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jjessei never remember these simple things, if there is a lock is bzr break-lock or force break-lock?01:50
mwhjjesse: that doesn't seem like an actual question01:57
jjessemwh: if i get a locking problem, how do i break it?01:59
jjessebzr force break-lock?01:59
mwhbzr break-lock01:59
jjessedo i have to be the one who has it locked?01:59
mwhuh, i don't think so01:59
mwhyou need to be able to write to the branch02:00
mwh(but i'd hope that was obvious)02:00
mwhit may work better over sftp rather than bzr+ssh02:00
jjessemwh: ok will try that02:00
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dcodeis there any plan to ever release the source of launchpad?  or is it to remain IP of Canonical?02:38
dcodesorry if that's a dupe...I didn't seem to be connected02:38
Hobbseeeventually, is the plan02:43
dcodeokay....I wasn't looking for a date or anything....just the general idea of the plan02:43
dcodethat's cool though....it's the cleanest project tool I've used to date by far...I love it02:44
musashiare there any admins here that can look into some inappropriate posts on answers?03:24
musashisee https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2343003:25
musashihttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2336603:25
musashihttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2343903:27
musashiand others by aznmhc see rather pointless03:28
musashis/see/seem03:29
Hobbseekiko-zzz: please see https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~mhc779103:54
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skyfaller_ppchey folks... the person who is "team owner"05:09
skyfaller_ppcon my "team05:10
skyfaller_ppchas gone missing05:10
skyfaller_ppcdo you folks know who I should talk to to get admin powers in his place?05:10
skyfaller_ppcit's https://launchpad.net/~fcowebteam  if you're curious05:10
Fujitsuskyfaller_ppc: Ask a question on the launchpad project, as no admins appear to be around.05:10
skyfaller_ppcFujitsu: could you give me a link?05:11
Fujitsuskyfaller_ppc: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion05:12
skyfaller_ppcFujitsu: thanks! :)05:13
LaibschI am getted repeated rejects with "MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive. Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification."07:20
LaibschI verified the md5sums and everything is OK07:20
LaibschWhat is the likely problem?07:20
Laibschs/getted/getting/07:20
stdinLaibsch: have you uploaded anything to the repository (I'm guessing PPA?) before?07:26
HobbseeLaibsch: is an .orig.tar.gz referenced in the source.changes?07:27
Laibschstdin: yes07:27
Laibschworked fine07:27
Laibschhttps://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive07:28
LaibschI deleted the failed packages now07:28
stdinLaibsch: are you trying to upload another version or the same one but for another version of ubuntu?07:28
LaibschHobbsee: I don't think so, let me check07:28
Laibschstdin: this is about qemu07:28
Laibschstdin: I had been trying for different version07:29
Laibschs07:29
LaibschLet me prepare the thing and put it up on a webserver so you guys can take a look07:29
HobbseeLaibsch: which version of qemu are you uploading?07:29
Laibsch0.9.107:31
Laibschbut a patched version07:31
Laibschhttp://oz.leggewie.org/wip/07:31
Laibschthe qemu stuff in there07:31
stdinwhat's the version in debian/changelog ?07:32
Laibschstdin: http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/qemu_0.9.1-0oh1ubuntu1_source.changes07:33
Laibsch0.9.1-0oh1ubuntu107:33
LaibschWhat I did to prepare this is "debchange && debuild -S && dput -f ../qemu*.changes"07:33
stdinahh, you need "debuild -S -sa" to make sure the source is uploaded too07:34
stdinalso, why -0oh1ubuntu1 ?07:34
Hobbseestdin: it's native...07:34
stdinas opposed to  "-0ubuntu1~ppa1"07:34
stdinHobbsee: ah, duh :P07:35
HobbseeLaibsch: do you have a crappyconnection?07:35
Laibschno07:36
Laibschnot at all07:36
Laibschstdin: I am fairly new to packaging debs07:37
Laibschipks only so far ;-)07:37
* Laibsch will try -sa07:37
stdinLaibsch: did you create an orig.tar.gz ?07:37
Laibschno07:37
Laibschthere was none07:38
Hobbseeif it's native, there won't *be* an orig.tar.gz07:38
Laibschwhat is native?07:38
stdinHobbsee: it's not supposed to be native afaik07:38
Hobbseestdin: by version number, though...07:38
Laibschguys, what is native?07:42
Laibschstdin: -sa is not documented in "man debuild"07:42
stdinLaibsch: "man dpkg-buildpackage"07:43
stdindebuild calls dpkg-buildpackage (amongst other things)07:44
stdinLaibsch: you need to move debian out of the qemu directory, then "mv qemu qemu-0.9.1" then make an orig.tar.gz "tar czf qemu_0.9.1.orig.tar.gz qemu-0.9.1" then move the debian dir back in and rebuild the package. a native package is one that is build for debian only, it has no .orig.tar.gz and no diff.gz07:46
LaibschOK07:47
LaibschThanks for the explanation07:47
stdinyou may also want to change the version, bacause -0oh1ubuntu1 won't be replaced by an official -0ubuntu107:47
LaibschI think I was kind of going for the native version even for non-native packages07:47
stdinit's a good idea to add "~ppa1" to the end too07:47
LaibschUploading the complete source makes sure it is available ;-)07:47
stdinLaibsch: if it's native, then every time you change something, you need to re-upload the whole source again07:48
stdinthat's why you'll only see some small packages that are native07:48
Laibschwhat would be a good version?07:49
stdinpersonally, I'd go for "0.9.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1"07:49
Laibsch0.9.1-0ubuntu1-oh~ppa107:50
Laibsch?07:50
LaibschOK, thank you for the suggestion07:50
stdinwhat's with you and the "oh"'s? :p07:50
LaibschI want the oh in there as an indication for openedhand07:50
LaibschThe guys preparing all the qemu patches07:50
stdinLaibsch: then have it "0.9.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~openhand1" or "0.9.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~oh1" ;)07:51
LaibschBasically, I just package " svn co http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk qemu-packaging"07:52
stdina good way to do that is to have a svn copy, then "cp svn-dir working-dir; find working-dir -type d -name ".svn" -exex rm -r {} +" then "mv working-dir package-version"07:54
stdinthen you can tar it up into an orig.tar.gz and create your debian stuff after07:54
Fujitsustdin: What's wrong with `svn export'?07:55
stdinFujitsu: nothing, if it works. I'd had some problems with it a while ago and just got into the habit of doing it manually07:55
LaibschBTW, another question if I may, how do I easily create packages for all ubuntu versions from the same source?07:55
Laibschdapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy, hardy07:56
LaibschJust debchange and replace the version?07:56
FujitsuYou'll need to change the version string and release in the changelog.07:56
FujitsuOne would normally dch -i, set the release to gutsy, and append ~gutsy1 to the version.07:57
LaibschOK, thanks07:57
LaibschIt seems debuild made a native package again08:24
LaibschWhat do I need to name the orig tar for version  0.9.1-0oh1~ubuntu1 ?08:24
stdinqemu-0.9.1.orig.tar.gz08:26
LaibschAh, thanks08:27
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carlosmorning08:37
LaibschI guess I am back to square one08:59
LaibschThe tar file is not being uploaded, it seems08:59
Laibschhttps://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/08:59
LaibschWhy is the orig.tar.gz not referenced in *.changes?09:00
LaibschDo I need the -sa switch?09:00
stdinyes09:00
LaibschOK, thanks09:01
stdinyou may have to bump the version in order for it to upload, or remove the old package (which will take time to actually be removed)09:02
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coolbhavi hi10:02
coolbhavi I cant access launchpad...10:02
coolbhaviIt comes connected to launchpad and then no activity10:02
coolbhaviI can access other sites10:02
coolbhaviits happening from past 3 hours10:03
coolbhaviLaunchpad page opening is mighty slow..10:04
intellectronicacoolbhavi: really? any URL, or anything specifically?10:05
kikocoolbhavi, sounds like problems with your internet connectivity10:05
kikocoolbhavi, have you tried to "mtr launchpad.net" and seeing what the packet loss looks like?10:05
coolbhaviNo 10:05
coolbhaviNot a problem with my internet connectivity10:06
oojahSeems to be working fine here.10:11
coolbhavi--- launchpad.net ping statistics ---10:14
coolbhavi68 packets transmitted, 34 received, 50% packet loss, time 67258ms10:14
coolbhavirtt min/avg/max/mdev = 422.024/435.886/459.624/11.294 ms10:14
kiko50% packet loss is pretty high coolbhavi10:17
kikoyou can use mtr to figure out where it is happening10:17
coolbhaviyes10:17
coolbhaviOK10:17
coolbhavivanadium.canonical.com 51.7% packet loss10:22
coolbhaviAny suggestions?10:31
simiraBeklager at dette har tatt lang tid! Det har stoppet opp litt med administrasjonen i teamet. Håper du fortsatt vil bidra med oversettelser!10:38
simiraoops10:38
simirasorry, mipaste10:38
mgunesis marking blueprints as obsoleted no longer possible, or can it be done only by the drafter?11:09
ubotuNew bug: #187285 in soyuz "queue reject fails with TypeError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18728511:15
intellectronicamgunes: no, it should be possible to mark blueprints as obsolete, as long as you have the permissions to set the blueprints' status11:16
intellectronicamgunes: more specifically, what are you looking at?11:17
mgunesintellectronica, just figured that out, thank you.11:17
mptGoooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!12:00
FujitsuMorning mpt.12:01
kikoyo mpt 12:02
Hobbseeevening mpt 12:04
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ubotuNew bug: #187297 in rosetta "po-files exported from rosetta contain insufficient information about translator credits" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18729712:35
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Hobbseenow, why can't i search bzr branches?13:54
FujitsuHobbsee: What fields would you search on?13:56
FujitsuOr, where are you trying to search?13:56
Hobbseehm, by name of the branch, or by project i think13:57
Hobbseei thought we used to have a search for it13:57
Hobbseehttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/13:57
Hobbseeor at least a "filter by: <box>"13:57
FujitsuHm, you're right. It used to be a textbox followed by a status selector.13:58
FujitsuI guess 1.2.1 fixed that.13:58
Hobbseefsvo "fixed".  how was it broken?13:59
Hobbseein fact, being able to filter by the first 5 options in that dropdown look good...14:00
Hobbseeie, automagically filter if "hardy" is in the title, project name, lifecycle status (yes, i know there are easier ways to do it), branhc name, or register name.14:01
Hobbseeproject or name would be the most useful14:01
kikoHobbsee, Fujitsu: guess thumper did away with it in one of the previous month's changes. file a bug on him, I'm sure he'll get it14:08
Hobbseekiko: ...yay.  will do14:11
* Hobbsee wonders how one accidently does away with features.14:12
Fujitsukiko: You don't happen to know what criteria Launchpad uses to decide if a branch is to be marked as dormant, do you?14:14
kikoHobbsee, one doesn't use them, doesn't check if other users do, and removes them. it's pretty easy.14:15
ubotuNew bug: #187312 in launchpad "Standalone global announcements page doesn't seem useful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18731214:16
kikoFujitsu, I don't -- it used to be just abandoned branches, and there's no hint in the page help.14:16
FujitsuI did try to check the page help, and was rather surprised to see there was actually some there, albeit not useful for this.14:16
FujitsuI presume it's something to do with how recently the branch has been updated, or it would be redundant with the status selector.14:17
kikoFujitsu, agreed. time to ask a question on launchpad-bazaar and get thumper to update the page help <wink>14:22
FujitsuThe latter being achieved by filing a bug?14:23
FujitsuUm, is /people/+teamlist not respecting the inactive/merged flag? I see a few that seem to have been merged with others, so 404.14:25
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kikoFujitsu, bug too14:59
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ingredianthttp://PRIVAT-GEKNIPST.dnsdojo.net/?id=5420a7e015:21
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ScottKI'm bug contact for a package and now on a team that's bug contact for the same package.  I get two copies of the bugmail.  Bug or Feature?16:19
HobbseeScottK: bug16:20
Hobbseeoh, hmm16:20
* Hobbsee can't see how that would be intentional.16:20
* Hobbsee can't see how removing search dialog boxes are intentional though, either.16:21
Hobbseempt: are there efforts going on to make the launchpad tables act the same way?  ie, click on a column, and they sort by that column?16:21
Hobbseehaving some that do, and some that don't is confusing16:21
Hobbseesee https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?batch=500 for those that do16:22
mptHobbsee, we know that needs doing, but nobody is working on it at the moment afaik16:29
Hobbseempt: right16:30
mptbug 98950, bug 6173516:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 98950 in rosetta "Column sorting doesn't work on distribution series language pages" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9895016:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 61735 in malone "Can't sort by column on +reportedbugs, +subscribedbugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6173516:32
mptIt needs reporting for each *type of* page where it's missing, because it needs to be implemented separately for each type afaict16:33
* ScottK braves the new bug reporting scream at you box to report the bug then.16:38
ScottKHobbsee: After it turned out removing *-security from *-changes mail was intentional, I no longer make assumptions about the design.16:41
elmois there a bug about being able to search for bugs against a specific project?  I can't seem to see that option in advanced search16:43
mrevellLaunchpad users meeting in #launchpad-meeting in 15 minutes.16:44
ubotuNew bug: #187346 in launchpad "Multiple bug mails received when both package bug contact and on a team that's contact" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18734616:50
mptelmo, what page are you on where you expect to be able to see that option?16:57
mpthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu ?16:57
elmompt: actually, no, I was going the wrong way round16:59
elmompt: I went to my page, to try and search from there16:59
elmoeventually figured I have to go to the project page's bugs and advanced search from there16:59
mrevellusers meeting in #launchpad-meeting now! :)17:00
mptelmo, maybe that should have worked17:02
mpte.g. maybe the search field on your Bugs page should have contained "involving:elmo" by default, which you could have deleted before entering "package:name-of-package-here" then your search terms17:03
elmompt: that'd be nice17:03
elmompt: the UI for advanced search is sucky in a couple of other ways too17:04
elmompt: the tag madness, which I have to assume is known, for a start17:04
mptyeah17:04
elmompt:  but also the tick boxes for status, some of which are implicit, AFAICT17:04
intellectronicaelmo: the tag madness?17:04
mptYes, if you uncheck all of them it searches for everything except Invalid + Won't Fix + Fix Released17:04
mptToo many pages and controls, not enough power17:04
elmointellectronica: https://bugs.launchpad.net/%7Eelmo/+bugs?advanced=117:05
mptThat looks like milestone madness to me17:05
intellectronicaelmo: right, you mean the milestone madness17:06
elmooh, right17:06
elmoI saw a long list of crap17:06
elmoassumed it was tags ;-)17:06
elmosorry17:06
intellectronicayeah that's bonkers17:06
mptbug 5097017:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 50970 in malone "Don't list irrelevant milestones for person Bugs advanced search" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5097017:06
intellectronicathat entire page could do with a redesign17:06
mptfirst reported on 2006-06-26 by  Matthew Paul Thomas17:06
intellectronicasorry, elmo, i only picked that up because we introduced new behaviour for tag searches, and i wanted to hear if ppl have problems with it17:07
ubotuNew bug: #187353 in launchpad-answers "project/+myquestions initial search uses different criteria than those shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18735317:11
mptelmo, but if we didn't have an implicit default for status search, then by unchecking all the statuses it'd be possible to do a search that always returned zero results, and what would be the point of that? :-)17:12
elmompt: then don't allow them all to be unchecked - but "nothing selected => 3 states selected you don't know about, haha" is evil17:18
mptfair point17:20
mptthough GUIs don't (and therefore HTML forms don't) have a standard "at least one of these" widget17:20
elmoyeah17:21
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edu710hi everyone17:39
edu710i discover this forum by the launchpad-meeting17:39
mrevelledu710: welcome :)17:40
edu710re hi 17:40
edu710;-))17:40
edu710a good page https://help.launchpad.net/17:41
IulianIndeed17:42
ssh_rdpHi, just a question? those this url works for you? http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~exaile-devel/exaile/main/files17:44
ssh_rdpI am trying to branch lp:exaile and it doesn't work17:45
ssh_rdpIt gives me a CherryPy error17:48
LaserJockquick question, is it possible to let *any* team member set the team as a bug contact?17:52
LaserJockI haven't found any option for it but I could be looking in the wrong place17:53
mptHobbsee, what did you mean by "removing search dialog boxes"?18:13
ubotuNew bug: #187367 in launchpad "Offering mentorship seems to be a no-op" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18736718:15
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PaulSmitsis it possible for a translator to ask the developers a question about a certain word, sentence, etc.?18:21
LaserJockPaulSmits: you can always try :-)18:29
mptelmo, the statuses problem is bug 15086718:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 150867 in malone "Status defaults in advanced search page are misleading" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15086718:29
ubotuNew bug: #187369 in malone "Can't use any Bugs search form for searching in any context" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18736918:31
elmompt: thanks18:31
PaulSmitsyes, im trying, LaserJock... but it might be a nice feature: being able to (directly) ask a developing team about a word/sentence/etc that's hard to translate because of e.g. double meanings.18:35
LaserJockPaulSmits: ah18:36
LaserJockthat's a good question18:36
PaulSmitsso i figure it isn't possible?18:41
mptPaulSmits, it's not possible within Launchpad18:42
PaulSmitsok18:42
mptbut you should be able to go to "Overview" (perhaps opening the link in a separate window) and find out who the developers are, and get their contact info18:42
LaserJockPaulSmits: it wouldn't seem feasible from LP directly as I don't know that LP would know who to talk to18:43
LaserJockbut yeah, as mpt said, it should be fairly straightforwad to figure out an email list or something to ask18:43
mptbug 211 might be relevant here18:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211 in rosetta "Add comments to POFile for communication between translators" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21118:44
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anathanielhi there18:50
anathaniellooking for an Ubuntu enthusiast from Bangalore18:50
ubotuNew bug: #187376 in soyuz "Distribution source package release page links to non-existent distribution series source package release page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18737618:50
anathanielanybody there?18:52
PaulSmitsi found this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/suggestion-approve-rejection-explanation18:52
PaulSmitsseems to solve the problem a bit18:52
mptanathaniel, this channel is about Launchpad, not about Ubuntu or India18:54
mptanathaniel, I suggest looking for an Indian Ubuntu LoCo team on the Ubuntu Web site18:54
anathanielok18:57
anathanielthanks mpt18:57
anathanielis there an Ubuntu room on Freenode?18:57
mtayloranathaniel: yup... #ubuntu18:57
anathanielthanks mtaylor18:58
PaulSmitswhere can i find information about the next meeting?19:06
thumperHobbsee: what'd I kill?19:30
ubotuNew bug: #187410 in launchpad "In launchpad translations, adding a second template doesn't work if the name of the second template is a prefix of the first" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18741021:21
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Odd_BlokeWhat's the best way to upgrade a branch from knits to packs?  Rename the old one to something else and push the new one?23:06
Rinchenhttp://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/developers/packrepo.html#upgrading-an-existing-branch-or-repository-to-knitpack-format23:07
RinchenOdd_Bloke, look just above that for the --upgrade method23:08
Odd_BlokeOh yeah, totally forgot I could upgrade remotely. /o\23:13
Odd_BlokeRinchen: Thanks. :)23:13
RinchenOdd_Bloke, you're welcome!23:14

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