[00:00] <andreas> hey is there a way to get my microphone to work in my laptop?
[00:01] <olskolirc> nope
[00:01] <olskolirc> all of my kdm themes won't install
[00:01] <olskolirc> won't even load into the kdm theme manager
[00:02] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  im not in kde so i cant check. :) doing some windows work.  Its possible the themes are older versions.
[00:03] <biovore> I always have to put the kdm themes in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes  (where the other themes are) and symlink it for it to work.. :-/
[00:03] <olskolirc> ohhh ok
[00:04] <Dr_willis> I just tend to pick one of the themes in the package manager and leave it alone.
[00:24] <flipstar> gn8
[00:29] <Dogface> have a problem the last few days.  Was trying to d/l some software with Adept... and told it to take from (some site)... which didn't work.  Eventually shut down for night and restarted today.  Adept will not start up.  Error message:...
[00:29] <Dogface> "The APT Database could not be opened!"
[00:29] <fivetwentysix> dogface
[00:29] <sub[t]rnl> !aptfix
[00:29] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> nm
[00:30] <Dogface> says to try running 'apt-setup' and 'apt-get update'
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> he beat to it
[00:30] <fivetwentysix> Do it
[00:30] <Dogface> ok
[00:35] <dangspot> Hi, I just installed kubuntu, and it was all pretty smooth sailing... except that I accidentally trashed my windows partition. Well, good riddance, eh?
[00:36] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: what does that line do?
[00:36] <sub[t]rnl> which?
[00:36] <Dogface> "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[00:37] <sub[t]rnl> basically "removes" the dpkg's lock file and reconfigures it
[00:37] <Dogface> I did a paste to the konsole... it didn't seem to change anything.  Tried starting up apt.  Still didn't work
[00:37] <dangspot> Anyhoo. I think there might be a problem with my graphic drivers or something, because my screen is "flickering" when I move windows around or scroll. Does anyone know what this might be?
[00:38] <Dogface> BTW, this is on an old iMac
[00:40] <Dogface> what is dpkg's lock file?... and could it just be put that file in trash so it has to create another?
[00:42] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ yup
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> lock file is created when a process is using apt or one of its front ends
[00:43] <Dogface> ok. tried it a couple times and it refuses to do anything new.  same old error message.
[00:44] <NickPresta> !aptfix | Dogface try this
[00:44] <ubotu> Dogface try this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:44] <Dogface> that is what I did
[00:45] <NickPresta> Dogface, and what is the exact error message you're getting?
[00:46] <Dogface> header says... 'Could not open cache - Adept Manager'
[00:46] <Dogface> then
[00:46] <Dogface> "The apt database could not be opened!  This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem."
[00:47] <Dogface> it says to try running apt-setup and apt-get update ...but those don't change anything either
[00:47] <NickPresta> Dogface, in a Konsole, type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[00:48] <Dogface> ok, now it posts a message in Konsole...
[00:48] <Dogface> giving a big link... but the link is the 'mistake' link I tried to use last time to get some software.
[00:49] <NickPresta> Dogface, paste the output to a pastebin.
[00:49] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[00:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:49] <don_> Hey there.  Anybody know if there's a channel for Ubuntu Ultimate?
[00:49] <Dogface> ok... bb in a minute
[00:50] <sub[t]rnl> don_➜ whats ultimate anyway? just ubuntu with some of the software pre installed right?
[00:50] <don_> Yeah, it's a repack.
[00:50] <quilty> I set up a software raid on my machine and everything is working fine but a little problem when mounting the partition(s) - i can't write on the mounted partitions as normal user - any ideas?
[00:50] <quilty> this is my fstab entry: /dev/md1 /media/md1 ext3 users,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[00:50] <don_> But I'm not sure which packages come from which branch and all that, so I was hopin' there was a channel for that distro specifically.
[00:52] <don_> The website for it is practically non-existant.
[00:53] <NickPresta> don_, http://ubuntusoftware.info/ That might help, but I can't read the content. The design makes my eyes bleed.
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> quilty➜ looks like you have a bit of redundancy in that fstab file
[00:53] <don_> Ah thank you.  New website?  Cuz I went to the one Google spit out at me, but all the links from the home page were dead.
[00:55] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53926/
[00:55] <quilty> sub[t]rnl: the partition is mounted at startup, I can mount/umount it as normal user but I can only write to it as root (sudo)
[00:55] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove that bad link
[00:55] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: do you know how to empty the trash from the command line?
[00:55] <xevious-> or dcop?
[00:56] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: and yo, what's up? too
[00:56] <Dogface> Have never done that.  Will have to go figure out where it even is
[00:56] <sub[t]rnl> xevious-➜ hrm, hey man not much.  No not sure, I use dcop for my konversation scripts.  yeah the trash is in your home direcotry though
[00:56] <sub[t]rnl>  .local/share/Trash/
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ in konsole, type kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ then remove the link
[00:57] <Dogface> ok, will do
[00:57] <xevious-> cool
[00:57] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ after that, save and exit, followed with -> sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:57] <xevious-> thanks sub
[00:58] <xevious-> gotta peace . later
[00:58] <sub[t]rnl> k, lates
[00:58] <wimpies> does the kubuntu gutsy support smp and will it detect a quad core CPU ?
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> have to use a certain kernel
[00:59] <wimpies> which ?
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> not sure, would have to look
[00:59] <sub[t]rnl> the generic kernel supports smp
[01:00] <wimpies> for 4 CPU ?
[01:00] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: kdesudo: command not found
[01:00] <biovore> yes.. will detect up to 9 out of the box
[01:00] <biovore> (8)
[01:00] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: did it as a paste... so it should have gone through fine
[01:00] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:01] <wimpies> ok so I should be OK then ... thx
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ i take it your not using Gutsy?
[01:01] <sub[t]rnl> try kdesu
[01:01] <Dogface> using dapper
[01:01]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[01:01] <Dogface> ok
[01:03] <Dogface> awww man, have all kinds of output in Konsole now.  "Failed to open device" ...several times... then asked for password...
[01:04] <Dogface> then opened Kate and scrolled a lot of stuff...
[01:04] <sub[t]rnl> edit your sources.list file that kate opened
[01:04] <Dogface> 'kbuild sycoca running . . .'
[01:05] <sub[t]rnl> the failed to open device stuff just means you need to clean up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:09] <sub[t]rnl> quilty➜ did you get it worked out?
[01:09] <Dogface> I have a second bad link...
[01:09] <Dogface> going back to get rid of it too
[01:10] <Dogface> am gonna go out on a limb here and guess that a help file shouldn't be on top of that list!  *Grin
[01:11] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:12] <Dogface> now this can't be right...
[01:12] <Dogface> its still saying ....
[01:12] <Dogface> 'http:// packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> what on earth did you do to that file :>
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> pastebin the sources.list for us
[01:13] <Dogface> ok
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> (there probably shouldn't be a space in between the http:// and "packages")
[01:13] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[01:14] <Dogface> I hand typed that part so that is my typo
[01:15] <Dr_willis> thats not a proper complete  package line either.
[01:17] <mixed> anyone ever used virtualbox on kubuntu?  I am getting this error: The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist.
[01:19] <Dogface> Ok, try this one this time....  <http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53927/>
[01:19] <Dogface> that's the whole dang file!
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> take out those first two entries
[01:19] <Dogface> well.... ok!
[01:20] <sub[t]rnl> uncomment (remove the #'s) on the universe lines if you want them enabled
[01:21] <sub[t]rnl> then sudo apt-get update && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:21] <Dogface> where are you talking about to uncomment?
[01:22] <Dogface> Lines 19 & 20?
[01:22] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, (if you want too)
[01:22] <Dogface> is there some reason NOT to?
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> personal reasons
[01:23] <sub[t]rnl> free software, GPL, et cetra
[01:23] <Dogface> Unless they're like... porn links or something I see no reason to be concerned
[01:24] <draik> How do I mount an ISO?
[01:24] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:24] <draik> In xSane, how do I scan a specific section? Is there a preview scan or possibly a crop tool from the main scan?
[01:25] <Dogface> working ... connecting... all kinds of action now finally!
[01:26] <Dogface> maybe I should be saving this info to a file
[01:26] <sub[t]rnl> good deal
[01:26] <sub[t]rnl> draik➜ (example) mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/
[01:26] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Thanks.
[01:28] <Dogface> Konsole says its done reading packages...
[01:28] <Dogface> Adept still seems to be unwilling to start yet
[01:28] <mixed> anyone knows what this will do:  sudo m-a prepare
[01:28] <Dogface> oops... spoke too soon  - just fired up finally!!!
[01:29] <sub[t]rnl> mixed➜ run the "m-a" command as super user with the "prepare" option?
[01:29] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Says that it's the wrong type. What is the type for a DVD?
[01:29] <mixed> sub[t]rn,  what is "m-a"?  I cant install it.  it's supposed to be a module assistant
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: perhaps udf?
[01:32] <dorkface> Hi all.  I was looking around an opensuse box, and to my surprise, it seemed I looked at an opensuse box, and it seemed to be that there were more default screensavers in the same vein of the screensavers on my kubuntu box.  Is there a centeralized place to donwnload these screensavers?
[01:34] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: It looks like its up to me to do all the installs now.  Thanks for a LOT of good info & assistance.  Are you around for a bit?
[01:35] <sub[t]rnl> yup, should be
[01:35] <typoe> dorkface just try looking up screensavers in adept manager
[01:37] <unagi> why doesnt kubuntu put drives on the desktop, and dvds
[01:37] <typoe> mine puts dvds up when I put one in
[01:37] <unagi> interesting
[01:37] <unagi> im wanting to like kde but its fighting me :D
[01:38] <adz21c> unagi: you can disable that, i can't remember how but u can
[01:38] <mixed> how do I find out which version of ubuntu im running?
[01:38] <sub[t]rnl> lsb_release -a
[01:39] <mixed> sub[t]rn, thank you
[01:39] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ hrm, right by default it should place icons for mounted dvd's, samba shares, et cetra.
[01:40] <unagi> well then my kubuntu is retarded =)
[01:40] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[01:40] <typoe> it might be a hardware problem unai
[01:41] <typoe> if the drive doesnt actually inform the system when a new disk is loaded ..?
[01:42] <some_dude> oh yes, I've got my kde sudosexy
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> unagi- right-click the desktop, go to Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device Icons
[01:43] <unagi> awesome
[01:43] <DooderZ> Hello all
[01:43] <unagi> any ideas how i can get my fn keys working in kubuntu?
[01:44] <DooderZ> Does anyone here know anything about Kubuntu on PPC
[01:44] <sub[t]rnl> unagi➜ kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts maybe?
[01:45] <typoe> should work the same on ppc as it does on 586
[01:45] <some_dude> it should be about the same as Kubunut on i86
[01:45] <DooderZ> right
[01:45] <DooderZ> but im having an issue during the boot
[01:45] <some_dude> hehe, grub
[01:45] <DooderZ> yaboot
[01:46] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: It looks like everything I wanted to do is just finishing.  Thanks for the help.  Can you tell me what the command lines meant?  (the stuff typed into console) ... when you're not busy (even to a pastebin if you don't want to detail it here)
[01:46] <unagi> specifically im talking about the screens brightness
[01:46] <DooderZ> it loads all the stuff and says [OK] after them and then brings up the kubuntu loading screen but not the desktop enviroment
[01:46] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ sure thing
[01:46] <ahmos> Hi everybody, I have made a partition /usr how I can change it or i can simoly delet the files stored on it?!!
[01:47] <typoe> ahmos use partition editor to delete partitions
[01:48] <DooderZ> Kubuntu on ppc loading screen loads all drivers / random linux stuff, then hangs at kubuntu loading screen, does not boot gui. Anyone know my issue?
[01:48] <typoe> or use "sudo rm-rf /usr" to delete the files but are you sure you want to?
[01:48] <ahmos> first can I ask u what is the use of a partition /usr
[01:48] <Max-P> !fixadept
[01:48] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:49] <typoe> ahmos a prtition editor creates and deletes paritions from a hard drive. It may also assign partition types
[01:49] <ahmos> ok
[01:49] <ahmos> thank u very much
[01:50] <typoe> that was odd
[01:50] <DooderZ> ubotu it says dependency problems prevent configuration of limewire basic
[01:50] <DooderZ> i didnt install limewire
[01:50] <DooderZ> ...
[01:50] <DooderZ> that i know of
[01:51] <typoe> it is probably correct
[01:51] <DooderZ> and continues to say it needs java because its dependent
[01:51] <DooderZ> thats preventing my gui from loading?
[01:51] <typoe> limewire is your gui?
[01:51] <DooderZ> hell no
[01:52] <DooderZ> i mean the desktop enviroment
[01:52] <DooderZ> it isnt loading
[01:52] <DooderZ> im in a terminal
[01:52] <DooderZ> using it
[01:52] <DooderZ> my X or whatever it is
[01:52] <DooderZ> wont load
[01:52] <DooderZ> ive rebooted multiple times
[01:52] <DooderZ> im sitll learning linux, im sick of windows
[01:53] <DooderZ> ive searched all over the net on how to fix it
[01:53] <sub[t]rnl> typoe➜ i really hope he doesn't rm -rf his /usr.. heh
[01:53] <biovore> probably boggered something up in /etc/X11/xorg.confr
[01:53] <typoe> well do you know if it is the X window server/driver or the desktop which loads later?
[01:53] <DooderZ> x loads later
[01:53] <DooderZ> i think
[01:53] <DooderZ> i remember seeing loading x b4 the desktop loads
[01:53] <DooderZ> actually
[01:54] <typoe> X loads first your desktop loads later, which is it wont load for you tho?
[01:54] <DooderZ> umm my desktop
[01:54] <typoe> so it does enter graphics mode and the mouse cursor comes up?
[01:54] <DooderZ> no
[01:54] <DooderZ> it doesnt
[01:55] <Dogface> sub[t]rnl: Thanks.  Saw the info nicely!  :)
[01:55] <typoe> that sound like the X screen driver isnt loading them
[01:55] <DooderZ> it leaves the loading splash screen for kubuntu , the one that loads all your stuff when you boot
[01:55] <sub[t]rnl> Dogface➜ good deal
[01:55] <DooderZ> and i have to go into ctrl+f1 to enter commands
[01:55] <DooderZ> or whatever
[01:56] <DooderZ> any idea on a fix?
[01:57] <DooderZ> i even tried running the live cd i used to install it, and that does the same thing
[01:57] <DooderZ> and i promise you it worked previously
[01:57] <typoe> dooderz sounds like the video adapter isnt autoconfiguring correctly
[01:58] <penguincentral> hi.  i'm running kubuntu in VMWare Fusion, but i can't connect to the internet.  Networking is enabled on VMWare though.  Any help would be appreciated
[01:58] <DooderZ> ok, i stil have no idea what to do
[01:58] <max-p> Hi, I have a problem with Firefox (Pango Font error)
[01:58] <DooderZ> oh wow, you guys get bombed all day with questions
[01:58] <NickPresta> DooderZ, all day, everyday.
[01:59] <DooderZ> Well i appreciate any and all hgelp
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ wired or wireless?
[01:59] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: at the moment wired
[01:59] <NickPresta> DooderZ, I missed your problem. Could you explain it again in a sentence or two or pastebin the whole thing? See !pastebin
[01:59] <Dr_willis> We get carpet bombed a lot with questions.. :)
[01:59] <typoe> penguincentral can you network between the local real machine and the virtual machine to share files or anything?
[01:59] <penguincentral> i dunno
[01:59] <DooderZ> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:59] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ check ifconfig in konsole to see if your getting assigned an ip?
[01:59] <DooderZ>  Kubuntu on ppc loading screen loads all drivers / random linux stuff, then hangs at kubuntu loading screen, does not boot gui. Anyone know my issue?
[02:00] <DooderZ> it wont load my desktop
[02:00] <NickPresta> DooderZ, have you narrowed this down to an X issue or a startup issue?
[02:00] <DooderZ> im confused
[02:00] <DooderZ> and have no real idea
[02:00] <thomas_newbie__> what command can I issue to see what daemons/services i have running?
[02:00] <DooderZ> is there a way to determine that
[02:00] <DooderZ> ?
[02:00] <NickPresta> DooderZ, first, make sure your session is a fresh, default session. If it hangs again on loading the GUI, we can try reconfiguring X
[02:01] <DooderZ> im not completely cpu retarded i just am a little intimidated by the command structure of linux
[02:01] <typoe> thomas try "ps -ax"
[02:01] <DooderZ> ok nick, should i reboot?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> The shell is easy. :) you just gotta spend some time reading a few tutorials/guides to get the fundamentals down.
[02:01] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. Can you get to a login screen where you can select your session type?
[02:01] <DooderZ> yes
[02:01] <DooderZ> im in one
[02:01] <DooderZ> lol
[02:02] <sub[t]rnl> ..huh
[02:02] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. First, select a default session (not your previous KDE session). See if you can load your desktop...
[02:02] <DooderZ> the kde isnt loading
[02:02] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: read http://pastebin.ca/876793
[02:03] <DooderZ> Nick > im at a black screen with root@mycpuname
[02:03] <NickPresta> DooderZ, okay. Enter this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:03] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ yeah, we're not getting a network device, just loopback.
[02:03] <NickPresta> DooderZ, let it autodetect your hardware, select a driver, like vesa, which should always work.
[02:03] <DooderZ> its ticking lol
[02:04] <DooderZ> ok auto detect yes
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ try sudo ifconfig eth0 up (or whatever the interface is)
[02:04] <DooderZ> select the desired x server driver
[02:04] <DooderZ> im on a g3 ibook
[02:04] <DooderZ> ppc
[02:04] <NickPresta> DooderZ, do you see vesa?
[02:04] <DooderZ> no
[02:05] <NickPresta> DooderZ, what is the default selected driver?
[02:05] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: i ran that command
[02:05] <penguincentral> what now?
[02:05] <DooderZ> ati chips fbdev glint imstt mga nv s3 s3virge savage sis sisusb tdfx trident vga
[02:05] <sub[t]rnl> check ifconfig again
[02:05] <DooderZ> thats whats wvailable
[02:05] <NickPresta> DooderZ, use vga for now.
[02:05] <DooderZ> ok
[02:06] <NickPresta> hey Jucato
[02:06] <DooderZ> i have an ati rage mobility m3 agp 2x
[02:06] <Jucato> yo
[02:06] <DooderZ> apparantly
[02:06] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ any change in ifconfig?
[02:06] <sub[t]rnl> heyas j
[02:06] <DooderZ> use kernel frame buffer device interface
[02:06] <DooderZ> ?
[02:06] <DooderZ> yes or no
[02:07] <NickPresta> DooderZ, no.
[02:07] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: http://pastebin.ca/876795
[02:07] <yuriman> is there any way to enable a new fstab without rebooting?
[02:07] <NickPresta> yuriman, `sudo mount -a`
[02:07] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ now try restarting your networking, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:08] <DooderZ> write default files section to configuration file?
[02:08] <NickPresta> DooderZ, yes.
[02:08] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: done tha
[02:08] <penguincentral> that
[02:08] <yuriman> I can't get my UDF disk to mount. Nothing I found on the forums helped.
[02:08] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ see if ifconfig has an IP assigned to eth0 now
[02:08] <DooderZ> ok
[02:08] <DooderZ> now whats
[02:09] <Dr_willis> Hmm isent there a udf filesystem type one uses? What kind of udf disk anyway? dvd?
[02:09] <DooderZ> all done im back at my console
[02:09] <NickPresta> DooderZ, login to your console with your username/password. Type: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:09] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: nope
[02:09] <DooderZ> okies
[02:09] <DooderZ> then reboot im assuming lol
[02:09] <NickPresta> DooderZ, yeah
[02:09] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_willis➜ yeah should be a valid -t option in mount right
[02:10] <DooderZ> Thanks for you help so far NickPresta
[02:10] <sub[t]rnl> penguincentral➜ hrm, not sure then :/
[02:10] <Dr_willis> My fstab for my dvd disk --> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0
[02:10] <DooderZ> rebooting
[02:10]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[02:10] <DooderZ> bare with me, it is an old mac
[02:10] <DooderZ> lol
[02:10] <penguincentral> maybe a VM reboot is in order
[02:11] <DooderZ> cross your fingers
[02:11] <DooderZ> ok
[02:11] <DooderZ> it loaded all that stuff
[02:11] <max-p> Can someone help me with Pango and Firefox? (font problem I think)
[02:12] <DooderZ> went to go to the kubuntu desktop but hangs at the black screen with blue kubuntu and an empty load bar
[02:12] <sub[t]rnl> yuriman➜ do you have something similar to what Dr_willis' fstab post?
[02:12] <DooderZ> same thing
[02:12] <NickPresta> DooderZ, give it a minute. It might seem like it's hanging but it might take a while.
[02:12] <NickPresta> DooderZ, how long do you usually give it?
[02:12] <DooderZ> i gave it 2 hours today
[02:12] <DooderZ> normally it boots everything within 5 mins
[02:13] <DooderZ> but its never hung here where it is
[02:13] <DooderZ> the hd isnt doing anything
[02:13] <SexyFabiola1> We have a new adult forum including por-no and adult materials called Exotics Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com ... Would you like to join and share adult materials ??? Thank you !
[02:13] <SexyFabiola1> look at what you miss : http://imgxxx.com/users/ItSp/8qmyexu2aomff5yna1rj.jpg
[02:13] <DooderZ> yeah its just chilin
[02:13] <penguincentral> sub[t]rnl: it worked after the reboot :)
[02:14] <NickPresta> DooderZ, ah okay. Well, you can reboot and when you get to the screen where you select your operating system(s), press E (I believe) to edit the current boot options. Remove the word 'splash' from the line, if you can.
[02:14] <DooderZ> ok
[02:14] <penguincentral> SexyFabiola1: wtf? you haven't heard of the Ubuntu CoC?
[02:14] <DooderZ> 1 sec
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> Last call
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> look at what you miss : http://imgxxx.com/users/ItSp/8qmyexu2aomff5yna1rj.jpg
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> We have a new adult forum including por-no and adult materials called Exotics Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com ... Would you like to join and share adult materials ??? Thank you !
[02:15] <yuriman> sub[t]rnl: which post?
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> ok
[02:15] <DooderZ> the screen that lets me "select my os" says l for gnu/linux or c to boot from cd rom
[02:15] <SexyFabiola1> bye
[02:15] <penguincentral> guys, who the hell is SexyFabiola1 anyways?
[02:15] <NickPresta> penguincentral, a spammer. He will be klined soon, I imagine
[02:16] <DooderZ> i cant push anyhing but L or C
[02:16] <DooderZ> so E is out of the question
[02:16] <DooderZ> this mac has nothing but Kubuntu on it
[02:16] <DooderZ> no mac os installed
[02:16] <NickPresta> DooderZ, and this is on the Grub loading screen?
[02:16] <penguincentral> NickPresta: klined?
[02:16] <DooderZ> Grub?
[02:16] <DooderZ> there is no grub bro
[02:16] <Dr_willis> PPC disetn use grub
[02:16] <DooderZ> its yaboot
[02:16] <Seth> penguincentral: k-lined = forcibly banned from all freenode
[02:16] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, ah okay. I'm unexperienced with Kubuntu on PPC.
[02:17] <penguincentral> Seth: good!
[02:17] <Dr_willis> Ive given up on PPC linux. :) too many hassles
[02:17] <DooderZ> =(
[02:17] <Dr_willis> I just have an old iMac DV.
[02:17] <DooderZ> the first screen i get is "First stage ubuntu bootstrap"
[02:17] <NickPresta> DooderZ, sorry then. I suppose I'm all out of ideas. I would imagine the next logical step would be to remove the splash screen (the Kubuntu loading bar screen) so you could see any errors that may have occurred.
[02:17] <yuriman> Dr_willis: have you seen the UDF mounting problem such as this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616674
[02:17] <DooderZ> then "Second stage ubuntu bootstrap"
[02:18] <Dr_willis> yuriman,  im not sure i have anything that even is udf. :) so ive never seen any udf problems
[02:18] <DooderZ> anymore ideas?
[02:18] <DooderZ> id like to reformat
[02:18] <DooderZ> and reinstall it
[02:18] <DooderZ> if possible
[02:19] <DooderZ> i figure that would fix it
[02:19] <NickPresta> DooderZ, if you have some spare time, that might not be a bad idea. I would assume it would clear up any problems.
[02:19] <DooderZ> question is how
[02:19] <DooderZ> my live cd has the same issue
[02:19] <DooderZ> sasme problem
[02:19] <DooderZ> *same
[02:19] <DooderZ> i installed from the desktop
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[02:20]  * NickPresta sighs
[02:20] <NickPresta> Tonight must be spam night
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[02:21] <NickPresta> thanks, sub[t]rnl
[02:21] <DooderZ> can i format from the root@mycpuname screen?
[02:21] <DooderZ> with like fdisk or somehting?
[02:24] <ahmos> from where I can download a driver for my nvidia 7300 LE graphic card
[02:24] <max-p> Where is the font directory located?
[02:24] <NickPresta> !nvidia | ahmos
[02:24] <ubotu> ahmos: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Dr_willis> max-p,  the users can have their own .fonts directory.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> max-p,  you can also enter 'fonts://' in the file manager
[02:25] <DooderZ> so
[02:25] <NickPresta> DooderZ, you can, using fdisk, but if you prefer, there is a GUI utility on the LiveCD. I would try to burn another LiveCD and see if you can get it to run.
[02:25] <DooderZ> um reinstalling from my root screen
[02:25] <ahmos> Thanks for help :)
[02:25] <DooderZ> i did that nick
[02:25] <DooderZ> it still wont boot
[02:25] <max-p> Dr_willis: I know that, but I need to change de permissions of some fonts (which cause an other big problem)
[02:26] <DooderZ> it hangs at the same spot
[02:26] <mixed> anyone here ever used terminatorX?
[02:26] <DooderZ> as the hdd boot
[02:26] <NickPresta> mixed, I like rosegarden for audio synthesis. I've never tried terminatorx.
[02:27] <DooderZ> how do i format my whole hd with fdisk?
[02:27] <DooderZ> oh wait a tick
[02:27] <Dr_willis> You fdisk a disk with fdisk
[02:27] <Dr_willis> you format with mkfs :)
[02:28] <DooderZ> oh
[02:28] <DooderZ> lol
[02:28] <Dr_willis> delete all partitions. make a new one of the type you want, use mkfs.whatever /dev/whatever
[02:28] <DooderZ> how would i go about doing that with linux running?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> You are formating the disk you booted from?
[02:28] <DooderZ> lol
[02:28] <DooderZ> should i run the live cd and do it from the konsole or whatever cause the desktop enviroment wont boot
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Its best to do disk partitionig with the live cd
[02:29] <DooderZ> ok
[02:29] <Dr_willis> The installeer can format the partitions and fdisk them as needed automaticlaly also.
[02:29] <DooderZ> is there a way to like reset your distro to default without rebooting? like a kubuntu reovery menu?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> I normally just fdisk and delete the partitions leaving the whole HD unallocated.. and let the installer do the work
[02:30] <Dr_willis> 'reset the disrto to default' :) dosent really work. Heh
[02:30] <DooderZ> i mean like recover how it ran b4 it messed up
[02:30] <Dr_willis> reset what exactly?  you want all your config changes gone? all users home dirs?
[02:30] <DooderZ> like restore default setting
[02:30] <Dr_willis> Thers no 'snapshot' feature in linux.
[02:30] <DooderZ> yes
[02:30] <DooderZ> theres a snapshot folder on the live cd
[02:30] <DooderZ> lol
[02:30] <Dr_willis> the package manager has a purge option, you could use.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> For Pictures perhaps?
[02:31] <DooderZ> might that work?
[02:31] <Roy_M> What program do people currently use to do NAT with the 2.6 kernel. I always hear that ip chains was used with the 2.2 kernel and iptables was used with the 2.4 kernel, what should I use with the 2.6 kernel?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> iptables is 2.4+  I belive
[02:31] <NickPresta> Roy, I still use iptables.
[02:32] <DooderZ> if i set up my webcam would one of you watch my boot?
[02:32] <Roy_M> Dr_willis and NickPresta, ok great, thanks. My only other question is how ipmasquerading fits into the equation. Do i need to use that in addition to some IPtables commands?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> ipmaq is set up using iptables commands
[02:33] <smith> woot latest kde update to hardy fixes flash in konqeror for me
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Theres a Ipmasquerading/Nat Howto.  - ive not used it in years.
[02:33] <Roy_M> Dr_willis, Thanks champ. I'll have a read
[02:33] <DooderZ> dr_willis> would you watch my boot if i gave you a link to a live stream?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> DooderZ,  and do what exactly? :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> that almost sounds dirty... :P
[02:34] <DooderZ> then you would see exactley what is going on
[02:34] <DooderZ> hahaha
[02:34] <DooderZ> sorry
[02:34] <DooderZ> and maybe have a better idea
[02:34] <DooderZ> i feel like im not explaining my problem properly
[02:34] <Dr_willis> i cant even rember what the exact problem was. :P
[02:35] <DooderZ> i think it has a very simple answer
[02:35] <DooderZ> so would you please?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> You still trying to whipe the disk or what exactly?
[02:35] <DooderZ> nono
[02:35] <DooderZ> i just want you to see my boot
[02:35] <DooderZ> and what it does when it goes to load the desktop enviro
[02:35] <smith> sounds a bit kinky Dr_willis
[02:36] <DooderZ> omg
[02:36] <Dr_willis> if you insist.. i doubt if  i can see much. :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> i gotta go to work in 1/2 an hr also.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> "Hot Booting Web Cam! on #kubuntu" :)
[02:36] <DooderZ> well i could screen cap it with monitor output stuff but that would take longer
[02:36] <DooderZ> lol
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Check out that Bios.
[02:36] <DooderZ> HAHAHA
[02:36] <DooderZ> OMG YOUR GRUB IS SO HOT
[02:37] <DooderZ> lol
[02:37] <Jucato> ahem...
[02:37] <Dr_willis> So the thing boots to the desktop then fails to do somthing?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> or is even that failing
[02:38] <DooderZ> no
[02:38] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, from what I understood, it hangs during boot up (at the Kubuntu loading bar screen)
[02:38] <DooderZ> no desktop
[02:38] <DooderZ> yeah
[02:38] <DooderZ> well
[02:38] <DooderZ> the loading bar screen
[02:38] <DooderZ> happens
[02:38] <DooderZ> finishes
[02:38] <DooderZ> dissapears
[02:38] <DooderZ> brings up a fresh one
[02:38] <DooderZ> and does nothing
[02:38] <DooderZ> thats my issue
[02:39] <Dr_willis> So the Desktop is failing to even start. - You may want to try the Alterntive Installer cd. If thre is such a thing for PPC.
[02:39] <DooderZ> i have no idea
[02:39] <DooderZ> i hate installing by hand
[02:39] <Dr_willis> check the ppc ubuntu pages I guess..
[02:39] <DooderZ> i always f' it up
[02:39] <Dr_willis> thers nothign to install by hand with the alt installer. it just dosent use the livecd/desktop installer
[02:39] <Dr_willis> it uses a text basee ond.
[02:39] <DooderZ> yeah
[02:40] <Agent_bob> ctrl+alt+f1    login and issue   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;startx
[02:40] <DooderZ> and that involves me installing a bunch of packages by hand normally
[02:40] <DooderZ> ok bob
[02:40] <DooderZ> ill do it on cam
[02:40] <DooderZ> lol
[02:40] <Dr_willis> No idea what you would install by hand.. the alt-installer cd - installs an identical system to the livd-cd installer.
[02:40] <DooderZ> 1 sec
[02:40] <niall_> hi
[02:41] <niall_> I managed to install flash
[02:41] <NickPresta> hi, niall_
[02:41] <niall_> but it only works in firefox, and not konquerer :(
[02:41] <niall_> on youtube I hear sound but get no video
[02:41] <Agent_bob> DooderZ if that doesn't give you a gui then look for "EE" in the text output
[02:41] <Dr_willis> niall_,  yep. Thats whats holdingup the flash fix.
[02:41] <niall_> ah :(
[02:41] <Dr_willis> konwueror and flash are not playing nicely.
[02:41] <DooderZ> bob ok gimme a sec
[02:41] <thomas_newbie__> what command can I issue to see what daemons such as ssh or apache i have running?
[02:42] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ ps pstree top ksysguard and many others
[02:42] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: ctrl+esc?
[02:42] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, `ps -u daemon`, `ps aux`
[02:43]  * Agent_bob likes pstree
[02:43] <Bayko_> hey guys
[02:43] <DooderZ> ok cams up
[02:43] <DooderZ> 	http://www.stickam.com/profile/profligate
[02:43] <james__> Hello All
[02:43] <Bayko_> how is everyone?
[02:43] <don_> great
[02:44] <Bayko_> this is first time on linux IRC
[02:44] <NickPresta> Bayko_, welcome :)
[02:44] <Bayko_> anyone recommend ne good linux games?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !info rocksanddiamonds
[02:44] <ubotu> Package rocksanddiamonds does not exist in gutsy
[02:44] <don_> what games you like
[02:44] <DooderZ> dr willis
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !info rocksndiamonds
[02:44] <ubotu> rocksndiamonds (source: rocksndiamonds): Arcade style game. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 3.2.3-3 (gutsy), package size 384 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[02:44] <Jucato> !games
[02:44] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Thats a must get game. :P
[02:44] <Bayko_> on my windows computer i play CS, WOW,
[02:45] <NickPresta> Bayko_, you can play those on Kubuntu
[02:45] <Dr_willis> IRC is the ultimate game. :P
[02:45] <Bayko_> can u guys private msg me?
[02:45] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: ps -u daemon doesn't give me anything, and I have apache running
[02:46] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, that means that apache isn't running as the 'daemon' user
[02:46] <DooderZ> dr_willis> i sent u the link
[02:46] <james__> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 and I'm looking for a web site that can walk me through setting it up now that i have it on my hard drive
[02:46] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ try pstree
[02:46] <Dr_willis> DooderZ,  i see 'no image' :)
[02:47] <DooderZ> ?
[02:47] <DooderZ> its running
[02:47] <Bayko_> how do i register so i can PM?
[02:47] <DooderZ> it doesnt even say i have a viewer
[02:47] <Dr_willis> age 24 Male. .. Hobbies are are Cat Waxing, and  Needlepoint.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:47] <NickPresta> !register | Bayko_
[02:47] <ubotu> Bayko_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:47] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: yea I like that thanks
[02:47] <Bayko_> thank you ubotu
[02:48] <DooderZ> 1 sec willis
[02:48] <DooderZ> i used a bad setting
[02:48] <Bayko_> do i put the register command right in this channel?
[02:48] <Agent_bob> no
[02:49] <Agent_bob> Bayko_ use the server window  then if you mess up we dont see it
[02:52] <vicky_> You know when you go to the "get new wallpapers" button when you want to change the desktop wallpaper? Is there any way to put a folder or another website on there?
[02:52] <DooderZ> dr willis can u pm me so i dont have to post th enew link
[02:52] <DooderZ> its my personal acct
[02:53] <FunnyLookinHat> Will the next Kubuntu Alpha have a KDE4 Branch to test?
[02:53] <DooderZ> ohhh unrekistered
[02:53] <DooderZ> = no pm
[02:53] <DooderZ> lol
[02:53] <DooderZ> http://www.stickam.com/profile/profligateson
[02:53] <DooderZ> cams up
[02:53] <DooderZ> let me know when you can see it
[02:53] <DooderZ> feel free to enter the caht
[02:53] <DooderZ> so we can talk in there
[02:54] <DooderZ> dr_willis?
[02:55] <DooderZ> Nick?
[02:56] <DooderZ> Willis?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> lets see
[02:56] <DooderZ> Jesus?
[02:56] <DooderZ> can u see my cam?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Yes its working..
[02:56] <DooderZ> ok
[02:56] <Dr_willis> and i got tio go to work in 5 min. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> The Kubuntu PPC boot sequence is prettier then the  Normal one. :)
[02:59] <Dr_willis> and X is failing to start up like we said earlier. You could Login and try 'startx'
[02:59] <Dr_willis>  this is booting the Live cd? or is this an installed system>?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> No screens found ==> X is totally miss-configured it seems
[03:01] <DooderZ> ok
[03:01] <DooderZ> whats that  reconfigure cmd again
[03:01] <Dr_willis> I forget. :)
[03:01] <Dr_willis> And clean up your room! its a mess!
[03:01] <NickPresta> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <Dr_willis> work time for me. BYe - good luck
[03:02] <NickPresta> later, Dr_willis
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Let Sleeping Dogs Lie. :)
[03:02] <DooderZ> lol
[03:02] <DooderZ> my rooms clean
[03:02] <DooderZ> lol
[03:02] <DooderZ> LOL
[03:02] <DooderZ> ty nick
[03:02] <wad> I'm trying to get my wireless adapter working. I need to put a line in my /etc/network/interfaces file like "wpa-driver BLAH". How do I figure out what to put here?
[03:04] <DooderZ> i just sharted
[03:04] <DooderZ> its working
[03:04] <DooderZ> jesus loves my mac
[03:04] <DooderZ> TY ALL!
[03:04] <DooderZ> OMG
[03:04] <DooderZ> THANK YOU NICK!
[03:04] <NickPresta> DooderZ, no problem. Enjoy it.
[03:04] <DooderZ> thank you DR_WILLIS!
[03:04] <DooderZ> I WILL!
[03:04] <DooderZ> i can run my server again
[03:04] <DooderZ> im sooo ohappy
[03:04] <DooderZ> thank you thank you thank you!
[03:04] <Agent_bob>     We noticed that you're using an unsupported browser. The TripAdvisor
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[03:05] <NickPresta> Agent_bob, =(
[03:05] <DooderZ> ok im out
[03:05] <Agent_bob> yeah mouse grabbed line breaks   sorry
[03:05] <DooderZ> thank you again
[03:05] <NickPresta> bye
[03:05] <DooderZ> =)
[03:05] <DooderZ> bye
[03:06] <torrentzasd> i call the police on you
[03:07] <Jucato> torrentzasd: hm?
[03:08] <Jucato> yay klined :)
[03:08] <Bayko_> can neone tell me how to run cs on linux?
[03:09] <NickPresta> !wine | Bayko_
[03:09] <ubotu> Bayko_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:09] <Bayko_> thank you
[03:09] <Jucato> and #winehq for more specific help
[03:09] <Bayko_> !appdb
[03:09] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:09] <NickPresta> Bayko_, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3731
[03:09] <biovore> Bayko_: linux gamers has some stuff on it.. run it in dx8 for max performance
[03:12] <ubuntu> I've booted from a live cd, how do I mount my hdd? It tells me fixed-mount refused uid 999?
[03:13] <Bayko> how can i see if im registered?
[03:13] <Bayko> i did the register command and reconnected
[03:14] <Bayko> do i have to log in?
[03:14] <Jucato> Bayko: do a /whois on your nick, it will say if you're an identified user
[03:14] <Jucato> seems like you aren't
[03:15] <jetsaredim> if I'm able to make an iso of a dvd in k3b (meaning it could be read), I should be able to play said dvd with kaffiene
[03:15] <jetsaredim> right?
[03:15] <Bayko> do i have to log in?
[03:15] <Agent_bob> ubuntu   sudo mount /dev/<device_node> /mnt
[03:16] <Agent_bob> Bayko yes.   but your irc client can be setup to do that automaticly
[03:19] <niall_> teckstacy: hi
[03:23] <Jucato> Bayko: success
[03:23] <Bayko> :D
[03:23] <Jucato> [11:23] [Whois] Bayko is an identified user.
[03:23] <Bayko> wat was that program for windows apps?
[03:23] <Jucato> !wine | Bayko
[03:23] <ubotu> Bayko: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:24] <Bayko> alright thanks guys
[03:24] <Bayko> sleep now wrk tmrw morning
[03:24] <Bayko> thanks jucato ill prolly msg u tmrw
[03:25] <Jucato> Bayko: or ask in here for more help
[03:25] <Bayko> o ok sorry
[03:25] <Bayko> goodnight
[03:28] <Dogface> Hate to ask a really simple question here... but can't find it in the info and have wasted a lot of time fishing tonight.  how is a newly installed software added to the main pull down Kmenu?
[03:28] <jetsaredim> should be automagically during the debconf
[03:28] <jetsaredim> during the install
[03:29] <Jucato> if the package/app has a proper .desktop file, it should be added automatically
[03:29] <Dogface> Hmmmmm
[03:29] <Jucato> some apps, like command line utilities or apps, don't
[03:30] <Jucato> you can try adding it if it
[03:30] <Jucato> it's listed in "kappfinder" or add it manually
[03:30] <Dogface> I seem to remember some command that was supposed to update the menu somehow
[03:30] <Jucato> (or report a bug)
[03:30] <Jucato> Dogface: "kbuildsycoca" updates it
[03:30] <Dogface> THAT was it.  Sounds familiar immediately
[03:31] <ahmos> How I can install a program as a root?
[03:31] <penguincentral> ahmos: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[03:32] <Dogface> was that supposed to work for kde/dapper or was it any different?
[03:32] <Jucato> Dogface: kbuildsycoca? that's a standard KDE command. no matter what distro/version
[03:33] <ahmos> thank's
[03:44] <Agent_bob> anyone know off hand a good source for downloadable maps/atlas'  ?
[03:48] <ahmos> sorry I'm confused..I have this file name (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run) in the home folder and I want to install it.
[03:51] <Agent_bob> bash ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.09-pkg2.run
[03:51] <Agent_bob> maybe needs sudo
[03:52] <ahmos> ok it worked but how to close the x server
[03:54] <justin__> i use crossover office to play wow, and it works fine in gnome...but when i try to access it in the new KDE4 it will let me use the program, but there is no sound, i've tried searching for more info, but can't find it on the internet...i'm assuming it has something to do with the new kde4 sound system, but i don't know
[03:55] <Agent_bob> ahmos sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[04:00] <AMcBain> Having only had this installed since last night, I've gone through some adventures like trying to install Compiz-Fusion and having it mess everything up. However, the main greatest annoyance I can't find the setting for is that when windows start up they will almost always attach themselves to a screen-corner. Any idea why? (or how to fix)
[04:03] <Agent_bob> i wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
[04:04] <AMcBain> Which the setting or Compiz-Fusion? I had to disable the CF cause it messed things up so bad I couldn't really do anything. I got good at hitting alt+F2 and typing the command to enable the default KDE item ...
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> .
[04:04] <Agent_bob> the question.    all windows should default to opening in grid 0,0
[04:05] <Agent_bob> you can set them to remember the last location and size if you like.
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ open the compiz config settings manager (ccsm) -> wobbly windows -> and uncheck snap inverted
[04:06] <AMcBain> Well, some don't. I've seen them attach to the lower left, lower right, and I think the upper left once. (mostly the upper left, however, which is 0,0) I just want to to make them appear more inset, or at least remember where they were last opened. And I disabled Compix-Fusion.
[04:06] <AMcBain> Compiz*
[04:06] <AMcBain> upper right once*
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> well, thats how you fix it anyway
[04:07] <justin__> can anyone help me with a sound problem in kde4
[04:08] <Invisible_Slack> I'm trying to unload Module wlan and wlan_scan everytime I try to "rmmod wlan" it says its being used and won't unload how can I get this module unloaded?
[04:08] <Agent_bob> AMcBain normall kde   upper-left box/menu of the app window advanced settings for each type of app/window has lots of things you can twiddle with
[04:09] <Agent_bob> amongst the many are "remember position"  and "remember size"
[04:11] <AMcBain> Cool thanks.
[04:12] <AMcBain> (and I'm glad there was a solution rather than me spewing my "uneducated" opinion on the channel being an ubuntu n00b)
[04:12] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack   lsmod | grep wlan    and  sudo modprobe -r <each of them?>
[04:13] <Jimche> hey is anyone free to help ?
[04:13] <Jimche> still mega noob here
[04:13] <Agent_bob> AMcBain also of note for future referance.    kde is also known as "right click and configure it"
[04:14] <AMcBain> Well, while I'm here, is there any way to get it to turn off the laptop monitor? I use an external and the laptop monitor is smaller and wider, so it just displays everything at the same size and location as the external and it is rather redundant. I have checked out the various display settings.
[04:14] <AMcBain> Okay.
[04:14] <Agent_bob> AMcBain just a tip that comes in handy
[04:14] <mixed> anyone knows how to make jack work?
[04:14] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, slacker@slacker-laptop:~/madwifi-0.9.3.3/scripts$ sudo modprobe -r wlan
[04:14] <Invisible_Slack> FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ what video card do you use?
[04:15] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack and wlan was the only module that the first command returned ?
[04:15] <AMcBain> Heh, well that's just it. This is an ultra portable laptop with no card to speak of, only intel integrated which sucks even for the Windows OS ...
[04:15] <Jimche> OK well i gotta new wireless brother fax/scanner/thingy and it has wireless capabilities.... The software that comes with it is a Mac or windows program... what do i do ???????
[04:16] <AMcBain> (my next PC will have much better stats, this one I won and it was good at the time ...)
[04:16] <Agent_bob> AMcBain oh intel integrated,  very well supported in linux.
[04:16] <Invisible_Slack> same for wlan_scan_ath it won't shutdown either of those
[04:17] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ I'm running off a laptop now, and use have an external display that I use.  (it has an intel based graphics card as well)
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, slacker@slacker-laptop:~/madwifi-0.9.3.3/scripts$ lsmod | grep wlan
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> wlan_scan_sta          15104  1
[04:17] <Invisible_Slack> wlan                  206660  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:17] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack  there's your list.  wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:18] <Agent_bob> ath_pci
[04:18] <Agent_bob> ath_rate_sample
[04:18] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, well I'll be damned it worked, I tried getting them to stop 5 minutes ago but they wouldn't
[04:19] <AMcBain> Well, in the "Monitor & Display" settings, there is a box for a second screen, but it is grayed out, and the radio button says "clone of primary" ...
[04:19] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, thnx, this laptop is rather old and for some reason everytime I load a app or switch windows it freezes for a sec mouse won't move etc, making me frustrated lol
[04:19] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ you'll need to sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and then reconfigure your xorg.conf to use the "intel" driver
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no. they are order sensitive.   when you get the one holding up the show the rest will unload just fine....  :)
[04:19] <Jimche> OK well i gotta new wireless brother fax/scanner/thingy.... The software that comes with it is a Mac or windows program... what do i do ???????
[04:20] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack and.  welcome.
[04:20] <Invisible_Slack> Thnx I'm a old Slackeware User from 9.0 that hasn't touched linux in almost 4 years :S
[04:21] <AMcBain> sub[t]rnl, where would the xorg.conf go? (dir)
[04:21] <Agent_bob> slakware 9 old  heh.  i still have 4.0 on floppys.
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ its located in /etc/X11/
[04:21] <justin__> i use crossover office to play wow, and it works fine in gnome...but when i try to access it in the new KDE4 it will let me use the program, but there is no sound, i've tried searching for more info, but can't find it on the internet...i'm assuming it has something to do with the new kde4 sound system, but i don't know
[04:21] <justin__> any suggestions
[04:22] <Agent_bob> !kde4 | justin__ just one !!!
[04:22] <ubotu> justin__ just one !!!: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:22] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, hehe yea 9.0 is old I remember being decent, but man I forgot some much stuff, any idea why my mouse/system would freeze randomly on a fresh install?
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ be sure to create a backup before editing it.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through a complete reconfiguration of the file via ncurses.
[04:24] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack probably some peace of hardware not configured correctly, i.e. i/o error   you can check "dmesg"  and the syslogs for clues.
[04:24] <mixed> Ha!  I found out how to become invisible in this room, just mention jack or alsa. :-)
[04:24] <mixed> !jack
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <mixed> !alsa
[04:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, thnx I'll check dmesg and syslog, where is the syslog located again? lol
[04:25] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack unfortunately the more they try to make it "just work" the more they produce these kinds of "ooops"'s
[04:25] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack /var/log/*
[04:26]  * Agent_bob is not a fan of automatic krap !
[04:26] <Invisible_Slack> yea as i'm finding out, trying to install madwifi and its giving error's already this is a fresh install how can I have error's!! lol :P
[04:27] <Invisible_Slack> i know its avaliable via package manager I installed that but couldn't find where to start the module etc so I removed it and opted to do it the old fashioned way
[04:27] <Agent_bob> !madwifi
[04:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <Invisible_Slack> I hate bots that are smarter then me ;p
[04:28] <Agent_bob> ubotu introduce yourself
[04:28] <Agent_bob> oh well.   shy bot
[04:28] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[04:28] <Invisible_Slack> :P
[04:29] <Agent_bob> ubotu hello
[04:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:29] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[04:29] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:29] <AMcBain> sub[t]rnl I don't think that really changed anything, but oh well ...
[04:31] <firecrotch> So that's how to get people to shut up....
[04:31] <Agent_bob> bah   i have to go for an "end service" tomarrow.   i hate those things.   but if you want "the people" to pay you you have to go to them....
[04:32] <AMcBain> I'll just put the original conf file back ...
[04:32] <Invisible_Slack> "end service"?
[04:32] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack that's the official name.
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ you'll need to restart kdm for it to take effect.
[04:32] <AMcBain> oh
[04:32] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, Military?
[04:32] <AMcBain> Can I do that without having to log out then back in?
[04:33] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no. civilian.
[04:33] <sub[t]rnl> you'll have to login to kdm
[04:33] <Invisible_Slack> Bah, I miss my main PC, damn Motherboard had to go out on me making me RMA it;(
[04:33] <sub[t]rnl> unless you have it setup to auto login
[04:33] <AMcBain> enh, I'll just log out and back in, it's easiest.
[04:33] <AMcBain> brb
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> lol, Don't Panic
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> funny
[04:35] <AMcBain> Nope nothing new that I can see.
[04:36] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl best quit message i can recall seeing was "i believe that the answer to the population problem is to remove all warning lables and let nature run it's course!"
[04:36] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, i've heard that before.  good stuff
[04:36]  * AMcBain gives up.
[04:36] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, Ok I'm at the website the bot showed me and its telling me to run a svn command but its telling me command unknown for SVN
[04:37] <Invisible_Slack> Agent_bob, tried "apt-get install svn" but says can't find a svn package
[04:37] <firecrotch> !info svn
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ now that your using the intel driver, you should be able to switch displays however you'd like them using xrandr
[04:37] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in gutsy
[04:37] <firecrotch> !info subversion
[04:37] <ubotu> subversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4dfsg1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 235 kB, installed size 3392 kB
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ google for some examples of how to use it
[04:37] <Agent_bob> check that the instruction are for the release you are using   ;/
[04:37] <firecrotch> Invisible_Slack:  Package name is "subverson"
[04:37] <firecrotch> *subversion
[04:38] <AMcBain> Yeah, but shouldn't there be some kind of GUI associated with xrandr? I'm not against command lines, it's just that the Linux one is not my native CL ...
[04:39] <Agent_bob> AMcBain :)
[04:39] <ahmos> I can't install the nvidia river after closing the x server ....no such file message
[04:39] <firecrotch> AMcBain: There is one called URandR, but I know absolutely nothing about it
[04:40] <Agent_bob> ahmos you may have put it in ~/Desktop/*   ?     what command are you issuing ?
[04:40] <AMcBain> I can't really help that this is the first time I have really used Linux and my ideas of taste are shaped by XP (which is rather stable, which is surprising given M$)
[04:41] <firecrotch> AMcBain:  You get over that, eventually :) I know I did
[04:41] <ahmos> first (cd /home/ahmos/Desktop) then(sudo bash and the file name)
[04:41] <Agent_bob> ahmos are you sure that it's in that dir ?
[04:41] <Agent_bob> look in ..
[04:42] <ahmos> yes but I close x server by ALT+CTRL+ F2
[04:42] <Agent_bob> that's not closed.  alt+f7 and you are back in it.
[04:43] <AMcBain> firecrotch: Well, I rather like XP, but not for it being an M$ product, but I also like Linux just because it's rather nice. My next PC will have tons of space (keep saying that because I'm not dreaming, I will need one about the time summer starts) and I can give Linux as much space as I want. (and do whatever I want) Right now it's rather limited as I didn't have a ton of left over space to give it.
[04:43] <ahmos> so I try ALT + F7 now?!
[04:44] <Agent_bob> ahmos to close xorg you have to kill kdm    "or what ever dm started it"
[04:45] <ahmos> man I'm a one week linux user so plz tell me how to kill kdm or what shall I do?
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> ps -aux
[04:46] <typoe> from commans line type killall kdm
[04:46] <Agent_bob> ahmos by default linux opens six vertual terminals (consoles) and the ubuntu default is to open a seventh one with the display manager running in it.  "kdm for kubuntu and gdm for ubuntu"    you may switch between these vt's with the hotkeys  ctrl+alt+f#
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> find ou what ID gdm or kdm iand type kill ID
[04:46] <typoe> killall is easier
[04:46] <Invisible_Slack> lol
[04:47] <Agent_bob> ahmos you can kill the dm but issuning a command to stop the process    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop      and start it again the same way.
[04:47] <typoe> killall is easier
[04:47] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start   < to start it.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> typoe not always.
[04:48] <Agent_bob> typoe and killall doesn't start it back up.
[04:48] <ahmos> I'm going to try now
[04:48] <Invisible_Slack> killall would do alot mo then kill just your gdm
[04:48] <Invisible_Slack> lol
[04:48] <Agent_bob> ahmos the command to list the contents of a dirrectory is ls (lower case LS)
[04:49] <ahmos> ok
[04:49] <typoe> slack you need to man killall
[04:49] <Agent_bob> Invisible_Slack no not "killall5"  killall blah   would only kill "blah"   killall5 is the unix killall eq.
[04:50] <Invisible_Slack> I thought just "killall" killed everything, if you put something behind it then it kill just that.. like killall mysql
[04:50] <Agent_bob> that's killall5   ^
[04:50] <Invisible_Slack> it would kill all the mysql process's, my bad
[04:50] <typoe> slack you maybe thinking of solaris killall or something, we are using linux
[04:51] <Agent_bob> killall blah kills blah and it's children    killall5 kills everything that it can kill no matter how or why.
[04:51] <slyboots> Hello :)
[04:51] <typoe> killall5 only good for shutdown not for this
[04:52] <Agent_bob> typoe but i like kill -9 -1   for that.
[04:52] <slyboots> Does anyone know any guides for getting the Thinkpad R61i features working in KDE (Kubuntu) Having issues with a few of the speical keys and ACPI does not seem to be working correctly (The laptop died from lack of battery power without warning me or hibernating the machine)
[04:52] <typoe> well, if you want it dead without any nice shutdown, ok
[04:53] <typoe> easir to hit reset button
[04:53] <Agent_bob> that will mess up file systems
[04:53] <typoe> kill -9 1 might mess up file systems too
[04:54] <Agent_bob> magic sysRQ to the rescue.
[04:54] <Agent_bob> typoe nah.  just kills what can be killed.   doesn't umount anything nor reboot
[04:54] <firecrotch> In theory, any time you kill a process that is in the middle of doing something, you can mess up a filessytem
[04:54] <Agent_bob> firecrotch ?
[04:54] <biovore> most likly just leave a mess on the filesystem
[04:55] <typoe> fiecrotch in theory all progams are buggy or trivial
[04:55] <Agent_bob> yeah i agree.   mess on it,  not break it.
[04:55] <Invisible_Slack> the damn package manager crashed and now I can't get it started its locked lol
[04:56] <biovore> !apt_fix
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt_fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <biovore> !aptfix
[04:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:56] <firecrotch> !adeptfix | Invisible_Slack
[04:56] <ubotu> Invisible_Slack: please see above
[04:56]  * firecrotch shakes fist @ biovore
[04:56] <Agent_bob> !adeptcrash
[04:56] <slyboots> Well, What application controls power managment under KDE?
[04:56] <typoe> slack I think if you try apt from the command line it might show you the command to unlock it
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> guidance-power-manager
[04:57] <slyboots> Hm, thats already running
[04:57] <slyboots> But my brightness keys don't appear to be working as they should (hitting them does nothing) and low battery warning is not kicking in, o rwarning or doing much of anything
[04:58] <deuryt1> can some one do me a favor ??
[04:58] <typoe> use power cord then
[04:58] <AMcBain> Mine properly detects I went to battery ...
[04:58] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 yes
[04:58] <typoe> yes I know, not a helpful suggestion
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> -1 typoe
[04:59] <deuryt1> can you please go to #politics,  look for "xcell", tell him i am in this room,
[04:59] <slyboots> It detects when Im on the battery, it just does nothing when the battery is low like it should, (its detecting the "percentage" of battery level
[04:59] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 are you banned there ?
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> deuryt1➜ you could use /notice
[05:00] <firecrotch> deuryt1:  Can't you just /msg him?
[05:00] <Agent_bob> deuryt1 and yeah what firecrotch said ^
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> most likely he's not registered
[05:00] <deuryt1> no, it says i must be identified 1st,  i was just there 30 min agao, i might have messed up a setting some where, not sure........
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> try /notice
[05:01] <DuEzZzIeR> hi
[05:01] <deuryt1> im new to kubuntu
[05:01] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl pong
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ :p
[05:03] <slyboots> Apparnelty I need to run "kmilo" to configure my keys correctly, but I cant find where the daemon control for it (kmilo) is
[05:03] <Agent_bob> well i think i better go,  have too much to do to do todays work and tomarrows so i can go that '^@@^%@$^@#%!' end service
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> laters ab
[05:04] <Agent_bob> ttfn said tigger
[05:04] <deuryt1> what does this mean???         Cannot join #politics: Registration is required.
[05:05] <typoe> means you cant join politics I guess
[05:05] <biovore> need to be registered with nick serve to join channel
[05:05] <biovore> !register
[05:05] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:05] <deuryt1> ty
[05:06] <slyboots> Anyone know how I change the keybindings in kMilo? I'm trying to check if the brightness keys are bound to do what they are suppoesd to
[05:06] <slyboots> But I dont see any menu or program to configure that behaviour
[05:07] <typoe> slyb thats a function of the bios isnt it?
[05:07] <slyboots> Its controled by APCI
[05:07] <typoe> oh ok
[05:07] <slyboots> All this works in Gnome, so I dont see why it should not be working in KDE
[05:08] <ahmos> sorry but who was helping me!!!?!!
[05:08] <typoe> theyr gone, whats wrong
[05:09] <ahmos> is there a development package called libc or something?
[05:09] <biovore> I think..
[05:09] <biovore> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <biovore> search
[05:09] <typoe> hehe libc could be called THE development package
[05:10] <biovore> libc5-dev
[05:10] <biovore> libc6-dev
[05:10] <ahmos> yes how to install them
[05:11] <ahmos> i can't find them in the add/remove pro.
[05:11] <typoe> should prolly use adept manager or something like that
[05:11] <biovore> in the shell type: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[05:12] <slyboots> Either Im missing something, or the kubunut-power managment program has no way to configure the kmilo bindings at all
[05:12] <ahmos> I want libc because i couldn't install nvidia driver an it asked to download libc
[05:13] <biovore> I think there is a kmilo packages
[05:13] <ahmos> so I install libc 6 or 5 or the all
[05:13] <slyboots> I've kmilo already installed, I just cant figure out how to configure my brightness buttons
[05:13] <biovore> ahmos: depends on what your building
[05:13] <biovore> probably 6
[05:14] <ahmos> 64 bit
[05:14] <biovore> you building for 64bit on 64bit ?
[05:15] <ahmos> sorry I think I'm confused
[05:18] <ahmos> ok ,how i can open the x server after closing it
[05:19] <biovore> login on the command line
[05:19] <biovore> startx
[05:19] <ahmos> ok thank u
[05:19] <biovore> or
[05:20] <biovore> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:20] <biovore> for the login manager
[05:20] <ahmos> ok
[05:20] <ahmos> I'm going to try again
[05:31] <sigma> when i run ""echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"" it always says permission denied even if i run it as sudo. how do i run it?
[05:33] <preston_baes> i have a quick question
[05:34] <se7en> sigma: echo >> to add something echo > to over write all
[05:34] <preston_baes> i need to know if you can  manually adjust the screen size to where you desktop and start bar fits inside your monitor
[05:35] <sigma> se7en: so what should i type?
[05:35] <sub[t]rnl> might want to use tee
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> echo "whatever" | sudo tee -a /where/ever
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> -a to append
[05:36] <se7en> sigma: i don't know what you want to do if you want your /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward file reads "1" than do > if you want to add "1" do >>
[05:38] <sigma> ok that kinda works. im trying to share my usb internet connection
[05:38] <sigma> let me see if it works
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> echo "1" | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will work, sudo echo "1" >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will not
[05:39] <ahmos> can I adjust computer to turn off automatically after a specified time
[05:39] <sigma> yeah thats what worked to me
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> ahmos➜ at command
[05:39] <sigma> ahmos: you need to schedule a cronjob
[05:40] <sub[t]rnl> cron even better
[05:40] <ahmos> how
[05:40] <preston_baes> or you bios can do it
[05:40] <preston_baes> some do
[05:40] <preston_baes> mine does
[05:40] <preston_baes> it turns on and shuts down
[05:41] <ahmos> i want to do it with the os
[05:41] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: why do you need tee -a for that
[05:41] <preston_baes> then use what he said
[05:41] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ not sure, just does
[05:42] <ahmos> how to schedule a cronjob?
[05:42] <Invisible_Slack> Ok got the wireless working!! :P now to my next problem
[05:43] <preston_baes> hey sub do you have a idea how i can manually put in my screen size?
[05:43] <Invisible_Slack> Anyone able to give me a hand, I looked in /var/log/syslog to find out if something was conflicting to cause this freezing and noticed alot of 2 problems
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> se7en➜ it seems thats the only way to redirect stdout and have it overwrite root owned files
[05:43] <Invisible_Slack> Jan 28 20:02:13 slacker-laptop kernel: [ 1022.704000] cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[05:44] <Invisible_Slack> Jan 28 20:02:13 slacker-laptop kernel: [ 1022.704000] psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away.
[05:44] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ /etc/X11/xorg.conf? sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for normal configuration
[05:44] <se7en> sub[t]rnl: ok didn
[05:44] <Invisible_Slack> THose are my 2 problems that look to be something bad
[05:44] <se7en> know that
[05:44] <preston_baes> it fails when i do that
[05:44] <preston_baes> when i goto to the adjust color depth it fails
[05:44] <preston_baes> to that point anyways
[05:45] <sigma> i have a kubuntu server, can i get it to start kdm only when im maintaining it? ie- when i normally start it up i don't want kdm to start
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ does it spit out any interesting errors?
[05:45] <preston_baes> not really
[05:45] <preston_baes> i will try it
[05:46] <preston_baes> and give you ther errors
[05:46] <sigma> also if kdm doesnt start how would i get it to login automatically?
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ sudo update-rc.d kdm remove, you can always start it via /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:46] <preston_baes> does kde support high def. tv  screens and if so do you think i might have a problem with a 26in screen?
[05:47] <preston_baes> is that my problem maybe>?
[05:47] <djblizzzard> kde isn't your concern... it's X11 :)
[05:47] <preston_baes> okay
[05:47] <djblizzzard> First, the big question is whether your video card supports HD...
[05:47] <preston_baes> yup
[05:48] <preston_baes> im using it on the livecd right now
[05:48] <preston_baes> but
[05:48] <djblizzzard> what chipset is it?
[05:48] <preston_baes> nvidia 7300le
[05:48] <preston_baes> 256mb
[05:48] <djblizzzard> are you connecting via dvi or hdmi? (just curious more than a functional question0
[05:48] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ok but if i don't start it up and leave the server unlogged in will i still be able to access apache and nfs?
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ thats how I do it
[05:49] <preston_baes> from m y card its dvi to tv its hdmi
[05:49] <preston_baes> so dvi-hdmi
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ just boot it up, when I can ping it, I know I can log in, don't even have a monitor attached to my server
[05:49] <djblizzzard> Cuz here's the deal.  It's goint to be misleading to go from the livecd, because you really need to load the nvidia drvier set for your card.  You can try getting the correct resolution with the nv set, however you may/maynot run into difficulty doing so...
[05:50] <preston_baes> okay
[05:50] <preston_baes> i'll install this beast and ill brb in 15
[05:50] <djblizzzard> that being said, it's probably going to be a whole lot easier to prove whether you can or not, if you actually install kubuntu, because the restricted driver manager will try to add nvidia's driver for you...
[05:50] <djblizzzard> :)
[05:51] <djblizzzard> :)
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> smiled yourself right offa freenode, djb
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[05:55] <maduser> que?
[05:56] <sn00zer> is it possible for a mac address to be abnormally long and separated by `-` instead of `:`
[05:56] <maduser> why?
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, I've seen them separated by either
[05:56] <sn00zer> i was looking at ifconfig and my wifi card says the hwaddr is 00-14-a5-ee-fc.......
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> doesn't hurt anything
[05:57] <sn00zer> it has 16 sets of 2
[05:58] <sub[t]rnl> a bunch of 00's?
[05:58] <sn00zer> the last 8 sets
[05:58] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: ok i removed kdm like you said and i can access the server perfectly but it gets to a point "Running local boot scripts" and won't go beyond there
[05:59]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[05:59] <liz_> hey everyone, are there any spyware/antivirus and disk clean up software available for kubuntu????
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ cause theres nothing to do past that
[05:59] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: yeah i see ctrl+d brings up the textmode login prompt. ok cool looks good
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> liz_➜ spyware and virus don't -really- pertain to linux
[06:00] <sub[t]rnl> liz_➜ if you do some googling, you'll understand why
[06:00] <sigma> !virus
[06:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:00] <sigma> read that article above
[06:01] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: how can i check in the text mode how much memory the pc is using?
[06:01] <liz_> oh ok, cool guys
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ free -m
[06:01] <sigma> wow a whole 204mb. not too bad
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> nice
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> trying to lean it out?
[06:02] <liz_> how about disk defrag and the likes???
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> ext3 is a journalling filesystem, doesn't need "defragged"
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> but there is fsck and such for the drives
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> gets ran on 20? or so harddrive boots
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> maybe 30
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> can't remember
[06:03] <cpk1> the only disk maintenence you will really need to do is maybe clear out the package cache if you have a small hard drive
[06:03] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: yeah it only has 256mb memory and for some reason beyond me i didnt create a swap partition
[06:04] <liz_> mine linux partition is 20gb
[06:04] <liz_> my^
[06:04] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ wouldn't worry about, mkswap if you need it
[06:05] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: oh ok thanks. this server has a cronjob that shuts itself down at 10pm everyday, will that still run if i don't login to it when starting it up?
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[06:05] <sigma> ok cool
[06:06] <liz_> just wondering, because don't want it to slow down in the long run, not much a concern now :-)
[06:06] <sigma> thanks for all the help. much appreciated
[06:06] <sub[t]rnl> anytime bro
[06:07] <sigma> liz_: linux pc's unlike their windows counterparts don't really slow down in the future
[06:07] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, <3 linux
[06:08] <sigma> a hard drive problem is of course a seperate issue
[06:08] <liz_> sweet, ok, kinda wierd to hear tho
[06:09] <liz_> well thx for the info sigma and sub[t]rnl :-)
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> no problemo
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[06:10] <sigma> kinda weird, ive managed to replace all the windows programs i used in linux except for activesync
[06:10] <sigma> liz_: pleasure
[06:11] <sigma> if only those sad microsoft people would release a opensource version
[06:11] <sigma> but i see synce is coming up slowly but surely. still doesn't quite work for my device though
[06:12] <preston_baes> okay im back
[06:12] <preston_baes> it's installed what do you want me to do now?
[06:13] <liz_> that's awesome, hopefully I'll get to do all that replacing as well :-)
[06:14] <preston_baes> i just got a pop up of a restricted driver saying something about no proprietary driver for my nvidia card is being used
[06:16] <liz_> is there a way to make your text color permanently a diff color?
[06:17] <liz_> on konversation I mean :-)
[06:19] <noaXess> !ntfs
[06:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:22] <liz_> Interesting article, well see you guys another time
[06:22] <sub[t]rnl> take care liz_
[06:23] <preston_baes> hey sub
[06:24] <sub[t]rnl> heyas
[06:24] <preston_baes> im using the nv driver
[06:24] <preston_baes> but i've updated the nvidia stuff through adept
[06:25] <preston_baes> i'm kinda new to kubuntu do you need to restart x b4 things get fully installed?
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> yes sir
[06:25] <preston_baes> kk
[06:25] <preston_baes> brb
[06:25] <sub[t]rnl> not fully installed, but take affect
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ let me clarify something
[06:29] <preston_baes> okay
[06:29] <unda> yo anybody?
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ the only reason I said yes was because you mentioned the nv driver.
[06:29] <preston_baes> ok
[06:29] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ you won't have to restart under normal conditions.. hardly ever.. unless your updating a video driver, xserver itself, or, say a kernel upgrade
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ thats the beauty of linux
[06:30] <preston_baes> okay
[06:30] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ what can I do you for
[06:31] <preston_baes> well the last time i went from nv to nvidia thats when i restarted and it brought the nvidia sign up and it crashed
[06:31] <preston_baes> saying it could load the splash
[06:31] <preston_baes> couldn't**
[06:31] <unda> im installing kde4
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> !kde4 > unda
[06:32] <unda> but wnted 2 know if i theres something i should know b4 installing it
[06:32] <ol_dude67> unda, ya it has a lot of bugs right now.
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> nothing really.  just keep in mind it just reached its new 4.0 threshold.
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> so a lot of the customizations and such havn't matured
[06:33] <unda> k
[06:33] <calamari> hi
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> glass is half full type stuff :<
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> err, :>
[06:33] <ol_dude67> other then that once they have it straightened out it will be nice.
[06:33] <unda> n its compiz fus availble?
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> its available, sure
[06:34] <sigma> !compiz
[06:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:35] <unda> btw any good wwb with skins or something¡
[06:35] <unda> ?
[06:35] <calamari> I was trying to figure out why my midi daughterboard wasn't working.. so I went to the driver source and found out it was "legacy" and disabled by default.  So, I decided to enable it and compile.  However, for some unknown reason, the linux-source-2.6.20 doesn't seem to actually be the same as the kernel, because the module complains: snd_au8830: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module   how can I fix this?
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> whats wwb?
[06:35] <preston_baes> hey sub how can i add a screen size
[06:35] <unda> web
[06:35] <unda> *site
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> kde-look.org?
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ adding a resolution to your xorg.conf?
[06:36] <unda> well ima change session
[06:36] <preston_baes> yeah
[06:36] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: do you know how to shift a screen slightly to the left? to adjust it
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ can do it by hand, or use the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> sigma➜ yeah I use the buttons on front of my monitor :>
[06:37] <preston_baes> i cant do that
[06:37] <preston_baes> boohoo
[06:37] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ if your using nvidia, try the nice little nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig that comes with it :)
[06:38] <preston_baes> how do i get into those settings?
[06:38] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: lol kinda hard in my case because its a tv screen im trying to adjust! when my laptop outputs to it, the display is a bit too much to the right on the tv
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ type them in console
[06:38] <preston_baes> okay
[06:39] <sigma> sub[t]rnl: i dont believe how xorg could leave that feature out!
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> muaha
[06:40] <unda> wow ots sw33t
[06:40] <preston_baes> may i paste something here?
[06:40] <preston_baes> ann error
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> yeah its ok, its not busy
[06:40] <sub[t]rnl> usually use pastebin though during peak times
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> (i hope its not something huge though.. like your Xorg.0.log)
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA VCSCs on ':0.0'.
[06:41] <preston_baes> lol
[06:41] <preston_baes> no not that big
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> what command?
[06:41] <preston_baes> westy@westy-desktop:~$ nvidia-xconfig
[06:41] <preston_baes> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[06:41] <preston_baes> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[06:42] <Invisible_Slack> is there a way for Kubuntu to automaticly connect to a specific wireless network on start up?
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ ah, use kdesudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:42] <preston_baes> ohh okay
[06:42] <preston_baes> haha
[06:42] <unda> how can i remove the recently open tab
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ system settings -> advanced -> session manager
[06:43] <Invisible_Slack> anyone know how to do that?
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> (not sure if thats what you mean)
[06:43] <preston_baes> got it
[06:43] <preston_baes> hrm
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> Invisible_Slack➜ hrm, if you connect to a wireless network via knetworkmanager, it should try to reconnect to the last "working" wifi network when it starts again
[06:45] <unda> ty ^^
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> Invisible_Slack➜ also, you might want to look at kwifimanager
[06:45] <sub[t]rnl> !info kwifimanager | Invisible_Slack
[06:45] <ubotu> invisible_slack: kwifimanager (source: kdenetwork): wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 236 kB, installed size 804 kB
[06:46] <Invisible_Slack> let me try, for some reason using the Madwifi drivers its not using DHCP to get a IP address I'm having to load "Wireless Assistant" Everytime to reconnect
[06:47] <Invisible_Slack> I try KwifiManager but it won't load
[06:47] <unda> how do i enable themes
[06:47] <Invisible_Slack> There we go it's loading.. Let me retry and restart lets see if its using DHCP, which I doubt
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ alt +f2 and enter kcontrol  then go to appearance and themes, theme manager
[06:49] <Jucato> !changethemes
[06:49] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> need to remember that one :>
[06:51] <lamerman> i installed kubuntu server and the program that runned on it crashed. Is it possible to find out why? becouse sigsegv or sigkill or maybe it finished correctly
[06:51] <lamerman> is there some system log that logs it on default
[06:51] <lamerman> ?
[06:58] <sub[t]rnl> lamerman➜ not sure what would log it.  You can comb through /var/log/syslog but I doubt that would have anything relevant.
[07:00] <preston_baes> x crashed woowee
[07:00] <preston_baes> hey sub
[07:00] <preston_baes> i got the error this time
[07:00] <mohd> hi guys. What is KDE's default window decorator?
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ kwin
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ yo
[07:00] <mohd> thanks
[07:01] <preston_baes> fatal io error 104
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> whens that show up?
[07:02] <preston_baes>  and when i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:02] <preston_baes> yeah
[07:02] <preston_baes> right when it loads it crashes to a terminal
[07:02] <mohd> is there any way to use KDE's
[07:02] <mohd> Ceramic theme with compiz?
[07:02] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ did you make a backup of a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:02] <preston_baes> yes
[07:03] <mohd> How?
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> thats what your on now, i take it?
[07:03] <preston_baes> nope
[07:03] <mohd> compiz, but I think it's using gtk to decorate
[07:03] <preston_baes> thats what i need to know how to go back
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ where did you put the backup?
[07:04] <preston_baes> xserver-xorg overwriting possibley-customissed configuration back up locataed at /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20080129015422
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ emerald is the default window decorator with compiz.  I would imagine you could use the two together just fine
[07:04] <preston_baes> thats what happends when i do the sudo
[07:05] <preston_baes> shows all that
[07:05] <blizzzek> moin
[07:05] <sub[t]rnl> preston_baes➜ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080129015422 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <mohd> sub[t]rnl->I was hoping to use kwin's ceramik theme, i really like it. But I guess I am gonna have to use emerald if I want to use compiz
[07:06] <preston_baes> okay ill try that
[07:06] <preston_baes> brb
[07:06] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ yeah, could be a way to do it though, never give in :>
[07:08] <sub[t]rnl> mohd➜ check out the compiz-kde package
[07:09] <mohd> hmm, never heard of it. Thanks, i'll check it out
[07:09] <Jucato> mohd: or you could use Aquamarine if it still exists
[07:09] <mohd> It doesn't, I don't think so at least
[07:09] <Jucato> you can ask in #compiz-fusion
[07:10] <mohd> It's ok, I just got a theme that combines aero with aqua xD
[07:11] <adrock358> yo guys i'm on liveCD and I'm trying to D/L torrent to my hd.  I did this, but i can't write to the drive still.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53940/    any body tell me what to do?
[07:11] <adrock358> anybody?
[07:12] <redbeared1> Hey I got a quick question... if anyone is on?
[07:13] <posingaspopular> !ask
[07:13] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:13] <mohd> haha, I found an exact copy of the theme I wanted on the compiz theme website!
[07:13] <redbeared1> lol ok
[07:13] <redbeared1> I was wondering if there is an MMORPG for linux users?
[07:13] <Jucato> !games
[07:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:13] <mohd> runespace
[07:14] <mohd> runescape* I think
[07:14] <mohd> http://www.runescape.com/
[07:14] <redbeared1> I heard that sux lol
[07:14] <redbeared1> meh I guess I'll check out the boards bbl all
[07:14] <mohd> friend plays it
[07:15] <mohd> thanks for your help guys
[07:15] <redbeared1> does he?
[07:15] <adrock358> Anybody?
[07:15] <mohd> school night, 2:15 AM
[07:15] <redbeared1> I miss school...
[07:15] <redbeared1> oh wow there's a lot of them ttyl
[07:17] <Jucato> !mount | adrock358
[07:17] <ubotu> adrock358: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:18] <Jucato> hm... that's not really the right one... but kinda ok...
[07:18] <adrock358> i'm actually on ubuntu
[07:19] <Jucato> adrock358: you have to mount the partition with the correct settings/permissions.. what those are depends on what type of partition it is
[07:19] <Jucato> er.. what filesystem
[07:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello.  I have installed Kubuntu 7.10 onto my laptop.  Once the laptop goes to sleep and is "woken" audio doesn't play.  How can I restart the audio w/o booting the pc?
[07:28] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[07:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> Audio is working when I start the laptop.  Once the laptop goes to sleep mode and is "awaken", that is when the sound fails.
[07:31] <redbeard1> anyone have any preferences to package managers?
[07:31] <redbeard1> or do they all do pretty much the same thing?
[07:31] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
[07:31] <ol_dude67> see if that works?
[07:32] <redbeard1> is that to me or somenoe else? lol
[07:32] <sgrover> redbeard1: find the one that is fastest and stablest for you.....
[07:32] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, to someone else unless you need to restart sound
[07:32] <sgrover> Or just leave the defaults...
[07:33] <redbeard1> ahh ok ty
[07:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> ol_dude67, that command is not found.
[07:33] <sgrover> I like to use the local university for speed, but it's unstable some times, or out of date (rarely)
[07:33] <redbeard1> sgrover: well I was just wanting ppls opinions and maybe reasons why they used them
[07:34] <sgrover> redbeard1: understood.  But I think its a "what works best for YOU" type of thing.. :)
[07:34] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, did you do sudo?
[07:34] <redbeard1> yeah I understand that as well.. but I"m a n00b so pretty much everything does the trick ...
[07:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> yes, and when I do an ls of /etc/init.d/  alsasound isn't there.
[07:35] <ol_dude67> ah ok, well im not that good with that part of the settings, maybe get help with it from someone more knowing then i with kubuntu.
[07:36] <sgrover> redbeard1: we all start some place.. :)
[07:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok.
[07:36] <ol_dude67> or try google, it might have the answer for you or in the forums
[07:36] <redbeard1> sgrover: k
[07:36] <redbeard1> !MMORPG
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <redbeard1> !MMORPG games
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg games - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <redbeard1> bother
[07:37] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, as i dont have a laptop, so i would just be slowing you down.
[07:38] <sgrover> redbeard1: looking for a mmorpg?  Try The Mana World - it's in the add/remove software tool....
[07:38] <redbeard1> is it?
[07:38] <redbeard1> sgrover: yeah I am is it a good one?
[07:39] <redbeard1> sgrover: I used to play conqueronline on my old PC b4 the MOBO fried and got quite high but it was windows based and I don't think my (much older) pc can handle it
[07:42] <sgrover> redbeard1: I just found TMW last week.  It's not too bad.  Though I think I've exhausted the "quests" already....
[07:42] <sgrover> another option is maybe The Battle of Wesnoth - in multiplayer mode...  Single player mode is pretty good on it's own...
[07:43] <redbeard1> sgrover: what's TMW? and when searching for "MMORPG" I"m only get Sear and it's a 3d client for Worldforge MMORPGs. Can you add repos to Adept?
[07:44] <redbeard1> getting*
[07:44] <sgrover> http://themanaworld.org/  (tmw = the mana world)
[07:44] <redbeard1> ahh ok
[07:44] <redbeard1> duh brainfart lol
[07:45] <sgrover> redbeard1: yep, you can add repos to Adept as needed.  Or just edit the /etc/apt/source.list file if you're comfortable with that...
[07:46] <redbeard1> sgrover: can't seem to figger out where to add them to...
[07:46] <sgrover> In adept - go to Adept on the menu bar, then to Manage Repositories.  Then click the Third Party Software tab.
[07:46] <sgrover> Then click the Add button.
[07:46] <redbeard1> it only has the option to quit...
[07:47] <sgrover> Give it a moment, when you open Adept, it greys out the options while it updates the displayed lists....
[07:47] <sgrover> My box is a little fast, so I don't normally see these types of issues...
[07:48] <redbeard1> sorry d00d it's the only option up there (no greyed options)
[07:49] <sgrover> hmmm.. did you open Adept as a regular user?  Were you prompted for your password?
[07:50] <redbeard1> prompted for pass
[07:50] <sgrover> odd... There is a "fetch updates" option under that menu....
[07:51] <redbeard1> nope just a search box
[07:51] <redbeard1> Synaptic has that though
[07:51] <sgrover> so you installed Ubuntu then later added the kde desktop?
[07:51] <redbeard1> aye
[07:51] <redbeard1> don't have kubuntu natively
[07:52] <sgrover> k, in that case, you can change the repositories with synaptic - adept uses the same list.
[07:52] <redbeard1> yeah ol_dude67 I tried d/lding it and burning it but my last blank CD didn't take the burn
[07:52] <redbeard1> ahh hok
[07:52] <redbeard1> so use Synaptic than?
[07:53] <ol_dude67> um ok, and i know whats going on?
[07:53] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, next time check the download.
[07:53] <sgrover> One thing that comes to mind is that your adept might be an older version.  Doing an update/upgrade *may* fix the problem...  doubtful, but can't hurt.. :)
[07:53] <redbeard1> thought I had talked to you the other night about me using Ubuntu 6.06 and you said that Kubuntu 7.10 was out and to try it
[07:54]  * sgrover chuckles at conversations with breaks measuring days....
[07:54] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, if i had i would of told you that you could of upgraded one step at a time as well.
[07:54] <redbeard1> sgrover: yeah I keep trying to do updates but nothing can seem to find anything to update anymore lol
[07:55] <redbeard1> ahh ok ol_dude
[07:55] <sgrover> redbeard1: open a console.  Type in "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade".  See if you get any errors.  If so, those need to be resolved first.
[07:55] <redbeard1> ahh kk brb
[07:56] <sgrover> hate to steer you to the console, but I know it'll give you a clear idea of what's going on here.
[07:56] <ol_dude67> cause i dont think you can go straight from 6.06 to 7.10 you have to go from 6.06 to the next then the next if im right...maybe with ubuntu different, but thats what all the others tell me.
[07:57] <sgrover> ol_dude67: in *theory* you should be able to go from 6.06 right to 7.10... it's just a change to the sources.list file, update, upgrade, then sit back...
[07:57] <sgrover> of course, upgrades (instead of re-installs) are always a little odd....
[07:57] <redbeard1> no errors
[07:57] <ol_dude67> sgrover, i didnt think they had hal or sda back then and with it came errors.
[07:57] <redbeard1> update said everything was updated
[07:58] <redbeard1> and upgrade found nothing
[07:58] <ol_dude67> sgrover, i fought all of that in slack, so im really going by it, i just now switched to kubuntu.:(
[07:59] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yep, this is why I no longer run Gentoo - I'd rather USE my box than WORK ON it.  (i.e. low maintenance) :)
[07:59] <ol_dude67> not to mention xorg peed me off.
[07:59] <DuEzZzIeR> GG~BBL
[08:00] <sgrover> redbeard1: bear with me here.  I'm going to cover the basics and ask the blindingly obvious.. :)
[08:00] <sgrover> First, open adept.
[08:00] <redbeard1> sgrover: no worries mate I'm learning as I go (when I say n00b I mean N00B)
[08:00] <sgrover> Now, find the menu bar - it's the line of text just under the title bar of the window.
[08:01] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, your not a noob, your a newbie.
[08:01] <redbeard1> lol ok
[08:01] <sgrover> On the left side of that you should see the word "Adept".
[08:01] <sgrover> Just above the "Fetch Updates" button.
[08:01] <redbeard1> I see the top of the window that says (title of the window)
[08:01] <redbeard1> and then menu
[08:01] <sgrover> ahhh... that explains it.
[08:02] <redbeard1> including: Adept, Edit and so forth
[08:02] <sgrover> Your install is borked.. :)
[08:02] <redbeard1> w00t
[08:02] <redbeard1> yayyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:02] <sgrover> The title *should* say "Adept Manager"
[08:02] <redbeard1> nope it says Apet installer
[08:02] <redbeard1> not manager
[08:02] <sgrover> I've seen this on a few KDE installations - seems to happen if the online repositories aren't available or fail during download...
[08:03] <sgrover> hmm...
[08:03] <sgrover> That *could* be normal.  THought you were saying it said "title of the window"... :)
[08:03] <redbeard1> :D nahh
[08:03] <redbeard1> sorry
[08:03] <ol_dude67> redbeard1, did you download ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:03] <sgrover> k, scratch that theory (for now)
[08:03] <redbeard1> installed 6.06 from disk
[08:03] <redbeard1> and than d/lded kubuntu
[08:04] <ol_dude67> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:04] <redbeard1> ubuntu sorry
[08:04] <redbeard1> and then downloaded the KDE desktop
[08:04] <sgrover> ok, try this.  Close adept.  hit Alt-F2 for the run dialog.
[08:04] <ol_dude67> cant he go back to ubuntu and update then download?
[08:04] <sgrover> Type in "adept_manager" and see what happens.
[08:04] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yep.
[08:05] <sgrover> but we just did that from the command line.
[08:05] <redbeard1> alt + F2 didn't do anything
[08:05] <sgrover> redbeard1: are you on the KDE or gnome desktop right now?
[08:05] <redbeard1> KDE
[08:05] <sgrover> hmm.. alt-f2 is the RUN shortcut...
[08:05] <redbeard1> ahh hold on
[08:05] <redbeard1> heh office keyboard
[08:06] <ol_dude67> ok in kmenu do you have run command?
[08:06] <sgrover> ol_dude67: just what I was going to suggest.
[08:06] <redbeard1> ok got the run command now do what?
[08:06] <ol_dude67> ok now i will shut up and watch:D
[08:06] <sgrover> type in "adept_manager" (note the underscore)
[08:07] <redbeard1> could not run
[08:07] <redbeard1> yayy I don't have it
[08:07] <sgrover> Did it say "could not run", or "not found"
[08:07] <redbeard1> could not run
[08:07] <redbeard1> the specified command
[08:07] <sgrover> ok, just checked mine, that's normal for a missing command.
[08:07] <redbeard1> did you want me to include the quotes?
[08:08] <redbeard1> didin't work anyway lol
[08:08] <sgrover> That explains why you aren't seeing the same things I am.  I'm using adpet_manager.
[08:08] <ol_dude67> na anything in quotes means just to type that. lmao...usually
[08:09] <redbeard1> yeah I htought as much
[08:09] <sgrover> Ok, adept_installer is the "add/remove software" tool....
[08:09] <redbeard1> heh
[08:09] <redbeard1> so yep there's the problem I aint got it :D
[08:09] <redbeard1> yeppers
[08:09] <sgrover> So, in there, type "adept" into the search box.
[08:10] <sgrover> ignore that.
[08:10] <redbeard1> k
[08:10] <redbeard1> try adept_manager?
[08:10] <sgrover> the whole idea here is to add a repository.. :)  Click the "Edit Software Sources" button in the lower left.
[08:10] <sgrover> It opens the same window that we were trying to get to through adept manager... :)
[08:10] <sgrover> find it?
[08:11] <redbeard1> ummm
[08:11] <redbeard1> what window?
[08:11] <redbeard1> "edit software sources" where?
[08:11] <sgrover> In your adept installer window.  In the bottom left corner.
[08:11] <ol_dude67> sgrover, cant he do aptitude install adept?
[08:11] <redbeard1> in adept_installer?
[08:11] <redbeard1> b/c it aint there
[08:11] <sgrover> ol_dude67: yes.  But that isn't really the goal.
[08:11] <sgrover> He was asking if he could add a repository with adept...
[08:12] <sgrover> redbeard1: ok, install adept manager then.  (it's a better tool anyways.. )
[08:12] <ol_dude67> ok sorry if im bugging you, im just asking for my own personal questions.
[08:12] <sgrover> ol_dude67: no worries.  When I'm here to help, questions are fine.. :)
[08:12] <redbeard1> k would that be "sudo apt-get install adept_manager"?
[08:13] <sgrover> (actually, I'm waiting for a response to a question on the drupal chanelles).
[08:13] <ol_dude67> sgrover,  what is drupal?
[08:13] <ol_dude67> i know ot but ok.
[08:13] <sgrover> redbeard1: you could do that yes.  Or you can use the adept installer, search for adpet, then add the check mark beside adept manager...
[08:14] <sgrover> ol_dude67: it's a content management system.  I'm a web developer...
[08:14] <redbeard1> Konsole couldn't find it when I tried it
[08:14] <ol_dude67> ah ok, i was just wondering i havent heard of it till now. ...
[08:14] <sgrover> it is OT, and maybe a little indepth  for this room... :)
[08:15] <redbeard1> bah
[08:15] <sgrover> redbeard1: You were in konsole?  and typed in "sudo apt-get install adept_manager"?
[08:15] <redbeard1> only result it found was it'sef
[08:15] <sgrover> one sec, the package might have a different name.
[08:15] <redbeard1> uh huh
[08:15] <ol_dude67> sgrover, ah well my kids love the web should it be something i should learn about?
[08:16] <sgrover> I'll go check, in the mean time, try using the adept installer.
[08:16] <redbeard1> did that and failed as well
[08:16] <flipstar> what the error message ?
[08:16] <redbeard1> ol_dude67: if you want to start designing websites it would be uselul
[08:16] <redbeard1> nope jsut showed that I already had it
[08:16] <ol_dude67> ah not me the kids
[08:16] <redbeard1> and just had the name
[08:17] <ol_dude67> i could care less
[08:17] <sgrover> ok, the command line - "sudo apt-get install adept-manager" (note the dash, not the underscore)
[08:17] <redbeard1> lol
[08:17] <redbeard1> ahh I'll try the dash
[08:17] <redbeard1> brb
[08:17] <redbeard1> cound't find
[08:17] <sgrover> ol_dude67: if you want to make web pages, there are decent tools out there where you don't need to know too many of the details (html, css, etc.)
[08:18] <redbeard1> couldn't*
[08:18] <sgrover> k, you have different repositories then...
[08:18] <redbeard1> w00t I fail again
[08:18] <redbeard1> hahahaha
[08:18] <redbeard1> Journey into madness with me
[08:18] <sgrover> I think that might be typical of a Ubuntu install versus a Kubuntu install.
[08:18] <redbeard1> it's FUN
[08:18] <ol_dude67> sgrover, are you on here often?
[08:18] <flipstar> redbeard1: could you pastebin your sources.list ?
[08:18] <sgrover> ol_dude67: rarely... :)
[08:18] <flipstar> you might have to edit them
[08:18] <redbeard1> pastebin? what?
[08:18] <flipstar> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:19] <ol_dude67> sgrover, p.m.?
[08:19] <redbeard1> umm ok I"ll give that a shot
[08:19] <sgrover> flipstar: this is the whole idea... :)  He asked if he could use Adept to add a repository.
[08:19] <sgrover> ol_dude67: sure.
[08:19] <flipstar> yes he still can manually do that
[08:19] <redbeard1> actually hold on a min.
[08:19] <flipstar> sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <redbeard1> if both Synaptic and Adept_manager use the same repos.. than I don't really need to add them to adept_installer do I?
[08:20] <Tm_T> no
[08:20] <redbeard1> wow
[08:20] <flipstar> i thought you dont even have adept_manager ?
[08:20] <redbeard1> I don't
[08:21] <redbeard1> but I do have Synaptic
[08:22] <redbeard1> Adept is my "add/remove" program
[08:22] <flipstar> from synaptic you also can edit the sources..dont you ?
[08:23] <sgrover> flipstar: I agree, just editing the sources.list file is easy.  But (no offense redbeard1) he's a newbie, so I didn't want to take him to the command line if possible.. :)
[08:23] <redbeard1> none taken
[08:23] <redbeard1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53942/
[08:23] <flipstar> right that would be the last possibility
[08:23] <redbeard1> and there's the pastebin
[08:24] <flipstar> hm seems okay..wired that you cant install adept..
[08:24] <flipstar> you have kubuntu gutsy ?
[08:24] <redbeard1> tha'ts what I was thinking
[08:24] <redbeard1> nuh uh
[08:25] <redbeard1> ubuntu 6.06 OS
[08:25] <sgrover> crap - thar's the problem... he's using a "dapper" sources.list...
[08:25] <redbeard1> with KDE desktop
[08:25] <sgrover> the code there is a little older...
[08:25] <sgrover> adept-manager is a little newer than that...
[08:25] <redbeard1> so I'm gonna just hafta wait till the Kubuntu 7.10 disks arrive?
[08:25] <sgrover> redbeard1: no.
[08:26] <sgrover> you can go download the ISO and burn a CD.  Or there are ways to upgrade.
[08:26] <sgrover> I don't personally recommend an upgrade.
[08:26] <redbeard1> if I had any more blank CDs left lol
[08:26] <sgrover> They tend to be a little flakey, but the few times I've tried it things worked fine.
[08:26] <sgrover> redbeard1: do you have spare room on your drive?
[08:26] <redbeard1> yeah
[08:27] <flipstar> he could also use update-manager if it is present in dapper..
[08:27] <sgrover> You can sometimes do an install from an existing installation.  But it's not a newbie process.. :)
[08:27] <redbeard1> figgers
[08:27] <redbeard1> lol
[08:27] <sheggah7> hello all..
[08:28] <flipstar> !hi
[08:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:28] <redbeard1> yeah I had d/lded it b4 and tried burning it but it didn't work and I had to re-re-reformat and get it back up
[08:28] <sheggah7> i'm trying to install greenos-desktop using Adept Manager.. but I get an error: "BREAK"
[08:28] <redbeard1> hi sheggah
[08:28] <sheggah7> does this mean that greenos-desktop is going to one of the packages?
[08:29] <sgrover> redbeard1:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[08:29] <sheggah7> i thought gOS is built on Ubuntu... so everything should work fine.
[08:29] <flipstar> sgrover: he has dapper..
[08:29] <redbeard1> I love howtogeek he's cool
[08:29] <sgrover> redbeard1: I find that the Kubuntu Alternate install disk is more stable...
[08:30] <sgrover> flipstar: oops.. I did a search for dapper to gutsy.. missed the title on that page.
[08:30] <flipstar> sheggah7: i dont have an greenos-desktop packet in my kubuntu..
[08:30] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:31] <sheggah7> flipstar: yes.. but I would like to have it... how do I solve the "break" problem?
[08:31] <sgrover> Hmm.. in *theory* he should be able to just replace "dapper" with "gutsy" in his sources.list, update and upgrade.  But I'm almost certain that would fail badly...
[08:31] <redbeard1> it seems to be working though...
[08:32] <Dresken> Does anyone have any idea how to make the title bars for windows appear when using Beryl?
[08:32] <flipstar> redbeard1: you using the update-manager now..?
[08:32] <redbeard1> it's running after running the command in the hotogeek article
[08:32] <redbeard1> (loading anyway)
[08:33] <flipstar> yep could take some time..
[08:33] <redbeard1> that and my PC is OLD
[08:33] <redbeard1> 600 Mhz and a bit of RAM
[08:33] <flipstar> it also depends on your network connection..
[08:33] <redbeard1> network is 100 Kbps
[08:33] <redbeard1> I got cable
[08:33] <sgrover> redbeard1: I wouldn't recommend following that guide.  You *should* upgrade to Edgy, then upgrade to Fiesty, then upgrade to Gutsy....
[08:33] <flipstar> nice me too :)
[08:34] <redbeard1> :D
[08:34] <sgrover> But that would likely break things in the process...
[08:34] <redbeard1> darned if I do darned if I don't?
[08:34] <redbeard1> lol
[08:34] <flipstar> what stands there? which version is availible ?
[08:35] <redbeard1> says my system is up to date...
[08:35] <flipstar> ouch
[08:35] <redbeard1> uh huh
[08:36] <redbeard1> brb
[08:36] <flipstar> redbeard1: did you pressed the check updates button ?
[08:38] <lrobison> Dresken:  what if you start beryl with --replace ?
[08:40] <Dresken> Irobison: How exactly do I do that?
[08:45] <sheggah7> how do I force apt-get to install all dependencies?
[08:46] <sheggah7> i get the error "<package-name> but it is not going to be installed" when trying to install enlightment*
[08:50] <sub[t]rnl> sheggah7➜ sudo apt-get -f install (will fix broken)
[08:56] <sheggah7> still giving me the "but it is not going to be installed" error
[08:56] <redbeard1> ok IN
[08:56] <redbeard1> IB*
[08:57] <redbeard1> flipstar: there is no check updates button
[08:57] <redbeard1> only a check button and yes I did
[08:59] <flipstar> hm you could try gksu "update-manager -c -d according to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[08:59] <redbeard1> k trying that
[09:01] <sheggah7> any ideas how to solve this? http://rafb.net/p/Xxxnwc28.html
[09:01] <redbeard1> w00t that seems to be giving me sumpin new
[09:01] <redbeard1> new distribution releassse '8.04' is available
[09:02] <flipstar> oh no thats hardy..
[09:02] <redbeard1> oops
[09:02] <flipstar> hm there is also a sencond method..mentioned here http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[09:02] <redbeard1> doens't seem to be a way to stop it...
[09:02] <redbeard1> doesn't*
[09:03] <redbeard1> it's upgrading
[09:03] <redbeard1> lol
[09:03] <flipstar> what ?
[09:03] <redbeard1> I clicked on update and it's installing and updating it
[09:03] <flipstar> omg
[09:04] <flipstar> just cances it..it is still downloading..
[09:04] <flipstar> *cancel
[09:04] <redbeard1> k canceled lol
[09:05] <redbeard1> sorry it's 4:05 here and I"m tired but forcing myself to stay awake
[09:05] <flipstar> ohoh
[09:06] <redbeard1> so I"m trying to upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[09:06] <flipstar> better upgrade to edgy first
[09:07] <redbeard1> k
[09:08] <redbeard1> running gksu “update-manager -c ”
[09:09] <redbeard1> seeing if that does anything
[09:10] <redbeard1> nope the icon hops for a bit and than goes away...
[09:12] <flipstar> did you typed it with the quotation?
[09:12] <redbeard1> aye
[09:12] <redbeard1> but I"m gonna try
[09:12] <redbeard1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052
[09:12] <redbeard1> what this site says
[09:12] <redbeard1> it's the "official" way to do it
[09:13] <flipstar> yes..it is also describet here http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html#Method%202 under method 2 :)
[09:13] <redbeard1> and it seems to be working VERY well lol
[09:14] <redbeard1> oh bother...
[09:15] <redbeard1> gksudo "update-manager -c -d" had me do that again (not stable yet)
[09:16] <flipstar> yes..the -d stands for devel release
[09:17] <redbeard1> ahhh ok
[09:18] <redbeard1> yeah that'd be VERY bad for me lol
[09:18] <redbeard1> ok method b seems to be working
[09:18] <redbeard1> 'course I said that b4...
[09:19] <flipstar> guess the update will take a loooong time..
[09:20] <redbeard1> so far there's 2 conflicts should I be worried?
[09:20] <flipstar> what kind of conflicts ?
[09:20] <redbeard1> resolving dependencies
[09:21] <redbeard1> now 5
[09:21] <flipstar> hm
[09:22] <redbeard1> that's what I said.... only a bit more colorfully
[09:24] <redbeard1> I really don't wanna hafta reformat again....
[09:25] <flipstar> that would be more than worst case
[09:25] <redbeard1> lol
[09:25] <redbeard1> it says no solution found in allotted time
[09:25] <redbeard1> try harder?
[09:25] <redbeard1> and I said yes
[09:26] <redbeard1> does "uncommenting a source" do anything?
[09:27] <flipstar> yes of course..it makes the installer not read the uncommented source
[09:27] <redbeard1> ....
[09:27] <redbeard1> k
[09:27] <redbeard1> what does that mean?
[09:27] <redbeard1> and how do I go about uncommenting a source?
[09:28] <flipstar> if you uncomment e.g. the cd source it wont install from cd..
[09:28] <flipstar> you have to edit sources.list
[09:28] <flipstar> which source you would like to uncomment ?
[09:28] <redbeard1> uhhh
[09:29] <redbeard1> effed if I know?
[09:29] <xxBasYxx> I have 2 panels -> top and bottom, and i want autohide only for top panel is it possible?
[09:29] <redbeard1> it says on the site:You might also want to uncomment all sources ( for in case you'll need universe later )
[09:30] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: i guess not but did you try to change it for each ?
[09:31] <flipstar> redbeard1: hm i dont think this is necessary
[09:32] <redbeard1> k
[09:32] <fulat2k> hi folks, anyone here using iwl3945 module?
[09:32] <xxBasYxx> problem is that when i open properties of second (top) panel, it opens properies only for bottom one
[09:32] <fulat2k> having problems re-establishing wifi connection after system standby
[09:32] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: yes i think it uses the same config file..
[09:33] <xxBasYxx> :(
[09:33] <xxBasYxx> flipstar: where is that  config file?
[09:33] <redbeard1> fulat2k: I've seen that issue on some wireless cards do you have it set for power save?
[09:34] <redbeard1> (of course hen I encountered it it was a driver issue in a windows environment)
[09:34] <redbeard1> it might be the same but I'm a newbie at linux altogether
[09:36] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/68926
[09:36] <fulat2k> redbeard1: that's something i haven't checked :)  thanks for the tip
[09:37] <redbeard1> np d00d, I"m not sure as far as data structure goes, but I think that OS is below drivers
[09:37] <redbeard1> so that's where I would start
[09:37] <redbeard1> on the OSI model that is
[09:42] <flipstar> xxBasYxx: did this helps ?
[09:44] <homoludens> hi everyone: i'm trying to fix a problem with standby/hibernation on my panasonic laptop. i posted already on the kubuntu forum, but didn't get a response; couldn't really find anything applicable online either. could someone at least give me a clue on how to proceed?
[09:44] <homoludens> what kind of processes are responsible for standby/hibernation?
[09:45] <redbeard1> system settings: display: power mode
[09:46] <redbeard1> err power saving
[09:47] <homoludens> redbeard1: that dialogue has only one setting on my system, i.e. after how many minutes to switch of the monitor ...
[09:48] <redbeard1> hmmm
[09:49] <redbeard1> not entirely sure sorry
[09:49] <redbeard1> I"m a newbie with linux myself
[09:49] <redbeard1> and I"m on a desktop
[09:50] <redbeard1> I do remember removing some sort of battery icon (power program) that I wouldn't use
[09:50] <redbeard1> woudl that be it?
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> yeah, there's a menu attached to the battery icon when you right-click
[09:51] <SlimeyPete> not sure exactly what process it activates though
[09:51] <flipstar> Sometimes hibernation in Ubuntu doesn't work with certain hardware ..
[09:51] <redbeard1> was it alt+esc to bring up the process manager window?
[09:51] <flipstar> right redbeard1
[09:52] <redbeard1> k so bring that up and than click on the battery icon and find out what process appears?
[09:52] <redbeard1> would that work?
[09:53] <redbeard1> btw I"m finally downloading the edgy updates now
[09:53] <redbeard1> adept had a caution symbol I hadn't noticed
[09:53] <redbeard1> 256 packages I think it is lol
[09:54] <flipstar> just ignore that icon in the kicker
[09:54] <homoludens> guys, do your power savings menus have more options? just curious whether my laptop is incomptible with a certain component.
[09:54] <homoludens> ... i suppose no one is using a panasonic toughbook here?!  :-/
[09:54] <redbeard1> not on a laptop sorry bro
[09:54] <redbeard1> nope OLD desktop
[09:54] <redbeard1> 600 Mhz
[09:55] <redbeard1> CPU
[09:55] <homoludens> that's not so bad ... ! compared to the c64 i used to owe ... :D
[09:55] <homoludens> good games though ;)
[09:55] <redbeard1> :D
[09:55] <redbeard1> yeah my old neighbor had one
[09:56] <redbeard1> we didn't get a PC until win 3.x came out I think it was
[09:56] <homoludens> i'm a little puzzled because i tried ubuntu, too, and hibernation worked fine there. so, is this a kde problem?
[09:56] <redbeard1> could be...
[09:57] <redbeard1> not sure though
[09:57] <homoludens> hm, ok ...
[09:58] <redbeard1> flipstar. it says 215 packages available lol
[09:58] <flipstar> thats great :)
[09:58] <redbeard1> 52% done w00t
[09:59] <lod_> hi, on my laptop sound is played both from speakers and headphones
[09:59] <redbeard1> loose adapter cord?
[09:59] <lod_> how to fix this?
[10:00] <redbeard1> new hadphones maybe?
[10:00] <lod_> why new?
[10:00] <redbeard1> have you tried making sure the headphones are plugged all the way in? (no offense meant)
[10:00] <lod_> yes, they are pluged in to the end
[10:01] <redbeard1> then perhaps the soft switch inside isn't tripping to shut off the ext. speakers
[10:01] <flipstar> lod you can configure audio settings via kmix
[10:01] <redbeard1> or that
[10:01] <lod_> i've tried
[10:01] <flipstar> just disable speaker and enable headphones or the other hand
[10:02] <flipstar> and it didnt work ?
[10:02] <lod_> no speaker tab
[10:02] <redbeard1> no speaker tab?
[10:02] <redbeard1> wow
[10:02] <lod_> no, every different way, or no sound or playing from the both
[10:03] <lod_> just front, headphones, PCM and others for the mic..
[10:03] <redbeard1> sounds like it doesn't even recognise the speakers at all
[10:03] <redbeard1> and thinks the speakers are headphones so it pushes sound out both
[10:04] <redbeard1> driver issue?
[10:04] <redbeard1> what kind of laptop is it?
[10:04] <lod_> i dnon't know
[10:04] <lod_> MSI Megabook ER710X
[10:04] <redbeard1> it doesn't say?
[10:04] <redbeard1> ahh ok
[10:07] <redbeard1> none of the sites I find with google are showing any sites in english or showing audio specs..
[10:07] <redbeard1> !sound
[10:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:08] <redbeard1> those might help
[10:08] <redbeard1> more so than I would
[10:08] <redbeard1> be able to
[10:14] <Dalai> hello everybody
[10:14] <redbeard1> !hi
[10:14] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:15] <powerpleb> hello, this place seems quiet right now
[10:15] <redbeard1> how's it goin dalai?
[10:15] <redbeard1> yep it is
[10:16] <Dalai> i was just wondering can you make kubuntu visually as good looking as ubuntu... I just remember seeing some computer running ubuntu and it was stuffed with eyecandy
[10:16] <redbeard1> *cricket cricket*
[10:16] <Dalai> im fine, you?
[10:16] <redbeard1> yeah you can get the GDM desktop on Kubuntu if you like
[10:16] <Dalai> is it so quiet in here red? :)
[10:16] <redbeard1> and not bad at all
[10:16] <redbeard1> it was till you guys showed up lol
[10:17] <JohnFlux> Dalai: kde4 has the cube etc effects
[10:17] <powerpleb> what's the GDM desktop? does it run with KDE?
[10:17] <Dalai> haha first comer says few words and then its all *cricket cricket* :P
[10:17] <redbeard1> lol
[10:17] <Dalai> hmm where can i get these
[10:17] <Dalai> still newbie to the whole linux system
[10:17] <redbeard1> I am too
[10:18] <redbeard1> GDM is Gnome and it comes with Ubuntu
[10:18] <Dalai> cool *high five*
[10:18] <redbeard1> ^5
[10:18] <powerpleb> oic
[10:18] <redbeard1> it's brown
[10:18] <homoludens> Dalai: did you google for kubuntu & eyecandy?
[10:18] <redbeard1> (by default)
[10:18] <powerpleb> brown can be OK
[10:18] <Dalai> i dont want... brown? :)
[10:19] <redbeard1> I"m not a big fan of brown myself
[10:19] <powerpleb> think rustic
[10:19] <Jucato> which kind of eyecandy are you looking for exactly?
[10:19] <homoludens> Dalai: perhaps checking the ubuntu forum / wiki might be useful too; at least you can find out what programs you should install.
[10:19] <Dalai> nope homoludens, should have started with that
[10:19] <Dalai> yeh ill do that
[10:19] <homoludens> i support kde blue too! :D
[10:19] <redbeard1> lol
[10:19] <redbeard1> !eyecandy
[10:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:19] <Dalai> otherwise ill be just spamming nonsense questions in here
[10:19] <redbeard1> or use the bot :D
[10:20] <redbeard1> he's a freindly fellow
[10:20] <homoludens> i'm pretty much a newbie too, but kde offers so much customization ops.
[10:20] <homoludens> ubuntu looks very nice & clean, though.
[10:20] <Dalai> sweet nice links
[10:20] <Jucato> !changetheme
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Jucato> !changethemes
[10:20] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[10:20] <redbeard1> yeah if you have a question about a certain topic
[10:20] <redbeard1> hit ! and than subject
[10:20] <flipstar> hm i dont like that little ubuntu style
[10:20] <redbeard1> !eycandy
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eycandy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <redbeard1> but make sure you spell it right
[10:21] <redbeard1> I think I need to restart bbl ppl hasta
[10:21] <flipstar> cya and gl :)
[10:33] <redbeard1> ok now this don't make sense...
[10:33] <redbeard1> when I try to do the update manager it says that there's another program running stopping me from running it
[10:33] <redbeard1> and I'm looking at my processes and don't see any...
[10:33] <powerpleb> i get that, is adept running?
[10:34] <redbeard1> nope
[10:35] <redbeard1> and I just shut down kicker too by accident lol
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | redbeard1
[10:36] <ubotu> redbeard1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> redbeard1: try that
[10:37] <redbeard1> would try to if kicker were up... how do I get that back up?
[10:37] <redbeard1> !kicker
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <flipstar> just run it from alt+f2
[10:37] <redbeard1> oh ok lol
[10:37] <redbeard1> duh
[10:38] <redbeard1> ty
[10:38] <flipstar> did you do this aptitude thing ?
[10:38] <redbeard1> trying now
[10:39] <redbeard1> running depmod...
[10:39] <redbeard1> doesn't seem to be doing anything else...
[10:41] <redbeard1> does it usually take awhile b4 it does anything?
[10:42] <flipstar> just wait anothe couple of secs..
[10:42] <greatauk> Hello everyone ... was wondering if anyone could help: After updating to Gutsy my gtk apps (like firefox) start looking old-school
[10:43] <flipstar> did you update to gutsy or to hardy ?
[10:43] <greatauk> gutsy
[10:43] <flipstar> hm
[10:43] <greatauk> I've got the qt-gtk stuff ... everything looked fine before ...
[10:43] <redbeard1> ah HA Adpet Manager finally came up
[10:44] <redbeard1> w00t
[10:44] <greatauk> changing "GTK Styles and Fonts" to "Use my KDE style in GTK apps" is turned on ...
[10:44] <SlimeyPete> greatauk: check that libgtk2.0-0 is installed
[10:45] <SlimeyPete> (just a thought)
[10:45] <greatauk> SlimeyPete, thanks, but it is installed
[10:46] <greatauk> although without dev and doc
[10:46] <SlimeyPete> shouldn't need those
[10:46] <flipstar> hm i had the same prob on hardy..
[10:46] <flipstar> fixed it with ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[10:46] <greatauk> flipstar, did you solve it?
[10:46] <trixon> Is it possible to get a Konsole i the lower part of konqueror, or is that opensuse specific?
[10:46] <Jucato> heh flipstar beat me to it...
[10:46] <Jucato> trixon: press F8
[10:48] <greatauk> gtkrc-2.0-kde already exists though ... I'll rename it and try it out
[10:48] <flipstar> if it exist it doesnt make sense..
[10:48] <trixon> Jucato thank you, I did not see any menu item for it
[10:49] <Jucato> trixon: it's in vanilla (pure) Konqueror, but Kubuntu removed it... long story
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> heh, I didn't know it did that.
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> Maybe I'll actually start using konqueror now
[10:50] <flipstar> greatauk: you get this wired look only on firefox ?
[10:50] <greatauk> hmm
[10:52] <flipstar> maybe you should just install firefox-themes-ubuntu ..
[10:52] <flipstar> you can set it in firefox under extras-->addons-->themes
[10:52] <greatauk> openoffice looks ok, that uses gtk, right? so maybe it's firefox specific
[10:53] <greatauk> flipstar, I'll try that
[10:53] <flipstar> there is a diffrence between gtk and gtk2 apps..
[10:53] <greatauk> I thought almost every app was using gtk2 these days? like firefox and openoffice? (I ment to say gtk2 when I said gtk earlier)
[10:54] <flipstar> there still gtk apps..dont know how its about openoffice
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> openoffice is gtk2
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> most gtk apps are gtk2.
[10:56] <frojnd> hello there
[10:56] <frojnd> I have som problems with sound
[10:57] <frojnd> I can't listen to mp3s... I think it's because of skype I used it yesterday. Restarting X ofcorse doesn't help. Any suggestions how can I get back my sound ?
[10:58] <greatauk> flipstar, changing themes doesn't work ... strange
[10:58] <flipstar> did you restart firefox ?
[10:58] <redbeard1> what would clicking on full upgrade do in Adept Manager?
[10:58] <flipstar> !mp3 | frojnd
[10:58] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <flipstar> update all availible packets
[10:59] <redbeard1> k I'll try that
[10:59] <greatauk> flipstar, yeah, I did, the buttons changed so I saw that the new theme was applied, but the ugly look prevailed
[11:00] <flipstar> was it ever like this greatauk ?
[11:00] <redbeard1> !ubuntu version
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu version - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <redbeard1> !version
[11:01] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[11:01] <greatauk> I'm looking at gimp now, and it is ugly as well
[11:01] <greatauk> so it's something to do with gtk2
[11:01] <redbeard1> weird it says I'm still running 6.06 dapper
[11:02] <redbeard1> I thought I was at Edgy now...
[11:02] <flipstar> oO
[11:02] <flipstar> you did followed the guide exactly ?
[11:02] <redbeard1> tried to
[11:05] <redbeard1> when trying to run software updates it says: Cannot install all available updates. Some updates require the removal of further software. Use the function "Mark All Upgrades" of the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely.
[11:05] <redbeard1> running sudo command....
[11:06] <flipstar> didnt you already did this with aptitude
[11:06] <redbeard1> aptitude?
[11:06] <sveri> hi, i even tried installing kde 4 under kubuntu 7.10 which worked fine, but now, when i want to login to kde4 i get a black screen and return to kdm, does somebody know where i can look for errors?
[11:06] <flipstar> right
[11:06] <redbeard1> is that the same as apt-get?
[11:06] <flipstar> like it was mentioned in the ubuntu-forum post.....
[11:07] <redbeard1> tried to but it didn't work
[11:07] <progreSSive> hi everybody
[11:07] <flipstar> sveri: do you have compiz enabled when login ?
[11:07] <progreSSive> does anybody know a "perl" room??
[11:07] <n1tro> damn, just installed kubuntu, i'm so messed up :D
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> sveri: best to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> progreSSive: ##perl?
[11:07] <flipstar> #Perl
[11:08] <sveri> flipstar: i dont even have compiz installed
[11:08] <SlimeyPete> progreSSive: sorry #perl
[11:08] <flipstar> what happend n1tro ?
[11:08] <sveri> SlimeyPete: thx for the hint, i'll try there too
[11:08] <progreSSive> SlimeyPete, thanks :)
[11:08] <n1tro> flipstar:  oh nothing special, just so much to do that don't know where to start ^^
[11:08] <flipstar> sveri: hm try to login in tt1 and just run X .. to see if it is an graphical error..
[11:09] <flipstar> n1tro: lol
[11:09] <flipstar> you changed from windows or another linux distri ?
[11:09] <n1tro> windows :)
[11:09] <sveri> flipstar: ok, i'll be right back, i hope :-)
[11:09] <redbeard1> I do'nt get it...
[11:09] <redbeard1> don't*
[11:10] <flipstar> redbeard1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227052 last point
[11:10] <redbeard1> I opened synaptic and marked all upgrades and nothing is marked....
[11:10] <SlimeyPete> did you do an update first, redbeard1 ?
[11:10] <SlimeyPete> you have to update your package lists.
[11:11] <flipstar> did X start ?
[11:11] <sveri> flipstar: login to tty works fine
[11:11] <flipstar> great
[11:11] <redbeard1> oh ok
[11:11] <redbeard1> hold on
[11:11] <flipstar> did X start ?
[11:11] <cpk1> is there a way to figure out which client on my dhcp server is using the most bandwidth?
[11:12] <n1tro> btw, i tought i'm gonna download beryl, i'm not gonna ask any help. just asking if i should even try?
[11:12] <flipstar> !beryl | n1tro
[11:12] <ubotu> n1tro: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[11:12] <n1tro> :O
[11:12] <n1tro> !compiz
[11:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:13] <redbeard1> yeah reloaded and tried marking again still didn't work
[11:14] <flipstar> hm try sudo apt-get check
[11:15] <redbeard1> trying sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:15] <redbeard1> and getting 5 conflicts thus far
[11:15] <flipstar> i think these are packages that aint supportet anymore..
[11:16] <redbeard1> gr8
[11:16] <redbeard1> so how do I get rid of them?
[11:16] <redbeard1> lol
[11:16] <flipstar> what said sudo apt-get check ?
[11:16] <redbeard1> havn'et run it yet
[11:16] <redbeard1> haven't*
[11:16] <redbeard1> waiting for other command to terminate
[11:20] <redbeard1> reading package list and building dependency tree is done
[11:21] <redbeard1> that's all that did
[11:21] <flipstar> so no errors ?
[11:21] <redbeard1> nope but I just found out where I missed 2 dappers
[11:21] <redbeard1> correcting
[11:23] <greatauk> you guys know what happens if I remove .gtkrc2.0?
[11:23] <redbeard1> w00t that's what it was I missed 4 dappers
[11:24] <Lynoure> greatauk: probably defaults to something :)
[11:24] <Lynoure> greatauk: when unsure, just move it first
[11:24] <greatauk> Lynoure, erm yeah ... good idea
[11:25] <redbeard1> SWEET it worked
[11:25] <redbeard1> you roxor flipstar
[11:27] <redbeard1> wow this is going to take awhile....
[11:28] <lupul> can anyone tell how do i set the clock no not change itself?
[11:28] <lupul> *to not
[11:28] <redbeard1> what do you mean lupul?
[11:29] <redbeard1> !clock
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <lupul> i set it to 13:28. i reboot and then it's 15:28
[11:29] <lupul> everytime
[11:29] <redbeard1> your CMOS battery might need replaced
[11:29] <redbeard1> sounds like your internal clock is messing up
[11:29] <lupul> no
[11:30] <flipstar> lupul: do you have windows on another partition ?
[11:30] <lupul> on windows it's ok.  bios it's ok. only linux changes it
[11:30] <redbeard1> hmm weird than
[11:30] <flipstar> ah thats becourse windows changed the time in bios
[11:30] <lupul> i knoe
[11:30] <lupul> *w
[11:30] <vege> hi
[11:30] <redbeard1> hi
[11:31] <vege> I wonder if someone has a few minutes to help me with something?
[11:31] <flipstar> lupul: try sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --adjust
[11:31] <lupul> ok but how do i stop that? and why windows shows the correct hour and linux doesn't?
[11:31] <redbeard1> with what vege?
[11:31] <vege> I am very new
[11:31] <redbeard1> I am too lol
[11:32] <vege> hehe
[11:32] <vege> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681284
[11:32] <vege> that's a thread describing my problem
[11:32] <vege> maybe I should go to Kubuntu forum
[11:33] <Lynoure> vege: maybe you should give one line summary here?
[11:33] <vege> heh ok
[11:33] <vege> I want to enable my gfx 3d
[11:33] <vege> but get an error message
[11:33] <vege> The software source for the package
[11:33] <vege> nvidia-glx-new
[11:33] <vege> is not enabled.
[11:34] <vege> I have been searching for answer
[11:34] <redbeard1> did you add other repos like that guy suggested? and tried other drivers?
[11:35] <Lynoure> vege: and you have all the relevant repositories uncommented?
[11:35] <flipstar> it was 19 minutes ago did you read the post ?
[11:35] <vege> looking now
[11:36] <vege> I'm looking at software sources but
[11:36] <vege> not sure what to do
[11:36] <homoludens> hi everone: i'm having problems opening .tar.bz2 files. could someone help me out?
[11:36] <vege> if I am too nub for this channel I understand
[11:36] <Lynoure> homoludens: what kind of problem?
[11:36] <redbeard1> no your not
[11:37] <homoludens> the files in question are dictionaries for stardict: http://stardict.sourceforge.net
[11:37] <homoludens> for example: http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_fr.php
[11:37] <redbeard1> I"d be glad to help if I had any better ideas
[11:37] <redbeard1> but I don't
[11:37] <flipstar> homoludens: just typ tar -xf <filename>
[11:37] <homoludens> i followed the advice on :http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries.php
[11:37] <flipstar> or use ark oder file-roller
[11:37] <vege> how do I enable additional repositories?
[11:37] <homoludens> yeah, but i won't open it keeps telling me that it's not a bzip file ... altough it's supposed to be!
[11:37] <jeremiah_> hi everyone!
[11:38] <redbeard1> what package manager are you using?
[11:38] <vege> hello
[11:38] <homoludens> also tried buzip2, but doesn't work either ...
[11:38] <redbeard1> !hi
[11:38] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:38] <flipstar> just try an file <packagename>
[11:38] <vege> adept
[11:38] <flipstar> maybe its corrrupt
[11:38] <homoludens> the files won't open in ark either.
[11:38] <jeremiah_> does the kubuntu dvd gutsy gibbon already have java jre 5?
[11:38] <redbeard1> poop I don't have it memorised
[11:38] <homoludens> i downloaded the files previously under windows, and they were alrigh tthere.
[11:38] <redbeard1> and I can't open it while term is running
[11:39] <homoludens> could someone give it a try to see whether they un-tar alright? any dictionary file would be fine.
[11:39] <vege> *shrugs* lol
[11:39] <redbeard1> Hey flipstar how do you add repos to adept again?
[11:39] <flipstar> homoludens: maybe you should try do redownload
[11:39] <jeremiah_> i dont know or i dont see the diff. between the livecd and the dvd
[11:39] <jeremiah_> does the kubuntu dvd gutsy gibbon already have java jre 5?
[11:40] <flipstar> redbeard1: adept-->edit sources or similar
[11:40] <redbeard1> no clue jeremiah I"m working on getting edgy atm
[11:40] <flipstar> jeremiah_: guess it is in the repos
[11:41] <vege> manage repositories?
[11:41] <flipstar> im working at hardy
[11:41] <redbeard1> yep that one
[11:41] <vege> I have 5 tabs
[11:41] <redbeard1> ok
[11:41] <redbeard1> what do they say?
[11:41] <vege> kubuntu s/w
[11:41] <vege> 3rd party s/w
[11:41] <vege> updates
[11:42] <vege> authentication
[11:42] <vege> Stats
[11:42] <jeremiah_> ok
[11:42] <redbeard1> anything that says add repositories?
[11:42] <vege> I read somewhere someone said to enable universe, multiverse etc
[11:42] <redbeard1> aye
[11:43] <vege> all fall under Ku S/w
[11:43] <redbeard1> I"m running on an older version so I got no clue what your looking at...
[11:43] <vege> lol
[11:44] <flipstar> just make check restricted vege
[11:44] <vege> nothing says add repos
[11:44] <redbeard1> I"m just giving best guesses atm
[11:44] <vege> check restricted?\
[11:44] <flipstar> due nvidia is closed source you have to enable restricted right
[11:44] <vege> yes
[11:44] <redbeard1> oh yeah that's right
[11:44] <homoludens> flipstar: yeah, i think re-downloading the files worked. strange though ... :-/
[11:45] <redbeard1> enabled restricted
[11:45] <vege> ok
[11:45] <homoludens> flipstar: thanks.
[11:45] <vege> that's all?
[11:45] <redbeard1> err enable
[11:45] <flipstar> it probably was just a courrupt file :)
[11:45] <redbeard1> try it and see if it works lol
[11:45] <flipstar> yes vege now update und retry
[11:46] <redbeard1> 2h 9 minutes
[11:46] <redbeard1> man alive it's huge
[11:46] <frojnd> on the ati/amd site is a linux driver for my graphic card mobility x1400, how can I install I can't find any instructions on their site. An is there a packge for installing this driver ?
[11:46] <vege> it wants to download an update when I closed after checking restricted
[11:46] <redbeard1> good do it
[11:46] <david__> hello all. is there a way to remove ALL statusbars in konqueror? i removed one with ViewT0_ShowStatusBar=false in profiles/webbrowsing!
[11:46] <flipstar> !ati | frojnd
[11:46] <ubotu> frojnd: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:47] <vege> kk brb
[11:47] <redbeard1> lol
[11:47] <flipstar> david__: wow why dont you try konqueror itself ?
[11:48] <flipstar> under settings->toolbar
[11:48] <vege> it's now greyed out the nvidia driver in the restricted driver section
[11:48] <redbeard1> is there a check in the box beside it?
[11:49] <vege> oops nope, I didn't go to administrator mode  =P
[11:49] <flipstar> aight
[11:49] <redbeard1> :D
[11:49] <vege> something is happening
[11:49] <redbeard1> w00t
[11:50] <vege> is downloading
[11:50] <vege> adept batch
[11:50] <vege> where you from redbeard?
[11:50] <redbeard1> Ohio, yourself?
[11:51] <vege> Sydney, Australia
[11:51] <redbeard1> cool
[11:51] <vege> hot
[11:51] <vege> we're in Summer lol
[11:51] <redbeard1> no it's cool here
[11:51] <redbeard1> :P
[11:51] <vege> woot, driver enabled >  needs restart
[11:52] <redbeard1> sweet
[11:52] <vege> be back soon
[11:52] <redbeard1> k
[11:52] <vege> thnx to all for help
[11:52] <redbeard1> np
[11:52] <vege> free porn for everyone
[11:52] <redbeard1> w00t
[11:52] <vege> lol
[11:52] <redbeard1> heh anyone ever seen that vid?
[11:52] <vege> there's more than one porn vid
[11:52] <redbeard1> (WoW char.s singing about the internet is for porn)?
[11:52] <vege> ; )
[11:53] <vege> let's keep it kleen
[11:53] <vege> =)
[11:53] <redbeard1> I am
[11:53] <redbeard1> lol
[11:53] <vege> be back shortly
[11:53] <redbeard1> just saying...
[11:53] <redbeard1> hasta
[11:54] <redbeard1> 7AM
[11:54] <redbeard1> and this won't be done for another 2 hours
[11:57] <jeremiah_> is there an application for kubuntu that i can use to make cd labels? or a counterpart of MS Publisher
[11:57] <vege> yay it worked thanks champions
[11:58] <vege> now to rest of ET install
[11:58] <jeremiah_> is there an application for kubuntu that i can use to make cd labels? or a counterpart of MS Publisher
[11:58] <flipstar> cdlabelgen or disc-cover
[11:59] <Lynoure> jeremiah_: glabels in not for kubuntu, but it's good
[11:59] <flipstar> jeremiah_: disc-cover or cdlabelgen
[11:59] <vege> you're very knowledgeable flipstar
[11:59] <jeremiah_> really?how do iget it?
[11:59] <flipstar> just use adept and search for it
[11:59] <flipstar> use use the konsole with sudo apt-get install cdlabelgen
[11:59] <Lynoure> jeremiah_: sudo aptitude install glabels
[12:00] <jeremiah_> thnk uvery much!\
[12:00] <flipstar> vege: no i just used apt-cache search :)
[12:01] <jeremiah_> but im using kubuntu gutsy
[12:01] <flipstar> doesnt matter
[12:02] <vege> but you knew how to use apt-cache search lol
[12:03] <flipstar> hm thats no art
[12:04] <redbeard1> it is if your me
[12:04] <redbeard1> what is it?
[12:05] <jeremiah_> flipstar do you know how to install a printer pixma ip1880?
[12:07] <redbeard1> I"M bored I"m gonna go play a game....
[12:09] <jeremiah_> flipstar do you know how to install a printer pixma ip1880?
[12:10] <flipstar> there is a nice printer wizard on kde
[12:10] <flipstar> did you tried ?
[12:12] <jeremiah_> yeah i tried but no luck
[12:12] <jeremiah_> no driver for pixma 1880
[12:13] <flipstar> hm did you checked manufactors website for drivers ?
[12:14] <jeremiah_> hehe nope
[12:15] <vege> OK I'm about to try to install enemy territory
[12:15] <david__> flipstar: its not in the toolbar menu
[12:15] <vege> use Konsole or Kate?
[12:16] <n1tro> hey is there a way to get access to konsole relatively easily?
[12:16] <n1tro> like bind a key for it or something
[12:16] <flipstar> you can set one..
[12:16] <n1tro> okay thanks :))
[12:17] <flipstar> david__: you wanted to disable all toolbars right ?
[12:17] <flipstar> this is possible from there..(konqueror-->setting-->toobar)
[12:17] <flipstar> i just tested
[12:18] <david__> flipstar: i want to disable the Statusbar
[12:18] <vege> how do I execute this file? >>>
[12:18] <vege> et-linux-2.60.x86.zip
[12:19] <flipstar> you have to unzip first
[12:19] <flipstar> david__: oh
[12:19] <david__> flipstar: yeah
[12:19] <david__> flipstar: viewT0_showstatusbar=false in profiles/webbrowsing does it for the first tab.
[12:19] <vege> now it's a file
[12:20] <vege> et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[12:20] <Lynoure> n1tro: there is yakuake
[12:20] <niall_> sudo ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[12:20] <niall_> should do it
[12:20] <n1tro> yo Lynoure!
[12:21] <n1tro> what's that?
[12:21] <n1tro> omfg i love you thanks! :D<3
[12:21] <n1tro> it's amazing
[12:22] <vege> command not found
[12:22] <niall_> you need to be in the same directory as the file
[12:22] <Lynoure> n1tro: :)
[12:22] <niall_> clearly
[12:22] <vege> not sure what you mean
[12:22] <Lynoure> n1tro: that was the fastest   puzzlement --> love  I have ever seen :)
[12:22] <niall_> well where it is?
[12:22] <vege> put file in home?
[12:22] <niall_> *is it
[12:22] <vege> is on desktop
[12:23] <niall_> well do cd ~/Desktop
[12:23] <niall_> then do it
[12:23] <vege> thnx
[12:23] <n1tro> heh^^
[12:23] <niall_> the terminal starts in your home folder by default, so if you're wanting to do things to files which aren't in there you gotta navigate to them, or but the location in front of the file name
[12:24] <vege> didn't like that command either
[12:24] <niall_> ok
[12:24] <niall_> first off
[12:25] <niall_> right click the file, goto permissions, and make sure you've got the executable box ticked
[12:25] <vege> it was unchecked, now it is
[12:25] <vege> will try again
[12:25] <niall_> ok
[12:26] <vege> working
[12:26] <niall_> awesome
[12:27] <niall_> that's pretty much how you install all id linux games
[12:28] <vege> error
[12:28] <niall_> ERROR
[12:29] <vege> error while loading shared libraries
[12:29] <niall_> unlucky
[12:29] <vege> libgtk-1.2.so.0 cannot open
[12:30] <niall_> well if you're on KDE you probably don't have that
[12:30] <vege> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246
[12:30] <vege> that's a guide to setup
[12:30] <vege> am I asking too much?
[12:30] <vege> my first day here
[12:31] <niall_> no
[12:31]  * Dr_willis missed the question :)
[12:31] <vege> I don't want to be annoying
[12:31] <niall_> it's not like I work here or anything ;p
[12:31] <vege> lol
[12:31] <niall_> you should download that library then
[12:31] <niall_> try
[12:31] <vege> Dr Willis am trying to install this software
[12:31] <niall_> sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2
[12:31] <vege> thnx niall
[12:32] <Dr_willis> instlling some gnome stuff?
[12:32] <vege> use adept to do this?
[12:32] <niall_> he's installing Enemy Territory
[12:32] <niall_> but it complained that it needed that library
[12:32] <niall_> it must have a GTK GUI installer or something
[12:32] <Dr_willis> I aint played that in years. :)
[12:32] <Dr_willis> Yes i think it does.
[12:32] <niall_> all the other id games just have text based installers
[12:32] <vege> ET is still very popular
[12:32] <flipstar> it is an online game only or ?
[12:32] <Strangework> Hm! I should re-download ET!
[12:33] <Dr_willis> I play RTCW:ET every so often.
[12:33] <vege> it is multiplayer
[12:33] <Strangework> I had problems with my old computer
[12:33] <vege> that's the game
[12:33] <niall_> you should get ETQW ;p
[12:33] <Strangework> but it is dead now
[12:33] <vege> QW I don't like
[12:33] <niall_> why not?
[12:33] <Strangework> My friend has that, it looks quite captivating!
[12:33] <vege> there's so many reasons
[12:33] <niall_> lol
[12:33] <niall_> I think it's pretty good
[12:34] <vege> we have a hundred or so people I play ET RTCW every day lol
[12:34] <niall_> W:ET ;p
[12:34] <vege> do I use Adpet to find that file?
[12:34] <Dr_willis> Been playing The Valve TeamFortress lately :)
[12:34] <vege> I've never looked for a file before
[12:34] <Dr_willis> !find  libgtk
[12:34] <ubotu> Found: libgtk-directfb-2.0-0, libgtk-directfb-2.0-dev, libgtk2-perl, libgtk2-perl-doc, libgtk2.0-0 (and 114 others)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> use its serach feature.
[12:35] <niall_> sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[12:35] <niall_> would do
[12:35] <Dr_willis> !find  libgtk-1.2
[12:35] <ubotu> Package/file libgtk-1.2 does not exist in gutsy
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Yea - 1.2 may not even be around :)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> and it seems its not
[12:35] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install   libgtk2.0-0
[12:35] <niall_> it's libgtk1.2
[12:35] <niall_> turns out
[12:36] <Strangework> eh, newer version shouldn't hurt
[12:36] <vege> should I put the exe file into a specific directory?
[12:36] <niall_> no
[12:36] <niall_> where it is really doesn't make any difference
[12:37] <vege> so I type sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 in the search window in Adept?
[12:37] <niall_> no
[12:37] <niall_> you type that into a terminal
[12:37] <vege> I only installed this OS yesterday
[12:37] <niall_> ;p
[12:37] <vege> yep I thought so lol
[12:38] <niall_> or you could type libgtk into the search thing in adept, find it on the list and right click it and goto install
[12:38] <g2g591> vege: searching for and instlalling libgtk2 in adept would do the same thing
[12:38] <niall_> but that's a lot more effort ;o
[12:39] <vege> now back to install
[12:39] <niall_> if it has a GUI you should just be able to click on it really
[12:39] <vege> libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[12:39] <vege> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:39] <niall_> you probably have to get 1.2 then
[12:39] <vege> although the console seemed to work
[12:39] <flipstar> try libgtk2.0-0-dev
[12:39] <vege> it seems I already had it
[12:39] <niall_> lol
[12:40] <niall_> try just opening the installer normally, rather than at command line
[12:40] <Dr_willis> this is ET  You are trying to install? not RTCW:ET ? or am i confused. :)
[12:40] <vege> yes I did and same message
[12:40] <flipstar> with 1.2 ?
[12:40] <niall_> you should get 1.2 then
[12:41] <niall_> sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[12:41] <niall_> it must require it or something
[12:41] <vege> it's opening kate now
[12:41] <Dr_willis> libgtk1.2-common - Common files for the GTK+ library
[12:41] <Dr_willis> libgtk1.2 - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X
[12:42] <niall_> kate is a text editor
[12:42] <niall_> why you opening that?
[12:42] <flipstar> btw kate is damn nice :=)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Becuse the file is not set executable - would be my guess
[12:42] <vege> I left the zip file zipped and clicked the exe from within that
[12:42] <vege> it opened kate not me
[12:42] <niall_> Dr_willis: I already made him do that
[12:42] <vege> righto 2 secs
[12:43] <Dr_willis> within the zip...  Hmm.. dont think ya want to do it that way
[12:43] <vege> ok, here's the gui message I get
[12:44] <rip_curl> hi guys!
[12:44] <vege> You are running a x86 machine with glib-2.1 OS : Debian GNU/Linux
[12:44] <vege> above that it says >>
[12:45] <flipstar> hi rip_curl :)
[12:45] <niall_> vege: what are you doing? ;]
[12:46] <vege>  .setup6859: error re that file
[12:46] <vege> hmmmm
[12:46] <niall_> right ok
[12:46] <vege> I think it says something about that error in the setup thread
[12:46] <vege> br
[12:46] <vege> brb
[12:47] <niall_> vege: so what have you done so far?
[12:47] <vege> enabled the exe
[12:47] <vege> permission
[12:47] <flipstar> exe..?
[12:47] <flipstar> isnt it a .run package ?
[12:47] <vege> yes it is
[12:47] <flipstar> okay..
[12:47] <rip_curl> look guys, help plese
[12:48] <rip_curl> need to connect to remote server via ssh with private key
[12:48] <rip_curl> what is shell command\
[12:48] <flipstar> then just type sudo $HOME/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[12:49] <Dr_willis> He could install the game as a user.  no need for sudo. :) thats now ive installed it in the past.
[12:49] <vege> ok flip
[12:50] <Dr_willis> ssh ip.of.the.machine             Is about th extent of my SSH-Skills heh
[12:50] <vege> command not found
[12:50] <vege> the .run file is on desktop
[12:50] <niall_> vege: where is the file? ;]
[12:50] <niall_> ok
[12:50] <niall_> did you spell it right?
[12:51] <vege> I copy and pasted
[12:51] <flipstar> hm did you moved that file ?
[12:51] <vege> nope
[12:51] <niall_> ok
[12:51] <niall_> try this
[12:51] <vege> it's starting
[12:51] <niall_> cd ~/Desktop
[12:51] <vege> I must have copied a space
[12:51] <niall_> lol ;]
[12:52] <vege> same setup error message
[12:52] <flipstar> rip_curl: you can specify an identify file with the -i option <ssh -i [user@]hostname>
[12:52] <flipstar> argh + keyfile
[12:53] <niall_> is there an error printed in the terminal?
[12:53] <rip_curl> can you write example please
[12:53] <vege> yes >> I'll repeat it
[12:54] <flipstar> without options the default is read in ~/.ssh/identity
[12:54] <niall_> just copy it all and put it in a pastebin
[12:54] <rip_curl> wow
[12:54] <flipstar> for more info just type man ssh | grep ident
[12:56] <vege> I'm trying once more and this time it's going way slower
[12:56] <niall_> vege: what are you doing?
[12:57] <vege> how do I copy console text?
[12:57] <niall_> select it
[12:58] <niall_> then right click and goto copy
[12:58] <rip_curl> just select it
[12:58] <vege> it doesn't
[12:58] <rip_curl> and right click
[12:58] <rip_curl> shift+select
[12:58] <Dr_willis> or select and middle click :)
[12:58] <vege> it's like a gui in console
[12:58] <niall_> huh?
[12:58] <flipstar> you can also exec the command with an '> file'
[12:58] <vege> it is
[12:59] <flipstar> then just open 'file'
[12:59] <vege> I'll just have to type the error message
[12:59] <niall_> take a screenshot
[12:59] <niall_> because I have no idea what's going on
[12:59] <kalib> exit
[12:59] <vege> screenshot taken
[12:59] <vege> now what?
[13:00] <niall_> put it on the internet somewhere
[13:00] <flipstar> just upload it :)
[13:00] <flipstar> e.g. http://imageshack.us/
[13:00] <vege> righto
[13:03] <vege> this is very frustrating
[13:04] <niall_> what is?
[13:04] <vege> I believe I'm saving it as a JPG but after upload it says it's an invalid file type
[13:05] <Dr_willis> May be easier to practice cutting/pasteing :)
[13:06] <niall_> it's a gui error apparently
[13:06] <niall_> so he can't copy/paste it
[13:06] <Dr_willis> ahh.
[13:06] <Dr_willis> Dont ya hate dialog box's that dont let ya select text.
[13:06] <Dr_willis> or worse when they state some command you Proberly really DO want to cut/paste... and they dont think of that.
[13:07] <flipstar> hm you could upload it to http://fast-load.net/ .. so we could get it anyway..
[13:07] <Dr_willis> well its bed time for me.  Night all.
[13:07] <stf> Hi. What package do I need for the qt4 examples?
[13:08] <vege> http://www.fast-load.net/index.php?pid=10091774
[13:08] <vege> it's getting late here too
[13:09] <niall_> ;p
[13:09] <flipstar> oh it still that libgtk issue..
[13:09] <vege> yep
[13:09] <vege> different error number though
[13:09] <niall_> did you not do 'sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2'?
[13:09] <stf> they don't seem to be in qt4-dev-tools or qt4-doc
[13:10] <flipstar> raher libgtk1.2-common
[13:10] <vege> yes I did and it said I already have it >> I believe that's whgat it said
[13:10] <niall_> that was when you tried to install 2.0
[13:10] <flipstar> try sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-common
[13:10] <vege> will do
[13:10] <niall_> have you not tried pressing that big OK button?
[13:11] <flipstar> oh right lol
[13:11] <rip_curl> xxx@xxx-kde:~/.ssh$ ssh -i identify user@host.com
[13:11] <rip_curl> user@host.com's password: (PASSPHRASE)
[13:11] <rip_curl> Permission denied, please try again.
[13:11] <flipstar> the pass is right ?
[13:11] <rip_curl> xxx@xxx-kde:~/.ssh$ ssh -i identify user@host.com
[13:11] <flipstar> the keyfile is in the dir ?
[13:11] <vege> Reading package lists... Done
[13:11] <vege> Building dependency tree
[13:11] <vege> Reading state information... Done
[13:11] <vege> E: Couldn't find package libgtk1.2-common
[13:11] <rip_curl> yes
[13:12] <rip_curl> it's name is identify
[13:12] <rip_curl> it must login by passphrase
[13:12] <rip_curl> but it didn't asked it
[13:12] <rip_curl> it asked users password
[13:12] <flipstar> yes it uses the keyfile..
[13:13] <flipstar> hm i dont know ssh very well
[13:13] <niall_> vege: have you tried just pressing OK on the installer?
[13:13] <rip_curl> but I can connect with this file via putty
[13:13] <rip_curl> =)
[13:13] <vege> there is no OK button
[13:14] <niall_> on that screenshot you sent me
[13:14] <niall_> it says OK at the bottom ;p
[13:14] <niall_> you're running this OS: 'OK'
[13:14] <vege> yep I tried that
[13:14] <vege> it's just a pic,
[13:14] <niall_> what did you try?
[13:14] <vege> pressing the OK button lol
[13:14] <flipstar> rip_curl: hm the keyfile is synced with the server ?
[13:14] <niall_> clicking it?
[13:15] <vege> I press Enter and get a new screen
[13:15] <niall_> yes
[13:15] <vege> License Agreement
[13:15] <niall_> then what?
[13:15] <flipstar> what says this new screen ?
[13:15] <niall_> accept it
[13:15] <rip_curl> I can login using this keyfile with putty-ssh clent at this comouter
[13:15] <vege> only option is exit
[13:15] <flipstar> yes..scroll down
[13:15] <niall_> you probably have to scroll down to the bottom of it first
[13:16] <vege> it says 8% in lower RH corner but
[13:16] <vege> doesn't seem to scroll further
[13:16] <stf> found them /usr/share/doc/qt4-doc/qt4-examples.tar.gz
[13:16] <flipstar> just press pagedown ..
[13:16] <vege> even with window dragged long
[13:17] <vege> yes pg dwn works lol
[13:17] <niall_> :P
[13:17] <flipstar> rip_curl: hm ~/.ssh/identity didnt exits before ?
[13:17] <vege> still at bottom only option is exit
[13:17] <vege> no agree or disagree
[13:18] <vege> 2 secs
[13:19] <vege> having scrolled to bttom and hitting exit I h=get the agree/disagree option
[13:19] <flipstar> rip_curl: maybe the filename is wrong..but it should import it from keyring..sorry i dont know
[13:19] <niall_> lol
[13:19] <vege> so I agree and am offered an install path
[13:20] <vege> but
[13:20] <vege> I get error message
[13:20] <niall_> what error message?
[13:20] <vege> No write permission to /usr/local/games
[13:20] <vege> no directory there?
[13:20] <niall_> ;o
[13:20] <vege> need to create?
[13:20] <flipstar> did you ran it as sudo vege ?
[13:21] <vege> I simply clicked the run file
[13:21] <vege> it took off from there
[13:21] <niall_> :P
[13:21] <flipstar> yeah then you have to install it into your home dir
[13:21] <vege> move file to home?
[13:21] <niall_> no
[13:21] <niall_> install it there
[13:21] <flipstar> rip_curl: maybe they can help you in #openssh
[13:22] <flipstar> right it asked you for an path..
[13:22] <flipstar> just choose your home dir
[13:22] <vege> path =
[13:22] <vege> how do I word it?
[13:22] <flipstar> e.g. /home/vege/ET
[13:22] <niall_> the /usr/ folder is owned by the system, you can't install there with out super user privileges. So either run the installer again with sudo or install to your home directory
[13:22] <niall_> yer
[13:22] <niall_> where vege = your login name
[13:23] <rip_curl> ok
[13:23] <flipstar> right but in the screeny it is :)
[13:23] <niall_> ;]
[13:23] <vege> please enter path in which to create the symbolic links?
[13:23] <flipstar> wherever you want it
[13:24] <flipstar> e.g /home/vege/Desktop
[13:24] <vege> default is /usr/local/bin
[13:24] <rip_curl> vege CONSOLE>OPTIONS>KEYBOARD>UNIX KEYBOARD for copy/paste in shell =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[13:24] <vege> rp curl go for a night surf lol
[13:24] <Roy_M> Hi, I am just wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a usb keyboard on my kubuntu system. Does anyone know the command that will show me all the attached usb devices?
[13:24] <vege> what's a symbolic link?  a shortcut?
[13:25] <flipstar> right
[13:25] <vege> thnx
[13:26] <vege> Do you want to install startup menu entries?
[13:26] <vege> what's that?
[13:26] <flipstar> an entry in start menu..
[13:27] <flipstar> aka kmenu
[13:27] <vege> right
[13:27] <vege> holy shit
[13:27] <vege> it's installing
[13:27] <vege> =P
[13:28] <niall_> :P
[13:28] <niall_> you could have isntalled it ages ago if you'd just pressed OK ;o
[13:28] <flipstar> right
[13:28] <flipstar> lol
[13:29] <vege> no I pressed OK bro, I told you it's a non=responsive gui window lol
[13:29] <vege> ok guess what?
[13:29] <vege> now I have to patch it
[13:29] <Yattie> hi all : me need help here
[13:29] <flipstar> mice in konsole isnt supported i guess
[13:29] <niall_> it's not a GUI, it's a text based installer
[13:30] <vege> it acted like a GUI
[13:30] <niall_> :P
[13:30] <flipstar> its faked ;)
[13:30] <Yattie> how can i use broadcom wireless on latest kubuntu without using fixed cable to active the restricted driver plz
[13:32] <stdin> Yattie: you can't, it needs to download the firmware from broadcom so it need a net connection
[13:33] <flipstar> Yattie: maybe you have luck and there on an install cd ..
[13:33] <flipstar> but since it falls under restricted i dont think so
[13:33] <Yattie> can i use ndiswrapper ?
[13:33] <stdin> flipstar: even if the package was on the installer, the firmware won't be
[13:35] <Yattie> mmm i do ve the broadcom windows driver cant i use the ndiswrapper for that ?
[13:36] <stdin> Yattie: you can try I guess
[13:36] <vege> I'd really like to thank you guys for your support
[13:36] <vege> very very very nice of you
[13:36] <niall_> ;]
[13:37] <vege> ;)
[13:38] <vege> the update isn't a .run file
[13:38] <niall_> uh oh
[13:38] <vege> it's et.x86
[13:38] <vege> how to exe it
[13:38] <niall_> well give executing permissions and try running it
[13:38] <niall_> see what happens
[13:38] <vege> leave until tomorrow?  lol
[13:39] <vege> it is set as exe already
[13:39] <vege> clicking doesn't execute it
[13:39] <vege> sudo et.x86
[13:39] <vege> O_o
[13:40] <stdin> vege: try with ./et.x86
[13:41] <vege> sudo ./et.x86??
[13:41] <vege> doesn't work
[13:42] <flipstar> error msg ?
[13:42] <vege> sudo: ./et.x86: command not found
[13:42] <niall_> oh
[13:42] <niall_> vege: are you running 64bit Kubuntu?
[13:42] <flipstar> you are in the right directory ?
[13:42] <vege> take it out of it's folder?
[13:42] <vege> 32bit
[13:42] <niall_> that's ok then
[13:42] <flipstar> no just cd to it
[13:42] <niall_> but yeah, you need to be in the right place first
[13:42] <vege> yes that's right
[13:42] <vege> thnx
[13:43] <Neo> hi everybody
[13:43] <vege> cd Desktop sudo ./et.x86
[13:44] <vege> error
[13:44] <Neo> I have a problem with network file sharing
[13:44] <flipstar> vege first cd to Desktop then exec..
[13:44] <stdin> vege: "error" isn't descriptive ;)
[13:44] <flipstar> or cd Desktop;sudo ./et.x86
[13:45] <Neo> I shared some folders through samba, other pcs running windows can see them but can't browse
[13:45] <niall_> how do I compress things with z7?
[13:45] <Neo> why?
[13:45] <vege> sudo: ./et.x86: command not found
[13:45] <niall_> lol
[13:45] <vege> yes did cd Desktop first
[13:46] <flipstar> niall easiest think is ark for that
[13:46] <stdin> vege: type "ls" to see of the files is there
[13:46] <flipstar> or file-roller
[13:46] <Neo> someone?
[13:46] <aukerman> how can i make a server on kubuntu 7.10
[13:46] <flipstar> which kind of server aukerman ?
[13:47] <vege> Is sudo: ./et.x86??
[13:47] <flipstar> Neo: do you have other linux machines to test in the network ?
[13:47] <Neo> no
[13:47] <flipstar> vege nur just ls
[13:47] <flipstar> *no
[13:48] <vege> just type Is?
[13:48] <stdin> vege: lower-case L not I
[13:48] <flipstar> Neo: so comes there an error msg when trying to access ?
[13:48] <vege> kk
[13:49] <Neo> yes, the error says they are not readable
[13:49] <flipstar> hm did you checked permissions ?
[13:49] <vege> Enemy Territory 2.60b  firefox-2.0.0.11.tar.gz
[13:49] <vege> et                     NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run
[13:49] <vege> ET-2.60b-linux.zip     pbsetup.run
[13:49] <vege> etded                  ubuntuzilla-4.4.5-0ubuntu1-i386.deb
[13:49] <Neo> yes
[13:49] <aukerman> flipstar: i need to share my conection with a windows xp pc
[13:49] <stdin> !paste | vege, plase use pastebin
[13:49] <ubotu> vege, plase use pastebin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:49] <flipstar> your internet connection aukerman ?
[13:50] <aukerman> flipstar: i have a non routed dsl moden and a switch
[13:50] <vege> ok ubotu
[13:50] <flipstar> hm isnt there in option for in knetworkmanager ?
[13:50] <aukerman> flipstar: cable moden i mean
[13:50] <stdin> vege: "et.x86" isn't on your desktop then
[13:50] <flipstar> im not using it
[13:50] <vege> it's in a folder
[13:51] <vege> now it is
[13:51] <flipstar> vege then cd to this specific folder..
[13:51] <stdin> vege: so you need to cd into the folder "cd folder"
[13:52] <Roy_M> Hi, I have a really bad problem with my usb keyboard. It works fine to navigate the gurb menu and to type in my password at the splaxh screen, but as soon as I get into kubuntu my keyboad stops responding
[13:53] <aukerman> flipstar: yes i want to share my internet connection
[13:53] <vege> my result - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53955/
[13:53] <flipstar> isnt there an option in knetworkmanager aukerman ? im not using it
[13:54] <niall_> ah ha
[13:54] <niall_> you may have to run that in your ET directory?
[13:54] <aukerman> flipstar: if its there, i did not find it...
[13:54] <niall_> vege: where did you install ET?
[13:54] <aukerman> flipstar: i think there isnt
[13:54] <vege> ok will try using cd
[13:55] <vege> in HOME dir
[13:55] <niall_> in it's own folder though right?
[13:55] <vege> yes
[13:55] <niall_> well what's that?
[13:55] <vege> Home/ET
[13:55] <niall_> ok
[13:56] <niall_> move et.x86 into there
[13:56] <niall_> then run it
[13:56] <flipstar> hm you could try this here aukerman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[13:56] <aukerman> flipstar: i will check it out . thanks]
[13:56] <vege> hmmmm
[13:57] <vege> it already has an et.x86 file there
[13:57] <niall_> that's probably the file the patch is replacing then?
[13:57] <vege> ok
[13:57] <niall_> is that all that was in the patch, that one file?
[13:58] <vege> 2 files
[13:58] <niall_> what else?
[13:58] <vege> et.x86 and etded.x86
[13:58] <vege> I replaced them both
[13:58] <niall_> yer
[13:58] <niall_> well that's it in then
[13:58] <niall_> ;]
[13:58] <niall_> you're good to go
[13:58] <vege> so no exe then
[13:58] <niall_> you don't have exes in linux
[13:58] <vege> ok I'll boot up
[13:58] <vege> ok
[13:58] <vege> I am a nub
[13:59] <niall_> I can tell ;D
[13:59] <vege> meanie
[13:59] <niall_> :<
[13:59] <niall_> <3
[14:02] <vege> well it works but it's not very good
[14:02] <niall_> what's up?
[14:02] <vege> it's like my gfx card driver sux
[14:02] <niall_> yer
[14:02] <vege> in Windows it's very slick
[14:02] <niall_> you should enable the restricted drivers
[14:02] <vege> I did
[14:02] <vege> I just checked that
[14:02] <niall_> have you restarted since you've done it?
[14:02] <vege> it's super laggy even moving the cursor
[14:03] <aukerman> what is the defalt root password?
[14:03] <niall_> there is no root password
[14:03] <aukerman> defaulti mean
[14:03] <vege> yes restared since enabling restricted driver but not since game install
[14:03] <vege> will reboot
[14:03] <niall_> you don't need to after installing things
[14:03] <vege> guys, again >>>  thanks a bundle
[14:03] <niall_> hmm
[14:03] <vege> =)
[14:04] <vege> it's 2am I need sleep
[14:04] <vege> cyas
[14:04] <aukerman> you mean my main user account is the root acount?
[14:04] <niall_> no
[14:04] <aukerman> so how do i start a root session?
[14:05] <niall_> what are you trying to do?
[14:05] <aukerman> sorry iḿ a noob.... kkk
[14:06] <aukerman> this:   type all the following commands in a root terminal, DO NOT use sudo.
[14:06] <flipstar> sudo -su
[14:06] <flipstar> then youre root in konsole
[14:06] <aukerman> whoa!!!
[14:06] <aukerman> thanks
[14:09] <vege> a reboot did it
[14:09] <vege> it's silky smooth now
[14:09] <niall_> :D
[14:09] <niall_> success
[14:09] <vege> goodnight and take care
[14:09] <niall_> you too
[14:09] <niall_> nn
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  :-)
[14:17] <aukerman> flipstar: when i write: echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward
[14:18] <aukerman> flipstar: i get this error mess : bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward: No such file or directory
[14:18] <stdin> aukerman: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward
[14:18] <llutz> ip_forward with R
[14:19] <stdin> yeah, but use tee not > too :)
[14:19] <llutz> echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[14:19] <stdin> llutz: fail
[14:20] <stdin> needs to be done with root privs
[14:20] <stdin> "echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[14:20] <aukerman> flipstar: i get this: bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[14:20] <llutz> stdin: he made sudo -su before (some lines above)
[14:20] <aukerman> thanks
[14:20] <stdin> llutz: that's "Not A Good Thing (tm)"
[14:20] <aukerman> now it works
[14:20] <aukerman> it is echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[14:21] <llutz> stdin: i´his error is a typo in" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward "
[14:21] <stdin> llutz: no, I mean "sudo su" is bad, calls pam's auth twice, "sudo -i" is better
[14:21] <llutz> stdin: wasn't my advice
[14:22] <stdin> same message to flipstar then ;)
[14:23] <flipstar> right..i just didnt knew better..
[14:23] <pd> #ubuntu-es
[14:24] <ibou> hi
[14:25] <flipstar> i just prefer sudo -su becourse i modified my shell a little bit :)
[14:26] <aukerman> theres one las thing to do
[14:26] <aukerman> "Add the line "net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf"
[14:27] <stdin> !away > word
[14:28] <stdin> flipstar: sudo -i calls the login shell, like su. using su with sudo auths you to root then logs root in *again* with su
[14:29] <aukerman> which one is better?
[14:29] <aukerman> i will have problems if i usu -su?
[14:29] <stdin> flipstar: wait, you're using "-su", that confused me a bit ;)
[14:29] <aukerman> i will have problems if i use -su?
[14:29] <word> stdin: it's an alternate nick..i didn't change it on my own i must've reconnected and had a ghost in the middle of the night...
[14:29] <stdin> flipstar: there's no need for the "u" part
[14:29] <flipstar> oh sry for that :)
[14:30] <stdin> flipstar: I thought it said "sudo su", that little '-' is all important :p
[14:30] <stdin> aukerman: no
[14:31] <flipstar> so with the '-' i still dont need the u ?
 sudo -su
[14:31] <aukerman> [12:06] <-- red has left this server ("Konversation terminated!").
[14:31] <aukerman> [12:06] <flipstar> then youre root in konsole
[14:31] <stdin> flipstar: the -u option is for user, which defaults to root anyway
[14:32] <flipstar> okay..thanks
[14:32] <aukerman> thatś what ive done
[14:33] <aukerman> an ive got root@.....
[14:34] <stdin> aukerman: that's fine with "-su", but the "u" is not necessary, "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" both work
[14:36] <Raizard> i have a problem with my nVidia D drivers: if i install it by clicking on "Use Nvidia Driver" in the restricted manager, when i reboot there are a lot of orizontal lines on my screen and colors are low. Do you know what can i do?
[14:37] <apostol> драсти
[14:37] <jussi01> apostol: can we help?
[14:38] <flipstar> !ru | apostol
[14:38] <ubotu> apostol: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:39] <apostol> ниче не понял.......
[14:39] <flipstar> !ru > apostol
[14:39] <stdin> apostol: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:41] <batis610> i have a problem... firefox is no more executing javascript.... i don't understand, it was working 10minutes ago
[14:42] <flipstar> did you changed something ?
[14:44] <batis610> flipstar: no
[14:44] <batis610> flipstar: konqueror neither
[14:45] <flipstar> hm and youre sure it still is enabled ?
[14:45] <flipstar> setting->content->javascript in firefox
[14:47] <batis610> flipstar: yes it is already
[14:48] <flipstar> did you tried different javascripts ?
[14:49] <batis610> flipstar: like...
[14:50] <flipstar> ..javasripts websites..
[14:50] <raduan> hello
[14:50] <raduan> anybody can help me
[14:54] <batis610> flipstar: give me a one and i'll told you what.... anyway it's working here http://www.w3schools.com/js/tryit.asp?filename=tryjs_switch
[14:56] <flipstar> batis610: you could try this.. http://celtickane.com/webdesign/jsspeed2007.php
[14:58] <batis610> flipstar: it works.... what's wrong mith my page then :(
[14:58] <flipstar> sry i dont know javascript very well .. try ##javascript
[14:59] <batis610> flipstar: thks anyway
[15:00] <Roy> does anyone here know how to turn off the single click thing in kde4
[15:06] <Raizard> I have installed nvidia 3D drivers, but now my screen has a lot of orizontal lines
[15:06] <Raizard> what can i do?
[15:07] <Raizard> i'm looking at the xorg.conf file but all seems ok
[15:08] <flipstar> no error message ?
[15:08] <Raizard> no
[15:08] <Raizard> only this lines
[15:08] <Raizard> they're very small
[15:09] <flipstar> which graphic card you have ?
[15:09] <Raizard> nvidia Geforce 7300 LE
[15:09] <gregor> Hi @all
[15:10] <flipstar> a desktop pc .. ?
[15:10] <Raizard> yes
[15:10] <ubuntu_> Hello there, hope im not intruptin' I have just loaded up a kubuntu live disk, and when i try and use the built in msn client, it crashes when it trys to login.  Is this because it is not installed to hdd?
[15:11] <Raizard> wait... configuration file is changed
[15:11] <Raizard> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:11] <Raizard> it's changed
[15:12] <Raizard> may i reboot to see if it works?
[15:12] <flipstar> it may enough to restart the xserver..but restarting the system is safer
[15:13] <Raizard> ok so i restart and the back
[15:13] <Raizard> then*
[15:15] <Raizard> back
[15:16] <Raizard> it works now
[15:16] <Raizard> great
[15:16] <flipstar> great
[15:16] <Raizard> ^^
[15:16] <Raizard> now i can play Wow here =D
[15:16] <flipstar> !wow
[15:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:17] <Raizard> emh... how can i use Compiz?
[15:17] <Raizard> is it installed by default like Ubuntu?
[15:19] <savetheWorld> Hi all  is there a way to use apt to check what version of VLC resides in the current LTS repositiories?
[15:19] <SlimeyPete> savetheWorld: you can use packages.ubuntu.com via a web browser
[15:20] <savetheWorld> thanks, I'll tak a look!
[15:20] <savetheWorld> *take
[15:20] <savetheWorld>  *dang dingers
[15:20] <savetheWorld> *fingers
[15:20] <flipstar> !compiz | Raizard
[15:20] <ubotu> Raizard: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:20] <savetheWorld> (look! recursive typos!)
[15:21] <SlimeyPete> savetheWorld: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/vlc
[15:21] <savetheWorld> wow!
[15:21] <savetheWorld>  SlimeyPete thank you.
[15:22] <SlimeyPete> no problem.
[15:22] <Raizard> thankyou flipstar
[15:23] <flipstar> does anyone know how i can increase timestamp_timeout in /etc/sudoers ?
[15:26] <frojnd> don't wannt to be pain in the ass but I have this problem for a quite a long time and noone since to had it before: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681666   When I play moviese in full screen picture isn't sharp. Can someon help me solve this problem out ??
[15:27] <niall_> ..
[15:27] <niall_> well is the video really low res?
[15:27] <llutz> flipstar: take this as an example http://debaan.blogspot.com/2007/02/sudo-sudoers-examples.html
[15:28] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: try different output modules in vlc
[15:28] <flipstar> damn thats complicated..
[15:29] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: (you have to switch on Advanced Mode first by clicking the box in the bottom-right corner of Preferences)
[15:29] <flipstar> hm i'll try that thanks llutz
[15:30] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, and than?
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: switch on Advanced Mode then go to the output modules on the left
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> try a few different ones
[15:30] <SlimeyPete> xv is usually best
[15:31] <SlimeyPete> but gl isn't bad
[15:31] <SlimeyPete> !dri
[15:31] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[15:32] <SlimeyPete> you do need to ensure that DRI is working too (xv and gl won't work without it)
[15:32] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, now not only the picture is still bad it even FLICKERS :S
[15:32] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: then try a different module. Keep trying - perhaps one will work well.
[15:33] <bcochofel> Hi, I need to install postgresql client 7.4 on gutsy. Where can I find it?
[15:34] <pietjephuck> bcochofel: apt-cache search postgresql | grep client
[15:34] <niall_> if he's got a low res video and he's stretching it to fullscreen, it's never going to look good
[15:34] <niall_> really
[15:34] <bcochofel> pietjephuck: gets version 8.2.6
[15:35] <pietjephuck> bcochofel: I know :(
[15:35] <bcochofel> pietjephuck: is there any repo that I can use for that?
[15:36] <pietjephuck> bcochofel: Not that I know of
[15:37] <Raizard> i've installed compiz but when i do compiz --replace it says:Checking for Xgl: not present.
[15:37] <Raizard> No whitelisted driver found
[15:37] <Raizard> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[15:37] <Raizard> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[15:39] <ibou> do someone know what is "integrated NIC" in the bios  ?
[15:39] <llutz> ibou: the onboard network-adapter
[15:41] <ibou> llutz it's the ethernet card ?
[15:41] <bcochofel> pietjephuck: what about feisty backports ?
[15:41] <llutz> ibou: yes
[15:41] <pietjephuck> bcochofel: That might work
[15:41] <ibou> llutz: thanks
[15:42] <pietjephuck> bcochofel: is 8 not backwards compatible?
[15:42] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, I set it to opengl and thi seems to work but if there are fast movement in a movie I can see like a black line sometimes, like it stukcs now and than. Should this do something with my resolution or refresh rat e?
[15:42] <bcochofel> pietjephuck: nop
[15:43] <bcochofel> under psql \d doesn't work for 7.4 databases
[15:43] <billyd> Is there a way to install a new version of Kubuntu without repartitioning the disk and starting from scratch? It is easily done in FC and SUSE
[15:43] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, like, the picture would be cutted into 2 pices
[15:43] <ibou> i also have : "media card and 1394" in my bios. I know that 1394 is for network but what is  media card ?
[15:44] <flipstar> billyd: update-manager handles that..
[15:45] <billyd> OK - I saw a tab for it a while back but not now.  Is that part of Adept?
[15:45] <flipstar> no it is for its self
[15:45] <billyd> OK
[15:46] <billyd> Thanks
[15:49] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: try "glxinfo | grep -i direct" in a terminal, see if Direct Rendering is turned on
[15:50] <SlimeyPete> if not your machine may be using software rendering which is not very good
[15:50] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, direct rendering: Yes
[15:51] <SlimeyPete> frojnd: hmm, odd. I'm out of ideas now to be honest, sorry.
[15:51] <jcgkffycs> If I have my home directory on a seperate partition and I re-install the root, reformat and reinstall, then I tell the installer to mount my home partition as home and i tell it to create my user name will it just leave my user or will it over write my user data in /home/usr/?
[15:51] <frojnd> SlimeyPete, me too :s
[15:53] <flipstar> frojnd: does this happen with every video ?
[15:53] <flipstar> even dvds ?
[15:53] <frojnd> flipstar, all videos
[15:53] <frojnd> dvd I haven't tryed yet
[15:53] <frojnd> but I'm preety sure it's the same
[15:54] <flipstar> hm you also tried mplayer..?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> frojnd, what resolution is your scrn set at ?
[15:54] <frojnd> BluesKaj, srcn ?
[15:54] <flipstar> screen
[15:54] <linuxtom> hello everyone
[15:54] <BluesKaj> screen / monitor
[15:55] <frojnd> BluesKaj, I think at   Modes           "1200x800"
[15:55] <flipstar> frojnd: you even tried postprocessing @vlc player ?
[15:55] <frojnd> flipstar, what do u mean ?
[15:56] <frojnd> If I've c hange any output device ?
[15:56] <flipstar> goto fullscreen in the video then right clock..there is a postprocessing menu
[15:56] <flipstar> *click
[15:56] <linuxtom>  i do an automatic install with preseed.cfg but it don't use the nvidia driver for my graphic card. Someone can help me ?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> I agree with flipstar , try the VLC player and before anything else make sure DVDs are also poor
[15:56] <linuxtom> xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/device/driver select nvidia
[15:56] <linuxtom> xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_monitor boolean true
[15:57] <linuxtom> this is the content in my preseed.cfg
[15:57] <ibou> i have "media card and 1394" on my bios (onboard device). Do someone know what is it ?
[15:58] <linuxtom> Firewire ? ibou
[15:58] <ibou> linuxtom: don't know
[15:59] <frojnd> flipstar, ok set it to the highest, I still see on the moment like picture would be cut to the pieces
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ibou, 1394 is you firewire input
[15:59] <flipstar> set the output back to default..
[16:00] <linuxtom> nobody use preseed.cfg to make install ?
[16:00] <ibou> BluesKaj: media card can be my micro car, sdcard drive ?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ibou, do ' lspci ' in the terminal and post it in pastebin
[16:00] <ibou> ok
[16:00] <flipstar> linuxtom: no, where did you get it from ?
[16:01] <linuxtom> it's to make automatic install with the debian installer
[16:01] <frojnd> flipstar, if I set it back to default movie flickers: it  goes like slooow, in normal mode and in full screen mode
[16:01] <ibou> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53961/
[16:01] <frojnd> BluesKaj, and the picture isn't sharp, I can see squares..
[16:02] <james__> Hello All.. I installed kubuntu last night and I'm haveing a couple of issues was wondering if someone has a moment to try to help
[16:02] <flipstar> what..u changed it back to default and now its different then before ??
[16:02] <Steinar> hello!! :D
[16:02] <frojnd> flipstar, yes
[16:02] <flipstar> wired!!
[16:03] <flipstar> do you have codecs installed proberly ?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ibou, now what are you trying to set up ...sound or video or... ?
[16:03] <frojnd> flipstar, I gues.. the problem is I think I've installed too much...
[16:03] <flipstar> oh
[16:04] <ibou> BluesKaj:  i want to disable in my laptop bios every devices i don't use to save  power
[16:04] <flipstar> why dont you just remove that packages you installed.. ?
[16:04] <ibou> BluesKaj: i don't use ethernet and bluetooth
[16:04] <frojnd> flipstar, it's a long time since I've installed it & can't remember the name
[16:05] <flipstar> hm since when do you have these issues ?
[16:05] <frojnd> flipstar, what are the most common packages for installing all the codecs ?
[16:05] <frojnd> since I've installed gxine I think... but I allready removed it
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ok ibou , not too familiar with laptops and wireless and bluetooth
[16:05] <flipstar> !codecs
[16:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:05] <ibou> BluesKaj: ok thanks
[16:06] <BluesKaj> <---desktop
[16:06] <ibou> someone knows what is "module bay device" in my bios ?
[16:06] <Steinar> noen norske her som har kjempelyst til og hjelpe meg?
[16:07] <Steinar> someone who knows how i can get my D-link wireless card get "activated" ?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Steinar
[16:07] <ubotu> Steinar: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:08] <Steinar> Im using kubuntu ?
[16:08] <flipstar> you can check with cat /etc/*release
[16:09] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands
[16:09] <Steinar> cat ?
[16:09] <Steinar> im a noob in linux :S
[16:10] <Steinar> but now it klickt :S
[16:10] <Steinar> error error error :S
[16:11] <Steinar> im restarting it :P
[16:12] <Steinar> i think that was it... but i still dont have network :S
[16:14] <james__> How do I change the font size on my log in screen? I installed last night and when I boot the "user name" and "password" are huge and hard to see on the screen.
[16:15] <flipstar> james__: it is specified in xorg.conf
[16:15] <tim__> yo
[16:15] <sigma16> yo
[16:15] <sigma16> i need an ftp program any suggestions
[16:16] <flipstar> vsftpd is great
[16:16] <james__> flipstar: Thanks I'll look that up and see what I can find out, just wasnt sure where to start.
[16:16] <flipstar> sigma16: oh wait you mean ftp client ?
[16:16] <sigma16> yea
[16:16] <flipstar> use filezilla ;)
[16:16] <flipstar> james__: the first screen solution entry will be used
[16:17] <sigma16> ok
[16:17] <sigma16> i also need help with setting up a local server
[16:17] <sigma16> mysql and apache...
[16:17] <sigma16> i dont plan to use my pc as a server tho
[16:18] <james__> flipstar: And I should set it to what my desktop is, right?
[16:18] <sigma16> ??
[16:19] <flipstar> yes that make sense james__ but if you use other screen solution e.g. for games let them in
[16:19] <sigma16> yo
[16:19] <sigma16> can eny 1 help me with mysql & apache setup?
[16:20] <flipstar> #mysql & #apache
[16:20] <james__> flipstar: Thanks I'll see what I can find out and try to fix it, new to linux and still in my learning curve.
[16:20] <flipstar> oh
[16:21] <sigma16> flip
[16:21] <sigma16> no 1 in there is talkin
[16:21] <jussi01> !lamp | sigma16
[16:21] <ubotu> sigma16: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:21] <flipstar> !guidelines > sigma16
[16:22] <sigma16> jussi
[16:22] <sigma16> where would i get it?
[16:22] <sigma16> wait
[16:22] <sigma16> link
[16:22] <sigma16> didn c that
[16:23] <frojnd> flipstar, ok I've removed all the codecs that I can remember and in VLC movies still can't play properly, but than I tryed in MPlayer and everything is ok
[16:24] <sigma16> jussi
[16:24] <jussi01> !tab > sigma16
[16:24] <frojnd> one q. If I install vlc all settings are saved in ~/.vlc ?
[16:25] <frojnd> even when I --purge remove vlc ?
[16:25] <jussi01> frojnd: should be afaik
[16:25] <sigma16> k
[16:25] <sigma16> that link doesnt tell u how to install on gutsy
[16:25] <sigma16> only older installations of kubuntu
[16:26] <sigma16> jussi01:  it doesnt say how to install it on gutsy
[16:26] <jussi01> sigma16: I think you will find its the same as feisty
[16:27] <frojnd> I'm trying to open wmv clip with mplayer and I get  error: Could not open required DirectShow codec wmvdmod.dll   How can I get rid of this error ?
[16:27] <jussi01> !w32codecs
[16:27] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[16:27] <linuxtom> someone can help me to configure preseed.cfg
[16:28] <sigma16> jussi01: i got aptitude failed(100)
[16:29] <flipstar> linuxtom: why dont you install the nvidia driver by yourself ?
[16:29] <jussi01> sigma16: it seems to work here.
[16:29] <sigma16> jussi01:  when i do sudo tasksel install lamp-server i get aptitude failed (100)
[16:30] <jussi01> sigma16: I cant help you further, sorry
[16:30] <ibou> désactivei have "internal cellular" in my bio but i have no idea about what is it.
[16:30] <ibou> oops
[16:30] <ibou> i have "internal cellular" in my bio but i have no idea about what is it.
[16:30] <ibou> bio=bios
[16:31] <linuxtom> flipstar: It's for a student class and i do a bootnet to reinstall all the pc each week
[16:31] <jussi01> ibou: I suggest you consult your motherboard manual
[16:32] <ibou> jussi01: thanks but i have a dell laptop and they didn't give it to me
[16:32] <linuxtom> flipstar: by default ubuntu use vesa and not nvidia
[16:34] <james__> OK.. one more question (this time, LOL) Where do I find the xorg.conf file?
[16:35] <SlimeyPete>  /etc/X11
[16:36] <flipstar> you should make a backup before editing..
[16:36] <james__> OK. so open /etc/X11 in Kate.. back-up and then edit the file?
[16:37] <flipstar> correct
[16:37] <flipstar> but without generall knowledge you shouldnt edit anyway..
[16:38] <james__> so what would I do to get my log in screen "normal" size?
[16:40] <james__> Guess I am confused.
[16:40] <jussi01> james__: iirc, there is a virtual something orother line, that needs commenting
[16:45] <flipstar> james__: it is well documented here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[16:45] <james__> Great, Thanks again. I'll read that. Thanks again.
[16:45] <flipstar> instead of nano i would use kate .. it is more user friendly
[16:46] <james__> I can do that. :)
[16:46] <flipstar> and instead of gdm you have kdm ;)
[16:47] <james__> :)
[16:50] <blekos> hello
[16:50] <blekos> why kubuntu doesnt recognize the command quota?
[16:50] <earthcreed> You have to install it.
[16:51] <SlimeyPete> blekos: "quota" is only usually used on servers. You have to install it.
[16:51] <earthcreed> sudo Apt-get install quota
[16:51] <blekos> i c
[16:51] <sigma16> i got error aptitude failed (100)
[16:51] <smeril> i had some problems installing adobe flash and now i have reinstalled ubuntu, what is the name of the correct flash plugin to use?
[16:52] <earthcreed> So does the kubuntu community have any place where thoughts on the nokia trolltech buyout are collected?
[16:53] <flipstar> not specificly - as far as i know but you can try
[16:53] <flipstar> !ot
[16:53] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:53] <djdarkman> smeril: try  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-mozilla
[16:53] <sigma16> ...........
[16:53] <smeril> do i have to install firefox before?
[16:53] <flipstar> yep
[16:53] <djdarkman> smeril: what browser are you using in the first place?
[16:54] <earthcreed> smeril: That is tricky Adobe changed a binary blob and ubuntu folk are still working on re-packaging it.
[16:54] <flipstar> for egdy and dapper it already is donw
[16:54] <sigma16> i got error aptitude failed (100) when trying to install lamp
[16:55] <smeril> konquer
[16:56] <djdarkman> smeril: don`t know how does the new flash player work in konqueror, I use opera and firefox, sorry I can`t help you there
[16:57] <sigma16> yo
[16:58] <sigma16> can some 1 help me
[16:58] <sigma16> i keep typing up my problem and i get shunned...
[16:59] <sigma16> plz..
[16:59] <smeril> what is the comand for download and installing firefox
[16:59] <smeril> ?
[16:59] <sigma16> open adept
[16:59] <sigma16> and type in firefox
[17:00] <hydrogen> apt-get install opera
[17:00] <smeril> thanks
[17:00] <sigma16> i get aptitude failure (100) when trying to install lamp
[17:00] <jpatrick> !aptfix > sigma16
[17:00] <jpatrick> !repeat > sigma16
[17:01] <smeril> when i type firefox i get many options
[17:01] <maznaz> !repeat > maznaz
[17:01] <sigma16> smeril
[17:01] <sigma16> it should just be plain firefox
[17:01] <sigma16> i think its the first choice?
[17:01] <ScorpKing> sudo apt-get install firefox
[17:02] <sigma16> jpatrick:  tyits installing
[17:02] <sigma16> scorp
[17:02] <sigma16> hes in adept..
[17:02] <sigma16> i think
[17:03] <smeril> everytime i try to install from adept it says that an error has occured what can i do about that?
[17:03] <jpatrick> !adeptfix > sigma16 (this then?)
[17:03] <sigma16> yea
[17:03] <sigma16> my terminal wen tblue and it says installing packages
[17:03] <sigma16> but its stuck at please wait... 0%
[17:03] <jpatrick> !adeptfix | smeril, sigma16
[17:03] <ubotu> smeril, sigma16: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:03] <sigma16> ok its moving
[17:04] <smeril> i used that command and killed the process should it be going now?
[17:05] <flipstar> yes smeril
[17:05] <smeril> thanks mate
[17:05] <sigma16> were do u guys learn all this stuff...
[17:05] <jpatrick> sigma16: sitting here
[17:05] <sigma16> lol
[17:06] <BluesKaj> yeah, i don't have a life :)
[17:06] <flipstar> a what ?
[17:06] <sigma16> um
[17:06] <sigma16> its stuck at this screen now
[17:06] <sigma16> it says installed php5-mysql 100%
[17:07] <smeril> firefox is working now but it still said that an error has occured after i deleted and installed again
[17:07] <flipstar> what kind of error ?
[17:08] <sigma16> jpatrick:  its stuck at 100% saying its installed
[17:08] <BluesKaj> flipstar, it's a north american/brit expression... nothing else interesting in my life
[17:08] <flipstar> !life
[17:08] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:08] <flipstar> ahh
[17:09] <smeril> error with unpack some file
[17:09] <sigma16> flipstar: its stuck at 100% and saying its isntalled but not going back to terminal
[17:09] <smeril> but firefox now is working
[17:09] <adrock358> can somebody help me.   Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[17:09] <flipstar> sigma16: no okay button ?
[17:09] <sigma16> flipstar:  no
[17:10] <flipstar> did you use adept ?sigma16
[17:10] <sigma16> terminal
[17:10] <smeril> when i try to install flash with the comand djdarkman gave me above it says that E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:10] <sigma16> flipstar: terminal
[17:11] <flipstar> you might have to use sudo before the command smeril
[17:11] <adrock358> anybody?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | smeril
[17:11] <ubotu> smeril: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:11] <smeril> i wrote it like this sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree flashplayer-mozilla
[17:11] <adrock358> help!
[17:12] <adrock358> dyin here
[17:12] <ScorpKing> adrock358: df -h in konsole. any partitions 100% used?
[17:12] <sigma16> adrock
[17:12] <jpatrick> !ask | adrock358
[17:12] <ubotu> adrock358: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:12] <flipstar> more information please adrock358
[17:12] <smeril> when i try sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » it says that the status data area is locked by another process
[17:12] <flipstar> error isnt enough
[17:12] <flipstar> !error | adrock358
[17:12] <ubotu> adrock358: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[17:12] <adrock358> no
[17:12] <sigma16> flipstar:  ??
[17:13] <adrock358> scorpking, no
[17:13] <flipstar> did you closed adept smeril ?
[17:13] <smeril> no
[17:13] <flipstar> then close it..
[17:13] <flipstar> and try again
[17:13] <sigma16> flipstar:  heloo?
[17:13] <ScorpKing> adrock358: o ok. when do you get the error?
[17:13] <flipstar> sigma16: still nothing ?
[17:13] <adrock358> scorpking.  i'm on like cd, and need to install updated to my hd.  i've mounted my hd, and am chrooted in
[17:13] <sigma16> flipstar:  no button
[17:14] <adrock358> scorpking.  pls hold on
[17:14] <flipstar> no finished msg ?
[17:14] <sigma16> it says installed
[17:14] <sigma16> and 100%
[17:14] <adrock358> scorpking http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53963/
[17:15] <flipstar> then it is installed sigma16
[17:15] <sigma16> ok how do i use it
[17:15] <sigma16> lamp
[17:15] <BluesKaj> smeril, then you have apt still open in the terminal trying to install something or adept is open or both... you can use only one pkg manager at a time .
[17:15] <ScorpKing> adrock358: you might have to turn swap on
[17:15] <adrock358> scorpking how?
[17:15] <sigma16> flipstar: how do i use it? also do u got the link to the lamp page?
[17:15] <adrock358> please
[17:16] <sigma16> !lamp
[17:16] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:16] <ScorpKing> adrock358: sudo swapon /dev/<disk>
[17:16] <g2g591> adrock358: swapon /dev/yourswappartation
[17:16] <adrock358> thank you both very much.  hold on pls
[17:16] <smeril> i closed all programs and did that unlock comand and tried again with installing flash from the terminal and it sayd that the program might be to old or something with the sources are wrong
[17:16] <sigma16> flipstar:  how do i use lamp?
[17:17] <flipstar> check that url sigma16
[17:17] <sigma16> i did
[17:17] <flipstar> i dont know about mysql check #mysql
[17:17] <sigma16> but it gives options on installing
[17:17] <miladen> How do i set my photoshop in wine to the right fonts? it just tells me that it cant find the fonts (which is fair enough)
[17:17] <sigma16> php mysql and apache
[17:17] <sigma16> but isnt that what lamp just did
[17:17] <sigma16> ?
[17:17] <flipstar> i dont know about mysql check #mysql
[17:17] <BluesKaj> smeril, use adept to install flash
[17:18] <sigma16> ??
[17:18] <adrock358> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53964/
[17:18] <smeril> i also tried again from adept and it crashed with error signal 6 sigabrt
[17:18] <g2g591> miladen: have you installed msttcorefonts? if not, do so
[17:18] <BluesKaj> !adept
[17:18] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[17:18] <hannes_> hi. anybody know of a good tutorial on how to install winXP next to Kubuntu?
[17:18] <adrock358> scorking, g2g51 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53964/
[17:18] <ScorpKing> !dualboot | hannes_
[17:18] <ubotu> hannes_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[17:18] <miladen> g2g591 is taht the  package name?
[17:18] <smeril> it is still saying that error message on adept everytime i am trying to install
[17:18] <g2g591> miladen: yep
[17:18] <smeril> but this time it crashed
[17:18] <sigma16> flipstar:  ??
[17:19] <flipstar> sigma16: join #mysql maybe they can help
[17:19] <sigma16> flip
[17:19] <ScorpKing> adrock358: it has to be the swap partition
[17:19] <sigma16> they yell at me to come back ehre
[17:19] <sigma16> saying its not what they do..
[17:19] <miladen> g2g591 thx
[17:19] <ScorpKing> sigma16: go try
[17:19] <hannes_> but when I have kubuntu already installed then installing XP is more complicated?
[17:20] <flipstar> the other way it is better hannes_
[17:20] <ScorpKing> hannes_: yes. you'll have to install grub again
[17:20] <ScorpKing> !grub | hannes_
[17:20] <ubotu> hannes_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:20] <flipstar> windows might corrupt you grub
[17:20] <miladen> g2g591 any configurations required?
[17:20] <hannes_> okay.. thanks
[17:20] <smeril> here is the crash report http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53965/
[17:20] <BluesKaj> smeril, reboot
[17:21] <smeril> ok
[17:21] <sigma16> it says i have apache2 installed
[17:21] <g2g591> miladen: i dont think so
[17:22] <g2g591> sigma16: have you looked (and done) all of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[17:22] <sigma16> im installing php5
[17:23] <smeril> i am back
[17:24] <sigma16> g2g591:  it gives me 2 mysql choices... for mysql-server mysql-server & mysql-server -5.0
[17:24] <ScorpKing> mysql-server
[17:25] <smeril> when i try to start adept it says that another process is using it. I just resterted the computer
[17:25] <ScorpKing> !aptfix | smeril
[17:25] <ubotu> smeril: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:25] <sigma16> ok i did all the install
[17:26] <adrock359> scorpking, what's swap partition?
[17:26] <sigma16> ok this is dumb ques
[17:26] <sigma16> how do i search a config file in terminal
[17:27] <sigma16> my mind is not working today >_<
[17:27] <ScorpKing> !swap | adrock359
[17:27] <ubotu> adrock359: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[17:27] <flipstar> maybe theres a probem transmitting packets over the neural network sigma16 ?
[17:27] <adrock359> scorpking.  my browser crashed.  you said i have to mount swap partition, rihgt?
[17:27] <flipstar> sigma16: locate <file>
[17:28] <ScorpKing> adrock359: yeah. you're in chroot..
[17:28] <adrock359> scorpking.  is this the partition live cd uses for ram?
[17:28] <ScorpKing> adrock359: no
[17:28] <adrock359> ok
[17:28] <sigma16> ok
[17:28] <sigma16> how do i aquire my internal ip...
[17:28] <flipstar> ifconfig
[17:29] <smeril> it is still saying an error has occured everytime i am installing or reinstalling a program with adept
[17:29] <sigma16> it gives my lyk 5 diff ones...
[17:29] <sigma16> 127.0.0.1?
[17:29] <flipstar> no..
[17:29] <flipstar> try www.myip.nl
[17:30] <smeril> error when downloading a packet it says  or that an arkive would damage the packet
[17:30] <ScorpKing> sigma16: ifconfig eth0
[17:30] <adrock359> scorpking  how do i finf the path of my sawp?
[17:30] <flipstar> sudo fdisk -l
[17:30] <sigma16> ScorpKing:  that doesnt give me an ip
[17:30] <flipstar> the website ?
[17:30] <ScorpKing> adrock359: you don't. sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and look what's the swap aprtition
[17:31] <flipstar> then try http://myip.name/?tab=myip sigma16
[17:31] <noam_> how can i find out the dvd burner model i have in kubuntu?
[17:31] <sigma16> ra0 gives :192.168.1.103
[17:31] <ScorpKing> sigma16: then that's it
[17:31] <flipstar> thats an internal ip ..
[17:31] <sigma16> is it possible to make my pc act as a server if im on a wireless network?
[17:31] <ScorpKing> yes
[17:31] <sigma16> right now i only plan to use this for stuff i develop
[17:31] <sigma16> with a router?
[17:32] <sigma16> um
[17:32] <ScorpKing> yes
[17:32] <sigma16> permission denied to save settings
[17:32] <flipstar> your ip is 68.37.97.52 sigma16
[17:32] <sigma16> to /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[17:32] <sigma16> ra0 gives me the ip of :192.168.1.103
[17:32] <ScorpKing> sigma16: you have to enable port foward on the router to that box though
[17:32] <flipstar> ra0 ?
[17:32] <sigma16> yea'
[17:33] <flipstar> ..
[17:33] <flipstar> whats that
[17:33] <sigma16> i have eth0 lo ra0
[17:33] <ScorpKing> flipstar: wireless
[17:33] <flipstar> oh
[17:33] <sigma16> so should i use my real ip or the one ra0 gfives me?
[17:34] <ScorpKing> for what?
[17:34] <flipstar> what do you need it for ?
[17:34] <sigma16> bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[17:34] <sigma16> it says to put my internal ip
[17:34] <flipstar> yes then the ra0 one
[17:34] <sigma16> k
[17:34] <sigma16> problem tho
[17:34] <ScorpKing> sigma16: that will be the routers address i think
[17:34] <sigma16> it wont let me save it
[17:34] <phroughy> !enter | sigma16
[17:34] <ubotu> sigma16: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:35] <sigma16> but i like it as a punctuation :(
[17:35] <sigma16> flipstar:  it wont let me save the config file
[17:35] <sigma16> flipstar:  it says permission denied
[17:35] <mackxzman> anyone know what happened here? http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii219/maxmanbe/?action=view&current=DSC00587.jpg it was like this on a fresh install
[17:35] <ScorpKing> sigma16: you root?
[17:35] <sigma16> im in terminal
[17:35] <sigma16> and im the only user on the pc
[17:35] <flipstar> try sudo it
[17:36] <sigma16> how..
[17:36] <flipstar> put sudo before..
[17:36] <sigma16> ctrl + o is writeOut
[17:36] <jpatrick> sigma16: sudo want-you-want
[17:36] <jpatrick> what-*
[17:36] <sigma16> im editing the config file in terminal...
[17:36] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: it might be the resolution
[17:36] <sigma16> only saving option is to do ctrl+o to save it
[17:37] <flipstar> mackxzman: looks like a bad screen resolution ..
[17:37] <mackxzman> ScorpKing: too high? because it loks really sharp, and if it were the wrong res it would look like crap, right?
[17:37] <phroughy> sigma16: you could quit (ctrl-x) then type sudo nano /file/your/editing and then make the changes again and save it
[17:37] <mackxzman> loks = looks
[17:37] <flipstar> mackxzman: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[17:38] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: if i look at the background it looks too high yes
[17:38] <flipstar> i would say to low ..
[17:38] <mackxzman> but it's only the case on the logon screen
[17:38] <mackxzman> everything else is fine
[17:38] <flipstar> see the link above..
[17:38] <sigma16> saved
[17:38] <sigma16> i didnt sudo it when i opened
[17:38] <sigma16> ....
[17:38] <sigma16> >_<
[17:38] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: press <ctrl>+<alt>+<keypad+> and see if that helps
[17:39] <mackxzman> alright, gonna try that out :)
[17:39] <ThomasD> ScorpKing: you meen <keypad->
[17:39] <flipstar> ScorpKing: the prob is only at login
[17:39] <ScorpKing> ThomasD: + or -.
[17:39] <ThomasD> ScorpKing: i know, was just being a bitch
[17:40] <flipstar> does it work there too .. ?
[17:40] <sigma16> flipstar: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:40] <sigma16> when i type mysql -u root in terminal
[17:40] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: there's a vga=xxx in /boot/grub/menu.lst that you can change the resolution up till the login screen
[17:40] <flipstar> sigma16: i exactly now nothing about mysql
[17:40] <linuxtom> flipstar: a piece of answer for my problem xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/autodetect_{monitor,mouse,video_card} boolean false
[17:41] <phroughy> sigma16: i had that error once, but i dont have any idea how i fixed it...
[17:41] <sigma16> ............
[17:41] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: vga=xxx is a kernel option btw
[17:41] <phroughy> sigma16: i'm pretty sure google saved me
[17:42] <ScorpKing> sigma16: there's no root password
[17:42] <articpenguin3800> how can i control my cpus throttling
[17:42] <mackxzman> ScorpKing: there's no vga= in my menu.lst :s
[17:42] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: in the kernel line?
[17:42] <sigma16> ScorpKing:  how do i fix?
[17:42] <phroughy> sigma16: um, i'm trying to remember... i think that the user that runs the mysql daemon must have acess to the .sock file
[17:42] <flipstar> articpenguin3800: have you enabled the this feature in bios ?
[17:42] <mackxzman> nope
[17:42] <mackxzman> nothing
[17:42] <articpenguin3800> yes
[17:42] <ScorpKing> sigma16: unless you've changed the root password just leave it blenk to connect
[17:42] <ThomasD> mackxzman: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[17:43] <articpenguin3800> what program can i use?
[17:43] <flipstar> intel or amd ?
[17:43] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: you might have to add it.
[17:43] <ThomasD> mackxzman: check the font sizes in that file
[17:43] <sigma16> ScorpKing:  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:43] <articpenguin3800> Amd sempron 3800
[17:43] <ScorpKing> sigma16: hm.. try google
[17:43] <flipstar> try athcool
[17:43] <articpenguin3800> ok
[17:44] <sigma16> ScorpKing: i am no luck rly...
[17:44] <articpenguin3800> i found a program kpowersave
[17:45] <ThomasD> articpenguin3800: kpowersave is da best
[17:46] <Steinar> hello?
[17:46] <phroughy> Steinar: hello
[17:46] <Steinar> maby you phroughy want to help me?
[17:46] <jussi01> !ASK | Steinar
[17:46] <ubotu> Steinar: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:46] <phroughy> Steinar: sure, but my battery might die soon
[17:46] <articpenguin3800> !kpowersave
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpowersave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:47] <sigma16> jussi01:  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> smeril, can you install anything at all , for example synaptic ?
[17:47] <jussi01> !pm | sigma16
[17:47] <ubotu> sigma16: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[17:47] <sigma16> flipstar: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:47] <articpenguin3800> g2g
[17:48] <MDU> selam bu programda divx çalışmıyormu
[17:48] <jpatrick> !pt > MDU
[17:48] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes
[17:48] <Steinar> okey: i innstalld kubuntu, i innstalld MCE, i wanna get the wireless D-Link Dwl-510 to work, i have downloaded NetworkManager, but i dont get my wireless router up... what do i do?
[17:49] <smeril> why does it says that it cant find the catalog when i am trying to navigate in terminal
[17:49] <phroughy> sigma16: make sure that mysqld is running and make sure the correct .sock file is specified in the my.cnf
[17:49] <sigma16> ok i got it to run
[17:50] <phroughy> Steinar: you want to get your wireless router working? does your local wireless card work?
[17:50] <smeril> i want to acces flash player wich is installed in my home catalog
[17:50] <ScorpKing> mackxzman: here's one more - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/lilo-vga-modes-152575/
[17:50] <Steinar> phroughy: im a noob, this is my first time im trying linux, so .sock file dosnt tell me a shitt :S
[17:50] <djdarkman> hello, I wanted to start kde4 version of kontac, and I got this /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeprint.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[17:50] <djdarkman> what should I do?
[17:50] <phroughy> Steinar: the comment about the .sock file was directed at sigma, and please watch your language
[17:50] <Steinar> phroughy: i know it work... it work perfectly...
[17:51] <phroughy> Steinar: which one doesn't work?
[17:51] <Steinar> :S
[17:52] <flipstar> djdarkman: is this all ?
[17:52] <djdarkman> flipstar: yes
[17:52] <BluesKaj> smeril, perhaps you could explain to us more clearly what exactly you are trying to do ? home catalog = home folder ?
[17:52] <phroughy> djdarkman: maybe your missing the kdeprint library
[17:52] <flipstar> hm you followed exactly http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php ? djdarkman
[17:52] <Steinar> phroughy: the card itself work, i first downloaded Ubuntu, and that did all by itself... but when i put in Kubuntu it didnt find the proper driver or something...
[17:53] <adaran> hey everyone.
[17:53] <djdarkman> flipstar: yes , kdeprint is already the newest version.
[17:53] <phroughy> Steinar: sorry, my battery is about to die, try googling your specified card and kubuntu, or ask someone else for help
[17:53] <Steinar> ok :)
[17:53] <Steinar> thank you... :D
[17:53] <adaran> can anyone tell me which kernel module i have to load to get binary nvidia driver support?
[17:54] <smeril> i downloaded adobe flash and it is in the folder home and i want to acces the installation file from the terminal
[17:54] <flipstar> you might try to remove kde4base and install instead of these kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace djdarkman
[17:54] <djdarkman> flipstar: djdarkman@Darknet2:~$ locate libkdeprint returns /usr/lib/libkdeprint.so.4 and /usr/lib/libkdeprint.so.4.2.0, but there is no libkdeprint.so.5
[17:54] <flipstar> yes kde4base is already old..
[17:54] <BluesKaj> smeril, what is the file extension ?
[17:55] <smeril> i am using instructions from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[17:55] <flipstar> adaran: you have to install the whole package..driver will next boot loaded automaticly
[17:55] <adaran> flipstar, err, no it won't, sorry
[17:55] <smeril> In terminal, navigate to this directory and type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer. Click Enter. The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s).
[17:56] <adaran> flipstar, i used to have an ati card, and i've made some creative modifications wrestling with the various incarnations of the demon that is the ATI driver
[17:56] <djdarkman> flipstar: I don`t have kde4base installed and no other old kde4 libs
[17:56] <adaran> flipstar, so at the moment, i'm just trying to figure out which kernel module is the right one, and what the difference between nvidia_new and nvidia_legacy is
[17:56] <BluesKaj> smeril, , where did you download the file to?
[17:56] <flipstar> the just install the kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace djdarkman
[17:56] <adaran> flipstar, also the module seems to be in the wrong directory
[17:56] <smeril> to desktop and extracted to home
[17:56] <flipstar> legacy is for old hardware ..
[17:57] <flipstar> new is .. .. new
[17:57] <djdarkman> usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5			    libs/kdelibs5 [universe]
[17:57] <djdarkman> is kdelibs5 considered old?
[17:57] <adaran> hmm i've had "nv" disabled in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, not sure if that is related to nvidia though
[17:58] <flipstar> djdarkman: no .. guess not try to install it
[17:58] <smeril> but
[17:59] <flipstar> adaran: you said you had a ati .. guess you cant overtake you modifications easily..
[17:59] <flipstar> to nvidia
[17:59] <adaran> flipstar, yeah, i'm trying to undo them. they were just workarounds to get it working
[17:59] <flipstar> ah
[17:59] <BluesKaj> smeril,in the terminal copy and paste or type  ./flashplayer-installer
[18:00] <adaran> ati's way too expensive. $x and you still have to buy an nvidia card, to get a usable system =/
[18:00] <smeril> it cant be found it says
[18:01] <flipstar> the nvidia module is just called nvidia
[18:01] <stdin> djdarkman: don't know where you got kontact from, but it's nothing we packaged (KDEPIM was not released with 4.0.0)
[18:01] <flipstar> cd to the place youve downloaded it first, smeril
[18:01] <djdarkman> stdin: realy?
[18:02] <djdarkman> does that mean that I installed an "old" konctact kde4?
[18:02] <smeril> can you show me how to do that
[18:02] <adaran> flipstar, well, no nvidia.ko for me atm. however, is there even such a thing as a nvidia.ko? i found a script that switches between nvidia_new and nvidia_legacy, for example
[18:02] <stdin> djdarkman: yeah, it was considered un-ready for release
[18:02] <adaran> flipstar, ah, nm
[18:02] <BluesKaj> smeril, in the terminal type : cd install_flash_player_9_linux
[18:02] <adaran> flipstar, removed the DISABLED_MODULES="nv" part, reinstalled restricted modules
[18:02] <adaran> flipstar, now i have it
[18:03] <djdarkman> gues that explains why it`s incompatible with the kde4.0.0 stdin ...
[18:03] <adaran> flipstar, it's loaded \o/
[18:03] <flipstar> great :)
[18:03] <adaran> i'll be back in a second to annoy with my questions about getting twin-dvi output to work =)
[18:03] <adaran> brb
[18:03] <stdin> djdarkman: I think (not 100%) the old kdepim and it's packages should have been removed on upgrading to 4.0.0
[18:04] <quilty> is it possible to add devices(partitions) to the "Storage Media" folder? My normal partitions are listed correctly but those from my softwareraid aren't :/
[18:04] <smeril> it dosent work
[18:04] <BluesKaj> smeril, then type : ./flashplayer-installer
[18:04] <fyrmedic> Is 64bit worth going to? I have been using 32 bit because I had heard that there is not a lot of packages available for 64 bit yet
[18:04] <stdin> djdarkman: ahh, it's has a >= dependency rather than a =, so guess it wouldn't
[18:05] <sui>  hi
[18:05] <flipstar> there are little benefits for 64bit i think
[18:05] <djdarkman> stdin: maybe a conflict should be added to the new 4.0.0 packages then against the old kde4pim :)
[18:06] <stdin> djdarkman: I'll put up a bug report and poke a few people with it
[18:06] <BluesKaj> smeril, it's not supposed to work yet , your changing to proper directory with the 'cd install_flash_player_9_linux command.
[18:06] <smeril> http://pastebin.com/m126f754f
[18:07] <djdarkman> thanks stdin it might help some other kontact-lovers who can`t wait to try the kde4 version of it
[18:07] <BluesKaj> smeril, once you've changed to the right directory then type: install_flash_player_9_linux
[18:08] <X9nLinuxX> how would I do a global search for an app installed last night that does not want to show up in K menu?
[18:08] <smeril> comand is not found
[18:08] <BluesKaj> oops smeril type ./flashplayer-installer
[18:09] <smeril> from what directory
[18:09] <smeril> ?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> from install_flash_player_9_linux
[18:09] <smeril> i have navigated to home
[18:10] <BluesKaj> default
[18:10] <BluesKaj> smeril, home is the terminal default directory
[18:11] <smeril>  when i start terminal it says smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ and when i do cd it looks like this   smeril@smeril-laptop:/home$
[18:12] <flipstar> default is /home/<username>
[18:12] <flipstar>  /
[18:12] <BluesKaj> you don't need to navigate to home, smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ is "home"
[18:13] <flipstar> just cd to Desktop/flash-player-installer or similar
[18:13] <BluesKaj> flipstar, that's what Ive been trying to explain to him
[18:13] <flipstar> or open the directory on the desktop and then just press F4
[18:14] <BluesKaj> he needs to cd install_flash_player_9_linux , then ./flashplayer-installer
[18:15] <flipstar> the f4 shortcut just opens a konsole in current dir :)
[18:15] <flipstar> with konqueror
[18:15] <sigma16> how do i create a desktop shortcut for something via terminal?
[18:15] <flipstar> just make a text file
[18:15] <smeril> it dosent work it says that comand cant be found
[18:15] <sigma16> ?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> not on my kb , flipstar
[18:16] <smeril> katalog dosent exist
[18:16] <flipstar> oh wait sigma16
[18:16] <BluesKaj> what command smeril?
[18:16] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ ./flashplayer-installer
[18:16] <smeril> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[18:16] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$
[18:16] <flipstar> right click then make shourtcut or similar sigma16
[18:17] <BluesKaj> smeril, first do this : cd install_flash_player_9_linux ...can you do that ?
[18:17] <slyboots> Hi, Anyone any advice on how to get the brightness keys from a Thinkpad working in kubuntu, they worked fine in Gnome but seem to be broken in KDE
[18:17] <sigma16> flipstar
[18:17] <sigma16> via terminal
[18:17] <flipstar> yes
[18:17] <sigma16> i know the program name
[18:17] <sigma16> i just dont know where
[18:17] <sigma16> its located
[18:17] <sigma16> when i install stuff via adept...
[18:17] <flipstar> then type locate <name>
[18:17] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ ./flashplayer-installer
[18:17] <smeril> bash: smeril@smeril-laptop:~$: kommandot hittades inte
[18:17] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ bash: ./flashplayer-installer: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[18:17] <smeril> bash: bash:: kommandot hittades inte
[18:17] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ smeril@smeril-laptop:~$
[18:18] <flipstar> sigma16: you want to search for a packet ?
[18:18] <djdarkman> smeril: chmod +x http://darknet2.eof.hu/Snapshots/
[18:18] <BluesKaj> smeril , Read Above PLS!
[18:18] <djdarkman> ohhh
[18:18] <sigma16> i installed mysql admin
[18:18] <sigma16> mysql-admin
[18:18] <flipstar> okay..
[18:18] <BluesKaj> gawwwd help me !
[18:18] <sigma16> but how do i make a desktop shortcut
[18:18] <sigma16> for it?
[18:18] <djdarkman> smeril: I meant chmod +x flashplayer-installer
[18:18] <sigma16> i did run cmd
[18:18] <sigma16> to open it
[18:19] <BluesKaj> ok , i'm outta here ...too many cooks!
[18:19] <flipstar> right click on desktop then create new..shortcut or similar sigma16
[18:19] <LockesRabb> anyone know how i can either lock or hide a folder?
[18:19] <flipstar> hrhr cya BluesKaj
[18:19] <flipstar> LockesRabb: just edit permissions
[18:19] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ chmod +x flashplayer-installer
[18:19] <smeril> chmod: kan inte komma åt "flashplayer-installer": Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[18:19] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$
[18:20] <flipstar> hide it with a dot before the name LockesRabb
[18:20] <flipstar> smeril ..
[18:20] <LockesRabb> tried the dot before the name, it's still visible
[18:20] <flipstar> cd to the flash player installer ..
[18:21] <Dragonatha> how do I start .x11 files?
[18:21] <flipstar> maybe you have enabled view hidden files in filebrowser ?
[18:21] <slyboots> Anyone any idea?
[18:22] <djdarkman> smeril: that means you didn`t download the flashplayer from adobe
[18:22] <flipstar> no  .. slyboots you have hotkey-setup installed ?
[18:22] <smeril> i did
[18:23] <djdarkman> smeril: did you unpack it?
[18:23] <flipstar> he just isnt in the right dir ..
[18:23] <slyboots> flipstar, According to apt.. Yes.
[18:23] <smeril> yes to home
[18:23] <flipstar> but the flashplayer is not in home smeril
[18:23] <djdarkman> smeril: type ls | grep flash
[18:23] <djdarkman> and paste me the output
[18:24] <flipstar> there will be no
[18:24] <LockesRabb> flipstar, thanks, i went in terminal, added dot to it, now it's not visible in either gui or terminal (unless i use ls -a)
[18:24] <LockesRabb> which is the point, i don't want the folder to be easily seen, thats all
[18:24] <LockesRabb> appreciate the help
[18:24] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$ http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[18:24] <smeril> bash: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[18:24] <smeril> smeril@smeril-laptop:~$
[18:24] <slyboots> So doe sthis hotkey-setup have a configuration program I can run or.. ?
[18:25] <LockesRabb> flipstar, in case you missed it, thanks for your help.
[18:25] <grul> maybe khotkey
[18:25] <grul> or khotkeys
[18:25] <flipstar> i didnt missed LockesRabb
[18:25] <flipstar> np
[18:25] <slyboots> grul, Nope, no such progarms
[18:26] <grul> :(
[18:26] <djdarkman> smeril: that`s not what I wrote
[18:27] <smeril> you wrote  chmod +x flashplayer-installer but terminal translated that to that adress
[18:27] <[Hazz]> Hi
[18:27] <djdarkman> smeril: type these commands in the order I write them to you pleaase:
[18:27] <djdarkman> wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[18:28] <djdarkman> tar xvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[18:28] <slyboots> Damn this is annoying..
[18:29] <[Hazz]> Can anyone help me. Im using kubuntu 7.10, and I whant to install realplayer but i dont know how to install it
[18:29] <djdarkman> cd install_flash_player_9_linux/
[18:29] <djdarkman> ./flashplayer-installer
[18:29] <flipstar> real | [Hazz]
[18:29] <flipstar> !real | [Hazz]
[18:29] <ubotu> [Hazz]: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:29] <[Hazz]> yeah realplayer
[18:29] <[Hazz]> ok
[18:31] <flipstar> slyboots: hotkey-setup --configure isnt working ?
[18:31] <flipstar> You might try installing xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config ..
[18:31] <slyboots> "hotkey-setup" : command not found
[18:32] <sigma16> 68.37.97.52
[18:32] <sigma16> it works!
[18:33] <sigma16> yo
[18:33] <sigma16> flipstar:  how would i setup a mailserver?
[18:33] <flipstar> !search mailserver just select one..install and read the man
[18:33] <ubotu> Found: ops-#xubuntu-offtopic, themes, ge, browsers, eye candy, recon-#ubuntu-offtopic, tv, flash, editors, swap
[18:34] <flipstar> wtf..
 Found: postfix, mda, smtp, mailprotocols, mua, mta, mail server, mailserver
[18:34] <giuseppe> hi, can you help me about adept-manager^
[18:35] <ta2> i just burnt a Kubuntu 7.10 amd64 disc and i can't get the disc to boot, any ideas?
[18:35] <giuseppe> when I run it appears this voice
[18:35] <giuseppe> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in a terminal as root and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[18:35] <blizzzek> hi
[18:35] <flipstar> !adeptfix | giuseppe
[18:36] <ubotu> giuseppe: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:36] <Steinar> anyone that can tell me how to innstall NDISwrapper?
[18:36] <sigma16> flipstar:  how do i configure a domain to go to my site without just doign a redirect or cname thingy/?
[18:36] <flipstar> slyboots: theres a bug report for that .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/134756
[18:37] <slyboots> Im using KDE :P
[18:37] <ta2> anyone know?
[18:37] <giuseppe> ubotu: I tried, but nothing
[18:37] <slyboots> And thats not the bug at all..
[18:38] <flipstar> giuseppe: "Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in a terminal as root and see if it helps to resolve the problem." did you try that
[18:39] <hoglund> I need help with installing realplayer, on my Kubuntu 7.10 how can i install realplayer
[18:39] <giuseppe> ubotu: yes, I already tried it, but nothing
[18:39] <flipstar> slyboots: right..maybe you want to check out this http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/12/brightness-buttons-in-lenovo-thinkpad.html
[18:40] <giuseppe> ubotu: wit apt-setup appears: command not found
[18:41] <flipstar> giuseppe: what did you do ?
[18:41] <giuseppe> flipstar: what do u mean?
[18:41] <flipstar> before this error appeared
[18:42] <slyboots> Right, did.. nothign at all
[18:42] <slyboots> Those scripts work though because brightness works in gnome
[18:42] <giuseppe> well, I don't know exactly, last time I used it, I installed tetris
[18:43] <flipstar> slyboots: you have an lenevo ?
[18:43] <flipstar> giuseppe: maybe you can try sudo apt-get install -f
[18:44] <slyboots> flatface, Aye, Lenovo R61
[18:44] <giuseppe> this is the answer:
[18:44] <giuseppe> E: Impossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:44] <giuseppe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:45] <flipstar> slyboots: then read the comments ;)
[18:45] <flipstar> giuseppe: is adept or synaptic open ?
[18:46] <slyboots> I did, did not find much help
[18:46] <giuseppe> flipstar: adept
[18:46] <flipstar> slyboots: even this.. ? http://vntutor.blogspot.com/2007/12/brightness-buttons-in-lenovo-thinkpad.html#comment-5177514569101085401
[18:46] <slyboots> Beyond a mention "This hack does not work on a Lenovo R61"
[18:46] <smeril> thanks guys my flashplayer is now working but my sound dosent work
[18:47] <flipstar> further ..
[18:47] <slyboots> What? the example? Yup, tried it
[18:47] <flipstar> oh
[18:47] <flipstar> giuseppe: it CANT working if adept is open
[18:48] <flipstar> just read the error message ..
[18:48] <redbeard1> !version
[18:48] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[18:48] <giuseppe> flipstar: well I try again with sudo apt-get install -f, ok?
[18:49] <flipstar> did you had adept open before ?
[18:49] <slyboots> Ah, Sorry my bad  :P I pasted it in wrong
[18:49] <slyboots> Its working now x.x Thanks flipstar  :)
[18:49] <flipstar> then you dont have to giuseppe
[18:49] <flipstar> great
[18:49] <giuseppe> flipstar: now this is the answer:
[18:49] <giuseppe> E: Il tipo 'http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu' non è riconosciuto alla linea 77 nella lista sorgenti /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:49] <giuseppe> E: La lista dei sorgenti non può essere letta.
[18:50] <redbeard1> w00t I got edgy
[18:50] <flipstar> omg
[18:50] <flipstar> gutsy is up to date ..
[18:50] <redbeard1> I'm thinking about just downloading 7.10 though
[18:50] <redbeard1> and burning it
[18:50] <SlimeyPete> it's usually easier than upgrading, in my experience
[18:50] <SlimeyPete> I always install fresh
[18:50] <redbeard1> this is taking FOREVER
[18:51] <flipstar> yes you would had update to feisty first ..
[18:51] <redbeard1> good lord
[18:51] <redbeard1> ok bbl guys
[18:52] <flipstar> bye
[18:52] <redbeard1> hasta
[18:52] <giuseppe> flipstar: any suggestment
[18:52] <giuseppe> ?
[18:52] <flipstar> sry i dont speak your language..
[18:53] <flipstar> try it in english
[18:55] <giuseppe> flipstar: well, I try to translate
[18:55] <giuseppe> flipstar: E: Impossible obtain lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:55] <giuseppe> flipstar:  and then
[18:56] <flipstar> this comes when you start adept ?
[18:56] <jussi01> !adeptfix | giuseppe
[18:56]  * jussi01 waits...
[18:56] <flipstar> ubotu lags very hard ..
[18:56] <stdin> ubotu: ping
[18:56] <ubotu> giuseppe: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:56] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[18:56] <stdin> !lag | flipstar
[18:56] <ubotu> flipstar: You have lag, I don't have lag
[18:56]  * stdin pets ubotu
[18:57] <flipstar> !botsnack great job ubotu
[18:57] <flipstar> dont youre right about 91ms ..
[18:58] <giuseppe> ubotu: I also tried it, but nothing, when I run adept-manager appears the same message:
[18:58] <flipstar> *damn
[18:58] <adaran> what do i (nvidia card, latest binary driver) need for desktop effects (composite is working) and how do i check whether or not its working ?
[18:58] <stdin> giuseppe: ubotu is a bot
[18:59] <stdin> !compiz | adaran
[18:59] <ubotu> adaran: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:59] <`Zmax`> lol
[19:00] <`Zmax`> we peppì
[19:00] <giuseppe> the message is this one: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in a terminal as root and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
 "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" is great
[19:00] <giuseppe> I click OK and the program ends...
[19:00] <flipstar> you did the adeptfix.. ?
[19:01] <giuseppe> flipstar: what do u mean?
[19:01] <flipstar> did you do the « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » thing ?
[19:02] <giuseppe> flipstar: I run it
[19:02] <surgy> hey red you still there?
[19:02] <giuseppe> flipstar: just done
[19:02] <giuseppe> flipstar: now what I have to do?
[19:03] <flipstar> try open adept now ..
[19:03] <flipstar> surgy: red did left on [2008-01-29 19:52]
[19:04] <giuseppe> flipstar: same problem
[19:04] <stdin> try "sudo apt-get update" see if that throws errors out
[19:04] <giuseppe> it doesn't work
[19:05] <giuseppe> stdin: this is the answer: 'http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu' is not recognized at line 77  in the sorgent list /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:06] <joseluis> Bueno días, disculpen acabo de instalarme mi Kubuntu
[19:06] <flipstar> did you edit that file giuseppe ?
[19:06] <jussi01> !es | joseluis
[19:06] <ubotu> joseluis: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:06] <stdin> giuseppe: then you need to fix that: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[19:06] <giuseppe> flipstar: no
[19:06] <joseluis> gracias
[19:06] <flipstar> seems like you did ..
[19:06] <stdin> giuseppe: you probably just need to add "deb " at the start of line 77
[19:07] <inspire> Hi All!
[19:07] <flipstar> press f11 in kate to see the line number giuseppe
[19:08] <giuseppe> stdin: so I have to add deb?
[19:08] <flipstar> yes
[19:08] <BluesKaj> the cursor position on the line number is shown at the bottom
[19:09] <stdin> giuseppe: so it looks like "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ..."
[19:09] <giuseppe> i try
[19:09] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:09] <giuseppe> stdin: nothing, sa,e error
[19:09] <giuseppe> same error
[19:10] <stdin> paste line 77 here then
[19:10] <flipstar> then replace it with deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu main
[19:11] <giuseppe> here 77 line: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[19:11] <flipstar> thats all ?
[19:11] <giuseppe> yes
[19:11] <flipstar> which distribution are you running ?
[19:11] <flipstar> gutsy ?
[19:11] <giuseppe> 7.10
[19:11] <giuseppe> yes
[19:12] <flipstar> k then make it deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[19:13] <adaran> hmm
[19:13] <flipstar> could work but i dont know you other sources ..
[19:13] <giuseppe> flipstar: you mean I have to sobstitute my 77 line with "deb http://archive"?.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[19:13] <adaran> compiz complains about no whitelisted driver found, if i skip the checks i just get metacity...
[19:14] <flipstar> just add an  gutsy main to line 77 so that it is: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[19:15] <TimS> My panel has crashed.
[19:15] <flipstar> the kicker ?
[19:15] <TimS> What can I do? I can't find it in the proccess explorer
[19:15] <TimS> The kicker yes
[19:15] <TimS> Thats its name, Ill look for than
[19:15] <TimS> that*
[19:15] <flipstar> just run it from alt+f2
[19:15] <flipstar> you also could submit a bugreport ..
[19:16] <flipstar> !bug
[19:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[19:17] <TimS> Thanks flipstar, it crashed when I started it again, but this time, it crashed properly and restarted it itself :P
[19:17] <flipstar> oO
[19:18] <charles> I installed Kubuntu for the first time today - knocks the sox off suse :-)
[19:18] <TimS> And now its working find =]
[19:18] <TimS> charles: Of course =]
[19:18] <adaran> err
[19:18] <adaran> now i have 14+ virtual desktops
[19:18] <flipstar> nice
[19:18] <flipstar> you can adjust in ccsm
[19:18] <flipstar> the compiz config manager ..
[19:19] <giuseppe> stdin: well, now it works, thanks a lot
[19:19] <giuseppe> :)
[19:19] <DreadKnight> so the next kde4 update it tomorow?
[19:19] <charles> Hi TimS - are you an expert?
[19:19] <flipstar> tagging is tommorow
[19:20] <flipstar> release on 6.01
[19:20] <kalib> Dragnslcr, just a release
[19:20] <TimS> charles: Just a user.
[19:20] <TimS> but I might be able to help if you have any problems
[19:20] <TimS> flipstar > me :P
[19:21] <charles> TimS - does that mean a graphics interface user like myself?
[19:21] <kalib> o.O
[19:21] <TimS> I mainly use GUI, but I use CLI when I need to, I am capeable of it, but its not as nice to look at :P
[19:22] <TimS> What is it you need help with
[19:23] <kalib> TimS, like everybody... who likes too see a black screen all the time??
[19:23] <TimS> Indeed.
[19:23] <charles> TimS: no this is my first time on freenode
[19:23] <TimS> Ah, I see.
[19:25] <raylu> kalib, i do :D
[19:25] <charles> TimS: forgive me what is CLI ?
[19:26] <raylu> command-line interface
[19:26] <TimS> Command Line Interface
[19:26] <TimS> Ooh, beat me
[19:26] <raylu> lol
[19:28] <kalib> raylu, well... i don't ... 2008... why should i supposed to be all the time on a black screen? i mean.. at home i wanna be in my X screen...use my programs, and have fun..
[19:28] <kalib> at work..it's ok... almost all the time black screen... servers.. :p
[19:29] <charles> TimS: of course - thanks
[19:32] <raylu> kalib, because the gui limits you in what you can do
[19:32] <raylu> and it tends to fail
[19:33] <kalib> it depends on what u want
[19:33] <raylu> no, it depends on whether you really want it or not :P
[19:34] <kalib> well...for me, AT HOME... i mean...my multimedia files, pictures, emails, games...etc.. works fine
[19:34] <kobe> small question
[19:34] <kobe> how can i easy config sources.list
[19:34] <kobe> or anyone have a good server
[19:36] <kalib> what you mean with " easy config" ?
[19:36] <raylu> kobe, if you want a "good" server, you shouldn't touch the file
[19:36] <kobe> raylu: its messed up
[19:36] <kalib> you can run on konsole: vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:36] <kobe> thats the prob
[19:36] <flipstar> why dont you use adept ?
[19:37] <samuel> I have a question about my wireless network
[19:40] <samuel> If I install a new kernel (that comes with Kubuntu 8.04) how can I reload my driver then?
[19:40] <samuel> I use the rt73 driver from the serialmonkey website
[19:40] <flipstar> you could just modprobe it
[19:40] <samuel> how?
[19:41] <samuel> I have read it somewhere but don´t know where]
[19:41] <samuel> where
[19:41] <kobe> damn now my webbrowser dont work anymore to#
[19:41] <flipstar> when you got that driver just type sudo modprobe <driver>
[19:42] <samuel> So if I upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04 I could just do sudo modprobe rt73?
[19:42] <flipstar> how did you installed the old one ?
[19:42] <flipstar> try this again if it doesnt go alone
[19:43] <flipstar> the new hardy kernel detects many wireless networks ..
[19:43] <PriceChild> !hardy | flipstar
[19:43] <ubotu> flipstar: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:44] <sigma16> yo
[19:44] <samuel> yo
[19:44] <flipstar> what do you want to day me with that PriceChild ?
[19:44] <sigma16> flipstar:  it wont let me copy files to a folder
[19:44] <flipstar> *say
[19:44] <Dalai> anybody here that has played tremulous, and if so was it hard to get working or was it just install and play?
[19:44] <sigma16> i cant put stuff in /var/www/
[19:44] <PriceChild> flipstar, i didn't want to say it, because ubotu just did. Please read it or else hurt its feelings
[19:44] <flipstar> checked permission ?
[19:45] <PriceChild> Dalai, works ootb for me.
[19:45] <Dalai> cool
[19:45] <flipstar> oh thought you wrote that "<PriceChild> !hardy | flipstar"
[19:45] <samuel> @flipstar Kubuntu detects it but my network connection falls 30 minutes or so
[19:45] <PriceChild> flipstar, I did :) And the ! triggers ubotu.
[19:45] <sigma16> is there some reason i cant copy files to /var/www/
[19:45] <flipstar> i know
[19:45] <flipstar> this is why im asking you what you want to say me with that..
[19:47] <sgmidia> oi
[19:48] <kalib> sgmidia, r u brazilian?
[19:48] <Tonren> I installed Compiz-Fusion, but it's not running, and now my Alt + Tab doesn't work.
[19:48] <sigma16> how do i move a file via terminal...
[19:48] <kalib> sigma16, mv file_name destiny
[19:48] <stdin> ^ destination
[19:49] <sgmidia> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:49] <stdin> sgmidia: stop that
[19:49] <Tonren> sigma16: type "mv (file you want to move) (destination)"
[19:49] <Tonren> you can hit "tab" while typing the filenames to have terminal auto-complete th enames
[19:49] <kalib> sgmidia, hi..
[19:49] <val0> !es | sgmidia
[19:49] <ubotu> sgmidia: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:50] <val0> !br | sgmidia
[19:50] <ubotu> sgmidia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:50] <sigma16> ty
[19:50] <sigma16> i need to memorize these cmd's
[19:51] <sigma16> lol
[19:51] <sigma16> i feal embarrased having to ask that :(
[19:51] <stdin> mv = move ;)
[19:51] <sigma16> ok how to edit a file via terminal
[19:51] <stdin> !cli
[19:51] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:51] <kalib> sigma16, that's normal... you need some time to remember it
[19:52] <stdin> sigma16: several ways, nano is probably the easiest
[19:52] <sigma16> sudo nano file
[19:52] <sigma16> ?
[19:52] <stdin> you only need sudo if it's a system file, but yes
[19:55] <kalib> vim file
[19:55] <stdin> son
[19:55] <stdin> *don't
[19:56] <stdin> vim is not for anyone who doesn't already know how to use it
[19:57] <kalib> sorry... it's true.. :/
[20:02] <GoaSkin> hallo... gibt es eine Lösung, um Flash mit dem Konqueror unter Kubuntu nutzen zu können? (im Netz gibts viele Crashberichte und keine Lösung)
[20:03] <stdin> !de
[20:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:03] <kalib> o.O
[20:03] <zsz> what's the most newbie-friendly way to install grub? grub-install doesn't work on live cd
[20:03] <darkalien_> hi
[20:03] <GoaSkin> well... is there a solution to make use of the flashplayer in konqueror without getting a crashlog only?
[20:03] <darkalien_> can you help me with my compiz?
[20:03] <darkalien_> http://www.onlyfree.de/php/pasteservice/show.php?id=5961
[20:04] <kalib> stdin, how did u know the language?
[20:04] <Ayabara> darkalien_: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[20:04] <darkalien_> oki thx
[20:04] <kalib> zsz, did you mount the parttition?
[20:04] <darkalien_> #ubuntu-effects
[20:05] <jussi01> darkalien_:  try: /join #ubuntu-effects
[20:05] <Ayabara> darkalien_: almost there :-)
[20:06] <zsz> kalib: no. I'm actually trying to get grub installed over the phone, the other person has never used linux
[20:06] <darkalien_> its the compiz fusion chat
[20:06] <kalib> oh..that's difficult.. i was doing the same right now.. with a guy from another state... not by phone...but messenger
[20:06] <zsz> kalib: indeed
[20:06] <Ayabara> when I press the volume media keys on my laptop, a gui indication of volume percentage is supposed to pop up. after I changed which volume is master, I no longer get this. anyone know how I can configure this?
[20:07] <ricardo_> join #sexpics
[20:07] <kalib> zsz, try this: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hdY
[20:07] <kalib> after mount the parttition
[20:07] <kalib> ricardo_, o.O
[20:07] <zsz> kalib: will try
[20:07] <kalib> ;]
[20:10] <kalib> zsz, good luck
[20:11] <andreas__> hi all!
[20:12] <kalib> hi
[20:12] <stdin> kalib: because it looked like german
[20:12] <jace_> hello
[20:13] <barun> hello
[20:13] <barun> what's this?
[20:13] <jace_> i got a quick question
[20:13] <andreas__> hi jace! How are thingz going?
[20:13] <barun> what's that?
[20:13] <zsz> jace_: so ask it
[20:13] <barun> who is this
[20:13] <jace_> i was manually adding some themes to my KDM and inthe process i had told adept to reinstall it because one wasnt showing up[
[20:14] <jace_> and now it wont start X at login. i can get to the graphic KDM but end up ahaving to sue the shell to loginand manually start x
[20:14] <andreas__> and i ve just installed ubuntu amd64!
[20:14] <stdin> barun: this is IRC, Internet Relay Chat. you're currently on the freenode network in the #kubuntu channel, a Kubuntu support channel
[20:15] <barun> okey thanks
[20:15] <barun> so how is this all possible?
[20:16] <jace_> am i missing something, do i need to tell the reinstalled KDM to startX
[20:16] <barun> guys do you know something about linux kernels......
[20:16] <Ayabara> shouldn't kmix start by default?
[20:16] <dangspot> hey...I could use some support... my Kubuntus graphics is about as fast as peddling in hoummus
[20:16] <barun> linux internal kernels
[20:16] <andreas__> barun, what you wanna know?
[20:18] <jace_> also does compiz work with KDE4?
[20:18] <Powenr> Hello, I was trying to install Kubuntu , dual boot.  I made free space of around 20 GBs or so , with ext3 / , so then I had ext3, NTFS (for windows) , and then "unusable space" , so I could not figure out a way to make the swap
[20:18] <dangspot> does anyone run kubuntu on laptop w/ intel graphics? i need some help.
[20:18] <raylu> dangspot, i do
[20:18] <raylu> Powenr, you should have let the partitioner do it for you
[20:19] <raylu> the swap space goes in an extended partition
[20:19] <barun> actually i am quit new about linux kernels...
[20:19] <dangspot> raylu: i can't seem to get it to work. the graphics are really, really slow
[20:19] <Powenr> raylu: How ?  It tells me I need to make the swap before I can continue
[20:19] <barun> so will you say me what are the possible source that i can take help of..
[20:19] <andreas__> Powenr you can use live cd it contains gparted
[20:19] <raylu> Powenr, are you choosing manual configuration? there are guided modes, aren't there?
[20:20] <Powenr> I used manual ,yes
[20:20] <flipstar> barun: take a look at this http://www.linux.ie/newusers/beginners-linux-guide/
[20:20] <flipstar> there are also some good (free) linux books aout there..
[20:21] <flipstar> *out
[20:21] <barun> thanks.
[20:22] <barun> hey it was quit basic don't you think so
[20:22] <Powenr> raylu: I couldn't get the guided option I don't think to work.  Should I go in to the live CD and connect here over it ?
[20:22] <Powenr> raylu: So I know what excally is going on
[20:24] <andreas__> Powern of cause you should its easy
[20:24] <flipstar> barun isnt this what you wanted ?
[20:24] <flipstar> you could also check this out http://download.galileo-press.de/openbook/linux/galileocomputing_linux.zip
[20:24] <flipstar> ups he quit
[20:25] <uxi> hi
[20:26] <dangspot> I have this problem... (i think) my opengl is working as it should, i can "spin" the desktop and it's fast and looks rather good. everything else is slow though (e.g. moving the windows, pop-up menus) where do i begin?
[20:28] <Chas> Installed Kubuntu today - can't find the news reader
[20:29] <uxi> i seached all around the net and i didn't find (yet) the answer to my problem.  I insalled Kubunu amd64 7.10  and I have Labtec usb moue and keyboard that works ina very strange way.  Sometims the keys ust don't et rom kbd to the computer and mouse i kind of a semi esponsive too
[20:29] <ru_> Chas: install one via "add/remove programs"
[20:30]  * uxi sees the kbd errors above
[20:30] <KRF> Chas, do you  mean akregator maybe?
[20:31] <Chas> ru: i looked there, but no luck :-(
[20:31] <dangspot> I have tried to "rebuild"(?) xorg to no avail.
[20:31] <uxi> i saw same problems on kubunt forums but no aswers
[20:34] <Chas> KRF: no I mean a news reader for Usenet newsgroups
[20:34] <dangspot> I have an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900". does this mean i'm screwed?
[20:35] <hoglund> anybody here that is using mplayer plugion for firefox?
[20:35] <flipstar> anyone knows if there is something similar to 'Cable Modem Diagnostic' on linux ?
[20:35] <kalib> hoglund, me
[20:36] <Chas> what I want to install is Knode but it is greyed out in "add/remove programs"
 When i Play a video in my browser it looks like a slideshow not lika a video but the sound is ok
 do you know what the problem might be?
[20:37] <KRF> Chas, ugh. dont know. try `sudo apt-get install knode` in terminal
[20:37] <kalib> hoglund, connection speed??
[20:37] <kalib> not exactly your connection...but could be the source to
[20:38] <kalib> hoglund, not sure...just supposing...
[20:38] <Chas> KRF: tnx - will try that
 not a problem have 2 computers, the other one is ok
[20:38] <kalib> oh...i see...
[20:38] <kalib> is it the same firefox version?
 same version as what? as mplayer?
[20:39] <kalib> two computers
 im not a Linux pro =)
[20:39] <kalib> both has the same firefox version?
 hmm im not sure
[20:40] <mau> is there something like netsumbler for linux?
[20:40] <kalib> you can check it...
[20:40] <kalib> type on konsole: firefox --version
[20:40] <kalib> type it on both of it
 ok
[20:41] <kalib> mau, try swscanner ;]
[20:41] <mau> thx
[20:41] <kalib> ;]
 About the computers, my other computer is running XP
[20:43] <kalib> oh..i see..
[20:43] <kalib> wich one is working fine?
 The one that is running XP
[20:44] <kalib> oh..i see..
[20:44] <hoglund> I whant it to work on my Linux computer too
[20:45] <Tonren> Is there a way to selectively open a particular application with a different theme than the current one in kcontrol?
[20:45] <kalib> hoglund, i see...
[20:45] <kalib> hoglund, can you type it on your konsole? --> firefox --version
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> Tonren: there may be a way from the command line
[20:46] <hoglund> Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11
[20:46] <Tonren> nosrednaekim: Any hints?  Can kfmclient do it?
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> Tonren: no
[20:46] <Tonren> Hmm.
 Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11
[20:47] <kalib> hoglund, got it..
[20:47] <kalib> but.. i'm trying to imagine what's your problem...
[20:47] <kalib> cause for me it works ok.. :/
 okok, maby it's some codec or something
[20:48] <kalib> yeah...
[20:48] <kalib> it's possible...
[20:48] <kalib> search on google...
[20:48] <kalib> i can't help you..
[20:49] <kalib> i'm in my job... and going home now
[20:49] <kalib> :/
ok thx anyway
[20:49] <kalib> hoglund, try to install by apt-get the gstream codecs ;]
[20:49] <kalib> take a look at it
[20:49] <kalib> ;]
[20:49] <kalib> take care
I will ty =)
[20:49] <kalib> ok...cu
[20:50] <rysiek|pl> guys, I need to COMPLETELY disable Xinerama in gutsy
[20:50] <rysiek|pl> will:  Option "Xinerama" "off" - work?
[20:50] <rysiek|pl> (in ServerFlags section)
[20:51] <rysiek|pl> and... is it possible it will break anything?
[20:51] <alf_> ciao
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> Tonren: try fromt he command line "konqueror --style <style name>"
[20:55] <Tonren> nosrednaekim: That lets me change the widget style, but not the colorscheme.
[20:56] <nosrednaekim> mmm.... then IDK
[20:56] <Tonren> thanks for tryin to help.
[20:57] <Tonren> Now if only I could figure out why Openoffice.org has no toolbar icons..
[20:58] <snarkster> hi guys
[20:58] <Tonren> sup snarkster
[20:59] <snarkster> sosdd you?
[20:59] <lovre> hi all.
[20:59] <Tonren> ssdj (same @#%@#% different job)
[20:59] <lovre> when i click on an mailto link in firefox, nothing happens. Why is that? And how to fix this? Than
[21:00] <snarkster> need to have thunderbird installed
[21:00] <snarkster> thats how i got it to work
[21:00] <lovre> kmail not working with this?

[21:00] <lovre> ill try
[21:00] <lovre> thanx
[21:00] <snarkster> oh you need to set your apps in settings
[21:00] <lovre> default applications?
[21:01] <snarkster> kmenu> system settings> default apps
[21:01] <lovre> its set to kmail as default for mail, allready
[21:01] <snarkster> can you put a image in konsole?
[21:01] <Ayabara> what's a good app to rip mp3 on kubuntu? I need it to be mp3 cause that's the only compressed format the player in my car accepts
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> Ayabara: K3b, should do it.
[21:02] <snarkster> kaudiocreator
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> Besides, it is included by default...
[21:02] <LockesRabb> hiya
[21:02] <Ayabara> Odd-rationale: is mp3 supported by default? didn't see it
[21:03]  * Ayabara checks again
[21:03] <LockesRabb> desktop icons are missing
[21:03] <LockesRabb> what to do?
[21:03] <Odd-rationale> Ayabara: No, I meant K3B is installed by defualt
[21:03] <Ayabara> Odd-rationale: I know
[21:03] <Ayabara> and I wondered if mp3 in k3b also was :-)
[21:04] <LockesRabb> im using ubuntu, my desktop icons are missing, what to do?
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> Ayabara: I don;t think so. but kubuntu-restricted-extras should do the trick.
[21:04] <Ayabara> Odd-rationale: thanks
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> np
[21:06] <LockesRabb> im using ubuntu, my desktop icons are missing, what to do?
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> LockesRabb: for ubuntu go to #ubuntu
[21:11] <snarkster> you need to install the ubuntu packaage
[21:12] <snarkster> kdesktop
[21:12] <snarkster> or something
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu-desktop?
[21:12] <snarkster> yah i htink so
[21:12] <snarkster> think even.. damn cant type
[21:12] <sigma16> yo i got a problem
[21:12] <sigma16> i got two sound cards
[21:12] <sigma16> one built into my motherboard
[21:12] <sigma16> which is broken
[21:12] <sigma16> and it outputs most of my sound there
[21:13] <sigma16> can any 1 help me?
[21:13] <snarkster> you need to disable it in the bios
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> sigma16: did you try going to #alsa?
[21:13] <snarkster> or that..
[21:13] <sigma16> um
[21:13] <sigma16> for once can u people not send me to some damned other channel...
[21:13] <sigma16> they always send me back here
[21:13] <sigma16> .............
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> heh
[21:14] <sigma16> and then u all ignore me when i come back...
[21:14] <sigma16> >_<
[21:14] <snarkster> i didnt send you anywhere.. turn off the computer turn it back on get into bios and turn it off.
[21:14] <snarkster> sheesh
[21:16] <snarkster> i would really like to find out how much freaking video memory this computer has.
[21:16] <snarkster> does anyone have any idea how to go about that?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> snarkster: BIOS should tell you
[21:16] <snarkster> hmmm it doesnt but let me check again
[21:16] <snarkster> brb
[21:18] <Angelus> guys, what application does kubuntu use for system settings?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: systemsettings
[21:19] <sigma16> quick question how u boot mysql in terminal...
[21:19] <Angelus> nosrednaekim: do you know where i can download it from
[21:19] <sigma16> not why im here but i 4get..
[21:19] <Angelus> ?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: "sudo apt-get install systemsettings"
[21:20] <Angelus> but i want it on another distro :S
[21:20] <Angelus> i heard it was on kde apps
[21:20] <jpatrick> Angelus: you can apt-get source systemsettings it and build it on the otehr
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> Angelus: ooooor you can use kcontrol
[21:21] <Angelus> yeah but the problem is i dont have kubuntu installed anywhere at the moment
[21:21] <Angelus> and i need it to set my monitor to 60Hz
[21:21] <Angelus> because normal kde is not giving me the 60Hz option :(
[21:21] <flipstar> you have ati or nvidia Angelus ?
[21:22] <Angelus> nvidia
[21:22] <flipstar> then open nvidia-settings
[21:22] <flipstar> there you can modify it
[21:22] <Angelus> hmm
[21:22] <Angelus> i see
[21:23] <boris> 0o0o ko praite we :D
[21:23] <flipstar> !bg | boris
[21:23] <ubotu> boris: опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[21:24] <flipstar> snarkster: just type free into konsole
[21:24] <Angelus> guys maybe you know...
[21:24] <Angelus> where should the size of the monitor be changed from? the Hz or the monitor's button?
[21:24] <BobSapp> hey there, does anyone know the root password for the kubuntu7.10 live cd?
[21:24] <snarkster> yah the bios doesnt show the amount of ram
[21:25] <flipstar> just type free snarkster
[21:25] <snarkster> there is no root password
[21:25] <snarkster> video ram
[21:25] <flipstar> oh
[21:25] <flipstar> nvidia or ati ?
[21:25] <jpatrick> BobSapp: should be "ubuntu"
[21:25] <miladen> is it possible to get a Windows Theme??
[21:26] <BobSapp> wierd
[21:26] <raylu> miladen, redmond
[21:26] <flipstar> !root | BobSapp
[21:26] <ubotu> BobSapp: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:26] <BobSapp> I cant su to root account, but i can do sudo screen
[21:26] <BobSapp> ty lol
[21:26] <flipstar> su root just wont work
[21:26] <flipstar> try sudo -s
[21:26] <tim_> can some 1 help me make my sound work
[21:26] <tim_> none of it will play
[21:26] <raylu> hint: sudo passwd, su
[21:27] <BobSapp> thanks guise
[21:27] <tim_> please?
[21:28] <raylu> tim_, you're going to have to be more specific
[21:28] <flipstar> Angelus: you can change size via 'Resolution' the hz option is right to this option
[21:28] <tim_> um
[21:28] <tim_> no sound plays
[21:28] <tim_> for anything
[21:28] <flipstar> what did you do ?
[21:28] <tim_> even if sound is up all the way
[21:28] <tim_> nothing
[21:28] <tim_> its been like this
[21:28] <flipstar> wired
[21:28] <TimS> Open kMix and check they are all up in there
[21:28] <flipstar> !sound | tim_
[21:28] <ubotu> tim_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:29] <jpatrick> !supportroot | raylu
[21:29] <ubotu> raylu: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[21:29] <tim_> yes
[21:29] <TimS> Usually, for me, sound doesn't work because kMix has been resset to 0 for some of them
[21:29] <TimS> Odd.
[21:30] <flipstar> yes did you checked this.. tim_
[21:30] <hamed> salut a ttes et a tts
[21:30] <TimS> If you play a song in say amarok, what happens, does it play normally, or does it change the song very quickly
[21:30] <raylu> jpatrick, i saw that coming :(
[21:31] <Angelus> flipstar: i didnt understand?
[21:31] <Angelus> :/
[21:31] <jpatrick> raylu: hehe :D
[21:31] <raylu> but i also don't believe in holding back information
[21:31] <raylu> there are plenty of warnings about using root, and it's not my fault nor responsibility if they do not heed them
[21:31] <flipstar> in nvidia-setting i mean under X Server Display Configuration Angelus
[21:32] <BobSapp> funny thing is I hardly use root in ubuntu
[21:32] <BobSapp> if ever
[21:32] <Angelus> flipstar: what i wanted to know is, whats the correct way to resize the picture of the monitor, by changing the Hz or by resizing from the buttons?
[21:33] <flipstar> from which buttons ?
[21:33] <flipstar> size is correlated to Resolution
[21:33] <Ayabara> !MP3
[21:33] <flipstar> hz is correlated to Resolution
[21:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:33] <raylu> refresh rate has nothing to do with the size of the picture
[21:33] <BobSapp> well
[21:34] <tim_>  flipstar sound system rebooting
[21:34] <tim_> flipstar: kk
[21:34] <BobSapp> sometimes a screen doesnt support larger res at the same ref rate
[21:34] <tim_> flipstar:  im rebooting sound system
[21:34] <BobSapp> or is it the card im not sure
[21:34] <flipstar> its the monitor, youre right BobSapp
[21:35] <tim_> flipstar:  im rebooting sound system
[21:35] <flipstar> great
[21:35] <tim_> 65%
[21:35] <BobSapp> I cant wait to get kde 4 working
[21:36] <Ayabara> how do I turn off the friggin system beep for good? I almost lost my hearing now
[21:36] <flipstar> stable release will be soon
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: its in the sound system settings
[21:37] <Angelus> flipstar: what i wanted to mean is, if i set my monitor to 50Hz , and the picture is smaller then my monitors frame, so i have black lines at the side, what should i do? change to 60Hz for example or resiza it form the monitor's menu?
[21:37] <flipstar> option b resize screen
[21:38] <BobSapp> Go with b your eyes will thank you :)
[21:38] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I thought I had turned it off there, but it still _beeped_. turned off all system notification sounds
[21:38] <Ayabara> hope that fixes it
[21:39] <Angelus> hmm
[21:39] <Angelus> ok
[21:39] <Angelus> i also heard that choosing a higher Hz then the monitor supports can kill the monitor, is it true?
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> not if its a LCD
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> otherwise.. yes
[21:40] <Angelus> i see
[21:40] <flipstar> might be possible but it shouldnt be possible anyway
[21:41] <sum_> nabend ;)
[21:41] <BobSapp> But if the res is too high chances are the screen will be garbled and you   wont see anything anyway
[21:41] <Angelus> last question , whats the Best Hz to choose? for eyes' and picture as average?
[21:41] <BobSapp> most modern monitors will tell you if youve set it a refresh rate out of range
[21:41] <sum_> sry
[21:41] <sum_> #exit
[21:42] <BobSapp> Angelus: more is better. 50hz will be annoying very soon, 60 is bearable.  120 is heaven
[21:42] <flipstar> as high as possible
[21:42] <Angelus> whats the difference?
[21:42] <Angelus> better picture?
[21:42] <BobSapp> comfort
[21:42] <flipstar> you'll get a slight flicker else
[21:42] <BobSapp> less eye strain with higher refresh rate
[21:42] <Angelus> hmm
[21:42] <Angelus> i see
[21:43] <flipstar> become headache after long time working and staff
[21:43] <BobSapp> yep.
[21:43] <Angelus> so if i have the label on my monitor that says 50/60Hz it wont damage it if i choose 75  for example?
[21:43] <BobSapp> oh i have that on my monitor too
[21:44] <BobSapp> i think that refers to the power input not necesarrily the screen refresh rate
[21:44] <BobSapp> 100-240VAC,50/60Hz, 2A?
[21:44] <flipstar> yes but then you would in most case not be able to set it to more than 50/60
[21:45] <Angelus> well the max i have in nvidia-settings is 75
[21:45] <Angelus> but now i have black borders in my monitor, the picture became smaller
[21:45] <flipstar> since you changed the hz ?
[21:45] <Angelus> so the right way is to resize it from the monitors menu and not changing back to a smaller rate right?
[21:46] <BobSapp> how big are the black borders(they shouldnt be too large)
[21:46] <Angelus> not too large
[21:46] <BobSapp> less than an inch?
[21:46] <Angelus> yeah
[21:47] <BobSapp> sounds like you just need to reposition your screens settings to me
[21:47] <BobSapp> you didnt change resolution?
[21:48] <Angelus> but i used to fix that by changing the refresh rate, i didnt know that the correct way to fix those borders was to resize the picture from the monitor's menu, i used to think the the refresh rate was for the picture size lol
[21:48] <BobSapp> nope.
[21:48] <BobSapp> sometimes when you change the resolution, the screen borders need adjusting
[21:48] <flipstar> damn where do i get net-snmp-config.h from? just get these messages.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53986/
[21:49] <BobSapp> but some resolutions arent availiable at certain refresh rates
[21:49] <Angelus> yeah BobSapp ,. but i used to think that the way to adjust it was to change the refresh rate lol
[21:49] <BobSapp> so probably you chose a higher refresh rate that reduced resolution, making a resolution change, that caused the borders to need realignment
[21:49] <BobSapp> now you know!
[21:50] <LinuX-Man1ak> where are you from :))
[21:50] <Angelus> yeah hopefully
[21:50] <flipstar> i would appreciate any tipps ..
[21:51] <Angelus> well but i do have another problem BobSapp , i chose 75Hz fron nvidia-settings, but somehow kde is still showing that im using 52Hz, which should i believe?
[21:51] <BobSapp> does your screen menu show the current refresh rate?
[21:51] <flipstar> did you closed and reopend that kde app ?
[21:51] <nonhorifugio> where is kubuntu ita???
[21:51] <BobSapp> mine does
[21:52] <nonhorifugio> room
[21:52] <flipstar> !it | nonhorifugio
[21:52] <ubotu> nonhorifugio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:52] <LinuX-Man1ak> is there a kubuntu forums like ubuntuforums.org ?
[21:52] <BobSapp> Angelus: what does your screen tell you on its menu?
[21:52] <Angelus> hmm
[21:52] <Angelus> in the middle of the menu there is
[21:53] <Angelus> H: 60. 0KHz and V: 74.9 Hz
[21:53] <Angelus> so i think it is using 75 Hz
[21:53] <BobSapp> sounds like ur at 75 hz then
[21:53] <BobSapp> yeah
[21:53] <flipstar> 74.9 ;)
[21:53] <BobSapp> mine is at 60hz on the right
[21:53] <flipstar> got 85
[21:53] <LinuX-Man1ak> mine's 85 :D
[21:53] <BobSapp> lol nice
[21:53] <BobSapp> im using twinview so i cant go that high on both screens
[21:53] <Angelus> then why the hell is kde showing that im using 52?
[21:53] <Angelus> O-o
[21:53] <BobSapp> stale/old settings?
[21:54] <Angelus> what? :o
[21:54] <BobSapp> probably it will reflect the changes once you restart x by logging in/out
[21:54] <Angelus> i dunno
[21:54] <Angelus> lemme try
[21:54] <Angelus> brb
[21:54] <flipstar> hm he forgot to save those settings ..
[21:54] <BobSapp> lol
[21:55] <BobSapp> probably if he was using nvidia settings
[21:55] <BobSapp> he just   clicked apply
[21:55] <BobSapp> maybe
[21:56] <uxi> ok, what do i need to do in kubuntu to be able to run # make menuconfig      it fails ugly
[21:57] <BobSapp> well ima go have a bath while this installs lol
[21:58] <donah> hi all. I'm looking for help with ltsp on a kubuntu server...
[21:58] <LinuX-Man1ak> so.... is there something like kubuntu forums ??
[21:59] <tekteen> You could ask the question here or on the ubuntu fourms
[21:59] <Angelus> im back
[21:59] <Angelus> 85Hz became available
[21:59] <Angelus> and i chose it
[21:59] <Angelus> restarted X
[22:00] <Angelus> kde is still saying 50Hz O_o
[22:00] <LinuX-Man1ak> i wasnt reading ... are you using nvidia card ?
[22:00] <Angelus> yeah
[22:00] <snarkster> LinuX-Man1ak: yes there is a kubuntu forum
[22:01] <LinuX-Man1ak> @Angelus, look this post
[22:01] <LinuX-Man1ak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3878483&postcount=4
[22:01] <LinuX-Man1ak> it's on ubuntu but it's going to fix it
[22:02] <LinuX-Man1ak> @snarkster: can you give me a link ?
[22:02] <LinuX-Man1ak> sorry for my bad english ;]
[22:02] <val0> what shell does ubuntu come with stock?
[22:03] <Angelus> ah
[22:03] <tekteen> val0: bash?
[22:03] <Angelus> so its Dynamic Twinview that makes kde report bad refresh rates
[22:03] <Angelus> !!!!!!!!!!
[22:03] <tekteen> Is that your question?
[22:04] <LinuX-Man1ak> yep :)
[22:04] <val0> tekteen: that's what i thought :S
[22:04] <val0> tekteen: just argueing with someone :D
[22:04] <tekteen> val0: ok
[22:04] <tekteen> :-D
[22:04] <Angelus> what is twinview anyway?
[22:04] <flipstar> anyone knows something about net-snmp ? im getting this error messages ...... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53986/
[22:05] <LinuX-Man1ak> i have to idea :D
[22:05] <LinuX-Man1ak> no*
[22:05] <val0> tekteen: how've you been? i miss that guy who was on here for two days straight asking questions like there is no tomorrow
[22:05] <tekteen> lol
[22:05] <tekteen> good
[22:05] <tekteen> lets go to ot
[22:06] <flipstar> hm
[22:06] <val0> k
[22:08] <LinuX-Man1ak> i'm going to sleep. good night
[22:08] <LinuX-Man1ak> :)
[22:09] <Dalai> nighty
[22:11] <snarkster> im out to play with wine.. ttyl
[22:11] <Angelus> i discovered the max refresh rate of my monitor was 85hz , cause when i tried 87 its started to flicker
[22:12] <flipstar> oO
[22:12] <Angelus> but anyways thanks for the lesson BobSapp[afk] and flipstar
[22:12] <trojan_> Hello
[22:12] <trojan_> Who can tell how to install my Wifi driver
[22:13] <trojan_> it is a Broadban 1390
[22:14] <justin__> hi all
[22:16] <vege> if someone has a few minutes spare
[22:16] <vege> I need some help to install punkbuster updates to a game
[22:16] <vege> unsure how =P
[22:17] <Dalai> hmm what program should i use to install a file that is in x86.run format
[22:18] <BobSapp[afk]> congats Angelus
[22:18] <flipstar> just ./x86.run
[22:18] <flipstar> make it exec-able before ..
[22:18] <vege> flipstar me ol' mate  ; )
[22:18] <justin__> does anyone have any suggestions concerning compiling your own kernel
[22:19] <flipstar> hi vege
[22:19] <jpatrick> !kernel
[22:19] <vege> help me update punkbuster?  needs to be done manually, I have the setup for it
[22:19] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:19] <jpatrick> justin__: there :)^
[22:19] <vege> hi justin
[22:20] <justin__> do you get much better response out of it or is it worthless to compile your own
[22:22] <flipstar> you can build your own modules in .. and make it much smaller
[22:22] <flipstar> costumize it to your hardware ..
[22:24] <vege> I've given the file executable permisssion and have cd to the pb folder, which holds the update
[22:24] <vege> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53989/
[22:24] <vege> it doesn't run
[22:25] <vege> need caffeine, brb 2 min
[22:25] <flipstar> try sh ./<package>
[22:25] <cn28h> How can I set compose/dead keys? I know how to do it in the defauolt KDE configuration programs, but since kubuntu uses that other program to configure KDE I'm looking there.. but I don't see anything about it.
[22:30] <vege> error > ./pbsetup.run: 18: Syntax error: "(" unexpe
[22:30] <BobSapp> cya guys restartin
[22:32] <mkz> I'm trying to establish a pptp connection between my home and work.  I've installed network-manager-pptp and restarted knetwork-manager.  I now have an option in nm titled VPN Connections, but the only option is Disconnect VPN and it's greyed out.  I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy.  What might I be missing?
[22:32] <flipstar> there is no output when you ran ..
[22:33] <flipstar> vege: ..try without sudo
[22:33] <vege> I did, I ran >  vege@ORAC:~/ET/pb$ sh ./pbsetup.run
[22:34] <flipstar> without sh ... >_<
[22:34] <vege> lol
[22:34] <vege> ege@ORAC:~/ET/pb$  ./pbsetup.run
[22:34] <vege> ??
[22:34] <flipstar> yup
[22:34] <mkz> more info: when I enter settings and select VPN connection | add I get a create new CPN connection dialog, but only PPP service is listed and there is a message that no configuration interface has been found.
[22:34] <justin__> how do i compile a program from source.  i tried to d/l a program but they didnt have it for my distro.
[22:34] <vege> result >>  vege@ORAC:~/ET/pb$
[22:35] <flipstar> mkz: you try to etablish an vpn ?
[22:35] <flipstar> !compile | justin__
[22:35] <ubotu> justin__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:36] <flipstar> vege: ..nothing .. ?
[22:37] <vege> nothing
[22:37] <mkz> flipstar: yes. The forums suggest that knetworkmanager has a bug and does not permit me to configure a pptp connection.  It's suggesting that I install nm-applet, but I'm not able to find nm-applet in aptitude...
[22:37] <flipstar> vege: there was no decribtion on the website ?
[22:38] <vege> ok, there's another pf file I will try that one
[22:38] <vege> I may have to go looking for it flipstar
[22:38] <justin__> i did a ./configure and it said that the "c compiler cannot create executables"  any advice on how to fix this
[22:38] <flipstar> yes read that site and install build-essentials
[22:39] <justin__> ok
[22:39] <mkz> build-essential (no s)
[22:40] <flipstar> mkz: but knetworkmanager cant build an vpn connection .. ?
[22:40] <flipstar> use secvpn for that or similar
[22:40] <mkz> flipstar: nope
[22:40] <flipstar> or try network-manager-openvpn
[22:40] <hola> why im not able to share my ppp0 interface with my virtual machine
[22:40] <nuno_> I need some help with compiz fusion
[22:41] <flipstar> hola: is your using vmware ?
[22:41] <flipstar> !compiz | nuno_
[22:41] <ubotu> nuno_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:41] <hola> flipstar: vbox
[22:41] <flipstar> hm dont know that
[22:41] <vege> @flipstar >>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53990/
[22:41] <vege> it's running
[22:41] <flipstar> great
[22:42] <vege> for some reason the newer version was having problems
[22:42] <flipstar> mkz: maybe you got more luck with that extension..
[22:42] <vege> the old one is going
[22:42] <mkz> I will try the network-manager-openvpn (instead of network-manager-pptp) and let you know
[22:42] <flipstar> great
[22:43] <vege> I've been using Linux only 2 days
[22:43] <vege> this is a bit frustrating but fun too
[22:43] <hola> flipstar: it is not important to know a specific tools, the important is to understand how to share a internet connection vitha virtual machine
[22:44] <mkz> vege: it gets better.  And if you are having fun now, just wait... :)
[22:44] <flipstar> you could improve you knowledge by take a look at http://download.galileo-press.de/openbook/linux/galileocomputing_linux.zip ;) vege
[22:44] <vege> your writing in red text to me is private message?
[22:44] <flipstar> yes but in vmware (which i did used some time ago) it was pretty easy
[22:44] <vege> I need to register to pm?
[22:45] <justin__> terminal says i need glib 2.0 development headers what is the package called so apt can go get it
[22:45] <flipstar> no but your name is in there so it is highlighted
[22:45] <flipstar> maybe it is called little bit different justin__
[22:45] <justin__> ok
[22:45] <flipstar> try glib-dev or so
[22:45] <justin__> i am very new at this
[22:45] <justin__> ok
[22:46] <vege> thnx flip, downloading Ark
[22:46] <justin__> that is not it
[22:46] <justin__> hmmmm
[22:46] <flipstar> libglib-dev ?
[22:47] <flipstar> it is libglib2.0-dev
[22:47] <BobSapp> ok ive started my kubuntu install guess what?
[22:47] <justin__> ok
[22:47] <BobSapp> i have black borders on the side of the screen lol
[22:47] <vege> when I installed Kubuntu 7.10 I had to disable my ethernet port
[22:47] <vege> there was a message about security settings
[22:47] <flipstar> BobSapp: wtf oO
[22:48] <vege> how do I know if security is all good now?
[22:48] <BobSapp> but more importantly no boot loader was installed is there a way to setup grub/lilo from kde?
[22:48] <flipstar> !grub | BobSapp
[22:48] <ubotu> BobSapp: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:48] <BobSapp> flipstar: ty
[22:48] <justin__> what about gtk 2 dev headers what is the pkg name
[22:49] <flipstar> try apt-cache search <package_name>
[22:49] <justin__> i dont know the package name
[22:49] <flipstar> yes you do
[22:49] <flipstar> gtk 2 dev
[22:50] <flipstar> its not the exactly name but enough for apt-cache search
[22:51] <flipstar> hm bad example maybe you should type gtk-dev
[22:51] <justin__> no luck
[22:51] <justin__> all i want to do is install pidgin.....
[22:52] <justin__> but i need to learn so...
[22:52] <flipstar> libgtk2.0-dev ..
[22:52] <flipstar> piding rocks once it is installed :)
[22:52] <flipstar> but why dont you install from adept ?
[22:52] <justin__> i want to learn how to compile
[22:53] <flipstar> oh
[22:53] <flipstar> than you also have to learn how to solve depencies ..
[22:53] <justin__> does it have myspace messenger capabilities
[22:54] <justin__> is there a script or prog that will do this automatically
[22:54] <flipstar> yes..
[22:54] <flipstar> adept_manager
[22:54] <justin__> lol
[22:55] <firephoto> justin__: you might try the package from hardy first instead of compiling.
 i want to learn how to compile
[22:55] <vege> could someone please look at this?  >>
[22:55] <vege> give pbweb.x86 chmod +x
[22:55] <vege> I need to chmod that file
[22:56] <vege> not sure how to
[22:56] <flipstar> you got an graphical operating system .. just right click on it ..
[22:56] <D0nMcN> Hey guys, need some help installing Kubuntu. I'm on it right now on Konversation, I setup my partitions on qtparted, and they are correctly made, I am sure of it, althought I am going through the manual mode in installation, and I click next and it gives me this message: "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[22:57] <philipp_> he
[22:57] <philipp_> yhey
[22:57] <BudgetDedicated> you need to define the mountpoint for /
[22:57] <philipp_> hey
[22:57] <philipp_> i use debian
[22:57] <D0nMcN> Can you explain how to do that
[22:57] <D0nMcN> the mount point for the ext3 partition is /media/sda2
[22:58] <vege> right click on it and??
[22:58] <BudgetDedicated> I do not know by heart, but you should select the partition get the options select "use as ext3" and there you can choose the mountpoint
[22:58] <vege> properties?  permissions??
[22:58] <flipstar> property
[22:58] <D0nMcN> okay, set the mount point to /
[22:58] <flipstar> than permissions :)
[22:58] <D0nMcN> ?
[22:58] <BudgetDedicated> yes set to /
[22:58] <vege> can't see any reference to chmod
[22:58] <D0nMcN> oh, thank you
[22:58] <D0nMcN> was set to /media/sda2
[22:58] <D0nMcN> does the swap partition need to be set at a mount point?
[22:59] <flipstar> no
[22:59] <D0nMcN> thanks
[22:59] <flipstar> just as swap
[22:59] <BudgetDedicated> yea because it already existed when you booted up. It will not by default destroy existing partitions
[22:59] <flipstar> filesystem:swap
[22:59] <vege> set all to write?
[22:59] <justin__> after i run ./configure then i run make then makeinstall
[22:59] <justin__> correct??
[22:59] <D0nMcN> yay, it is working now
[22:59] <vege> read, write and exec?
[22:59] <flipstar> no just check exec ..
[22:59] <D0nMcN> thanks a lot guys
[22:59] <BudgetDedicated> good luck D0nMcN
[22:59] <vege> all already checked exec
[23:00] <D0nMcN> thanks, bye for now, i'm sure i'll be here sooner or later again, i'm new to Linux
[23:00] <D0nMcN> lol
[23:00] <flipstar> gl
[23:00] <flipstar> vege: sry what you wanted to do ?
[23:00] <vege> please check here, the solution >>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608466
[23:00]  * D0nMcN waves, "bye!"
[23:00] <eean> is there a way to get the livecd to boot to KDM instead of loading KDE?
[23:00] <justin__> do yall suggest custom compile or adept
[23:01] <flipstar> eean: kdm is the login and session manager kde the windows decorator ..
[23:01] <eean> flipstar: yes, I want the login.
[23:01] <eean> I just want to a XDMCP dumb client livecd, a lot more complicated idea then I though :/
[23:01] <eean> then I thought
[23:02] <flipstar> i think xorg and staff i generated during boot with an live cd .. but i dont know
[23:02] <flipstar> *is
[23:03] <eean> um yea
[23:03] <eean> but the livecd boots a desktop
[23:03] <flipstar> right
[23:03] <hola> someone know how to share ppp0 interface with a virtual machine
[23:03] <eean> I'd have to logout to get kdm
[23:03] <eean> I don't want to do that :)
[23:03] <vege> flip?
[23:04] <flipstar> hm? you are in kdm when you see the desktop
[23:04] <eean> no, no you're not
[23:04] <eean> :|
[23:04] <flipstar> sry i dont want to read that
[23:04] <eean> I'm out
[23:04] <vege> it's very short
[23:04] <flipstar> kdm is the session manager ..
[23:04] <vege> 1 post
[23:04] <vege> 1st post
[23:05] <justin__> this takes a while to make
[23:05] <flipstar> vege: so did you do that ?
[23:05] <vege> I don't know how to
[23:06] <flipstar> you already did that +x
[23:06] <vege> I just copied that pb file into the ET folder
[23:06] <flipstar> (exec)
[23:06] <flipstar> just do it as describet there
[23:06] <vege> I tried to run it but it wasn't in et folder, only in the pb folder
[23:07] <flipstar> you dont have to run
[23:07] <flipstar> just launch the game
[23:07] <vege> sudo ./pbweb.x86 chmod +x
[23:07] <vege> ??
[23:07] <flipstar> you already did that
[23:07] <flipstar> thats what exec is about
[23:07] <flipstar> you checked that right ?
[23:08] <vege> I ran the game and it gives me the violation 200004
[23:08] <flipstar> did you changed permissions ?
[23:08] <vege> yes
[23:08] <flipstar> hmpf
[23:08] <vege> I will run that update from the ET folder too
[23:09] <vege> I ran it from it's default pb folder
[23:09] <vege> it's running now
[23:10] <vege> I know I manually changed permissions on that file
[23:10] <vege> please tell what is the console command to do that
[23:10] <justin__> can i use pidgin with kde??
[23:11] <tim_> yo
[23:11] <Flare183> justin__: yeap
[23:11] <tim_> can some 1 help me my sound doesnt work
[23:11] <tim_> and idk why
[23:11] <Flare183> justin__: kopete is prefered
[23:11] <justin__> i compiled and installed it then went to the menu and clicked it but nothing happened
[23:12] <justin__> kopete doesnt support myspace messenger
[23:12] <flipstar> try it in a console ..there you have more output
[23:12] <ppibburr> justin__ try it from the the command line
[23:12] <hola> someone know how to share ppp0 interface with a virtual machine
[23:12] <justin__> type pidgin??
[23:12] <ppibburr> yup
[23:12] <vege> I'm a reboot
[23:12] <tim_> flipstar:  can u help me with my sound issue
[23:12] <Marcin> hallo, kann ich mit einem nicht installiertem kubuntu eine festplatte fromatieren, auf der windows ist
[23:13] <justin__> this is the output pidgin: error while loading shared libraries: libpurple.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:13] <flipstar> tim_: you checked kmix ?
[23:13] <flipstar> !de | Marcin
[23:13] <ubotu> Marcin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:13] <tim_> yea i put the stuff up if it wasnt
[23:13] <tim_> kmix is up all the way...
[23:13] <flipstar> did it ever worked ?
[23:14] <tim_> it did
[23:14] <tim_> one day
[23:14] <justin__> can someone help
[23:14] <tim_> and idk why it stoped
[23:14] <justin__> this is what the terminal output said pidgin: error while loading shared libraries: libpurple.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:15] <Marcin> flipstar
[23:15] <flipstar> what ?
[23:15] <Marcin> can i formate a hdd with a non installed kubuntu?
[23:15] <Marcin> on the hdd is windows
[23:15] <flipstar> win is ntfs..so it isnt recomment
[23:15] <ppibburr> non installeD? live?
[23:15] <flipstar> why dont using windows cd ?
[23:15] <Marcin> dont know how :(
[23:16] <Marcin> yeah, i mean live
[23:16] <flipstar> tim_: what is idk ?
[23:16] <SoopaDoopaFAI> ntm
[23:16] <tim_> flipstar:  i dont know
[23:16] <flipstar> oh
[23:16] <tim_> flipstar:  it used ot do the sounds on boot etc
[23:16] <chris__> How can I get Flash working with Konqueror?  (64bit)
[23:16] <Marcin> i want to formate the hdd and than use it as second hdd
[23:16] <flipstar> !flash | chris__
[23:16] <ubotu> chris__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[23:16] <ppibburr> reinstall as 32bit
[23:17] <flipstar> so it just worked one day ....... oO tim_
[23:17] <tim_> flipstar:  ive had linux for 3 days and sound worked for one day
[23:17] <chris__> flipstar: Flashplugin-nonfree package is broken, also it wouldn't download via Konqueror
[23:17] <chris__> And I'm not going to reinstall a 32-bit operating system.
[23:17] <chris__> When I Have a 64bit
[23:18] <miladen> how do i unrar an archive with password?
[23:18] <flipstar> Marcin: if you want to format then this is easily
[23:18] <vege> still getting that punkbuster error message  =(
[23:18] <flipstar> miladen: using unrar or file-roller
[23:18] <miladen> unrar mosfv.part1.rar password?
[23:18] <flipstar> no
[23:19] <flipstar> without
[23:19] <miladen> what then?
[23:19] <flipstar> you have to enter later
[23:19] <tim_> flipstar: http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=205&product=14103
[23:19] <miladen> ok thx
[23:19] <miladen> doesnt work
[23:19] <flipstar> what..?
[23:19] <miladen> unrar mosfv.part1.rar doesnt work
[23:19] <flipstar> any msg ?
[23:19] <flipstar> oh yes.. unrar e of xourse
[23:19] <miladen> just shows all unrar commands
[23:19] <miladen> ok
[23:21] <tim_> flipstar:  any ideas?
[23:21] <chris__> Where can I find the wallpapers used in KDE 4?
[23:21] <flipstar> so theres nothing muted in 'alsamixer' ?
[23:21] <tim_> i jsut downloaded a package to help with sound drivers
[23:21] <tim_> i think
[23:22] <tim_> but do i gotta reboot to get them to work??
[23:23] <flipstar> you could restart that sound server
[23:23] <flipstar> does sudo asoundconf list detect your card ?
[23:23] <tim_> flipstar:  how
[23:23] <flipstar> systemsettings->advanced->services
[23:24] <tim_> flipstar:  yes
[23:25] <tim_> flipstar:  what am i lookinf for on system servies
[23:26] <flipstar> dont know maybe esd or something with sound .......
[23:26] <chris__> Does anyone have a source that has KDE 4 SVN?
[23:26] <chris__> that automaticly updates weekly?
[23:26] <chris__> I want the bleeding edge KDE 4.
[23:26] <flipstar> 4.0.1 will be released soon
[23:26] <chris__> when?
[23:26] <flipstar> 6.01
[23:27] <g2g591> chris__: just do an svn checkout yourself
[23:27] <flipstar> tagging is tomorrow
[23:27] <chris__> That's quite a ways off.
[23:27] <chris__> I don't know how to do svn checkouts.
[23:27] <flipstar> svc -co ...
[23:27] <flipstar> *svn
[23:27] <g2g591> chris__: svn co blablah
[23:27] <g2g591> chris__: ill give you a link
[23:28] <tim_> flipstar:  cant find it
[23:28] <flipstar> nothing with sound ?
[23:28] <chris__> I want the full KDE 4.x experience from SVN, how do I know what files to do?
[23:28] <g2g591> chris__: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[23:29] <justin_> anyone know anything about the wusb54g drivers and toshiba specific pathces
[23:32] <justin_> anyone know anything about the linksys wusb54g network adapter
[23:33] <D0nMcN> Hey guys, just got Kubuntu 7.10 installed, and its working perfectly :)
[23:33] <D0nMcN> Now, can you tell me something: I want to share files between Windows and Kubuntu on another partition on my single drive, what filesystem would I use? FAT32?
[23:34] <chris__> For the Server or your own PC?
[23:34] <D0nMcN> My own PC
[23:34] <sigma16> ok
[23:34] <sigma16> flipstar:  no luck
[23:34] <D0nMcN> I have 3 partitions already
[23:34] <sigma16> flipstar:  i cant get my sound to work >_<
[23:34] <sigma16> flipstar:  i did restart it
[23:35] <flipstar> your onboard soundcard is disabled ?
[23:36] <D0nMcN> How can I get to where my devices are listed?
[23:36] <sigma16> flipstar:  yes my broken onboard one is disabled
[23:36] <marx2k> Hm, doesnt look  like KDE4 is in my Session Options anymore
[23:36] <marx2k> wtd
[23:36] <flipstar> sudo fdisk -l or systemsetting>advanced>harddrive
[23:37] <marx2k> wtf
[23:38] <sigma16> ??????????????????
[23:38] <sigma16> flipstar: ????
[23:38] <flipstar> what ?
[23:38] <sigma16> help?:(
[23:38] <flipstar> did you tried google ?
[23:39] <sigma16> no help
[23:39] <sigma16> it says my sound card is supported
[23:39] <sigma16> dats all i got
[23:39] <sigma16> google doesnt like me
[23:39] <flipstar> oO
[23:39] <flipstar> http://www.google.de/search?q=soundblaster+no+sound+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a
[23:39] <flipstar> try this
[23:39] <sigma16> in english?
[23:40] <flipstar> it is
[23:40] <sigma16> how to get rid of digital out?
[23:41] <flipstar> via kmix or alsamixer
[23:41] <sigma16> no duh but where
[23:42] <flipstar> kmix>rightclick>select volumethings>switches
[23:43] <sigma16> i dont have that...
[23:44] <adrock358> HEY.  what's the best DVD burning software out there?
[23:44] <flipstar> k3b no clue
[23:45] <adrock358> how about for windows>?
[23:45] <flipstar> for what ?
[23:45] <adrock358> i'm in a media lab now and only have my live cd
[23:45] <adrock358> ...yes...i know...i'm sorry
[23:45] <adrock358> the media center ahs a class
[23:45] <adrock358> is there anything decent for windows?
[23:46] <flipstar> ..nero is great
[23:46] <Dr_willis> adrock358,   You are meaning softeare to take video files and make a dvd-video disk?
[23:46] <adrock358> wr....yes
[23:46] <adrock358> sopranos season 1
[23:46] <Dr_willis> People often over look that technicially thats not 'burning' :)  thats video conversion
[23:46] <Dr_willis> !find devd
[23:46] <ubotu> File devd found in udev
[23:46] <adrock358> for windows bro
[23:47] <Dr_willis> nero does it as a 2 step process also.
[23:47] <adrock358> i'll do nero.  thank you!
[23:47] <Dr_willis> !info devede
[23:47] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[23:47] <adrock358> good one
[23:47] <Dr_willis> That one can do it. But it depends on what you want to do.
[23:47] <Dr_willis> The Devil is in the details.
[23:47] <flipstar> tolate
[23:47] <D0nMcN> Is there a way I can run DirectX 8 programs on Kubuntu 7.10?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> I still havent gotten my $50 mail in rebate from Nero
[23:48] <flipstar> try cadega
[23:48] <Dr_willis> wine supports DX8 i belive
[23:48] <Dr_willis> and cedega
[23:48] <D0nMcN> are they both free?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> !wine
[23:48] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:48] <flipstar> cadega not
[23:48] <Dr_willis> cedega is comercial. its a enhanced wine.
[23:48] <wzmocniony> Ãîñïîäà, êàêîé êîìïèëÿòîð C++ äëÿ NetBeans ïîäîéä¸ò ?
[23:48] <Dr_willis> Check that app database for your game to see how well wine supporta it
[23:48] <bipolar> D0nMcN: Wine is. and it's good enough to run quite a few games. I use it to play WoW every damn day :P
[23:49] <PriceChild> !en | wzmocniony
[23:49] <ubotu> wzmocniony: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:49] <D0nMcN> I'm looking to play a game called There which requires DirectX 8
[23:49] <D0nMcN> and my Windows supports it fine
[23:49] <bipolar> << WoW addict.. pitty me...
[23:49] <wzmocniony> PriceChild | ru
[23:49] <bipolar> D0nMcN: unless it's listed in the Wine compatibility list, the only way to know is to try installing it.
[23:49] <PriceChild> wzmocniony, /join #ubuntu-ru
[23:50] <wzmocniony> PriceChild | thnx
[23:50] <sigma16> flip
[23:50] <D0nMcN> can you tell me where the wine compatibility list is?
[23:50] <bascule> winhq.org
[23:50] <bipolar> D0nMcN: go to winehq.org, there is a link to it there
[23:51] <bipolar> D0nMcN: and don't use the version of Wine thats in the ubuntu repo, on winehq.org there is a doc on how to get the latest version.
[23:51] <adrock358> Dr_willis.  can you split torrents into different parts?
[23:51] <sigma16> flipstar:  i pmed u
[23:51] <flipstar> but latest isnt always the best ..
[23:52] <adrock358> flipstar. can you split torrents into different parts?
[23:52] <flipstar> why did you do this sigma16 ?
[23:53] <flipstar> you can select only parts to download .. yes
[23:53] <adrock358> thank you
[23:53] <sigma16> flipstar:  it frustrates me to see what i say blown off the screen when others talk or leave or join...
[23:54] <sigma16> flipstar:  which often leaves me repeating myself 2 or 3 times...
[23:54] <flipstar> dont think no one reads you message
[23:54] <adrock358> sigma16.  relax guy.  it's free chat
[23:54] <adrock358> this help is free.  that means for no money.  thank you to flipstar for even being here.
[23:54] <sigma16> adrock358:  didnt say u couldnt talk just wished to talk in priv cuz im frustrated... i dont like irc in the first place....
[23:54] <flipstar> !repeat > sigma16
[23:55] <mjwild> I get the error
[23:55] <mjwild> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:55] <mjwild>  timidity
[23:55] <sigma16> flipstar: ..... i dont need that....
[23:55] <sigma16> im on that now
[23:55] <sigma16> and thats got me some were else i need help
[23:55] <flipstar> what did you tried mjwild ?
[23:55] <D0nMcN> is there an Internet Explorer for Kubuntu 7.10? the online game I want to play requires it, as it uses it in a lot of things
[23:55] <sigma16> it says im not a priviledged superuser
[23:55] <adrock358> well that's the problme (and i mean no offense.  and I am not trying to be-rate you)
[23:55] <bascule> sigma16: feel free to leave IRC if you don't like it, forum posts don't disappear as fast
[23:56] <flipstar> D0nMcN: you can configure konqueror for acting like ie
[23:56] <mjwild> when i do updaTES IT GIVES ME THAT ERROR
[23:56] <flipstar> also firefox
[23:56] <sigma16> bascule: yea but ur less likely to get help there... forum use is the reason why it took me 6 months to get net on my pc...
[23:56] <sigma16> bascule:  in the end it was my friend i talk to on the net who fixed my net in under 4 hours... when people on the forums couldnt help me for months...
[23:57] <sub[t]rnl> !patience | sigma16
[23:57] <ubotu> sigma16: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:57] <D0nMcN> flipstar: can you tell me how to configure Konqueror to act like IE?
[23:57] <adrock358> flipstar.  thanks for the help guy.  i appreciate it very, very much.  even if other people may not appreciate it as much
[23:57] <bascule> sigma16: in the best possible way, patience is an important factor, no one is the centre of everything
[23:57] <sigma16> bascule is ignored...
[23:57] <flipstar> D0nMcN: settings>browser identify
[23:57] <flipstar> but it just pretends
[23:58] <flipstar> great idea sigma16
[23:58] <sigma16> ?
[23:58] <sigma16> flipstar: what is...
[23:58] <flipstar> sigma16!* auf die Ignorieren-Liste gesetzt.
[23:58] <D0nMcN> flipstar: there is no settings>browser identify
[23:58] <bascule> cool then you won't see me being honest enough to say I can't stand uppity ego-tripping attebtion demanding idiots throwing tantrums cause they don't get a whole IRC chan to stop dead in it's tracks cause they have a feeling
[23:59] <mjwild> flipstar I ran this command and got the error sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:59] <flipstar> uhm setting->configure konqueror->browser identify or similar
[23:59] <Jucato> browser identification
[23:59] <tim_> can some 1 please help me with my sound card?