=== doko_ is now known as doko === Varka_ is now known as Varka === asac_ is now known as asac === antdedyet is now known as E_NOMAD === E_NOMAD is now known as antdedyet === antdedyet is now known as technomad === technomad is now known as technoant === technoant is now known as technogeek === technogeek is now known as technoant === ubotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Edubuntu meeting Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 30 Jan 20:00 UTC: Security Team | 30 Jan 21:00 UTC: Server Team | 01 Feb 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 13 Feb 22:30 UTC: Forum Council | 20 Feb 01:00 UTC: TriLoCo-Midwest [12:02] hello edubuntu meeting [12:02] hello RichEd [12:02] who do we have around today ? [12:02] hi juliux :) [12:02] still at work but around;) [12:03] * Hobbsee comes in to disrupt the meeting [12:03] ahh Hobbsee ... hi there :) [12:04] so looks like just RichEd juliux Hobbsee & ogra then ? [12:04] hiya RichEd! [12:04] * RichEd waits for ogra to kick of with a short tech update - including the distro sprint last week [12:04] hey [12:05] well, most of my sprint time was invested into classmate to get it running with the new hardy kernel [12:05] but we also discussed the Cd changes [12:05] [ actually glad to have juliux & Hobbsee ... we have been asked to get an opinion from the community on a name migration so please wait around to chat about that ] [12:06] sadly the scripts are not completely transitioned yet as i hoped for alpha4 [12:06] RichEd: any name will be acceptable, as long as it has reference to either a) monty python, or b) hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. [12:06] so alpha4 will still build a server CD but i dont test it [12:07] if you want to test install media, please test ubuntu alternate with the preseed options set as i stated in my mail recently [12:07] (to test ltsp) [12:08] cjwatson is busy changing the seed management to please us and get the plain addon setup going soon ... === nalioth__ is now known as nalioth [12:09] i have some bad ltsp bugs on y plate (i.e. ldm consolekit integration to make authenticated apps (sudo and the like) work at all on ltsp atm) [12:09] the dekstop changed a lot in this regard and ltsp isnt up to date here yet [12:11] johnny who isnt here but a resident in #edubuntu did a lot on sabayon ... talking to upstream and getting fixes in etc [12:11] i hope i find the time this week to update that [12:11] (there is a new upstream waiting) === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [12:11] seed changes will land after alpha4 [12:11] (I got blocked on a few more bits of infrastructure I'd missed) [12:12] * ogra didnt complain :) and the community wont either [12:12] ogra: once the seed changes are done, I'd appreciate it if you could make the CD build script changes; I will be happy to help you [12:12] (dare you guys :) ) [12:12] cjwatson, ok, will do [12:12] ogra: what sort of kernel problems did you encounter on the classmate? [12:12] (I didn't get a chance to talk with you at the sprint about this) [12:13] cjwatson, after searching 1.5 days i found the clocksource detection to be at fault [12:13] oh, fun [12:13] BenC knows about it ... [12:13] and you can set colcksource as grub parameter [12:13] so its not to bad actually [12:13] is there a suitably milestoned bug to ensure that it doesn't get forgotten? [12:13] well, and i'm still experimenting with tickless [12:14] not yet, i'll add one [12:14] thanks [12:14] but it seems i'm not the only one with that pob so i suspect ther is a bug already [12:14] *prob [12:14] ogra has sent me a summary of CK problems in ssh, which I will process and try to work out [12:15] we'll have a solution in any case fo CK ... the question is just which one :) [12:16] beyond all that i'll upload my corrected classmate-initramfs and -setings packages to the archive this week (since i need them for the image) [12:16] fortunately the ssh -X / consolekit problems are reproducible on a normal system [12:16] with the setup with the livefs-rootfs scripts it should then be possible for everyone to build his own classmate image [12:17] ogra: can you and i touch sides tomorrow on the classmate issues going back & forth with intel ... and then prep a mail report for cjwatson and then on to intel ? [12:17] cjwatson, easiest would be to hook it into the ssh X proxy code ... but then we'd miss the case where ssh -x is used with a DISPLAY variable (which i suspect is used by more ltsp users than the default) [12:18] I need to read a few examples of consolekit integration before I can comment [12:18] RichEd, sure ... even though i think colin is up to date with everything on the tech side, i usually copy all my mails [12:18] chris is very keen for us to hold them to the contract, and sort out any variances formally ... there is definately scope creep from their side [12:19] cjwatson, in case you dont know it: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mccann/doc/ConsoleKit/ConsoleKit.html [12:19] hello [12:19] i also have access to upstream, he's in #ltsp regulary atm for quick questions [12:20] ogra: thanks, I hadn't seen that and that's definitely useful [12:20] well, thats all from my side ... LaserJock sent two mails to edubuntu-devel i'd like to pul peoples attention to [12:21] cjwatson, and mccann would love to help us out with whatever is needed (even CK upstream changes) if it improves :) [12:21] fedorea has similar probs :) [12:21] *fedora [12:22] and nobody with a colin watson-ish insight in openssh ;) [12:23] so i'm done with my tech stuff, stgraber anything new about iTalc ? [12:23] ogra: summarise the LaserJock issues quickly please ... he did bring them up at the meeting last week [12:23] hey stgraber :) you snuck in there [12:23] he'd like to chaneg the app selection ... rasmol should be replaced by gnome-chemistry-utils [12:24] okay ... sounds fine ... [12:24] squeak is in bad shape and he tries to solve that with upstream to get us better packages [12:24] he also mentioned there was no firm answer on where to do the menu editing ... [12:24] and he's busy with edubuntu-menus asking how to develop a gui for it [12:24] he said you proposed alacarte ... but there was some reluctance from his side [12:25] (which i dont see happening two weeks before freeze though) [12:25] RichEd, well, if you edit menus you will use the menu editor [12:25] ogra: np ... let's keep it moving forwards anyway ... regardless of the current cycle [12:25] sorry, yes I was contacted by iTalc's upstream and he was as surprised as I'm about the various bugs I've found [12:25] so imho that feature needs to be in the menu editor gui [12:25] that made sense to me as well [12:26] hence i was unsure why that was not the obvious route [12:26] we need at least a proper documented wayx how to do it on the commandline though if we release it [12:26] i'll talk to him this week [12:26] to clearify that [12:26] ogra: oh, I dunno, I suspect the RH openssh maintainer at least is better than I am [12:26] are there any or many people who are working on alacarte ? that we could draw on for help or at least some mentorship / guidance ? [12:27] cjwatson, mccann didnt sound like that :) [12:27] if we aim for alacarte integrtion by 8.10 we may be able to get some new resources working on LaserJocks requirements as a project [12:28] RichEd, i think alacarte is the gnome default menu editor upstream now ... but they dont agree with LaserJocks implementation using overlays afaik so i dont expect much help from that side ... [12:28] we'd need a community guy knowing the alacarte code a bit [12:29] the alacarte author is an Ubuntu community guy [12:29] Amaranth [12:29] the only one i know is Amaranth ... but he's so much into compiz that i fear he wont be available [12:29] ogra: this is starting to sound like the conversation with LaserJock ... we need to pick a route, define the requirements, and push forwards [12:29] :) [12:30] yeah [12:30] could we get someone like cody somerville (the newish voluteer) to tackle at least an overview plan [12:30] i dotn expect to have something thats polished and fully integrated by #hardy [12:31] he should have the time to start some conversations [12:31] but having the backend bits done and stable would be a major step towards what we want [12:31] ogra: that's fine re hardy ... but this spec seems to stall often [12:31] well, its a massive amount of work [12:31] so lets aim for 8.10 and get someone on it who is not tied up with the current release cycle [12:31] i never expected it to be done in less than two releases [12:32] (it took three yet though and might be done after five) [12:32] le me chat to cody by mail ... will cc you and LaserJock [12:32] *let [12:32] i'm sure we could get something hacked together quickly outside of alacarte ... but i dont want such stuff in hardy [12:34] any more tech stuff ? [12:35] stgraber, so whats the reaction of upstream (beyond being surprised) ? [12:35] does he want your fixes ? [12:35] is he aware that ltsp5 works different from 4.x ? [12:36] he wants to fix but he seems to be lacking of time [12:36] well, he could start with just including your fixes :) [12:36] and the network bug is really weird (port open on a computer but not on another ...) [12:36] that shouldnt take a major amount of time [12:36] * RichEd is back in 5 min [12:36] sounds like /hosts.allow/deny chime in ... [12:37] (just a guess though) [12:37] indeed, but instead of using env vars as I'm currently doing it'd be better to fix it using the same parameters as ica itself [12:37] well, the weird thing is that doing a nmap -p 5800 localhost returns a value on my laptop and not on my test computer [12:37] right [12:38] both running Hardy on amd64 ... [12:38] and I think it's the same bug causing the demo problem I had before (as looking at the debug messages it seems italc is unable to reach the local vnc server and then to broadcast our screen to the other computers, causing the crash I had) [12:39] we should combine thin client manager and italc :P [12:39] broadcasting was actually the only vnc function that works flawless there :) [12:40] hmm.. i'm sad about having a whole another service to do this kinda thing [12:40] i need to read more i suppose [12:40] johnny, iTalc is supposed to replace TCM [12:40] yes i know that [12:40] yes, especially as italc currently crashes when using the demo mode, it's not "just not working" [12:40] as TCM has no maintainer [12:40] but when i heard that it had it's own services [12:40] i was suprised [12:40] TCM has a client as well [12:41] look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d if you have it installed [12:41] I don't think the iTalc bug is that hard to fix neither is the slight improvment I want (-ivsport and -isdport for italc as we have for ica), I just have no C++/QT knowledge [12:41] (it was called scp (student control panel) before) [12:41] so it takes me a lot of time to figure out what's wrong and then to find a way to fix it :) [12:42] stgraber, can we make it work out of the box with features disabled though ? [12:42] with the port problem I currently have, no [12:42] hmm [12:43] with this bug, iTalc is just unable to contact its own ica (daemon) and any other daemon (the clients) [12:43] then TCM should get some attention at least, we need at least oe tool to ship [12:43] i'm inclined to just drop the VNC feature from TCM [12:44] I have found the problem and workarounded the other in only a couple of hours, so someone with C++ knowledge should be able to fix the bug easily [12:44] all others dont have probs and i'd like to have some session control available [12:44] I'm not sure we really want to support tcm for 3 years :) [12:44] how hackish is your workaround ? [12:44] not sure we want to support a pre version of iTalc for three years either :) [12:45] not that much, it's just using a IVSPORT env var to send the ica port (as in our case the port is different for each client) [12:45] to have it done the proper way, the getenv() should be replaced by a command parameter (-ivsport) [12:45] is it possible for the user to modify that ? or is it relatively safe ? [12:46] i.e. if i set the var to something will italc respect that override ? [12:46] (it shouldnt for safety reasons) [12:47] could we have a wrapper script that forces a value ? [12:47] so overrides arent possible [12:47] it'll connect on the port specified in the env var, if not it'll fallback to the default value [12:48] sounds somehow solvable [12:49] my real problem is ica not listening to its ports ... the only thing I'm sure of is that it's not one of my patches that are causing that [12:49] well, anyway, we should discuss tech details off meeting [12:50] indeed [12:50] can we move on to art then ? [12:50] from my side we can [12:50] any more tech from anyone else ? [12:51] uhmm? i don't know the protocols for these meetings, so i'll abstain until i can read some guidelines [12:51] our wallpaper volunteer (jill) made a start on a new desktop ... she sent samples to ogra and myself ... [12:51] johnny: jump in ... [12:51] johnny, its parted in two hlafs [12:51] what would you like to chat about ? [12:51] first is tech, second is community etc [12:51] well, i was concerned about the fact that autologin was promoted, but never worked [12:51] RichEd, as i said before johnny cared a lot for sabayon [12:52] still care "ing" :) [12:52] we do tech / art / distro stuff in part 1 ... then onto web site community etc. in part 2 [12:52] * RichEd thanks johnny [12:52] johnny, there are patches in LP i'll add soon [12:52] vagrantc put in a patch supposably [12:52] that should fix it .... [12:52] to ldm [12:52] as of a few hours that is [12:52] he pulled one from francis both, sbalneav and me werent happy about back then [12:53] yeah, scott was gonna write a new one, but he disappeared [12:53] but since scott didnt show up until yesterday i'm considering using that one [12:53] there is still a lot of time for bugfixes [12:53] oh.. scott is back? [12:53] would it be feasible to have an ltsp meeting ? [12:53] and then report back on the next ubuntu meeting [12:53] (bugs can be fixed all the time during the release cycle) [12:54] well, usually scott attends this meeting [12:54] but i doubt warren or vagrantc does.. [12:54] since next time we'll have the late one (20:00 UTC i expect him to be here) [12:54] i dont care about warren [12:54] (form a distro maintainer POV) [12:54] thus was speaking of ltsp in general [12:55] well, if you want to organize a ltsp meeting and teh others agree we need one, go ahaed :) [12:55] i'll fix the ltsp bugs along the way to hardy anyway [12:56] ok [12:56] so, anybody have any issues with sabayon they wanted to bring up in this forum? [12:56] otherwise i'm done with tech for now until i can think onger [12:56] longer* [12:56] i think they are all on launchpad :) [12:56] been there done that :) [12:56] right [12:56] even got some patches from redhat bugtracker [12:57] i'll try to get the new upstream in this week ... [12:57] still waiting for federico to return ,he just had a daughter [12:57] but i want to look at upstreams solution for two patches they solved differently [12:57] before deciding on the next step [12:57] i didnt find the time fr that yet, but its on my list [12:57] well, lemme know :) [12:58] will do [12:58] i guess you are subbed to the bugs [12:58] ? [12:58] bugs in general? or specific bugs? [12:58] sabayon [12:58] launchpad or gnome? [12:59] launchpad [12:59] i'll put my comments there [12:59] ok [12:59] so lets communicate through LP [12:59] RichEd, stage is yours [12:59] show us the bling :) [13:03] hi ... [13:03] our wallpaper volunteer (jill) made a start on a new desktop ... she sent samples to ogra and myself ... [13:03] she herself said they may be too busy and i agree [13:04] yeah [13:04] well, they might be good for a young desktop [13:04] they are very cluttered ... not like the ubuntu cleanness [13:04] ogra: as an optional, they are okay ... too much for a default though [13:04] right [13:04] so if anyone has any artwork "theme" suggestions or ideas, i can get jill to think about ? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [13:05] perhaps i should bounce off the mail lists [13:06] okay ... on to the naming issue i mentioned earlier ... Hobbsee & juliux your comments would be appreciated [13:06] but also stgraber's and johnny's :) [13:06] it's been suggested that as we move towards the current edubuntu being an add-op on top of an ubuntu install: [13:07] " is edubuntu a true distro of its own, and does the naming still make sense ? " [13:07] my impression from ogra was that it wont' be one [13:08] " would it be more accurate to call the Ubuntu Install with Edubuntu/Education Add on something like: Ubuntu Education Edition " [13:08] we've been asked to float those questions / views, and then have a good debate at the next meeting which is a community council one [13:09] my own view is that we could migrate the naming as follows: [13:09] johnny, well, we wont let a brand vanish if there is a need for it :) currently the idea is to get both communities closer together and to loose the image of the childs distro ... [13:09] edubuntu 8.04 - ubuntu education edition [13:09] ubuntu 8.10 education edition (edubuntu) [13:09] edu in ubuntu is more than kindergarden and elementary school, we'd like to reflect that [13:09] ubuntu 9.04 - education edition [13:09] --- [13:10] somebody in the channel was asking for apps for middle schoolers [13:10] ooh, look what I found :) [13:10] kdeedu :) [13:10] nixternal, ? [13:10] tell us ? [13:10] we don't want a huge debate now, we'll save that for next week, but any immediate thoughts or opinions from anyone to get onto the table ? [13:10] i'm not familiar with the apps themselves , i am only in edubuntu because of the ltsp affiliation.. or at least that's how i got started [13:10] RichEd and ogra: I am updating the Edubuntu chapter btw for the book, so I will get with you both this week and torment you [13:10] I mean pick your brains :) [13:10] great [13:10] there wont be much change [13:10] nixternal: pick me a nice one please [13:11] except for LTSP going into Ubuntu Server :p [13:11] hehe RichEd [13:11] RichEd: it will be interesting to see hwo that goes, as kubuntu may end up doing the same [13:11] i like the idea of helping education and linux tho [13:11] nixternal, ubuntu-alternate :) [13:11] -server has no desktop apps [13:11] Hobbsee: expand on that ? [13:11] err, ya alternate [13:11] sorry [13:11] RichEd: from a marketing perspective, it probably makes sense to keep ubuntu in the name - so ubuntu 8.10 education edition (edubuntu) would be my pick [13:11] * Hobbsee needs to type faster! [13:11] nixternal, but ltsp itself wont see much changes wrt configuration etc [13:12] groovy [13:12] what about KDE Edu? You guys need some work on it? [13:12] RichEd: at least in kubuntu, and i presume edubuntu as well, there are lots of questions on "so, should i install ubuntu or kubuntu", they think it requires different repos to run, aren't co installable, etc. [13:12] main focus for ltsp is to make it the most stable and solid one we had yet [13:12] there will be a bug fix release in February [13:12] Hobbsee: thanks ... new people hearing about ubuntu do not alwayds get as far as finding or understanding edubuntu (especially in foreign language regions) [13:12] nixternal, it needs additions to all its .desktop files [13:12] we think the new approach will lead them from ubuntu to the education add on more successfully [13:13] * RichEd needs to get moving for another meeting ... but peope are welcome to mail me comments ... [13:13] i' [13:13] apparently KDE apps dont use the StartupNotify setting .... but thats for off-meeting :) [13:13] ogra: OK, we can take a look at that after the meeting and it all worked out [13:13] ahh [13:13] I'll leave this window open and #edubuntu ... but need to move on [13:13] ogra: can you handle the wrap up from here on in ? [13:13] is there anything left apart from "questions anyone ?" ? [13:13] :) [13:14] yep .. that bit ... [13:14] heh [13:14] bye all & thanks [13:14] questions anyone ? [13:14] RichEd: i think you want to keep the "ubuntu" name, if you're going to remarket at all - ie, not edubuntu - make it known as ubuntu + blah. [13:15] Hobbsee, for edubuntu that akes perfect sense ... [13:15] i dont see it for kubuntu though [13:15] ogra: kubuntu is harder, but yes. [13:15] edubuntu can be an addon to either desktop [13:15] and thus doesnt actually need a system install CD [13:15] thats the whole idea behind that change [13:16] kubuntu will always want its own base CD [13:16] until we all have dvd drives.. [13:16] instead of being any kind of addon [13:16] but that will be a long time.. [13:16] johnny, no option for edu ... for the next ten years i guess [13:17] anyway ... [13:17] if theer are no other questions .... [13:17] going once ... [13:18] going twice ... [13:18] what's the answer to life, the universe and everything? [13:18] 42 [13:18] oh good [13:18] so not 37 then [13:18] tis 63 [13:18] anyway, adjourned ... (i was referring to serious questions rather :) ) [13:19] next meeting is wed at 20:00 UTC ... thanks all for attending [13:19] ogra: awww. but i said iw as going to come in and disrupt your meeting, so i had to add it :) [13:19] you waited quite long though [13:19] not much to disturb anymore [13:19] i was distracted. putting out spot fires. [13:28] @now [13:28] @schedule rome [13:29] @schedule === edson is now known as puzzle === puzzle is now known as edson === davies is now known as jpatrick === ubotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 30 Jan 20:00 UTC: Security Team | 30 Jan 21:00 UTC: Server Team | 01 Feb 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 13 Feb 22:30 UTC: Forum Council | 20 Feb 01:00 UTC: TriLoCo-Midwest === technoant is now known as antdedyet === czessi_ is now known as Czessi [15:14] @schedule rome [15:14] Schedule for Europe/Rome: 30 Jan 21:00: Security Team | 30 Jan 22:00: Server Team | 01 Feb 21:00: MOTU | 13 Feb 23:30: Forum Council | 20 Feb 02:00: TriLoCo-Midwest [15:16] @schedule montreal [15:16] Schedule for America/Montreal: 30 Jan 15:00: Security Team | 30 Jan 16:00: Server Team | 01 Feb 15:00: MOTU | 13 Feb 17:30: Forum Council | 19 Feb 20:00: TriLoCo-Midwest === freeflyi2g is now known as freeflying [16:00] * pedro_ waves [16:00] hi pedro_ [16:00] hello [16:00] hello ogasawara, stgraber [16:00] ouch, what a good timing, just finished a call :) [16:00] jejeje [16:01] hi [16:02] hi nand [16:03] so it seems heno is out sick for the meeting [16:03] I'm at work, not easy for me! [16:03] oh [16:03] hiya Leann, thanks for taking us to that place yesterday. [16:04] Mithrandir: np :) it was fun! [16:04] ogasawara, yeah, did you arrange for someone else to chair this meeting? [16:04] liw: nope [16:04] liw: I nominate you :) [16:04] bdmurray, are you there? [16:05] liw: he's at intel today [16:05] liw: kind of I have to run though [16:05] ok [16:05] then we could start [16:05] I can chair, I just need to find the bot instructions [16:06] liw: use #startmeeting [16:06] right, found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot?highlight=%28mootbot%29 [16:06] #startmeeting [16:06] Meeting started at 16:06. The chair is liw. [16:06] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:06] welcome to the QA team weekly meeting [16:06] agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings [16:06] woohoo! [16:06] heh [16:07] [TOPIC] London sprint QA highlights [16:07] New Topic: London sprint QA highlights [16:07] so, we had a distro team sprint in London last week, and that included the Canonical QA people; it wasn't a community event, but we should report the QA related highlights [16:08] I've got a few things . . . [16:08] for me: I got some advice on using KVM, and discussed expanding automatic desktop testing to the graphical installer, and worked together with Marc Tardif to create a package based on his hwtest framework that will run packaged automated desktop tests [16:09] also, various people suggested including, in some form or another, automatic tests they have made, e.g., for security work [16:09] as a team we drafted out SRU process, bug workflow, bug forwarding, re-organizing the Debugging* wiki pages [16:10] oh, and I made changes to the piuparts testing harness to provide a summary that can be included in the developer weather report [16:10] And also we verified some of the outstanding SRU's ;-) [16:11] oh and went through the iso-testing bugs [16:12] anything else? [16:12] one of the new things that we are going to introduce are the new desktop hug days based on of course desktop packages they will be held the Thursdays so stay tune [16:13] oh, so we'll have two hug days ? [16:13] yes sr [16:13] the first one being for the base system and the second for the GUI apps ? [16:15] the second one is supposed to be based on Desktop apps like alacarte, evolution, nautilus, etc we have a few hundreds bugs there that need love [16:15] and yeah the first one is more base system but includes another GUI apps like openoffice.org [16:16] good, let's hope we'll have as many people for the desktop hugday as we do for the current one [16:16] anything else? [16:17] if so, let's get back to this point later [16:17] [TOPIC] Nautilus bug day [16:17] New Topic: Nautilus bug day [16:18] pedro? ogasawara? (assuming bdmurray ran away already) [16:18] the nautilus bug day went pretty fine we have some stats at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080129 [16:18] cool [16:18] a couple of new faces helped out [16:18] excellent [16:19] anything else about this? [16:20] yes the good thing is that the bugs that we need confirmation to be fixed with nautilus-gio a good portion are fixed [16:20] so thanks to all the brave bug testers ;-) [16:20] indeed :) [16:21] [TOPIC] Alpha 4 testing [16:21] New Topic: Alpha 4 testing [16:23] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-January/000371.html is the announcement for Alpha 4, from yesterday, so Alpha 4 should happen tomorrow [16:23] Do we have candidates ready for testing ? [16:23] I have done some netboot testing yesterday with good results [16:23] how are we set up for that? is everything in order to start testing tomorrow once the ISOs are released? [16:23] the only problem being the new restricted-manager being buggy (I had to install my nvidia driver by hand) [16:24] I have set "Hardy Alpha 4" as the default milestone on the tracker [16:24] so any website admin can now add the builds (pitti and slangasek know how to do so) [16:25] ich auch [16:25] stgraber, so the iso tracker is ready for everything? that should mean we're ready to start testing, yes? [16:26] yes [16:26] excellent [16:27] [TOPIC] QA-Poll beta [16:27] New Topic: QA-Poll beta [16:27] oh, my turn. [16:27] nand: stage is yours :) [16:27] Well, I was hoping to see heno today for the domains names! [16:28] otherwise everything is ready [16:28] for upload and a private testing period [16:28] apart from the fact that we need to merge devel with trunk again (which may take some time) :) [16:28] I just need confirmation for the subdomains to tweak my .htaccess scripts :) [16:28]