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cody-somervillehttp://www.mudconnect.com/discuss/discuss.cgi?mode=MSG2&area=promotions&page=1&m00:20
cody-somervilleessage=18937#1907100:20
cody-somervillemischan00:20
y_leeHow do i report a broken link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/00:38
seisenwhats the link?00:41
y_leeon this page00:41
y_leehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx#head-032065f8a5fb6a485a7985ddb3a40262a0629fe500:41
y_leeEven if you're running a version of Ubuntu that includes spca5xx out of the box, you still might not have it and need to install the driver. In that case, the easiest way is to enable the universe repository then follow these [WWW] installation instructions.00:41
y_leethe link is installation instructions00:41
y_leeI've never been able to get my web cam to work and came across this page before00:42
seisenare you talking about this link: http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html00:44
y_leehttp://scottabbey.org/node/1200:45
y_leefound in the troubleshooting section00:45
y_leepage on Spca5xx00:46
y_leeI've also never been able to get gspcav1-20071224.tar.gz to compile but that is a separate issue, lol00:48
seisenI tried to find another link for it but I cant find anything but I will mark it as needing cleaned up00:55
y_leethanks i just wanted to report it, first time i really used this program too00:56
j1mchi all03:32
sommerhello03:33
j1mchi sommer.  i work on xubuntu docs... we currently have the server guide included as part of our docs, but it was just leftover from the gutsy release.  what would you (or others) think about merging over all of the server-related changes into our hardy docs?03:34
j1mcany thoughts?03:34
sommerI think thats usually done before the freeze03:35
sommerI'm not 100% sure of the process though03:35
j1mcyeah... we don't use yelp, tho... we'd have to modify the yelp-specific links.03:35
j1mci if we can manage that, i think it'd be a good idea, though.03:36
sommersure, I don't think there are too many in the Server Guide, maybe 2-503:36
j1mcah, ok.03:36
sommerI'd guess you'd just do a bzr merge between the two?03:36
j1mci'm not sure... we'd have to bzr merge specific folders.03:37
j1mcbc the server guide is just part of the ubuntu-hardy branch.03:37
sommermdke: is probably more knowledgeable that I am about the merge process between the different repos03:38
sommerI'd think you can just merge the generic/server/C folder03:39
j1mccool.  thanks, sommer03:39
j1mcwhat is your name on the mailing list?03:39
sommerasommer70 at gmail.com03:39
sommerAdam Sommer is my full name, if that's what you were looking for :-)03:40
j1mccool... i've seen your posts ... i think you close with a funny saying.  :)03:41
sommerheh... Waynes World is the greatest!!!03:42
j1mci used to live in aurora, IL.  home of wayne's world.03:45
sommersweet, that's awesome03:46
sommerwe need coffee and krulers stat!03:46
j1mcsorry, phone... i haven't seen that movie in a long time, but it's fun.03:55
j1mci'm jim campbell on the ML, btw.  i don't post that often... just mostly stuff about xubuntu.03:56
j1mci follow the threads, though.03:56
sommercool, have any opinions on the tag styling thread?03:57
sommeras in where to use <command>, <userinput>, <programlisting>, <computeroutput>03:57
sommerthey may be unique to the Server Guide or cli sections, now that I think about it03:58
j1mci probably won't have any opinions on it (i'm still somewhat of a docbook noob, but i'm passable for what i do, i suppose), but i'll have a look.04:00
j1mc:)04:00
sommercool, thanks man04:00
j1mchi adam - yeah, sorry, couldn't tell you one way or the other on that one.04:05
sommerthat's cool thanks for taking a look04:05
j1mchopefully phil or matthew or someone else will be able to lend their thoughts.  seems like you're trying to get things right, though.04:05
sommerme and Gilbert just weren't sure on wich direction is best04:05
j1mcnitpicky isn't bad when it comes to getting docs right, i don't think.04:05
sommerya, the kind of weird thing is they produce pretty much the same output04:06
sommerwhich just helps make things more unclear ;-)04:07
j1mcheh04:07
Kr0ntabheya guys...04:16
j1mchi Kr0ntab04:16
Kr0ntabhows it goin j1mc...04:16
Kr0ntabI was just readin the conversation... I'm Gilbert Mendoza, btw... :-)04:17
Kr0ntabI just submitted one more patch, and think we're on the right path, now.04:17
Kr0ntabso no sweat, Adam.04:18
Kr0ntab:-)04:18
sommerKr0ntab: whats up... just committed your latest patch, great stuff04:19
Kr0ntabhehe... woot...04:19
sommerah crap, didn't reply to all though, apologies for the dups04:20
j1mccool, Kr0ntab ... thanks for your work.04:20
Kr0ntabman o man... :-P  Figured we'd get it one of these days.  I'm pretty glad to have gone through a lot of that, because it cleared a whole lot of concepts for me, and I'm sure others will appreciate the input.04:20
Kr0ntabah no prob at all.04:20
Kr0ntabjust happy to be able to contribute where needed.04:21
j1mc:)04:21
sommerya, I just hope you don't feel I was getting down on you or anything... I don't think those tags have really been discussed before04:21
bhuvanhi sommer, Kr0ntab04:21
sommerbhuvan: hows it going04:22
bhuvanawesome work in last few weeks, keep it up!04:22
bhuvangoing good sommer04:22
Kr0ntaboh no no, I don't take things like that personal.  There's a right way to do things, and it's much better to set the right example.04:22
Kr0ntabheya bhuvan ... thanks man.04:23
sommerKr0ntab: cool04:23
bhuvansommer: fyi, i think the tags were chosen based on how it was in rest of documents. initially, it used to be consistent with other documents04:25
bhuvanjust keep in mind that the server guide layout is in line with other documents; if you are convinced to change the layout, thats ok; just keep other document owners (ex: desktop guide) informed thus, theh would make similar change in that document (if it is necessary)04:27
sommergotch, that makes sense04:27
sommersure, I'm not sure about changing the layout, is the question more clarifying which tags to use04:28
sommerbut then that sort of does change the layout... mmmm04:28
sommerI guess I'm really not too familiar with the rest of the guide... been concentrating on the Server section pretty exclusively04:30
sommerI'll read through the other sections04:30
Kr0ntabYeah I was thinking it would be a good idea to go through some of the other docs and make sure the tags used are all consistent.04:32
sommerKr0ntab: do you have hardware that supports KVM virtualization?04:35
Kr0ntabyeah, I do...04:36
sommerI've been trying to work on a virtualization section, but none of my hardware supports it04:36
Kr0ntabah.. yeah.  For the server guide?04:37
sommercoooool... have you seen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmVirtManagerEtc04:37
sommeryep, it came up in one of the last Server Team meetings04:37
sommerI can do a section on qemu, but I don't think the new virt-manager stuff works with it from the cli04:38
sommerwondering if you'd be up for working on a KVM section?04:38
Kr0ntabI've been reading a lot on KVM... and am interested in working on it.  I would just have to familiarize myself with it beforehand.  time frame?04:38
sommerheh... Feb 14th I guess04:39
Kr0ntabhehe... why'd I guess you were going to say that.04:39
sommerthough we can always apply for an extension ahead of time04:39
sommerI'm not even sure development will be 100% done by then, so adjustments may have to be made anyway04:40
Kr0ntabhmm... I have some spare HP DL360/380 servers that I can do something with...04:40
sommercool, I'm looking at getting a new box around April, but hardy will be out by then :)04:41
Kr0ntabYou're just looking for a machine with appropriate chip extensions that KVM supports, right?  Will you need access to it to write up your part?04:42
sommerheh, I was wondering if you'd be up for writing it?04:43
sommerbut I guess if you're willing to...04:43
sommerI'm really not too familiar with kvm, xen, etc myself... moslty just used qemu04:43
sommersomeone else on the server team may be willing to write most of it in the wiki, which we can then "translate" to docbook as well04:44
sommerI was just wondering, since your security updates have been so good ;-)04:45
Kr0ntaboh ok, no sweat.  let me see what resources I have, do some reading, and let you know by tomorrow..04:45
sommersure, no rush04:45
Kr0ntabsweet.  well thanks for that, btw.  It would be pretty cool.04:46
sommersoren in #ubuntu-server is the one working on the virt-manager integration if you have any questions04:46
Kr0ntabyeah, I'll make sure to consult if need be.04:47
sommercool, I think I'm off to bed... have a good one all04:47
Kr0ntabare all the prelim packages in the repos?  or do I need to get them from PPA's?04:48
j1mcis february 14th string freeze?04:48
Kr0ntabor is that a soren question... hehe04:48
sommerthey're in the repos, you'll need to load a hardy alpha release though04:48
Kr0ntabyeah, thats no sweat...04:49
Kr0ntabbrb...04:49
sommerj1mc: that was proposed, by matt east, I'm not 100% sure that it's concrete though04:49
j1mcoh, ok.04:49
j1mcthat would be when we'd do a test build of the docs, and then just work out bugs... ??  iirc...04:50
sommerfeb 14th is proposed to be a major content freeze to allow more time to qa04:50
sommerj1mc: yep, that's my understanding04:50
j1mccool.  thanks.04:50
j1mcg'nite all.  nice chatting w/ all of you.  keep up the good work.  :)04:51
sommerj1mc: later, thanks man04:51
Kr0ntabback..04:56
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