[00:00] <maxim000> yes, but i added it
[00:00] <flipstar> how did you installed it ?
[00:00] <dasKreech> ah then it will not turn up in katapult by default
[00:00] <maxim000> with add/remove
[00:00] <dasKreech> yes how did you install?
[00:00] <flipstar> hm
[00:00] <maxim000> strange
[00:01] <dasKreech> maxim000: Is Kontact in the start menu?
[00:01] <maxim000> no
[00:01] <tcm> maxim000: can you see kmail in Kontact?
[00:01] <disca> c'è qualcuno?
[00:01] <maxim000> kontact is not installed
[00:01] <flipstar> !it | disca
[00:01] <ubotu> disca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:01] <tcm> can you run kmail in a terminal?
[00:01] <maxim000> yes
[00:01] <BobSapp> is twinview availiable in kubuntu with the restricted driver?
[00:02] <flipstar> just try
[00:02] <flipstar> :)
[00:02] <dasKreech> maxim000: ok alt+space -> Ctrl+C -> configure katapult -> click ok -> alt+space -> kmail
[00:02] <maxim000> dasKreech, :D Thanks!
[00:03] <maxim000> it works
[00:03]  * dasKreech nods
[00:03] <flipstar> !info twinview | BobSapp
[00:03] <ubotu> bobsapp: Package twinview does not exist in gutsy
[00:03] <olivier> !fr | olivier
[00:03] <ek_> Dr_willis: Yeah. Found the problem. Have to disable msdfs_proxy.
[00:03] <ek_> Now, I just need to find that setting through KDE.
[00:03] <BobSapp> !Twinview
[00:03] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[00:04] <BobSapp> ty
[00:04] <flipstar> !thanks
[00:04] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:05] <flipstar> !botsnack
[00:05] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[00:07] <Angelus> Hi everyone
[00:07] <tim_> hi
[00:07] <tim_> i got a problem with bind
[00:07] <tim_> can any 1 help
[00:08] <flipstar> hi
[00:08] <tim_>  * Stopping domain name service... bind                                         rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[00:08] <Angelus> sorry, I cant, no experience with bind
[00:09] <brian__> My CD Burner's mount point is "/media/floppy0.. I don't even have a floppy.
[00:09] <Angelus> I added a repository and upgraded some packages in it ( wich also where avaliable in the official repo) how can I downgrade all packages from this unnoficial repo and revert all to the official ones?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  remove them  - remove the repo. apt-get update, upgrade, and reinstall them.
[00:10] <kalib> tim_, what's goin on with your localhost?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  would be how i think it would be done
[00:10] <tim_> kalib:  nothing?
[00:11] <kalib> r u sure?? but your localhost refused the connection to start bind
[00:11] <tim_> idk y
[00:11] <Angelus> Dr_willis: they are a lot of packages and I was hopping for an automated approach, but thanks anyway. I'll have to do that if there is no other choice
[00:11] <GuyFromHell> so any ideas on getting a screen session to open automatically on login?
[00:11] <tim_> apache is running
[00:11] <tim_> mysql is running
[00:11] <tim_> all i did was modify named.conf and add entries for the name servers..
[00:12] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  the packatge tools can show packages based on the repo they came from.  or at least synaptic can. Not sure about adept
[00:12] <shadowhywind> hay all having a strange issue, I am using openoffice in kubuntu gutsy, when i add a bullet, it gives me this ugly grey background, any ideas on how to remove it?
[00:12] <Angelus> Dr_willis: I didn't knew that, never used synaptic before, thanks!
[00:12] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: I just have  yakuake open my cli stuff on open
[00:12] <kalib> tim_, well...not sure..but...give a try..
[00:13] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: lets say its headless...
[00:13] <kalib> remove the lines you added in it... and try again...
[00:13] <tim_> kalib:  all im trying to do is restart bind...
[00:13] <kalib> if works fine... will be easy to know what's goin wrong
[00:13] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: on login ?
[00:13] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: yea?
[00:14] <dasKreech> assuming you are using bash?
[00:14] <tim_> kalib:  it has an error on stopping but it starts up again
[00:15] <Dr_willis> Angelus,  i dont see a similer feature in adept , synaptic can do it however.
[00:16] <kalib> tim if u just type the status... what happens??
[00:16] <batis610> I have a variable='xx2007'... first i want to test if it contains 'xx' then i want to exctract the year.... how
[00:16] <kalib> is it started or stoped?
[00:16] <sigma16> kalib:  what
[00:17] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: nvm i hacked something together, [[ $SHLVL == "1" ]] && screen -R logon
[00:17] <kalib> /etc/init.d/bind status
[00:17] <kalib> what's the response?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> batis610,  you may want to chedk out the 'advanced bash scripting guide'    its in the repos as an installable book/package. or on tldp.org
[00:17] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: bashrc ?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> !abs
[00:17] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: yea in bashrc
[00:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:17] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: Ok that's what I was going to suggest
[00:17] <sigma16> kalib: when i stop it then start it without using restart no errors
[00:17] <dasKreech> !info abs
[00:17] <ubotu> Package abs does not exist in gutsy
[00:17] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: i asked because i was getting something like an infinite loop since each screen ran screen again
[00:17] <Dr_willis> !find abs
[00:17] <ubotu> Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)
[00:18] <kalib> sigma16, oh..i got it
[00:18] <Dr_willis> I never can rember its name. :)
[00:18] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: ah right :) Qt isn't it?
[00:18] <Dr_willis> !find guide
[00:18] <ubotu> Found: gnome-user-guide, installation-guide-amd64, installation-guide-i386, installation-guide-ia64, installation-guide-powerpc (and 26 others)
[00:18] <winterelf_> hi, i got a problam with the repositories... i don't have any third party software download, it's an empty list.. so i can't find bitchx in it... i need to add it by myself and have no idea about the link...
[00:18] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: hum? screen?
[00:18] <winterelf_> someone have any idea what to add?
[00:18] <sigma16> kalib: we still get an error with the code im about to pm u
[00:18] <kalib> sigma16, so... it's working... that's ok... but... i don't know exactly why the restart command is not working.. :/
[00:18] <flipstar> winterelf sources.list is empty ??
[00:18] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: No the loop of attaching to itself
[00:19] <sigma16> kalib: as long as it works it doesnt matter for that... can u help me figure out why my entries rnt workin?
[00:19] <dasKreech> !easysource
[00:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:19] <winterelf_> flipstar: yes!
[00:19] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: you lost me, it's bash running screen over and over
[00:19] <dasKreech> !source-o-matic
[00:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[00:19] <kalib> well..i can try... paste it on a pvt
[00:19] <sigma16> kalib: i had pmed u it
[00:19] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: I know Qt is pronounced Cute
[00:19] <sigma16> !paste > sigma16
[00:19] <flipstar> winterelf_: the sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[00:19] <dasKreech> GuyFromHell: I'm just really lazy tonight
[00:20] <winterelf_> ho
[00:20] <winterelf_> w8
[00:20] <sigma16> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54163/
[00:20] <GuyFromHell> dasKreech: ah that's what you meant. i get it. :P
[00:20] <sigma16> kalib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54163/
[00:21] <sigma16> kalib: any ideas?
[00:21] <winterelf_> flipstar: no it contains a banch of stuff
[00:21] <flipstar> right
[00:22] <flipstar> then just edit it with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove that # from the universe source
[00:23] <kalib> sigma16, let me check...
[00:23] <jereme_> I'm trying to setup fglrx on kubuntu gutsy, but when I start X, I get a black screen
[00:24] <jereme_> my keyboard still seems to respond, but I'm essentially locked up
[00:24] <jereme_> anyone run into this?
[00:25] <winterelf_> ?
[00:25] <flipstar> success ?
[00:26] <sigma16> kalib: would the error be in the included files?
[00:27] <kalib> not sure... in your place i would try with just one... just for test...
[00:28] <Bayko> sup
[00:28] <jyoong> hello
[00:28] <Bayko> whats a good place to get program's for wine?
[00:28] <Bayko> or do u install packages?
[00:28] <flipstar> i just ported them from win
[00:29] <Bayko> ?
[00:29] <flipstar> windows
[00:29] <bandid> anyone from italy?
[00:29] <sigma16> kalib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54164/
[00:29] <jereme_> a lot of people are from italy
[00:30] <bandid> and you are italian?
[00:31] <olivier> italians stole the last world cup
[00:31] <jamesJ> Hello again. Still working on the sound problem. So I have a quesiton when I type `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel` and then press "tab" then "enter" it just takes me back too a command line. Shouldn't it show a list of modules?
[00:32] <jyoong> i have just installed kubuntu and am trying to access the other drive i partitioned, but i get the error "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[00:32] <jyoong> could someone help?
[00:32] <flipstar> jyoong: you have to set permission for your user on that drive
[00:32] <sigma16> kalib:  ??????????
[00:33] <kalib> sigma16, sorry.... i did answer on your pvt
[00:33] <sigma16> kalib: ?
[00:33] <bandid> the meaning of "stole"?
[00:33] <sigma16> kalib: i didnt recieve
[00:33] <jyoong> how do i do that?
[00:34] <flipstar> take away bandid
[00:34] <Dr_willis> If its a ntfs drive. You may need to make  a proper fstab entry with the right options for allowing user access to it.
[00:34] <flipstar> just right click ->settings ->permissions on that directory jyoong
[00:34] <kalib> sigma16, well...
[00:35] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that just setting permissions on a mounted ntfs fileysystem will work.
[00:35] <kalib> sigma16, i saw your codes.... but for me it's okay..i couldn't find any error... :/  i'm so sorry..but i'm not a bind expert... just beginner.. :/
[00:36] <dasKreech> Bayko: www.download.com
[00:36] <flipstar> jamesJ: no when this particular driver is the only option not
[00:36] <dasKreech> !it | bandid
[00:36] <ubotu> bandid: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:36] <jamesJ> OK. Then I'll move to the next step. Thanks.
[00:36] <bandid> i've translated te term before, and i really agree whith you
[00:37] <vsd> Salut
[00:37] <Dr_willis> I just had a drive with        the  ' "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" Under konqueror.. I then installed/ran the 'ntfs-config' tool and checked Yes. in its options. Now my user can access it. :)
[00:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config && sudo ntfs-config
[00:37] <sigma16>  can some 1 else help me with bind
[00:37] <flipstar> drives shouldn be mounted by root anyway..
[00:38] <sigma16> also how do u install the linux sound stuff. i dont have it...
[00:38] <flipstar> sigma16: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[00:38] <sigma16> flipstar: ive done that a dozen times
[00:39] <flipstar> than it might be your certain hardware
[00:39] <sigma16> its audigy2
[00:39] <bandid> come si fa ad andare su k.it
[00:39] <kalib> bandid, o.O ?
[00:40] <sigma16> flipstar:  i didnt get errors on that list at all
[00:40] <flipstar> bandit please join #ubuntu-it or #kubuntu-it since this is an english channel
[00:40] <sigma16> flipstar: alsamixer doesnt work
[00:40] <sigma16> flipstar: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[00:41] <sigma16> flipstar: it wont change the default device from my disabled soundcard..
[00:41] <jamesJ> OK another question. This time about alsamixer. In the directions I am reading it says "It is more like ten different volume controls in the sample place." But I only have 5 items listed. This sound right?
[00:42] <flipstar> jamesJ: maybe there only 5 visible
[00:42] <jamesJ> k
[00:43] <flipstar> is it a good idea to run tune2fs on a mounted file system ?
[00:43] <flipstar> i think i dont have other options ..
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Ive ran tune2fs on mounted fs's befor.
[00:44] <Dr_willis> may depend on what you are changing.
[00:45] <flipstar> nothing bad happend ?
[00:45] <flipstar> -m reserved-blocks-percentage
[00:45] <sigma16> flipstar:  ???
[00:45] <Dr_willis> ive changed that befor while mounted.
[00:45] <flipstar> the root locked file size stuff
[00:45] <sigma16> flipstar:  alsa mixer isnt workin
[00:45] <Dr_willis> the actual change may not take effect however untill you remount the filesystem.
[00:45] <flipstar> great
[00:45] <flipstar> i'll try
[00:45] <Dr_willis> or perhaps reboot.
[00:46] <flipstar> its an truecrypt partition ..
[00:46] <Dr_willis> ive seen it report different #s after changing the reserved. :) but my disks were not full - so not sure  how soon that affect changes
[00:46] <sigma16> sigh
[00:47] <sigma16> can some 1 help me... bind or sound... ur pick../
[00:47] <flipstar> i have to run tune2fs as sudo .. ?
[00:47] <Dr_willis> of course. :)
[00:47] <mneptok> what? you want noises payed with each successful nslookup?
[00:47] <Dr_willis> you dont want users doing that sort of thing.
[00:47] <ahmos> hi flipstar ,I keep failling to mount the ntfs partitions.. now I get this ..Failed to access '/dev/disk/by-label/MAXTOR': No such file or directory
[00:47] <mneptok> *played
[00:48] <flipstar> hm still the same error:tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block
[00:48] <jyoong> thanks flipstar
[00:49] <flipstar> ahmos: just post the whole fstab
[00:49] <ahmos> ok
[00:49] <flipstar> !pastebin | ahmos
[00:49] <ubotu> ahmos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:49] <Dr_willis> Ive only used tune2fs on ext2/ext3 filesystems. Not sure how truecrypt affects that.
[00:50] <flipstar> i just typed the /dev/xxx
[00:50] <flipstar> not the mount point or anything..
[00:50] <sigma16> please
[00:50] <jamesJ> Well, still no sound. Heck I did a re-install and started over and still can't get the volume up enough to "hear" it.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> flipstar,  what filesystem is the device using? You did use the proper /dev/ entry?
[00:50] <sigma16> some 1 :'(
[00:50] <flipstar> maybe i should try /dev/mapper/truecrypt0
[00:51] <flipstar> yes
[00:51] <flipstar> ext3
[00:51] <flipstar> will try that
[00:51] <sigma16> !bind > sigma16
[00:51] <sigma16> sigh
[00:51] <sigma16> not even the damned bot knows anything about it..
[00:51] <Dr_willis> i dont really use bind. :) and as for sound - Theres some guides.. often you have to update your alsa drivers for newer machines
[00:51] <sigma16> :'(
[00:51] <flipstar> it worked :D
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Theres whole books written on bind.
[00:52] <sigma16> Dr_willis: my kubuntu is 3 days old nothing is out of date... my sound stoped working i think when i got gutsy
[00:52] <flipstar> hm how big is one block by default on ext3 ?
[00:52] <jereme_> are you getting errors or is there just no sound?
[00:52] <flipstar> it prints it still uses 1151097 blocks
[00:53] <sigma16> jereme_: no errors or anything... everything is setup only problem i have seen at all is alsa mixer wont work
[00:53] <sigma16> jereme_: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[00:53] <jereme_> ah
[00:53] <sigma16> jereme_: i think its using my disabled onboard soundcard as default
[00:53] <jereme_> weird... I was going to suggest opening alsa mixer and turning up and unmuting the outbound channels...  I've had that problem with ubuntu countless times
[00:53] <jereme_> but if you can't use the mixer
[00:53] <jereme_> that's probably not it
[00:54] <jereme_> fglrx is kicking my arse
[00:54] <sigma16> jereme_: w/b making the default device change and stay changed..?
[00:54] <flipstar> ati isnt a good choise anyway ..
[00:54] <ahmos> flipstar:I've posted it
[00:54] <sigma16> jereme_: soundcard is audigy2 i got all drivers and updated crap,,
[00:54] <jereme_> flipstar: I didn't have a choice... I needed dual-dvi for my workstation and this is what I got
[00:54] <flipstar> great then paste the link here ahmos
[00:55] <jereme_> sigma16: I'm not really sure
[00:55] <sigma16> jereme_:  sudo asoundconf set-default-card doesnt work
[00:55] <ahmos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54165/
[00:55] <flipstar> thats all jereme_ ?
[00:56] <sigma16> flip any ideas
[00:56] <jereme_> flipstar: that's all what?
[00:56] <sigma16> jereme_: ???
[00:56] <thomas__> so where would i go if I'm a total noob and I can't get my sound to work?
[00:56] <thomas__> and why is there a _ at the end of my name?
[00:56] <sigma16> thomas__: mine dont work either...
[00:56] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[00:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:56] <jereme_> sigma16: dude, I don't know... I only had one suggestion
[00:56] <flipstar> that you need 2 monitors ?
[00:57] <flipstar> !DualHead
[00:57] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:57] <sigma16> Dr_willis: ive been fiddling with sound for 3 days to no avail....
[00:57] <jereme_> flipstar: yeah, I already had two monitors, but I needed to switch to dvi for clarity
[00:57] <jereme_> flipstar: my issues start way before xinerama comes into the picture
[00:57] <Dr_willis> sigma16,  no idea. I alwyas disalbe the onboard in the bios befor i install. - Thers some tools that select the default sound cards. but ive never used them
[00:57] <jereme_> I can't start X single head on this card
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Using 2 monitors right now. :) on my nvidia card
[00:58] <sigma16> Dr_willis: i believe it worked before i got gutsy...
[00:58] <thomas__> ok how do i change my IRC nickname? cause its thomas with a _ at the end and I don't know why
[00:59] <flipstar> just type /nick <nickname> thomas__
[00:59] <flipstar> try this ahmos http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54166/
[00:59] <BluesKaj> thomas__, cuz there's another thomas who's nick is registered
[00:59] <ahmos> ok
[00:59] <oliv78> hi
[00:59] <Dr_willis> sigma16,  my audigy2zs has worked fine for me since way way back in breezy :) i belive
[00:59] <flipstar> but is still recommend to use ntfs-3g instead of ntfs ahmos
[01:00] <oliv78> do u know some piece of software like amarok but for movies and tv shows
[01:00] <oliv78> a software to organize your divX collection
[01:00] <flipstar> oliv78: try vlc you'll love it :)
[01:00] <oliv78> i know vlc
[01:00] <flipstar> hm it cant organize
[01:00] <Dr_willis> oliv78,  miro  can do that - but its not in the repos.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> !miro
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <oliv78> thats not what im looking for
[01:00] <Dr_willis> or is it
[01:00] <oliv78> ok
[01:01] <Dr_willis> !find miro
[01:01] <ubotu> Found: miro, miro-data
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Guess it IS in the repos. :P
[01:01] <flipstar> !info miro
[01:01] <oliv78> ok ill give it a try thanks
[01:01] <ubotu> miro (source: miro): GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 555 kB, installed size 3012 kB
[01:01] <tzanger> hmm, which package are the amarok codecs in?
[01:01] <tzanger> I can't play any shoutcast music
[01:01] <oliv78> !magnatune
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about magnatune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <oliv78> !amarok
[01:01] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[01:01] <Tm_T> oh boy
[01:02] <Tm_T> that amarok factoid is outdated
[01:02] <BluesKaj> tzanger, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:02] <dasKreech> Tm_T: update it
[01:02] <tzanger> ahh libxine, thank you
[01:02] <Tm_T> dasKreech: I should
[01:02] <dasKreech> Tm_T: Then do it then
[01:03] <ahmos> flipstar:youy are my herooooooo thank you very much ;)
[01:03] <flipstar> it says <ubotu> Error: You don't have the admin capability.
[01:03] <oliv78> i do have amarok 1.4.7 though
[01:03] <flipstar> np ahmos
[01:03] <ahmos> tahnk u
[01:03] <ahmos> Thank u
[01:04] <flipstar> but you only can read with that driver i think
[01:04] <flipstar> if you want to wirte i recommend ntf-3g
[01:04] <flipstar> *ntfs-3g
[01:04] <flipstar> *write
[01:04] <sigma16> Dr_willis: sigh
[01:05] <flipstar> sigma16: you just upgraded from brezzy to gutsy ??
[01:05] <sigma16> flipstar: feisty to gutsy
[01:05] <ahmos> I can write but I will try the ntfs-3g
[01:05] <jippobot2> Sono jippobot2, scusate il test :P
[01:05] <oliv78> it says miro is a rss aggregator...
[01:06] <flipstar> wow didnt knew the nfts dev guys already enabled it by default
[01:06] <sigma16> flipstar: any ideas?
[01:07] <jippobot2> Sono jippobot2, scusate il test :P
[01:07] <ahmos> :0
[01:07] <Mexflubber> Hi all ... I'm having a problem ... I want to install atheros wireless network but I can't =S ... I just don't have internet
[01:07] <sigma16> flipstar: alsamixer works now how do i save setting
[01:09] <flipstar> thats a tricky situation Mexflubber .. other drivers doesnt work ?
[01:09] <Mexflubber> flipstar: I don't know .. I want to have wireless because also my video card isn't recognized
[01:10] <flipstar> sigma16: i guess they will be saved as soon as you change them
[01:10] <sigma16> flipstar: ok none of the bars were down all my settings check out no errors or missing drivers yet no sound..
[01:12] <flipstar> Mexflubber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[01:12] <flipstar> this might help
[01:12] <sigma16> !sound > sigma16
[01:12] <[Linuxzado]> anyone speak portuguese?
[01:12] <flipstar> yes
[01:12] <flipstar> !pt
[01:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:13] <oliv78> tudo bem
[01:13] <[Linuxzado]> thank's.
[01:13] <flipstar> np
[01:13] <[Linuxzado]> oliv78: td certim.
[01:13] <flipstar> !en
[01:13] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:14] <oliv78> im french
[01:14] <[Linuxzado]> i need help to conf my soundcard.
[01:14] <flipstar> !fr
[01:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:14] <oliv78> i was just being friendly
[01:14] <flipstar> try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 [Linuxzado]
[01:14] <Mexflubber> flipstar: Tx !
[01:14] <flipstar> np
[01:14] <oliv78> do you know where i could find a list of cool or must-have softwares for kubuntu
[01:15] <flipstar> compiz is really cool
[01:15] <oliv78> yeah
[01:15] <oliv78> im using it right now :)
[01:15] <oliv78> makes my computer crash sometimes though
[01:16] <oliv78> do you know how to resolve this issue
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: kdissert is a great mindmapping software.
[01:16] <oliv78> whenever i launch compiz
[01:16] <flipstar> uhm
[01:16] <oliv78> i get this
[01:16] <[Linuxzado]> i'm have the ubuntu 7.10 installed, but the sound aren't functionally.
[01:16] <oliv78> adept notifier
[01:16] <oliv78> icon
[01:16] <oliv78> in a window
[01:16] <oliv78> instead of in the tray
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: I get that, too
[01:16] <flipstar> yes same here
[01:16] <oliv78> what is kdissert
[01:16] <oliv78> you cant resolve that?
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: kdissert is a great study tool.
[01:17] <flipstar> !info kdissert
[01:17] <ubotu> kdissert (source: kdissert): mindmapping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6.c-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 895 kB, installed size 2668 kB
[01:17] <flipstar> hm
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: Another great note taking tool is basket
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: Hardy will prabaly fix the compiz problem
[01:19] <oliv78> hardy?
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> !hardy
[01:19] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:19] <oliv78> sweet
[01:19] <sigma16> any 1 help me with sound
[01:20] <oliv78> compiz is really good to show off
[01:20] <oliv78> at college
[01:21] <Odd-rationale> Here's some more eyecandy. kirocker is not in the repo, though. http://getdeb.net/app/Kirocker
[01:21] <oliv78> k thanks
[01:21] <oliv78> what does it do
[01:22] <flipstar> its like kicker
[01:22] <flipstar> see the screenshot
[01:22] <flipstar> gkrellm is also nice
[01:23] <oliv78> oh kdissert seems nice
[01:23] <flipstar> it gives you information about you pc status
[01:23] <oliv78> u can create beamer presentation
[01:23] <Odd-rationale> i didn't really like gkrellm...
[01:23] <Odd-rationale> I would prefer conky
[01:23] <flipstar> there are about 200 themes for gkrellm ..
[01:23] <flipstar> and many many plugins ..
[01:24] <sigma16> sigh
[01:24] <sigma16> sound help?
[01:24] <sigma16> sound is up all drivers up to date and everything
[01:24] <sigma16> no sound comes out of the speakers
[01:24] <flipstar> i'll try conky ..
[01:24] <Tm_T> conky <3
[01:25] <flipstar> hm okay..but thats no app you have running all the time do you ?
[01:25] <oliv78> how do u uninstall packages that are not in the repository
[01:26] <flipstar> from where did you installed ?
[01:26] <oliv78> u have to keep every deb package?
[01:26] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: no. you don;t need to keep the .deb
[01:26] <BluesKaj> sigma16, check alsamixer in the terminal
[01:26] <oliv78> ok
[01:26] <flipstar> no deb packages are shown in adept
[01:26] <oliv78> ok sweet
[01:26] <flipstar> you can remove them there
[01:26] <Odd-rationale> oliv78: you just sudo aptitude uninstall <<package_name>>
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> or you can use adpet
[01:27] <flipstar> right
[01:28] <flipstar> i like gkrellm more..it also shows hdd aktivity due a nice monitor and the gpu temp the weather etc
[01:28] <Tm_T> flipstar: so does conky have graphs
[01:28] <Tm_T> but they are different apps and different usages at most of the cases
[01:29] <Dr_willis> conly can do graphs for some things
[01:29] <Dr_willis> conky :) i mean
[01:29] <flipstar> right how can i configure conky ?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> edit the .conkyrc
[01:29] <Tm_T> flipstar: it's all conkyrc file, plaintxt
[01:29] <sigma16> BluesKaj: my sound has no problems... it isnt off... all drivers up to date... sound troubleshooting didnt help....
[01:29] <flipstar> oh no gui ?
[01:29] <Tm_T> flipstar: ofcourse not
[01:29] <Dr_willis> flipstar,  Nope.
[01:29] <ek_> Dr_willis: You would happen to know why I can mount Samba shares, would you?
[01:29] <ek_> Is 'smbfs' still supported?
[01:29] <flipstar> hmn why do i hae a graphical os for ? :P
[01:29] <BluesKaj> sigma16, what sound trouble shooting have you done ?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> You mean why you CANT ? :)
[01:30] <ek_> Dr_willis: Ah yes. Of course. :P
[01:30] <sigma16> BluesKaj: all of them...
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ive been using the fusesmb stuff to browse my samba networks lately.
[01:30] <MaskedOne> So I have KWeather on my kicker and my kicker is transparent but KWeather is solid colored still. Any ideas how to change that?
[01:30] <sigma16> BluesKaj: all the ones people in here have directed me too....
[01:30] <BluesKaj> sigma16, that doesn't tell me anything :(
[01:30] <Tm_T> flipstar: heh, different things, son, conky is good in this way, you'll get it when you find all of its abilities
[01:30] <ek_> Dr_willis: Will that allow users to use applications such as XMMS to play media over the remote shares?
[01:30] <sigma16> !sound > sigma16
[01:30] <sigma16> !sound > BluesKaj
[01:31] <sigma16> those
[01:31] <sigma16> i did the ones the bot directs me too..
[01:31] <BluesKaj> sigma16, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply
[01:32] <sigma16> BluesKaj: tried that...
[01:32] <BluesKaj> open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 (if IEC958 is listed) are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply.
[01:32] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[01:32] <Dr_willis> ek_,  correct    == https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[01:33] <ek_> Dr_willis: Thank you very much.
[01:33] <sigma16> BluesKaj:  what about pc speaker on input
[01:33] <Dr_willis> ek_,  feel free to correct any issues in the wiki. :) since i wrote it.
[01:33] <ek_> Dr_willis: Will do. I'll play with it right now. Thanks again.
[01:33] <BluesKaj> you can if you want but that's just the lil spkr in the pc box
[01:34] <flipstar> Odd-rationale: wow the first screeny looks nearly like my gkrellm :)
[01:34] <sigma16> BluesKaj: input is were the sound comes out o.0?
[01:35] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: but gkrellm uses gtk+...
[01:35] <flipstar> k agreed it is more configureable than gkrellm ..
[01:36] <BluesKaj> sigma16, input is where the sound trvels to kmix from what ever source , like cd , line in etc
[01:36] <flipstar> what the frell im on Page 1 of 170
[01:36] <sigma16> BluesKaj: so the sound from them shouldnt be on zero?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> no
[01:37] <BluesKaj> the controls should be set at about 71% or so
[01:38] <sigma16> BluesKaj: well that didnt fix it.... is some other program blocking the sound car?
[01:38] <BluesKaj> sigma16, make sure the green lights above the ctrls are on
[01:38] <sigma16> BluesKaj: i dont have green lights
[01:39] <flipstar> hm silly question..i already searched but..where is the conkyrc file ?
[01:39] <sigma16> BluesKaj: but in alsamixer they rnt muted.... kmix isnt muted... the lights r red...
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> ~/.conky
[01:39] <sigma16> BluesKaj: err... that was on input but i have no lights or master bar on output...
[01:39] <BluesKaj> kmix should have lifghts above the controls
[01:40] <flipstar> file doesnt exits..i'll create ..
[01:40] <ek_> Dr_willis: Hrm. Seems even though I'm in the 'fuse' group and /dev/fuse has rw-rw---- permissions, I still get a 'permission denied' error.
[01:40] <ek_> Dr_willis: And, of course, sudo'ing fusesmb won't allow access to the fusesmb'd directory...
[01:40] <epimeth> how do I check what kernel I'm using?
[01:41] <sigma16> BluesKaj: pm out should be pre or post?
[01:42] <epimeth> and how do I check which wireless driver I'm using/
[01:42] <Dr_willis> ek_,  You need to logoiut for the group change to take effect.
[01:42] <oliv78> uname -r
[01:42] <Dr_willis> I thought i mentioned that in the wiki. :)
[01:42] <oliv78> epimeth : uname -r
[01:42] <sigma16> OMG
[01:42] <Dr_willis> In most cases you will need to log out and log in again for the changes to take effect. The users group settings are only read at login. As an alternative you could ssh in or perhaps login with a different login shell. But its proberly easiest to just logout and back in.
[01:42] <sigma16> OMFG
[01:42] <sigma16> WTF
[01:42] <sigma16> WOW...........
[01:42] <epimeth> oliv78: cheers
[01:42] <sigma16> THATS GEY..
[01:42] <sigma16> BluesKaj: for some reason the jack for sound is different in linux...
[01:42] <sigma16> BluesKaj: i plugged it into a different jack on the card and it worked o.0
[01:43] <Mexflubber> flipstar: I can't ... Still having the same problem.
[01:43] <epimeth> sigma16: thats just cuz the drivers aren't exactly right
[01:43] <sigma16> epimeth: idc it works...
[01:43] <sigma16> epimeth: im just happy...
[01:43] <epimeth> sigma16: tho, ironically, I've had the wrong jack in windows and the right one in linux
[01:43] <flipstar> Mexflubber: what was it again .. ?
[01:43] <epimeth> sigma16: I was, too :-)
[01:43] <sigma16> BluesKaj: ur my favorite help person even if i was the one to figure it out :)
[01:43] <ek_> Dr_willis: Ah yes. This is true. DUH.
[01:44] <Mexflubber> Wireless network ... can't bring it up ... Atheros
[01:44] <sigma16> epimeth: i dont get that? its pluged into a....black
[01:44] <jereme_> my heart is full of rage toward ATI at the moment
[01:44] <epimeth> BluesKaj: what up, amigo? been a while :-)
[01:44] <flipstar> Odd-rationale: i just created ~/.conky and created conkyrc but still nothing..
[01:44] <ek_> Welp. Be back then.
[01:44] <BluesKaj> wrong output connector sigma16 , no wonder you had no sounds :P
[01:44] <flipstar> Mexflubber: the website didnt helped ?
[01:44] <boggystudios>  I am having trouble logging in.  When ever I type in my password the screen goes blank and then brings up the login screen again.
[01:44] <sigma16> BluesKaj: it was in a green jack the same color of the cord... the one that worked in windoews..
[01:45] <epimeth> sigma16: yea... I had black in windows... green would output static.  then again, the whole card was pretty fubar anyway... I'd get mad interference from the network card
[01:45] <sigma16> BluesKaj:  it stoped workin when i went from feisty to gutsy
[01:45] <flipstar> boggystudios: try reinstall the nvidia drivers
[01:45] <Mexflubber> I didnot understand a lot !
[01:45] <flipstar> oh
[01:45] <Mexflubber> @ flipstar
[01:45] <boggystudios> flipstar: no nvidia on this machine
[01:45] <flipstar> oh
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: sorry, it is ~/.conkyrc
[01:46] <flipstar> prop usually comes with nvidia due glx error
[01:46] <sigma16> epimeth: i wish some 1 wouldve suggested changin the damned plug in spot once over 3 days..
[01:46] <sigma16> epimeth: i was lookin at the switches tab and i noticed the one next to the one its plugged in was an audigy output jack...
[01:46] <epimeth> sigma16: sorry I wasn't here :-)
[01:46] <flipstar> uhm now i get an Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:47] <epimeth> so anyone know how to check which driver my wireless card is using?
[01:47] <sigma16> epimeth: thus i got the idea of moving it over a plug...
[01:47] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: for more info #conky
[01:47] <ek_> Dr_willis: Works a treat. Thanks!
[01:47] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:48] <BluesKaj> sigma16, do you have a separate soundcard ? then you should disable the one that is giving you the trouble in BIOS Peripherals
[01:48] <sigma16> BluesKaj:  the onboard is disabled...
[01:48] <sigma16> BluesKaj: my sound works now..
[01:48] <Dr_willis> ek_,  fuse has a lot of other neat tools/filesystems/features also.
[01:49] <ek_> Dr_willis: Yeah. I'm looking at this stuff now.
[01:49] <flipstar> Mexflubber: there is mentioned how you can install without internet ..
[01:49] <ek_> Great name-drop though.
[01:49] <BluesKaj> sigma16, reboot and see if it still works
[01:49] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why intel wireless 3945 doesn't get detected after resuming from suspend?  i'm using iwl3945 module
[01:49] <Dr_willis> ek_,  watch out for services that index/scan your whole home. :) they will now scan the whole samba network.
[01:50] <ek_> Dr_willis: Okay. :P
[01:50] <epimeth> fulat2k: how do you know what module you are using?  I'm trying to find mine out
[01:51] <sigma16> BluesKaj: why risk it?
[01:51] <fulat2k> epimeth: lsmod | grep 3945
[01:51] <fulat2k> epimeth: i specifically blacklisted ipw3945 as it has issues.
[01:51] <BluesKaj> do you leave the pc on art all times, sigma16 ?
[01:51] <sigma16> BluesKaj: yes...
[01:52] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:53] <epimeth> hmmm.... I thought that the new kernel used the b43 driver instead of bcm43xx?
[01:53] <sigma16> i think ill takle my bind problems tomorrow
[01:53] <epimeth> maybe thats why my wireless was working in sabayon...
[01:54] <Mexflubber> flipstar: wher ?
[01:55] <flipstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu#head-ed0dcaf994beba6988010c63e16b5e0a25129979
[01:55] <epimeth> if I compile my own kernel, will kernel updates override it?
[01:56] <darkalien> hi i have a problem with my compiz its going with glx but my windows arent there
[01:56] <flipstar> you can mark it to hold epimeth
[01:57] <darkalien> ?
[01:57] <epimeth> flipstar: right... forgot that
[01:57] <epimeth> flipstar: but even if it does, I can always use the old one in the grub list, right?
[01:58] <flipstar> right
[01:58] <flipstar> as long as the modified kernel is present you can
[02:00] <flipstar> darkalien: youre windows aint there or no windows decoration ?
[02:00] <darkalien> no window decoration
[02:00] <flipstar> aight you need an windows decorator
[02:01] <flipstar> im using emerald
[02:01] <epimeth> do I need to restart if I installed bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[02:01] <darkalien>  glx is ready compiz work but my window decoration is not there
[02:01] <tekteen> epimeth: try it
[02:01] <epimeth> bbs folks
[02:01] <flipstar> you probably dont
[02:02] <epimeth> might as well :-)
[02:02] <batis610> wich is the best player to read movies with subtitles (not embeded...srt), i used mplayer and he didn't read all subs
[02:02] <flipstar> just try
[02:02] <flipstar> :)
[02:02] <flipstar> i prefer vlc batis610
[02:02] <flipstar> darkalien: just install emerald
[02:02] <darkalien> i have it
[02:02] <flipstar> than start it with compiz
[02:03] <flipstar> like compiz --replace &&emerald --replace
[02:03] <Mexflubber> flipstar: I did the sudo aptitude install ----- but knetworkmanager doesn't open when I click on it =S
[02:03] <oliv78> fusion-icon is neat too
[02:04] <NickPresta> oliv78, indeed ;)
[02:04] <epimeth> wait! it worked! YES
[02:04] <sigma16> BluesKaj: night
[02:04] <epimeth> lets try it out... disconnecting eth0 cable!
[02:04] <batis610> flipstar: vlc reads 1/3 of subs
[02:04] <flipstar> cable modem hacking is illegal ;)
[02:04] <sigma16> epimeth: night
[02:05] <flipstar> Mexflubber: knetworkmanager isnt working anymore ?
[02:05] <Mexflubber> flipstar: I cannot open it. BTW when I do iwconfig nothing is shown
[02:06] <Odd-rationale> Mexflubber: try ifconfig
[02:08] <epimeth> yay!  fwcutter was all I needed ^.^
[02:08] <tekteen> kool
[02:08] <Mexflubber> Odd-rationale: in ifconfig I only can see my Ethernet controller ... not my wireless I want to have my wireless on
[02:08] <epimeth> And I was getting ready to compile the wireless kernel :-)
[02:09] <epimeth> Mexflubber: does lspci show your card?
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> Mexflubber: So you are having problems with knetworkmanager to switch/select wireless network?
[02:09] <epimeth> Odd-rationale: his driver isn't installed, I think
[02:11] <Mexflubber> epimeth: yes lspci shows my card but I cant bring it up
[02:11] <Mexflubber> Odd-rationale: When I click on knetworkmanager it doesn't open
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> Mexflubber: How about right-click
[02:12] <g2g591> wew! i just recovered from some gentoo /lib files slipping into my /lib (long story)
[02:12] <g2g591> i broke things pretty well, sudo among other things stopped working
[02:12] <Mexflubber> Odd-rationale: When I do right-click I can see the normal options.
[02:13] <Odd-rationale> Mexflubber: Can you select wireless networks there?
[02:13] <epimeth> Mexflubber: so you have to install the driver
[02:13] <epimeth> Mexflubber: what card is it?
[02:13] <Mexflubber> epimeth  - Odd-rationale: I have knetworkmanager opened now. How may turn on my network card? I think it hasn't it installed or something.
[02:14] <Mexflubber> epimeth: Atheros  AR5006EG
[02:14] <epimeth> Mexflubber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/AR5006EG?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[02:17] <epimeth> installing kde4 ^.^
[02:17]  * epimeth is ^
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> epimeth: I would wait...
[02:19] <epimeth> Odd-rationale: why?
[02:19] <flipstar> isnt stable yet ..
[02:19] <epimeth> duh....
[02:20] <flipstar> and in a week or sow a new version will be released
[02:20] <epimeth> :-)
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> epimeth: I tried 4.0. It isn't quite stable yet. 4.1 should be the release to get.
[02:20] <epimeth> just want to check it out...
[02:20] <flipstar> 4.0.1 comes out on 6st february
[02:20] <flipstar> than just do it ;)
[02:21] <flipstar> guess you already has this.. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[02:21] <epimeth> too late! muahahaha
[02:21] <epimeth> flipstar: yes, thank you
[02:22] <flipstar> most of the kde4 apps still running great on kde3 for me :)
[02:24] <jereme_> where does the radeonhd driver install to for xorg
[02:24] <jereme_> its not sitting with the rest of the drivers
[02:26] <jereme_> actually when you install it right, it is
[02:26] <jereme_> doh
[02:29] <epimeth> how do I tell /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde to run in :1
[02:29] <epimeth> ?
[02:29] <flipstar> in :1 ..?
[02:29] <epimeth> yea
[02:29] <flipstar> what you mean ?
[02:29] <epimeth> using xephyr
[02:29] <flipstar> oh
[02:30] <dasKreech> !xephyr
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <dasKreech> Dang
[02:30] <flipstar> wait what is xephyr ?
[02:30] <epimeth> xserver-xephyr
[02:31] <epimeth> its an xserver window running in x
[02:31] <flipstar> yes..okay
[02:31] <flipstar> but still dont know what you mean with :1 ...
[02:31] <epimeth> I set xephyr to :1 instead of :0
[02:31] <epimeth> the display
[02:31] <epimeth> that it runs in
[02:31] <epimeth> :-)
[02:32] <dasKreech> Like Xnest ?
[02:33] <Mexflubber> epitmeth: after I've downloaded madwifi what should I do know?
[02:36] <epimeth> Mexflubber: just follow the howto I sent you
[02:36] <epimeth> Mexflubber: there's a link
[02:36] <epimeth> Mexflubber: want me to walk through it with you?
[02:36] <epimeth> dasKreech: never heard of it
[02:37] <flipstar> !info xnest
[02:37] <ubotu> xnest (source: xorg-server): Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 (gutsy), package size 1374 kB, installed size 3536 kB
[02:37] <batis610> how to change subtitles size in mplayer... in full screen they're too big
[02:37] <barbara> after running wine programs wineserver winewrapper and spoolsv keep running and hog system resources... this did not happen prior to installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu to my knowledge. can someone give me a hand?
[02:37] <epimeth> dasKreech: yes, actually, just read that it's an xnest replacement
[02:38] <Mexflubber> epimeth: I did go to that page then I went to the link then I'm kind of lost ... I installed kubuntu 7.10 and can't find a lot of info =S
[02:38] <dasKreech> epimeth: Xyepher has been getting the buzz recently so I guess it's better
[02:38] <epimeth> dasKreech: yea, I figured as much
[02:38] <dasKreech> My friend made pretty heavy use of Xnest I'll ask for reviews of both
[02:39] <epimeth> does anyone know if vmware can load windows from an existing install on its own partition?
[02:39] <epimeth> how do I set Firefox to be my default web browser?
[02:40] <flipstar> in firefox itself for example
[02:40] <flipstar> there also is an default application somewhere in kmenu
[02:41] <epimeth> Mexflubber: what have you done so far?
[02:41] <flipstar> install
[02:41] <flipstar> ups
[02:41] <Mexflubber> epimeth: I downloaded the .deb package and installed it
[02:41] <rdiazr__> hi
[02:41] <epimeth> Mexflubber: which .deb package?  why didn't you apt-get install madwifi-tools
[02:41] <epimeth> ?
[02:42] <rdiazr__> oui
[02:42] <epimeth> !fr | rdiazr
[02:42] <ubotu> rdiazr: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:42] <rdiazr__> oui
[02:42] <rdiazr__> yeah
[02:43] <rdiazr__> si
[02:43] <rdiazr__> somebody there?
[02:43] <epimeth> yea
[02:43] <dasKreech> Yes
[02:43] <rdiazr__> how ya ?
[02:43] <Mexflubber> epimeth: Sry I'm a gentoo user ... well I was ... didn't know that could be possible =P
[02:44] <rdiazr__> why ubuntu
[02:44] <rdiazr__> i love debian
[02:44] <rdiazr__> just debian
[02:44] <rdiazr__> r u agree ?
[02:44] <Mexflubber> epimeth: beside I don't have internet
[02:45] <epimeth> Mexflubber: oh... I won't stop trying to help you, but what are you doing here if you are a gentoo user???
[02:45] <dasKreech> !offtopic | rdiazr__
[02:45] <ubotu> rdiazr__: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:45] <flipstar> epimeth: im not sure but you might can change the screen thing in $HOME/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[02:45] <Mexflubber> epimeth: Helping my friend to install kubuntu
[02:45] <epimeth> Mexflubber: right
[02:46] <jereme_> hrm
[02:46] <epimeth> Mexflubber: so which package did you install?
[02:46] <jereme_> is it possible to flash a bios from linux?
[02:46] <jereme_> mobo?
[02:46] <Mexflubber> epimeth: madwifitools-0.9.2.****.deb
[02:46] <flipstar> you better do this from a disc or cdrom jereme_
[02:47] <jereme_> boo
[02:48] <rdiazr__> can to hack with ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:49] <Mexflubber> epimeth: What should I do now?
[02:50] <epimeth> Mexflubber: scroll to the botttom of the madwifi page
[02:50] <epimeth> you see the section that starts with "Building madwifi-ng"?
[02:51] <Mexflubber> epimeth: yes .. should I follow it ?
[02:51] <flipstar> right..its a guide..
[02:52] <epimeth> Mexflubber: yup
[02:52] <Mexflubber> but it says it's for ubuntu 5.10
[02:52] <epimeth> Mexflubber: It seems that way, but I don't think so
[02:53] <flipstar> epimeth: did that screen thing worked ?
[02:54] <epimeth> Mexflubber: actually...
[02:55] <epimeth> Mexflubber: did you get linux-restrictetd-modules-$(uname -r) ?
[02:56] <Mexflubber> epimeth: where should I type that or what? sry
[02:57] <epimeth> what is the output of ename -r ?
[02:57] <epimeth> erm
[02:57] <epimeth> uname -r
[02:57] <epimeth> Mexflubber: ^
[02:57] <epimeth> should be 2.6.22-generic
[02:57] <epimeth> 2.6.22-14-generic
[02:57] <Invisible_Slack> anyone had any luck getting the DRI Drivers working in the default install?
[02:57] <Mexflubber> 2.6.22-14-generic
[02:57] <Mexflubber> yes xD
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Invisible_Slack, which graphics card?
[02:59] <Invisible_Slack> BluesKaj, r128 Mobility
[02:59] <epimeth> Mexflubber: so get the package ubuntu-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:59] <epimeth> Mexflubber: and install it
[03:00] <Invisible_Slack> BluesKaj, it seems that all the modules are loaded from what xorg.log says but then this come in the xorg.log
[03:00] <BluesKaj> Invisible_Slack, ATI here and the default restricted driver works well on my pc ..DRI and 3D is good for an elcheapo on board
[03:01] <Invisible_Slack> BluesKaj, (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:01] <jereme_> there can be issues with MESA conflicting
[03:01] <Invisible_Slack> I'm using the default Xorg DRI Drivers or trying to, when I go to System Settings and then Restricted Drivers it only shows me my Airlink Wireless Network Drivers
[03:02] <Mexflubber> epimeth: where can I download that package? I don't have internet on that computer... I'm in another one
[03:02] <Invisible_Slack> jereme_, How can I fix that? or even find out if that is the problem?
[03:03] <Invisible_Slack> jereme_, I know DRI works because there are several webpages showing that DRI does work with this Latitude C600
[03:04] <epimeth> Mexflubber: where did you download the other package from?
[03:04] <Mexflubber> the other link you gave me =P
[03:05] <epimeth> Mexflubber: did you download the feisty package?
[03:05] <jereme_> Invisible_Slack: check this url for the word mesa http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[03:07] <epimeth> Mexflubber: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/madwifi-tools for madwifi, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic for restricted modules
[03:08] <jereme_> shit hell yes word to the mother freaking bird
[03:08] <jereme_> I got fglrx working
[03:08] <epimeth> jereme_: I remember how I felt when I got mine working :-)
[03:08] <epimeth> jereme_: congrats
[03:09] <jereme_> for me it was getting freedos and updating my bios
[03:09] <epimeth> Mexflubber: you might not even need madwifi-tools...
[03:09] <Invisible_Slack> i went through 6 hours before I got my Airlink 101 wireless card working
[03:10] <jereme_> wow lame...  immediately after I get it working, it breaks again
[03:10] <Mexflubber> moway_lmalo@hot
[03:10] <jereme_> I <3 ATI, really
[03:11] <epimeth> Mexflubber: wtf?
[03:13] <Invisible_Slack> jereme_, talking about wireless?
[03:13] <jereme_> no... I'm battling an ATI card
[03:13] <jereme_> a fools errand
[03:13] <Invisible_Slack> jereme_, I've been working on this old crap card all day almost
[03:13] <raymundo> necesito ayuda de alguien que hable español please
[03:14] <jereme_> !es
[03:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:14] <Invisible_Slack> tell me about a fools errand I can't believe the new xorg breaks the simple DRI
[03:16] <Invisible_Slack> jereme_, then to top it off I have to load a wifi manager everytime I boot because it won't auto connect to my wireless network for some reason every time I load up lol
[03:16] <dasKreech> !ohmy | jereme_
[03:16] <ubotu> jereme_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:16] <epimeth> !he
[03:16] <ubotu> לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:
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[03:17] <jereme_> dasKreech: you waited so long I couldn't remember swearing :) sorry about tht
[03:17] <dasKreech> Let that be a lesson to you!
[03:17] <Tm_T> jereme_: you can promise it won't happen again?
[03:17] <dasKreech> Never forget what comes outta your mouth
[03:17] <dasKreech> or .. um fingers
[03:17] <Tm_T> aye :))
[03:18] <epimeth> does kde4 still have katapult?  Its pretty much *the* reason I prefer linux to windows
[03:18] <jen2> meh, this'll work
[03:19] <Tm_T> epimeth: it does have very good launcher, similar to katapult
[03:19] <jen2> *big* question.  does gutsy support the 3d rendering of the via chrome9 k8m890 chipset?
[03:19] <Tm_T> but I never really used Katapult so maybe I fail in this
[03:19] <jen2> -of +on
[03:20] <flipstar> omg a admin
[03:20] <flipstar> !admin
[03:20] <ubotu> Meddle not in the affairs of sysadmins for they are mysterious and quick to anger.
[03:20] <epimeth> Tm_T: if its what I think it is, it seems like its more like alt+f2 than katapult
[03:21] <flipstar> i'll better quit
[03:21] <Tm_T> epimeth: it's normal Klauncher evolving to closer to Katapult
[03:21]  * epimeth meddles in the affairs of ubotu
[03:22] <Tm_T> epimeth: it isn't yet the same, true, but will be IIRC, no idea if there is Katapult too in 4.0
[03:22] <epimeth> Tm_T: I hope so :-(
[03:22] <Tm_T> :)
[03:22] <Tm_T> epimeth: like me to find out?
[03:23] <epimeth> Tm_T: yes, please!
[03:23] <Tm_T> a sec
[03:25] <Tm_T> epimeth: apparently not yet
[03:25] <jen2> at least the 'yet' is a hopeful sign
[03:26] <Tm_T> yup, under work apparently, though, Klauncher is planned to have same features (and more)
[03:26] <jen2> this nick is making me confuzzled.
[03:27] <dasKreech> There is a #katapult
[03:27] <Daisuke_Too> there.
[03:27] <Daisuke_Too> working on my fiancee's computer and trying to get 3d acceleration on this POS chrome9 chipset :\
[03:28] <Daisuke_Too> if* it even supports it.
[03:28] <dasKreech> how liberally do you define something as 3d accelerated ?
[03:29] <Daisuke_Too> fairly liberally
[03:29] <dasKreech> !info mtptarget
[03:29] <ubotu> Package mtptarget does not exist in gutsy
[03:29] <dasKreech> dang
[03:29] <epimeth> Tm_T: cheers
[03:29] <Daisuke_Too> let's say...  able to use compiz
[03:30] <epimeth> all right guys... I'm signing off for tonight.  catch you laterz
[03:32] <Daisuke_Too> not looking for a graphics powerhouse on which to play high-end shooters, just...  a little shiny stuff
[03:35] <Invisible_Slack> Well that webpage didn't help :S DRI is eluding me
[03:38] <Daisuke_Too> mmmkay, what i'm seeing is "so solly cholly, you are out of luck" as far as acceleration :\  not surprising, really, i wish i would have gone with the board with onboard ati (how depressing is that?)
[03:42] <navetz> can somone tell me how I can reallocate the amount of space on my virtual XP partition in vmware-server
[03:44] <snarkster> hmm make a new drive img, mount it and copy the data from one to the other
[03:48] <Daisuke_Too> now this is just ridiculous
[03:49] <Daisuke_Too> i found an openchrome repo.  can't install because it depends on libc >= 2.7.1
[03:56] <ttl> hey, anyone know how to fix an adept problem?  Adept_manager crashed, signal 6 (SIGABRT)
[03:56] <ttl> it's happened like 4x now >.<
[03:56] <ttl> everytime, when I try to upgrade K7.10
[04:14] <liz_> how does one cancel a command done on konsole.. I typed 'giftd -v' and it just keeps going
[04:15] <liz_> can I just exit konsole??
[04:15] <ttl> does "exit" work?
[04:16] <Pici> liz_: ctrl-c usually to cancel a running command.
[04:16] <liz_> typed or pressing the keyboard??
[04:17] <Pici> ctrl and c and the same time, so, keyboard?
[04:17] <ttl> yup, simultaneous keyboard pressing
[04:18] <liz_> lol yea I got it, thx Pici
[04:18] <Pici> yw
[04:18] <liz_> thx ttl
[04:19] <ttl> Pici, you wouldn't happen to know anything about adept would you?
[04:19] <Pici> ttl: Not at all sorry, I'm more of a Gnome person ;)
[04:20] <ttl> oh rats
[04:20] <ttl> what does Gnome have to do w/ Adept?
[04:20] <ttl> i thought Gnome/KDE are GUIs... shouldn't affect upgrading software, no?
[04:21] <dasKreech> !upgrade
[04:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:21] <dasKreech> ttl: ^^^
[04:21] <ttl> ubotu: i already downloaded and installed 7.10
[04:21] <ttl> oh.. phooey
[04:22] <ttl> dasKreech - i already have 7.10
[04:22] <ttl> but Adept says there are upgrades
[04:22] <ttl> and I wanna get FX/Thunderbird, etc.
[04:22] <ttl> which don't come preinstalled in Kubuntu
[04:22] <dasKreech> Adept won't open?
[04:23] <ttl> it'll open, then complain >.<
[04:23] <ttl> i downloaded packages for upgrading, and when it goes to processing, it causes some error
[04:23] <ttl> afterwards, trying to run adept causes "another process is using the libraries"... "signal 6 (SIGABRT)"
[04:24] <ttl> any ideas?
[04:26] <dasKreech> Umm yeah but I'm kinda very distracted at the moment
[04:27] <dasKreech> #kubuntu-devel has some guys who can help out though a purge sounds like a good idea
[04:27] <Daisuke_too> blech
[04:28] <ttl> a purge?
[04:28] <ttl> ooo
[04:28] <Daisuke_too> well that didn't work, the chrome9 chipset is garbage, and i'm going to have to pick up a real video card for this thing
[04:28] <ttl> that doesn't sound very good
[04:28] <dasKreech> Daisuke_too: choose well
[04:28] <ttl> indeed
[04:29] <Daisuke_too> well that's a given
[04:29] <Daisuke_too> will probably go with something similar to that in my own desktop machine
[04:29] <Daisuke_too> an nvidia 7600 gs
[04:29] <Daisuke_too> perhaps even the 8400gs, as it's even cheaper than the 7600 now :\
[04:30] <Daisuke_too> but anything, and i do mean *anything*, even a geforce 4 mx 4000 pci card, is going to be better than the garbage on this motherboard
[04:39] <WorkingOnWise> do gnome apps run smoother in kde than kde apps run in gnome?
[04:39] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: try and find your own mileage
[04:39] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: there should not be any different really but meh
[04:43] <WorkingOnWise> Tm_T: rather not. I have used Gnome for a long time just because it is what I started with, but have always used at least a few kde apps. between koffice and kde4, I may well switch, but will still use the many gnome apps I have grown fond of. kde apps always seem to be just a little unstable in gnome, mainlt when they want kioslave which is not runnung in gnome. Can I expect the same types of problems in kde with gnome ap
[04:46] <dasKreech> WorkingOnWise: kioslave will be running :)
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> dasKreech: yeah, but dbus wont be, so can I expect the same annoyances in kde with gnome apps as a result?
[04:51] <dasKreech> WorkingOnWise: Run KDE4 :)
[04:56] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: KDE3 does have dbus running
[04:58] <WorkingOnWise> Tm_T: it does?
[04:59] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: does
[04:59] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: some apps use it (or backends does atleast)
[04:59] <WorkingOnWise> Tm_T: I have been doing it backwards for 10 years??
[04:59] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: anyway, I never had problems running GNOME apps in KDE, and I do it a lot
[04:59] <WorkingOnWise> ok...maybe not 10...6....
[05:01] <WorkingOnWise> grrrrrr.....I wish I knew what dbus and kio was back then! Thats it, I'm instaling KDE4 tonight!
[05:02] <dasKreech> WorkingOnWise: Well to make up get 60 or so people on KDE
[05:03] <WorkingOnWise> dasKreech: lol...thats my pennance?
[05:03] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: why not KDE3 too?
[05:04] <dasKreech> No but you'll feel a lot better
[05:04] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: anyway, KDE4 uses dbus entirely
[05:05] <WorkingOnWise> kde 3 and 4 can coexist smoothly? any way to let one pick up the settings from the other?
[05:05] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: coexist just fine, or atleast should
[05:06] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: they are choosable by logintime just like GNOME is
[05:06] <WorkingOnWise> cool. Is there anything like the rotating cube in compiz-fusion?
[05:07] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: no idea, I don't do those stuff (might be fun for one time but irritating after)
[05:07] <dasKreech> there is a pretty way to change desktops
[05:07] <dasKreech> No cube thought it's possible
[05:07] <WorkingOnWise> Tm_T: it is my silver bullet to make any Windows or Mac user green with envy :D
[05:08] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: I see, not my thing anyway ;)
[05:09] <WorkingOnWise> dasKreech: any idea if there is a way to turn off kde4's 3d stuff and then run compiz fusion?
[05:09] <Tm_T> WorkingOnWise: sure there is
[05:09] <dasKreech> sure it's a manager
[05:09] <Tm_T> it's off by default in 4.0
[05:09] <dasKreech> part of the stack
[05:10] <dasKreech> pretty much any part of the stack can be pulled out and put back in
[05:10] <WorkingOnWise> I have only read some on kde4 so not versed in it...
[05:10] <Tm_T> KDE3 <3
[05:10] <WorkingOnWise> what?
[05:12] <dasKreech> He loves KDE3
[05:14] <WorkingOnWise> ah...ok. I liked it too, but was so used to gnome, and used so many gnome apps, just stayed there. koffice seems to be a point finally that it could be a replacement for OpenOffice. If so, another reason to use kde
[05:15] <dasKreech> WorkingOnWise: Yeah unless you like development small intermittent headaches filing bugs or finding out how far you have to reach for a workaround I'd say KDE3 should work nicely
[05:18] <WorkingOnWise> well, I still have lotsa  disk space so I can give kde3 and 4 some of it :) I'm hoping kde4 will be as ipressive as kde3 was when I first saw it in Mandrake 7.something....
[05:18] <WorkingOnWise> ipressive=impressive
[05:21] <dasKreech> Oh I thought that was an Apple Printer
[05:21] <WorkingOnWise> lol
[05:21] <WorkingOnWise> cute
[05:23] <romunov> evolution mail is somewhat slow at downloading messages from the server
[05:23] <romunov> thunderbird didn't have that problem
[05:23] <romunov> it takes minutes to fetch 50 standard sized messages
[05:24] <dasKreech> WorkingOnWise: really you can give KDE4 a rest for a year before impressive kicks in
[05:27] <WorkingOnWise> dasKreech: thats a bummer....When I saw kde3.0 i was hooked, untill reallity set in and I had to concede that my world still mandated MS Office and Access 2000.... it was sad to go beck to the Explorer interface....
[05:34] <dasKreech> KDE4.0 will probably do the same
[05:34] <dasKreech> KDE4.2 would probably convince you enough to not let go
[05:35] <xRaich[o]2x> oh yes it will, the API is totally impressive. can't wait to see what they are going to do with it ^^
[05:36] <Elda> Hello... quick question.  Im wanting to switch over to KDE from Gnome, but am having trouble with the Network manager in thatwork it brings up the lists of networks, but will not allow me to input the password to access my net
[05:36] <osiris> wifi ?
[05:36] <Elda> err work was supposed to be on the end... stupid touchpad
[05:36] <Elda> yes
[05:37] <osiris> have you tried madwifi ?
[05:37] <Elda> kwifi brings up the network in there but no dice in connecting
[05:37] <Elda> Would I be able to install it through gnome and access it in kde?
[05:37] <osiris> sure
[05:38] <osiris> you may have to run it from a command or run dialog, but its a wifi app that may work for you
[05:41] <Elda> hmm, how would I install it? I dont see a specific entry for it in synaptic package manager
[05:42] <Tmas> ok anyone wanna help out a total noob that isnt even sure if he installed kubuntu correctly?
[05:43] <posingaspopular> Tmas: what do you want to check?
[05:44] <Tmas> well for one, my sound isnt working at all. and I can't connect to any networks with my wireless connection
[05:44] <Tmas> When I installed this I made a seperate partion on my harddrive. Im supposed to do that right?
[05:44] <Tmas> partition*
[05:45] <Elda> what laptop?
[05:45] <Tmas> yeah, its a gateway m3707
[05:45] <Elda> I'm using a Toshiba p100-st9752... and I had to fix the sound issues via a dsdt patch
[05:46] <Elda> And wireless works in gnome but the kwifi does not allow me to input the password to log onto my network, even though it finds my network on the list of networks >.<
[05:46] <Tmas> see, I come from just using windows and stuff so I don't know how to do any of that. I'm a total noob using linux
[05:46] <Tmas> this is linux right? lol!
[05:46] <Elda> I am somewhat new too, Ive just been playing with this trying to fix it for ages lol
[05:46] <Elda> one second while I find how I fixed it
[05:46] <Tmas> alright cool
[05:50] <Elda> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/96259-toshiba-p100-series-sound-fix-ubuntu.html  This is for a toshiba but you might find something familiar
[05:51] <Tmas> sweet, thx
[05:51] <Tmas> just so i don't sound like an idiot.. Kubuntu is the same thing as Ubuntu right?
[05:52] <dasKreech> !kubuntu
[05:52] <Elda> Ubuntu is the same thing, except that it uses KDE instead of Gnome
[05:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:52] <restagner> anyone have any idea how to change the hostname of your computer without messing up KDE.  Each time I change the hostname, I try to start up KDE and it freezes...never gets me to the desktop
[05:52] <Tmas> ah cool
[05:52] <Elda> Once I figure out how to make my wirless work in KDE Im switching to KDE<
[05:52] <dasKreech> Once it's not dealing with Gnome (in theory) things should work under Kubuntu
[05:53] <dasKreech> !wifi
[05:53] <Tmas> what is gnome exactly?
[05:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:53] <dasKreech> !gnome
[05:53] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[05:53] <Tmas> lol ok so I just type ! and then something at the bot tells me about it?
[05:53] <Tmas> !noob
[05:53] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:53] <supert0nes> anyone know where i can get yzis?
[05:53] <Tmas> lol
[05:53] <Tmas> my b
[05:54] <Elda> brb going to try it and see if it works
[05:54] <Elda> as I got another wifi tool
[05:54] <restagner> anyone have any idea how to change the hostname of your computer without messing up KDE.  Each time I change the hostname, I try to start up KDE and it freezes...never gets me to the desktop
[05:54] <unagi_> im having trouble with my external drive not mounting how do i troubleshoot it
[05:56] <unagi_> ok i fixed the drive
[05:56] <unagi_> but the battery icon isnt in my tray.....
 you might give the 'fuser' command a try
[05:56] <unagi_> fuser?
[05:57] <dasKreech> supert0nes: What is yzis?
[05:57] <supert0nes> kvim
[05:57] <restagner> unagi_ The fuser command command takes as an argument either a file path, the name of a mounted filesystem, or a namespace/port combination (eg. Telnet/TCP). If the specified resource is being used, fuser displays the name of the resource along with the ID of each process accessing it
[05:57] <dasKreech> !hostname
[05:57] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[05:58] <Elda> Woohoo!
[05:58] <Elda> sucess
[05:58] <unagi_> what is the name of the battery icon in the tray?
[05:58] <restagner> ubotu: yup i tried that, but after firing up KDE, it freezes.  I can never reach the desktop
[05:59] <unagi_> lol restagner is talking directly to the bot
[05:59] <Tm_T> unagi_: no lol in that, go back to your corner
[05:59] <Tmas> nice
[05:59] <unagi_> whats the name of the battery icon =/
[06:00] <unagi_> er
[06:00] <unagi_> i already asked that my bad
[06:00] <Tmas> hey, if I knew how to check i would tell you.. sry m8
[06:00] <Elda> now to get KDE 4 going
[06:01] <restagner> unagi_ :) i had no idea ubotu was a bot. i'm not a regular ... lol
[06:01] <unagi_> :D
[06:01] <unagi_> ironic how it has bot in its name too :D
[06:01] <unagi_> its like a clever play on words
[06:01] <unagi_> or a 'pun' as it wer
[06:01] <restagner> :D
[06:03] <Tmas> ok so... I kinda feel overwhelmed lol.. everything i soo different. I don't understand half this stuff.... My sound doesnt work. My laptop locks up when I try to connect to wifi connections with a password and my touchpad scrolls down the screen instead of using the mouse when i touch the whole right side of it. I don't know where to start!
[06:03] <restagner> dasKreech: I did as the 'bot' recommended but cannot get KDE to start up properly
[06:04] <restagner> it just sits there :(
[06:04] <dasKreech> restagner: Where does KDE stop loading?
[06:04] <restagner> right about the time it attempts to load window manager, i think
[06:05] <ttl> nite
[06:06] <restagner> dasKreech: is it possible there is a setting related to 'kdm' that needs to be configured? just thinking out loud
[06:06] <Tmas> how do i check for updates? lol
[06:06] <dasKreech> restagner: possibly
[06:07] <dasKreech> Tmas: There is an orange Sign in your system tray
[06:07] <Tmas> I dont see one, when i first booted up I saw it and it started downloading and installing some but it gave me an error and I'm not sure it finished
[06:07] <unagi_> i swear to god my kubuntu uninstalls things at random
[06:07] <dasKreech> restagner: pretty much if it's gone that far KDM has given up control
[06:08] <dasKreech> unagi_: like?
[06:08] <unagi_> wicd
[06:08] <unagi_> the power manager whatever the name is
[06:08] <restagner> dasKreech: ok. ic....what is meant by "Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match" in the bot's response?
[06:08] <unagi_> i have had to install wicd 3 times
[06:08] <dasKreech> Tmas: Open Adept Manager and filter by updateaBLE PACKAGES
[06:08] <unagi_> and the power manager.............i dont even know
[06:09] <Tmas> alright thx
[06:09] <dasKreech> restagner: how did you change your hostname?
[06:10] <restagner> dasKreech: i edited the /etc/hostname file and then updated /etc/hosts to include the name of the new hostname, and then ran "/etc/init.d/hostname restart"
[06:11] <dasKreech> restagner: ok. Just checking if you set it back to the original hostname does logging into KDE work?
[06:11] <dasKreech> cause I don't think they shoudl be related
[06:12] <Tmas> dasKreech: When you say filter by updateaBLE PACKAGES do I just type that in the search field?
[06:12] <restagner> dasKreech: yes, if i reset everything back to original hostname, then KDE works as before...weird
[06:13] <dasKreech> Tmas: no you have little check boxes. Installed/upgradeable etc
[06:13] <Tmas> yeah nevermind I just saw that lol
[06:13] <unagi_> why do they have to name power managers off the wall names that they are impossible to find
[06:13] <dasKreech> Uncheck all eccept upgradeable
[06:14] <Tmas> gotcha :) hehe thanks
[06:14] <dasKreech> the caps was cause my dog sat in my lap
[06:14] <dasKreech> unagi_: Never let Geeks name things
[06:14] <unagi_> sigh
[06:14] <dasKreech> restagner: *sighs* I assume this is all without reboots?
[06:14] <unagi_> i dont understand why its not in the tray
[06:15] <restagner> dasKreech: yes
[06:16] <dasKreech> restagner: for what it's worth I nearly always reboot on Hostname changes just to get rid of headaches though it is "technically" one of those things that can wait forever
[06:16] <unagi> why does kubuntu load all these windows when i log back in
[06:17] <restagner> dasKreech: ic...well, i'll give it another try, but this time around i'll give it the reboot...thanks
[06:18] <Elda> Being new to linux.... would it be adviseable to uninstall KDE 3,and install 4?
[06:18] <Elda> As I have Gnome to fall back on
[06:18] <unagi> ok apparently kubuntu doesnt automount external drives?
[06:19] <jussi01> Elda: I would not recomend it yet
[06:20] <jussi01> Elda: unless you want a steep learing curve )
[06:23] <unagi> ugh can someone help me figure out why my external wont mount
[06:28] <Elda> should I install all the kde 4 packages?
[06:28] <Elda> minus the dev stuff
[06:28] <Elda> Im no dev >.>
[06:29] <Tmas> can someone help me get adept manager to work?
[06:29] <jussi01> !kde4 | Elda
[06:29] <ubotu> Elda: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[06:29] <jussi01> Tmas: whats the error?
[06:29] <Tmas> i keep getting Database Locked
[06:29] <jussi01> !adeptfix | Tmas
[06:29] <ubotu> Tmas: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:30] <dasKreech> Elda: no
[06:31] <dasKreech> unagi: Like USB drives?
[06:33] <unagi> well yea
[06:33] <unagi> usb externa hard drive
[06:33] <Elda> installing KDE 4 now :D
[06:33] <Tmas> w00t the bot fixed my problem!
[06:33] <Tmas> if I just installed kubuntu do I already have KDE 4?
[06:34] <dasKreech> Elda: removed KDE3 ?
[06:34] <dasKreech> unagi: It doesn't turn up on your desktop?
[06:34] <Elda> no
[06:35] <dasKreech> Elda: Thats fine
[06:36] <unagi> it does but it doesntm ount
[06:37] <unagi> great now im getting a NEW error that doesnt make sense to me
[06:37] <unagi> !fuse
[06:37] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[06:37] <unagi> what the heck
[06:41] <Ashex> hmm
[06:41] <unagi> now it says something about .dev.fuse
[06:41] <Ashex> I want to use find to rename/convert the first image found in a folder, but I kinda suck with it
[06:44] <unagi> i dont understand
[06:44] <unagi> if i manually mount the drive it mounts, if i just plug it in it doesnt
[06:44] <Elda> now to see if ti worked, lol
[06:44] <Elda> brb
[06:45] <serga> hello, I have a little problem with kubuntu, I changed the date order and now I have DD 01 YYYY anywhere. Do u know how to fix it ?
[06:45] <AMcBain> Assuming I was stupid enough to select "hide toolbar" under settings (in the toolbar), which I was, ho do I unhide it?
[06:46] <kaminix> Is there any way to open my current tty1 session in my current terminal?
[06:47] <AMcBain> how*
[06:48] <kaminix> AMcBain: In Konversation the "show/hide toolbar" button is in the same place.
[06:48] <kaminix> The menubar however, is ctrl + m
[06:48] <AMcBain> Thanks, I did it on KMix by accident (or curiosity is more likely)
[06:49] <kaminix> Been there, done that :)
[06:49] <AMcBain> :)
[06:56] <unagi> omg someone please............what does fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: permission denied mean
[06:56] <unagi> i mean i know what it means but how do i fix that, i get that when i try to mount my external
[06:56] <AMcBain> sudo
[06:56] <cn28h> it means you probably forgot to add yourself to the fuse group
[06:56] <unagi> awesome idea
[06:56] <unagi> except for the fact that its when i plug it in
[06:56] <unagi> what is fuse
[06:56] <unagi> ive never heard of fuse
[06:57] <cn28h> filesystems in userspace
[06:57] <unagi> ??
[06:57] <cn28h> is fuse loaded?
[06:57] <unagi> i dont know what fuse is
[06:57] <unagi> so i have no idea
[06:57] <cn28h> lsmod | grep fuse
[06:57] <unagi> 47124 5
[06:58] <cn28h> are you in the fuse group?
[06:58] <unagi> so yes
[06:58] <unagi> i dont know what fuse is
[06:58] <ubuntu> hi i got a problem, i messed up and im using the live CD right now
[06:58] <cn28h> run "groups"
[06:58] <cn28h> see if fuse is listed
[06:58] <unagi> fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: permission denied
[06:58] <unagi> oops
[06:58] <unagi> unagi adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[06:58] <cn28h> ok, so you're not in the fuse group
[06:59] <ubuntu> trying to open my partitions to save my info but cant, eithr mount em or change them
[06:59] <cn28h> sudo gpasswd -a USER fuse
[06:59] <cn28h> where USEr is your login
[06:59] <ubuntu> anyone knows how to mount a partition so i can read/write on it while i use the live cd
[06:59] <unagi> anything else?
[06:59] <cn28h> ubuntu, you should be able to mount it using mount
[07:00] <cn28h> unagi, you'll have to log out and back in for the groups to update
[07:00] <ubuntu> i try
[07:00] <unagi> ok brb
[07:00] <ubuntu> but i dont know what im ding wrong then that it says that mount: can't find /media/sda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:01] <cn28h> is /dev/sda6 the drive you want to mount?
[07:01] <ubuntu> let me check again
[07:01] <cn28h> fdisk -l /dev/sda (might have to do as root)
[07:03] <ubuntu> yeah, dumb thing i missed.. but still i cant write nor move my information from the difrent partitions
[07:03] <cn28h> how are you trying to mount them?
[07:03] <imut> yes
[07:04] <brian__> Could sombody help me figure out how and why my CD drive is mounted as a Floppy?
[07:04] <ComunisTico> with mount
[07:04] <ComunisTico> i already mounted the partitions but cant modify my info there
[07:04] <cn28h> what command line are passing, I mean
[07:04] <cn28h> are you passing, evn
[07:05] <ComunisTico> oot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sda5/ /home/ubuntu/Desktop/sda5/
[07:05] <imut> aku ndak muddddddeng
[07:05] <cn28h> ah, but didn't that tell you it wasn't in fstab?
[07:05] <cn28h> try
[07:06] <ComunisTico> i already munted the partitions
[07:06] <imut> halah,ngomong indonesia aja
[07:06] <cn28h> mount -t auto /dev/sda5 /home/ubuntu/Desktop/sda5 -o rw
[07:06] <Ayabara> is kdesvn the best choice for gui-svn?
[07:06] <ComunisTico> thing is that i still get acces denied when i try to move  or copy my info so i dont loose it
[07:06] <cn28h> well
[07:06] <cn28h> what file system is it?
[07:06] <brian__> Could sombody help me figure out how and why my CD drive is mounted as a Floppy?
[07:06] <ComunisTico> what u mean?
[07:07] <imut> i dont know what your mean
[07:07] <brian__> My CD Drive is /media/floppy0 and I can't access anything on it
[07:07] <imut> so?
[07:07] <cn28h> what file system is on the partition? (e.g. ext3)
[07:08] <imut> emboh
[07:08] <lucy> ya til kel kun ki parle francais dan tous le monde ki es la
[07:08] <lucy> svp
[07:08] <cn28h> brian__, show us df -h
[07:08] <serga> lucy > va sur #Kubuntu-fr ou sur #ubuntu-fr sur freenode
[07:08] <brian__> /dev/hda1             111G   22G   84G  21% /
[07:08] <lucy> allo je pose une question
[07:08] <brian__> varrun                506M  148K  506M   1% /var/run
[07:08] <brian__> varlock               506M     0  506M   0% /var/lock
[07:08] <brian__> udev                  506M   72K  506M   1% /dev
[07:08] <brian__> devshm                506M     0  506M   0% /dev/shm
[07:08] <brian__> lrm                   506M   34M  472M   7% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[07:08] <brian__> /dev/hdb1              57G  180M   54G   1% /media/hdb1
[07:08] <brian__> I hope I did that right, sorry if I did not
[07:09] <ComunisTico> how can i know that?
[07:09] <lucy> merci serga
[07:09] <cn28h> ComunisTico, well you did format it at smoe point, right? haha
[07:09] <cn28h> brian__, I don't see anything mounted as /media/floppy0
[07:10] <imut> brian_can you speak in indonesian language
[07:10] <brian__> No, I cannot
[07:10] <brian__> Wierd because in Disk & Filesystem settings, it says my CD-RW is /media/floppy0   and   /dev/fd0
[07:11] <imut> brian_where are you from?
[07:11] <brian__> I am from Oregon, USA
[07:11] <unagi> 'the process for the media protocol died unexpectedly
[07:11] <ComunisTico> :P i cant remember.... last time i formated it was over a year ago... and a friend was the pne that did al the partitions for me...
[07:11] <cn28h> brian__, is there a CD in the drive?
[07:11] <brian__> Yes, There is
[07:11] <imut> brian_may I know your age
[07:12] <unagi> cn28h 'the process for the media protocol died unexpectedly'
[07:12] <brian__> I am 21 in 4 days
[07:12] <cn28h> brian__, try: sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[07:12] <cn28h> unagi, what are you trying to do?
[07:12] <unagi> im trying to mount my external drive
[07:13] <cn28h> how?
[07:13] <brian__> It said, "No medium found" ... Great
[07:13] <unagi> by plugging it in
[07:13] <imut> cn28h,can you speak in indonesian language?
[07:13] <cn28h> imut, no
[07:13] <cn28h> unagi, which filesystem(s)?
[07:13] <imut> o,,thanx
[07:13] <unagi> ntfs
[07:13] <cn28h> hm, wonder why that would use fuse
[07:13] <unagi> i dont even know what fuse is
[07:14] <brian__> Hmm I put a different CD in and it said " block device /dev/hdd is write-protected
[07:14] <cn28h> brian__, of course
[07:14] <unagi> fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/External
[07:14] <unagi> i know it sees freaking files because it askes me what i want to do with them
[07:14] <brian__> Its a CD-R..?
[07:15] <unagi> i say open location and it sits there
[07:15] <unagi> loading directory [         0%           ]
[07:15] <cn28h> unagi, ls -ald /media/External
[07:15] <apparle> Tell me a good webpage disigner
[07:16] <unagi> what does that do
[07:16] <apparle> Tell me a good webpage designer
[07:16] <imut> adakah orang dari indonesia?
[07:16] <cn28h> brian__, doesn't mean you can just write to it at will, you need to use something like k3b. And if it's blank you can't mount it.
[07:16] <cn28h> unagi, check the directory permissions
[07:16] <sub[t]rnl> !nvu > apparle
[07:16] <brian__> When I do that, it says I cannot write to the CD because I do not have permission.
[07:16] <cLaiRee> anybody can help????????? bacula-web give me Error query: 4
[07:17] <unagi> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-01-31 01:54 /media/External cn28h
[07:17] <ComunisTico> how can i know wat file sysstem im using on a partition?
[07:17] <unagi> joy now it wont show up at all..........why does kubuntu hate me
[07:17] <unagi> brb
[07:17] <cn28h> unagi, can you access the drive as root?
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> ComunisTico➜ mount
[07:17] <imut> any people from indonesia?
[07:17] <ComunisTico> thnks
[07:18] <Ayabara> I have two displays, but kubuntu always insists on opening new applications on the primary, so I have to manually drag them over
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> !id | imut
[07:18] <ubotu> imut: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:18] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I have installed KompoZer. But how to I add buttons and textboxes to the page and how to code them. I had visual basic in windows. Anything similar
[07:18] <ComunisTico> cn28h, the partitions im trying to read/write are in vfat ext2 and ext3
[07:19] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ check out nvu
[07:19] <unagi> i can manually mount it yes cn28h
[07:20] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: But nvu is same as KompoZer. Just an earlier version .Isn't it :(
[07:20] <cn28h> ComunisTico, can you read/write them as root?
[07:20] <sub[t]rnl> no idea
[07:20] <ComunisTico> no
[07:20] <imut> ubotu,gimana tho carane?
[07:21] <unagi> omg i just want to mount my external
[07:21] <cn28h> ComunisTico, does fdisk/cfdisk show what you expect?
[07:21] <cn28h> (just to make sure your pratition table isn't fubar)
[07:23] <unagi> cn28h: are you out of ideas
[07:24] <brian__> ¶
[07:24] <cn28h> unagi, not really, -- why don't you post relevant lines from dmesg to a pastebin?
[07:24] <unagi> what?
[07:24] <cn28h> plug your drive in, check dmesg
[07:24] <cn28h> http://rafb.net/paste paste what comes up
[07:24] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: But nvu is same as KompoZer. Just an earlier version .Isn't it ????
[07:24] <brian__> I can't figure it out.. when ever I try to burn a CD, it tells me "Cdrecord as no permission to open the device.
[07:25] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ no idea
[07:25] <cn28h> brian__, using k3b?
[07:25] <brian__> Yes I am
[07:25] <unagi> and what lines are relaavent
[07:25] <cn28h> unagi, well kind of a judgment call.. but look at dmesg.  Plug in your drive.  Look at dmesg again. Paste the new stuff
[07:26] <unagi> i dont understand what we would be looking for
[07:26] <unagi> i can mount the drive
[07:26] <unagi> i just dont want to have to do it manually every time
[07:26] <cn28h> oh, I thought you weren't able to read/write it
[07:26] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ I use kate for my web design... you asked how to add buttons and textboxes to a page.  In nvu, just click and add them.  If you want to know how its really coded, go to the sources page.  simple.
[07:26] <unagi> im just trying to mount the thing
[07:26] <imut> brian_where do tou school?
[07:27] <brian__> I don't currently attend any school.
[07:27] <Ayabara> how can I install all the recommended packages for an app?
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> !ot | imut
[07:27] <ubotu> imut: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:27] <Ayabara> (automatically)
[07:28] <imut> job?
[07:28] <unagi> fusermount: user has no write access to /media/External
[07:28] <imut> sub[t]rnl,what?
[07:28] <unagi> fusermount: user has no write access to /media/External cn28h
[07:29] <brian__> I don't understand, why is K3b telling me I don't have permission to open the device?
[07:29] <apparle> tell me a good audio editor
[07:29] <cn28h> unagi, but you were able to mount it successfully anyway?
[07:29] <unagi> no
[07:29] <unagi> i can only mount it manually cn28h
[07:29] <cn28h> I'm confused, you say you can mount it
[07:29] <cn28h> ah
[07:29] <cn28h> do you use fuse when you do?
[07:30] <unagi> no
[07:30] <unagi> i dont know what fuse is
[07:30] <Daisuke-Ido> apparle: audacity.
[07:31] <unagi> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/External
[07:31] <unagi> thats all i type
[07:31] <unagi> why i have to type anything, i dont know
[07:31] <apparle> any other
[07:32] <cn28h> hm
[07:32] <cn28h> if /etc/fstab is set up correctly you shouldn't have to type anything
[07:32] <cn28h> that and if hald is working correctly
[07:32] <brian__> Can someone help me with my permissions problem?
[07:33] <xevious-> yo sub[t]rnl
[07:33] <sub[t]rnl> xevious-➜ heya bro
[07:33] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: wanna see something hilarious?
[07:33] <xevious-> #k-o
[07:33] <sub[t]rnl> i don't get it
[07:33] <brian__> under the debug information it sells me it cannot open the file it is trying to burn..?
[07:34] <biblio_> salut
[07:34] <unagi> ok cn28h let me back up to the ORIGINAL issue...............hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[07:34] <unagi> that is the error im getting
[07:34] <Elda> Yep... that didnt work very well :s
[07:35] <Elda> It ended up being a horribly deformed version somewhere between KDE 3 and 4 >.>
[07:35] <brian__> under the debug information it sells me it cannot open the file it is trying to burn..?
[07:36] <cn28h> unagi, what groups are you in?
[07:36] <unagi> i dont know what you mean
[07:36] <unagi> i dont know anything about groups
[07:37] <brian__> I guess I will ask tomarrow
[07:38] <unagi> yay wonderful now my hd has moved down a letter
[07:38] <Elda> brb hopefully it fixed the kde thing
[07:38] <Elda> trying to completely remove kde >.<
[07:38] <Elda> as it does not play well if I have kde 3 installed on4 :s
[07:38] <unagi> omg why cant kde just mount the friggen drive
[07:39] <unagi> gnome can do it...........
[07:39] <unagi> YAY!
[07:39] <cn28h> unagi, groups as in unix groups -- run "id" or " groups"
[07:39] <unagi> now the konsole is giving me the fuse thing
[07:39] <unagi> uid=1000(unagi) gid=1000(unagi) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),112(netdev),113(lpadmin),115(powerdev),117(admin),119(fuse),1000(unagi)
[07:40] <cn28h> hm, sounds about right
[07:41] <unagi> this is ridiculous
[07:41] <unagi> wow
[07:41] <unagi> now im getting some i/o error
[07:41] <cn28h> now your borked it ;P
[07:41] <cn28h> s/your/you
[07:41] <unagi> yea i dont know what i did
[07:41] <unagi> brb
[07:42] <ol_dude67> cn28h, i think its a group issue with him as well.
[07:42] <cn28h> but which group? I don't see any default groups that I'm in that he isn't.. and it works for me
[07:43] <xevious-> sub[t]rnl: catch that link in #k-o?
[07:43] <unagi> ugh!
[07:44] <unagi> i liked it better when i could frigg
[07:44] <unagi> er
[07:44] <unagi> rm: cannot lstat `/media/External': Input/output error
[07:44] <unagi> what the CRAP does that mean?
[07:44] <apparle> I want a good video converter
[07:44] <cn28h> unagi, check dmesg
[07:45] <apparle> I am not fussed about GUI or CLI but I want support for almost all formats
[07:45] <unagi> why does it now want to make the drive sdc
[07:45] <unagi> it was sdb
[07:45] <unagi> i want it to be sdb
[07:45] <unagi> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/External: Input/output error
[07:46] <unagi> ok i do NOT like this
[07:46] <cn28h> that's the line from dmesg?
[07:46] <unagi> no
[07:46] <cn28h> if you get an I/O error you should check dmesg for additonal info
[07:46] <unagi> son of a
[07:46] <unagi> Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[07:47] <unagi> what is chkdsk
[07:47] <True_Friend> Hi folks I just wanted to know where the Icons in KDE are located e.g. K Menue Icon (I want to replece the default one but couldn't find the path whrere it is located)
[07:47] <apparle> Any good media converter either GUI or CLI, but must support all formats
[07:48] <unagi> nevermind
[07:48] <unagi> i fixed it
[07:48] <cn28h> unagi, for vfat/ntfs you should run the windows chkdsk utility if you can
[07:49] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[07:49] <unagi> ok
[07:49] <unagi> great
[07:49] <ForgeAus> hmmm Haxial KDX almost works better under Wine than it does under windows
[07:49] <unagi> we are back to where i started
[07:49] <unagi> i can mount it manually.............
[07:49] <ol_dude67> apparle,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[07:50] <ForgeAus> of course essentially there is no difference
[07:51] <unagi> Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sdc1 (/dev/sdc1) named 'External' and currently mounted at /media/External could not be unmounted.
[07:51] <unagi> Unmounting failed due to the following error:
[07:51] <unagi> Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL
[07:51] <unagi> oops
[07:51] <unagi> now what does THIS mean
[07:51] <apparle> The GDebi seems to hang for 2-3 seconds when I press the install button??
[07:51] <unagi> why cant it just WORK
[07:51] <unagi> and thats just UNMOUNTING
[07:52] <Elda> Trying yet another install lol
[07:53] <unagi> for the love of god please someone help me.............hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[07:53] <apparle> ol_dude67: I want to convert formats not play them
[07:53] <ol_dude67> Elda, why dont you keep kde3 and run kde4 beside it so you dont screw with adding and deleting?
[07:54] <Elda> When I tried to add kde 4 to it, it attempted to combine 3 and 4
[07:54] <Elda> It was a sad looking sight lol
[07:54] <ol_dude67> Elda, oh was just wondering, as i had it running but it liked to crash alot.
[07:55] <unagi> anyone here have external drives?
[07:55] <ol_dude67> apparle, have you tried mplayer?
[07:56] <apparle> ol_dude67: I have installed mplayer and use it to play files. But can it convert files?
[07:56] <ol_dude67> apparle, I thought you could save them to what you wanted, i havent messed around with it that much. it was just a suggestion...
[07:57] <Elda> brb
[07:58] <ol_dude67> apparle, check this out http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&aid=325
[07:58] <apparle> ol_dude67: Does MEncoder gets installed with Mplayer or I have to install it seperately
[07:58] <ol_dude67> i think you have to install it seperately i think.
[07:59] <ol_dude67> apparle, had to fight with all of this when getting dvd recorder to work and thats been a while ago.
[08:00] <unagi_> omg
[08:00] <unagi_> why is it i can access a drive in the konsole but not in dolphin
[08:01] <apparle> ol_dude67: I don't see a mention of any converter on the link
[08:03] <unagi> !drive
[08:03] <christian_> hallo
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <unagi> !mount
[08:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:03] <ol_dude67> apparle, i googled for just that. converting formats in linux and got that page.
[08:03] <christian_> hallo alle sammen!!!!
[08:04] <apparle> ol_dude67: Its a review of diffrent players
[08:04] <ol_dude67> ah, sorry
[08:04] <apparle> ol_dude67: do you know anything about web designing
[08:05] <ol_dude67> apparle, nope thats the kids job
[08:05] <unagi> does anyone know how to get the icon back for a drive
[08:05] <unagi> what the crap!?
[08:06] <Seth_> christian_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:07] <unagi> im so confused
[08:07] <apparle> ol_dude67: what do you mean by kids job??
[08:08] <Seth_> my guess is that he means that his biological offspring does the web design
[08:08] <Seth_> :P
[08:08] <ol_dude67> apparle, ya what Seth said.lol
[08:09] <apparle> Seth_:  :p
[08:09] <apparle> I want some help with web designing
[08:10] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ #html
[08:10] <Seth> was going to say, unlikely to find that in the kubuntu channel
[08:12] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I tried there. No help. The people there are not as helpful as people here are
[08:13] <ol_dude67> apparle, you will find alot of that, these people are great.
[08:13] <Seth> is there something specific you want to know
[08:13] <onishidato> can someone help me with my compiz?
[08:14] <sub[t]rnl> !ask | onishidato
[08:14] <ubotu> onishidato: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:14] <onishidato> !compiz
[08:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:14] <apparle> Seth: and ol_dude67: I just wanted a good web designing software. Everyone tells me nvu or kompozer. There i can add buttons and text boxes but dunno how to code them
[08:15] <funcrush> Can I install the Kubuntu in iBook?
[08:15] <Seth> apparle: meh. WYSIWYG editors just don't cut it... it's better to learn yourself :(
[08:15] <blizzzek> moin
[08:17] <ol_dude67> apparle, i hate trying to do anything with a web page, so i just either copy a design already in use or have my daughter create it. she knows about html and a few other programs from school that i just dont care to learn.
[08:17] <Seth> funcrush, Kubuntu 6.06 is available for powerpc architectures
[08:18] <apparle> Seth: And from where do I learn it. I have learnt Visula Basic in Windows and also know some c/c++. I just dunno the concepts of html. An good book you know
[08:18] <Seth> hum
[08:18] <funcrush> Seth: later versions are not available?
[08:18] <Seth> HTML is much easier than VB or C++, since it's a scripting language rather than a programming language
[08:18] <christian_> er det noen norske her???
[08:18] <Seth> christian_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:19] <christian_> ???
[08:19] <Tm_T> !no | christian_
[08:19] <ubotu> christian_: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[08:19] <Seth> cheers Tm_T, my best guess was wrong :D
[08:19] <Seth> funcrush, they are, but not supported anymore methinks
[08:20] <Seth> funcrush, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425882
[08:20] <apparle> Seth: I also know some scripting in windows. Just I want a good teacher/book for html
[08:20] <funcrush> Seth: sigh.. anyway thank you very much:)
[08:21] <Seth> apparle, http://www.htmldog.com/ has pretty sweet tutorials
[08:22] <apparle> Seth: I also know some basic HTML coding but nothing about buttons or javascripts etc
[08:24] <Seth> gotta walk before running i guess
[08:24] <Tm_T> just so you know apparle, html coding is offtopic ;)
[08:25] <apparle> Tm_T: Just to let you know. I have not yet started talking about coding yet. Just about a book
[08:25] <rigo> apparle: http://www.w3schools.com/
[08:25] <apparle> Tm_T:  :p
[08:25] <rigo> apparle: http://www.webstandards.org/
[08:26] <ol_dude67> so is speaking in other languages then english but you didnt say anything about that.
[08:26] <rigo> apparle, http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/learning
[08:26] <rigo> ...and that should do
[08:30] <pengetua> شسسشمشةعشمشهنعة
[08:30] <ol_dude67> Tm_T, if web design is offtopic here, can you tell us a place that we can go for it that isnt #html?
[08:31] <apparle> ol_dude67: Simple 'kubuntu-offtopic'
[08:32] <apparle> rigo: thanks for your help but I don't have net at home and cannot view these sites
[08:32] <ol_dude67> apparle, if it was talked about in there that in a way you could learn alot from it, i would agree.
[08:33] <ol_dude67> apparle, go to offtopic
[08:33] <rigo> apparle, what languages to you speak?
[08:35] <apparle> rigo english
[08:36] <rigo> apparle, :( my suggestion for offline reading is french/german only ...
[08:36] <ol_dude67> apparle, p.m?
[08:37] <apparle> rigo: where to get offline reading content. Just download it and take it home and read
[08:37] <rigo> Tm_T, where can I complain about stupid things in kmail?
[08:37] <apparle> ol_dude67 what is p.m
[08:38] <ol_dude67> personal message
[08:38] <ol_dude67> i sent you one
[08:38] <Tm_T> rigo: #kontact or even better, if its bug, report it
[08:38] <rigo> apparle: http://aktuell.de.selfhtml.org/extras/download.shtml
[08:38] <ol_dude67> apparle,  is your name registered?
[08:38]  * rigo hasn't seen an english version of that
[08:39] <apparle> ol_dude67: I f you are asking  about my nick, yes
[08:39] <rigo> Tm_T, thanks
[08:45] <ol_dude67> night all
[08:48] <apparle> The GDebi seems to hang for 2-3 seconds when I press the install button?? I have used ubuntu and it does not happen with ubuntu
[08:52] <unagi> anyone have kopete hang on start
[08:53] <emilsedgh> unagi: kopete takes long to startup?
[08:54] <emilsedgh> unagi: maybe you have statistics plugin enabled
[08:54] <pag> unagi, fresh install?
[08:56] <apparle> unagi: you seem to have vast number of problems
[08:57] <bahman> Version 2.7
[08:59] <apparle> Can I run gnome programs on KDE
[09:02] <zizzfizzix> es you can
[09:02] <zizzfizzix> yes*
[09:02] <zizzfizzix> but you will need libraries
[09:03] <zizzfizzix> such as gtk+
[09:03] <apparle> zizzfizzix: I see that there are too many libraries.
[09:04] <zizzfizzix> thats why you should work on kde apps
[09:05] <zizzfizzix> installing all this libraries makes mess
[09:07] <se7en_> how can i check what i use insted of kdm?
[09:08] <SlimeyPete> look in /etc/init.d
[09:08] <se7en_> i get (kdm); it is not the default display manager ,,, so what is my default
[09:09] <SlimeyPete> there'll be a script called kdm, gdm or xdm
[09:09] <SlimeyPete> though if you're seeing the standard blue login screen then it's definitely kdm
[09:10] <MecSympaTiK> http://www.math-linux.com site dedicated to mathematics and Linux
[09:14] <khelll> am using gparted: but all i get is one partition with "unallocated space " , what's wrong???
[09:25] <zizzfizzix> is there any way to exit konsole without quiting app(when app is running from konsole
[09:25] <zizzfizzix> )
[09:26] <sub[t]rnl> screen
[09:26] <zizzfizzix> ?
[09:26] <sub[t]rnl> start up screen, run the app, then detach the screen, Ctrl + a then d.  Then you can close the konsole and have the app still running
[09:27] <zizzfizzix> hymm
[09:27] <zizzfizzix> complicated :)
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> you can also start applications from the konsole with a preceeding &, to free up the konsole again.
[09:27] <zizzfizzix> i know
[09:27] <zizzfizzix> but i didnt
[09:27] <se7en> (kdm); it is not the default display manager ... so how do i check what is the default
[09:27] <zizzfizzix> and now i want exit konsole
[09:28] <sub[t]rnl> se7en /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:29] <se7en> /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm ok so it is a kde4 problem
[09:30] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: bg
[09:30] <zizzfizzix> ?
[09:30] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: do a ps -aux, find the process id, then bg <process id>
[09:30] <SlimeyPete> not 100% certain it'll keep running when the shell is closed, mind
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> SlimeyPete i did bg in tab with running ktorrent (konsole)
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> and it works
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> :)
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> thx :)
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: you can use fg to foreground the process again at a later time
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> oh
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> if you want to.
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> thank you for help
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> no problem.
[09:32] <zizzfizzix> thanks a lot
[09:34] <khelll> am trying gparted but am getting  Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[09:36] <apparle> System hangs for 5 sec when I press install button on GDEbi
[09:36] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:39] <unagi> anyone here have problems with kopete hanging at start?
[09:40] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I usually do that. But is there a way to prevent GDebi from hanging
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> might want to browse launchpad
[09:40] <ubuntu> I can't log into Kubuntu normally. KDE logon screen just resets. I can get console screen when using Failsafe. Perhaps someone can assist. Thanks.
[09:42] <sub[t]rnl> pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:47] <daoudi5> hello
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[09:47] <daoudi5> nhow do you feel
[09:48] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[09:48] <daoudi5> i have some problem with my keyboard
[09:49] <daoudi5> when i tape "b" it is "bg" which appear
[09:51] <pepon> hola a todos
[09:52] <ubuntu> Hi all, Any assistance with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54191/ would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[09:52] <pepon> alguien que sepa como poner en funcionamiento un servidor irc?
[09:53] <sub[t]rnl> !es | pepon
[09:53] <ubotu> pepon: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:53] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: could you paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:54] <ubuntu> I
[09:54] <ubuntu> m running right now on live cd. Where would I find the one you're requesting?
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> it would be on the harddrive that your trying to boot from
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> was this a fresh install?
[09:56] <ubuntu> No. It worked fine for several weeks. I changed a secondary hard drive but then returned all original components back and it would not complete boot into KDE.
[09:57] <ubuntu> Is it possible to mount the HD while iusing Live CD?
[09:57] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[09:58] <ubuntu> If you can assist with that then maybe I can get the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> try mounting your harddrive from konsole
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> example-- sudo mount /dev/device /mount/point
[10:01] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[10:03] <ubuntu> sub: I get can't find in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:06] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: sorry for lag, busy here
[10:06] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: ok, sudo fdisk -l, find the partition and drive that your / (root) is mounted
[10:06] <ubuntu> No problem. I appreciate.
[10:06] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: then try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/whatever /mount/point
[10:08] <sub[t]rnl> example -- sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/recover/
[10:09] <apparle> can I use K3b to rip DVDs
[10:10] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ yup
[10:11] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: how to?
[10:11] <sub[t]rnl> let me fire it up, sec
[10:11] <sub[t]rnl> tools -> copy dvd
[10:12] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: I wanna rip the DVD not copy it
[10:12] <sub[t]rnl> whats the difference?
[10:13] <sub[t]rnl> heh..
[10:13] <jussi01> !dvd
[10:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:14] <sub[t]rnl> k3b saves to the harddrive before moving over to copy, so essentially it rips, as jussi01 pointed out, k9copy is good too
[10:14] <sub[t]rnl> k9copy is the first tool that is able to shrink the entire contents of a dual-layer DVD so that it can fit on a single-layer DVD
[10:14] <sub[t]rnl> more than one way to skin a cat..
[10:15] <sub[t]rnl> you could use dd too, if you wanna get real basic
[10:15] <sub[t]rnl> dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso bs=2048
[10:15] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: Is the shrinking lossless?? Or the quality of video reduces
[10:16] <sub[t]rnl> video quality suffers
[10:16] <ubuntu> mount -a [-t|-O]mount -a [-t|-O]
[10:18] <apparle> and is it possible to use it to shrink dual layer data DVD
[10:18] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[10:19] <ubuntu> sub: Here's what I got with that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54194/
[10:19] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: space between /dev/hda1 and /mnt/recover/
[10:20] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu: make sure that the mount point /mnt/recover/ exists as well
[10:20] <apparle> sub[t]rnl: And will the data suffer
[10:20] <sub[t]rnl> apparle➜ yes the data will no longer be good.. :P hehe no it will be ine
[10:20] <sub[t]rnl> s/ine/fine
[10:22] <ubuntu> says does not exist.
[10:22] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mkdir /mnt/recover
[10:25] <ubuntu> Okay. I have it mounted.
[10:27] <sub[t]rnl> k, now pastebin the contents of /mnt/recover/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:31] <ubuntu> Okay. LOL I found the original var/log/xorg.0.log but you need the mnt/recover one?
[10:32] <sub[t]rnl> yup, need the one from the harddrive that you are having problems loading kde on
[10:34] <ubuntu> This is the var/log/xorg.0.log.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54197/ Still looking for a mnt/recover one.
[10:35] <neofox> hi leute mein adept hat ein problem ich kann es nciht öffnen selbst nach den neustart vom leptop geht es nicht!
[10:36] <sub[t]rnl> !ge | neofox
[10:36] <ubotu> neofox: ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge
[10:36] <sub[t]rnl> whoa
[10:37] <llutz> !de | neofox
[10:37] <neofox> ?? O.o
[10:37] <ubotu> neofox: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:37] <sub[t]rnl> llutz➜ :) tx
[10:37] <ubuntu> sub: Only single HD in system running Kubuntu. Removed Windows drive.
[10:38] <etfb> I'm having big trouble with USB under Kubuntu Gutsy.  Can anyone advise on how you debug USB connections to find out why some things don't mount properly?
[10:39] <llutz> !adeptfix
[10:39] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:49] <ubuntu> sub: Still with me buddy?
[10:49] <_Angelus_> is flash still broken in kubuntu?
[10:51] <llutz> it seems to be, "We can fix this The Ubuntu Way (TM) - look the other way until Debian have it fixed, then tell people to upgrade" ;)
[10:56] <ubuntu> sub[t]rnl, you still around? I mainly want to get my important items off this drive. I'm able to access the drive but my desktop is locked.
[10:57] <ubuntu> How do I unlock it?
[10:59] <_Angelus_> lol llutz
[11:04] <krabador> people, kubuntu gutsy: i've a problem with graphical effects
[11:04] <krabador> what cai i do?
[11:06] <afiestas> what problem krabador?
[11:07] <krabador> i can't uninstall it
[11:08] <krabador> in kde system preferencies are unabled
[11:08] <krabador> "disabled", sorry
[11:09] <krabador> but at startup they're unabled
[11:09] <maltron> Hi, can anyone help me access my dvd drive with cdrdao?
[11:09] <krabador> i can't unable it
[11:09] <krabador> i can't disable it (sorry, my english....)
[11:10] <maltron> I'm trying to read the table of contents on an audio cd, but I can't get cdrdao to read it.  Every other program seems to work fine, including k3b
[11:15] <yeniklasorr> How can I add a specific value of ram usage limit for an application (especially for firefox, because it is slowing down).
[11:16] <SlimeyPete> yeniklasorr: http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/MemoryRlimits?showcomments#comments  (see comments at bottom)
[11:16] <SlimeyPete> I've never done it, just found that via google.
[11:16] <yeniklasorr> ok thanks
[11:27] <hsystemxX> hi, does anybody knows how to set default login manager?
[11:29] <Blissex> hsystemxX: depending on what you mean by "default login manager", somebody will know.
[11:30] <Blissex> hsystemxX: you can mean either the console "getty" or the X display manager.
[11:33] <hsystemxX> Blissex, thanks. I solved it already :D reconfiguring gdm. DOnt like kde 4 login manager.
[11:36] <zizzfizzix> hey guys
[11:36] <zizzfizzix> i have problem with shutting down my computer :(
[11:36] <zizzfizzix> it's stopping and i must hit enter about 2 times
[11:37] <zizzfizzix> how to run it without gui to see whats the probem?
[11:39] <zizzfizzix> anyone
[11:39] <zizzfizzix> plz help
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: be patient :) Sometimes it takes a while to get an answer on IRC.
[11:40] <zizzfizzix> i know but it looks like noone read it
[11:41] <elmargol> Hi, how do I install kde4 on ubuntu hardy? I have the commandline install atm
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: how do you know that? :) People don't usually acknowledge questions unless they know the answer.
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[11:41] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:42] <zizzfizzix> SlimeyPete: okey i will be patient
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> zizzfizzix: I *think* that if you hit alt-f8 or alt-f1 during shutdown you can see status messages
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> but I'm not sure.
[11:43] <zizzfizzix> i'll try
[11:44] <zizzfizzix> but i should then write in on paper? :)
[12:08] <ciccio> aaaaa
[12:08] <Blissex> zizzfizzix: look at the system log in '/var/log/messages'. Else use 'sudo init 2' to switch to non GUI mode and then login at the console and shutdown.
[12:12] <zizzfizzix> Blissex: how should i know what is what?
[12:12] <Blissex> zizzfizzix: you read several system management books :-).
[12:13] <zizzfizzix> thanks i'll do it as soon as possible..
[12:13] <zizzfizzix> :)
[12:13] <Blissex> zizzfizzix: or you look at the messages, guess which ones may be relevant, and web search the message to find some explanation.
[12:13] <zizzfizzix> what are these messages?
[12:14] <zizzfizzix> all i mean from kernel or what?
[12:18] <enzo> hi
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[12:19] <enzo> i've using debian for years, i have a new laptop and i wonder if it would easy for me to switch towards kubuntu
[12:19] <enzo> i use debian testing / kde
[12:19] <SlimeyPete> enzo: very easy, kubuntu is very similar to debian
[12:19] <enzo> kubuntu is very very near a debian /kde or not ?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> not very very near
[12:20] <enzo> same program like apt-get and so on to manage package ?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> but its based on it
[12:20] <ForgeAus> yes same package management
[12:20] <ForgeAus> different packages
[12:20] <enzo> packages are more fresh than on debian right ?
[12:20] <jussi01> quick reminder of the kernel header install command anyone?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> (many .deb that can/do isntall in debain also install in ubuntu
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> same package management, same "feel", very similar filesystem layout
[12:20] <Blissex> enzo: yes.
[12:21] <ForgeAus> but debian OS ones can be problematic for k/x/ubuntu
[12:21] <enzo> more fresh ok, but are these packages stable enough ?
[12:21] <Blissex> enzo: Ubuntu is a variant of Debian. It is stable.
[12:21] <enzo> i mean i'm not using debian unstable cause i want a stable os
[12:21] <ForgeAus> but essentially anything you'd want to add onto debian you can add on to kubuntu
[12:21] <enzo> debian is not stable in the sid version
[12:21] <enzo> kubuntu is not like a debian unstable sid right ?
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu is more stable than sid
[12:21] <Blissex> enzo: depends what you mean by stability? ABI sgtability or unbugginess
[12:22] <enzo> a laptop that doesn't crash or freeze, i need it for my work
[12:22] <SlimeyPete> enzo: kubuntu has a more regular release cycle so packages are newer, but packages are only included if they are considered stable
[12:23] <enzo> is there an equivalent of debian testing in kubuntu ?
[12:23] <enzo> i mean, i don't need to upgrade to a new release when i am on testing, i only do ugrade frequently and i switch from sarge to etch and so on
[12:24] <jussi01> !hardy
[12:24] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> enzo: there is hardy heron (the next release)
[12:24] <NickPresta> enzo, *buntu packages are considered "stable" but are newer than the packages in Debian Stable. *buntu has a predictable  6 month release cycle. However, there are "long term support" releases every couple years or so, so you may want to wait for the next release. Still, I would imagine Kubuntu would be more stable than Debian Testing or Unstable.
[12:24] <dcorbin_work> After a fresh install of 7.1, the system pointed out that there is a propietary video driver available, and said "click here" for more information/to install.  I did, and nothing happened.  Is there a specific command I can invoke to install that driver?
[12:24] <jussi01> dcorbin_work: system settings -> advanced -> restricted drivers
[12:25] <enzo> ok NickPresta so imagine i install kubuntu 7.10, is it easy as a simple apt-get upgrade to swtich to hardy heron when it will be out ?
[12:25] <dcorbin_work> Probably "apt-get dist-upgrade".
[12:26] <dcorbin_work> But it might be "upgrade-dist".  I can never remember
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> dcorbin_work: neither. upgrade-manager iirc.
[12:26] <enzo> cause in debian testing, i never do dist-upgrade
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> enzo: yes there is a simple command
[12:26] <NickPresta> enzo, yeah. Kubuntu has a special adept_updater which will do the upgrade process (and works better than just a simple dist-upgrade). It is very similar to Debian in that regard.
[12:26] <enzo> ok
[12:26] <NickPresta> enzo, yes, a dist-upgrade in Testing isn't suggested ;)
[12:26] <dcorbin_work> Ah.
[12:27] <enzo> more difficult now, i'd like to install a raid1 on my laptop with encryption (dm-crypt) is it easy to do it with the kubuntu installer ?
[12:28] <NickPresta> enzo, sorry, I can't help you with that off the top of my head. There may be someone in here with experience with RAID 1 and dm-crypt. You can also check the Ubuntu docs for more information.
[12:28] <NickPresta> !raid | enzo
[12:28] <ubotu> enzo: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[12:29] <enzo> ok
[12:29] <enzo> is there the equivalent of website packages.debian.org to see when a package is going to be in debian testing/unstable and so on?
[12:34] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever noticed such a site enzo
[12:42] <mjuker> nortsk =
[12:42] <mjuker> ?
[12:42] <mjuker> norsk*
[12:49] <elmargol> I try to use kopete: I have 3 account msn, jabber, icq: one of those 3 is allways offline :(
[12:49] <elmargol> If I do -> offline -> online it works again
[12:59] <djdarkman> can someone tell me how can I define every day events in kontact/calendar, for example working schedual ?
[13:11] <enzo> to install a raid i need the alternate cd right ?
[13:25] <jussi01> !raid | enzo
[13:25] <ubotu> enzo: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:27] <dsc_0> I've installed the fglrx X driver (ATI).  Even though everything is configured for "dual screen", I'm only getting "cloned".  Any ideas on where to go next?
[13:29] <jussi01> dsc_0: aticonfig at the command lne is your friend
[13:29] <dsc_0> jussi01: thanks
[13:32] <jussi01> dsc_0: if you call that by itself, it will give you a load of aptions
[13:32] <Ramla> dsc_0: even if you needed different resolutions on your monitors, start by configuring them to the same res. I found the process to be very difficult
[13:35] <Ramla> dsc_0: http://student.labranet.jamk.fi/~e1409/xorg.conf here's my xorg.conf that works rather well. The 'virtual' line in section screen is a dirty hack, i don't know what exactly it does but something is doubling the horizontal resolution value
[13:35] <jussi01> virtual is the whole sie of the 2 monitors together
[13:36] <Ramla> jussi01: if i set it to 3000x1200, xorg sets resolutions to 2048x1050 + 2048x1200
[13:37] <Ramla> which is apparently as close to 6000x1200 as it can get
[13:37] <jussi01> Ramla: I think you will find ati config does a better job than setting it up by hand.
[13:38] <Ramla> i tried everything. that's the only way i got it to work properly
[13:39] <Ramla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301941 <-- this howto fails on my setup on aticonfig --enable-monitor -phase
[13:45] <srujan> hi
[13:45] <srujan> jrib der?
[13:48] <jussi01> Ramla: with which error?
[13:48] <srujan> can anyone plz help me out... i have kubuntu installed... and i lost my admin privilages... I tried to boot through recovery mode but i couldn't actually find that option of rebooting
[13:49] <Ramla> no error, output just goes nuts. rather random pixel mess, X still works in the background since there's some correlation between mouse input and how the pixels change on screen
[13:50] <Ramla> query-monitor returns crt1, crt2, and that's what i entered for enable-monitor
[13:50] <jussi01> Ramla: extremely weird. I had a problem that it wanted a clean xorg to start with, but oter than that... all was fine
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <snarkster> ok for the past few days Ive been seeing alot of hard drive activity and now the drive is full.. anyone got any clues?
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:51] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:52] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:52] <Ramla> snarkster: check for big files in /var/log ?
[13:52] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:52] <srujan> there are 2 options for me while booting one is vista ante the other is ubuntu... then when i go to edit the commands before booting i see 5 options... they are.... root,kernel with some code, some inter.... ,and then quiet  and last is savedefault
[13:52] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[13:52] <snarkster> thats about all the infoormation I can provide
[13:52] <srujan> anyone plz help
[13:52] <srujan> snarkster: can u plz help me out?
[13:53] <snarkster> what is your question, maybe I can
[13:53] <Ramla> srujan: what exactly do you mean by losing admin priviledges?
[13:53] <snarkster> you gave your users admin privs??
[13:53] <srujan> actually i'm the only user and then somehow my friend unknowingly managed to
[13:54] <srujan> remove my privilages
[13:54] <snarkster> so sudo vi /etc/groups and add them back
[13:54] <srujan> sudo doesn;t work at all
[13:54] <Pici> srujan: Do you get an error?
[13:55] <snarkster> then do sudo passwd and create a root password
[13:55] <srujan> no
[13:55] <snarkster> then do su - log in as root and fix it
[13:55] <srujan> i dont get an error
[13:55] <srujan> it just asks for password
[13:55] <Pici> srujan: And?
[13:55] <srujan> and then nothing
[13:55] <srujan> command line
[13:55] <Pici> srujan: did you type in your password?
[13:55] <srujan> yes
[13:55] <Pici> Does it accept it?
[13:56] <srujan> yes
[13:56] <snarkster> then whats the problem??
[13:56] <Pici> srujan: So, sudo is working. Whats the problem then?
[13:56] <srujan> oh ok
[13:57] <srujan> so now i need to type sudo passwd and then password thats it?
[13:57] <Pici> srujan: no.
[13:57] <srujan> then?
[13:57] <snarkster> anyway back to my issue which just came outta the blue.. my hard drive is full and it wasnt 3 days ago..
[13:57] <srujan> actually I'm a newbee so please bear with me
[13:57] <Pici> srujan: Whats the real issue here?
[13:57] <srujan> i lost my admin privilages
[13:57] <snarkster> we are all newbies in the eyes of Linus
[13:57] <srujan> :O
[13:58] <snarkster> If i reinstall do i have to jack around with my home directory which is o another drive?
[13:59] <Pici> srujan: I'm not sure what you mean by admin privleges here.  Normally if you can use sudo, then you have admin.
[14:00] <srujan> oh ok
[14:00] <srujan> let me try again and be back
[14:00] <Pici> srujan: Are you experiencing anything differently than when you first installed?
[14:01] <snarkster> you know my problems began after I installed eve
[14:02] <snarkster> even after uninstalling eve it made no difference.. drive still maxed.
[14:03] <Pici> snarkster: I know that gnome has boabab (the graphical disk map) for figuring out whats taking up all the space.. I wonder if KDE has something similar.
[14:04] <rigo> Pici, there is a file-system view in konqueror
[14:05] <rigo> ..that shows usage
[14:05] <snarkster> firefly or something like that
[14:05] <snarkster> but no room to install it
[14:05] <rigo> ...filesize view
[14:05] <snarkster> I did have a cups-pdf thing running. where does cups store its temp files?
[14:06] <se7enHOME> how do i enable emerald if it doesent start automaticly with compiz
[14:10] <se7enHOM1> how do i enable emerald if it doesent start automaticly with compiz
[14:13] <Ramla> se7enHOM1: try emerald --replace
[14:14] <advanced> hi ppl
[14:14] <advanced> !compiz-fusion
[14:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:14] <se7enHOM1> Ramla: i did ... didnt do
[14:15] <se7enHOM1> compiz --replace gives me compizbut without emerald
[14:16] <snarkster> ok i think i have figured it out.. I tried to print a rather large error log to pdf.. i think its still trying to do that
[14:16] <snarkster> Ive checked the printers and there isnt anyhting in the queu, but it might have gone Zombie.. how do i verify that its not trying to print still
[14:18] <snarkster> system drive still full..
[14:18] <snarkster> wow this is strange
[14:20] <benji_> he
[14:20] <advanced> guys i have flash player in Firefox but dont use sound exampl in flash video
[14:21] <srujan> I'm not able to install flash player !!!
[14:21] <benji_> anybody have a problem in this url http://downloads.digium.com/pub/
[14:21] <benji_> ?
[14:21] <benji_> thank
[14:21] <sek_> hi, how can I do to make faster transfer files with amsn? thanks
[14:22] <LjL> !flash
[14:22] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[14:23] <reivilo78> benji_: whats the problem
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks  :-)
[14:41] <Chas> How do I install an RPM file
[14:41] <zizzfizzix> in Kubuntu?
[14:41] <Chas> yes
[14:41] <zizzfizzix> i think you can't
[14:42] <zizzfizzix> there is way to change rpm's to deb
[14:42] <^Xalastras^> does nebody know why cant i view my greek named folders?
[14:42] <rigo> chas, there is a debian program called alien
[14:43] <rigo> that transforms rpms into debs
[14:43] <rigo> but you should only use in case of absolute need
[14:43] <zizzfizzix> rigo thats right
[14:43] <ForgeAus> you can but its not reccomended
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !alien | Chas
[14:43] <ubotu> Chas: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[14:43] <ForgeAus> best to get a .deb if you can
[14:43] <Chas> i want to install
[14:44] <ForgeAus> chas whats the package?
[14:44] <rigo> :)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> what do you want to install, Chas ?
[14:44] <rigo> everybody wants to install :)
[14:44] <ForgeAus> rigo, everybody should be ABLE to install
[14:44] <ForgeAus> in a perfect world :)
[14:44] <rigo> :)
[14:45] <Chas> Ok many thanks for your help, now I understand - been using suse, am new to Kubuntu :-)
[14:45] <enzo> i've reading a lot of doc on kubuntu, well i think it's wrong, debian testing is more fresh than kubuntu as the latter is released every 6 months no ?
[14:45] <enzo> debian testing is refreshed every day
[14:47] <lovely> Tis a fine morning for fixing Kamera, or would you disagree?
[15:00] <snarkster> ttyl
[15:10] <SGL> I have a problem. My kubuntu apache server, all of a sudden is acting crappy. It is slow, I get a max upload of 2kbps over LAN on it and all my ftp transfers time out every few seconds
[15:11] <SGL> Does anyone know what could be wrong?
[15:14] <yzaLyzarC> How can I find out witch cpu I have?
[15:15] <SSJ> yzaLyzarC: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:15] <yzaLyzarC> SSJ: No such file or directory
[15:16] <SSJ_GZ> yzaLyzarC: Odd.
[15:18] <yzaLyzarC> Oh, I forgott the space
[15:18] <SSJ_GZ> yzaLyzarC: Copy and paste is your friend :)
[15:19] <yzaLyzarC> SSJ_GZ: My box dont have internet...
[15:20] <Yattie> hi all mind helping ?
[15:20]  * Yattie young hensem guy need help plz
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !ask | Yattie
[15:21] <ubotu> Yattie: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:21] <yzaLyzarC> Yattie: Yes I do mind.'
[15:22] <Yattie> i ve install kubuntu gutsy on compaq presario v3000 using the broadcom wireless restricted driver .. i ve install the broadcom driver and firmware offline n the restricted driver sign was ok .
[15:23] <yzaLyzarC> Yattie: No, I meant I do mind. I dont want to answer your question.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Yattie
[15:23] <ubotu> Yattie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:23] <Yattie> the prob was kubuntu cant connect to internet .. i ve disable the ipv6 but still cant plz help me somebody ;)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yzaLyzarC, that's not the attitude here ,  if you don't want to help, then be quiet
[15:25] <yzaLyzarC> BluesKaj: Sorry, I was only annoyed because she asked to ask a question.
[15:26] <BluesKaj> disabling IPv6 doesn't make much difference to internet connection except speed
[15:27] <fabio_> ciao
[15:28] <mohi> hi
[15:28] <mohi> sorry I have a problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4030/ I did with --fix-missing too but didnt help! :(
[15:30] <pag> mohi, try changing apt's mirror
[15:30] <fabio_> ciao
[15:30] <fabio_> ragazzi
[15:30] <fabio_> chi mi aiuta
[15:30] <fabio_> ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> mohi, yeah, looks like the repository doesn't have the right python pkges
[15:31] <mohi> pag: how?
[15:31] <pag> !it | fabio_
[15:31] <ubotu> fabio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:31] <fabio_> ok
[15:31] <pag> mohi, alt+f2 -> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <knofi_> hi
[15:35] <knofi_> i have a nearly running live-cd... non-graphical user interface is fully functional but a graphical login impossible
[15:35] <BluesKaj> pag, dunno if that suggestion will help cuz he needs to be able add a source that's up to date ...perhaps suggesting an up to date source will do the trick
[15:35] <mohi> didnt help :(
[15:35] <mohi> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4031/
[15:36] <knofi_> my live-cd is kubunut-gutsy
[15:36] <pag> BluesKaj, yeah. sorry. I'm just trying to do way too many things at the same time -> I do none of them good :(
[15:37] <knofi_> hos to correct it? i cant install kubuntu from this live-cd whithout having a graphical user interface
[15:38] <knofi_> or whith a non-functional user interface...
[15:38] <mohi> I even tries this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4033/ but... :(
[15:39] <mohi> tried*
[15:42] <mohi> ok!
[15:43] <mohi> I soved it! :D I purged "lineakd" and never get this damn message again! :D
[15:43] <BluesKaj> mohi, good :)
[15:44] <mohi> BluesKaj: ;)
[15:47] <sigma_1234> !qt
[15:47] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[15:48] <pasquale_> hello...
[15:48] <sigma_1234> has anyone tried ibm symphony? how is it compared to openoffice?
[15:48] <pasquale_> Could you help me,please?
[15:49] <sigma_1234> !ask
[15:49] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:49] <ibou> hi
[15:49] <pasquale_> I cannot enter in the italian channel...
[15:50] <ibou> is cdparanoia useful if i already have k3b ?
[15:50] <pasquale_> italian server???
[15:50] <sigma_1234> i thought it was built into k3b
[15:51] <sigma_1234> perhaps you were banned from it
[15:51] <kalorin> um... wtf?
[15:51] <pasquale_> it was the first time...
[15:51] <kalorin> ktip is a required package for kdebase and kde-core?
[15:52] <kalorin> this is starting to get like redhat for dependencies
[15:52] <kalorin> precisely the reason I'm running kubuntu
[15:52] <jussi01> pasquale_: please join #ubuntu-irc
[15:53] <sigma_1234> kalorin: !language
[15:53] <pasquale_> and so?
[15:53] <jussi01> pasquale_: did you join?
[15:53] <pasquale_> yes...
[15:53] <kalorin> language?
[15:54] <sigma_1234> what exactly did you do to get banned?
[15:54] <kalorin> banne?
[15:54] <kalorin> I've never been banned that I'm aware
[15:54] <jussi01> pasquale_: I didnt see you join that channel...
[15:55] <sigma_1234> when is hardy alpha 4 due for release?
[15:56] <jussi01> sigma_1234: isnt it already out?
[15:57] <enzo> i've seen somewhere but i don't remember: after installing with the alternate cd, what is the package to install to install kde like in the desktop cd ?
[15:57] <enzo> something like kde3-desktop, i don't remember...
[15:57] <sigma_1234> i checked kubuntu.org. its not on the frontpage
[15:58] <jussi01> enzo: kubuntu-desktop
[15:58] <enzo> ok thanks jussi01
[15:58] <BluesKaj> enzo, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:58] <sigma_1234> !info kubuntu-desktop
[15:58] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[16:00] <enzo> if i install kubuntu with crypted partition, does kubuntu launch a random write first on the disk ?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !Hardy
[16:00] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:00] <jussi01> sigma_1234: I had an email from riddell today (on the kubuntu ml - maybe you should join) asking for testers. howerver, we should talk about thisn in #ubuntu+1
[16:01] <BluesKaj> sigma_1234, hardy4 is suppoed to be released today
[16:01] <enzo> you're kidding BluesKaj ?
[16:01] <kalorin> what's the name of the package that actually gives you the menu in the panel?
[16:02] <kalorin> basically teh menu wtih the K on it and expands to be system setting sand log on and all that jazz?
[16:02] <kalorin> thought it was kmenu
[16:02] <kalorin> but that's not the cas eit would see
[16:02] <kalorin> seem
[16:02] <hydrogen> its part of kicker..
[16:03] <kalorin> kicker-applets?
[16:03] <jussi01> !info kicker
[16:03] <ubotu> kicker (source: kdebase): desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 2030 kB, installed size 5876 kB
[16:03] <hydrogen> !kmenu
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <hydrogen> !menu
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <hydrogen> you did!
[16:03] <hydrogen> !tasty
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <hydrogen> ..
[16:03] <hydrogen> fine
[16:03] <hydrogen> diaf
[16:03]  * hydrogen wanders off
[16:04] <jussi01> !botabuse | hydrogen, be nice to the poor bot!
[16:04] <ubotu> hydrogen, be nice to the poor bot!: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:06] <enzo> i'm reading that 3D effet are installed by default on kubuntu, but what is it ? compiz fusion ?
[16:10] <kalorin> wow
[16:10] <kalorin> got my sound back finally
[16:10] <rcurtis> Hi, can Kmail display gif images inline?
[16:10] <kalorin> nothing like booting up and finding you don't have things like kde-core installed
[16:10] <rcurtis> I've tried configuring KMail to prefer HTML and Allow messages to load External references but the images still won't load
[16:11] <kalorin> don't ever try to install "kde" as a package
[16:11] <kalorin> it'll install almost the whole distribution
[16:13] <hydrogen> jussi01: the poor bot needs to be a whole lot smarter
[16:13] <unagi> i want to dual boot ubuntu with ubuntu
[16:16] <BluesKaj> kalorin yeah kubuntu-desktop is the best way to go , otherwise the load is very large :)
[16:17] <august_> #kubuntu.es
[16:17] <august_> kubuntu.es
[16:17] <august_> ammmmmmm
[16:17] <august_> lpm
[16:18] <Yattie> hi again all .. i m in malaysia n ve problem with kubuntu gutsy internet connection
[16:20] <Yattie> the default gateway ip re fixed to 0.0.0.0 and the default dhcp ip was 168.254.5.69 (malaysian default gateway was 192.168.1.1 ( i ve change it to static ip and change the gateway and ip but the wireless cant be enabled
[16:20] <august_> #kubuntu.es
[16:20] <Yattie> anyone can help plz ;) ((penin dah weih)
[16:20] <august_> spanish
[16:21] <Yattie> !ask
[16:21] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:21] <kalorin> !answer
[16:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about answer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:21] <august_> #ubuntu.es
[16:21] <august_> ubuntu.es
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !es |  august_
[16:22] <ubotu> august_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:24] <august_> graciass ubotu
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Yattie, can you access theinternet with a wired connection ?
[16:26] <vbhide> hi there....... how do i run my ipod on kubuntu?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !Ipod
[16:27] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[16:28] <vbhide> thanks!
[16:29] <Yattie> BluesKaj : cant i m on wireless
[16:29] <BluesKaj> can you wire it ?
[16:29] <Yattie> cant ...
[16:29] <BluesKaj> laptop?
[16:29] <Yattie> yes
[16:29] <BluesKaj> router?
[16:30] <Yattie> i ve just setup the broadcom firmware offline using the file from ubuntu file
[16:30] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[16:30] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[16:30] <BluesKaj> BBL ..errands
[16:32] <FaiDillinGer> hi there can i burn mdf dvd images with k3b
[16:32] <nonvottedboy> hay
[16:34] <FaiDillinGer> how do i get rid of the 3 seconds grub takes to load linux ?
[16:36] <sub[t]rnl> FaiDillinGer➜ edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[16:36] <rcurtis> Hi, can KMial display images inline?
[16:36] <FaiDillinGer> thx sub[t]rnl ill check it out rite now
[16:37] <ibou> should i chose ABR, CBR, VBR or VBR-NEW for the highest compression quality with lame (mp3) ?
[16:38] <FaiDillinGer> vbr-new
[16:38] <FaiDillinGer> i guess
[16:41] <sebastian^> heyho all :)
[16:42] <sub[t]rnl> ibou➜ VBR > ABR > CBR in terms of quality.
[16:43] <sub[t]rnl> ibou➜ unless you choose the highest possible constant bit rate setting, -b 320 (which is the best)
[16:48] <Stilo> Hi! Silly question: I dont want the preview of for example pdf-files on my desktop. How can i change this so that i see the usual pdf-symbol
[16:49] <jussi01> Stilo: right click desktop - configure desktop - behaviour - file icons tab - sho icon preevies for
[16:50] <jussi01> gah, typos
[16:50] <alien_> so wieder da problem is immer noch da
[16:50] <jpatrick> !de | alien_
[16:50] <ubotu> alien_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:50] <alien_> also ich bin auch nichjt in meiner normalen session drin kann den kdm nicht starten
[16:50] <alien_> sry
[16:51] <Stilo> jussi01: very nice.. thanks
[16:52] <sub[t]rnl> happy times
[16:54] <vbhide> hey guys thankyou! all i did was pluged in my ipod and voila!
[16:57] <marcin> jebane w dupe
[16:58] <marcin> jebaj się pedale
[17:01] <enzo> i've installed kubuntu desktop, but i don't see any 3d effect, what have i to install ?
[17:01] <jpatrick> !compiz > enzo
[17:02] <enzo> thanks
[17:02] <enzo> but i thought compiz was conflicting with kde4 no ?
[17:03] <redbeard77> How do you kill a front-end process?
[17:04] <redbeard77> !kill front end process
[17:04] <jussi01> redbeard77: ctrl + esc then kill??
[17:04] <redbeard77> says I can't w/o root permission
[17:05] <redbeard77> "insufficient permissions
[17:06] <jpatrick> enzo: no
[17:06] <redbeard77> I thought there was a command-line that I coould use
[17:06] <jussi01> redbeard77: sudo killall processname
[17:07] <redbeard77> k ty
[17:07] <redbeard77> brb
[17:08] <kalorin> seriously, did the dependencies get all messed up lately in the packages/
[17:09] <kalorin> I'm installing libgpod and all the sudden it's pulling libfreetype6!
[17:09] <kalorin> postscript so my ipod will work?
[17:09] <kalorin> huh?
[17:14] <mortmark> hi
[17:15] <mortmark> How works Krdc??
[17:16] <jussi01> !vnc
[17:16] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[17:16] <jussi01> mortmark: ^^
[17:17] <mortmark> ;)
[17:17] <mortmark> thx  ubotu
[17:17] <knofi_> hi, which recorder-program is able to record to a compressed .ogg or .mp3 file?
[17:17] <jussi01> !bot > mortmark
[17:18] <mortmark> xDDD
[17:18] <mortmark> im a noop ^
[17:19] <redbeard77> I can't seem to unlock/kill whatever process is running as root
[17:19] <ThomasD> hi, I'm looking for an aplication to back-up websites, but but is has to follow al internal links and save those pages to. Anyone any idea?
[17:19] <jussi01> wget?
[17:20] <ThomasD> jussi01: will it follow internal links and save them to?
[17:20] <jussi01> ThomasD: iirc, it has a spider option. read 'man wget' for more
[17:21] <ThomasD> aight, i'll have a look at it
[17:21] <ThomasD> tahnx
[17:21] <jussi01> :)
[17:21] <lerneaen_hydra> anyone feeling free and helpful? I just performed an apt-get update/upgrade, upgraded the kernel, and the nvidia drivers bombed. I tried removing the one I had (via apt), and installed nvidia's binary, no go. xorg log says that there were no screens found. any ideas?
[17:25] <yzaLyzarC> What command updates? Upgrade or update?
[17:26] <jpatrick> yzaLyzarC: upgrade
[17:28] <yzaLyzarC> Why does Kubuntu use more ram than debian with kde?
[17:29] <jpatrick> yzaLyzarC: does it? must of been all the patches we put in..
[17:30] <yzaLyzarC> What is the kubuntu way to test boxes if they are bruteforce safe?
[17:32] <redbeard77> how do I find and kill whatever process is blocking my updaster?
[17:33] <egork> skype license agreement window disappears before I can confirm. What can I do, where to look for a solution?
[17:35] <jussi01> redbeard77: whats the message yu are getting?
[17:38] <jussi01> !adeptfix | redbeard77 is this helpful?
[17:38] <ubotu> redbeard77 is this helpful?: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:38] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i writed a script in a file called gcc.sh
[17:38] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i want to execute by terminal
[17:38] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i cd in the right folder
[17:38] <redbeard77> only one software management toolis allowed to run at the same time
[17:39] <redbeard77> that's the merssage I get
[17:39] <TimS> How can I turn a directory on my PC into an ISO?
[17:39] <jussi01> redbeard77: so all of your adept and so on are closed?
[17:39] <redbeard77> that's the command I was looking for ty
[17:39] <jussi01> :)
[17:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but i receive a "command not found error"
[17:40] <jussi01> [ITA]mitticoooo: sh gcc.sh
[17:40] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx i try
[17:41] <[ITA]mitticoooo> jussi01: ok it's done thanks, i am newbie
[17:41] <jussi01> :)
[17:43] <Mediapirate> Hi guys
[17:43] <Mediapirate> whats the best image editing software for kubuntu?
[17:43] <jussi01> gimp
[17:43] <Mediapirate> bit harsh [jk]
[17:44] <jussi01> Mediapirate: you can also look at krita
[17:44] <jussi01> Mediapirate: what exactly are you tying to do?
[17:44] <Mediapirate> add words to images
[17:44] <Mediapirate> thats it
[17:44] <jussi01> Mediapirate: many many software will do that
[17:44] <Mediapirate> hehe
[17:44] <TimS> !growisofs
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:45] <Mediapirate> just wanted to know the best one
[17:45] <TimS> !info growisofs
[17:45] <ubotu> Package growisofs does not exist in gutsy
[17:45] <Mediapirate> for future
[17:45] <TimS> Hmm
[17:45] <jussi01> TimS: i thought k3b could create iso's...
[17:45] <zailer> a newbie with kubuntu can i ask some doubts
[17:45] <TimS> !ask | zailer
[17:45] <jussi01> Mediapirate: if you are looking to create graphics, inkscape is also nice
[17:45] <ubotu> zailer: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:46] <TimS> jussi01: It can, but K3B often fails to burn for some reason, I am not sure why
[17:46] <zailer> may b i sound so stupid but... after apt-get update and upgrade
[17:46] <zailer> should i install againg or this update itself is installing pakages
[17:46] <Mediapirate> Thanks jussi01
[17:46] <Mediapirate> :-)
[17:46] <jussi01> Mediapirate: :)
[17:46] <TimS> jussi01: Is there any CLI way to take a folder and turn it into a ISO
[17:47] <jussi01> TimS: I think so, but I dont know off the top of my head.
[17:47] <TimS> Alright
[17:47] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I writed a simple file.c includin <stdio.h> etc. but when i compile return error ""stdio.h" no files or directory"  why?
[17:47] <zailer> after apt-get update and upgrade  should i install again or this update itself is installing pakages
[17:48] <TimS> zailer: upgrade does everything.
[17:48] <doctorow> How do I change the font size in Akregator?
[17:48] <doctorow> (for the feed list)
[17:48] <zailer> thanks bro..
[17:49] <zailer> if we stop or break the process of apt-upgrade will it resume from where is stopped or it will all start over again :)
[17:51] <JoshOvki> zailer it will resume downloading, but you can lock yourself out of apt
[17:53] <redbeard77> which is bad
[17:53] <JoshOvki> very bad
[17:53] <bab> Hi
[17:54] <JoshOvki> hi  bab
[17:54] <zailer> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:54] <zailer> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:55] <zailer> what does this mean ??
[17:55] <bab> I have a "printer problem". Where can I try to get help? (printer: HP LaserJet P1005 ... try to print and get "error" with foo2zjs und foo2xqx)
[17:55] <JoshOvki> zailer: that means you have locked yourself out of apt
[17:55] <ThomasD> jussi01: you there?
[17:55] <JoshOvki> bab: has it ever worked with kununtu?
[17:55] <bab> Not yet
[17:55] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I writed a simple file.c including <stdio.h> etc. but when i compile return error ""stdio.h" no files or directory"  why?
[17:56] <jpatrick> !aptfix | zailer
[17:56] <ubotu> zailer: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:56] <jussi01> ThomasD: yes
[17:56] <JoshOvki> bab: did you download the driver from the HP site?
[17:56] <zailer> i didnt do anything is that a problem locking myself out ..... or is it ok
[17:56] <ThomasD> jussi01: got this error while trying --spider option
[17:56] <ThomasD> thomas@linuxbook:~/wget$ wget --spider --force-html -i http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html
[17:56] <ThomasD> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/concepts/index.html: No such file or directory
[17:56] <Mediapirate> bye everyone i'm off
[17:57] <ThomasD> but, i'm rather sure the file exists ^^
[17:57] <bab> No, I'ved used this tutorial http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/
[17:58] <redbeard77> !Xfce
[17:58] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[17:58] <zailer> ok why is it so slow ... i get only  2005B/s   am on 256kbps connection .. any way i can increase the update process speed
[17:58] <ThomasD> zailer: use other mirrors
[17:58] <bab> A few days ago, I start with kubuntu as primary OS on my desktop pc.
[17:59] <ThomasD> bab: very good
[17:59] <redbeard77> anyone use XFC?
[17:59] <redbeard77> or is it just another desktop?
[18:00] <zailer> pls guide me ... i found out searching like .. we should edit the sources.list something like that.. how to do that.. any easy step like from adept installer we have an option i guess
[18:00] <zailer> pls guide me ... i found out searching like .. we should edit the sources.list something like that.. how to do that.. any easy step like from adept installer we have an option i guess  ABT USING OTHER MIRRORS FOR UPDATES
[18:00] <JoshOvki> bab: did you use the foo2zjs package?
[18:00] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I writed a simple file.c including <stdio.h> etc. but when i compile return error ""stdio.h" no files or directory"  why?
[18:02] <jussi01> zailer: open adept - manage repositories
[18:02] <Tmas> can someone help me get my sound working?
[18:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> jussie01 have you got an hint?
[18:02] <bab> I was wondering about foo2zjs. But I try to use the foo2zjs.
[18:02] <jussi01> !sound | Tmas
[18:02] <ubotu> Tmas: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> for me?
[18:03] <jussi01> [ITA]mitticoooo: sorry, no. except try looking at other similar scripts
[18:03] <JoshOvki> bab: do not use the foo2zjs
[18:03] <zailer> repository?? i have opened adept manager
[18:04] <bab> How to uninstall this package?
[18:04] <JoshOvki> bab: i dont know myself
[18:07] <rickey> is there away to one useing kubuntu to send a fax useing a email?
[18:07] <bab> Where can I get the right foo2xqx driver
[18:07] <bab> ?
[18:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i do a simple helloworld.c  which print "Hello world" but i recive an error at <stdio.h> "No such file or directory"!
[18:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i am running kubuntu on virtualbox (emulation)
[18:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> can depends on it?
[18:09] <rickey> dose anyone here send faxes by email?
[18:10] <rickey> if so how ,? what program?
[18:11] <trappist> rickey: you need a fax server that will accept emails, convert them to tif and fax them
[18:12] <egork> skype license agreement window disappears before I can confirm. What can I do, where to look for a solution?
[18:12] <egork> rickey, hylafax
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> egork: Skype support issue.
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> [ITA]mitticoooo: Have you installed the build-essentials package?
[18:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> don't know jhutchins :(
[18:14] <Lorvija> Hey, anyway to boot the new kubuntu release from USB stick?
[18:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i thought c compilation is default
[18:14] <redbeard77> does your PC support booting from USB?
[18:14] <[ITA]mitticoooo> how can i install them?
[18:15] <trappist> [ITA]mitticoooo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx i try
[18:15] <Lorvija> redbeard77 yes
[18:15] <reivilo78> [ITA]mitticoooo: try <stdio> instead of <sdio.h>
[18:15] <redbeard77> than go to your BIOS and set your boot path to your USB should work
[18:15] <Lorvija> redbeard77 well how do i "burn" the image on the usb stick? (:
[18:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> reivilo78: thx but i reported the first lib, i recive a lot of other errors related to other lib
[18:16] <Lorvija> thats kinda what i dont know..
[18:16] <redbeard77> just move the ISO to your stick
[18:16] <reivilo78> then do apt-get install build-essentials
[18:17] <Lorvija> duh, that's enough? (: thought i'd need to do the same "burn" phase as with cd's somehow (:
[18:17] <reivilo78> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[18:17] <redbeard77> lol nope don't think so
[18:17] <reivilo78> Lorvija: yes you do
[18:17] <reivilo78> there are plenty of tutorials on google
[18:17] <trappist> reivilo78: it's build-essential
[18:17] <reivilo78> "how to boot ubuntu from an usb stick"
[18:18] <Lorvija> reivilo78 i tried to find some.. most used linux based progs.. don't have linux machine at hand currently
[18:18] <Lorvija> reivilo78 okay will try
[18:18] <reivilo78> u have to install isolinux and stuff
[18:18] <reivilo78> on the usb key
[18:19] <Lorvija> btw does the .iso shrink or grow when it's "installed" on the usb stick..? :E
[18:20] <reivilo78> i dont remember that well but some distributions are meant for such small place
[18:20] <reivilo78> like damn small linux
[18:20] <reivilo78> shinux i think
[18:21] <Lorvija> yeah, i'd just like to try the new kubuntu with 512mb stick... don't have any cr-rws at hand :E
[18:21] <reivilo78> oh ok
[18:21] <reivilo78> like a live cd but with usb stick
[18:21] <Lorvija> aye
[18:21] <reivilo78> 512 is enough?
[18:22] <Lorvija> well the kubuntu image was 554mb
[18:22] <reivilo78> it's not gonna be enough then
[18:22] <Lorvija> and most methods on preparing the usb stick require linux.. as in live cd or installed.. and i don't have either one :E
[18:23] <reivilo78> i think u need swap space too
[18:23] <Lorvija> well swap goes to ram, right?
[18:23] <Tmas> or a partition
[18:23] <Lorvija> live cd should never write anything on disk..
[18:23] <Lorvija> afaik
[18:23] <reivilo78> swap is on the hard disk
[18:24] <reivilo78> yeah
[18:24] <reivilo78> youre right
[18:24] <reivilo78> i dont know then
[18:24] <Lorvija> reivilo78 yes, but don't live cds use ram for swap..? they don't usually write anything to disk? or am i wrong?
[18:24] <reivilo78> i did it from within linux
[18:24] <reivilo78> so youre right there might be no tools on windows
[18:24] <reivilo78> but that would surprise me
[18:24] <Lorvija> yep.. i'd have 2 linux machines @ home :E none here where i'm atm :/
[18:25] <Tmas> i need some help. I'm trying to get my sound to work on my laptop and im reading some of these guides but im a total linux noob and I cant figure it out. can someone help me?
[18:25] <Lorvija> there might be some tools.. :E just need to search couple of hours i guess
[18:25] <reivilo78> yeah :)
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> Lorvija: Swap going to ram is meaningles.
[18:26] <bab> JoshOvki: Thanks for your help. I have to try it with another driver. HP has no driver on its page.
[18:26] <Lorvija> jhutchins_wk true, but when using live cd's usually nothing should write on hd
[18:26] <jhutchins_wk> Lorvija: live CD's will usually make use of a swap partition if they find one, as the theory is that nothing in swap is permanent anyway.
[18:26] <Lorvija> jhutchins_wk okay (: last time i tried puppy linux or similar i just never saw hd light blink =)
[18:26] <reivilo78> Lorvija: i found something
[18:26] <reivilo78> but its in french
[18:27] <jhutchins_wk> Lorvija: Only if they find a valid linux swap partition.  Some have the option to write a swap file on an existing filesystem, but configurable.
[18:27] <reivilo78> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/depuis_une_cle_usb
[18:27] <Lorvija> jhutchins_wk right (: then in my case it didn't find one (:
[18:27] <reivilo78> download NTRawWrite
[18:27] <jhutchins_wk> For instance, a live linux CD running on a Windows system probably wouldn't enable swap, as it would have to create a file on the vfat or ntfs partition.
[18:27] <Lorvija> duh french isn't my specialty :P
[18:28] <reivilo78> download NTRawWrite
[18:28] <reivilo78> then burn
[18:28] <reivilo78> http://traaf.free.fr/boot.img.zip
[18:28] <reivilo78> boot.img
[18:28] <reivilo78> on the usb key
[18:28] <reivilo78> using that program
[18:28] <Tmas> can someone help me get my sound working on my gateway m3707 laptop?
[18:28] <jhutchins_wk> 4G keys are under $30 now, and that's enough to run Linux.
[18:29] <redbeard77> !sound
[18:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:29] <sigma_1234> how do i make the multisession on my lg dvd writer work in k3b?
[18:29] <reivilo78> u have to put boot.img in the same directory as ntrawwrite
[18:29] <Lorvija> jhutchins_wk yeah =) so true
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> Tmas: You need to know what chipset your sound system uses.
[18:29] <jhutchins_wk> Tmas: lspci should list it as a device.
[18:29] <Lorvija> reivilo78 okay can i then just move that .iso to usb stick..?
[18:29] <Tmas> ati SB450 HDA? does that sound right?
[18:30] <reivilo78> no
[18:30] <reivilo78> u have to mount the iso
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> No, ati sounds like something else to me at least.  Find a pastebin for the whole output and post a link.
[18:30] <reivilo78> copy the files to the usb key
[18:30] <reivilo78> the files in the iso
[18:30] <reivilo78> and make the key bootable
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> reivilo78: Is that a bootable iso?
[18:31] <Tmas> how would I do that? lol like i said im a total noob :P
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> !loopback
[18:31] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[18:31] <Lorvija> reivilo78 hmm okay
[18:31] <reivilo78> mmm
[18:31] <reivilo78> all the files
[18:31] <reivilo78> but the isolinux directoru
[18:32] <reivilo78> copy casper/vmlinuz et casper/initrd.gz at the root
[18:32] <Tmas> Google
[18:32] <Tmas>    Preferences  Preferences Help | About Google
[18:32] <Tmas>    Save your preferences when finished and return to search.Save Preferences
[18:32] <Tmas>   Global Prefer
[18:32] <Tmas> oops wtf my bad
[18:32] <Tmas> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)   thats what I get when I type in lspci
[18:32] <reivilo78> copy whats inside isolinux directory at the root of the usb key
[18:32] <Marphine> word up
[18:33] <Marphine> Got a Kubunto Dapper question for anyone interested in fielding it :
[18:33] <reivilo78> i have to register
[18:33] <reivilo78> to privmsg
[18:33] <reivilo78> how do i do that
[18:33] <Marphine> I installed the OS with no network connection active, and the updating that should have occured at install didn't
[18:34] <enzo> i have a laptop with 2 disks, is it possible to install kubuntu with raid AND encryption ? for now i succeed in configuring raid but only raid
[18:34] <ahmos> Hi, I have installed LimeWireLinux.deb package but it didn't work..should I install another format?
[18:34] <Marphine> now when I launch the Adapt installer it doesn't have a list of installable apps and won't do the updates for the stuff that's already here
[18:36] <Marphine> I select "fetch updates" and it fetches no updates... and it's not that I'm not applying the changes - when I preview said changes, there are none
[18:37] <tmalloy> when you click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, do you have any configured?
[18:37] <Marphine> yes there are come setup and there are others that are commented out
[18:39] <Odd-rationale> How do I set all my sounds to the default kubuntu sounds?
[18:39] <darkham> hey people, i've a problem with kinit
[18:39] <tmalloy> Marphine: so if you were to do a "sudo apt-get update" it doesnt do anything?
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> Tmas: Ok, so now you need to know what alsa driver works with that chipset.
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> Tmas: Google is your friend.
[18:40] <ahmos>  Hi, I have installed LimeWireLinux.deb package but it didn't work..should I install another format?
[18:40] <darkham> i removed kde from kubuntu, and reinstall it with adept, but dont' restart
[18:41] <darkham> how can ido?
[18:41] <kalib> ahmos, what happens when you type limewire on your konsole?
[18:41] <sub[t]rnl> Odd-rationale➜ kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia (there is a defaults button on the bottom)
[18:42] <Tmas> lol ok. I just don't really understand what to do once i find that out? i googled it but is it something I need to download or what?
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> sub[t]rnl: I tried that. But it didn't work. I installed a set of sounds from kde-look.org using a script. I think it messed with some config file.
[18:43] <sub[t]rnl> Odd-rationale➜ all of your kde settings are stored in ~/.kde  Removing this folder (or renaming it) will restore all of kde to default
[18:44] <ahmos> kalib:here you are http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54240/
[18:44] <Odd-rationale> sub[t]rnl: Thanks. I'll take a look. Hopefully I can just delete that one file...
[18:45] <darkham> can you read me?
[18:45] <Tmas> if I am told to run commands as root, what do I do?
[18:45] <sub[t]rnl> sudo command
[18:46] <Tmas> so i just type sudo before the command?
[18:46] <sub[t]rnl> yewp
[18:46] <MaTiAz> yeah
[18:46] <Tmas> thx
[18:46] <Tmas> hmm i get Permission denied
[18:47] <kalib> ahmos, saw it...
[18:47] <kalib> ahmos, it looks like your java version isn't compatible with your limewire
[18:48] <kalib> ahmos, your version is 1.7... and (LimeWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.5+)
[18:48] <darkham> how can i fif kinit????
[18:48] <darkham> kde don't start!
[18:49] <ahmos> ah, so i better wait until there will be a new limewire version,no?!
[18:49] <kalib> yeah...or you can try to install java 1.5
[18:49] <kalib> it's up to you..
[18:49] <ahmos> ok ,I see now..Thank you very much for your help
[18:49] <Marphine> Gaaaah got it -  It *was* within the repositories
[18:50] <Marphine> I had to right click them all because they were deactivated because they failed to verify during the install
[18:50] <kalib> ahmos, ;] good luck
[18:50] <surgy> how does one go about submitting a program to be included in the repos?
[18:51] <ahmos> God bless you
[18:51] <sub[t]rnl> surgy➜ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[18:52] <Tmas> can someoen help me? im trying to follow these instructions on a website and they say to type a command as root but when I do I get Permission denied. How do i do this correctly?
[18:52] <sub[t]rnl> Tmas➜ little more specific
[18:52] <dasKreech> Lorvija: Far as i know if there is a swap partition they use otherwise they use RAM
[18:53] <Riddell> surgy: if it's packaged put it on revu, if you want someone to package it you can file a wishlist and add a needs-packaging tag
[18:53] <dasKreech> Lorvija: there is no reason forthem not to use the swap partition if it's available
[18:53] <kalib> ahmos, we all
[18:53] <ahmos> ;)
[18:53] <Tmas> well actually, first off what is mepis?
[18:53] <dasKreech> Tmas: What's the problem
[18:54] <Tmas> trying to get my sound to work and I have absolutly no clue as of what im doing
[18:54] <Lorvija> dasKreech ye... but as i said i had never seen live cd write on disk (:
[18:54] <Lorvija> But the problem most likely was that i didn't have suitable linux swap partition (:
[18:54] <dasKreech> jhutchins_wk: as I recall knoppix had button that would make it make a file on NTFS drives it would use as swap
[18:54] <lod__air> what's the syntax for stoping avahi-daemon from boot?? update-rc.d ..
[18:54] <sub[t]rnl> !sound | Tmas
[18:54] <ubotu> Tmas: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:54] <sub[t]rnl> (the trouble shooting link is very usefull)
[18:55] <Tmas> yeah but i dont understand it lol
[18:55] <Tmas> i identified my sound device but I don't know what driver it should use or how to install it
[18:55] <sub[t]rnl> lod__air➜ sudo update-rc.d service remove (will remove "service" from runlevels)
[18:55] <dasKreech> !limewire | ahmos
[18:55] <ubotu> ahmos: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[18:56] <lod__air> only remove it from rc, but not from init.d??
[18:57] <sub[t]rnl> lod__air➜ the script will remain in /etc/init.d/
[18:57] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: Don't remove .kde
[18:57] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ i'm not
[18:57] <lod__air> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[18:58] <dasKreech> darkham: how goes?
[18:58] <Tmas> can someone walk me through these troubleshooting steps? im having a hard time understanding them
[18:58] <sigma_1234> which steps?
[18:59] <Tmas> fix my audio. I found my soundcard chipset on the website but I don't know where to find the driver for it
[18:59] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: you gave that as advice. People store a lot of things in .kde like mail that an be important
[18:59] <dasKreech> don't give remove ~/.kde as advice
[18:59] <dasKreech> Tmas: Sure anytime you hit one you don't  get just ask
[19:00] <Tmas> ok, so what do I do now? my soundcard is ATI SB450. How do i find the correct driver for it?
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> Tmas: I'm told you need the latest ALSA, from the ALSA project website.
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> The correct driver is not included with Kubuntu
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> (I have a 
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> n ATI S4
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> SB450
[19:01] <kalib> Tmas, i have the same sound card... you couldn't make it work in Kubuntu 7.10 :/
[19:01] <SlimeyPete> I haven't bothered to make it work yet though
[19:01] <ahmos> yes ,dasKreech limewire....do u want any help :)
[19:02] <dasKreech> ahmos: read the last line of what ubotu said
[19:02] <Tmas> oh. hmmm ok. that sucks.. lol
[19:02] <ahmos> yes I had ,but thank u for your careing
[19:04] <krabador> what can i do to restart my kde?
[19:04] <frojnd1> The KDE bindings for Python are required to run Amalyp. What package do I need than ?
[19:04] <acee1234> im trying to full drive encrypt my system 7.10 any suggestions?
[19:04] <krabador> please, help me!
[19:04] <jpatrick> krabador: logout
[19:04] <jpatrick> frojnd1: install python-kde3
[19:05] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i have compiled helloworld.c and i have it's executable, why can't i launch it from terminal?
[19:05] <kalib> Tmas i hope it will be fixed on kubuntu 8.04...cause i'm using the 6.06 version, just because of it...the sound card... :/
[19:05] <krabador> jpatrick: i've a problem in bootstrap
[19:05] <jpatrick> krabador: ah, don't know then..
[19:05] <krabador> jpatrick: kinit do'nt run
[19:05] <dasKreech> Tmas: You can probably get a Hardy Live cd and test it. If it doesn't work submit bugs so the next relelase will have it enabled
[19:05] <SlimeyPete> krabador: ctrl-alt-backspace?
[19:06] <dasKreech> kalib: Same advice for you then :)
[19:06] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: how are you trying to launce it?
[19:06] <dasKreech> launch
[19:07] <dasKreech> krabador: do you have kinit ?
[19:07] <enzo> is it possible with an ubuntu to install some packages to get at the end something like kubuntu ?
[19:07] <Tmas> alright, i'll do that thanks for advice
[19:07] <dasKreech> !kde
[19:07] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[19:07] <dasKreech> enzo: ^^^
[19:07] <SlimeyPete> enzo: yep. Do that ^^
[19:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> dasKreech: if i click on it doesn't happen nothing
[19:08] <enzo> thanks, but so, why kubuntu exists if it's easy to have a kde environement in ubuntu ?
[19:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> so i thout to write helloworld in the terminal
[19:08] <krabador> daskreech: i remove kde from kubuntu and i reinstall it with complete packages, but at restart it don't sun...
[19:09] <kalib> dasKreech, ;] thanks
[19:09] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: you have to browse to the directory the executable is in (or just press F4 in Konqueror) and then type ./helloworld
[19:09] <dasKreech> the ./ is important
[19:09] <SlimeyPete> enzo: some of us prefer to have kde by default. Also, the kubuntu project doesn't just make the distro - it creates KDE utilities like Adept
[19:09] <surgy> [ITA]mitticoooo: what language?
[19:09] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i am in the directory :(
[19:09] <acee1234> no drive incryption suggestions?
[19:09] <[ITA]mitticoooo> c
[19:09] <acee1234> encryption*
[19:09] <dasKreech> !LUKS
[19:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:09] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i try with ./
[19:09] <BobSapp> !Twinview
[19:09] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[19:09] <dasKreech> Liar
[19:09] <e`DrAvEn> every time i wan't to connect via wireless i have to do 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid Blah key blah' how can i have it connect automatically upon startup?
[19:09] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: you compiled it already ?
[19:10] <enzo> ok SlimeyPete but for my needs, i only use apt-get so i don't really need kubuntu right ?
[19:10] <SlimeyPete> enzo: no, you could use ubuntu. If you want kde you can just install the package.
[19:10] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes it's done
[19:10] <dasKreech> krabador: ok tell me what you did to uninstall and what you did to reinstall
[19:10] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ I was telling him how to restore kde to default settings.  There are instances when that peace of information is extremely valuable.
[19:10] <[ITA]mitticoooo> now it plays
[19:10] <surgy> e`DrAvEn: make a shortcut in .kde/startup
[19:10] <krabador> dasKreech: all "kde" packages
[19:10] <enzo> ok SlimeyPete in fact i've just done a fresh install of kubuntu, and kaboum package conflict on openoffice
[19:11] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: I know. get him/her to rename. you cannot undo removing 8 years of someone's e-mails
[19:11] <[ITA]mitticoooo> dasKreech: explain me please why i should write ./ if i am already in the executable folder
[19:11] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ didn't I mention renaming?
[19:11] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ ...yup
[19:11] <SlimeyPete> enzo: kaboum? Never heard of it
[19:11] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i writed it and now it plays
[19:11] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: . means here
[19:11] <surgy> [ITA]mitticoooo: ./ is the bash command for "exectute this"
[19:11] <enzo> i meant i have a conflict on package with kubuntu
[19:12] <enzo> impossible to upgrade
[19:12] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: I'm saying you didn't even explain what removing it could mean
[19:12] <krabador> dasKreech: i reinstall surely more than i have before
[19:12] <surgy> [ITA]mitticoooo: ./ is like double clicking in windows
[19:12] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i understand but i thought it recognize the executable if was already in the executable's folder
[19:12] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ its self explanitory, deleting something... I also said rename.  Most people understand the meaning of "delete"
[19:12] <krabador> dasKreech: can i rebuild kinit?
[19:13] <SlimeyPete> enzo: oh right. Odd. What conflict?
[19:13] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: Yes but how many people know all thier podcasts are in .kde ?
[19:13] <surgy> [ITA]mitticoooo: it does, but there are other things you can do with an exe other than execute it, in this case you want to execute it so you use the execute command ./
[19:13] <SlimeyPete> enzo: and which Kubuntu? Gutsy?
[19:13] <dasKreech> krabador: probably how did you reinstall kde ?
[19:13] <enzo> on openoffice, last kubuntu, gutsy
[19:13] <SlimeyPete> enzo: yeah openoffice but what is it conflicting with?
[19:13] <krabador> dasKreech: i completely remove it with adept
[19:14] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: it doesn't recognize a executable in the same folder
[19:14] <krabador> dasKreech: and i reinstall it with adept, with complete packages
[19:14] <dasKreech> Thats a windows philosophy
[19:14] <surgy> dasKreech:  really?
[19:14] <enzo> i don't remember, sorry... already installed again SlimeyPete
[19:14] <dasKreech> you installed the KDe package ?
[19:14] <SlimeyPete> enzo: oh right
[19:14] <dasKreech> surgy: really
[19:14] <dasKreech> surgy: it's dangerous to run executable in the same directory
[19:14] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ lol, thats why I also recommended renaming..
[19:14] <unagi> is there a way to get kde to follow the z order when alt tabbing like gnone does it?
[19:15] <surgy> dasKreech: then why does xterm highlight it like an executable?
[19:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> it's hard to change windows philosofy but i have to change for didactic purposes
[19:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx for yuor help
[19:15] <administrator> ik heb een probleempje
[19:15] <dasKreech> sub[t]rnl: ok from now on only recommend renaming :) you have no idea how ignorant the person may be
[19:15] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ just showing all the options
[19:15] <dasKreech> surgy: it knows it's an executable but typing the name will not run it
[19:16] <surgy> ahh i see
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> !dutch
[19:16] <SlimeyPete> heh
[19:16] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[19:16] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo:you can set it up to do so. Just know what you are doing
[19:16] <dasKreech> krabador: you installed the KDE package? or kubuntu-desktop ?
[19:18] <krabador> daskreek: KDE
[19:18] <dasKreech> and you want that instead of Kubuntu's version ?
[19:18] <krabador> daskreek: in command line : "aptitude install kde"
[19:19] <krabador> daskreek: gutsy...
[19:19] <dasKreech> type which kinit
[19:20] <dasKreech> whats the path to kinit ?
[19:20] <krabador> daskreek: something goes wrong, i must rebuild kinit, no?
[19:21] <unagi> can anyone help me figure out why i dont have more than 1 virtual desktop?
[19:21] <emilsedgh> unagi: so configure it and add more...
[19:21] <krabador> daskreek: what's the default path?
[19:22] <unagi> how would i do that emilsedgh
[19:22] <[ITA]mitticoooo> newbie question: if with one click the action is to open a general file
[19:22] <unagi> ah i found it
[19:22] <emilsedgh> unagi: go to system settings
[19:23] <[ITA]mitticoooo> how to cance the file?
[19:23] <[ITA]mitticoooo> cancel
[19:23] <[ITA]mitticoooo> right click on it and delete, i know
[19:23] <unagi> actually...........ok so now it says i have 2 desktops but it doesnt switch
[19:24] <dasKreech> krabador: well just need to find which package it's in and make sure that's installed correctly
[19:24] <dasKreech> krabador: you dont have a kinit?
[19:24] <dasKreech> !find kinit
[19:24] <ubotu> Found: bootcd-mkinitramfs
[19:24] <[ITA]mitticoooo> how do you generally delete a file?
[19:24] <omkar> hi
[19:25] <omkar> plz reply me
[19:25] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: what do you mean by generally?
[19:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> any file
[19:25] <omkar> i am new hear
[19:25] <krabador> daskreek: what's the default path
[19:25] <dasKreech> [ITA]mitticoooo: With extreme prejudice
[19:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> lol
[19:25] <BobSapp> in konqueror, select it press the DEL key
[19:25] <omkar> hey
[19:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i mean the modality
[19:25] <omkar> bro how r u doin?
[19:25] <unagi> any idea why i cant switch virtual desktops?
[19:25] <krabador> daskreek: i don't know if i have it somewhere....
[19:25] <dasKreech> krabador: type which kinit
[19:26] <dasKreech> when logged in
[19:26] <omkar> desk hi
[19:26] <BobSapp> oh man kde+compiz = sex
[19:26] <omkar> u there
[19:26] <[ITA]mitticoooo> BobSapp: yes but if i select the files, the action performed is to "play" the file
[19:26] <omkar> i am omka
[19:26] <krabador> daskreek: ok, i restart and i try
[19:26] <unagi> BobSapp: i agree
[19:26] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i do right click on it and then delete
[19:27] <kaminix> Will I get into trouble if I install KDE 4 software?
[19:27] <jpatrick> !kde4 > kaminix
[19:27] <jpatrick> kaminix: no
[19:27] <omkar> where r u from?
[19:27] <omkar> r u indians?
[19:27] <jpatrick> !ot > omkar
[19:27] <omkar> plz tell me
 oh man kde+compiz = sex <= you mean compiz-fusion right ?
[19:28] <BobSapp> enzo: i dunno, yeah
[19:28] <BobSapp> i only really use scale plugin anyways :)
[19:28] <kaminix> jpatrick: I know what KDE 4 is. :p But Aptitude scared me off with -9000 points for installing a KDE4 app :p
[19:28] <jpatrick> kaminix: wow...
[19:28] <[ITA]mitticoooo> BobSapp: e.g a txt files, if i want to delete it and I select on int the action performed is to "open" that file
[19:28] <omkar> hey bros plz tell me where r u from?
[19:28] <jpatrick> kaminix: "Support in #kubuntu-kde4" tho ;)
[19:28] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: ok
[19:29] <jpatrick> !ot | omkar (please talk offtopic chat here)
[19:29] <ubotu> omkar (please talk offtopic chat here): #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:29] <unagi> i cant seem to switch my virtual desktops
[19:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> so i cant' push del :)
[19:29] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: the problem is that on konquror the default way is 1 click = open
[19:29] <BobSapp> its not like windows where 2 clicks = open
[19:29] <dasKreech> omkar: hi
[19:29] <BobSapp> so to select the file you need to drag a box around the file
[19:29] <omkar> how to disconnect net?
[19:29] <BobSapp> then delete
[19:29] <omkar> hi
[19:29] <unagi> can anyone help me fix my desktop issue?
[19:29] <omkar> yes
[19:30] <BobSapp> or you can change it to the windows style 2 clicks = open
[19:30] <omkar> i can help
[19:30] <unagi> ok
[19:30] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok, thats is why i wondering how kubuntu users do to cancel a file
[19:30] <[ITA]mitticoooo> quickly
[19:30] <unagi> kde says i have 2 desktops but i cant switch them
[19:30] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: choose something else, or click in a blank space
[19:30] <omkar> hey
[19:30] <omkar> u all are talented people
[19:30] <omkar> i just want to know where i am
[19:31] <omkar> plz help me
[19:31] <[ITA]mitticoooo> BobSapp:  i don't understand but doesn't matter :D
[19:31] <jpatrick> omkar: most Linux users are
[19:31] <omkar> i dont know
[19:31] <BobSapp> ...
[19:31] <SSJ_GZ> unagi: Why can't you switch i.e. what have you tried, and what happens when you try?
[19:31] <lod__air> is there a way to prevent my laptop monitor from power off, during kaffeine playing a movie
[19:31] <unagi> ctrl alt left and right
[19:32] <omkar> where r u all from
[19:32] <omkar> all over world
[19:32] <dasKreech> omkar: you don't know where you are?
[19:32] <omkar> or from india?
[19:32] <dasKreech> omkar: All over
[19:32] <acee1234> why does konqueror keep thinking im trying to access a file when i type a web address in and hit enter?
[19:32] <SSJ_GZ> unagi: Are those shortcuts already assigned?
[19:32] <lod__air> eastern europe
[19:32] <dasKreech> omkar: Want an indian channel?
[19:32] <omkar> thank u
[19:32] <omkar> yes
[19:32] <unagi> are they not default?
[19:33] <SSJ_GZ> unagi: They aren't here.
[19:33] <omkar> i am indian
[19:33] <wesley_> how can i activate 3d support for intel 945 ?
[19:33] <dasKreech> omkar: What language ?
[19:33] <omkar> download package
[19:33] <lod__air> my monitor blank out durring move? how to prevent that?
[19:33] <unagi> ok well it worked yesterday
[19:33] <omkar> @ welsley
[19:34] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: click KDE Button in taskbar->System Settings->Keyboard and Mouse->Mouse-Settings->General->Icons->Double Click to open files and folders
[19:34] <acee1234> if no one knows wheree might i ask
[19:34] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: do that
[19:34] <wesley_> i want to play a windows game thats needs direct3d
[19:34] <lod__air> isn't middle of the night in india??
[19:34] <unagi> i fixed it
[19:34] <BobSapp> wesley_: what game?
[19:34] <SSJ_GZ> unagi: Check in System Settings -> Regional and Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Global Shortcuts
[19:34] <wesley_> silkroad online
[19:34] <BobSapp> ....
[19:34] <dasKreech> !wine | wesley_
[19:34] <BobSapp> good luck bro
[19:34] <ubotu> wesley_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:34] <SSJ_GZ> unagi: Ok - what did you do? :)
[19:34] <dasKreech> omkar: What language would be best for you ?
[19:34] <BobSapp> isnt silkroad one of those korean VB .NET type mmos?
[19:35] <wesley_> yes and a good one a free one
[19:35] <BobSapp> anyway yea install 3d support and wine will work in general
[19:35] <BobSapp> check the appdb like the bot said
[19:35] <wesley_> that what i need how i install that in kubuntu
[19:36] <[ITA]mitticoooo> BobSapp: thx i turn it in wondows mode :D
[19:36] <dasKreech> wesley_: read the link
[19:36] <BobSapp> [ITA]mitticoooo: try both ways sometimes one is faster than the other :)
[19:37] <wesley_> why cant you just tell me what i need to install to get 3d support ?
[19:38] <BobSapp> wesley_: if noone here has done it probably we cant help
[19:38] <[ITA]mitticoooo> BobSapp: ok now it's perfectly windows like
[19:38] <wesley_> so none does play games with wine?
[19:38] <lod__air> cedega is better
[19:39] <kaminix> I shouldn't be using packages from this maintainer on Kubuntu 7.10, should I? Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
[19:39] <wesley_> you need to pay for cedega
[19:39] <BobSapp> lod__air: i tried cedega demo with some games, there wasnt much difference
[19:39] <dasKreech> wesley_: you want 3d support in Wine?
[19:39] <lod__air> to download cedega, but not to use it
[19:39] <dasKreech> or in kubuntu ?
[19:39] <BobSapp> what worked in cedega worked for me in wwwine anyway
[19:40] <lod__air> your choise
[19:40] <kaminix> Is this safe? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54245/
[19:41] <wesley_> yes daskreech in wine or kubuntu as long as its runs. The error says could not  find any compatible Direct3D
[19:41] <dasKreech> wesley_: try 3winehq
[19:41] <dasKreech> wesley_: try #winehq
[19:42] <enzo> some of you use virtualbox ?
[19:42] <SlimeyPete> I've used it
[19:43] <enzo> is it working well ? microsoft office, photoshop are working, maybe you know ?
[19:43] <lod__air> why the hell ms office??
[19:44] <dasKreech> enzo: If the OS works pretty much everything else follows
[19:44] <enzo> 'if'
[19:44] <dasKreech> lod__air: Cause that may be the point of running a virtual machine ?
[19:44] <enzo> and virtualbox works pretty well running those big program ?
[19:44] <lod__air> use crossover
[19:45] <enzo> every time i run wine, i have problem
[19:45] <Pici> Dont run wine then.
[19:45] <enzo> hence my question on virtualbox, gonna test it
[19:47] <adelsite> hallo
[19:48] <lod__air> is there a way to block my monitor turning off during movie with kaffeine
[19:54] <unagi> how do you keep kubuntu from raising a window on focus
[19:59] <sharkk> hi i have some problem to install googleearth, when i try sudo apt-get install  googleearth i get this:
[19:59] <sharkk> googleearth-v1-1 license could not be presented
[20:01] <sharkk> someone could help me?
[20:07] <astan> hello folks. i'm trying to install gutsy on a system with an Areca ARC-1200 RAID controller, but the installed fails to find my RAID set, eventhough i tell it to load the arcmsr driver.
[20:07] <astan> (verified that it's loaded by lsmod on vt2).
[20:07] <wesley_> does some one know how to get 3d support with the intel 945 chip ?
[20:07] <astan> anyone have an idea?
[20:07] <astan> do i need to load some other module too for it to see the RAID set as a device?
[20:08] <sub[t]rnl> lod__air➜ kcontrol -> peripherals -> monitor & display -> power saving
[20:08] <Lynoure> astan: software raid? hardware raid? if latter, which card?
[20:09] <astan> Lynoure: hardware raid, Areca ARC-1200.
[20:09] <astan> my regular BIOS sees the RAID set as a SCSI device..
[20:09] <dasKreech> wesley_: do a general search for it on the net
[20:09] <astan> and it's supposed to be supported by the arcmsr driver, but the installation can't find it :(
[20:10] <sub[t]rnl> wesley_➜ should have 3d support.  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel then use the "intel" driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:10] <astan> wesley_: i'm using 3d on my 945gm now, it kind of just worked as far as i can remember, i'm using the "intel" driver.
[20:10] <Lynoure> astan: and how do you see your raid now?
[20:10] <astan> Lynoure: i don't see it at all, that's the problem :/
[20:10] <astan> Lynoure: i'm trying to install kubuntu onto this RAID set.
[20:11] <Lynoure> astan: tried with the alternative install cd?
[20:11] <sub[t]rnl> dasKreech➜ lets try to help people here, rather than saying "search the internet"
[20:11] <astan> Lynoure: i always use the alternate..
[20:11] <astan> hm.
[20:11] <wesley_> i already have that driver but wine says that its not direct3d able orso but it works in windows
[20:12] <astan> wesley_: there's no direct3d in linux.
[20:12] <astan> wesley_: oh sorry you said wine.
[20:12] <Stilo> !de
[20:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:12] <astan> nevermind.
[20:12] <wesley_> yeah i got 3d for windows and all but i dont get itworking in wine
[20:13] <wesley_> i would say install directx orso but thats windows
[20:15] <dasKreech> wesley_: #winehq
[20:15] <snarkster> NEVER install directX in wine
[20:15] <snarkster> it can break things
[20:15] <snarkster> wine has its own directX
[20:16] <snarkster> if i wanted to install kde4 in place of kde3.5.8 do i just apt-get remove kde* and then apt-get install kde4*
[20:17] <Lynoure> astan: there might not be support in the installer then... http://www.tienhuis.nl/areca might give hints, though it is not for Ubuntu explicitely
[20:17] <snarkster> !kde4
[20:17] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:18] <Lynoure> astan: ah, this is: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91260.html  but for dapper
[20:18] <astan> Lynoure: hm. but the support is there explicitly in the installer, i'm able to choose arcmsr from a list.
[20:18] <astan> Lynoure: yea i've read that forum post about dapper.
[20:19] <benji_> buenasnoches
[20:19] <astan> but the conclusion in that thread is that it _does_ work in the dapper installer. so i'm surprised it doesn't in the gutsy one.
[20:19] <Lynoure> astan: maybe a bug then... if you are sure your raid is configured right.
[20:19] <benji_> he
[20:19] <astan> pretty sure :/
[20:19] <astan> hmf. the alternate cd does not have the 'rmmod' command?
[20:22] <Lynoure> astan: you could try with Debian Etch installer, just for the sport of it.
[20:24] <enzo> perfect to do a raid/crypt installation
[20:31] <podr0znik> Good evening
[20:33] <podr0znik> I'm trying to install newest kubuntu on a laptop, with keeping Windows (so multi boot system)
[20:33] <podr0znik> anybody has a minute to help me?
[20:33] <dasKreech> sure
[20:33] <tekteen> podr0znik: sure
[20:33] <dasKreech> how much space do you have?
[20:33] <podr0znik> there are two partitions, 80 gb for Win and 30 gb for Kub
[20:33] <podr0znik> I installed Kub already, but I have issues with it :)
[20:34] <astan> Lynoure: hm. yes. i think that my controller, the ARC-1200 might be too new to be supported by the kernel that the installer uses.
[20:34] <podr0znik> and I'm wondering right now if I did everything properly (especially partition settings)
[20:34] <podr0znik> 'cause was doing it manually
[20:34] <podr0znik> both systems start, but kubuntu needs an eternity to start up
[20:34] <dasKreech> podr0znik: grats on installing :)
[20:34] <podr0znik> there's a black screen for I guess up to 5 minutes when botting
[20:35] <podr0znik> thanks :)
[20:35] <Stilo> how can i play divx movies in my firefox browser?
[20:35] <astan> Lynoure: 09/17/2007  1.20.0X.151. support ARC1200/1201/1202, which is named ACB_ADAPTER_TYPE_B <--- from the arcmsr driver's ReleaseNotes..
[20:35] <tekteen> Stilo: mplayer or vlc plugin
[20:36] <Stilo> but which format is divx? mpeg 4 ?!
[20:36] <dasKreech> podr0znik: when?
[20:36] <tekteen> !divx
[20:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:36] <podr0znik> after choosing which system to boot, before logging in
[20:37] <podr0znik> and for the rest - no sound, and several applications (add program app, kopete) crash regularly
[20:37] <Stilo> tekteen: these pages only tell which codecs i need..
[20:37] <podr0znik> so actually I'm planning to re-install
[20:37] <podr0znik> maybe previous version even
[20:37] <Ayabara> I have installed kmilo, but I can't see it running, and I can't find it in /etc/init.d/. Sound right?
[20:37] <tekteen> Stilo: hold on
[20:38] <astan> Lynoure: yea, that is it.. the version of the arcmsr driver on gutsy cd is 1.20.00.13, too old to support my controller.
[20:38] <astan> Lynoure: any idea how i could get kubuntu on there?
[20:38] <tekteen> Stilo: do you want the vlc or mplayer plugin?
[20:38] <dasKreech> podr0znik: install the next version!! :) heeheehee
[20:38] <Stilo> i have installed them but firefox dont uses them. i think firefox is using totem plugin
[20:39] <dasKreech> podr0znik: ok how did you do the install?
[20:39] <podr0znik> you mean the one which will be released in April 08? ;) I'm not that patient :P
[20:39] <tekteen> Stilo: I do not like totem
[20:39] <Lynoure> astan: There might be a howto somewhere on how to roll your own installer cd
[20:39] <Stilo> me too :)
[20:39] <podr0znik> dasKreech: Hm, I inserted cd into laptop, started system, and clicked "Install" :)
[20:39] <tekteen> Stilo: open a konsole
[20:40] <tekteen> and type sudo apt-get install totem-mozilla
[20:40] <astan> Lynoure: hm. okay.
[20:40] <tekteen> then click enter
[20:40] <dasKreech> podr0znik: I meant the manual aspect how did you do that
[20:40] <podr0znik> ah
[20:40] <Stilo> you mean remove
[20:40] <podr0znik> when the system asked on which partition it wanted to install, I chose option "manual"
[20:40] <podr0znik> then we did not touch the windows partition of course, the rest we made empty and created a new partition
[20:40] <podr0znik> but I"m not 100% sure anymore about the options we chose there
[20:41] <Lynoure> astan: but I'd just try with Debian Etch 4.0 latests, and see if it is there, but I'm lazy that way and undecided between Debian and Kubuntu
[20:41] <podr0znik> swap partition for 345 mb
[20:41] <tekteen> after you have uninstalled totem
[20:41] <podr0znik> remaining we made a root partition (I guess)
[20:41] <tekteen> Stilo: type sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer in the konsole
[20:42] <dasKreech> podr0znik: ok. how much work do you expect to do in Kubuntu ?
[20:42] <Stilo> okay
[20:42] <Stilo> done
[20:42] <tekteen> Stilo: restart firefox
[20:42] <tekteen> and test
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> How do I easily switch keyboard layouts?
[20:43] <podr0znik> dasKreech: you know how it works... in the beginning only hobby things, but soon enough I'll find out it's better than windows :P
[20:43] <podr0znik> but it's not my laptop, so I cannot decide that by myself of course
[20:43] <dasKreech> podr0znik: ok I'll keep things simple and later you can sort out stuff to being robust :)
[20:43] <tekteen> Odd-rationale: system settings > region and language
[20:44] <Odd-rationale> tekteen: Thanks! I was lookin in the wrong place.
[20:44] <podr0znik> dasKreech: that's wonderful
[20:44] <tekteen> Odd-rationale: np
[20:44] <podr0znik> dasKreech: if we could find out why this long waiting time during booting and the crashing apps, then we wouldn't even need to re-install
[20:44] <Ayabara> no kmilo experts in the house?
[20:44] <tekteen> Odd-rationale: I should suggest that they put it under keyboard as well
[20:45] <dasKreech> podr0znik: well I try to put swap near the end and / close to the front
[20:45] <dasKreech> outer edges of a drive are faster 9good for swap) and the inner edges are more suitable for /boot
[20:46] <podr0znik> I see, I think we did that
[20:46] <Stilo> tekteen: thanks! its working!
[20:46] <tekteen> Stilo: np
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> What's the differnce between dvorak and dvorak-classic?
[20:46] <tekteen> Odd-rationale: no idea
[20:47] <tekteen> I have never even used dvorak
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> I'll ask in #ubuntu and see whether someone there knows. Thanks for the help!
[20:47] <tekteen> np
[20:49] <Lynoure> Odd-rationale: googlefu: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-July/016664.html
[20:49] <dasKreech> podr0znik: Hmm not sure. maybe the kernel
[20:49] <dasKreech> Never had to tune my machine so I'm not sure what would cause slowdowns like that
[20:49] <de4dsnake> hello everyone, ive got a problem installing gutsy on my raid0. Grub says error 2 after frist reboot.
[20:49] <dasKreech> My BIOS on my machine takes forever to kickin and I don't know why but that's something else
[20:50] <Odd-rationale> Lynoure: Thanks!
[20:50] <sigma_1234> will kubuntu hardy have pulse audio like ubuntu?
[20:50] <podr0znik> dasKreech: maybe it's just a side effect of dual boot system?
[20:50] <de4dsnake> i have checked some instruction on the web, but they seem to complicated for me and not really applicable for kubuntu gutsy, can newone step me thru the installation?
[20:50] <BobSapp> !Twinview
[20:50] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[20:52] <de4dsnake> anyone, please?
[20:53] <dasKreech> podr0znik: not at all
[20:53] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: hardware or software raid0? if hardware, which hardware? And you are aware that with raid0 either of the drives breaking will wreck havoc on your system?
[20:53] <dasKreech> podr0znik: I can't right now tell you what the issue might be
[20:53] <podr0znik> I'll play a bit more here, try to install the previous version
[20:53] <podr0znik> let's see what's the result
[20:53] <podr0znik> same setting of course
[20:54] <dasKreech> podr0znik: you can shout in ##linux and see if someone knows but they have a low SNR
[20:54] <_4strO> yop yop
[20:55] <de4dsnake> Lynoure: yes im aware of the risk. Had raid 2 before and was unlucky to have both hard drive break within 3 days. Now after they were replaced i want to go for performance, since i wont have ne important data on those. Im not sure if its hardware or software, its intel matrix storage manager
[20:55] <podr0znik> SNR?
[20:56] <dasKreech> Signal to Noise Ratio
[20:56] <dasKreech> they talk a LOT in there
[20:56] <podr0znik> ok :) got the point
[20:57] <podr0znik> thanks, hope to be back later ;)
[20:58] <de4dsnake> Lynoure: how would i find out if its hardware or software?
[20:58] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: it's called fakeraid... there is some support for it, I think but since it's raid0 you want, sounds like a case for software raid.
[20:59] <de4dsnake> ok, so how do i tell grub that to be able to boot properly?
[20:59] <podr0znik> dasKreech: the filetype on which kubuntu is installed should be ext3, right?
[20:59] <snarkster> filetype??
[20:59] <snarkster> filesystem?
[20:59] <snarkster> it can be anything you want it to be, tho not recommended
[21:00] <podr0znik> yeah filesystem
[21:00] <podr0znik> sorry
[21:00] <podr0znik> ext3 not recommended?
[21:00] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: you already installed? hard to say without knowing your configurations
[21:00] <snarkster> Ext3, jfx, Xfs are the real supported filesystems
[21:00] <podr0znik> ah ok
[21:00] <snarkster> jfx = jfs
[21:00] <podr0znik> and mounted to /
[21:01] <snarkster> well your / will be one of those FS types.
[21:01] <de4dsnake> yeah i went thru kubuntu setup thru live cd, and then rebooted. Id like to tell u my configurations, but I would need to know which u would like to know?
[21:01] <podr0znik> that will be the ext3 I guess
[21:01] <snarkster> my / is ext3, while my /home is jfs
[21:01] <sigma_1234> !DualHead
[21:01] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[21:01] <podr0znik> the other 2 are the swap and the windows partition
[21:02] <podr0znik> ok, thank you all
[21:02] <podr0znik> gonna experiment
[21:02] <snarkster> ok
[21:02] <de4dsnake> Lynoure: ive got a dell dimension 9200, with two WDC Raptor 10000 rpm
[21:04] <Ayabara> I'm trying to get around is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118723 by installing a patched version of kmilo. Why isn't this bug fixed yet? It was first reported in june of last year...
[21:04] <viktor> is there a possibility to use two displays with different resolution?
[21:05] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: No... stuff like the errors you get now, what disk is the first disk, whether you used software raid or not, where did your grub go. But I reall hate grub troubleshooting and usually just recommend trying supergrub cd first.
[21:06] <SlimeyPete> Ayabara: no-one's found time I guess. You could ask in #ubuntu-bugs, maybe someone there will have some idea what the holdup is
[21:07] <Ayabara> SlimeyPete: ok. thanks for the tip
[21:07] <de4dsnake> Lynoure: whats super grub? the error i get is grub loading stage 1.5, please wait. Error 2, or something like that
[21:07] <de4dsnake> does grub have an irc channel btw?
[21:08] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: #grub
[21:08] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: 2 : "Selected disk doesn't exist"?
[21:11] <de4dsnake> Lynoure: all it says is "GRUB Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading, please wait... Error 2"
[21:11] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: you could check your bios for ide settings and try changing the UDMA/DMA modes
[21:12] <de4dsnake> ide settings? they are sata drives
[21:13] <Ayabara> how can I start kmilo?
[21:13] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: serial ata, like ata in general, is ide too...
[21:13] <Lynoure> de4dsnake: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7137
[21:13] <SlimeyPete> Lynoure: sata will always have DMA turned on though, AFAIK. HDParm doesn't even bother reporting DMA for SATA drives.
[21:14] <Lynoure> SlimeyPete: feel free to take over... it's almost sleep time and I was expecting him to want installation handholding, not grub troubleshoot
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> ick, grub.
[21:15] <de4dsnake> hmm i cant find those options in bios
[21:15] <Lynoure> SlimeyPete: UDMA modes could still mess it up, I think
[21:15] <kaminix> storage: 3557/15089664 files (31.2% non-contiguous), 15337893/30156840 blocks  <----- What does 31.2% non-contiguous mean?
[21:15] <SlimeyPete> I guess it's possible
[21:16] <Ayabara> is hotkey-setup in system services the same as kmilo?
[21:16] <SlimeyPete> kaminix: it means the file is spread out over the disk, in pieces
[21:16] <kaminix> Anyway to fix that SlimeyPete?
[21:16] <SlimeyPete> what filesystem?
[21:16] <kaminix> ext3
[21:17] <SlimeyPete> shouldn't need to, but there's probably an ext2/3 defragmenter available somewhere if you want to try it.
[21:17] <kaminix> I should just let it be then?
[21:17] <chaos_> hey is there a audio channel here?
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> kaminix: yeah, I would
[21:18] <chaos_> i need some help with mp3 converting
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> ext3 defrags itself as it goes, so it shouldn't generally get so bad as to cause problems
[21:18] <kaminix> Okay, thanks SlimeyPete :)
[21:18] <kaminix> chaos_, try soundKonverter
[21:19] <chaos_> i mean natively kubuntu doesnt seen to lsupport mp3s
[21:19] <chaos_> licenses or something
[21:19] <chaos_> ill dl it now
[21:19] <chaos_> do you have much experience with the creative 'zen' mp3-video players?
[21:20] <chaos_> thanks for the advice
[21:20] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: sata and ide in the same system?
[21:20] <SlimeyPete> s/ide/pata
[21:20] <de4dsnake> no, just to sata drives
[21:20] <de4dsnake> two*
[21:20] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[21:20] <BobSapp> I mix sata+ide
[21:20] <de4dsnake> exactly same model
[21:21] <SlimeyPete> I would suggest hitting 'e' on the grub menu. Then hit 'e' again (I think) to edit the 'boot' line, try different combinations of 0 and 1, see what works. It's possible that grubs looking at the wrong disk.
[21:22] <SlimeyPete> I know there's a bug which causes this to happen when you mix sata and pata, maybe it can occur with just sata too.
[21:22] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: it doesnt get to the grub menu
[21:22] <SlimeyPete> oh right
[21:22] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[21:23] <de4dsnake> what i think is happening it doesnt find the partition/drive specified in the mbr
[21:23] <chaos_> is there a way to be on two irc servers at the same time?
[21:23] <chaos_> two konversations?
[21:23] <de4dsnake> i also found suspicious that kubuntu live cd was seeing both driver as individuals. not sure if thats normal for raid 0
[21:23] <dan__> hello
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: sounds possible.  Might be worth booting livecd, mounting hd, fiddling with drive numbers in grub config files and then runing grub-install against the hard disk
[21:24] <dan__> quick question
[21:24] <SlimeyPete> maybe it was misconfigured when it was installed to the mbr
[21:24] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: can u walk me through that?
[21:24] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: im a noob with linux/ ubuntu/ grub
[21:25] <dan__> I'm trying to install Kmuddy on Gutsy. I get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54248/. I installed the KDE desktop, and still got the error when I tried configuring in a KDE session
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: tricky, I haven't done it in a while. However I can tell you generally what you want to do if you give me a second to type it.
[21:25] <BobSapp> !Emeralt
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emeralt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:25] <BobSapp> !Emerald
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <kim_> heya, i did something strange and now kdm wont log me in. it goes to a black screen and then flicks back to the login screen. anyone got any ideas?
[21:27] <BobSapp> kim_: what were you doing last?
[21:27] <kim_> BobSapp: the only thing out of the ordinary i did was delete /tmp one day
[21:28] <kim_> i cant think of anything else :\
[21:28] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: assuming your HD device is /dev/sda and your root partition is /dev/sda1:   1: mount hard disk ("sudo mkdir /media/hd; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/hd"), 2: edit the device.map in /boot/grub, 3: run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[21:28] <BobSapp> kim:did you delete the whole directory?
[21:28] <chaos_> any ideas
[21:28] <kim_> BobSapp: yes. is that bad?
[21:28] <BobSapp> kim_: yeah you should really have a /tmp directory
[21:28] <BobSapp> kde and alot of other programs use it
[21:28] <kim_> BobSapp: oh no, i only deleted teh concents of the directory, sorry
[21:29] <BobSapp> oh ok
[21:29] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: your HD device may be different, it depends on your system. You'll want to try changing the number in device.map, but I don't know how to figure out whato change it to (you might just have to se trial and error)
[21:29] <BobSapp> just the contents is ok unless it was in use
[21:29] <BobSapp> go to a console and type startx
[21:29] <de4dsnake> well one of the drivers is sda and the other sdb
[21:29] <de4dsnake> i think ubuntu installed on sda
[21:30] <kim_> BobSapp: server already active for diaply 0. whats the best way to kill it?
[21:30] <BobSapp> hmm
[21:30] <BobSapp> maybe you have it running but you switched out of it
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> ok, well, you'll want to change 0 to 1 or vice-versa in device.map I imagine, if you have just two drives
[21:30] <kim_> BobSapp: yeah KDM is running. it just wont let me log in
[21:30] <BobSapp> kim_: press CTRL+ALT+F7
[21:30] <BobSapp> eh
[21:31] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: but those two drivers are supposed to be on raid0
[21:31] <SlimeyPete> ah
[21:31] <de4dsnake> drives*
[21:31] <BobSapp> kim_: so you can see the kdm greeter?
[21:31] <kim_> BobSapp: it just takes me to a black screen and blinks back again. it obviously tries, as if i type in the wrong password it ays though though
[21:31] <kim_> BobSapp: yeah
[21:31] <BobSapp> oh
[21:31] <Ayabara> anyone at all running kubuntu on a laptop with kmilo working? it's not working for me, and I find _no_ way to configure it...
[21:31] <SlimeyPete> well, I'm not sure whether RAID queers the equation or not
[21:32] <BobSapp> sorry kim_ i dont know any more than that
[21:32] <kim_> BobSapp: no probs, thanks anyway :)
[21:32] <BobSapp> you could try reinstalling kde but that would probably break something else
[21:32] <kim_> maybe reinstall kdm?
[21:32] <kim_> hmm
[21:36] <dasKreech> chaos_: Hit F2 join a ner server
[21:37] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: i went it the device.map inside the mounted partition (sda1). Ive got (hd0) /dev/sda, (hd1) /dev/sdb, (hd2) /dev/sdc
[21:37] <sd32> sometimes when i try to logout, the screen goes black and then freezes and wont return to the login screen until i reboot
[21:38] <SlimeyPete> sdc? Oh, probably your DVD drive. Hmm, well write down the current values and then try setting /dev/sda to 1 and /dev/sda to 0, then do grub-install.
[21:39] <dasKreech> s/ner/new
[21:39] <chaos_> f2?
[21:39] <chaos_> only one at atime though?
[21:40] <chaos_> use a different progam. simseutanesuly ?
[21:41] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: was i right to edit the device.map on the mounted partition or was i supposed to do it on the virtual drive of the live cd?
[21:43] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: that's... a good question. I suspect you'll need to edit the livecd one.
[21:44] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: also, use "sudo grub-install --root-directory /mount/hd/boot/grub/ /dev/sda
[21:44] <de4dsnake> SlimeyPete: the live cd one doesnt actually exist
[21:44] <de4dsnake> (i just found out)
[21:45] <SlimeyPete> Ah. Hrm. That's thrown me a bit to be honest.
[21:45]  * SlimeyPete racks brains, tries to remember how he did it
[21:45] <de4dsnake> :)
[21:45] <SlimeyPete> de4dsnake: when the livecd booted did it give you an option to boot an existing installation?
[21:46] <de4dsnake> no
[21:46] <SlimeyPete> I think that's what I did, but it might require the Alternate CD
[21:46] <SlimeyPete> bah, might need the Alternate CD then, sorry. You can download it from the website but it's 700MB as usual.
[21:47] <de4dsnake> that would take ages
[21:47] <de4dsnake> hmm
[21:47] <SlimeyPete> you might want to just note down what I've said, explore other options if you can find any and the try the alt cd as a last resort, sorry
[21:48] <josh__> im trying to use kfilereplace to replace any file with a comma in the name can someone help me with a string to use
[21:48] <de4dsnake> ok then, thanks a lot for your help
[21:49] <toxop1asma> is there a way to set the left margin in konsole?
[21:49] <SlimeyPete> left margin?
[21:50] <toxop1asma> yes. so that the text doesn't start right at the edge
[21:51] <SlimeyPete> Oh right. Hmm, don't think so.
[21:52] <toxop1asma> are there other commonly used terminal emulators for kubuntu?
[21:53] <SlimeyPete> toxop1asma: not really, but any terminal emulator will work. rxvt and gnome-terminal are quite popular.
[21:54] <toxop1asma> ok. thanks!
[22:06] <bascule> anyone know a workaround for amarok taking about 5 mins per tune tranferring to an ipod (5th gen 30GB Video)
[22:17] <shagy> bella
[22:18] <shagy> buona sera
[22:18] <shagy> ho una domanda da farvi
[22:19] <shagy> c'è qualcuno che è disposto ad aiutarmiA?
[22:19] <tzanger> this might be a far shot, but is anyone in here from Montreal?
[22:19] <magical_trevsky> shagy, /join #ubuntu-it
[22:22] <kim_> heya, i did something strange and now kdm wont log me in. it goes to a black screen and then flicks back to the login screen. anyone got any ideas?
[22:25] <Dhraakellian> can the DVD do an alternate install?
[22:29] <gregory_> /quit
[22:36] <tzanger> hmm, does 7.10 not do the -lowlatency series of kernels?
[22:37] <crimsun> no.  There's -rt instead.
[22:37] <tzanger> ahh okay I wasn't sure if RT was something special or not
[22:37] <tzanger> not sure if I need it, but headsetd (alsa-bluetooth) is causing kernel crashes every now and again
[22:38] <tzanger> I know it's not a RT issue, but maybe a slightly different kernel shuffles enough around that I might be able to avoid it
[22:38] <crimsun> that's the BT stack and not related to -rt vice -generic.
[22:50] <BobSapp> does kde support xinerama?
[22:50] <BobSapp> cause my xserver seems to think its sending the info from the nvidia driver
[22:51] <BobSapp> but windows still maximise across both screens
[22:55] <Zombocom> hey
[22:56] <Zombocom> how do I change the cursor theme for the boot screen
[22:56] <Zombocom> I mean the login screen
[22:56] <Tmas> has anyone gotten sound to work on a ati SB450 HDA sound card?
[23:00] <Zombocom> !cursor
[23:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:00] <Zombocom> !mouse
[23:00] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[23:01] <fildo> !hardy
[23:01] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:03] <BluesKaj> Tmas, have you setup alsamixer and kmix ?
[23:06] <BobSapp> !xinerama
[23:06] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[23:06] <BobSapp> need a kde specific xinerama help
[23:06] <crazy_bus> I have a sansa e200 which I connected.  My kubuntu isn't coming up with a folder when I plug it in
[23:07] <BluesKaj> !xinerama
[23:07] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[23:09] <acee1234> when i try to make kgpg keys it fails with a bunch of permission denied errors
[23:09] <acee1234> any ideas
[23:09] <crazy_bus> I changed the usb moe and it now works
[23:11] <andres_> Im new and i want to boot from the live cd, but it says "Prermission denied" can anyone help me?
[23:11] <icewaterman> can someone please tell me what runlevels and at what number hdparm runs?
[23:11] <icewaterman> find /etc/rc*|grep -i hdparm
[23:11] <ol_dude67> andres_, are you trying to open it in windows?
[23:11] <feierfox> hi
[23:12] <feierfox> i'm looking for a tool to find double-files and to auto-delete them
[23:12] <BluesKaj> feierfox, duplicate files ?
[23:13] <andres_> no, im booting directly when turning on the computer
[23:13] <feierfox> yes
[23:13] <feierfox> duplicates
[23:13] <BluesKaj> !duplicate
[23:13] <feierfox> !duplicate
[23:13] <feierfox> :(
[23:14] <BluesKaj> !files
[23:14] <acee1234> anyone able to use kgpg? i cant seem to make a key set
[23:14] <feierfox> :/
[23:14] <ol_dude67> he got booted
[23:14] <BluesKaj> !info duplicates
[23:15] <BluesKaj> hmm , i guess ubotu is on leave today
[23:15] <BluesKaj> !ubotu
[23:15] <icewaterman> can someone plz do find /etc/rc*|grep -i hdparm and paste me the output?
[23:16] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, I did already ..nothing
[23:16] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: maybe you dont have hdparm installed
[23:17] <icewaterman> acee1234: i use kgpg and it works fine
[23:17] <linchapulin> !kde4 |linchapulin
[23:17] <linchapulin> !kde
[23:18] <sigma16> yo
[23:18] <acee1234> icewaterman: when i use it i get a bunch of permission denied errors
[23:18] <sigma16> can any 1 help me with bind
[23:18] <linchapulin> Ok so is kde4 broken? I tried installing into a default Ubuntu Gutsy Gnome install...I see an option, but it complains about a missing kde binary?
[23:18] <snarkster> why do you need to use bind??
[23:18] <sigma16> snarkster: webserver pc...
[23:18] <snarkster> i see..
[23:19] <snarkster> and you don tknow how to use bind?
[23:19] <snarkster> have you tried man bind?
[23:19] <andres_> I get a lot of permission denied error when trying to boot from livecd, what can it be?
[23:19]  * linchapulin wonders why it is necessary to run ones own DNS?
[23:19] <sigma16> snarkster: im new to linux idk how to configure bind..
[23:20] <sigma16> linchapulin: i own and code a couple of websites that are expensive to have on a dedicated server..
[23:20] <linchapulin> snarkster:: First off what kind of internet connection to you have?
[23:20] <linchapulin> *do*
[23:20] <sigma16> linchapulin: im the one who needed bind help..
[23:21] <snarkster> I have a cable connection
[23:21] <linchapulin> snarkster:: Sorry wrong person...
[23:21] <Sleepless--> I've added a soundcard (creative sb live) to a machine (running kubuntu gutsy) that didn't have one before, loaded the driver (modprobe emuk10k1), logged out and back in but i don't have any sound yet. kmixer says the mixer cannot be found. what should i do to get audio working?
[23:21] <snarkster> and Im not the one asking about bind
[23:21] <snarkster> sigma16 open a konsole and type man bind
[23:22] <linchapulin> sigma16:: Then all you really need to do is to setup DNS through like dyndns, zoneedit or the like....you can create your own mx records on their dns servers...
[23:22] <crazy_bus> I have a mp3 player.it's set to owner: can view and modify permissions.  Owner is set to my username.  But I can't write to it.  What do I do?
[23:22] <sigma16> no manual bind entry
[23:22] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, it's hdparm is for intel systems ...amd here.
[23:22] <snarkster> bind isnt installed
[23:22] <sigma16> snarkster: bind9 is...
[23:22] <fildo> i run a local dns
[23:23] <sigma16> snarkster: it isnt running cuz of errors...
[23:23] <snarkster> i just did sudo spt-get install bind and got:
[23:23] <snarkster> Package bind is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceHowever the following packages replace it:  dnsutils bind9E: Package bind has no installation candidate
[23:23] <BluesKaj> !sound | Sleepless--
[23:23] <ubotwo> Sleepless--: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:23] <sigma16> fildo: help me set it up?
[23:23] <fildo> has anyone here upgraded to hardy ?
[23:24] <fildo> sigma16:  sorry mate, got more important stuff to do
[23:24] <snarkster> I have never personally used bind
[23:24] <snarkster> try google
[23:24] <sigma16> snarkster: google = crap...
[23:24] <fildo> !bing
[23:24] <ubotwo> Factoid bing not found
[23:24] <fildo> !binf
[23:24] <fildo> !bind
[23:24] <ubotwo> Factoid binf not found
[23:24] <ubotwo> Factoid bind not found
[23:24] <fildo> lol
[23:24] <LjL> !botabuse | fildo
[23:24] <ubotwo> fildo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[23:25] <acee1234> whenever i try to create a kgpg i get a lot of permission denied errors the following inclusive: gpg: can't open `/home/tessaract/.gnupg/random_seed': Permission denied
[23:25] <snarkster> www.bind.org/
[23:25] <acee1234> any ideas
[23:25] <snarkster> www.bind9.net/
[23:25] <de4dsnake> !dmraid
[23:25] <ubotwo> Factoid dmraid not found
[23:27] <Agent_bob> what could cause /etc/init.d/syslog start to hang a system ?
[23:28] <Sleepless--> BluesKaj: aplay says no soundcards are found, yet the driver is loaded (lsmod shows it). lspci shows the card just fine. The kde sound system is enabled btw. aumix and alsamixer also fail to open. Maybe my card is broken (it's an old dusty one)?
[23:28] <snarkster> gotta go
[23:29] <BluesKaj> Sleepless--, try this : cat /proc/asound/cards
[23:30] <Sleepless--> says no soundcards
[23:31] <Agent_bob> i don't understand it. i can run the script after init hands control over to getty, but for some reason it hangs the system when init tries to run it.     "and it's the last thing starting..."
[23:31] <BluesKaj> Sleepless--, lspci | grep audio   ?
[23:32] <Agent_bob> lshw -c audio   ?
[23:32] <Sleepless--> BluesKaj: found the problem, it *does not* show up in lspci, sorry i messed up
[23:32] <sigma16> whats thew cmd to run a progrm as admin via terminal sdesu?
[23:32] <tekteen> sudo
[23:33] <tekteen> !sudo
[23:33] <sigma16> no
[23:33] <ubotwo> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[23:33] <sigma16> i mean like
[23:33] <sigma16> to open it
[23:33] <tekteen> ?
[23:33] <BluesKaj> Sleepless--, then you have to install the soundcard linux driver if you can find it .
[23:33] <Agent_bob> sorry it's     lshw -C multimedia
[23:33] <sigma16> to open the program like for example kate
[23:33] <tekteen> explain
[23:33] <sigma16> as admin
[23:33] <sigma16> via terminal
[23:33] <tekteen> sudo nano FILE
[23:33] <sigma16> tekteen
[23:33] <sigma16> i dont weanna edit the flipin file in terminal
[23:33] <tekteen> or kdesu kate FILE
[23:33] <sigma16> i wanna edit it in kate.
[23:34] <sigma16> kdesu
[23:34] <sigma16> ty
[23:34] <andres_> Does anyone know why do i get permission denied errors when trying to boot from live cd?
[23:34] <LjL> !enter | sigma16
[23:34] <ubotwo> sigma16: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:34] <Sleepless--> BluesKaj: /proc/interrupts doesn't show it either, i think the card might be broken. i have another card so i'll try that one
[23:34] <sigma16> LjL: no...ty..
[23:34] <Agent_bob> sigma16 diss'ing the ops will only get you kicked.
[23:34] <BluesKaj> andres_,maybe you don't have the BIOS boot sequence setup to boot from the cdrom first
[23:36] <bmk789> !arson
[23:36] <ubotwo> Factoid arson not found
[23:36] <bmk789> !info arson
[23:36] <andres_> Yes, i havet to boot from cdrom first
[23:36] <sigma16> Agent_bob: i said no ty... thats not "dissing"
[23:36] <LjL> !info doesn't work
[23:36] <ubotwo> Package doesnt does not exist in gutsy
[23:37] <bmk789> :\
[23:37] <ol_dude67> andres_, are you on a network computer or personal one?
[23:37] <sigma16> !paste >sigma16
[23:38] <Agent_bob> LjL what happened to ubotu ?
[23:39] <LjL> Agent_bob: it's down.
[23:39] <andres_> I am in a personal computer
[23:40] <ol_dude67> andres_, and it says you do not have permission, from the bios?
[23:40] <Agent_bob> well that's obvious.   i wondered if there was a script attack that took it down or just what happened...
[23:41] <andres_> it only says "permission denied" a several times. It says nothing else
[23:41] <andres_> it happens after the loading bar finishes to load
[23:42] <Agent_bob> andres_ not running short or ram is it ?
[23:42] <Agent_bob> or = of
[23:42] <andres_> no, i have 1.3 gigs
[23:43] <Agent_bob> ok.
[23:44] <Agent_bob> then either you have a bad disk, or a buggy disk i would think.   the only other thing i can think of is that it's trying to write on your hdd   (which i would consider a bug)
[23:45] <Agent_bob> liveCD should totally ignore hdd by default, until the user tries to access an fs on the hd
[23:45] <andres_> i tried Ubuntu, kubuntu and Linux mint, all 3 have the same problem, but OpenSuse and Pclinuxos load allright
[23:45] <linux_galore> what is the url for the website that helps you create a sources.conf file
[23:45] <Agent_bob> not that the ubuntu team would agree with me on that !
[23:45] <Sleepless--> BluesKaj: the other card works fine, just stuck it in and kubuntu figured the rest out automatically. thanks for trying to help :)
[23:45] <linux_galore> !sources.conf
[23:45] <ubotwo> Factoid sources.conf not found
[23:46] <BluesKaj> Sleepless--, cool :)
[23:46] <Agent_bob> andres_ if you like live CD's you should try knoppix
[23:46] <linux_galore> !source.conf
[23:46] <ubotwo> Factoid source.conf not found
[23:46] <andres_> Thanks, i will try it, but i was hoping to try Kubuntu and Ubuntu :(
[23:46] <LjL> !source-o-magic | linux_galore
[23:46] <ubotwo> Factoid source-o-magic not found
[23:46] <LjL> bleah
[23:46] <LjL> !source-o-matic | linux_galore
[23:47] <ubotwo> linux_galore: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[23:47] <Agent_bob> andres_ if you want to install ubuntu  try the alternate install sd
[23:47] <Agent_bob> cd
[23:48] <BluesKaj> bummer about source-o-matic :(
[23:48] <andres_> But if the Livecd doesnt work, i might have the same problem once installed on the hard drive
[23:48] <Agent_bob> andres_ true you might.  but it's not as likely.
[23:49] <nemetsk> anyone knowledgeable of foreign character display issues? my files with german characters in the filename don't show up (no matter what software i'm using to find them) [<-- doze emigrant]
[23:50] <nemetsk> i'd appreciate any insight on that.
[23:50] <Agent_bob> ls doesn't list them ?
[23:51] <epimeth> good evening fellows
[23:51] <epimeth> does anyone have experience with using vpnc?
[23:51] <nemetsk> Agent_bob: correct. its as if they don't exist.
[23:52] <nemetsk> i know they're there - windows shows them. then again they were created/named under windows (which might mean something idk)
[23:52] <Agent_bob> nemetsk then i'm at a loss on what to try.     (i don't do windows)
[23:52] <epimeth> nemetsk: I'm dual booting... need something?
[23:53] <nemetsk> Agent_bob ok bob thx anyway
[23:53] <nemetsk> epimeth: yeah my deal is files with german characters in their name won't appear in ubuntu ( no matter what program i'm using )
[23:53] <nemetsk> epimeth: any ideas ?
[23:53] <ahmos> hi, how to install   /msg ubotu java PLZ
[23:54] <Agent_bob> ahmos ubotu is down. try ubotow
[23:54] <AMcBain> Hi! Is there any way to get the clock in Kubunu to display 12 hour time? with AM/PM?
[23:54] <ahmos> ok ,how?!
[23:54] <AMcBain> I couldn't find any settings for it.
[23:54] <Agent_bob> !java
[23:54] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[23:55] <Agent_bob> AMcBain it's in the language section
[23:55] <epimeth> nemetsk: its an encoding problem... I really don't know much about that
[23:56] <AMcBain> Agent_bob: You know, I never thought to look there. Stupid me.
[23:56] <epimeth> nemetsk: I've had problems with hebrew files, but those seems to be pretty much fixed at this point
[23:57] <AMcBain> Well, next (and last item) is there a program to allow me to rearrange program icons on the taskbar. Not the system-tray. All the open window icons.
[23:57] <Agent_bob> well a file system that allows \n in file names is bound to have problems with some i18
[23:58] <nemetsk> epimeth: hmmmm. i only boot into nix. is there a utility maybe pre-nix-boot that i can use to rename them? lol i really dont want to have to put doze back in just to rename some files
[23:58] <AMcBain> I tried to make a folder this morning with / in it. It took it, but it didn't work too well.
[23:58] <AMcBain> I had to rename it.
[23:58] <AMcBain> :P
[23:58] <Agent_bob> AMcBain you can have it group/(or not) and sort/(or not) automaticly   but i'm not aware of a manual reordering methood
[23:58] <epimeth> nemetsk: heh... not that I am aware of
[23:59] <epimeth> nemetsk: so the files don't appear at all?  or do they appear as spaces?
[23:59] <Agent_bob> AMcBain you can't have   / in a file name
[23:59] <AMcBain> Yes you can. The OS just treats it as two folders.
[23:59] <AMcBain> And everything turns nasty.
[23:59] <AMcBain> I did it with Dolphin.
[23:59] <AMcBain> by accident.
[23:59] <Agent_bob> then dolphin has a bug and should be reported