[00:00] <pine> and then reinstall
[00:00] <danand> Stepa1 - do you have SATA disks??
[00:00] <pine> sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[00:00] <Stepa1> danand: yes
[00:00] <nemilar> danand: hda is for pata
[00:00] <nemilar> Stepa1: if your drive is SATA then it won't be /dev/hda
[00:00] <danand> Stepa1 - use sda1
[00:00] <void^> Sergo21: ./azureus to run it from the current directory.
[00:00] <Stepa1> hmm, that might me my prob
[00:00] <b4l74z4r> i installed 7.10 thru wubi and its working fine, but i'm a bit distressed that it decided on its own how much space to give to /, home and swap, i gave it 10gb total, and it gave / 7.3gb, swap 953mb which left only 938.7mb for home :(
[00:00] <Josspyker_> mutv: google for it. i think they have to fix the bug first
[00:00] <bastid_raZor> Sergo21; if you installed an application outside of the repo's then it is located noramally in /usr/local/bin/ .. go there and see if azureus is there then ./azureus
[00:00] <Sergo21> void^, ok, but how to remove the old files of azureus downloaded from ubuntu repo?:)
[00:01] <unop> Stepa1, by default hda1 is already used (and mounted) by ubuntu - you are probably trying to mount the wrong device
[00:01] <Stepa1> still have same problem
[00:01] <bastid_raZor> Sergo21; sudo apt-get remove azureus
[00:01] <void^> Sergo21: apt-get autoremove azureus
[00:01] <nemilar> Stepa1: you have to sudo
[00:01] <DPic> when trying to install ubuntu on my PS# i keep getting the error: "an error was returned after trying to install the kernel and the target system. "
[00:01] <pine> if it removed more stuff like gdm' and 'ubuntu-desktop, then now do
[00:01] <mutv> josspyker, somebody put on the ubuntu forum that they had this problem but nobody has offered a solution yet
[00:01] <mrpockets> WOOH
[00:01] <pine> sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[00:01] <mrpockets> there we are
[00:02] <nickrud> Stepa1: put the contents of /etc/fstab and the output of   sudo fdisk -l   on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , once we see what you have ...
[00:02] <danand> stepa - sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ??
[00:02] <Logan428> Pine: Still no music
[00:02] <ppibburr> stepha1: fdisk -l
[00:02] <ppibburr> see your disks
[00:02] <Josspyker_> mutv: instead of using ntwm,use rutils, maybe there are wpa issues
[00:03] <mutv> josspyker, not to be annoying but how would I go about doing that?
[00:03] <pine> Logan ok now try this:  sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant alsa-source
[00:03] <Stepa1> I tried the sda, it gave me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53995/
[00:03] <DPic> I can't get Ubuntu to install on my PS3
[00:03] <khussein> ppibburr: update-java-alternatives -l
[00:03] <Stargazer> I can't view or hear pandora online music radio, what do i do ?
[00:04] <nemilar> Stepa1: what's the output of 'file -s /dev/sda1' ?
[00:04] <unop> Stepa1, it looks like your disk (sda1) was unmounted improperly
[00:04] <linchapulin> Logan428: what does lsmod show in a terminal?
[00:04] <ppibburr> stepha1: windows shut down properly?
[00:04] <Stepa1> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53996/
[00:05] <b4l74z4r> rhythmbox doesn't seem to update the song/track info when i stream for example www.DI.fm, any ideas?
[00:05] <Logan428> Pine: Done
[00:05] <nickrud> Stepa1: yes, but see what the others are saying about bad windows shutdown
[00:05] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with DVD playback? I hear audio, but no voices!
[00:05] <splitbit> unop, mavi- : Gnome ssh tunnel manager is really nice ! Thank you !
[00:05] <nemilar> Stepa1: do you still have windows installed?  try booting into windows and letting it fix the drive.
[00:06] <ppibburr> stepha1: might just have to boot it and shutdown, properly tho
[00:06] <pine> ok now do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[00:06] <Stepa1> nickrud, nemilar, I cant log into windows.  I think it has a virus
[00:06] <nemilar> HorizonXP: say what now
[00:06] <unop> nemilar, he could run ntfsfix too - but its probably better to let windows do it
[00:06] <pine> Answer yes (for ISA-PNP - recommended by package maintainers),
[00:06] <nemilar> Stepa1: well in that case, what unop said - ntfsfix
[00:06] <Logan428> sudo: dpkg_reconfigure: command not found
[00:06] <pine> then yes again (for debugging - recommended by package maintainers)
[00:06] <ppibburr> stepha1: dont login, just reboot
[00:07] <nickrud> Stepa1: hm, ntfsfix , I'll join the crowd :)
[00:07] <ppibburr> back to linux
[00:07] <DPic> can somebody help me with my ps3 issues?
[00:07] <Logan428> Pine: OOps, that was me :)
[00:07] <laughzilla> hi :)  anyone know how to convert FLAC to ipod  in ubuntu 7.10  ?
[00:07] <HorizonXP> nemilar: i hear sound and music, but not voices when I play DVDs
[00:07] <mutv> josspyker_, hey I have to go, but thanks for the help, I'll get on it brb
[00:07] <HorizonXP> nemilar: it's like a channel is missing
[00:07] <bod_> boo (test, please tell me if you cane read this)
[00:07] <nemilar> HorizonXP: yeah, sounds like it
[00:07] <pine> answer yes there
[00:07] <Psilocyde> bod yes
[00:07] <nemilar> HorizonXP: try a different player (vlc, mplayer, etc) and see what that does
[00:07] <DPic> laughzilla: use rockbox :)
[00:07] <Stepa1> nemilar: do i put ntfsfix in terminal ?
[00:07] <pine> and then u must choose drivers
[00:07] <nownot_> can someone look here and tell me why firewall is blocking samba http://pastebin.ca/881705
[00:08] <HorizonXP> nemilar: totem-xine is the only player that works :(
[00:08] <laughzilla> dpic - thanks ... is that installable via synaptic ??
[00:08] <unop> Stepa1, you'll need to do this - sudo sh -c "apt-get install ntfsprogs; ntfsfix /dev/sda1"
[00:08] <adaminla> does anyone know what version of hplip gutsy has? 2.7.?
[00:08] <nemilar> Stepa1: ntfsfix /dev/sda1
[00:08] <Logan428> Pine: That's a big list
[00:08] <ppibburr> xine or mplayer :)
[00:08] <nickrud> Stepa1: you need to install ntfsprogs first iirc
[00:08] <DPic> laughzilla: rockbox is actually an open source firmware replacement for the ipod. you can get it from rockbox.org
[00:08] <nemilar> unop: I like what you did there, with the sh -c instead of using two sudo's
[00:08] <pine> look for something containg nvidia
[00:08] <phaedral> pidgin seems really flakey; what's the next best thing for IM?
[00:09] <laughzilla> dpic - it's not my ipod, it's a friend, and she's not a computer-savvy person ...
[00:09] <nemilar> phaedra: pidgin is the best!
[00:09] <jacob> i'm having difficulties burning an iso image into a dvd, can somebody help? I burned 3 dvd's already, but when it reaches the point that verifies the written data, it finds at least one error
[00:09] <nickrud> laughzilla: be cautious with rockbox, it doesn't work on all ipods
[00:09] <Stepa1> nemilar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53997/ does that mean i need to do chkdsk?
[00:09] <ppibburr> jacob: growisofs
[00:09] <laughzilla> nickrud - i don't want to switch my ipod's os ... i just want to convert some FLAC and mp3 files i have and stick them on her ipod :)
[00:09] <Stepa1> unop: thanks
[00:09] <nemilar> Stepa1: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1
[00:10] <jacob> ppibburr, growisofs?
[00:10] <b4l74z4r> rhythmbox doesn't seem to update the song/track info when i stream for example www.DI.fm, any ideas?
[00:10] <bod_> hey guys,. im having problems with a Belkin F5D7050B wireless dongle,. i get a connection but no internet,.,. im sort of dual networking with this, eg i have a ethernet cable in to talk on here, but i want to use the wifi,.,.any thoughts?
[00:10] <danand> nownot_ - have you restarted the firewall after editing ??
[00:10] <nownot_> danand: yes
[00:10] <ppibburr> jacob: commandline, takes the dvdsorce_dir, makes an iso burns to /dev/foo ")
[00:11] <usr13_> phaedral: There are several other IM clients.
[00:11] <phaedra> bod_, I have one on my other system.  What's the problem?
[00:11] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with DVD playback? I hear audio, but no voices!
[00:11] <DPic> is there anybody that can help me get ubuntu working on my ps3?
[00:11] <pine> phaedral: gajim is very good
[00:11] <Stepa1> nemilar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53998/
[00:11] <danand> nownot_ - thought about using a gui tool like firestarter?? - its alot easier :)
[00:11] <nemilar> HorizonXP: have you tried VLC?
[00:11] <jdh6403> my vd/dvd drive had dma off...i just turned it back on....do i need to reboot to have it take effect?
[00:11] <nownot_> danand: cant have no gui
[00:11] <ppibburr> DPic, sounds like issues aside from ubuntu...
[00:11] <pine> phaedral: best IM imo
[00:11] <bod_> phaedra, no internet, i have the dongle plugged in + ethernet cable, if i switch devices in network manager to use the wifi i seem to have a strong connection but no internet
[00:12] <phaedral> gajim; thanks will give it a spin
[00:12] <Rudd-O> question: I'm using the ubnutu nagios-text package (no db support like pgsql or mysql), and none of the trends for all the services show anything.  want to get the historical data but the historical data is not displayed or logged to nagios.log
[00:12] <nemilar> Stepa1: you said that windows had a virus, huh?
[00:12] <danand> nownot_ - ;) Hardcore!!
[00:12] <Logan428> Pine: Only one I can see is intel8x0
[00:12] <nickrud> laughzilla: take a look at soundconvert
[00:12] <nemilar> Stepa1: looks like your filesystem is very currupted
[00:12] <ene_dene> how do I find out which version of sound driver do I have?
[00:12] <bod_> nemilar, what a suprise
[00:12] <nickrud> laughzilla: also soundconverter
[00:12] <pine> mark it
[00:12] <HorizonXP> nemilar: yes, VLC is my preferred player. But it doesn't play DVDs on my machine.
[00:12] <Stepa1> nemilar:  That is what i was told since i cannot even enter with safemode.
[00:12] <laughzilla> nuckrud thanks i'll google for it
[00:12] <phaedra> bod_, Are you using the 'free' drivers or the win32 drivers.  I've had to use ndiswrapper and the XP drivers.
[00:12] <pine> can u do a : lspci | grep -i audio
[00:12] <unop> bod_, does the wireless interface get an IP address?
[00:12] <nickrud> laughzilla: they're in the repos
[00:12] <pine> again
[00:12] <danand> nownot_ - Is there a channel for iptables ??
[00:12] <Logan428> Pine: How? All I've got is a long list of drivers
[00:13] <jdh6403> my cd/dvd drive had dma off...i just turned it back on....do i need to reboot to have it take effect?
[00:13] <bod_> unop, not sure hang on
[00:13] <Stepa1> nemilar:  When the problem occured, the comp just rebooted out of nothing and thats when it happened
[00:13] <laughzilla> nickrud - u mean i can install them via synaptic ?
[00:13] <pine> yeah u must find the right driver
[00:13] <Rudd-O> jdh6403: no, do not reboot
[00:13] <pine> Logan do that lspci again
[00:13] <Rudd-O> sorry to repeat the question: I'm using the ubnutu nagios-text package (no db support like pgsql or mysql), and none of the trends for all the services show anything.  want to get the historical data but the historical data is not displayed or logged to nagios.log
[00:13] <bod_> phaedra, im not using any drivers at the moment,. i thought it would be best to ask for help from the beginning
[00:13] <Stepa1> nemilar: Is it still fixable?
[00:13] <nickrud> laughzilla: yes. sounconvert is command line , soundconverter is gui
[00:13] <jacob> ppibburr can you tell me the exact command? i don't know what to do
[00:14] <jdh6403> ty Rudd-O
[00:14] <laughzilla> thanks nickrud i'll give the gui a shot :)
[00:14] <pine> fire up another terminal and do that lspci
[00:14] <Rudd-O> jdh6403: yw
[00:14] <Logan428> Pine: Doing it now
[00:14] <nemilar> Stepa1: yeah, it's fixable, but it's going to be complex... there are CDs you can use that you can boot off of and repair the drive, but then I'd rescue whatever files you need and format it
[00:14] <nemilar> Stepa1: looks like it got seriously damaged
[00:14] <phaedra> bod_, Okay, then it's the free version.  You may need to use ndiswrapper and the rt2500usb drivers from the Belkin disk.
[00:14] <b4l74z4r> in system monitor, my cpu is over 90% and i'm just doing light stuff, what gives?
[00:15] <Logan428> 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[00:15] <Logan428> 01:06.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[00:15] <bod_> unop, yes i do
[00:15] <Josspyker_> bod_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261789
[00:15] <Rudd-O> b4l74z4r: check your process list
[00:15] <nickrud> b4l74z4r: one of the disk indexers might be running, is your disk active?
[00:15] <nownot_> can someone look here and tell me why firewall is blocking samba http://pastebin.ca/881705
[00:15] <bod_> Josspyker_, ta
[00:15] <Stepa1> nemilar: I was expecting a format. What CDs can i use?
[00:15] <Rudd-O> nickrud: if the cpu consumption is nice cpu then its probably an indexer
[00:15] <b4l74z4r> nickrud, no
[00:15] <pine> ok look in that list for something with  Bt878 or MCP61
[00:15] <bod_> phaedra, yer,. i dont have the disk,.,.so no drivers from winxp
[00:15] <Logan428> Pine: I think the second one is my messed-up TV card, ignore it
[00:15] <bod_> phaedra, i lost it
[00:15] <unop> bod_, ok, cool, can you ping that ip address and the address of the default gateway?
[00:15] <nickrud> Rudd-O: true, I've found most questions about that are from the system monitor on the panel
[00:15] <desktopi> hi where can i get some cool deskops pictures
[00:16] <bod_> unop, i have to keep diconnecting to check this so hang on
[00:16] <pine> ok look for MCP61
[00:16] <procrastinator> I'm trying to play a .wmv file in totem and can't seem to get it to work, I've installed the gstreamer plugins as well as the w32codecs and finally tried installing totem-xine.
[00:16] <Flare183> desktopi: goto http://www.ubuntu-art.org
[00:16] <Rudd-O> the panel monitor should ignore nice cpu load, since it's inconsequential to system performance
[00:16] <unop> nownot_, you seem to be missing a vital iptables library - /lib/iptables/libipt_FOWARD.so - i'd suggest you fix this first before attempting anything else
[00:16] <nickrud> procrastinator: can you play other wmv's?  Some are encrypted and linux won't play them
[00:16] <phaedra> bod_, Get it from the Belkin site then...  BTW - I've never gotten the Belkin up using any free drivers except in 6.06 lts.
[00:17] <jonathon_o> jacob what burning program are you using? Use a slower burn speed.
[00:17] <pine> procrastinato,  best thing to do is convert all wmv files to either mpg, avi or ogm
[00:17] <nickrud> Rudd-O: but it doesn't, it shows it as a very slightly different shade of blue
[00:17] <pine> no micr$oft is the best
[00:17] <procrastinator> nickrud: I can, but I have previously been able to play these files in ubuntu.  I would try VLC, but for some reason it has stopped starting for any file.  MPlayer will play it properly from command line but not if I load it through the gui.
[00:18] <dn4> how do I force mount HPFS/NTFS ?
[00:18] <Flare183> !nickspam > dgtlchlk
[00:18] <unop> dn4, add -o force to your mount command
[00:18] <nickrud> procrastinator: run gmplayer from the terminal, you might see some useful errors. Also try vlc from the command line
[00:18] <bod_> unop, ifconfig shows i have an ip address and am recieving a few packets and sending a few but i got no results from the ping
[00:19] <ene_dene> how do I find out which version of ALSA sound driver do I have?
[00:19] <unop> bod_, what did ping report?
[00:19] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with DVD playback? I hear audio, but no voices!
[00:19] <Stepa1> nemilar: What cd can I use & where can i get it
[00:19] <bod_> unop, nothing,. time out,.,. could not connect to host
[00:19] <Logan428> Pine: Nothing, but the intel8x0 says "nVidia nForce motherboards", which is what I have
[00:19] <unop> bod_, you got this for the interface's ip address too?
[00:20] <bod_> unop,  i didnt try my gateway hang on
[00:20] <pine> hmm, ok, lol.
[00:20] <TallHunkDan> help on playing video cds
[00:20] <ixian_> hi, is there some kind of configuration utility for laptop touchpads? i find the touchpad harder to use in linux than in windows, the mouse pointer seems a bit jerky
[00:20] <procrastinator> nickrud: I should mention that the video works, but not the audio in totem (everything works with mplayer from terminal); however, when using totem-xine, the audio works but the video does not.
[00:20] <pine> Logan, check this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[00:20] <TallHunkDan> i installed the gstreamer files and vlc but cant get to play my video cds or dvds
[00:21] <Flare183> ixian_: is it synaptic?
[00:21] <TallHunkDan> what do i do next
[00:21] <nickrud> procrastinator: yeah, things are definitely hinky.
[00:21] <procrastinator> nickrud: gmplayer played audio, but no video, trying vlc from terminal now.
[00:21] <pine> here you have many solution options to work on
[00:21] <Flare183> !dvd | TallHunkDan
[00:21] <ubotu> TallHunkDan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:21] <ixian_> Flare183: is what synaptic?
[00:21] <JFactor> Does anyone know how te get aoe3 running on gutsy
[00:21] <Flare183> ixian_: is it a synatpic touchpad?
[00:21] <Logan428> Pine: Thanks, I'll look through that
[00:21] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. Why do I not have a "g++" command in my ubuntu installation? I do have gcc
[00:21] <ixian_> Flare183: its a dell laptop, thats all i know
[00:21] <Flare183> synaptic*
[00:21] <nickrud> ene_dene: alsactl -version
[00:21] <loquitus_of_borg> I installed Eclipse and it is bitching cuz it expects g++
[00:21] <TallHunkDan> ok i will try that
[00:22] <ene_dene> nickrud: thanks
[00:22] <nickrud> loquitus_of_borg: did you install build-essential ?
[00:22] <procrastinator> nickrud: Here is the vlc output - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54002/
[00:22] <pine> are you sure u did: sudo modprobe snd ?
[00:22] <Flare183> ixian_: then just change the mouse settings
[00:22] <loquitus_of_borg> nickrud: not sure. does that package include g++?
[00:22] <Flare183> !who | pine
[00:22] <ubotu> pine: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:22] <Logan428> Pine: Yeah
[00:22] <nickrud> loquitus_of_borg: yes
[00:22] <pine> Logan, hm ok
[00:23] <ixian_> Flare183: the mouse settings dont seem to apply to it.. same speed/etc no matter what setting
[00:23] <laughzilla> nickrud - i installed soundconverter ... can ipods play mp3 format?  i thought they were mp4 or mp4a or something like that.
[00:23] <nickrud> procrastinator: hm. X errors are over my head
[00:23] <nickrud> laughzilla: yes, absolutely
[00:23] <TallHunkDan> i did just that. install gstreamer
[00:23] <b4l74z4r> wow, when i quit firefox, my cpu went from over 90% to around 20%, how is that possible?
[00:23] <TallHunkDan> but still wont run my dvd files
[00:23] <bod_> unop, nope,.,. coudnt find any address that worked,.,. i couldnt even connect to my router to get the addresses, i had to do that through ethernet,.,. i seem to be picking up a signal, connectiong to it, and getting no further
[00:23] <nickrud> b4l74z4r: probably flash, but possibly some other thing. Too many tabs open, etc
[00:23] <sidelil> excuse me how can I create a link to a file from another folder (just to open that file more quickly). I tried with ln but doesn't work
[00:23] <nownot_> can someone look here and tell me why firewall is blocking samba http://pastebin.ca/881779
[00:24] <pine> Logan428, come back tomorrow, and we try then, gtg
[00:24] <b4l74z4r> i had one , tab, are there flash issues with firefox?
[00:24] <Logan428> Pine: Hope to see you tomorrow then
[00:24] <Flare183> !flashissures
[00:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashissures - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:24] <Flare183> !flashissues
[00:24] <bod_> b4l74z4r, yes but there is a fix
[00:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:24] <bod_> !flash
[00:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[00:24] <Flare183> bod_: i got it
[00:24] <pine> Logan428, I had sound issues my self , so I know how frustating it is
[00:25] <bod_> Flare183, damn you and your fast typing,,.,.,.;)
[00:25] <Logan428> Pine: It wasn't bothering me until I wanted to listen to music :(
[00:25] <Flare183> bod_: 250 gross words per minute
[00:25] <Flare183> bod_: and since i and op you get the idea
[00:25] <nickrud> b4l74z4r: flash sometimes simply grabs way too much processor
[00:25] <Flare183> i'm*
[00:25] <Flare183> nickrud: yeah it does do that sometimes
[00:25] <laughzilla> nickrud - thanks :)
[00:25] <Flare183> nickrud: flash that is
[00:26] <bod_> Flare183, well i can type 250 nice words a minute ,.,. be shushed,.,. no one wants to hear you gloat,.,.lol,.,.;)
[00:26] <Stargazer> Will my Evolution Mail client check for mail even i closed it ?
[00:26] <Flare183> bod_: nah i understand
[00:26] <bod_> unop, any ideas?
[00:26] <Flare183> Stargazer: nope
[00:26] <bod_> ;)
[00:26] <Rudd-O> anywhere I can go for help on my particular issue?
[00:26] <Flare183> :_
[00:26] <unop_> bod_, it's likely that you aren't authenticating properly to the router - first try renewing the ipaddress - sudo dhclient wlan0
[00:26] <Flare183> :)
[00:26] <Stargazer> So i have to have it open ? could i move it to another workspace ?
[00:26] <unop_> bod_, replace wlan0 with your interface's name
[00:27] <Flare183> Rudd-O: depends on what the issue is
[00:27] <Stargazer> So i have to have it open ? could i move it to another workspace ? Flare183
[00:27] <blackvd> i deleted my gnome panels and was wondering how i can get them back?
[00:27] <TallHunkDan> gstreamer wont run my videos. why is that?
[00:27] <Rudd-O> Flare183: did you read my nagios question?
[00:27] <nickrud> !resetpanels | blackvd
[00:27] <ubotu> blackvd: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[00:27] <bod_> unop_, damn,.,. unop are you also connected as unop, ? ,.,. and il try that,.,. my router has no encryption
[00:27] <Flare183> Stargazer: yeap or i think you can have it on the system tray
[00:27] <Flare183> Rudd-O: nope i didn't see it
[00:27] <blackvd> problem i cant ope a terminal
[00:27] <Rudd-O> sorry to repeat the question: I'm using the ubnutu nagios-text package (no db support like pgsql or mysql), and none of the trends for all the services show anything.  want to get the historical data but the historical data is not displayed or logged to nagios.log
[00:27] <jcrazo> try "alltray" for evolution
[00:27] <blackvd> *open
[00:27] <jcrazo> works good
[00:28] <Rudd-O> there it is
[00:28] <blackvd> no alt+F2
[00:28] <blackvd> no menus
[00:28] <the7thmagus> has anyone here used PartImage? I want to create an image of my ubuntu partition but I don't have enough space to save the image on the current partition. is it possible for partimage to save an image to another partition?
[00:28] <blackvd> nvm
[00:28] <nickrud> blackvd: lol, you found one?
[00:28] <Pici> Rudd-O: You may try asking in #nagios if you don't get an answere here :)
[00:28] <JFactor> how can I get s-video functioning, I have an Hp Dv9000 with nvidia 6150
[00:28] <bkar> the7thmagus-> you can use disk dump to copy it to another partition
[00:28] <unop_> bod_, i'm having trouble staying connected for the last few days - xchat autologs me in -- i'm running a F5D7050 too btw :)
[00:29] <Rudd-O> Pici: already did
[00:29] <Rudd-O> no answer
[00:29] <Josspyker_> the7thmagus: yes
[00:29] <blackvd> i did but that command isnt working
[00:29] <unop_> blackvd, do you have access to a terminal?
[00:30] <blackvd> yeah right clicked the desktop to find one
[00:30] <bod_> unop_, cool,.,. ur the man to speak to then,.,. are you connected with unop, and unop_,   ?   and heres my pastebin for the renewal : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54004/
[00:30] <nickrud> blackvd: then in that terminal, type   gnome-panel &
[00:30] <blackvd> aha
[00:30] <blackvd> nice thanks
[00:31] <mag2> I just removed a hard drive and got a "b0 error" what command do I use with the livecd to reinstall grub?
[00:31] <unop_> bod_, seems like you got an IP address alright -- try this -- ping 192.168.2.1
[00:31] <nickrud> blackvd: now type disown <tab>  <-- press the tab key
[00:31] <Flare183> !tab
[00:31] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:31] <Flare183> awesome
[00:31] <bod_> unop_,  btw i have no drivers for this,.,. i lost the disk,. i havent done anything to it,.,. tht is my routers ip,.,. i get a ping timeout
[00:32] <Babbudoiu> someone has connected from ubuntu to a domain NT ? i have a problem with group in ubuntu system
[00:32] <unop_> bod_, if you are disconnecting wired and wireless to switch back and forth, you might be losing the IP address -- paste the output of this -- sudo dhclient wlan0 && ping 192.168.2.1
[00:33] <Stargazer> Do i need something to watch videos on veoh ?
[00:33] <HorizonXP> nemilar: somehow, 5.1 sound doesn't get converted properly. i went into the dvd menu and changed it to regular stereo sound
[00:33] <soldats> Stargazer, flash is for veoh
[00:34] <TallHunkDan> Help my totem player says: An Error Occured - the playback of this movie requires a vcd protocol source plugin which is not installed.
[00:34] <Sergo21> anyone know, how to lunch azureus vuze in the advanced mode
[00:34] <Stargazer> Soldats, but the video has been loading for like 2 minutes now
[00:34] <nickrud> !brokenflash | Stargazer (look for the blue text on that page)
[00:34] <ubotu> Stargazer (look for the blue text on that page): The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:34] <Rudd-O> found the problem.  permissions issue in the default package
[00:34] <soldats> nickrud, it really depends on if he installed through the repos the flash from adobe still works fine :P
[00:35]  * Flare183 is bored to death
[00:35] <nickrud> soldats: yeah, I typed that before he mentioned it was loading. darn this lag :)
[00:35] <Flare183> What's up Dr_willis?
[00:35] <soldats> nickrud, lol no worries
[00:35] <TallHunkDan>  Help my totem player says: An Error Occured - the playback of this movie requires a vcd protocol source plugin which is not installed.
[00:36] <nickrud> soldats: by the way, the flash from the repos works fine, it just doesn't get downloaded :)
[00:36] <soldats> ahh didnt know that thanks
[00:36] <Flare183> !vcd
[00:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:36] <Flare183> crap
[00:36] <linchapulin> A little help using the ln -s command...which comes first the name of the symbolic link,or the actual file to link to?
[00:36] <bod_> unop_ im not disconnecting by pulling them out,. im switching devices in networkk manager,.,. heres the bin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54005/ ,.,. theres something weird,. using the wifi it happily let me paste the pastebin (which i assume you need an internet connection for) but it timed out when i searched for "Jesus" in google.
[00:37] <nickrud> soldats: it's the same flash, just a bad (sad) joke
[00:37] <Flare183> linchapulin: i think the symbolic one comes first
[00:37] <Flare183> keyword i think
[00:37] <soldats> nickrud, :)
[00:37] <nickrud> linchapulin: the file
[00:37] <drarem> how do i set up crontab to redirect to an open-arena server running in a terminal?  I tried the tty, eg..  > dev/pts/0  and the echo works in the terminal, however the say '  '  > dev/pts/0 won't appear in the openarena game or server window
[00:37] <linchapulin> Flare183:: Ok thanks...I guess I have to be in the directory where I want the link to reside?
[00:37] <bod_> unop_ im not disconnecting by pulling them out,. im switching devices in networkk manager,.,. heres the bin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54005/ ,.,. theres something weird,. using the wifi it happily let me paste the pastebin (which i assume you need an internet connection for) but it timed out when i searched for "Jesus" in google.
[00:37] <Flare183> linchapulin: exactly
[00:37] <noxiousrao> join ubuntu
[00:38] <linchapulin> Flare183:: Kewl many thanks
[00:38] <Flare183> linchapulin: no problem
[00:38] <nickrud> linchapulin: you can do  ln -s /path/to/file  /path/to/link
[00:38] <Flare183> yeah that too
[00:38] <linchapulin> nickrud:: Gotcha...
[00:38] <Flare183> easy to do the first through
[00:38] <Flare183> easier*
[00:38]  * nickrud loves tab completion :)
[00:38] <tim167> hi, if i want to add 200 MB of jpgs to several zips of around 20 MB each instead of one big zip, how do i do that ?
[00:39] <linchapulin> nickrud:: I do too!
[00:39]  * Flare183 seconds tab completion
[00:39] <DWalace> is there an i686 version of the ubuntu kernel? how do I update my i386 version without reinstalling?
[00:39] <unop_> bod_, something isn't right here -- can you ping your router/default gateway with the wired connection/?
[00:39] <jeffMASTERflex> tim167: sounds like a rar archive set to me
[00:39] <Flare183> tim167: i think you have to use the split option i think
[00:39] <bod_> tim167, seperately zip the lots of files,.,. then zip the zips ,.,. easy
[00:39] <bod_> unop_, yes
[00:39] <Flare183> 7z works a lot better
[00:39] <nickrud> DWalace: search for  linux-generic  in synaptic, and install that
[00:40] <Flare183> better compression too
[00:40] <Cookiepig> sup
[00:40] <DWalace> thanks a lot...
[00:40] <Flare183> What's up Cookiepig
[00:40] <bod_> Flare183, do you mean on windows?
[00:40] <nickrud> DWalace: it will optomize for your processor, amd or intel or whatever
[00:40] <tim167> bod_ so i make one zip first, and then rezip and i can select to separate into multiple ?
[00:40] <unop_> bod_, let's see an output of  sudp iwlist scan   with the wireless connection enabled
[00:40] <Flare183> bod_: both windows and on linux
[00:40] <Flare183> bod_: apt-get p7zip that's the 7z program
[00:40] <bod_> tim167, you have 50 files,.,. zip 5 lots of ten files,.,. then you have 5 zips,. then zip that zip
[00:41] <pvl1> is there a package for vmware tools or do i have to download it from the website? and does it work with the package?
[00:41] <Flare183> !vmware | pvl1
[00:41] <ubotu> pvl1: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[00:41] <bod_> Flare183, cheers
[00:41] <Flare183> bod_: fuller up!
[00:41] <bod_> Flare183, i like gzip though,.,. i like the word,. tarball
[00:41] <unop_> bod_, you are not likely to achieve anything by zipping zip files, you might also lose out on overall compression
[00:41] <bod_> unop_, k 1 sec
[00:41] <Flare183> bod_: lol yeah
[00:41] <pvl1> Flare183, thnx
[00:41] <sneakmonkey> hey
[00:41] <Flare183> pvl1: no problem
[00:41] <Flare183> !hi | sneakmonkey
[00:41] <Doctor-Who> Hello!
[00:41] <ubotu> sneakmonkey: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:42] <tim167> bod_ i want it to result in 10 files of about 20MB each so if i send them over internet the receiver can restart if he gets disconnected
[00:42] <nickrud> !welcome | Doctor-Who
[00:42]  * Flare183 says the Docter Who is in!
[00:42] <ubotu> Doctor-Who: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[00:42] <Willabee> Right now I'm using shockwave through firefox on WINE for an online class, but whenever I close a tab/window that uses shockwave, firefox freezes.  Anyway to stop this?
[00:42] <TallHunkDan>  Help my totem player says: An Error Occured - the playback of this movie requires a vcd protocol source plugin which is not installed.
[00:42] <Flare183> Willabee: one you don't need to be using wine with firefox is ava. for ubuntu/linux
[00:42] <Flare183> !firefox
[00:42] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[00:42] <nickrud> TallHunkDan: the only suggestion I have is install   ubuntu-restricted-extras  that will make sure you have all available plugins
[00:43] <jeffMASTERflex> Flare183: shockwave doesn't run in linux
[00:43] <Dr_willis> isent shockwave different from flash?
[00:43] <Willabee> Shockwave isn't available for firefox on linux
[00:43] <tim167> Flare183 7zip is in repositories ?
[00:43] <Flare183> jeffMASTERflex: what!?
[00:43] <nat6138> Dr_willis: Sorta.
[00:43] <Flare183> tim167: yeah
[00:43] <Stepa1> nemilar: are you still here?
[00:43] <nat6138> tim167: Yes.
[00:43] <Flare183> tim167: p7zip
[00:43] <Flare183> !info p7zip | tim167
[00:43] <ubotu> tim167: p7zip (source: p7zip): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.51~dfsg.1-1 (gutsy), package size 304 kB, installed size 900 kB
[00:43] <jtaylor> I ran a program and it used so much memory it started to swap to disk to such an extent that I could not even ctrl+c it or use my mouse... is there any way to fix this behaviour so at least i dont have to restart my computer?
[00:43] <Dr_willis> I  recall some others asking about the firefox/shockwave/crashing stuff - May want to check the Forums
[00:43] <tim167> Flare183 cool i'll check it out :)
[00:43] <bod_> unop_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54007/
[00:43] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  sounds like a massive memory leak in the program..  or badly done program.
[00:44] <Flare183> tim167: ok
[00:44] <Flare183> yeap you guys were right look
[00:44] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  if you can get a shell you can kill theprogram.
[00:44] <Flare183> !shockwave
[00:44] <elad`> Hi. I just installed Adobe Flash Player, but Firefox doesn't seem to recognize it, even though I installed it from within Firefox. I mean, I used Firefox's pop-up which prompted me to install it.
[00:44] <sneakmonkey> I wanted to ask about installing ubuntu w/o a cd
[00:44] <nickrud> jtaylor: closing the terminal sometimes works when ctl-c won't
[00:44] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[00:44] <jtaylor> Dr_willis: indeed... I am writing the program... but I shouldnt need to kill my computer
[00:44] <unop_> tim167, the zip package on ubuntu contains a utility called zipsplit which can split a .zip file based on a size you specify
[00:44] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  kill the pid.
[00:44] <nat6138> elad: Use the one on Adobe's website.
[00:44] <Flare183> elad`: can't do it that way
[00:44] <jtaylor> Dr_willis: I can't type on it though
[00:44] <nat6138> The one in the repositories is broken.
[00:44] <Flare183> !flash
[00:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[00:45] <TallHunkDan> thanks nickrud
[00:45] <new2linux> can install over a bad install?
[00:45] <elad`> Flare183, how can I do it... Thanks.
[00:45] <nickrud> TallHunkDan: did it work?
[00:45] <Flare183> elad`: no problem
[00:45] <codename> hey
[00:45] <nickrud> new2linux: yes
[00:45] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  yep you may be over the edge then.   you Might be able to slowly type stuff..  or ssh in
[00:45] <codename> whats the package name for compiz manager
[00:45] <tim167> unop_ will a person using *cough*windows*cough* be able to open those ?
[00:45] <new2linux> thank you  nicjrud
[00:45] <Flare183> codename: compiz
[00:45] <codename> The compiz effects manager
[00:45] <Flare183> haha
[00:45] <nickrud> !ccsm | codename
[00:45] <TallHunkDan> stil trying
[00:45] <ubotu> codename: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:45] <codename> No I know, for 7.10
[00:45] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[00:45] <elad`> Flare183, I'm using 7.10, though.
[00:45] <benanzo> Pidgin in Ubuntu Gutsy doesn't honor Gnome's proxy settings -- anyone else experience this?
[00:45] <Flare183> !compiz > codename
[00:45] <macabro22> Hello
[00:46] <TallHunkDan> nickrun. nope it wont work
[00:46] <soldats> elad`, unless firefox detect a certain "linux" plugin install it will say "finished" no matter what bt still ont install anything. for future reference for plugins type "about:plugins" in the address bar in fiorefox to check
[00:46] <unop_> bod_, it looks to me the signal strength is not too strong -- try changing the channel on the router to something like 1 or 2
[00:46] <jtaylor> Dr_willis: its a little silly to let a single process make a computer non responsive by default though
[00:46]  * nickrud needs to go find the laptop power cord
[00:46] <elad`> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[00:46] <Flare183> elad`: can't then
[00:46] <jeffMASTERflex> benanzo: you can manually set the proxy settings in preferences
[00:46] <macabro22> Can someone help me get my mic working?
[00:46] <nat6138> elad: The one in the repositories is broken.
[00:46] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  theres some settings that can limit processes from doing that. but i never messed with them.
[00:46] <random> How would I go about getting my USB wireless adapter working?
[00:46] <unop_> tim167, .zip is an almost universal format -- i dont see why a winders user would have difficulty
[00:46] <elad`> What do I do then, nat6138 ?
[00:47] <bod_> unop_, theres nothing wrong with the signal strength,.,it shows almost full,.,.same as it did on windows
[00:47] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  every so often some thread gets started on the topic. then theres a flamefest. and it dies out for a while. :)
[00:47] <Flare183> !flashissues
[00:47] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:47] <Flare183> see?
[00:47] <slugone> hey guys i got a rss feed gdesklet and when I try to right click it and shut it down ...the desklets turn grey and freeze and my second cpu floods to 100%... and i cant manually disable it....any ideas
[00:47] <benanzo> jeffMASTERflex: yes that's what I've done but just thought I bring it up since it's supposed to honor gnome's global proxy config
[00:47] <sneakmonkey> Hello, I'm attempting to install linux w/o a cd. I followed this tutorial on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 I managed to set up the GRUB but it cant find the install file how could i fix that?
[00:47] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,  i think the command was ulimit, but ive not ever messed with it.
[00:47] <elad`> uff
[00:47] <Leila> I have lost the hot plug with a USB drive. It won't recognize automatically. Does anyone have a link to where I can get information on how to get it back.
[00:48] <tim167> unop_ ok, i just thought since it says  something  about high compression ratio and all, anyway i'll just try it out
[00:48] <Flare183> !install
[00:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> slugone: Where did you get the desklet
[00:48] <Flare183> !wubi
[00:48] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[00:48] <Flare183> or that
[00:48] <jeffMASTERflex> benanzo: submit the bug report and hopefully they will look into it. i don't use any proxies so can't really verify it
[00:48] <slugone> it came with gdesklets....its the rss grab
[00:48] <bod_> Flare183, remember, ubotu has feelings too,.,.,.,.,.lol,.,.,.,.;)
[00:48] <Flare183> bod_: slightly
[00:48] <Flare183> ubotu is a bot
[00:48] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[00:49] <Flare183> yeap see (look up)
[00:49] <slugone> its flooding 1 of my cpus right now
[00:49] <Dr_willis> jtaylor,   see  http://webtools.live2support.com/linux/ulimit.php
[00:49] <random> I have two problems. One, I can't get my wireless card to work. Two, the resolution keeps reverting to 640x480. Can anyone help?
[00:49] <f00fbug> I tried to install a new version of libasound2, but it needed a dep that I didn't want to install, so the install failed
[00:49] <unop_> bod_, forget windows - you are using a linux driver here and that could affect things - secondly, i wouldn't trust information presented to me by the network manager - thirdly, i'd go with the information in iwlist - fourthly, i can' think of any other reason why your pings would timeout :)
[00:49] <bod_> Flare183, really?
[00:49]  * Flare183 says duo core rocks
[00:49] <tim167> unop_ how do i run p7zip, its help only mentions decompressing...
[00:49] <TallHunkDan> nikrud. i was able to play dvd but not vcd
[00:49] <Flare183> bod_: yeap
[00:49] <f00fbug> but now whenever I try to install a package it tells me that I need to run apt-get -f install...
[00:49] <chrisbrl88> im running ubuntu 7.10 and gnome wont let me enable visual effects
[00:49] <bod_> Flare183, i never new (joke),.,.lol
[00:49] <jeffMASTERflex> tim167: man p7zip
[00:49]  * random I have two problems. One, I can't get my wireless card to work. Two, the resolution keeps reverting to 640x480. Can anyone help?
[00:49] <unop_> tim167, i dunno p7zip - did i mention it?
[00:49] <f00fbug> but! apt-get -f install wants to remove nearly ALL OF MY PACKAGES
[00:50] <Flare183> bod_: haha
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> f00fbug: I would suggest you run apt-get -f
[00:50] <f00fbug> is there any way to tell apt that I don't want to install that one package?!
[00:50] <bod_> unop_, ok,.,.sorry *runs away and cries*    im set to channel 11,.,. if i change this, will it affect the other people in the house using wireless
[00:50] <Flare183> f00fbug: i think so see man apt-get
[00:50] <tim167> jeffMASTERflex ah that's it thanks
[00:50]  * random I have two problems. One, I can't get my wireless card to work. Two, the resolution keeps reverting to 640x480. Can anyone help?
[00:51] <Flare183> bod_: haha that would be so funny
[00:51] <bod_> f00fbug, also see :    man aptitiude
[00:51] <TallHunkDan> nickrud. how can i play vcds with my totem player. my dvd seems ok now
[00:51] <Flare183> !repeat > random (come on people_
[00:51] <Flare183> )*
[00:51] <bod_> Flare183, what would?
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> randomPlease dont repeat.  Try telleing people what network and video cards you are using
[00:51] <Flare183> bod_: you changing the channel number
[00:51] <dduong> bod: I've heard that anything but channel 6 is good.
[00:51] <Flare183> bod_: that would be funny as he**
[00:51] <bod_> Flare183, will changing it stop ohter peoples wifi ?
[00:51] <tim167> jeffMASTERflex uhm sorry but man p7zip also only mentions decompress
[00:51] <Flare183> bod_: yeap
[00:52] <Leila> TallHunkDan: Try using VLC.
[00:52] <f00fbug> ok for the record aptitude > apt-get.. thx bod_
[00:52] <f00fbug> and thx Flannel
[00:52] <f00fbug> err Flare183
[00:52] <random> Network card - Dynex Wireless USB adapter. Video - NVidia GEForce 6350 SE
[00:52] <bod_> Flare183, ok, thats out of the question
[00:52] <unop_> bod_, they might experience a small interruption - but that depends on how your router handles the change - also since channel 11 has the longest range, people with a weak signal already might experience some trouble -- but i'd do this just to test it out, you can always revert
[00:52] <TallHunkDan> ok ill try
[00:52] <Flare183> f00fbug: no problem
[00:52] <random> My bad, 6150
[00:52] <Flare183> bod_: yeah but still funny
[00:52] <bod_> f00fbug, for the record,.,.aptitude isnt apt-get
[00:52] <jeffMASTERflex> tim167: i don't use p7zip. I recommend using zip or rar. you woulnd't want to force another user to install something just because the compression would be marginally better
[00:52] <tim167> jeffMASTERflex looks like i need to look at man 7z right ?
[00:52] <Leila> I have lost the hot plug with a USB drive. It won't recognize automatically. Does anyone have a link to where I can get information on how to get it back.
[00:52] <f00fbug> bod_, yeah, it's beter :)
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> random: THe video card shouldnt be too hard, but I have never heard of that brand of network usb thingy
[00:53] <tim167> jeffMASTERflex ok
[00:53] <chrisbrl88> anyone have any idea why i cant enable visual effects under gnome in ubuntu 7.10?
[00:53] <f00fbug> hence the greater than symbol ;)
[00:53] <histo> Leila: does lsusb show the device?
[00:53] <unop_> tim167, if i were you, i would use zip - its the most widely used format, almost everyone can unzip zip files
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Leila,   have you manually altered the fstab?  if a device is listed in the fstab the hotplug stuff ignores it - ibelive
[00:53] <Flare183> unop_: you mean you if I done that i could get from "sucking" off of my router?
[00:53] <Flare183> if i done that*
[00:53] <random> Jack_Sparrow: I'm willing to start with the video card
[00:53] <Leila> chrisbrl88: do you have the 3d drivers installed for your video card?
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> chrisbrl88: MOst likely you have not got the video setup right.. but ask in #Compiz they can fix ou right up
[00:54] <unop_> Flare183, i'm not sure i understand you, can you come again please?
[00:54] <bod_> unop_, i recently had an argument with my step sister (in her room lies the *!*ROUTER*!*) she kept taking out my cable,. so i dont wanna start another argument,. if i change channels, will that kill everyones wifi?,.,.there all asleep btw and the whole house is wifi except me
[00:54] <bod_> f00fbug, yep
[00:54] <TheFishy> how can i see where a program is held?
[00:54] <chrisbrl88> ok thanks
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> random: What have you done so far as far as drivers and tinkering
[00:54] <bod_> f00fbug,  sorry,. i thought u meant same as
[00:54] <f00fbug> bod_, it's ok :)
[00:54] <histo> bod_: yes if you change channels on the router it they will have to change to the new channel.
[00:54] <bod_> ;)
[00:54] <tim167> unop_, can you or anyone give an example command to zip 200 MB files into 10 zips of 20 MB (automatically) ?
[00:54] <nemilar> Stepa1: sorry had to run out for a minute...did you get helped?
[00:54] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: which program_name
[00:55] <bod_> histo,  thanks for the clarification
[00:55] <Leila> histo:  No. it does not.
[00:55] <unop_> bod_, errm, stop arguing with your step-sister and make like easy for yourself :) if they're all asleep, they'll never know
[00:55] <unop_> tim167, man zip :)
[00:55] <Dr_willis>  zipsplit [-hiLpst] [-n size] [-b path] zipfile
[00:55] <bod_> histo, unop_, if i change from channell 11 to 1 then change back to 11 ,.,.will they all have there internet back?
[00:55] <Flare183> unop_: ok like you said if I changed the channel to 6 then people passing by (using a latop) wouldn't be able to "suck" the internet (sucking=using)
[00:55] <xobius> chrisbrl88, have you enabled 3D acel?
[00:55] <hotmonkeyluv> is faad2 in the ubuntu repos?
[00:55] <histo> bod_: yes
[00:55] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, pidgin
[00:55] <Flare183> !find faad2
[00:55] <bod_> histo, ta
[00:55] <ubotu> Found: libfaad2-0, libfaad2-dev
[00:55] <Flare183> yeap
[00:55] <histo> bod_: only if you change the channel in th router settings though.
[00:55] <hotmonkeyluv> oh
[00:55] <Leila> Dr_willis: I haven't on purpose. But I have done a lot of tweaking.
[00:55] <AngryElf> how do I prevent Dapper from searching for and starting md arrays?
[00:55] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks flare183
[00:55] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: no the name of the command is "which programname"
[00:56] <bod_> unop_, ok,.,.changing to channel 1 now
[00:56] <Flare183> hotmonkeyluv: no problem
[00:56] <random> Jack_Sparrow: Not much, considering I have no connection to the internet through Linux(I'm on Vista at the moment), and I'm way new to linux in the first place. I've been trying to change it to the right resolution(1440x900) in widescreen, but when I try that, the screen goes back to 640x480. Now, any setting reverts to 640x480.
[00:56] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, ok ty
[00:56] <unop_> Flare183, well, that depends on whether your connection is secure or not
[00:56] <tim167> unop_ LOTS of info there...just thought an example from someone would help me out quicker :p
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !res | random  is a good place to start
[00:56] <ubotu> random  is a good place to start: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:57] <Flare183> unop_: crap it's not "secure" but i can't kick someone off the router if needed
[00:57] <Flare183> can*
[00:57] <Flare183> sorry
[00:57] <unop_> tim167,  find /path/to/zips | zip zipfile -@
[00:57] <sixpence> Heya, which file controls what WM/DE will be started when I invoke startx? Basically I don't want to use gdm anymore.
[00:57] <bod_> unop_, ok,.,.changing the channel didnt work,.,.?,.,.
[00:57] <unop_> sixpence, ~/.xinitrc
[00:57] <nemilar> sixpence: it used to be ~/.xinitrc
[00:58] <Dr_willis> sixpence,  you can make a .xinitrc file in the users home dir - and start exactly what you want. Otherwise it some how reads a system default, or i THINK whatever you last selected in gdm
[00:58] <nemilar> unop_: ubuntu didn't change that recently?
[00:58] <histo> bod_: You have to change the channel in the routers settings not on one machine.
[00:58] <Flare183> just say mine name if anybody needs any help I will be playing Paper Mario on the computer
[00:58] <unop_> bod_, ok, i'd change the channel back like a good-boy and probably look for better drivers :)
[00:58] <Flare183> my*
[00:58] <bod_> histo, yer,.,. i went to 192.168.2.1 in firefox,.then changed the setting
[00:58] <chrisbrl88> going to #compiz hasnt been as helpful as i hoped
[00:58] <Stepa1> nemilar:  Its me, do you know the name of the cd that can help me?
[00:58] <tim167> unop_ hm i dont quite follow, or is it 'zipsplit' ?
[00:58] <histo> bod_: yes you could also just turn off the wireless
[00:58] <unop_> nemilar, iirc, ~/.xinitrc does not exist on a default install -- but it is used by startx if it exists
[00:58] <bod_> unop_, where would i find the winxp dirvers (nice and free like)
[00:59] <histo> !wifi > bod_,   bod_ Read the private message from ubotu.
[00:59] <bod_> histo, how will that help?
[00:59] <unop_> bod_, ohh, are you using windows drivers?
[00:59] <histo> bod_: I thought you were trying to disable the wireless for others on your router.
[00:59] <bod_> unop_, i have no drivers ,.,. whatsoever to my knowledge
[00:59] <Carbonflux> I had to do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get my resolution settings to work correctly, and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly or use nivida-settings, the UI information is wrong.
[00:59] <histo> bod_: what type of card is it?
[00:59] <nemilar> Stepa1: most recommended would be something like miniPE-XT or something of that sort
[00:59] <bod_> histo, no, trying to fix mine
[00:59] <rhpot1991> anyone ever see anything where you have working wifi using wep, go to configure it to wap instead which fails and then it will no longer connect to the old wep?
[00:59] <oogy> what should go in .xinitrc if you were to use it, for gnome for example
[00:59] <Carbonflux> nvidia-settings generates a proper file tho
[01:00] <Stepa1> nemilar: thanks, ill check it out
[01:00] <TheFishy> so i installed gaim + xfire for linux and its not showing up
[01:00] <bod_> histo, belkin F5D7050B
[01:00] <histo> bod_: what chipset is it on those cards?
[01:01] <Mm|Spunky> I have a question reguarding Ubuntu 7.10. Has anyone ever had the issue where they leave there PC idle, or sometimes things just randomly stop working, like for instance terminal, when you go to applications and such and try to use it, does it say "starting terminal" in the task menu then just quit? if so and you have fixed it pleas assist me with that issue.
[01:01] <unop_> bod_,  check replies 1 and 2 here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/108264
[01:01] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: gaim no longer exists. the instant messenger program is now know as pidgin
[01:01] <bod_> UNOPCHEERS
[01:01] <bod_> unop_, cheers
[01:01] <Carbonflux> seems like a bug has crept into the latest nvidia driver that causes it to fail to detect the proper mode settings for a monitor by default
[01:01] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, i know this but i call it gaim
[01:01] <bod_> histo,  how would i tell?
[01:01] <histo> unop_: I believe thats the wireless B belkin card I had the G card working on my system but can't remember what chipset it was using.
[01:01] <unop_> bod_, i was wondering why you were screaming at me there :)
[01:01] <histo> bod_: lspci and look for the network card.
[01:02] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, anyways im trying to install g-fire to gaim/pidgin
[01:02] <Mm|Spunky> Carbonflux: was that answer to me?
[01:02] <bod_> unop_, yer,.er,.,.soryy bout that,.,.:)
[01:02] <unop_> histo, i have the same one he's got,a F5D7050 - it uses the rt73/rt73usb module
[01:02] <bod_> histo,  its a dongle so lsusb i think
[01:02] <histo> ugg
[01:02] <histo> bod_: yeah those cards are a pita.
[01:03] <bod_> histo, pita bread?
[01:03] <histo> bod_: nvm.  Just read the suggestion from unop_
[01:03] <bod_> histo, lsusb : Bus 005 Device 026: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components
[01:03] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: you downloaded the xfire plugin through the snapshots page?
[01:03] <TallHunkDan> last problem. i cant gte my laptops sound to work however if i use my headset, i have no problem hearing sounds.
[01:03] <unop_> bod_, i compiled my drivers from ralink's site, but i guess they arent really reliable, i've been reading that serialmonkey has alternatives that work better, so i'm gonna try them out
[01:04] <bod_> unop_, cheers m8
[01:04] <TallHunkDan> why dont i hear any sound from my ubuntu installed laptop?
[01:04] <unop_> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components
[01:04] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=141362&package_id=155388
[01:04] <bod_> TallHunkDan, speakers probably muted
[01:04] <histo> unop_: yeah serialmonkey is the way to go from what i've seen in here with those cards.
[01:04] <TallHunkDan> bod_ checked that already
[01:05] <bod_> ok
[01:05] <histo> !sound > TallHunkDan,   TallHunkDan Read the private message from ubotu.
[01:05] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: the latest updated debs to xfire plugin are at http://gfire.sourceforge.net/snapshots/
[01:05] <singlesun1> i want to be able to connect my laptop to my desktop pc, i want my desktop to function as a server that will be able to runs various different server distros so that I can test this different distros out with my laptop... what software will support this?
[01:06] <histo> singlesun1: software on what the laptop or the server?
[01:06] <bod_> histo,  unop_, gonna check ubotu's thoughts,.,.brb
[01:06] <slugone> what is the most current / useful desklet / screenlet there?
[01:06] <singlesun1> histo, i want to use my desktop pc to function under several different servers OS's
[01:06] <slugone> out there *
[01:06] <histo> singlesun1: okay
[01:07] <singlesun1> histo, i want to be able to connect my laptop to it, to test these various servers
[01:07] <slugone> lol, what is the most useful desklet screenlet program out there right now
[01:07] <jeffMASTERflex> slugone: deskbar is definitely the most useful applet. i think the gdesklets are pretty useless
[01:07] <bruenig> !info conky
[01:07] <ubotu> conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[01:07] <histo> singlesun1: just use XMDCP or any other remote conneciton type system.
[01:07] <slugone> same
[01:07] <bruenig> deskbar is entirely useless
[01:08] <histo> singlesun1: vnc etc...
[01:08] <slugone> where can i get deskbar
[01:08] <histo> !best > singlesun1,   singlesun1 Read the private message from ubotu.
[01:08] <bod_> histo,  i dont like bug reports, they scare me,.,. im gonna wait for unop_'s drivers,.,.lol
[01:08] <jeffMASTERflex> bruenig: no way. i don't use any menus or icons. it actually does everything for me
[01:08] <bruenig> jeffMASTERflex, I don't even have a panel
[01:08] <singlesun1> histo, basically what software will allow my desktop box to function as various different servers?
[01:08] <histo> bod_: you still will have to blacklist the broken modueles
[01:08] <histo> singlesun1: you could use a virtual machine type thing.
[01:08] <robierto> if i don't want to use any menus and icons i use a terminal
[01:08] <histo> singlesun1: virtualbox
[01:09] <singlesun1> histo, virtualbox is a free app?
[01:09] <bruenig> just use xbindkeys to keyboard shortcut everything
[01:09] <TheFishy> jeffMASTERflex, thank you so much jeffMASTERflex. you have helped me a lot
[01:09] <bod_> histo, but it says something about not being able to have network manager installed?? thats what confused and scared me
[01:09] <jeffMASTERflex> TheFishy: no prob
[01:09] <singlesun1> histo, can virtualbox run server OS's on a computer that is configured as a client and not a server though?
[01:09] <histo> bod_: yeha you just have to configure the card manually
[01:10] <histo> singlesun1: yes and they have versions for windows, linux etc...
[01:10] <histo> singlesun1: you install it and you can create emulated computers inside of any os and install any OS you want.
[01:10] <bod_> histo,  can i try the drivers first, then delete system files later?
[01:10] <histo> bod_: you're not really deleting the system files you are just telling them not to load.
[01:11] <singlesun1> histo, and you can connect to these various emulated OS's correct via another machine?
[01:11] <histo> singlesun1: yeap
[01:11] <histo> !virtualbox > singlesun1,   singlesun1 Read the private message from ubotu.
[01:11] <bod_> histo, ok,.,. can i do the changing of crucial system files later?
[01:11] <singlesun1> histo, excellent, thats much help
[01:11] <histo> singlesun1: or locally on the same machine the choice is up to you.
[01:11] <histo> singlesun1: its similiar to vmware if you are familiar with that.  Virtualbox is a free alternative.
[01:12] <Shadow6363> I'm about to reformat this hard drive to reinstall ubuntu, what would be the best option for backing up my home directory?
[01:12] <bod_> tritium, you about m8?
[01:12] <jesica> sorry, this chat is only in english?
[01:12] <singlesun1> histo, yes ;) that was my concern, vmware is not cheap
[01:12] <_coredump_> n8 liebe leutz
[01:12] <bod_> jessica, which language do you want?
[01:12] <histo> bod_: no you just edit a text file and add 2 words then install the different drivers.  If they don'[ work or you botch something up you can always edit the file and remove the entries.
[01:12] <jesica> spanish
[01:12] <jeffMASTERflex> Shadow6363: throw it into a tarball or zip it. or move it into another partition you do not plan on formatting
[01:12] <robierto> why are you reinstalling Shadow6363
[01:12] <histo> singlesun1: virtualbox is free
[01:13] <bod_> !es | jesica
[01:13] <ubotu> jesica: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:13] <jesica> thanks!
[01:13] <bod_> histo,  ok but can you gimme a walkthrough instead of that confusing/scary page?
[01:13] <bod_> jesica, no probs
[01:13] <Shadow6363> robierto: I'm running the alpha of gutsy and as such, never intended on keeping things setup as they are, just became too lazy to change it.
[01:14]  * Pelo is looking for an easy question to answer, just so he can retain his "helper" status
[01:14] <Shadow6363> jeffMASTERflex: Will that account for permissions as well as symlinks?
[01:14] <robierto> Shadow6363, can you just drag it to a usb key?
[01:14] <ta1> Wireless network is up, ubuntu can see windows machine, windows can't see ubuntu...I can access my ubuntu web server from the windows machine, but not the smb share
[01:14] <histo> bod_: The other guy with the same card will be able to help you a lot more than I ever could.
[01:14]  * bod_ thinks Pelo should help me by telling me how to make the perfect coffee
[01:14] <RequinB4> Where is a good repo for X and window themes?
[01:15] <bod_> histo,  ok ty,.,.il sit here till unop_ getss back
[01:15] <Shadow6363> robierto: sadly not, I didn't quite partition this at all so it's an 74 GB home directory
[01:15] <Pelo> bod_,   on spoonfull of coffee per cup of water Plus one for the pot
[01:15] <jeffMASTERflex> Shadow6363: sometimes the permissions get messed up. It's simple to recursivley fix them on a single folder, though
[01:15] <levander> Is there a command to make sure a CD has no unreadable scratches on it?
[01:15] <Pelo> bod_,  and don'T let it sit , just have it when it is done brewing
[01:15] <robierto> Shadow6363, tough one...
[01:15] <jeffMASTERflex> Shadow6363: i'd figure that would be the least of your problems
[01:15]  * bod_ thinks pelo should be more specific,. like the exact weight of the spoonfull,. and the temperature of the coffee
[01:16]  * bod_ temp of the water i mean
[01:16] <goudkov> hi guys. on gutsy, gnome's gnome-open doesn't launch firefox properly. if a firefox window is already open, it complains about a session. is there a way to fix it?
[01:16] <Pelo> bod_, water for percolating should be just bellow boiling (never boil coffee),   I don'T know the size of the measuring spoon,  they sell them in stores,  conical little things
[01:17] <RequinB4> Anyone know a good reposotiry of GNOME and window themes or am I have to resort to the windows version of google for random sites >.>
[01:17] <ta1> When I go to network:/// on my ubuntu machine, it isn't listed.. any idea why?
[01:17] <jeffMASTERflex> RequinB4: gnom-look
[01:17] <histo> goudkov: how are you opening this now?
[01:17] <jeffMASTERflex> gnome-look*
[01:17] <robierto> goudkov, alt+f2 -- firefox &
[01:17]  * bod_ thinks Pelo should explain the difference in taste between a coffee made with boiled water and a coffee made without boiled water
[01:17] <jesica> bod, still there?
[01:17] <Pelo> goudkov,   open the system monitor,  ( in the admin menu ) , look for firefox or firefox-bin,  kill those processes
[01:17] <bod_> jesica, yes,.,.whats up?
[01:17] <RequinB4> jeffMASTERflex - that's a package, i presume?
[01:18] <Pelo> bod_, we're getting in too deep and way too off fopic
[01:18] <jesica> this chat was opened automatically, but i cant open ubuntu-es
[01:18] <goudkov> histo: actually, it's a bigger problem. i'm using two monitors with separate x sessions. so when i try to open a url in one session, it opens it in another.
[01:18] <goudkov> i think that's the root of the problem.
[01:18] <jeffMASTERflex> RequinB4: no it's a website to download gnome themes and icon sets. if you want packages, dive into synaptic, there are a ton there also
[01:18] <bod_> Pelo, but at least you retained ur helper status ,.,.,.;)
[01:18] <RequinB4> jesica '/join #ubuntu-es'
[01:18] <bod_> jesica, #ubuntu-es
[01:18] <histo> goudkov: definately because I can open multiple firefox windows.
[01:18] <jesica> Ive tried
[01:18] <jeffMASTERflex> RequinB4: the thing is, it's very simple to install themes from the appearance settings manager
[01:19] <goudkov> histo: yep, but it launches it in the wrong session.
[01:19] <histo> jessica type /j #ubuntu-es
[01:19] <jackdaw> hey all, anyone know how to make the default subversion work with https style repositories? mine says URL scheme unknown
[01:19] <histo> goudkov: how are you launching it?
[01:20] <RequinB4> jeffMASTERflex: heh, meant by asking where i need to go to browse the goods.  And yes, I learned how great that installation process was early on
[01:20] <goudkov> histo: if i launch it from the first screen, it opens up in the second one. so if i already have firefox open in the first session and then gnome-open or just launch firefox with a url on the command line in the first session, it give an error dialog about the firefox session in the second x session.
[01:20] <jesica> WHERE! I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT UBUNTU!
[01:20] <histo> goudkov: how are you launching it?
[01:20] <Pelo> jesica, you need to go to the spanish channel ?
[01:20] <RequinB4> jesica: calm down :P  type '/join #ubuntu-es' right now
[01:20] <histo> jesica: in this window
[01:20] <RequinB4> here
[01:20] <histo> jesica: just were you typed your last message.
[01:20] <bod_> jesica, in the place where you type those words to us,.,.type    /j #ubuntu-es
[01:20] <Pelo> jesica, right wherer you type to talk to us
[01:20] <goudkov> histo: from the command line
[01:21] <jesica> lets see
[01:21] <jackdaw> hey all, anyone know how to make the default subversion work with https style repositories? mine says URL scheme unknown
[01:21] <jesica> #ubuntu-es
[01:21] <Pelo> jesica,  type  /join #ubuntu-es
[01:21] <histo> goudkov: so you have two instances of gnome running also?
[01:21] <jeffMASTERflex> jesica, tienes que darle al "/j ubuntu-es" para entrar al canal en espanol
[01:21] <goudkov> histo: yes
[01:21] <bod_> jesica,  type exactly this             /j #ubuntu-es
[01:21] <jesica> thanks!
[01:21] <histo> jesica: you forgot the /j in front of that.
[01:21] <wolferine> evenig
[01:21] <bod_> jesica, no probs
[01:21] <goudkov> histo: it used to work just fine in dapper, but something has changed.
[01:22] <Shadow6363> jeffMASTERflex robierto: thanks for the help
[01:22] <Shadow6363> exit
[01:22] <histo> goudkov: then you need to also have two gnome-terminals open one in each session to do what you are wanting to do.
[01:22] <histo> goudkov: or somehow tell it which session to launch it in.
[01:23] <histo> goudkov: Why you have two X sessions running is beyond me in the first place.
[01:23] <goudkov> histo: i just tried launching openoffice from gnome terminal in the first x session and it opened the openoffice window in the second x session
[01:23] <goudkov> histo: very convenient
[01:23] <histo> goudkov: because you're gnome-terminal is from the second x session
[01:23] <goudkov> histo: much better than running one big virtual display
[01:23] <jrib> goudkov: it opens on $DISPLAY
[01:23] <histo> goudkov: okay to each his own.
[01:24] <histo> jrib: can't you tell an app which display to open on or session?
[01:24] <bod_> goudkov, does this help,.,.,.:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54008/
[01:24] <goudkov> jrib: yep
[01:24] <histo> jrib: an X app that is
[01:24] <mkquist> anyone know, can i get a gui desktop thru ssh on a remote machine?
[01:24] <goudkov> jrib: dammit. that's right it shows :0.1 in both of them
[01:24] <jrib> histo, goudkov: DISPLAY=whatever command
[01:24] <goudkov> bod_: let me check
[01:24] <goudkov> jrib: yeah, that would fix it
[01:24] <RequinB4> mkquist: wouldn't know about ssh, but ubuntu comes equipped with VNC stuff
[01:25] <RequinB4> GUI remote desktop
[01:25] <goudkov> jrib: but why does it screw it up on startup?
[01:25] <histo> !ssh > mkquist,   mkquist Read the private message from ubotu.
[01:25] <goudkov> jrib: it works fine if i export DISPLAY=:0.0 in the first session manually
[01:25] <histo> goudkov: becuase your displays are backwards from what you are used to probably.
[01:25] <goudkov> histo: no it shows :0.1 in both of them!
[01:25] <brandon__> what would you type to mount a cd as iso9660?
[01:25] <jrib> goudkov: if you open a new terminal it should have $DISPLAY set to whichever one you opened it on
[01:25] <histo> goudkov: well thats an issue definately.
[01:26] <brandon__> dvd i mean
[01:26] <goudkov> jrib: apparently it doesn't any more in gutsy
[01:26] <robierto> mkquist, yes
[01:26] <jrib> goudkov: strange then
[01:26] <bod_> histo, im gonne go have a coffee,. and watch some tele for 10 mins,. if unop_ comes back, can u tell him il be bak soon
[01:26] <unop> bod_, i've just installed drivers from here 0 http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[01:27] <unop> bod_, i'm gonna hit the sack now ;)
[01:27] <bod_> histo, dont worry,.,.lol
[01:27] <bod_> unop, k,.,.cheers m8
[01:27] <goudkov> jrib: i launch gnome-terminal in the first session and it opens up in the first session, but DISPLAY in that terminal shows :0.1
[01:27] <robierto> mkquist, you can run a desktop remotely at speeds faster than your local machine -- provided you have high speed internet connection and a faster remote machine
[01:27] <bod_> unop,  night night
[01:27] <unop> bod_, ta m8 .. hope the drivers work alright for you :)
[01:27] <goudkov> i doubt that's the expected behavior
[01:27] <sethrd> hello hello.
[01:28] <robierto> mkquist, change your $DISPLAY to remote machine
[01:28] <bod_> unop, cheers for ur help,.,. prob speak later,.,.night
[01:28] <sethrd> Anyone have any luck with the Broadcom wireless chipset?
[01:28] <codename> Any ideas on how getting Flash working on Ubuntu 7.10
[01:28] <codename> the command or w.e
[01:28] <jrib> !flash | codename
[01:28] <ubotu> codename: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[01:28] <goudkov> yeah, if i set the DISPLAY back to :0.0 in the terminal, then firefox and everything else works correctly
[01:28] <sethrd> Heh, sticky on the forums. Nice.
[01:28] <RequinB4> !wifi | sethrd check here, ubuntu has great wifi docs
[01:28] <ubotu> sethrd check here, ubuntu has great wifi docs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:29] <TallHunkDan> thank you all guys! got it all working now.
[01:29] <TallHunkDan> you're the best!
[01:29] <bod_> unop, can you help 1 last thing plz
[01:30] <bod_> unop, if your still awake
[01:30] <jesica> bod, Im in trouble
[01:30] <goudkov> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/157708
[01:30] <bod_> jesica, why?
[01:30] <goudkov> ctap
[01:30] <goudkov> crap
[01:30] <jesica> nobody want to help me in ubuntu-es
[01:30] <bod_> jesica, whats your problem?
[01:30] <jesica> and i cant speak in english very well
[01:31] <bod_> jesica, dont worry,. just try and explain your problem
[01:31] <brandon__> how do you mount a dvd as iso9660
[01:31] <jesica> i use twinkle for phonecalls
[01:31] <bod_> jesica, ok
[01:32] <monstrfolk> what is twinkle
[01:32] <bishoy[echelon]> anyone know how to install easyubuntu on xubuntu 7.10?
[01:32] <jesica> i tried to use it right now but said 403 forbidden
[01:32] <wolferine> monstrfolk, its a VOIP phone
[01:32] <bod_> jesica, what is twinkle? I have never heard of it
[01:32] <wolferine> bod_, read above
[01:32] <viator> whats a good gui based ftp client
[01:32] <jesica> its like ekiga, do you know that?
[01:33] <bod_> wolferine, like skype?
[01:33] <bod_> jesica, skype?
[01:33] <wolferine> not really, but yes
[01:33] <bod_> wolferine, ok
[01:33] <achandrashekar> hey guys I have a sopcast streaming media player install question
[01:33] <jesica> similar
[01:33] <achandrashekar> anyone familiar with sopcast
[01:33] <wolferine> viator, filezilla
[01:33] <Eno_> how would i get the equivalent of 'use default gateway on remote network' on ubuntu? i am using a VPN and i would like my traffic to be routed through it
[01:33] <bod_> jesica, have you ever used i successfully before?
[01:33] <Eno_> i have instructions but they are for windows
[01:34] <jesica> NO
[01:34] <penguin> Can i use emerald to change how the taskbars look?
[01:34] <quaal> does ubuntu allow you to connect to the gnome login screen through vnc?
[01:34] <achandrashekar> Eno_: you want to use the box as a gateway to the internet ?
[01:34] <bod_> jesica, ok, it sounds like, either port blocking or network permissions. I dont know much about them but il ask around
[01:35] <jesica> oh yes, sorry
[01:35] <adante_> after i kill an app the port is locked for quite a long time afterwards
[01:35] <adante_> is there a way i can stop it from locking it?
[01:35] <jesica> until last sunday
[01:35] <bod_> guys if im tryng to use an internet fone and iget an error:403 forbidden   what should i do
[01:35] <_|vkarl|_> Hi, anyone can helpme, yesterday i have installated ubuntu, but today, it don't enter to gnome. back to login screen. What can i do?
[01:35] <mkquist> ty to whomever had ubotu pm me.. =)
[01:35] <jackdaw> allo, how do i get svn to checkout from http repos i.e sourceforge the default built doesn't
[01:35] <achandrashekar> Eno_: box 1 -----> box_2 (connected to internet) ----> internet??
[01:35] <bod_> jesica, what has changed since last sunday?
[01:35] <Eno_> achandrashekar: yeah, i think so
[01:35] <jesica> no changes
[01:36] <bishoy[echelon]> anyone know how to install easyubuntu on xubuntu 7.10?
[01:36] <Eno_> achandrashekar: http://www.noc.ucf.edu/VPN/default_gw.htm
[01:36] <jesica> :/
[01:36] <RequinB4> jesica: que es su programa del telefono
[01:36] <Eno_> achandrashekar: i want to do this
[01:36] <ta1> Ok, now I can access my ubuntu box from my windows machine but only by IP.. it doesn't show up in network I have to type it in manually
[01:36] <bod_> jesica, have you tried rebooting and trying again? resetting your internet router? reinstalling tickle?
[01:36] <jesica> i dont have router
[01:36] <RequinB4> bod_ tickle?
[01:37] <RequinB4> or tinkle?
[01:37] <RequinB4> (i'm googling)
[01:37] <bod_> RequinB4, skype type thing apparently
[01:37] <bod_> RequinB4, oh yer tinkle
[01:37] <jackdaw> anyone?
[01:37] <jesica> im stealing my neighbor
[01:37] <jesica> :)
[01:37] <Strangelet> I have Ubuntu installed on one partition, I am currently installing OpenGEU on another. I wish to put all my logs recorded by Pidgin together in a third partition I use to share my media. I cannot find the option to change the directory, could anyone give me a hand?
[01:37] <jesica> ive tried again, but i couldnt
[01:38] <bod_> jesica, RequinB4 is googleing your problem,.im afraid i cant help
[01:38] <jesica> what means tickle?
[01:38] <bod_> jesica, sorry i meant tinkle
[01:38] <wolferine> jesica, what are you trying to do?
[01:38] <jesica> aaaah twinkle
[01:38] <wolferine> please, ask in one line thanks
[01:38] <KyleJohnson> what file do I edit to change screen resolution?
[01:38] <bod_> wolferine, error:403 forbidden ,,.when using tinkle
[01:39] <RequinB4> jesica: twinkle es su programa del telefono?
[01:39] <achandrashekar> Eno_: your question is a bit confusing..One type of connection "shares" the internet with other nodes in your network. The other is where, you connect to a network outside of yours, that is firewalled but you have a VPN to. Which one?
[01:39] <wolferine> bod_, is it you or jesica that is having the issue?
[01:39] <RequinB4> jesica
[01:39] <jesica> sorry but, who is talking to me
[01:39] <KyleJohnson> got a new monitor and I can't see anything once x starts
[01:39] <walrus> hi, how can i implement some nice small res text mode on my sys ??
[01:39] <bod_> wolferine, jesica, but i was expplaining her problem
[01:40] <jesica> oh sorry
[01:40] <bod_> jesica, wolferine is trying to talk to you (i think)
[01:40] <robierto> Strangelet, edit ~/.purple/prefs.xml with a text editor change <pref name='log_directory' type='string' value="YOUR DIRECTORY"
[01:40]  * bod_ says im off for a bit ,.,.bye
[01:40] <achandrashekar> Eno_: If all you wanna do is connect to a VPN, then its built into ubuntu's network manager and will allow you to connect to a VPN network. :)
[01:40] <jesica> i cant see him
[01:41] <jesica> thanks bod
[01:41] <bruenig> walrus, do what
[01:41] <walrus> my monitor displays very big text on my ubuntu-server, is there a way to make it look smaller ??
[01:41] <Eno_> achandrashekar: well, right now i have the cisco vpnclient that i can run and i can connect to their private network. but i need be able to connect to other websites and have them think i am on their network
[01:41] <wolferine> jesica, when someone uses your nick, it will appear highlighted in the channel. if you look to the left of the comment, you will see 'who' is speaking
[01:41] <billenium> How can i make my Ubuntu look like Mac without using Beryl?
[01:41] <klos> my cpu runs at 64* C whilst idling
[01:41] <walrus> bruenig: i meant console mode text (bash)
[01:41] <klos> thats a lot :-/
[01:41] <bruenig> walrus, the command is setfont I thought
[01:42] <Eno_> achandrashekar: i.e. netlibrary website only allows me to access resources when i am on the school network
[01:42] <RequinB4> jesica - http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.checkupdown.com%2Fstatus%2FE403.html&langpair=en%7Ces&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
[01:42] <jesica> im learning to use this chat, ubuntu and this lenguage :)
[01:42] <achandrashekar> Eno_: okay...ALL of those configurations are part of the vpn client built into the network manager package...give me one sec and Ill tell you what i installed to connect to my vpn at work.
[01:42] <walrus> bruenig: r u sure?? im talking about plain vesa text, no X at all ...
[01:42] <bruenig> walrus, yes, for the vc
[01:42] <bruenig> s
[01:42] <lufis> I'm having a bunch of instances of vino-session show up in my process list, eating about 1 meg of memory each. I haven't used vnc for more than a week and have rebooted since... why are these clients lingering?
[01:43] <walrus> bruenig: thx, i will try that =)
[01:43] <bruenig> walrus, syntax is setfont whatever -c /dev/vc/1
[01:43] <bruenig> or whatever number
[01:43] <bruenig> -C*
[01:43] <walrus> bruenig: thank u
[01:43] <wolferine> jesica, your using twinkle, do you have an 'account' setup that you can connect to ( on a VOIP provider) ?
[01:44] <jesica> voxalot?
[01:44] <achandrashekar> Eno_: Mine appears to a a pptp one..but im sure a search + synaptic will let you install it - I used network-manager-pptp
[01:44] <achandrashekar> Eno_: and it had all of the configs..including let me use their gateway.
[01:44] <jesica> wolferine, voxalt?
[01:45] <achandrashekar> Eno_: errrmm...let me rephrase that..it was all gui based that is.
[01:45] <wolferine> jesica, first, use my nick when replying, second, its a 'yes' or 'no' answer
[01:45] <Nergar> how do i set the BIOS clock from ubuntu?
[01:45] <jesica> wolferine, yes
[01:45] <nerdriot> i have a total noob question... has anyone here managed to get 3D rendering to work properly on games with a VIA Unichrome video card? games even as "simple" as SuperTuxKart freeze on me
[01:46] <Eno_> achandrashekar: i have this IPsec one in the network manager. i enter all the info and such, and asks me for a password, but it never seems to get 'enabled'
[01:46]  * RequinB4 notes that voxalot is an internet phone company
[01:46] <RyanPrior> When I try to access the "Network" page via nautilus, it says "Cannot display network:///" -- anybody have a suggestion?
[01:46] <Eno_> achandrashekar: the vpnclient cisco command line one is the only one that has worked for me
[01:46] <wolferine> jesica, can you ping their addess? they should give you information when you setup the account, 'ping <address>' in a terminal
[01:46] <mikkko> !whois me
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whois me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <achandrashekar> Eno_: strange..indeed.....does a tail -f /var/log/messages...while you try and connect say anything the log files?
[01:47] <jesica> wolferine, said the number Ive called could not be connected, tried again
[01:48] <wolferine> jesica, are you connected (registered) with the VOIP provider?
[01:48] <jesica> wolferine, i think
[01:48] <achandrashekar> Eno_: im trying to find where the good old log files are written. my guess is /var/log/messages.
[01:48] <jesica> wolferine, i called the last week
[01:48] <doofus123> hello. i have an Intel E6750 cpu. does it matter whether i get the i386 version or the amd64 version?
[01:48] <Eno_> hmm..nop
[01:49] <jesica> wolferine, i had no problem
[01:49] <wolferine> jesica, so you have used the      service, thats a good start
[01:49] <achandrashekar> doofus123: is that intel??
[01:49] <doofus123> achandrashekar yes
[01:49] <wolferine> jesica, can you please tell me what your problem is then ?
[01:49] <achandrashekar> doofus123: coreduo??
[01:49] <doofus123> achandrashekar: yes
[01:49] <jesica> wolferine, it already dont work
[01:49] <doofus123> achandrashekar: sorry, core 2 duo
[01:50] <achandrashekar> doofus123: the latest version installs the smp kernel by default
[01:50] <jesica> wolferine, when i try to call appear 403 forbidden
[01:50] <wolferine> jesica, this is the last time, please describe your problem, else Icannot help you
[01:50] <achandrashekar> doofus123: so there you are ....:)
[01:50] <achandrashekar> doofus123: i386 is what i installed
[01:50] <Eno_> achandrashekar: how do i figure out the gateway ip address i want, if i were to do it via the command line? ie. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606465
[01:50] <jesica> wolferine, ive tried with different numbers
[01:50] <achandrashekar> doofus123: i did the same search a while ago
[01:51] <doofus123> achandrashekar: i see. thank you. i was wondering if its the version's problem since i cant get it to install on my new build.
[01:51] <jesica> wolferine, please, be patient, im lost
[01:51] <achandrashekar> Eno: route - n
[01:51] <wolferine> jesica, please explain what your issue is, what you have done so far to fix it, im not just going to guess what the issue is, and send you on your merry way
[01:51] <achandrashekar> it will show you there...
[01:51] <wolferine> jesica, what is your language you speak, maybe another room might help
[01:51] <achandrashekar> Eno: you can also change it just for the session you are connected
[01:52] <jesica> wolferine, nobody wanted to help me in ubuntu-es
[01:52] <wolferine> jesica, maybe you just need to be patient, as the language barrier just isnt working for me
[01:52] <Linuxishawt> Is there an issue with installing flashplugin-nonfree, I keep getting a md5sum mismatch and flash doesn't get installed but the package manager says that it does?
[01:53] <jesica> wolferine, nobody answered me, please dont leave me
[01:53] <wolferine> jesica, your not helping yourself, nothing I can do about that
[01:53] <RequinB4> wolferine - i've offered to try and translate what i can but i've been ignored >.>
[01:53] <wolferine> jesica, are you registered with your VOIP provider ?
[01:53] <wolferine> too bad RequinB4 :(
[01:54] <Shpook> !flash
[01:54] <jesica> wolferine, yes. Voxalot
[01:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[01:54] <achandrashekar> Eno_: that was route -n
[01:54] <wolferine> jesica, ok, so your registered, do you have access to your account? logs of calls yu have made?
[01:54] <jesica> wolferine, yes
[01:55] <wolferine> jesica, and what does your account tell you about your service, is it up and working ?
[01:55] <iKap> whats the cd/dvd burner app in xubuntu?
[01:56] <Shpook> I booted up and got a error about gnome-settings-manager or something, and now my lower menu panel is stuck at the top of the screen. How can I get it back to the bottom?
[01:56] <pure`eigenVector> would like to troubleshoot a gnome login issue in ubuntu, should I start here or the forums?
[01:57] <jesica> wolferine, ive forgotten where to see that information
[01:57] <Eno_> $ sudo ip route change default via 132.170.0.10
[01:57] <Eno_> RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[01:58] <wolferine> jesica, www.voxalot.com
[01:59] <th0r> my system log times do not agree with either hwclock or date...the logs are one hour later than either. Does anyone know the source of the system log times or a possible reason for the discrepancy?
[01:59] <Eno_> achandrashekar: it doesn't seem to be working, the ip command :(
[01:59] <Eno_> i don't know how to use it
[01:59] <jesica> wolferine, iam there,
[02:00] <achandrashekar> Eno_: the route -n command??
[02:00] <wolferine> jesica, i dont need a play-by-play, answers are enough
[02:00] <Eno_> achandrashekar: no, that works fine. i mean the ip route change default via 1.2.4.5
[02:00] <achandrashekar> En0_:  oh...changing the default gw one sec
[02:00] <zamo> is there some chanel in spanish?
[02:00] <pure`eigenVector> anyone know the best place to look for a blank post-login screen in gnome?
[02:00] <th0r> !es
[02:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:01]  * Dr_willis has to think about the phrase post-login screen....
[02:01] <zamo> thanks
[02:01] <achandrashekar> Eno_: try this as sudo su - route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0
[02:01] <paradizelost> hey all. i'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 on an NVIDIA SATA RAID
[02:01] <paradizelost> and the partitioner is only seeing the individual drives, not the stripe that's already there
[02:01] <wolferine> paradizelost, keep the posts to one line, if possible
[02:01] <paradizelost> wolferine umm it was
[02:01] <Dr_willis> pure`eigenVector,  you mean to say that GDM works - but the actual gnome desktop fails to startup? nothing at all?
[02:02] <wolferine> paradizelost, maybe you dont understand what that means
[02:02] <achandrashekar> Eno_: what part is that??  I must have missed that part
[02:02] <pure`eigenVector> Dr_willis: thats correct, the first time I boot up the box, I can login and gnome desktop works fine... if I log out and try to log in, it logs me in, but I get no desktop.  Just mouse, and brown screen.
[02:02] <paradizelost> anyone know what i need to do to get the installer to see the raid stripe?
[02:03] <Breakage> Hi, how can I make a init.d script to startup in X to disable mouse accel system wide on startup? i'd like to add "xset m 0 0".
[02:03] <paradizelost> wolferine you posted your message the same second as my 2nd part
[02:03] <wolferine> paradizelost, as there was no question initially
[02:03] <paradizelost> !NVRAID
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <paradizelost> !680i
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 680i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Breakage> !deamon
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deamon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <paradizelost> Breakage it's daemon
[02:04] <Breakage> !daemon
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Breakage> ^^
[02:04] <RequinB4> !msgthebot
[02:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:04] <soldats> Breakage, you can set your mouse acceleration in the settings then save sessions and restart and it should be the same everytime
[02:05] <Ububegin> Daemon read it here-----------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computer_software%29
[02:05] <Breakage> soldats: hey :) i've done it in startup app's but i'd prefer to do it system wide instead of doing settings for xfce and flux etc
[02:05] <soldats> Breakage, ahh my bad
[02:05] <box-> any idea why ubuntu will not boot up on a dell e530 E6650 Dual Core 2.33 1gb ram 500gb satahd Nvidia 8600 GT video ??
[02:06] <Dr_willis> pure`eigenVector,  thats very weird. try making a new user, see if it also affects them.
[02:06] <Breakage> soldats, np man. Ububegin: thanks :)
[02:06] <wolferine> box-, could be quite a few # of things
[02:06] <s0nix> hi
[02:06] <s0nix> how can i fix this: mount: /dev/hdc6 already mounted or /media/Rise busy
[02:06] <pure`eigenVector> Dr_willis: k will do, thanks.
[02:06] <Ububegin> box: use LiveCD... might help to find prob
[02:06] <wolferine> box-, what have you tried to troubleshoot, where is it failing, what errors do you receive ?
[02:07] <wolferine> box-, by boot, do you mean your doing a new install? or was it working before?
[02:07] <Aloha> whats the multiverse?
[02:07] <wolferine> bigger than the universe Aloha
[02:07] <Dr_willis> s0nix,  fix what? Its saying its mounted at /media/Rise - whats the problem.
[02:08] <paradizelost> I am unable to get the installer to see my RAID0 on my NVidia 680i motherboard. I have existing data on the stripe set, and cannot break it. does anyone know what i need  to do to get it working?
[02:08] <s0nix> Dr_willis: it say busy....... and i can't access to the data
[02:08] <s0nix> no file in "ls"
[02:08] <tcm_> s0nix: umount /dev/hdc6
[02:08] <tcm_> ?
[02:08] <s0nix> and umount tell me: unmounted
[02:08] <Dr_willis> s0nix,  try  'sudo ls /media/Rise'
[02:08] <Dr_willis> s0nix,  was this a removeable usb drive?
[02:08] <s0nix> nothing with sudo ls...
[02:09] <s0nix> a real partition
[02:09] <tcm_> what does df say?
[02:09] <linux4909> hello all
[02:09] <s0nix> nothing about this disk
[02:09] <linux4909> i need help with setting up VMWare.
[02:09] <s0nix> umount: /dev/hdc6: not mounted
[02:09] <linux4909> well really ineed to know how to install it.
[02:10] <linux4909> i just got a trial from the website
[02:10] <linux4909> and all i see is folder and files. idont know how to install a .tar files or where to save them so i can install the ssoftware
[02:10] <tcm_> tried to do a reboot?
[02:10] <linux4909> i only know how to use Add/Remove
[02:10] <linux4909> i am running 710
[02:11] <heartsblood> every time I run apt I get an error saying "sh: /usr/sbin/update-dpsyco: not found"  How do I get fix it?  I've already apt-get removed dpsyco, I dont want it.
[02:11] <heartsblood> how do I get rid of the error*
[02:11] <jeffMASTERflex> linux4909: I recommend you use virtualbox instead of install a tar binary from vmware. it will save you a lot of time and virtualbox is pretty good
[02:11] <linux4909> okay
[02:11] <linux4909> thanks
[02:12] <s0nix> tcm_, sure
[02:12] <linux4909> i was just reading the comparison online too
[02:12] <linux4909> is there any difference in productivity or speed b/n them?
[02:12] <paradizelost> linux4909 i greatly prefer the featureset of vmware over virtualbox, but it depends on which version of vmware you are using
[02:13] <jesica> wolferine, Im sorry. Im completely lost. I cant find it. Thanks for everything
[02:13] <wolferine> jesica, email your provider
[02:13] <linux4909> paradise, i am using vmware 5
[02:14] <theteacher> hi all. i have 5 PC running ubuntu. what should i add to "/etc/apt/source.list" to make others pc getting update from "/home/username/localrepo" in PC no 1?
[02:14] <linux4909> well, i'm not usign it, just trying to install it.
[02:14] <paradizelost> linux4909 workstation? just ot make sure
[02:14] <linux4909> but it's what i have
[02:14] <linux4909> yes
[02:15] <linux4909> what i dont understand is, i see files and a folder that says installer
[02:15] <linux4909> but no exe to begin installation
[02:15] <paradizelost> linux4909 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Workstation
[02:15] <linux4909> thanx
[02:15] <linux4909> once more thing, can i try vmware and virtual box together
[02:15] <linux4909> or one at a time?
[02:15] <paradizelost> should be able to have both installed
[02:15] <linux4909> like go a week with VB then a week with VM
[02:15] <linux4909> okay
[02:15] <linux4909> i want to compare and see the difference
[02:16] <wolferine> !enter | linux4909
[02:16] <ubotu> linux4909: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:16] <s0nix> tcm_ no idea? :|
[02:16] <ironhawk> linu4909 -- dont tell me your trying to use a printer under xp running in vbox in ubuntu?
[02:16] <linux4909> one more thing before i begin
[02:16] <linux4909> do i have to use vm player to  run vm ware wrkstation?
[02:16] <ironhawk> linux4909 -- I've been killing myself for the last three days trying to get that to work.
[02:16] <paradizelost> linux4909 no, workstation does that for you.
[02:16] <dduong> linux4909:  you can do anything that you want :)  I went from VM to VB.  Tried them both and VB is more comfortable for me so I stuck with it
[02:16] <box-> wolferine : using livecd and what i was meaning was i put livecd in boot from the cd itself it seems to start loading normal then without getting an error it goes into some type of terminal mode and tells me to type help for more help
[02:16] <nomasteryoda> vb is good
[02:16] <tech0007> question: can I setup a usb wifi adapter as access point? i mean not using a router?
[02:16] <theteacher> hi all. i have 5 PC running ubuntu. what should i add to "/etc/apt/source.list" to make others pc getting update from "/home/username/localrepo" in PC no 1?
[02:17] <paradizelost> linux4909 i do recommend workstation 6 though, it has USB2 support and more
[02:17] <linux4909> so ubotu
[02:17] <linux4909> *sorry ubotu
[02:17] <wolferine> box-, so a new install, use the Alt. CD to install then
[02:17] <paradizelost> linux4909 ubotu is a bot
[02:17] <norv> I personally like VBox, as far as systems which don't need device support
[02:17] <nomasteryoda> paradizelost, so does vb
[02:17] <Linuxishawt> I have a quick question, I have a ton of file files and I want to extract them all in to one directory, can anyone help with the command to do that? I checked out the man page for gunzip didn't help me out
[02:17] <linux4909> oh
[02:17] <paradizelost> nomasteryoda how bout multiple snapshots
[02:17] <dduong> I love Vbox's seamless mode...
[02:17] <linux4909> okay
[02:17] <ironhawk> Stupid question -- I've got two ubuntu installs. One doesnt'
[02:17] <paradizelost> dduong i will give you seamless being awesome
[02:17] <nomasteryoda> yup... i have been doing those ... i have 12 snapshots of xp
[02:18] <linux4909> vbox, seems to get more love, so i will try that first. then vm next week
[02:18] <norv> know if X supports the 'pressure' on some tablets?
[02:18] <nomasteryoda> in vb
[02:18] <dduong> paradizelost lol
[02:18] <nomasteryoda> norv, in inkscape and gimp... i have done that
[02:18] <nomasteryoda> wacom tablet support is in ubuntu xorg
[02:18] <nomasteryoda> by default
[02:18] <linux4909> hey thanks to all that replied, and thanx for the link
[02:19] <ironhawk> Stupid question -- I've got two ubuntu installs. One doesnt't require me to enter my password when sudoing and the other does -- can anyone tell me how I can disbale the password prompt? I have the line sudo ALL=NOPASSWS: ALL in my /etc/sudoers file but doesn't seem to do the trick..
[02:19] <dduong> linux4909:  If you need anymore help, feel free to come back :)
[02:19] <nomasteryoda> good luck...... you can get free virtual machine images from vmware site.. to test linux4909
[02:19] <norv> nomasteryoda: ah, nice. I was thinking about getting one of those
[02:19] <wolferine> Ironhand, thats covered in the 'ubuntu guide' ( great resource) give it a google
[02:20] <ironhawk> wolferine : It's a bird -- not hand... hehehe..
[02:20] <linux4909> nomasteryoda: what are images?
[02:20] <nomasteryoda> virtual machines
[02:20] <nomasteryoda> in single files
[02:20] <wolferine> ironhawk, sorry, auto completion :)
[02:20] <linux4909> is that what i need if i dont have the windows cd?
[02:20] <norv> ironhawk: well, you only have to enter your password once and sudo remembers for quite a while. I'd assume turning it off completely would be fairly dangerous
[02:20] <wolferine> !enter | nomasteryoda
[02:20] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:20] <ironhawk> wolferine : I'll check it out.. just seems to be something beyond sudoers that's prompting...
[02:21] <nomasteryoda> linux4909, there is a exporter for virtualmachines on the vmware website ... ok i
[02:21] <wolferine> Ironhand, i know its covered in the Edgy guide, if you cannot find it in Gutsy
[02:21] <nomasteryoda> darn it... i have a bad keyboard and don't mean to do that ... i will type my books faster
[02:21] <linux4909> nomasteryoda: so you can actually upload your machine for others to use?(image)
[02:22] <norv> is there a way to get virtualbox to boot off of a hard disk, or is that risky?
[02:22] <nomasteryoda> if it is opensource, sure you can that's up to you... i was working on one complete with free creative commons music that has ampache music server on it
[02:22] <linux4909> nomasteryoda: i wont bother you, i'll google from here. but thanx to you and the others.
[02:22] <nomasteryoda> k
[02:24] <linux4909> am back, i have another question. take a looksee at this link http://www.vmware.com/appliances/ is that what you mean by images? they call them appliances on the site
[02:24] <nomasteryoda> linux4909, this has all the "appliances" vmware has...
[02:24] <nomasteryoda> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/ .. .intentional line break
[02:24] <ironhawk> So anyone have any suggestions as to how to get a usb printer to work in virtual box? I have xp in a vbox and it doens't recognize my usb ports.. I tried doing the fstab trick / adding the usbfs group but still doesn't seem to work
[02:24] <bnalohim> hi.. I have a problem with my sound.. i am a newby and i dont undertand what is happening.. midi files dosnt reproduce well, it may be de timidity... also i cant start jack as a client
[02:24] <vinz_> #batam
[02:25] <nomasteryoda> ironhawk, you could share the printer on the host and access it via samba shares or ipp
[02:25] <mheath> 3
[02:25] <linux4909> one more question, if i have a virtual machine of windows. could i save files and access them with my Ubuntu?
[02:25] <mheath> erm, sorry :-)
[02:25] <Dr_willis> linux4909,  yes - thats doable. in several ways.
[02:26] <linux4909> sweet!
[02:26] <ironhawk> nomasteryoda : hehehe -- crap -- never thought of that?! Gonna give it a shot.. Not sure if this hp installer lets you do it but I'll try it..
[02:26] <Dr_willis> linux4909,  you can set up shared directories. or use ssh. or the same as you would 2 networked machines.
[02:26] <linux4909> what is better as far as configurations? VM or VB? i ask because im a beginner
[02:27] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want. I tend to use vmware
[02:27] <norv> linux4909: VB is simpler to set up
[02:27] <rainwalker> is it safe to update xserver-xorg-core yet? I've held off for fear of breaking graphics
[02:27] <linux4909> okay. i want what is simpler.
[02:27] <linux4909> thank you all.
[02:28] <linux4909> wait, sorry. should i get VB fro mthe web or in my add/remove?
[02:28] <rainwalker> linux4909: just a personal preference, but I always search synaptic first by default
[02:28] <pawan> hi
[02:29] <norv> linux4909: use synaptic or adept, don't get OSE if you care about USB pass through devices and other stuff
[02:29] <proq> !mime
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <nomasteryoda> ironhawk, if its in a linux host, ubuntu for sure can do it... i share my main printer here for my netowrk...
[02:29] <paradizelost> when booting to the i386 7.10 livecd, during the boot process, it drops to a busybox shell, and just sits there. how do i get it to boot all the way?
[02:29] <proq> how do I add new file-handler types to firefox? there's no UI and apropos doesn't turn up anything either
[02:29] <theteacher> hi all. i have 5 PC running ubuntu. what should i add to "/etc/apt/source.list" to make others pc getting update from "/home/username/localrepo" in PC no 1?
[02:29] <linux4909> norv: i have OSE is there a version ov VB w/o OSE
[02:29] <ironhawk> nomasteryoda : through /etc/exports?
[02:30] <nomasteryoda> i just use the gui
[02:30] <norv> linux4909: oh right, nonfree so you'd have to get it manually I think
[02:31] <linux4909> get what manually? i have it from synaptics, but i want to use USB though.
[02:31] <ironhawk> nomasteryoda : yah, found a checkbox to share .. hrmm -- I'm more concerned about the xp driver install -- not sure if it allows you to connect to a remote printer cuz it's a usb only.
[02:31] <Dr_willis> theteacher,  there are some apt tools that  allow one machine to be the main apt 'cache' - the way you are doing it - is  proberly not a good idea.
[02:31] <achandrashekar> anyone know which irc server joomla lives? - i tried freenode..but nope \
[02:32] <linux4909> norv: i want to use USB though. will VMware work with USB? and is VB used more by the open source community as opposed to VM?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> apt-cacher - caching proxy system for Debian package and source files
[02:33] <theteacher> Dr_willis, thx. so how the good idea?
[02:33] <norv> linux4909: err, what sort of USB device?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> theteacher,  ------------> apt-cacher - caching proxy system for Debian package and source files
[02:33] <theteacher> Dr_willis, is it here http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/01/18/use-apt-cacher-to-save-bandwidth-multiple-pcs
[02:33] <Dr_willis> theteacher,  theres other ways also. I recall the apt manual mentioned some
[02:34] <linux4909> norv: WD Passport and a WD My Book and a USB.
[02:34] <linux4909> norv: basically storage devices only. and i have a printer
[02:34] <linux4909> norv: but that's all
[02:34] <Dr_willis> theteacher,  last i uses apt-cacheer  it did not 'cache' things in the users home dir. :) it keep things in /var/cache/apt  like normal.
[02:34] <linux4909> can mac osx be ran on a vb?
[02:35] <norv> linux4909: err, now that's trickier
[02:35] <linux4909> norv: what is, the storage devices or the printer? i dont care for the printer cuz i can transfer the files and print in ubuntu
[02:35] <norv> linux4909: Virtualbox pretends to be a very generic PC, so no unless you get OS X to work on a generic PC first
[02:36] <theteacher> Dr_willis, the how to please?
[02:36] <norv> linux4909: the OS X is tricky. storage devices should be easy to share to Windows in virtualbox
[02:36] <xenthro> Q: im screwing around with my usb wifi dongle and measuring signal strength. What I want to do is see it change in realtime, or, just make iwconfig run 10x/second for 5 mins. any ideas?
[02:36] <norv> linux4909: I personally just share my /media for that
[02:36] <linux4909> norv: okay, well scratch the OSX. i'll start of with windows. one question, do i HAVE to have the windows cd to install? or can i download the virtual machine?
[02:36] <ouellettesr> how do I axytract tar.gz from command line ? tar -xvf ?
[02:37] <linux4909> norv: will i be able to go online with the vir.mach?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> theteacher,  install apt-cacher. check its docs. and google for tutorials. You basically change the other machines apt/sources.list file to point to the main caching server
[02:38] <norv> linux4909: if it's not in virtualbox's format, you need to roll your own image. which requires a physical CD or an .iso to boot from
[02:38] <Billy> linux4909, you will need your windows CD
[02:38] <Billy> linux4909, and yes you can go online ..........
[02:38] <linux4909> i have the windows cd.
[02:38] <Billy> linux4909, you can even run a server
[02:38] <theteacher> Dr_willis, thx. on the way.
[02:38] <linux4909> will my recovery cd work or do i have to have a full windows Cd. i have the one that came with my gateway
[02:39] <slugone> what is the CLI command for taking a screenshot in 5 seconds
[02:39] <Dr_willis>   /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/circles
[02:39] <slugone> first answer gets a beer
[02:39] <norv> linux4909: most recovery CDs don't have enough data to do a clean re-install, no
[02:39] <nemilar> sleep 5s ; gnome-screenshot
[02:39] <linux4909> Billy: i'm not that advanced yet. i dont know anything about servers
[02:39] <dduong> linux4909: I think you'll need a full windows cd.
[02:39] <nemilar> slugone: ^^^, where's my beer please
[02:39] <slugone> thank you
[02:40] <linux4909> okay so i will have to do a clean install
[02:40] <Billy> linux4909, doesn't hurt trying it our ...... pop the CD in and let it roll .......
[02:40] <ironhawk> Hey, so maybe I'm trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist -- reason I want to print from my XP os running in virtual box is cuz I wasn't sure that I'd get good quality printing photos from somethnig like GIMP.. Is this a real concern? I've been a photoshop user for like 15 years now so that's why I'm trying to run it all in a VM on linux-- if I can print with the same quality in linux then I'm sold... I'm only talking about 8x10's
[02:40] <linux4909> gotchya thankx
[02:40] <slugone> whats ure postal code and address :P
[02:40] <ouellettesr> Hello how do I extract tar.gz from command line ? tar -xvf ?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> ouellettesr,  or use the 'unp' command. :)
[02:40] <norv> ironhawk: no, printing quality is based on the driver and generally CUPS is as good as any
[02:40] <Billy> linux4909, right now I have 8 different OS installed ....... I am using VMware
[02:40] <slugone> thank you
[02:40] <czr> ouellettesr, if it is compressed, add z. tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
[02:40] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[02:40] <nemilar> lol, hey don't tell a man you'll send him free beer if you ain't gonna pull through with it
[02:40] <ubotu> unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[02:40] <nemilar> slugone: no prob
[02:40] <heartsblood> ouellettesr, tar -x(etract)v(erbose)z(unzip)f(ile) blah.tar.gz
[02:40] <Cpudan80> ouellettesr: yes, tar -xvf
[02:40] <linux4909> but Vb i heard is easier to configure
[02:41] <Dr_willis> x for extract v for verbose. f for file...
[02:41] <ouellettesr> cool thanks guys
[02:41] <Dr_willis> z for gzip
[02:41] <linux4909> Billy: can you print and use USB from those OS?
[02:41] <norv> ironhawk: what printer manufacturer?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> j for bzip2 I think.... :)
[02:41] <nemilar> Dr_willis: correct
[02:41] <ironhawk> linux4909 : i've ran both for a while now and VBOX kicks vmware's ass in my opinion..
[02:41] <Cpudan80> Dr_willis: bzip2, boo
[02:41] <Dr_willis> which is why i cheat and use unp :)
[02:41] <patogen> Is there some player that will let you fast forward asf files? It gets all blurry ...
[02:41] <patogen> I know the files doesn't do this in wimp
[02:41] <ironhawk> norv: it's a hp photosmart 3110..
[02:41] <Cpudan80> ironhawk: Can you convert between the two?
[02:42] <Billy> linux4909, VMware installation is very easy ......... just choose all default options ........ do some reading in the forums too
[02:42] <pure`eigenVector> is there a terminal command I can use to list out the currently installed restricted drivers?
[02:42] <ouellettesr> -xvf wasn't working for me, -xzvf did it
[02:42] <nemilar> ironhawk: you having printing problems or somethin?
[02:42] <norv> linux4909: you can if the OSes support printing via samba/ipp
[02:42] <Billy> linux4909, yes you can use your USB devices just like you use them in windows ........
[02:42] <Dr_willis> I have had major issues with virtualbox on some of my test cases..  - I do tend to only test live cd's however.. vbox has failed to boot several that vmware booted fine
[02:42] <ironhawk> Cpudan80 : that I dont know.. just prefer vbox..
[02:42] <heartsblood> patogen, I dont know what you're using to do that but I recomend either vlc or mplayer
[02:42] <Billy> linux4909, I use samba for file sharing though ........
[02:42] <norv> ironhawk: look for the cups drivers for that
[02:42] <pure`eigenVector> nvm, found it: restricted-manager --list
[02:42] <nemilar> the cups driver or the hp driver will work good for that printer, either one is great
[02:43] <nemilar> HP printers have such good linux support, I love it
[02:43] <patogen> heartsblood: vlc ... you think mplayer might work?
[02:43] <norv> linux4909: you can add media to samba and instant USB-storage sharing
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> crimsun:  Are you available?
[02:43] <czr> Dr_willis, of all the x86-emulators, vmware is the most complete (especially in corner cases)
[02:43] <RyanPrior> When I try to access the "Network" page via nautilus, it says "Cannot display network:///" -- anybody have a suggestion?
[02:43] <ironhawk> norv : Yah, I can print in linux now, just wasn't conviced I'd be able to print photos.. I'll take that route first before I try to solve this print issue from xp running in vbox.. thanks dude..
[02:43] <Billy> RyanPrior, what are you trying to access ? Samba shares ?
[02:43] <RyanPrior> Billy: Nothing. Just the "Network" page.
[02:44] <heartsblood> patogen, try mplayer -vo x11 (file) or mplayer -vo g11 (file)
[02:44] <Billy> RyanPrior, you using 8.04 ?
[02:44] <nemilar> ironhawk: if its one of those specialty printers with all the gizmos, you might prefer the hp drivers to the cups drivers
[02:44] <patogen> heartsblood: ok thank you :)
[02:44] <linux4909> norv: wow, i dont know what samba is.
[02:44] <norv> ironhawk: yeah, you'll have to set samba printer sharing up for that, and I don't know enough to help you in that
[02:44] <ironhawk> norv : just had a kid 5 days ago and I have terabytes (well, maybe a couple of megs) of photos to print! hehe..
[02:44] <RyanPrior> Billy: Yes, but no response from #ubuntu+1 for hours. Is that a know bug in Hardy?
[02:44] <heartsblood> patogen, sorry that's mplayer -vo gl blah.asf not g11
[02:44] <nemilar> congradulations @ ironhawk !!
[02:44] <Billy> RyanPrior, that's a bug in 8.04 ....... yes
[02:45] <RyanPrior> Billy: Crap. Any workaround?
[02:45] <Billy> yes
[02:45] <Billy> just put the location
[02:45] <Billy> put SMB:/// for samba
[02:45] <linux4909> should i run XP or Vista?
[02:45] <linux4909> in VM?
[02:45] <xenthro> xp
[02:45] <RyanPrior> Billy: How about for SSH/SCP?
[02:45] <Billy> linux4909, you can run whatever ....... shoot ...... run both
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> RyanPrior: I know you have been waiting a long time for help in +1 but that is the place you need to go for those answers
[02:45] <exneo> hey how do I change the3 boot screen in gutsy
[02:45] <Pici> RyanPrior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/185756
[02:45] <exneo> not the splash
[02:45] <kbrooks> linux4909, vista is too new to expect to work in a VM
[02:45] <exneo> but the boot
[02:46] <linux4909> okay, i will do XP
[02:46] <kbrooks> linux4909, so if u try it dont be surprised if it doesnt work
[02:46] <xenthro> linux4909 vista in vm is experimental and vista itself is uselessly bloated. go for win2k if possible and winxp if necesary but avoid vista
[02:46] <ironhawk> norv : I can share the printer no probs via cups server -- was just a checkbox -- just printed from my laptop which works great.. Gonna try out some photos and see how we go.. thanks for your help..
[02:46] <exneo> so what
[02:46] <exneo> how do I
[02:46] <GeordieB123> hey I've just installed ubuntu and I love it but I've been having a couple hardware problems I was wondering if someone could help me with them?
[02:47] <kbrooks> ironhawk, isnt it cool that you can instantly print from anywhere in your home with wireless and your laptop?
[02:47] <ironhawk> Egh -- geez avant is good but wish it wouldn't just keel over so often....
[02:47] <GerrySly> yo guys, I was wondering about something, if I was to install an irc client on a remote server, then have it always on then how would I switch to it and view the channel if it is running in the background or similar?
[02:47] <ouellettesr> ok, I need to figure out another way.... I am uploading a tar.gz file to my web server and I need to extract it in a directory and have it overwrite all the files in that directory. And I need to keep it from creating a folder and putting the files in there.
[02:47] <clubs> how should i go about manipulating partitions on my computer: i need to create a small partition with vista out of the free space on my windows xp partition. then, i need to merge the partitions together, or at least transfer many files on the xp partition to my vista partition, so i can view my files while on vista.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> GerrySly,  depends on what client. You could use irssi and screen
[02:47] <singlesun> odd question... how do I find out what Linux is calling my "pcmcia wireless card" from the terminal?
[02:48] <ironhawk> kbrooks : there are just too many cool things going on -- linux just makes this all too easy...
[02:48] <kbrooks> ironhawk, you dont need an AV in any Linux distribution
[02:48] <GerrySly> well when I login to my server I do my regular things, then I want to switch to the irc client after finishing up my normal things
[02:48] <kbrooks> ironhawk, viruses are few and far between. and the security model in the Linux kernel stops viruses in the cold.
[02:48] <GerrySly> is that possible, like running irssi in the background and then when I finish my regular things, pull it up only using ssh?
[02:48] <Flannel> GerrySly: use something like screen
[02:49] <xenthro> singlesun try this "lspci | grep -i wlan"
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> clubs: Start by backing up...  that looks like a receipe for disaster
[02:49] <ironhawk> kbrooks : sorry was referring to avant window manager -- hehe..
[02:49] <Dr_willis> GerrySly,   with irssi and other console stuff Screen is a MUST MUST learn about tool. :)
[02:49] <singlesun> xenthro, i will give it a shot real quick
[02:49] <kbrooks> ironhawk, ah sry
[02:49] <Flannel> GerrySly: you *could* do the background/foreground stuff, but screen is much easier and useful.
[02:49] <levander> Are the Canonical repositories down right now?
[02:49] <GerrySly> ok cheers
[02:49] <codename> I need help installing Flash on Ubuntu 7.10
[02:49] <Dr_willis> GerrySly,  screen is amazing in its usefullness. :)
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[02:49] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[02:49] <codename> seems to be not working after i install ti
[02:49] <GerrySly> i'll learn it right now then, running kubuntu here and ubuntu on my server
[02:49] <levander> A 'sudo apt-get update' just failed here.  Some indexes were not able to be downloaded...
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> codename: How did you install it
[02:50] <clubs> Jack_Sparrow. I have nothing to use to back up files. My xp partition is BSOD's and I figure this is the fastest way. I've been meaning to get vista anyway.
[02:50] <kbrooks> levander, there are more
[02:50] <levander> kbrooks: more what?
[02:50] <kbrooks> !mirrors
[02:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> clubs: Dont risk anything you cant replace
[02:50] <kbrooks> levander, mirrors
[02:50] <levander> kbrooks: Can you do a 'apt-get update' right now?
[02:50] <linux4909> can anyone point me to a site that would be helpful in configuring VB to work?
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> codename: How did you install flash
[02:51] <kbrooks> levander, yes, but thats because i'm on a local mirror
[02:51] <Dr_willis> linux4909,  to work to do what? its fairly easy to get it going. It has docs at its homepage
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> linux4909: I had 5 running but was still buggy
[02:52] <clubs> Jack_Sparrow, ok let's do something different then. I want to expand the 8gb partition with ubuntu to encompass all of the free space on the windows xp partition. how do i do this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:52] <singlesun> xenthro, that returns nothing ;)
[02:52] <levander> kbrooks: Are there mirrors of medibuntu too?  That's one of the ones that's failing.
[02:52] <exneo> how do I change the boot up screen in gutsy I wnt to make it look like a mac
[02:52] <singlesun> xenthro, it is however recognizing that it is there, because I am picking up networks, i just dont know what LInux is "naming it"
[02:52] <clubs> Jack_Sparrow, If I am thinking this out correctly, I would need to expand it multiple times, so I can move all my files from one partition to anther
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> clubs: Read up on uuid's ....  get gparted livecd
[02:53] <xenthro> singlesun nameing the device? just type in "iwconfig"
[02:53] <xenthro> singlesun or "iwlist scan"
[02:53] <clubs> can you point me to a web pagae?
[02:53] <singlesun> xenthro, excellent this works ;) thanks
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> clubs: with huge drives being as cheap as they are, I presonally cant see why people would want to risk it all and not have any backup.
[02:54] <xenthro> singlesun sorry, i misunderstood your question
[02:54] <kodak_forever> voltei
[02:54] <kodak_forever> agora sim
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[02:55] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[02:55] <linux4909> Dr_willis: im sorry, i wasnt' specific. i meant like configuring it. will Windows recognize my hardware?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> linux4909,  no idea. I dont run windows under virtualbox. Check its web site. Most likely yes it should.
[02:55] <Ububegin> when I press ls...i see certain files have diff colors..like some files are green while others are blue... may i know the difference....
[02:56] <linux4909> is there a difference between the VB OSE and the regular binaries?
[02:56] <clubs> Jack_Sparrow, I don't think there would be any risk if the programs were to use can do the job.
[02:57] <jeffMASTERflex> linux4909: yes, ose has fewer features. i'd say go for the binary install unless you feel particularly strong about FOSS
[02:57] <levander> kbrooks: I see how to change it to use a mirror at a local university. But, I don't see how to change for the security.ubuntu.com entries.  I only see it for the archive.ubuntu.com entries.
[02:57] <linux4909> jeffMASTERflex: im going binary
[02:57] <linux4909> thanks
[02:57] <jeffMASTERflex> linux4909: you actually got me curious and i'm installing winxp in virtual box right now
[02:58] <kbrooks> levander, none i presume
[02:58] <GeordieB123> I don't want to clutter this window too much is there anyone here who might be willing to help me out with a wireless problem?
[02:58] <jeffMASTERflex> linux4909: i went binary also
[02:59] <box_> is there a way to update to 8.04 alpha3 from 7.10 by use of a package manager or something of the nature instead of going through the downloading of the iso for alpha3 ?
[02:59] <Ububegin> when I press command "ls".............i see certain files have different colors..like some files are green while others are blue... may i know the difference....thanks
[02:59] <turion> Hi, which one is better ubuntu or debian? thanks
[03:00] <singlesun> sorry you guys, another stupid question... i apologize, yes.. ive always used windows...  :( ... how can you view all the paths for your drives through terminal.... i need to be able to see the paths in terminal..
[03:00] <Gnea> turion: huh?
[03:00] <c> ububegin: type man ls
[03:00] <jeffMASTERflex> Ububegin: directories are colored differently from files. executables files like scripts also have a different color
[03:00] <Ububegin> turion: people in channel would of course say ubuntu... :D
[03:00] <c> ububegin: and read about --color=auto
[03:00] <maxownz> turion: did you ask that question in #debian too?
[03:00] <singlesun> ive used ls... but ls only gives me desktop and a few other things
[03:01] <turion> not yet:P
[03:01] <singlesun> ah... you talking to someone else..
[03:01] <jeffMASTERflex> singlesun: ls -a shows everything
[03:01] <singlesun> jeffMASTERflex, excellent ;) thanks
[03:01] <Ububegin> c: U mean type --color=auto or google it
[03:01] <c> singlesun: you can type pwd, or you can change your shell prompt to include the full pathname
[03:01] <c> ububegin: type this: man ls
[03:01] <singlesun> c, very good, i will look into this as well
[03:01] <Gnea> turion: what do you mean by 'better'?
[03:01] <Gnea> better for WHAT?
[03:02] <Gnea> melting your brain? :)
[03:02] <jeffMASTERflex> i've heard debian is much better for eating babies. if you are into that of course.
[03:02] <box_> Anyone know if you can update to 8.04 alpha using a different method then downloading and burning the iso ?
[03:02] <turion> :O
[03:03] <turion> is it true that ubuntu is for noobs?
[03:03] <Gnea> an emoticon respose... obvious troll.
[03:03] <speeddemon8803> not necessarily turion
[03:03] <tritium> turion: it's for anybody, but of course, it's friendly to new users
[03:03] <Gnea> depends on the noob
[03:03] <jeffMASTERflex> turion: it's all linux. who cares? besides, i'd say pclos is easier for noobs
[03:03] <singlesun> c, jeffMASTERflex, usually i thought the path looked something like /mnt/hda2/whatevernameyoupicked/nextdirectory
[03:04] <singlesun> c, jeffMASTERflex problem is even with a "ls -a" its not showing that device path...
[03:04] <turion> is there a ubuntu dvd ?
[03:04] <tritium> box_: yes, the standard means: changing your repos in /etc/apt/sources.list, and dist-upgrading.  It's not advisable at this time, though.
[03:04] <tritium> turion: yes
[03:04] <turion> :)
[03:05] <turion> where can i get it?
[03:05] <box_> tnx
[03:05] <turion> ive been looking
[03:05] <r4nge> if my company blocks anything but port 80, can i set my linux box to port 80 and remote in using ssh from work?
[03:05] <tritium> turion: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:05] <tritium> turion: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ for the current stable release
[03:06] <turion> thank you so much:)
[03:06] <c> singlesun - what are you trying to do exacly?
[03:06] <codyduncan> I've got a question about how to open up a certain directory in terminal
[03:06] <CVD> can i formmat a floppy in ubuntu?, how?
[03:06] <eduard> I wrote my project's build system using scons -- how can I make scons build a tarball?
[03:06] <singlesun> c, i need to save a file using command line, its kinda complex... i will pm
[03:06] <tritium> CVD: yes, with fdformat
[03:07] <kbrooks> um
[03:07] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: you can open any directory by typing "cd" followed by the path
[03:07] <kbrooks> !hists
[03:07] <codyduncan> I am trying to get wireless working (like every other noob with ubuntu) and having troubles even following directions in wikis/tutorials due to my lack of experience
[03:07] <codyduncan> yes
[03:07] <kbrooks> question
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hists - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <tritium> codyduncan: that includes the ubuntu wikion wireless?
[03:07] <kbrooks> my /etc/hosts file is apparently broken
[03:08] <kbrooks> how do i fix it
[03:08] <turion> after i download this dvd are there more like in debian?
[03:08] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the directions I am reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 have directions to open a directory that is not included the one I am in
[03:08] <codyduncan> either they are faulty, or I am confused, and I am leaning towards the latter
[03:08] <tritium> turion: no, just one.  The normal install is on CD.
[03:08] <s0nix> how can i specify the username and password......... in a sudo mount -t nfs .... ?
[03:08] <jonsacri> buenas buenas
[03:09] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: type "cd" followed by the directory you want to move to. If it's /etc then you type "cd /etc"
[03:09] <tritium> codyduncan: which directions?  Have you follwed ubuntu-specific documentation?
[03:09] <tritium> !es | jonsacri
[03:09] <ubotu> jonsacri: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:09] <turion> so the dvd is just like the cd but with more software?
[03:09] <tritium> turion: yes
[03:09] <turion> oK:)
[03:09] <singlesun> c, did you get my pm?
[03:09] <turion> ill download it later;)
[03:10] <RasterBurner> hey my title bars on my windows are HUGE, about every other boot. how can i fix this?
[03:10] <turion> omg debian updates are so slow:(
[03:10] <RequinB4> What (.doc) filetype is best for retaining as much of hte format, font, etc of OOo files as possible (loading on M$ office)
[03:10] <turion> they are still using openoffice 2.0
[03:10] <turion> O_O
[03:10] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the directions say to untar a file, and then from there, go to the debian directory, I'm assuming there is something I don't know about the debian directory (like, anything/everything)
[03:10] <box_> tritium even tho the update is not advisable wouldn't update-manager -d work as well ??
[03:10] <codyduncan> tritium: the directions are on the ubuntu help site, so I assume they are ubuntu specific
[03:11] <tritium> codyduncan: yes, that's what I've been asking...
[03:11] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: to untar a file you type tar -xvvzf followed by the file name
[03:11] <singlesun> from bash, is there some way for me to view hda1 hda2... etc?
[03:11] <tritium> box_: yes
[03:11] <RequinB4> What (.doc) filetype is best for retaining as much of hte format, font, etc of OOo files as possible (loading on M$ office)
[03:11] <usr13_> singlesun: Yes
[03:11] <eduard> QUESTION: what should I do to scons so it would build a tarball? Is there a Builder or a function for that?
[03:11] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: it extracts the tar into the same directory, then you just type "cd whatever the new directory is"
[03:11] <singlesun> usr13, how so? ls -a did not list those
[03:11] <usr13_> singlesun: ls /mount/point/
[03:12] <sneakmonkey> hey
[03:12] <RasterBurner> whenever i download a program, what do i do with the folder full of stuff i get?
[03:12] <tomd123> does anyone know any way i can view and play itunes libraries over the network?
[03:12] <singlesun> usr13, let me try that real quick
[03:12] <AzMoo> Hey, how can I get the kernel headers? Is there a package?
[03:12] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the file is untarred already, but to go from there to the debian directory?  what does this mean?  it would probably be helpful if you saw the directions I am following, as I am assuming my misunderstanding is just a dumb mistake https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[03:12] <tomd123> this is the only reason why i'm willing to switch back to windows
[03:12] <linux4909__> hello?
[03:12] <ridge-meister> how can i create a partition to install Windows XP, from within Ubuntu?  There is software I need to run, that only runs on Windows (that Wine can not run)
[03:12] <usr13_> singlesun: You have to know where they are mounted.  cat /etc/fstab
[03:12] <eduard> AzMoo: yes something like "linux-headers-X.Y.Z-W"
[03:12] <usr13_> singlesun: mount
[03:12] <tritium> codyduncan: the debian directory is a sub-directory in a source package, not a binary package
[03:12] <ridge-meister> i'm thankful for the tutorial at the Ubuntu forums, got my printer working :)
[03:12] <sneakmonkey> i just installed ubuntu sucessfuly except when i boot it asks for my login password, when i type no text comes up, is there a way around the whole login thing?
[03:13] <tomd123> does anyone know any way i can view and play itunes libraries over the network?
[03:13] <codyduncan> In the terminal, I have already opened the directory for the file I untarred (nidiswrapper)
[03:13] <singlesun> usr13, thats the problem... i dont remember what hda my linux part is on... so i am trying to find it out
[03:13] <eduard> AzMoo: it's a package -- look in System>Administration>Synaptic
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: Righty-o, cheers.
[03:13] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: That is normal.
[03:13] <CVD> im using a windows program 'DriveScrubber' in wine but its say "there do disk , please insert one" but the floppy its already mounted
[03:13] <Mr_Sonoma> !patience | tomd123
[03:13] <ubotu> tomd123: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:13] <tritium> tomd123: rhythmbox has native support for daapd (the network protocol iTunes uses)
[03:13] <codyduncan> tritium: I'm not sure what that means (sorry)
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: heh, no synaptic here, cmdline only ;)
[03:13] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: well then that's it, you are in the directory, type "ls" to see what's inside
[03:13] <AzMoo> eduard: but it's all good, i used apt-cache instead.
[03:13] <eduard> AzMoo: do some apt-cache search
[03:13] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: That is normal. Passwords are not shown on the screen, just type it in anyway.
[03:13] <ridge-meister> give AzMoo a cookie :D
[03:13] <tomd123> tritium: doesn't work
[03:13] <sneakmonkey> really? il try again but i did type it and it still wasnt working
[03:13] <tritium> codyduncan: it means that whatever you're reading, if it's referring to the debian directory, is referring to a source package
[03:14] <sneakmonkey> thanks
[03:14] <tritium> tomd123: yes, it does.  I use it.
[03:14] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: there is probably a directory named "debian: inside
[03:14] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: there is no debian directory inside the untarred directory
[03:14] <eduard> QUESTION: what should I do to scons so it would build a tarball? Is there a Builder or a function for that?
[03:14] <usr13_> sneakmonkey: Just carfully type it in correctly and it will work for you.
[03:14] <singlesun> usr13, so i am trying to find out what /mnt/hda?? my linux partition is installed on
[03:14] <tomd123> tritium: did you set any special commands, I'm also using a university network, would that matter?
[03:14] <tritium> tomd123: it isn't, however, able to play Apple's DRMed songs you buy from iTunes store.  Rather, it can only play non-DRM songs in your iTunes collection.
[03:15] <AzMoo> Aw man, it doesn't have version.h ! I need version.h !
[03:15] <codename> need help installing flash
[03:15] <codename> on 7.10
[03:15] <RequinB4> What (.doc) filetype is best for retaining as much of hte format, font, etc of OOo files as possible (loading on M$ office)
[03:15] <tritium> tomd123: no special commands, and network shouldn't matter.  What matters most is Apple's DRM in your case, likely.
[03:15] <usr13_> ls /mnt/hda?
[03:15] <c> singlesun: type mount
[03:15] <keith__> Can anyone help me install Samba server?  Here's the message I get when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.  I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:15] <ardchoille> !flash | codename
[03:15] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: then just follow the instructions as is.
[03:15] <ubotu> codename: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[03:15] <usr13_> singlesun: ls /mnt/hda?
[03:15] <tomd123> tritium, it doesn't want to connect to any of the libraries, i have over 100 networked libraries
[03:15] <tritium> codyduncan: URL please?  It must be having you build something from a source package?
[03:15] <CVD> ?
[03:15] <tritium> tomd123: are they songs purchased from the iTunes store?
[03:15] <codyduncan> so this file I'm dealing with, a .tar.gz ndiswrapper...
[03:16] <usr13_> singlesun: To find out where or if it is mounted, issue command: mount
[03:16] <tomd123> tritium, no, I play them fine over my windows laptop
[03:16] <codyduncan> tritium: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 those are the directions I am (trying to) follow
[03:16] <tritium> tomd123: then you ripped them from CDs?
[03:16] <singlesun> usr13, i am assuming since I typed that in... it is installed on the first partition
[03:16] <tomd123> tritium, no they are other people's music that are on the local lan
[03:16] <c> singlesun: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:16] <FMZ> Don't want to spam, but really need help, I'm doing this for a charity, they need it ASAP.  Can anyone help me install Samba server?  Here's the message I get when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.  I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:17] <eduard> AzMoo: what exactly _are_ you trying to build?
[03:17] <ridge-meister> what program can i use in Ubuntu to create partitions?
[03:17] <c> you'll see something like that
[03:17] <usr13_> singlesun: To find out what is on the partitions, look at /etc/fstab
[03:17] <tritium> tomd123: they probably have DRM, in which case it won't work.  Thanks to Apple for that...
[03:17] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: what is the problem? the control.* files aren't in there?
[03:17] <c> but you don't really want to mess with that
[03:17] <usr13_> singlesun: cat /etc/fstab
[03:17] <codyduncan> they lead me to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482&package_id=99148 (ndiswrapper)
[03:17] <turion> why is it evertime i search for something related to debian, ubuntu shows all the time? I know ubuntu evolved from debian but still O_O
[03:17] <AzMoo> eduard: VMWare Tools.
[03:17] <tomd123> tritium, again, this is a university, almost all songs here don't have
[03:17] <tomd123> drm
[03:17] <singlesun> c, usr13 mine is showing that hda1 is ntfs i suppose.... but im running off a virtual disk right now... so wont it put that as a temporary hda2? that i can save to?
[03:17] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: the problem is that the directions are either leading me to a place that doesn't exist, or I am not experienced enough to access
[03:17] <AzMoo> eduard: It has a couple of modules that it needs.
[03:18] <codyduncan> so the control files are probably there, but I cannot yet get to them
[03:18] <c> singlesun
[03:18] <singlesun> c, usr13 live cd
[03:18] <tomd123> tritium, and would it really matter if the songs were drmed? since it doesn't even connect to the library to view the actual songs in the first place
[03:18] <eduard> AzMoo: so it need's the linux kernel's version.h ?
[03:18] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: you know you don't have to explore the folders through the command line. you can search through nautilus through the directories
[03:18] <singlesun> c, yes?
[03:18] <FMZ> Anyone?  Help with Samba server?
[03:18] <tritium> tomd123: yes, it REALLY would matter
[03:18] <usr13_> singlesun: But if you just open a terminal and type:  ls   you will see what is in your home user's directory, (but there may not be any files there yet...) Oh, you are using live CD, never mind.
[03:18] <Tuari_> try apt-get install smb
[03:18] <AzMoo> eduard: Yep. It says it's missing and that I should rebuild the kernel, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to do that in Ubuntu.
[03:18] <matthew_> FMZ: what are you trying to do with the SAMBA server?  I have limited knowledge
[03:19] <FMZ> Tuari_: "Couldn't find package smb"
[03:19] <tomd123> tritium, well I know for a fact my roomate doesn't have drm music and I can't even connect to his either
[03:19] <tritium> Tuari_: samba, not smb
[03:19] <c> singlesun: ah, then you don't have a linux partition, so there won't be a linux partition.  look for a memdisk, look where / is mounted
[03:19] <pvl1> whats it called when u make your grub menu look kool?
[03:19] <eduard> AzMoo: i have that file
[03:19] <FMZ> matthew_: I'm trying to install it so I can serve Windows shares from this box.
[03:19] <eduard> AzMoo: it's right under /usr/include/linux/version.h
[03:19] <singlesun> c, excellent let me look real uqick
[03:19] <usr13_> singlesun: If you are using live CD and there is a hard drive in your PC, it may or may not be mounted and readable, (but probably IS mounted and readable), in which case, use command: mount   to find out.
[03:19] <matthew_> FMZ: I think you install the samba package and smbfs
[03:19] <tritium> tomd123: you've enabled the proper plugin?
[03:19] <FMZ> Here's the output when I try "sudo apt-get install samba":  Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:20] <tritium> FMZ: update your package listing, then
[03:20] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: (I'm assuming nautilis is the standard for viewing directories) I get what you are saying, but the problem lies in the fact that what should be there, is not there, or is somewhere that I don't know how to get to
[03:20] <eduard> AzMoo: if it's too stupid to find it, just copy it somewhere in the package's build directory
[03:20] <tomd123> tritium, yes
[03:20] <FMZ> I've checked, and samba-common and smbclient are installed.
[03:20] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: namely, the debian directory
[03:20] <turion> since i dont have internet excess all the time where can i download the pkg to play mp3s flvs mpgs ects? i just need the .debs since im on a windows box right now thanks:)
[03:20] <pure`eigenVector> I'm getting a blank desktop after logging into gnome... signing out and trying to log in again.  I created a separate user, and everything works fine.  Any ideas where to look to troubleshoot?
[03:20] <hajiki> hey guys I'm trying to install the asian font pack for Adobe Acrobat 8, but I dont what to do when it asks me this: Enter the location where you installed the Adobe Reader [/opt]
[03:20] <tritium> tomd123: DAAP Music Sharing?
[03:20] <tomd123> yup
[03:20] <tritium> That's all you need to do, tomd123.
[03:20] <FMZ> tritium: apt-get update, I'd assume?
[03:21] <tritium> FMZ: yes
[03:21] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, it's too stupid to find it. Why the hell is it there though, instead of with the rest of the headers?
[03:21] <ridge-meister> wow, unfriendly chat tonight :/
[03:21]  * pure`eigenVector gives ridge-meister a big warm hug
[03:21] <tomd123> tritium, k thanks anyways
[03:21] <FMZ> tritium: Tried it already... :(
[03:21] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a command to "restart" usb ports
[03:21] <FMZ> No luck
[03:21] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: why are you trying to build ndiswrapper anyway? it comes installed in gutsy
[03:21] <eduard> AzMoo: copy it in the source tree and try again
[03:21] <tomd123> tritium, sry for being so stubborn, I'm just pissed at apple
[03:21] <mkquist_> pure`eigenVector: does that only happen when u log into ur new user?
[03:22] <tritium> tomd123: sorry you're having trouble.  I hope you figure it out.
[03:22] <codyduncan> I'm on 64 bit version, and issues arose
[03:22] <tritium> !info samba | FMZ
[03:22] <ubotu> fmz: samba (source: samba): a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: see, it's there...
[03:22] <pure`eigenVector> mkquist... it works find for my new user... just when I try re-logging in with the old user
[03:22] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: First off, you will probably want to afford the new user some more priviledges.  Edit /etc/group  (to give new user rights to more devices / services).
[03:22] <FMZ> o_O
[03:22] <FMZ> This is a fresh install.
[03:22] <Dex-Freudii> hi there
[03:22] <FMZ> Wait...
[03:22] <FMZ> This is Kubuntu... but, don't they use the same repos?
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: perhaps you only have the CD enabled as your only apt source?
[03:22] <tritium> FMZ: yes
[03:22] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: my wireless card is such that it gives people problems, often (broadcom 4318)
[03:22] <Afk> turion: you can check out http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:23] <Afk> and just download the ones you need
[03:23] <FMZ> tritium: Lemme see
[03:23] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: in any event, look for the control files in the untarred folder. who cares about the "debian" directory, just do a search for the files
[03:23] <Dex-Freudii> my gnome (that I use with Compiz at ubuntu 7.10) takes long to load... what can I do to fasten it up?
[03:23] <Dex-Freudii> *get it faster
[03:23] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: go to Places/Search for Files
[03:23] <FMZ> First time using Ubuntu, any hints on how to use other apt sources?
[03:23] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: is there a quick command to assign my new user the same groups as my existing user?
[03:23] <mkquist_> pure`eigenVector: sounds liek the 'old' user is the new one...  was gonna say you'll have to configure the new user to look like anything but default... but..
[03:23] <AzMoo> eduard: Seems that version.h doesn't match the kernel headers package.
[03:23] <tritium> FMZ: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[03:23] <norv> Dex-Freudii: look into prelink
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is that?
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is prelink?
[03:24] <tritium> !info prelink
[03:24] <norv> Dex-Freudii: I don't know much about that because once I've got a system up I don't like to unload much.. so I hardly bother
[03:24] <ubotu> prelink (source: prelink): ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20061201-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 683 kB, installed size 1044 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 powerpc ppc64)
[03:24] <eduard> AzMoo: well did you install the _corresponding_ version of linux-headers?
[03:24] <c> Dex-Freudii: http://www.crast.us/james/articles/prelink.php
[03:24] <pure`eigenVector> mkquist: I was hoping to fix the problem with the old user.  The first login after rebooting the box works fine... only if I sign out and re-sign in does it just sit there
[03:24] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: Edit /etc/group and add the new user name to the end of each line that has old user name, (preceeded by ,  and no spaces).
[03:24] <turion> hi, does the ubuntu dvd come with mp3 support?
[03:24] <Dex-Freudii> c thanks
[03:24] <AzMoo> eduard: yep. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[03:24] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: thanks
[03:25] <singlesun> usr13, c, mount gives me..... tmpfs on tmpfs(rw).... proc on /proc type(rw)... sysfs on /sys type sysfs(rw)... usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs... /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ntfs
[03:25] <FMZ> I think I'm being buggered by KDE on that one.. lol
[03:25] <eduard> AzMoo: what's the error?
[03:25] <AzMoo> The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[03:25] <AzMoo> your running kernel (version 2.6.22-14-generic).  Even if the module were to
[03:25] <tritium> FMZ: ah, sorry.  I gave you a Gnome menu reference.
[03:25] <codyduncan> omg, I just accidentally removed "places" and all that from my top panel, ridiculous
[03:25] <tritium> FMZ: another way to check is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:25] <venger> would any other wine user here mind checking appdb.winehq.org and see if you get a too many connections error when loading the page?
[03:25] <AzMoo> oops, bad paste, sorry.
[03:26] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: right click on the menu and add the menu bar applet again
[03:26] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: e.g.  cupsys,user1,user2
[03:26] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: i meant right click on the pane
[03:26] <peeps> i can't get ubuntu printer settings to find my IPP printer.  I somehow got it to work on another Ubuntu computer of mine though
[03:26] <norv> venger: appdb seems to have a really sporadic web server
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> what should I prelink for speeding up gnome?
[03:26] <Dex-Freudii> and how?
[03:26] <wolferine> how do you convert .img to .iso ?
[03:27] <venger> norv, alright i just needed to confirm i wasn't over using it and the error pertained to *my* connections
[03:27] <norv> Dex-Freudii: prelink everything
[03:27] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: golden
[03:27] <tritium> !iso | wolferine
[03:27] <ubotu> wolferine: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:27] <codyduncan> now onto my ACTUAL problem
[03:27] <FMZ> That seems to be doing it.  That config file says it was commented out because it was unable to verify.  Wonder if that's because I wasn't hooked up to the network while I was installing.
[03:27] <Dex-Freudii> norv, what is "everything"? I have to give it some sources don't I?
[03:27] <eduard> AzMoo: if it's using make, @@VMWARE@@ sure looks like an damn unexpanded macro. try make clean && ./configure && make
[03:27] <Dex-Freudii> prelink /path/to/executable
[03:27] <wolferine> tritium, thats pretty much useless, and I could have just done it myself
[03:27] <tritium> FMZ: yes, it sure was
[03:27] <tritium> wolferine: what is?
[03:28] <FMZ> tritium: I love you.
[03:28] <norv> Dex-Freudii: i'll install it and check, but I'm sure there's a 'recursive' one which links all executables
[03:28] <wolferine> tritium, get yourself a coffee, I think your losing it
[03:28] <client_> 010
[03:28] <tritium> FMZ: heh, no problem ;)
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> norv, wait
[03:28] <tritium> wolferine: I gave you the information you requested.  Not sure what you don't like about it.
[03:28] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: k, I've added my new user to the same groups as my old user... still can log in/out and in again just fine...
[03:28] <Dex-Freudii> is there any other way? I mean
[03:29] <Dex-Freudii> for example to avoid gnome to load some components?
[03:29] <wolferine> tritium, as I said, that doesnt help AND I could have just hit the trigger myself
[03:29] <wolferine> triggate, aka. you did not give me any help
[03:29] <norv> Dex-Freudii: you can't pare much off of gnome...
[03:29] <wolferine> tritium*
[03:29] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: Log out and back in again in order for the new user to realize new priviledges.
[03:29] <root__> Hey, looking for the dwm header file, where can I find it?
[03:29] <c> wolferine: i think he's trying to say that .img might be the same as an iso file.  no idea tho
[03:29] <AzMoo> eduard: http://pastebin.ca/882699
[03:29] <Dex-Freudii> norv, KDE is lighter right?
[03:29] <root__> I used apt to install dwm, btw
[03:29] <viktor> Hey! im new here and Ubuntu is new for me, Question: is there an app that work like the windows app Defrag.. and disc clean
[03:29] <CVD> nothing
[03:30] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it's the same
[03:30] <eduard> AzMoo: okay wait
[03:30] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: done... logged in and out twice
[03:30] <tritium> wolferine: sorry you're having trouble.  Others have found it useful.
[03:30] <usr13_> wolferine: mkisofs
[03:30] <wolferine> tritium, I am sure they have
[03:30] <Ububegin> wat is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:30] <c> wolferine: it seems you're either new to the terminal, or you're trying to do something very complex
[03:30] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, so how come does gnome take longer than kde to load?
[03:30] <CVD> any soft to format low-level?
[03:30] <tritium> wolferine: but hey, others have been appreciate also
[03:30] <c> wolferine: mistype: http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/img
[03:30] <tritium> appreciative*
[03:30] <usr13_> wolferine: man mkisofs
[03:30] <toulouse> how to i connect to a specific irc server?
[03:31] <eduard> AzMoo: okay, tell me -- where did you get the source from? (link)
[03:31] <c> toulouse: /server <servername>
[03:31] <norv> Dex-Freudii: errm, not really. Xubuntu isn't much lighter either
[03:31] <viktor> soft to clean hdd and defrag? PLZ
[03:31] <usr13_> toulouse: /server irc.newserver.com
[03:31] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex: you have looked at the directions I am trying to follow?
[03:31] <Dex-Freudii> norv, how much does your gnome take to load?
[03:31] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it doesn't. maybe you just have good luck with kde. also, the ubuntu desktop by default loads the deskbar, and other items that take longer to load
[03:31] <norv> KDE uses kded, it is faster at the cost of memory
[03:31] <_elemental>  Hello, I'm trying to setup a vhost (zfbase.localhost) on ubuntu using lampp, everytime I go to zfbase.localhost it redirects to zfbase.localhost/xampp/
[03:32] <usr13_> viktor: Not needed.  It's done automatically.
[03:32] <viktor> ok thx
[03:32] <_elemental>  how do I keep this from happening
[03:32] <AzMoo> eduard: No link. It's part of VMWare Workstation. You click "Install VMWare Tools..." and it loads its own iso that has the tool packages on it.
[03:32] <jeffMASTERflex> codyduncan: yes, i saw the directions, they don't mean much to me, i haven't downloaded the package to see what's inside
[03:32] <tritium> !attitude | wolferine
[03:32] <ubotu> wolferine: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:32] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, deskbar is the bar with Applications, Places and System menu?
[03:32] <eduard> AzMoo: okay wait a sec
[03:32] <usr13_> viktor: Linux does not have filesystem defects that MS does.
[03:32]  * pure`eigenVector gives ubotu a big hug
[03:32] <wolferine> tritium, stop fuelling the fire, your not helping
[03:32] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: no it's a little magnofying glass thing with the orange arrow
[03:32] <maxownz> if i install wine what versions of IE will I be able to install?
[03:32] <Ububegin> wat is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:33] <Dex-Freudii> oh
[03:33] <tritium> wolferine: you mean "you're", not "your"
[03:33] <usr13_> maxownz: Are you sure you need IE?
[03:33] <norv> Dex-Freudii: virtually the same time for KDE as for Gnome, I just use kde because I'm used to it
[03:33] <c> LOL wow ... windows key + tab is pretty f-ing cool
[03:33] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also i don't know if kubuntu does so, but trackerd is loaded all the time in gnome which indexes your home directory
[03:33] <CVD> ?
[03:33] <maxownz> just for testing web development
[03:33] <wolferine> tritium, enjoy being ignored
[03:33] <kenboo> anyone experience lock up of keyboard ? the same machine never had such problem with debian.
[03:33] <usr13_> maxownz: o
[03:34] <_elemental> maxownz, I've found running winxp in a virtual machine to be more stable for such endeavours
[03:34] <lxuser> how to keep system always fresh
[03:34] <codyduncan> jeffMASTERflex and tritium : thanks, no luck, but thanks.  Adios.
[03:34] <eduard> AzMoo: did vmware ask you about "the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel"?
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> maxownz: I agree with eduard...
[03:34] <tritium> codyduncan: good luck
[03:34] <sixpence> Heya where is the dwm header file stored in ubuntu?
[03:34] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, how do I turn it off?
[03:34] <norv> kenboo: yes but it came with seized video and mouse, being unable to kill X
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> wait I mean _elemental
[03:34] <_elemental> ^^
[03:34] <pure`eigenVector> <3
[03:35] <_elemental> maxowns, if you run a windows browser through wine you aren't necessarily seeing hte page as windows will render it
[03:35] <kenboo> norv: have you tried other Linux distros with the same machine?
[03:35] <norv> jeffMASTERflex: strigi's running in KDE which appears even heavie (i.e. indexes more)
[03:35] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: it can be disabled in System/Administration/Services
[03:35] <Pharaoh-> exit
[03:35] <norv> jeffMASTERflex: *heavier*
[03:35] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, is it advisable to disable it?
[03:35] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: any other ideas for troublshooting this gnome login issue?
[03:36] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: if you don't search through your files often you can disable it without any problems
[03:36] <_elemental> anyone know how to keep a vhost (using xampp) from redirecting to vhost/xampp ?
[03:36] <kenboo> I feel ubuntu is unstable comparing to debian.
[03:36] <norv> kenboo: yes, I'm actually trying to work on a meta distro. having come from gentoo I like source features, but binary distro is superior for ease and speed of set up
[03:36] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also, if you don't have a printer, you can disable the CUPS printer service
[03:36] <didkoddd> hey guys how can i make my 3d decktop lika s cube ?
[03:37] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: There are only 2 issues, username and password.  You are typing one of them in wrong.
[03:37] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: also, if you don't have bluetooth stuff you can disable bluetooth services
[03:37] <Stepa1> I have 3 part rar files.  How can i extract them. Hopefully terminal
[03:37] <tritium> norv: if you do prefer source, there's always apt-get source, if you prefer to build anything
[03:37] <eduard> AzMoo: do you remember about me telling you to copy version.h in there? well delete it.
[03:37] <jeffMASTERflex> Dex-Freudii: those three services are safe to disable
[03:37] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, bluetooth I don't have it
[03:37] <Dex-Freudii> jeffMASTERflex, thank you very much
[03:38] <Dex-Freudii> norv, also I thank you very much
[03:38] <eduard> AzMoo: that file is _supposed_ to already be there, or to be automagically generated
[03:38] <norv> tritium: right. meta in the sense that you can have the best source and best binary distro at the same time. at the cost of some disk (though not as much as having side-by-side distros)
[03:38] <tanubis> anyone know of a good web-based proxy script that will run on an ubuntu apache server?  I'm setting up an ubuntu box to handle internet traffic for my work's WAN.  We have internal applications we'd like accessable from the internet, but want to minimize the exposure of the internal servers.  Any suggestions?
[03:38] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: un/pw isn't the issue, it works fine after reboot... but after logging out and back in is when it stops working
[03:38] <tritium> norv: :)
[03:38] <norv> tritium: if there ever was a "best"
[03:38] <c> Stepa1: install 7zip and you can use the command 7z
[03:39] <Tuari_> tanubis might want to look into pfsense or ipcop
[03:39] <c> Stepa1: or download unrar for linux from the internet (rarlabs.com it think0
[03:39] <_elemental> u_u
[03:39] <tanubis> tuari_ are those firewalls?
[03:39] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: I'll see what I can figure out.  Thanks for the help
[03:39] <Stepa1> c: would 7zip work with rars
[03:39] <norv> tritium: was even thinking of putting in a "instant livecd" feature, then realized someone (e.g. I) might have left a few 'pictures' lying around
[03:40] <_elemental> Stepal yes
[03:40] <jeffMASTERflex> c unrar is available in the repos. or is it medibuntu. i'm not sure, one of those for sure
[03:40] <Ububegin> what is the command to check whether a certain port is accepting connections...
[03:40] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: I'm sorry.  What stops working?
[03:40] <norv> I believe 7zip works with rar, but I haven't used that in ages
[03:40] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: the desktop doesn't show up.  the panels, the icons, nothing
[03:40] <mrtubby> Does anyone know how to generate an md5 hashed password that i can just paste into my shadow file?
[03:41] <norv> rar that is, 7zip is nice (even its front ends to zip/bz/ar)
[03:41] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: just a brown screen with a working mouse
[03:41] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, automagically generated when you compile, but I obviously haven't compiled :\
[03:41] <eduard> AzMoo: okay what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:41] <pure`eigenVector> usr13_: is there any particular logs I should be looking for errors in?
[03:42] <lxuser> how keep desktop fresh
[03:42] <AzMoo> eduard: Install the VMWare tools.
[03:42] <eduard> AzMoo: well isn't there an ubuntu package with them?
[03:43] <usr13_> pure`eigenVector: You might try Alt-F2  and run  gnome-panel
[03:43] <jeffMASTERflex> later
[03:43] <norv> Ububegin: simple, use a client (for the server type that goes with the port). no connection = not accepting connections
[03:43] <eduard> AzMoo: oh okay forget it i've just read the doc
[03:43] <norv> Ububegin: even a non-firewalled port can be closed, by simply not having a server to respond to it
[03:44] <Stepa1> Are there any other methods to extract rars?
[03:44] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to display the results of a terminal command as an item on one of my panels?
[03:45] <AzMoo> eduard: It may be that the version of the VMWare tools is too old. Google seems to think so anyway. O
[03:45] <eduard> AzMoo: so you did the ./vmware-install ?
[03:46] <Ububegin> norv: I am trying to set up AXIS( a web service)... they mentioned type "netstat -npl will show your chosen port as accepting connections" ... when i typed the command, i dont see any port numbers... :?
[03:46] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, it does a bunch of stuff and then asks for the location of the headers. It can't find version.h so it errors.
[03:46] <AzMoo> eduard: It should compile a couple of modules and insert them into the kernel.
[03:47] <kenboo> Ububegin:  netstat -an |grep LISTEN |less
[03:47] <kenboo> -anp works if you're root.
[03:47] <anthis> on a fresh ubuntu install how do you setup the screenlets on the bottom like you usually see from screenshots?
[03:48] <CVD> "canont mount the volume(floppy), i could not determine the filesystem type and non was specified"
[03:48] <ssa3512> hello?
[03:48] <norv> kenboo: unix domain sockets have no port, correct?
[03:49] <Zombine> Dows anyone know how to change the percent of a synaptics touchpad used for scrolling.  Right now It's like 50%, and that's really damn annoying
[03:49] <kenboo> ah
[03:49] <kenboo> thought IP heh..
[03:49] <Stepa1> I have 3 rar parts, how can i extract it
[03:49] <pure`eigenVector> anyone know what the .ms files in ~/.metacity/session/ are for?
[03:49] <kenboo> i mean tcp
[03:50] <eduard> AzMoo: post the perl script "vmware-install.pl" to pastebin
[03:50] <ssa3512> I have a ubuntu system and am trying to setup an ircd-hybrid server, but when I try to connect to it I get 'connection refused'
[03:50] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[03:50] <norv> Stepa1: not sure, I thought you could just catenate them
[03:51] <norv> Stepa1: but it's probably not that simple if nothing does it automatically
[03:51] <WorkingOnWise> it there a firewall running by default in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[03:51] <NICOI69> How can i get a file to my computer from another computer that are both running linux in the same network?
[03:51] <norv> WorkingOnWise: no
[03:51] <AzMoo> eduard: Give me a minute. I've got a later version that I've pulled from ESX Server, I'm going to see if that works before I start hacking the install script ;)
[03:51] <usr13_> Stepa1: unrar
[03:51] <norv> WorkingOnWise: there are also very few if any servers running at all
[03:51] <eduard> AzMoo: good idea
[03:51] <CVD> cheeese
[03:51] <CVD> what happening here
[03:52] <Stepa1> usr13_: can you lead me through the terminal steps please?
[03:52] <fatejudger> I just  used the "start-up manager" to change my bootloader and after a reboot, grub gives a "file not found error"
[03:52] <usr13_> Stepa1: unrar filename
[03:52] <fatejudger> I replaced the menu.lst with the one it backed up, still no effect
[03:52] <fatejudger> is there something I'm missing or am I going to have to reinstall grub?
[03:52] <norv> NICOI69: use scp/ssh/fish which just require an ssh server on the other
[03:53] <NICOI69> even if both folders are shared already?
[03:53] <WorkingOnWise> norv: where can I go to get an explaination for how it is that the first 1024 ports of my ip are invisable but there is no firewall there to block anything. I do run pidgin for im, which I think are higher ports, but even 80 is invisable.....
[03:53] <usr13_> Stepa1:  unrar x file.rar
[03:53] <usr13_> sorry
[03:53] <Stepa1> usr13_: how do i enable component multiverse
[03:54] <levander> WorkingOnWise: invisible from where?
[03:54] <norv> WorkingOnWise: err, if you don't have a web server running 80 should be closed
[03:54] <usr13_> Stepa1: componet multiverse?
[03:54] <usr13_> sorry - don't understand.
[03:54] <Stepa1> You will have to enable component called 'multiverse'
[03:55] <eduard> fatejudger: use pastebin to post your menu.lst
[03:55] <ssa3512> does anyone know anything about running an irc server using ircd-hybrid on ubuntu?
[03:55] <genii> WorkingOnWise: ports numbered 0 through 1024 are assigned specific functions. eg: 80= http server   and so on. If you are not running an application which specifically uses one of these assigned services you will not havethat port open
[03:55] <WorkingOnWise> levander: ww.grc.com has a port scanner I use to check pc firewalls for holes. my pc is invisable. :) but no firewall at all.
[03:55] <WorkingOnWise> norv: I thought 80 was the port for http traffic both directions?
[03:56] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/m4e08354e
[03:56] <RiXtEr> hey all what would be the regex for finding '58G' using grep ... thats (digit)(digit)G
[03:56] <Stepa1> usr13_: "You will have to enable component called 'multiverse'"
[03:57] <genii> WorkingOnWise: Opening a port is done from client. Responding to port is responsibility of server. If no server, no reply.
[03:57] <czr> RiXtEr, [\d\d]G
[03:58] <eduard> fatejudger: confirm that your ubuntu root ( / ) partition is on your second partition of the first harddisk
[03:58] <CVD> linux dont ask to format the automatically like windows do?
[03:59] <Zombine> Anyone know anyhting at all about configuring a touchpad?
[03:59] <usr13_> Stepa1: Oh, what  you need is repos opened up.
[03:59] <RiXtEr> czr, grep -e [\d\d]G isn't working...
[03:59] <fatejudger> eduard: according to gparted, it is
[03:59] <czr> RiXtEr, add proper quotes around it
[03:59] <WorkingOnWise> genii: that makes sense. so that means that other os's have upwards of 40 "servers" runnung on differant ports? thets typically what i see for port reply's with that tool. mine is the first linux box i have tested with it. quite surprising results
[03:59] <Stepa1> usr13_: sorry, what is repos?
[03:59] <fitztrev> !im > me
[03:59] <RiXtEr> czr: proper quotes? ""
[03:59] <usr13_> Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[03:59] <eduard> WorkingOnWise: actually the outgoing port is usually higher than 20000 -- it just binds to port 80 _on the server_
[04:00] <usr13_> Stepa1:  "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties"
[04:00] <czr> RiXtEr, hmm. you're right. let me check what's up with that.
[04:00] <eduard> fatejudger: what OS are you on right now?
[04:00] <czr> RiXtEr, try '[:digit:]{2}G'
[04:00] <genii> WorkingOnWise: Yes. Although the 40 different "servers" could just be different applications sitting in the back on the same machine waiting to reply to activity on a certain port
[04:00] <Stepa1> usr13_: Software Sources?
[04:00] <usr13_> Stepa1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:01] <fatejudger> eduard: I took out my 7.10 CD and booted it up
[04:01] <usr13_> Stepa1: Skip down to the part about Multiverse Repositories
[04:01] <NICOI69> I still cant get it to work
[04:01] <genii> WorkingOnWise: httpd for instamce is http daemon (background process) eg: apache
[04:01] <Stepa1> usr13_: got it
[04:02] <RiXtEr> czr: still nothing
[04:02] <eduard> fatejudger: go in your root ubuntu root partition (not the liveCD's, yours), and tell me whether the vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic is in /boot
[04:02] <ssa3512> can someone help me with configuring a ircd-hybrid server?
[04:02] <fatejudger> eduard: I'm already there, and yes, it's there
[04:03] <mkquist_> anyone have any experience w/xephyr?
[04:03] <czr> RiXtEr, grep -E '[0-9]{2}G'
[04:03] <_elemental> anyone get xampp vhosts workin?
[04:03] <Cpudan80> What's the package to install the programming manuals?
[04:03] <LiraNuna> !anyone mkquist_
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone mkquist_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <LiraNuna> !anyone | mkquist_
[04:04] <ubotu> mkquist_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:04] <Strangelet> My computer uses two different Linux OS's, Ubuntu and OpenGEU. I use Pidgin on both and wish to share my chat logs between both of them. I hope to change the Logs folder to /media/media/Logs, instead of the current folder (what IS the current folder anyways?)
[04:04] <RiXtEr> czr: Ahh!!! thats the one... THANKS!
[04:04] <czr> RiXtEr, took a while ;-)
[04:04] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ Can you share /home ?
[04:04] <WorkingOnWise> genii: I have always been a cautious user and as such, never an intrusion, virus or trojan on my system, but it was soooo much work. Now I sit on my Ubuntu Laptop with pidgin doing all my im clients (aim, icq, msn, gtalk, yahoo, irc, and myspace) and this thing is more secure with no effort that before after several hours of configuring ans installing ans checking. This is the minimum security level I can expect in a modern
[04:04] <RiXtEr> czr: I've used it before, but its been a while
[04:05] <czr> RiXtEr, I normally just use python RE anyway, hence the delay :-)
[04:05] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Excuse me?
[04:05] <TheFishy> kahrytan, nice pointer "➲"
[04:05] <RiXtEr> czr: looking for large directories on my server du -hc | grep -E '[0-9]{2}G'
[04:05] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  can you put /home on a sedesperateartition so both Linux distros use it?
[04:05] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  can you put /home on a separate so both Linux distros use it?
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: it will grab a little junk, but I can sort it out to find it :)
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: is there a way to make it only look at the first 4 chars... possibly awk..
[04:06] <czr> RiXtEr, yup. you might try running filelight at your server at some point. very nice & visual way of finding out where the large dirs go
[04:06] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[04:06] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  You can put /home on a partition and have the systems share it.
[04:06] <Strangelet> kahrytan: hmm! I guess I could, though I do not know how to do it.
[04:06] <eduard> fatejudger: your menu.lst looks ok to me -- startup-manager must've borked somewhere
[04:06] <czr> RiXtEr, ^ = start of line. start with that :-)
[04:06] <RiXtEr> czr: no x on the server ;)
[04:07] <czr> RiXtEr, so? mount over nfs ;-)
[04:07] <eduard> fatejudger: do you get to see the grub menu?
[04:07] <nickrud> Cpudan80: you mean devhelp ?
[04:07] <eduard> fatejudger: or it directly crashes with that error?
[04:07] <czr> RiXtEr, good luck with your endevours. -> afk.
[04:07] <RiXtEr> czr: thanks again.
[04:08] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I guess, the man pages for things like random(), sleep(), etc
[04:08] <Lektus> hey all. Anyone here good with setting up a dedicated counter-strike server on ubuntu server?
[04:08] <kahrytan> They really should add borked to the no no list for !language
[04:08] <nickrud> Cpudan80: manpages-dev
[04:08] <Cpudan80> k
[04:08] <fatejudger> eduard: no, I get to see the menu
[04:08] <Cpudan80> Anyone know how to get a link in nautalis for "command line from here"
[04:08] <Cpudan80> or something like that?
[04:09] <fatejudger> eduard: if I select one of the options, it gives me a "file not found" error
[04:09] <fatejudger> eduard: the memtest and the vista bootloader selection work, however
[04:09] <nickrud> Cpudan80: nautilus-open-terminal  package
[04:09] <kodemage> Cpudan80: have you tried google?
[04:09] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:09] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I think I have that package though
[04:10] <eduard> fatejudger: that means you get to see the menu...
[04:10] <AzMoo> eduard: Yeah, definitely fixed.
[04:10] <Cpudan80> kodemage: yes, I found that nautilus-open-terminal on google -- didnt really work
[04:10] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Thanks! :D
[04:10] <eduard> AzMoo: happy for you
[04:10] <Strangelet> kahrytan: Waiitt.. Where are the Pidgin logs even STORED anyways??
[04:10] <Syn-> I'm trying to install the beta creative labs alsa sound driver (64bit) on an Ubuntu 64bit system and I'm getting an error saying it only supports 64bit systems... I have a X-Fi card, is there an easier way to get this working?
[04:10] <AzMoo> eduard: Seems that VMWare workstation ships with an older version of the tools. Thanks for your help though :)
[04:10] <eduard> AzMoo: no problem
[04:10] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲  probably under .purple?
[04:11] <kahrytan> Strangelet➲ .purple is pidgins preferences
[04:12]  * nickrud never understood not using app names for settings directories
[04:12] <hellotherehere> Hi, I have phpmyadmin and phppgadmin installed but when I go to 127.0.0.1/... I dont see them, I think i ned to add shortcuts for them there. how to do that?
[04:12] <nickrud> Cpudan80: for sleep, try man 3 sleep (had to install the package, haven't used it for a while)
[04:13] <avis> what would cause sound file icons in nautilus to turn to document icons and render the files unplayable until logging out and back into the system ?
[04:13] <eduard> fatejudger: from your LiveCD, first figure out the mountpoint of your root ubuntu partition
[04:13] <nickrud> hellotherehere: go to 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin , its there
[04:13] <hellotherehere> nickrud: Its not,
[04:13] <NICOI69> How can i get VMWARE to install on ubuntu 7.10 it keeps giving me a i386 error
[04:13] <fatejudger> eduard: I have it mounted to /media/disk right now
[04:14] <kahrytan> don't ya need apache nickrud ?
[04:14] <jcmorris_mts> Hi all... I have newbie question re: the server version of Ubuntu
[04:14] <nickrud> hellotherehere: do you have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf ?
[04:14] <nickrud> kahrytan: yes, I guess I assumed he had that :)
[04:14] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: you need to create a symlink
[04:14] <Cpudan80> There is an error in the package
[04:14] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: yes I know, but how to create it?
[04:15] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: cd to /var/www and do
[04:15] <nickrud> Cpudan80: works here
[04:15] <usr13_> hellotherehere: ln -s
[04:15] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin phpmyadmin
[04:15] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yes, well theres an error in the package
[04:15] <jcmorris_mts> Does anyone know if the server + LAMP stack can be installed over the desktop installation, or do I have wipe the drive and start over?
[04:16] <nickrud> Cpudan80: ok, I guess I just got lucky
[04:16] <Cpudan80> jcmorris_mts: You can install the LAMP stuff on the desktop version of ubuntu no problem
[04:16] <nickrud> !lamp | jcmorris_mts
[04:16] <ubotu> jcmorris_mts: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:16] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I think it is a relatively new thing to be honest
[04:16] <eduard> fatejudger: use "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot"
[04:16] <_elemental> need help with xampp vhosts, zfbase.localhost keeps redirecting to zfbase.localhost/xampp/  here's my vhost.conf http://pastebin.com/m58a6861
[04:17] <nickrud> Cpudan80: I haven't done an update recently (some other problems have scared me off for a while)
[04:17] <eduard> fatejudger: and then run "sudo update-grub"
[04:17] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: did it, but still nothing
[04:17] <ironhawk> part
[04:17] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: then you did it wrong
[04:18] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: were you in /var/www when you made the link thing
[04:18] <hellotherehere> sudo ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin phpmyadmin thats what I have done
[04:18] <fatejudger> eduard: okay, it's done; should I restart?
[04:18] <jcmorris_mts> not just the LAMP stuff... I originally was going to run Ubuntu as desktop only... but I need to set up Subversion and become an SVN server.  So I have to be running the server version, not the desktop.
[04:18] <eduard> fatejudger: any errors?
[04:18] <fatejudger> eduard: none
[04:18] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: you can run svn as a server on the desktop as well
[04:18] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: do ls -l in the /var/www directory and make sure the link you made actually works (should be light blue pointing to blue)
[04:18] <_elemental> jcmorris_mts, you dont' have to run server to serve svn
[04:18] <eduard> fatejudger: swell -- try restarting now
[04:19] <jcmorris_mts> I guess my question is: do I have to burn the server ISO and start over, or can I just download the server packages and install them on top of the desktop version?
[04:19] <jcmorris_mts> really _elemental?  are you sure?
[04:19] <_elemental> yeah
[04:19] <genii> jcmorris_mts: run tasksel             and choose the lamp task
[04:20] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: linux is a server, at all times whether or not you run a desktop on it
[04:20] <_elemental> what nick said
[04:20] <Kuwanger> Is there a stand-alone program to launch .desktop files?
[04:21] <PanzerMKZ> but a darn good server she is
[04:21] <bullgard4> What programming language requires to surround surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[04:21] <_elemental> um SQL?
[04:21] <_elemental> :P
[04:21] <jcmorris_mts> so if I want to set up Subversion so that a remote developer using Eclipse can connect to my box, you're all telling me that I can do it without running the server version of Ubuntu, correct?
[04:21] <_elemental> jcmorris yep
[04:21] <jcmorris_mts> yes, nickrud  ;-)
[04:21] <nickrud> Kuwanger: those are intended to be used in launchers
[04:21] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[04:22] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: yes
[04:22] <genii> jcmorris_mts: Yes, you don't need the full blown server install for that
[04:22] <_elemental> jcmorris_mts: access via ip or if you setup the hosts file by host name
[04:22] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: did it, and now I see icon in the www directory, but when I try to reach it it gives me permission denied, the owner of the icon in www is root
[04:22] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Um, exactly.  And I'm asking if there's a stand-alone program to launch .desktop files.
[04:22] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: the packages are the same on both the server iso and the desktop iso, just different selections
[04:23] <PanzerMKZ> you know it is funny. Most people I know start with the desktop version and then add the packages they need for server stuff
[04:23] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: shouldnt the www directory be owned by www-data
[04:23] <jcmorris_mts> cool beans... so ... all I have to do is...??  (what's the easiest procedure?)
[04:23] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: sudo chmod 755 /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[04:23] <nickrud> Kuwanger: you can put a launcher on the panel, or on the desktop, or in a menu. Those are the apps that use launchers. I'm not sure what you're looking for a standalone to do
[04:23] <Motorsport3> hello, my shift, control, special, and caps key just stopped working, how do I fix it w/o rebooting
[04:23] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: no, should be owned by root
[04:23] <_elemental> ok, so I'm guessing no one is running vhosts in xampp on ubuntu?
[04:24] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: install subversion and subversion-tools (useful things) and set up your svn repo
[04:24] <Motorsport3> is there a init.d script I can restart
[04:24] <jcmorris_mts> ok nickrud... I'm with ya... go on
[04:25] <nickrud> Cpudan80: /var/www should be owned by www-data if apache is going to be writing to those directories
[04:25] <nickrud> jcmorris_mts: that's it :)
[04:25] <quaal> does ubuntu allow you to connect to the gnome login screen through vnc?
[04:25] <Cpudan80> nickrud: really, hrmm.... another error in the package then :-/
[04:25] <GeordieB123>  I've been at this for hours and no luck so far could anyone please help me. I'm trying to install an intel wireless driver and a bluetooth mouse. Help on either issue would be greatly appreciated!
[04:25] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Icewm's icewm-menu-gnome2 can open .desktop files, but it doesn't support KDE features like X-KDE-SubstituteUID.  More than that, it doesn't seem to work right on some .desktop files.
[04:25] <jcmorris_mts> ... and installing the LAMP stack?  is that just run tasksel & choose lamp task?
[04:25] <nickrud> Kuwanger: don't know a thing about icewm or kde.
[04:26] <xTheGoat121x> What is a pager?
[04:26] <nickrud> !lamp | jcmorris_mts (how I did it)
[04:26] <ubotu> jcmorris_mts (how I did it): LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:26] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: I got this chmod: cannot access `/usr/share/phpmyadmin': No such file or directory
[04:26] <hellotherehere>  while the file is there
[04:26] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: usually it means the panel app that lets you switch destops; or an app that 'pages' thru a text file
[04:26] <soldats> Kuwanger, check the icewm homepage and check for the current version that suports most of kde
[04:26] <hellotherehere> *dir
[04:27] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Nor should you, which is the point.  If there was a stand-alone unified launcher, kde, icewm, and gnome could all use it to actually launch .desktop files so it'd not be an issue of incompatability/issues.
[04:27] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, ah, ok.
[04:27] <Fezzler> Is $160 a good deal for a mini-itx Pen M 1.6Ghz, 512 Ram, HD, power supply, 15" LCD?  No case.  Purpose: Run Ubuntu 7.10 of course!
[04:27] <jcmorris_mts> way cool... you guys/gals rock... thanks to all!  peace out - jcmorris
[04:27] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: then you didn't install the package correctly
[04:27] <nickrud> Kuwanger: the desktop.org project is supposed to be working on that, has been for several years. The various desktops have to implement it and agree
[04:28] <rhpot1991> what is the propper way to do WPA authentication anymore?  If I do it with the gnome network manager it never connects, if I edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand and put all my info into there, then it works but only after I restart networking by hand.
[04:28] <bullgard4> xTheGoat121x: 'pager' has several meanings. One meaning is a program that outputs text in the format of 'pages' that fill your terminal. And when you press a certain key, the next part of the text will fill your terminal.
[04:28] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: thats how I installed it sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[04:29] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Well, yes, they'd have to agree at least.  I was just curious if there were any other stand-alone launchers to try out.
[04:29] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: what should be the chmod for the www directory
[04:29] <nickrud> Kuwanger: none that I know of that are desktop agnostic
[04:29] <Breakage> hi, whats the best video output to use with mplayer on a nvidia 6800?
[04:29] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: nothing, keep it as is
[04:29] <xTheGoat121x> Is there any way to display the current condition of a device via the GUI?  i.e. visually display "cat /proc/acpi/acer/wireless"?
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Not sure what nickrud is talking about with the incorrect owner thing
[04:30] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: I will remove mysql and install it again from the synaptic
[04:30] <Cpudan80> hellotherehere: phpmyadmin != mysql
[04:30] <nickrud> hellotherehere: and also install phpmyadmin from the repos
[04:30] <quaal> using the ubuntu vnc server (vino or whatever), does ubuntu allow you to connect to the gnome login screen through vnc?
[04:30]  * Kuwanger sighs.
[04:31] <hellotherehere> Cpudan80: nickrud: I will install both from the synaptic
[04:31] <Kuwanger> Makes me wonder why there's a /usr/share/applications, if there's no universal launcher.
[04:31] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: you can add the network monitor to the panel
[04:31] <box_> if i were to upgrade verison of ubuntu would all setting etc.. stay the same ?
[04:31] <nickrud> Kuwanger: it's much improved over the old menu stuff, and whenever the desktops get their acts together, it'll be there :)
[04:32] <nickrud> box_: yes
[04:32] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud,  well that's a bit delayed and doesn't always provide me with the info I need.  It just tells me whether I'm connected to a network or not.  I need to be sure that the device is on.
[04:32] <Fezzler> nickrud: you know about mini-itx motherboards?
[04:32] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: ah, I see. I look for the light :)
[04:32] <nickrud> Fezzler: not enough to have an opinion on your board
[04:32] <bullgard4> hellotherehere: My /var/www/ directory has got the mode 0755.
[04:32] <Kuwanger> nickrud: Sure, it's improved.  But, it's still a mess. :/
[04:33] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, I would love to.  But... apparently that's not supported yet with my chipset... or something.
[04:33] <xTheGoat121x> LoL
[04:33] <box_> 8.04 alpha4 is due on jan 31st ?
[04:34] <Aloha> is there a way to see a list of the files a package would install without installing the package?
[04:34] <nickrud> Cpudan80 hellotherehere  apache runs as the user www-data , for security. So, if apache is going to write to /var/www (like allowing file or picture uploads) the directories have to be owned by www-data so apache can write
[04:34] <GeordieB123> can anyone help me install a wireless card?
[04:34] <nickrud> box_: april , hopefully
[04:35] <nickrud> box_: sorry, misread. Not sure
[04:35] <spdf> box_: Yeh, the hardy schedule is listing Jan31st for A4
[04:35] <drambuie> Aloha, you could get a good idea by going to packages.debian.org
[04:35] <Aloha> drambuie, thnx
[04:35] <box_> tnx
[04:35] <Strangelet> My computer uses two different Linux OS's, Ubuntu and OpenGEU. I use Pidgin on both and wish to share my chat logs between both of them. I hope to change the Logs folder to /media/media/Logs, instead of the current folder (I would prefer if I didn't have to move my whole /home directory to a new one)
[04:35]  * Kuwanger goes back to contemplating the other 5+ issues he's having. :/
[04:35] <spdf> box_:
[04:36] <spdf> box_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[04:36] <trav1085> Do you use pidgin for just irc or do you use the other ones as well?
[04:36] <cube_> !hardy
[04:36] <Cpudan80> nickrud: no.... that's not true
[04:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:36] <nickrud> Aloha: install apt-file , then run apt-file update. you can search for what file is in what package, as well as  apt-file list <packagename>
[04:36] <hellotherehere> nickrud: yes I know that apache run as www-data, and if you run apache as root it can run as user so you can get virtual hosts and allow users to upload and write with their users
[04:36] <Jewsus> How do I transfer files between my computer and a computer I'm connected to with SSH? :S
[04:36] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I can upload stuff to my localhost - nothing is owned by www-root
[04:36] <Aloha> nickrud, thnx
[04:36] <spdf> trav1085: xchat is decent
[04:36] <drambuie> Strangelet, you could install geubuntu on your ubuntu setup instead of having it on a separate partition
[04:36] <trav1085> Ah, yes
[04:36] <spdf> trav1085: there's also irssi and bitchx, if you want to chat from a terminal window
[04:37] <trav1085> I've used them before
[04:37] <trav1085> Not bitchx, but irssi is pretty good as well
[04:37] <nickrud> Cpudan80: hm you using the apache2 from ubuntu?
[04:37] <Intronix> How to install .exe files and use windows soft?
[04:37] <Cpudan80> yep
[04:37] <spdf> trav1085: Ahh, I missread that, I thought you were asking if there was something other than pidgin
[04:37] <Cpudan80> nickrud: yes
[04:37] <spdf> Intronix: Wine
[04:37] <trav1085> K
[04:37] <Strangelet> drambuie: That caused quite a bit of trouble the last time I did it. :\
[04:37] <Intronix> yok
[04:37] <nickrud> Cpudan80: lik using gallery?
[04:37] <Cpudan80> nickrud: well phpbb - but yeah
[04:38] <nickrud> Cpudan80: ah, that's going into mysql isn't it?
[04:38] <Cpudan80> nickrud: no, the actual files are stored somewhere
[04:38] <drambuie> really? :>/  i haven't noticed anything with mine - what problems do you have?
[04:38] <Cpudan80> not in the DB
[04:38] <orbisvicis> how can i compile/install something that i cant remove first via apt because of tons of dependencies?
[04:39] <nickrud> Cpudan80: I couldn't with drupal, and all the docs I've ever read say the same ...
[04:39] <Cpudan80> nickrud: dunno
[04:39] <nickrud> orbisvicis: yes, but it's extremely difficult to do it without breaking something
[04:40] <nickrud> orbisvicis: difficulty does range from simple to extreme depending on the package, more accurately
[04:40] <orbisvicis> nickrud, curl, libcurl
[04:40] <pteague> how do you kill something that kill -9 doesn't kill?
[04:41] <CVD> gfloppy
[04:41] <chaosrl> is anyone here using the freewins compiz plugin? and does anyone know the channel for compiz-specific questions?
[04:41] <drambuie> Strangelet, the only problem i've noticed extra programs from e on my menus - splash screen and gdm theme - other than that a-ok
[04:41] <Strangelet> drambuie: Yahh, I personally would like to avoid that happening, I am just picky that way.. :P
[04:42] <nickrud> orbisvicis: you can probably get away with compiling them into /usr/local without problems. Make sure that /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf has usr/local/lib in it
[04:42] <drambuie> Strangelet, you can always change the splash back and change the gdm theme
[04:42] <Cpudan80> pteague: sudo kill -9 proc
[04:42] <Cpudan80> pteague: If that doesnt do it
[04:42] <PoGz> hmmm...
[04:43] <nickrud> chaosrl: #compiz-fusion
[04:44] <orbisvicis> nickrud, what is libc ... and is it possible to make the new curl the default for apps such as curlftpfs?
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: well?
[04:44] <chaosrl> nickrud: thanks, much obliged
[04:44] <orbisvicis> ..libc.conf
[04:44] <RB2> I can't seem to find what screen had the nvidia tab on it for the graphics settings. I know I saw it somewhere when I was poking around.
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: bad new
[04:44] <fatejudger> *news
[04:44] <Strangelet> drambuie: yehh, i COULD. :P
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: what?
[04:44] <jm> Is Adobe Flash plugin for Firefox broken?
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: sorry it took so long, I'm trying to multitask
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: kernel panic
[04:44] <jm> Or ok to install?  Or alternative?
[04:44] <eduard> fatejudger: okay no problem
[04:44] <fatejudger> eduard: it says it can't mount to hd(0,0) or something
[04:44] <spdf> RB2: there's nvidia-settings
[04:45] <eduard> fatejudger: does it say it's loading the linux kernel or initrd or something?
[04:45] <fatejudger> eduard: it tries to load it, then panics
[04:45] <nickrud> orbisvicis: that conf file determines where the dynamic library linker looks for libraries. It will look in /usr/local/lib first (assuming that's set up as I said) , and the command line looks in /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin so the curl run will be the compiled one
[04:45] <eduard> oh okay then
[04:45] <RB2> spdf, that works! I know I saw it integrated somewhere else but that gets me what I need. Thanks!
[04:45] <spdf> RB2: np :)
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: I tried the recovery one too, and it runs through a few items before it panics
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: same error though, with the hd(0,0) mount
[04:46] <eduard> fatejudger: the panic is it something like "no initrd"?
[04:46] <nickrud> orbisvicis: make sense to you?
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah, that sounds very familiar
[04:46] <fatejudger> eduard: I should have written it down though
[04:46] <eduard> fatejudger: no its okay
[04:47] <nickrud> orbisvicis: now, the question is why would you need a new curl, what's wrong with the ubuntu one :)
[04:47] <orbisvicis> nickrud, awesome.
[04:47] <eduard> fatejudger: can you still mount ubuntu root partition?
[04:47] <Motorsport3> how would I start Xserver remotely, so I can then use VNC to connect to it? I tried to SSH to the computer, and run startx, but that didn't work? Any ideas?
[04:48] <orbisvicis> nickrud, curlftpfs seems to have problems with 7.16.4 - keeps disconnecting / reconnecting - makes it impossible to work
[04:48] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah
[04:49] <nickrud> orbisvicis: never used that myself, have you checked the bug trackers and they say that using a later curl fixes that?
[04:49] <kenboo> Motorsport3: vncserver
[04:49] <eduard> make sure /media/disk/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists under that exact name
[04:49] <eduard> fatejudger: make sure /media/disk/boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists under that exact name
[04:49] <Motorsport3> kenboo: I'm not sure what you mean?
[04:50] <Pimpdad> jm: yes, you will need to use the binary installer provided by Adobe
[04:50] <Motorsport3> kenboo: I don't need a VNC server, I need to start Xserver on a remote computer via ssh
[04:50] <fatejudger> eduard: it doesn't
[04:50] <eduard> fatejudger: okay what are the files down there?
[04:50] <fatejudger> eduard: it's initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak
[04:51] <orbisvicis> nickrud, according to the page 7.15.2, 7.15.3, 7.15.5 is broken but 7.16.1 works ... i posted on the forum, a user reported 16.4.2 was broken ... i thought it was worth a shot
[04:51] <kenboo> Motorsport3:  ok, so you want to access :0 screen via VNC.  I think I've read about it somewhere.
[04:51] <orbisvicis> .. 7.16.4-2
[04:51] <fatejudger> eduard: the .bak part is messing it up, isn't it
[04:51] <eduard> fatejudger: okay open a terminal
[04:51] <kenboo> Motorsport3: http://old.realvnc.com/faq.html#x0
[04:51] <fatejudger> eduard: done
[04:51] <nickrud> orbisvicis: you've done the footwork. I just recommend people don't change stuff like that willy-nilly ;)
[04:51] <genii> kenboo: The client machine...*nix or windows?
[04:52] <eduard> fatejudger: "cd /media/disk/boot"
[04:52] <kenboo> genii: that's Motorsport3's question.
[04:52] <lackli> !evolution
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <genii> Motorsport3:  The client machine...*nix or windows?
[04:52] <genii> kenboo: Yeah I just caught it, thanks
[04:52] <lackli> !novell
[04:52] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:52] <lackli> !novel
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about novel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <DShepherd> "/usr/bin/expr: syntax error" -- is anyone familiar with the error on boot?
[04:53] <Motorsport3> genii: its windows, but I may connect from unix at times.
[04:53]  * DShepherd is on Gutsy
[04:53] <Motorsport3> kenboo: thanks, but that's not what I was looking for
[04:53] <nickrud> orbisvicis: one last thing, it should be done by the libcurl installer but just in case:  if the fuse thingy doesn't find the new libcurl, run  sudo ldconfig to register the new library you installed
[04:53] <eduard> fatejudger: "cp initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.bak initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic"
[04:53] <SpookyET> Where is the gnome session file located? it's not i .gnome2/session
[04:54] <fatejudger> eduard: was that the entire problem?
[04:54] <lex0> i am trying to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run....do i take off the run part or what do i do?
[04:54] <eduard> fatejudger: most likely yeah
[04:54] <eduard> fatejudger: now,
[04:54] <fatejudger> eduard: so this start-up manager I used is probably the culprit
[04:54] <tritium> lex0: you should use the ubuntu nvidia packaged drivers, not downloads off of nvidia.com, if you want support here
[04:54] <genii> Motorsport3: There's quite a bit on it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347163
[04:55] <eduard> fatejudger: paste your current /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin
[04:55] <eduard> fatejudger: just want to check
[04:56] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/m4a3a77ee
[04:56] <fatejudger> eduard: that hd(0,0) error isn't going to affect anything, will it?
[04:56] <spdf> lex0: Its best to use the packaged drivers, however, there are instructions on nvidia's website for installing from their package ('sudo sh [FILENAME]')
[04:56] <rpd> Hey guys,  where is a good place to ask some quetions about imapfilter?  The current version in the distro doesn't seem to work properly.
[04:57] <orbisvicis> nickrud, ok. One last thing... ./configure make make install will automatically place the libraries on /usr/local/lib (right?).... but if i wanted to change that, typically i run ./configure --prefix=/whatever ?
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: now tell me what subdirectories are in /media/disk/boot
[04:57] <nickrud> orbisvicis: yes
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: (try to be fast i want to go to sleep :) )
[04:57] <fatejudger> eduard: grub is the only subdirectory
[04:57] <fatejudger> eduard: no problem, I appreciate the help
[04:57] <eduard> fatejudger: is there any other subdir inside grub?
[04:58] <fatejudger> eduard: splashimages
[04:58] <eduard> fatejudger: okay thats good
[04:58] <eduard> fatejudger: now, run "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot"
[04:58] <Motorsport3> genii: That's close, I see what I can get from that post, thanks
[04:58] <lex0> spdf, i have an 8800gtx card and the nvidia accelerator for ubuntu sometimes crashes when playing games on wine
[04:58] <RB2> Does anyone know how often trackerd runs?
[04:59] <eduard> fatejudger: and "sudo update-grub"
[04:59] <genii> Motorsport3: freenx is also good
[04:59] <fatejudger> eduard: okay
[04:59] <fatejudger> eduard: restart?
[05:00] <tclineks> anyone know how to make lsof quick like it is through gnome-system-monitor's 'search for open files'
[05:00] <tclineks> ?
[05:00] <trav1085> I can't resize my NTFS partition
[05:00] <eduard> fatejudger: list of files under /media/disk/boot
[05:00] <orbisvicis> nickrud, thanks for your time. Ill install it early tomorrow when chances of success favor me
[05:00] <trav1085> I've run chkdisk /f
[05:01] <nickrud> orbisvicis: sleep helps ;)
[05:01] <spdf> lex0: Do you have the newest wine packages (they have a repo of their own for the latest)
[05:01] <badkitty> Anyone LFS?
[05:01] <trav1085> And even when I've used gparted it says something along the lines of "extended something needed (1000 > 1004 or something) not yet supported, try a smaller size"
[05:01] <orbisvicis> ; )
[05:01] <eduard> fatejudger: just look whether  initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic exists
[05:01] <fatejudger> eduard: yes
[05:01] <eduard> fatejudger: under THAT precise name
[05:01] <fatejudger> eduard: yes, it exists under that name
[05:02] <lex0> how would i access the newest package?
[05:02] <eduard> fatejudger: paste menu.lst to pastebin now
[05:02] <jrib> badkitty: there should be a channel for LFS
[05:02] <fatejudger> eduard: http://pastebin.com/d179ff0d2
[05:02] <badkitty> jrib yep ... they are all just sleeping
[05:03] <jrib> badkitty: it's offtopic here, but maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic can discuss it with you
[05:03] <badkitty> jrib: :-)
[05:03] <eduard> fatejudger: now restart, and you COME BACK TO #ubuntu AS FAST AS YOU CAN
[05:03] <eduard> fatejudger: go!
[05:04] <spdf> Run Forest, Run!
[05:04] <Shuggle> How do I get a screen shot of a single window to include the title bar?
[05:04] <jrib> Shuggle: alt-print screen
[05:04]  * genii watches all the trees running away in fascination
[05:04] <scorphus> hello, what is the name of the current release of ubuntu?
[05:05] <Motorsport3> gutsy
[05:05] <Flannel> scorphus: Ubuntu 7.10
[05:05] <eduard> gutsy gibbon
[05:05] <jrib> scorphus: 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[05:05] <Shuggle> but it doesnt inlcude the title bar
[05:05] <jrib> Shuggle: yes it does
[05:05] <jrib> or at least does here
[05:05] <spdf> Works in windows as well
[05:05] <lackli> is there a way to make an archive i download from a mailing list appear as e-mails in evolution?
[05:05] <scorphus> oh, gutsy! thanks! btw, where in the site can I get this information? I spent near 10 minutes looking for it
[05:05]  * syc_ brb dulu
[05:05] <Motorsport3> jrib: not on mine, no title bars
[05:05] <Shuggle> ok then. next question: Why isn't a screenshot of a java program leaving out the title bar?
[05:05] <jrib> Motorsport3: are you using compiz?
[05:06] <Shuggle> err... including
[05:06] <DShepherd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/3988/ -- anyone know why this is showing up in my boot log?
[05:06] <Motorsport3> jrib: yep
[05:06] <Motorsport3> I assume that's why
[05:07] <nickrud> DShepherd: try reinstalling coreutils , a stab at the problem
[05:07] <jrib> Motorsport3, Shuggle: yeah, in compiz, it does not include the title bar for me either.  With metacity, it works fine
[05:07] <Thorsten11> anyone here successsfully installed ubuntu on a vista partition with realtek 8139 NIC?  I can't get ubuntu to give me a valid mac address
[05:07] <FrankQ> Anyone know how I can troubleshoot why my media keys aren't working in Hardy, even though they did so in Gutsy? Gnome's key shortcuts recognizes an unique code for those keys and dmesg does not report nonexistant keys
[05:07] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok... i dont have the machine now though. coreutils have expr in it?
[05:07] <nickrud> DShepherd: yes
[05:07] <jrib> !hardy | FrankQ
[05:07] <ubotu> FrankQ: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:08] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok thanks
[05:08] <scorphus> among edgy, feisty and dapper, which one is the newer?
[05:08] <FrankQ> oh, thanks, jrib
[05:08] <nickrud> Scolo: feisty (alphabetic now)
[05:08] <fatejudger> eduard: THANK YOU!!!
[05:08] <fatejudger> it works!
[05:09] <jrib> scorphus: warty, hoary, breezy, dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy
[05:09] <nickrud> scorphus: feisty
[05:09] <fatejudger> eduard: so it was just that initrd thing the whole time?
[05:09] <scorphus> thanks!
[05:10] <eduard> fatejudger: im back
[05:10] <eduard> fatejudger: im very glad for you
[05:10] <chaosrl> is anyone using the freewins (freely transformable windows) plugin for compiz-fusion?
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: thanks again, I really appreciate it
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: actually, I think startup-manager crashed and leaved stuff unfinished
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: really?
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: that's my theory about it
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: well it seems to be well received by the ubuntu community
[05:11] <fatejudger> eduard: and I couldn't find anything in google about my problem
[05:11] <eduard> fatejudger: as for the .bak file, you're damn lucky you got it
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: so it seems plausible
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: tell me about it
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: at least it's there in case I ever need it again
[05:12] <eduard> fatejudger: i'll make a menu option for the LiveCD named "Recover Bootloader"
[05:12] <lex0> ok i extracted the wine folder wine-0.9.54 onto my desktop...now how do i install it..or what file do i use?
[05:12] <eduard> fatejudger: for the next release
[05:12] <scorphus> thanks again, now let me install feisty on Xen
[05:12] <fatejudger> eduard: you're a developer?
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: you had the same problem as my dad -- he wiped his bootloader while reinstalling windows
[05:13] <DShepherd> nickrud, can expr prevent tty from spawing?
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: and yes i develop stuff
[05:13] <DShepherd> spawning*
[05:13] <fatejudger> eduard: heh, seems to happen frequently with those windows installs
[05:13] <eduard> fatejudger: BTW, if you ever have to reinstall windows, keep the LiveCD
[05:14] <DShepherd> nickrud, cause none of them, ttys, seem to be spawning.. causing the gdm to barf. what do you think?
[05:14] <eduard> fatejudger: if the boot menu does not start up,
[05:14] <fatejudger> eduard: there's a reason I keep it in my cd booklet
[05:14] <eduard> fatejudger: mount your root partition,
[05:14] <fatejudger> eduard: hopefully your new option in 8.04 will make these things a little easier
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: and run these two commands "sudo mount --bind /media/disk/boot /boot" and "sudo update-grub"
[05:15] <fatejudger> eduard: okay, I'll put that info in a txt file
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: write 'em down
[05:15] <ElsaxFallida> Hye!! i would like to ask on Ubuntu how we can share Usb drive Over Lan? Thanxs
[05:15] <lex0> ok i extracted the wine folder wine-0.9.54 onto my desktop...now how do i install it..or what file do i use?
[05:15] <eduard> fatejudger: BTW, you can have linux partition access from windows
[05:16] <fatejudger> eduard: yeah, ext2ifs
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger: good, so you're safe
[05:16] <jrib> !wine > lex0 (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:16] <fatejudger> eduard: I don't use Windows though, it's just there in case I play games
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger: yeah, most of us do that
[05:16] <eduard> fatejudger:but thats all it is, a game console
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: now i have to go to sleep, tomorrow i have school
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: I used to use it full time during previous releases, but 7.10 seems to have made huge strides in usability
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: alright, thanks again
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: no problem my pleasure
[05:17] <eduard> fatejudger: cya
[05:17] <fatejudger> eduard: cya
[05:22] <usr13_> I have gtk-gnash hogging up 46% cpu   What should I do?  What is gtk-gnash ?
[05:23] <chrisbrl88> when i try to log into gnome, it crashes every time
[05:23] <chrisbrl88> i have the error log, but i dont want to flood
[05:23] <Starnestommy> usr13_: it's a flash program
[05:24] <usr13_> Starnestommy: It's got firefox hosed up I think.
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> (process:5342): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> program instead. For further details, see:
[05:24] <usr13_> Starnestommy: How to get rid of it?
[05:24] <chrisbrl88> thats the first part of the error log. look familiar at all?
[05:25] <jrib> !paste | chrisbrl88
[05:25] <ubotu> chrisbrl88: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <usr13_> Starnestommy: How to uninstall flash plugin?
[05:25] <Starnestommy> usr13_: get the PID number for it, then in a terminal do: sudo kill -9 pid-number
[05:26] <mojo> hi!  i want to install freenx server on my gutsy server (for my home)... the seveas repos have moved and don't seem to contain the package anymore.  maybe i can install from a debian repo?  if so, what debian release most closely fits gutsy?
[05:26] <Starnestommy> usr13_: then sudo apt-get remove gnash mozilla-plugin-gnash
[05:26] <chrisbrl88> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54018/
[05:26] <mojo> !freenx
[05:26] <chrisbrl88> theres the error log
[05:26] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:27] <mojo> ug... not helpful
[05:30] <pmt_> is there a way to easily get rid of the anti-aliasing ? I'd like to have clean fonts on my system
[05:31] <chrisbrl88> anyone have a chance to check out that error log yet?
[05:31] <genii>  mojo: http://www.debianadmin.com/freenx-server-and-client-installation-in-debian-etch.html
[05:31] <mojo> genii, thanks i'll check that out
[05:32] <simonova> is there a conf file somewhere that determines what programs handle what file types?
[05:32] <kromagnon> anyone familiar with the "webcam_server" software
[05:33] <pmt_> when i connect to a server via SMB and mount a share, i dont seem to see it in the list of mounted filesystems (mount); what gives ?
[05:33] <getoo> i am using an older version of ubuntu , is there a way for me to upgrade to the newest version without using a cd (live cd)
[05:33] <getoo> and just to do it online
[05:34] <chrisbrl88> getoo: synaptic
[05:34] <soldats> sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[05:34] <getoo> chrisbrl88: k .. let me have a look
[05:34] <compy> coudl anyone point me to a good site where it helps me install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:35] <soldats> !dualboot > compy
[05:35] <chrisbrl88> compy: its better to install windows first. it has a tendency to overwrite grub when installed second.
[05:35] <compy> chrisbrl88, ooooo ouch
[05:36] <compy> lol
[05:36] <compy> dang thats right windows first
[05:36] <soldats> compy, did you see the message from ubot
[05:36] <overclucker> compy: it's not the end of the world, just get a grub boot disk
[05:37] <compy> chrisbrl88, so if i have 300 gig HD how much do you think i should have for each... basically windows will be used for Steam (Portal, TF2, COD4) and other apps for school
[05:37] <soldats> !uprgade
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uprgade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <compy> overclucker, oh ok, so just incase it does i can boot w/ the disk
[05:37] <soldats> !upgrade | getoo
[05:37] <ubotu> getoo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:37] <Motorsport3> ok, nm-applet is telling me that "no network devices have been found", but if I run lspci, I see my network card listed? what gives?
[05:37] <chrisbrl88> compy: if youre just gonna use windows for basic stuff, you could also go the VMWare route... that way you dont need to repartition
[05:38] <compy> chrisbrl88, yeah i thought about that... just not sure about it handling games
[05:38] <overclucker> compy: what happens is windows overwrites the mbr, so with grub boot floppy you point the mbr back to grub
[05:39] <mojo> Psilocyde, isn't it psilocybe?
[05:39] <chrisbrl88> compy: depends which games. games that use the unreal and quake engines almost always have native linux installers and run better under linux anyway lol
[05:39] <compy> overclucker, so at this point i only have one partition.... will i need to make a new one prior to installing windows
[05:39] <Psilocyde> uh huh
[05:39] <soldats> compy, cadega can handle some games as well as wine. check their sites for mor info about running games in linix
[05:39] <overclucker> compy: yup
[05:39] <Psilocyde> ya mojo
[05:39] <compy> cedega i dont want to pay for =[
[05:39] <soldats> well wine is free
[05:39] <Psilocyde> i yhought it was a witty play
[05:40] <Psilocyde> thought
[05:40] <kromagnon> anyone good with webcam-server? http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/
[05:40] <sneakmonkey> ive got a noob question, im typing in my login password when i boot and its not working (double checked for case sensitive etc), ive reinstalled twice just to change my login and it still hasnt worked. is there some other way besides reinstalation to change the login information?
[05:40] <compy> overclucker, and if i install windows first then when isntalling ubuntu i wont need to partition it will ask me to do so right?
[05:40] <Le^stat> morning
[05:40] <chrisbrl88> compy: do you need an app to resize the partitions on your drive?
[05:40] <overclucker> compy: whats more, is that you will want windows closer to the front of disk, to get faster r/w speeds for your games
[05:41] <compy> chrisbrl88, i have one on my ubuntu
[05:41] <laughzilla> hi :) i converted a bunch of FLAC files to .mp3 so i could put them on my friend's ipod ... and then i put the dir of .mp3 files in her "Music" directory ... however, i don't see the files when i try to play them ... what am i not doing correctly?  :)
[05:41] <Le^stat> why wont ubuntu remember the terminal server licence from the licencing box?
[05:41] <user11_011>  is there no messenger in ubuntu for yahoo? pidgin fails. very bad
[05:41] <compy> overclucker, so install windows first?
[05:41] <overclucker> compy: yeah, it would be best to install windows over ubuntu, then reinstall ubuntu
[05:41] <simonova> laughzilla: what generation of ipod?
[05:41] <chrisbrl88> i still need my question answered haha
[05:41] <Tygir> hello all...i just installed 7.1 and i was trying to configure my broadcom wireless card...anyone help?
[05:41] <kromagnon> user11_011: try gaim
[05:42] <compy> overclucker, i will just do that... its not to hard to reinstall ubuntu
[05:42] <soldats> laughzilla, do "locate *.mp3 | less" in terminal and see where the mp3s are to make sure
[05:42] <laughzilla> simonova - pretty new , i don't know ipod stuff well, but it's got a nice color screen on it
[05:42] <user11_011> kromagnon: gaim itself is pidgin
[05:42] <chrisbrl88> kromagnon: gaim is now pidgin
[05:42] <soldats> renamed due to court issues
[05:42] <Tygir> i did use the auto-installer on ubuntuforums.org...and it network i used to see the wireless card, but i no longer do
[05:42] <kromagnon> ah i see
[05:43] <simonova> the newest ipods arn't compatible with linux, the mp3's need to be encoded by itunes or they won't work
[05:43] <overclucker> compy: ubuntu cd has a good partition resizer
[05:43] <laughzilla> doh!
[05:43] <soldats> sneakmonkey, did you make sure you set up your profile correctly. try it with no password
[05:43] <compy> overclucker, ok perfect
[05:43] <getoo> what is the latest ubuntu kernel ?
[05:43] <cube_> 2.6
[05:43] <soldats> 2.26
[05:43] <getoo> i got 2.6.22
[05:44] <soldats> err yea
[05:44] <compy> so if i have 300 gb HD and i want steam games and some space left over for other windows only apps (for school so cant be too large) how much should i allow for vista (i know its unfortunate)
[05:44] <cube_> i have 2.6.22 on ubuntu 8.04
[05:44] <getoo> cube_: is that the latest version
[05:44] <laughzilla> simonova - that's a bummer, thanks for letting me know.  well i do see i have something called "yamipod"  on my ubuntu box (it's not installed yet) which is supposed to make mp3 files playable on an ipod.
[05:44] <Le^stat> is there any way i can get past terminal server licencing ....the licencing machine works with windows but not with linux
[05:44] <chrisbrl88> compy: shame shame. vista is an atrocity.
[05:44] <bazhang> compy: with vlite not that much
[05:44] <soldats> IIRC its 2.6.24 but its still in dev
[05:44] <portablejim> how come k3b does not support OGG video?
[05:44] <compy> bazhang, how do you do vlite
[05:45] <getoo> soldats: anyway i can install the dev version
[05:45] <chrisbrl88> portablejim: you need the codecs
[05:45] <compy> chrisbrl88, haha i know its horrible... why do you think im on ubuntu now... i have more problems w/ vista that linux
[05:45] <getoo> i need to get my wireless to work
[05:45] <bazhang> compy: ask in the windows channel
[05:45] <soldats> getoo, whats wrong with it
[05:45] <cube_> getoo: its the developmental version gutsy 7.10 is the latest version
[05:45] <bazhang> compy:  ##windows can help with that
[05:45] <getoo> soldat wont work , and if i use the 2.6.4 should work
[05:45] <simonova> I'm not familiar with that, I just know apple won't release the code needed to convert mp3's to the format needed to work on new ipods
[05:45] <chrisbrl88> compy: give the OS you plan on using more than the other around 2/3 of the drive... that works for me
[05:46] <getoo> i did some google
[05:46] <getoo> i just dont know how to install the dev-kernel
[05:46] <soldats> getoo, what manufacturer
[05:46] <getoo> dell 1525
[05:46] <bazhang> simonova: that is not the issue with new ipods
[05:46] <laughzilla> soldats - when i run the locate command against the ipod device, it comes up empty.
[05:46] <Tygir> im in the same boat as getoo....i just bought it today...
[05:46] <compy> chrisbrl88, thanks
[05:46] <chrisbrl88> n/p
[05:47] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I have the libvorbis packages (not the -dev packages)
[05:47] <getoo> Tygir: same here
[05:47] <getoo> i got it today
[05:47] <Tygir> broadcom BCM94311
[05:47] <getoo> yeap
[05:47] <simonova> bazhang: that's how i understood it, what is the issue?
[05:47] <Tygir> yeah
[05:47] <Tygir> i have no idea...
[05:47] <overclucker> compy: well, the best layout would be 100mb ext2/100gb ntfs/197gb ext3/2gb swap
[05:47] <getoo> i dont wanna use ndiswrapper
[05:47] <Tygir> trying to get some help here
[05:47] <laughzilla> simonova - this one's from about a year ago ... you're saying it won't work on this one either ?
[05:47] <chrisbrl88> portablejim: im not sure then
[05:47] <getoo> the newer kernel works just fine
[05:47] <Tygir> think we might have to...
[05:47] <getoo> just not sure how to install it
[05:47] <soldats> laughzilla, no it should work
[05:47] <chrisbrl88> smoking time for me
[05:48] <Tygir> install what?
[05:48] <chrisbrl88> brb
[05:48] <getoo> Tygir: 2.6.4
[05:48] <simonova> laughzilla: give it a go, I got some friends that'd be thrilled if there is a way to make it work
[05:48] <compy> overclucker, thanks
[05:48] <laughzilla> soldats - so how can i make it work ?
[05:48] <soldats> getoo, youll have to get the source for the newest version and compile it yourself
[05:48] <getoo> new kernel
[05:48] <Tygir> soldats: what you mean?
[05:48] <getoo> soldats: k . thanx
[05:48] <bazhang> simonova: laughzilla http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[05:48] <laughzilla> thanks bazhang :)
[05:48] <Thorsten11> exit
[05:48] <bazhang> np
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, I think there may be a modules backport
[05:49] <laughzilla> if i manage to make it work i'll let u know, simonova :)
[05:49] <getoo> spdf: k
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, I know of that solving an issue with the microphone
[05:49] <spdf> getoo, 2.6.22 backport
[05:49] <getoo> k
[05:49] <getoo> thank u sir
[05:49] <Tygir> spdf: what do you mean...im in the same boat
[05:49] <Tygir> im so confused
[05:50] <getoo> thanx guys
[05:50] <Tygir> can anyone help me out?
[05:50] <Tygir> i thought i was in the same boat as getoo...
[05:50] <compy> bazhang, is vlite risky to do or is it 100 % safe
[05:50] <bazhang> compy: this is #ubuntu ;]
[05:51] <Luke> is something wrong w/ network manager and wpa personal conections?
[05:51] <hellotherehere> hi, I am downloading kubuntu now, I know that when its done it will ask me if I want to use kdm or gdm, which one to choose?
[05:51] <compy> bazhang, i know... do you have any history w/ it
[05:51] <soldats> hellotherehere, gdm is fine
[05:51] <soldats> its standard
[05:51] <bazhang> compy: my version of vlite is format C and install ubuntu ;]
[05:51] <chrisbrl88> the day-star will arrive in 5 hours
[05:51] <laughzilla> fyi , bazhang , simonova , soldats : this ipod has a capacity of 80 GB .. so according to that page bazhang pointed me to, it's either an ipod classic (1st generation) which i guess this isn't cuz it's got a color screen, or it's a fifth generation ipod.
[05:51] <chrisbrl88> the day-star frightens me
[05:52] <soldats> kdm or gdm will work fine but i highly doube there will be confison between
[05:52] <compy> bazhang, haha
[05:52] <pmt_> when ubuntu connects to windows shares, is it via samba ?
[05:52] <chrisbrl88> pmt_: yes
[05:52] <soldats> laughzilla, 5th gen
[05:53] <pmt_> hmm ok, so when i am connected to one of these shares, how come i dont see it mounted via 'mount' ?
[05:53] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I think it was vorbis tools.
[05:53] <laughzilla> soldats, right
[05:53] <chrisbrl88> would someone mind taking a look at my error log and helping me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54018/
[05:53] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: I installed it and it worked.
[05:53] <simonova> then it should work fine. are you mounting the ipod and cping the files, or using amarok?
[05:53] <Intronix> How to get access to add files in usr/lib/openoffice/program? Im admin on the PC!
[05:53] <soldats> 5th gens work fine
[05:54] <spdf> laughzilla: The 80gb is 5.5G
[05:54] <soldats> Intronix, use sudo
[05:54] <Hemebond> Is it no longer possible to use the "flat" desktop cube in Ubuntu?
[05:54] <laughzilla> simonova - i'm mounting the ipod and cping the files, except i notice that all the files in the Music/ dir are separated into files ie: F00 F01 F002 F003, etc,
[05:54] <Intronix> ok thx
[05:54] <bazhang> Hemebond: flat is two sides; strange cube ;]
[05:54] <theRealballchalk> hi guys
[05:54] <soldats> laughzilla, those files are how ipods register it
[05:54] <portablejim> chrisbrl88: no it was not. it did not work.
[05:55] <Hemebond> No no. I mean flat as in it's not on a 3D cube, it's just one continuous wall.
[05:55] <theRealballchalk> does ATi FireGL v3200 work with opengl under ubuntu?
[05:55] <laughzilla> simonova - right, and all the files in those dirs are mp4a ... and when i stick mp3 files in there, i don't see them come up in my Rhytmbox application (to make sure they're there, etc)
[05:55] <spdf> laughzilla: You can use Rythmbox or gtkpod to add songs to the ipod. However, with new ipods, you need new versions of libgpod to get them to work
[05:55] <compy> anyone ever go to the efnet ubuntu chat?
[05:55] <soldats> no^
[05:56] <chrisbrl88> brb
[05:56] <Tygir> in the wifi radar prog i get stuck on acquiring ip address..any idea why?
[05:56] <simonova> use rythmbox to transfer them to the ipod in the first place
[05:56] <bazhang> Hemebond: thus not a cube; the wall is still possible though--under general in ccsm adjust virtual desktops
[05:56] <laughzilla> i think i must have installed libgpod last night when i installed soundconverter, but i'll double check. been a long night :D
[05:56] <spdf> laughzilla: The libgpod included with gutsy will corrupt the database on the newer ipods
[05:56] <compy> soldats, ok reason i ask is because people are dicks there, you guys in here are actually friendly and helpful... i appreciate it.  Thansk to all ^^^
[05:56] <laughzilla> spdf - i'm on ubuntu 7.10
[05:57] <Intronix> how to use sudo?
[05:57] <soldats> compy, this server and channel are the official ones. i wouldnt be anywhere near someone on an efnet ubuntu channel
[05:57] <soldats> !sudo | Intronix
[05:57] <ubotu> Intronix: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:57] <compy> haha it makes sense... the people there arent friendly.  Their response is !google
[05:57] <compy> even though i have already checked there
[05:57] <bazhang> Intronix: sudo the command you want here; sudo apt-get install package for example
[05:58] <Intronix> ok thx!!!
[05:58] <soldats> compy, well dont ever go back there :)
[05:58] <compy> trust me i wont
[05:58] <bazhang> np
[05:58] <laughzilla> spdf - i am using ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon, in fact
[05:59] <spdf> laughzilla: Yep, thats gutsy. I actually corrupted mine before I found the packages and instructions
[05:59] <compy> after i install windows and ubuntu and am back up running... ill be back here
[05:59] <laughzilla> so should i just upgrade my libgpod ?
[05:59] <simonova> does anyone know how nautilius figures out what programs handle what file type? It's been driving me nuts for days.
[05:59] <compy> well off to bed... gotta go skiing tomorrow later and thanks
[05:59] <bazhang> bye
[05:59] <soldats> compy, lucky see you
[06:00] <spdf> laughzilla: Yes, the newer version supports the newer classics and nanos
[06:00] <laughzilla> thanks spdf i'll try to upgrade it now
[06:00] <soldats> simonova, normally if its a text document it uses gedit but usually it isnt accociated with anything so you have to set it yourself
[06:01] <spdf> laughzilla: I believe its in backports
[06:01] <laughzilla> i have 0.5.2-2  of libgpod
[06:01] <simonova> I'm trying to write a file manager in perl, I was hoping there was some handy little conf file I could use
[06:01] <bazhang> http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Hooking+Up+the+iPod this has something too
[06:02] <laughzilla> must i uninstall it before i can install it properly, spdf ? or will the "Mark for reinstallation" work fine normally?
[06:02] <spdf> laughzilla: You'll want to get get 0.6.0 at least
[06:02] <soldats> simonova, tell it to look for gedit or use mousepad if nothing else or even use vi
[06:03] <dbmoodb> hi ah i was just using synaptic (faster for many packages i know i want but all their names) and deleting things in /home/var (from another install -removing it) and apt goes oh noes can't get a lock - i look there is no /var/lib - what can i do ?
[06:03] <laughzilla> cool ... thanks bazhang and spdf .. i'll upgrade my libgpod if i can figure out how somehow, as synaptic doesn't offer me 0.6.0 in the menu of options
[06:03] <spdf> laughzilla: http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[06:03] <spdf> laughzilla: That's the site I got the packages from. He says to install them in that order, but you need to reverse them.
[06:04] <simonova> soldats: that's simple enough, but I also want to make it capable of opening many different file types.
[06:04] <spdf> laughzilla: Afterwards, it worked perfectly. Just follow the instructions
[06:04] <Luke> i cant connect to my router wirelessly. it used to work. I'm getting this error in my /var/log/messages: http://dpaste.com/33098/
[06:04] <simonova> I'll just write a script that does a bunch of checks on installed programs and make my own conf file, shouldn't be too hard.
[06:04] <laughzilla> spdf - follow the instructions, in reverse order?
[06:05] <laughzilla> ok i'll try it :)
[06:05] <Luke> NetworkManager is terrible
[06:05] <spdf> laughzilla: No, just reverse the the order you install the packages
[06:05] <dbmoodb> mm?
[06:05] <soldats> simonova, well the conf should detect what the extension is and refer it to the app
[06:05] <spdf> laughzilla: libgpod2 before libgpod-dev
[06:06] <dbmoodb> is there a way to get apt to rescan what i have installed given i now have no database for it ?
[06:06] <laughzilla> ah, ok, thanks spdf :)
[06:06] <dbmoodb> ok more error will reinstall (just installed again)
[06:06] <bazhang> dpkg -l should do
[06:07] <dbmoodb> dpkg-query: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': No such file or directory
[06:07] <dbmoodb> root@majora:~#
[06:07] <HorizonXP> hey, if there's a package in hardy that I want to use in gutsy, how do I set up apt-get to install it?
[06:07] <simonova> extension detecting isn't the hard part, I just didn't want to hard code in program names, because that would mean if new programs come out that handle the same file type, the source code would need to accommodate.
[06:07] <dbmoodb> see the problem
[06:07] <phuzion> whats that thing you can install where it gives you a bunch of different desktops on a cube?
[06:07] <dbmoodb> !cube
[06:07] <ubotu> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[06:07] <phuzion> thanks dbmoodb
[06:07] <soldats> simonova, thats why new versions of file managers come out
[06:08] <bazhang> ccsm phuzion
[06:08] <Motorsport3> how do I remove an RSA key on my local computer for a remote computer that I ssh'ed to?
[06:08] <dbmoodb> !ssh revoke
[06:08] <soldats> it should give a list of avaliable apps to use based on what the user wants to use
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh revoke - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <dbmoodb> drat
[06:08] <simonova> true... looks like I have a bit of a project
[06:09] <spdf> laughzilla: You won't need to jump through hoops to get it working in hardy though, its all updated
[06:09] <gregorovius> Motorsport3, it's under ~/.ssh/
[06:09] <soldats> simonova, things take time. and they take even more time to be up to date. good luck with it. i really hope it turns out well
[06:09] <laughzilla> spdf - good to know ...
[06:10] <Motorsport3> gregorovius: yes, but I don't know which key is for the remote pc
[06:10] <Motorsport3> the file is encrypted
[06:11] <laughzilla> spdf i should remove my libgpod2 via synaptic before i upgrade it with the files i download via the ftp from that url you showed me, right?
[06:11] <amidaniel> Alright .. I'm having a nightmarish time getting eclipse to work after upgrading to Gutsy. Every time I open a file I get "Unable to create this part due to an internal error ... ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin"
[06:11] <gregorovius> it's not encrypted, it's just the IDs of the hosts
[06:11] <Ububegin> how do you escape from a cat or less command
[06:11] <amidaniel> Under the plugin manager I've got big red X's next to Eclipse Product SDK and its children
[06:11] <soldats> Ububegin, ctrl+c or q
[06:12] <amidaniel> Have reinstalled .. no help. Disabled subclipse, again no help. Any ideas?
[06:12] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with changing permission for mounted usb volumes so i can read and write using gnome/nautilus
[06:12] <Ububegin> soldats: thanks , q seemes to work
[06:12] <soldats> cool
[06:13] <newb> where can i get WICD?
[06:13] <newb> i tried synaptic
[06:13] <spdf> laughzilla: No need, just install them
[06:14] <bazhang> you have to google for the website newb
[06:14] <Motorsport3> newb, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <laughzilla> cool, thanks spdf i am trying it now
[06:14] <newb> ok...how can i install it?
[06:14] <Shuggle> does anyone here use eclipse?
[06:14] <bazhang> heh
[06:14] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Yes, having issues with it ATM
[06:15] <spdf> newb, they have a repo: deb http://apt.wicd.net gutsy extras
[06:15] <Hemebond> Can anyone remember what the old option name was for having a flat, instead of cube, desktop?
[06:15] <Motorsport3> newb, follow the instructions on the site, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=faq#how_do_i_install_wicd
[06:15] <cvd_> Its there any custom area screenshot prog out there? and no the gnome screenshot its not a custom are screenshot
[06:15] <spdf> newb, also take a look at http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[06:15] <bazhang> Hemebond: wall
[06:15] <Hemebond> bazhang: Really? Hmm okay.
[06:15] <Shuggle> amidaniel: what problems? is your print button disabled?
[06:16] <snakeyes> could someone direct me to an appropriate chatroom suitable for newbie/recent convert so I can get the skinny on virtualization/emulation for GIS software
[06:16] <snakeyes> ?
[06:16] <Motorsport3> GIS?
[06:16] <bazhang> gis? snakeyes
[06:16] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Hmm ... haven't checked that :) Now that you mention it, yes, it is :)) .. Add that to my list of things that aren't working :))
[06:16] <snakeyes> Geographic Information Systems (like Linux GRASS) but I need to get info on ESRI products
[06:16] <amidaniel> Is there an easy way to downgrade eclipse using apt-get?
[06:17] <Shuggle> amidaniel: yeah. i'm needing to print some code for class, but i have to use another program to print it
[06:17] <bazhang> !info eclipse
[06:17] <ubotu> eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[06:17] <newb> spdf: thanks man i got that installed...can you offer up any help in making my BCM94311 card work?
[06:17] <bazhang> see above amidaniel
[06:17] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Did you recently upgrade?
[06:17] <amidaniel> bazhang: Um .. yeah, that's not really any help :)
[06:18] <Shuggle> amidaniel: no. i just installed using the "add/remove" program
[06:18] <bazhang> !downgrade | amidaniel
[06:18] <ubotu> amidaniel: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[06:18] <Shuggle> amidaniel: before that i installed the sun java runtime to get jgrasp to work
[06:18] <amidaniel> bazhang: Well, upgrading broke my system. Now I would like to unupgrade
[06:18] <bazhang> amidaniel: likely true for packages as well
[06:19] <amidaniel> (Eclipse is also just one of many things that the upgrade broke.)
[06:19] <Shuggle> amidaniel: have you tried to completely un-install it including the settings programs?
[06:19] <newb> wicd gets stuck at obtaining ip address...
[06:19] <amidaniel> Shuggle: Yup.
[06:19] <spdf> newb, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649038
[06:19] <spdf> newb, there's some pointers there
[06:20] <snakeyes> k
[06:20] <Shuggle> amidaniel: odd. all I know is i have 7.10 and installed sun java jdk then eclipse
[06:20] <Shuggle> amidaniel: however, i did not upgrade, jsut install
[06:20] <Shuggle> gtg though
[06:20] <phuzion> how can I get compiz running without needing to have a terminal window open?
[06:21] <amidaniel> Yup, that's my exact setup atm ... Ubuntu 7.10 Eclipse 3.2.2
[06:21] <bazhang> alt f2 phuzion
[06:21] <amidaniel> Completely removing again and reinstalling
[06:22] <EmmerP_> hi
[06:22] <overclucker> phuzion: you could daemonise it(just append a & to the command)
[06:22] <Hemebond> bazhang: I don't think that's it. Or it has changed.
[06:22] <EmmerP> hi again
[06:22] <phuzion> and how do I get it to start at boot?
[06:22] <spdf> EmmerP: Hello
[06:23] <EmmerP> hi spdf
[06:23] <CVD> why nobody tell me about the run import name.png?
[06:23] <Hemebond> bazhang: Desktop wall now just zooms out showing you your desktops.
[06:23] <bazhang> Hemebond: first need to adjust the number of virtual horizontal desktops
[06:23] <EmmerP> anybody usinghibernate?
[06:23] <Hemebond> bazhang: I have 4.
[06:24] <phuzion> hmm, now my top and bottom menubars are gone, wtf
[06:24] <Fanny> Hello
[06:24] <bazhang> Hemebond: 4 = cube ;]
[06:24] <Ademan> xinetd vs inetd, anyone have any experience one way or another?
[06:24] <Fanny> Nice to join
[06:24] <mi> hsize 4 vsize 1 numeber desktop 1
[06:24] <mi> then u get cube
[06:24] <Hemebond> Yeah. In old Compiz/Beryl versions there was an option under the cube settings to flatten the cube.
[06:25] <Hemebond> So when you "rotated" you actually just scrolled left/right.
[06:25] <MrNaz> which ISO do i use for installing on a C2D laptop? just the standard i386 one ?
[06:25] <phuzion> MrNaz, yes
[06:25] <MrNaz> phuzion thanks
[06:25] <phuzion> Yep
[06:26] <phuzion> C2D is still technically i386 architecture
[06:27] <newb> spfd: thanks man that helps alot, now i just need to figure out where to get the b43-fwcutter from
[06:27] <newb> spfd: could you look here and point out to me which one i should download?
[06:27] <spdf> newb: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:27] <spdf> newb: its in the universe repo
[06:27] <phuzion> extreme
[06:27] <phuzion> ahhh
[06:27] <newb> spfd: i thought i already have that one and it doesnt work...
[06:28] <phuzion> Ok, Xchat is taking over the entire screen after I enabled compiz, any ideas what to do?
[06:28] <spdf> newb, though, those instructions are for the 2.6.24 kernel :S
[06:29] <mi> http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5aw9.png
[06:29] <lupos`>  /ban
[06:31] <spdf> newb, there's a link in the first post to another post for updating your kernel as well
[06:31] <spdf> newb, in fact, that link points to a more complete fix for b43 it appears
[06:32] <phuzion> so, no one's got anything for my issue?  Now firefox is doing it on my other desktop, as well
[06:32] <Hemebond> phuzion: What do you mean "taking over"?
[06:33] <newb> spdf: what site is that again? sorry too many open!
[06:33] <novato_br> how can I upgrade my pigding automatically ?
[06:33] <spdf> newb, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755
[06:33] <overclucker> phuzion: either restart ubuntu, or restart gdm
[06:33] <phuzion> its fullscreen, and without using alt-tab to get out of it, I can't minimize, or otherwise switch out of the program
[06:33] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with changing permission for mounted usb volumes so i can read and write using gnome/nautilus
[06:33] <phuzion> novato_br, pidgin IM?
[06:33] <novato_br> phuzion, yeah
[06:33] <spdf> phuzion: alt-space to bring up the windows menu
[06:33] <novato_br> phuzion, how can i do that?
[06:33] <spdf> phuzion: can you restore/unmaxmize there?
[06:33] <phuzion> novato_br, sudo apt-get update pidgin
[06:34] <novato_br> great, phuzion
[06:34] <phuzion> spdf, nothing happens with alt-space
[06:34] <Ububegin> hi guys, i ran this command...
[06:34] <Ububegin> sudo ./simple_axis_server 9090
[06:34] <Ububegin> sudo: ./simple_axis_server: command not found  //got this error,but this is clearly present in the directory... anyone knoes
[06:34] <novato_br> but in repo is it pidgin.im is on 2.3.1 version ?
[06:34] <phuzion> Ububegin, have you done chmod a+x simple_axis_server?
[06:34] <Hemebond> Oops.
[06:35] <doktoreas> hello
[06:35] <doktoreas> how can i avoid installing all language while getting one package?
[06:35] <Ububegin> phuzion : no, i will do that... now
[06:35] <spdf> phuzion: Hmm.. Isn't there a "Minimize" plugin for compiz? check the compiz settings
[06:35] <novato_br> phuzion, doesn't working
[06:35] <phuzion> novato_br, sorry, its sudo apt-get install pidgin
[06:35] <spdf> phuzion: I'm just shelled in, so I can't check my desktop.
[06:36] <novato_br> phuzion, i want not to install
[06:36] <novato_br> phuzion, i want upgrade it
[06:36] <Ububegin> phuzion: thanks, at least i get a diff error now....
[06:36] <newb> spdf: so i first have to update my kernel to 2.6.24?
[06:36] <phuzion> novato_br, if it needs updating, install will update it
[06:36] <novato_br> ok
[06:37] <doktoreas> i am installing lyx, but it brings inside all language
[06:37] <Samui> anyone know why GLX would suddenly start crashing X?
[06:37] <doktoreas> i need only italian and english :D
[06:37] <spdf> newb, that's what that particular person has done. The newer kernel includes newer modules for your particular card
[06:37] <Samui> Literally, anything that I run that involves GLX -- glxinfo, glxgears, etc.... would just crash X.
[06:37] <newb> i see...
[06:37] <spdf> novato_br: The version for gutsy is 2.2, hardy has 2.3. There's no backport as far as I can see though
[06:38] <novato_br> i'm not gutsy, spdf
[06:38] <Hemebond> !
[06:38] <Samui> I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, video card Nvidia GeForce 7300GS.
[06:38] <novato_br> i'm on feisty fawn
[06:38] <Samui> Any input on this is appreciated.
[06:38] <Hemebond> Why does the compiz-compcomm-plugins-main package want to remove compiz?
[06:38] <phuzion> spdf, is it necessary to restart compiz to get the minimize plugin working right or something?
[06:39] <laughzilla> spdf - ok so i did the upgrade according to those instrux and ran rhythmbox again ... now how do i import my mp3 files to the ipod ?  i tried to do "import directory" but it did not add anything as far as i can see, to the rhytmbox list of audio files in the ipod.
[06:39] <phuzion> and yeah, all my programs are missing the top bar now, no title, no minimize, nothing
[06:39] <phuzion> and they're locked in place on my screen
[06:40] <spdf> phuzion: metacity crashed then. You'll ahve to restart X, or ALT-F2, and type in metacity
[06:40] <bazhang> phuzion: open ccsm and check move windows plugin
[06:40] <Hemebond> Isn't it metacity --replace?
[06:40] <Ububegin> phuzion: i think it is a platform error... U have any idea on this error by any chance
[06:40] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:40] <spdf> Hemebond: If something else is running, I belive
[06:40] <Hemebond> Oh. He has decorations... nvm then.
[06:41] <spdf> laughzilla: You can drag the directory into the rhythmbox window I believe, the add folder worked for me though
[06:41] <phuzion> ok, alt-f2 isn't opening now
[06:41] <phuzion> so, is there a way to do this through terminal?  just metacity &
[06:41] <phuzion> ?
[06:41] <spdf> phuzion: Yeh, that'll work
[06:42] <spdf> phuzion: or add the run command applet to yuor panel
[06:42] <phuzion> ok, it said i need to replace the current window manager
[06:42] <spdf> phuzion: metacity --replace &
[06:42] <phuzion> Ok, I still have no title bar on Xchat
[06:43] <spdf> phuzion: phuzion, hmm.. perhaps you should restart gnome then
[06:43] <phuzion> That would be gdm --restart?
[06:43] <CVD> can i use fat32 in Home?
[06:43] <CVD> for
[06:43] <nickrud> CVD: no
[06:44] <spdf> phuzion: ctrl-alt-backspace'll do it quick and dirty for you, or just log out
[06:44] <nickrud> CVD: not ntfs, either ;)
[06:44] <CVD> ok thanks
[06:45] <brandon__> is there any reason why sound events do not work?
[06:45] <phuzion> ok, I'm back
[06:45] <spdf> phuzion: How's it look now?
[06:45] <phuzion> spdf, everything works
[06:45] <phuzion> at least, as far as I can see
[06:45] <phuzion> let me run some stuff real quick and test it
[06:45] <brandon__> how do you get sound events to work?
[06:45] <phuzion> !ask
[06:46] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:46] <phuzion> er, wrong command
[06:46] <spdf> phuzion: nice, you'll want to make sure some of those plugins are enabled (ie. Resize, Move, Minimize)
[06:46] <brandon__> the login sound works but nothing else
[06:46] <spdf> brandon__: Events for what?
[06:46] <nickrud> brandon__: system->prefs->sounds sounds tab
[06:46] <brandon__> yeah
[06:46] <brandon__> i set them all
[06:46] <brandon__> i can preview
[06:47] <brandon__> but it doesnt take effect
[06:47] <brandon__> other than the login sound
[06:47] <brandon__> i check both boxes at the top
[06:47] <brandon__> and have logged in and out
[06:47] <Ashex> is there somewhere I can poke at copy paste?
[06:47] <spdf> !enter
[06:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:47] <Ashex> for some reason why I copy something, I just paste ŸŸ
[06:47] <brandon__> sorry spdf
[06:47] <spdf> np :)
[06:48] <brandon__> i shall learn the , key
[06:48] <spdf> I have to keep my shell window small so I can see whats behind it, so too many lines and I have to page up :P
[06:48] <brandon__> i understand
[06:48] <Ashex> spdf, yakuake?
[06:48] <spdf> Ashex: Sneeze?
[06:48] <laughzilla> spdf  it does not work by dragging the dir to rhythmbox, however, it works by "dragging" the song files themselves from the .mp3 dir on my hdd to the songlist in rhythmbox  !!  and it works !! i'm listening now to one of the songs on the ipod (after having safely disconnected it)  :)  THANK YOU dudes!!!  i appreciate this very much, and i know my friend will be very glad!  :)
[06:48] <Ashex> hehe
[06:48] <phuzion> spdf, ok, what if I want to use animations?  it says that minimize already provides a feature
[06:49] <Ashex> spdf, it's a terminal that hides at the top of the screen, hit a hotkey to have it drop down
[06:49] <spdf> phuzion: Animations takes care of it
[06:49] <bazhang> nice work laughzilla
[06:49] <brandon__> any ideas spdf?
[06:49] <brandon__> on my deal?
[06:49] <phuzion> spdf,  Oh, so its ok to disable minimize?
[06:49] <spdf> Ashex: Using PuTTY
[06:49] <soldats> laughzilla, awesome
[06:49] <spdf> phuzion: Yeh, it replaces it
[06:49] <spdf> laughzilla: There you go man, np
[06:49] <spdf> laughzilla: Took me an afternoon tog et that far, glad I could get you up and running
[06:49] <singlesun> hello everyone, i have a series of questions... i am about to switch over all the computers in my house to ubuntu... however... before doing so, I am concerned about 1 thing, the router that everyone uses is a Belkin wireless G router.. the driver files and installation CD will not run on Ubunutu... is there a solution for this?
[06:50] <singlesun> nickrud, good timing... lol.. you are the #1 problem solver.. lol
[06:50] <spdf> singlesun: You shouldn't need to install any software to use the router
[06:50] <Ububegin> Hey anyone knows ... how could this genre of error usually means
[06:50] <brandon__> singlesun.. dont need it
[06:50] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ...thanks
[06:50] <phuzion> singlesun, there is more than likely a web based interface that you can use to administrate the router
[06:50] <nickrud> brandon__: I hadn't tried the sound events, but they aren't working here either
[06:50] <Ashex> spdf, ah, ouches
[06:50] <brandon__> nickrud, its kinda weird huh
[06:51] <singlesun> spdf, brandon_, phuzion there is 1 problem, i forgot the password to the router ;)
[06:51] <nickrud> brandon__: yes. I would have sworn I had it working once. Looking for a bug listing ...
[06:51] <spdf> brandon__: I don't use sound events to eb honest, I almost always have music or something playing so its kind of distracting
[06:51] <soldats> singlesun, just do it if it doesnt work which i dont know why it wouldnt a decent linksys wireless is very cheap
[06:51] <spdf> singlesun: Reset it (there's almost always a little pen sized hole on the router)
[06:51] <phuzion> singlesun, then an option is to reset the router
[06:51]  * laughzilla metaphysically emits good karma towards bazhang, soldats, spdf, nickrud, and all others who were so helpful :) 
[06:51] <bazhang> haha
[06:51] <brandon__> spdf, yeah, but i just download an awesome sound pack
[06:51] <singlesun> spdf, brandon_, phuzion so i will have to reset the router, and then without being able to use driver software to reconfigure router?
[06:51] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[06:52]  * soldats mentally hugs laughzilla 
[06:52]  * nickrud basks in karma
[06:52] <phuzion> singlesun, reset the router, and administrate it from http://192.168.1.1
[06:52] <brandon__> 192.168.1.1 in your browser... may be differnt for yours though
[06:52] <newb> spdf: so i just have to update my kernel and get the new firmware and it should work?
[06:52] <soldats> you always do that nickrud
[06:52] <soldats> :P
[06:52] <spdf> newb: According to that person's post, thats what they needed to do
[06:52] <phuzion> Ok, so how do I add more desktops, I want an actual cube in Compiz
[06:52] <nickrud> soldats: according to launchpad, I have no karma , it all leaked way
[06:52] <singlesun> phuzion, but I have to connect the router directly to my ethernet port right? to do that?
[06:53] <nickrud> *away
[06:53] <Hemebond> Anyone else remember the name for the option to have a "flat cube" where "rotating" just scrolled along your desktops?
[06:53] <soldats> :(
[06:53] <soldats> i are sorry
[06:53] <newb> spdf: well i updated the kernel and followed his instructions for the firmware update...
[06:53] <spdf> phuzion: Enable the cube and rotate cube plugins
[06:53] <phuzion> singlesun, not necessarily, I can administrate my WRT54G via wifi
[06:53] <newb> spdf; now how can i tell if it worked?
[06:53] <CVD> http://tinyurl.com/yo9jxm
[06:53] <spdf> newb: You followed all of the instructions?
[06:53] <newb> spdf: yeah..
[06:53] <phuzion> spdf, I have those on, I just don't have enough desktops
[06:53] <laughzilla> yeah and fyi the files i copied over were:   The Complete Woodstock  (211 of the 237 known songs)
[06:53] <brandon__> isnt it desktop wall or plane hembond?
[06:53] <spdf> phuzion: Go to the general options
[06:53] <bod_> hey guys, whats the command to take a backup of my system, making sure i DONT backup the media folder (so i dont back up my ohter HD) ?
[06:53] <Hemebond> brandon_: Nope.
[06:54] <spdf> phuzion: Somewhere in there there's the setting for changing the number of horizontal desktops
[06:54] <Ububegin> I just found that this error is due to absence of the library, but libaxis_server.so is present in another folder.... So wats happening...
[06:54] <Ububegin> ./simple_axis_server: error while loading shared libraries: libaxis_server.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ...thanks
[06:54] <newb> spdf: it was a python script...wasnt that hard...
[06:54] <luddite> hello
[06:54] <brandon__> i think if you hold a certain key combo it does it
[06:54] <phuzion> spdf, wow thanks
[06:54] <singlesun> phuzion, hmmm ... so basically reset this thing by unplugging, and holding a pin down in the reset ... then connect to router via IP, and set up as an access point? <-- (and remember password)
[06:54] <doktoreas> anyone knows why texlive package install ALL language support?
[06:54] <spdf> newb: Aight, well, should be good after a restart if you've followed all of the instructions
[06:54] <Hemebond> brandon__: Those are just for moving around. This was (possibly in Beryl) a way of flattening the cube into a continuous series of desktops.
[06:54] <luddite> i used to have a program that you could click that would open up many programs at once(maybe it was a script). Can anyone recall its name?
[06:55] <brandon__> hemebond, no i accidentally did that one time in compiz i believe
[06:55] <bazhang> Hemebond: ctrl alt down arrow
[06:55] <Hemebond> brandon__: By holding down the "initiate" button, I could just drag the mouse left/right to move along the desktops.
[06:55] <phuzion> singlesun, no, don't unplug
[06:55] <brandon__> hemebond, let me check
[06:55] <Ububegin> Seems u guys r busy now.... maybe i will come back later....
[06:55] <Hemebond> bazhang: That unwraps it, but only to left you move windows and then zoom back into a desktop.
[06:55] <bod_> bazhang, try super+e   is another compiz desktop thing
[06:55] <Hemebond> only to *let
[06:55] <Himar> Anyone who can help me with a problem conserning running X on a 7800 Nvidia, with a dual screen, monitor and TV (Can give info if needed)
[06:56] <spdf> I'm a fan of the expo wall myself
[06:56] <Himar> Pmsg
[06:56] <nox-Hand> Installing some software, and I need python-clutter-0.5-0, where there are libclutter-0.5-0, and all the other 0.5-0 packages available in the debian.o-hand.com gutsy/ repo, but just not that single one - anone know where I might find it?
[06:56] <newb> spdf: am i supposed to do the restricted drivers thing now? enable that?
[06:56] <bod_> newb,  yess,. enable it
[06:56] <spdf> newb: I think thats just if you have an nvidia card
[06:56] <singlesun> phuzion, one sec, let me boot up my other computer... you say you can administer the router from another wireless adapter based pc?
[06:56] <phuzion> most likely
[06:56] <phuzion> it really depends on the manufacturer's settings
[06:57] <singlesun> phuzion, well im booting the old tank laptop quick
[06:57] <nickrud> Ububegin: the command can't find the library, try  LD_PATH=/path/to/folder:$LDPATH ./simple-axis-server
[06:57] <bod_> bazhang, do you know the command to take a backup of my system?
[06:57] <spdf> newb, just do the kernel update and then follow the B43 instructions under 'Miscellaneous fixes'
[06:57] <Himar> I have been googling and trying 7 diffrent distroes the last month, but no luck
[06:57] <soldats> normally in the router you can specify if you can access from wifi
[06:57] <Hemebond> In fact! You could even have it zoom out the way you can with the normal cube, which means you then zoomed out to see a strip of desktops you could slide left/right.
[06:57] <Himar> Ubuntu is what is closest
[06:57] <nickrud> Ububegin: /path/to/folder:$LD_PATH that is
[06:57] <Hemebond> Releasing the button zoomed back in/snapped to the focused desktop.
[06:57] <singlesun> soldats, well lets hope it still thinks i can... lol
[06:57] <bazhang> !info rbackup
[06:57] <ubotu> Package rbackup does not exist in gutsy
[06:57] <brandon__> super+e....
[06:58] <bod_> Hemebond, alt+arrowdown    or    super(windows key)+e
[06:58] <brandon__> hemebond
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: That's not it.
[06:58] <Himar> Anyone got a Nvidia 7800GTX 512 connected to a HDTV ?
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: This was a cube option in previous versions (may have been Beryl).
[06:58] <CVD> checkinstall is good to create .deb?
[06:58] <soldats> singlesun, well old the reset button for like 12 seconds then when you get the passwrod prompt type admin for name and admin for password
[06:58] <luddite> anyone know how to open multiple programs in single click?
[06:58] <bazhang> bod_:  there is info at !backup ;]
[06:58] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[06:58] <Ububegin> nickrud: Gimme a second, lemme digest what you are saying...
[06:58] <Hemebond> bod_: And worked a little differently.
[06:58] <singlesun> soldats, still waiting for laptop to boot, as soon as its up and running i will update ;)
[06:58] <soldats> luddite, with a script its possible
[06:58] <bod_> Hemebond, they are the only two that let you see all 4 desktops as a strip and be able to move them,.,.to my knowledge
[06:58] <newb> spdf: i did follow the instructions....but how do i enable the wireless now?
[06:59] <bod_> bazhang, cheers m8
[06:59] <luddite> soldats: i had it on 7.04, but after upgrade its gone
[06:59] <brandon__> ctrl alt dwn
[06:59] <brandon__> that does it
[06:59] <brandon__> unfold cube
[06:59] <bazhang> np ;]
[06:59] <Ububegin> nickrud: it should be path to folder or file itself
[07:00]  * soldats shrugs shoulders
[07:00] <Hemebond> brandon__: Is it a continuous band of desktops that let you scroll left/right along them?
[07:00] <bazhang> got to work--back in a while
[07:00] <levander> Anyone here run torrentflux?  Is it normal for mysqld_safe to peg one of my CPU cores when I'm running torrentflux?
[07:00] <spdf> newb, the instructions aliased it to eth1. So, using the network manager, you should be able to use eth1 to connect
[07:00] <nickrud> Ububegin: just like commands, libraries have paths. The standard is /usr/local/lib:/usr/lib , the folders that libraries are found in
[07:00] <bod_> brandon__,  i suggested that he said no,.,. maybe it was something beryl had that compiz doesnt?  seems strange
[07:00] <soldats> no clue luddite sounds like a script to me
[07:00] <CVD> why i always hada to use the left ALT and not the Right?
[07:00] <brandon__> yeah
[07:00] <brandon__> hemebond.. that is it
[07:00] <Hemebond> brandon__: It's not.
[07:00] <bod_> Hemebond, it will only have been as many desktops as you have set ,.,. and like we say,. ctrl+alt+arrowdown   super+e    do that
[07:01] <napsy_> hello. Is there a way to run firefox remotely (from ssh) and redirect the video to the local x server (where the ssh daemon resides)?
[07:01] <newb> spdf: yeah that would make sense...now in the network manager tab i have 2 wired connections...no wireless
[07:01] <bazhang> Hemebond: yup that is it
[07:01] <spdf> newb, So, when you boot into the 2.6.24 kernel (the grub menu will have that, and your old 2.6.22 kernel), the b43 module will load up and you should be able to use it
[07:01] <Hemebond> bod_: That's not it. I've been through all the plugins in Compiz Fusion, I don't think it's there at all. This was a Cube plugin option.
[07:01] <brandon__> hemebond, also... if you talented you can press middle mouse button, then alt ctrl down, and scroll with you mouse
[07:01] <singlesun> phuzion, soldats i got a timeout when i tried to connect to the router from my laptop by using 192.168.1.1
[07:01] <soldats> napsy_, with X forwarding its possible but im not fluent in ssh X forwarding
[07:01] <bazhang> going now for real..
[07:02] <soldats> singlesun, try 192.168.15.1
[07:02] <bod_> Hemebond, explain exacty what you think it did,. and what is a cube option,. because its always a cube, so its always a cube option ,.,.although mines a hexagon atm,.,.lol
[07:02] <napsy_> soldats: I don't want to display firefox to my x server
[07:02] <Ububegin> nickrud: whoa, wat a solution... no errors now... but do i have to do this all the time....
[07:02] <singlesun> soldats, trying now
[07:02] <napsy_> i want it to show on the server's x server
[07:02] <brandon__> what kind of router was it?
[07:02] <singlesun> soldats, no luck... should i reset it now?
[07:03] <soldats> try it
[07:03] <Hemebond> bod_: This was an option for the Cube plugin, like "inside cube" that made it flat, also allowing wrap-around, so you could just scroll continuously along your desktops.
[07:03] <singlesun> brandon_, belking wireless G
[07:03] <singlesun> soldats, well lets hope i dont lose connection... if i do... hopefully i will be back.. lol
[07:03] <bod_> Hemebond, 1 sec,.,.checking now
[07:03] <soldats> youll lose connection but just come back
[07:04] <bod_> Hemebond, in the Cube plugin there is an unfold cube ?
[07:04] <Hemebond> bod_: I don't believe it's available in Compiz Fusion; but if I can remember the name of the option perhaps I can find it somewhere else. Perhaps in another plugin not included in the Ubuntu package.
[07:04] <soldats> napsy_, afaik its possible but im not fluent with it sorry
[07:04] <Hemebond> bod_: Yeah, but that just unwraps the cube to let you pick a desktop.
[07:04] <brandon__> singlesun.. model?
[07:05] <Hemebond> bod_: And move windows about, then select a desktop to zoom back into.
[07:05] <nickrud> Ububegin: you can create an alias in ~/.bashrc for that:  alias sas="LD_PATH ..... /path/to/simple-axis-server" or add the folder path to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/simple-axis-server (create the file) , that's where library paths are defined. If you decide to do the second, run sudo ldconfig after adding the new file
[07:05] <spdf> singlesun: Check your ip with ifconfig, change the last number to 1, and try
[07:05] <newb> spdf: so i can choose which kernel to boot into? or it will auto boot into 2.6.24?
[07:06] <spdf> newb: hit esc when it comes up with the grub messaeg, you'll get a menu, select 2.6.24
[07:06] <bod_> Hemebond, if this plugin was in beryl, that means its probably either already in compiz or is compatible,. you could *theoreticly* package the plugin from an old version of beryl then add it as an extra plugin to compiz
[07:06] <newb> spdf: while its booting?
[07:06] <spdf> newb: Just after POST (the bios messages, and such), it says something about hitting ESC for grub menu, and counts down from 3
[07:07] <Ububegin> nickrud: sweet man... tks
[07:07] <nickrud> Ububegin: yw
[07:07] <newb> spdf: oh yea...i got it that time...so now i know its booting into 2.6.24
[07:07] <newb> spdf: so your saying it should automatically work?
[07:08] <Ububegin> Ububegin: what does yw mean
[07:08] <spdf> newb: according to the instructions it should
[07:08] <nickrud> Ububegin: you're welcome
[07:08] <Ububegin> nickrud : :D
[07:10] <brandon__> singlesun
[07:10] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[07:10] <brandon__> 192.168.2.1 this is your ip single sun
[07:10] <newb> spdf: I GOT IT TO WORK!!!! WOW MAN THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!
[07:10] <spdf> newb, :D
[07:11] <newb> spdf: i cant even explain how happy i am right now
[07:11] <spdf> newb, Glad I could find that for you
[07:11] <newb> spdf: this is why i love linux...people helping people
[07:11] <spdf> nickrud: we're on a roll tonight 'eh
[07:11] <newb> spdf: i really appreciate your help man, seriously...
[07:11] <brandon__> spdf, still hasnt solved my problem
[07:11] <brandon__> :P i cant keep it in my pants much longer buddy
[07:11] <spdf> newb, not a problem, thank the person on the forums by clicking the thanks link
[07:11] <newb> spdf: your the reason i came to linux in the first place, people like you...
[07:12] <newb> spdf: already done that!
[07:12] <newb> spdf: quick question, am i going to have to click ESC every time i boot to ensure that it boots into the 2.6.24 kernel?
[07:12] <spdf> newb, good stuff, when you upgrade to Hardy, it'll work for you out of box
[07:12] <newb> spdf: what do you mean upgrade to hardy?
[07:12] <brandon__> is hardy worth getting right now?
[07:12] <spdf> newb, there's an option you can add to grub (if its not already enabled) to savedefault
[07:13] <spdf> newb, hardy, the next version of ubuntu coming out in April
[07:13] <broken__> Yea?
[07:14] <spdf> newb, off the top of my head the line is "default saved"
[07:14] <cmec> can anyone tell me software for designing poster plz
[07:14] <newb> spdf: ahhh ok..how do i add something to GRUB?
[07:14] <soldats> cmec, poster?
[07:14] <newb> spdf: also, how come wicd manager isn't finding any other networks?
[07:15] <soldats> cmec, the gimp or inkscape can create poster size images
[07:16] <spdf> newb, I'm not sure, I don't acutally have a wifi card
[07:16] <spdf> newb: (which, in turn, means I don't use wicd)
[07:17] <spdf> newb, does the network manager find them alright though?
[07:17] <newb> spdf: what do you mean network manager finding them?
[07:17] <spdf> newb, ubuntu's network manager, does it list networks?
[07:18] <spdf> newb, perhaps wicd is setup on the wrong interface, or something. I'm not really sure to be honest
[07:18] <newb> spdf, the administration>network
[07:18] <newb> is that what you mean?
[07:19] <bod_> Hey guys i have a problem,.,. i installed a package called backuppc and now i want to remove it but i cant,. synaptic says :E: backuppc: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2   and if i try to sudo aptitude purge backuppc  i get an error,.,.,. how do i remove an unremoveable package?
[07:20] <spdf> bod_: Hmm.. Are you running another instance of synaptic/apt/dpkg?
[07:21] <bod_> spdf, no its not that error,. it seems it cant remove backuppc because backuppc itself is corrupt maybe,. il try installing it and configuring it again and try removing it after that
[07:22] <hypnus9> Hi room. I'm trying to set up phpmyadmin on Ubuntu Gutsy SE, and I can't figure out how to get into it to set the root passwords. Can someone help?
[07:22] <bod_> spdf, i reinstalled the package and then synaptic removed it,.,. weird ,. it was like because i didnt configure it properly it wouldnt remove itself,.,.,.these programs are getting smarter,. soon we wont be able to remove them,.,.lol,.,. cheers
[07:22] <DRebellion> hmmm... this is odd... if i set 640x480 in /etc/usplash.conf, it shows the splash screen at shutdown, but my monitor still tells me it can't display this video mode at startup :/
[07:23] <newb> where for the wireless would i see other networks?
[07:23] <spdf> hypnus9: There's a mysql-secure-installation or something along those lines that'll walk you through that
[07:24] <hypnus9> ok
[07:24] <spdf> newb: try "iwlist eth1 scanning", I believe. I don't have much experience with wifi stuff though
[07:25] <DRebellion> newb: spdf: that needs to be root to initiate a new scan
[07:25] <spdf> newb, sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> how do i rip a dvd
[07:26] <spdf> jay-oh-en: I use dvd::rip
[07:26] <jay-oh-en> spdf, whats that file name in repos
[07:27] <spdf> jay-oh-en: dvdrip, in multiverse
[07:27] <newb> awesome....you got it again
[07:27] <newb> thanks guys!
[07:27] <spdf> newb: Enjoy
[07:28] <spdf> jay-oh-en: You'll need the libdvdcss stuff, so you should get playback working if you haven't already
[07:28] <luddite> soldats: thanks mate. ill look into one- should only take a minute to write
[07:28] <jay-oh-en> spdf, is it a command line ripper
[07:28] <spdf> jay-oh-en: Nope, gui
[07:29] <spdf> jay-oh-en: It works really well, I just finished ripping 11 seasons of MASH with it :D
[07:29] <hypnus9> !phpmyadmin
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <Ademan> (sorry got disconnected) anyone have any thoughts or experiences regarding inetd vs xinetd?
[07:30] <spdf> jay-oh-en: There's a cluster option, which in theory can be used to job control on a single machine. However, it has some a/v sync issues.
[07:30] <Link> hello to all
[07:30] <hypnus9> !mysql
[07:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:31] <LL00> salut
[07:31] <Link> i have a Qtek 9100 pocketpc, but ubuntu is not seeing it on the usb
[07:31] <Link> why?
[07:31] <newb> spdf: thanks for all of your help!
[07:31] <hypnus9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHPhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:31] <LL00> pourquoi c'est devenu un truc de fou pour installer flash plugin pour firefox
[07:31] <spdf> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:32] <spdf> LL00: Anglais, There's an issue with the way Adobe is packaging the flash plugin. There are fixes available however
[07:32] <LL00> where are the fixes for ubuntu ? :p
[07:33] <spdf> LL00: lol, one sec, I'll get you a link
[07:33] <LL00> et puis pourquoi
[07:33] <LL00> ubuntu a modifie le package
[07:33] <LL00> il suffisait des garder l'ancien
[07:33] <speeddemon8803> !fr | LL00
[07:33] <ubotu> LL00: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:34] <LL00> oups
[07:34] <LL00> lol
[07:34] <LL00> sorry
[07:34] <LL00> I though I was on -fr chan
[07:34] <LL00> I didn't notice I was in english chan
[07:34] <spdf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[07:34] <speeddemon8803> Thats ok, just a gentle reminder :)
[07:34] <spdf> !FlashIssues | LL00
[07:34] <ubotu> LL00: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:34] <LL00> I thought spdf kiding me speaking english
[07:35] <LL00> so why ubuntu mainteners changed the package?
[07:35] <LL00> the previous one was fine
[07:35] <spdf> Adobe changed their package, which broke our package
[07:36] <codename> im having troubles with flash in 7.10
[07:36] <LL00> there are no maintener from ubuntu?
[07:37] <spdf> !FlashIssues | codename
[07:37] <ubotu> codename: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:37] <LL00> or rollback to previous version
[07:38] <ShinmaIdoru> is there a package for Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 yet?
[07:39] <spdf> LL00: The package itself grabs the newest adobe package, because it cannot be distributed within the deb package. So, since the downloaded tar file is different, the package fails.
[07:42] <julio> Hello folks
[07:42] <julio> I'm with a little problem hire
[07:42] <julio> i'm trying to convert flv files do mpg or avi, but when i did  it the converted movie was quick and without sound (mute)
[07:44] <shaark> i'm having problems trying to hibernate in gutsy any tips on which logs to check ?
[07:45] <ShinmaIdoru> syslog or messages i think
[07:45] <ShinmaIdoru> in /var/log
[07:46] <drgeb> what is the highest format you can ripp an audio cd in ? is this cdda.raw??
[07:47] <julio> I used ffmpeg
[07:47] <unagi> how do i view running processes from the console
[07:48] <gregorovius> unagi, ps -A
[07:48] <spdf> unagi: ps aux
[07:48] <unagi> ps aus and ps -A is the same thing?
[07:49] <spdf> unagi: ps aux gives you a bit more information
[07:49] <gregorovius> try them both
[07:50] <unagi> when i have X trying to load and it is telling me that there is already an X session running, what is the process to killall to stop it
[07:50] <gregorovius> 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' is the proper way, I think
[07:50] <Salaman> !syscp
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syscp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <shaark> what should I look for in the syslog I don't see any error messages after unsuccessfully hibernating
[07:51] <idefix> ok listen up guys, how can an e-mail be sent to me with my e-mailaddress as sender?
[07:51] <ShinmaIdoru> is there a package for Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 yet?
[07:51] <ShinmaIdoru> it's just a spoof
[07:52] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, typical spam tactic so you say "wtf??" and look at it
[07:52] <neeto> where do I extract a codec pack
[07:52] <Ububegin> if i need to install Apache Httpd , which one should i choose from synaptic package manger....
[07:52] <neeto> ^for mplayer
[07:52] <Ububegin> apache2-mpm-event | apache2-mpm-prefork | apache2-mpm-worker ...... is the prefork the default one.... or is the event ... :?
[07:53] <idefix> ShinmaIdoru, but how is it technically possible?
[07:54] <spdf> idefix: Because the "sender" email address is just the replyto thats set
[07:54] <ShinmaIdoru> mail servers are dumb, you tell it who you are (sender), so the spoof is just telling it the person sending it is your email address rather than the real sender
[07:54] <idefix> ic
[07:54] <spdf> idefix: The headers tell a different story however
[07:54] <ShinmaIdoru> its not a big deal
[07:54] <B3cc0> !list
[07:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:55] <ShinmaIdoru> !help
[07:55] <Doctor-Who> Commands: last, seen, total, random, user, userlist, uptime, lastchan, joinpart, count, countwords
[07:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:56] <idefix> what could be wrong with adding a girl to your MSN when offered? is that a spam tactic too?
[07:56] <spdf> idefix: More often than not, yes.
[07:56] <spdf> idefix: If not spam, than some random trojan that'll only effect windows users..
[07:56] <speeddemon8803> People are not always who they say on the internet..i could be 90 and fat old dude...or 20 and skinny hot chick...do you really know? nope
[07:57] <benoit_> azeae   lqaaddadadadada
[07:57] <idefix> oh man, 90, the horror
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, not to be rude, but it seems strange you're in a linux chat without knowing some of those types of info
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> i guess im just surprised is all
[07:57] <spdf> ShinmaIdoru: Everyone starts off somewhere..
[07:57] <benoit_> azezae
[07:57] <benoit_> azsqssqdddeeaa
[07:57] <ShinmaIdoru> yeah not trying to be insulting at all, just surprised.. typically linux chat is for more advanced users
[07:58] <benoit_> qqqaaa
[07:58] <benoit_> dddsqdsqdfffggg
[07:58] <spdf> benoit_: Er?
[07:58] <speeddemon8803> Benoit_ please quit.
[07:58] <yao_ziyuan> my host os is windows xp. i want to install a free/open-source virtual machine manager and then install Ubuntu in it, on A REAL DISK PARTITION, so that i can both run it as a virtual machine and as a dual-bootable independent os. so QEMU and VBOX, which should i choose?
[07:58] <idefix> I'm a wannabe nerd, ok?
[07:58] <speeddemon8803> Do you have a question for us or are you just going to flood the room with random garbage benoit_?
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> lol wannabe nerds are cool too :)
[07:59] <ShinmaIdoru> idefix, no worries bud ;)
[07:59]  * amidaniel has the feelings a cat is typing on benoit_'s keyboard :)
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> or their smashing their fist on the keyboard
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> because somethings not working right
[08:00] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: I've heard of doing that the other way around, with linux running windows in vmplayer
[08:00] <yao_ziyuan> spdf: but vmware is not free
[08:00] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: vmplayer is
[08:01] <LL00> yes it's free the vmware server
[08:01] <bezibaerchen> spdf: server too :-)
[08:01] <ShinmaIdoru> doesnt VirtualBox have this functionality? or does it try and convert the partition to an image?
[08:01] <yao_ziyuan> spdf: vmplayer can create a virtual machine?
[08:01] <LL00> vmware server yes
[08:01] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: http://oopsilon.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware
[08:01] <bezibaerchen> yao_ziyuan: nope, but u can create with server and open it with player
[08:01] <spdf> yao_ziyuan: check that out, its the other way around, but it may give you some ideas
[08:03] <xivanari> hey i have a question about external hard drives.  Can someone with some experience in this area give me a hand?
[08:04] <xivanari> is anyone here?
[08:05] <xivanari> of the 1113 users it says are online :)
[08:05] <astro76> !ask
[08:05] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:05] <bod_> !anyone
[08:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:05] <spdf> xivanari: USB?
[08:05] <xivanari> yea
[08:05] <xivanari> its mounting
[08:05] <spdf> xivanari: NTFS?
[08:05] <xivanari> but i have no write privelages
[08:06] <xivanari> no i formatted it to ext3
[08:06] <spdf> xivanari: Ahh, you'll probably need to change the mount permissions then
[08:06] <xivanari> how do i do that
[08:06] <xivanari> i dont know how to get root permissions
[08:06] <cvd> su
[08:06] <bod_> sudo
[08:06] <xivanari> ok
[08:07] <xivanari> but i dont know how to change the mount permissions in the CLI
[08:07] <ssf> 有中国人没？
[08:07] <spdf> xivanari: You'll need to edit/add a line to /etc/fstab
[08:07] <bod_> xivanari, suo chmod 777 /name/of/something
[08:07] <xivanari> ok
[08:07] <bod_> sup =sudo
[08:08] <xivanari> what is the cli code for accessing /etc/fstab
[08:08] <spdf> xivanari: you can do gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:08] <bod_> xivanari, note 777 is full permissions,. 755 or 775 is better
[08:08] <xivanari> okay
[08:08] <spdf> bod_: Except, that'll only have an effect on files already on the disk, it doesn't change how permissions are setup on mount
[08:09] <xivanari> what do i edit in this file now
[08:09] <spdf> xivanari: Can you put the contents of that onto a pastebin?
[08:09] <spdf> !pastebin
[08:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:09] <xivanari> ya sure
[08:09] <bod_> spdf, gd point,. just letting him no how to chnage permissions in general,.ty
[08:10] <xivanari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54019/
[08:10] <xivanari> they changed pastebin
[08:10] <xivanari> io like it better now
[08:10] <xivanari> its easier
[08:10] <xivanari> ^.^
[08:10] <bod_> !enter
[08:10] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:10] <shaark> i just lost my titlebar on all my windows what could be wrong?
[08:11] <bod_> shaark, compiz,. restart it
[08:11] <shaark> how do I restart compiz?
[08:11] <bod_> gd question hang on
[08:12] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to see size of a folder in the terminal? how many kb it's taking up
[08:12] <astro76> Flynsarmy: du -sh
[08:12] <bod_> shaark, trpe    compiz -help    i no this sounds weird but it restarted mine
[08:12] <spdf> shaark: its metacity that has crashed, not compiz. You can run 'metacity --replace &' from the commandline
[08:12] <xivanari> spdf: you get that link?
[08:12] <spdf> xivanari: Yep, one sec
[08:13] <bod_> shaark, listen to spdf
[08:13] <tparcina> asterisk, from which repository should I install it? (Ubuntu 7.10 server)
[08:13] <shaark> ok it worked although the titlbar is different from the one I customized before
[08:13] <astro76> !info asterisk | tparcina
[08:13] <ubotu> tparcina: asterisk (source: asterisk): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.10~dfsg-1 (gutsy), package size 2033 kB, installed size 5264 kB
[08:13] <Ububegin> I just installed apache2-mpm-prefork from ubuntu synaptic manager ... i want to start apache2...
[08:13] <bod_> shaark, that'll reset if you restart x
[08:13] <spdf> shaark: Hmm.. Were you using emerald or some other replacement?
[08:13] <Ububegin> how do i use ubuntu and find such a folder path exists or not.. "apache2/bin"
[08:14] <shaark> yeah I think it was emerald
[08:14] <spdf> shaark: Ahh, then emerald --replace &
[08:14] <spdf> shaark: if emerald wont start, you might have to remove the ~/.emerald/ folder
[08:14] <bod_> shaark, make sure you put the & there
[08:15] <spdf> shaark: I've had that happen before with emerald
[08:15] <bod_> spdf, thats more complication then needed,. emerald is sub controled by compiz,.,. compiz -  will sort it
[08:15] <tparcina> astro76: universe repository isn't in sources.list by deafult. I should add it manualy?
[08:15] <ssf> 请问这有中国人吗？
[08:15] <bod_> !chinese
[08:15] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:15] <astro76> tparcina: yeah, it's probably commented out
[08:16] <ssf> 哦，我进错频道了吗？我是第一次用这个的，怎么换频道呢？
[08:16] <bod_> !chinese | ssf
[08:16] <ubotu> ssf: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:17] <xivanari> spdf: any luck yet?
[08:17] <ssf>  #ubuntu-cn
[08:17] <ssf>  #ubuntu-tw
[08:17] <ssf> ......
[08:18] <bod_> ssf,  type /j #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <danielax> ssf: /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <ssf> O~ thinks
[08:18] <bod_> ssf, no prob
[08:18] <bod_> bye
[08:18] <shaark> well emerald didn't start still using metacity
[08:19] <gregorovius> that was kinda funny
[08:19] <gregorovius> not funny haha
[08:19] <bod_> shaark, do this     compiz -
[08:19] <kahrytan> shaark➲  the only reason to use emerald is for transparency
[08:19] <shaark> i like transparency
[08:19] <shaark> :)
[08:20] <kahrytan> shaark➲  then use vista :-P
[08:20] <bod_> kahrytan, ouch!!
[08:20] <shaark> lol thats what I dual boot from
[08:20] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54019/ - Okay, I added a line in there, thats similar to what you want. You want to chagne /dev/sdb1 to whatever the device is, and create a directory in media 'sudo mkdir /media/storage'
[08:20] <spdf> brb.. irssi is hating me right now
[08:20] <kahrytan> shaark➲  now thats ironic
[08:20] <xivanari> okay
[08:20] <bod_> shaark, just do   compiz -      that'll srt you out,.,.or restart x by  ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:21] <shaark> well I like to show off the compiz stuff on my laptop
[08:21] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[08:21] <bod_> im off guys
[08:21] <bod_> be back in an hour or 2
[08:21] <kahrytan> shaark➲ I hate transparency .. can never tell if window is selected or not
[08:21] <bod_> bye
[08:21] <LL00> about the flash plugin, the link to donwload the .deb need to login into forum?
[08:21] <LL00> !flash
[08:21] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[08:22] <shaark> well the titlebar is changing color for me for the active window
[08:22] <xivanari> umm spdf it doesnt look like anything is changed in that file
[08:22] <shaark> and its transparent too
[08:22] <goodhabit> Hello. I'm trying to setup NFS share. I have added needed ip's, but mounts  failed, reason given by server: Permission denied.
[08:22] <goodhabit> I am used gui for sharing.
[08:22] <kahrytan> shaark➲ I dont even use compiz though. I like keep the system as fast as possible on this slower computer
[08:22] <KemrinH> Have you tried Sudo?
[08:22] <KemrinH> *sudo chown
[08:23] <goodhabit> What user I must setup with chown?
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: Hmm, I added to the bottom and hit save..
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54020/
[08:23] <spdf> xivanari: There we go. I'm a tard.
[08:23] <xivanari> spdf: im lookiing at an earlier version, and the later version, and they are the exact same
[08:23] <KemrinH> I would guess the active one
[08:23] <shaark> kahrytan: yeah I have a good video card so I can run it fine
[08:23] <xivanari> there we go
[08:23] <xivanari> XD
[08:23] <kahrytan> shaark➲  fx5200.
[08:23] <xivanari> thanks so much man
[08:24] <kahrytan> shaark➲ i like to use as lil cpu as possible
[08:24] <KemrinH> The one your using. Though I don't know much about NFS sharing. Just letting you know where I would start if I were you :)
[08:24] <spdf> xivanari: Like I said, edit the /dev/sdb1 to whatever it should be
[08:24] <xivanari> spdf: how do i know what it shouild be?
[08:24] <shaark> well its supposed to be accelerated by the video card isn't it? shouldn't affect cpu
[08:24] <Hemebond> Anyone got Beryl installed?
[08:24] <spdf> xivanari: when you plug the drive in check dmesg
[08:24] <xivanari> spdf: im really ubuntu noob, thanks so so so much for helpiong me out man
[08:24] <KemrinH> I have Compiz, which is like Beryl
[08:25] <shaark> didn't compiz and beryl merge anyways?
[08:25] <DEXTREX> Hello, I've just intalled ubuntu and having trouble with the sound. I used a tutorial to see if the computer recognizes the sound card and it does but the drivers to not seem to be running or working. I cant seem to find the correct driver for Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02).
[08:25] <Hemebond> I need someone with Beryl installed.
[08:25] <KemrinH> Yeah, that's why their so similar
[08:25] <xivanari> whoa ok where in dmesg do i look spdf?
[08:25] <KemrinH> I had beryl installed until 7.10 was released.
[08:26] <kahrytan> shaark➲  but it does
[08:26] <spdf> xivanari: whatever you just did will be at the bottom of what prints
[08:26] <spdf> xivanari: Some stuff about USB and what not
[08:26] <xivanari> ok
[08:26] <xivanari> yeya gotcha
[08:26] <xivanari> [168663.628000] EXT3 FS on sdb1, internal journal
[08:26] <xivanari> [168663.628000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[08:27] <spdf> xivanari: It is sdb1 after all
[08:27] <xivanari> hhaha excellent
[08:27] <xivanari> ok so now what
[08:27] <spdf> xivanari: If you added that line to fstab, and created the directory, then it should be mounted to /media/storage
[08:27] <cpk1> how do you make it so kdm doesnt start on boot? you need to change something in one of the rcX.d folders right?
[08:27] <xivanari> ok /media /storage doesnt exist
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: 'sudo mkdir /media/storage'
[08:28] <xivanari> ohyer
[08:28] <xivanari> ok
[08:28] <danielax> ck3k: yeah - /etc/rcX.d/S??kdm
[08:28] <xivanari> it didnt prompt for a password or anything
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: 'sudo umount /dev/sdb1'
[08:28] <eric_> I know this is a windows based question but its just slipped my mind and usually i know the answer but can one dual boot two windows os's off the same partition?
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: It saves your sudo information for 15mins by default
[08:28] <spdf> xivanari: or 5mins, I don't recall.
[08:28] <xivanari> ok
[08:29] <danielax> rename it to something other than S?? (but not K?? :)
[08:29] <xivanari> umount
[08:29] <eric_> Granted they have different default folders /win/  /progfiles/ /users/ etc....
[08:29] <xivanari> not unmount?
[08:29] <danielax> eric_: sure can
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: Yep, umount
[08:29] <danielax> eric_: no hang on
[08:29] <xivanari> okay, than what next, do i remount it?
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: Now, 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1'
[08:29] <xivanari> ok
[08:29] <xivanari> and then it works
[08:29] <eric_> danielax: ok thanks lots i feel moronic having this slipped my mind...
[08:29] <spdf> xivanari: As long as there's no errors, it should atually show up on your desktop as "storage", and in your Places menu
[08:30] <xivanari> ahh
[08:30] <xivanari> i just got this "Error while copying to "/media/storage" " You do not have permissions to write to this folder
[08:30] <eric_> danielax: i want to install my modded xp lite that uses a weird set of foldernames along side of a vista lite in my ntfs drive and install my ubuntu back overtop it all in my ext3
[08:30] <xivanari> which is the error i have been getting since the beginning :(
[08:30] <spdf> xivanari: lol, no worries
[08:31] <eric_> danielax: with my many swap partitions and gig o ram lol
[08:31] <spdf> xivanari: Just a quick edit
[08:31] <xivanari> oh okay ^.^
[08:31] <spdf> xivanari: er, unmount it, and then do mount /dev/sdb1 (without sudo)
[08:31] <xivanari> ok done
[08:32] <xivanari> same errror message
[08:32] <xivanari> i did sudo umount /dev/sdb1 and then mount /dev/sdb1
[08:32] <spdf> xivanari: One sec, just getting right fstab option
[08:32] <xivanari> okay
[08:34] <danielax_> *sigh* crashy net connection
[08:34] <cpk1> danielax: that made no sense... I found it though, its in runlevel 4
[08:34] <danielax_> odd - what's the output of runlevel usually
[08:35] <spdf> xivanari: after rw, add ",umask=077,gid=users" (no quotes)
[08:35] <alanbshepard70> Has anyone here been able to get the latest version of itunes to run under wine?
[08:36] <eric_> danielax thats ok i suppose i could just give it a go.
[08:36] <xivanari> after the 0s?
[08:36] <eric_> danielax and see how well i fair.
[08:36] <danielax_> eric_: really i'm not sure - I thought the question was different
[08:36] <spdf> xivanari: it should read "rw,umask=077,gid=users"
[08:36] <danielax_> eric_: best of luck anyway :)
[08:36] <eric_> hehe
[08:36] <xivanari> ok awesome
[08:37] <eric_> Heres hopin i didnt waste my last couple hours of my life configging my xp
[08:37] <cpk1> danielax_: actually i can find a kdm in my fiesty install but on my gutsy install I cant find it, so back to my question =P
[08:37] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Kubuntu 7.10 , and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:38] <danielax_> food time :) gtg all!
[08:38] <unagi> when i have X trying to load and it is telling me that there is already an X session running, what is the process to killall to stop it
[08:38] <xivanari> uh oh
[08:38] <danielax_> SlimG: start cookiedaemon ? :P
[08:38] <kahrytan> Daniel^➲  so late?
[08:38] <spdf> xivanari: uh oh?
[08:38] <xivanari> spdf: i got an error message when i tried to remount it
[08:38] <spdf> xivanari: Pastebin the new fstab
[08:39] <cpk1> hmm runlevel 3 and 4 have kdm...
[08:39] <xirdneh> hi there. someone help with grub problem error 17
[08:40] <xivanari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54023/
[08:40] <xivanari> spdf:
[08:40] <spdf> xivanari: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54024/
[08:41] <xivanari> whats the difference?
[08:41] <xivanari> oh the 0s
[08:41] <idefix> it IS a bad idea to actually buy and use viagra, right?
[08:41] <spdf> xivanari: and the s on users
[08:41] <xivanari> nice
[08:42] <xirdneh> noone?
[08:42] <xivanari> got the same error again spdf
[08:42] <spdf> xivanari: Hmm.. i'm thinking that 'users' isn't actually a default group.. one sec
[08:42] <spdf> xivanari: do ls -l /media/  .. is storage in the users group?
[08:43] <SlimG> I'm running Konqueror 3.5.8 @ Kubuntu 7.10 , and when I try to turn on "cookies" I'm told that this cannot be done because the cookiedaemon isn't running? how do i fix that?
[08:43] <xivanari> there is no users group
[08:43] <xivanari> that i can see
[08:43] <xivanari> everything is in Root but my ipod
[08:43] <spdf> xivanari: so its "root root"
[08:43] <xivanari> yep
[08:44] <spdf> xivanari: You chould change umask=077 to umask=000
[08:44] <xivanari> same error
[08:44] <spdf> xivanari: remoounted?
[08:45] <xivanari> nope
[08:45] <xivanari> wrong fs type
[08:45] <spdf> xivanari: Aight.. remove the umask and gid stuff
[08:46] <xivanari> done
[08:46] <spdf> xivanari: Mounts now, at least?
[08:46] <xivanari> yes
[08:47] <xivanari> still no write permissions tho
[08:47] <spdf> xivanari: sudo chmod 777 /media/storage
[08:48] <xivanari> ok
[08:48] <xivanari> its working now
[08:48] <xivanari> XD
[08:48] <xivanari> isnt that whjat bod said to do in the beginning
[08:48] <xivanari> lmfao
[08:48] <spdf> xivanari: I'm so used to getting ntfs drives working lol
[08:48] <xivanari> lmfao
[08:48] <xivanari> this isnt ntfs
[08:48] <xivanari> this is ext
[08:48] <spdf> xivanari: Sorry.. he was right, I'm getting tired apparently
[08:48] <xivanari> naw man its ok
[08:48] <xivanari> im high off my nut
[08:49] <xivanari> so yknow im having trouble with everything atm.
[08:50] <xMS_user> do i have ti reinstall the kernel to get dual processor out of a single processor system that was upgraded?
[08:51] <spdf> xMS_user: I'm pretty sure the kernels are built to handle either situation now
[08:51] <stdin> xMS_user: no, it should Just Work
[08:52] <xivanari> spdf:  thanks so much again man fgor helping me get this working
[08:52] <phuzion> How do I update to the newest drivers for an nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS with 3d support so I can play games?
[08:52] <xivanari> i really appreciate it.
[08:52] <spdf> xivanari: No worries, at least we got through the fstab stuff, so it'll just be there and working when you boot
[08:52] <shaark> phuzion:use envy
[08:52] <phuzion> !envy
[08:52] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:52] <stdin> !envy | don't use it
[08:52] <ubotu> don't use it: please see above
[08:52] <stdin> dang :p
[08:52] <spdf> phuzion: Or, use the restricted manager.
[08:53] <onats> hello, is the hibernate/suspend supported already ?
[08:53] <spdf> onats: depends on the system really, some have no problem with it, others do
[08:53] <shaark> onats: i'm having problems with hibernating something to do with ATI drivers
[08:54] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: i was trying to fix my boot and reisntalled the kernel and now lost my dual processor ability
[08:54] <onats> spdf, i'm on a toshiba notebook, still can't get it to work properly, and on my dad's vaio
[08:54] <stdin> xMS_user: if you have one of the -generic kernels then it's built in and detected at boot
[08:54] <spdf> the 'linux-generic' package should get you the latest
[08:55] <spdf> onats: I'm not familiar enough with ubuntu on laptops to help you with that, to be honest
[08:56] <shaark> onats: which video card do they have?
[08:56] <xMS_user>  spdf: stdin: so there is another reason y i lost the other cpu? what command would confirm my core2duo is seen by the os?
[08:56] <onats> shaark, my toshiba has an intel945GM
[08:56] <onats> not sure with the vaio
[08:57] <spdf> xMS_user: sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:57] <stdin> xMS_user: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" should show more than one CPU
[08:57] <stdin> no need for sudo
[08:58] <shaark> onats: check the hibernate.log and syslog
[08:58] <onats> shaark, and? what should i look for?
[08:58] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: >:o i am soo pissed i just want to do the whole OS all over again!
[08:59] <xMS_user> btw, i only see one
[08:59] <shaark> any error messages
[08:59] <shaark> does it actually hang when u try to hibernate?
[09:00] <phuzion> Hmm, I'm apparently using the restricted drivers, anyone know why Counter Strike runs at < 1 fps?
[09:01] <phuzion> CS Source
[09:01] <hellotherehere> hi, how do i increase the swap by taking space from the main hard drive?
[09:03] <xMS_user> spdf: stdin: please don't leave me!
[09:04] <idefix> is it possible to record a macro?
[09:04] <idefix> in linux? using any program merely based on whatever your mouse does?
[09:04] <spdf> xMS_user: Not gone, lol. What did cpuinfo tell you?
[09:05] <unagi_> anyone here happen to use kde or knetworkmanager..............how do you refresh the network list
[09:05] <phuzion> idefix, what are you looking to do, its likely that whatever you want to do can be done with a script more easliy
[09:05] <idefix> it's just repeating actions
[09:06] <idefix> phuzion, so how?
[09:07] <phuzion> idefix, well, what programs are you using in your macro?
[09:07] <idefix> gimp
[09:07] <xMS_user> spdf: i only see processor 0, this all happend because i spent (wasted) my money on an intel MB that said it had RAID but ubuntu live or alt do not see the raid partition. so i followed some weird tutorial online about installing ubuntu on raid0 but now i need the cd to boot and lost my dual core
[09:07] <phuzion> Hmm, what exactly are you doing with the images?
[09:07] <spdf> xMS_user: So, you'er booting from the cd?
[09:08] <idefix> phuzion, there's no macro recording option in gimp, so my question is how do you record a macro in linux in general?
[09:08] <xMS_user> spdf: i can oly boot from the cd and then choose to boot from the hd. with no cd i get grub error 15, so i use the cd
[09:08] <idefix> I have to do the same to about 40 pictures, after 20 I'm sick of it
[09:09] <idefix> il y a toujours un meilleur façon
[09:09] <idefix> phuzion?!?! anyone else?!?! i beg of you, help me!
[09:09] <xMS_user> idex consider command line image tools like image magik
[09:09] <xMS_user> what are you doing to each image?
[09:10] <phuzion> Yeah, I was going to suggest imagemagick
[09:10] <spdf> xMS_user: Hmm,, 15: Error while parsing number.. No other errors?
[09:10] <idefix> I'm converting from greyscale to black and white to save space
[09:10] <H4ck3rx> Please lets me know how to fix "Cannot find or run the base session script..." problem
[09:10] <xMS_user> idefix: lol, that is it?
[09:10] <idefix> yes!
[09:10] <phuzion> idefix, i'm pretty sure imagemagick can do it, just go and read up on it
[09:10] <xMS_user> let me bless you idefix, gimme a sec
[09:10] <bentob0x> Alright, I would like to share my /var/www/ folder for other people on my local network to go in there and work on the various projects that are in there, how can I do this the easiest way possible?
[09:11] <spdf> bentob0x: You could add people to the www-data group
[09:11] <bdancer> re all
[09:11] <bentob0x> do I need to create users on my machine locally spdf?
[09:11] <phuzion> bentob0x, Is everyone else on linux?
[09:11] <bentob0x> yes phuzion
[09:12] <idefix> phuzion xMS_user except you actually sort of have to look to make sure it's the right threshold value
[09:12] <H4ck3rx> Please let me know how to fix "Cannot find or run the base session script..." problem
[09:12] <spdf> bentob0x: How is it shared over the network?
[09:12] <bdancer> is there any repository with the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:12] <phuzion> idefix, so you're trying to automate the only step in the process, and it requires human input anyways?
[09:12] <bentob0x> it's shared using samba at the moment
[09:13] <idefix> well I could just say 'what the heck' and hope there's some magical value of success
[09:13] <idefix> 0<v<256
[09:13] <phuzion> bentob0x, that would have been my suggestion, for cross OS compatibility
[09:13] <spdf> bentob0x: /etc/samba/smb.conf, and add writeable=yes
[09:13] <idefix> how can you hack websites?
[09:14] <phuzion> wrong channel for that, bro
[09:14] <bentob0x> oko will dig into smb.conf spdf
[09:14] <xMS_user> idefix: that question can not be explain in irc
[09:14] <idefix> but I'm quite bright
[09:14] <idefix> I have my own site etc...
[09:15] <bdancer> is there any repository with the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:15] <xMS_user> buy a book on vulnerabilities and read, lol
[09:15] <phuzion> idefix, how old are you?
[09:15] <idefix> does it matter?
[09:15] <skyion> idefix >> might i suggest #iarzd3133tz0rhacKz0rchannel
[09:15] <phuzion> just curious
[09:15] <idefix> there's noone in there
[09:15] <phuzion> *facepalm*
[09:15] <bentob0x> depends what you mean by 'hack' exactly, if it's digging in there and mess with code to try to get something together quickly, have a look at #php idefix
[09:16] <phuzion> !offtopic
[09:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:16] <skyion> idefix.. if its a website, I would look at cirt and then look for vuln
[09:16] <bentob0x> if you mean abusing security vulnerabilities, that's another story ...
[09:16] <idefix> how long do you have to keep hitting on a girl when she has told you she thinks you're too serious?
[09:16] <phuzion> !offtopic
[09:16] <spdf> idefix: This isn't the place for that, Google to your hearts content.
[09:16] <phuzion> !ubuntu-datingadvice
[09:16] <Shazzamy> !offtopic
[09:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:16] <Shazzamy> LOL
[09:17] <xMS_user> btw idefix, sudo apt-get install imagemagick to install it and http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php to use the right combination for your needs
[09:17] <idefix> isn't it possible to make a macro simple with commands like "go to this window, alt-T-C-T ?
[09:17] <idefix> "
[09:18] <idefix> that hasta be possible
[09:18] <shaark> can a partition be resized on the fly in linux?
[09:18] <xMS_user> idefix: do you know if it is true that if you hit ctrl+alt+backspace your computer blows up?
[09:18] <skyion> bradc@isogenic:~$ apropos women
[09:18] <skyion> women: nothing appropriate.
[09:18] <spdf> xMS_user: Now now..
[09:18] <xMS_user> LOL
[09:18] <xMS_user> O:-) i've been bad
[09:18] <EnsGabe> I'm trying to build the hardy kernel on my gutsy machine (I need the restriced-modules package, and I'm not going to upgrade libc to get it.)  I do apt-get source linux-image-<version>, and in the linux-2.6.24 directory, do 'debuild -us -uc -b'.  After several hours, I get the error "check FAILED (nice one Tonto, go get the Lone Ranger)" when the script 'abi-check' is run.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[09:19] <idefix> hey phuzion you were in there
[09:19] <spdf> EnsGabe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=646755
[09:19] <phuzion> what?
[09:19] <xMS_user> idefix: did you get the image stuff?
[09:19] <idefix> yes
[09:19] <idefix> but isn't GIMP omnipotential?
[09:20] <spdf> EnsGabe: Although, I just saw your libc business.. So, that's not going to help you
[09:20] <xMS_user> is there a REAL tutorial on how to install ubuntu gutsy on raid0
[09:20] <xMS_user> idefix: if you are omni-smart you could do scripts that do anything for oyu
[09:20] <xMS_user> you*
[09:20] <khelll> am trying to resize my ntfs partition using gparted, but am getting lock key beside the ntfs driver,also beside root driver
[09:21] <unagi_> anyone here happen to use kde or knetworkmanager..............how do you refresh the network list
[09:22] <phuzion> ok, idefix, let me ask you a question
[09:22] <phuzion> before you came in here, did you use google?
[09:22] <idefix> no, but google isn't everything..
[09:23] <Flynsarmy> How do you read core dumps? i tried to nano it but it just came up with all kinds of funky characters
[09:23] <phuzion> Google has seen way more webpages than this entire channel has collectively, squared
[09:23] <xMS_user> so no one uses raid0 with gutsy
[09:23] <phuzion> xMS_user, no, just no one in this channel
[09:24] <phuzion> so, ok, idefix, do this:  type ubuntu macro tool into google and hit I'm Feeling Lucky
[09:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: few people will use raid 0 as a technology
[09:25] <xMS_user> that is what i meant. ok, kill the raid project. word of advice to all in the channel, if you spent less than $120 on your MB and it says it has raid, it probably does not have real raid
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: everyone knows that
[09:25] <xMS_user> ikonia: what else is there? raid1+0?
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: fake raid is not a good technology full stop - even less in linux
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: Linux software raid is very good
[09:25] <shaark> khell: the partition is in use u can't do anything with it
[09:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: the majority of people will use raid 1 or raid 5/6
[09:26] <xMS_user> ikonia: so linux soft raid is better than fakeraid?
[09:26] <ikonia> xMS_user: MUCH
[09:26] <phuzion> wtf, where did floodbot 2 go?
[09:27] <ikonia> phuzion: that language is uncalled for
[09:27] <xMS_user> ikonia: crap. so the performance hit would be against by cpu right?
[09:27] <ikonia> xMS_user: correct, exactly the same as it does in fakefaid
[09:27] <ikonia> fakeraid
[09:27] <xMS_user> what?! so why did i upgrade my MB!?>:o
[09:27] <ikonia> xMS_user: only you can answer that question
[09:28] <xMS_user> ikonia: ok, here i go-->cuz i was too lazy and too hasty
[09:28] <phuzion> whats the config application for compiz?
[09:29] <xMS_user> ikonia: so i will turn off fakeraid from my bios and use softraid. do you know of a good tutorial b4 i go to google?
[09:29] <ikonia> xMS_user: there is a guide on help.ubuntu.com and I wrote a detailed explaination respose to a user post on ubuntuforums.org that will help you
[09:29] <onats> xMS_user, why do you want to setup raid?
[09:31] <Flynsarmy> I'm able to write to a file 'area.tst' but when i try to get this program to use it the program says permission denied when trying to access it. I can't chmod - it says 'operation not permitted'. Ideas?
[09:31] <ikonia> what probgram ?
[09:31] <getmoney> Hello to all, i have a question, is there any gps software for ubuntu?
[09:31] <Flynsarmy> a MUD
[09:31] <ikonia> getmoney: not that I'm aware of
[09:32] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: where is it trying to write, and exactly what file/location ?
[09:32] <getmoney> i see.
[09:32] <xMS_user> onats: i hear raid0 gives better performance. until i get my quad-core and my 3more gigs i thought it would be worth it, but now that i see it will use my cpu it might not be the best thing
[09:32] <ikonia> getmoney: I use my GPS device with linux over bluetooth, but I'm not aware of any tomtom style software
[09:32] <ikonia> xMS_user: you hear wrong
[09:33] <getmoney> im trying to use my usb-gps
[09:33] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: ../txt/area.tst: Permission denied is what it says in the log. its /home/etrials/Rom24/area/area.tst
[09:33] <ikonia> xMS_user: raid 0 is a false economy and also provides a high risk or system failure/file system corruption
[09:33] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: please show me the permissions on the file
[09:33] <xMS_user> ikonia: ok and raid5?
[09:33] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: How do i find it out?
[09:33] <ikonia> xMS_user: how many disks to you have
[09:33] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: ls -la /home/etrials/Rom24/area/area.tst
[09:34] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: -rw-rw-r--  1 etrials etread 2348 Jan 31 00:42 area.tst
[09:34] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: what is the user launching the mud process ?
[09:35] <A[D]minS> !iptables
[09:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> ikonia: enigma
[09:35] <ikonia> Flynsarmy: then you need to either make enigma the owner of that file - or you need to chmod it to be world writeable
[09:36] <getmoney> ikonia: your bluetooth gps is hooke up to your laptop running gps software? and what software are you running if you dont mind
[09:36] <spdf> Flynsarmy: if etrials owns it, then you'll have to chmod from that user, or use sudo
[09:36] <ikonia> getmoney: I'm not aware of any Tom tom style software
[09:37] <lordmorgoth> hey guys
[09:38] <lordmorgoth> im at work, and i need a GUI application to connect to ORACLE databases install on windows 2003, to alter,query,creat stuff ...etc any recommendations ??
[09:38] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: the oracle tools, things like svrmgr
[09:38] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: I assume you want the tools to run on linux ?
[09:38] <BubblegumTat1> hi, my firefox suddenly stopped working ''Segmentation fault (core dumped)" any ideas what I can do to diagnose/fix this problem
[09:38] <BubblegumTat1> ??
[09:38] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, is there a free version of those that runs on linux
[09:39] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Can you still start firefox?
[09:39] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, yeah exactly i wanted to run on my ubuntu :)
[09:39] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: contact your Oracle vendor for license agrements
[09:39] <lordmorgoth> im the only linux ortiented personal here, and im trying to convince everyone else to migrate :)
[09:39] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: why - leave them be if they are happy
[09:40] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: contact your Oracle vendor. Or look at 3rd party tools like Toad
[09:40] <lordmorgoth> ikonia, oh i know toad lemme c if they have a linux clone
[09:40] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: no, it returns that immediately
[09:41] <ikonia> lordmorgoth: they don't have a "clone" but there i a linux version
[09:41] <lordmorgoth> great
[09:41] <lordmorgoth> im off back to work thanks ikonia
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> aha!
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> spdf
[09:42] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Yes?
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> firefox will start in safe mode with extensions off
[09:42] <BubblegumTat1> I suspect my firebug install went apeshit
[09:42] <ikonia> BubblegumTat1: I that language is uncalled for
[09:42] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: Yes, its likely an extension is causing problems.
[09:42] <ikonia> BubblegumTat1: is firebug a different product ?
[09:43] <spdf> ikonia: Its an extension for FF
[09:43] <BubblegumTat1> it's an invaluable firefox plugin for web developers
[09:43] <ikonia> ah, thank you
[09:43] <BubblegumTat1> usually awesome
[09:43] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: and apparently broken :D
[09:44] <spdf> BubblegumTat1: from the command line try "export MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1" then run firefox
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: so it would seem
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> spdf: it's all good
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> I uninstalled a bunch of extensions
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> and everything is made of gravy
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> this always happens
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> I come here
[09:45] <spdf> Delicious gravy... mmm
[09:45] <BubblegumTat1> ask a question
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> then solve it
[09:46] <spdf> Its the asking that gets your mind movin'
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> bah
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> I don't believe in that stuff
[09:46] <BubblegumTat1> it's obviously luck
[09:46] <spdf> Act of god, even.
[09:46] <idefix_>  phuzion what better is that one graphic program to the almighty gimp?
[09:51] <Kibbles> can any1 recommend a good GUI front-end for SSH?
[09:52] <spdf> Kibbles: There's a port of PuTTY I believe
[09:52] <_ruben> Kibbles: gui for ssh? ssh is plain text, not much need for a gui i'd say
[09:53] <meborc> you can use gftp to transfer files through ssh connection
[09:53] <meborc> but i prefer using scp
[09:53] <meborc> (which has no gui)
[09:53] <mavi-> it do
[09:54] <spdf> GUIs are nice for saving login information, and configuration for tunneling and such.. PuTTY on Windows is very nice
[09:54] <mavi-> or, there are scp-guis
[09:54] <mavi-> use the "mount server"
[09:54] <mavi-> Places->connect to server
[09:54] <mavi-> then click ssh, then you can drag'n'drop stuff over scp to that server
[09:54] <meborc> mavi-, :) hmm... i kind of never needed one, so i guess i missed them
[09:55] <mavi-> places->connect to server has support for several protocols
[09:55] <BubblegumTat1> ooh new question
[09:55] <mavi-> its really nice =)
[09:55] <mavi-> else gnome ssh manager is nice to manage your regular ssh sessions
[09:55] <Symmetria> urgh can someone recommend a good X mail client for me, evolution is the most unstable P.O.S I have ever seen in my life :p
[09:56] <Symmetria> its driving me completely insane
[09:56] <mavi-> thunderbird
[09:56] <mavi-> from mozilla
[09:56] <karl_> join #jquery
[09:56] <Symmetria> hrm, may as well migrate to thunderbird
[09:56] <karl_> help
[09:56] <spdf> karl_: Er..
[09:57] <karl_> lol, i thought that would trigger some help
[09:57] <karl_> I havent used IRC for 6 years or so
[09:57] <spdf> karl_: Asking a question triggers some help as well...
[09:57] <spdf> Not much has changed
[09:58] <karl_> apart from my memory of course
[09:58] <BubblegumTat1> nm found it
[09:59] <meborc> karl_, i gues you need to /j #channel
[09:59] <meborc> ;)
[09:59] <spdf> lol, I thought he was asking us to join.
[09:59] <Kibbles> spdf: thanks... that's what I was thinking about
[09:59] <meborc> he was trying to open F1 :O
[09:59] <khelll> am trying to resize my ntfs partition using gparted , but am getting lock key beside the ntfs drive and also my root drive , any suggestions ?
[10:00] <karl_> thanks meborc
[10:00] <spdf> Kibbles: gnome has an ssh manager as well, I haven't used it though
[10:00] <spdf> khelll: Is the ntfs partition mounted?
[10:01] <xMS_user> ikonia: still there buddy? i got disc when you asked me how many drives i have
[10:01] <ikonia> xMS_user: pardon?
[10:02] <Kibbles> spdf: what is it called and where can I find it?
[10:02] <xMS_user> i got disconected
[10:02] <khelll> yes am using kubuntu 7.10 , am able to read and write to that drive
[10:03] <xMS_user> ikonia: you had asked me how many drives i had
[10:03] <ikonia> xMS_user: ok, how many drives do you have
[10:03] <ikonia> n
[10:04] <jqk> Is there Colloquy for linux?
[10:04] <shaark> khell: just use a gpartd livecd
[10:04] <squak6> i broke my xorg file and my screen glitches instead of booting i think when i edited xorg file i broke it
[10:04] <shaark> boot from the cd and do the resize
[10:04] <squak6> worse i mean
[10:05] <squak6> i changed the depth from 24 to 16 but im not shure that was the problem cause it was a black screen before
[10:06] <xMS_user> 3x160gb and 1x250gb, 2x160gb as raid0 and 1x250gb for media. the last 160gb is not in the pc
[10:07] <ikonia> xMS_user: then I would use raid 5 and raid 1 - but thats up to you
[10:07] <xMS_user> ikonia: still, it would be eating y cpu right?
[10:07] <ikonia> xMS_user: use cpu - yes, eat cpu - no
[10:08] <zombie_monkey> how do I make eth0 just be up but not attempt to get an IP ?
[10:08] <squak6> what command do i type in safe mode to run that video config
[10:08] <spdf> *nom nom nom* cpu
[10:08] <jqk> zombie_monkey: disable dhcp on that interface.
[10:09] <crabgrass> so... how do i enable mplayer support in firefox?
[10:09] <crabgrass> i tried mplayerplug-in, but no luck
[10:09] <crabgrass> i can't live without liveleak!
[10:09] <xMS_user> ikonia: i think i am just gonna stay away from it for now. real raid is better but more expensive. i'll wait on that upgrade for later
[10:09] <ArthurArchnix> crabgrass: That plug in worked for me. What was the exact name of the pluging that didn't work?
[10:10] <crabgrass> i downloaded something called mplayerplug-in, compiled it, and no-go.
[10:10] <squak6> is there  a way to get the video fix when it glitches out rank instead of booting
[10:10] <underwatercow> how do I make it so my sound card will be hw:0?
[10:10] <zombie_monkey> jqk: it's not dhcp, http://pastebin.com/d44747d28
[10:10] <spdf> crabgrass: mozilla-mplayer
[10:10] <crabgrass> spdf: checking, one sec
[10:11] <crabgrass> that wouldnt happen to be in the core repos, would it?
[10:11] <spdf> crabgrass: multiverse
[10:11] <xMS_user> should my root partition be and the front or the end of my disk(i'm in gparted and am preparing a drive for a new install)
[10:11] <squak6> i need to default all the videosettings
[10:11] <crabgrass> wow, that's awesome
[10:11] <crabgrass> thank you apt!
[10:11] <jqk> zombie_monkey: That's ipv6.
[10:11] <ArthurArchnix> technically spdf, but apt is good too.
[10:12] <crabgrass> spdf: damn, still not working
[10:12] <spdf> Hmm.. restart firefox?
[10:12] <spdf> 'surf' to about:plugins
[10:12] <underwatercow> How do I know what to type for the card when trying to use "asound set-default-card"?
[10:12] <Kimahri> sorry bout my wireless guys... it's spazzing out
[10:12] <zombie_monkey> jqk: well I'm using pppoe, and my ISP said that I should disable that for my own security
[10:13] <crabgrass> spdf: odd, "shockwave flash" is the only one listed
[10:13] <spdf> You know.. I've been at work for 6hrs, and I've done about 20mins of actual work :S
[10:13] <squak6> im to mentally retarded to fix my video
[10:13] <xMS_user> i want to create a 3 partition disk (/,/home and swap) but dunno what order to create them
[10:13] <web_knows> o/
[10:14] <ArthurArchnix> crabgrass: What does sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer return? Is it already installed? Or not found? Your comment about flash confuses me.
[10:14] <xMS_user> ikonia: spdf, stdin can you help?
[10:15] <ikonia> xMS_user: doesn't matter
[10:15] <crabgrass> ArthurArchnix: it prompted me to install it, just like any program i did not previously have installed. the flash comment was in response to spdf's about:plugins suggestion
[10:15] <squak6> branch more sudo fed then lyle travolta
[10:15] <crabgrass> ArthurArchnix: which, i assume, means it did not install properly
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> spdf: Depending on the size of partitions, I like to put my swap as close to the centre of disk as possible. I believe it offers me miliseconds of speed improvements. :P
[10:16] <ArthurArchnix> spdf: Sorry, that comment was meant for xMS_user
[10:16] <spdf> I remember actually thinking about that back when I first installed on a 486, but now it just doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned
[10:17] <zombie_monkey> ArthurArchnix: isn't the access fastest at the begginnig?
[10:17] <roelb> Hello everybody, I am deploying Ubuntu gutsy 7.10 on 100+ systems and I am looking for a list of correct parameters that I can in the preseed file
[10:17] <xMS_user> ikonia: thanks. so i will partition my 250gb   15gb for "/", 1gb for swap and the rest for "/home", copy over my home dir to the partition where the new /home will be and then install ubuntu on the hd. do i have it all right?
[10:18] <roelb> Does anybody know of such a list?
[10:18] <crabgrass> wow, i even got the mplayerplug-in  xpi from firefox's site, still not working
[10:18] <crabgrass> what in the hell?
[10:18] <spdf> crabgrass: is mplayer installed?
[10:18] <crabgrass> yes
[10:18] <ikonia> xMS_user: seems reasonable
[10:18] <singlesun> well, im back again, just finished installing on the wife's pc... however her wireless card will not connect to our wireless network.... it recognizes several networks in the area, but it will not connect to any of them, it tries but it fails to.. however my laptop with xp connects, so I know its not the networks... any thoughts?
[10:18] <crabgrass> that's the only thing, other than mpd, i use to view media
[10:19] <crabgrass> spdf: mpd for constant tunes, mplayer for everything else
[10:19] <ArthurArchnix> zombie_monkey: Well, if you're using swap that means you're doing something pretty intensive, which means you disk head is probably actively seeking and writing, which would mean that on average, swapping stuff out of RAM onto the disk should take less time if it's all done in the centre. THat's my understanding. But like spdf says, it with disk speeds nowadays it's unlikely to make an appreciable difference.
[10:19] <spdf> crabgrass: Hmm, I just stuck with totem's plugin, but its not great (has problems seeking and such)
[10:19] <shaark> singleshun:try ndiswrapper
[10:19] <Tidus> ok got a question
[10:19] <Tidus> how would i go about doing an in-place upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.10 ?
[10:20] <xMS_user> what can i use to quickly and safely copy/move the contents of my home dir to another partition? ( i assume cp -r /home/* /newmount would not work )
[10:20] <singlesun> shaark, ndiswrapper? is there are .deb or something i can download and then use my flashdrive to transfer to her PC?
[10:20] <ikonia> xMS_user: cp -Rxp
[10:20] <gregorovius> Tidus, I think update-manager should handle those upgrades
[10:21] <shaark> singleshun: ur wired ethernet should work
[10:21] <gregorovius> 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10
[10:21] <singlesun> shaark, no wired ethernet ;)
[10:21] <crabgrass> spdf: well... shit. this is strange
[10:21] <ikonia> crabgrass: please moderate your language
[10:21] <Tidus> gregorovius, update-manager shows 7.04 as latest
[10:21] <singlesun> shaark, im checking for a deb right now ;)
[10:21] <Tidus> for some odd reason
[10:21] <tapas> what was the last ubunbtu that sported kernel 2.4.x support?
[10:21] <gregorovius> Tidus, yeah, you gotta upgrade to 7.04 first
[10:21] <ikonia> tapas: 6.06 has a 2.4 kernel available
[10:21] <xMS_user> ikonia: can i add -v to see it in action too?
[10:22] <crabgrass> ikonia: please attempt to understand my frustration.
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: but it's buit on 2.6
[10:22] <gregorovius> you can't skip a version
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: ok, fair enough
[10:22] <ikonia> crabgrass: no - Moderate your language
[10:22] <ikonia> xMS_user: don't see why not
[10:22] <crabgrass> sigh.
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: do you havppen to know th elibc version it uses, too?
[10:22] <Tidus> gregorovius, ok, but it keeps saying that the update authentication failed
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: glibc you mean ?
[10:22] <tapas> ikonia: yep
[10:22] <crabgrass> well, in the time it took me to realize that something is very wrong with my system, i managed to wget the whole movie.
[10:22] <ikonia> tapas: it will be a 2.4 version due to linux-thread support rahter than pure nptl
[10:22] <gregorovius> that's a different issue, and I gotta go, gl :)
[10:23] <singlesun> anyone know if there is a deb for this ... ndiswrapper?
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: ok.. sounds good
[10:23] <ikonia> tapas: exactly what 2.4.X version - don't know
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: not quite so importnat, we'll roll our own anyways
[10:23] <Tidus> ok. anybody else know about this?
[10:23] <crabgrass> so, thanks anyways spdf and everyone else who replied (#ubuntu was actually kinda helpful... that's a first!), but i found a... solution?
[10:23] <tapas> ikonia: [kernel, not libc]
[10:23] <xMS_user> is swap necessary? i have 1gb ram and will upgrade next week to 2 or 3gb. but i would not want my system using the hd for memory
[10:23] <ikonia> tapas: thats fine.
[10:23] <ikonia> xMS_user: swap is advisable.
[10:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: your system will only use disk when it runs out of ram OR is more effciant
[10:24] <tapas> ikonia: pretty name is edgy right?
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: dapper
[10:24] <spdf> xMS_user: It may rarely use it, but you should still keep it
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: edgy is 6.10
[10:24] <tapas> hmm, dapper has glibc 2.3
[10:24] <tapas> hrmpf..
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: ooh really
[10:24] <xMS_user> can i get way with a 128mb for swap
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: there you go then
[10:24] <tapas> edgy has glibc 2.4 it seems
[10:24] <ikonia> xMS_user: why bother
[10:24] <ikonia> tapas: that may still be linux-thread compatiable
[10:24] <ArthurArchnix> give it 1GB of swap and then when you upgrade decrease the swappiness. Links on the forums. I forget how it's done. But essentially you tell your system not to swap out very much.
[10:24] <tapas> so i wonder. does the edgy glibc have linuxthreads support still, toop?
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: ok, i'll tryu
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: 2.4 should still have it
[10:25] <xMS_user> ArthurArchnix: i did not know i could do that.
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: linuxthreads support was always an add on to libc as i understand it..
[10:25] <ikonia> xMS_user: you can't - you'd need to resize the partition
[10:25] <tapas> ikonia: so they might have built it without it.. will try and see
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: correct, but that add on was remove 2.5
[10:25] <ikonia> tapas: I suspect it's there for legacy support
[10:25] <xMS_user> ok, then in that case 1gb swap it is
[10:26] <xMS_user> is 15gb good for root and boot
[10:26] <tapas> ikonia: ok, now i only need to find an edgy image on ubuntu.com ;)
[10:26] <ikonia> xMS_user: depens on your needs
[10:26] <ikonia> tapas: pleanty around
[10:26] <tapas> ikonia: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download only offers me 6.06 or 7.10 ;)
[10:26] <ArthurArchnix> xMS_user: here's link for more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255511&postcount=43
[10:26] <tapas> ok, i suppose i'll dig in the pointed to locations
[10:26] <K9> re
[10:26] <K9> êó
[10:27] <ikonia> tapas: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/
[10:27] <tapas> ok
[10:27] <tapas> thanks
[10:27] <brk3> hi can anyone tell me how to run tightvncserver on port 5900 instead of 5901?
[10:27] <xMS_user> ikonia: well i alrady have my sites and my databases running off the /home dir. any data will be put there so i can backup the whole dir
[10:27] <tapas> brk3: sure.. don't run X on port 5900
[10:27] <tapas> ;)
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: then it's free for vncserver to take
[10:28] <cyberfin> hi ppl can anyone help a noob with a bash script?
[10:28] <brk3> tapas: umm, well then how do I change X's port?
[10:28] <ikonia> cyberfin: bash support is in #bash
[10:28] <cyberfin> thnx
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: well, for example startx -- :2
[10:28] <tapas> then it runs on 5902
[10:28] <ArthurArchnix> xMS_user: Now that I read the link I think I' going to turn it off. The demon helped solve my laptop hardrive death issues, so I think I'll give his swappiness hack a try.
[10:28] <tapas> brk3: erm maybe i talk nonsense
[10:28] <tapas> one moment
[10:29] <tapas> brk3: yeah i do talk nonsense
[10:29] <tapas> :)
[10:29] <nemilar> brk3: I think what tapas is getting at is, port 5900 is already in use...pick another port ;)
[10:29] <brk3> tapas: no you may be right but I would think there should be an easier way? you see I already can run vino on 5900 so I have that port forwarded. but I want to run tightvnc instead of vino
[10:30] <tapas> brk3: try the :0 option for Xvnc
[10:30] <tapas> i was wrong X's port for display :0 is 6000
[10:31] <tapas> so you should be able to simply tell tightvncserver to pass the :0 option on to Xvnc
[10:31] <nemilar> yeah i noticed that ;) 5900 is the default for vlc
[10:31] <tapas> which would cause it to use 5900
[10:31] <nemilar> er vnc
[10:31] <brk3> thanks il try it
[10:31] <Tidus> i have a small problem
[10:32] <tapas> fschmidt@caesar:/~$ tightvncserver :5
[10:32] <tapas> New 'X' desktop is caesar:5
[10:32] <xMS_user> denny are you from tvt?
[10:32] <Tidus> when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04, it tells me "Authentication failed. Authenticating the upgrade failed.  There may be a problem with the network or with the server." any ideas?
[10:32] <Jasmin_> nemilar: http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[10:33] <singlesun> no, i just tried that.... .my wireless adapter is still attempting to connect to the wireless network... but it never connects... even to unsecure networks...
[10:33] <singlesun> anyone?
[10:33] <brk3> exit
[10:34] <Jasmin_> nemilar: i hav to connect my airtel edge modem in kubuntu how do i do
[10:34] <nemilar> Jasmin_: no experience with that
[10:35] <singlesun> anyone have any clue why my usb wireless adapter is showing networks to connect to... tries to connect to them... but can not?
[10:35] <Tidus> when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04, it tells me "Authentication failed. Authenticating the upgrade failed.  There may be a problem with the network or with the server." any ideas?
[10:35] <singlesun> it was working fine just before i installed ;)
[10:35] <Tidus> have to go to 7.04 before i can step up to 7.10
[10:35] <Tidus> and the machine that's down has my only cd burner, so i can't just make a new cd
[10:35] <alanbshepard70> When I download and install a package from source to upgrade something that isn't in the repos how do I get the system to find that I've installed the package? Where do I install it to? I currently just put the source in my home dir and run ./configure && make && make install but this doesn't work :(
[10:36] <Jasmin_> plz anyone knows about airtel edge modem plz tel me how do i config.. http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/99
[10:36] <nemilar> Tidus: have you tried at another time?  Like, did you try a couple of days ago, and then again now?
[10:36] <Tidus> yeah
[10:36] <Tidus> it's a gpg key error
[10:36] <nemilar> alanbshepard70: generally that installs to /usr/bin/local, whereas packages install to /usr/bin
[10:36] <nemilar> alanbshepard70: err, /usr/local/bin, sorry
[10:37] <nemilar> man, I gotta go drink some coffee before I start telling people stuff
[10:37] <alanbshepard70> nemilar: thanks I'll try that
[10:37] <nemilar> Tidus: have you tried sudo apt-key update ?
[10:38] <Tidus> yeah
[10:38] <Tidus> same result
[10:38] <Tidus> didn't change either key
[10:39] <cwgannon> ahoy
[10:39] <cwgannon> if i have a core 2 duo, is there an x64 version of gutsy i should be installing?
[10:39] <Tidus> you can install the 64 bit version if you want... it's the amd64 cd image
[10:40] <Tidus> but it'll run the 32 bit version just fine
[10:40] <cwgannon> is there any benefit to be gained?  i already have the 32 bit version running, but if the x64 v will max the processor better, i'd switch
[10:40] <Rigolo> good morning
[10:40] <cwgannon> morning
[10:41] <Tidus> nemilar, same result after apt-key update
[10:41] <schlonzo> anybody know how to get 3945abg at 2.6.24 to work?
[10:41] <nemilar> Tidus: yeah, I'm looking around for a solution
[10:41] <Jasmin_> anyone help me plz..... about Airtel gprs/edge modem
[10:41] <Tidus> google is coming up dry for me
[10:41] <Rigolo> How do I create my own service startup script ubuntu style?
[10:41] <nemilar> Tidus: what version did you say you were trying to upgrade to?  FF?
[10:41] <Rigolo> do I need to create an upstart script?
[10:42] <esther> gr
[10:42] <schlonzo> does anybody know how i can get my intel 3945abg to work with kernel 2.6.24?
[10:42] <Tidus> 6.06 to 7.10
[10:43] <Tidus> err... 6.10 to 7.10
[10:43] <Tidus> the upgrade path is through 7.04
[10:43] <Tidus> and i think i got it
[10:43] <nemilar> Tidus: have you seen this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584425
[10:43] <Tidus> i have to install all updates first
[10:43] <Tidus> i found the upgrade notes from edgy to feisty
[10:44] <zLoSteR> hi can anyone tell why is my monitor turning off when there is no activity ?
[10:44] <schueler> Hi, is there a good, working download manager (should be able to increase speed by multiple conetctions)
[10:44] <schueler> it should be possible to set up a proxy
[10:44] <nemilar> zLoSteR: power save?
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i go to power options .. its on NEVER
[10:45] <zLoSteR> but still again its going black
[10:45] <zLoSteR> when no activity
[10:45] <nemilar> zLoSteR: is it turning off, or is it just going to a blank screen saver?
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i think it turning black screen
[10:45] <nemilar> check your screen saver ;)
[10:45] <zLoSteR> i've check it
[10:46] <zLoSteR> its off
[10:46] <nemilar> doesn't sound like it ?
[10:46] <schlonzo> does anybody know how i can get my intel 3945abg to work with kernel 2.6.24?
[10:46] <Gartral> hello all... my dpkg is svewed up
[10:46] <Gartral> screwed*
[10:47] <zLoSteR> pls if someone knows what to do .. because i can't one movie .. Normal way
[10:47] <zLoSteR> in about 10 minutes i have to move my mouse
[10:47] <zLoSteR> or press a key
[10:47] <zLoSteR> my screensaver is turned off
[10:47] <zLoSteR> and my power options is set to NEVER
[10:49] <naresh> hi
[10:51] <naresh> i m just trying clean url ?? can anyone help me ???
[10:51] <naresh> clean url in ruby on rails
[10:53] <bentob0x> I can't see inetd or xinetd on my process list, what is the default super-server on ubuntu?
[10:54] <Meronik> I have about 120 applications installed in Windows and I am transferring to Ubuntu. I need all those applications, what do I do?
[10:55] <zLoSteR> try installing wine if you want to work
[10:55] <bentob0x> Meronik: have a look at wine
[10:55] <naresh> hello
[10:55] <naresh> can anyone help me about clean url in ruby on rails ???
[10:55] <bentob0x> www.winehq.org Meronik
[10:55] <bentob0x> or sudo apt-get install wine Meronik
[10:56] <bentob0x> make sure you read the doc to see how to set it up and how to use it Meronik
[10:56] <Arnaud___> bonjour !
[10:56] <peleg> Good morning/evening everyone.
[10:56] <unop__> Meronik, there's a good chance that only a few of your applications will work well
[10:56] <Meronik> ok, I know wine. do you think it will run all the application until I find linux alternatives?
[10:57] <bentob0x> I can't see inetd or xinetd on my process list, what is the default super-server on ubuntu?
[10:57] <Meronik> "only a few"????
[10:57] <peleg> I wondered if someone could invest a few minutes helping me solve a problem which seems to be not too big, but does not let me access ubuntu.
[10:57] <unop__> Meronik, how many only you will have to find out by trying them on wine
[10:57] <peleg> I have posted it in the forum, but no-one replied, and in the meanwhile I'm using windows on a different computer... :-(
[10:58] <Meronik> ok, thank you
[10:58] <bentob0x> the alternative solution Meronik is to install VirtualBox and create a Windows machine to install the software you need to use on that virtual machine
[10:58] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[10:58] <peleg> So I'm here only because I think that this is quite urgent. Thanks ahead.
[10:58] <bentob0x> just type your question peleg
[10:58] <peleg> ok, thanks.
[10:58] <bentob0x> or link to the ubuntu post you made
[10:59] <peleg> this is my first post:
[10:59] <peleg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4229943#post4229943
[10:59] <tapas> hmm, the libc in edgy complains about my 2.4.36 kernel to be too old
[10:59] <peleg> and here is the continue of it:
[10:59] <peleg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405368&page=2
[11:00] <unop__> tapas, and it is quite old
[11:00] <tapas> unop__: edgy?
[11:00] <tapas> unop__: or the kernel?
[11:00] <unop__> tapas, the kernel -- it's in the 2.6 series now
[11:01] <tapas> unop__: i know
[11:01] <tapas> unop__: we have a legacy kernel module here
[11:01] <bentob0x> peleg: when you do ls -al ~/.dmrc what do you get?
[11:02] <peleg> I tried it once, in a minute I'm doing that again.
[11:02] <Maskarad239-8> tuxguitar is not in Synaptic (i use Gutsy) but I found it at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/tuxguitar/. Is this a bug or a only my problem? Please help me to solve this problem. When other have this Problem too I make a Bugreport in launchpad. Sorry for my english.
[11:02] <unop__> tapas, well, for the sakes of keeping that module you are kind of depriving yourself from a whole bunch of software that requires functionality from the 2.6 kernel
[11:03] <yeniklasorr> When I open 10-15 tabs on firefox, it is beginning to be unstable and not responding. How can I fix this?
[11:03] <_moro_bana_> does vncviewer work over local network or just over the internet or both
[11:03] <tapas> unop__: i know
[11:03] <peleg> -rw-r--r-- 1 peleg root 28 2008-01-30 8:57 //.dmrc
[11:03] <tapas> unop__: do you have any new information for me, too?
[11:03] <tapas> ;)
[11:03] <Gartral> both
[11:04] <unop__> yeniklasorr, then it's about time you had multiple firefox windows
[11:04] <josh__> anyone know a good program to do database uml diagrams ?
[11:04] <_moro_bana_> Gartral: is that for me
[11:04] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[11:04] <Gartral> yes
[11:04] <josh__> i tried DIA but i cant seem to find any objects that are database related
[11:04] <_moro_bana_> Gartral: please use my nick, the flood, thanks,:)
[11:05] <unop__> tapas, out of curiosity, what's this legacy module you have?
[11:05] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I mean firefox is slowing down
[11:05] <tapas> unop__: it's a custom robot control module
[11:05] <Gartral> _moro_bana_: ehh justa pain :p
[11:05] <unop__> yeniklasorr, well, yes, even firefox has limits as to much it can handle, sooner or later it's going to start feeling the weight
[11:05] <savvas> yeniklasorr: if you have a lot of extensions / add-ons, they might be slowing down firefox
[11:06] <aurus> galera
[11:06] <aurus> alguém pode me ajudar a instalar o virtualbocx
[11:06] <aurus> virutalboxc
[11:06] <unop__> tapas, right, and no available alternative for 2.6?
[11:06] <aurus> virutalbox
[11:06] <tapas> unop__: we are in the process of porting the module
[11:06] <savvas> aurus: #ubuntu-es or #vbox ?
[11:06] <aurus> pois quando executo o mesmo, me traz um erro de libxalan 110
[11:06] <unop__> !es
[11:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:07] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I have any 2 addons. I know it can be slow when open lots of windows. But I'm using windows xp too. On windows xp there is no slowing down abou firefox.
[11:07] <tapas> unop__: for the time being we need a 2.4.x system where we can run our software builds from our feisty systems
[11:07] <peleg> @bentob - are you still with me?
[11:07] <tapas> unop__: and this means glibc >= 2.4 and glibc <= 2.5
[11:07] <tapas> ;)
[11:07] <tapas> this leaves me with edgy
[11:08] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : I think i could be about memory usage. Maybe ubuntu has limitate about firefox. I don't know :(
[11:08] <unop__> yeniklasorr, i'm not sure - i usually start using new windows after about 7-8 tabs otherwise firefox becomes really unstable
[11:09] <savvas> yeniklasorr: if you are using i386 ubuntu and more than 2gb of memory, then yeah, that's a problem :P amd64 ubuntu version supports more than 2gb i think
[11:09] <unop__> tapas, well, i guess with this predicament, it's one way or another, no? i dont think you can have both
[11:09] <yeniklasorr> savvas : I have 1 gb of ram
[11:09] <tapas> unop__: hmm? we got it to work on a gentoo box
[11:09] <tapas> but gentoo is a pain to administer
[11:09] <tapas> need a software -> wait X hours
[11:09] <unop__> savvas, that would be 4gb actually, i386 can address upto 4gb
[11:10] <savvas> tapas: I think I suggested you to switch to a debian 2.4 kernel some days ago
[11:10] <unop__> tapas, if thats the case maybe you'd like to ask the guys in #ubuntu-devel
[11:10] <yeniklasorr> unop__ : If you use another window after 7-8 tabs, firefox isn't firefox be slow ?
[11:10] <aurus> thanks
[11:10] <tapas> savvas: yeah i played with debian systems.. they don't offer a 2.4 glibc
[11:10] <savvas> unop__: ah thanks :)
[11:10] <unop__> yeniklasorr, no because each window is it's own process
[11:11] <tapas> savvas: my tries to build one myself without using dpkg-buildpackage or similar failed
[11:11] <yeniklasorr> <unop__ : Okay I'm trying it now :D
[11:11] <_Lucretia_> can anyone help with this usb scanner?
[11:11] <_Lucretia_> it's supported by sane, but I've only ever been able to get it working every now and then, mostly not
[11:12] <peleg> I'm still looking for someone nice that could - maybe - help me with a quite urgent issue. I cannot login to my ubuntu because of $HOME/.dmrc problem.
[11:13] <peleg> I just can't access my ubuntu (the GUI; I CAN access the terminal)
[11:13] <savvas> tapas: i think you're looking for libc, http://packages.debian.org/etch/libc6.1
[11:13] <tapas> peleg: log into terminal
[11:13] <schmakk> hallo! i have some trouble with my ati x800, proprietary drivers and a fresh gutsy install. x gives me severely garbled graphics on boot, and then gives me "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" stuff. halp
[11:13] <tapas> peleg: mv. dmrc .dmrc.bak
[11:13] <peleg> I'm in the terminal (on a different computer)
[11:14] <tapas> savvas: well, that's for version 2.3, too no?
[11:14] <tapas> yeah 2.3/6
[11:14] <tapas> 2.3.6
[11:14] <erUSUL> peleg: boot into recovery mode and check the ownership and permissions of the file... should be user: youruser; group: youruser; chmod 600
[11:14] <peleg> moved the file
[11:15] <savvas> tapas: no idea, check out the "Similar packages:" on the right menu too
[11:15] <tapas> savvas: i searched my ass off
[11:15] <peleg> erUSUL: I think that I've done that already.
[11:15] <tapas> savvas: there's no libc 2.4 or 2.5 for debian afaik
[11:15] <tapas> edgy having 2.4. is my lucky day :)
[11:15] <savvas> oh
[11:15] <savvas> :\
[11:15] <peleg> I wrote it here
[11:16] <tapas> peleg: log into it via ssh and mv the dmrc
[11:17] <drowner> dudes: good live distro, free, with antivirus?
[11:17] <_Lucretia_> I'm not getting any /dev/usb/* devices (I also don't have the /dev/usb dir), but I am getting changes in /dev/usbdev5.6_ep?? files < present if the scanner is plugged in
[11:17] <savvas> drowner: it's called ubuntu :P
[11:17] <peleg> tapas: in a minute.
[11:18] <peleg> I'm getting help in a private channel at the moment, thanks.
[11:18] <schmakk> anywhere i can go to find people whos hardcore with ubuntu and ati cards?
[11:18] <erUSUL> peleg: my .dmrc (umodified since install afaik contain tw simple lines 1: [Desktop] 2: Session=default
[11:18] <savvas> schmakk: try your luck here
[11:18] <drowner> savvas: yeah, fair enough
[11:18] <drowner> i have ubuntu
[11:18] <schmakk> savvas: i just did, nobody said anything so i figured there could be a gfx related channel or something
[11:19] <drowner> but my comp illeterate friend
[11:19] <drowner> has XP and a virus
[11:19] <erUSUL> !ati | schmakk
[11:19] <ubotu> schmakk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <drowner> i was hoping you dudes would point out a distro for me ;)
[11:19] <schmakk> erUSUL: i did just that, and i got garbled gfx on reboot, then "ubuntu is running in low gfx mode" and so on.
[11:19] <_Lucretia_> ANYBODY?
[11:20] <savvas> drowner: if he has a good internet connection, he could use ubuntu and search for an antivirus from the menu Applications > add/remove - you don't have to be comp literate to update and search :)
[11:20] <drowner> this is true
[11:20] <drowner> but its a slow download, really
[11:20] <drowner> for what he needs
[11:21] <savvas> drowner: otherwise you have www.linuxmint.com or.. www.thinkgos.com ?
[11:21] <drowner> maybe
[11:21] <drowner> i'm wondering if RIP has it
[11:21] <polysilicon> How to find out the floppy device filename? In my case its noe /dev/fd0
[11:21] <drowner> Recovery is POssible
[11:21] <savvas> schmakk: otherwise, a better way to ask are the www.ubuntuforums.org or at launchpad http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[11:21] <polysilicon> In my case its not /dev/fd0
[11:22] <schmakk> savvas: i suppose so. thanks anywya :)
[11:22] <savvas> schmakk: are you using the restricted or the open source drivers?
[11:23] <schmakk> savvas: i used the gui to get the restricted ones. ubuntu even knew my dell p1110 monitor. when i set both of those up, x hurls
[11:24] <schmakk> if i just get restricted drivers, x works, but then i cant run 1600x1200
[11:24] <balbir__> need some tool for worldtime, which will always be in top
[11:24] <misterwayne> Hi all, i just got visualboyadvance-gtk from APT (its a GBA Emulato) .. how can i run it? if i type visualboyadvanced in die bash nothing happens ..
[11:24] <L3ttuc3> schmakk ati drivers?
[11:24] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: yes.
[11:24] <schmakk> i read they could be flaky, but that doesnt help me much :)
[11:25] <L3ttuc3> schmakk there was one with the widescreen bug that reset maximum resolution to 1280x1024. they release one a week or two ago that fixed this, however i'd not heard of your problem.
[11:25] <savvas> schmakk: hum, i'm using nvidia, it's totally out of my league, sorry :) doesn't dell support their stuff?
[11:25] <savvas> misterwayne: try gvba
[11:25] <misterwayne> thx dude!
[11:26] <savvas> np:)
[11:26] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: 1280x1024 isnt my max res, 1600x1200 is just missing. it goes all the way up to 19xx 17xx something something
[11:26] <schmakk> savvas: dell does, but not when its as old as this thing :)
[11:26] <balbir__> need some tool for world time, which will always be in top
[11:26] <L3ttuc3> schmakk im still waiting for them to fix their opengl implementation; trying to use 'opengl' with vlc does not work, everything else gives me jerky video when hardware 3d acceleration is on.
[11:26] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:26] <L3ttuc3> schmakk are the entries in xorg.conf?
[11:27] <balbir__> I need to see the time of UTC, PST and EST
[11:27] <L3ttuc3> savvas ati drivers are a pain.
[11:27] <balbir__> to analyse it
[11:27] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: i tried checking, but i never bothered till it was too late. entried are there, but at the time i checked, ubuntu booted in a resolution my monitor could take at all. entries went up to 2kx2k stuff
[11:27] <savvas> L3ttuc3: I know, that's why I bought nvidia :P
[11:27] <pawan_> hi
[11:27] <L3ttuc3> savvas bit screwed when you already have a laptop though :/.
[11:27] <pawan12> hi
[11:28] <schmakk> at that point, even console was fubar. could only see the top left fourth of the screen when switching to another terminal
[11:28] <gig> hi guys! i'd like know what install theme in gutzy gibbon....
[11:28] <gig> sorry for my english
[11:29] <L3ttuc3> schmakk try manually editing them in a console? sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:29] <L3ttuc3> schmakk that does sound a bit messed up. had a similar problem upgrading nvidia drivers about 8 years ago. that was one of the major reasons i went off linux that long.
[11:29] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: tried, but i can only see the top left half of the screen. like console is written with a way too big font or something. and no, i dont know how to correct that with commands
[11:30] <albech> my network is crashing randomly.. all of the sudden i cant even ping my router and it returns 'no route to host
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk you could try booting off the liveCD and editing from there.
[11:30] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: i did, but eventually i just gave up and nuked the partition with ubuntu. igot frustrated that even gui stuff didnt work :)
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk try downgrading to a previous ati driver?
[11:30] <L3ttuc3> schmakk problem solved then?
[11:31] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: solved in the sense that i have no ubuntu, but windows. some of the eyecandy i saw with a fresh gutsy install was really nice
[11:31] <L3ttuc3> schmakk eyecandy is one of the major reasons i zapped vista and xp.
[11:32] <L3ttuc3> and im hoping this install of gutsy is going to be stable. last one was on a usb hard disk, and that died after interface IO errors (apparently).
[11:32] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:32] <_Lucretia_> is the scanner module prebuilt into the ubuntu kernel?
[11:32] <schmakk> L3ttuc3: come on, its the only pr0n nerds get! besides, it can be useful, like how it looks when you switch desktop and stuff
[11:33] <L3ttuc3> i love it. got some stuff i can tinker with. sorry. bit off topic.
[11:34] <schmakk> oh well, thanks for the help savvas and L3ttuc3. im off to give it another go. if part of denmark blows up, you now know why
[11:34] <L3ttuc3> lol.
[11:34] <L3ttuc3> good luck.
[11:34] <savvas> hehehe
[11:36] <zLoSteR> need little help :}
[11:36] <Arelis> Hi all. Remember me asking all those questions about Linux distro's and stuff? Well, i got helped out pretty well and i found out i was actually looking for a bullet-proof OS. Because i tend to break computers. lots. So we came to this solution: Use a core OS, place virtual machine software on that and do my daily tasks IN that virtual machine. But what would be a good core OS?
[11:36] <Arelis> So: Core OS -> Two virtual machines (Windows, Linux) -> Daily tasks
[11:36] <Arelis> Please don't ask the reason. I'm sure of it.
[11:37] <bod_> hi guys
[11:37] <Tidus> Arelis, sorry to ask, but why do you tend to break computers?
[11:37] <Tidus> or how...
[11:38] <Arelis> Tidus: Well... many times it's different. Installing stuff, removing stuff, customizing things..
[11:38] <MasseR> Ho wcome my ubuntu 7.10 changes /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sda1 randomly? Besides the other drive isn't even sata but ide, it should be hd*, right?
[11:38] <MasseR> *how come
[11:38]  * bod_ thinks Arelis needs to learn to read the instruction manual     ;) 
[11:38] <Arelis> Tidus: The thing is, i spend more time fixing my computer, than using it.
[11:38] <Arelis> bod_: see above
[11:38] <Tidus> i use a mac for my daily tasks...
[11:39] <bod_> Arelis, why is your computer always broken?
[11:39] <Tyczek> how to control the fan speed in laptop?
[11:39] <Tidus> i keep a linux machine to play around with, and windows for games
[11:39] <aantipop> how do i create a backtrace ?
[11:39] <Arelis> bod_: Well it's different every time.
[11:39] <bod_> Tidus, i ditched win completely now    yay!!!
[11:39] <white_eagle> !yay bod_
[11:39] <savvas> Arelis: a good core os would be one that first and foremost supports the virtual machines and has a good support for a graphical interface for you to play with your virtual machines. you got a good dozen of them: debian, centos, fedora, ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu... whatever suits your stylish needs
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yay bod_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <Tidus> bod_, congratulations
[11:39] <white_eagle> !yay | bod_
[11:39] <ubotu> bod_: Glad you made it! :-)
[11:40] <bod_> Arelis, lol cool
[11:40] <idefix_> where's the office  channel/
[11:40] <idefix_> ?
[11:40] <bod_> tht was to white_eagle
[11:40] <white_eagle> :)
[11:40] <savvas> idefix_: #openoffice.org ?
[11:41] <Arelis> savvas: well i'm on OpenSuSe now (which i was using as my main system) but virtualization on it is crap. I've had Ubuntu being unstable issues. I always used Gutsy. Is Feisty better?
[11:41] <bod_> Arelis, sorry that wasnt for u,.,.,. erm,. so is it your fault they break? because you were messing with something you shouldnt have messed with? or some factor you couldnt control?
[11:41] <bod_> Gutsy for the win!!!
[11:41] <savvas> Arelis: feisty (7.04) is even more unstable compared to gutsy (7.10)
[11:41] <Arelis> bod_: I often mess with things i should not mess with. And sometimes it happens out of itself.
[11:42] <DarkHelfer03> how i can change the resolution to 1280x1024 ? the max is 1024x768
[11:42] <Arelis> And sometimes i just do normal things (like installing virtualbox from a .dpkg) which break things like apt-get, making it segfault all the time.
[11:42] <brk3> is there a way to bind tightvncserver to display :0?
[11:42] <Arelis> savvas: And Dapper?
[11:42] <bod_> Arelis, i have used linux for 1 month (thats right 1,. and i was a windows user) (now im in here helping people with the simple stuff) but my point is,. gutsy 7.10 is almost brilliant if you use this channel
[11:43] <Tidus> i've been using linux since Mandrake 9.0
[11:43] <savvas> Arelis: well they say it's the long term support, it has to be stable. I can't remember though, after 2 years of upgrades :) gutsy seems to like me. btw, are you using virtualbox or vmware? http://www.virtualbox.org
[11:43] <Tidus> so roughly 6 years
[11:43] <bod_> Tidus, golden oldie ,.,.;~)
[11:44] <Arelis> savvas: Which is better?
[11:44] <DarkHelfer03> can one help me ? .__.
[11:44] <savvas> Arelis: definitely gutsy
[11:44] <bod_> DarkHelfer03,  im not sure if you can have a bigger res then your screen allows
[11:44] <Arelis> savvas: no i mean virtualbox or vmware?
[11:45] <savvas> Arelis: ah, vbox is a lot quicker when it comes to running applications, and I'm afraid that the binary package is the way to go (not the opensource) since they have some goodies installed along with the binary version, like the virtualbox addons
[11:46] <DarkHelfer03> my screen allow 1280x1024
[11:46] <g0tcha> hey guys, anyone here installed ubuntu on an external hdd?
[11:46] <Tidus> DarkHelfer03, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:46] <Arelis> savvas: Alright. I have a Gutsy CD in front of me. Think the unstableness has been me screwing the system up all the time?
[11:46] <Tidus> Arelis, possibly
[11:46] <Tidus> i'm the same way you are
[11:47] <bod_> Tidus,  whats this -phigh bit ,. i thought it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg
[11:47] <savvas> Arelis: what are your system specifications? processor, ram memory, graphics card to begin with
[11:47] <Tidus> but i figured out that if i want a system to stay running, i can't tinker with it too awful much
[11:47] <Arelis> Tidus: I'll enter the liveCD now and we'll talk further. :)
[11:47] <Arelis> savvas: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard:ATI Radeon 9600, RAM: 768MB
[11:47] <Tidus> -phigh makes it ask all questions
[11:47] <savvas> Arelis: the ati card might be a problem
[11:48] <Tidus> the 9600 is supported by xorg proper
[11:48] <Arelis> savvas: why?
[11:48] <Tidus> in both 2d and 3d mode
[11:48] <Arelis> Tidus: alright
[11:48] <bod_> Tidus, ok cool ty,.,. oh and do you no how i would take a tar backup of my machine, excluding the other hard drives and piping the tar file to an external drive when its finished?
[11:48] <savvas> Arelis: well a lot of people complain about it, but give the livecd a go, if you have internet connection, I think the rest can be fixed :)
[11:48] <bod_> *external = internal but other
[11:48] <Tidus> bod_, i'm not a shell wizard ... otherwise i'd help ya
[11:49] <Ziroday> bod_: have you looked at rsync?
[11:49] <DarkHelfer03> what driver ? tdfx, tga, trident, tseng or vesa ? i have a Geforce 2
[11:49] <Arelis> savvas: alright. I've been using Ubuntu for about a year though. And Debian before that, and Gentoo before that. And i've not had many issues with my ATI card. But will virtual machines work? Oh, and one last question: Should i upgrade the core OS when the time comes?
[11:50] <Tidus> Arelis, my system: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ @ 2.603ghz, Videocard: nVidia GeForce 6600GS, RAM: 512MB
[11:50] <bod_> Ziroday, if thats a backup program i dont want to use one,. i want the joy of typing things and making things happen ,. im board of gui apps since winbugs,.,.thanks anyway
[11:50] <Ziroday> DarkHelfer03: for a geforce 2 look you need vesa
[11:50] <Ziroday> bod_: its a backup cli program :)
[11:50] <bod_> Ziroday, who's cli?
[11:50] <Tidus> CLI = command line interface
[11:50] <Ziroday> bod_: command line program
[11:50] <DarkHelfer03> i have the geforce 2, my 7600GS make many problems >_>
[11:50] <Unagi> ok, i don't know if this the place to ask this, but i can't seem to ping any of my other computers from Ubuntu or vice versa by IP or Name, but i can ping my router and access the internet
[11:51] <bod_> Ziroday, oh,.im intrigued,. go on
[11:51] <Unagi> i am a linux noob
[11:51] <bod_> hi
[11:51] <DarkHelfer03> and now reboot ?
[11:51] <Ziroday> !rysnc > bod_ (look at pm from ubotu)
[11:51] <savvas> Arelis: well my suggestion would be to install gutsy for now, use it for a year (until it is supported), then switch to hardy, which is a bug-fixing release, they say it's going to be even more stable
[11:51] <Tidus> DarkHelfer03, yes
[11:51] <DarkHelfer03> ok bye ^^
[11:52] <bod_> anyone ,.,. networks,. for Unagi?
[11:52] <Tidus> savvas, hardy's going to be the next LTS release
[11:52] <Arelis> savvas: use it for a year?
[11:52] <Arelis> savvas: Not directly switch to Hardy?
[11:52] <bod_> Ziroday, ubotu is a dum bot,.,.  he knows nothing of that program
[11:52] <Tidus> !rsync
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Arelis> !info rsync
[11:52] <ubotu> rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[11:53] <savvas> Arelis: yeah, but if you want something stable, give it some time, around june there will be another hardy release 8.04.1, I'd wait until june
[11:53] <bod_> savvas, i dont want it to be amazingly stable,.,. cause then i wont learn anything,.,. they should make deliberate mistakes,.,.;)P
[11:53] <Unagi> guess im not worth helping :<
[11:53] <Arelis> savvas: alright.
[11:53] <Ziroday> bod_: apologies thought there was a factoid on it
[11:53] <Arelis> Ziroday:
[11:53] <Arelis> !info rsync
[11:53] <ubotu> rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[11:53] <bod_> Ziroday, dw il google it ,.,.cheers
[11:53] <Assid> bod_: then go hardy
[11:53] <Tidus> savvas, kinda like 6.06.1 ?
[11:53] <savvas> Arelis: you yourself said you tend to break stuff, if you stick to one release for some time, you get stable :)
[11:53] <savvas> Tidus: exactly :)
[11:54] <Arelis> savvas: alright :)
[11:54] <Assid> i can probable crash any OS
[11:54] <bod_> Assid, im no where near good enough to bug fix my way out of an alpha
[11:54] <Arelis> savvas: i didn't know there were 8.04.1 releases?
[11:54] <Arelis> are there sub-releases?
[11:54] <Ziroday> Arelis: there are no sub releases
[11:54] <savvas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <savvas> everything you need to know about the release schedule
[11:55] <Ziroday> savvas: that schedule is not definite yet,
[11:55] <Assid> i think the opengl issues compiz brings up should be solved first tho
[11:55] <Assid> Ziroday: the lts release is a good 6 months away
[11:55] <bod_> Unagi did anyone answer you?
[11:55] <savvas> Ziroday: it's somewhere there :) give or take a month hehe
[11:55] <Ziroday> Assid: no
[11:55] <Ziroday> savvas: about right :)
[11:56] <Assid> no?
[11:56] <albec1> what can it be that cause my computer to randomly loose all connectivity.. it can ping itself, but not the router
[11:56] <Tidus> the release schedule is definite
[11:56] <Ziroday> Assid: the LTS release is less than 6 months away barring some unforseen catostrphe
[11:56] <Tidus> 2008.04.27 is more than likely going to be the date for hardy
[11:56] <albec1> i have been keeping an eye on the log files and they say nothing
[11:56] <Ziroday> Assid: it currently nearing beta stage
[11:57] <Nermal> albec1, dodgy network driver ?
[11:57] <bod_> guys your leaning towards !ot,. we need to be supporting the people with questions
[11:57] <bod_> not talking bout hardy
[11:57] <Assid> Ziroday: yeah i know.. but its no where NEAR stability
[11:57] <savvas> Tidus: don't bet on that, maybe they'll release it sooner to avoid the massive downloading
[11:57] <kristian42> albec1: Is your link lamp green on the nic ? I know it stupid but half the time thats my nic problems ;)
[11:57] <albec1> Nermal: yes, thats my thought
[11:57] <Nermal> what card us
[11:57] <Nermal> is it
[11:57] <Assid> heck it cant even recursive delete in nautilis on an external drive
[11:57] <DarkHelfer03> hm it not work :(
[11:58] <Ziroday> Assid: depends which view youre coming from, im running it on my laptop perfectly. Also ubuntu+1 talk in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:58] <albec1> kristian42: the switch still show have the link light on
[11:58] <Assid> k
[11:58] <albec1> im pinging the system from another one and when the nic crash i get 'no route to host'
[11:58] <DarkHelfer03> one moment i change my monitor
[11:58] <kristian42> albec1: tried ifdown & ifup combination ?
[11:59] <hypnus9> !server
[11:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[11:59] <albec1> kristian42: tried network restart.. i guess that do both
[11:59] <savvas> !kernel
[11:59] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[11:59] <albec1> kristian42: after a reboot the system is connected again
[11:59] <Nermal> albec1, anything in dmesg
[11:59] <ispino> hello
[12:00] <Ziroday> albec1: next time that happens try sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[12:00] <ispino> how can i burn a cd with imaged with .mdf
[12:00] <albec1> nothing in the log files
[12:00] <cosmodad> ispino: download mdf2iso, use it to convert the image to the generic .iso format, and burn it with standard software afterwards.
[12:00] <Nermal> so nothing in dmesg ?
[12:01] <cosmodad> ispino: download=install: it's in the repository.
[12:01] <zLoSteR> did someone knows why my screen is turning black ... when no activity ? EVEN WHEN I WATCH MOVIES
[12:01] <albec1> Nermal: nope
[12:01] <Nermal> albec1, try rmmod'ding the module and modprobing it again
[12:01] <ispino> thnks i ll try
[12:01] <Ziroday> !caps | zLoSteR
[12:01] <ubotu> zLoSteR: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:01] <Nermal> zLoSteR, because your video player is not xscreensaver aware
[12:01] <zLoSteR> sorry :}
[12:02] <albec1> Nermal: the network driver module?
[12:02] <Nermal> albec1, yeah
[12:02] <Ziroday> zLoSteR: look at Power Management Preferences
[12:02] <zLoSteR> i already try there
[12:02] <zLoSteR> its set to never
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLoSteR: using mplayer?
[12:02] <Blinkiz> Am in need linux headers and probably some other stuff. I learned about a nice little program for this a few days ago. Was something with "moduleassistant". I was really simple. What can it be?
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLinux: oh to never -- nevermind then.
[12:02] <zLoSteR> no .. Totem
[12:02] <kristian42> albec1: I usualyl keep an el-cheapo nictucked away. I actually have problems with about 50%  of the embedded mainboard nics.
[12:02] <Ziroday> zLoSteR: also disable all screensavers
[12:02] <zLoSteR> they are disabled
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLinux: sorry wrong one.
[12:02] <cosmodad> zLoSteR: some BIOS setting possibly?
[12:03] <Administrator_> hi
[12:03] <zLoSteR> never thought of that
[12:03] <albec1> kristian42: yeah.. i should probably just throw in a good old 3com
[12:03] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: module-assistant
[12:03] <zLoSteR> well there what can i done ;]
[12:03] <zLoSteR> brb
[12:03] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: short-hand m-a
[12:03] <Tidus> albec1, i keep a good old realtek 8139 floating around :)
[12:03] <albec1> Nermal: i cant figure out which module it is
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: lsmod :D
[12:04] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: it's used for building kernel modules, however, the headers are a prerequisite to it.
[12:04] <Nermal> albec1, can you paste the output of dmesg to pastebin ?
[12:04] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: you can download headers using synaptics/apt-get/aptitude.
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: give me a sec
[12:04] <Administrator_> how to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 7.10???
[12:04] <Nermal> !nvidia
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <albec1> Nermal: have to reboot it and hope it stays up while i paste it :D
[12:05] <Nermal> albec1, ok :)
[12:05] <Blinkiz> cosmodad: That was the command. "sudo module-assistant m-a". Very nice little line. Thanks :(
[12:05] <Blinkiz> I mean, :)
[12:05] <RomeReactor> Administrator_: go to 'System->Administration->Restricted Drivers manager'
[12:05] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: it's: sudo m-a <options>
[12:05] <cosmodad> Blinkiz: or sudo module-assistant, but don't concatenate.
[12:06] <albec1> im installing ubuntu on my dads computer after finally convincing him its the way to go and he is a bit worried about this problem ;)
[12:07] <DarkHelfer03> this monitor allows 1280 >_>
[12:07] <Administrator_> thx
[12:08] <lerio> guys can i install 32bit ubuntu 7.10 in 64bit machine?
[12:08] <Nermal> yup
[12:08] <arthur37854> help what happened to my screen grafix?
[12:08] <Nermal> they went wrong
[12:09] <Ziroday> arthur37854: youre going to have to be slightly more descriptive then "its broken"
[12:09] <mahmood> get gcc link
[12:09] <arthur37854> my resoulition is low  800x600 can't get back 1024x768
[12:09] <Nermal> mahmood, apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:10] <Ziroday> arthur37854: are you running gutsy?
[12:10] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: what video card do you have?
[12:10] <Nermal> arthur37854, did you boot your machine up without the monitor on ?
[12:10] <arthur37854> the power went out
[12:10] <arthur37854> then the screen res went haywire
[12:11] <Nermal> cntrl -alt -f2
[12:11] <Nermal> login
[12:11] <arthur37854> gutsy 7.10
[12:11] <Nermal> and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:12] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: did you try the Screen Resolution application in 'System->Preferences'?
[12:12] <dZen|n|> hello do smebody know any "hosted exchange" for linux ?
[12:12] <arthur37854> not sure of the video card but fro lspci says vga compatable controller ATI tecnologies inc 3d range pro apg
[12:12] <Ziroday> dZen|n|: not the right place to ask.
[12:12] <dZen|n|> where then ?
[12:12] <lerio> i have 32bit installer and a 64bit machine...is this possible to install the 32bit to 64bit machine?
[12:13] <RomeReactor> lreio: yes.
[12:13] <dZen|n|> lerio: yes
[12:13] <albec1> http://www.pastebin.org/17358
[12:13] <arthur37854> I reinstalled the system during install I have good grafics but after install it goes low res
[12:13] <arthur37854> yes I tried to adjust it
[12:13] <Ziroday> arthur37854: do you have a monitor plugged in when you start up your machine?
[12:13] <arthur37854> yes
[12:14] <arthur37854> monitor pluged in yes
[12:14] <Nermal> arthur37854, what happened after you restarted gdm like I said
[12:14] <arthur37854> it shows up plug and play 800x600
[12:14] <dZen|n|> try to stop and start you pc several times.
[12:14] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: are you using the open source drivers or the proprietary ones?
[12:14]  * Nermal sighs
[12:14] <albec1> Nermal: did you get my pastebin?
[12:15] <arthur37854> im not sure what drivers im using
[12:15] <Tidus> arthur37854, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and make sure the correct screen resolutions are selected.
[12:16] <donald_> ati 3d rage pro is old
[12:16] <Nermal> albec1, yes - all I can see is your gigabit network card being eth0
[12:16] <albec1> yeah
[12:17] <albec1> i dont see anything wrong in the dmesg myself
[12:17] <arthur37854> what after reconfigure reboot? or restart x
[12:17] <albec1> Nermal: and when it crashes its not leaving anything in the log files
[12:18] <RomeReactor> arthur37854: press CTRL+ALT+F1, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[12:18] <Tidus> arthur37854, restart X
[12:18] <RomeReactor> arthur37854:then run the command
[12:18] <albec1> Nermal: id like to restart the module though
[12:18] <pranith> how do i disable preview for pdf files in nautilus.. while retaining it for video files?
[12:18] <lerio> i tried to install many times but all i see is black screen and wont log to xserver
[12:19] <Tidus> albec1, modprobe -r <module name> removes the module from memory
[12:19] <ispino> cosmodad i install the packages
[12:19] <Tidus> then just modprobe <module>
[12:19] <Nermal> Tidus, he's not sure what module it is :|
[12:19] <ispino> what is the command for export
[12:19] <Nermal> can you paste the output of lspci and lsmod ?
[12:19] <lerio> regarding the 32bit ubuntu to 64bit machine is this possible
[12:20] <donald_> lerio: 32bit will run on 64-bit machine
[12:20] <RomeReactor> pranith: in the terminal: gconf-editor
[12:20] <pranith> RomeReactor, yeah.. i opened it.. which option do i disable in here?
[12:21] <RomeReactor> pranith: there go to "desktop->gnome->thumbnailers" and disable "application@pdf"
[12:21] <lerio> donald: i tried it many times and it wont log to xserver it restarted 6times
[12:21] <donald_> lerio: ubuntu version? live CD?
[12:21] <odysseas> hi all, does ubuntu have a special tool to configure /etc/fstab or should I edit it manually?
[12:22] <pranith> RomeReactor, Thanks a Lot!
[12:22] <pranith> :)
[12:22] <lerio> ubuntu 7.10 and a live cd
[12:22] <Ziroday> odysseas: what program are you thinking off?
[12:22] <lerio> donald: 7.10 and a live cd
[12:22] <odysseas> Ziroday I just formated one partition and now /etc/fstab has a wrong entry for it
[12:22] <Oli``> odysseas: yeah it has loads vi, vim, joe, nano, emacs, gvim, gedit, etc =)
[12:22] <donald_> lerio: hardware specs?
[12:23] <Tronic> Is it possible to force the installer to install on existing partitions without formatting them first?
[12:23] <albec1> restarting the module doesnt help
[12:23] <Tidus> odysseas, it shouldn't be too hard to edit by hand
[12:23] <zombie_monkey> http://www.overcompensating.com/comics/20080130.png
[12:23] <donald_> Tronic: not a good idea for /
[12:23] <zombie_monkey> wait, wrong channel
[12:23] <Tronic> donald_: I only have data files there, no system.
[12:23] <lerio> donald: gigabyte ga-vm900m, pentium4 HT 64bit, 1Gb ddr2, shared video
[12:24] <himanshu> nebdy knows how to install yahoo msgr on ubuntu
[12:24] <Tronic> The problem is that I don't want to move 50 gigs of files somewhere else and back.
[12:24] <Tidus> himanshu, pidgin can connect to yahoo
[12:24] <arthur37854> now I have switch user pannel quit unexpectedly reload or don't reload?
[12:24] <himanshu> but i want voice also
[12:24] <donald_> Tronic: shld be OK then
[12:24] <himanshu> is it there in pigdin
[12:24] <Tidus> not too sure
[12:24] <dhavalp> hi all is there any method to install ubuntu without formatting hard disk
[12:24] <Ziroday> himanshu: no
[12:24] <donald_> lerio: sounds OK. maybe hardware problems
[12:25] <Tronic> donald_: Yes, if only I could get past the installer that doesn't let me do that.
[12:25] <donald_> Tronic: try the alternate-CD
[12:25] <spydr4590> Does anyone know an easy to understand guide to compiling source code?
[12:25] <himanshu> by d way thnx for d info
[12:26] <albec1> looks like its a known problem.. with the r8169 module
[12:26] <zLoSteR> hi again
[12:27] <zLoSteR> i tried in bios but still nothing
[12:27] <zLoSteR> :\
[12:27] <donald_> Lerio: when does the computer restart? after u get a desktop or before?
[12:28] <dietztho000> WOW!
[12:28] <khelll> how can i c the real sizes of all folders in my home direcotry?
[12:28] <Sjimmie> cd ~; du -sch *
[12:28] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: did you uncheck the "Activate..." box in 'System->Preferences->Screensaver'?
[12:29] <donald_> khell du -sh folder_name
[12:29] <zLoSteR> its unchecked
[12:29] <Isoplast> hlello guys
[12:29] <zLoSteR> in my session manager there is something like gnome-power-manager
[12:29] <donald_> are we all guys here?
[12:29] <lerio> donald: i think during the gdm it restarted 6 times and says theres something wrong
[12:29] <zLoSteR> if i remove him
[12:29] <zLoSteR> does it work ?
[12:29] <Isoplast> and girls ;)
[12:29] <donald_> lerio: video problems
[12:30] <Isoplast> do you also have the problem connecting to icq?
[12:30] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: you caould try unchecking it instead of removing it
[12:31] <Isoplast> ah now its working again ;)
[12:31] <lerio> donald: i set the shared video to PEG>>>128Mb
[12:31] <donald_> lerio: long time since i booted a live CD. try to set video settings at the boot Ubuntu screen
[12:31] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: in the screensaver app, did you move the sliders all the way to the right in "Power Management"?
[12:31] <zLoSteR> i will uncheck it ..but did i have to restart CPU
[12:31] <zLoSteR> yes
[12:31] <zLoSteR> its set to never
[12:32] <donald_> lerio: that is before you press Enter to "Start or Install Ubuntu" there are some options at the bottom
[12:32] <Yonie> hey guys, can any1 help me route a connection?
[12:32] <rinaldi1> whats a good app for checking cpu temp etc?
[12:32] <monTree> anyone thinks bill gates should run for president? since he quit micro soft
[12:32] <zLoSteR> in about 10 minutes mi screen become black
[12:32] <zLoSteR> even when i watching movies
[12:32] <lerio> donald: ya i tried the safe video mode
[12:32] <zLoSteR> when no activity the screen went black :\
[12:32] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: are you sure it's not a setting in your monitor?
[12:33] <donald_> rinaldi: if u have fairly recent ACPI, "aptitude install sensors-applet"
[12:33] <family> hi all im thinking about buying a Asus Eee PC 4G surf laptop its not an ordinary laptop it uses a flash card as the hard drive i was wondering will ubuntu install on this?
[12:33] <zLoSteR> yes i am sure 100%
[12:33] <huwei> 100%?
[12:33] <donald_> family: some people have it working. i will try one tomorrow
[12:33] <Nermal> see I'm only 73%
[12:33] <zLoSteR> now i will try to uncheck this gnome-power-manager in my session list
[12:33] <zLoSteR> end reboot
[12:33] <Yonie> does anyone know how to route a connection?
[12:33] <donald_> lerio: looks like you tried everything...
[12:33] <zLoSteR> then see what will happen ;]
[12:33] <family> sounds good donald you know what im talking about right?
[12:34] <donald_> yes
[12:34] <donald_> family: might not be easy since 4GB is quite small
[12:34] <lerio> donald: do you think it is the video problem? and if it is will i use the pci video card?
[12:34] <family> i can get a 8 gig flash card
[12:34] <donald_> family: there are issues with wifi on EeePC. there are patches for the Atheros chip
[12:34] <Dr_willis> family,  there a ubuntu-eee thread at the eee web sites i recall. yes it can do it.
[12:35] <Dr_willis> family,  and no i havent done it. :) i cant afford an eee yet. saving up my Lunch $$$
[12:35] <dgjones> family, have you seen this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[12:35] <huwei> EeePC ? how much?
[12:35] <family> aww thank you
[12:35] <family> :)
[12:35] <family> 299
[12:35] <family> $299 us dollars
[12:35] <family> http://www.buy.com/prod/asus-eee-pc-2g-surf-7-notebook-sky-blue-intel-mobile-cpu-512mb-2gb/q/loc/101/206655758.html
[12:35] <huwei> 4GB?
[12:35] <family> not trying to advertise but this is what im looking at
[12:36] <family> oh thats the 2g
[12:36] <family> the 4g is like 399
[12:36] <donald_> abt US450 here for a 4G EEE PC
[12:36] <bod_> !enter | family
[12:36] <ubotu> family: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:36] <donald_> lerio: try an external VGA card
[12:36] <lerio> donald: theres no question about the text base installer but my downloaded installer has corrupt bootfiles and i have the slow inet connection..thats why am asking is my 7.10 32bit be installed to 64bit....
[12:36] <donald_> lerio: 32bit can definitely work on 64bit
[12:37] <family> wow donald you should hit amazon :) dirt cheap aright im off to do some reading then some homework
[12:37] <donald_> Lerio: and i doubt a P4 HT is actually EM64T capavle
[12:37] <family> thanks for the great input and fast responses i really love this channel :).
[12:37] <donald_> family: we're in Malaysia. shipping would kill us
[12:37] <bod_> :)
[12:38] <family> wow im sure. well maybe they have something strieght out of japan thats where there made never know
[12:38] <Pici> !offtopic | family
[12:38] <ubotu> family: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:38] <huwei> actually,P4 HT is not good
[12:38] <donald_> Asus is from Taiwan
[12:38] <huwei> yes
[12:38] <family> Pici sorry im off to reading, everyone back on topic :)
[12:38] <donald_> i have a Fujitsu U1010 from Japan and it runs Ubuntu great
[12:39] <huwei> i like ibm
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> MACINTOSH FTW!!!!11!11!1!
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> thsfdg
[12:39] <donald_> huwei: P4 HT works ok with Ubuntu. i have one works great
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> fdgdfsg
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> fdgdfsgdfs
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> gfdgdsafg
[12:39] <Gr34t3st> ghsfdgh
[12:39] <aiwa> hi guys, what about acer?
[12:39] <donald_> aiwa: run away from Acer
[12:39] <lerio> donald: this was delivered from saudi and my bro-n-law assembled it for me....i got problems with this machine lately in installing 64bit 7.04 live cd bcoz it cant detect the sata drive but the text base installer has no problem except my corrupted installer then maybe i can make some remedy to 7.10
[12:39] <bod_> !enter | Gr34t3st
[12:39] <aiwa> why "donald?
[12:40] <huwei> acer ? cheap
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> oitgrhkfdl
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdghdfgdf
[12:40] <aiwa> ya
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdhdfsghdsfg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdhgfdsgsfdg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st> fdsghdfsg
[12:40] <Gr34t3st>  
[12:40] <rinaldi1> donald_: i installed sensors-applet but i can't find it or launch it from terminal when i type "sensors-applet"...
[12:40] <ubotu> Gr34t3st: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:40] <bod_> any ops/admin here?
[12:40] <donald_> lerio: u might have hardware problems. 7.04 can see SATA
[12:40] <aiwa> i have a fujitsu-siemens now, but it does not work well
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:40] <Buckeyegamer>  
[12:41] <bod_> Pici, nice one dude
[12:41] <huwei> the quality  of acer  is not good or bad
[12:41] <donald_> rinaldi: right click on clear area in panel and add "Hardware Sensors Monitor"
[12:41] <aiwa> what about Fujitsu-Siemens?
[12:41] <rinaldi1> donald_: it says "no sensors found"...
[12:41] <donald_> huwei: Acer is rubbish. BenQ is worse
[12:42] <lerio> donald: ya your right and some forums says just switch the sata controller to ahci but no ahci mode in this mobo...text base installer was good but i got slow inet connection
[12:42] <dhavalp> no one to tell me that..how can i install ubuntu without formatting
[12:42] <dhavalp> ??
[12:42] <donald_> rinaldi: hardware spec?
[12:42] <Pici> dhavalp: You'll need to repartition your disk..
[12:42] <Pici> !dualboot > dhavalp (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:42] <rinaldi1> i got a core 2 duo 6300
[12:43] <donald_> lerio: Gigabyte boards arent really that good
[12:43] <huwei> not rubbish
[12:43] <donald_> rinaldi: try in terminal "sudo modprobe core-temp
[12:43] <aiwa> what is so good laptop?
[12:43] <donald_> aiwa: i use a Thinkpad X61. gotta love it!
[12:43] <Pici> If you want to talk hardware, please join ##hardware. #ubuntu is only for Ubuntu support.  Thank you.
[12:43] <huwei> ibm my love
[12:43] <rinaldi1> donald_: i get FATAL: Module core_temp not found.
[12:44] <aiwa> IBM is sold to Lenevo
[12:44] <huwei> but now it  is a part of lennove
[12:44] <donald_> rinaldi: Ubuntu on hard disk or liveCD?
[12:44] <huwei> Lenevo
[12:44] <aiwa> is it the same quality
[12:45] <rinaldi1> donald_: hard disk
[12:45] <huwei> only computer
[12:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:45] <donald_> rinaldi: very odd. ubuntu version?
[12:45] <huwei> not the same quality
[12:45] <ajricoveri> how do i change text resolution on plain text mode ???
[12:45] <rinaldi1> donald_: 7.10
[12:46] <aiwa> ok guys, now i have a ubuntu question
[12:46] <tdrusk> what's the name of the new remote desktop manager for hardy?
[12:46] <aiwa> i have successed to use wireless on ubuntu after 1 year
[12:46] <lerio> donald: well its alright if this mobo likes the text base installer...and i did some install options  like noapic nolapic and etc..still stuck to the xserver issue..but anyway gonna try the pci card
[12:46] <petros> wwwhotsexot kom
[12:47] <aiwa> but its signal is too weak in compare to XP
[12:47] <donald_> lerio: sorry i ran out of options
[12:47] <PeP`> http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iU4Lq7tOR_WVOJLZ3IeRaIH03x6w w00t
[12:48] <PeP`> french gendarmerie goes ubuntu =D
[12:48] <donald_> rinaldi: u may need to try out for hardware sensors
[12:48] <bazhang> PeP`: interesting but offtopic
[12:48] <orgthingy> hello
[12:49] <orgthingy> how can I view hidden files?
[12:49] <roelb> ls -alh
[12:49] <lerio> donald: its alright actually that pci card never comes to my mind before you told me to try...thanks thas a big help for me...and thanks for your time
[12:49] <Ogedei> what is the recommended way to prevent a service (say postgresql) from starting up automatically, without actually uninstalling it? (update-rc.d insists on deleting the /etc/init.d file)
[12:49] <dhavalp> Pici : so is there no other way out like we do in windows....to upgrate or reinstall on the installed partition ?
[12:49] <PeP`> bazhang: terribly sorry, I thought it might be interesting to tell people in #ubuntu what was just decided three hours ago... :)
[12:49] <donald_> rinaldi: u need to install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to locate hardware sensor type
[12:50] <aiwa> I have Atheros wireless, but it is weak in compare to XP, is there anyway to improve it?
[12:50] <roelb> Ogedei, when a file is in init.d it does not mean it is started, it is a startup script, to actually start it , it should be in the runleven directories (etc/rc0-6.d)
[12:50] <bazhang> PeP`: better in #ubuntu-offtopic ;]
[12:50] <donald_> ogedei : install BUM
[12:50] <Pici> dhavalp: If you put your /home on a separate partition you can tell it not to format that.
[12:50] <soundray> Ogedei: update-rc.d doesn't delete the script in /etc/init.d -- only the references to it in the startup directories.
[12:51] <donald_> aiwa: just because XP says u got a good signal doesn't mean it's at 100%
[12:51] <RomeReactor> orgthingy: in Nautilus press CTRL+H; from the terminal do as roelb said: ls -alh
[12:51] <PeP`> th
[12:51] <PeP`> x
[12:51] <aiwa> donald, i can also experience that
[12:51] <orgthingy> ty
[12:52] <Ogedei> soundray: I was afraid to give it the -f switch, but apparently that was what I wanted. thanks!
[12:52] <cybergig> Morning
[12:52] <huwei> xp   or   vista
[12:52] <Jockeo> In OpenOffice SpreadSheet, how do I make e new line inside a text cell?
[12:52] <huwei> you choose
[12:52] <soundray> Jockeo: Ctrl-Enter
[12:53] <abcd> hi to all ..how to use biometrika fx2000 scanner on ubuntu what software is require i compiled driver for that it is working..but i dont know how to test it
[12:53] <Jockeo> soundray: Tried that, doesn't work...
[12:54] <soundray> Jockeo: then you have a strange keyboard. It works here
[12:54] <Ogedei> is there a system-wide configuration option for enabling colors in the console? (preferably including the boot messages)
[12:54] <Jockeo> soundray: ok thx, then I'll try it in another spreadsheet.
[12:55] <RomeReactor> abcd: did you try 'Applications->Graphics->Xsane'?
[12:56] <Jockeo> soundray: Thanks now it works. I hadn't formatted the cell as "text" (just typed text into it)
[12:56] <donald_> abcd: fingerprint scanner?
[12:56] <dhavalp> hmm ok thanks a lot PICI :)
[12:57] <soundray> Jockeo: hmm, so it has to be text... good to know.
[12:58] <Jockeo> soundray: Well it seems to work with some other formattings too (others than text). Maybe I'd formatted that specific cell in a strange way.
[12:59] <Jockeo> But after all, now it works :)
[12:59] <huwei> do you like china?
[12:59] <Pici> !offtopic | huwei
[12:59] <ubotu> huwei: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:00] <donald_> huwei: u in the wrong place. and yes, good china is always welcome. dinner and tea sets.. especially bone china
[13:00] <Arelis> Which CD can i best use to install Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[13:01] <Arelis> Also, i'm using virtualbox. It's very slow. can i speed it up?
[13:01] <donald_> Arelis: alternate CD is always best for me
[13:01] <bazhang> depends largely on your computer arelis
[13:01] <donald_> Arelis: more RAM helps
[13:01] <abcd> donald:yes
[13:01] <zLoSteR> RomeReactor,
[13:01] <huwei> sorry
[13:01] <Arelis> donald_: for some reason the livecd refuses to start. I get to the menu screen, press enter.. then it crashes
[13:01] <abcd> donald:it is fingerprint scanner by biometrka
[13:02] <abcd> biometrika
[13:02] <donald_> Arelis: get the live CD
[13:02] <zLoSteR> still nothing .. any other ideas ?
[13:02] <SpookyET> hi
[13:02] <donald_> abcd: names differ but chipset?
[13:02] <Arelis> donald_: for some reason the livecd refuses to start. I get to the menu screen, press enter.. then it crashes
[13:02] <donald_> Arelis: sorry. i meant alternate Cd
[13:02] <bazhang> Arelis: how much ram did you give it?
[13:02] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: other than uninstalling the screensaver, no; sorry.
[13:02] <Arelis> bazhang: 256MB
[13:03] <donald_> Arelis: how much RAM do u have total
[13:03] <Arelis> donald_: 768MB ram
[13:03] <zLoSteR> well i'am using xgl
[13:03] <Zhaozhou> Is it possible to make a kind of gateway with only one interface?
[13:03] <donald_> give it more.. try 384
[13:03] <bazhang> arelis 512 would be better
[13:03] <abcd> donald:fx2000  how to find out any command?
[13:03] <zLoSteR> can the problem be from there somewhere ?
[13:03] <donald_> abcd: usb ?? try lsusb with scanner plugged in
[13:04] <RomeReactor> abcd: have you tried this?: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/54043/
[13:04] <Pici> zLoSteR: I've fixed this on my computer... let me see if I can think of what I changed.
[13:04] <huwei> 512 is enough . i think
[13:04] <zLoSteR> you mean for turning off monitor ?
[13:04] <zLoSteR> Pici,
[13:04] <zLoSteR> ?
[13:04] <Pici> zLoSteR: Yes.
[13:05] <abcd> donald:lsusb shows Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0c43:0200
[13:05] <Arelis> bazhang: Now it says "Failed to start the virtual machine Linux."
[13:05] <zLoSteR> i will very thankful
[13:05] <jbitkill> ARELIS: around 386MB is just enough to run it.
[13:06] <Pici> zLoSteR: I think I just turned off the screensaver entirely, I'm not at the same computer to check though.  Theres a checkbox in the screensaver preferences if I remember correctly to toggle turning on the screensaver when the computer is idle.
[13:06] <bazhang> Arelis: hmm; with that little ram I dont know how successful you will be using ubuntu in a vm
[13:06] <donald_> abcd: probably not supported in Linux yet
[13:06] <zLoSteR> well yes and i uncheck it
[13:06] <jbitkill> Arelis: r u using Virtual PC, these is problems using that
[13:07] <zLoSteR> so the screensaver is off
[13:07] <donald_> Arelis: i have run Ubuntu Hardy on as little as 256MB on VBoc
[13:07] <Arelis> bazhang: I got told i could run VMs just fine with AMD Athlon 2800+, ATI Radeon 9600, and 768MB ram
[13:07] <Arelis> jbitkill: Virtualbox
[13:07] <donald_> i mean VirtualBox
[13:07] <zLoSteR> but still its going black when is idle
[13:07] <zLoSteR> :\
[13:07] <bazhang> Arelis: with any distro?
[13:08] <abcd> RomeReactor:yes from that link i have downloaded but it is saying that scan failed
[13:08] <jbitkill> don't know a lot about virtualbox
[13:08] <ikonia> Arelis: you can run vm's with that kit, but their resources will be very limited
[13:08] <Pici> zLoSteR: I cant check here unfortunately... sorry :(
[13:08] <donald_> i have run SLED, Debian, Freespire, FreeBSD, Fedora on VBox.
[13:08] <zLoSteR> thanks anyway ;]
[13:08] <Arelis> bazhang: what did you say? my PC crashed
[13:09] <donald_> only thing wont install is Solaris
[13:09] <bazhang> vmware user here; vbox just does not like my computer
[13:09] <Arelis> how do i get vmware?
[13:09] <bazhang> from the repos
[13:09] <Arelis> !vmware
[13:09] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[13:09] <RomeReactor> zLoSteR: try disabling ACPI in your BIOS or in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:09] <Arelis> !virtualization
[13:09] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[13:09] <donald_> zLoster: you may need to disable DPMS in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:10] <ikonia> Arelis: vmware is going to be an additional overhead on your virtualisation, just keep that in mind for your performance requirments
[13:10] <bazhang> arelis vmware-server is in the repos--it is what I use
[13:10] <donald_> i have tried VBox and Qemu. VBox is better
[13:11] <Arelis> ikonia: I require it to be as fast as a real PC, because i will use Ubuntu as my core OS, and run two os's on top of that, and do my daily work in those 2 virtual PC's.
[13:11] <ikonia> Arelis: that is not going to happen to be honest
[13:11] <donald_> Arelis: you sure that AMD can take all that and with only 768MB of RAM?
[13:11] <Arelis> donald_: they told me that in #windows
[13:11] <ikonia> Arelis: your host system is on the minimum or ram - and your two virtualied machines will be on the minium of ram - all will be slow
[13:12] <couguerd> gandalf.geeknode.org
[13:12] <zLoSteR> well
[13:12] <Arelis> ikonia: well as long as they work..
[13:12] <Arelis> which they right now don't
[13:12] <ikonia> Arelis: thats not what you said - you said you want them to perform as good as a normal PC which they won't, they will be very slow
[13:12] <zLoSteR> i am usign glx
[13:13] <donald_> zLoster: u may need to disable DPMS and also power saving for VGA in BIOS
[13:13] <bazhang> Arelis: you are trying to boot ubuntu in a vm on top of windows?
[13:13] <Arelis> bazhang: I am trying to boot two OS's on top of Ubuntu
[13:13] <donald_> if monitor goes blank, it's not the screensaver
[13:13] <zLoSteR> donald_,  is glx had something to do whit this
[13:13] <bazhang> ubuntu on top of ubuntu?
[13:13] <ikonia> Arelis: you are lacking ram and your cpu is quite slow. They will boot - but perform very slow
[13:13] <zLoSteR> some settings ? don't know exactly :D
[13:13] <donald_> Zloster: GLX works or doesn't work. nothing to do with screen blanking, unless u dont get a desktop
[13:14] <donald_> Arelis: maybe u are thinking Xen?
[13:14] <Arelis> donald_: tell me more, please.
[13:14] <donald_> Arelis: get more RAM first
[13:14] <bazhang> indeed
[13:14] <Arelis> don't have the money for that.
[13:14] <donald_> 768MB isn't a lot to play with VM
[13:15] <jbitkill> Arelis: im getting trouble with 1 virtualbox on 1gb, never mind 768mb
[13:15] <bazhang> Arelis: why do you want to boot ubuntu in a vm on top of ubuntu?
[13:15] <Arelis> jbitkill: I remember it worked with xubuntu on my pc. what you're saying is nonsense.
[13:15] <donald_> Arelis: if u can live with slowness, google Xen Ubuntu. there's a fairly good guide out there
[13:15] <Arelis> bazhang: Because when i do that, and do my daily work in the virtualized one, i can't screw up my core OS
[13:15] <ikonia> bazhang: a test/dev/play system ?
[13:16] <Arelis> bazhang: and i tend to screw up my OS lots
[13:16] <bazhang> ikonia: perhaps ;]
[13:16] <jbitkill> xubuntu uses around 128mb, kubuntu is around 256mb and gnome (ubuntu) is around 512mb
[13:16] <Arelis> jbitkill: yes but the CD won't boot.
[13:16] <beginner> Hi!im new beginner &  using ubuntu 7.10 when i use my flash disk then i couldnt eject it (no option to eject it)  could someone tell me how t? thnx
[13:16] <ikonia> Arelis: you'll need more ram and if possible a new cpu to maintain a reasonable level of performance for multiple vm's
[13:16] <donald_> Arelis: i think settings problem if CD wont boot
[13:16] <Arelis> it won't even BOOT. and with that i don't mean not having enough memory, i mean it's crashing the moment i press enter at the menu screen where there is "Boot ubuntu"
[13:16] <bazhang> Arelis: make a seperate home partition; then if things go awry you can just reinstall without losing valuable data
[13:17] <Arelis> bazhang: I've tried that one.
[13:17] <abcd> what should be contnet for Gem pc usb scanner in reader.conf...
[13:17] <RomeReactor> beginner: right-click on its desktop icon and select "Unmount".
[13:17] <bazhang> Arelis: what you are proposing is just not really feasible--three OS's on such a tiny amount of ram means serious lag
[13:17] <Arelis> bazhang: I won't run them ALL at the same time
[13:17] <donald_> Arelis: try the alternate CD and see if that fails as well
[13:18] <donald_> abcd: firstly, u need to load a module which see the reader
[13:18] <khelll> am  using gparted to resize my ntfs drive, but there a lock beside the drive, any thoughts ?
[13:18] <bazhang> Arelis: as donald say the alternate, or even the minimal install
[13:18] <bazhang> says even
[13:19] <beginner> romeReactor: i did that but its still  detected but with another name (disk before unmounted it,,Generic STORAGE DEVICE after doing unmount )
[13:19] <Arelis> bazhang: i don't think the alternate cd is gonna work. IF the liveCD would not work, it would at least display the console.
[13:19] <Arelis> but virtualbox crashes at that point. And my PC thereafter
[13:19] <abcd> donald_:gem pc is getting detected by using pcscd and libccid but i dont know how to configure it to use it?
[13:19] <donald_> Arelis: liveCD has no console
[13:19] <ubuntuMac> hi guys, my ubuntu is currently unbootable... so i boot in using liveCD and wud like to import firefox bookmarks... where can i find bookmarks..under which directory
[13:19] <Arelis> donald_: yes it does.
[13:20] <donald_> Arelis: i think your problem is the AMD overheating
[13:20] <bazhang> Arelis: best to just use your ubuntu install and keep plenty of backups/have a seperate home partition--the best way to learn about linux is to learn from mistakes
[13:20] <ubuntuMac> donald: Applications ->accessories- >terminal
[13:20] <Error323> Hi everyone, i've just bought an 8800GT and installed the latest drivers from nvidia, yet i'm having ~2000 fps with glxgears, can someone assist me on this? :)
[13:20] <donald_> abcd: cant help more
[13:20] <bazhang> and then learn how to fix them ;]
[13:21] <Arelis> bazhang: I've had a really extended conversation yesterday in #windows - we came to this solution, and said it would work just fine with these specs. I spend more time fixing the computer than using it. And i don't like that.
[13:21] <donald_> ubuntuMac: liveCD has not booted yet
[13:21] <beginner> and when i click on it it shows  all stored files
[13:21] <abcd> donald_:what should be the port number and channel number i have to write
[13:21] <RomeReactor> beginner: does it unmount? if so,  have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[13:21] <ikonia> Arelis: what exactly is the problem ?
[13:21] <donald_> Error323: i dont even get 500fps... :P
[13:21] <Error323> lol
[13:21] <Arelis> ikonia: The liveCD won't boot in the virtual machine.
[13:21] <ubuntuMac> Anyone knoes where is firefox bookmarks stored... in which directory
[13:22] <Error323> well it should be around 20.000 fps
[13:22] <ikonia> Arelis: ok - how are you trying to boot it, what happens, does it give you an error ?
[13:22] <bazhang> Arelis: yet the consensus here in #ubuntu says the opposite; who you going to trust? ;]
[13:22] <Arelis> ikonia: doesn't give me an error. It just crashes.
[13:22] <ikonia> Arelis: what virtualisation engine are you using
[13:22] <donald_> Arelis: i seriously think yr CPU is overheting when trying to virtualise
[13:22] <laughzilla> this is odd ... i successfully copied my .mp3 files to my friend's  ipod using soundconverter and then rhythmbox ... then i had to delete them b/c tehy were not named properly ... i removed them by selecting them in the song list in rhythmbox and hitting "delete" ... and then i tried to put the renamed files back on to the ipod, as well as other .mp3 files i made ... but now rhythmbox isn't writing any of the songs i'm trying to put on
[13:22] <laughzilla> the ipod.  do i have to reboot, or run some commands again each time i disconnect / reconnect my ipod to my ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon box ?  :)
[13:22] <ikonia> Arelis: define "crashes"
[13:22] <Arelis> ikonia: VirtualBox
[13:22] <compwiz18> Error323: If I remember, that card isn't supported yet? (someone confirm or deny?)
[13:22] <Arelis> ikonia: VirtualBox stops working entirely.
[13:22] <ikonia> what do you mean stops working ?
[13:22] <ikonia> expand on it
[13:22] <ikonia> I need more than "doesn't work"
[13:23] <Error323> compwiz18, deny it's currently supported
[13:23] <RomeReactor> ubuntuMac: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[13:23] <Error323> according to their website
[13:23] <Arelis> ikonia: Well, the program doesn't do anything. I can't interact with it. Shortly thereafter, my PC itself crashed.
[13:23] <Error323> and i've sseen people getting 20K fps on several forums
[13:23] <ikonia> Arelis: so the actual software hangs, then the PC's OS crashes ?
[13:24] <compwiz18> Error323: what driver did you install?
[13:24] <bazhang> Arelis: you are using windows then; otherwise why ask the folks in ##windows whether this would work or not
[13:24] <donald_> ubuntuMac. in /home/login/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxx/bookmarks.html
[13:24] <DarkHelfer03> i have now 1280x1024 but it show me 1280x800 and i can scroll down the screen Oo
[13:24] <compwiz18> Error323: the latest one, or the restricted manager one?
[13:24] <Error323> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run
[13:24] <Error323> but how can I be suer it's properly loaded compwiz18
[13:24] <Arelis> bazhang: I am using Ubuntu. I'm on Ubuntu. the folks in #windows who were helping me are gone.
[13:24] <compwiz18> Error323: glxinfo
[13:24] <Arelis> ikonia: yes.
[13:25] <ubuntuMac> donald,RomeReactor: i cant cd .mozilla
[13:25] <ikonia> Arelis: and your host system is what version of ubuntu ?
[13:25] <Arelis> ikonia: 7.10 gutsy gibbon
[13:25] <Arelis> i just freshly installed it.
[13:25] <Arelis> nothing installed/configured yet EXCEPT virtualbox
[13:25] <DarkHelfer03> when i save the Nvidia driver under my desktop, how can i install it ?
[13:25] <Error323> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 169.09
[13:25] <ikonia> Arelis: I suggest you get a livecd and use the "memcheck" option for a good few hours and stress your machine hard to make sure there are no ram errors
[13:25] <Error323> should be correct then
[13:25] <ikonia> Arelis: that behaviour is common with a ram/cpu error
[13:25] <bazhang> Arelis: then they have a limited understanding of #ubuntu
[13:25] <RomeReactor> ubuntuMac: did you navigate to another folder before?
[13:25] <Arelis> ikonia: Already did that a night in a week back or so. No errors.
[13:26] <RomeReactor> ubuntuMac: try it like this:
[13:26] <ikonia> zero errors ?
[13:26] <Arelis> ikonia: Zero errors.
[13:26] <RomeReactor> cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[13:26] <donald_> Arelis:
[13:26] <ikonia> Arelis: check the syslog for any warnings
[13:26] <compwiz18> Error323: i'm out of ideas. maybe they had a different setup then you or something...
[13:26] <mEck0> hi! does anyone owns a htc advantage? I want to know the size of the screen (I know it's a 5", but I want to know the size width+height)
[13:26] <ikonia> mEck0: check their website
[13:26] <ikonia> mEck0: contact the supplier
[13:26] <bazhang> mEck0: not the right place for that
[13:26] <beginner> RomeReactor: when i did "unmount" does that mean i eject it?
[13:26] <donald_> i am pretty sure u have hardware problems or cooling problems. a Vbox crash should not take down Ubuntu with it
[13:26] <Error323> mmm i guess... you dont' have that card by any chance compwiz18 ?
[13:27] <RomeReactor> ubuntuMac: oops; that's: cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default
[13:27] <ikonia> donald_: I agree, something is not adding up
[13:27] <Arelis> ikonia: Buffer I/O error on device hdc
[13:27] <compwiz18> Error323: I have an ATI card that gets 900fps, so be happy with your 2000 :P
[13:27] <Arelis> (and i'm using the actual CD-rom for installation)
[13:27] <ikonia> Arelis: thats a cdrom and shouldn't be a conrern
[13:27] <Arelis> yes it is.
[13:27] <Arelis> i'm using the cd-rom, not the iso, in virtualbox
[13:27] <Error323> compwiz18, my geforce 6800 got more =)
[13:27] <ikonia> Arelis: that shouldn't cause the machine to crash
[13:27] <Error323> 7700 to be precies
[13:27] <ubuntuMac> RomeReactor: yeah seems like haf to put the " ~ " symbol
[13:27] <Error323> *precise
[13:27] <compwiz18> Error323: well, I hope you get it working.... I can't help you anymore, sorry :(
[13:28] <RomeReactor> beginner: when you unmount it the icon should disappear from the desktop and you can safely unplug it
[13:28] <Error323> thnx compwiz18 hope so too
[13:28] <donald_> Arelis: u are wasting time trying to fix Vbox. we know it works. and with 768MB u can boot and run another machine though maybe not 2 or 3 VMs
[13:29] <Arelis> donald_: Alright. So maybe i should try downloading the iso and using that?
[13:29] <albech> the bug i have with the r8169 module for my netcard is fixed by upgrading to a hardy kernel.. can i just download that kernel and install it, or will it require something more?
[13:29] <donald_> Arelis: i doubt u will get very far
[13:29] <ubuntuMac> hei guys, how do i open firefox from the terminal
[13:29] <ikonia> donald_: cpu ramp up and over heat ?
[13:29] <donald_> ikonia: likely
[13:29] <beginner> RomeReactor : the problem that it hasnt disppeared ,,,, led still turned on and the icon change dit name to "Generic STORAGE DEVICE"
[13:30] <donald_> Arelis: try to install cpuburn and stress your AMD
[13:30] <Arelis> donald_: I found out the problem. the cd-rom was in the wrong cd-rom drive :D
[13:30] <RomeReactor> ubuntuMac: firefox
[13:30] <ikonia> Arelis: download a tool called "Stress Test" it's an iso linux distro that will hit your ram/cpu/disk io to test it for issues
[13:30] <ikonia> Arelis: that won't cause your OS to die
[13:30] <Arelis> ikonia: I found out the problem. the cd-rom was in the wrong cd-rom drive :D
[13:30] <hayatiste> slm
[13:30] <ikonia> Arelis: that will not cause your virtualsation AND os to crash
[13:30] <ubuntuMac> RomeReactor : thanks dude..
[13:30] <donald_> Arelis: wrong drive not likely the cause of your problems
[13:31] <RomeReactor> beginner: if you were copying files to it, it probably hasn't finished; give it a few minutes.
[13:31] <Arelis> donald_: I think the machine crashing was another issue.
[13:31] <Arelis> I let the virtualbox thing run for too long.
[13:31] <Arelis> when it already hung
[13:31] <beginner> wslm hayatist
[13:31] <hayatiste> slmm
[13:31] <ikonia> Arelis: now your just making stuff up
[13:31] <Arelis> It hung first, then after about 5 minutes the PC itself crashed.
[13:31] <sam__> uhm. i need help
[13:31] <egoleo> hello i am using acer 4520
[13:31] <ikonia> sam__: what';s up
[13:31] <donald_> Arelis: not likely
[13:31] <bazhang> hayatiste: hello; have a support question?
[13:31] <egoleo> and i just install gutsy
[13:31] <donald_> egoleo: i am so sad for you
[13:32] <Arelis> donald_: Well it's running the virtual machine now, and it's not crashing, nor is my pc.
[13:32] <beginner> RomeReactor ,,  i didnt do anything just plugging it the trying to ejecting them again to see if thats working or no
[13:32] <egoleo> but after installing it hangs in the splash screen
[13:32] <pine> anyone know a good console based app to rip dvd's ?
[13:32] <egoleo> any hel from any one plse
[13:32] <bazhang> Arelis: maybe the gurus in #vbox can help out
[13:32] <donald_> Arelis: good luck. u will need it
[13:32] <egoleo> try mencoder
[13:32] <Arelis> donald_: thank you :)
[13:32] <egoleo> for console dvd rip
[13:33] <sam__> Deluge has been working fine for like...6 months. And last night I got this error when it starts it says boost::filesystem::exists and i click ok like 20 times and then it says theres not enough free space when i have like 160 gb free
[13:33] <beginner> eject* it
[13:33] <sam__> ive already tried deleting the deluge folder
[13:33] <Arelis> bazhang, donald_, ikonia: I think it was an issue with the wrong CD-drive. Because i put it in the other one, and it worked. That was also the case when i was NOT using Virtual machines, but instead my real PC. I don't know what causes it, but when it reads through that CD-drive it makes it go faulty.
[13:33] <ikonia> Arelis: it was NOT an issue with the wrong cdrom
[13:33] <albech> any input on upgrading to a hardy kernel??
[13:33] <egoleo> oh any help with my ubuntu installation on acer 4520?
[13:34] <Arelis> ikonia: it's working right now!
[13:34] <ikonia> Arelis: your machine does not crash by putting the cdrom in the wrong drive
[13:34] <RomeReactor> beginner: I wouldn't recommend it, but you can try just unplugging it and then plugging it again.
[13:34] <donald_> albech: why would u want to do that?
[13:34] <Arelis> ikonia: it crashed by having the CD in the wrong drive, then running the virtualmachine and having it crashed, and keeping it running.
[13:34] <pine> just want dvd ---> avi, tired it but it so damn advanced
[13:34] <albech> donald_: cause it fixes a bug with my NIC
[13:34] <albech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76489
[13:34] <ikonia> Arelis I refuse to accept that
[13:35] <albech> donald_: my NIC hangs after 2-5 min use
[13:35] <new2linux> can someone help me get my internet connection work on xubuntu 7.10?
[13:35] <beginner> ok thnx RomeReactor
[13:35] <th0r> pine have you tried lemonrip?
[13:35] <donald_> albech: if it's a question of working or not working, then yea, upgrade. if it works now, then no good reason
[13:35] <donald_> egoleo: google or ask more defnitive question
[13:36] <Arelis> ikonia: then don't.
[13:36] <beginner> new2linux: whats type of your connection?
[13:36] <albech> donald_: well it works for like 5 min then i have to reboot the system to get it working again.. reloading module, restarting network... everything else wont get it working
[13:36] <KittyMeltdown> there aren't any better alternatives than wine are there in terms of a program that just makes a basic compatibility layer are there? lol
[13:36] <egoleo> when booting after the installation i get this ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid<uuid here> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[13:36] <egoleo> any help
[13:36] <new2linux> beginner, hardwire cable
[13:36] <donald_> albech? what chip?
[13:36] <sam__> anyone?
[13:37] <ikonia> egoleo: that basiclly measn the disk it wants to use is not there (or the ID it's referncing by)
[13:37] <albech> donald_: RTL8168b
[13:37] <MasterShrek> albech, maybe try compiling a kernel yourself? seems like itd be a pain to upgrade to hardy, which is pre-beta, just for a kernel upgrade
[13:37] <KittyMeltdown> new2linux, you know my hardwire wasn't being recognized on ubuntu for awhile, and after I updated it mysteriously worked
[13:37] <egoleo> so is there a way to use the live cd to rescue it
[13:37] <abcd>  how to find out particular usb device port number and channel number in system
[13:37] <KittyMeltdown> I have no idea why
[13:37] <beginner> ethernet or usb modem?
[13:37] <donald_> the errors u get and the NIC arent the same issues
[13:37] <bastid_raZor> sam__; uninstall it maybe? sudo apt-get remove deluge
[13:37] <egoleo>  so is there a way to use the live cd to rescue it
[13:37] <albech> MasterShrek: i wont upgrade the entire system, just the kernle
[13:38] <Error323> compwiz18, I have a final question, could it be that my xorg.conf is incomplete in any way?
[13:38] <new2linux> beginner, ethernet im pretty sure im getting the correct ip address i checked it on my router
[13:38] <albech> MasterShrek: and compiling the kernel manually wont solve the problem according to the bugbase
[13:38] <MasterShrek> egoleo, yes, boot the livecd, mount your partition, and fix your /boot/grub/menu.list
[13:38] <MasterShrek> albech, compile a *newer* kernel
[13:39] <donald_> egoleo: what are u trying to fix? a dead bootup or NIC?
[13:39] <ikonia> albech: why do you want a newer kernel?
[13:39] <sam__> sudo apt-get remove deluge
[13:39] <sam__> ah
[13:39] <egoleo> a dead bootup
[13:39] <MasterShrek> currently gutsy is 2.6.22, 2.6.24 is out now
[13:39] <MasterShrek> ikonia, it fixes a bug in his network card driver
[13:39] <albech> MasterShrek: why not just download the kernel image from hardy and run it?
[13:39] <sam__> Reading package lists... Done
[13:39] <sam__> Building dependency tree
[13:39] <sam__> Reading state information... Done
[13:39] <sam__> E: Couldn't find package deluge
[13:39] <donald_> egoleo: not easy
[13:39] <Pici> !paste | sam__
[13:39] <ubotu> sam__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:39] <albech> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76489
[13:39] <beginner> new2linux https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[13:39] <MasterShrek> albech, worth a shot i guess, any idea what kernel is in hardy right now?
[13:39] <ikonia> sam__: is the package actually called deluge
[13:40] <sam__> I assume lol
[13:40] <albech> well according to the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76489 doing just that is the fix
[13:40] <sam__> what else would it be called
[13:40] <Pici> MasterShrek: 2.6.24-5-generic
[13:40] <ikonia> sam__: dpkg -l | grep -i deluge
[13:40] <bazhang> !info deluge
[13:40] <ubotu> Package deluge does not exist in gutsy
[13:40] <spq> i have kubuntu and after the kernel starts i just get a black screen until kdm starts, is that normal? (no status infos etc)
[13:40] <rich__> my sound has just died is there a way of restarting the service?
[13:40] <bazhang> odd
[13:40] <donald_> egoleo: boot live CD. select rescue mode. drop to shell. modify /boot/grub/menu.list. run update-grub
[13:40] <MasterShrek> cool thx Pici, does that get updated with each git? i suppose it does huh
[13:41] <Pici> MasterShrek: No, it only udpates when the devs build a new kernel.
[13:41] <oklopol> not sure where to turn, i cannot access a website from my computer, and it's not about my ip, because my friend used my connection to access it
[13:41] <oklopol> using ubuntu
[13:41] <MasterShrek> ah
[13:41] <donald_> spq: u got a desktop, be happy. some people here dont get that far
[13:41] <ikonia> oklopol: are you using dhcp ?
[13:41] <oklopol> i'm using firefox and gftp
[13:42] <ikonia> oklopol: is your ip address to your computer (not router) assigned via dhcp
[13:42] <MasterShrek> oklopol, do you have an ip address? is it assigned using dhcp?
[13:42] <oklopol> the connection times out, as if i had some low level access-denied thingie
[13:42] <exneo> how do I enable my modem in gutsy
[13:42] <beginner> is it ok new2linux?
[13:42] <exneo> dial-up
[13:42] <oklopol> hmm
[13:42] <exneo> pcmcia
[13:42] <ikonia> oklopol: are you listening to what's being asked
[13:42] <donald_> albech: how would u install a new kernel on a system that wont boot?
[13:42] <oklopol> ifconfig gives me an address
[13:42] <egoleo> where do i get rescue mood
[13:42] <albech> donald_: it will boot
[13:42] <egoleo> mode
[13:42] <egoleo> i dont get that
[13:42] <Pici> !who
[13:42] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[13:42] <MasterShrek> oklopol, and that address is or isnt manually assigned?
[13:42] <exneo> how do I enable my pcmcia dial up modem
[13:42] <albech> donald_: everything works, but the network crash after 5ish minutes
[13:43] <MasterShrek> egoleo, you dont need rescue mode, just normal should be fine
[13:43] <rich__> my sound has just died is there a way of restarting the service?
[13:43] <robn> !hardy
[13:43] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:43] <oklopol> MasterShrek: can that have anything to do with it?
[13:43] <oklopol> my friend used my actual ip address to get there.
[13:43] <donald_> hardy now is on 2.6.24 kernel
[13:43] <exneo> bhaal how do I enable my pcmcia dial up modem in gutsy
[13:43] <oklopol> took the cable off my computer, tested, put it back
[13:43] <egoleo> so what should i change in this file /boot/grub/menu.list
[13:43] <donald_> u can try to download  the needed debs and install
[13:44] <sam__> now it wont even start
[13:44] <MasterShrek> oklopol, are you behind a router?
[13:44] <albech> donald_: and that kernel fix the problem with the RTL8168b chip
[13:44] <oklopol> i think so
[13:44] <Pici> !modem | exneo
[13:44] <ubotu> exneo: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[13:44] <oklopol> something is assinging ip's at least..
[13:44] <albech> anyone have experience with installing a hardy kernel?
[13:44] <MasterShrek> oklopol, is the ip a 192.168... or is it 194.251...?
[13:44] <Equ1n0x> hi all
[13:45] <rich__> my sound has just died is there a way of restarting the service?
[13:45] <oklopol> 194
[13:45] <oklopol> but... can that have something to do with it?
[13:45] <oklopol> i mean, you can connect from this ip.
[13:45] <bod_> Does anyone here play AmericasArmy? i have a sound issue with it
[13:45] <MasterShrek> oklopol, power off your cable modem, let it sit for like 15 seconds then plug it back in
[13:45] <oklopol> that has been tested
[13:45] <donald_> albech: add hardy lines to /etc/apt/sources.list then create a file /etc/apt/apt.conf and use Pinning to stick to Gutsy yet get packages from Hardy
[13:45] <oklopol> i've done that multiple times :P
[13:45] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - he's trying to determine whether you are on a dhcp assigned ip or on a static ip on the internet
[13:45] <MasterShrek> oklopol, oh...ok
[13:45] <oklopol> it's static in that it does not change, but i don't know if it's static.
[13:45] <_coredump_> moinsen
[13:46] <ikonia> oklopol: please open "system --> administration --> Networking" in the gnoem gui pleaes.
[13:46] <rinaldi_> bod_: i sometimes play the windows version in wine... not often though
[13:46] <bod_> oklopol, did you type the ip in to tell your computer what it was or did it automatically assign you an ip address?
[13:46] <oklopol> i opened --> network
[13:46] <oklopol> automatic.
[13:47] <bod_> rinaldi_, well i was searchin the net for something to do, then downloaded AA,. and i have no sound,. do you no how i would configure the game to use alsa?
[13:47] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - where did you test it from? local, or remote, i mean, and what sort of test was it, a ping?
[13:47] <ikonia> oklopol: ok - under eth0 what does it say, or can you post a screen shot
[13:47] <donald_> rinaldi: got yr sensors working?
[13:47] <oklopol> my friend took the cable, put it in his laptop, connected, put it back, i could not connect.
[13:47] <rinaldi_> bod_: so you're running the windows version right?
[13:47] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - that only proves the cable is good....
[13:47] <oklopol> :)
[13:47] <bod_> rinaldi_, not sure???? im running version 2.5.0 if that helps
[13:48] <oklopol> ikonia: eth0?
[13:48] <rich__> my sound has just died is there a way of restarting the service?
[13:48] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - is that what you were saying? I missed that..!
[13:48] <bod_> rinaldi_,  no im running linux version i think,.,. its all loaded/installed from the terminal
[13:48] <bazhang> oklopol: sudo dhclient eth0
[13:48] <oklopol> okay
[13:48] <exneo> I have to enable my modem to allow alsa to detect my onboard soundcard
[13:48] <oklopol> bazhang: now that i did that, what was the purpose?
[13:49] <egoleo> i am in the menu.ls file
[13:49] <egoleo> so what should i change there
[13:49] <bazhang> oklopol: what does the terminal say?
[13:49] <egoleo> plse
[13:49] <exneo> help
[13:49] <egoleo> help me
[13:49] <exneo> I wnt sound
[13:49] <donald_> egoleo: change to do what?
[13:49] <ikonia> egoleo: stop
[13:49] <MasterShrek> egoleo, i cant see your file, how would i be able to know what to fix?
[13:49] <rinaldi_> bod_: yeh well i wouldn't know about the native linux one, i didnt install that one because they stopped making it at version 2.5. they only support windows now...
[13:49] <ikonia> exneo: stop
[13:49] <bod_> !patience | exneo
[13:49] <ubotu> exneo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:49] <exneo> srry
[13:49] <bazhang> dualing pleas ;]
[13:50] <MasterShrek> !paste | egoleo
[13:50] <andrebarboza> ola
[13:50] <ubotu> egoleo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:50] <bazhang> hello andrebarboza
[13:50] <albech> donald_: looks like id better just install another nic in the system
[13:50] <MasterShrek> egoleo, but i have to run to class in 5 min, so u have to hurry or get help from someone else
[13:50] <donald_> albech: yea. better plan till hardy is released or a newer kernel
[13:50] <KitWiller> hi all
[13:50] <oklopol> http://www.pastebin.ca/884588 hope you cannot destroy me based on that
[13:51] <bod_> rinaldi_, yer,. i was just on the AA irc,. but they said it should still work,. i assume the actual interface is the same no matter which version, so say you had two different sound driver devices and you didnt have wine,. how would you configure it?
[13:51] <KitWiller> can any1 help me please?
[13:51] <oklopol> that was dhclient eth0
[13:51] <bod_> whats up?
[13:51] <SleepingSloth> KitWiller, ask away....
[13:51] <KitWiller> i'm using ubuntu 7.10 since 2 days... i've installed VLC
[13:51] <bazhang> oklopol: did it say no dhcpoffers?
[13:51] <MasterShrek> !enter | KitWiller
[13:51] <ubotu> KitWiller: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:51] <oklopol> it said that, then returned to the prompt
[13:51] <rinaldi_> well i googled it quick and got this http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=247006
[13:52] <SleepingSloth> KitWiller, so what is the problem?
[13:52] <egoleo> now i am confused
[13:52] <bod_> MasterShrek, pre-emptive but lol
[13:52] <bazhang> oklopol: I cant seem to load that page
[13:52] <KitWiller> but when i open a media-file... a NEW vlc was opened
[13:52] <MasterShrek> bod_, heh, i knew what was coming
[13:52] <oklopol> i'll repaste somewhere else then
[13:52] <egoleo> how do i copy a systems files which cant boot to graphics
[13:52] <bullgard4> "smbclient -L MD97600" functions. "smbclient -L Amilo7600" does not function: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE". How to get rid of this error message?
[13:52] <exneo> so plz how do I enable my dial up pcmcia modem
[13:52] <egoleo> and how do i type all
[13:52] <chazco> Anyone know how to get fonts to display in documents as they do on Windows? Using Textmaker for preference, but the spacing is wrong. Installing the msttcorefonts makes it much worse (pages shrink to about half the size!)... Any help?
[13:52] <egoleo> u said i should boot
[13:52] <bod_> MasterShrek, yer,. it was the lack of a proper ending to the sentence,.,. so obvious,.,.lol
[13:52] <egoleo> and run update-grub
[13:52] <oklopol> http://paste.servut.us/qro
[13:53] <egoleo> and change something in menu.lst
[13:53] <rinaldi_> bod_: either try http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=247006 or apparently its worked after rebooting for some reason
[13:53] <bod_> rinaldi_, cheers m8
[13:53] <egoleo> i am in now
[13:53] <donald_> egoleo: what is it you are trying todo?
[13:53] <oklopol> repasted there
[13:53] <egoleo> and now one is helping
[13:53] <family> whats the command to find out how much ram i might have?
[13:53] <egoleo> oh crap
[13:53] <MasterShrek> donald_, his grub config is borked
[13:53] <donald_> family: free
[13:53] <egoleo> i told u of my problem and u are asking me again
[13:53] <family> free ? that really works :)
[13:53] <bod_> !enter > egoleo              (Please read the private message from ubotu
[13:53] <donald_> egoleo: u cant boot Ubuntu at all?
[13:53] <MasterShrek> donald_, id help him, but i have class in 5 min
[13:54] <family> wow i thought you were being sarcastic thanks once again
[13:54] <bazhang> oklopol: are you not connected now?
[13:54] <egoleo> i said i cant boot
[13:54] <oklopol> wut?
[13:54] <oklopol> no...
[13:54] <donald_> egoleo: pls be patient
[13:54] <egoleo> after installing gutsy on acer 4520
[13:54] <oklopol> bazhang: what did that do?=
[13:54] <skyion> Hi Guys, general question, which support tracking system do you use ?
[13:54] <egoleo> and i asked how to save it
[13:54] <egoleo> bcos i dont want to reformat and my machine again
[13:55] <family> how much is this in mb? 515936 515mb
[13:55] <donald_> egoloe: so u install ubuntu. reboot and get nothing?
[13:55] <donald_> family: close
[13:55] <egoleo> yes
[13:55] <bazhang> oklopol: ping www.google.com
[13:55] <rinaldi_> bod_: if they didnt work you might want to try "killall esd"
[13:55] <SleepingSloth> family, yes
[13:55] <family> sounds good im selling my computer so i can get that lap top :)
[13:55] <donald_> family try free -m
[13:55] <family> thanks guys
[13:55] <oklopol> bazhang: i get a normal ping reply
[13:55] <bod_> rinaldi_, yer,. il try that,.,. im not gonna do it now,. but cheers anyhow
[13:55] <family> aww thats nice
[13:55] <oklopol> i may not have been clear here, i cannot connect a certain page.
[13:55] <egoleo> the splash comes and it takes me to ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid<uuid here> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[13:56] <bazhang> oklopol: what page
[13:56] <egoleo> so how do i solve this
[13:56] <KitWiller> i've gutsy with VLC installed and i've configured the sys to open mp3's with VLC, but when i open another mp3 file, it open a NEW vlc player... how i can
[13:56] <donald_> egoleo: if there is nothing on it, try installing again would be easier no?
[13:56] <egoleo> plse
[13:56] <oklopol> www.vjn.fi
[13:56] <idefix_> I upgraded to dapper and now wine doesn't work anymore
[13:56] <egoleo> this is the second time i have reinstalled
[13:56] <oklopol> don't ask why i want to connect there, please :)
[13:56] <donald_> egoleo: do u know how the partitions are laid out?
[13:56] <rich__> i figured it out, thanks for nothing
[13:56] <donald_> where is / ?
[13:56] <bod_> !enter | egoleo         please be patient and keep your questions/responses on 1 line
[13:56] <ubotu> egoleo         please be patient and keep your questions/responses on 1 line: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:56] <egoleo> yeas
[13:57] <oklopol> there's no ip ban there, i've checked
[13:57] <oklopol> plus... couldn't really be, since you can connect from my ip
[13:57] <donald_> where is / ? is it/dev/sda1?
[13:57] <bazhang> oklopol: it connects here; what about other pages?
[13:57] <oklopol> everything except that works normally.
[13:58] <egoleo> yes
[13:58] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, bazhang ikonia - sounds like dns then...?
[13:58] <egoleo> is /dev/sda1
[13:58] <adaminla> having trouble with firefox and opera this am.
[13:58] <bazhang> oklopol: SleepingSloth seems to have it
[13:58] <egoleo> and i have mounted it it with the livecd
[13:58] <oklopol> about dns... hmm
[13:58] <oklopol> how can that be fixed then?
[13:58] <donald_> in menu.lst look for a line #kopt=root=UUID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[13:59] <egoleo> so what next after mounting
[13:59] <egoleo> ok
[13:59] <bazhang> I am clueless about that oklopol ;[
[13:59] <oklopol> umm okay..
[13:59] <donald_> change to #kopt=root=/dev/sda1 ro
[13:59] <efdee> my file server started freezing today at boot, while loading the "enterprise volume management system"... out of the blue. any idea why ?
[13:59] <oklopol> but isn't dns done outside my computer?
[13:59] <bazhang> others here may know though oklopol
[13:59] <bod_> SleepingSloth, i think theres a site like,. dnsworld or something,. where you can get free dns's
[13:59] <oklopol> it has to be something internal to my computer, ofc
[14:00] <wiggeliBom> hey, what packages do I need to be able to browse the syscall manpages? I want the man pages for syscalls such as wait(), fork() etc..
[14:00] <bod_> oklopol, dns = Direct name server ,.,.it basically remembers names of sites
[14:00] <oklopol> oh
[14:00] <oklopol> i see
[14:00] <SleepingSloth> oklopol,  that depends - but probably. i was only offering a suggestion for something to consider.
[14:00] <oklopol> umm
[14:00] <oklopol> no i don't
[14:00] <donald_> egoleo?
[14:00] <bod_> oklopol, are you connecting with dhcp?
[14:00] <egoleo> ok done that. what next plse
[14:01] <wiggeliBom> bod_ dns = domain name system ?
[14:01] <donald_> Control-O save the file
[14:01] <egoleo> yes i have done that what next donald_
[14:01] <oklopol> bod_: hard to say, how do i check what i'm connecting with...
[14:01] <oklopol> :)
[14:01] <donald_> save the file
[14:01] <bod_> wiggeliBom, not sure actually,.,.google it  ;)
[14:01] <donald_> then run update-grub
[14:02] <bod_> oklopol, are you telling your computer exactly what information to use, or are you just pluging it in and hoping,.,. i assume your wifi'ing?
[14:02] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  fyi, there is openDNS, which i thik is what you were referring to
[14:02] <bod_> SleepingSloth, thats the one yer
[14:02] <oklopol> bod_: i connect by opening firefox and typing out the address.
[14:02] <choni> wenas
[14:02] <SleepingSloth> bod_, i quite often use their servers to check propagation. my isps dns servers seem to be very slow
[14:02] <bod_> oklopol, ethernet or wireless?
[14:03] <tapas> i have a fo;lder called .Trash-16142 in my home dir
[14:03] <oklopol> ethernet
[14:03] <tapas> i wonder where it comes from
[14:03] <tapas> [besides the usual .Trash which comes from gnome i guess]
[14:03] <bod_> SleepingSloth, i changed to there dns's and saw an increase of 50% in browsing speed
[14:03] <adaminla> when i open browser the whole desktop *flutters* and i cant stop it. have to reboot. does this call for a reinstall?
[14:03] <donald_> tapas: some long gone connected device
[14:03] <bod_> oklopol, open the network manager and tell me what you see
[14:03] <tapas> i can ssavely remove the folder?
[14:03] <donald_> tapas: look in it first
[14:04] <oklopol> bod_: you do know my friend connected there from my ip? just checking
[14:04] <tapas> hmm, nah it looks like the stuff i removed with konqueror
[14:04] <oklopol> i'll open
[14:04] <tapas> [although i run a gnome sesion]
[14:04] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, have you tried adding dns server(s) manually in the network config?
[14:04] <donald_> ahh
[14:04] <egoleo> now i have done that so should i allow it to generate a new menu.lst for me?
[14:04] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: no i have not
[14:04] <bod_> oklopol, just starting from step 1 m8,.,. we'll get to the complicated stuff when were sure all other alternatives have been tried
[14:04] <donald_> egoleo: u have a problem. it doesnt see yr file
[14:04] <egoleo> yes
[14:05] <oklopol> i'm in network settings now
[14:05] <egoleo> it say it want to generate new one
[14:05] <egoleo> yes/No
[14:05] <donald_> egoleo: how did u get to this stage? boot the LiveCD desktop and mount the hard drive?
[14:05] <egoleo> yeah
[14:05] <oklopol> i see "wired connection" and "modem connection\n address: dhcp" there
[14:05] <oklopol> errrrr
[14:05] <oklopol> i see "modem connection" and "wired connection\n address: dhcp" there
[14:05] <donald_> not the way to do it actually
[14:05] <egoleo> i did mount /dev/sda1 /media
[14:05] <oklopol> in Connections
[14:05] <egoleo> so how
[14:06] <oklopol> in general, i see my Host name
[14:06] <oklopol> in dns, i see two dns servers
[14:06] <bod_> oklopol, i got it the first time thanks.,.,. double click on the wired connection,. the modem is pointless unless you dont have broadband
[14:06] <egoleo> so how do i do it donald_
[14:06] <donald_> i normally use alternateCD for this task
[14:06] <idefix_> what does a little yellow star mean in the S square column in Synaptic PM?
[14:06] <oklopol> bod_: you do know internet works normally for me?
[14:06] <egoleo> i dont have
[14:06] <oklopol> i mean, i can connect to everywhere except that page
[14:06] <bod_> egoleo, by learning some manners and asking nicely ,.,.perhaps with a please soewhere in the sentence
[14:06] <donald_> boot the liveCD again. dont let it start on Install ubuntu.. use arrow keys go down to rescue
[14:07] <bod_> oklopol, oops,.,. no,.,. sorry whats the prob?,.,.lol
[14:07] <donald_> BOD: RIGHT ON
[14:07] <oklopol> :P
[14:07] <bod_> ;)
[14:07] <egoleo> there is no rescue option for me
[14:07] <oklopol> i cannot connect to www.vjn.fi
[14:07] <oklopol> connection times out
[14:07] <SleepingSloth> oklopol.....
[14:07] <donald_> darn..
[14:07] <oklopol> SleepingSloth.......
[14:07] <bod_> !manners | egoleo
[14:07] <ubotu> egoleo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:07] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, is that the only place you cant connect to?
[14:07] <oklopol> yes
[14:07] <oklopol> i don't know others, at least.
[14:07] <donald_> anyone here confirm the liveCD has no Rescue option?
[14:07] <Daworm> !bouncer
[14:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bouncer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:08] <egoleo> yes plse
[14:08] <Daworm> !muh
[14:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about muh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:08] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - how long has that been the case?
[14:08] <oklopol> a few days
[14:08] <donald_> anyone else beside egoleo confirm this please?
[14:08] <bod_> oklopol, this is an irc place from that site,.,. can you connect to it? : irc.quakenet.org
[14:08] <Daworm> Ok - anyone know much about setting up a bouncer for IRC ?
[14:08] <egoleo> why u dont believe what i am saying plse?
[14:08] <oklopol> bod_: look more closely ;)
[14:08] <oklopol> i'm there
[14:09] <oklopol> errr
[14:09] <Daworm> Just wondering about a personal preference.
[14:09] <bod_> oklopol, sorry,.,. i havent bothered going to the irc,.,. so its just the site ur having probs with?
[14:09] <oklopol> well, anyway, i'm part of vjn, and i have somewhat of a master access there
[14:09] <new2linux> I have a Dell Laptop Latitude c510 trying to get my wireless pcmcia card to work
[14:09] <bod_> oklopol, port blocking?
[14:09] <donald_> oh darn
[14:09] <oklopol> but i'm pretty sure this is something inside my comp.
[14:09] <oklopol> port blocking?
[14:10] <oklopol> bod_: you are in the irc.
[14:10] <laughzilla> bazhang - do you maybe have an idea as to why deleting the .mp3 files i put in my friend's ipod via rhythmbox has caused me to be unable to copy any more files to my ipod?  note: i even manually deleted the files after i noticed that rhythmbox had not actually removed the files from the ipod's file directories ... so i removed all those files and their empty directories, even rebooted this ubuntu box and again ran the commands from  htt
[14:10] <laughzilla> p://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/   and still i can't copy files to the ipod.
[14:10] <oklopol> freenode is an irc server
[14:10] <oklopol> (well network)
[14:10] <bod_> oklopol, just a thought,. its prob not,.,. the only thing i can think of is that you've been ip banned from the site,.,.;)
[14:10] <oklopol> well i haven't
[14:10] <bod_> lol
[14:10] <oklopol> i've checked it myself.
[14:10] <bod_> ok
[14:10] <bazhang> laughzilla: did you empty the trash?
[14:10] <oklopol> alsoi'm an admin, it's just i don't own the servers, and it's nothing
[14:11] <oklopol> eh
[14:11] <bod_> oklopol, so you have a site that is the only site on the internet you cannot connect to, but evryone else can? ,.,. thats really weird
[14:11] <oklopol> sorry, backspace failure
[14:11] <oklopol> you can connect there from my ip, as i've said about 100 times :)
[14:11] <bod_> oklopol, have u changed anything since you last browsed the site?
[14:11] <oklopol> no
[14:11] <oklopol> not to my recollection
[14:11] <oklopol> just stopped working
[14:12] <bod_> oklopol, have you got a shoe on? is your computer laptop or desktop?
[14:12] <donald_> egoleo: u are SOL
[14:12] <laughzilla> bazhang - i emptied the trash on my desktop and rebooted since then ... or do  u mean did i empty the trach via the ipod itself? (i don't know how to do that)
[14:12] <oklopol> i don't have shoes, desktop
[14:12] <egoleo> i am what? plse
[14:12] <bod_> oklopol, this will probably hurt then,.,. KICK IT!!!!!!!!
[14:12] <donald_> short of luck
[14:12] <bod_> LOL
[14:12] <Pici> bod_: ...
[14:12] <bazhang> haha
[14:13] <bod_> Pici, lol? my bafd
[14:13] <egoleo> still not working
[14:13] <donald_> it's odd that UUID is getting messed up
[14:13] <donald_> esp for a clean install
[14:13] <oklopol> good idea :D
[14:13] <oklopol> anyway, so no ideas what might make this happen?
[14:13] <egoleo> so any way for me to solve this?
[14:13] <bazhang> laughzilla: you worked so hard to install those files then immediately deleted them?
[14:14] <egoleo> i reinstalling plse can u show me the best way to install?
[14:14] <donald_> what is an acer 4520? desktop?
[14:14] <Arelis> donald_, I'm in the virtual machine now. It's faster than i expected :D
[14:14] <bod_> oklopol, reboot the router,. contact ur internet provider,. reinstall software,.,. sorry general ideas nothing specific
[14:14] <donald_> egoleo: the LiveCD has a foolproof installer
[14:14] <Arelis> donald_, I'm chatting FROM the virtual machine
[14:14] <donald_> Arelis: cheers
[14:14] <pteague> is it alsa or arts that allows input from multiple sources?
[14:14] <egoleo> yes is acer 4520 laptop
[14:14] <laughzilla> bazhang - those were only the first files i had to copy there anyway
[14:14] <oklopol> bod_: none of those sound like something that helps if it's nothing related to ip :D
[14:14] <egoleo> amd
[14:14] <Arelis> donald_, Now how do i store my files on the core system and make the virtual machine see those?
[14:14] <laughzilla> and i had to rename them
[14:14] <egoleo> nvidia plse
[14:15] <laughzilla> and now i can't copy any files to the ipod and i don't know why. quite odd.
[14:15] <donald_> Arelis: shared folders
[14:15] <bod_> oklopol, well,. try changing the timeout limit in your browser,. maybe its just taking ages
[14:15] <Arelis> donald_, tell me more
[14:15] <oklopol> you can actually connect from this exact ip, using vista, I'M SAYING UBUNTU LOSES TO VISTA (i'm so gonna get help now)
[14:15] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, are you certain there is no ip block on the seite?
[14:15] <bazhang> laughzilla: what about other mp3s? do they copy over correctly?
[14:15] <donald_> Arelis: set up shared folders
[14:15] <oklopol> bod_: does not sound feasible, it waits a few minutes, and it's a small site
[14:15] <Arelis> donald_, I've installed the virtualbox guest additions. now what?
[14:16] <laughzilla> bazhang - nope, i tried that as well before asking in here :)
[14:16] <bod_> oklopol, that phrase is not allowed,.,.;),.,.hhmmm,. must be software related,. erm,.,. thinking ...............................
[14:16] <bazhang> oklopol: this is not an ubuntu issue--there is a problem on your end
[14:16] <oklopol> bazhang: hmm?
[14:16] <oklopol> "on my end"?
[14:16] <oklopol> what's that
[14:16] <donald_> arelis: u have the shared folders tab?
[14:16] <broken__> I have an issue with amarok.. its very laggish is this normal?
[14:16] <broken__> Or am I missing something.
[14:16] <donald_> in Vbox settings
[14:16] <bod_> bazhang, if it works for his vista but not for his ubuntu, doesnt that mean it has to be ubuntu related?
[14:16] <Arelis> donald_, let me look
[14:16] <bazhang> oklopol: ##windows awaits you
[14:16] <oklopol> it cannot be about the connection, really
[14:16] <bod_> broken__, im using amarok now,. its fine,.,.not normal
[14:17] <idefix_> !register
[14:17] <oklopol> i've said that about a hundred times
[14:17] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[14:17] <laughzilla> in fact bazhang i can't even copy .mp4a files to the ipod, nor can i import files or dirs of .mp3 or .mp4a using rhythmbox's import features.
[14:17] <Arelis> donald_, i'll have to suspend the virtual machine for that.
[14:17] <adaminla> when i try to use firefox or opera my whole desktop *flutters.* is this something i can fix without doing a reinstal? running gutsy.
[14:17] <Arelis> donald_, hold on
[14:17] <broken__> bod_, what do mean not normal?
[14:17] <bod_> broken__, it is not normal for amarok to be laggy
[14:17] <SleepingSloth> bazhang,  i think it may be a ubuntu issue, if a different machine connects fine, that all but rules out a problem elsewhere
[14:17] <broken__> bod_, oh, so yours is working fine?
[14:17] <bazhang> laughzilla: I know amarok; rhythmbox not so much
[14:17] <donald_> egoleo: i would really advise u re-install. i cant see why yr UUID are messed up
[14:17] <bod_> broken__, like a charm,.,.;)
[14:17] <broken__> Scrolling mine is laggy, even opening it from the tray.
[14:18] <arkangelp> Hello ppl
[14:18] <bod_> hi
[14:18] <bazhang> SleepingSloth: perhaps; but with the ubuntu loses to vista in all caps I'm suddenly disinclined to help
[14:18] <egoleo> i am doing that donald_
[14:18] <laughzilla> bazhang - ok thanks :)
[14:18] <egoleo> so how do i prevent this again plse
[14:18] <bod_> broken__, what databse are you using for amarok?,.,. has it always been like this?
[14:18] <oklopol> it was a stupid joke, i'm just getting a bit annoyed by the fact people keep suggesting it's about my ip..
[14:19] <broken__> bod_, I'm using sqlite.
[14:19] <arkangelp> how can I uninstall Opera web browser from my system?
[14:19] <bod_> broken__, try reinstalling and using MYSql
[14:19] <donald_> egoleo: use default installation options
[14:19] <broken__> bod_, well on this install of ubuntu it's been like this but amarok has always been fast for me on previous installs / distros.
[14:19] <SleepingSloth> bazhang,  agreed. i missed that comment....
[14:19] <bod_> arkangelp, sudo apt-get purge opera
[14:19] <oklopol> ehh
[14:19] <Shinobi> heya bod_ remember me well anyways i got the windows installation done with and am trying to set up grub to dual boot
[14:19] <LjL> sudo apt-get --purge remove opera
[14:20] <oklopol> that was really just a joke...
[14:20] <bod_> Shinobi,  yer i remember you,.,. dont recall the prob though,.,.lol
[14:20] <SleepingSloth> bazhang, sadly, people seem to think it's a quick route to getting help as we desperately try to prove them wrong..
[14:20] <oklopol> :)
[14:20] <bod_> broken__,  is the music folder ina particularly deep place?
[14:20] <oklopol> no they don't...
[14:20] <arkangelp> thank u bod_
[14:20] <broken__> bod_, nope /home/music
[14:20] <bazhang> SleepingSloth: the perils of volunteering ;]
[14:20] <broken__> bod_, nope /home/broken/music
[14:20] <bod_> arkangelp,  no prob
[14:21] <bod_> broken__,  i would try reinstalling amarok and using sqlite again,. just try it,.,. if that doesnt work use a diff database
[14:21] <oklopol> i'm just i'm asking what could result in me not being able to connect to a certain site even though you can connect there from my ip. if there is a way, i'd like to hear it, because i'd kinda like to be able to connect.
[14:21] <SleepingSloth> bazhang, yah.
[14:22] <oklopol> *if there's a possible reason
[14:22] <bod_> oklopol, the only way is a forbidden site in the browser ubuntu is using
[14:22] <broken__> bod_, ok thanks.
[14:22] <oklopol> if you're really taking my uppercase comment as an *insult*, or a piece of idiocy, you are very very weird people.
[14:22] <oklopol> but i'll apologize, if it was really that bad.
[14:22] <oklopol> sorry
[14:22] <bod_> oklopol, turn off parental controls? ,.,.;)
[14:22] <sagieg> Hello i have 2 partitions one is xubuntu and winXP , my xubuntu takes forever to load but it works good once i get to the login screen (it takes about 5 full minutes until it gets to that screen) how can i solve this?
[14:23] <bazhang> heh
[14:23] <DShepherd> ubuntu doesnt seem to use inittab again. what's the equivalent file i can look for?
[14:23] <oklopol> i can access poen
[14:23] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - what error do you actually get when you try to browse to it?
[14:23] <oklopol> timeoput
[14:23] <oklopol> *
[14:23] <oklopol> timeout
[14:23] <siddhant> hi ppl
[14:23] <debaser_> hmm
[14:23] <oklopol> connection timed out
[14:23] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - what browser(s) have you tried?
[14:23] <oklopol> just firefox, but i've tried ftp with gftp
[14:23] <oklopol> and that timeouts too
[14:23] <laughzilla> bazhang - i fixed it :)
[14:23] <debaser_> bod_, its me shinobi again...the question -> i m confused in adding this line to the grub config (menu.lst) "rootnoverify (hd0,0)" the (hd0,0) how do i ffind out what to put there?????
[14:24] <bazhang> laughzilla: how?
[14:24] <dgjones> oklopol, do you have something like dansguardian installed on ubuntu, thats a parental control type system
[14:24] <laughzilla> somehow i had "locked" the files as read only, when i renamed them
[14:24] <oklopol> don't think so.
[14:24] <oklopol> i'm the only user here
[14:24] <siddhant> hi. i cannot install the xen-utils-3.1 package. some "/usr/sbin/dpkg returned an error code(1)" error coming.
[14:24] <bazhang> laughzilla: nice work then! ;] (the fix I mean)
[14:24] <siddhant> someone help. :(
[14:24] <oklopol> and i can access stuff a parent might not want me to see.
[14:24] <bod_> debaser_, do you want to hide it or disable it,.,. comment it out by putting a   #   infront of that line
[14:24] <sagieg> also how can i see the actions while i start my computer in xubuntu instead of only getting black screen and then the login screen?
[14:25] <debaser_> bod_, :S i want to be able to dual boot to windows
[14:25] <Leila> sagieg: hit escape
[14:25] <bod_> oklopol, only thing i can suggest is reinstall firefox
[14:25] <oklopol> gftp doesn't work either...
[14:25] <laughzilla> bazhang - yeah thanks again, :)  good questions from you and others, plus logic and trial & error contributed to how it got figured out.  :)
[14:25] <bazhang> likely an ip ban imo
[14:25] <Leila> oklopol: try kftp
[14:25] <bod_> debaser_, do you want to no what ur hd0,0 nuber is?
[14:25] <oklopol> they stopped working at the same time, as if i had an ip ban *outwards* from my comp
[14:26] <SleepingSloth> oklopol,  can you ping the site?
[14:26] <oklopol> i'll try
[14:26] <bazhang> excellent laughzilla!
[14:26] <debaser_> bod_, yeah thats it
[14:26] <new2linux> can anyone help me, I have a Dell Laptop Latitude c510 trying to get my wireless pcmcia card to work
[14:26] <bod_> debaser,. let me find the file
[14:26] <debaser_> ok
[14:26] <donald_> new2linux: what PCMCIA card?
[14:26] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: times out.
[14:27] <new2linux> donald, IEEE802.11g WLAN CardBus Card
[14:27] <oklopol> well, hasn't timed out yet, but haven't gotten a reply.
[14:27] <siddhant> pls help me. i cannot install the xen-utils-3.1 package. some "/usr/sbin/dpkg returned an error code(1)" error coming.
[14:27] <oklopol> it definitely resolves the ip of the site.
[14:27] <donald_> new2linux: not much help. chipset?
[14:27] <bod_> debaser_, do this :sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:27] <new2linux> donald, not sure was used computer came with the wireless card
[14:28] <DShepherd> ubuntu doesnt seem to use inittab again. what's the equivalent file i can look for?
[14:28] <Leila> new2linux: have you looked on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[14:28] <Pici> oklopol: Whats the site again?
[14:28] <oklopol> www.vjn.fi
[14:28] <new2linux> leila, no but i will now thank you
[14:28] <donald_> new2linux: open terminal. lspci with card inserted
[14:28] <oklopol> i have ftp admin access there
[14:28] <donald_> or rather, do it before and after to see what changed
[14:29] <oklopol> it's a webhotel, i'm kinda part owner.
[14:29] <bod_> debaser_, ??? u done that?
[14:29] <sagieg> Hello i have 2 partitions one is xubuntu and winXP , my xubuntu takes forever to load but it works good once i get to the login screen (it takes about 5 full minutes until it gets to that screen) how can i solve this?
[14:29] <donald_> sagieg: get a new computer. add more RAM
[14:30] <dgjones> oklopol, you could try renaming your  ~/.mozilla  to ~/.mozilla.old and see if restarting firefox recreates that folder with default setings and then whether that makes any difference, if not you could rename the folder back to the original name
[14:30] <new2linux> donald, i just type in (lspci) in the terminal
[14:30] <bod_> !readahead | sagieg
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about readahead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <donald_> new2linux. yes
[14:30] <oklopol> dgjones: i cannot ping the site, and i cannot access it with gftp
[14:30] <oklopol> you think that still might help?
[14:30] <bod_> !info readahead > sagieg      read the private message from ubotu please
[14:31] <new2linux> donald, what part are you looking for?
[14:31] <sagieg> thanks bod_
[14:31] <bod_> np
[14:31] <donald_> new2: anything wireless?
[14:31] <oklopol> s/thanks/thank for a pun
[14:32] <dgjones> oklopol, i thought your problem was just with firefox, if other apps can't get to it, that probably won't affect it then
[14:32] <bod_> Shinobi, you here?
[14:32] <new2linux> no
[14:32] <donald_> anything says networking?
[14:32] <new2linux> yes
[14:32] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - you've not got moblock installed?
[14:32] <donald_> new2: what?
[14:32] <donald_> network controller?
[14:32] <oklopol> never heard about that, and i'm the only user, so i'd say now
[14:32] <oklopol> *no
[14:33] <new2linux> im sorry read that wrong
[14:33] <oklopol> i don'
[14:33] <oklopol> eh
[14:33] <new2linux> no networking
[14:33] <oklopol> i don't really have any idea what might result in something like that
[14:33] <oklopol> *this
[14:33] <oklopol> it's just.. creepy
[14:34] <Leila> new2linux: when you start an post, type the first few letters of the person's name and then hit tab. that will put the name in the start of your post and it will have a color on their screen.
[14:34] <donald_> new2: dud card?
[14:34] <oklopol> cannot be about software, because no program connects, and cannot be about hardware, because the actual connection works
[14:34] <Leila> new2linux: have yu looked into ndiswrapper?
[14:34] <donald_> new2: eject the card. in terminal type "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then insert the card. what messages scroll by?
[14:34] <Wanderer> mv davidwong /w8
[14:35] <donald_> Leila: he needs to identify the card first
[14:35] <bod_> oklopol, dont shout,.,. you can access that site with the same ip from your vista ?
[14:35] <oklopol> this is why i thought it might be about operating system, although i don't see how it could be about that either
[14:35] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - have you tried connecting by ip address rather than by domain name?
[14:35] <oklopol> bod_: i don't have vista
[14:35] <Leila> donald_: true
[14:35] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: ping resolved the address
[14:35] <oklopol> also, i don't shout
[14:35] <bod_> oklopol, i swear you said you did,.,. have u got another os on that machine?
[14:35] <oklopol> no
[14:35] <riaal> OMG! I ben searching for hardware failure for like a mounts (my server dies every seventh day) Just felt the passiv cooling on my Radeon 800GTO and its burning hot! Nothing graphical is running at all! What does this mean? :S
[14:35] <oklopol> my friend had vista on his laptop
[14:35] <oklopol> don't think it's about that.
[14:35] <bod_> oklopol, so how do you no its not the ip?
[14:36] <donald_> riaal: spend more $$
[14:36] <oklopol> because he connected using my ip
[14:36] <dgjones> oklopol, just a thought to rule out a software problem, have you got a livecd you can boot up with and test it with?
[14:36] <bod_> oklopol, who?
[14:36] <oklopol> bod_: a guy called plopmania
[14:36] <riaal> donald_: a Radion 800GTO isn't good enough for a server that doest even run X?
[14:36] <bod_> oklopol, whats ur ip?
[14:36] <oklopol> the friend that did the testing
[14:37] <oklopol> you can see form the paste
[14:37] <donald_> riaal: looks for S3 PCI on ebay.. :P
[14:37] <oklopol> it's 194.251.103.33
[14:37] <oklopol> i think
[14:37] <new2linux> donald, a whole bunch scrolled by
[14:37] <bod_> oklopol, can you double check it,. go to     194.251.103.1     in firefox
[14:37] <donald_> new2: can u make anything out of the messages? card identification?
[14:37] <new2linux> donald, ethernet controller atheros  communications
[14:37] <donald_> aaaaah
[14:38] <niter3> Hi guys.. I've setup anacron. Is there a way I can tell certain scripts to have priority? So for instance one script will load and finish before another one loads???
[14:38] <oklopol> cannot establish a connection.
[14:38] <donald_> new2linux: ubuntu 7.10 installed?
[14:38] <bod_> oklopol, then thats not ur ip
[14:38] <new2linux> donald, yes xubuntu
[14:38] <bod_> oklopol,    ifconfig ,.,. pastebin it
[14:39] <LjL> what was the command to pipe back into the input file without messing it up?
[14:39] <donald_> new2: this atheros doesn't show up in lspci ?
[14:39] <Pici> LjL: for what command? sed has -i for in-place editing.
[14:39] <CraZy675> Anyone use AllTray?  I can't get it to work, it asks me to click on the window I want to use then doesn't let me click
[14:39] <oklopol> http://www.pastebin.ca/884647
[14:39] <new2linux> donald, i can try againhow do i gt back
[14:40] <donald_> just type lspci again with card inside
[14:40] <LjL> Pici: yes, like you use sed -i, but it worked for any command. you could do « cat file | sed blah | xxxx >file » (of course it makes no sense with sed since it has the -i option already, but just as an example)
[14:40] <erUSUL> LjL: tee ??
[14:40] <bod_> oklopol, ok ur right that is your ip,.,. but your browser seems to be blocking you out of your router
[14:40] <LjL> erUSUL: hm no not tee, tee doesn't cache input i think
[14:40] <thokle> Hey guys I have a problem with gnome-session, I can only start up i save session it happen after my xserver crashed
[14:40] <new2linux> donald, it doesnt say my name
[14:40] <new2linux> donald, it is still scrolling numbers and what not
[14:41] <oklopol> hmm...
[14:41] <Pici> LjL: I know what problem you're describing... let me think...
[14:41] <oklopol> the modem would probably give my friend another ip if he used my cable?
[14:41] <donald_> new2: what name? look for a full line that has Atheros in it. it will give some model no or such
[14:41] <bod_> oklopol, it will always give a different ip
[14:41] <oklopol> because i'm starting to feel may i did in fact not check whether it was the same :DDDDD
[14:41] <oklopol> which is kinda lame
[14:41] <bod_> oklopol, unless you hard code the ip
[14:41] <oklopol> because then it would be about my ip anyway :D
[14:41] <bod_> oklopol, il try ur ip,.,.hang on
[14:41] <new2linux> donald, anything i type doesnt respond
[14:42] <donald_> new2: is your mouse working?
[14:42] <oklopol> can i somehow tell the modem to try changin my ip?
[14:42] <oklopol> *changing
[14:42] <donald_> doesn't respond means what?
[14:42] <new2linux> donald, yes and what i type works also
[14:42] <bod_> oklopol, ok i can ping your ip
[14:42] <louish> Hi all.   How can I have ubuntu 7.10 email cron and log files to an external email account?
[14:43] <new2linux> donald, it doesnt say my name before i type anymore
[14:43] <Steve1> Good morning, all. I am unable to locate how to share a cd-rw drive in Ubuntu. Can anyone help me with this?
[14:43] <ZEETH> am i connected to Ubuntu IRC
[14:43] <egoleo> i reinstalled the gutsy again and is not booting again plse
[14:43] <bod_> oklopol, open network settings
[14:43] <bazhang> ZEETH: yes!
[14:43] <egoleo> someone help me now plse
[14:43] <bod_> !manners | egoleo
[14:43] <ubotu> egoleo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:43] <donald_> new2linux: why would it say your name before u type?
[14:43] <oklopol> i'm just thinking, the modem has prolly been giving this same ip to me all the time, i've just at some point confused the number in ifconfig and thought i had another ip.
[14:44] <oklopol> i'll open it, what then
[14:44] <Cedric_Diggory> I had a little power failure after which I am having two problems. 1: Internet not working 2: GDM takes much longer than usual to start
[14:44] <egoleo> i did say plse
[14:44] <loma> hi to all:can anyone help me to edit reader.conf?
[14:44] <egoleo> so what again
[14:44] <donald_> egoleo: u have some Acer rubbish. tough luck.
[14:44] <new2linux> it usually says in ym terminal rich@ubuntu: ~$
[14:44] <bod_> oklopol, the ip you told me is the correct ip,.,. the problem is,. you seem to have some sort of ip scan on ur site and ur browser doesnt like your ip
[14:44] <egoleo> yeah
[14:44] <new2linux> donald, it usually says in ym terminal rich@ubuntu: ~$
[14:44] <donald_> what does it say now?
[14:44] <CraZy675> I would like to keep thunderbird and firefox open in my tray.  How do I do this?
[14:44] <egoleo> instead of u to help me u just talk abt plse plse plse
[14:45] <egoleo> fuck u
[14:45] <bod_> !language
[14:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:45] <bazhang> stop it egoleo
[14:45] <donald_> my my
[14:45] <oklopol> bod_: you do realize i'm admitting i was probably wrong about saying my friend actually tried connecting from my ip?
[14:45] <egoleo> does polite solve it
[14:45] <oklopol> because...
[14:45] <egoleo> fuck u again
[14:45] <dgjones> !ops | egoleo
[14:45] <new2linux> donald, it is still running through numbers from that thing you told my to put in
[14:45] <ubotu> egoleo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[14:45] <donald_> ignore!
[14:45] <bod_> oklopol, absolutely,. but that doesnt solve urproblem
[14:45] <oklopol> wouldn't it just then be about chaning my ip?
[14:45] <bazhang> bye egoleo
[14:45] <louish> Hi all.   How can I have ubuntu 7.10 email cron and log files to an external email account?
[14:45] <new2linux> donald, it has nothing infront of what im typing
[14:45] <bod_> bazhang, nice
[14:46] <donald_> nothing at all??
[14:46] <Cedric_Diggory> instead of helping rude egoleo why dont you guys help me
[14:46] <Cedric_Diggory> I had a little power failure after which I am having two problems. 1: Internet not working 2: GDM takes much longer than usual to start
[14:46] <bod_> oklopol, if you cannot even acces your router,. ur pretty stuffed,.,. accessing that is our priority
[14:46] <Cedric_Diggory> My internet connection is working fine with windows partition but ubuntu wont detect my internet connection
[14:46] <oklopol> hmm
[14:46] <donald_> Cedirc: should be fine after filesystem fixes itself
[14:46] <new2linux> donald, it will type what im typing but no rich@ununtu
[14:46] <oklopol> is it now?
[14:46] <oklopol> i mean, why? :P
[14:46] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: what sort of connection? adsl?
[14:46] <oklopol> i don't need to connect to myself from firefox
[14:46] <donald_> new2: i rarely use XFCE
[14:46] <[dx]> jebem vam pitu :D
[14:47] <Cedric_Diggory> bazhang yes its adsl i guess
[14:47] <new2linux> donald should i exit out of terminal and come back?
[14:47] <donald_> no matter. maybe close this terminal and open another
[14:47] <Cedric_Diggory> donald_ how do I check filesystem
[14:47] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: this is ethernet?
[14:47] <Steve1> can soneone help me with sharing a cd drive?
[14:47] <bod_> oklopol, if you cant access your router then someone else probably can,. meaning they can have complete controll over your connection,. we need to make sure of the settings on the router
[14:47] <Cedric_Diggory> bazhang yes it is
[14:47] <donald_> Cedric: ubuntu normally checks itself
[14:47] <PriceChild> Cedric_Diggory, sudo touch /forcefsck
[14:47] <PriceChild> Cedric_Diggory, then reboot
[14:47] <Cedric_Diggory> donald_ but since i have rebooted thrice and the problem is not going away what would you suggest
[14:47] <oklopol> bod_: i can't access my router?
[14:48] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: you may need to reset the router first
[14:48] <Cedric_Diggory> bazhang how do I do that?
[14:48] <new2linux> donald, ok its back now what do i type?
[14:48] <bod_> oklopol, you access your router by typing your ipaddress into the url address changing the last nu,ber from 32 or whatever to 1
[14:48] <donald_> try to open have the terminal at full screen
[14:48] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: well I just always power off then on again--you could just pull the plug though ;]
[14:48] <donald_> then type lspci
[14:48] <donald_> locate the one line with Atheros
[14:48] <oklopol> oh i see
[14:49] <oklopol> now what do i do in network settings?
[14:49] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: the router that is not your computer
[14:49] <bod_> oklopol, double click on your wired network and tell me what you see
[14:49] <oklopol> automatic configuration
[14:49] <Cedric_Diggory> bazhang i know its a little modem that sits beside my computer and blinks
[14:49] <oklopol> nothing else
[14:49] <ZEETH> thanks
[14:49] <bod_> oklopol, theres a box in the top left corner,.,. is it ticked?
[14:49] <new2linux> donald, no atheos only 3 com
[14:49] <oklopol> ip address and others are empty
[14:50] <oklopol> no
[14:50] <bod_> oklopol, oh,. thats your problem
[14:50] <Cedric_Diggory> I will be back when I have tried the few tips given here
[14:50] <bod_> oklopol, tick it
[14:50] <oklopol> it is now
[14:50] <donald_> new2linux: strange.  u say it was an Atheros and plugged into PCMCIA?
[14:50] <bazhang> Cedric_Diggory: this is not dial up is it? either way that should do it--do you have a hub between the modem and your computer?
[14:50] <oklopol> umm
[14:50] <bod_> oklopol, now save the settings and try and access ur site
[14:50] <khussein> Does anyone know of an active java development IRC channel?
[14:50] <n_i_c_o> hi
[14:50] <oklopol> okay, lessee
[14:50] <n_i_c_o> hab ne frage und zwar: wenn ich pidgin öffnen will, kommt ca. eine halbe sekunde oben in der leiste dieses "pdigin-bild"...dann schließt sich pidgin
[14:50] <new2linux> donald, yes and it says ethernet controller 3com
[14:51] <bod_> !channels > khussein      plz read the private message from ubotu
[14:51] <louish> does anyone know where I can set the default email address for log files and cron output?
[14:51] <donald_> is your wifi card still in the slot?
[14:51] <bazhang> n_i_c_o: english please
[14:51] <new2linux> yes
[14:51] <oklopol> bod_: still times out :\
[14:51] <bod_> !german | n_i_c_o
[14:51] <ubotu> n_i_c_o: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:51] <bod_> oklopol, can you access your router?
[14:52] <n_i_c_o> hello, i have a question: when i want to start pidgin, it opnes for circa a half second - then it closed (sorry for my baaaaad english!)
[14:52] <oklopol> no
[14:52] <riaal> can I press F8 while booting up to start in a different runlevel?
[14:52] <donald_> new2: gosh.. ok. now try to see if you can find Restricted Drivers Manager somewhere in Settings
[14:52] <riaal> don't want x to start
[14:52] <zengen> Does anyone know why the volume slider on XMMS would control the volume for the whoe system?
[14:52] <bod_> oklopol, this is not good,.,. if you cant access that then we cant even get the info to manually config your network,.,. go and reset your router box
[14:52] <bazhang> n_i_c_o: can you try running it from the terminal and telling what if any error messages you get (but please dont paste here)
[14:53] <bod_> !pastebin | n_i_c_o
[14:53] <ubotu> n_i_c_o: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:53] <n_i_c_o> yes, i have done: the text is very short: "Segmentation fauld (core dumped)"
[14:53] <Yon> hey guys, if i have 2 connections, lets say connection a and connection b, if i want connection b to be idle do i set connections a's gateway by going sudo route add <connection A's IP> gateway <Connections A's IP> ?
[14:53] <bazhang> bod_: nice work spotting the bad ip ;]
[14:53] <oklopol> okay i'll go reset it... be back in a bit...
[14:53] <new2linux> donald , all it says in restricted is modem driver
[14:53] <SleepingSloth> oklopol
[14:54] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, can you try something before you go...
[14:54] <bod_> bazhang, thats the point,.,. its not,.,. it seems he has no connection with his router,.,. i dont think he's using his network,. i think he's on a next door neighbours
[14:54] <donald_> new2: maybe the card isn't really supported? would be best if could see all the messages in /var/log/messages when u plug the card in
[14:54] <bazhang> bod_: aha- that would explain a lot
[14:54] <bod_> SleepingSloth, can i ask what you were going to suggest
[14:55] <bod_> bazhang, yer,. i hate fixing networks,.,. there so confusing,.,. so many things can go wrong
[14:55] <oklopol> am i back?
[14:55] <bod_> yes
[14:55] <SleepingSloth> bod_ - well, before i do - i was away for a minute - what made you think there was a bad ip address?
[14:55] <oklopol> seems not.
[14:55] <new2linux> donald , is there a way to send you that log?
[14:55] <jmanuel_cool> please i need help with a nvidia gforce mx4000
[14:55] <jmanuel_cool> and ubuntu 64bits
[14:55] <bazhang> can not access router?
[14:55] <ryann> u tried the nvidia page
[14:56] <donald_> new2: i dunno. first time here
[14:56] <bod_> SleepingSloth, when he couldnt access his router,.,. but its not a bad ip
[14:56] <monitor> CELSO
[14:56] <oklopol> okay
[14:56] <oklopol> i rebooted it.
[14:56] <jmanuel_cool> ryanakca yes i try
[14:56] <delermando> oi
[14:56] <donald_> anyone tip us on the pastebin thing?
[14:56] <SleepingSloth> he's not on a cat d network..
[14:56] <delermando> tb
[14:56] <bod_> oklopol, and your using an ethernet cable yes?
[14:56] <jmanuel_cool> ryann yes i try
[14:56] <monitor> OI
[14:56] <SleepingSloth> i looked at the pastebin earlier, it was a cat c i think
[14:56] <oklopol> yes
[14:56] <ryann> try the add/remove
[14:56] <bod_> !pastebin | donald_
[14:56] <ubotu> donald_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:56] <jmanuel_cool> ryann ???
[14:57] <monitor> COMO VAI VC
[14:57] <monitor> TUDO BEM
[14:57] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, do me a favour and try this:
[14:57] <donald_> new2?
[14:57] <stephen-mason> my flash player doesnt work?
[14:57] <bod_> oklopol, im afraid it sound like a problem with your router,. im going to suggest you give them an angry phone call
[14:57] <monitor> BELEZA
[14:57] <monitor> COMO VAI VC
[14:57] <bod_> oklopol, listen to SleepingSloth first
[14:57] <ryann> jnanuel_cool, try add/remove
[14:57] <bazhang> monitor brasil?
[14:57] <bod_> !flashissues | stephen-mason
[14:57] <ubotu> stephen-mason: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:57] <SleepingSloth> sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf        then, add these lines at the end:   net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 16384 131072
[14:57] <oklopol> hmm... you can definitely connect there from *an* ip that modem gives out though, this time for sure
[14:58] <SleepingSloth> net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 87380 174760
[14:58] <delermando> tb
[14:58] <donald_> new2: got that ?
[14:58] <Yonie> hey guys, if i have 2 connections, say connection A and connection B, if they connected normally neither work, i just want connection A to work, i know i have to set something with the gateways, but i dont know what
[14:58] <delermando> jsdkçljfçld
[14:58] <oklopol> okay
[14:58] <oklopol> let's try
[14:58] <bod_> SleepingSloth, can u give me an explanation on what that does plz,.,. for my benefit
[14:58] <jmanuel_cool> ryann my graphic card is installed (i think) but the system says that i sohuld activate the restricted module for nvidia
[14:58] <bod_> SleepingSloth, new firefox version uses pv6
[14:58] <oklopol> would be interesting to hear that, indeed, although i'll put it in now whatever it is :-)
[14:58] <jmanuel_cool> i don't understand, if i installed that from nvidia page
[14:59] <spdf> jmanuel_cool, Ubuntu doesn't know that technically
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> oklopol... once you've added those two lines to the end of sysctl.conf, run this:  sudo sysctl -p
[14:59] <ryann> go to system then admin the restricted drivers and enable it b
[14:59] <igge> hello
[14:59] <SleepingSloth> ”øð¿ \ øne ße¢
[15:00] <jmanuel_cool> ryann i try this too, but when i do this the system restar X's and says me "low resolution" and use "vesa" driver
[15:00] <igge> I'm about to install windows to dual boot on my ubuntu box.. I have partitions ready and so.. but I suppose windows will take over the boot, how can I install the correct boot loader again after i've installed windows?
[15:00] <XiXaQ> !flash
[15:00] <stephen-mason> !flash
[15:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[15:00]  * jmanuel_cool sorry for my bad english, it's the worst
[15:00] <stephen-mason> flash doesnt work does it?
[15:00] <ryann> well its better than having vista
[15:00] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: i see those the sets of numbers
[15:00] <ryann> haha
[15:00] <dgjones> !grub > igge, (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:00] <ryann> emm
[15:00] <QuickGold> any word on when the Flash (from Adobe) plugin will work again?
[15:00] <ryann> try
[15:01] <donald_> igge: best way is using the rescue mode of the alternate CD
[15:01] <jmanuel_cool> i shoulk install "nvidia legacy too?
[15:01] <ryann> no
[15:01] <ryann> try the new drivers
[15:01] <donald_> abt the Flashplugin-nonfree, there is a workaround
[15:01] <sarmisak> QuickGold: just download it, untar and run ./install_flash_player ;)
[15:01] <sarmisak> better than waiting
[15:01] <spdf> !FlashIssues | QuickGold
[15:01] <ubotu> QuickGold: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:01] <Yonie> hello?
[15:01] <ryann> if you install 2 drivers they will crash your pc
[15:01] <igge> donald_: hm ok.. does it have to be the alternative cd? i only have the standard one here.
[15:01] <jmanuel_cool> add + remove says that "new drivers" are installed
[15:01] <ntemis> hello
[15:01] <bod_> Yonie, hi
[15:01] <spdf> QuickGold, There's a link for a package on that forum post
[15:01] <ryann> change the screen res
[15:02] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: now may i ask what those lines were?
[15:02] <donald_> igge: standard one has no Rescue mode..
[15:02] <jmanuel_cool> i don't understand
[15:02] <jmanuel_cool> my pc it's so crazy
[15:02] <QuickGold> thanks
[15:02] <Yonie> bod_, hey, did you get my last msg?
[15:02] <ntemis> when i play a game in fuulscreen i can see the desktop
[15:02] <igge> ok
[15:02] <oklopol> still cannot connect, not the page, not the modem
[15:02] <ntemis> the desktop is transparent
[15:02] <novato_br> saindo / going out
[15:02] <jmanuel_cool> the problen begun when i change mi hard disk
[15:02] <bod_> Yonie, no sorry
[15:02] <donald_> actually i would recomment doing ./install that way
[15:02] <ntemis> how i can fix that?
[15:02] <igge> dgjones: no message from ubotu :(
[15:02] <jmanuel_cool> i din't reinstall, only clone partition
[15:03] <ntemis> have problems with games
[15:03] <dgjones> !grub | igge (I'll try again then)
[15:03] <ubotu> igge (I'll try again then): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:03] <Yonie> bod_, ok, ill copy paste it, i was wondering why no one replied
[15:03] <jmanuel_cool> all work, but nvidia don't
[15:03] <Yonie> hey guys, if i have 2 connections, say connection A and connection B, if they connected normally neither work, i just want connection A to work, i know i have to set something with the gateways, but i dont know what
[15:03]  * DieHardBios tips hat
[15:03] <ntemis> when i play a game in fullscreen i can see the desktop
[15:03] <bod_> oklopol, in ur network settings after you ticked the box,.,. the input sections greyed out ,. yes?
[15:03] <oklopol> yeah
[15:03] <DieHardBios> can i use Tor on  7:10
[15:03] <igge> dgjones: ah thanks
[15:03] <ntemis> nvidia 7600 gutsy 169.09 drivers
[15:03] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  oklopol - tcp window scaling...  when you ran the last command, did those two lines appear as cli output?
[15:03] <jmanuel_cool> i'm using ubuntu 64bits
[15:03] <oklopol> yes
[15:03] <maol> hi to all how get info from vendor id and device id that which device driver is require for that device?
[15:04] <bod_> Yonie, why dont you remove connection b?
[15:04] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - but still no joy?
[15:04] <oklopol> no joy
[15:04] <donald_> new2linux is gone?
[15:04] <bod_> oklopol, but is the ip addi still showing? but greyed out?
[15:04] <oklopol> no the page, not the modem
[15:04] <Tygir> does anyone download thru usenet?
[15:04] <Yonie> bod_, i need it for something else
[15:04] <spdf> Tygir, I do
[15:04] <_ruben> Tygir: i do
[15:04] <maol> donald_:how get info from vendor id and device id that which device driver is require for that device?
[15:04] <bod_> oklopol, please use our names in your ost, so we can see hu ur talking to
[15:04] <jmanuel_cool> in my (how say "anterior")
[15:05] <Yonie> bod_, i can force another program to use that connection
[15:05] <bod_> Yonie, so are you saying that you cannot connect if both connections are connected?
[15:05] <spdf> Tygir, I use GrabIt + Wine, if that's what your next question is
[15:05] <Tygir> spdf: well hello again! did you ever leave?
[15:05] <Tygir> what prog do you use to download thru it?
[15:05] <oklopol> bod_ SleepingSloth: sorry, not, used to big channels, anyway, the ip address field is empty
[15:05] <spdf> Tygir, lol, hardly ever.
[15:05] <donald_> maol: stil trying to get the fingerscanner working huh?
[15:05] <dgjones> Tygir, I use "Pan" to read & browse newsgroups, its similar to forte agent
[15:05] <jmanuel_cool> in my last installation i was install nvidia with ENVY and work
[15:05] <oklopol> bod_ SleepingSloth: it was before, too
[15:05] <_ruben> Tygir: hellanzb .. its a very sweet python script
[15:05] <Yonie> bod_, yes, if they both connected then i have no internet access
[15:05] <jmanuel_cool> but when i change my hard disk don'r work anymor
[15:05] <ntemis> when i play a game in fullscreen my desktop is transparent behind the game
[15:05] <trontonic> Hi, sometimes I start programs from the terminal, press ctrl+z and type "bg" to make them run in the background. How can I let the program keep running, but remove the process from belonging to the terminal?
[15:06] <bod_> oklopol, ok,.,. so the router is giving you an ip,,. hhmm,.,. lemme have a think
[15:06] <Tygir> _ruben: yeah thats what i just installed...but which gui do you use for it?
[15:06] <_ruben> Tygir: together with zussaweb (webfrontend) and hellafox (firefox plugin)
[15:06] <jmanuel_cool> ryann ¿are you there?
[15:06] <maol> danald_:yes
[15:06] <ryann> any 1 play dota
[15:06] <jmanuel_cool> please, someone that can help me
[15:06] <Yonie> bod_, in windows i can just set a default gatewaym which would be connection A's gateway
[15:06] <ryann> i can run it on ubuntu
[15:06] <bod_> Yonie,  click on the icon of two computers in the top right of your screen,. the network settings,. either left click or right cant remember which will let you select 1 of 2 connections
[15:06] <donald_> maol: u need to find a module to load for the scanner. or else sorry
[15:06] <riaal> How can I make X not start when booting up normaly?
[15:06] <oklopol> i need to leave soon, though :\
[15:07]  * jmanuel_cool don't understand well english, he is from Venezuela
[15:07] <donald_> jamanuel: what is it?
[15:07] <Tygir> _reben: can you download thru zussaweb?
[15:07] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ i have troubles with my nvidia gforce
[15:07] <ajricoveri> how can i set boot logo on framebuffer the easy way?? do i have to really recompile the kernel ???
[15:07] <ryann> is it 6200
[15:07] <donald_> jmanuel: define trouble
[15:07] <bod_> oklopol, so here we go,.,,.,. You have a router connected via ethernet cable,. accept you seem to be given an incorrect ip,. because youcannot connect to the router,. accept the ip works because you can browse the web,. hhhmmm
[15:08] <_ruben> Tygir: if you have an account on newsbin.com then you can download by nzbid .. it also offers an nzb upload function
[15:08] <Yonie> bod_,  the one connection is through a USB modem, the other is through my NIC
[15:08] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ don't work, i hanven't 3d
[15:08] <oklopol> bod_: is there a way to ask the modem to give me another ip? i know it can give other ip's out
[15:08] <oklopol> hmm
[15:08] <_ruben> Tygir: make that newzbin.com
[15:08] <bod_> Yonie, sorry i dont no how to set gateways
[15:08] <mikebeecham> hi...would anyone happen to have a solution to this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682650
[15:08] <Tygir> _ruben: no im on newshosting.com
[15:08] <donald_> jmanuel: does Restricted Drivers Manager detect your card?
[15:08] <trontonic> ajricoveri: there's a program called "startupmanager" that will let you change the look of grub and the splash. If you want a logo (like a little penguin) I think you need to recompile the kernel, yes. I'm 80% sure of this.
[15:08] <ntemis> when i play a game in fullscreen my desktop is transparent
[15:08] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ yes
[15:08] <ntemis> please help  me
[15:08] <aoupi> what arguments would I give to wget to make it download all mp3 files on a page?
[15:08] <bod_> oklopol, yer,. if u use a different machine or os,. or if you could get to the router settings, which you cant
[15:08] <donald_> then tick to enable the driver. reboot
[15:08] <maol> donald_:already i have installed module for that fx2000.ko working fine but i want to learn how to get device info as well if driver is not present in system then what steps to follow
[15:09] <ntemis> 7600 latest nvidia driver
[15:09] <oklopol> bod_: so i should be able to connect to the router with firefox? what should it say?
[15:09] <_ruben> Tygir: i mainly use the hellafox plugin to initiate downloads .. or when ssh'ed in remotely, i just download the nzb to the queue dir
[15:09] <bod_> oklopol, it should take you to a login page where you eter a password then you can change loadsa settings ,. encryption   mac filtering  etc
[15:09] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ i try that, but when i do this te system restar X's and says me "the system is working on low resolution mode" and no work graphic card
[15:09] <_ruben> Tygir: but zussaweb should cover it all as well
[15:09] <maol> donald_:i mean from vendor id and device id or any other data is usefull to search driver for unknown device?
[15:10] <bod_> oklopol, are you male?
[15:10] <Tygir> _ruben: ahhh ok...i think i see what you mean now
[15:10] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  i think oklopol meant    dhclient -r
[15:10] <_ruben> Tygir: hellanzb also has its own web interface i think .. hellahella or smth
[15:10] <oklopol> bod_: have i said it's a router? i just know it's an ethernet modem of some srt.
[15:10] <oklopol> *sort
[15:10] <oklopol> you, i'm male
[15:10] <oklopol> *yes
[15:10] <oklopol> lol
[15:10] <donald_> maol: finger scanners are not simple to set up. i have mine working but it wasnt easy. i dont understand yr problem. if u have module loaded, you still need software
[15:10] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - when you pastebinned earlier, what was the address?
[15:10] <bod_> oklopol, so i assume you dont have the instruction manual?
[15:11] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: what address? my ip is 194.251.103.33
[15:11] <bod_> SleepingSloth, 194.251.103.33
[15:11] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ the trouble begun when i move mi ubuntu installation onto a new hard disk
[15:11] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - address on pastebin, not your address
[15:11] <donald_> jamuel: move?
[15:11] <oklopol> i don't have the instruction manual, my father set up the connection.
[15:11] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - i'll be scrolling up for a week to find it
[15:11] <bod_> SleepingSloth, the one i posted is from the pastebin
[15:11] <ntemis> when i play a game in fullscreen my desktop is transparent how can i remove this?
[15:12] <bod_> SleepingSloth, #
[15:12] <bod_>           inet addr:194.251.103.33  Bcast:194.251.103.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
[15:12] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: i'd have to scroll too, but wait, i'll do that
[15:12] <oklopol> oh
[15:12] <oklopol> i won't
[15:12] <donald_> oklopol: your dad is LOCKING u out
[15:12] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ i clone my partitions from a 80Gb's hard disk to a 160Gb's hard disk
[15:12] <oklopol> oh, i will
[15:12] <oklopol> :D
[15:12] <Steve1> I need to share a dvd-rw drive on Ubuntu but can't locate a way to shre it. Help!!!
[15:12] <bod_> donald_, how do you know that?
[15:12] <donald_> jmanuel. try a clean install
[15:12] <donald_> bod_ guessing
[15:12] <maol> donald_:now mine is also working fine with FxReset utility..but i want to know how to find which device driver is require for unknown device?
[15:12] <TIRC_6282> ciao
[15:13] <bod_> donald_, lol,.,. he said he's the only one there
[15:13] <oklopol> umm... konversation sucks so bad i cannot really copy the address :D
[15:13] <TIRC_6282> !list
[15:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:13] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ i did that because my system its like i need, clean install requires reinstall all packages again
[15:13] <bod_> oklopol, are you the network administartor for your home network?
[15:13] <donald_> maol: sorry. cant help you more. absolutely unsure what u are doing
[15:13] <jmanuel_cool> my connection its no the best
[15:13] <ntemis> when i play a game in fullscreen my desktop is transparent how can i remove this?
[15:13] <oklopol> bod_: dunno.
[15:13] <oklopol> prolly not
[15:13] <bod_> oklopol, who is paying for the internet?
[15:14] <travisat_> if you dunno you aren't
[15:14] <donald_> jmanuel: something is not right with the cloning
[15:14] <louish> does anyone know where I can set the default email address for log files and cron output?
[15:14] <oklopol> not me.
[15:14] <oklopol> i live with my parents: they
[15:14] <bod_> oklopol, so its prob ur dad?
[15:14] <jatt> louish: MAILTO environment variable
[15:14] <oklopol> prob.
[15:14] <bod_> oklopol, does he have computer experience?
[15:14] <oklopol> somewhat.
[15:14] <oklopol> scared of ubuntu
[15:14] <jmanuel_cool> donald_ i see, but the only trouble it's with nvidia, el resto (sorry, but i don't know how say that) work well
[15:15] <jmanuel_cool> include GRUB
[15:15] <bod_> oklopol, so he would know how to block your internet to a certain site?
[15:15] <oklopol> yes
[15:15] <oklopol> errr
[15:15] <oklopol> actually, not sure he does
[15:15] <travisat> thats simple, its in the router settings
[15:15] <oklopol> but i do know he hasn't done that
[15:15] <Tygir> spdf: I gotta go with you, i like pan, its simple and it gets the job done
[15:15] <donald_> oklopol: where are u trying to go to eh?
[15:15] <oklopol> for one, i was alone when it stopped working
[15:15] <Tygir> spdf: thanks again for all of your help last night, i really do appreciate that
[15:15] <bod_> oklopol, id talk to him,.,. looks like someone has set some sites to be forbiden,.,. but that doesnt explain why you cant connect to the router,.,. is there another machine in the house?
[15:15] <Tygir> spdf: man you really dont sleep do you?
[15:16] <spdf> Tygir, lol
[15:16] <Yonie> bod_, do u know anything about routing connections?
[15:16] <spdf> Tygir, I worked last night, and I won't sleep for another couple of hours
[15:16] <oklopol> just one site forbidden, and he does not know about it.
[15:16] <balbir_> need some calander utility for gnome
[15:16] <donald_> jmanuel: CTRL-ALT-F1, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:16] <new2linux> donald, sorry was reading up on wifi document onliene
[15:16] <bod_> Yonie, routing them ,. no,.,. fixing networks,. a wee bit
[15:16] <maol> donald_:i want to learn how to find what driver is needed for any undetected device
[15:16] <oklopol> also, porn is not forbidden, that can't be it, really.
[15:16] <jmanuel_cool> thank's donald_ i'll try this
[15:16] <travisat> balbir_: what type of calendar program
[15:16] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  oklopol - what address have you been trying for the router?
[15:16] <jmanuel_cool> ok, thank's for your trys, i go; but because my english it's the worst and can't understand
[15:16] <bod_> oklopol, is there another machine in the house?
[15:16] <Tygir> spdf: so you were working while helping me?
[15:16] <oklopol> yes
[15:16] <oklopol> a few
[15:17] <louish> jatt: where can I find that? profiles?
[15:17] <bod_> SleepingSloth, his ip, replacing the last nu,ber with 1
[15:17]  * jmanuel_cool by good luck everyone
[15:17] <oklopol> you can connect from the other ip
[15:17] <oklopol> 's the modem give s out
[15:17] <cwgannon> hello
[15:17] <oklopol> *gives
[15:17] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  I dont think he's on cat d
[15:17] <donald_> maol: use vendor IDs and device ID. for usb, lsusb will show you
[15:17] <balbir_> travisat: I need to arrage my day to day time so that it will give some sort of alarm for the disignated work
[15:17] <ferric84> I copied a directory from my local machine to a SMB server.  When i SSH into that server, I cannot see the folder at all, presumably because I don't have the right permissions.  What permissions/ownership do I need to set so I can see the folder?
[15:17] <Yonie> bod_, i want to route a connection to an ip, i know it exactly in windows, just dono who to do it in Ubuntu
[15:17] <spdf> Tygir, Well, "work" is a relative term. I did maybe 1.5hrs of actual work while I was there
[15:17] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  oklopol try 194.251.100.1
[15:17] <balbir_> i think calander can have this sort of functionality
[15:17] <bod_> Yonie,  im a newbie,.,. not the person to ask,. sorry
[15:17] <travisat> balbir_: ah well you can look at evolution and sunbird, I don't know if they will do what you want though
[15:17] <oklopol> 100?
[15:18] <oklopol> i'll try
[15:18] <new2linux> donald, sorry was reading up on wifi documents online
[15:18] <Tygir> spdf: and then you just sit on IRC and help people out, while your supposed to be working?!
[15:18] <sarmisak> Yonie: what do you mean by 'route'
[15:18] <cwgannon> i have ubuntu 7.10 x86 installed, but i want to switch to 7.10 x64; how should i go about this?  (my home directory is in its own partition)
[15:18] <Tygir> spdf: what a nice guy who pretends to work!
[15:18] <bod_> SleepingSloth, but thats not a paarent of his ip?
[15:18] <donald_> new2: ok
[15:18] <sarmisak> cwgannon: fresh install would be better
[15:18] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: it won't connect to that either
[15:18] <travisat> cwgannon: install using the alternate install cd, at the partition setup you can designate your existing home as the new home
[15:18] <spdf> Tygir, I get my daily duties done, the night is mine to do whatever I want really :D
[15:19] <bod_> oklopol, well that was obvious
[15:19] <bod_> lol
[15:19] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: i don't think you can connect to that thing
[15:19] <donald_> bye all.. Be back later
[15:19] <bod_> oklopol, do you have broadband?
[15:19] <Yonie> sarmisak, i want to route my connection to a server, i know windows it would just be: route add <Ip of connection> <ip of server>
[15:19] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: yes
[15:19] <Tygir> spdf: well isnt that nice!
[15:19] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: i think :)
[15:19] <cwgannon> sarmisak: so i'll just have to reinstall all the programs i've installed, and my settings will be taken from my home directory
[15:19] <riaal> how  can I do a software update from the terminal?
[15:19] <SleepingSloth> oklopol, what do you get if you type 'route' into terminal?
[15:19] <dgjones> oklopol, is it a broadband/adsl router?
[15:19] <bod_> oklopol, go and look at the router,. and tell me what company made it
[15:19] <travisat> cwgannon: you don't have to loose your home directory, but you will have to reinstall the programs
[15:20] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: i have no idea what it is.
[15:20] <travisat> cwgannon: I just did what you are talking about yesterday
[15:20] <cwgannon> travisat: does the live cd have the same functionality as the alternate, to designate my existing home directory as such?
[15:20] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: i don't think the problem is there, i can use internet normally...
[15:20] <bod_> oklopol, no idea what what is?
[15:20] <travisat> cwgannon: I don't know but the live has been reported as having problems
[15:20] <sarmisak> cwgannon: it has, and it's better
[15:20] <spdf> Tygir, Life's good lol
[15:20] <bod_> oklopol, is there another computer in the house?
[15:20] <Yonie> sarmisak, its routing the connection to a proxy
[15:20] <cwgannon> haha, not sure who's advice to take
[15:20] <sarmisak> cwgannon: and he is right, i couldn't install from a live cd either
[15:20] <cwgannon> *whose
[15:21] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: a few other computers
[15:21] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: bod_: not one now, i think
[15:21] <SleepingSloth> oklopol -
[15:21] <oklopol> *on
[15:21] <bod_> oklopol, can you use any of them?
[15:21] <cwgannon> ok, i'll download the alternate install then
[15:21] <oklopol> sure
[15:21] <SleepingSloth> oklopol,  what is output of route?
[15:21] <bod_> oklopol, are they linux or windows?
[15:21] <cwgannon> thank you both for saving me a headache
[15:21] <sarmisak> cwgannon: before you start, take a snapshot of the installed packages
[15:21] <new2linux> Can anyone help me connect my pcmcia wlan card to work
[15:21] <oklopol> http://www.pastebin.ca/884700
[15:21] <oklopol> bod_: win
[15:21] <travisat> cwgannon: also I had problems with grub installing, after I installed it I had to use the cd again to do a repair machine and reinstall grub
[15:21] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: that
[15:21] <bod_> oklopol, cool,,.,. thats my territory
[15:22] <Tygir> spdf: i guess so...hey another question since i have you here...you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[15:22] <cwgannon> sarmisak and travisat: thanks again
[15:22] <oklopol> eh... i really don't think the modem is the problem... :\
[15:22] <oklopol> i just think it doesn't have an interface
[15:22] <travisat> cwgannon: good luck
[15:22] <cwgannon> thank you
[15:22] <bod_> oklopol, what did you type to get that output?
[15:22] <spdf> Tygir, Ubuntu, I'm a fan of gnome
[15:22] <riaal> is it impossible to access the update manager form the termianl?
[15:22] <riaal> how can I do a system update with out X
[15:22] <riaal> ?
[15:22] <travisat> riaal: no
[15:22] <oklopol> bod_: route
[15:22] <travisat> riaal: apt-get or aptitude
[15:22] <sarmisak> cwgannon: hold on for a sec
[15:22] <SleepingSloth> oklopol - okay, according to this, your gateway is 194.251.100.1
[15:23] <sarmisak> phoe
[15:23] <Tygir> spdf: how can i change the look around of the desktop...like colors of titles bars, etc...i guess you could say themes
[15:23] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: k
[15:23] <Tygir> spdf: you use compiz-fusion?
[15:23] <oklopol> SleepingSloth: does that help?
[15:23] <travisat> riaal: or I mean yes you can do and update without x
[15:23] <riaal> travisat: how? sudo apt-get update wont update the system, just the source list?
[15:23] <new2linux> Can anyone help with connecting  wlan card?
[15:23] <cwgannon> sarmisak: will do
[15:23] <bod_> oklopol, do this for me,.,. ifconfig && route       paste the whole output,. including the lines you typed the command
[15:23] <travisat> riaal: sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:23] <spdf> Tygir, Yep, I'm using emerald as my metacity replacement
[15:23] <travisat> riaal: after the update
[15:23] <riaal> travisat: cheers
[15:23] <oklopol> i need to leave in a few minutes, is there a command that asks the router to change my ip?
[15:23] <bod_> SleepingSloth, are you seeing two different types of data from his outputs?
[15:23] <oklopol> bod_: i've pasted both
[15:23] <oklopol> they haven't changed
[15:24] <bod_> oklopol, no i need them next to eachother
[15:24] <oklopol> k
[15:24] <stephen-mason> anyone got a quick solution to the flash problem for me?
[15:24] <bod_> oklopol, no there not
[15:24] <bod_> stephen-mason, yes,. please read the pastebins people send you
[15:24] <oklopol> wait
[15:24] <Tygir> spdf: how can i got about doing that? synaptic?
[15:24] <bod_> !flashissues | stephen-mason
[15:24] <ubotu> stephen-mason: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:24] <spdf> Tygir, yep
[15:24] <oklopol> http://www.pastebin.ca/884708
[15:25] <oklopol> bod_: SleepingSloth: both outputs
[15:25] <oklopol> straight from the terminal
[15:25] <spdf> Tygir, Its in universe
[15:25] <Tygir> spdf: isnt compiz pre-installed in ubuntu?
[15:25] <amitprakash> how do i install man entries for exec and other c++ manual
[15:25] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  see what i mean about category now?
[15:25] <bod_> oklopol, cheers
[15:25] <sarmisak> cwgannon: try this dpkg -l | awk ‘{print $2}’ | sed ‘1,5d’ | tr ‘\n’ ‘,’ | sed ’s/,$/\n/’
[15:26] <spdf> Tygir, Yes, effects aren't enabled by default though
[15:26] <bod_> SleepingSloth, not really ,.,. im just reall yconfused why he cant access the router
[15:26] <sarmisak> it will give you the whole packages installed
[15:26] <bod_> SleepingSloth, what do you mean by category
[15:26] <Tygir> spdf: how do i go about doing that?
[15:26] <SleepingSloth> bod_, i mean network category.
[15:26] <spdf> Tygir, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[15:26] <bod_> SleepingSloth, keep going with the explaining,.,.lol
[15:26] <stephen-mason> StephenMason, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:   	Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? 	If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.  wtf?
[15:26] <oklopol> you really think the problem i'm not able to connect to *one certain* site from this ip is because my router has a problem? i know i was wrong before, but that sounds a bit weird imo
[15:27] <oklopol> isn't there a way to change my ip?
[15:27] <SleepingSloth> bod_, notice the mask isn't 255.255.255.0, it's 255.255.252.0
[15:27] <oklopol> i know we have at least 3 different ip
[15:27] <spdf> Tygir, You can also change your colours and such there (metacity, gtk, background, etc)
[15:27] <oklopol> 's
[15:27] <bod_> stephen-mason,  thankyou we no what acronyms are
[15:27] <oklopol> and that at least one other owkrs.
[15:27] <oklopol> *works
[15:27] <doctorow> I'm having some problems with my rsync syntax. I run rsync to backup my whole disk to another volume, mounted at /backup. The problem is that rsync sees ALL the files as changed, no matter what, and re-writes them every time I run the script, which makes it take a long, long time to run my backup. Here's my backup script: sudo /usr/bin/rsync -av --delete-during --progress --force --exclude='/backup*' --exclude='*proc*' -
[15:27] <Yonie> does anyone know the command to route a connection?
[15:27] <stephen-mason> bod: point?
[15:27] <oklopol> i need to leave now, i'll come back to this in a few hours, if you're still here
[15:28] <oklopol> cya ->
[15:28] <bod_> SleepingSloth, yer,. mines the first 1 ,.,. so the 252 bit is a problem? ,.,. we can only change that by accessing his router ,. no?
[15:28] <bod_> oklopol, bye
[15:28] <maol> donald_:what is relation between Vendor ID and Device ID with particular Driver?
[15:28] <SleepingSloth> oklopol bod_ this probem seems way too specific to be a network config problem, but what i was getting at is that replacing the last octet of his ip address with a 1 isnt going to find his router
[15:28] <bod_> stephen-mason, this channel is family friendly plz do not use acronyms related to inapropriate words
[15:28] <Tygir> spdf: I click on extra visual effects in that pane and it wont let me, says "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[15:29] <spdf> Tygir, What kind of graphics card do you have?
[15:29] <stephen-mason> i ment what the flip, its your mind that filled in the rest not my intent
[15:30] <bod_> SleepingSloth, as i understand it,. a router is assgned an address,.,. say 192.168.2  then a .1 is put infornt of it making it 192.168.2.1   each connection made with this router has the same ip except for the last number which is different , but all the ohter numbers must correspond to the route
[15:30] <Tygir> spdf: umm...Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100...so i wont be able to do it will i?
[15:30] <stephen-mason> why cant i download that thing?
[15:30] <bod_> stephen-mason, just ask your questions and keep it polite please
[15:30] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  it depends what category network it is on. but the router, even on cat d, could be on any address... 1, 2, 124...
[15:30] <bod_> stephen-mason, because you are not logged in to ubuntu forums
[15:31] <stephen-mason> but i did log in? :S
[15:31] <bod_> SleepingSloth, are you sure,. i swear its not,. or at least its not by default
[15:31] <stephen-mason> Welcome, StephenMason.
[15:31] <stephen-mason> 			You last visited: 3 Days Ago at 02:14 AM 			
[15:31] <stephen-mason> Private Messages: Unread 0, Total 0. says so there
[15:31] <Szeraax> hey, trouble with kde4 and working... It ways that 'genkdmconf-kde4' not found, anyone else seen this?
[15:32] <bod_> Szeraax, so install it,.,.?
[15:32] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  it depends on the router
[15:32] <Szeraax> bod_: its a file
[15:32] <spdf> Tygir, Hmm, I believe you need to install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:32] <bod_> Szeraax, try asking in #kubuntu
[15:33] <Szeraax> and it talks about that find in the /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 script
[15:33] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  and you can usually configure it to be wherever
[15:33] <Szeraax> bod_: oh, duh
[15:33] <bod_> SleepingSloth, 1 sec emme try something
[15:33] <stephen-mason> can someone send me that flash fix file cause it wont let me log in?
[15:34] <Tygir> spdF: where shall i find that?
[15:34] <ubuntunut> Is dbus a standard daemon? Or are there people that tend to not use it for one reason or another.
[15:34] <S> Has anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu or any other flavor of linux on a Compaq V3000 model laptop? Please dont link me to som eother page
[15:34] <Boglizk> FLAC sounds odd (sparkly) in Audacious. Any ideas?
[15:34] <spdf> Tygir, http://okoye.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/configuring-ubuntu-gutsy-with-thinkfinger-fingerprint-reader-intel4965-card-and-intel-x3100-running-compiz-fusion-working/
[15:35] <bod_> SleepingSloth, i just thought of something,.,. if you use something i think is called nmap you can check what ip's are being used
[15:35] <spdf> Tygir, Check there, there's some instructions for getting that particular card working with compiz (and the problems that may occur)
[15:35] <amitprakash> how do i install man entries for exec and other c++ manual
[15:35] <Saikumar> hi...how do i install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 7.10???
[15:35] <Yonie> are my msgs coming through here?
[15:35] <spdf> Tygir, Just a small bug that's easily corrected
[15:35] <Boglizk> Saikumar: In the menu
[15:35] <bod_> Saikumar, System-->admin-->restricted drivers manager
[15:36] <Tygir> spdf: thanks man for the link, i already have the xserver-xorg-intel
[15:36] <stephen-mason> it wont let me download the flash fix file?
[15:36] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  i dont think there is a general networking problem - he can access every website bar one - i think it's much more liekly to be bug 59331, or something similar
[15:36] <bod_> !patience | stephen-mason
[15:36] <ubotu> stephen-mason: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:36] <spdf> Tygir, Ahh, try running compiz from a terminal
[15:37] <Tygir> spdf: how?
[15:37] <Saikumar> yaa..., System-->admin-->restricted drivers manager.i know this....but i have downloaded form nvidia.com...how do i install this files???
[15:37] <spdf> Tygir, open up a terminal and run 'compiz' (no quotes)
[15:37] <bod_> SleepingSloth, true,.,. i was stumped by the no router on .1 though,.,. maybe i deliberately not be here in a couple of hours when he's back
[15:37] <SleepingSloth> bod_,  heh
[15:37] <bod_> ;0
[15:38] <donald_> saikumar: stick to ubuntu .debs as they're easier to uninstall/upgrade
[15:38] <Boglizk> Saikumar: Just do it with the Restricted Drivers Manager. If you do it manually, you have to shut down X first and then compile/make it.
[15:38] <bod_> ;) was the one i meant
[15:38] <S> Which Distro supports Compz the best?
[15:38] <pewpewpew> that's an odd question
[15:38] <bod_> yer
[15:38] <pewpewpew> I don't think you can put it like this
[15:38] <S> :\
[15:39] <pewpewpew> But if your sole reason for linux is to have compiz, you are good with ubuntu
[15:39] <Pici> S: Better to ask in #compiz-fusion. You're not going to get a non biased answer in #ubuntu.
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Saikumar: What is wrong with the ubuntu drivers for your nvidia
[15:39] <bod_> oops,.,. dont typer S then press tab 5 times
[15:39] <S> Thanks mate
[15:39] <S> Oh my fuck
[15:39] <bod_> !language
[15:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:40] <S> I typed S and hit tab 5 times
[15:40] <bod_> i told you dont
[15:40] <S> :p
[15:40] <bod_> ;)
[15:40] <S> All it does is list names
[15:40] <Tygir> spdf: awesome it worked! wahoo! man your good huh?!
[15:40] <bod_> S, i no
[15:40] <Tygir> spdf: can i hire you as my personal linux trainer?
[15:40] <spdf> Tygir, You did the skip checks thing?
[15:40] <spdf> Tygir, lol, Hire? I do it for free in here..
[15:40] <Tygir> spdf: yeah i did the skip_checks=yes
[15:40] <Kibbles> where is the host file placed by default?
[15:40] <bod_> yer Tygir he's under gnu license
[15:41] <spdf> Tygir, Cool, check that bug report to find out what kind of media issues you may have
[15:41] <Tygir> spdf: haha...i just wish i knew a fraction of what you know....another question...why wouldnt i be seeing any themes in the emerald theme manager window?
[15:42] <Saikumar> donald:yaa....i installed the .debs ..but ..when i restarted...got a message that my moniter was not detected properly!!!
[15:42] <bod_> Tygir,  you have to download them
[15:42] <zionpsyfer> Kibbles: /etc/hosts
[15:42] <mikebeecham> can nayone help with this problem I am having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682650
[15:42] <spdf> Tygir, There's a little message at the bottom of the repositories tab that says to run the svn command in terminal
[15:42] <Kibbles> thanks zionpsyfer
[15:42] <spdf> Tygir, Do that.
[15:42] <zionpsyfer> np Kibbles
[15:42] <spdf> Tygir, Then you can fetch the non gpl'd
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: Please provide a description of the issue.  Posting blind links is something to avoid
[15:43] <Tygir> spdf: haha ok...another question...when i closed the terminal where i typed in "compiz
[15:43] <spdf> Tygir, svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[15:43] <spdf> Tygir, Enable it from the Appearance menu now
[15:43] <Tygir> spdf: woops, it did the thing were the titlebars goes missing
[15:43] <mikebeecham> Jack_Sparrow, it's a tad complicated, but I'll try....
[15:43] <mavi-> Tygir: add a & at the end to send the command to the background, then it wont quit it when you close the terminal
[15:44] <donald_> Tygir: get the themes first and try compiz again
[15:44] <Kibbles> zionpsyfer: thanks again - but that file can't be it. connected to SSH server and it told me that it added the hostname to a host file - which would it be referring to?
[15:44] <bod_> mikebeecham, thats quite a handfull ur trying to do there,. i dunno what an XBMC is though
[15:44] <Tygir> mavi- what do you mean?
[15:44] <mikebeecham> bod_, it's the xbox media center
[15:44] <donald_> Kibbles: that would be known_hosts file
[15:44] <spdf> Tygir, Just go into System -> Preferences -> Appearance, and enable the effects in there
[15:44] <spdf> Tygir, That'll restart compiz
[15:44] <bod_> mikebeecham, so you want to send a microsft format to linix and vice versa?
[15:44] <donald_> in ~/.ssh
[15:44] <spdf> Tygir, and from a terminal do "emerald &"
[15:45] <mikebeecham> bod_, if thats the description, then yes!
[15:45] <mavi-> xbmc is mplayer with a GUI
[15:45] <Kibbles> donald_: thanks.
[15:45] <mavi-> running on a xbox
[15:45] <spdf> Tygir, The & causes it to load in the background, independent from the terminal
[15:45] <bod_> mavi-, lol
[15:45] <zionpsyfer> Kibbles: ~/.ssh/known_hosts is that file
[15:45] <Kibbles> zionpsyfer: thanks :)
[15:45] <mavi-> bod_: its a open source program, not from MS =)
[15:45] <bod_> mikebeecham, which art of that are you having problems with?
[15:45] <mavi-> actually its really good
[15:45] <mikebeecham> mavi-, I thnk you'll find it's a fair bit more complicated than that!
[15:45] <Tygir> spdf: ahhh ok...makes sense...in the visual effects tab its on "custom", that correct?
[15:46] <bod_> mavi-, what,. xbox media center is an open source program?
[15:46] <mavi-> mikebeecham: yeah i know
[15:46] <mavi-> bod_: yes
[15:46] <Saikumar> installation of latest nvidia drivers please!!!!!
[15:46] <mikebeecham> bod_, within xbox, I have set it to search for the linux smb shares....so when I am on linux I can stream fine
[15:46] <Kibbles> zionpsyfer: arggg the file is rsa encrypted
[15:46] <spdf> Tygir, Yep, that works, then you can muck around with compiz's advanced settings
[15:46] <mikebeecham> bod_,  however, when I have booted into windows, the xbox can no longer see the linux shares and does not work
[15:46] <donald_> saikumar: nvidia drivers work just fine for me. enable restricted drivers and reboot
[15:46] <mikebeecham> I want to be able to set everything so that when I boot into windows, the linux shares are still available?
[15:46] <bod_> mikebeecham, you mean booted into windows on the xbox?
[15:46] <Kibbles> Saikumar: nvidia-glx-new
[15:47] <mavi-> mikebeecham: you need to share the directories from windows to
[15:47] <mikebeecham> bod_, on the PC
[15:47] <zionpsyfer> Kibbles:  Heh, what are you trying to do?
[15:47] <mikebeecham> xbox is just a recipient of the streaming media from the PC upstairs
[15:47] <Tygir> spdf: add another one to your tally sheet!
[15:47] <bod_> mikebeecham, and linux on the xbox?
[15:47] <mikebeecham> nop
[15:47] <Kibbles> zion join #kibbles
[15:47] <mikebeecham> dual boot PC
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Saikumar: Read the instructions on the nvidia site since you seem intent on going outside the ubuntu driver selection
[15:47] <mavi-> mikebeecham: just rightclick the directory and chose "share"
[15:47] <spdf> !binarydriver | Saikumar
[15:47] <ubotu> Saikumar: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:47] <Tygir> spdf: is there a way to make it so compiz and emerald always load? so i wont have to type those 2 into the terminal everytime
[15:47] <bod_> mikebeecham, you need to have the linux files on the windows aswell
[15:48] <spdf> Tygir, Yep, compiz should load up everytime you login now that you set it in Appearance
[15:48] <mikebeecham> bod...see this is the issue....the folders are actually on a secondary HDD, which have been shared from windows
[15:48] <neverblue> morning
[15:48] <bod_> mikebeecham, so just set up so windows can see the files on the linux hard drive?
[15:48] <mikebeecham> so when I am in linux, they use those windows shares and then send a signal to xbox to pick up those windows shares when I am logged into linux
[15:48] <mavi-> mikebeecham: as long as the drive/directory is shared both from windows and linux then they will show up
[15:48] <spdf> Tygir, You'll have to add emerald to the the sessions startup programs (System -> Preferences -> Sesssions)
[15:49] <mikebeecham> but it's not working!!!
[15:49] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[15:49] <mavi-> bod_: hes problem is that his samba shares go away when he boots windows
[15:49] <neopsyche> Hi Can anyone help me with information on setting up a mirror of my website on my local computer?
[15:49] <mavi-> his*
[15:49] <mikebeecham> so within linux, if i right-click on the folder and 'share' then that should sort it
[15:49] <neopsyche> Is there software for mirroring?
[15:49] <mavi-> mikebeecham: yes, as long as you run linux
[15:49] <Tygir> spdf:ahh ok i got it now...thanks again man
[15:49] <bod_> mikebeecham, your overcomplicating things,. just share both of the folders so you can see everything from linux and windows,. fix 1 problem at a time,.,. remove the xbox from the equation untill you have the sharing sorted
[15:49] <mavi-> mikebeecham: for the files to be shared in windows, you need to do the same in windiws
[15:49] <spdf> mikebeecham, are your WORKGROUP's the same in Linux and Windows?
[15:49] <bentob0x> hi, I'm on Kubuntu 7.10 using Samba.  Do I need to create a Linux user on my machine to be able to share files via Samba?
[15:50] <spdf> mikebeecham, Also, are the shares named EXACTLY the same?
[15:50] <neopsyche> anyone?
[15:50] <bod_> spdf, this is so complicatingly perfectional
[15:50] <donald_> neopsyche: mirror what?
[15:50] <mikebeecham> spdf, I think so, yes...I am at work so will need to check when I get home
[15:50] <bentob0x> neopsyche: have a look at rsync
[15:50] <neopsyche> donald_: my websites ..
[15:50] <mavi-> mikebeecham: a solution might be to only add the computers IP as the bookmark and not the folder name
[15:50] <mavi-> mikebeecham: then you will see all available shares on that computer
[15:50] <chef_> could someone please tell me what I need to do to get magic sysrq functioning? I'm looking at my /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq file & it's totally blank
[15:50] <neverblue> bentob0x, u can use the current user, there is a #samba channel as well
[15:51] <donald_> neopsyche: rsync
[15:51] <neopsyche> bentob0x: i would like to try to get something that will automatically update every hour or two automatically and only updating the files that are changed / new .. to save bandwidht
[15:51] <bentob0x> yes rsync sounds right for what you want to do
[15:51] <bentob0x> add stuff in your cron if you want to do stuff every X hours
[15:52] <new2linux> can anyone help me with this command<< gksudo gedit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
[15:52] <new2linux> >>
[15:52] <donald_> new2linux:
[15:52] <bod_> new2linux, whats wrong with it?
[15:52] <donald_> new2linux: why would u want to fix that?
[15:52] <dgjones> bod_, you know that problem you were helping oklopol with, do you know what country he was in,  this could be the explanation of why he couldn't get to one website http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7218008.stm
[15:52] <neopsyche> can rsync auto update databases/
[15:52] <neopsyche> ?
[15:52] <new2linux> it wont let me edit
[15:53] <donald_> new2linux: why would u want to edit that?
[15:53] <bod_> dgjones, i appreciate ur enthusiasm il have a look,.,. and no i dont,.,. ty
[15:53] <mikebeecham> hmmm thats a good point
[15:53] <new2linux> im reading a wifidoc that says to the information you add should look like this, with your own data substituted.
[15:53] <new2linux> card ""Atheros Communications, Inc.", "AR5001-0000-0000", "Wireless LAN"
[15:53] <new2linux>   manfid 0x0271, 0x0012
[15:53] <new2linux>   function: 6 (network)
[15:53] <new2linux>   bind "ath_pci"
[15:53] <FloodBot3> new2linux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <bod_> dgjones, what contry would be .fi   ?   finland   -- middleeast?
[15:53] <new2linux> sorry
[15:54] <bod_> new2linux, use sudo not gksudo,.,. try it
[15:54] <cwgannon> sarmisak: i get an error when i run that command
[15:54] <Pici> bod_: no.. finland is not in the middle-east.
[15:54] <bod_> Pici, i didnt think so,. is it near the mediteranian sea?
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: what command are you having him run with sudo.
[15:55] <dgjones> bod_, .fi is finland, would be classed as europe, its scandanavia
[15:55] <new2linux> bod, command not found
[15:55] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, its a gedit
[15:55] <donald_> bod_: your geography sucks
[15:55] <cwgannon> haha
[15:55] <bod_> new2linux, impossible,. u cant not have sudo,.,. paste ur command
[15:55] <kbrooks> um, is there a way to optimize my connection? because currently ff d/ls at 75 kilobytes/second and i want it to download more faster, like 95 kilobytes/second
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: gksudo gedit ... if you please
[15:55] <bod_> donald_, im sorry,.,.*cries*
[15:56] <kbrooks> !gksudo | bod_
[15:56] <ubotu> bod_: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[15:56] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, yer,. but sudo should work aswell,.,.no?
[15:56] <new2linux> sudo gedit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
[15:56] <dgjones> bod_, but i suppose it depends where the websites server was based, rather than where the domain name was registered
[15:56] <kbrooks> bod_, read above pls
[15:56] <bod_> kbrooks, i was brainstorming not doubting the command,. thanks
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Only if you want to teach him how to break things
[15:56] <kbrooks> !gksudo > bod_
[15:56] <donald_> new2linux: u are in Xubuntu. gedit is not installed
[15:56] <spdf> mikebeecham, I'm using samba with xbmc as well. I don't use windows with it though
[15:56] <bod_> kbrooks, seriously stop bot'ing me
[15:56] <new2linux> how do i install gedit?
[15:57] <donald_> dont
[15:57] <new2linux> ok
[15:57] <bod_> sudo apt-get install gedit
[15:57] <kbrooks> bod_, i got what you said late
[15:57] <donald_> open a terminal big
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: try thunar as his editor
[15:57] <bod_> kbrooks, kk,.ty
[15:57] <donald_> then sudo nano /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
[15:57] <kbrooks> bod_, dont give him that command, there is mousepad.
[15:57] <moni> !dvd
[15:57] <chef_> could someone please tell me what I need to do to get magic sysrq functioning? I'm looking at my /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq file & it's totally blank
[15:57] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:57] <bod_> kbrooks, i was answering a question,.,. why shouldnt i give him an answer to a question/
[15:58] <new2linux> donald, it opened it thanks
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Installing gedit did answer his direct question, but not the answer he needed.
[15:58] <marfusha> сасите хуй
[15:58] <neopsyche> can i use rsync still .. if i dont have root access to the server? I only have access to FTP and cPanel
[15:58] <kbrooks> bod_, you are allowed to suggest alternatives :-) i was attempting to push you toward doing that
[15:58] <marfusha> убунту гавно
[15:58] <Pici> !ru | marfusha
[15:58] <ubotu> marfusha: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:58] <donald_> neopsyche: maybe not
[15:59] <bod_> kbrooks, i thought you were suggesting i shouldnt tell him how to do something,.,. misunderstanding,. sorry
[15:59] <donald_> neopsyche: since most webhosting companies wont give u rsync
[15:59] <kbrooks> bod_, np
[15:59] <chung> hello
[15:59] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, it would have fixed his problem aswell though,.,. and because gedit is used in many how-to's it will save him the time of remembering what his alternative is
[15:59] <neopsyche> donald_: solutions?
[16:00] <donald_> neopsyche: depends what your webhost provides.
[16:00] <chung_> hello, i'm new to ubuntu
[16:00] <bazhang> did that guy ever figure out his ip problem?
[16:00] <kbrooks> bod_, sometimes time saved isn't worth it
[16:00] <chung_> can anyone help me out
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: It wouldnt hurt you to know the editors of the other desktops either
[16:00] <bod_> kbrooks, why?
[16:00] <bazhang> ask away chung_
[16:00] <donald_> chung_ ask and someone MIGHT answer
[16:00] <kbrooks> bod_, see what Jack_Sparrow said, thats why
[16:00] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ok,. my bad,. god you guys are on the warpath today ,.,.;)
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[16:01] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[16:01] <donald_> best to know nano or vi. available almost everywhere
[16:01] <doctorow> I'd like to recursively delete all the files in my home directory and subdirectories that start with "._" -- rm -r \._* doesn't seem to work -- can someone help?
[16:01] <chung_> i have downloaded amule but i can't connect to the server
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Not on the warpath, but that is how we all learn..
[16:01] <donald_> chung_ : tough luck. many ISPs block amule ports
[16:01] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ty,.,. im experimenting with vim
[16:02] <bazhang> chung_: did you open the requisite ports?
[16:02] <neopsyche> donald_: is there a tool that will do what rsync does using FTP and login directly to server to pull DB and files that are new / updated?  Because I have FTP and HTTP access .. and am wondering if there is something that can pull the data without having a twin installed on the other end?
[16:02] <kbrooks> bod_, type :i to go  into insertion mode
[16:02] <H4ck3rx> !code
[16:02] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[16:02] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, am i right in thinking vim was the original text editor in times before gui's?
[16:02] <Pici> doctorow: find ~/ -name "._*" -exec rm '{}' \;
[16:02] <ferric84> I copied a directory from my local machine to a SMB server.  When i SSH into that server, I cannot see the folder at all, presumably because I don't have the right permissions.  What permissions/ownership do I need to set so I can see the folder?
[16:02] <kbrooks> bod_, you can type Esc to go back to command mode
[16:02] <chung_> bazhang: i don't know what you mean by requisite ports?
[16:02] <zionpsyfer> doctorow: give me a moment to double check the command on my own system.
[16:02] <donald_> neopsyche: not sure. rsync runs on port 873
[16:02] <Pici> doctorow: run it without all the -exec stuff first though, to make sure that you are getting the right files.
[16:02] <neopsyche> oh
[16:02] <neopsyche> ok
[16:02] <bod_> kbrooks, ok ty
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> doctorow: You want to remove all hidden directories ?
[16:03] <rinaldi_> is there a cpu/gpu benchmarking program for ubuntu?
[16:03] <chung> hello anyone there
[16:03] <doctorow> Pici -- thanks, that's perfect!
[16:03] <kbrooks> bod_, and :q to quit. :q! to quit without saving
[16:03] <bazhang> chung: likely you need to open certain ports for that type of app to connect--though as was mention upthread some (many) isp's block them
[16:03] <bod_> kbrooks, cheers
[16:03] <bazhang> mentioned even
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> rinaldi_: I have not seen one with any valid output
[16:04] <dn4> anyone know of a pdf program that can convert the pdf into text?
[16:04] <chung> bazhang: what i mean is that i don't know how to connect the amule
[16:04] <bazhang> chung and I just told you what to do--make sure the ports that amule uses are open for it
[16:05] <chung> how do i do that though, i'm not used to amule
[16:05] <neopsyche> donald_: if you are still interested i think i may have found solution.. thanks for help..
[16:05] <neopsyche> http://www.phpmybackuppro.net/
[16:05] <ibou> hi
[16:05] <donald_> google is good no?
[16:05] <bazhang> chung just a wild guess here; you are coming from a windows background?
[16:06] <new2linux> donald, i wrote what i am suppost to write how do i save it?
[16:06] <donald_> new2linux: Control O saves the file Control X quits
[16:06] <chung> i am using ubuntu
[16:06] <chung> i am used to windows but not used to ubuntu
[16:06] <chung> i'm a newbie
[16:07] <bazhang> chung yes or you would not be here in #ubuntu ;]
[16:07] <bod_> guys,. my dad has a minor annoyance he wants to know the answer to,.,. His step daughter keeps turning his kubuntu off and booting into windows to use msn and imvu and stuff like that,. she's not interested in linux alternatives, only ants the windows ones,. but my old man hates having to keep booting his comp into windows for her,. is there a way to run windows while kubuntu is running,. and switch between the 2,. but still have ful
[16:07] <bod_> l use of both?
[16:07] <chung> bazhang: so how do i open the ports then
[16:07] <dolphin_noel> chung everyone start from some place :)
[16:07] <edueb> i have a problem with metacity and the title bar that is disappeared. i've already read all the threads on the forum, but all the solutions are not working for me. I think that this problem came out after installing Xfce-desktop but i'm not sure. The strange thing is that everything is working well on my account (that is an admin account) but not in the others. what can i try? thanks in advance
[16:08] <zionpsyfer> bod_: Sounds like a vm such as virtual box might be what he's looking for.
[16:08] <donald_> bod_: VirtualBox
[16:08] <chung> so can you teach me how to connect it then
[16:08] <zim__> would someone like to help me connect to my wireless router?  Im pretty new to linuxand have read guides to get me to the point where it tries to get dhcpoffer and it always ends with noworking leases in persistent databases
[16:08] <neverblue> bod_, there is amsn, as a great alternative to MSN Messenger, fyi
[16:08] <bod_> donald_, zionpsyfer, can you give me a easybility rating,.,. like out of ten how easy r they to install and use?
[16:09] <bod_> neverblue,  you didnt read the post fully did you,.,.;)
[16:09] <donald_> bod_ on a scale of 1 to 10, i'd say 12
[16:09] <Past> hey guys i'm trying to do an fsck to repair all my hardrives from the livecd
[16:09] <neverblue> bod_, I did, but I thought i might offer what I said as well
[16:09] <Past> but fsck -A doesn't work
[16:09] <rinaldi_> zim__: what are you using to connect to the router? eg usb dongle?
[16:09] <Past> what is the command to check all hard drives from livecd
[16:09] <Past> ?
[16:09] <neverblue> bod_, as I knew a few could answer your question 'for what you were looking for'
[16:09] <bod_> neverblue, we showed her amsn ,. but she prefers msn,.,. women!
[16:09] <neverblue> !enter | Past
[16:09] <ubotu> Past: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:09] <neverblue> bod_, tell me about it :D
[16:10] <bazhang> chung do you have a firewall going?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> edueb: Something to do with the decorator, but the people in #Compiz will know for sure
[16:10] <spdf> Past, you have to specify the devices.. fsck /dev/hda1 for example
[16:10] <zim__> its a pci device (marvell chipset, had to use ndiswrapper)
[16:10] <bod_> donald_, cheers,.,. i might do it for him later
[16:10] <Past> spdf, but i want to do any available, is there no way?
[16:10] <edueb> Jack_Sparrow, i'm not using neither compix nor beryl
[16:10] <zionpsyfer> bod_:  It is pretty easy.  You're basically installing windows.  IIRC there are two options for install, onto a partition on the physical disk, or inside a file inside the linux filesystem.
[16:10] <bod_> neverblue, 14 yrs old,. and still stubborn,.,. guess she's never gonna grow out of it,.,. lucky us!,,. not ,.,.;)
[16:10] <rinaldi_> zim__: i have the same type of card and got mine working. i found a v good tutorial. lemme find. 1 min
[16:11] <dgjones> bod_, there is a msn skin that seems to work quite well for amsn (I don't use - prefer pidgin anyway), but when i looked at it with somebody else they were quite happy with it
[16:11] <neverblue> bod_, vmware/virtual machines might require a decent system, so you might need to pop some RAM into it
[16:11] <zionpsyfer> lol donald_
[16:11] <spdf> Past, not that I recall..
[16:11] <zim__> rindaldi_ty
[16:11] <bod_> zionpsyfer, inside a folder sounds better,.,. but i dont want to install windows,,. i want to use the dual boot one
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> edueb: I still think I have seen them handle that metacity issue
[16:11] <bod_> neverblue, thanks for the heads up
[16:12] <bazhang> chung: you still looking for assistance?
[16:12] <edueb> Jack_Sparrow, i'll try to ask there, thanks
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> edueb: typing   metacity --replace    do anything
[16:12] <zionpsyfer> bod_: Hmm, never tried that.  Though I've been considering trying it on this computer as there is a windows partition sitting around only for itunes.
[16:12] <donald_> bod_: using Vbox to boot the existing windows installation is more tricky
[16:12] <bod_> dgjones, she wont use it,.,. she complains about every aspect of linux because she  doesnt understand anything about computers,. she's familiar with something and doesnt want to leave it
[16:12] <bod_> donald_,  but dooable?
[16:12] <edueb> Jack_Sparrow, it works but not permanently, in fact when i reboot it's like before
[16:13] <donald_> at 14 and she's like that?
[16:13] <bod_> donald_, yer!
[16:13] <neverblue> bod_, also, you could see if MSN Messenger will run under Wine, possibly try #winehq
[16:13] <donald_> bod_ : i havent done it. friend has. but it asks to be validated again
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> edueb: I wonder if adding that to the startup of the other users would do any good
[16:13] <chung> bazhang: yes i am still looking for assistance
[16:13] <rinaldi_> zim__:  can you give me your output for "ndiswrapper -l"
[16:13] <bod_> neverblue, another problem ,.,. my dad is also stubborn and refuses to have any microsoft product on his linux box
[16:13] <bazhang> chung then please answer my question upthread
[16:14] <new2linux> donald tried using wifidoc had no luck any guesses on how i can get my wirless card to work?
[16:14] <zionpsyfer> donald_: Ahhh, yeah.  The hardware would appear to have changed.
[16:14] <zim__> rinaldi that is a capitol i or a lower case L?
[16:14] <neverblue> bod_, well, it is a 'free' M$ product, if that makes him feel better
[16:14] <donald_> bod_: buy a used laptop for her
[16:14] <mark_s21> \join #arc
[16:14] <brobostigon> using win progs on unix, defeats the point of using unix at the start.
[16:14] <rinaldi_> lower L
[16:14] <edueb> Jack_Sparrow, i can try that. how can i add it in the start up?
[16:14] <zim__> thought so
[16:14] <neverblue> donald_, let her make enough $$ to buy her own, sounds like she could use that :D
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[16:14] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[16:15] <chung> bazhang: i don't know wheres the firewall on ubuntu
[16:15] <cwgannon> ahoy
[16:15] <donald_> new2linux: u should look at pastebin
[16:15] <bod_> neverblue, it has 2 very bad letters on it M and S ,. i mentioned msn under wine and he said " *naughty words* why the *naughty word* would i do that?
[16:15] <cwgannon> does anybody know offhand where amarok stores collection data by default?  (home directory or elsewhere?)
[16:15] <zim__> rinaldi mrv8000c : driver installed <line>device (11AB:1FAA) present
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > chung
[16:15] <neverblue> bod_ gotcha :)
[16:15] <brobostigon> !firewall | chung
[16:15] <ubotu> chung: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:15] <donald_> and get the output of tail -f /var/log/messages into there
[16:15] <_sam_> ~/.kde
[16:15] <bod_> donald_,  she has her own internet ready comp,. but doesnt use it
[16:15] <neverblue> bod_, but we did give you quite a few options, I hope that helps
[16:16] <edueb> !startup
[16:16] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[16:16] <edueb> !boot
[16:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[16:16] <_sam_> any clue how i can block bittorrent traffic on my linuxbox using firehol?
[16:16] <bod_> neverblue,  i appreciate it,. now i have another question,.,. if i would have to revalidate windows ,. how do i bypass that,. because you cant validate it twice without removing the other one
[16:16] <cwgannon> _sam_: thank you
[16:17] <bod_> donald_, plz read my post to neverblue a few lines up
[16:17] <neverblue> bod_, bypassing Windows is not a topic we can discuss here
[16:17] <chung> jack_sparrow and brobostigon: yes but i don't know wheres the firewall on ubuntu, i am using the new version f ubuntu that i have downloaded recently
[16:17] <bod_> neverblue, can you tell me if it can be done?
[16:17] <neverblue> bod_, try #microsoft
[16:17] <bazhang> offtopic
[16:17] <Gejsajano> all: what means neverblue?
[16:17] <donald_> not a windows user.. sorry!
[16:17] <bod_> neverblue,  they'd never tell me
[16:17] <edueb> !boot
[16:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[16:17] <neverblue> bod_, neither will we
[16:17] <Pici> !windows | bod_
[16:17] <ubotu> bod_: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:17] <bod_> bazhang, sorry stopping now,.,. it started out on topic,.,.;)
[16:17] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[16:17] <rinaldi_> zim__: hmmm ok same as mine. thing is i did this quite a time ago. leeme think
[16:17] <new2linux> donald,what do u need to know to help?
[16:17] <Gejsajano> neverblue: hahahhaha
[16:18] <neverblue> guys, I have it handled, but that
[16:18] <neverblue> thanks*
[16:18] <Pici> bullgard4: ask in #programming, this isn't on topic for #ubuntu.
[16:18] <brobostigon> chang: the firewall is called iptables, but where its install, no idea, but you need to use another prog to configure it.
[16:18] <bod_> Pici, i was inquiring to windows through vmware on linux,. does that count?
[16:18] <Pici> bod_: no.
[16:18] <b4l74z4r> i don't get it, i marked opera for complete removal in synaptic nad when i installed opera again it remembered all my previous settings, how is that possible?
[16:18] <bod_> Pici,  ok sorry
[16:18] <rinaldi_> zim__: do you have any output on "iwconfig"?
[16:18] <zionpsyfer> bod_: You'll probably have to call MS to revalidate if it won't.
[16:18] <chung> wheres the firewall on ubuntu someone please help me?
[16:19] <donald_> new2linux: the output of "tail -f /var/log/messages" as you insert the PCMCIA card
[16:19] <Gejsajano> bod_: odkial si?
[16:19] <kbrooks> bod_, but we cannot help with bypassing
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> chung: We pointed it out a couple of times now
[16:19] <zionpsyfer> chung: Try installing 'firestarter'
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[16:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:19] <brobostigon> chung: what do you mean,"wheres the firewall"??
[16:19] <bod_> Gejsajano, what?
[16:19] <bod_> kbrooks, ok ta
[16:19] <bullgard4> Pici: You are wrong. Also Ubuntu requires to surround some identifiers by ` and '.
[16:19] <bod_> zionpsyfer, ty
[16:19] <bazhang> chung did you read any of the many links people gave you?
[16:19] <donald_> !pastebin | new2linux
[16:19] <ubotu> new2linux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:19] <Gejsajano> bod_: i have think you don`t speak only english
[16:20] <Pici> bullgard4: Ubuntu is not a programming language.
[16:20] <bod_> Gejsajano, i think you think correctly
[16:20] <donald_> zionpsyfer: i think installing a firewall wont help amule run
[16:20] <zionpsyfer> bod_: no problem, good luck with it.
[16:20] <Gejsajano> bod_: now yes :)
[16:20] <chung> bazhang : yes i have read it, what i mean is how do i get to the firewall on ubuntu
[16:20] <bullgard4> Pici: I did not state stat Ubuntu is a programming language.
[16:20] <kbrooks> bullgard4, he is not wrong, you are. what is a identifier, i haven't heard ubuntu as a whole require identifiers to be surrounded by ` and '
[16:20] <zionpsyfer> donald_: Agreed.  I missed that part of the question.
[16:20] <bod_> Gejsajano, was there something you wanted help with?
[16:21] <sl_new_guy> hi??
[16:21] <Gejsajano> bod_: no thanks, in this time i`m ok :)
[16:21] <Kibbles> ports are opening and closing on my computer. huh?
[16:21] <bod_> Gejsajano, ok,.,.
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> chung: If you read the link iptableshowto...  you would know... or did you just read the one line in here
[16:21] <sl_new_guy> can I ask something about "LC-ALL" setting??????????????????????????????
[16:22] <donald_> Kibbles: better ports than pots!
[16:22] <chung> jack_sparrow: what one line? i don't get you
[16:22] <bod_> neverblue, donald_, sorry which one of you said your friend did it?
[16:22] <sl_new_guy> :)
[16:22] <zim__> lo no wireless extensions <line> eth0 no wireless extensions <line> wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:off/any <line>mode :managed frequnecy 2.462 ghz (what I set it to because my router is on channel 11) access point: not associated<line bit rate 54 mb/s sensiticity=-200dbm<line>rts thr=2346 B fragment thr=2346B<line>power management:off<line>link quality:0 singnal level:0 noise level:0<linerx invalid nwid:0 rx invalid crypt:0 rx invalid fr
[16:22] <Suicidal_Failure> Jack_Sparrow: no he definitely didn't read the line in here :)
[16:22] <antipop> Hello, what programs on ubuntu are similar to WinSCP?
[16:22] <donald_> bod_ i did
[16:22] <kbrooks> bullgard4, ubuntu is not a programming language, but m4 is. please join another channel for your query, programming languages are not ubuntu support
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Suicidal_Failure: Obviously
[16:22] <Nianbig> ld.so is missing on my system, anyone know how I can install it easily?
[16:22] <neverblue> bod_, wasnt me, but you can always scroll up :D
[16:22] <rinaldi_> zim_: use a pastebin for big pastes
[16:22] <bod_> neverblue, cheers
[16:22] <chung> do i need any commands for firestarter?
[16:22] <zim__> its not on this machine
[16:22] <Nermal> Nianbig, it's probably ld.so.6 on your system
[16:22] <zim__> im using two at once
[16:23] <rinaldi_> zim_: ok
[16:23] <zionpsyfer> !firestarter | chung
[16:23] <benj3one> I have installed: x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment and ubuntu-desktop
[16:23] <benj3one> on a colo server. The only way I can connect is ssh. I am trying to be able to either bring up the server GUI or at least open remote Xwindow apps.
[16:23] <ubotu> chung: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:23] <bod_> donald_, can i pm you about it?
[16:23] <zionpsyfer> gah
[16:23] <donald_> chung: installing a firewall will not make amule work
[16:23] <zionpsyfer> chung, it is a graphical application.
[16:23] <donald_> bod_ PM what? i have no idea how it was validated
[16:23] <kbrooks> okay, logging out + in
[16:23] <bod_> donald_, ok cheers
[16:23] <Nianbig> Nermal: ok, I´m following this guide to jailroot sftp-users, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e28e78a01f4301d2326d181c43a0317d&t=451510... but I get this error message when I´m running ./setup_chroot.sh: -e i cant find your equivalent of ld.so
[16:24] <chung> donald: so how do i make the amule work then?
[16:24] <neverblue> bod_, any further discussion, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:24] <benj3one> Does anyone have a link to a simple tutorial for that?
[16:24] <ene_dene> I have installed program alltray and when I click on some window it wouldn't tray it. Any ideas?
[16:24] <bod_> neverblue, thankyou,.,. ive stopped now
[16:24] <rinaldi_> zim_: check the contents of "ls /etc/ndiswrapper/mrv8000c " you should get "11AB:1FAA.5.conf  mrv8000c.inf  mrv8000c.sys "
[16:24] <zionpsyfer> chung: Have you checked your router to make sure it is forwarding the ports correctly?
[16:24] <donald_> chung: i dont use amule but i am sure putting a firewall in will make matters worse, not better
[16:24] <new2linux> donald, it worked for a minute then computer froze and i took out the card and computer unfroze
[16:25] <brobostigon> chung: open the net ports it needs to communicate with the internet, both on your computer and if you have a router that too.
[16:25] <chung> zionpsyfer: my first time to go on amule so i don't know everything
[16:25] <rinaldi_> zim__: also do you use wep encryption?
[16:26] <donald_> new2linux: looks like u may have to undo the changes to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts
[16:26] <zim__> rinaldi there seems to be two conf files11AB:1FAA.5.conf and 11AB:1FAB.5.conf
[16:26] <chung> brobostigon: where is the net ports on amule?
[16:26] <zim__> also it is wpa, wep.
[16:26] <rinaldi_> zim__: what tutorial did you use originaly?
[16:27] <zim__> rinaldi for which part, wpa or connecting at all?
[16:27] <zionpsyfer> chung: No worries.  But if you have a router in your house.  You will need to configure it to allow the ports that amule uses.  There are instructions in their wik at: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall
[16:27] <new2linux> donald, it will only work when i use the tail -f /var/log/messages
[16:27] <brobostigon> chung: look on the emule website, lookup the ports it uses, and open those on your firewall/router.
[16:27] <new2linux> donald, i run that tail then unplug my card, then replug it in and it works
[16:27] <zionpsyfer> chung:  Skip the linux firewall instructions first and work on your router.  If it still does not work, then follow the linux firewall instructions.
[16:27] <rinaldi_> zim_: for setting up overall, is the tutorial on wifidocs on ubuntu site?
[16:28] <zim__> no, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[16:28] <donald_> new2linux: ok. copy the text that is added on the screen as the card is inserted. then use pastebin to show them to us
[16:28] <bazhang> http://wiki.amule.org/ chung
[16:28] <rinaldi_> zim_: so you used wpa supplicant?
[16:28] <antipop> chung, I like much more ktorrent than amule :)
[16:28] <zim__> yes
[16:29] <new2linux> donald, ok itll be a bit
[16:29] <chung> brobostigon: my router is linksys so i don't know how to set it up
[16:29] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok i used a diff one that works fine for me i think i found it one sec
[16:29] <donald_> !pastebin | new2linux
[16:29] <gnurph69> how can i remotely administer an ubuntu box?  VINO is installed and tested, but VNC doesn't seem to work unless somebody is logged in already.
[16:29] <ubotu> new2linux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:29] <bazhang> chung you need to actually read that wiki ;]
[16:30] <brobostigon> chung: lookon the amule website, it has instructions there to setup ypur touter for amule.
[16:30] <donald_> gnurph69 depends if u have good bandwidth. XDMCP is an option
[16:31] <DRebellion> gnurph69: ssh
[16:31] <gnurph69> DRebellion:  i have to have an SSH server preloaded, no?
[16:31] <donald_> gnurph69 depends if u have good bandwidth. XDMCP is an option
[16:31] <gnurph69> donald_:  it's on my local LAN.
[16:31] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok iv kinda got the idea so i cn talk you through if you have time to
[16:31] <donald_> gnurph69 then u want XDMCP
[16:31] <Kloss> hi i tried every cd-dvd burning application. but it is not working. Why? see here what K3B shows me as an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54071/
[16:32] <DRebellion> gnurph69: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:32] <joey[]> I have problem with apt-get, certain package was broken during installation and now I cannot get rid of it and cannot install new packages
[16:32] <new2linux> donald , do you need me to copy the numbers and everything?
[16:32] <joey[]> when I do : sudo apt-get install
[16:32] <chung> brobostigon: what is the website for amule that has instructions to setup my router?
[16:32] <zim__> rinaldi how long do you think it will take? my schedule gives me about half an hour right now?
[16:32] <joey[]> I get : http://www.pastebin.ca/884784
[16:32] <brobostigon> chung: try google
[16:32] <chung> ok
[16:33] <antipop> what programs on ubuntu are similar to a WinSCP (SCP (SFTP)protocol)?
[16:33] <donald_> gnurph69 System > Administration > Login Window > Remote
[16:33] <DRebellion> !enter | joey[]
[16:33] <ubotu> joey[]: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:33] <rinaldi_> zim__: it shouldn't take much time at all
[16:33] <mavi-> antipop: go places -> connect to server
[16:33] <unicum> is it standard for rhythmbox, that in >>music<< i can change the order of appearance by clicking on top of a column while within a playlist this is not possible?
[16:33] <donald_> new2linux: just the text that changed/added on as the card is plugged in
[16:33] <mavi-> antipop: then chose ssh and you will get a shortcut at the desktop
[16:33] <zim__> rinaldi allright, if you happen to use aim (or if irc can send messages outside chatrooms {i dont use it much so I dunno}) it would probably be easier that way
[16:34] <joey[]> my apt-get is broken, how do I remove this package and make my apt-get work again? http://www.pastebin.ca/884784
[16:34] <rinaldi_> zim__: are you registered on irc?
[16:34] <gnurph69> donald_:  and in my wildest dreams (sorry, everybody) - there's not an easy way to do this on MS-windoze, is there?
[16:34] <zim__> rinaldi i dont know, i use trillian and just filled in the fields it asked me for when i decided to come on this irc channel to ask for help
[16:34] <antipop> mavi-, thank you :)
[16:35] <chung> i can't find the setup for amule?
[16:35] <bazhang> chung you read the wiki?
[16:36] <rinaldi_> zim__: so yuo're not. no worries i wont type too much into here anyways, lets start with removing the old driver and starting from new by using "sudo ndiswrapper -r <name of driver>"
[16:36] <rinaldi_> zim__: mrv8000c i think
[16:36] <Kloss> hi i tried every cd-dvd burning application. but it is not working. Why? see here what K3B shows me as an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54071/
[16:37] <brobostigon> chung: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall
[16:37] <bazhang> heh
[16:37] <zim__> rinaldi password prompt and returned to command after that
[16:37] <dnanar> hi all !
[16:37] <bazhang> kloss what are you trying to burn?
[16:37] <new2linux> donald, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54072/plain/
[16:37] <dnanar> where can i modify the options of the modules launched at startup please ?
[16:37] <kasr1> in gutsy my objects on the panel (workspace,date&time,..) change their positition after any restart , is there any solution ?!
[16:37] <rinaldi_> zim__: do ndiswrapper -l and make sure thers nothing there
[16:38] <zim__> rinaldi nothing shows up
[16:38] <Kloss> bazhang: data from my external harddrive. just one folder with 2 subfolders. should not be a problem normally.
[16:38] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok download the driver from here http://downloads.trendnet.com/TEW-421PC_b1%5CDriver%5CUtility_Driver_TEW-421PC_423PI_b1_2.00.zip and extract it
[16:38] <zim__> rinaldi of note, i will be downloading it and transferring via usb device
[16:39] <bazhang> kloss you put in a blank cd/dvd first?
[16:39] <kasr1> in gutsy my objects on the panel (workspace,date&time,..) change their positition after any restart , is there any solution ?!
[16:39] <Kloss> bazhang: sure.
[16:39] <rinaldi_> zim__: oh yeh forgot fout that :-$ yes you will
[16:39] <Kloss> bazhang: i is the first time i try burning with ubuntu.
[16:40] <dnanar> anyone may help me please ? :D
[16:40] <bazhang> kloss this is on gnome or kde?
[16:40] <Kloss> bazhang: but it is necessary now. so can you find sth strange in my error message?
[16:40] <zim__> rinaldi it isnt going to somehow magically make it not work that I have to do that though right?
[16:40] <brobostigon> !ask | dnanar
[16:40] <ubotu> dnanar: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:40] <DRebellion> brobostigon: he has already asked a question.
[16:40] <Kloss> bazhang: ubuntu is gnome. but every other burning application did also fail.
[16:40] <chung> i don't really get Now forward the ports to your computer:
[16:40] <chung>    1. Standard client TCP port
[16:40] <chung>          1. Change both Ports start and End to 4662
[16:40] <chung>          2. In the next field set TCP
[16:40] <chung>          3. In the field, the last 3 digits of your LAN IP
[16:40] <chung>    2. Extended client UDP port
[16:40] <FloodBot3> chung: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:40] <rinaldi_> zim__: no
[16:41] <new2linux> donald , get my paste?
[16:41] <DRebellion> chung: what are you trying to do?
[16:41] <bazhang> chung best to read up a bit on port forwarding then
[16:41] <dnanar> ubotu: well i already asked: where can i modify the options of the modules launched at startup please ? -)
[16:41] <zim__> rinaldi ok, extracted, im guessing the next step is move them, so I am going to go ahead and start doing that
[16:41] <bazhang> kloss when you put in the blank cd/dvd did a dialog box come up asking you what you want to do with it?
[16:41] <chung> DRebellion: i am trying to setup my router to be able to use amule
[16:42] <Kloss> bazhang: also tried gnomebaker and brasero. :(
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................
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[16:42] <dnanar> brobostigon:  well i already asked: where can i modify the options of the modules launched at startup please ? ;-)
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................
[16:42] <samad909> hi, my sound card was giving output perfectly fine using the OSS mixer but it just stopped doing so, any help
[16:42] <dgjones> !bot | dnanar
[16:42] <ubotu> dnanar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:42] <rinaldi_> zim__:  go ahead, just put the folder on the desktop for now
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> heloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:42] <RichiH> sl_new_guy: yes?
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> hi
[16:42] <RichiH> sl_new_guy: hi
[16:42] <bazhang> sl_new_guy: stop
[16:42] <sl_new_guy> i need som help with me ubuntu
[16:42] <Kloss> bazhang: yes it also did. but i said ignore, cause i wanted to use another application.
[16:42] <dnanar> dgjones: heuh.. how this can help me please ?
[16:43] <brobostigon> dnadar: onee possibility is /etc/modules
[16:43] <RichiH> sl_new_guy: in that case, i suggest you reduce your character count so we can actually read what you say :)
[16:43] <zim__> rinaldi oh i have no desktop, im using the server release (dont make any comments about wireless servers, its only for personal use.  I am going to put it in my home dir once I get windows to stop being queer about my usb)
[16:43] <bazhang> Kloss: could you try again and not ignore this time? choose burn data cd/dvd if that option is available
[16:43] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok then
[16:43] <chung> whats a Lan Ip?
[16:44] <Kloss> bazhang: i try
[16:44] <DRebellion> chung: every computer on your local area network has an IP (internet protocol) address.
[16:44] <bazhang> kloss you tried? or are going to try?
[16:44] <samad909> can anyone help me out please, i tried alsa mixer which does not work, i tried oss mixer which worked just a few minutes back and now it does not work, I am using a sound blaster audigy value card
[16:44] <gnurph69> Donald_:  I've now got an XWindows client(/server et al) installed.  I hit http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/linux-login-with-a-windows-box-and-xdmcp-15547 to try and figure out how to set XDMCP up, but it's KDE based and I'm using GNOME.  Other suggestions?
[16:44] <tass1412> is there a possibility to use UUID in
[16:45] <tass1412> .../etc/crypttab
[16:45] <brobostigon> chung: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address
[16:45] <Kloss> bazhang: i now try.
[16:45] <cyth> my desktop is messed up
[16:45] <bazhang> okay kloss
[16:45] <rinaldi_> zim__: just to check, do ndiswrapper -v is the version 1.9?
[16:45] <chung> DRebellion: so does that mean i put my own ip in
[16:45] <cyth> toolbars are fine, applications work fne
[16:46] <DRebellion> chung: into where?
[16:46] <cyth> but my desktop is blank, no icons, and I can't right click on it
[16:46] <bkb> what is the login id and passwd? for oem install? what is supposed to do next with an oem install?
[16:46] <bazhang> bkb why do you want to do an oem install?
[16:46] <SleepingSloth> are any of the freenode staffers about?
[16:47] <chung> DRebellion: into my router to make amule work?
[16:47] <sl_new_guy> i'm soory
[16:47] <sl_new_guy> sorry
[16:47] <bazhang> !freenode
[16:47] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[16:47] <bkb> bazhang-> preparation for rollout? thats what its intended for isnt it?
[16:47] <dgjones> SleepingSloth, try #freenode for staffers there
[16:47] <Kloss> bazhang: it seems to be working. prozess still on 63 % ..... error.... :(
[16:47] <DRebellion> chung: if you want to forward a port to your computer, then put your computers ip address in, yes.
[16:47] <zim__> rinaldi sigh, so windows decided to crash on me,  lucky me.  Ill be back after a restart.
[16:47] <chung> ok
[16:47] <SleepingSloth> dgjones - the majority of them are in here, according to /who
[16:47] <sl_new_guy> some bady can help me??
[16:47] <rinaldi_> zim__: ;-)
[16:48] <sl_new_guy> it's my first time
[16:48] <DRebellion> !ask | sl_new_guy
[16:48] <bazhang> bkb never tried it not sure--perhaps just ubuntu and enter
[16:48] <ubotu> sl_new_guy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:48] <Kloss> bazhang: unknown error...shutdown.
[16:48] <Kloss> what can be done?
[16:48] <sl_new_guy> drevellion: can you tell me how set LC-ALL??
[16:48] <cronik> WAS UP MY PEOPLE
[16:48] <sl_new_guy> i've ubuntu 6.06
[16:49] <bazhang> kloss this was using k3b?
[16:49] <chung> what does it mean by the last 3 digits of my ip address?
[16:49] <bkb> bazhang-> kind of wanted input from enterprise sys admins on how they plan for rollouts?  you use oem install? dhcp address to user or static?
[16:49] <Kloss> no. the standard programme for burning is brasero. so this was using brasero.
[16:49] <JediMaster> Can anyone tell me where to find a list of supported printers in ubuntu? I'm building some machines that need a receipt printer, and the majority are serial
[16:49] <Kloss> bazhang: no. the standard programme for burning is brasero. so this was using brasero.
[16:49] <cronik> please someone tell me that one day linux will be bigger then ms
[16:50] <JediMaster> cronik: I'm afraid there's no one "linux" company
[16:50] <brobostigon> chung: if your IP is 192.168.1.1, then the last three digits are only 1,
[16:50] <DRebellion> chung: ok, i'll help you figure out your computer's ip address. if you're running linux, open up a terminal and type   ifconfig
[16:50] <bazhang> cronik: nice thought but offtopic
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cronik: Please see the offtopic channel for non-support conversations
[16:50] <cronik> lol
[16:50] <cronik> sorry about that
[16:50] <DRebellion> !hcl | JediMaster
[16:50] <ubotu> JediMaster: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:50] <cronik> one day "we" GNU will be bigger
[16:50] <cronik> lol
[16:50] <Hellow> lol
[16:50] <cronik> im under the GLP
[16:51] <cronik> only gor ladies
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cronik: Please stop
[16:51] <cronik> for*
[16:51] <sl_new_guy> JediMaster?
[16:51] <cronik> ok
[16:51] <cronik> sorry
[16:51] <Hellow> I cant believe that there can be more than 1000 people in a chat room at a time
[16:51] <cronik> can i help anyone
[16:51] <bazhang> cronik: be prepared to be ex-gpl if you dont stop
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Hellow: Your joining put us over the limit.. please leave...  :)  sorry for the ot
[16:52] <Hellow> lol
[16:52] <JediMaster> sl_new_guy: ? just asked if there is a list of supported printers for ubuntu somewhere?
[16:52] <bazhang> haha
[16:52] <brobostigon> !hcl | jedimaster
[16:52] <ubotu> jedimaster: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:52] <sl_new_guy> no, i'm interesed in set the LC-ALL variable
[16:53] <JediMaster> ta brobostigon
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> While there is a lull in questions.. I have one.  I need as many cli commands that grep out different problems as I can find for a project..  Please pm me with your best greg...
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> grep
[16:54] <gnurph69> okay, I can't find instructions anywhere on how to set up XDMCP in Gnome.  Any suggestions, anybody?
[16:54] <JediMaster> brobostigon: is this a complete list? there's only about 30 epson printers on there, and not a single receipt printer
[16:54] <sl_new_guy> jedimaster can you write more primitive english? i'm argentinian
[16:54] <Hellow> rofl really?
[16:54] <brobostigon> jedimaster: no idea,i think its complete
[16:54] <samad909> My sound card isnt working, tried alsa and oss both, oss worked till a few minutes back
[16:54] <Kloss> bazhang: any idea? is a package missing on my system?
[16:55] <JediMaster> sl_new_guy: sorry, I need to find what printers work in ubuntu
[16:55] <cronik> sama
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> samad909: we have our basic sound help page I can link if you have not seen it
[16:55] <bazhang> kloss for burning data? are you just burning data and not mp3's etc for audio disk et al
[16:55] <sl_new_guy> Drebellion: do you understandme? maybe i wasn't clear
[16:55] <cronik> do you have a desktop or laptop?
[16:55] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: i checked it
[16:55] <JediMaster> sl_new_guy: I need to use a receipt printer for a shop, e.g. a serial port Epson
[16:55] <brobostigon> jedimaster: linux uses cups for printing, have a look on there website too
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> samad909: and the troubleshooting secion didnt help
[16:56] <JediMaster> brobostigon: yes, good point, forgot to check on cups
[16:56] <DrakeJustice> !afk
[16:56] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[16:56] <sl_new_guy> ohhh, sorry i can't helpyou with that
[16:56] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: it says that it should work by default and it did till i just changed devices from volume control, i changed it back but no avail, the troubleshoot didnt help
[16:57] <bazhang> Kloss: how about copying the data over to your main drive and try burning from there? that is what springs to mind right now
[16:57] <Hellow> How do you pronounce Ubuntu?
[16:57] <SleepingSloth> you-bone-too
[16:57] <DrakeJustice> any good irc references out there?
[16:57] <MidasWS> hi, how do i remove the contents+subdirectories of a dir without removing the directory itself in ssh?
[16:57] <Kloss> bazhang: i will try so.
[16:57] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok so have you transferred the folder?
[16:57] <cronik> try to reconfigure your alsa driver
[16:57] <SleepingSloth> Heartsbane, or, is that just our office joke?!
[16:57] <bazhang> ubundeux
[16:57] <Hellow> o, i thought it was like U-Bun-Tu
[16:57] <cronik> that helped me out with my hp laptop
[16:57] <bkb> gnurph69-> XDMCP is known to be unsecure over the internet..are you tunnelling the link?
[16:57] <Hellow> Er, U-Bun-To-U
[16:57] <DrakeJustice> MidasWS: rm /name/of/dir/* -rf (instead of rm /name/of/dir -rf)
[16:57] <SleepingSloth> Hellow, oops. sent that ot the wrong person.... maybe thats just an office joke..?
[16:58] <MidasWS> Thanks Drake
[16:58] <gnurph69> bkb:  on my local LAN
[16:58] <SleepingSloth> Hellow, i mean, in our office...
[16:58] <Heartsbane> SleepingSloth: what?
[16:58] <Hellow> lol
[16:58] <gnurph69> bkb:  might have found it.
[16:58] <Hellow> brb im thirsty
[16:58] <SleepingSloth> Heartsbane, sorry, over-zealous use of tab key :S
[16:58] <zim__> rinaldi yeah, just got it voer there and was checking to make sure it actually went
[16:58] <gnurph69> bkb:  needed to enable remote login...but I don't know if that's all that's required.
[16:58] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: I'm goint to ask you again: how can I set the LC-ALL variable??
[16:58] <Lt_Forst> Hi all
[16:59] <rinaldi_> zim__: do ndiswrapper -v    is the version 1.9?
[16:59] <cronik> witch
[16:59] <cronik> can help
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> samad909: what did aplay show?
[16:59] <zim__> rinaldi how do I tell?
[16:59] <DRebellion> sl_new_guy: i have no idea what you're talking about
[16:59] <bkb> gnurph69-> remote login or you want to login via ssh? sshd has to be installed
[16:59] <zim__> rinaldi oh, thats how i tell
[16:59] <cronik> but i dont think that command work in ubuntu
[16:59] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: aplay -l shows the card so does /proc/asound/cards
[16:59] <DrakeJustice> MidasWS: yup
[16:59] <cronik> to install ssh just run sudo apt-get install ssh
[16:59] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: lspci also lists the card
[17:00] <gnurph69> bkb:  needed full screen; VNC didn't work because somebody already has to be logged in for success.  Okay, I just got XDMCP working...now to the real problem.  :)
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> samad909: IS it hdaintel?
[17:00] <cronik> or try to see what driver you have by running lspci | grep sound
[17:00] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: it is a sound blaster audigy value pci card
[17:00] <zim__> rinaldi utils version 1.9 (a little down) version 1.45
[17:00] <sl_new_guy> for install ntfs-3g I need to have setted this thre stuff: LENGUAGE, LC-ALL, LANG
[17:00] <kubrickit> I did a chmod 700 / by mistake and now (obviously) nothing is working. How can I undo that ?
[17:00] <cronik> theere is a vnc server that let you start a new x session once you log in
[17:01] <Hellow> back
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> samad909: I have not worked with any of those yet... someone will know
[17:01] <DrakeJustice> kubrickit: be more careful with the sudo and root accounts... i dunno howto undo that... if you find out tell me... lol
[17:01] <rinaldi_> zim__:  ok now do "sudo ndiswrapper -i <driver>(which is in the XP directory of the folder you just put in)
[17:01] <bkb> gnurph69-> you can ssh in with -C -X options then launch  gnome-session,  however be forewarned, somehow it messes up the metacity, something to do with session and gdm borking
[17:01] <samad909> Jack_Sparrow: alright, i will just try to reboot and then check
[17:01] <Hellow> Ok, i need to change my email client in 7.04 from Evolution to Thunderbird, how do i do that? Or does it change itself?
[17:01] <sl_new_guy> because it (ubuntu)doesn't liveme install it
[17:01] <cronik> why not install the gui version of ndiswrapper
[17:02] <cronik> go to defaul application
[17:02] <gnurph69> bkb:  I try to take the KISS method - and this seems to function properly.  :)
[17:02] <cronik> and set it to be whatever you want
[17:02] <bkb> kubrickit-> you may have to boot from liveCD and mount the / partition and modify
[17:02] <rinaldi_> zim__:  i tend to just do "sudo ndiswrapper -i" and then drag and drop the .inf file into terminal
[17:03] <bkb> gnurph69-> kiss to me is ssh then launch gnome-session
[17:03] <cronik> yea bhut i dont think you can del the driver from the directory once u install it
[17:03] <bkb> no fooling around with xdmcp settings
[17:03] <cronik> but*
[17:03] <zim__> rinaldi "installing mrv8000c ..." ".../windows xp$"
[17:03] <Kloss> bazhang: no. did not work. the same error. :(
[17:03] <cronik> bkb
[17:03] <bkb> gnurph69-> and having ssh, make it secure'er, workable across the internet too
[17:03] <kubrickit> bkb: thanks
[17:04] <tinman> I have a little problem with nmap, much googling show that others have had this problem but no solution -> error  http://pastebin.ca/884839
[17:04] <rinaldi_> zim__: you selected the .inf file right?
[17:04] <cronik> you can do that but the sound will not work
[17:04] <g0tcha> hey guys, with ubuntu 7.10, i changed the port of the ssh and did a portforward on my router, i can ssh to it localy but not from outside my network, anyone can help me with that?
[17:04] <zim__> rinaldi yeah
[17:04] <gnurph69> bkb:  lol - to each his own.  Security not an issue.  Now to a different problem:  I'm trying to set up an internal SNORT box; any ideas on how to get SNORT to fire automagically upon bootup?
[17:04] <bkb> cronik-> nothing new, sound seems to be very problematic in linux anyways
[17:04] <cronik> set it up  in session
[17:04] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: do you know who can helpme?? :)
[17:04] <cronik> gnurph69:
[17:04] <rinaldi_> zim__: ok good, now do ndiswrapper -l to make sure that the driver is installed and it detects the hardware
[17:05] <DRebellion> sl_new_guy: i think you should explain your problem more thoroughly
[17:05] <cronik> set it up in session
[17:05] <cronik> bkb
[17:05] <cronik> yes you are right
[17:05] <g0tcha> anyone?
[17:05] <bkb> gnurph69-> read up on SNORT and then look into rc.local or init.d
[17:05] <cronik> but that is not a linux issue,blame all the hardware dev that dont make linux drivers
[17:05] <zim__> rinaldi: mrv8000c : driver installed <line> device (11AB:1FAA) present
[17:06] <gnurph69> bkb:  doing that now.  SNORT dox assume a fair understanding of linux to begin with, so I'm at a slight disadvantage, but c'est la vie...been here before.
[17:06] <bkb> gnurph69-> what do you have in your desktop that requires such powerful tools?
[17:06] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: ok, what i need is have installed the ntfs-3g, ok?
[17:07] <rinaldi_> "ls /etc/ndiswrapper " should return just "mrv8000c " and "ls /etc/ndiswrapper/mrv8000c " should return "11AB:1FAA.5.conf  mrv8000c.inf  mrv8000c.sys "  make sure theyre all there
[17:07] <MohammadBoozary> hi all
[17:07] <cronik> hi and welcome
[17:07] <MohammadBoozary> how to can i install persian spell checker in ubuntu ?
[17:07] <Hellow> Welcome
[17:07] <cronik> for Open office?
[17:07] <MohammadBoozary> tnx :)
[17:07] <MohammadBoozary> yeah
[17:08] <Hellow> Its a plugin or language file
[17:08] <Hellow> i think
[17:08] <crimsun> MohammadBoozary: System>Preferences>Language..
[17:08] <cronik> have you try looking for it in synaptic
[17:08] <zim__> rinaldi: yep, just those three too, I am guessing the problem lies in that I had .conf files?  one with an a and one with a b in there last time
[17:08] <cronik> i dont think you can set it up in OPen office like that
[17:08] <Hellow> It would be better to look for it on the O.O. web page
[17:08] <MidasWS> How to i copy all the contents of a certain dir (incl. sub-dirs) to another dir which is on a level below in SHH?
[17:08] <cronik> you have to download the lenguage pack for open office
[17:08] <gnurph69> bkb:  I'm setting up a SNORT box for internal monitoring on a remote network (across a tunnel already, so it's local for all intents and purposes); init.d is used for typical daemon packages, no?  Ergo, that's the right place to start SNORT automatically.  rc.local modifies local runlevels, if I understand correctly, and not the best way to do this.
[17:09] <cronik> ex (cp *.* /my/dir)
[17:09] <Hellow> I tried to setup a server for a star trek game called Netrek but DaemonII wouldnt start
[17:09] <rinaldi_> zim__: possibly yes, now to bring up these drivers type "sudo depmod -a " and then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it may take a few seconds
[17:09] <DRebellion> MidasWS: cp -r * ../mydir
[17:09] <MohammadBoozary> crimsun: how ?
[17:10] <cronik> yea
[17:10] <chung> can anyone tell me why everytime i try to shut down and it says fail to shut down?
[17:10] <cronik> 4got about the -r
[17:10] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion:but for install it i shout to install "fuse utils"
[17:10] <DRebellion> cronik: that is not helpful
[17:10] <gnurph69> bkb:  wait, I have that wrong.  init.d is the directory *if* a service has an entry there.
[17:10] <krabador> hey people, i've kubuntu gutsy and an audio problem, can you help me?
[17:10] <samad909> i have lost sound completely, using audigy value card
[17:10] <zim__> rinaldi: should anything appear when I do this?  depmod took a second and mod probe took a very short time and returned me to the command prompt
[17:10] <Suicidal_Failure> MohammadBoozary: language-support-fa is a meta package for farsi support
[17:10] <cronik> dont you have to include the -r for directorys ?
[17:10] <Hellow> chung: is there a specific error code that it puts out when that message shows up?
[17:10] <rinaldi_> zim__: no output = good
[17:11] <chung> i'm not sure
[17:11] <zim__> rinaldi: allright
[17:11] <DRebellion> sl_new_guy: sudo apt-get install fuse-utils
[17:11] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: so for do that i need to set those variables
[17:11] <Kibbles> anyone feel like a bit of mentorship?
[17:11] <chung> Hellow : i'm not sure whether it has an error code that auto puts in
[17:11] <rinaldi_> zim__: do iwconfig . this should give you output on wlan0
[17:12] <chung> it just doesn't shut down for any reason
[17:12] <Suicidal_Failure> MohammadBoozary: or just install myspell-fa
[17:12] <Hellow> To anyone: is there a log file that ubuntu makes when it shuts down??
[17:12] <zim__> yes, it gives me the same output I entered before (unless im not noticing some change) but I dont really feel like typing it out again
[17:12] <MohammadBoozary> Suicidal_Failure: after install it, i have spell checker for farsi ?
[17:12] <Suicidal_Failure> yes
[17:12] <rinaldi_> zim__: its ok. now did you say you were using wpa security?
[17:13] <Suicidal_Failure> Kibbles: mentorship?
[17:13] <krabador> why some times audio starts, sometimes (many many times...) don't? (i've 3 soundcard, i set my soundblaster  live as default, but nothing......the same thing before....)
[17:13] <Kibbles> Suicidal_Failure: yes.
[17:13] <krabador> can you help me?
[17:13] <Arelis> !flash
[17:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[17:13] <mohbana> hi guys i need some help
[17:13] <Hellow> chung: if there is a shutdown log file then it will probably tell why it failed to shut down
[17:13] <chung> it always fails to shut down
[17:13] <Hellow> Yes, and it will probably tell why
[17:13] <cronik> please do not install gnash
[17:13] <Suicidal_Failure> Kibbles: you want mentoring or wish to mentor someone?
[17:13] <zim__> rinaldi: yeah.  I would turn it off because every guide I read said to try that first to make sure everything works out allrgiht, but that causes me more problems than it is worth since there are many windows comps connected to it and they all freak out if I change settings for passwords (last time I did that it took 1.5 days works to get them all going again)
[17:14] <Kibbles> Suicidal_Failure: door #1
[17:14] <mohbana> i am having problems with audio for some reason after i restarted yesterday i didn't get audio back again. please help, where do i begin?
[17:14] <Suicidal_Failure> Kibbles: and whats the problem?
[17:14] <chung> i'll try to find out the error code for you if you want me to and then we can sort this problem out
[17:14] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: exactly, then "the fuse utils package needs to be reinstalled, but i can't find an archive f or it"
[17:14] <cronik> mohban:
[17:14] <Hellow> chung: ok
[17:14] <Kibbles> Suicidal_Failure: join #kibbles?
[17:14] <cronik> do you have a laptop
[17:14] <cronik> ?
[17:15] <Darksouled> Hi! Do any of you have any experience with Geany?
[17:15] <chung> for now i have to go
[17:15] <rinaldi_> zim__: hmm ok because im not sure about iwconfig and wpa but we can give it a try. do gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:15] <DRebellion> !info fuse-utils | sl_new_guy
[17:15] <ubotu> sl_new_guy: fuse-utils (source: fuse): Filesystem in USErspace (utilities). In component main, is standard. Version 2.7.0-1ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 148 kB
[17:15] <Hellow> chung: bye
[17:15] <mohbana> cronik, no i don't please prefix your message with my name my irc flashes that way
[17:15] <krabador> some audio expert call me in pv, please
[17:16] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: what that mean??
[17:16] <jimb0> Hey guys I run ubuntu gutsy on my Acer Ferrari laptop.  At the moment I have dual screen setup working well (samsung 22" flatscreen and 15" laptop screen) i have now got a dell 19" crt i want to hook up and dual tripple screen.  basically my graphics card is a at radeon x700 128mb, i have vga, dvi, s-video outputs.  The dvi is hooked to the flatscreen, the vga is in the crt and the laptop screen dunno what that uses.   How w
[17:16] <jimb0> ould i go about making the extra vga screen work as a third screen (Extension to the desktop) ?
[17:16] <rinaldi_> zim__: then add a record like this http://nopaste.org/p/aJtk3wGVR
[17:16] <zim__> rinaldi: "the program 'gksudo' is currently not installed.  you can install it by typing sudo apt-get install gksu" but the apt-get requires net doesnt it?
[17:17] <Hellow> Is it worth upgrading Ubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10?
[17:17] <DRebellion> sl_new_guy: it is in the 'main' repository.
[17:17] <cyth> why is my desktop blank?
[17:17] <b4l74z4r> when i stream radio with rhythmbox, it soesn't update the artist/track info
[17:17] <cyth> :<
[17:17] <mohbana> i am having problems with audio for some reason after i restarted yesterday i didn't get audio back again. please help, where do i begin?
[17:17] <DRebellion> Hellow: of course!
[17:18] <krabador> mohbana:
[17:18] <Hellow> DRebellion: what is the difference between the two?
[17:18] <krabador> mohbana: your number of soundcards?
[17:18] <gnurph69> hmm...how do I find a file from a command prompt?
[17:18] <DRebellion> Hellow: 7.10 is improved in every way.
[17:18] <rinaldi_> zim__: if this doenst work you will probably have to work from your wpa_supplicant tutorial now that you have the right files in the ndiswrapper folder, but we can give a try
[17:18] <samad909> i am using audigy value and i have lost sound completely all of a sudden, help me
[17:19] <DRebellion> gnurph69: ls | grep     or     find      or     locate  .....
[17:19] <Hellow> Brb going to check out this 7.10 disk that i got
[17:19] <mohbana> krabador, i have onboard sound and sound card and a mic on the monitor on the monitor but should'nt be a issue becuase it initially worked fine until yesterday
[17:19] <b4l74z4r> 7.04 had a rabid taskbar
[17:19] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: do you know some body who can write in Spanish??
[17:19] <zim__> so at this point I just need to follow the wpa supplicant again and make sure its all in place and then try connecting again?
[17:19] <DRebellion> !es | sl_new_guy
[17:19] <ubotu> sl_new_guy: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:19] <krabador> mohbana: sudo asoundconf list
[17:20] <zim__> rinaldi:i kind of have to go
[17:20] <unicum> is anyone actually reading this - need to ask, because i've not received any answers lately
[17:20] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion:tank you
[17:20] <sl_new_guy> DRebellion: good bye
[17:20] <selim> hi, can someone help me to get a gui based pptp vpn connection working? I've already tried it with network-manager-pptp and kvpnc but both give me some strange modem hang ups when I use the connections settings I've already tried successfully on a windows client
[17:20] <gnurph69> DRebellion:  got it.  thank you.  I seem to be .... not making loads of progress here.
[17:20] <luckyone> hello, I am getting ready to build a new machine to replace my current desktop - is there any documentation regarding what I must do to properly move my home server
[17:20] <rinaldi_> zim__: yes thats about it, give wpa supplicant a try
[17:21] <DRebellion> luckyone: home server?
[17:21] <mohbana> krabador, http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/579
[17:22] <luckyone> DRebellion: I am an idiot - sorry typed what someone else was saying... My home directory
[17:22] <kidem> hey im using Firefox and flash isnt working....whats the deal?
[17:22] <krabador> mohbana: sudo asoundconf set-default-card "yourchoose"
[17:22] <rinaldi_> zim__: also before you go to make the drievr saved for startup use sudo ndiswrapper -m
[17:22] <kidem> this is new install
[17:22] <luckyone> DRebellion: I want to basically copy my entire system to the new machine
[17:23] <zim__> rinaldi:ok, hopefully it works.  thankyou very much for your help.  I will try to finish it next time I am able to get at my computer.  are you one of the people who are constantly in this chatroom and would you like an update as to whether or not it worked when one is available?  also, what does ndiswrapper -m do for me?
[17:23] <luckyone> DRebellion: which is probably possible, but I am also going to be upgrading to 64-bit
[17:23] <zim__> rinaldi: and should I do that now or after it has connected and worked?
[17:23] <DRebellion> luckyone: well, your home directory should be easy. just copy it across
[17:23] <unicum> oh well, i shall just ask again: is there a gui for lftp or else.. how can i tell gftp not to encrypt the data channel in an encrypted connection?
[17:23] <mohbana> krabador, THANKS!!!!!!! ALOT!!!!!!!
[17:23] <krabador> mohbana: you must restart your system many times for watching if it works or not
[17:23] <rinaldi_> zim__: ndiswrapper -m make the driver permanent so that you dont have to do that modprobe thing every time
[17:24] <brobostigon> luckyone: copy /etc too
[17:24] <mohbana> krabador, again thanks!!!
[17:24] <rinaldi_> zim_: i am in here often, so give me an update when you're done!
[17:24] <mohbana> krabador, i don't know what changed it
[17:24] <krabador> mohbana: nothing :)
[17:24] <fitztrev> Is getdeb.net a trusted source for downloads?  I just got a package from there and am not sure.
[17:25] <kidem> Anyone? I thought i installed flash,...but its not working...did i miss something
[17:25] <Ette> !flash
[17:25] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[17:25] <zim__> rinaldi: ah ok, so I could do that now (before I forget or whatnot)  thanks again.  I will probably be back sometime around 7:00 pm us central time (when my class ends)
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kidem: How did you install it
[17:25] <Darksouled> kidem: Do you have 64-bit cpu and 64-bit Ubuntu?
[17:25] <brobostigon> kidem: no you didnt miss anything, flash is tempoerily broken
[17:25] <kidem> the package manager.... gnash-mozilla
[17:25] <Ette> flash is broken
[17:26] <Ette> read the topic :3
[17:26] <rinaldi_> zim_ im in UK so its nearly 6pm for me!
[17:26] <GuySoft> hey all, i want to move the panel configuration between two identical ubuntu mechines, what folders are incharge of it?
[17:26] <kidem> so we cant use flash....WOW
[17:26] <Darksouled> seriously?
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> kidem: Sure you can, just follow the fix on the link
[17:26] <bkb> kidem-> am using flash, just downloaded it from adobe today, am on 7.10
[17:27] <zim__> rinaldi: module configuration already contains alias directive.  needs fixing?  I will be at my desk probably from 7 my time until 3 am my time (when I go to work) and possibly be in this forum the whole time if it doesnt work
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> kidem: I am using it here as well
[17:27] <kidem>  /msg ubotu flashissues
[17:27] <rinaldi_> zim_ no that output is fine btw
[17:28] <zim__> rinaldi:working at 3 am is why i am supposed to be sleeping now (11:30)   anyways, im off.  see you again sometime in the future.
[17:28] <mohbana> krabador, ive lost my preview when i put the mouse above the audio file any ideas?
[17:29] <mohbana> jimb0, i noticed that you said you are running an acer ferrari, i own that laptop i am thinkin of installing ubuntu on it aswell have you run into any issues?
[17:29] <edueb> how can i add startup programs via terminal?
[17:29] <dubbe> i write this on an acer ferrari!!! woho!
[17:29] <edueb> how can i add startup programs via terminal?
[17:30] <krabador> mohbana: mmm
[17:30] <unop> mohbana, i used to have an acer ferrari and ubuntu ran well on it, except for the innfrared and bluetooth (which could have been sorted out - but i never neeeded them)
[17:30] <arcticchill360> hey
[17:30] <mohbana> dubbe, which one? i have 4005 ive read there are issues with the effects is this true?
[17:30] <DRebellion> edueb: use bum
[17:30] <chris34> hello all, does anyone know if its poss to install ati drivers for an eax1600pro card on ubuntu 7.10
[17:30] <DRebellion> !info bum | edueb
[17:30] <ubotu> edueb: bum (source: bum): graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.10-1 (gutsy), package size 82 kB, installed size 532 kB
[17:30] <cyth> i want blue tooth to make my own wii controlled games, yay
[17:30] <alekcxjo> hello
[17:30] <DRebellion> edueb: wait that's gui, sorry
[17:30] <dubbe> mohbana: i have the 3400... the only prob is the wireless, but it works after some tweeking
[17:31] <edueb> DRebellion: i tried that but it has a gui
[17:31] <arcticchill360> heres a question im having trouble mounting my sec. NTFS HDD
[17:31] <arcticchill360> its on gusty
[17:31] <unop> DRebellion, he might want to add startup programs to the gnome-session - i dont think bum works there, does it?
[17:31] <alekcxjo> i've installed xubuntu, but the installation of grub did not success and now, when i lanch my computer, it writes "no operating system". what can i do?
[17:31] <unop> !grub | alekcxjo
[17:31] <ubotu> alekcxjo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:31] <edueb> DRebellion: i think that if i edit the rc*.d it modifies all the users
[17:32] <arcticchill360> has ne one tried the new KDE 4?
[17:32] <arcticchill360> its awsome
[17:32] <jaggy> how do i open .chm files ?
[17:32] <dubbe> arcticchill360:  I've tried it a couple of days, hated it and went back to gnome
[17:32] <unop> edueb, you should use bum or update-rc.d to do that tho
[17:32] <alekcxjo> ubotu and unop thanks. i know what is grub, but the problem it's that i can nothing write...
[17:32] <b4l74z4r> sometimes i have to type my password when i install progs thru add/remove and other times i don't, why is that?
[17:32] <mohbana> unop, do you have the 4000?
[17:32] <edueb> unop: can i use bum via terminal?
[17:32] <jaggy> b4l74z4r, sometimes our already root, sometimes not :p
[17:33] <b4l74z4r> i see
[17:33] <unop> mohbana, errm, i dont have the ferrarri now, i think it was something like the 3000+ (or something like that)
[17:33] <chris34> does any1 know how to install ati drivers ?
[17:33] <jaggy> how do i open .chm files ?
[17:33] <b4l74z4r> how long are you root after you have typed the password?
[17:33] <dubbe> mohbana: try!
[17:33] <chris34> 15min default
[17:33] <cheesypieces> hello there, does anyone have any idea how to forward ports in ubuntu?
[17:33] <jaggy> b4l74z4r, euh i think it was 15 min , not sure :s
[17:33] <jimb0> mohbana, works perfectly
[17:33] <b4l74z4r> ok, thnx
[17:33] <cheesypieces> its been done on the router but still not coming through
[17:33] <gnurph69> jaggy:  from Synaptic, search for CHM and install a compressed HTML reader.
[17:33] <mohbana> jimb0, which version do you have?
[17:34] <nareshov> Hey, I noticed that double-tap and scrolling works out of the box on touchpads, howcome?
[17:34] <jaggy> ty gnurph69
[17:34] <unop> jaggy, install gnochm
[17:34] <nareshov> Especially when there are no special lines for synaptics on xorg.conf
[17:34] <jimb0> mohbana, 40000
[17:34] <alekcxjo> !grub
[17:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:34] <MrObvious> nareshov: Because drivers are improving?
[17:34] <jaggy> ok unop thnx
[17:34] <jimb0> -0
[17:35] <nareshov> MrObvious: howcome I don't get the same thing on debian-testing :\
[17:35] <unicum> okay, i'll ask another way: which programs except kftpgrabber and iglooftpPRO support non encrypted data channels in an encrypted connection???
[17:35] <mohbana> jimb0, did you run into any problems especially with the wireless, gfx card and effects, sound and if you have a link to a site which you used can you please give it
[17:35] <MrObvious> nareshov: Because Ubuntu is better? lol j/k
[17:35] <nareshov> :D
[17:35] <cheesypieces> hello there, does anyone have any idea how to forward ports in ubuntu? They've been forwarded on my router but they still seem to be blocked
[17:35] <jimb0> nopoe
[17:36] <MrObvious> nareshov: Maybe because there's a big userbase for Ubuntu and they can make specific things like that work. One thing I noticed from 7.04 to 7.10 is they added support for bcm43xx-fwcutter and NVidia 8xxx series cards through the restricted drivers manager. I think because of the huge userbase they can find what the users need and code it in appropriately. Talk about one smart set of developers. :D
[17:37] <julian7> #cmh@irc.worldnet.net
[17:38] <mohbana> what does everyone  think of font rendering with Evince Document Viewer 2.20.1 it not as clear as adobe
[17:38] <zionpsyfer> cheesypieces: If you're positive that everything else is working, try installing 'firestarter'
[17:39] <zionpsyfer> mohbana: It's indistinguishable from acrobat for me on the sheets my work sends out for inventories
[17:39] <samad909> my sound is not working, using audigy value card
[17:39] <_moro_bana_> anyone know a network client for chat
[17:40] <zionpsyfer> _moro_bana_: You mean something like AIM or MSN?
[17:40] <chris34> has any1 experience with ati drivers in ubuntu 7.10
[17:40] <rsk> chris34: _many_
[17:41] <Tyczek> is there something to backup system partition into image? ( i tested g4l and id won't work)
[17:41] <_moro_bana_> zionpsyfer: no for a local network
[17:42] <chris34> hi rsk, i need help getting my eax1600pro card to work
[17:42] <zionpsyfer> Tyczek: using the right flags, tar can work for quick and dirty.  Give me a second and I'll look up something else..  IIRC, google or some other big name recently released a tool similar to the one in osX
[17:42] <zionpsyfer> _moro_bana_:  jabber perhaps?
[17:42] <langnesse> jj
[17:42] <rsk> chris34: what have you tried?
[17:42] <JFactor> Does anyone know how I can get my S-video to work on gutsy Hp dv9000
[17:43] <Tyczek> zionpsyfer, thanks
[17:43] <edueb> !info repositories
[17:43] <ubotu> Package repositories does not exist in gutsy
[17:44] <chris34> ok, tryed ristricted driver and the ati linux driver but none let me use 3d or dual screen
[17:44] <chris34> also tryed lots of forums "how tos"
[17:45] <ajricoveri> how can i put the linux logo on framebuffer??? i want it like knoppix boot (and gentoo)
[17:45] <tbuss> what is a easy to use app for converting a video_ts folder to flv?
[17:46] <proprietarysucks> ajricoveri: http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/courses/2004-April/001451.html
[17:46] <hotmonkeyluv> How can i see how much memory I have on my system?
[17:46] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: depends on your motherboard
[17:47] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: oh how can you see how much, sorry I misread
[17:47] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: free
[17:47] <P_Kable> I have a buggy player on youtube and others... anybody knows how to fix this ?
[17:47] <nareshov> did someone message me? screen+irssi scrolled it off
[17:47] <proprietarysucks> nareshov: type /lastlog nareshov and find out
[17:47] <nareshov> ah
[17:48] <hotmonkeyluv> proprietarysucks: so, how do it see it?
[17:48] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: free
[17:48] <Zagu> Hello , i have problem ... after installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop i'm having problems starting it now ... the screen is full of gibberish text and sometimes the laptop doesnt even start and sometimes it boots into linux and then starts to show gibberish again... i tried outputting the signal to an external monitor but then i got "Signal frequency is out of range" FH was...
[17:48] <ajricoveri> proprietarysucks: thx =)
[17:48] <Zagu> ...like 400 600 and etc all big numbers while FV stood calmly on 70 hz .... anyone can help?
[17:48] <nareshov> proprietarysucks: it scrolled past quickly
[17:48] <infbliss> is it possible to install IcedTea Java environment in ubuntu
[17:48] <infbliss> ?
[17:48] <proprietarysucks> nareshov: press page up lol...
[17:48] <nareshov> proprietarysucks: /lastlog | less didn't work
[17:48] <nareshov> ah
[17:48] <nareshov> nice
[17:48] <rsk> infbliss: sure but it's not supported
[17:48] <tbuss> what is a easy to use app for converting a video_ts folder to flv?
[17:49] <proprietarysucks> ajricoveri: understand?
[17:49] <infbliss> Jsk: thanks for the info
[17:49] <Leila> hotmonkeyluv:  try typing free in a command line
[17:49] <P_Kable> I have a buggy player on youtube and others... anybody knows how to fix this ?
[17:49] <samad909> help me with the sound please, i really need it :S
[17:49] <nareshov> MrObvious: you're right
[17:49] <P_Kable> oops
[17:49] <nareshov> probably
[17:49] <chhuang> test
[17:49] <proprietarysucks> tbuss: http://www.google.com/search?q=dvd+to+flv+linux
[17:50] <zig> hi all, I have a weird problem with "sudo", it asks the password and then hang, then cannot be killed with ctrl+c
[17:50] <Leila> P_Kable: try using VLC media player
[17:50] <hotmonkeyluv> proprietarysucks: oh, thanks!
[17:50] <unop> zig, how did you use sudo there?
[17:50] <MrObvious> nareshov: Obviously. :p
[17:50] <P_Kable> Leila, non I need to use firefox
[17:50] <zig> unop, in any way "sudo -s" for example to get a root shell
[17:51] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: also check out free -m for megabytes and free -g for gigabytes
[17:51] <zionpsyfer> Tyczek: Wow, that took a while.  The program I was thinking of is called FlyBack and is similar to Time Machine on OSX
[17:51] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: also you can run this command: cat /proc/meminfo for other memory information
[17:51] <bcardarella> If I need to logon as the user 'root' does Ubuntu have a password for that user or is it the same as the super user account that is created during installation?
[17:51] <Zagu> Hello , i have problem ... after installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop i'm having problems starting it now ... the screen is full of gibberish text and sometimes the laptop doesnt even start and sometimes it boots into linux and then starts to show gibberish again... i tried outputting the signal to an external monitor but then i got "Signal frequency is out of range" FH was...
[17:51] <Zagu> ...like 400 600 and etc all big numbers while FV stood calmly on 70 hz .... anyone can help?
[17:51] <dubbe_> anyone else but i having a hell trying to get digital sound output on a realtek onboard soundcard?
[17:51] <Tyczek> zionpsyfer, thank you, I'll try it ;)
[17:52] <proprietarysucks> Zagu: press ctrl-f2 when this happens
[17:52] <proprietarysucks> Zagu: ctrl-alt-f2 rather
[17:52] <raden> anyone know of a good linux calendar server software ?
[17:52] <unop> zig, hmm, you might want to repair sudo - but you need to become root first - does this work - gksu gnome-terminal ?
[17:52] <unop> bcardarella, use !sudo
[17:52] <Leila> samad909:  try this page
[17:52] <hotmonkeyluv> proprietarysucks: cool, I didn't know about all that (obviously). Thanks for the help!
[17:52] <zionpsyfer> Tyczek: Anytime. =)
[17:52] <Leila> http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[17:52] <samad909> Leila: paste
[17:52] <bcardarella> unop: this is for configuring SWAT. It requires me to logon as root
[17:52] <zig> unop, what do you mean by repair sudo ? reinstall it ?
[17:52] <proprietarysucks> hotmonkeyluv: what else would you like to know how to do ? =]
[17:52] <samad909> Leila: thanks and brb
[17:52] <Zagu> proprietarysucks: i pressed it and i get gibberish there too
[17:53] <unop> bcardarella, by default root is prevented from logging on the machine, sudo allows you to become root temporarily - but it asks for your password not root's
[17:53] <proprietarysucks> Zagu: try ctrl-alt-f3 or f4 or f1
[17:53] <Zagu> proprietarysucks: tried all the ttys
[17:53] <unop> zig, aye, reinstall
[17:53] <hotmonkeyluv> proprietarysucks: how do i hack into the cia mainframe?
[17:53] <The_entropy> hello everyone, I'm currently on ubuntu feisty, I'm trying to install a newer version of gstreamer than is available in the repos
[17:53] <samad909> Leila: no avail, already tried allthat
[17:53] <samad909> Leila: no avail, already tried all that
[17:53] <The_entropy> is there any way to use the gutsy repositories instead
[17:53] <proprietarysucks> Zagu: sounds like you have a bad media, did you perform the disk check before installation
[17:53] <The_entropy> and would have cause problems?
[17:53] <samad909> Leila: i just tried changing devices and sound went off so i changed it back and it does not work anymore
[17:53] <Zagu> proprietarysucks: no but the thing is now even windows or linux live cds wont work ....
[17:54] <zionpsyfer> Tyczek: Oh, before you go.  http://bernaz.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/flyback-a-time-machine-backup-utility-for-linux/
[17:54] <unop> bcardarella,  sudo -s  - presents you with a root shell
[17:54] <unop> zig, any joy?
[17:54] <alecs> hi
[17:54] <xTheGoat121x> proprietarysucks, is there a way to display the contents of a "cat" command graphically?
[17:54] <Tyczek> zionpsyfer, ok ;)
[17:54] <JediMaster> Does anyone know if it's possible to force BIND on a secondary name server to update from the primary?
[17:54] <alecs> i have some questions... and need help
[17:55] <proprietarysucks> xTheGoat121x: what do you mean? like a text editor?
[17:55] <proprietarysucks> alecs: yes?
[17:55] <The_entropy> alecs, what's the question, just ask
[17:55] <kidem> (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)  <<< whats this mean??
[17:55] <strausss> i've got a problem running my CPU fan in ubuntu 7.10
[17:55] <Rytmis> Having the weirdest issue: optical drive bay won't open. It tries a couple of times and then gives up. Tried pressing the eject button and sudo eject /dev/hdc on cmdline.
[17:55] <Zagu> So anyone had problems with signal frequency after installing Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:55] <DRebellion> Rytmis: have you unmounted it?
[17:55] <Rytmis> I read that there's a lockdoor=0 parameter I can give to the cdrom module, but I can't find a reference to it in /etc/modprobe.d so I don't know where to put it
[17:55] <Zagu> It's like it messed up the video card or smthgn
[17:56] <xTheGoat121x> proprietarysucks, well, I was thinking more along the lines of on a panel or something.  My wireless light doesn't turn on when I use Ubuntu, and there are times I need to know whether it's on or not.
[17:56] <Rytmis> DRebellion: ah sorry, forgot to say: no disc inside.
[17:56] <strausss> my system log is flooded with messages telling me ACPI: Unable to turn cooling fan 'xxxxxxxxx' 'on'
[17:56] <alecs> @ jedimaster http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/xfer.html
[17:56] <Rytmis> also, eject works fine before booting the kernel
[17:56] <unop> kidem, that could mean anything - you'd have to look into the context of the error to try and understand what it means
[17:56] <xTheGoat121x> proprietarysucks, and going into terminal and typing  "cat /proc/acpi/acer/wireless" can get tedious
[17:56] <Rytmis> and it works if there's a disc inside, but it's a tad hard to *get* a disc inside when the drive won't open :P
[17:56] <Leila> samad909: try typing alsaconf in a command line and redo alsa
[17:56] <proprietarysucks> xTheGoat121x: make a shortcut to it...
[17:56] <CCleaner> I'd like to get an eggdrop up and running on mIRC from my system. How do I do this?
[17:57] <DRebellion> xTheGoat121x: make a launcher with that command and set your terminal profile to stay open after command exits.
[17:57] <Rytmis> dmesg says "irq timeout, status 0xd0 { busy }"
[17:57] <kidem> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail
[17:57] <Rytmis> also, "ide: failed opcode was: unknown"
[17:57] <xTheGoat121x> Yeah, that's true.
[17:57] <Rytmis> This was not a problem in Feisty.
[17:57] <unop> kidem, you probably did not use sudo with that command - prefix a sudo
[17:57] <samad909> Leila: a sec
[17:58] <Rytmis> or I could JFGI.. sigh.
[17:58] <The_entropy> other than the fact that the gutsy repositories have newer version of software, is there any radical difference between the feisty and the gutsy repositories?
[17:58] <zig> unop, in fact I was wrong, sudo hangs even before asking for the password, I'd say it's more a problem with authentification
[17:58] <DRebellion> The_entropy: newer == improved
[17:58] <The_entropy> would downloading packages from the newer repository cause problems?
[17:58] <tyranos> hi
[17:58] <Pitel> any bluetooth guru here?
[17:58] <DRebellion> The_entropy: if you're not running gutsy, then yes.
[17:58] <The_entropy> I'm on feisty but I want a version of a package that's only available in gutsy
[17:58] <xTheGoat121x> Rytmis, JFGI?
[17:58] <tyranos> how can i know y my linux crashed ?????
[17:58] <The_entropy> why would it cause problems?
[17:59] <Rytmis> nvm I think I found the proper place, booting to test
[17:59] <Rytmis> xTheGoat121x: Just frigging Google it
[17:59] <Rytmis> xTheGoat121x: ;)
[17:59] <alecs> well i need to make a script to edit my routes
[17:59] <unop> zig, if it hangs before even asking/taking a password - then it's probably a problem with sudo itself, if it were a problem with authentication, you're more likey to see it hang after taking the password
[17:59] <Rytmis> xTheGoat121x: which is what I did, and this time it seems I found the proper thing to do.
[17:59] <DRebellion> The_entropy: because the packages are designed for gutsy. stop making excuses not to upgrade and just do it.
[17:59] <unop> zig, anyway, does gksu work?
[17:59] <donald_> Pitel: just ask
[17:59] <alecs> i am moving my laptop through 3 networks
[17:59] <xTheGoat121x> Rytmis, ahhhh LOL
[17:59] <zig> unop, I don't have gksu installed in fact
[17:59] <Assid> gksu acts stupid at times
[17:59] <The_entropy> DRebellion, I'll upgrade when I manage to completly **** everything up
[18:00] <The_entropy> we'll see if this does it
[18:00] <Assid> oops
[18:00] <alecs> and each net has custom setting ....
[18:00] <The_entropy> added the gutsy repos to sources.list
[18:00] <DRebellion> The_entropy: try, sudo cat /dev/random > /dev/sda1
[18:00] <zionpsyfer> lol
[18:00] <Arnaud___> Bonjour !
[18:00] <proprietarysucks> tyranos: can you please not give so much information? you've practically solved the mystery yourself
[18:00] <xobius> The_entropy, it can broke depends tree
[18:00] <Flughafen> how can i get either brasero or gnomebaker to burn .m4a files?
[18:00] <Arnaud___> j'ai un problème avec mon wifi
[18:01] <DRebellion> !fr | Arnaud___
[18:01] <ubotu> Arnaud___: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:01] <Arnaud___> excusez moi
[18:01] <The_entropy> Arnaud___, en anglais :)
[18:01] <Arnaud___> bye !
[18:01] <DRebellion> Arnaud___: ce n'est pas un probleme ;)
[18:01] <tyranos> proprietary sucks , actually i want to know if there is a file that gives me information on what lead my computer to shutdown
[18:01] <Pitel> donald_: 2 problems... 1st: I've greyed out "device class" list in bluetooth-applet, so I can't say my computer is computer (i dont; know, maybe it;s only "cosmetic"), 2nd... how to share my computer internet connection with my mobil? I've read something about pand and bnep, but nothing works.
[18:01] <andres99977> Hello.I need to help.
[18:02] <Flughafen> how can i get either brasero or gnomebaker to burn .m4a files?
[18:02] <proprietarysucks> tyranos: you don't have to type my name out, just type propri(tab)
[18:02] <donald_> Pitel: too advanced for me. i dont use BT for that
[18:02] <proprietarysucks> tyranos: the directory /var/log has much information
[18:02] <unicum> i cannot quit asking until someone at least answers with a "don't know" or something. is there a gui for lftp or can i get my gftp not to encrypt the data channel in an encrypted connection?
[18:02] <tyranos> proprietarysucks, i m in there right now ,
[18:03] <tyranos> looking for some txt files
[18:03] <Animator> join #redmine
[18:03] <Flughafen> how can i get either brasero or gnomebaker to burn .m4a files?
[18:04] <Zagu> Hello , i have problem ... after installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop i'm having problems starting it now ... the screen is full of gibberish text and sometimes the laptop doesnt even start and sometimes it boots into linux and then starts to show gibberish again... i tried outputting the signal to an external monitor but then i got "Signal frequency is out of range" FH was...
[18:04] <Zagu> ...like 400 600 and etc all big numbers while FV stood calmly on 70 hz .... anyone can help?
[18:04] <proprietarysucks> Flughafen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141716
[18:04] <zig> unop, I don't have gksu, any other idea ?
[18:05] <Flughafen> proprietarysucks, thanks
[18:05] <The_entropy> DRebellion, I will upgrade when I get some free time but it really doesn't make sense(at least not to me) to upgrade every 6months because you want newer packages for some librairies
[18:05] <proprietarysucks> Zagu: ssh into your box and setup the xorg.conf
[18:05] <Leila> Flughafen: If you have the universe & multiverse repositories enabled, the packages you are after are: gstreamer0.8-plugins-universe & gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse. Together, they cover pretty much everything that can be played. You might also want gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg - I'm not sure whether that's pulled in by -plugins-universe or -plugins-multiverse.
[18:05] <flyinghippo> I'm planning on getting a Dell (don't say anything) AMD64 Laptop, and I'm wondering if Ubuntu 64 will give me any troubles with drivers or compatibility.
[18:05] <Flughafen> leila, thanks
[18:05] <DRebellion> The_entropy: come on its not hard, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:05] <proprietarysucks> Leila: I sent him the link
[18:05] <Leila> Zagu: Try a reinstall.
[18:05] <donald_> The_entropy : Use Debian then, they are slower to release
[18:06] <The_entropy> DRebellion, from what I hear that isn't exactly optimal
[18:06] <d0lph1nK1ng> I LOVE UBUNTU!!!
[18:06] <proprietarysucks> try gentoo, they don't have releases
[18:06] <DRebellion> The_entropy: well, if you don't have time....
[18:06] <The_entropy> donald_, and as such don't have newer packages in their repos
[18:06] <asizemore> hello ubuntu
[18:06] <The_entropy> DRebellion, yes but I still want stuff to work
[18:06] <CCleaner> How do I install an eggdrop on my ubuntu 7.10 ? "have downloaded the eggdrop"
[18:06] <andres99977> I have a ploblem with the graphic card.I use kubuntu.I installed with live-cd in graphic mode but when I restart.I can't use kubuntu.Safe mode only no graphic mode.
[18:06] <TangentBuntu> I need to know why my vsftpd is giving me this error
[18:06] <Zagu> Thank You and Good Bye
[18:07] <donald_> The_entropy : u want new packages but u dont want regular releases??
[18:07] <Yonie> does anyone here know how to use ip tables?
[18:07] <DRebellion> !anyone | Yonie
[18:07] <ubotu> Yonie: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:07] <donald_> flyinghippo : some stuff wont work well on AMD64 like flash and such
[18:07] <tyranos>  proprietarysucks  , i need to know where to look , which file contains crash information in /var/log/     , because the shutdowns are random , i dont know when it happens . so it s hard to know what caused it in first place
[18:08] <The_entropy> donald_, you don't understand, I don't want to have to reinstall the OS every time I need new packages
[18:08] <proprietarysucks> try gentoo
[18:08] <TangentBuntu> why does ftpd say 500 OOPS: missing value in config file for: anon_root /home/ftp/
[18:08] <The_entropy> proprietarysucks, I might
[18:08] <donald_> The_entropy : apt-get dist-upgrade to the new release. keep /home separate. works all the time for me
[18:09] <Yonie> ok... well im trying to route a connection to a proxy, apparently i can use iptables
[18:09] <The_entropy> donald_, if by seperate you mean on a different partition, it already is
[18:09] <Leila> tyranos: Maybe it is a hardware problem like power or memory.
[18:09] <donald_> The_entropy : so what breaks?
[18:09] <The_entropy> donald_, didn't try it yet, but from what I've heard it's not reliable, and it's not reversable
[18:10] <The_entropy> so I didn't want to take the chance
[18:10] <tyranos> leila: well it happens when too much is going on and at 100 % cpu usage
[18:10] <sigg345> can anyone help me install these drivers on my OS?
[18:10] <The_entropy> I guess I'll try it in a couple of days though, I'll be home for a while once I'm done with my finals
[18:11] <DRebellion> sigg345: as long as your os is ubuntu ;)
[18:11] <sigg345> no it's fedora 8 lol
[18:11] <sigg345> =(
[18:11] <nickrud> The_entropy: reliable it is (as long as you're running ubuntu packages, not crappy 3d party packages), reverseable not
[18:11] <donald_> The_entropy : it may not be reversable but i havent seen it unreliable.
[18:11] <whochismo> Good evening, may anyone help me with crontab? i've scheduled a command, but it didn't work, and I don't know why. I'm using the version 7.10
[18:11] <johnficca> how do I install ndiswrapper for 64 bit Ubuntu? I was told to look in the debain folder for control.modules but there is no debian folder and no control.modules file. What should I do?
[18:11] <sigg345> i have ati drivers for my video card but I'm not sure how to install them :(
[18:11] <The_entropy> nickrud, donald_ well I guess I'll try it then
[18:11] <balbir_> I want to use virtualization in ubuntu.. can some one suggest
[18:11] <sigg345> ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run is the file name
[18:11] <TangentBuntu> sigg345: there's a fedora/redhat channel
[18:11] <whochismo> balbir_: use vmware-server, it's free
[18:12] <TangentBuntu> iirc
[18:12] <sigg345> ok i'll try there
[18:12] <whochismo> help using crontab anyone?
[18:12] <The_entropy> nickrud, I have some things built from source installed, though I made them into debs so they should be easy to remove from the package manager should they give trouble
[18:12] <nickrud> The_entropy: did you use envy? or automatix? If so, upgrade is unreliable. Disable any 3d party repos, and probably you should remove any third party stuff you have installed
[18:12] <donald_> whochismo : what abt crontab?
[18:12] <nickrud> The_entropy: remove them first
[18:12] <balbir_> whochismo: for ubuntu how to download/configure
[18:12] <HorizonXP> hey, somehow i got 2 icons on my desktop when i connected my external drive; any idea how to remove one of them?
[18:12] <andres99977> Help me I have a ati radeon 2600pro graphic card.My kubuntu installed in graphic mode but when I restart it don't start.
[18:12] <The_entropy> nickrud, would something like exaile give trouble?
[18:12] <DRebellion> HorizonXP: move the mountpoints outside of /media
[18:12] <The_entropy> nickrud, and no I don't use envy or automatix
[18:12] <nickrud> The_entropy: nearly every case where people have problems have to do with poorly made debs, and checkinstall is notorious for it
[18:13] <unop_> zig, sorry, i was lagging -- are you a kde user?
[18:13] <whochismo> help using crontab any1?
[18:13] <TangentBuntu> I don't think there's a package called vmware-server
[18:13] <donald_> balbir_ virtualbox
[18:13] <zig> unop_, yes, it's kubuntu
[18:13] <The_entropy> nickrud, not poorly made deb, built using dpkg-buildpackage using a debian/ directory provided with the source(not self made or anything)
[18:13] <nickrud> add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server
[18:13] <The_entropy> nickrud, looked pretty good
[18:14] <faclon> Is there a way to install ubuntu studio them on a different distribution for example debian?
[18:14] <whochismo> balbir_:  you can download the vmware-server installer from their website
[18:14] <nickrud> The_entropy: ah, sounds much better :) but I personally would remove it, ymmv
[18:14] <usedandrejected> hi people
[18:14] <donald_> whochismo : what abt crontab?
[18:14] <usedandrejected> i've a trouble
[18:14] <whochismo> donald_: abt?
[18:14] <whochismo> oh
[18:14] <nickrud> TangentBuntu: add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server
[18:14] <unop_> zig, i think the kde equivalent is kdesu
[18:14] <_Roman> Hello, can anyone help me, I am using Ubuntu 7.10, I have just upgraded my graphics card from am ATI X300 to an ATI Radeon 3850.  I installed the latest catalyst drivers from ATI.  But there now seems to be no 3d support and compiz performance in terrible.
[18:14] <whochismo> donald_: i scheduled a command, but it didn't execute, and i don't know why
[18:15] <TangentBuntu> okay, nickrud my bad
[18:15] <donald_> what does crontab -e say?
[18:15] <usedandrejected> i wish copy my lost <7home with an ubuntu live cd
[18:15] <unop_> whochismo, check your mail
[18:15] <TangentBuntu> nickrud, do you know anything about vsftpd?
[18:15] <nickrud> TangentBuntu: you ain't the only one, that's why I have that as a text replace :)
[18:15] <whochismo> oh, ok
[18:15] <nickrud> TangentBuntu: no, I've never used it
[18:15] <usedandrejected> after a bios upgrade, i cannoot acced to my datas
[18:15] <unop_> !kdesu
[18:15] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[18:15] <satrianito> hey.... what is up?
[18:15] <The_entropy> nickrud, I have 1700 packages installed, is there any way to filter them to see which ones were not from the ubuntu repos?
[18:15] <zig> unop_, ok there is, but it doesn't work either
[18:15] <Rytmis> meh, no, lockdoor=0 doesn't seem to help
[18:15] <unop_> zig, how are you using kdesu?
[18:15] <whochismo> unop_: i don't have the "mail" command installed
[18:16] <usedandrejected> but after had mounted /dev/sda4 in /mnt/home
[18:16] <The_entropy> nickrud, (using synaptic, but wouldn't mind using the terminal if needed)
[18:16] <HorizonXP> DRebellion: I tried doing that in the volume properties, but it gives me the error about the mount point not allowed having a newline character
[18:16] <donald_> The_entropy : Synaptic Package manager
[18:16] <usedandrejected> i cannot rad my datas for an user-trouble
[18:16] <zig> unop_, in fact, there were a bunch of kdesu processes, I killed, then, then sudo asked me the password once, then it hanged again, now it doesn't ask for the password again
[18:16] <unop_> whochismo, you can use anything you like -- essentially, you want to read /var/mail/$USER to find out why your job failed
[18:16] <DRebellion> HorizonXP: then don't put a newline (return) in
[18:16] <TangentBuntu> I need someone to tell me what to do with my ftpd server, it tells me this error message and I don't know what it means. it's error 500 500 OOPS: missing value in config file for: anon_root /home/ftp/
[18:16] <usedandrejected> i've also used mount -rw
[18:16] <nickrud> The_entropy: remove any sources other than ubuntu from sources.list , update, then check the Installed (local or obsolete) under the status button
[18:16] <usedandrejected> but without no gain
[18:16] <unop_> zig, how are you using kdesu?
[18:16] <usedandrejected> any idea?
[18:16] <The_entropy> nickrud, okay, cool
[18:16] <HorizonXP> DRebellion: I didn't, it's pointing to /My Book
[18:17] <zig> unop_, "kdesu somecommand"
[18:17] <DRebellion> HorizonXP: it should be /My\ Book
[18:17] <ogre> hey guys. when I'm downloading stuff overnight almost half of the time when i wake up I am no longer connected. it has something to do with network manager I believe. has anyone else heard of this problem?
[18:17] <lionstone> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 64 and having some major issues- i had an auto fsck when i booted up, which found errors and i fixed them manually. now i'm booted into ubuntu, but firefox won't run nor will synaptic, but everything else seems to be fine. what can i do?
[18:17] <lionstone> synaptic gives a core dump
[18:17] <HorizonXP> DRebellion: no dice
[18:17] <lionstone> and firefox does nothing at all- i type firefox into terminal and don't even get a core dump
[18:17] <HorizonXP> DRebellion: where am I setting this anyway?
[18:18] <donald_> lionstone : apt-get install --reinstall synaptic firefox
[18:18] <unop_> zig, the only thing i can think of then is to reboot into recovery mode and repair sudo with - apt-get install --reinstall sudo kdesu
[18:18] <lionstone> thanx donald_
[18:18] <DRebellion> HorizonXP: just mount it on cmd line. connect it up, then   sudo umount /media/<drive> && sudo mount /dev/<drive> <pathtomount>
[18:18] <The_entropy> nickrud, hmmm 23 packages in there, once I've upgraded it'd be safe to reinclude those sources and reinstall, right?
[18:18] <HorizonXP> DRebellion: right now i'm right-clicking on the icon that i have, going Properties, Volume tab, then under Setting, typing in the Mount Point field "/My\ Book/
[18:18] <TangentBuntu> it would be really nice to have my ftp server running by the time my class grades me on it
[18:18] <unop_> lionstone, reinstall firefox and synaptic maybe?  sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox synaptic
[18:18] <lionstone> donald_  I get "Reading package lists...Done...", then it segfaults
[18:19] <ogre> lionstone:  why dont u run another fsck as well
[18:19] <lionstone> cool
[18:19] <lionstone> thanks everyone
[18:19] <Kibbles> zionpsyfer: sorry 'bout earlier
[18:19] <DRebellion> HorizonXP: also, you might want to mount it in /mnt
[18:19] <TangentBuntu> argh
[18:19] <zig> unop_, ah , the thing is that I didn't try to reboot yet, I'd like to not reboot if possible, but I'll try to find a solution, thanks for your help
[18:19] <TangentBuntu> this is agrivating
[18:19] <nickrud> The_entropy: I'd give it a case by case thing, some might be in the newer release.
[18:19] <donald_> pkgdb corrupted?
[18:19] <donald_> oh dear
[18:19] <TangentBuntu> does ANYONE know how to use vsftpd?
[18:19] <cbeaver> Evening
[18:19] <lionstone> ogre- how do i unmount the filesystem?
[18:20] <TangentBuntu> that IS an important question, don't refer me to ubotu
[18:20] <donald_> tangentbuntu : ages ago i used it. man vsftpd helps
[18:20] <The_entropy> nickrud, hmmm, well there's only a couple of them I need, others I installed at the time but don't need anymore
[18:20] <nickrud> The_entropy: but thats the right procedure, cutting back to ubuntu, upgrading then adding the outside again. Be sure to check for the proper release from the outside as well
[18:20] <ogre> lionstone:  sudo umount -a
[18:20] <lionstone> thanks
[18:20] <The_entropy> nickrud, and most of those packages I manually installed because I wanted newer versions than the repos
[18:20] <unop_> zig, you could try logging out and logging back in - or drop down into a virtual terminal and try the same
[18:20] <The_entropy> nickrud, chances are they'll just be there
[18:21] <nickrud> The_entropy: true, and you obviously know how to re-add safely
[18:21] <TangentBuntu> donald_: man vsftpd didn't tell me anything
[18:21] <ogre> hey guys. when I'm downloading stuff overnight almost half of the time when i wake up I am no longer connected. it has something to do with network manager I believe. has anyone else heard of this problem?
[18:21] <andrewssss> Hi, I have the following problem: SD harddisk has Ubuntu, HD harddisk has XP. When I deactivate from bios SD, HD boots directly into windows, when I leave both I get to grub and when I deactivate HD, I get an error that sounds like "can't find boot loader"
[18:21] <lionstone> ogre- i run sudo umount -a and it says device is busy and won't unmount it...
[18:21] <andrewssss> how can I make ubuntu boot if I don't have HD enabled ?
[18:22] <usedandrejected> hi people
[18:22] <donald_> andrewssss : install grub on both HDD
[18:22] <zionpsyfer> Kibbles: No worries, sorry for going AFK in your channel. =P
[18:22] <usedandrejected> how i can read and write my datas after a boot with a live cd?
[18:22] <xTheGoat121x> It seems that Ubuntu is loading ATA drivers for my HDD, not SATA like I thought...
[18:23] <usedandrejected> i've used also mount -rw, but ubuntu says that i'va not enough persmissions to do it
[18:23] <andrewssss> but then I lose the Windows boot manager and I can't get into windows
[18:23] <DRebellion> usedandrejected: prefix with sudo
[18:23] <bkb> usedandrejected-> you have to mount the partition where your data is
[18:23] <usedandrejected> ys done
[18:23] <usedandrejected> but the same
[18:23] <ogre> ogre:  you can run the command by booting into safemode I think. not entirely sure. let me look it up
[18:23] <usedandrejected> i've mounted how mount -rw
[18:23] <usedandrejected> but also they are not accessible
[18:23] <bkb> !who | usedandrejected
[18:23] <ubotu> usedandrejected: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[18:23] <lionstone> awesome, thanks ogre
[18:24] <cbeaver> I'm in trouble, I talked an office into switching from XP to Ubuntu 7.10. Everything works like a dream, except connecting to their mail host's pop3 server ( Cyrus) it connects fine, authenticates, but doesn't like the ack from Cyrus and times out. I tried connecting to my own pop3 server ( Dovecot ) no problems. HELP :)
[18:24] <DRebellion> usedandrejected: what do you mean by "not accesible"?
[18:24] <ogre> lionstone:  let me look around for you a bit first
[18:24] <lionstone> hey thanks so much!!!
[18:24] <RancidLM> hey all im looking for suggestions.. i want to do some LAMP dev work but don't wanna install php/apache/mysql on my system is there way to do this in a free VM ?
[18:24] <usedandrejected> that nautilus said that i cannote read the folders for a trouble of permissions
[18:25] <usedandrejected> and, in the same way, i cannot copy them
[18:25] <DRebellion> !vm | RancidLM
[18:25] <ubotu> RancidLM: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[18:25] <cbeaver> anyone ?
[18:25] <usedandrejected> Permission denied is the leitmotiv
[18:25] <usedandrejected> any idea?
[18:26] <xTheGoat121x> Any clue why ubuntu is loading ATA driver for my SATA drive?
[18:26] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver: I've no experience with cyrus at all.  Have you confirmed this issue on various comps?
[18:26] <usedandrejected> maybe a "protection" dued to selinux or similar systems?
[18:27] <ogre> lionstone:  see good thing I looked. it says to run fsck off a live disk. u can put in yr ubuntu install cd and do that. here is the page I'm looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546258
[18:27] <nickrud> !uuid | xTheGoat121x see the link
[18:27] <bkb> usedandrejected-> you have to respond with a prefix of my nick.. what have you done to mount the partition?
[18:27] <ubotu> xTheGoat121x see the link: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[18:28] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer: any windows box connects just fine
[18:28] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, ooops, if you posted that earlier, sorry I missed it.
[18:28] <cbeaver> and I can connect to other pop3 servers not running Cyrus
[18:28] <frojnd> When I try to run lkl I do sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/dock/lkl/us_km -o /usr/share/doc/lkl/loglkl.txt and in return I get: Started to log port 0x60. Keymap is /usr/share/dock/lkl/us_km. The logfile is /usr/share/doc/lkl/loglkl.txt. unable to find keymap-file: No such file or directory a keymap is required!! run lkl with -k <keymap>  What's with this keymap ??
[18:28] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x: nope, just sat back down from a cigarette break. <back to work ...>
[18:28] <usedandrejected> bkb im testing also using sudo nautilus
[18:28] <usedandrejected> but without no results
[18:29] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver:  Indeed, and you've tested that multiple linux clients all fail?  Do you have access to the cyrus server?  can you see what errors it's spewing to the logs?
[18:29] <bkb> usedandrejected-> you have to respond with a prefix of my nick.. or your messages will be missed
[18:29] <usedandrejected> i've mount like -rw
[18:29] <donald_> how to respond to one nick without typing the nick itself?
[18:29] <usedandrejected> bkd i said that i've used mount -rw
[18:29] <fiXXXerMet> I had a 61GB log created last night, by accident.  I just deleted it, and my disk usage is still at 100%, because of the log file...  Where does rm put it?
[18:29] <lionstone> ogre- right on, thanks for the advice!
[18:29] <bkb> donald_-> you can not, you have to specify
[18:29] <usedandrejected> but without no results
[18:30] <K_Nine> _Roman: Try running glxgears in a command line to see what your frame rate is.
[18:30] <donald_> long nicks dont help
[18:30] <Achoth__> Hello. I'm trying to get a widescreen resolution on Ubuntu, but there is no such option. Is it possible to use widescreen resoultions, or manually enter the resolution wanted (1680x1050)?
[18:30] <balbir_> any tool to add service in the runlevel
[18:31] <js_> is it still possible to upgrade from breézy?
[18:31] <usedandrejected> maybe taht i've found a solution
[18:31] <js_> using apt
[18:31] <DRebellion> donald_: use the tab key
[18:31] <balbir_> I need equivalent of redhat's chkconfig
[18:31] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer: all clients fail, I even telnet'ed to the the server, got connected fine, user accepted, pass accepted, but 'list' gave me nothing. I don't have shell access to the Curys server, but I had them on the phone all day and he tail'ed my attempts
[18:31] <ogre> lionstone:  no problem
[18:31] <usedandrejected> using a "sudoed nautilus" to copy data trhough the partitions
[18:31] <donald_> aaaaahhhh
[18:32] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer: Cyrus kept sending 'ack' but ubuntu didn't reply, almost firewall like behavior, in a block kinda manner
[18:32] <donald_> tab then what?
[18:32] <donald_> crap
[18:33] <bkb> cbeaver-> do you have firewall enabled on your box maybe?
[18:33] <usedandrejected> ok thanks
[18:33] <usedandrejected> i'll go out
[18:33] <usedandrejected> see you later
[18:33] <DRebellion> !tab | donald_
[18:33] <cbeaver> iptables -L -vn gave me *everything open*
[18:33] <ubotu> donald_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[18:33] <usedandrejected> bors
[18:33] <usedandrejected> bros
[18:34] <bkb> balbir_-> man update-rc.d
[18:34] <whochismo> again, does anybody know why crontab doesn't works in ubuntu? (by editing /etc/crontab)
[18:34] <BlackAuron> hi guys, I have a little problem. I'm trying to compile wesnoth from source code, but when i give ./configure i've a missing library error. the problem is that i've the library ( and the respective -dev version) installed ... http://rafb.net/p/Nks6Qx67.html here you can see the log and dpkg -l list. can someone help me? i can't understand what's the problem..
[18:34] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer: looks like there isn't a firewall installed by default
[18:34] <bkb> cbeaver you can setup netcat to monitor what your box is sending and the response it is getting
[18:34] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver: you checked the firewall settings either via iptables or firestarter?
[18:34] <donald_> now i got it
[18:34] <xobius> Achoth__, did you do dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[18:34] <cbeaver> iptables
[18:35] <Achoth__> xobius, no, but I will now :)
[18:35] <mado> so ...
[18:35] <mado> da bin ich wieder ...
[18:35] <donald_> DRebellion: now i get it
[18:35] <whochismo> crontab any1?
[18:35] <cbeaver> I have no problems connection through port 110 to other pop3 servers
[18:35] <DRebellion> !de | mado
[18:35] <ubotu> mado: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:35] <mado> ich habe mit hilfe von kate ... http://linux.frankenberger.at/Huawei_E220.html ... das erzeugt
[18:35] <yonie>  hey guys, im trying to manage 2 connections very specifically, the one connection is my adsl throught my NIC, the other is a usb modem, for the first part i want to make my adsl do everything
[18:35] <xobius> Achoth__, , because I do it and detect the new resolution
[18:36] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, that really didn't offer much for me.
[18:36] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer: is firestarter installed and running by default installation ?
[18:36] <DRebellion> BlackAuron: read the README, you can probably specify the location of libsdl manually.
[18:36] <donald_> whochismo: why edit /etc/crontab for your own jobs. use crontab -e
[18:36] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver: No, synaptic/apt-get/aptitude will have it though.
[18:36] <Achoth__> xobius, oh yeah, I tried it, but the very many choices scared me
[18:37] <Achoth__> xobius, what should I choose?
[18:37] <cbeaver> zionpsyfer; ya, but there's no fw atm
[18:37] <_moro_bana_> my ubuntu cant load, its givin an error,  i can only through safe mode what might be the prb
[18:37] <xobius> Achoth__, what question do?
[18:37] <bkb> cbeaver  check this  http://www.stearns.org/doc/nc-intro.current.htm  <-- see the tcp proxy setup near bottom to monitor your system response
[18:37] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver: It's basically a gui for iptables.  netcat is a good suggestion as well.  Monitor what your box is seeing.
[18:37] <BlackAuron> DRebellion: no, i cant: the only output of ./configure --help | grep libsdl is a disablesdl-test or something like that
[18:37] <cbeaver> something is blocking Cyrus's ack msg
[18:37] <cbeaver> I think
[18:37] <DRebellion> cbeaver: use wireshark to check
[18:38] <cbeaver> DRebellion: do elaborate
[18:38] <cbeaver> :)
[18:38] <Achoth__> xobius, The very first: "Driver for X-server", there are many choices like tdfx,tga,tseng,vesa... vesa is already marked
[18:38] <xTheGoat121x> I've been googling and forum-ing... and it seems that my SATA drive is not set properly in Ubuntu.
[18:38] <xobius> Achoth__, what vcard have you got?
[18:38] <vehicle> anyone familiar with gwenview?
[18:38] <DRebellion> cbeaver: wireshark will "sniff" every packet off the wire and display it in as much technical detail as you want, great for someone like you who obviously understands tcp syn/ack etc.
[18:39] <Achoth__> xobius, vcard=GFX? ATi x1950pro 256mb.
[18:39] <jtt> can anyone tell me how to convert a .jpg to .odg so I can alter it thanks
[18:39] <donald_> xTheGoat121x: can u change SATA mode in BIOS?
[18:39] <xobius> Achoth__, select vesa
[18:39]  * chisefu skips
[18:40] <cbeaver> I really need this to work and fast, as I'm close to selling the idea of scrapping ~150 windows workstations, and replace them with Ubuntu 7.10 :)
[18:40] <xTheGoat121x> donald_, it's definitely not an issue in the BIOS
[18:40] <misieq> how can i install jdk 6u3 with java-package? it says no matching plugin found, although jre 6u3 has installed flawlessly
[18:40] <cbeaver> That would be such a victory :p
[18:40] <xobius> Achoth__, Vesa don't use a resolution > 1024x960
[18:40] <DRebellion> cbeaver: i think this will help you debug the connection and acks ;)  just,  sudo apt-get install wireshark . its gui
[18:40] <donald_> xTheGoat121x: try to set SATA to Compatibility mode and see if ubuntu boots
[18:40] <Achoth__> xobius. Done, but there is still no option for 1680x1050
[18:41] <cbeaver> DRebellion: I'll give it a go :)
[18:41] <xobius> Achoth__, you should install the Ati driver
[18:41] <xTheGoat121x> donald_, it boots fine, I'm in Ubuntu right now.  The issue is with the speeds.
[18:41] <cbeaver> " I'll be back! " ( spoken witjh a terrible austrian accent )
[18:41] <cbeaver> :)
[18:41] <cbeaver> thx for input guys
[18:41] <vehicle> anyone know a good program to look at the exif settings for jpg's?
[18:42] <Achoth__> xobius, I have already done that
[18:42] <DRebellion> cbeaver: heh, no problem.
[18:42] <zionpsyfer> cbeaver: Good luck with it!  Hope you figure it out and sell the idea. =)
[18:42] <adelie42> ok, got a weird problem.... and hope someone has some idea of what I am talking about. I have a new computer behind a firewall that uses mac address filtering. the computer still gets an IP address, but isn't allowed to make outgoing connections. however, it does not disallow other computers to connect to it, so I used the machine next to it, which is white listed, and was able to bind a port on the blocked machine to the ssh port on my computer at home. 
[18:43] <kbrooks> !usplash
[18:43] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[18:43] <misieq> how can i install jdk 6u3 with java-package? it says no matching plugin found, although jre 6u3 has installed flawlessly
[18:43] <rwohleb> Does anyone know why EXT3 would be corrupted within minutes of install and data copy on a software RAID5? This is on Gutsy.
[18:44] <rodolfo> hey guys. I am running into problems when trying to install guifications. I've searched for libnotify, libpurple, guifications and all related -dev packages on synaptic and installed them all. everything runs fine after the './configure' command, but when i type make and hit enter, this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54084/
[18:44] <adelie42> rwohleb: because you can't run an OS on a software RAID. Were is the driver?  :)
[18:44] <xobius> Achoth__, I don't know Ati VCard, but  why use vesa driver?
[18:44] <kbrooks> rodolfo, why are you compoiling guifications
[18:44] <adelie42> rwohleb: and btw, promise raid cards are software raids too  :) had this problem myself
[18:45] <Achoth__> xobius, I have no idea, I am a beginner
[18:45] <rwohleb> adelie42: I've done it before. The /boot is on a software RAID 1 so grub can see it. Only the root fs is on RAID 5.
[18:45] <xobius> Achoth__, wait me a moment. I will search
[18:45] <rodolfo> kbrooks: excuse me?
[18:45] <_moro_bana_> my ubuntu on one box cant load, it gives me a BIOS -thing error but safemode goes
[18:45] <kbrooks> rodolfo, why are you compiling guifications
[18:45] <kbrooks> !compile > rodolfo
[18:45] <adelie42> rwohleb: you had the same setup with fiesty?
[18:46] <kbrooks> !latest | rodolfo
[18:46] <ubotu> rodolfo: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[18:46] <rodolfo> kbrooks: because the file (itself) tells me to do that
[18:46] <kbrooks> rodolfo, not a reason to do that
[18:46] <K_Nine> jtt can you do that with the Gimp?
[18:46] <stefg> rodolfo: just a generic tip: sudo apt-get build build-dep pidgin-guifications should take care that al building requirements are met
[18:46] <_moro_bana_> !compile
[18:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:46] <kbrooks> rodolfo, there is a package:
[18:47] <kbrooks> !info pidgin-guifications | rodolfo
[18:47] <ubotu> rodolfo: pidgin-guifications (source: guifications): toaster popups for pidgin. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.14-3 (gutsy), package size 157 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[18:48] <kbrooks> rodolfo, use it instead of compiling
[18:48] <xobius> Achoth__, look at this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide  , on the end
[18:48] <rodolfo> kbrooks: you mean that there is a deb and -ready-to-install vesion of it on the universal repo?
[18:49] <Achoth__> xobius, will do, thanks
[18:49] <xobius> Achoth__, at  Monitor detection (1680x1050 Resolution Issue)
[18:49] <kbrooks> rodolfo, i gave you the package name
[18:49] <noodlesgc> are there any torrent accelerators? like axel for torrents?
[18:49] <rwohleb> adelie42: I'm using a Rosewill RC-109 card with RAID functionality (fakeraid), but I'm not using it.
[18:49] <warchief_ryan> Hello, anyone know why the NetworkManager doesen't work over NX remote desktop?
[18:49] <kbrooks> rodolfo, and yes
[18:49] <maxownz> is IEs4Linux the best way to go about getting IE running with Wine?
[18:50] <rodolfo> kbrooks: hold on im checking this out
[18:50] <noodlesgc> kbrooks what package are you guys talking about?
[18:50] <Leila> kbrooks: I just installed IE 6.
[18:50] <bluefox83> maxownz, it works, but you can also try wine-doors, it has a built in native version of IE that you can install...it may or may not work better for you...
[18:50] <kbrooks> rodolfo, sudo apt-get install pidgin-guifications or go into synaptic andd search for that.
[18:51] <rodolfo> kbrooks: but I already have...
[18:51] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/people/amazing-music-made-just-with-drinking-glasses/ wooow
[18:51] <kbrooks> rodolfo, so what's wrong?
[18:51] <rodolfo> kbrooks: all this time trying to get it installed myself and it is available [pidgin plugins] >_<
[18:52] <warchief_ryan> Anyone used NX?
[18:52] <rodolfo> stefg, kbrooks: bleh...thank you guys =]
[18:52] <kbrooks> rodolfo, search for a package in the ubuntu repos first (enable all non-developer repos from software sources), if not there try getdeb
[18:53] <Leila> Is there any way to set this up so you just read messages and not everytime somone joins or exits?
[18:53] <noodlesgc> leila what client?
[18:53] <rodolfo> kbrooks: yup. i will from now on x_x
[18:53] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: can i disturb u for a sec
[18:53] <kbrooks> Leila, yes:
[18:54] <Leila> Xchat
[18:54] <Leila> Gnome XChat
[18:54] <kbrooks> Leila, sorry?
[18:55] <johnficca> I need help trying to get my realtek rtl8185L wireless card working they have a driver on there web site but I just don't know how to install it. help please.
[18:55] <CoasterMaster> Does anyone here happen to know if there's a program for Ubuntu that will minimize logic tables?
[18:55] <jamiejackson> is there a way to print screen (screen shot/capture) into the clipboard (like windows)? someone on the forums recommends ksnapshot, but wondering if there's a native (gnomey) way to do it
[18:55] <brobostigon> !compile | johnficca
[18:55] <ubotu> johnficca: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:55] <kbrooks> brobostigon, wrong person
[18:55] <Leila> Can I set up XChat Gnome not to read log in/out?
[18:55] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_: yes?
[18:55] <brobostigon> sorry
[18:55] <bluefox83> jamiejackson, same way as windows...
[18:56] <kbrooks> Leila, ill look
[18:56] <noodlesgc> jamiejackson, try ctrl+prntscrn
[18:56] <sayers> jamiejackson, just press printscreen
[18:56] <jtt> anyone know how to convert a .jpg to .odg so i can alter the original image
[18:56] <noodlesgc> jamiejackson and alt+prntscrn
[18:56] <DRebellion> jtt: can you not just alter jpg?
[18:56] <bluefox83> jtt, open in gimp, re-save as .odg
[18:56] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: thnks, my ubuntu cant load ,only via safe mode, it gives me bios-error
[18:57] <DRebellion> :/ what's the error?
[18:57] <jtt> DRebellion, what product would i use  oo
[18:57] <jtt> Blue-
[18:57] <maxownz> where can i find tips on minimizing the RAM Ubuntu uses? my little monitor says 55% is being used by cache and 44% by programs. I have 512mb RAM installed
[18:57] <jtt> bluefox83, thanks never thought of that
[18:57] <fx|RabBit> hi guys! if you had 4 sataII hdds with 500gig each would you span a raid 5 via linux sophtware raid, or via anboard controller (if recognized by ubuntu) or via a pciX slot contorller?
[18:58] <DRebellion> jtt: gimp
[18:58] <kimmey2k3> Is the adobe flash package still broken?
[18:58] <jtt> thanks guys for the gimp info
[18:58] <DRebellion> !brokenflash | kimmey2k3
[18:58] <ubotu> kimmey2k3: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:58] <bkb> maxownz-> umm..if you minimize the usage of ram, what will you do with the remaining?
[18:58] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/100
[18:58] <DRebellion> kimmey2k3: apparently, will be fixed for hardy (8.04)
[18:58] <Leila> jamiejackson: I have take snapshot in accessories.
[18:58] <ordinary> hello world
[18:58] <bluefox83> fx|RabBit, whichever is easiest for you...
[18:59] <Flats> If I mount a ubuntu.iso in Ubuntu, what would I use to start the installer?
[18:59] <kimmey2k3> Then ill just have to wait
[18:59] <fx|RabBit> maxownz: linux in contrary to windows allways reservers all of the ram typically and frees it when needed
[18:59] <bkb> kimmey2k3-> which ubuntu version do you have? i downloaded and installed one today for 7.10 32bit, it works
[18:59] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: BIOS BUG :timer not connected to.....
[18:59] <kimmey2k3> 7.10
[18:59] <DRebellion> Flats: you have to burn the iso to disk and boot of it
[18:59] <jamiejackson> bluefox83, sayers: that's what works on windows, but not ubuntu, it wants to save it down as png (not the clipboard). noodlesgc: ctrl-prntscrn seems to do nothing
[18:59] <kimmey2k3> same as you
[18:59] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: personally, i saty away from hardware solutions unless I have a good backup system. I don't like to be locked to a chipset/manufacturer.
[18:59] <fx|RabBit> bluefox83:  well that would be the method that provides the fastest working solution gg
[18:59] <Flats> damn, no way to install from a mounted iso?
[18:59] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion:kernel panic
[18:59] <maxownz> fx|RabBit: so don't worry about the monitor?
[18:59] <ordinary> where are you people from?
[18:59] <bkb> !who | kimmey2k3
[18:59] <ubotu> kimmey2k3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[18:59] <kimmey2k3> I had it a month ago and FF get damn slow when i browse sites with flash. So ill pass
[18:59] <maxownz> ordinary: USA
[19:00] <ordinary> i live in austria
[19:00] <kbrooks> !java
[19:00] <noodlesgc> ordinary USA, Ohio
[19:00] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[19:00] <DRebellion> !install > Flats (maybe some other options?)
[19:00] <sayers> jamiejackson, oh I just saved it then click and drag it into open office
[19:00] <jamiejackson> Leila: i think this is just a slower way to do alt-prntscrn and prntscrn (same interface in the end, no clipboard)
[19:00] <fx|RabBit> maxownz: exactly
[19:00] <anathaniel> hi there any Ubuntu enthusiasts from Bangalore?
[19:00] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: africa
[19:00] <sayers> jamiejackson, alt-printscreen only does that window
[19:00] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb:  well raid 5 actually ought to be backuped enuff XD
[19:01] <ordinary> i want to connect to an other server but i dont want to be disconnected from the ubuntu server
[19:01] <ordinary> can somebody help me?
[19:01] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_: I don't have any idea how to help, sorry.
[19:01] <bkb> sayers alt+printscreen works for me to capture current screen
[19:01] <Jasmin_> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/100
[19:01] <fx|RabBit> are there any disadvantages in the various mehtods to span a raid5?
[19:01] <fx|RabBit> lets say sophtware raid or pciX slot card is slower
[19:01] <fx|RabBit> or in contrary is faster?
[19:01] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: At home, I can't afford backup solutions for 1 TB. With a hardware RAID card, if it fries I have to find a compatible replacement. That could be bad.
[19:02] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: thank you, mabe its the bootloader
[19:02] <noodlesgc> ordinary where are you from?
[19:02] <cheesypieces> does anyone know how to make xchat gnome join a certain channel on startup?
[19:02] <ordinary> i live in austria
[19:02] <bkb> ordinary-> you wan to connect to another server? what is the issue?
[19:02] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: fair enuff, what if your sophtware raid renders inaccessibel?
[19:02] <lionstone> ogre- ran fsck with touch /forcefsck, it ran fine, but things are still messed
[19:02] <kbrooks> I wantn to entirely remove Java. How do I do that?
[19:02] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_: i would ask again later, someone may be around that can help.
[19:02] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: on modern hardware, you take very little hit with software RAID.
[19:02] <jamiejackson> hi sayers, thanks, but i know how the save to png stuff works, and i know how to save to the clipboard in windows. let me ask again: does anyone know how to save a screenshot into the clipboard (a la windows) in native ubuntu? (I'm not interested in saving to PNG, but thanks.)
[19:02] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: can you just rebuidl it like that?
[19:02] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: do you need help
[19:03] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: ok
[19:03] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: hmkay i see that ought not be a problem, got fast cpu and much ram
[19:03] <blackvd> anyone in here no the channel for screenlets support?
[19:03] <ordinary> yes moro, i do
[19:03] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: If I have a 3 disk software RAID 5, and one fails, I can shut down, replace the bad drive, reboot, and resync the RAID set.
[19:03] <adelie42> anyone know how to forward audio from an X11 session over ssh? I get video, but evidently the audio is still played on the remote machine. :(
[19:03] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: what happens if your sophtware raid crashes can you rebuild that?
[19:04] <bkb> adelie42->  FREENX can do that
[19:04] <lionstone> hi, i ran fsck to fix some errors and now firefox and synaptic are broken (synaptic segfaults, firefox doesn't even get that far). what can i do???
[19:04] <ordinary> i want to change to de.quakeserver.net but i dont want to be disconnected from the ubuntu server
[19:04] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: lauch the client again it will use ur other nick
[19:05] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: Define crash. If 1 of 3 disks in a RAID 5 fails, no problem. More than that and you lose the RAID set. In any RAID implementation you can still get fs corruption without a disk failure.
[19:05] <lionstone> other programs run fine...
[19:05] <Leila> cheesypieces: X-Chat does that but not X-Chat Gnome
[19:05] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: if u r on xchat
[19:05] <ordinary> i am on xchat
[19:05] <ordinary> but i just use one nick
[19:05] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: not talking beout hardware failure, but of system problems
[19:05] <noodlesgc> lionstone, are you fsck is the cause of this?
[19:06] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: then fill in the 2nd
[19:06] <ordinary> where?
[19:06] <lionstone> noodlesgc- everything ran fine until i ran fsck, which found and corrected a bunch of errors, and now i have these problems...
[19:06] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: software raid as the name says is a sophtware that builds and manages your raid, so what if that sophtware gets f***ed up?
[19:06] <ordinary> i am such a newb (:
[19:06] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: if there is FS corruption, you'll run fsck like normal.
[19:06] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: lauch xchat u will see it
[19:06] <ordinary> you mean a second window?
[19:06] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: the Ubuntu alternate CD has software RAID tools
[19:06] <_moro_bana_> ordinary:yes
[19:07] <lionstone> noodlesgc- what can i do to troubleshoot / fix ?
[19:07] <edueb> how can i reinstall gnome?
[19:07] <ordinary> i see
[19:07] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: done
[19:07] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: hmkay i c, thx m8!
[19:07] <lionstone> noodlesgc: apt-get segfaults, too
[19:07] <cyzie> hi, i have a gigabyte board with intel chipset, how do i install the 3d driver for my builtin graphic card?
[19:07] <noodlesgc> lionstone, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic
[19:07] <ordinary> and how can i connect to an other server?
[19:07] <lionstone> cool, on it!
[19:07] <Meiner> hey i need your help, in my console there is no mor deb command
[19:07] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: it is crucial not to loose those data, if i do i am in serious trouble...
[19:08] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: np... I'm actually having a problem with software RAID at the moment... rapid FS corruption on a solid RAID set.
[19:08] <lionstone> noodlesgc- yep that fixed synaptic!
[19:08] <Tobias92> Hello ubuntu people. Quick question, anybody has good experience with the Hauppauge WinTV PCR-150 tv-card?
[19:08] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: and any clue yet what causes it to occur?
[19:08] <noodlesgc> linostone, awesome, do it to anything else thats broken
[19:08] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: The standard motto for RAID is "it's not a replacement for backups"
[19:09] <lionstone> cool, thanks noodlesgc! you're a lifesaver!!
[19:09] <noodlesgc> lionstone, np
[19:09] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: are u still ther
[19:10] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: not yet... mdadm doesn't report any problems, but I quickyl get EXT3 errors, the journal aborts, and the FS is remounted read only
[19:10] <thebigham> how do i install the 3d drivers for intel x3100 graphic card
[19:10] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: there is a list, click a server and connect, i guess u r done
[19:10] <noodlesgc> thebigham, what 3d drivers are you talking about?
[19:11] <thebigham> noodlesgc, someting to get compiz working
[19:11] <ordinary> most things on linux are more complicated than on windows *rolleyes*
[19:11] <thebigham> It doesnt work when i set the visual effects to normal
[19:12] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: more appropriate: click sever ,and fill in the channel name, thats it
[19:12] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: uhuh and then reboot with fsck?
[19:12] <brobostigon> ordinary: i am so used to unix, that windows is more complicted to me.
[19:13] <noodlesgc> thebigham, x3100 is blacklisted, you dont need drivers, you need to unblacklist it
[19:13] <ordinary> brobostigon (;
[19:13] <hyperactivecrond> does the main ubuntu.com use drupal for a cms?
[19:13] <riaal> If I unmount a SATA hdd while the system is running can I just unplug it?
[19:13] <greywhind> hello - i've got xinit permissions set to allow me to start a new xserver (e.g. for running a game), but when i start one and then later try to quit it, it refuses to be killed, even with kill -9. anyone know what could be wrong, or how to kill something that won't die to a kill -9?
[19:14] <Mudkipz> riaal, lolwut?
[19:14] <thebigham> noodlesgc, how do i unblack list it
[19:14] <zionpsyfer> ordinary: Open up xchat again (assuming you're using xchat-gnome) and connect that one to the server you want.
[19:14] <bkb> greywhind-> you have to disable it in the config file..an xinit daemon can not be killed easily
[19:14] <ordinary> when i open xchat again i connect again
[19:14] <hyperactivecrond> greywhind: ctrl-shift-backspace wont work?
[19:14] <riaal> Mudkipz: Can I unplug a SATA drive while the system is running? (aka as hotswap)
[19:14] <greywhind> bkb: can you go into more detail on that?
[19:14] <ordinary> i'm still here?
[19:15] <ordinary> yes!
[19:15] <Jupp3> Hey, still haven't found a solution for the annoying bug/feature in how ubuntu handles fat partitions...
[19:15] <_moro_bana_> zionpsyfer: he can click sever, join another channel, i think thats what he wants
[19:15] <ordinary> thx all
[19:15] <greywhind> hyperactivecrond: not, it just starts taking 100% processor and refuses to quit
[19:15] <noodlesgc> thebigham, first do this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506744
[19:15] <_moro_bana_> zionpsyfer: on the same window
[19:15] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: after a reboot, fsck find serious issues
[19:15] <phaedra> riaal, If it's eSATA yes...  Not internal though.
[19:15] <Jupp3> As I copy FILE.EXT to fat partition, it gets automatically renamed to file.ext, and I have absolutely no idea how to disable that annoying behavior
[19:15] <Mudkipz> yeah...
[19:15] <riaal> phaedra: okey, cheers
[19:15] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: sometimes fsck proper exits with odd error codes, and I have to fall back to running fsck.ext3 directly
[19:16] <br1anwarner> Jupp3: FAT has no awareness of capitalization in filenames, iirc
[19:16] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: But yet it preserves them
[19:16] <blackvd> I'm trying to install linux-686-smp or my dell inspiron 6400 but get this erro when running apt-get "Couldn't find package linux-686-smp"? what sources do i need to add? running 7.10.
[19:16] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: use peoples' nicks ,there is flood here
[19:16] <br1anwarner> jupp3: strange, eh?
[19:16] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: If I copy File.ext, it stays as File.ext
[19:16] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: It seems that only all upper names get automatically renamed
[19:16] <noodlesgc> thebigham then do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=674123
[19:16] <br1anwarner> jupp3: yep, true.  but if you cp FILE.ext into the same place, it'll nuke File.ext
[19:17] <br1anwarner> jupp3: ah, i see.
[19:17] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: sux... tryed checking for hw errors with vmstat and dstat?
[19:17] <ordinary> _moro_bana_: ok
[19:17] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: Yes, but the problem is, I have no idea how I can copy it as FILE.EXT
[19:17] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: eventually those are signs for a soon giving up hw...
[19:18] <br1anwarner> jupp3: hmm
[19:18] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: aha, didi u do it, prob solved?
[19:18] <linkslice> how would I make an iptables rule that only blocks mysql except from a few IP's?  (sorry super newb never used iptables before)
[19:18] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: Earlier I just wanted to separate some directories visually from each other (with all upper names), but didn't work
[19:18] <ordinary> _moro_bana_: i've done it, thanks a lot
[19:19] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: The RAID set reports all green, so it doesn 't seem to be the disks/controller.
[19:19] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: Worse yet, even if there shouldn't be separation between upper and lower cases when accessing files, some software actually DOES expect all upper names
[19:19] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: on the same window i guess
[19:19] <noodlesgc> thebigham this works too http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/Compiz_Fusion_965GM_Incompatibility
[19:19] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: sux... eventually those are signs for a soon giving up hw... tryed checking for hw errors with vmstat and dstat?
[19:19] <ordinary> _moro_bana_: no, on an second window
[19:20] <rwohleb> fx|RabBit: I'll do that now... waiting for fsck to complete
[19:20] <zionpsyfer> linkslice: Here's some good info: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/28/using-iptables-to-block-brute-force-attacks/
[19:20] <Star-Wars> Finally
[19:20] <Jupp3> br1anwarner: Which means that I currently just plug the same usb device to my MorphOS box and rename manually as they should be named, which obviously gets VERY annoying after a while, as that's something, that should imho work ootb
[19:20] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: YOU CAN ON THE SAME WINDOW
[19:20] <ogre> hey guys. when I'm downloading stuff overnight almost half of the time when i wake up I am no longer connected. it has something to do with network manager I believe. has anyone else heard of this problem?
[19:20] <br1anwarner> jupp3: very true.  I ran into that problem with wine a number of times
[19:20] <Star-Wars> Now
[19:20] <Star-Wars> Can ubuntu and Windows be ran on the same machine
[19:20] <jpatrick> !dualboot | Star-Wars
[19:20] <ubotu> Star-Wars: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[19:20] <DRebellion> Star-Wars: yes
[19:20] <greywhind> Star-Wars: yes.
[19:21] <jetscreamer> _moro_bana_: this IS #ubuntu
[19:21] <ordinary> _moro_bana_: i dont think so, there are no buttons like "server"
[19:21] <Jupp3> Star-Wars: If you have a CPU that can run windows, yes
[19:21] <Star-Wars> Thanks
[19:21] <Jupp3> Or are ok with emulation
[19:21] <Star-Wars> Now how hard was that D<
[19:21] <Star-Wars> Seveas.
[19:21] <noodlesgc> ogre, wireless or wired?
[19:22] <Star-Wars> grrfle
[19:22] <Seveas> Star-Wars, I wouldn't push it if I were you
[19:22] <Star-Wars> =/
[19:22] <dolphin_noel> urg this is crashing mewhen i'm try to open this whith gliv one single image :X
[19:22] <Star-Wars> I wasnt pushing
[19:22] <_moro_bana_> ordinary: there are: press f10 and use the left arrow 3 times
[19:22] <greywhind> bkb: still there? could you give me some more detail on what you mean?
[19:22] <bkb> greywhind-> I mis-read you, i thought you have xinet.d
[19:22] <Mace-Windu> =/
[19:23] <_moro_bana_> jetscreamer: im i doing something wrong
[19:23] <Tm_T> Mace-Windu: welcome
[19:23] <fx|RabBit> rwohleb: wish you success on that!:)
[19:23] <Mace-Windu> Tm_T: Thanks :D
[19:23]  * Mace-Windu shakes his cha cha cha
[19:23] <fx|RabBit> can anybody tell me how to find out what ram i have assembled without having to open the computer?
[19:23] <br1anwarner> jupp3: still searching
[19:23] <Mace-Windu> Ima quote basil on this: Ips are liek telephone #'s when u get a new one you have to deal with the crap the last one did with it.
[19:24] <greywhind> bkb: well... do you have any idea what i could do to kill an xserver started with something like xinit /home/greywhind/ioURT4.1/UrbanTerror/ioUrbanTerror.i386 $* -- :2 that refuses to die when it's told to quit?
[19:24] <Mace-Windu> Err Bash *
[19:24] <brobostigon> fx|RabBit: lshw will tell you
[19:24] <fx|RabBit> brobostigon: THX DUDE
[19:24] <_moro_bana_> jetscreamer he was trying to open another channel
[19:25] <bkb> greywhind-> restart the gdm,  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:25] <Syn-> i just installed the X-Fi beta drivers per a thread on ubuntuforums.org, and now all I am getting is loud static out of my speakers.  Is it even worth the time trying to get an X-fi sound card working right now?
[19:25] <blackvd> OK this is driving me nutts. apt cant find linux-686-smp which means I'm missing the repo. Does anyone know where i can find a list of gutsy repos?
[19:25] <bullgard4> What programming languages besides M4 require to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[19:25] <greywhind> bkb: i'll try that
[19:26] <noodlesgc> blackvd just go to System->Administration->Software Sources
[19:26] <crimsun> blackvd: that package is not relevant for gutsy.  Use -generic.
[19:26] <hugh> hey, I want to partition a 8G Hard Drive to install a linux OS, how to do that using fdisk? TIA
[19:26] <crimsun> blackvd: i.e., linux-generic
[19:27] <noodlesgc> hugh you could boot off a live cd and use gparted
[19:27] <bullgard4> "smbclient -L MD97600" functions. "smbclient -L Amilo7600" does not function: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" although smbtree shows it. How to get rid of this error message?
[19:27] <DRebellion> hugh: has it got any other o/s on?
[19:27] <Kaja> hugh, if you use cfdisk you know how to do it without help.
[19:27] <Jupp3> hugh: Can't you just boot from boot cd and use the partitioner from installer?
[19:27] <proprietarysucks> response overload
[19:27] <ogre> noodlesgc:  wireless
[19:27] <sarthor> I use to connect/ browsing my 9300i Nokia from xp via pcsute, What to do for this in Ubuntu??
[19:27] <hugh> noodle, what if I just can use fdisk
[19:27] <proprietarysucks> hugh: are you talking about windows' fdisk?
[19:27] <hugh> DRebelllion, nope, yet
[19:28] <DRebellion> hugh: just use the partitioner on the livecd during the install process
[19:28] <noodlesgc> ogre what brand card?
[19:28] <br1anwarner> jupp3: no luck.  i'm afraid I can't be of any help here.
[19:28] <blackvd> crimsun: I dont follow? I'm not finding anything from apt-get for linu-generic-smp?
[19:28] <proprietarysucks> hugh: you don't have to set it up before installing, the installer can take care of that
[19:28] <ogre> noodlesgc: intel ipw3945
[19:29] <Steve2922> Is there a way in open office to break the page into two haves with indidual scroll bars like you can in VIM or Word?
[19:29] <hugh> Drebellion, sorry to say that I'm trying LFS, but not Ubuntu, thsi is my first time using IRC, I don't know how to join LFS-Support at irc.linuxfromscratch.org   ;)
[19:29] <crimsun> blackvd: no, the package name you should use is noted above:  linux-generic.
[19:29] <Steve2922> halves*
[19:29] <noodlesgc> ogre, ogre thats the same card i am using now, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595060
[19:30] <DRebellion> hugh: what irc client are you using?
[19:30] <Steve2922> individual* (ok I'm gonna give up spelling)
[19:30] <hugh> Drebellion, gnome x chat
[19:30] <DRebellion> hugh: try typing /connect irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[19:30] <warrend> hi
[19:30] <jackdaw> hey, i downloaded some software and now i want to compile it but it doesn't have a configure file yet. Can anyone walk me through how to use: aclocal, autoconf etc to make it build?
[19:31] <miasme> ubuntu noob here, having trouble setting up my internet connection, where do i start? (the google did nothing)
[19:31] <hugh> tks DRebellion ;)
[19:31] <Vadi> What's the command to switch default java from icedtea to sun's?
[19:31] <usser> miasme: wired or wireless?
[19:31] <miasme> wired
[19:31] <_Drax> miasme, if you type "ifconfig" what does it say on ip adress?
[19:31] <DRebellion> jackdaw: so it doesn't have a file called 'configure' in the source tarball? if it has a makefile, just type 'make'. but read the README first.
[19:31] <miasme> 192.168.183.129
[19:32] <_Drax> so youre connected through a router ?
[19:32] <miasme> yep
[19:32] <jackdaw> DRebellion: nah we're looking at a: Makefile.am and Makefile.in situation
[19:32] <hugh> DRebellion, oops, there is only me in the LFS-support channel
[19:32] <sarthor> I use to connect/ browsing my 9300i Nokia from xp via pcsute, What to do for this in Ubuntu??
[19:32] <blackvd> crimsun: thanks! I'm gonna reboot and see if both procs are recognized
[19:32] <jackdaw> DRebellion: there's also a config.guess, a configure.in etc
[19:32] <Achoth__> xobius, when I tried editing xorg.conf I just got a warning after reboot (low graphic mode) and got an option to use 1680x1050 with my screen, when I tried this and rebooted my screen looked like this: http://static.pici.se/pictures/soYcFZZMr.jpg . I've alreday returned it to its previous state, without widescreen. Is there another way to get widescreen to work?
[19:32] <_Drax> does your router allow your ubuntu computer, are you restricting ports? if you type "ping www.google.com" does it respond?
[19:32] <raymondjtoth> hi anu one use ubuntu media studio ?
[19:32] <cyzie> hi, anyone has experience in installing 3d driver for intel onbard card?
[19:32] <DRebellion> hugh: heh, are you sure you're in the right channel (you could have accidentally created a new one)
[19:32] <usser> miasme: what kind of internet connection do u have?
[19:32] <miasme> no response
[19:32] <miasme> adsl
[19:32] <usser> cyzie: its installed by default
[19:33] <Steve2922> does openoffice have an irc channel?
[19:33] <hugh> DRebellion, that should be the reason, I wonder
[19:33] <_Drax> no response, then my guess is your router is blocking.
[19:33] <usser> cyzie: intel driver is opensourced and is included in gutsy by default
[19:33] <_Drax> can you check logs on the router?
[19:33] <miasme> nope
[19:33] <cyzie> usser, but it isnt enabled? cause when i launch googleearth, it cant detect the graphic driver
[19:33] <_Drax> does the router forward dns ?
[19:33] <usser> cyzie: weird what video chipset u got?
[19:33] <miasme> router does not block any new window$ machine though :o
[19:33] <miasme> dunno 'bout dns
[19:33] <_Drax> weird.
[19:34] <_Drax> if you try to "ping 66.249.93.99"
[19:34] <_Drax> instead of www.google.com
[19:34] <raymondjtoth> dose any one use ubuntu media studio edition
[19:34] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:34] <d0uglas> Hi. I'm grabbing a copy of Ubuntu for my brother whose computer I don't have access to yet and I can't remember if he's got a 64 or 32 bit chip. To save me bandwidth, can i just grab the 32 bit and if he has 64 bit just apt-get the 64 bit kernel? or do the different isos have different software packages intended for the different chips
[19:34] <cyzie> usser, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02
[19:34] <hugh> DRebellion, I don't know how allocate the 8G drive, actually I just need a swap and the rest. are you able to give some hints?
[19:34] <DRebellion> miasme: try   dig www.google.com
[19:35] <crimsun> d0uglas: 32-bit is always safe.  There is no straightforward procedure to replace a 32-bit system with a 64-bit one live, however.
[19:35] <johnficca> where does ubuntu keep its .ko files?
[19:35] <_Drax> have you tried your internet connection without the router between?? just to count that out.. ?
[19:35] <miasme> _Drax, same no response
[19:35] <DRebellion> hugh: you sure, try joining #lfs-support on the other network
[19:35] <freepenguin> hello men
[19:35] <crimsun> johnficca: meaning kernel modules?  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/
[19:35] <raymondjtoth> dose any one use the free sound editor beta version of it in ubuntu?
[19:35] <raymondjtoth> cant rember the name of it thwo
[19:35] <xobius> Achoth__, could you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[19:35] <d0uglas> crimsun: by live do you mean with the live cd install or the text based one gives me a kernel option?
[19:36] <sarthor> I use to connect/ browsing my 9300i Nokia from xp via pcsute, What to do for this in Ubuntu??
[19:36] <hugh> joining #LFS-support
[19:36] <crimsun> d0uglas: I mean "a running system".
[19:36] <miasme> dig said "timeout"
[19:36] <_Drax> miasme, try without the router
[19:36] <usser> cyzie: pastebin the output from glxinfo
[19:36] <d0uglas> gotchya. okay, thanks man.
[19:36] <miasme> can't do that :x
[19:36] <_Drax> cant even try?
[19:36] <_Drax> :P
[19:36] <DRebellion> hugh: no, lowercase
[19:36] <crimsun> d0uglas: i.e., there's no foolproof way to non-destructively replace a running 32-bit Ubuntu system to a 64-bit one.
[19:37] <miasme> there's this wonderfull wall with an ethernet port
[19:37] <miasme> that's all
[19:37] <raymondjtoth> any here use the free sound editor can rember the name thow
[19:37] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:37] <miasme> grouped building connection
[19:37] <hugh> joining #lfs-support
[19:37] <d0uglas> understood
[19:37] <_Drax> miasme, yea, just connect the cable in the wallsocket
[19:37] <_Drax> :)
[19:37] <_Drax> no router heh
[19:38] <miasme> did that :x
[19:38] <Achoth__> xobius, certainly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54100/
[19:38] <miasme> router is somewhere beyon that wall :o
[19:38] <_Drax> ahh
[19:38] <brkopac> hey guys i just installed the 7.10 server of install for ubuntu on my laptop, and hp dx6653ca and i'm sitting on that terminal trying to install some packages but it doesn't seem to want to connect to the INET, it configured the dchp properly during install, any ideas?
[19:38] <brkopac> sitting on the*
[19:38] <cyzie> usser, http://pastebin.org/17420
[19:38] <miasme> and sysadmin is a random computer-techie that comes only when the whole thing dies
[19:39] <raymondjtoth> howi save a sound edited file in mp3 i made with the new beat free sound editor
[19:39] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:39] <raymondjtoth> for ubuntu
[19:39] <xobius> Achoth__, your monitor have 1680x1050 ?
[19:39] <rsk> not ubuntu realated i think
[19:39] <kekkk> I have a problem using freeNX to connect to my laptop using vnc over ssh. it loads the !M screen but then says 'Opening password file failed'. There are no errors in the nxserver log. I can ssh to the machine fine and even connect to :0 using vnc-viewer. any thoughts?
[19:40] <Crazy_Andy> How do I get my screen resolution to stay changed?
[19:40] <miasme> is there any linuw distro good at solving network issues?
[19:40] <miasme> something light :x
[19:40] <miasme> (please say DSL)
[19:40] <xobius> Achoth__, in the 1rst mode you set "1680x1680"
[19:40] <igors> hi all..i've installed Enlightenment in my Ubuntu, its ok...but when i chosse Gnome in login window it doesn't work, its like an infinite loop..the desktop start to appear and stop!
[19:40] <blackvd> I'm lost I ran sudo apt-get install linux-generic and installed it. But when I run cat /proc/cpuinfo I still get 0 for proc? I have a dual core 1.86
[19:40] <crimsun> blackvd: did you reboot after apt-get completed?
[19:41] <blackvd> yep
[19:41] <Ballena> does anyone here use office: mac?
[19:41] <crimsun> blackvd: likely a missing class, then.  Have you confirmed the symptom with a Hardy Alpha 3 desktop CD?
[19:42] <blackvd> crimsun:nope i didnt knwo this was a problem till i stumble on it in the forums
[19:42] <prc320> miasme I said DSL as well!
[19:42] <cyzie> usser, any idea?
[19:42] <blackvd> would really like to have my proc working correctly
[19:42] <miasme> \o/
[19:42] <zionpsyfer> igors:  Did you install from synaptic?
[19:42] <raymondjtoth> usser can you help me a sec with a problem
[19:42] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:42] <miasme> will try to see if DSL can connect
[19:43] <miasme> running out of battery on the lappy
[19:43] <ene_dene> my nautilus is eating 80% of my CPU, why?
[19:43] <miasme> will be back
[19:43] <dubbe> good morning
[19:43] <blackvd> crimsun: if its a missing class ...doesnt that just mean i need to edit a config file?
[19:44] <Achoth__> xobius, lrst mode?
[19:44] <crimsun> blackvd: if by "config file" you meant "kernel config and then recompile", then yes.
[19:44] <raymondjtoth> blackvd you use the free sound editor can rembername thow
[19:44] <xobius> Achoth__, Modes		-> "1680x1680" "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "
[19:44] <crimsun> blackvd: and by "kernel config" I don't mean ".config", I mean kernel source.
[19:44] <blackvd> ugh
[19:45] <blackvd> i dont wanna mess with all that
[19:45] <SliMM> what's the slovenian ubuntu channel?
[19:45] <blackvd> in the forums everyone just did sudo apt-get install linux-686-smb then rebooted
[19:45] <xobius> Achoth__, your Monitor have 1680x1680?
[19:45] <Achoth__> xobius, no, it has 1680x1650
[19:45] <Achoth__> xobius, no, it has 1680x1050
[19:46] <xobius> Achoth__, then delete the 1rst Mode
[19:46] <mrashley> Would anyone happen to know if it's possible to get a GM965/GL960 (intel x3100) working with compiz fusion and still have video?
[19:46] <Achoth__> xobius, I just delete the entire "Modes...." row?
[19:47] <xobius> Achoth__, No wait me a moment I'm pastebin it
[19:47] <chester_martins> someone knows how can i manage my casio calculato (USB) in Ubuntu, or by VirtualBox??
[19:47] <chester_martins> please...
[19:48] <Petengy> hi to all
[19:48] <Petengy> someone here was able to install ubuntu 64bit on a DELL XPS M1730 ??? and if yes .... HOW ???
[19:48] <xobius> Achoth__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54102/
[19:49] <xobius> Achoth__, look athe modes line
[19:50] <Mace-Windu> Allright guys
[19:50] <Mace-Windu> Thanks for your help.
[19:50] <Mace-Windu> ^^
[19:50] <Achoth__> xobius, I see, I'll do that too
[19:50] <Jakerz> Does anyone know a good irc client for Ubuntu?
[19:50] <pine> xchat very nice
[19:50] <Jupp3> irssi? :)
[19:50] <johnficca> crimsun: thanks
[19:50] <xobius> Jakerz, I use xchat
[19:51] <Petengy> Jakerz:  xchat
[19:51] <brobostigon> Jakerz: pidgin, it does irc, and more
[19:51] <Achoth__> Jakerz, X-chat is good if you want GUI, irssi is good if you want CLI
[19:51] <Jakerz> Ill try Xchat and irssi, pidgin doesn't have many options for irc.
[19:51] <Jakerz> Thanks
[19:51] <Petengy> no one could explain me how to install ubuntu on my laptop ???
[19:52] <cyzie> usser, any idea?
[19:52] <brobostigon> Jakerz: but thats why i like pidgin, its simple,
[19:52] <dioca13> petengy I'd like to tell you !
[19:52] <Achoth__> Petengy, insert the CD, start with it, press the "install" icon on the desktop and follow the instructions
[19:52] <mrashley> Jakerz: Xchat is good. Much easier than pidgin in my opinion.
[19:53] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[19:53] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of any virtual surround sound software that can work in Ubuntu?
[19:53] <Petengy> Achoth__:  ok ok I tryed everthing was possible WUBI too but no way..... freezing boot process and blank screen... and vista does'n make me able to create a partition....
[19:53] <asymptote> #cisco
[19:54] <dioca13> Right!
[19:54] <mrashley> Is it possible to get a GM965/GL960 (intel x3100) working with compiz fusion and still have video?
[19:54] <dioca13> you've make partion by VISTA
[19:55] <Achoth__> xobius, I tried doing what you did and rebooted, but there is no diffrence
[19:55] <Boglizk> My sound has started to act up when playing with Firefox (flash) or an audio-player. But not with mplayer.
[19:55] <Petengy> yes but vista doesn't create the partition on the unallocated free space I have created
[19:55] <Jupp3> Boglizk: Maybe they use different audio systems?
[19:56] <Boglizk> I only have one soundcard.
[19:56] <crimsun> Boglizk: gutsy?
[19:56] <Boglizk> yes
[19:56] <crimsun> Boglizk: are you using alsa directly?
[19:56] <xobius> Achoth__, wait me a moment I will do some changes
[19:56] <Boglizk> crimsun: I think so.
[19:57] <Boglizk> But i haven't changed anything since yesterday, when it worked fine.
[19:57] <xirdneh> hi there, i have a laptop with the livecd ubuntu, im trying to backup things before installing in to another laptop they are both connected to the same network but samba doesnt see the other laptop, neither does windows see ubuntu, but both of them have internet access and connected to the same network
[19:57] <crimsun> Boglizk: does closing all other audio apps before starting Firefox to view a Flash applet work?
[19:58] <Boglizk> I tried that.. No effect. Unless theres some application (non-audo) thats doing it.
[19:58] <bcardarella> When I install the Samba package (Ubuntu 7.10 Server) it fails to create the /etc/samba directory along with the smb.conf file. Is there a reason why?
[19:58] <Boglizk> The sound is working fine, its just sounding like 50 kpbs
[19:58] <Petengy> are some boot settings to add during the cd live startup process (boot) to try on my laptop, I'd like to start live cd but the process freeze..... I tryed noapic but nothing
[19:59] <crimsun> Boglizk: are you referring to quality-wise?
[19:59] <Boglizk> yes.
[19:59] <Boglizk> Its sparkles or whatever you want to call it.
[19:59] <brobostigon> skips
[19:59] <crimsun> Boglizk: what level is PCM set to?
[19:59] <Boglizk> crimsun: No idea, where do i check that?
[20:00] <alexande1> hi, what's the command to print the name of the shell you're currently in?
[20:00] <crimsun> Boglizk: using any mixer utility, e.g., amixer, alsamixer, aumix, the speaker icon in the upper right corner of the top panel in GNOME, ...
[20:01] <E_Data> are there any ubuntu /gnome equivalents to the KDE program "Krita"?
[20:01] <tokok> hey ppl do anyone know in how many hours ubuntu 8.04 alpha 4 will be available?
[20:01] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of any virtual surround sound software that can work in Ubuntu?
[20:01] <Martian> Is the virtual rms program accurate? According to it my linux-generic package is non-free?
[20:01] <crimsun> Tetracomm: there's a lot of third-party stuff.
[20:01] <Jordan_U> E_Data, I assume you know that krita can e used from within Gnome?
[20:01] <Boglizk> crimsun: The sound level is 100% percent, if thats what  you were meaning.
[20:01] <xobius> Achoth__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54104/
[20:01] <crimsun> tokok: there's no ETA.
[20:01] <brobostigon> totok: three months
[20:01] <Petengy> does anyone how to force ubuntu live cd to start on my laptop ???
[20:01] <Tetracomm> crimsun: I haven't found anything, could you name one?
[20:02] <Petengy> please :(
[20:02] <crimsun> Boglizk: too high.  Try decreasing it to < 50%.
[20:02] <tokok> brobostigon: no, the date is today
[20:02] <Achoth__> Petengy, have you selected CD to boot first in BIOS?
[20:02] <crimsun> Tetracomm: OSSv4 provides one.  Be aware that it wholescale replaces Ubuntu's current audio base.
[20:02] <E_Data> yes Jordan_U i just dont like running them because the ones that i have tried run slowly
[20:02] <brobostigon> totok: final release is three months away
[20:02] <xobius> Achoth__, I change the  Section "Monitor" and "Screen"
[20:02] <Boglizk> crimsun: Wow, that worked. Thanks alot
[20:02] <Tetracomm> crimsun: Anything else then?
[20:03] <tokok> brobostigon: read my message once again, i did not said anything about final release
[20:03] <johnficc2> how do I list all of the modules that are in use right now?
[20:03] <brkopac> i just installed the server version of ubuntu onto my laptop, and it can't seem to get to any of the respoitories it just throws "temporary failure resolving <repo>"
[20:03] <brkopac> and i know the inet is good
[20:03] <brobostigon> totok: i misread sorry
[20:03] <crimsun> Tetracomm: LADSPA plugins, alsa-lib config, etc.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> E_Data, Unless you are *very* strapped for RAM you shouldn't notice a speed difference between running QT apps in Gnome vs KDE
[20:03] <E_Data> its virtually impossible for me to run windows and running it virtually sounds like a lot of work so i need an ubuntu equivalent to photoshop cs3
[20:03] <johnficc2> and how do I stop ndiswrapper from starting on boot?
[20:04] <Martian> E_Data Did you try GIMP?
[20:04] <bastid_raZor> E_Data; gimp
[20:04] <E_Data> yes i dont like gimp
[20:04] <Stephmw> E_Data: then there's nothing else close
[20:04] <Achoth__> xobius, I see no diffrence :o
[20:04]  * E_Data cries
[20:04] <Jordan_U> E_Data, What types of things do you need to do?
[20:04] <maxownz> i just installed IEs4Linux and none of the IE windows show the menus across the top... can't see the navbar or anything
[20:04] <E_Data> text, special effects, basically forum signature stuff
[20:04] <thebigham> Hi everyone, flash doesnt seem to work on firefox
[20:04] <straus> could anyone help me with configuring my PCU fan in Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> E_Data, It is not true that there is nothing else, depending on what you need to do you may like inkscape for instance
[20:05] <E_Data> go to macromedia.com thebigham and download the package
[20:05] <Petengy> Achoth__:  yes, the cd run , I can choose in the startup menu and I have tryed the stdandard start and the safe graphic mode and settings "noapic" at the startup, but nothing to do
[20:05] <xobius> Achoth__, Modeline "1680x1050" 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 in Monitor section
[20:05] <Martian> !flash | thebigham
[20:05] <ubotu> thebigham: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[20:05] <Martian> It's broken.
[20:05] <ipx> maxownz: what if you press alt?
[20:05] <xobius> Achoth__, only  Mode "1680x1050" in setcion screen
[20:06] <b4l74z4r> in ubuntu, many menus only have a close button so the changes you make in it happens "on the fly", if you use the X in the window corner, are the changes you made discarded?
[20:06] <Factory|TyraeL^> seek team 1.3 pv me :)
[20:06] <thebigham> Martian, thank you, but i think i installed the other flash player, not the one from adobe. How can i get rid of it?
[20:06] <xobius> Achoth__, can you see them?
[20:06] <alexande1> I have a .bash_profile in my home directory, but it isn't being read, I think or at least isn't working
[20:06] <alexande1> any idea why?
[20:06] <straus> My system logs are flooded with 'Unable to turn cooling device 'xxxxxxxx' 'on'", can anyone direct me to any sites regarding this
[20:06] <johnficc2> how do I list all of the modules that are in use right now?
[20:07] <Martian> thebigham, it's called GNASH. That's about all I know.
[20:07] <Achoth__> xobius, not really, but I'll paste that entire xorg.conf in mine
[20:07] <straus> My system logs are flooded with 'Unable to turn cooling device 'xxxxxxxx' 'on'", can anyone direct me to any sites regarding this
[20:07] <Midnigh2Toker> how do i stop the 7.10 liveCD from starting bluetooth services? it boots untill that point and then hangs infinitum
[20:07] <bcardarella> Is there a way to regenerate the default smb.conf file?
[20:07] <xobius> Achoth__, ok
[20:07] <Jordan_U> E_Data, Try Xara and inkscape for vector graphics, you may find you prefer them to Photoshop since it's a raster graphics editor primarily ( unlike illustrator )
[20:07] <xobius> Achoth__, copy the old xorg.conf before
[20:07] <Jordan_U> John_R, lsmod
[20:08] <John_R> ?
[20:08] <E_Data> where can i get inkscape in .deb format?
[20:09] <Jordan_U> E_Data, Just install it with Applications -> Add / Remove
[20:09] <Jordan_U> E_Data, Or synaptic / apt
[20:09] <straus> gMy system logs are flooded with 'Unable to turn cooling device 'xxxxxxxx' 'on'", can anyone direct me to any sites regarding this
[20:11] <DRebellion> E_Data: sudo apt-get install inkscape
[20:13] <Achoth__> xobius, It took an aweful lot of time to load Ubuntu, but there is no diffrence in the resolution.
[20:13] <seon> i did ssh-keygen -t dsa and after i want to do ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub fileserver01, i have a question , i answered yes and after i have a message failed to add the to the list... and a prompt with password:
[20:14] <E_Data> k got it, next question while im here, is ubuntu designed specifically for low end systems? because i dont get any performance boost out of it whether i use my pentium 4 w/ 512mb DDR or if i use my 2.8Ghz Dual core w/3 GB DDR2 800
[20:14] <xobius> Achoth__, wait me a moment
[20:15] <Martian> Night
[20:15] <johnficc2> how do I get a script to run at boot as root?
[20:15] <DRebellion>  [19:40] [DRebellion(+ei)] [2:#ubuntu(+JLcfnt 2,5 #ubuntu-unregged)] [Act: 1,3,4,5,6]
[20:15] <DRebellion> argh, sorry.
[20:16] <DRebellion> E_Data: linux is very efficient no matter what specs you throw at it
[20:16] <K_Nine> BTW I just found out that mIRC works fine with wine. With mIRC you can reduce the size of the join and part messages and you have more option choices. They say you have to register, but if you don't it still works.
[20:17] <Jordan_U> !boot | johnficc2
[20:17] <ubotu> johnficc2: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:17] <xobius> Achoth__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54107/    betwen 63-70 number lines
[20:17] <e66> hello room
[20:17] <yigal> I am compiling some code and want to use both of my CPUs to do this what cflag option do I use?
[20:17] <e66> is there any screen capture as video type program in ubuntu ?????
[20:17] <[BT]JaC> hi there
[20:17] <wweasel> I have a bit of an odd partitioning dilemma and would like some advice. My comp has a 40GB drive and a 250 GB drive on a SATA PCI controller. The 250 GB therefore cannot be booted by the bios. I would like to have my entire root partition exist on the 250 gb partition, and use the 40 GB one for GRUB and other OS's. a) Does this make sense? and b) How should I go about setting up grub? To put the /boot folder on the 40 GB drive too?
[20:18] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[20:18] <D|2> i just tried restarting ubuntu and it wont load up.. it gets stuck on a screen flashing an underscore
[20:18] <Achoth__> e66, yes, gtk-recordMyDesktop
[20:18] <Jordan_U> e66, Yes try Applications -> Add / Remove when looking for GUI apps ( make sure you have it set to show all available applications )
[20:19] <e66> Achoth__:  Thanks a Looot
[20:19] <e66> Jordan_U:  I better use apt-get
[20:19] <e66> Jordan_U: But The name is necessary. ;)
[20:19] <Jordan_U> e66, Whatever you prefer, ( 'apt-cache search' for searching )
[20:19] <drgonzo00000> when i type ctrl alt F1, I get a black screen instead of the terminal. It worked the first time I did it, but never after that. Any suggestions
[20:20] <wweasel> or, at least, can someone advise me as to how to partition to make all boot related files on one hda partition, while my root partition will be on hdb?
[20:20] <buzzard> wweasel, putting boot on the 40gb should work - but i'd recommend mounting / on their as well - then mount /usr /var /home... (all big partitions) on your 250gb
[20:20] <netgear> can anyone tell me what to install to be able to watch dvds? i have gstreamer plugins installed and enabled restricted software from sources
[20:20] <K_Nine> wweasel have you tried Qparted
[20:20] <DRebellion> drgonzo00000: try f2 to f6
[20:20] <Jakerz> When I download Unreal3.2.7 and try to open it, it says: Cannot be opened. No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[20:20] <yigal> I am compiling some code and want to use both of my CPUs to do this what cflag option do I use?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> wweasel, Are you sure you don't mean that you want a separate /boot or /home?
[20:21] <nickrud> wweasel: I would think you should only have to install the grub mbr on the hda, grub should find the / on the sata no problem.
[20:21] <DRebellion> !dvd > netgear (read the pm from ubotu)
[20:21] <wweasel> K_Nine: GParted
[20:21] <drgonzo00000> DRebellion: nothing happened
[20:21] <e66> Jordan_U:  I  am not much familiar with GUI. Just  trying to make a tutorial for my localhost web application.
[20:21] <wweasel> Jordan_U: separate /boot, and make sure that GRUB is installed on hda (not the drive i'm putting the root partition on)
[20:21] <netgear> DRebellion: thanks
[20:21] <K_Nine> wweasel both exist
[20:22] <Jakerz> Anyone know what the problem is? Or how I can open .exe files?
[20:22] <wweasel> K_Nine: I know, i'm telling you what i'm using. doesn't matter though.
[20:22] <D|2> any ideas why ubuntu wont start up?
[20:22] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[20:22] <K_Nine> Jakerz that sounds like a windows executable. Try wine.
[20:22] <wweasel> I'm thinking now whether I should simply make my 250 GB drive the /home folder.
[20:22] <nickrud> wweasel: that would be an elegant solution
[20:22] <pine> jakertzz. files .exe are for windows arch
[20:23] <Jordan_U> Jakerz, Not all .exe's can be run ( They are applications made for windows after all, not Linux ) but you can try running them with an application called 'wine'
[20:23] <Jakerz> Hm alright thanks Ill look for a different version then
[20:23] <D|2> afte changing some sound settings i restarted and now ubuntu wont start up.  im using 7.10.  it just gets stuck on a black screen with a flashing underscore
[20:23] <DRebellion> D|2: what happens if you press ctrl+alt+f7
[20:24] <bkar> D|2-> waited long enuff? like 10 mins?
[20:24] <pine> Jakerz, there are executable binaries for linux though, called .deb or .rpm
[20:24] <D|2> nah i havent waited 10, like 5 max
[20:24] <D|2> several tries
[20:24] <b4l74z4r> i'm trying to find the bookmarks file for opera (opera6.adr), i searched for it and it turns out that there's an opera6.adr in two locations: /usr/share/opera/ and /usr/share/opera/locale/en/ - why is the file in two locations?
[20:24] <K_Nine> D|2 Is there a way to fix the Grub from the install disc?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> pine, packages are not exactly 'executable binaries', and that's a good thing :)
[20:25] <D|2> DRebellion nothing happens when i do ctrl alt f7
[20:25] <K_Nine> b4l74z4r One may be for you and the other for all users.
[20:25] <buzzard> D|2 do you see any output at all during boot?
[20:25] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[20:25] <ToddEDM> hey guys, how do i install a .bin file?
[20:25] <pine> well not exactly but they are compiled and ready to be launched for installation
[20:26] <ToddEDM> google earth is a .bin file
[20:26] <DRebellion> ToddEDM: try   chmod +x <file.bin> && ./<file.bin>
[20:26] <D|2> no buzzard, comes up with my emachine logo screen then goes into this flashing underscore screen
[20:26] <K_Nine> ToddEDM try a google search
[20:26] <robert_> can I restrict port 5900 to be accessed only by 24.73.111.20[2|3|4|5] ?
[20:26] <ToddEDM> K_Nine:  what is this channel for?
[20:26] <robert_> (using iptables)
[20:26] <K_Nine> ToddEDM Google Earth is in the repros.
[20:26] <DRebellion> K_Nine: please don't direct users to google like that, it completely defeats the point of this channel.
[20:27] <ToddEDM> no kidding
[20:27] <K_Nine> ToddEDM For people who can't find things in google.
[20:27] <ToddEDM> wrong
[20:27] <singlesun> another issue.... just finished installing on my wifes pc, but her usb wireless adapter is not connecting to our network... it sees networks, even unsecure networks... it just fails to connect.... anyones thoughts?
[20:27] <Achoth__> xobius, it works perfectly, thank yo very much for your help :)
[20:27] <mrashley> Is it possible to get a GM965/GL960 (intel x3100) working with compiz fusion and still have video?
[20:27] <DRebellion> singlesun: have you checked the output from 'dmesg' ?
[20:27] <D|2> bkar how long do i need to wait
[20:27] <buzzard> D|2 you may need to run linux from a live cd and reinstall grub - do you remember what you changed before the problem
[20:28] <xobius> Achoth__, are you Egyptian?
[20:28] <Achoth__> xobius, No, Swedish, why?
[20:28] <singlesun> DRebellion, no i have not.... you want me to plug in the adapter and try and connect to a network then run that from bash?
[20:28] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM, People who have tried to solve there problem on their own first but are unsure or unable to do so ( ideally :)
[20:28] <DRebellion> ToddEDM: you should install google earth like this:   sudo apt-get install googleearth
[20:28] <bkar> D|2-> waited long enuff? like 10 mins? or possibly more, emachines are known to be slow
[20:28] <K_Nine> ToddEDM chmod +x file.bin
[20:28] <K_Nine> ./file.bin
[20:28] <xobius> Achoth__,  the nick I supposed that
[20:29] <DRebellion> ToddEDM: but to do that you would need the medibuntu repo.
[20:29] <pine> anyone tried a program called denyhosts ?????????+
[20:29] <drgonzo00000> anyone know how to manually adjust brightness I tried: sudo echo 22 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness but I get the error Permission Denied
[20:29] <DRebellion> pine: yes, it works fine.
[20:30] <pine> ok i have a q
[20:30] <ToddEDM> whats medibuntu?
[20:30] <Achoth__> xobius, oh, it's just something random I thought up when trying out some MMORPGs' ^^ again thanks for the help, cya
[20:30] <DRebellion> !medibuntu | ToddEDM
[20:30] <ubotu> ToddEDM: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:30] <ToddEDM> ahh
[20:30] <D|2> nothing really buzzard
[20:30] <ToddEDM> thx
[20:30] <D|2> just some sound settings
[20:30] <pine> DRebellion, once i get an ip add in my hosts.deny
[20:31] <pine> DRebellion, i manually remove it but it will show up after 30 again ?
[20:31] <johnficca> ok here is the deal, I installed the proprietary driver for my wireless card the card is an realtek rtl8185L. Ok so I got the card going using the install scripts that they have but when I reboot I have to run this script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54112/ all over again. Is there a way i can get this to run at boot?
[20:31] <DRebellion> pine: i don't understand your question, sorry, could you rephrase it?
[20:31] <DRebellion> !boot | johnficca
[20:31] <Jordan_U> drgonzo00000, That is a misleading problem caused by using sudo in that way, you may want to join #ubuntu-classroom so I can explain without flooding the room here :)
[20:31] <D|2> lmfao well it looks like its booting now, i realized a u3 smart drive was plugged in.. was prolly trying to boot off that lol
[20:32] <ubotu> johnficca: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:32] <johnficca> I need someone to look at the script
[20:32] <pine> DRebel,  ok denyhosts adds ip numbers that are trying to brute force throuh ssh
[20:32] <johnficca> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54112/
[20:32] <buzzard> D|2 - :)
[20:32] <drgonzo00000> Jordan_U: I'm there
[20:32] <DRebellion> pine: yes...
[20:32] <pine> DRebel,  It will add them in a file called hosts.deny
[20:32] <DRebellion> pine: yes...
[20:32] <singlesun> DRebellion, i have a huge output from dmesg.... i will put it in a pastebin in a minute, i have to go back to that computer
[20:33] <pine> DRebel,  so if I remove thie particular ip numbers from hosts.deny. THen that ip can log in again right ??
[20:33] <buzzard> maybe reorder booting devices in the bios
[20:33] <DRebellion> pine: yep
[20:33] <pine> DRebel,  but once I remove it , it will pop back up again in hosts.deny
[20:33] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[20:33] <mrashley> Is there a place I should go to ask about video questions?
[20:34] <b4l74z4r> is there any way i can copy and paste files with nautilus instead of the terminal?
[20:34] <DRebellion> pine: it does, or you think it will?
[20:34] <DRebellion> mrashley: what is the question?
[20:34] <b4l74z4r> i mean the file browser
[20:34] <pine> DRebel,  no It does I tried it
[20:34] <mrashley> DRebellion: Is it possible to get a GM965/GL960 (intel x3100) working with compiz fusion and still have video?
[20:35] <pine> DRebel,  so how do I remove it ??????
[20:35] <Skrux> hi
[20:36] <Skrux> do anybody know how to quit the (adress not verified) of the msn nick ?
[20:36] <pine> DRebel,  Im thinking that denyhosts reads some file with recent login failures somewhere
[20:36] <pine> ive tried to empty auth.log
[20:36] <__mor1> Hi folk
[20:36] <DRebellion> b4l74z4r: yep, just right-click and select copy
[20:36] <b4l74z4r> i want to copy a file to a different location, can i do that without using terminal?
[20:36] <DRebellion> mrashley: no idea
[20:36] <pine> and theres also /var/lib/denyhosts/
[20:36] <pine> any ideas ???????
[20:36] <DRebellion> pine: nope, sorry.
[20:37] <Skrux> do anybody know how to quit the (adress not verified) of the msn nick ? 'cos they didn't send me a verify message
[20:37] <b4l74z4r> DRebellion, I did that but the paste option is greyed out when i try to paste it into a folder
[20:37] <Skrux> x((
[20:37] <DRebellion> pine: lemme take a look
[20:37] <__mor1> need your help please... I need your /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 32-bit!  That's because I am installing a citrix client on my 64-bit gutsy, but it dislike my 64bit libXm.so.3
[20:37] <__mor1> So, would you please send me that file?
[20:37] <Skrux> any idea ?
[20:37] <DRebellion> pine: is the ip in any of the bad sounding files in /var/lib/denyhosts?
[20:38] <DRebellion> pine: if so i would try removing it
[20:38] <rendero> hello, anybody knows the way to show a long output generated by a command typed on a shell, like seeing the 1 to 10 line, or 11 to 20 line
[20:38] <pine> yes its there, but which one ?
[20:38] <DRebellion> rendero: pipe it to less, eg   <command> | less
[20:39] <maak> hi peeps :)
[20:39] <DRebellion> pine: what do you mean "which one"?
[20:39] <david__> hello
[20:39] <david__> hay i need some help with my atheros ar5006eg
[20:40] <maak> ehm, i could really use some guidance from some experienced linux users..
[20:40] <brobostigon> maak: fire away
[20:40] <maak> well, i've probbably installed ubuntu about 7 times now, and removed it all the times.
[20:40] <pine> there are 9 files there
[20:40] <mrashley> DRebellion: is it a silly question?
[20:40] <__mor1> Would someone please send me  his/her /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 32bit???
[20:40] <pine> which one to empty ?
[20:40] <sel3> anybody know if theres an irc channel for the eeeXubuntu project?
[20:41] <maak> can't quite get the hang of it.
[20:41] <adminuser>  hi
[20:41] <singlesun> DRebellion, here is the link to the dmesg output " http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54116/
[20:41] <brobostigon> maak: i doesnt work for everyone, it didnt me at the start either
[20:42] <ToddEDM> ok, im getting googleearth now... thanks DRebellion
[20:42] <brobostigon> maak: took me 5 years to get the hang of it
[20:42] <DRebellion> ToddEDM: no problem
[20:42] <__mor1> don't tell me no one has libXm.so.3 32bit nor time to send me it
[20:42] <NullNone> Where can i find standart ubuntu sources.list file? I installed ubuntu, but my /etc/apt/sources.list contains only CDROM
[20:42] <DRebellion> NullNone: go to system -> administration -
[20:42] <DRebellion> NullNone: go to system -> administration -> software sources
[20:43] <singlesun> DRebellion, so, i have no clue, what else to do.... the card tries to connect to the wireless networks in the area, it brings up the box to enter passwd and everything... but it fails to connect
[20:44] <pine> where do u live NullNone ?
[20:44] <DRebellion> singlesun: hrm, not much useful output in the log i'm afraid.
[20:44] <__mor1> eeeXubuntu project=? what's that
[20:44] <DRebellion> singlesun: what error message does it give when it fails?
[20:44] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/people/death-and-taxes-2008/ very interesting
[20:44] <Kitar|st> hehe
[20:44] <singlesun> DRebellion, no error at all... it just doesnt not connect... it times out
[20:44] <DRebellion> !offtopic | Kitar|st
[20:44] <ubotu> Kitar|st: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:44] <brobostigon> _mor1: xubuntu for eeepc
[20:44] <pine> NullNone, I can send u one if ya like
[20:44] <NullNone> DRebellion, but /etc/apt/sources.list is almous empty. And I installed ubuntu derivated(fluxbuntu). Can you please supply me with you sources.list
[20:44] <singlesun> DRebellion, i even tried connecting to a non secure net... and still no luck
[20:45] <__mor1> singlesun: be aware that the password supplied is the one generated from wpapassword, in the case of wpa-encryption
[20:45] <DRebellion> singlesun: ok, lets try configuring this manually
[20:45] <NullNone> pine, i think it will be very good
[20:45] <DRebellion> singlesun: are you using your home wireless hub?
[20:45] <__mor1> please type ls /usr/lib/libXm.so.3 in the shell
[20:45] <singlesun> DRebellion, i have a belkin wireless G router
[20:45] <yoshx> hello
[20:46] <__mor1> and *send* me that file, you lazy :-P
[20:46] <DRebellion> singlesun: does it have encryption? if so what type?
[20:46] <singlesun> DRebellion, it is either WPA or WPA2
[20:46] <DJ_MaRCeLLo> how do change memory in jvm?
[20:46] <singlesun> DRebellion, however it still will not even connect to an non secure network
[20:46] <__mor1> singlesun: ostia, use the password generated from wpapassword
[20:46] <__mor1> hat capì o no?
[20:47] <Achoth__> How can I get my IntelliMouse 3.0 extra buttons to act like they should? mouse4 should be back and mouse5 should be forward
[20:47] <singlesun> _morl, but if that was the issue it should still connect to a non secure network with no password needed right?
[20:47] <DRebellion> singlesun: i'm not sure really :/ . Try connecting to some different networks and paste dmesg again, it should have some more ouput.
[20:47] <__mor1> this chan seems not to be that friendly
[20:47] <__mor1> singlesun: you're right
[20:47] <singlesun> DRebellion, all i did was type dmesg at the bash, after letting it try to connect
[20:48] <DRebellion> singlesun: hrm...
[20:48] <__mor1> please, be _mor1 friendly and send me your damned libXm.so.3 32bit
[20:48] <__mor1> it's not that hard
[20:48] <DJ_MaRCeLLo> how do change memory in jvm?
[20:48] <singlesun> DRebellion, i mean, i dont really have a clue what else could be causing it.... it sees the networks... tries to connect... but fails?
[20:48] <__mor1> you can do it, sure
[20:48] <PriceChild> __mor1, I wouldn't advise that.
[20:49] <__mor1> what?
[20:49] <DRebellion> singlesun: i don't either.
[20:49] <__mor1> you can even leave a copy of libXm.so.3 on your hard disk: it's the electornic-magic
[20:50] <pine> NullNone, where do u live ?
[20:50] <PriceChild> __mor1, I would advise you take it from the deb archives taken from packages.ubuntu.com, or left in your /var/cache/apt
[20:50] <maak> brobostingon: wonders, is there any guide for someone who can work their way around a computer, but not linux?
[20:50] <pine> NullNone, this one is best for sweden
[20:51] <__mor1> PriceChild: in /var/cache/apt there's a 64-bit version...
[20:51] <lubos_> how do I select which locale I want to compile if /etc/locale.gen file is missing on ubuntu?
[20:51] <brobostigon> maak: so a bsic computing user guide, kind of thing
[20:51] <dittboy> Hi, is ist possible to add an application (manually) to the gnome-keyring? I want to open a document from a ssh-folder with gedit, but gedit doesn't ask to access the keyring.
[20:51] <PriceChild> __mor1, packages.ubuntu.com then
[20:51] <singlesun> _morl, can you explain that "wpapassword" thing?
[20:51] <xen_> Hey there, the login screen resolution is way off, but my desktop reso is fine, how do i go about changing the login screen resolution?
[20:52] <maak> brobostigon, well, kinda. i just read a guide on hacking.. NOT CRACKING! :) and , linux is getting another try.
[20:52] <velko> lubos_, install and configure the package localeconf. i have no idea why they diverged from the debian way of doing it...
[20:52] <DJ_MaRCeLLo> how do change memory in jvm???
[20:52] <DJ_MaRCeLLo> how do change memory in jvm???
[20:52] <NullNone> pine, I live in Ukraine, but what file are you talking about,when typing "this one"? tnx
[20:52] <K_Nine> maak try this site http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/
[20:52] <lubos_> velko: thanks
[20:52] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[20:52] <__mor1> open a shell and type /usr/bin/wpa_passphrase
[20:52] <__mor1> the previous reference to wpapassword was a typo
[20:53] <singlesun> DRebellion, any further thoughts on what else it could be?
[20:53] <brobostigon> maak: linux documentation project, it contains loads about general computing, unfortunatly unix based, but loads that ust general computing
[20:53] <singlesun> _morl, while trying to connect or no?
[20:53] <maak> brobostigon: i want to learn some basic unix command/programming, really get the feel of linux :)
[20:53] <maak> thanks K_nine
[20:53] <pine> im sending my sources.lst
[20:53] <brobostigon> maak: look for the Linux documentation project
[20:53] <__mor1> I experienced that if I wrote my wpa password in network manager applet I can't connect, while if I paste the password generated from wpa_passphrase using that password all was good
[20:54] <pine> DRebellion, ok so which file is it then ???????+ in /var/lib/denyhosts ???+
[20:54] <DRebellion> singlesun: no, sorry. dmesg is usually where i find all the best info.
[20:54] <K_Nine> maak try this page for command line http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/
[20:54] <DRebellion> pine: honestly, if i knew i'd tell you.
[20:54] <maak> brobostigon: allright, i'll try that, thanks :)
[20:54] <K_Nine> http://www.linux.org/lessons/
[20:54] <pine> NullNone, accept my file been send to you then
[20:54] <maak> thanks again K_Nine, i found it :)
[20:54] <__mor1> singlesun: RTFM man wpa_passphrase:     wpa_passphrase - Generate a WPA PSK from an ASCII passphrase for a SSID
[20:54] <singlesun> __morl, so, i try to connect to the network without adding the password? then use the one generated from wpapassphrase ?
[20:55] <K_Nine> maak there were two sites
[20:55] <nickrud> !rtfm | __mor1
[20:55] <ubotu> __mor1: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[20:55] <brobostigon> maak:http://tldp.org/
[20:55] <K_Nine> maak this one goes through the shell http://www.linux.org/lessons/
[20:55] <maak> thanks K_nine and brobostigon, got them all :)
[20:55] <xen_> Hey there, the login screen resolution is way off, but my desktop reso is fine, how do i go about changing the login screen resolution?
[20:55] <singlesun> __morl, #RTFM man wpa_passphrase:             <---- this works? just like that? then enter this into the are for the password when trying to connect to my network
[20:56] <StrangeCharm__> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the comp
[20:56] <StrangeCharm__> uter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[20:56] <__mor1> ok, i say it plain: read the funny (!) manual
[20:56] <uk-male> i configured my server to use its own ldap server to auth, however when i rebooted i could no longer log in,  i had to go into single user and remove ldap from nsswitch
[20:56] <D|2> is ubuntu built on a unix platform
[20:57] <StrangeCharm__> D|2: gnu's not unix
[20:57] <nickrud> __mor1: :) gotta explain what the manual is often as well
[20:57] <Starnestommy> D|2: a unix-like one, because linux isn't a true unix
[20:57] <Bollinger> is there a nice html editor available for Ubuntu?
[20:57] <DRebellion> Bollinger: vim
[20:57] <nickrud> Bollinger: kompozer and amaya
[20:57] <lubos_> velko: localeconf installed and configured to use debconf.. any more hints pls?
[20:57] <K_Nine> Bollinger what about NVU
[20:57] <Skrux> bye
[20:57] <velko> lubos_, dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[20:57] <nickrud> Bollinger: and bluefish, screem, others are text
[20:57] <incorrect> arg
[20:57] <doofus123> does anyone have problems with the liveCD on an 8800GT and a gigabyte P35c-DS3R board (and an intel E6750cpu)?
[20:58] <Bollinger> thanks for those ;-)
[20:58] <zhobbs> for some reason firefox-bin is constantly using 20-40% CPU no matter what (even if no flash is loaded and it's not doing anything)
[20:58] <K_Nine> doofus123 maybe you got a bad cd.
[20:58] <loquitus_of_borg> hey people. I want to install the full suite of win32 codecs for my ubuntu. is there a way to get that to show up in synaptics?
[20:58] <StrangeCharm__> Bollinger: also bluefish, screem, quanta
[20:58] <doofus123> K_Nine: no, i've checked
[20:58] <K_Nine> doofus123 did you do a sum check
[20:58] <doofus123> K_Nine: yes
[20:58] <Jordan_U> !codecs | loquitus_of_borg
[20:58] <ubotu> loquitus_of_borg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:58] <NullNone> pine, sory but i think that my internet provider is blocking you incomming connections
[20:59] <K_Nine> doofus123 maybe u have to use basic video like vesa
[20:59] <lubos_> velko: it gives me the same configuration windows I had during instalation. Aksing if I want to use debconf to manage
[20:59] <doofus123> K_Nine: could you explain how to do that?
[20:59] <pine> NullNone,  why is that ?????????+
[21:00] <StrangeCharm__> loquitus_of_borg: you could use automatix?
[21:00] <velko> lubos_, oh, either something changed or i'm wrong. please try dpkg-reconfigure locales. but i think reconfiguring localeconf did the trick
[21:00] <MrObvious> zhobbs: What kind of CPU?
[21:00] <K_Nine> doofus123 I;m just learning Ubuntu, but on other distros there are choices on boot up.
[21:00] <pine> Null, restrictions on the internet is not good, Internet should be free and open
[21:00] <NullNone> pine, can you paste content of sources.list in private chat window?
[21:00] <zhobbs> MrObvious, Athlon 3200+
[21:01] <pine> ok
[21:01] <doofus123> K_Nine: all right. thanks for the help
[21:01] <pine> i can check out better repositories for you , hold on
[21:01] <MrObvious> zhobbs: Hmm that's odd. I'm trying to think what it could be.
[21:01] <mikeymike> i am wondering how one would be able to transfer files between 2 linux computers easily without using ftp.. such as NFS or SAMBA. i read something saying that SAMBA is not needed to transfer files between 2 linux computers and that NFS was sufficient for that. can anyone tell me a little more about this and how to do it?
[21:02] <singlesun> DRebellion, either way ... it should still connect to the unsecure network... i just tried using "wpa_passphrase belkin54g" etc... and still no go
[21:02] <lubos_> velko: it seems that dpkg-reconfigure locales just trigers locale-gen command and generate previous locales but I ned to add more :-)
[21:02] <zhobbs> MrObvious, hmm...further testing it looks like it doesn't happen until I go to a page with flash
[21:02] <K_Nine> mikeymike could u use a usb drive?
[21:02] <DRebellion> mikeymike: you could use netcat
[21:02] <zhobbs> MrObvious, but even if I close that tab it still is cranking
[21:02] <mikeymike> K_Nine, we're talking big files over 800 megs :)
[21:02] <velko> mikeymike, you install nfs-kernel-server on the one machine and edit /etc/exports to export one or more directories. then on the other machine you mount these directories
[21:02] <MrObvious> zhobbs: I think that's normal for Firefox when it's active. I have a 1.6 GHz C2D laptop and it uses a lot of CPU too relatively speaking.
[21:03] <StrangeCharm__> mikeymike: you want to do it over the network?
[21:03] <mikeymike> StrangeCharm_, yep
[21:03] <MrObvious> zhobbs: Oh Flash? Hmm it could be Flash itself. Do you use the Adobe plugin or gnash?
[21:03] <StrangeCharm__> mikeymike: or are the machines next to each other?
[21:03] <K_Nine> mikeymike 1 gb drives are under $20
[21:03] <mikeymike> DRebellion, what is netcat?
[21:03] <mikeymike> K_Nine, the computers are networked that is ridiculous to buy a drive lol
[21:03] <zhobbs> MrObvious, adobe
[21:03] <singlesun> __morl, DRebellion, could this be a driver issue with my card? that it is trying to connect but cannot?
[21:03] <mikeymike> StrangeCharm_, they're not close enough physically
[21:03] <MrObvious> zhobbs: I think Flash just does that. IDK what to say.
[21:04] <DRebellion> singlesun: perhaps
[21:04] <zhobbs> MrObvious, thanks anyway :)
[21:04] <K_Nine> mikeymike then what is wrong with samba?
[21:04] <StrangeCharm__> mikeymike: that's a double underscore :p
[21:04] <velko> lubos_, yeah, i know what you mean. installing localeconf shoud do the trick. but it does not. sorry - no more ideas. the ubutu devs splitted the locale package in two some time ago
[21:04] <DRebellion> mikeymike: it is the swiss army knife of network tools
[21:04] <mikeymike> DRebellion, okay
[21:04] <mikeymike> i'll look into it
[21:04] <MrObvious> zhobbs: You're welcome. Flash may be just one of those things that uses CPU because of all that it does and all the security patches they put in.
[21:04] <mikeymike> K_Nine, the thing i read said that samba is not necessary to haev 2 linux computers send files over a network
[21:05] <velko> lubos_, did you answered affrimatively the debconf question in localeconf?
[21:05] <Dandre> hello,
[21:05] <mikeymike> StrangeCharm__, lol sorry
[21:05] <K_Nine> mikeymike do you want to do a ftp transfer
[21:05] <lubos_> velko: yes I did .. do I want to use debconf ?
[21:06] <mikeymike> no no ftp
[21:06] <velko> lubos_, yes
[21:06] <mikeymike> K_Nine, no ftp. over the network using NFS i'm guessing
[21:06] <mikeymike> im asking for a friend
[21:06] <Dandre> I want to have, in some situations, a virtual screen larger than my screen dimension. Is it possible to have 2 screen definition and then choose wich one to use?
[21:06] <velko> lubos_, maybe look in /usr/share/doc/localeconf for help. i really have no more ideas
[21:06] <StrangeCharm__> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the comp
[21:06] <StrangeCharm__> uter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[21:06] <mikeymike> i think i will take velko's suggestion and install  nfs-kernel-server
[21:06] <lubos_> velko: Replace existing locale configuration files?
[21:06] <mikeymike> thanks velko
[21:07] <mikeymike> i'll be back if he cant figure it out :)
[21:07] <mikeymike> thanks guys
[21:07] <velko> lubos_, i don't understand your last question
[21:07] <velko> mikeymike, i can give you working examples if you need them
[21:07] <K_Nine> mikeymike  what about scp  http://linux.die.net/man/1/scp
[21:08] <velko> K_Nine, he's out
[21:08] <pine> Nullzone are u there ???????++
[21:08] <lubos_> velko: that was from localeconf configuration. Now it works... I needed to answer yes for debconf and yes toReplace existing locale configuration files
[21:08] <pine> NullNone are u there ???????
[21:08] <pine> ls
[21:08] <K_Nine> velko too bad, it sounded like scp would work for him.
[21:08] <velko> lubos_, oh, glad that it works now
[21:09] <incorrect> has anyone come found they can't log in to their local server when they move it over to using ldap to auth ?
[21:10] <lubos_> velko: thanks man but I still think that this is not all I need..:-( this is asking me for default locale
[21:10] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[21:10] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[21:10] <OldGreg> hi there. quick question about dual-booting: I installed Xubuntu on my laptop a while back, and need to update the firmware on my DVD-ROM drive. The executable is Win-only, so I got Wine running and I get an error like "cannot determine system power state, operation aborted". I have no idea how to resolve this within wine, so i figured I'd install WinXP and rock a dual boot - problem is, i don't know if that will work
[21:11] <velko> lubos_, and it does not offer you a list of possible locales to install? it should
[21:11] <miller9time> Hello all!
[21:11] <OldGreg> I already have linux, and therefore GRUB, installed, and I fear it will get real messy real quick
[21:11] <miller9time> Has anyone had any luck connecting their motorola v9m to gutsy?
[21:11] <StrangeCharm_> OldGreg: it's normally easier to install windows first for that very reason. have you got a spare hdd or a usb stick or something?
[21:12] <K_Nine> OldGreg If it is working fine, maybe you don't want to upgrade.
[21:12] <lubos_> velko: NO :-) it was so simple in debian and they say that ubuntu is user friendly !! :-)
[21:12] <OldGreg> any ideas?
[21:12] <velko> lubos_, yep. but i'm not able to help you further because i use debian proper
[21:13] <nixnoob> can anyone tell me how to get the logitech dual action gamepad to work in zsnes
[21:13] <StrangeCharm_> OldGreg: you could just disconnect your primary disk, install windows to another one, do your stuff, then put it back
[21:13] <OldGreg> it's got some read issues
[21:13] <lubos_> velko: thanks anyway..
[21:14] <miller9time> has anyone in here had success connecting their motorola phone to gutsy?
[21:14] <velko> lubos_, np man :-)
[21:15] <MrObvious> In lieu I have a similar problem, I have a laptop that I have put Linux on because when I bought it used I couldn't get the password for logging in and just decided since I liked Linux better I'd install that. Well this laptop came with Vista Basic which I would need to get Bluetooth working and maybe some other Windows specific things. What's the best way to do this?
[21:15] <K_Nine> nixnoob maybe this would help i had the same problem with my logitech dual action joypad and grid wars.
[21:15] <K_Nine> grid wars looks for /dev/js0 for the first gamepad, but my pad was under /dev/input/js0
[21:15] <K_Nine> a simple 'sudo ln -s /dev/input/js0 /dev/js0' (the command creates a symbolic link) solved the problem and the pad works now with grid wars
[21:15] <OldGreg> k_nine: the drive works, but it took forever to even install due to the inability to read properly - all CDs tried were fine. According to the Dell site, the firmware update fixed some read issues
[21:16] <K_Nine> OldGreg Are you having read issues?
[21:16] <nixnoob> K_Nine, im having trouble having the gamepad rexognize any key presses in super mario world...
[21:16] <OldGreg> and I can't use someone else's machine to update it, since this thing is a bit aged, and the connectors aren't used by dell anymore
[21:16] <StrangeCharm_> MrObvious: what would you need windows for? are you sure there aren't drivers?
[21:16] <K_Nine> nixnoob Have you gone to the game site to see if there are overall issues with the game pad in that game/
[21:16] <nixnoob> K_Nine, zsnes wont even let me select the gamepad in device selection
[21:16] <dim> #ubuntu-gr
[21:16] <StrangeCharm_> OldGreg: and the problem with an alternate disk is...?
[21:17] <MrObvious> StrangeCharm_: Dell was retarded and I need a driver update for Vista for the bluetooth stuff. I did some searching on the Ubuntu Forums, then the Ubuntu drivers will work. Basically something has to be enabled.
[21:17] <nixnoob> K_Nine, its covered by esa so i think using this game in emulators is frowned upon in general
[21:17] <StrangeCharm_> MrObvious: wait, there are drivers available, and you installed ubuntu and it works?
[21:18] <OldGreg> k_nine: so yeah, there are some issues
[21:18] <MrObvious> StrangeCharm_: I like Linux better but I would like to play with Bluetooth to see if my phone (Alltel PPC6700) will transfer files or something.
[21:18] <StrangeCharm_> MrObvious: sorry, i don't think i see where your problem lies. what isn't working?
[21:19] <deufrai> hi guys. I just installed a framebuffer in my gutsy  gibbon, and since then, my 2 external USB drives won't mount as asked in /etc/fstab anymore
[21:19] <MrObvious> StrangeCharm_: No, Vista has a driver update that Linux can't do that enables the right stuff that Dell disabled in building the laptop so bluetooth works. Several people must dual-boot and they have fixed it by downloading the new drivers in Vista and then rebooting to Linux and BT worked.
[21:19] <K_Nine> MrObvious Gentoo has a guide for Bluetooth  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml
[21:19] <Shinobi> hi i just updated my alsa version and now i m getting this when i try to enter the volume control thingi No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:19] <MrObvious> K_Nine: This isn't Gentoo. :p
[21:20] <K_Nine> MrObvious But the guide is generic.
[21:20] <StrangeCharm_> MrObvious: well, you can either install vista to do some sort of arcane magic, or you can search for another fix, or you can call dell and have them fix it
[21:20] <miller9time> Does anyone have any suggestions for connecting my Motorola Razr 2 v9m to ubuntu?
[21:20] <Talon> This is my first time installing Linux, is there anything i need to be careful about it is it just a straight forward install situation?
[21:20] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: use the cable that comes in the box?
[21:21] <brobostigon> miller9time: bluetooth
[21:21] <StrangeCharm_> Talon: do you have an data on your hdd
[21:21] <K_Nine> Talon Back up.
[21:21] <miller9time> I have a microusb cable but when I plug it in nothing happens
[21:21] <miller9time> I don't have bluetooth on my laptop
[21:21] <Talon> Im gonna wipe vista off my laptop(i dont like vista) and install it on in.
[21:21] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: use names so that people see that you're talking to them. what were you expecting to happen?
[21:21] <Shinobi> bazhang, u there?
[21:21] <StrangeCharm_> Talon: is there anything that you can't afford to be deleted?
[21:21] <MrObvious> StrangeCharm_: IDK. I doubt Dell will fix it as it's a Vostro 1700 and doesn't come with Ubuntu by default.
[21:21] <bkar> Talon its pretty straight forward, lest you forget to make the sacrificial beer-gins.. j/k
[21:21] <miller9time> StrangeCharm: I was expecting it to show up like a usb drive does
[21:22] <Talon> Nope, my laptop is totaly data expendable
[21:22] <K_Nine> Talon You may want to check the hardware page to see if your laptop is supported or the linux laptop page.
[21:22] <Shinobi> K_Nine,  hi i just updated my alsa version and now i m getting this when i try to enter the volume control thingi No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:22] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: I was expecting it to show up like a usb drive does
[21:22] <StrangeCharm_> MrObvious: just ask them for some drivers
[21:23] <K_Nine> Talon http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[21:23] <bkar> Talon-> just curious, is yours a Dell latop with media direct button?
[21:23] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: with what on the driver?
[21:23] <bkar> laptop*
[21:23] <brobostigon> miller9time: what does lsusb, dmesg tell you when its connected
[21:23] <Jordan_U> miller9time, Try the bluetooth applet at the top right of the screen
[21:23] <Talon> Nope, my laptop is a HP DV8000T
[21:23] <Jordan_U> miller9time, nvm, didn't read all your comments
[21:24] <miller9time> brobostigon: hold on let me look
[21:24] <velko> deufrai, can you mount your devices manually?
[21:25] <bkar> Talon okay..i was just reading about hidden partitions on those dells..and pressing the media direct button causing problems
[21:25] <akhilesh> Which package should I install after xserver-xorg-core to start xwindows. I get the message "No valid FontPath could be found" if I give command "startx"
[21:25] <reverendnathan> Easy one: Where do I drop new fonts?
[21:25] <K_Nine> Talon This guy got Ubuntu to work http://www.enigmacurry.com/2005/11/27/gentoo-linux-on-new-hp-dv8000z/
[21:25] <velko> akhilesh, xfonts-fixed-75dpi and 100dpi
[21:26] <steve_j> hi all
[21:26] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: what do you mean about driver?
[21:26] <steve_j> anyone here using httptunnel?
[21:26] <Shinobi> bkar,  ,  hi i just updated my alsa version and now i m getting this when i try to enter the volume control thingi No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:26] <akhilesh> could not find package :(
[21:26] <miller9time> brobostigon: all 4 lines say this Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[21:26] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: typo, i meant drive. what drive were you expecting to be mounted?
[21:26] <akhilesh> whats the exact package name ?
[21:26] <Talon> K_nine -> Reading that link now, thankyou
[21:27] <bkar> Shinobi-> i have no sound, cant help you on that..i pass
[21:27] <brandon__> why do sound events not work?
[21:27] <velko> akhilesh, well then look for it harder - i'm typing out of my head. apt-cache search xfonts | grep 75
[21:27] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: I was hoping it would act just like a usb device and add an icon to my desktop
[21:27] <brobostigon> miller9time: it not a recognised usb device, then, i dont know what to advise, not sure, sorry
[21:27] <Shinobi> bkar, ok just that one else seems to notice i ve posted three times..dont want to be banned for flooding or repeating ;) thanks neways
[21:27] <Skwerl`> I currently have 11 apache processes using about 15% of my system's gig of memory. Is this normal?
[21:28] <pine> DRebellion, I found the solution at last
[21:28] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: no, but i mean, what were you expecting to see on the drive? what filesystem were you expecting to be mounted?
[21:28] <bkar> Shinobi no problem..
[21:28] <Shinobi>  hi i just updated my alsa version from 1.0.14 to 1.0.15 and now i m getting this when i try to enter the volume control thingi No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:28] <brandon__> anyone know why sound events do not work?
[21:28] <incorrect> this is strange, i can configure my system to use its local ldap server to get user names and passwords, however when i reboot i can no longer log in
[21:28] <b4l74z4r> i have a folder in my file system that i can't paste anything into, how do i change that?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Skwerl`, Apache runs as many processes so that if one goes down the others aren't affected
[21:28] <pine> remove the specific ip from /var/lib/hosts, cuz it will keep track of number of failed logins
[21:28] <LjL> Shinobi, why did you update?
[21:29] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: It should have a motorola folder that I can move music to
[21:29] <akhilesh> velko: hey got it, thanks. Installing those font now.
[21:29] <Shinobi> LjL, because my mic was not working
[21:29] <nixnoob> mupen
[21:29] <velko> Shinobi, is gstreamer0.10-alsa installed?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Skwerl`whether the amount of processes / RAM is normal depends on what you are using it for
[21:29] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: should? you mean that it acts like that somewhere else?
[21:29] <LjL> Shinobi you do realize the packaged and supported version is 1.0.14
[21:30] <miller9time> yes on my roommates vista machine
[21:30] <agruman> heya, i just compiled a new kernel and now my network does not work, however i see eth0 and eth1 with 'ifconfig -a' but 'ifup ethX' says "ignoring unknown interface ethX=ethX" dmesg shows both my nics drivers loading and all seems fine, can there be something else in the kernel tree ive missed?
[21:30] <Shinobi> velko, how do i find out
[21:30] <velko> Shinobi, sorry - i can't help you with that
[21:30] <Shinobi> LjL, yes but my mic was not working but i ll reinstall 1.0.14 from synaptic and try to make it work again
[21:31] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: what happens in dmesg when you connect it? does the phone ask you what mode to connect in?
[21:31] <jack-desktop> Does anyone know what the folder dwhelper is?
[21:31] <cheesypieces> guys, i have a .package file, how do i use it?
[21:31] <jack-desktop> it keeps coming back in my home folder
[21:31] <Flare183> !autopackage | cheesypieces
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <bkar> agruman-> if you launch network-manager applet, enable or activate it there,  what that activate does..im still researching
[21:31] <Flare183> oops
[21:31] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: I don't know what to look for in dmesg there is a lot of information.  The phone has two options usb drive and modem, I have it set to usb drive
[21:32] <syntaxerror55> cheesypieces: It's an Autopackage file.
[21:32] <Flare183> cheesypieces: run it using "/"
[21:32] <nirc> hi
[21:32] <nirc> alles klar?
[21:32] <Flare183> !hi | nrp
[21:32] <ubotu> nrp: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:32] <syntaxerror55> cheesypieces: What's in it? It's probably in the repos.
[21:32] <Flare183> crap
[21:33] <cheesypieces> its aMSN 0.97
[21:33] <Totophe> Hi guys
[21:33] <syntaxerror55> Flare183: messing up a lot today ;D
[21:33] <Totophe> Is somebody familiar with postfix ?
[21:33] <syntaxerror55> !info amsn | cheesypieces
[21:33] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: look at dmesg. then plug in the phone and update it. what are the last two lines at the end?
[21:33] <Flare183> syntaxerror55: yeah don't know why
[21:33] <Flare183> syntaxerror55: think I need to slow down some
[21:33] <ubotu> cheesypieces: amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[21:33] <syntaxerror55> cheesypieces: I've actually run that autopackage. I can't quite remember how, but try ./packagename in Bash.
[21:33] <brandon__> anyone know how to enable esd server on ubuntu?
[21:34] <syntaxerror55> cheesypieces: and if you're using Gusty, it's already in the repos
[21:34] <agruman> bkar both interfaces are disabled there, and i am unable to enable them :(
[21:34] <Flare183> !esd | brandon__
[21:34] <cheesypieces> yes it is, but it tells me there is a new version available
[21:34] <ubotu> brandon__: esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[21:34] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_:[223484.076000] scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[21:34] <miller9time> [223484.076000] scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[21:34] <cheesypieces> and when i get it from the amsn site it gives me a package file
[21:34] <velko> !anyone > Totophe
[21:34] <cheesypieces> which i have no idea how to use
[21:34] <Skwerl`> Hehe, gusty sounds like said gibbon is full of air
[21:34] <syntaxerror55> cheesypieces: http://www.autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/
[21:35] <cheesypieces> thanks guys
[21:35] <brandon__> flare183, but it is needed to play sound events
[21:35] <Flare183> cheesypieces: use synaptic to install it
[21:35] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, I want to take my current install of ubuntu server and clone it to a new hard drive so I can switch, how can i do this?
[21:35] <Flare183> brandon__: then make it use alsa
[21:35] <DRebellion> !clone | solexious
[21:35] <ubotu> solexious: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[21:35] <StrangeCharm_> miller9time: that's the only one?
[21:35] <Flare183> solexious: yeap
[21:35] <Totophe> My problem is that Postfix do not seems to process the queue.
[21:36] <solexious> Its not a new machine
[21:36] <velko> solexious, if the installation will be on the same partition (say hda1 to hda1) you can just copy all files
[21:36] <bkar> agruman umm check and see if anything under /lib/firmware/`uname -r` will give you hints
[21:36] <agruman> bkar hmm "ifconfig eth0 <ip>" works :/
[21:36] <brandon__> flare183, are you using gutsy? if so, does your sound events "just work" when you enable them?
[21:36] <Laggyware> Just out of interest, Is anyone here interested in a TrueCrypt GUI? I'm in the process of making one (python/glade) at a friends request, and was wondering if It was worth posting up somewhere?
[21:36] <solexious> No, new hard drive
[21:36] <bkar> agruman cool..you got it fixed
[21:37] <Flare183> brandon__: yeap worked perfectly when I upgraded to gutsy
[21:37] <DRebellion> Lattyware: sourceforge?
[21:37] <titusg> hi, I tried to upgrade feisty->gutsy a few months ago and my wifi card screwed up. It's belkin w/ realtek driver and the kernel module meant that the os wouldn't boot...anyone know if this is sorted or where I can find out?
[21:37] <ryan_> StrangeCharm_: there are about 15 lines that say exactly that then here are the next 3 [223484.048000] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 5
[21:37] <syntaxerror55> Lattyware: TrueCrypt?
[21:37] <ryan_> [223484.048000] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[21:37] <ryan_> [223484.048000] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 1
[21:37] <Flare183> brandon__: and yeap it worked when i got upgraded to it
[21:37] <syntaxerror55> !paste | ryan_
[21:37] <ubotu> ryan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:37] <Lattyware> DRebellion: Yeah, Somewhere like that.
[21:37] <Flare183> yeah not pasting in the channel use a pastebin
[21:37] <nixnoob> anyone know how to get the logitech dual action gamepad working in gutsy?  I cant get it to work at all?
[21:37] <Lattyware> syntaxerror55: The encryption software.
[21:37] <brandon__> so you must have esd
[21:38] <syntaxerror55> Lattyware: like gnupg?
[21:38] <DRebellion> Lattyware: go for it. slap on a gpl license and help the world.
[21:38] <brandon__> becuase sound events only work with esd enabled
[21:38] <killaz> hi guys I'm trying to install pidgin on Edgy.. but I don't see it in the repository. I have the backports repos installed
[21:38] <brandon__> and my install doesnt seem to come with esd
[21:38] <nemilar> syntaxerror55: truecyrpt can be used to encrypt entire drives and whatnot
[21:38] <Lattyware> syntaxerror55: Yeah, but it has features such as plausible deniability and stuff.
[21:38] <killaz> Can you give me a hint how to accomplish this?
[21:38] <magnetron> killaz: on edgy, it's called gaim.
[21:38] <agruman> bkar seems my /etc/network/interfaces was empty, strange though that it worked with my previous kernel :/
[21:39] <nemilar> syntaxerror55: plus you can make it look like it's not encrypted, or something like that.  Very Cool Stuff (TM)
[21:39] <syntaxerror55> Lattyware: I'd be interested
[21:39] <agruman> bkar thanks for the help though :)
[21:39] <bkar> agruman np
[21:39] <syntaxerror55> nemilar: Thank U(TM)
[21:39] <nemilar> Lattyware: yeah if you're writing a GUI for it, definitely put it on sourceforge and freshmeat!
[21:39] <miller9time> StrangeCharm_: sorry got disconnected here is the only thing dmesg says about usb [223484.048000] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 5
[21:39] <killaz> magnetron: ok... I had gaim, but uninstalled it so I can install pidgin
[21:39] <solexious> I need to format a NEW hard drive and copy my installation from my current hard drive to it. On the same box
[21:39] <killaz> magnetron: thinking I can et the newer versio
[21:40] <Lattyware> OK, will do then.
[21:40] <syntaxerror55> killaz: Pidgin isn't in the Edgy repos.
[21:40] <syntaxerror55> !info gaim edgy | killaz
[21:40] <ubotu> killaz: gaim (source: gaim): multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[21:40] <Lattyware> It's more of a personal favour, a few friends of mine use TrueCrypt a lot, but hate the lack of a Linux GUI
[21:40] <KaiForce> anyway to get SMART info from a drive connected via USB?
[21:40] <Lattyware> apparently there is one that exists, but I am assured that it is uselessly bad.
[21:40] <nemilar> Lattyware: let me know when you release it, I'd be interest in using it
[21:41] <KaiForce> Lattyware i recently saw that, may have improved
[21:41] <velko> Lattyware, if the gui is written using gtk+ you can consider putting it on www.gnomefiles.org
[21:41] <Shinobi> how do u delete directories in ubuntu
[21:41] <syntaxerror55> Lattyware: let me know too.
[21:41] <nemilar> Shinobi: via the command line? rm -fr
[21:41] <xMS_user> is ikonia here
[21:41] <killaz> syntaxerror55: I know that, but I thought maybe you can tell me of a way to install it like a backport or something..
[21:41] <Lattyware> will do.
[21:41] <nemilar> Shinobi: via the gui, right click and delete
[21:41] <syntaxerror55> Shinobi: rm -rf /path/to/directory (NEVER REMOVE /boot or /)
[21:41] <KaiForce> Lattyware are you making a TC gui?
[21:41] <nemilar> lol
[21:41] <syntaxerror55> killaz: you could compile it
[21:41] <nemilar> If someone tells you to do rm -fr / ... uhh...
[21:42] <magnetron> killaz: i don't think you will get that newer version without updating to a newer release (Gutsy). however, you could download it from a third party ( getdeb ), but we cannot provide support for that solution.
[21:42] <Flare183> Ok, i'm helping a friend use xubuntu and he wants to connect to the internet through a usb cable. Is that possible?
[21:42] <Talon> How does the wireless networking work with linux, is it like windows with user friendly Guis or is it command line ?
[21:42] <Lattyware> KaiForce: Either way I'll write one, just to put in features my friends request, basically :P
[21:42] <Lattyware> Yeah
[21:42] <syntaxerror55> killaz: I can help you compile it.
[21:42] <nemilar> Flare183: with a usb-ethernet converter, sure or USB wireless converter
[21:42] <DRebellion> Talon: gui
[21:42] <akhilesh> why cant ubuntu install everything including fonts when I install xserver-xorg-core !
[21:42] <syntaxerror55> Talon: there are GUIs
[21:42] <nemilar> Flare183: some cable modems have USB ports, too
[21:42] <unicum> if i wanna explain xchat to give me a highlight on, let's say, "younicum" when my nick is "unicum" wouldn't "*unicum*" be the right syntax?
[21:42] <killaz> syntaxerror55: Yup, that was my last option..... no I know how to compile the apps..
[21:42] <KaiForce> cool, although I'm equally comfortable in linux cmd line or windows gui with TC
[21:43] <titusg> so what do you reckon guys -- will I be lucky this time with gutsy & my wifi card or should I stick with feisty?
[21:43] <akhilesh> Why is it that I need to install each thing one by one. Am I missing something ?
[21:43] <Talon> Im glad theres guis im not the best with command lines
[21:43] <Flare183> nemilar: but like, how can I tell xubuntu to do that?
[21:43] <Lattyware> That's the plan anyway. Shouldn't be too hard. Already made the GUI in glade, just putting in all of the basic window-opening&closing bits, then I just need to add in the calls to truecrypt.
[21:43] <DRebellion> titusg: wireless is improving all the time
[21:43] <nemilar> Flare183: which option are you going with?
[21:43] <xMS_user> I lost my home dir
[21:43] <killaz> syntaxerror55: but If I could get the deb/bin in the repos would have been great..
[21:43] <syntaxerror55> killaz: Well, you can't. :| If you want help with compiling, I can.
[21:43] <Jordan_U> titusg, Test with a LiveCD
[21:43] <killaz> syntaxerror55: I think I'm just gonna stick with Gaim...
[21:43] <Flare183> nemilar: well he has a usb cable that is connected to a usb dsl router/modem
[21:43] <syntaxerror55> killaz: Wise choice
[21:43] <nemilar> Flare183: if it's straight to the cable modem, you might be SOL...I doubt there are drivers for it, but could look
[21:44] <DRebellion> xMS_user: you deleted it or what?
[21:44] <nemilar> Flare183: what's the make/model of the router?
[21:44] <titusg> Jordan_U: that's a great idea, why didn't I think of that :-)
[21:44] <Flare183> nemilar: I don't know i'm not at his house right now
[21:44] <jason_> hello all
[21:44] <pine> killaz, gajim is better than gaim !!
[21:44] <syntaxerror55> Lattyware: sounds interesting. :D The only encryption software I've ever used is GnuPG, but I'm very interested in how this will go.
[21:44] <pine> killaz, try it !
[21:44] <nemilar> Flare183: it'd be plug-n-play if he just used an ethernet cable like the rest of the civilized world ;)
[21:44] <syntaxerror55> !better | pine
[21:45] <ubotu> pine: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:45] <Flare183> nemilar: main question is can you connect to the internet through a usb cable using a usb port
[21:45] <brobostigon> Flare183: the better solution is to use ethernet to connect to cble modem
[21:45] <xMS_user> i was copying from one home dir to another via command line. i typed mv -vt /raid1/angel/* /home/angel and mv -vi /raid1/angel/.*
[21:45] <Flare183> brobostigon: i know but this is the only option
[21:45] <nemilar> Flare183: if there are drivers for the modem, then yeah, sure
[21:45] <titusg> Jordan_U: but would the livecd have updates on it or be the same gutsy one I tried months ago?
[21:45] <pine> plz, mom is here
[21:45] <Flare183> brobosok
[21:45] <brandon__> flare183, i had to install package esound and set Sound Events to ESD to get sound events to work.... will not work with alsa
[21:45] <brobostigon> Flare183: i have never had it working over usb, so no idea.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> titusg, It would be the same gutsy
[21:45] <Flare183> brandon__: well thats good
[21:45] <jason_> can any one link me to the ultamate ubuntu desktop?
[21:45] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: Big oops. You told it to delete every above directory
[21:46] <nemilar> I've never actually heard of someone using the USB port on their modem until now
[21:46] <Lattyware> syntaxerror55: Yeah. My friends are not coders in any way, and they made the suggestion, and I was OK with it, but they keep adding lists of 'features' they think would be cool. I'm just going to focus on getting something working first :P
[21:46] <Flare183> brobostigon: i know
[21:46] <Jordan_U> jason_, "Ubuntu Ultimate" Is a hack
[21:46] <Some_Person> Hey! Any idea why WAV's sound crackly in totem-xine?
[21:46] <brandon__> you really want ultimate ubuntu
[21:46] <jason_> is a hac
[21:46] <nemilar> Some_Person: because totem is junk ;)
[21:46] <titusg> Jordan_U: then I'd be in big trouble -- couldn't even boot to a terminal
[21:46] <jason_> hmm
[21:46] <pine> yeah totem is junk
[21:46] <jason_> me?
[21:46] <nemilar> I wish gnome would use something more sensible
[21:46] <syntaxerror55> jason_: It's not worth it. It's horribly bloted.
[21:46] <jason_> i want to get my graphics card working right
[21:47] <xMS_user> DRebellion: then i was getting error messages about /home/angel being missing when i tried to browse the web while it was still copying. i ran both command at the same time via 2 diffrent terminal windows
[21:47] <KaiForce> Some_Person try lowering the PCM volume
[21:47] <pine> vlc or mplayer,
[21:47] <nemilar> Yeah, mplayer has some great GUI's, Gnome should use one instead of that totem garbage
[21:47] <Some_Person> KaiForce: still crackly
[21:47] <brobostigon> Flare183: if its anyting like a winmodem then it probebly wont work
[21:47] <brandon__> is there any all in one gnome multimedia thing?
[21:47] <Some_Person> KaiForce: MP3's and other files and stuff sound fine
[21:47] <xMS_user> i logged off and then when i tried to log in it said /home/angel does not exists
[21:47] <killaz> pine: thanks for the info I will take a look at it..
[21:47] <el_macnifico> vlc is better to dvds
[21:47] <nemilar> brandon__: that's what totem is
[21:47] <jason_> Jordan i thouhgt it was a guide and not a hack
[21:47] <Flare183> brobostigon: well its the bellsouth dsl modem
[21:48] <DRebellion> xMS_user: just make another one and chown it
[21:48] <KaiForce> Some_Person don't know then.
[21:48] <pine> well I use mplayer without GUI, from command line, thats the beauty of it
[21:48] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: You told it to delete every directory above it. Bash thought when you said .*, you were including .*
[21:48] <nemilar> brandon__: but the consensus is that totem is The Worst Program Ever Written
[21:48] <brandon__> nemilar, no... with a library, kinda like rhytembox
[21:48] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: er, including .., which in Linux stands for a directory above the current one.
[21:48] <nemilar> brandon__: you mean that does both music and movies?
[21:48] <eugman|work> Does wine work for the command line?
[21:48] <brandon__> nemilar, yes
[21:48] <pine> brandon try vlc or mplayer
[21:48] <DRebellion> eugman|work: yes
[21:48] <syntaxerror55> eugman|work: yes. wine windowsprogram.exe
[21:48] <xMS_user> DRebellion: not a problrm. but how do i recove from the years of work and 132gb lost
[21:49] <DRebellion> xMS_user: you don't
[21:49] <nemilar> brandon__: hmm, not that I know of..
[21:49] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: You can't
[21:49] <KaiForce> xMS_user:  restore from your backup
[21:49] <titusg> Is there a list of supported wifi cards somewehere?
[21:49] <lesshaste> what's the schedule for the release after gutsy gibbon?
[21:49] <brandon__> nemilar, kinda like windows media player... no offence to anyone
[21:49] <syntaxerror55> !hardy | lesshaste
[21:49] <ubotu> lesshaste: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:49] <velko> xMS_user, yeah, create a new home directory, copy over your backup files and you're done
[21:49] <nemilar> haha
[21:49] <KaiForce> certainly years of work would be backed up
[21:49] <nemilar> brandon__: I think the new version of totem is supposed to have library support, or something
[21:49] <jason_> can some one link me to the guide for the ultamate guide for creating the best desktop?
[21:49] <lesshaste> syntaxerror55, thanks...
[21:49] <nemilar> brandon__: will be out in a couple of months
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> lesshaste: You're welcome :
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> :D*
[21:50] <xMS_user> KaiForce: syntaxerror55: DRebellion: velko: that was my back up. i did a mv instead of a cp and now the source and the det are gone. but i donot understand how
[21:50] <nemilar> !best | jason
[21:50] <ubotu> jason: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:50] <brandon__> nemilar, ok.. guess ill just have to wait
[21:50] <lesshaste> how do I find out if gutsy supports a rt73 wireless dongle?
[21:50] <KaiForce> man seems like gutsy just released
[21:50] <Jordan_U> jason_, There are many guides for "The ultimate Ubuntu Setup" ( most of which aren't worth reading ) and one hacked together distro called "Ubuntu Ultimate" that is both a copyright violation and bloated POS ( I am a little opinionated BTW :)
[21:50] <lesshaste> I can't install it otherwise
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: well, you can't get it back. In Linux, rm means rm
[21:50] <pepperjack> jason_: if you want to be leet youll need to run gnome-panel in kde4
[21:50] <KaiForce> xMS_user i don't know what you did, but if you can tell me I might be able to help
[21:50] <nemilar> lesshaste: the rt73 seems to be supported, yes
[21:50] <lesshaste> nemilar, how did you work that out?
[21:50] <jason_> lol
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> KaiForce: she rm ~/.*
[21:51] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[21:51] <^Elfboy> will ubuntu server or desktop log on to internet or will the user have to do it when he logsin
[21:51] <KaiForce> that doesn't sound like a mv
[21:51] <xMS_user> syntaxerror55: i never did rm i did mv
[21:51] <tushyd> when I press control-shift-f1, i just get a blinking line... whats up?
[21:51] <brandon__> elfboy, automatic
[21:51] <nemilar> lesshaste: I googled it...says there are drivers.
[21:51] <jason_> hmm
[21:51] <syntaxerror55> xMS_user: oh, sorry. What was the command?
[21:51] <nemilar> lesshaste: I'll be back in a minute, I'll check for you if they're included by default
[21:51] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, Why?
[21:51] <lesshaste> nemilar, thanks. what is a good url?
[21:51] <^Elfboy> thats brandon
[21:51] <nemilar> lesshaste: just drop me a message in like 5 minutes
[21:51] <^Elfboy> thanks
[21:51] <jason_> im on ubuntu right now :)
[21:51] <brandon__> elfboy, np
[21:51] <lesshaste> nemilar, ok
[21:51] <velko> tushyd, this is a virtual console. you have six of them (F1 - F6) and on F7 is your gui session
[21:52] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: If s/he moved it, it should be somewhere. Or at least that's my thinking.
[21:52] <xMS_user> KaiForce: syntaxerror55: i was copying from one home dir to another via command line. i typed mv -vt /raid1/angel/* /home/angel and mv -vi /raid1/angel/.*
[21:52] <jason_> and im not trying to hack it
[21:52] <tokok> does WinPcap works in Wine? i tried to setup windows-based sniffer in wine useing WinPcap...
[21:52] <tushyd> velko, I know that, but I just get a blinking line... i can't actually type anything
[21:52] <syntaxerror55> jason_: in Linux, hacking is a good thing
[21:52] <DRebellion> tokok: ahem, kismet
[21:52] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, If that's what she ran then luckily it's only  her preferences that are lost
[21:52] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[21:52] <jason_> lol
[21:52] <jason_> i hack my psp
[21:52] <velko> tushyd, maybe the consoles are disabled in inttab?
[21:53] <Talon> Jason: Me too :)
[21:53] <The_entropy> DRebellion, hey again, running the distribution upgrade tool, we'll see how this thing goes
[21:53] <jason_> lol
[21:53] <tushyd> velko, how do I enable it then?
[21:53] <DRebellion> The_entropy: good luck
[21:53] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: but it should have went up to ..
[21:53] <velko> tushyd, look in the file /etc/inittab
[21:53] <KaiForce> ok, what did you end up with ?  what is in /home/angel?
[21:53] <The_entropy> DRebellion, however, it needs to download 1.2GB's worth of packages... wtf?
[21:53] <DRebellion> The_entropy: heh
[21:53] <noor> You guys i need help launching Democracy player i just installed it but its not in the application lists :'(
[21:53] <DRebellion> noor: is it gui?
[21:53] <noor> yeah
[21:53] <Flare183> DRebellion: it's miro
[21:53] <noor> im pretty sure it has one
[21:53] <rinaldi_> hi my printer is connected via usb. how can i go about sharing it to other computers on the network?
[21:53] <Flare183> !miro
[21:54] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, ... and not been able to remove it without the -r switch
[21:54] <noor> yeah miro
[21:54] <syntaxerror55> noor: Type democracy
[21:54] <pepperjack> noor: its known as miro now
[21:54] <The_entropy> DRebellion, problem is, I'm on a limited bandwidth connection(very low quota)
[21:54] <Talon> In windows im only allowed to install HP specific drivers for my graphics card, in linux can i install any drivers i want ?
[21:54] <Flare183> come on bot
[21:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:54] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: I didn't know the full story at first. :|
[21:54] <velko> noor, in debian it's named democracyplayer
[21:54] <Flare183> !democracy
[21:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:54] <The_entropy> DRebellion, is there any way to pause and resume this thing?
[21:54] <chump> hey guys i'm looking for an ls type command that will also give me human readable size of files
[21:54] <noor> WOOOT IT WORKED
[21:54] <noor> XD
[21:54] <Flare183> !search miro
[21:54] <ubotu> Found:
[21:54] <noor> lol thx
[21:54] <DRebellion> The_entropy: nope
[21:54] <Flare183> nevermind
[21:54] <tushyd> velko, I don't have a /etc/inittab
[21:54] <noor> thx guys sorry for caps i got excited
[21:54] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, I am confused, what is the situation exactly?
[21:55] <DRebellion> chump: ls -sh iirc
[21:55] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: I'm a bit confused too. <xMS_user> KaiForce: syntaxerror55: i was copying from one home dir to another via command line. i typed mv -vt /raid1/angel/* /home/angel and mv -vi /raid1/angel/.*
[21:55] <KaiForce> xMS_user can you pastebin your .bash_history?
[21:55] <velko> tushyd, really? oh, ubuntu uses upstart or something. so i can't help you. i'm still using the classic technology
[21:55] <DRebellion> KaiForce: its gone now ;)
[21:55] <KaiForce> oh yeah
[21:55] <The_entropy> DRebellion, at this point it seems easier to download the install CD and do an install from scratch >_>
[21:55] <nemilar> lesshaste: hey
[21:55] <tushyd> velko, thanks anyways
[21:55] <DRebellion> The_entropy: yarp
[21:55] <KaiForce> well none of those commands (that s/he sent) were an rm
[21:55] <lesshaste> nemilar, hi
[21:55] <The_entropy> DRebellion, so much for automated distribution upgrade...
[21:56] <syntaxerror55> The_entropy: sometimes things go wrong.
[21:56] <etronik> hey all! anybosy using Bacula under 6.06 !?
[21:56] <KaiForce> xMS_user are you stil with us?
[21:56] <xMS_user> yes KaiForce
[21:56] <DRebellion> KaiForce: no, he just rm -rf / 'ed his computer
[21:56] <Jordan_U> The_entropy, What happened with the upgrade? What went wrong?
[21:56] <KaiForce> did you run an "rm" command?
[21:57] <MrObvious> DRebellion: Err...not funny.
[21:57] <Talon> Is it bad when it says cannot allocate region * from Bridge *****
[21:57] <nemilar> lesshaste: ubuntu's documentation says that it works plug-n-play with Gusty
[21:57] <The_entropy> Jordan_U, nothing went wrong, it just needs to download twice as much as I would need for a fresh install(around 1.25GB)
[21:57] <xMS_user> is there an important file that when overwritten i would lose my connection /home/angel?
[21:57] <lesshaste> nemilar, have you got a url for that?
[21:57] <pepperjack> xMS_user: /etc/passwd :)
[21:57] <KaiForce> was /home/angel mounted remotely?
[21:57] <The_entropy> Jordan_U, and I have a very low download quota on this computer
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> Ttech: I lol'd at your /quit
[21:57] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, Can you catch me up on the problem you are having?
[21:57] <DRebellion> !minimal | The_entropy
[21:57] <ubotu> The_entropy: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> The_entropy: I have that problem too.
[21:58] <tushyd> anyone? ctrl-shift-f1 won't start a terminal
[21:58] <nemilar> lesshaste: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[21:58] <DRebellion> tushyd: tried f2?
[21:58] <KaiForce> yes xMS_user, i think I'm missing information as well
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> tushyd: Known bug
[21:58] <meoblast001> hello... im having trouble with sauerbraten.... when i run it, it crashes and goes back to my desktop, when i run it in the terminal, the error message is an extemely long string of linebreaks and the terminal begins to use odd characters in place of normal characters... can someone please help me
[21:58] <meoblast001> ?
[21:58] <tushyd> yes, none of the F's work
[21:58] <Ttech> syntaxerror55, what was it?
[21:58] <The_entropy> syntaxerror55, very low == 2GB/month
[21:58] <KaiForce> what else happened
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> The_entropy: here it's 200MB/day
[21:59] <koresak> is here anybody can here me?-)
[21:59] <tushyd> syntaxerror55, any fixes?
[21:59] <ed_> meoblast001: i also used sauerbrated
[21:59] <Rafiki> :/join bash
[21:59] <ed_> meoblast001: i also used sauerbraten
[21:59] <brandon__> what is the best p2p application... maybe something with built in playback support
[21:59] <syntaxerror55> tushyd: I'm looking up the topic.
[21:59] <lesshaste> nemilar, thanks
[21:59] <The_entropy> syntaxerror55, so that's an estimated 6GB/month, still somewhat better
[21:59] <nemilar> lesshaste: np
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !anyone | koresak
[21:59] <ed_> meoblast001: can you post the output on pastebin
[21:59] <ubotu> koresak: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:59] <lesshaste> I'll try it out with a new install dvd
[21:59] <DRebellion> brandon__: bittorrent in my opinion
[21:59] <ed_> meoblast001: run it like "./exec_name > file.txt"
[21:59] <nemilar> brandon__: which p3p service?
[21:59] <KaiForce> sorry, i need to go.  Jordan_U save xMS_user
[21:59] <nemilar> p2p***
[21:59] <etronik_> re
[21:59] <ed_> meoblast001: and paste the resulting file.txt
[21:59] <brandon__> gnutella
[21:59] <etronik_> so anybody using bacula ?
[21:59] <Ttech> syntaxerror55, what was it?
[21:59] <The_entropy> syntaxerror55, the nightly traffic(11pm to 8am) isn't counted, but I doubt this will finish in 1 night
[22:00] <brandon__> nemilar, gnutella with build in playback support... if possible
[22:00] <The_entropy> syntaxerror55, and there's no way to pause and resume apparently =\
[22:00] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, What is the problem you are having?
[22:00] <MrObvious> brandon__: Frostwire.
[22:00] <DRebellion> The_entropy: of course it will finish in one night
[22:00] <syntaxerror55> tushyd: Here's the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910 and the workaround: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582962
[22:00] <brandon__> nemilar, not limewire though
[22:00] <akhilesh> When I typed startx, Xwindows started and said: "Xsession: uable to start X session ---- no /home/akhilesh/.xsession file found, no /home/akhilesh.Xsession file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found; aborting""
[22:00] <akhilesh> what do I do next ?
[22:00] <DRebellion> The_entropy: what is your down speed?
[22:00] <nemilar> brandon__: I don't think you'll find one with play-back support
[22:00] <xMS_user> i did not run that command
[22:00] <lukasz> hey people
[22:00] <tushyd> syntaxerror55, thanks
[22:00] <lukasz> My laptopt warms up on certain games :(
[22:00] <nemilar> brandon__: the unix philosophy is generally, "one program, one task" or "do one thing and do it right"
[22:00] <lukasz> It works louder as well
[22:01] <koresak> ubotu: Sorry. I am a lecture and I test IRC client of my student... I'll quit in a second :-)
[22:01] <velko> akhilesh, install a window manger?
[22:01] <The_entropy> DRebellion, theoretically 512kb, but it's usually between 250ish and 380ish
[22:01] <lukasz> helllllp
[22:01] <xMS_user> what does mount remotly mean? i created the partitions during the instalation
[22:01] <DRebellion> The_entropy: then 1.2 gb is nothing for the night.
[22:01] <nemilar> xMS_user: could you clarify your question?
[22:01] <flyinghippo> Has anybody here had success installing Ubuntu on a Macbook, or any other Macintosh computer?
[22:01] <The_entropy> DRebellion, tool is estimating it needs 11ish hours
[22:01] <ed_> lukasz: so when did that start happening?
[22:01] <brandon__> nemilar, yeah, i can understand that, but gtk-gnutella doesnt even let you launch the song with a different app, you have to open it manually
[22:02] <lukasz> I run I have notomatoes once Im in the game ed_
[22:02] <nemilar> flyinghippo: for older macs (PPC) you need the PPC version of ubuntu...for the new ones, the intel version should work just fine
[22:02] <meoblast001> ed_: http://www.pastebin.ca/885386
[22:02] <Jordan_U> flyinghippo, Typing on a MBP now, why :)
[22:02] <lukasz> The game works ed_ it just warmsup and works louder
[22:02] <meoblast001> ed_: the actual error message contains many many many line breaks before that
[22:02] <brandon__> and limewire and frostwire use JAVA and it is slow and buggy, and doesnt work well with my theme \
[22:02] <Jordan_U> flyinghippo, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[22:02] <flyinghippo> Jordan_U: I've tried booting Ubuntu, among other distros, and all of the disks were rejected.  That page has nothing on it.
[22:02] <etronik_> Hi! what's the best way to upgarde 6.06 to the latest ?? I'm using server functions mostly
[22:02] <ed_> meoblast001: that's a very evil crash
[22:03] <pepperjack> etronik_: one version at a time
[22:03] <meoblast001> ed_: so im f*cked?
[22:03] <rsk> !upgrade
[22:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:03] <nemilar> brandon__: I think that's the only one out there...most people these days use bittorrent
[22:03] <ed_> lukasz: well what's the thing about notomatoes
[22:03] <Moduliz0r> What does it mean if my system crashes and the Caps lock and the Scroll lock lights are blinking?
[22:03] <ed_> meoblast001: not really
[22:03] <Jordan_U> flyinghippo, Rejected in what way? Is this an intel machine or PPC?
[22:03] <nemilar> brandon__: clients for old p2p networks don't get much attention anymore
[22:03] <syntaxerror55> etronik_: No. You have to Dapper>Edgy>Feisty>Gutsy. Or, do a fresh install. (do this one ;D)
[22:03] <ed_> meoblast001: can you run other 3d games on that machine?
[22:03] <ed_> meoblast001: like openarena?
[22:03] <tokok> "Ext3 does not do checksumming when writing to the journal. If barrier=1 is not enabled as a mount option (in /etc/fstab), and if the hardware is doing out-of-order write caching, one runs the risk of severe filesystem corruption during a crash." (c) wikipedia........ So why barrier=1 is not enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[22:03] <lukasz> So I see it will warmup on certain games ed_?
[22:04] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: crashes in what way?
[22:04] <meoblast001> ed_: i can run Nexuiz
[22:04] <etronik_> sheeesh! I do hop one at a time ?? oh boy
[22:04] <brandon__> bittorrent, is there as many resources for bittorrent, i always had a hard time using bittorent, like browser interface and such
[22:04] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: just freezes up completely
[22:04] <meoblast001> ed_: and frets on fire, and supertux
[22:04] <ed_> meoblast001: what version did you d/l
[22:04] <meoblast001> ed_: the one in the repos
[22:04] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: randomly?  or when you do something specific?
[22:04] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: does it happen often?
[22:04] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: today its been often, quite randomly
[22:05] <ed_> lukasz: well that game you're running, did it _ever_ work without warming up?
[22:05] <lukasz> it works I can run it ed_
[22:05] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: are you duel booting?
[22:05] <lukasz> It just wamrs up
[22:05] <ed_> meoblast001: i didnt knew it was in the repos
[22:05] <bkar> tokok-> i dont know, but if you want enterprise class server, i'd go with suse or redhat
[22:05] <Moduliz0r> I have been, but thats never been an issue
[22:05] <meoblast001> ed_: well i have extra repos installed
[22:05] <Moduliz0r> What could it be?
[22:05] <lukasz> But It warms my laptop up Ed
[22:05] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: I'm wondering if it could be a hardware issue
[22:06] <Moduliz0r> It may be a heat issue
[22:06] <brandon__> what bittorrent client would you say is the best?
[22:06] <ed_> lukasz: that's normal -- when you run stuff that are CPU-intensive and GPU-intensive it's kind of normal
[22:06] <brandon__> azerus?
[22:06] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: that's what I've been thinking.  Do you have temp monitors on your hardware?
[22:06] <lukasz> thnx ed_
[22:06] <ed_> lukasz: when I run openarena on my laptop it goes up to 63 C
[22:06] <velko> brandon__, i'm very happy with ktorrent
[22:06] <Moduliz0r> No I don't
[22:06] <lukasz> ic
[22:06] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, To be honest I am probably your best bet at the moment for getting help in this channel, someone who was helping you had to leave and asked me to follow up but I still have no idea what problem you are having
[22:06] <nemilar> brandon__: there are a slew of them... ktorrent, azureus, deluge, transmission ... it's a personal-taste thing
[22:06] <lukasz> then it coolsitseld off am I correct ed_?
[22:06] <Moduliz0r> Although the BIOS can tell me temperatures, can I pull those up in Linux?
[22:06] <lukasz> coolsitself off*
[22:07] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: yeah, there's an app for it... if you're in gnome, install sensors-applet
[22:07] <lukasz> Now its seems to be fine ed_ when Im not running games hehe
[22:07] <meoblast001> ed_: i have version 0.0.20070413.dfsg-1
[22:07] <Moduliz0r> ok
[22:07] <ed_> lukasz: i know
[22:07] <lukasz> Music is fine and other things just games hehe
[22:07] <lukasz> Resource hogs :P
[22:07] <ed_> meoblast001: okay I will give you a link; wait a minute
[22:08] <meoblast001> ed_: i dont want to redownload, this took 2 hours
[22:08] <steveire> !flashissues
[22:08] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:08] <nemilar> hate @ adobe
[22:08] <Moduliz0r> "No Sensors Found"
[22:08] <Shuggl1> does the guided install on ubuntu delete windows partitions
[22:08] <Shuggl1> ?
[22:08] <lukasz> Thank you ed_
[22:08] <rsk> no Shuggl1
[22:08] <xMS_user> nemilar: Jordan_U: i have a 4 partion install. sdc2 is / and sdc4 is /home. i logged into gnome and mounted my raid partition to /raid1/ and ran mv -vt/raid1/angel/* /home/angel/ i also ran mv -vi /raid1/.* /home/angel/ (i think the latter is what killed me. i overwrote some hidden file and that is when all hell broke lose) i got errors saying /home/angel does not exists while using gnome (the files seemed to continue copying though) so i 
[22:08] <ed_> lukasz: no problem the warming up is normal
[22:08] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: try installing sensord too
[22:09] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: and lm-sensors
[22:09] <Shuggl1> I gave an ubuntu cd to a friend and he used guided install
[22:09] <Moduliz0r> ok
[22:09] <Shuggl1> now his main harddrive wont boot
[22:09] <johnficca> Hi is there a native linux driver for my netgear wg511 v2 pcmcia wireless card ?
[22:09] <[BT]JaC> if i get this error: "Unable to connect. No matching comp found: client zlib server none" what do i need to install to fix it
[22:09] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: ok, installed- now what?
[22:09] <nemilar> xMS_user: with you so far...
[22:10] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: does the sensors applet find sensors now?
[22:10] <Moduliz0r> no
[22:10] <steveire> Isn't the fix for that flash issue just for ubuntu to put an updated apckage with an updated hash in the repo?
[22:10] <meoblast001> ed_: could it be that i dont have cube.... im not sure if this version of sauerbraten i have comes with cube
[22:10] <kane77> can I delete content of /tmp without breaking the system?
[22:10] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: can you run sensors-detect from the command line?
[22:10] <Moduliz0r> lets see...
[22:10] <ed_> meoblast001: normally it would end with some error about not finding the library
[22:11] <ed_> meoblast001: but no
[22:11] <nemilar> kane77: without breaking the system, yes...but you might break some stuff you're currently running, like your GUI
[22:11] <pepperjack> kane77: yes
[22:11] <Slart> kane77: perhaps
[22:11] <bkar> steveire-> i downloaded flash earlier the tar.gz, installed it and its working on 7.10
[22:11] <Decinoge> lols
[22:11] <kane77> nemilar, pepperjack Slart, thanx
[22:11] <Moduliz0r> ok i answered loads of YES
[22:11] <Spee_Der> Howdy folks
[22:11] <Moduliz0r> and Intel Core family thermal sensor is there
[22:12] <Slart> kane77: glad we got that sorted out.. we just needed someone to say "no" =)
[22:12] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: are you getting a readout?
[22:12] <Moduliz0r> yes, shall I add these lines to /etc/modules automatically?
[22:12] <bkar> !who | Moduliz0r
[22:12] <ubotu> Moduliz0r: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:12] <ed_> meoblast001: it's likely that you will have to redownload it
[22:12] <Slart> steveire: if that was the case I think they would have done that by now.. but I'm no developer
[22:12] <ed_> meoblast001: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_2007_12_24_assassin_edition_linux.tar.bz2
[22:13] <Spee_Der> I'm having a bit of a brain fart. Where do I add files to the startup routine please ?
[22:13] <meoblast001> ed_: im not the best compiler but ill try
[22:13] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: I'm not sure if it does it automatically....you might want to check and see
[22:13] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: also take a look in /etc/modprobe.d
[22:13] <ed_> meoblast001: it's already compiled
[22:13] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: what should I look for?
[22:13] <ed_> meoblast001: thing is, you'll have to run it manually, unless you create a launcher for it
[22:13] <meoblast001> ed_: ok... is it like nexuiz download.... you just untar it to a place like /opt and then run it from there
[22:13] <ed_> meoblast001: something like that
[22:13] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: i2c-sensor I believe
[22:13] <meoblast001> ed_: ill make a launcher
[22:14] <Moduliz0r> nothing
[22:14] <link2126> yeah
[22:14] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: you're currently getting a readout, though?
[22:14] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: I did when I ran whatever it was
[22:14] <ed_> meoblast001: what repository were you using?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, ( Your explanation ended mid sentence in case that was unintended ) Is the problem that you think you have lost important personal data or that some applications aren't working?
[22:14] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: if you run 'lsmod' it will give you a list of currently loaded modules
[22:14] <meoblast001> ed_: i have a few... how do i know which one thats in?
[22:14] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: you can find whatever you need in there
[22:14] <Spee_Der> Which directory/folder do i add to include other files on startup please.
[22:15] <ed_> meoblast001: you have a few what?
[22:15] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: i2c_dev and i2c_i801 are there
[22:15] <meoblast001> ed_: repos
[22:15] <ed_> meoblast001: oh
[22:15] <ed_> meoblast001: wait
[22:15] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: those are the ones you'll want to add, then
[22:15] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: but how?
[22:15] <xMS_user> nemilar: Jordan_U no that is it
[22:15] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: the applet still doesnt detect any sensors
[22:15] <Hammer89> I accidentally removed the little WiFi meter from the top panel... I looked in the "add to panel" menu for it... but it wasn't there (that I could see)... anyone know how to re-add it?
[22:16] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: I thought you said you were getting a readout?
[22:16] <link2126> you prolly go into user prefs
[22:16] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: what I meant was the sensors-detect thing said that there was an Intel Core family thermal thing, but it didnt tell me anything else
[22:16] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: did it give you the name of the modules you need, when it finished running?
[22:16] <b4l74z4r> i changed the ownership of a folder from root to my user and the folder behaves as if the change was succsessful, but when i right click the folder and view permissions, it's still owned by root, what's up with that?
[22:17] <meoblast001> ed_: well... im gonna go... thanx for the file
[22:17] <link2126> is the flux capacitor running or is it in anti-time-discombobulation mode?
[22:17] <ed_> meoblast001: you should file in a bug
[22:17] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: It didn't ask for them, it offered to add the entries to /etc/modules or whatever it was automatically
[22:17] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: but after that, it should have given you a list of modules it added
[22:17] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, Is the problem that you think you have lost important personal data or that some applications aren't working?
[22:17] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: I'll try it again :P
[22:18] <xMS_user> very very very very important personal data Jordan_U
[22:18] <link2126> turn the flux capacitor on!
[22:18] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: run 'sudo modprobe [modulename]' after that, and then run 'sensors' and it will hopefully give you some info
[22:18] <nemilar> xMS_user: where are your backups??
[22:18] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: Intel Core family thermal sensor...                         Success!    (driver `coretemp')
[22:18] <link2126> in the flux capacitor
[22:19] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: from the detect program
[22:19] <Hammer89> *posts once more* I accidentally removed the little WiFi meter from the top panel... I looked in the "add to panel" menu for it... but it wasn't there (that I could see)... anyone know how to re-add it? come on guys... this should be easy (and I shouldn't even need help on it :P )
[22:19] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: so try sudo modprobe coretemp
[22:19] <Dandre> hello,
[22:19] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: it executed and gave no output
[22:19] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: that's good
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: now run sudo update-modules
[22:20] <Moduliz0r> YAY
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: and then run sensors
[22:20] <Moduliz0r> Sensors applet is working :D
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: you got sensor output?
[22:20] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: thank you
[22:20] <link2126> then turn on the flux capacitor
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: :) np np
[22:20] <nemilar> Oh, yeah, and also enable the flux capacitor.  Very important.
[22:20] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: Looks like this is my problem, 52c and 52c :|
[22:20] <Dandre> I want to capture the image of a window that is larger than my screen resolution. Is there any possibility?
[22:20] <danbhfive> Hammer89: do you have a network moniter?
[22:20] <link2126> YAY
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: 52c isn't _too_ hot, but if it goes over 60, start to worry
[22:20] <link2126> that should make it work like a Mexican
[22:20] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: I've had it at 93c before :|
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: at least now you can see if the crashing is related to heat spikes
[22:20] <Hammer89> danbhfive: I had the little WiFi status thing up before...
[22:20] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: dear god...for what component?
[22:21] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: Intel Core 2 Duo (E6600)
[22:21] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, Does /home/angel exist currently?
[22:21] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: yo man, fix your thermal paste!!!
[22:21] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: That was when I had bad cooling
[22:21] <velko> Dandre, well hit alt+print and you'll find out
[22:21] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: anything over 65C is Bad News for processors
[22:21] <danbhfive> Hammer89: yes, you said you looked into the add panel thingy, do you see a network monitor?
[22:21] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: hehe, how do I print the degrees sign?
[22:21] <timandtom> Does anyone know what happened to pastebin.com? (I know its probably the wrong place to ask, but you guys pointed me there before, figured you might know)
[22:22] <NASAchusetts> Does anyone know how to dual boot Ubuntu with Vista on a separate harddrive?  After installing Ubuntu on the separate drive, when I boot up to it I get a message like I need to use a compatible Microsoft FDisk error 80.
[22:22] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: no clue
[22:22] <PriceChild> !paste | timandtom (use this instead)
[22:22] <danbhfive> !paste | timandtom
[22:22] <ubotu> timandtom (use this instead): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:22] <ubotu> timandtom: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:22] <linchapulin> Good afternoon, evening, night, or early morning as the case may be
[22:22] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: ok, thanks for your help :D
[22:22] <nemilar> Moduliz0r: no problem..good luck
[22:22] <Moduliz0r> nemilar: ;)
[22:22] <Hammer89> danbhfive: Ah ha... got it working... thanks :D
[22:22] <danbhfive> Hammer89: np
[22:22] <johnficca> Hi is there a native linux driver for my netgear wg511 v2 pcmcia wireless card ?
[22:22] <link2126> To dual boot Vista and Ubuntu on seperate hard drives, first install ubuntu on the main drive then turn on the flux capacitor
[22:22] <timandtom> xP Uh, thanks, i meant, anyone know why pastebin.com is down
[22:23] <Casey> Is there a way to disable your CD drive's eject button?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> johnficca, Do you know the exact chipset?
[22:23] <LjL> !away > Ttech|Away    (Ttech|Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:23] <syntaxerror55> NASAchusetts: http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[22:23] <linchapulin> johnficca:: First you need to find out what chipset your wireless card uses...then that can be answered
[22:23] <link2126> then turn on the flux capacitor
[22:23] <Ttech|Away> LjL,  sorry.. I know. Something got messed up and I was checking somethign.  I don't usually do that
[22:23] <Ttech|Away> ><
[22:23] <deadlymachine> >.<
[22:23] <NASAchusetts> thanks I'll check it out
[22:23] <Repentinus> What should I use as root password?
[22:24] <deadlymachine> your moom
[22:24] <link2126>  your mom
[22:24] <johnficca> linchapulin: let me see if I can find out.
[22:24] <link2126> your mom
[22:24] <deadlymachine> you mom
[22:24] <chaosrl> how would I go about making abiword my default word processor over openoffice's word processor?
[22:24] <link2126> your mom
[22:24] <Talon> Unbuntu just got finished, can anyone give me a link to help me setup my Wireless card so i can update theese security updates it warned me about.
[22:24] <deadlymachine> you mom your mom
[22:24] <syntaxerror55> !ops | link2126
[22:24] <ubotu> link2126: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[22:24] <Talon> Ubuntu*
[22:24] <deadlymachine> you momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou momyou mom
[22:24] <link2126> yo momma yo moa yo mamma
[22:24] <Jordan_U> !ops
[22:24] <link2126> woah
[22:24] <syntaxerror55> !ops link2126 deadlymachine
[22:24] <E_Data> pwned :P
[22:24] <nemilar> ops to the rescue!
[22:24] <nemilar> man I love when that happens
[22:25] <bkb> Talon-> you have internet access now? no need to use wireless if your already have access
[22:25] <Repentinus> What is default root password or smth?
[22:25] <Seveas> !root | regulate
[22:25] <ubotu> regulate: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:25] <jpatrick> !root > Repentinus
[22:25] <nemilar> Repentinus: there is no default root password
[22:25] <Seveas> gah. :)
[22:25] <syntaxerror55> Seveas: Thanks. :D
[22:25] <Seveas> thanks jpatrick ;)
[22:25] <johnficca> linchapulin: the chipset is isl3880
[22:25] <thelostbutler> hello folks, i have a line in /etc/security/limits.conf that says *               hard    nofile        32767, however when i run a job via cron the number of open files shows up as only 1024. can some one point out
[22:25] <Moduliz0r> Repentinus: sudo passwd root (and put a password in)
[22:25] <nemilar> Repentinus: if you really want to set one, you can 'sudo passwd root'
[22:25] <DrivenMad> regulate, that was awsome!! starit form the Matrix :)
[22:25] <Carbonflux> can anyone think of a reason my clock might be running slow ? I am running Ubuntu 7.10 on a P4.
[22:26] <DrivenMad> slow? system battery
[22:26] <Shuggl1> My friend installed ubuntu using the guided partition and now his first harddrive is reportin no os. what should he do?
[22:26] <DrivenMad> maybe
[22:26] <Carbonflux> DrivenMad, ya that will be the first thing I try, once a find a new battery heh
[22:26] <bkb> Shuggl1-> re-install
[22:27] <Talon> How do i setup my wireless connection on this fresh install ?
[22:27] <DrivenMad> Shuggl1, verify that the os was installed on the first drive.. i.e. hda0 or sda0
[22:27] <Shuggl1> he needs to salvage his data off of a windows partition, if possible
[22:27] <bkb> Talon-> you have internet access now? no need to use wireless if your already have access
[22:27] <Carbonflux> DrivenMad, thought I would ask here and see if there was any issue, it was not doing it when this box was running windows, but that could just be timming etc
[22:27] <Talon> My desktop uses a cable, i use Wireless with my Laptop
[22:27] <bkb> Talon-> move over the cable temporarily then you can do updates
[22:28] <DrivenMad> CarboxFlux, Interesting.... I ahvent heard of it only doing it in linux :)
[22:28] <danbhfive> !wireless > Talon
[22:28] <Talon> Thankyou
[22:28] <varsendaggr> is there a way to easily switch between using xserver-xgl  and xserver-xorg???
[22:29] <Shuggl1> how can i get a list of partitions?
[22:29] <Carbonflux> DrivenMad, ya, I bet its just a weird coincidence that it happened around the time I switched this machine to linux heh
[22:29] <bkb> Shuggl1-> fdisk -l
[22:29] <PriceChild> Shuggl1, sudo fdisk -ll
[22:29] <Flare183> Shuggl1: df i think
[22:29] <PriceChild> gah
[22:29] <PriceChild> Shuggl1, only one l there
[22:29] <nemilar> Shuggl1: fdisk -l
[22:29] <nemilar> you might need to do fdisk [device] -l
[22:30] <johnficca> does Ubuntu have the prism54 driver in the repos??
[22:30] <bkb> Shuggl1-> but you have to mount it to recover any data
[22:30] <Flare183> johnficca: yeap
[22:30] <johnficca> cool
[22:30] <Repentinus> How I can delete root passwd?
[22:30] <bkb> Shuggl1-> well maybe not, if you use disk dump to another drive partition
[22:30] <Flare183> Repentinus: you can't
[22:30] <varsendaggr> or rather at what point in the boot up process does startx decide to to run xgl?
[22:30] <syntaxerror55> Repentinus: you do not want to do that
[22:30] <syntaxerror55> Repentinus: if it was possible, of course.
[22:30] <nemilar> syntaxerror55: root doesn't need a password, that's what sudo is for
[22:31] <bkb> Repentinus-> change password while your eyes are closed, you cant remember what you typed
[22:31] <nemilar> bkb: but then he has to type it twice ;)
[22:31] <syntaxerror55> bkb: xD
[22:31] <nemilar> Repentinus: the only way I know to do it is to edit the shadow file manually
[22:31] <syntaxerror55> nemilar: aww. You ruined it. :|
[22:31] <nemilar> actually wait
[22:31] <nemilar> Repentinus: passwd --lock
[22:32] <incorrect> i was trying to stop users who belong to a certain group from being able to login
[22:32] <Pici> Repentinus: sudo passwd -l
[22:32] <incorrect> so i added "login;*;*;Al0000-2400;users,cdrom,floppy,plugdev,audio,dip,sysadmin" to /etc/security/groups
[22:33] <incorrect> group.conf even
[22:33] <NASAchusetts> I guess my real question is this; Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different harddrives? In my case my fist HD is already partitioned with Vistax64/XP, I found this spare 15GB HD in my house and wanted to use that just for Ubuntu. So can it be done or does all the OS's have to be on one HD?
[22:33] <PriceChild> NASAchusetts, it works fine
[22:33] <nemilar> NASAchusetts: it's possible
[22:33] <Slart> NASAchusetts: it can be done
[22:33] <Slart> wow.. we agreed.. sweet =)
[22:33] <lennart_> can some one help me with a small but annoying problem with flashplayer?
[22:33] <nemilar> NASAchusetts: just make sure your bootloader is on the hard-drive which is being booted off-of
[22:33] <nemilar> Consensus!
[22:34] <Jordan_U> !anyone | lennart_
[22:34] <ubotu> lennart_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:34] <PriceChild> NASAchusetts, windows complains about not being on the first disk... but can be fixed if you map the drives in the grub config.
[22:34] <nemilar> lennart_: we'll try, but know that flash is very much broken
[22:34] <Slart> NASAchusetts: or you could use some kind of bios boot selector and have each hard drive with it's own boot sector
[22:34] <nemilar> the ubuntuforums.org pages are littered with posts about people having flash problems...thankfully I haven't been affected
[22:35] <nemilar> what's a reboot?
[22:35] <mcisbackuk> nemilar: Please read "Pc's for Dummies"
[22:35] <Flare183> nemilar: restarting the computer
[22:35] <Flare183> duh
[22:35] <nemilar> haha i love that people answered that question
[22:35] <nemilar> Has anyone ever attempted to use kexec?
[22:35] <incorrect> how can i change the default from being nano to vi?
[22:36] <Nihilist_Nerd> Do I have much chance of customising a LiveCD inside a LiveCD with 2gb RAM?
[22:36] <bkb> incorrect-> set -o vi
[22:36] <white_eagle> can't I install windows when using ubuntu?
[22:36] <Seveas> Nihilist_Nerd, no
[22:36] <Nihilist_Nerd> dual-booting?
[22:36] <velko> incorrect, it's the EDITOR environment variable
[22:36] <incorrect> bkb, there is another way i am sure
[22:36] <incorrect> i did it once before
[22:36] <Flare183> white_eagle: using virtualbox
[22:36] <bkb> incorrect-> possibly, you dont like what i gave you?
[22:36] <Nihilist_Nerd> Seveas: I also have 4gb swap
[22:36] <lennart_> ok, the problem is when im trying to go to fullscreen, the clip goes pops up in a new window, but i want it to be fullscreen in the existing window
[22:36] <Seveas> Nihilist_Nerd, that helps :)
[22:36] <velko> bkb, sorry - it was for incorrect
[22:37] <NASAchusetts> I used EasyBCD on Vista to add Linux and it Linux shows up with the other OS's during boot up, but when I go to Linux, it gives me that weird compatible Fdisk message.  So what did I miss?  Is there a webpage that could show me what to do?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Nihilist_Nerd, Yes, it's possible. Why though? :)
[22:37] <incorrect> found it! update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim
[22:37] <Nihilist_Nerd> 'Cause I've partitioned my HDD to death and I want to run an OS from RAM
[22:37] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: that would require loading the OS into ram every time you boot
[22:37] <Nihilist_Nerd> I'm customising a LiveCD so that I can run from RAM
[22:37] <Nihilist_Nerd> Yeah
[22:38] <Nihilist_Nerd> This is true
[22:38] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: which...would be slow
[22:38] <Nihilist_Nerd> Though obviously it will be fast once booted :D
[22:38] <xMS_user> sorry guys. back
[22:38] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: it would also mean that you can't install any new programs...you can, but it will all be lost if you need to reboot
[22:38] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> umm you dont realize once you boot from liveCD you are running on RAM ?
[22:38] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: that's what SSD's are for
[22:38] <Nihilist_Nerd> Seriously, I discovered this first in fedora and was amazed at how awesome it has been
[22:38] <Nihilist_Nerd> bkb: yeah, but I think what i want to do is different... bottoRAM - requires 1gb or more
[22:38] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: you can create a ramdisk if you really want to
[22:39] <Slart> NASAchusetts: Easybcd?.. I think you'll find we're good at ubuntu.. ask the easybcd people about their thing
[22:39] <Nihilist_Nerd> I assume that this loads pretty much everything into ram
[22:39] <xMS_user> sry guys i lot my connection
[22:39] <xMS_user> Jordan_U: still there?
[22:39] <Jordan_U> xMS_user, Yes
[22:39] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: this is what SSDs are made for...you can get one large enough to hold your OS for not too much $$$
[22:39] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> no it does not load everything to ram, you must still manually add it in
[22:39] <Pulpie> is there a cli email client?
[22:39] <nemilar> Pulpie: there are like a billion
[22:39] <Nihilist_Nerd> If I leave my computer on while running from RAM, how environmentally unfriendly will I be? Hmm... how about if I hibernate?
[22:39] <nemilar> Pulpie: pine and mutt are two common ones
[22:40] <Pulpie> nemilar: do u have a fav?
[22:40] <Nihilist_Nerd> nemilar: SSDs?
[22:40] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> you snooze you lose..hehe
[22:40] <nemilar> Pulpie: pine is my favorite
[22:40] <Shuggl1> the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54143/
[22:40] <velko> Pulpie, mutt is mine :-)
[22:40] <Pulpie> nemilar: ty
[22:40] <Nihilist_Nerd> nemilar: you snooze you lose?
[22:40] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: Solid State Drives.
[22:40] <Shuggl1> is there any chance to resstore his windows partition?
[22:40] <Nihilist_Nerd> Ah
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Nihilist_Nerd, Are you using a heater at the moment?
[22:40] <Pulpie> velko: thats nice... do u have a favorite color too?
[22:40] <Pulpie> :D
[22:40] <Nihilist_Nerd> Like Flash media? What are the advantages of these?
[22:40] <Repentinus> Grr, I can't understand how to install java.
[22:40] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: they're basically flash memory that acts as a hard drive...the Next Big Thing
[22:40] <velko> Pulpie, :-P
[22:40] <deme> I just installed ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 1520 and I have two issues: 1. the sound isn't being detected and 2. flash based items don't work in firefox even though I installed adobe flash.
[22:40] <Nihilist_Nerd> Nah, I don;'t really use radiaters
[22:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> 8radiators
[22:41]  * Slart is getting a ssd-drive for his laptop... yummy
[22:41] <johnficca> is there a native linux driver for the netgear wg511 marvell chipset?
[22:41] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: it's not quite as fast as RAM, but you don't loose all the data when your computer shuts down, or hibernates
[22:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> What's the advantage of this over HDD?
[22:41] <danbhfive> Repentinus: can you just sudo apt-get install sun-java-whatever?
[22:41] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: it's flash-based, so it's much faster
[22:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> And also, don't they die after 100 000 writes?
[22:41] <bkb> Shuggl1-> okay, they are there, now you have to mount them in mount points like / or /home
[22:41] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: no moving parts.. faster..
[22:41] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: they last longer than conventional HDDs
[22:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> Thanks
[22:41] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: and hard drives last forever? =)
[22:41] <Nihilist_Nerd> Wow
[22:42] <Nihilist_Nerd> Not mine!
[22:42] <nemilar> Slart: Seagates do!!
[22:42] <Nihilist_Nerd> :D
[22:42] <Shuggl1> he used the guided setup and it seems to have deleted his original partition table then didnt successfully install
[22:42] <Slart> nemilar: hehe.. I've got some paperweights here that says otherwise =)
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Nihilist_Nerd, And they cost upwards of $1,000 :)
[22:42] <nemilar> Slart: actually, I still have an original IBM 1.5GB hard drive, from an old IBM Aptiva P1 133MHz, still doin' it's thing
[22:42] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> think about how those network appliances are, they have not hard disk normally, only cf disk to boot and run the os
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Nihilist_Nerd, If you want one that is more than a few GIG that is
[22:42] <Nihilist_Nerd> it's just that I asked my friend what running an OS from RAM Flash Drive would be like and he said awful, cause it would soon die
[22:42] <nemilar> Jordan_U: you can get a small one for a few hundred bucks now
[22:42] <Slart> nemilar: bah... it's just faking it.. but this is offtopic.
[22:43] <nemilar> Slart: hahaha
[22:43] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: SSD != RAM drive
[22:43] <Nihilist_Nerd> I know
[22:43] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: yes.. it's just that a hard drive dies before the ssd drive
[22:43] <nemilar> they've worked out the writes issue that life shouldn't be a problem
[22:43] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> read/write cycle of 100k plus is about 10 years on typical user, if you dont do any logging
[22:43] <Grimer> anyone here had problems booting ubuntu 7.10? mine crashes when tries to start the cups daemon
[22:43] <deme> Could I possibly pm anyone regarding intitial install issues?
[22:43] <Shuggl1> bkb: what would his windows partition be? there is no sda3 or sda4
[22:43] <Nihilist_Nerd> Wow, doesn't the OS often write to /tmp?
[22:43] <nemilar> deme: ask the question here, if someone knows the answer they'll help you
[22:44] <Shuggl1> extended?
[22:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> And what about /proc?
[22:44] <xMS_user> what is /tmp?
[22:44] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: /tmp is usually in RAM
[22:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> Oooh
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Nihilist_Nerd, If you put DSL on a flash drive and boot it with the "toram" kernel parameter you are really running from RAM and there are no writes to the drive so less ( no? ) wear :)
[22:44] <Nihilist_Nerd> So part of the / filesystem is in the RAM!
[22:44] <Slart> Nihilist_Nerd: /proc isn't a "on disc" file.. it's just a .. what to call it.. in memory file
[22:44] <Talon> WoW! i really like this Ubuntu so far :D im glad i installed it.
[22:44] <deme> Does anyone know how to get linux to detect the audio on a Dell Inspiron 1520?
[22:44] <nemilar> xMS_user: /tmp is where apps keep temporary data that is cleaned when they close
[22:45] <nemilar> Talon: glad to hear it
[22:45] <bkb> Shuggl1-> what are those partitions? they were just built and nothing installed?
[22:45] <chaosrl> does anyone know how to make abiword the default word processor for gutsy?
[22:45] <nemilar> Talon: you will _inevidably_ run into some problems, though ;)
[22:45] <Stepa2> I just tried burning MINIPE to a cd and got an error (and wasted a cd)
[22:45] <Stepa2> Can anyone help
[22:45] <nemilar> Stepa2: be more specific about the error...use pastebin if necessary
[22:46] <Nihilist_Nerd> Wow this is really surpising to me. And about DSL: how hard is it to use? is it uitable for someone like me (quite newbish, but not totally a beginner)
[22:46] <Slart> chaosrl: default word processor? why..
[22:46] <bkb> Stepa2-> as a comparison, i have coasters (dvd), would you like to trade?
[22:46] <Nihilist_Nerd> Sorry if I'm being too offtopic
[22:46] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: are you speaking of D-mn Small Linux?
[22:46] <Stepa2> nemilar: It said :error writing to cd, try using lower speed
[22:46] <Nihilist_Nerd> yes indeed
[22:46] <nemilar> Stepa2: did you try using a lower speed?
[22:46] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> those are for you, you will do well with DSL
[22:46] <Stepa2> bkb: sure :-)
[22:46] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: DSL isn't really for a desktop...it's very, very minimal
[22:47] <chaosrl> Slart: i've had better luck with abiword+charts and graphics converting into .docs for use on windows machine, and right now the openoffice word processor is the default for handling .docs, which is a minor annoyance, but not that big of a deal
[22:47] <Spee_Der> Which directory/folder do I add to, to include more  files on startup please.
[22:47] <Nihilist_Nerd> bkb: Hmm, I heard from my school technician that you have to manually mount stuff
[22:47] <chaosrl> i was just wondering if i could get abiword to open .docs by default
[22:47] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: it's used mostly as a rescue distro, with certain uses in small devices that don't need many programs
[22:47] <bkb> Spee_Der-> what do you want done?
[22:47] <Slart> chaosrl: ahh.. default for opening doc-files.. now I understand
[22:47] <Stepa2> nemilar: No, i do not want to risk another blank cd.  Just want to check if this could be a problem.  When i downloaded minipe, i downloaded in nrg format and used nrg2iso to convert. Is that fine?
[22:47] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> or can be done automatically if they are available at boot
[22:47] <Nihilist_Nerd> Ah okay, so is DSL more appropriate for... wshing machines?
[22:47] <chaosrl> Slart: sorry if i wasn't being clear; is it possible?
[22:47] <Spee_Der> Thanks bkb. I need to add a new file on startup for the network.
[22:47] <bkb> Nihilist_Nerd-> you need to modify /etc/fstab
[22:48] <Slart> chaosrl: find a doc-file and.. right click on it.. properties
[22:48] <nemilar> Stepa2: should be fine.  If it says try a slower speed, you should try a slower speed ;) CD-Rs are like $0.25/each, anyhow
[22:48] <danbhfive> chaosrl: i think you can right click it, and there is an option somewhere in there
[22:48] <bkb> Spee_Der-> what would this new file do for you?
[22:48] <Stepa2> nemilar: okay, ill try
[22:48] <Nihilist_Nerd> Meh, doesn't sound like my sort of thing. I like the prospect of something that works well out of the box.
[22:48] <Slart> chaosrl: there you have a "open with" tab that will let you select what program to use to open it
[22:48] <chaosrl> Slart: haha, maybe i should have looked a bit harder... thanks!
[22:48] <Spee_Der> bkb, this is in order for my IPv6 application to function properly.
[22:48] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: DSL isn't for desktop use
[22:48] <Nihilist_Nerd> yeah okay.
[22:48] <adub> does anyone in here run vnc
[22:48] <nemilar> Spee_Der: where are you that you have IPv6 support from your ISP??
[22:48] <Slart> adub: sometimes, yes
[22:49] <bkb> Spee_Der-> text files are read, not executed, so maybe I am not following you?
[22:49]  * Spee_Der is located in Rhode Island, USA.
[22:49] <bioshock> hi
[22:49] <nemilar> Spee_Der: omg you really do have ipv6
[22:49] <Nihilist_Nerd> Hello.
[22:49] <Shuggl1> is there a way to install grub?
[22:49] <adub> slart i setup a server and i am having trouble connecting to it
[22:49] <bioshock> how can create ntfs partition using gparted? i want to install vista on the empty partition left, but seems impossible.
[22:49] <bkb> nemilar-> they are okay for low budget == dsl  am low budget too
[22:49] <adub> am i suppose to add computers that are allowed to connect or should i just be able to connect as long as the server is listening on say port 5800
[22:49] <Slart> adub: ok.. I assume you can ping the server and such.. so all cables are connected
[22:49] <Shuggl1> it seems like he has no installed grub, or the install broke before doing that
[22:49] <Chase-san> heya
[22:49] <Spee_Der> bkb, Okay. I need to include on start-up for my IPv6 to function properly. I just forget where to add in the Ubuntu ONSTART = <program_name>
[22:50] <Nihilist_Nerd> Right click on unused space, select new partition and choose 'ntfs' from a drop-down box in a dialogue that will appear
[22:50] <Nihilist_Nerd> that's at bioshock
[22:50] <adub> slart yes i can ping the ip
[22:50] <Spee_Der> nemilar, Yes. And it works very well.
[22:50] <bkb> Spee_Der-> ahh.. /etc/network/interfaces
[22:50] <Chase-san> anyone can tell me how to get the wireless to work on k/ubuntu?
[22:50] <Slart> adub: I think you can configure the vnc server to do either.. hang on.. let me check
[22:50] <Spee_Der> No tunnel provider.
[22:50] <Stepa2> nemilar: error again
[22:50] <chaosrl> Shuggl1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[22:50] <nemilar> Stepa2: can you mount the iso?
[22:50] <chaosrl> try that
[22:50] <riba1> hi
[22:50] <Stepa2> nemilar: explain
[22:50] <bioshock> Nihilist_Nerd, the list contains many types, (ext3,fat16,fat32) ntfs also, but i _CAN'T_ click on ntfs.
[22:51] <Spee_Der> bkb, Thanks much, I will have a look there after dinner......   merci beaucoup.....
[22:51] <adub> slart thanks im running a port scan on the server to just make sure that vnc is running and listening i know i left it on when i left the location tho
[22:51] <Stepa2> nemilar: please :-D
[22:51] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, It should be listed in your network-manager, are you using Gnome (normal Ubuntu), Kubuntu, or Xubuntu?
[22:51] <nemilar> Stepa2: try mounting it to a directory (mount -o loop -t iso.iso [directory])
[22:51] <nemilar> err
[22:51] <nemilar> that command is wrong
[22:51] <nemilar> mount -o loop iso.iso directory/
[22:51] <Slart> adub: oh.. you're not anywhere near the server you installed vnc on?
[22:51] <Nihilist_Nerd> bioshock: what a mystery... is it greyed out?
[22:51] <bioshock> yes
[22:51] <bkb> Spee_Der-> bou coup de mundial..hehehe
[22:51] <Spee_Der> nemilar, Yes. It works nicely, but when i re-start the system, I need first to call a program to provide that serivice......
[22:51] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I am using kubuntu 7.10
[22:52] <Nihilist_Nerd> Hold on bioshock, let's make a new channel to avoid crowding this one: #bioshockandnn
[22:52] <adub> slart i set this up on my parents computer so no
[22:52] <riba1> what is the linux graphic package that lets me do a little more than impress?
[22:52] <nemilar> Spee_Der: just running a command?  you can put that in your rc.local file, and it will run each time automatically at boot
[22:52] <bioshock> ok
[22:52] <riba1> only blender?
[22:52] <adub> they are basically computer illiterate and i am moving away from home so i need to do something like this so i can help them
[22:52] <chaosrl> !blender
[22:52] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[22:52] <bkb> riba1-> you can impress people with blender and inkscape
[22:52] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: It shows eth0, but it doesn't show a wireless device, however, I have both a line based and a built in wireless
[22:52] <Stepa2> nemilar: does it matter where i mount it?
[22:52] <bobbob1016> nemilar, You need sudo/gksu, I just did that coincidently.
[22:52] <Slart> adub: which vnc-server did you use?
[22:52] <Spee_Der> nemilar, Many thanks. That is what I am looking for..... will try that after dinner.......  Ciao for now.
[22:52] <Grimer> anyone here had problems booting ubuntu 7.10? mine crashes when tries to start the cups daemon
[22:52] <adub> slart tight vnc
[22:52] <nemilar> Stepa2: no, just create the directory first
[22:53] <nemilar> bobbob1016: of course, it's a system file...wouldn't want any old user to be able to put a start-up command in
[22:53] <RasterBurner> hey guys
[22:53] <riba1> ok...tx..
[22:53] <adub> at their place i set it up to where it can log in view loopback adapter i did this just to test
[22:53] <Flare183> !hi | RasterBurner
[22:53] <ubotu> RasterBurner: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:53] <adub> i used the web interface adn was able to connect no problems with their ip http://thereip:5800 through the web browser
[22:53] <riba1> last time (about a year ago)  there was some scripting to be installed in blender so I didn't have the time
[22:53] <bkb> Grimer-> you can remove cupsd from the rc scripts.. maybe you can man update-rc.d
[22:53] <nemilar> Grimer: what crashes?  cups or everything?
[22:53] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Do you know what your wifi card is by any chance?  It would show up if it was recognized, so it probably isn't recognized.  I'm not too familiar with KDE though
[22:53] <riba1> somehting about python
[22:53] <Slart> adub: you know plain vnc isn't considered safe to leave open to the world.. it's just a password between the bad people and your server
[22:54] <adub> i am attempting this now and the connection will just time out the server is up and i ran port scans but i am having no luck connecting
[22:54] <Grimer> well... it crashes... simply... the boot process hangs
[22:54] <adub> slart i realize this
[22:54] <bkb> riba1-> only if you dont have python, but python is normally installed stock
[22:54] <bobbob1016> nemilar, I'm just making sure
[22:54] <adub> i do not plan on leaving it open infinitely
[22:54] <Nihilist_Nerd> Shall I publish and GPL a gutsy boottoRAM liveCD after I've built it?
[22:54] <adub> they call with a computer problem
[22:54] <nemilar> Grimer: do you have a printer connected?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> bkb, Python has always come by default with Ubuntu
[22:54] <adub> i have them turn it on then immediately turn it off when done
[22:54] <Nihilist_Nerd> I mean, would that be a good thing to do?
[22:54] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: its a toshiba satalite (I know that tells you nothing), but the wireless is of realtek make
[22:54] <Grimer> nops
[22:54] <bkb> Grimer-> boot into safe mode, and modify the /etc/init.d/   where it points to your cupsd
[22:54] <Grimer> no
[22:55] <nemilar> Nihilist_Nerd: if you create it, it's automatically GPL'd
[22:55] <Stepa2> nemilar: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[22:55] <bkb> Jordan_U-> i thought so to, I was just pointing it out to another user
[22:55] <Slart> adub: your parents run ubuntu? or is vnc installed on a windows-machine?
[22:55] <Grimer> well... i gonna try this bkb
[22:55] <Nihilist_Nerd> nemilar: okay, i'm not that familiarwith theasoftware licenses, but i'll take your word for it
[22:55] <Nihilist_Nerd> so will it be helpful for me to dot hat?
[22:55] <adub> windows machien i scanned and all the ports are showing filtered???
[22:55] <adub> so the port isnt showing open
[22:55] <adub> i do not have a firewall ssetup this box is windows 2000
[22:56] <nemilar> Stepa2: you did something along the lines of 'mount -o loop isofile.iso directory/' ?
[22:56] <bkb> riba1-> oh yeah i can sort of recall, for latest maybe you need python 1.5 so you may need to upgrade
[22:56] <dhruva023> hi
[22:56] <adub> thanks slart for helping me tackle this
[22:56] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Toshiba Satellite what model?  That would tell me something, Toshiba Satellite tells me nothing specific, and realtek tells me a bit more, but I need the specific model number.  Try google-ing "kubuntu (model number)", or "ubuntu (model number)" directions should be almost the same.
[22:56] <adub> i wonder what is filtering the ports they do not have a home router
[22:56] <dhruva023> first time i am running irc from command line
[22:56] <Stepa2> nemilar: sudo mount -o loop minixpe.iso home/ubunut/Desktop/test
[22:57] <chri4> adub: personal firewall, maybe?
[22:57] <nemilar> Stepa2: sounds like the ISO is bad
[22:57] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: hold on let me get you the info...
[22:57] <dhruva023> list
[22:57] <bkb> Stepa2-> you need to add -t iso9660  as an option to mount
[22:57] <nemilar> Stepa2: yeah, give that a try
[22:57] <adub> nope i know for a fact they do not have that
[22:57] <adub> i installed all software on that computer service is bellsouth
[22:58] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: TOSHIBA Satellite A215-S5802 NoteBook AMD Mobile Athlon 64 X2 TK-57(1.90GHz) 15.4" Wide XGA 1GB DDR2 667 120GB 5400rpm DVD Super Multi ATI Radeon X1200 IGP, Wireless: 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[22:58] <adub> how would i stop the filtered port on a windows 2000 machine the isp is bellsouth
[22:58] <Slart> adub: hmm.. I don't see any settings that limit who can connect to it.. are you sure the vnc-server is running?
[22:58] <bkb> Stepa2-> you need to specify the file system type you are mounting unless it is ext2/ext3
[22:58] <Stepa2> bkb: that worked
[22:58] <bkb> or reiserfs
[22:58] <tigran> Hey
[22:58] <adub> yes
[22:58] <nemilar> bkb: normally it will recognize most filesystems, as long as they are labeled properly and in good form
[22:59] <Repentinus> What is typical folder for Mozilla Firefox?
[22:59] <adub> i port scanned it
[22:59] <nemilar> Repentinus: folder for what?
[22:59] <nemilar> Repentinus: personal files are kept in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[22:59] <Stepa2> bkb:  where / how do i specify that?
[22:59] <tigran> I just installed flash player from within firefox plugin installer, but it won't work.
[22:59] <bkb> nemilar-> it would not recognize ramfs or squashfs or tmpfs  per my experience
[22:59] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, That isn't the wireless' model number.  Try google-ing "Satellite A215-S5802 specs" or tech specs, it should list the chipset of the wifi.
[22:59] <nemilar> bkb: true, those are specialty FS's ... it'll typically recognize an iso9660 fine, though
[22:59] <bkb> Stepa2-> options are the ones that start with -   so in the middle
[23:00] <bkb> tigran->  which ubuntu version?
[23:00] <tigran> bkb: Gutsy
[23:01] <bkb> tigran-> you downloaded the tar.gz file?
[23:01] <tigran> bkb: No, from firefox, installing missing plugins
[23:01] <RasterBurner> hey what are the advanteges of Ubuntu over Fedora?
[23:01] <Ryuho> I need onscreen keyboard using xfce start up under Ubuntu 7.10 but when I edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default i either freeze or the xfce login screen seems to be on top of the onboard screen and i can't use it
[23:01] <Stepa2> bkb: im using a live cd, what file system is that?
[23:01] <nemilar> RasterBurner: they're different distrobutions is all
[23:01] <bkb> tigran->  okay , if you like to try, to what i did, download the tar.gz from adobe site
[23:01] <adub> slart do you know what it could be obviously i dont think i could connect if the state of the port is filtered
[23:02] <nemilar> RasterBurner: notable difference is that Ubuntu is debian based, and therefore uses APT, while fedora is redhat based and therefore uses RPM
[23:02] <bkb> Stepa2-> you have to tell us the whole scenario, we will give you wrong advise if you we assume different
[23:02] <Chase-san> bobo1016: hah yah sorry, it doesn't seem to get much more specific then, Realtek 54g wireless LAN
[23:02] <RasterBurner> so ubuntu is a form of debian"
[23:02] <tigran> bkb: Then run the installer?
[23:02] <bkb> tigran nope, untar it and put the .so into ...
[23:02] <nemilar> RasterBurner: Ubuntu is based off of Debian
[23:02] <DigitalNinja> Is sftp speed done in bytes or bits?
[23:02] <Slart> adub: it's hard to tell what might be wrong.. I'd start by using the tight-vnc client from a windows machine.. see if that works.. if that works I'd go on to a linux client
[23:03] <nemilar> RasterBurner: there's loads of distrobutions out there, most of them are based off of a "parent" distrobution...the two most popular parents being Redhat and Debian....there's a timeline somewhere on the web if you're really interested
[23:03] <Slart> adub: but there could be lots of things going on with that windows-machine that I have no idea about
[23:03] <bkb> tigran-> put into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins,   you also have to create  a ~/.mozilla/plugins/   and put a copy there too;  kill firefox and restart it
[23:03] <Stepa2> brb: not sure on how far back you want me to go, but my windows system is damaged.  I want to use mini.. to recover my files.  I downloaded as rar parts, then it extracted as nrg, i converted to iso
[23:04] <adub> slart you have a good point....im thinking i will have to figure out why the port is showing filtered could be some extra crap bellsouth puts on those modems who knows
[23:04] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, I noticed that too.  Try "Realtek 54g wireless lan ubuntu", that's all I'd do it if were my card.
[23:04] <RasterBurner> nemilar: ok cool, so ubuntu - debian. fedora - redhat! makes sense.
[23:04] <Slart> adub: if the port is filtered.. just change it on the server.. there should be some kind of config-program for it
[23:04] <adub> slart true im baffled there is no 3rd party software on the machine that give firewall capability
[23:05] <Slart> adub: doesn't windows 2000 sp4 come with a simple firewall?
[23:05] <nemilar> Slart: it does
[23:05] <adub> you know i think your right it does
[23:05] <adub> i wonder where i would go in to disable that
[23:05] <nemilar> Slart / adub :  they added it in sp4
[23:05] <Shinobi> i need help with alsa, uninstallation an reinstallation
[23:05] <Slart> adub: well.. in that abomination they call "control panel" I guess ;)
[23:06] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Try System-> Preferences-> Hardware Information
[23:06] <tigran> bkb: Thanks
[23:06] <tigran> bkb: That worked
[23:06] <adub> slart ya its something in there i bet
[23:06] <seanh> Hi all. The problem I have is  that Ubuntu will play some DVDs but not others. Actually I've found the same problem on 3 Ubuntu laptops, but not on Windows. I have done everything in the RestrictedFormats wiki page. What could be the difference between the discs?
[23:07] <bkb> tigran it worked for me
[23:07] <Slart> seanh: the only difference I know of is encrypted and unencrypted
[23:07] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, You should be able to find your wireless there, even if Ubuntu won't see it.  Are you dual-booting by any chance?  If so, you should be able to find it in Vista's device manager.
[23:07] <Chase-san> eh?
[23:07] <Slart> seanh: but I'm no dvd-guru... it's quite possible I'm wrong
[23:07] <seanh> Slart -- hmm... they are all movie DVDs from a rental shop. Wouldn't they all be encrypted? Is there some way to tell by looking at the discs?
[23:07] <Chase-san> bobob1016: i'll try to translate that directory to kde
[23:08] <bobbob1016> seanh, Try playing them with VLC, to the best of my knowledge, it doesn't care if the DVD is encrypted.
[23:08] <Slart> seanh: I have no idea
[23:08] <orochi_> make sure libdvdcss2 is installed
[23:08] <kilrae> is there any way to convince flash to not render on top of everything else (javascript menus, for example)
[23:08] <seanh> bobbob1016 -- actually I have tried all players. If a disc doesn't play, it doesn't play in *anything*
[23:08] <orochi_> libdvdcss2 is required for encrypted dvd playback
[23:08] <seanh> orochi_ actually the error I get is that libdvdcss2 is not installed, but it definitely is
[23:08] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Oh, forgot you were on KDE for a second.  If memory serves, try the Control Center.
[23:09] <Shinobi> i need help with alsa, uninstallation an reinstallation...i installed alsa 1.0.15 without uninstalling 1.0.14 and then installed1.0.16rcs.. then from synaptics reinstalled alsa 1.0.14 but now nothing works
[23:09] <bobbob1016> seanh, Try using Quickstart to install the DVD codecs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613462&highlight=quickstart
[23:10] <Stepa2> bkb: did you get that?
[23:10] <unicum> where do i find the sound settings in ubunt.. like warning sounds and stuff?
[23:10] <bkb> Stepa2-> nope, i stepeed out for a few
[23:10] <bobbob1016> seanh, That does a lot of things automatically, including install the DVD codecs.
[23:10] <Stepa2> brb: not sure on how far back you want me to go, but my windows system is damaged.  I want to use mini.. to recover my files.  I downloaded as rar parts, then it extracted as nrg, i converted to iso
[23:10] <PriceChild> unicum, system > preferences > sound
[23:10] <wei> jkl;j
[23:11] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[23:11] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[23:11] <unicum> PriceChild that was too easy... head - hand - impact
[23:11] <bkb> Stepa2-> wait a minute, you are attempting to recover a windows xp data? where is the drive? what have you done?
[23:11] <seanh> bobbob1016 - taking a look, thanks
[23:11] <Jordan_U> unicum, I prefer facepalm myself
[23:12] <unicum> hrhr
[23:12] <Stepa2> bkb: From what i understand, i have a virus.  Cannot boot into it. Cannot mount it
[23:12] <unicum> anyone here using fireftp?
[23:12] <bkb> Stepa2-> okay, where is this xp (ntfs) drive now?
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Stepa2, Might try testdisk
[23:13] <gregorovius> !nvidia
[23:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:13] <gregorovius> !xorg
[23:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:13] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, You find the model number?
[23:13] <StrangeCharm_> mumblegrumble hibernation mumble
[23:13] <syntaxerror55> !msgthebot | gregorovius
[23:13] <ubotu> gregorovius: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:13] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: hrm.... nope
[23:13] <bkb> Stepa2-> and I assume you booted on same machine where this xp drive is?
[23:13] <gregorovius> sorry, syntaxerror55
[23:13] <Chase-san> bobbob1026: just doesn't seem to list anything I can find
[23:13] <bkb> Stepa2-> booted liveCD i meant?
[23:13] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Try booting Vista if you are dual-booting, and getting it from the device manager there.
[23:13] <Stepa2> bkb: its on the same comp as i am now
[23:14] <KingPython> my shell screen resolation isnt fine and so i added vga options to /boot/grub/menu.lst but it gave me an error for resolation when booting and shell isnt good fine again .. and i use wide screen (1280x768) what can i do? my menu.lst file:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54150/
[23:14] <bkb> Stepa2-> and you are on liveCD now?
[23:14] <Stepa2> Jordan_U: not sure what you mean
[23:14] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: no, I deleted vista
[23:14] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, You can start typing "bobbob1016" then hit tab, as in type "bob" and hit tab, I know that works in XChat, not sure about Kopete.
[23:15] <syntaxerror55> Kopete != good IRC client
[23:15] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I am using opera on another windows system actually, but it works here too
[23:15] <Jordan_U> !info testdisk | Stepa2
[23:15] <ubotu> stepa2: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[23:15] <b4l74z4r> does vlc install codecs system-wide or does it contain its own codecs?
[23:15] <dennisharrison> howdy #ubuntu
[23:16] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: the system I am working on currently is entire;y unconnected
[23:16] <angasule>  I have some pdfs with images I want to convert to html (and still see the images, obviously), pdftohtml isn't outputting images
[23:16] <dennisharrison> trying to make apache2 use a specific php.ini file
[23:16] <syntaxerror55> !hi | dennisharrison
[23:16] <ubotu> dennisharrison: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:16] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: however once I get the wireless working ;)
[23:16] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Just saying, since I don't have XChat open all the time, and I might miss a response or two from you if you don't have my name correctly in it, since I don't get notified.  I'm looking into where the device manager is.  Did you try Restricted Drivers Manager?  Not sure where it is on KDE, but it usually installs wifi.
[23:16] <dennisharrison> can't get anything to work out for me over here :)  6.10LTS, I have /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[23:17] <syntaxerror55> dennisharrison: 6.10 isn't LTS ;D It's 6.06 :)
[23:17] <dennisharrison> I have changed both of them to have upload_max_filesize to 20M instead of 2M
[23:17] <dennisharrison> syntaxerror55, you got me there, its is 6.06 ;p
[23:18] <dennisharrison> I /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and php is still whining about upload_max_filesize being set to 2M
[23:18] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, I'd start my laptop running KDE, but it is running openSUSE with KDE, and they use YAST as a manager for pretty much everything, so don't think that'll help with Kubuntu.
[23:18] <KingPython> how can you use well shell screen for 1280x768 resolution on ubuntu?
[23:18] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: Once I get this working I can debug all the other non-working things on it (like sound), but this is top proprity, nods
[23:18] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: quite alright
[23:18] <StrangeCharm_> KingPython: i'm not sure i understand what you mean
[23:18] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Since this is a new-ish laptop, do you have the box by any chance?  It might have the model listed on there
[23:18] <syntaxerror55> dennisharrison: Maybe #apache could help
[23:18] <KingPython> my shell screen resolation isnt fine and so i added vga options to /boot/grub/menu.lst but it gave me an error for resolation when booting and shell isnt good fine again .. and i use wide screen (1280x768) what can i do? my menu.lst file:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54150/
[23:18] <totoro7> Hi, I need help on configuring my router to use ekiga
[23:19] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: found restricted drivers thing, 1 sec
[23:19] <StrangeCharm_> KingPython: sorry, i've no idea
[23:19] <dennisharrison> I even did a locate php.ini and changed every file to have 20M instead of 2M and restarted apache without using graceful, just to 'make sure' and still get the same php error, let me take this time to say that I really despise php in general, and ask if anyone knows what I am talking about :)
[23:19] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Try running "kde-hal-device-manager" if that doesn't work.  I think you need to be online for Restricted Drivers manager to work.
[23:19] <Ironman1> hey how do i log in ass root
[23:19] <syntaxerror55> !root | Ironhand
[23:19] <ubotu> Ironhand: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:19] <Ironman1> i need to get permission of a ext hard drive
[23:19] <syntaxerror55> Ironman1: woops, that was directed towards you
[23:20] <totoro7> I've already configured the ports to forward and they seem to be working using "nc"
[23:20] <Stepa3> bkb: I lost the window for a sec
[23:20] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, sudoers, %wheel, love it :)
[23:20] <Ein2015> scientology.org is down \o/
[23:20] <Stepa3> can you repeat from what i said lat
[23:20] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: kde-hal-device-manager is not installed
[23:20] <syntaxerror55> Ein2015: this isn't #xenu
[23:20] <Spee_Der> nemilar, bkb,  Many thanks for the assist.
[23:20] <totoro7> and yet the wizard still asks me to forward the ports
[23:20] <KingPython> StranfeCharm_: i can understand you but one person for in 1200 people must to use buutnu in thier lap top.. how can they use shell for zlt+ctrl+f1??
[23:20] <Ironman1> will that let me have permission of a ext hard driver
[23:20] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, What did Restricted Drivers Manager do?
[23:20] <Ein2015> lol syntaxerror55 :)
[23:20] <BehiiMehii> Could somebody look at a PasteBin and help me out install an app please?
[23:20] <linchapulin> Anyone had trouble with Audacity closing down when clicking the record button?
[23:20] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: strange to hear that you're having problems
[23:21] <bkb> Stepa2-> and you are on liveCD now?
[23:21] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: maybe you should check phpinfo() to see which config file that it is using
[23:21] <Stepa3> bkb: yes
[23:21] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, good idea! where is phpinfo? ;p
[23:21] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: told me that my ati card has an avialable driver but its not enabled so I can't use it yet :P
[23:21] <Ironman1> hey dennisharris
[23:21] <Ironman1> how will sudo let me write to a ext hard drive
[23:21] <Ironman1> right now i dont have rights to it
[23:22] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, I am only doing this for a sugarcrm upgrade and my first language was c++ and I moved into python and c# recently, so php is pretty foreign to me
[23:22] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: you just create a php file that just contains <?php phpinfo() ?>
[23:22] <bkb> Stepa2-> do you have another place to store data once you have the abilities to look at those xp data?
[23:22] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, Sorry, I can't help much passed this.  I know there are some terminal things you can do to figure out the model number, but I don't know them.
[23:22] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, thank you very much! :)
[23:22] <BehiiMehii> http://pastebin.ca/885540 -- what would be the right directory for this?
[23:22] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I can transfer files from this system to my laptop via usb
[23:22] <linchapulin> Ironman1::
[23:22] <Stepa3> bkb: yes, i have another drive which i have access to even right now
[23:22] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: I think you are editing the right file though : /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini for me
[23:22] <bkb> Stepa2-> okay, then mount the xp partition
[23:22] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, yes, that is why I am a 'leetle' confused :)
[23:23] <Ironman1> linchapulin u know?
[23:23] <bkb> Stepa2-> and also the destination drive/partition
[23:23] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I will see if I can get kde-hal-device-manager, and use apt-zip
[23:23] <Stepa3> bkb
[23:23] <Stepa3> bkb: i cant, ubuntu will not be able to
[23:23] <linchapulin> Ironman1:: Sorry bout that...it is a file permissions problem that you have to correct with umask in your fsab file..I assume the external drive is ntfs/fat32?
[23:23] <bkb> Stepa2-> what do you meant you can not? what did you do so far?
[23:23]  * linchapulin can't type tonight
[23:23] <dreamnid> although phpinfo might be easier to check to see if you're setting max file upload size
[23:23] <Ironman1> no its a apple partition
[23:23] <syntaxerror55> Ironman1: I don't get what you're trying to do. What are you trying to write there? Are you trying to move something there? Copy something there?
[23:23] <linchapulin> Ironman1:: I meant *fstab*
[23:24] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: (sorry) although phpinfo might be easier to check to see if you're setting max file upload size
[23:24] <ConstyXIV> is there any sort of zune support in ubuntu?
[23:24] <Stepa3> bkb: i was on here yesterday and i tried doing that and someone said that my drive is damadged and only minixp will get it gixed
[23:24] <Ironman1> i need to copy a file to my ext hdd
[23:24] <syntaxerror55> !zune | ConstyXIV
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <bobbob1016> dennisharrison, You mentioned you use C#, you wouldn't have that working in Ubuntu by any chance, would you?  I'm installing Visual Studio 2008 in a Virtual Box XP now, but I'd prefer via wine, not sure if you managed that.
[23:24] <syntaxerror55> ConstyXIV: Hmm. :| I'm not sure.
[23:24] <edueb> my gnome-panel doesn't show the applications in the background, what can i do?
[23:24] <white_eagle_> bobbob1016, ???
[23:24] <bkb> Stepa2-> will if that is the case, why repeat same steps over today when you know it will not work?
[23:24] <linchapulin> edueb:: What happens when you alt-tab?
[23:25] <white_eagle_> !info monodevelop | bobbob1016
[23:25] <dennisharrison> bobbob1016, yeah I am using 7.10 for my personal dev box, and I am using mono tools
[23:25] <Ironman1> You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[23:25] <ubotu> bobbob1016: monodevelop (source: monodevelop): C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm/ASP.NET Development Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2273 kB, installed size 7280 kB
[23:25] <Stepa3> bkb: im trying to burn minixp to a cd
[23:25] <syntaxerror55> Ironman1:  sudo cp /home/ironman1/file.ext /path/to/external/harddrive/filt.ext
[23:25] <white_eagle_> what the hell are you talking about
[23:25] <edueb> linchapulin, i can scroll between the apps
[23:25] <white_eagle_> ubuntu is def. better than windows for programming
[23:25] <Ironman1> thx
[23:25] <white_eagle_> bobbob1016,
[23:25] <bkb> Stepa2-> now you are getting into something different, do you want to see the data on the infected drive or you want to burn cd?
[23:26] <bobbob1016> white_eagle_, Not everyone can choose when the professor says he wants to use C#.
[23:26] <bkb> mono
[23:26] <white_eagle_> what do you mean, which proffesor, yours?
[23:26] <syntaxerror55> bobbob1016: he's obviously ill informed
[23:26] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, ok, so somewhere in one of the additional .ini files it is being reset apparently, does that make sense?  because I see it is parsing additional .ini files from apache2/conf.d
[23:26] <edueb> linchapulin, but i want to see the apps on the panel
[23:26] <white_eagle_> why so hard nick bobbob1016 :)
[23:27] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, is there a way to make sure that whatever I set in php.ini is going to 'stick' or will I have to go and find the offending file and update that as well>?
[23:27] <white_eagle_> ...
[23:27] <white_eagle_> what are you doing syntaxerror55 ?
[23:27] <linchapulin> edueb:: I understand...however I have never felt a need to delve into how to change the default way the panel is setup..sorry
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: No version?
[23:27] <white_eagle_> having fun?
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: Just a /ctcp version
[23:27] <white_eagle_> :)
[23:27] <white_eagle_> I know
[23:27] <white_eagle_> kidding
[23:27] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: okay I have kde-hal-device-manager
[23:27] <Stepa3> bkb: i want to see the data, i thought the cd was the only way
[23:27] <bobbob1016> syntaxerror55, He said he'd usually do it in LISP, it's an AI class, but since we all know C++, and LISP is so different, he wanted to do C#, since the school requires that he teach it in something other than C++
[23:27] <Stepa3> bkb: got any tips
[23:28] <white_eagle_> syntaxerror55, you where guessing I use windows?
[23:28] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: well.. there is a hiearchy... it looks in php.ini as sort of your base configuration.  You can override them in your Apache config though
[23:28] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, I should just be able to grep -i I guess eh?
[23:28] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, And does it say what your wifi is?
[23:28] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: I was guessing you use some horrible IRC client without tab completion.
[23:28] <edueb> linchapulin, ok. do you think that erasing the gnome conf i can solve the problem?
[23:28] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: I think so
[23:28] <roy_> hello,
[23:28] <white_eagle_> no I have tab completition
[23:28] <bobbob1016> bobbob1016, you might also try asking in #kubuntu
[23:28] <white_eagle_> I use it :0
[23:28] <white_eagle_> :)
[23:28] <bkb> Stepa2-> okay try,   mount -o loop -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdbadpartition /mnt
[23:28] <roy_> my gnome desktop does not appear when I log in (i.e., my desktop is all black)
[23:28] <white_eagle_> just type bob and tab
[23:28] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: then why'd you complain that bobbob1016's nick is hard? :D
[23:28] <roy_> how can I check where the problem is?
[23:28] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: admittedly, I never did this in Ubuntu so not sure if it does exist in one of those files
[23:29] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[23:29] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[23:29] <white_eagle_> because it is :)
[23:29] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: RTL8187B_WLAN_Adapter, that might be the port thou
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> bobbob1016: ahh. I only know Python. :B
[23:29] <linchapulin> edueb:: Probably an unwise choice..I would see the config file itself in your home folder and see if there is any comments in there on how to change the panel
[23:29] <bkb> Stepa2-> any result?
[23:29] <white_eagle_> syntaxerror55, python, as in hsssss hsssss? :)))
[23:29] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, No, that is the wireless card model number, now just google "ubuntu (model number)" or "kubuntu (model number)"
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: Python, as in the programming language
[23:29] <white_eagle_> :)
[23:29] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: RTL8101E PCI Express Fast Eathernet controller
[23:29] <white_eagle_> I know
[23:30] <white_eagle_> i was kidding
[23:30] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: ok
[23:30] <blag> one of the people i support is having a GRUB error 17 issue, what does that mean?
[23:30] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, The WLAN one
[23:30] <totoro7> Hi, I need some help configuring ekiga
[23:30] <bkb> and women wants pythons..oops..
[23:30] <bkb> j/k
[23:30] <Stepa3> bkb: what do i replace bad partition with
[23:30]  * white_eagle_ a guy can't even kid around
[23:30] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, hrmm, none of those has that declaration, but when I look at phpinfo I see it set to 6M
[23:30] <blag> nevermind
[23:30] <Stepa3> bkb: its a sata drive
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> bkb: :D
[23:30] <blag> thank you all
[23:30] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, check pm please
[23:30] <edueb> linchapulin, i know but i'm quite new on ubuntu and i don't know where to put my hands
[23:31] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: upload_max_filesize	6M	6M
[23:31] <bkb> Stepa2-> /dev/sda1   or sda2 or whatever you pasted earlier
[23:31] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: It is set to 6MB in your phpinfo....
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> white_eagle_: not here, but I'd be happy to in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, yep, but in php.ini I have it set to 40M
[23:31] <Stepa3> bkb: ohh, okay
[23:31] <evan_> hey guys im trying to get sound working in WoW, on alsa but i get this error in terminal when it runs: ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:31] <bobbob1016> syntaxerror55, I know SQL (haven't used it in 6 years), Java, C, C++, Scheme/LISP, and soon to be C#, not that I can program anywhere near syntax perfect in them though.  I'm going to look into python, and probably ruby at one point though.  My dad is an AS/400 guy, he does RPG.
[23:31] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: oh, then reload apache ?
[23:31] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: its all in german
[23:31] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, done :(
[23:31] <white_eagle_> syntaxerror55, I am already on ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <dennisharrison> upload_max_filesize = 40M
[23:32] <syntaxerror55> bobbob1016: you're much more talented then me
[23:32] <bkb> Stepa2-> any result?
[23:32] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: really?  the default is 2MB, so you have changed to 6 MB at one point
[23:32] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, haha .. check this out
[23:32] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: and it works on my end
[23:32] <Jouva> Hey folks, I'm trying to run gSTM on startup so I decided to manually put it in the session preferences "Startup programs" list manually. This is all fine and dandy, but the program is supposed to goto the tray automatically on startup and hide itself when there's automatic tunnels to connect to which it does. But it never does this on boot.
[23:32] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, It should be english, I think kubuntu-de is for german, I could be wrong though.
[23:32] <dennisharrison> ; sugar upload limit fix
[23:32] <dennisharrison> upload_max_filesize=6M
[23:32] <dan4> When my box boots, the resolution is always set to 1280x800, not 1440x900 which is what I want it to be. How can I set my box to boot up with that resolution instead of manually changing it?
[23:32] <evan_> err:alsa:ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:32] <evan_> fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on C-Media USB Headphone Set  , disabling mixer
[23:32] <dennisharrison> in another file that sugar parses
[23:32] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: haha, stupid sugar
[23:32] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, thanks man :)
[23:32] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I mean all the google sites ;)
[23:32] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: no prob :-P
[23:32] <Ryuho> I need help with my wacom freezing during onboard (screenkey) enabled the first time around, but not when i log in (using external keyboard) and logging back out (then the wacom tablet works)
[23:32] <Jordan_U> bobbob1016, You should try perl, it's just a really fun language
[23:32] <Ironman1> damn this sucks
[23:32] <linchapulin> edueb:: Well that is ok everyone starts somewhere...I would suggest google or ubuntuforum.org to search and see if anyone(more than likely) has wanted to make the change as you do
[23:33] <Ironman1> why can  i just log in ass root
[23:33] <Ironman1> why do they make it so hard for me to do that
[23:33] <Stepa3> bkb: not sure if its doing anything
[23:33] <oli> Ironman1: dude, sudo passwd
[23:33] <dennisharrison> Iradieh, you can log in as root, but that is a "HORRRRRRRIIIIBBBBLLLLEEEEE" idea
[23:33] <danbhfive> Ironman1: sudo su
[23:33] <bkb> Stepa2-> any result? or nothing?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Ironhand, Because it's insecure and totally unnecessary
[23:33] <oli> Ironman1: or sudo bash
[23:33] <Iradieh> dennisharrison roger that
[23:33] <danbhfive> Ironman1: maybe its sudo su -p
[23:33] <linchapulin> Ironman1:: Or sudo -i
[23:33] <edueb> linchapulin, thank you for the help ;)
[23:33] <dennisharrison> sudo su - ? ;p
[23:33] <bobbob1016> syntaxerror55, I wouldn't say that, I mean I've programmed in those, I guess that is what happens when your dad started you playing Sesame Street on a DOS machine when all you tried to do was play Leisure Suit Larry, and couldn't get the questions right.  A bit off topic though.
[23:33] <evan_> Hey can someone help me to get my sound working in World of Warcraft?
[23:33] <dan4> When my box boots, the resolution is always set to 1280x800, not 1440x900 which is what I want it to be. How can I set my box to boot up with that resolution instead of manually changing it?
[23:34] <Stepa3> just blank
[23:34] <bkb> Stepa2-> any result? or nothing? hurry up,. i need to use the comode
[23:34] <Jouva> And I think it's because the program starts before the tray is available. But I tried modifying the priority in "current session" from 50 to 99, but it may have even started earlier now, but the current session info says priority of 50 again. How do I make the program run last on startup as a manual program?
[23:34] <oPeN-SouRCe> hi
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Ironhand, And to be blunt, if you don't know how to log in as root, you almost certainly shouldn't be doing it
[23:34] <Jouva> err manual entry
[23:34] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, by default your default user is in sudoers
[23:34] <oPeN-SouRCe> im from argentina
[23:34] <syntaxerror55> bobbob1016: Yeah. ;D
[23:34] <bkb> Stepa2-> no response is a good sign....now  ls -la /mnt and lets see if any files are there
[23:34] <syntaxerror55> oPeN-SouRCe: okay
[23:34] <linchapulin> edueb:: No problem..BTW I did look in my own hidden directory you have to issue ls -al in a folder to see them..they are prefixed with a period..therefore hidden
[23:34] <oPeN-SouRCe> i have a problem with apt-get
[23:34] <Stepa3> bkb: thing is , its not even showing ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[23:35] <oPeN-SouRCe> can i paste the traduced terminal output?
[23:35] <evan_> err:alsa:ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:35] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, hey in php somewhere can I set like the 'session length' or cookie timeout or something to keep users logged in a bit longer? or will that most likely be in sugar somewhere?
[23:35] <bkb> Stepa2-> incase i forget, you must be root to mount, so prepend  sudo mount....
[23:35] <linchapulin> edueb:: There was nothing in there that looked like a config file...usally end in .conf  .... so it is more than likely in a different directory path
[23:35] <evan_> hey guys im trying to get sound working in WoW, on alsa but i get this error in terminal when it runs: ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:35] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: I haven't used sugar in awhile... but there is a pretty good chance that they also set it
[23:35] <Starnestommy> oPeN-SouRCe: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:35] <edueb> linchapulin, yes i'm using nautilus with hidden files enabled. i'll try to make a copy of the dir and than delete the original
[23:35] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, bastards ;p
[23:35] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: but to answer your quesiton, it is specified in php.ini too
[23:35] <dan4> When my box boots, the resolution is always set to 1280x800, not 1440x900 which is what I want it to be. How can I set my box to boot up with that resolution instead of manually changing it everytime?
[23:36] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, what is it usually caled?
[23:36] <Stepa3> bkb: i did that, thanks
[23:36] <dennisharrison> s/caled/called
[23:36] <bkb> Stepa2-> any result? or nothing? hurry up,. i need to use the comode
[23:36] <oli>  /j #ubuntu-pl
[23:36] <Stepa3> bkb: still nothing
[23:36] <linchapulin> edueb:: All that will do is to recreate what you already have there I believe
[23:36] <oli> fck
[23:36] <bkb> Stepa2-> what command you typed?
[23:36] <bobbob1016> syntaxerror55, Speaking of which, time to fire up dosbox...
[23:36] <evan_> hey guys im trying to get sound working in WoW, on alsa but i get this error in terminal when it runs: ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:36] <Family> hello
[23:36] <totoro7> I need help configuring ekiga...
[23:36] <Chase-san> bobbob1016: I'll have to compile it but I found something (I perfer to use packages when I can)
[23:36] <Shinobi> !language | oli
[23:36] <Family> im trying to install ubuntu
[23:36] <ubotu> oli: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:36] <syntaxerror55> bobbob1016: Heh. :D
[23:36] <Family> and i already setup my partitions
[23:36] <edueb> linchapulin, but it should recreate with default settings
[23:36] <Stepa3> bkb: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -o loop -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:36] <Blais1> Can someone tell me how I can change my fonts used for my panel?
[23:36] <linchapulin> Hey Dr_willis
[23:36] <Ledarky_> quit
[23:36] <Ironman1> damn
[23:37] <bobbob1016> Chase-san, At least you found it.  Good luck.
[23:37] <linchapulin> edueb: We are talking Gnome here no? Yes you are correct
[23:37] <bkb> Stepa2-> no response is a good sign....now  ls -la /mnt and lets see if any files are there
[23:37] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: it's one of the parameters of the 'session' variable
[23:37] <edueb> linchapulin, yes gnome 2.20
[23:37] <Dr_willis> Hello linchapulin
[23:37] <d_test> but ubuntu installer wants me to mount my partition on '/'
[23:37] <d_test> and that doesn't work
[23:37] <Stepa3> bkb: it does not do anything
[23:37] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, thank you very much :)
[23:37] <dreamnid> :-)
[23:38] <Stepa3> bkb: and my no response, i mean the line is just blank
[23:38] <bkb> Stepa2-> so you may not have data on /dev/sda1  try to mount the /dev/sda2  and so on
[23:38] <exneo> hey how do I get sound working with my alc880 realtek hda-intel on gutsy
[23:38] <dreamnid> dennisharrison: just don't ask me which one it actually is because looking through it, there are several possible parameters that you're looking for :-P
[23:38] <oli> can Ii resize reiserFS partition without losing my data?
[23:38] <bkb> Stepa3-> when you ls -la /mnt   there are no responses?
[23:38] <dennisharrison> dreamnid, yeah I see that, eh I can play around a bit :)
[23:38] <asymptote> how do I install JRE into firefox
[23:38] <arjuna> just testing xchat for the first time
[23:39] <evan_> hey guys im trying to get sound working in WoW, on alsa but i get this error in terminal when it runs: ALSA_CheckSetVolume Could not find 'PCM Playback Volume' element
[23:39] <oPeN-SouRCe> ok, i pasted it on paste.ubuntu-nl.com, what i do now
[23:39] <Stepa3> bkb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54156/
[23:39] <bkb> Stepa3-> you are too slow, i come back later, more important thing to do
[23:39] <Jordan_U> !java | asymptote
[23:39] <ubotu> asymptote: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[23:39] <danbhfive> evan_: maybe you should try #wine
[23:39] <Stepa3> bkb: i would be faster, i there is nothing new to say
[23:39] <Stepa3> bkb: check the paste bin
[23:39] <bkb> Stepa3-> you dont type all those command at once, one is mount, then ls -la
[23:39] <asymptote> Jordan_U thank you
[23:39] <evan_> danbhfive: ok i will thanks
[23:40] <Jordan_U> asymptote, np
[23:40] <dan4> When my box boots, the resolution is always set to 1280x800, not 1440x900 which is what I want it to be. How can I set my box to boot up with that resolution instead of manually changing it everytime?
[23:40] <bkb> Stepa3-> laters...
[23:40] <dennisharrison> dan4, xorg.conf
[23:40] <robobob> hey im having issues with ktorrent, i moved all the files i was seeding, how do i get ktorrent to pick up this?
[23:40] <Ironman1> this is some bullshit
[23:40] <d_test> my ubuntu installer wants to mount my partition on '/' and that won't work
[23:40] <snorkel> whats a good tool to check for open ports on linux?
[23:41] <dan4> dennisharrison, im looking at it, theres nothing about default resolution or similar..
[23:41] <dennisharrison> Ironman1 just do sudo passwd root, then you can set a root password and login as root from then on, but it is a bad idea
[23:41] <oli> Ironman1: go back to vista
[23:41] <Ironman1> vista sucks
[23:41] <Jouva> Ok now I have a completely different question: What does it mean when Ubuntu freezes and the caps lock and scroll lock LEDs are flashing? :P
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !omfg | Ironman1
[23:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omfg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:41] <Pici> !language | Ironman1
[23:41] <ubotu> Ironman1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:41] <Ironman1> all i want to do is drag and drop a file
[23:41] <oli> dennisharrison: it's good idea for users who know what are they doing
[23:41] <totoro7> erm... I need some help configuring my router to use ekiga
[23:42] <Enron> I have www.site.com/blah/file.zip , how do I make it so if someone goes to www.site.com/blah it will auto get www.site.com/blah/file.zip
[23:42] <DjViper> totoro7: find out which port ekiga use it and open it in NAT
[23:42] <linchapulin> Uhh..yeah you think oli ;-)
[23:42] <totoro7> Already did that
[23:42] <totoro7> netcat can open ports ok
[23:42] <Ironman1> i tried that dennis but still still says something about admin cant log in
[23:42] <d_test> my ubuntu installer wants to mount my partition on '/' and it won't mount
[23:42] <dennisharrison> oli, not really, root should only be used for single user mode to reset credentials during a hack or if you have remote kvm to do some system upgrades or kernel hacking...
[23:42] <neverblue> Enron, ask in #apache, as its not really 'ubuntu' related
[23:42] <DjViper> totoro7: tbh. this channel doesn't cover support for either ekiga nor your router :P
[23:42] <totoro7> and external sources can access it without any problem.
[23:42] <DjViper> just f.y.i.
[23:42] <totoro7> oh, I see
[23:42] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, well then that wasn't your problem
[23:43] <totoro7> where should I seek help then?
[23:43] <DjViper> totoro7: but if we can help..
[23:43] <totoro7> yay :D
[23:43] <robobob> hey im having issues with ktorrent, i moved all the files i was seeding, how do i get ktorrent to pick up this?
[23:43] <Ironman1> all i want to do is drag and drop a file on a ext hdd
[23:43] <Darko3d> hey, i have a windows system with a malfunctioning DVD drive, i wanna boot an OS from a usb drive
[23:43] <Ironman1> is the crazy
[23:43] <DjViper> totoro7: well whats the problem then?
[23:43] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: hardcore users do everything as root... from a shell... without multiplexing :p
[23:43] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, lol yeah, no screen, no nothing ;p
[23:43] <DjViper> totoro7: if netcat can open ports and outside sources can see it?
[23:44] <totoro7> yes, that's correct
[23:44] <totoro7> ports 5000-5100
[23:44] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, wtf are you trying to do?  you have a usb hardrive and you want to mount it right?
[23:44] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: in my day, you had two ttys if you were lucky!
[23:44] <Darko3d> i remember once, that i downloaded a small application that i placed on a floppy disk and when i booted from the floppy disk it ran switch to the usb drive. anybody knows anything about that
[23:44] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, used the provided tools to do so, go into your 'Computer' under Places, and then double click on the device, it will ask for your password
[23:44] <Ironman1> no i have a ext hard drive that i want to put a video on but i dont have permission
[23:44] <DjViper> Ironhand: do you have the ntfs-3g driver?
[23:44] <lqsilent> Question: I'm trying to install ubuntu on my system for the first time. When I boot from the cd, downloaded from the ubuntu website, it boots from cd and gives me an options prompt. I've selected start ubuntu and start in graphics safe mode. In either mode, i get to the scrolling load bar, and then the graphics go nuts and it freezes. It then tells me to eject the disc, and boots into windows. Is there something i'm doing wrong?
[23:45] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, yeah .. if system had enough memory to support two tty's for your one user cause everyone and their mom had a shell :)
[23:45] <totoro7> 5000-5100, 3478-3479 and 1720 are already forwarding ok, both TCP and UDP protocols
[23:45] <Ironman1> i can read but not write
[23:45] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, is it ntfs?
[23:45] <totoro7> and still, ekiga says I need to forward ports
[23:45] <Ironman1> no
[23:45] <DjViper> Ironhand: look under Applications -> System tools for NTFS Configuration tools
[23:45] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, what fat?
[23:45] <Darko3d> how do i boot the live cd from a usb drive
[23:45] <Ironman1> hfs
[23:45] <DjViper> totoro7: oh I see... hmm
[23:45] <dennisharrison> Ironman1, hfs?
[23:45] <holzmodem> hi,... I want to switch the Display with the Fn Key. This works only on a TTY but not on the xserver. The xorg.log tells my that (WW) RADEON(0): Option "BIOSHotkeys" is not used, but why? This works under Feisty 100%. What's wrong, is this option in the new driver disabled? (7.10, open radeon driver)
[23:45] <Darko3d> how do i boot the live "iso" from a usb drive
[23:45] <oli> lqsilent: maybe your hardware is not supported
[23:45] <dennisharrison> what is hfs vista?
[23:46] <Ironman1> apple
[23:46] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: you'd have considered yourself lucky if you had local backup store. and don't think of using ftp to save things. you'd better hope that you're dd-ing them onto the right device, with the right encoding
[23:46] <Darko3d> anybody gona help me
[23:46] <robobob> hey im having issues with ktorrent, i moved all the files i was seeding, how do i get ktorrent to pick up this?
[23:46] <oli> lqsilent: try to run ubuntu in safe graphic mode or download the alternate CD
[23:46] <neverblue> Darko3d, you cannot
[23:46] <Stepa1> bkb: u there?
[23:47] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, lol, wtf are you doing in #ubuntu?
[23:47] <dan4> When im configuring xserver-xorg, whats the keyboard command to enable a resolution in the video modes part?
[23:47] <Ledarky_> hello
[23:47] <Darko3d> how come
[23:47] <oli> Darko3d: google! use isolinux app (aka. syslinux)
[23:47] <Stepa1> bkb: I got disconected again for some reason
[23:47] <lqsilent> oli: my hardware is fairly standard. pentium 4 3.0ghz, fairly standard and slightly old gigabyte motherboard.
[23:47] <Stepa1> bkb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54157/
[23:47] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, like me you got tired of the 'free only if your freetime has no value' approach of slack/gentoo ? ;p
[23:47] <lqsilent> oli: i've tried the safe mode. i will try the alternate cd.
[23:47] <Pici> What is the cli application used if I want to get character codes?
[23:47] <Darko3d> i'll do that
[23:47] <dennisharrison> I mean ubuntu isn't the end all be all... but damn if it isn't so sexy and stable for most stuff
[23:47] <DjViper> totoro7: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=35567025
[23:47] <lqsilent> oli: i've checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SupportedHardware but there is little hardware information to be found.
[23:48] <lqsilent> is there another list of supported hardware?
[23:48] <dan4> When im configuring xserver-xorg, whats the keyboard command to enable a resolution in the video modes part?
[23:48] <dan4> I think its shift something..?
[23:48] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, funny that you mention dd actually, just got finished using rdiff over rync then dd to partitioned tap devices for a tape bot recently
[23:48] <oli> lqsilent: imo alternate will work well
[23:48] <totoro7> DjViper: Thanks, I'll take a look :D
[23:48] <oli> lqsilent: it has to ;)
[23:49] <snorkel> whats a good tool to check for open ports and sevices?
[23:49] <bkb> Stepa1-> two separate commands,  mount  and ls -la  do not put them in one line, or separate them with ;
[23:49] <DjViper> totoro7: np
[23:49] <robobob> dark03d do u wnt ubuntu on a pen drive or live cd?
[23:49] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: i'm just pretending that i know what i'm doing? no, i'm a lazy sod. ubuntu doesn't require work, so i use it, if it required work to use, i'd be installing one of them there hacked osx disks or maybe some xp
[23:49] <oli> snorkel: netstat & nmap
[23:49] <blendtux> never
[23:49] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: it is my firm opinion that xp is basically crack in os form
[23:49] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, no doubt, I have a hackintosh sitting right next to me
[23:50] <lqsilent> oli: thanks for the tip. i was hoping for a better solution, but i will take your advice.
[23:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I find the implication tht OS-X or XP dosent  require work.. to be funny,
[23:50] <bkb> snorkel-> add  lsof -i   to that
[23:50] <Stepa1> bkb: okay
[23:50] <Stepa1> bkb: ill do it again
[23:50] <dennisharrison> StrangeCharm_, Dr_willis I find that ubuntu is the most complete OS by far
[23:50] <barfender> my monitor gives me 'no signal' after using ubuntu for like 10min (the time frame is usually within 30min). I am using fglrx (ati x1900xtx) and an LCD TV with dvi connection. What might be causing this?
[23:50] <Stepa1> bkb: just stay with me pleae
[23:50] <clearmark> Do any of you run Ubuntu as your only OS on Mac laptops?
[23:50] <lqsilent> oli: my only concern is that if the installer won't run at all, is the operating system going to experience similar problems?
[23:50] <bkb> Stepa1-> you have to rush, cant wait for you
[23:50] <oli> lqsilent: have you got any additional HW like tv cards or sth?
[23:50] <dennisharrison> clearmark, honestly... why?  just to feel the burn of cult pricing?
[23:51] <Stepa1> bkb: okay, ill try my best
[23:51] <robobob> you want to extract boot files from iso then Download extract-boot-files.zip
[23:51] <robobob> Extract and open readme for more instruction. and skip to step 4
[23:51] <lqsilent> oli: i have a pci tv card installed
[23:51] <oli> lqsilent: I think no, live cd often makes problem
[23:51] <Stepa1> bkb: im guessing its loading again
[23:51] <WaY> hello
[23:51] <smaq5> salut
[23:51] <clearmark> dennisharrison: I bought a mac a while ago. Now I discovered Ubuntu and want to get rid of proprietary sofware.
[23:51] <WaY> does anybody knows any tool like nero for creating and editing dvd menus?
[23:51] <oli> lqsilent: yep, it can be reason of problem
[23:52] <lqsilent> oli: i'll try that too. thank you for your help again.
[23:52] <oli> lqsilent: its good  to take off additional hardware during the installation
[23:52] <blendtux> yeahb
[23:52] <dennisharrison> clearmark, it should 'just work' afaik ?
[23:52] <bkb> Stepa2-> okay try,   mount -o loop -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdbadpartition /mnt     in one line
[23:52] <bkb> Stepa1-> ls -la /mnt   on another line
[23:52] <Jouva> What does it mean when Ubuntu freezes and the caps lock and scroll lock LEDs are flashing?
[23:52] <clearmark> dennisharrison: cool
[23:52] <totoro7> back, pidgin crashed
[23:52] <oli> Jouva: it's a kernel error : o
[23:52] <Jouva> Oh fun.
[23:53] <Jouva> That's what I thought :P Oh well
[23:53] <Chase-san> well, its not working, as it wont build correctly
[23:53] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: well, it's a perverse sort of thing really. see, on ubuntu, you can do everything that an os can do, everything that debian can do. however, even the simple things are difficult, though well-designed. on osx, you can do easy things easily and everthing else through the terminal. on windows, you can do some things, and -though none of them are easy or intuitive - they're all straightforward once you get the right doublethingk going
[23:53] <oli> Jouva: have you compiled your own kernel?
[23:53] <Jouva> Nope
[23:53] <f0rtune> How can i add a normal user to the group 'root'?
[23:54] <oli> Jouva: when does it freeze?
[23:54] <Jouva> This was the first time. About 15 minutes ago
[23:54] <Stepa1> bkb: got it
[23:54] <Jouva> But I've only had this for a month
[23:54] <Starnestommy> f0rtune: add them to the admin grouip, not the root group
[23:54] <Jouva> But I DID add bttv recently into the modprobe config
[23:54] <Jouva> But I loaded it the other day and it had no problems
[23:54] <f0rtune> Starnestommy: can i add hem to the root group?
[23:54] <f0rtune> them*
[23:55] <Stepa1> bkb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54160/
[23:55] <erawfish> bttv can be very "temperamental"
[23:55] <erawfish> both the whardware and drivers for it
[23:55] <Starnestommy> f0rtune: there's no reason to
[23:55] <oli> Jouva: if it doesn't repeat - f**k this : P
[23:55] <dan4> When im configuring xserver-xorg, whats the keyboard command to enable a resolution in the video modes part?
[23:55] <Jouva> Yeah
[23:55] <Chase-san> I could always try ndis
[23:55] <Jouva> Thanks though
[23:55] <f0rtune> Starnestommy: Can you just tell me how to, lol is that a problem?
[23:55] <totoro7> DjViper:
[23:55] <Jouva> Also, is there any way I can change the order of MANUALLY entered session startup applications?
[23:55] <Stepa1> bkb: do i still go through with ls -la /mnt
[23:56] <bkb> Stepa1-> just like what those folks yesterday advised you, you have a hard disk problem...use  ultimate boot cd to do repairs, i dont know how to use them
[23:56] <DjViper> totoro7: yes?
[23:56] <f0rtune> How can I add users to the 'root' group?
[23:56] <totoro7> sorry, pressed enter by mistake
[23:56] <DjViper> f0rtune: don't do that :)
[23:56] <DjViper> totoro7: okay hehe
[23:56] <Starnestommy> f0rtune: sudo adduser username groupname, but adding a user to that group probably won't have the desired results
[23:56] <d_test> hello can anyone help me install ubuntu?
[23:56] <totoro7> :)
[23:56] <Jordan_U> f0rtune, Why would you want to do that?
[23:56] <Stepa1> bkb: okay, do you know why i has having errors burning to cd?
[23:56] <dan4> When im configuring xserver-xorg, whats the keyboard command to enable a resolution in the video modes part?
[23:56] <StrangeCharm_> dennisharrison: but i want *games* no, not those games, despite their enthralling gameplay, i want these *other* games for variously undisclosed reasons. also, a registry, i *love* the registry. i can't think of a more straightforward and bulletproof way to install and manage apps. individual conf files with distinctive but simplistic syntaxes? who needs them? let's put everything in one difficult-to-access place that humans can't understand witho
[23:56] <StrangeCharm_> ut special training
[23:56] <dystopianray> dan4: space
[23:57] <f0rtune> its just a question guys, and thanks
[23:57] <bkb> Stepa1-> i dont know,
[23:57] <Stepa1> bkb: okay, thanks for your help
[23:57] <Chase-san> ha it seems realtek has a linux driver, i'll try that
[23:58] <n3uro5i5> hi all
[23:58] <d_test> ubuntu is not installing for me, the install just goes back to the partition mananger after waiting a bit
[23:58] <n3uro5i5> anyone uses evolution?
[23:58] <yhan> I can't sleep my T60 laptop, how can I fix that ?
[23:58] <exneo> hey ubuntu gutsy recocnizes alc880 but won't play sounds through the headphone jack i've changed the m9ixer settings should I restart what
[23:58] <d_test> can anyone hear me ??
[23:58] <exneo> try mandriva
[23:59] <oli> d_test: what's your problem?
[23:59] <exneo> or opensuse kde4.0
[23:59] <d_test> ubuntu won't install
[23:59] <ferric84> how do i create a sym link?
[23:59] <oli> d_test: what happens?
[23:59] <d_test> i made the partitions
[23:59] <d_test> and everything went well
[23:59] <yhan> ferric84: ln -s file link
[23:59] <d_test> then i restarted ubuntu
[23:59] <exneo> so how do I fix my alsa problem
[23:59] <d_test> since the install icon stopped working for some reason
[23:59] <ferric84> thanks