[01:15] <MythbuntuGuest83> hello, everyone
[01:16] <MythbuntuGuest83> I'm in need of some help.
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest83> I have a PVR-500.  Tuner 1 is fine.  Tuner 2 records blackness.
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest83> Any suggestions?
[01:19] <agamotto> As stupid as this sounds, are you using the same channel lineup for both tuners?
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest83, hmm
[01:25] <MythbuntuGuest83> Ha.  Yes, both have the same lineup
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> Are there more than 1 header on the card?
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> I had this same problem a few days ago, although I use SVideo inputs
[01:26] <agamotto> Ok, that rules out the stupid, on to the odd... During the setup, did you set up the same bits for both tuners 0 and 1?
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> turns out I needed to be plugged into the second header, not the first
[01:26] <MythbuntuGuest83> Agamotto, I'm not sure what you mean by the same bit.
[01:27] <agamotto> When you set up the tuners, you set up a channel list, etc for tuner 0 and tuner 1?
[01:28] <MythbuntuGuest83> Agamotto, yes, both have a channel list.
[01:28] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't suppose you have a link to your specific card
[01:28] <agamotto> Hmmm
[01:28] <MythbuntuGuest83> What sort of link?
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> like if you ordered it off of newegg, that link.  That way we could tell exactly which one you have
[01:29] <agamotto> Try this, as odd as it sounds... take the lead/cable from tuner 0 and put it on tuner 1, see if anything appears on the screen
[01:30] <MythbuntuGuest83> Ah.  It's a Hauppauge PVR-500 with a samsung chip.
[01:30] <WcktKlwn> I wish the HVR-1600 was supported
[01:31] <MythbuntuGuest83> Agamotto, my card only has one input connection.
[01:31] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest83, how are you hooked up to your card?  With coax, svideo, composite, etc?
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest83, where did you get this card?
[01:33] <agamotto> Now that is funny, as Hauppauge assured me in an email recently that the WinTV HVR-1800 would work with Mythbuntu
[01:33] <MythbuntuGuest83> Amazon, but it's not new.  It previously worked on my Ubuntu Feisty Mythtv setup.
[01:33] <MythbuntuGuest83> The card receives it's signal with coax cable.
[01:33] <agamotto> MythbuntuGuest83:  I would have to say that I am stumped then.
[01:33] <WcktKlwn> agamotto, I believe the 1800 uses the same chipset, and it's limited support in linux right now
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest83, AFAIK, you can only record 1 channel per hookup
[01:34] <agamotto> Hrm
[01:35] <MythbuntuGuest83> No, the card has an internal splitter.  My previous Feisty setup recorded two shows at once.
[01:36] <agamotto> Now that would be odd.  MythTv confirms that there are two tuners that it sees?
[01:36] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:36] <MythbuntuGuest83> Yes, it sees both.
[01:36] <agamotto> Speaking of questions:  Does anyone know if any of the USB stick tuners works with Mythbuntu?
[01:36] <tgm4883_laptop> and you set the card up twice in mythtv-setup, one set to /dev/video0 and one set to /dev/video1?
[01:36] <agamotto> Now that is truly odd
[01:37] <MythbuntuGuest83> tgm, that's right.
[01:37] <WcktKlwn> agamotto, nvm, it's a different chipset, which is supported
[01:37] <WcktKlwn> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800
[01:38] <agamotto> nvm?
[01:41] <WcktKlwn> nevermind
[01:41] <agamotto> ahhhh
[01:41] <agamotto> txt spk?
[01:42] <WcktKlwn> only problem with that card is I don't have any pci-e slots in my box
[01:42] <WcktKlwn> that's aim speak from like 10 years ago
[01:42] <agamotto> Ahhh
[01:43] <agamotto> I am working on doing up a box for my mum, and I figured that the easiest route might be the USB stick-style tuners, but Hauppauge only came up with the 1800.
[01:43] <agamotto> Well, if that is all that will work, I suppose that would be it.
[01:44] <WcktKlwn> I really wish I would have bought the pvr-150 that was right next to it when I bought it
[01:44] <tgm4883_laptop> frink__, ping
[01:45] <agamotto> Hmmm, according to the wiki, analog support on the card isn't there yet... confusing
[01:46] <agamotto> I have a pvr-150 in my current box... works well
[01:46] <WcktKlwn> yeah, I wish I would have gotten one
[01:46] <agamotto> Try amazon
[01:47] <agamotto> eBay, if that doesn't scare you away
[01:47] <tgm4883_laptop> newegg
[01:51] <WcktKlwn> how are the WinTV-PVR 500 ?
[01:52] <agamotto> I could not say, as I haven't played with the multi-tuner cards yet
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> mine works pretty good, although I have to use the svideo inputs
[01:56] <agamotto> Svideo in?  what from/for?
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> I have read that they are a little sensitive to too much power from the coax (degrades picture)
[02:00]  * agamotto twiddles
[02:05] <WcktKlwn> I almost want to over night a pvr-500
[02:08] <agamotto> Tempting, isn't it?
[02:08] <WcktKlwn> only bad thing is, it won't actually get here tomorrow
[02:09] <agamotto> Who knows?
[02:09] <agamotto> I ordered the kit for mum's new box Monday, and everything but the memory was here yesterday, with ground shipping
[02:10] <WcktKlwn> order has to get in before like 5
[02:10] <agamotto> Turns out that they have a warehouse in Naperville, Il., with my living in Moline
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> yea in order for it to get there tomarrow, it would have to ship today
[02:11] <WcktKlwn> and I don't think any new orders are going out tonight for newegg
[02:12] <agamotto> True, but I was rather surprised that TigerDirect got my kit to me next day... Usually, 3day ground w/UPS means about a week
[02:19] <MythbuntuGuest25> is there a way to install/enable mythmovies in mythbuntu, or do i need sources?
[02:20] <agamotto> I am afraid that question is out of my league, as I only use it as a DVR
[02:20] <WcktKlwn> mythmovies is just on by default isn't it?
[02:21] <WcktKlwn> isn't it just mythvideo now?
[02:21] <agamotto> I am not sure.  I have played with the streams a bit, but I don't use most of the other functions
[02:22] <MythbuntuGuest25> perhaps its called something else now, im looking for movie times at the cinema, aka getting out of the house :)
[02:22] <WcktKlwn> oh
[02:22] <MythbuntuGuest25> it was in previous releases if i recall correctly
[02:24] <MythbuntuGuest25> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythMovies
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> it's in trunk
[02:24] <superm1> that is in trunk
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> it's brand new
[02:24] <MythbuntuGuest25> thats all i can find, other than mentions of thetr unk
[02:25] <MythbuntuGuest25> i get that through svn correct?
[02:25] <superm1> you can get it via weekly builds
[02:25] <superm1> well as of this upcoming weekend's weekly build at least
[02:25] <WcktKlwn> I have problems with iso playback in the weekly builds
[02:25] <superm1> it will be included in that
[02:27] <MythbuntuGuest25> so by enabling weekly builds, i will receive the mythmovies plugin?
[02:28] <agamotto> I haven't even tried to burn a dvd with it yet
[02:28] <agamotto> I use it mostly as a better VCR
[02:28] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest25, as of this next build yes
[02:28] <MythbuntuGuest25> as of right now im using it as a huge dvd jukebox so to speak, i haven't narrowed down a capture card yet
[02:29] <WcktKlwn> what do you store your dvd's on?
[02:29] <agamotto> You rip them into the hd, right?
[02:29] <MythbuntuGuest25> two sata hd's lvm'ed together
[02:30] <MythbuntuGuest25> yes, perfect mode which creates vob's
[02:30] <MythbuntuGuest25> some people like special features and menus, i hate them
[02:30] <MythbuntuGuest25> well, i like special features _once_
[02:30] <WcktKlwn> I wanna take my dvd's and my girlfriends dvd's and turn it into a huge dvd server.. but the problem is, I need alot of storage space (4tb right now and room to grow)
[02:31] <MythbuntuGuest25> thats some serious movies
[02:31] <agamotto> Hmmm, now that would be a use for a serious movie fan...
[02:32] <WcktKlwn> together we have 509 movies
[02:33] <MythbuntuGuest25> not that anybody's counting
[02:33] <WcktKlwn> I have a movie database going for our movies
[02:33] <agamotto> Wow.  Far more than I have... my whole collection would add up to about 60
[02:35] <MythbuntuGuest25> you figure an average of 20 bucks per movie, that comes to $10,180
[02:35] <WcktKlwn> sad isn't it?
[02:35] <agamotto> Hmmm, I have rarely paid over $10
[02:36] <MythbuntuGuest25> depending on what you get and where you get it
[02:36] <agamotto> I always wait about 6months after something comes out... save a lot that way
[02:37] <MythbuntuGuest25> i haven't gotten to one yet, but how do you rip/catalog episode dvds, such as family guy seasons?
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> for storage space, you probably don't need to archive the whole disc either, movie only
[02:39] <MythbuntuGuest25> im still trying to figure out how to remove foreign language audio tracks from it...i found a guide using mplayer but it core dumps
[02:44] <WcktKlwn> why would you want to?
[02:44] <MythbuntuGuest25> space
[02:45] <MythbuntuGuest25> one of my movies defaulted to french, though i might have done something goofy, i havent tried it recently
[03:02] <agamotto> My first DVD player defaulted to Espanol for everything... took me three days to get it to English
[03:12] <agamotto> Here is a question I didn't think of... if someone wanted to set up a unit with two pvr-150s, would one remote control both tuners, or would you be stuck with needing two remotes?
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest25> can't imagine you would
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest25> if you had two identical tvs either remote would control either
[03:13] <agamotto> Ok, I wasn't sure if it would work that way, as I can't see how each tuner would know which one you are 'aiming at' with the remote
[03:14] <agamotto> Unless you move the little 'eyes' a few feet apart?
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest25> as i understand it, the remote controls the computer, not the card
[03:14] <agamotto> Hmmm, I will look it up on the install guide
[03:15] <Egghead> does anyone know what the text viewer is used to view the full plot info in in mythvideo, when viewing by list?
[03:17] <MythbuntuGuest25> not sure i understand your question
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest25> agamotto: http://www.pvrweb.com/bbs/lofiversion/index.php/t5235.html
[03:19] <Egghead> im talking about the window that displays the plot info when in mythvideo
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest25> ok what about it
[03:19] <Egghead> you can bring it up by typing i then choose view full plot
[03:20] <Egghead> is it a text viewer or part of myth frontend
[03:20] <agamotto> Danke
[03:20] <MythbuntuGuest25> you mean this? http://www.mythtv.org/mythimages/mythvideo4.png
[03:20] <Egghead> i guess i mean is it a standalone text viewer that myth uses or codeed into mythfrontend
[03:21] <MythbuntuGuest25> its probably coded into it, it doesn't appear to be external viewer
[03:21] <Egghead> ummm, no
[03:21] <Egghead> it available when in list view
[03:21] <MythbuntuGuest25> im sure, but not positive, that the plot information is stored in the mysql database, and is just regurgitated on the screen
[03:22] <agamotto> Ok, that settles it.  I will just get two pvr-150s, and not bother with the digital until cable switches over...
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest25> ota is switching, not cable
[03:23] <MythbuntuGuest25> though they probably won't offer analog packages much longer past the deadline
[03:23] <Egghead> if your in mythvideo, in the tree list view, then press the i key, you get a window, it looks to be a text viewer
[03:24] <agamotto> I know... this box is mostly for cable tv viewing, so I don't mind spending on two 150s... they will last until the switch-over
[03:24] <MythbuntuGuest25> i dont see ntsc going away anytime soon
[03:25] <MythbuntuGuest25> i have dish network sd and it is connected to my tv via the ntsc...nothing changes for me next year
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yep, boxes will still exist for analog
[03:26] <MythbuntuGuest25> the only problem you might run into, and the 'problem' that i have is that the built in tuner won't be changing the channels
[03:26] <agamotto> I just wish all of the companies would just sit down and make crap that 'just works.'  The term 'universal remote' should be punishable by $50,000 fine for each use on packaging
[03:27] <MythbuntuGuest25> i thought they were unreversible remotes
[03:27] <Egghead> lol
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest25> by that analogy, so should 'plug in play', 'usb', and 'one size fits all'
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest25> plug n play
[03:32] <agamotto> Plug and Play, especially.  USB is pretty reliable... least problems I have ever had with cabling/devices
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest25> my biggest beef with usb is the connector is square instead of some shape that signifies its alignment
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest25> like the other end has
[03:32] <agamotto> Ok, I can see that
[03:34] <MythbuntuGuest25> as long as we're bitchin..
[03:34] <MythbuntuGuest25> whats the deal with printer ink?
[03:34] <MythbuntuGuest25> heh
[03:35] <agamotto> No kidding
[03:35] <agamotto> I seal my carts in ziplocs, as I don't print that often
[03:35] <MythbuntuGuest25> their biggest money maker by far
[03:35] <agamotto> I would consider Kodak, but I am not going to buy a new printer to use their ink
[03:35] <MythbuntuGuest25> go to a store and there's a whole aisle full of them, and thats just the latest versions
[03:36] <agamotto> I do quite well with the home refill kits
[03:36] <MythbuntuGuest25> not one is compatible with another
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> although they are not marketed as universal
[03:36] <MythbuntuGuest25> true
[03:36] <MythbuntuGuest25> but why not?
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> and you can get generic
[03:37] <agamotto> Yep, my neighbors are big fans of Walgreen's refilling
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> it's a balance between features and standards
[03:38] <MythbuntuGuest83> oops
[03:39] <agamotto> It helps that they do the refills about the same time they do their meds :)
[03:43]  * agamotto waves
[03:43] <agamotto> Time to wander off... my eyes are starting to glaze
[03:43]  * MythbuntuGuest83 waves back
[05:38] <ledhead> question
[05:38] <ledhead> I had a previous install of ubuntu running and audio was fine (gutsy gibbon)
[05:38] <ledhead> now I have installed mythbuntu and have no audio any ideas?
[05:40] <ledhead> will try back tomorrow when people are awake I guess
[05:40] <ledhead> good night ;)
[05:51] <blkorpheus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Alpha4
[05:52] <blkorpheus> please don't break my mythtv again :-P
[05:53] <superm1> blkorpheus, well be ready for breakage, I added trunk today :)
[05:54] <superm1> there are several areas that still need to build though and be ack'ed by archive admins
[05:54] <superm1> so it might be a few days until they show up
[05:59] <blkorpheus> cool
[05:59] <blkorpheus> my backend gives me a crash warning pretty regularly
[05:59] <blkorpheus> I have since ignored most, but they still appear whether I click ignore or not
[06:00] <blkorpheus> I assume, they are known bugs
[06:00] <superm1> well please start submitting them after you upgrade to the trunk stuff
[06:00] <superm1> we need to get those fixed if we can :)
[06:01] <blkorpheus> sure, will do
[06:01] <blkorpheus> i just got bit with bug fatigue
[06:01] <blkorpheus> but I like that I can help make 8.04 solid
[06:01] <blkorpheus> I'm luvin' it already
[06:02] <blkorpheus> I know stuff will break, I don't mind, nothing critical like X
[06:02] <blkorpheus> I've alpha'd since ubuntu began
[06:02] <blkorpheus> alwasy impressed with how stable from the start
[06:02] <blkorpheus> I need to do more, learn C or something to help you guys out, python something
[06:03] <superm1> well once you submit one of these bug reports, the biggest thing you can do is interpret it and determine the true cause
[06:03] <superm1> if you can, that saves upstream a heck of a lot of trouble
[06:07] <blkorpheus> true
[06:08] <blkorpheus> can't believe gnome weather applet is still broken?
[06:08] <blkorpheus> it my favorite app
[06:08] <blkorpheus> they have a fix for it, but not implemented yet?
[06:08] <blkorpheus> will need a reboot I guess
[06:11] <superm1> what's wrong with it?
[06:11] <superm1> Works for Me (TM)
[06:13] <blkorpheus> the xml for locations is missing
[06:13] <superm1> so perhaps because i had it working in gutsy
[06:13] <superm1> and it carried my location over?
[06:13] <superm1> ah yeah i can't change it
[06:16] <blkorpheus> yup
[06:16] <blkorpheus> mine worked in gutsy and in hardy
[06:16] <blkorpheus> but  there was a gnome-applet update, which killed it
[06:34] <baalsgate> can someone tell me where to change the default startup user ?
[06:35] <superm1> mcc can modify that
[06:35] <superm1> so can gdmsetup
[06:35] <superm1> or by hand in /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf
[06:38] <baalsgate> superml , thats great thanks
[07:49] <Mr__> anyone here?
[07:50] <Mr__> ?
[07:55] <Mr__> ?
[09:39] <blkorpheus> superm1, nothing broke :)
[09:40] <frink__> hello
[09:40] <superm1> blkorpheus, not everything has made it through the NEW queue yet
[09:40] <frink__> hey superm1 !
[09:40] <superm1> so i dont think it will be broke yet
[09:40] <frink__> :)
[09:40] <superm1> hey frink__
[09:40] <superm1> how are you?
[09:40] <superm1> blkorpheus, see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[09:41] <superm1> and you can see that they are still sitting at the top for a few NEW things
[09:41] <frink__> I am goood thank, you?
[09:41] <superm1> frink__, pretty good myself.  i just finished relocating, and have about a week or so off here to relax before I start my job
[09:42] <frink__> superm1: Cool, where did you move to and.. What job!
[09:42] <superm1> frink__, so its basically a ton of Ubuntu stuff to catch up on this week :)
[09:42] <superm1> frink__, i'm in TX now
[09:42] <superm1> nice and warm here
[09:48] <frink__> TX. nice
[09:48] <frink__> bloody freezing here
[09:48] <frink__> windy
[09:48] <frink__> raining
[09:48] <frink__> dark
[09:48] <superm1> haha
[09:48] <frink__> wake up and think "why oh why...."
[09:48] <superm1> my family was telling me that it was around 11F today in the midwest, while i enjoyed 65F :)
[09:49] <frink__> And add to it, that I paid 104.5p per litre for petrol this morning
[09:49] <frink__> thats like $2 a liter
[09:49] <frink__> litre
[09:49] <frink__> whatever
[09:52] <superm1> :(
[09:52] <superm1> well i need to get to bed, its getting lat... er i guess early at this point, yeah bed time for sure
[14:49] <jarle> superm1: still there?
[14:56] <blkorpheus> he's sleep
[14:59] <jarle> blkorpheus: in addition to him and laga, anyone else here involved in building the mythbuntu packages?
[15:20] <MythbuntuGuest50> hi every whre
[15:20] <MythbuntuGuest50> where
[15:21] <MythbuntuGuest50> do you know if this operating system supports win tv hvr 3000 hardware
[15:21] <MythbuntuGuest50> ?¿
[15:21] <MythbuntuGuest50> somebody?¿
[15:21] <MythbuntuGuest50> somebody knows it?¿
[15:22] <MythbuntuGuest50> ok by thanks for nothing
[15:22] <MythbuntuGuest50> somebody here
[15:23] <MythbuntuGuest50> there is a system test posibly i will get involved in the testing hardware compatibility...
[15:23] <MythbuntuGuest50> nothing to do bye
[15:27] <rhpot1991_laptop> fine, don't wait for an answer
[15:35] <blkorpheus> wow
[15:35] <blkorpheus> must of forgot his meds
[15:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> he coulda had a much nicer tone too
[15:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> saying thanks for nothing 2 minutes after asking
[15:35] <blkorpheus> that helps
[15:38] <rhpot1991_laptop> there should be a blurb on mythbuntu's irc page about etiquette
[15:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> wireless AV transmitter on sale here: http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?product_id=58-12335&catalog_name=MCMProducts
[16:03] <[nrx]> ello
[16:21] <tgm4883> rhpot1991_laptop, you mean like the blurb on this page?  http://mythbuntu.org/support
[16:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> hmmmm, has that always been there?
[16:24] <tgm4883> no, i just added it ;)
[16:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> heh, ok good
[16:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> you should put something about !ask in there
[16:32] <ircleuser> hi guys. i'm working on getting mythtv working and i'm hitting a few stumbling blocks. I'm following the guide on the website for installing and I'm at 'connect source to input'. When i hit the scan for channels ( i selected EIT) I'm getting nothing coming back. Can anyone help me please? :)
[16:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> sorry [nrx] I don't know anything about EIT, you can try #mythtv-users if you don't get any response here after a while
[16:54] <[nrx]> :(
[17:32] <astyler> so.. I did a complete fresh install of mythbuntu
[17:32] <astyler> and whenever I try to select "keys" the frontend crashes
[17:32] <astyler> anyone know where I can check logs or enable logging?
[17:41] <tgm4883> astyler, /var/log/mythtv
[17:41] <tgm4883> there are 2
[17:41] <astyler> thanks
[17:41] <tgm4883> although you probably want mythfrontend.log
[17:41] <astyler> right.
[17:49] <immensewok> Can anyone offer some advice about setting up an IR blaster?
[17:55] <astyler> check mailing list
[17:56] <astyler> there are lots of people who have done and documented it
[17:56] <astyler> forums as well
[17:56] <immensewok> i've been digging around with no luck but i'll check the mailing list. Thanks.
[18:02] <immensewok> In case anyone's feeling generous, I bought a double headed IR blaster from Liebtech and I'm trying to set it up from the Mythbuntu live cd. I can't find my remote model in the drop down list and I'm unsure which kernel modules and drivers I need. Searching for IR blasters turns up tons of stuff but searching for Liebtech turns up nothing.
[18:04] <astyler> oh
[18:04] <astyler> why setting it up from the livecd?
[18:05] <astyler> if its a temp frontend you might have trouble
[18:05] <astyler> but post-setup and post-updates, you might find better support for it
[18:08] <immensewok> I suppose that as a linux noob my best (maybe only) tool is erase and reinstall. The whole point of my myth box is to learn more about linux but I'm still a lot more comfortable in a GUI than on the command line. My setup is a combined front and backend.
[18:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> immensewok: are you actually installing from the live cd, or just trying to run from it?
[18:37] <immensewok> installing
[20:56] <[nrx]> i've installed mythbuntu. enabled the restrcited drivers for my ati radeon. The colour depth isn't there though - can anyone tell me how i increase it?
[20:57] <[nrx]> actually, got a few issue. don't have a mixer control, either
[21:03] <tgm4883> [nrx], did you run alsamixer from the command line?
[21:14] <blkorpheus> [nrx], just read the documents for your video card and drivers for linux
[23:17] <MythbuntuGuest87> laga bist du da, ich habe jetzt die config