[00:18] <ScottK> lamont: Is there a particular reason why your postfix 2.5.0-1 package has a versioned depends on libdb4.6 and your 2.4.6-5 version doesn't?
[00:21] <lamont> because a newer libdb4.6 hit that added the versioned-dep, I expect...
[00:21] <lamont> that is, /me blames dpkg-shlibs
[00:22] <ScottK> lamont: It'd be highly convenient for backporting if it weren't there.
[00:22] <lamont> is it a build-dep, or a dep?
[00:22] <lamont> the build-dep is on libdb-dev, and needs to be versioned
[00:23] <lamont>       gutsy*)           BP="gutsy1"
[00:23] <lamont>                         sed -i '/^Build-Dep/s/libdb-dev (>=4.6.19-1)/libdb4.5-dev/g' debian/control
[00:23] <lamont>                         ;;
[00:23] <lamont> it's automatic, after all... :-)
[00:23] <ScottK> Does it need to be 4.6 or 4.6.19?
[00:23] <ScottK> I understand 4.6
[00:28] <ScottK> Dear launchpad, not serving web pages right now is not convenient for me.  Please get back to work.
[03:12] <jackfusion> Hi all
[03:12] <jackfusion> how is every one doing in here?
[03:29] <jackfusion> When install ubuntu server at the end when it ejects the cd and you hit back then select additional packages to install and it asks for the cd.  I have the seerver disk in and hit enter but it keeps asking me for the cd why?  I have tried changing the cd with the desktop install cd as well.
[04:07] <jackfusion> Is any one here to help
[04:07] <jackfusion> /exit
[08:34] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <coNP[uni]> moin kraut
[08:42] <kraut> moin coNP[uni]
[12:09] <mok0> Hm. Why can't I send mail to myself via smart server?
[12:29] <_ruben> mok0: what is 'myself' in this case? your own username? your own (internet) email adres? user@localhost?
[12:30] <mok0> Heh
[12:31] <mok0> I just want to relay all mail to a smart host
[12:32] <mok0> so, if I send to "mok" on the local machine, it get's relayed to our domains central mailserver
[12:35] <_ruben> mok0: im guessing your local mta (which delivers it to the smarthost) adds a 'bogus' domain to the username to create an email address (bogus being none, localhost, etc) .. does the mail get lost? bounced?
[12:36] <mok0> It gets lost. I am using the default postfix setup. I just added "relayhost" to main.cf
[12:37] <mok0> From the log I can see that the mail is delivered to procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
[12:39] <_ruben> do you have access to the logs of the smarthost?
[12:39] <mok0> yes
[12:40] <_ruben> does it show anything odd?
[12:41] <mok0> The log on my machine shows something odd. It looks like the postfix master crashes and gets started again
[12:42] <_ruben> my postfix experience is rather limited .. i do use it on some of our suse boxes but those are configured with yast .. our main mailservers run qmail
[12:43] <mok0> Same here. Main mail server runs sendmail. I just want to configure all workstations to forward local mail to the main mailserver. For scripts etc.
[12:43] <_ruben> sendmail?! gross
[12:43] <mok0> I thought it would be quick and easy to configure postfix to do that
[12:44] <_ruben> it should be rather trivial indeed
[12:44] <mok0> I think I am just missing a setting in the config file
[12:46] <Kigh> mok0: you may take a look on "esmtp", a small replacement for sendmail, forwarding mail to a smarthost. (with smtp auth)
[12:46] <Kigh> configuring postfix for that job is horrible
[12:46] <mok0> Kigh: you mean, instead of postfix?
[12:47] <Kigh> yes. replacement
[12:47] <mok0> Kigh: thanks, I will
[12:48] <_ruben> our postfix configs look rather trivial, then again, like i said, those were generated by yast, not by hand
[12:55] <mok0> I found a recipe for doing what I want. Now I can see that my box forwards the mail to the mail-server, which looks at it, and tries to send it back to my box :-)
[12:56] <mok0> So I have to get my box to not put it's own hostname in the forwarding mail address
[12:59] <_ruben> mok0: appears to be myhostname and/or mydestination directives, just a guess tho
[13:02] <mok0> It works now!
[13:02] <mok0> I just needed a very simple main.cf file
[13:08] <_ruben> ;)
[13:08] <mok0>    Thanks for your help, guys
[15:23] <spiekey> hi
[15:24] <spiekey> i would like to use ubuntu as a pdc (samba) and i am looking for the offline/online profile feature.
[15:24] <spiekey> any idea what this is called?
[16:01] <ScottK> soren: libtree-perl is currently sitting with one advocate (me) in REVU.  It might be useful to get it uploaded and into the NEW queue so it'll be built if/when ebox is ready to go.
[16:01] <soren> I can take a look, I guess.
[16:02] <ScottK> Just a thought.  Ebox is your baby, so ...
[16:12] <soren> Hm... I wonder what happens if I just generate the .changes and leave Javi's signature on the .dsc. It should work, I've just never done that.
[16:16] <ScottK> soren: Yes.  It should work. lamont did that one one of my uploads.
[16:17] <lamont> soren: the changes file has to be signed by someone in the right keyring, and the hashes of the rest of the files have to match reality.
[16:17] <lamont> (IOW, who cares who signed the .dsc??)
[16:17] <lamont> and the answer, of course is: whoever signed the .changes.
[16:17] <soren> lamont: Right. I've just never sponsored stuff this way. It's always been debdiffs or something.
[16:18] <lamont> soren: depending on the person, I either rebuild it completely from source after diffing, or just smack it through.
[16:18] <lamont> and in the middle there is "unpack, compare, testbuild, resign their .changes, upload"
[16:19] <lamont> I'm pretty sure that slangasek is the only one I've ever done the "just smack it through" for.
[16:19] <soren> lamont: Heh :)
[16:20] <lamont> not sure how changes==you, dsc==him affects karma though.
[16:20] <soren> soyuz doesn't give karma anyway.
[16:21] <soren> I doubt that's any different if dsc and changes are signed by different people :)
[16:21] <soren> Ah, of course there's the lp-fix-bugs magic..
[16:21] <lamont> ah, ok
[16:21] <soren> Oh, but that's assigned to the janitor.
[16:21] <soren> So, no dice.
[16:21] <soren> er.. karma.
[20:51] <mathiaz> For those interested, server team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes
[20:51] <faulkes-> already waiting for it
[20:55] <zul> mathiaz: im there baby!
[22:44] <ScottK2> mathiaz: Action complete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap?action=show#head-a23aaa04392811132acde356dbc37c5d64a0b85d
[22:53] <faulkes-> well, that was an interesting introduction to the server team meeting
[22:54] <faulkes-> seems I have much more reading to do to acquaint myself with more of the details and then ask some appropriate questions
[22:55] <faulkes-> thanks for letting me sit in on it
[22:55] <ScottK> faulkes-: You're welcome to ask questions any time here too.
[22:56] <faulkes-> yes, that is what I meant
[23:18] <nxvl_work> ScottK: i'm already working on jabberd2
[23:18] <nxvl_work> ScottK: i only need to check it builds or do i need to test the package?