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ubotuNew bug: #187897 in malone "Searching for subscriber in personal bugs lists far too many bugs (without match!)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18789700:31
leonellaunchpad uses storm  and ??  zope ?  django  ? mod-python ? twisted ?    Is there a framework that was used for launchpad development or was from scratch ?01:41
kikozope3 and sqlobject, moving to storm 01:50
leonelthanks kiko  I'm starting a project and  I like the rock solid  launchpad  works  and wanted to know the framework  and yes I'll use storm   I think zope is too big  for me01:52
ubotuNew bug: #187915 in blueprint "No way to remove feedback requests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18791501:55
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jelmeruhm, how do I close a milestone these days?02:52
jelmerchange details used to have a checkbox02:52
jelmerbut it's no longer there02:52
emgenthello there, in #ubuntu-hardened is avaiable a bot (nick ubuSecurity) that paste in realtime CVE advisory, bugtraq advisory and milw0rm POC. if someone is interested please join. :)02:55
musashiI think an admin needs to address this issue soon. I posted a question on launchpad but it hasn't been addressed and this user is getting out of hand. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2361803:09
Fujitsukiko: ^^03:10
FujitsuHe's been spamming a lot, please at least kill his account now.03:10
Fujitsumusashi: Have you asked a question on the Answers tracker?03:11
musashiFujitsu, yes03:27
musashihttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2358803:28
thumpermusashi: kiko will no doubt look at this when he's awake03:38
musashithumper, okay. i'm wondering if i should mark that "question" invalid or leave it for an admin03:46
thumpermusashi: either is fine I guess03:46
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carlosmorning08:25
coolbhaviHello..09:19
coolbhaviTake a look at this09:19
coolbhavihttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2362309:20
coolbhavihttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2358809:21
coolbhavianyone listening09:22
coolbhavi?09:22
Hobbseeno09:22
coolbhaviPlease take a look09:23
Hobbseecoolbhavi: i'm not a LP admin.09:24
Hobbseecoolbhavi: and are they more important than the other LP questions?09:24
Hobbseeoh yes, that guy09:24
coolbhaviabusive language09:24
coolbhavihttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2361809:24
Hobbseethere's already a ticket for that too, filed by someoen else, iirc09:24
Hobbseekiko: ongoing ping, for when you wake up09:25
coolbhavialso this^^^ Hobbesee09:25
Hobbseecoolbhavi: please learn about <tab>09:25
Hobbseeand nick completion09:25
Hobbseeyes, it's likely all of https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~mhc779109:26
coolbhaviI m sorry Hobbsee09:26
coolbhaviWhere can I report? Its irritating09:27
Hobbseeon answers.  where you and someone else did.09:27
coolbhaviOk.. To curtis perhaps09:28
coolbhavicarlos can you help me09:29
Hobbseecoolbhavi: no, he's not a LP admin.09:29
carloscoolbhavi: what's the problem?09:30
Hobbseecoolbhavi: SteveA and kiko are the only lp admins.09:30
carloscoolbhavi: if you need an admin, Hobbsee is right, I have limited permissions09:30
coolbhaviOk.. I ll ping09:30
coolbhaviping kiko09:30
* Hobbsee suggests that they already got pinged by my text above.09:31
coolbhaviOk09:31
kikoyeah09:47
kikoI was hoping nobody would tease him and he would just go away09:48
coolbhavino its irritating09:49
kikosigh09:49
coolbhaviusing abusive language09:49
kikoyeah, but the way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. if fed they grow09:50
kikoanyway let me see what we can do09:50
coolbhaviAt least you must have some minimal respect for human beings right?09:50
Hobbseekiko: going to see if you can do with this what you did with the last one?  :)09:51
kikoHobbsee, hmmm, do you think I should?09:51
Hobbseekiko: you can try - but i don't think it'll work09:51
Hobbseemind you, i didn't think the last one would either09:51
kikoyeah. I'm concerned if I do and he turns sour09:52
Hobbseeyeah09:52
kikothe funny thing is that the first questions he posted were genuine problems he was having09:52
kikoat some point he got lost09:52
kikoI guess I'll email him. what's his name?09:53
kiko@#@! loser09:53
Hobbseedid you find it?09:53
coolbhavibut are you saying usage of abusive language should be on?09:53
Hobbseeor he doesn't have an e;mail registered?09:53
Hobbseecoolbhavi: no, but he's goign to try the catalyst approach first09:53
coolbhaviOk09:54
kikoO_o09:54
Hobbseekiko: what?09:54
kikojust surprised at how little coolbhavi and me are communicating :)09:55
coolbhavior is my report not too serious?...:)09:55
coolbhavikiko09:55
Hobbseecoolbhavi: have you heard of the catalyst approach?09:55
coolbhaviNo details please09:56
Hobbseecoolbhavi: http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml09:56
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* Hobbsee waves to thegodfather09:56
kikowrote to the penishead10:00
kikonow let's see what happens10:00
Hobbseeheh10:00
BleSShow to delete a project?10:12
Hobbseemorning mrevell 10:13
mrevellHey hey Hobbsee, Howdy all Launchpadders10:13
mrevellHobbsee: How's your server?10:13
Hobbseemrevell: back to it's rightful configuration :P10:14
mrevellHobbsee: Great :)10:21
mrevelljtv: No problem re meeting. Having trouble with connection, hence answering here.10:22
jtvmrevell: ack thx10:22
coolbhaviHow to delete a project in LP?10:57
kikocoolbhavi, you request it via answers above10:59
kikosee /topic11:00
mptGoooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:02
ubotuNew bug: #187994 in update-manager "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18799411:21
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ffedh12:22
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ubotuNew bug: #188015 in malone "GUI crashes while activating/changing destop effects (Ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18801512:25
ubotuNew bug: #188020 in malone "upstream bug report's total line misrenders native tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18802012:50
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mptHmm, the bug-reporting form is wonky13:51
mpt"(Optional)" is in the wrong place13:51
mptah, that's just in the advanced form13:51
ubotuNew bug: #188035 in malone "Probe unknown and ambiguous external bug trackers for their type" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18803514:00
ffedhellooo, im trying to create an official CD mirror for Ubuntu releases in Denmark.... But no matter what I do i cannot get the mirror listed as an oficial mirror... does anyone have a clue of what im doing wrong here...14:12
kikoffed, nothing. mirrors are approved by an admin after they are verified. salgado can tell you more about it, or ask a question (see topic)14:13
ffedmy mirror link for launchpad.net is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.u-soft.dk-release14:13
ffedsalgado: can u take a look at my registration, it seems to be screwe up - maybe i did it :(14:15
salgadoffed, screwed up? why?14:15
ubotuNew bug: #188041 in malone "AssertionError at /distribution/distroseries/+filebug-advanced" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18804114:15
ffedsalgado: i registered the mirror as an official danish ubuntu mirror the 19th of january, but it has√łnt come up on any lists yet... and is still in "ufocial state"14:16
salgadoffed, it looks okay to me. we only need someone to review and approve it14:16
ffedsalgado: i made en second registration of the mirror, can you delete that ? i thought it was my registration that went wrong...14:17
salgadoffed, have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/Mirroring ?14:18
salgadoffed, what's the second one?14:19
ffedto secs...14:19
ffedhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.u-soft.dk-release214:20
salgadoffed, deleted14:21
ffedsalgado: thanx ...14:23
ffedsalgado: i have read the link and I did send an email to the address.... but still no go .14:23
salgadoffed, has your mirror been around and being used for some time already?  I know it usually takes some time for a mirror to be accepted as official as the mirror admins need to be sure it's reliable enough14:27
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ffedsalgado: it has been online and stable since the 19th of January... so the anwser would be no, it hasn't been arroubnd for a long time, but its sure running stable.14:30
ffedsalgado: i have just send an email to the Ubuntu team again, to make sure that they have recieved my registration, let's see what happens14:31
ffedthanx for your help14:31
salgadoffed, you're welcome14:32
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pochuffed: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-mirrors15:00
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mdzhttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk tells me I should upload to "bzr+ssh://<name>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk" -- why doesn't it substitute my Launchpad username for me so that I can copy and paste?15:13
mdzthumper: ^15:14
mptmdz, do you get the same problem on <https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk>?15:23
mptIt looks as though the necessary URL pattern is defined for staging etc but not for production launchpad.net15:26
mptbut if so, then I don't know where that "<name>" is coming from15:26
pochuThere's an 'Upload URL' which has that <name>, and under it, and 'Example URL' with the right UserID.15:27
pochuBoth in edge and staging15:27
mptwell, that seems a little un-useful15:28
mptAnyway, mdz, I suggest reporting a bug, because the launchpad-bazaar team is mostly asleep15:28
pochuAnd the 'Example' one contains 'bzr push' too, whereas 'UPload URL' doesn't.15:29
pochu(since it's an url...)15:29
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mptyes, that's by design15:30
mdzmpt: they look the same to me15:40
mdzmpt: pochu is correct15:40
mdzmpt: the "Download URL" is something I can use verbatim, but "Upload URL" isn't15:41
mdzmpt: I can however copy the "example"15:41
mdzon which launchpad project should I file it?15:41
kikomdz, maybe I can fix that for you right away, can you show me a URL?15:41
mdzkiko: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk15:42
mdzbut you may need to be a member of the team?15:42
kikoyeah, I'm trying to find a similar case15:42
kikowell, it's a one-liner15:44
kikoyeah, I don't see why not to do it15:44
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musashiadmin? help. this situation is getting rapidly out of hand. https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2358816:24
musashisee https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2361816:25
musashiand https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2362316:25
mptkiko, ^^^16:25
musashimpt: is kiko the only one who can address this? i'm not sure he's around.16:30
mptSteveA could too, I think16:30
mptor mthaddon 16:30
musashiwell, that should effectively ping them. lets see if anyone's around16:31
mthaddonlooking now16:31
mthaddonmusashi, I can take care of it, but I would need either SteveA or kiko to approve it (I have perms, but would need to check with them - I'll be sure to follow up on it)16:32
kikomthaddon, I wrote to him earlier, no reply, so disable his account16:33
mthaddonkiko, ok, sounds good16:33
mthaddonok, that's done - thx musashi 16:36
musashikiko: mthaddon does that mean the issues is resolved for now? i (and the others who help on answers i'm sure) appreciate it. thanks16:36
kikomusashi, until he creates a new account, it is.16:36
musashithanks mthaddon 16:36
musashiyeah16:36
mthaddonnp16:36
musashican you ip block16:37
kikoprobably not16:37
mthaddonif he's very persistent we can look at that as an option, but it's pretty trivial to get around16:37
mthaddon(log on from internet cafe, etc.)16:38
musashihowever, it's great that this is the only problem i've seen so far. answers is pretty friendly for the most part16:38
musashimthaddon: yeah, i know. i suggested some sort of moderator approach. maybe as answers continues to grow that will become more important16:39
mthaddonyeah, I'm sure it will16:39
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musashimthaddon: kiko well thanks for taking care of this. good day.16:48
LaserJockcarlos: ping, regarding gcompris in gutsy lang packs17:26
carlosLaserJock: pong17:26
carlosLaserJock: I fixed that bug that prevented to get updates17:26
carlosso it's just a matter of having a new language pack update17:27
LaserJockcarlos: ok, awesome17:27
LaserJockI'll talk to pitti about that17:27
carlosLaserJock: yeah, please. I cannot do anything else ;-)17:27
wbradyhow do you change the status of a project?17:41
wbradyor is there a way to delete a project?17:41
wbradysorry got to run, i'll ask later today17:41
* kiko sighs17:41
LaserJockthat was a bit of a drive-by17:42
LaserJockand didn't even leave the project17:42
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Rinchentime chage to 18:0018:06
kikothaks for the chage18:07
LaserJockanybody know how to get "pagination" in +archive pages? can I add something to the URL perhaps?18:12
kiko_LaserJock, what archive URL?18:13
LaserJockfor a PPA18:13
kiko_for which PPA.18:14
LaserJockwell, any, but in particular https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/18:14
LaserJockmakes it pretty useless so I go dredging around the repo itself18:14
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kikoLaserJock, what's useless about it? you're totally confusing me.18:17
kikoLaserJock, there is no pagination needed there -- all the results are on a single page.18:17
LaserJockummm, no18:17
kikono what?18:18
* kiko nudges LaserJock 18:18
LaserJockthere's only -aa through -dv18:18
LaserJockfor instance to find french I have to actually do a search for language-pack-fr18:19
kikoLaserJock, gar. 18:19
kikocprov, where are the batch navigation bits in +archive?18:19
kikoLaserJock, use ?start=X18:19
kikoor ?batch=X18:19
LaserJockah, let me try that18:19
kikocprov, something regressed there18:19
kikothere used to be the batch navigator arrows18:20
LaserJockI'm pretty sure I've already seen a bug report on it for some time18:20
kikothey're gone18:20
LaserJockbut I couldn't find it right off so I wondered what the magic ? would be to get it18:20
cprovkiko: LaserJock:  click "Search" button18:20
cprovLaserJock: yes, there is a bug for "getting this right", let me find it.18:21
kikocprov, why can't we have the batch nav arrows there on first load?18:21
kikotimeout now, great18:21
LaserJockkiko: ?start= works18:21
kikoI know, I tried it18:21
kikocprov, is it hard to fix? I'm confused why that was left in, but I guess I forgot about it18:22
cprovkiko: because, there was no "search". They were there before, and a bug report request them to be hidden on page loads18:22
kikocprov, why should they be hidden? what bug report?18:23
kikocan I read that?18:23
cprov*one* second18:23
kikoken18:24
cprovkiko: I think it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/13568118:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135681 in soyuz "PPA package refers to "results" when I haven't searched for anything" [Undecided,Fix released]  - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)18:26
kikothanks cprov 18:27
LaserJockso fixing that removed pagination altogether?18:27
LaserJockkiko: I've got a question about all this project-to-package linking18:49
LaserJockI've been seeing lately a number of package linked to "trunk" on a project18:50
LaserJockwell, more specifically linked to the gutsy package18:50
LaserJocknow that we have hardy it seems like we're gonna have a lot of inaccurate links18:50
LaserJockare there thoughts on what to do with these?18:51
blueyedis somebody around who's just coding on lp.net?20:30
blueyed;) - profile pages should display timezone also in UTC+X20:30
blueyede.g.: Timezone:  America/Sao_Paulo (UTC+X)20:31
matsubarablueyed, file a bugp please20:31
wbradyis there a way to delete a project on launchpad?20:51
matsubarawbrady, ask here: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, with a link for the project you want deleted and an lp admin will delete it for you20:53
wbradyok thanks20:54
Rincheneh? Eu pensei que o Sao Paulo era -2?20:55
Rinchennao +20:56
blueyedmatsubara: bug 18818721:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188187 in launchpad "Please display offset to UTC with timezone info for profiles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18818721:44
blueyedwhy didn't it get announced here by ubotu?21:45
blueyedubotu: why?21:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:45
ubotuNew bug: #188187 in launchpad "Please display offset to UTC with timezone info for profiles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18818721:45
blueyedubotu: alcohol21:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alcohol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:45
blueyedoh, well.. :p21:45
matsubarablueyed, because it takes a while to ubotu receive the notification from launchpad21:47
matsubarablueyed, thanks for the report. Just confirmed it and I think it's a good idea21:47
blueyedmatsubara: there are moments where I tend to be impatient.. ;) thanks.21:50
goobsoftCan someone help me with PPA?  I setup my account, but my url is just returning 404.22:21
goobsofthttp://ppa.launchpad.net/goobsoft/ubuntu22:21
LaserJockgoobsoft: well, you don't have anything it it so it's empty :-)22:23
goobsoftOk, I did dput a package yesterday, but I don't see any evidence of it.22:24
LaserJocknope22:24
goobsoftNo I didn't upload a package?22:25
LaserJockit didn't make it to the PPA anyway22:25
goobsoft[my-ppa]22:25
goobsoftfqdn = ppa.launchpad.net22:25
goobsoftmethod = ftp22:25
goobsoftincoming = ~goobsoft/ubuntu/22:25
goobsoftlogin = anonymous22:25
goobsoftallow_unsigned_uploads = 022:25
goobsoftIs that the right dput.cf?22:25
LaserJockdid you get an email from Launchpad?22:25
goobsoft.dput.cf22:25
LaserJockseems right22:26
goobsoftaha22:26
goobsoft Rejected:22:26
goobsoftUnable to find distroseries: feisty gutsy hardy22:26
goobsoftFurther error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.22:26
LaserJockah22:26
goobsofton email reply is different22:26
goobsoft Rejected:22:26
goobsoftworklogproc_0.2-2.dsc: Section 'Miscellaneous' is not valid22:26
goobsoftworklogproc_0.2-2.diff.gz: Section 'Miscellaneous' is not valid22:26
goobsoftworklogproc_0.2-2_all.deb: Section 'Miscellaneous' is not valid22:26
goobsoftFurther error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.22:26
LaserJockcan you pastebin your changelog and control files for me?22:27
goobsoftyes22:27
goobsoftbtw, I would expect the build to fail, because I don't have the dependencies setup just yet.22:28
goobsoftI'm still a packaging newb :)22:28
LaserJockgoobsoft: you might want to set up pbuilder then as it will save you a lot of time22:29
goobsoftchangelog: http://pastebin.com/m1295caa522:30
goobsoftcontrol: http://pastebin.com/m5f308e0e22:30
LaserJockok, let's tackle these one at a time22:30
goobsoftpbuilder can be used in place of dpkg-buildpackage and debuild or something right?22:30
LaserJockyep22:31
LaserJockand it's a clean environment that is similar to what PPA builds with so if you're missing dependencies it'll show up there22:31
goobsoftright, ok22:31
LaserJockok, so the changelog22:31
LaserJockthe problem is that PPA doesn't handle multiple releases as you've done22:32
LaserJockso you need to do worklogproc (0.2-2) hardy; urgency=low22:32
goobsoftok22:32
LaserJockand for different releases you need different versions22:33
LaserJockso I would use a bit more sophisticated versioning scheme22:33
goobsoftI don't follow what you mean by different releases and different versions.  Are you saying that I can provide different packages for gutsy and hardy if they are distinct versions?22:34
LaserJockit means you can't upload a package with the same exact version to both gutsy and hardy22:35
goobsoftok22:35
LaserJockso I might suggest something like 0.2-0ubuntu1~ppa122:36
LaserJockactually22:36
LaserJock0.2-0ubuntu0.7.10~ppa1 might be better22:37
LaserJockfor gutsy22:37
goobsoftok22:37
LaserJockand 0.2-0ubuntu0.8.04~ppa1 for hardy22:37
LaserJockso you're using the release version in the package version22:37
goobsoftok22:38
goobsoftis Section: Miscellaneous appropriate for this CLI worklog tool?22:39
LaserJockit's not that it is bad, but that's not the right name to mean22:40
goobsoftWhat would be better?22:41
LaserJockmisc is the actual name22:42
goobsoftSo I could change that to "Section: misc"22:42
LaserJockyep, that gets you the Miscellaneous section22:43
goobsoftok.  Are all packages dput build before being published?22:44
goobsoftDoes ppa always build packages before publishing them?22:44
LaserJockyes22:44
LaserJockwell, I'm not sure of the exact timing22:45
LaserJockif the source package will show up in the archive before the .debs22:45
goobsoftWhen I go into "View build records" the search doesn't return any results.  Is that because my packages were rejected before the build process started at all?22:46
LaserJockyes22:47
LaserJockit has to be there before it can build it :-)22:47
goobsoftok, that makes sense.22:47
goobsoftthe last thing output from dput is "Not running dinstall."  Is that something to worry about?22:51
LaserJocknope22:53
LaserJockthat's normal22:53
goobsoftok, I think I have enough information to make some changes and try again.  Thanks a ton LaserJock, you've been extremely helpful.22:54
LaserJockno problem22:54
LaserJockif you ever want to get stuff into Ubuntu proper have a talk with #ubuntu-motu22:55
LaserJockPPA is good practice though :-)22:55
goobsoftAre you a motu?22:56
LaserJockyes22:56
goobsoftHow long have you been doing this?  Are you responsible for a few packages or do you help ask needed?22:57
goobsoft"as needed"22:57
LaserJockhmm22:59
LaserJockI started around September of 2005 I think22:59
LaserJockI do a variety of things around Ubuntu22:59
LaserJockthere's always lots to do22:59
goobsoftI'm amazed at the work that has gone in.23:01
goobsoftIt's really a fascinating just to me in the way it's organized.  There are just so many people contributing...23:02
LaserJockand a lot of it by volunteers23:02
LaserJockgoobsoft: if you want to check out more just hang out in #ubuntu-motu for a bit, we don't bite ... usually ;-)23:04
goobsoftHow much work do you have to put in before you get issued a Heman sword?23:07
LaserJockoh, a bit, depends on how much time you've got ;-)23:09
LaserJockusually 6 months or so23:09
goobsoft:)23:09

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