[00:37] hey [00:52] Mike_Feravolo: what do you mean by 'get out there' - where is there? [00:52] in regards to your chamber of commerce comment [00:54] It means that you have to show up at events when you join a chamber for it to help you [00:55] At least that how it works in Orlando, Florida USA [00:56] Bug Number 1 is big in Orlando Florida and a lot of people don't know that it can be fixed [00:59] It always feels like you live in a community where everyone uses microsoft until you start checking around with people. [01:00] I did not realize there was a group here who loads ubuntu on donated computers and gives them to poor people, for example, or that there is a college department that runs all kubuntu [01:04] That sounds like good news, at least the donated computers part I don't know about the KDE thing [01:04] :-) [01:08] did you go to the florida linux show earlier in the month? [01:08] the one in jacksonville ? [01:08] yes, that one [01:09] I didn't get a change it's about 4 hours + away this time of year [01:09] man my spelling is awful [01:10] but those are the types of things that show there is linux activity in your area [01:13] Okay [01:14] But, how does that "sell" ubuntu to people that never heard of Linux ? [01:15] just opportunities to collaborate with other groups in your loco [01:15] 1+1=3 [01:16] like - I am considering setting up a coffee shop that will educate people on ubuntu (and sell coffee and internet), but I would get the computers donated from this group that gives them away [01:16] Where ? [01:16] that way I can run an coffee place at a profit without buying and maintaining the computers, and I can focus on putting together classes and promoting the store [01:17] The internet Cafe thing is cool [01:17] or I should say Ubuntu Cafe ? [01:17] nice [01:18] I does sound cool, the question is can you use it ? [01:20] only thing holding me back is that I have no idea how to convert a cement-floored empty space into a up-to-code restaurant. I suppose I could learn. :) [01:20] ... that and I don't want to dump 30 grand on a lease that is going to end up being a money pit ;) [01:21] Been there, Done that :-) [01:21] which part? bringing a place to code or dumping a truck load of savings into a hole? [01:21] Which is why I am sticking to the Computer Trade [01:22] The flushing a ton of money into some elses building and lossing my . . . . [01:22] yes, for certain I can make more money doing the IT gig. just got bored of it as of lately [01:23] How long have you been in the profession ? [01:24] I have been in the Computer Science trade since the Mini-Computer era [01:25] I even feel for the MCSE scam [01:26] But realized that is just another way to make you know who richer [01:27] So I burned my MCP card [01:29] Peace [01:32] oh, hi, back [01:32] yes, got the mcse back in NT 4.0 days and a cert list as long as my arm [01:33] I might consider getting the LCP if I started supporting linux systems. I am someone who loves to learn! [01:44] Still here, more or less, What type of things are you interested in learning - I like programming and would like to learn Groovy [01:45] Groovy is the secound langauge to run under the java run time [01:46] I hate this comparision but it's like VB.net is to C## [01:50] I am not much of a programmer, even though I went to school for it. I'm more about working with other people to do technical solutions. [01:50] That's the kind of stuff that gets me really excited: to see people getting together, working with computers to get them to do something important. [01:51] So, like, working with people to adopt a free software solution like ubuntu is a dream for me! :) [01:52] I agree, I don't do a lot of programming other then web based stuff these days [01:56] Working with people to adopt a free software solution, that sounds like a clear objective to me === bmk789 is now known as bmk789_brb [07:36] Idea-- how about we create a guide for people to lobby their local govenments for free software and Ubuntu adoption? http://www.google.com/search?q=lobby+governmnet+%22how+to%22+OR+guide [08:25] morning [20:00] b00 === monkee is now known as Monkee_Of_Evil === davies is now known as jpatrick === MrM is now known as mrmonday === bmk789 is now known as bmk789_AT_BAND === bmk789_AT_BAND is now known as bmk789_at_band