[00:07] <gtt> hello
[00:07] <Pici> gtt: Hello, how can we help you today?
[00:08] <gtt> just wanted to make sure it was ok for me to be back in #kubuntu...
[00:08] <Pici> I dont know... /me looks
[00:08] <gtt> i'm in there now.... i'll be good.
[00:09] <Pici> gtt: The ban has not been lifted.  iirc, you were asked to come back in here to discuss the ban before it would be removed.
[00:09] <gtt> ok
[00:09] <gtt> i left it
[00:09] <gtt> that
[00:09] <gtt> s why i was coming back.
[00:09] <gtt> konversation autojoins... i was just not getting kicked out i guess.
[00:10] <Pici> jpatrick, jussi01: ping
[00:11] <Pici> hrm.
[00:11] <Pici> Jucato perhaps? ^ #kubuntu ban removal request.
[00:12] <Jucato> hm lemme see
[00:13] <Jucato> what did jussi01 say about this?
[00:13] <Pici> Jucato: jussi01 had asked that he come back in 24 hours to be discussed further.
[00:13] <Pici> I can dig up a log...
[00:15] <Jucato> hm... I'm not really comfortable removing other people's bans w/o their knowledge/permission...
[00:17] <Pici> Jucato: er, okay: http://pastebin.com/fad94be5
[00:17] <gtt> is the ban specific to #kubuntu (just want to make sure i dont have any other 'infractions')
[00:18] <Jucato> Pici: ah ok... well if you say so, I can remove his ban. just give the word. :)
[00:19] <Pici> Jucato: err.  I'm not telling you to remove the ban if you don't want to.
[00:19]  * PriceChild looks in
[00:20] <Jucato> Pici: heheh it's not that I don't want to. just not sure about the policy of removing other op's bans.... but if you were there and it was jussi01's intention that it would be removed... etc etc etc :)
[00:21] <Pici> Jucato: I believe it was jussi01's intetion that the ban would be reviewed after a day, not necessarily removed.
[00:21] <Jucato> oh ok :)
[00:21] <PriceChild> gtt, What is #kubuntu for?
[00:21] <gtt> it's for discussions about #kubuntu
[00:21] <gtt> and people are pretty picky if ya mention anything else.
[00:22] <gtt> so i dont
[00:22] <PriceChild> No it isn't.
[00:22] <Jucato> it's actually for asking help about Kubuntu.. not general talk about Kubuntu
[00:23] <PriceChild> * Topic for #kubuntu is: Official Kubuntu support | yadayadayada
[00:23] <PriceChild> gtt, what made you post such a malicious command in there?
[00:23] <gtt> i dont know any other way of uninstalling...and without sudo it's not that malicious
[00:24] <PriceChild> aha, I see 2008-01-28T19:31:04 <smeril> what is the uninstall command?
[00:24] <gtt> right
[00:24] <PriceChild> gtt, what if the user meant "what is the uninstall command to uninstall packages?"
[00:24] <Pici> But that question is vauge, he could have been asking to uninstall x?... bah, too slow.
[00:25] <gtt> my answer wouldn't have been helpful.
[00:25] <PriceChild> gtt, Rather than the entire OS. Do you believe that this is a valid interpretation?
[00:25] <PriceChild> "Wouldn't have been helpful"?! Dude you would have lost *all their data*
[00:25] <PriceChild> including any mounted volumes such as ipods etc.
[00:26] <mneptok> gtt: if asked "what's a good strategy for getting out of my parent's house?" a good answer is not "murder everyone and burn the house down."
[00:26] <gtt> you're right.
[00:27]  * Jucato is now scared of mneptok...
[00:27] <PriceChild> Jucato, only now?
[00:27] <Pici> only just now?
[00:27]  * mneptok polishes his halo and eats another kitten
[00:27] <Jucato> hehehe :)
[00:27] <Jucato> nooo!! not the kitties!!!
[00:27] <PriceChild> gtt, so what happens next time you misunderstand a question in #kubuntu?
[00:28] <mneptok> BLAME MNEPTOK!
[00:28] <mneptok> uhhh ... strike that.
[00:29] <gtt> ok, it was bad manners. i'll ask for more information and not give an answer that can delete anything unintentionally.
[00:30] <gtt> (and careless)
[00:30] <PriceChild> !guideline | gtt
[00:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guideline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:30] <PriceChild> grr
[00:30] <PriceChild> !guidelines | gtt
[00:30] <ubotu> gtt: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:30] <gtt> and also if it was in the official support channel it'd be bad for canonical too.
[00:30] <PriceChild> gtt, go and read those please & ping me when you're done.
[00:31] <PriceChild> gtt, ¢anonical has no direct connection to the irc support channels. All they do is host logs.
[00:33] <gtt> guess i misunderstood the "official" (still reading)
[00:33] <PriceChild> gtt, ¢anonical isn't ubuntu. They just happen to pay the wages of a lot of developers, as well as provide paid support.
[00:34] <PriceChild> hmmm that autoreplace isn't appropriate here.
[00:35] <gtt> heh.. ok, i read it...again
[00:36] <gtt> PriceChild: ping
[00:38] <PriceChild> gtt, Ok so we've covered the "don't post dangerous commands in #kubuntu"?
[00:38] <gtt> i hope so
[00:38] <PriceChild> You've promise its not going to happen again?
[00:38] <gtt> promise
[00:39] <PriceChild> So the other little issue. gtt what is with the ban evasion?
[00:39] <gtt> that's not really a ban evasion...
[00:39] <PriceChild> what's not?
[00:39] <gtt> during the day, i use my laptop on my cell phone, and the connection is kind of crappy.
[00:39] <gtt> it's slow reconnecting, and when i reconnected, konversation autojoined on the kubuntu
[00:40] <gtt> i know it seems like it could be.
[00:40] <PriceChild> Ok
[00:41] <PriceChild> gtt, you may rejoin #kubuntu. Please abide by the IRC guidelines when participating in the channel.
[00:41] <gtt> i'm more of a user of irc, and i'm a pretty advanced OS user... but i don't think i know enough about irc to attempt to effectively evade a ban.. it's not worth my effort.
[00:42] <gtt> you got it. i'll try to stay out of your hair.
[00:42] <PriceChild> I'll believe you :)
[00:43] <PriceChild> gtt, anything else we can help with?
[00:43] <mneptok> gtt: and help yourself to the fried chicken before you leave. it's awesome.
[00:43] <gtt> no, thanks for listening to me and all that good gunk tho.
[00:43] <gtt> seeya
[00:43] <PriceChild> have fun
[00:44]  * gtt takes the chicken thigh
[00:44] <mneptok> *bawk bawk*
[00:45] <mneptok> wait ... is there really fried chicken?!
[00:46] <PriceChild> jussi01, please ping me when you're around.
[03:05] <LjL> i banned m0nk from #ubuntu-offtopic for posting a malicious link
[03:05] <LjL> people there went a tad too far really
[03:06] <tritium> Quite reasonable, LjL
[03:07] <LjL> i'm going to bed though so i'm not taking complains until tomorrow. look at the log, a while before the actual ban, if he comes here
[03:08] <tritium> Sleep well, LjL
[03:34] <wolferine> can I get an explaination as to why I am banned in #Ubuntu ?
[03:34] <tritium> wolferine: sure, for your attitude
[03:35] <wolferine> tritium ?
[03:35] <SNuxoll> mneptok: if you are trying to make a point, you are being very childish about it
[03:35] <mneptok> SNuxoll: i was talking to YOU. what gets said to others is not a concern.
[03:35] <mneptok> SNuxoll: i asked you very politely to dial the language back.
[03:36] <SNuxoll> mneptok: no, it IS a concern, I'm tired of unequal enforcment of the rules
[03:36] <mneptok> SNuxoll: it's EXACTLY the same as L j L asking
[03:36] <mneptok> SNuxoll: get used to it. not everyone can see everything all the time.
[03:37] <SNuxoll> no, they can't, but you seem to have a personal grudge against me, because you seem to find every tedious little thing you can to yell at me for, please tell me if I'm jumping the ship here
[03:37] <mneptok> SNuxoll: i saw you saying things "suck" and that you're "pissed" and other language that is borderline. i asked you, quite nicely, to stop. you refused.
[03:37] <mneptok> SNuxoll: i can't remember the last time i addressed you.
[03:38] <tritium> SNuxoll: no, it's not personal.  We all enforce the policy on foul language, so as to keep the channels family-friendly.
[03:38] <wolferine> is there any more ops around ?
[03:38] <SNuxoll> tritium: please read the #ubuntu-offtopic log for the past hour
[03:38] <SNuxoll> and I wasn't aware that 'sucks' was considered language
[03:39] <mneptok> SNuxoll: you were banned not for language, but for outright *refusing* the request of an op.
[03:39] <tritium> SNuxoll: what matters is that you were asked nicely to tone it down
[03:39] <SNuxoll> mneptok: I was not outright refusing the request of a op!
[03:39] <mneptok> 22:32 < SNuxoll> mneptok: last I checked that wasn't language, and if it was LjL would have yelled at me
[03:39] <mneptok> 22:33 < SNuxoll> mneptok: ok, then you should be yelling at the other 20 regulars in this room for using that language regularly too
[03:40] <SNuxoll> that's not refusing the request of a op!
[03:40] <mneptok> oh please.
[03:40] <SNuxoll> refusing would be something like "mneptok: so what, I don't care"
[03:41] <mneptok> telling me what the rules are, and saying that "this other op would have done something" is hardly the same as "OK, i'll tone it down."
[03:41] <wolferine> if tritium has replied to me, can someone let me know, as I have set him/her on /ignore ?
[03:41] <tritium> wolferine: we have a code of conduct that involved treating people with respect.
[03:41] <SNuxoll> DEFINE WHAT THE RULES ARE, and how was I not treating people with respect?
[03:42] <mneptok> !ohmy > SNuxoll
[03:42] <SNuxoll> I'm sorry, but I take family friendly as not using the dreaded 'four letter words'
[03:42] <SNuxoll> F, S, D, C, etc
[03:42] <mneptok> SNuxoll: you are entitled to that opinion. we are entitled to ours.
[03:43] <SNuxoll> mneptok: that's the problem, there is no clear rule so it's up to your opinion
[03:43] <mneptok> SNuxoll: i didn;t ban you without telling you exactly what i wanted.
[03:43] <mneptok> SNuxoll: you chose, as an adult, to make an issue out of it. now, like an adult, you need to live with the consequences of your actions.
[03:44] <SNuxoll> please define what you consider 'language'
[03:44] <mneptok> i already did.
[03:44] <mneptok> why are you making me repeat myself?
[03:45] <mneptok> but i'll go get a copy/paste from the channel prior to your ban where i answered that question
[03:45] <SNuxoll> because no other op I've seen has such a extremist view on it, not LjL, not Seveas, or any others I've seen in #u-o
[03:45] <mneptok> what does that matter?
[03:45] <tritium> SNuxoll: it's not an extremist view.
[03:45] <SNuxoll> YES, it is!
[03:45] <mneptok> 22:31 < mneptok> SNuxoll: my backscroll is filled with "sucks" and "pissed" and assorted crap.
[03:45] <mneptok> your reply....
[03:45] <mneptok> 22:32 < SNuxoll> mneptok: last I checked that wasn't language, and if it was LjL would have yelled at me
[03:45] <tritium> SNuxoll: no, it really isn't
[03:46] <SNuxoll> I don't know where mneptok lives, but here it is pretty much everyday usage for well, sucks, and pissed
[03:46] <tritium> Ubuntu is a popular distribution, with many younger users (especially those who use edubuntu).  It is important to keep foul language out of the channel.
[03:47] <mneptok> are you *really* going to make an issue of my place of residence?
[03:47] <mneptok> really?
[03:47] <mneptok> think about it. be sure you know what you're doing.
[03:47] <SNuxoll> tritium: and hopefully no one under 13 is using #u-o, because there has been more fowl things than 'sucks' and 'pissed' in there today
[03:47] <mneptok> SNuxoll: and if i had seen them ....
[03:48] <tritium> SNuxoll: no, that's the wrong hope.  Hopefully we keep it clean specifically so they CAN be in that channel.
[03:48] <SNuxoll> mneptok: oh, LjL did, and he took care of them, at the same time I was saying 'sucks' and 'pissed'
[03:48] <mneptok> SNuxoll: so there it is.
[03:48] <mneptok> there's your answer.
[03:48] <tritium> SNuxoll: as a member of the community, if your words offended even one person (including an op, mind you), you should kindly refrain.
[03:49] <SNuxoll> I'm not asking much, I just want consistent enforcement and definitions of the ruls
[03:49] <mneptok> SNuxoll: that won't happen with language, as it's subjective.
[03:49] <mneptok> SNuxoll: it would be nice, but in no way possible.
[03:49] <SNuxoll> mneptok: EXACTLY
[03:50] <tritium> You're actually asking for the opposite.  You want _your_ measure of foul to be what applies to you, rather than a consistent one.
[03:50] <SNuxoll> If we aren't going to enforce the rules equally, why have them at all, same with flexible definitions
[03:50] <SNuxoll> tritium: no, I'm not
[03:50] <tritium> Indeed, you are.
[03:50] <SNuxoll> tritium: I'm happy to fit someone's definition of 'fowl' if I know what it is
[03:50] <tritium> mneptok: has told you
[03:51] <mneptok> SNuxoll: "fowl" means "an edible bird"
[03:51] <SNuxoll> but no one has a consistent one in that channel!
[03:51] <mneptok> SNuxoll: what about 繁體中文版
[03:51] <mneptok> is that offensive?
[03:51] <mneptok> probably not to you.
[03:51] <mneptok> but to a Mandarin speaker? highly offensive.
[03:51] <mneptok> language. is. subjective. by. nature.
[03:51] <SNuxoll> it's unfair to the users in there to have varying degrees of what they consider 'fowl'
[03:52] <SNuxoll> no one was taking offense to what I said
[03:52] <mneptok> i did.
[03:52] <mneptok> game over.
[03:53] <SNuxoll> ah, so that's the magic definition there
[03:53] <mneptok> it's the same definition LjL, Seveas, elky, tritium, or any other op.
[03:53] <SNuxoll> no, it's not
[03:53] <mneptok> why are you still arguing?
[03:53] <tritium> SNuxoll: nothing magic about considering mneptok, a live human being, to be someone.  It's just a plain fact.
[03:53] <mneptok> more importantly, why am i?
[03:53] <SNuxoll> I have been using 'sucks' and 'pissed' the entire (almost} year in #u-o
[03:54] <SNuxoll> tritium: no, there is something magic about him, he can get a +o
[03:54] <wolferine> can I get an explaination as to why I am banned in #Ubuntu ?
[03:54] <mneptok> wolferine: tritium told you. your attitude.
[03:54] <SNuxoll> and because of that, he's like a law enforcement officer
[03:54] <wolferine> mneptok, please dont take this out on me
[03:55] <SNuxoll> one cop can't go 'ahh, he's only 20 over', while another says '20 over, I'm gonna pull this guy over'
[03:55] <SNuxoll> that's exactly what is happening
[03:55] <wolferine> as I said previously, I have him/her on /ignore
[03:55] <wolferine> should I remove it ?
[03:55] <mneptok> wolferine: and?
[03:56] <mneptok> wolferine: if you want to discuss your ban, yes.
[03:56] <mneptok> wolferine: it's tritium's ban. that means you have to talk to tritium.
[03:56] <mneptok> SNuxoll: law enforcement is filled with judgement calls.
[03:57] <wolferine> ok
[03:57] <wolferine> removed
[03:57] <wolferine> tritium, can we discuss this now ?
[03:57] <mneptok> SNuxoll: and now my good judgement tells me this is going nowhere. you may part #u-ops on your own and come back in 24 hours to discuss this with me, or be permanently banned. your choice.
[03:58] <mneptok> SNuxoll: and FYI, *anyone* giving Seveas this much cr*p would have been perm-banned by now. so you know.
[03:58] <SNuxoll> mneptok: and FYI, seveas has never freaked out over 'sucks'
[03:58] <SNuxoll> now, goodbye
[03:59] <wolferine> seems s/he isnt here, can someone else help me please ?
[03:59] <tritium> wolferine: what?
[04:00] <wolferine> tritium, can we discuss my ban in #ubuntu ?
[04:00] <tritium> You expect me to be at your attention, when you put me on /ignore?
[04:00] <tritium> Come back tomorrow.
[04:00] <wolferine> is this not a good time?
[04:00] <tritium> Right, I'm going to bed now.
[04:01] <wolferine> do you mind if I discuss this with another op ?
[04:01] <tritium> wolferine: what would you like to discuss?
[04:01] <wolferine> well, the reason for my ban
[04:02] <wolferine> i would like to ask someone to view our 'conversation' and what led up to the ban
[04:02] <tritium> As I tried to explain to you, your arrogant, unappreciative attitude, and your rude behavior.
[04:02] <wolferine> arrogance is not a reason to ban me, is it ?
[04:02] <tritium> When someone offers you help in #ubuntu, or any other channel, you need to remember that we're volunteers.
[04:03] <tritium> wolferine: yes, it is, as per the code of conduct you need to treat people with respect.
[04:03] <wolferine> tritium, I have been assisting in #ubuntu for just over a year, I understand you are a volunteer, as I am as well
[04:03] <tritium> To disrespect people who are trying to help you is quite contrary to that spirit.
[04:03] <wolferine> i think you took my comments a bit too personal, maybe because your tired ?
[04:03] <tritium> wolferine: there are *nice* ways to ask for additional info, or to inform someone that the info they provided isn't what you're looking for
[04:04] <tritium> my tired?
[04:04] <tritium> I don't have a "tired"
[04:04] <wolferine> im sorry, i guess you dont understand irc speak
[04:04] <tritium> wolferine: No, I didn't take them to personally.
[04:04] <wolferine> but if you say the word out loud, im sure you will understand what I am saying
[04:04] <tritium> wolferine: I've been on op for 3 years in #ubuntu, I understand it just fine.
[04:05] <tritium> I also understand !properenglish
[04:05] <wolferine> let me log the conversation we had
[04:05] <wolferine> do you mind if I do that ?
[04:05] <tritium> wolferine: of course not
[04:05] <wolferine> thank you
[04:05] <tritium> The channels are logged.
[04:05] <wolferine> brb
[04:10] <Hobbsee> wolferine: you want another op?
[04:10] <wolferine> doesnt matter to me
[04:10] <wolferine> u offering ?
[04:10] <Hobbsee> depends if you accept whatever i say, or not.
[04:11]  * mneptok runs for the bunker
[04:11] <Hobbsee> mneptok: can also review
[04:11] <mneptok> Hobbsee: i'll trust tritium's judgment.
[04:12] <wolferine> sure Hobbsee, I can do that
[04:12] <mneptok> from what i have read in backscroll, i see no reason not to.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[04:14] <tritium> wolferine: it's your right to have Hobbsee or any other op review.
[04:15] <mneptok> i saw enough to know i didn;t need to keep reading.
[04:16] <Hobbsee> wolferine: what surprises me, if you knew so much, and knew how to use triggers, is why you didn't just google what you wanted to know to begin with.
[04:17] <wolferine> sorry, I had a phone call
[04:17] <wolferine> thanks for letting me know tritium, I just thought I would ask
[04:18] <wolferine> Hobbsee, im not sure what you want me to say, but I did attempt to find a solution, but I find IRC much more of a tool than google in many cases
[04:19] <wolferine> http://www.pastebin.ca/882940
[04:19] <wolferine> that is a post of both sides of the conversation
[04:19] <wolferine> if I happen to have left a line out, im sorry
[04:20] <wolferine> i felt tritium was becoming aggressive towards me, and added him to my /ignore
[04:20] <tritium> wolferine: all you really need to do is treat those trying to help you with a little more courtesy.
[04:20] <wolferine> as I would any other user, who wasnt attempting to assist me, and carried the same attitude
[04:20] <tritium> After all, we're volunteers, and your hostility took me aback.
[04:20] <wolferine> not realizing he was an op
[04:21] <mneptok> wolferine: you do realize that the URL referenced in that factoid tritium triggered *does* answer your question, yes?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> wolferine: you appear to think that it's OK to roast anyone who doesn't answer your question the way you want to, and to do your google search for you?
[04:21] <mneptok> i.e. http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#img2iso
[04:22] <wolferine> tritium, i have learned with over 15 years of being on IRC, helping others for 10 of those years, that its not always the best to take other ppls comments personally
[04:22] <wolferine> sorry, am I discussing this with all of you ?
[04:22] <mneptok> yes, you aksed us to get involved.
[04:22] <wolferine> as I thought that Hobbsee and I were going to discuss?
[04:22] <mneptok> *asked
[04:22] <wolferine> mneptok, i did not ask you to get involved
[04:22] <Hobbsee> wolferine: mneptok is another operator.
[04:22] <wolferine> im just asking for clarification
[04:23] <wolferine> as the three of you are asking me questions/making points
[04:23] <mneptok> what needs clarification?
[04:23] <wolferine> i believe my questions I just asked
[04:24] <Hobbsee> wolferine: so, you did not get the response you desired, although, as mneptok says, it's actually in the factoid.  so you got snarky at the one who had given it to you.  and then you complain about the fact that they acted on that.
[04:24] <tritium> wolferine: sure, that's fine.  Don't take things personally.  But, why not also treat people with some respect?
[04:24] <wolferine> how about we just get to the point
[04:24] <wolferine> why was I banned?
[04:25] <mneptok> another point is that the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct basically forbids saying anything that someone *could* take personally.
[04:25] <wolferine> Hobbsee, do you mind if we take this to pm ?
[04:25] <tritium> wolferine: I've explained
[04:25] <wolferine> or tritium
[04:26] <tritium> I thought you wanted to discuss it here, wolferine.
[04:26] <Hobbsee> wolferine: you were banned due to attacking and being disrespectful to those who had given you an answer.
[04:26] <Hobbsee> apart from that, while doing your attacking, you were stopping others from receiving help, by increasing channel noise, with non-support material.
[04:26] <wolferine> how was I attacking ?
[04:27] <wolferine> Hobbsee, thats like a cop scanning your car for 'something' else that might be wrong in a situation
[04:27] <tritium> wolferine: in the future, why not try something like "Thanks, I appreciate that, but I didn't find what I was looking for there.  Do you have another suggestion?"
[04:27] <wolferine> i cannot defend the fact that for me to prove my point, I need to post chat to the channel
[04:28] <wolferine> tritium, and possibly it might not be a good idea to provoke another user either ?
[04:28] <mneptok> what point? that the URL given to you contained the answer you sought?
[04:28] <tritium> wolferine: yes, you should not have proved me, particularly since I was trying to help
[04:28] <Hobbsee> wolferine: apart from telling him he's going insane...
[04:28] <tritium> provoked*
[04:29] <wolferine> mneptok, im not trying to be rude, but I will just respond to Hobbsee and tritium right now
[04:29] <wolferine> if you want clarification later, I dont mind talking to you later
[04:30] <wolferine> Hobbsee, I felt he missed a post, yet answered it in the same response, which was a bit confusing
[04:30]  * mneptok tootles off for home
[04:30] <tritium> Good night, mneptok.
[04:31] <wolferine> so can I ask this again
[04:31] <wolferine> how was I attacking ?
[04:31] <Hobbsee> i answered that.
[04:31] <Hobbsee> [15:28] <Hobbsee> wolferine: apart from telling him he's going insane...
[04:31] <tritium> wolferine: do you not realize how inappreciative you were?
[04:31] <tritium> And how rude that is?
[04:31] <Hobbsee> that being said, you still need to learn to be respectful.
[04:31] <wolferine> 'losing it'
[04:31] <Hobbsee> answers do not get served to you on a silver platter, and irc is not your personal google search.
[04:32] <wolferine> Hobbsee, what is your point exactly?
[04:32] <wolferine> i dont see having an hour long convo about all this is necessary
[04:32] <tritium> wolferine: I've asked you several questions.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> getting irate because you didn't get the exact answer you wanted, when you chose not to google search, just puts you with a high sense of entitlement.
[04:32] <wolferine> tritium, I have two ppl to answer, so if you dont mind, please be patient
[04:32] <Hobbsee> particularly seeing as the answer actually *was* there, and you didn't appear to notice.
[04:33] <wolferine> i was not 'irate'
[04:33] <tritium> wolferine: hey, you be patient.  I delayed going to bed to be here.
[04:33] <tritium> I could have just as easily addressed this tomorrow, wolferine
[04:33] <Hobbsee> wolferine: and if you think we're only all doing one thing at once, and listening to you, you're dreaming.
[04:33] <wolferine> tritium, I asked you if I could discuss with someone else, so you could leave
[04:33] <wolferine> i have been accomidating
[04:33] <wolferine> what question did I not reply to, tritium?
[04:33] <tritium> wolferine: no, you have been inappreciative, rude, and condescending
[04:33] <tritium> wolferine: do you not realize how inappreciative you were?
[04:33] <tritium> That's one...
[04:34] <wolferine> i dont feel I have been rude
[04:34] <Hobbsee> wolferine: come back in 24 hours.
[04:34] <tritium> wolferine: sure, that's fine.  Don't take things personally.  But, why not also treat people with some respect?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> you won't get any further today.
[04:34] <wolferine> Hobbsee, why ?
[04:34] <tritium> That's another.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> you're proving that you still don't treat people with respect.
[04:34] <wolferine> what?
[04:34] <wolferine> i have been considerate and respectful
[04:34] <wolferine> I have attempted to answer both of your questions
[04:34] <tritium> Not to me, you haven't.
[04:35] <tritium> In what way is telling me I'm losing it, after offering you assistance, considerate or respectful?
[04:35] <wolferine> tritium, and since im having to admit I am being disrespectful, can you admit you were provoking me as well then, which is in a sense, disrespectful as well
[04:36] <wolferine> so we both were disrespecting each other
[04:36] <tritium> wolferine: you're "having" to admit?  You do not recognize it to be so?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> wolferine: i don't call giving you a factoid answer, which answered your question, being provoking.
[04:36] <wolferine> and we both want to help in the channel
[04:36]  * Hobbsee doesn't think we're going to get any further with this anytime soon
[04:36] <wolferine> so why not remove the ban, and we can move past all this?
[04:36] <tritium> Agreed.
[06:28] <bladezor> The automatic test fails for #ubuntu-read-topic
[06:28] <bladezor> I changed my port :\
[06:28] <bladezor> Can I get tested here?
[07:15] <stdin> bladezor: did you type "test me" in the channel?
[07:15] <bladezor> yes
[07:16] <bladezor> It just disconnects me and it makes me rejoin that channel
[07:16] <bladezor> I'll try again, sec
[07:17] <bladezor> Ok it didn't disconnect this time
[07:17] <bladezor> I guess it worked
[07:20] <bladezor> meh well it's not letting me join , floodbot keeps...flooding me with "Sorry, you'll have to wait a little longer still, we are experiencing problems... hold tight! You will be allowed back in shortly."
[07:21] <stdin> not sure why it's doing that, seems to be stuck somehow
[07:22] <stdin> you'll have to wait for an #ubuntu op to read this and unban you then
[07:22] <bladezor> ok
[07:24] <Hobbsee> bladezor: removed, thanks for your patience
[07:24] <bladezor> Thanks
[07:27] <Hobbsee> stdin: it'll be the same version as an already existing version in the ubuntu archive
[07:27] <stdin> Hobbsee: either that or the same version for another release
[07:28] <Hobbsee> it would use the orig tarball if that were the case.
[07:28] <Hobbsee> this is likely a repack, under the same name, as what's already there, or in the ubuntu archive
[08:23] <ikonia> is there a way to see who keeps msging the bot and redirecting it to me in a pm ?
[08:25] <stdin> ikonia: the bot would say "<nick> wants you to know: ..."
[08:28] <ikonia> oooh thats odd
[08:28] <ikonia> I wonder if Seveas is playing a trick ;)
[08:29] <stdin> ubotu: !test > ikonia  (it should have my nick in the message)
[08:29] <ikonia> lets see
[08:29] <ikonia> yup, got it from you
[08:29] <ikonia> wish I still had the other window open, I may have missed the name
[08:30] <ikonia> thank you stdin
[09:40] <Seeker`> woo, no0tic spam
[10:53] <jussi01> Doh, pricey isnt around
[13:01] <Pici> !test
[13:01] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:16] <usuario__> oi
[13:16] <usuario__> o que é isso?
[13:24] <PriceChild> LjL, where's fb2?
[13:26] <nalioth> good questions
[13:26] <jussi01> PriceChild: ping
[13:26] <jussi01> or even pong
[13:27]  * Pici thinks he knows what this is about.
[13:27] <Pici> Although I didnt realize it until yesterday eitehr.
[13:27] <PriceChild> Hey jussi01
[13:27] <jussi01> PriceChild: youasked me to ping you?
[13:27] <PriceChild> jussi01, come to #pricechild please :)
[13:29] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahh, gotch
[13:29] <jussi01> a
[13:29] <PriceChild> and all was well in the world :)
[13:29] <jussi01> thank you :)
[13:29] <PriceChild> No problem.
[13:31]  * jussi01 now has to figure out this network problem with the new server... grrr
[13:31] <PriceChild> jussi01, are you sure its plugged in?
[13:31]  * PriceChild ducks
[13:31] <jussi01> PriceChild: lol yeah
[13:32] <PriceChild> jussi01, have you tried turning it on and off again?
[13:32] <jussi01> PriceChild: !!!
[13:32] <jussi01> too much it crowd i can see
[13:32] <PriceChild> I don't know anything more sorry, that's all the IT Crowd gave me.
[13:32] <jussi01> :P
[13:32] <PriceChild> its funny because its trueeeee!
[13:32] <jussi01> so true
[13:33] <Pici> I've never seen the IT crowd, but it sounds just like when I was doing Windows support.
[13:33] <jussi01> Pici: go watch, increadibly funny
[13:33] <PriceChild> Pici, the guy eventually builds a machine, to answer the phone for him and then say those things, so he doesn't have to.
[13:34] <jussi01> so anyone know what to do after plugging said usb network device in and  modprobing module needed?
[13:34] <ikonia> PriceChild: the auto responder tape is genius
[13:35] <jussi01> hehe ikonia yes it is!
[13:35] <PriceChild> jussi01, ifconfig up? 8-)
[13:36] <jussi01> PriceChild: I dont think its listed in the interfaces file...
[13:36] <PriceChild> jussi01, well then its not recognised as a network device... check dmesg or something about the time you probed the module.
[13:37] <PriceChild> This may be the worst advice ever... don't blame me if i'm wrong :)
[13:37] <PriceChild> the only usb network device i've ever used is an rt2570 wireless dongle and it works perfectly
[13:49] <jpatrick> Pici: pong
[13:50]  * jpatrick reads up
[13:51] <Pici> jpatrick: nah, forget about it.
[13:51] <Pici> jpatrick: was regarding a #kubuntu ban and I wasnt sure who was around.
[13:52] <jpatrick> ah right, I was sleeping :)
[13:56] <Mez> I seem to have lost all the channels I loitered in
[13:58] <jpatrick> hmm
[13:58] <jpatrick> do you have +u set?
[13:58] <PriceChild> Mez, where did you leave them?
[13:58] <Mez> PriceChild, /dev/null
[13:58] <Mez> I had to reset the config on my proxy
[13:58] <Mez> and I can't remember what all the channels I lurked in were
[13:59] <PriceChild> obviously weren't very important then
[13:59] <nalioth> if you can't remember, are they worth loitering in?
[14:00] <Mez> nalioth, yes, because I generally have to go for them for reference, or cause I'm affiliated somehow and need to give ingo
[14:00] <Mez> info *
[14:00] <Mez> I actually stripped down my list of joined channels quite a lot not so long ago
[14:00] <Pici> You're affiliated with things, but you dont know what they are?
[14:00] <Mez> Pici, not neccesarily directly affiliated ...
[14:00] <Mez> hmm
[14:00] <Mez> for example, I forgot to rejoin #kde-devel
[14:01] <Mez> ahah!
[14:01] <Mez> LOGS
[14:01]  * Pici shakes head
[14:07] <Mez> found them all
[14:21] <jpatrick> Mez: I recommend rsync-ing configs before rm-ing them :)
[14:21] <Mez> jpatrick, they had been corrupted by segfaults ;)
[14:22] <jpatrick> aha
[14:45] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (egoleo)
[15:00] <LjL> Seveas, before i kill a #bash user, please what was that command that you could use to pipe something back into the same file you got it from? it was you who mentioned it
[15:00] <Pici> heh, what did the #bash person suggest?
[15:01] <LjL> Pici: they suggested it was impossible, but anyway nevermind them
[15:19] <jdong> LjL: sponge
[15:19] <jdong> LjL: in moreutils IIRC
[15:19] <jussi01> any irssi users here? how does one move a channel back to its original position after an accidental /wc ?
[15:19] <Pici> wow, thats a real command.
[15:19]  * LjL hugs jdong
[15:19] <jdong> :)
[15:19] <jdong> Pici: if you think that's weird, look at some of the other things in moreutils :)
[15:19] <Pici> jdong: thanks too, I've been wasting time gooling for an answer.
[15:20] <nalioth> jussi01: /window move [number]
[15:20] <nalioth> jussi01: "any irssi users here?" indeed
[15:20] <Pici> s/gooling/googling/ | sponge pici
[15:20] <jussi01> nalioth: hehe, thought that might entertain :P
[15:32] <LjL> security update for *audacity*?
[15:33] <LjL> now how can a sound editor have a secvuln
[15:33] <no0tic> LjL, ask it to emgent..
[15:33] <LjL> gah
[15:33] <Pici> audacious!
[15:33]  * Pici chuckles at his lame joke
[15:33] <LjL> Fix insecure directory creation in /tmp by moving
[15:33] <LjL>     the directory to the users home directory
[15:33] <LjL> eh?
[15:34] <LjL>  /tmp is insecure so you don't use it?
[15:34] <LjL> we might as well stop using /usr someday :)
[15:34] <jpatrick> LjL: s*** happens
[15:36] <LjL> "Audacity 1.3.2 creates a temporary directory with a predictable name without checking for previous existence of that directory"
[15:36] <LjL> ... so you fix it by making it check for previous existence and using a randomized name...?
[15:37] <Pici> Thats what I would do...
[15:37] <Pici> Sounds like its only a security problem on multi-user systems.
[15:37] <LjL> sure, but calling it a security problem is fine
[15:38] <LjL> fixing it by putting temp files in the user's home... that sounds less sane to me
[15:39] <no0tic> LjL, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gentoo/+source/audacity/+bug/173153/comments/3
[15:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173153 in audacity "[CVE-2007-6061] Denial of service and deletion of an arbitrary directory tree via symlink attack" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:41] <LjL> no0tic: ?
[15:41] <no0tic> LjL, emgent patched audacity
[15:42] <LjL> no0tic: yes i know
[15:42] <LjL> apt-listchanges shows that ;)
[15:42] <no0tic> :)
[15:42] <LjL> uhm, this thing to trim the irc logs of spurious QUITs takes an incredibly long while...
[15:42] <LjL> but it did shrink a logfile of 16megs into 4megs
[16:31] <LjL> m0nk coming here for the ban from -offtopic i gave him yesterday
[16:32] <LjL> well, today
[17:11] <Mace-Windu> o.o
[17:11] <Mace-Windu> err im banned and i dont know why?
[17:12] <Mace-Windu> Anyway I just have 1 question
[17:12] <Mace-Windu> >->
[17:12] <Mace-Windu> Can You run a server from the desktop version of Ubuntu
[17:13] <Mace-Windu> or do you specifically need the server version
[17:13] <jpatrick> you can run it
[17:13] <Mace-Windu> Awesome thanks
[17:13] <Mace-Windu> Also Idk why im bannz0red but yah
[17:14] <Mace-Windu> anyway thanks
[17:16] <PriceChild> Hi Ttech, how can I help?
[17:17] <Ttech> 0.o
[17:17] <Ttech> Why am I here.
[17:17] <Ttech> oops
[17:17] <Ttech> I have the auto channel join thing on.. LOL
[17:17] <Ttech> Sorry. No question.
[17:17] <Ttech> Bye...
[17:55] <ubotu> Kamakazi called the ops in #ubuntu-proxy-users ()
[18:01] <Seveas> LjL, sponge
[18:08] <Mace-Windu> Err yah... Can Ubuntu and Windows be ran on the same machine?
[18:08] <PriceChild> Mace-Windu, this channel is not for support.
[18:09] <Mace-Windu> Yah well im banned from #ubuntu for god knows why
[18:09] <PriceChild> well maybe you should try and get that fixed?
[18:09] <Mace-Windu> Can you help me fix that?
[18:09] <Mace-Windu> :p
[18:10] <PriceChild> LjL, *ping*
[18:10] <PriceChild> Mace-Windu, ever use a different nick on irc?
[18:11] <Mace-Windu> is it a nick ban? i thought it was an addy ban
[18:11] <Star-Wars> >_>
[18:11] <PriceChild> Star-Wars, ever run a bot on this host?
[18:11] <Star-Wars> No.
[18:11] <Star-Wars> ive never connected to this server before
[18:11] <Star-Wars> ive had no reason to.
[18:12] <Star-Wars> Well I connect about an hour ago
[18:12] <Star-Wars> but that was for a question.
[18:12] <PriceChild> ok, please be patient Star-Wars.
[18:12] <Star-Wars> np
[18:22] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Martian said: !no, u is <reply> Unless you're Dutch, Flemish, Afrikaans or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.
[18:22] <Star-Wars> NoProblem?
[18:22] <Star-Wars> Sorry? v_v
[18:23] <Star-Wars> Welcome.
[18:23] <Martian> Out of curiousity how does it look when Ubotu forwards a request?
[18:23] <Star-Wars> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Martian said: !no, u is <reply> Unless you're Dutch, Flemish, Afrikaans or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.
[18:23] <Star-Wars> Like that.
[18:23] <Martian> Thanks.
[18:23] <Star-Wars> np
[18:24] <Martian> In Afrikaans U is the formal form of You. That's why I changed it to include Afrikaans.
[18:24] <Star-Wars> xD
[18:25] <Star-Wars> You did your research]
[18:46] <Star-Wars> >_>
[18:47] <Tm_T> Star-Wars: yup
[18:48] <Star-Wars> I dont get it...
[18:49] <Tm_T> Star-Wars: the person involved with your issue seems not to be active currently, please wait and he'll help you soon :)
[18:50] <Star-Wars> ok
[18:50] <Tm_T> Star-Wars: I don't feel I should close him out of it by doing his "job" so sorry I can't help more
[18:50] <Star-Wars> is ok
[18:51]  * Star-Wars spanks PriceChild
[18:51] <Tm_T> haha
[18:51] <Star-Wars> PriceChild isn't here.
[18:52] <Star-Wars> xD that dang peer got to him.
[18:52] <Star-Wars> He seems to get to alot of people ;p
[18:53] <Star-Wars> So did the owner of this net write hyper himself?
[18:53] <Star-Wars> Cuz Most nets use Unreal
[19:04] <Seveas> Star-Wars, do you have an id on selbst-schuld.3-a.net?
[19:05] <Star-Wars> Huh?
[19:05] <Star-Wars> no
[19:05] <Star-Wars> Ive only ever used this internet
[19:05] <Star-Wars> and I have 1 server that im on
[19:05] <Star-Wars> Scrollrack. A Yugioh server
[19:06] <Star-Wars> and this. now i guess
[19:08] <Seveas> Star-Wars, how often does your provider change IP's, are they fairly static or really dynamic?
[19:09] <Star-Wars> Fairly static
[19:09] <Star-Wars> I recently gave myself a static ip
[19:09] <Star-Wars> from PortForward.com
[19:09] <Star-Wars> They showed me how
[19:09] <Star-Wars> I need a Static Ip to run a Windows based server and INternet radio
[19:10] <Star-Wars> But originally my isp allocates me a Dynamic
[19:10] <Seveas> Star-Wars, I meant the isp ip
[19:10] <Seveas> how often does that change?
[19:10] <Star-Wars> Err the one from
[19:10] <Star-Wars> the cmd promp?
[19:11] <Star-Wars> Which ip
[19:11] <Seveas> the external one you see at the botton on portforward.com
[19:11] <Star-Wars> The one i get from $ip
[19:11] <Star-Wars> or
[19:11] <Star-Wars> are u talking about thise one //echo $ip
[19:11] <Star-Wars> or the cmd one
[19:12] <Seveas> the external one you see at the botton on portforward.com <--------
[19:12] <Star-Wars> Lemme go check
[19:12] <Star-Wars> Oh thats the one i get from $ip
[19:12] <Star-Wars> I unno I dont check it often
[19:13] <Star-Wars> Hasnt changed recently
[19:13] <Star-Wars> from What i know
[19:13] <Seveas> if it didn't change in the past 2 weeks, you will not be unbanned
[19:14] <Star-Wars> I dont know I havent check it within the past 2 weeks
[19:14] <Star-Wars> Can you just answer my question? I only have 1
[19:14] <Seveas> no
[19:15] <Star-Wars> grrfles
[19:15] <Seveas> there was some pretty serious abuse from your IP address in the past 2 weeks
[19:15] <Seveas> we don't appreciate that
[19:15] <Star-Wars> O.O
[19:15] <Star-Wars> on here?
[19:15] <Seveas> yes
[19:16] <Star-Wars> I unno My isp supoosedly gives me a dynamic one
[19:16] <Star-Wars> but like i said
[19:16] <Star-Wars> I just gave myself a static ip
[19:17] <Star-Wars> is there a way to check what your ip was 2 weeks ago?
[19:18] <nalioth> just let him in to #ubuntu already
[19:19] <Star-Wars> Cant u give me a +e?
[19:19] <Star-Wars> My name?
[19:19] <Star-Wars> Giving my 1` single nick wouldnt give my whole ip
[19:19] <Star-Wars> an except into the room
[19:19] <Star-Wars> So youd be keeping yourself protected
[19:20] <nalioth> Star-Wars: go.
[19:20] <Star-Wars> and helping me @ the same time
[19:21] <nalioth> Star-Wars: we have a no idling policy here    :)
[19:21] <Star-Wars> Ok
[19:21] <Star-Wars> ty
[21:20] <keescook> hi!  while the ubuntu security team is going to be using #ubuntu-hardened for IRC discussions, I'd like to see if #ubuntu-security can be put under our control so we can direct people to the right place.  What do you folks recommend?
[21:21] <PriceChild> nalioth, can you sort this out please?
[21:22] <PriceChild> keescook, should be sorted asap :)
[21:22] <nalioth> sorted?
[21:22]  * nalioth looks at his work bench
[21:22] <Tm_T> nalioth: a before c
[21:22] <ompaul> nalioth, organise what keescook asked for :)
[21:22] <PriceChild> use the hammer!
[21:23] <ompaul> nalioth, with the wrench that PriceChild knows very ikkle
[21:23] <ompaul> :)
[21:23]  * ompaul buys PriceChild an icecream
[21:23] <nalioth> keescook: can you join me at the scene of the crime?
[21:24] <keescook> nalioth: sure, where?
[21:24] <ompaul> nalioth, I suggest just close, and forward
[21:56] <Seeker`> :O ITS GARY!
[21:56] <nalioth> Seeker`: is it you?
[21:57] <Seeker`> it me!
[22:00] <nalioth> Seeker`: i don't believe you
[22:00] <nalioth> i say you're an imposter.
[22:00] <Seeker`> nalioth: what dont you believe me about?
[22:01] <nalioth> Seeker`: have you talked to nickserv today?
[22:01] <Seeker`> maybe earlier
[22:02] <nalioth> i don't believe it
[22:02] <nalioth> hi Seeker`!
[22:02] <Seeker`> and again just now
[22:02] <nalioth> now i believe it's you.
[22:02] <Seeker`> yay!
[22:02] <Seeker`> :(
[22:02] <Seeker`> chanserv hates me :(
[22:03] <Tm_T> can I hate you too? ;)
[22:03] <Seeker`> i would prefer it if you didn't
[22:03] <Seeker`> you had to devoice me 3 times? just to make sure you did it properly
[22:04] <Seeker`> yay!
[22:04] <Tm_T> Seeker`: no, just to make it more clear
[22:04] <Seeker`> heh
[22:13] <ompaul> Seeker`, is that you?
[22:14] <Seeker`> I think so
[22:14] <ompaul> subtly like a bull in a china shop or a brick though a plate glass window
[22:14] <Seeker`> but I'm not too sure now. I was last time I checked
[22:24] <ubotu> syntaxerror55 called the ops in #ubuntu (link2126)
[22:24] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[22:24] <jpatrick> guys..
[22:24] <Pici> jpatrick...
[22:25] <jpatrick> Pici: I was watching #ubuntu at the time
[22:25] <Pici> oh ;)
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Have you guys added a feature to temporarily suppress !ops or was ubotu just down?
[22:28] <m0nk> hey guys could i get my ban to ubuntu-offtopic lifted please?
[22:28] <LjL> !repeat | Jordan_U
[22:28] <PriceChild> Jordan_U, it had already been called
[22:28] <ubotu> Jordan_U: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:28] <LjL> !repeat | Jordan_U
[22:28] <Pici> The bot knows it had just been called ;)
[22:28] <LjL> hi m0nk, can you remind me why you were banned?
[22:29] <jpatrick> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54141/
[22:30] <m0nk> ...shocksites...im usually pretty good about not violating the cOc but i was just out of my mind yesterday for whatever reason man
[22:30] <LjL> m0nk: a shocksite that tried to crash your computer as well
[22:30] <m0nk> LjL: that too....
[22:30] <m0nk> i applogize
[22:30] <nalioth> LjL: was it a good one?
[22:30] <nalioth> no, don't paste it in here  :0
[22:31] <LjL> nalioth: define good
[22:31] <PriceChild> vorian, just imagine if we let ck out.
[22:31] <vorian> lol
[22:31] <nalioth> LjL: you know, the one that lets the magic smoke out of your box
[22:31] <vorian> PriceChild: at least he can restrain himself
[22:32] <vorian> sometimes
[22:32] <vorian> :)
[22:32] <LjL> nalioth: eh... no, i do not know. and i'm not sure that's a bad thing either
[22:34] <m0nk> it was a site i used to use when i was younger on my friends...it doesnt usually crash browsers though
[22:34] <m0nk> i know with firefox if you have the mplayer plugin to handle media though...it will get nasty
[22:35] <LjL> well it's what intended to do, so no surprise there
[22:37] <m0nk> im watching freedom downtime...its pretty interesting:)
[22:37] <nalioth> this is not a social channel
[22:37] <m0nk> sorry:|
[22:38] <LjL> m0nk, i suggest you come back in a couple of days. perhaps some of you guys in -ot don't realize that we aren't *always* light-hearted when we give !o4o and stuff.
[22:38] <LjL> !o4o
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[22:38] <LjL> now, that was o4o *and* malicious
[22:38] <LjL> you really should have thought about it
[22:38] <Seveas> I'd say come back in a year
[22:39] <Seveas> that's what I did to some people who pasted that site
[22:39] <m0nk> i feel like the little kid who got grounded on christmas eve...but all right
[22:39] <LjL> m0nk, it didn't seem like such a big deal just because nobody complained about it
[22:39] <nalioth> you're lucky you didn't get klined
[22:39] <LjL> it took me a while to realize what it was
[22:39] <LjL> (since i'm not an expert like seveas, and it didn't come with the http:// so i didn't click right away)
[22:40] <LjL> imagine if someone *did* have their speakers on (it was night in europe and i guess late evening in america)
[22:40] <m0nk> LjL: yea, i understand i will be back in a couple days i understand that was a huge violation
[22:40] <m0nk> anyway take it easy guys
[22:40] <LjL> or just well was a young fellow *not* of the kind of young fellows who usually hang around in -ot
[22:42] <LjL> well at least he gets it
[22:42] <LjL> could have got it earlier
[23:14] <PriceChild> LjL, what'd you mean about how easy it was to see who was messing with chanserv?
[23:15] <LjL> PriceChild: i never said anything of the sort, you imagined it
[23:20] <PriceChild> Hey Exteris, how can I help?
[23:21] <Exteris> i have no idea i think xchat screwed up with the channel list
[23:21] <mc44> Seveas forwarded him
[23:21] <Seveas> Exteris, no, you need to change our quit message from 'Sick Fuckers' to something else
[23:22] <Exteris> Seveas, were you offended by that?
[23:22] <Seveas> Exteris, it goes against our guidelines
[23:23] <Exteris> i changed it
[23:23] <Exteris> it's OMG now
[23:23] <Seveas> cool, forward removed
[23:24] <LjL> omg
[23:24] <Exteris> ty
[23:24] <LjL> Seveas: uhm, he should fix his part message, it's off by one now
[23:24] <Seveas> hehehe
[23:33] <LjL> cute, i freed up 800mb by cutting redundant QUIT and NICK lines from the logs.
[23:33] <LjL> and it's not even finished yet
[23:35] <Pici> Its still going?!
[23:36]  * nalioth uses bzip2 on his logs
[23:36] <Seeker`> LjL: How big are your log files?
[23:36] <nalioth> bgrep can look through them in that state
[23:36] <LjL> Seeker`: they were 2 gigs and some
[23:37] <Seeker`> ouch