| Ubulette | bug 184740 | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 184740 in firefox-3.0 "Rendering Issue w/ http://gatech.edu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184740 | 00:00 |
| [reed] | the only X issue that I consistently see is mozilla bug 263160 | 00:00 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 263160 in Widget: Gtk "frames open in new windows leaving the firefox window unusable" [Critical,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263160 | 00:01 |
| asac | [reed]: you see that? never had it | 00:01 |
| asac | [reed]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=290366 ... the gecko area sometimes looks that way though | 00:02 |
| [reed] | yeah, I see it all the time | 00:02 |
| asac | like what you have in on of those windows | 00:02 |
| asac | [reed]: on ubuntu? | 00:02 |
| [reed] | yes | 00:02 |
| asac | with our package? | 00:02 |
| [reed] | package of what? firefox? I don't use your firefox. | 00:04 |
| [reed] | your firefox is old | 00:04 |
| [reed] | :) | 00:04 |
| [reed] | I use nightlies or my own builds | 00:04 |
| asac | [reed]: well the bug is old too | 00:04 |
| [reed] | yeah | 00:04 |
| [reed] | and I hit it yesterday | 00:04 |
| [reed] | it has to do with lots of frames | 00:04 |
| [reed] | a page with a ton of iframes that refresh a lot will cause it | 00:05 |
| asac | welll they say with excess memory comsumption as well | 00:05 |
| asac | you have any such page? | 00:05 |
| [reed] | http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/Firefox/ <-- open about 10+ copies of that | 00:06 |
| [reed] | that page is full of iframes | 00:06 |
| asac | ok ... goodbye ;) | 00:06 |
| asac | [reed]: in tabs or new windows? | 00:06 |
| [reed] | tabs will work | 00:07 |
| [reed] | usually I have lots of other tabs open | 00:07 |
| [reed] | too | 00:07 |
| [reed] | and about 5-10 tinderbox windows | 00:07 |
| [reed] | because I open tinderbox so many times | 00:07 |
| [reed] | :) | 00:07 |
| asac | okk ... i will open until it consumes 80% of memory :) | 00:08 |
| Ubulette | 55 tabs + 6 tinderbox, still ok here | 00:08 |
| asac | do you do anything special? | 00:08 |
| asac | or just open? | 00:08 |
| asac | [reed]: are you running gutsy? | 00:09 |
| Ubulette | ff3 is ~9.5% mem | 00:09 |
| asac | Ubulette: in the bug the guy says that it needs to be >60% | 00:10 |
| asac | hard to get that high | 00:11 |
| [reed] | yes, gutsy | 00:11 |
| [reed] | tinderbox refreshes every 10 min. | 00:12 |
| [reed] | it only happens when tinderbox does a meta refresh | 00:12 |
| [reed] | we need a better test case | 00:12 |
| [reed] | basically, a page with a ton of iframes on it | 00:12 |
| [reed] | that has a short meta refresh | 00:12 |
| [reed] | like every 15 sec. or so | 00:12 |
| asac | well ... that should be fairly simple ... just injecting 100K by javascript or so :) | 00:13 |
| asac | where do they need to point to ? | 00:13 |
| [reed] | dunno, make up some page? I don't think it matters | 00:14 |
| Ubulette | at work, i see the corrupted display with a single tab, no refresh | 00:15 |
| Ubulette | eg: here http://www.topachat.com/accueil/index.php | 00:15 |
| Ubulette | but at home it's perfect | 00:15 |
| Ubulette | nvidia | 00:16 |
| asac | Ubulette: thats the background, isn't it? | 00:26 |
| Ubulette | hm, yes | 00:26 |
| Ubulette | what do you see ? | 00:26 |
| asac | is that transparent ... or has alpha channel? | 00:26 |
| asac | welll ... while construction and scrolling it looks completely corrupted. but the non-background elements get rendered properly | 00:27 |
| asac | but the background stays corrupted | 00:27 |
| Ubulette | here it's fine, at work, it's like you | 00:27 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/corrupted.png | 00:29 |
| Ubulette | oh, epiphany too ? | 00:30 |
| asac | hmm ... i have now 1000 iframes ... takes ages to construct | 00:30 |
| asac | yes ... appears gecko | 00:30 |
| asac | my firefox is currently utilized by frame test:) | 00:30 |
| asac | Ubulette: i have the standard lame packages from hardy ... you likely run the latest? | 00:32 |
| Ubulette | my ppa has a fresh xulrunner-1.9 1.9~b3~cvs20080130t1344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1; it's just built, i'm upgrading | 00:33 |
| asac | Ubulette: wierd ... my ffox doesnt have the problem :) | 00:34 |
| asac | just ephy | 00:34 |
| asac | same xul | 00:34 |
| asac | you sure you saw that on ffox? | 00:34 |
| asac | for me it looks like the background window is stale ... e.g.just doesn't redraw anymore | 00:36 |
| asac | looks somewhat similiar what you get for the whole window if the app blocks the ui thread | 00:36 |
| asac | and resize | 00:36 |
| asac | but here its just the background :) | 00:36 |
| Ubulette_ | i remember it worked fine a while ago on the same box | 00:37 |
| [reed] | asac: are they meta refreshing? | 00:39 |
| asac | i don't think so ... at least it happens when opening for the first time | 00:40 |
| [reed] | no, your frame test | 00:40 |
| asac | right ... that wasa my next try ... not that many frames, but meta-refreshing :) | 00:40 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.html | 00:49 |
| asac | 10 iframes with tinderboxes refreshing | 00:49 |
| asac | lets try to utilize system more, by building :) | 00:52 |
| asac | -j10 | 00:53 |
| asac | no idea ... whatever i do, it doesn't happen (of course :)) :) | 01:00 |
| asac | [reed]: maybe you should try hardy | 01:00 |
| asac | and see if its fixed in latest X | 01:01 |
| Ubulette_ | waaoo, the UI changed a lot in the last few days | 01:15 |
| cheguevara | screeny? | 01:15 |
| Ubulette_ | in fact, it seems it has wiped out my toolbar preferences | 01:17 |
| cheguevara | ... | 01:17 |
| Ubulette_ | i've just reorganized everything | 01:17 |
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| cheguevara | Ubulette, anything interesting in your new ppa updates today (cairo and nspr i think) | 01:18 |
| cheguevara | or just upsteream bumps? | 01:18 |
| Ubulette | and xul, i'm pushing ff3 right now so it will be all there in ~1h | 01:19 |
| Ubulette | I wanted to make ff3 appear in Preferred Applications but I can't remember how to do that | 01:21 |
| cheguevara | Ubulette, in kde or gnome? | 01:22 |
| Ubulette | gnome | 01:22 |
| cheguevara | no idea :P | 01:23 |
| Ubulette | ok, pushed. too bad ppa are so slow | 01:29 |
| cheguevara | heh | 01:30 |
| Ubulette | once pushed and accepted, nothing is moving for about 1h, then it enters the queue (often empty), builds and it needs ~15 more minutes to reach the archive. | 01:33 |
| asac | Ubulette: preferred apps are hard coded | 01:34 |
| Ubulette | really ? how come I have seamonkey in there ? | 01:34 |
| cheguevara | Ubulette, have patience :P | 01:34 |
| Ubulette | cheguevara, when I want to do a full rebuilt, that's a lot of patience. nspr -> nss -> xul -> ff3 that's about 6h | 01:37 |
| cheguevara | yeah true | 01:38 |
| Ubulette | locally, 1h is enough | 01:38 |
| asac | Ubulette: adjust depends probably, upload all at once and go play tennis :) | 01:38 |
| cheguevara | yeah locally you are the only one building :P | 01:38 |
| asac | s/probably/properly/ | 01:38 |
| Ubulette | ppa are idle most of the time | 01:38 |
| asac | rational is that often people recognize an error right after the upload and reupload | 01:39 |
| asac | so better wait a bit, before starting to build | 01:39 |
| asac | (enqueue) | 01:39 |
| Ubulette | i've pushed nspr, waited 1h30, pushed xul. result, xul has been built before nspr :( | 01:40 |
| asac | Ubulette: adjust Build-Depends (if not in bzr, then just for the upload) | 01:41 |
| asac | the buildd will set packages to auto-depends and will start builds in right sequence | 01:41 |
| asac | so you can just do dput *source.changes ... and go away for a few hours | 01:42 |
| Ubulette | yep, should do that but it's already a pain to keep changelog in sync | 01:42 |
| asac | no need to do that in bzr | 01:42 |
| asac | though its right thing to do in fact | 01:43 |
| asac | at least if you really require the version you are waiting for | 01:44 |
| Ubulette | i should write a script | 01:45 |
| Ubulette | i will | 01:45 |
| asac | ok, so not in bzr? | 01:47 |
| Ubulette | maybe in bzr, why not, it's a dedicated branch | 01:48 |
| Ubulette | ok, maybe i'll patch gnome-control-center tomorrow | 01:51 |
| Ubulette | it's in capplets/default-applications/gnome-default-applications.xml.in | 01:52 |
| Ubulette | asac, if you want to play: http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/?date=20080129: it says "supported xulrunner 1.9 detection" | 01:53 |
| Ubulette | kaze needs love, it's no longer installable | 01:54 |
| Ubulette | kazehakase: Depends: ruby (< 1.9.0) but 4.1 is to be installed | 01:54 |
| Ubulette | asac, didn't you push totem ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox/+bug/187113 | 02:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 187113 in firefox-3.0 "[Hardy] Firefox-3.0 crashes when playing Apple Trailers" [Undecided,New] | 02:04 |
| asac | Ubulette: have a wiki account? | 02:05 |
| Ubulette | who? | 02:06 |
| cheguevara | you :P | 02:06 |
| asac | Ubulette: totem wasn't updated (by me) | 02:06 |
| Ubulette | i never used my wiki page on w.u.c | 02:08 |
| asac | do you have an account? | 02:08 |
| asac | try to edit a page ... press preview | 02:08 |
| asac | i see the corruption that way in firefox + ephy | 02:08 |
| Ubulette | i've tried with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives no problem | 02:10 |
| asac_ | Ubulette: you have EXA or XAA as accelmethod? maybe that makes a diff? | 02:46 |
| cheguevara | i don't see any corruption also (in case it matters), using XAA | 02:47 |
| asac_ | cheguevara: when doing a previe in wiki? | 02:48 |
| cheguevara | actually i didn't try preview | 02:48 |
| cheguevara | sec | 02:48 |
| cheguevara | asac_, looks fine | 02:49 |
| cheguevara | where exactly is the corruption | 02:49 |
| asac_ | in the frame where the preview of the document should be | 02:50 |
| asac_ | e.g. scroll down a bit | 02:50 |
| asac_ | damn ... still had london time ... got to go to bed | 02:50 |
| cheguevara | sec asac_ upping screeny | 02:51 |
| cheguevara | asac_, http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5lg0.png | 02:52 |
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| shirish | Ubulette: u still there m8? | 03:30 |
| asac | cheguevara: yes you don't see corruption | 09:20 |
| armin76 | asac: www.everex.com | 10:28 |
| asac | looks ok | 10:33 |
| asac | ooo will probably eat allmem though | 10:33 |
| armin76 | rofl | 11:02 |
| * armin76 kicks asac | 11:02 | |
| armin76 | i'm not talking to you about the laptop! | 11:02 |
| armin76 | that page has the problem with the images | 11:02 |
| armin76 | when using XAA | 11:02 |
| asac | armin76: is it gone with EXA? | 11:07 |
| armin76 | yep | 11:08 |
| armin76 | at least with intel + ati | 11:08 |
| armin76 | =>intel-2.2.0 uses EXA by default | 11:08 |
| asac | you tested both ... ok | 11:08 |
| armin76 | i'm talking about open source drivers | 11:08 |
| armin76 | with vesa it doesn't happen | 11:08 |
| asac | i have that with fglrx ... and that shiity driver doesnt support EXA :) | 11:09 |
| armin76 | http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/mozilla/wiki/StuffBroken | 11:09 |
| * armin76 updates | 11:09 | |
| asac | ok ... then i don't bother the XAA issue is known afaict | 11:09 |
| asac | thanks for checking | 11:09 |
| asac | and it looks lke the corrupted image i uploaded yesterday? | 11:10 |
| armin76 | what image? | 11:12 |
| armin76 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.html | 11:12 |
| armin76 | this? | 11:12 |
| asac | nbo | 11:13 |
| asac | http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/corrupted.png | 11:13 |
| asac | look at background | 11:13 |
| armin76 | err, no | 11:14 |
| armin76 | the issue i'm talking about is the black rectangles on images :P | 11:15 |
| asac | screen? | 11:15 |
| armin76 | http://dev.gentoo.org/~maekke/ff3-image.png | 11:15 |
| asac | armin76: thats ubuntu? | 11:16 |
| asac | or gentoo | 11:16 |
| asac | ... which xserver version are you running? | 11:16 |
| armin76 | gentoo 1.4.90.0 | 11:17 |
| armin76 | dude, you have a bug about it :P | 11:17 |
| armin76 | the nv thing? | 11:17 |
| armin76 | bug 182038 | 11:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182038 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "Black rectangle instead of image in FF3 [Hardy]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182038 | 11:17 |
| asac | dont read bugs atm ;) | 11:17 |
| asac | yes | 11:17 |
| asac | i know | 11:17 |
| asac | (now) | 11:18 |
| armin76 | oh, right, it doesn't happen with xorg-server 1.3 :) | 11:18 |
| armin76 | freedesktop bug 14210 | 11:18 |
| ubotu | Freedesktop bug 14210 in Driver/nVidia (open) "Zooming in Firefox3 breaks images" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14210 | 11:18 |
| asac | armin76: can you try if you get something similar as in my corrupted.png when you go to wiki page in ubuntu | 11:19 |
| asac | edit ... and then do preview? | 11:19 |
| asac | i could reproduce it that way in ffox + ephy | 11:20 |
| asac | while the screenshot i took was only ephy | 11:20 |
| asac | armin76: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/corrupted1.png | 11:21 |
| armin76 | i don't have an account :P | 11:21 |
| asac | moo | 11:22 |
| asac | create one ... its free ;) | 11:23 |
| asac | just need to know if its the same or something different that only exists on ati | 11:23 |
| armin76 | what xorg do you want me to test it? | 11:24 |
| asac | if you can reproduce it doesn't matter | 11:26 |
| asac | otherwise the current ubuntu if possible | 11:26 |
| asac | i think we are ahead of .90 | 11:26 |
| armin76 | with ati? | 11:27 |
| armin76 | need to emerge it first, won't take much... | 11:28 |
| asac | so 1h ? :-P | 11:40 |
| armin76 | less than that | 11:43 |
| armin76 | ia64 ftw | 11:43 |
| cheguevara | lol | 11:44 |
| cheguevara | its hard to use both ubuntu and gentoo | 11:45 |
| cheguevara | i caught myself running emerge -Davu world on ubuntu once | 11:45 |
| cheguevara | :P | 11:45 |
| asac | does gentoo unstable (whatever that is) ... receive as many updates daily as hardy currently does? | 11:48 |
| asac | i couldn't deal with that i guess ... my cpu cycles are scarce enough already ;) | 11:48 |
| cheguevara | no | 11:49 |
| cheguevara | i run gentoo unstable on my server | 11:49 |
| cheguevara | get about 1-2 updates a day | 11:49 |
| asac | armin76: do you just upgrade once during cycle? | 11:49 |
| asac | and develop somewhere outside of the main repo? | 11:50 |
| cheguevara | aka overlays :P | 11:50 |
| asac | its really bad ... i cannot find my gutsy security directory ... hmm | 11:51 |
| asac | did i do that in /tmp last time? | 11:51 |
| armin76 | hrm? | 11:51 |
| armin76 | i don't run unstable | 11:51 |
| cheguevara | asac, most bumps in gentoo are upstream bumps and in gentoo they are debian and ubuntu ones, thats why there's much less updates | 11:51 |
| cheguevara | armin76, do you know, if there are still active people from the web-apps herd? | 11:54 |
| armin76 | there are, slow, but there are | 11:54 |
| cheguevara | phpmyadmin bumb would be very nice | 11:55 |
| cheguevara | gentoo bug 206297 | 11:55 |
| cheguevara | may be you could ping wrobel or someone :P | 11:55 |
| cheguevara | or may be even the mysql team, though i bet robbat2 won't do it :P | 11:57 |
| armin76 | that bug is recently new :) | 11:58 |
| armin76 | asac: with EXA it works fine | 11:58 |
| asac | XAA? | 11:58 |
| cheguevara | asac, yeah but the thing itself came out on 2008-01-14 | 11:59 |
| cheguevara | plus according to changelog | 11:59 |
| cheguevara | bug #1847409 [security] Path disclosure on | 11:59 |
| cheguevara | darkblue_orange/layout.inc.php, | 11:59 |
| armin76 | same | 12:00 |
| armin76 | asac: ^ | 12:00 |
| armin76 | cheguevara: well, is there a security bug? | 12:00 |
| cheguevara | not a gentooone | 12:01 |
| cheguevara | there's even a CVE reference | 12:01 |
| cheguevara | last time i opened a phpmyadmin security bug was on 2007-11-11 | 12:04 |
| cheguevara | new version got added on 2007-12-02 | 12:04 |
| cheguevara | <no comments> | 12:04 |
| cheguevara | and that was sql injection + xss | 12:05 |
| Ubulette | hi | 12:42 |
| asac | hi | 12:43 |
| Ubulette | asac, at home (nvidia, no corruption at all): no XAA|EXA, at work (fglrx, background corruption), i have XAA | 12:43 |
| asac | yes | 12:44 |
| asac | did you try open source driver with EXA? | 12:44 |
| Ubulette | it can't do more than 800x600 so it's not usable for me | 12:44 |
| asac | damn | 12:54 |
| asac | ok my connection will be flaxky for 1.5 h nowe ... uploading a bunch | 13:01 |
| Ubulette | excellent: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2008/01/31#2008-01-31-vim-lpbug-omnicomplete | 13:10 |
| asac | "you a list of all the bugs open in Launchpad" | 13:12 |
| asac | wow | 13:12 |
| asac | it should try to guess some ggodmatches from changelog entry :) | 13:14 |
| Ubulette | good, mozilla bug 414747 is fixed. that was quick :) | 13:26 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 414747 in Extension/Theme Manager "Firefox crashes during Addons -> Find Update [@nsQueryInterface::operator()]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414747 | 13:26 |
| Ubulette | lol http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/01/30/packing-efficiency/ | 13:30 |
| Ubulette | btw, the font for that page is awful here. | 13:31 |
| asac | yeah | 13:32 |
| Ubulette | you too ? | 13:32 |
| asac | nope ... was about the blog | 13:33 |
| Ubulette | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff3-bad-font.png | 13:38 |
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| asac | looks like you don't have aa | 14:24 |
| asac | what a storm | 14:25 |
| Ubulette | i do for anything else. | 14:39 |
| Ubulette | asac, i've modified mozclient to support TAGs for nss and nspr, so DEBIAN_TAG=NSS_3_12_BETA1=3.12~beta1 produces nss_3.12~beta1.orig.tar.gz | 14:50 |
| asac | great | 14:53 |
| Ubulette | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Preferred-Applications.png | 15:30 |
| asac | fine | 15:47 |
| Ubulette | i've given my debdiff to seb128. I hope i'll use it | 15:48 |
| Ubulette | the storm is over paris now :0 | 15:50 |
| asac | yeah ... most likely ;) | 15:52 |
| cwong1 | asac: ping | 17:37 |
| asac | cwong1: yes? | 17:47 |
| cwong1 | cwong1: question on startup time. What do I need to do to make Midbrowser and Home Basic Flash pluin to share the same xulrunner? | 17:47 |
| cwong1 | s/cwong1/asac/ | 17:47 |
| asac | 1st. make home basic plash build against xulrunner-1.9 | 17:47 |
| cwong1 | ok | 17:48 |
| asac | a) use pkg-config --cflags --libs libxul-embedding | 17:48 |
| asac | include gtkmozembed_glue.cpp in main file | 17:48 |
| asac | then use xpcom glue code before calling any gtk_moz_embed function | 17:49 |
| armin76 | yay | 17:49 |
| armin76 | asac loves transmission | 17:49 |
| cwong1 | lol | 17:49 |
| asac | 2nd. build midbrowser like configure: --with-libxul-sdk=$(DEBIAN_XUL_DEV) | 17:50 |
| asac | with DEBIAN_XUL_DEV := $(shell echo /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9*) | 17:50 |
| Ubulette | asac, write that on a wiki page, that could help others ;) | 17:51 |
| asac | but then your changes outside of browser/ hierarchy are not used. | 17:51 |
| asac | (i will prepatch the gconf backend to our xulrunner ... whats left are the singleton hacks | 17:52 |
| asac | ) | 17:52 |
| asac | i would suggest to live with that regression for now | 17:52 |
| cwong1 | That sinleton hack is not needed anymore. We just just the hildon desktop to handle that. | 17:52 |
| asac | Ubulette: its on a wiki page XulrunnerGecko | 17:53 |
| cwong1 | s/just just /just fix/ | 17:53 |
| asac | cwong1: great | 17:53 |
| asac | then do the transition and live with the regression that gconf backend won't work till beta3 is out (we should then upgrade midbrowser as well) | 17:53 |
| asac | Ubulette: the page might deserve some love though | 17:54 |
| asac | cwong1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XulrunnerGecko | 17:54 |
| cwong1 | thanks | 17:54 |
| cwong1 | Btw, beta3 should be out in next couple of weeks, right? | 17:55 |
| asac | yes | 17:55 |
| asac | cwong1: the gecko startup code when using libxul-embedding-unstable looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4045/ | 17:55 |
| cwong1 | asac: ok, Thanks for the info. I will start looking at this. If I have question, I will contact you. | 17:58 |
| asac | cwong1: sure | 18:07 |
| Ubulette | asac, when does the freeze end ? | 18:13 |
| asac | which freeze ? | 18:13 |
| asac | ah alpha4? | 18:13 |
| Ubulette | yep | 18:13 |
| asac | once CDs are out | 18:13 |
| asac | maybe tonight ... or tomorrow | 18:14 |
| asac | (i would assume) | 18:14 |
| asac | just listen to chatter in -devel ... or join #ubuntu-release | 18:14 |
| asac | i think they moved release discussion there nowadays | 18:14 |
| asac | or #ubuntu-qa ... where they complain about CD breakage :) | 18:14 |
| asac | Ubulette: | 18:47 |
| asac | 19:40 < slangasek> stgraber: all ISOs should be posted now for testing, with the exception of xubuntu live which is waiting for livecd-rootfs propagation | 18:47 |
| asac | 19:41 < stgraber> slangasek: cool, thanks | 18:47 |
| Ubulette | ok | 18:47 |
| asac | so with some luck the announcement will go out today | 18:47 |
| Ubulette | that means it will be shipped with an almost broken nautilus | 18:48 |
| Ubulette | i wonder who uses those alpha CDs anyway | 18:48 |
| asac | well ... alpha releases are ok to be broken :) ... things just need to install and work somehow | 18:48 |
| asac | lots of people | 18:49 |
| asac | i regularly ask bug submitter to verify if their bug is gone | 18:49 |
| asac | (especially those that cannot efford to upgrade to hardy like them) | 18:49 |
| armin76 | i thought slangasek was a debian dev :D | 18:51 |
| asac | armin76: thats vorlon | 19:07 |
| armin76 | i thought he was a gentoo dev! | 19:07 |
| armin76 | j/k | 19:07 |
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| Ubulette | damn, seamonkey-trunk is broken. 180 files are missed by make install | 23:11 |
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