[00:00] <adrock358> tim_ waht's the problem
[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> !sound | tim_
[00:00] <ubotu> tim_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:00] <tim_> sub[t]rnl:  it is enabled and i tried that...
[00:00] <flipstar> tim = sigma16
[00:00] <tim_> adrock358:  it says my sound card is supported detected and working ye tno sound comes out
[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> tim_➜ run down the list on the troubleshooting link
[00:01] <sub[t]rnl> tim_➜ it will take you step by step
[00:01] <tim_> sub[t]rnl: kkk....
[00:01] <tim_> me wonders why flip couldnt have done that... after 4 hours....
[00:01] <tim_> sowy if that sounded mean...
[00:01] <flipstar> mjwild: did you installed this specific packet manually ?
[00:01] <tim_> hmm lets see...
[00:02] <mjwild> yes I may have
[00:02] <adrock358> tim_u get im?
[00:02] <phroughy> lol, anyone else who has kde4 have all their desktop icons stop working after doing todays updates?
[00:02] <tim_> adrock358:  yes msn and aim
[00:03] <flipstar> phroughy: i just didnt update today :P
[00:03] <flipstar> dont know why
[00:04] <phroughy> flipstar: well it's an easy fix, maybe it wasnt even the update, they all just are malformed. but remaking them works fine (the shortcuts are what i talking about)
[00:05] <flipstar> hm but the hardy ppl also claimed that there some breakes after updating today (got hardy)
[00:06] <phroughy> haha, i have hardy
[00:06] <flipstar> so im just lucky i didnt update today :P
[00:06] <adrock358> tim_ the one i sent you via this chat channel
[00:06] <tim_> adrock358:  ?
[00:06] <tim_> oh no i didn get it
[00:06] <adrock358> tim_ im me
[00:07] <sigma16> k
[00:07] <adrock358> it may be easier.  or i can help you in the room
[00:07] <sigma16> adrock358: i wasnt logged in b4.....
[00:10] <flipstar> anyone using cmdiag ?
[00:10] <sigg2> flipstar: how come i cant hear u when my nick is sigma16
[00:10] <flipstar> hm maybe i did ignore you ?
[00:11] <sigg2> flipstar:  that usually means i can hear u but u cant hear me
[00:11] <flipstar> no idea
[00:11] <bascule> damn, you can hear me too .. :)
[00:12] <applehypnosis> there is just one thing that I wanted to tell #kubuntu
[00:12] <applehypnosis> its that i'm chris hansen
[00:12] <applehypnosis> and we're doing a story on developers who release their software too early
[00:12]  * applehypnosis cameras roll out
[00:13] <D0nMcN> Can somebody help me installing Internet Explorer 6 onto my Kubuntu 7.10? A game I play requires the browser for a lot of things, and won't run without it. I'll also need to install the latest flash for it, too. The game is originally designed to be for Windows, but i've installed it with Wine.
[00:13] <flipstar> did you try that konqueror thing .. ?
[00:13] <flipstar> hm you could try firefox..?
[00:14] <D0nMcN> no, the game requires internet explorer
[00:14] <flipstar> no ..
[00:14] <D0nMcN> it wont run on ANYTHING else
[00:14] <flipstar> you can change user_agent
[00:14] <flipstar> then it appears to be ie
[00:14] <D0nMcN> can you explain how please?
[00:14] <D0nMcN> because There integrates into IE
[00:14] <flipstar> just type about:config in ff
[00:15] <sigg2> will this work in terminal
[00:15] <sigg2> suod modprobe emu10k2
[00:15] <sigg2> sudo^
[00:15] <flipstar> then right click new string . name:general.useragent.override
[00:16] <flipstar> got that ?
[00:16] <D0nMcN> yes
[00:16] <flipstar> okay then set Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)
[00:16] <Jucato> D0nMcN: if you installed the game using Wine, you might as well install Internet Explorer in wine. Search for ies4linux
[00:17] <D0nMcN> did that flipstar
[00:17] <flipstar> now try out ....
[00:17] <D0nMcN> k
[00:17] <D0nMcN> flipstar: nope
[00:17] <flipstar> damn
[00:18] <D0nMcN> the game absolutely requires IE, lol
[00:18] <flipstar> hm seems like that
[00:18] <D0nMcN> the game runs off of IE
[00:18] <sigg2> D0nMcN: use windows
[00:18] <flipstar> dont forget to delete that D0nMcN
[00:18] <D0nMcN> sigg2: screw windows, lol
[00:18] <sigg2> signed
[00:18]  * sigg2 hopes some 1 can help him in stuck again...
[00:19] <flipstar> applehypnosis: here aint no developers i think
[00:19] <flipstar> try at #kubuntu-devel ..
[00:19] <sigg2> flipstar: im havin trouble with modprobe....
[00:19] <WorkingOnWise> does export/import of .dxf in k3d work?
[00:20] <flipstar> whats dxf ?
[00:20] <Flare183> WorkingOnWise: think so.
[00:20] <flipstar> i think k3b has .k3b ..
[00:20] <Flare183> DXF is a drawing format
[00:20] <Flare183> WorkingOnWise: and qcad uses it
[00:22] <WorkingOnWise> I need a 3d app that can export dxf so when my main app is ported to linux, or wine can run it stable, I don't have to recreate all my work. The info I found on the net for the plugins is very disorganized it seems. It left me with the impression that the plugin functionallity is verfy rough still
[00:23] <WorkingOnWise> and k3d looks like a great app to learn
[00:23] <flipstar> oh you said k3d ...
[00:23] <flipstar> i read k3b
[00:23] <WorkingOnWise> lol
[00:24] <WorkingOnWise> flipstar: thats y u were thinkin "y does he want to export to a drawing??"
[00:24] <WorkingOnWise> k3 B is a cd burning app right?
[00:24] <flipstar> right
[00:24] <vzduch> yep
[00:25] <WorkingOnWise> hmmm....iso to dxf.
[00:25] <WorkingOnWise> nah
[00:26] <flipstar> WorkingOnWise: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html .. seems *very* experimental ..
[00:28] <flipstar> you might try http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html like Flare said ...
[00:28] <Flare183> flipstar: yeap
[00:28] <flipstar> it definitiv fully supports dxf
[00:29] <Flare183> don't try using autodesk inventor, or autocad you can't really convert dmg to dxf with out windows
[00:29] <Flare183> sucks
[00:31] <D0nMcN> ies4linux is giving me loads of trouble
[00:32] <sigg2> http://coldfiresolutions.net/radio.php
[00:32] <sigg2> that work for eny 1
[00:33] <flipstar> hrhr i finally got cmdiag running :D
[00:34] <flipstar> im out now
[00:34] <flipstar> cya
[00:36] <D0nMcN> ok guys, i got the ies4linux thing open in the Konsole, now can you help me please with instaling it, its asking me for an input and i have no idea on what to put in
[00:37] <D0nMcN> (IE 6 for Kubuntu)
[00:37] <D0nMcN> I can copy the code somewhere, where is the pastebin?
[00:37] <bascule> sigg2: It buffers and hangs, no sound
[00:38] <bascule> !paste | D0nMcN
[00:38] <ubotu> D0nMcN: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:39] <D0nMcN> Here is the paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54006/
[00:42] <D0nMcN> Can somebody help me with installing IEs4Linux? I got this right here, and I'm unsure of what to do: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54006/
[00:44] <Jucato> oh wow... it has a new fancy GUI installer...
[00:44] <D0nMcN> Jucato, can you tell me what to do next?
[00:45] <D0nMcN> It says there's no user interface available, use the command-line version
[00:46] <Jucato> !find pygtk
[00:46] <ubotu> Found: python-pygtksourceview
[00:46] <Jucato> hm...
[00:47] <D0nMcN> Ohh, I just used ./ies4linux --no-gui, and now its download whats needed, now that it doesnt have to use a GUI
[00:47] <Jucato> yeah but it didn't ask you for options on what to install, where to install, etc
[00:47] <D0nMcN> It said it would install IE6, and Flash 9 by default
[00:47] <D0nMcN> which is actually EXACTLY what i need
[00:48] <Jucato> good luck then
[00:48] <Jucato> :)
[00:48] <D0nMcN> thanks Jucato
[00:48] <D0nMcN> yup, it's Installing IE6 and it downloaded Flash 9 :)
[00:49] <D0nMcN> OMG
[00:49] <D0nMcN> its working
[00:49] <Jucato> :D
[00:50] <vege> damn
[00:50] <Dr_willis> !ohmy
[00:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:51] <vege> yep
[00:51] <vege> hello world see my password
[00:51] <Dr_willis> Oh Beans! :)
[00:51] <vege> ok, new password  ; )
[00:51] <Dr_willis> i dident see no password.
[00:51] <vege> you didn't?
[00:51] <vege> trying to register nic
[00:52] <Dr_willis> i dident see any
[00:52] <vege> ok I try again
[00:53] <D0nMcN> can somebody explain to me how I can change from 32bit to 16bit color on Kubuntu 7.1
[00:56] <D0nMcN> can somebody explain to me how I can change from 32bit to 16bit color on Kubuntu 7.1
[00:59] <biovore> D0nMcN: change the depth line on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:59] <bipolar> D0nMcN: why do you need to do that?
[01:00] <Dr_willis> DefaultDepth    24
[01:00] <Dr_willis> DefaultDepth    16
[01:00] <Dr_willis> I think '32' is actually 24 for some reason.. i never have understood. :)
[01:00] <D0nMcN> okay after changed and saved, should i restart the computer?
[01:00] <Dr_willis> You need to restart X
[01:01] <Dr_willis> not the PC actually.
[01:01] <D0nMcN> I dont know how to restart X
[01:01] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace is one way to restart X
[01:01] <bipolar> lol
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Thats the 'kick it in the head' method.
[01:01] <bipolar> too late
[01:01] <Dr_willis> other way would be to restart the kdm service
[01:01] <bipolar> he's gone.... he hit alt-ctrl-backspace
[01:01] <Dr_willis> he dont know how to restart X - but he KNOWS he needs 16 bit color...
[01:01] <vege> can someone tell me how to login now I've created a registered nic?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> - /msg nickserv identofy password
[01:02] <Dr_willis> or i THINK /id password
[01:02] <vege> thnx
[01:02] <bipolar> vege: don't use an important password... it's to easy to leak
[01:02] <vege> I didn't  ; )
[01:02] <Dr_willis> use 'password' for your password. :) its easier to rember
[01:03] <bipolar> Dr_willis: I use ********
[01:03] <vege> I get a password incorrect message
[01:04] <D0nMcN> wow, lol that sure did make something restart alright
[01:04] <vege>  /cry
[01:04]  * Dr_willis loves peopel that ask 'im intering my password but its not showing any characters!' :)
[01:04] <bipolar> vege: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[01:04] <vege> use the <> marks?
[01:04] <bipolar> vege: no
[01:05] <bipolar> replace <password> with your actual password
[01:05] <D0nMcN> Can you tell me where the file to edit the color depth is again
[01:05] <vege> password incorrect
[01:05] <D0nMcN> I did that Alt, Ctrl and Backspace thing and it shut down everything and restarted KDE
[01:05] <Jucato> D0nMcN: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <vege> when will it prompt for username?
[01:06] <bipolar> D0nMcN: exactly :)
[01:06] <Jucato> D0nMcN: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarts X, which basically closes any GUI that is running (like all of KDE)
[01:06] <bipolar> D0nMcN: should have told you to logout first :)
[01:06] <D0nMcN> haha, oh well..
[01:06] <unix_lappy> Jucato: kills x
[01:06] <unix_lappy> doesnt restart
[01:07] <D0nMcN> okay I changed it and it didnt do what I wanted it to, so I can I change it back to 32?
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> unix_lappy: since when?
[01:07] <unix_lappy> dunno, but it kills x in 7.04
[01:07] <Jucato> unix_lappy: well, restarting X involves killing it... but in the case of restarting X, it starts up after killing it
[01:07] <vege> ok this is too frustrating, will come back later
[01:08] <D0nMcN> k brb
[01:08] <unix_lappy> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace      Kill X
[01:08] <unix_lappy> ^^^ from tldp
[01:08] <biovore> Daisuke_Ido: ctrl-alt-backspace has killed X since the beginning of X in 80's
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> as jucato said
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> it does kill and restart, at least for as long as i've been using linux (which, now that i think about it...  i'm still a noob...)
[01:09] <unix_lappy> semantics semantics...always in the way of the user.
[01:09] <Jucato> technically, it does kill X, but for this particular situation it restarts it as well
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> forgive my presumption
[01:09] <Jucato> (because of the DM)
[01:09] <bipolar> Daisuke_Ido: it just kills it... kdm, which is running, starts it back up :)
[01:10] <Jucato> (but do we have to bother them with that tiny detail in this case?)
[01:10] <unix_lappy> 19:09 < unix_lappy> semantics semantics...always in the way of the user.
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i learned something today.
[01:12] <bipolar> Jucato: eh... depends on who 'them' is. it might be useful to them at some point :)
[01:12] <Jucato> "at some point" is the key phrase
[01:13] <Jucato> s/them/him/ (referring to D0nMcN)
[01:14] <fram> hola
[01:14] <fram> hola
[01:15] <fram> Hi
[01:15] <fram> I new in kubuntu,it's funny
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> oookay, in the middle of the strangest discussion ever...
[01:15] <Willabee> Right now I use shockwave through firefox on WINE for an online class, but firefox freezes whenever I close the tab/window that uses shockwave.  Any way to reduce/stop crashes?
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> stop using shockwave
[01:15] <Willabee> -.-
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> serious answer:
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> try virtualbox
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not an ideal solution, but it's workable.  i've done it for classes i've had online
[01:16] <fram> Ok see you people ubuntu
[01:19] <Willabee> Does virtualbox use a lot of system resources?
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> it can.  it's roughly analogous to vmware or virtual pc, if you're familiar with those
[01:23] <Willabee> Hmm I just read that activating xp on vbox would disable activation on my original XP install
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Willabee, yes that is a big issue ./
[01:24] <Dr_willis> and you cant use like your dell/compaq/whatever xp  version either.
[01:24] <Willabee> I guess I'll just deal with firefox crashes for now then
[01:27] <D0nMcN> hey
[01:27] <maduser> were the problems with kde4 fixed?
[01:27] <D0nMcN> Can you give me the location of the GRUB file in order to change the default operating system to Win XP? I know how to change it, I'm just wondering where the GRUB file is.
[01:27] <maduser> its in boot
[01:27] <maduser> under GRUB
[01:28] <D0nMcN> so just run /boot/
[01:28] <maduser> no
[01:28] <maduser> got to /boot/grub
[01:28] <maduser> ls /boot/grub
[01:28] <D0nMcN> okay, i'm there
[01:28] <maduser> its menu.list
[01:28] <Jucato> !grub
[01:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <D0nMcN> thanks
[01:28] <Jucato> I think that info is in the GrubHowto page
[01:28] <D0nMcN> got it :)
[01:34] <mixed> !jack
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <malamsu> i installed an application from tarball, i want to remove it, how to do that?
[01:35] <unix_lappy> uninstall script within the tarball.
[01:36] <malamsu> there's no uninstall script
[01:36] <unix_lappy> then you shouldnt have installed.
[01:37] <malamsu> .... there's a script named make.py
[01:38] <unix_lappy> what's the app?
[01:38] <malamsu> whaawmp
[01:40] <sigg2> http://coldfiresolutions.net/radio.php coldfire radio is back online! msg me for song requests!
[01:40] <sigg2> something to jam out to while slaving over the keyboard
[01:41] <brian__> I have one quick question.. Why does Kubuntu crash so much?
[01:41] <maduser> what do you do?
[01:41] <brian__> I use it. And it crashes. All - the - time
[01:42] <maduser> what do you use it for?
[01:42] <brian__> For example, I was using Audacity, and I looked at the preferences, and it crashed.
[01:42] <Dragnslcr> Audacity crashed?
[01:43] <maduser> just hit crl alt backspace
[01:43] <brian__> I couldn't click on anything with the mouse. I had to Alt-F4 everything and then the mouse started working again
[01:44] <heinkel_111> brian___ i think the quick answer may be that your hardware suppliers haven't made open source drivers available for linux developers....
[01:44] <brian__> AMD, ATI and Sound Blaster?
[01:45] <heinkel_111> yes - those
[01:45] <brian__> That sucks. Which hardware suppliers has good support?
[01:46] <heinkel_111> for graphics: intel, for audio, haven't found one
[01:46] <Agent_bob> actually intel
[01:46] <brian__> That's what I've heard.. How big is the difference?
[01:47] <heinkel_111> anyway, now that you actually own the hardware it doesn't really help you to know this but think about it next time you but
[01:47] <heinkel_111> buy
[01:47] <heinkel_111> not but
[01:47]  * Agent_bob thinks about it before he buts
[01:47] <jace_> ok folks heres my problem: at KDM it wont start the xserver, it just loops back to the KDM login screen. but at the console login i can manually startX
[01:48] <jace_> and go tto my desktop
[01:48] <brian__> I've been planning on building a new computer here pretty soon.. which hardware venders are a good choice? Intel for the processer..?
[01:48] <fignew> jace_: you've tried different profiles?
[01:49] <jace_> no not yet. like make a new login?
[01:49] <mixed> anyone in here ever used DJPlay?
[01:49] <NickPresta> brian__, processor wise, I would imagine AMD/Intel are both fine. Stay away from ATI GPUs. The rest should be pretty well supported if it's popular.
[01:49] <fignew> jace_: at KDM, select a different profile... KDE, terminal, failsafe, etc
[01:50] <jace_> oh yeah and same thing
[01:50] <jace_> sorry
[01:50] <brian__> Stay away from ATI?? That sucks! I hate Nvidia lol
[01:50] <Agent_bob> !hardware | brian__
[01:50] <ubotu> brian__: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[01:50] <NickPresta> brian__, what's wrong with nvidia?
[01:50] <fignew> jace_: do you have a .xinitrc?
[01:50] <fignew> in your home dir?
[01:50] <jace_> let me look one sec
[01:50] <Agent_bob> i wish my nvidia card was supported
[01:51] <NickPresta> Agent_bob, which card?
[01:51] <Agent_bob> riva128 agp
[01:51] <fedor> how do I get back update notifier that usually sits in system tray
[01:51] <NickPresta> fedor, when a new update comes in, it should appear :)
[01:51] <jace_> im gonna say negative
[01:51] <brian__> I've always been an ATI guy.. and they don't support aftermarket drivers
[01:52] <fedor> NickPresta, lol yeh but it doesnt I have been doing updates manually for a month now
[01:52] <fignew> jace_: make one, and put startkde in it
[01:52] <jace_> k
[01:52] <fignew> then restart KDM and select default
[01:52] <Agent_bob> NickPresta no need wasting your time on it.  you'll find that they say use the old driver but it doesn't work with that particular card
[01:53] <Agent_bob> old = legacy
[01:54] <brian__> You know, when ever I play any time of 3D game either on Kubuntu normaly, or through wine, I get horrible FPS.. Could that be because my ATI 9600?
[01:54] <jace_> brb
[01:54] <NickPresta> Agent_bob, I know. I saw the card name and figured the old drivers were borked with that card.
[01:55] <fignew> brian__: yep :)
[01:55] <Agent_bob> NickPresta yeah and it's sad because it's actually a pretty decent card
[01:56] <brian__> So if I had an nVidia, it would run allot better?
[01:56] <fignew> brian__: yes
[01:56] <brian__> =( lol
[01:56] <fedor> NickPresta: adept_notifier!! thats what I was looking for
[01:56] <fignew> brian__: though, you might be able to get your current card working
[01:56] <fignew> better than it is right now atleast
[01:56] <brian__> fignew, I would rather just have a card that is plug in play and ready to go.
[01:57] <wimpies> i have gutsy installed and see that the kernel config shows CONFIG_SMP not set.  Is there an SMP kubuntu kernel ?
[01:57] <Agent_bob> brian__ i sympathize with the "plug and get mad" card issue.
[01:58] <fignew> brian__: nvidias are pretty plug and play... you only need to run one command ;)
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> wimpies- I think the -generic kernel should have SMP support
[01:58] <biovore> yup up 2 8 cores
[02:06] <Dr_willis> I used to perfer ati ages ago... Now i have to say. with Linux. Its still  Best to use Nvidia.
[02:07] <Dr_willis> even under windows.. I have to favor Nvidia - just because they seemt o have less hassles.
[02:08] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: actually, ati on windows is really quite easy.
[02:08] <unix_lappy> it's just linux that's so crazy hard, even after the amd buyout, even after the users yelling at them.
[02:09] <unix_lappy> which is why media companies who have engineers who work with opengl and linux (which is quite a lot lately) are gaining momentum
[02:09] <Dr_willis> unix_lappy,  given the issues ive had with it in the past.. I dissagree.. :)  I switched to Nvidia about a yr ago. and havent looked back.
[02:09] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: I havent bought a computer in the last couple years.
[02:09] <tekteen> I just pick whatever is cheap :-)
[02:09] <unix_lappy> so i couldnt tell ya.
[02:09] <Dr_willis> its was nice how ati and nvidia kept leap frogging each other with new cards.. but seems now they are just all forcing more gpus on the same card.
[02:09] <tekteen> and works with linux
[02:10] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: i think the AMD ATI buyout was a bigggg mistake.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> I got a ati 9800  (i think) was the last ati card i got.
[02:10] <unix_lappy> they spread themselves too thin, and didnt manage resources to compete with c2d
[02:10] <Dr_willis> I dont plan on getting ati any more in the future. Unless they do some major changes.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Now if only Intel would focus on making some decent offerings and give us a 3 way competition.
[02:11] <unix_lappy> they have no reason in the world too.
[02:11] <unix_lappy> to*
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Its downright amazing the power of todays video cards. and gee the games Still manage to suck it all down.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> I keep hearing that Intel is looking into it. but so far just rumors. :)
[02:11] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: it doesnt work that way, games build against future trends in technology, because it takes so long to get a game out.
[02:12] <Dr_willis> then ya get 90% of the market that cant play a new game. :) catch-22
[02:12] <Dr_willis> Crysis was at least playable on my box. after i turned it down a bit.
[02:12] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: no you get 90% who cant play, 10% who can (the l33t) who then talk down to the n00bs who cant afford the latest hardware.
[02:12] <unix_lappy> which leads to more buying.
[02:13]  * Agent_bob doesn't upgrade
[02:13] <Dr_willis> we will see what next years trends will be.  $500 video cards are getting hard to justify.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Mine was $300 :P
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Then 2 months later nvidia came out with a cheaper - faster card heh.. for less.
[02:14] <regeya> heh, glad I usually don't game :->
[02:14] <Agent_bob> $300 computer is impossable for me to justify, seeing that they throw perfectly good three to five year old pc in the trash every day.
[02:14] <regeya> if i did, I'd buy some sort of console.  $400 for a ps3 seems more reasonable when people talk about dropping that kind of coin on a gfx card
[02:15] <Dr_willis> I get in a game mood for a while.. then i get in a linux mood for a while.. or i go play the wii for a few days.. or watch videos...
[02:15] <Dr_willis> I am wanting SPORE when it comes out. :) and Perhaps  savage 2
[02:16] <unix_lappy> Dr_willis: lol, you mean the ps 9 SPORE?
[02:17] <jace_> ok fignew i had no love. i even had to can that file too because it messed up my reslution.
[02:17] <jace_> this is kinda waht happen i think
[02:17] <jace_> i was trying to install a theme for KDM
[02:18] <jace_> and had to manually copy the file to the theme folder
[02:18] <jace_> also i prior to that i had reinstalled the KDM manager
[02:18] <jace_> i read some where it might be a permissions issue ? but i have no clue
[02:19] <Agent_bob> ls -l   the dir you copied it to
[02:20] <jace_> the theme? no it copied to /usr/share/apps/kde3/kdm/theme
[02:20] <jace_> ohh
[02:20] <jace_> one sec
[02:20] <jace_> hehe
[02:20] <Agent_bob> ;/
[02:24]  * Dr_willis goes back to reading the latest riaa/mpaa/copy right wars - news. :)
[02:24] <Dr_willis> I cant help but wonder what the Music Industry would do if EVERYONE boycotted all music (downloads and cd sales and radio) for a month...
[02:25]  * Agent_bob believes that "copy right" should be illegal
[02:26]  * regeya wants Agent_bob's nick
[02:26] <intelikey> have it
[02:26]  * regeya wants intelikey's nick
[02:27] <jace_> agent bob
[02:27]  * Dr_willis is Known as MS Bob.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:27] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-01-29 10:51 circles
[02:27] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-01-29 10:51 Debian
[02:27] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-03-13 09:14 hardDrive
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-01-29 10:51 Krystal
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-10-16 15:09 kubuntu
[02:28] <intelikey> those look like symlinks
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-10-16 15:09 kubuntu-no-userlist
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-01-29 10:51 Linux Passion
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2006-03-01 00:32 LoveKDE_KDM Theme-0.1
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-07-08 10:09 Plasma-Wind
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-05-10 09:13 spline
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-01-29 10:51 true-nature
[02:28] <jace_> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-09-30 07:42 Xi
[02:28] <Dr_willis> that seems odd permissions for those things
[02:28] <intelikey> that looks like a flood
[02:28]  * regeya wants to use the name 'Linux' to sell a line of sex toys
[02:28] <jace_> sorry
[02:28] <tekteen> !paste | jace_
[02:28] <ubotu> jace_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Linusex
[02:28] <intelikey> Dr_willis symlinks are always 777
[02:28] <regeya> but I can't due to a trademark.
[02:28] <regeya> EVIL LINUX
[02:29] <regeya> also, I want to sell a line of Ubuntu snack chips with the ubuntu logo, without first consulting with anyone.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> use  Li'Nux
[02:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:29] <jace_> off topic
[02:29] <Dr_willis> There is a Laundry Soap called Linux I belive.. somewhere. :P
[02:30] <intelikey> i pronounce Li'Nux ... Li'Nux
[02:30] <jace_> deos KDE4 support compiz
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[02:30] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:30] <Dr_willis> KDE4 has its own alternative.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> So compiz is not needed with kde4
[02:30] <Dr_willis> Not to say that kde4's alternative works very well.......
[02:31] <intelikey> sorry. jace_ those are not links and the permission is incorrect.
[02:31] <jace_> k
[02:31] <jace_> so how can i fix that?
[02:32] <intelikey> chmod 755 the dir    i.e.  sudo chmod 755 /usr/share/apps/kde3/kdm/theme* /usr/share/apps/kde3/kdm/theme*/*
[02:33] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a /usr/share/apps/kde3/kdm/
[02:33] <intelikey> me either but that's what he said it was.
[02:33] <Marilyn_2> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com !!! Come, join, enjoy and share adult materials ! Maybe, admins make you moderator or others, too ! See you there ! :)
[02:33] <intelikey> so i'm not arguing about it.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> so its VERY possible he installed the themes to the wrong place.
[02:35] <intelikey> yes. but whether or not that happened you don't want something like a global themes dir world writable
[02:36] <intelikey> kdm is suid root you know
[02:36] <niall> is there away to force fullscreen apps to run windowed in WINE?
[02:37] <intelikey> let me rephrase. kdm runs as root.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> I cant even find the kdm theme changer tool :)
[02:38] <niall> Dr_willis: it's not installed by default
[02:38] <Dr_willis> I did just install it. :P
[02:38] <niall> ;D
[02:38] <Dr_willis> there it is. under kcontrol
[02:38] <niall> in that case it's in the appearnce bit
[02:38] <niall> with the themes
[02:38] <niall> yer
[02:38] <niall> now tell me how to make stuff run windowed in WINE :P
[02:39] <Dr_willis>  /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/circles
[02:39] <Dr_willis> is where my kdm themes are at.
[02:40] <intelikey> i might use kde more often than i do if it didn't restart xorg fortyleven times when it starts up....   that borks my non-suported nvidia card.
[02:40] <romunov> i need some help
[02:40] <romunov> i shut down my machine by hybernate
[02:40] <romunov> and now i can't get it back into x
[02:40] <romunov> all i can access is the console
[02:40] <romunov> what's the command to run kde from the command line?
[02:41] <intelikey> romunov   sudo init 3       see if it doesn't fix it.   if not     sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[02:43] <intelikey> but the simple answer to your question was "startx"   not what i think you really want, but that is what you asked.
[02:45] <romunov_> hum
[02:45] <romunov_> it worked :D
[02:45] <romunov_> now i need to find the command window where i'm running irssi from :)
[02:45] <romunov_> alt+F1 isn't working
[02:45] <jawee> intelikey: startkde ?
[02:45] <intelikey> alt+ctrl+f1
[02:46] <intelikey> jawee no. not if xorg is not running.
[02:46] <intelikey> jawee and if it is you'll have to export DISPLAY=':0' first anyway
[02:46] <jawee> intelikey: Well, you said to start KDE. I wasn't following the conversation, I apoligize
[02:47] <intelikey> not a problem
[02:47] <romunov> intelikey: yeah, that worked just fine
[02:47] <romunov> thanks
[02:47] <intelikey> jawee the key post was "<romunov> and now i can't get it back into x"
[02:48] <jace_> sorry  that was /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes
[02:48] <jace_> the kde3 is from another folder
[02:49] <jace_> so if i unisntall KDM what will be in its palce/
[02:49] <jace_> *place?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> why do you want to uninstall kdm?
[02:49] <jace_> i really dont
[02:50] <intelikey> jace_ you can use gdm or xdm
[02:50]  * Dr_willis is totally lost then.
[02:50]  * intelikey prefers gdm over kdm
[02:50] <jace_> but basically my prob is i cant get past the login screen. unless i go console and startx
[02:51] <Dr_willis> jace_,  so what happens exactly then when you try using kdm?
[02:51] <jace_> at the login screen i can type in my pass and hit go but it takes me back to the login screen
[02:51] <Dr_willis> try making a new user. see if it affects them also. - as a test.
[02:51] <jawee> jace_: have you tried reconfiguring the kdm package?
[02:52] <jace_> no i have not. the only thing i did was reinstall it when it wouldnt install the theme itslef
[02:52] <jace_> ok let me try a new user
[02:52] <linos2> can someone tell me why I receieve this error message....     http://www.pastebin.org/17322
[02:52] <Dr_willis> if it was a kdm theme causing the issue..i wouldent think it would be crashing  after kdm closes..
[02:53] <intelikey> linos2 yep.   that's not an error. it's a feature.
[02:54] <intelikey> linos2 the ubuntu team did that intentionally,  in case you happen to have any wacom devices
[02:54] <intelikey> !wacom
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <intelikey> seveas why do you remove every informative infonode !
[02:54] <linos2> intelikey, oh ok.  I was looking all over the net for that answer, but couldn't find it.  thank you very much
[02:55] <Dr_willis> !tablet
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <jace_> k my xsession log is full of sudo  errors and such where can i post this for viewing?
[02:55] <jace_> ohhh
[02:55] <jace_> wait one sec
[02:55]  * klobster sits down
[02:56] <Dr_willis> work time for me. bye all.
[02:56] <intelikey> linos2 welcome,  and there "used to be" a good infonode in the ubotu list.  it now seems to be missing.    you can check the forums for "wacom" if you want to stop that error message from happening.
[02:56] <intelikey> !paste | jace_
[02:56] <ubotu> jace_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <linos2> intelikey, wouldn't I just comment that wacom out under my .conf file???
[02:58] <intelikey> linos2 the entire sections for the devices and the listings in the server section   yes.
[02:59] <intelikey> there will be three section.  and then three lines in the server section  iirc.
[02:59] <jace_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54010/
[03:00] <jace_> hope that helps
[03:01] <intelikey> jace_ can the new user account login ?
[03:02] <jace_> oh i cant admin the setting manager im gonan have to restart
[03:02] <jace_> but ill be back in about 15 min
[03:02] <intelikey> jace_ wait.
[03:02] <jace_> k
[03:02] <intelikey> as your normal user in the console, do this.    sudo echo works
[03:03] <jace_> sudo must be setuid root
[03:04] <intelikey> jace_ mount | grep ' / '
[03:05] <jace_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54015/
[03:05] <intelikey> jace_ ?  it should only be one line...
[03:06] <jace_> hmmm
[03:06] <jace_> one sec
[03:06] <intelikey> jace_ it's ok.  that shows me what i needed to see.   ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[03:06] <klobster> intelikey: not one line
[03:07] <intelikey> klobster yes one line
[03:07] <jace_> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 91776 2007-06-15 05:49 /usr/bin/sudo
[03:07] <intelikey> ok. jace_ did you issue a command like this   sudo chmod -R 777 /        or something ?
[03:07] <klobster> intelikey: ahh, skipped a space ;)
[03:08] <jace_> i did
[03:08] <jace_> i did
[03:08] <jace_> it was for that bookmarks error
[03:08] <heinkel_111> !português
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about português - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <heinkel_111> no portuguese language kubuntu channel?
[03:09] <intelikey> jace_ you have totally hosed your permissions.    welcome to the "i just learned another 'never do this' lesson"  club,   and it's going to be easier to reinstall than to fix that.
[03:09] <jace_> . . .
[03:09] <jace_> booo
[03:09]  * intelikey remembers doing the same thing long ago. 
[03:09] <jace_> ok
[03:09] <jace_> so
[03:09] <intelikey> jace_ sorry dude.     that's almost as good as   rm -r /
[03:10] <jace_> can i reisntall without messignn with my home folder?
[03:10] <klobster> ubotu is lacking today
[03:10] <jace_> i had a feelin
[03:10] <intelikey> or cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda    or the hundreds of other "never do this"'s
[03:10] <klobster> !portuguese
[03:10] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[03:10] <jace_> lol man i was so proud oif my nix install. lasted 3 mon flawless
[03:11] <intelikey> jace_ well one good thing.   i bet you never use chmod recursively out side your home dir again....
[03:11] <jace_> indeed
[03:11] <jace_> man
[03:12] <intelikey> good luck with the reload jace_
[03:12] <jace_> ok so can i blow out ' / '  and tell the install not to mess with /home?
[03:12] <intelikey> yes
[03:12] <jace_> and my hoem folder will remain intact? will i ahve to make a new user?
[03:12] <intelikey> BUT you should still fix your perms in your home
[03:12] <biovore> or you can tar up your homedir and back it up somewhere..
[03:13] <intelikey> biovore that would preserve the messed up perms tho.
[03:13] <jace_> awesome you folks rock for helping me out
[03:14] <jace_> alrigth i got lots to do thanks for the help be back again for more ;)
[03:14] <intelikey> so it's not really any better than doing a   chmod 750 -R $HOME ;find $HOME/ -type f -exec chmod 640 '{}' \;
[03:15] <intelikey> he left to quick to catch that....
[03:15] <Negatratoron> Do y'all have time now for a question about amarok and segmentation faults?
[03:16] <intelikey> plenty of time, no experance.
[03:16] <Negatratoron> Okay, well, let's try
[03:16] <intelikey> maybe someone can help.   so ask anyway
[03:16] <Negatratoron> k
[03:16] <Negatratoron> Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.Amarok: [Loader] amarokapp probably crashed!
[03:16] <Negatratoron> That's what I get when starting Amarok from the terminal
[03:17] <Negatratoron> If I run amarokapp, it just says segmentation fault
[03:17] <Negatratoron> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:17] <NickPresta> Negatratoron, and this is for KDE 3.5.X, on Gutsy, using Amarok from the repos?
[03:17] <norv> who knows about the switch from locate to strigi when using the locate: kioslave?
[03:17] <Negatratoron> Yes, KDE 3.5...
[03:17] <Negatratoron> yes, repos
[03:18] <Negatratoron> Kubuntu 7.10, and I don't know the acronym for that
[03:18] <niall> so
[03:18] <NickPresta> Negatratoron, okay. 7.10 is Gutsy.
[03:18] <niall> no way to make a full screen windows app windowed with WINE? ;/
[03:18] <Negatratoron> k
[03:18] <intelikey> code name != acronym    ;/
[03:18] <Negatratoron> yeah...
[03:18] <Negatratoron> lol@bad.word.choice
[03:19] <norv> oh hmm, appears locate: is the standard locate kio and Find: is the strigi one. imo strigi is kind of misbehaved
[03:19] <norv> it edits the address line when you are changing it..
[03:19] <NickPresta> Negatratoron, personally, I can't read a backtrace and I don't know what could be causing amarok to crash. I would ask in #amarok, find a way to get the backtrace and hope someone can diagnose the problem. You can then submit a bug to Kubuntu if the problem isn't specific to your machine...
[03:19] <klobster> niall wineconfig
[03:19] <Negatratoron> Okay, thank you
[03:20] <intelikey> Negatratoron strace command
[03:20] <NickPresta> Negatratoron, I wish we could be of more help but I would imagine a seg. fault and crashing is something the Amarok people would like to look at (and eventually the Kubuntu devs if it is a serious problem).
[03:20] <Negatratoron> Okay
[03:20] <Negatratoron> Thank you
[03:21] <intelikey> you can redirrect the output to a file      strace amarokapp.Amarok 2>filename
[03:21] <Negatratoron> Okay, that would help
[03:21] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a command to "restart" usb ports
[03:21] <intelikey> err might want both stdout and stderr   idk.
[03:21] <Negatratoron> If y'all can't help, I'll just stay here because I might end up helping someone else...
[03:21] <Negatratoron> But thank you anyway
[03:22] <NickPresta> Negatratoron, that's a good philosophy. Most people here stay to help others even when their problem is resolved.
[03:22] <niall> wineconfig claims I don't have wine installed then tries to install things
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> Or because we don't have lives
[03:23] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, that too ;)
[03:23] <intelikey> Negatratoron wish i could... but i don't use amarok,      (nor xorg for that matter).     so i'm pretty useless on trubble shooting gui apps.
[03:23] <klobster> niall: try system settings,  advanced tab: windows applications?
[03:23] <intelikey> Dragnslcr you didn't have to point out the obvious  !!!
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> Haha
[03:24] <Negatratoron> Actually, that's true too...
[03:24] <Negatratoron> No life...
[03:24] <niall> it says I don't have WINE installed
[03:24] <niall> when I do :z
[03:25] <klobster> niall apt-get update?
[03:25] <niall> nothing
[03:26] <klobster> niall: from a console?
[03:26] <niall> yes
[03:26] <niall> no updates I mean
[03:26] <klobster> niall: what is the exact error you get when clicking on the windows application tab in system settings
[03:26] <intelikey> ob- over,  -vious the way or the path.    obvious = just over the way, or just accross the way.   </useless information rant>
[03:27] <niall> http://pastebin.com/m2b172202
[03:27] <niall> I press yes
[03:27] <ahmos> Hi I have Installed a fresh kubuntu now but when I open the notifications Icon in system settings I recieve the crash handler window!!
[03:28] <klobster> niall: and then?
[03:28] <niall> then it just says 'It appears taht yuo do not have wine installed. wine can be used to run some programs designed for Windows. Please install the wine package to get this functionality.'
[03:28] <niall> that's it, all I can do is go back to the overview
[03:29] <klobster> niall: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:29] <klobster> niall: it can't hurt
[03:29] <niall> I already have wine installed
[03:29] <niall> I tried that
[03:29] <intelikey> niall dpkg -l | grep wine
[03:29] <klobster> niall: did you install from the repos?
[03:30] <tuxwulf3> In Kontact, how to switch off the left sidebar?
[03:30] <niall> http://pastebin.com/m5345c6db
[03:30] <intelikey> ok you definitely have wine installed.
[03:30] <niall> I might uninstall it
[03:30] <intelikey> and fully installed correctly
[03:31] <niall> then try and let it install from the settings menu
[03:31] <niall> it tries to download a package or something, but the bar just goes to the end straight away
[03:31] <niall> I assume because I have it already
[03:31] <intelikey> what process is giving the "you don't appear to have wine" error ?
[03:31] <niall> then it tells me I don't
[03:31] <niall> the system settings wine bit
[03:31] <niall> Windows Applications
[03:31] <intelikey> that's a bug
[03:32] <niall> ;o
[03:32] <niall> Kubuntu has too many of those
[03:32] <intelikey> yes it does
[03:33] <niall> I have a directx fullscreen app
[03:33] <niall> but I want to run it windowed
[03:33] <intelikey> and any distro that tries to churn out a full release every six months will have too many bugs to suite my taste.
[03:33] <niall> any ideas?
[03:33] <intelikey> sorry not a clue here.
[03:33] <niall> ;/
[03:33] <klobster> suite?
[03:33] <intelikey> well drop the e if you don't like it
[03:34] <klobster> niall: try also winecfg from console
[03:34] <Uplink> hello, im using Backtrack2 live CD and i want to install a package
[03:34]  * klobster drops the e
[03:34] <Uplink> =/
[03:34] <niall> I can't find any option to make things run windowed ;/
[03:35] <klobster> niall: did it run?
[03:35] <niall> yes
[03:35] <intelikey> Uplink is backtrack2 a ubuntu cd ?
[03:35] <Uplink> nope... its slackware i believe
[03:36] <Uplink> KDE?
[03:36] <intelikey> Uplink then why are you asking in here ?
[03:36] <Uplink> coz the commands are the same... i think
[03:36] <intelikey> /join #slackware
[03:36] <Uplink> same way to install a package
[03:36] <intelikey> Uplink no they are not.
[03:36] <klobster> niall: did it open op the wine configuration window?
[03:36] <NickPresta> Uplink, slackware has slapt-get, I believe. Slackware isn't like Kubuntu though
[03:36] <intelikey> ubuntu uses .deb packages slack uses  .tgz packages
[03:37] <niall> klobster: yes
[03:37] <Uplink> yes...
[03:37] <Uplink> and how do u install them?
[03:37] <klobster> niall: click the applications tab and select add application
[03:37] <niall> ok
[03:37] <Uplink> i tried looking for FAQ on installing packages and I found non
[03:37] <NickPresta> Uplink, ask in the slackware channel. This is for Kubuntu only
[03:38] <intelikey> Uplink with what ever installer slack uses now
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> Uplink- what makes you think a Kubuntu channel would know anything about a distro that we've never even heard of?
[03:38] <Uplink> sorry...
[03:38] <niall> now what?
[03:39] <intelikey> Uplink while linux is linux is linux at the kernel level, they diverge verquiclky above that.
[03:39] <klobster> niall: once you have selected your app, click on settings, then graphics, then
[03:39] <intelikey> verquiclky/very quickly/
[03:39] <klobster> checkmark the "allow the window manager to control the windows" option
[03:39] <niall> ok
[03:40] <ahmos> Hi, I have Installed a fresh kubuntu now but when I open the notifications Icon in system settings I recieve the crash handler window instead, any ideas ?!!
[03:40] <klobster> you can do the same thing in the main graphics tab to set it universally
[03:40] <niall> hang on
[03:40] <niall> brb
[03:42] <niall> ok
[03:42] <niall> I ticked the box
[03:42] <klobster> niall: you can do the same thing in the main graphics tab to set it universally
[03:42] <klobster> niall: that should be it
[03:42] <niall> still goes fullscreen though :x
[03:43] <klobster> niall: doh! try "emulate a virtual desktop"
[03:43] <klobster> my bad
[03:44] <niall> that doesn't seem to have changed anything :x
[03:44] <klobster> what is your screen size?
[03:44] <niall> 1600x1200
[03:44] <klobster> what are the virtual desktop settings
[03:45] <niall> 640x480
[03:45] <klobster> did you change in the app, or in the main graphics tab?
[03:45] <niall> graphics tab
[03:46] <klobster> try in the app just to be safe, also what is the program?
[03:46] <niall> the virtual desktop thing doesn't seem to do antyhing
[03:46] <niall> like if I run notepad
[03:47] <niall> I can still maximise it to my full desktop, yuo'd think it would only maximise to 640x480 or something?
[03:47] <klobster> notepad runs in full screen?
[03:47] <niall> no
[03:47] <niall> ;p
[03:47] <Agent_bob> it can
[03:47] <niall> I dunno what emulate a virtual desktop is supposed to be doing
[03:48] <klobster> it creates a windowed area for running windows apps
[03:48] <niall> doesn't for me :(
[03:48] <niall> how do you get the area?
[03:49] <Negatratoron> Ah-ha!  I'm missing a libGLcore.so.1
[03:49] <Agent_bob> yuch wine is 41.4MB !
[03:49] <biovore> better the 2GB for windows :-P
[03:50]  * Agent_bob mumbles that he can run windows in less than 50m
[03:50] <klobster> niall: brb
[03:51] <genii> Agent_bob: Well, thats what comes from the neccesity of reverse-engineering
[03:52] <Agent_bob> heck. i dual boot windows and linux on a single 210m hdd lappy
[03:52] <Agent_bob> genii yeah i guess so
[03:52] <Agent_bob> coffee ?
[03:53]  * genii makes another pot of coffee for those that need some
[03:53] <brian__> How on earth do I change the size of the Icons on my desktop and K Menu?
[03:54] <klobster> niall: I don't know what to tell you; I just tested the emulate virtual desktop (with notepad, BTW), and it seems to work flawlessly...
[03:54] <niall> :(
[03:55] <niall> what happens when you run notepad?
[03:55]  * Agent_bob now searches franticly for a windows app........... 
[03:55] <klobster> niall: maybe try a reinstall
[03:55] <niall> of wine?
[03:55] <klobster> niall: hold on I will upload a screenshot
[03:57] <Nega> Okay, I think that Nvidia drivers are my second worst nightmare...
[03:58] <Nega> My worst nightmare is GRUB...
[03:58] <Nega> Do y'all have any experience with Envy?
[03:58]  * genii is tempted to !envy
[03:59] <genii> Nega: It's not a recommended way to install drivers
[03:59] <Nega> Okay
[03:59] <Nega> Why not?
[03:59] <genii> !envy
[03:59] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:59] <Nega> Okay
[03:59] <Nega> Well...
[03:59] <Nega> Okay
[03:59] <Nega> That didn't work the first time
[03:59] <Nega> Well...
[03:59] <Nega> Okay, I'll try it
[03:59] <klobster> niall: http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrc6.jpg
 My worst nightmare is GRUB... <<<  :)
[04:00] <klobster> niall: yes a reinstall of wine
[04:01] <niall> my wine config is differentt o that
[04:01] <klobster> ??
[04:01] <niall> right
[04:01] <niall> i got rid of wine
[04:01] <niall> how should i install it again?
[04:02] <klobster> apt-get install
[04:02] <niall> ok
[04:03] <AdmPaul> Hey, I'm trying to install a .deb file and it's giving me "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable." Any ideas on what I can do?
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> Install the dependencies
[04:04] <ahmos> hi, is there a way to know if my system files is not corrupted or there is a ile missing?!!
[04:04] <Agent_bob> niall you do realize that reinstalling a package will not affect anything (including configs) in your home dir   and unless you use the purge option it probably wont affect configs in the /etc dir either,    don't you ?
[04:04] <niall> i used the purge option
[04:05] <niall> and i deleted the .wine folder in my home directory
[04:05] <Agent_bob> ok.
[04:05] <Agent_bob> just making sure.
[04:06] <niall> http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2413/snapshot16fn5.png
[04:07] <niall> awesome
[04:07] <niall> it works now
[04:07] <niall> ;D
[04:08] <Agent_bob> ah man.  i've got a major disk malfunction.    ls /mnt/disk2     and it's constipated   just sitting there.  can't even ^C to kill the ls command.
[04:08] <niall> brb
[04:08] <klobster> what is disk2?
[04:08] <Agent_bob> hdd
[04:09] <klobster> ata, sata external internal?
[04:09] <Agent_bob> ide
[04:09] <Agent_bob> ide ata
[04:09] <klobster> bad mojo
[04:09] <Agent_bob> mojo ?
[04:09] <klobster> ctrl-z and wait it out?
[04:10] <klobster> mojo is like huju but more serious
[04:10] <Agent_bob> no. it's an apm thing i think.  but i can't ctrl* and that was the root console ...  so im rootless until something gives.
[04:11] <Agent_bob> looks like a reboot if i need root
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> There's always the big shiny button
[04:11] <klobster> kickk it with sudo hdparm from a user console?
[04:11] <Agent_bob> you mean the one on the front of the box ?
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[04:12] <ahmos> Hi everybody,I need help please,I have installed kubuntu now but when I click the notification icon it don't start and I recieve a systen settings crash window....does this means my system files is corrupted during installation?!!
[04:12] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr i have two.  a little shiny one that does hard reset and a big shiny that does power off   :)
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[04:12] <klobster> tell niall goodluck, I gotta go
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> They should both work
[04:13]  * klobster heads down to the corner bar
[04:13] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr i think   ctrl+alt+del from another console would be better
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> I dunno about "better"
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> Probably the same
[04:13] <brian__> How on earth do I change the size of the Icons on my desktop and K Menu?
[04:13] <Agent_bob> no. it will umount the root fs
[04:14] <Agent_bob> the shiny buttons don't
[04:14]  * Agent_bob opts for a reboot.   back in 15minutes or so....  (maybe less)
[04:17] <Agent_bob> i wonder why apm/acpi can stop the disk but can't start it like it should....
[04:19] <niall> bah
[04:19] <Agent_bob> bah ?    pfft !
[04:19] <niall> WINE is dumb
[04:20] <Agent_bob> wine is wine is not an emulator
[04:20] <Agent_bob> and dumb
[04:20] <niall> :(
[04:21] <Agent_bob> wow. wine is also broken.  it wasn't apm it was wine that locked that disk up.
[04:21] <niall> this doesn't make any sense
[04:23] <Agent_bob> kill -9 2516 ;pid | grep ls
[04:23] <Agent_bob>  2516 tty23    D+     0:00 ls --color=auto /mnt/win95/windows/ -lR
[04:23] <Agent_bob> can't kill ls   it's hung because wine is running   2512 ttyp0    D+     0:00 /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wine-preloader /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wine-pthread /mnt/win95/windows/StartupCPL.exe
[04:24] <genii> Agent_bob: I assume thats the control panel startup
[04:25] <Agent_bob> genii not exactly.  it's startup control panel   a small windows app to configure what all is started automaticly
[04:26] <Agent_bob> and i can't kill it
[04:26] <Agent_bob> and it wont move.
[04:26] <Agent_bob> has the disk hung.   can't ls the mountpoint
[04:26] <Agent_bob> killed the gui but didn't affect the hung wine
[04:27] <Agent_bob> nor the hung ls.    i can try the magic sysRQ on them.  >:]
[04:27] <genii> Agent_bob: ps ax|grep wine
[04:27] <Agent_bob>  2512 ?        D      0:00 /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wine-preloader /usr/bin/../lib/../bin/wine-pthread /mnt/win95/windows/StartupCPL.exe
[04:28] <ubuntu> exit
[04:28] <ubuntu> quit
[04:28] <genii> ubuntu: /quit
[04:29] <Agent_bob> slash command
[04:29] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~] kill -9 2512
[04:29] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~] kill -9 2512
[04:29] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~] kill -9 2512
[04:29] <genii> Agent_bob: Perhaps sudo is needed
[04:29] <Agent_bob> that's not a bounce.  that was repetes of the same command.  no affect
[04:29] <Agent_bob> genii    ^   root.
[04:30] <genii> Agent_bob: Ah, I see now...was looking for $ or # and not name@
[04:30] <genii> Agent_bob: Any remnant windows on desktop from it?
[04:31]  * Agent_bob doesn't subscribe to \$
[04:31] <Agent_bob> desktop ?    i said i killed the gui
[04:31] <Agent_bob> as in xorg is not running
[04:33] <genii> Agent_bob: Since you're running as root permissions to the mount likely aren't the problem
[04:34] <Agent_bob> heh. no.   and the mount is not the problem   i tested it before running the wine command and after.  on issue befor and anything that tries to access the drive after wine started hangs.
[04:34] <dawiz> anyone know how to get dvds to play in kubuntu?
[04:34] <Agent_bob> !dvd
[04:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:34] <dawiz> ahhh
[04:34] <dawiz> cool
[04:35] <dawiz> apt-get?
[04:35] <Agent_bob> read the link
[04:35] <apparle_> I want a good website designer and I am new to html coding
[04:35] <Agent_bob> ^ hehhe    i want,  and i'm leaving  ....     lol
[04:36] <genii> Yes, weird
[04:38] <genii> Agent_bob: Do top or lsof show the process doing something?
[04:38] <Agent_bob> well this thing isn't going to fix itself.  that's two major issues i have to grip about now.    you can't remount / ro if you use loop to mount an image unless you go through a major rmmod process first.   and wine hangs disks.     i'll remove wine and solve that.  but the other is a kernel bug.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> genii no
[04:38] <Agent_bob> they are just jung.
[04:39] <genii> Agent_bob: Yeah looks buggy. BTW you can get later wine debian package off tgheir site
[04:39] <genii> *their
[04:40] <Agent_bob> i was only going to play with wine to see if i could help....  errummm what's his name.   found myself needing help   heh.
[04:40] <genii> heh
[04:40] <dhuv> hello all
[04:40] <Agent_bob> dhuv
[04:40] <apparle> I want a good website designer. I am new to html coding
[04:40] <Agent_bob> well i'm going to sysRQ it and if that don't kill it i'll reboot.
[04:41] <dhuv> I was wondering how I can go about finding out which script called when I do "alt + ctrl + del" and choose Suspend
[04:41] <Agent_bob> be back when i get back.
[04:41] <Agent_bob> dhuv kdm handles that i think.
[04:42] <dhuv> Agent_bob: is there a way I can call that from the command line?
[04:42] <dhuv> The reason I ask is that Fn + F4 which is supposed to be a shortcut to the same thing does not work, it freezes coming back from standby
[04:42] <Agent_bob> for the record   alt+sysRQ+e    didn't kill it.
[04:42] <dhuv> if I however choose the Suspend from the KDE Logout menu, it works fine
[04:43] <dhuv> Agent_bob: whats alt+sysRQ+e
[04:43] <dhuv> sysRQ?
[04:43] <Agent_bob> kernel side hotkey   killall5
[04:43] <genii> Agent_bob: Maybe kill the lockfile
[04:43] <Agent_bob> maybe reboot  and forget it.
[04:44] <genii> dhuv: The script is found in /etc/acpi
[04:44] <genii> dhuv: eg: hibernate.sh
[04:46] <dhuv> genii: how can I find out for sure which one it is?
[04:46] <dhuv> I am going to tail the /var/log/acpi log and see if it comes up there, brb
[04:47] <genii> dhuv: sleep.sh if you're choosing Suspend from the ctrl-alt-del
[04:48] <genii> Although if kpowermanager runs, the acpi script gives kpowermanager the control
[04:48] <genii> klaptopdaemon rather
[04:51] <apparle> which one should I go for nvu or kompzer
[04:51] <preston_baes> how can i manage to customize a resoltuion for my screen i need 1174x667 how can i get that other than doing the sudo dpkg-reconfigure thing
[04:51] <preston_baes> because the sudo thing doesnt work for me
[04:53] <preston_baes> would i have to edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[04:53] <Negatratoron> Hi-hi
[04:53] <Negatratoron> What does the command, "depmod" do?
[04:54] <Agent_bob> totally unrelated but anyone have a clue about this ?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d77c4ad20
[04:54] <Negatratoron> I'm just excited because I randomly tried it and the nvidia kernel module suddenly worked
[04:54] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~] ls /dev/.static/dev/
[04:54] <Agent_bob> tty24 [root@dell.~]
[04:55] <Agent_bob> so then  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d77c4ad20  <<< is a bogus error i think
[04:55] <preston_baes> not for me neg
[04:55] <apparle> I have installed SMPlayer and MPlayer. I want to see te option 'play DVD with Mplayer' when I enter a DVD. What should I do
[04:57] <genii> Negatratoron: depmod rebuilds the list of available kernel modules
[04:58] <Negatratoron> Okay, well, that makes sense...
[04:58] <Agent_bob> nevermind i found it.    it's a bogus error from the cp command. caused by this line in the checkrootfs.sh script               cp -ua /dev/.static/dev /
[04:58] <Agent_bob>             umount /dev/.static/dev
[04:59] <dhuv> just to let you guys know, it was /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[04:59] <dhuv> Figured I would try it and what do ya know, it worked
[04:59] <genii> dhuv: Good :)
[05:00] <apparle> Tell me a video editor which can handle all formats
[05:00] <genii> apparle: kdenlive handles quite an assortment
[05:02] <apparle> genii: Can it convert vido formats
[05:03] <dhuv> apparle: http://www.kdenlive.org/images/kdenlive-0_5_export.png
[05:03] <dhuv> seems like it can
[05:04] <genii> apparle: Not sure. I basically use it to edit out commercials on dvds from tv recordings. kino can export to a few formats but can only accept dv as input type. So I go between them right now
[05:04] <apparle> genii: Can it handle iPod and mobile formats
[05:05] <dhuv> genii: mythtv can edit those commercials out for ya
[05:05] <dhuv> works really well
[05:05] <genii> apparle: I was able to input video from my nokia
[05:05] <genii> dhuv: My standalone dvd recorder however can't :)
[05:06] <dhuv> ahh I see
[05:06] <apparle> genii: I mean to say can it create files playable in mobile/iPod
[05:06] <genii> apparle: kino?
[05:07] <apparle> genii: you tell me
[05:08] <genii> apparle: Since I have no idea what iPod uses I don't know
[05:08] <genii> And I don't own one to test.
[05:09] <genii> apparle: 1 minute
[05:09] <apparle> genii: Can it do that for your nokia
[05:10] <ahmos> Hi,when I try to open restricted drivers,I get this message (
[05:10] <ahmos> You need to install the package
[05:10] <ahmos> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[05:10] <ahmos> for this program to work.
[05:11] <ahmos> can anybody help me resolving this?
[05:11] <genii> apparle: I was going to take a screenshot of the export formats available in Kino but PrintScreen won't work there :(
[05:13] <genii> apparle: I haven't tried exporting to 3gp    ... it has a bunch of mpeg export tweaks
[05:14] <genii> but doesn't tell you the extensions they should have
[05:16] <DasKreech> hey all
[05:16] <genii> apparle: As far as I understand the nokia 3gp files are some type of mpeg4
[05:16] <DasKreech> I'm having an issue with expr
[05:16] <DasKreech> it basically hoses my machine
[05:17] <apparle> genii: tell  me the package names
[05:17] <genii> apparle: kino is just packagename kino  same with kdenlive
[05:17] <genii> DasKreech: My condolences
[05:18] <apparle> genii: so I have to download kino and its dependencies
[05:18] <MadSquirrelKing> i have a hp pavillion dv9205us, but kubuntu will not detect the webcam. What do i need to read/install to get it working?
[05:20] <MadSquirrelKing> i have a hp pavillion dv9205us, but kubuntu will not detect the webcam. What do i need to read/install to get it working? (any one have some suggestions?)
[05:20] <MadSquirrelKing> (it would be greatly appreaciated
[05:20] <DasKreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54017/
[05:22] <genii> apparle: Yes
[05:22] <MadSquirrelKing> DasKreech: what was that link (who was it meant for?)
[05:23] <DasKreech> MadSquirrelKing: Anyone who can tell me what calls expr on boot
[05:23] <MadSquirrelKing> DasKreech: oh. ok :)
[05:24] <MadSquirrelKing> i have a hp pavillion dv9205us, but kubuntu will not detect the webcam. What do i need to read/install to get it working? (any one have some suggestions?) (it would be greatly appreaciated)
[05:25] <jalbert> http://gizmodo.com/350091/cheeseburger-in-a-can-is-both-the-best-and-worst-thing-ive-ever-seen
[05:26] <bobito> hey guys, I'm running kubuntu KDE 4, and I accidently misclicked, and removed the list of open windows from the taskbar on the bottom of the screen
[05:26] <MadSquirrelKing> jalbert: that was a funny page.
[05:26] <bobito> anyone know how to get that back
[05:26] <bobito> i can't find it online
[05:27] <MadSquirrelKing> sry, i dont know how.
[05:27] <MadSquirrelKing> i have a hp pavillion dv9205us, but kubuntu will not detect the webcam. What do i need to read/install to get it working? (any one have some suggestions?) (it would be greatly appreaciated)
[05:28] <bobito> MadSquirrelKing: just do a bunch of searching in the forums for the model type of the webcam.  Hopefully someone either has or is developing a driver or a script
[05:29] <DasKreech> !laptop
[05:29] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:29] <DasKreech> !webcam
[05:29] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:29] <MadSquirrelKing> ok thanks. :)
[05:30] <jalbert> I can't imagine a sane person buying something like that
[05:30] <jalbert> let alone eating it
[05:31] <MadSquirrelKing> jalbert: i know. spam is one thing, but a cheeseburger in a can. wow... thats all i can say
[05:32] <ahmos> Hi ,anybody help me plz..when I try to open restricted drivers I get a messege(you need to install the package Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic for this program to work)
[05:33] <jalbert> use the Adept Package Manager to install that package
[05:33] <MadSquirrelKing> ahmos: type "sudo apt-get install Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic" in konsole to install that package.
[05:34] <ahmos> I got this (E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.)
[05:35] <MadSquirrelKing> ahmos: then run the command in console.
[05:35] <MadSquirrelKing> *konsole
[05:35] <jalbert> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:35] <ahmos> sorry but wich command I should write exactly?!!
[05:35] <ahmos> ok
[05:35] <apparle> genii: Does kino open video files like .mpg .avi or only receive input from camcorder
[05:37] <genii> apparle: It accepts only dv as input. I use some commandline things to convert my vob files to dv to get them in correct format
[05:37] <apparle> genii: then its of no use to  me. any other??
[05:38] <genii> apparle: You find: ffmpeg -i input.vob -target ntsc-dv output.dv             to convert too tedious? ;)
[05:38] <DasKreech> ahmos: the sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:39] <DasKreech> something is stopping your install
[05:39] <ahmos> Thank u (Jalbert & MadSquirrelKing) very much I have solved it..;)
[05:39] <eatThisAndDie> dudes. I kinda screwed up the KDM thing, i wanna go back to the kubuntu default, with the transparent login box and all, any ideas?
[05:41] <dorkface> I'm new to kernels and such, so I have a small question.  If i were wanting to change a value in something like config-2.6.21.1, that means I'd have to recompile it?
[05:41] <apparle> genii: Its not tedious but will take a lot a of time to convert large files
[05:43] <genii> apparle: There is Cinelerra but I have not tried it. http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[05:44] <DasKreech> ahmos: no problem
[05:45] <DasKreech> eatThisAndDie: What did you do?
[05:45] <DasKreech> dorkface: Me too but as far as I understand it yes
[05:46] <apparle> buy
[05:46] <apparle> sorry bye
[05:46] <apparle> bye bye
[05:46] <dorkface> DasKreech: Thanks :)
[05:54] <theRealballchalk> hi guys
[06:06] <bender> *yawns* hellooo
[06:06] <DasKreech> Cheese it!
[06:14] <posingaspopular> DasKreech: he should probably rm r * his .kde folder in his home dir
[06:15] <posingaspopular> i think that's what i did when i wanted to revert my kde4 settings
[06:15] <posingaspopular> rm r * something in the home folder....
[06:16] <DasKreech> posingaspopular: That's what I was going to suggest
[06:16] <DasKreech> KDM is a pretty easy app to blow away as you can't "really" have invested settings in it
[06:21] <mjponce> hi there.
[06:22] <kilzool> I tried Kbuntu, but couldn't get the Nvidia driver working.
[06:23] <kilzool> Im very suprised it didn't auto load it for me.. seeing it is a NVIDIA 6800.. very common.
[06:23] <kilzool> console login font and screen are all messed up.
[06:27] <epimeth> hi guys....
[06:27] <epimeth> I've got a teensy question
[06:27] <surgy> !ask
[06:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:28] <DasKreech> !nvidia
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <epimeth> why does my bcm4138 wireless card work in sabayon but not in kubuntu?
[06:29] <surgy> !wireless | epimeth
[06:29] <ubotu> epimeth: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:29] <epimeth> surgy: I've told that to people, myself.... funny how its automatic to do that... although I *was* stating a fact, not asking to ask :-)
[06:30] <surgy> :)
[06:30] <epimeth> surgy: I've covered the docs plenty of times... I already know how to fix the wireless problem.  I'm just wondering why the sabayon people have a driver that works and we dont?
[06:31] <surgy> epimeth: becuase you havnt made one :)
[06:31] <DasKreech> anyone knows why expr is called at boot?
[06:32] <epimeth> lol... right... like I know how to write drivers.  the (albeit) little I've looked into it has taught me that I'd rather leave that up to other, more experienced, people
[06:34] <surgy> epimeth: lol, thats not the "open source" way of thinking :) although i have contributed little myself
[06:34] <Olde> I try to get into my ntfs partition through Dolphin, but I get an error which says "hall-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid1000. is this correctable?
[06:35] <epimeth> surgy: that is *too* the open source way of thinking.  I'd rather fix bugs, not create new ones!  I'll stick to helping where I can, not where I can break things :-)
[06:35] <surgy> lol ok
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> Olde➜ common error, check google
[06:36] <epimeth> although I think I'll see if I can steal sabayon's driver somehow
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> Olde➜ try unchecking mount as user in dolphin (one option to fixing it)
[06:36] <epimeth> maybe they are using a different kernel?
[06:36] <sub[t]rnl> Olde➜ can't remember the others
[06:36] <Olde> sub[t]rnl how do I do that please
[06:38] <epimeth> mmmmm 600kbps... I swear I will never tire of seeing that
[06:44] <DaveDorm> I have been playing with additional window managers and desktop enviroonments. After installing several, now I get an error: "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2)" and it falls back to the defaulr WM/DE which is KDE3. Any advice?
[06:47] <DaveDorm> hmm
[06:48] <DaveDorm> I am gonna reconfigure kdm, see if that helps, brb
[06:49] <sigma_1234> how do you restart nfs in konsole?
[06:50] <DasKreech> sudo /etc/init.d/nfs restart normally
[06:55] <surgy> does dive into python still come prepackaged in kubuntu?
[06:56] <DasKreech> surgy: No you can apt-get it
[06:58] <surgy> DasKreech: kewl thnx
[07:02] <epimeth> hmmm... just installed from scratch and did an upgrade
[07:02] <epimeth> Setting up libqt3-mt
[07:02] <epimeth> Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'
[07:04] <sigma_1234> how do i manually mount a nfs share using konsole?
[07:05] <sub[t]rnl> !mount
[07:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:05] <sub[t]rnl> well, that didn't help
[07:06] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mount -t nfs ip.of.nfs.box:/dir/you/want /mount/point
[07:07] <sub[t]rnl> or use the box's host name if you have it defined in /etc/hosts
[07:07] <epimeth> I seemed to have been knocked offline for a bit...
[07:07] <epimeth> did anyone see my question / know what to do about it?
 Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'
[07:08] <sub[t]rnl> thats the last thing we got
[07:09] <epimeth> ==>File on system created by you or by a script
[07:09] <epimeth> the regular keep existing/use new/view diff message
[07:10] <epimeth> do I keep the old or replace it?
[07:10] <epimeth> a diff shows that the existing one has 7 libraries in the [usr] section, while the new one only has 2... none overlap.  can/should I merge the two?
[07:13] <adrock358> hey guys
[07:14] <adrock358> any ladies in the house?  in the ubuntu chatroom tonight?
[07:14] <adrock358> we need more women users
[07:15] <sigma_1234> !offtopic
[07:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:15] <adrock358> sigma is this tim_ from before?
[07:15] <DasKreech> a) Kubuntu support room
[07:15] <DasKreech> b) if you think we need more women users yelling in here isn't going to help
[07:16] <adrock358> glad to see there is some chatter,
[07:16] <epimeth> so no ideas people?
[07:16] <sigma_1234> tim_?
[07:16] <adrock358> ok.  here's my question.  can you install all updaates to your system via LiveCD?
[07:16] <epimeth> I don't want to override the file and have something break, but I also don't want to keep the old one and be missing some dependancy
[07:17] <sigma_1234> fyi linuxchix houses most of the female users of linux
[07:17] <DasKreech> adrock358: No You can do it via a Cd though
[07:18] <adrock358> das screech.  really?  just burn them you mean?
[07:18] <adrock358> ?
[07:19] <DasKreech> You can use the alternative Cd as an update source
[07:19] <DasKreech> course it gets outta date pretty quick
[07:19] <adrock358> that has all the gutsy updates?
[07:19] <adrock358>   i need all them
[07:19] <DasKreech> sure download the daily alternative
[07:20] <adrock358> where?  link....
[07:20] <DasKreech> Wait no. .. that doesn't work at all
[07:20] <DasKreech> that would get you Hardy
[07:21] <adrock358> ........
[07:21] <adrock358> well you are of no use
[07:21] <adrock358> sorry
[07:21] <adrock358> i don't really mean that
[07:21] <DasKreech> What are you trying to do
[07:22] <epimeth> so no ideas people?
[07:24] <DasKreech> epimeth: sorry missed your question
[07:24]  * DasKreech prods adrock358
[07:24] <stdin> epimeth: you can generally say replace to those questions, unless *you* remember editing that file
[07:30] <DasKreech> adrock358: are you there?
[07:31] <DasKreech> Well I'm off for the night
[07:42] <hellotherehere> hi, advanced desktop effects does not work on kubuntu?
[07:43] <level1> Hi, I'm using yakuake which is similar to konsole.  The bash function "clear" doesn't actually clear the screen, rather it just scrolls up a little bit so that the history is out of view
[07:45] <Jucato> level1: that's actually the same behavior in Konsole
[07:46] <level1> Jucato: I'm not suprised
[07:46] <level1> enouf didn't have a solution
[07:46] <Ashex> How do I change the default file viewer back to konquerer from Dolphin?
[07:47] <Jucato> !d3lphin | Ashex
[07:47] <ubotu> Ashex: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[07:47] <Ashex> the dual-sidebars is driving me insane
[07:47] <Ashex> ah
[07:47] <Ashex> thanks Jucato
[07:47] <Jucato> Ashex: you can remove the sidebar
[07:47] <Jucato> remove, reposition, merge, etc
[07:47] <Jucato> it's more flexible than Konqueror's sidebar
[07:47] <Ashex> how does one do that?
[07:48] <Ashex> the preferences menu is really basic
[07:48] <Jucato> level1: all terminals behave the same way, even tty's
[07:48] <Jucato> Ashex: View menu I think. View -> Panels
[07:48] <Ashex> oh damn
[07:48] <Ashex> it was that easy?
[07:48] <Ashex> wow. I feel really stupid now
[07:49] <Jucato> don't. :)
[07:49] <level1> Jucato: yakuake and konsole behave differently
[07:50] <Jucato> level1: how so?
[07:50] <Ashex> hmm
[07:50] <level1> Jucato: yakuake doesn't put blank lines after clear
[07:50] <level1> Jucato: try it
[07:50] <Ashex> Jucato, know how to add more details to the details view?
[07:50] <Ashex> I kinda wish I could include filetype in it
[07:50] <level1> sorry, not as many blank lines
[07:50] <Jucato> Ashex: not sure. try right-clicking on the column headers
[07:50] <Ashex> yeah, that doesn't work for me :/
[07:51] <Ashex> eh, I'll just leave it be
[07:51] <Ashex> filter bar works fine
[07:51] <Jucato> level1: yakuake can't behave different from konsole because yakuake uses konsole inside it. how are you determining the amount of blank lines?
[07:52] <level1> yakuake only makes 3 blank lines, I can count them
[07:52] <level1> konsole makes 10
[07:52] <level1> I wish it was configurable, I could just set it to 1000 or 1000000
[07:52] <Jucato> do they both have the same height?
[07:53]  * Jucato is confused as to what level1 actually means...
[07:54] <level1> Jucato: no, they have different heights
[07:54] <level1> Jucato: clear is height dependant?
[07:54] <Jucato> afaik, yes
[07:56] <level1> is there another terminal that isn't as retarded?
[07:56] <level1> I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that
[07:56] <level1> but is there an alternative?
[07:57] <Ashex> there is a gnome equivelant to yakuake
[07:57] <level1> it probably does the same thing
[07:57] <Ashex> tilda
[07:57] <Ashex> what is the issue?
[07:57] <Ashex> I used tilda and it behaves differently then yakuake
[07:58] <Jucato> level1: try any terminal, even try tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and you'll see that they're the same
[07:58] <Jucato> unless I'm misunderstanding your issue, it's really the default behavior of any terminal/terminal emulator
[07:59] <Ashex> and guake, but it was just released in the wild a few weeks ago
[07:59] <Jucato> clear scrolls up a number of lines, depending on the terminal's height, so that the prompt would be at the very top line
[07:59] <level1> Jucato: what I want is a command which deletes the entire history
[08:00] <stdin> if you want a "true" clear on a TTY then "clear_console" is the way
[08:00] <level1> Jucato: so I don't have to figure out: is this the output the last time I ran gcc or the time before
[08:00] <level1> stdin: is there a X11 terminal equivilent to clear_console?
[08:01] <Jucato> close the tab. that would solve your problem
[08:01] <stdin> level1: that'd be application specific
[08:01] <stdin> konsole, for instance, has a clear history option
[08:01] <level1> Jucato: it takes like 20 secounds to close and reopen a tab
[08:01] <level1> stdin: where?
[08:01] <Jucato> 20 seconds? O.o
[08:03] <stdin> level1: for kde3, Edit -> Reset & Clear terminal, or just Edit > Clear History
[08:03] <Jucato> Clear History
[08:03] <harmental> hey guys...is there any kde tool to merge pdfs?
[08:03] <level1> thats exactly what I want
[08:04] <Jucato> harmental: I think there  might be a KDE frontend for pdftk... try searchin in kde-apps.org
[08:04] <level1> oh thank god
[08:04] <level1> wait... it doesn't work for yakuake
[08:04] <Jucato> level1: yeah... it's very Konsole-specific...
[08:04] <harmental> Jucato:
[08:04] <harmental> thx
[08:05] <Jucato> I'm guessing that the embedded konsole doesn't provide that functionality so yakuake can't use it
[08:09] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Gutsy, and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:11] <Ashex> Is there any way to get notifications across desktops like in gnome?
[08:11] <Ashex> would be nice if I could tell I was getting a message in kopete on desktop 2 while in desktop 3
[08:11] <Jucato> Settngs -> Configure Notifications?
[08:11] <Ashex> I meant taskbar notifications
[08:11] <Jucato> doesn't Kopete show that chat bubble when you receive a message?
[08:12] <Jucato> [16:12] <Jucato> Settngs -> Configure Notifications?
[08:12] <Ashex> lemme rephrase
[08:12] <Jucato> KDE's notification system can make your taskbar flash, show a popup, play a sound, run a script
[08:12] <Ashex> yeah, the taskbar will flash in the desktop the application is in
[08:13] <Jucato> [16:12] <Jucato> [16:12] <Jucato> Settngs -> Configure Notifications? (one last try?)
[08:13] <Ashex> so if I'm in a seperate desktop I get no taskbar flash. I can setup a sound clip, or bubble or something else
[08:13] <Ashex> heh
[08:13] <Ashex> I'm looking in there
[08:13] <Jucato> hm... is the column for the taskbar notification "checked" for that event?
[08:13] <Ashex> I'm not just talking about kopete though
[08:13] <Ashex> yes
[08:14] <Ashex> "mark taskbar entry"
[08:14] <Jucato> Flash the taskbar entry?
[08:14] <Jucato> for which event?
[08:14] <Ashex> as far as I know that is it
[08:14] <Jucato> and yes, this applies to any KDE app that has Configure Notifications
[08:15] <Ashex> "An incoming message has been received"
[08:15] <Jucato> hm.. Try "highlighted message" too?
[08:15] <Jucato> I can't really test right now...
[08:16] <Ashex> yeah, they're both set the same
[08:16] <Ashex> heh
[08:16] <Ashex> I just want to know when the woman is talking so she doesn't get annoyed when i don't respond for five minutes
[08:16] <Jucato> playing a sound is not enough? O.o
[08:17] <Ashex> hmm
[08:17] <Ashex> I don't want it going off for everyone
[08:17] <Ashex> maybe I can set it for the contact
[08:18] <Jucato> of course
[08:18] <harmental> Jucato: is this what you meant? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37321
[08:18] <Ashex> I could
[08:18] <Jucato> Ashex: right-click on contact -> Properties
[08:18] <Ashex> bah, it's just personal preference, hearing a sound go off for each message will drive me nuts
[08:18] <Ashex> oh well.
[08:18] <Jucato> then Display a message box
[08:19] <Jucato> harmental: sort of. all I know is that there are some tools like that floating around :)
[08:19] <Ashex> message boxes interfere with full-screen stuff :/
[08:19]  * Ashex is just making this difficult
[08:20] <Jucato> well you can ask for more advice in #kopete if you want
[08:20] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Gutsy, and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:21] <cpk1> how do you stop kdm from starting on boot?
[08:28] <noaXess> how to enable vim's collored script feature?
[08:29] <Jucato> I think you need to install vim-runtime (not sure which vim sub-package actually)
[08:38] <scoopede> how to integrate open office with scim?
[08:40] <SlimG> scoopede: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/OpenOfficeTesting
[08:47] <Ramla> hey. anybody confess having got fglrx+bigdesktop+kde working together?
[08:48] <Ramla> I think i've got the xorg config in a state that it would work (in logon screen the monitors are in bigdesktop mode) but when kde launches, it goes into clone mode
[08:49] <Ramla> in gnome it does the same but you can set the resolution to a dualscreen res. can't figure out what I should do in kde to get the same effect
[08:50] <Jucato> Ramla: just a wild guess. have you checked in System Settings -> Monitor & Display?
[08:51] <Ramla> Jucato: yes, kde has its own dualscreen setup that uses xinerama. in user mode it doesn't let me select a dualscreen res and in administrator mode it overwrites xorg.conf with xinerama config that doesn't work at all
[08:52] <unagi> i have no network manager in my systray................how do i get it
[08:52] <Jucato> oh... no other idea... I haven't been blessed/cursed with dual screens (yet)
[08:53] <unagi> how do you connect to the internet with kubuntu
[08:53] <Ramla> i think the bless/curse status depends on whether you're using ati or nvidia :P My FX5900 broke down and i'm so far happy to see that at least i'm not getting 2D rendering errors with the proprietary ati driver
[08:54] <Jucato> unagi: K Menu -> Internet -> KNetworkManager
[08:54] <unagi> sigh
[08:55] <unagi> i dont have knetworkmanager...........you kmknow i was missing wicd too...................ive been having apps disappear...........
[08:55] <unagi> i just lost window decor
[08:55] <unagi> kde doesnt like me
[08:57] <Jucato> in Konsole, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" should pull in anything that might have been uninstalled that's part of a default Kubuntu installation
[08:59] <ek_> Anyone having issues getting java installed for firefox? Even with the plugin the firefox plugin directory it still won't read it.
[08:59] <ek_> Well, symlinked.
[08:59] <Stummvoll> Hoi, kann mir jemand sagen, wie man doppelte Leerzeichen entfernt? `tr "  " " "` funktioniert nicht
[09:00] <Stummvoll> ups sry fc
[09:02] <unagi_> how do you refresh the wireless network list with knetworkmanager
[09:51] <Santo_3> is this a sort of help channel?
[09:51] <Lynoure> yes
[09:52] <Lynoure> Santo_3: do you need help with something?
[09:53] <Santo_3> thx for you kindness!
[09:54] <Santo_3> its the first time i connect!
[09:54] <Santo_3> fortunatly kubuntu is going well so far!
[09:54] <Santo_3> :)
[09:58] <Lynoure> santo: there is also #kubuntu-offtopic for more free form chat :)
[09:59] <santo> thx fot the hint!joining it now!
[10:05] <noaXess> need enalbe the modul mod_actions in my apache... is there a predeffined package for kubuntu?
[10:23] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[10:24] <Jasmin_> i hav airtel usb model i hav to connect in kubuntu how do i do
[10:27] <Jasmin_> plz help me anyone knows about airtel gprs/edge usb modem
[10:38] <stefan_> hello all :)
[10:38] <stefan_> I have routing problem
[10:39] <stefan_> I do as vpn connect with kvpnc
[10:39] <stefan_> When I try to set the route for remote network in kvpnc the remote site is hanging up
[10:40] <stefan_> so I do the route manually
[10:40] <stefan_> I set the route permanent but when I close the vpn coonct the route is gone away
[10:40] <stefan_> how
[10:41] <stefan_> can I use the route with the vpn-connect automaticly?
[10:42] <stefan_> can someone help?
[10:55] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[11:03] <yeniklasorr> When I open 10-15 tabs on firefox, it is beginning to be unstable and not responding. How can I fix this?
[11:05] <bekirsaid> hi everyone
[11:05] <kenny> hi
[11:05] <bekirsaid> how are you today
[11:05] <bekirsaid> how is weather there
[11:05] <bekirsaid> here is snowing and -13centgrad
[11:07] <jussi01> bekirsaid: this is a channel for Kubuntu support, can we help you?
[11:08] <bekirsaid> sorry
[11:08] <bekirsaid> how can i join a chat room?
[11:08] <jussi01> bekirsaid: if you would like to just chat, you are welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <jussi01> bekirsaid: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <bekirsaid> join kubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <jussi01> with the /
[11:09] <jussi01> and the #
[11:09] <bekirsaid> thx :D
[11:09] <bekirsaid> and a question
[11:09] <jussi01> go ahead!
[11:09] <bekirsaid> how can i change my keyboards preset
[11:09] <bekirsaid> to turkish 101 keys?
[11:09] <jussi01> !keyboard
[11:09] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[11:10] <bekirsaid> kubuntu sees it as eng 102 keys...
[11:11] <serga> hello, I m searching codecs for amarok and kaffeine, what can I install ?
[11:12] <jussi01> !mp3 | serga
[11:12] <ubotu> serga: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <serga>  thx jussi01
[11:16] <jussi01> :)
[11:22] <pawan> hi
[11:22] <vege> hello
[11:23] <darkalien> hi wa? configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables i have intsalled the packt gcc
[11:23] <darkalien> witch packtes is missing?
[11:23] <jussi01> darkalien: have installed build-essential ??
[11:24] <darkalien> ah no
[11:24] <darkalien> thx
[11:24] <jussi01> :)
[11:25] <pawan> hi
[11:25] <jussi01> !hi | pawan
[11:25] <ubotu> pawan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:25] <darkalien> oh whats this?
[11:25] <darkalien> configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[11:26] <darkalien> whats the packtes name?
[11:27] <SlimeyPete> darkalien: you need to install one of the tcl dev packages, for instance tcl8.4-dev, I imagine
[11:27] <darkalien> very thx
[11:28] <jussi01> !away > zMooTh-gone
[11:28] <jussi01> !away > zMooTh
[11:31] <darkalien> #kubuntu.de
[11:31] <pawan> hi
[11:32] <pc-linux-test> boujour
[11:33] <pc-linux-test> y aurait il quelqu'un pour m'aider pour un pilote ?
[11:34] <gladier> !fr | pc-linux-test
[11:34] <ubotu> pc-linux-test: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:34] <pc-linux-test> ok
[11:35] <vege> Is there anyone here with time to help me resolve a punkbuster problem?
[11:40] <pawan> hi
[11:41] <pawan> how to open files in various drives
[11:42] <pawan> how
[11:42] <pawan> how to browse various drives
[11:42] <Ayabara> for me ctrl+c only works in kate if my mouse pointer hovers over the selected text. is it supposed to work that way?
[11:43] <pawan> hello
[11:45] <ek_> pawan: Mount them.
[11:45] <ek_> Ayabara: Sorry. Not familiar with Kate.
[11:46] <Ayabara> ek_: no worries. I'll ask in #kde as well
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> Ayabara: no, should work if the mouse pointer is elsewhere
[11:46] <Ayabara> SlimeyPete: ok. weird..
[11:47] <Ayabara> SlimeyPete: hm. could it be "focus follows mouse" that does this?
[11:47] <Ayabara> maybe it's not just windows like I thought
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> it is just windows
[11:48] <Jucato> Ayabara: as long as Kate is the one that has focus when you press Ctrl+C
[11:48] <SlimeyPete> or at least, it should be.
[11:48] <Jucato> if another window happened to have focus, even if it's not on top, kate won't receive the Ctrl+C shortcut
[11:48] <pawan> how to mount
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> !mount
[11:49] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:49] <Ayabara> well. it doesn't seem to work that way here. even though kate has focus, it doesn't register my ctrl+c.
[11:49] <Lynoure> hmm, not really the answer.
[11:50] <Jucato> Lynoure: it does give the GUI tool to mount... but yeah, doesn't give a link to command line instructions
[11:51] <Lynoure> Jucato: could be handy to have them there too. And it starting with partitioning tools got me to not even finish reading it. Call me weird :)
[11:51] <pawan> then
[11:51] <Jucato> Ayabara: you're sure it has focus? how are you checking?
[11:51] <pawan> all drives are enabled
[11:52] <Ayabara> Jucato: only by lookin at the title bar of the window
[11:52] <Jucato> hm.. right...
[11:52] <pawan> how to mount
[11:53] <Jucato> presuming that the focused window has a different border color than non-focused ones
[11:54] <pawan> hello
[11:54] <Ayabara> Jucato: it does :-)
[11:54] <pawan> they are mounted how to browse the drives
[11:54] <vege> I need help to find some different directories
[11:55] <vege> please
[11:55] <vege> for 2 days I am loking for this answer
[11:55] <vege> *looking
[11:55] <pawan> me too
[11:56] <pawan> konquerer unable to connect to net
[11:57] <vege> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54036/
[11:57] <vege> someone?
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> vege: did you install ET system-wide or in your home directory?
[12:00] <pawan> hi
[12:01] <pawan> konqwureer unable to connect
[12:01] <pawan> and not able to browse various partition contents
[12:01] <Lynoure> vege: I looked at the paste, and still don't understand what the problem is... did you follow those instructions?
[12:03] <Lynoure> vege: if you don't know where it is,  locate pbweb.x86   or  find / -name pbweb.x86   should find it for you
[12:08] <pawan> hi
[12:08] <pawan> and not able to browse various partition contents
[12:08] <Lynoure> pawan: you mounted them all?
[12:08] <pawan> yes
[12:08] <pawan> after that
[12:09] <Lynoure> pawan: try browsing them on the command line... what error you get when trying to access them?
[12:10] <pawan> how to browse
[12:10] <pawan> command
[12:11] <Lynoure> pawan: cd mountpoint    like   cd /Media/mydisk  for example
[12:12] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ cd /Media/mydisk
[12:12] <pawan> bash: cd: /Media/mydisk: No such file or directory
[12:13] <Lynoure> pawan: it was just an example... you have to use the mount point they are mounted on
[12:13] <pawan> like
[12:14] <Lynoure> pawan: ok... how did you mount them?
[12:14] <pawan> they are already mounted
[12:14] <pawan> i think so
[12:14] <pawan> or u tell
[12:14] <Lynoure> pawan: type  mount   just in case to see
[12:14] <Lynoure> pawan: and pastebin the result, thank you.
[12:15] <pawan> !pastebin
[12:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:18] <Ayabara> if I'm on a desktop and select an app on another, I want to be taken to that desktop. now it just moves the window to the current desktop. any setting for this?
[12:18] <jussi01> Could someone remind me of the package for kernel headers, and will this be found on the install cd for a server?
[12:18] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54040/
[12:21] <pawan> now
[12:22] <pawan> how to browse
[12:24] <sveri> pawan: did you try opening the konqueror and enter /media/sdc5 for example?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Has anyone seen like a web site where one can upload their firefox bookmarks and better organize/manage them?
[12:24] <pawan> no
[12:24] <Dr_willis> Im getting way toooo many bookmarks to keep  organized :P
[12:24] <sveri> Dr_willis: try foxmarks its a great addon for firefox
[12:25] <Dr_willis> I got the google sync tool. to sync all my different machines. :) but i still got way toooo many bookmarks heh.
[12:25] <sveri> hm, i wrote myself an app to organize my bookmarks
[12:25] <Dr_willis> Seems the Firefox 3 beta - is even worse for my needs at organizing the things
[12:25] <sveri> but its in german
[12:27] <sveri> pawan: try it ;-)
[12:27] <pawan> ya its working
[12:27] <pawan> thanks
[12:28] <pawan> any other way to browse
[12:28] <sveri> pawan: looks like your really new to linux
[12:28] <pawan> i use ubuntu
[12:28] <sveri> pawan: you could use dolphin too
[12:28] <pawan> not kubuntu
[12:28] <pawan> how
[12:28] <sveri> oh, i see
[12:29] <pawan> how to install dolphin
[12:29] <Dr_willis> dolphin is one file manager for kde., Konqueror is another. :)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> its installed allready
[12:29] <sveri> Dr_willis: he uses gnome
[12:29] <Dr_willis> if you are using the latest kubuntu - you are using dolphin.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> gotta love all the different filemanagers.
[12:30] <pawan> how to start dolphin
[12:30] <sveri> um, if you really use gnome, dolphin is not installed
[12:30] <Dr_willis> type dolphin  :) if its isntalled.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> if its not installed.. then install it..
[12:30] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can set it so that clicking an app on another desktop in the taskbar, takes me to that desktop?
[12:31] <sveri> yea, you could try pressing ALT+F2 and then enter dolphin
[12:31] <Dr_willis> of course WHY you want to use dolphin is  a bigger question.
[12:32] <pawan> good one
[12:32] <pawan> cant select files from audacious
[12:32] <flipstar> you can just drag and drop them
[12:33] <pawan> hae to right click on file and select open with audacious
[12:33] <Dr_willis> from audacious?
[12:33]  * Dr_willis is confused. 
[12:33] <Dr_willis> You could set the default program for the file i guess...
[12:34] <Ayabara> when I right-click on a windows menubar I see the context menu from gnome, not the one from kde. does this mean the gdm is running?
[12:35] <pawan> how
[12:35] <Dr_willis> depends on exactly WHAT file manager you are using and what desktop.
[12:35] <pawan> konquerer
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> Ayabara: that means that the gnome window decorator is running I think
[12:36] <Dr_willis> konwueror -> settings -> configure filetpes.
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> though goodness knows why
[12:36] <Dr_willis> oops its called 'file assoications'  :)
[12:39] <pawan> it is using amarok
[12:39] <pawan> when i single click
[12:40] <Dr_willis> add a new application, and set it as the default.
[12:40] <Dr_willis> !info audacious
[12:40] <ubotu> audacious (source: audacious): Small and fast audio player which supports lots of formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-4 (gutsy), package size 976 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[12:41] <pawan> still amarok
[12:42] <Dr_willis> You did add  audacious  in the 'application preferance order' and moved it up to the top ?
[12:43] <pawan> yes
[12:44] <pawan> still amarok
[12:47] <Dr_willis> I just installed audacious,  edited the konqueror x-mp3 file  assoication, moved audacious to the top of the list.. Now when i double click on a mp3 it plays in AUdacious
[12:48] <Dr_willis> You are running KDE totally? not a mixture of kde/gnome? if you use the gnome filemanger, or desktop. that wont be using the kde file assoications
[12:48] <pawan> ya its working
[12:48] <pawan> thanks
[12:49] <Dr_willis> NOw why you want to use Audacious is beyond me.. Icky. :P
[12:49] <pawan> is audacious not good
[12:50] <sveri> Dr_willis: not everybody can understand everything
[12:50] <Dr_willis> From the 4 min ive just been using it.. I dont seem to see any benifits it has over the other players out there.
[12:50] <Dr_willis> I perfer bmpx myself
[12:50] <Dr_willis> At least these apps under kde dont fight each other trying to become the 'default file assoiation' like windows apps try to do. :)
[12:51] <pawan> how to install bmp
[12:51] <Dr_willis> !info bmpx
[12:51] <ubotu> bmpx (source: bmpx): Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.40.0~rc3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2999 kB, installed size 9264 kB
[12:51] <Dr_willis> same as you install anything else. with the package manager tools.
[12:51] <L337n00b> hi ppl, ne1 may give me some help about installing freedesktop's DRI for using rendering of sis video cards on kubuntu gutsy?
[12:51] <Ayabara> SlimeyPete: At least I have no clue... Can I replace it with the kde window decorator with a command?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install bmpx
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> Ayabara: "kwin --replace", I think
[12:52] <L337n00b> i tried on installing da common-20060330-linux.i386.tar.bz2, and it goes ok
[12:53] <L337n00b> but then when trying to compile ati-20060330-linux.i386.tar.bz2 it tells me it cant compile da kernel modules
[12:53] <Ayabara> Jucato: the kate ctrl+c problem. maybe that could be related to the weirdness with gnome window decorator suddenly running
[12:54] <Jucato> O.o
[12:54] <sveri> Dr_willis: hm, i even installed bmpx and it cant play mp3, which package do i need to make it play them
[12:54] <sveri> ?
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> L337n00b: why are you using tars? Didn't the Kubuntu package work?
[12:54] <L337n00b> i've got standard kernel modules, 2,6,22 i guess.. maybe i'm just wrong with the kernel module directories.. where r them in gutsy?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[12:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <hw> How can I globally disable that file will be opened within konquerer?
[12:55] <sveri> Dr_willis: every other application is able to play mp3 ;-) i installed the restricted packages
[12:55] <L337n00b> SlimeyPete, i tried to look in adept, but didnt find any package of it.. i tried to install mesa-dri, but did nothing.
[12:55] <flipstar> !dolphin | hw
[12:55] <ubotu> hw: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> 1ati
[12:55] <SlimeyPete> !ati
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:56] <Dr_willis>  You could remove the extension/file in the 'application preferance order'  part of the konwueror configuration   I guess  hw
[12:56] <Dr_willis> sveri,  bmpx is playing mp3s here.
[12:56] <L337n00b> SlimeyPete, i have a sis card.. :( a 640
[12:57] <pawan> no equilizer
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> oh right...
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> L337n00b: look for the kernel source packages in adept, check they're installed then look for that tars in /usr/src
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> that way you'll definitely have the right source for your kernel
[12:57] <SlimeyPete> L337n00b: also do the same with kernel headers
[12:58] <SlimeyPete> L337n00b: gotta go now, good luck
[12:59] <L337n00b> ok, thnx nyway SlimeyPete
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Well Bed time here. Night all.
[13:00] <eugenia> Hello everybody
[13:00] <eugenia> is there anybody who speaks Spanish?
[13:00] <Pici> !es | eugenia
[13:01]  * Pici pokes ubotu 
[13:01] <Pici> eugenia: try #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[13:01] <ubotu> eugenia: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:01] <eugenia> gracias, es la primera vez que entro por aquí
[13:02] <pawan> how to play mp3 files in bmp player
[13:03] <hw> flipstar: I still use kubuntu 7.04 and with PDFs are opened within konquerer
[13:05] <flipstar> hw: same here .. i have to right click-->open with kpf
[13:05] <flipstar> *kpdf
[13:05] <flipstar> btw same for .txt
[13:05] <hw> flipstar: So, no solution rather upgrading? ;(
[13:06] <hw> /me cronjob'ed an upgrade
[13:06] <flipstar> you can use dolphin ..
[13:07] <flipstar> the prob stilll exists in hardy
[13:07] <SpookyET> hi
[13:07] <hw> Yeah, but no gpg integration, what I need besides other things
[13:07] <flipstar> in dolphin you mean ?
[13:07] <hw> yes
[13:08] <hw> gpg -> kgpg
[13:08] <SpookyET> Kdemod is so freaking fast
[13:08] <flipstar> there is an kgpg integration in dolphin
[13:09] <hw> flipstar: in 7.04? Lets see...
[13:09] <flipstar> hm in 7.04 you dont even have dolphin i think
[13:10] <flipstar> at least not by default
[13:10] <hw> flipstar: There is. But, lets say, not quite useable...
[13:11] <flipstar> yeah an update is recommend anyway
[13:12] <hw> flipstar: I know. But will not upgrade while in the middle of a project. "Never touch a running system" :p
[13:12] <flipstar> right :)
[13:13] <DasKreech_> But that's no fun :(
[13:15] <flipstar> whatup DasKreech_ ?
[13:19] <DasKreech_> My machine won't boot cause of expr
[13:21] <flipstar> expr ... ?
[13:21] <D0nMcN> Hey guys, wondering if Wine comes with DX8 preinstalled?
[13:24] <D0nMcN> Hey guys, wondering if Wine comes with DX8 preinstalled?
[13:25] <Artimus> D0nMcN: Sort of.  Don't try to install DX8 in it.
[13:25] <Artimus> D0nMcN: It's got the DLL's for everything built in, so yeah, you could say it's installed.  Installing the real DirectX kills things.
[13:26] <D0nMcN> Ahhh
[13:26] <D0nMcN> Alright :X
[13:28] <pawan> hi
[13:28] <pawan> how to install compiz-fusion
[13:29] <pawan> or beryl
[13:29] <jussi01> !compiz | pawan
[13:30] <ubotu> pawan: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:31] <pawan> hi
[13:33] <pawan> and beryl
[13:34] <SlimeyPete> pawan: compiz-fusion is the successor to beryl
[13:34] <SlimeyPete> so don't bother with beryl
[13:34] <jussi01> !beryl
[13:34] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:38] <arochester> I just caught the end of that. There's a bit about Xubuntu and Compiz on http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/ (Scroll down)
[13:55] <heeven> hi. im trying to install kubuntu on an amd 64 athlonx2, so after i click "start or install kubuntu", it will put me on a shell, and i dont know how to continue installation from there :x can someone help?
[13:57] <flipstar> hm you tried the amd64 version of kubuntu ?
[13:57] <heeven> im using it
[13:57] <heeven> live cd 64bit
[13:59] <flipstar> hm the start/install button will try to start the live cd .. you might try the text-based install
[13:59] <flipstar> i also would recomment to check the cd for errors
[14:00] <heeven> ok. ill check for errors and then the text based install
[14:04] <tzanger> hey there... can anyone assist me in finding out why flash9 just doesn't want to work with konq?  it installed, but nspluginviewer just crashes
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:05] <pag> tzanger, because of some techonology used in latest version. you'll have to download r45(? that probably being second latest release) for flash to work with Konq.
[14:06] <tzanger> pag: aha.  so I just go to the flash site and locate an older version of flash9?
[14:07] <pag> tzanger, yup.
[14:07] <tzanger> pag: thank you so much
[14:07] <tzanger> I appreciate it
[14:07] <pag> np :)
[14:08] <tzanger> hmm, I'm having trouble locating older versions on that site
[14:09] <flipstar> !flash | tzanger
[14:09] <ubotu> tzanger: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[14:10] <tzanger> awesome
[14:10] <tzanger> thanks agian
[14:10] <tzanger> er again
[14:15] <djdarkman> hello, I got hal corrupted, how can I easily reinstall it?
[14:16] <flipstar> just select reinstall from adept_manager
[14:19] <djdarkman> flipstar: forgot to mention that since hal doesn`t start means that X doesn`t start as well
[14:21] <flipstar> hm same thing than just use apt instead
[14:21] <flipstar> sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packet>
[14:22] <stefan_> when I have a hardware RAID, how can I see that RAID under kubuntu
[14:22] <stefan_> ?
[14:22] <djdarkman> thanks flipstar didn`t know how it works with apt
[14:25] <flipstar> stefan_: when you set up an harware raid it appears than one drive
[14:26] <dasKreech> What's the main file of upstart?
[14:26] <dasKreech> event.d ?
[14:26] <stefan_> are there tools to monitor that hardware RAID?
[14:26] <stefan_> ex. one disk is dead
[14:26] <stefan_> how can I see that?
[14:29] <ubuntu> como puedo meter facilmente kde4 en kubuntu 7.10?
[14:29] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[14:29] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:30] <flipstar> !es | ubuntu
[14:30] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:30] <flipstar> stefan_: i have no raid..try dmraid
[14:30] <flipstar> !find raid
[14:30] <ubotu> Found: dmraid, raidutils
[14:31] <stefan_> dm raid is for software raid
[14:32] <flipstar> stefan_: just open adept_manager and typ raid in the search bar :)
[14:39] <flipstar> someone using the 64bit version ?
[14:39] <heeven> me :p
[14:39] <heeven> ive tried the safe graphioc mode install
[14:39] <heeven> and it worked
[14:39] <heeven> im now configuring
[14:39] <flipstar> great
[14:40] <flipstar> u already have an 64bit version installed ?
[14:40] <heeven> just tried opensuse 64bits, first time using 64 bit
[14:40] <flipstar> hm did you hade problems with it ?
[14:41] <heeven> well...the laptop didnt have sound
[14:41] <heeven> and wireless
[14:42] <flipstar> okay laptop has more unique hardware i think..
[14:42] <heeven> and i have no sound either with kubuntu
[14:42] <heeven> :p
[14:43] <flipstar> i would bet it has to do with the 64bit version ..
[14:43] <heeven> humm...how?
[14:44] <flipstar> i just readed a articel about 64bit..
[14:44] <heeven> yes
[14:45] <flipstar> they say there could be trouble with codecs
[14:46] <DexterF> hi
[14:47] <DexterF> where do I find the DVD image's md5 sum?
[14:48] <flipstar> right there where you got that image from
[14:50] <sigma_> how do i disable kdm from starting automatically when kubuntu starts?
[14:51] <llutz> sigma_: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[14:51] <flipstar> you could also comment out default display manager in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[14:53] <DexterF> flipstar: got it via BitTorrent. on the download page I didn't find any md5 sums
[14:54] <DexterF> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[14:54] <flipstar> hm you right there is no .md5
[14:55] <flipstar> you could use check cd when you've burned it
[14:55] <flipstar> btw why you downloaded dapper ?
[14:55] <DexterF> well, ok, I got it the other way round now. I made an md5 of what I got and ran the result thru google. there's so many hits I can assume it's ok
[14:56] <DexterF> it's not dapper, it's gutsy. the dapper liks are only those below
[14:56] <DexterF> *links
[14:56] <flipstar> oh right my bad
[14:57] <dasKreech> try cdimage.ubuntu.com for md5sum
[15:08] <romunov> any proggys for kubuntu that allow filling out pdf forms?
[15:09] <jussi01> !pdf
[15:09] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[15:10] <jussi01> romunov: adobe reader is in the medibuntu repo
[15:12] <romunov> haven't seen evince yet... any good?
[15:12] <dasKreech> gtk
[15:13] <jussi01> romunov: its the one default in ubuntu
[15:13] <jussi01> very similar to kpdf
[15:13] <jussi01> to be honest, adobe reader has the features... :(
[15:15] <romunov> too bad, would love to see something like that in kpdf
[15:16] <jussi01> romunov: yeah, me too
[15:16] <dasKreech> I think Okular can do that as well
[15:20] <sigma_1234> !nfs
[15:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[15:27] <ThanosGRE> whoiam
[15:33] <Szeraax> hey, trouble with kde4 and working... It ways that 'genkdmconf-kde4' not found, anyone else seen this?
[15:33] <Szeraax> says*
[15:35] <jussi01> Szeraax: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[15:35] <Szeraax> jussi01: thanks for the ref
[15:35] <jussi01> :)
[15:46] <samuel> Hello everybody
[15:46] <samuel> I have a problem with virtualbox
[15:47] <samuel> My default keyboard layout is U.S. English International
[15:47] <samuel> but in Virtualbox is it Azerty
[15:47] <samuel> how do I change this?
[15:48] <samuel> btw it is Virtualbox 1.5.4
[15:48] <jussi01> samuel: try in #vbox
[15:48] <samuel> thanks
[15:49] <MaTiAz>  
[15:50] <MaTiAz> oops :|
[16:05] <ibou> hi
[16:06] <SlimeyPete> !hi | ibou
[16:06] <ubotu> ibou: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:11] <DoomGuard> hi do i need to open ports in tha iptable for torrents to work better?????????
[16:11] <sub[t]rnl> DoomGuard➜ nothing is blocked by default
[16:11] <DoomGuard> ok thx
[16:29] <krabador> hey people, can you help me with an audio problem?
[17:02] <unda> hi
[17:02] <unda> any1 there?
[17:02] <sub[t]rnl> hi unda
[17:02] <adz21c> yup
[17:02] <unda> hey i need some help
[17:02] <samuel16> What´s the problem?
[17:03] <unda> im getting signal 6 sigabrt with adept
[17:03] <unda> hi sub :P
[17:04] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ heyas.  Is it crashing everytime you run it?
[17:05] <unda> n when i open adept it says another app is using the system database
[17:05] <sub[t]rnl> try doing the apt-fix
[17:05] <sub[t]rnl> !apt-fix > unda
[17:06] <unda> k lemme try
[17:07] <kaminix> Are the KWordQuiz vocabulary files usable in parley too? Will probably use Parley once I install KDE 4, but if I want to use it now I'll have to install kde4 stuff which I do not [yet] want.
[17:07] <adrock358> Guys, what's good video conversion software?
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> ffmpeg
[17:08] <unda> dpkg: error processing classpath-qtpeer (--configure):
[17:08] <unda>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[17:08] <unda>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[17:08] <unda> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:08] <unda>  classpath-qtpeer
[17:08] <unda> i get that error
[17:08] <adrock358> sub[t]rnl: that burns too?
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:08] <krabador> hey people, can you help me with an audio problem?
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ and sudo apt-get -f instal
 which version of ubuntu are you running
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ s/instal/install
[17:09] <sub[t]rnl> adrock358➜ nope, just converts
[17:09] <unda> kubuntu 7.10
[17:09] <unda> well migrated from ubuntu 7.10 2 kubuntu
[17:09] <unda> brb
[17:09] <adrock358> i gotta burn some dvd movies.  any suggestions on programs.  ffmeg sounds good to convert.  are you aware of any all-in-one, convert-and burn software?
[17:10] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, there is nero for linux, DeVeDe
[17:10] <sub[t]rnl> that would do it all in one go
[17:10] <adrock358> cool.  i'll check it out.  thank you.
[17:10] <sub[t]rnl> np
[17:10] <adrock358> no?
[17:10] <adrock358> they don't do all in one?
[17:10] <tashiro_> This Adept bug is a real pain in the ass
[17:11] <adrock358> all in one would be easier.  i don't have much time that's the thing
[17:11] <adrock358> i'd like to just hit a button and let it go
[17:11] <adrock358> convert and then burn
[17:11] <sub[t]rnl> yeah those two are all in one
[17:11] <adrock358> oh, i reread your old post now.  i got it.  thank you vey much
[17:12] <tashiro_> i heard that if u install using an ubuntu iso then konvert to kde desktop it fixes the Adept problem can sum 1 confirm?
[17:13] <tashiro_> any 1?
[17:14] <krabador> when an issues is hard, nobody knows nothing....
[17:14] <krabador> :)
[17:15] <tashiro_> Thanks for the honesty
[17:15] <sub[t]rnl> or silly
[17:15] <unda> k back
[17:15] <unda> so do i need 2 reintall adept?
[17:15] <unda> or something?
 i heard that if u install using an ubuntu iso then konvert to kde desktop it fixes the Adept problem can sum 1 confirm? <--- that would hardly be true. and which bug would that be?
[17:16] <krabador> some audio expert?
[17:16] <Ntweat> any 1 here knows retroshare?
[17:16] <sub[t]rnl> unda➜ nope.  If adept isn't functioning to your liking, you could try synaptic
[17:17] <sub[t]rnl> !info synaptic > unda
[17:17] <unda> k but i found netbeans on adept n i couldnt see it on synaptic >.>
[17:17] <unda> so i was trying 2 get that n java n got soem errors :S dunno y :S
[17:17] <lg188_> hello
[17:17] <unda> synaptics's the 1 that comes with gdm rite?
[17:17] <sub[t]rnl> with gnome, correct
[17:17] <unda> lemme see if i still have it
[17:18] <unda> welll synaptics is workin
[17:19] <unda> nice its here :S
[17:19] <cornerstones> "Another process is using the packaging system database". Attempting to resolve results in a crash of adept. I'm using 7.10
[17:19] <unda> ty anyway
[17:19] <unda> btw how 2 uninstall apedt them
[17:19] <unda> since im not usin it?
[17:19] <unda> with synaptic?
[17:20] <unda> or with terminal?
[17:20] <sub[t]rnl> apt-get remove adept   from konsole
[17:20] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get, :p
[17:20] <tashiro_> Doese that actualy fix the problem?
[17:21] <sub[t]rnl> I use adept without any troubles.. what problem are you talking about tashiro_?
[17:22] <tashiro_> Same problem Unda's talkin bout
[17:22] <unda> u got same problem?
[17:22] <Ntweat> any 1 here knows retroshare?
[17:22] <unda> no>.>
[17:23] <cornerstones>  retroshare is still arround?
[17:23] <unda> btw is it ilegal 2 share cracked software in here?
[17:23] <tashiro_> Had the same problem it dissappeard when i upgraded to gutsy
[17:23] <unda> yeah but im usin gutsy with kde4 already >.>
[17:23] <Jucato> unda: yes
[17:23] <cornerstones> I thought retroshare died shortly after going ligit
[17:23] <unda> lol k :P
[17:23] <tashiro_> But id lke to know how to fix it
[17:24] <unda> yeah me2
[17:24] <unda> probably reinstallin
[17:24] <unda> :S
[17:24] <tashiro_> Not cool
[17:24] <unda> lol
[17:25] <unda> how do i install something sudo apt-get install name?
[17:25] <Jucato> yes
[17:25] <tashiro_> yeah
[17:25] <krabador> some audio expert?
[17:25] <unda> wht mp3 player u usin?
[17:26] <tashiro_> Me?
[17:26] <unda> u all :P
[17:26] <tashiro_> I use VLC
[17:26] <unda> is it good?
[17:27] <tashiro_> Very plays pretty much evrithing
[17:27] <surgy> i use amarok for mp3s and vlc for watching movies
[17:27] <unda> cuz i like something like winamp, maybe xammp or somethin
[17:27] <unda> yeah amarok i used taht
[17:27] <unda> ima get it
[17:27] <surgy> unda: thats my fav
[17:28] <Ntweat> amork rockz
[17:28]  * Ntweat np: Stuck in the heat [1:03/3:54] - Blue Night - 2001 by Michael Learns To Rock | Pop | mp3 | 128 kbps
[17:28] <surgy> plus its not hard to make it sync with your ipod
[17:28] <unda> i lost my ipod >.>
[17:28] <unda> ima get an itouch luckly
[17:29] <tashiro_> ipod is expensive in south africa about R2000 for a nano
[17:30] <unda> its expensive in venezuela 2, but everything is getting expensive here now >.<
[17:31] <tashiro_> Wouldnt it be cool if evrithing was opensource?
[17:31] <unda> hey is konqueror an mp3 player?
[17:31] <unda> lol yeah :P
[17:31] <jpatrick> unda: no
[17:31] <unda> but an open source ipod?
[17:31] <tashiro_> no its a webbrowser
[17:31] <jpatrick> !info konqueror > unda
[17:31] <unda> lol
[17:31] <unda> im confused
[17:31] <unda> i used an mp3 player that started with c or k
[17:31] <tashiro_> konquerer is like windows explorer
[17:32] <Jucato> that's insulting :)
[17:32] <unda> i prefer firefox :S
[17:32] <unda> konqueror ask a lot
[17:32] <tashiro_> ever tried ice ape?
[17:32] <jpatrick> !enter > unda
[17:32] <unda> whts that browser?
[17:33] <tashiro_> Dont realy know much bout it but its kinda kool
[17:33] <tashiro_> though it doesent compare to firefox
[17:34] <Jucato> ice ape is just the "rebranded" version of Mozilla Seamonkey
[17:34] <Jucato> (ice weasel is the rebranded version of Firefox)
[17:35] <unda> http://fc.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/336/f/0/Ice_Ape_by_unicko.png
[17:35] <unda> ??
[17:35] <unda> that 1?
[17:36] <tashiro_> yeah
 yu know any books i can read to improve my knowledge of kubuntu?
[17:37] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceApe
[17:38] <Jucato> tashiro_: stick around, you'll learn from others. read the docs, lots of info in help.ubuntu.com/community too
[17:38] <tashiro_> thanks man
[17:38] <Jucato> !docs
[17:38] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[17:38] <Jucato> !wiki
[17:39] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[17:40] <tashiro_> im out fellas
[17:40] <karim> im here
[17:46] <unda> hey how do i download n install a color sheme?
[17:46] <unda> kde4
[17:47] <Jucato> I don't think there are that many 3rd-party color schemes for KDE 4 yet... maybe check kde-look.org
[17:48] <Jucato> as for installing a color scheme, just download the .colors file, click on the Import button in system settings, etc
[17:48] <unda> yeah foind 1 there
[17:48] <unda> is all gray n a bit dark but dunno how 2 install
[17:48] <unda> *found
[17:49] <Jucato> [01:48] <Jucato> as for installing a color scheme, just download the .colors file, click on the Import button in system settings, etc
[17:49] <unda> k ty
[17:49] <unda> ima try that
[17:49] <unda> cuz when i clicked download
[17:49] <unda> it oppened like a text on firefox
[17:49] <Jucato> it's basically a text file
[17:50] <DreadKnight> kde 4.0.1 updates will be released today, right?
[17:50] <unda> n didnt know it was .color
[17:50] <Jucato> DreadKnight: not yet
[17:51] <unda> well bye im off
[17:51] <unda> ty all
[17:59] <Griz> Hey Gang. Is there a (installed by default) GUI tool for config of the smb.conf files/samba shares? Got a newb that wants GUI control and "I" am not seeing anything.
[17:59] <kaminix> When will the 4.0.1 updates be released? Looking forward to see the list of bugfixes. ^^
[17:59] <flipstar> on 6st february
[18:00] <slow-motion> hi
[18:00] <kaminix> Oh, same day as Sukiyaki Western: Django gets released on DVD
[18:00] <flipstar> Griz: systemsetting->share
[18:02] <Beanoes> weirdness, my cursor jumps around into different places when I am typing in applications, it will past things from the clipboard at random times. ANy ideas?
[18:03] <Griz> flipstar, Thank You, Sir!
[18:03] <flipstar> Beanoes: you mice is probably damaged
[18:03] <fede> hi everyone. i installed the generic package of freedesktop's DRI rendering application, then placed sis_dri.so, for my sis video card in the dri directory. what may i do now to get it working?
[18:03] <Beanoes> damaged? How so?
[18:03] <Beanoes> the physical mouse is fine
[18:04] <Beanoes> we talking driver?
[18:04] <flipstar> dont know..had the same prob once at windows
[18:04] <Beanoes> windows is a bit different yes?
[18:05] <flipstar> problem was the same mice was broken
[18:05] <Beanoes> well as far as I can tell there is no problems with the mouse. I have a USB mouse as well as the installed synaptic touchpad
[18:06] <Beanoes> this is a laptop
[18:06] <articpenguin3800> will switching to jfs speed up my computer
[18:06] <Beanoes> what are you using now? ext2 or 3?
[18:06] <flipstar> depends on disc operations articpenguin3800
[18:07] <Beanoes> do you delete large files?
[18:07] <articpenguin3800> yes
[18:07] <Beanoes> like 4 gig large?
[18:07] <articpenguin3800> virtualbox images
[18:07] <articpenguin3800> and fsck takes 1 hour on my 500 gig harddisk
[18:08] <flipstar> what do you have now ?
[18:08] <articpenguin3800> ext3
[18:08] <flipstar> ext2 ?
[18:08] <flipstar> hm
[18:08] <ibou> i have a bug with sounkonverter: sometimes it can open files and sometimes not (with the same files). I can open folders which contain files, though
[18:09] <Beanoes> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxClustersAndFileSystems.html
[18:09] <Beanoes> a small tutorial about linux file systems
[18:09] <ibou> someone has the same problem?
[18:10] <articpenguin3800> ext2 is not journallized
[18:10] <flipstar> Beanoes: maybe you could test that mice on a different computer just to be sure ..
[18:10] <ubuntu> ok
[18:10] <ubuntu> I've never seen this happen before
[18:10] <flipstar> right articpenguin3800
[18:11] <ubuntu> I did an apt-get install and it removed the kernel from my machine
[18:11] <articpenguin3800> so thats data lost there on a crash
[18:11] <ubuntu> so now I get a grub menu and it can't find a kernel so it can't boot
[18:11] <ubuntu> so how would one do an apt-get install to a filesystem that's not live since I'm running off the bootable live cd?
[18:12] <articpenguin3800> plus i have lost about 8GB thanks to the ext3 overhead
[18:12] <Beanoes> flipstar It works perfectly on all other computers. Its not the mouse
[18:13] <flipstar> which driver do you use ?
[18:13] <articpenguin3800> i switch to jfs will i get my 8GB back
[18:16] <flipstar> heres another benchmark articpenguin3800 http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
[18:17] <flipstar> articpenguin3800: *ubuntu prereserves about 5% of the disk for root .. u might decrease that
[18:17] <articpenguin3800> i did
[18:18] <Beanoes> mouse is using /dev/input/mice   ImPS/2
[18:18] <articpenguin3800> maybe cuz ext3 has a lot of overhead when on a 500gig fs
[18:18] <flipstar> you using the linux driver or the manufactors driver Beanoes ?
[18:18] <Beanoes> touchpad /dev/psaux
[18:18] <Beanoes> auto-dev
[18:19] <Beanoes> Linux driver
[18:20] <flipstar> maybe you should try the drivers from the manufactor :)
[18:20] <Beanoes> its a generic wireless usb mouse
[18:20] <Beanoes> not sure I want to use a Microsoft mouse driver in Linux
[18:21] <kaminix> Any specific reason why KTorrent 2.2.5 isn't in the repos yet or is it just that no one has put it there?
[18:22] <crimsun> seeing how I uploaded that to hardy...
[18:22] <crimsun> if you're asking regarding a stable, supported Kubuntu release, you'll need to request a backport.
[18:22] <ubuntu_> so can anyone tell me how to install a kernel only when you're booted using the live cd?
[18:22] <kaminix> But I should be able to use the binary you uploaded to hardy, right crimsun?
[18:23] <crimsun> kaminix: no.
[18:23] <crimsun> (unless you want silent corruption and/or sigsegvs)
[18:23] <Beanoes> well with boot options, when you booSection "InputDevice"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Identifier     "Configured Mouse"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Driver         "mouse"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "CorePointer"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
[18:23] <Beanoes> EndSection
[18:23] <Beanoes> Section "InputDevice"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Identifier     "Synaptics Touchpad"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Driver         "synaptics"
[18:23] <kaminix> Okay :p Guess I'll just... wait.
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "SendCoreEvents" "true"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[18:23] <flipstar> !pastebin Beanoes
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "Protocol" "auto-dev"
[18:23] <Beanoes>     Option         "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
[18:23] <flipstar> !pastebin | Beanoes
[18:23] <ubotu> Beanoes: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:23] <Beanoes> EndSection
[18:23] <Beanoes>  the t tell it where you have
[18:23] <Beanoes> nice sorry my mouse decided to paste
[18:24] <crimsun> kalorin: same basic procedure as restoring GRUB/LILO to the MBR.  chroot to your real / and install the deb(s).
[18:24] <Beanoes> I understand what paste bin is and how to use it. However my mouse decided to paste that to the screen on its own, that is part of the problem
[18:24] <kalorin> crimsun: just mount it on some random mount point then?
[18:24] <kalorin> that's the real question, how do you get apt to use your respository and install to your real filesystem and not the livecd stuff?
[18:25] <Beanoes> have your mountable kernel somewhere and when the live CD boots tell it where to boot  ir boot =/dev/hda3/kernal file
[18:25] <kaminix> Will KTorrent 2.2.5 even be uploaded for 7.10?
[18:26] <crimsun> kalorin: yes, follow the restoring wiki if you have questions.
[18:26] <crimsun> kaminix: no, but perhaps for gutsy-backports if you request a backport.
[18:26] <kaminix> How do I do that?
[18:26] <flipstar> !backports
[18:26] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[18:28] <kaminix> Interesting, Kubuntu 8.04 will come with either the old 3.x.x or the new 4.x.x desktop? Dual releases? :o Will it be the latest KDE 4 then? (Should be something like 4.0.3 or 4.0.4?)
[18:28] <frojnd> When I try to run lkl I do sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/dock/lkl/us_km -o /usr/share/doc/lkl/loglkl.txt and in return I get: Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is /usr/share/dock/lkl/us_km. The logfile is /usr/share/doc/lkl/loglkl.txt. unable to find keymap-file: No such file or directory a keymap is required!! run lkl with -k <keymap>  What's with this keymap ??
[18:30] <Flats> Hello I am currently running Ubuntu on 1 of the drives in my system.  I have Kubuntu dvd iso on my other drive.  If I extract that, can I run it from the drive and install or do I have to boot with it?
[18:30] <flipstar> right kaminix the kde3 release of hardy will have lts
[18:31] <kaminix> Cool. :) Wonder which one I'll choose. *dreamy*
[18:32] <flipstar> Flats: you have to boot it i think else you could try to mount the image
[18:33] <Flats> yeah I guess I have to figure out how to ount the image, my cdrom isn't a dvd burner
[18:33] <Flats> so I can't boot
[18:33] <Flats> err mount
[18:33] <Santo_3> hello everyone!
[18:34] <Santo_3> someone knows hot to configure a Usb Adapter wireless D-link?
[18:34] <flipstar> Flats: i prefer gisomount
[18:34] <Santo_3> how°
[18:35] <flipstar> !info gisomount | Flats
[18:35] <ubotu> flats: gisomount (source: gisomount): A utility for mounting and managing .iso images. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 268 kB
[18:36] <flipstar> Santo_3: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[18:37] <Santo_3> thx!
[18:37] <Santo_3> I tryed that already
[18:38] <slow-motion> bye
[18:39] <albert> hola buenas
[18:39] <Santo_3> thanks anyway!
[18:39] <Santo_3> ;)
[18:39] <albert> me acbo de instalar kubuntu 7.10 64 bits i me he cargado el disco duro ay algun modo de recuperar los datos
[18:40] <Tm_T> !es | albert
[18:40] <ubotu> albert: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:45] <AMcBain> Is there any way to make Firefox "default"? I tried checking its setting in its preferences, but that doesn't seem to do it.
[18:46] <ScorpKing> how can i check a disk for bad blocks with fsck?
[18:47] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: fsck is fsck and badblocks is badlocks :)
[18:47] <ScorpKing> thanks Lynoure. didn't know that :)
[18:47] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: I mean, the former only checks the filesystem, not the disk as such
[18:48] <ScorpKing> ah. got it
[18:49] <tim_> hi
[18:49] <Nachtvogel> Hi
[18:49] <tim_> my sound doesnt work but all the drivers and everything is installed
[18:49] <tim_> and says its working
[18:49] <tim_> yet i hear nothign
[18:50] <tim_> can some 1 help
[18:50] <tim_> !sound > tim_
[18:51] <AMcBain> If you wait, someone with with the same problem or someone with a solution might answer it.
[18:53] <kalorin> don't install the udbmgr!
[18:53] <kalorin> whatever you do
[18:53] <ScorpKing> Lynoure: if i run badblocks -s /dev/sdb1 will that tell me if bad blocks are found?
[18:53] <kalorin> it'll remove your kernel for you!
[18:54] <ScorpKing> kalorin: how did you find out? ;)
[18:55] <AMcBain> How do I get the sound applet back in the tasktray? It seems to have disappeared on me, and I can't find it in the add applet menu.
[18:56] <ScorpKing> AMcBain: it might be kmix
[18:57] <AMcBain> I'll try it out.
[18:57] <fede> may ne1 tell me the command to configure the x server on kubuntu gutsy?
[18:58] <Jasmin_> kalorin_: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/100 plz help me i hav to config my airtel edge medem in kubuntu how do i do
[18:58] <Santo_3> where can i find a list of modem/router compatible with linux?
[18:58] <ScorpKing> !xres
[18:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <Lynoure> ScorpKing: you could throw in -v  just in case  (read: I don't remember how verbose it is by default)
[18:59] <ScorpKing> !resolution | fede: try this -
[18:59] <ubotu> fede: try this -: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:59] <ScorpKing> Lynoure: ok thanks. will do
[19:00] <ScorpKing> it's weird how a disk is not picked up or don't work in windows but in linux it 100% fine. heh
[19:00] <AMcBain> KMix (sound mixer) doesn't seem to be it. It provides a lot of "bars" for various things, but what I had before was a simple speaker icon, that launched a volume control item.
[19:01] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/100
[19:01] <noaXess> is there a package missing, cause my vim want have code colors.. code highlight feature
[19:01] <surgy> AMcBain: sounds like kmix, thats whatss running on my desktop now, and i left click it it pops up with a volume slider
[19:02] <ScorpKing> AMcBain: if i click on that speaker icon in the system tray it says kmix here
[19:02] <AMcBain> Okay, the for some reason I can only add something called "SoundMixer", I have no KMix, which makes no sense, as I had it when I installed the OS ... I'll apt-get it again.
[19:03] <surgy> AMcBain:  just open a terminal and typ: kmix
[19:03] <AMcBain> Oh.
[19:03] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: trying to connect a modem?
[19:03] <AMcBain> Then how did it disappear ... ugh. I'll just ask it to readd itself.
[19:04] <noaXess> !vim
[19:04] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[19:04] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: YES but i cant plz tel me how do i do i hav airtel edge modem
[19:04] <surgy> AMcBain: should autostart everytime now, and i have no idea why it "dissapeared"
[19:05] <tim_> how to reload sound in terminal;
[19:05] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: just plug it in and then run sudo wvdialconf. after that edit /etc/wvdial and set the number and password. to dial run sudo wvdial
[19:06] <ignignokt> hey, i changed from gnome to kde fairly recently and the operators on my numpad don't work unless numlock is off.  numbers work only with numlock on.  it works fine in gnome, advice?
[19:06] <ignignokt> i mean *, / +, -
[19:06] <flipstar> you can set it in systemsetting ->keyboard ignignokt
[19:06] <Lynoure> How can I make Kompozer save the changes to the stylesheet? It keeps on resetting to what the CSS was originally, despite me saving the page
[19:07] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/100
[19:07] <ignignokt> flipstar: i don't have to restart x when i change stuff in there, do i?
[19:08] <flipstar> no..its just about next time you start the pc
[19:08] <flipstar> or login
[19:08] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: i don't think jou have to run modprobe. what does dmesg | tail say if you plug it in?
[19:09] <ignignokt> that's what i meant
[19:10] <flipstar> great than have fun with kde :)
[19:10] <tim_> yo
[19:10] <tim_> how do i restart sound in terminal
[19:10] <surgy> who can i help today? :)
[19:10] <tim_> me
[19:10] <tim_> pweaz
[19:10] <AMcBain> Okay, I got it back, but now I think I lost its menubar (I accidentally checked the item that hides it)
[19:10] <surgy> sudo restart
[19:10] <surgy> :)
[19:10] <Invisible_Slack> Anyone able to give a lending hand on getting DRI to work in Xorg for a older R128 Chipset?
[19:10] <tim_> surgy cmd not found
[19:10] <surgy> reboot
[19:10] <ScorpKing> tim_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[19:11] <tim_> ty
[19:11] <ignignokt> i can't find anything relevant in keyboard settings... help :(
[19:11] <uten> hey anyone knows how to enable reading a novell partition from within linx?
[19:11] <uten> *linux
[19:11] <tim_> i need to know if i have this driver
[19:11] <tim_> CA0106
[19:11] <tim_> for my audigy card
[19:11] <tim_> and if not how do i install it...
[19:12] <flipstar> ignignokt: its just the first thing in systemsettings->keyboard->numbers at kde start
[19:12] <ScorpKing> tim_: try lsmod | grep snd
[19:12] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: now i m using with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone n i hav to config my airtel usb modem
[19:12] <surgy> tim_:  sudo apt-cache search audigy will search for things with "audigy" in there name it comes up with an alsa driver
[19:13] <dasKreech> uten: :-P
[19:13] <surgy> tim_: just sudo apt-get install that driver and if its the newest it wont install anything
[19:13] <tim_> ScorpKing:  CA0106 is not there
[19:13] <ignignokt> flipstar: numlock being on isn't the issue, it's that my math operator keys only work with numlock off
[19:13] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: i have the E220 Vodafone USB Modem and i just have to use wvdialconf to set it up
[19:14] <flipstar> oh
[19:14] <tim_> surgy:  it doesnt show up as just CA0106 when searching to install
[19:14] <tim_> surgy:  not listed...
[19:14] <ScorpKing> Jasmin_: you can also try and see if anyone else got it working on google
[19:14] <tim_> ScorpKing:  how would i install?
[19:14] <Jasmin_> ScorpKing: i wil see
[19:15] <ScorpKing> tim_: no idea. does it show in kcontrol -> sound and multimedia -> sound system?
[19:15] <tim_> ScorpKing:  yes my card is detected and everything but no sound plays... troubleshooting was a dead end
[19:17] <ScorpKing> tim_: in the sound system section in kcontrol what is the audio device?
[19:17] <User41950987> tim_ you checked that ALSA isn't muted?
[19:17] <surgy> User41950987: :)
[19:17] <tim_> User41950987:  yes ive been trying to fix this for days
[19:17] <tim_> ScorpKing:  its set to auto detect right now
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> tim_: what card? is it a laptop?
[19:18] <ScorpKing> tim_: try alsa and oss. you have to restart sound if you change something
[19:18] <tim_> nosrednaekim:  its a desktop audigy 4 soundblaster i think... or audigy 2
[19:18] <tim_> ScorpKing: one moment
[19:18] <User41950987> Onboard sound device turned off in BIOS helped when i added a sound card. the CA0106, is it a creative soundblaster by anychance?
[19:18] <tim_> User41950987:  yes
[19:19] <tim_> User41950987:  disabling onboard didnthelp....
[19:19] <Mrono> When i try to install the latest x64 Kubuntu during a live sesson it hangs after step 3. right after detecting HDD's
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> Mrono: but 32 bit doesn't?
[19:19] <Mrono> I don't know, only downloaded x64
[19:19] <User41950987> 7.1 ?
[19:20] <tim_> ScorpKing:  trying oss now
[19:20] <tim_> ScorpKing: no luck on either
[19:20] <Mrono> it says detecting HDD's and all that jazz, then sits there like it wants me to recheck my keyboard settings, but the back and next buttons are grayed out
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> Mrono: you don't get to the partitioning screen?
[19:20] <tim_> ScorpKing:  what now?
[19:20] <ignignokt> can anyone else help? my / * + - etc keys on my numpad only work with numlock off, or with "shift" held down; the numbers work with it on just fine
[19:21] <tim_> User41950987:  what now?
[19:21] <ignignokt> i need to be able to use both without shifting
[19:21] <Mrono> nosrednaekim, no
[19:21] <ScorpKing> tim_: pastebin the output of  - aptitude search alsa
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> Mrono: do you have raid or something like that?
[19:21] <Ayabara> I have installed a new package to fix kmilo on my gutsy. do I have to reboot for it to take effect?
[19:21] <tim_> ScorpKing: what?
[19:22] <Ayabara> or restart some service
[19:22] <tim_> ScorpKing: i ran that cmd now what
[19:22] <ScorpKing> tim_: pastebin the output
[19:22] <ScorpKing> !paste
[19:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:22] <ignignokt> Ayabara: i don't know what kmilo is but in general when you install a package you don't need to do anything
[19:23] <ignignokt> restarting a service is possible depending on what it actually is
[19:23] <nosrednaekim> ignignokt: yes, you may need too, since it is a daemon
[19:23] <Ayabara> ignignokt: what nosrednaekim said :-)
[19:23] <tim_> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54097/
[19:23] <Mrono> nosrednaekim: my HDD setup is, ide master - 250gb, IDE slave - dvd burner, SATA - 400gb and 320gb
[19:24] <Mrono> nosrednaekim: no raid setup, just straight drives
[19:24] <User41950987> tim_ I've currently got working a 5.1 soundblaster audigy. I had problems with another soundblaster 7.1 card. it would work, but only with one application at a time. so i could use amarok, but if i started kaffiene for example i'd have no sound until i quit amarok and restart kaffeine. generally had to redetect sound in the eninge config in kaffeine too.
[19:24] <Jeroi> hello, my last word as kubuntu user, going to install vista, and when kde4 are suported with kubuntu I will install hardy or next release again, so It was nice to meet some peeps here and get help to improve my linux expierense. Thanks!
[19:24] <tim_> User41950987: ok??
[19:25] <tim_> User41950987:  it wont work at all..
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> Jeroi: hope you had fun...
[19:25] <ignignokt> Jeroi: install xp
[19:25] <User41950987> tim_: just saying that the 7.1 card had what i think are driver issues
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> Mrono: hummm you could try downloading the alternate install disc
[19:26] <tim_> User41950987:  should i try a diff sound card or somethign?
[19:26] <neversfelde> hello, my KDM lost his theme, how can I restore the default? reinstalling kubuntu-default-settings is not helping?
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: you can stop it and then restart it in systemsettings->advanced->services
[19:26] <tim_> ScorpKing: ???
[19:26] <SilverWolf> I get this error when trying to do a distrubution upgrade to hardy: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?). Anyone know what i should do?, change my mirrors?
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde: what theme is it using now?
[19:26] <ScorpKing> tim_: if it needs special drivers you might have to install alsa-firmware-loaders but just try installing alsaplayer-common for now. restart the sound system when you're done
[19:26] <Mrono> nosrednaekim: is there a non live install option?
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> Mrono: thats what the alternate installer is..
[19:27] <Mrono> oh ok
[19:27] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: great. thanks!
[19:27] <flipstar> SilverWolf: this means no 64bit package is availible
[19:27] <flipstar> err i386 package
[19:27] <User41950987> if you've got one, could be a good test.  otherwise it could be a specific alsa driver. which i never got round to trying personally.
[19:27] <neversfelde> nosrednaekim: I think none. Seems to be a problem with /etc/kde3/kdmrc, because changes in /etc/default/kdm.d/ have no effect
[19:27] <Mrono> nosrednaekim: thanks for the help
[19:27] <kaspsior> tim_ are there any errors ?
[19:27] <usser> neversfelde: theres a niec package that lets u modify kdm themes kdmtheme
[19:27] <tim_> ScorpKing: repost the sound restart thing to me
[19:27] <tim_> kaspsior:  no
[19:27] <flipstar> SilverWolf: which command did you ran ?
[19:28] <ScorpKing> tim_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[19:28] <tim_> ScorpKing: try sound now?
[19:28] <ScorpKing> yes
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde: then delete the kdmrc
[19:29] <tim_> ScorpKing: nnnothign
[19:29] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: is it called something other thank kmilo there?
[19:29] <ScorpKing> :(
[19:29] <ScorpKing> tim_: i'll see if i can find something on google
[19:29] <neversfelde> nosrednaekim: I will try it
[19:29] <tim_> ScorpKing:  should i redisable onboard soundcarf?
[19:29] <kaspsior> tim_ in alsamixer all channels aren't mute ?
[19:29] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: not sure... i'm using kde4.
[19:30] <ScorpKing> tim_: yes
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: just checked... its called kmilo
[19:30] <SilverWolf> flipstar, i did a update-manager -d and selected to upgrade :)
[19:30] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: ok. I can't find it in the list there.
[19:30] <tim_> kaspsior: it says i no longer have asla mixer
[19:30] <tim_> ScorpKing: rebooting to disable it in bios
[19:30] <ScorpKing> ok
[19:32] <SilverWolf> flipstar, how do i do it on the console. apt-get dist-upgrade dosent catch it :)
[19:32] <Invisible_Slack> I'm trying to Enable DRI for Xorg anyone give a lending hand?
[19:32] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: is kde4 good enough to run on a daily basis?
[19:33] <flipstar> no but you could try to manually replace gutsy with hardy in sources.list
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: for me, yes.... for alot of people, no
[19:33] <paule118> wwwwwwwwww
[19:33] <paule118> w
[19:33] <paule118> wwwwwwwwwww
[19:33] <paule118> wwwwwwwwwww
[19:33] <flipstar> but is you know what you are doing by changin to hardy SilverWolf ?
[19:33] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: ok.
[19:34] <SilverWolf> flipstar, yes yes :) Would like to see how the progress is going
[19:34] <flipstar> Ayabara: i would wait until 6st february
[19:34] <marcin> hey, I've got a problem with my web broser, which discusion should i join?
[19:34] <Ayabara> flipstar: what happens then?
[19:34] <SilverWolf> Ayabara, kde 4.1 :)
[19:35] <Ayabara> SilverWolf: ah.
[19:35] <SilverWolf> i think
[19:35] <tim_> ScorpKing: no luck
[19:35] <Ayabara> I just switched over from gnome :-)
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> 6th of feb? no thats 4.0.1
[19:35] <flipstar> right
[19:35] <kaspsior> tim_ try to kill artsd
[19:35] <jasmin__> ScorpKing: i didnt get plz tel what i hav to do for my airtel edge usb modem
[19:35] <nosrednaekim> 4.1in july sometime
[19:35] <jpatrick> paule118: please don't do that
[19:35] <flipstar> 31 march ;)
[19:35] <tim_> User41950987: my mixer doesnt have a master control
[19:35] <ScorpKing> tim_: ok. lets try something else. type aplay -l output and pastin the output
[19:36] <SilverWolf> nosrednaekim, ah sorry, that was what i meant
[19:36] <Ayabara> btw, I installed kubuntu-desktop at work today. it works well, but for some reason kwin doesn't start at boot. I have to do "kwin --replace" to get rid of the gnome window manager
[19:36] <tim_> !paste > tim_
[19:36] <ScorpKing> jasmin__: just plug it in and run dmesg | tail to see if it's being picked up. then sudo wvdialconf
[19:37] <tim_> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54099/
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: thats odd
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: are you using compiz? or have compiz installed?
[19:37] <ScorpKing> tim_: ok. let me see if there's a driver available for that card
[19:38] <emilsedgh> anyone experienced 'This Object Cannot be created' error on trunk in last few days?
[19:38] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I have it installed, but I don't think it launches automatically
[19:38] <Invisible_Slack> I'm trying to Enable DRI for Xorg anyone give a lending hand?
[19:38] <Ayabara> you're thinking maybe I do, and that gnome window manager is the fallback?
[19:38] <neversfelde|mobi> nosrednaekim: deleting kdmrc was not a good idea, KDE isn't starting anymore
[19:38] <jasmin__> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/101
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: humm, never heard that problem before.
[19:39] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde|mobi: run "sudo apt-get remove kdm"
[19:39] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I'll check it out at work tomorrow and get a few more details
[19:39] <nosrednaekim> and then "sudo apt-get install kdm"
[19:39] <flipstar> Ayabara: did you removed that gnome staff ?
[19:39] <ScorpKing> jasmin__: /dev/ttyACM0 is your modem
[19:39] <flipstar> like ubuntu-deskop Ayabara
[19:39] <Ayabara> flipstar: no, I have both installed now
[19:39] <ScorpKing> !bcm | jasmin__:
[19:40] <ubotu> jasmin__:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:40] <flipstar> hm you using both ?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> !broadcom | jasmin__:
[19:40] <ubotu> jasmin__:: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:40] <X314> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/102 can anyone tell me why I get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) on that?
[19:40] <flipstar> then you might have to specify you display manager in profiles Ayabara
[19:40] <tim_> ScorpKing: any luck?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> jasmin__: look at that link to fix your wireless card as well
[19:40] <flipstar> X314: did you use sudo ?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> tim_: still looking
[19:40] <Ayabara> flipstar: where is "profiles"?
[19:41] <X314> flipstar: yeah. both codes are on the pastebin link
[19:41] <ScorpKing> tim_: look at this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[19:41] <jasmin__> ScorpKing: no now i m using internet with my Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[19:42] <ScorpKing> jasmin__: oh ok. did you look on google?
[19:42] <tim_> ScorpKing: kk
[19:42] <ScorpKing> tim_: that's the best i can do. don't really know sound that well
[19:42] <jasmin__> ScorpKing: i wil see
[19:42] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I can't see kmilo in the system services, so I guess it is not running. you know how I can start it?
[19:42] <flipstar> Ayabara: hm but the profile probably gets ready out by both gnome and kde
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: did you just install it?
[19:43] <flipstar> Ayabara: sudo /etc/inid.d/kmilo start
[19:43] <flipstar> if you installed it proberly ..
[19:43] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: no. it was installed, but I replaced it with a custom deb to fix it's broken-ness on gutsy
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: ah.. then should probbly at least log out and then back in
[19:44] <Ayabara> flipstar: hm. apt says it is already installed, but I can't find it in init.d
[19:44] <Invisible_Slack> I'm tryin to enable DRI on 7.10 Kubuntu using a older R128 Radeon Chipset in a laptop, running into a lot of problems and can't seem to find a good configuration can someone help?
[19:44] <flipstar> X314: there isn really an error message
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: is it a thinkpad?
[19:45] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I'm removing all the gnome-stuff now, so I'll reboot afterward to (hopefully) verify that everything still works
[19:45] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, its a Latitude C600 by Dell
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> !purekde | Ayabara
[19:45] <ubotu> Ayabara: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: ok, well, in any case, go to the ThinkWiki, they have good instructions
[19:45] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, went to google and found a couple "config" files that say they work but none of them are working
[19:46] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, let me check that out
[19:46] <neversfelde|mobi> nosrednaekim: no effect. kdmrc is still gone
[19:46] <X314> flipstar: well that was what it told me to putin. but apparently APT front-end crashed.. fixed it now. thanks :)
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde|mobi: one moment
[19:46] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: thanks. I've been following http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde|mobi: I have that file in my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> and its from the package kdm
[19:48] <neversfelde|mobi> mhh, Reinstall should bring it back
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[19:49] <flipstar> neversfelde|mobi: may you should try sudo dpgk-reconfigure kdm
[19:50] <tim_> ScorpKing: it wont let me use alsamixer
[19:50] <neversfelde|mobi> I removed it with --purge
[19:50] <neversfelde|mobi> now kdmrc is back again
[19:51] <neversfelde|mobi> and KDE is starting
[19:51] <ScorpKing> tim_: thats weird. sorry but i have no idea
[19:52] <tim_> function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device
[19:52] <tim_> OH
[19:52] <tim_> i know
[19:52] <tim_> its trying to open up on the disabled sound card
[19:52] <jasmin__> ScorpKing: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> neversfelde|mobi: great.
[19:52] <tim_> ScorpKing: i need to change my default card?
[19:53] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, I think my problem starts as 99% of the "guides" I've been looking and at trying to follow point to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules and there is no "Modules" directory only X11
[19:53] <tekteen> jasmin__: I have the same card
[19:53] <ScorpKing> tim_: make it the one you gonna use
[19:53] <tim_> ScorpKing: how?
[19:53] <ScorpKing> tekteen: can you help him? :D
[19:53] <tekteen> sure
[19:53] <ScorpKing> ty
[19:54] <tim_> ScorpKing: hgow?
[19:54] <tekteen> jasmin__: what computer do you have?
[19:54] <jasmin__> tekteen: i hav dell vostro 1500
[19:54] <ScorpKing> tim_: see if it's possible in kcontrol. if not search on google
[19:54] <tekteen> jasmin__: I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HP_Pavillion_dv6000_(dv6604nr)
[19:55] <tekteen> follow the info about the wireless driver
[19:55] <jasmin__> tekteen: ok
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: weird... I used to have a r128 that worked perfectly fine, but that was several years ago
[19:56] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, I'm looking in the Xorg.0.log file and I searched for "DRI" and its saying DRI is loaded
[19:56] <tekteen> jasmin__: also a command they do not say is --> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:57] <Invisible_Slack> (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[19:57] <Invisible_Slack> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
[19:57] <Invisible_Slack> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[19:57] <Invisible_Slack> 	compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
[19:57] <tekteen> jasmin__: do that first
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: soo what does glxinfo say?
[19:57] <tim_> ScorpKing: whats a MIDI device
[19:57] <jasmin__> tekteen: i already installed that one
[19:57] <tekteen> cool
[19:58] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[19:58] <Ayabara> kmix doesn't start automatically on my system. anyone know how I can fix it?
[19:58] <ScorpKing> tim_: don't worry about that.
[19:58] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, in my xorg.conf its set to Driver "vesa"
[19:58] <tim_> ScorpKing: its not set to my soundcard tho
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: there you go... change it to "ati"
[19:58] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, should I try "dri" ? all the guides have told me to do radeon or r128
[19:59] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, ok going to change to "ati"
[19:59] <flipstar> Ayabara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: open a konqueror window, navigate to "~/.kde/Autostart" and drag kmix from the menu to there.
[19:59] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, brb going to try it
[20:00] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: flipstar: thanks
[20:00] <tekteen> jasmin__: I looked back. I have rev 02 and you have rev. 01
[20:00] <tim_> ScorpKing: midi isnt set to my soundcard
[20:00] <tekteen> jasmin__: You may want to find the winxp driver from your computers website
[20:01] <ScorpKing> tim_: then your card will most likely not be set as default as well. any sound on the other card?
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> nosrednaekim: Actually, once you run kmix and have it show up in the system tray, it usually survives reboots.
[20:01] <tim_> ScorpKing: no idea other card is broke...
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_wk: seems its not doing that....
[20:02] <tim_> ScorpKing: when i do gksudo asoundconf set-default-card audigy 2 it says its inbalid or ininitialized
[20:02] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, changed to ATI and still says the same thing not enabled
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> Invisible_Slack: you have to load certain modules, but I foget which ones.
[20:02] <flipstar> Ayabara: right the session will be saved anyway if you didnt disabled it
[20:02] <jasmin__> tekteen: i m using kubuntu
[20:03] <tekteen> jasmin__: and...
[20:03] <tim_> Names of available sound cards:
[20:03] <tim_> Audigy2
[20:03] <Ayabara> flipstar: I have turned on session management now. maybe I should try leaving it on again
[20:03] <ScorpKing> tim_: ask someone else or look on google. also try in #ubuntu. i'm not too clued up on sound
[20:03] <tim_> ScorpKing:  it says available sound cards: Audigy2
[20:03] <tekteen> jasmin__: the XP driver is for ndiswrapper
[20:03] <Ayabara> is it good at putting stuff on the desktops it were in the last session?
[20:03] <tim_> ScorpKing: so i would do sudo asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2 ?
[20:03] <ScorpKing> tim_: you can try
[20:04] <crimsun> do /not/ use sudo
[20:04] <flipstar> it is useful Ayabara
[20:04] <crimsun> I swear I put that warning in there for a reason...
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> Somebody needs to do a "multiple sound cards on (k)ubuntu" howto.
[20:05] <jasmin__> tekteen: i m using both os n for xp i hav driver but i hav to config in kubuntu
[20:05] <tekteen> jasmin__: ok
[20:05] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, just looked through the xorg.log to see if it would tell what module its missing and its not saying anything except about synaptics touchpad I'm oing to take that one out of the Xorg.conf
[20:05] <tekteen> so you have the xp driver?
[20:06] <jasmin__> tekteen: and what is that rev1 n 2
[20:06] <tekteen> jasmin__: revision
[20:06] <Invisible_Slack> nosrednaekim, its loading alot of hte modules automaticly i'm noticing so I'm going to pull up a guide to see what "modules" they say to load and find out which ones aren't auto loading I guess?
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> you have to find such a guide. ^_^
[20:07] <jasmin__> tekteen: so what do i hav to do n u send that page to me but what command i hav to do first
[20:07] <tekteen> !u
[20:07] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[20:08] <tekteen> I do not understand the question
[20:08] <flipstar> jasmin__: just do it step by step
[20:08] <tekteen> flipstar: ty
[20:09] <jasmin__> tekteen: i have to do that wireless session right ?
[20:09] <tekteen> ?
[20:10] <kaspsior> tim_ try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[20:10] <tekteen> what are you talking about?
[20:10] <kaspsior> any error ?
[20:10] <tekteen> what have you done so fat
[20:10] <tekteen> for*
[20:10] <tekteen> far*
[20:11] <sub[t]rnl> fat
[20:11] <tekteen> jasmin__: what have you done so far?
[20:12] <tim_> kaspsior: 1 sec
[20:12] <tim_> kaspsior: what now?
[20:13] <kaspsior> tim_ error, or nothing ?
[20:13] <jasmin__> tekteen: sorry nw i m feeling sleepy so my mind is not working so i wil do later
[20:13] <tim_> kaspsior: niether directory
[20:14] <jasmin__> tekteen: thanks a lot
[20:14] <tekteen> np
[20:16] <tim_> kaspsior: alsamixer doesnt work
[20:17] <faTe> hey i got a problem:
[20:17] <faTe> i want to play an .pls stream with amarok
[20:18] <faTe> but it can't open it
[20:18] <faTe> i got ffmpeg but it won't work
[20:18] <kaspsior> tim_ i have no clue
[20:18] <flipstar> the stream is definitiv working ?
[20:19] <faTe> flipstar: yes
[20:19] <faTe> it's not only this stream
[20:19] <tim_> kaspsior:  i only get that eror when onboard card is disabled
[20:19] <faTe> all streams i want rto play dont work
[20:19] <faTe> *to
[20:19] <flipstar> even the senders delivered with amarock ?
[20:19] <kaspsior> tom_ alsamix dont work if disabled ?
[20:19] <faTe> flipstar: maybe, ill lock
[20:19] <faTe> *look
[20:20] <ScorpKing> if i dd my disk to a bigger one and delete sda2 and sda3 can i savely resize sda1 without losing any of the files on it and then create sda2 and sda3 again?
[20:20] <tim_> kaspsior: my alsa mixer only works if onboard card is enabled
[20:20] <faTe> flipstar: these work
[20:20] <Invisible_Slack> Ok I have the "ATI" extentions working on my xorg.conf but DRI rendering still won't work anyone got any idea's?
[20:20] <faTe> or maybe u know another good tool?
[20:21] <flipstar> i use vlc for everything
[20:21] <faTe> flipstar: is there a linux version or do i need wine?
[20:21] <flipstar> but these are also pls streams in amarock radio
[20:21] <ScorpKing> tim_: you can also ask in #linux .maybe someone there can help
[20:21] <Invisible_Slack> faTe, there is a linux version of vlc
[20:21] <flipstar> its in the repos
[20:22] <faTe> thanx all
[20:22] <faTe> :)
[20:22] <flipstar> ;)
[20:22] <tim_> whats the best soundcard for kubuntu
[20:22] <tim_> i might jsut buy a new oen
[20:23] <User41950987> tim_: my creative labs SB0410 SBLive! 5.1 worked from installtion on 7.10
[20:25] <tim_> User41950987:  according to the sound guide troubleshoot everything is working
[20:25] <tim_> User41950987:  the only part i cant get to is the mixer
[20:26] <User41950987> is the test sound working in system settings?
[20:27] <kaspsior> alsamixer -c CARD_NUMBER
[20:29] <rez20> does any know how to get a canon mp170 working with kubuntu? i tried installing the gutenprint driver but when i set up the printer, i can't see the mp170 driver in the list
[20:30] <flipstar> rez20: check your manufactor homepage for drivers
[20:33] <james__> Could someone help me with an error I get when I type sudo modprobe snd-atiixp
[20:34] <faTe> james__: what error
[20:35] <flipstar> module not found i guess
[20:35] <faTe> hm
[20:36] <james__> WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/alsa/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[20:36] <james__> FATAL: Error inserting snd_atiixp (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/alsa/pci/snd-atiixp.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[20:36] <james__> dmesg give me a ton of stuff
[20:37] <kaspsior> james get new kernel :P
[20:37] <Lynoure> argh... is there no way to keep Kompozer from overwriting my stylesheet changes?
[20:37] <flipstar> james__: try dmesg | grep dstv pvr
[20:38] <flipstar> Lynoure: you could lock that file ...
[20:38] <flipstar> ups
[20:38] <flipstar> james__: sry dmesg | grep snd-atiixp.ko
[20:39] <Lynoure> flipstar: I do want to modify stylesheet through Kompozer, I just don't want it to occasionally revert all the changes I've made
[20:39] <james__> flipstar: it just brings me back to a command line. Nothing is shown
[20:40] <flipstar> james__: try dmesg | grep snd-atiixp
[20:41] <james__> flipstar: Same thing.
[20:42] <flipstar> btw what you trying to do james__ ?
[20:42] <flipstar> hm i dont know nothing about Kompozer .. Lynoure
[20:43] <articpenguin> i switched everything to JFS and my system feels faster
[20:44] <james__> OH sorry. I am trying to get my sound to work I followed the directions listed at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 but I'll admit that when I entered the code sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source I didn't see my chip set even though it was listed on the web site for alsa
[20:44] <flipstar> articpenguin: you have your space back ?
[20:44] <james__> My chipset is SB450
[20:44] <articpenguin> yes
[20:44] <flipstar> great
[20:44] <articpenguin> overhead of jfs is only 60MB
[20:45] <bascule> james__: lspci | grep Audio
[20:46] <james__> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[20:47] <flipstar> is this correct ?
[20:48] <james__> Thats what I got when I typed lspci | grep Audio
[20:48] <mikeos> hi, any idea why GTK 2.x apps seem to ignore Qt theming settings in KControl panel?  after googling few hours nobody seem to ever met the problem.   (Kubuntu Hardy, KDE 3.5.8)
[20:50] <sahin_h> mikeos: I saw this problem once.
[20:50] <flipstar> mikeos: try ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[20:50] <stephen> Hello.  I have just installed kubuntu and would like to add to my applications like gvim realplayer and others.  Problem I cant find them or at least apt-get can't.  Ifound athe file sources.list but it has lots of commented out lines.  could this be because I did not have a network connection while installing and is it safe to uncomment them now?
[20:51] <sahin_h> I just disabled this feature, then apply, then enable this feature, then apply. And my problem went away. IRC...
[20:51] <mikeos> flipstar:   are you f*ing genius?
[20:51] <bascule> james__: is the system up to date? If so try #alsa, but they may well expect you to recompile alsa stuff to the latest officia; re;ease by them
[20:51] <mikeos> flipstar: works at first shot!
[20:51] <flipstar> hell no had the same prob once
[20:51] <flipstar> someguy just gave me this
[20:51] <mikeos> flipstar:  thanks a lot..how could I find out (which log) that this is missing?
[20:51] <kaspsior> stephen uncomment all deb's
[20:52] <kaspsior> and remove CD
[20:52] <flipstar> james__: i thing rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/alsa-driver would solve your problem
[20:52] <flipstar> i would make a backup before anyway
[20:52] <james__> I believe it is up to date. I burned the .iso at the first of Jan. installed a few days ago, and it ran through the updates once I started the system
[20:52] <xen_> Hey there, the login screen resolution is way off, but my desktop reso is fine, how do i go about changing the login screen resolution?
[20:53] <bascule> that's a yes
[20:53] <X314Z159> hum. anyone got an idea why as soon as something is going "fullscreen" everything joinks upp and looks like someone ripped my screen up or something
[20:54] <mikeos> once being here (much shorter time than expected),  do you think a migration tool will be included in Hardy or any later distrib to switch from KDE 3.5.x to KDE 4?   Or technically it's too difficult and those xxx-kde4.debs are the only way to go?
[20:55] <DreadKnight> mikeos: um... sudo apt-get install kde4 ? :P
[20:55] <mikeos> DreadKnight:  ;) well..what about my settings?  (ok, i shouldn;t be lazy)
[20:55] <stephen> kaspiol;  Thanks I'll give it a go.
[20:55] <flipstar> xen_: check this http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:56] <DreadKnight> mikeos: just bare with the huge changes :P
[20:56] <xen_> ty
[20:56] <stephen> Farrrrrrrr to many keyboardssssssss
[20:56]  * DreadKnight wants kde 4 updates >_M
[20:57] <flipstar> mikeos: there will finaly two different version of hardy .. one with kde3 and lts the other with kde4
[20:58] <zhobbs> for some reason firefox-bin is constantly using 20-40% CPU no matter what (even if no flash is loaded and it's not doing anything)
[20:58] <flipstar> X314Z159: does this happen with every app or just some specific games or something ?
[20:58] <X314Z159> flipstar: every app
[20:58] <mikeos> flipstar: oh yeah, last thing I read is hardy = KDE 3, obligatory.  IMHO KDE4 as far as I tried is a little bit far from being working smoothly (KDE 4 version in Hardy)
[20:58] <flipstar> zhobbs: did you tried to restart firefox ?
[20:59] <zhobbs> flipstar, yeah
[20:59] <flipstar> version 4.0.1 will be released soon
[20:59] <flipstar> it will be more stable
[20:59] <flipstar> the .0 means it aint stable yet ;)
[20:59] <flipstar> zhobbs: on every website ?
[21:00] <flipstar> which version of ff you using ?
[21:00] <flipstar> X314Z159: this problem ever occured ?
[21:00] <mikeos> flipstar:  i uninstalled compiz in KDE 3?  lot's of effects but - bad integration to KControl center,  absence or improper functioning of absolutely indispensable productivity tools like  dragging window by Alt+mouse, resizing windows by Alt+catching somewhere near the window corner
[21:01] <snarkster> Im looking at PCI information about my laptop.
[21:01] <snarkster> I cam across this: "Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
[21:01] <snarkster> Does that means I have 16 megs of video memory?
[21:01] <X314Z159> flipstar: what problem?
[21:01] <flipstar> this one you decribet ..
[21:02] <X314Z159> flipstar: it happens every time i start an app that goes fullscreen
[21:02] <flipstar> mikeos: didnt you used ccsm ?
[21:02] <flipstar> X314Z159: i mean since when..?
[21:02] <mikeos> flipstar: the question was whether 4.0.1 is focused on better compiz integration and inclusion of all very standard features of classic KDM
[21:03] <mikeos> flipstar:  ccsm?
[21:03] <X314Z159> flipstar: oh. uhm.. well. for a couple of months I think.
[21:03] <flipstar> compiz config manager or similar
[21:03] <flipstar> mikeos: for me compiz is working great in kde4 :)
[21:03] <zhobbs> flipstar, seems like it happens after I go to a flash page...even if I close the tab with flash
[21:04] <flipstar> X314Z159: your drivers are up to date ?
[21:04] <mikeos> flipstar: woblly windows, shadows, cubes.. yeah, but no resize by Alt+right mouse button, dragging in the middle of the window. Maybe I explored compiz manager badly..
[21:04] <X314Z159> flipstar: as far as I know
[21:05] <flipstar> on every flash site zhobbs ?
[21:06] <tim_> i need to install linux sound base
[21:06] <tim_> how
[21:06] <Invisible_Slack> Anyone know how to run the Xorg Config Tool, Xorg says the commands are "xorgconfig" or "xorgcfg" but neither commands are installed
[21:06] <flipstar> Invisible_Slack: you have ati right ?
[21:07] <mikeos> flipstar: consider common users willing to get all they got + extra stuff. For me it seems what I had is gone, the extra stuff i got is for aesthetics, not for productivity.
[21:07] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, Yes I need to get a working xorg.conf file that will load all the modules and get this DRI working
[21:08] <flipstar> Invisible_Slack: the command was something like aticonfig --initial
[21:08] <flipstar> try man aticonfig before
[21:08] <FaiDillinGer> yo everybody, i got an usb key that has an ext3 fs on it. how can i format it to fat32 please ??
[21:08] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, I've tried about 10 config files that I've located on the google search I did, X.org wiki goes to a page that doesn't exist when i clicked on the Conf page for ATI in 6.9 X Server
[21:09] <kalorin> wow
[21:09] <flipstar> mikeos: it easily can help beeing productiv since you can very easily switch workspaces
[21:09] <kalorin> don't uninstall esound
[21:09] <kalorin> that'll nuke half your system
[21:09] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, that will install the ATI specific Fglx drivers when I only want to use the DRI drivers that are in X.org 6.9 with the defualt install
[21:10] <kalorin> it'd be nice if adept manager when you hit "go" would bring up a list of the 80k packages its' about to free your harddrive of
[21:10] <kalorin> this sucks
[21:10] <flipstar> hm then the driver install should had set these in xorg.con Invisible_Slack
[21:10] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, the X.org pages on there wiki server are linked to nothing so there website is completely useless, I've tried so many config files and I have it seems all the modules installed but X Org just won't enable DRI
[21:10] <articpenguin> its a amazing how much overhead and slow ext3 is and yet its defualt
[21:10] <AMcBain> What's wrong with ext3?
[21:10] <mikeos> flipstar: you're right, but consider laptop users with glidepoint/touchpad on hi-res LCDs  always reaching window decoratin sections to move/size windows..
[21:10] <flipstar> kalorin it is..just use the filters right
[21:11] <articpenguin> the overhead i lost 8GB because of ext3
[21:11] <flipstar> mikeos: right it is nothing for laptop users since it uses much more power then
[21:11] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar,  in my xorg.0.log it shows that glx, dri, drm,dde modules are all loaded no problems, It loads the "ATI" driver and still won't do the 3d rendering
[21:11] <bascule> articpenguin: tune2fs can sort that out 5% for root can be changes
[21:12] <Lynoure> articpenguin: not because of ext3, I bet, but because of not adjusting the defaults ext3 settings
[21:12] <articpenguin> thats what i did
[21:12] <flipstar> X314Z159: you encoring this problem on desktop or laptop ?
[21:12] <bascule> articpenguin: perhaps it needs set at time of format
[21:12] <X314Z159> flipstar: desktop
[21:12] <articpenguin> oh well
[21:12] <FaiDillinGer> yo, how can i format an usbkey to fat32 please ??
[21:12] <articpenguin> i switched to JFS and my computer feels faster
[21:13] <flipstar> FaiDillinGer: try man mkfs
[21:13] <zhobbs> who do I disable mouse launch notification?
[21:13] <bascule> FaiDillinGer: mkfs.vfat /dev/<whatever>
[21:13] <FaiDillinGer> thx bascule
[21:13] <Mrono> I managed to install kubuntu x64 on my desktop on a third HDD, however I didn't know what drive to put the grub on since it didn't say what drive was what so i just hit enter(i was using the text install) now kubuntu won't boot, how do i fix grub
[21:14] <flipstar> !grub | Mrono
[21:14] <ubotu> Mrono: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:14] <Mrono> thanks
[21:15] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, http://www.pastebin.org/17453 = Xorg.conf
[21:15] <articpenguin> is better to use JFFS2 for a flash drive
[21:16] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, http://www.pastebin.org/17454 = xorg.log
[21:17] <kalorin> heh
[21:17] <kalorin> it removed kde
[21:17] <kalorin> hell, it even removed adept-mangager!
[21:17] <kalorin> fortunately it didn't exit so I can use it to get it back
[21:17] <kalorin> crazy
[21:17] <kalorin> I love kubuntu but this was a little extreme
[21:18] <articpenguin> !jffs2
[21:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jffs2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:19] <flipstar> kalorin how did you managed to do this ?
[21:19] <kalorin> I told adept manager to uninstall esound
[21:19] <flipstar> Invisible_Slack: seems like dri is loaded correctly
[21:19] <kalorin> cause I was having issues with kmix finding a mixer
[21:19] <kalorin> and sound not working
[21:20] <kalorin> well longer story things blew up really wehn i tried to install usb manager
[21:20] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, Yes but when i do glxinfo it says DRI Rendering = No
[21:20] <flipstar> did you restart ?
[21:20] <flipstar> kalorin at least you can fix it :)
[21:20] <Invisible_Slack> Let me go ahead and do it again every time I edit the xorg file and log out it takes me to command prompt and I just "startx" again
[21:21] <kalorin> yeah well all i wanted to do was have amarok see my damn ipod
[21:21] <kalorin> plugged it in and it didn't show up
[21:21] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, I haven't done a full reboot if that is what your asking
[21:21] <kalorin> started trying to figure out what was missing that it didn't see the USB device
[21:21] <kalorin> decided to put a userspace usb manager in a nd poof
[21:21] <kalorin> half the system was 'removed'
[21:21] <kalorin> thanks
[21:21] <flipstar> ouch
[21:21] <kalorin> actually it started out it removed my kernel!
[21:21] <kalorin> literally boot was /boot/grub
[21:22] <kalorin> that's all
[21:22] <kalorin> that was fun
[21:22] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, think a full reboot will solve hte problem?
[21:22] <kalorin> so this has been and educational day
[21:22] <flipstar> damn there should be some sort of protection to beware of this!
[21:22] <kalorin> educational in that sort of "boy I don't want to do that again"
[21:22] <flipstar> Invisible_Slack: probably yes
[21:22] <Invisible_Slack> brb
[21:22] <kalorin> that's what I was saying, it'd be nice if adept-manager (which is very nice) would just show you when you remove a package that ti was going to cascade all this stuff
[21:22] <kalorin> kind of crazy
[21:23] <flipstar> true
[21:23] <flipstar> but it shows what is going to be removed..you  just have to look
[21:23] <kalorin> yeah I guess i missed that
[21:24] <flipstar> james__: you still alive ?
[21:24] <james__> OH yeah.. still here
[21:25] <flipstar> great :) did this solve your problem ?
[21:25] <james__> nope still no sound. Heck I have been tinkering with this I should probley just do a re-install and start over freash LOL
[21:26] <flipstar> but you dont get that symbols errors anymore..?
[21:26] <james__> I did go to alsa and ask there, they told me to use 1.0.16rc2, so was looking at that
[21:26] <flipstar> so just keep following that guide..
[21:26] <ahmos> Hi, I have 2 ntfs partitions sda1 &sda5..but They are not available in dolphin now,so how to mount them again PLZ?
[21:27] <flipstar> k just wanted to know becourse it generally was a critical operation..
[21:27] <james__> No no error but now when I enter udo modprobe snd-atiixp it just takes me back to the command line.
[21:27] <flipstar> this means succes
[21:27] <flipstar> +s
[21:28] <flipstar> !ntfs | ahmos
[21:28] <ubotu> ahmos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:29] <james__> but now there is no speaker icon. Just an empty box saying "Select Mixer" and if I click that there is nothing in it. Should I re-boot and see what happens?
[21:30] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, still the same
[21:31] <kalorin> james__ I've got that right now too
[21:31] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, I just noticed this in the Xorg.log
[21:31] <Invisible_Slack> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[21:31] <kalorin> well I have a speaker icon with an X through it
[21:31] <kalorin> _LOADS_ of fun
[21:31] <james__> Yes it has been just that ;o)
[21:31] <kalorin> was wroking great until my kernel got removed when I tried to put a user space usbmanager on it
[21:32] <kalorin> it's sort of like that whole, ouch my arm hurts, so they kick you in the shin, and now your arm doesn't feel so bad
[21:32] <kalorin> ouch my ipod isn't working, mess around a bit, it removes the kernel, now the ipod doesn't seem nearly as important as it did a few minutes ago :)
[21:33] <BobSapp> kalorin: compile your own kernel?
[21:33] <kalorin> BobSapp: no
[21:33] <kalorin> linux-system-2.6.22-14-generic
[21:33] <kalorin> with headers and restricted modules
[21:33] <kalorin> yay!
[21:33] <kalorin> that's all better now
[21:33] <AMcBain> Just don't reboot. You will be okay until then :)
[21:33] <kalorin> james__ whatever you do, don't remove esound
[21:33] <kalorin> AMcBain: too late
[21:34] <AMcBain> ouch
[21:34] <james__> LOL thanks I'll try to remember that one
[21:34] <kalorin> already did the whole live file system boot and mount the stuff and chroot to that and reinstall
[21:34] <kalorin> or if you do remove esound, make sure you're aware that it'll remove kde for you too!
[21:34] <kalorin> and all packages that are part of it
[21:34] <kalorin> ie. kate, knetwork manager, konqueror, you name it
[21:34] <AMcBain> Isn't that a bug?
[21:34] <kalorin> including adept-manager
[21:35] <kalorin> no idea
[21:35] <kalorin> just a very pervasive package dependency I guess
[21:35] <flipstar> Invisible_Slack: which card you have ?
[21:35] <BobSapp> how do i reconfigure xorg with dpkg or whatever?
[21:35] <flipstar> right
[21:35] <Invisible_Slack> r128 Chipset its a Dell Latitude C600
[21:35] <BobSapp> the xorg.conf file is corrupted
[21:35] <flipstar> BobSapp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server
[21:35] <BobSapp> ah thanks
[21:36] <flipstar> corrupt? oO
[21:36] <BobSapp> hmm
[21:36] <jpatrick> BobSapp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:36] <BobSapp> "package xs-erver is not installed"
[21:36] <BobSapp> *x-server
[21:36] <slow-motion> hi
[21:37] <kalorin> oh yeah esound removes xorg as well
[21:37] <BobSapp> did you mean xserver-xorg-nvidia?
[21:37] <kalorin> VERY pervasive package dependencies
[21:37] <BobSapp> all I did was apt-get update + apt-get upgrade
[21:37] <BobSapp> lol
[21:37] <BobSapp> (on a fresh install)
[21:37] <jpatrick> BobSapp: do what I said
[21:37] <james__> Thanks for the halp I'll be back later.
[21:37] <kalorin> good luck
[21:38] <shawn__> hey probably not the right place to ask but I installed kde 4.0 though the kubuntu packages but want to upgrade to KDE SVN version... if I use kdesvn_build script will it overtake my kde3 install kde 4.0 install? or do something else?
[21:38] <jpatrick> shawn__: best ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:38] <Tm_T> shawn__: none wil be overtaken
[21:38] <BobSapp> wow
[21:39] <BobSapp> i must be dumb
[21:39] <BobSapp> thanks jpatrick
[21:39] <jpatrick> BobSapp: no problem
[21:39] <articpenguin> does kubuntu user extented attirbutes
[21:39] <articpenguin> use
[21:39] <shawn__> how would I run the kde4 svn then Tm_T?
[21:40] <Invisible_Slack> flipstar, I have no idea about how to get the DRI working and its only frustrating me more, I've tried config files of people that swear up and down it works but its just not working
[21:40] <Tm_T> shawn__: well, I recommend to read http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[21:40] <kalorin> Invisible_Slack: ATI or NVIDIA?
[21:40] <Invisible_Slack> ati
[21:40] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, trying to use the default DRI drivers in Xorg
[21:40] <kalorin> man i just downloaded their driver from the website and ran things as they prescribed
[21:40] <kalorin> never had any luck with the xorg stuff
[21:41] <kalorin> that was like a year ago though
[21:41] <kalorin> well 8 months or so anyway
[21:42] <shawn__> Tm_T: that just covers how to install it which I believw kdesvn-build will do for me
[21:42] <shawn__> and I'd like to not make a new user liuke that suggests
[21:43] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, one thing I noticed in the xorg.log is this   (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[21:43] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, but I know others have gotten the DRI Drivers to work so I don't get why its saying its not DRI Capable
[21:43] <kalorin> well dri isn't going to work without the kernel module installed
[21:43] <kalorin> did you check that?
[21:44] <Invisible_Slack> DRI is enabled by default
[21:44] <kalorin> right but is there a kernel module for ATI?
[21:44] <kalorin> in the xorg stuff?
[21:44] <BobSapp> great now x is working again :)
[21:44] <kalorin> and do you have it installed?
[21:44] <kalorin> cause if it's not there/not loading/ DRI isn't going to be working for you
[21:45] <calamari> hi
[21:46] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, and where am i checking this in Kubuntu?
[21:47] <kalorin> well
[21:47] <kalorin> lsmod?
[21:47] <kalorin> one of those module commands
[21:47] <calamari> I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy and am having some display issues.. I have an ATI Radeon 9000 (laptop), with an external monitor attached.  I have the laptop screen going, 1400x1050, that's fine.  And during login, my external CRT is on.. but as soon as I log into KDM, the external monitor goes into power saving mode
[21:48] <calamari> was using the radeon driver in Feisty.. still hoping I can use it
[21:48] <Invisible_Slack> calamari, add your montior into the xorg.conf
[21:49] <calamari> Invisible_Slack: it is
[21:49] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, Ok the DRI module, or ATI one isn't loaded, so where is some info on how to rebuild the kernel the "Kubuntu" way?
[21:49] <kalorin> I'd just apt-get install it
[21:49] <mikeos> calamari:  seems to be switching to extremely hi-res or refresh rate
[21:49] <Invisible_Slack> calamari, did you enable the restricted ATI drivers?
[21:49] <kalorin> I'm not a big fan of compiling kernels anymore
[21:50] <kalorin> cause once you start doign that then you're stuck with it
[21:50] <calamari> Invisible_Slack, flgrx won't work with my video card
[21:50] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, apt-get install what?
[21:50] <rudie> russian chatroom called ubuntu-ru? or what? )
[21:50] <kalorin> the kernel
[21:50] <calamari> fglrx
[21:50] <kalorin> and restricted-modules
[21:50] <Invisible_Slack> calamari, doing DRI?
[21:50] <Tm_T> !ru | rudie
[21:50] <ubotu> rudie: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:50] <kalorin> all that jaz
[21:50] <Tm_T> shawn__: I recommend the guide, I don't use any kdesvn scripts, never has
[21:50] <calamari> Invisible_Slack, don't really care either way
[21:50] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, I have the restricted modules installed, that is how my madwifi and wireless is working
[21:50] <kalorin> i remember compiling all my own stuff back in like 2001, apache, kernels, perl, all that
[21:51] <kalorin> packages are so much easier
[21:51] <calamari> Invisible_Slack, is it easier with it?  I won't be doing any gaming whatsoever
[21:51] <kalorin> back hwen redhat didn't suck completely
[21:51] <Invisible_Slack> calamari, look in your xorg.log and do a search for "EE" that wills how where your errors are
[21:51] <calamari> Invisible_Slack, why would my monitor work on the KDM login screen but not when KDE starts?
[21:52] <Invisible_Slack> calamari, don't know that is why you should look in the xorg.log file ;)
[21:52] <calamari> isn't X already started at that point?
[21:52] <calamari> so maybe it's a kde conf problem?
[21:53] <Invisible_Slack> maybe
[21:53] <g2g591> calamari: check ~/.Xsessionerrors anyway, to be sure
[21:53] <calamari> g2g591,  I don't seem to have that file
[21:54] <g2g591> calamari: ok, then it definately isn't X then
[21:54] <calamari> no EE in my x log
[21:54] <kaminix> "Built with prevu under gutsy, installed and it works fine." <--- What does that mean? (Source: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/187374)
[21:54] <shawn__> Tm_T: well it seems the script will put it in the same place the guide will so should be no problems, thanks
[21:54] <g2g591> calamari: does the happen with another user?
[21:54] <calamari> except for the "key" telling me what EE means of course :)
[21:54] <calamari> g2g591, dunno.. let me create another user and find out
[21:58] <Invisible_Slack> In kubuntu where are kernel modules located?
[22:03] <calamari> g2g591, good call.. it works correctly with another user
[22:05] <g2g591> calamari: then the problem is some config file in your .kde , move it to something else, log in as your main user to recreate it, then copy (not move) folders back one at a time (logging in after each ) to determine which was the problem . (or if you dont mind losing your kde settings, just delete your .kde)
[22:06] <calamari> g2g591, thanks a lot for your help! :)  going to try it
[22:07] <Invisible_Slack> kalorin, I installed the "Linux-restricted-modules" and there is nothing for DRI or anything its all for the propietary ATI Drivers
[22:11] <paule118> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[22:11] <BobSapp> s/^y/wr/
[22:11] <Zombocom> hey
[22:11] <Zombocom> what do I do if I uninstalled aptitude?
[22:11] <paule118> hi
[22:11] <Zombocom> as in
[22:11] <Zombocom> all of aptitude
[22:11] <INightmare> install it again?
[22:11] <paule118> wat
[22:11] <INightmare> apt-get install aptitude
[22:11] <Zombocom> I can't
[22:11] <BobSapp> awesome
[22:11] <paule118> again
[22:12] <Zombocom> INightmare you're using aptitude to install aptitude
[22:12] <paule118> aaaa
[22:12] <paule118> a
[22:12] <paule118> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:12] <paule118> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:12] <Zombocom> apt-get is aptitude
[22:12] <BobSapp> if he downloads the .deb can he install that to install aptitude?
[22:12] <BobSapp> or are debs installed via aptitude?
[22:12] <BobSapp> dpkg -i aptitude.deb should work right?
[22:12] <Zombocom> I think they're installed via aptitude...
[22:13] <Zombocom> I think I'm fucked
[22:13] <BobSapp> lol
[22:13] <Zombocom> my friend got on
[22:13] <BobSapp> see if you have dpkg
[22:13] <Zombocom> naw it's just that this happened before
[22:13] <Zombocom> it's not now
[22:13] <Zombocom> my friend turned off my computer without shutting down
[22:13] <paule118> ((((((((((((((((((((((
[22:13] <BobSapp> Zombocom: compile aptitude from source :)
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[22:13] <dasKreech> !ohmy | somb
[22:13] <ubotu> somb: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:13] <Zombocom> BobSapp in case that happens again where's the source for aptitude
[22:13] <dasKreech> !ohmy | Zombocom
[22:14] <ubotu> Zombocom: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:14] <BobSapp> Zombocom: im not sure
[22:14] <Zombocom> what did I do?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> does anyone run kubuntu on a doctop?
[22:14] <Zombocom> WHAT DID I SAY?
[22:14] <BobSapp> Zombocom: maybe go find a repository???
[22:14] <paule118> iiiiiiiiiiiiiibbbbbbbbbbbnnnnnnnnnn
[22:14] <dasKreech> Zombocom: read up
[22:14] <paule118> ffffffffffffffffffff
[22:14] <mrono> I just installed Kubuntu and KDE4, however I can't access either my main xp drive or my secondary drive
[22:14] <dasKreech> paule118: please stop
[22:14] <Zombocom> my bad
[22:14] <Zombocom> sorry
[22:14] <Zombocom> f word
[22:14] <dasKreech> Zombocom: do you have dpkg installed ?
[22:14] <mrono> is NTFS readable by default?
[22:14] <paule118> ddd
[22:15] <BobSapp> brb restarting x
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> mrono, yeah should be there man
[22:15] <Zombocom> DasKreech this is a theoretical situation...
[22:15] <dasKreech> !ntfs | mrono
[22:15] <ubotu> mrono: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> mrono, just gotta mount it weird
[22:15] <Zombocom> because it happened to me before
[22:15] <dasKreech> Zombocom: ah what's the situation?
[22:15] <Zombocom> I corrupted my copy of aptitude
[22:15] <Zombocom> so it uninstalled
[22:15] <Zombocom> (I've since reinstalled kubuntu)
[22:15] <dasKreech> Zombocom: then use apt-get
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, why not just use apt at command line?
[22:15] <Zombocom> but I would like to know if I could have kept it
[22:15] <Zombocom> dasKreech apt-get is aptitude
[22:16] <Zombocom> guys apt-get is aptitude
[22:16] <dasKreech> Zombocom: what's the point of keeping it ifi t's corrupt
[22:16] <dasKreech> and no it's not
[22:16] <Zombocom> in fact it gave me the error message
[22:16] <dasKreech>  two different programs
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, aptitude is a gui app. apt-get is a CLI command
[22:16] <Zombocom> "the program apt-get is not installed, you can install it by typing sudo apt-get aptitude"
[22:16] <dasKreech> ActionParsnip: technially it'sa a TUI app
[22:16] <INightmare> LOL :D
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> dasKreech, whats the T stand for?
[22:16] <Zombocom> yeah that's seriously the error message I got
[22:17] <dasKreech> Text User
[22:17] <Zombocom> I'm serious guys it was retarded
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> dasKreech, well I learned something today
[22:17] <mrono> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions doesn't work for me
[22:17] <mrono> it just sits there
[22:17] <dasKreech> Zombocom: Easy run to packages.ubuntu.com get the apt-get deb package and then dpkg -i it
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> mrono, try googling for an answer :D
[22:17] <snarkster> anyone know how to get into a Motorola Razor phone using usb cable
[22:17] <dasKreech> mrono: does doing it manually work ?
[22:18] <Zombocom> lol dasKreech if I can depackage I'll do it
[22:18] <Zombocom> if I could have
[22:18] <Zombocom> I would have tried
[22:18] <dasKreech> dpkg -i didn't work ?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Zombocom, what error do you get with dpkg -i?
[22:18] <Zombocom> I don't get any error anymore I completely reinstalled linux
[22:18] <Zombocom> I'm just wondering if there was anything I could have done
[22:19] <Zombocom> xorg wasn't working either and I needed to reinstall it
[22:19] <BobSapp> not really
[22:19] <snarkster> hmm
[22:19] <BobSapp> if no dpkg imho
[22:19] <BobSapp> just keep a /home partition to make the reinstalls go easier
[22:20] <dasKreech> Zombocom: ok to keep it simple what was working
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> BobSapp, makes backups easier too :)
[22:20] <dasKreech> ?
[22:20] <BobSapp> yup yup
[22:21] <Zombocom> not much dasKreech
[22:21] <Zombocom> for some reason a lot of files got corrupted when my friend unplugged my computer
[22:21] <Zombocom> fsck wouldn't work
[22:21] <Zombocom> so I went to reinstall it
[22:22] <dasKreech> Zombocom: On catastrophic failure ... my eyes gleam on how much I'll learn trying to put it back together
[22:22] <Zombocom> and it said aptitude was nonexistent
[22:22] <dasKreech> Zombocom: wait wait wait
[22:22] <Zombocom> Lol dasKreech
[22:22] <dasKreech> you were trying to fsck FROM the machine that needed it?
[22:22] <dasKreech> please say no
[22:23] <stunatra> I'm looking for a program that will convert avi to vob. Anyone know of one?
[22:24] <BobSapp> stunatra: vob like dvds?
[22:24] <stunatra> BobSapp, yes.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> stunatra, have you googled?
[22:25] <dasKreech> Zombocom: ashamed silence? :) well in any case if you aer doing hardware checks always do them from a Live Cd
[22:25] <BobSapp> k3b seems to support dvd/vcd
[22:25] <dasKreech> since you can't trust the hardware very much
[22:25] <stunatra> But does K3b support conversion?
[22:25] <BobSapp> dunno
[22:26] <BobSapp> might do give it a quick go
[22:28] <stunatra> Hmmm I don't see any options for conversion in k3b.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> stunatra, try devede
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> stunatra, there is also a script i saw once that uses ffmpeg but i cant remember the website
[22:29] <stunatra> thanks ActionParsnip I'll try devede.
[22:30] <ahmos> Hi, I had this problem while mounting 2 ntfs partitions..they r sda1&2..I opened fstab and added this line to both of them
[22:30] <ahmos>   nls=utf8 user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[22:31] <brian__> I am having a problem burning an ISO.. K3b is telling me "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device.. what does that mean?
[22:31] <ahmos> and then itried to mount bysudp mount -a and i get this message Line 8& 10 are bad
[22:31] <ahmos> any ideas?!!!!!
[22:31] <Flare183> brian__: means you don't have permission to burn anything to the cdrom's device
[22:31] <BobSapp> normally k3b has a wizard to allow access to the cdwriter device
[22:32] <ahmos> anybody help plz?
[22:33] <brian__> Why don't I have ther permission and how can I get it? Does it deal with the chown thing?
[22:34] <Flare183> i think so
[22:34] <BobSapp> brian__: it should have appeared the first time you ran k3b
[22:35] <brian__> What should have? I burned a CD last night just fine. I didn't change any settings or anything
[22:35] <BobSapp> oh
[22:35] <BobSapp> maybe the file
[22:36] <BobSapp> doesnt have correct permissions?
[22:36] <brian__> I think it could be the file. How do I check?
[22:36] <BobSapp> you should have at least read access on the iso
[22:36] <BobSapp> also k3b should do a checksum on the page just before burning
[22:37] <brian__> I believe I do. By right clicking on the file and checking the permissions? And k3b did a checksum and it came out fine
[22:37] <BobSapp> hmm
[22:37] <BobSapp> sorry then i dont know what else it could be
[22:38] <brian__> well shoot. Could I try a different burner?
[22:38] <BobSapp> did you reboot your pc?
[22:38] <brian__> Yes
[22:38] <BobSapp> switch off and on?
[22:38] <brian__> I think so. Should I?
[22:38] <BobSapp> sometimes burners get locked up
[22:39] <brian__> Hmm how do I check?
[22:39] <BobSapp> ejecting or powercycling the cpu should work
[22:39] <BobSapp> but
[22:39] <BobSapp> have you switched the pc off since the last time it didnt work?
[22:39] <BobSapp> if so then its pointless
[22:39] <brian__> I don't think so.
[22:39] <BobSapp> whats the error message again?
[22:40] <brian__> Cdrecord has no permission to open the device..
[22:40] <BobSapp> wierd one
[22:40] <BobSapp> ah
[22:40] <BobSapp> i know
[22:40] <brian__> ?
[22:41] <BobSapp> cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrw isofilename.iso
[22:41] <BobSapp> try that from the command line
[22:41] <brian__> ok hold on
[22:41] <BobSapp> wherever you saved the iso
[22:41] <BobSapp> you might need to put sudo infront
[22:41] <BobSapp> infact you probably will
[22:42] <BobSapp> sudo cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrw isofilename.iso
[22:42] <BobSapp> it will obviously try to write the cd
[22:42] <brian__> lol "cdrecord command not found
[22:43] <Chase-san> heya, think anyone can tell me how to get wireless to work on 7.10
[22:43] <Chase-san> First time I have installed kubuntu on a notebook
[22:45] <greeg> hi
[22:45] <greeg> does anyone use privoxy to cache web pages ?
[22:47] <greeg> nm  faqs says it doesent
[22:51] <BobSapp> !compiz
[22:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:56] <unagi_> has anyone had problems with kopete crashing or can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[22:59] <hola> im not able to share my ppp0 interface with a virtual machine created by virtualbox
[23:00] <BobSapp> whats the deal with nvidia 3d support on kubuntu?
[23:00] <unagi_> what do you mean BobSapp
[23:01] <BobSapp> is there support for harware 3d rendering in xorg from the repository packages?
[23:01] <BobSapp> or do i still have to go get nvidias binary driver?
[23:01] <unagi_> ive never had to get nvidias binary driver
[23:01] <BobSapp> unagi_: any you can run 3d accelerated applications?
[23:02] <unagi_> i run maya all the time
[23:02] <unagi_> and compiz
[23:02] <unagi_> not at the same time though
[23:02] <BobSapp> hmmm
[23:03] <liz_> hello everyone, I would like to know if Apollon is worth while p2p software to download?
[23:05] <unagi_> sigh i really wish i knew why kopete wont run
[23:07] <unagi_> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-unagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.<------------------what does that mean
[23:08] <justin_> does anyone have any insight into kde 4
[23:08] <flipstar> uid 1000 is the normal user id while 0 is the root id
[23:08] <liz_> do u have a different login to ur pc
[23:09] <unagi_> why is kopete telling me this
[23:09] <flipstar> you probaply tried to run kopete as root
[23:09] <unagi_> im trying to run kopete period
[23:10] <flipstar> justin_: i just got kde4 running
[23:10] <flipstar> unagi_: try it without sudo
[23:10] <unagi_> either way it wont run
[23:10] <flipstar> which message appears then ?
[23:11] <justin_> i have had it for about a week now but i cant seem to find out how to change the size of the panel along the bottom.  in the other channel i asked how and they said you cant until the next release
[23:11] <flipstar> you might ask in #kopete
[23:11] <unagi_> http://pastebin.org/17480
[23:12] <justin_> flipstar: how do you like it??  i like the eye candy but i havent played with it very much yet
[23:12] <flipstar> justin_: i also missing some options for that panel
[23:12] <flipstar> i still use kde3 primary
[23:12] <justin_> they say you cant do anything with it until 4.1
[23:12] <unagi_> why did they release kde 4 if it isnt ready
[23:12] <flipstar> it is an .0 version
[23:12] <BobSapp> beta?
[23:13] <jonnymac> Office keeps asking me to install a valid JRE so I can set up a database. Any ideas?
[23:13] <flipstar> this means something like beta right
[23:13] <unagi_> reinstall java
[23:13] <justin_> i think it is an alpha
[23:13] <unagi_> flipstar: did you look at the paste bin
[23:13] <flipstar> something between maybe
[23:13] <justin_> or frozen for testing and bug reporting
[23:13] <jonnymac> I'm technically non-gifted, any further ideas I can do that?
[23:13] <flipstar> 4.0.1 will be released on 6st february
[23:14] <justin_> sweet that is when the panel will be "adjustable"
[23:14] <flipstar> you also had kde4 unagi_ right? you might try in #kubuntu-kde4 and #kopete
[23:15] <flipstar> yes like kicker now i hope ..
[23:15] <flipstar> kicker is very flexible
[23:20] <bootsmorris> anyone got any good hints/tips/tricks for a laptop user??
[23:24] <flipstar> anyone knows how i can edit a truecrypt partition with tune2fs ?
[23:28] <neosaki> So, after a month of tweaking and testing, I decided to grab Hardy Alpha 3 to see if it works with my Chipset. Quickest install ever.
[23:29] <ahmos> Hi I need some help for mountind 2 ntfs partitions please?
[23:30] <ahmos> I can see them in browsers but I can't access them
[23:31] <flipstar> did you set permission ?
[23:31] <neosaki> Yeah, are they set for Root only or Users?
[23:31] <ahmos> I have edited the fstab trying to mount them
[23:32] <ahmos> but It seems that i made something wrong
[23:32] <flipstar> right if you see them in your browser under /media you already did sucessfully
[23:32] <flipstar> or wherever you mounted them
[23:32] <ahmos> yes I see them
[23:32] <flipstar> now check permission
[23:33] <flipstar> !permissions
[23:33] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[23:33] <liz_> hey did any1 download Apollon? Is it a worthy p2p software?
[23:33] <ahmos> but when i try to access i get this message at the bottom,the mount point /medi/sda1 is already occupied
[23:34] <neosaki> liz: If you're trying to download open source software, the most reliable solution is to go through torrent.
[23:34] <unagi_> anyone have kopete hang when you run it?
[23:34] <liz_> neosaki: is that for file sharing as well? as in music
[23:35] <ek_> Anyone know where I can find help regarding Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy and not being able to access Samba shares created through the KDE Sharing area?
[23:35] <hola> how can i mount a disk on client machine created with virtual box?
[23:35] <neosaki> Liz: Do not talk about pirating in here.
[23:35] <unagi_> neosaki: p2p isnt specifically for pirating
 neosaki: is that for file sharing as well? as in music <---
[23:36] <Dr_willis> ek_,    You may wabnt to check the kubuntu forums. Personally I manually configure shares in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[23:36] <liz_> okk ok didn't mean to offend or promote any wrong doing here
[23:36] <unagi_> not all music is tied to capitalistic liscenses you know
[23:36] <ahmos> and when i try to use the command mount -a I get this message(line 8&10 in /etc/fstab are bad)
[23:36] <flipstar> !info Apollon
[23:36] <ubotu> apollon (source: apollon): KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2.1-2 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1664 kB
[23:37] <neosaki> unagi: You and I both know what she meant, so quit trying to make me be in the wrong for not condoning it.
[23:37] <ahmos> so how i can correct these ines plz?
[23:37] <Dr_willis> ahmos,  whats on line 8 and 10 then? sounds like a typo on those lines to me.
[23:37] <unagi_> ok dont get all upset with me..........all i saw was liz asking if anyone uses appolon.........so forgive me for not wanting to assume.....
[23:37] <Dr_willis> never heard of appolon :)
[23:38] <flipstar> client for gift
[23:38] <flipstar> which is ap2p deamon
[23:38] <Dr_willis> never used gift either. :P heh heh..
[23:38] <flipstar> !info gift
[23:38] <ubotu> gift (source: gift): metapackage for the giFT filesharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.8.1-2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[23:38] <unagi_> im 2 seconds away from removing kubuntu =*(
[23:38] <ahmos> # /dev/sda1
[23:38] <ahmos> LABEL=MAXTOR  /media/sda1 ntfs           defaults,nls=utf8 ser,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[23:38] <Dr_willis> unagi_,  this is a free coutry do what you want.
[23:38] <unagi_> i wanna like kubuntu
[23:38] <unagi_> i really do
[23:39] <ahmos> and the second
[23:39] <ahmos> # /dev/sda5
[23:39] <ahmos> LABEL=MAXTOR  /media/sda5 ntfs         defaults,umnls=utf8 ser,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[23:39] <Dr_willis> ahmos,  where did you get the label= info from? you could try changing it to /dev/sda1 and see if that works.
[23:39] <flipstar> the label thing is wrong..
[23:39] <Dr_willis>  im not sure what the 'nls=utf8 ser 'option does either
[23:39] <unagi_> omg why does everything crash so much in kde
[23:39] <flipstar> there are both the same
[23:39] <Dr_willis> but that looks like a typo
[23:39] <Dr_willis> I rarely have kde crash on me.
[23:39] <neosaki> unagi: Bad hardware?
[23:40] <unagi_> kopete crashes, kde crashes, the window decorator crashes
[23:40] <unagi_> er not kde
[23:40] <unagi_> pidgin crashes
[23:40] <flipstar> kde or kde4 ?
[23:40] <Dr_willis> You Using compiz?
[23:40] <neosaki> I'm using the experimental versions and still having 0 problems.
[23:40] <unagi_> yes
[23:40] <ahmos> so i go to delete defaults,umnls=utf8 ser,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 in both lines
[23:40] <ahmos> ?
[23:40] <flipstar> no
[23:41] <winterelf> hi
[23:41] <unagi_> im sure theres other things that have crashed on me
[23:41] <ahmos> so what i can do exactly?
[23:41] <flipstar> just replace that LABEL with /dev/sda1 for the first line and /dev/sda5 for the second
[23:41] <flipstar> and MAXTOR thing
[23:42] <flipstar> and btw i would recomment ntfs-3g instead of ntfs
[23:42] <winterelf> someone, i have a problam... i just installed kubuntu and when i open terming and write sudo apt-get install bitchx" it says E:could not find pachage
[23:43] <winterelf> did anyone familiar
[23:43] <winterelf> ?
[23:43] <ahmos> ok but what i can do to MAXTOR
[23:43] <unagi_> !info bitchx
[23:43] <ubotu> bitchx (source: ircii-pana): Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB
[23:43] <unagi_> what a name
[23:43] <winterelf> what?
[23:43] <unagi_> i didnt think it was real
[23:43] <unagi_> lol
[23:43] <neosaki> o.O
[23:43] <neosaki> New much?
[23:44] <unagi_> depends on your definition of new
[23:44] <winterelf> someone?
[23:44] <neosaki> bitchX has been around for a while.
[23:44] <flipstar> winterelf: is you using 64bit ?
[23:44] <unagi_> ok?
[23:44] <winterelf> no
[23:44] <winterelf> fliostar:nope
[23:44] <flipstar> hm why dont you use adept_manager ?
[23:45] <unagi_> doesnt really pertain to the dependant i mentioned
[23:45] <Dr_willis>  ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[23:45] <winterelf> i just don't like graphics
[23:45] <unagi_> yea ew graphics...........
[23:45] <winterelf> and still, my system need to operate in any condition, i
[23:45] <flipstar> did you changed your sources.list ?
[23:45] <unagi_> text based gaming for the win
[23:46] <flipstar> ubotu said its an universe thing
[23:46] <BluesKaj> winterelf, you have to enable some repositories : Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage  Repositories. Click the Kubuntu software tab,check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu
[23:46] <winterelf> ok
[23:46] <winterelf> thanks man
[23:46] <neosaki> or if you want to do it text
[23:46] <flipstar> BluesKaj: he dont like graphical things ;)
[23:46] <unagi_> i wonder if i installed a fresh copy of kubuntu if it would crash less
[23:47] <neosaki> unagi: You probably just need to look at your error logs
[23:47] <neosaki> and then fix whatever is causing the crash.
[23:47] <neosaki> >.> Not too hard.
[23:47] <BluesKaj> then he needs to enable some of the repos in his sources.list
[23:47] <unagi_> kopete doesnt give an error
[23:48] <neosaki> kde's crash monitor process will make an error log if it crashes.
[23:49] <unagi_> where is iit
[23:49] <flipstar> he just gave me this http://pastebin.org/17480
[23:50] <unagi_> ?
[23:50] <flipstar> btw did you tried in #kopete ?
[23:50] <neosaki> Have you added anything recently to your computer?
[23:52] <unagi_> i have tried in kopete..........its not just kopete
[23:52] <robobob> hey im having issues with ktorrent, i moved all the files i was seeding, how do i get ktorrent to pick up this?
[23:52] <unagi_> and neosaki i havent added much of anything since kubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <flipstar> robobob: just open the torrent and save it to the new location
[23:54] <maxim000> Install Kmail with add/remove but Katapult don't see it...
[23:55] <unagi_> where is kdes error log
[23:55] <flipstar> try restart katapult
[23:55] <maxim000> i've restart all system
[23:55] <flipstar> unagi_: kmenu->system->ksystemlog
[23:56] <flipstar> and kmail works ?
[23:56] <dasKreech> flipstar: Katapult?
[23:56] <maxim000> now i run it from /usr/bin
[23:57] <flipstar> !info katapult | dasKreech
[23:57] <unagi_> how ironic...........no entry for kopete
[23:57] <ubotu> daskreech: katapult (source: katapult): item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1-2 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 3152 kB
[23:57] <dasKreech> I know I just caught something about torrents what does katapult have to do with that?
[23:57] <dasKreech> Or am I crosing covos?
[23:58] <unagi_> crossing konvos
[23:58] <flipstar> maxim000: you could just select it from kmenu or alt+f2
[23:59] <maxim000> no
[23:59] <maxim000> there no kmail
[23:59] <maxim000> i added it
[23:59] <tcm> unagi_: run it in a terminal and see what you get for output
[23:59] <dasKreech> maxim000: You installed kmail and it doesn't turn up in katapult?
[23:59] <maxim000> yes
[23:59] <dasKreech> It's in the start menu ?
[23:59] <maxim000> no