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Xsss4hellany way to install the latest stable kernel wihthout much hassle and hoff? I don't want to comile it, can't I just aptitude it?01:51
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Kanobtw. the amd64 kernel is suboptimal, it does not show the splash08:19
bullgard4Does the Intel M processor use 16- or 32-bit Littleendian?08:22
ln-BenC: ping. can you tell me what "Declined for Dapper by Kees Cook" means in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/65631 ?08:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 65631 in linux-source-2.6.15 "skge driver broken: invalid call to spin_unlock causes system crash" [Medium,Fix committed] 08:51
ln-(someone told me to ping you)08:51
* laga summons rtg13:31
zulis there a community kernel team meeting today?13:32
lagai don't knopw13:32
lagaknow*13:32
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lagartg: looked at the patches already?16:28
rtglaga: aufs? not yet.16:33
lagartg: good. aufs upstream is willing to look at the ubuntu kernel and see what it takes to make aufs work with it16:34
rtglaga: if the kernel patches simply expose some symbols, then it ought not be too difficult.16:35
lagartg: that's all they do i believe. i'm not sure what's needed to work around some API changes introduced by apparmor (IIRC).16:37
lagaonly the aufs guy can tell, i suppose16:37
lagahttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=summary <- is that the kernel tree he should look at?16:40
rtglaga: yep16:41
julianklaga: the new aufs upload in Debian (today or tomorrow) will fix the issues, using the patch Kano proposed. 16:49
lagajuliank: i just saw your email.16:50
lagajuliank: sorry if parts of my msg were redundant, i wrote it earlier today and didn't have the opportunity to send it till now16:51
julianklaga: who plans to include aufs into l-u-m? 16:51
lagajuliank: rtg said he'd be cool with doing that if i submitted a patch. granted, he has to review the kernel patches proposed by junjiro first16:52
lagajuliank: with the patches in your package, does the kernel need to be patched at all? (except for the lhash patch which I do need)16:53
julianklaga: I'm running the normal ubuntu kernel and it works. But some patches may boost performance or improve security.16:54
lagajuliank: it depends on rtg then.16:55
* laga digs up lhash patch16:55
rtgwhen you guys are ready, send the patches (or a reference to them) on kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com so I don't forget them.16:56
lagajuliank: which patches would you recommend?16:59
julianklaga: I never used them, but I would say: splice, lhash [nfs] , put_filp [nfs]17:03
lagasec_perm is not needed anymore with your patches.17:04
* laga adds question mark17:04
julianklaga: Right. It's patched like unionfs in l-u-m, but I don't know if this is the best way.17:04
lagajuliank: does the sec_perm patch actually apply to the ubuntu kernel? 17:05
lagajuliank: have you verified that the ia_file patch doesn't break anything? just commenting out stuff looks scary to me :)17:05
julianklaga: by Kano. upstream did the same, see his last e-mail. - The problem with upstream's patch (although they may be better) is the size.17:06
juliankeveryone: Is security_inode_permission enabled in the Ubuntu kernel?17:07
lagajuliank: the last email from upstream is from 6:00am, correct?17:08
julianklaga: 17:34 (CET)17:09
lagajuliank: i must be blind. the only email i see from around that time is the one i wrote (17:37)17:13
julianklaga: Maybe it's not on the list yet. 17:14
juliankthe patch is at http://jak.kicks-ass.org/~jak/upstream.diff17:14
lagajuliank: or he only sent it to you. anyways, if junjiro did the same thing, why not17:14
juliankThe question is: Are the API changes caused by AppArmor only?  See the simple patch from Kano at http://jak.kicks-ass.org/~jak/01_vserver_apparmor.dpatch17:15
lagajuliank: if we put it into l-u-m, does it really matter how big that patch is?17:17
lagajuliank: i believe the ia_file api change is caused by apparmor patches - at least i found an apparmor patch which removes that member. vanilla 2.6.24 still has it.17:17
julianklaga: I know this. I'm talking about the other changes.17:18
lagaah.17:18
lagainteresting. that ia_file patch was indeed there earlier17:18
julianklaga: The aufs-source package will be kept and people who build aufs with it should use the same set of patches like l-u-m.17:22
lagajuliank: sounds good. but which patch are we going to use? :)17:23
julianklaga: Kano's patch is much easier to maintain. it's 2-4 kb, whereas upstream's patch is about 57 kb.17:25
juliankAnd Kanotix is a live disk, which means it should work17:25
juliankAfter Alpha 4, we should start building disks using aufs instead of unionfs (but keep it as a fallback, like in debian-live)17:27
julianklaga, rtg: I'll provide a patch to add fs/aufs to l-u-m, based on the code in the aufs-source package (new revision not uploaded yet) 17:30
rtgjuliank: thanks, much appreciated.17:30
juliankrtg: It would just be good to keep most of the configuration in http://jak.kicks-ass.org/~jak/conf.mk  - should I simply add CONFIG_AUFS=m to config/[archs] and keep the config.mk file inside fs/aufs/ - it exports many variables and EXTRA_CFLAGS17:34
rtgjuliank: If you figure out how to build it under l-u-m, then I can go from there.17:37
lagajuliank: how does the lhash patch fit in? :)17:47
Dekanshello guys18:23
Dekanswhat are compilation options for a live CD kernel ?18:27
dade`https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/15101618:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 151016 in linux-source-2.6.22 "New in 2.6.22-13: system takes a LONG time to resume from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed] 18:28
MithrandirDekans: it's the stock -generic kernel18:28
dade`is this fixed on any new hardy kernel ?18:28
DekansI would like to make a live CD with a vanilla patched kernel18:29
dade`someone in the last comments says it's fixed in -14-2 but there is no confirmation18:30
DekansMithrandir: Mithrandir is the /boot/config-`uname -r` good ?18:32
MithrandirDekans: it should be, yes.18:32
Dekansand I can easily the -generic kernel of a live CD ?18:33
Dekans+replace18:33
dade`nobody cares about me :(18:33
dade`hmm, an easy way to install hardy's kernel on gutsy ?19:09
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juliankAny list moderator here?20:57
juliankrtg: I finished all patches, but the post "[l-u-m] [PATCH] UBUNTU: Add aufs module version 0+20080129" needs to be approved by a moderator first20:59
rtgjuliank: just did20:59
lagawow21:22
lagajuliank: thanks for the patches21:22
lagartg: thanks for comitting them21:22
alex_jonidoes anyone happen to know when pci_get_device() was added into the kernel?22:04
alex_joni(do newer 2.4 kernels have that? or only the pci_find_device()?)22:05
Kanohi, it seems you forgot to add the aufs config to lum23:40
lagaheh23:40
lagayeah23:40
Kanojust compiled and it was without23:40
lagatook me some time to fix that23:40
rtgKano: workin on it.23:40
lagartg: great.23:40
Kanodid you see my casper patch (similar to live-helper)?23:40
Kanoyou should upload a fixed casper package too23:41
lagaKano: julian might be interested in that. i think he's going to provide aufs patches for the live disks tomorrow23:41
rtglaga: the patch didn't apply clean to debian/config/i386 or amd64 because of a prior patch from Fabio. Simple enough to fix.23:41
Kanoi did that yesterady already23:41
Kanowill just change the patch position23:42
Kanowhy are my 2 other patches are not used?23:43
Kanohttp://kanotix.com/files/fix/casper-aufs.patch23:45
Kanothats for casper23:45
Kanothen you can use union=aufs23:45
lagahum. NFS branch not supported with aufs. either i did something wrong or the autodetection is not working.23:45
rtglum pushed23:46
rtgI'm outta here23:46
* laga makes a mental note to bug julian tomorrow and leaves23:46
Kanoat least i have got now only 2 extra module packages besides lum...23:50
ln-BenC: ping. can you tell me what "Declined for Dapper by Kees Cook" means in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/65631 ?  (someone told me to ping you)23:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 65631 in linux-source-2.6.15 "skge driver broken: invalid call to spin_unlock causes system crash" [Medium,Fix committed] 23:52
Kanoln-: how about using sk98lin and blacklist skge?23:52
BenCln-: means it wont be fixed in dapper23:52
ln-BenC: any idea why not?23:53
BenCln-: without reading it, I can only guess because it doesn't meet our Stable Release Updates policy23:53
ln-BenC: it's a security vulnerability; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/cve/2006-722923:54
BenCln-: looks like it is fixed in dapper already...probably why it was declined...already fixed23:55
ln-BenC: but it isn't fixed!23:55
BenCln-:   * [UBUNTU:drivers/net] drop invalid spin_unlock calls in skge (CVE-2006-7229)23:56
ubotuThe skge driver 1.5 in Linux kernel 2.6.15 on Ubuntu does not properly use the spin_lock and spin_unlock functions, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (machine crash) via a flood of network traffic. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-7229)23:56
BenCln-: that is in the latest changelog for 2.6.1523:56
BenCln-: if you can show that this is reproducible in 2.6.15-51.65 upload, then I'd say take it up with kees23:57
ln-BenC: please take a look at the skge.log attachment at the end.. i.e. this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11562782/skge.log23:58
ln-ok, i admit there is no spin_unlock visible in it, but still an excellent way to crash the system.23:59
BenCln-: I'm going to need to see the version of the linux-image-2.6.15-51-386 package for that log23:59

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