[00:20] In case anyone is watching, it all worked as expected after the hoop-jumping, boots up, happy, all good. [00:31] Hm, what log files do you guys believe needs to be checked? syslog and messages? [00:36] foo, checked, for what? [00:37] for the sake of maintenance and making sure everything is running good [00:49] foo: Well, the answer, as usual, is: "It depends." - If you're running samba, then the logs for mysql will be of little use to you. Similarly, an ftp server maintains different logs from a print server. So really, depending on the services you're running, the logs differ. [00:50] owh: hm, actually, fair enough - now I see how that question I asked isn't necessarily the greatest question I've asked :) Thanks. [00:52] foo, It happens to all of us at some time or other :) [00:53] :) [02:34] hi all [02:35] how is every one tonight? [02:35] Is there any one in here at all? [03:04] yes, there are people in here ;) some of us just got home though [03:27] I was wondering if anyone here had suggestions for setting up an extremely minimal X environment on ubuntu server [03:28] I tried just installing xorg and icewm with a few deps, and it runs [03:28] but it won't shut down [03:28] what wont shutdown? [03:28] X [03:28] if I try to stop X by any method at all [03:28] not that I recommend using X on a server at all, however [03:29] I can't go back to a terminal, and the system won't shut down [03:29] well, this isn't for a server [03:29] I'm just using server because it's stripped down [03:29] ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't kill X for you? [03:29] it does [03:29] but X never comes back up [03:29] and my terminal never shows up [03:29] it just goes blank [03:30] my goal in this [03:30] is to create the smallest install footprint I can [03:30] to run vmware server and the console on the same box [03:30] X will switch itself over to usually tty6 or 7, did you try going back to tty1 or whatever where you launched X? [03:30] yes [03:30] with X running, if I try to switch terminals [03:31] my screen just goes blank [03:31] and I'm stuck again [03:31] I installed xinit to start X, and installed xfonts-base [03:31] other than that, just dependencies [03:32] how are you starting X? [03:32] startx [03:33] anything being logged to dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log? [03:33] nothing helpful [03:34] the last things in Xorg.0.log [03:34] are initializing the mouse [03:35] type of video card and driver? [03:35] video card is an nvidia GeForce 8600GTS, I didn't install any proprietary drivers [03:36] driver is "vesa" [03:37] aha [03:37] I changed it to "nv" [03:37] and it all works [03:37] thanks for the hint [03:37] * faulkes- nods [03:37] yw [04:14] Hm, is there a way to save a file in vim when I piped something to it? from the man page: s filename seems to do it... but I can't seem to get that to work. It just says "log file in use" [04:21] could you give a cli example [04:21] like vi | cat /tmp/file or somesuch? [04:24] doh! I mean, less [04:38] again, can you show me a cli example? [07:44] moin === soren_ is now known as soren [09:19] i'm from doing changes in dovecot and installing full stack trough tasksel (including maildir) [09:22] Morning all [10:39] Hiya [10:51] I am less than amused with the hour at which I am still awake and others considering "morning" [10:51] I must be getting old [10:52] good morning folks [10:54] <_ruben> faulkes-: that's what "gug" is for: Generic UTC Greeting [10:54] <_ruben> so, gug ;) [10:58] see what I mean about old? I can barely manage a LOL [11:01] lol [11:01] however, if it is a UTC greeting, then Morning would be accurate! [11:06] just past 6am here, I went to bed at like midnight, havent slept a wink so I've been trolling the support forums for unanswered posts to help with [11:09] huh, I sent an email to u-s@, but I got a bounce saying that I'm not subscribed which is not true [11:09] faulkes-: You got a bit of insomnia or are you just a night owl? [11:10] Gargoyle: something like insomnia but not quite [11:10] I suppose if I really wanted to sleep I could just go read the opening chapter of the PMBOK which is enough to put even the most hardcore insomniac to sleep [11:11] lol [11:11] (project management body of knowledge) for those not familiar with the term [11:12] but project management is funnnnnnnnnnn Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [11:12] actually, I rather enjoy project management, the actual application thereof [11:13] having to read about it, well, that's an entirely different story [11:14] I swear I've cut myself on sharper spoons the authors are so dull [11:15] ha ha ha [11:16] I should write a PM book so cutting edge and thrilling it would be the spork of the PM world [11:16] get some sleep first... [11:18] probably not a bad idea, I'm getting punchy [11:29] Anyone know of any good webmail installs that work well with postfix+dovecott using both pop/imap email types? [11:47] Hello. My Asus Mainboard has 2 Marvell SATA controllers but my fresh ubuntu install only sees the disk on the 1st one, not the second one. These is what lspci returns: [11:47] 02:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6121 SATA II Controller (rev b1) [11:47] 04:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6121 SATA II Controller (rev b2) [11:48] Anyone knows what's wrong? :-/ [12:09] which ubuntu is that? [12:09] ivoks, 7.10 [12:12] http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#marvell [12:12] found that, but it doesn't say anything on how to fix it [12:13] try disabling raid functions in bios [12:13] let them be, what they are - just sata controllers [12:13] uhm :-| [12:13] ok, I'll try that too [12:14] linux software raid is better than those fakeraids [12:15] ivoks, that's what I'm trying to do [12:15] ivoks, got 5 hdds and an optical drive on the sata controllers [12:15] 1 hdd for the OS, 4 for RAID5 [12:56] ScottK: 2.4.7 [12:56] Cool. [12:57] lamont: Then I'd say let's go with the original plan, get that in and then backport it. [12:57] any ideas if there's a 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 kernel backported to 7.10? :-/ [12:58] no there isnt [12:59] :-/ [13:04] 2.6.24 is for hardy you will have to compile the kernel yourself if you want to run 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 [13:16] woo hoo snow.... rain... hail the size of marbles! [13:16] Damit... I need to go out - letters to post, banking to do, blah blah blah... I am going to get drowned, blown away and frozen. [13:17] And that means I'll miss hollyoaks! ;) [13:18] back later... [13:18] maybe! [13:54] Can we use drivers of desktop edition in server edition [13:54] ? [13:55] coolbhavi: Please ask a more specific question. [13:55] What exactly is it you are trying to do? [13:55] My wireless driver failed on server edition [13:56] so i am thinking to use desktop drivers.. [13:56] Is it possible? [13:58] worst case you apt-get the generic desktop kernel [13:58] coolbhavi: I suspect they are the same. [13:59] As pepperjack says, you could install the generic kernel and try that, but I'd be suprised if it made a difference. [13:59] OK.. I ll get the desktop kernel.. and try..... [14:00] I would have to agree, I would first look at what wireless card you are using and why those drivers are failing, if it is a driver issue at all [14:00] OK [14:01] thanks for the info.. [14:03] you can't use the restricted device manager package onthe server package [14:03] if your intalling the ubuntu desktop and the ubuntu-generic kernel, you may as well install the desktop CD [14:03] OK [17:25] * soren hugs nealmcb for raising the sanity level in that pointless Samba bug thread [17:39] heh... that one was going into crazy land [18:18] soren: :-) [18:19] soren: thanks for working hard to keep the tone of that conversation civil. not easy! [18:19] especially when that isn't even the place for a conversation.... [19:05] <_Drax> Ive just recently joined the ubuntu community by installing the server edition on my standalone computer, first reason I did was I needed a webserver and the LAMP solution was perfect. Im now interested in suggestions on what more I can use it for. I will join the NTP pool project and if you know more things like those please let me know. [20:05] I am running ubuntu server on a dell poweredge 2650.. I have 4GB of ram but it is recognizing only 256MB. Is there a way to fix this? [20:07] install mode? [20:07] some servers have bios option 'OS install mode' [20:07] oh, let me check that [20:12] yes it was [20:12] :S ... thanks [20:12] np [20:31] bug #179905 [20:31] Launchpad bug 179905 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "Bus Error when attempting to access MySQL Server using host name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179905 [20:33] zul: did you find a reference in mysql upstream bug database ? [20:33] not yet.. [20:34] zul: it seems that it's a problem in libnss [20:35] zul: it may be better to get gethostbyname_r fixed in there rather than adding a workaround in mysql-dfsg [20:37] ill get more information from the user [23:26] I need help with apache on ubuntu 7.10 [23:26] electrofreak: and the error or help you need is ?? [23:27] leonel, Well... It's kind of a problem on most distros by default... permissions. How can I make it so that scripts and what not get executed by the owning user? [23:28] php, for instance. If it wants to write a while.... it isn't actually able to unless the directory gives write permissions to apache [23:28] *write a file [23:29] this can certainly be done by vhosts, correct? [23:45] anyone have a good grasp on mysql configs? [23:53] electrofreak: you can use apache-prefork and configure so the apache fork runs as the user you want [23:53] sherl0k: sorry PostgreSQL here ;-)