/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/31/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

MythbuntuGuest83hello, everyone01:15
MythbuntuGuest83I'm in need of some help.01:16
MythbuntuGuest83I have a PVR-500.  Tuner 1 is fine.  Tuner 2 records blackness.01:17
MythbuntuGuest83Any suggestions?01:17
agamottoAs stupid as this sounds, are you using the same channel lineup for both tuners?01:19
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest83, hmm01:24
MythbuntuGuest83Ha.  Yes, both have the same lineup01:25
tgm4883_laptopAre there more than 1 header on the card?01:25
tgm4883_laptopI had this same problem a few days ago, although I use SVideo inputs01:25
agamottoOk, that rules out the stupid, on to the odd... During the setup, did you set up the same bits for both tuners 0 and 1?01:26
tgm4883_laptopturns out I needed to be plugged into the second header, not the first01:26
MythbuntuGuest83Agamotto, I'm not sure what you mean by the same bit.01:26
agamottoWhen you set up the tuners, you set up a channel list, etc for tuner 0 and tuner 1?01:27
MythbuntuGuest83Agamotto, yes, both have a channel list.01:28
tgm4883_laptopI don't suppose you have a link to your specific card01:28
agamottoHmmm01:28
MythbuntuGuest83What sort of link?01:28
tgm4883_laptoplike if you ordered it off of newegg, that link.  That way we could tell exactly which one you have01:29
agamottoTry this, as odd as it sounds... take the lead/cable from tuner 0 and put it on tuner 1, see if anything appears on the screen01:29
MythbuntuGuest83Ah.  It's a Hauppauge PVR-500 with a samsung chip.01:30
WcktKlwnI wish the HVR-1600 was supported01:30
MythbuntuGuest83Agamotto, my card only has one input connection.01:31
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest83, how are you hooked up to your card?  With coax, svideo, composite, etc?01:31
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest83, where did you get this card?01:32
agamottoNow that is funny, as Hauppauge assured me in an email recently that the WinTV HVR-1800 would work with Mythbuntu01:33
MythbuntuGuest83Amazon, but it's not new.  It previously worked on my Ubuntu Feisty Mythtv setup.01:33
MythbuntuGuest83The card receives it's signal with coax cable.01:33
agamottoMythbuntuGuest83:  I would have to say that I am stumped then.01:33
WcktKlwnagamotto, I believe the 1800 uses the same chipset, and it's limited support in linux right now01:33
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest83, AFAIK, you can only record 1 channel per hookup01:34
agamottoHrm01:34
MythbuntuGuest83No, the card has an internal splitter.  My previous Feisty setup recorded two shows at once.01:35
agamottoNow that would be odd.  MythTv confirms that there are two tuners that it sees?01:36
tgm4883_laptophmm01:36
MythbuntuGuest83Yes, it sees both.01:36
agamottoSpeaking of questions:  Does anyone know if any of the USB stick tuners works with Mythbuntu?01:36
tgm4883_laptopand you set the card up twice in mythtv-setup, one set to /dev/video0 and one set to /dev/video1?01:36
agamottoNow that is truly odd01:36
MythbuntuGuest83tgm, that's right.01:37
WcktKlwnagamotto, nvm, it's a different chipset, which is supported01:37
WcktKlwnhttp://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-180001:37
agamottonvm?01:38
WcktKlwnnevermind01:41
agamottoahhhh01:41
agamottotxt spk?01:41
WcktKlwnonly problem with that card is I don't have any pci-e slots in my box01:42
WcktKlwnthat's aim speak from like 10 years ago01:42
agamottoAhhh01:42
agamottoI am working on doing up a box for my mum, and I figured that the easiest route might be the USB stick-style tuners, but Hauppauge only came up with the 1800.01:43
agamottoWell, if that is all that will work, I suppose that would be it.01:43
WcktKlwnI really wish I would have bought the pvr-150 that was right next to it when I bought it01:44
tgm4883_laptopfrink__, ping01:44
agamottoHmmm, according to the wiki, analog support on the card isn't there yet... confusing01:45
agamottoI have a pvr-150 in my current box... works well01:46
WcktKlwnyeah, I wish I would have gotten one01:46
agamottoTry amazon01:46
agamottoeBay, if that doesn't scare you away01:47
tgm4883_laptopnewegg01:47
WcktKlwnhow are the WinTV-PVR 500 ?01:51
agamottoI could not say, as I haven't played with the multi-tuner cards yet01:52
tgm4883_laptopmine works pretty good, although I have to use the svideo inputs01:55
agamottoSvideo in?  what from/for?01:56
tgm4883_laptopI have read that they are a little sensitive to too much power from the coax (degrades picture)01:56
* agamotto twiddles02:00
WcktKlwnI almost want to over night a pvr-50002:05
agamottoTempting, isn't it?02:08
WcktKlwnonly bad thing is, it won't actually get here tomorrow02:08
agamottoWho knows?02:09
agamottoI ordered the kit for mum's new box Monday, and everything but the memory was here yesterday, with ground shipping02:09
WcktKlwnorder has to get in before like 502:10
agamottoTurns out that they have a warehouse in Naperville, Il., with my living in Moline02:10
tgm4883_laptopyea in order for it to get there tomarrow, it would have to ship today02:10
WcktKlwnand I don't think any new orders are going out tonight for newegg02:11
agamottoTrue, but I was rather surprised that TigerDirect got my kit to me next day... Usually, 3day ground w/UPS means about a week02:12
MythbuntuGuest25is there a way to install/enable mythmovies in mythbuntu, or do i need sources?02:19
agamottoI am afraid that question is out of my league, as I only use it as a DVR02:20
WcktKlwnmythmovies is just on by default isn't it?02:20
WcktKlwnisn't it just mythvideo now?02:21
agamottoI am not sure.  I have played with the streams a bit, but I don't use most of the other functions02:21
MythbuntuGuest25perhaps its called something else now, im looking for movie times at the cinema, aka getting out of the house :)02:22
WcktKlwnoh02:22
MythbuntuGuest25it was in previous releases if i recall correctly02:22
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MythbuntuGuest25http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythMovies02:24
tgm4883_laptopnope02:24
tgm4883_laptopit's in trunk02:24
superm1that is in trunk02:24
tgm4883_laptopit's brand new02:24
MythbuntuGuest25thats all i can find, other than mentions of thetr unk02:24
MythbuntuGuest25i get that through svn correct?02:25
superm1you can get it via weekly builds02:25
superm1well as of this upcoming weekend's weekly build at least02:25
WcktKlwnI have problems with iso playback in the weekly builds02:25
superm1it will be included in that02:25
MythbuntuGuest25so by enabling weekly builds, i will receive the mythmovies plugin?02:27
agamottoI haven't even tried to burn a dvd with it yet02:28
agamottoI use it mostly as a better VCR02:28
superm1MythbuntuGuest25, as of this next build yes02:28
MythbuntuGuest25as of right now im using it as a huge dvd jukebox so to speak, i haven't narrowed down a capture card yet02:28
WcktKlwnwhat do you store your dvd's on?02:29
agamottoYou rip them into the hd, right?02:29
MythbuntuGuest25two sata hd's lvm'ed together02:29
MythbuntuGuest25yes, perfect mode which creates vob's02:30
MythbuntuGuest25some people like special features and menus, i hate them02:30
MythbuntuGuest25well, i like special features _once_02:30
WcktKlwnI wanna take my dvd's and my girlfriends dvd's and turn it into a huge dvd server.. but the problem is, I need alot of storage space (4tb right now and room to grow)02:30
MythbuntuGuest25thats some serious movies02:31
agamottoHmmm, now that would be a use for a serious movie fan...02:31
WcktKlwntogether we have 509 movies02:32
MythbuntuGuest25not that anybody's counting02:33
WcktKlwnI have a movie database going for our movies02:33
agamottoWow.  Far more than I have... my whole collection would add up to about 6002:33
MythbuntuGuest25you figure an average of 20 bucks per movie, that comes to $10,18002:35
WcktKlwnsad isn't it?02:35
agamottoHmmm, I have rarely paid over $1002:35
MythbuntuGuest25depending on what you get and where you get it02:36
agamottoI always wait about 6months after something comes out... save a lot that way02:36
MythbuntuGuest25i haven't gotten to one yet, but how do you rip/catalog episode dvds, such as family guy seasons?02:37
tgm4883_laptopfor storage space, you probably don't need to archive the whole disc either, movie only02:37
MythbuntuGuest25im still trying to figure out how to remove foreign language audio tracks from it...i found a guide using mplayer but it core dumps02:39
WcktKlwnwhy would you want to?02:44
MythbuntuGuest25space02:44
MythbuntuGuest25one of my movies defaulted to french, though i might have done something goofy, i havent tried it recently02:45
agamottoMy first DVD player defaulted to Espanol for everything... took me three days to get it to English03:02
agamottoHere is a question I didn't think of... if someone wanted to set up a unit with two pvr-150s, would one remote control both tuners, or would you be stuck with needing two remotes?03:12
MythbuntuGuest25can't imagine you would03:13
MythbuntuGuest25if you had two identical tvs either remote would control either03:13
agamottoOk, I wasn't sure if it would work that way, as I can't see how each tuner would know which one you are 'aiming at' with the remote03:13
agamottoUnless you move the little 'eyes' a few feet apart?03:14
MythbuntuGuest25as i understand it, the remote controls the computer, not the card03:14
agamottoHmmm, I will look it up on the install guide03:14
Eggheaddoes anyone know what the text viewer is used to view the full plot info in in mythvideo, when viewing by list?03:15
MythbuntuGuest25not sure i understand your question03:17
MythbuntuGuest25agamotto: http://www.pvrweb.com/bbs/lofiversion/index.php/t5235.html03:18
Eggheadim talking about the window that displays the plot info when in mythvideo03:19
MythbuntuGuest25ok what about it03:19
Eggheadyou can bring it up by typing i then choose view full plot03:19
Eggheadis it a text viewer or part of myth frontend03:20
agamottoDanke03:20
MythbuntuGuest25you mean this? http://www.mythtv.org/mythimages/mythvideo4.png03:20
Eggheadi guess i mean is it a standalone text viewer that myth uses or codeed into mythfrontend03:20
MythbuntuGuest25its probably coded into it, it doesn't appear to be external viewer03:21
Eggheadummm, no03:21
Eggheadit available when in list view03:21
MythbuntuGuest25im sure, but not positive, that the plot information is stored in the mysql database, and is just regurgitated on the screen03:21
agamottoOk, that settles it.  I will just get two pvr-150s, and not bother with the digital until cable switches over...03:22
MythbuntuGuest25ota is switching, not cable03:23
MythbuntuGuest25though they probably won't offer analog packages much longer past the deadline03:23
Eggheadif your in mythvideo, in the tree list view, then press the i key, you get a window, it looks to be a text viewer03:23
agamottoI know... this box is mostly for cable tv viewing, so I don't mind spending on two 150s... they will last until the switch-over03:24
MythbuntuGuest25i dont see ntsc going away anytime soon03:24
MythbuntuGuest25i have dish network sd and it is connected to my tv via the ntsc...nothing changes for me next year03:25
tgm4883_laptopyep, boxes will still exist for analog03:25
MythbuntuGuest25the only problem you might run into, and the 'problem' that i have is that the built in tuner won't be changing the channels03:26
agamottoI just wish all of the companies would just sit down and make crap that 'just works.'  The term 'universal remote' should be punishable by $50,000 fine for each use on packaging03:26
MythbuntuGuest25i thought they were unreversible remotes03:27
Eggheadlol03:27
MythbuntuGuest25by that analogy, so should 'plug in play', 'usb', and 'one size fits all'03:29
MythbuntuGuest25plug n play03:29
agamottoPlug and Play, especially.  USB is pretty reliable... least problems I have ever had with cabling/devices03:32
MythbuntuGuest25my biggest beef with usb is the connector is square instead of some shape that signifies its alignment03:32
MythbuntuGuest25like the other end has03:32
agamottoOk, I can see that03:32
MythbuntuGuest25as long as we're bitchin..03:34
MythbuntuGuest25whats the deal with printer ink?03:34
MythbuntuGuest25heh03:34
agamottoNo kidding03:35
agamottoI seal my carts in ziplocs, as I don't print that often03:35
MythbuntuGuest25their biggest money maker by far03:35
agamottoI would consider Kodak, but I am not going to buy a new printer to use their ink03:35
MythbuntuGuest25go to a store and there's a whole aisle full of them, and thats just the latest versions03:35
agamottoI do quite well with the home refill kits03:36
MythbuntuGuest25not one is compatible with another03:36
tgm4883_laptopalthough they are not marketed as universal03:36
MythbuntuGuest25true03:36
MythbuntuGuest25but why not?03:36
tgm4883_laptopand you can get generic03:37
agamottoYep, my neighbors are big fans of Walgreen's refilling03:37
tgm4883_laptopit's a balance between features and standards03:37
MythbuntuGuest83oops03:38
agamottoIt helps that they do the refills about the same time they do their meds :)03:39
* agamotto waves03:43
agamottoTime to wander off... my eyes are starting to glaze03:43
* MythbuntuGuest83 waves back03:43
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ledheadquestion05:38
ledheadI had a previous install of ubuntu running and audio was fine (gutsy gibbon)05:38
ledheadnow I have installed mythbuntu and have no audio any ideas?05:38
ledheadwill try back tomorrow when people are awake I guess05:40
ledheadgood night ;)05:40
blkorpheushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha405:51
blkorpheusplease don't break my mythtv again :-P05:52
superm1blkorpheus, well be ready for breakage, I added trunk today :)05:53
superm1there are several areas that still need to build though and be ack'ed by archive admins05:54
superm1so it might be a few days until they show up05:54
blkorpheuscool05:59
blkorpheusmy backend gives me a crash warning pretty regularly05:59
blkorpheusI have since ignored most, but they still appear whether I click ignore or not05:59
blkorpheusI assume, they are known bugs06:00
superm1well please start submitting them after you upgrade to the trunk stuff06:00
superm1we need to get those fixed if we can :)06:00
blkorpheussure, will do06:01
blkorpheusi just got bit with bug fatigue06:01
blkorpheusbut I like that I can help make 8.04 solid06:01
blkorpheusI'm luvin' it already06:01
blkorpheusI know stuff will break, I don't mind, nothing critical like X06:02
blkorpheusI've alpha'd since ubuntu began06:02
blkorpheusalwasy impressed with how stable from the start06:02
blkorpheusI need to do more, learn C or something to help you guys out, python something06:02
superm1well once you submit one of these bug reports, the biggest thing you can do is interpret it and determine the true cause06:03
superm1if you can, that saves upstream a heck of a lot of trouble06:03
blkorpheustrue06:07
blkorpheuscan't believe gnome weather applet is still broken?06:08
blkorpheusit my favorite app06:08
blkorpheusthey have a fix for it, but not implemented yet?06:08
blkorpheuswill need a reboot I guess06:08
superm1what's wrong with it?06:11
superm1Works for Me (TM)06:11
blkorpheusthe xml for locations is missing06:13
superm1so perhaps because i had it working in gutsy06:13
superm1and it carried my location over?06:13
superm1ah yeah i can't change it06:13
blkorpheusyup06:16
blkorpheusmine worked in gutsy and in hardy06:16
blkorpheusbut  there was a gnome-applet update, which killed it06:16
baalsgatecan someone tell me where to change the default startup user ?06:34
superm1mcc can modify that06:35
superm1so can gdmsetup06:35
superm1or by hand in /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf06:35
baalsgatesuperml , thats great thanks06:38
Mr__anyone here?07:49
Mr__?07:50
Mr__?07:55
blkorpheussuperm1, nothing broke :)09:39
frink__hello09:40
superm1blkorpheus, not everything has made it through the NEW queue yet09:40
frink__hey superm1 !09:40
superm1so i dont think it will be broke yet09:40
frink__:)09:40
superm1hey frink__09:40
superm1how are you?09:40
superm1blkorpheus, see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue09:40
superm1and you can see that they are still sitting at the top for a few NEW things09:41
frink__I am goood thank, you?09:41
superm1frink__, pretty good myself.  i just finished relocating, and have about a week or so off here to relax before I start my job09:41
frink__superm1: Cool, where did you move to and.. What job!09:42
superm1frink__, so its basically a ton of Ubuntu stuff to catch up on this week :)09:42
superm1frink__, i'm in TX now09:42
superm1nice and warm here09:42
frink__TX. nice09:48
frink__bloody freezing here09:48
frink__windy09:48
frink__raining09:48
frink__dark09:48
superm1haha09:48
frink__wake up and think "why oh why...."09:48
superm1my family was telling me that it was around 11F today in the midwest, while i enjoyed 65F :)09:48
frink__And add to it, that I paid 104.5p per litre for petrol this morning09:49
frink__thats like $2 a liter09:49
frink__litre09:49
frink__whatever09:49
superm1:(09:52
superm1well i need to get to bed, its getting lat... er i guess early at this point, yeah bed time for sure09:52
jarlesuperm1: still there?14:49
blkorpheushe's sleep14:56
jarleblkorpheus: in addition to him and laga, anyone else here involved in building the mythbuntu packages?14:59
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MythbuntuGuest50hi every whre15:20
MythbuntuGuest50where15:20
MythbuntuGuest50do you know if this operating system supports win tv hvr 3000 hardware15:21
MythbuntuGuest50?¿15:21
MythbuntuGuest50somebody?¿15:21
MythbuntuGuest50somebody knows it?¿15:21
MythbuntuGuest50ok by thanks for nothing15:22
MythbuntuGuest50somebody here15:22
MythbuntuGuest50there is a system test posibly i will get involved in the testing hardware compatibility...15:23
MythbuntuGuest50nothing to do bye15:23
rhpot1991_laptopfine, don't wait for an answer15:27
blkorpheuswow15:35
blkorpheusmust of forgot his meds15:35
rhpot1991_laptophe coulda had a much nicer tone too15:35
rhpot1991_laptopsaying thanks for nothing 2 minutes after asking15:35
blkorpheusthat helps15:35
rhpot1991_laptopthere should be a blurb on mythbuntu's irc page about etiquette15:38
rhpot1991_laptopwireless AV transmitter on sale here: http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?product_id=58-12335&catalog_name=MCMProducts15:52
[nrx]ello16:03
tgm4883rhpot1991_laptop, you mean like the blurb on this page?  http://mythbuntu.org/support16:21
rhpot1991_laptophmmmm, has that always been there?16:24
tgm4883no, i just added it ;)16:24
rhpot1991_laptopheh, ok good16:24
rhpot1991_laptopyou should put something about !ask in there16:24
ircleuserhi guys. i'm working on getting mythtv working and i'm hitting a few stumbling blocks. I'm following the guide on the website for installing and I'm at 'connect source to input'. When i hit the scan for channels ( i selected EIT) I'm getting nothing coming back. Can anyone help me please? :)16:32
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rhpot1991_laptopsorry [nrx] I don't know anything about EIT, you can try #mythtv-users if you don't get any response here after a while16:42
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[nrx]:(16:54
astylerso.. I did a complete fresh install of mythbuntu17:32
astylerand whenever I try to select "keys" the frontend crashes17:32
astyleranyone know where I can check logs or enable logging?17:32
tgm4883astyler, /var/log/mythtv17:41
tgm4883there are 217:41
astylerthanks17:41
tgm4883although you probably want mythfrontend.log17:41
astylerright.17:41
immensewokCan anyone offer some advice about setting up an IR blaster?17:49
astylercheck mailing list17:55
astylerthere are lots of people who have done and documented it17:56
astylerforums as well17:56
immensewoki've been digging around with no luck but i'll check the mailing list. Thanks.17:56
immensewokIn case anyone's feeling generous, I bought a double headed IR blaster from Liebtech and I'm trying to set it up from the Mythbuntu live cd. I can't find my remote model in the drop down list and I'm unsure which kernel modules and drivers I need. Searching for IR blasters turns up tons of stuff but searching for Liebtech turns up nothing.18:02
astyleroh18:04
astylerwhy setting it up from the livecd?18:04
astylerif its a temp frontend you might have trouble18:05
astylerbut post-setup and post-updates, you might find better support for it18:05
immensewokI suppose that as a linux noob my best (maybe only) tool is erase and reinstall. The whole point of my myth box is to learn more about linux but I'm still a lot more comfortable in a GUI than on the command line. My setup is a combined front and backend.18:08
rhpot1991_laptopimmensewok: are you actually installing from the live cd, or just trying to run from it?18:37
immensewokinstalling18:37
[nrx]i've installed mythbuntu. enabled the restrcited drivers for my ati radeon. The colour depth isn't there though - can anyone tell me how i increase it?20:56
[nrx]actually, got a few issue. don't have a mixer control, either20:57
tgm4883[nrx], did you run alsamixer from the command line?21:03
blkorpheus[nrx], just read the documents for your video card and drivers for linux21:14
MythbuntuGuest87laga bist du da, ich habe jetzt die config23:17

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