think i saw akregator once in oxygen colors | 21:15 |
| nosrednaekim | odd. my kde3 apps never aquire the kde3 colors | 21:15 |
| nosrednaekim | *kde4 | 21:16 |
| buz | yeah lately i havent seen it either | 21:16 |
| Riddell | ah, nosrednaekim, we still want to get the desktop effects applet packaged up | 21:16 |
| buz | oh there's a apply colors to non kde4 applications checkbox in appearance->colors | 21:16 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: I'm sorry, I don't know any packaging :) | 21:17 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: remind me again where it is? | 21:17 |
| jpatrick | ~kubuntu-users | 21:17 |
| nosrednaekim | ~/kubuntu-users/desktop-effects-kde | 21:17 |
| jpatrick | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/guidance/desktop-effects-kde | 21:18 |
| nosrednaekim | thanks jpatrick | 21:18 |
| Lure | what to do if application does not have icon (new package): what to put in .desktop file? | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | Lure: choose one from stock kde which fits best | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | if you can't find anything use a gear :) | 21:54 |
| Lure | apachelogger: and notify upstream to add .desktop + icon for next release? | 21:54 |
| apachelogger | yup | 21:54 |
| * apachelogger mosty notifies upstream about everything | 21:55 | |
| Lure | apachelogger: stock kde being "hicolor"? | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | I think I would find my self highly annoying :D | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | Lure: crystalsvg | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | only app icons go hicolor | 21:55 |
| Lure | apachelogger: right | 21:56 |
| apachelogger | Lure: what app are we talking about anyway? | 21:56 |
| Lure | apachelogger: qlandekarte | 21:56 |
| Lure | qlandkarte even ;-) | 21:56 |
| apachelogger | the app isn' t that nu, is it? | 21:56 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why none made an icon yet | 21:57 | |
| Lure | it is pretty new and they have some xpm stuff in code for icon | 21:57 |
| Lure | ugly | 21:57 |
| Lure | no wort using that | 21:57 |
| uga | Riddell: if I translate the strigi page is there any chance it can be used? | 21:58 |
| uga | I'm not sure if there's any localisation there .... | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | Lure: hehe... well... you can throw an xpm in /usr/share/pixmaps | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | and use that for now | 22:01 |
| Riddell | uga: I expect so, it should be just i18n'ed strings | 22:02 |
| Lure | apachelogger: not sure I want that.. ;-) | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | hehe, ok :) | 22:03 |
| * apachelogger heads off to bed though | 22:03 | |
| apachelogger | nini | 22:03 |
| Lure | apachelogger: good night | 22:03 |
| jpatrick | gute nacht apachelogger | 22:04 |
| jpatrick | oh, wait, I forgot, no german after 10 | 22:04 |
| mhb | why not? | 22:06 |
| mhb | or, more precisely, warum nicht? | 22:06 |
| Riddell | why yes, it is a warm night | 22:06 |
| jpatrick | mhb: keine Ahnung, something he told me not to do (with him at least) ;) | 22:08 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: looks like they didn't get your no OT messae (?) | 22:48 |
| mhb | Riddell: entschuldigung | 22:52 |
| mhb | wow, I crimped my first RJ-45 using ordinary pliers | 22:54 |
| Riddell | is that like an entwickler? | 22:54 |
| Riddell | congratulations, those thing are always fiddly | 22:54 |
| Lure | is it normal to install binaries with caps in /usr/bin (e.g. /usr/bin/QLandkarte)? | 22:58 |
| Lure | or should we rename them? | 22:58 |
| mhb | Riddell: its more like "please put all guilt away from me" | 22:59 |
| Lure | oh, so we should put debhelper >= 6 now? | 22:59 |
| mhb | Lure: it is definitely not normal. | 23:00 |
| mhb | Lure: I'd say it is "ugly" | 23:00 |
| Lure | mhb: I have no command with caps and I get lintian warnings (as manpage is small letters only) | 23:00 |
| jpatrick | X11 | 23:00 |
| Lure | jpatrick: ;-) | 23:01 |
| Lure | good catch, will fix that also ;-) | 23:01 |
| Riddell | Lure: there's no policy against it, but it's not pretty indeed | 23:01 |
| mhb | jpatrick: VirtualBox does it too (I hate him for that, by the way) | 23:01 |
| jpatrick | Lure: yeah, we probabaly should debhelper 6 now (keep -motu happy) | 23:01 |
| Riddell | should probably readup on what the difference is in 6 first :) | 23:02 |
| Lure | Riddell: if it works, I do not care ;-) | 23:02 |
| Riddell | obviously don't use debhelper 6 for anything you think might be backported | 23:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: it is new package, are such backported? | 23:10 |
| Riddell | if someone wants it in gutsy | 23:10 |
| Riddell | if it's not very popular then probably not | 23:11 |
| Lure | ok, will stay with 5 then | 23:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: it is the best gps utility for Garmin GPS, so I suspect it might be wanted | 23:13 |
| mornfall | yuriy: Ping? You wanted something/ | 23:14 |
| yuriy | mornfall: about the weird searching i mentioned | 23:26 |
| yuriy | an example: search for ksm | 23:26 |
| yuriy | should come up with ksmserver, among other things | 23:26 |
| yuriy | it flickers something, then blank | 23:26 |
| Lure | jpatrick: how quickly does revu pick up uploads? | 23:28 |
| stdin | it does it every 10 mins from my experience | 23:29 |
| Lure | stdin: thanks | 23:30 |
| * Lure want to get to bed, but not before I see it on revu | 23:30 | |
| Lure | ok, here it is | 23:31 |
| Lure | any motu have time to revu the qlandkarte package for me: bug 103324 has all details | 23:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 103324 in ubuntu "[need-packaging] QLandkarte" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103324 | 23:32 |
| * Lure -> bed, good night all | 23:32 | |
| mornfall | yuriy: Well, that's basically not weird, since "ksm" is not a word per se. | 23:34 |
| mornfall | yuriy: You could do partial matches on everything, but that'll lead to weirdness as well. | 23:42 |
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