[00:00] <d_test> then, i clicked on the install icon, and it took me to the installer
[00:00] <d_test> k, i says manual partition method..
[00:00] <d_test> i select my new partition
[00:00] <seanh> I keep setting the panel_minimized_size to 1 in gconf-editor but nothing's changing
[00:00] <n3uro5i5> anyone has enconding character problems in evolution?
[00:01] <d_test> i do all the steps, and when it goes to install, it just waits and then says couldn't mount '/'
[00:01] <Starnestommy> d_test: did you make a partition that had '/' as a mount point?
[00:01] <d_test> yea, i did that
[00:02] <d_test> now, the install icon isn't working again :|
[00:02] <WaY> does anybody knows any tool like nero for creating and editing dvd menus?
[00:02] <oli> WaY: nero fot linux?
[00:02]  * oli ducks
[00:03] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[00:03] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[00:03] <WaY> but i think that nero for linux doesnt create dvd menus
[00:03] <seanh> Hey -- anyone know why I keep seeing this randomly when using my browser? (but not when I am loading a site, it just pops up randomly when I'm not doing anything) http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/874/screenshotepiphanyxz5.png
[00:03] <xenthro> Q: i just bought an Asus WL-160n usb wifi dongle and I want to get it working w/out ndiswrapper. I can't find any info on what chipset the card uses but I there are win/mac drivers available
[00:04] <nugz1212> just use ndiswrapper then
[00:04] <oli> WaY: if nero and k3b can't - nothing can.
[00:05] <prakriti> when i put 4gb of ram in my box it gets super unstable
[00:05] <prakriti> I know it cant address all of it, but should it get unstable/
[00:05] <prakriti> ?
[00:05] <oli> prakriti: it's difficult to find data in so big amount of mem :>
[00:05] <Juzzy`> I have a problem I need more space on my root partition (/) but i'm not sure how to resize the partition
[00:05] <prakriti> heh
[00:05] <prakriti> Juzzy` : boot off a live cd and run the partition editor
[00:05] <WaY> oli: im going to try qdvdauthor
[00:05] <Juzzy`> ooh ok
[00:06] <Juzzy`> thanks
[00:06] <shaark> Juzzy: use gparted
[00:06] <Juzzy`> can i use gparted without using live cd?
[00:06] <Juzzy`> cause livecd doesn't like my laptop
[00:06] <rsk> Juzzy`: sure
[00:06] <oli> Juzzy`: not on /
[00:06] <Juzzy`> thats what I thought
[00:06] <Juzzy`> since its mounted
[00:07] <Juzzy`> i'll give the livecd a shot
[00:07] <Juzzy`> bbl
[00:07] <Juzzy`> thx guys
[00:08] <d_test> can i install ubuntu without booting live?
[00:09] <oli> d_test: use alternate cd
[00:09] <simps> I've been trying to setup Samba, but I have no been able to see the Ubuntu computer from my Windows or vice versa.
[00:10] <simps> Help would be appreciated :)
[00:10] <d_test> simps: is the samba server on your windows workgroup or vice-versa
[00:11] <simps> on Ubuntu
[00:11] <WillOne> If someone could take a look at this and tell me what size I should make the Linux exchange, I would be greatful: http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8850/supmortomesin2.jpg
[00:11] <d_test> no, like is it set-up for use in your windows workgroup
[00:12] <simps> d_test, I'm not totally sure if I did it right. I just went to System->Administration->Shared Folders, installed the stuff there, and added a folder
[00:12] <d_test> i think you need to setup the workgroup settings
[00:12] <simps> d_test, could you explain how i would do that?
[00:13] <d_test> uhh, i did it in fedora 6 :/
[00:13] <simps> :s
[00:13] <d_test> its different, since they had a nice GUI settings thing
[00:13] <dystopianray> WillOne: 10GB would be more than adequate, depends on how many files you want to store in the linux partition
[00:13] <Sneakernets> Hi, I have a rather unusual question
[00:14] <Jordan_U> Sneakernets, Those are the best kind :)
[00:14] <simps> d_test, do you think the terminology of setting up the workgroup would be the same? could you tell me a few of the things you saw in the GUI that i might be able to locate on Ubuntu :P
[00:14] <Sneakernets> I am trying to run Chocolate doom ( http://www.chocolate-doom.org ) and I'm having problems setting 320x200 and when I set 320x240 all I get is garbled horizontal bars.
[00:14] <Sneakernets> my chipset is SiS SUPER AGPSET
[00:14] <woz> for some reason my laptop screen won't go idle/sleep even though I have it set to go to sleep after 2 minutes. anyone got any suggestions?
[00:15] <awerner32> i have a wine question but nobody in the wine irc wants to answer it and people in the ubuntu one are generably very knowledgeable
[00:15] <d_test> simps: it was in system>settings>administration>samba conf
[00:15] <awerner32>  alright, i have a decent understanding of both how wine works and also the windows registry, would there be a way to import the wine registry keys and neccesary files to a windows install on a seperate partition and thus run apps already installed on that partition. I think it's theoretically possible but what would be the methodology required
[00:15] <dystopianray> Sneakernets: is there a specific need to run chocolate-doom? there are many other doom ports
[00:15] <Sneakernets> and my monitor is a Gateway FPD2185W LCD 1680x1050
[00:15] <soundray> woz: do you have an optical mouse?
[00:15] <Sneakernets> dystopianray: yes, it emulates vanilla as closely as possible
[00:15] <cellofellow> I have an odd problem with my USB headset.
[00:15] <woz> @soundray: yes
[00:16] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: you and everyone else.
[00:16] <Sneakernets> that and I am a tester for it: I usually don't have this issue but with this computer I am
[00:16] <jereme_> anyone running fglrx using the manual install method?
[00:16] <jereme_> I'm having an issue that when X starts, I just get a blank screen and it hangs
[00:16] <dystopianray> Sneakernets: I'd recommend prboom, it matches vanilla doom quite closely
[00:16] <Flare183> !anyone | jereme_
[00:16] <ubotu> jereme_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:16] <d_test> if i have my partitions setup already, whats the easiest way to use it?
[00:16] <soundray> woz: it may be sending spurious movement signals. Try unplugging it. If that works, plug it back in, but turn it on its back.
[00:16] <Sneakernets> i suspect that my xorg driver isn't working
[00:16] <Sneakernets> I can't find any info on my chipset
[00:16] <woz> @soundray: thanks ill try that
[00:16] <cellofellow> My nvidia hda-intel sound card doesn't work, so I have a USB headset. It works, but the only mixer that can set the volume correctly is alsamixer. The gnome stuff doesn't work, and the volume buttons on the headset. Both just send the volume into randome places.
[00:17] <jereme_> well it was part of my question
[00:17] <PcPixel> Does anyone know of a good software package for a high school student to use as an algebra tutor?
[00:17] <soundray> Sneakernets: most recent drivers don't support these low resolutions well
[00:17] <Sneakernets> is there a program I can use to ident my chipset and set xorg settings automatically?
[00:17] <jereme_> I was narrowing the results of my query by eliminating anyone who wouldn't have relevant experience
[00:17] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I was explaining, ok? Sorry if I was too vague.
[00:17] <Sneakernets> soundray: that's not good :(
[00:17] <jeroenimo> ubotu: I wondered that too ... why people are so polite, but imagine when everyon in #ubuntu would reply to "Hello! Can someone help me" ?
[00:18] <Pici> jeroenimo: ubotu is a bot ;)
[00:18] <Flare183> ubotu: is a bot
[00:18] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[00:18] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: if you go into System, Preferences, Sound, it'll show you the default mixer tracks controlled by your volume buttons
[00:18] <jeroenimo> Pici: I saw it after I whoised :P
[00:18] <cellofellow> The headset is a Logitech Premium 350 which works just by the standard USB plug-and-play soundcard stuff.
[00:18] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: ok, I've messed with that already though. Let me see what I have set ATM.
[00:18] <awerner32>  alright, i have a decent understanding of both how wine works and also the windows registry, would there be a way to import the wine registry keys and neccesary files to a windows install on a seperate partition and thus run apps already installed on that partition. I think it's theoretically possible but what would be the methodology required
[00:18] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: it should be set to PCM
[00:18] <Grab> hello
[00:18] <Grab> hope you can help me: i need to open port 828, what is the right command?
[00:18] <Flare183> !repeat | awerner32
[00:18] <ubotu> awerner32: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:19] <newtar> Grab: nc -lp 828 -q1
[00:19] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: set to Logitech USB Headset as the Device, and Speaker as the channel.
[00:19] <newtar> Grab: nc -lp 828
[00:19] <Sneakernets> ok maybe I need to talk to the xorg guys about low res support. :(
[00:19] <jeroenimo> !fun
[00:19] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:19] <Sneakernets> !xorg
[00:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:19] <dystopianray> Grab: it's opened when a program starts listening on that port
[00:19] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: at the bottom though, under default mixer tracks, highlight PCM from the list that should be there.
[00:19] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: underneath of HDA Intel
[00:19] <dystopianray> Sneakernets: have you tried one of the other doom ports?
[00:20] <Sneakernets> no, I shell
[00:20] <xenthro> Q: Where can i get a list of wifi usb dongles that work with ubuntu w/out ndiswrapper?
[00:20] <Sneakernets> *shall
[00:20] <Sneakernets> I know the guy that makes PRBoom plus
[00:20] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: for your HDA intel card, I'm pretty good with those, what chipset is your sound card?
[00:20] <dystopianray> Sneakernets: try prboom, it's my favourite
[00:20] <tyranos> hi , got a question , how can i make the nautilus file browser start windowed and not taking the fullscreen , if i maximize it it gets a pixel wider ,doesnt make sense to me
[00:20] <Sneakernets> alright :)
[00:20] <jeroenimo> xenthro: http://linux-wless.passys.nl
[00:20] <xenthro> ty
[00:20] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: it's SigmaTel STAC9200
[00:20] <dystopianray> Sneakernets: it's in the ubuntu repos
[00:21] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: do you have the backport modules package installed?
[00:21] <Dr_willis> tyranos,  sounds to me like its rembering its last opened size. and not reseting it when you close the window.
[00:21] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: MCP51 High Definition Audio with STAC9200 "codec".
[00:21] <newtar> tyranos: I use this alias: alias ge-nautilus='nautilus --browser "`pwd`" &'
[00:21] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I do.
[00:22] <Sneakernets> dystopianray: so it is! yay, thanks.
[00:22] <mykas0> hi everyone
[00:22] <Sneakernets> I need to talk to the maintainer of chocodoom and see if we can get it submitted to the ubuntu repos when the testing is finished
[00:22] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: Have you tried any of the supposed fixed editing the alsa-base conf file?
[00:22] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: fixes*
[00:22] <telee> so i have a 300 gig HD and 100 gig are already partitioned for windows and i have my second partition with 215 GIGs for ubuntu.... now i am doing it manually and how should i split the rest of the 215 Gigs up for ubuntu.. should it all be ext3 or some ext2 and what about swap... i have 2 gig ram if that matters
[00:23] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: haven't heard that one yet.
[00:23] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: one moment
[00:23] <woz> @soundray: that still doesn't turn the display off
[00:23]  * cellofellow is sort of banking on Hardy fixing lots of stuff.
[00:23] <mykas0> I'm now installing the ubuntu-alternate, and it seems to be stuck on 18% for quite a while, during the "Selecting and installing software"  - is this a known issue?
[00:23] <Yasumoto> mykas0: are you installing on a laptop?
[00:23] <exneo_> hey how do I run the make file in the alsa driver
[00:23] <mykas0> Yasumoto, nope
[00:23] <jimmygoon> Is everyone's xchat working properly? (as in Ctrl+X doesn't try to close it)
[00:23] <mykas0> I'm installing in text mode
[00:23] <Dr_willis> telee,  no need to use ext2, how to do it - depends onyour needs.   You may want to put a little swap partition. (like 512mb) at the end just in case you ever need swap.
[00:24] <tyranos> Dr_willis, i dont think so , i got that same answer from someone else months ago , but i m pretty sure it s not the case , and how can it remember some size it was never set to  :( !!!
[00:24] <beasty> mm anyone knows in what repo 'ldap account manager' is in ?
[00:24] <soundray> woz: do you use the inhibit applet?
[00:24] <Yasumoto> mykas0: did you do the "check CD for errors" check before installing?
[00:24] <Stargazer> My printer isn't printing, when i hit "print" any ideas ?
[00:24] <exneo_> yasumoto how do I run the make file in the alsa driver its not a bash scrip
[00:24] <mykas0> Yasumoto, yes, I did
[00:24] <woz> @soundray: whats that?
[00:24] <telee> Dr_Willis: so basically ill just use it as a desktop and mythtv
[00:24] <Dr_willis> tyranos,  ive seen cases where its happened.    But i rarely use the gnome file manager much.
[00:24] <tyranos> what do u use ??
[00:24] <Yasumoto> mykas0: hm, interesting. have you tried to run it again?
[00:25] <dirkg3nt1y> exneo, have you tried ./configure first?
[00:25] <mykas0> Yasumoto, it's my second time attempting this installion - before, I had the very same problem
[00:25] <Dr_willis> telee,  for mythtv you might want to have a large partition set for /mythtv or for your recordings directory then. the #mythbuntu guys will proberly be able to guide you.
[00:25] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: is it a dell inspiron laptop by any chance?
[00:25] <Dr_willis> tyranos,  i tend to use mc in a terminal :)
[00:25] <cellofellow> No, gateway.
[00:25] <soundray> woz: it's a gnome applet that you can use to disable screensaving -- e.g. when you're watching a movie. I thought you might have set it to inhibit-mode inadvertently
[00:25] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: Gateway MT3423
[00:25] <Yasumoto> mykas0: darn :/ I tried to install on my mother's laptop and it would hang at 57% each time
[00:25] <woz> @soundray: any way for me to check that? i.e. a config file
[00:25] <mykas0> how did you fixed it?
[00:25] <Yasumoto> mykas0: turned out it was a bad hard drive
[00:26] <telee> so Dr_willis thanks
[00:26] <soundray> woz: not really -- you would probably know if you had it on your panel
[00:26] <mykas0> hum, that can't happen here - I tried installing it in a virtual machine too, and had the same problem
[00:26] <Yasumoto> mykas0: try searching launchpad or the forums for "installer hangs"
[00:27] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: try a 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base', should open a config file
[00:27] <woz> soundray: is it possible that folding@home or pidgin is preventing it from going to idle?
[00:27] <hellues> hey
[00:27] <hellues> i ave a quenstion
[00:27] <soundray> woz: I'd say that's unlikely
[00:27] <hellues> i am using firefox 3.0 gran paradiso
[00:27] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: got it
[00:27] <woz> soundray: ive tried killing both of those apps and unplugging the mouse to no avail.
[00:27] <hellues> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/NSS_3_11_RTM/ i şnstalled nss 3.11
[00:28] <Yasumoto> mykas0: (i would check but I
[00:28] <hellues> but how can i work nss 3.11
[00:28] <Yasumoto> mykas0: *i'm in class right now)
[00:28] <Strangework> I accidentally deleted something with shift+del, is there any way to get the stuff back??
[00:28] <mykas0> ok
[00:28] <dirkg3nt1y> hellues, is firefox 3 better and the acid test the 2.0?
[00:28] <Juzzy`> hi guys, managed to get gparted open but it won't let me resize the partition
[00:28] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: try adding 'options snd-hda-intel model=5stack' in with the other "options" lines, underneath of the last one.
[00:28] <dystopianray> Strangework: restore from backup, otherwise no
[00:28] <Strangework> DAMN!
[00:28] <Strangework> ah well. thank you anyways
[00:29] <hellues> i dont know
[00:29] <shaark> juzzy:is there a lock icon next to the partition u want to resize?
[00:29] <soundray> woz: and you haven't got a second pointing device, like a trackpad or tablet?
[00:29] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: now what?
[00:29] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: you will unfortunately have to restart in order to see if it worked, after you save the file.
[00:29] <hellues> what is acid test
[00:29] <mykas0> can anyone help me, then? :\
[00:29] <Juzzy`> yes shaark
[00:29] <woz> soundray: only the touchpad on my laptop
[00:29] <soundray> woz: ah
[00:29] <hellues> dirkg3nt1y,  what is acid test
[00:29] <shaark> Juzzy: that partition is in use then u can't resize it
[00:29] <Juzzy`> i've tried unmouning the partition and then doing it
[00:29] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: actually, this file is really messy (I shink asoundconf has something to do with that.) Where can I get a clean one?
[00:29] <Juzzy`> but it still won't allow me
[00:30] <soundray> woz: try installing gsynaptics and disabling the trackpad. You have to make a modification to /etc/X11/xorg.conf for it to work
[00:30] <bazhang> http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/ hellues
[00:30] <shaark> Juzzy: did u try it from the live cd?
[00:30] <Juzzy`> yup thats what i'm using now
[00:30] <soundray> woz: I mean touchpad
[00:30] <Juzzy`> live cd (with the safe mode gfx)
[00:30] <woz> soundray: alright
[00:30] <shaark> Juzzy: try downloading the gpartd live cd that should work
[00:30] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: everyone's is quite messy, I assure you. it's best not to alter it
[00:31] <Juzzy`> shaark: I could probably just redo my linux install but i don't wanna mess up grub
[00:31] <woz> soundray: alright i installed gsynaptics and now im in the xorg.conf file, what should i edit
[00:31] <shaark> Juzzy: just try the gpartd live cd that should solve it and its a small download too
[00:31] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I restarted alsasound and alsa-utils with init.d, and I now have no sound.
[00:32] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I think if I tell to use my headset again it'll be fine.
[00:32] <dirkg3nt1y> hellues, the acid test tests how well a browser sticks to web standards: http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html
[00:32] <osotogari> i have just edited /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, do i have to reboot to load the blacklist?
[00:32] <Juzzy`> shaark: If I used the text-based installer cd would I be able to resize the partition there and reinstall ubuntu onto it?
[00:32] <bazhang> heh
[00:32] <hellues> http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html#top
[00:32] <nemilar> osotogari: yeah, but you can just do 'sudo modprobe [module name]' and it will load it
[00:32] <hellues> whats this
[00:32] <hellues> :D
[00:32] <nemilar> osotogari: then you don't need to reboot
[00:33] <shaark> Juzzy: sorry haven't tried that before
[00:33] <Juzzy`> k
[00:33] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: uh oh. My headset isn't in `asoundconf list` anymore.
[00:33] <hellues> it is a face of cat
[00:33] <hellues> muhshshshhshs
[00:33] <osotogari> but i thought blacklist is to stop drivers from loading?
[00:33] <nemilar> Juzzy`: yeah you can resize partitions using the text-based installer... but I hope you are very comfortable with the command line
[00:33] <hellues> what does that mean
[00:33] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: you can try replacing the model=5stack with some other options, there are a lot of them.
[00:33] <dirkg3nt1y> hellues, it means firefox 3 is a hell of a lot better the firefox 2
[00:33] <nemilar> !ohmy
[00:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:34] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: never mind, just replugging it it helped.
[00:34] <Dr_willis> osotogari,  if a module is in the blacklist file - it wont automatically get loaded. You can still manually load it. I belive.
[00:34] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: hehe, good.
[00:34] <hellues> firefox 3 better then 2
[00:34] <hellues> hmm
[00:34] <woz> soundray: any idea what lines to edit on xorg.conf?
[00:34] <nemilar> hellues: it's still in beta though... on my install it is not stable at all.
[00:34] <pfarshim> ls
[00:34] <boinker> does anybody know how to install the wacom tablets...i tried doing it the usual way but x always messes up...whats the new setup anyone have any clues??
[00:34] <Talon> I saw a video a while ago were when you open a window it goes up in flames, does anyone know what thats called ?
[00:34] <nemilar> Talon: that's compiz
[00:34] <nemilar> !compiz
[00:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[00:35] <Talon> OHh, so its built into that i gotta enable that some how :)
[00:35] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I'm not to interested in getting the nvidia card working right away. I bet a clean install of Hardy will do more good than all this fiddling. I just can't figure out why only alsamixer can set the volume of this card properly.
[00:35] <boinker> the whole xorg.conf file has changed....so im thinking maybe the setup of wacom tablets have changed too...does anyone have any clue whats going on??
[00:35] <osotogari> @ Dr. Willis: Ok, what if it is already loaded, say the garmin_gps module has been black listed. Do I have to restart to prevent this from being loaded or can I reload my modules without a restart?
[00:35] <nemilar> Talon: correct, read the links above
[00:35] <boinker> anyone know at all?
[00:35] <nemilar> osotogari: rmmod is the command to remove a module
[00:35] <hellues> this cat is smiling in opera to
[00:35] <hellues> :D
[00:35] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I mean the USB headset, not the nvidia hda card. (That seems to mix fine, just not play one peep.)
[00:36] <nemilar> hellues: opera has the best standards-compliancy of all the browsers
[00:36] <osotogari> @nemilar: thanks :)
[00:36] <Wiredtape_Away> hey, I'm trying to decide between ubuntu server edition or desktop edition.. I do plan to run an AMP setup on it, however, I also need some desktop stuff.. which way to go?
[00:36] <nemilar> osotogari: welcome
[00:36] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: I have a plantronics USB headset I could never get working properly either. The audio was fine, but recording never worked.
[00:36] <nemilar> Wiredtape_Away: desktop can run all the LAMP stuff just fine
[00:36] <Wiredtape_Away> nemilar, so what's special about the server edition?
[00:36] <nemilar> Wiredtape_Away: if you need the desktop stuff, install the desktop version
[00:36] <Stargazer> Printer not printing, and google isn't helping
[00:37] <soundray> woz: add this line to the InputDevice section that pertains to your touchpad: Option "SHMConfig" "true"
[00:37] <nemilar> Wiredtape_Away: it's got less bulk, none of the desktop apps like openoffice.org
[00:37] <soundray> woz: you will have to restart X
[00:37] <woz_> soundray: k
[00:37] <hellues> nemilar,  i cant use flash plugin in opera
[00:37] <nemilar> hellues: that makes two of us
[00:37] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: my problem is using the GNOME mixer, the volume buttons on my keyboard, or the volume buttons on the headse (which are hard to avoid hitting) are sporadic. Pushing up will cause the volume will go up and down, randomly muting and unmuting the left earphone.
[00:37] <Wiredtape_Away> nemilar, ok, thanks!
[00:37] <hellues> althrough i installed flash plugin
[00:37] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: only alsamixer works, which is a bit annoying.
[00:37] <nemilar> Wiredtape_Away: welcome
[00:38] <hellues> while installing i asks for mozilla but not ask for opera
[00:38] <hellues> .D
[00:38] <woz_> soundray: what will SHMConfig = true do to my touchpad?
[00:39] <soundray> woz_: it needs to be set to activate the configuration interface to your touchpad that gsynaptics uses
[00:39] <spithra> hello
[00:39] <woz_> soundray: alright, restarting
[00:40] <nemilar> it got quiet all of a sudden
[00:40] <emma> sudo apt-get install VLC
[00:40] <emma> is that the way I should do that?
[00:40] <Flare183> yeah really
[00:40] <emma> If I want to get VLC?
[00:40] <nemilar> emma: yup, that works
[00:40] <spithra> i new, so I installed ubuntu 6.06.  Is there a gui already installed or do I have to get one?
[00:40] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: on a side note, do you know how ESD works? Does it make it so that more than one or two programs can make sound at once?
[00:40] <Pici> emma: lowercase vlc
[00:40] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: that is really odd. Your default mixer is set to the usb headset and it won't change the volume that way?
[00:40] <nemilar> emma: I donno if it's case sensitive though
[00:40] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: it will, just sporadically.
[00:40] <nemilar> spithra: Ubuntu comes with Gnome, a desktop environment (GUI)
[00:41] <emma> I want to get somethign that will open the live video here -- http://www.cnn.com/
[00:41] <woz_> @soundray: alright now that ive restarted, what should i try? or should i just see if it will sleep now
[00:41] <spithra> <nemilar- so whats the command to run it
[00:42] <spithra> cause im just prompt with cammand line
[00:42] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: pulseaudio is actually supposed to do the same thing as ESD, only better
[00:42] <woz_> soundray: alright now that ive restarted, what should i try? or should i just see if it will sleep now
[00:42] <Flare183> I"m back anybody need some help with anything linux/software related
[00:42] <soundray> woz_: have a bit of patience before you repeat
[00:42] <phuzion> hahahahaha holy crap what just happened?  I have compiz installed, and I just saw my xchat network tree fly by for no reason at all...
[00:42] <woz_> soundray: hmm?
[00:42] <awerner32> emma, cnn uses a proprietary plugin to stream teh video which has no linux equivilent
[00:42] <soundray> woz_: start gsynaptics and disable the touchpad
[00:42] <nemilar> spithra: what was your question again?
[00:43] <Flare183> phuzion: it's called lag
[00:43] <spithra> run a gui
[00:43] <emma> Flare183,  I might. .I need to be able to watch the republican debate on www.cnn.com
[00:43] <spiiph> Hi. I'm trying to configure tikiwiki, using database setup with dbconfig-common. However, The configuration keeps trying to setup the database without asking me for the database administration password. Is there some option to dbconfig-common I have missed to set?
[00:43] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: well, there are (correct me if I'm wrong) like four high-level sound API's: jack, esd, arts, and pulseaudio. And so few programs seem to actually support them.
[00:43] <nemilar> spithra: gnome will startup automatically
[00:43] <woz_> soundray: i didnt know if putting @ in front of the name showed up as a message for you. beginner with xchat.
[00:43] <Flare183> emma: ok does it use flash or what one sec i look
[00:43] <phuzion> Flare183, I don't think so, my system runs fine, C2D E4500 with 2GB of RAM and a GeForce 8600 GTS
[00:44] <d_test> k, im seriously mad at this installer..
[00:44] <d_test> it won't work!
[00:44] <Flare183> phuzion: no internet lag
[00:44] <bazhang> phuzion: network lag
[00:44] <Flare183> as in internet lag
[00:44] <spithra> nemilar> it doesnt
[00:44] <soundray> woz_: whether or not it highlights is a function of my IRC client, not yours...
[00:44] <d_test> it just disapears after a while
[00:44] <woz_> soundray: ahh ok
[00:45] <woz_> soundray: alright im gonna give it a shot
[00:45] <Flare183> emma: ok i'm on the cnn.com's site
[00:45] <sneakmonkey> hey
[00:45] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I wish there was an X11 extension for sound, or something like that. Any X11 (or GTK or OpenGL) program could then use it.
[00:45] <phuzion> Flare183 and bazhang you guys know what I'm talking about, the network tree, where it shows what networks and channels you are talking about, right?  that shouldn't be affected by network lag
[00:45] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: ossv4 is actually worth looking into as well
[00:45] <emma> Flare183,  cool. I hope to be able to watch the debate. So I can see Ron Paul.
[00:45] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: oh, I forgot about OpenAL for games too.
[00:45] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: i used it instead of ALSA for a while when i was running into the same problems you are now.
[00:45]  * cellofellow gives emma a high-five!
[00:45] <bazhang> oftopic emma
[00:45] <emma> :D
[00:46] <Flare183> phuzion: oh yeah I know
[00:46] <oich> how can I install a python module using easy_install, without setpping on ubuntu's package manager files?
[00:46] <Flare183> :)
[00:46] <d_test> can anyone guide me to install ubuntu?!
[00:46] <Flare183> !install | d_test
[00:46] <ubotu> d_test: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:46] <zed_> hi, I screwed up and removed udev instead of rewriting it with the apt-get remove command
[00:46] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I also have some problems with OSS emulation. How the heck do I configure that?
[00:47] <lanzelloth> !wireless
[00:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:47] <emma> Flare183,  is there any known way to watch the CNN stream with Ubuntu?
[00:47] <mykas0> I'm now installing the ubuntu-alternate, and it seems to be stuck on 18% for quite a while, during the "Selecting and installing software"  - is this a known issue?
[00:47] <zed_> anyone know how I can reload it from the disk?
[00:47] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: i was never any good with regular OSS sorry :(
[00:47] <d_test> Flare183: not there
[00:47] <Flare183> emma: don't know yet seems that it is "incompatible right now
[00:47] <soundray> mykas0: no, it probably means that your burn failed
[00:47] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I need for a couple of programs, like I would really like to be able to use Audacity to record both input and output without regard for device.
[00:47] <d_test> it just disappears after a while
[00:47] <emma> ohoh
[00:47] <Flare183> d_test: what do you mean the entire this is the guide
[00:47] <d_test> very, very annoying
[00:47] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: oh, well.
[00:48] <mykas0> soundray, I tried using the ISO by itself, in a Virtual Machine, and it doesn't work either. I also checked for errors, and it displays none
[00:48] <woz_> soundray: display still stays on
[00:48] <d_test> the installer says, installing system, then just closes after a while
[00:48] <eric> hey people
[00:48] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: As far as I know, OSS emulation is a part of ALSA where stuff going through /dev/dsp is routed through ALSA instead of directly through OSS.
[00:48] <eric> i just installed ubuntu
[00:48] <soundray> woz_: sorry I can't seem to help
[00:48] <eric> and irssi
[00:48] <woz_> soundray: alright, thanks anyways
[00:49] <woz_> Why won't my display go to sleep after 2 minutes?
[00:49] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: do you have the alsa-oss wrapper package?
[00:49] <zed_> anyone know how to reload the kernel from the disk without having to re-install?
[00:49] <mykas0> arg, this sure is a huge problem ;___;
[00:49] <awerner32> emma: it can be done through wine and a windows browser
[00:49] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: great call
[00:49] <emma> Hm... Wine!
[00:49] <emma> Okay.. hmmmm.
[00:49] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: that may solve some issues hehe
[00:50] <emma> a windows browser though..
[00:50] <Talon> [Stupid Question] whats the default '<Super>' button ?
[00:50] <emma> So wine and IE?
[00:50] <realityiswhere> Talon: the windows key between control and alt
[00:50] <Talon> Thanks mate
[00:50] <nugz1212> hey whenever i hit ctrl-alt-backspace or logout everything goes away except for the wallpaper and it freezes, what can i don to correct this?
[00:50] <fluvvell> zed_ : reload the kernel in what respect?
[00:50] <nugz1212> do*
[00:50] <bad_cables> anyone seen the issues with the rt61 wireless PCI driver?
[00:50] <soundray> zed_: you want to reinstall the kernel .deb package?
[00:50] <eric> don't know if i should ask this but does anyone know of a good torrent program for ubuntu?
[00:50] <zed_> I want to reinstall the udev package
[00:51] <realityiswhere> eric: deluge, transmission, azureus
[00:51] <nugz1212> eric transmisson
[00:51] <zed_> I think it took the kernel  with it
[00:51] <eric> i thought transmission was for mac os x only/
[00:51] <eric> ?
[00:51] <nugz1212> sry transmission, its my favorite
[00:51] <bad_cables> i compiled the module and installed it, i even blacklisted my old one now when i reboot it shows 0% strength on all available networks
[00:51] <realityiswhere> eric: it's in the repos
[00:51] <zed_> so now I can't boot
[00:51] <eric> nice thanks realityiswhere.
[00:51] <nugz1212> would reinstalling GDM packages solve my problem?
[00:51] <emma> I do have wine installed, but how do I load IE (from my windows partition) through Wine?
[00:51] <soundray> zed_: did you uninstall udev?
[00:51] <zed_> yes
[00:52] <zed_> I screwed up
[00:52] <soundray> zed_: can you boot from a live CD?
[00:52] <zed_> there right now
[00:52] <cellofellow> nugz1212: probably a bad X.Org configuration.
[00:52] <nugz1212> no its not tht
[00:52] <fluvvell> zed_: where does it get to in the boot sequence?
[00:52] <zed_> error 15
[00:52] <zed_> nothing else
[00:52] <eric> alright. i'm gonna go on my mac. brb.
[00:52] <Flare183> emma: in the program files folder
[00:52] <matt3243> can anyone help me out with my wireless connection? it seems to drop out every 5 or 10 minutes.... really frustrating, WPA ASCII key, DLink router, Linksys Nic, 802.11G
[00:52] <soundray> zed_: can you mount the root partition?
[00:52] <Flare183> emma: got that?
[00:52] <nugz1212> default xorg.conf does the same thing, and ive tried many kernels all with same problems
[00:52] <emma> Flare183,  you mean the wine program files?
[00:53] <zed_> I think so
[00:53] <emma> I only have one program in there.
[00:53] <awerner32> emma: you could either try to mount the windows partition and make that work by jsut running the binaries but that has problems with registry inconsistancies generall, i recomend just downloading the windows version of firefox or opera in linux and install it onto your wine psuedo-install and then install flashplayer
[00:53] <soundray> zed_: is that grub error 15?
[00:53] <emma> How do I include IE as one of the files in my Wine program files?
[00:53] <Flare183> emma: yeah either that or windows's partition's program files (if applicatable)
[00:53] <zed_> yes
[00:53] <emma> Okay I'll download the windows firefox.
[00:53] <Flare183> ok
[00:53] <emma> I'm not sure how do I get wine to execute it though if you get me.
[00:54] <emma> Where am I supposed to save windows firefox too?
[00:54] <mykas0> I'm now installing the ubuntu-alternate, and it seems to be stuck on 18% for quite a while, during the "Selecting and installing software". What should I do, if I'm using an ISO and it has no errors?
[00:54] <awerner32> yeah ubuntu will actually run the exe installer by default
[00:54] <awerner32> emma: your desktop works
[00:54] <ThreeFingerPete> I have a novel question(I hope). with windows xp, much past 2 gigs of ram windows doesnt make any use of it. what about ubuntu?
[00:54] <awerner32> emma: anywhere because it's a self-extracting cabinent that will extract by default onto your wine drive
[00:54] <Linuxishaw1> Does anyone know if can make moblock run only on one interface?
[00:55] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i insrall the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all tha
[00:55] <hellues> quenstion
[00:55] <emma> Okay that sounds promising
[00:55] <hellues> what is dom inspector
[00:55] <awerner32> emma: it's the same process as installing an app in windows
[00:55] <^Elfboy> or can i set up in ssh
[00:55] <fluvvell> emma: look into ie4linux, it does it all for you.
[00:55] <soundray> ThreeFingerPete: if you have a 64bit CPU (e.g. Core 2 Duo), you can install the amd64 version of Ubuntu and use RAM up to a few terabytes
[00:55] <shaark> ThreeFingerPete: use 64bit release
[00:55] <hellues> firefox-3.0-dom-inspector
[00:55] <hellues> what is dom-inspector
[00:55] <emma> says it cannot be done
[00:55] <hellues> :D
[00:56] <emma> says there is no suitable thing to open firefoxsetup .exe
[00:56] <v> is there an equivalent of pidgin-rhythmbox for vlc?
[00:56] <soundray> ThreeFingerPete: the i386 version has the same issue -- it's an addressing problem.
[00:56] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i insrall the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[00:56] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray: thank you. so I could actually emulate a swap in the remaining ram?
[00:57] <syntaxerror55> The_entropy: however, just like 64-bit XP, some things cannot be used on 64-bit Ubuntu. From the soudn of things, you're using 32bit XP
[00:57] <soundray> ThreeFingerPete: no
[00:57] <sneakmonkey> hello, i have a question about the how to install off of a flash drive tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[00:57] <jimmygoon> What would cause a random application to exit on Ctrl+X?
[00:57] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray: thanks. I was thinking I could because the bios detects it
[00:57] <awerner32> emma: go to a command line and type wine "/path/to/firefox.exe"
[00:57] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i insrall the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[00:57] <syntaxerror55> ThreeFingerPete: the above was directed at you
[00:57] <hellues> dom-inspector
[00:58] <mouseboyx> Jimmygoon, if ctrl+X is the shortcut for quitting.
[00:58] <sneakmonkey> about the preparing the Flash Drive with isotostick.sh, im not fully clear on how to do that part, i downloaded the files it links to but dont know where to go from there
[00:58] <^Elfboy> ????
[00:58] <jimmygoon> mouseboyx, no, and I'm the only person having trouble with this program - I'm having it in both the ubuntu version and compiled from src
[00:58] <CarlF1> how can I get "search pw.com" added to /etc/resolve.conf each time it gets created ?
[00:58] <ThreeFingerPete> syntaxerror55: that is correct, 32 bit xp
[00:58] <Jangari> does anyone know if there's a program that can concatenate sound files? pcm wav?
[00:59] <syntaxerror55> ThreeFingerPete: such as: Flash won't work, and some other stuff.
[00:59] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[00:59] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: I think to get ALSA OSS to work I need to get rid of real OSS.
[00:59] <ThreeFingerPete> syntaxerror55: whats that about flash?
[00:59] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com sneakmonkey
[00:59] <Flare183> !repeat | ^Elfboy
[00:59] <ubotu> ^Elfboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:59] <soundray> syntaxerror55, ThreeFingerPete: Adobe Flash plugin works fine on my 64bit machine
[00:59] <jack-desktop> how do you make a file executable?
[01:00] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: i believe that is true as well, it's a wrapper for OSS so it's still using alsa
[01:00] <jack-desktop> somethig 666?
[01:00] <soundray> !flash64 | ThreeFingerPete
[01:00] <ubotu> ThreeFingerPete: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:00] <Flare183> jack-desktop: bad number
[01:00] <cellofellow> realityiswhere: andy idea what to remove?
[01:00] <emma> Didn't work.
[01:00] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray and syntax: flash plug in is fine on mine too
[01:00] <jack-desktop> Flare183, do you know how?
[01:00] <Flare183> emma: that's whack
[01:00] <zed_> soundray can I copy a initrd from the disk to the hd?
[01:00] <emma> I have firefox.exe on my windows partition but I don't know how to point wine to it
[01:00] <syntaxerror55> soundray: I'm a bit behind on the times, then
[01:00] <soundray> ThreeFingerPete: but you haven't got a 64bit OS
[01:00] <Flare183> jack-desktop: yeah use chmod
[01:00] <tdrusk> whats the new remote desktop program in hardy?
[01:01] <Flare183> jack-desktop: check out man chmod
[01:01] <syntaxerror55> emma: wine /windows/path/to/firefox.exe
[01:01] <jack-desktop> Flare183, what number?
[01:01] <Flare183> jack-desktop: 777
[01:01] <soundray> syntaxerror55: it's certainly not thanks to Adobe and their backwards support policy ;)
[01:01] <jimmygoon> mouseboyx, I figured it out. I had dvorak keyboard installed BUT NOT IN USE... and when I disabled it the problem went away..... is ctrl some modfiied for "switch keyboard layout"?
[01:01] <Flare183> jack-desktop: that means everyone can run it, read it and, write to it
[01:01] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray: it seems that way.
[01:01] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:01] <awerner32> emma: you may have to moung the windows partition too, but generally running in wine applications installed from a different windows install will lead to major problems because windows applications are tied to the registry and wine addresses it
[01:01] <soundray> zed_: no, but you can regenerate it -- hold on
[01:01] <Flare183> emma: try opera then
[01:02] <jack-desktop> Flare183, so: sudo chmod 777 <file>?
[01:02] <awerner32> emma: it's own registry
[01:02] <syntaxerror55> soundray: Still, I don't recommend the AMD64, because other apps don't work that I can't remember as I've never used AMD64 Ubuntu, just seen people complain here.
[01:02] <Flare183> jack-desktop: yeah....
[01:02] <emma> Well it just didn't work out .
[01:02] <awerner32> emma: so it is better to install the app onto the wine psuedo-windows
[01:02] <lanzelloth_> hi, i need help with centrino platform wireless card
[01:02] <zed_> even if I unload the kernel when I ran apt-get remove udev?
[01:02] <emma> The debate is starting so I have to switch over to Microsoft for tonight.
[01:02] <Flare183> emma: ok i would still try wine's ie
[01:03] <realityiswhere> cellofellow: maybe you don't. there seems to be no specific OSS package that doesn't also involve alsa
[01:03] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, Basically, 99.999% of Open Source projects support 64 bit, the problems come from proprietary stuff
[01:03] <^Elfboy> i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:03] <Jangari> emma, i might have missed something, but can't you use firefox in ubuntu?
[01:03] <awerner32> emma: i just finished an ie4linux install, let me check if i can get cnn to work with it
[01:03] <emma> Ok.
[01:03] <ssf>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[01:03] <Flare183> Jangari: no becuase the cnn site won't let her
[01:03] <Dr_willis> zsnes dosent support 64bit - due to its use of assembly language in the code. :(
[01:03] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: that is necessary to using computers.
[01:03] <Jangari> oh!
[01:03] <Jangari> i know
[01:03] <soundray> syntaxerror55: it used to be a real issue. With gutsy, it still takes a bit of trickery, but everything so far has worked for me, including googleearth and skype, all owing to the work of the good Medibuntu people
[01:03] <Flare183> !spam | ssf
[01:03] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray: by flash you mean shockwave games? youtube flv and things work just fine on my intel 32bit
[01:03] <emma> www.cnn.com  has a live stream that I can't get Ubuntu to work with.
[01:03] <ubotu> ssf: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !English - and most importantly, use common sense...
[01:03] <Jangari> get that extension for firefox where you can make your browser appear as IE
[01:03] <syntaxerror55> soundray: ah, I'm still using Dapper. I'm sorry
[01:03] <ssf> thanks
[01:04] <Flare183> no problem
[01:04] <Jangari> if that is indeed the problem
[01:04] <bruenig> Jangari, agent switcher?
[01:04] <linchapulin> I have been perusing some of the /usr/doc folders to create a batch of links to what I thought would be most of the in depth documentation for everything installed on my system. Why is it some folders only contain files that are .gz and don't really contain any meaningful information?
[01:04] <Jangari> something like that, bruenig
[01:04] <Jordan_U> syntaxerror55, No it's not. People ( mostly crazy, but people none the less ) get along with gnusense
[01:04] <soundray> syntaxerror55: what for ;)
[01:04] <Roberto> hi people.. does anyone here understand about RAID to help me to configure Grub?
[01:04] <shaark> Jordan_U: ca?n 32 bit apps work on AMD64
[01:04] <Flare183> !raid
[01:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:04] <bruenig> Jangari, but it may not be an agent problem
[01:04] <jimmygoon> Can anyone else confirm a bug : When having another keyboard layout available (like Dvorak) even when not in use.... causes Ctrl+X to fire the event for Ctrl+Q etc?
[01:04] <Flare183> bug 1
[01:04] <Flare183> !bug 1
[01:04] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[01:04] <Jangari> right, i was just about to say that if it was a flash thing, then it's a little bit more of an issue
[01:05] <Flare183> haha
[01:05] <Jordan_U> shaark, Yes, usually using a 32 bit chroot
[01:05] <linchapulin> In other words where does some of this documentation disappear to? Seems crazy to have to look at synaptic everytime I need to ferret out the docs?
[01:05] <wweasel> !flash
[01:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[01:05] <^Elfboy>  i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:06] <unicum> i have a problem with my windowlist
[01:06] <Dr_willis> looks like cnn.com is using winows media player for its video.
[01:06] <syntaxerror55> Jordan_U: alright, I rest my case. but it did used to be a real issue.
[01:06] <unicum> i kicked the one that was in the panel after the fresh installation out
[01:06] <awerner32> emma: i got an install of opera in wine working perfectly with the cnn live feed on linux
[01:06] <unicum> now i put one in the panel again.. thing is.. the windows don't appear as icon anymore, but more like a button
[01:06] <awerner32> emma: it is definately doable
[01:06] <ThreeFingerPete> what is broken about flash? it works fine for me in gutsy
[01:07] <Flare183> !flashissues
[01:07] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> ThreeFingerPete, New installs are broken
[01:07] <Juzzy`> I have succesfully used gparted to resize the partition, I have now rebooted into the ubuntu install and it shows the new size of the partition but it also still shows the same amount of free space left (like its automatically used up the space i gave it)
[01:07] <unicum> also.. if i klick on the button the window will not shrink into this button, like in the windows systray but instad falls down to the lower panel
[01:07] <^Elfboy> why  would u want to run  opera in win
[01:07] <feierfox> hello! i have some problems with my ubuntu, is Mark Shuttleworth for help me to fix it? I think, he is the guy behind ubuntu...
[01:07] <^Elfboy> wine
[01:07] <Flare183> Juzzy`: duh you must resize the other one too
[01:07] <ThreeFingerPete> Jordan_U, thanks. good thing I had it installed!
[01:07] <feierfox> +here
[01:07] <unicum> how do i get the window list to be like the one it was after installation?
[01:07] <feierfox> helping
[01:07] <Juzzy`> other one?
[01:07] <Flare183> holy cow
[01:08] <feierfox> no, i guess only mark Shuttleworth is able to help me
[01:08] <^Elfboy>  i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:08] <feierfox> HE is THE ubuntu guy, right?
[01:08] <Flare183> feierfox: yeap
[01:08] <unicum> well, thx anyway
[01:08] <Flare183> feierfox: the main dude who started it all
[01:08] <ThreeFingerPete> feierfox: hes the patron of the ubuntu project
[01:08] <unicum> is anyone actually reading me?
[01:08] <feierfox> so, i will wait for him for helping me with my problem
[01:08] <ThreeFingerPete> unicum, i can read you
[01:08] <^Elfboy> lol
[01:09] <Flare183> feierfox: dude i don't think i will even help you
[01:09] <Juzzy`> Flare183, I have resized the / partition to 20gb, but it still shows the same amount of free space
[01:09] <^Elfboy>  i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> unicum,   i see ya. but no idea what youa re talking about
[01:09] <eugman> Is there anything for reading pdf's from the command line?
[01:09] <unicum> k, so i'm not ignored by the channel
[01:09] <Tm_T> feierfox: no he will not be here to help you here
[01:09] <shaark> feierfox: I doubt he does the support lol
[01:09] <Flare183> Juzzy`: try creating another partition then
[01:09] <unicum> well.. i'm using ubuntu/gnome
[01:09] <feierfox> don care about a drunken german ;/
[01:09] <levander> Is there no way to have my GNOME panels show up on one workspace, but not on another?
[01:09] <ThreeFingerPete> unicum: nope, but i am a newb, and no help to you
[01:09] <unicum> u might know the panels (like taskbars)
[01:09] <soundray> unicum: move your window list around a bit. It may not have enough space
[01:09] <bad_cables> anyone in here know why RaLink RT2561/RT61 wireless is seeing 0% signal strength?
[01:09] <K_Dallas> Good evening guys! I look into a site where it explained how to open docx (word2007) in openoffice but the link it had for convertor or so was dead.  Is this the only way to do so far and is it reliable? thanks (the page was for use in ubuntu gusty)
[01:09] <Flare183> admins: Kinda stupid question: is Mark Shuttleworth around to talk
[01:09] <bad_cables> i just installed the new rt61 driver
[01:10] <jetscreamer> lol
[01:10] <^Elfboy>  i was woundering if i install  the server pac do i have to hook up a monater and all that do i have to pulug in monater mouse and k-bore?
[01:10] <^Elfboy> come one
[01:10] <^Elfboy> some one had to know this
[01:10] <Juzzy`> ^Elfboy,  learn to spell, it helps people out
[01:10] <Flare183> yeah really
[01:10] <PriceChild> Flare183, he's away atm.
[01:10] <unicum> soundray thing is.. the windowlist shows buttons instead of icons.. if i have only one window open the button is as big as the list itself.. if i have multiple windows open the buttons get smaller and smaller
[01:10] <soundray> K_Dallas: docx files open reasonably well in OOo 2.3 without any add-ons
[01:10] <Flare183> PriceChild: that figures
[01:10] <bad_cables> does anyone here know about wireless?
[01:11] <Dr_willis> ^Elfboy,  you may want to fix all those typos.. Im not even sure what you are asking...
[01:11] <bad_cables> im  having issues
[01:11] <K_Dallas> soundray, well i give it a try. what about pptx ?
[01:11] <mouseboyx> unicum, If you play with it it will eventualy work.
[01:11] <unicum> the "default window list" has icons for the windows and resizes itself with the number of windows
[01:11] <Flare183> feierfox: see
[01:11] <ThreeFingerPete> soundray, syntax55 and others: thanks for your help. bye!
[01:11] <soundray> K_Dallas: haven't tried
[01:11] <Flare183> oh nevermind
[01:11] <soundray> ThreeFingerPete: good luck
[01:11] <unicum> mouseboyx sure? like just playing with the size?
[01:11] <mouseboyx> I don't know, set it back to the default?
[01:11] <oich> does python easy_install interfere with dpkg?
[01:12] <K_Dallas> soundray, i think pptx was more complicated but i try it again when i boot back to linux, thanks
[01:12] <unicum> there is no such option in the preferences
[01:12] <^Elfboy> i i want to know if i need to plug in mon mouse  k-board to set up the server pack
[01:12] <Slade^^> #kicevo
[01:12] <Slade^^> :)
[01:12] <unicum> as i said.. i deleted the old one
[01:12] <linchapulin> Is there an IDE for Ruby?
[01:12] <unicum> and then put in one from.. "add to panel"
[01:12] <mouseboyx> old one what?
[01:12] <mouseboyx> Window list?
[01:12] <bad_cables> anyone know how to enable the RaLink rt61 in ubuntu?
[01:12] <unicum> the windowlist that was in the panel after the fresh installation
[01:12] <unicum> yes
[01:12] <mouseboyx> Try moving it around.
[01:12] <soundray> zed_: look into the update-initramfs command. You can run it in a chroot
[01:13] <mouseboyx> Or rebooting unicum have you tried that?
[01:13] <Slade^^> #j kicevo
[01:13] <unicum> my comp is always shut down when i'm done
[01:13] <unicum> i reboot like a thousand times
[01:13] <realityiswhere> ^Elfboy: you would have to plug in a mouse, keyboard and monitor to do the initial setup, yes. after that you can set up ssh tunnelling and then do it remotely.
[01:13] <zed_> I guess I don't know how to get root then
[01:14] <zed_> I can access all my files
[01:14] <unicum> moving the windowlist only makes the buttons grow bigger by the space the windowlist gains.. thing is.. they are buttons now.. not icons anymore
[01:14] <singlesun> su?
[01:14] <zed_> tried that
[01:14] <^Elfboy> realityiswhere:  thanks
[01:14] <singlesun> zed_, i just stepped in, whats the problem?
[01:15] <mouseboyx> unicum, are you sure its not window selector? put another window list on the pannel
[01:15] <d_test> if i install ubuntu 6.06, can i update to the newest version?
[01:15] <bad_cables> i downloaded the working driver for gutsy, everything went smooth, but now when i reboot i get a 0% signal to all the routers and i cant connect... RaLink rt61 chipset
[01:15] <jack-desktop> should ~/.dbus/user-dbus-address be created automatically by dbus?
[01:15] <unicum> already done that
[01:15] <realityiswhere> d_test: you should be able to do a dist-upgrade to the newest version, yes.
[01:15] <soundray> zed_: do a 'sudo -i' followed by 'chroot /mnt bash' (assuming that you've mounted your partition to /mnt). The run update-initramfs
[01:15] <mouseboyx> Can you send me  a screen shot?
[01:15] <zed_> singlesun: I ran "sudo apt-get remove udev" think I could just reload it, it took my kernel with it and crashed the system, now I get grub error 15
[01:15] <d_test> realityiswhere: ok thanks
[01:15] <unicum> i think i can.. got icq or something?
[01:16] <zed_> I want to reload the kernel from the disk if possible
[01:16] <mouseboyx> I have xchat.
[01:16] <unicum> thing is.. i can not show you the old setup for it is gone, as i said
[01:16] <unicum> right.. mom
[01:16] <singlesun> zed_, ouch
[01:16] <unicum> hrhr
[01:16] <bad_cables> yes i did a depmod -a and modprobe rt61
[01:16] <zed_> I'm a noob
[01:16] <ep2011> I have a question about volume... I configured my volume keys on my wireless keyboard, and when I press them it shows the volume changing, but nothing happens... Any ideas?
[01:16] <singlesun> zed_, i am too, so that is beyond me... lol
[01:16] <das88> hey, I've got a newbie question about a via video driver in 7.10: I have a driver from VIA but it's made for fedora core 4. the autoinstall program they give doesn't work on my system and I'm wondering if I can recompile it
[01:16] <ep2011> For example, the mute button doesn't mute, but in keyboard shortcuts I set it to mute
[01:16] <soundray> zed_: did you get me?
[01:16] <singlesun> zed_, reinstall? lol
[01:17] <zed_> soundray no, sun I want to avoid that
[01:17] <soundray> zed_: do a 'sudo -i' followed by 'chroot /mnt bash' (assuming that you've mounted your partition to /mnt). The run update-initramfs
[01:17] <mouseboyx> Can you send it unicum ?
[01:17] <jimmygoon> Is gran paradiso really that far behind b2?
[01:17] <d_test> realityiswhere: can i upgrade using a 7.10 disk?
[01:17] <jimmygoon> !granparadiso
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about granparadiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <singlesun> i believe zed_ said he could get root though
[01:17] <jimmygoon> !gran paradiso
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gran paradiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <jimmygoon> !firefox3
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <realityiswhere> d_test: i believe you would need the alternate disk, i'm not sure if you can update off of a livecd
[01:18] <zed_> /usr/sbin/chroot: /usr/sbin/chroot: cannot execute binary file
[01:18] <soundray> d_test: you'd have to get the alternate install CD to upgrade from a disk
[01:18] <d_test> ok
[01:18] <phuzion> anyone with compiz got a cool clouds picture that I can use for skydome that comes together pretty well and doesn't show a hard line anywhere?
[01:19] <singlesun> phuzion, i would also like that cool clouds picture ;)
[01:19] <ep2011> Can someone help me get my volume keys to work?
[01:19] <ququ> thanks for chatting! bey!
[01:19] <zed_> so not getting root, soundray can we private chat please?
[01:19] <soundray> zed_: it seems that there is more amiss than just your initrd. Can't see how you'll get around a reinstall.
[01:19] <singlesun> phuzion, i did use some of the "matrix looking green letter pictures" that seemed to work well
[01:19] <zed_> durn
[01:19] <soundray> zed_: sorry, I'm logging off in a minute
[01:19] <unicum> i will make a second one and send it too.. mom
[01:19] <zed_> no way to do some sort of recovery and not just a clean install?
[01:20] <dolphin_noel> someone knows why when i click in my mouse in the right buttom the mouse simple just execute the menu command and crates me many times foulders and other stuff :x
[01:20] <unicum> i resized the windowlist so it groups the symbols.. that's good
[01:20] <das88> can anyone help a newbie try and install a video driver?
[01:20] <soundray> zed_: you can always rescue your /home and /etc directories to save yourself some work after the reinstall
[01:20] <unicum> but actually it shouldn't be buttons
[01:20] <zed_> thanks
[01:21] <bad_cables> das88, why do you need a video driver installed?
[01:21] <Slade^^> guys! can I ask u some thing??
[01:21] <unicum> there should by tiny icons, all square, small and nice
[01:21] <das88> because I'm stuck in 800x600
[01:21] <unicum> there are not :(
[01:21] <soundray> zed_: also save your package cache /var/cache/apt/archives if you have updated online
[01:21] <Slade^^> why wine i cant instal?
[01:21] <singlesun> phuzion, hey maybe this will work http://www.beryl-themes.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/55604-1.jpg you like that one?
[01:21] <bad_cables> das88, that doesn't always mean that you need to install another driver
[01:21] <Slade^^> it says wheb I try to instal
[01:21] <realityiswhere> Slade^^: are you able to be more specific?
[01:21] <dolphin_noel> das88 i use mplayer manually instalation but ubuntu come whith some auto search codecinstalation probably you nede to change your pakage sources to universe
[01:21] <JoeThomas> Hi I did a server install of gutsy and want to get DWM on there but I need x first. How can I get X on there and NOT Gnome.
[01:22] <jack-desktop> how can i use dbus?
[01:22] <Slade^^> yes
[01:22] <bad_cables> das88, what video card is it?
[01:22] <das88> dolphin: could you explain that a little more simply? sorry
[01:22] <wastrel> x-window-system-core
[01:22] <mouseboyx> use window selector instead then unicum.
[01:22] <JoeThomas> thanks
[01:22] <das88> its a chrome9 chipset, integrated graphics ona VIA laptop motherboard
[01:22] <wastrel> hrm no i guess it's just   xorg
[01:22] <wastrel> nowadays
[01:22] <eugman> I've been trying to edit my interfaces file but I can't do it right. What would I add to make eth1 run after the computer boots up?
[01:23] <bad_cables> das88, is there something in the bios about shared memory for the video card?
[01:23] <Slade^^> it says: there has been a problem during the instalation of the folloving pieces of software
[01:23] <wastrel> eugman: auto eth1    anywhere in the file should work
[01:23] <das88> I don't believe so
[01:23] <das88> the bios on here is pretty stripped down
[01:23] <Slade^^> ??
[01:23] <singlesun> phuzion, here is a better one, my bad...  http://www.beryl-themes.org/CONTENT/content-files/55604-Beryl-cloud-dome.jpg
[01:23] <unicum> mouseboyx windowselector is only one icon which includes the windows of all workspaces
[01:23] <eugman> watrel, hmm I'll try that again then.
[01:23] <Slade^^> I cant instal cause of that
[01:24] <bpa> hello all
[01:24] <unicum> also it always shows only the selected window
[01:24] <lanzelloth__> help! i sent something to trash but it's not in the trash
[01:24] <Marvin-TMDR> http://tinyurl.com/2ftdlt
[01:24] <Marvin-TMDR> lol
[01:24] <unicum> ah, darn
[01:24] <bad_cables> das88, you might want to check that out, i use a VIA mobo and it has an integrated video card, if i dont set the ram to share 8 mb, then i cant have anything more than 800x600
[01:24] <nickrud> JoeThomas: you'll also need some kind of window manager
[01:24] <mouseboyx> unicum, There is no way to fix this.
[01:24] <Marvin-TMDR> disappearing trash items?
[01:24] <bad_cables> das88, but that is not the driver's fault
[01:24] <JoeThomas> nickrud:  DMW
[01:24] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: why?
[01:24] <JoeThomas> DWM*
[01:24] <lanzelloth__> it was on an ntfs partition
[01:24] <unicum> so.. i need to reinstall?
[01:24] <das88> thanks cables, I'll check that
[01:24] <lanzelloth__> does it get sent to a different place?
[01:24] <nickrud> JoeThomas: ah, missed that. sorry
[01:25] <Devils-Haven> helo
[01:25] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: can u answer me to fix this problem?
[01:25] <Marvin-TMDR> unic- if you delete it, you should be ready for that...
[01:25] <JoeThomas> nickrud: it's cool thanks though.
[01:25] <mouseboyx> unicum, So the original, had all icons?
[01:25] <das88> thing is, I"ve tried reconfiguring xserver several times and it doesn't change anything
[01:25] <unicum> i meen.. it did work once.. obviously, else i wouldn't know how it worked
[01:25] <unicum> yes
[01:25] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: if u know how to fix
[01:25] <unicum> all icons of the actual desktop
[01:25] <das88> would the bios issue fix that too?
[01:25] <lanzelloth__> damn..
[01:25] <realityiswhere> Slade^^: how are you attempting to install it? from the Ubuntu Gutsy repository, or from the Wine repository, or compiling it?
[01:25] <mouseboyx> I think this feature does not exist, because I cannot do it.
[01:25] <Devils-Haven> can any one help ubuntu noob? deb is not found
[01:25] <unicum> erm... maybe it's because i'm using compiz.. though i dont't think it is
[01:26] <bad_cables> das88, that is what happened to me, once i set my bios to use 8mb... then i could do 1300x768
[01:26] <unicum> i could try kicking out compiz reboot
[01:26] <unicum> turning on compiz again and rebooting again
[01:26] <das88> awesome, I'll be back then. Thanks bad_cables!
[01:26] <bad_cables> das88, before that the option was there to increase from 800 but it just wouldnt do it
[01:26] <das88> hmm...
[01:26] <das88> I don't have the option
[01:26] <phuzion> singlesun, beautiful, thanks a ton
[01:26] <bad_cables> das88, it also varies from distro to distro
[01:26] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: I want to instal from add/remove Applications
[01:27] <das88> cables, do you have any idea how I would look up my horizontal refresh rate?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Devils-Haven, deb is not a command. its the extension for the packages the apt-get system uses.
[01:27] <realityiswhere> Slade^^: Maybe try loading the official Wine repository into Ubuntu and installing from Synaptic in that way?
[01:27] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: u know what is the problem.. ? cause u know PLEASE tell me
[01:28] <singlesun> phuzion, no problem man ;) anytime
[01:28] <das88> I've got an averatec laptop and they don't give me any useful information about hardware...
[01:28] <Devils-Haven> rying to install beryl per tutorial and i can't
[01:28] <das88> I know the native res is 1280x768 but thats it
[01:28] <Devils-Haven> can u help me?
[01:28] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: where is that?
[01:28] <singlesun> phuzion, brb have to reboot
[01:28] <vincent-vollmot> alguien habla español?????
[01:28] <phuzion> das88, what info are you looking for?
[01:28] <realityiswhere> Slade^^: One moment
[01:28] <Flare183> !beryl | Devils-Haven
[01:28] <ubotu> Devils-Haven: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[01:28] <Dr_willis> for most lcd's isent the refresh rate 60?
[01:28] <das88> exact monitor and video specs, phuzion
[01:28] <Flare183> Dr_willis: yeap
[01:28] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: I have isnstaled ubuntu yesterday
[01:28] <wastrel> !es | vincent-vollmot
[01:28] <ubotu> vincent-vollmot: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:28] <eugman> !es
[01:28] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: ok
[01:28] <phuzion> das88, do lspci in terminal
[01:28] <bad_cables> das88, the command is lspci
[01:29] <wastrel> lshw also
[01:29] <Jangari> apt-get on my machine seems to be stuck behind a firewall, but synaptic seems fine with the network proxy, anyone know how to force apt-get to use a particular proxy?
[01:29] <Devils-Haven> i a mtrying to install mac4lin
[01:29] <das88> Dr_willis: I think the refresh is 60, yeah, but I'm looking for the horizontal sync
[01:30] <wastrel> Jangari: export http_proxy="<your proxy>"
[01:30] <Jangari> thanks wastrel
[01:30] <wastrel> <your proxy> being   http://server:port
[01:30] <Slade^^> realityiswhere: waitingggg........ :)
[01:31] <das88> lspci doesnt seem to have any monitor info in it
[01:31] <wastrel> assuming it's http.  you can do ftp_proxy too
[01:31] <Jangari> wastrel: how about setting the port?
[01:31] <Jangari> oh, gotcha, thanks
[01:32] <Devils-Haven> how do i know if i have compiz or compiz-fusion?
[01:32] <realityiswhere> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:32] <Devils-Haven> got version 7.10
[01:32] <realityiswhere> Slade^^: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:32] <Slade^^> ok
[01:32] <rpj8> I get framebuffer errors when I try to run zsnes from the command line in a console environment (without x)
[01:33] <bad_cables> i need help with rt61
[01:33] <singlesun> what is messed up is that ... i was just about to help you setup Compiz... and now ubuntu isnt opening my own "advanced settings"... the functions still work... like cube and wavvy windows... etc...
[01:33] <singlesun> anyone have any clues as to why my "advanced settings" might be failing
[01:34] <Dr_willis> singlesun,  theres some issues with how the setting files are saved with kde i recall.   I had to enable the 'flat file settings' i think.
[01:34] <bad_cables> is anyone in here a wireless expert?
[01:34] <Dr_willis> singlesun,  also ive seen under gnome where the settings just stop 'changing' from the ccsm tool.
[01:34] <bad_cables> it seems that WPA doesnt work with my wireless driver
[01:35] <Dr_willis> singlesun,  i check/uncheck and they just dont get applied. Had to restart X for them to get going again
[01:35] <singlesun> Dr_willis, well im running Gnome... and the weird thing was... it worked the other day
[01:35] <Dr_willis> singlesun,   seen similer issues.. lets just say that compiz is still a bit of a work in progress. :P
[01:35] <singlesun> Dr_willis, so now i cant edit my settings.? ... what?
[01:36] <singlesun> Dr_willis, lol... this isnt good... cuz i was just about to change my settings... lol
[01:36] <Shuggle> I'm having a problem using ndiswrapper for my wireless driver. I have the driver that came with windows. Everything works like it is supposed to until I modprobe ndiswrapper. The wireless interface just doesnt show up
[01:37] <adub_> doe anyone have any experience with amule
[01:37] <bad_cables> adub_ yeah... it's great
[01:37] <adub_> im having trouble getting the server.met file to download
[01:37] <adub_> bad_cables can you tell me which server.met server you are using
[01:37] <adub_> i have never had any trouble with this program
[01:37] <bad_cables> adub_ i havent installed it in a long time
[01:37] <martin_> realityiswhere: can u PLEASE send me again???
[01:38] <realityiswhere> martin: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:38] <martin_> realityiswhere: I left cause my net .... he fail
[01:38] <adub> oh bad_cables
[01:38] <adub> :)
[01:39] <Devils-Haven> any one installed mac4lin?
[01:39] <Kuroachia> Is it possible for my gdesklets to startup when I start up ubuntu?
[01:39] <bad_cables> adub: it may be that they are down somehow?>
[01:39] <adub> bad_cables i dont know
[01:39] <adub> does anyone have a server that has a good server.met file
[01:40] <singlesun>  as much as i dont want to do it... is there anyway to return ubuntu back to its factory settings, when it was first installed?
[01:40] <martin_> where now??
[01:41] <bruenig> singlesun, reinstall it
[01:41] <martin_> i cant without your help
[01:41] <martin_> pls help me
[01:41] <singlesun> bruenig, besides reinstalling... lol
[01:41] <bruenig> singlesun, no
[01:41] <nickrud> singlesun: what do you mean, factory settings?
[01:41] <realityiswhere> martin_: did you follow both of the steps to add the key and update your repository?
[01:41] <Dr_willis> singlesun,  what settings are you refering to? the USERS settings? or various  service, or other settings.
[01:41] <adub> bad_cables only thing i know to do is uninstall amule and reinstall
[01:42] <hdevalence> is there a way to virtualize windows in ubuntu without anyone noticing?
[01:42] <singlesun> nickrud, in other words, i have some junk files where they shouldnt be for some reason or other.... compiz advanced settings will not open... and its acting kinda buggy
[01:42] <spithra> so if i have gnome and kde installed, how do i make a 1 default
[01:42] <singlesun> Dr_willis, nickrud, see above ^^
[01:42] <bad_cables> adub, sorry but i dont have it up or i would get you a server
[01:43] <gcleric> hdevalence: What are you trying to do?
[01:43] <boinker> does anyone know how to enable the touch slider and the 4 buttons on a wacom tablet in gutsy?
[01:43] <singlesun> Dr_willis, nickrud, bruenig, its all been acting fine up until today... then started being glitchy
[01:43] <nickrud> singlesun: you can clear all of compiz (I think) with   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz , that'll take care of any custom settings that may be bad
[01:43] <martin_> realityiswhere: can u tell me where u from cause i cant undersand wery well ??
[01:43] <boinker> i have the intuos3 version any help please
[01:43] <martin_> realityiswhere: and what is repository???
[01:43] <hdevalence> gcleric: have a linux-based system (headless) that runs a virtual windows box
[01:43] <realityiswhere> martin_: what is your first language?
[01:43] <hdevalence> but to the user it looks like it's just running windows
[01:43] <xazo> hello
[01:44] <martin_> realityiswhere: macedonian
[01:44] <martin_> realityiswhere: are u american?
[01:44] <realityiswhere> martin_: no
[01:44] <bad_cables> anyone have experience with the rt61 driver?
[01:44] <shaark> how can I tell which window manager i'm currently running?
[01:44] <singlesun> nickrud, i just ran that...still can not access advanced settings :(
[01:44] <FactTech> Question: I seem to have an instance of Firefox running that may be hung. I know how to ID and kill a process using 'ps' and 'kill', but is there any way to bring a process to the foreground or into a window? Like what you would find in Windows, with a "bring to front" option on the Task Manager.
[01:44] <gcleric> hdevalence:  Are you trying to setup a virtual Terminal Server or RDP to XP?
[01:44] <martin_> realityiswhere: then.... from ? if u want telle me where u from?
[01:44] <singlesun> singlesun, however it did take away my 4 bars, and my cube.. and all the other compiz effects... lol
[01:45] <martin_> realityiswhere: tell*
[01:45] <singlesun> nickrud, my bad... look above real quick,
[01:45] <nickrud> singlesun: then I'd try alt-f2  metacity --replace  , then repeat the one above, and sudo apt-get install --reinstall compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:45] <zoobox> how do I do to create a deb package?
[01:45] <realityiswhere> martin_: go to the private chat window
[01:45] <buzz4rd> \join #asterix
[01:46] <hdevalence> gcleric: not sure. I want it to be like: hardware->linux->windows->user
[01:46] <hdevalence> ick, sorry, my ethernet is sketchy
[01:47] <zoobox> I have compiled the program and it is in its own directory with usr/local/bin/ and usr/local/share/ subdirectories, but how to create a .deb from it?
[01:47] <nickrud> singlesun: saw it :)
[01:47] <gcleric> hdevalence:  Then yes....
[01:47] <Shuggle> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[01:47] <Talon> Ok, so i configured Compiz but the cube doesnt work, any sugestions ?
[01:47] <singlesun> nickrud, umm... im not sure about all that...
[01:48] <singlesun> Talon, hit alt control ... hold left mouse wheel and move mouse
[01:48] <singlesun> Talon, did anything happen?
[01:48] <nickrud> singlesun: it's returning to metacity and reinstalling ccsm . Not a panacea , but often helps
[01:48] <hdevalence> gcleric: I want it to have the user interact with windows as if the computer was just running windows but really it's running Linux underneath
[01:48] <Talon> uhhh, left mouse wheel mate ?
[01:48] <singlesun> Talon, left mouse button
[01:48] <gcleric> hdevalence:  You can setup either a terminal server and have users RDP to it... same is true for XP....but it requires a little hack..
[01:48] <Talon> Ok, just makin sure
[01:48] <singlesun> Talon, alt + ctrl + left mouse button... i think is default for it
[01:49] <hdevalence> Talon: cool
[01:49] <hdevalence> err
[01:49] <insomniac[st]> any firehol gurus here?
[01:49] <gcleric> hdevalence:  without the user knowing what is underneath
[01:49] <hdevalence> gcleric: cool. thanks for the info
[01:49] <Talon> control alt left mouse doesnt work either :/
[01:49] <gcleric> hdevalence:  I do it all the time with VMware.
[01:49] <bad_cables> or qemu
[01:50] <gcleric> hdevalence:  Either the free VMware Server or ESX....
[01:50] <singlesun> Talon, dont worry to much... my compiz just died on me today after running so well for so long.. LOL
[01:50] <bad_cables> anyone know how to get the rt61 to work in 7.70??
[01:50] <LockesRabb> anyone familiar with compiz?
[01:50] <shaark> how do I check which window manager is currently running?
[01:50] <bad_cables> i get 0% on all the radios
[01:50] <hdevalence> gcleric: probably better to just use (k)ubuntu by itself
[01:50] <gcleric> hdevalence:  The key is RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol)
[01:50] <Talon> Singlesun: aint that a bitch :/
[01:51] <singlesun> Talon, yeah... lol... trying to fix it now actually.. lol
[01:51] <Talon> Well if you have any luck, please tell me what ya do !
[01:51] <tehmass> Hey guys :D
[01:51] <gcleric> hdevalence:  There is no need to install Xorg
[01:51] <Talon> everything seems to work except the cube
[01:51] <insomniac[st]> On firehol, I have "server webcache accept" in the conf. anyone know how to make it only accessible from local IPs?
[01:51] <hdevalence> gcleric: ok
[01:51] <tehmass> How do i install a .deb ?
[01:51] <shaark> Talon: how many workspaces u have?
[01:52] <tehmass> it is mplayer
[01:52] <Talon> Shaark, none i guess i dont know how to create more then the default mate just installed today
[01:52] <Starnestommy> tehmass: if you downloaded a .deb, I think it's sudo dpkg -i filename
[01:53] <shaark> Talon: well if u have 4 it should show the cube
[01:53] <Talon> Is there any easy way to tell how man i have ?
[01:53] <LockesRabb> yeah
[01:53] <LockesRabb> ctrl alt down
[01:53] <shaark> in the bottom right in ur panel
[01:53] <Talon> many*
[01:54] <shaark> u can switch between the workspaces
[01:54] <kbrooks> bbl
[01:54] <Talon> I only have 2 i think
[01:54] <Stargazer> Problem: been trying to watch Veoh videos and they just sit there loading, anyone willing to take a guess ?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Stargazer,  got a full url to a video? let me try it. :P
[01:55] <singlesun> well i determined that compiz is jacked up for me for some reason.... after i uninstalled and reinstalled... i have no clue how it could be functioning all this time... and then suddenly decide to stop working
[01:55] <LjL> komp, ocha, aini-zidane, co_basket, chacha: please register your nicknames to Freenode and consider obtaining a cloak. you are currently not allowed to speak on this channel as you appear to be connected from the same computer.
[01:55] <nugz1212> wats a good program to use to stream to a shoutcast server?
[01:55] <nugz1212> like for DJ'ing
[01:56] <nugz1212> anyone?
[01:56] <donald_> singlesun: how do u mean compiz sudddenly stopped working?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> !find shoutcast
[01:56] <tehmass> does sudo apt-get update    update all the repos?
[01:56] <ubotu> Package/file shoutcast does not exist in gutsy
[01:56] <shaark> Talon: did u select Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube?
[01:56] <tehmass> i want the updated ver. of MPLAYER and im having problems installing it through the .deb
[01:56] <singlesun> donald_, the advanced settings... it would not let me access them anymore
[01:56] <Talon> Shaark, dont know how to do that
[01:57] <singlesun> singlesun, i would select it... and it would not open at all...
[01:57] <Talon> Or do you mean in the ccsm thing to enable them ?
[01:57] <singlesun> donald_, i would select it and it would not let it open at all
[01:57] <phuzion> Anyone here ever compiled StepMania from source?
[01:57] <shaark> Talon: System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[01:57] <donald_> singlesun: odd
[01:57] <Carbonflux> sometimes you have to restart compiz
[01:57] <Carbonflux> if you were changing some of the settings
[01:58] <Carbonflux> for example turning on benchmarking
[01:58] <Carbonflux> will sometimes turn off all the effects
[01:58] <regfire> OS=Gutsy -- Anyone had luck getting firestarter to run and STAY running? If so, can you point me to a fix?
[01:58] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i rebooted the computer... is that good enough?
[01:58] <Talon> Shaark, yeah i enabled those
[01:58] <davef> how do i watch real player files in firefox?
[01:58] <Carbonflux> singlesun, did you change your xorg.conf or anything? only one monitor ?
[01:58] <singlesun> Carbonflux, the functions would still work... i just could not access them to edit my settings in the advanced section
[01:58] <donald_> singlesun: do u still have desktop effects?
[01:59] <Carbonflux> singlesun, did you install CCSM ?
[01:59] <singlesun> donald_, i uninstalled the package... and used the reset
[01:59] <Talon> shaark, osnaps it works now, but i only have two screens can you be so kind as to inform mehow to get 4 ?
[01:59] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yes... i had it and it was working great for a long time
[01:59] <jimmygoon> I know firefox3 includes a native gtk theme.... but what if I want a gtk theme that looks like firefox2?
[01:59] <Carbonflux> singlesun, something might have trashed python too
[01:59] <Stargazer> Dr_willis, pm
[01:59] <phuzion> wow, I have been using terminal too much, I just did | grep in a search
[02:00] <singlesun> Carbonflux, well i had just put some python stuff on there.... like IDLE and a few other things, because I was doing some developing with python
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Stargazer,  Hmm? I see no pm's
[02:00] <donald_> Talon: right click on the Workspace Chooser and Preference and select 4 columns
[02:00] <nugz1212> what the heck is going on with the kicking spree?
[02:00] <shaark> Talon: in the bottom right panel in gnome there is the switcher app u can right click and add more workspaces
[02:00] <singlesun> nugz1212, looks like its kicking all unregistered nicks.. lol
[02:00] <nugz1212> yeah
[02:00] <Carbonflux> singlesun, CCSM is written in python, some change might have caused a problem with dependencies
[02:00] <tehmass> How do i access the repos.
[02:00] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I am just guessing of course
[02:00] <das88> bad_cables: thanks a bunch for your memory suggestion! I changed the on-board vga memory from 64 megs to 128 and everything works great now!
[02:00] <LjL> "looks like" based on what? or rather, why is it your concern?
[02:00] <tehmass> Universe repositories
[02:00] <nugz1212> can anyone point me to a good program to DJ on shoutcast servers?
[02:01] <singlesun> Carbonflux, not the d word... LOL... oh hell.. LOL
[02:01] <Carbonflux> heh
[02:01] <Talon> You guys are so nice to me :D thankyou Shaark and Donald , im gonna go eat dinner now bye bye and thanks again mate
[02:01] <q_a_z_steve> Is there anything in Dapper to view disk usage by folder? Like KDirStat or something?
[02:01] <q_a_z_steve> *already in dapper ... ?
[02:01] <dburns> anyone here have luck with wireless on the aspire 5100?
[02:01] <Carbonflux> singlesun, did you try reinstalling all of it on top of your python installs ?
[02:01]  * singlesun goes to look for the even elusive and annoying rabbit trail of "dependencies" upon "dependencies" upon "dependencies"... lol
[02:02] <dburns> followed this word for word http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[02:02] <dburns> no such luck
[02:02] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yes i did do a reinstall on top of the python.... but i did not reboot in between the removal and reinstall
[02:02] <Carbonflux> singlesun, also, switching to basic effects and back to custom again will reset all your defaults, or should
[02:03] <KelebekSohbet585> hello
[02:03] <singlesun> Carbonflux, problem is... i can reinstall the advanced settings... and then go to click on the "advanced desktop effects" tab.... and it will not open
[02:03] <Carbonflux> singlesun, turning effects on and off again in the appearance dialog should restart it of course, but a reboot is always a good idea imo
[02:03] <KelebekSohbet585> hello
[02:03] <foibles> hello
[02:03] <KelebekSohbet585> xD
[02:03] <singlesun> Carbonflux, let me give this another shot... one sec
[02:03] <Rezagrats> Dr_willis, did you ever get my /notice ?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Rezagrats,  i saw no notices anywhere.
[02:03] <foibles> i just installed gutsy
[02:03] <Rezagrats> ...
[02:03] <KelebekSohbet585> My name is jessica
[02:03] <Carbonflux> singlesun, did you try running it from a terminal? see if it outputs any messages ?
[02:03] <xMS_user> hello channel. anyone here that was trying to help me before?
[02:03] <LjL> !ot | KelebekSohbet585
[02:03] <ubotu> KelebekSohbet585: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:03] <foibles> do i have to change my gdm theme manually?
[02:03] <foibles> or is there an easier point and click way
[02:04] <Rezagrats> Dr_willis, how bout now ?
[02:04] <regfire> Any takers on Firestarter issues?
[02:04] <singlesun> Carbonflux, try runnings advanced settings from term...? ... no i have not... i wouldnt really know what dir to cd to
[02:04] <xMS_user> ikonia: Jordan_U: nemilar: ?
[02:04] <q_a_z_steve> nickrud, do you know of a quick disk usage tool, one that shows usage by folder/file?
[02:04] <davef>  how do i watch real player files in mozilla firefox?
[02:04] <Carbonflux> singlesun, just do a: ccsm from the command line
[02:04] <donald_> foibles: System > Preference > Appearance
[02:04] <q_a_z_steve> davef VLC
[02:05] <LjL> !nickspam > apranax    (apranax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:05] <insomniac[st]> On firehol, I have "server webcache accept" in the conf. anyone know how to make it only accessible from local IPs?
[02:05] <foibles> donald_, thanks
[02:05] <foibles> but what about my splash screen, login screen etc
[02:05] <donald_> foibles: oh sorry. System > Administration > Login Window
[02:05] <singlesun> Carbonflux, one sec... gonna get this package and reinstall
[02:05] <xMS_user> when mounting, how do i set it up so that anyone and everyone has access to the contents there?
[02:05] <xMS_user> BTW, I FOUND MY FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:06] <nemilar> Who's making my xchat icon blink
[02:06] <nemilar> HUH
[02:06]  * Carbonflux claps politely 
[02:06] <Talon> One last thing, in the compiz what option do i enable have the window infocus 'poped' out farther then a window in the back, like a pop up book
[02:06] <Jangari> anyone knwo if sox can concatenate more than 32 input files at once?
[02:06] <tehmass> What is a good way to go by getting the DIVX Codec?
[02:06] <xMS_user> nemilar: i found my 132gb of lost data
[02:06] <Carbonflux> focus trail Talon
[02:06]  * xMS_user starts to cry in happiness
[02:06] <davef> q_a_z_steve i have vlc and it doesnt play it
[02:07] <q_a_z_steve> what file extension?
[02:07] <donald_> tehmass: medibuntu
[02:07] <xMS_user> ex-Microsoft User
[02:07] <nemilar> xMS_user: haha awesome for you
[02:07] <Talon> That seems to only fade the windows, mabey i have an old version
[02:07] <nemilar> xMS_user: bet that will teach you to back-up though
[02:07] <Carbonflux> Talon, ah, you mean something else sorry
[02:07] <tehmass> were is that?
[02:07] <Carbonflux> Talon, you are talking about some 3D effect?
[02:07] <xMS_user> nemilar: hello?! dude i will back up my back ups!
[02:07] <Talon> Yes
[02:07] <nugz1212> has anyone tried the new ubuntu-ultimate?
[02:07] <tehmass> donald_:  were can i get that?
[02:07] <nemilar> lol, backing up is vital
[02:07] <Talon> were the window in focus is actualy 'above' the desktop when in the cube mode
[02:07] <singlesun> Carbonflux, its saying that it also wants to install python-compizconfig which is a package that can not be authenticated... i dont remember getting this message when installing the first time
[02:07] <Carbonflux> Talon, I have never seen that one unless you mean the 3D windows plug-in, but that only works when your rotating the cube
[02:08] <phuzion> Ok, I have this small problem with Compiz.  I have the desktop cube running fine, but the tray at the bottom that shows open programs doesn't update until I have the selected face full screened, it stays the same as what I had open on the first face
[02:08] <Talon> Carbon, i will try and find an example its hard for me to explain hehe
[02:08] <Carbonflux> singlesun, that sounds ok, it might just be unsupported, if its comming from a Ubuntu repo I doubt its malwarz
[02:08] <adub> does anyone here use amule
[02:08] <xMS_user> dude, bk is like brushing your teeth, changing your under wears and Not flirting with your girl friend's ssiter
[02:08] <singlesun> Carbonflux, reinstalled regardless of that warning... still fails to run from the "advanced settings"
[02:08] <phuzion> !anyone
[02:09] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:09] <Carbonflux> Talon, sounds nice, I would be interested in it myself
[02:09] <phuzion> !anyone | adub
[02:09] <ubotu> adub: please see above
[02:09] <q_a_z_steve> Talon, quick question, any change you know how to get dapper to show my disk usage by folder/file?
[02:09] <Carbonflux> singlesun, does it say anything when you type ccsm on the command line ?
[02:09] <donald_> tehmass: www.medibuntu.org
[02:09] <singlesun> Carbonflux, one sec, checking
[02:09] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yes.. i will send to you in PM
[02:10] <Talon> Sorry Steve, i only installed linux for the first time today , im to new at it to know that :D
[02:10] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i just sent to you in PM the output from ccsm
[02:10] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya looks like a version mismatch with libxslt.so.1
[02:10] <q_a_z_steve> Talon, ah, haha
[02:10] <xMS_user> talon didn't i see you last week asking the same question? how is it that you JUST installed now?
[02:11] <Talon> Different Talon i guess
[02:11] <singlesun> Carbonflux, the solution for this is? lol
[02:11] <Talon> Never had the balls enough to install it before today, but im glad i did
[02:11] <Carbonflux> singlesun, it might be that lib got overwritten when you installed something new
[02:11]  * xMS_user starts laughing
[02:11] <xMS_user> talon i am just messing with you
[02:11] <Talon> :P
[02:11] <RequinB4> >.> That's not nice xMS_user
[02:11] <Talon> I sure to like it thoe !
[02:11] <xMS_user> ext2 vs ext3? tell me the truth guys
[02:11] <singlesun> Carbonflux, hmmm, how to revert to the old lib file... or overwrite the existing?
[02:12] <RequinB4> Talon, welcome to ubuntu
[02:12] <Talon> Thankyou :)
[02:12] <Dr_willis> xMS_user,  i dont see mucn need to use ext2 these days
[02:12] <andresmujica> ext3 is the path
[02:12] <xMS_user> RequinB4: dude i am happy as hell, wait..that doe snot sound right
[02:12] <Carbonflux> singlesun, well, if it was me I would open the Synaptic package manager and look around for libxslt, I think its a XML parser for python
[02:12] <andresmujica> ext2 is faster but could be relatively dangerous
[02:12] <xMS_user> thank you Dr_willis
[02:12] <Talon> Carbon: did you get my pm ?
[02:12] <donald_> Carbonflux: Ubuntu won't "overwrite" it's own files unless a user does some weird ./install scripts of make install something
[02:12] <Carbonflux> singlesun, you might be able to revert
[02:12] <RequinB4> what would normally be in /dev/sda3
[02:12] <Dr_willis> ive not seen many benchmaks that show ext2 being that much faster these days.,
[02:12] <xMS_user> lol, well i am not putting my backups there then! ext3 it is
[02:12] <Carbonflux> donald_, its giving him a ImportError: /usr/lib/libxslt.so.1: undefined symbol: xmlNewDocPI when he tries to run ccsm
[02:13] <Carbonflux> that looks like a version mismatch to me
[02:13] <apranax> TÜRK WARMI LAN BURDA
[02:13] <apranax> :D
[02:13] <Carbonflux> Talon, I did not
[02:13] <Talon> hmm, then heres the link right here http://compiz.org/Image:3DPlugin.jpg
[02:13] <Talon> thats the effect i am trying to find
[02:13] <Carbonflux> ah thanks :)
[02:13] <donald_> Carbonflux: has he installed something without using proper deb packages? or possible disk corruption?
[02:13] <foibles> donald_, thanks
[02:13] <Carbonflux> donald_, that is my guess, he said he install some stuff to support python dev
[02:14] <Carbonflux> singlesun, what python stuff did you install ?
[02:14] <apranax> Talon fuck you
[02:14] <apranax> :A
[02:14] <andresmujica> probably is negectible today. but at the inner level ext2 is faster it doesnñ t have the journal overhead
[02:14] <Talon> wth
[02:14] <donald_> Carbonflux: install using deb packages?
[02:14] <Talon> wtf did i do to you ?
[02:14] <singlesun> Carbonflux, IDLE, and i think it wanted some updates for python.. etc.. and then did a small amount of messing around with it
[02:15] <q_a_z_steve> !baobab
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baobab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Carbonflux> Talon, you need to install the 3D windows plugin, read this: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303
[02:15] <xMS_user> talon promise me something, no matter how hard it might get, stay open source. even if you leave ubuntu (but you sound like a reasonable guy) DO NOT go back to legacy
[02:15] <Talon> Thankyou Carbon
[02:15] <tritium> Talon: I removed him for that.  Sorry he said that to you.
[02:15] <Carbonflux> donald_, its singlesun that is having the problem
[02:15] <Talon> I wont go to legacy, cause i dont know what legacy is :P
[02:16] <xMS_user> tritium: y he'd say that
[02:16] <Carbonflux> is IDLE a deb package ?
[02:16] <q_a_z_steve> Talon, sudo apt-get install baobab      if you ever want to do that. Found it in the forums.
[02:16] <Talon> im the type of guy that if it aint broke i aint gonna fix it and so far Ubuntu aint broke hehe
[02:16] <tritium> xMS_user: I have no idea
[02:16] <xMS_user> Talon: bill gates and steve jobs are legacy
[02:16] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i just went "sudo apt-get install IDLE"
[02:16] <Talon> Ohh ok, well im using Windows XP on my desktop does that count as high treason ?
[02:16] <Ububegin> lets say i type "export AXISCPP_HOME=/usr/../../" how do i check whether it is actually set or not
[02:16] <Carbonflux> singlesun, well, the error is the result of ccsm expecting a different version of libxslt
[02:16] <oich> I accidentally ran python setup.py install on some python module, did I just screw up dpkg?
[02:17] <xMS_user> i made a bash file that does "sudo apt-get install $1" cuz i am lazy as hell
[02:17] <tehmass> im having a error with mplayer..   iterrupted signal 6 module
[02:17] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I would take a look in Synaptic package manager and see what you can find for that lib
[02:17] <Carbonflux> singlesun, maybe you can revert, but that might break something else
[02:17] <tehmass> trying to play a divx file. Any other method you guys suggest than with mplayer ?
[02:17] <singlesun> Carbonflux, well i found libxslt1.1 in the synaptic
[02:17] <Talon> Apranax, why did you say fuck you to me what did i do this time :)
[02:18] <Carbonflux> singlesun, does it show as being installed ?
[02:18] <singlesun> Carbonflux, it says i have it installed... yes
[02:18] <xMS_user> Talon: no way! we still need windows on earth. but make the transition. i have a small pc with xp that manages my media. (damn media player 11 does not run in wine)
[02:18] <Carbonflux> singlesun, you could try "reinstall" but again, it might break something
[02:18] <Carbonflux> singlesun, does IDLE work etc ?
[02:18] <singlesun> Carbonflux, lol well its already... broken.. so why not... lol
[02:18] <fotoflo> hey, ive never done ssh tunneling before... i heard it can be done to access a remote samba service?
[02:18] <xMS_user> apranax is not here
[02:18] <Talon> The only reason i use Windows XP is to code my stuff and to play SWG really, i could live without it
[02:18] <tehmass> Whats a good way to go about playing divx codec movies?
[02:18] <xMS_user> you heard talon, he left
[02:18] <tritium> Talon: don't repeat the foul language, please.
[02:18] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yeah idle still works..
[02:18] <Talon> XMS: Do you know if Xfire works in Wine ?
[02:18] <Talon> Tritium : sorry mate
[02:18] <tritium> xMS_user: he didn't just leave.  I removed him.
[02:19] <donald_> tehmass: u have not looked at medibuntu?
[02:19] <xMS_user> tritium: lol! you right.
[02:19] <tehmass> I did not find it
[02:19] <fotoflo> anyone know anything about using ssh tunneling to access remote samba devices?
[02:19]  * xMS_user thinks to himself that he'd better not piss off any channel admins
[02:19] <Talon> brb
[02:19] <singlesun> Carbonflux, this libxslt 1.1 is also a package that can not be authenticated
[02:19] <xMS_user> talon what do you code?
[02:19] <Carbonflux> singlesun, if you look at the error basicly what is happening is that ccsm is using libxslt to load a XML file containing the compiz settings, its called a function that does not exist in that lib in terms of the version you have installed
[02:20] <Talon> xms: C++
[02:20] <whyshy> can compiz run on a virtual linux (in virtualbox), because for me iit doesn´t work. Is it maybe cause of the "virtual-graphic-device"
[02:20] <Talon> You wont like what i code :P but i make hacks for games :/
[02:20] <Carbonflux> singlesun, that is a bit weird
[02:20] <andresmujica> no, virtualization doesn't have support for 3D
[02:20] <singlesun> Carbonflux, im thinking about reinstalling... LOL
[02:20] <donald_> whyshy: compiz wont run in VM
[02:21] <somerville32> Is there a gui that allows for easy management of ip aliases?
[02:21] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, something does seem broken, that should be a supported lib
[02:21] <tehmass> what architure should i choose ?a/ b/ f/ h/ k/ libd/ m/ x/
[02:21] <tehmass> for  medibuntu in kubuntu
[02:21] <singlesun> Carbonflux, :O this is the story of my life... lol.. i just finished reinstalling everything on my wife's pc today... now mine... lol
[02:21] <tehmass> nvm
[02:22] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya on this machine it shows that lib as being part of the supported stuff
[02:22] <whyshy>  ok thank you @ donald_ and andresmujica!!!!!!!
[02:22] <Carbonflux> singlesun, so something is messed up on your machine, you could try a sudo apt-get clean maybe
[02:22] <blick> I want to make a shell script that defines a useful function, and works either stand-alone or as a "library" (source filename.sh). Is there a good way to do this?
[02:22] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i will try that
[02:22] <Carbonflux> singlesun, it seems like your RSA keys might be mess up or something
[02:23] <donald_> tehmass: can u read the FAQ on medibuntu. about adding it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[02:23] <Carbonflux> singlesun, after the clean do a sudo apt-get update also
[02:23] <xMS_user> c++ and you use xp? now that is just plain silly
[02:23] <thebigham> How do i get intel x3100 graphic working with compiz???
[02:23] <donald_> thebigham: u need to add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to some file
[02:23] <Carbonflux> with VS2005 C++ is fully support in XP
[02:24] <Carbonflux> supported
[02:24] <Talon> xms: im used to it i guess
[02:24] <singlesun> Carbonflux, alright i did both of those
[02:24] <Carbonflux> its not as good as gcc or something
[02:24] <xMS_user> Talon: i had a php script that  did some db maintenence, on xp it would take about 5 - 7 minutes. on the same machine, debian ran it all in less than 1 minutes
[02:24] <singlesun> Carbonflux, still not working... the verdict is... reboot... LOL
[02:24] <xMS_user> minute* singular
[02:25] <singlesun> Carbonflux, and reinstall
[02:25] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, something is messed up fairly bad, I am not sure you have to reinstall tho, you might try googling some of this first
[02:25] <Carbonflux> singlesun, try the ImportError: line in google for example
[02:25] <Talon> hmm, brb xms having trouble with this 3d window download install stuff
[02:25] <Carbonflux> singlesun, you can't be the first person to have this problem
[02:25] <singlesun> Carbonflux, oh yes i can... that is usually the case.. lol
[02:25] <Carbonflux> lol
[02:26] <Carbonflux> guess thats why its the "bleeding" edge
[02:26] <Carbonflux> I just don't know anything about authentication problems with apt
[02:26] <Carbonflux> there might be a easy fix
[02:26] <xMS_user> does the cube thingy even work in gutsy?
[02:26] <singlesun> bleeding is usually the case... LOL
[02:27] <nemilar> Someone having gpg key errors with apt?
[02:27] <Carbonflux> I have gotten the desktop cube working fine, i showed it to my girl friend, she pretended to be impressed in a polite way and then I turned it off
[02:27] <nemilar> haha
[02:28] <donald_> xMS_user: Compiz? works here
[02:28] <RequinB4> that's funny
[02:28] <nemilar> compiz works great
[02:28] <thebigham> How do i install drivers for intel x3100 so compiz will work?
[02:28] <Carbonflux> ya, seriously, it works fine here too
[02:28] <mazev> compiz looks great and ups my productivity
[02:28] <whyshy> ehem sorry, but another stupid question: Is Lina a fake or will it ever be released! i mean, it was already released but not compiled! and because i doen´t know how to compile Lina, i just want to know if it would work ?!
[02:28] <nemilar> thebigham: your video isn't working properly?
[02:28] <singlesun> Carbonflux, see mine was working all this time... i just couldnt edit it today... LOL...
[02:28] <donald_> thebigham: u need to add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to some file
[02:29] <RequinB4> compiz-fusion is good even just for organizational puposes
[02:29] <Talon> xms: Once i finish installing this 3d windows and changing options do i have to do something to get them to apply ? :)
[02:29] <thebigham> donald_, how do i do that?
[02:29] <nemilar> The cube, and expo, and all that compiz stuff is productive... the "minimize in a blaze of fire" is just eye-candy
[02:29] <Carbonflux> singlesun, well, I think you might be able to ignore the authentication issues for a time and just fix the compiz problem, there might be a way to refresh the keys or something
[02:30] <thebigham> there was a guy just couple hours ago who helped me to get it working, but i was using the wrong hard drive, now i have do every over again.
[02:30] <Carbonflux> I like compiz
[02:30] <Carbonflux> I use a lot of it, the window rules and stuff
[02:30] <thebigham> He gave me a link with simple steps to do win the teminal
[02:30] <donald_> thebigham: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587045
[02:30] <Carbonflux> I have a ton of rules set up now
[02:30] <Talon> Nemilar: I cant find the option, how do i let my windows go down in a blaze of glory
[02:30] <xMS_user> Talon:  ask donald_, nemilar, Mazus an RequinB4 they use it
[02:30] <Carbonflux> the only thing I don't normally use is the desktop cube
[02:31] <whyshy> Is Lina a fake?
[02:31] <nemilar> Talon: you have to install the extras, h/o I'll find the package for you
[02:31] <singlesun> Carbonflux, im gonna give this one a break for tonight... lol... i dont feel like pushing much farther with this tonight.. its been a long day... now i need to figure out what linux distro i will put on my old xp driven laptop... that now have a fan out in it that i refuse to replace... lol
[02:31] <Talon> Ahh, alwyas with the extras, thanks mate
[02:31] <Carbonflux> singlesun, heh, I understand exactly what you mean, better not to push anyway, you might get sucked into a black hole of reinstalling
[02:32] <EmmerP>  anybody get suspend to ram working in Feisty? It does suspend, but does not resume :S
[02:32] <nemilar> Talon: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:32] <Carbonflux> singlesun, one fun thing that can happen is having problems with the reinstall, a bad disc, etc
[02:32] <nemilar> Talon: there's literally more options in there than I wish to count
[02:32] <donald_> EmmerP: suspend is black magic
[02:32] <nemilar> donald_: not on windows, it isn't
[02:32] <singlesun> Carbonflux, well ive reintalled on this pc many times over... LOL...
[02:32] <Talon> Nemilar: thats a good thing thoe :) options = happy
[02:32] <whyshy> Lina?
[02:33] <Mazus> (18:31:14) (xMS_user) Talon: ask donald_, nemilar, Mazus an RequinB4 they use it<-- what?
[02:33] <thebigham> donald_, thanks alot it worked
[02:33] <Ububegin> hoe to use the find command in ubuntu
[02:33] <donald_> nemilar: not all ACPI implementations are the same
[02:33] <ader10>  I want a popup notification displaying mpc's output. Right now I use "mpc|zenity --text-info" but I'd like something that kind of scales the window to fit the text properly. Is there a method?
[02:33] <Ububegin> i mean use the find command in VIM, sorry
[02:33] <Carbonflux> singlesun, if ubuntu does not work on it I have had a lot of luck on older machines with fedora for some odd reason, but 7.10 Ubuntu has been quite good on old machines, stripped down of course
[02:33] <nemilar> Talon: at some point you're gonna wind up mapping your mouse3 button to something, and your scroll wheel is going to stop working... just keep that in mind when you're wondering why you can't scroll in firefox, and then go back and unmap mouse3 ;)
[02:33] <nemilar> Talon: _everyone_ I know has done that
[02:33] <whyshy> Li..?
[02:34] <whyshy> L?
[02:34] <Talon> Nem: i have one of those mouse pad things wit hthe scroll wheel on the side, i dont even think i can map it to anything elese
[02:34] <whyshy> :-(
[02:34] <whyshy> ;-)
[02:34] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i would like to run something that is as stripped down as possible.. .but will still support its PCMCIA wireless card...
[02:35] <singlesun> Carbonflux, need something light light weight, cuz i cant have it overheating due to fan being out... lol
[02:35] <nemilar> Talon: you can map any button on your mouse to pretty much anything you want...might take some doing though
[02:35] <xMS_user> Mazus: compiz
[02:35] <Talon> true true, ill make sure i avoid that thoe
[02:35] <EADG> singlesun: Damm Small Linux (DSL) or Puppy linux might be something you'de want to look at.
[02:36] <dduong> Ububegin: when you are not in insert mode, press / and type whatever you are looking for in front.  For example.  /test
[02:36] <Talon> I personaly enjoy scrolling in firefox so thats high on the list to avoid
[02:36] <singlesun> EADG, this gives full support for pcmcia wireless cards?
[02:36] <EmmerP> donald_: ok...that's it? hmmm
[02:37] <xMS_user> format c: /q in linux?
[02:37] <EADG> singlesun: a 50Mb d/l burn & reboot would tell you for sure. I don't use pcmcia on my lappy ;/
[02:38] <Talon> Hey Nemilar how to i apply settings with this 3d windows, because when i change its options nothing happens its just the same :/
[02:38] <Ububegin> dduong: how do i cont'd gg to next time.... i tried pressing <ENTER>..dun think it is correct one
[02:38] <Carbonflux> singlesun, yikes ;)
[02:38] <singlesun> EADG, 50meg... lol.. sure is d small...
[02:38] <xMS_user> guys how do i format my sdc4 in ext3?
[02:38] <singlesun> Carbonflux, whats up with the yikes?
[02:38] <Ububegin> dduong: how do i cont'd gg to next ITEM.... i tried pressing <ENTER>..dun think it is correct one
[02:38] <xMS_user> gparted is acting retarted
[02:38] <Carbonflux> singlesun, just thinking about the fanless computer :)
[02:38] <donald_> EmmerP: your mileage varies. u have to Google and narrow down to your specs
[02:39] <Jewfro-Macabbi> xMS_user, you are looking for the fdisk command?
[02:39] <EADG> singlesun: hehe, ya, it is. It has a gui, fluxbox iirc.
[02:39] <EmmerP> donald_: yeah...that's what I first tried without luck :)
[02:39] <dduong> Ububegin:  press the letter n
[02:39] <xMS_user> i dunno. let me man it and see
[02:39] <xMS_user> Jewfro-Macabbi: let me man it and see
[02:39] <Carbonflux> singlesun, he's right imo, DSL is a good pick
[02:39] <Jewfro-Macabbi> xMS_user, may the force be with you...
[02:40] <singlesun> Carbonflux, it rotates very slowly... its been running XP and was designed for XP... but its just I really dont feel like spending the money to fix the fan... the fans are like 90 dollars and hard to get ahold of, company was KDS computers that went out of business
[02:40] <Ububegin> dduong: sweet .......dude... tks
[02:40] <Wiredtape_Away> anyone know if you can use ddr2 (675mhz) 2x512mb and ddr2 (800mhz) 2x1gb together?
[02:40] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I have seen people do some really dirty fan hacks that seem to work ok, you might be able to adapt a fan from a old MB case or PSU maybe ?
[02:40] <donald_> EmmerP: also, there are various reasons for not resuming. u need to determine what it is. some have no backlight or DPMS issues. some can be fixed by switching to console and back
[02:41] <dduong> Ububegin:  not a problem my friend :)
[02:41] <spdf> Wiredtape_Away, the 800mhz willl get stepped down to 675
[02:41] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Wiredtape_Away, It will run both at the slower rate
[02:41] <singlesun> Carbonflux, but this is my luck... lol... i am running 32 bit ubuntu on my desktop even though it is a dual core 64 bit amd 4400+, 2 gig ram, nvida geforce 8500gt, 320gig hd.... the 64 bit ubuntu i had alot of issues with
[02:41] <EmmerP> donald_: thx, will try some more
[02:41] <Mazus> (18:36:11) (xMS_user) Mazus: compiz <-- i dont run compiz
[02:41] <Wiredtape_Away> Jewfro-Macabbi, but will be stable?
[02:42] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Wiredtape_Away, maybe, maybe not - it's generally not a good idea
[02:42] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I am running 64bit on the same cpu, amd 4400 X2
[02:42] <Wiredtape_Away> Jewfro-Macabbi, k , thx
[02:42] <Carbonflux> singlesun, only difference is I have a geforce 8600 and no doubt the MB is different
[02:42] <singlesun> Carbonflux, that is definently grunge, but you would have to see how the people built this fan, its ridiculous... fan is screwed up shape and size... and used proprietary components... definently wasnt meant to last
[02:42] <xMS_user> sry Mazus
[02:43] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, fans are a pain, you see that a lot with gcards too
[02:43] <xMS_user> Jewfro-Macabbi: nope fdisk does not seem to be what i need
[02:43] <nemilar> Any idea how to access SMART features on a SATA drive connected via USB?
[02:43] <singlesun> Carbonflux, this is the 8500gt with 512 meg ram on it... works decent
[02:43] <Talon> Nemilar, did you get my question mate ?
[02:43] <todd_> is there a way to mount the network:// uri on the filesystem?
[02:43] <nemilar> Talon: no, what's up?
[02:43] <Talon> Hey Nemilar how to i apply settings with this 3d windows, because when i change its options nothing happens its just the same :/
[02:43] <Talon> thats what me said :)
[02:43] <Carbonflux> singlesun, well, that box should run 64bit np, I have a fairly good install on mine
[02:43] <Jewfro-Macabbi> xMS_user, not familiar with any other good partition tools offhand...
[02:43]  * Cpudan80 Hopes this works
[02:43] <adelie43> will network monitor work with wireless cards using ndiswrapper drivers?
[02:44] <nemilar> Talon: you've got compiz running already?
[02:44] <donald_> adelie43: yes
[02:44] <Talon> yup
[02:44] <Carbonflux> singlesun, the only real issue I had was with the flash plugin
[02:44] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i had backtrack2 running on the laptop last night, but it was running hot.... ... i also do have the 64 bit ubuntu on boot disk... problem was getting flash and java to work.. etc
[02:44] <Talon> workin fine too, i see the 3d windows and all but none of my setting changes show up
[02:44] <Carbonflux> singlesun, you just have to make sure you have the linux32 stuff installed
[02:44] <adelie43> donald_: it isn't showing up
[02:44] <Carbonflux> singlesun, but ya, you have to do a bunch of stuff by hand
[02:44] <nemilar> Talon: try prefs - appearances - visual effects - custom
[02:45] <donald_> singlesun: too much horsepower? install 32bit Gutsy in VirtualBox for java n flash
[02:45] <adelie43> donald_: it also doesn't show up in network tools, only iwconfig
[02:45] <xMS_user> i don't need to partion i need to format (sry if i sound like an idiot but they seem to be 2 diffrent things in windows)
[02:45] <singlesun> Carbonflux, donald_ one sec, phone
[02:45] <tom__> Hi, could somebody please help me with my USB drive?
[02:45] <donald_> adelie43: it should.
[02:45] <nemilar> !ask | tom__
[02:45] <ubotu> tom__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:45] <JohnRobert> what version of Ubuntu should I use for a core 2 duo system? Does the standard kernel have SMP support?
[02:45] <Ex-Cyber> I just printed a 10-page PDF from evince; 6 pages printed, and then it just stopped; the "Document print status" window just says "stopped" for its status, and neither the printer itself nor anything else seems to be indicating an error... what's going on?
[02:45] <Talon> Nem: now im confused sorry were do i go :/
[02:45] <rsk> JohnRobert: yep
[02:45] <Carbonflux> I am fairly happy with 7.10 in 64bit
[02:45] <adelie43> donald_: can you be using wired and wireless at the same time with the same router?
[02:45] <JohnRobert> cool ta
[02:46] <todd_> is there a way to mount the network:// uri as a /media entry on the filesystem?
[02:46] <nemilar> Talon: the Appearances control panel, visual effects tab
[02:46] <tom__> Hello?
[02:46] <Carbonflux> it worked a lot better then I expected
[02:46] <nemilar> Talon: enable Custom
[02:46] <nemilar> !ask > tom__
[02:46] <xMS_user> how do i format a partition?
[02:46] <donald_> adelie43: it chooses one only
[02:46] <nemilar> xMS_user: use gparted
[02:46] <xMS_user> nemilar: it keeps crashing
[02:46] <nemilar> xMS_user: well that stinks....you comfortable with the command line?
[02:46] <Siph0n> hey every website and tutorial i read says to install windows first, than ubuntu..... but if i already have ubuntu (gutsy) installed, is it possible to install windows without messing up ubuntu?
[02:46] <tom__> My drive shows up almost nowhere, and the light that indicated that it should be plugged in is not there
[02:46] <Talon> Well yeah ive been messin in that all day Nem, funny thing is none of my setting changes for the #d windows plugin work
[02:46] <Talon> 3d*
[02:46] <adelie43> donald_: if I tried dhclient for the device, would it fail? said 'Network Down'
[02:47] <donald_> Siph0n: yes
[02:47] <singlesun> Carbonflux, back... but yeah i tried all that, and I screwed it up.. either i would get java or flash working... never both of them... lol
[02:47] <Siph0n> donald_, know of a tutorial for me to follow? :)
[02:47] <donald_> adelie43: using dhclient will work only for open networks
[02:47] <nemilar> Talon: I had that same problem, I don't remember how I fixed it to be honest
[02:47] <adelie43> donald_: open?
[02:47] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i do have the 64 bit boot disk sitting right here though... lol....
[02:47] <nemilar> Talon: mess with it enough and it's bound to kick in
[02:47] <Talon> Damn, mabey i need to reinstall...
[02:47] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, I made a special effort so I could try doing some C++ dev in 64bit
[02:47] <singlesun> Carbonflux, the only thing that stops me is the java and flash... lol
[02:47] <LjL> !away > ader10-ZzZzz    (ader10-ZzZzz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:47] <adelie43> donald_: network only uses mac address filtering...  hmm...
[02:48] <nemilar> tom__: is the drive mounted?
[02:48] <donald_> Siph0n: well. keep a ubuntu alternate disk handy. boot rescue mode.
[02:48] <tom__> No
[02:48] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i couldnt get the blackdown 64 stuff to work on here
[02:48] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I just googled for: howto 64bit Ubuntu 7.10 flash
[02:48] <nemilar> tom__: do you know what device it's been assigned to?
[02:48] <tom__> I can't figure out how to mount it
[02:48] <tom__> No, I don't
[02:48] <arrg> Hey guys does Ubuntu supports games like warcraft 3?
[02:48] <evan_> Hi I'm trying to get ascii extended characters supported in my terminal. ie: degree sign
[02:48] <nemilar> tom__: dmseg | grep -i disk
[02:48] <adelie43> donald_: the mac address would be the same for a combo integrated wired/wireless card, right?
[02:49] <singlesun> Carbonflux, and there is a bunch of teks out there on how to do it... and usually they end up failing on me... lol
[02:49] <jdh6403> arrg: it runs wow and civ4
[02:49] <Carbonflux> arrg, you need a compatablity layer like wine or cedega
[02:49] <arrg> how is that possible ?
[02:49] <donald_> adelie43: no
[02:49] <nemilar> tom__: it should show some lines that start with "sd" and have [sdX] in them, what is the X?
[02:49] <jdh6403> thru wine
[02:49] <tom__> I think you spelt that command wrong
[02:49] <Carbonflux> singlesun, well, there is hardly any performance difference anyway
[02:49] <jdh6403> many other games too
[02:49] <singlesun> Carbonflux, looks slightly better imo
[02:49] <nemilar> tom__: dmesg | grep -i disk
[02:49] <arrg> isn't games like warcraft 3 and wow made for only windows and mac ?
[02:49] <nemilar> tom__: spelled it right
[02:49] <adelie43> donald_: cause this is a friends computer, and hated windows... wireless connected before reinstall.
[02:50] <evan_> I'm getting ? in my terminal where I expect an ascii extended character ...
[02:50] <jdh6403> http://appdb.winehq.org/       arrg  go there
[02:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> xMS_user, see also cfdisk and mkfs commands
[02:50] <donald_> adelie43: u may need a wireless key
[02:50] <jdh6403> wine is a windows emulator
[02:50] <arrg> Yesi understand what you mean guys
[02:50] <Carbonflux> arrg, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29
[02:50] <nemilar> tom__: what's the error you get running the command?  or just no output?
[02:50] <tom__> I don't know which one it is
[02:50] <arrg> but i still can't believe its possible
[02:50] <donald_> sorry all, got to run
[02:50] <tom__> The command worked
[02:50] <arrg> damn this is wonderful
[02:50] <tom__> I don't know which drive it is, tho
[02:51] <arrg> so guess no need to buy windows xp or vista
[02:51] <jdh6403> anything is possible in linux    windows makes things impossible
[02:51] <adelie43> donald_: I was reading something about broadcom cards having full support under 7.10. true? cause when I couldn't get it to connect initially, I used ndiswrapper. there is no wep key
[02:51] <nemilar> tom__: it has multiple entries, sda and sdb, for example?
[02:51] <arrg> true jdh6403
[02:51] <tom__> Yes
[02:51] <arrg> true
[02:51] <singlesun> what i want to know though... is how ubuntu is on one cd... and stuff like slackware, redhat... etc... are on about 6 cd's
[02:51] <Carbonflux> ya, linux is transparent
[02:51] <nemilar> tom__: try running fdisk -l
[02:51] <Carbonflux> so the only limit is your skill
[02:51] <nemilar> tom__: does it list your disk's partitions?
[02:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> singlesun, they just come with more optional packages on the disc
[02:52] <Jewfro-Macabbi> singlesun, I'd guess since Ubuntu gives away CD's - that's partly why they try and stick to one disc
[02:52] <Carbonflux> Ubuntu is more net oriented
[02:53] <singlesun> Jewfro-Macabbi, yeah... i mean.. you can still just get whatever package you need... so i dunno why these other OS's dont do the same
[02:53] <evan_> does anyone know how to get extended ascii characters to display
[02:53] <Carbonflux> singlesun, its a judgment call, Ubuntu assumes you will have a broadband internet connection
[02:53] <singlesun> Jewfro-Macabbi, just thinking back is all, lol... and wondering why my 14 hour redhat installs took so long... when i can install ubuntu in less than 15 mins.. lol
[02:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> singlesun, most other's can actually be installed from the first disc only - with extras containing extra software - I know the Debian CD set is like that
[02:53] <Carbonflux> ya, Fedora is the same
[02:54] <Talon> Nem: My laptop overheated, it rebooted now it all works :D
[02:54] <Carbonflux> you can get minimal installs too iirc
[02:54] <arrg> wine is not an emulator ?
[02:54] <nemilar> Talon: haha, you might consider installing some temperature sensors
[02:54] <Carbonflux> its a compatibility layer arrg ;)
[02:54] <singlesun> Jewfro-Macabbi, Carbonflux, aha... and myself being a package-whore.... said "i want it all" ... so of course...
[02:54] <Carbonflux> heh
[02:54] <arrg> not bad
[02:54] <Andres_22rio4> hello, why i can only share folders of my home and not of other partition?
[02:54] <arrg> isn't ubuntu good as windows ?
[02:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> arrg, correct - wine intercepts the call for a windows component and redirects to a suitable open source replacement - or tries...
[02:55] <Talon> Nem: yeah the fan in this thing has been broke for a long time. been debating about a cooling thing, but thanks for your help i gotta go now but im sure ill be back later, bye bye
[02:55] <|ns|nR8> security reasons Andres_22rio4, permission restrictions
[02:55] <Carbonflux> arrg, basicly it just maps window api calls into linux calls, its only really slow when running directX stuff, if a program supports openGL like Wow for example it runs great
[02:55] <arrg> k
[02:56] <newbie> I need some help, my usb memory is infected with some files, and I cannot delete them. Each time I use it under windows, the files become unusable, and when I try to create a new folder, a lot of trashy files appear. The thing is that the virus file is read only, and I cannot erase it. Is there any command that would help me erasing definitively an specific file?
[02:56] <singlesun> Carbonflux, seems im not the only person with a laptop in the closet that has a fan out... lol... accept when Talon's breaks it comes back fixed...
[02:56] <Carbonflux> arrg, you can run Wow in wine and take maybe only a 1/3 frame rate hit, if you have a fast machine its just as good as windows
[02:56] <Carbonflux> singlesun, laptops suck :)
[02:56] <singlesun> Carbonflux, thats why its in the closet... LOL
[02:56] <Carbonflux> you can't even put most of them on your lap
[02:56] <Carbonflux> it blocks the zillion fans they need
 how i can make it?
[02:57] <Ex-Cyber> ugh... I can print a test page, but if I try to print from evince the job just shows up as "stopped"... how do I fix this?
[02:57] <EADG> newbie: in a terminal you could use "sudo rm -f filename"
[02:57] <newbie> EADG, ok, thanks, will try that
[02:57] <jsoftw> I keep on getting weird lag with Terminal in xfce, for no reason I can find as yet, any ideas? Im low on cpu use, low on ram use...
[02:57] <xMS_user> would mkfs.ext3 -V /dev/sdc4 work?
[02:57] <Carbonflux> arrg, clearly it will never be as fast as native windows, but the advantage of not having to boot windows is a important for some people
[02:58] <newbie> EADG, I got this error -> rm: cannot remove `papps': Input/output error
[02:58] <Carbonflux> important one*
[02:58] <zedster> I was in earlier but maybe someone can try helping me again earlier I ran "apt-get remove udev" and it dumped the kernel I want to know if I can restore the kernel without a full reinstall
[02:58] <singlesun> Carbonflux, people like me.. that have a vista ultimate partition that rarely gets logged onto... lol
[02:58] <Carbonflux> did you run it on your amd machine singlesun ?
[02:59] <xMS_user> mkfs.ext3 -V /dev/sdc4
[02:59] <Jewfro-Macabbi> xMS_user, if you were asking me, I don't know I didn't read the man
[02:59] <EADG> newbie: Hmm, never seen that before. Not sure what to try next...
[02:59] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yep that is what i have it on ;) have to use it for work in visual studio
[02:59] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, I ordered Vista Ultimate so I could play around with VS and DX10
[03:00] <Carbonflux> singlesun, was wondering how it ran on a amd 64
[03:00] <Carbonflux> anyway, off topic here
[03:00] <Carbonflux> lol
[03:00] <newbie> hello, I need some help. I am trying to delete a virus file from a usb memory, using the rm -f command, but got this error->  rm: cannot remove `papps': Input/output error
[03:00] <singlesun> Carbonflux, runs good... lol... oddly there can get to be some screwed up lag when initially loading even moderate sized solutions though
[03:00] <Carbonflux> k
[03:01] <osxdude> newbie: Try ejecting, unplugging, then pluggng back in your flash drive
[03:01] <Carbonflux> singlesun, no doubt it takes a while to upload your source to M$ ;)
[03:01] <pawan> hi
[03:01] <osxdude> lol, my HDD was named "they have 6"
[03:01] <Carl-> hi
[03:01] <singlesun> Carbonflux, or the solutions they keep sending me have extra hardrive killing things that instantly bog down my pc... lol... no.. i dont think so.. i think its the microshaft
[03:02] <newbie> osxdude, already tried that, but still got the same error
[03:02] <Carbonflux> singlesun, VS 2005 ?
[03:02] <exophonix> what is the comman for stop firestarter please ?
[03:02] <newbie> that freaking virus is driving me nuts
[03:02] <osxdude> newbie: your flash drive might have the read protection on...
[03:02] <Carbonflux> exophonix, use the exit in the menu
[03:02] <singlesun> Carbonflux, yep I had 2008 but the files they send me were 2005 so i had to switch back
[03:02] <hans_> hi
[03:02] <Starnestommy> exophonix: sudo invoke-rc.d firestarter stop?
[03:02] <zedster> anyone have any ideas for me?
[03:02] <ojwb> Does anyone know if there's a way to rerun the keyboard layout detection you go through when installing?
[03:02] <arrg> do pc viruses affects linux ?
[03:02] <ojwb> without reinstalling that is...
[03:02] <Scunizi> I have one of my partitions labeled as "fuseblk" under type.  What is fuseblk?
[03:03] <Carbonflux> arrg, normally no
[03:03] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i didnt want to convert for 2k8 and then have them not be able to use naturally
[03:03] <arrg> but linux do have their own viruses right ?
[03:03] <singlesun> key word... = normally.... unless you are me... LOL
[03:03] <Carbonflux> singlesun, thanks for the info, ya I can see that, 2k8 is still beta anyway right ?
[03:03] <nemilar> poor tom__'s hard drive died
[03:03] <jack-desktop> can anyone explain how to use dbus.. or what it does?
[03:03] <newbie> osxdude, mmm I am not familiar with that. This flash drive is simple, has nothing special only the usb port. If you mean there is a hardware protection on, it is impossible. Now, could it be that it has some sort of software protection???
[03:03] <Starnestommy> arrg: very few exist and the ones that do are harmless or don't exist in the wild
[03:03] <singlesun> Carbonflux, you can check out the demo from Microsoft ... its Express though
[03:04] <nemilar> jack-desktop: as I understand it, it's a way for applications to communicate with each other
[03:04] <singlesun> note: I do not endorse the above action... lol
[03:04] <osxdude> newbie: what I meant was a little switch on the side of the flash drive
[03:04] <zedster> anyone in here a ubuntu master?
[03:04] <nemilar> jack-desktop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dbus
[03:04] <jack-desktop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4233478&postcount=10 i want to beable to do that, but i don't have a "~/.dbus/user-dbus-address"
[03:04] <newbie> osxdude, nope, there is no such thing
[03:04] <osxdude> newbie: but that could be a possibility
[03:04] <Carbonflux> arrg, not really, for a lot of reasons, I mean I am sure there are a few but they are a lot harder to write and hide and propigate, also, linux is just not that popular on the desktop, you don't see a lot of botnets with linux machines in them for example, it a lot easier to see whats going on inside a linux machine and also your average linux user is a bit more technical.
[03:05] <osxdude> the little virus could have infected your flash drive...
[03:05] <Hulya_5> hello all...
[03:05] <Hulya_5> look at what you miss : http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/90/17/15/hjk10.jpg
[03:05] <osxdude> newbie: can you copy stuff of of the flash drive?
[03:05] <arrg> ok
[03:05] <singlesun> what carbon said... sounds good... lol
[03:05] <Hulya_5> look at what you miss : http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/90/17/15/hjk10.jpg
[03:05] <Carbonflux> arrg, anything is possible tho :)
[03:05] <hans_> Please, could anyone refer me to a good online bit torrent optimizing guide?
[03:06] <nemilar> jack-desktop: that how-to is pretty advanced... but it's saying to create that file
[03:06] <newbie> osxdude, nope, it says that I do not have permissions to copy into that folder
[03:06] <singlesun> unless you are a supernewbleet like me... and you find ways to bump into things that will purposefully screw up no matter what system you are running
[03:06] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i got everything except that one part
[03:06] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, happens to all of us that take risks
[03:06] <newbie> osxdude, do you know which command I can use to get rid of the permissions? I know it is something like chmod....
[03:06] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i put the echo in the file and then it says file not found, i'm assuming it should be there.. in the /.dbus/ folder
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: the ">" on a command-line is a way of saying "take the output and make it the contents of this file"
[03:07] <osxdude> newbie: chown and chmod, correct :)
[03:07] <Hulya_5> danc3 whispers to Hulya_5:rnHow'd you like to get your ass kicked, motherfucker?
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: do you have a ~/.dbus folder ?
[03:07] <jack-desktop> nemilar, no
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: so create it ;)
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: and then it should work fine
[03:07] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i intend to setup this desktop running virtual box to test different server os's with that excellent laptop i was talking about.. LOL
[03:07] <osxdude> !ops Hulya_5
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops hulya_5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i was thinking > meant like, extract data from that folder.. totally opposite.
[03:08] <nemilar> jack-desktop: ">" is overwrite, ">>" is append
[03:08] <osxdude> !ops | Hulya_5
[03:08] <ubotu> Hulya_5: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:08] <phuzion> anyone got any explanation why my flash is all messed up? it looks like this: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8920/videocf6.png http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2218/youtubemainay3.png
[03:08] <Carbonflux> singlesun, heh
[03:08] <marx2k> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <newbie> osxdude, ok, I had used chmod before, but I do not know which options I have to use, could you tell me which options override the read/write protection?
[03:08] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I ope you get it working
[03:08] <nemilar> jack-desktop: both will create a file if it doesn't exist already, but it won't create a folder
[03:08] <Carbonflux> hope*
[03:08] <singlesun> hope is all there ever is... lol
[03:08] <Josie> Does anyone know how to forward sound using rdesktop?
[03:08] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Hulya_5
[03:08] <ubotu> Hulya_5: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:09] <Hulya_5> ubotu
[03:09] <osxdude> newbie: you should only need to use -R to gain read/write permissions of the flash drive
[03:09] <Hulya_5> can you hear me, ubotu ?
[03:09] <nemilar> Hulya_5: it's a bot.
[03:09] <phuzion> Hulya_5, ubotu is a bot
[03:09] <Hulya_5> really? nice
[03:09] <newbie> osxdude, ok, let me try that
[03:09] <Hulya_5> watch danc3 so bot !
[03:10] <nemilar> haha pwned
[03:10] <osxdude> exactly why I did the !ops command...he doesn't need help
[03:10] <nemilar> My left-click button is broken :( :( this makes computing very difficult.
[03:10] <LockesRabb> dvd playback isnt working
[03:10] <osxdude> owch'
[03:10] <LockesRabb> :)
[03:10] <wease|> tell that to a MAC fanboi
[03:10] <LockesRabb> er
[03:10] <LockesRabb> :(
[03:10] <wease|> hahaha
[03:10] <nemilar> weasel: haha, I said left-click, not right click
[03:10] <osxdude> thanks weasel :P
[03:11] <jsoftw> Ive got X11 running with no xorg.conf. It works cool, except I want to turn of compiz. How do i dump an xorg.conf so I can disable an option?
[03:11] <ale1> is this the right place to ask about a bad iptables config?
[03:11] <LockesRabb> i pop in a dvd, it just opens a window with folders...
[03:11] <osxdude> nemilar: switch the buttons so left is right and right is left
[03:11] <troms> Quick question: how do I format an SD card? I have gParted installed, but it can't find the device
[03:11] <nemilar> ale1: you could definitely try asking
[03:11] <hans_> Please, could anyone refer me to a good online bit torrent optimizing guide?
[03:11] <danc3> thank you PriceChild
[03:11] <nemilar> osxdude: that's what I'm doing at the moment, but it's driving me MADDDDDD
[03:11] <zim__>  I am new to linux, how do I read a cd?  I went to root and went into cdrom which was emtpy and then I tried /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0, both empty  do I need to mount it and if so how?
[03:11] <troms> hans_:  torrentfreak.com
[03:11] <wease|> so change hands
[03:11] <osxdude> nemilar: use the enter key and the space bare AND the tab keys
[03:11] <Tm_T> !away > H4ck3rx|work
[03:11] <wease|> use the other hand
[03:11] <wease|> it will be fine
[03:11] <wease|> just kidding
[03:12] <singlesun> LockesRabb, dvd playback is not directly supported by ubuntu... you have to install a few packages
[03:12] <newbie> osxdude, sorry I got no clue on how to use this :(. Could you give me an example? I used sudo su, then went to the flashdrive folder, and used 'chmod -R papps', but is says 'missing operand after papps'
[03:12] <Scunizi> When looking at System Monitor/File System it shows /media/sdb1 as type "fuseblk".  Is that a file system type like ext3?  That designation doesn't show up in my fsab for any of my partitions.
[03:12] <ale1> @zim: what happens if you eject and then pop it in again?  for me it opens a window automatically
[03:12] <carloc> hi i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on an hp tx2000 tablet pc
[03:12] <carloc> i'm having a whitescreen
[03:12] <nemilar> osxdude: all the stores around here are closed, so I went on craigslist and now I'm trading my nintendo64 for a wireless mouse and keyboard set...guy should be here in an hour.
[03:12] <carloc> sort of clouds
[03:12] <Cpudan80> How can I get the gnome weather applet to download an extended forecast type thing?
[03:12] <carloc> when i put in the live cd
[03:12] <EADG> hans_: Google "torrent program name + wiki' Azareus has a good one for starters.
[03:12] <Cpudan80> Like a 5 day text based forecast
[03:12] <nemilar> Cpudan80: I don't think you can :( the xfce applet is _so_ much better
[03:12] <carloc> does anyon eknow how to solve this?
[03:12] <danc3> Cpudan80: did you read the documentation?
[03:12] <zim__>  ale1: im using server edition because I just wanted to have a personal LAMP to mess around with.  no gui.  I obviously installed off a cd though, so I know the drive works
[03:12] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, what packages do i need to install
[03:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> carloc - there's an alternate/text mode install cd availalbe also
[03:13] <singlesun> LockesRabb, try this guide maybe http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-playback-dvd/
[03:13] <osxdude> newbie: I think what you need it << sudo chmod -R 1000 /media/<flash drive name> >>
[03:13] <Cpudan80> danc3: Well it's not in the preferences...
[03:13] <H4ck3rx|work> thanks Tm_T
[03:13] <Cpudan80> danc3: No, I did not read the man page
[03:13] <Scunizi> nemilar, maybe the xfce appelate will work in gnome?  if it does tell Cpudan80
[03:13] <nemilar> Cpudan80: maybe if we both write letters to the gnome-weather-applet team, we can get them to include the feature
[03:13] <danc3> Cpudan80: no, I said "documentation", not "preferences"
[03:13] <carloc> will that solve the problem for an hp tx2000?
[03:13] <nemilar> Scunizi: I doubt it, I'm gonna try it out now
[03:13] <singlesun> LockesRabb, really you just need the CSS libraries
[03:13] <ale1> http://pastebin.com/d24b0591a  <-- my default iptables
[03:14] <singlesun> LockesRabb, perhaps  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[03:14] <Cpudan80> danc3: No - I have not
[03:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> carloc, not certain - there's also network install for a quicker answer
[03:14] <Scunizi> danc3, what would you type for that.. man ??
[03:14] <ale1> I can't connect to anything with them, so I flushed them all and set policy to accept
[03:14] <danc3> Cpudan80: perhaps you should
[03:14] <carloc> i'm gonna try downloading it now
[03:14] <yannick_1m> hi there
[03:14] <carloc> i get a white screen
[03:14] <ale1> does anyone see a better way besides dumping my whole iptables?
[03:14] <carloc> sort of like a lava lamp
[03:14] <troms> So Ubuntu automounts the SD card, and I can open it and stuff, but I need to format it
[03:15] <singlesun> lol @ like a lava lamp
[03:15] <CITguy> does anybody know how I'd be able to change the color scheme for ONLY the gnome panels?
[03:15] <Shpook> !vcd
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <osxdude> carloc: your monitr needs help
[03:15] <ale1> @CITguy: can't you right click on them?
[03:15] <Shpook> How can I get vcd support?
[03:15] <Tm_T> H4ck3rx|work: you're welcome, I hope you learn from the wisdom of ubotu ;)
[03:15] <CITguy> ale1: I can't change the color of the font
[03:15] <osxdude> CITguy: right click the panel, choose Properities... go to Appearance tab then choose the color
[03:16] <osxdude> you can make it transparent too
[03:16] <zim__>  anyone able to help me with my cd problem?
[03:16] <bpa> whois ubuntu
[03:16] <LockesRabb> singlesun-- followed instructions, gunna try dvd now
[03:16] <LockesRabb> brb
[03:16] <ale1> @CITguy: sorry, don't know about the font off-hand and I'm running KDE atm
[03:16] <CITguy> I am only able to change the background color of the panel. I want to change the FONT color
[03:16] <ale1> does anyone know about iptables here?
[03:16] <singlesun> LockesRabb, cool.. let me know whats up
[03:16] <osxdude> zim__: don't as to ask a question...ask the question :)
[03:16] <yannick_1m> zim__: what's your problem ?
[03:16] <xMS_user> is sudo cp -rxvP /home/* /mnt/bkup/ good?
[03:16] <osxdude> *ask
[03:17] <xMS_user> i mean good for making backups
[03:17] <scorphus> good evening!
[03:17] <osxdude> CITguy: I do not thing you can ONLY change the font color
[03:17] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Shpook, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Multimedia
[03:17] <newbie> osxdude, Thanks for being patient with me. I am desperate to recover my files from that memory. I tried the '-R 1000' option, but still I cannot do anything. I already disconnected several times the memory, but each time I connect it back, there is the same problem
[03:17] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: tou can use -a /home/.
[03:17] <phuzion> anyone got any explanation why my flash is all messed up? it looks like this: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8920/videocf6.png http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2218/youtubemainay3.png
[03:17] <osxdude> think = thing
[03:17] <zim__>  I did ask the question already.  I dont know how to read stuff off the cd and I need help (new, dont know what to do.) do I need to mount it?  how?
[03:17] <scorphus> what packages do I install to have a workable gnome?
[03:17] <yannick_1m> -a is a shortcut for all these option
[03:17] <Josie> Hey, can anyone help me? I can't get sound to forward in rdesktop 1.5
[03:17] <nemilar> Who was asking about the gnome weather applet + forecast??
[03:17] <yannick_1m> and with the final dot you won't miss any hidden file
[03:18] <newbie> osxdude, do you have any other suggestion that could help me copying my files and formatting the memory?
[03:18] <Shpook> Jewfro-Macabbi: Thank you.
[03:18] <danc3> scorphus: Gnome is already installed on Ubuntu
[03:18] <dsnyders> Hi all,  Can I use version control software to merge the contents of folders?
[03:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> scorphus, gnome-desktop-environment
[03:18] <box_> where do u get complete system themes for ubuntu ?
[03:18] <osxdude> newbie: try this command instead: << sudo chown -R <username>:<username> /media/<flash drive name> >>
[03:18] <wease|> synaptic
[03:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, get the gnome-art package
[03:18] <alexrudd> @scrophus: why not just install ubuntu-desktop and remove anything you don't want?
[03:18] <newbie> osxdude, ok
[03:18] <yannick_1m> zim__: usally the CD shoudl have benn mount automatically
[03:19] <scorphus> danc3: sorry, I should have mentioned this is a Ubuntu server installation. A very basic installed on Xen 3
[03:19] <wease|> synaptic houses all DMs
[03:19] <box_> tnx
[03:19] <alexrudd> @zim: what happens if you eject and close it again?
[03:19] <scorphus> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks, let me try it
[03:19] <CITguy> scorphus: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <osxdude> zim__: the CD should mount when you put it in (by default). You may have to open a nautilus window and click "CD Drive"
[03:19] <scorphus> CITguy: okay
[03:19] <LockesRabb> still didnt work
[03:19] <nemilar> Who was asking about the gnome weather applet + forecast??
[03:19] <LockesRabb> damn
[03:19] <zim__>  @alexrudd: nothing  @yannik:it doesnt or I would be fine.
[03:19] <LockesRabb> @singlesun -- dvd wont play
[03:20] <yannick_1m> zim__: ok. Try what other people have suggested
[03:20] <Kles> errr
[03:20] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, i opened it in totem, it plays, but there's blank screen, i tried opening it in gxine, but gxine errored out saying it couldnt read stream
[03:20] <xMS_user> sudo cp -rxvPa
[03:20] <singlesun> LockesRabb, did dvd ever play for you in ubuntu?
[03:20] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, I've never had problems with mplayer
[03:21] <Kles> I'm using Ubuntu since my XP installation went off the deep end and I can't find my XP disc
[03:21] <LockesRabb> no, this is my first time enabling dvd playback
[03:21] <Kles> I can't boot it without safe graphics
[03:21] <zim__>  @osxdude:I am running server edition, I have only command line
[03:21] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: no no. simply cp -a is enough
[03:21] <xMS_user> cool yannick_
[03:21] <alexrudd> @zim: What about mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom?
[03:21] <singlesun> LockesRabb, wait a second.... you said it plays but there is a blank screen? so you hear sounds but there is a blank screen?
[03:21] <Kles> How would I go about getting myself some graphics drivers for this?
[03:21] <Kles> Or some audio?
[03:21] <scorphus> CITguy: aptitude tells me "...439 newly installed..." and "...Need to get 404MB/406MB of archives....". Should I proceed?
[03:21] <osxdude> zim__: Then here ya go: << sudo mount /dev/cdrom >>
[03:21] <CITguy> scorphus: yes
[03:21] <Kles> I'm rather uneducated about this OS :)
[03:21] <osxdude> zim__: that should mount it
[03:21] <scorphus> CITguy: thank you
[03:22] <osxdude> zim__ oh yea and append a mount point to that
[03:22] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, i'm deaf, so i don't know if it's emitting any sounds ;p
[03:22] <CITguy> you're welcome
[03:22] <spithra> how do u start gnome from command prompt
[03:22] <CITguy> spithra: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:22] <Starnestommy> spithra: gnome-session?
[03:22] <CITguy> spithra: or just "startx"
[03:22] <osxdude> LockesRabb: seriously?
[03:22] <LockesRabb> osx, yes
[03:22] <spithra> startx starts kde
[03:22] <box_> after installing gnome-art where do u change options @ ?
[03:23] <osxdude> i've never met a deaf dude before :D
[03:23] <newbie> osxdude, I think I know why I could not copy my files. I was selecting all of the files including the corrupted files. Now I only selected the files that are ok, and it seems to be copying it.
[03:23] <jen2> perhaps it would be better to ask this here than in the kde-specific chan, since it's more generalized: does gutsy (whether in main, universe, etc) have a driver in the repos that supports the via chrome9 k8m890's 3d features?
[03:23] <alexrudd> @scorphus: I'm not sure how aptitude is compared to synaptic, but you might want to go through and remove things you definitely don't want, like "gnome-pilot"
[03:23] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, let me try putting in a different dvd and see if its the same
[03:23] <LockesRabb> osx-- you still havent-- we didnt meet in person yet ;p
[03:23] <zim__>  alexrudd  thanks, worked, didnt know what the name to mount it was (ive mounted usb, but it took a while to figure out what to call that too)
[03:23] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, it's under system - preferences - art manager
[03:23] <osxdude> newbie: Glad sorted it ouy
[03:23] <zim__>  @ all who tried ot help me, thanks
[03:23] <osxdude> *out
[03:23] <singlesun> LockesRabb, ummm.... ok.. if you are being serious... try another dvd i guess
[03:23] <box_> tnx again
[03:23] <newbie> osxdude, Yeeeiii I could recover some files, thank you very much
[03:23] <Mr__> holy cow did anyone ever see this thing it must be brand new or something
[03:23] <scorphus> alexrudd: hmm... let me take a look to this synaptic. thanks
[03:23] <Jewsus> Does ubuntu have another browser besides firefox?
[03:23] <alexrudd> @zim: for future reference, you can check out /etc/fstab  for automatically configured mount points
[03:24] <jen2> epiphany is available
[03:24] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, of course, why would i joke about the dvd not workin?
[03:24] <singlesun> LockesRabb, i new to ubuntu as well... but i know that when i didnt have the right codecs sometimes vids would play the sound and not the actual video
[03:24] <osxdude> zim__ did you try << sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 >>
[03:24] <wease|> aptitude has moo powers
[03:24] <nemilar> Jewsus: you can use Opera if you want
[03:24] <jen2> you can also check out opera
[03:24] <wease|> thats the difference
[03:24] <singlesun> LockesRabb, i meant about beign def
[03:24] <LockesRabb> hmmm
[03:24] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/funny/this-is-sparta/ <---- HAHA!!!!!
[03:24] <Kitar|st> lool
[03:24] <nemilar> Jewsus: there's also a bunch of Gecko-based browsers
[03:24] <Mr__> oops thought i said it
[03:24] <Mr__> lol
[03:24] <troms> what the default max limit of half-open connections in Ubuntu? or does it even work like that/
[03:24] <Jewsus> hmm
[03:24] <alexrudd> @osxdude: yeah, he said that worked when I suggested it
[03:24] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, gnome art just downloads/installs different themes/icons/windows borders for you - you can then use them via system - preferences - appearance
[03:24] <newbie> osxdude, one last question. I have never formated a flash drive from the command line before. Do you know how can I do it? Is there any option that erases EVERYTHING, not only the boot sector?
[03:24] <Mr__> i just stumbled on this ourbuntu.com thing must be in the works or something
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> sudo aptitude moo | sudo aptitude -v moo
[03:24] <LockesRabb> @singlesun -- i'd much rather NOT be deaf, i hate it, and i prefer not to mention it, i wouldn't have mentioned it if u hadnt asked me if i could hear it
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> ;)
[03:24] <wease|> speed, exactly
[03:24] <alexrudd> does anyone know about iptables?
[03:24] <jen2> troms: i don't even think that applies, as ubuntu has an *intelligently designed* tcp/ip stack
[03:24] <zim__>  alexrudd:i dont think it was autoconfig because it didnt spin the disk or give me anyoutputs when I put it in.  for the usb that I had to manually mount (due to some windows weirdness in it) it at least popped up the init lines and the device gave indications it was connected
[03:24] <CITguy> spithra: This may sound stupid, but do you have Gnome installed?
[03:25] <Mr__> anyone know of it?
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> super cow powers baby :)
[03:25] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, have you tried mplayer.  I find it works much better than totem.
[03:25] <wease|> \m/
[03:25] <wease|> gotta love the power
[03:25] <singlesun> LockesRabb, give the other dvd a shot... and see.... if not... i really cant help much more....... i suggested all that i could... but these guys are pretty savvy and can prolly help ya fix it
[03:25] <osxdude> newbie: unfortunatley I don't know... might have to look it up.
[03:25] <troms> jen2: so I don't have to worry about slow browsing speeds when bittorrent is on?
[03:25] <xMS_user> yannick_1m: sudo -a /home/* /mnt/bk ?
[03:25] <hans_> Please, could someone refer me to a guide on optimizing ktorrent?
[03:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alexrudd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28ip%29%7C%28tables%29
[03:25] <Mr__> hmmm
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> doesnt the moo power go to the v6 power or so?
[03:26] <LockesRabb> well well well
[03:26] <wease|> speed, too bad they dont offer that in the newer versions *frowns*
[03:26] <LockesRabb> what do i know
[03:26] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: sudo cp -av /home/. /mnt/bk
[03:26] <newbie> osxdude, all right you already helped me a lot, and saved me from loosing important data. Damn Windows....    Thank you very much!
[03:26] <LockesRabb> mplayer was able to play the Dvd
[03:26] <tumbleweed05> hey people.
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> newer versions?
[03:26] <troms> hans_: ktorrent is a lot like utorrent, check torrentfreak or the utorrent forums
[03:26] <yannick_1m> (-v so you can see what's goig on :)
[03:26] <singlesun> LockesRabb, lol go figure... lol
[03:26] <tumbleweed05> is utorrent available for ubuntu?
[03:26] <wease|> i havent had the cows on my screen since 6.06
[03:26] <arkanes> troms: bittorrent, left to its own devices, will saturate your bandwidth and it certainly can affect your browsing experience
[03:26] <LockesRabb> thanks dsynders & singlesun
[03:26] <miles_> My soundcard wont work... checked alsamixer and im looking for the soundcard but I dont know my model of motherboard or sound card...
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> it works with ubuntu 7.10's aptitude
[03:26] <nemilar> tumbleweed05: no, it's a windows application
[03:26] <miles_> I dont know what to do
[03:26] <nemilar> tumbleweed05: for something similar, check out deluge
[03:26] <singlesun> LockesRabb, wouldnt have played without those CSS libraries though ;)
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> thanks nemilar
[03:27] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, haha yes
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> anyone know of a good bit torrent client for ubuntu?
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> i dunno what your doing there weasel but it works for me :)
[03:27] <LockesRabb> @singlesun i'm checkin to see if mplayer supports subtitles
[03:27] <wease|> haha
[03:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> tumbleweed05, azureus
[03:27] <troms> arkanes: in windows, just having bittorrent on with a few dls is enough to cripple your browsing speeds
[03:27] <nemilar> !best | tumbleweed05
[03:27] <ubotu> tumbleweed05: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[03:27] <rsk> tumbleweed05: azureus for gui and rtorrent for consile
[03:27] <wease|> it just says super cow powers arent available with my copy
[03:27] <osxdude> you are welcome newbie :) :) :D
[03:27] <yannick_1m> tumbleweed05: deluge, transmission, if you wan someting light
[03:27] <xMS_user> thanks yannick_1m
[03:27] <Guest_548> hey can someone please help me with an OS installation? having some issues..
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> weird
[03:27] <singlesun> LockesRabb, hmm... that i do not know.. i never tried that
[03:27] <nemilar> there's got to be 500 BT apps for linux
[03:27] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, I'm pretty sure it does.  It is quite flexible
[03:27] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: you're welcom :)
[03:27] <nemilar> !ask > Guest_548
[03:27] <newbie> could somebody tell me how can I format a usb drive from the command prompt? I need to erase EVERYTHING, not only the boot sector. There are some corrupted files that seem to not move/erase, so I need to destroy anything on that usb and make it usable again
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> alright. transmission. i use that for my mac mini.
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> thanks people.
[03:28] <singlesun> LockesRabb, its been a very long time since i watched any movies... lol
[03:28] <neuber> Can anyone help me install nvidia drivers on a server kernel?
[03:28] <miles_> Help for miles?
[03:28] <arkanes> troms: No, windows is capable of handling the load without much trouble. The problems are likely related to your upstream provider or your network, and won't neccesarily go away on ubuntu
[03:28] <miles_> Help for miles/
[03:28] <nemilar> neuber: why would you want nvidea drivers on a server?
[03:28] <CITguy> newbie: look for a tutorial for fdisk
[03:28] <LockesRabb> cool, subtitles work
[03:28] <neuber> nemilar i'm only using the server headers because i need the extended memory support
[03:29] <LockesRabb> interesting
[03:29] <singlesun> LockesRabb, right on ;)
[03:29] <nemilar> neuber: tru
[03:29] <LockesRabb> every time i try to change to english subtitle, or skip to another chapter in dvd
[03:29] <arkanes> troms: a different BT client may have an effect
[03:29] <yannick_1m> miles_: what's your problem ?
[03:29] <LockesRabb> mplayer emits an error
[03:29] <troms> arkanes: I had to us LvlLord's EventID tcpip patcher in XP and sucurevista's tcpip patch in vista
[03:29] <LockesRabb> says "gnome_screen_saver_control()"
[03:29] <singlesun> LockesRabb, it says... watch the whole thing from beginning to end... lol
[03:29] <neuber> nemilar: i have a readme on how to do it but its really not helping
[03:29] <troms> i havent had any problems, just wondering if I would run into any
[03:30]  * wease| plays minesweeper in aptitude
[03:30] <singlesun> LockesRabb, really i have no clue about that
[03:30] <nemilar> neuber: can't help you, Intel video here
[03:30] <miles_> yannick_lm: I cant get my sound to work. I have an SiS card but I dont know the model. Its on a foxconn. Ive tried alsa mixer and ive checked to see if it is recognized and it is...
[03:30] <scorphus> alexrudd and CITguy: I think I should show you a screenshot of what I get, I'm sure you'll guide me to fix this. I have no window border, title and no window list on the bottom panel: http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/1/30/f_ubuntugutsym_42e884a.png
[03:30] <tumbleweed05> i didn't know transmission was packaged with ubuntu.
[03:30] <tumbleweed05> nice.
[03:31] <tumbleweed05> alright but i'm out. thanks everyone.
[03:31] <arkanes> troms: if those patches are supposed to remove the connection throttling, that's a consequence of poorly behaved BT clients, not windows per se
[03:31] <scorphus> I just want to fix that... I don't really need all those hundred applications
[03:31] <yannick_1m> miles_: I'm sorry, I don't know much about sound cards.
[03:31] <CITguy> scorphus: try "metacity --replace"
[03:31] <miles_> yannick_lm: thanks anyway
[03:31] <Kles> how do I run something as root?
[03:31] <scorphus> CITguy: ok
[03:31] <wease|> that was fun
[03:31] <neuber> kles: su root
[03:31] <Jewsus> A website says an applet is supposed to pop-up in another window, but it isn't working in firefox
[03:31] <Jewfro-Macabbi> scorphus, you might try the aptitude search tool - I think the base package is called gnome-core but search fore gnome and it will list everything
[03:31] <Kles> thanks
[03:32] <Jewsus> but it doesn't show the pop-up blocker thing
[03:32] <Kles> uhhh
[03:32] <scorphus> CITguy: metacity --replace fixed it
[03:32] <troms> arkanes: I use utorrent, and max that sucker out, if i use the default amount in vista, I get decent bt speeds, but with the patch i get awesome bt speeds and great speeds everywhere else
[03:32] <scorphus> Jewfro-Macabbi: let me try it
[03:32] <Kles> it asks as a password - what do I put in? I don't have a password
[03:32] <scorphus> thanks
[03:32] <CITguy> Jewsus: do you see a lightbulb on the bottom right hand side of the window?
[03:32] <Guest_548> Can someone please help? After my first successful installation of Gutsy, my OS won't boot.. What could I have done wrong?
[03:32] <singlesun> anyone really bored??.... check this out... telnet this.... or better yet... just put this in your terminal     "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"
[03:32] <CITguy> scorphus: you're welcome
[03:32] <Jewsus> CITguy, non
[03:32] <Jewsus> no*
[03:32] <neuber> kles i think you need to set one first...
[03:32] <yannick_1m> Kles: try sudo su - aand put your awn pass
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Guest_548, What happens when you turn the computer on?
[03:33] <Pici> !sudo | Kles
[03:33] <ubotu> Kles: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[03:33] <yannick_1m> * own pass
[03:33] <singlesun> Carbonflux, you still there?
[03:33] <arkanes> troms: If you're the sort of person to whom BT traffic is important enough that you'll install binary patches to your tcp stack just to try to get faster downloads, well more power to you
[03:33] <CITguy> Jewsus: what version of Ubuntu and Firefox are you using?
[03:33] <jsoftw> How do i get an xorg.conf ?
[03:33] <Guest_548> It freezes at the initial Ubuntu screen with the orange progress bar. Freezes about 10% of the way.
[03:33] <Jewsus> ubunty 7.10 gutsy, firefox version 2.0.0.11
[03:33] <troms> arkanes: lol, i live off bt
[03:33] <arkanes> troms: there's nothing that patching the stack does that fixing the BT clients won't do. BT clients are not well known for being reliable and well behaved network applications
[03:33] <neuber> anyway... anyone want to help me install nvid drivers on server kernel?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, You most likely already have one... What are you trying to do?
[03:34] <Jewsus> ubuntu*
[03:34] <CITguy> Guest_548: when that loading screen shows up press ALT+F1 to see what your machine is doing
[03:34] <Kles> urk
[03:34] <Kles> what is a "X server"
[03:34] <Jordan_U> neuber, Why are you using the server kernel?
[03:34] <alex_rudd> ARGH I hate university network.  (1) It decimates network-manager  (2)It blocks IRC!
[03:34] <Guest_548> I've tried the Live CD and the alternate CD for Gutsy and the alternate CD for Fiesty.
[03:34] <jsoftw> Jordan_U: i dont have one.
[03:34] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I want to merge the contents of some directories.  Would a version control software be of any use?
[03:34] <neuber> jordan_u for the extended memory support
[03:34] <alex_rudd> anyway, sorry for vent.   Anyone know iptables?
[03:34] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, perhaps module-assistant?
[03:34] <jsoftw> Jordan_U: im trying to get one. Then I will disable Composite things for nvidia.
[03:34] <Guest_548> Let me try that, hold on.
[03:35] <CITguy> Kles: X server is the program that allows you to have a desktop, windows and the sort
[03:35] <troms> arkanes: bittorrent is built to misbehave, no one thought you've dling chucks from thousands of connections at once
[03:35] <arkanes> Kles: the X server is the application that provides the graphical interface for your ubuntu installation
[03:35] <Kles> oh yuck
[03:35] <jsoftw> Unless its somewhere other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then I dont have one.
[03:35] <FrankieB333> I need help with my screen resolution and xserver!!
[03:35] <alex_rudd> @dsnydners: have you looked into unison?
[03:35] <Kles> I can't install these drivers when it's running
[03:35] <arkanes> troms: untrue, but there's not really anything more to say.
[03:35] <neuber> jewfro-macabbi, i know nothing of module assistant...
[03:35] <peterpants> I'm trying to run a C program i wrote using gcc, but everytime i run ./a.out scanf doesn't seem to pick up the input and the variable is the same.., any ideas?
[03:35] <Jewsus> CITguy, I'm using ubuntu 7.10 gutsy, and firefox version 2.0.0.11
[03:35] <Jordan_U> neuber, You have 4+ GIG of RAM on a 32 bit machine?
[03:35] <miles_> Is it necessary to restart to hear sound/
[03:35] <CITguy> Jewsus: ok, gimme a sec
[03:35] <Guest_548> alt f1 isnt doing anything, screen is still frozen
[03:35] <Jewsus> ok
[03:35] <FrankieB333> I need help with my screen resolution and xserver!!
[03:35] <neuber> jordan_u, correct
[03:35] <jsoftw> peterpants: gcc foo.c -o myapp
[03:35] <LockesRabb> okay
[03:35] <jsoftw> ./myapp
[03:36] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, I'm looking for you - it's a way to install graphics drivers
[03:36] <troms> arkanes: im not gonna worry about it, just something from windows I expected to find in ubuntu and pleasenlt suprised that I havent
[03:36] <LockesRabb> i solved the gnome_screensaver_control() error in mplayer
[03:36] <FrankieB333> how?
[03:36] <jsoftw> Cmon people. How do I dump xorg's config.
[03:36] <LockesRabb> all i had to do was go in preferences and uncheck the "stop xscreensaver" option
[03:36] <Jordan_U> neuber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[03:36] <LockesRabb> that solved it
[03:36] <FrankieB333> nice
[03:36] <jsoftw> Im running with no xorg.conf right now, how do I dump what xorg is currently running as.
[03:36] <peterpants> jsoftw: i tried that but my scanf still isn't setting the variable :(
[03:36] <FrankieB333> but i still need help with my xorg and what not
[03:36] <CITguy> Jewsus: does the applet work fine otherwise?
[03:36] <jsoftw> then its your code
[03:37] <stelt> workaround for broken partitioner ?
[03:37] <alex_rudd> @jsoftw dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  would do it, I think.   I don't know enough about it to recommend it, though
[03:37] <Jewsus> There is no applet, it's supposed to open another window and load in that window
[03:37] <Guest_548> if i turn it off and the progress bar first starts running and actually moving, when i press alt f1 it starts scrolling, numbers in  the front of the message increasing but cant read what it says, scrolling very fast
[03:37] <Kles> hmmm, I'm not likely to find sound drivers for my built in audio :/
[03:37] <troms> I need to format an SD card, I have gparted and the the device automounts, but gparted can't find it
[03:37] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, I don't want to synchronize the directories.  I want to eliminate duplicate files.
[03:37] <FrankieB333> ive been doing dpkg-reconfigure for the past half hour
[03:37] <CITguy> Jewsus: do you have javascript enabled?
[03:37] <jsoftw> alex_rudd: thanks
[03:37] <Jewsus> um but applets work in other pages, when they don't load in separate windows
[03:37] <FrankieB333> and it hasn't been giving me the settings i want
[03:37] <Jewsus> yes javascript is enabled
[03:37] <arkanes> jsoftw: I don't think you can. Why did you delete your xorg.conf?
[03:37] <yannick_1m> jsoftw or simply sydi dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[03:37] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" but why don't you have an xorg.conf
[03:37] <alex_rudd> @dsnyders: you can merge dupes, or copy one to the other.  Then delete the extra directory
[03:37] <yannick_1m> you'll have to answer less questions
[03:37] <CITguy> Jewsus: could you post the link so I can try?
[03:38] <Jewsus> okay, http://optimallearning.org/cb/indexo.html
[03:38] <scorphus> CITguy: :/ everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace, what am I still missing?
[03:38] <alex_rudd> iptables help anyone?
[03:38] <FrankieB333> what is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core supposed to do?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> scorphus, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[03:38] <jsoftw> arkanes: I did not delete it.
[03:38] <scorphus> ok
[03:38] <arkanes> jsoftw: then where did it go?
[03:38] <jsoftw> I added a new monitor, and its not working properly with my origional xorg.conf
[03:38] <jsoftw> ffs.
[03:39] <jsoftw> Stop trying to sidetrack the issue.
[03:39] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, I'll take a closer look at unison, then.
[03:39] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, What sort of help do you need with iptables?
[03:39] <jsoftw> xorg runs fine right now, _except_ that I want to disable one option
[03:39] <jsoftw> for which afaik I need an xorg.conf for.
[03:39] <nemilar> pppoe_dude: nice site man, I'm at www.techthrob.com
[03:39] <CITguy> Jewsus: It's not working for me either. I suspect the applet isn't working properly.
[03:39] <arkanes> if X is running, then it had a (working) xorg.conf when it started
[03:39] <arkanes> if that xorg.conf is no longer present, you did something to change it
[03:40] <arkanes> undo whatever you did
[03:40] <Jewsus> CITguy, I remember the applet used to work fine when I was running windows
[03:40] <jack-desktop> does anyone live where it's raining right now?
[03:40] <alex_rudd> @dsndyers.  I have to flush them all to connect to anything.  http://pastebin.com/d24b6591a
[03:40] <EADG> Snow is rain right?
[03:40] <jack-desktop> yes
[03:40] <CITguy> Jewsus: so it's worked in windows but not in Ubuntu?
[03:40] <Jewsus> yes
[03:40] <EADG> ... it's raining then :)
[03:40] <CITguy> Jewsus: were you using firefox with windows?
[03:40] <dsnyders> EADG, snow is not rain.  You don't have to shovel it.
[03:40] <jsoftw> arkanes: WRONG.
[03:40] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, "module-assistant" is a package in universe, info on it on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?highlight=%28nvidia%29#Libraries
[03:40] <RB2> By any chance, does anyone know (or have a link to any information) what the performance difference under compiz is between the NVidia Quadro NVS 140M and the Quadro FX 570M?
[03:40] <thefool_> anyone know of a way to log EVERYTHING I type in a command line? Including when I am inside an interpreter or something?
[03:40] <Jewsus> CITguy, yes, I think so
[03:41] <jsoftw> arkanes: dude, xorg can run without an xorg.conf
[03:41] <alex_rudd> oh, crap I mistyped the pastebin link :(
[03:41] <bugs-bunny> list
[03:41] <daniele851> hey
[03:41] <dsnyders> EADG, shovel rain that is.
[03:41] <EADG> Snow = no mosquitos.
[03:41] <Pici> !offtopic | EADG
[03:41] <scorphus> Jordan_U: gnome-themes is missing I'm installing it
[03:41] <ubotu> EADG: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:41] <jsoftw> Unless there is some magical xorg.conf hiding somewhere other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then my xorg is RUNNING WITHOUT AN XORG.CONF
[03:41] <neuber> jewfro-macabbi THANKS!
[03:41] <daniele851> hi alls
[03:41] <jsoftw> and its working sweet, except for one tiny thing.
[03:41] <bugs-bunny> hola amigos
[03:41] <arkanes> there's lots of other places it can get one from
[03:41] <daniele851> hola
[03:41] <arkanes> how did you start X?
[03:41] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[03:41] <jsoftw> normal login screen.
[03:41] <Jordan_U> scorphus, I only meant to go there to turn off desktop effecs ( compiz )
[03:41] <sarixe> hi, i'm getting an md5sum mismatch trying to install flashplugin-nonfree.  any help on that?
[03:42] <Pici> !flashissue | sarixe
[03:42] <arkanes> then it used the one in /etc/X11
[03:42] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, The pastebin is empty.
[03:42]  * Pici pokes the bot
[03:42] <ubotu> sarixe: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: no it did NOT.
[03:42] <sarixe> thanks
[03:42] <CITguy> Jewsus: I'm sorry, from all of the information I'm getting, it seems to be a problem with the way the applet is coded.
[03:42] <arkanes> then it's not a "normal login screen"
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: Look dude.
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: you are wrong.
[03:42] <Jewsus> hmm, okay
[03:42] <CITguy> Jewsus: I would contact the developer to see if they have a solution.
[03:42] <alex_rudd> @dsnyders: Yes, I had to copy it to paper from Ubuntu, and I'm on windows now :(
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: its running _without_ an xorg.conf right now, mmm kay?
[03:42] <navetz> can somone tell me how I can reallocate the amount of space on my virtual XP partition in vmware-server
[03:42] <arkanes> no it isn't
[03:42] <jack-desktop> EADG, did you get the messages i sent you?
[03:42] <Ububegin> how can i increase my workspaces...
[03:43] <Jewsus> Thanks anyway CITguy
[03:43] <arkanes> or rather, it didn't start that way
[03:43] <jsoftw> arkanes: ls: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[03:43] <arkanes> it certainly didn't from a "normal" login screen
[03:43] <jsoftw> dude, its from that ubuntu login screen, you know, that normal one.
[03:43] <alex_rudd> restart time yay
[03:43] <jsoftw> arkanes: stop talking rubbish, the file is _NOT_ there.
[03:43] <CITguy> Jewsus: For what it's worth, you're welcome.
[03:43] <Guest_548> So.. Would anyone be able to help?
[03:43] <tickler> sup
[03:43] <bugs-bunny> oh oh
[03:43] <arkanes> that doesn't mean it *wasn't* there
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: dude, I can restart the box and it will behave just the same.
[03:44] <tickler> hello
[03:44] <EADG> jack-desktop: yes, I see it now. Medicine Hat Alberta.
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: stop trying to tell me what is happening on my own box
[03:44] <arkanes> jsoftw: then you or someone else has done something unusual to your system
[03:44] <arkanes> jsoftw: do you know what it is?
[03:44] <tickler> running studio ubuntu
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: you _do_ know that xorg can run happy _WITHOUT_ an xorg.conf, dont you?
[03:44] <jdh6403> ooooo nerd fight
[03:44] <arkanes> no, it can't
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: bollocks.
[03:44] <arkanes> you know that it doesn't have to be named that, right?
[03:44] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[03:44] <troms> brb, going into ubuntu
[03:44] <Pici> jsoftw, arkanes: stop bickering.
[03:45] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, Maybe it's for the best.  I'm  a novice at iptables, but I'm willing to take a look
[03:45] <badlinker> test
[03:45] <arkanes> but it is by default, and if that's not the one it's using, then you are *not* runnig a "normal" ubuntu
[03:45] <saturdayplace> Just installed gutsy.  Said I had something like 185 updates to install.  So I go for it.  They all download fine, but when the install begins, it fails real fast with the following error:
[03:45] <saturdayplace> An error occurred.  The following details are provided.
[03:45] <saturdayplace> e:/var/cache/apt/archives/.ibc6_2.6.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted archive
[03:45] <jsoftw> arkanes: oh noes. im not running a normal ubuntu.
[03:45] <jsoftw> Anyway.
[03:45] <jack-desktop> where is that EADG
[03:45] <Pici> jsoftw: What version of Ubuntu are you running anyway?
[03:45] <saturdayplace> linix newb.  Any ideas.
[03:45] <jdh6403> saturdayplace: go to ubuntu with that
[03:45] <jsoftw> Pici: erm... 7.10
[03:45] <arkanes> if you're not running a normal ubuntu, you should know enough about what you did to know what you did to X
[03:46] <saturdayplace> jdh6403: isn't that this?
[03:46] <jsoftw> arkanes: its a single file man. stop being a dork.
[03:46] <arkanes> maube you're running XFree86 instead
[03:46] <jdh6403> no  go here #ubuntu
[03:46] <EADG> jack-desktop: Canada. I forget the airport XXX for here.
[03:46] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> why do i get this error after like 5 seconds when testing my mic? Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:46] <Pici> jdh6403: this is #ubuntu...
[03:46] <jdh6403> omg  lol
[03:46] <jdh6403> oops
[03:46] <jdh6403> im in the wroing channel
[03:46] <L3ttuc3> saturdayplace looks like a corrupted download...
[03:46] <jdh6403> sorry   ya youre in the right place
[03:47] <jsoftw> arkanes: maybe you should stop being an egg and realize that all that has changed, is A: New monitor, B: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_OLD
[03:47] <jdh6403> someone slap me
[03:47]  * saturdayplace slaps jdh6403
[03:47] <saturdayplace> :)
[03:47] <Pici> jdh6403: please stop with the name calling, I realize you're frustrated, but thats not called for.
[03:47] <Pici> jdh6403: er.. forget that.
[03:47] <Pici> jsoftw: ^^
[03:47] <jdh6403> lol
[03:48]  * jdh6403 huggles pici
[03:48] <saturdayplace> L3ttuc3: what should I do?  Try and re-download that specific package?
[03:48] <goodtimes> someone sent me their config file for their kernel but they compiled it as a 32 bit kernel, what settings do I need to change to make this a 64 bit kernel?
[03:48] <arkanes> jsoftw: if your X configuration has changed, then you have a changed config file and you have restarted X to see it
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: ahh uh
[03:48] <L3ttuc3> saturdayplace that would be an idea.
[03:48] <Guest_548> I'm trying to boot Feisty on a Dell Dimension 2350. I have Gutsy installed in it as well because I had the same problem with it. It freezes in the process of booting where the Ubuntu logo is and the orange progress bar appears. It hangs at around 10%. Pressing alt+F1 shows what it's doing, but all it shows is a series of numbers (going in order) and characters scrolling by really fast. Something like this "[421.453423]  [<c01gf75fhf>]
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: actually I moved the config file.
[03:48] <arkanes> okay
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: so there is no xorg.conf anymore.
[03:48] <arkanes> that's not the same thing
[03:48] <jsoftw> As mentioned above.
[03:48] <arkanes> jsoftw: have you restarted X since then?
[03:49] <jsoftw> yes, as I already mentioned.
[03:49] <arkanes> I don't believe you
[03:49] <jsoftw> Thats your problem, _not_ mine.
[03:49] <mynyml> is there an official fix for the flash problem?
[03:49] <Pici> jsoftw: your last /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show what config file its running out of.
[03:49] <mynyml> or a .deb package floating somewhere?
[03:49] <arkanes> possibly failsafe X saved you?
[03:49] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> any ideas why i get this error when testing my mic?   Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:49] <Pici> !flashissues > mynyml (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:49] <arkanes> it's never worked here, I don't know where it writes its config
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: failsafe X does not run at 1680x1050
[03:50] <alex_r> @dyn-something :http://pastebin.com/m4b0442b4
[03:50] <Jangari> anyone knwo if sox can concatenate more than 32 input files at once?
[03:50] <bra1> hello?
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes:  (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: its _not_ using a config file.
[03:50] <lanzelloth_> mynyml: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[03:50] <Jangari> know*
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: how many times to I have to tell you.
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles]
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	create mack = 0644
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	writeable = yes
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	path = /var/www
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis
[03:50] <FloodBot1> sapperjanko1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	force group = mark
[03:51] <arkanes> then it's failsafe X
[03:51] <lanzelloth_> mynyml: fulll guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833
[03:51] <L3ttuc3> jsoftw  pastebin the whole thing?
[03:51] <jsoftw> L3ttuc3: ok.
[03:51] <sapperjanko1> OPPPS, i didnt know if ya copy paste it floods..... MY BAD
[03:51] <bra1> I'm having some problems installing ubuntu, and thought I might find help here
[03:51] <thefool_> so any way to log every key typed in a gnome session? I don't need it to be in any way hidden
[03:51] <mynyml> Pici: lanzelloth: thanks
[03:52] <lanzelloth_> np
[03:52] <Guest_548> Is there another Ubuntu IRC channel I can use that can offer help?
[03:52] <thefool_> bra1: what kind of problems are you having? What are you installing on?
[03:52] <hsystemxX> hi
[03:52] <alex_r> hmm, lost my contact: IPTABLES help anyone?
[03:52] <troms> How do I format an SD card? it's mounted (automounted) and I have gparted installed
[03:52] <professorchaos> irc://thelinuxlink.net/#techshow
[03:52] <bra1> I'm trying to instal 7.04 on a laptop, live runs fine, but partitioning isn't something I'm any good at
[03:53] <arkanes> bra1: are you trying to co-exist with an existing OS, or installing over the entire thing?
[03:53] <bra1> co-exist
[03:53] <arkanes> the installation wizard should have an option to resize your existing partition
[03:54] <Falstius> bra1: depending on your needs, wubi might be a good option
[03:54] <lanzelloth_> what do suspend and hybernate do?
[03:54] <thefool_> ok, well the first thing you need to do is backup your data as unless you have a second harddrive or an empty partiton you will need to resize the one you have. And resizing has a slight risk of totally fubaring everything
[03:54] <jsoftw> L3ttuc3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54174/
[03:54] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line
[03:54] <jsoftw> arkanes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54174/
[03:54] <Falstius> bra1: it lets you install ubuntu to empty space on your windows partition so you don't need to resize or format partitions.
[03:55] <fluvvell> Guest_548: have you tried some different boot settings?
[03:55] <alex_r> @Falstius: that's a hack.  He's better off just sucking it up and learning partitions. :P
[03:55] <thefool_> lanzelloth_: suspend is like sleep, hibernate writes your ram to the hard drive and shuts the computer down. When you start it back up you are back where you were, unsaved documents open and all
[03:55] <Guest_548> Where can I select different boot settings?
[03:55] <Guest_548> Or how, rather?
[03:55] <sycho> Did they remove Gnome from the 7.10-i36-alternate install?
[03:55] <arkanes> jsoftw: it's the fancy new failsafe. Pretty impressive, too. The config it's using is inline in the logfile, you should be able to copy that to a new xorg.conf
[03:56] <Guest_548> I boot from HD if thats what you mean
[03:56] <Jordan_U> bra1, Ubuntu can partition your drive for you automagically ( have any important data backed up as with any time you mess with partitions )
[03:56] <Falstius> alex_r: it works well, is easy and is safe.  Perfect for experimenting.  Once he likes ubuntu, he can wipe his windows install and do it all fresh.  Traditional dual booting is archaic.
[03:57] <bra1> I've got important stuff backed up, working on it now
[03:57] <linchapulin> Anyone have experience with Wine(the emulator)? How do I increase the hard drive size?
[03:57] <lanzelloth_> thefool_: suspend/sleep = offs monitor, HDD?
[03:57] <fluvvell> Guest_548: there may be some specifics for your dell, but you could try noacpi in the boot string.  You need to edit the grub line
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Falstius, archaic is going a bit far
[03:57] <thefool_> lanzelloth_ yep
[03:57] <alex_r> @linchapulin: drive_c is just a folder under /home, so it should have as much as your home dir
[03:57] <lanzelloth_> thefool_: ok, thx
[03:57] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line
[03:58] <Guest_548> fluvvel: So I enter the command line and type "noapci" ?
[03:58] <thefool_> Falstius: I think dual booting is necessary in many contexts
[03:58] <alex_dinamo> hello guys.. need some help here
[03:58] <alex_dinamo> I need to install SUN Java 1.4 on Feisty (7.10)
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> do you know where can I get the packages?
[03:59] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[03:59] <Jordan_U> alex_dinamo, Any reason for 1.4 specifically?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> the do not appear anymore on synaptic (what a pitty)
[03:59] <adelie43> when setting up wireless, any chance sudo modprobe ndiswrapper takes a REALLY long time?
[03:59] <linchapulin> alex_r:: I am trying to activate Photoshop, but when I go into the advance to use telephone activation it stops saying it is out of hard drive space?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> compatibility
[03:59] <Jordan_U> !java | alex_dinamo
[03:59] <ubotu> alex_dinamo: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:59] <arkanes> pawan: right click on the desktop
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> here we use that as standard
[03:59] <fluvvell> Guest_548: first, what size hard drive do you have?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> ubotu: I need 1.4 specifically
[03:59] <alex_r> linchapulin: which version of PS?  I don't they they play well with wine
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> !java
[03:59] <thefool_> so any way to log every key typed in a gnome session? I don't need it to be in any way hidden.
[04:00] <Guest_548> fluvvel: 30gb harddrive Gutsy install on one partition and a fiesty on another partition. Right now trying fiesty
[04:00] <sycho> Has gnome been removed from the alternate installs? The last few times I have loaded the alternate installs gnome has not been installed. This has happened with both i386 alternate and server alternate. But gnome is installed with x64 alternate.
[04:00] <Jordan_U> thefool_, Why out of curiosity?
[04:00] <linchapulin> alex_r:: CS 2...runs like a son of a gun ...just can't activate it...
[04:00] <sapperjanko1> so anyone got ideas what im doin wrong with samba
[04:00] <Wiggy-Lintop> net
[04:01] <fluvvell> Guest_548: The forums suggest you should... "In the BIOS setup in the menu "Intergrated Devices (LegacySelect Options)" I increased "Onboard Video Buffer" from 1 MB to 8 MB."
[04:01] <EADG> thefool_: install lkl
[04:01] <alex_dinamo> any ideas, anyone?
[04:01] <fluvvell> Guest_548: They also suggest that in the grub boot line using nosplash should help.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> fluvvell, Are you trying to get full resolution from an intel GPU?
[04:02] <Devinion> Really wish XChat wouldn't auto-connect me here... ah well. I'm here, aren't I? *idles*
[04:02] <Guest_548> fluvvel: okay i'll try that right now and get back to you. I'll be here.
[04:02] <fluvvell> Jordan_U: his dell cant get past the splash screen.
[04:02] <thefool_> Jordan_U: mainly because I do a lot of experimenting in interpreters and would like to be able to grep through logs and see how I did this or that
[04:03] <L3ttuc3> Devinion you can turn that off. its probably selected by default in the networks list under the freenode network. or you put it there that way.
[04:03] <thefool_> EADG_: thanks compiling it now
[04:03] <Jordan_U> Devinion, That can be turned off, just connect directly to irc.freenode.net and stop auto joining to "ubuntu servers"
[04:03] <fluvvell> Guest_548: Also how much ram have you got?
[04:04] <Devinion> 'k. I'll set that here in a bit
[04:04] <Devinion> Thanks
[04:04] <Guest_548> fluvvell: 512
[04:04] <pawan> how to cahnge wallpaper
[04:04] <Jordan_U> thefool_, Ahh, if it's terminal based things use 'script'
[04:04] <fluvvell> Guest_548: ok
[04:04] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> how do i get alsamixer?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, You shouldn't need to "get" it
[04:05] <tritium> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu: it's installed by default
[04:05] <thefool_> Jordan_U: does that work when you enter an interpreter, a text editor, switch shells etc? I didn't think so
[04:05] <Jordan_U> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, just run "alsamixer" in a terminal
[04:05] <Swab> Halo
[04:05] <dsnyders> alex_r, I had a look at your pastebin, and there's no accept policy in the forward table.  Not sure if that means anything.
[04:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, you mean alsamixergui?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> thefool_, Yes, sort of but not really, and sort of but not really :)
[04:06] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> idk im trying to get my mic working in ubuntu 7.10
[04:06] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> its not working
[04:06] <alex_r> dsnyders: The funny thing is, I've never touched iptables at all.  It worked until about a week ago
[04:06] <Guest_548> fluvvel: when i type nosplash in the grub command line i get an unrecognized command message, am i supposed to put there
[04:06] <scriptdevil> is there a way of of getting an already installed ubuntu back to bare minimum
[04:07] <scriptdevil> i dislike gnome and want my fluxbox back... i dislike too much of bloat!!!
[04:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, what's the problem exactly?
[04:07] <Swab> xchat
[04:07] <Jordan_U> Guest_548, It's not a grub command, it's a kernel parameter.
[04:07] <Jordan_U> !boot | Guest_548
[04:07] <ubotu> Guest_548: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:07] <Johnny_5> how does one get networking 2 work in vmware in ubuntu?
[04:07] <dsnyders> alex_r, It would be generous calling me a novice at ipables, but if it's anything like cisco access lists...
[04:07] <alex_r> I can't access *anything* until I flush them all and set default to accept.  no webpages, im, ping
[04:08] <nivanson> Hi, how do I share my internet connection on local network? I am connected via wireless.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Johnny_5, Add a virtual ethernet card
[04:08] <Johnny_5> k
[04:08] <alex_r> dsynders: All I know is what I read in the man page about how to flush the damned thing
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, look here - this is how I set up my iptables - might help
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28gateway%29
[04:08] <Jordan_U> nivanson, Firestarter makes that fairly easy
[04:08] <Swab> xchat-gnome
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> nivansion - same answer for you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28gateway%29
[04:08] <nivanson> thanks!
[04:08] <scriptdevil> hmm
[04:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, firestarter is the graphical version for iptables by the way
[04:09] <sokna> hi
[04:09] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: yeah, I installed that previously to mess around with connection sharing, but have since uninstalled
[04:09] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[04:09] <pawan> can we use kde wallpapers in gnome
[04:10] <Swab> xchat-gnome
[04:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, there's a detailed entry on setting up ip tables in the ubuntu wiki
[04:10] <solexious> where do i find my sources file to remove lins to the install cd?
[04:10] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line... any ideas whats goin on here
[04:10] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> why do i get this error when i test my mic? Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[04:10] <Swab> yo how do i use this thing eh?
[04:10] <speeddemon8803> pawan, sure
[04:10] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: Your link would probably be helpful if I were trying to do that again, but I just want to access the internet in general
[04:10] <pawan> how
[04:10] <speeddemon8803> its just a picture, so nothing will mess up
[04:10] <xedbleh> Is there any ubuntu channel dedicated to programming here?
[04:10] <Flannel> solexious: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <solexious> ty
[04:10] <DiceyDays> Can someone check something for me? Is www.opera.com down? Also www.userscripts.org.
[04:11] <Flannel> xedbleh: What sort of programming?
[04:11] <dsnyders> alex_r, the instructions Jewfro-Macabbi  pointed to looked similar to what I did long ago.
[04:11] <xopey> DiceyDays: no
[04:11] <fitztrev> Is it possible to have a file/folder open with only a single click?
[04:11] <xopey> DiceyDays: they're both up
[04:11] <xedbleh> DiceyDays: both sites are working
[04:11] <DiceyDays> weird. I can't access them
[04:11] <fluvvell> Guest_548: no, you need to interrupt the grub boot sequence and press e for edit, edit the boot line and add nosplash at the end of the line.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> xedbleh, 'programming' isn't really an Ubuntu specific topic, why would you want one ( hones question )
[04:12] <xopey> anyone have a resolution for sun-java6-plugin hanging in firefox?
[04:12] <xedbleh> oh I'm just looking for some help with bash related programming
[04:12] <ePax> pawalls: Download picture you want to use as desktop pic then double klick on it to open it... go to image and klick on set as deskotp background... or just rightclick mouse on desktop and klick on deskop wallpeper and pick one
[04:12] <fluvvell> Guest_548: by interrupt, I mean press escape before it auotboots.
[04:12] <Jordan_U> xedbleh, ##bash
[04:12] <pawan> how
[04:12] <xopey> eventually will load, but takes forever
[04:12] <DiceyDays> Have a guess why I can't connect?
[04:12] <fluvvell> :ur, auto boots.
[04:12] <ePax> sory wrong nick
[04:12] <pawan> what options to select to change wallpaper
[04:12] <ePax> pawan: : Download picture you want to use as desktop pic then double klick on it to open it... go to image and klick on set as deskotp background... or just rightclick mouse on desktop and klick on deskop wallpeper and pick one
[04:13] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: Hmm, before I go digging through that is there a disadvantage to just flushing everything?
[04:13] <EADG> DiceyDays: can you ping this 193.69.116.18?
[04:13] <alex_r> fitztrev: What file manager?  nautilus? konquereor? dolphin?
[04:13] <pawan> when i right click on desktop no menu appears
[04:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, I'm no expert - but as I understand it iptables flushes every reboot without a script/cron job anyway
[04:14] <bruce_> hello! does any one know of any program i can use to convert a chm file to jpeg???
[04:14] <fitztrev> alex_r: Nautilus and I just found the answer here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575233  thanks anyway!
[04:14] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: maybe you missed my pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m4b0442b4  <-- that's the default upon boot, and it doesn't allow me to connect to anything
[04:14] <ePax> pawan: Then to the other way i told you.
[04:15] <DiceyDays> EADG: No
[04:15] <sathehand> Anyone active in here?
[04:15] <DiceyDays> EADG: Destination Port Unreachable is the error I get
[04:15] <bruce_> hello! does any one know of any program i can use to convert a chm file to jpeg???
[04:15] <tritium> !repeat | bruce_
[04:15] <ubotu> bruce_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:15] <bruce_> hmmmm..
[04:16] <alex_r> linchapulin: This looks complicated, but it's the best I could find: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10018#c16
[04:16] <sathehand> I suppose my activity question has been essentially answered.
[04:16] <bruce_> active = no
[04:16] <EADG> DiceyDays: I takeit that you can't ping either 193.69.116.18 or www.opera.com from a diffrent machine that your using  now?... on irc?
[04:16] <bruce_> = i think..
[04:17] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, that's over my head - I followed instructions to get mine to work - I know priority of rules is paramount
[04:17] <DiceyDays> EADG: Nope
[04:17] <DiceyDays> EADG: Should I restart my router?
[04:17] <Guest_548> Fluvvel: adding nosplash only caused it to freeze where it used to keep scrolling and numbers were increasing ( when i press alt f1 at progress bar)
[04:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, as is whatever rule is first takes priority over all following rules
[04:18] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - yeah, that much I figured out.  I just don't know what rule to add for normal operations
[04:18] <EADG> DiceyDays: Naw, just ask for a new ip addy. sudo dhclient "nic name"    eth1 for ex.
[04:18] <sathehand> Is it possible to resize the hard drive partition that contains Xubuntu?
[04:18] <alex_r> Thanks anyway, though.  I'm just going to try iptables-save after flushing everything
[04:19] <singlesun> does anyone know of a way to make just the terminal window semi transparent? so that you can see things underneath it?
[04:19] <pawan> hi
[04:19] <alex_r> singlesun: which terminal?
[04:19] <cgssa> hello
[04:19] <alex_r> singlesun: xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal?
[04:19] <jesica> anybody can say me why ubuntu-es doesnt work typing /join ubuntu-es
[04:19] <singlesun> alex_r, the main terminal window... bash. for Gnome
[04:19] <Guest_548> fluvvel: noapci does the same thing as nosplash
[04:19] <Pici> jesica: /j #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, well - for example to allow all web traffic: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[04:19] <cgssa> someone said that they turned my computer intoo a bomb is that possible?
[04:19] <jesica> pici thank you
[04:19] <cgssa> hello
[04:20] <cgssa> someone said that they turned my computer intoo a bomb is that possible?
[04:20] <cgssa> wat do i do to remove ir?
[04:20] <cgssa> it
[04:20] <alex_r> cgssa: not unless you saw them with a barrel of dynomite
[04:20] <sathehand> cgssa: I don't see how they could do such a thing.
[04:20] <cgssa> uh they said they could
[04:20] <singlesun> anyone have any thoughts on how to make the Gnome terminal window semi transparent?
[04:20] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: ok, I'll try that.  but what about icp?  that only seems to be tcp
[04:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, try adding this to the top of your iptables: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -i lo -j ACCEPT
[04:20] <cgssa> and they
[04:20] <jrib> cgssa: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:21] <j_humphrey> can I install ubuntu from a live usb instead of a live cd?
[04:21] <DiceyDays> EADG: "renewal in 42208 seconds" Thats good right?
[04:21] <alex_r> wtf am I talking about?  what is icp anyway?? lol, ignore me
[04:21] <jrib> !install > j_humphrey (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:21] <EADG> DiceyDays: Aye
[04:21] <cgssa> is ubuntu bomb proof?
[04:21] <Flannel> j_humphrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> yes
[04:21] <tritium> cgssa: please stop your nonsense
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> cgssa it is
[04:21] <j_humphrey> !install
[04:21] <jrib> cgssa: stop
[04:21] <EADG> DiceyDays: ping something :)
[04:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:21] <alex_r> go troll somewhere else
[04:21] <cgssa> im not joking go to #uncyclopedia they all ther
[04:21] <jrib> j_humphrey: I am pretty sure that mentions how to install from usb
[04:22] <tritium> cgssa: last warning
[04:22] <j_humphrey> thank you jrib
[04:22] <DiceyDays> EADG: Still getting the port unreachable. I guess it will work after all those seconds are up?
[04:22] <alex_r> jrib: are you the only ircop out of 1156 users?
[04:22] <adelie43> hmm... ok, I got my wireless card driver working... I think. the blue light comes on now... but the network manager still does not give me the option to search for wireless networks. help please :(
[04:22] <speeddemon8803> Cgssa.....your computer comes preconfigured with a firewall,...nevermind nobody minds telling people shut up but explaining about firewalls isnt cool? lol
[04:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, I'm just looking through the detailed wiki at possible problems - what opens what and what needs to be first.
[04:22] <tritium> alex_r: no, he's not
[04:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28ip%29%7C%28tables%29
[04:22] <jrib> alex_r: no, there are many
[04:23] <j_humphrey> does 7.10 come with grub?
[04:23] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: don't spend any more time on it, though I appreciate it
[04:23] <singlesun> is there anyway to make the Gnome terminal window semitransparent?
[04:23] <phuzion> j_humphrey, yes
[04:23] <Kalir> Hey, did someone named fire23 come in here?
[04:23] <enfo> i think so
[04:23] <EADG> DiceyDays: Hehe, no... that would be awhile to wait. The secs just mean the ip lisence will be renewed after that time.
[04:23] <j_humphrey> thanks phuzion
[04:23] <Kalir> I apologize for his idiocy.
[04:23] <cgssa> ya
[04:23] <cgssa> Kalir
[04:23] <alex_r> must be chatZilla then
[04:23] <Kalir> I'm playing a bit of a game with him.
[04:23] <Jordan_U> singlesun, Yes, for true transparency you need to be using a composite manager though
[04:23] <cgssa> i came back
[04:23] <enfo> to make it semitransparent install compiz
[04:23] <tritium> Kalir: he's the same as cgssa
[04:23] <crdlb> singlesun: the whole window or the background?
[04:23] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, that's okay - I've been giving myself an education in networking lately trying to get all my stuff working - so I'm interested.
[04:23] <EADG> DiceyDays: As for the port not being reachable... not sure.
[04:24] <jack-desktop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4233478&postcount=10 who knows what language that is, and understands it?
[04:24] <cgssa> SEE HE DID PUT A BOMB
[04:24] <Kalir> Huh.
[04:24] <adelie43> anyone know how to make the network manager search for wireless networks?
[04:24] <jack-desktop> programming language*
[04:24] <Kalir> Anyway, I apologize for this.
[04:24] <singlesun> Jordan_U, crdlb, i just need it slightly transparent so i can read the stuff i have typed underneath it from time to tiem
[04:24] <Kalir> He's been bugging us at #uncyclopedia all day, and I'm just making the best of it.
[04:24] <crdlb> singlesun: are you using compiz?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, It's bash
[04:24] <sathehand> Not to push my question too much, but I would like to know if no one is answering because they don't know or if it isn't being answered because it is too busy in here...
[04:24] <speeddemon8803> please quit booting people for vanity reasons, its retarded, i was trying to tell cg about a firewall but before i could hit enter you threw em out for being a new user?
[04:24] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - I've learned a lot, but I want to rip somebody's throat out right now.  ****ing university wifi is locked down with WPA2-Enterprise, TTLS, Dynamic-WEP,2nd stage PAP...
[04:25] <Kalir> Anyway, thanks for understanding.
[04:25] <singlesun> crdlb, compiz decided to die on me today... lol... was in here earlier.... my libs are corrupted...
[04:25] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, do you understand it and can write/use it?
[04:25] <gnurph69> not to start a war or anything...but what are some of the better NNTP clients out there?  Evolution won't work for me.
[04:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, my apologies - and I thought my evdo modem was challenging...
[04:25] <csatlose> hey guys, it's getting late, and I can't find what I'm looking for on google.  Anyone have any suggestions for original gutsy xorg.conf?
[04:25] <adelie43> sathehand: I can say I didn't even see your question
[04:25] <DiceyDays> EADG: Is there anything else I can do?
[04:25] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: It's hard enough to get it to work with windows, and that's officially supported.  infinitely harder to get it to work with network-manager, esp. with its bugs
[04:25] <crdlb> singlesun: well you need compiz, so join #compiz-fusion and I'll try to help
[04:25] <singlesun> crdlb, i will be reinstalling shortly but was hoping there was some other way to setup transparency while i see if i can fix this
[04:26] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, Glancing over it it seems simple enough, I have to leave soon though
[04:26] <sathehand> Adelie43, would it be okay if I re-post?
[04:26] <tritium> csatlose: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg automatically saves a backup copy in /etc/X11.  Is that what you used?
[04:26] <alex_r> singlesun: you can't get real transparency without compiz (or kwin in kde4).  you can get "fake" transparency, but it only shows the desktop
[04:26] <sathehand> Be right back.
[04:26] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, It won't work with XGL BTW
[04:26] <csatlose> tritium: I'm on a macbook and I changed xorg.conf to do tapping, but I don't like it.
[04:26] <adelie43> sathehand: I know I don't mind
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:27] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, why not?
[04:27] <Jordan_U> singlesun, Or xcompmgr
[04:27] <tritium> csatlose: yes, but how did you change it?  Manually?
[04:27] <enfo> that will regenerate a default xorg.conf
[04:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, set up a crappy win box with a crossover cable :)
[04:27] <tritium> enfo: no, it won't.  No need to repeat, either.
[04:27] <speeddemon8803> !repeat
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:27] <enfo> sorry i mis-hit the enter
[04:27] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, The first line "export DISPLAY=:0" would need to be "export DISPLAY=:1" I think, but I havn't used XGL in a while
[04:27] <csatlose> tritium: I changed it manually, backed it up, then messed up the original backup.
[04:28] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - my win box is win2k, and it can't connect to the WiFi since the program is xp+.  Hell, to have it connected I have to share the laptop connection wifi>wired!
[04:28] <tritium> csatlose: oh, that's unfortunate.
[04:28] <csatlose> enfo: thanks, I'll try that
[04:28] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, this is for compiz fusion, does that include XGL?
[04:28] <tritium> csatlose: that won't restore the original.  It'll guide you through a re-configure.
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, sounds truly evil. Maybe consider paid service? lol actually evdo is pretty cheap now.
[04:29] <csatlose> tritium: THat's fine, I can deal with resolutions.
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, and dsl too
[04:29] <tritium> csatlose: good deal, then
[04:29] <csatlose> tritium: enfo: thanks guys.
[04:29] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: college dorm room, I have no choice
[04:29] <enfo> i think it's always a good idea to back that file up somewhere else
[04:29] <enfo> or have multiple copies of the original xorg.conf file
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, most cell providers can give you service for about 30.00 bucks a month now - through your cell.
[04:30] <gnurph69> i need a gnome-based NNTP reader and evolution won't work.  Any suggestions?
[04:30] <nemilar> I paste copies of my xorg.conf file up around my town
[04:30] <sathehand> Adelie43, it looks like my question was answered in the Xubuntu channel without me noticing it. Although the answer left me with additional questions.
[04:30] <nemilar> so I always know it's available
[04:30] <tritium> gnurph69: what do you mean won't work?  It doesn't suit your taste?
[04:30] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: unless I rent an apartment off-campus, and get a mile-long ethernet cable.... which would probably be easier if not cheaper.     $30/mo is high for a college student :P  and my phone doesn't support anyway
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, Compiz Fusion can be used with XGL but XGL is not installed by default.
[04:30] <nemilar> gnurph69: Pan is pretty popular
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, I have to go now :(
[04:30] <csatlose> enfo: thanks, I'm already reconfiguring.  will definitely save on an external drive too.
[04:30] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, ok, thanks for the help
[04:30] <gnurph69> tritium:  the login wants to append the FQDN of the news server, and that's not the correct userID...and I can't get it to change.  Ergo, no work.
[04:31] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, yeah that's true. I remember the bills...
[04:31] <gnurph69> nemilar:  didn't see pan in synaptic.  can you point the way?
[04:31] <tritium> gnurph69: oh, okay.  It works in general, but not for your case...
[04:31] <gnurph69> tritium:  I have to assume so.  :)
[04:31]  * scorphus got a blackout
[04:31] <tritium> gnurph69: it does :)
[04:32] <nemilar> gnurph69: I donno, the name of the package is just pan
[04:33] <Darkmystere> simple queswtion how would i do more then 1 server in 1 X-Chat window?
[04:33] <evan_> im having trouble getting extended ascii characters working
[04:33] <alex_r> gnurph39, nemilar: do you mean perhaps libetpan11?
[04:33] <gnurph69> tritium, nemilar:  ty.  i think i got it
[04:33] <coach> hey whats up
[04:33] <y> I'm looking for a theory... I've got LDAP working on a server and I can connect to it on client, but I can't get anything out of search results
[04:34] <avis> Darkmystere, if you look at the xchat selection you can go to new then server tab
[04:34] <Darkmystere> I dont have a X-chat thing on this version of x-chat..
[04:34] <alex_r> ugh, LDAP.  I'm waiting for Hardy before touching that one >_<
[04:35] <goldbond> where should i save shell scripts?
[04:35] <enfo> IRC->connection->server?
[04:35] <phuzion> I have flashplugin-nonfree installed, yet firefox says I need to install flash to play videos on youtube, how do I fix this?
[04:35] <y> alex_r -- yep. I don't think its too bad. takes some reading, that's for sure. =)
[04:36] <alex_r> y: It's not my ldap server :(
[04:36] <jrib> !flash > phuzion (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:37] <evan_> how do I get extended ascii working
[04:37] <JohnLurner> How do I share a file using Deluge ?
[04:37] <j_humphrey> whats a good, free iso burner for windows?
[04:37] <bruenig> !bittorrent | JohnLurner
[04:37] <ubotu> JohnLurner: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[04:37] <JohnLurner> when I try it always asks for the directory to save to and then nothing happens
[04:38] <alex_r> j_humphrey: I think Alcohol120% or something similar to that name is good
[04:38] <JohnLurner> ok, how do I seed a file in any program ?
[04:39] <JohnLurner> Nero will burn an ISO image
[04:39] <phuzion> jrib, didn't work
[04:39] <JohnLurner> and there are a ton of demo versions that will work well
[04:39] <evan_> it can't be that hard of an issue to get ascii extended characters in gnome-terminal
[04:39] <phuzion> even uninistalled and reinstalled, still didn't work
[04:39] <norv> most will burn an ISO properly, few will grab one
[04:40] <keith-> hey anyone know the default shortcut key for high contrast in compiz?
[04:40] <JohnLurner> WinIso will make ISO images
[04:40] <jrib> phuzion: what exactly did you do that did not work?
[04:40] <phuzion> jrib, installed flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get
[04:40] <jrib> phuzion: did you read all of what ubotu said?
[04:40] <phuzion> and used the firefox plugin finder service after uninstalling
[04:40] <norv> JohnLurner: I have not seen anything that beats dd_rescue for making iso images
[04:40] <jrib> !flash | phuzion
[04:40] <ubotu> phuzion: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[04:40] <phuzion> jrib,yes
[04:41] <jrib> phuzion: "The Flash  package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[04:41] <norv> JohnLurner: there may be one, because it's in high demand in Windows with all the applications which just love to require discs to run
[04:41] <phuzion> Yes, I read that
[04:41] <jrib> phuzion: ok, did you do what is suggested there?
[04:42] <JohnLurner> does anyone know how to seed a file in deluge ?
[04:42] <galacticone> Hey Everyone no matter what I do I cannot connect to my wireless internet I dont know how to use this WPA Supplicant and the network manager isnt doing a damm thing, its connecting to other sources while I took it off of roaming mode
[04:42] <norv> can one just repair the md5 to install the flash package? last I tried that was the error
[04:42]  * CITguy says Goodnight
[04:42] <phuzion> jrib, reading it now
[04:42] <galacticone> how do you connect to a wpa enabled network?
[04:43] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> you can try doing it manually
[04:43] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> in terminal
[04:43] <tkxue> how do i figure out what my dns server is?
[04:43] <galacticone> how so I tried to edit the .conf and it was blank
[04:44] <tritium> tkxue: they're listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:44] <tkxue> i'm running ubuntu linux ... what comamnd do I type or what file tdo I look at to find out what my current dns servers are?
[04:44] <ePax> What is playstation emulator?
[04:44] <tkxue> got it; thanks
[04:44] <czr> tkxue, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:45] <galacticone> [eW]Dark|ubuntu what files do i edit?
[04:46] <galacticone> anyone know what files i edit for the wpa wireless connection/
[04:46] <galacticone> ?
[04:46] <hotmonkeyluv> what is a 'fun' programming language that you could recommend?
[04:46] <jomasecu> Hi.. having a problem with my installation. I get "1. FD 1.44MB System Type-(06)" and then nothing happens.
[04:46] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: python
[04:46] <ubuntuuserinneed> Excuse me, can anyone  tell me what is thiss mount point thing?
[04:46] <tritium> galacticone: have you read the wiki pages on wireless?
[04:46] <russ> czr just eavesdropping, but I tried that and the response I got was "nameserver  192.168.1.1" - does that mean my router is actually hosting a dns service?
[04:46] <galacticone> tritium I have and found them useless
[04:46] <alex_r> russ: probably
[04:47] <czr> russ, if your router is 192.168.1.1, then yes.
[04:47] <ubuntuuserinneed> I'm currently trying to install ubuntu and I selected to manually edit the partition.
[04:47] <czr> russ, although it might just be a caching dns service, not a full blown DNS server like BIND for example.
[04:47] <galacticone> tritium the files it says to edit come up as blanks for me
[04:47] <russ> that's cool.
[04:47] <tritium> galacticone: which file is blank?  Which URL are you trying to follow?
[04:47] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: and why would you say that? is it a higher level one, does it have nice syntax, what?
[04:47] <galacticone> tritium the god damm ubuntu wifi docs wpa page
[04:47] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: yes to both
[04:48] <tritium> galacticone: calm down, and please don't use foul language here
[04:48] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I see
[04:48] <phuzion> jrib, so just install the .deb from http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466 ?
[04:48] <galacticone> tritium Im terribly frustrated ubuntu has alot of problems
[04:48] <jrib> phuzion: yes, that is one way
[04:48] <phuzion> Alright, cool
[04:49] <tritium> galacticone: you may be frustrated, but keep the channel family-friendly please
[04:49] <tritium> galacticone: show me where you're having trouble.  Give me the URL, and the path to the file you're trying to edit.
[04:49] <galacticone> tritium https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[04:50] <ubuntuuserinneed> anyone?
[04:50] <galacticone> tritium /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:50] <novato_br> how can I get record my desktop with mencoder?
[04:50] <Creedence> hi all
[04:51] <jomasecu> My computer gets stuck at the very beginning of the install. It says "1. FD 1.44MB System Type-(06)" and then nothing. I don't have a floppy drive.
[04:51] <Creedence> quick q, does anyone know if there is a tool to sync offline files for ubuntu from a samba share? kinda like windows?
[04:51] <tritium> galacticone: yes, I see there is an inconsistency with the wiki page and gutsy.  Have you tried first to use Network Manager to setup wpa?  It should "just work."
[04:51] <galacticone> tritium it didnt just work at all
[04:52] <galacticone> tritium it connected to another wireless network
[04:52] <novato_br> how can I get to record my desktop with mencoder?
[04:52] <galacticone> tritium the gnome netowkr manager is one of the worst programs ive seen, it reminds me alot of windows
[04:52] <tritium> galacticone: so, NM is working.  That's a good start.
[04:53] <tritium> galacticone: please just double-check that wpasupplicant is installed.
[04:53] <ubuntuuserinneed> guys, they say that I should mount a partition on /, does this refer to the partition I want ubuntu to be installed on?
[04:53] <czr> Creedence, rsync if you like command line
[04:53] <galacticone> tritium how do i do that?
[04:53] <tritium> galacticone: apt-cache policy wpasupplicant will list the installed version (if any)
[04:53] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Yes
[04:54] <ubuntuuserinneed> thanks spdf
[04:54] <Creedence> czer323, that's cool, but is there a tool to automate it? I am looking to have files synced with my home server on my laptop
[04:54] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: / is the root file system
[04:54] <evan_> How do I get ascii extended characters to show up in gnome-terminal???????
[04:54] <galacticone> tritium its installed
[04:54] <czr> Creedence, you can automate anything command line driven with a script
[04:55] <Creedence> czr, true, but I am not quite at that level at the command line yet
[04:55] <Creedence> czr, u know of anything GUI based?
[04:55] <tritium> galacticone: okay, good.  So, when you attempt to connect, you choose your SSID?  Do you know that the router is configured properly?  (Perhaps another machine uses wpa with it successfully?)
[04:55] <ubuntuuserinneed> guys, about the bootloader how do I ascertain that it's the correct device to install on?
[04:55] <galacticone> tritium my windows machine connects to it great along with my mac
[04:55] <czr> Creedence, I don't use GUI for that stuff, so no. But if you do 'apt-cache search synchronize', it should give you a list of packages that might be more of the kind that you're looking for
[04:56] <evan_> I need ascii characters for working in the terminal
[04:56] <evan_> -__-
[04:56] <Creedence> czr, cool
[04:56] <galacticone> tritium the windows machine is my dual boot windows and ubuntu
[04:56] <Creedence> czr, thanks for your help! much appreciated
[04:56] <tritium> galacticone: good.  So what happens when you setup NM to connect to it?
[04:56] <evan_> you know this is dumb lol works perfectly fine in windows
[04:56] <czr> Creedence, once you find a package that looks promising, use apt-cache show <packagename> to display more information about it
[04:56] <galacticone> tritium it just doesnt work or stalls for a long period of time
[04:56] <czr> Creedence, or you the graphical package manager, different front end, same database :-)
[04:56] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Are you installing to your primary HD?
[04:56] <czr> you=use even.
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: thats exactly it, I'm not sure if this is the primary HD.
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: have you looked at logs in /var/log/?  /var/log/daemon.log is a good start
[04:57] <galacticone> tritium basically its incredibly buggy
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> I mean, in the BIOS I set it to load this one first, and on the mobo its the first sata port
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: it works well for many people.
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> but it shows up as SCSI3 on ubuntu
[04:57] <galacticone> tritium i wouldnt know what anything in those logs means
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> and sdb
[04:57] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: If its set to load that one first, then its the primary, so that should be where grub is install
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: there may be some other underlying issue here in your case.
[04:58] <scorphus> hello again. I get no window borders and titles, nor window list on the panel, look: http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/1/30/f_ubuntugutsym_42e884a.png How do I fix this?
[04:58] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: would that be hd0? because I tried earlier and its not working...
[04:58] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Do you have another hd in there?
[04:58] <ubuntuuserinneed> I have 3 HDDs on this pc
[04:58] <galacticone> tritium my log is empty
[04:58] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Do you also boot windows?
[04:59] <tritium> galacticone: which wireless chipset?
[04:59] <ubuntuuserinneed> not for now, going to soon though.
[04:59] <xMS_user> THANK YOU ALL FOR SAVING MY LIFE! GO UBUNTU!
[04:59] <galacticone> tritium im using ndiswrapper for a ralink rt2570
[04:59] <czer323> weird, someone else with a similar name to me.
[04:59] <mazev> scorphus, are you using beryl or compiz?
[04:59] <scorphus> mazev: no one of these
[04:59] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: Is there much demand for python coders?
[05:00] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: I don't know.
[05:00] <y> I'm looking for a theory... I've got LDAP working on a server and I can connect to it on client, but I'm not getting consistent ldapsearch results from client/server
[05:00] <jrib> scorphus: in "Appearance" preferences, you have "None" selected for effects?
[05:00] <scorphus> mazev: there are some packages missing, when I do metacity --raplace it works
[05:00] <czr> czer323, happens quite often to me too :-)
[05:00] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: in what context?  ubuntu?  yes.  open source?  Job market?
[05:00] <scorphus> jrib: yes
[05:00] <j3s3r> Quick question, I am looking for a search engine that uses live people to search for u
[05:01] <j3s3r> I know it exists any idea what the site is?
[05:01] <jrib> !offtopic | j3s3r
[05:01] <ubotu> j3s3r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:01] <czr> hotmonkeyluv, a lot of the more interesting environments (science/research) use python a lot
[05:01] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I'm just looking for a lingo that'll be fun to learn, easy to use, powerful, and in demand.
[05:01] <klan-chuki-dialo> hola alguien me puede decir como uso mi escaner
[05:01] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I like science
[05:01] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: hello?
[05:01] <czr> hotmonkeyluv, although you should probably ask the question on #python instead
[05:01] <tritium> !es | klan-chuki-dialo
[05:01] <ubotu> klan-chuki-dialo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:02] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: don't we all?
[05:02] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: Is there a good program for writing code in? I've used gedit once, seemed ok for bash scritps
[05:02] <klan-chuki-dialo> ok
[05:02] <galacticone> tritium is there anything else I can do??
[05:02] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: I used to use windows, I encountered some problems that I cannot ascertain, so I'm trying to use ubuntu to see if the problems occur here too, and perhaps find if there are diagnostic tools for linux that can see what the problem is
[05:02] <galacticone> tritium will wireless ever work for my laptop?
[05:02] <scorphus> mazev, jrib: this is a gutsy server, and I needed to install graphical environment, so I just did "aptitude install gdm" and got this. Looks like there is some crucial package missing
[05:03] <tritium> galacticone: you've already shown that it works (with another wireless network)
[05:03] <lost_in_space> wireless works on my laptop
[05:03] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: yes, there are several IDEs available.
[05:03] <soldats> scorphus, a graphcal enviroment is the X windows enviroment
[05:03] <evan_> k little  help here..
[05:03] <galacticone> tritium well it is right now
[05:03] <czr> scorphus, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop = full graphical environment
[05:03] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Just install grub to whichever you're booting first (in this case, the hd you installed to)... if its sdb, then its like (1,0)
[05:03] <scorphus> soldats: right, you know what I mean
[05:04] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: its likely*
[05:04] <galacticone> tritium im speaking to you with it
[05:04] <czr> scorphus, gdm is just the graphical login/display manager.
[05:04] <soldats> scorphus, look at what czr wrote you
[05:04] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: thanks for the tips, I'll ask in #python about the ide
[05:04] <scorphus> czr: I don't need all of those extra 400+ packages, do I?
[05:04] <Jangari> i have to search an entire server for a bunch of wav files all with "SDM" in their name, what's the syntax for ls to do that?
[05:04] <tritium> galacticone: so, it definitely works.  wireless chipsets that require ndiswrapper are sometimes problematic
[05:04] <czr> scorphus, if you're lazy, yes. if not, it's going to be painful :-)
[05:04] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: good luck
[05:05] <scorphus> czr: I don't feel like I'm lazy
[05:05] <scorphus> :)
[05:05] <soldats> Jangari, locate *SDM*.wav
[05:05] <czr> scorphus, you could try xubuntu-desktop instead
[05:05] <mazev> scorphus, you probably don't need all those packages but it will save you time
[05:05] <scorphus> just need some tips...
[05:05] <ubuntuuserinneed> (1,0) ?
[05:05] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: thanks!
[05:05] <Jangari> soldats: can't I do it with ls -R?
[05:05] <mazev> scorphus, most servers don't use gui
[05:05] <galacticone> tritium Im looking at my logs and its showing Im not putting in the right wireless key
[05:06] <soldats> Jangari, ls -R list all dirs recursivvely
[05:06] <tritium> galacticone: ah, hopefully it's something simple like that!
[05:06] <galacticone> tritium my wireless key is case sensitive how can I be sure Im adding it correctly?
[05:06] <ubuntuuserinneed> partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as ext3 partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as swap <--- so what do I type into the advanced window?
[05:06] <Jangari> or can't you specify substrings with ls?
[05:06] <czr> Jangari, you might want to use 'find' instead. ls is not meant to search
[05:06] <scorphus> mazev: yeah, correct. this was installed by xen-tools, and I imagine it uses a server distro. But I need gui to test my software (phpeclipse) on ubuntu, as many users report problems with it
[05:06] <soldats> Jangari, not sure i use ls for basic stuff the right way to do it is with the locate command
[05:06] <kapace> hello i can't see my ubuntu box's hostname, but ip works ok..
[05:06] <tritium> galacticone: NM lets you view the key you enter.  There's a little radio button or check box for that.
[05:06] <Jangari> okay, ta
[05:07] <ubuntuuserinneed> I'm just not sure what device I should fill in.
[05:07] <galacticone> ok thanks
[05:07] <ubuntuuserinneed> I tried hd3 earlier(since scsi3) and I got a fatal error
[05:07] <klan-chuki-dialo> como entro a ubuntu es
[05:07] <tritium> klan-chuki-dialo: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:07] <klan-chuki-dialo> graxs
[05:07] <cvd> hey there, any know Why i when i logon in ubuntu i dont have internet?, but after doing this 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0' then i have internet
[05:08] <Jangari> hmm, i'm just getting the same "no file or directory" error
[05:08] <tritium> cvd: you evidently have it configured in /etc/network/interfaces, but don't have it listed as "auto"
[05:08] <czr> Jangari, what are you trying to do?
[05:09] <tritium> cvd: if you completely commented it out in /etc/network/interfaces, Network Manager should take care of it manually for you
[05:09] <Jangari> search an entire server, 4TB odd, for a coupld of .wav files that begin with SDM, czr
[05:09] <Jangari> viw ssh
[05:09] <Jangari> via*
[05:09] <czr> Jangari, have you external mounts on the server? (NFS, CIFS, etc?)
[05:09] <Jangari> no, tunneling in
[05:09] <czr> if not, find / -iname "sdm*wav"
[05:10] <czr> and add 2> /dev/null to the end of that
[05:10] <czr> since you're not interested in error messages
[05:10] <cvd> i dont know what you are talking about
[05:10] <czr> if you have a lot of file, it will take a long time JanC
[05:10] <czr> sorry, Jangari.
[05:10] <Jangari> meh, it's a powerful server, and it's only harvesting filenames, surely
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, that command will cause each directory contents to be loaded from the disk(s)
[05:11] <Jangari> "find /", can I begin it at a particular point? say "find /r0/d0/"?
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, and directory contents are scattered around the disk area(s), so the disk will need to seek a lot -> takes long time.
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, yes.
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, it
[05:11] <tritium> cvd: what part do you need more explanation for?
[05:11] <czr> it's a very powerful tool.
[05:12] <cvd> so how to make ubuntu do this automaticaly when i logon 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[05:12] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu provide no DEB program package for JaLingo? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jalingo)
[05:12] <tritium> cvd: I told you already
[05:12] <czr> bullgard4, does debian provide a deb-package for it?
[05:13] <cvd> let me check
[05:13] <bullgard4> czr: Is that all that you can contribute to answer my question?
[05:13] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: hrm, it's saying i need to be identified to enter #python. what's that mean?
[05:13] <soldats> hotmonkeyluv, register you nick
[05:13] <czr> bullgard4, no.
[05:13] <gupteshwar> hello all
[05:13] <YeTr2> bullgard4: because there are hundreds of other softwares that other people one, and it's majority and popularity rule for which packages ubuntu decides to include in it's repos.
[05:13] <Jangari> alright, " find /r0/d0/ *SDM*.wav" returned everything on the server
[05:13] <Jangari> everything...
[05:13] <hotmonkeyluv> soldats: with /msg nickserv?
[05:13] <me> hello? Can anyone help me?
[05:13] <ubuntuuserinneed> so (hd1,0) ?
[05:13] <czr> Jangari, find /r0/d0 -iname "sdm*wav"
[05:14] <dreamnid> !ask | me
[05:14] <ubotu> me: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:14] <hotmonkeyluv> me is beyond help
[05:14] <Jangari> iname, eh?
[05:14] <tritium> !register | hotmonkeyluv
[05:14] <ubotu> hotmonkeyluv: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:14] <cvd> this is what i have: auto lo
[05:14] <czr> Jangari, yes. that's a find "predicate" (search term).
[05:14] <cvd> iface lo inet loopback
[05:14] <cvd> iface ppp0 inet ppp
[05:14] <cvd> provider ppp0
[05:14] <cvd> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:14] <cvd> auto e
[05:14] <hotmonkeyluv> ohhhhhh
[05:14] <FloodBot1> cvd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <Jangari> bon
[05:14] <soldats> hotmonkeyluv, /msg nickserv register <password> <emailaddr>
[05:14] <YeTr2> bullgard4: you are more than welcome to compile your own package for your own personal use using an application called checkinstall
[05:14] <Jangari> so what does 'find' do without that iname option? search for everything?
[05:14] <tritium> cvd: don't paste here
[05:14] <gupteshwar> I was  using Fiesty and now upgraded my desktop to gutsy from that day i am facing problem of high cpu usage due to kacpid
[05:14] <me> hey, I want to install ubuntu but my pc keep entering sleep mode =/
[05:14] <cvd> its not to much
[05:15] <tritium> cvd: yes, it is
[05:15] <Jangari> me, are you on a liveCD?
[05:15] <gupteshwar> I am not getting whats a problem?
[05:15] <cvd> so i paste one line at time
[05:15] <czr> Jangari, it interprets all parameters as the directory names where to start search from
[05:15] <UnWorthy> so who has a few minutes and wouldn't mind answering a couple of questions about a dual boot?
[05:15] <tritium> cvd: no, you won't
[05:15] <czr> Jangari, and without any predicates (search terms) it will display names of everything it finds from those directories
[05:15] <Flannel> !ask | UnWorthy
[05:15] <cvd> so its already done.. its say auto
[05:15] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:16] <me> only my monitor enters sleep mode. My pc keep doing noises
[05:16] <UnWorthy> ty
[05:16] <Jangari> okay czr, so what i said earlier " find /r0/d0/ *SDM*.wav", will search for everything underneath /r0/d0, and then anything under "*SDM*.wav"?
[05:16] <tritium> cvd: why do you have it listed at all?  Try commenting out all lines associated with eth0, and let Network Manager handle it for you.
[05:16] <me> i downloaded the cd from de ubuntu site
[05:16] <UnWorthy> !ask how to get ubuntu to run from ntldr or XP to run from grub
[05:16] <me> 7.10 for amd 64
[05:16] <czr> Jangari, yes, assuming the shell can find any names that fill that pattern. if the shell cannot, it will pass the parameter directly to find, which will think it's a dir name where to search from.
[05:16] <cvd> i dont now its ubuntu i dont do anything
[05:16] <dreamnid> lol, unworthy
[05:16] <Flannel> UnWorthy: When you install Ubuntu (and GRUB with it) you'll have an entry for XP
[05:17] <UnWorthy> really?
[05:17] <UnWorthy> entry?
[05:17] <czr> Jangari, in unix, it is the command shell that expands *? and other characters, before the program that you're starting even sees them.
[05:17] <UnWorthy> whats this you speak of?
[05:17] <Jangari> i.e., i ask it to search for everything inside the directory /r0/d0, which comprises about 3TB of space, that was silly of me'
[05:17] <Flannel> UnWorthy: A selection at your GRUB menu.  So you can boot to XP or Ubuntu
[05:17] <tritium> cvd: System -> Administration -> Network, and make sure the connection has roaming mode enabled
[05:17] <hotmonkeyluv> yay! i'm now registered! I feel complete, my life now has meaning!!!
[05:17] <czr> Jangari, if you want a list of everything, find /r0/d0 is your friend ;-)
[05:17] <UnWorthy> well see when I installed ubuntu it killed my mbr
[05:17] <cvd> its i check roaming the connection dont work
[05:17] <JohnRobert> where can I find a list of different ubuntus like kubuntu, xubuntu etc..?
[05:18] <Jangari> ha
[05:18] <dreamnid> UnWorthy, if you installed xp first, then Ubuntu next, there will automatically be an option to boot XP from grub
[05:18] <jetscreamer> Jangari: http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind
[05:18] <bullgard4> YeTr2: Thank you for providing me that information.
[05:18] <Jangari> pity it's about 100,000 lines ling
[05:18] <Jangari> long*
[05:18] <UnWorthy> when I tried to run XP from grub my hal was gone!
[05:18] <UnWorthy> HAL WAS GONE
[05:18] <Jangari> thanks jetscreamer
[05:18] <Brinson> Someone asked about dual booting. You should check out Wubi. Wubi-Installer.org Like 2 or 3 clicks from inside windows and you have a dual boot scenario.
[05:18] <me> jangari, do you know how to solve this sleep monitor problem?
[05:18] <UnWorthy> 2 or 3 clicks
[05:18] <Jangari> run the liveCD, me
[05:19] <me> how
[05:19] <me> ?
[05:19] <Jangari> that's the only way to install
[05:19] <cvd> brb
[05:19] <musikgoat> anyone else having flakey internet?
[05:19] <Brinson> Something like that. Less than 10 me thinks.
[05:19] <hotmonkeyluv> JohnRobert: ubuntu.com
[05:19] <me> i boot the cd
[05:19] <Jangari> put it in the cd drive and restart, by default a bootable cd will be the first device to boot
[05:19] <dreamnid> me: sorry, are you saying that you can't see anything when you try to boot off the live cd?
[05:19] <kapace> anyone got WINS working on ubuntu?
[05:19] <kapace> or how i can restart it
[05:19] <Jangari> oh, you have booted?
[05:19] <me> i did it
[05:19] <kapace> i have winbind
[05:19] <me> yeap
[05:19] <UnWorthy> I don't want to run "wubi" I want to run UU 1.6
[05:20] <Jangari> so you're on ubuntu now?
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> does anyone know why my RAM shows up as 1004MB and not 1024MB in the system monitor?
[05:20] <me> nope, on xp
[05:20] <UnWorthy> my problem was grub killed my hal.dll
[05:20] <UnWorthy> how do I stop it from doing that?
[05:20] <musikgoat> ubuntuuserinneed: video card could be using memory
[05:20] <me> getting information to boot again and install ubuntu
[05:20] <dreamnid> me: Okay, so it sounds like Ubuntu isn't detecting your monitor resolution correclty
[05:20] <Jangari> me, do you want to install ubuntu?
[05:20] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, probably you have an integrated video on your motherboard and BIOS has reserved some memory for that
[05:20] <Jangari> do you want to keep your xp stuff?
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> musikgoat: I have a dedicated video card.
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> err
[05:21] <ubuntuuserinneed> musikgoat/czr
[05:21] <me> dreamnid: how do I solve this oO?
[05:21] <UnWorthy> how do I not get grub to kill my hal.dll?
[05:21] <me> jangari: don't have to. Its a new pc, not much stuff here
[05:21] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, what does 'free' say about total Mem? (just the one number)
[05:21] <UnWorthy> anyone?
[05:21] <UnWorthy> how do I not get grub to kill my hal.dll?
[05:21] <tritium> !repeat | UnWorthy
[05:21] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[05:21] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:21] <Flannel> UnWorthy: GRUB literally can't kill hal.dll, it doesn't touch anything except the MBR
[05:22] <UnWorthy> so how was my hal.dll missing after the install and fixmbr and fixboot didn't work?
[05:22] <oboy03> hi
[05:22] <oboy03> can anyone help me
[05:22] <me> dreamnid: if i lower the resolution, the installation will proceed?
[05:22] <Jangari> oh, i see, when you boot from liveCD the monitor keeps blacking out? i probably won't be able to help you
[05:22] <cvd> aparently its working, tritium
[05:22] <oboy03> i've installed mirc on wine
[05:22] <cvd> :-)
[05:22] <tritium> cvd: good
[05:22] <dreamnid> me: ah... how do you plan to lower the resolution?
[05:23] <me> jangari: thanks for the good will anyway =]
[05:23] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: under total?
[05:23] <oboy03> I've deleted the mirc but it is still there on the programs tab
[05:23] <ubuntuuserinneed>  1028412
[05:23] <me> dreamnid: i'll try that out
[05:23] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, yes. Mem - row, Total column.
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> me: You can F6 and make some changes there
[05:23] <Jangari> me, how long before your screen 'sleeps'?
[05:23] <UnWorthy> so my hal.dll just vanished? and it had nothing to do with ubuntu?
[05:23] <dreamnid> me: I mean, when you boot it, does it let you choose the resolution?
[05:23] <dreamnid> me: unless you're talking about changing it in XP, which won't help
[05:23] <tritium> UnWorthy: it has nothing to do with grub, most certainly.
[05:24] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, that looks quite normal. some of the low memory cannot be reclaimed and some memory is reserved by the BIOS for various tables it builds on boot
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: thing is that I have 1024MB of RAM. 2x512 sticks
[05:24] <UnWorthy> what could cause it?
[05:24] <musikgoat> UnWorthy: could you have two locations that have a windows install?
[05:24] <UnWorthy> no just 1
[05:24] <me> jangari:as soon as i press "enter" in "install ubuntu" ((first option))
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> and it shows up in windows...
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> hmm?
[05:24] <UnWorthy> I installed ubuntu on my 2nd HD
[05:24] <UnWorthy> 2nd part on the 2nd HD
[05:24] <me> jangari: and if i press "install with updates" to
[05:24] <me> too*
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> low memory? mem reserved by bios...
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> odd
[05:25] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, if you want really accurate picture, use dmidecode
[05:25] <UnWorthy> lol heres a good question which should I install windows vista ultimate or ubuntu ultimate 1.6? hehe
[05:25] <oboy03> i've uninstall mirc on wine, but the mirc tab on programs is still there how can i remove it
[05:25] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, it can show you how many sticks you have, and all kinds of low level info IF you really want to see it (run with sudo)
[05:25] <cvd> any site to download usplashs?
[05:25] <me> dreamnid: yes, on the boot i can set the resolution. gonna put 640x 480 or lower oO
[05:25] <dreamnid> me: ok, good luck :-)
[05:25] <Flannel> UnWorthy: You used ubuntu ultimate?  That could be the reason.  Who knows.  Get an official version of ubuntu and try that.  Of course, it won't bring back a missing file.
[05:25] <crdlb> UnWorthy: you do not want "ubuntu ultimate"
[05:26] <me> dreamnid: thx =D
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> oboy03: How did you remove it?  Uninstall or just delete it.  #Winehq has answers for most wine issues
[05:26] <UnWorthy> no this was was ubuntu fiesty fawn
[05:26] <UnWorthy> whats wrong with ultimate??
[05:26] <me> jandari: any more clues, jandari? =]
[05:26] <crdlb> !ultimate | UnWorthy
[05:26] <ubotu> UnWorthy: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[05:26] <__bb> someone can help me make a router using firehol?
[05:26] <Flannel> UnWorthy: It's a hackjob on the real Ubuntu
[05:26] <crdlb> it's not actually an ubuntu project
[05:26] <oboy03> i just deleted it
[05:26] <oboy03> thanks
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:27] <Jangari> sorry me, i ain't got nothin'
[05:27] <UnWorthy> so I wouldn't have a problem installing all the apps thats come with ultimate?
[05:27] <UnWorthy> on gusty or feisty?
[05:27] <me> jangari: that's ok =] wish me luck
[05:27] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, the memory that linux can use is limited by what the BIOS will tell it when the kernel starts. instead of lying like windows, most linux tools just report the size of the "really useable memory".
[05:27] <me> and thanks, jangari and dreamnid =]
[05:27] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, so what you're seeing is quite normal.
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> UnWorthy: Sure you would have trouble if they had to change repos to get them into their version
[05:27] <UnWorthy> repos?
[05:28] <UnWorthy> sry linux n00b here...
[05:28] <UnWorthy> *nix as my brother calls it
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: I see...
[05:28] <tritium> !repos > UnWorthy
[05:28] <UnWorthy> I'm interested in taking my linux+ after my A+ and net+
[05:28] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, did you try 'sudo dmidecode' yet?
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> I did
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> showed me something like A0 and A1
[05:28] <UnWorthy> thanks tritium
[05:29] <UnWorthy> lol
[05:29] <Mr__> anybody here still?
[05:29] <dreamnid> UnWorthy: You'll learn to love the repos :-P
[05:29] <UnWorthy> thats from spiderman 2
[05:29] <elninja> UnWorthy, if you had the Ubuntu installer resize a Windows partition without defragging it first, then it might have lost/corrupted hal.dll (or other files)
[05:29] <ubuntuuserinneed> Btw, I wana know if its possible to get my multimedia keys working in Amarok
[05:29] <tritium> UnWorthy: no, it's really not
[05:29] <UnWorthy> yeah it recommended drfraging...
[05:29] <UnWorthy> maybe I should listen...
[05:29] <Mr__> whats the off topic channel again
[05:29] <Mr__> ?
[05:29] <UnWorthy> they make it sound so optional!!
[05:29] <UnWorthy> :P
[05:30] <ubuntuuserinneed> (also reinstalling ubuntu now since it kept screwing up after a while.
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[05:30] <tritium> !enter | UnWorthy
[05:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:30] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:30] <czr> Mr__, add '-offtopic' to the channel name :-)
[05:30] <dreamnid> !offtopic | Mr__
[05:30] <ubotu> Mr__: please see above
[05:30] <Mr__> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <UnWorthy> damn this bot doesn't like me
[05:30] <tritium> UnWorthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium (It's *not* from SpiderMan 2)
[05:30] <UnWorthy> so is it too much trouble to try and get ntldr to load ubuntu?
[05:31] <UnWorthy> should I just use grub?
[05:31] <UnWorthy> sry tritium
[05:31] <ubuntuuserinneed> whats ntldr?
[05:31] <Cpudan80> Just use GRUB
[05:31] <czr> UnWorthy, there's a small GUI program for windows that did that. let me google
[05:31] <dreamnid> NTloader
[05:31] <UnWorthy> NTLoader
[05:31] <czr> if you really absolutely are too scared of replacing the windows MBR with the GRUB one
[05:31] <UnWorthy> k thanks czr
[05:31] <oboy03> where can i find the wine folder?
[05:31] <Flannel> UnWorthy: GRUB is much easier.  Especially with Ubuntu updates.  And GRUB boots windows just as well as NTLDR
[05:31] <Cpudan80> ubuntuuserinneed: Windows XP's silly little bootloader
[05:31] <UnWorthy> yeah it just that damn hal.dll problem...
[05:31] <ploom> UnWorthy, ntldr is boot loader with its own quirks
[05:31] <UnWorthy> happen my first time trying to dual with ubuntu...
[05:32] <czr> well, ntldr can be used to chainload grub
[05:32] <Flannel> UnWorthy: Thats independant of GRUB.  Somehow you lost that file.
[05:32] <Elda> Quick question.... is there any program like the Network Manager applet in Gnome for KDE?  Because for some reason, when using KDE even though it finds my network it wont allow me to connect to it
[05:32] <ubuntuuserinneed> Cpudan80: the insane one that didn't allow me to dual boot if I installed windows afterward you mean.
[05:32] <UnWorthy> well
[05:32] <Elda> But I want to switch from Gnome to KDE
[05:32] <UnWorthy> let me show you this...
[05:32] <Cpudan80> ubuntuuserinneed: Something like that
[05:32] <ploom> UnWorthy, its propably easier to go with Grub
[05:32] <UnWorthy> http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[05:32] <elninja> UnWorthy, I find it easiest to partition the drive with an Ubuntu liveCD, then install Windows on it's partition, afterwards install Ubuntu on it's partition(s).
[05:32] <UnWorthy> this is where I got my dual boot info from...
[05:32] <ubuntuuserinneed> hope it installs properly this time
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[05:32] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[05:32] <ploom> UnWorthy, and you can always reset the mbr by fdisk later in case you need
[05:33] <Elda> heyll no
[05:33] <Elda> I would never used dial up, lol
[05:33] <UnWorthy> yeah I tried fixboot
[05:33] <Elda> WIreless network ftw
[05:33] <ubuntuuserinneed> DSL is dial up too :(
[05:33] <Elda> Cable
[05:33] <czr> UnWorthy, sry, can't recall it's name. been something like 5 years since I last mentioned it to someone.. autoboot, bootauto or smt or other like that :-)
[05:33] <Elda> Not dialup ;)
[05:33] <UnWorthy> and tried expanding the hal.dl_ into hal.dll from my xp pro disk...but got frustrated
[05:33] <UnWorthy> it's ok czr
[05:33] <UnWorthy> I'll look it up whats it do again? :P
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Elda: The point is.. that you can disable knetwork manager.... and still have internet..
[05:34] <UnWorthy> I just formated...
[05:34] <czr> UnWorthy, it's a small GUI program that will setup your boot.ini to support chainloading other boot managers
[05:34] <czr> UnWorthy, a windows program that is.
[05:34] <Elda> how would I bring my network list up then?
[05:34] <czr> you can also do it manually, but it's quite painful
[05:34] <Elda> I need to bring it up, select my network and enter the password
[05:34] <UnWorthy> kk, so should I install feisty fawn or gutsy?
[05:35] <WGGMk> Im having trouble starting DansGuardian on my Gutsy Gibbon Server (amd64) can anyone assist me in troubleshooting?
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Elda: You can get better answers to kde questions in #Kubuntu
[05:35] <Elda> kk, thanks :)
[05:35] <ubuntuuserinneed> lets hope the installer doesn't screw up now
[05:35] <ploom> UnWorthy, its up to you whether you're interested in the latest and greatest or just look for the three years of support (the LTS thingy)
[05:35] <UnWorthy> and what are the order of ops for my install...I have XP on c:\ and I want to install ubuntu to the 2nd partition of my d:
[05:35] <ubuntuuserinneed> YAY NO FATAL ERROR
[05:36] <ploom> UnWorthy, usually sooner or later you upgrade anyway
[05:36] <UnWorthy> well I'm really interested in beryl and compiz
[05:36] <scoundrel> hi, guys
[05:36] <UnWorthy> can someone point me to a good faq for my situation...
[05:36] <tritium> UnWorthy: they've merged into one project: compiz-fusion
[05:36] <soneil> UnWorthy: the "missing hal.dll" message is really misleading.  it usually means your partition layout has changed enough that boot.ini isn't pointing to the right place anymore.  hal.dll is "missing" because boot.ini sent it looking on the wrong partition.
[05:36] <soneil> nothing's broken.  just confused.
[05:37] <Flannel> UnWorthy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:37] <UnWorthy> yeah
[05:37] <UnWorthy> ah thats vista...
[05:37] <UnWorthy> eww
[05:37] <scoundrel> few weeks go we've started moving some of our servers from rhel4 to ubuntu server (7.10)...
[05:37] <xGeek> Missing hal.dll can be easily fixed from the restore console.
[05:37] <xGeek> Search for it on the MS site.
[05:37] <UnWorthy> fixmbr?
[05:37] <scoundrel> during this week three servers crashed
[05:37] <xGeek> hal.dll has nothing to do with your MBR
[05:37] <czr> scoundrel, what HW?
[05:37] <xGeek> it's getting past the MBR or you wouldn't be seeing that error
[05:38] <tritium> UnWorthy: please remember the !enter reminder
[05:38] <scoundrel> all of them with the same problem - processes started invoking OOM-killer and server was down.
[05:38] <UnWorthy> sry, why would ubuntu kill hal.dll?
[05:38] <scoundrel> czr:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5420, 12-16GB RAM
[05:38] <tritium> UnWorthy: we already explained: It *didn't* kill hal.dll
[05:38] <xGeek> I don't think ubuntu had anything to do with it.
[05:39] <UnWorthy> well it was grub or ubuntu
[05:39] <xGeek> I have customers with the mysterious hal.dll problem all the time with one partition and no ubuntu.
[05:39] <tritium> UnWorthy: no, it was neither
[05:39] <UnWorthy> because it goes from fine to shit in seconds
[05:39] <UnWorthy> sry language...
[05:39] <tritium> !language | UnWorthy
[05:39] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:39] <czr> scoundrel, hmm. you're using the correct kernel for that amount of mem?
[05:39] <czr> scoundrel, i.e., does 'free' see all of the mem on those systems?
[05:39] <co_gokil> GTFYGYGYGYGY
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Operating System: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 up for 1 days, 7 hours, 28 minutes 30 seconds
[05:40] <UnWorthy> CPU/RAM: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz with Currently 464 of 2048MB in use which is 22.66%
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Storage System: n/a Internet Connection: n/a
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Display System: 512MB Radeon X1650 Series (Omega 3.8.442) using a Plug and Play monitor at 1280 by 1024 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[05:40] <scoundrel> czr: 2.6.22-14-server, it sees all memory we have (PAE)
[05:40] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: this would NOT be a Ubuntu (or Linux for that matter) issue. I have had "hal.dll" mysteriously vanish within Virtual Machines, several times
[05:40] <cvd> linuxchick?
[05:40] <co_gokil> WE
[05:40] <czr> scoundrel, ok. have you tracked whether there's a single process/program that is responsible for the OOM or the memory leak is on the kernel side?
[05:40] <UnWorthy> really? just vanish?
[05:40] <co_gokil> TAI
[05:40] <co_gokil> ANJING
[05:40] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: well its a bit more complex then that,
[05:41] <UnWorthy> well then I'll install ubuntu right now...but first I'm going to read that fixmbr on ms' site
[05:41] <UnWorthy> how so WGGMK? thats what seemed to happen to mine...
[05:41] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: in my case, it was adding/removing software/hardware to the Virtual Machine.. My hardware configuration might have changed to fubar the installation.. This would be a windows specific issue though.
[05:41] <czr> scoundrel, sry, have to run (to office), hope you find a solution to the problem though. you might ask official ubuntu support?
[05:41] <me> jangari?
[05:41] <scoundrel> czr: I have logs here but wan't able to log in to the server to check things out. Anyways, on a 12gb machine one process simply could not saturate all memory.
[05:41] <UnWorthy> what version of VMware do you use?
[05:41] <me> dreamnid?
[05:42] <UnWorthy> or do you use something other than vmware?
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, agreed, especially since you have PAE (32-bit)
[05:42] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: VMWare Server (the newest I suppose)
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, and processes are still limited to 4GiB each with PAE.
[05:42] <UnWorthy> is it better than infastruture?
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, I was thinking more of a longer term historical data collection/graphing about different processes and how memory usage evolves (ala rrdtool)
[05:42] <Jangari> me?
[05:42] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: regardless of what "caused" the problem (that you will have to narrow down yourself) the fix is to use the Windows disc to either repair or restore
[05:42] <czr> UnWorthy, join #vmware
[05:43] <xGeek> Why do you think that hal.dll has something to do with the MBR? I'm not following that part.
[05:43] <UnWorthy> well I'ma retard
[05:43] <scoundrel> czr: this is what I'm doing now - setting up monitoring of memory, cpu, etc for all these boxes
[05:43] <UnWorthy> thats why it has something to do with it
[05:43] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: as far as the differences, I cant help you out, Ive only used Workstation & Server.. Like czr: said, you'll get more info out of #vmware
[05:43] <UnWorthy> kk thanks
[05:44] <Shuggle> I'm trying to find more information about a problem a friend had when he tried to install ubuntu. He chose the guided installation to resize his existing windows partition. The installer removed his windows vista partition and installed using all the space. When it was finished, his computer would not boot, as if the boot loader had not been installed. Why would it do that?
[05:44] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: the MBR would not effect hal.dll (Hardware Abstraction Layer)
[05:44] <UnWorthy> I know hal.dll doesn't have anything to do with the MBR but I was reading somewhere that a fixmbr would help...
[05:44] <czr> scoundrel, good luck, that's what I'd start doing as well (dmesg not showing anything interesting probably either). you might also take a look at slabinfo and the kernel memory usage stuff. it could be a kernel memory leak as well.
[05:44] <tritium> Shuggle: which is it?  If he choise the resize, it wouldn't remove the existing partition.
[05:44] <czr> scoundrel, but I'll have to afk, so hope you find the culprit
[05:44] <UnWorthy> but now that I thinka bout it...maybe was fixin another problem...
[05:45] <xGeek>     |         "R(#MF `<      "!!~     ~<9XN#$$XX<:      |
[05:45] <xGeek>     |          "%/9" x~       :L       XH?R?M$$$x%      |
[05:45] <xGeek> oops. sorry.
[05:45] <Orion1357> Hi.  Using Synaptic, I removed Evolution.  Now when I log in, I get a blank screen.  Can this be fixed without having to reinstall ubuntu all over again.
[05:45] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: i dont see how it would... if your missing hal.dll your missing hal.dll.. fixing a Master Boot Record does nothing but effect a boot record.
[05:45] <fragged_> UnWorthy, I dont know where I read it but I've heard that hal.dll is an issue with certain distros, from what I can recall try just copying the hal.dll from the windows CD back to C:/Windows/(system32? Idk)
[05:45] <xGeek> UnWorthy: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314477
[05:45] <soneil> WGGMk: it's just because his partiton map has changed, boot.ini is out of date.  he just needs to start the recovery console, remove boot.ini, and bootcfg /rebuild.  it's nothing to do with ubuntu.   he just happens to have changed partitions in the process
[05:46] <xGeek> UnWorthy: Method 2 on that page almost always works.
[05:46] <Shuggle> tritium: He chose to resize since he specifically needed his windows installation. The installer then acted as if he chose to delete all data on the disk and then didnt install grub
[05:46] <WGGMk> soneil: as I said in one of my previous messages.. Linux (or any other OS) that is on a separate partition wouldnt effect each other
[05:47] <tritium> Shuggle: he must have made a mistake in his choice.  The installer doesn't do that.
[05:47] <WGGMk> soneil: as far as the boot.ini being out of date. your prolly right about that
[05:47] <eahls> is there a way to install ubuntu without burning it to a cd ? The cd drive on my laptop is broken and I have windows.
[05:47] <xGeek> WGGMk: resizing and/or moving the parition will cause the boot.ini partition path to not be set correct causing the "missing hal.dll" error
[05:48] <WGGMk> eahls: you can install it to a USB stick and boot from USB or you can order FREE CD's from ubuntu.com
[05:48] <soneil> WGGMk: yeah, it's not one OS affecting the other.  it's just windows freaking out because the disk layout has changed.  it's world has disappeared from beneath it's feet.  and it doesn't like that
[05:48] <xGeek> I need to invest in a usb extension or actually do something and connect the front ports on my computer.
[05:49] <eahls> ok thanks, im going to try getting to load off my usb drive
[05:49] <WGGMk> soneil: xGeek: if im not mistaken, a similar thing happens with other hardware components in Windows as well correct?
[05:49] <Orion1357> Well, if you are all busy with another topic, I'll come back another time.  But I'll ask one more time: Using Synaptic, I removed Evolution.  Now when I log in, I get a blank screen.  Can this be fixed without having to reinstall ubuntu all over again?
[05:49] <fragged_> mmm guys I'm playing around with OpenGL via PyGame and on feisty I couldnt get the text to draw from this example http://www.disruption.ca/gutil/example3/example3b.html to work, after a clean install of the latest Ubuntu distro all works fine, does anybody know which package was not functioning correctly? I'd like to know as I have a gentoo system that also has the same problem and a complete update of the system might take days
[05:49] <fragged_> :E
[05:49] <WGGMk> Orion1257: what else besides Evolution was removed?
[05:50] <Orion1357> I just removed packages that referenced Evolution, so it was more than one package.  But I don't remember which ones.
[05:50] <xGeek> WGGMk: I suppose. Not sure what you mean by hardware though.
[05:51] <WGGMk> xGeek: well I know if there's too many changes to the hardware config you have to re-activate windows sometimes
[05:51] <Shuggle> tritium: That's the first thing that I thought. With my experience, I had no problem configuring both of my system as dual boot. I was wondering if this might be some sort of bug that I would need to guard for when attempting another set up on his system. (he still wants ubuntu, if he can get it without losing all his data.. again)
[05:51] <Orion1357> I just got this bad feeling that Gnome was using something I removed.
[05:51] <xGeek> WGGMk: That's WGA. A completely different monster.
[05:51] <xGeek> WGGMk: Windows is not a nice OS to work with.
[05:51] <WGGMk> Orion1357: thats not a very good way to uninstall an application (for future reference)
[05:52] <fragged_> Shuggle, if in doubt back up the entire hard drive (if your anything like me or most of my geek friends, having ~250gb of free space is not rare)
[05:52] <WGGMk> xGeek: ahh.. havent used windows (other then a coaster) for some times
[05:52] <Orion1357> Thanks.  But I guess I'm still in learning mode here.
[05:52] <WGGMk> *time
[05:52] <neo> anyone here??
[05:52] <xGeek> WGGMk: I make a lot of money fixing very simple stuff on windows machines.
[05:52] <Orion1357> If the bad news is I must do a total reinstall, just say so.
[05:52] <xGeek> WGGMk: can also be a hassle too though.
[05:52] <loltto> on the http://www.ubuntu.com/ site when downloading whats the part about the alternate ""LIVE"" desktop CD all about
[05:52] <fragged_> no neo all 1135 of the members are away
[05:53] <Shuggle> fragged_: fortunately, he has complete backups all the way through monday afternoon
[05:53] <neo> hehe,this is the first time i use IRC!:)
[05:53] <WGGMk> Orion1357: every starts somewhere.. the quick solution would be to hit CTRL+ALT+F1 (which will bring you to a command line) log in.. shutdown gnome ("sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop") and reinstall Evolution (need help with package name)
[05:53] <neo> Thanks fragged
[05:53] <WGGMk> xGeek: I deal with enough Windows at work.. 2003 server's crashing every other week..
[05:53] <Orion1357> Tried that.   "sudo apt-get install evolution"
[05:54] <UnWorthy> yeah if you take your ram out and put it back in you can to reactivate windows...
[05:54] <Orion1357> But I got an error
[05:54] <fragged_> loltto, 'live' cds are cds that run entirely off the CD there does not need to be any data transferred to or from the hard drive... they are generally slow and jolty, like when the CD spins down and you run a program it can take a while for it to load
[05:54] <UnWorthy> have to*
[05:54] <WGGMk> Orion1357: which was?
[05:54] <xGeek> WGGMk: I know this is cliche, but I tell all my clients to reboot their 2k3 servers every friday.
[05:54] <Orion1357> "could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[05:54] <WGGMk> xGeek: lol.. do you have RDP5 login's at all? ever get that "resource or domain not available"??
[05:54] <UnWorthy> you guys are the uber g33ks <3 you talk you do ubuntu tech support for fun <4
[05:55] <fragged_> WGGMk, I work somewhere with Windows 2k3 servers and they seem relatively stable unless you can blame them from power outages caused by crappy lines...
[05:55] <loltto> fragged_>can a live cd have the option of installing to hard drive or just runs of cdrom???
[05:55] <xGeek> WGGMk: no but I get disconnected a lot.
[05:55] <soneil> fragged_: servers without UPSes is just silly
[05:55] <WGGMk> Orion1357: I assume your on a different machine? is the ubuntu machine connected? try pinging google? sudo apt-get update first then try again
[05:55] <fragged_> loltto, some do, some tell you they do and dont, and some just dont, unsure about Ubuntu
[05:55] <xGeek> WGGMk: "protocol error" I still haven't figured that one out.
[05:56] <Orion1357> No.  On same machine.  Have a XP/Ubuntu dual boot.
[05:56] <fragged_> soneil, 20 servers, not enough UPS to last out an entire weekend (and THAT would be just silly)
[05:56] <UnWorthy> so can someone do me a huge favor....find the ms support that talks about fixing hal.dll errors....WGGMk....
[05:56] <WGGMk> fragged_: this would be open to debate.. i work at a VERY large distribution center.. and those servers process a LOT of date.. which anyone can tell you Windows is particularly bad at data processing
[05:56] <Orion1357> Maybe the server was down temporarily?
[05:56] <UnWorthy> since it's soooo easy
[05:56] <xGeek> UnWorthy: I sent you a link to the fix earlier.
[05:56] <soneil> fragged_: just expensive in that case
[05:57] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: as i can give you advice, im not going to do legwork for you. several people have given you solutions.. sorry if this sounds harsh
[05:57] <UnWorthy> sry could I have it again?
[05:57] <tritium> UnWorthy: this channel is for ubuntu support.  PLease see ##windows for your request.
[05:57] <fragged_> WGGMk, Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying that windows is the best software for all tasks, but usually crappy programs are the cause to an unstable server, both in windows and *nix
[05:57] <UnWorthy> thank tritium....sry
[05:57] <WGGMk> xGeek: im not really sure how Windows can get away with leaving error's vauge and general as they do
[05:57] <fragged_> UnWorthy, or google, you know, if you KNOW how to google
[05:58] <WGGMk> fragged_: im with you on that one.. and we do have some "crappy" software
[05:58] <xGeek> WGGMk: For one error microsoft.com normally has 3 - 6 'solutions'
[05:58] <WGGMk> fragged_: but software crashing and the entire OS locking up are different issues
[05:58] <xGeek> WGGMk: sometimes none of which work
[05:59] <fragged_> WGGMk, the entire system locking up can be caused by drivers, or just bad hardware, I've seen windows systems run for months
[05:59] <WGGMk> xGeek: by any chance, have you taken any MS's courses.. inparticular the MSCA course? i nearled laughed when they were teaching it
[05:59] <Shuggle> is there a good program to make those restore cds that come with new computers, but for linux?
[05:59] <xGeek> WGGMk: I took A+ and I'm working on my bachelors. I think I'm going to skip MS and go for my CCNA.
[05:59] <Shuggle> err... can I make restore cds for linux/raw partitions?
[05:59] <UnWorthy> http://support.etechnologyit.net/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25
[06:00] <WGGMk> xGeek: i dont get how MS says this is the way it WILL work.. when you can have millions of different combinations of hardware that can radically change the environment so it DOESNT work MS's way
[06:00] <UnWorthy> who thinks this hal.dll fix is correct?
[06:00] <UnWorthy> on that link
[06:00] <WGGMk> xGeek: i would recommend CCNA over any MS course.. if you happen to get Security+ and Network+ cert's.. they will be highly respected over any MS cert
[06:00] <thirso> I'm trying to "auto-mount" my windows network shared folder with samba by adding this line to fstab: //main/music     /media/music        cifs   auto,credentials=/home/thirso/.smbpasswd,workgroup=MSHOME,gid=smb,uid=1000,file_mode=700,dir_mode=700,rw       0       0 . But i keep getting this error message: WARNING: 'file_mode' not expressed in octal.
[06:01] <WGGMk> xGeek: add Server+ in there
[06:01] <xGeek> WGGMk: Agreed. I would prefer not the be stuck in a windows environment later on in life.
[06:01] <UnWorthy> xGeek I'm taking a college class for my A+ and Net+ :)
[06:01] <UnWorthy> half way through A+
[06:02] <WGGMk> fragged_: i have a home server running Linux amd64 that needed to be restarted because my ISP dropped out.. figure that one out
[06:02] <xGeek> WGGMk: I'm currently the IT manager for a small firm that runs nothing but apple. It has definitely been a much nicer experience than some of my 2k3 server clients.
[06:02] <WGGMk> xGeek: ok, that concludes our conversation.. i have a bane for Apple's
[06:02] <UnWorthy> •xGeek• how much experience did you put on your resume?
[06:02] <UnWorthy> just the A+?
[06:02] <xGeek> WGGMk: haha.. I don't like apples. I deal with them because they make me money.
[06:03] <xGeek> WGGMk: They are over priced. However, being based on BSD and from experience I think they run much cleaner than any MS OS.
[06:03] <ta1> How do I go about recompiling a kernel with an additional module(ieee1394)?  Is there somewhere that has a good tutorial?
[06:03] <WGGMk> xGeek: i deal with them because Apple says we have to deal with them.. they are nice.. run smooth.. i cry at compatibily with others.. and lets face it.. Apple's a bit behind the times as far as software updates (bleeding edge rather)
[06:04] <xGeek> WGGMk: very much so.
[06:04] <ploom> xGeek, I agree that least no anti-virus or too much malware
[06:04] <naitse> alojasss
[06:04] <naitse> una preguntonta
[06:04] <xGeek> WGGMk: in my opinion apple doesn't sell software. they are a hardware vendor who happens to have a proprietary OS.
[06:04] <UnWorthy> •xGeek• you sound like your doing alright for just an A+
[06:05] <naitse> instale los drivers de nvidia en ubuntu 7.10
[06:05] <naitse> y ahora la pantalla es como que esta mas grande el desktop que el monitor :P
[06:05] <WGGMk> xGeek: if they went open source.. i think MS would be in serious trouble
[06:05] <xGeek> UnWorthy: I put all of my freelance work on my resume and have lots of good local business references.
[06:05] <fragged_> WGGMk, I dont understand why your telling me to figure it out? I'd assume it'd be an issue with the network, be that software or hardware, being so vague doesnt help, and the fact that I'm relatively new to linux (one year) doesnt make me a know all. What I do know is that I'm sick of these blatant fanboy attacks on other operating systems, sure most people here probbably prefer a linux environment, and mac users enjoy theres, bu
[06:05] <fragged_> t windows (bar vista) is actually pretty good at most basic tasks, and is also easier for small businesses where nobody has a clue about linux (if even heard of it before).
[06:05] <naitse> y para llegar a los lados es como que corro la pantalla con el mouse
[06:05] <Darkmystere> I cant get VMware Workstation to run...
[06:05] <UnWorthy> ahh very good...see I have no experience....experience is...it
[06:07] <Darkmystere> ...Could some 1 help me i cant get VMware Workstation to Run?
[06:07] <dreamnid> !es | naitse
[06:07] <ubotu> naitse: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:07] <WGGMk> fragged_: will all respect, im not a fanboy. I HAVE to deal with several different OS's on daily bases.. and FROM MY EXPERIENCES with them, being workstation or server or thin client. Ive had more trouble with Windows then any other OS out there
[06:07] <xGeek> fragged_: I don't consider myself a fanboy at all. However the flaw in your argument is this: small business need to do very simple tasks such as send email and use office applications. Linux or X whether it be KDE or Gnome has the ability to put icons on the desktop the same as windows. I don't see the difference.
[06:07] <thirso> naitse: nvidia-settings
[06:07] <fragged_> Darkmystere, I'm sure VMWare's webpage has support, or just being more descriptive might help ;)
[06:07] <UnWorthy> anyone read that funny article about that linux guy going into a best buy and putting the liveCD of ultimate on one of the displays and all the geeksquad guys gather around in awe...
[06:07] <ploom> WGGMk, MS won't be in trouble too much - the last thing theyll do would be reinventing some special form of open source'ry too
[06:08] <ploom> WGGMk, actually they already have the license texts available - google for Microsoft Open Source ;-)
[06:08] <xGeek> Small business applications are the same basically across all platforms.
[06:08] <Darkmystere> fragged_: Well i tried running in terminal it waits a free seconds asks for pass (using gksudo) And then it returns command prompt leaving me with no window..
[06:08] <UnWorthy> http://support.etechnologyit.net/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25
[06:08] <WGGMk> ploom: i was referring to Apple going Open Source
[06:08] <fragged_> xGeek, the difference in many areas is still the lack of support, where I'm working now we have discussed running linux, but as I am only a temp, and the only one with a clue (and not an extensive one) about the OS and how stuff works both in house and likely in-town, it'd be hard to get any support once I'm gone,
[06:08] <UnWorthy> someone goto that link and tell me if thats the way to fix the hal.dll?
[06:09] <ploom> WGGMk, and I was refferring to MS being in trouble (not)
[06:09] <UnWorthy> read it!
[06:09] <UnWorthy> In RARE cases this may not solve the problem. When this happens you have 3 choices.<
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 1. Copy the hal.dll file from another system to C:\windows\system32
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 2. Perform a repair installation of Windows XP
[06:09] <UnWorthy> 3. Format and Reinstall Windows XP onto the system
[06:09] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <unagi_> anyone know what kdes default battery applet is called?
[06:10] <WGGMk> fragged_: your adding another element to the equation though. support....
[06:10] <UnWorthy> option number 3 was the only options...after installing ubuntu!
[06:10] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: why dont you try the solution that is presented yourself to see if it works????
[06:11] <UnWorthy> I did
[06:11] <ploom> fragged_, last time for you to train an apprentice
[06:11] <UnWorthy> it didn't work...expanding the hal.dl_ to c:\windows\system32\hal.dll DID NOT WORK
[06:11] <UnWorthy> one of the "rare cases"
[06:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: then put the Windows CD and repair the OS.. its an option
[06:11] <UnWorthy> so what then? if it's a "rare case"
[06:11] <naitse> Hi, need little help
[06:12] <UnWorthy> I did not recieve that option
[06:12] <fragged_> WGGMk, dont get me wrong, I would avoid using a windows network long term as a preference but as far as the original argument went, you think M$ is crap because of instabilities? the server editions in particular are relatively good at core stability but it also comes down to drivers which are to do with the venedor anyway
[06:12] <UnWorthy> I got reinstall
[06:12] <Greevous> anyone know what app is used to play system sounds? As in running a command to play a specific sound
[06:12] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: have you heard of the term PEBKAC?
[06:12] <UnWorthy> no I have not
[06:12] <UnWorthy> please enlighten me
[06:12] <naitse> my desktop is more big than the monitor screen... and i must use the mouse to see the edges :S
[06:12] <UnWorthy> more big?
[06:12] <UnWorthy> or bigger?
[06:13] <fragged_> naitse, nvidia-settings, or set the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: I would suggest you re-read (carefully) the solution. then research on how you can "repair" your operating system
[06:13] <UnWorthy> yeah...yeah it's bigger
[06:13] <ploom> UnWorthy, well - you still have your partitions? Can you see the other files in your windows partition??
[06:13] <naitse> i installed the nvidia video driver
[06:13] <naitse> yhea bigger
[06:13] <Darkmystere> Ok,now im getting somewhere its saying wasnt configured correctly but when i run the command it says file not found
[06:13] <UnWorthy> yeah
[06:13] <ploom> Greevous, there are many options, one of them is aplay
[06:13] <UnWorthy> but see something odd happens...in the recovery console I can't axx my 2nd HD
[06:13] <UnWorthy> my "storage" hard drive...
[06:14] <Greevous> ploom: is aplay installed by default?
[06:14] <UnWorthy> otherwise I would make a copy of hal.dll and put it on the other drive
[06:14] <WGGMk> fragged_: well yes and no. My personal opinion is MS is crap. I dont like them. my profession experience is that my companies Windows 2k3 servers are crap
[06:14] <mandel> hy there
[06:14] <klan-chuki-dialo> #ubuntu-es
[06:14] <UnWorthy> my teacher is the biggest MS fanboy alive,,,
[06:15] <UnWorthy> 'barely knows wth linux is...he knows its around but thats it...
[06:15] <ploom> Greevous, umm - it comes with alsa I believe
[06:15] <ploom> Greevous, alsa-utils could be the package - I dont remember exactly
[06:15] <soneil> WGGMk: you make me happy I don't touch software at all at work.   I'm still working on getting even further from computers professionally tho.  perfect way to ruin a good hobby
[06:15] <ePax> Its "barely" that 95% of earth population knows what linux is.
[06:15] <Greevous> ploom: okay, thank you very much
[06:15] <nemilar> UnWorthy: you realize that is about 97% of the population
[06:15] <ePax> (;
[06:16] <nemilar> 100% of the population of people that have used the internet, have used linux,though ;)
[06:16] <mandel> can help me somebady with instaling the zapp z010 modem...?!
[06:16] <WGGMk> soneil: is does make it difficult to log on my computers/servers at home
[06:16] <ploom> Greevous, in ubuntu it depends on your sound settings, but alsa should work always and esd would be just on top of that
[06:16] <fragged_> WGGMk, I near-agree with you, but Linux also has some flaws, and while instability is not one of them, unfortunately usability, public knowlege and specialized knowlege are. This will change in time and unless Windows comes up with some incredible stuff in the next decade I can see Linux taking more of a buisiness share
[06:17] <WGGMk> soneil: in fact i have an issue (for about 2 weeks now) with DansGuardian not being able to start and have no desire to trouble shoot it untill today.. and even then im distracted by other's situations
[06:17] <ploom> fragged_, still - how about mentoring apprentice some day?
[06:17] <fragged_> ploom, I'm 17, theres still a bit of time for that ;)
[06:18] <ePax> ubuntu + nvidia = what a l000ve
[06:18] <ePax> :D
[06:18] <musikgoat> there isn't a default vnc server in xubuntu?  any recommendations ?
[06:18] <Juzzy`> I've just used gparted on a live cd to extend my / partition from 10gb to 20gb
[06:18] <Juzzy`> But once i reboot it still only shows 10gb
[06:18] <UnWorthy> thats weird...one of the possible fixes for a hal.dll error is to....bootcfg/rebuild and a fixboot?
[06:18] <WGGMk> fragged_: in comparison to servers.. I believe Linux will always be a more powerful OS. but your right.. Linux does have a long way to go before coming into the Desktop area. but you must admit that the dev's with Ubuntu (lets not forget Debian) are definatly stepping up the game
[06:18] <fragged_> musikgoat, VNC is VNC, I mean afaik its a standard protocol, any crap server will be nuked and so your left with a few good ones
[06:18] <Juzzy`> gparted shows 20 though
[06:18] <ploom> fragged_, I hope you have part-time job next to school then :-) 26 here...
[06:19] <UnWorthy> but but but...what does hal.dll have to do with a fixboot??
[06:19] <fragged_> ploom, In australia, doing a TAFE certificate, school + work part time, and hopefully uni next year =)
[06:19] <Juzzy`> When resizing a root partition do you need to tell it to use the new free space?
[06:19] <fragged_> UnWorthy, hal.dll is to do with windows #windows may help more
[06:19] <ploom> fragged_, cool - I have a friend at Australia too - almost for a year now. Studying and working.
[06:20] <Juzzy`> <- Adelaide, Australia
[06:20] <UnWorthy> oh thats the answer
[06:20] <musikgoat> different utilities sometimes work better in different desktop env, I'm running ubuntu, but my lab partner is running xubuntu on our machine,  anyone recommend a good walk through to help him, or a command line install that I can do?
[06:20] <UnWorthy> f off
[06:20] <fragged_> Juzzy`, I do believe I've seen your alias before, valhalla yes?
[06:20] <Juzzy`> Yes :P
[06:20] <UnWorthy> to #windows right?
[06:21] <WGGMk> so, Im having an issue with DansGuardian hanging on start (sudo /etc/init.d/dansguardian start) and im missing the *.pid file in /var/run. anyone have a clue?
[06:21] <ePax> UnWorthy: Whats the problem? Do you have dualboot and cant boot MS?
[06:21] <UnWorthy> no I did
[06:21] <UnWorthy> and I want to reinstall ubuntu
[06:22] <fragged_> musikgoat, XUbuntu is very similar to Ubuntu, like its still using apt synaptics etc so if he is learning just install whatever your using to show him, let him make his own software choices once he's more confortable with his new os :)
[06:22] <UnWorthy> but when I installed it for a dual boot I had to format and reinstall windows...and ubuntu...
[06:22] <ePax> UnWorthy: Ok. Install win first then ubuntu.
[06:22] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: no one is telling you to "f off" nor is anyone NOT giving you solutions. YOU are failing to take the advice thats being given to you. Your missing hal.dll. a mate in here told you its a problem with boot.ini (being outdated) and you would need to repair it so it know's where hal.dll is
[06:22] <musikgoat> fragged_: good point
[06:23] <ePax> UnWorthy: If you have problems with boot you can fix them without reinstalling any of your systems.
[06:23] <UnWorthy> I'm on XP
[06:23] <Juzzy`> fragged_, why won't linux recognise that i've resized my partition from 10gb to 20gb
[06:24] <UnWorthy> with a bootcfg/rebuild and a fixboot?
[06:24] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: what do you mean resized?
[06:24] <UnWorthy> or a fixmbr?
[06:24] <Juzzy`> resized the partition useing gparted
[06:24] <fragged_> Not entirely sure, I stay away from partitioning D:, hell I lost my vista cd with my laptop (and later found it scratched up and tossed it aside anyway :P)
[06:24] <ePax> Juzzy`: Its meybe resized but not mounted. Gparted can fix that.
[06:24] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: is it partitioned with a file system?
[06:24] <Juzzy`> ePax, it has to be mounted, i'm using it
[06:24] <Juzzy`> yeah
[06:25] <Juzzy`> I just resized the extfs to 20gb
[06:25] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: have you tried restarting?
[06:25] <Juzzy`> yup
[06:25] <Juzzy`> i'll try again but dunno if that'll fix anything
[06:25] <Juzzy`> gparted shows 20gb
[06:25] <Juzzy`> but it still shows the same amount of free space as before resizing
[06:25] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: all on the same partition?
[06:25] <UnWorthy> •ePax• how would I fix a hal.dll problem...I tried expanding the hal.dl_ from the recovery console...and I tried a fixboot
[06:25] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, its all on the same drive
[06:26] <UnWorthy> I'm not interested in some MS tech support I just don't want to have to reinstall AGAIN if I'm going to install ubuntu AGAIN
[06:26] <fragged_> UnWorthy, this is LINUX chat, not windows WINDOWS CHAT IS FOR WINDOWS
[06:26] <UnWorthy> I'm not interested in some MS tech support I just don't want to have to reinstall AGAIN if I'm going to install ubuntu AGAIN
[06:26] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: are there multi OS's or just Linux? which parition? swap, root?
[06:26] <Juzzy`> I've got XP, Linux, Swap, Data(ntfs)
[06:26] <Juzzy`> in that order
[06:26] <Tobias92> Hey ubuntu people. The built-in drivers seem to load my WinTV USB tv-card but when I try to play /dev/video0 with mplayer, it dies without an apparent reason
[06:27] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: when you installed Linux, did you custom partition or is everyone on root and swap?
[06:27] <ePax> UnWorthy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605234
[06:27] <Juzzy`> I just did 10gb manual partitoin for / and auto for swap
[06:28] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: not to be rude but did you resize / or swap?
[06:28] <Juzzy`> i resized / from 10 to 20gb
[06:28] <fragged> Juzzy`, read pm (Unrelated to personal chat) you also need to identify to nickserv to respond =)
[06:28] <Juzzy`> k
[06:28] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: fdisk -ls in terminal might need sudo (pastebin your output
[06:28] <Juzzy`> i'll add you
[06:29] <Juzzy`> k
[06:29] <Juzzy`> WGGMk,  i'll do that, gimme a min
[06:29] <bod_> doea anyone know where i can get the source code for tuxeyes?
[06:29] <fragged> =) brb
[06:29] <kahrytan> Whereis the Source list for apt?
[06:29] <fragged> bod_, generally Gentoo repos are a good place for sources =)
[06:29] <WGGMk> kahrytan: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:29] <bod_> fragged, hey, whats a Gentoo repo?
[06:31] <bod_> ???????
[06:31] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, http://pastebin.com/d3dc4f34c
[06:31] <baalsgate> hi is there a specific place where the user is setup for automatic login to x with mythbuntu ?
[06:32] <bod_> baalsgate, try asking in #mythbuntu
[06:32] <ta1> Pros
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: odd, /dev/sda2            1308        3850    20426647+  83  Linux
[06:33] <ta1> Any Pros/cons for Grub2?
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: says its 20gis
[06:33] <Juzzy`> yearh
[06:33] <WGGMk> *gigs
[06:33] <Juzzy`> but when I look in Computer, it says 10gb
[06:33] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: was this previously unpartitioned space before?
[06:34] <Juzzy`> no
[06:34] <Juzzy`> this was my 10gb linux partition
[06:34] <Juzzy`> i simply resize/moved my data partition
[06:34] <Juzzy`> and moved the swap partition
[06:34] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: yes, what im saying is where did the extra 10gb come from? was the NEW 10gb's previously unpartitioned
[06:34] <Juzzy`> and resized the / partition to 20gb
[06:34] <bod_> fragged, whats a Gentoo repo?
[06:34] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, nah it wasn't
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:27am] <UnWorthy> it was the strangest thing
[06:35] <Juzzy`> the new 10gb came from space i freed up
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <xwin> HAL.DLL? May be you tried to install Ubuntu ?
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> yes
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> !!
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <xwin> yeap!
[06:35] <UnWorthy> [1:28am] <UnWorthy> what what?!
[06:35] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <bod_> !enter | UnWorthy
[06:36] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:36] <WGGMk> !spam
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[06:37] <Juzzy`> !askthebot wtf
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[06:37] <WGGMk> lol
[06:37] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:37] <Juzzy`> !askthebot Why can't I see my extra 10gb on my / partition now that i've resized it?
[06:37] <Juzzy`> ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:37] <Wyrmul> I am trying to get grub to boot from my second hard drive.  I have added http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54180/ to my menu.lst.  If I unplug my linux drive my windows drives boots just fine.  any Ideas?
[06:37] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: sorry to say bud, im stumped. if you resized the appropriate things, then i dont see why it would not be registering.
[06:38] <Juzzy`> hmm
[06:38] <Juzzy`> cheers anyway
[06:38] <Juzzy`> might just see how i go about re-installing ubuntu
[06:38] <Juzzy`> I just wanna play TF2 on ubuntu :P
[06:38] <WGGMk> hehe
[06:38] <Juzzy`> If I can do that, I can pretty much say goodbye to windows ;)
[06:38] <WGGMk> I play GW's on Ubuntu nicely
[06:38] <Juzzy`> yeah
[06:38] <Juzzy`> i've got CS:S running on it without a problem
[06:38] <Juzzy`> wine is win :P
[06:39] <WGGMk> it has come a long way for sure
[06:39] <Th3Count> Hello, I've been searching the forums and can't find the answer to my problem. This problem has occured on 2 computers for me, Once was a C2D6300, 4gb Ram, Geforce 8800 GTS-640mb, X-FI Platinum, mobo: Intel DG965WH. and on my new build same hardware but a C2Q6700 and an Intel DG33TL. installing using 7.10 amd64 alternate cause i don't see one that says specific for intel. installs fine via text mode but when it tries to boot i get
[06:39] <Th3Count> an error saying 'Failed to allocate mem resources' I have pulled all the ram tried w/1 stick at a time and same thing
[06:39] <zezu> can linux mount software raid0 made with windows admin. disk util. panel ?
[06:39] <Juzzy`> Considering I can play CS:S on my laptop at the same fps in unbuntu under win as i can in windows
[06:42]  * Juzzy` downloads ubuntu alternate to begin reinstall
[06:44] <Juzzy`> Wow, quiet in here
[06:44] <Juzzy`> You guys must really like these times
[06:45] <WGGMk> yea ill say..
[06:45] <soneil> it's 6am.  it oughta be quiet
[06:45] <Juzzy`> Its 5:15pm here
[06:45] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:45] <soneil> yeah, I have this real arrogant thing going where I just assume GMT is the "right" timezone :)
[06:45] <Juzzy`> :P
[06:45] <WGGMk> 1:45 AM here
[06:46] <Juzzy`> WGGMk, don't you have to work tomorrow?
[06:46] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: yup.. 2nd shift..
[06:46] <Juzzy`> oh
[06:46] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: not due in for 12 hours
[06:46] <Juzzy`> easy stuff then
[06:46] <Juzzy`> I'm on annual leave :P
[06:46] <robierto> question: i need to improve my keyboarding skills.  does anyone know where i can find the finger placement for each key?  i downloaded a bunch of typing programs but they don't show you how to place your hands and such.  Any help would be appreciated
[06:46] <Juzzy`> so you came into #ubuntu?
[06:47] <z1m> I am in need of help connecting to my wireless network.  must be done command line and with wpa.  anyone feel up to the challenge?
[06:47] <WGGMk> lol
[06:47] <WGGMk> ASDF = pinky, ring, middle, index
[06:47] <scorphus> I'm using gutsy and metacity won't run after I'm logged in, please help.
[06:47] <WGGMk> JKL;= index, middle, ring, pinky
[06:47] <WGGMk> SPACE = thumbs
[06:47] <Juzzy`> robierto, http://www.electronicsshowplace.com/images/isimages/DH64331.jpg
[06:47] <soneil> robierto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_typing   (seriously, they have a good map)
[06:48] <Juzzy`> Just change to dvorak :P
[06:48] <naitse> how do i shut down the Xserver
[06:48] <WGGMk> zlm: is there a reason it must be done with command line?
[06:48] <WGGMk> naitse: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:48] <Juzzy`> /etc/gdm/init.d stop
[06:48] <Juzzy`> DAMNIT I WAS GETTING THERE
[06:48] <WGGMk> lol
[06:48] <naitse> cool thanks !!
[06:48] <Juzzy`> And I got it wrong :(
[06:48] <WGGMk> need sudo though Juzzy`
[06:48] <Juzzy`> true
[06:48] <z1m> wggmk:because I am running the server release and have nothing else
[06:48] <Juzzy`> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:49] <Juzzy`> What kind of server runs wireless?
[06:49] <WGGMk> zlm: your connecting wirelessly with a server??? seems odd
[06:49] <Juzzy`> SNAP :P
[06:49] <z1m> a personal use one
[06:49] <robierto> soneil, very nice
[06:49] <robierto> thanks
[06:49] <WGGMk> zlm: im not sure i can help you via command line..
[06:50] <Juzzy`> I haven't got my wireless working on ubuntu yet, its on the list of todos
[06:50] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line... any ideas whats goin on here
[06:50] <z1m> wggmk would you consider yourself generally good with wireless?  any help would be good because Ive followed tutorials and now dont know what to do
[06:50] <sapperjanko1> any idea on y it comes up with write protection
[06:51] <WGGMk> zlm: with a GUI to use, yes "generally" good.. i would recommend against serving via wireless though
[06:51] <appcine> hello. how do I find a package using apt-get? like, I know that I want to install "psycopg", but it's not called excactly that..
[06:51] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: 7.10 + restricted drivers manager shoudl get your wireless going very easily
[06:51] <clarke8> Hi all, Can somebody answer a couple of questions about STARDICT dictionary?
[06:51] <blackvd> this is off topic but I was just curious if anyone in here knows how to open bash in OSX?
[06:51] <musikgoat> appcine: apt-cache search
[06:51] <appcine> musikgoat: Much obliged
[06:51] <z1m> WGGmk i dont have the option of ethernet where my box is and the sverer is really only going to  be for me to use, if wireless goes down nobody is going to need access anyhow
[06:51] <seon> i have a svn on my server and from my client i can execute a checkout but when i execute a commit i have the message : path_join: Assertion `is_canonical(base, blen)' failed.
[06:51] <robierto> soneil, the map says "From open-source GNU licensed linux software program Ktouch."
[06:51] <soneil> blackvd: /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app
[06:52] <Juzzy`> I have a newish Intel wireless ABGN chipset in my laptop WGGMk ..
[06:52] <appcine> clarke8: Press cmd+space and type in "terminal" in spotlight
[06:52] <blackvd> soneil: thanks
[06:52] <WGGMk> Juzzy`: ahh
[06:52] <scorphus> thanks
[06:52] <robierto> sudo apt-get install ktouch
[06:52] <robierto> oops
[06:52] <robierto> wrong window
[06:52] <appcine> clarke8: or: Applications -> Utilities
[06:52] <clarke8> what for?
[06:52] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: can you pastebin your samba.conf or smb.conf i forget which it is
[06:53] <WGGMk> zlm: couldnt you move the access point?
[06:53] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: pastebin :S
[06:54] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: ?
[06:54] <clarke8>  The question is about group-managing in stardict.I successefuly added the new group, but when I try to drag some dictionaries from the default group to the new one, nothing happens.
[06:54] <z1m> WGGmk no, there ais one machine (not mine) with no wireless hardware and I can't really move my box to it because I am not at my own place and my mother would go crazy on me if I asked her if i could have a computer outside my own personal space (I tend to overflow that kind of stuff often and she doesnt like the mess I leave, much less a permanent "mess")
[06:54] <derek_> hi
[06:54] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: what do you mean with pastebin, im still learning ubuntu here
[06:55] <sapperjanko1> << :( just a n00b
[06:55] <panfist> i have some old computers laying around and I was wondering if anyone had an opinion, which computer would give me better performance, a 2800+ athlon or 3ghz pentium 4
[06:55] <panfist> for playing h264 video mostly
[06:55] <WGGMk> !pastebin | z1m
[06:55] <derek_> when i try to use flash in firefox it wont work and when i install it it still doesnot work
[06:55] <ubotu> z1m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:56] <WGGMk> oopps
[06:56] <clarke8> What is the best channel to ask a question about Stardict?
[06:56] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: did you see the !pastebin
[06:56] <elninja> For some reason, I can't resize windows by dragging on the bottom edge. Only the corners and top, left, and right edge... Any idea what setting would cause this?
[06:56] <derek_> guys flash wont work in firefox
[06:56] <z1m> wait, what am I supposed to be pasting?  I also cant pastebin because I am using two different machines right now.  I dont think that was directed at me though
[06:56] <derek_> help please
[06:57] <WGGMk> derek_: did you install the flash plugin?
[06:57] <WGGMk> z1m: no it wasnt sorry
[06:57] <WGGMk> !pastebin | sapperjanko1
[06:57] <ubotu> sapperjanko1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <derek_> WGGMk i installed it but it still wont work
[06:58] <Juzzy`> derek_, did you just installit now?
[06:58] <sapperjanko1> ahhh, well there ya go, didnt know about that nice little tool
[06:58] <sapperjanko1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54181/
[06:58] <WGGMk> derek_: did you close firefox and reopen it afterwards?
[06:59] <derek_> Juzzy and WGGMk I installed it and followed all the instructions and restarted firefox but it still wont work
[06:59] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> HELP!  First off, I am not a total newb :D ... so here it is:  I was recently messing with trying to fix my monitor's resolution (long story), and have more-or-less returned to how it was before I started.  Now, however, when I click to start Tremulous ... nothing happens.  As in, no errors, no processes, just nothingness, as if I never clicked on anything ... how to make trem go?
[06:59] <WGGMk> derek_: what instructions?? are you using amd64 or x86 ubuntu?
[06:59] <derek_> x86
[07:00] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: are you trying to write to the directory "My Files"
[07:00] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: yes
[07:00] <derek_> WGGMk i installed the plugin but when i try to view a page it says i need to install the plugin buy when i press it, it says it is already installed
[07:00] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: try changing the line "create mack =" to "create mask ="
[07:01] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: that should be my /var/www folder
[07:01] <WGGMk> derek_: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[07:01] <derek_> WGGMk ill try it
[07:02] <WGGMk> derek_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:02] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: hmmm, didnt see that typo LOL
[07:02] <derek_> ok
[07:02] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: 2nd eye's are often those of gold
[07:02] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: lemme know if it resolves the issue
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> quick question
[07:04] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: On my vista box it comes up saying "You need to have permissions to perform this action"
[07:04] <derek_> WGGMk it said purge was not reconized as a command
[07:04] <WGGMk> Em3raldMcSquizzy: what is Tremulous? have you tried to run it in terminal?
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> How do I restart my apache server from the console? I changed the php.ini a bit.
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> my localshot
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> localhost*
[07:04] <WGGMk> TheBuzzSaw: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:04] <sapperjanko1> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:04] <TheBuzzSaw> That's right. Thank you!
[07:05] <WGGMk> derek_: standby
[07:05] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: lol just a n00b but workin the codes out ;)
[07:06] <WGGMk> derek_: purge is most definatly a paramater for the remove command
[07:06] <pawan> hi
[07:06] <pawan> how to install equilizer in audacious
[07:06] <nemilar> suuup
[07:07] <nemilar> audacious has a built-in equalizer
[07:07] <nemilar> it's the same as the winamp one, really
[07:07] <derek_> WGGMk i did it this is what it says
[07:07] <WGGMk> derek_: the enter line should be "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:07] <derek_> Download done.
[07:07] <derek_> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[07:07] <derek_> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[07:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: have you restarted samba since you made the change??
[07:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko1: if not.. "testparm" then "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[07:08] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: restarted AND stopped and started
[07:08] <UnWorthy> so it's quite common for ubuntu to destroy the hal.dll
[07:08] <UnWorthy> google ubuntu hal.dll
[07:08] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: Ubuntu HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WINDOWS OR HAL.DLL
[07:09] <UnWorthy> what do you mean?
[07:09] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: LIKE THIS WAS EXPLAINED BEFORE.. THIS IS A WINDOWS ERROR
[07:09] <UnWorthy> who are you trying to convince?
[07:09] <sapperjanko1> WGGMk: back in a min, im just gunna go n jump on the server in the shed, and the other comp there for irc
[07:09] <UnWorthy> that happens when ubuntu is installed...
[07:09] <UnWorthy> yeah it is a windows error
[07:09] <UnWorthy> that happens when I install ubuntu
[07:09] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: reword your statement
[07:09] <bazhang> UnWorthy: please visit ##windows
[07:10] <soneil> UnWorthy: that happened when you changed your partition layout.    why you changed your partition layout is totally incidental
[07:10] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: UnWorthy: so it's quite common for ubuntu to destroy the hal.dll
[07:10] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: Ubuntu.. has DONE NOTHING to Windows
[07:10] <UnWorthy> lets say it's not the first time
[07:10] <bazhang> offtopic UnWorthy
[07:11] <UnWorthy> who the F are you?
[07:11] <speeddemon8803> !offtopic
[07:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:11] <UnWorthy> the offtopic police?
[07:11] <speeddemon8803> !language
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: perhaps you should of shrank your Windows partition inside of windows to give space for Ubuntu, hence not effected your windows hardware layout
[07:11] <vinicius> anyone knows how to make VIM scroll lines like gedit, kedit or notepad (by viweing lines, not by file lines)
[07:11] <vinicius> ?????
[07:11] <soneil> Curious, does ubuntu have ntfs-write out of the box yet ?
[07:11] <UnWorthy> I think it's because I put ubuntu on the 2nd partition of the 2nd hard drive
[07:12] <WGGMk> soneil: 7.10 does
[07:12] <UnWorthy> not on my primary hard drive with xp on it
[07:12] <robierto> UnWorthy: is microsoft employee
[07:12] <UnWorthy> but a storage drive
[07:12] <UnWorthy> haha ok mexican
[07:12] <bazhang> robierto: heh
[07:12] <UnWorthy> go learn to type
[07:12] <UnWorthy> lil ho
[07:12] <WGGMk> !language
[07:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:12] <bazhang> UnWorthy: please stop
[07:12] <UnWorthy> ah yi yi me need to learn to type
[07:12] <robierto> UnWorthy: i was just joking around you don't have to be rude
[07:13] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:13] <onats> lol
[07:13] <UnWorthy> you got burned
[07:13] <UnWorthy> now you say sry
[07:13] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:13] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: this is a support channel.. keep it that way
[07:13] <UnWorthy> dude
[07:13] <UnWorthy> Could it be....
[07:13] <UnWorthy> that I
[07:13] <Kheldar^^> /proc/sys/vm/bdflush dont exist on my ubuntu server installation, how to enable the parameter?
[07:13] <robierto> UnWorthy: u are rude
[07:13] <speeddemon8803> You can get removed...you do know this right?
[07:13] <bazhang> !enter | UnWorthy
[07:13] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:14] <jedimasterk> Is it worth upgrading from 7.05 to 7.10, or wait for 8.05
[07:14] <WGGMk> 1 could only pray speeddemon8803
[07:14] <UnWorthy> installed it to the secondary hard drive and not the primary with xp on it?
[07:14] <speeddemon8803> its worth it jedimasterk
[07:14] <speeddemon8803> well worth it
[07:14] <UnWorthy> it's 7.04
[07:14] <soneil> jedimasterk: personally, I'd go from 7.04 to 7.10, if only because upgrading one version to the next is usually cleaner than skipping a version
[07:14] <bazhang> jedimasterk: 7.04 to 7.10 may be worth it for you; if you want long term support then 8.04 will have it
[07:15] <WGGMk> derek_: are you still here??
[07:15] <robierto> UnWorthy: i am only asking about typing here because i am competent enough to have a perfectly functional and stable gutsy without ruining my partitions
[07:15] <UnWorthy> lets hope they make a distro that doesn't distroy hal.dll
[07:15] <UnWorthy> I MADE A FUNNY! LOL
[07:15] <Brinson> 7.10 has compiz built in so its much prettier. Why not upgrade? With ubuntu its really easy.
[07:15] <pawan> how to install equilizer in audacious
[07:15] <derek_> WGGMk Im here
[07:15] <UnWorthy> so you are dual booting with xp robbi?
[07:16] <jedimasterk> Ubuntu shipped me 7.04 cds instead of the 7.10 I asked for.
[07:16]  * Brinson still thinks unworthy should try wubi. :-p Ubuntu Ultimate is just a package of apps you can apt-get, isn't it?
[07:16] <WGGMk> derek_: have you removed flash ??
[07:16] <robierto> UnWorthy: absolutely
[07:16] <UnWorthy> are they both on the master?
[07:16] <UnWorthy> primary drive?
[07:16] <derek_> WGGMk there was a bug but i looked on the forums and found a fix
[07:16] <robierto> UnWorthy: ubuntu is on slave
[07:16] <UnWorthy> I tried that it didn't work
[07:16] <derek_> thanx for the help though
[07:16] <jedimasterk> I heard 7.10 had nvidia driver problems
[07:16] <UnWorthy> it distro-ed my hal.dll
[07:16] <WGGMk> derek_: ahh aight, very welcome
[07:17] <UnWorthy> I must be retarded...
[07:17] <WGGMk> !report
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about report - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <UnWorthy> you know cause ubuntu worked fine...
[07:17] <bazhang> UnWorthy: if you have issues then that is likely on you; there are plenty of tutorials on how install a dual boot and numerous folks do it successfully
[07:17] <robierto> UnWorthy: never had any issues like that so i can't help you
[07:17] <UnWorthy> you guys with dual boots do you use grub for the loader?
[07:17] <tumbleweed05> omg. ubuntu with gnome and compiz rocks
[07:17] <Brinson> Anyone here use Wine-Doors?
[07:17] <robierto> UnWorthy: first time i heard something like that and yes grub
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> just replaced it with a hacked copy of XP. and i'm glad i did.
[07:18] <UnWorthy> doesn't ubuntu come with gnome?
[07:18] <WGGMk> PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> unworthy: yup
[07:18] <UnWorthy> so whats the big deal?
[07:18] <derek_> WGGMk just for next time here is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[07:18] <Brinson> Wine Doors seems to have things like Call of Duty...is it downloading a pirated version for me or what?
[07:18] <UnWorthy> thats like say windows xp with media player is awesome!
[07:18] <sapperjanko> WGGKm: I get these errors coming up doing testparm... Unknown parameter encountered "server sting" "null password" and also "create mack" and with create mack, when it brings up the conf, it says create mask, and i have restarted the service a couple of times now
[07:18] <WGGMk> derek_: thanks mate
[07:18] <bazhang> UnWorthy: which was installed first?
[07:18] <tumbleweed05> lol shut up.
[07:18] <UnWorthy> xp
[07:18] <UnWorthy> lol :P
[07:19] <jedimasterk> Will upgrading to 7.10 mess up my Automatix 2
[07:19] <UnWorthy> gotcha!
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: you are a bit quirky dood
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ?
[07:19] <soldats> !automatix | jedimasterk
[07:19] <ubotu> jedimasterk: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[07:19] <UnWorthy> are you coming on to me?
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: your personality
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: i think i love you
[07:19] <UnWorthy> meet me in #xxxpass later ;)
[07:19] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: standby, im gonna compare my config to yours.. what is your unltimate goal on write permissions?
[07:19] <bazhang> UnWorthy: if you describe your issue with some precision and refrain from the jibes you will get some help
[07:19] <robierto> UnWorthy: ok
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ok
[07:19] <UnWorthy> ready?
[07:19] <foibles> for some reason flash isn't working
[07:19] <UnWorthy> baz?
[07:19] <foibles> i can't watch youtube and such
[07:20] <foibles> is something wrong with the repo firefox flash plugin?
[07:20] <bazhang> foibles have you read the topic?
[07:20] <soldats> !flashissues | foibles
[07:20] <ubotu> foibles: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:20] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: what ya mean unltimate goal on write permissions]
[07:20] <Th3Count> is there a problem with the current distro of Ubuntu and Nvidia 8800 GTS chips?
[07:20] <foibles> bazhang, i had not, thanks
[07:20] <sapperjanko> !n00b
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n00b - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the install you have is dual boot correct? what is not booting? ubuntu or windows
[07:20] <tumbleweed05> thanks ubotu. i was wondering that too.
[07:21] <sapperjanko> !bot
[07:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:21] <Brinson> extract the tar file and put libflash.so or whatever in the firefox plugins directory...I think that's all the installer does, isn't it?
[07:21] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: who do you want to be able to write to the directory? hint: its easier to lump everyone in a group instead of to specify individual user's
[07:21] <sapperjanko> im shocked that ubotu dont know what a n00b is
[07:21] <Sevensins> Hello all ...can someon tell me if it is possible to create a list of all actaaull installed packages on a system to make it easy to reinstall it the way i want it configured?
[07:21] <bazhang> dpkg -l
[07:21] <soldats> download tar extract and install via the terminal using the directions on adobes site
[07:21] <Brinson> !newbies
[07:21] <UnWorthy> I installed ubuntu on the 2nd partition of my 2nd hard drive (storage, NTFS) created a swap and fat32 partiton with the feisty fawn live cd...installed pulled it out...install finished..and grub came up loaded ubuntu...I restart to go into XP and hal.dll is gone...so I get my brother in law to help me...we do a fixboot, we try to expand hal.dl_ from the xp disk in recovery console...nothing worked had to format, reinstall and ubuntu didn
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newbies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <soldats> !noob > sapperjanko
[07:22] <Brinson> !newbie
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newbie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <Brinson> !noob
[07:22] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:22] <UnWorthy> t work after that...had to delete it
[07:22] <pawan> hi
[07:22] <Brinson> haha, it knows something about them.
[07:22] <bazhang> Brinson: you can /msg ubotu in private please
[07:22] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: well i only have 2 users set up atm, but i want to have atlease one of the users been only a user to access the /var/www to update the website etc
[07:22] <Sevensins> send me private
[07:23] <Sevensins>  i give you guys some time to think and go for a fag now :)
[07:23] <bazhang> Sevensins: dpkg -l in the terminal
[07:23] <Brinson> sapperjanko: You can do that with groups, but I don't know the details.
[07:23] <Sevensins> oh that was quick
[07:23] <Sevensins> okay
[07:23] <Sevensins> thx
[07:23]  * Rabiddog heads off to IDLE in #edmonton-lug
[07:24] <sapperjanko> soldats: what the hell is the bot goin on bout in the IM box
[07:24] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you installed ubuntu on a ntfs partition?
[07:24] <UnWorthy> bazhang:I went to #windows after eveyone told me to go there...because my problem was not with ubuntu......supposedly...and one of the guys there said "you tried to install ubuntu didn't you" he said he had the same thing happen he had to reinstall too...
[07:24] <Sevensins> so far so good
[07:25] <UnWorthy> do you think it could be I'm not installing it to the primary hard drive...I doubt that could be it...but maybe
[07:25] <UnWorthy> man I need a white russian...
[07:25] <Sevensins> but how do i use the names retrieved now to make it a list of "to install" apps ?
[07:25] <sapperjanko> Brinson: yea thats y i was tryin 2 use it as user... i also do have webmin installed if that helps ya guys out. im still tryin 2 work out how 2 use that also
[07:25] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• ?
[07:25] <adub> how do you use grep to find a certain string of text in a given file
[07:25] <bazhang> UnWorthy: could be an issue; though your explanation is not totally clear--you had an xp install first then installed ubuntu?
[07:25] <odysseas> adub cat /path/to/given/file |grep certain string
[07:26] <Sevensins> find <St> | grep <st.>
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54182/
[07:26] <haofeng94> is this ms sever real?
[07:26] <bazhang> sapperjanko: webmin is not supported by ubuntu have you considered ebox?
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: that should be the only things you need to specify to write to the directory
[07:26] <haofeng94> When will it be launch
[07:26] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: what were the other things 'testparm' yelled about?
[07:26] <bazhang> haofeng94: not really ontopic here
[07:26] <svall> Hello how can i automatically mount a hard drive at start up
[07:27] <Sevensins> svall youve got to aadd it to fstab where all filesystems are listed
[07:27] <adub> odysseas the file im trying to grep it just goes to the next line
[07:27] <sapperjanko> "server sting" "null password"
[07:27] <pawan> hi
[07:27] <Sevensins> read a wiki about that cos thats a huge topic
[07:27] <svall> ok cheers
[07:27] <Sevensins> in short just add mountpount ..type and uid to fstab
[07:27] <adub> i can just cat filename and the text shows but i want to search the file for only the word priority
[07:28] <WGGMk> svall: 2 ways, you can edit 'fstab' or edit 'rc.local' with a script IE: sudo mount /path/of/drive /mount/path"
[07:28] <UnWorthy> yeah xp first then ubuntu
[07:28] <Brinson> Does this IRC have a particular purpose or just general? I only found it because its the default of the IRC client.
[07:28] <tparcina> DHCP IP address, but static DNS server - how to acheeve this?
[07:28] <odysseas> adub cat filename |grep priority
[07:28] <bazhang> UnWorthy: then why would you create another partition with feisty cd?
[07:28] <bod_> is there an admin about?
[07:28] <WGGMk> tparcina: DNS will always be static
[07:28] <UnWorthy> what do y0u mean?
[07:28] <bazhang> bod_: just us grunts ;]
[07:29] <tparcina> WGGMk: DNS is the one that DHCP server has assing it
[07:29] <WGGMk> tparcina: or are you trying to create a DNS server and you have an IP dynamically?
[07:29] <tparcina> WGGMk: I would like to define my own
[07:29] <UnWorthy> I created a ext3 partition for linux, a swap partition and a fat32 osshare partition
[07:29] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: ill check it out, put what u have in there n go from there
[07:29] <bod_> bazhang, i got banned from !ot, but they said it was only 24hrs,, that was a week ago, im still banned
[07:29] <UnWorthy> oh...
[07:29] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the installer will resize your windows install automatically
[07:29] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: lemme know then
[07:29] <UnWorthy> why would I want it to do that?
[07:30] <tparcina> WGGMk: that it correct. I'm getting IP from DHCP server, but I would like to use DNS which I define
[07:30] <WGGMk> tparcina: lets step back for a second. what are you trying to achieve?
[07:30] <Brinson> You get to pick its new size.
[07:30] <UnWorthy> to automate the process as much as possible?
[07:30] <soldats> bod_, state your clame in #ubuntu-ops if noones there just wait
[07:30] <bazhang> bod_: you might go to #ubuntu-ops
[07:30] <adub> odysseas that as well goes to the next line
[07:30] <bod_> well,.,. i would post this in !ot, but it is ubuntu related,.,. can you check this out and let me no what you think
[07:30] <bod_> http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/Bodsda/
[07:30]  * UnWorthy knows why the dude drinks white russians....
[07:30] <odysseas> adub I dont understand what you're trying to do
[07:30] <bod_> bazhang, soldats, cheers,.will do
[07:30] <tumbleweed05> hey how do i do a screenshot?
[07:30] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• why would I let it do that to the windows partition? to automate the process as much as possible?
[07:30] <sisseck> Hi, anyone know of a opensource alternative to mathcad?
[07:30] <soldats> with the screenshot button
[07:31] <bazhang> UnWorthy: I hate to say it but it seems that you have botched the install yourself--the automatic installer obviates the need and or risk of that--also, why not use gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[07:31] <adub> try to print on my screen only one word and all instances of that word in console on my screen using cat and grep
[07:31] <tumbleweed05> soldats: a little more help lol.
[07:31] <tparcina> WGGMk: I would like to get IP address from DHCP server and I would like to use another DNS server, not the one that DHCP server is telling me to use
[07:31] <adub> the command completes goes to next line without output
[07:31] <UnWorthy> no reason
[07:31] <Brinson> the bg would look cooler in a non-small-laptop resolution
[07:31] <WGGMk> tparcina: for what purpose though?
[07:31] <UnWorthy> just was out when I d/l ubuntu
[07:31] <UnWorthy> when I d/l it, it was the newest version
[07:31] <WGGMk> tparcina: im having trouble understanding WHY you would need to do this
[07:31] <odysseas> adub then the word priority isnt in the file
[07:31] <soldats> tumbleweed05, somewhere in the menu there is an option. i dont use gnome  so i dont rememmber eexactly where
[07:32] <soldats> er button
[07:32] <tparcina> I have tried to change /etc/resolv.conf but then when I restart it changes - it receives DNS information from DHCP
[07:32] <shaark> tumbleweed05: Applications->Accesories->Take Screenshot
[07:32] <tparcina> WGGMk: I'm using VirtualBox, and his DNS server doens't work so I have to define the "real" one
[07:32] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: this is weird, put what u had in pastebin n still the same probs
[07:32] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you have a working xp install now? if so, then get the latest 7.10 and let it resize the install automatically--though you can tweak it a bit--much safer that way
[07:33] <adub> odysseas is it case sensitive on grep cat
[07:33] <odysseas> adub yeah
[07:33] <sapperjanko> i still did a testparm n that creat mack still popped up at me
[07:33] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: stupid has it sounds, but you edit the #'s accordingly right?
[07:33] <Brinson> He's trying Ubuntu Ultimate, right...is that a live or alternate install?
[07:33] <adub> yeah i just found that out
[07:33] <Brinson> alternative is a little harder with dual boot because of the lack of the nice UI
[07:33] <WGGMk> tparcina: what do you mean it doesnt work? DNS is like a phonebook of servers, nothing more
[07:34] <bazhang> UnWorthy: it really is as easy as that--dl, burn iso to disk, restart from disk and it will see you windows install and take over from there.
[07:34] <tparcina> WGGMk: do you know what is VirtualBox?
[07:34] <adub> nice thanks odysseas thanks for the heads up on the command line
[07:34] <WGGMk> tparcina: i havent used it.. but its a virtual machine software if im not mistaken
[07:34] <sapperjanko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54183/
[07:34] <bazhang> tparcina: there is also vmware-server if you are interested
[07:34] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, that's correct. problem is that VirutalBox DNS server doesn't work. He doesn't respond to DNS requests.
[07:35] <UnWorthy> I want to try ultimate
[07:35] <UnWorthy> but ppl said it's not so good...
[07:35] <tparcina> WGGMk: it's well documented. So I have to define some public DNS server
[07:35] <UnWorthy> is it because it's unsupported?
[07:35] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: thats all i got in there now under MyFiles
[07:35] <WGGMk> tparcina: are you trying to connect externally to the virtual box DNS?
[07:35] <tparcina> bazhang: vmware isn't open source
[07:35] <bazhang> UnWorthy: then download it; though it is just as easy to install that stuff individually once you have ubuntu in place
[07:35] <bazhang> tparcina: it is in the repos though
[07:36] <UnWorthy> download what?
[07:36] <Brinson> Does anyone here use Ares in wine?
[07:36] <UnWorthy> ultimate?
[07:36] <WGGMk> tparcina: you need to provide more information... where is the DNS.. where are you in relation to the DNS.. how are you trying to access it??
[07:36] <bazhang> tparcina: and for what its worth I have had bad luck with vbox; vmware-server just works here ;]
[07:36] <tparcina> WGGMk: I just need to define DNS server on my machine
[07:36] <nemilar> What's the command to re-configure a package?
[07:36] <nemilar> the dpkg command
[07:37] <nemilar> dpkg --re-configure?
[07:37] <vontux> hi, how would you use command line 7zip to join files you split with it?
[07:37] <Brinson> dpkg-reconfigure
[07:37] <nemilar> ty
[07:37] <WGGMk> tparcina: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:37] <UnWorthy> •bazhang• download what? ultimate? I have it already...or are you talking about the software that comes with ultimate?
[07:37] <tparcina> bazhang: don't know that, but I'm preatty sure it's not open source. Please corect me if I'm wrong
[07:37] <UnWorthy> no it's not
[07:37] <bazhang> UnWorthy: you can download the ubuntu cd, the ultimate dvd or whatever flavor you like--though there is no real advantage to the latter afaik
[07:37] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: hate to do this mate, but i think you need to head to #samba
[07:37] <UnWorthy> afiak?
[07:38] <bazhang> tparcina: but it is free ;]
[07:38] <bazhang> as far as I know UnWorthy
[07:38] <tumbleweed05> could an asus EEE pc run ubuntu and compiz?
[07:38] <UnWorthy> ty
[07:38] <soldats> vontux, man 7zip       the commands and the how to should be there
[07:38] <tparcina> WGGMk: I have edit /etc/resolv.conf but when I restart machine, then DHCP deamon deletes what I have entered there and puts informations that he has received from DHCP server
[07:38] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: yes; see #eeepc
[07:38] <tumbleweed05> thanks bazhang.
[07:38] <bazhang> np
[07:39] <tparcina> bazhang: :) free != free :)
[07:39] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: i cant seem to figure out why you cant write to it.. it could be that /var/www needs sudo to write to it
[07:39] <UnWorthy> which version of VMWare is good for home use?
[07:39] <bazhang> tparcina: but the debil must have his due ;]
[07:39] <WGGMk> tparcina: that is how you edit DNS records.. are you getting a different IP every time your restart your machien?
[07:39] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: i did testparm again, found another 2 typos, but still in there its comin up for "creat mack"
[07:39] <UnWorthy> just messing around no real use...
[07:39] <bazhang> UnWorthy: server most likely
[07:40] <UnWorthy> .... :( I was downloading infastructure....
[07:40] <bazhang> UnWorthy: workstation costs money ;[
[07:40] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: are you stopping samba before testparm?
[07:40] <shaark> how can I configure metacity?
[07:40] <UnWorthy> how about infastructure....
[07:40] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: and i just found there there is 2 creat macks in that conf LOL, ill do the change n see how i go
[07:40] <sapperjanko> NO
[07:40] <tparcina> WGGMk: no, I'm getting allways the same. And I guess I'll do what are you also thinking I should do - define static IP address  :)
[07:41] <Neeku> hi
[07:41] <WGGMk> tparcina: the machine that NEEDS the DNS info, is it a virtual machine?
[07:41] <slash_> no
[07:41] <bazhang> UnWorthy: not sure what you mean by infrastructure--you are going to use this as a home server?
[07:41] <UnWorthy> so guys whats the one stop shop for open source goodies for ubuntu?
[07:41] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: i just got testparm coming up with NO, i repeat NO ERRORS
[07:41] <UnWorthy> no thats the name of the release
[07:41] <tparcina> WGGMk: can you please tell me where do I define IP addres?
[07:41] <Slart> UnWorthy: synaptic?
[07:41] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: =)
[07:42] <UnWorthy> VMware v3.5 infastructure
[07:42] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, that's virtual machine
[07:42] <soneil> vmware infrastructure is a $2000+ edition of vmware.  I don't think it's really aimed at the home market somehow ..
[07:42] <bazhang> UnWorthy: the software repositories, where almost all of the software we use is kept
[07:42] <WGGMk> tparcina: how is your internet configured? Bridged or NAT?
[07:42] <Neeku> I'm laying music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:42] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: lol but still probs with the write error.. gunna go see if anyone around in the samba
[07:42] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:42] <tparcina> WGGMk: forget it. I'll define static IP address
[07:42] <UnWorthy> $2000 program...
[07:42] <WGGMk> tparcina: whatever
[07:42] <Smeg> can anyone recommend something like networkmanager for windows?
[07:43] <mythtv> is there an install for a realplayer for ubuntu ?
[07:43] <WGGMk> tparcina: im 90% sure its not going to work
[07:43] <tparcina> WGGMk: can you please tell me where I define it? /etc/ ?
[07:43] <UnWorthy> that would be the most expensive prog I'll ever not use
[07:43] <onats> anyone here who has a laptop with working hibernate/suspend?
[07:43] <pawan_> hi
[07:43] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy: ya got ripped off, ubuntu is FREE
[07:43] <mythtv> something to play "rm " files
[07:43] <WGGMk> tparcina: not a directory.. use ifconfig
[07:43] <UnWorthy> I mean never use*
[07:43] <pawan_> how to install rpm file
[07:43] <Neeku> I'm playing music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:43] <tparcina> WGGMk: yes, but that's for one time only. I'll like to change conf file
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: no its not a "1 time only"
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: bring the device down.. and assign a static IP for it.. then bring the device up
[07:44] <Slart> mythtv: I don't know if there is anything in the repos.. but you can get realplayer from their site.. it's not as bad as the windows-version
[07:44] <WGGMk> tparcina: then add the default gw
[07:44] <sapperjanko> Smeg: are you in a clan in australia
[07:45] <bazhang> pawan_: what file?
[07:45] <tparcina> WGGMk: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up ?
[07:45] <pawan_> xmms equilizer rpm file
[07:45] <Neeku> I'm laying music with "audacious" and I've got last.fm; but it doesn't scrobble the songs I play; what should I do?
[07:45] <WGGMk> tparcina: im sorry i misread you standby
[07:45] <Slart> !alien | pawan_
[07:45] <ubotu> pawan_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:45] <pawan_> then
[07:46] <tparcina> WGGMk: route add default gw 10.0.0.1 ?
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:46] <tparcina> WGGMk: ok, thank you :)
[07:46] <bazhang> pawan_: you would be better off using a more modern media player then risking installing an rpm
[07:46] <pawan_> which one
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: as for the gateway and ip.. i cant help you without knowing the network setup
[07:46] <WGGMk> tparcina: apologize about instructing your to use ifconfig
[07:46] <portablejim> is there a way of making an app (and windows) stay on a particular Desktop?
[07:46] <Smeg> sappperjanko: yes
[07:47] <bazhang> rhythmbox, amarok are two names that come to mind pawan_
[07:47] <Aloha> portablejim, make it sticky
[07:47] <tparcina> WGGMk: everything's fine. I'll solve it now :)
[07:47] <tparcina> WGGMk: thank you!
[07:47] <portablejim> how about when it oped it opens to that desktop?
[07:47] <Aloha> portablejim, right click on title and select stick
[07:47] <WGGMk> tparcina: welcome
[07:47] <sapperjanko> Smeg: wouldnt happen 2 be BoTM now
[07:48] <Aloha> portablejim, not sure
[07:48] <tumbleweed05> ok in the cube i put in the gears but want to change the colors of them. how do i do that?
[07:48] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion for that tumbleweed05
[07:48] <tumbleweed05> lol k.
[07:48] <Aloha> portablejim, its probably in window manager settings. i use xfce so i can't really help you with that
[07:48] <mythtv> how do i install a .bin file ?
[07:48] <power788> Why does  this:     for i in `ls *`; do echo "$i"; done;   on the command line not print out each filename properly?
[07:48] <portablejim> Aloha: there is no stick when I right click.
[07:49] <Aloha> portablejim, is there a button on the titlebar that brings down a menu?
[07:49] <shaark> mythtv: ./filename.bin
[07:49] <pawan_> amarok no demux plugin error
[07:49] <bazhang> right click title bar portablejim
[07:49] <Slart> power788: try "for i in $(ls *); do echo $i; done" instead
[07:49] <_ruben> power788: whats 'not properly' in this case?
[07:49] <Aloha> bazhang, he says that doesn't work
[07:50] <power788> _ruben: like it breaks each filename up by the spaces
[07:50] <bazhang> Aloha: that is odd...
[07:50] <_ruben> power788: ow wait .. didnt read properly .. why not use for i in * ; do .....
[07:50] <soneil> power788: are there spaces in any of the filenames?   "for I in *" will probably get you further
[07:50] <tumbleweed05> is there a decent media player out there for ubuntu?
[07:50] <Aloha> bazhang, yeah
[07:50] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: too many ;]
[07:50] <Aloha> tumbleweed05, itunes on wine ;)
[07:51] <UnWorthy> crack smoker
[07:51] <mythtv> says it needs libstdc++.so.5
[07:51] <tumbleweed05> i don't feel like messing with wine.
[07:51] <UnWorthy> iTunes?!
[07:51] <bazhang> not really nice UnWorthy
[07:51] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:51] <UnWorthy> oh sorry
[07:51] <portablejim> not there. There is minimise, maximise, Move, resize, Always on top, Always on visible workspace, Move to workspace right, move to another workspace and Close
[07:51] <UnWorthy> are his feelings sensitive?
[07:51] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: you want movie or music or both in one?
[07:52] <UnWorthy> do they have something like winAMP for Ubun?
[07:52] <power788> soneil: yes there are, but once I do for I in *; how do I use each filename, $i?
[07:52] <tumbleweed05> prefferably both in one.
[07:52] <True_Friend> Hi folks I just wanted to know where the Icons in KDE are located e.g. K Menue Icon (I want to replece the default one but couldn't find the path whrere it is located)
[07:53] <soneil> power788: yes, exactly the same $I.   problem with "for I in ls ..." is that "a file with spaces in it" appears as 6 different matches.   for I in * works as expected
[07:53] <bazhang> this is the gnome channel True_Friend ;]
[07:53] <UnWorthy> hey do they have something like winAMP for Ubun?
[07:53] <dookdook> could someone point me to some resources for webcam capture and programming.  i.e. i would like to create a program to capture (and eventually display) output from the webcam
[07:53] <bazhang> #kubuntu may help though True_Friend
[07:53] <cvd> Audacious, xmms
[07:53] <Aloha> UnWorthy, XMMS
[07:53] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: xxms
[07:53] <WGGMk> xmms lol
[07:53] <UnWorthy> ty
[07:54] <bazhang> xmms is waaay old though
[07:54] <Aloha> WGGMk, almost ;)
[07:54] <WGGMk> Aloha: ill get it next time haha
[07:54] <UnWorthy> well I like to have a music player...and a movie player...
[07:54] <freyyr> UnWorthy: VLC
[07:54] <cvd> vlc
[07:54] <Aloha> UnWorthy, VLC or mplayer are good choices
[07:54] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:54] <bazhang> heh
[07:54] <pawan_> hi
[07:54] <woodsoul> moc
[07:54] <WGGMk> VLC is a very good choice
[07:54] <UnWorthy> what for music?
[07:54] <cvd> vlc
[07:54] <freyyr> amarok
[07:54] <woodsoul> moc
[07:55] <woodsoul> lol
[07:55] <bazhang> amarok ;]
[07:55] <freyyr> amarok for music all the way
[07:55] <UnWorthy> thats for music?
[07:55] <bod_> i second amarok
[07:55] <UnWorthy> I thought that was video?
[07:55] <WGGMk> Banshee is my personal fav
[07:55] <bazhang> woodsoul: support question?
[07:55]  * Aloha has never used amarok. my sound card doesn't even work heh
[07:55] <Aloha> stupid ISA bus ;)
[07:55] <woodsoul> moc - console music player :]
[07:55]  * bod_ thinks Aloha needs a new sound card
[07:55] <bazhang> aha
[07:55] <UnWorthy> woo....man this drink is like all vodka...
[07:56] <Aloha> bod_, i'm open to donations ;)
[07:56] <UnWorthy> supposedly melatonin and alcohol don't mix....
[07:56] <UnWorthy> would anyone know?
[07:56] <Aloha> UnWorthy, #AA?
[07:56] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: try and keep it PG-13 bud
[07:56] <bazhang> UnWorthy: instructive but #offtopic
[07:56] <bod_> Aloha, ive got a 20 year old sound card you can have,.,. but its a bit primitive
[07:56] <UnWorthy> instrutive?
[07:56] <Aloha> bod_, does it work with ubuntu?
[07:56] <UnWorthy> instructive*
[07:56] <UnWorthy> LOL
[07:56] <UnWorthy> dude
[07:56] <bod_> Aloha, errm,.,. it struggles with winbugs 98
[07:57] <UnWorthy> melatonin is the chemical your brain makes to tell you your tired
[07:57] <Aloha> bod_, i'm taking that as a no? ;)
[07:57] <tumbleweed05> says amarok is designed for kde.
[07:57] <tumbleweed05> how about gnome?
[07:57] <freyyr> it runs fine on gnome
[07:57] <UnWorthy> and vokda is made from potatoes...how bad can THAT be??
[07:57] <UnWorthy> :P
[07:57] <bazhang> UnWorthy: why not get some sleep and come back then--this is a support channel
[07:57] <sapperjanko> GEEEE, heaps of ppl on the samba channel, but no1 talking
[07:57] <cvd> hey, usb wireless is working in ubuntu?
[07:57] <Aloha> sapperjanko, thats IRC for you ;)
[07:58] <UnWorthy> I need some support!
[07:58] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: your talking in a public chat about using alcohol and pills.. this is totally unrelated to any SUPPORT topics.. and you should keep this questions to private chats and not here
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol.
[07:58] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[07:58] <bod_> Aloha, i havent actually tried it with Ubuntu, but i doubt it,.,. it workes fine for windows 3.0
[07:58] <sapperjanko> Aloha: yea when ya need help on a package, no1 is around to help out, they all RUN
[07:58] <sizzle> hahah that sucks
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:58] <Aloha> sapperjanko, its all fun and games until someone actually needs assistance ;)
[07:58] <bod_> !lol | UnWorthy
[07:58] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[07:58] <UnWorthy> lol
[07:59] <UnWorthy> sry I put lol right after that msg....
[07:59] <sizzle> I would help but I just started with ubuntu today vista sucks
[07:59] <Aloha> bod_, you can ship it if you want shipping might be a tad expensive though ;)
[07:59] <soneil> bod_: most cards that age are sb16-compatible, and appear to work with anything that has an isa slot.  they rock.
[07:59] <sapperjanko> OMG really
[07:59] <cvd> you dont have to use vista, use xp
[07:59] <bod_> UnWorthy, no worries,.,.;)
[07:59] <bluefoxx> hi, i have this old thinkpad im trying to boot  from cd on so i can use ubuntu on it, after having done some rather drastic repairs[soldered some stuff on its motherboard] but it will only boot from floppy. also it tells me "master IDE drive channel fail" and "configurement failure". what should i do, i heard theres a floppy i can make to boot from CD on older machines...
[07:59] <Aloha> sizzle, yes it does. Vista did wonders for the apple and linux marketshare
[07:59] <sapperjanko> hmmm we can go haha, ubotu didnt say we couldnt HAHA on there own
[07:59] <sizzle> right
[07:59] <UnWorthy> I think this shouldn't be sooooo PG-13 at 3am eastern...am I wrong?
[08:00] <bod_> Aloha,its probably not worth the shipping cost
[08:00] <bazhang> !ot | UnWorthy
[08:00] <ubotu> UnWorthy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:00] <soneil> UnWorthy: It's Breakfast TV time here.  the internet isn't on EST.
[08:00] <bod_> soneil, ok,.,. but this is one of the first public sound cards ever released
[08:00] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: all walks of life from different parts of the world are all not residing in the 3 AM Eastern time zone
[08:00] <Aloha> bod_, probably not ;)
[08:00] <sizzle> I am about to start a hacking class in school so we have to know a little about linux
[08:00] <cvd> i want to be a op
[08:00] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, you know this is the internet, its a different time all over for everyone...
[08:00] <UnWorthy> I need the alcohol cause my wisdom teeth are coming in and I need the melatonin to help me sleep
[08:00] <UnWorthy> wheres the crim
[08:00] <UnWorthy> e
[08:00] <UnWorthy> it's quite harmless
[08:00] <ldd> ff
[08:00] <bazhang> !install | bluefoxx
[08:00] <UnWorthy> but I'msorry....
[08:00] <ubotu> bluefoxx: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:01] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <sapperjanko> !e | UnWorthy
[08:01] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[08:01] <unagi_> does anyone here run kde
[08:01] <soneil> bod_: fair enough.  after trying to get some soundblaster audigy monstrosity working, I just miss the old ISA sb16's is all :)
[08:01] <bazhang> sapperjanko: I think you want !b ;]
[08:01] <UnWorthy> oh hey....about my hardware working with ubuntu?
[08:01] <_ruben> unagi_: the ppl in #kubuntu most likely do
[08:01] <unagi_> yea
[08:01] <unagi_> and they arent answering
[08:01] <unagi_> so i thought id try here
[08:01] <unagi_> thanks
[08:02] <UnWorthy> will my soundblaster audigy 2 ZS work?
[08:02] <bluefoxx> can i get a link to the floppy for booting from cd?
[08:02] <UnWorthy> I've heard about the time it takes to get wireless cards working..
[08:02] <bod_> soneil, ;)
[08:02] <UnWorthy> will my soundblaster audigy 2 ZS workon ubuntu?
[08:02] <cvd> googleit
[08:02] <bod_> likely
[08:02] <Aloha> UnWorthy, wireless works pretty well. my linksys card works good
[08:02] <bazhang> !floppy
[08:02] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:02] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy, its best just 2 have ya router next 2 ya box
[08:02] <UnWorthy> cool ahola thats what I have
[08:03] <bazhang> hmm
[08:03] <UnWorthy> the 801g?
[08:03] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, probally, most things work without any or much trouble, drives seem to just be able to be pluged in
[08:03] <sapperjanko> !sex
[08:03] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[08:03] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: you mean 802.11g
[08:03] <UnWorthy> and ATi video cards?
[08:03] <UnWorthy> yes
[08:03] <UnWorthy> ty know it all :P
[08:03] <bod_> !enter | UnWorthy
[08:03] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:04] <bluefoxx> UnWorthy, ati is fuzzy in linux
[08:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation bluefoxx
[08:04] <UnWorthy> I'm taking a+ i SHOULD know that
[08:04] <bluefoxx> bazhang, ty
[08:04] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: im not a know it all.. its just information take it as you will
[08:04] <Aloha> bluefoxx, whats best video card for ubuntu? Nvidia?
[08:04] <shaark> UnWorthy: some issues with ati drivers and hibernate
[08:04] <UnWorthy> what part of :P didn't you understand?
[08:04] <bluefoxx> Aloha, pretty much
[08:04] <UnWorthy> who hibernates....thats for bears
[08:04] <cvd> nvidia
[08:05] <soneil> UnWorthy: and laptops
[08:05] <shaark> UnWorthy: laptops
[08:05] <UnWorthy> true dat
[08:05] <UnWorthy> I'm sad my geforce 6600gt burned out...
[08:05] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: sorry im not familiar with implied expressions via text
[08:05] <Aloha> well technically desktops hibernate too, depending on power settings
[08:05] <sapperjanko> !hibernate | UnWorthy
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <bluefoxx> bazhang, will that work in an text based browser?firefox kills my uptime for some reason[as soon as i exit it my system crashes]
[08:05] <UnWorthy> lol kk GG
[08:06] <Carbonflux> there is also a issue with Audigy 2 cards and VLC which no one wants to admit too, that card works fine with other players but with VLC you get cracking a poping etc
[08:06] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: im acctually just a clever AI BoT for this chat room
[08:06] <UnWorthy> .....thats no es bueno
[08:06] <bod_> UnWorthy, please, this is not AIM
[08:06] <bazhang> bluefoxx: that is something I am not sure about--does this computer have an ethernet port?
[08:06] <pablocpg> hello, i have a trouble, i can't acces to firefox, i remove and install again and it says :could not initialize the browser's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory
[08:06] <sapperjanko> !ati | UnWorthy
[08:06] <ubotu> UnWorthy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:06] <sizzle> does ubuntu have a program like cain and abel
[08:06] <mythtv> can i get the missing libstdc++.so.5 some how ?
[08:06] <pablocpg> i don't know how to solve it some body can helpme please
[08:06] <UnWorthy> why is this not aim?
[08:07] <UnWorthy> what did I do?
[08:07] <bod_> pablocpg, mark firefox for complete  removal in synaptic, then apply,. then install again
[08:07] <bluefoxx> bazhang, the one im trying to boot from?not built in, but i have a pcmcia ethernet adaptor on it
[08:07] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: LOL yea, u can talk back tho... ubotu cant
[08:07] <mythtv> is there a command like yum provides ?
[08:07] <UnWorthy> I said "no es bueno?"
[08:07] <soneil> pablocpg: uninstalling & re-instaling won't remove your user profile.  you might want to look for that (I think it's in ~/.firefox/ or ~/.mozilla/) and try moving that out the way
[08:07] <pablocpg> bod_, i did that but is the same problem
[08:07] <bod_> UnWorthy, just try and keep the lol,kk,GG, to a minimum
[08:07] <WGGMk> mythtv: google libstdc++.so.5 pacakages.. and look for and ubuntu page.. alternativly you can use getlib.. its on the forums somewhere.. sorry i dont have the link
[08:07] <bazhang> bluefoxx: the minimal install might do for you; see !minimal
[08:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: thats just my Artifical Inteligence programming hahaha
[08:08] <pablocpg> soneil, i should remove that?
[08:08] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: equiped with typo's and misinformation on occasion
[08:08] <UnWorthy> I find the joining and leaving every 2 secs more annoying than a "lol kk"....but thats just me....
[08:08] <pawan> hi
[08:08] <soneil> pablocpg: I'd move it somewhere else.  if it doesn't fix the problem, you can just move it back again.  nothing lost
[08:08] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: AHHH smart bot, LOL thats y u couldnt help me all the way, bc u was at the end of ya program for samba :P
[08:08] <UnWorthy> [3:08am] mbamford (n=mbamford@75.156.95.69) has joined. «1117 people»
[08:08] <bazhang> UnWorthy: take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
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[08:09] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: yea, i need upgrades.. unfortunatlly im community maintaned pacakge
[08:09] <bod_> pablocpg, type    sudo apt-get check    to make sure your dependencies arent broken
[08:09] <UnWorthy> right
[08:09] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: which isnt really up-to-date atm
[08:09] <bluefoxx> bazhang, im not currently trying to install, as all the laptop hardisks i own at the moment are dead[clicked out] and i just want to boot it to see if my repairs worked, the cmos batt inside was snapped off and i had to re-solder it back on, it boots but wont boot cd
[08:09] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: bit like them IBM and Apple ads u see on TV huh
[08:10] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: lol
[08:10] <bazhang> bluefoxx: wow that sounds serious--not sure how you can go about that not having had a floppy drive for nearly a decade ;[
[08:10] <sapperjanko> UnWorthy: if i remember, u can turn on/off the SYSTEM messages, and u wont see ppl coming n going then
[08:10] <pablocpg> soneil, the result is :
[08:10] <pablocpg> Reading package lists... Done
[08:10] <pablocpg> Building dependency tree
[08:10] <pablocpg> Reading state information... Done
[08:10] <sapperjanko> !lol | WGGMk
[08:10] <ubotu> WGGMk: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:11] <bluefoxx> bazhang, i know i heard somewear about a floppy disk that will switch the boot to the cdrom drive for booting CDs on older systems
[08:11] <bod_> pablocpg, ok thats fine
[08:11] <howtoo> what's eth1:avah NIC for?
[08:11] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: out of the 10-15 screen names that appear on my chat box.. you are there roughly 5 times..w hich would mean you are chatting 50% of the time i receive messages.. which is more annoying then hearing people leave and enter
[08:11] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: sorry i just had 2 rub that in there for ya
[08:11] <pablocpg> bod_, so what should i do to fix it?
[08:11] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: hehe
[08:11] <tokok> WGGMk: he left
[08:11] <bod_> pablocpg, dunno,.,. im thinkin
[08:11] <WGGMk> tokok: but for how long
[08:11] <bazhang> indeed
[08:11] <soneil> bluefoxx: is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto   what you're looking for ?  ("I can not boot from my CD-ROM drive but I can read from it")
[08:12] <sapperjanko> OH so we all gunna see some quite time now he has gone
[08:12] <pablocpg> soneil how can i go to ~/.firefox?
[08:12] <WGGMk> pablocpg: "cd ~/.firefox
[08:12] <odysseas> pablocpg cd ~/.firefox
[08:13] <bluefoxx> soneil, mayhaps... i shal check it out
[08:13] <cvd> home then ctrl+h
[08:13] <bod_> pablocpg, are you installing normal firefox 2.0.0 or 3.0.0?
[08:13] <pablocpg> wggmk, i did that, but the folder doesn't exists?
[08:14] <bluefoxx> soneil, errg..."404 not found" when i click the d/l -. -;
[08:14] <pablocpg> bod_, the firefox that is in the add soft from ubuntu
[08:14] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: with my samba, when i go into Webmin and have a look at that server it has the folder there and comes up like this.....MyFiles 	/var/www 	Read/write to travis,mark,group mark,group travis
[08:14] <sapperjanko> Read only to all other known users
[08:14] <Casey> Anyone know a way to disable my CD eject button?
[08:14] <bod_> pablocpg, yer,. but both versions are in my synaptic,.,. use synaptic, and make sure your trying to use 2.0.0
[08:15] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: can you SSH into your server?
[08:15] <bluefoxx> Casey, short of physically taking it out with a de-soldering kit of some sort, i dont know
[08:15] <Casey> :/
[08:15] <pablocpg> bod_, is the 2.0.0.11
[08:15] <sapperjanko> thats the same as telnet hey
[08:15] <cpk1> is there a more comprehensive wireless card list out there other than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless+cards&titlesearch=Titles
[08:15] <bod_> WGGMk, can you check the firefox folder,.,. its definately not in ~/.firefox
[08:16] <cpk1> buying a wireless for my server/router and want one guarenteed to work
[08:16] <sapperjanko> !SSH
[08:16] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:16] <bod_> pablocpg, ok, yer thats the right one
[08:16] <WGGMk> bod_: try "locate firefox"
[08:16] <Ububegin> Hei guys, i have installed apache2.2 from the synaptic manager... But I want the apache2.0 version instead.... how do i go about that
[08:17] <WGGMk> bod_: nice catch.. should be ~/.mozilla/firefox
[08:17] <bod_> WGGMk, thougt so,.,. dont locate it unless you want alot of reading,.,.theres firefox components all over my disk
[08:17] <sapperjanko> ahh im gunna have an hour break all, gunna go throw me T-Bone on the bbq
[08:18] <WGGMk> bod_: hehe.. sorry about the misinformation
[08:18] <bod_> anyone know why i just get a black screen after i press install,.,. im trying ubuntu 7.10 on an IBM thinkpad
[08:18] <soneil> my bad.   my stab at ~/.firefox was an educated guess because I don't have any GUI linux boxes anymore :/
[08:18] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: do you have SSH setup on your server or no?
[08:18] <Jakke77_> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/
[08:18] <WGGMk> bod_: your trying to use the livecd?
[08:19] <bod_> WGGMk, no worries,. i remember looking for it once before,. so i tried ur cd ~/.firefox and didnt get anywhere,. and because its installed by default it has to be in the same place on his machine
[08:19] <bazhang> bod_: which thinkpad? have you seen thinkwiki?
[08:19] <bod_> WGGMk, yer
[08:19] <bod_> bazhang, its a black one,. no,. can you gimme a link?
[08:19] <WGGMk> bod_: do you get to the desktop or just the boot splash with options?
[08:19] <gluonman> Can one record webcam sessions in kopete?
[08:19] <bazhang> bod_: ha a black one--model number?
[08:19] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: well i must have it all set up if i just downloaded putty and was about 2 connect :P
[08:20] <bod_> WGGMk, boot splash then i selected the top option (install) now 10 mins later i have a black screen
[08:20] <bluefoxx> soneil, so the link [https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto ] is what im looking for but this comp im on allready runs ubuntu, are there linux unstructions? i dont own windows XD
[08:20] <bod_> bazhang, i dunno,. where is the model no. located,.,. im not laptop savy im afraid
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: do you know how to give additional booting options? i believe its F6
[08:20] <bod_> WGGMk, yer
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: add these lines "noapic irqpool noirqdebug"
[08:20] <bazhang> bod_: should be near the bottom of the screen
[08:20] <soneil> bluefoxx: dd if=theimage of=/dev/yourfloppy  (I don't know what devices floppies are, and you really, really want to doublecheck it before you splat data across it)
[08:20] <WGGMk> bod_: then hit enter and try that
[08:21] <bod_> bazhang,  T22
[08:21] <bod_> WGGMk, hang on gotta restart it
[08:21] <soneil> bluefoxx: dd replacing their rawrite instruction
[08:21] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, tyvm X3
[08:21] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: if you can ssh into your server with 1 of the user accounts your trying to write to the /var/www directory with.. then cd /var/www and try "mkdir test"
[08:22] <bod_> WGGMk,  by add these lines,. do you mean,.,. copy exactly what you wrote?
[08:22] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: if it tells you that you dont have permission then samba wont let you write there either because it still defaults to the User account permission ultimatly
[08:22] <sapperjanko> well i have apache installed, and i can connect 2 the test webpage they have
[08:22] <soneil> bluefoxx: I can't stress the doublecheck bit enough.  I've written a 1.44Mb image over the front of a harddrive before.  it made me cry.
[08:22] <sapperjanko> as there is already a folder in there that i can see
[08:22] <DrDerek> anyone recommendations for web-server security testing?
[08:23] <WGGMk> bod_: yes/no.. if your on the top option.. Start/Install.. press F6 and you will see some lines already written.. just add what I wrote to the end of it and hit enter.. ("noapic irqpoll noirqdebug")
[08:23] <bluefoxx> soneil, ouch, it wasnt your main hdd was it?
[08:23] <soneil> bluefoxx: one and only
[08:23] <bazhang> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T22 bod_
[08:23] <sapperjanko> WGGMk yea ya not wrong, cant write
[08:23] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: no no.. can you login remotely with command line.. IE: ssh <username>@<ipaddress> (from command line or putty)
[08:24] <bod_> WGGMk, bazhang, cheers guys,.,. i gotta go to school now,.,. but il be back in about 6 hours r so,.,.lol,.,. cya
[08:24] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: try changing your web directory to a folder that is WORLD writeable
[08:24] <WGGMk> bod_: did it work?
[08:24] <WGGMk> bod_: you cant keep me in suspence
[08:24] <bluefoxx> soneil, eek, that had to hurt[i think i would cry too, given 60 gigs of video and 20 of games, 7 of music], BTW, how do i find the device path for my floppy?
[08:25] <bod_> WGGMk, dunno yet,. bazhang, whats a S3 savage chip?
[08:25] <kaiz> hi people I have a problem for running ubuntu 7.10 live or ubuntu 7.10 server. Actually I tried to install the last one but after chooseing safe vga it gives me "[34.294861] PCI cannot allocate recource region 0 of device 0000:00:09.0" and then it starts loading but hangs. I think that is some hardware support problem, but anyway I can't get out of that situation. Any suggestions?
[08:25] <bazhang> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_T21 this is what you really want bod_
[08:25] <bod_> bazhang, ty once more,.,. whats a S3 savage chip,.,.do i have one?
[08:25] <bazhang> bod_: need the alternate cd and follow instructions on that second link
[08:25] <WGGMk> bod_: best to listen to bazhang, using extra boot options can get messy
[08:26] <bazhang> must be bod_
[08:26] <bod_> bazhang, ok,.,. il pull that down,. while im at school,.,. ty
[08:26] <soneil> bluefoxx: I'm pretty sure it's /dev/fd* ... my favourite is to put a floppy in, then file -s /dev/thatdevice and see if the floppy starts making fun noises.  it's harmless if it's wrong.
[08:26] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, that sounds good
[08:26] <bod_> WGGMk, its,.k ,. i kinda understand what those extra thingies do
[08:26] <sapperjanko> back later all, gunna go have tea
[08:26] <WGGMk> bod_: try bazhang's method first though
[08:26] <bazhang> WGGMk: that page is full of boot options ;] you are in the right here
[08:27] <WGGMk> bazhang: oh yea? go me then lol
[08:27] <tumbleweed05> ok. need some help with rhythmbox.
[08:27] <bluefoxx> soneil, ok, got it, its /dev/fd0
[08:27] <tumbleweed05> shows my itunes shared library on my mac but doesn't bring up any of the music.
[08:27] <soneil> bluefoxx: I impress myself.  I haven't had a floppy drive since 1998 :)
[08:27] <bazhang> such as kopt=root/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off apm=on WGGMk ;]
[08:27] <bluefoxx> soneil, [strangly my floppy disk drive is about 10 years old and it still works great, dead silent too]
[08:28] <bod_> WGGMk,  too late,.,. i started yours a few mins ago,.,. but i think its hung
[08:28] <pablocpg> exit
[08:28] <tumbleweed05> anyone?
[08:28] <soneil> bluefoxx: it was never the drives that irked me.  it was finding doghair inside any disk that held valuable data
[08:28] <bazhang> tumbleweed05: you should know by now to give more info ;]
[08:29] <amol1> hi to all ,i have run this command ##udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda | grep DRIVER   it showing two different drivers are used by disk i.e. "sd" "scsi"..why two different driver it is showing for same device?
[08:29] <ivan_> can i ask java lib questions in this channel?
[08:29] <Neeku> in windows we had "ctrl+alt+delete", what keys do this in ubuntu?
[08:29] <bazhang> you can ask... ;]
[08:29] <soneil> these little usb sticks have changed my life.  they'll survive being digested by pets.
[08:29] <ivan_> Neeku: ctrl+backspace i think
[08:29] <odysseas> Neeku top
[08:29] <Neeku> ivan_: no
[08:30] <amol1> Neeku:same but you have to enable it in inittab file
[08:30] <ivan_> Neeku: that will reset the window manager
[08:30] <bazhang> to restart X?
[08:30] <cvd> ctrl+alt+backspace resset
[08:30] <jekil>  i need a list of all ubuntu default usernames that be setted in /etc/passwd, there is one?
[08:30] <kaiz> hardware support anyone?
[08:30] <Neeku> I want to see the list of task being run at the time and quite any of them I want
[08:30] <bazhang> ctrl alt bkspc
[08:30] <bluefoxx> soneil, lol, i have cats but that was living with my parents, i moved out last year and live with my grandfather now, no pets here[no fuzzy kitties but there i had no awesome computer to learn from and give me a career, lol], anyways, thanks for the help, ill give my new disk a try and let you know if it worked
[08:30] <bod_> bazhang,  im lost,.,. can you give me a link to the 7.10 ubuntu alternate download
[08:30] <ivan_> cvd: yea thats it didn't want to try =)
[08:30] <bazhang> top Neeku
[08:31] <Neeku> bazhang: top?
[08:31] <Neeku> bazhang: what do you mean?
[08:31] <WGGMk> Neeku: right click on your tasbar and go to "add to panel" then select system monitor
[08:31] <bazhang> or htop neeku but you have to install it--run top from the terminal and ye shall see ;]
[08:31] <WGGMk> Neeku: it will add a system tray icon similar to Windows Task Manager
[08:32] <ivan_> Neeku: do u want to see proc. running ?
[08:32] <bazhang> !alternate | bod_ you should know this by now ;]
[08:32] <ubotu> bod_ you should know this by now ;]: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[08:32] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download bod_
[08:33] <bod_> bazhang, i no what it is,. i didnt no where to get it,.,. the ubuntu site isnt very searchable,.,. cheers,. cya later
[08:33] <bazhang> bye
[08:33] <Jakke77_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[08:33] <Neeku> WGGMk: ahhaa! thanks a lot
[08:33] <WGGMk> bod_: on ubuntu.com when you are about to download the CD.. there is check box for "Download Alternative CD"
[08:33] <WGGMk> Neeku: welcome
[08:34] <WGGMk> nvm
[08:34] <WGGMk> sapperjanko: you still there??
[08:34] <cjones__> where is the sudoers fiel ?
[08:35] <cjones__> where is the sudoers fiel ?
[08:35] <cjones__> oops sorry
[08:35] <cjones__> file
[08:35] <soneil> cjones__: /etc/sudoers   but I recommend using visudo.  it'll try it's best to stop you shooting yourself in the foot.
[08:36] <WGGMk> aggree
[08:36] <cjones__> soneil
[08:36] <WGGMk> 'd
[08:36] <soneil> cjones__: (messing up sudo can leave you in a very sticky situation)
[08:36] <cjones__> soneil i have aroot account and dont want sudo enabeled for other accounts
[08:36] <Neeku> WGGMk: another problem! I can't find the process that doesn't let me eject my dvd
[08:36] <WGGMk> cjones__: keep in mind the root account is disabled in Ubuntu out of the box
[08:37] <Neeku> how can I find it out?
[08:37] <WGGMk> neeku: there's a process STOPPING you from ejecting your CD? this sounds unlikly
[08:37] <cvd> PR here?
[08:37] <jekil>  i need a list of all ubuntu default usernames that be setted in /etc/passwd, there is one?
[08:38] <WGGMk> cjones__: sudo is ONLY enabled for the original user when installing ubuntu for the first time
[08:38] <WGGMk> cjones__: I would recommend against using root for ANYTHING
[08:38] <Neeku> WGGMk: yeah. when I want to eject it, a message pops up that an application doesn't let it be ejected
[08:38] <Paolinho> Neeku, is the dvdrom-drive mounted ?
[08:38] <cjones__> wggmk sudo passwd root turns it on
[08:38] <soneil> cjones__: if you don't need sudo fullstop, I'd just rename sudoers to sudoers.orig or something.  that way if the proverbial hits the fan, you've a quick-fix in singleuser boot
[08:38] <Neeku> Paolinho: yes
[08:38] <Paolinho> Neeku, try sudo umount /media/cdrom
[08:39] <Paolinho> (or any other path, that leeds to your cdrom-drive)
[08:39] <WGGMk> cjones__: i know.. but you should NOT use it.. its not good security practices
[08:39] <WGGMk> Paolinho: not having hte CDROM mounted wouldnt stop it from opening
[08:39] <cjones__> if i cant brake my box ill never learn how to fix it
[08:39] <Alamue> Howdy, anyone know of any software that can be used with my HTC 6700 Pocket PC? Palm OS Devices does not work.
[08:39] <bazhang> cjones__: famous last words ;]
[08:39] <cjones__> ive also heard that sudo is not good sec pratice
[08:40] <Neeku> Paolinho: how can I find what the path is?
[08:40] <WGGMk> cjones__: these are just words of the wise.. root is locked for a reason... you can achieve the same via "sudo"
[08:40] <Neeku> (instead of cdrom)
[08:40] <cjones__> i can always reinstall
[08:40] <cjones__> this is just a learning box
[08:40] <cjones__> thanks guys for the help
[08:41] <Paolinho> Neeku, less /etc/fstab and then look for your cdrom
[08:41] <WGGMk> cjones__: gluck
[08:41] <soneil> If you want trial by fire, any unix will give you all the rope you need.  just don't expect people to recommend it :)
[08:41] <bazhang> heh
[08:41] <rcuhljr> anyone got a minute to help a complete linux newcomer out?
[08:41] <bazhang> may as well throw automatix and envy on top
[08:42] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: shoot
[08:42] <iambernie> Hello, is possible to make a shared folder of a dvd/cd device if there is no cd/dvd in it?
[08:42] <rcuhljr> setting up kismet, and I'm looking to install new drivers for my wireless card
[08:42] <WGGMk> iambernie: you can share the mount path, but it wont go anywhere if there's no media inserted
[08:43] <rcuhljr> since I believe the default ones are my current stumbling block.
[08:43] <Neeku> Paolinho: "not mounted"
[08:43] <Paolinho> Neeku, and you can't eject it?
[08:43] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: what is kismet? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:43] <Neeku> yeah
[08:43] <rcuhljr> 7.10 x64
[08:43] <rcuhljr> Kismet is a wireless network monitoring software.
[08:43] <rcuhljr> it just passively listens and detects networks
[08:44] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: have you tried restricted-drivers-manager?
[08:44] <Neeku> Paolinho: the dvd has some probelems so it cant be read. now i want to eject it but something doesn't let me
[08:44] <bahman> Hi everybody :)
[08:44] <iambernie> WGGMk: Do I have to do that in the shell, because I can't use the GUI to make the dvd device a shared folder if there's no cd in it. (using smb btw)
[08:44] <rcuhljr> WGGMk: Can't say that I know what that is
[08:45] <Paolinho> Neeku, very strange, the only idea I got now, is to reboot your system and get it out before booting...
[08:45] <WGGMk> iambernie: you can make a share pointing to the mount path of the drive your sharing... edit the smb.conf file..
[08:45] <cvd> the roms has a small hole, out something in it
[08:45] <Neeku> oh no!
[08:45] <Miesco> Whats better Debian or Ubuntu
[08:45] <Paolinho> Neeku, I saw my system hang some time ago with an unreadable cdrom
[08:45] <soneil> Neeku: hdparm -L 0 /path/device should manually drop the lock flag.   it shouldn't be needed tho
[08:45] <Neeku> Paolinho: can't I find the application from the system monitor?
[08:45] <cvd> ubuntu
[08:45] <iambernie> WGGMk: Ok, thanks.
[08:45] <bazhang> Neeku: what about opening a cd burning app and then choosing eject from that?
[08:45] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: click System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[08:45] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2_i386.deb & apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu4.1_i386.deb  ..  the diff is ubuntu2.2 vs ubuntu4.1 ...
[08:45] <rcuhljr> yeah just found it nosing around
[08:45] <bahman> I have a problem with my Firefox in Ubuntu gutsy... when the ubuntu updated, firefox couldn't work with all my AddOns
[08:46] <Miesco> Whats you Ununtu user's opinion on Debian?
[08:46] <WGGMk> rcuhljr: does it say that wireless firmware is enabled?
[08:46] <bazhang> bahman: what version of firefox
[08:46] <rcuhljr> the only thing it found so far is my video card.
[08:46] <WGGMk> Miesco: without Debian there is no Ubuntu
[08:46] <bazhang> Miesco: you ask this in #ubuntu?
[08:47] <cvd> ubunut try to make it more easy? i dont know
[08:47] <bahman> dear bazhang I thinks its now 2.11
[08:47] <Miesco> Word around is people in #Debian think they are better
[08:47] <soneil> Miesco: that's really difficult to get an unbiased answer to.  especially in here :)   but personally, I love debian for their thoroughness, and ubuntu for their fixed & predictable release schedule.   but I'm not a desktop user, and you know what they say about everyone having as*cough*opinions ..
[08:47] <bazhang> bahman: what version of ubuntu and what addons
[08:48] <wyrmul> I am trying to set the group of a folder?  I cannot determine the command.
[08:48] <WGGMk> Miesco: Debian vs Ubuntu is kinda pointless
[08:48] <mohshami> hey guys, how can I enable the progress bar in the command line ftp client?
[08:48] <Paolinho> wyrmul, chgrp
[08:48] <Ububegin> It cant be diff version of ubuntu rite... since they both released in 2007.. is it the diff kernel versions
[08:49] <Miesco> soneil: Okay thanks, I have used Debian since forever and Ubuntu seems to be more up to date (more releases), I dont know, i'll probably just buy a laptop with Ubuntu already on it and keep this desktop Debian
[08:49] <WGGMk> Miesco: my suggestion is to try both
[08:49] <Ububegin> Miesco: Do Ubuntu vs Vista instead... :D
[08:49] <netgear> when installing ubuntu restricted-extras i get an error code (1) from sub process /usr/bin/dpkg how do i fix this?
[08:49] <wyrmul> Paolinho: k thanks
[08:49] <Miesco> Ububegin: You think vista or ubuntu is better?
[08:50] <bahman> bazhang Gutsy, and all my AddOns could work up tp ver 3.0 FF
[08:50] <Ububegin> Miesco: what do you think ... :D
[08:50] <soren> Does anyone have a "AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+
[08:50] <kaizoku> What is CONFIG_X86_PAE=y for?
[08:50] <Miesco> Vista makes me want to cut my wrists with dull glass
[08:50] <soren> Does anyone have a "AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+" CPU?
[08:50] <kaizoku> Is that an ubuntu specific option?
[08:50] <mohshami> Miesco: Ubuntu hands down
[08:50] <bazhang> more of a firefox issue bahman
[08:51] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2_i386.deb & apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu4.1_i386.deb .. the diff is ubuntu2.2 vs ubuntu4.1 ...
[08:51] <Neeku> soneil: what should I write instead of /path/drive ?
[08:51] <Ububegin> whats the diff between apache2-mpm-prefork_2.0.55-4ubuntu look[2.2|4.1] here _i386.deb
[08:51] <Ububegin> wats 2.2 and 4.1 mean
[08:52] <WGGMk> good night everyone
[08:52] <Miesco> Yea I guess ubuntu is better, but windows aint bothering us, are they?  Why cant we just let them do their thing?
[08:52] <Neeku>  /media/cdrom0 ?
[08:52] <cvd> intel or amd
[08:52] <bazhang> bye
[08:52] <WGGMk> Final Note: Windows sucks..... they are a company built on lies and stolen goods
[08:52] <WGGMk> gnite
[08:52] <WGGMk> lol
[08:52] <WGGMk> !lol | WGGMk
[08:53] <Miesco> WGGMk: Every hour im on windows I turn a little bit more homosexual
[08:53] <bahman> bazhang So how could I solve my problem?!
[08:53] <WGGMk> oh jeeze
[08:53] <rcuhljr> So if I have the .ucode file for the new driver, how do I switch to that driver?
[08:53] <bazhang> bahman: what addons
[08:53] <cvd> = get out of the closet
[08:53] <WGGMk> gluck with that Miesco
[08:53] <Miesco> And a little bit more suicidle too
[08:53] <Ububegin> Miesco: when u using windows, better not get close to u, man...
[08:53] <soneil> Neeku: if /dev/cdrom0 exists, it sounds like a good candidate.   otherwise I'd "grep cdrom /etc/fstab" and see what was detected at install-time
[08:53] <bahman> bazhang Is there any way to go back my previous  version of firefox?!
[08:54] <Miesco> I might rape you then jump into the bath with a windows computer plugged in
[08:54] <soneil> Neeku: it's not /media/anything tho .. they're mountpoints, not devices   (long story)
[08:54] <bazhang> bahman: which version do you want to go back to? 1.5?
[08:55] <cvd> i wonder, when is the day that i can buy OSX and install it in my PC
[08:55] <bazhang> Miesco: please stop
[08:55] <rcuhljr> anyone know how to manually update a driver?
[08:55] <Neeku> soneil: you mean i must use /dev/scd1 ?
[08:55] <kaizoku> Does anyone here know anything about the kernel..?
[08:55] <Neeku> soneil: none works
[08:55] <soneil> cvd: the day apple stop making unholy profit margins on hardware
[08:55] <kaizoku> And whether or not the CONFIG_X86_PAE symbol is ubuntu specific?
[08:55] <Aloha> Miesco, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:56] <FiRaRi> d0131d0131d0131d0131d0131n d0131d0131d0131d0131d0131d
[08:56] <cvd> i dont care if linux is OPen or windows in propietary,  i just like OS's
[08:57] <soren> kaizoku: It's not.
[08:57] <Miesco> I mean, just like 4 hours would only make me a little bit more homosexual, not a lot, if I spent 30 years on it, if I hadent taken a screwdriver and jammed it in my throat, i'd probably be a flamming homosexual
[08:57] <bahman> bazhang Version 2.7
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: Do you know why I might not see it in the vanilla config?
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: *vanilla sources
[08:57] <Neeku> oh my God! Isn't there such an option to find the application preventing this drive from being ejected?!
[08:57] <Neeku> linux sucks
[08:57] <bahman> bazhang 2.7 work in a good way
[08:57] <kaizoku> soren: Is there something else I need to enable first?
[08:58] <Miesco> I need to go to sleep
[08:58] <soren> kaizoku: enable X86_32 and disable HIGHMEM4G.
[08:58] <cvd> just restar the pc man
[08:59] <cvd> and then you can rejected
[08:59] <Miesco> Its 4am here, dont know about you
[08:59] <Neeku> cvd: well, that's not a solution
[08:59] <dondong> Hallo?
[08:59] <tumbleweed05> hi
[08:59] <Miesco> I'll be going to bed now and put an end to all my trolling :)
[09:00] <Neeku> heh! I found and killed the process
[09:00] <Seveas> cs kb Miesco
[09:00]  * Neeku is proud of herself!! :D
[09:00] <mythtv> is there a package that installes the mplayer/codecs.conf ?
[09:00] <Flynsarmy> Why is th eupdate manager offering me updates to kde core libraries if i use Gnome?
[09:00] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras mythtv
[09:00] <soneil> Flynsarmy: have you installed anything at all that uses kde's libraries?
[09:01] <soren> Flynsarmy: Because you've got kde core libraries installed.
[09:01] <kaizoku> soren: I still don't see it.
[09:01] <Seveas> mythtv, mplayer has it in its examples/ folder
[09:01] <usrl> If a website I'm going to only has repos for Debian (Etch, Lenny, Sid) versions, which one would be best to use with Gutsy?
[09:01] <kaizoku> soren: It's not even commented out in .config
[09:01] <Seveas> usrl, a gutsy one.
[09:02] <usrl> Seveas: There is no gutsy repo. Just ones for debian versions.
[09:02] <Seveas> usrl, so download the source package and rebuild :)
[09:02] <usrl> Seveas: No thanks.
[09:03] <kaizoku> soren: Is there anything else that might be blocking it?
[09:03] <thokle> Hey I have a problem I ubuntu can not find basic session when it starts up, so I can only start up i save session mode, is there any one who has an idea of what I can do?
[09:04] <cvd> tomorow is gonna be the day of the linuc desktop
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: You sure you don't have HIGHMEM4G enabled?
[09:04] <kaizoku> soren: Yes, I have  172 CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: There's your problem.
[09:04] <soren> kaizoku: Why do you care about PAE anyway?
[09:05] <kaizoku> soren: What should I have enabled..?
[09:05] <kaizoku> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G?
[09:05] <soren> For instance, yes.
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> http://www.math-linux.com/spip.php?article86
[09:05] <kaizoku> soren: I need PAE because xen won't accept a non-PAE guest kernel.
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> www.math-linux.com nice tutorials
[09:05] <MecSympaTiK> tips and course
[09:05] <soren> kaizoku: Ok.
[09:06] <kaizoku> soren: Oh, thanks!
[09:06] <cvd> the most cheaper A+ cert?
[09:06] <Neeku> any tools for editing mp3 tags?
[09:06] <mohshami> Neeku: Amarok
[09:06] <cvd> EasyTag
[09:07] <bazhang> !info easytag
[09:07] <ubotu> easytag (source: easytag): viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (gutsy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2648 kB
[09:07] <cvd> ubotu
[09:07] <bazhang> Neeku: see above
[09:08] <Neeku> bazhang: can't I do it with right clicking on the song?
[09:08] <Neeku> (seems that I need to switch to root, but I don't know how)
[09:08] <bazhang> Neeku: in amarok?
[09:08] <Neeku> bazhang: no, without that.
[09:08] <cvd> amarok, here, amarok there.. who use amarok nayway
[09:09] <unagi> kde > gnome
[09:09] <unagi> :D
[09:09] <white_eagle> I can't play planet penguin racer, because I enabled those experimental features and now I can't even run the game, I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling but the game still doesn't run
[09:09] <white_eagle> can I fix this somehow?
[09:09] <Neeku> how should i switch to rrot?
[09:09] <Neeku> sudo root ?
[09:09] <Neeku> sudo?
[09:09] <Neeku> none works
[09:09] <white_eagle> Neeku, look
[09:09] <white_eagle> first
[09:09] <white_eagle> logging as root isn't recommended
[09:10] <white_eagle> you need to use the sudo command in the terminal
[09:10] <dgjones> !sudo
[09:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[09:10] <white_eagle> and then enter your admin password
[09:10] <H4ck3rx> Neeku: try this sudo su
[09:10] <Kcaj> Heya
[09:10] <Kcaj> Can I aska kind of non-ubuntu question? :x
[09:10] <white_eagle> ..
[09:10] <Neeku> H4ck3rx: great!
[09:10] <Kcaj> Can't think of anywhere better to ask it ^^ haha
[09:10] <cvd> no
[09:10] <bazhang> Neeku: right clicking works here
[09:10] <dgjones> Kcaj, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <Kcaj> I'm curious if anyone here knows about 401(k) plans and getting dividends
[09:10] <Kcaj> Ah, ok
[09:10] <bazhang> Kcaj: ubuntu is a support channel
[09:11] <cvd> he need support of 401k
[09:11] <tumbleweed05> is there a way i can have a spellchecker system wide? like in os x?
[09:11] <khelll> am using gparted: but all i get is one partition with "unallocated space "
[09:13] <jetscreamer> don't you already have one?
[09:13] <jetscreamer> !info aspell
[09:13] <ubotu> aspell (source: aspell): GNU Aspell spell-checker. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60.5-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 130 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[09:13] <jetscreamer> there are others
[09:13] <ProudBritish> hi all
[09:13] <_GodMasterss_> hi
[09:13] <khelll> am using gparted: but all i get is one partition with "unallocated space " , what's wrong???
[09:13] <white_eagle> I can't play planet penguin racer, because I enabled those experimental features and now I can't even run the game, I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling but the game still doesn't run
[09:14] <cvd> delete the ./ of planet
[09:14] <hk2999> how do i change the panel text color in gutsy. the .gtkrc-2.0 trick doesn't seem to work anymore?
[09:15] <cvd> what time is it there?
[09:15] <hk2999> @time
[09:15] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 31 2008, 09:15:22 - Next meeting: MOTU in 1 day
[09:15] <soneil> where?
[09:15] <cvd> there
[09:15] <hk2999> oh
[09:16] <cvd> @time
[09:16] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 31 2008, 09:16:22 - Next meeting: MOTU in 1 day
[09:17] <hk2999> how do i change the panel text color in gutsy? the .gtkrc-2.0 trick doesn't seem to work anymore
[09:18] <livenicely> i cant copy vcd into my hard drive i have ext3 partioin
[09:19] <BLUG_Fred> HI! Has anyone installed sql-ledger on Ubuntu server here?
[09:19] <livenicely> i cant copy vcd into my hard driver. i have ext3 partition
[09:19] <wyrmul> I am trying to determine how much ram I have installed?
[09:20] <Neeku> is there any other tool rather than amarok which is smaller?
[09:20] <bazhang> livenicely: how are you trying to do it? drag and drop?
[09:20] <Neeku> for editing tags
[09:21] <bazhang> right click is smaller neeku
[09:21] <cvd> why the hell when i select the windows os in the grub, it ask me' are you sure"
[09:21] <saftsack> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/asterisk/bristuff-0.3.0-PRE-1y-p/zaptel-1.2.22.1/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Schluss has someone informations regarding this issue?
[09:21] <Neeku> bazhang: although I did su, it doesn't give me permission to edit that
[09:21] <Shinobi> hey alsa guru's online please?.... i have a realtek ac97 integrated asus sound card on my desktop ubuntu box, i can hear the sound perfectly well but my mic is not working and it cant be tested in sound recorder because that program crashes everytime i try to use it for checking...any help?
[09:21] <soneil> wyrmul: "free -h" is a good start.
[09:22] <bazhang> Neeku: why root? that will come back to haunt you ;[
[09:22] <livenicely> yes
[09:22] <livenicely> drg and drop
[09:22] <Neeku> bazhang: because it says that 'the owner is root'
[09:22] <neeto> so I have ntfs-config installed, and an NTFS drive in my computer, whenever I try to mount it (media/sdb2) it says device busy... I've even tried -o force, and it still says it's busy. Can I get it to stop whatever it's doing and mount already?
[09:22] <bazhang> livenicely: need to rip it
[09:22] <livenicely> and also copy .dat track from vcd and paste it into home folder
[09:22] <snorkel> nick shaark
[09:23] <SleepingSloth> cvd,  haha - probably grub developers little joke
[09:23] <Ububegin> i installed like this ... [sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb] ... however to uninstall i haf to do this [sudo dpkg -r package_name ] May I know what is the package_name ... tks
[09:23] <livenicely> which is best ripper for a vcd
[09:23] <livenicely> and y vcd is not supported
[09:23] <livenicely> dvd has no problem
[09:24] <bazhang> k3b livenicely
[09:24] <livenicely> i have installed k3b
[09:24] <livenicely> i am going to check it
[09:24] <bazhang> then use it
[09:25] <cvd> well ca ya later
[09:27] <cvd> any here has a tux usplash?
[09:28] <tech_m> hello! anybody here who knows how to set-up joomla in ubuntu server?
[09:29] <Brinson> someone just posted an adobe survey on the forum. Everyone should do it. If adobe ported their apps to linux..........
[09:29] <khelll> what is the disk check utility in ubuntu ?
[09:29] <Brinson> I mean, it prolly won't happen, but if we got like every linux user to fill out the survey.
[09:29] <erUSUL> khelll: fsck
[09:30] <bazhang> offtopic Brinson
[09:30] <Brinson> I still don't know what this channel is. Its the default for the X-Chat client I installed.
[09:30] <Neeku> i installed cowbell for tag editing; but I can't find where it's installed
[09:30] <bazhang> ubuntu support not chit chat Brinson
[09:30] <erUSUL> !offtopic | Brinson
[09:30] <ubotu> Brinson: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:31] <erUSUL> !hi | Brinson
[09:31] <ubotu> Brinson: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:32] <tech_m> hello? I created public_html in home folder...change its permission ....but I can´t access it in http
[09:32] <tech_m> anybody here who could assist me?
[09:33] <khelll> am trying gparted and am getting Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[09:33] <Ububegin> tech_m : dont u have to install a server or sumtin for it
[09:34] <orbisvicis> tech_m, did you move it to /var/www/apache if using apache?
[09:34] <tech_m> M usign ubuntu server
[09:34] <Merphy> hi everybody
[09:34] <orbisvicis> yeah thats it then
[09:34] <tumbleweed05> hey merphy
[09:34] <tech_m> I cannot move the folder.. I tried to right click but paste is not highligthd
[09:35] <Merphy> any idea to install modem toshiba machine (toshiba satellite A-100)
[09:35] <orbisvicis> ubuntu server doesnt have an X server ... you shouldnt have a screen
[09:35] <orbisvicis> in console terminal
[09:35] <erUSUL> !dialup | Merphy
[09:35] <ubotu> Merphy: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[09:35] <orbisvicis> cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:37] <tech_m> what do you mean with it?
[09:37] <Merphy> ok thanks
[09:37] <tech_m> m using ubuntu server with gui installed./..
[09:37] <tech_m> so, how could I move the folder there ?
[09:38] <orbisvicis> tech_m, you need root privileges
[09:38] <tech_m> how to do it?
[09:39] <orbisvicis> so, sudo cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:39] <VvWolverinevV> hi does anyone know what package creates a "file:" folder in the home folder?
[09:39] <Ububegin> i installed like this ... [sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb] ... however to uninstall i haf to do this [sudo dpkg -r package_name ] May I know what is the package_name ... tks
[09:39] <orbisvicis> or sudo nautilus -no-desktop
[09:40] <kubitz> VvWolverinev that happened to me i tihnk it was aone of the filesharing Apps did it
[09:40] <orbisvicis> one copies it, one opens nautilus with root permissions
[09:40] <kubitz> I installed a sfew at once so I don't know which
[09:40] <Jakke77_> http://data.exet.nu/flash/pinguin.swf
[09:40] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: it regenerates itself :(
[09:41] <sseNssesSiroSori> hi
[09:41] <kubitz> Ah that didn't happen for me but then I changed all the paths to more suitable ones so if you left the defualt it may have the recreate it to have somewhere to go
[09:42] <BadRobot> hi there
[09:42] <ssenSiroSoriSnes> hi
[09:42] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: ok ill look into it thanks
[09:42] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV was it soon after installing p2p software?
[09:42] <kubitz> I'm just curious
[09:42] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: possibly, i've tried a few this week
[09:42] <tech_m> ububegin<<< I cannot still move the folder there? Please help
[09:43] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV i have a feeling it's either Amule or one of the Gnutella clones if that helps to narrow it down
[09:43] <Ububegin> did u use sudo mv
[09:43] <Neeku> I', sure my password is correct but it says it's wrong and I cant log on as root
[09:43] <BadRobot> i want to install ubuntu on my free and spare partition,so do i have to install it w/o grub or do i have to install grub to the same partition where ubuntu comes.I already have other linux on this box
[09:43] <Neeku> help me
[09:43] <sseNssesSiroSori> hi
[09:43] <BadRobot> just type grep -i 'single white female' /usr2/home/women/* Neeku
[09:43] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: this week, i've tried limewire, ktorrent... i think that's it
[09:43] <Ububegin> tech_m : did u use sudo mv
[09:43] <BadRobot> the best is azureus
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: maybe limewire, i installed abunch of different version of that
[09:44] <Neeku> BadRobot: huh?!!!!!!
[09:44] <tech_m> I tried sudo cp -R ~/public_html /var/www/apache
[09:44] <BadRobot> i just kidding
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> BadRobot: kubitz: i also tried azureus this week forgot about that
[09:44] <Neeku> BadRobot: I see!!!
[09:44] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV ah i think limewire uses the same nets as Amule so it may be that
[09:44] <Neeku> but i need help now
[09:44] <VvWolverinevV> ok
[09:44] <soneil> BadRobot: if you're confident adding another grub entry to your existing system, I'd skip grub on this instal.  you only need one copy going.  two is just going to confuse things
[09:44] <odysseas> BadRobot you can update the existing grub to boot ubuntu
[09:44] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV ah I just stuck with the basic Bittorrent
[09:45] <tech_m> and I checked it...and yeah I was able to add folder apache there...but still I cannot even delete nor add joomla contents there
[09:45] <kubitz> I'm not really a specialist in that field so it was enough for me
[09:45] <tech_m> PLEASE ASSIST>.
[09:45] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: ktorrent is nice, and you can get it from add/remove
[09:45] <BadRobot> how do i update it?
[09:45] <VvWolverinevV> Neeku: azureus is the best bt client on mac os x IMO
[09:45] <BadRobot> sorry i like ubuntu ,but isn't perfect to keep it as my single distro .Odysseas
[09:45] <orbisvicis> tech_m, for more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:46] <kubitz> VvWolverinevV there are just so many aren't there - I was just blitzed by the sheer numbers on offer
[09:46] <odysseas> BadRobot better use ubuntu's grub, it will detect your other linux install and place it in grub so you'll have no problems
[09:46] <BadRobot> thx
[09:46] <VvWolverinevV> kubitz: move to ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <BadRobot> I have pc-bsd on the other parttion
[09:46] <orbisvicis> anyone know how to disable a specific program from starting up ... only when logged on via xvnc?
[09:46] <BadRobot> *partition
[09:47] <soneil> odysseas: until the other system gets an updated grub package, installs to mbr, and everything goes to pot.  he needs to remove grub from one of the two.  ignoring the second won't make it go away
[09:48] <Th3Count> anyone manage to install Ubuntu w/ a geforce 8800GTS from what im reading the cards not compatable
[09:48] <BadRobot> try Linux Mint
[09:48] <bazhang> offtopic BadRobot
[09:48] <BadRobot> it is a Ubuntu based distro
[09:49] <bazhang> and a poor suggestion as well
[09:50] <ethana3> I was wondering about that flash thing
[09:50] <Shinobi> bazhang, u good wiith alsa mate?
[09:50] <ethana3> Dell rolled out Ubuntu on the XPS..
[09:50] <ethana3> Hardy Alpha4 is supposed to come out today..
[09:50] <ethana3> any idea how long I'll be waiting?
[09:50] <BadRobot> Maybe i will work better,i have tried Ubuntu on my friends box and didn't even boot,then install Linux mint and it worked,the happened to other friend Ubuntu works but no other distro in his box
[09:51] <ethana3> yes.
[09:51] <ethana3> it will work much better
[09:51] <ethana3> see, xorg had a bug in it
[09:51] <ethana3> where if you have an integrated gpu
[09:51] <ethana3> and a card
[09:51] <ethana3> it doesn't work
[09:51] <Shinobi> er sometimes for some odd reason the top of all my windows suddenly disappear
[09:51] <ethana3> they fixed it, and those fixes are in hardy
[09:51] <ethana3> that's the window decorator crashing
[09:51] <ethana3> are you using metacity, kwin, or compiz?
[09:52] <bazhang> !hardy
[09:52] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:52] <ethana3> Shinobi: what window manager?
[09:52] <ethana3> ah, got it
[09:52] <ethana3> thank you bazhang
[09:52] <Shinobi> ethana3, ubuntu gutsy
[09:52] <ethana3> hmm
[09:52] <Shinobi> ethana3, compiz
[09:52] <ethana3> does it have neat effects
[09:52] <ethana3> oh, ok
[09:52] <ethana3> lol
[09:53] <Shinobi> :)
[09:53] <ethana3> yeah, emerald must be crashing for some reason
[09:53] <Shinobi> oh ok
[09:53] <Shinobi> how do i bring them back?
[09:53] <ethana3> ..though I really can't tell you why
[09:53] <ethana3> uh
[09:53] <ethana3> I'd run emerald in the terminal
[09:53] <ethana3> but I don't know if you can even do that
[09:54] <Shinobi> i can do everything just that the top of all the windows are gone :/
[09:54] <ethana3> yeah, the window decorations
[09:54] <Shinobi> ethana3, when i run it emerald from the terminal they return lol
[09:54] <Shinobi> thanks
[09:54] <ethana3> oh
[09:54] <ethana3> no problem
[09:54] <ethana3> ;)
[09:54] <Shinobi> but i still need a fix for my alsa
[09:55] <Shinobi> the mic is not working
[09:55] <Shinobi> and the sound preferences program has crashed
[09:55] <ethana3> hmm
[09:55] <ethana3> that's not my area of expertise
[09:55] <ethana3> I use pulseaudio
[09:55] <Shinobi> btwn i think thats whats causing emarald to crash
[09:56] <ethana3> weird
[09:56] <Shinobi> i cant close the sound preferences window :@
[09:56] <daoudi5> -
[09:57] <daoudi5> hello
[09:57] <daoudi5> please someone can help to just reconfigure my keyboard
[09:57] <Shinobi> how can i kill it? i just wont close
[09:57] <daoudi5> because i dont give the right touche
[09:58] <Shinobi> i m gonna reboot now
[09:58] <Shinobi> brb
[09:58] <Kcaj> douche
[09:58] <odysseas> Shinobi ps aux and kill it
[09:58] <erUSUL> daoudi5: System>Preferences>Keyboard  ??
[09:58] <Kcaj> Oh wait, no, touche
[09:58] <daoudi5> for example whan a type "b" it is "bg" which appear
[09:59] <tumbleweed05> well i'm off to bed. night everyone.
[10:00] <BadRobot> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
[10:01] <haptiK> hi is it possible to pass the root password to sudo using a flag
[10:02] <neeto> huh?
[10:02] <neeto> sudo -s you mean?
[10:02] <neeto> oh I see what you mean, nevermind me
[10:03] <haptiK> -s changes the shell env
[10:03] <Neeku> i'm back again :D
[10:04] <bullgard4> What is the reason that Ubuntu does not provide a DEb program package for OmagaT?
[10:04] <Neeku> could you please tell me how to edit mp3 tags? any software rather than amarok? a small sized one
[10:04] <redspike> Hi all, Any one know my my Linux hosts logging " rtc: lost some interrupts at 256Hz. " all the time and my clock in my guests go slow? :(
[10:04] <redspike> iam running Vmware server
[10:06] <erUSUL> Neeku: i use easytag
[10:07] <Neeku> erUSUL: sudo apt-get install easytag ??
[10:07] <erUSUL> Neeku: should work
[10:10] <Neeku> erUSUL: great
[10:10] <Neeku> erUSUL: thanks a lot
[10:10] <joachim_> how do I set my system to boot to command line instead of gnome?
[10:11] <ikonia> joachim_: remove gdm as a startup script from run level 2
[10:11] <ikonia> joachim_: man update-rc
[10:12] <joachim_> how do I check the current update.rc settings so I can put it back after?
[10:13] <joachim_> there's no /etc/inittab
[10:19] <tim167> what command can i use to search for a term inside all te *.txt files on my hardrive ?
[10:22] <dabr> tim167: find / -name "*.txt" | grep whatever
[10:22] <Ce_eXeMpHe_EFh> _lg_di_bdg
[10:23] <Ce_eXeMpHe_EFh> alow
[10:24] <emily> heya, is there anyone here who understands file permissions fairly well?
[10:24] <ewen> well enough :) what's the q?
[10:25] <emily> right, I've installed ubuntu on my vista laptop, got the thing partitioned properly and everything
[10:25] <CO_BANDUNG_23> HI ALL
[10:25] <emily> installed ntfs-3g and and have set up an ntfs partition as home
[10:26] <emily> now, all of the user permissions of all of the files on this ntfs partition are root, and it refuses to change them, whether or not I use sudo
[10:26] <emily> why?
[10:26] <joachim_> emily: does ubuntu support writing to ntfs?
[10:26] <jeroenimo> ntfs-3g does
[10:26] <emily> via ntfs=3g, yes
[10:26] <joachim_> ah
[10:26] <LispWarez> hello all
[10:27] <Johnny_5> y would u want 2 put ubuntu on a ntfs partition to begin with??
[10:27] <joachim_> check your /etc/fstab
[10:27] <emily> I'm putting home on an ntfs partition so that vista and ubuntu can both access the files
[10:27] <LispWarez> can anyone help me, i wanna change over to ubuntu but want to know if i can run some sort of dos emulator in it
[10:28] <jeroenimo> LispWarez: vmware
[10:28] <emily> check the fstab for what?
[10:28] <jeroenimo> or Qemu
[10:28] <emily> I have it open
[10:28] <emily> /dev/sda3 /home ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
[10:28] <jeroenimo> emily: does the ntfs part have write permissions ?
[10:28] <joachim_> the umask for that drive
[10:28] <LispWarez> run vmware in ubuntu?
[10:28] <jeroenimo> LispWarez: sure why not
[10:29] <etfb> LispWarez: VMWare Server is now free (ie zero price, but not Free Software).  I use it to run Windows happily.
[10:29] <emily> does that have the correct write permissions?
[10:29] <LispWarez> seems a bit much for a basic user
[10:29] <pihhan> hello
[10:29] <phuzion> Ok, I've recently moved to Ubuntu from Windows.  My torrent client of choice was, obviously, uTorrent.  I run uTorrent in Wine now, and have imported the saved data from my Windows partition.  Now, of course, the download locations are obviously not appropriate anymore.  Anyone know of a simple way to edit the uTorrent save information so that everything associates with my new linux paths?
[10:29] <Johnny_5> can't u have vista on a i386?
[10:29] <emily> thoughts on the fstab?
[10:29] <emily> /dev/sda3 /home ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
[10:29] <phuzion> Johnny_5, yeah, Vista is supported on i386 architecture
[10:29] <etfb> LispWarez: Download the VMWare Server; follow the instructions to install; fire it up; install Windows on a VM; and you're done.
[10:30] <LispWarez> thats the thing... i dont want windows
[10:30] <jeroenimo> pihhan: just start the new client and make sure it saves the torrents in the same place as where the old ones where ..
[10:30] <Johnny_5> well personally that's what i woulda done...
[10:30] <ewen> LispWarez - you could check out dosbox
[10:30] <LispWarez> yea i looked at dosbox.com but theres nothing listed for ubuntu
[10:30] <joachim_> emily: I have for the options bit on my FAT32 drives: defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[10:30] <nemilar> stop running utorrent in wine
[10:30] <joachim_> though I don't know what all those do... ;)
[10:30] <nemilar> use a linux torrent program
[10:30] <etfb> LispWarez: I created a DOS 7 machine by just installing Win95 and then editing the autoexec so it didn't load Windows...
[10:31] <bullgard4> What is the reason that Ubuntu does not provide a DEB program package for OmagaT?
[10:31] <Johnny_5> err...tqaht's what i ment...man i'm a retard
[10:31] <joachim_> you might want to try adding umask=007 to that comma list of options
[10:31] <ikonia> bullgard4: no-one has packaged it
[10:31] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's that simple
[10:31] <nemilar> bullgard4: what is it?
[10:31] <tim167> dabr ok thanks i'll try it out
[10:31] <LispWarez> i also cant just have a dos OS, need to open an excel spreadsheet (read only) on it too
[10:31] <Johnny_5> freakin' fat32...can't vista use fat32?
[10:31] <etfb> phuzion: ktorrent is pretty good (it's the KDE/Kubuntu one, but of course you can get it regardless of your distro).  Not as good as uTorrent, but close enough.
[10:31] <tokok> does lm-sensors contain HDD sensors? cuz my hdds not detected
[10:31] <pihhan> dont you know someone, how to turn off sound right after login?
[10:32] <Johnny_5> ok i can def tell i need 2 go 2 bed soon...sorry
[10:32] <jeroenimo> pihhan: have a look at deluge-torrent
[10:32] <ikonia> tokok: hdd sensors - in what way
[10:32] <linux1> tokok look at hhdtemp
[10:32] <jeroenimo> pihhan: sorry
[10:32] <phuzion> etfb, if I move clients, that still brings the issue of re-importing over 300 torrents, and setting appropriate download paths
[10:32] <pihhan> tokok: smartmontools are for that
[10:32] <jeroenimo> phuzion: have a look at deluge-torrent
[10:33] <phuzion> jeroenimo, if I move clients, that still brings the issue of re-importing over 300 torrents, and setting appropriate download paths
[10:33] <etfb> LispWarez: for the spreadsheet, Open Office may work.  You may have to manually edit all formulas to use semicolons instead of commas, because the OOo developers are retarded...
[10:33] <jeroenimo> phuzion: well noo..
[10:33] <etfb> phuzion: Do you have the .torrent files?
[10:33] <tim167> dabr when i do find / -name "*.txt" | grep whatever, i get some Permission denied messages, is that normal ?
[10:33] <nemilar> it can prolly read/write fat32, Johnny_5
[10:33] <nemilar> but i doubt it'll install to it
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: no, it doesn't
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php
[10:33] <nemilar> tokok: I _just_ wrote that how-to like a few hours ago.  see the part about hddtemp
[10:33] <linux1> tokok you can get hddtemp to pull the temp and show them with gnome sensor applet
[10:33] <FloodBot1> nemilar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <Johnny_5> cool
[10:33] <nemilar> listen floodbot.  it's too early in the morning for you.
[10:33] <jeroenimo> phuzion: nope... when you set the default download directory you should be fine
[10:34] <phuzion> etfb, yes, I have the .torrent files.  But what you guys aren't understanding is that I have different download locations depending on content type
[10:34] <nemilar> tim167: yeah that's normal.
[10:34] <tokok> thanks guys!
[10:34] <etfb> phuzion: Sounds like you're pretty well a BT superuser though, way out of my league.  The largest collection of torrents I've ever downloaded simultaneously was probably three...
[10:34] <LispWarez> yea i was planning on using open office
[10:34] <nemilar> tim167: if you want to search _everything_ including files only readable by root, do it sudo
[10:34] <jeroenimo> phuzion: yups.... lost me too
[10:34] <tim167> nemilar, ok then !
[10:34] <LispWarez> but still need to run a dos app under ubuntu too
[10:34] <etfb> LispWarez: It's not MUCH less irritating that MS Office, sadly.  But at least it gets updated without costing $$$
[10:34] <phuzion> etfb, I am an administrator on a tracker, I sorta know my way around BitTorrent
[10:34] <LispWarez> at the same time
[10:34] <dabr> tim167: yes because you search all of your drive, but do not have permission for some directories... if your *.txt are all in your home dir, use ~ instead of /
[10:35] <Johnny_5> i never heard of linux using ntfs (not to say it can't be done...just means i never heard about it...) so if u want the best of both worlds (linux & vista) i'd go with a fat32 file system...
[10:35] <pihhan> LispWarez: dosbox is good choice for dos applications
[10:35] <jeroenimo> phuzion: Well I guess you ned to hack the uTorrent config files
[10:35] <etfb> phuzion: Like I said: outa my league.  Sorry, can't help you.
[10:35] <nemilar> Johnny_5: linux has read/write support for ntfs
[10:35] <nemilar> fat32 is junk
[10:35] <phuzion> etfb, thanks for the help
[10:35] <tim167> dabr, thanks
[10:35] <Johnny_5> oh
[10:35] <etfb> phuzion: no wuckers.
[10:35]  * jeroenimo nods at etfb and I'm out too
[10:35] <phuzion> jeroenimo, yeah, that's what I'm thinking to do, but I can't seem to find the encoding type for it :(
[10:35] <LispWarez> pihhan: yea but dosbox on ubuntu... can it be done?
[10:35] <nemilar> fat32 hasn't been the primary windows filesystem since windows98/ME
[10:36] <pihhan> LispWarez: but it is only DOS, no windows at all
[10:36] <Johnny_5> cool...learn something new everyday...i'll try 2 remember that for the future...
[10:36] <Johnny_5> well i guess i'm not much help here today...
[10:36] <pihhan> LispWarez: i am sure it can, it is not distribution related
[10:36] <Johnny_5> i'm goin' 2 bed now...
[10:36] <Johnny_5> later all
[10:36] <msingh> is there a nice gui tool to use to edit /etc/fstab?
[10:36] <etfb> LispWarez: Start again, cos I'm a bat of very little brain.  What is it you want, exactly.  You're starting with Ubuntu but you have some Windows stuff you need to run.  What is it exactly?
[10:36] <LispWarez> which dosbox package would be most suited for ubuntu then?
[10:36] <msingh> LispWarez, nice name
[10:37] <nemilar> msingh: pysdm maybe? donno
[10:37] <pihhan> LispWarez: install dosbox package then, propably in universe repository
[10:37] <LispWarez> ok what i need is a linux box (preferably ubuntu) that can open an excel spreadsheet and run a dos app
[10:37] <joedj> does anyone know where the /bin/arch binary that used to be in util-linux has gone in Gutsy? i can't find it with apt-file
[10:38] <nemilar> LispWarez: oo.o can handle excel...and dosbox, or wine, or vmware, or qemu, or any host of things can take care of your dos apps
[10:38] <phuzion> jeroenimo and etfb either of you guys familiar with wine at all? because I have an idea that might work, I just wanna run it by you guys first
[10:38] <msingh> nemilar, cheers, looks good.
[10:38] <etfb> phuzion: Moderately.  I've got it working for most things, although I'm not ambitious...
[10:38] <pihhan> depends on how complicated are excel spreadsheets, openoffice handles only simple ones
[10:38] <LispWarez> i will see what i can do
[10:38] <pihhan> no macros or like
[10:38] <LispWarez> thanks for the help guys
[10:39] <nemilar> macros are for virii ;)
[10:39] <etfb> pihhan: Changing stuff like IF(A1="","Empty",A1) to IF(A1="";"Empty";A1) will often help.
[10:39] <nemilar> i wonder if gnumeric has better excel support
[10:40] <pihhan> etfb: i dont have excel documents at all, i use oo.o on windows too
[10:40] <phuzion> etfb, ah, someone is helping me in #winehq
[10:40] <etfb> phuzion: Excellent!  I wish there was a #usb channel to help me...
[10:40] <pihhan> etfb: never had need to replace commas in that however
[10:40] <nemilar> one of my articles got front-paged at linux.com :D
[10:40] <etfb> pihhan: Really? Might be an artefact of the way I was importing files... interesting...
[10:41] <etfb> nemilar: You're famous!  Next thing you know, Linus will be calling you up to get you to babysit his kids...
[10:41] <nemilar> haha
[10:41] <pihhan> etfb: i dont know, i have only little spreadsheets with formulas actually
[10:41] <nemilar> he'll come home to find all his computers running windowsME
[10:42] <tokok> wow this IS evil
[10:42] <pihhan> dont someone know, how to turn off sound on login?
[10:42] <nemilar> pihhan: system - preferences - sound
[10:42] <nemilar> just a guess
[10:43] <etfb> I'm having big trouble with USB under Kubuntu Gutsy.  Can anyone advise on how you debug USB connections to find out why some things don't mount properly?
[10:43] <nemilar> etfb: any help in the dmesg?
[10:43] <etfb> I know about lsusb and dmesg and... well, that's about all, actually.
[10:43] <cdealer> etfb, its not mounting ?
[10:43] <etfb> Yep.  Some things do, some don't.
[10:43] <cdealer> etfb, have you already made a lazy umount and tried to remount specifiing the file system ?
[10:43] <nemilar> well what does dmesg say?
[10:43] <etfb> YEt they were fine on Feisty on the same hardware.
[10:44] <erUSUL> etfb: it could be a usb issue or an udev  issue or a hald issue
[10:44] <linux1> pihhan look in /system/admin/accessibility
[10:44] <etfb> erUSUL, cdealer: can you point me to tutorials on that?  Don't want to waste your time...
[10:44] <etfb> Even man pages would do...
[10:45] <pihhan> nemilar: thanks! so simple, what a shame not to find it
[10:45] <nemilar> np
[10:45] <cdealer> etfb, man mount have all about this
[10:45]  * etfb scribbles down notes in a spare Emacs window...
[10:45] <nemilar> what's an emacs
[10:46] <nemilar> is that some sort of devilish contraption?
[10:46] <etfb> nemilar: it's a high-powered multi-platform operating system with one or two text-editing extensions.  Also, a religion.
[10:46] <cdealer> etfb, dmesg will be th  default debug output you will be using to see what happned on the mount action .... remove the device them plug again and type dmesg to see any error report
[10:46] <nemilar> lol, one or two extensions
[10:46] <nemilar> the dang thing can run a web browser
[10:47] <nemilar> oh, lol, you made it a funny
[10:47] <etfb> nemilar: Web browser?  Bah!  It could run the space shuttle!  AND the astronauts would survive a whole lot better...
[10:47] <pihhan> plain text editor with embedded operating sytem?
[10:47] <erUSUL> etfb: do 'sudo udevmonitor' on a terminal and plug a problematic usb device also in other terminal run 'tail -f /var/log/messages' you should see a few/lot msgs appearing on both terminals meaning that the kernel recognice the device and also that udev generates the /dev/files etc
[10:47] <nemilar> i'm half asleep, didn't read your line as a joke
[10:48] <memic> where does the nm-applet save its configuration?
[10:48] <etfb> erUSUL: thanks, that's golden.  Just what I needed.
[10:48]  * etfb scribbles furiously
[10:49] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[10:49] <etfb> Thanks, lads and lasses; that's just what I needed.  Right; off to do some debugging.  AFTER I sleep...
[10:50] <erUSUL> etfb: well we, acolites of the Emacs Church, must help each other in times of need XD. RMS said so
[10:50] <erUSUL> etfb: lol
[10:50] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> how can i get the "@ubuntu/member" at my irc nick?
[10:50] <doctorow> I'm trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using the Update Manager. Update Manager dies while setting up the update with an error about not being able to resolve archive.ubuntustudio.org. I can't seem to resolve this host from anywhere either. Is the host down temporarily? Can I disable the Ubuntustudio installs somehow, or point Update Manager to a mirror?
[10:50] <erUSUL> Kamus_H_Zwisch: by being an ubuntu member of some sort?
[10:50] <etfb> erUSUL: You've reminded me: I really should find an irc.el so I don't keep having to use inferior non-RMSian software.
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> erUSUL: hmmmm
[10:51] <dgjones> !member > Kamus_H_Zwisch (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[10:51] <erUSUL> etfb: ;) well i use irssi (not in emacs) but i'm a sinner XD
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> thank you dgjones
[10:51] <etfb> doctorow (can I call you Cory?  love your site, BTW): I really can't recommend upgrading.  Clean installs are the way to go.
[10:51] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :)
[10:51] <joedj> does everyone else immediately relink /bin/sh to /bin/bash when dash screws them over?
[10:52] <nemilar> no
[10:52] <erUSUL> joedj: no we just run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash'
[10:52] <etfb> joedj: I'd be scared of encountering shell incompatibilities...
[10:52] <erUSUL> joedj: XD
[10:52] <nemilar> mainly because /bin/sh is already linked to bash
[10:52] <doctorow> SUre, etfb! Call me anything you like! I've downloaded and burned a CD, but I'm reluctant to run it, since using the manager is the proscribed method from emperor linux, who sold me this Thinkpad. I want to keep their stuff intact (drivers for the tablet, etc)
[10:52] <pihhan> i dont think so
[10:53] <pihhan> i am sure i dont have /bin/sh linked to bash
[10:53] <nemilar> wait, why is it linked to dash one one of my systems and bash on another
[10:53] <neeto> I am playing CS on one screen, fullscreen, and I switched out and the screen disappeared, how can I get back into it"?
[10:53] <joedj> erUSUL: thanks, that feels nicer =P
[10:53] <pihhan> i have fresh gutsy install and have dash as default shell
[10:53] <etfb> doctorow: Gotcha.  Bugger.  I stuffed up my F->G upgrade.  I suspect they don't test it terribly well.  Short of hand-editing repositories and starting again, I don't know what you'd do.  Sorry!
[10:54] <nemilar> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-08-21 11:51 /bin/sh -> bash
[10:54] <nemilar> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-05-22 23:53 /bin/sh -> dash
[10:54] <erUSUL> doctorow: is ubuntu studio what you have iinstaled? or plain ubuntu?
[10:54] <doctorow> Thanks, etfb - I'm just wondering if archive.ubuntustudio.org is temporarily offline...
[10:54] <doctorow> erUSUL, no, plain ubuntu
[10:55] <FFighter> /join #zope-pt
[10:55] <FFighter> lol... sorry
[10:55] <ikonia> doctorow: ubuntustudio guys live in #ubuntustudio
[10:55] <FFighter> =P
[10:55] <erUSUL> doctorow: if it is plain ubuntu just comment the ubuntu studio repo and make the dist-upgrade without it
[10:55] <neeto> I am playing CS on one screen, fullscreen, and I switched out and the screen disappeared, how can I get back into it"?
[10:55] <doctorow> ikonia, thanks -- I'll go ask them
[10:55] <etfb> neeto: What's CS?
[10:55] <sapperjanko> WGGMk: ya still there me little INFO desk
[10:55] <ikonia> etfb: windows game
[10:56] <pihhan> neeto: how did you switch out?
[10:56] <BenoitH> I think CS is counter strike
[10:56] <neeto> etfb: counterstrike, windows thing
[10:56] <BenoitH> a valve's games
[10:56] <doctorow> erUSUL -- I'm trying to do the update with the Updater, not apt-get, but that's a good idea
[10:56] <etfb> neeto: Ah, that rings a bell (I'm an old fart; I still prefer Tetris).  How are you playing it?  Wine?
[10:56] <neeto> pihhan: I have compiz running, and I wanted to see if the cube worked with it, so I switched workspaces and it's not on the original anymore
[10:56] <neeto> etfb: wine, yeah
[10:57] <etfb> neeto: Woooh!  Welcome to the edges of Linux/Windows compatibility.  That's tricky!
[10:57] <doctorow> OK, I'm going to head over to #ubuntustudio and ask around -- thanks everyone!
[10:57] <neeto> lol, I can still hear it playing in the background
[10:57] <etfb> neeto: Do a Ctrl+Esc and see if its process is still running.  It may have crashed.
[10:57] <pihhan> neeto: check if it is still present as a process
[10:57] <neeto> it is, and it hasn't crashed
[10:58] <neeto> I just want to find the window, wherever it may have hidden itsellf
[10:58] <erUSUL> doctorow: you can comment out the repo and then lauch the update manager
[10:58] <etfb> There should be some way to select a process.  Perhaps via the Ctrl+Esc thingy (it's called ksystemguard under KDE; not sure under Gnome)
[10:58] <neeto> I can still hear people killing each other
[10:58] <pihhan> ok, try every workspace :)
[10:58] <neeto> I'm using gnome, anyone know?
[10:58] <etfb> neeto: Alternatively, you can kill the process from there and restart; would that work?
[10:58] <neeto> Yeah, I tried every workspace, I'm also using compiz and nautilus so
[10:59] <pihhan> try to switch in with alt-tab into it, maybe it will reinitialize screen
[10:59] <neeto> etfb: that's what I just did, but it wasn't the step I wanted to take...
[10:59] <Nubae> hi there... quick question... I'm doing apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, but it fails close to the end with this message: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `!queuelen' failed
[10:59] <tockitj> Q: flash player stoped working after an update? i've tried removing and installing flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <neeto> pihhan: that didn't work either
[10:59] <nemilar> !flash | tockitj
[10:59] <Nubae> it core dumps after that, so can't do dpkg --configure -a
[10:59] <ubotu> tockitj: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[10:59] <pihhan> i dont expect guys in wine was fixing such things
[10:59] <pihhan> so, dont switch screens if you want play :)
[10:59] <nemilar> if you want to game, use cedega instead of wine
[11:00] <neeto> meh, I don't really need a fix... I was just seeing if it worked and it doesn't, I'm not heartbroken
[11:00] <tockitj> nemilar thanks :-)
[11:00] <nemilar> yup
[11:00] <neeto> I'm just glad I can play without windows *shudder*
[11:00] <etfb> I'm out of here.  Must sleep.  Thanks guys.  Good luck getting back to the death and mayhem, neeto!
[11:00] <nemilar> tomorrow is alpha4 day
[11:00] <neeto> etfb: night man, thanks
[11:01] <Nubae> anyone?
[11:01] <cdealer> Im having a problem to set the default gw through dhcp ... I dont know why but my dhcp clients are not geting the default route in the format of 192.168.0.1 but dhcp-server.localhost .. and this is making some problem with conecting on msn and stuff like that.. I tried the option routers 192.168.0.1 in dhcpd.conf but didint worked
[11:02] <BenoitH> nemilar: cedega isn't free ?
[11:02] <nemilar> no it's not
[11:02] <nemilar> it's put out by Transgaming
[11:02] <krabador> hey people, i've a problem with kde graphical effects
[11:02] <krabador> i can't uninstalll
[11:02] <BenoitH> that's suxx :-/
[11:02] <krabador> what can i do?
[11:03] <popey> BenoitH: it pays for continued development
[11:03] <nemilar> well if you want games to work well, and to have support in linux, that's what you get
[11:03] <BenoitH> yes, i know
[11:03] <popey> BenoitH: and licensing that they have to do AIUI
[11:03] <ShaunES> Anyone set up nstx client on ubuntu before?
[11:03] <Nubae> if you want to play games that were released 4 or 5 years ago, yeah
[11:03] <ShaunES> http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html following that
[11:03] <nemilar> they support recent games
[11:03] <tokok> games not work well in cedega just like in wine
[11:03] <nemilar> wrong
[11:04] <Nubae> bah... without tinkering its just as bad as wine
[11:04] <tokok> wine is always newer than cedega
[11:04] <tokok> they slow to update
[11:04] <Nubae> exactly
[11:04] <Nubae> same deal with crossover
[11:04] <nemilar> if you want to play world of warcraft, cedega works great
[11:05] <nemilar> if you wanna play maden 07, works great
[11:05] <Nubae> wow works fine in wine too
[11:05] <BenoitH> you can play to world of warcraft with wine
[11:05] <tokok> if you want play wow, nothing stoppid doing it with wine
[11:05] <nemilar> but then people complain here when something goes wrong
[11:05] <derek01> Do i need to install ubuntu before or after my windows partition to dual-boot
[11:05] <nemilar> with cedega, they buy a subscription, so they complain elsewhere
[11:05] <Nubae> if you're feeling philanthropic, go ahead and purchase membership with cedega
[11:05] <BenoitH> Can we play to half life 2 with wine or cedega ?
[11:06] <Nubae> otherwise use wine
[11:06] <nemilar> there's nothing philanthropic about paying someone for their commercial product
[11:06] <Nubae> there is when u can get wine for free
[11:06] <nemilar> no.
[11:06] <nemilar> philanthropic would be giving money to wine
[11:06] <Nubae> hey, I payed for six months
[11:06] <Nubae> it is like giving money to wine
[11:06] <derek01> Can anyone help- me with my question?
[11:06] <Nubae> thats the whole point
[11:07] <nemilar> no, it's like giving money to Transgaming
[11:07] <Nubae> yes, who code wine
[11:07] <nemilar> no
[11:07] <tokok> nemilar: ok, do you have list of games which work in cedega but not in wine?
[11:07] <nemilar> dude
[11:07] <nemilar> tokok: on the cedega website, or google
[11:07] <stefano_> transgaming has not proggrammed wine
[11:07] <nemilar> Transgaming did not write wine, and if you think that, you're an idiot
[11:07] <Nubae> jeez...
[11:07] <charles> Transgaming is a fork of the wine project
[11:07] <stefano_> nemilar, please watch your language and keep this channel friendly
[11:07] <derek01> Should my ubuntu partition be before or after my windows partition on my Hard Drive?
[11:08] <Nubae> you dont think Transgamming gives their changes back to wine?
[11:08] <nemilar> stefano_: yeah, I know better
[11:08] <nemilar> derek01: doesn't make a difference
[11:08] <BenoitH> derek01, I think it's better after ;)
[11:08] <tokok> nemilar: i said about comparison, not about list of games.
[11:08] <derek01> thank you
[11:08] <evdvelde> hi all,how does one start a software raid after booting (non root partition)?
[11:08] <charles> derek01 although I don't think that it matters all that much if you are using grub as your boot manager
[11:09] <nemilar> I think if you're using the windows boot manager, it will complain if the partition number of the windows drive is too high, actually
[11:09] <derek01> well everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs after i get to the final step on teh install
[11:09] <|WolF1> Question: How to install gcc, is there any command to get it, or any link to help?
[11:09] <charles> evdvelde are you currently booted onto a drive that is going to be in the raid?
[11:09] <stefano_> evdvelde, you dont have to "start" it, you just have to mount it,
[11:09] <nemilar> tokok: to quote you, you said "list of games"
[11:09] <evdvelde> charles: no, it is a log partition for test systems, completely separate
[11:09] <BenoitH> apt-get install gcc ?
[11:09] <nemilar> |WolF1: apt-get install build-essentials
[11:10] <stefano_> |WolF1, install the package "build-essential"
[11:10] <charles> |WolF1 sudo apt-get build-essential
[11:10] <tokok> nemilar: check this to find out all your games work without cedega http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:10] <nemilar> ^^
[11:10] <derek01> anyon
[11:10] <derek01> ?
[11:10] <krabador> hei people, i can't unistal graphical effects in kubuntu gutsy (at startup they run, but from kde menu they're disabled)
[11:10] <stefano_> it's build-essential without the s,
[11:10] <evdvelde> stefano_: i put it in fstab but it does not get mounted and it complains that /dev/md0 has a wrong fs_type when trying to mount. after mdadm -A -s, it works fine
[11:10] <krabador> what can i do?
[11:11] <|WolF1> it says to me E: Invalid operation build-essential
[11:11] <derek01> well everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs after i get to the final step on the install
[11:11] <stefano_> evdvelde, you can put this command in /etc/rc.local then it gets executed at boot
[11:11] <evdvelde> stefano_: i could do that, yes.. just wondering if there was a clean method to autodetect it
[11:11] <stefano_> |WolF1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:11] <evdvelde> i like clean solutions :)
[11:11] <stefano_> evdvelde, no idea, sry
[11:11] <evdvelde> stefano_: np, thx for helping
[11:12] <Nubae> TransGaming halted using code contributed to Wine when the license was changed, though this has resumed recently with TransGaming integrating certain LGPL portions of Wine into Cedega and placing those portions of the source code on their public servers.
[11:12] <charles> sorry evdvelde I don't know either
[11:12] <netgear> anyone having problems with installing ubuntu restricted extras?
[11:12] <evdvelde> charles: thx too :)
[11:12] <nemilar> Nubae: way to quote wikipedia
[11:12] <maltron> I'm trying to read the table of contents on an audio cd, but I can't get cdrdao to read it.  Every other program seems to work fine, including k3b
[11:12] <derek01> Can anyone help me with this,  everytime i try to install ubuntu gutsy it just hangs up after i get to the final step on the install and never does the actual install or partitioning
[11:13] <stefano_> derek01, do you know what mainboard you have?
[11:13] <netgear> derek01: bad memory perhaps?
[11:13] <Nubae> nemilar... u saying thats not true?
[11:13] <nemilar> I didn't say that.
[11:13] <derek01> memorys good
[11:13] <derek01> 2 gb brand new just tested
[11:14] <tokok> (16:09:42) nemilar: tokok: to quote you, you said "list of games"   - and this is not full quote, i said list of games which not work in wine, not list of games which work in cedega (which just mirror wine games list probably)
[11:14] <Nubae> well, point is, give money to transgaming or crossover, u help development of wine
[11:14] <netgear> derek01: hdd bad sectors? how old is the machine?
[11:14] <derek01> and my mobo is an A13G+ AMD
[11:14] <Nubae> codeweavers... sorry
[11:14] <derek01> brand new
[11:14] <Tassinar> Ahoy all.
[11:14] <derek01> dual core
[11:14] <nemilar> ok, i am leaving.
[11:14] <derek01> amd 6000+
[11:15] <yeniklasorr> How can I add a specific value of ram usage limit for an application (especially for firefox, because it is slowing down).
[11:15] <derek01> 500gb hd all sectors that i know of are fine havnt encountered any problems with it until now
[11:15] <tokok> ok he was not able to prove "cedega is better"
[11:15] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: pardon ?
[11:16] <Tassinar_> Oh. "Ubuntu Server" is an alias for "FreeNode". Fine.
[11:16] <derek01> is there a way to manually install through terminal
[11:16] <ikonia> derek01: through a terminal ?
[11:16] <derek01> yea
[11:16] <ikonia> derek01: the alternate cd is a "non graphical" installer
[11:16] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : I want this: Firefox can use 500 MB of ram...
[11:16] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: let the kernel manage your memory - it's smarter
[11:16] <derek01> i cant get a alternate cd at the moment
[11:17] <ikonia> derek01 then no - you'll have to wait until you can get it
[11:17] <derek01> i was hoping to get the install don
[11:17] <stefano_> derek01, while installing, you can press ctrl plus an arrow key to change terminals, in one (i think thr second) there is a detailed list of what the installer does, checking what happes just before it hangs might solve your problem
[11:17] <derek01> stefano: Thank you
[11:17] <stefano_> derek01, i suppose you use the alternate--cd?
[11:17] <FreeDownload> Hi, people.
[11:17] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : But firefox is slowing down and not responding when I open a few tabs or a page that has lots of text.
[11:17] <FreeDownload> Juan from Argentina.
[11:18] <derek01> stefano: no im no the livecd right now
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: then there is probably something else causing the issue
[11:18] <FreeDownload> Is there anybody from southamerica ?
[11:18] <stefano_> derek01, oh. download the alternate cd and install from it, it's not muich harder and it may work a lot better
[11:18] <FreeDownload> (sorry about my english)
[11:18] <yeniklasorr> ikonia : I have a fresh install Ubuntu
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr so ?
[11:18] <ikonia> yeniklasorr how much ram does your machine have ?
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> 1 gb
[11:19] <linux1> yeniklasorr type about:config in browser and have a look cant rember that value to chenage but you can limit firefox from there
[11:19] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: then ram is not your issue for firefox
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> cpu ?
[11:19] <ikonia> yeniklasorr: the linux kernel will manage your ram more effectivly than you can
[11:19] <stefano_> yeniklasorr, firefox isnt all that fast, i suggest you try epihany - (the package is called epiphany-browser)
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> 2.6 ghz
[11:19] <yeniklasorr> epihany ok ;)
[11:19] <FreeDownload> anyway, firefox should work in a machine like thar
[11:20] <k4r0nt3> m
[11:20] <stefano_> true
[11:20] <FreeDownload> *that
[11:20] <FreeDownload> 1168 users online?
[11:20] <FreeDownload> wow.
[11:20] <linux1> yeniklasorr http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/04/reduce-memory-usage-in-firefox.html
[11:20] <FreeDownload> nice server, hehe
[11:21] <Tassinar> Has anyone had any luck with getting Rhythymbox to play music file when it starts, say if you provide the filename as an argument?
[11:21] <ikonia> FreeDownload: this is an ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel. Do you have a question about ubuntu ?
[11:21] <yeniklasorr> Can YOU open a webpage with firefox, if that page has 2 mb of text ?
[11:21] <stefano_> FreeDownload, sometimes we have more than 3000 here :-)
[11:21] <FreeDownload> ikonia, no, I don't have any question.
[11:21] <ikonia> FreeDownload: then please keep in mind this is a support channel only, not a chat channel
[11:22] <Tassinar> I'm attempting to get Nautilus to open mp3s and the like in Rythymbox, but no luck... any forums and bug reports I've found so far seem to be vastly outdated, I get the impression that the kind of functionaly was dropped.
[11:23] <FreeDownload> see ya.
[11:23] <Tassinar> Has anyone played around with Rhytymbox and had that kind of thing happening, recently?
[11:26] <hsystemxX> hi, does anybody knows how to make gdm default login manager?
[11:26] <think3r> Hi, is there any way to get Alpine installed on 6.06 server (LTS, I think), I keep getting an error to do with libc6 and libssl0.9.8 being out of date. - new to IRC so be kind!
[11:26] <pawan> hi
[11:28]  * Tassinar watches a tumbleweed fly past
[11:29] <Tassinar> Seems that running `rhythymbox <argument>` works fine if it's already running, but not if it's not. Oh well, good enough.
[11:30] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[11:30] <Tassinar> System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[11:31] <nmsa> !search vpn
[11:31] <ubotu> Found: vpn
[11:32] <|WolF1> Question: where can i find .run ?
[11:32] <tokok> sudo find / -name '*.run'
[11:33] <nmsa> ubotu, tell nmsa about vpn
[11:34] <|WolF1> tokok: it says: bash: .run: command not found
[11:34] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: what are you looking for precisely?
[11:34] <|WolF1> Install .run packages
[11:35] <BenderUnit22> How to install them? Type "sh <filename>.run" in a terminal.
[11:35] <space> ola
[11:35] <BenderUnit22> Make sure the source of the .run file is thrustworthy.
[11:35] <ikonia> |WolF1: if this is nvidia drivers - don't
[11:35] <|WolF1> 10x
[11:35] <space> oi
[11:35] <|WolF1> no it is essentials
[11:35] <ikonia> |WolF1: what is
[11:35] <tokok> and "chmod +x pakagename" before runnung sh
[11:36] <BenderUnit22> tokok: don't have to, I thought, unless you want to run it with ./?
[11:36] <tarelerulz> What is a good program for burning a normal audio cd from mp3 files. I tyr k3b and It failed .
[11:36] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: try brasero.
[11:37] <BenderUnit22> (or find out why k3b failed)
[11:37] <tparcina> ssh connection, how to transfer data (using some program with graphical interface)?
[11:37] <tokok> BenderUnit22: you are right
[11:37] <space> hi
[11:37] <tparcina> I mean, when I establish ssh connection, how to transfer data then?
[11:37] <|WolF1> Question: how can i check if i have successfully installed gcc?
[11:37] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: just learn scp and/or sftp, not sure about a GUI program...
[11:37] <ryann> DotA
[11:38] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: just run gcc -v.
[11:38] <pecisk> is there proper guide for messing around USB permissions? I know I have to modify udev rules, but where, how, etc. I can't find
[11:38] <space> hey
[11:38] <BenderUnit22> !hi | space
[11:38] <ubotu> space: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:39] <livenicely>  copy vcd into my hard drive
[11:39] <livenicely> i have ext3 partition
[11:39] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: ok, so when I establich ssh connection like - ssh user@ip_addr, ant how would I transfer data with sftp? should I establish another connection or I transfer data thrue this one?
[11:39] <livenicely> inother words i cant copy .dat files to my hard driver from vcd
[11:39] <tarelerulz> BenderUnit22 ,does Ubuntu native come with program for make normal audio cd out of mp3 ?
[11:40] <space> where you from??
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: well, cdrecord/wodim is excellent from the command line... But how do you mean "native"?
[11:40] <space> where you from
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: you don't have to use ssh separately.
[11:40] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: example scp command: scp user@host:/path/to/file .
[11:40] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: but I need ssh for cli
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: if you've installed ssh, the client programs scp and sftp should already be there as well.
[11:41] <tarelerulz> I mean when you install Ubuntu from the cd does it have programs for burning  normal audio cd from mp3 .
[11:41] <livenicely>  copy vcd into my hard drive
 i have ext3 partition
 inother words i cant copy .dat files to my hard driver from vcd
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> tarelerulz: Serpentine, I believe. Neve rused it, though.
[11:41] <|WolF1> Question: *** exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[11:41] <|WolF1> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[11:41] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: I haven't install it seperately, it's ssh that comes with Ubuntu 7.10 distribution
[11:41] <BenderUnit22> |WolF1: not sure what you're installing, but try installing libglib2.0-dev or something the like.
[11:42] <BenderUnit22> tparcina: so don't bother, you can use scp all right, normally, then.
[11:42] <|WolF1> BenderUnit22:  xchat
[11:42] <|WolF1> how can i install libglib2.0-dev ?
[11:43] <tparcina> BenderUnit22: so, when I establish ssh connection I just execute scp user@host:/path and he will use the same connection (he won't try to establish one more)?
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: what are you trying to actually install
[11:43] <|WolF1> ikonia: xchat
[11:43] <Seveas> |WolF1, install it from the repositories
[11:43] <Seveas> don't compile it yourself :)
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: xwhat is available from the ubuntu repos
[11:43] <ikonia> |WolF1: it's also got a version with gnome bindings
[11:44] <Seveas> ikonia, I love that typo :)
[11:44] <|WolF1> i have live cd so i can't find it :(
[11:44] <ikonia> Seveas: just noticed it myself
[11:44] <ikonia> |WolF1: it's on the livecd
[11:44] <ikonia> |WolF1: or the interenet repo's
[11:44] <Seveas> ikonia, it's not on the livecd since feisty iirc
[11:45] <ikonia> Seveas: ooh, I stand corrected then
[11:45] <Seveas> |WolF1, install ubuntu first, makes life easier
[11:45] <ikonia> |WolF1: dragging from an internet repo will be more time effective than trying to compile it on a live cd
[11:45] <void^> tparcina: if you want to reuse an existing ssh connection for scp you have to use some extra ssh options, ControlMaster and ControlPath. see 'man ssh_config'.
[11:45] <|WolF1> ikonia: how can i do that?
[11:45] <donald_> why doesn't the Ubuntu version of mplayer include AMR in the compile options?
[11:45] <ikonia> |WolF1: apt-get install xchat-gnome
[11:46]  * mopflite likes irssi
[11:46] <Seveas> |WolF1, enable the community software sources via system -> admin -> software sources
[11:46] <SleepingSloth> ikonia - what is special about xchat-gnome as opposed to standard xchat?
[11:46] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, it sucks even harder :)
[11:46] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, you don't like xchat?
[11:46] <tparcina> void^: ok, thank you. I'll read about it.
[11:47] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, i just use what i know - if there's a better alternative, let me know :)
[11:47] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, I like xchat, use it all the time. It has its downsides though and xchat-gnome has all of those and many more :)
[11:47] <zoobox> how do I do to add a keyboard shortcut without removing the old one? If I want to have ctrl-Esc for opening the Program menu, but allso keep Alt-F1 ?
[11:47] <fevel> hello
[11:47] <Seveas> zoobox, you don't
[11:48] <SleepingSloth> Seveas, ah, i see. i expect those downsides are best discussed elsewhere. the big upside for me is that its in the repository... and when you're as lazy as i am, that makes it a winner....
[11:48] <zoobox> it must be possible somehow, right?
[11:48] <Seveas> SleepingSloth, :)
[11:48] <zoobox> hello fevel
[11:49] <fevel> im having trouble with a bug...I installed flashplugin non free for firefox but it keeps asking for the codec, ive tried reinstalling it but it still asks for the codec. Can anyone help?
[11:50] <zoobox> Seveas: I thought I perhaps can edit some settingsfile where the keyboard shortcut window put the settings?
[11:50] <Seveas> zoobox, but you can only associate one key combo with an action :)
[11:51] <zoobox> fevel, I believe there perhaps is still some problemd with the flashplugin non free. it isn't installed correctly. you can install the flashpluginfile manually instead.
[11:52] <fevel> zoobox, Ive tried removing it with synaptic and then reinstalling it. Is there a more manual way to do it?
[11:52] <Seveas> !flash
[11:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[11:53] <yomm> How can I make a .deb package from an installed software package ?? (it's not in the apt-cache...)
[11:53] <philstar> so if I want to get a wubi more recent than 7.04, should I go for 7.10 or 8.04?
[11:53] <zoobox> fevel: (but I really though that the flash problem was fixed allread?) but the easiest way is to copy the flashpluginfile to mozillas plugindirectory
[11:54] <zoobox>  /msg ubotu FlashIssues
[11:54] <|WolF1> question: does live cd has any firewall included, or i should get one on my own?
[11:55] <fevel> all linux have iptabvles
[11:55] <tarelerulz> I must say Ubuntu rocks once more .  I was bit mad when I thought I could not burn a normal cd out of mp3  for a friend .
[11:55] <fevel> *iptables
[11:55] <ikonia> tarelerulz you've said that - thanks
[11:55] <Seveas> philstar, 7.10
[11:56] <ikonia> |WolF1: if your running a livecd - I wouldn't waste your time with firewalls as when you reboot all your data will be fone
[11:56] <ikonia> gone
[11:56] <Seveas> !firewall | |WolF1
[11:56] <ubotu> |WolF1: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:56] <zoobox> yomm, is it ok for me to say "me too" ? ;-) I want to learn how to make deb-files too. I've read a little about it and isn't verry simple
[11:57] <|WolF1> ikonia i have installed ubuntu on hdd from live cd
[11:57] <zoobox> so when you find the perfect guide for deb-making, tell me too :)
[11:57] <Seveas> !packagingguide | zoobox, yomm
[11:57] <ubotu> zoobox, yomm: packagingguide is The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[11:57] <|WolF1> it is my permanent and only one OS
[11:57] <ikonia> |WolF1: right - so why are you saying you can't find it on the livecd
[11:57] <zoobox> aha
[11:57] <Seveas> !packagingguide
[11:57] <tokok> i have a problem with firestarter, it says select internet connection, but i have 2 internet connections, and if i select one, other dies
[11:57] <|WolF1> becouse livecd is only cd i have from
[11:57] <tarelerulz> now if I was good a drawing , I could do a cool graffie style of my screen name haha ,but that is wishful thinking haha
[11:58] <ikonia> |WolF1: you download the packages from the internet
[11:58] <|WolF1> yeah but i'm preaty new to this so i don't know what i need what i don't
[11:58] <|WolF1> i'm sorry if i'm bothering
[11:58] <yomm> leave
[11:58] <ikonia> not bothering at all
[11:58] <simion314> hi, in nautilus places panel i have a shortcut for floppy 1 but i do not have a flopy and i want to remove it from there, i can't do that with right click
[11:58] <ikonia> yomm: pardon ?
[11:59] <tarelerulz> Have any of you burned a normal audio cd with Nautilus ?
[12:01] <southroad> 有说中文的同志马？
[12:02] <tokok> southroad: nice pictures, what they mean?
[12:02] <Seveas> !ch | southroad
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <Seveas> !cn | southroad
[12:02] <ubotu> southroad: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:03] <nullvoid> how can I start ivman? everytime i issue /etc/init.d/ivman start I got something like do_startup_configure and no process of ivman :(
[12:06] <samad909> hi, i have lost sound on my audigy value card
[12:07] <tokok> samad909: this is bad
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: ?
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: why is it?
[12:07] <samad909> tokok: it was working fine, i changed devices and changed it back and it is gone
[12:08] <|Dreams|> does anyone know who makes the tvs Baird
[12:08] <|Dreams|> searched google cant find nothing
[12:08] <muty-bg> Hi any idea how can I add files to an extining deb archive? wny idea
[12:08] <muty-bg> s
[12:09] <MidasWS> www.bairdtelevision.com
[12:10] <|Dreams|> thats on the old baird i have just purchased a new one i think it is just a name they stick on the front
[12:10] <samad909> anyone have any ideas why the sound is not working?
[12:10] <muty-bg> Actually what I need to do is put some missing files in a linux-headers but I'm not very shure how to repackage it
[12:11] <Cobra_Fast> hello
[12:11] <nmsa> hello
[12:11] <donald_> samad909: sound on what hardware?
[12:11] <samad909> donald_: audigy value
[12:12] <Cobra_Fast> i have a problem with grub. it does not start properly with the default original kernel. only the recovery works. when i try to start normal with default error 15 appears
[12:12] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[12:12] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[12:13] <Cobra_Fast> the system i'm trying to run is on a SATA RAID 0 and there is also an IDE harddisk
[12:13] <esperegu> anybody knows how one can decrypt a pdf? I want to remove the password and be able to select the text
[12:13] <PriitM_> Hi, I have found that some files my music directory have been deleted and some have been moved to trash. I assume that's a reason to worry about?
[12:14] <philstar> Seveas: wubi 7.10 works for you?
[12:14] <Seveas> philstar, I never tried wubi
[12:15] <philstar> Seveas: you see, the interesting detail here is that 8.04 has a more recent version, although that could mean that 7.10 has become quite stable
[12:15] <samad909> don't tell me no one knows why this is causing an issue...I am using an audigy value card and suddenly sound is gone after changing devices and changing them back again
[12:15] <philstar> http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/ for reference
[12:15] <Seveas> philstar, ubuntu 8.04 is nowhere near stable though
[12:15] <SleepingSloth> !wubi
[12:15] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[12:16] <SleepingSloth> you live and learn
[12:16] <philstar> Seveas: okay, thanks :)
[12:18] <Dave_is_sexy> How come Ubuntu doesn't use the Debian Standard Core?
[12:19] <oalbech> just downloaded a .deb package with a printer driver, but when i try to run it i'm being told that 'Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time'. I dont have another manager running though
[12:20] <spq> how do i say grub to boot windows? (i want grub to present a menu instead of directly booting to ubuntu)
[12:21] <philstar> spq: rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[12:21] <philstar> 	chainloader +1
[12:21] <philstar> in the simplest case
[12:22] <spq> ok
[12:22] <spq> i can modify that to use the second partition - thanks
[12:22] <philstar> spq: if windows is on a partition other than hda1, you need (hdx,y)
[12:22] <philstar> where x is the number of hdd, and y the partition
[12:23] <Squee> how do I count the lines in a file from bash?
[12:23] <rolf> Squee: wc -l
[12:23] <Squee> rolf: thanks
[12:24] <balbir> how can i install beryl/compiz in ubuntu ?
[12:26] <nullvoid> balbir: http://linux.about.com/b/2008/01/05/setting-up-compizfusion-3d-desktop-in-ubuntu.htm
[12:26] <moon_g> hello
[12:26] <moon_g> ?
[12:26] <zoobox> balbir: compiz is allready installed I think
[12:26] <Squee> moon_g:  Howdy
[12:26] <balbir> i Tried compiz but it failed saying
[12:26] <balbir> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:26] <balbir> No whitelisted driver found
[12:26] <balbir> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[12:26] <FloodBot3> balbir: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <balbir> or sorry
[12:26] <moon_g> first time here ,  howdy squee
[12:27] <Squee> balbir:  that means there is an issue with your video card and compiz, or isn't tested
[12:27] <samad909> anyone have experience with audigy value soundcard in ubuntu?
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having some trouble making a couple of raid arrays with the alt installer. i have six disks attached to this machine: one 160gb attached to the board's sata controller, one 40gb attached to the board's ide controller, three 300gb and one 320gb attached to an add-in card that claims to be a raid card, but actually just seems to be a raidless sata controller. i'm trying to set up the following system: a 900gb raid5 using the first 300gb of the f
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> our disks on the add-in card on which to put /var/files; a 40gb raid-striped for / and swap using 20gb each from the 40 and the 160, which will be backed up on a raid5 made of the last 20gb each of the 320, 160 and 40; a 120gb but of spare space on the 160gb, and a 255mb partition at the start of the 40gb for /boot (the system is set to boot from ide drives first). i started up the alt-install disk for 7.10, opened a tty, and dd'd urandom over the
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_>  first 512mb of each of the disks, then rebooted. once i got to the partitioner, i marked my disks for partitions necessary to make the above, but when i go in to configure software raid, i don't find all of the partitions that i marked as being available for raid actually being available. if i go to delete multidisk devices, i find 'md1', ':', inactive', 'sdb1 [2]', and 'mdo_raid5', none of which i can delete. the only one of these that appears t
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> o have any component devices is md0_raid5 which had three of my 300gb paritions on it, however, when i return to the main partitioning menu, i find raid5 device #0 with 900gb of free space on it. what on earth is going on?
[12:27] <moon_g> not actually a newbie in ubuntu, but i got something to ask
[12:27] <moon_g> :)
[12:27] <zoobox> balbir: hm... what graphic card do you have? it seems to be some problem finding a 3d capable driver?
[12:27] <Squee> moon_g: go for it
[12:27] <PriitM> Is there any ways to see if user has deleted some files from his home dir?
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> ask | moon_g
[12:27] <moon_g> it about gfxboot
[12:27] <StrangeCharm_> !ask | moon_g
[12:28] <ubotu> moon_g: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:28] <Squee> PriitM:  "history |grep -rm" as the user i suppose
[12:28] <zoobox> StrangeCharm_: most people thing that is way to much to read.....
[12:28] <balbir> zoobox: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200]
[12:28] <moon_g> oh ok
[12:28] <moon_g> how to get gfxboot up and going
[12:28] <Squee> moon_g: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[12:28] <moon_g> i followed the ubuntu forum without much luck
[12:28] <Squee> ahh
[12:28] <moon_g> :)
[12:29] <moon_g> been self studying linux for a while, but having a hard time with cli
[12:29] <Squee> moon_g: I don't know what to tell you, I've actually used that exact same tutorial and it worked.
[12:29] <StrangeCharm_> zoobox: i i put any less, and ound someone who actually did know what was going on, they'd just ask me for the rest of it. also, i didn't realise how long it would be
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Why do people always say the cli is hard? its rather straight forward. :
[12:30] <Dr_willis> when in doubt learn the fundamentals. :) then you start chaining the fundamental ideas together. Sort of like Legos.
[12:30] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: different people have different intuitions about things
[12:30] <hottium> It might be confusing at start
[12:30] <moon_g> thanks strangecharm
[12:31] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: also, when referring to multiple pieces of a lego toy, the plural is lego, or lego bricks. lego is not really a noun
[12:31] <moon_g> it's not that ive having a hard time, sometimes i forgot
[12:31] <balbir> zoobox: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56GL [Mobility FireGL V5200] I installed the proparitary driver for ATI
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Been 'teaching' a guy at work about linux.   He was going on about how hard the cli was.. asked him if he had read any of the tutorials id given him.. Nope.. :)
[12:31] <Squee> moon_g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_programs - play with some of these
[12:31] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  Lego My ego!
[12:31] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:31] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: how did i know that was coming... :p
[12:31] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  it is breakfast time here.
[12:32] <dbmoodb> does the 64bit version of ubuntu work with wine ?
[12:32] <Squee> Dr_willis: I was teaching someone debian instead of windows, once they started understanding how intuitive it was they converted completely. (less than a week)
[12:32] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: yeah it works
[12:32] <moon_g> how's the gfxboot differ from the gfxboot in synaptic package manager, it seems that the one in SPM is more updated
[12:32] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: lunch here, but given my sleep cycle, that's more like random-snack time
[12:32] <Dr_willis> StrangeCharm_,  i work 3rd shift now.. Its breakfast.. then bed time for me.
[12:33] <StrangeCharm_> Dr_willis: ouch
[12:33] <Squee> moon_g: if it is in synaptic, use that.  I think he built in for other users in the forums when it wasn't already pre-packaged
[12:33] <eugman|work> What command line command checks disk space?
[12:33] <Squee> df -h
[12:33] <Dr_willis> I like        df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[12:35] <moon_g> but the one in synaptic doesn't have any guide whatsoever, anyway i'll give the guide in the forum another shot
[12:36] <ludal-live> hello all, I'm on a xubuntu LiveCD and I'd like to copy some files from my HDD to an external usb HDD but I can't
[12:36] <ludal-live> the mount command give me : /dev/sda1 on /media/LaCie type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=999,utf8,umask=077)
[12:36] <ludal-live> for my HDD
[12:37] <ludal-live> can sbdy help me ?
[12:37] <sarmisak> so?
[12:37] <sarmisak> what's the problem
[12:37]  * zoom is away: Occupé
[12:37] <eugman|work> I have a server install, is it possible install the gui stuff but have it start up only when I call it from the command line?
[12:37] <mavi-> eugman|work: sure
[12:38] <moon_g> To Squee: the line that i don't understand in the forum guide is "gfxmenu /boot/grub/message.suse # the suse can be replaced"
[12:38] <ludal-live> sarmisak: I can't copy, it says that it's mounted in read-only
[12:38] <Pici> !away > zoom (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:38] <moon_g> where do i put it?
[12:38] <sarmisak> it's not ntfs right?
[12:38] <ludal-live> no, fat32
[12:38] <Squee> moon_g: I think that the message.suse file was a theme.  You should be able to find a message.ubuntu
[12:39] <sarmisak> actually it seems to be mounted rw
[12:39] <sarmisak> read/write
[12:39] <Squee> moon_g: until you have it working, i'd recommend leave it at message.suse
[12:39] <sarmisak> did you try to cp something with sudo cp /path/smthign /mdia/disk/smthing
[12:39] <moon_g> someone told me to put the line in the first line in the menu.lst
[12:39] <ludal-live> no, with gui
[12:39] <ludal-live> I'll try
[12:40] <sarmisak> just popup a terminal
[12:40] <moon_g> yup, im trying to make it as simple as possible
[12:40] <sarmisak> it's usually the access restrictions
[12:40] <moon_g> how do i make it use gfxboot
[12:40] <sarmisak> the fastest way is sudo mkdir /media/disk/dir_name
[12:40] <sarmisak> and then sudo chmod 0777 /media/disk/dir_name
[12:41] <sarmisak> then you can r/w from the gui much easier
[12:41] <Squee> moon_g: i think you just put that line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst.  It also might be a command - i'm not sure
[12:41] <zoobox> balbir, this chatroom is scolling way to fast with all people going in and out.... have you find any soloution?
[12:41] <Squee> moon_g:  yea just put it as the first line
[12:42] <balbir> zoobox: not yet :(
[12:42] <ludal-live> I get the cp: omission du répertoire `/media/disk-2/ludo/Desktop/sauvegardeSTOREX/spectacles/' error
[12:42] <moon_g> without "#"
[12:42] <moon_g> ?
[12:42] <ludal-live> I'm french :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. was this a vfat or ntfs filesystem?  I dident think one can chmod those.
[12:42] <Squee> moon_g: # is a comment, so it shouln't matter if it is there
[12:42] <moon_g> oh ok, thanks a lot
[12:43] <sarmisak> ludal-live: sorry my french is not that good :)
[12:43] <ygorabreu> Hello guys....anyone know how to make nice pdf documents on gutsy using openoffice ? and a good software to do traductions ?
[12:43] <moon_g> i'm kinda want to have grub menu just like suse :)
[12:43] <Squee> moon_g: no problem, but just so you know I stopped using that package because my grub would occasionally just lock up (never happend before I installed that)
[12:43] <sarmisak> ludal-live: can you read from the source?
[12:44] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: just type it, push the pdf button on the toolbar?
[12:44] <moon_g> oh ok, just wondering why it's been implemented suse for sometime now and it's missing in ubuntu
[12:44] <zoobox> balbir: since you have installed the proparitary ATI-driver, compiz should just work in ubuntu 7.10 byt just checking Extra in the visual Effects, without need to install anything
[12:44] <Squee> ygorabreu: file->export to pdf from any Openoffice program
[12:44] <ygorabreu> simple as that ? for sure? =P
[12:44] <Squee> ygorabreu: yes
[12:44] <fevel> whats a good substitute for itunes? One that would work with my ipodtouch and I could see podcasts from? does one exist?
[12:45] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: i'm using it since it was called staroffice? i think i'm pretty sure
[12:45] <sarmisak> fevel:
[12:45] <ygorabreu> sarmisak,squee: sry..thx for the help... i didnt know..i just got a fresh gutsy installation and im starting to work here...
[12:45] <sarmisak> fevel: try rhytmbox?
[12:45] <Squee> fevel: i use rhythmbox
[12:45] <fevel> isnt amarok better?
[12:45] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: ;) n.p.
[12:45] <fevel> a person once told me
[12:45] <Squee> ygorabreu: not a problem, that is exactly what this channel is for
[12:45] <ygorabreu> sarmisak_: and to edit and stuff..i still need to use the openoffice right?
[12:46] <sarmisak> fevel: i couldn't get used to it :)
[12:46] <Cooltiger> hello
[12:46] <Squee> sarmisak: you could try songbird
[12:46] <fevel> sarmisak, is ubuntu the only distro you use??
[12:46] <ygorabreu> thx guys..and ... u guys know a nice soft to do translations?
[12:46] <sarmisak> ygorabreu: you can't edit pdf's directly, you can type and export as much as you want from the original document
[12:46] <zoom> zoobox>>> no with my card with proparitary driver compiz don t work for example: ati mobility radeon 9700
[12:46] <moon_g> goodbye, thanks to those who helped me
[12:46] <Dr_willis> fevel,  ubuntu is one of the most easy disrtos to use.
[12:47] <sarmisak> fevel: i have tried pardus -which is distributed by a turkish team- but mostly ubuntu
[12:47] <Dr_willis> fevel,  oope  i ,miss read that. :) its late for me. never mind.
[12:47] <juice_> can someone tell me why i have to install 7.10 in safe graphics mode? i have a 8800 GT on an ASUS board.
[12:47] <sarmisak> i like gnome better
[12:47] <juice_> x64 edition that is
[12:47] <fevel> Dr_willis, Can I use it for server also? or is it not a good idea?
[12:47] <sarmisak> juice_: amd64?
[12:47] <Truman> s
[12:47] <Truman> sada
[12:47] <juice_> sarmiski: yes
[12:47] <juice_> sarmisak:
[12:47] <Truman> hallo
[12:47] <Dr_willis> fevel,  it can do server tasks also. I have a ubuntu box thats a samba server, printserver, and mythtv server. :)
[12:47] <sarmisak> juice_: it's broken :) i couldn't install it from live cd either
[12:48] <Truman> noob
[12:48] <juice_> sarmisak: howd u fix it?
[12:48] <Cooltiger> jopp
[12:48] <rhach> hello
[12:48] <darkhelfer> hi
[12:48] <sarmisak> juice_: actually try to install i386 version, some packages -like flash player- is not working in amd64 version
[12:48] <fevel> Dr_willis, how about email server, vpn, proxy and firewall??
[12:48] <SleepingSloth> Truman, ?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> juice_,   For my systems the Monitor and otehr stuff dosent work 100% untill i get the actual nvidia drivers installed. Wrong and so forth.
[12:48] <sarmisak> juice_: installed from an alternate install cd
[12:48] <Dr_willis> fevel,  it can do those.
[12:48] <fevel> Dr_willis, do you recommend it?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> fevel,  most all disrtos can handle the various server tasks
[12:49] <sarmisak> fevel: i have an ubuntu server
[12:49] <rhach> hello some germans here?
[12:49] <zoobox> zoom, aha.. ok I have allways avoided ati-cards..... I hope they get better now when amd are opensource-friendly
[12:49] <juice_> sarmisak: so i have to use the 32 bit version then install drivers from nvidia site?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> fevel,  depends on your needs.   for a company of 10000000000000 people.. :)  you may not want to.. For your House.. No problem.
[12:49] <sarmisak> fevel: it works real good
[12:49] <sarmisak> juice_: exactly ;)
[12:49] <erUSUL> sarmisak: the flashplayer-nonfre works on 64 bit with nsplginwrapper (well not now becouse the package is broken in both architectures)
[12:49] <juice_> weak
[12:49] <darkhelfer> i have new install Ubuntu and have a Geforce TNT 2, how i install a good driver for it ?
[12:49] <juice_> sarmisak: is someone working on the problem?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | darkhelfer
[12:50] <ubotu> darkhelfer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <Cooltiger> oh gott
[12:50] <Cooltiger> ruhe
[12:50] <St> jo
[12:50] <sarmisak> erUSUL: i know, but i needed some other packages also, what breaks people mostly is the flash player -youtube you know-
[12:50] <zoobox> rhach: there is probably a german ubuntu-chatroom too
[12:50] <iratiku> #ubuntu-de
[12:50] <rhach> oh thanks ^
[12:50] <Cooltiger> ???
[12:50] <sarmisak> juice_: yeah, but it's proprieatery so we'll have to wait for adobe to make another package
[12:51] <iratiku> I know you guys are all busy answering questions and I appreciate your help .... but I'm trying to setup a quick image server.... can't figure out how to start partimaged... i see there is a package partimage (gutsy btw...) but i've got that installed and ps ax | grep partimaged shows up nothing and there is no entry in /etc/init.d
[12:51] <iratiku> how do i do it?
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: but as erUSUL has said there is a way to install it
[12:51] <iratiku> install from source?
[12:51] <juice_> sarmisak: adobe?
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: sorry :) it wasn't for you
[12:51] <sarmisak> juice_: yes they are working on it but no news yet
[12:51] <oalbech> when trying to print it tells me the application/postscript not found.. what do i need to install?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: oh the flash player i got to work but i want the drivers 4 my vid card
[12:52] <fevel> can I get Ipod touch working on ubuntu??
[12:52] <ctp> hi folks. anyone here can say me how stable hardy actually is for desktop use?
[12:52] <fevel> I just got one
[12:52] <sarmisak> juice_: what's the card?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: ne way around it?
[12:52] <juice_> sarmisak: 8800 GT
[12:52] <ctp> any known trouble with hardy?
[12:52] <erUSUL> sarmisak: for mi the way was "go to youtube.com and try to watch a video; system ask me to enable flashplayer i say ok and give my password close firefox open it again done"
[12:52] <iratiku> nevermind guys
[12:52] <Pici> !hardy | ctp
[12:52] <ubotu> ctp: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:52] <iratiku> package is partimage-server
[12:52] <erUSUL> ctp: a lot i spect is not even beta
[12:52] <sarmisak> erUSUL: try it with AMD64 distro ;)
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i did
[12:53] <darkhelfer> reboot ^
[12:53] <darkhelfer> ^^
[12:53] <Truman> hallo
[12:53] <zoom> zoobox>>> yes :)
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i run a 64 bit distro and tha's how i installed flash
[12:53] <sarmisak> erUSUL: then it was my mistake i couldn't do it directly
[12:53] <ctp> erUSUL: ok
[12:53] <erUSUL> sarmisak: i'm talkiing first hand
[12:53] <juice_> erUSUL: u run nvidia card?
[12:53] <sarmisak> erUSUL: is it gutsy? i had a major problem installing flash player
[12:54] <Truman> hallo
[12:54] <sarmisak> erUSUL: i installed it after googling
[12:54] <erUSUL> sarmisak: works fine in gutsy (feisty and older was much trickier)
[12:54] <sarmisak> erUSUL: but it wasn't click and install
[12:54] <erUSUL> juice_: yes i do a 7300GT
[12:54] <sarmisak> juice_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:54] <Dr_willis> I just grabbed the deb off the 2nd factoid the bot mentions in !flash  and that gets flash going for me. But I hear its still broke in konqueror.
[12:54] <rhach> @truman hallo ^^
[12:54] <Truman> 7600GT
[12:54] <sarmisak> juice_: that would install the latest drivers for you nv card
[12:54] <juice_> sarmisak: 8800 GT. for the flash player choose the second option when u see flash player options
[12:55] <erUSUL> juice_: system>Admin>restricted manager and enable the nvidia driver
[12:55] <Truman> hallo
[12:55] <juice_> erUSUL: i had no drivers to begin with so restricted driver manager will not open ne ways ;)
[12:56] <Jay955> morning all
[12:56] <erUSUL> juice_: not even safe graphics mode?
[12:56] <juice_> erUSUL: i installed in safe mode
[12:56] <Jay955> i'm new to this and can use some help
[12:56] <darkhelfer> how i can change my resolution to 1280 ? its only 800x600 avaible
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: nvidia? ati?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> During the install the nvidia cards should get set to use the 'nv' drivers - that should provide at least a useable desktop :) untill you can install the other drivers.
[12:57] <erUSUL> juice_: but when you but you do not land in safe graphics mode?
[12:57] <darkhelfer> nvidia
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: but i just did the apt-get and DL fom nvidia and neither work
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: try installing the drivers
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: syntax???
[12:57] <erUSUL> juice_: is 8800gt?
[12:57] <juice_> erUSUL: yes
[12:57] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: popup a terminal, type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[12:57] <Dr_willis> darkhelfer,  i have to install the nvidia drivers for my res/monitors to get used properly at their proper res.
[12:57] <darkhelfer> have installed the restricted drivers
[12:58] <Dr_willis> after installing them restart the X server.
[12:58] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: then try the change resolution thing in system > preferences
[12:58] <juice_> erUSUL: maybe my card dont like me?
[12:58] <sarmisak> juice_: i didn't know that cards had options of liking/disliking ;)
[12:59] <darkhelfer> there it only 800x600 and 640x480
[12:59] <thomasthomas> hi
[12:59] <juice_> sarmisak: there is a switch on the back like the crusty clown dolls in simpsons
[12:59] <erUSUL> juice_: dunno; have you tried with the nv driver to get at least a 2d desktop?
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <thomasthomas> HOLA
[12:59] <FloodBot3> thomasthomas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <Dr_willis> Guess im lucky my 8800 card works great with the repo drivers.
[12:59] <filthpig> I get terrible sound when playing mp3s in rockbox. They sound just fine with totem
[12:59] <juice_> erUSUL: i have desktop and all but i cant enable custom animation and the like
[13:00] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: i was under the impression that 8800 needed nvidia.com drivers (169.09)
[13:00] <Jay955> i just setup Ubuntu, i'm sharing a folder but i can't get to it from the windows side what i'm i missing
[13:00] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  i got an 8800 gts here. and just use the ones the restricted-manager gives me.
[13:00] <sarmisak> Jay955: are you sharing with samba?
[13:00] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: good to know
[13:00] <Jay955> yes i am
[13:00] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  only issue i have is with twinview  and Gnome/KDE sort of getting my 2 monitors switched. :) KDM shows up on the one to the side.
[13:01] <darkhelfer> sarmisak: can i use "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" with the Nvidia TNT2 ? think i only can use legacy
[13:01] <Jay955> when on the windows side it's asking me for user and password
[13:01] <sarmisak> darkhelfer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then ;)
[13:01] <juice_> dr_willis: u 7.10 amd64?
[13:01] <darkhelfer> thx
[13:01] <sarmisak> Jay955: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[13:01] <Dr_willis> juice_,  i dont use 64bit disrtos. I got no need to use 64bit.
[13:02] <erUSUL> juice_: dunno what it is wrong wth your setup... my card works well with both the packaged drivers and with the nvidia.com ones (what i currently use)
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: find the line that says security = user
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: uncomment it and change it to security=share
[13:02] <Dr_willis> I wonder if thers not some bios/card issues going on with the drivers in some cases.
[13:02] <erUSUL> juice_: but it is and older model 7300GT
[13:02] <juice_> dr_willis: y not 64?
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:02] <sarmisak> Jay955: that should do it
[13:02] <Dr_willis> juice_,  why 64?  I gain nothing.. and theres quirks to watch out for.
[13:02] <Jay955> thanks i will try brb
[13:03] <juice_> ic
[13:03] <sarmisak> Jay955: beware, this is not secure.
[13:03] <juice_> alright im out to reformat. peace ya'll
[13:03] <sarmisak> Jay955: if you want security you must create smb users etc, google it
[13:03] <Dr_willis> !samba | Jay955
[13:03] <ubotu> Jay955: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[13:03] <Jay955> thank
[13:03] <darkhelfer> and now restart X-Server ? how i can make this in the terminal or need restart complete ?
[13:04] <erUSUL> darkhelfer: crtl+alt+backspace
[13:04] <Dr_willis> darkhelfer,  hit alt-ctrl-backspace will FORCE it to restart right now. :) be sure to save yoru stuff first..
[13:04] <erUSUL> darkhelfer: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[13:04] <darkhelfer> or sudo reboot ? :D
[13:05] <Dr_willis> rebooting is NOT the same as restarting the X server
[13:05] <Dr_willis> :) its more drastic
[13:05] <idefix_> why on earth did I ever upgrade my linux?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> idefix_,  you wanted the wiggly windows?
[13:05] <SleepingSloth> idefix_,  was the grass greener?
[13:05] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis,  hahah
[13:06] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis, wobbly windows are lame
[13:06] <ivan_> здрасте
[13:06] <Dr_willis> MyWife : "Honey - i think the computer is broken, the windows i move around are all wiggly-jiggly!"
[13:06] <henry> lol
[13:06] <henry> cool
[13:07] <Dr_willis> Funny Because its True.. :P
[13:07] <Dr_willis> well its bed time for me. Night all.
[13:07] <SleepingSloth> Dr_willis,  lol.  you should lower the friction setting, or whatever it is, and see what heppens!!
[13:07] <henry> good night
[13:08] <sarmisak> SleepingSloth: ahahah it's cool when the friction changes :D
[13:08] <sarmisak> log out / log in
[13:09] <_marianne_> hey, i'm having an issue with video playback on an ubuntu derivative, i'm not sure if it's different enough from main ubuntu to matter, buuuut... i thought asking here was worth a go! half the time when i open video files, on any player that i've tried (vlc, mplayer, xine, even embedded ones in firefox), the image won't appear, it's just a garbled mess, a screenshot of which is here - http://xmoogle.org/images/vidproblem.jpg - sometimes
[13:10] <_marianne_> i can make the problem go away by closing random programs, sometimes i can't, it's really quite annoying.... any ideas?
[13:10] <doctorow> I'm in the middle of using Distribution Upgrade to take a machine from Feisty to Gutsy. It's been running fine for > 1h, but it seems to be hung on "Configuring xserver-xorg" -- it's been doing this for the past 5+ minutes with no visible progress. Is there a way to find out if this is hung? Will Distribution Update eventually skip to the next bit?
[13:11] <florin> hi
[13:12] <cyberleo> hello
[13:13] <StrangeCharm_> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook p7230. on the hcl, it's listed as working ok. i'm using the intel experimental modsetting graphics driver. i have more swap space than i have ram; i even have more empty swap space than i have ram. i see the hibernate icon in power options dialogue. however, when i click on it, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left, and this persists for as long as i leave the compu
[13:13] <StrangeCharm_> ter running. when i force a power-off, and turn it back on, i just get a normal startup. any ideas?
[13:13] <cyberleo> alguem fala portugues?
[13:13] <cyberleo> estou com uma duvida
[13:13] <dgjones> !pt
[13:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:13] <cyberleo> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
 where to i enter that.
[13:15] <doctorow> I'm in the middle of using Distribution Upgrade to take a machine from Feisty to Gutsy. It's been running fine for > 1h, but it seems to be hung on "Configuring xserver-xorg" -- it's been doing this for the past 5+ minutes with no visible progress. Is there a way to find out if this is hung? Will Distribution Update eventually skip to the next bit?
[13:15] <DarkHelfer03|Pen> öhm... the Nvidia driver and my X-Server not compatible >_>
[13:15] <DarkHelfer03|Pen> X-Server can not start
 like i say i'm new to this
[13:18] <Jay955> brb
[13:18] <gob1029> what channel do i go to for help with banshee?
[13:19] <swuboo> Does anyone know of an applet that will display the current date in the French revolutionary calendar?
[13:19] <filthpig> I get terrible sound when playing mp3s in rockbox. Sounds like electrical noise on the treble.. They sound just fine with totem.
[13:23] <dbmood1> if my friend install ubuntu gutsy in safe graphics mode on a laptop with a nvidia card will he have problems after rebooting with x.org starting up ?
[13:23] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  I don't really see any reason why he would, to be honest.
[13:24] <dbmoodb> ok cool
[13:24] <dbmoodb> but i have in the past had nvidia problems and just wondered what would happen...
[13:24] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  Then you probably know more than I.  I have an nvidia card, but I've got a desktop.
[13:25] <dbmoodb> k - some times the laptop's don't boot up they have a flashing coloured brown screen
[13:25] <dbmoodb> using the livecd
[13:25] <srujan> hi all
[13:25] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  Hm.  Don't know.  I'd suggest using the nvidia rather than nv driver, though.
[13:26] <dbmoodb> what is it by default in gutsy
[13:26] <srujan> I'm Srujan from india
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !intel wireless
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel wireless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !centrino
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about centrino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> ....
[13:26] <srujan> I installed kubuntu and actually lost my admin privilages
[13:26] <oli> !kernel
[13:26] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[13:26] <dbmoodb> !backdoor
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backdoor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <dbmoodb> i mean grub
[13:27] <dbmoodb> !safe root
[13:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about safe root - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:27] <swuboo> dbmoodb:  The default is nv, I believe, since that's the open source driver.  The nvidia driver is the closed-source vendor version.
[13:27] <srujan> can anyone help?
[13:27] <dbmoodb> k sure just reboot and change a few things in the grub boot options
[13:27] <swuboo> srujan:  Lost them in what sense?  Does sudo work?
[13:27] <srujan> no
[13:27] <srujan> it doesn't
[13:27] <dbmoodb> push e to edit, and put in
[13:27] <swuboo> ...huh.
[13:27] <sarmisak> srujan: was it a reformat?
[13:27] <srujan> no
[13:28] <srujan> actually one of my friend unknowingly done that
[13:28] <sarmisak> hmms, popup a terminal and goto /etc folder
[13:28] <sarmisak> sudo nano group
[13:28] <srujan> i searched a lot but with no result
[13:28] <dbmoodb> he can't do that sarm
[13:28] <dbmoodb> can he ?
[13:28] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: god, no
[13:28] <sarmisak> dbmoodb: you are right
[13:28] <dbmoodb> just change the grub boot options
[13:28] <dbmoodb> tis easyt
[13:29] <srujan> sarmisak: nay help?
[13:30] <jrib> srujan: you need to reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then execute, without the quotes, 'adduse YOUR_USER_NAME', where YOUR_USER_NAME is your actual user name.  After that, reboot and use the GUI (System -> Adiministration -> Users and Groups) to add yourself to your other missing groups.
[13:30] <jrib> srujan: ack, I made a typo.  The command should be: adduser YOUR_USER_NAME
[13:31] <jrib> srujan: ack, I made a typo.  The command should be: adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin
[13:31] <jrib> too early I guess...
[13:31] <srujan> :jrib actually i dont see any recovery mood whnile booting
[13:31] <srujan> there are some 5 options
[13:31] <jrib> srujan: one should say "recovery mode".  What 5 do you see?
[13:32] <srujan> one is root next kernel and other kernel with some code
[13:32] <srujan> next is quiet
[13:32] <srujan> and last is
[13:32] <srujan> i dont exactly remember
[13:32] <dbmoodb> eh ubuntu recovery mode from grub has no root password question ?
[13:32] <oli> how should i name end of file name (ex. .jpg) in english? :>
[13:32] <dbmoodb> jpeg ?
[13:32] <jrib> srujan: reboot and check.  It should be there unless you have removed it
[13:33] <srujan> i also have vista installed
[13:33] <jrib> oli: it's referred to as the file's "extension" if that is what you mean
[13:33] <srujan> so what it displays is ubuntu and next option is vista
[13:33] <pdowling> should Wubi detect this iso ubuntu-7.10-alternate-amd64.iso and install it, instead of ripping off the net again?
[13:33] <jrib> srujan: k, come back if it's not there
[13:33] <srujan> ok fine
[13:33] <oli> jrib: thats what i wanted to know, thanx
[13:33] <srujan> I should check for wht??
[13:34] <jrib> srujan: a line that says "recovery mode" somewhere
[13:34] <srujan> is der any command for that to write in grub?
[13:34] <jrib> srujan: and then run the 'adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin' command
[13:34] <srujan> ok
[13:35] <srujan> :jrib is der any command for booting in recovery mode?
[13:35] <jrib> srujan: you don't need one.  It is listed by default
[13:36] <srujan> jrib: ok what will be displayed after the recovery booting? a direct command line ar anything else/
[13:37] <ritalin> y0
[13:37] <ritalin> ubuntu pretty good for laptops?
[13:37] <riotkittie> srujan: you'll be given a command line
[13:37] <techgeek40> Good Morning, all
[13:37] <jrib> srujan: mine is displayed as: Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode).  You just select that and hit enter.  Then you get a command prompt.  You enter 'adduser YOUR_USER_NAME admin', where YOUR_USER_NAME is your actual username.  Then reboot
[13:37] <riotkittie> ritalin: i'd say it depends on your laptop.
[13:37] <riotkittie> ritalin: i've had no probs with it on mine, tho
[13:37] <dbmoodb> !ritalin
[13:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ritalin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:37] <srujan> ok thank u
[13:38] <jrib> srujan: come back if you have trouble :)
[13:38] <techgeek40> I have one - do DirectX (PCI Express) video cards work okay - or very well - under Ubuntu?
[13:39] <daniel92> techgeek40: well, directx won't work (microsoft only), but the video card should work fine
[13:39] <AngryElf_> hey folks, I can't get my samba user to connect for some reason, my config is pretty simple, just a path and writeable = yes,  and I've set up the smb user with smbpasswd -a, but windows is still telling me that my server isn't accessible -- any ideas?
[13:40] <sheen> Hello all, I have issues installing my new nvidia gf8000 GTS G92 (latest chipset), it appears only known by latest nvidia drivers. I've installed them then I've launch X and I've seen a nvidia logo ! But gnome does not load so I've restart ubuntu and now I'm in vesa mode =( somebody could help me please ?
[13:40] <techgeek40> daniel92: I am not worried about DirectX working - that I have Vista for (grin) just worried about the card. I'm chaning out my vid card this weekend. I had ONE hell'va time getting it configured under Ubuntu
[13:40] <dbmoodb> is cpu frequency installed by default in gutsy ?
[13:40] <techgeek40> Sheen: Where did you get the drivers?
[13:40] <simion314> hi, in nautilus places panel i have a shortcut for floppy 1 but i do not have a flopy and i want to remove it from there, i can't do that with right click
[13:40] <dbmoodb> - i think i saw it last time i installed
[13:40] <sheen> techgeek40, nvidia.com
[13:40] <baby_imutz> koko
[13:40] <daniel92> techgeek40: what is the problem then?
[13:41] <sheen> techgeek40, because nvidia-glx-new does not work , driver's aren't enough recent
[13:41] <dbmoodb> !cpufreq
[13:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufreq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:41] <jrib> simion314: hmm, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[13:41] <techgeek40> Daniel: nothing really - I am was just curious - wondering if anyone has had problems with the pci express cards
[13:41] <techgeek40> Sheen: did you edit your xorg.conf and take out the vesa under "device"?
[13:42] <Na-Fiann> Hey, does anyone know how i can run a specific program in a different language without changing the language of the entire install?
[13:42] <daniel92> techgeek40:  afaik, they work just as well as any other card. actually, i'm pretty sure the vid card in my laptop i;m using right now (ati mobility radeon 2300 =[) is some form of pci x16
[13:42] <sarmisak> i'm using a 7500gt, no problems
[13:42] <sheen> techgeek40, no I was thinking that xconfig done it (it appears done it one time because i've seen the nvidia logo)
[13:42] <sarmisak> on my nb i have nvidia mobility, no problem on that also
[13:43] <daniel92> brb all
[13:43] <techgeek40> Sheen: there is a walkthrough for that - let me get you the link - make sure you follow it. It will go through the specifics for you
[13:43] <techgeek40> Sheen: one sec
[13:43] <IdleOne> just did a fresh install of 7.04 and my internet is not working or being recognised. need help please
[13:44] <techgeek40> Sheen: You have the 8000?
[13:44] <sheen> techgeek40, ok thanks a lot. This G92 is very hard to get working
[13:44] <sheen> techgeek40, 8800GTS but G92 (latest one)
[13:44] <techgeek40> Okay -
[13:45] <sarmisak> IdleOne: what's your nic make and model?
[13:45] <sarmisak> if it's onboard realtek 8169 or something like that just upgrade to 7.10
[13:45] <sarmisak> gigabit nics aren't much welcome in 7.04
[13:45] <techgeek40> Sheen: here is the site: get these drivers - http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.09.html
[13:45] <techgeek40> Sheen: Also
[13:46] <IdleOne> sarmisak SiS Unknown device 0671 is what lspci gives me
[13:46] <techgeek40> There is a util to help with the xorg - but also read the readme file - as it provides additional links on editing things that may need a line added or remarked out
[13:46] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you dl a live 7.10 cd?
[13:46] <sarmisak> IdleOne: try it with the live cd
[13:47] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know what the apache-mod-perl package is called ?
[13:47] <sarmisak> if it's working then just upgrade
[13:47] <IdleOne> sarmisak 7.10 has same effect
[13:47] <sarmisak> MindSpark: libapache2-mod-perl ?
[13:47] <sheen> techgeek40, this is the driver I've installed (I'm on 64 bits)
[13:47] <techgeek40> Sheen : oops okay - one sec
[13:47] <IdleOne> sarmisak livecd has no internet either
[13:47] <sarmisak> IdleOne: hmms, than it's a major problem for you
[13:47] <MindSpark> sarmisak, as far as I understand that's the development package ?
[13:48] <sarmisak> MindSpark: apt-cache search perl
[13:48] <MindSpark> sarmisak, yea, I did that, thanks :)
[13:48] <techgeek40> Sheen: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.09.html      still - make sure you read the readme. I had to - even though the install did just fine - I actually ended up having to install the driver via a safe mode terminal --- did you turn off X when you did the installation?
[13:48] <SleepingSloth> MindSpark, isn't it libapache2-mod-perl2 ?
[13:48] <IdleOne> sarmisak I do have a NIC card that works in my older pc . think I can swap them out without major issues on the driver side of things?
[13:48] <drunkmuppet> Hello. I was wanting to set up a webserver on vmware. What version of Ubuntu do you recommend and do you know of a good guide for a basic webserver? (php, mysql, perl, apache)
[13:49] <sarmisak> IdleOne: that would be a wise choice until a driver is created for your card
[13:49] <juice_> ne one know the terminal command for nvidia drivers for 8800GT?
[13:49] <drhumanist> hi
[13:49] <MindSpark> SleepingSloth, it looks like I need to update/install the mod_cgi as well
[13:49] <drhumanist> i have a problem installing Gutsy
[13:49] <sarmisak> drunkmuppet: ubuntu server edition, just pop the iso in and choose lamp
[13:49] <IdleOne> sarmisak guess that is what I will do then. thank you
[13:49] <sheen> techgeek40, I've close X (kill it I don't know how to close it to get the console)
[13:49] <SleepingSloth> MindSpark, ah, i see
[13:49] <sarmisak> IdleOne: never mind.
[13:50] <juice_> sarmisak: hey  me again, what was the terminal command for nvidia drivers?
[13:50] <drunkmuppet> sarmisak - Alright. Thankyou :D
[13:50] <IdleOne> sarmisak never mind?
[13:50] <drhumanist> at the and of the installation (94%) when it is installing GRUB it gives a fatal error saying cannot load GRUB on hda(o)
[13:50] <SleepingSloth> juice_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, you mean?
[13:50] <juice_> ty
[13:50] <techgeek40> Sheen: read the readme - and additonal links - then at the terminal window do /etc/init.d/gdm stop   that will stop the process - then do the terminal install - the new Nvidia drivers will have a gui for that and it will walk you through the installatoin
[13:50] <Na-Fiann> Alright I got a bit further...
[13:50] <swuboo> Does anyone know a way to get the system clock to use a non-Gregorian calendar?
[13:50] <redarrow> Hallo zusammen
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> if i input this in the terminal it works fine: LANGUAGE=nl_NL:nl LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 gramps
[13:51] <BlackRece> hi ppl
[13:51] <drhumanist> hey anyone? :)
[13:51] <brobostigon> redarrow: moin
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> however, add the same command to the main menu and it complains about not being able to create a child process
[13:51] <Na-Fiann> anyone know why?
[13:51] <techgeek40> Sheen: reboot and do the safe mode start up - hit ALT+F2 - type your user name and password: then do the sudo su - for root - then the /etc/init.d/gdm stop - then cd to where the drivers are and follow the readme directions from there - they should install just fine from that point on
[13:52] <sheen> techgeek40, thanks I try
[13:52] <techgeek40> Sheen: good luck
[13:52] <drhumanist> guys - cannot even install Ubuntu :(
[13:52] <sheen> techgeek40, thanks =)
[13:52] <techgeek40> Sheen: :>
[13:52] <redarrow> brobostigon: oh, doch einer der mich versteht :D - hab eigentlich falschen Channel gehabt ;)
[13:52] <BlackRece> I have a simple noob question, how do I find out which nics are connected to what? I have 2 nics, one to router and one to a pc, trying to setup linux-gateway-box
[13:52] <techgeek40> drhumanist - what happens when you try to install
[13:52] <zoobox> anyone knows how I turn off window-to-window snapping in non-compiz mode? (visual effects: none)
[13:53] <brobostigon> !de | redarrow
[13:53] <ubotu> redarrow: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:53] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - till 94% everything goes fine, at that point -while trying to install GRUB- it gives a fatal error
[13:53] <iratiku> I missing a library libbz2
[13:53] <kriel> BlackRece: check IP's would be my guess. or mac addresses, if the router lets you see said mac addresses in its client table.
[13:53] <juice_> sarmisak: so i installed the 32bit version of 7.10 and just installed the nvidia drivers but when i go to restricted drivers manager and it says my hardware requires no restricted drivers...
[13:53] <brobostigon> redarrow: es sprechen hier mehr englisch als deutsch,
[13:53] <iratiku> Where do i get libbz2?
[13:53] <drhumanist> techgeek40- saying "Cannot install Grub on hda0"
[13:53] <redarrow> brobostigon: weiß ich eigentlich, bin in beiden Channeln vertreten nur bei irssi blick ich das manchmal nicht so in welchen channel ich gerade schreibe ;)
[13:54] <techgeek40> zoobox: try this site - it walks you through setting that up: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion
[13:54] <kriel> I recently changed my password, by using the 'passwd' command at a terminal level. Now, on every boot, nm-applet (Network Manager) asks for permission to the default keyring, and I have to type in my old password before it goes away. Was I not supposed to use the console command?
[13:54] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: how many drives you have in your computers? Also, are you doing the install via the full live CD or the alternate cd?
[13:54] <drhumanist> any ideas?
[13:55] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - Only one SATA Toshiba HDD on my laptop, Full CD
[13:55] <juice_> ne one know why my nvidia drivers arent working?
[13:55] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: how's your partition your drives?
[13:55] <juice_> help please
[13:55] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  what exactly is the problem?
[13:55] <balor> Does anyone know if the OOo bibliography tool works in Presenter?
[13:55] <Na-Fiann> can anyone please help me?
[13:55] <techgeek40> juice: did you install the drivers from the snyaptic or the web site?
[13:55] <roy_> hello,
[13:56] <drhumanist> I partitioned them in my Vista - one swap area 1.8 GB - one partition 18 GB
[13:56] <BlackRece> (why are there so many ppl with probs?! didn't think ubuntu was this awkward!)
[13:56] <drhumanist> I have Vista installed btw
[13:56] <kriel> BlackRece: can I pm?
[13:56] <BlackRece> sure
[13:56] <BlackRece> pm away
[13:56] <Na-Fiann> its just a small prob with the main menu items...
[13:56] <Na-Fiann> anyone?
[13:56] <techgeek40> drhumanist: one sec -
[13:56] <juice_> sleepingsloth, techgeek40: im in 7.10 fresh install, i have a 8800 GT nvidia, installed drivers from apt-get
[13:56] <drhumanist> okay
[13:56] <roy_> I have a problem...my desktop stopped working, i.e. no wallpaper is displayed, just black, no icons on the desktop, can't right-click on the desktop etc. anyone have any idea where I can check for errors?
[13:57] <techgeek40> Juice: 32 or 64?
[13:57] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  so what is actually wrong? low-graphics mode, or just no acceleration?
[13:57] <juice_> sleepingsloth, techgeek40: when i go to restricted drivers manager it claims my harware needs no restricted drivers
[13:57] <oalbech> how do i make programs launch at login?
[13:58] <oalbech> i want skype, pidgin and others to launch automaticly
[13:58] <PriitM> I copied folderA to folderB, now some of folderB files were in .trash, some completely missing. Some folderA files were completely missing. I found nautilus-debug-log, which contained info about me moving those files, but not deleting them. I didn't find any remove commands from terminal as well. System log did not report any unknown root logins. The data I lost wasn't very important, but is this just a bug or I should be worried?
[13:58] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  have you changed your xorg.conf?
[13:58] <juice_> sleepingsloth: no
[13:59] <juice_> sleepingsloth: what is it?
[13:59] <Eduardu> oalbech you need add commands on sessions option in setings menu
[13:59] <SleepingSloth> juice_, one sec
[13:59] <juice_> k
[13:59] <Na-Fiann> lol is my problem not exotic enough or sumthing?
[14:00] <swuboo> oalbech:  System, Preferences, Sessions.
[14:00] <oalbech> thanks guys
[14:00] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - shall i wait more? :)
[14:00] <Pici> Na-Fiann: What program are you trying to run?
[14:00] <SleepingSloth> Na-Fiann, please be patient
[14:00] <techgeek40> drhumanist: I take it you're using Vista to log in here right now?
[14:00] <swuboo> oalbech:  There'll be a tab for Startup programs.  Just add them.
[14:00] <drhumanist> techgeek - No, Live User mode - Ubuntu
[14:00] <Na-Fiann> sorry, just seemed like i was being ignored, not trying to be annoying or anything:p
[14:01] <erUSUL> PriitM: you copied it with nautilus? or you used cp?
[14:01] <Na-Fiann> pici, im trying to run gramps in my own loacale without changing standard language
[14:01] <PriitM> erUSUL, nautilus
[14:02] <techgeek40> drhumanist: i ran into that before and trying to remember how I got around that. I think - during the installation - I actually deleted my partition (the free space one) along with the swap area - re-did them with the Live CD - first creating the saw - then the second partition using just the etc and the mount of /       that was it -
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: You'll need to make a file, put the commands that you mentioned above in that file.
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> pici: in the terminal,  LANGUAGE=nl_NL:nl LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 gramps works fine, but when run as a menu item, it gives the error "cannot create child process"
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> ahh
[14:02] <techgeek40> saw = swap
[14:02] <techgeek40> <---fingers haven't had their coffee yet
[14:02] <Na-Fiann> so, does it need to be a bash file or something?
[14:02] <SleepingSloth> juice_, I cant find the howto right now - but i am sure you need to change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf device driver from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: The menu cannot run multiple commands like that, but if you put them in a script, it can run the script.
[14:02] <Pici> Na-Fiann: Exactly.
[14:03] <erUSUL> PriitM: humm you espected to end up with folderB/folderA/ tree or you wanted all the files of folderA/ end up in folderB/  ?? i think you should reort it as a bug in nautilus with a detailed description (including logs etc)
[14:03] <techgeek40> drhumanist: did you create the swap partition as well in vista or did you do the partition setup in live cd mode?
[14:03] <Na-Fiann> great, thanks very much:)
[14:03] <daninad> you people die with the mortals
[14:03] <erUSUL> !bugs | PriitM
[14:03] <ubotu> PriitM: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:03] <daninad> unless you help
[14:03] <SleepingSloth> juice_, at least, i did. but then i didnt touch the restricted drivers manager when i installed my drivers.
[14:03] <Na-Fiann> and again sorry for nagging
[14:03] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - i tried that before but Ubuntu Installer could not manage to create the partitions! so I HAD TO use vista to partition
[14:03] <mads-> Hi. When I turn on my computer is just says "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB..... " on the screen... And it just keeps going. How do I fix this? :S
[14:03] <daninad> hey it's daniel
[14:03] <daninad> how's egypt dude
[14:03] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  when you run glxgears, what framerate are you getting?
[14:03] <daninad> it's cool
[14:03] <juice_> sleepingsloth: so the prob is with the xorg.conf?
[14:03] <swuboo> Pici, Na-Fiann:  Wow.  That's good to know.  I may make use of that myself.
[14:03] <daninad> why are they mass murdering the local australian population?
[14:03] <daninad> why?
[14:03] <dgjones> !offtopic | daninad
[14:03] <ubotu> daninad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:04] <jrib> !guidelines > daninad (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:04] <daninad> because they want to do it all over the world!
[14:04] <daninad> that's all
[14:04] <techgeek40> drhumanist: when you created your mount point did you use anything other than just the forward slash   /    or did you do like /media/???
[14:04] <juice_> sleepingsloth: where does it say the framerate?
[14:04] <PriitM> erUSUL, I wanted it to end up as /folderB/folderA/ but I ended up having /folderB/folderA/ with completely deleted files, some files in .trash and semi-empty folders
[14:04] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  run it from a terminal, it should give you the framerate every 5 seconds
[14:04] <drhumanist> techgeek - no no "/" for root and swap for swap.... I installed Ubuntu before onto other systems so i know the way
[14:05] <erUSUL> PriitM: that's pretty scare :( it is local filesystem? etx3? if true is a critical bug
[14:05] <BlackRece> ubuntu couldn't do partitions?!?!? that sounds like a bug to me or vista is locking the drive!!! summut wrong there drhumanist!!!
[14:05] <mads-> Hi. When I turn on my computer is just says "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB..... " on the screen... And it just keeps going. How do I fix this? :S
[14:05] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  oic, anywhere around 200fps
[14:05] <PriitM> erUSUL, yes it's on local system. I'll report it.
[14:05] <drhumanist> BlackRece - yeah i found that strange too!
[14:06] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  looks horrible
[14:06] <BlackRece> mads: reinstall grub or use livecd to fix grub using sudo gedit .... i've foggoten which file u actually need to edit!! sry but that is part of the solution!! DO NOT TRY UNTIL U HAVE THE COMPLETE SOLUTION!!
[14:06] <erUSUL> mads-: does it ever worked fine or is a fresh install? maybe reinstalling grub helps?
[14:07] <Jupp2> how do I list the contents of a .deb file?
[14:07] <techgeek40> BlackRece: Vista can't lock the drive like that - but it is possible if another boot loader is being used that it does lock the partition --- I ran into that with BDC
[14:07] <sheen> techgeek40, Yahaaaaaaaaaaa : direct rendering: Yes / server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation !!!!! 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz ! Thanks a lot !!!
[14:07] <erUSUL> Jupp2: dpkg -L package
[14:07] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  okay, so you don't have acceleration at the moment. well - i dont know if there is a more enlightened way of sorting this, but like i said, i changed my xorg.conf...
[14:07] <Jupp2> erUSUL, Thanks!
[14:07] <jrib> Jupp2: man dpkg   should say
[14:07] <techgeek40> Sheen: My pleasure - congrats on it working
[14:07] <luisdaniel> hi
[14:08] <juice_> anyone know how to change my xorg.conf to nvidia?
[14:08] <drhumanist> techgeek40 - I installed Ubuntu over Vista before... I cannot what is different now
[14:08] <jrib> Jupp2: dpkg-deb more specifically
[14:08] <drhumanist> I cannot see what's different now
[14:08] <BlackRece> sleepingsloth: i don't get a fps reading when running glxgears
[14:08] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  thanks for narrowing my search :)
[14:08] <luisdaniel> anyone help to know why the ubuntu freeze?
[14:08] <sheen> techgeek40, perfect, thanks again ^^ I'm so happy
[14:08] <techgeek40> drhumanist: not sure - i've got XP - VISTA and Ubuntu on this computer - plus Virtual machines running xp and vista - no problems with it
[14:08] <tinman> luisdaniel: be more specific?
[14:08] <dgjones> BlackRece, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:08] <techgeek40> Sheen: Enjoy it, :>
[14:08] <jrib> !nvidia > juice_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:08] <BlackRece> daninad: political reason not for public reading! lol
[14:09] <luisdaniel> tinman: randomly the ubuntu freeze, maybe somthing like kernel panic
[14:09] <SleepingSloth> juice_,  in which case, you want to run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:09] <drhumanist> so what should i try??
[14:09] <tylerwp> Help :( I was able to get 7.10 Desktop working on my DELL server but cannot get the 7.10 Server to fully work. Any way to copy working drivers from the Desktop edition?
[14:09] <techgeek40> But, I just realized - it's late and I"ll be late for work - so I gotta get - lo.l my boss won't like me late
[14:09] <luisdaniel> and I went to know why it freezes
[14:09] <swuboo> BlackRece:  There's a way to get a framerate on glxgears.   I think it's something like glxgears --iunderstandthatthisisnotabenchmark or something like that.
[14:09] <techgeek40> Drhumanist: i would blow out the partition with the live CD and recreate - with just the et3 mount only /  and see what happens
[14:09] <tinman> luisdaniel: Did you compile the kernel yourself?
[14:10] <luisdaniel> no
[14:10] <brobostigon> !compile | tinman
[14:10] <ubotu> tinman: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[14:10] <dgjones> BlackRece, you might have to use the command "glxgears -printfps" to get the frame rate
[14:10] <luisdaniel> this start after I make upgrade to 7.10
[14:10] <SleepingSloth> BlackRece, presumably there is a switch for versions that do not display by default?
[14:10] <drhumanist> ok i will try that once more..... but it cannot manage partitioning.....
[14:10] <jaggz-> why's dpkg -l '*bind*' not list EVERY bind package?
[14:10] <techgeek40> have a good one all - --- good luck drhumanist
[14:10] <swuboo> Ah, found it.  It's glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[14:10] <SleepingSloth> luisdaniel, beat me to it
[14:10] <techgeek40> drhumanist
[14:10] <techgeek40> one thing
[14:10] <drhumanist> yep?
[14:10] <tinman> brobostigon: trying to help luisdaniel :>
[14:11] <techgeek40> In bios - make sure that you don't have the virus protection turned on - that does lock the boot partition
[14:11] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  so i can edit through this and save?
[14:11] <drhumanist> aaah that may be why!!
[14:11] <brobostigon> tinman: sorry, wrong thing
[14:11] <techgeek40> good luck
[14:11] <jaggz-> Why does dpkg's list not work as I expect it to?  :)     dpkg -l '*bind*' does not list EVERY bind package -- instead, it lists several (bind, bind9, libbind..) but it misses "bindgraph", for instance
[14:11] <techgeek40> have a good one all
[14:11] <tinman> no worries
[14:11] <drhumanist> ok thanx
[14:11] <drhumanist> bbs :)
[14:11] <SleepingSloth> juice_, yes - you need to change the driver from the 'device' section which applies to your gfx card from 'nv' to 'nvidia', save and restart X. however... SAVE A BACKUP FIRST
[14:12] <BlackRece> tecjgeek40: I was close enuf! lol i've had dual booting issues when grub got wiped cos of MS re-wrote mbr and I had 2 re-install GRUB. I know its da bootloader that does the actual locking shame I can't remember how to sort it!!
 tinman: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) <---- this is for me?
[14:12] <tylerwp> Help :( I was able to get 7.10 Desktop working on my DELL server but cannot get the 7.10 Server to fully work. Any way to copy working drivers from the Desktop edition?
[14:12] <vivia> hi there. it's a fresh ubuntu installation, i have a fat32 partition which i try to mount, but all utf-8 filenames are treated as if they were iso8859-1 (I can tell from the result). I have tried with different iocharset and codepage mount options and it doesn't seem to help. Any ideas?
[14:12] <maccabee> hello can anyone help me with realtime linux in ubuntu
[14:12] <jrib> jaggz-: short answer: use apt-cache search -n.   Longer answer, it only lists stuff that has been installed at some point I believe
[14:12] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  its set as vesa
[14:13] <BlackRece> luisdaniel: need more info, what do u do to make it freeze?
[14:13] <maccabee>  hello can anyone help me with realtime linux in ubuntu??please
[14:13] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: update kubuntu to 7.10
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> helo
[14:14] <jaggz-> jrib, I doubt I had bind installed before.. but maybe.  I wonder what it does :)
[14:14] <luisdaniel> after that I have random freezes
[14:14] <BlackRece> dgjones: i'm using gutsy(7.04) haven't been told to update tho, but then I haven't asked either!!
[14:14] <dean_> why do you need realtime player in your ubuntu?
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> can some one give me some laptop help?
[14:14] <dman> maccabee: what is 'realtime linux'?
[14:14] <jrib> !helpme | Devils-Haven
[14:14] <ubotu> Devils-Haven: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[14:14] <jaggz-> apt-cache search -n is fine, thanks..
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> !helpme
[14:14] <SleepingSloth> juice_, okay, well it should be nvidia. are you talking from the same machine~?
[14:14] <Devils-Haven> ?
[14:14] <jrib> Devils-Haven: see what ubotu said
[14:15] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  can't i do this from the System>Administration>Screeens and Graphics. and yes same machine
[14:15] <dean_> RealTime is an apple player
[14:15] <jrib> Devils-Haven: erm, just ask the channel your question
[14:15] <Devils-Haven> when i close my lid the screen wont shut off
[14:15] <Devils-Haven> any way to fix that?
[14:15] <jaggz-> apt-cache search is actually really nice
[14:16] <Devils-Haven> dell inspiron 1100
[14:16] <LiMaO> maccabee ➡ do you mean ubuntu livecd?
[14:16] <maccabee> no real time i meant the  embedded linux
[14:16] <jrib> jaggz-: aptitude search is even more powerful: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html
[14:16] <maccabee> no its embedded linux
[14:16] <BlackRece> tylerwp:the main diff with 7.10 desktop and server is gui elements that I know of (i know there are some little bits as well but nothing that I can think of that shud make a big diff!) what's it doing? is it that u can't see a gui? if so, get one!
[14:16] <maccabee> LimaO
[14:17] <maccabee> its embedded linux on mobiles microprocessors etc
[14:17] <maccabee> hav anyone got any idea
[14:17] <jaggz-> is there a linux phone with ssh?
[14:17] <juice_> sleepingsloth:  i'm going for it, wish me luck
[14:17] <dman> maccabee: as in this: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8339055736.html
[14:17] <dman> ?
[14:17] <jaggz-> and a full-sized keyboard?
[14:17] <jaggz-> ;)
[14:17] <BlackRece> ssry ppl I'm a slow reader, i'm back at 14:09:56!! lol
[14:17] <maccabee> linux os i mean
[14:17] <kid> hi
[14:17] <brobostigon> jaggz: nokia n810
[14:17] <jaggz-> my phone was supposed to run putty but it just crashes.
[14:18] <IdleOne> sarmisak lspci now lists Realtek Semiconductor Co. RTL-8029 (AS) but still no internet
[14:18] <BlackRece> l8r techgeek40
[14:18] <vivia> the n810 is anything but a phone actually :)
[14:18] <LiMaO> maccabee ➡ like that a1200i phone?
[14:18] <Devils-Haven> any idea on closing lid and screen turn off? it won't go to sleep ither, unless i press go to sleep manualy
[14:18] <juice_> vivia: u can skype it tho
[14:18] <AnRkey> what gui can i use to configure my UPS
[14:18] <AnRkey> ?
[14:18] <maccabee> real time os examples are RTlinux,freertos etc
[14:18] <vivia> juice_: yeah, if you actually do have a wireless connection somewhere
[14:18] <maccabee> vxworks
[14:19] <ivan_> ivan_ teste
[14:19] <sarmisak> IdleOne: ok, can you check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules if you can see your nic in there?
[14:19] <IdleOne> ping
[14:19] <ivan_> alguem do brasil.
[14:19] <vivia> juice_: not too helpful when you're on the road though :(
[14:19] <jaggz-> brobostigon: lookin' at it now :)
[14:19] <juice_> vivia: usb antenna
[14:19] <jrib> !pt | ivan_
[14:19] <ubotu> ivan_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:19] <ivan_> Anything from brazil?
[14:19] <juice_> vivia: or telnet
[14:19] <vivia> juice_: telnet ? how? where?
[14:20] <juice_> vivia: anchient chinease secret
[14:20] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: did you give any tip?
[14:20] <ivan_> Do anything from Brazil?
[14:20] <drunkmuppet> Ok. Is there a good guide on getting started with Ubuntu Server Lamp - post install?
[14:20] <jrib> ivan_: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:20] <vivia> juice_: how would a telnet help when you are on the road with no wifi?
[14:20] <vicho>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vicata
[14:20] <Oli``> is there anyway to  reset the keyboard without restarting/ when exiting some programs the last key pressed remains 'down' so it really bodges up everything... like now, it thinks i'm holding shift-up =\
[14:20] <Pici> vicho: please change your password, NOw.
[14:20] <vivia> vicho: alright, change your nickserv password now
[14:20] <vicho> ooop
[14:20] <vicho> :)
[14:20] <LiMaO> ivan_ ➡ você nao sabe falar inglês, por favor fale em português em #ubuntu-br
[14:20] <ivan_> jrib: tanks
[14:21] <IdleOne> sarmisak no such directory
[14:21] <vivia> alright, i solved the issue with my filenames
[14:21] <tylerwp> Hey need help... anyone?
[14:21] <vivia> seems they were misterated as iso8859-1 when they were actually utf-8 on the livecd
[14:21] <sarmisak> IdleOne: nice one... what's your distro?
[14:21] <vivia> then i resized the fat32 partition and they were misconverted... convmv fixed them up for me :)
[14:21] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you check ifconfig?
[14:21] <dman> !helpme | tylerwp
[14:21] <IdleOne> ubuntu 7.04
[14:21] <ubotu> tylerwp: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[14:21] <BlackRece> luisdaniel: what's the fast way of updating to 7.10 other re-installing the whole damn thing?!??!
[14:22] <IdleOne> sarmisakyes what info do you need from ifconfig?
[14:22] <tylerwp> thanks upootu
[14:22] <dman> BlackRece: you should just be able to click upgrade in the update manager. back up first though
[14:22] <sarmisak> IdleOne: can you see any nics configured such as eth0 eth1?
[14:22] <BlackRece> Ask the question and someone will answer, eventually!!
[14:23] <IdleOne> sarmisaketh0
[14:23] <woodsoul> !patience | tylerwp
[14:23] <ubotu> tylerwp: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:23] <brobostigon> !upgrade
[14:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:23] <IdleOne> sarmisak eth0
[14:23] <luisdaniel> BlackRece: how re-install everything?
[14:23] <sarmisak> IdleOne: it seems to work then, can you assign an ip to it from your router range by ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x and ping your router?
[14:24] <IdleOne> sarmisakcan try
[14:24] <BlackRece> Devils-Haven: I haven't heard of a fix for that, sry.
[14:24] <jaggz-> gotta focus on getting this work done
[14:24] <jaggz-> take care
[14:25] <zdravko> hi there
[14:25] <Devils-Haven> wow no one uses ubunto on notbooks?
[14:25] <zdravko> can someone help me with octave?
[14:25] <zdravko> I need help in octave
[14:25] <dman> Devils-Haven: on one right now
[14:25] <BlackRece> Devils-Haven: have u got power managment options?
[14:25] <zdravko> the octave channel is useless
[14:25] <zdravko> can someone help me with octave?
[14:25] <Devils-Haven> i am linux noob
[14:25] <vicho> zdravko: where are you from?
[14:25] <jrib> zdravko: feel free to ask the question here, but #octave probably knows more
[14:25] <IdleOne> sarmisak network unreachable but I may have the gateway wrong
[14:25] <zdravko> i have to prepare a few things in octave
[14:26] <zdravko> nope
[14:26] <sarmisak> Devils-Haven: i do use, what's your problem?
[14:26] <SleepingSloth> zdravko, if someone can help, they will. there's no need to keep posting the same question
[14:26] <redspike> Hi all, trying to install a new kernel, copying th /boot/config-file to /usr/src/.config byt i get alots of errors "config:34:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol" any onw know way?
[14:26] <jrib> Devils-Haven: they do but no one at the moment probably knows how to resolve your issue
[14:26] <Devils-Haven> screen won't turn off when i close my lid
[14:26] <zdravko> i need to find numerically the derivative of a function
[14:26] <zdravko> I already tried gradient
[14:26] <sarmisak> Devils-Haven: hmms, that's a specific issue sorry can't help
[14:26] <zdravko> but it is extremely inaccurate
[14:26] <BlackRece> Luidaniel: i've been chatting for ages but i'm still reading 14:20:06 lol
[14:26] <jrib> !enter | zdravko
[14:26] <ubotu> zdravko: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:27] <sarmisak> IdleOne: hmms, it's strange not to have an internet connection with a realtek chipset nic
[14:27] <Devils-Haven> it won't do any activity related to lid options
[14:27] <zdravko> I asked my question
[14:27] <Devils-Haven> i guess not registering the lid?
[14:27] <jrib> zdravko: pastebin your example
[14:27] <BlackRece> oli: u got a sticky k/board?
[14:27] <sarmisak> IdleOne: are you connected to a router or is it just two pcs interconnected?
[14:27] <zdravko> http://phpfi.com/293558
[14:28] <BlackRece> I would like help with identifying which mac addresses relate to which nics and what each nic can see
[14:28] <zdravko> and this is the image: http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vphi2xn6.png
[14:28] <IdleOne> sarmisakwhat is the ifup/down command?
[14:28] <sarmisak> ifup eth0
[14:28] <sarmisak> ifdown eth0
[14:28] <zdravko> as you can see it is very inaccurate
[14:28] <sarmisak> or just try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:29] <BlackRece> here's one for ya, can the windows key be binded to the ubuntu menu?
[14:29] <luisdaniel> its possible downgrade to 7.04??
[14:29] <zdravko> I am sure there is a better alternative than gradient
[14:30] <dgjones> !downgrade | luisdaniel, only by a reinstall
[14:30] <ubotu> luisdaniel, only by a reinstall: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[14:30] <zdravko> but that was I told to use to calculate the first derivative
[14:30] <jrib> zdravko: please stop using enter to break up your thoughts
[14:30] <pteague> is there anyway to find out what's eating ram?
[14:30] <zdravko> why?
[14:31] <jrib> zdravko: because this channel is very busy
[14:31] <vaineh> the best game evar!! (apparenlty cos i havent played it yet) wont work on my ubuntu. is it just me or wont it run on linux? see http://raptorsafari.com/play.php
[14:31] <ontop> I need some help with ubuntu and sound. When I open mp3-files, nothing happends. - Boy from Norway.
[14:31] <BlackRece> Luisdaniel: by re-installing everything, i mean rebooting with live cd (or alternate)
[14:31] <BlackRece> l8r jaggz
[14:32] <filthpig> !mp3 | ontop
[14:32] <ubotu> ontop: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:32] <jrib> zdravko: I am looking at your pastebin.  #octave is a more appropriate channel for this question
[14:32] <ontop> thanks :)
[14:33] <BlackRece> redspike: sounds like u've got a typo somewhere
[14:33] <dman> vaineh: well, apparently it has to install a windows-only game player. sorry
[14:33] <pteague> is there any way to find out what's using ram?  i've maxxed out my 3G ram & swap & no idea how i did it
[14:33] <devilsadvocate> hi - my ubuntu plays videos with a _very_ low brigtness. changing to -vo gl2 on mplayer fixes this. (a) why is this happening (b) can i fix it globally (b) is there anyway to chage the default rendering engines on on the default media players (especially the firefox plugin)
[14:33] <dman> pteague: try opening the system monitor and checking
[14:33] <lastsurvivor> how to list only directories with ls command ?
[14:34] <Devils-Haven> !help any one know a good app like ms streets and trips for linux?
[14:34] <ontop> ubotu: but what do you mean with "free formats"?
[14:34] <BlackRece> idleone: are u using a router to connect to internet?
[14:34] <ontop> something else than mp3?
[14:34] <jrib> lastsurvivor: ls -d */     works
[14:34] <LjL> ontop: those that are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats possibly - and ubotu is a bot
[14:34] <lastsurvivor> ty jrib
[14:34] <ontop> lol, i didn't know :p
[14:34] <pteague> dman> it won't let me...  just acts like it's opening & then disappears... i do have a terminal open, any way to check from there?
[14:34] <dgjones> ontop, things like a .ogg format are free formats
[14:34] <zdravko> does anyone know how to compute a first derivative numerically in Octave?
[14:35] <ontop> thanks anyway
[14:35] <LjL> ontop: the best known "MP3-like" free format is Ogg Vorbis
[14:35] <BlackRece> ontop: have u got a media player installed?
[14:35] <filthpig> ontop, ubotu is a bot, not human. Free formats are written in open source
[14:36] <filthpig> !open source
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open source - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <filthpig> !opensource
[14:36] <LjL> !fishing
[14:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:36] <dman> pteague: try htop. you might have to install it
[14:36] <BlackRece> Devils-haven: google maps!! lol
[14:37] <Devils-Haven> need software, internet won't be avaliable
[14:37] <LjL> filthpig: and it's generally not a matter of being open source at all (most MP3 players/encoders in Ubuntu are open source).
[14:37] <sheen> Hello all, I've managed to install my 8800 GTS G92 on ubuntu, it sems to works well, I've activated dual monitor (one X per monitor) but it appears that the X on 1st monitor is very slow, and the X on 2nd monitor is very fast, is there a way to solve the problem ? I can post on pastebin my xorg.conf if you want
[14:37] <pteague> ok, this really isn't good... seems like my filesystem is currently in read-only mode... crap
[14:38] <devilsadvocate> pteague, where are you trying to write? you usually have wrrite accees only in your home ddirectory and a few other specific places
[14:38] <filthpig> LjL, I din't get your meaning there
[14:38] <pteague> devilsadvocate> `sudo aptitude install htop` - W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock \ E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ \ E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[14:39] <BlackRece> sheen: check gfx card capabilities. can it handle it
[14:39] <LjL> zdravko: http://wiki.octave.org/wiki.pl?CategorySymbolic
[14:39] <pteague> not only that, but i can't save any files & /tmp/ seems to be locked down as well... won't let me open any apps
[14:39] <BlackRece> pteague: r u using live cd?
[14:39] <pteague> nope
[14:39] <LjL> zdravko: perhaps you may want to ask in #octave as well
[14:39] <Repentinus> Hi, I am using dual boot (Vista/Ubuntu 7.10) and I want that if I'll start my computer then hilighted choice will be ista, atm it is Ubuntu, how I can change it?
[14:39] <sheen> BlackRece, sorry how could I know that ? (My old ati works well with this config, I think this one can handle this)
[14:40] <pteague> 4G ram, 32-bit ubuntu (so only about 3G usable ram), 500G hard drive
[14:40] <BlackRece> pteague: try using sudo command
[14:40] <devilsadvocate> pteague, strange. try manually writing to /tmp. also, i sometimes had the apt related issue. not sure how it comes, but i have to manually delete the lock-file (may not be a good idea unless you'v exhausted all other options)
[14:40] <dman> BlackRece: he did...
[14:40] <pteague> BlackRece> i did use sudo
[14:40] <Repentinus> Hi, I am using dual boot (Vista/Ubuntu 7.10) and I want that if I'll start my computer then hilighted choice will be ista, atm it is Ubuntu, how I can change it?
[14:41] <filthpig> LjL, ah, nevermind. Got it ;)
[14:41] <dman> pteague: try restarting maybe? it'll either help or completely screw you though
[14:41] <Pici> !repeat | Repentinus
[14:41] <ubotu> Repentinus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:41] <BlackRece> repentinus: change the settings in GRUB boot loader, as to what actual settings u need, i'd have to search and get back to u.
[14:41] <LjL> filthpig: it's generally a problem with patents, not source.,
[14:41] <pteague> `echo "blah" > /tmp/tmp.txt` - bash: /tmp/tmp.txt: Read-only file system
[14:41] <Repentinus> How I can change GRUB settings?
[14:41] <pteague> get the same thing using sudo
[14:41] <BlackRece> pteague: sry, i'm behind by a few lines!!!
[14:42] <erUSUL> Repentinus: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:42] <pteague> hehe, np
[14:42] <BlackRece> brb, got sort da kids!!1
[14:42] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, you need to change the 'Default' lin in /boot/grub/menu.list
[14:42] <dman> Repentinus: try qgrubeditor. works well for a gui to grub. search it
[14:42] <pteague> k, rebooting
[14:42] <dman> pteague: good luck
[14:42] <filthpig> LjL, silly mistake on my part.
[14:42] <erUSUL> pteague: maybe the fiesystem was mounted read only becouse of not recoverable errors????
[14:42] <drunkmuppet> ok im trying to install a basic gui for ubuntu server, I removed the # for the universe/multiverse but it still can't find a gui package.
[14:43] <IdleOne> ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <drunkmuppet> yes it doesn't find the pacakge
[14:43] <IdleOne> that is the package name
[14:43] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, did you do an apt-get update?
[14:43] <LjL> drunkmuppet: ubuntu-desktop is in main, so it has to find it unless you don't have main enabled (which would seem pretty serious)
[14:43] <IdleOne> apt-get update then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <filthpig> I should have referred to the GPL, not open source as such
[14:43] <dman> general question here: i have my external hard drive what i the best format (read: quickest, easiest) to make it to have it accessible by both windows and linux?
[14:44] <drunkmuppet> got lots of 404's
[14:44] <LjL> filthpig: not much to do with the GPL either, GPL says it's open source and that's it.
[14:44] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I wonder if someone can help me restore my samba shares, which are fed to the xbox.  I tried to share the same folders in windows, and now they do not work in Linux.  I've tried stopping and restarting samba daemons, but that does not work?
[14:44] <devilsadvocate> filthpig, you are even more incorrect if yyou had said gpl
[14:44] <K_Nine> dmnm fat 32
[14:44] <mikebeecham> what is the command in Alt + F2 to access the share folder?
[14:44] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, are you behind a firewall or proxy?
[14:44] <dman> drunkmuppet: sounds like no internet. i got that problm from a bad install. a reinstall fixed it. might be a diff. prob tho
[14:44] <drunkmuppet> I'm doing this through Vm-ware
[14:45] <redspike> BlackRece: what do you mean?
[14:45] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, its possible your vm-server is not setup to rely network traffic?
[14:45] <filthpig> LjL, devilsadvocate, how come? GPL says the format is free (as in speech) to use, duplicate and modify
[14:45] <dman> K_Nine: that's what i thought. that's the format they are now.
[14:46] <LjL> filthpig: eh? how can you duplicate a *format*?
[14:46] <drunkmuppet> It is setup, however i'm at work, where computers need to be registered first. And it thinks my vmware is a new computer.
[14:46] <LjL> filthpig: anyway, no, you're wrong, but please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss this further
[14:46] <devilsadvocate> filthpig, if a codec were gpl'd, it would be free. but not all free formats are gpl'd
[14:46] <drunkmuppet> Did this from home last night, and had no problem. I assume this is the issue.
[14:46] <pteague_other> ok, reboot isn't doing to well... i'm having to run fsck
[14:46] <mikebeecham> hi guys....I wonder if someone can help me restore my samba shares, which are fed to the xbox.  I tried to share the same folders in windows, and now they do not work in Linux.  I've tried stopping and restarting samba daemons, but that does not work?
[14:46] <BlackRece> right, im back
[14:46] <pteague_other> ok, that's not good, just had it spew a whole page of inodes
[14:47] <AngryElf> what is 'watchdog'?
[14:47] <dman> drunkmuppet: definitely internet then. there must be something preventing the computer from gettig intenet
[14:47] <devilsadvocate> mikebeecham,  you want to see your shares that are on a windows computer, or do you want to set up a share on your ubunut?
[14:48] <erUSUL> pteague_other: no; no good... when linux mounts a fs read only something is quite wrong...
[14:48] <BlackRece> redspike: from the error u pasted, it sounds like something was mis-typed but i cannot be more specific
[14:48] <filthpig> devilsadvocate, maybe not exactly, but some other, similar licence
[14:48] <redspike> BlackRece: ahh ok
[14:48] <BlackRece> where the one on about dual booting wid vista and 7.10?
[14:48] <pteague_other> & it's a brand new drive... just past the 30 days for returning to newegg :(
[14:48] <nmsa> someone using pptp? I need some help going out of the network
[14:49] <redspike> BlackRece: n the .config ?
[14:49] <drunkmuppets> Ok I think I got it :P Hopped on wireless where I don't have to register ;)
[14:49] <devilsadvocate> pteague_other, do you have extensive disk usage and very long uptimes?
[14:49] <BlackRece> redspike: where did the error come from?
[14:49] <redspike> BlackRece: when i run make menuconfig
[14:50] <redspike> BlackRece: and Load the .config
[14:50] <erUSUL> redspike: most likely you do not have libncurses5-dev iirc
[14:50] <redspike> BlackRece: .config:1017:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol INPUT_TSDEV
[14:50] <devilsadvocate> pteague_other, using my ext drives on windows for long periods without booting into windows and hence without running fsck made my drives a mess. fsck took about half an hour to run through it :|
[14:50] <tiny> Hi! How do I install ubuntu from a nfs share? What's the install parameter? For example Suse would have something like "install=nfs://192.168.10.99/mnt/sda1/share/ubuntu-7.10-server"
[14:50] <redspike> erUSUL: libncurses5-dev is already the newest version. make menuconfig strats.. i get iot when i try to load the config file
[14:51] <Repentinus> Is there any online documentation about grub?
[14:51] <BlackRece> redspike: are u trying to put items inrepentus: yes gimmie a mo...
[14:51] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, loads of it. but all you need to do is change the number next to default in the menu.list
[14:51] <tiny> I have the PXE booting and I can do a net install with net initrd image. But I'd like an install from a nfs share which is basically a 7.10 loop mounted iso image.
[14:51] <erUSUL> redspike: can you paste the erros you get?
[14:51] <erUSUL> !paste | redspike
[14:51] <ubotu> redspike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:52] <Repentinus> devil, I can't even find menu.list
[14:52] <BlackRece> redspike: tristate touchscreen interface?!?!!?
[14:52] <K_Nine> Repentinus try this page http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html
[14:52] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, are you comfortable on a command line?
[14:52] <pteague_other> devilsadvocate> nope, at least not that i'm aware of...  i installed windows for dual-boot, but have yet to use it other than to finish install process... otherwise it's all been linux... i've set up a couple of VMs for testing purposes, but i've not done much with them... otherwise i'm not sure what i'm doing that would cause disk thrashing
[14:52] <Repentinus> Not exactly
[14:52] <redspike> BlackRece: is comes when i try to open th /boot/config-KERNELVERSION config fiel to build a new one
[14:53] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, ok. just open up a terminal and type in "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.list"
[14:53] <mask> hi i have some queries about uclibc
[14:53] <redspike> ubotu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54213/
[14:54] <BlackRece> redspike: AAAHHHH!!!! that's beyond my knowledge, i'm a coder so errors like that sound familiar to me sry to lead u on
[14:54] <devilsadvocate> pteague_other, does fsck give up entirely, or is it still trying to run?
[14:54] <tiny> got it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[14:54] <redspike> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54213/
[14:54] <mask> is libpthread-0.9.27.so used by embedded linux kernel
[14:54] <redspike> BlackRece: np :) thanx for youre time.
[14:55] <BlackRece> redspike: what have u done so far?
[14:55] <Repentinus> devil, it is em pty
[14:55] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, my bad. it was menu.lst
[14:55] <erUSUL> redspike: what linux sources are you using?
[14:55] <mask> if so then is there any way to replace that lib with some other version while the system is up and runing
[14:55] <redspike> 2.6.24 from kernel.org
[14:55] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, just close the empty text file, edit the command, and run it again
[14:56] <Repentinus> Done
[14:56] <redspike> get the same with linxu-source from apt to.
[14:56] <drunkmuppets> ok, I did a sudo apt-get update
[14:56] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, theres a line that starts with "Default"
[14:56] <erUSUL> redspike: you'd better run make oldconfig before make menuconfig.... ubuntu configs has many simbols not in vanilla becouse is heavely patched
[14:56] <drunkmuppets> and I still cannot find the ubuntu-desktop package.
[14:56] <Repentinus> Default num?
[14:57] <erUSUL> redspike: oldconfig should give you a .config suitable to run a make menuconfig
[14:57] <BlackRece> redspike: from a noob kernal builder view, have u seen the text INPUT_TSDEV in the code that ur rebuilding?
[14:57] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, yes. you just have to change the line number to reflect the line that lists your vista installtion
[14:57] <devilsadvocate> drunkmuppet, you're apt update ran fine?
[14:57] <drunkmuppets> yes.
[14:57] <Repentinus> Current is 4, if i'll boot then vista is showed 4th
[14:57] <BlackRece> redspike: ignore me
[14:57] <drunkmuppets> Hit on all, up to date on universe/multiverse.
[14:58] <mask> anyone help me
[14:58] <Repentinus> Current 0
[14:58] <redspike> erUSUL: can i not get the linux-server source? all i whant to do is the change the kernel Hz from 100 to 1000
[14:58] <Repentinus> So should I put 3 or 4?
[14:58] <redspike> BlackRece: INPUT_TSDEV? no icant remember u have seen it.
[14:59] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, if i remember correctly, changin it to 4 should it. but I'm afraid in not certain. it may even be 3. would you mind trying it out ? :P
[14:59] <jtt> anyone know where on the web i can go to do a headset/mic  test
[14:59] <BlackRece> redspike: i'm a coder!! I'd be looking to re-invent the wheel!!! run oldconfig then make menuconfig like what-his-face sed!
[14:59] <panfist> what would you rather have as a home theater PC if you ahd to choose between the two: a pentium 4 3ghz with HT and a geforce ti4200 agp, or an athlon 2800+ with geforce 6200 pcie. i'm mainly interested in what processor will give me better video decoding performance...if either one is capable of decoding 720p h264 then I suppose either one would work
[15:00] <devilsadvocate> panfist, i'd get a gpu that does HD decoding on the GPU itself :P
[15:01] <panfist> devilsadvocate yeah that would be nice if that was supported in ubuntu...hell it would be nice if it was even fully supported in windows. i'm not buying any new hardware, just making a HTPC with old hardware that i already have
[15:01] <BlackRece> panfist: p4 3ghz defo!!! 2800+ = about 1.8ghz
[15:02] <BlackRece> panfist: moo tho
[15:02] <panfist> blackrece moo?
[15:02] <devilsadvocate> panfist, in that case the P4 would be a better bet. I'm not certain, but I dont think videos would benefit as much from the gpu as a game would
[15:02] <erUSUL> redspike: there should be a linux-source package
[15:02] <BlackRece> my onest opinion lol can't spell
[15:02] <erUSUL> !info linux-source | redspike
[15:02] <ubotu> redspike: linux-source (source: linux-meta): Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[15:03] <redspike> erUSUL: ill get the same messages with that one
[15:03] <redspike> ahh meta
[15:03] <erUSUL> redspike: you should not
[15:03] <panfist> devilsadvocate well the GPU would basically be for playing the occaisional game and enabling desktop effects. but i was under the impression that a ti4200 was more than adequate for most beryl/compiz/fusion stuff
[15:03] <BlackRece> how do i identify nics and mac addresses?
[15:03] <erUSUL> redspike: it pints to linux-source-2.6.22 afaics
[15:04] <devilsadvocate> panfist, yeah, it is. They run just fine on an intel915, for example
[15:04] <panfist> blackrece terminal command "ifconfig"
[15:04] <STM> hi all, could someone explain why accessing my samba shares on a windows computer results in a request for a username and password?
[15:04] <redspike> erUSUL: ahh ill try one more time, thanx for teh help
[15:04] <panfist> STM samba is a process that requires its own username and passwords
[15:04] <erUSUL> STM: becouse windows is not that insecure after all
[15:04] <RichW> STM: Thats a windows problem not linux.
[15:04] <panfist> STM i think the command to configure the smbpasswd is... "sudo smbpasswd -d username"
[15:04] <Repentinus> devil, say command again
[15:05] <erUSUL> STM: you have to provide your windows username and pass iirc
[15:05] <eid> how can i address PCs with names in LAN , while there is a DHCP server ?
[15:05] <Repentinus> And I have one problem more, my archive manager isn't able to open tar.gz files
[15:05] <BlackRece> panfist: ifconfig didn't identify BOTH nics
[15:05] <panfist> erusul you need the samba username and password, set by the samba server, not the windows username and passwords
[15:05] <PriceChild> eid, two different questions
[15:06] <STM> erUSUL, windows user and pass does not work either
[15:06] <panfist> blackrece ahh yeah ifconfig is only for interface that are up and running
[15:06] <STM> panfist, i'll give that a shot
[15:06] <devilsadvocate> STM, how are you trying to access the shares. More often than not, nautilus on my computer is able to discover the shares quite easily (unless its set to require user authentication, of course). You will see some other folders there too.. comething like C$ and stuff that are not the usual samba shares. I have no idea whose fault it is that they show up (or who wants them to show up)
[15:06] <erUSUL> BlackRece: then one of your nics have not been recogniced by linux. what chips do the nics use?
[15:06] <PriceChild> eid, configure static ips, and then you could modify /etc/hosts to add names
[15:06] <DarkHelfer> öhm... the Nvidia driver and my X-Server not compatible >_>
[15:06] <DarkHelfer> X-Server can not start
[15:06] <panfist> STM if you amke the samba username and password the same as your windows users/pass it wont ask you for a login because the credentials will match
[15:06] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, what error do you get with tar.gx?
[15:06] <STM> devilsadvocate, i'm accessing directories on my ubuntu laptop from my windows PC
[15:06] <DarkHelfer> can i fix it in the console `?
[15:07] <Repentinus> Not supprted file type and can you say command again to edit this grub file?
[15:07] <onats> i'm trying to rmmod ip3945.. but its stating that its in use
[15:07] <onats> how do i force it to unload?
[15:07] <onats> trying to fix hibernate
[15:07] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:07] <erUSUL> onats: try 'sudo modprobe -r ip3945'
[15:07] <STM> panfist, it returned "sudo smbpasswd -d username"
[15:07] <STM> whoops
[15:08] <STM> panfist, i mean "Failed to find entry for user george."
[15:08] <devilsadvocate> STM - ah. The last time i trried doing that it didnt work unless i setup authentication
[15:08] <devilsadvocate> :\
[15:08] <panfist> STM one sec
[15:08] <BlackRece> erusul:CHIPS?!?! er... macdonnalds? burger king? I dunno! can give u nic names and makes tho
[15:08] <BlackRece> one is onboard intel the other is realtek summut-or-other
[15:08] <erUSUL> BlackRece: it is a realtek nic a brodcom via perhaps maybe a intel chip ????
[15:09] <erUSUL> BlackRece: lspci | grep -i NET
[15:09] <devilsadvocate> BlackRece, is it by any chance an intex?
[15:09] <panfist> STM try the same thing except -a instead of -d
[15:09] <erUSUL> BlackRece: should give you the answer
[15:09] <eid> PriceChild i can't get static IP addresses in my LAN
[15:09] <PriceChild> eid, sure you can
[15:09] <STM> panfist, "Failed to modify password entry for user george"
[15:10] <erUSUL> BlackRece: also 'dmesg | grep -i eth' should tell you if both nics have been configured by the linux kernel
[15:10] <eid> PriceChild, i have to setup a LAB in my university and they are using DHCP
[15:10] <panfist> STM i know there's an option for using the smbpasswd to add a user..because that's what youre trying to do is add a user and set up the password in one step
[15:10] <BlackRece> rece@compaq-gutsy:~$ lspci | grep -i NET
[15:10] <BlackRece> 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VM (KM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)
[15:10] <BlackRece> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 20)
[15:10] <erUSUL> BlackRece: you can post both outputs to patebin.ubuntu.com so i can take a look
[15:10] <PriceChild> eid, ok... so why not just use dhcp?
[15:10] <erUSUL> !paste | BlackRece
[15:10] <ubotu> BlackRece: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:11] <PriceChild> eid, dchp is completely seperate to dns... (naming computer addresses)
[15:11] <Repentinus> And can anyone recommend something to do with my archive manager to open tar.gz files?
[15:11] <panfist> STM you didn't forget the sudo with the -a? because the -a option requires you run as root
[15:11] <maginot> how do I set the dhcp server to set the client default route gw to 192.168.0.1 ? I used the routers 192.168.0.1 option in dhcpd.conf but the clients are not getting the IP 192.168.0.1 instead they are geting a host name that points to dhcp server ...
[15:11] <eid> PriceChild, "dchp is completely seperate to dns" sorry it's not clear to me :(
[15:11] <STM> panfist, i did include sudo
[15:12] <devilsadvocate> Repentinus, ark does just fine. its possible your file itself got damaged in download?
[15:12] <STM> thanks for the help though panfist, i'm googling adding users to samba
[15:12] <BlackRece> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54221/
[15:12] <Ocire[IGEWS]> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu showing me wrong numbers for free disk space... long story short: i ran utorrent in wine, klicked on "delete torrent and files", found that free space didn't change, looked with filelight where the files were, deleted them in ~/.local/share/Trash but still no change in free disk space... anyone knows what to do?
[15:12] <panfist> STM yeah that's how i figured it out. good luck
[15:12] <Repentinus> devil, it couldn't open like 4 different files like that and says file type not supported
[15:12] <drunkmuppets> In ubuntu server, how do I determine what to put in the /etc/resolv.conf file? For the search and nameserver
[15:13] <mohi> hi
[15:13] <erUSUL> !who | BlackRece
[15:13] <ubotu> BlackRece: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:13] <erUSUL> BlackRece: and the output from  'dmesg | grep -i eth' ?? can you paste it too ??
[15:13] <eid> PriceChild, does DHCP provide service for domain naming ?
[15:14] <BlackRece> erusul: dmesg | grep -i eth
[15:14] <BlackRece> damn
[15:14] <PriceChild> eid, dhcp tells your computer who it is, who to ask where other computers are, and where the door is
[15:14] <BlackRece> erusul:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54221/
[15:14] <drunkmuppets> In ubuntu server, how do I determine what to put in the /etc/resolv.conf file? For the search and nameserver.  For the DNS
[15:14] <tiny> Has anyone installed ubuntu from a nfs share? Instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet  aren't working. What are the correct kernel parameters for nfs install?
[15:14] <PriceChild> eid, dns servers tell your computer what ip address a name is associated with.
[15:14] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, I want to use mdadm on 2 drives and use the xfs system, Do i format the drives then use mdadm or the other way around?
[15:14] <STM> panfist, it worked - i hadn't created a ubuntu user named george to go with it, thanks again
[15:15] <Arnaud___> bonjour !
[15:15] <Nach1> hi all
[15:15] <Arnaud___> je viens pour un souci avec ma carte wifi
[15:15] <BlackRece> erusul: there is no out put!!! just gives me prompt for next command
[15:15] <Arnaud___> la connexion se coupe au bout d'un moment, seul le reboot permet de se reconnecter
[15:15] <erUSUL> BlackRece: and "ifconfig -a" ??
[15:15] <Nach1> my toshiba laptop with Ubuntu not detected the cd/dvd device
[15:16] <dgjones> !fr | Arnaud___
[15:16] <ubotu> Arnaud___: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:16] <Nach1> :S... $ls /dev/cdrom ... not results
[15:16] <solexious> !fr > Arnaud___
[15:16] <RichW> Nach1: Post lspci to a pastebin
[15:16] <Arnaud___> please excuse me, i made a confusion with the servers
[15:16] <RichW> Nach1: The output of it...
[15:17] <RichW> !paste | Nach1
[15:17] <ubotu> Nach1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:17] <BlackRece> erusul: ah haaaa!!! that's it!! lol http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54223/
[15:18] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, I want to use mdadm on 2 drives and use the xfs system, Do i format the drives to xfs then use mdadm or the other way around?
[15:18] <stf> hi. how do I check my ubuntu version from the terminal?
[15:18] <dgjones> !version > stf
[15:18] <wyggler2> how do i set the the starting run level?  I don't see an /etc/inittab
[15:18] <erUSUL> BlackRece: so there was no problem at all after all....
[15:18] <BlackRece> erusul: ta 4 dat, shame can't use msdos style help like ifconfig/?
[15:18] <stf> dgjones: thanks
[15:19]  * Timon_Crazy прощается со всем
[15:19] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[15:19] <doktoreas> sorry for bit OT but anyone knows how many connection can hold an access point?
[15:19] <Ocire[IGEWS]> does nobody have an idea about my problem?
[15:19] <stf> Where can I read about creating usplash themes for Ubuntu Dapper?
[15:20] <BlackRece> erusul: never a problem, just I want to setup this linux box (lappy) as a gateway to my internal network and needed to know which nic had which mac so i could confirure iptables rules.
[15:21] <BlackRece> all: i'll be back in a mo 4 more help anyway!! lol
[15:22] <Nach1> RichW http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4029/
[15:23] <kylcrow> My wireless internet will on stay connected for about a minute. I could really use some assistance, I am new to Ubuntu.
[15:23] <pepperjack> stf: id assume the only issue is the resolution and image type you should be able to create any old image and use convert that you get when you apt-get imagemagick to convert to appropriate format though i dont know what that format is. thats true of grub splash images anyway
[15:23] <AJC_Z0> I would like to register a complaint!
[15:23] <RichW> Sure go ahead
[15:23] <kylcrow> My wireless internet will only* stay connected for about a minute. I could really use some assistance, I am new to Ubuntu
[15:23] <erUSUL> !bugs | AJC_Z0
[15:23] <ubotu> AJC_Z0: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[15:24] <pepperjack> AJC_Z0: #ubuntu-complaints
[15:25] <AJC_Z0> I was looking forward to a voyage of discovery and a series of perplexing errors and failures ripping a DVD to and ISO file, but all I had to do was click on a desktop icon and a couple of buttons
[15:25] <RichW> Nach1: I forgot that doesnt show cd drives...
[15:25] <jon__> <---- new ubantu user here, can someone tell me how to make a "shortcut" to the trashcan on my desktop?
[15:25] <DarkHelfer> how can i uninstall the nvidia driver over the Console, my X-Server do not work with the Driver
[15:25] <kylcrow>  My wireless internet will only stay connected for about a minute. I could really use some assistance, I am new to Ubuntu. Thanks.
[15:25] <AJC_Z0> That's not the unix way. I feel dirty
[15:25] <pepperjack> AJC_Z0: yeah :-) dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso or cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso
[15:26] <mohi> sorry I have a problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4030/ I did with --fix-missing too but didnt help! :(
[15:26] <xGeek> cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso works??
[15:26] <xGeek> Neat, I thought dd was the only way
[15:26] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, I want to use mdadm on 2 drives and use the xfs system, Do i format the drives to xfs then use mdadm or the other way around?
[15:26] <MoCK> hi..i got error when install tomcat5.5-admin > invoke-rc.d: initscript tomcat5.5, action "force-reload" failed.
[15:26] <MoCK> dpkg: error processing tomcat5.5-admin (--configure):
[15:26] <MoCK>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
[15:26] <MoCK> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:26] <MoCK>  tomcat5.5-admin
[15:26] <FloodBot3> MoCK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <AJC_Z0> pepperjack: You can do that, if you trust your CD/DVD-ROM, but better use a tool which understands, checks and corrects read errors
[15:26] <RichW> AJC_Z0's point is that its TOO EASY LOL
[15:26] <SubOne> I accidentally logged in with my password as username, how can I delete the log?
[15:27] <DarkHelfer> how can i uninstall the nvidia driver over the Console, my X-Server do not work with the Driver >_>
[15:27] <LjL> DarkHelfer: you don't need to uninstall it, you can simply instruct X to use the old driver
[15:27] <LjL> !xconfig > DarkHelfer    (DarkHelfer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:27] <MoCK> hi..i got error when install tomcat5.5-admin > http://jasper.pastebin.com/m81c2559
[15:27] <Yonie> hey guys, if it type ifconfig, what is the p-t-p ?
[15:27] <MoCK> dunno what wrong
[15:28] <tiny> Has anyone installed ubuntu from a nfs share? Instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet  aren't working. What are the correct kernel parameters for nfs install?
[15:28] <DarkHelfer> !FixRes
[15:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:28] <MoCK> anyone?
[15:29] <jeffazz> hey all
[15:29] <jeffazz> just wanted some quick help
[15:29] <jon__> can I put my trashcan on the desktop? how?
[15:29] <brobostigon> jeffazz: fire away
[15:29] <Nach1> so... What can i do to solve this problem with cd/dvd device recognition? toshiba drivers for linux don't exits?
[15:30] <roylez> hey guys, I want to give someone a niced login, I changed his login shell to be /usr/nice -10 /bin/bash, but when logging in, it says permission denied. Anybody know why?
[15:30] <jeffazz> ok... when i login my ubuntu how do i get the login screen size diffrent
[15:30] <jeffazz> its locked to 1600x1200
[15:30] <jeffazz> and my monitor dont support it
[15:30] <brobostigon> jon_: there is a hidden folder called .trash in your home directory, just create a shortcut to it, and then copy the sortcut to desktop
[15:30] <SubOne> jon__: did you get it working last night?
[15:30] <jon__> thank you ! ! ! !
[15:30] <LjL> MoCK: try « sudo invoke-rc.d tomcat5.5 restart »
[15:31] <SubOne> I accidentally logged in with my password as username, how can I delete the log?
[15:33] <Nach1> RichW: any idea with my problem... ?
[15:33] <MoCK> LjL: invoke-rc.d: initscript tomcat5.5, action "restart" failed.
[15:33] <jeffazz> how do i change the login screen res size ?
[15:33] <LjL> MoCK: try with "stop"
[15:35] <pavs> what is the command that tells you what kind of system you are running?
[15:36] <MoCK> LjL: actually where is folder that store jsp file?
[15:36] <pavs> ie, ubuntu, fedora?
[15:36] <smaug9> pavs: uname -a
[15:36] <pavs> thanks
[15:36] <brobostigon> pavs: uname -a will only giv e you the kernel version
[15:37] <pavs> right it says only linux/
[15:37] <pavs> i am trying to get informaton about a dedicated server i just bought
[15:37] <smaug9> pavs: like what distro it's running?
[15:37] <pavs> yeah
[15:37] <XXer> Hi I have a question, the motherboard I have uses AC'96 onboard sound, when I play music in XP it sounds grate but when i play the same music in Ubuntu (bunch of different apps) it sounds flat.. any ideas y or what ells I could try.
[15:37] <stf> !version @ pavs
[15:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about version @ pavs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:37] <smaug9> grep through /etc, most distros have a *-release file
[15:37] <stf> !version | pavs
[15:37] <ubotu> pavs: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:38] <pavs> thanks got it it's centos, that means it uses yum?
[15:38] <stf> yeah
[15:38] <zuzki> ïîòï
[15:39] <pavs> thanks for your help. I am trying to install htop, they have top installed inthe system.
[15:39] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:39] <SubOne> I accidentally logged in with my password as username, how can I delete the log?
[15:39] <DanglyBits> anyone know why my nee apache2 website show an Index of /  instead of a index.html page ??
[15:40] <Wogroipl> hello
[15:40] <brobostigon> subone: what do you mean, its n ot clear,do you mean you logged in as root??
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <zuzki> fuck you
[15:40] <FloodBot3> zuzki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <SubOne> brobostigon: no when it asked for username i typed my password by accident, and im worried its in a log somewhere
[15:40] <pavs> crap yum doesnt have htop
[15:41] <Wogroipl> I just installed a dual boot XP/Ubuntu, but if I add a new IDE hdd I get an error 17 from Grub, any idea what I should do?
[15:41] <brobostigon> subone: no risk realy, you will be fine.
[15:41] <bod_> hey guys,. can you recommend an iso burning program, for making an ubuntu alternate disc please
[15:41] <SubOne> brobostigon: are you certain?
[15:42] <brobostigon> subone: pretty much
[15:42] <SubOne> brobostigon: whats pretty much? this isnt my computer
[15:42] <StrangeCharm> i'm having trouble hibernating on a fujitsu laptop. what can i do to make it worj?
[15:42] <bwlang_> wow there is NOBODY active on ubuntu+1... is this the place to talk about hardy issues?
[15:43] <kylcrow> Wireless internet will not stay connected. I have a built in wireless laptop, and i am new to ubuntu
[15:43] <brobostigon> subone: it means there no reason i can think of why it would record it,
[15:43] <SubOne> ok, i just assumed that it recorded invalid logins
[15:44] <juandmx> i want playy !!
[15:44] <tokok> play with yourself
[15:45] <bod_> tokok, lol
[15:45] <alsadk> i have some of wmv files want somthing to work correctly what i do?
[15:45] <juandmx> y play with you sister
[15:45] <_Drax> how come I have:
[15:45] <juandmx> i*
[15:45] <_Drax> collisions:92167 txqueuelen:1000     ... how come I have that many collisions??
[15:45] <brobostigon> alsadk: try vlc
[15:45] <alsadk> i use it
[15:45] <kylcrow> My Login screen has really big fonts, what do i do to make them smaller??
[15:45] <alsadk> but just moving know sound no video
[15:45] <andrer> i have created 5 raw devices, they appear just fine on the /dev/raw/rawX "directory", but accessing it gives me "device or resouce busy" ... do I need to "activate" or prepare the raw devices in any way?
[15:47] <MoCK> i cannot access my tomcat admin
[15:47] <alsadk> !wmv > alsadk
[15:47] <MoCK> i dunno the pass and username
[15:47] <MoCK> how to access it?anyone?
[15:48] <kylcrow> what can i do to get answers here?
[15:48] <kylcrow> no one ever responds to me
[15:48] <[nrx]> hey folks. I've stupidly enabled restricted drivers, when the machine reboot, my monitor now complains that it can't display the resolution. Can someone give me a quickie on how to rectify this so i can get back in please?
[15:48] <[nrx]> !restricted
[15:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:49] <solexious> If no body knows the answer yo wont get a responce, try a bit later
[15:49] <oli> BlackRece: ?
[15:49] <kylcrow> thank you.
[15:49] <_Drax> collisions:92167 txqueuelen:1000     ... how come I have that many collisions??
[15:49] <dowgaia> When I lock my laptop, ubuntu will instead fully log me out. How can I prevent this from happening?
[15:49] <MoCK> !tomcat
[15:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:49] <QuickGold> !anyone
[15:49] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:49] <ibou> hi
[15:49] <[nrx]> !restricted-drivers
[15:50] <neverblue> [nrx], well, your system can probably handle the drivers, just your xorg.conf isnt setup properly
[15:50] <[nrx]> neverblue: how can i go about editing that? :)
[15:50] <neverblue> [nrx], what type of card, Intel, Nvidia, ATI?
[15:50] <[nrx]> ATI Radeon
[15:50] <neverblue> !ati
[15:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:50] <solexious> [Q] How do i set the raid flag for a xds partition?
[15:50] <neverblue> there ya go :)
[15:50] <solexious> [Q] How do i set the raid flag for a *xfs* partition?
[15:50] <[nrx]> neverblue, the problem is i can't get into the machine now - monitor wont display anything
[15:51] <neverblue> [nrx], this is where the fun of linux begins :D
[15:51] <[nrx]> i remember there's a bit in xorg.conf that i need to edit, just can't remember how to get to it
[15:51] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ when booting, press F8 or Esc to load the boot menu and choose 'safe' mode
[15:51] <[nrx]> i don't get safe :/
[15:51] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ why not?
[15:52] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ do you get any errors or what?
[15:52] <[nrx]> 2 seconds
[15:52] <[nrx]> rebooting it
[15:52] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ ok
[15:52] <neverblue> [nrx], dual booting, or is this another machine ?
[15:52] <[nrx]> i have the normal, (recovery mode) and memtest
[15:52] <[nrx]> it's another machine :)
[15:52] <neverblue> [nrx], please keep posts to one line
[15:52] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ i guess you are booting from the livecd..
[15:52] <solexious> [Q] How do i set the raid flag for a xfs partition through command lin?e
[15:53] <[nrx]> no i'm not.. it's already installed.
[15:53] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ make sure your ubuntu cd is NOT in the drive
[15:53] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ then use 'recovery mode'
[15:53] <neverblue> [nrx], do you know nano or vim ?
[15:53] <[nrx]> neverblue, yes. I'm pretty competent :)
[15:53] <neverblue> [nrx], then edit your xorg.conf and run a few tests
[15:53] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ when you log in in recovery mode, edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nv'
[15:53] <neverblue> LiMaO, he has an ATI card, in case you missed that
[15:54] <LiMaO> nemilar ➡ oh yeah i missed that
[15:54] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ then try 'mv' the xorg.conf file to xorg.conf.backup and reboot.. see what happens
[15:54] <[nrx]> so reboot with no xorg.conf?
[15:55] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ then whenever you can just run 'sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[15:55] <neverblue> [nrx], have fun with LiMaO  :)
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: Which ati card?
[15:55] <Manad> hi. Anyone here use OpenOffice Writer?
[15:55] <rsk> Manad: sure
[15:55] <[nrx]> X1550
[15:55] <[nrx]> radeon
[15:55] <Manad> rsk: you ever try to paste an image into a document? does it work?
[15:55] <simplyubuntu> is there any way to sync the iphone with ubuntu cable-wise?
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: Ok, so that one can use flgrx
[15:55] <rsk> Manad: worked last time i tried
[15:56] <simplyubuntu> the wireless method in the ubuntu docs works, but its too slow!
[15:56]  * sid listens to DJ Aligator - Close to You 
[15:56] <[nrx]> Jack_Sparr: yes :) that's what's showing in xorg.conf
[15:56] <Manad> mine is showing a placeholder for the image, with text inside that is the path to the image. It loads fine if I do Insert > Picture.
[15:56] <Manad> I'll go ask on their forums then
[15:56] <simplyubuntu> anyone?
[15:56] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ try what i told you to do
[15:56] <[nrx]> Jack_Sparr: i'd like to keep it using flgrx but I just need to sort out the resolution
[15:56] <ocha> is it possible within Wine to set rez for each game instead of gobal settings?
[15:57] <Pici> sid: Could you please turn of that script in this channel?
[15:57] <[nrx]> LiMa0: i asked, 'reboot with no xorg.conf?'
[15:57] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ yes. try it.
[15:57] <LiENUS> whens the new ubuntu lts due out?
[15:57] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ later, you can reconfigure your xorg by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[15:57] <ocha> is it possible within Wine to set virtual desktop for each games? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678943
[15:58] <sid> im sorry
[15:58] <brobostigon> !hardy | lienus
[15:58] <ubotu> lienus: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: Once you edit your xorg, I can see if I can help with flgrx and effects..
[15:58] <LiENUS> dang
[15:58] <[nrx]> ok, thanks
[15:58] <LiENUS> i guess im gonna have to use 6.06.2
[15:58] <LiMaO> [nrx] ➡ also you may keep the flgrx setting and erase the 'meta modes' section of the xorg.conf file
[15:58] <brobostigon> lienus: or 7.10
[15:58] <[nrx]> Jack_Sparr: it's actual mythbunutu i'm running, so it's okay :)
[15:59] <[nrx]> ohh, that's worked :)
[15:59] <zrah> just realised I've been pronouncing it you-bun-too since the beginning and no-one has corrected me
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: ok, good luck
[15:59] <[nrx]> thanks for your help :)
[15:59] <LiENUS> brobostigon, 7.10 is only supported till 2009
[15:59] <LiENUS> 6.06.2 is supported till 2011
[15:59] <solexious> [Q] How do i set the raid flag for a xfs partition through command line?
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: When you get a chance.. post your xorg to the pastebin.. not in the channel
[15:59] <zrah> I think the name choice was a bad idea for something trying to become popular
[16:00] <davidhc> hi
[16:00] <LiMaO> zrah ➡ i'm pretty sure you pronouce 'linux' wrong aswell
[16:00] <brobostigon> lienus: but after while the updates will be very old,to get newer updates you need a newer release
[16:00] <LiENUS> zrah, i think your name choice was a bad idea for someone trying to get assistance
[16:00] <Wogroipl> I get an error 17 from Grub after adding a IDE hdd to my system, how can I solve that?
[16:00] <[nrx]> okie doke
[16:00] <LiENUS> brobostigon, so supported means no updates?
[16:01] <dowgaia> When I lock the screen on my laptop, ubuntu will instead fully log me out. How can I prevent this from happening?
[16:01] <LiENUS> i would think supported till 2011 means theyl'l have security fixes till... dun dun dun
[16:01] <LiENUS> 2011
[16:01] <Pici> LiENUS: That is what it means.
[16:01] <brobostigon> lienus: for example, the only ubuntu release to have pidgin is 7.10, you cat get it for any earlier release
[16:01] <LiENUS> brobostigon, i dont think il'l be running pidgin on my vpn server
[16:01] <Pici> LiENUS: But security updates != version updates
[16:01] <brobostigon> cant
[16:02] <_Drax> How come when I forced my eth0 to use 100/FD it gives me alot of errors, before that it was autp and got 10/Half and had alot of collisions..
[16:02] <brobostigon> lienus: i just used pidgin as a generalised example.
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Wogroipl: Your added drive changed the drive order...  but thankfully none of the uuid's.. SO read the link on grub so you will better understand what people are asking you to do to fix it
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > Wogroipl
[16:03] <LiENUS> i probably wont need beryl, the new gnome or updated opengl drivers either
[16:03] <kmark> Hello, I have a Ati Radeon X1900gt graphics card and ubuntu 7.10. I've edited many times my xorg.conf but can't make the two displays work. Some times I just have a "clone" on the secondary monitor, some other times I have a black screen which I can move my mouse around but the instead of a pointer I have an "X". Any suggestions? I'm using the fglrx driver and both monitors are the same.
[16:03] <brobostigon> !beryl | lienus
[16:03] <ubotu> lienus: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:03] <chung> hello
[16:03] <LiENUS> what i do need however is a long term support plan, longer than 11 months
[16:03] <alsadk> i have a problem with some wmv files there is no video or sound ? i try vlc , movie player , gxine , kaffeine ? what can i do
[16:03] <alsadk> ?
[16:03] <LiENUS> so that im not reinstalling in less than a year
[16:03] <BlackRece> hiya ppl, i'm back!!
[16:03] <LiENUS> 7.10 is useless to me
[16:03] <LiENUS> brobostigon, reread what i said
[16:04] <chung> i need help
[16:04] <Pici> LiENUS, BlackRece: I think one or both of you are confused about Ubuntu support.
 i probably wont need beryl, the new gnome or updated opengl drivers either
[16:04] <Pici> er, not BlackRece, brobostigon
[16:04] <LiENUS> i didnt ask how to install it
[16:04] <chung> i want to know why everytime i shut down it says fail to shut down?
[16:04] <LiENUS> i said i wont need it
[16:04] <LiENUS> Pici, supported till 2011 means security updates till 2011 right?
[16:04] <Pici> LiENUS: Yes, but only security upgrades, not version upgrades, not feature upgrades.
[16:04] <brobostigon> lienus: 7.10 is very usefull to me, i find it the best running ubuntu version on my ibook, in comparison to earlier releases
[16:05] <LiENUS> Pici, so how can you say i am confused about ubuntu support?
[16:05] <chung> hello anyone there?... i need help
[16:05] <LiENUS> i said i need security updates for more than 1 year
[16:05] <Pici> LiENUS: Then perhaps brobostigon is.
[16:05] <NET||abuse> Hi all, i'm having really frequent instability in my X session,, i'm running compiz fusion and AWM but I havn't heard anyone else having major issues. just after a while, it will just crash and restart the X server
[16:05] <LiENUS> brobostigon, 7.10 would be useless for my vpn server since it means il'l have to reinstall in 11 months
[16:05] <NET||abuse> been having very regular occurances for the last week anyway
[16:06] <neverblue> !compiz | NET||abuse
[16:06] <ubotu> NET||abuse: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:06] <LiENUS> i dont need fancy graphical widgets that look cool i need a stable installation thats gonna last a couple years before i need to reinstall
[16:06] <brobostigon> lienus: you then just pgrade versions??
[16:06] <neverblue> !ask | chung
[16:06] <ubotu> chung: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:06] <LiENUS> especially since 11 months from now i wont even be in the state
[16:06] <NET||abuse> neverblue, well, i'm not sure it's compiz related.. maybe it is, maybe it's not
[16:06] <giandrea> hello everyone
[16:06] <neverblue> NET||abuse, maybe more details from you are required then
[16:06] <chung> neverblue:  i want to know why everytime i shut down it says fail to shut down?
[16:06] <Pici> LiENUS: What about 4 months from now?
[16:07] <LiENUS> Pici, theres a good chance i wont be
[16:07] <giandrea> I'm trying to get mi laptop wifi working, but ifconfig doesn't show the wireless interface, only the ethernet one...
[16:07] <giandrea> the right kernel module is loaded
[16:07] <giandrea> but the interface doesn't show up
[16:07] <giandrea> what could it be?
[16:07] <NET||abuse> neverblue, just happened again
[16:07] <Pici> LiENUS: 6.06 server is supported until 2011. (LTS=3 years on the desktop, 5 on server).
[16:07] <andrer> Something on the OS is using the /dev/sdd1 disk, but i can't figure out WHAT... mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdd1 returns: /dev/sdd1 is apparently in use by the system but it IS not mounted .. how to find out what? lsof |grep /dev/sdd returns nothing
[16:08] <_Drax> How come when I forced my eth0 to use 100/FD it gives me alot of errors, before that it was autp and got 10/Half and had alot of collisions..
[16:08] <brobostigon> giandrea: see what dmesg says as well.
[16:08] <neverblue> NET||abuse, maybe more details from you are required then
[16:08] <chung> i want to know why everytime i try to shut down and it says fail to shut down on ubuntu?
[16:08] <giandrea> brobostigon: ok
[16:08] <Pici> LiENUS: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[16:08] <neverblue> chung, you can check 'top' its a cli, it will display running processes
[16:09] <NET||abuse> neverblue, just trying to
[16:09] <letynsoft> hiredgoon, i have problem with my new HP laser 1020 printer. I can't make it working... i've tryed a lot of ways found on internet but still can't print.
[16:09] <NET||abuse> just trying to pastebin it now.. one second
[16:09] <drunkmuppets> Is there a place I can go for VMware/Ubuntu support?
[16:09] <giandrea> brobostigon: it says it is detected
[16:09] <neverblue> NET||abuse, please try and keep the posts to one line, thanks!
[16:09] <giandrea> brobostigon: ipw3945 Intel wifi card detected
[16:09] <neverblue> drunkmuppets, how about asking your question here, and see if we can give it a shot
[16:09] <chung> neverblue: where is the top and its a cli?
[16:09] <neverblue> !cli > chung
[16:09] <jeansch> Hi, i have problems (on hardy) with gnome-settings-daemon (it don't works) since an upgrade today, does somebody have the same pb, or found an issue ?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> drunkmuppets: Are you trying to run ubuntu under vm or vm inside ubuntu?
[16:10] <Marfi> hey everyone, im trying to get eclipse to compile c++ programs. ive installed eclipse-cdt, but its still a no-go. any ideas?  =)
[16:10] <neverblue> chung, check your private message
[16:10] <NET||abuse> neverblue, here you are http://www.pastebin.org/17591
[16:10] <dgjones> !hardy | jeansch
[16:10] <ubotu> jeansch: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:10] <letynsoft> when i plug USB to my computer printer 'restart' self (i thing this is because there is uploaded firmware again)
[16:10] <drunkmuppets> neverblue, ok.  I am trying to setup a ubuntu lamp server 6.06 on VMWare however, I cannot get the DHCP to bridge.
[16:10] <NET||abuse> that's from Xorg.1.log,, should i be looking at Xorg.0.log.old instead?
[16:10] <jeansch> dgjones thanks, i did'nt know this chan
[16:10] <neverblue> drunkmuppets, what seems to be the issue with the bridge ?
[16:10] <drunkmuppets> Well initial setup fails.
[16:11] <drunkmuppets> Going through the install now.
[16:11] <Marfi> when i go to run the program, there isn't even an option for it in the SDK
[16:11] <drunkmuppets> *Re-install
[16:11] <alsadk> i have a problem with some wmv files there is no video or sound ? i try vlc , movie player , gxine , kaffeine ? what can i do?
[16:11] <letynsoft> heh is was hi, not hiredgoon :)
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !wmv alsadk
[16:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv alsadk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:11] <Marfi> alsadk, you have to install the w32 codecs for it
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !wmv
[16:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:12] <blubb> Can anybody give me the name of a wireless PCI card which supports WPA and works just fine out of the box with ubuntu 7.10? I did look at the FAQ, but it contains too much contrary and outdated information IMO.
[16:12] <bardyr> blubb, intel
[16:12] <Marfi> im trying to get eclipse to work with c++. it won't compile, and i have eclipse-cdt installed. any ideas?
[16:12] <LiENUS> well i'm off to go try and get compiz and pidgin working on my server since they're apparently critical services
[16:12] <bardyr> blubb, most cards work with ndiswrapper and it supports WPA/network-manager
[16:13] <blubb> bardyr, do they produce PCI cards?
[16:13] <neverblue> blubb, maybe start on the forums, search for a brand name, i doubt anyone in here will recommend something that will work perfectly, your going to have to struggle just like everyone else to set it up
[16:13] <bardyr> blubb, i think so
[16:14] <kmark> Hello, I have a Ati Radeon X1900gt graphics card and ubuntu 7.10. I've edited many times my xorg.conf but can't make the two displays work. Some times I just have a "clone" on the secondary monitor, some other times I have a black screen which I can move my mouse around but the instead of a pointer I have an "X". Any suggestions? I'm using the fglrx driver and both monitors are the same.
[16:14] <devilsadvocate> LiENUS, :O
[16:14] <blubb> neverblue, i wanted to avoid exactly that
[16:14] <ackbahr> Can anyone explain to me how to create a script file to simply generate a series of shell commands?
[16:14] <Marfi> does anyone have an idea about c++ and eclipse? i really want to get this working
[16:14] <alsadk> marfi   i try to but i couldn't do that
[16:14] <blubb> there must be SOME card that works fine, and if anybody owns said card i'd like to know ;)
[16:15] <dowgaia> When I lock the screen on my laptop, ubuntu will instead fully log me out (bumps back to GDM, closes all programs). Obviously this is not what "lock screen" should do. Is this a known bug, is there a known work around? Or have I just misconfigured something? This is a workstation laptop, if I leave my desk, I have to lock it, but killing the session entirely everytime is a bit of a hassle.
[16:15] <brobostigon> !hcl | blubb
[16:15] <ubotu> blubb: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:15] <neverblue> ackbahr, try #bashscripting
[16:15] <blubb> brobostigon, i have been browsing through that list for the last hour
[16:15] <Marfi> alsadk, check the link that ubot gave ya. you may also need the other codecs for it, forget the name off the bat. =)
[16:15] <neverblue> ackbahr, sorry #bach
[16:15] <neverblue> #bash*
[16:16] <ackbahr> neverblue: Ok, thanks!
[16:16] <jimat> !busybox
[16:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:16] <blubb> brobostigon, i wasn't able to find a card that was reported to work with WPA and is still being sold
[16:16] <Pici> !nickspam > irc (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:16] <x3o> jo
[16:16] <alsadk> marfi   may be there is an irc channel fo eclipse
[16:16] <Marfi> alsadk, just found it. ;)
[16:17] <x3o> cs 1.6 geht nicht auf meinen wine :<
[16:17] <Pici> !de | x3o
[16:17] <ubotu> x3o: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:17] <alsadk> marfi  did u know about eclipse & java?
[16:18] <NET||abuse> neverblue, ok, rebooted laptop altogether to stop X restarting
[16:18] <Marfi> alsadk, yea, eclipse works wonderfully with java. =) its c++..
[16:18] <chung> any games for ubuntu?
[16:18] <chung> linux
[16:18] <rsk> chung: loads
[16:18] <NET||abuse> is there any chance that you might be able to give me a hand with it?
[16:18] <rsk> chung: what do you prefer?
[16:18] <NET||abuse> chung, tons,, try dosbox and run cool old
[16:18] <NET||abuse> chung, tons,, try dosbox and run cool old games
[16:19] <dowgaia> commander keen!
[16:19] <NET||abuse> chung, or install chromium which is fun
[16:19] <Tobias92> Hello ubuntu people. Quick question: has anybody succeeded in using a WinTV-USB external tv-card with Ubuntu or whatever linux distribution? The usbvision drivers wont compile on my pc :(
[16:19] <tokok> chung: loads... of crap
[16:19] <chung> actions, rpg, shooting and all sorts but i don't like boring games
[16:19] <rsk> chung: then i recomend quakeworld, get it at www.nquake.com
[16:19] <neverblue> NET||abuse, did you turn off compiz and still have issues?
[16:20] <rsk> chung: also wesnoth 'sudo apt-get install wesnoth'
[16:20] <alsadk> marfi  openbookproject.com
[16:20] <NET||abuse> neverblue, yeh, did "metacity --replace" and it still crashed
[16:20] <chung> ok thanks rsk
[16:20] <neverblue> then its not compiz, necessarily NET||abuse
[16:20] <NET||abuse> neverblue, well this is what i suspect
[16:20] <Marfi> alsadk, ?? lol
[16:20] <h4L1m> helloo, i need help in the shell, i mean with the cut command, i want to let it cut the last characters of another output but it only cuts just one character, how can i let it cut the last characters?
[16:21] <neverblue> NET||abuse, did you change anything just before the issues happened, that might have triggered it ?
[16:21] <crush_groove> brb
[16:21] <NET||abuse> neverblue, nothing major that i can think of
[16:21] <evil_tech> has anyone else had compiz break after installing 8.443 ATI driver?
[16:21] <kyle__> how do i get music to play in amarok for some reason i'm getting and error "audio output is unavaible; device is busy. xine parameters"
[16:21] <kyle__> it usually works :o
[16:21] <NET||abuse> the last big change i made was 2 months ago,, updated innotek
[16:22] <alsadk> marfi  www.openbookproject.net
[16:22] <Marfi> alsadk, ty.
[16:22] <Yattie> i m in malaysia and using kubuntu gutsy the prob was internet connection
[16:22] <h4L1m> heloo, i need help with the cut command in the shell, i want to let it cut the last characters of another output but it only cuts just one character, how can i let it cut the last characters?
[16:22] <h4L1m> hello*
[16:22] <ejer> kyle__: you could try killing xine manually but a reboot would probably clear it too
[16:22] <ibou> should i chose ABR, CBR, VBR or VBR-NEW for the highest compression quality with lame (mp3) ?
[16:22] <Yattie> about default gateway and static ip plz anybody
[16:23] <chung> what kind of game is wesnoth?
[16:23] <kyle__> how do i kill xine?
[16:23] <kyle__> and what is xine? :o
[16:23] <ejer> h4L1m: you should look into sed
[16:23] <Yattie> tikam ja kyle__
[16:23] <Skfarek> re
[16:23] <alsadk> marfi ty ???
[16:24] <ubuntunut> Hey guys. Is there a list of what processes CAN be disabled under a default Ubuntu install? I'm running from a laptop and hoping to cut down on power consumption
[16:24] <Skfarek> what is difference between LM_AC and NOLM_AC ?
[16:24] <kyle__> what's tikam?
[16:24] <neverblue> NET||abuse, well, put some system information on pastebin, and someone in the channel might be able to help you
[16:24] <thannoy> kyle__: xine is a video player. try "pkill xine" in a console
[16:24] <h4L1m> ejer, with which parameter?
[16:24] <michael> chung, wensworth is a RPG. not the best graphics but a good story line and a nice tutorial
[16:24] <ejer> h4L1m: depends, look for sed guide on google
[16:24] <h4L1m> ejer, ok thx a lot
[16:24] <chung> ok and any other games for ubuntu
[16:25] <chung> shooting games
[16:25] <neverblue> h4L1m, bash scripting? try in #bash
[16:25] <Pici> !games | chung
[16:25] <ubotu> chung: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[16:25] <chung> can warrock play on ubuntu
[16:25] <kyle__> nothing happens when i type pkill xine :(
[16:25] <neverblue> chung, please keep posts to one line, thanks
[16:25] <chung> yes pici games
[16:25] <DRebellion> ubuntunut: starting point is system -> adminstration -> services .
[16:25] <h4L1m> neverblue, thx
[16:26] <evil_tech> has anyone else had compiz break after installing 8.443 ATI driver?
[16:26] <michael> chung, not sure about shooting games as im more into the board games. you might check out http://sathyasays.com/2008/01/12/25-top-3d-linux-games/
[16:26] <giandrea> My intel wireless adapter doesn't show up in ifconfig, the drivers are loaded and it is detected, how do I make it to show up in ifconfig??
[16:26] <ubuntunut> DRebellion: I was hoping for a more verbose output of what these services are so I don't just turn off services willy-nilly and bork my system
[16:26] <thannoy> kyle__: try "pkill -9 xine", more brutal
[16:27] <evil_tech> ifconfig -a
[16:27] <bullgard4> What programming language requires to surround identifiers by the quotes `'?
[16:27] <giandrea> evil_tech:  only eth0 and lo
[16:27] <ejer> ubuntunut: the services are there for a reason mostly :) have you look at xubuntu? You can of course google the service name to see what it is
[16:27] <NET||abuse> neverblue, system info "lspci" output http://www.pastebin.org/17599,,, what else should i put up?
[16:28] <kyle__> hmm still nothing i guess ill have to reboot :(
[16:28] <DRebellion> ubuntunut: yeah, as ejer said, pretty much all of the processes on your linux box are there for a good reason.
[16:28] <ejer> obvious ones to disable are printing, bluetooth
[16:28] <NET||abuse> neverblue, also my xorg.conf http://www.pastebin.org/17600
[16:28] <thannoy> kyle__: or if xine has a visible window; you could try comand "xkill" and then click on xine window; but if pkill fail...
[16:28] <ejer> unless u will need 'em ;)
[16:29] <live_or_dead> Current speed download: 0 KB/s upload 0 KB/s
[16:29] <ubuntunut> ejer DRebellion: Alright. I was just curious as my battery life seems to plummet (2.5 hrs) compared to under a microsoft environment (4.0 hrs+)
[16:29] <kyle__> no visible windows :(
[16:29] <chung> any shooting games for ubuntu?
[16:29] <CroX> What format do I want for playing my DVD's in ordinary players? DVD-R or DVD+R? I never can seem to remember.
[16:29] <ejer> ubuntunut: more likely related to hard drive downspin, screen brightness, wifi active, etc
[16:29] <chung> can i play warrock on ubuntu?... its a pc game
[16:29] <rsk> CroX: dosen't matter
[16:29] <ubuntunut> chung: All of the Unreal Tournaments will run. Quake games will run (look at quake wars)
[16:30] <thannoy> kyle__: So I have no other ideas to kill it, sorry
[16:30] <DRebellion> CroX: probably, dvd-r is what you wwant for maximum compatibility
[16:30] <kyle__> chung try warsow it's awesome :)
[16:30] <CroX> DRebellion: Thanks.
[16:30] <kyle__> ahh s'ok cheers for trying to help though :)
[16:30] <ejer> chung: you can search here for windows games that work http://appdb.winehq.org/
[16:30] <chung> ok kyle
[16:30] <ubuntunut> ejer: Yeah the wifi probably drains it. Could it just be that ubuntu uses the wifi differently? I mean, I use wifi in windows as well.
[16:30] <ubuntunut> ejer: Ad the harddrive downspin I'm not entirely sure how to control.
[16:30] <ubuntunut> and*
[16:30] <ejer> it is about optimizing these power drains, so look at power control settings
[16:31] <tokok> ubuntunut: wrong, quake wars will not run, it will hang at "load ui" message
[16:31] <evil_tech> ok does anyone know how to get rid of the ati driver and go back to the regular ubuntu one
[16:31] <ubuntunut> tokok: Didn't they make a linux client for that game?
[16:31] <ejer> ubuntunut: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/34 looks decent to start with
[16:32] <ubuntunut> ejer: I'll give it a look
[16:32] <ejer> evil_tech: gksudo restricted-manager
[16:32] <ejer> should do it
[16:32] <balbir> I need to organize the work.. can someone suggest good calander application in gnome
[16:32] <balbir> I don't want to use evolution for it
[16:32] <evil_tech> will that get rid of the binary driver i installed?
[16:32] <cowsftw> halp
[16:33] <ejer> evolution, thunderbird+lightning extension
[16:33] <ejer> balbir: thunderbird + lightning syncs with google cal
[16:33] <Wogroipl> do I have to edit menu.lst for Grub after I added a hdd?
[16:33] <cowsftw> I'm on a new machine, core 2 duo, with an integrated intel chipset, and I'm stuck on 640x480.
[16:33] <cowsftw> Someone help me get to 1024x768?
[16:33] <Lunar_Lamp> When does Edgy lose official support?
[16:33] <SuperQ> Lunar_Lamp: +18mo
[16:34] <SuperQ> I think
[16:34] <ejer> Wogroipl: not unless you are booting from it
[16:34] <Lunar_Lamp> 18months from now or from release?
[16:34] <evil_tech> cowsftw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:34] <SuperQ> Lunar_Lamp: from release
[16:34] <balbir> ejer: i need some handy tool.. something like note pase with a visual alarm will work for me
[16:34] <DanglyBits> I have installed wordpress in Gutsy are there some docs to splain where the directories are and what I do next?
[16:34] <SuperQ> Lunar_Lamp: likely when 8.04 is out
[16:34] <ejer> balbir: maybe look at kalarm
[16:35] <BlackRece> right, does anyone have an updated version of http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-10131.html (ubuntu 7.10 as a gateway)
[16:36] <BlackRece>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54228/ this is my output from ifconfig and iptables
[16:36] <ibou> should i chose ABR, CBR, VBR or VBR-NEW for the highest compression quality with lame (mp3) ?
[16:36] <chung> i want to play warrock on ubuntu, is it compatible?
[16:36] <ejer> vbr-new ibou
[16:36] <ejer> but it is a personal choice really
[16:36] <NET||abuse> So can anyone help me solve my crashing X session? Xorg.1.log, lspci output and /etc/X11/xorg.conf    http://www.pastebin.org/17601
[16:37] <jmauzey> i have a question about customized system menus, i have already set the system menu but root seems to be inheriting from it
[16:37] <ibou> ok thanks ejer
[16:37] <ejer> NET||abuse: huh? you have intel but it is crashing trying to load radeon
[16:37] <jmauzey> the real problem comes from users having this under system admin that i dont want them to have and when i remove it it gets removed from root as well
[16:38] <Juan> hey, i have an athlon x2 4400+ and /proc/cpuinfo doesnt show the sse3 flag even though it has it, why might this be?
[16:38] <ejer> NET||abuse: did you add this? > "         Option          "UseFBDev"              "true""
[16:39] <NET||abuse> ejer, emmm, maybe
[16:39] <NET||abuse> ejer, it's been some time since i was adjusting the xorg.conf
[16:39] <ejer> try taking that out
[16:39] <NET||abuse> ejer, ok,, i'll try that.
[16:39] <NET||abuse> ejer, thanks for looking at it.
[16:39] <ejer> sok
[16:40] <ejer> looks ok other than that but I would try using ubuntu's screen rez editor
[16:40] <cheval> ciao a tutti
[16:40] <tokok> Juan: 4400+ dosent support sse3, if its 939 socket... and it dosent show for my core 2 too, shows ssse3 instead... and cpuinfo display wrong speed for my cpu
[16:40] <NET||abuse> ejer, that acutally could be where that came from, the screen rez editor,, i was trying to setup an lcd screen attached to the laptops vga output before
[16:41] <NET||abuse> ejer, didn't get the best results
[16:41] <ejer> it does a good job IMO, but maybe not for more complex setups
[16:41] <ejer> tokok: it says it does here http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041%5E13043,00.html
[16:41] <ejer> oh for am2
[16:42] <selki> it's a good idea to keep a backup of your xorg.conf file somewhere else :)
[16:42] <jmauzey> is there a way to have root not inherit a system wide variable or have something that alows root to trump the variable?
[16:42] <selki> how do you setup the keyboard shortcut for system monitor?
[16:42] <BigoxD> hi
[16:42] <peepsalot> is there a default gnome keyboard shortcut for displaying the desktop
[16:42] <ejer> jmauzey: even if it is not in list of programs you can still start it manually
[16:43] <ejer> peepsalot: you can set stuff in system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts
[16:43] <thannoy> Juan: maybe "sudo dmidecode" will give you a more accurate flag-list for your processor
[16:43] <Magic1> hai guys
[16:43] <Magic1> I need urgent help
[16:44] <ejer> The Athlon X2 processors are based on the Rev E stepping of the Athlon 64 core and include the SSE3 instructions as well as mixed memory support and support for a full four DIMM slot configuration
[16:44] <Magic1> The head guy of Microsoft Israel is coming to my school and I need to know where I can buy a linux shirt in israel
[16:44] <NET||abuse> ejer, FBDev doesn't even appear in the man page for the intel driver
[16:44] <ejer> no
[16:44] <Magic1> this might be the minnacle of my life
[16:44] <Magic1> by which I mean will be the pinnacle of my life
[16:44] <NET||abuse> ejer, weird, what on earth was it doing in my xorg.conf
[16:44] <NET||abuse> :)
[16:45] <ejer> it is an xorg config
[16:45] <evil_tech> Magic1: print out a picture of tux and pin it to your shirt
[16:45] <tokok> Magic1: hahaha nice
[16:45] <ejer> Magic1: a firefox shirt is good too :)
[16:45] <Magic1> all good suggestions
[16:45] <Magic1> especially tokok's
[16:45] <BigoxD> hi Where I Can Download the sever?
[16:45] <ejer> Magic1: these may be near you, who knows? http://bdcomp.co.il/services/buylinux.html
[16:45] <NET||abuse> still not seeing the relevance of Radeon in the xorg.0.log.. really really weird
[16:45] <stf> Magic1: get one from any international linux tshirt site, if you have a credit card ;)
[16:46] <Magic1> but preferably an authentic linux or ubuntu one
[16:46] <Magic1> it needs to be here by sunday
[16:46] <ejer> NET||abuse: could be the fbdev, there is a radeon fbdev driver
[16:46] <Magic1> and today is thursday
[16:46] <Magic1> so internet shops are no good
[16:46] <tass1412> got a problem with crypttab... it doesn't work with UUID http://paste.pocoo.org/show/24900/
[16:46] <ejer> well, that one is in israel at least...
[16:47] <selki> peepsalot:it's not on the list. I have set up others there before
[16:47] <Magic1> there's a linux shop in Israel?
[16:47] <ejer> Magic1: these may be near you, who knows? http://bdcomp.co.il/services/buylinux.html
[16:47] <ejer> .co.il ?
[16:47] <ejer> it is in hebrew ? :)
[16:47] <Magic1> yeah
[16:47] <jmauzey> ejer: i know but the problem might arise in half a year or a year where i forgot it was installed, this was actually assigned by my boss to solve
[16:48] <selki> ejer:it's not on the list. I have set up others there before
[16:48] <ejer> i don't know what you mean selki
[16:48] <jmauzey> is there a way to associate BUM with the administrator so that non-power users dont see it?
[16:48] <Magic1> beer sheva is pretty far >.<
[16:48] <selki> ejer:how to add a custom program to the shortcut editor
[16:49] <ejer> jmauzey: users would need to be in admin group to use bum IMO
[16:49] <ejer> selki: you should maybe look at using compiz for this
[16:50] <ejer> i would just uninstall bum
[16:50] <ejer> and do changes manually if needed
[16:50] <robin_> Is it safe to run Ubuntu outside of the VirtualBox environment? I screw up my PC very much.
[16:50] <robin_> And have no backupping options here
[16:50] <jeidson> help
[16:50] <neverblue> !ask | jeidson
[16:50] <ubotu> jeidson: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:51] <ejer> robin_: maybe you should backup first
[16:51] <ejer> safe is a relative term
[16:51] <jpatrick> !backup | robin_ :)
[16:51] <ubotu> robin_ :): There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[16:51] <jorge_> XChat crashed :(
[16:52] <jorge_> gone
[16:52] <chung> how do i remove a game
[16:52] <DRebellion> chung: how did you install it?
[16:52] <ToNight> Need money??? go heeeree ---> http://nofate.clan.su
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[16:52] <ToNight> Need money??? go heeeree ---> http://nofate.clan.su
[16:53] <Noezmalo> /server IRC.IRCHAT.CL
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[16:53] <DRebellion> !ops
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[16:53] <neverblue> !ops | ToNight
[16:53] <ubotu> ToNight: please see above
[16:53] <chung> DRebellion:  i use the terminal to install it by using commands
[16:53] <Hyro175> hi
[16:53] <jmauzey> what makes the difference in between the few things the non-power users see in the system->admin the rest of the ones that they dont see?
[16:53] <neverblue> Noezmalo, as well Seveas
[16:53] <nalioth> neverblue: who?
[16:53] <Seveas> neverblue, already k-lined :)
[16:54] <neverblue> k
[16:54] <ArrPirate> i need help. I want to set my computer to a static IP address but it won't work, it won't let me connect to my LAN or the web, but if I put it in Roaming mode it does just fine
[16:54] <neverblue> nalioth, sorry ?
[16:54] <robin_> jpatrick, I've often had Ubuntu be very unstable to me and crash on me lots. I really, really want to use Ubuntu, but just can't, because i keep breaking it, and i spend more time fixing it than using it.
[16:54] <nalioth> neverblue: they've both gone with Elvis
[16:54] <nalioth> (and have left the building)
[16:54] <neverblue> poor things :D
[16:54] <donald_> robin_: that's the power of sudo
[16:54] <Seveas> You ain't nothing but a hound dog, nalioth  :)
[16:55] <robin_> donald_, hmm..
[16:55] <jpatrick> robin_: that's what I did when I first started out :)
[16:55] <neverblue> ah, thank you, ah thank you very much :)
[16:55] <robin_> jpatrick, and now, you don't, anymore?
[16:55] <robin_> jpatrick, how?
[16:55] <chung> so how do i remove games from ubuntu?
[16:55] <jpatrick> robin_: no, I think it's too stable sometimes
[16:55] <ikonia> chung: open synaptic and remove them as packages
[16:55] <robin_> jpatrick, I have the feeling it's really really unstable
[16:55] <sosus_> chung, if you know the name, you can go into the terminal and type: "sudo apt-get remove <package-name>"
[16:56] <chung> ok thanks
[16:56] <proudhawk> morning peeps
[16:56] <neverblue> chung, you can also use sudo aptitude purge
[16:56] <NET||abuse> I have one more problem with my laptop,, I use nm-applet to connect to the wifi point in the house,, but untill 2 days ago it was on WEP, nm-applet had the configuration and wep key stored, then i updated the router to WPA-AES, now the old configuration still seems to be locked into nm-applet, and i can't see how you update the setup?
[16:56] <peepsalot> morning proudhawk
[16:56] <sosus_> Has anyone ever recieved a BadAlloc error message from luvcvideo, know what to do about it?
[16:56] <NET||abuse> is there a profile manager or something that i can use with nm-applet?
[16:56] <Arelis> jpatrick, i have the feeling it's really unstable
[16:57] <ikonia> sosus_ BadAlloc is normally "bad allocation" of a resource, what resource is it using ?
[16:57] <jpatrick> Arelis: right...
[16:57] <ejer> sosus_: eeepc?
[16:57] <selki> how would you add a custom shortcut for a custom program not in system/preferences/keyboardshortcuts?
[16:57] <proudhawk> heh. ok, I was saying hi to all the people in general. didn't know that a real peeps was already online :)
[16:57] <sosus_> ikonia, I am not sure... how do i find out?
[16:57] <donald_> NET||abuse: remove the keyring for your WEP
[16:57] <NET||abuse> donald_, i did
[16:57] <sosus_> ejer, no, I have a dell latitude D830
[16:57] <ikonia> sosus_: what sort of software is it
[16:58] <unop> NET||abuse, i would use grep in such a way to find out which file holds the config - egrep -inHR "wepkey|essid" $HOME/*
[16:58] <sosus_> ikonia, its a video camera program, I am attempting---to no avail---to get my webcam to work
[16:58] <peepsalot> proudhawk, i know, just messing around :-P
[16:58] <donald_> NET||abuse: then nm-applet should ask for the new key
[16:58] <Arelis> donald_, jpatrick: So how can i prevent me from breaking it? Make it bullet-proof?
[16:58] <peace> i cannot start the line.. permision denied... sudo in the beggining of the line doesnt work..thanks..
[16:58] <NET||abuse> unop, the key is usually hashed no?
[16:58] <ikonia> sosus_: have a google around that app,
[16:58] <unop> donald_, it doesnt always tho - it seems to remember configs and doesnt really adapt to change
[16:58] <donald_> Arelis: break what?
[16:59] <ejer> sosus_: try looking at cam in ekiga
[16:59] <proudhawk> heh. well, would you guys believe that I am running a windows OS in vmware on an Ubuntu based host system? :)
[16:59] <Arelis> donald_, Break Ubuntu
[16:59] <unop> NET||abuse, i dunno for sure,  but i shoudln't think so
[16:59] <sosus_> ikonia, I've tried, but unfortunately it seems like this is the program that "just works": for most people with webcams
[16:59] <sosus_> ejer, I'll try it now, hold on
[16:59] <ikonia> sosus_: what was it called
[16:59] <ejer> proudhawk: uh yep :) I do it all day every day
[16:59] <Arelis> donald_, (heh, what a simple namechange does.)
[16:59] <donald_> unop: i usually wait a while till it times out and asks for the new key
[16:59] <sosus_> ikonia, luvcvideo
[16:59] <ikonia> sosus_: is that in the ubuntu repos ?
[16:59] <peace> how to start the command line with echo... sudo echo ...... but it writes permision denied..
[16:59] <selki> donald: wierd that the network manager should have that bug feature fixed since gutsy and still doesn't keep my wap key
[17:00] <NET||abuse> unop, well, even searching for the SSID "egrep SSID ~/*" doesn't work seemingly
[17:00] <donald_> Arelis: i dont know how u use Ubuntu. many ways to break it if u use sudo a lot
[17:00] <jpatrick> Arelis: learning how not to break it, by breaking it :)
[17:00] <sosus_> ikonia, yes
[17:00] <ejer> sosus_: in ekiga, choose v4l2 in video prefs
[17:00] <unop> donald_, nm-applet's always been a headache for me -- i uninstall nm-applet
[17:00] <proudhawk> ejeryeah. vmware is ok. I just with kvm/qemu worked better.... I won't be able to run the latest kernel here. they have broken some things in the kernel later than 2.6.20
[17:00] <ikonia> sosus_: ok
[17:00] <sosus_> ejer, ok, trying now..
[17:00] <Arelis> jpatrick, Well one way i broke it was using Compiz Fusion and AWN
[17:00] <proudhawk> with=wish
[17:00] <ikonia> sosus_: your on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[17:00] <unop> NET||abuse,  you arent using egrep in the right way there
[17:00] <Arelis> jpatrick, the other was configuring my desktop
[17:00] <ikonia> sosus_: and 32bit ?
[17:00] <NET||abuse> unop, ok?
[17:00] <Arelis> jpatrick, another was installing desktop environments
[17:00] <unop> NET||abuse, i would use grep in such a way to find out which file holds the config - egrep -inHR "wepkey|essid" $HOME/*
[17:00] <jpatrick> Arelis: well, I use KDE :)
[17:00] <donald_> unop: maybe u have your keys in wpa_supplicant?
[17:00] <Arelis> jpatrick, and another was installing window managers
[17:01] <Arelis> jpatrick, so that means, that everything broke, with normal actions.
[17:01] <sosus_> ikonia, 7.10 64 bit
[17:01] <sosus_> ejer, so far sound is working! going to the video page now
[17:01] <peace> anyone can help me? :)
[17:01] <moonlite> is it possible to limit a programs resources, ie saying that the program can't allocate more than, say, 200MB of memory?
[17:01] <ejer> ekiga is good
[17:01] <donald_> NET||abuse: maybe change the SSID of your home wifi ??
[17:01] <unop> donald_, i use WEP and just a simple post-up command in  /etc/network/interfaces
[17:01] <NET||abuse> unop, thanks, trying that now.. :)
[17:01] <ejer> moonlite: there is program nice, but it does not limit memory
[17:01] <NET||abuse> donald_, nope,, the other 3 people in the house have their windows clients setup to use it now,, so would be a pain in the ass to go setting up again
[17:02] <ejer> moonlite: virtualization could do this
[17:02] <proudhawk> check ulimit for modifying how much a program can take
[17:02] <ejer> good call
[17:02] <chung> thanks for the help
[17:02] <moonlite> proudhawk: thanks
[17:02] <NET||abuse> donald_, and i really would like to gain better control of the nm-applet profiles
[17:02] <proudhawk> <- old unix man :)
[17:02] <Jupp2> where are theme settings kept in Ubuntu?
[17:02] <dowgaia> When I lock the screen on my laptop, ubuntu will instead fully log me out (bumps back to GDM, closes all programs). Obviously this is not what "lock screen" should do. Is this a known bug, is there a known work around? Or have I just misconfigured something? This is a workstation laptop, if I leave my desk, I have to lock it, but killing the session entirely everytime is a bit of a hassle.
[17:03] <ejer> <- old eunuchs man
[17:03] <sosus_> ejer, it gives an error message: "Error while opening video device UVC Camera (046d:0990)
[17:03] <unop> NET||abuse, you might like to take a look at wpa_supplicant and wpagui - IMHO the combination is better than nm-applet
[17:03] <ikonia> sosus_: what repo is it in ? I can't see it
[17:03] <donald_> NET||abuse: i have changed my wifi from wep to open to wpa and have not had this problem. it will time out and ask for new keys
[17:03] <NET||abuse> I find that my system has issues connecting to various networks of differing setups, i used to find i could not connect to unencrypted networks,, also if i turn off Mixed b/g mode on this router I can't connect either...
[17:03] <ejer> sosus_: sometimes cams can be turned off in bios...
[17:03] <bod_> have we got any GIMP users in the room,. i need some help, and the GIMP channel is pretty silent
[17:03] <ejer> ikonia: multiverse i think
[17:03] <ikonia> !info luvcvideo
[17:03] <ubotu> Package luvcvideo does not exist in gutsy
[17:03] <sosus_> ejer, really? How do I change that? Do I need to restart?
[17:03] <ikonia> ejer: I can't see it in there
[17:04] <sosus_> ikonia, sorry! i mean luvcview
[17:04] <ejer> i am in hardy actually
[17:04] <sosus_> ikonia, not video
[17:04] <ikonia> sosus_ ?
[17:04] <donald_> sosus_: webcam? laptop?
[17:04] <NET||abuse> donald_, it doesn't,, just flashes spinny connecting activty icon in the task tray, then cuts out back to disconnected look
[17:04] <proudhawk> brb, going to see about installing a few mind games on my feisty system
[17:04] <lukasz> The problem Im having with doom3 on linux is Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[17:04] <ejer> sosus_: yes, and press f2 or del during first boot screen
[17:04] <NET||abuse> donald_, i get no prompt for the connection,, it's very annoying..
[17:04] <sosus_> ikonia, the program isn't called luvcvideo, its called luvcview
[17:04] <lukasz> hellp problem with doom3
[17:04] <ikonia> !info luvcview
[17:04] <donald_> NET||abuse: very odd
[17:04] <ubotu> Package luvcview does not exist in gutsy
[17:04] <NET||abuse> donald_, if i click into nm-applet, select "Connect to other wireless network" and then setup the settings manually it works fine
[17:04] <chung> you know the game warsow?
[17:04] <sosus_> donald_, webcam is a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000, laptop is Dell Latitude D830
[17:05] <ejer> http://luvcview.sourceforge.net/
[17:05] <NET||abuse> it's just the automatic connection side, would really like to have that working
[17:05] <ejer> sosus_: it is external cam?
[17:05] <sosus_> ejer, yes
[17:05] <donald_> sosus_: camorama gets any pictures?
[17:05] <ejer> ah
[17:05] <ejer> i know that cam works perfectly
[17:05] <ikonia> sosus_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4240983 something like that ?
[17:05] <lukasz> doom3 won't start
[17:05] <NET||abuse> bod_, hey, i'm a gimp user
[17:05] <ejer> sosus_: i always compile uvcvideo driver manually from latest svn
[17:05] <sosus_> donald_, no, I get the following error message: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0(
[17:06] <iris> oi como vai vcs???
[17:06] <donald_> NET||abuse: out of ideas. i havent had issues with nm-applet
[17:06] <sosus_> ikonia, haha! that's my post
[17:06] <ikonia> ahhh is it
[17:06] <bod_> NET||abuse, do you no what filter ive used to make this background,. ive forgotten, and want to use it again,.lol,.,. (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/Bodsda/?action=view&current=tux1.jpg)
[17:06] <NET||abuse> donald_, :) cool,, well thanks for the ideas so far anyway ;)
[17:06] <donald_> sosus_: the camera might need firmware uploading before u can use it
[17:06] <chung> the game warsow says that i haven't got enough memory to open it
[17:06] <lukasz> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[17:06] <ikonia> sosus_ it says your using fesity ?
[17:06] <NET||abuse> bod_, will look now
[17:06] <donald_> sosus_: have u tried lucview?
[17:06] <sosus_> ikonia, I know, I just haven't updated it, I am running gutsy
[17:06] <ejer> sosus_: does dmesg have errors about video0 ?
[17:06] <bod_> NET||abuse, cheers dude
[17:07] <unop> bod_, i didnt know tux went clubbing :))
[17:07] <chung> how much memory does warsow take?
[17:07] <sosus_> donald_, luvcview gives me a badalloc error
[17:07] <ikonia> sosus_: according to that output your still using the X11 driver
[17:07] <sosus_> ejer, donig dmesg | grep video0 gives me nothing
[17:07] <ejer> unplug then replug the cam and try again
[17:07] <NET||abuse> bod_, hehe,, ok,, the halo of straight line scratches around the tux? emmmm
[17:07] <bod_> unop, yer,. me and him had a good time,. but i think he may have dropped a few too many
[17:07] <sosus_> ikonia, yeah.... I try installing the uvc driver, but I don't know how to switch to it
[17:07] <donald_> sosus_: do u see anything from dmesg | grep uvc ?
[17:08] <abbe> hi channel
[17:08] <Andycasss> how to search in manpages?
[17:08] <bod_> NET||abuse, im after the weird,. acidy type looking backgrond,. not the sparkles
[17:08] <sosus_> donald_, yes, a bucnh of "Failed to query(1) UVC control 1 ((unio)...
[17:08] <abbe> I'm running KDE in Gutsy fine, but I can't see login app running on tty[1-6]
[17:08] <bod_> unop,  you like?
[17:08] <donald_> sosus_: u need firmware. do you dual boot with windows?
[17:08] <thebigham> Hello, i cant seem to set the screen brightness under the power management. Any other way to set the default brightness???
[17:08] <filthpig> how much ram can 32 bit linux use?
[17:08] <NET||abuse> bod_, oh, ok
[17:08] <NET||abuse> bod_, emmmmmmm
[17:08] <unop> bod_, too psycadelic for my liking :)
[17:08] <sosus_> donald_, no, but I have access to a windows machine
[17:08] <street_> Kasda radi :D
[17:08] <ejer> sosus_: try this then reboot - http://pastebin.ca/886378
[17:08] <NET||abuse> wouldn't nkow off top of my head...
[17:09] <abbe> how do I know if bootup completed successfully, and 'login' app started on every tty, hmm..?
[17:09] <sosus_> ejer, I will try that, I will be right back
[17:09] <Andycasss> how to search in manpages?
[17:09] <bod_> unop, ;),.,. check out this one,.http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/Bodsda/?action=view&current=background22.jpg
[17:09] <sosus_> donald_, I will be right back, I am going to try and install the uvcvideo driver again
[17:09] <ejer> sosus_: you may need to 'sudo aptitude install build-essential subversion' first
[17:09] <bcardarella> How do I tell how much space I'm using and how much free space is left on a HD from command line?
[17:10] <donald_> sosus_: not that way. i have a laptop here dual boot vista and ubuntu. built-in cam. i boot windows, and it loads firmware, then warm boot to ubuntu and lucview sees the camera
[17:10] <ejer> bcardarella: df -h
[17:10] <thebigham> Hello, i cant seem to set the screen brightness under the power management. Any other way to set the default brightness???
[17:10] <bcardarella> ejer: thanks
[17:10] <bod_> thebigham, usually through the buttons on your screen
[17:10] <sosus_> donald_, I can use any widows comptuer to change the firmware, though, right?
[17:10] <thebigham> bod_, i mean on the laptop
[17:10] <donald_> sosus_: i think there's a project out there to get a firmware extractor and uploader in linux in progress
[17:11] <unop> ikonia, would you know how to fix this - i can't seem to drop to a virtual terminal (CTRL+ALT+Fx) properly, the screen either remains blank (like it's out of resolution) or it changes rather abruptly (like when you degauss a monitor) -- in either case, the behaviour is not consistent
[17:11] <bod_> thebigham, oh ,.,.kk,. lemme av a look
[17:11] <kapace> k, i have 6.06, and im getting 6.10, when i get 6.10 can i upgrade to the newest version?
[17:11] <NET||abuse> ok,, you can shoot me now
[17:11] <ejer> sosus_: there is no firmware to load
[17:11] <thebigham> bod_, it has buttons to change the brightness, but it changes back when i reboot
[17:11] <lukasz> helllp pls
[17:11] <donald_> sosus_: not that. the camera might need to have firmware loaded into it everytime it's turned on
[17:11] <ikonia> unop thats odd, I assume it works ok if you boot into say single user mode ?
[17:11] <schlicht> hi
[17:11] <NET||abuse> that was dumb.. i had to change into the other views in my gnome-keyring-manager
[17:11] <bod_> thebigham, oh,. erm,. not sure im afraid
[17:11] <sosus_> ejer, what do you mean?
[17:11] <ejer> there is no firmware for that cam
[17:11] <lukasz> I ge tthat error Doom III Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[17:11] <Andycasss> how to search in manpages?
[17:11] <ejer> just a plain old driver
[17:11] <sosus_> donald_, ejer says there is no firmware for this camera
[17:12] <NET||abuse> there's 3 keyrings that i didn't realize,, login is one, default had other settings stored for the wifi piont
[17:12] <ejer> sosus_: donald is talking about his laptop with integrated cam
[17:12] <kapace> k, i have 6.06, and im getting 6.10, when i get 6.10 can i upgrade to the newest version?
[17:12] <NET||abuse> donald_, thanks for the help :)
[17:12] <sosus_> ejer, ok, I just did what you posted in pastebin, I should just reboot ant try luvcview again?
[17:12] <ejer> sosus_: yes
[17:12] <bod_> Just got ubuntu on my dads laptop,.,. finally !!!! yay!!!!!
[17:12] <sosus_> ejer, okay, brb
[17:12] <idefix_> the latest version of firefox, does it have a highlight of inactive tabs on website change?
[17:12] <NET||abuse> donald_, killed the entries in the "default" keyring as well as "login" keyring,,, nm-applet worked now
[17:12] <unop> ikonia, yes it does ok in single-user mode - I've turned usplash off and what i have noticed is this only happens after init/upstart says "setting console mode keymap..."
[17:12] <ejer> you can manually remove and modprobe drivers, reboot is easier unless u know how
[17:12] <abbe> any ideas anyone
[17:13] <ikonia> unop: Hmmm ok
[17:13] <ikonia> unop: let me have a ponder
[17:13] <unop> ikonia, .. after which i can't seem to do anything -- i dont use gdm anymore and rely on logging in at the VTY's
[17:13] <Andycasss> ikonia: how to search in manpage?
[17:13] <Arelis> What can I do to turn a basic Ubuntu install into a full-fledged kick-ass Windows replacer?
[17:13] <ikonia> Andycasss man $command"
[17:13] <schlicht> does someone know why the create of an Crypt Device works with twofish but not with twofish_ia586? twofish_i586 is loaded ( sudo cryptsetup -c twofish_ia586-lrw-benbi -y -s 384 luksFormat /dev/sda3 )
[17:14] <decipher7> can someonene help?  i am trying to get usplash to display on my gateway mx6441 laptop. i followed the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3569987&postcount=4 but no luck.
[17:14] <ejer> Andycasss: press h in man for help list
[17:14] <Pici> !equivalent | Arelis
[17:14] <ubotu> Arelis: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[17:14] <schlicht> error is: Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping.
[17:14] <donald_> NET||abuse: u welcome
[17:15] <unop> ikonia, thanks
[17:15] <Andycasss> When i use manpage and try to use "/" to search for a string, nothing happens?
[17:15] <telexicon> Is there a wiki page on manually installing ubuntu as a xen guest? The Dom0 is CentOS 5, I'd rather not use any of the magical wizard tools
[17:16] <bod_> Andycasss, man    is only for commands,.,. eg     man amarok
[17:16] <ejer> Andycasss: /whatyourlookingfor then press enter
[17:16] <lukasz> hopefully someone in forums can help
[17:16] <lukasz> :)
[17:16] <ArrPirate> how come when i go from DHCP to static using the same network information it fails to connect to my network?
[17:16] <lukasz> well lunch time
[17:16] <proudhawk> xen is a pita. you really need to have the kernel for the OS operating in 2 places (outside xen and inside to instance xen controls)
[17:17] <ejer> ArrPirate: trying to use same IP as DHCP?
[17:17] <ejer> i like openvz over xen personally
[17:17] <ArrPirate> yes ad no, doesn't effect anything
[17:17] <bod_> ArrPirate, make sure your using the same gateways that DHCP was using
[17:18] <proudhawk> ejer never tried openvz. I use vmware and (when I can get it to cooperate) qemu. however, vmware is the old standbye here and works for what I need it to do
[17:18] <ejer> i use vmware also but for server virtualization it is openvz hands down
[17:18] <ArrPirate> bod_:  i did
[17:18] <ejer> ArrPirate: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[17:19] <ejer> that is manual way
[17:19] <bod_> ArrPirate, same DNS's?
[17:19] <proudhawk> hmmm. I'll have to look that one up
[17:19] <idefix_> what would be a good dir to extract hardware drivers into?
[17:19] <ejer> vmware is very heavy
[17:19] <cylex> how do I print to windows machine from ubuntu?
[17:19] <ejer> idefix_: /tmp but it gets wiped at every reboot
[17:19] <ArrPirate> bod_:  yep
[17:19] <idefix_> right
[17:19] <idefix_> ejer so which one?
[17:19] <ejer> pardon
[17:19] <bod_> ArrPirate, ok ,. check that link ejer gave u
[17:20] <idefix_> ejer, what dir is especially designed to contain permanent drivers to hardware?
[17:20] <ejer> cylex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[17:20] <idefix_> ejer?
[17:20] <ejer> idefix_: they usually go in /lib but don't mess in there
[17:21] <idefix_> ejer, am I allowed to try?
[17:21] <ejer> if you have backups :)
[17:21] <idefix_> sigh
[17:21] <sosus_> ejer, I tried luvcview, same problem... stil says that the driver is x11
[17:21] <ejer> you don't need to
[17:21] <ejer> there are apps to handle installing and removing drivers what is the problem
[17:21] <cylex> ejer: thx
[17:21] <idefix_> not with SANE
[17:21] <ejer> no, that is your display driver sosus_
[17:22] <ejer> yes with sane
[17:22] <idefix_> what extension to the apps have?
[17:22] <martachi> ola
[17:22] <idefix_> adios
[17:22] <sosus_> ejer, oh, so do you have any idea why I am getting a badalloc error message?
[17:22] <ejer> idefix_: did you read http://www.sane-project.org/README.linux
[17:23] <ejer> sosus_: not really... do a dmesg | grep uvc
[17:23] <ejer> pastebin it if there is anything
[17:23] <cylex> ejer: is there way to set up network printer from console on ubuntu?
[17:23] <ejer> sure :)
[17:24] <sosus_> ejer, I just get two lines, one saying uvcvideo: Found UVC device and usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[17:24] <ejer> little bit more complicated, and can't really tell you off top of my head
[17:24] <neko_> hi helpfull people
[17:24] <neko_> do you know if it is possible to recover 1 particular file with RSYNC ???
[17:24] <cylex> I have server edition installed, not the desktop edition.. only why I am asking :)
[17:24] <ejer> cylex: maybe http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html will help
[17:25] <cylex> ejer: thx
[17:25] <ejer> sosus_: did you try ekiga again
[17:25] <bod_> ok slight problem guys,.,. ive just installed ubuntu 7.10 onto a IBM thinkpad T22, it booted grub, but now i just have a blank screen,.,. any ideas?
[17:25] <ejer> one big thing is any prog you use needs to be v4l2 compliant
[17:25] <sosus_> ejer, it works!
[17:25] <ejer> :)
[17:26]  * ejer does a jig
[17:26]  * bod_ laughs at ejer
[17:26] <sosus_> ejer, hehe, whats v4l2 compliant.. and more importantly, do you know if skype is compliant with it?
[17:26] <chris710> hi
[17:26] <bod_> hi
[17:26] <ejer> bod_: X is failing to start it sounds like, try booting into single mode and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[17:26] <unop> bod_, it could be that the video adapter's drivers are unavilable, the resolution if beyond what the monitor can handle or an improper frame-buffer is being used
[17:27] <ejer> sosus_: yes, skype should work, and go look up v4l2 on wikipedia if u really want to know
[17:27] <chris710> how can i change the resolution manually cos i want 1024x768 and i have 1280x1024 and when i go to the settings,i only have 640x480 and default....
[17:27] <sosus_> ejer, thanks so much
[17:27] <xopher-> Hi, im having problems with cpu-freq scaling on my amd64 3800+ (venice), ideas? powernowd fails to start, and cpufreqd fails to start too
[17:27] <ejer> np
[17:28] <bod_> ejer,. how do i boot into single user mode?
[17:28] <xopher-> I have sysfs loaded and the cpufreq modules loaded, and Im on gutsy with the latest (64bit) kernel
[17:28] <ejer> bod_: does CTRL-ALT-F1 switch to command line
[17:28] <blubb> .
[17:29] <bod_> ejer, no
[17:29] <sosus_> ejer, I closed ekiga and then tried to open skype.. didn't work, then tried to open ekiga again and I get an error message... do I need to something to fix this? or just reboot?
[17:29] <ejer> sosus_: you could try unplugging and replugging
[17:29] <ejer> maybe the driver was not released right
[17:30] <smaug9> is there a way to remap a touchpad so that the tap is mouse1, the left button is mouse3, and the right button is mouse2?
[17:30] <sosus_> ejer, you're great! thanks
[17:30] <ejer> ;) I do alot of work with webcams
[17:30] <LimCore> I have umask 200 or so for my user, so that all files I create are not readable by others.  But, I want to have all files in /var/www to be readable by others.  How to do it?  Perhaps some sticky bit to directory or something?
[17:30] <LimCore> 0077 actually
[17:30] <ejer> sosus_: my fave program is motion - webcam motion detector
[17:30] <DRebellion> ejer: yeah, that is a neat piece of kit.
[17:31] <thannoy> bod_: when grub propose to choose OS, you can  edit the command-line and add (or replace argument "2") by the runlevel you want (1,2,3,4,5). One of them should ba the single user mode
[17:31] <sosus_> ejer, cool! going to check it out
[17:31] <bod_> thannoy, i dont get a grub option because its only 1 os
[17:32] <ejer> bod_: it should say press esc to enter grub
[17:32] <ejer> 3 seconds
[17:32] <trompet> hi
[17:33] <bod_> ejer, oh,.,. it just said something like that hang on il get it back
[17:33] <PedroMark> y halo thar
[17:33] <thannoy> bod_: with /etc/inittab you could change default runlevel, you could try to find one corresponding to the single user mode
[17:33] <chris710> how can i install graphical acceleration for my ati RADEON 7000 RC100
[17:33] <chris710> ?
[17:33] <PedroMark> open office question
[17:33] <trompet> please help me... i need to know Ubuntu equivalent for Grab++ (Orbit Downloader)...
[17:33] <sacul> i have php5 and apache2 installed on ubuntu gutsy desktop.  However if I try to go to a php page on my server the computer wants to download it instead of executing it.  can anyone help me out?
[17:33] <trompet> any ideas?
[17:33] <PedroMark> am i nubbing out or did they make the fit to page bits go away for the calc in v.2.3
[17:34] <ejer> chris710: try restricted driver manager in adminisration
[17:34] <ejer> trompet: look at downthemall firefox extension
[17:34] <bod_> ejer,  ok im in the grub menu,.,. what now?
[17:34] <chris710> how can i download it?
[17:34] <Thugacation> how do I get Internet Explorer to work in Ubuntu?
[17:34] <trompet> thanks ejer
[17:35] <tvrg> Thugacation: use ies4linux, google it
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Thugacation: Ask in #Winehq
[17:35] <ejer> Thugacation: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[17:35] <Thugacation> nah i dont feel like it
[17:35] <chris710> Thugacation>i think with wine you can use internet explorer,but use mozilla,it's better
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: Not a good idea..
[17:35] <ajricoveri> i want to monitor network traffic on my proxy, squidview only does that with http requests ... i want monitor other protocols...
[17:35] <ajricoveri> i meant other app layer protocols traffic ....
[17:35] <ArrPirate> that link was less than helpful
[17:35] <riaal> What to do when this appears? "aclocal not found" I have autotools and build-essentials
[17:35] <tvrg> since he's asking here i'm convinced that he won't get it working manually Jack_Sparrow
[17:35] <ejer> ajricoveri: wireshark, tcpdump
[17:35] <tvrg> and what's the problem with it?
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: Winehq will NOT help him if he has used that script
[17:35] <PedroMark> ajricoveri: tcpdump
[17:36] <GOAway> halo
[17:36] <tvrg> so, it's all contained in a .ie6 folder, even the wine install
[17:36] <ajricoveri> ejer: PedroMark: thank u
[17:36] <superpany> n.net
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: That script does terrible things....
[17:36] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow:  have you read the script?
[17:36] <bod_> thannoy, any idea which run level is single mode?
[17:36] <tvrg> last time i did it was contained in a single .folder
[17:36] <PedroMark> bod_: 1
[17:36] <ajricoveri> ejer: does wireshark works on command line interface ???
[17:36] <ejer> ajricoveri: no
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: I have seen what it does, and I have talked with them in winehq about it.. something to avoid
[17:36] <PedroMark> ajricoveri: wireshark is a GUI
[17:37] <bod_> Pedro ty
[17:37] <DRebellion> ajricoveri: check out tcpdump for cli
[17:37] <PedroMark> tcpdump to file on one box load file into wireshark on another
[17:37] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: getting a manual setup working as nice is a pain too
[17:37] <ejer> ajricoveri: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/xorg/nmtf/nmtf-tools.html
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: IE is seriously something to avoid
[17:37] <PedroMark> no halps on Open Office for me??
[17:37] <PedroMark> am i nubbing out or did they make the fit to page bits go away for the calc in v.2.3
[17:37] <Wogroipl> how can I add a hdd to Grub if it won't let me edit menu.lst or device.map
[17:37] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: I agree, but he asked and did sound like a nube
[17:38] <IdleOne> need help configuring eth0. ubuntu 7.10 can see the card but cant get connection
[17:38] <ajricoveri> thank u all, i got plenty of info =)
[17:38] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: so i suggested the easy way, the one he'll get working
[17:38] <ejer> PedroMark: that question is not easy to understand :)
[17:38] <Thugacation> yo
[17:38] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: I set it up using vanilla wine etc, cuz i need it for testing
[17:38] <Thugacation> ies4linux looks like shit
[17:38] <Thugacation> should i install it
[17:38] <chris710> where can i download radeon driver for linux xubuntu?
[17:38] <IdleOne> !ohmy
[17:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:38] <tokok> yes if you like shit
[17:38] <ejer> ie is Ssh*t
[17:38] <DRebellion> Thugacation: no
[17:38] <tvrg> Thugacation: do you need IE?
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: You suggested a way that will break his wine install and cause him NOT to get help with wine in the future
[17:39] <kkkz> sera a tutti
[17:39] <Thugacation> yeah for linux
[17:39] <PedroMark> open office calc: printing ... i need the fit to page options and they are gone in v2.3 WTF?
[17:39] <IdleOne> !it | kkkz
[17:39] <ubotu> kkkz: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:39] <kkkz> ok
[17:39] <Seveas> Thugacation, I said don't cause trouble then.... talking like this is causing trouble for yourself
[17:39] <riaal> I need aclocal, what package is it in?
[17:39] <berto-> hi everyone,  when i booted into a xen kernel my SATA tape drive (Quantum DLT-V4) stopped working.  i already have st and sg modules, anyone know what the special sauce in the kernel is to get this working?
[17:39] <jmauzey> i have a quick question: what is the difference between the files in system->admin that normal users can and can not see?
[17:40] <ejer> riaal: i think build-essential should install that
[17:40] <riaal> ejer: nope =(
[17:41] <rama_8086> do any body have any idea about pen computers????
[17:41] <asterios> join #linux.de
[17:41] <bod_> anyone know the exact part of the kernal boot string to change to be in single mode?
[17:41] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: how will it break his wine install if it doesn't need root?
[17:41] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not suggesting you are wrong
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: This is all ot here... go ask that in winehq
[17:41] <PedroMark> bod append single to the end of the parameter string
[17:42] <tvrg> whatever
[17:42] <PedroMark> that is the word 'single'
[17:42] <PedroMark> also 'init=/bin/sh' will do too
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: Suggesting ie4linux in here would be like #winehw telling people to use automatix...
[17:43] <ironfoot_495> Can someone help fix pear on a 7.10 ubuntu?
[17:43] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow:
[17:43] <PedroMark> the first way is prefered
[17:43] <tvrg> i don't say you're wrong
[17:43] <riaal> seriously, where is aclocal?? How can I install it?
[17:43] <tvrg> I want to know why
[17:43] <ejer> huh? ies4linux is fine
[17:43] <ejer> what si prob with it
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: And I told you to ask in winehw about it
[17:43] <tvrg> it doesn't need root, and it stays in a .folder
[17:43] <tvrg> i don't get it
[17:43] <IdleOne> Jack_Sparrow, would rebooting router make it so ubuntu might connect? releasing leases or something assigning new ones? grabbing at straws here
[17:43] <tvrg> ejer: he just says it is, but can't say why
[17:43] <bod_> PedroMark, how do i change the boot line to make me boot in single mode?
[17:43] <tvrg> read the damn script
[17:44] <ejer> well, i use it to test websites
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tvrg: DROP IT
[17:44] <Seveas> IdleOne, rebooting a normal home router might indeed clear the dhcp lease table
[17:44] <ejer> i prefer doing it in vmware usually, but ies4linux is good if you don't want to boot up whole environment... very possible it will screw up wine, dunno
[17:44] <chris710> can anyone help me PLEASE?
[17:44] <tvrg> Jack_Sparrow: you wan't me to stop suggesting it but can't give me a reason, WTF
[17:44] <giandrea> hello
[17:44] <Seveas> !stop | tvrg Jack_Sparrow ejer
[17:44] <ubotu> tvrg Jack_Sparrow ejer: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[17:45] <IdleOne> Seveas, I have a fresh 7.10 install and no internet. ifconfig lists eth0 but cant seem to connect to net
[17:45] <thannoy> riaal: try automake
[17:45] <ejer> excuse me?
[17:45] <berto-> riaal: apt-cache search aclocal
[17:45] <giandrea> why doesn't my laptop automatically get dhcp data when I plug the cable after it started, but it gets the network configuration only when I plug the cable before booting? I need to manually start dhclient if I plug the cable after booting...
[17:45] <Seveas> ejer (and the others), this 'discussion' is getting nowhere, so please stop disrupting the channel
[17:45] <daxroc> IdleOne: Do you have dhcp server on your network ?
[17:45] <riaal> thannoy: ofc! thanks
[17:45] <Seveas> berto-, that won't help :)
[17:46] <IdleOne> daxroc, yes
[17:46] <Seveas> riaal, it's part of autoconf or automake, forgot which one
[17:46] <berto-> Seveas: you're right, just tried it.  :)
[17:46] <Seveas> !compiling | riaal
[17:46] <ubotu> riaal: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[17:46] <berto-> riaal: it's either autoconf or automake
[17:46] <daxroc> IdleOne: try sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[17:46] <riaal> it was automake, thanks everyone
[17:46] <IdleOne> daxroc, tried that no help. says dhcpdiscover gets no lease offers
[17:47] <doctorow> How do I change the font size of the feed-listing in Akregator?
[17:47] <daxroc> Is the interface up ?
[17:47] <IdleOne> daxroc, how do I make sure it is?
[17:47] <daxroc> IdleOne: sudo ifconfig up
[17:47] <proudhawk> well folks, I have to go now. have fun..
[17:47] <IdleOne> minute
[17:47] <daxroc> *sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[17:48] <legion> Hello, ive got a question regarding Evo's use of OTA exchange access. Why is it when i create an appointment it automatically sets the "request response" flag? Is there a way to disable this 'feature'?
[17:49] <IdleOne> daxroc, error fetching interface, device not found
[17:49] <daxroc> IdleOne: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[17:50] <bod_> does anyone no how to boot into single mode from grub menu?
[17:50] <IdleOne> daxroc, just returns to prompt
[17:51] <th0r> bod_ I think you just type 'single' and hit return
[17:51]  * ejer is going to stop disrupting channel with his newbie help
[17:51] <bod_> th0r, and where would i be typing that?
[17:51] <daxroc> IdleOne: Have you tried manually setting an ip for that nic ?
[17:51] <IdleOne> daxroc, yes and no joy
[17:51] <trompet> ejer: i've installed and try the downthemall... i can't find the stream link as in grab++... any ideas?
[17:51] <th0r> bod_ when grub first starts it presents you with a menu for linux/windows/linux safe mode....you can just type there during that 8 seconds
[17:51] <IdleOne> daxroc, tried with roam mode enabled and disabled also nothing seems to work
[17:51] <daxroc> IdleOne: did you add the default route as well ?
[17:51] <IdleOne> daxroc, yes
[17:52] <bod_> single
[17:52] <bod_> ops sorry
[17:52] <bod_> wrong comp
[17:52] <daxroc> IdleOne: What card / chipset ?
[17:52] <bod_> th0r, single is an unrecognized command
[17:52] <th0r> bod_ give me a sec
[17:53] <IdleOne> daxroc, Realtek Semiconductor RTL-8029 (AS )
[17:53] <bod_> th0r,  ty
[17:53] <th0r> bod_ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[17:54] <IdleOne> daxroc, this card has worked for me for almost 3 years . just poped it into a new pc and did a fresh install and now it does not work
[17:54] <ejer> bod_: just pick recovery mode from grub menu :)
[17:54] <bod_> th0r, wow,. a link with the name of my prob in it cool,.,. cheers
[17:55] <unop> IdleOne, is this a wireless device?
[17:55] <IdleOne> unop, wired
[17:56] <bod_> th0r,  what does append mean?
[17:56] <bod_> Append the letter S (or word Single) to the end of the (kernel) line
[17:56] <chris710> please,how can i install my theme gtk 2 with emerald?
[17:56] <daxroc> IdleOne: sudo ifconfig eth0 ( ip on your net ) && sudo route add default gw (your-gw-address)
[17:56] <slade991_> hi
[17:56] <slade991_> i got a problem and need help XD
[17:57] <unop> IdleOne, firstly, is your device even detected ? ifconfig?
[17:57] <ejer> bod_: just pick recovery mode from grub menu :)
[17:57] <lrkr> chris710: you're using emerald as your decorator and want to install a new gtk theme?
[17:57] <daxroc> unop: scroll up, follow the conversation
[17:57] <IdleOne> unop, yes
[17:57] <chris710> yes irkr
[17:58] <IdleOne> daxroc, let me try that command
[17:58] <slade991_> my laptot was on dualboot ubuntu/windows, i recently formate the ubuntu part, and the computer continue booting on grub, and then don't but and i got a error 17 with grub
[17:58] <bod_> ejer,  ok ty,. but i wanna learn aswell,.,.;)
[17:58] <chris710> i have installed it 2minutes ago and i have downloaded a theme on xfce-look.org
[17:58] <ejer> so try editing the recovery line and see how they did it, it is single mode bod_
[17:58] <slade991_> i don't got windows cd here, it's on my parents home
[17:59] <daxroc> IdleOne: Did the module load for the device , check the output of dmesg " dmesg | grep eth0
[17:59] <slade991_> i try to install knoppix on usb
[17:59] <bod_> ejer,  ohyer,.,. ok cheers
[17:59] <IdleOne> daxroc, SIOCADDRT : no such device
[17:59] <lrkr> slade991_: you need to format the swap partition too if you've erased ubuntu
[17:59] <slade991_> lrkr : how ? i can't boot
[17:59] <chris710> Irkr>can you help me please?
[17:59] <daxroc> IdleOne: can you bin that dmesg , and the output of sudo ifconfig -a
[18:00] <IdleOne> daxroc, not easily no. son stole my usb stick :/
[18:00] <lrkr> chris710: once you've downloaded the .tar.gz theme, open up your system-->preferences-->appearance menu, and drag and drop it into there
[18:00] <bullgard4> "smbclient -L MD97600" functions. "smbclient -L Amilo7600" does not function: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" although smbtree shows it. How to get rid of this error message?
[18:00] <kapace> k, i have 6.06, and im getting 6.10, when i get 6.10 can i upgrade to the newest version?
[18:00] <IdleOne> dmesg shows my card listied
[18:00] <ejer> chris710: you need to either reinstall grub or fix the MBR using windows disc
[18:00] <IdleOne> daxroc, dmesg shows my card listied
[18:00] <Factory|TyraeL^> yop !
[18:00] <mario_> olas
[18:00] <lrkr> slade991_: do you havr another computer or boot disk (say for ubuntu) available?
[18:00] <chris710> Irkr>it's for emerald....
[18:00] <ejer> chris710: sorry, wrong person
[18:00] <unop> IdleOne,  did you get "SIOCADDRT : no such device" on ifconfig or route?
[18:00] <slade991_> lrkr:  i m here on my other computer ubuntu one
[18:01] <IdleOne> unop, route
[18:01] <chris710> ejer>xd
[18:01] <ejer> slade991_: : you need to either reinstall grub or fix the MBR using windows disc
[18:01] <bod_> ejer,  the recov line says ro single,. but the line i want to change already says ro quiet splash, do i just add it like this    ro quiet splash single     or do i have to do     ro quiet splash ro single?
[18:01] <slade991_> ejer : don't have the windows disc :/ and how can i install grub if i cant boot ?
[18:01] <StrangeCharm> hey, i'm having trouble hibernating a fujitsu laptop. when i tell it to hibernate, it just goes to a blinking cursor.
[18:01] <ejer> bod_: exactly like recovery mode says
[18:01] <unop> IdleOne, ok, check if ifconfig reports that the device has an IP address now
[18:01] <chris710> i had the same problem....error 17 loading grub....so i formated everything....xd
[18:01] <ejer> slade991_: with an ubuntu cd
[18:02] <IdleOne> unop, 192.168.1.2
[18:02] <lrkr> slade991_: you may be able to format the swap partition using a boot disk for ubuntu, but ejer seems to know betrter than I
[18:02] <slade991_> ejer : give mine to a friend XD and my windows cd isn't here XD
[18:02] <bod_> ejer, recov mode uses      ro single    at the end   but my line already has a    ro quiet splash       can i just add single to the end of the line?
[18:02] <Andycasss> how to install Lucida Sans Unicode font to my ubuntu?
[18:02] <unop> IdleOne, ok, is that address pingable? if so, can you ping your default gateway next?
[18:02] <ejer> you do not need to format swap partition :)
[18:02] <daxroc> IdleOne: can you ping another one on your network ?
[18:02] <lrkr> chris710: wait, are you trying to install a gtk theme or a emerald theme?
[18:02] <ejer> bod try it :)
[18:02] <slade991_> ejer : i was thinking about bouting from usb disk with lsd or knoppix ?
[18:03] <chris710> Irkr>a gtk theme but on emerald
[18:03] <ejer> slade991_: sure, any linux disk should do it if it has grub
[18:03] <lrkr> chris710: sorry about the slow typing, my fingers are taped together
[18:03] <slade991_> ejer : then i can"t use sysconfig on knoppix must use grub
[18:03] <Jewsus> when is it safe to disconnect my external hard drive?
[18:03] <lrkr> chris710: to install the gtk theme, the path i gave you should be sufficient
[18:03] <IdleOne> unop, pinging that ip from windows : request timed out
[18:03] <lrkr> chris710: since emerald is only theming the window decorator
[18:03] <lrkr> not the rest of the window
[18:03] <chris710> Irkr>does gtk 2 themes work with emerald?
[18:04] <slade991_> ejer : but when i tried to launch the usb disk when booting nothing append :/ i perhaps missed something
[18:04] <ejer> slade991_: the problem is when ubuntu installs it wipes out windows' boot manager, so you need to either put grub back or restore MBR from windows disk
[18:04] <unop> IdleOne, errm, i meant ping that address from within linux itself
[18:04] <IdleOne> oh
[18:04] <IdleOne> hehe
[18:04] <ejer> slade991_: you may need to change BIOS settings to boot from usb
[18:04] <slade991_> ejer : yea i do it
[18:04] <lrkr> chris710: mmm, should as far as i know; here, lemme test (and btw it's Lrkr..type lr then tab and i should be the only one)
[18:04] <daxroc> IdleOne: whats the output of route , Is there an entry for your gw in /etc/resolv
[18:04] <slade991_> ejer : but when booting from usb nothing append
[18:04] <IdleOne> unop yes it is pingable
[18:04] <lrkr> chris710: you're on xkcfe-look.org?
[18:05] <slade991_> ejer : think my knoppix not well configurated
[18:05] <IdleOne> daxroc, let me check
[18:05] <ejer> slade991_: not all computers can boot from usb
[18:05] <unop> IdleOne, is the gateway pingable?
[18:05] <slade991_> ejer : mine can
[18:05] <ejer> :)
[18:05] <slade991_> ejer : problem is from the usb not computer
[18:05] <chris710> Irkr>i go to it....
[18:05] <slade991_> ejer : i try to make the distribution working on my own but don't seems to be fine XD
[18:06] <slade991_> ejer : can i tell you what i have done an tell me if something is wrong ?
[18:06] <chris710> Irkr>why?
[18:06] <ejer> sure
[18:06] <IdleOne> unop, host unreachable daxroc /etc/resolv is empty
[18:07] <lrkr> chris710: yeah, i was right; to install a gtk theme, go to system--->preferences--->appearance, then drag and drop the theme file into that window and it should install
[18:07] <benny99> hi
[18:07] <lrkr> chris710: that should be all you need to do; emerald only skins the top of the dinwo
[18:07] <lrkr> chris710: *window
[18:07] <chris710> Irkr>so, gtk themes dont work with emerald?
[18:08] <unop> IdleOne, and you are sure that 192.168.1.0/24 is your network's address scheme.. in other words, the gateway has an IP address 192.168.0.x with a netmask 255.255.255.0 ?
[18:08] <benny99> I'm desperately trying to use pstricks with texlive, but I can't get it to accept my tex-file (which is a pstricks example)
[18:08] <daxroc> IdleOne: sorry , its /etc/resolv.conf
[18:08] <slade991_> ejer : ok, i download knoppix from the website, copy all the files from the iso to the usb drive, copy the files, boot.msg, linux, logo.16, f3, f2 and minirt.gz to the root of the usb drive, and try t boot on
[18:08] <IdleOne> daxroc, output of route shows Destination : 192.168.1.0
[18:08] <benny99> ! LaTeX Error: File `pstricks.sty' not found. -- although I put it into /usr/local/share/texmf
[18:08] <ejer> slade991_: that will not work did you follow a tutorial or anything
[18:08] <benny99> and did texhash
[18:08] <chris710> Irkr>i download a vista theme for emerald....xd
[18:09] <IdleOne> daxroc, /etc/resolv.conf is also empty
[18:09] <lrkr> chris710: well, they do, they both just skin different things.
[18:09] <slade991_> ejer : yea a follow one. What does i do wrong ?
[18:09] <mattia> hei
[18:09] <ejer> slade991_: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/01/usb-knoppix-510/
[18:09] <ejer> you need to make drive bootable
[18:09] <daxroc> IdleOne: whats your gw address , add it to /etc/resolv.conf  "nameserver ***.***.***.***
[18:09] <iKap> am i suppose to create a separate partition for my files and the os? so when i restore.. all the files and programs are still there? didnt quite understand that concept... ?
[18:09] <lrkr> chris710: is the file you downloaded a .tar.gz file or a .emerald file?
[18:09] <IdleOne> unop, the router ip is 192.168.1.1
[18:09] <ejer> iKap: that is a good way to do it
[18:10] <slade991_> ejer:  ok thanx you a lot i'll try this one ^^ hope it will work ^
[18:10] <ejer> i have done it, it works
[18:10] <iKap> ejer, how would i go about doing that? is it too late?
[18:10] <ejer> iKap: if you already installed, then yes
[18:10] <chris710> Irkr>its a .emerald
[18:10] <slade991_> ejer : and when i would have boot how to restore grub or the windows boot system ?
[18:10] <IdleOne> daxroc, ok added
[18:10] <daxroc> IdleOne: its your route that is fubared , sudo route del default && sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[18:10] <daxroc> IdleOne: try ping google.com then
[18:10] <ejer> slade991_: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[18:11] <lrkr> chris710: okay, to install that just go to system-->preferences--->emerald theme manager, open that
[18:11] <slade991_> ejer : ok thanks a lot ^
[18:11] <benny99> nobody using texlive here?
[18:11] <lrkr> chris710: then hit "import" and direct it to the file you downloaded
[18:11] <ejer> slade991_: also http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[18:11] <ejer> to boot windows
[18:11] <ejer> in fact http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_toc.html#TOC14
[18:11] <slade991_> ejer : ok thanks again ;)
[18:11] <Wiredtape> hello, I recently installed ubuntu 7, and am now trying to update.. however, I am having problems... any reason why the repositories shouldn't respond?
[18:12] <IdleOne> daxroc, ping www.google.com returns unknown host
[18:12] <unop> daxroc, but his gateway isnt even pingable - even if route should succeed there, he's quite unlikely to be able to ping beyond the gateway
[18:12] <ThipThip> hey everybody.  I cannot seem to play embedded videos with firefox.  going directly to youtube or google video works fine, but most of the time embedded videos simply do not show up or show up as a white box.
[18:12] <nickrud> Wiredtape: could be several different reasons ; first check that you have them all enabled:  system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four are enabled and the cdrom is not
[18:13] <onTop> How can I open .so-files?
[18:13] <Tweek888> hello, I am trying to figure out what command ubuntu runs after you press "ctrl + alt + del" so I can write a x restart script for my flux config really quick
[18:13] <ajricoveri> can i remotely capture network traffic with wireshark ??
[18:13] <daxroc> unop: If the route is correct it should be able to ping the router
[18:13] <unop> daxroc, IdleOne, i'm inclined to say that the right module for the adapter isnt loaded -- i'd try unloading the module and any other conflicting modules and reload the module
[18:13] <ejer> Tweek888: to bring up logout screen?
[18:13] <unop> daxroc, you dont need a default route to ping the gateway tho
[18:13] <lrkr> chris710: did that work?
[18:14] <IdleOne> unop, how do i go about that?
[18:14] <Tweek888> ejer, to restart x, I use auto login
[18:14] <daxroc> unop: true
[18:14] <Tweek888> but I would like to restart x from flux
[18:14] <ejer> Tweek888: that is actually ctrl-alt-backspace
[18:14] <Tweek888> it doesn't work in flux
[18:14] <ejer> Tweek888: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:14] <ejer> assuming you use gdm
[18:14] <jimat> ThipThip: you have installed flash plugin, but you might not install others (such as mplayer)
[18:14] <Tweek888> yes ejer I use gdm
[18:14] <chris710> Irkr>i have a little problem...
[18:15] <IdleOne> unop, if you would not mind sending instructions via msg so I can follow better
[18:15] <ejer> Tweek888: you will need to sudo that of course
[18:15] <onTop> Can someone help me? I've just downloaded a .so-file. What the heck am i supposed to do?
[18:15] <Wiredtape> nickrud: everything except cd is checked.. still getting failed on update attempts.. should I try a different server?
[18:15] <Tweek888> :Exec /etc/init.d/gdm restart will restart x?
[18:15] <Tweek888> I know
[18:15] <nickrud> Wiredtape: that's the second step, yes
[18:16] <ejer> Wiredtape: you are connected to net? dumb question perhaps...
[18:16] <lrkr> chris710: what happened?
[18:16] <unop> IdleOne, errm, first lspci | grep -i ethernet - find the adapters make/model - then you'll need to google which module is the right module for the adapter - then use lsmod to see if it's loaded and what dependencies it has, unload all of them with rmmod and then load the module again with insmod
[18:16] <ThipThip> jimat:  Do I want mplayer-mozilla?
[18:16] <Wiredtape> ejer, I am chatting here, through this comp :)
[18:16] <ejer> looks like it then
[18:16] <chris710> Irkr>now o have it on emerald but how can i activate it?
[18:16] <ThipThip> jimat:  It's interesting, because embedded videos do work sometimes... like in wordpress blogs, it's usually fine.
[18:16] <Wiredtape> nickrud, no response.. first try was "US servers" second was "Main Server"
[18:17] <lrkr> chris710: once you have the emerald theme manager open, under the "themes" tab, there should be a list of themes. Click on the one you want to use to select it.
[18:17] <unop> IdleOne, quite tricky -- insmod needs an absolute file name to the kernel module -- you can use locate to find it -- usually it's located in /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[18:17] <nickrud> Wiredtape: is any internet working?
[18:17] <chris710> Irkr>when i click it doesn't work,maybe i have to close compiz....
[18:17] <Wiredtape> nickrud, I am talking on here.. so yes ...
[18:17] <jimat> ThipThip: try to put "about:plugins" on your firefox address bar and see which plugins installed
[18:18] <chris710> Irkr>so how can i close compiz?
[18:18] <nickrud> Wiredtape: try opening a page in firefox, make sure name resolution is currently working
[18:18] <ejer> Wiredtape: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:18] <Wiredtape> currently testing "best server" and a bunch are responding..
[18:18] <jimat> ThipThip: about: plugins, without space
[18:18] <lrkr> chris710: hmmm, try going into your compiz settings and checking what your window decorator is
[18:18] <nickrud> Wiredtape: ok, that's covers name resolution :)
[18:18] <chris710> ok thanks
[18:18] <onTop> How can I run .so files?
[18:19] <Wiredtape> ejer, pastebin comming up..
[18:19] <ejer> onTop: what are you trting to do?
[18:19] <slade991_> ejer : your tutorial is for windows :/ don't got the same for ubuntu ? ^
[18:19] <bod_> hey guys,. just done an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   from sinle mode command line,. now thats finished,.. what command do i use to boot ubuntu?
[18:19] <ejer> bod_: reboot or ctrl-alt-del
[18:19] <onTop> ejer: I downloaded NuSpehere PhpED. And All I got was a .so file
[18:19] <bod_> ejer, ok,.,. didnt no if i had to reboot,.
[18:19] <bod_> ty
[18:19] <jetscreamer> /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:19] <lrkr> chris710: no problem, hope that works
[18:19] <jetscreamer> sudo
[18:20] <ThipThip> jimat:  mplayer, windows media, realplayer, quicktime, divx, totem, VLC, GCJ, and Flash
[18:20] <ejer> slade991_: link was right below it... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/20/installing-usb-knoppix-51-using-linux/
[18:20] <chris710> Irkr>and how can i change the window decorator?
[18:20] <idefix_> maybe I'm too dumb to use linux
[18:20] <tass1412> how to use a static source device in crypttab?
[18:20] <slade991_> ejer : how.... sorry XD
[18:20] <white_eagle> @lart me
[18:21] <white_eagle> :)
[18:21] <tass1412> or better: a source static (got some USB-hd's)
[18:21] <Wiredtape> ejer, nickrud, http not responding.. cannot pastebin...
[18:21] <ejer> there is your prob Wiredtape
[18:21] <lrkr> chris710: mmmmm, i'm not entirely sure (i compiz), but my guess is once you find the place where you have the set of options, try to find a way to choose emerald(?) sorry i can't help anymore.
[18:21] <Wiredtape> ejer, obviously.. what should I take a look at?
[18:21] <chris710> ok
[18:21] <ejer> onTop: read the pdf
[18:22] <pali> fgnhft
[18:22] <lrkr> chris710: to get more specific advice on this, you might want to check the ubuntu forums, there's a lot of information there about these kinds of issues, specifically with compiz/emerald/etc.
[18:22] <bod_> ejer,  im getting up to the loading bar screen, but when that finishes, i just get a black screen, same as before,. the disc isnt doing anything
[18:22] <ejer> Wiredtape: easy answer is try rebooting
[18:22] <ejer> bod_: you have some troubleshooting to do... no easy way to just make it work
[18:23] <kaje> when I do "which ls" at a command prompt, it gives me an illegal option error and shows me the usage info for "which"
[18:23] <ejer> bod_: you can't get to command line at all right
[18:23] <Wiredtape> ejer, that does make sense.. it was working before.. however, is this something that is "testable" while running..?
[18:23] <bod_> ejer, ok,.,. could you walk me through it please?
[18:23] <kaje> If I do /usr/bin/which ls, it works just fine... what's up with that?
[18:23] <bod_> ejer,  i can, i can load a command line from grub selection
[18:23] <ejer> bod try going back into single mode, type X at command line and see what error it gives
[18:23] <ejer> bod_: yes, recovery mode :)
[18:23] <NET||abuse> hi guys.. i'm trying to upload some podcasts off my machine to an ipod,, i connect the ipod, /var/log/messages comes up sayinhg a load of messages,, but nothing appears on the desktop
[18:23] <ejer> Wiredtape: don't understand Q
[18:24] <lrkr> chris710: sorry, i've got to get going, good luck with your problem!
[18:24] <Wiredtape> ejer, nm, will brb.. rebooting.
[18:24] <NET||abuse> it keeps saying "usb 5-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and addres"
[18:24] <bod_> x
[18:24] <bod_> sorry
[18:24] <DRebellion> NET||abuse: check if there are device nodes for it in /dev
[18:25] <ejer> NET||abuse: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[18:25] <edson> hi guys
[18:25] <kaje> bah, nevermind, I had an alias setup for which that I didn't know about...
[18:25] <lol> hi
[18:25] <dowgaia> When locking the screen, ubuntu instead performs a full fledged log out, killing the session entirely. How can I change this behaviour? Obviously when locking the screen, I should expect that when unlocked, the session is still fully functional. This isn't putting the computer to sleep or logging out the user, this is just locking the screen.
[18:25] <popey> NET||abuse: you can try removing the usb2 module "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd"
[18:25] <ejer> NET||abuse: better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[18:25] <bod_> ejer,  bash: x: command not found
[18:25] <ejer> grr
[18:25] <ejer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[18:25] <ejer> bod_: capital X
[18:25] <lukasz> !transgaming
[18:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transgaming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:25] <edson> Someone knows where increases the letter of the field login and password?
[18:25] <popey> !cedega
[18:25] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[18:25] <bod_> ah,. sorry
[18:26] <lol> i want to check if opengl is enabled in my system and if not which command should i use?
[18:26] <popey> lol: glxinfo
[18:26] <onTop> ejer: I've done it. It didn't help me much. I thought .so-file was all around and very normal in ubuntu. I can read the pdf once again, but I don't think I will find any useful information tho..
[18:26] <bod_> ejer, that seems to have tried to start X,. which has rendered my laptop unusable
[18:26] <bod_> need a reboot
[18:27] <chris710> Irkr>thanks very much for your help,it works but i only have windows decorations for my theme...
[18:27] <ejer> onTop: it is not normal at all, and they explain exactly how to install it in pdf
[18:27] <Wiredtape> ejer, have rebooted.. same deal, http does't work.
[18:27] <ejer> bod_: ctrl-alt-backspace
[18:27] <bod_> nope
[18:28] <ejer> Wiredtape: can be your network, many dif problems
[18:28] <lol> popey:thnx but i think it's not enabled,so which command should i use?
[18:28] <popey> lol: what video card do you have?
[18:28] <lol> ati x700
[18:28] <MasterShrek> eww
[18:28] <popey> !ati | lol
[18:28] <ubotu> lol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:28] <bod_> ejer, cant seem to find a way of getting the prompt back,.,. can only cold reboot
[18:28] <ejer> Wiredtape: maybe this would help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[18:28] <bullgard4> "smbclient -L MD97600" functions. "smbclient -L Amilo7600" does not function: "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" although smbtree shows it. How to get rid of this error message?
[18:29] <berto-> anyone know where to get linux kernel support ?
[18:29] <Kles> ahhhh
[18:29] <Wiredtape> ejer, how is it that I can access irc and not http? I am obviously connected to the network, i'm guessing certain protocols are having a problem.. make sense?
[18:29] <Kles> I installed the latest nVidia drivers
[18:29] <ejer> bod_: your video driver is not loading right, not much we can do really, unless someone else has an idea
[18:29] <Kles> and now it's giving me some low graphics mode crap
[18:29] <Kles> what's going on :|
[18:29] <bod_> ejer, i had to install windows to format the hard drive before i installed ubuntu,.,. video board is fine
[18:29] <MasterShrek> Kles, how did you install the nvidia driver? through apt?
[18:29] <tyronep> hi i am trying to dual boot vista and ubuntu I found this guide on the internet http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first but something is worng with my last step can someone help me please??
[18:30] <DRebellion> !dualboot | tyronep
[18:30] <ubotu> tyronep: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:30] <Kles> MasterShrek: I downloaded it manually
[18:30] <mnemonica> Hello folks. I recently installed a Graphire4 pen tablet in Ubuntu 7.10. The pen tablet is working perfectly, but now my vertical scroll on my touchpad doesn't work! Can someone help me get it working again?
[18:30] <Kles> and installed at as root
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Wiredtape: If you put in an ip address instead of an http address do you get html page?
[18:30] <MasterShrek> tyronep, whats the problem? cant boot either, cant boot vista, cant boot linux?
[18:30] <bullgard4> berto-: Almost nowhere. Try ##kernelnewbies.
[18:30] <ejer> tyronep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:30] <Wiredtape> Jack_Sparrow, one sec...
[18:30] <popey> Kles: what video card?
[18:30] <NET||abuse> DRebellion, ejer: this is what comes up when i try to plugin the ipod, http://www.pastebin.org/17633
[18:30] <DRebellion> tyronep: bad idea to use random guides off the internet
[18:30] <Kles> GeForce 6600
[18:30] <shade052> how do you make windows as the default boot option in grub?
[18:30] <popey> Kles: why not use the packaged driver?
[18:30] <MasterShrek> Kles, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver it is using, most likely vesa, nv or nvidia
[18:30] <Kles> I found it kind of slow
[18:30] <DRebellion> shade052: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:30] <ejer> NET||abuse: try pluggingh it into port on back of system
[18:30] <MrObvious> Here's a random question. Why does the wiki use HTTPS (SSL)? I don't see a need for it for just viewing it.
[18:31] <popey> Kles: the nvidia driver or nv?
[18:31] <exneo> hello
[18:31] <Kles> okay one sec
[18:31] <popey> Kles: nv is slow yes, but nvidia driver will be very quick
[18:31] <NET||abuse> ejer, it's a laptop, there are only 2 ports
[18:31] <ejer> MrObvious: privacy
[18:31] <pewpewpew> DRebellion: Pretty much the same as taking random advices from this channel
[18:31] <berto-> bullgard4: thanks!
[18:31] <MasterShrek> MrObvious, never any reason not to beef up security
[18:31] <thebest> buona sera a tutti
[18:31] <pewpewpew> you have to trust someone to get it done :]
[18:31] <decipher7> sweet so far so good... im flying with the amd64 version of gutsy
[18:31] <shade052> DRebellion: exactly what line to edit?
[18:31] <MasterShrek> 64-bit ftw!
[18:31] <MrObvious> ejer: I know what SSL is, but there isn't really a need to offer security as far as I can tell because no sensitive data is on the wiki.
[18:31] <edson> hi guys
[18:31] <edson> Someone knows where increases the letter of the field login and password?
[18:32] <MrObvious> MasterShrek: True, I guess. If you can do it why not? lol
[18:32] <exneo> I put ubuntu on my hp pavilio a819n it recognizes my realtek alc880 but sound doesnt work plz help
[18:32] <bod_> guys,. i have an IBM thinkpad T22,. ive installed ubuntu using the alternate text installer because the normal one wouldnt work,. now its installed, the loading bar screen comes up, finishes, then displays a black screen, and stops responding,.,. any thoughts?
[18:32] <ejer> MrObvious: privacy is different than security sometimes
[18:32] <Wiredtape> Jack_sparrow, localhost ip works, others don't...
[18:32] <MrObvious> ejer: Yeah I know that too. What is there for a need to keep private? I just think it's overkill lol.
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:32] <mnemonica> Repeat: Hello folks. I recently installed a Graphire4 pen tablet in Ubuntu 7.10. The pen tablet is working perfectly, but now my vertical scroll on my touchpad doesn't work! Can someone help me get it working again?
[18:32] <MasterShrek> bod_, what kind of gfx card does it have? have you tried booting to the recovery mode?
[18:32] <benny91> anybody here who knows how to use texlive ?
[18:32] <benny91> and how to install new packages?
[18:32] <exneo> is their an alsa channel here
[18:33] <exneo> I have sound problem
[18:33] <bod_> MasterShrek, its a savage something,.,. and yes i have
[18:33] <ejer> MrObvious: well, it doesn't hurt you, so no biggie i guess
[18:33] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, done it,.,. no joy
[18:33] <MrObvious> ejer: lol
[18:33] <ejer> some people may appreciate it
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Wiredtape: It was just a thought.. I was thinking dhcp problem
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: what are you setting it to?
[18:33] <shade052> DRebellion: can you specify the changes to be made?
[18:33] <ejer> MrObvious: sit and watch network traffic as a net admin sometime, you may change your mind
[18:33] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, wel i dont remember every setting i chose,. but generally low settings
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Select vesa mode, 1024 max res to get basic desktop gui then work on the driver and res
[18:34] <Factory|TyraeL^> tidus is gay !
[18:34] <Wiredtape> Jack_Sparrow, nah, I really don't get how I can be connected to the internet and still have blocks for certain protocols... weird..
[18:34] <bod_> jack-desktop, yer,. 1024 is what i chose
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: other than vesa and max res, use default for everything else
[18:34] <MasterShrek> !ot | Factory|TyraeL^
[18:34] <ubotu> Factory|TyraeL^: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:34] <MrObvious> ejer: I guess there must be something on that site. :\ IDK
[18:34] <sascha_> hello. whats the best filesystem for a usb-stick? i want to use this 8GB corsair survivor as backup conatiner for my important files. which (linux-only) fs is the most reliable for this puropose? thx.
[18:34] <MrObvious> Pici: Showoff. :p
[18:34] <ajricoveri> can i remotely monitor network traffic with wireshark ???
[18:34] <nickrud> Wiredtape: sorry, was away. You ok now?
[18:34] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  what is this vesa thingy,.,. and it didnt ask me about res i dont think
[18:34] <DRebellion> sascha_: ext3 ???
[18:35] <ejer> ajricoveri: yes, you need promiscuous mode in net driver or need to be bridged gateway
[18:35] <MasterShrek> sascha_, id use fat32 (vfat) just in case you ever had to plug it into a windows machine
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: vesa is generic video driver, works for virtually any card
[18:35] <thebest> ciao
[18:35] <shade052> Wiredtape: you can check you firewall settings.. some firewalls allow specific protocols to be blocked
 Kles, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver it is using, most likely vesa, nv or nvidia
[18:35] <Wiredtape> nickrud, unfortunately no, :) -> we have found out though that http doen't work, I am definitely connected to net..
[18:35] <DRebellion> ajricoveri: you can monitor all traffic through your computer
[18:35] <Kles> Section "Device"
[18:35] <Kles>     Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
[18:35] <Kles>     Driver         "nvidia"
[18:35] <Kles> EndSection
[18:35] <FloodBot2> Kles: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i have it in single mode atm,.,. and i can dmesg,. but it scrolls too fast,.,. how can i dmesg with only 1 page at a time?
[18:35] <NET||abuse> is there a basic package i need for ipod connections?
[18:35] <Wiredtape> shade052, I am using same network on another computer without any problem...
[18:35] <mnemonica> Repeat: Hello folks. I recently installed a Graphire4 pen tablet in Ubuntu 7.10. The pen tablet is working perfectly, but now my vertical scroll on my touchpad doesn't work! Can someone help me get it working again?
[18:35] <ejer> Wiredtape: what about https ?
[18:35] <Kles> Is that what I'm looking for?
[18:35] <MasterShrek> Kles, u coulda just told me it was nvidia, you are getting a gui though right? just low settings?
[18:35] <MasterShrek> yes
[18:35] <Wiredtape> ejer, do you have an address?
[18:36] <Kles> MasterShrek: Yes, low settings
[18:36] <neverblue> command to convert dec. to hex. ?
[18:36] <ejer> Wiredtape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[18:36] <DRebellion> shade052: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[18:36] <Kles> although if I go in to the control panel
[18:36] <Kles> it says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."
[18:36] <MasterShrek> the nvidia control panel right?
[18:36] <shade052> Wiredtape: well diff comps have diff firewall setting?
[18:36] <MasterShrek> hmm
[18:36] <Kles> yeah
[18:36] <sascha_> DRebellion, why ext3 and not ext2? is journaling of any use on a usb-stick?
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I dont do much cli... but my suggestion should get you to gui
[18:36] <henroc> I have a question.. I"m trying to create a deb package which lists libpam-krb5 as a dependency, but for some reason aptitude is installing libpam-ldap
[18:36] <neverblue> !enter | Kles
[18:36] <ubotu> Kles: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:36] <MasterShrek> Kles, is there another entry in xorg.conf that refers to vesa or nv?
[18:36] <oem__> network manager isnt properly managing my ehternet adapter. it says it is disconnected when it is connected and i have to manually tell it to get an address from DHCP
[18:36] <Wiredtape> ejer, https works .. now this is really weird..
[18:36] <henroc> Is it possible to prevent this?
[18:36] <shade052> DRebellion: thanks
[18:36] <ejer> Wiredtape: firewall seems most likely
[18:36] <Kles> MasterShrek: Nope
[18:37] <Wiredtape> shade052, oh, i thought you meant router firewall.. let me check..
[18:37] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,il try the xorg again
[18:37] <Wiredtape> ejer, is this in system->administration->network?
[18:37] <MasterShrek> Kles, you said you tried using the nvidia driver from apt right? have you completely removed it?
[18:37] <ejer> Wiredtape: it is something you would have set up
[18:37] <nickrud> Wiredtape: sudo iptables -F  will clear any firewall rules that might be affecting you
[18:38] <Kles> completely removed it? nope
[18:38] <Wiredtape> ejer, this is a clean install...
[18:38] <ejer> well, something is blocking traffic
[18:38] <MasterShrek> Kles, i would completely get rid of the apt version if you plan on using the one from their site
[18:38] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, thinkin i found the prob,.,. xorg has NO screen res's to use,.,. mybe the thing
[18:38] <ejer> Wiredtape: if you have a router, try to go to its config screen
[18:38] <Wiredtape> nickrud, after clearing firewall.. http still not working...
[18:38] <Kles> :|
[18:38] <Wiredtape> ejer, router config screen works...
[18:38] <MasterShrek> Kles, also keep in mind that any time your kernel gets upgraded, youll have to reinstall that driver (just so you know)
[18:38] <ejer> Wiredtape: ex http://192.168.1.1
[18:39] <Kles> >_<
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: good place to start
[18:39] <bod_> lol
[18:39] <ejer> Wiredtape: ok, then http is being blocked in router or afterwards
[18:39] <Kles> well, be right back then
[18:39] <nickrud> Wiredtape: try ejer 's thing, and the only thing I can think of otherwise is   env | grep -i http , possibly it's a bad proxy
[18:39] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  ok ,. i selected 1024/800 & 640     shouldnt have an excuse not to work now
[18:39] <ejer> Wiredtape: look at access settings in router
[18:40] <julia_> miu
[18:40] <MasterShrek> Wiredtape, you are trying to set up an http server that can be accessed from outside your router (sorry wasnt paying attention b4)
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Which video card driver
[18:41] <ejer> MasterShrek: http egress is not working for him
[18:41] <Wiredtape> MasterShrek, not atm, I will after i get http working..
[18:41] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i chose vesa like you said,.,. but this time i got some weird lines and a mouse pointer for a second then the screen went black again
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: you are running 6600 right?
[18:42] <julia_> ketä te ootte
[18:42] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, 6600 what? ,.,. whats that?
[18:42] <MasterShrek> Wiredtape, so you cant browse to any http sites is what you are saying?
[18:42] <julia_> ho are you
[18:42] <Wiredtape> ejer, nickrud, MasterShrek-> firewall is not the issue.. have disabled it, still no go
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Your video card.. I thought you posted that earlier, but may have been someone else
[18:42] <ejer> Wiredtape: it is in router or after
[18:42] <MasterShrek> Wiredtape, your isp could be blocking ports, mine does
[18:43] <Wiredtape> MasterShrek, some protocols work, some don't... https, irc work.. I think http, ftp don't...
[18:43] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i dont know what it is,. i think its a savage something
[18:43] <ejer> MasterShrek: it is outbound http - i doubt that is blocked
[18:43] <Wiredtape> MasterShrek, port 80? and I have another computer on same network, that can access np...
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: S3   sound familiar
[18:43] <MasterShrek> ejer, i could almost bet it does
[18:43] <Wiredtape> ejer, in router.. and also followed nickrud's instructions and cleared internal firewall
[18:43] <ejer> MasterShrek: then you can't see any webpages, seems a little silly?
[18:44] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  yer ,. but only because i read it online,.,. in single mode,. could i lspci to find out?
[18:44] <NET||abuse> popey, your suggestion of "rmmod ehci_hcd" worked,, why is that?
[18:44] <BlackRece> !paste
[18:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:44] <surak> Does anyone has any idea on the message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-lookup.c: 475: _dl_setup_hash: Assertion `(bitmask_nwords & (bitmask_nwords - 1)) == 0' failed
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Yes
[18:44] <RichEd> hi guys ... can anyone tell me how to reset "the video mode/driver" for my notebook without a reboot (i.e. command line reset)
[18:44] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, kk 1 sec
[18:44] <NET||abuse> popey, is there something wrong with my usb ports,, i do get alot of issues with them.
[18:44] <darkham> can you read me?
[18:44] <MasterShrek> the isp is blocking outgoing traffic on port 80, i could almost guarentee it, (assuming im understanding the problem correctly) my isp blocks outboud traffic on port 80, so my webserver is forwarded to a different port
[18:44] <ejer> hehe
[18:45] <julia_> what is happening
[18:45] <oddie> RichEd: ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[18:45] <ejer> we are talking about otehr way around MasterShrek he can't get to http webpages from inside the network
[18:45] <MasterShrek> i can access my webserver on port 80 inside my network, but it needs to be forwarded to a different port from the outside
[18:45] <Wiredtape> MasterShrek, that's a problem I'll handle later, atm, I can't GET http
[18:45] <RichEd> oddie ... what does that do ?
[18:45] <MasterShrek> oh, i thought he said it did work inside the network
[18:45] <oddie> RichEd: don't know if that's what you are looking for
[18:45] <ejer> it does
[18:45] <ejer> his router is stopping it somehow
[18:45] <bjames> hi all, how do I do the inverse of this: if [ -n "$1"]
[18:45] <oddie> RichEd: restarts your x server without rebooting
[18:46] <MasterShrek> is the router forwarding port 80 to that ip address?
[18:46] <MasterShrek> if so then the isp is blocking 80 like i said
[18:46] <skoruppa> hi, i created my own livecd of ubuntu. I cahnged sources.list but on installation, installer rewrite sources.list to default.... someone know how to disable this?
[18:46] <ejer> nothing to do with forwarding
[18:46] <Gigamo> I'm in need of a little help here. I installed the nvidia-glx-new package for my video card, but I can't start x using the "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf; only "nv" will work. What should I do? Run the manual nvidia installer from their site?
[18:46] <NET||abuse> popey, welll, whatever the reason,, thank you very much for the pointer,,, i'll have to figure out what's up with my usb stack.... the thing does hang often, killing my usb mouse, and just becoming unresponsive to new usb connections..
[18:46] <bjames> i.e. if not [ -n "$0"]
[18:46] <bjames> ??
[18:46] <MasterShrek> ejer, do you know how a router works? its not going to work from the outside if the router doesnt forward the port correctly
[18:46] <ejer> bjames: if [ ! -n $0 ]
[18:46] <ejer> MasterShrek: you are just confusing issue, go read back
[18:46] <surak> skoruppa: you must change it inside the package
[18:46] <bjames> ejer: tried that and it didn't work, although I think I see the problem now
[18:47] <bjames> cheers
[18:47] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
[18:47] <surak> becase it gets replaced from it
[18:47] <skoruppa> surek: in what package?
[18:47] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, that took ages to type,.,.lol
[18:47] <Wiredtape> ejer, if my router is to blame... why port 80? and why can I work on port 80 on another computer.. maybe, maybe it's because of a specific dhcp lease? i dont think it is.. but even if, i have disabled firewall.. so what could be blocking?
[18:47] <surak> the one who contains this file ;-)
[18:47] <oddie> RichEd: not sure that's what you're asking, but if you change your video driver you would need to restart the xserver
[18:47] <shade052> WasterShrek: but he says that the other comp connecting to the same router is able to forward? so its not isp fault?
[18:47] <ejer> Wiredtape: if you can get to http on router, it is not your ubuntu system
[18:47] <RichEd> oddie: what happens to my open applications when i do that x server reset ?
[18:47] <skoruppa> /etc/apt/sources.listt are in package?
[18:47] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get Zeroconf to broadcast my installed printers like it used to, is there some option which controls which services Zeroconf broadcasts?
[18:47] <skoruppa> wow
[18:47] <skoruppa> :P
[18:48] <Eric> hello, i'm on a ubuntu live cd right now and I'm trying to rescue some files and copy them to my external hard drive but is says I don't have permission any ideas?
[18:48] <hunter_> guys is there any way to get around using windows media plugins on ubuntu, pls
[18:48] <Eric> please...I really need the files
[18:48] <hunter_> thanks in advance
[18:48] <oddie> RichEd: they get closed. (without confirmation I think)
[18:48] <Nihilist_Nerd> Sorry if this is offtopic, but how may I find my friend's ISP's IP Address? I want to configure PPP in Linux.
[18:48] <surak> yes, man dpkg and you will know how to find a owner of a package
[18:48] <MasterShrek> !sudo | Eric
[18:48] <ubotu> Eric: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[18:48] <Eric> ok
[18:48] <Wiredtape> ejer, so weird... i'm really lost.. :-
[18:48] <Eric> thnx
[18:48] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, so should i try with the savage driver, not the vesa?
[18:48] <ejer> Wiredtape: can you see http://64.233.187.99
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I see those eery so often, dont know much about them.  vesa should work..  Is it possible to post your xorg.conf to the pastebin?
[18:48] <Wiredtape> *:-\
[18:48] <RichEd> oddie ... ah .. exactly what i am trying to avoid :)
[18:48] <oddie> RichEd: the restart goes pretty fast though.  since you are not rebooting
[18:48] <Wiredtape> ejer, you want me to ping that, or to go there?
[18:49] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a Dell 6400 notebook and an aditional LG CRT display. I`m tring to set up a dual-display configuration (not cloning) using my crt connected to the VGA port of the notebook. i`ve configured my xserver to enable both displays. But for some reason, after reboot, the X server starts in safe mode. Here is my xserver file: # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[18:49] <itch_> #
[18:49] <itch_> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[18:49] <itch_> # values from the debconf database.
[18:49] <shade052> MasterShrek: but he says that the other comp connecting to the same router is able to forward? so its not isp fault?
[18:49] <ejer> click it Wiredtape
[18:49] <ejer> see if it is dns not working
[18:49] <Wiredtape> ejer, I have..
[18:49] <ejer> and...
[18:49] <Eric> what's the password?
[18:49] <Wiredtape> can't see
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Not sure what else you have tried so far, it seems we spend more time undoing things people have tried than fixing the original problem.
[18:49] <RichEd> oddie: here's the problem ... totem usually works fine ... but after some major browsing hitting pages with embedded videos ... totem then plays with a blank screen
[18:49] <chri4> Wiredtape: if only http doesnt work, have you checked your proxy settings then?
[18:49] <iKap> am i suppose to create a separate partition for my files and the os? so when i restore.. all the files and programs are still there? didnt quite understand that concept... ?
[18:49] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, is there a way (from single mode) to copy xorg.conf to a usb stick?
[18:49] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i havent tried anything
[18:49] <Wiredtape> ejer, can't access
[18:50] <ejer> Wiredtape: for fun i would reboot router
[18:50] <MasterShrek> shade052, the other pc, running an http server can forward on port 80 to the outside?
[18:50]  * MasterShrek is confused
[18:50] <MasterShrek> lol
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: good...  first, look at your xorg and see what it currently shows for the video driver
[18:50] <skoruppa> surak: sorry but i cant find... there are many packages with sources.list but no any with etc/apt/souces.list
[18:50] <ejer> nothing to do with http servers MasterShrek
[18:50] <MasterShrek> then ignore everything i have said lol
[18:50] <ejer> he can't get to google for instance, or any other http
[18:51] <Wiredtape> ejer, will brb, rebooting.. chri4 -> will check after reboot
[18:51] <MasterShrek> i get you now
[18:51] <iKap> ejer, is it too late for me to create a separate partition of the files and programs?
[18:51] <oddie> RichEd: do you have the right driver for your video card?
[18:51] <ejer> iKap: yes, you don't need to really, the default is recommended for new users
[18:51] <shade052> MasterShrek: i am getting dizzy....
[18:51] <Gigamo> Anyone expert in nvidia drivers? :P
[18:51] <xfroggy> what's the difference between 7.10 & 6.06 LTS? Or where I can find some info about this topic?
[18:51] <ejer> iKap: make backups like normal you will be fine
[18:51] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, no,. you misread my question,,.,. can i/how do i    copy xorg.conf to a usb stick,.
[18:51] <ejer> !releases | xfroggy
[18:51] <ubotu> xfroggy: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[18:51] <RichEd> oddie: yep ... everything usually works fine ... i think some web page plugin hangs the video port
[18:51] <surak> so take a look at the own apt package, and the ubuntu installer
[18:52] <surak> skoruppa
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: if it is mounted you should just be able to cp to it.
[18:52] <iKap> ejer, oh okay, well what do you mean by backups? if you dont mind.. i mean i dont wanna loose my files/programs
[18:52] <xfroggy> ubotu, ty :D
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ty :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:52] <MasterShrek> xfroggy, ubotu is a bot, no need to thank him :)
[18:52] <ejer> iKap: all computer users should have regular backups
[18:52] <xfroggy> ah :D
[18:52] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, i dont know if its mounted,.,. hang on let me go grab the usb stick
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Sorry if I am distracted, but kinda involved in another project atm
[18:52] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, dw,.,. i just appreciate the help
[18:53] <Eric> how do I use the command line to move a file if there's spaces in it?
[18:53] <iKap> ejer, well even if i backup my files, when i restore how do i access the backup'ed version?
[18:53] <MasterShrek> !tab | Eric
[18:53] <ubotu> Eric: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[18:53] <tokok> ubotu: how do you do?
[18:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how do you do? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:53] <Eric> the folder I'm rtying to move is /media/Macintosh HD/Applications
[18:53] <lod__air> what's the syntax for stoping avahi-daemon from boot?? update-rc.d avahi_daemon ???
[18:53] <Eric> theres a space in Macintosh HD
[18:53] <oddie> RichEd: sorry no idea how to help you.
[18:53] <ejer> iKap: part of backing up is knowing how to restore - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup
[18:53] <RichEd> thanks for trying :)
[18:53] <oddie> RichEd: try googling
[18:53] <Pici> Eric: mv /media/Macintosh\ HD/Applications
[18:53] <MasterShrek> RichEd, whats your problem?
[18:54] <iKap> ejer, one more thing.. when new versions of ubuntu come out, you can just upgrade right and keeping your files?
[18:54] <RichEd> oddie: i always do that before i join the fray in here
[18:54] <Arelis> Hi all. I switched to Dapper Drape 6.04 LTS, and like it. But the resolution is all screwed up. How can i force it to 1440x900? The GNOME utility won't let me select 1440x900
[18:54] <ejer> iKap: yup
[18:54] <RichEd> MasterShrek: here's the problem ... totem usually works fine ... but after some major browsing hitting pages with embedded videos ... totem then plays with a blank screen
[18:54] <MasterShrek> Eric, yes also as Pici said, use a backslash \ before the space, but you can use tab completion, just type the first couple letters and hit tab
[18:54] <MasterShrek> RichEd, ive never had good luck with totem, i think vlc has a firefox plugin, tried using that?
[18:55] <iKap> ejer, then why do people regularly restore ubuntu?
[18:55] <viki> hi
[18:55] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow,  im back,.,. right im gonna see if the ubuntu single mode recognizes it
[18:55] <RichEd> MasterShrek: i'll msg you some more detail ...
[18:55] <MasterShrek> iKap, its always better to do a clean install than to upgrade, although upgrades have gotten much smoother with each release, its always nicer to have a fresh install imho
[18:55] <Arelis> Hi all. I switched to Dapper Drape 6.04 LTS, and like it. But the resolution is all screwed up. How can i force it to 1440x900? The GNOME utility won't let me select 1440x900
[18:55] <Wiredtape> ejer, nickrud, chri4, MasterShrek thanks all for your help.. it works now..
[18:56] <viki> hi
[18:56] <iKap> MasterShrek, but i dont wanna loose my files/programs/settings lol... or well files/programs atleast.
[18:56] <hunter_> hi viki how can i help u
[18:56] <ejer> Wiredtape: good stuff, rebooting routers is a magic fix :)
[18:56] <chri4> Wiredtape: found the cause?
[18:56] <pepperjack> !fixres | Arelis might help
[18:56] <ubotu> Arelis might help: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:56] <Wiredtape> ejer, yeah, somehow it always works :)
[18:56] <ejer> heh
[18:56] <Wiredtape> chri4, I have no idea what the problem was.. but it works now.. :)
[18:57] <pepperjack> Arelis: bear in mind that the nex release is an lts as well and will have probably alot more polish compared to 7.04
[18:57] <MasterShrek> iKap, i understand that, im not sure if you can install ubuntu without formatting, but how i do it (in slackware) is just remove everything from the partition except the files that i want to save, then install without reformatting...dunno if its possible in ubuntu, but they should make that option available if it isnt
[18:57] <phaedral> usb plug and play works only intermittently; not sure what to do?
[18:57] <ejer> like the IT crowd says 'have you tried unplugging and replugging it?'
[18:57] <chri4> Wiredtape: in german we say "reboot tut gut", that's a rhyme, saying reboot help ;-)
[18:57] <Gigamo> Im in need of an NVIDIA expert here;.. :D
[18:57] <phaedral> last time I asked was pointed to look at hal, but don't understand what I'm looking at
[18:57] <ejer> iKap: the upgrade process does everything for you
[18:57] <Arelis> pepperjack: thanks.
[18:57] <pewpewpew> Gigamo: Just ask. The experts will pop up afterwards.
[18:58] <MasterShrek> iKap, otherwise as suggested use a seperate partition, which i doubt you can do if its currently install, in which case i would back up all the files you want to save to an external hdd or something, then repartition and reformat with a seperate /home partition
[18:58] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, what is the default dir of a usb stick?
[18:58] <iKap> ejer, but if u do a restore even if you save your files seperate.. you still loose your settings.. right?
[18:58] <Gigamo> I cannot start X using the "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf. It will error out saying it can't find nvidia.ko or something like that. However it works fine when I put "nv" as the driver. I have installed the nvidia-glx-new package.
[18:58] <ejer> iKap: what restore?
[18:58] <ejer> Gigamo: use the restricted-driver manager
[18:58] <phaedral> bod_: I think it's /media/[volume label]
[18:58] <Wiredtape> chri4, hehe.. I've been hearing a lot of rhyme in german lately specifcally about techie stuff.. I am starting to wonder how many techies you have over there :-)
[18:58] <iKap> ejer, when i do a clean restore, like everyone does..
[18:59] <phaedral> so for mine, when it works, it's /media/BAMF
[18:59] <shade052> ejer, Wiredtape, chri4: anticipating something interresting would come out of this!! and in the end a reeboot fixes the prob.... argh !!! brilliant!!
[18:59] <pewpewpew> Gigamo: Are you using Gutsy? I recommend the restricted-driver manager then
[18:59] <bod_> phaedral, ty :~)
[18:59] <Gigamo> how do i launch restricte dmanager from command again?
[18:59] <MasterShrek> iKap, some settings youll lose, if you save your /home/<user> folder all your user settings will remain, but system settings will go away i think
[18:59] <ejer> iKap: reinstall? this is not a restore
[18:59] <Foon> @find lobo
[18:59] <Arelis> pepperjack: Hm. It's not exactly the resolution i had in gutsy. It's off-screen, weird, blurry...
[18:59] <lukasz> WineCVS.sh: 48:  I get that error
[18:59] <phaedral> but desktop only see the damned thing about 1 time in 4
[18:59] <MasterShrek> Foon, use !find
[18:59] <Arelis> !resolution
[18:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:59] <iKap> ill brb sorry guys ill get back to you ejer  i got a phone call brb
[18:59] <Wiredtape> shade052, I was thinking along those lines as well..
[18:59] <lukasz> help pls
[18:59] <MasterShrek> lukasz, wineCVS is not supported here, try #winehq
[19:00] <pewpewpew> Gigamo: "restricted-manager"
[19:00] <fhd> join #ubuntu-sa/
[19:00] <MasterShrek> lukasz, also, have you tried: sudo apt-get install build-essential   ?
[19:00] <lukasz> what is the server MasterShrek ?
[19:00] <lukasz> I did that master shrek
[19:00] <MasterShrek> lukasz, just type: /join #winehq
[19:00] <lukasz> ok thnx
[19:00] <MasterShrek> ok, check with them then lukasz
[19:00] <Wiredtape> Wiredtape is wondering if app add/remove has server stuf.. svn, AMP?
[19:00] <viki> viki
[19:01] <bjames> how do I output to stderr?
[19:01] <bjames> echo "error" > &2
[19:01] <bjames> ???
[19:01] <bod_> guys,. does single mode recognize usb devices?
[19:01] <MasterShrek> bod_, maybe, lsusb show anything?
[19:01] <Arelis> Hi all. I'm trying to set my resolution to 1440x900. I tried to force the resolution to 1440x900, but instead i get a really weird, stretched out, blurry screen.,
[19:01] <Arelis> Can anyone help me?
[19:01] <MasterShrek> Arelis, what kind of video card?
[19:02] <A[D]minS> how i can add compiz to auto startup ?
[19:02] <Arelis> MasterShrek: ATI Radeon 9600. I'm on Dapper Drake
[19:02] <MasterShrek> Arelis, have you installed ati drivers?
[19:02] <MasterShrek> !ati | Arelis
[19:02] <ubotu> Arelis: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:02] <Arelis> MasterShrek: no
[19:02] <Wiredtape> Arelis,  1) can your gfxcard handle that..? 2) do you have a 16:9 monitor?
[19:02] <Nihilist_Nerd> I'm trying to configure a /etc/resolv.conf for PPP, but I don't know my friend's IP address. He's on tiscali - how can I find it?
[19:02] <MasterShrek> Arelis, i would do that first
[19:02] <A[D]minS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54242/ is That fine?
[19:02] <tokok> Wiredtape: 16:10
[19:02] <bod_> MasterShrek, Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13fe:1a20 & Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000         is that a yes? or a no?
[19:03] <Wiredtape> tokok. my bad, i was guesstimating.. :)
[19:03] <hunter_> hi viki
[19:03] <frojnd1> The KDE bindings for Python are required to run Amalyp. What package do I need than ?
[19:03] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, have him to to www.whatismyip.com    i think should tell you
[19:03] <hansderelict> hey, i was hoping someone could help me with a technical problem i'm having - ubuntu is randomly restarting. i have a gateway laptop, and i've already thoroughly cleaned the fans in case of overheating issues. does anyone have the time to help me with this right now?
[19:03] <viki> hi hunter
[19:03] <MasterShrek> bod_, seems like it sees the usb bus, its possible, does anthing else show up with lsusb when u plug something in?
[19:03] <Arelis> MasterShrek: is Feisty better to use?
[19:03] <Gigamo> thanks guys, restricted manager worked.
[19:04] <Gigamo> shouldve thought of it myself :)
[19:04] <frojnd1> anyone?
[19:04] <At0x0> Is there a quick way to reset my desktop (GNOME) layout to the default? Ie, I've moved icons, menu bars, clock, etc around and I'd like to reset it to the default layout.
[19:04] <MasterShrek> !better | Arelis
[19:04] <ubotu> Arelis: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:04] <Nihilist_Nerd> MasterShrek: Sorry, I'm talking rubbish. I'm looking for his ISP's IP address.
[19:04] <bod_> MasterShrek, ok i just removed the device then lsusb'd and i only get 1 line, so it see's it,.,. could you please double check the dir for a usb stick?
[19:04] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, that should give it
[19:05] <Wiredtape> Nihilist_Nerd, whois, dns...
[19:05] <MasterShrek> bod_, i doubt in single mode it will auto-mount it though
[19:05] <Nihilist_Nerd> MasterShrek: Thanks very much.
[19:05] <MasterShrek> np Nihilist_Nerd
[19:05] <ejer> At0x0: it may remove other settings, but removing ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* will do it
[19:05] <bod_> MasterShrek, how would i go about mounting it?
[19:05] <Pici> !resetpanel | At0x0
[19:05] <ubotu> At0x0: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[19:05] <shade052> bod_: put in the flash drive and type "fdisk -l"
[19:06] <ejer> At0x0: that is better way Pici said
[19:06] <MasterShrek> bod_, first: sudo fdisk -l     and identify which device it is, then do: sudo mount /dev/xxxx /media
[19:06] <acee1234> im trying to full drive encrypt my 7.10 system any suggestions?
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Sorry, had to answer the door.  You still here?
[19:06] <mnemonica> REPEATING: Hello folks. I recently installed a Graphire4 pen tablet in Ubuntu 7.10. The pen tablet is working perfectly, but now my vertical scroll on my touchpad doesn't work! Can someone help me get it working again?
[19:06] <At0x0> !resetpanel
[19:06] <ubotu> To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[19:06] <ejer> !wacom
[19:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:06] <shade052> bod_: it will give you the flash drive path in /dev .. use it to mount the drive
[19:06] <LimCore> how can I play shout cast stream - http://134.130.50.148:8000/ ?
[19:07] <MasterShrek> !info streamtuner
[19:07] <ejer> mnemonica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[19:07] <Wiredtape> should I go XAMPP?
[19:07] <ubotu> streamtuner (source: streamtuner): A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-9ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 616 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> shade052: Thanks for picking him up with that
[19:07] <MasterShrek> !info streamtuner | LimCore
[19:07] <bod_> shade052, Jack_Sparrow, MasterShrek, ok,. i cant read all of the output because it scrolls off the screen
[19:07] <ubotu> limcore: please see above
[19:07] <Pici> !lamp > Wiredtape (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:07] <At0x0> Thanks
[19:07] <mimat86> hi
[19:07] <MasterShrek> bod_, output of what?
[19:07] <MasterShrek> hello mimat86
[19:07] <ejer> LimCore: looks like stream is broken
[19:07] <bod_> MasterShrek, fdisk -l
[19:08] <mnemonica> ejer: thanks for the redirect
[19:08] <MasterShrek> bod_, that shouldnt give you THAT much output lol
[19:08] <MasterShrek> bod_, what filesystem is the usb device? fat32 im assuming
[19:08] <Wiredtape> Pici, k, thx
[19:08] <MasterShrek> bod_, do: sudo fdisk -l | grep fat
[19:08] <LimCore> oh it works
[19:08] <LimCore> lolz
[19:08] <LimCore> ha .tr language is funny
[19:08] <bod_> MasterShrek, no idea,.,. but it says i have 4 partitions?? and its giving three lines per partition
[19:09] <bod_> MasterShrek, grep fat ,. shows nothing
[19:09] <Talon> Easy question: When i plug in my USB Headset(Plantronics) and i change it to that device no sound comes out of it :/ only my laptop speakers...
[19:09] <Nihilist_Nerd> MasterShrek: Well that gave me my IP Address but not my friend's ISP.
[19:09]  * Nihilist_Nerd looks up those commands
[19:09] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, have him go to that site
[19:09] <ejer> Talon: system>pref>sound ?
[19:10] <Nihilist_Nerd> I can't, he doesn't have his Internet working.
[19:10] <Wiredtape> Pici, Erro: tasksel:aptitude failed (100) -> sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[19:10] <YixilTesiphon> hi, I'm a noob, and I'm trying to get ubuntu working on my lenovo t60p. I can't get it to recognize any internet connection - doesn't think I have a wireless card and when I plug in an ethernet cable the light comes on but ubuntu doesn't see it
[19:10] <Talon> Ejer: I tried and it didnt work, lemme try again
[19:10] <Nihilist_Nerd> And also, I'm not looking for his IP, but rather the IP of his ISP.
[19:10] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, im aware of that, but if his network isnt working, his isp's ip isnt going to do anything for you
[19:11] <bod_> MasterShrek, ok ive done fdisk -l | grep dev
[19:11] <Nihilist_Nerd> I don't even know his ISP's domain name.
[19:11] <bod_> got some things
[19:11] <ejer> and isp has many IPs
[19:11] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : did you configure the network connection?
[19:11] <Foon> anyone know if its possible to install xf86-video-intel 2.2 in gutsy?
[19:11] <bod_> MasterShrek, it recognizes a device thats fat16!
[19:11] <MasterShrek> bod what are they? dont flood though, put the /dev/xxxx  names on one line here
[19:11] <Nihilist_Nerd> MasterShrek: Isn't it? I'm looking to modify resolv.conf so I can set up his dial-up with PPP on Zenwalk.
[19:11] <Seveas> Foon, it's xorg-video-intel
[19:11] <MasterShrek> bod_, thats fine
[19:11] <YixilTesiphon> shade052: the "configure" button is greyed-over
[19:11] <Seveas> and you need hardy :)
[19:11] <MasterShrek> bod_, thats probably the one, what is the device name?
[19:12] <mohbana> is it possible to install the wireless network drivers whilst running of a live cd? i want to install ubuntu on my laptop but i want to confirm if the wireless works first
[19:12] <Foon> ah
[19:12] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : try the icon on the top left.
[19:12] <Talon> Seems to be working now, thanks Ejer i just had to reboot and it worked
[19:12] <MasterShrek> mohbana, depends on the wireless card
[19:12] <ejer> mohbana: it should just work when u boot up livecd
[19:12] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : click on it and select manual config
[19:12] <bod_> MasterShrek, /dev/sdb1          name = Disk           same as all the others
[19:12] <MasterShrek> bod_, try: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media
[19:12] <YixilTesiphon> shade052: what will I be able to do from there?
[19:12] <MasterShrek> bod_, then: cd /media
[19:12] <Talon> Ejer mabey you can help again, when im in firefox watching video and change my volume with the +/- buttons, i see the graphic pop up and move but the volume doesnt change untill i restart firefox, is that normal ?
[19:12] <Wiredtape> guys, i'm using u7 trying to use tasksel to install LAMP server, am getting "Error: tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[19:13] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : did you get the window of networking?
[19:13] <Nihilist_Nerd> MasterShrek: Isn't it? I'm looking to modify resolv.conf so I can set up his dial-up with PPP on Zenwalk.
[19:13] <Foon> can i install xorg-video-intel 2.2 from hardy on gutsy i'm waiting on a fix
[19:13] <YixilTesiphon> shade052: I believe I was in the network connections screen
[19:13] <ejer> Talon: you can try changing this in prefs>keyboard shortcuts, but may have to change what volume it controls
[19:13] <YixilTesiphon> only thing it was seeing was "local loopback"
[19:13] <YixilTesiphon> (I'm on xp right now)
[19:14] <gnuskool> hey i got a cable router, but wana have wireless for my laptop, what do i need, another wireless router?
[19:14] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : k
[19:14] <ejer> Wiredtape: you type sudo tasksel, tick off lamp server and say ok
[19:14] <mohbana> just need some more confirmation, is anyone runnung ubuntu on an acer ferrari 4005?
[19:14] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, i know nothing about ppp or zenwalk, i dont know how you would even begin to set that up, i coudl help you if you want the ip that his isp is leasing to him, but if his net isnt working, then i doubt its going to work
[19:14] <bod_> MasterShrek, in the media folder,. i see files on the device,.,.good good,,.,. now    where is xorg.conf located?
[19:14] <gnuskool> hey i got a cable router, but wana have wireless for my laptop, what do i need, another wireless router?
[19:14] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : well you need to obtain ip address automacilly like in windows
[19:14] <MasterShrek> bod_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:14] <ejer> gnuskool: wifi router and card for laptop if it does not have
[19:14] <Wiredtape> ejer, have done that twice now.. have also used command line to install.. am getting aptitude error (100)
[19:14] <YixilTesiphon> shade052: I'll boot into ubuntu and see if I can figure more out, thanks for your help
[19:15] <ejer> Wiredtape: same prob as be4 maybe?
[19:15] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : wait
[19:15] <Wiredtape> ejer, am using web atm..
[19:15] <bod_> MasterShrek, and what was the dir of my usb stick? sorry cant remember
[19:15] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : you listening?
[19:15] <ejer> Wiredtape: what is error
[19:15] <MasterShrek> bod_, /media
[19:15] <bod_> ok
[19:15] <Wiredtape> ejer, tasksel: Aptitude Failed (100)
[19:15] <hansderelict> repeating: hey, i was hoping someone could help me with a technical problem i'm having - ubuntu is randomly restarting. i have a gateway laptop, and i've already thoroughly cleaned the fans in case of overheating issues. is there anything else i can do?
[19:15] <MasterShrek> bod_, make sure you do: sudo umount /media   before you remove it
[19:15] <Wiredtape> ejer, am searching google about it.. nothing found yet...
[19:15] <Moduliz0r> is there anything I can use to control my fan speed?
[19:15] <gnuskool> ejer: do i need a wifi roter too cant i get something to add to the router i already have+
[19:16] <ejer> Wiredtape: try an aptitude update first maybe
[19:16] <ejer> gnuskool: doubt it
[19:16] <Slart> hansderelict: check your logs to see why it is restarting
[19:16] <_0x44_> I recently purchased an Inspiron 1420n, and last night I was experimenting with suspend. I closed the laptop, and it suspended as normal, but this morning when I went to use it, the battery was dead. Apparently the laptop woke up about fifty minutes after I put it away and then never went back to sleep. How do I prevent that in the future?
[19:16] <Wiredtape> ejer, how do I do that?
[19:16] <ejer> sudo aptitude update
[19:17] <ejer> _0x44_: there are many bugs with suspend still imo
[19:17] <Moduliz0r> How would I control my system fan speed?
[19:17] <Wiredtape> ejer, after update, same error as b4
[19:17] <MasterShrek> _0x44_, suspend/resume has never worked well in linux
[19:17] <mohbana> just need some more confirmation, is anyone runnung ubuntu on an acer ferrari 4005?
[19:17] <Talon> Am i stuck with the default Ubuntu themes or can i get more diverse ones
[19:17] <ejer> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop - maybe Wiredtape
[19:17] <MasterShrek> !theme | Talon
[19:17] <ubotu> Talon: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:18] <Talon> you win
[19:18] <Wiredtape> ejer, google find suggests: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:18] <bod_> MasterShrek, :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54243/
[19:18] <MasterShrek> !changethemes | Talon
[19:18] <ubotu> Talon: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[19:18] <Nihilist_Nerd> mastershrek: Okay, well thank you very much for trying.
[19:18] <MasterShrek> bod_, what am i looking for?
[19:18] <_0x44_> ejer, MasterShrek: What's strange is that's the only suspend issue I  have.
[19:18] <MasterShrek> Nihilist_Nerd, sorry i couldnt be of more help to you
[19:19] <kbrooks> i ... err, made a mistake related to time on ubuntu and want to return the time to normal. what can i do?
[19:19] <Wiredtape> ejer, *install ubuntu-desktop didn't help
[19:19] <ejer> _0x44_: suspend is not really meant for overnight anyways
[19:19] <bod_> MasterShrek, im not sure,.,. lol,.,. oopps,.,. it wasnt you who asked for that then?
[19:19] <usr13_> I've set up a desktop system for a friend in a nighboring town, and all is well accept for the java plugin for firefox seems to be wrong version and doesn't seem to work properly.  I seem to have somehow installed Java Plug-in 1.6.0_13-b05.  How can we change to version 1.5.0_13-b05 ?
[19:19] <Moduliz0r> how would I manually control my system fan speed?
[19:19] <MasterShrek> bod_, nope, i was just helping you with usb :)
[19:19] <kbrooks> i don't have sudfo access because of the time problem, and this is a server
[19:19] <_0x44_> ejer: Is it possible to suspend into hibernate?
[19:20] <bod_> MasterShrek, cheers,.,. il try and find,. whoever wanted this now,.,.lol,.,. thanks alot m8
[19:20] <ejer> _0x44_: look at power management settings in system
[19:20] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, are you still there m8?
[19:20] <Talon> Is it commonplace for your wireless card to just not be detected after a reboot ?
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: YEs and no..
[19:20] <MasterShrek> bod_, what was your problem? i maybe able to help you anyways
[19:21] <MasterShrek> Talon, was it working before a reboot?
[19:21] <enkidu_ak> Talon: Are you using the compat-wireless drivers?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Where are you at with that S3 Video driver
[19:21] <hansderelict> Slart: ok i see it - critical temp reached / critical trip point - but - my processor and fan is all cleaned out! i've never ran into this issue before, it's just in the past week or so.
[19:21] <_0x44_> ejer: That has two options, when laptop is closed do X, when power is critically low do Y.
[19:21] <L3ttuc3> is it possible to, say have two versions of opera running side by side, installed from .deb? like, i want the opera 9.25 package because it's stable fast and reliable, and 9.5 beta, because it actually has flash. yes, no?
[19:21] <enkidu_ak> Talon: You might need to call the loader, if you are.
[19:21] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, was it you who asked for my xorg.conf?      MasterShrek, my IBM Thinkpad T22,. crashes when it tries to load x
[19:21] <ejer> _0x44_: i know ;)
[19:21] <MasterShrek> L3ttuc3, i doubt it
[19:21] <penars> what's a good torrent client for linux?
[19:21] <Talon> Enkidu: i have no idea
[19:21] <_0x44_> I have X set to suspend, y set to hibernate, but it didn't hibernate when the battery dropped critically low.
[19:21] <mohbana> just need some more confirmation, is anyone runnung ubuntu on an acer ferrari 4005?
[19:21] <ejer> penars: i like azureus
[19:21] <bod_> penars, i use ,. deluge       sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent
[19:22] <tokok> penars: transmission, java NOT required
[19:22] <L3ttuc3> MasterShrek would it be possible, if i manually extracted the stuff, and stuck one in /home/user?
[19:22] <_0x44_> penars: I'm rather fond of BitTyrant.
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: YEs, xorg for your video, but if it crashes when set to vesa mode, you probably have other problems
[19:22] <ejer> _0x44_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[19:22] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, well heres xorg.conf,.,. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54243/
[19:22] <tokok> transmission will be default torrent client in ubuntu 8.04 replacing current torrent
[19:22] <MasterShrek> L3ttuc3, maybe, but the config files would be saved in the same place /home/user/.opera i think, and that may cause some problems, but it may be possible i guess...hard to say
[19:22] <_0x44_> ejer: Thanks a bunch!
[19:23] <L3ttuc3> MasterShrek now you mention it, yeah, you're right about the configs. damn. oh well.
[19:23] <bod_> bazhang, are you about?
[19:23] <ejer> _0x44_: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Bringing it up now, hold a sec
[19:23] <MasterShrek> bod_, tried: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-s3     ?
[19:23] <new2linux> got a question about multiple desktops
[19:23] <ejer> L3ttuc3: http://operawiki.info/OperaProfiles
[19:23] <shade052> go
[19:23] <bod_> MasterShrek, no,.,. i have no gui,. will apt-get still work? ,.,. what does that command do?
[19:24] <YixilTesiphon_> shade052: sorry, saw your "wait" just as I was hibernating
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: where did you get the horizontal sync, that isnt much of a spread
[19:24] <MasterShrek> bod_, yes apt-get will still work
[19:24] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : no probs
[19:24] <seaspider> hi guys, could do with a little help getting ubuntu onto my lappy. anybody got a sec to give me a hand?
[19:24] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, thats all mainly autodetected
[19:24] <L3ttuc3> ejer thanks.
[19:24] <MasterShrek> !info xserver-xorg-video-s3 | bod_
[19:24] <ubotu> bod_: xserver-xorg-video-s3 (source: xserver-xorg-video-s3): X.Org X server -- legacy S3 display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.5.0-2 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 120 kB
[19:24] <ejer> !ask | seaspider
[19:24] <ubotu> seaspider: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:24] <shade052> doy you have a router you connect to for internet?
[19:24] <new2linux> is it safe to have kde and xfce and if so is there a way to switch between the 2 ?
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: LEt me see what I can find on your hw..
[19:24] <ejer> new2linux: yes, safe, switch using session in login screen
[19:25] <xfroggy> is there a way to find out which version of the program it's going to install prior to installing it?
[19:25] <usr13_> new2linux: The login manager will give options.
[19:25] <new2linux> right now i use xubuntu, i wanna try kubuntu
[19:25] <kbrooks> new2linux, warning: you may not like the look of running KDE apps in XFCE
[19:25] <MasterShrek> new2linux, totally save to have both, choose a different session from your kdm before you log in to switch between the two
[19:25] <kbrooks> new2linux, or vice versa
[19:25] <bod_> MasterShrek, i already have that package
[19:25] <Wiredtape> ejer, none of my tries have worked.. still getting same error 100 - aptitude failed..
[19:25] <MasterShrek> bod_, ok, just worth a shot
[19:25] <DRebellion> new2linux: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[19:25] <ejer> Wiredtape: can you install anything?
[19:26] <Wiredtape> ejer, from tasksel?
[19:26] <new2linux> drebellion, thats how i can get it?
[19:26] <histo> xfroggy: apt-cache showpkg packagename
[19:26] <MasterShrek> bod_, what was the laptop model again? thinkpad something?
[19:26] <bod_> MasterShrek, although it says ,.,. set to manual installed        what does that mean?
[19:26] <histo> xfroggy: if you are using synaptics you can look at the description.
[19:26] <ejer> Wiredtape: tasksel just calls aptitude, so try installing something from add/remove, synaptic, anywhere
[19:26] <MasterShrek> bod_, thats nothing to worry about
[19:26] <bod_> MasterShrek, T22
[19:26] <MasterShrek> k
[19:26] <bod_> k
[19:26] <DRebellion> new2linux: yep, to get kde
[19:26] <seaspider> *ahem* yes well my problem is this... i'm trying to install on an acer travelmate 4072, but the install crashes out. When i run it in safe graphics mode, it gets as far as loading a tan colored screen with a mouse... then stays there ^__^
[19:26] <new2linux> thank you all very much
[19:26] <spiffman> hi all... i was messing with gconf-editor and now gnome doesn't load anything after gdm
[19:27] <Talon> !info Wifi
[19:27] <ubotu> Package wifi does not exist in gutsy
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_:   Try these numbers for that..   HorizSync       28-51        VertRefresh     43-60   ...
[19:27] <usr13_> seaspider: Try alternate CD
[19:27] <ejer> seaspider: sometimes ctrl-alt-backsppace will restart grafix and make it work on livecd
[19:27] <ejer> !wifi
[19:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:27] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, how would i edit xorg.conf from single mode?
[19:27] <xfroggy> histo, ah! thanks! I was using Add/Remove first, wasn't aware of synaptic
[19:27] <Wiredtape> ejer, found error.. I hadn't closed the update manager after update (sheesh)...
[19:27] <seaspider> user13_: this is the 3rd disk al the same
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: You can always run livecd...
[19:27] <ejer> :)
[19:28] <seaspider> ejer: will try that now thanks
[19:28] <MasterShrek> bod_, also try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage   maybe
[19:28] <moon> désoler mais je ne suis pas trés bon en anglais
[19:28] <ejer> !fr | moon
[19:28] <ubotu> moon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:28] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, no i cant,.,. i had to install with the text based installer because of this prob
[19:28] <bod_> MasterShrek, ok
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: I assume you know how to edit using sudo nano
[19:28] <spiffman> gconf-editor only modifies the contents of .gconf, correct? to reset ALL settings, just delete those contents?
[19:28] <usr13_> bod_: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:29] <bod_> MasterShrek, already got it,.,.lol ty
[19:29] <MasterShrek> use sudo nano
[19:29] <bod_> usr13, no gui
[19:29] <MasterShrek> oh single user, no need for sudo then
[19:29] <DRebellion> nah, sudo vim :P
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MasterShrek: His HorizSync in xorg is way wrong
[19:29] <YixilTesiphon_> shade052: so if I were to install this http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82936 (my wireless card is Atheros) it should then recognize my card, right?
[19:29] <usr13_> bod_: sudo  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:29] <MasterShrek> Jack_Sparrow, i didnt even look at that
[19:29] <bod_> usr13, does it work in single mode?
[19:29] <usr13_> bod_: or: sudo  vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:29] <MasterShrek> bod_, yes it will work in single user mode, nano is a text-based editor
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MasterShrek: 28 - 33 isnt enough for that laptop
[19:30] <MasterShrek> Jack_Sparrow, i have no idea what it should even be
[19:30] <bod_> MasterShrek, usr13, ty
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MasterShrek: I just gave it to him
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_:   Try these numbers for that..   HorizSync       28-51        VertRefresh     43-60   ...
[19:30] <MasterShrek> cool
[19:30] <_0x44_> ejer: Would you suggest hibernate instead?
[19:30] <MasterShrek> _0x44_, i would suggest shutdown
[19:30] <MasterShrek> lol
[19:30] <ejer> _0x44_: i don't use them, sorry
[19:30] <ejer> i agree with MasterShrek
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MasterShrek: If he cant get hsync he wont get any display
[19:31] <MasterShrek> i agree with you on that Jack_Sparrow, i didnt even think to look at that
[19:31] <shade052> YixilTesiphon : Sorry, if you have a wifi prob, and the card is Atheros. then i am no the man.. i have tried getting mine atheros working for a few months now. i gave up..
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> MasterShrek: Once that is set, I agree with you on going back to savage driver
[19:31] <_0x44_> MasterShrek: Why? Aside from the computer waking up unexpectedly, I haven't had any issues with suspend/hibernate.
[19:31] <YixilTesiphon_> shade052: damn, thanks though
[19:32] <_0x44_> ejer: Thanks for your help. :)
[19:32] <MasterShrek> bod_, also if you still cant get it, a pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be helpful
[19:32] <Zleeping> cedega is making me mad, I just want to play some Civilization 4
[19:32] <Zleeping> any suggestions, I'm using the latest engine
[19:32] <mohbana> just need some more confirmation, is anyone runnung ubuntu on an acer ferrari 4005?
[19:32] <ejer> good luck -0
[19:32] <Talon> There wouldnt happen to be a way to reinstall my wireless card without reinstalling is there ?
[19:32] <bod_> MasterShrek, Jack_Sparrow, having problems locating the bit i want to change
[19:32] <MasterShrek> mohbana, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/acer.html
[19:32] <YixilTesiphon_> somebody has a .iso available specifically for my computer, but it erases the hard disk and I'm not comfortable with that
[19:33] <MasterShrek> bod_, under Section "Monitor"
[19:33] <bod_> MasterShrek, found,. cheers
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: under section monitor
[19:33] <tass1412> how to get ALSA - CTL / PCM device?
[19:33] <spiffman> this is the second time gnome crashes this badly on me.... the first time i reinstalled ubuntu, that was two days ago...  all i did was edit .gconf, but now i deleted .gconf and .gconfd, but no fix.
[19:33] <trippss> how come when I want to install xrn from synaptic, it wants to basically remove every other package on the system? can Anyone else duplicate this?
[19:33] <usr13_> Talon: I don't know about "reinstalling", but you should be able to fix the problem.  What is it doing, exactly?  (or not doing?)
[19:34] <ejer> Zleeping: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2514
[19:34] <mohbana> ah yes thanks but id like to know if anyone here is running a ferrari
[19:34] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, MasterShrek, ok retrying now,.,.
[19:34] <ejer> very doubtful mohbana
[19:34] <Talon> Well, i rebooted after changing my sound properties and now my 'Wireless Connection' isnt even in the list any more
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: good luck
[19:35] <MasterShrek> mohbana, ive never heard good things about acer laptops with linux, especially new ones, they tend to have very new hardware that isnt quite supported yet, mohbana how old is the laptop?
[19:35] <K_Nine> tass1412: try running sudo alsaconf
[19:35]  * bod_ is crossing every part of his anatomy
[19:35] <MasterShrek> bod_, ouch
[19:35] <MasterShrek> lol
[19:35]  * bod_ asks everyone to do the same
[19:35]  * MasterShrek cringes
[19:35] <bod_> lol
[19:35] <mohbana> MasterShrek, i got it in oct 2005
[19:35] <ejer> mohbana: lots of people have tho
[19:35] <spiffman> haha
[19:36] <MasterShrek> mohbana, i would say it shoudl work just fine, use the newest ubuntu (gutsy)
[19:36] <tass1412> K_Nine: not found. 	cat .asoundrc.asoundconf ?
[19:36] <ejer> mohbana: http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html
[19:36] <acee1234> why does konqueror keep thinking im trying to access a file when i type a web address in and hit enter?
[19:36] <tass1412> but actually it doesn't really work :/
[19:36] <MasterShrek> mohbana, also, the installer cd doubles as a livecd, so you can test out the hardware before actually installing it
[19:36] <ejer> acee1234: put http;// first
[19:36]  * bod_ 's anatomy may be ruined for life, but he loves MasterShrek & Jack_Sparrow ,.,. if they were beautifull women, he'd thank them very nicely
[19:36] <DRebellion> acee1234: prefix with http://
[19:37] <bod_> MasterShrek, Jack_Sparrow, cheers guys,.,. worked!!!!
[19:37]  * MasterShrek is a beautiful man...is that enough?
[19:37] <MasterShrek> lol
[19:37] <bod_> no
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: That is nice.. but did it work
[19:37] <drunkmuppet> Hi. I am trying to setup a LAMP Webserver through Ubuntu-Server however I cannot get ethernet to work.
[19:37] <MasterShrek> awesome bod_, that was all Jack_Sparrow's doing though, he deserves the credit
[19:37] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, yer,. cheers
[19:37] <mohbana> MasterShrek, yes i was also asking about that earlier 1) do you know if i can install the wireless card drivers before i do the install of ubuntu 2) if i install software via synaptic when i decide to install ubuntu will they be installed also?
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Now to go for the gold... change vesa to  Driver          "savage"
[19:37] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, cheers dude,. thanks alot,. i really appreciate it
[19:37] <SinDoc> How can I make a USB Stick bootable?
[19:38] <acee1234> DRebellion: why does konqueror keep thinking im trying to access a file when i type a web address in and hit enter? typed "http://youtube.com/"
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Oh, and make a backup of your xorg..  :)
[19:38] <MasterShrek> mohbana, if you isntall the drivers when you are on the livecd, after you install and reboot into the new install, youll have to reinstall the wifi card
[19:38] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ok,. crossing again,.,. will i have to rechange those xorg settings?
[19:38] <acee1234> DRebellion: wrong paste sry
[19:38] <usr13_> Talon:  iwlist [interface] scanning
[19:38] <Talon> noob terms ? :)
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Should not need to change anything except that one line, unless you completely removed the savage driver
[19:38] <usr13_> Talon: sudo  iwlist wlan0 scanning
[19:38] <mohbana> MasterShrek, does the same thing apply to software?
[19:38] <K_Nine> tass1412: Then do you have alsa installed? Try sudo apt-get alsa
[19:39] <MasterShrek> mohbana, yes, nothign will be saved from the livecd environment
[19:39] <usr13_> Talon: iwconfig
[19:39] <tass1412> K_Nine: i do, it works with everything else
[19:39] <drunkmuppet>  Hi. I am trying to setup a LAMP Webserver through Ubuntu-Server and VMware however I cannot get ethernet to work.
[19:39] <shade052> SinDoc: try puppylinux on cd. boot from the cd . select install->on flash drive; it works
[19:39] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, kk,. will be bak in a min
[19:39] <Talon> says no wireless extentions
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Again, good luck
[19:39] <VeganZombie> the constant nick changes by sportygal is getting annoying...
[19:40] <usr13_> Talon: What NIC are u using?
[19:40] <aladdinsane> does anybody know of a good php/xhtml editor? especially one with "auto text" or whatever it's called when the editor guesses the code you are about to write
[19:40]  * bod_ is painfully recrossing the antomy
[19:40] <Talon> Just the built in intel one
[19:40] <bod_> anatomy
[19:40] <DRebellion> aladdinsane: autocompletion, i believe
[19:40] <Talon> it was working like 30 minutes ago, and i broke something proly messing with the sound output
[19:40] <MasterShrek> Talon, the network isnt working from the virtual machine?
[19:40] <sportygal> sorry vegan - will fix in one sec - gonna try logging in with another client to fix names
[19:40] <SinDoc> shade052: let's say that my CD-Drive is dead
[19:41] <VeganZombie> I crave Grains, who can help?
[19:41] <usr13_> Talon: lspci
[19:41] <Wulfie> hey folks I've run into a bit of an odd problem and am looking for some assistance.  I am trying to use my media keys - I have the stop, volume, previous and next buttons all working but the play/pause button refuses to work.  In prefered applications it shows up at XF86AudioPause but I set that in gconf-editor and it never registers when I am using the button.  I am using amarok as my audio player (which I can't select as my default
[19:41] <Wulfie> media app)
[19:41] <Talon> I am such a fucking idiot, i have this nice little button next to my sound that when pressed, turns off bluetooth + wireless card, i acidentaly pressed it :( it works now
[19:41] <aladdinsane> DRebellion: thats right, i'll google away, thnx
[19:41] <MasterShrek> !language | Talon
[19:41] <ubotu> Talon: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:41] <Talon> sorry
[19:42] <Nick1> Who owns you Americans?:
[19:42] <Nick1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg
[19:42] <Nick1> About YouTube:
[19:42] <Nick1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqkFLBXdvGU
[19:42] <K_Nine> SinDoc: try this page http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[19:42] <VeganZombie> !Grains | VeganZombie
[19:42] <VeganZombie> :S
[19:42] <DRebellion> !ops | Nick1
[19:42] <ubotu> Nick1: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[19:42] <shade052> SinDoc: did it some time back.. you will want to do something with the syslinux lile and setting the boot option on to the drive.. google it . it is the best friend
[19:42] <_nix_> Hello everybody.. I'm running transmission gtk here.. is there a way to hand over the running torrents to a transmission daemon and shut off gtk and Xorg?
[19:42] <usr13_> Talon: Glad you figured it out.  (But rembmer, there are many on this channel, and don't want to offend any of them. :)
[19:42] <K_Nine> tass1412:  Can you change it in the mixer window?
[19:42] <spiffman> if someone could please help, gnome crashes fatally all the time and i JUST reinstalled ubuntu. what can i do to get it back?
[19:43] <Talon> I forgot, no cussing ill hold my tounge better next time mate
[19:43] <shade052> SinDoc: have the link somewhere here cant find . :{
[19:43] <usr13_> spiffman: memtest
[19:43] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, config & editing done,. restarting !
[19:43] <tass1412> K_Nine: alsamixer? yep
[19:43] <SinDoc> I'm actually helping a friend switch, so he's now running windows
[19:43] <spiffman> usr13_ i can log in through terminal, but i want to fix gnome
[19:43] <drunkmuppet> tion refused)
[19:43] <drunkmuppet> -
[19:43] <usr13_> spiffman: Was it working ok before the "reinstall"?
[19:43] <drunkmuppet> lolz
[19:44] <mikebot> Is there a way I can add a folder to my main menu so that I can navigate through the folder through the menu?
[19:44] <spiffman> usr13_ no, that was the reason why i reinstalled it
[19:44] <usr13_> spiffman: What was the problem before?
[19:44] <spiffman> usr13_ but it was working perfectly for a while
[19:44]  * MasterShrek has to run, back in an hour....
[19:44] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, no,.,. the prob is in the savage driver,.,.damn,.,. rebooting
[19:45] <usr13_> spiffman: What is your video card?
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Vesa isnt too bad...
[19:45] <spiffman> usr13_ same thing, except it also gave me the error window "some things will not be functional, sounds, themes, etc"
[19:45] <spiffman> usr13_ stock intel card that came with the dell vostro
[19:45] <usr13_> spiffman: Reinstalling is not going to help, will just do same thing again....
[19:45]  * DRebellion thinks that the !repo factoid contains a broken link to !EasySource
[19:45] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, its not a muckk aboout comp,. its gonna be my dads work machine so not really needing it to be astheatically amazing
[19:45] <evil_tech> network manager wont automatically start my ethernet adapter
[19:46] <Pici> DRebellion: I'll take a look at it.
[19:46] <spiffman> usr13_ yea, i figured... what do you suggest then?
[19:46] <usr13_> spiffman: lspci  (tell us what video card you have)
[19:46] <evil_tech> anything i should look at for why that may be?
[19:46] <DRebellion> evil_tech: does it work if you start it manually?
[19:46] <VeganZombie> lspci -nn | grep VGA is better :)
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: You can also try    sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage
[19:46] <evil_tech> yes
[19:47] <usr13_> spiffman: issue command  lspci   and tell us what it says about the video card. (Should give info about vidoe card.)
[19:47] <evil_tech> but this is a system for sale so it has to work "out the box"
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bod_: Glad you at least have basic functions while you work on tweaking it..
[19:47] <usr13_> spiffman: What processor / speed?  How much memory?
[19:47] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, ive got that package,.,. cheers,. il do tweaking for the next few hours.,.,.lol,.,. thanks alot
[19:48] <spiffman> usr13_ ok, i did the command, but i cant scroll up to see hte video card :P
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np glad to help... I am away for an hour or so..
[19:48] <VeganZombie> spiffman, lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:48] <VeganZombie> spiffman, puts it on one line
[19:48] <spiffman> usr13_ intel core 2 duo 1.81 ghz
[19:48] <usr13_> spiffman: Shift-PageUp
[19:48] <Talon> Hey Usr13_ would there be any specific reason why my sound doesnt play through my headset in firefox but the test sounds do?
[19:49] <usr13_> Talon: I don't know.
[19:49] <usr13_> Talon: What audo chip is it?
[19:49] <spiffman> thanks, ok its intel 82g33/g31 express integrated graphics controller
[19:49] <Pici> DRebellion: fixed.
[19:49]  * bod_ thinks everyone should give free cookies to Jack_Sparrow 
[19:49] <Talon> Any easy way to tell ? :)
[19:50] <spiffman> usr13_ its an intel 82G33/G31
[19:50] <bod_> Jack_Sparrow, thanks again,.,. good night
[19:51] <steve_j> hi all. is there a quick command-line command that will remove the first n lines of my log files, but leave the last m lines?
[19:51] <neos857> help
[19:51] <neos857> help me plz
[19:51] <starshine> steve_j: 'head' or 'tail' in combination can get you good results
[19:52] <starshine> steve_j: forcing an early logrotate might be easier :)
[19:52] <evil_tech> !ask | neo857
[19:53] <ubotu> neo857: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:53] <mkquist> neos857: ask a question...
[19:53] <neos857> okismyps3
[19:53] <spiffman> usr13_ you have no suggestion then?
[19:54] <neos857> i ned help
[19:54] <StLemur> Hi, I'm running 7.10. I just uprgaded the kernel from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 to overcome a Bittorrent problem and now I have no sound. There is no audio* in /dev/.
[19:54] <neos857> cool
[19:54] <usr13_> spiffman: grep intel /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:54] <neos857> im on  xp
[19:54] <VeganZombie> !Enter | neos857
[19:54] <ubotu> neos857: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:55] <mnemonica> Alright, someone redirected me before to the wacom help page at ubuntu's site. But that didn't help me. The scroll on my touchpad... The mouse area for laptops... Isn't working. Please help me, I've been trying to resolve the issue for a week now and I've been several places for help.
[19:55] <spiffman> usr13_ Driver "intel"
[19:55] <spiffman> usr13_ is all that it prints
[19:55] <linduxed> my flashplayer (nonfree, installed manually with the tar.gz package) worked perfectly yesterday,,,now where there should be a vid on youtube theres just a white space
[19:55] <neos857> !Enter
[19:55] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:55] <neos857> ubotu
[19:55] <usr13_> StLemur: alsamixer
[19:55] <VeganZombie> omg
[19:56] <neos857> usr13_
[19:56] <sedega> I installed ubuntu server and chose LAMP configuration, but it seems like apache wasnt installed, is this normal?
[19:56] <pepperjack> sedega: LMP?
[19:56] <neos857> g2g
[19:56] <linduxed> is there anyway to check why?
[19:56] <sedega> I don't think anythingwas
[19:56] <mnemonica> Fine... A one line question? I need help getting my touchpad vert scroll to work.
[19:56] <sedega> no LAMP at all
[19:57] <evil_tech> neo857:what are you attempting to accomplish
[19:57] <mnemonica> Can someone help me wit that?
[19:57] <mnemonica> with*
[19:57] <sedega> i had to apt them
[19:57] <LMJ> hi
[19:57] <neos857> yo LMJ
[19:57] <Arelis> I have a desktop without borders now. Gutsy fails after a few months, dapper has a segfaulting metacity.. and Ubuntu is the most user-friendly distro on the planet. Maybe that's why i couldn't find a good distro. what the heck is wrong with my PC?
[19:57] <Cyrus25801> how do i run active-x in mozilla
[19:58] <usr13_> spiffman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:58] <StLemur> usr13: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[19:58] <pinoyskull> any sed experts here?
[19:58] <neos857> no
[19:58] <XLV> Cyrus25801, you dont
[19:58] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder?
[19:58] <LMJ> I would like to know if an update of libtorrent/rtorrent couple ?   Gutsy provide  rTorrent 0.7.4 - libTorrent 0.11.4 but they are outdated
[19:58] <mnemonica> I need help getting my synaptic touchpad vert scroll to work, can anyone help me?
[19:58] <neos857> im a bot
[19:59] <mnemonica> I need help getting my synaptic touchpad vert scroll to work, can anyone help me?
[19:59] <Cyrus25801> XLV: i need to run active-x in ubuntu for an ip camera.is there any way to do it
[19:59] <neos857> im call neos
[19:59] <mnemonica> whoops
[19:59] <starshine> anyone able to help me on hardy tryign to get JNLP files to work instead of merely download?  I got the java plugin able to do 'normal' applets.
[19:59] <adelie43> can synaptic be setup to use a SOCKS5 proxy?
[19:59] <Cyrus25801> i need to run active-x in ubuntu for an ip camera.is there any way to do it
[19:59] <drunkmuppet> Hi. I messed up my /etc/network/interfaces file. How can I fix it :)
[19:59] <Pici> !ot | neos857
[19:59] <ubotu> neos857: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:59] <Cyrus25801> sorry
[19:59] <enkidu_ak> I've got the ATI blues :( For the life of me I can't get hardware accelartion to work with this X1100.
[19:59] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder?
[19:59] <XLV> Cyrus25801, use wine to run internet explorer in ubuntu
[19:59] <`Matir> Does anyone know if it's reasonable to dual-boot amd64 and x86 on the same system?  I currently have x86 on my laptop and am looking for a way to make a smooth transition.
[19:59] <scorphus> hello, metacity is not running when I log in and the window decorations are gone, can you help me?
[19:59] <Cyrus25801> XLV thanx
[19:59] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder?
[20:00] <XLV> Cyrus25801, or get an ip camera that doesnt need MS's proprietary pos
[20:00] <neos857> hi ppl  im neosbot or call me neos
[20:00] <adelie43> Matir: don't put them on the same partition / root and you will be fine
[20:00] <hsystemxX> scorphus , open terminal and write:   metacity --replace
[20:00] <XLV> !repeat | kahrytan
[20:00] <ubotu> kahrytan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:00] <Cyrus25801> XLV: din't know it in the begining.oh well
[20:00] <mnemonica> I need help getting my synaptic touchpad vert scroll to work, can anyone help me?
[20:00] <Cyrus25801> XLV: thanx
[20:00] <Indiadev_Techie> wher do i get driver for my adsl modem > UTSTARCOM ADSL 2+ Modem/Router... Model No UT300R2U ????
[20:00] <neos857> !patience
[20:00] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:00] <usr13_> StLemur: sudo alsaconf
[20:01] <neos857> sx
[20:01] <neos857> sa
[20:01] <neos857> sa
[20:01] <neos857> s
[20:01] <neos857> soy
[20:01] <scorphus> hsystemxX: I do and it gets fixed. but have to do it everytime I log in.
[20:01] <Indiadev_Techie> for ubuntu....
[20:01] <jpatrick> !enter > neos857
[20:01] <VeganZombie> thanks Pici
[20:01] <adelie43> a SOCKS5 proxy can be an http proxy, right?
[20:01] <StLemur> usr13: sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[20:01] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder?
[20:01] <`Matir> adelie43, if the browser supports socks
[20:01] <Indiadev_Techie> wher do i get driver for my adsl modem > UTSTARCOM ADSL 2+ Modem/Router... Model No UT300R2U ???? for ubuntu...............
[20:01] <starshine> apparently the jnlp stuff claims to need "webstart" but some pesky thing called 'javaws' isn't really getting wired up automagically
[20:02] <hsystemxX> scorphus add that command to the session. System->Preferences->Sessions -> Startup programs
[20:02] <scorphus> hsystemxX: ok
[20:02] <adelie43> so, setting up synaptic to use an http proxy whose address is a socks5 proxy will work, or no?
[20:02] <Indiadev_Techie> can any one help me ?????
[20:02] <askand> How can I acess files on a mac that is on the network from ubuntu?
[20:02] <usr13_> StLemur: sudo apt-get install alsa-tools
[20:02] <LMJ> askand : via nfs share
[20:02] <mnemonica> I need help getting my synaptic touchpad vert scroll to work, can anyone help me?
[20:02] <spiffman> usr13_ i went through it, nothing strange was in the configuration... i think the problem lies in gnome, not the xserver (because gdm loads fine)
[20:03] <pepperjack> kahrytan: rm -fr ~/Desktop; ln -s /home/$USER/Desktop /home/$USER/.Trash :)
[20:03] <adelie43> `Matir: I think where I am they are throttling ubuntu repositories
[20:03] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, what's your problem?
[20:03] <neos857> mnemonica no soy
[20:03] <kahrytan> pepperjack->  huh?
[20:03] <LMJ> mnemonica : there is way to configure it in your gnome preference menu or so
[20:03] <Indiadev_Techie> wher do i get driver for my adsl modem > UTSTARCOM ADSL 2+ Modem/Router... Model No UT300R2U ????
[20:03] <pepperjack> kahrytan: that was backwards anyway
[20:03] <StLemur> usr13: OK, doing that. After that sudo alsaconf?
[20:03] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: wher do i get driver for my adsl modem > UTSTARCOM ADSL 2+ Modem/Router... Model No UT300R2U ????
[20:03] <kahrytan> pepperjack->  There is  Desktop folder
[20:03] <mnemonica> LMJ: Mmmk... Pretty sure that doesn't have what I'm looking for, but I'll check. Thanks for the reply and suggestion, I'll get back to you.
[20:03] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: the ubuntu version.....
[20:03] <neos857> ?---> op ]
[20:04] <LMJ> Indiadev_Techie : it's an USB modem ?
[20:04] <kahrytan> pepperjack->  problem, the desktop folder isnt being used. .trash folder is being displayed on desktop
[20:04] <sybariten> I have USB harddrives. I have USB memories. One of them runs Ubuntu live. I have a LAN and several computers. Can i somehow install Ubuntu (server) on a machine without needing to burn a CD ?
[20:04] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, I don't know about ADSL. I sorry
[20:04] <scorphus> hsystemxX: it's already there, on top position
[20:04] <Indiadev_Techie>  xobius: yes its a USB/ETHERNET Modem/Router...
[20:05] <mnemonica> LMJ: Nope... nothing there.. hold on... brb
[20:05] <hsystemxX> did you installed emerald manager?
[20:05] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, did you connect using Ethernet Card?
[20:05] <hsystemxX> scorphus did you installed emerald manager?
[20:05] <norty> I need help, I've downloaded an iso of matlab (through my university) but i don't know how to install it, any help?
[20:05] <gnuskool_> what the diff btwn a wireless acess point and a wifi router?
[20:06] <PiranhaP> How do I upgrade my Feisty server (e.g. no gui) to Gutsy?  I tried installing update-manager on it and running it on the X server of another host, and it runs, but it eventually complains about not having an 'ubuntu-desktop' metapackage installed.
[20:06] <Indiadev_Techie> sybariten: the install it on virtual machine software such as VMware, Microsoft Virtual PC......
[20:06] <mnemonica> LMJ: Ok, yeah... Nothing in preferences, any other ideas?
[20:06] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder? I need to change it back so Desktop is showed on the desktop and not .Trash folder
[20:06] <gnuskool_> what the diff btwn a wireless acess point and a wifi router?
[20:06] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: Yes..
[20:06] <scorphus> hsystemxX: no, not beryl nor compiz... I just did "aptitude install gnome-session" to have a gui on this gutsy server (under Xen over NoMachine)
[20:07] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie,  because if you use Ethernet Card, is not necessary any extra driver
[20:07] <LMJ> not Gnome around mnemonica, sorry
[20:07] <mnemonica> LMJ: Mmmk. Thanks anyway.
[20:07] <spiffman> usr13_ ok well i'm going to try to install kde, if that works, i'll see if i can mess with gnome and get it working again
[20:07] <sybariten> Indiadev_Techie: uhm... its OK with me to wipe the drive... its not that...
[20:07] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie,  your Eth Card is detected?
[20:08] <PiranhaP> gnuskool_: a router will have the capability of forwarding (Router) or NATing (Gateway) your packets to another network.  An access-point, by strict definition, just bridges wifi clients to a LAN.
[20:08] <mnemonica> After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[20:08] <usr13_> gnuskool_: Just 2 names for same device.
[20:08] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: yes...
[20:08] <kahrytan> Can someone answer/fix my problem
[20:08] <zhangwei> yes
[20:08] <hsystemxX> scorphus, sudo apt-get install gnome  , or try sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity
[20:08] <gnuskool_> thx PiranhaP  and usr13
[20:08] <kenan> I am having a problem with my Quickcam Fusion, the camera works but I cant seem to get its microphone working, how can I fix this?
[20:08] <fibbs> Hi folks
[20:08] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, then you can config the Router with your web browser
[20:09] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: yes... i do prefer to perform a clean format... b4 installing ubuntu server edition...
[20:09] <neos857>  IDENTIFY-MSG REGISTER
[20:09] <norty>  I need help, I've downloaded an iso of matlab (through my university) but i don't know how to install it, any help?
[20:09] <kahrytan> Can someone help me?
[20:09] <scorphus> hsystemxX: hmm.. good points, let me try them
[20:09] <sedega> may god help you
[20:09] <usr13_> gnuskool_: wireless AP, wireless router, wifi AP, wifi router, etc...
[20:09] <fibbs> any url to a howto on how to configure initramfs-utils to include programs and scripts in initrd?
[20:09] <StrangeCharm> i'm having trouble hibernating a fujitsu laptop - when i click hibernate from the power menu, it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor, and i can't do anything. can i rememdy this?
[20:09] <PriceChild> norty, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[20:10] <kahrytan> How in the world does Nautilus desktop become the Trash folder? I need to change it back so Desktop is showed on the desktop and not .Trash folder. If you dont understand problem, just ask.
[20:10] <sedega> StrangeCharm: you using ati driver?
[20:10] <PriceChild> kahrytan, it'll probably be a setting in gconf somewhere
[20:10] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, read the router's hanbook. In general have an adress similar to http://192.0.0.1  or 10.0.0.2
[20:10] <kahrytan> PriceChild->  But where
[20:10] <mnemonica> After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[20:11] <hsystemxX> scorphus , also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity-commons
[20:11] <Indiadev_Techie> sybariten: wher r u from...
[20:11] <kahrytan> PriceChild->  I didnt change anything  in gconf for it to do this. I have no idea how it happened. And it's a fresh install
[20:11] <scorphus> hsystemxX: ok
[20:11] <adelie43> how can I run synaptic over a SOCKS5 proxy (via ssh)
[20:11] <PiranhaP> Can I upgrade a server to gutsy by merely replacing instances of 'feisty' with 'gutsy' in my sources.list and then apt-get update and upgrade?
[20:12] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: wher r u from.. bro.. ???
[20:12] <Pici> !ot | Indiadev_Techie
[20:12] <ubotu> Indiadev_Techie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:12] <PriceChild> kahrytan, /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir
[20:12] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, tell me what router is
[20:12] <PiranhaP> Well, I'm gonna try it, and if it doesn't work, I'm going to blame you all for not warning me otherwise!   j/k :P
[20:12] <drunkmuppets> What does "Temporary Failure when trying to access..." when doing a apt-get update mean?
[20:14] <kahrytan> hello
[20:14] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: my router is of UTSTARCOM brand... nd the model no is UT300R2U
[20:14] <sybariten> Indiadev_Techie: sweden, why
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[20:14] <drunkmuppets> oh hai
[20:14] <drunkmuppets> What does "Temporary Failure when trying to access..." when doing a apt-get update?
[20:14] <nalioth> drunkmuppets: it means that the network took a pause and didn't resume the connection properly
[20:14] <Indiadev_Techie> sybariten: Just askin....
[20:14] <drunkmuppets> hmm
[20:14] <drunkmuppets> it's doing that for all my updates
[20:15] <nalioth> drunkmuppets: and please don't repeat (we saw you the first time)
[20:15] <sybariten> Indiadev_Techie: ok
[20:15] <nalioth> drunkmuppets: try using another mirror
[20:15] <kahrytan> PriceChild->  That helped. Accept I dont want Home to be desktop. but unchecking restored it to Desktop folder
[20:15] <Liquideath> guys
[20:15] <drunkmuppets> nalioth sorry: i was getting, please register to talk.
[20:15] <ouellettesr> does anyone know whar dir firefox themese are held in?
[20:15] <Liquideath> what is the application that controls the Beryl UI?
[20:15] <neos857> ACCESS
[20:15] <StLemur> usr13: I've installed alsa-tools and sudo alsaconf still gives 'sudo: alsaconf: command not found'.
[20:15] <Seveas> ouellettesr, ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/somestring/
[20:15] <mnemonica> After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[20:15] <ouellettesr> Seveas: thanks
[20:15] <neos857> ACCESS
[20:15] <sybariten> Indiadev_Techie: I know, you figured i might be scottish since i was too cheap to burn a CD for the ubuntu install....
[20:15] <neos857> ACCESS
[20:16] <mneptok> POWERPOINT
[20:16] <mneptok> POWERPOINT
[20:16] <mneptok> damn. still not working.
[20:16] <Seveas> /cs k mneptok OOIMPRESS
[20:16] <hepek> i have the strangest problem ... In Firefox and some other GTK+ apps, Ctrl+A does nothing and Alt+A selects all in textboxes all of the sudden... Any ideas?
[20:16] <chrischie> np
[20:16] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: aww... man... i dont think like that...
[20:17] <evil_tech> anyone have any ideas why network manager wont start my ethernet card like it is supposed to?
[20:17] <frapzzt> hi i encrypted my partition like in the ubuntuusers tutorial now ic becama this error http://nopaste.biz/34074
[20:17] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: is ther anythin i can do for ya...
[20:17] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: i too, do the same thing...
[20:18] <sybariten> Indiadev_Techie: nah... i'm investigating the matter As-We-Speak
[20:18] <drunkmuppets> Ok when I try to do a wget, I get Temporary failure in name resolution.
[20:18] <sybariten> i'm "on it", as an american cop would say
[20:18] <scorphus> hsystemxX: hmm... nautilus is consuming 99% of the virtual CPU
[20:18] <nalioth> drunkmuppets: your DNS server is on the fritz
[20:18] <scorphus> something is not right in this install
[20:18] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: so do ya want to install ubuntu server edition on ur portable drive...
[20:18] <hsystemxX> scorphus, nautilus is a file browser. As you know. try kiling it
[20:19] <exneo> I have an hp pavilion a819n and I put linux mint4.0 basically ubuntu on my box alsa recognizes my alc880 realtek hda-intel card but sound doesn't play I am a newbie sort-of I don't want to wind up compiling drivers through the terminal I always get errors so does any body know about this error and plz help me also I use a mac theme but can't find the apple logo on the menu symbol I don't know how to macmenu hack well plz help so I can kick
[20:19] <exneo>  the windows
[20:19] <scorphus> hsystemxX: I already killed it and aptitude purged it and some others
[20:19] <frojnd1> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=708 ttl=64 time=716 ms (DUP!)   what does DUP mean
[20:19] <exneo> I have an hp pavilion a819n and I put linux mint4.0 basically ubuntu on my box alsa recognizes my alc880 realtek hda-intel card but sound doesn't play I am a newbie sort-of I don't want to wind up compiling drivers through the terminal I always get errors so does any body know about this error and plz help me also I use a mac theme but can't find the apple logo on the menu symbol I don't know how to macmenu hack well plz help so I can kick
[20:19] <exneo>  the windows
[20:19] <mut80r> hey everyone, just wondering if there's a way to transfer the live cd to an external harddrive so that I can use it in a live session and/or install from it much faster than from cd ?
[20:19] <kahrytan> hsystemxX->  better idea is to nautilus --replace
[20:19] <exneo> sup
[20:20] <emmeram> Not to repeat myself, but does anyone know about symbolic links when using pure-ftpd?
[20:20] <exneo> I don't have sound working in gutsy I have realtek alc880
[20:20] <hsystemxX> scorphus, why you purged nautilus?
[20:20] <spiffman> usr13_ thought i'd follow up... i installed fluxbox, that worked, so i knew the problem was in gnome. deleted .gnome and .gnome2 folders, and now gnome is completely reset and works. oh, and thanks!
[20:20] <Indiadev_Techie>  sybariten: its 2.00AM in India....
[20:20] <kahrytan> hsystemxX->  to perhaps use another manager
[20:20] <exneo> any help
[20:20] <scorphus> hsystemxX: to see how it goes without it, but I'm installing it again
[20:20] <exneo> xchat rules
[20:21] <usr13_> spiffman: Very well. Glad you figured it out.  And thanks for telling us, good FYI  :)
[20:21] <mut80r> frojnd1: DUP means it was a duplicated packet, maybe your router sent it a 2nd time because it thought the 1st one didn't get through ?
[20:21] <hsystemxX> Ubuntu server comes without desktop manager right?
[20:21] <hsystemxX> i mean no graphic user interface.
[20:21] <hsystemxX> right?
[20:21] <PriceChild> HymnToLife, right
[20:22] <PriceChild> whoops
[20:22] <exneo> so does anybody know how to fix sound problems with realtek soundcards in ubuntu
[20:22] <IndyGunFreak> right....
[20:22] <mkquist> exneo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 try this page
[20:22] <PriceChild> hsystemxX, right, but you can still install it on top
[20:22] <Indiadev_Techie> ;-) Hi everybody....
[20:22] <IndyGunFreak> exneo: are you sure itse realtek?
[20:22] <hsystemxX> yes, i know. And scorphus, you installed gnome-ssesion?
[20:22] <hsystemxX> to have a GUI?
[20:22] <Indiadev_Techie> can i install k3b on ubuntu.....
[20:22] <scorphus> hsystemxX: yes
[20:22] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: of course
[20:22] <drunkmuppets> How do I check my DNS settings?
[20:22] <exneo> yes k3b works in ubuntu
[20:23] <mut80r> I swear the GUI is gnome-desktop ?
[20:23] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: How ? wher do i get the software...
 hsystemxX: no, not beryl nor compiz... I just did "aptitude install gnome-session" to have a gui on this gutsy server (under Xen over NoMachine)
[20:23] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: open a terminal, sudo apt-get install k3b
[20:23] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: i mean the same version that we use on KDE.....
[20:23] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: now it is going to want to install a ton of dependencies
[20:23] <mut80r> oh ok ..
[20:23] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: should be the same, as far as i know.
[20:24] <VictorE> drunkmuppet: /etc/resolv.conf ...
[20:24] <exneo> so I need to get my realtek working with alsa how
[20:24] <drunkmuppets> thankyou
[20:24] <hsystemxX> scorphus , did you tried: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core gnome-core
[20:24] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, do sudo ifconfig
[20:24] <IndyGunFreak> exneo: i've asked you three times, are you sure its realtek
[20:24] <IndyGunFreak> they typically just work
[20:24] <mut80r> I have a realtek hd and mine just works.
[20:24] <exneo> yes hda-intel realtek alc880 chipset onboard
[20:24] <Corty> Heyho
[20:24] <exneo> indyguyfreak
[20:24] <drunkmuppets> lol how do I know what my DNS should be? I am in VMWare
[20:24] <IndyGunFreak> !intelhda | exneo thats a bit different
[20:24] <ubotu> exneo thats a bit different: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:25] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, what ip have your eth0?
[20:25] <exneo> tried but its to tough
[20:25] <scorphus> hsystemxX: no, I'm installing them
[20:25] <mut80r> nice script indy
[20:25] <exneo> I need somthing easy
[20:25] <Indiadev_Techie>  IndyGunFreak: i also have a 2002 model Pentium 4 with 128mb ram nd 40gb hardisk... can i install ubuntu on this machine ????
[20:25] <drunkmuppets> yes
[20:25] <exneo> but running the install script doestnt work
[20:25] <mkquist> exneo: did you check that page? usually works for me..
[20:25] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: i don't see why not, the ram is a bit low.
[20:25] <Indiadev_Techie> xobius: 192.168.1.1....
[20:25] <exneo> I t recognizes it but it wont play
[20:25] <IndyGunFreak> exneo: ? the install script?..
[20:25] <exneo> Im a bit of a noob
[20:26] <exneo> ubuntu for bout a month
[20:26] <masquerade> Anyone know if there is a known way to install Ubuntu from a USB thumbdrive with the setup in windows rather than a preexisting linux install? I don't have an optical drive but I do have a bunch of 2 and 4GB thumbdrives
[20:26] <IndyGunFreak> !install | masquerade
[20:26] <ubotu> masquerade: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:26] <hsystemxX> scorphus, if gnome is consuming more resources than the acceptable, try a lighter desktop manager like xfce.
[20:26] <exneo> yes search google pendrive has a nice guide
[20:26] <mut80r> masquarade: try setting your BIOS to boot from USB-HDD and plug your memory stick in
[20:26] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: yes i know... but would ubuntu work fine on this machine if i set swap partition 2GB... ????
[20:26] <pinoyskull> need help using sed.. who can help me
[20:27] <exneo> probably but if its persistant you want a big partion
[20:27] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: like i said, its low on ram.. and if you're system is constantly accessing swap, its going to be slow
[20:27] <scorphus> hsystemxX: I have to mimic the most used configuration, as this is for software tests purposes, and many ubuntu users report problems with it
[20:27] <mut80r> brb restarting into installed system ..
[20:27] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: i would rpobably look at a straight debian etch install, as opposed to Ubuntu, on that little ram
[20:28] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: so should i ubgrade my ram (SDRAM.... they rare to seen in the market these days)....
[20:28] <exneo> so can I graphically compile the driver I've updated alsa and the kernal is new should I install the alc880 codecs? indygunfreak
[20:28] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is there any way to wget all the files in an apache directory listing?
[20:28] <iKap> whats the difference in restore and reinstall?
[20:28] <IndyGunFreak> exneo: i would.
[20:28] <norty>  i just installed matlab 7.4.0 for linux, and when i start it i cannot see the toolbar icons, i know they are there since i can click on them and windows appear but the links and labels are gone.. any help?
[20:29] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: if you cna upgrade the ram, I would, or like i said, go with a straight Debian install, Debian is pretty similar to Ubuntu, but not quite as resource heavy.
[20:29] <exneo> should I use kompile ive tried I get errors is their a better tool
[20:29] <dido> hello
[20:29] <exneo> indygunfreak
[20:29] <Indiadev_Techie>  IndyGunFreak: do u mean the that dos type installation .........
[20:29] <hsystemxX> iKap, guessing, restore - exact copy of a previous. reinstall - reinstalation with new configuration.
[20:29] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: i assume you're name means you're in India, but youc an find SDRam on ebay all the time for pretty cheap.
[20:29] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: i mean for either...
[20:29] <xobius> Indiadev_Techie, http://192.168.1.1/ in the browser and entering Username: admin and Password: admin
[20:29] <Indiadev_Techie>  IndyGunFreak: Yes.... i m frm India...
[20:29] <iKap> hsystemxX, if i do a restore would i loose my settings, apps, files?
[20:30] <Indiadev_Techie>  IndyGunFreak: wher u frm ???
[20:30] <hsystemxX> iKap,maybe, depends on what type of restore you are doing.
[20:30] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: ok, well, id on't know how the market is there, but i've gotten old memory on ebay pretty cheap.
[20:30] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: indpls, IN
[20:31] <Escudero> Hi, what are the repositories of source.list default?
[20:31] <Dandre> Hello,
[20:31] <scorphus> hsystemxX: maybe it is something with NoMachine. I'll backup this image and "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" to see if I get this fixed... the drawback is that this will install 400+ packages and more than 380MB
[20:31] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: ok i will shop it on ebay...
[20:31] <scorphus> s/and more/and download more/
[20:32] <R_en_GUtsy> hello... I need to know how to activate the aegis protocol for use with WPA. My card works with wep, but Uni has WPA Enterprise and it doesn't seem to be supported. Anyone knows of any project related with this aegis sec.prot?
[20:32] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: also can u help me buy my new system ???
[20:32] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: what do you mean by that?
[20:32] <norty> nevermind got it fixed
[20:32] <IndyGunFreak> exneo: i can't really be anymore clear on the instructions, i compiled alsa followign those instructions, and it made my intelhda work fine.
[20:32] <adelie43> anyone having issue with the repositories being REALLY slow today? every server I am getting <1kBps
[20:32] <Wiredtape> hey.. is it possible to run ubuntu as a virtual machine inside windows? with 1 exception.. ubuntu installation is on different drive..
[20:33] <Starnestommy> Wiredtape: I think virtual PC can do it, but I'm not sure about vmware
[20:33] <Dandre> I am searching for a vnc viewer that can scale the screen so that it can fit in the viewer window. For instance, if the server has a display array of 1500x1000, and the viewer 800x600, I want to have the whole display in the viewer window
[20:33] <R_en_GUtsy> ANybody else having trouble with WPA Enterprise? WPA Personal seems to work...
[20:33] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: not on ebay man.... i mean can u help me configure my new pc that i want to buy... im into animaton,VFX/SFX & Cinematics....
[20:33] <invit> Hi
[20:33] <hepek> when I press Ctrl+A in any GTK+ textbox it doesn't select all but moves cursor to the beginning of the line, how can I fix this...
[20:34] <adelie43> Wiredtape: ubuntu needs to be installed from the VM. you can't run the same install because the hardware is technically different between being a host and a VM
[20:34] <IndyGunFreak> Indiadev_Techie: wouldnt' even know where to start, sorry
[20:34] <Wiredtape> Starnestommy, ok..
[20:34] <invit> Anibody know if 9dragon can work with Wine please ?
[20:34] <R_en_GUtsy> if you are to use ubuntu isnide a virtual machine on winodws you may be able to download it. Using vmware?
[20:35] <Indiadev_Techie> IndyGunFreak: Then sorry to disturb ya.... but thanx 4 ur Help....
[20:35] <R_en_GUtsy> invit try wine-doors. The best way to know is to try it. Wine is just 10MB
[20:35] <Wiredtape> adelie43, that's what I was thinking.. one more question.. would a ubuntu amd 64bit vm be able to run at that bit depth, while inside a windows 32 bit?
[20:35] <adelie43> Wiredtape: if you want to run ubuntu in a VM, you need to download the install iso for the host and them mount it in the vmware config for that machine and boot to it, then run install as normal
[20:35] <adelie43> Wiredtape: no
[20:35] <Ritter_Rost> guten morgen
[20:36] <Wiredtape> adelie43, so which version should I download?
[20:36] <Wiredtape> machine is 64bit amd.
[20:36] <muuddflap> will someone please tell what is the easiest printer to install on 7.10
[20:36] <R_en_GUtsy> Wiredtape: ifg you are to run ubuntu in vmware, just download the bmware image of gutsy and you are off. Doesn't get simplier
[20:36] <adelie43> Wiredtape: the only mix and match is that you can run 32 and 64 bit VM's in 64 bit host environments
[20:36] <invit> R_en_GUtsy I have try and I cant lunch the game, i don't know if my configuration are bad or if 9dragon don t work with wine
[20:36] <R_en_GUtsy> muuddflap: any HP printer should do
[20:36] <adelie43> Wiredtape: you need to get ubuntu for i386
[20:36] <Wiredtape> R_en_GUtsy, thanks
[20:36] <invit> But I think It doesn t work
[20:36] <Wiredtape> adelie43, thanks
[20:37] <warlock_handler> hi guys
[20:37] <muuddflap> r_en ok man thanks alot
[20:37] <adelie43> Wiredtape: you want the 32 bit ubuntu if you have 32 bit windows
[20:37] <R_en_GUtsy> It may not work. www.winehq.org
[20:37] <warlock_handler> i am having some display problem on my ubuntu 7.10
[20:37] <invit> Thanks a lot
[20:37] <muuddflap> thanks talk to ya'll later
[20:37] <pelerophon0> hi all. i'd like to backup my crontab file, but i don't know where to find it. i edit it by running "crontab -e".
[20:37] <adelie43> ok, different question. has anyone been using the repositories today and had them be normal fast?
[20:37] <R_en_GUtsy> see the WineDB to see details
[20:37] <R_en_GUtsy> and add some if you find them ;)'
[20:38] <DamagePlan> hello
[20:38] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: /etc/crontab
[20:38] <warlock_handler> I have a screen resolution of 1400 x 1050 ... and it is suppose to be perfect for my 19" wide screen (LG says that)
[20:38] <R_en_GUtsy> anybody knows about WPA and aegis ? Is there any protocol one has to install? what the h.. is it?
[20:38] <warlock_handler> but my ubuntu stretches more than required
[20:38] <adelie43> I suspect my traffic is being manipulated, so I was going to use squid over socks vis ssh to see if it sped thngs up, but wanted to see if others were having problems too, first
[20:38] <pelerophon0> zionpsyfer, that's what i thought, but that file looks nothing like the one i edit myself
[20:38] <invit> Ok it s my config .... 9dragon is supposed to work with wine :'(
[20:39] <lz1gjd> hello, could anyone help me with making flash work with firefox and gutsy ?
[20:39] <moon> bon soir tous le monde
[20:39] <heartsblood> I just read that Transmission has been selected as the defualt Torrent client for hardy, is this true?
[20:39] <PriceChild> R_en_GUtsy, network manager will do it out of the box
[20:39] <PriceChild> !fr | moon
[20:39] <ubotu> moon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:39] <PriceChild> !hardy | heartsblood
[20:39] <ubotu> heartsblood: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:39] <R_en_GUtsy> invit hang on... It ends up working. See if wine doors supports it. If not drop the guy a line, and he may even make it work ;)
[20:39] <heartsblood> of for crying out loud ><
[20:39] <warlock_handler> can anyone here please help me with my display problem...
[20:39] <moon> merci bien a bientot peace et salute
[20:39] <usr13_> pelerophon0: Just write to another filename / directory.
[20:39] <warlock_handler> admin helpppp sos sos
[20:40] <warlock_handler> :D
[20:40] <invit> Ok thanks a lot :)
[20:40] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: Hmm, what's the command you are using to edit it?
[20:40] <StLemur> Anyone else, ideas why upgrading the kernel to 2.6.24 might cause my audio devices to vanish?
[20:40] <pepperjack> warlock_handler: what problem?
[20:40] <pelerophon0> zionpsyfer: "crontab -e". i don't edit it as root, btw
[20:40] <usr13_> pelerophon0: crontab -e      Ctrl-o
[20:40] <R_en_GUtsy> PriceChild: nm should do it, I know, but it seems that something is wrong. Are the card drivers supposed to support that specific part of the stack. It's a dlink DWL-650+  card
[20:41] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: thank you ... ok the problem is... i have a 1400 x 1050 resolution
[20:41] <xobius> warlock_handler, wha'ts is the problem?
[20:41] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: and my monitor is perfect for that
[20:41] <pelerophon0> usr13_: that's a good suggestion indeed, but i want to write a backup script, so i still need to know where the actual file is
[20:41] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: but my ubuntu stretches below that in height
[20:42] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: so i cant see the bottom of the screen
[20:42] <pepperjack> warlock_handler: does the screen move around if you move your mouse over to the far boarders?
[20:42] <pelerophon0> zionpsyfer: when i edit it with crontab -e, btw, it says the file is tmp/crontab.[randomjunk]/crontab
[20:42] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: nope i am not using compiz or any desktop manager/ animation software
[20:43] <pepperjack> warlock_handler: sure it isnt a monitor setup issue? often when i change drivers or res i need to adjust the geometry using monitor buttons
[20:43] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: Hmm, I'm trying it out on my system to see if I can find it.  Unfortunately I usually just edit /etc/crontab.  still looking =P
[20:43] <usr13_> warlock_handler: You simply need to find one that fits the screen.  Look at ratios suggest in the owner's manual and find one you like.
[20:44] <kaminix> Is there any way to set standard settings for htop?
[20:44] <warlock_handler> pepperjack: I did that... hence i know that this size is not fitting the monitor right.. whereas it should
[20:44] <kaminix> eg. to use text for all bar thingies and to use the Black Night colour scheme
[20:44] <Dandre> I am searching for a vnc viewer that can scale the screen so that it can fit in the viewer window. For instance, if the server has a display array of 1500x1000, and the viewer 800x600, I want to have the whole display in the viewer window
[20:44] <DamagePlan>  help
[20:44] <DamagePlan> PLease
[20:44] <warlock_handler> usr13_: as i mentioned earlier... this is the right ratio...
[20:45] <Gibbwake> can someone tell me how to get to the wifi panel that shows the wifi networks? it disappears from the upper right randomly sometimes
[20:45] <DamagePlan> When I log out my computer freezes and just stays on the desktop picture
[20:45] <Flare183> !ask | DamagePlan
[20:45] <ubotu> DamagePlan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:45] <usr13_> warlock_handler: If it is not displaying on the screen properly, then it clearly is NOT the right ratio.  So change it.
[20:45] <DamagePlan> Whats the problem
[20:45] <DamagePlan> thanks
[20:45] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: Got it /var/spool/cron/USERNAME
[20:46] <fiXXXerMet> Is it difficult to setup dual monitors in 7.10?
[20:46] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a GUI for it?
[20:46] <Flare183> !dualhead | fiXXXerMet
[20:46] <ubotu> fiXXXerMet: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[20:46] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: errr, /var/spool/cron/crontabs/USERNAME.   *need more coffee*
[20:47] <usr13_> zionpsyfer: pelerophon0 Why not just let the nano editor write a copy to the home directory?
[20:47] <Flare183> Gibbwake: by running the networkmanager i think
[20:47] <Gibbwake> weird. ok
[20:47] <Odd-rationale> What's the differnce between dvorak and dvorak-classic?
[20:47] <pelerophon0> zionpsyfer: thanks! how did you find it?
[20:48] <zionpsyfer> usr13_:  No idea.  As I've said, my usual method is just editing /etc/crontab.
[20:48] <emma_> hallo
[20:48] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: the man page :P
[20:48] <DamagePlan> PLease can I have help, Whenever I log out or restart the x sever my computer is just left on the desktop picture. I then have to switch off my computer by the wall wich is not healthy. PLease can you help me, thanks :)
[20:48] <warlock_handler> usr13_: where can i find the display config file
[20:48] <Gibbwake> I wish I could tell it to stop auto connecting to some neighbors wifi. It just hangs up on it, then goes unresponsive when it cant connect
[20:48] <pelerophon0> usr13_: i'm writing a backup script
[20:48] <pelerophon0> usr13_: and, apart from that, it makes me nervous that crontab is writing to files i can't locate :)
[20:49] <oem__> !flashissues
[20:49] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:49] <pelerophon0> zionpsyfer: RTFM, eh? well, thanks! :)
[20:49] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: Heh, indeed.  when all else fails... :)  Glad I could help and learn something at the same time.
[20:49] <Flare183> DamagePlan: press alt+f1 to login to the termnial then type in sudo shutdown -P now
[20:49] <Gibbwake> how do I restart the nm applet that controls wifi? mine keeps hanging
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: most of ti depends on what brand card you have, Nvidia was pretty easy for me.
[20:50] <Odd-rationale> nv I got the answer.
[20:50] <usr13_> pelerophon0: But the editor tells you exactly where it is writing to.  [Ctrl-o]
[20:50]  * FiveSheetsOfAcid is away: EVE http://www.eve-online.de
[20:50] <Flare183> !away | FiveSheetsOfAcid
[20:50] <ubotu> FiveSheetsOfAcid: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[20:50] <Flare183> !away > FiveSheetsOfAcid
[20:50] <lz1gjd> could you help me fix my problem with firefox and flash . i tried with automatix, installing it from inside firefox but didnt wrk
[20:51] <usr13_> pelerophon0: But the editor tells you exactly where it is writing to.  [Ctrl-o]  And at that point, you can just tell it to write a copy to your /home/username directory and there you have a backup.
[20:51] <Flare183> lz1gjd: flash is broken the installer is anyway
[20:51] <pelerophon0> usr13_: no, it doesn't. it's writing to a tmp file. presumably because i'm not on a superuser account and can't access the stuff under /var/spool/cron/crontabs directly.
[20:51] <lz1gjd> Flare183: any fix ?
[20:51] <Flare183> !flashissues > lz1gjd
[20:52] <HymnToLife> lz1gjd: download the archive, extract, copy the .so file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, you're ther
[20:52] <lz1gjd> i see
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> lz1gjd: I would suggest you restore from backup or reinstall...
[20:52] <lz1gjd> thanxxxx
[20:52] <phaedral> lsusb just hangs; what to do?
[20:52] <lz1gjd> reinstall what ???
[20:52] <lz1gjd> you mean flash package i hope
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> lz1gjd: Ubuntu.. once you try automatix.. it is a royal pain to get things right
[20:52] <[nrx]> hi folks. I've just installed restricted drivers for my ati radeon on ubuntu. Problem is, i cant find a place to increase the colour depth. Can someone help me please. (it's actually mythbuntu)
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[20:53] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[20:53] <Flare183> !flash | lz1gjd
[20:53] <ubotu> lz1gjd: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[20:53] <Flare183> see?
[20:53] <adub_> is there any way to have xtightvncviewer fill my entire screen or give me a larger screen???
[20:53] <lz1gjd> well if I only knew the repos where i could find all multimedia packages i needed ...
[20:53] <usr13_> pelerophon0: Why does it make you nervious?  It just does a tempory sudo file, but it works anyway, right?  So doesn't really matter. Right?
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[20:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:54] <Gibbwake> is there a default root password for ubuntu?
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[20:54] <Flare183> !root | Gibbwake
[20:54] <jpatrick> !root > Gibbwake
[20:54] <ubotu> Gibbwake: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:54] <jpatrick> !sudo > Gibbwake
[20:54] <HymnToLife> technically, there _us_ one
[20:54] <Flare183> haha
[20:54] <HymnToLife> it's just one you can never get right ;)
[20:54] <HymnToLife> is*
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[20:54] <Gibbwake> is that something unique to ubuntu?
[20:54] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[20:55] <ruben-> I installed ubuntu, did not have to enter a root password, and the user created by the install doesn't have access to sudo, how can I fix this?
[20:55] <[nrx]> how do i increase the colour depth, when i'm using restricted drivers?
[20:55] <Rufus_> how do I install a gtk theme?
[20:55] <deme> Hey guys, my sound card isn't being recognized by ubuntu, any pages or guides that would help me?
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ruben-: the user created during the install does have sudo access.
[20:55] <HymnToLife> Rufus_: copy into /usr/share/themes
[20:55] <Rufus_> thanks
[20:55] <Cyrus25801> i want to instal Internet explorer on wine so that I can run active-x but where do i download it.can't use MS because you download a preinstaller and that doesn't work
[20:55] <jeffMASTERflex> Rufus_: you can also install them directly from the Appearance properties
[20:55] <DamagePlan> SHould it now work?
[20:55] <ruben-> Jack_Sparrow: It says "ruben is not in sudoers file."
[20:55] <DamagePlan> whoops
[20:55] <usr13_> pelerophon0: If you would like to know more about how crontab works, see:  man crontab
[20:55] <zionpsyfer> !sound > deme
[20:56] <r3tex> I've installed some packages from Hardy but decided that they weren't good, how can I roll back to only 7.10 packages?
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: Ask in #Winehq... they have ways of making that work
[20:56] <soulrider> hey everyone
[20:56] <soulrider> check out what i made, i posted it on the foums, pics included :P http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4244426#post4244426
[20:56] <zLoSteR> i guys hi .. i want to update my compiz-fusion 0.5.2 to 0.6.0 ... can someone can help me
[20:56] <DRebellion> r3tex: i would try removing the hardy sources
 Should it now work?
[20:56] <deme> zionpsyfer: Yes, I have no sound, I have no idea why you're using boolean algebra
[20:56] <Zambezi> How tricky is it to install grub separatley?
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ruben-: Never seen a fresh install..(hard drive not some vm thingy) not have sudo access
[20:57] <HymnToLife> deme: see your PM's ;)
[20:57] <HymnToLife> you got one from ubotu
[20:57] <deme> Oh, gotcha O.o
[20:57] <[nrx]> i've installed mythbuntu. enabled the restrcited drivers for my ati radeon. The colour depth isn't there though - can anyone tell me how i increase it?
[20:57] <helloyo> i have a bandwidth limit with my ISP, what is the best way to keep track of my usage?
[20:57] <ruben-> Jack_Sparrow: it's a fresh install, external computer..
[20:57] <Hi> HI :)
[20:57] <usr13_> pelerophon0: Or:  man 5 crontab
[20:57] <adub_> does anyone in here run xtight vncviewer
[20:57] <Flare183> DamagePlan: i don't know all that command does is shut the computer down
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> zLoSteR: #Compix for that answer
[20:57] <Flare183> !hi | hi
[20:57] <ubotu> hi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> #Compiz
[20:57] <Flare183> !compiz zLoSteR
[20:57] <ruben-> Jack_Sparrow: how can I fix that?
[20:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz zloster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:57] <Flare183> !compiz | zLoSteR
[20:57] <ubotu> zLoSteR: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:58] <pelerophon0> usr13_: no offense, but my problem has been solved a long time ago, and i do know how to read the man page.
[20:58] <_Drax> Can someone give me some suggestions on what to use the ubuntu server for except webserver and mysql and game servers, I feel like doing something over here.. :)
[20:58] <Justin125> !ndiswrapper
[20:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:58] <Hi> Hey I got a Vaio notebook & i wanna install Ubuntu on it
[20:58] <Flare183> _Drax: goto #ubuntu-server i think
[20:58] <jeffMASTERflex> _Drax: how bout turning it into a music jukebox you can access from anywhere
[20:58] <HymnToLife> _Drax: seed the Ubuntu images on bittorrent
[20:58] <zLoSteR> well in compiz-fusion they told me that all i need is to update
[20:58] <zLoSteR> my compiz packages
[20:59] <usr13_> pelerophon0: Just type:  man 5 crontab   and use spacebar to page down or PageUp and PageDown  etc.
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ruben-: No idea.. Is there more than one user on the system?
[20:59] <pelerophon0> usr13_: i find it curious that you give me lots of suggestions that do not apply to my problem, or are plain incorrect, and thereafter advise me to read the man page when i question them.
[20:59] <zLoSteR> my package-tree
[20:59] <ruben-> Jack_Sparrow: no..
[20:59] <_Drax> jeffMASTERflex, that sounds like fun!
[20:59] <Cyrus25801> Jack_Sparrow: IE$Linux not supported at wineHQ
[20:59] <zLoSteR> and i don't know how to do this
[20:59] <HymnToLife> _Drax: also, if you have a static IP, maybe you could consider joining the NTP pool
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: Yes, I am aware of that...
[20:59] <_Drax> I have a static ip, whats the NTP pool?
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: I never suggested using that.. I am very against using it
[20:59] <HymnToLife> http://www.pool.ntp.org
[21:00] <HymnToLife> !ntp
[21:00] <Cyrus25801> Jack_Sparrow: so why did you send me there then
[21:00] <Hi> so any special care tobe taken abt it?
[21:00] <ubotu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[21:00] <usr13_> pelerophon0: Your original question was how to create a backup of the crontab file, and I told you the easiest most effecient method to do that.
[21:00] <DRebellion> ruben-: you could try booting off the livecd, mounting the hard drive, chrooting to it, and editing the sudoers file.
[21:00] <warlock_handler> usr13_: ok got fixed thnx for the help
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: To get help with your problem and IE.. without using that script
[21:00] <Hi> Hey I got a Vaio notebook & i wanna install Ubuntu on it
[21:00] <ruben-> DRebellion: trying that now..
[21:00] <Hi> Hey I got a Vaio notebook & i wanna install Ubuntu on it
[21:00] <Hi> so any special care tobe taken abt it?
[21:00] <zionpsyfer> usr13_:  He just wanted to know the default location it is saved to.
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > Hi
[21:01] <Hi> what?
[21:01] <Cyrus25801> Jack_Sparrow: so ie4linux is a script
[21:01] <Flare183> !install > Hi
[21:01] <usr13_> zionpsyfer: But he asked specifically how to make a backup file of it.
[21:01] <r3tex> DRebellion: that doesn't work since the installed packages are newer
[21:01] <_Drax> HymnToLife, would it take much bandwidth, that NTP ? does it send data every minute?
[21:01] <[nrx]> !alsamixer
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <[nrx]> !mixer
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <dan__> Someone help a sec?
[21:01] <Flare183> !alsa
[21:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:01] <HymnToLife> _Drax: no, it takes very little bandwidth
[21:01] <DRebellion> ruben-: make sure you use 'visudo' to edit the sudoers file.
[21:01] <dan__> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[21:01] <dan__> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[21:01] <dan__> So, check this please and use another prefix!.
[21:01] <HymnToLife> the requests are really small, it's basically just telling the time it is
[21:01] <[nrx]> i can't get the mixer up, that's the problem :/
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: Yes, and it makes a mess of things... for more info on it, ask in #Winehq it is OT in here.
[21:02] <dan__> I'm installing Kmuddy
[21:02] <Flare183> !enter | dan__ (sorry, had to do it)
[21:02] <ubotu> dan__ (sorry, had to do it): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:02] <[nrx]> what's the command for the alsa mixer in console? i've forgotten
[21:02] <_Drax> HymnToLife, it does sound like fun.. do you have more suggestions where you can be of usage like joining the NTP pool..?
[21:02] <adub_> does anyone in here run xtight vncviewer
[21:02] <zionpsyfer> usr13_:  Not unless I misread his question of " i'd like to backup my crontab file, but i don't know where to find it".  He sounds like he's good to go on backing things up.  He just needed the path.
[21:02] <L3ttuc3> [nrx] amixer?
[21:03] <dan__> huh? I pasted the error message
[21:03] <jeffMASTERflex> !pastebin | dan__
[21:03] <ubotu> dan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:03] <L3ttuc3> [nrx] try amixer.
[21:03] <LjL> mc44: i'm not interested in what you are saying
[21:04] <pelerophon0> usr13_: zionpsyfer is entirely correct. i'm sure you're just trying to be helpful, but what is it that you think will be accomplish from continuing this conversation?
[21:04] <riot__> er irc.g00ns.net
[21:04] <Dexterex> hello! a read a lot of things abaut a solution for cpu 100% with flash anybody has an advice for that?
[21:04] <sajes> How do I build a .deb package from a source package?
[21:04] <dan__> so, you're going to just keep telling me how I'm talking in the IRC wrong, or is someone going to offer me some assistance?
[21:04] <HymnToLife> !checkinstall | sajes
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> hey people. just doing some hardware tests. when i plug in some headphones/speakers in the headphone plugin sound still comes out of the speakers on the computer.
[21:05] <jeffMASTERflex> sajes: debhelper is a series of scripts that will help you build nice deb packages. not the bastardized versions produced by checkinstall
[21:05] <Gibbwake> how do you get to the command line?
[21:05] <sajes> jeffMASTERflex: thanks.
[21:05] <Dexterex> how do you get to the command line?????
[21:05] <ubotu> sajes: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> gibbwake: applications, accessories, terminal
[21:05] <Gibbwake> Dexterex: yeah im a newb
[21:06] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[21:06] <Gibbwake> thanks tumbleweed05
[21:06] <Dexterex> lol
[21:06] <ruben-> DRebellion: it says invalid argument with mount :s
[21:06] <tumbleweed05> so any help. when i want headphones plugged in i don't want sound coming out of this thing.
[21:06] <Gibbwake> I have ubuntu running on 128 megs of ram. its awful. keeps locking up
[21:06] <pelerophon0> i'm off. zionpsyfer, thanks again for your help.
[21:06] <tumbleweed05> gibbwake: i'm sorry.
[21:06] <jeffMASTERflex> Gibbwake: you might want to try xubuntu
[21:06] <tumbleweed05> you should upgrade or use like xubuntu or something.
[21:06] <Gibbwake> whats xubuntu?
[21:07] <jeffMASTERflex> !xubuntu | Gibbwake
[21:07] <zionpsyfer> pelerophon0: Np, have a good one!
[21:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Gibbwake: That isnt much ram to work with
[21:07] <ubotu> Gibbwake: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[21:07] <Gibbwake> does it have wifi support?
[21:07] <DRebellion> ruben-: what was the command you gave?
[21:07] <tumbleweed05> gibbwake: yes it does.
[21:07] <ruben-> DRebellion: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hdd
[21:07] <Dexterex> Gibbwake:  read!!!!!
[21:07] <Parsec300> Gibbwake, it is a lot lighter than the other versions.
[21:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Gibbwake: IS it also using shared ram for your video ?
[21:07] <sewmyheadon> Quick question: can I remove 32 bit ubuntu, keeping my home directory partition intact and install 64 bit in its place and mount the home partition without issues?
[21:08] <Dexterex> yes sewmyheadon
[21:08] <Gibbwake> Jack_Sparrow: oh god. I think so
[21:08] <tumbleweed05> hmmm.
[21:08] <DRebellion> ruben-: does /dev/hda1 exist?
[21:08] <sewmyheadon> Thank you!
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Gibbwake: So you dont even have a clean 128
[21:08] <flatline-kun> Has anyone here ever used CoovaChilli?
[21:08] <ruben-> DRebellion: I presume.. fdisk isn't a known command..
[21:08] <Gibbwake> Jack_Sparrow, yeah lemme turn off that feature
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Gibbwake: Minimizing shared will help
[21:08] <Dexterex> no flatline-kun
[21:08] <dan__> k, lets see if this works better. I'm getting this error when installing Kmuddy onto Gutsy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54248/
[21:09] <Gibbwake> any other things I can do to save memory before I get xbuntu?
[21:09] <DRebellion> ruben-: :/
[21:09] <ruben-> DRebellion: I'm reinstalling..
[21:09] <Dexterex> dan__ look for kde-dev packages
[21:09] <ruben-> nice first experience with ubuntu :p
[21:09] <white_eagle_> Gibbwake, just get xubuntu ;)
[21:09] <DRebellion> ruben-: yeh, i have no idea why mount would complain about those arguments
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Gibbwake: NOt really... You will most likely end up with X as it is lighter..
[21:10] <ruben-> I'll give it another shot..
[21:10] <DRebellion> ruben-: verify both /dev/hda1 and /mnt/hdd exit
[21:10] <DRebellion> ruben-: verify both /dev/hda1 and /mnt/hdd exist
[21:10] <tumbleweed05> nice. the media card reader works.
[21:10] <jeffMASTERflex> dan__: he's right. you need to install the kde dev packages to compile kde programs
[21:10] <fiXXXerMet> I'm having issues with printing.  When I open up the printer configurator and do a test page, everything is OK.  When I print from firefox, margins are all wrong and text runs off the side of the page?
[21:10] <Cyrus25801> is there no way of running active-x on ubuntu without installing Internet explorer
[21:10] <Dexterex> Gibbwake:  use google!!! there are a lot of distro for that requirement
[21:10] <simion314_> hi, what program for burning CD do you suggest to use? i want something to a good interface
[21:10] <dan__> look for them where? I installed KDE, and it gave me the same error when I was in the KDE session
[21:10] <tumbleweed05> ethernet, fn keys, media card reader, wireless, it all works.
[21:11] <tumbleweed05> nice.
[21:11] <tumbleweed05> sound too.
[21:11] <nemilar> simon360: k3b seems to be everyone's favorite
[21:11] <jeffMASTERflex> simion314_: brasero has a nice simple interface. gnomebaker and k3b are also available
[21:11] <sophs87> k3b?
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Did yo also install build essentials
[21:11] <Dexterex> simion314_:  k3b look it in apt
[21:11] <tumbleweed05> well i'm gonna keep playing around.
[21:11] <nemilar> Brasero is the new default in 8.04 =)
[21:11] <sophs87> Erm, or nero linux but that you would have to pay for or break the law
[21:11] <tumbleweed05> later people.
[21:11] <dan__> I clicked on KDE in the SPM
[21:11] <pepperjack> k3b is better than nero anyway imo
[21:12] <Parsec300> simion314_, yeah, but to enable direct burning music CD from MP3, you need to install additional packages
[21:12] <sophs87> tbh i've never tried k3b :(
[21:12] <Dexterex> k3b rocks!
[21:12] <jeffMASTERflex> pepperjack: i agree, but k3b is ugly as hell IMO. nero is too. i like brasero even if it's not as reliable as k3b
[21:12] <sophs87> downloading it now :)
[21:12] <Dexterex> didt use brasero
[21:13] <Dexterex> i'll test it
[21:13] <linuxNoob> wahh
[21:13] <linuxNoob> hello people
[21:13] <linuxNoob> i need help
[21:13] <usr13_> Parsec300: One cannot directly burn a music CD from mp3s, they need to be converted back to .wav files first.
[21:13] <linuxNoob> dpkg -_-"""
[21:13] <Dexterex> shot!
[21:13] <Gibbwake> is there a way to run scandisk for software errors on the drive due to forced shutdowns?
[21:13] <jeffMASTERflex> !enter | linuxNoob
[21:13] <ubotu> linuxNoob: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:13] <linuxNoob> ?
[21:13] <DRebellion> Gibbwake: fsck
[21:14] <Dexterex> Gibbwake: use google please!!
[21:14] <sophs87> Gibbwake: if it's an ntfs partition then you'll need to boot into windows
[21:14] <linuxNoob> i got the available file from the live cd on my flash drive and i cant copy it to my var/lib/dpkg folder it says i dont have permission
[21:14] <nemilar> Brasero actually looks really nice
[21:15] <DRebellion> Dexterex: there is no need to direct Gibbwake to google. that completely defeats the point of this interactive help.
[21:15] <neverblue> linuxNoob, then change the permissions, man chown
[21:15] <sophs87> linuxNoob: sudo cp ?
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxNoob: gksudo nautilus
[21:15] <linuxNoob> err how u change it
[21:15] <_Drax> Is it normal that ubuntu caches about 170MB of 256MB ram.. ??
[21:15] <Dexterex> yap but his questions are in google too there are a lot of people asking
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxNoob: But please exit that asap as it is dangerous to keep using it all the time
[21:15] <tass1412> how to create an iso from a cd? easiest way to go? ^^
[21:15] <_Drax> and leaves about 10MB memfree..
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tass1412: dd command
[21:15] <linuxNoob> wgats gksudo nautilus?
[21:15] <tass1412> Jack_Sparrow: that easy? ^^
[21:15] <dan__> I have the KDE devel package installed
[21:16] <jeffMASTERflex> tass1412: gnomebaker,k3b and brasero all let you do that
[21:16] <Decinoge> soooo.. just for general checking
[21:16] <Parsec300> usr13, why not? I've read that if you install the additional packages, you can with K3B.
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tass1412: I can give you the full command in a sec
[21:16] <linuxNoob> whats is tha?
[21:16] <linuxNoob> i cant even install anything cuz it cant find the available file in dpkg
[21:16] <Decinoge> does anyone in here is kinda or somewhat interested in independent game developing?
[21:16] <Jason__> Evening all
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> tass1412: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/YourUserName/Desktop/file.iso bs=4k
[21:17] <tass1412> Jack_Sparrow: bs doesn't matter?
[21:17] <sybariten> is there any reason not to choose Ubuntu 8.04 when doing a new server install?
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> tass1412: bigger blocks make it faster
[21:17] <Nx> any amd64 users got mixx to run?
[21:17] <sophs87> LinuxN00b: ok heres what you've gotta do. Fire up a terminal, then type gksudo nautilus
[21:17] <tass1412> Jack_Sparrow: kay, thx
[21:17] <neverblue> linuxNoob, man is a terminal command which give you information about a specific command, in this case: man chown
[21:17] <dan__> anyone?
[21:17] <sybariten> i didnt know 8 was out, i was gonna install 7.10, but then i saw a DL link for 8.04
[21:17] <DRebellion> sybariten: 8.04 is pre-beta
[21:17] <jeffMASTERflex> sybariten: yes, it's alpha software. alpha can go boom any time
[21:17] <Decinoge> no one, fine
[21:17] <neverblue> !anyone | dan_
[21:17] <ubotu> dan_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:17] <nemilar> sybariten: don't install 8.04... bad things will happen
[21:17] <sybariten> DRebellion, jeffMASTERflex : oh, didnt know it was at such a young stage. thanks!
[21:17] <nemilar> sybariten: it's not even in beta yet
[21:18] <sybariten> nemilar: okay
[21:18] <nemilar> 8.04 = 2008, month 4 is the release (scheduled for the 24th of March)
[21:18] <linuxNoob> gksudo nautlius work
[21:18] <linuxNoob> :D
[21:18] <dan__> where do I get the KDE build essentials package?
[21:18] <linuxNoob> thx yo
[21:18] <Nx> I installed it from synaptic and add/remove
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[21:18] <Dexterex>  don't install 8.04... bad things will happen! jajaj
[21:18] <Nx> I can (occacsionally) get as far as the first directory selection but then it crashes
[21:19] <Dexterex> apt-get dan__
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[21:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[21:20] <jeffMASTERflex> dan__: first you install the regular "build-essential" package, then you install the necessary kde dev libraries needed for your program
[21:20] <steveire> Hey. I'm not sure I can play avi files, and I can't find any on the net. Someone got a link to one?
[21:20] <Parsec300> usr13, libk3b2-mp3 is the package you need to install and libk3b with apt-get then you should be able to directly burn musicCD from MP3
[21:20] <sophs87> Does anyone have a problem in matlab and compiz? everything is blank when i fire it up.
[21:20] <dan__> how do I find out which packages I need?
[21:21] <jeffMASTERflex> sophs87:  i think matlab is swing based. if it is, it will have issues with compiz
[21:21] <neverblue> dan_, you can always do a search
[21:21] <usr13_> dan__: What are you trying to do?
[21:21] <sophs87> drat :(
[21:21] <neverblue> sophs87, run it in a terminal, and see if you get any output telling you abour errors ?
[21:21] <dan__> I'm trying to install Kmuddy
[21:21] <steveire> Hmmm, seems I didn't have ffmpeg. Thought I did.
[21:21] <nemilar> Linux programs have such great names
[21:22] <jeffMASTERflex> nemilar: sarcasm i hope...
[21:22] <Nx> anyone?
[21:22] <jack-desktop> does anyone know bash and can help me?
[21:22] <neverblue> !anyone > Nx
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Since you are trying to compile a KDE app, it would seem to make sense that you should ask for help in Kubuntu...(even though you want to run it under gnome)
[21:23] <neverblue> jack-desktop, there is a #bash channel
[21:23] <nemilar> jeffMASTERflex: haha
[21:23] <StrangeCharm> i'm having trouble hibernating a fujitsu laptop - when i click hibernate from the power menu, it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor, and i can't do anything. can i remedy this?
[21:23] <jeffMASTERflex> Nx: i've used mixx before but never on amd64. 64 bit is useless unless you have 4GB of ram and over. i stick with 32 bit and mixx runs without issues
[21:23] <dan__> ok, thanks
[21:23] <Equ1n0x_> Aew
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm: IS that ati video?  I saw something about hibernate on those
[21:23] <sophs87> jack-desktop: what would you like help with?
[21:24] <Nx> thanks
[21:24] <Nx> I'm really new, do I have to download the 32bit bins?
[21:24] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: no, i'm using an intel gpu with the intel modsetting driver
[21:24] <neverblue> Nx, that depends, but usually yes
[21:24] <xxxBooGerxxx> what is the comand to format a second hard drive?
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm: k, different issue..
[21:25] <usr13_> dan__: http://www.kmuddy.com/files/debian/kmuddy_0.8-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
[21:25] <neverblue> xxxBooGerxxx, gparted will assist with that, and more
[21:25] <Nx> whats the path of minimum download?(56k)?
[21:25] <Kossilar> I'm having trouble with my videocard. I've installed the NVIDIA drivers, but I have to reinstall them every time I restart my computer in order to be able to use my system.
[21:25] <jeffMASTERflex> jack-desktop: if you want to become a bash #1 stunna, i recommend checking this page out: http://linuxcommand.org/
[21:25] <Jack_Sparrow> xxxBooGerxxx: YOu can use gparted or cli
[21:25] <Nx> I just installed it synoptic
[21:25] <b4l74z4r> i understand that you are automatically root for 5 minutes after you have typed the password, doesn't that represent a security risk?
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: the issue's not the driver, or you think there's a different issue with this driver
[21:25] <jack-desktop> jeffMASTERflex, i don't want to learn bash, i want to understand what this script is doing, because i think it's wrong.
[21:25] <xxxBooGerxxx> neverblue gparted isn't working for me
[21:25] <neverblue> Nx, please keep questions/posts to a single line
[21:25] <DRebellion> b4l74z4r: you are only root if you type sudo
[21:25] <dan__> it's actually the newer beta version of Kmuddy that I'm trying to install
[21:25] <neverblue> xxxBooGerxxx, errors?
[21:25] <usr13_> dan__: That may be older version... so disregard
[21:26] <pepperjack> Kossilar: i think there may be something with linux-restricted-modules and nvidia module that does that i havent messed with it in a long time though so not sure if that is a bug you are seeing
[21:26] <xxxBooGerxxx> yeah
[21:26] <jeffMASTERflex> jack-desktop: so you want other people to confirm that it's worng instead of confirming it yourself? what about teaching a man to fish?
[21:26] <jack-desktop> jeffMASTERflex, i don't fish.
[21:26] <freyyr> Kossilar: are you root?
[21:26] <jeffMASTERflex> jack-desktop: well then you might not eat today
[21:27] <Jack_Sparrow> StrangeCharm: What I saw was specific for Ati
[21:27] <xxxBooGerxxx> neverblue somthing about label error
[21:27] <jack-desktop> jeffMASTERflex, i know many programming languages (vbs, vb6, java, c++, php), i could probably pick up on bash in a second or two but i'd rather just ask someone else
[21:27] <StrangeCharm> Jack_Sparrow: thanks anyway
[21:27] <neverblue> xxxBooGerxxx, put it on pastebin please
[21:27] <jeffMASTERflex> !pastebin | jack-desktop
[21:27] <ubotu> jack-desktop: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:27] <neverblue> !pastebin | xxxBooGerxxx
[21:27] <ubotu> xxxBooGerxxx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:27] <RancidLM> i have a laptop i wanna install ubuntu on the only thing is the cdrom is broken on it and it doesn't support USB boot.. is there a way to do a internet install with floppydisk boot or something?
[21:27] <jeffMASTERflex> jack-desktop: then go ahead and paste it, maybe someone might help
[21:28] <jughead> which logfiles should I check to see why my fileserver keeps losing its connection?  There's no monitor and I hate having to do a hard reset every time it stops working
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> when i do <control> + r ... i expect it to search *all* commands ever entered on any terminal instance.  right now, it (1) only seems to search terminal history for the current terminal, and (2) has a limited search back history... how can i fix both of these issues?
[21:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > RancidLM
[21:28] <void^> arooni-mobile: use zsh
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> void^, whats that
[21:29] <arooni-mobile> void^, is that an alternative to bash?
[21:29] <jeffMASTERflex> arooni-mobile: yessir
[21:29] <arooni-mobile> oh noes
[21:29] <arooni-mobile> but i like bash
[21:29] <void^> bash doesn't support searching the history of other instances afaik
[21:29] <jeffMASTERflex> arooni-mobile: it's almost exactly like bash but with a few more features among other things. you might like it
[21:29] <usr13_> jughead: You might just look at the network configuration for some sort of error or unorthox setting.
[21:29] <xxxBooGerxxx> neverblue it kind of hard for me right now I'm not at the machine
[21:30] <arooni-mobile> jeffMASTERflex, but i already have a .bashrc file; and know the basics of how that works
[21:30] <Jagatuba> Okay I've searched the forums, but nothing seems to help. I've found threads discussing similar problems, but not exactly the same. My problem is when I insert my thumb drive into the usb port it won't mount. It used to but all of the sudden in the last week none of the drives I have will mount. They do contain data, and I can access them in Windows, so I know that there is nothing wrong with the drives themselves. I get an error perta
[21:30] <usr13_> jughead: Is it static or dhcp?  (If dhcp, change to static)
[21:30] <dan__> I have a Radeon 9250 video card, that works in windows, but doesn't work in Gutsy
[21:30] <dan__> has anyone tackled this problem before?
[21:30] <jeffMASTERflex> arooni-mobile: then don't use zsh and maybe someone can help you with your problem hopefully
[21:31] <jughead> usr13, it's a static IP address that's outside the range of the DHCP addresses for the router
[21:31] <usr13_> dan__:  ATI cards are a bit of a problem for us.
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: fyi flgrx will NOT work with that card.. just in case you  installed that
[21:31] <arooni-mobile> jeffMASTERflex, do you use it?
[21:31] <arooni-mobile> what do you like bout it
[21:31] <dan__> I did install it. it didn't work.
[21:31] <Jagatuba> has anyone else had this problem?
[21:31] <usr13_> jughead: Good....
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: It is NOT supposet to work with that card...
[21:31] <Fernando> exit
[21:32] <Syko> ATI is worthless in Linux T_T
[21:32] <dan__> any idea how to get it to work? >Jack_Sparrow
[21:32] <jeffMASTERflex> arooni-mobile: i don't use it. I don't need the features it provides.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_shells
[21:32] <kyleBAKED> how can i check the exact name of the wifi driver i have installed? i need it for wpa_supplicant
[21:32] <usr13_> jughead:  How is it loosing connection?  Could it be a hardware problem?  Maybe the NIC?
[21:32] <jughead> usr13, it will work (I can ssh, mount the remote shares, etc) for a little while then it stops working - everything is on but the connection is lost
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: YOu must remove flgrx  and in most cases reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[21:33] <DRebellion> kyleBAKED: lsmod
[21:33] <usr13_> jughead: Is there an indicator light on the NIC, that is lit when connected?  And does it go out as well?
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: THe card works fine.. just NOT with fglrx
[21:33] <nemilar> jughead: are you having the problem that your ssh connection gets terminated after a certain period of time?  I didn't see your original question.
[21:33] <usr13_> jughead: What does ifconfig say when it is disconnected?
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: The ati docs are very specific about that.
[21:33] <jughead> usr13, it stays green; if I unplug it it blinks yellow then goes back go green still no response
[21:33] <DragonOS> Hi , I having problems with the gnome clock applets, I can't get to show 12 hour clock, even if I add my custom strftime, I know its a locale problem but how can I fix this
[21:34] <Jagatuba> Does anybody know why my usb drive will not mount?
[21:34] <Syko> bad partition?
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Jagatuba: have you tried to mount them manually
[21:34] <nemilar> DragonOS: it's set to Clock Type: 12 Hour?
[21:34] <jughead> usr13, I can't run the ifconfig command; there's no monitor hooked up to is
[21:34] <DRebellion> Jagatuba: what is the error message?
[21:34] <proprietarysucks> jughead: ssh in and run it
[21:34] <neverblue> jughead, ssh in ?
[21:34] <sophs87> Jugatube have a look at the fdisk -l
[21:34] <wyseur> ellow, I can't seem to mount my firewire HD, anybody has a clue
[21:35] <Jagatuba> yeah they will but thats a big pain in the rear they used to mount automaticallly
[21:35] <dan__> how do I uninstall the fglrx? > Jack_sparrow
[21:35] <jughead> that's the issue I'm having projektdotnet / neverblue  -  after soe random amount of time I can't ssh in - no route to host is the error.
[21:35] <wyseur> I have to know where I can find my firewire disk
[21:35] <sophs87> Jugatuba: Then sort out ur fstab
[21:35] <Jagatuba> I've searched the forums, but nothing seems to help. I've found threads discussing similar problems, but not exactly the same. My problem is when I insert my thumb drive into the usb port it won't mount. It used to but all of the sudden in the last week none of the drives I have will mount. They do contain data, and I can access them in Windows, so I know that there is nothing wrong with the drives themselves. I get an error pertaining
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: USe synaptic to completely remove fglrx and install the other
[21:35] <usr13_> jughead: How do you get it to re-connect?
[21:36] <dan__> fglrx isn't in the package manager
[21:36] <usr13_> jughead: Do you have Xserver running on that machine?
[21:36] <jughead> usr13, I have to do a hard reset
[21:36] <neverblue> jughead, wired or wireless ?
[21:36] <Spee_Der> Good afternoon folks. Home early for a change....  Hope all are well....
[21:36] <Nx> nautilus randomly crashes on me, everything else works fine but from gnome the icons are gone and nautilus refuses to run
[21:36] <jughead> usr13, yes - I also use NX to connect to remote desktop
[21:36] <jeffMASTERflex> dan__: yes, it is
[21:36] <jughead> neverblue, it's a wired connection
[21:37] <usr13_> jughead: Get rid of the Xserver for one thing.
[21:37] <mcquaid> does any other desktop capture util besides recordmydesktop play nice with compiz?  the theora format is giving me issues with other programs
[21:37] <Jagatuba> how do I go about sorting out my fstab
[21:37] <DamagePlan> PLease can someone tell me the default font and style for a gnome desktop
[21:37] <dan__> I might have already uninstalled it
[21:37] <usr13_> jughead: ... because you sure don't need X
[21:37] <Jagatuba> sorry noob here
[21:37] <neverblue> Jagatuba, sorting out ?
[21:37] <jeffMASTERflex> dan__: it's xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:37] <neverblue> !enter | Jagatuba
[21:37] <ubotu> Jagatuba: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:37] <usr13_> jughead: Is it a certain amount of time?
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Sorry, Im laggin
[21:38] <jughead> usr13, yesterday it was less than one hour; before that maybe 2-3 hours
[21:38] <moon> bonsoir tous le monde
[21:38] <jeffMASTERflex> !fr | moon
[21:38] <ubotu> moon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:39] <neverblue> bonjour moon :)
[21:39] <Jagatuba> sophs87 what do you mean: Then sort out ur fstab
[21:39] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: The heinlein server is going ok (if you're in the US)
[21:39] <Cpudan80> The other ones were misbehaving fore me
[21:39] <usr13_> jughead: Could it be some sort of sleep mode induced by the bios?
[21:39] <dan__> how do I direct my statements to someone like you're doing?
[21:39] <nemilar> DamagePlan: system - preferences - appearance... it's in there
[21:39] <DRebellion> !tab | dan__
[21:39] <ubotu> dan__: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[21:39] <barfender> I am getting 'no signal' from my monitor. This happens after 30min of activity in console mode and in xfce with fglrx loaded.
[21:40] <moon> bonjour neverblue
[21:40] <Cpudan80> dan__: include the persons name at the front, hit tab for most clients
[21:40] <jughead> usr13, I don't think so - I have not messed with the BIOS and it was working just fine (on all the time) until about a week ago
[21:40] <fiXXXerMet> A test print page comes out fine, but printing from firefox messes up the margins...  Text runs off of the side of the page?  I have the correct drivers installed and this happens for two different printer models.
[21:40] <jeffMASTERflex> dan__: type the first couple of letters then press tab
[21:40] <Cyrus25801> I have installed internet explorer 6 on wine but when i run it all i get is a blank white block
[21:40] <dan__> I see
[21:40] <DRebellion> Cyrus25801: this is not an ubuntu issue. go ask microsoft.
[21:40] <neverblue> tab == autocompletion
[21:40] <Drew> can i interupt?
[21:40] <usr13_> jughead: Still think it's some sort of hardware issue, but first off, I would uninstall all un-necessary software.
[21:41] <barfender> I dont understand what could be causing the problem. This never occured when i was using feisty
[21:41] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, flgrx is uninstalled
[21:41] <palomer> hello
[21:41] <palomer> I'm trying to install mint
[21:41] <palomer> but I can't seem to partition
[21:41] <neverblue> !enter | palomer
[21:41] <ubotu> palomer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:41] <existone> Drew: just ask your question :)
[21:42] <BodOmLaW> kk
[21:42] <palomer> ok, I can't figure out how to partition
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Search for libgl1-mesa-glx    and install it
[21:42] <neverblue> palomer, using which tool ?
[21:42] <Cyrus25801> DRebellion: well since i am running wine it is a linux issue.and i wouldn't be running IE if i wasn't using a ip camera that needed active x
[21:42] <palomer> erm, the mint installation program
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> palomer: Sounds like a question for the Mint room...
[21:42] <DRebellion> Cyrus25801: ip camera?
[21:42] <BodOmLaW> I wanna migrate to ubuntu from xp, and i want to dual boot with xp(just for gaming) in RAID-0
[21:43] <BodOmLaW> is i doable?
[21:43] <Jagatuba> I don't know if the output from dmesg|tail would help anybody to figure out the problem, but I can post it
[21:43] <jeffMASTERflex> palomer: #linuxmint.com
[21:43] <usr13_> palomer: Are you doing a dual boot system?
[21:43] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  it's already installed, mark it for reinstallation?
[21:43] <BodOmLaW> yes
[21:43] <DRebellion> jeffMASTERflex: i think just dmesg would be more useful
[21:43] <ompaul> !dualboot | BodOmLaW
[21:43] <palomer> I'm trying to dual boot
[21:43] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[21:43] <Cyrus25801> DRebellion: Internet protocol camera. a camera that you run on a network that you assign a ip address to
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: that couldnt hurt
[21:43] <BodOmLaW> thanks
[21:43] <usr13_> palomer: If not, just let the auto partitioning thing take over and do it for you.  Or take the suggestions it gives you.
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Next I am going to ask you to post your xorg.conf to the pastebin...
[21:44] <palomer> ahh, got it!
[21:44] <palomer> thanks!
[21:44] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  ok.
[21:44] <ircleuser> I have enabled the restricted drivers for my ati radeon card. The colour depth isn't right, colours are all wrong. cany anyone help?
[21:45] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  I'm a Ubuntu newb if you didn't notice.
[21:45] <BodOmLaW> hey Ubuntu has no problem with RAID0 right?
[21:45] <Otacon22> what can be an intelligent use of 20 old pc in a local network, all together?
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Starting out by trying to compile a kde app in gnome is not the easiest path to take
[21:45] <DRebellion> BodOmLaW: i don't see any reason why linux wouldn't be able to handle RAID
[21:45] <blizzkid> is there anyone in here who is able to create a joomla component?
[21:45] <DRebellion> Otacon22: cluster computing
[21:45] <Otacon22> DRebellion, yes, but for what
[21:46] <BodOmLaW> and can you partition while you instal it?
[21:46] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  but if you live in the kiddy pool, you'll never learn how to swim
[21:46] <DRebellion> Otacon22: donate cpu cycles to some project that needs them
[21:46] <Cyrus25801> I have installed internet explorer 6 on wine but when i run it all i get is a blank white block.can someone pls help me
[21:46] <BodOmLaW> and can you partition while you instal it?
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: We are here to help... just dont want to see you drown before you can swin
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyrus25801: We have said repeatedly that this is not the place to ask...
[21:47] <Flare183> !wine > Cyrus25801
[21:47] <[nrx]> can  you change the 'depth' within xorg.conf and just expect it to work?
[21:47] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  where is Xorg.conf located?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> dan /etc/X11/
[21:47] <Flare183> dan__: /etc/X11/
[21:48] <RoxanneEDM> hi guys... google earth, my husband got it installed on my laptop, but now i want it on my desktop at home,... could someone help me please
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Into the pastebin, and supply us with the link.. ok?
[21:48] <RoxanneEDM> !googleearth
[21:48] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> RoxanneEDM: let me find my notes that will help make that easier for you.
[21:49] <RoxanneEDM> ok jack
[21:49] <Cyrus25801> I have been to #WineHQ and no one bothers answering my questions.but thanx any way
[21:49] <Nx> nrx:usually X has to be restared
[21:49] <DRebellion> RoxanneEDM: if researching with the bot yourself, could you /msg instead. thanks.
[21:49] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54255/
[21:49] <StrangeCharm_> if hibernation isn't working what's an obvious candidate for the thing that might be broken to cause it?
[21:49] <RoxanneEDM> why, someone else might find the info useful
[21:50] <DRebellion> RoxanneEDM: this channel is just too busy
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> RoxanneEDM: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54258/
[21:50] <RoxanneEDM> it is??? i see me and you talking
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Checking now
[21:50] <RoxanneEDM> and Jack_Sparrow too
[21:50] <RoxanneEDM> Jack_Sparrow:  thank you  ;)
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> RoxanneEDM: And I am rather busy.. as you can see.
[21:51] <Flare183> get use to it
[21:51] <RoxanneEDM> i see that
[21:51] <Gibbwake> ok Im at the recovery prompt with root. I cant boot normally because of a printing port cupsd error. What can I type at the command prompt to nuke all printing services since I dont even have one?
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: I thought you said you had a radeon?
[21:52] <Jagatuba> Ok let's see if anyone can figure this out.
[21:52] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow:  I do. I have onboard graphics too. But I want to use the radeon card
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: HAve you disabled your onboard video in the bios/cmos?
[21:53] <Jagatuba> My usb drives used to mount automatically when I plugged them in. Now they don't. I just get an error
[21:53] <infornography> I have gutsy installed on my laptop. Earlier I was connected it up to my monitor which has a much bigger screen (same resolution though). It worked fine, but now its disconnected, I cant have any resolution other than 640x480. It should be 1680x1050. Anybody know how to fix it?
[21:53] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using the on-board graphics right now, because I get a black screen when I enable the card in bios
[21:53] <ADemiG0D> i just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a desktop, how do i upgrade it to 7.10?
[21:53] <nemilar> ADemiG0D: run update-manager
[21:53] <Flare183> !upgrade | ADemiG0D
[21:53] <ubotu> ADemiG0D: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:53] <[nrx]> can someone please help me sort out the colour/depth on my ati radeon card please?
[21:54] <DRebellion> Jagatuba: it would help if you told us the error ;)
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Ok...  it might be easier to change the bios, have you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to vesa mode then finish the changes...
[21:54] <ADemiG0D> thanks, i'll check it out
[21:54] <liniaal> infornography , you have to check the "screens & graphics screen"
[21:54] <liniaal> (administrator)
[21:54] <bugspray> [nrx]: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:54] <Jagatuba> something about a bad super block and missing codepage or helper
[21:54] <linuxNoob> yay i got wine running
[21:54] <ADemiG0D> ah hah, i cant believe i missed that, thanks again
[21:54] <infornography> I have checked it. All options other than 640x480 are now gone
[21:54] <linuxNoob> i am god
[21:55] <[nrx]> bugspray, just the 'depth' line? it's currently at 24
[21:55] <Jagatuba> do you need verbatim
[21:55] <Flare183> linuxNoob: no your not
[21:55] <linuxNoob> lol
[21:55] <nickrud> Gibbwake: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S19cupsys /etc/rc2.d/K19cupsys to stop cups
[21:55] <linuxNoob> im using linux for the first time ever today
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: How about editing xorg... line 65 to vesa
[21:55] <linuxNoob> i feel accomplished :)
[21:55] <Gibbwake> nickrud: thanks. whatll that do?
[21:55] <tass1412> does that work?:
[21:55] <tass1412> # <target name>	<source device>		<key file>	<options>
[21:55] <tass1412> wd	UUID="c26d7779-0f05-4ca1-8ad1-fb773255dd92"	none	luks,retry=1,cipher=aes-lrw-benbi
[21:55] <DRebellion> linuxNoob: good for you ;)
[21:56] <Flare183> !paste | tass1412 (get use to this)
[21:56] <ubotu> tass1412 (get use to this): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: How about editing xorg... line 78   to 16  for now
[21:56] <bugspray> linuxNoob: if this is your first day using linux; then no problem exclaiming that you are God. that feeling is understandable
[21:56] <nickrud> Gibbwake: it will stop the cups daemon from starting . Cups is so deeply engrained in gnome (ubuntu) that removing it is not practical
[21:56] <nemilar> Jack_Sparrow: your xorg and his xorg lines don't necessarily coincide
[21:56] <tass1412> Flare183: and how about helping? (that text was flooding more than mine...)
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nemilar: I am looking at his in the pastebin..  :)
[21:56] <[nrx]> what's the standard colour depth? is it 64?
[21:56] <nemilar> Jack_Sparrow: haha, my bad
[21:57] <Jagatuba> DRebellion: do you need a verbatim quote of the error?
[21:57] <bugspray> [nrx]: try setting it to 24
[21:57] <nemilar> [nrx]: 24
[21:57]  * nickrud laughs, anyone thinking Jack_Sparrow could make that mistake :)
[21:57] <[nrx]> bugspray, it's already at 24
[21:57] <nemilar> [nrx]: try 32
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: tag... Hi buddy
[21:57] <[nrx]> nemilar, okay. i'll give that a bash
[21:57] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: hey there. Just stopping in on my coffee break
[21:57] <heyjoe`> gcc -o hello hello.c it tells me stdio.h is not found.... what am i doing wrong? is there a package i need to install ?
[21:57] <[Rollerman]> hola
[21:57] <[nrx]> nemilar, just by editing xorg.conf?
[21:57] <nemilar> heyjoe`: need build-essential
[21:57] <DRebellion> Jagatuba: of course
[21:57] <Tiancai> i'm trying to set scim as the default input method, but it just wont work... I already installed smart pinyin and chinese language support, then i run "im-switch -z fi_FI -s scim" but it won't change scim as the default. I've already rebooted a couple times.
[21:58] <Tiancai> can you help me?
[21:58] <[Rollerman]> hola??
[21:58] <bugspray> nemilar: that is not a valid color depth. 16 is the next that he should now try as a fallback if 24 is no-go
[21:58] <nemilar> [nrx]: what's the problem?
[21:58] <Jagatuba> k hang on a sec
[21:58] <Gibbwake> nickrud: whats the difference between k19 and s19?
[21:58] <nemilar> bugspray: 32 is valid
[21:58] <ruben-> DRebellion: It works now, after reinstall - don't know how, did the exact same thing :)
[21:58] <de4dsnake> hey, can neone help me troublshooting grub? ive got error 2 on first reboot after freshinstalling from live cd?
[21:58] <nemilar> bugspray: 24 is preferred however
[21:58] <lmnop> wud up gangsta
[21:58] <bugspray> 32 is only transparency layers over 24
[21:58] <ahunter_> wat up g
[21:58] <[nrx]> nemilar: everything was fine.. but graphics were slow, so i enabled restricted drivers. Now that it's enabled, colour depth is crap. it's currently set to 24
[21:59] <nickrud> Gibbwake: if you take a look at  ls  /etc/rc2.d , you'll see a bunch of services, S** means start in this order , K** means stop in this order (or don't start at all)
[21:59] <[nrx]> nemilar, all skin tones have a blue hue
[21:59] <DRebellion> ruben-: excellent
[21:59] <sybariten> uhm, i installed ubuntu via that windows-installer-thingy
[21:59] <bugspray> [nrx]: is your driver set to vesa?
[21:59] <Gibbwake> awesome
[21:59] <sybariten> and... well... now i am booting for the first time
[21:59] <ruben-> DRebellion: as soon as i logged on it said "use sudo ... ", works perfect :) I like :p
[21:59] <[nrx]> bugspray, set to flgrx (or whatever it is, sorry)
[21:59] <StrangeCharm_> in the forums, i read that hibernation not working is a common problem in ubuntu. is that true?
[21:59] <sybariten> but it stopped at a thing...  "starting local scripts" or something ... i had to press Alt-F1, and got a new prompt
[21:59] <Gibbwake> nickrud: how long should the sudo mv take? its not really doing anything
[21:59] <nickrud> Gibbwake: fyi , /etc/rcS.d is run first (and corresponds to recovery mode) then /etc/rc2.d
[22:00] <bugspray> [nrx]: has this fglrx install yet worked on this setup?
[22:00] <sd32> i just got a cross site scripting warning from the wikipedia  ubuntu article
[22:00] <nickrud> Gibbwake: you got the command line back? It's done
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ahunter_: May I PM for a sec..
[22:00] <josh__> anyone know of a way to remove special characters from file names
[22:00] <de4dsnake> hey, can neone help me troublshooting grub? ive got error 2 on first reboot after freshinstalling from live cd? anyone please? I found that error 2 means drive not found. But live cd does see the drive and is able to mount it
[22:00] <nickrud> Gibbwake: mv is move, or rename
[22:01] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: line 78 says "screen"
[22:01] <bugspray> [nrx]: set driver to vesa, do a little more research THEN try redo of fglrx install
[22:01] <[nrx]> bugspray, not as yet no. I had it as vesa before and it was fine but graphics were very slow. I'm running MythTV you see. So I enabled restricted drivers, now video speed etc is fine, but the colours all wrong on MythTV
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: change default depth
[22:01] <infornography> exit
[22:02] <Alyxander> [nrx]: what graphics card?
[22:02] <bugspray> [nrx]: colors, etc with fglrx were fine with other apps?
[22:02] <andy_> Hi I'm running 7.10. Last week for "no reason at all" gnome began taking a long time to start after the gdm sign in. Any idea where to start looking for the problem?
[22:02] <Jagatuba> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1,    missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[22:02] <[nrx]> bugspray, not really. I can see the colour depth isn't quite right
[22:02] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: ok, done
[22:02] <edju> dwnloaded kubuntu amd64 for an hp laptop and booted into it.  no recognition of the video driver - not surprising - it needs the linux driver from nvidia, which I havee on a cd.  i have a prompt, though.  how to start the install?  text install is OK with me.
[22:03] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: restart and change bios?
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[22:03] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: k
[22:03] <jimat> de4dsnake: what s the content of menu.lst?
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: remember
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:03] <sybariten> what should i do if ubuntu doesnt wanna go beyond "running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local)" ???
[22:03] <bugspray> [nrx]: not seeing the color problem myself, i would suspect problem with driver installed. (it most likely doesn't 100% match your card)
[22:03] <OldGreg> ok. so I just somehow managed to lock myself out of my own system
[22:04] <pepperjack> OldGreg: always a classic
[22:04] <OldGreg> yup
[22:04] <[nrx]> bugspray, it's sitting at gnome desktop just now and the colour is pretty much okay.
[22:04] <pepperjack> OldGreg: you can boot to single user shell and run passwd username
[22:04] <theRealballchalk> who's using FireGL V3200?
[22:04] <OldGreg> it's not that. it's permissions
[22:04] <[nrx]> bugspray, but if i fire up MythTV, I can see all the skin tones are off, everything has a blue hue to it
[22:04] <Gibb> nickrud: damn, still have that cupsd error on boot, its hanging up on it
[22:04] <pepperjack> OldGreg: what did you do?
[22:05] <de4dsnake> jimat: I wont b able to paste it, because its on another machine. However it doesnt even got the grub menu. the error occurs before.
[22:05] <OldGreg> i was messing with the permissions on some of the files in my home directory, and now I can't get Gnome or KDE to run. it can't create the hidden files in my home dir
[22:05] <Alyxander> [nrx]: what graphics card?
[22:05] <OldGreg> i can access the folders as root in recovery mode, so it's all there
[22:05] <OldGreg> i just can't log in normall
[22:05] <OldGreg> *normally
[22:05] <[nrx]> Alyxander, ATI Radeon
[22:05] <bugspray> [nrx]: so, get info on your card verified, research all versions of ubuntu-specific-fglrx ATI drivers available. if no ubuntu-specific driver 100% compatible with specifically YOUR card, try ATI driver from ATI
[22:06] <Jagatuba> DRebellion?
[22:06] <pepperjack> OldGreg: so a sudo chown -R $USER:USER ~   <-- fixes?
[22:06] <pepperjack> OldGreg: er chown -R $USER:$USER
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: Which number radeon
[22:06] <Alyxander> either way you can use envy to install the latest driver and then use the control center to make adjustments. be careful though
[22:06] <OldGreg> PepperJack: I haven't tried that
[22:06] <jimat> de4dsnake: see if it you run: "grub", then "find /boot/grub/stage1" if it can find where grub is
[22:06] <OldGreg> two minutes
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: 9500 and lower can not use fglrx
[22:07] <DRebellion> Jagatuba: i don't know
[22:07] <Jagatuba> dang
[22:07] <quittt> hey
[22:07] <jimat> de4dsnake: if not found, you may need to reinstall grub
[22:07] <DRebellion> Jagatuba: what format is the drive?
[22:07] <nickrud> Gibb: a sec
[22:07] <Jagatuba> FAT 16
[22:07] <Alpha_Cluster> how do i get it so that under visual effects that custom will work? for some reason only extra and normal do things and by clicking custom it only does what is set in extra
[22:07] <de4dsnake> jimat: where should i look for grub. I  after mounting the hard drive i can see grub in the boot folder
[22:08] <Jagatuba> it's weird because it used to automount
[22:08] <barfender> I am getting 'no signal' from my monitor. This happens after 30min of activity in console mode and in xfce with fglrx loaded. What could be the problem and could HardyHeron/Aplha fix this?
[22:08] <__IaN__> HI! only 1 newbe question, how can i be root user???
[22:08] <Jagatuba> even like a couple of weeks ago i used it
[22:08] <pepperjack> !root | __IaN__
[22:08] <ubotu> __IaN__: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:08] <OldGreg> PepperJack: tried it. says missing operand after :
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> barfender: Dont look to hardy to fix a gutsy problem
[22:09] <Jagatuba> the only thing I've done since them is installed some updates to ubuntu
[22:09] <coldboot|home> How is Evolution these days? Does anyone use it with Exchange Server?
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> __IaN__: USe sudo or gksudo
[22:09] <pepperjack> OldGreg: so basically do this insteal sudo chown -R OldGreg:OldGreg ~  <-- where OldGreg is your username
[22:09] <Jagatuba> gksudo
[22:09] <nickrud> Gibb: ls /etc/rc2.d , make sure  that S19cupsys does not exist, and K19cupsys does.
[22:09] <__IaN__> thanx very much
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:09] <OldGreg> pepperjack: just realized there was a tilde at the end of that
[22:09] <quittt> how do I change terminal fonts?
[22:09] <pepperjack> __IaN__: welcome to ubuntu
[22:09] <Gibb> nickrud: ok
[22:09] <[nrx]> Jack_Sparr, not sure... it's from HIS
[22:09] <de4dsnake> jimat: OK. i managed to paste after all http://paste.ubuntu.nl.org/54261/
[22:09] <jimat> de4dsnake: run it from live CD terminal
[22:09] <jimat> grub
[22:09] <jimat> find /boot/grub/stage1
[22:09] <jimat> if it says found on a partition, then you have it
[22:09] <DRebellion> quittt: right-click on it and select "edit current profile"
[22:10] <quittt> DRebellion, it is the console one, without X
[22:10] <DRebellion> !enter | jimat
[22:10] <ubotu> jimat: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:10] <cox377> does anyone know the command to empty trash can?
[22:10] <de4dsnake> jimat: yes it does
[22:10] <DRebellion> cox377: rm -r ~/.Trash
[22:10] <[nrx]> front of the box says 'X1550 PCI Express'
[22:10] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: ok, that froze on the Ubuntu flash screen, but worked up till then
[22:11] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: Splash, not flash
[22:11] <VvWolverinevV> hi, i've been having trouble with ubuntu randomly logging out while i'm working, i have no idea how to even start troubleshooting that
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: so are you in recovery mode ?
[22:11] <Jagatuba> some one earlier said it may be a problem with my fstab?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: or did you turn on the onboard again.
[22:11] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: No, I changed back to onboard in bios
[22:12] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: do you mean that the xserver restarts?
[22:12] <[nrx]> Alyxander: have you had this problem, too?
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Did you try reconvery mode and the sudo dpkg....
[22:12] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: how do i know?
[22:12] <heyjoe`> i'm getting the following error when i type sudo apt-get install build-essential Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-libc-dev_2.6.20-16.32_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[22:12] <heyjoe`> how do i fix this?
[22:12] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: im a n00b
[22:12] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: recovery mode with the PCI enabled?
[22:12] <de4dsnake> jimat: that find command gives me (hd0,0). Any more ideas?
[22:12] <Alyxander> [nrx]: yes
[22:12] <Dmole> can anyone tell me what is happening with the escape sequences in this BASH command?:          export com=`echo "$com" | perl -pi -w -e 's/\\/\\\\/g;'`;
[22:12] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: like, does the screen do dark, you wait a few minutes, and then it kicks you back to the login screen?
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: Yes, onboard off, recovery mode... and the command I gave
[22:13] <[nrx]> Alyxander - how did you resolve it?
[22:13] <jrib> Dmole: \\ is \
[22:13] <barfender> Jack_Sparrow maybe, but ive searched all over the net and haven't found any solution to why the monitor goes black..i mean fglrxinfo and glxgears | grep "direct" confirms that everything works.
[22:13] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: sudo dpkg... is the command?
[22:13] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: the screen goes dark, i see a few lines of bash that go to quick to read and then i get the login again, yes
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:14] <jimat> de4dsnake: try reinstall grub, in the grub shell: root(hd0,0), then setup(hd0), then exit
[22:14] <edju> anyone?  i'd love to get this installed!
[22:14] <NMaji1> I currently get my IP by DHCP from my ISP.  How can I find out what this IP is remotely? Is there a way I can have a cron job run wget on whatsmyip.org and email it to myself or something?  I'm pulling at strings here, I really don't even know if what I want to do is feasible.
[22:14] <Alyxander> i was using svideo and an nvidia card i installed the driver with envy. and then used the control center to adjust the video settings
[22:14] <Dmole> jrib: yah I want \ to be replaced with  \\ but i get this error :         Substitution replacement not terminated at -e line 1.
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dan__: select vesa mode and 1024 res and accept all other defaults
[22:14] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: does it happen while you're typing?  sometimes you can accidentally hit the shortcut to kill X
[22:14] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: ok, going to do it now
[22:14] <[nrx]> Alyxander: MythTV control center?
[22:14] <zibor> alguien me puede ayudar con el amule
[22:14] <Alyxander> ati gives you with the catalyst control center. that you get when using envy
[22:14] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: which is?
[22:14] <OldGreg> pepperjack:didn't fix
[22:14] <de4dsnake> jimat: i tried reinstalling already with no success
[22:14] <bugspray> edju: what is it you are trying to do? sorry i haven't payed attention
[22:14] <jrib> Dmole: I don't know perl, but sed 's/\\/\\\\/g' should work
[22:14] <[nrx]> Alyxander, not sure what envy is, sorry :/
[22:14] <OldGreg> sorry. smiley appeared out of nowhere
[22:14] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[22:14] <edju> dwnloaded kubuntu amd64 for an hp laptop and booted into it.  no recognition of the video driver - not surprising - it needs the linux driver from nvidia, which I havee on a cd.  i have a prompt, though.  how to start the install?  text install is OK with me.
[22:15] <jimat> de4dsnake: what it says?
[22:15] <jrib> !es | zibor
[22:15] <ubotu> zibor: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:15] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: ctrl + alt + backspace
[22:15] <Alyxander> [nrx]: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[22:15] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: i don't think i've been typing, one time i was transferring some files to a secondary HDD, another time i was just using firefox
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[22:15] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:15] <Dmole> jrib: VIM shows it as purple not the normal red for escape sequences
[22:15] <de4dsnake> jimat: the installtion was successfull, but at reboot it still gives error 2
[22:15] <quittt> how do I change boot screen?
[22:15] <[nrx]> I have the restricted driver installed tho.. but can't find anywhere to configure the card! :(
[22:15] <bugspray> edju: you are only stumped on how to install the nvidia driver?
[22:16] <jimat> de4dsnake: is it a RAID harddisk?
[22:16] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: running any special window managers (beryl, compiz)?  That happened to me a couple times due to instability
[22:16] <fiXXXerMet> |startup
[22:16] <Alyxander> Jack_Sparrow: envy works if your careful and also it gives you  a way to configure your cards
[22:16] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: compiz
[22:16] <de4dsnake> jimat: yes raid0, sorry if i havent mentioned before
[22:16] <fiXXXerMet> Erm what is the bot command?
[22:16] <jrib> Dmole: hmm ok, maybe I'm wrong with sed (just tried).  Let me play
[22:16] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: how did you fix it?
[22:16] <Alyxander> ubuntu doesnt include that and its the easiest way to get them to work
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Alyxander: Envy is NOT something to be recommended in here...
[22:17] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: I stopped using compiz.  My issue was the ATI driver was (at the time) not fully supported with compiz
[22:17] <Flare183> !evny
[22:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evny - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:17] <Alyxander> people complain that thye have had problems ive used it for both ati and nvidia and have been happy
[22:17] <Flare183> !envy
[22:17] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:17] <[nrx]> s there an envy equivalent then?
[22:17] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: you might try updating your drivers
[22:17] <edju> bugspray, that would work - though so would a text install, i don't neeed a gui now.  trieed various drivers with dpkg-reconfigure, but some of the configs stump me.
[22:17] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: otherwise, i'm not sure.
[22:17] <NMajik> On a similar note to my above question, can an email be sent from a CLI?
[22:17] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: are they not automatically updated through the repos?
[22:17] <Alyxander> Jack_Sparrow: why is that? its functional
[22:17] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: i may try disabling compiz if it happens again, thanks for the advice
[22:18] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: not the official ones, if you're using them.
[22:18] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: okay
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> [nrx]: sudo aticonfig
[22:18] <coz_> VvWolverinevV, you also may want to go to #compiz-fusion and talk with adamk about ati  solutions for your system
[22:18] <bugspray> edju: one sec; i am googling the pertinant ubuntu specific nvidia tutorial. i did it once before myself; it went fine
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Alyxander: It causes other problems
[22:18] <jimat> de4dsnake: I never experience it, but I know a good link which may help: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630644
[22:18] <VvWolverinevV> freyyr: i have a geforce card
[22:18] <Alyxander> yes I know people screw up the xorg.conf at times but its normally contributed to no one helping them
[22:18] <freyyr> VvWolverinevV: hmm, I'm not sure then.  sorry.
[22:18] <coz_> VvWolverinevV, you are using nvidia?
[22:19] <coz_> VvWolverinevV, and which card specifically?
[22:19] <VvWolverinevV> coz_: yes, well at least nvidia hardware
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Alyxander: Way worse that that.. and a topic for...  offtopic
[22:19] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey all, I've noticed that my "X" process is eating up my processor usage after a while of use. What is up with this? It never happened before
[22:19] <VvWolverinevV> coz_: evga geforce 8600GT
[22:19] <coz_> VvWolverinevV, and which driver version is installed?
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> VvWolverinevV: bugger of a card
[22:19] <paule118> evV, and which driver version is installed?
 VvWolverinevV: bugger of a card
[22:19] <VvWolverinevV> coz_: unsure, i would have to check when i get home
[22:20] <Alyxander> but from experience it works and for what he needs to do is the best and easiest solution and its on topic, he has ubuntu and is trying to get mythtv to work and asked if there was a way to configure the colors on the card
[22:20] <VvWolverinevV> Jack_Sparrow: how so?
[22:20] <coz_> VvWolverinevV,     glxinfo|grep OpenGL\ version
[22:20] <sterling> Hey guys
[22:20] <VvWolverinevV> coz_: im on my macbook atm :P
[22:20] <ircleuser> all i wanna do is change the damn colour depth! :(
[22:20] <coz_> VvWolverinevV, oh you are not at the system  ok
[22:20] <paule118>  and which driver version
[22:20] <sterling> Anyone know anything that runs .lit files for Ubuntu?
[22:20] <Alyxander> but what ever [nrx] pm me if you need help
[22:20] <edju> bugspray, thanks, but i just got the gui - used the vesa driver.  i can install the nvidia one after kubuntu is all set.  thanks agin.
[22:20] <sybariten> is there any way to see all, or at least parts of, the bootup messages, from an SSH machine?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> VvWolverinevV: If you look at the nvidia binary drivers page.. specifically excluded
[22:20] <bugspray> edju: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[22:20] <WhoNeedszzz> anyone ever have any problems with the "X" process?
[22:20] <de4dsnake> jimat: that link describes how to install a fake raid as secondary harddrives. Im actually trying to installl kubuntu on my raid hd
[22:21] <sybariten> i am asking because this machine i am typing from has a screen, but i'm thinking of moving it to another room... and i need to know if the startup is OK now or not
[22:21] <VvWolverinevV> Jack_Sparrow: link?
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> VvWolverinevV: If your card does not appear in this [WWW] list of cards known by Ubuntu 7.04 NVIDIA binary drivers (e.g. the 8600GT) then there is no Ubuntu 7.04 supported binary driver.
[22:21] <bugspray> edju: i did find the compiz/beryl stuff VERY buggy and i regretted fooling with it
[22:21] <de4dsnake> jimat: also im unsure if i reallly have a software raid or hardware raid
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:22] <bugspray> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:22] <jrib> Dmole: hmm, no it's working fine with sed as I posted
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> bugspray: There may be a better soultion by now.. I just dont know it
[22:22] <RazzoRz> Hey Folks!
[22:23] <VvWolverinevV> Jack_Sparrow: wow who would know to check that before building a system?
[22:23] <WhoNeedszzz> if anyone has had a "X" process high usage problem please pm me
[22:23] <edju> bugspray, good to know.  in order to do the install, gotta disconnect here.  bookmarked the url.  thanks.
[22:23] <jimat> de4dsnake: when you install windows, did you install a driver with a special CD first before installing windows?
[22:23] <jrib> Dmole: echo '\\\\' | perl -pi -w -e 's/\\/\\\\/g;'  works here too
[22:23] <Flare183> !language > dogshi1
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> VvWolverinevV: I expect a good solution soon...
[22:23] <bugspray> edju; np, good luck
[22:24] <Dmole> jrib: yah i think it's the export ''; that is messing up the escape
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone, play nice...  I need some lunch....
[22:24] <de4dsnake> jimat: i didnt install windows yet
[22:24] <RazzoRz> Having a issue with Hang time while rebooting and shutting down... is there a way to find out what is delaying the shutdown or rebooting?
[22:24] <VvWolverinevV> Jack_Sparrow: that would be nice, thanks for the link
[22:24] <sb_> hello, is this the right forum to ask a question about remote desktop protocol?
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:25] <Dmole> jrib: the whole command was this:                  export com=`echo "$com" | perl -pi -w -e 's/\\/\\\\/g;'`;
[22:25] <de4dsnake> jimat: but previously when i had raid 2 i didnt need to do nething for windows installation. havent installed ubuntu on the system prev. tho
[22:25] <jrib> de4dsnake: yeah, that's a pain.  You should try #bash
[22:25] <dolphin> ver irc.omgirc.com
[22:25] <Shadow6363> i'm about to install ubuntu and was wondering if theres a quick way to tell what physical drives grub references
[22:25] <sterling> Anyone know anything that runs .lit files for Ubuntu?
[22:26] <sb_> hello, is this the right forum to ask a question about remote desktop protocol?
[22:26] <EricBlair> duno, ima n00b
[22:26] <RazzoRz> Just ask SB
[22:26] <bugspray> RazzoRz: i think serial console is the answer that beats all others for this
[22:26] <jrib> Dmole: yeah, that's a pain.  You should try #bash
[22:26] <jrib> sb_: sure, if it's in ubuntu
[22:26] <paule118> oooooooooooooosssssssssssssssss
[22:26] <RazzoRz> bugspray: do explain
[22:27] <paule118> ooooooooooo sssssssssssssuuuuuurreeeeeeeee
[22:27] <de4dsnake> jimat: i just was trying to follow the instructions on the link u sent me before, but i failed  on the very first step with apt-get dmraid
[22:27] <de4dsnake> it doesnt find it
[22:27] <paule118> dddddddddddddddddd
[22:27] <sb_> thanks Razzor, i'm trying to connect to a terminal server in windows 2003 server, in WinXP I use a command line like this: mstsc /v:10.0.0.1 /console  .... is there a similar command in ubuntu?
[22:27] <jrib> paule118: please do not do that
[22:27] <sterling> .lit is the file type used in the Microsoft reader, anyone know a valid program that reads those files for Ubuntu?
[22:27] <jimat> de4dsnake: doesnt find raid harddisk?
[22:27] <paule118> bllabllabalbalba
[22:27] <Dmole> jrib: lol silly me. thanks.
[22:27] <bugspray> RazzoRz: connect another box to trouble machine's serial port, tee kernel messages to it
[22:28] <esaym> what is a good program to burn avi files onto a dvd in dvd format?
[22:28] <de4dsnake> jimat: no, it finds the hard disk, but apt doesnt find the dmraid package. I also tried updating adept
[22:28] <quittt> how do I change console fonts?
[22:28] <jrib> quittt: right click -> edit current profile
[22:28] <danc3> esaym: k3b
[22:29] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: I got an error code.  error_code+0x72/0x80
[22:29] <quittt> jrib, CONSOLE, without X
[22:29] <lollo> hi everyone
[22:29] <sterling> .lit is the file type used in the Microsoft reader, anyone know a valid program that reads those files for Ubuntu?
[22:29] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: and it didn't load past that
[22:29] <jimat> de4dsnake: you missed the first instruction: 1 Administration > Software Sources. Check 'Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)'. When prompted to, reload the repositories.
[22:29] <EricBlair> http://www.google.com/search?hl=&cat=&meta=&num=&ie=utf-8&q=read+.lit+file+in+ubuntu
[22:29] <dimedo> hi there, is there some kind of compatibility layer for i386 applications in the amd64 releases?
[22:29] <lollo> here I can ask you all kind of problems that i may have with ubuntu ?
[22:29] <coz_> lollo, yep this is the place
[22:29] <phroughy> lollo: thats the idea
[22:30] <lollo> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE  thx
[22:30] <Shadow6363> anyone know how grub maps the /dev/ drives?
[22:30] <lollo> well, i've created a backup file in the root, but i've discovered that i can't cut it !
[22:30] <lollo> i can only copy it ?
[22:31] <lollo> i've ubuntu 7.10
[22:31] <esaym> danc3: k3b can burn avi's onto a dvd so that they can be played on any dvd player?
[22:31] <bugspray> RazzoRz: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html <this kicks butt
[22:31] <phroughy> lollo, that is because you do not have write permissions.  use sudo
[22:31] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys, after idling I come back to my computer and I see the the "X" process is 99% +- 2% and so I am wondering what is causing this. It never happened before
[22:31] <RazzoRz> TY
[22:31] <danc3> esaym: I don't know.  You didn't specify that in  your question.
[22:31] <WhoNeedszzz> that*
[22:31] <Dmole> jrib: good call they said: "\amethyst>	Dmole: use $( ) instead"
[22:31] <Boudha> which plugin for firefox should I use for java?
[22:31] <sb_> thanks Razzor, i'm trying to connect to a terminal server in windows 2003 server, in WinXP I use a command line like this: mstsc /v:10.0.0.1 /console  .... is there a similar command in ubuntu?
[22:31] <jrib> Dmole: hmm, does that work?  I thought I tried that
[22:31] <danc3> Boudha: ummmm, the Java one?
[22:31] <Boudha> ya
[22:32] <jrib> quittt: consolechars maybe?
[22:32] <phroughy> Boudha, supposedely sun-java6-plugin works, but it didnt work for me :S
[22:32] <LockesRabb> anyone have experience with Tilda?
[22:32] <Boudha> ok
[22:32] <quittt> jrib, yes
[22:32] <lollo> umh nobody can answer me ?
[22:32] <danc3> lollo: you were answered
[22:32] <EricBlair> skrol bak, lollo
[22:33] <danc3> lollo: use "sudo"
[22:33] <lollo> i've not seen it sorry
[22:33] <spacekeeter> http://www.linuxishawt.com/
[22:33] <LockesRabb> anyone have experience in using Tilda?
[22:33] <lollo> ok, what's the command line for cutting files ?
[22:33] <Boudha> thanks
[22:33] <danc3> lollo: generally, when you ask a question, you should then pay some attention, so you'll see the answers...
[22:33] <Dmole> jrib: this worked:             export com=$(echo "$com" | perl -pi -w -e 's/\\/\\\\/g;');
[22:33] <phroughy> lollo, i assume that you want to move a file then?
[22:33] <danc3> lollo: mv
[22:33] <lollo> sry i'm a little tired today :s
[22:34] <lollo> thx everyone
[22:34] <bardyr> is there a program to emulate laptop brightness bottons, because my brightness buttons are broken on this laptop and i dont know how to fix it
[22:34] <dan__> Is Jack_Sparrow idle?
[22:34] <cox377> how easy is it to bridge LAN connections to double network speeds?
[22:34] <jaggy> err whenever i try to play an mp3 whit amarok it says no mp3 support, how to fix it ?
[22:34] <xomp> Anyone know when this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/138305 will ever get fixed? Last comment on it was 01/11/08 with no activity... I'd really like to install Gutsy on my Optiplex 320 :(
[22:34] <phroughy> lollo: you will probably have to use sudo if you made it with root.  so "sudo mv /the/file/you/want/to/move /where/you/want/to/put/it"
[22:34] <WhoNeedszzz> jaggy, google it
[22:35] <foomonkey> I'd love to be able to run X programs remotely on our AIX servers from my Ubuntu desktop. what do I need to do this? I'd think I've got all I need pre-installed. No?
[22:35] <WhoNeedszzz> jaggy, google amarok mp3 support
[22:35] <jrib> Dmole: interesting, that works in bash, but not zsh
[22:35] <omglol> I go to an online school via K12.com and when I try to log-in, since it's flash, it just shows a blank white screen. I mean, YouTube and other flash sites work, so why doesn't this one?
[22:35] <lollo> phr thx ;)
[22:35] <omglol> It works on Windows XP by the way.
[22:35] <sterling> .lit is the file type used in the Microsoft reader, anyone know a valid program that reads those files for Ubuntu?
[22:35] <jrib> omglol: are you using adobe's flash or gnash?
[22:35] <EricBlair> google knos
[22:35] <omglol> Flash.
[22:36] <WhoNeedszzz> has no one ever had any problems with the "X" process?!?!?!
[22:36] <bugspray> RazzoRz: also, when you're done falling in love with the serial console idea, consider http://www.digi.com/products/serialservers/index.jsp?utm_source=google_us&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=ppc_ethser&gclid=CMnAl7rEoZECFSQMIgodS0QDtg
[22:36] <omglol> Adobe Flash. ;)
[22:36] <de4dsnake> jimat: after doing dmraid -r it wont show ne devices listed as stripe, isntead they listed as group? what does group mean?
[22:36] <RazzoRz> LMAO   ty
[22:36] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: X process? I'm not sure that one has bothered me before...
[22:36] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, it goes to 99% after I idle
[22:37] <bugspray> sorry for lazy post of google redirect uri
[22:37] <WhoNeedszzz> it never did that before
[22:37] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: you mean Xorg ?
[22:37] <de4dsnake> jimat: are u still there/
[22:37] <phroughy> WhoNeedszzz: occasionally i have the process xorg go crazy on me... (like twice ever)
[22:37] <jimat> de4dsnake: as I said I never experienced this situation, hope someone else can help you, good luck
[22:37] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, no it is just "X"
[22:37] <de4dsnake> jimat: ok, thank you for link tho
[22:37] <adelie43> is there a way to load restricted drivers / firmware from the command line? the restricted drivers tool won't install the firmware. will download firmware,then does nothing, and manually specifying the file, ok button does nothing  :( help please
[22:37] <Kloss> hi need a programm to transfer my mp3s from harddrive to my mp3 player and vice versa. my player is not being recognized in nautilus. had a little program therefore but dont know the name anymore. can you help?
[22:38] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: I don't have a  process called X.. what would that be.. are you running vanilla ubuntu?
[22:38] <Slart> Kloss: try amarok.. there are others too
[22:38] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, i'm running Xubuntu
[22:38] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: hang on.. I've got a xubuntu machine running.. let me check
[22:38] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, ok
[22:38] <Ette> anyone know of a FTP client?
[22:39] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: nope.. no process called X there either..
[22:39] <phroughy> ette: filezilla is my favorite
[22:39] <DRebellion> !ftp | Ette
[22:39] <ubotu> Ette: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:39] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, wtf
[22:39] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: what version of xubuntu?
[22:39] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, Gutsy
[22:39] <jrib> !who | omglol
[22:39] <ubotu> omglol: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:39] <adelie43> etta: firefox, or fireftp firefox plugin is really good extention
[22:39] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: hmm.. could you do a "ps -A | grep -i x" and pastebin the result?
[22:39] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, k
[22:39] <RazzoRz> sd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267853
[22:40] <jrib> omglol: when you click on login does any flash content load at all?  i.e. do you see the progress bar for "loading" and the K12 logo?
[22:40] <RazzoRz> sb:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267853
[22:40] <Kloss> Slart: thank you. and amarok is for transferring mp3s from hard drive to mp3 player and back?
[22:40] <Slart> Kloss: i've used it to do that, yes
[22:40] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, http://pastebin.ca/886785
[22:40] <Kloss> Slart: thanks!
[22:41] <Slart> Kloss: I don't know if it works with absolutely *all* mp3-players.. it did with mine though
[22:41] <adelie43> what package contains the restricted drivers manager?
[22:41] <xomp> Does anyone know if it's possible to install & run ubuntu Gutsy from a portable hard drive?
[22:41] <jrib> adelie43: restricted-manager
[22:41] <Slart> xomp: if you can boot from it I'd say yes
[22:41] <adelie43> xomp: yes. even usb key  :)
[22:41] <adelie43> jrib thanks
[22:41] <RazzoRz> sb: if this helps let me know .... http://www.rdesktop.org/
[22:41] <bugspray> xomp; sure it is. a boot manager may be the only issue
[22:41] <Kloss> Slart: do you know a list with many of those programs. i would recognize my old one there!
[22:42] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: no process called X there.. where did you see this process?
[22:42] <lollo> well guys, i've used the command mv as u suggested but the backup file has been only copied :S
[22:42] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, it is in the xfce-taskmanager
[22:42] <Slart> Kloss: you could search in synaptic.. or use the Add/Remove menu
[22:42] <xomp> bugspray, I have the ability to boot to a usb device in my PC, wasn't sure if it took an act of congress to install/boot Gutsy from it lol. Thanks
[22:42] <dman> Slart: X is the graphical backbone of almost all linux
[22:42] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, xfce4-taskmanager*
[22:42] <lollo> i'll remove it from the root using rm .. !
[22:42] <Slart> Kloss: or run "apt-cache search mp3 player" and see what it comes up with
[22:42] <xomp> although it does take an act of congress to get Gutsy to work on my Optiplex :/
[22:43] <Slart> dman: mm.. indeed.. but there is no process called X, is there?
[22:43] <cyrus82> hello, is the hardy alpha 4 iso out yet?
[22:43] <phroughy> lollo, good job :P
[22:43] <bugspray> xomp: i don't know about the act of congress. rather bipartisan these days... maybe you'll only need the stars to be aligned properly
[22:43] <lollo> the command mv copies or cuts the file ? ?
[22:43] <WhoNeedszzz> dman, I am having it read 99% after idling
[22:43] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: hang on.. I'll check my xubuntu machine again
[22:43] <lollo> thx LoL
[22:43] <Kloss> Slart: thank you again! great supporter!
[22:43] <xomp> bugspray, lol, aye :)
[22:43] <phroughy> lollo, its supposed to move (cut)
[22:44] <phroughy> cyrus, get #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <phroughy> cyrus, i mean try asking in #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <cyrus82> i'll do this, thanks
[22:44] <dman> Slart: there might be something along the lines of xserver, maybe? or xgl
[22:45] <LockesRabb> anyone have experience with tilda? or at least the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts?
[22:45] <Slart> dman: yes.. I guess the taskmanager might do some translation stuff.. seems odd though.. why not call processes by their real name
[22:45] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, dman, I see "X" in xfce4-taskmanager
[22:45] <WhoNeedszzz> and it is giving me trouble
[22:45] <xomp> I just wish someone would get working on a fix for the 2.6.22-14-generic kernel bug :/
[22:45] <RazzoRz> My other silly question is!...  i have recorded my desktop and the program that records the desktop uses a ogg format!... now from what i am reading and being told that a Ogg format is a Sounds Format. and when i try to upload it to youtube it fails... anyone has a answer for me?
[22:46] <xomp> RazzoRz, .ogg is a container
[22:46] <dman> Slart: i don't know. My xubuntu install isn't functioning currently, so i can't check. regardless, it is the graphical server, unless it's something utterly unrelated...
[22:46] <RazzoRz> Xomp: explain
[22:46] <magnetron> RazzoRz: you can use the avidemux program to convert it to something else
[22:46] <xomp> RazzoRz, .ogg can support multiple subtitle, audio and video streams.
[22:46] <LockesRabb> anyone have experience with tilda? or at least the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts?
[22:46] <RazzoRz> xopm: thank you  Magnetron Ty...
[22:47] <xomp> RazzoRz, I'm not sure if youtube supports .ogg files or not. But I do know .avi works :)
[22:47] <dman> WhoNeedszzz: did you try to kill it?
[22:47] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: I've got that process there too.. very strange
[22:47] <WhoNeedszzz> LockesRabb, tilda just brings up a cmd prompt
[22:47] <magnetron> RazzoRz: you can find avidemux in applications > add/remove
[22:47] <WhoNeedszzz> dman, it is a root process
[22:47] <RazzoRz> xomp: i know that it don't due to the fact that i have yet to upload anything..
[22:47] <lollo> ok, i've another question ... someone can tell me if these files: initrd.img.old ; vmlinuz vmlinuz.old    can be removed without damage the whole system ?
[22:47] <RazzoRz> magnetron: Ty
[22:48] <LockesRabb> whoneedszzz yes, but i want to know how to make the prompt go away when im done with it
[22:48] <nagyv> hi! how can I connect from my phone to my laptop via bluetooth? I would like to send a file over to the computer. I could connect already with MultiSync, but my phone can't find the laptop.
[22:48] <K3nt21228> hello
[22:48] <WhoNeedszzz> LockesRabb, whatever the key is to bring it up
[22:48] <LockesRabb> whoneedszzz, whenever im done with it, i type exit, but then later when i want to use it again, i have to restart tilda
[22:48] <K3nt21228> i was hoping someone with C++ knowledge could help me out?
[22:48] <RazzoRz> magnetron: it don't seem to be there
[22:48] <dman> WhoNeedszzz: hmm
[22:48] <Slart> WhoNeedszzz: ah.. it's the xorg process.. I compared the process id's.. I have no idea why it translates it into X though... bad xfce.. bad bad xfce
[22:48] <WhoNeedszzz> dman, i have to go, will u be on in a couple hours?
[22:48] <dman> lollo: those are essential
[22:49] <LockesRabb> ahhh...
[22:49] <lollo> here UBUNTU question only .. !
[22:49] <bugspray> magnetron: WHAT a NICK! reminds me of either transformers or pokemon, but still...very cool
[22:49] <dman> WhoNeedszzz:  probably
[22:49] <quittt> hey, do you know how?
[22:49] <LockesRabb> thanks whoneedszzz
[22:49] <WhoNeedszzz> dman, ok thanks
[22:49] <quittt> how do I change console(terminal, without X) font???
[22:49] <xerxes1358> Hello
[22:49] <magnetron> bugspray: there are no transformer name magnetron
[22:49] <LockesRabb> whoneedszzz question, how do i change tilda preferences?
[22:49] <xerxes1358> I have a question about wine + VBA. I hear different stories. Does Office 2003 WITH support for VBA work or not? I need to write VBA code.
[22:49] <dman> WhoNeedszzz:  good luck. try a restart sometime, maybe?
[22:49] <lollo> ok so i mustn't remove them , thx dman .. are u sure ?
[22:49] <quittt> and how do I change my bootsplash screen?
[22:49] <dman> lollo: yeah, they are involed with booting
[22:49] <K3nto> im having a little trouble with some C++ code
[22:50] <lollo> okz :D
[22:50] <bugspray> magnetron: you should consider using a little more care in showing others your level of transformers knowledge
[22:50] <LockesRabb> whoneedszzz i figured it out, just had to right click on it
[22:50] <LockesRabb> thanks
[22:51] <magnetron> bugspray: ;) the transformer you are thinking of is named megatron. megatron != magnetron
[22:51] <|newbie|> ciao
[22:51] <dman> lollo: the vmlinuz in root is actually a symlink to a file in /boot
[22:51] <pablocpg> how can i solve the problem with my sound?
[22:51] <|newbie|> !list
[22:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:51] <RazzoRz> magnatron: is there a cmd in term that i can get avidemux?
[22:51] <pablocpg> i have read that a lot of people have had the same proble due the alc861
[22:51] <ADN69> Ello!
[22:51] <dman> ADN69: hey
[22:52] <bugspray> magnetron: okay. that seals it. you are a geek. or maybe a nerd. i don't know, but knowing that kind of stuff can get rocks thrown at you in some circles
[22:52] <pablocpg> but i don't know how to solve it
[22:52] <lollo> i see these files in " / " , is it normal dman ?
[22:52] <pablocpg> some body can help, is really bad be without sound
[22:52] <ADN69> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and i wanna know how can i install Beryl template...
[22:52] <lollo> lol pab
[22:52] <RazzoRz> magnetron: sorry for the misspelling ,,, is there a way to D/l it from Term  for avidemux
[22:52] <pablocpg> i can't hear even a beep system
[22:52] <EricBlair> i prefer 'nerd,' as in revenge of
[22:52] <ADN69> I have aquamarine-0.2.1
[22:52] <magnetron> RazzoRz: use the synaptic program and search for "avidemux"
[22:52] <dman> lollo: yeah, there should be a few. anything in there is not to be messed with. to be safe, only delete things in /home
[22:52] <pablocpg> please help me
[22:53] <lollo> ok dman you've been very wise
[22:53] <RazzoRz> magnetron: thats odd says its installed
[22:53] <lollo> thx !!!
[22:53] <dman> lollo: just a fellow ubuntu user =]
[22:54] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to force  Sound Juicer to use MP3 codec and ignoring preferences? Codec is installed
[22:54] <RazzoRz> magnetron: got it .. thanks
[22:54] <ADN69> or just an simple mirc version...not this xchat..
[22:54] <Blah> How do I go root in Ubuntu?
[22:54] <dman> Blah: why?
[22:54] <bugspray> Blah: try sudo su
[22:55] <jrib> !root > blah (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:55] <jrib> bugspray: please do not recommend that
[22:55] <Blah> dman: I need to shut down my firewall (shorewall) and su does not work
[22:55] <magnetron> bugspray: i never thought of transformers when choosing this nick, i chose it because of the electromagnetic meaning. then all i here on IRC "OMG U R MEGATRON TRANSFORMER" so i eventually learned that some ppl (like you) associate it with transformers.
[22:55] <dman> jrib: ditto. very dangerous...
[22:55] <kahrytan> !root | Blah
[22:55] <ubotu> Blah: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:56] <bugspray> Blah: note su -m to run graphical apps, too
[22:56] <jrib> Blah: how did you manage to install shorewall without knowing about root and sudo in ubuntu?
[22:56] <DRebellion> bugspray: Blah: actually, gksudo
[22:56] <magnetron> bugspray: i think YOU are the one with a too extensive Transformer and Pokémon knowledge
[22:56] <Some_Person> Can we run Mac programs on ubunut?
[22:56] <dman> Blah:  if you **really** need to log in as root,know the risks, and turn off your internet first. then search ubuntu forums for a tutorial.
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: I just sent off the latest upstreamdev log-modules to your email account.  PM me when you have looked them over.  Back later..
[22:56] <kahrytan> bugspray->  gksu ....
[22:56] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: cool, I will
[22:56] <lollo> well the last question: i've 3 partitions, 1 for linux and the other 2 for data storage ... These 2 partitions have the mount point in /media (as default) ... well, if i format Ubuntu i don't format these partitions i hope ..
[22:57] <dman> Some_Person:  not that i know of, but i suspect there is a workaround if you really need to.
[22:57] <pablocpg> somebody know about sound bugs?
[22:57] <bugspray> magnetron: okay... so you got me. damn! (/me peers about nervously) - that's not a bad thing, is it?
[22:57] <dman> lollo: not unless you specify to. the filesystem isn't an actual folder layout. it's something completely different
[22:57] <matthijs> JOIN ubuntu_motu
[22:58] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to force  Sound Juicer to use MP3 codec and ignoring preferences? Codec is installed
[22:58] <Blah> jrib: I just installed it, no problem there. Now I need to shut it down for some tests, and "etc/init.d/shorewall stop" doesn't work.
[22:58] <dman> lollo: just to be safe, tho, unplug them. it's worth the time for the peace of mind'
[22:58] <quittt> how do I change console's font and encoding?
[22:58] <magnetron> bugspray: not at all. /join #ubuntu-offtopic , i think you'll like it there
[22:58] <quittt> !font
[22:58] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[22:58] <jrib> Blah: k, read the link ubotu gave then
[22:58] <Blah> dman: Thanks, I will try that
[22:58] <Gibb> how do I unmount so I can run fsck properly to do a diskcheck?
[22:59] <jrib> quittt: did the command I suggested not work?
[22:59] <DRebellion> Gibb: umount /dev/<drive>
[22:59] <dman> Blah: np
[22:59] <Blah> jrib: Will do, thanks
[22:59] <quittt> jrib, I remember that there was a easy programme for that
[22:59] <Some_Person> dman: like?
[22:59] <Gibb> DRebellion: how do I find the drive names that are mounted?
[22:59] <dman> quittt: it's in ~/.bashrc look online for  a tut.
[22:59] <DRebellion> Gibb: df
[23:00] <dman> Some_Person:  i don't know any, but i **vaguely** remeber someone mentioning one. nothing else tho. sorry!
[23:00] <quittt> dman, I want to change the whole system
[23:00] <Gibb> DRebellion: thx
[23:01] <dman> quittt:  maybe /etc/bash.bashrc?
[23:01] <iari> Help: Does anyone know where I can get info about setting a VPN connection to a checkpoint Firewall ?
[23:01] <quittt> dman, no no
[23:01] <dman> quittt: definitely, yeah. but back it up before mods
[23:02] <dman> quittt: no?
[23:02] <lollo> ok dman i must unplug them , where should i put these units ?
[23:02] <quittt> dman, it is all the fonts of the console, including boot etc
[23:02] <josiah> when is hardy's release date?
[23:02] <quittt> I remember that I saw something like that
[23:02] <bardyr> iari, what VPN type?
[23:02] <dman> quittt: i don't know then, sorry
[23:02] <quittt> you choose your enconding, and fonts
[23:02] <dman> lollo: put what?
[23:02] <bardyr> joseaa, april
[23:02] <StrangeCharm> what's the command to list the disks available on my system?
[23:02] <jrib> quittt: ok, how about 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'?
[23:03] <jrib> StrangeCharm: sudo fdisk -l
[23:03] <dman> StrangeCharm:  df
[23:03] <tc> hi, i have a weird font bug with my gnome terminal, how can i post a link to a picture to show here?
[23:03] <lollo> the 2 partitions that i have in the folder /media , i must move them or i've understood bad ?
[23:03] <oem__> !flashissues
[23:03] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:03] <iari> bardyr: What do you mean type ? Until now I used Checkpoint's SecureClient on my Windows.
[23:03] <pablocpg> please helpme with the sound?
[23:03] <SpookyET> I'm having standby problems. I installed pm-utils. Did the grub menu.lst mkcpio. I cannot standbye from gnome. From the command line,it goes to sleep, but when it resumes, I get a blank screen.
[23:04] <iari> bardyr: I'm trying to connect to my office.
[23:04] <iari> bardyr: I use IKE Over TCP
[23:04] <paule118> aaaaaaaaa
[23:04] <plectru1> hello, how do i enable nm-applet etc. on my second screen?
[23:04] <StrangeCharm> thanks jrib
[23:05] <quittt> done =]
[23:05] <dman> lollo: the partitions should be okay, actyually. i thought you meant seperate disks. backup if you're going to reformat the ubuntu partition tho just in case
[23:05] <pablocpg> somebody can help me with sound bugs?
[23:05] <jrib> !sound > pablocpg (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:05] <pablocpg> jrib, where is that?
[23:06] <dman> plectru1:  can you just add another panel?
[23:06] <iari> bardyr: ?
[23:06] <jaggy> any console irc chats for ubuntu ?
[23:06] <jaggy> console= terminal *
[23:06] <quittt> jrib, that's it =]
[23:06] <ompaul> jaggy,  irssi
[23:06] <quittt> jrib, do you know how do change boot splash screen?
[23:06] <lollo> ok dman, so if i format ubuntu i don't format the other partitions ( 1 of that is in another HD ) ... that was my question .. :S
[23:06] <jrib> pablocpg: what client are you using?
[23:06] <jrib> !usplash > quittt (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:06] <pablocpg> jrib, ubuntu
[23:06] <bardyr> iari, install network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc and a VNC option will appear in the network manager, im not sure if it will work but its worth the try
[23:06] <jrib> jaggy: irssi, weechat, bitchx
[23:06] <jaggy> thnx
[23:07] <plectru1> dman: i have a seperat panel on my second screen, but it is missing the notifiers like nm-applet
[23:07] <jrib> pablocpg: what irc client to talk with me now?
[23:07] <pablocpg> jrib #ubuntu
[23:07] <jrib> !sound | pablocpg
[23:07] <ubotu> pablocpg: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:07] <iari> bardyr: Thanks, I'll give it a try.. :)
[23:09] <dman> plectru1: add the notification area
[23:10] <plectru1> dman: all the other applets are available and i do not find an option in gconf to activate nm-applet on the second screen
[23:10] <dman> lollo: you have to do it manually, not guided when you reinstall tho. otherwise it will wipe them. you have to specifically format just the ubuntu partition and not the others.
[23:11] <x-punk> how do I install google earth on 64 linux?
[23:11] <x-punk> fixes itself using the googleearthlinux.bin file?
[23:11] <dman> plectru1:  you can't just add the network monitor applet?
[23:11] <ubuntu> what's up
[23:12] <jrib> !medibuntu | x-punk
[23:12] <dman> ubuntulog: not much. you?
[23:12] <x-punk> jrib: adding their repos?
[23:12] <Zee> http://bux.to/?r=ZeeYPeeWee <<<--- visit / register . click on the links / and earn a lot of money, you may earn more than 300 USD / month, i did earn more !!! register now
[23:12] <jrib> x-punk: yeah, it's packaged in there
[23:12] <nemilar> !ops
[23:12] <jrib> nemilar: yes?
[23:12] <nemilar> Zee is spamming
[23:13] <nemilar> (see directly above)
[23:13] <plectru1> dmon: i can add the network monitor applet, but i need the nm-applet and the pidgin notifier...
[23:13] <jrib> nemilar: thanks
[23:13] <nemilar> thank you all powerful one
[23:13] <Codenut> I am running fiesty right now, is there a good reason to upgrade to gutsy
[23:13] <plectru1>  dman: i can add the network monitor applet, but i need the nm-applet and the pidgin notifier...
[23:13] <nemilar> jrib: just so I know, is the command ops or "op"
[23:13] <jrib> nemilar: you did it correctly, though both may work.  ubotu is just sleeping...
[23:14] <nemilar> oh true
[23:14] <nemilar> bots gotta rest, too, ya know
[23:14] <bardyr> Codenut, nice desktop effects and newer drivers, better hardware support, etc
[23:14] <dman> plectru1:  the notification area applet contains both of those. maybe it just won't replicate the icons twice? maybe it's a bug.
[23:14] <Codenut> Thanks bardyr
[23:14] <feierfox> hello
[23:14] <feierfox> i'm looking for a tool to find duplicatet-files and to auto-delete them
[23:14] <Codenut> I may do it.
[23:14] <alesan> !firewire
[23:15] <Codenut> I have heard that fiesty is better for my ham radio BBS software
[23:15] <Slart> Codenut: I'd say that upgrading to gutsy was worth it... I think the restricted drivers is new and compiz is not bolted on.. some people have had problems, luckily I'm not one of them
[23:15] <mkz> is there a way to determine the web server servicing a web site?  I'd like to know if a host is running apache
[23:15] <Codenut> I am running an AMD processor.
[23:15] <alesan> what is a program to watch output from a dv camera?
[23:15] <dman> Codenut: if there;s no really good reason, it's probably best to stick with what works =P
[23:15] <JordiGH> Yay!
[23:15] <JordiGH> synaptics touchpad works with .24 kernel.
[23:15] <dman> Codenut: bad things do happen...
[23:15] <nemilar> mkz: www.techthrob.com/tech/nmapfe.php
[23:15]  * ManarD- omg!!! terrorist planes strike NY again!! http://s2.gladiatus.ro/game/c.php?uid=53000
[23:15] <Slart> mkz: can't you check the server response? some developer tools for firefox?
[23:15] <bardyr> mkz, reqeust a page that does not exits
[23:15] <bardyr> mkz exists|
[23:16] <Codenut> Yes, bad things happen everywhere.
[23:16] <JordiGH> Still no sound, but at least now applications seem to believe that a sound card exists (probably something muted in a non-obvious way).
[23:16] <JordiGH> Compiz working, sorta, kinda.
[23:16] <jrib> mkz: netcraft is one way, telnet and some knowledge is probably another way
[23:16] <dman> see you all later. dinnertme here
[23:16] <dan__> Jack_Sparrow: you here?
[23:16] <EricBlair> no bad things in heaven
[23:16] <JordiGH> This is progress.
[23:16] <Codenut> I am new to linux (5 years) so I think I will wait until there is a have to rather than a why?
[23:16] <plectru1> dman: i do not need the notification area on my first screen, only on the second one. Is it not possible to change the screen id of the notification area to screen 2?
[23:17] <DjViper> Codenut: 5 years?
[23:17] <Slart> Codenut: try the LTS version coming out this spring, hardy...
[23:17] <EricBlair> new @ 5 yrs. i c.
[23:17] <mkz> thanks. I've got the webdeveloper addon installed in ff and sure enough checking the response header tells me the server type (among other things).  Thanks
[23:17] <Slart> mkz: you're welcome
[23:17] <bardyr> Codenut, well gutsy was a really nice improvement over feisty, but if everything is working theres no need
[23:17] <nemilar> Hardy isn't going to be out for a few months
[23:18] <DjViper> nemilar: 3
[23:18] <Codenut> Yep, started with Red hat 7.1 and have been confuzed ever since.
[23:18] <DjViper> Codenut: hehe
[23:18]  * Slart gets confused by windows these days
[23:18] <nemilar> DjViper: just under, actually ;)
[23:19] <DjViper> nemilar: with downloadtimes at lauch... that dead on :P
[23:19] <DjViper> +s
[23:19] <mkz> .part
[23:19] <nemilar> lol
[23:19] <Codenut> Still studying the zen of the file structure. There is stuff EVERYWHERE!!!!
[23:19] <nemilar> DjViper: scheduled release date is the 24th
[23:19] <jrib> Codenut: FHS is your friend
[23:19] <DjViper> Codenut: yeah, unlike in windows where all the 'folders' are empty ;)
[23:19] <Codenut> And then the sticky bit..........................
[23:20] <nemilar> <3 the sticky bit
[23:20] <DjViper> Codenut: there are lots of 'cheatsheets' on the web about the dir-structure
[23:20] <Codenut> Really?
[23:20] <Codenut> How would I google?
[23:20] <nemilar> Unix Filesystem Structure ?
[23:20] <DjViper> _I_ for one would not mind seeing a change in the dir-structure tho... there is a lot of backwards stuff there
[23:21] <EricBlair> googles easy, imo
[23:21] <Codenut> Thanks, I will google that thanks.
[23:21] <Codenut> I gotta go eat!!! Ta!
[23:21] <ramsesx> salu
[23:21] <Codenut> salut
[23:22] <andrey> i installed ubuntu gusty on my HP dv6255, but the pen-drive is not working. someone can help me?
[23:24] <lollo> dman thx a lot! good night everyone !
[23:24] <drunkmuppets> Ok, I am running xubuntu, with LAMP on VMWare, and I am trying to access my webserver. However I am behind a router, and an "ip address" gives me a 192.168 Is there any way to make this work?
[23:24] <usr13_> andrey: Have you done updates yet?
[23:24] <andrey> no
[23:24] <phroughy> join ##php
[23:25] <phroughy> (sorry)
[23:25] <usr13_> drunkmuppets: yes, IP forwarding throu the router.
[23:25] <drunkmuppets> Alright, I hope my dd-wrt micro has it.
[23:25] <linchapulin> Trying to get kde4 working..it installed, but complains when starting it is missing a binary?
[23:25] <feierfox> give me anyone a reason to change back to GNOME :/
[23:25]  * Pelo is bored
[23:25] <sulle> how do i fund out what wifi card i have?
[23:26] <usr13_> sulle: lspci
[23:26] <Pelo> sulle, check the comp's manual
[23:26] <sulle> Pelo: dont have it :P
[23:26] <bbc> hello
[23:26] <nemilar> hola
[23:26] <Pelo> sulle, , asl usr13_  said lspci or you can also check the comp's maker's website
[23:26] <andrey> usr13_ i must do it?
[23:26] <Pelo> !es | nemilar
[23:26] <ubot3> nemilar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:26] <nemilar> haha
[23:26] <usr13_> andrey: Ues
[23:26] <nemilar> I'm a native english speaker
[23:27] <Pelo> nemilar, sorry , just reflex
[23:27] <andrey> usr13_ ok, i ll try
[23:27] <sybariten_2> what is GNU Screen called in apt?
[23:27] <sybariten_2> i need to install it
[23:27] <sybariten_2> baaadly
[23:27] <usr13_> sybariten_2: GUN Screen?
[23:27] <drunkmuppets> user13_ | When you say ip forwarding you don't mean port forwarding correct?
[23:27] <Juhaz> screen, what else?
[23:27] <sybariten_2> usr13_: naaah, why would they call it GUN ??
[23:27] <sybariten_2> ;)
[23:27] <Pelo> sybariten_2, gnu screen ?
[23:28] <bbc> I want to install Kdevelop can I install on GNOME?
[23:28] <Pelo> sybariten_2, what do you mean xserver ?
[23:28] <andrey> \nickserv help
[23:28] <DjViper> bbc: yes
[23:28] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: synaptic
[23:28] <usr13_> sybariten_2: Just another way of saying open source software.
[23:28] <sybariten_2> usr13_:, Pelo : i did apt-cache search screen  .... spit out a lot ... then i grepped for GNU and gnu .....
[23:28] <bbc> DjViper: how?
[23:28] <linchapulin> Pelo is it true you have hair? ^^
[23:28] <sybariten_2> but i didnt see it
[23:28] <DjViper> bbc: apt-get install kdevelop
[23:28] <Pelo> bbc, yes , do it trought synaptic, the appropirate qt libs will get installed as well
[23:28] <Pelo> linchapulin, all over
[23:29] <SexyJames1337> hi there everyone
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: You mean the GUI for Apt I belive. There are two: Synaptic (gnome) and Adept (KDE)
[23:29] <Shadow6363> hi, im using gutsy and have a motherboard sata raid setup, how do i get it to work in ubuntu?
[23:29] <Pelo> sybariten_2, , try using synaptic, you'll get a much more friendly listing
[23:29] <jimat> !libhal
[23:29] <bbc> I did the same, but it needs some KDE library I think
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> !hi | SexyJames1337
[23:29] <ubot3> Factoid libhal not found
[23:29] <ubot3> SexyJames1337: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:29] <tc> hi, i have a weird font bug with gnome-terminal: Mono 9 displays nice in font selector but the letters are all squeezed when terminal updates;
[23:29] <tc> http://images3.hiboox.com/images/0508/euev4y2l.png
[23:29] <sybariten_2> Pelo: headless machine
[23:29] <sybariten_2> syntaxerror55: huh?
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> tc: Wow
[23:30] <mikegriffin> i am trying to resolve a dep for libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.2; i tried installing libxml2-utils libxml2-dev libxml2 with no luck on gutsy.. any advice?
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: what do you mean by the GNU for Apt. :|
[23:30] <Pelo> sybariten_2, , what does gne screen do anyway,  I'll try to find you tghe correct package name
[23:30] <SexyJames1337> my brother's Windows is corrupted... i was considering installing ubuntu so he can use that instead. but ive never used linux. :P do you think we'd be able to work it out after a bit of practice?
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> mikegriffin: what are you trying to install
[23:30] <sybariten_2> this is so odd, i was totally sure it was either 1) installed from the beginning, or 2) called 'GNU Screen' in apt
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: Yes.
[23:30] <Slart> SexyJames1337: yes..
[23:30] <nemilar> SexyJames1337: takes some getting used to, but yeah
[23:30] <SexyJames1337> cool
[23:30] <usr13_> front-end for apt is Synaptic Package Manager.
[23:30] <sybariten_2> syntaxerror55: huh... hmm i never wrote that... some misunderstanding somewhere perhaps
[23:31] <Slart> SexyJames1337: we won't be able to cure whatever made you chose that nickname though.. you're on your own there ;)
[23:31] <SexyJames1337> well ive made the cd ready, so i'll try it out tomorrow. i'll come back here if i need any help ;) is the installation fairly straight forward?
[23:31] <EricBlair> lol
[23:31] <mikegriffin> syntaxerror55: svn co of mysql workbench
[23:31] <overclucker> tc: what does mono 8 give you?
[23:31] <SexyJames1337> haha, the name is kinda a joke
[23:31] <sybariten_2> Pelo: uhm, its like a "windows manager" but for console ... you get something like...  like subshells
[23:31] <tc> syntaxerror: it looks like it's linked to font resolution too... changing its value changes the font sizes which bug
[23:31] <Pelo> tc, looks to me like the spacing is off,  try restarting the terminal  it migth get corrected or try a bigger font like 10
[23:31] <mikegriffin> syntaxerror55: it appears i have resolved all other deps
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: <sybariten_2> what is GNU Screen called in apt?
[23:31] <EricBlair> is it his brother's?
[23:31] <Slart> SexyJames1337: the only thing people tend to ask questions about is the partitioning
[23:31] <SexyJames1337> oh right
[23:32] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: I'd say to wipe Windows as it is corrupted
[23:32] <Pelo> sybariten_2, screenie  a small and lightweight GNU screen(1) wrapper
[23:32] <SexyJames1337> well i can't dual boot cos I'm not able to reinstall xp, so i just select use whole drive? or is it more complex than that?
[23:32] <Pelo> sybariten_2, is that it ?
[23:32] <sybariten_2> Pelo: shells that run in the background, or console instances...   you can run ICQ or IRC there for instance, then you can detach, from the shell....  and the IRC or ICQ client keeps running in that shell/screen
[23:32] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: and just have Ubuntu take the whole drive.
[23:32] <Slart> SexyJames1337: I'd say use one big partition the first time... if you want you can change it later
[23:32] <SexyJames1337> ok cool
[23:32] <tc> restarting terminal doesnt fix
[23:32] <sybariten_2> Pelo: yep, thats a helper app, i found that one too... i've even used it in the past
[23:32] <tc> 8 looks bad too
[23:32] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: Yeah, the Live CD will guide you through it. It's easier then an XP Install(TM)
[23:32] <sybariten_2> Pelo: (but as i said, itst just a helper app, for Screen...)
[23:33] <Pelo> sybariten_2, ratpoison , keyboard-only window manager
[23:33] <SexyJames1337> we have xp recovery discs, but have lost them. if we want to reinstall in the future should they be able to overwrite over ubuntu easily? thats if he's bothered about going back to windows...
[23:33] <sybariten_2> syntaxerror55: that question meant "what is the correct package name for Screen"
[23:33] <sybariten_2> Pelo: close, but no cigar....
[23:33] <Slart> SexyJames1337: yes.. you can easily install something else over ubuntu.. it won't leave stains
[23:33] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: ahhh...misunderstanding, I thought you wanted a "GNU Screen" (GUI) for using Apt
[23:33] <SexyJames1337> nice. sorry, i play games and have a reasonably good pc but im not actually an expert at much tbh
[23:34] <sybariten_2> pelo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[23:34] <sybariten_2> syntaxerror55: ahhh... ok, no. "Screen" is just a name.
[23:34] <Pelo> sybariten_2, that's all I can find in the repos that matches your request
[23:34] <BodOmLaW> do you know if my logitech usb headset will work in ubuntu?
[23:34] <SexyJames1337> ok, thanks for your help, i'll try it out tomorrow.
[23:34] <sybariten_2> Pelo: yeah, me too. This is so odd. This is a very widespread and "standard" unix tool
[23:34] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: some games won't work without Wine or Cedega, and even then some may not work
[23:35] <overclucker> !screen
[23:35] <SexyJames1337> yeh im not playing games on the ubuntu pc, that's just my brothers. i have my own with Vista :P
[23:35] <ubot3> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[23:35] <Gun_Smoke> who wrote the bot line for root?
[23:35] <BodOmLaW> vista shouldnt be used for games either
[23:35] <syntaxerror55> sybariten_2: ah. I thought your english was just bad
[23:35] <Slart> syntaxerror55: I'd say some games work with wine/cedega.. and even some of those work badly =)
[23:35] <SexyJames1337> lol im guessing Vista is a dirty word around here
[23:35] <BodOmLaW> Vista=Bad
[23:35] <syntaxerror55> !vista | SexyJames1337
[23:35] <Pelo> sybariten_2, I have screen  a monjtor multiplexer fowith terminal emulation via vt100/ansi
[23:35] <ubot3> SexyJames1337: vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[23:35] <SexyJames1337> it doesnt work that badly for me at all :D
[23:35] <SexyJames1337> its just no better than xp
[23:35] <SexyJames1337> in any way
[23:36] <BodOmLaW> lol
[23:36] <Gun_Smoke> I assume it was written for noobs right.. And not actually trying to be truthful?
[23:36] <BodOmLaW> xp is the best windows at the moment
[23:36] <BodOmLaW> stable for games
[23:36] <sybariten_2> Pelo: there it is
[23:36] <BodOmLaW> deosnt was to much resourses
[23:36] <Slart> BodOmLaW: vista is just another os.. try to keep emotions out of it
[23:36] <BodOmLaW> i keep my emotions out
[23:36] <Pelo> sybariten_2, it's installed by default,  alt-f2 to f7 to switch between terminals
[23:36] <mikegriffin> syntaxerror55: http://pastebin.ca/886847
[23:36] <sybariten_2> syntaxerror55: heh... no dude...    aint nuthin bad with that there english of mine
[23:36] <SexyJames1337> ive heard of a lot of people having vista problems... i guess ive been lucky cos I haven't really had any
[23:37] <BodOmLaW> all it is is a gimiks
[23:37] <BodOmLaW> anyways
[23:37] <BodOmLaW> do you know if my logitech usb headset will work in ubuntu?
[23:37] <achilles> hi, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 dvd once installed all i got was a base installation how do i install the rest of the software that comes with the dvd? thanks
[23:37] <neverblue> BodOmLaW, probably
[23:37] <Slart> SexyJames1337: after a week here you'll have heard lots of people having problems with ubuntu.. we do try to help them all though =)
[23:37] <BodOmLaW> kk thanks
[23:37] <Pelo> achilles, menu > applications > add remove
[23:37] <xGeek> Vista has been good to me. The service pack fixed a lot of bugs on my home system however I've seen a lot of strange problems on clients computers.
[23:37] <achilles> thanks pelo:)
[23:37] <MasterShrek> xGeek, vista sp1 is out now?
[23:38] <SexyJames1337> I haven't bothered dling the SP1 beta. think i'll wait
[23:38] <Slart> !ot
[23:38] <MasterShrek> oh beta
[23:38] <neverblue> achilles, the Ubuntu guide is great help, try googling 'ubuntu guide' it helps with package selection
[23:38] <achilles> OK:)
[23:38] <Slart> ubotu?.. sleeping on the job?
[23:38] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: Vista is like any other operating system, except it has bugs and viruses, and half the RAM is to monitor if you're pirating software or music. That's why we hate it.
[23:38] <iari> Is there a way to run a windows emulator under Ubuntu? if I want to connect to a Checkpoint? or run a windows' only software ...
[23:38] <achilles> hey isnt windows always beta? XD
[23:38] <syntaxerror55> Slart: Agh
[23:38] <_b_> ubotu is a bad person
[23:38] <jlulian38> How do you view information on your alsa configuration?
[23:38] <SexyJames1337> i see what you mean syntaxerror
[23:38] <Slart> iari: there's wine.. or virtualbox.. or qemu
[23:38] <sybariten_2> Pelo: well, it wasnt installed here, dont know why... its a fresh but lightweithgt ubuntu install... and i found the package and installed it, it was just called 'screen' so i dont know what i was thinking, sorry to bother
[23:39] <Pelo> achilles, and btw that's not even close to what you can get from the repos, those aer just the universe and  main repos,   goto , menu < system< sotware sources,  check all the boxes on the firts tab and the backport box on the third tab , the reload
[23:39] <sybariten_2> pelo: it was easier when i grepped for "multiplex"
[23:39] <neverblue> iari, Wine will allow you to run Windows software in linux, try asking about it in #winehq
[23:39] <iari> Slart: Which one would you recommend   ?
[23:39] <achilles> pelo thanks since i dont have an active connection i got the dvd instead of the cd:)
[23:39] <soldats> Slart, apparently ubotu will be away for a while but ubot3 is here but probly a little slower
[23:39] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: seriously, try Ubuntu, and you'll fall in love to the point where you'll put it on your computer. :D
[23:39] <Pelo> sybariten_2, no bother, your query got me to research wsometing I wasn't familiar with ,  I learned something
[23:39] <Slart> iari: depends on what you're going to use it for... what kind of software?
[23:39] <iari> neverblue: Thanks
[23:39] <SexyJames1337> haha.
[23:40] <sybariten_2> Pelo: (BTW, try it... there are small tutorials... once you learn it, and if you do some SSH work on occasion, its super duper practical)
[23:40] <Slart> soldats: oh... so we got a temp =)
[23:40] <iari> Slart: Checkpoint VPN, some Trading platforms
[23:40] <Pelo> achilles, well take note of this link then  it will get you more packages if you need them that you can dl and install from a usb drive and such,    www.getdeb.net
[23:40] <soldats> yep
[23:40] <neverblue> sybariten_2, what is ?
[23:40] <SexyJames1337> i have used knoppix a little (the one you boot off cd) I used it to transfer all my bros files onto an external hd after his windows corrupted
[23:40] <sybariten_2> neverblue: google GNU screen
[23:40] <Pelo> sybariten_2, I'm just a basic home user atm,  but i'll keep it in mind
[23:40] <Shadow6363> anyone know anything about using hardware raid in gutsy?
[23:40] <sybariten_2> Pelo: ok
[23:41] <Slart> iari: start with wine.. it's a lot easier on the hardware.. software runs faster.. virtualbox, qemu and the other emulate a full windows machine... which means it'll be a lot slower
[23:41] <achilles> pelo wow awesome i will use this alot:)
[23:41] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: You can also boot Ubuntu from CD to try it. And, god, why did you choose that name?
[23:41] <neverblue> !raid | Shadow6363
[23:41] <ubotwo> Shadow6363: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[23:41] <Shadow6363> thank you neverblue
[23:41] <syntaxerror55> Where are the .deb files stored in 6.06?
[23:41] <iari> Slart: Thanks!
[23:41] <Slart> iari: you're welcome
[23:41] <SexyJames1337> :D I don't use it anymore, my new nickname is KKSlider1337, i was a big fan of animal crossing...
[23:42] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: try -1337
[23:42] <overclucker> achilles: if you have the install dvd in, some packages won't have to be downloaded from the repos, when you install them
[23:42] <necrotic> I'm having trouble with my secondary video card. Xorg recognizes it and I can "use" it, but the screen is very very dark. I've done lots of searching around and haven't found anything about it. The card is an nVidia 6100 built into my motherboard, the primary is an FX 5500 (PCI).
[23:42] <Pelo> syntaxerror55, /var/cache or further down
[23:42] <mikegriffin> syntaxerror55: /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[23:42] <Pelo> syntaxerror55, /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:42] <achilles> have a good day guys:)
[23:43] <SexyJames1337> ah, its the leet bit that bothers you. I've got used to using it on nicknames, as if a nickname is taken when i register somewhere i just add it onto the end...
[23:43] <syntaxerror55> Pelo: mikael79_: Thanks. I forgot
[23:43] <mikegriffin> http://pastebin.ca/886847 guesses anyone?
[23:43] <drunkmuppet> i know this isn't an ubuntu question but. I just tried to forward my ip in my dd-wrt using DMZ and now I cant get back into my router. Any ideas
[23:43] <neverblue> necrotic, its not the monitor ?
[23:43] <Pelo> mikegriffin, how about a description of the problem
[23:43] <Guest61793> http://bux.to/?r=ezis15
[23:43] <neverblue> drunkmuppet, try in #networking
[23:44] <drunkmuppet> thanks :D
[23:44] <necrotic> neverblue: nope. I can use it under windows fine.
[23:44] <mikegriffin> Pelo: i can repost it
[23:44] <Slart> !ops | Guest61793:
[23:44] <mikegriffin> i am trying to resolve a dep for libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.2; i tried installing libxml2-utils libxml2-dev libxml2 with no luck on gutsy.. any advice?
[23:44] <ubotwo> Guest61793:: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger for emergencies) Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow
[23:44] <Slart> oops.. sorry.. no emergency..
[23:44] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: it's really your choice, but I'd use different numbers.
[23:44] <Pelo> mikegriffin, go in synaptic look for libxml or what ever,  and also install the related -dev package
[23:44] <Slart> but he does need a boot somewhere =)
[23:44] <mikegriffin> i did that
[23:44] <neverblue> necrotic, so the cards are which type ?
[23:45] <SexyJames1337> what would you suggest? It's just become a habit now... the 1337 isn't serious, more of a joke
[23:45] <necrotic> neverblue: Primary is an nvida FX 5500, secondary is a 6100 (onboard)
[23:45] <Pelo> mikegriffin, go into synaptic and c heck what is installed, install everyting with libxml if you have to
[23:45] <neverblue> Pelo, sorry, whats the command to config your video card again ? alsways slips my mind
[23:45] <SexyJames1337> oh and about using the cd just to try ubuntu syntax, how do i do that?
[23:45] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: 00, last two numbers of your birthyday, the line number where an annoying bug was on (mine)
[23:45] <mikegriffin> Pelo: that is a really long list of packages, thanks anyway
[23:45] <Pelo> neverblue, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:45] <neverblue> necrotic, so both nvidia, have you tried to edit your xorg.conf manually ?
[23:45] <neverblue> Pelo thanks
[23:46] <necrotic> neverblue: yes
[23:46] <neverblue> necrotic, also try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:46] <Pelo> mikegriffin, stuff with libxml in the name , not the descrition
[23:46] <necrotic> i even tried using just the primary, no luck
[23:46] <neverblue> necrotic, using onboard as the primary?
[23:46] <mdmkolbe|work> I keep loosing sound when firefox crashes.  Is there a way to restart the sound system without rebooting the machine? (I've got apps running I'd rather not have to save/restart.) This is on ubunty 7.10.
[23:46] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: There's an option when you put it in and the computer boots it.
[23:46] <necrotic> neverblue: not right now im not, but i did try that
[23:46] <SexyJames1337> ah, useful
[23:46] <Pelo> necrotic, run the reconfigure command again and  select the vesa driver,  that will at least get you back a gui
[23:46] <Shadow6363> exit
[23:46] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: when you get the CD, trust me, all this will become very clear
[23:46] <mikegriffin> Pelo: $ apt-cache search libxml | awk '{print $1}' | grep libxml | wc -l = 100
[23:47] <Shadow6363> woops
[23:47] <neverblue> necrotic, maybe you xorg.conf isnt setup at the corect refresh rate, etc... maybe the reconfig will help
[23:47] <Pelo> mikegriffin, do you have a gui ?  use synaptic to search for libxml
[23:47] <SexyJames1337> ok cool. also, seeing as I am a noob to irc as well, how do you reply to a person like you are replying to me? is there an easier way than typing it out?
[23:47] <soldats> sudo /etc/init.d/alsamixer restart
[23:47] <necrotic> Pelo: I have a gui on my primary screen. Using it right now without problems.
[23:47] <xzedn> does anyone else have monitor problems with gutsy?
[23:47] <soldats> SexyJames1337, type part of the name then press tab
[23:47] <syntaxerror55> soldats: in the command line
[23:48] <mikegriffin> Pelo: how is that different than what i just posted?
[23:48] <dougemd> hello, I just switched over to Ubuntu. I'm having a problem with the eye candy in compiz...I guess its under appearances in the provided GUI. I have the latest ATI proprietary drivers installed and I have my xorg.conf set to a 1 for composite. I also have AIGLX set to "off"
[23:48] <hell_> hi all
[23:48] <soldats> syntaxerror55, huh
[23:48] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: thanks. useful to know :)
[23:48] <Pelo> mikegriffin, sudo apt-get install libxml++2.6-dev libxml2-dev
[23:48] <dman> dougemd: and you're problem is...
[23:48] <dougemd> compiz said it couldn't find the driver still though
[23:48] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: :D you figured it out
[23:48] <Pelo> mikegriffin, easier to make sense of
[23:48] <hell_> how can i start the gnome-terminal every time full screen in gnome?
[23:48] <dougemd> well appearance said that
[23:48] <mikegriffin> Pelo: those are c++ binding i though
[23:49] <mikegriffin> but i will try
[23:49] <syntaxerror55> dougemd: #compiz-fusion
[23:49] <dougemd> syntaxerro: thanks
[23:49] <Pelo> mikegriffin, there is also a libxmltok1-dev
[23:49] <drunkmuppet> neverblue | any other networking channels?
[23:49] <[0x90]> hello there. anyone here installed icedata500 usb modem on ubuntu 7.10?
[23:50] <neverblue> drunkmuppet, if you be patient, im sure they will get to you
[23:50] <Pelo> mikegriffin, I'm just feeding you package names  that might fit the requirements for dependencies
[23:50] <mikegriffin> Pelo: tok was it, thanks
[23:50]  * Pelo does a little dance 
[23:50] <mikegriffin> Pelo: i was unaware of said tokenizer
[23:50] <soldats> mdmkolbe|work, try /etc/init.d/alsamixer restart
[23:51] <soldats> mdmkolbe|work, err with sudo in fron tof ot
[23:52] <iari> Slart: Do you have a min. to instruct me how to install new software under wine ?
[23:52] <dimas_> anybody know what could be wrong in wine if no software start? maybe something basic?
[23:52] <mdmkolbe|work> soldats: I have no /etc/init.d/alsamixer.  Did you mean /usr/bin/alsamixer or /etc/init.d/alsa-utils?
[23:52] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: Well, goodnight and thanks for your help. I may be back tomorrow
[23:52] <dougemd> does anyone have an ATI radeon 9600 running compiz correctly?
[23:53] <Jangari> how can i mount an ssh server to a point in my file tree?
[23:53] <Pelo> iari, just run the installer with wine
[23:53] <soldats> mdmkolbe|work, hmm it might be alsa-utils
[23:53] <wyseur> anybody has an idea how to solve this : ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received, but NodeID invalid
[23:53] <bruenig> alsa-utils just saves and restores alsa levels
[23:53] <dimas_> whats up pelo
[23:53] <bruenig> it is a faux daemon
[23:53] <soldierboy> Hello all, I just installed KDE4 and when I try to logon I get the following: 'startkde: Could not start D-Bus. Check your installation.'
[23:53] <wyseur> I think its the cause of problem, I can't mount a firewire HD
[23:53] <Pelo> good evening dimas_  my blood pressure
[23:53] <bruenig> alsa itself is a kernel thing
[23:54] <jrib> Jangari: sshfs
[23:54] <Pelo> soldierboy, try asking in #kde
[23:54] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: ok, bye.
[23:54] <dimas_> jejeje are you getting old pelo?
[23:54] <Pelo> dimas_, everyday
[23:54] <Pelo> soldierboy, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:54] <soldats> bruenig, well i totally forgot the command to restart alsa via cli. i remember something like that to tell mdmkolbe|work to fix his problem
[23:54] <soldierboy> pelo: i did, no responses there
[23:55] <Pelo> soldierboy, #kubuntu may also be an option but remember that not all channels are as well attended as this one, patience is required
[23:55] <Pelo> soldierboy, also try googling the error msg
[23:55] <bruenig> restarting alsa would include modprobing stuff I would have to think
[23:55] <soldierboy> Pelo: thanks, I'll try kubuntu
[23:55] <Jangari> just saw that, jrib, checkin' it out now
[23:56] <dimas_> does anyone know if perhaps something basic i am doing wrong if i can install the softwares properly but they dont start after whores?
[23:56] <jrib> dimas_: ummm... what?
[23:56] <Pelo> dimas_, what software ?
[23:56] <dimas_> jrib  talking about wine
[23:56] <dimas_> sorry
[23:56] <jrib> dimas_: "whores"?
[23:56] <Pelo> dimas_, what command line are you using to start it ?
[23:57] <Pelo> jrib, wait until you are older
[23:57] <jrib> heh
[23:57] <drunkmuppets> Ok is there any other networking channels. ##networking is dead and im in a jam.
[23:57] <Pelo> drunkmuppets,  what is the issue ?
[23:58] <dimas_> there is a shortcut from application and the shortcut from the desktop
[23:58] <drunkmuppets> I tried to set DMZ in my dd-wrt linksys, and now I can't get back to 192.168.0.1
[23:58] <Pelo> dimas_, check the shortcut properties and paste the command line here
[23:58] <drunkmuppets> internet still works, router is functional. Just can't get to cp
[23:59] <kahrytan>  What is with the Flash9 Deb file?
[23:59] <jrib> !flash > kahrytan (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:59] <nemilar> flash is soooo broken it's not even funny
[23:59] <bbc> is there any way to install Kdevelop on GNOME?
[23:59] <LjL> bbc: sure, sudo apt-get install kdevelop.
[23:59] <kahrytan> jrib->  the deb in rpeo is broken
[23:59] <kahrytan> *repo
[23:59] <bruenig> !info kdevelop
[23:59] <dimas_> pelo:env WINEPREFIX="/home/dimas/.wine" wine "C:\ARCH~KTD\Jhoos\UNWISE.EXE" /W2 "C:\Archivos de programa\Jhoos\INSTALL.LOG"
[23:59] <nemilar> bbc: yeah, you can install kde apps in gnome, they work fine