[00:13] Anyone have synaptic installed? [00:21] nixternal: ok Think I'm done with the page [00:22] I have been done with it for hours [00:33] dasKreech: sure. [00:33] what's up? [00:34] You can sort packages by repo? [00:34] or filter? [00:36] dasKreech: well, you can create filters, but not easily for whole universe, only by sections [00:37] * dasKreech blinks. [00:38] So can I filter out packages installed from non canonical repos? [00:38] yes, with quite some clicking. [00:39] There's also a "Origin" view, but limited to one selection at a time. [00:39] Settings => Filters is what would fit best probably. [00:49] * dasKreech ponders a repo filter for adept [00:50] it could auto read the sources.list and populate a dropdown/checkbox [00:50] mornfall, yuriy: ping [00:51] why would anyone want to do that? [00:51] i can kind of see the use case.. but please explain [00:51] apt-cache show package |grep universe [00:52] I've been dumb and added a we provide everything!! repo [00:52] so remove it? [00:53] three months down the line after happily installing everything that updates I find all sorts of packages are mismatched and some packages they provide have been kept more up to date than the main packages but then stopped updating some are fully up to daet but most of all I don't recall which ones I installed [00:54] so I filter by the repo [00:54] woohoohoo [00:54] remove all and then remove the repo [00:54] * Tm_T just exploded itself [00:55] * dasKreech mentally shifts Tm_T designation under "its" [00:55] dasKreech: that's what it is [00:55] dasKreech: I always mess up with him/her so it/its is better for me [00:56] I'm glad him works for it [00:58] yuriy: Removing it doesn't remove the worrisome packages as far as I know [00:58] Though thinking about it now It probably can't read from teh sources.list as that can be modified pretty easily [01:03] dasKreech: you're bit pushy ;) [01:03] dasKreech: remove the sources.list entry and then filter in synaptic by orphan/local. [01:04] blueyed: I know I'm trying to get easy filtering in adept too :) [01:04] Tm_T: Well stop me then [01:04] :-D [01:05] hahaha [01:05] !amarok | dasKreech [01:05] dasKreech: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok [01:05] Sweet :) [01:05] most people don't know they can update the factoids [01:06] So anytime someone mentions it I mention out loud that you can upadte it [01:06] helps the whole chan [01:06] most people don't have the final powers to it ;) [01:06] as in, only some people have editor rights [01:06] Doesn't matter though anyone can set a factoid for update [01:07] true [01:07] then me or some other have chance to mess it ;) [01:07] If we have power of community we might as well leverage it [01:07] community <3 [01:07] Might even get some devs out if it :) [01:07] true [01:07] thats how it usually works [01:08] I did send few patches to Kopete and see where I am now [01:08] ...wait, that's all I have done [01:08] * Tm_T hides [01:09] hooray [01:09] make kopete suck less [01:10] I did that, and trying [01:10] though doesn't suck here ;) [01:10] for msn it does [01:10] how come? [01:11] no videocam support is the biggest one [01:11] there is [01:11] Well it supports MSn [01:11] I use it often [01:11] since when [01:11] cheguevara: since 2006 or so [01:11] thats sucky [01:11] or earlier [01:11] * cheguevara scratches his head [01:11] thats weird [01:11] ;) [01:11] i tend to dislike programs that do too much in one anyway [01:12] * dasKreech laughs at cheguevara [01:12] cheguevara: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/foo_098.png [01:12] cheguevara: 2005 then ;) [01:13] hmm weird [01:13] amsn is still better :P [01:13] again [01:13] connects to MSN so it sucks :) [01:13] meh i need msn :P [01:13] licq now.... [01:14] mmm icq [01:14] I phear you [01:14] i remember them days :P [01:14] stop cursing [01:14] I hate msn, glad I don't need it really [01:14] lol [01:14] irc & jabber <3 [01:15] I know Jabber should nearly kill all [01:16] Other than nothing remotely interesting in terms of features [01:17] dasKreech: oh, jabber does have most features [01:17] dasKreech: if you don't stand too strictly in official ones atleast ;) [01:18] It has webcam? [01:18] yes [01:19] officially? [01:19] sweet [01:19] Oh wait it would [01:22] dasKreech: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0180.html [01:22] for example [01:26] I know it just hit me that it would [01:26] Photo/video sharing maybe not so much [01:27] Although that does become useful in business meetings as well [01:47] gn8 [01:58] any US person here? [01:58] yes [01:59] nixternal: awake? [01:59] tekteen: :) [01:59] * dasKreech isn't US [02:00] dasKreech: where you are from? [02:00] The Americas [02:00] erm [02:01] dasKreech: I need something to get mailed from U.S.A. to me [02:01] Not me :) [02:01] roger :) [02:01] are you from the us? [02:02] nope, from Finland [02:02] ok [02:02] why do you need something mailed to you? [02:02] about to get "free Star Wars goodies" if I have US mailing address [02:02] lol [02:02] lol [02:03] indeed [02:03] How much would it cost to have it mailed from the US to you? [02:03] prolly 10-20 dollars [02:04] my payment ofcourse [02:04] well 10-20 dollars tops, could be way less [02:04] I cant help [02:04] * dasKreech could possibly be in the US :) [02:04] tekteen: thanks anyway [02:04] brb [02:05] dasKreech, but you are not :P [02:05] For 20 dollars I can be [02:08] lol [02:41] nixternal: ping-a-ling! [02:41] * dasKreech hides behind his smile [02:41] ding dong [02:42] Jucato: !! [02:43] !! :hceerKsaD [02:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about hceerksad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:43] (: [02:43] Ha ha :) [02:43] I keep forgetting you are on the other side of the world [02:44] (: puy [02:44] Jucato <3 [02:44] Hobbsee <3 [02:44] :) [02:45] ♥ T_mT [02:46] Jucato: ha ha no reverse 3 [02:46] ε> [02:47] * dasKreech glares [02:47] Jucato: how are you son? [02:47] just fine. thank you [02:48] :) [02:48] good good [02:49] I need some advice. I have started a computer refurbishing group to use Kubuntu along with there Win2k systems. These are being sent to people who have not used windows much let alone Kubuntu. I am finding that there are too many configuration options (which I like but others don't) in kde programs. Anyone know of ways to fix that? [02:54] tekteen: what you mean, doesn't sane defaults be enough? [02:55] tekteen: or do you want configurations being hidden? [02:58] tektee1: yes? [02:58] Tm_T: sorry. my laptop over heated [02:58] oh and I am tekteen [02:58] its ok [02:58] I know who you are ;) [02:58] * Hobbsee suggests gnome [02:59] ahem. [02:59] lol [02:59] tektee1: though I'd recommend to set proper realname, "purple" is really generic [02:59] ok [02:59] Hobbsee: heh, I would have said that id I could stand it myself [02:59] Tm_T: these people are nwe at computers, remember? [02:59] I want to not show my ip [03:00] * Tm_T get real panic attacks when sitting in GNOME [03:00] that is my first problem [03:00] Hobbsee: I know :)) [03:00] tektee1: cloak [03:00] Hobbsee: that doesn't mean GNOME is straight away better [03:00] you meant the command /cloak? [03:00] tektee1: no [03:00] !cloak | tektee1 [03:00] thank you [03:01] ubotu: test [03:01] oh [03:01] he left us [03:01] Tm_T: for lack of options [03:01] tektee1: Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [03:01] Failed. [03:01] Hobbsee: hehe, true, that it does well [03:01] thanks [03:01] ubotu is smart [03:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [03:01] nm :-D [03:02] tektee1: you can even get ugly cloaks like mine [03:02] lol [03:02] I need to login/out (so I am tekteen) [03:03] ok [03:05] tekteen: Pidgin :( [03:06] anyone know some good and bearable quality IT news site in english? [03:06] neowin.net [03:06] slashdot.org? [03:06] slashdot.org is far from quality, remind you ;) [03:06] digg.com is more generic (used to be strict tech) [03:06] lol [03:09] ok, talking about this "news": http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,141763-c,vistalonghorn/article.html [03:09] wired? [03:09] heh, they count total numbers of "security holes" but how about unfixed? and severity? stupid... [03:09] tekteen: perhaps, I'll check it [03:10] lol [03:10] I think they might also take every package [03:10] not only the base system [03:10] need to go [03:10] anyway, FUD [03:11] * tekteen needs to go to be because mom told him to [03:11] bye [03:12] I'm not his mom, just so you know [03:13] Tm_T: I only have panic attacks in GNOME when I hit alt+space [03:13] too bad I do that right after login [03:14] hunger_t: ping [03:15] dasKreech: I don't do that [03:15] You just straight up panic? [03:15] yup [03:15] everything is misplaced and can't be configured to be not [03:16] it's just plain horror [03:25] digitimes.com? [03:29] !find mtp [03:29] Found: libmtp-dev, libmtp-doc, libmtp6, clamsmtp, esmtp (and 24 others) [03:30] bah [03:30] Ubtou sucks [03:30] * dasKreech speeels correctly [03:30] ultracap: ok, now I officially hate that site [03:31] how so? [03:31] stylesheet in site: failure [03:31] defined text colour but not background [03:32] I will look for a pretty news site :) [03:34] well its not about prettyness, it about readability [03:34] * Tm_T doesn't like black text in very dark background [03:35] Oh nixternal should love this :) [03:35] Need a gold horse for Hobbsee as well [03:35] what should I like? or love rather? [03:35] You saw the new plasma theme? [03:36] I am using it :) [03:36] serious? [03:36] the glow one? [03:36] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Widget+Background:+Fluffy+Bunny+?content=74480 [03:36] oh, not that one [03:36] hahaha [03:36] nixternal: hey, like to get mail and mail it to me forward? [03:37] I am seeing this with black text on white background [03:37] that is to damn funny [03:37] Tm_T: come again? [03:37] nixternal: real mail not the one you are used to [03:38] nixternal: http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/fluffybunny.png [03:38] nixternal: I could get free goodies if I provide US mail address [03:38] nixternal: so if you could receive them and then mail them to me... [03:38] nixternal: I pay mailing ofcourse [03:38] oh [03:39] I am sure we could work something out [03:39] lovely [03:39] * dasKreech kisses his US dollars good bye :( [03:39] dasKreech: haha [03:39] hehe [03:40] dasKreech: I bet nixternal could give you one if you be nice ;) [03:40] i was nice [03:40] stay that way, son [03:40] i flew to chicago to see him [03:41] you didn't fly here to see me, you had no choice but to fly here for a layover, nice try though :p [03:41] no i chose the flight with the chicago layover overnight [03:41] i didn't have to take that flight [03:41] that was the only flight that cheap, so it chose you :p [03:41] no i had 23 [03:42] i CHOSE that one [03:43] haha [03:43] hehe [03:43] well not really 23 [03:43] 23 if I put up the price by 18 dollars [03:43] the other trips were $100 more, and he chose the cheapest one just to see me :p [03:43] nixternal: anyway, msg me about this matter when you have amoment for it [03:43] but they quoted me 23 flights [03:44] who did you end up going through? [03:44] so technically not >that< price [03:44] AA [03:44] They suck [03:44] 8 hour flight [03:44] they gave me a cheese stick [03:44] on the return flight I had to pay for it [03:45] last time I flew on air jamaica I had a full cooked breakfast [03:46] Can we talk about flash/konqueror? [03:47] I suspect so [03:53] I'm getting a gtk-Critical error in my xsession error log. Should I post it? [03:55] ultracap: Are you on Gutsy or Hardy? [03:55] Hardy [03:55] OK. [03:56] Ok to post? [03:56] Sure. Not sure how much help there is this time of day. You might be better off just to file bugs. [03:57] The two people I know that've been working on that are both in Europe and probably sleeping right now. [03:59] Okay Thanks, I will file a bug. [04:00] 8 hour flight - they gave me a cheese stick!!!! dasKreech you are absolutely f'n hillarious! [04:19] nixternal: I know you should have been at the event :) [04:19] how was class btw? [04:26] sucky sucky sucky [04:26] meh [04:26] * Tm_T is sooo stuck [04:26] and I am sooo sick :/ [04:27] nixternal: oh I'm way past being sick [04:28] nixternal: so are you coming next year? [04:28] hiyas [04:28] i was told people here might be able to help w/ a crash? [04:30] dasKreech: if I can and you are paying :p [04:31] lol [04:32] * ttl pays in binary [04:32] adept_manager crashed, giving a "Signal 6 (SIGABRT)" [04:33] ahh, Signal 6 [04:33] I had asked Adept to upgrade my Kubuntu 7.10, since it said there were 129 upgrades available. After downloading some packages, it started processing... then it stops/dies. So I close adept. Afterwards, it never works again [04:33] that just means that adept_manager crashed :p [04:33] complaining that another process is using stuff, possibly apt-get, or aptitude [04:33] oh phooey [04:33] hehe [04:34] so... what does this mean? i have no backtrace either! [04:34] there is probably one update that is hanging that could possibly cause it to hiccup [04:34] in those cases, I typically just go to the command line to update [04:34] it said it was "using host libthread_db" etc. and that backtrace was not possible [04:34] command line to update? [04:34] our adept mastahs are sleeping right now [04:34] * Tm_T just don't use adept [04:34] sudo apt-get update [04:34] i don't remember which update it was... [04:34] sudo apt-get upgrade [04:34] or there is a possibility that you will need to do a: [04:34] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [04:35] dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg -- configure -a' to correct the problem [04:35] ttl: once you remember and learn apt-get at the command line, you will never go back to a gui :) [04:35] sudo dpkg --configure -a [04:35] nah [04:35] wajig daily-upgrade <3 [04:35] that will typically fix it, and that was causing adept to crash more than likely [04:36] there was a hung package (those 2 words do not belong together) [04:36] hmm [04:36] it's doing something.. lol [04:36] errors processing j2rel.4-mozilla-plugin [04:37] what is that?! [04:37] wow, haven't seen that one before [04:37] someone has extra repos don't they? [04:37] nixternal: apparently some whacky ones even =) [04:37] it's a java package for FX [04:37] maybe I should just not download FX? [04:37] reinstall K7.10 ? [04:37] ya, them 3rd party repos are dangerous, people like Tm_T put rootkits in their packages :) [04:38] and wait until they've really figured out adept? :-P [04:38] ttl: nah [04:38] nixternal: shusshhhhh [04:38] well that isn't adepts problem really [04:38] hehe [04:38] hm.. [04:38] adept loaded now... [04:38] yay! [04:38] let's see if it can do stuff... i'll stay away from java updates... [04:38] actually, I am a firm believer that if it is a 3rd party repo involved, it is there fault, not ours :) [04:38] ahh, java updates [04:38] i would agree w/ that [04:39] I do seem to remember an issue, and you might have gotten a bit caught up with the amount of updates there [04:39] so do a few at a time? [04:39] did you just install Kubuntu 7.10 to have 129 updates? [04:39] there are 129 [04:39] yes [04:39] do them all at once [04:39] I know the problem you are having [04:39] i downloaded 7.10 a week ago.. and have installed it 7x now b/c of this adept thing >.< [04:39] it doesn't happen all of the time either [04:40] oddness [04:40] * Tm_T is happy without adept [04:40] so i should wipe and reinstall ? [04:40] I had the issue on one desktop just a few weeks ago, but not the other desktop [04:40] no need to do a wipe and reinstall [04:40] are you sure I should do all the upgrades together? [04:40] I did [04:40] anyway, this old fart is going for some walk outside, there's snow!! -> [04:41] i was thinking to do the adept ones last... [04:41] we have snow coming tomorrow night [04:41] in case adept changes in the middle of the upgrade.. wouldn't that be a probleM? [04:41] nixternal: ~30 cm snow in places now [04:41] I didn't even think about the adept updates possibly breaking it [04:41] anyway, was going -> [04:41] so.. do adept ones first? last? [04:42] go for last, as it will be easier to cancel out the adept ones [04:42] kk [04:42] downloading [04:42] if you cancel out the main adept, it should cancel out the rest of the adepts in one click [04:42] thanks nixternal [04:42] groovy [04:42] no problem [04:42] where do you guys live that you're so excited about snow? [04:42] if it doesn't work, then I say scratch adept and just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get everything [04:42] ttl: you are good? [04:42] Chicago here! [04:43] ooo [04:43] i think so... it's downloading [04:43] listen to kingdaskreech [04:43] at least I got past the signal 6 bit :-D [04:43] thanks dasKreech [04:43] nixternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNK2L8-V5dQ [04:43] oh no, ScottK2 just showed me to great edits of Mary Poppins and Topgun [04:46] dasKreech: tell me why when I first seen the dude in that video, I thought of Jucato :p [04:46] god I love the true transparency in KDE 4 [04:46] I can watch the video behind my IRC [04:47] ooo [04:47] that's sweet :-D [04:47] You use irssi :-P [04:47] i can't wait to play w/ that :-) [04:47] of course [04:48] its funny, i decided to install linux again after ntfs-3g was "official" and now there are all these other great things [04:48] thanks Devs :-D [04:48] dasKreech: hahaha, have you watched his other videos? this dude is cool...Beautiful Girls is great [04:48] Yeah I know but the Jucato starting one was great [04:50] gahahah, omg watch the Akon "Lonely" one [04:53] Stop making me laugh! [04:55] the Avril one is great too [04:56] nixternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0LkE7V2xTk [04:56] O [04:56] m [04:56] G [04:56]