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dannyboy79anyone use options for ivtv module?00:17
dannyboy79anyone use options for ivtv module?00:57
puckAny ubuntu mythtv folks at LCA and intending to go to the mythtv BoF?>01:08
OpenMediaMe01:13
OpenMediaQuestion is when is the BOF?01:13
puckIt looks like none of the times have been published yet01:15
WcktKlwnhas anyone used a HDHomeRun ?01:33
tgm4883_laptopWcktKlwn, that is the preferred HD tuner here01:48
tritiumpreferred?01:48
tritiumby whom?01:48
tgm4883_laptoptritium, by the developers01:49
tritiumupstream, or mythbuntu?01:49
tgm4883_laptopmythbuntu01:49
tritiumI would not expect upstream to necessarily have a "preferred" tuner.01:50
WcktKlwnhmm.. I thought it was a good concept.. and since it's "preferred", I think I might pick up one01:51
tritiumThey do seem nice.01:51
tritiumAt least, if you don't mind an external tuner.01:52
WcktKlwnthat's really the only downfall to it01:52
WcktKlwnso it seems anyway01:52
tgm4883_laptoptritium, WcktKlwn actually i would see that as a benefit01:52
tgm4883_laptopas it is an ethernet tuner, not a usb or firewire01:52
tritiumtgm4883_laptop: not to all, though01:52
tgm4883_laptopso you can place it anywhere01:52
tritiumI won't get one for that reason.01:53
WcktKlwnpeople with limited space have issues with more boxes01:53
tgm4883_laptopwell the pcHDTV 5500 is a good card too01:53
tritiumMy Dvico card works quite well.01:53
bearanyone know how to get mame to work with mythtv?02:06
superm1dannyboy79, LCA?02:19
superm1er puck i mean02:19
RAOFsuperm1: Howdie.  I have an annoying mythtv bug, want to help me chase it down?08:47
superm1maybe... :)08:48
superm1what is it?08:48
RAOFSo it's possibly related to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/413808:48
RAOFExcept for the port where scanning seems to work.08:48
superm1okay everyone in hear has quoted a version on -fixes though08:50
superm1have you already backed up your DB and checked to see if it works on trunk?08:51
RAOFBackup?  This is an initial install :)08:52
superm1okay.08:52
superm1grab the trunk debs from mythbuntu.org/auto-builds08:52
RAOFIs building myth arduous... Cool.08:52
superm1and give those a spin before getting too in depth here08:52
RAOFWicked.08:52
superm1those are ~5 days old i think08:52
superm1so current enough08:52
superm1RAOF, any such luck?09:25
RAOFsuperm1: Eh, apt's being slow.09:29
superm1oh yeah your .au :)09:29
RAOFI should probably clear out some of my sources.list.d.  It's getting a little full.09:30
superm1okay well i think i'm done hacking on trying to fix vnc4's package for the night, i'm gonna hit the sack09:31
superm1with any luck trunk will resolve your issue, and that bug will get closed :)09:31
RAOFTa.09:33
RAOFG'night!09:33
mindframe-well thats nice15:36
fir3_hi16:08
tgm4883_laptophi16:08
fir3_i tried to install mythbuntu-lirc-generator on debian sid, but the install fails there: http://rafb.net/p/1jGlgs36.html16:09
tgm4883_laptophmm16:12
tgm4883_laptopunfortunatly im not sure of the issue16:13
tgm4883_laptopplus, i don't read german16:13
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991_laptop, http://rafb.net/p/1jGlgs36.html16:13
fir3_the german part is not important anyway, just some output by apt-get16:13
rhpot1991_laptoppython version not match up maybe?16:14
rhpot1991_laptopfir3_: why using sid, and not some form of ubuntu?16:14
rhpot1991_laptopsid breaks randomly, so it could have something to do with that16:14
fir3_python 2.4.416:15
fir3_debian has some advantages i don't want to miss16:15
fir3_and other python apps run fine16:16
tgm4883_laptopwhat version of python central do you have?16:17
fir3_0.5.15-0.116:18
rhpot1991_laptop2.5.1-1ubuntu216:18
rhpot1991_laptopis my python version16:18
tgm4883_laptopBuild-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.43), debhelper (>= 5.0.38), python-central (>= 0.5.6), python (>= 2.4)16:19
tgm4883_laptoplooks like you need to update python-central16:19
tgm4883_laptoperr16:19
tgm4883_laptopnm, too early :)16:19
tgm4883_laptopi really shouldn't help people before i've had my coffee16:20
fir3_i also have python 2.5 installed, how can i make lirc generator use it?16:24
fir3_python2.5.116:25
=== MythbuntuGuest89 is now known as Richr
Richrhi dudes, gonna try my hand here with a couple of questions if you dont mind :)16:43
Richrif i have 2 *different* tv sources, does the mythtv/ubuntu setup cope with that and offer you a choice of what to watch?16:44
directhex|bspyes, it shows all channels together in the program guide17:15
directhex|bspand will switch to the right card when you pick a channel from the guide17:16
directhex|bspor there's a button to switch cards when channel hopping17:16
MythbuntuGuest43has anybody here tried a static ip?17:31
MythbuntuGuest43when I tried it totally screwed up my system17:31
jduggani found the wireless config wasnt so intuitive for static assignments17:32
jdugganso i ditched it and set it manually17:32
MythbuntuGuest43I set my ip in /etc/networking/interfaces17:33
MythbuntuGuest43but then I could not access mysql17:33
tgm4883_laptopunfortunatly it is a problem17:33
tgm4883_laptopsec17:33
MythbuntuGuest43ok, is there a bug?17:33
tgm4883_laptopyea, i'm looking it up17:33
tgm4883_laptop!bug 15618717:34
tgm4883_laptop!bug 15608717:34
tgm4883_laptopthe second ong17:34
tgm4883_laptopbah17:34
tgm4883_laptophttps://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/15608717:34
tgm4883_laptopubotu is slow17:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is slow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:34
MythbuntuGuest43ok, thanks17:35
superm1fir3_, you still here?18:00
superm10.19 is the latest mlg18:00
superm1you should be building that18:00
fir3_mlg?18:01
superm1mythbuntu-lirc-generator18:03
superm1http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/x11/mythbuntu-lirc-generator18:04
tushydanyone know of a USB tv tuner that can do NTSC/ATSC/PAL18:06
tushyd??18:06
tushydI travel between Europe and US a lot18:07
tushydanyone?18:07
superm1tushyd, i've never heard of such a device18:09
fir3_superm1: neither works, it's still using python 2.4 instead of 2.5 which would work18:09
superm1fir3_, same error?18:10
fir3_yep18:10
superm1why dont you try python 2.5?18:10
fir3_python2.5 is installed, but apt-get persists on using 2.418:11
superm1try changing the build depends on the source package18:11
superm1to 2.518:12
fir3_don't know how to do that18:14
fir3_but the maintainer should be contacted about that18:14
fir3_i don't need it anymore anyway, i extracted it and ran it manually18:14
superm1hi. i'm maintainer :)18:16
lagaeverybody run18:16
superm1it hasn't been an issue since ubuntu uses python 2.518:17
* superm1 cracks a whip in the direction of laga's country18:17
fir3_alright :)18:17
lagasuperm1: looks like the aufs debian maintainer is gonna make the lum patch18:18
lagaand there was much rejoicing.18:18
superm1woah sweet18:18
superm1who s the aufs debian maintainer?18:18
fir3_well, debian has both 2.4, 2.5 and even 2.3, 2.4 is default18:18
superm1fir3_, i'll bump the build depends to 2.518:18
superm1and if ours still builds release it like that18:19
lagasuperm1: juliank, he's also the ubuntu maintainer :)18:19
fir3_alright, tnx :)18:19
superm1laga, ooh that makes life easy18:19
lagayes18:19
superm1will that extra hook in casper be of any use to you?18:20
superm1the one that Kano made18:20
lagasuperm1: julian said he'd like to make the live disks use aufs.18:21
lagai'll leave it to him18:21
lagathe diskless stuff is more important to me at the moment.18:21
lagabesides, it's like a two line change.18:21
superm1isnt it a little bit late in hardy's cycle to do something so ambitious?18:21
superm1maybe not18:21
lagatrue.18:21
lagawell18:21
lagaif it's done properly, eg with unionfs still being the default, it's maybe 6 lines18:22
superm1ah18:22
lagaaufs is added to lum so they dont have to change unionfs.18:22
superm1well if it really has such awesome performance yeah i'd love to master our disks with it instead18:22
laganot sure about performance, eg speed18:23
lagasuperm1: we can still just "fork" the live-initramfs package.18:23
superm1indeed18:24
zero_hy.18:43
zero_i've a question about adding software to the menu18:44
tgm4883_laptopok18:45
zero_i have problems with software, that have a tray icon18:45
zero_eg pidgin or wengophone18:45
zero_the do not stop, after using it. so the frontend does not get focus18:46
zero_has anyone an idea?18:48
superm1disable tray icon?18:49
zero_i haven't found a setting for this.18:50
zero_not in menus and not in the cli18:50
zero_i thought about "encapsulation" in other software...18:51
zero_dunno :)18:51
superm1i thought there was for pidgin at least18:52
superm1dont know about wengophone18:52
superm1one of the plugins might add the behavior to allow it18:53
zero_mythtv plugins or wengo/pidgin plugins?18:53
superm1pidgin plugins18:53
zero__thanks for the help, mythtv is a really great projekt for my media center. it works fine and integration of new features is a dream :)18:56
MythbuntuGuest34hello i need help, i will play with mythbuntu play dvd with mpg tv records, but it didnt work, can someone help me19:21
MythbuntuGuest34i want to play a mpg movie with a dvd, but in menue is only vcd and dvd and both dont work19:23
MythbuntuGuest34someone an idear for me?19:24
lagasounds like you want to play a data DVD. the "DVD" menu entry is only for video dvds19:24
lagayou'll need to use mythvideo i think19:25
lagabut i never used that particular setup19:25
MythbuntuGuest34yes its a data dvd with only the mpg video file....19:25
MythbuntuGuest34mythvideo i dont found the menue19:26
tgm4883_laptopyou would have to install mythvideo19:26
tgm4883_laptopthen copy the mpg to the mythvideo directory19:26
tgm4883_laptopIIRC that is /var/lib/mythtv/videos19:26
lagayou can use a symlink to the cd-rom drive mount point as well19:27
lagabut it's not populated automagically i think19:27
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok and without copy doent work?19:27
lagahum19:27
lagacome to think of it: mythgallery might work as well19:27
MythbuntuGuest34symlink wgar rgus=19:27
MythbuntuGuest34what is this i meen19:27
tgm4883_laptopwell you could symlink the cdrom location to the video location, then set mythvideo to browse the files19:28
MythbuntuGuest34yes this is a good idear, but wherer i can make it?19:28
MythbuntuGuest34mhh i see in the mythconfig that the play dvd menu is linked with internal and not with mplayer, how the other menues....go this pherhaps with a other command line???19:31
MythbuntuGuest34dvd play command: internal --- vcd playcommand mplayer vvd:// -cdrom-device %d -fs -zoom -vo xv19:32
MythbuntuGuest34not vvd, vcd19:32
lagathat command is for _video_ dvds19:33
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok and other command pherhaps it works with data dvd?19:33
lagathat command is for _video_ cds19:33
lagayou can modify one to suit your purposes, but there are better options19:34
MythbuntuGuest34yes but dvd internal und cds mplayer, why other commands to start?19:34
MythbuntuGuest34better options?19:34
lagathe internal player does not support VCDs19:34
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok...19:35
MythbuntuGuest34do you know where can i edit that mythbuntu seach on dvd for files, too?19:35
lagawe've already made a few suggestions19:36
MythbuntuGuest34yes but i dont know how i can do this19:37
MythbuntuGuest34where can i make the symlink to dvdrom?19:38
lagacommand line interface, or maybe there's a graphical tool for it19:38
lagagoogle knows all about symlinks :)19:39
lagathere are also various threads about what you want to do on there19:39
MythbuntuGuest34ah i test a search :)19:39
lagait'd be very cool if this was easier, though..19:40
lagasuperm1: any ideas how we can automate playback of data dvds?19:40
MythbuntuGuest34mhhh my english isnt so good, what must i insert in google?19:40
lagaeg auto-play a DVD which just contains a bunch of mpgs/avis..19:41
lagaMythbuntuGuest34: http://de.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14819:41
lagaeven in your native language :)19:42
MythbuntuGuest34mutch thanks, how do you know that german my language is?19:43
laga-!- MythbuntuGuest34 [n=Mythbunt@f054128069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv19:43
lagai saw the .de in your host mask19:44
tgm4883_laptoplaga is an uber hacker19:44
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok.... thats a answer :)19:44
laga(it's also possible to guess from some mistakes in english commonly made by germans ;))19:44
MythbuntuGuest34yes, but how do you know german mistakes, when they speak english, you a a german, too? :)19:46
superm1laga, yeah19:46
tgm4883_laptopuh oh, you've been outed laga19:46
superm1they open up to mythvideo19:47
lagaoh noes19:47
lagasuperm1: is that done by default?19:47
superm1well they do for a lot of mine19:47
lagaoh19:47
laganifty19:47
superm1some of them go to mythpictures though19:47
superm1for some reason19:47
MythbuntuGuest34ahm one quiestion, is mount the dvd device in /mnt/storage/dvd, too?19:47
lagaMythbuntuGuest34: yes, i'm german, too. but no worries, i didn't guess from your accent ;)19:48
MythbuntuGuest34ln -s /media/dvd/ /mnt/storage/dvd works this correct?19:48
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok than i am relieved *hihi*19:50
MythbuntuGuest34will work the syslink example?19:51
MythbuntuGuest34do you know?19:51
lagajust try it :)19:51
MythbuntuGuest34mhhh /media/dvd nop such file or directory19:53
laga /media/cdrom ?19:53
MythbuntuGuest34no dvd19:53
MythbuntuGuest34i test it19:54
MythbuntuGuest34no dont work, too19:54
lagayou should have a /media/cdrom or cdrom0 directory in there?19:55
MythbuntuGuest34i search19:55
MythbuntuGuest34a filemanager says udf volume on media cdrom019:56
MythbuntuGuest34also /media/cdrom0 /mnt/storange/dvd ???19:57
MythbuntuGuest34mhh mythbuntu have a mounted cdrom directory /cdrom19:59
MythbuntuGuest34mthe stored videos is in /var/lib/mythbuntu/videos#20:01
MythbuntuGuest34than i must write ln -s /media/cdrom /var/lib/mythbuntu/videos ????20:01
laga /var/lib/mythbuntu/videos/dvd maybe20:03
MythbuntuGuest34no :(20:03
MythbuntuGuest34no such file or driectory he say20:04
superm1/var/lib/mythtv/videos20:04
superm1sounds more app20:04
lagaoh20:04
MythbuntuGuest34no dont work, too :(20:04
MythbuntuGuest34he say: ln: creating symbolic link '/var/lib/mythbuntu/videos' to '/media/cdrom' : No such file or directory20:06
MythbuntuGuest34or must i loged in with the root user20:07
MythbuntuGuest34mhh where can i set the root pw?20:24
superm1you dont20:25
superm1you use sudo20:25
superm1sudo COMMAND20:25
superm1and you use your password20:25
superm1that's how Ubuntu does things20:25
MythbuntuGuest34i dont have the pw, because throu install he dont ask for it20:25
superm1the install does ask for a password yes20:26
superm1it was on the same page that you chose a user name20:27
MythbuntuGuest34no install dont ask only for the main user, not for root, but in account proerties i have fount to chance it20:27
superm1exactly20:27
superm1you dont user a root user20:27
superm1you type sudo COMMAND20:27
superm1and you use your normal user20:27
MythbuntuGuest34yes but when i make sodu he ask me for a thw root ow and that i dont have20:28
superm1sudo asks for your password20:28
superm1not the root password20:28
superm1su asks for root password20:28
lagaactually, that misconception is what made me ditch ubuntu when i first tried it. i kept entering the root password in the sudo prompt20:28
MythbuntuGuest34ah ok you have right... only for the main user he ask me :)20:29
MythbuntuGuest34ok but i could not make the syslink.... wheere is the error?20:31
=== kjetil_ is now known as KjetilK
MythbuntuGuest34or do you have a other idear how i can play the data dvd mpg file with mythbuntu?20:35
superm1MythbuntuGuest34, for me, i set up myth to automatically check my drive for stuff20:36
superm1and then when a dvd is mounted via Xfce's mount stuff, it shows up in myth20:36
superm1under mythvideo20:36
MythbuntuGuest34this is good, what must i do for it20:37
superm1there is an option in the general section20:37
superm1to automatically check for mounted items20:37
superm1check that and restart mythfrontend20:37
superm1and that should be it20:37
lagacool20:37
lagadidn't know that20:37
superm1it works for dvds too20:38
superm1puts you right into mythdvd20:38
MythbuntuGuest34gernalsection in mythbuntfrontet or where it is?20:38
superm1in the frontend20:38
superm1i dont remember exactly where20:38
superm1but there is an option for it20:38
superm1general settings i believe20:38
MythbuntuGuest34ok thanks i search for it20:38
KjetilKI'm a bit confused about the version numbers used for the nvidia drivers20:42
KjetilKI'm looking into http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ComponentOut20:43
KjetilKand I need to understand what version I have, I use the nvidia-glx-new right now20:43
lagadpkg -l nvidia-glx-new20:44
MythbuntuGuest34cool mutch thanks !!! it works now :))))20:45
KjetilKlaga: yeah, but the version number I get from that doesn't correspond to the ones on that wiki, quite...20:45
lagaKjetilK: the wiki is out of date20:46
KjetilKlaga: oh, ok, so 9755  is an older version than 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.1020:46
KjetilK?20:46
MythbuntuGuest34one quiestion please when i play the video it is not full of the screen. how can i soom?20:47
lagaKjetilK: yes20:47
KjetilKok...20:47
lagaMythbuntuGuest34: hit "m", there's an option..20:47
MythbuntuGuest34m he say mute enabled20:47
MythbuntuGuest34and w isnt it, too. i think w it can chanche it with mpgs on harddrive, but now it dont works20:48
MythbuntuGuest34oh i must go now... bye and mutch rthanks for your help20:50
MythbuntuGuest34bye20:50
RAOFsuperm1: Trunk fixes my problem, thanks.21:00
superm1RAOF, that's great to hear21:01
superm1we're planning to switch to it within a week or two21:01
superm1for hardy21:01
RAOFExcellent.  There don't appear to be trunk-weeklies built for hardy - is that right?21:02
superm1not yet21:02
superm1the plan at this point (upstream) is to have 0.21 ready by feb/march21:02
superm1so at least switch to trunk before FF21:02
superm1on feb 1421:02
RAOFRight.21:02
superm1and then make the argument of incremental changes to motu-ff21:03
superm1hopefully that flies :)21:03
RAOFProbably will :)21:03
pdragonoh nice .21 will make hardy?21:04
KjetilKwooohooo, my 5.1 sound setup finally works21:13
tgm4883_laptopMy blasting isn't quiet working properly.  I've noticed that the numbers in lircd.conf are labeled like "Six" rather than "6".  When the frontend tries to change channels, which does it use?22:04
tgm4883_laptopalso, i am unable to change the channel via the channel change script from the command line using "6", obviously becuase that is not what is defined22:04
MythbuntuGuest47hello i have a problem, when i have a monitor i can see the video, but when i connect the tv i can see the mythbuntumenu but, when i start a film the screen will be black22:10
MythbuntuGuest47when i start mythbuntu woithout the monitor he say the graphic card not found and teh screen is correct 800x600 with 61Hz, but why i cant see the film on tv?22:12
MythbuntuGuest47i have a ato 7000 ve graphic card22:13
superm1MythbuntuGuest47, yes this is because only one hardware overlay is supported at a time22:14
superm1it can either be on the primary or secondary monitor22:15
MythbuntuGuest47mhh with the config programm he say only default screen. i have connected only tv22:15
MythbuntuGuest47and the secondscreen is grey and i cant click it22:16
MythbuntuGuest47or where i must say hin, with screen aktiv is?22:17
MythbuntuGuest47in fronterd pherhaps?22:19
superm1i'm not sure with the open source driver how to set where the video overlay is, sorry22:22
superm1you might want to ask in #mythtv-users22:22
superm1since its a pretty general question22:22
MythbuntuGuest47mhhh when i have the monitor connected i have ato driver but whith the monitor i have vesa driver and can not config with the odl driver22:23
MythbuntuGuest47ok thanks i aks there sombody22:23
MythbuntuGuest47but, why i can see with tv the frontered menu?22:25
MythbuntuGuest47but when i start a film teh tv is blank22:25
RAOFMythbuntuGuest47: because the frontend menu is drawn normally.  The TV is done using the (hardware-accelerated) video overlay, which only works on one of the outputs.22:41
superm1RAOF, in case you forgot, can you leave some notes on that bug on upstream's tracker to make sure it gets closed since its fixed in trunk?22:52
superm1(i dont have that url you gave me handy still to look)22:52
RAOFCertainly, thanks for reminding me.22:53
superm1thx22:55
nuno__Hi all. I've recently installed Mythbuntu 7.10 with a ASUS MyCinema-P7131 and everything works well except...23:10
nuno__...except that TVDirect doesn't has sound. However the problem is not the sound system as I can listen to music and stream TV23:12
nuno__Any suggestions?23:12
tgm4883_laptopnuno__, how are you hooking your directv up to your computer?23:15
tgm4883_laptoperr23:15
tgm4883_laptoptvdirect that is23:15
tgm4883_laptopman, i must be lisdexic today23:15
nuno__I pick the signal directly from my cable provider to the P-7131.23:16
nuno__I've found a more or less correct diagnostic of my problem (Razzing/tinny/metalic sound) but related to a VIA 8237 chipset which is not the case23:18
nuno__For that case it seems that the problem was with the capture audio stream rate.23:18
nuno__I have tried the solution advertised there (changing the audio capture rate) but it didn't worked :-(23:19
superm1RAOF, you still hanging in here?23:38
RAOFYeah?23:38
superm1would you mind doing a quick REVU on a NEW myth app (and testing it with trunk?)23:39
RAOFCertainly, but not right now.23:39
superm1great :), it will be on revu when you've got time.23:39
superm1its called gmyth23:39
superm1provided it works for you with trunk, i'm going to get a MIR filed for it23:39
superm1and then totem gets mythtv support23:40
RAOFAs in: a totem plugin to connect to a mythtv backend?23:40
superm1yes23:40
superm1for live tv23:40
RAOFThat's *awesome*23:40
superm1and recordings23:40
superm1yeah, i'm really excited :)23:40
lagaif it works23:40
* laga hides23:40
superm1i just tested the command line version of it against just -fixes23:40
superm1and it works there23:41
superm1i'm gonna rebuilld totem with it in a little bit23:41
lagacool23:42
lagajust found out the hard way that aufs was not enabled in lum23:43
lagathat's gonna be fixed soon23:43
lagagot a local build now..23:43

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