[06:50] <pwnguin> tjaalton: thanks for the tip. bc72ef3a159efd67067322c043bba444869dc356 contains the patch
[07:09] <tjaalton> pwnguin: cool, so it'll be in hardy before too long
[08:14] <tjaalton> bryce: check the video blog entry by john palmieri on planet.fd.o
[08:16] <tjaalton> fedora has some config tool for configuring X, with multiple heads even
[10:25]  * Ng tsks, imho this stuff shouldn't be tool based, it should be event based. "hey, I detect a new monitor, select which display you want to clone/extend" :)
[10:28] <jcristau> Ng: there's no such event
[10:28] <jcristau> vga or tv load detection causes flicker, so you don't want to do that every second
[10:30] <Ng> I didn't say it was possible ;)
[10:31] <Ng> but if xrandr --auto can know that I have a VGA monitor on my laptop or not, it suggests that (perhaps with hardware modifications) it ought to be possible to have a non-polling solution
[10:33] <Ng> no ordinary user wants to go digging around in a display configurmatron, is my basic point :)
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #182189 in ubuntu "ACPI vs Radeon M6: Thinkpad X23 suspend issue (dup-of: 148408)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182189
[11:08] <tjaalton> of course the default is to just use the new display, that's what the video demonstrates, but the tool that they use to statically force some settings is what I was pointing out :)
[12:32] <ubotu> New bug: #178061 in xorg (main) "*** Error: couldn't find any ServerLayout sections" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178061
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #187634 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-5-generic None failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187634
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #187635 in nautilus (main) "package nautilus-data 1:2.21.90-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187635
[13:56] <ubotu> New bug: #187638 in nautilus-sendto (main) "package nautilus-sendto 0.13.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: unable to fill /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i with padding (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187638
[14:00] <ubotu> New bug: #187641 in wine (universe) "package wine 0.9.54-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187641
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187628 in evince (main) "package evince 2.21.90-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187628
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187630 in gimp (main) "package gimp-data 2.4.3-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187630
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187631 in libcairo-ruby (universe) "package libcairo-ruby1.8 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcairo-ruby1.8.list] failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187631
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187632 in linux (main) "package linux-headers-2.6.24-5 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-headers-2.6.24-5.list] failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187632
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187639 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.1-3ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187639
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #187640 in scribus-ng (universe) "package scribus-ng None failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187640
[14:02] <seb128> mvo: ^ see what the apt apport thing do ;-)
[14:02] <mvo> seb128: meh, maybe it should be limited to a single report for all failures
[14:02] <mvo> seb128: I think that is what I'm going to do
[14:03] <seb128> that would be nice
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #155785 in xboard (universe) "package xboard None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xboard.list] failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155785
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #177987 in pexpect (main) "package python-pexpect None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-pexpect.list] failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177987
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #178009 in imagemagick (main) "package imagemagick 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178009
[14:21] <ubotu> New bug: #155790 in xchat (universe) "package xchat-common None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xchat-common.list] failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155790
[15:36] <seb128> bryce: hi
[15:36] <seb128> bryce: my laptop is in broken keyboard state again if you are interested in debugging it
[15:46] <ubotu> New bug: #187680 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Minefield (Firefox) renders transparent or scaled images incorrectly or not at all (dup-of: 182038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187680
[16:37] <mvo_> bryce: is it known that the failsafe mode for X is not working?
[17:11] <tjaalton> mvo_: not working in what sense?
[17:35] <ubotu> New bug: #187748 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.1-3ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187748
[17:35] <ubotu> New bug: #187749 in wine (universe) "package wine 0.9.54-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1) (dup-of: 187634)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187749
[17:36] <bryce> mvo, yes, I'm aware there's a number of things not working with it, most fundamentally displayconfig-gtk no longer can deal with xorg.conf as they're currently written
[17:37] <bryce> bbiab
[17:45] <mvo_> bryce, tjaalton: on the life-cd in a VM I get the X failed to start dialog box. when I click "continue" then X shuts down 
[17:45] <mvo_> it maybe specific to the live-cd
[17:45] <mvo_> or the VM
[17:52] <tjaalton> ok, that's new
[17:52] <tjaalton> I guess
[17:52] <tjaalton> it didn't work before either, but still :)
[18:00] <mvo_> heh :)
[18:01] <mvo_> ok, sorry for not being more helpful
[18:21] <tjaalton> I'll test that myself before too long
[20:17] <seb128> re
[20:39] <bdmurray> bryce: I've submitted bug 187846 is that a driver or compiz bug?
[20:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187846 in compiz "glxgears artifacts when dragging window around with compiz enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187846
[20:40] <bryce> bdmurray: -intel bug, not a compiz bug
[20:40] <bryce> bdmurray: also, please check the -intel bugs, as there was another one like that filed.  However it was against 965 iirc, so may not be dupe-able
[20:40] <bdmurray> okay, I've changed the package then
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #187846 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "glxgears artifacts when dragging window around with compiz enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187846
[20:41] <bryce> bdmurray: also, I'd appreciate it if when you put bugs into an xorg component, that you ask them to attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and lspci -vvnn output
[20:42] <bryce> bdmurray: it'd save us an extra step in triaging
[20:42] <bdmurray> okay
[20:46] <seb128> got the keyboard bug again, anybody interested to debug it before i restart xorg,
[20:47] <bdmurray> bryce: Do you want those same bits for the bug on the live cd I just filed?
[20:47] <seb128> that is supposed to be a question but without modified there is some limitation ;-)
[20:49] <bryce> seb128: sure, I've just finished the ubuntu-mobile work and am ready to re-task
[20:49] <bryce> seb128: however I'm not certain what approach to take for debugging it yet
[20:49] <seb128> k
[20:49] <bryce> bdmurray: yes; in fact by default generally all xorg bugs need those three things.
[20:49] <seb128> i confirm that xorg see this key event i mentionned yesterday in continuous
[20:49] <seb128> that breaks modifiers use and make applications open in background
[20:50] <bryce> bdmurray: in fact, my fingers now type out requests for those files in my sleep
[20:50] <bdmurray> bryce: you mentioned a similar issue in bug 147359 what model video card did you notice it with?
[20:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147359 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "intel 3D artifacts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147359
[20:50] <bryce> seb128: ok; did we identify any existing bug id#'s for this?  that's probably step #1
[20:51] <bryce> bdmurray: 965
[20:51] <tjaalton> bryce: I couldn't find one
[20:51] <bryce> tjaalton: ok thanks
[20:51] <seb128> bryce: no
[20:51] <seb128> should i open one
[20:51] <bdmurray> bryce: and I have 945 so is my bug a duplicate?
[20:52] <seb128> sorry about the limited punctuation, azerty without modifier is funny
[20:53] <bryce> bdmurray: I'd keep it separate.  There's actually a significant difference in the driver between 915-945, and 965
[20:53] <bdmurray> okay
[20:54] <jcristau> missing redirected direct rendering is not a driver issue, though
[20:57] <bryce> seb128: can you open a bug in LP and attach your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, lspci, and ~/.xsession-errors?
[20:58] <seb128> bryce: ok
[20:59] <bdmurray> bryce: The reason I was testing this is because it is listed as test case.  Perhaps it shouldn't be?
[20:59] <bryce> no, it's a good test case
[20:59] <bryce> running glxgears and moving it around turns up a variety of bugs
[21:00] <bryce> unfortunately probably not bugs we can easily do something about yet
[21:01] <bdmurray> perhaps the test case should have a note about bug 147359 then?
[21:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147359 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "intel 3D artifacts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147359
[21:02] <bryce> bdmurray: sure
[21:12] <bdmurray> And this only happens when compiz is enabled right?
[21:12] <jcristau> yes
[21:13] <bdmurray> thanks jcristau
[21:13] <bdmurray> bryce: I've updated the bug summary then
[21:15] <bryce> bdmurray: thanks
[21:22] <seb128> bryce: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/187855
[21:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187855 in xorg "keyboards events generated wrongly create issues" [Undecided,New] 
[21:23] <bryce> seb128: thanks... reviewing
[21:23] <seb128> bryce: nothing interesting in xsession-errors
[21:23] <seb128> is the lspci useful for keyboard issue,
[21:23] <bryce> seb128: ok
[21:23] <seb128> that's a dell latitude
[21:23] <seb128> cant type numbers without shift ;-)
[21:24] <bryce> seb128: feel free to reboot; I think this is enough info for now.  I'll need to do some research before I have more troubleshooting advice
[21:24] <seb128> k
[21:24] <seb128> i did restart the g-s-d and compiz that makes no difference
[21:24] <seb128> and i'm pretty sure there is no key stucked on this keyboard
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #187855 in xorg (main) "keyboards events generated wrongly create issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187855
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #187850 in compiz (main) "intel x3100: screen artifacts (dup-of: 175774)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187850
[21:43] <ubotu> New bug: #185063 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[hardy] ATI Resctricted Drivers cause pc to block on reboot." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185063
[22:50] <bryce> seb128: found your bug in debian bts:  http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/2dfb33a5ec826ea2/7a160deb430814b6?lnk=gst&q=keyboard+modifier#7a160deb430814b6
[22:53] <seb128> bryce: might be the same issue indeed
[22:54] <bryce> I'll summarize some of the findings from the parent bug report, for testing
[22:57] <Q-FUNK> Praha, here we come! :)