[00:00] <jrib> kahrytan: please read what ubotu said
[00:00] <Pelo> drunkmuppets,  dmz is not a great idea to start with,   are you sure your static ip is still set properly in the comp and that it is still free in the router ? ie not part of the dhcp range ?
[00:00] <bbc> LjL: it gives some error on KDE library
[00:00] <LjL> bbc: pastebin the error (no, pastebin the entire output)
[00:01] <Pelo> dimas_,  that looks like crap ,   do a little search on your hdd and tell me the path and name of the .exe to start the prog I'll try to make you a proper command to start it
[00:01] <Tweek888> Hell
[00:01] <Tweek888> Hello*
[00:01] <Pelo> dimas_, gimme a minute, I need a short break
[00:01] <neverblue> hey Tweek888
[00:01] <dimas_> pelo:ok
[00:01] <blick> diff seems lousy at comparing English paragraphs for revisions. Is there a better alternative?
[00:02] <Tweek888> is there a guide for autologin on gutsy? I tried an old guide but it didn't work
[00:02] <Tweek888> actually it fubared everything
[00:02] <LjL> blick: well, define "lousy"
[00:02] <bbc>  Couldn't find package Kdevelop
[00:02] <bbc>  
[00:02] <LjL> bbc: lowercase "k".
[00:02] <bbc> ohh ok
[00:02] <LjL> bbc: package names are never uppercase.
[00:03] <Tweek888> autologin with no manager guide*
[00:03] <bbc> thakns
[00:03]  * Pelo returns to the keyboard much releaved
[00:03] <Gibb> nickrud: I found what it was: the wifi card. I took out the wifi card, it booted fine. turned off the printer service under admin. now I can get to the login, but it hangs up right after login with no error
[00:03] <Pelo> dimas_, when you are ready
[00:03] <Gibb> *with the wifi card in
[00:03] <mdmkolbe|work> neigther /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart nor reset worked.  Any other ideas about how to restart the sound?
[00:03] <dimas_> pelo:i dont know what you want me to look for...sorry
[00:04] <Pelo> dimas_, I want you to get me the path to the .exe file that starts the prog you want to run
[00:04] <muuddflap> finally
[00:04] <muuddflap> i have a printer
[00:04] <Tweek888> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152274 I have tried this but can not get it to compile autologin.c
[00:05] <nemilar> mdmkolbe|work: did you try restarting the machine?
[00:05] <dimas_> env WINEPREFIX="/home/dimas/.wine" wine "C:\ARCH~KTD\Jhoos\UNWISE.EXE" /W2 "C:\Archivos de programa\Jhoos\INSTALL.LOG"
[00:05] <DrMuffin> Requesting help with boot
[00:05] <Pelo> dimas_, what is the name of that prog ?
[00:05] <nemilar> !ask | DrMuffin
[00:05] <dimas_> pelo i guess is unwise.exe
[00:05] <nemilar> ubotu: wake up!!!
[00:05] <soldats> ubotu is gone it is now ubotwo
[00:05] <dimas_> pelo:joosh
[00:06] <Jangari> gotta relogin
[00:06] <tanner> does anyone know of a way to turn a base system into a live cd/usb? allow it to load completely into memory (copy2ram) and be presistent?
[00:06] <Chousho> Does anybody know which printer brands are the best to get working on Linux without too much of a hassle?
[00:06] <Pelo> dimas_, as far as I know , unwise is the standard file name for the unlinstaler of any progs in windows
[00:06] <bbc> I installed kdevelop, but when I start it, nothing happenes (I am in Gnome)
[00:06] <nemilar> Chousho: HP is the best
[00:06] <jrib> Chousho: probably hp, but check what ubotu says:
[00:06] <nemilar> Also, Epson works well
[00:06] <jrib> !printers > chousho (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:06] <Pelo> bbc, how do you start it ?
[00:06] <ubotu> DrMuffin: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:06] <Chousho> :D thanks!
[00:06] <dimas_> pelo hold on let me see
[00:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:06] <Tweek888> be right back
[00:06] <DrMuffin> !ask There are multiple boot options when my computer boots up; one of them is my Ubuntu and it has a few other options like "ubuntu memtest" and then it still has windows. I would like to remove them.
[00:06] <nemilar> Chousho: check out www.linuxprinting.org for a full list
[00:06] <mdmkolbe|work> nemilar: In the past I've restarted the machine and that works, but it happens often enough, that restarting the machine gets very anoying and I'd like a way that doesn't require me to save/close/restart/open/restore my work.
[00:06] <bbc> Pelo: Applications > programming > kdevelop
[00:07] <notjames> how do i set environment variables so that apache can use them? i tried adding them to apache2.conf but i don't think it's working
[00:07] <nemilar> mdmkolbe|work: there's probably some process not letting go of the sound device, that happens to me every once and a while
[00:07] <Pelo> bbc, try typing kdevelop in the terminal see what happens
[00:07] <Pelo> DrMuffin, why do you want to do that ?
[00:07] <DrMuffin> So that it can boot straight into my Ubuntu?
[00:07] <luc_> Any images for putting Ubuntu on the PS3?
[00:07] <nemilar> mdmkolbe|work: you can use lsof | grep /dev/dsp or grep for /dev/snd to see what's using the sound device... you'll probably see some application hanging around that you closed a while ago
[00:08] <bbc> Pelo: it just does nothing in terminal also
[00:08] <nemilar> mdmkolbe|work: flash and xmms seem to like to do it a lot
[00:08] <luc_> Pelo, bbc: I had trouble with Kdevelop, got it working, but it didn't compule. I used Anjuta instead
[00:08] <luc_> *compile
[00:08] <Pelo> DrMuffin, ok try this instead,  hide the menu and shorten the delay to 3 sec or something ,  edit the menu.lst file to do that but do not remove the options,   gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:08] <Pelo> bbc, open synaptic and reinstall
[00:09] <bbc> Pelo: let me try
[00:09] <Pelo> dimas_, how are we doing ?
[00:09] <tanner> are copy2ram/toram kernel options?
[00:09] <DrMuffin> Hmm. Well, I just wish it would auto-boot into Ubuntu. That's all. And maybe remove the Windows option.
[00:09] <dimas_> pelo i dont know where is wine even
[00:10] <Pelo> DrMuffin, if you don'T do anyting while it boots does it eventualy get to ubuntu ?
[00:10] <DrMuffin> Yes. If I wait 20 seconds or so it will auto-select Ubuntu.
[00:10] <Pelo> dimas_, .... , lets start from scratch shall we ?
[00:10] <Jobias> has anyone tried to install flash on firefox on gutsy lately? the .tgz file it automatically downloads fails the md5sum check, so i can never install the plug-in
[00:10] <dimas_> pelo ok
[00:10] <jrib> Jobias: check the topic of this channel :)
[00:10] <Pelo> DrMuffin, toward the top of the menu.lst file there is a delay line,  change it to 3 sec
[00:11] <DrMuffin> Alright.
[00:11] <Pelo> dimas_,  what is the program you were trying to install using wine ?
[00:11] <quittt> there is something wrong on my boot
[00:11] <illuminaris> when i download a program from add/remove programs, and it doesn't show up anywhere in my menu, how do i find it?
[00:11] <jrib> illuminaris: what program?
[00:11] <quittt> when I boot, do you know the Ubuntu logo? nothing appers, the monitor keeps down
[00:11] <dimas_> is call jhoos
[00:11] <illuminaris> ktimer
[00:11] <dimas_> pelo is called jhoos
[00:11] <quittt> and when the boot finished, the monitor opens
[00:11] <Pelo> DrMuffin, you might also want to tell ubuntu to loginto your user name at boot by default,  menu > system> ADMIN > LOGIN windows > 3rd tab I think
[00:11] <quittt> it is vey bizarre, what can be making this?
[00:12] <jrib> illuminaris: what is the result of: dpkg -L ktimer | grep bin
[00:12] <syntaxerror55> quittt: when the boot is over you still get into Ubuntu?
[00:12] <illuminaris> package ktimer is not installed
[00:12] <quittt> of course
[00:12] <illuminaris> should i do apt-get install ktimer?
[00:12] <quittt> everything works perfecly
[00:12] <DrMuffin> Ok. Thanks. In the menu.lst it has a lil paragraph called "hidemenu" How can I turn that on?
[00:12] <dimas_> pelo the think is all the programs i try to run on wine none of them work mean start
[00:12] <quittt> perfectly
[00:12] <jrib> illuminaris: yes, that means you did not install it
[00:12] <Pelo> dimas_, ok , in your /home/username folder,  there is a hidden folder calleed .wine ( find it ) look in .wine/c/program files/jhoost for a .exe file
[00:12] <syntaxerror55> quittt: Could be a problem with the usplash. Have you changed it recently?
[00:12] <illuminaris> that's weird, does that happen a lot with add/remove programs?
[00:13] <compy_> anytime i use apt-get i get this error The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[00:13] <compy_> any clues?
[00:13] <dimas_> pelo ok
[00:13] <Pelo> dimas_, how did you go about installing this program to start with ?
[00:13] <quittt> syntaxerror55, I've just installed Xubuntu
[00:13] <quittt> hehe
[00:13] <Pelo> compy_, do a search in the forum for the exact error msg , there is likely a simple solution , www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:14] <dimas_> pelo installed automatically after downloading
[00:14] <syntaxerror55> quittt: Xubuntu would have changed the usplash. I think I know how to fix it
[00:14] <bbc> Pelo: I tried installing througn Synaptic also, but its the same, nothing happenes
[00:14] <notjames> whats the best way of setting environment variables that apache/php can use?
[00:14] <Pelo> dimas_, this might be a qeustion for #winehq , I'm getting a bit over my head right now
[00:14] <Pelo> bbc, did you notice the msg from luc I  think it was ?
[00:14] <dimas_> pelo ok thanks
[00:14] <illuminaris> jrib thanks for your help
[00:14] <compy_> Pelo, dunno if your a bot but nothing comes up
[00:14] <dimas_> pelo i will ask them then
[00:15] <bbc> Pelo: no, what was it?
[00:15] <jrib> illovae: no problem
[00:15] <luc_> Pelo, bbc: I had trouble with Kdevelop, couldn't get it to compile, so I use Anjuta
[00:15] <syntaxerror55> quittt: type sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[00:15] <mdmkolbe|work> nemilar: thx, that fixed it after I killed the processes and did an /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset.  Evince (the document viewer) and openoffice where holding the file open though neigher of them actually uses sound (!!).
 Pelo, bbc: I had trouble with Kdevelop, got it working, but it didn't compule. I used Anjuta instead
[00:15] <quittt> syntaxerror55, it is not this
[00:15] <luc_> bbc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjuta
[00:15] <bbc> Pelo: ok, let me try Anjuta as well
[00:15] <nemilar> mdmkolbe|work: yeah, I donno...it's an annoying bug
[00:15] <syntaxerror55> quittt: huh?
[00:15] <bbc> luc_: thanks
[00:16] <keithclark> If I change a monitor on a currently running system, how do I adjust for it?
[00:16] <Pelo> dimas_,  why are you trying to use windows program in ubuntu anyway ? can't you find a linux alternative to joost or whatever ?
[00:16] <luc_> bbc: No worries
[00:16] <quittt> it was a misconfiguration of the installer... actually is a bug... usplash.conf the resolution is not supported by my monitor
[00:16] <drunkmuppet>  pelo - I changed my static to 192.168.1.10 but still cannot access the router config. I can ping it but when I try and pull it up, it never connects
 Just sits at "Waiting for 192.168.1.1"
 I mean resetting it would fix it, but i'm trying not to anger my g.f and roomate.
[00:16] <drunkmuppet> woops. sorry.
[00:16] <syntaxerror55> quittt: I thought you didn't know the problem. :|
[00:16] <Pelo> drunkmuppet,  what does ifconfig tell you your gateway is ?
[00:16] <dimas_> pelo...lol does has to be with a woman....am i bad?
[00:16] <quittt> syntaxerror55, just discovered it, =P
[00:17] <syntaxerror55> quittt: ah, k
[00:17] <Shadow6363> is there anyway to get grub to rescan for os's and add them to menu.lst, i realize i could just manually add the entries, just wondering if theres a way for it to look for them
[00:17] <Pelo> dimas_, are those porn things ?
[00:17] <dimas_> pelo:...lol
[00:17] <pawsmacke1> (keithclark) try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[00:17] <DrMuffin> Ok. I got it all figured out. Thanks for the help Pelo.
[00:17] <drunkmuppet> pelo | 192.168.1.255
[00:17] <Pelo> Shadow6363, not taht I know of
[00:17] <Pelo> drunkmuppet, and putting that in the browser gets you nothing ?
[00:17] <Kalamarencu> hello :)
[00:18] <Pelo> dimas_, I just don'T get what the issue is ,
[00:18] <dimas_> pelo i found the path but they are two...jhoos.exe
[00:18] <pawsmacke1> shadow, try grub-install
[00:18] <Kalamarencu> what command do I need to run to get the driver version of my NIC ?
[00:18] <iari> Slart: Thanks for the help but my platforms don't run under wine, I guess I'll have to install qemu / virtualBox, any diff ?
[00:18] <solexious> [Q} Can any one help me with setting up mdadm?
[00:18] <dimas_> pelo thats the sourse i can ccontact her
[00:18] <Shadow6363> Pelo: thanks
[00:18] <Pelo> dimas_, either one will do ,  in the terminal type  wine /path/to/jhoos.exe   replace /path/to wit the actual path
[00:18] <xazo> hello
[00:19] <drunkmuppet> pelo - well see, I have xubuntu running through VMWare, my windows gateway is 192.168.1.1
[00:19] <syntaxerror55> !hi | xazo
[00:19] <ene_dene> on KDE there is an option that you can change desktop background every x minutes, is there something similar in gnome?
[00:19] <|-> Hi people.....  nights
[00:19] <dimas_> pelo let me try
[00:19] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/funny/are-you-also-afraid-of-the-dentist/
[00:19] <Kitar|st> haha
[00:19] <syntaxerror55> xazo: er, the bots gone. Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:19] <Pelo> drunkmuppet, oh,  this is a vmware issue , that might be a problem ,  try asking about it in #vmware
[00:19] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,  theres some tools that can do that. or you could write your own script. and No i dont rember their names. :)
[00:19] <Q-collective> Pelo: actually, it is preferred to first cd to the dir with the .exe in it and then run wine, this to prevent possible failures.
[00:20] <Kalamarencu> what command do I need to run to get the driver version of my NIC ?
[00:20] <Hitm4n> .
[00:20] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,  i though kde had a Wallpaper-slideshow/changer feature. :) lets see
[00:20] <pawsmacke1> kala, try lspci
[00:20] <drunkmuppet> Well, the problem is in windows lol. Thats why I was asking or an active networking channel :P
[00:20] <Hitm4n> Hi people... g nights
[00:20] <Pelo> Q-collective, we are trying to make a working link
[00:20] <bascule> Kalamarencu: modinfo <module for NIC>
[00:20] <Pelo> drunkmuppet, this try asking in ##windows then
[00:21] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: yes, that's it, is there sometnig similar for gnome?
[00:21] <Hitm4n> i need some help with my Ubuntu 7.10 pleaseeeeeeee!!!!
[00:21] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,  theres some little toolyou can run that does a similer task. check the package manager
[00:21] <drunkmuppet> pelo | thanks for trying :D
[00:21] <Pelo> Hitm4n, we need an actual question
[00:21] <decipher7> Hitm4n: whats the problem?
[00:21] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: thanks
[00:21] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,   wallpaper-tray - wallpaper changing utility for GNOME
[00:22] <compy_> anyone help with this i get this error The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[00:22] <solexious> [Q] Do i have to format the drives i want to raid with mdadm before i make them a raid or after?
[00:22] <coldboot|home> I'm using evolution, and the stupid app won't display the time format correctly even when I execute it from a shell with LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8, any ideas?
[00:22] <bbc> Pelo, luc_: Anjuta worked, but is there anything like MS Visual Studio where I can debug my code with variable watch and everything?
[00:22] <syntaxerror55> Hitm4n: and the problem is ____________
[00:22] <Pelo> compy_, did you do a search for the error4 msg in the forum like I told you ?
[00:22] <Hitm4n> decipher7 i have a Compaq V2615LA notebook, i have installed Ubuntu 7.10, but my wireless device is not working
[00:22] <compy_> Pelo, yeah nothing came up
[00:22] <luc_> bbc: Not to my knowledge so far
[00:22] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: ok, thaks, I'll try it now
[00:22] <Pelo> bbc, this is not realy my feild
[00:22] <Pelo> compy_, try reinstalling network manager
[00:23] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,  drapes - a desktop wallpaper management application for the GNOME deskto
[00:23] <Hitm4n> i load the windows controller for my BCM4318 broadcom device
[00:23] <luc_> bbc: Part of the reason I keep my multiple boot
[00:23] <compy_> Pelo, so i am using wicd... and it removed my initial one that came w/ 7.10
[00:23] <decipher7> Hitm4n: Go to System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager
[00:23] <Pelo> !wifi | Hitm4n
[00:23] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: 1 at a time :)
[00:23] <Hitm4n> decipher7 andddd ???
[00:23] <decipher7> Hitm4n: Does it say there is a restricted driver available for your hardware?
[00:23] <Pelo> compy_, I can'T help with that then
[00:23] <Hitm4n> and then?
[00:23] <bad_cables> anyone using a WMP54g wireless Linksys card?
[00:24] <bbc> luc_: yea, I wanted to switch, but now I cant switch completely, also I cant live without MS outlook :(
[00:24] <syntaxerror55> !wifi | bad_cables
[00:24] <compy_> k
[00:24] <Pelo> I'm off to eat super ,  g'night folks
[00:24] <decipher7> !wifi
[00:24] <bad_cables> !wifi
[00:24] <neverblue> nite Pelo
[00:24] <Hitm4n> i dont know, let me see and come back again... i need swap WinXP to Linux
[00:24] <user____> Hitm4n: yeah tried the same thing
[00:24] <bbc> Pelo: gn
[00:24] <keithclark> Thanks to whom helped me.  Worked like a charm!
[00:24] <pawsmacke1> bbc, look into getting zimbra working on your machine
[00:24] <Scunizi> bbc have you tried the kde version of PIM?
[00:24] <syntaxerror55> decipher7: bad_cables: The bot is dead. D:
[00:24] <bbc> Scunize: no, whats it?
[00:24] <ubotu> Hitm4n: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:25] <luc_> bbc: Yeah, it's a pain. I triple boot Mac, Linux and Windows XP. Keep windows XP for Outlook and Visual Studio. Linux for general use and Mac for visual. Though Xcode on mac is pretty nifty
[00:25] <bbc> pawsmacke1: never heard of it
[00:25] <user____> Hitm4n: I've got the same card, and I never got it fully working
[00:25] <Scunizi> bbc, hang on I'll get the name.. It's the default that's used in kubuntu.
[00:25] <pawsmacke1> bbc, it's a lot of work to get zimbra up and running, but it's SOOO worthed
[00:25] <ubotu> bad_cables: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:25] <bbc> pawsmacke1: let me check that out
[00:26] <Hitm4n> Uuser___ oh my lord.... but the failure is with ubuntu because with other distributions is fine like suse (sorr for distribution SPAM)
[00:26] <Kalamarencu> bascule: mersi frumops :) THank You , Gracias, Danke schon :)
[00:26] <bascule> Kalamarencu: welcome
[00:27] <Phoenix92x> hi, I'm running 7.10 and am trying to play a raw rip of a blu-ray movie but am having no luck. I tried the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD but they weren't too helpful. I already have the rip of the disc on my hard drive in a folder but I can't get it to play. Could anyone help me?
[00:27] <Scunizi> bbc, kontact is the name... like pawsmacke1 said.. zimbra is COOL... but tough..
[00:27] <Tygir> hello all great ubuntu users!
[00:27] <luc_> Anyone know if there is a stable ubuntu release on the PS3?
[00:27] <bad_cables> Phoenix92x: Piracy is illegal
[00:27] <PriceChild> !bug | Hitm4n
[00:27] <whileimhere> hi. Can anyone tell me why it is when I boot into GNOME from the GDM I get an error that says in short that there was an error starting up the GNOME settings Daemon.
[00:27] <Scunizi> bbc, you can sudo apt-get install kontact I believe to install it for a whirl.
[00:28] <Tygir> i wanted to know how i can make compiz stay up all the time....i know about the terminal>compiz &...but whenever i close the terminal i have the no titlebars problem and compiz isnt working...
[00:28] <ubotu> Hitm4n: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[00:28] <Dr_willis> luc_,  http://psubuntu.com/  has forums. Other then that - You rarely see ps3 mentioned in this channel.
[00:28] <tussey> is there anyway to change the power management feature to shutdown instead of sleep or hibernate? Both sleep and hibernate do not work properly on my desktop machine. The machine never wakes up
[00:28] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  dont use the close button. use the 'exit' command.
[00:28] <bbc> Scunize: k, just ckecking it before installing
[00:28] <Decinoge> does anyone knows how to make a 8bit png on gimp?
[00:28] <luc_> Dr_willis: Cheers, got one and want to use it on there, bit of a cell fanboy
[00:28] <Phoenix92x> bad_cables: I backed up my copy of 300, please don't presume things
[00:28] <Tygir> Dr_willis: i did that as well...
[00:29] <pawsmacke1> tygir, which distro are you running, 7.10 have compiz-fusion pretty much out of the box
[00:29] <ubuntuisloved> i need help trying to login to see my desktop using vncserver but not having anyluck? i know i also setup vino but now im only able to ssh into my box remotely and i wanna get vnc working?
[00:29] <K_Nine> Decinoge:  Should be in the file save as.
[00:29] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  then you are not spawnign it proerly to the background. I use exit all the time.    and it works properly
[00:29] <Scunizi> Decinoge, I thought gimp defaulted at 8 bit.. am I wrong?  if I am what's the default?
[00:29] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  you could use alt-f2 and run compiz --replace
[00:29] <jeffMASTERflex> Phoenix92x: what did you use to back it up? x.264?
[00:29] <Tygir> pawsmacke1: ahh i got it that time...the exit command worked...here is my other question..how can i ensure that it always starts with boot?
[00:29] <Decinoge> 32bit as default, it has alpha and only 32 bit png has alpha
[00:30] <bbc> Scunizi, pawsmacke1: can I open .pst in zimbra or kontact?
[00:30] <mohadib> hello
[00:30] <Decinoge> (and 24bit if i'm not mistaken)
[00:30] <Scunizi> bbc, you
[00:30] <Phoenix92x> jeffMASTERflex:  VC-1
[00:30] <mohadib> how can i make crontab -e use vim and not pico?
[00:30] <pawsmacke1> bbc, zimbra is comparable to exchange, so it works with everything, import as well
[00:30] <ubuntuisloved> mohadib: export editor option
[00:30] <bbc> pawsmacke1: cool
[00:31] <K_Nine> Decinoge: There is a dedicated Gimp IRC type /join #Gimp
[00:31] <Dr_willis> mohadib,  check the crontab man page. You set an enviroment variable to be the editor you want.
[00:31] <Decinoge> i did...
[00:31] <pawsmacke1> bbc, think zimbra as exchange on a browser
[00:31] <Jangari> can I add a sshfs mount to my fstab or something ot have it mount automatically?
[00:31] <Decinoge> no one awswers
[00:31] <Jangari> to*
[00:31] <mohadib> thanks both of you "_
[00:31] <jeffMASTERflex> Phoenix92x: not familiar with that. Have you tried using VLC or Mplayer to play the file?
[00:31] <tumbleweed05> i love compiz fusion.
[00:31] <ubuntuisloved> mohadib: export EDITOR=vim
[00:31] <danc3> mohadib: export EDITOR='/usr/bin/vim'
[00:31] <Scunizi> bbc, your talking about the outlook file?  There are three ways to import for kontact or Evolution. Import first into thunderbird then the others or sync with something like Yahoo calendar/email then export or just do a csv export of contacts then import.
[00:31] <bahadunn> anyone know why some internet radio stations just seemed to stop working recently?
[00:31] <mohadib> nice :) thanks :)
[00:31] <LetsGo67> My time is constantly 6 hours late, can someone help me fix this please?  (I am using xubuntu)
[00:32] <Phoenix92x> jeffMASTERflex: it's not just one file, it's a directory. No compression.
[00:32] <danc3> LetsGo67: set your BIOS clock to local time
[00:32] <ubuntuisloved> LetsGo67: change to your region in timezone
[00:32] <Paolinho> LetsGo67, change timezone
[00:32] <bahadunn> amarok and rythmbox will not play certain internet radio stations
[00:32] <pawsmacke1> bah, middle east and india have limited internet backbone atm
[00:32] <Phoenix92x> I've tried opening the folder with VLC/mplayer but that doesn't work
[00:32] <bbc> Scunize: thanks
[00:32] <syntaxerror55> !timezone | LetsGo67
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <syntaxerror55> LetsGo67: oh, just type tzconfig
[00:32] <mohadib> do i need to put that in my profile? i would like it to be system wide and not have to redo it
[00:32] <Paolinho> !ntpdate | LetsGo67
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpdate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <danc3> mohadib: put it in   ~/.bash_profile
[00:32] <Scunizi> bbc sure.. I had the same issues.  I found evo works ok.. kontact has more features like being able to add fields..
[00:33] <LetsGo67> syntaxerror55, I cannot launch tzconfig
[00:33] <mohadib> danc3: ok , thanks
[00:33] <Gidean> Hello everyone...
[00:33] <Paolinho> LetsGo67, tzselect
[00:33] <bbc> Scunize, pawsmacke1: cool....I will be back after dinner, c ya all
[00:33] <Kloss> hi does amarok recognize any mp3 player? and if yes, where?
[00:34] <syntaxerror55> Paolinho: it must have changed. o.o
[00:34] <bbc> Scunizi: cool...I will be back after dinner..c ya
[00:34] <astro76> mohadib: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[00:34] <mohadib> ahh , seems i need to link /usr/bin/editor to vim
[00:34] <mohadib> astro76: ahh nice :) ty
[00:35] <jeffMASTERflex> Phoenix92x: hopefully somone else knows more about VC-1 than I do. I've only used x.264 for HD rips
[00:35] <Phoenix92x> jeffMASTERflex: thanks anyway, appreciate it
[00:35] <ubuntuisloved> !vnc
[00:35] <crazy_bus> is there anyway to make kubuntu mount the sansa e200 player properly.  It sometimes allows write access and sometimes doesn't
[00:35] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[00:35] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: I know that there is also an option in KDE to download wallpapers. People vote for best wallpapers and you can download them from some kind of database, do you know an aplication for gnome that does the same thing?
[00:36] <freyyr> exit
[00:36] <seanh> Anyone know an easy way to convert FLAC to OGG?
[00:36] <freyyr> whoops
[00:36] <Dr_willis> ene_dene,  seen somthing like that. it got wallpapers from gnome-look.org but i dont use it.  or rember its name.. search the package manager for 'wallpaper' perhaps.
[00:36] <histo> seanh: ffmpeg probably would do it.
[00:36] <jeffMASTERflex> seanh: install an app called soundconverter
[00:36] <Scunizi> Decinoge, did you find an answer?  I'm sure you have a reason for doing it. I'm curious why?
[00:36] <histo> seanh: ffmpeg -i whatever final.ogg
[00:37] <K_Nine> crazy_bus:  I think you have to change the mode in sansa players. Maybe MTS?
[00:37] <histo> seanh: -i being the input file and then just type the output file after that.
[00:37] <jeffMASTERflex> seanh: it's a gui tool that is very easy to use
[00:37] <ene_dene> Dr_willis: that will help, thanks
[00:37] <LetsGo67> syntaxerror55, thanks
[00:37] <seanh> histo -- hmmm... what if there are lots of input files?
[00:37] <neurostumit> does anybody know if you can get gtkglext-1.2 in a deb file for ubuntu?
[00:38] <jeffMASTERflex> seanh: use sound converter. it can do entire directories
[00:38] <histo> seanh: and you want them all to one output file?
[00:38] <K_Nine> crazy_bus:  Try this link http://www.howtoforge.com/sandisk_mp3_player_linux
[00:38] <histo> seanh: if you man ffmpeg or look around on google i'm sure you can find exactly what you want to do.
[00:39] <rpj8> Do I *need* avahi daemon?
[00:39] <neurostumit> does anybody know where I can find gtkglext-1.2 in a DEB file?
[00:39] <seanh> jeffMASTERflex - looks good, installing
[00:39] <Sergo21> how is possible to known how much RAM azureus consume?
[00:39] <seanh> histo -- no one output file per input file. I'm gonna try soundconverter
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Sergo21,  check output of the htop or top command is one way.
[00:39] <alsadk> whats about gpg: no valid OpenPGP data foun
[00:39] <alsadk> ?
[00:39] <Tygir> how do i change themes in emerald?
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Tygir,   emerald-theme-manager
[00:40] <Tygir> Dr_willis: yes, but where inside the prog?
[00:40] <jeffMASTERflex> Sergo21: the nice gui way is to use system monitor
[00:40] <histo> seanh: i'm sure it has a way of doing that.
[00:40] <nikola> excuse me
[00:40] <nikola> this is where i can ask for some help
[00:40] <Sergo21> thanks for tips
[00:41] <rpj8> Do I *need* avahi daemon?
[00:41] <lildunn34> how do i figure out what server this is?
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  Hmm.. Mine has a list of themes.. You may have to read/run the commands it mentions on the first tab - to download the svn themes.
[00:41] <LadyNikon> lildunn34: the irc server?
[00:41] <lildunn34> is this the official irc.freenode.net
[00:41] <drunkmuppet> yes
[00:41] <danc3> rpj8: no
[00:42] <drunkmuppet> no
[00:42] <Tygir> Dr_willis: i see what you mean...and i have the list of themes...but if i click on one how do i enable the theme to use it?
[00:42] <theunixgeek> lildunn34: yes
[00:42] <lildunn34> ok thanks
[00:42] <drunkmuppet> yes :D
[00:42] <LadyNikon> there is an unofficial one?
[00:42] <ubuntuisloved> anyone know how i can remotely from command line activate vncserver it says starting but then even i cannot do a telnet 127.0.0.1 5900 or 5901 in ssh'd
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  you did run 'emerald --replace' ?
[00:42] <lildunn34> no just thinking it was a channel on a different server
[00:42] <rpj8> danc3: Then why bother including it with the default install of ubuntu? I never seem to use it ever
[00:42] <Gidean> Hi. I just installed command only 7.10 and then xorg and icewm...when I startx the screen goes black then returns the error: no screens found XIO: fatal IO erroe 104 *snip* and then returns to the cmd prompt...
[00:42] <ubuntuisloved> nothing shows in logs
[00:42] <Gidean> any ideas?
[00:42] <LadyNikon> lildunn34: ah ok
[00:42] <danc3> rpj8: I don't know.
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  check  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion     for some troubleshooting tips
[00:43] <danc3> rpj8: you could ask that same question about many other apps/services.  It's a generic-use distro, they don't know what everybody wants.
[00:43] <theunixgeek> My Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed just arrived and the sound is very faint. The volume is up to the highest. How can I fix this?
[00:43] <lildunn34> As a "noob" whats a good tutorial or guide on ubuntu...I'm looking for a good informative read
[00:43] <Tygir> Dr_willis: thanks man i appreciate your help!
[00:43] <alsadk> whats about "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data foun", what can i do?
[00:43] <Gidean> I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf and all lokks ok..
[00:43] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: avahi is a zero configuration service for netwrok discovery. i don't think you absolutely need it, but it's what is used to automatically detect network shares and printers
[00:44] <danbhfive> theunixgeek: I have heard complaints about the Dell preinstalls,  there maybe some config package on sourceforge?
[00:44] <tokok> how you can control HDDs' caching strategy?
[00:44] <rpj8> danc3: True enough. I just wish that I understood what exactly is the use of avahi. I mean I'm reading from the main site and it's kinda written with a higher understanding of netwroking in mind that I just dont understand
[00:44] <neurostumit> lildunn34 - The Orielly series are good, but you mostly just need to play with linux
[00:44] <Gidean> anyone?
[00:44] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: Automatically detect network shares? Isn't that samba?
[00:44] <danc3> rpj8: it discovers other machines on the network, to assist with file and printer sharing
[00:44] <neurostumit> you need to find something you want to do and just google it.
[00:44] <neurostumit> i've been using linux for about 4 months (its been hard) but I have learned alot
[00:44] <rpj8> danc3: How do I *use* it
[00:45] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software)
[00:45] <rpj8> danc3: Nevermind, that's a man question
[00:45] <Gidean> Any xorg experts?
[00:45] <tokok> how you can control HDDs' caching strategy? -- like disabling write cache
[00:45] <lildunn34> neurostumit: ive learned a lot playing around  but i want a cram course more so on terminal controls and overall structure
[00:45] <danbhfive> theunixgeek: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lc4ul/
[00:45] <danbhfive> tokok: through fstab i believe
[00:45] <ubuntuisloved> anyone know how i can remotely from command line activate vncserver it says starting but then even i cannot do a telnet 127.0.0.1 5900 or 5901 in ssh'd
[00:46] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: Yeah I was reading that,I swear. but I have no idea what multicatst DNS/DNS-SD is, nor do I even know if I use it. I just know it runs in the background
[00:46] <benanzo> Can I download a file over HTTP directly to an FTP account I have on another server?  I don't have shell access on the FTP account, it's just a cheap hosting site
[00:46] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: And I don't want to remove it just in case it's some vital pillar keeping my network connection afloat
[00:46] <benanzo> I want to download a podcast from an RSS feed directly to the FTP account
[00:46] <theunixgeek> Any more information on the Dell Ubuntu sound problems?
[00:47] <benanzo> can curl or something do this?
[00:47] <lildunn34> neurostumit: i understand what you saying and google topics that interest me
[00:47] <lildunn34> thanks
[00:47] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: samba is used to communicate with windows network shares. avahi is a general system. i wouldn't remove it because apparently it integrated with gnomes VFS
[00:47] <astro76> lildunn34: these should get you started... http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/index.html  http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[00:47] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I don't use gnome, though. I installed a cli system and installed fluxbox on top
[00:47] <danbhfive> benanzo: I dont think you can do that.  You would have to login to the ftp serve, right?
[00:47] <Flannel> benanzo: curl would require you to have a shell account on the ftp account thing.  No amount of scripting will remove you from the equation, it'll just make it less visible for you.
[00:48] <tussey> is there anyway to change the power management feature to shutdown instead of sleep or hibernate? Both sleep and hibernate do not work properly on my desktop machine. The machine never wakes up
[00:48] <alsadk> whats about "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data foun", what can i do?
[00:48] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: then you probably don't need it. it's used by KDE and gnome, but if you use another system for network discovery (like manually adding network shares) then it doesn't really matter.
[00:48] <benanzo> So I'm stuck downloading then uploading to FTP then?
[00:49] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I don't even think I 'add network shares' at all.
[00:49] <orgthingy> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201002048
[00:49] <K_Nine> theunixgeek:  Check the volume in the mixer.
[00:49] <DiAbLo19> hello?
[00:50] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: here is a much better description of what exactly avahi does: http://avahi.org/
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> is there anyone here>
[00:50] <chana_> hello
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> Hello chana_
[00:50] <drunkmuppet> DiAblo19 | yes.
[00:50] <theunixgeek> K_Nine: mixer?
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> why cant i register my nick?
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> lol
[00:50] <theunixgeek> DiAbLo19: of course you can.
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> but lol...i tried
[00:50] <theunixgeek> DiAbLo19:  do a /msg nickserv register [nickname] [password]
[00:50] <DiAbLo19> i did but
[00:50] <crazy_bus> K_Nine: I read that guide.  But kubuntu still isn't mounting it properly everytime
[00:51] <DiAbLo19> its just not doing ab=nything
[00:51] <Decinoge> Scunizi: no i haven't found an answer :\ i've been googling it, but still no prevail. I need this because i am developing a homebrew for PSP, and i would like to set my game to 8bit, but for that i need the images to be 8bit otherwize he will be converting from 32 to 8 bit in real time (real slow down)...
[00:51] <theunixgeek> DiAbLo19: #freenode
[00:51] <K_Nine> theunixgeek:  try this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22/+bug/147682
[00:51]  * solex1001 slaps solexious around a bit with a large trout
[00:51] <Decinoge> Scunizi: just wanted to try, but still i find it somewhat ridiculous that i am not finding a way to do it :\
[00:52] <NeanT> what gtk based cd burner app can I use besides nautilus ?
[00:52] <Scunizi> Decinoge, try the gimp channel.. probably more fruitfull.
[00:52] <Decinoge> Scunizi: sorry for the delay, i'm kinda absorved in my search
[00:52] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I was reading that before, and it was just a tad over my head. I know it's for discovering computers on the network now, but I don't think I've ever done that outside of samba. I guess I can't imagine a situation in which it would be used
[00:52] <alsadk> whats about "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.", what can i do?
[00:52] <Decinoge> Scunizi: i've tryed color index, but still it saves on 32 bit format :\
[00:53] <Decinoge> is there any image converting tool? i cant find any on the repository :\
[00:53] <astro76> Decinoge: Image > Mode > Indexed...
[00:53] <Decinoge> astro76: tryed it... still saves on 32 (no size diference)
[00:53] <mnemonica> After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[00:54] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: imagine you had a network attached printer to your router. avahi would be the one to recognize the printer automatically so that it can be added to CUPS. Same with a NAS deviced attached to your local network
[00:54] <Skwid1> what filesystem do you guys suggest ??
[00:54] <LjL> Skwid1: ext3
[00:54] <K_Nine> Skwid1:  Ext3
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Skwid1,  for most people ext3 works fine.
[00:54] <theunixgeek> How can I get a bigger screen resolution?
[00:55] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I see. And how would the NAS device be recognized? If the printer is recognized with cups, that is... also avahi = dbus, just over the network?
[00:55] <Skwid1> alright, that's what i thought, it has been a while since i installed and i was wondering if there were any changes, thanks LjL, K_Nine and Dr_willis
[00:55] <ePax> What is the command to extract .rar files? unrar -e? or x does not work.
[00:55] <mnemonica> Hey. After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[00:55] <jeffMASTERflex> rpj8: basically. it's like dbus for the network. actually, i think it might pass to dbus, not sure. haven't buried deep enough to find out really
[00:56] <histo> ePax: man unrar will show you all the options.
[00:56] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/amazing/amazing-lego-artist/
[00:56] <Kitar|st> nice
[00:56] <Skwid1> and on a 120Go HD, if i split up / and /home, how much should i leave for / for a confortable install ? 10go, 20go ?
[00:56] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I read that it does, indeed, pass to dbus
[00:56] <K_Nine> ePax:  Do you have rar installed.
[00:56] <ePax> histo: It does but its kinda 100 options.
[00:56] <onats> i think 10g is fine
[00:56] <ePax> K_Nine: I do have it installed.
[00:56] <histo> ePax: e is the first option listed for extract to current directory
[00:56] <rpj8> jeffMASTERflex: I apologize for my quizing. I swear I read these man pages, but sometimes the things in them are just over my head... I need like, a situation specific example for these programs in order to understand what they are haha
[00:57] <iKap|> Hey, Nothing i minimize to the "icon tray" shows up there, how can i fix it!?!?
[00:57] <histo> ePax: or you just type unrar without options to see a display of them
[00:57] <Kitar|st> nice also http://wiresmash.com/amazing/an-amazing-sculputures-made-out-of-wax/
[00:57] <Kitar|st> hehe
[00:57] <histo> ePax: so unrar e filename.rar
[00:58] <K_Nine> histo:  There is no entry for rar in the man pages on my terminal.
[00:58] <ePax> histo: Ok. Withouth - ? like -e?
[00:58] <K_Nine> histo:  Without the  -
[00:58] <Shadow6363> are there any good guides on how one should partition their drives?
[00:58] <histo> ePax: yeah that program is a little goofy comands don't need the dash only switches
[00:58] <jeffMASTERflex> K_Nine: install rar. "sudo aptitude install rar"
[00:58] <ePax> histo: Now it works. Thnx.
[00:58] <phasegen> anyone help with a quick problem?  Logging into gnome I get an error message that says user's " $HOME/.dmrc " should only be writeable by user, and permissions should be 644.  How do I fix it?  I tried on my own to no avail.
[00:58] <histo> K_Nine: do you have unrar installed?
[00:58] <K_Nine> I have rar.
[00:59] <jeffMASTERflex> K_Nine: make sure to install unrar also
[00:59] <macgruber> hi, suddenly, my gnome-terminal doesn't start.. the process is frozen, someone can helpme?
[00:59] <histo> macgruber: killall gnome-terminal then try again.
[00:59] <ePax> histo: I didnt know that unrar didnt need any dashs. Thnx again :D
[00:59] <mnemonica> Hey. After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[00:59] <histo> ePax: not for commands it doesn't but it does for switches
[00:59] <jeffMASTERflex> K_Nine: you should definitely have the man for both rar and unrar once installed
[01:00] <histo> ePax: if you type unrar with nothing in terminal you will see what I mean.
[01:00] <macgruber> histo, i already do that, and reboot several times..
[01:00] <K_Nine> histo:  I found it, just type rar in a terminal. not unrar or man rar or unrar.
[01:00] <histo> K_Nine: yeah you don't have unrar installed
[01:00] <Jay955> i need help please
[01:00] <K_Nine> unrar
[01:00] <orgthingy> can someone explain why is ubuntu that complicated to use as "desktop_use" ?
[01:00] <syntaxerror55> how do I tell bash to move *.gif, *.jpg and *.png to a folder?
[01:00] <orgthingy> why dont they simply make ubuntu like the simple "windows"
[01:01] <syntaxerror55> orgthingy: that's an easy one. It isn't
[01:01] <overclucker> sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[01:01] <orgthingy> i hate windows
[01:01] <ePax> histo: I did that but i just typed dashs kinda automaticly :D
[01:01] <K_Nine> macgruber:  Typing in unrar No manual entry. Tying in rar did it.
[01:01] <bad_cables> YAY! i think i fixed it with the ndiswrapper... we will see how long this connection stays up!
[01:01] <ePax> Now another question. Where do i download playstation emulator bios and how do I start PBP games?
[01:01] <mouseboyx> Can someone help me with an ajax script i have http://pastebin.com/mc12f93b and it does nothing, it should alert the contents of http://www.google.com/
[01:02] <macgruber> K_Nine,  i have no idea how i can do that.. :S (yes i am newbie)
[01:02] <syntaxerror55> mouseboyx: #ajax
[01:02] <smallfoot-> i ABSOLTUELY LOVE the ubuntu servers, did they sneak some server with SAS RAID disks into my basement with optical fiber or what? today, when I used Update Manager, it downloaded 9300 kbyte/s
[01:02] <jeffMASTERflex> mouseboyx: wrong channel. try an ajax, ecmascript or javascript channel
[01:02] <Jay955> i just installed for the first time ubuntu, 1st i can see my secondary drive
[01:02] <stumac> hy
[01:02] <Rufus__> mouseboyx, this is a ubuntu help channel, not a scripting help channel
[01:02] <syntaxerror55> smallfoot-: :D
[01:02] <stumac> how to make website in php with ubuntu?
[01:02] <smallfoot-> syntaxerror55, yeah thats CRAZY
[01:02] <benanzo> When I try to use wget I get this: "Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name."
[01:03] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/funny/female-vs-male-war/ lool
[01:03] <Kitar|st> loool
[01:03] <benanzo> I had been using a proxy in Gnome's proxy settings but have since disabled it
[01:03] <Kloss> hi amarok is not working well. so has anyone another suggestion for an application able to move mp3s from my Hd to my mp3 player and vice versa?
[01:03] <Tygir> another compiz question....i have wobbly windows enabled...but the window always appears to be "stuck" to the top of bottom of my screen....if that makes sense?
[01:03] <syntaxerror55> Kitar|st: Please don't do that in here.
[01:03] <benanzo> I wonder why wget is doing this?
[01:03] <smallfoot-> it said "update is 400 megabyte, it will take 50 minutes on high-speed internet or 50 hours on dial-up", and i clicked "next" and it said "1 minute remaining, 9300 kbyte/s downloading"
[01:03] <Phoenix92x> has anyone had any luck installing the UDF 2.5 filesystem?
[01:03] <phasegen> anyone help with a quick problem?  Logging into gnome I get an error message that says user's " $HOME/.dmrc " should only be writeable by user, and permissions should be 644.  How do I fix it?  I tried on my own to no avail.
[01:03] <LjL> !ot > Kitar|st    (Kitar|st, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:04] <drunkmuppet> Ok, I am running xubuntu on vmware, and i can change the resolution but the text is tiny. Any way to adjust this?
[01:04] <K_Nine> The command to unrar is rar e <file name>
[01:04] <Kitar|st> ok thanks
[01:04] <Starnestommy> phasegen: in a terminal, chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[01:04] <lanzelloth> what is super and hyper key?
[01:04] <lanzelloth> i wanna use windows key for shortcuts
[01:04] <syntaxerror55> lanzelloth: It's the Windows key
[01:04] <LjL> drunkmuppet: probably wrong DPI. do « xdpyinfo | grep dimensions »
[01:05] <wyseur> howdy everyone
[01:05] <alsadk> whats about "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.", what can i do?
[01:05] <jeffMASTERflex> K_Nine: over here it's unrar -e <filename>
[01:05] <wyseur> got a prob over here: can't mount my external firewire HD
[01:05] <drunkmuppet> returned 800x600
[01:05] <wyseur> prob with sdp2
[01:05] <phasegen> starnestommy: thank you
[01:05] <wyseur> anybody has a clue?
[01:05] <LjL> drunkmuppet: i care about the millimeters, not the resolution
[01:06] <xenthro> Q: I just got a linksys WUSB54G with ralink chipset. It works, but when I tell iwconfig to put it into monitor mode, it says the device is busy. any ideas?
[01:06] <drunkmuppet> LjL 427x267 mm
[01:06] <Kloss> is there a tool showing me how much ink is still in my printers? (wind*wslike?)
[01:06] <benanzo> I have verified in gconf that there are no proxies set but wget still gives error
[01:06] <some_dude1> hi
[01:06] <DiAbLo19> Hello some_dude1
[01:06] <jeffMASTERflex> Kloss: at least with my HP printer, it tells me when my ink is low
[01:06] <LjL> drunkmuppet: widescreen?
[01:07] <drunkmuppet> yes
[01:07] <LjL> drunkmuppet: then it's probably right, i guess the cause must be somewhere else
[01:07] <LjL> Kloss: which brand?
[01:07] <mouseboyx> No one in ajax helps.
[01:07] <some_dude1> anyone here want to help me with my new project, I want to play movies and stuff and X and bla bla bla
[01:07] <drunkmuppet> i see.
[01:07] <drunkmuppet> want me to screen schot what im talkign about?
[01:07] <prozak> thumper?
[01:07] <Jay955> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and i have a few problem can anyone help me please 1st i can see my secondary drive
[01:08] <chris__> when connecting to my server cups keeps saying forbidden ;(, why.........
[01:08] <mouseboyx> Can someone help me with an ajax script i have http://pastebin.com/mc12f93b and it does nothing, it should alert the contents of http://www.google.com/  ... I know ##ajax No one helps.
[01:08] <overclucker> some_dude1: are you asking how to play viedeos on ubuntu?
[01:08] <Starnestommy> mouseboyx: maybe #web ?
[01:08] <some_dude1> well I want to setup  a terminal server/client, but I'm going to want to play movies and music on the client
[01:08] <smallfoot-> there is google.com/linux, i wonder if there will be a google.com/ubuntu :p
[01:08] <some_dude1> you know you want to help
[01:08] <LjL> drunkmuppet: if you want... not sure i can think of anything else than the DPI though
[01:08] <jeffMASTERflex> mouseboyx: you are in the wrong channel. this is ubuntu support. try an ajax, ecmascript or javascript channel
[01:08] <drunkmuppet> alright
[01:09] <Kloss> LjL: one brand is canon the other one is epson.
[01:09] <syntaxerror55> !attitude | some_dude1
[01:09] <ubotu> some_dude1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:09] <ouroborous> if anyone has a moment, i'm having a problem with clock drift in an intel quad-core 64-bit install
[01:10] <LjL> Kloss: for Epson, you have "mtink" and "escputil". for canon, "ink" might work.
[01:10] <overclucker> some_dude1: oh, heh good, when you find out, you can tell me, cause i had the same unanswered question not long ago
[01:10] <some_dude1> now hold on, there was no attitude what so ever
[01:10] <syntaxerror55> some_dude1: <some_dude1> you know you want to help and 'bla bla bla'
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> lol
[01:11] <some_dude1> simply implying that your life would be more enriched and fun by helping me with a project does not convay attitude
[01:11] <xenthro> Q: how do i find out the name of the driver that my usb wifi is using?
[01:11] <Tygir> another compiz question....i have wobbly windows enabled...but the window always appears to be "stuck" to the top of bottom of my screen....if that makes sense?
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> €LOOOOLL
[01:11] <chris__> when connecting to my server cups keeps saying forbidden ;(, why.........
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> thats so funny
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> lol
[01:11] <syntaxerror55> some_dude1: lol
[01:11] <LjL> DiAbLo19: don't spam please
[01:11] <Kloss> ljL: i will try them. thank you.
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> ???
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> spam
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> im not spamming
[01:11] <DiAbLo19> lol
[01:12] <benanzo> can I pipe wget's stdout to curl's stdin?  I'm trying to download a file and simultaneously upload it to FTP
[01:12] <LjL> yes you are
[01:12] <LjL> !etiquette > DiAbLo19    (DiAbLo19, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:12] <jeffMASTERflex> !enter | DiAbLo19
[01:12] <ubotu> DiAbLo19: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:12] <chris__> Ljl what i +z?
[01:12] <linxeh> heh
[01:12] <K_Nine> You guys are right. On my distro, unrar was not installed, only rar.
[01:12] <LjL> !modes > chris__    (chris__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:12] <benanzo> 'wget http://www.someurl.com/file -O - | curl -T - ftp://ftp.server.com/directory'
[01:12] <LjL> benanzo: wget ... -O - | curl ...
[01:12] <some_dude1> but I think what I want simply can't be done with the current level of techology.
[01:12] <histo> Anyone familiar with backtrack i'm trying to install to usb getting an error with the bootinst.sh script
[01:13] <Kloss> ljL: you also know an answer to this? hi amarok is not working well. so has anyone another suggestion for an application able to move mp3s from my Hd to my mp3 player and vice versa?+
[01:13] <benanzo> For some reason it won't work though
[01:13] <LjL> Kloss: uhm... any file manager? :)
[01:13] <linxeh> Kloss: itunes? songbird?
[01:13] <lanzelloth_> how do i mount cd images?
[01:13] <linxeh> Kloss: shell prompt?
[01:13] <linxeh> :o
[01:13] <chris__> i like +z lol
[01:13] <LjL> DiAbLo19: nobody's forcing you to stay. please abide by the rules or find somewhere else to be.
[01:13] <overclucker> some_dude1: i think your best bet would be to ask in ##networking
[01:13] <drunkmuppet> heres a link to my problem. http://i26.tinypic.com/2074zte.jpg
[01:13] <chris__> ljl can u help me with my cups problem?
[01:13] <Tygir> nevermind...i got it
[01:14] <overclucker> or whatever channel its called
[01:14] <jeffMASTERflex> Kloss: if you have a regular uiversal mass storage device, use any file manager to transfer files.
[01:14] <LjL> chris__: "connecting to your server" you mean the web frontend?
[01:14] <Kloss> linxeh: shell prompt is no good for me. :) and file managers do not recognize it. i had a little application once installed.
[01:14] <chris__> yeah
[01:14] <lanzelloth_> how do i mount cd images? uif in particular
[01:14] <gortba> Does anyone know about dual booting?
[01:14] <linxeh> Kloss: what mp3 player is it ?
[01:14] <linxeh> gortba: many people. ask your question :)
[01:14] <Jay955> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and i have a few problem can anyone help me please 1st i can see my secondary drive
[01:15] <K_Nine> lanzelloth aren
[01:15] <linxeh> gortba: I've had quadruple ad quintuple booting systems before now
[01:15] <Kloss> linxeh: it is a creative ZEN microphoto 8 GB.
[01:15] <linxeh> Kloss: ouch ;-)
[01:15] <lanzelloth_> K_Nine: aren?
[01:15] <K_Nine> lanzelloth aren't uif proprietary to "magic iso's" ?
[01:15] <Kloss> linxeh: why ouch?
[01:15] <Jay955> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and i have a few problem can anyone help me please 1st i can't see my secondary drive
[01:15] <thomas__> whats new wih ubuntu?
[01:15] <Kloss> linxeh: you know a solution?
[01:15] <lanzelloth_> K_Nine: hmm, i think so
[01:16] <jeffMASTERflex> uif and daa are horrible proprietary image formats. sorry you got stuck with those
[01:16] <overclucker> Jay955: what are you doing to look for it?
[01:16] <gortba> Ok. Currently I have two HDD both with autonomous systems. One of them windows, the second is linux. I can't get grub to boot the windows disk. As of right now the only way for me to boot the windows disk is to change the boot order in BIOS each time.
[01:16] <overclucker> Jay955: sudo fdisk -l ?
[01:16] <K_Nine> lanzelloth go back to your bittorrent site and try to find a different file.
[01:16] <gortba> How do I get grub to boot the Windows disk? I've altered grub many times and can't figure it out.
[01:17] <lanzelloth_> uif FTL
[01:17] <Dr_willis> gortba,  where is the windows disk at? theres an example grub entry in menu.lst for  windows on hda1
[01:17] <K_Nine> Well, now i have unrar. Thanks.
[01:17] <linxeh> Kloss: I stopped buying creative stuff a long time ago. too many bad experience wrt drivers and their attitude to floss support
[01:17] <exclampoint> y is ubuntu so hard to use
[01:18] <Kloss> floss?
[01:18] <Jay955> i see it in the partion editor but i don't see it in computer folder in order to mount it
[01:18] <linxeh> Kloss: sorry I don't have a solution for you though. songbird might do what you need
[01:18] <drunkmuppet> I am running xubuntu in vmware and all of my system text is very small. Is there a way to change this. Here is a screenshot of the problem. http://i26.tinypic.com/2074zte.jpg
[01:18] <Dr_willis> exclampoint,  i dont find it hard to use at all. It pay to spend an hr or 2 and read up on linux basics.
[01:18] <gortba> Dr_willis It's hdc right now.
[01:18] <linxeh> Kloss: floss = free/libre/open source
[01:18] <Kloss> linxeh: ok. :-) i will let you know when i managed it. :-)
[01:18] <overclucker> Jay955: can you open a console?
[01:19] <Dr_willis> gortba,  you need to uncomment/edit that example entry  with the proper hd(#.#)  option. and it should boot it.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> gortba,  Grub is one of those tools that its worth while to learn all about.   It has a lot of neat features, and details.
[01:19] <chris__> ljl i only get the error when i try to do something...
[01:20] <TT> What do i need to do to put my home directory on /mnt/sdb1
[01:20] <chris__> ljl i see the front end, but if i browse a page i cant do anything, it does not ask me to login :(
[01:20] <LjL> !cupsweb > chris__    (chris__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:20] <gortba> Ok. That's what I thought. So I think the problem is that I don't have hd(#.#) correct. How do I find out which drive Windows is on?
[01:20] <gortba> I assumed since it was hdc that it would be (hd2, 0) right?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> gortba,  check -->  cat /boot/grub/device.map
[01:21] <Dr_willis> gortba,  grub ignores cdrom/dvd/optical drives in its numbering scheme
[01:21] <benanzo> OK I got 'wget http://www.url.com/file -O - | curl -T - ftp://www.server.com/file' to work.  I'm curious how this is working since my download speed is about 600KB/s but upload is only about 40KB/s -- does wget throttle down the speed?  Or does wget just stop while curl is uploading?
[01:21] <Jay955> open console ??
[01:21] <gortba> ok checking
[01:21] <exclampoint> Dr_willis: well it is. I also think it's a scamm, my friend said linux was great and that I should wipe windows for it, so I did but games dont work and he said try wine so I did but I dont get it
[01:21] <Dr_willis> if hdc is the only disk - it may very well be hd0
[01:21] <chris__> LjL, cups is already a member of shadow...
[01:21] <drunk> why is my system font so tiny >_<
[01:21] <edson> hi guys
[01:22] <thesis> i deleted my panel and now cannot get my madwifi panel icon back, only the network work manager panel icon which does not show my wireless networks, doh!
[01:22] <Dr_willis> exclampoint,  to each their own. I dont find games to be the end-all-thing for my needs.  If i want to game i reboot to windows. If i want to do work/videos/other stuff I use linux.
[01:22] <linxeh> benanzo: that depends on your internet connection. ADSL download will tend to die big time when uploading. here in the UK cable doesnt seem to suffer so badly unless saturated
[01:22] <Dr_willis> exclampoint,  no one is forceing you to use linux. But its so handy to know, i have rescued many a windows system by using my Linux skills.
[01:22] <edson> Which the file that I set the login screen?
[01:22] <TT> Hi everyone
[01:22] <Dr_willis> I made $40 last week rescueing a windows system. :) using a Linux Live cd.
[01:22] <exclampoint> Dr_willis: how do I get back Windows!? i dont have the recovery disk :(
[01:23] <Dr_willis> exclampoint,  no idea. Depends on what you did.
[01:23] <TT> reinstall
[01:23] <linxeh> exclampoint: contact your pc manufacturer and buy one. or take it back to the store
[01:23] <LjL> chris__: weird, it isn't for me.
[01:23] <nat6138> exclampoint: Get a windows disk and format.
[01:23] <K_Nine> exclampoint: you will have to call your machine vendor and pay for cd's.
[01:23] <exclampoint> K_Nine: thats not fair
[01:23] <linxeh> exclampoint: welcome to the evil world of microsoft
[01:23] <nemilar> You will have to "obtain" a Windows CD, exclampoint
[01:23] <gortba> Dr_willis: sdc (window HDD) is not shown when I do cat /boot/grub/device.map
[01:24] <linxeh> exclampoint: why is that not fair? thats what you get for buying a cheap pc
[01:24] <gortba> What does that mean?
[01:24] <K_Nine> exclampoint:  if you have a windows sticker on your machine, a good repair shop can reinstall without the disc and make a copy.
[01:24] <TT> I need help moving my home folder to /mnt/sdb1
[01:24] <drunk> Ok, I changed my system font size and now window fonts are HUGE and task menu are normal :(
[01:24] <benanzo> linxeh: I'm on cable so I don't think the saturation is a problem.  I just curious how wget and curl are negotiating since wget downloads so much faster than curl can upload.  Is it just being cached?  I see the wget is only getting it at about 40KB/s which is about what curl should be uploading as, but I can't see where to look at that since I only see wget's output
[01:24] <exclampoint> K_Nine: windows sticker? you mean the cereal number rite
[01:24] <gortba> Dr_willis: I know it's /dev/sdc because that's what fdisk tells me
 bare with me i'm new to this you said open consol ???
[01:24] <drunkmuppet> LoL im int mirc twice :)
[01:25] <edson> Which the file that I set the login screen from gnome?
[01:25] <ATG> chan.org
[01:25] <K_Nine> exclampoint:  There should be sticker on your machine with your windows number.
[01:25] <nemilar> edson: you can set that up through the GUI
[01:25] <nemilar> edson: System - Administration - Login Window
[01:25] <linxeh> benanzo: it will only download as fast as your upload can go
[01:25] <benanzo> OK that makes sense
[01:25] <benanzo> thanks
[01:25] <usr13_> exclampoint: K_Nine:  Or you can borrow a MS CD and do it yourself, but then, will needo to download or somehow acquire a bunch of driver software, etc. But it's doable, (if the sticker is there with the KEY.
[01:26] <exclampoint> K_Nine: i have that sticker yes
[01:26] <Kloss> linxeh: yes. it is working with this software: gnomad2. see also: http://blog.sebastianboettger.net/2006/08/16/creative-zen-micro-photo-geht-doch-mit-linux/
[01:26] <linxeh> benanzo: :) I tend to download the file first, then upload it. saves pain when something goes wrong
[01:26] <usr13_> But, wait... this isn't a MS channel... Is it?
[01:26] <linxeh> Kloss: nice one :)
[01:26] <K_Nine> exclampoint: Then try one of the above.
[01:26] <Kloss> linxeh: BAM!!!
[01:26] <linxeh> Kloss: are you liking the ubuntu experience so far ?
[01:27] <exclampoint> but how come my friedn told me to use this he must have some sense right?? its like i just made more work for myself
[01:27] <benanzo> linxeh: yes I think I will do that instead of using the pipe -- I want wget to be able to -c the dl if it dies which I wouldn't be able to do otherwise
[01:27] <breezznl> Hi- New user of Gutsy Gibben. Has anyon been able to install an Epson Stylus DX8450? I have downloaded the software for linux from epson site and have installed it in every which way I can figure. I still cannot scan. I can print B&W.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> gortba,  you may  want to put it in there then. as (hd2) /dev/hdc
[01:27] <linxeh> exclampoint: I only use Linux or MacOSX now. Windows is too limiting for me
[01:27] <Blunter> Hello
[01:27] <Dr_willis> gortba,  do you have an hda and hdb also?
[01:27] <exclampoint> linxeh: w/e
[01:28] <K_Nine> DX8 Have you tried xsane.
[01:28] <usr13_> exclampoint: But if you have Ubuntu, you should not need MS any more.  Right?
[01:28] <Blunter> I just installed uBuntu, going to My computer, I had my secondary drive, but doubled clicked it and it wouldnt open
[01:28] <gortba> Dr_willis: yes I do. One is unallocated.
[01:28] <Kloss> linxeh: generally i like linux and also ubuntu. but compared to my former wind*ws system ubuntu lacks a lot of drivers.
[01:28] <edson> Installed Ubuntu now little, but the fields that I type login and password, the sources are enormous!  Somebody Help?
[01:28] <Blunter> It said cant mount disk
[01:28] <linxeh> exclampoint: bear in mind that linux is different than windows. it takes a while to get accustomed to it
[01:28] <Blunter> does anyone know why?
[01:28] <nemilar> what's the channel for portugese ubuntu ?
[01:28] <linxeh> Kloss: ah yeah, thats the hardware companies fault though. I've always tended to buy hardware that works on many operating systems deliberately
[01:28] <exclampoint> usr13: i thought it was gonna be like a windows replacement :) except fater and w/o viruses. my friend said its a diff operating sys
[01:28] <linxeh> exclampoint: w/e/ ?
[01:28] <chris__> ljl any other bright ideas?
[01:28] <breezznl> K_nine  Xsane can't find scanner
[01:28] <usr13_> Blunter: You talking about reading the Linux drive from MS Windows?
[01:28] <K_Nine> exclampoint:  Cedega wil allow you to play some Windoze games.
[01:28] <linxeh> exclampoint: it is a windows replacement
[01:29] <exclampoint> linxeh: whatever
[01:29] <benanzo> Anyone have an idea what would be faster latency-wise: transfer over SSH with scp or over SMB -- I think both have quite a bit of overhead right?
[01:29] <Blunter> usr13: Yes
[01:29] <Dr_willis> gortba,  you may want to have entries for all your hds in there. hda = (hd0), hdb = (hd1), hdc=(hd2)
[01:29] <exclampoint> linxeh: it isnt without games, is it?
[01:29] <Blunter> It is a secondary drive I used on windows as a backup.. with data etc
[01:29] <benanzo> This is on a wifi-g LAN
[01:29] <usr13_> Blunter: MS Windows reads only a few different filesystems.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Theres a great many games native to linux. Savage2 is comming out soon also.
[01:29] <Blunter> it was labeled "BackUp" I double clicked it on the file browser, and it said cant mount
[01:29] <Kloss> linxeh: i also bought a all in one hardware which should work, but it isnot, at least not completely. :(
[01:29] <K_Nine> breezznl: Are there drivers for that machine on the HP site?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Or is Savage2 allready out?
[01:29] <exclampoint> Dr_willis: can u help me with counterstrike
[01:29] <Blunter> Now it has disappeared in ubuntu
[01:30] <Blunter> it is a ntfs filesystem
[01:30] <nat6138> exclampoint: Just format and put XP on there.
[01:30] <linxeh> exclampoint: look at cedega and Crossover if you want to run windows software - many popular programs will run just fine. there are often free alternatives though that are as good, sometimes better, sometimes slightly lacking, but I don't think I'd go back to windows full time. I have to use it at work sometimes, and without cygwin I find it awful
[01:30] <Dr_willis> exclampoint,  not really - i dont play games much with wine. theres #wine and the various wine web sites for game tips/tweaks for specific games and wine
[01:30] <usr13_> Blunter: Linux reads and writes many different types of filesystems, including FAT16, FAT32, NTFS etc. etc. etc.
[01:30] <linxeh> exclampoint: counterstrike runs great with cedega apparently
[01:30] <breezznl> K_Nine: I haven't checked the HP site. It is an Epson. I have downloaded drivers from the epson site for linux.
[01:30] <Dr_willis> I have been playing TeamFortress2 On my windows box. :P
[01:31] <linxeh> Kloss: what hardare?
[01:31] <Blunter> usr13: do you know waht can be wrong?
[01:31] <linxeh> exclampoint: what computer do you have ?
[01:31] <exclampoint> linxeh: there are actuallly many nice features, like the multidesktops lol but its hardd and ok illlook
[01:31] <K_Nine> breezznl:  Then beyond me. Sorry.
[01:31] <a3p> mmm ... I accidentally removed a drive from my Desktop - now the drive does not get mounted automatically, till I reboote, for the UUID is still in use. Does anyone know a way to unlock the uuid (other than changing the devices UUID)?
[01:31] <linxeh> exclampoint: anything worthwhile is always hard
[01:32] <breezznl> K_Nine: Thanx. I refuse to believe it is impossible. I will keep trying!
[01:32] <usr13_> Blunter: Wrong?  With what?  I may have missed the subject of your question.
[01:32] <exclampoint> linxeh: but i could have been fine w/windows but i guess i dont want to pay for pc repair and if cs works ok :)
[01:32] <jickles> anyone using kde4?
[01:32] <nemilar> jickles: you'll probably have more luck in the #kubuntu channel
[01:32] <Kloss> EPSON Stylus DX5000. According to this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersEpson it should work. but the scanning device isnot working.
[01:32] <jickles> nemilar, ok
[01:32] <linxeh> exclampoint: well, you dont need to pay for pc repair. I built my own PCs from the age of 13 (I'm 29 now)
[01:32] <usr13_> Blunter: Please explain the situation a little more clearly.
[01:32] <nemilar> Kloss: you tried in Xsane?
[01:32] <Blunter> usr13: Private message or here?
[01:32] <K_Nine> jickles:  I am waiting for KDE 4.1
[01:32] <linxeh> exclampoint: do you mean CS or CS:Source?
[01:33] <exclampoint> linxeh: wow, ur a geek lol. anyway, i have a hp laptop
[01:33] <exclampoint> and i mean counterstrike
[01:33] <linxeh> exclampoint:  :)
[01:33] <Blunter> Sorry
[01:33] <usr13_> Blunter: Either way you like.
[01:33] <Blunter> pl
[01:33] <Blunter> ok
[01:33] <Murrlin> evening all
[01:33] <Kloss> nemilar: sure.
[01:33] <nemilar> Kloss: no-go?
[01:33] <Murrlin> after the updates, will my logoff button no longer be broke?
[01:33] <Kloss> nemilar: nogo
[01:33] <usr13_> Blunter: Here is ok.
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Often its a good idea with laptops to just have a  spare laptop hd. you can plug in, and test out linux on. :) then if you dont like it. You put the windows hd back in.
[01:34] <xomp> can someone explain how I have 2 battery notifications on my laptop, 1 says I have over 3 hours of battery left 99% charged, the other says I have 55 minutes left 97% charged?
[01:34] <linxeh> Dr_willis: or just a usb drive. most laptops will boot from usb etc
[01:34] <Dr_willis> linxeh,  ive seen/hear of toomany issues with installing to a usb hd lately.
[01:34] <linxeh> Dr_willis: shrug - works for me :)
[01:34] <Blunter> usr13: I wrote what happened in a Priv message
[01:34] <Dr_willis> linxeh,  But the usb-hd is what you do with the 'extra' hd :) whenyou decide to stay with linux. heh heh.
[01:35] <linxeh> Dr_willis: it depends on the machines though
[01:35] <nemilar> Kloss: is it a DX5000 or a CX5000?
[01:35] <gortba> Dr_Willis: I'm confused now. My boot.conf boots linux from (hd0,0). From device.map, I get that hd0 is hdb. The linux image is on hda from according to fdisk. Should create the proper entries based on fdisk?
[01:35] <exclampoint> linxeh: cool ill buy cedega sounds awsome
[01:35] <exclampoint> linxeh: ty
[01:35] <Kloss> DX5000
[01:35] <Kloss> nemilar: DX5000
[01:35] <Dr_willis> gortba,  fdisk does not enumerate drives the same way as grub does.  If grub says hdb is hd0, then hdc would be hd1 most likely
[01:35] <X-TREME> Hi, I am having trouble with ubuntu, specifically using grub loader
[01:35] <Decinoge> this is shamefull... having to use photoshop on ubunto to convert 32bit png to 8bit png
[01:36] <Blunter> usr13_: Did you get my private message
[01:36] <nemilar> Kloss: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330031 ?
[01:36] <usr13_> Blunter: I'm using irssi, and I guess I missed what-ever private message you may have sent. Sorry.  But.... just a sec.
[01:36] <K_Nine> Decinoge:  I use Photoshop. But you can only install up to version 7. I did with CrossOver Office.
[01:37] <gortba> Dr_willis: thanks. I'm going to try to get everything right then.
[01:37] <X-TREME> I am trying to dualboot windowsXP and ubuntu but winXP is not showing up in GRUB loader
[01:37] <Decinoge> CrossOver Office... thank you very much
[01:37] <nemilar> !dualboot
[01:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:37] <Decinoge> (i also use 7, that's my favourite for pixel)
[01:37] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, how can I set up samba so any one on the network can connect and edit etc with out a password?
[01:37] <nemilar> !dualboot > X-TREME
[01:37] <nemilar> solexious: yes you can
[01:38] <xomp> can someone explain how I have 2 battery notifications on my laptop, 1 (battery charge monitor) says I have over 3 hours of battery left 99% charged, the other (power management) says I have 55 minutes left 97% charged?
[01:38] <X-TREME> But its not that, my problem is a bit different, can I explain it to you in a pm? or should I do it here?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> !samba | solexious
[01:38] <ubotu> solexious: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:38] <nemilar> solexious: if you google for setting up samba, you'll probably find a guide
[01:38] <Kloss> nemilar: thanks. i will try so. :-) that is a little light at the horizon.
[01:38] <nemilar> X-TREME: do it here, so everyone can see
[01:38] <usr13_> Blunter: Just say what you need to say here.
[01:38] <nemilar> Kloss: I'm sure you'll be able to get it working, Epson printers are pretty friendly .... usually plug-n-play
[01:38] <Dr_willis> solexious,   the book 'using samba' is in the samba-doc package. it is a 300+ Page HTML book that gives exaples/docs and info on that also.
[01:38] <Blunter> ok
[01:38] <DFlamed> Does anyone know an open source alternative to something like say.... Dreamweaver or FrontPage?
[01:39] <Blunter> Ok.. So I had Windows vista on 1 drive, and data on another drive. I installed Ubuntu on the windows vista drive. Now I boot up into uBuntu, and see my second drive which is NTFS labeled "BackUp"
[01:39] <Blunter>  I double click it, it doesnt open.. Then after a minute or so it says it cant mount the drive
[01:39] <solexious> nemilar: Have tried that mate, so far only setting it up with accounts :s
[01:39] <Blunter>  Now under the file browser, the drive doesnt even appear anymore
[01:39] <usr13_> DFlamed: vim, bluefish, ....others I don't remember.
[01:39] <nemilar> solexious: you _can_ set it up that way, but really... do you want to??
[01:39] <DFlamed> I'll look into both, ta :)
[01:39] <nemilar> DFlamed: bluefish is my fav
[01:40] <solexious> nem: yes
[01:40] <X-TREME> ok I have a Laptop with a recovery partition (which loads Vista), a WindowsXP partition and another partition with Ubuntu. When I boot my laptop, grub comes up and I only see ubuntu and Vista loader but not WinXP, how can I boot into winxp? It is already installed on my laptop, I installed XP before installing Ubuntu.
[01:40] <Milos_SD> I have problem with Gutsy freezing. I have Core2Duo E6550, 2x1GB Kingston 800Mhz and Nvidia 7600GT (169.09 driver, bit freezing was on drivers from repositories).  And yes, I have Leadtek Winfast 2000/XP Expert TV card, if that helps. Does anybody know how can I fix this?
[01:41] <nemilar> X-TREME: if you try re-configuring grub, does it see XP?
[01:41] <X-TREME> how do I reconfig grub?
[01:41] <nemilar> X-TREME: worst comes to worst you can add it by hand
[01:41] <X-TREME> i am new to linux.
[01:41] <nemilar> X-TREME: you didn't read the documentation about dualboot
[01:41] <nemilar> !dualboot > X-TREME
[01:41] <X-TREME> ok ill read it.
[01:41] <Blunter> usr13: did u get that?
[01:41] <xomp> can someone explain how I have 2 battery notifications on my laptop, 1 (battery charge monitor) says I have over 3 hours of battery left 99% charged, the other (power management) says I have 55 minutes left 97% charged? (x3)
[01:42] <K_Nine> xcomp I think this is the third time you asked. Maybe you should do a post on the forums.
[01:42] <Cpudan80> xomp: The 55 minute one is for the time remaining till full charge, ignore it
 any amd64 users got mixx to run?
[01:42] <Mixx> =D
[01:42] <Cpudan80> It is NEVER accurate
[01:43] <xomp> Cpudan80, thanks :)
[01:43] <Cpudan80> xomp: The discharge meters are pretty accurate though
[01:43] <smallfoot-> http://xkcd.com/353/
[01:43] <usr13_> Blunter: Yes.  And I DID missunderstand.  You are trying to read the NTFS filesystem on another drive, and I do not have an answer for that problem.  I do not know why you cannot read it.
[01:43] <Codenut> I have two workspaces now to choose from as a desktop, how do I get more using Ubuntu 7.04?
[01:43] <xomp> Cpudan80, I've been dealing with battery issues for several months now and got a 3rd replacement battery, was curious why ubuntu was reporting different times, thought maybe this battery was snafu too!
[01:44] <jlulian38> ,`
[01:44] <Cpudan80> xomp: Nah prob not
[01:44] <usr13_> Codenut: 7.10 is the latest version.  You should upgrade.
[01:44] <xenthro> Q: how do i find out what driver my wifi card is using? its a linksys wusb54g rev 4
[01:44] <xomp> Codenut, right click the workspace and choose 4 columns
[01:44] <Get_A_Fix> Codenut: right click on the workspaces and increase the number of colums
[01:44] <Cpudan80> xomp: Your BIOS probably limits charging above a certain % too (why it says 55 minutes vs say 10)
[01:44] <overcluckerLIMBO> Blunter: are you having trouble mounting ntfs?
[01:44] <xomp> Codenut, sorry, right-click workspace, properties and put 4 in columns for 4 workspaces :)
[01:45] <X-TREME> the documentation says the the recovery partition will cause me to have problems so is there anyway I can remove it now?
[01:45] <xomp> Cpudan80, I think it does, there is an option to "calibrate battery" in there that makes no sense to me.
[01:45] <Blunter> overlucker: yes
[01:45] <usr13_> xenthro: I think  you need ndiswrapper
[01:46] <overcluckerLIMBO> Blunter: can you yes it to mount at all?
[01:46] <usr13_> xenthro: sudo apt-get ndiswrapper
[01:46] <Blunter> I dont know how?
[01:46] <xenthro> usr13_ I don't.
[01:46] <overcluckerLIMBO> s/yes/get
[01:46] <xomp> Cpudan80, would you know why I can't ping my workstation by netbios name when I connect over VPN?
[01:46] <xenthro> usr13_ It works.. i just cant put it into monitor mode
[01:46] <xomp> Cpudan80, I can ping the workstations IP, but not netbios name.
[01:47] <usr13_> Blunter: Have you finished doing updates on your Ubuntu 7.10 system yet?
[01:47] <Blunter> yea
[01:47] <Blunter> Just did them all
[01:47] <usr13_> xenthro: monitor mode?  What is "monitor mode"?
[01:47] <Cpudan80> xomp: Yeah, Ubuntu does the DNS stuff differently than windows, prob nothing you can do about it
[01:48] <xomp> Cpudan80, yeah, I was thinking ubuntu couldn't see the alt. dns names for our domain.
[01:48] <Cpudan80> xomp: you could add the DNS server to your list --- not sure what that would do if its not available (ie not connected)
[01:48] <xenthro> usr13_ long explanation...  suggest you google it
[01:48] <xomp> Cpudan80, the weird thing is I can ping.. say our MS Exchange server by netbios name, but not my workstation lol
[01:48] <Cpudan80> xomp: System --> Admin --> Networking --> DNS
[01:49] <Cpudan80> xomp: add the DNS server
[01:49] <Jay955> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and i have a few problem can anyone help me please 1st i can't see my secondary drive
[01:49] <Blunter> jay: me either
[01:50] <usr13_> xenthro: Kismet may be what  you are looking for... but still not sure what monitor mode is.
[01:50] <xomp> Cpudan80, thanks, I'll give it a try now. My apologize if I disconnect from here (as it usually does when I connect to VPNc) Thanks so much for the help :)
 do you see it in my computer
[01:50] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: do you know how to open a console?
[01:50] <usr13_> xenthro: Are you wanting to snoop other people's networks?  Or... ?
[01:50] <Blunter> nop
[01:51] <Jay955> console = terminal
[01:51] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: Blunter: you may need to add a line to your /etc/fstab
[01:51] <usr13_> Jay955: What is on the second drive?
[01:51] <X-TREME> How do I format all my windows partitions on my laptop from ubuntu?
[01:52] <bardyr> q/gparted
[01:52] <nemilar> use gparted, X-TREME
[01:52] <Jay955> nothing it a 20 gig ntsf
[01:52] <slyf_> Hey
[01:52] <X-TREME> What about Gnome partition editor?
[01:52] <Get_A_Fix> jay995  Applications>Accessories>Terminal  to get a console window
[01:52] <slyf_> How do I mount cdrom as my user?
[01:52] <Jay955> ok i got that
[01:52] <usr13_> X-TREME: Depends on what type of filesystem you want to put on them.
[01:52] <X-TREME> ntfs
[01:52] <Tygir> i have a dell inspiron 1525...what app should i be using to be using the camera on the laptop?
[01:52] <usr13_> X-TREME: mkfs
[01:52] <slyf_> I keep getting permission denied to get into /media/cdrom0 or any directory like that
[01:52] <usr13_> X-TREME: man mkfs
[01:52] <X-TREME> what is mkfs?
[01:53] <xenthro> usr13_ yes, actually, but its more about getting a fully functional setup that i can use all 5 modes
[01:53] <smallfoot-> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=437640&cid=22256602
[01:53] <nemilar> X-TREME: Gnome Partition Editor _is_ gparted
[01:53] <usr13_> xenthro: What are the 5 modes?
[01:53] <X-TREME> ok ty
[01:53] <Jay955> i see the drive in gnome
[01:53] <usr13_> memic: He wants to format.
[01:54] <xenthro> usr13_ managed, Ad-hoc, monitor, repeater and... i forget the last one
[01:54] <usr13_> nemilar: He wants to format, not re-partition.
[01:54] <Tygir> any ideas?
[01:54] <lilyth> how do I change my default sound devince, to that *everything* uses it, rather than changing each program.
[01:54] <nemilar> usr13: gparted can format
[01:54] <usr13_> xenthro: iwconfig
[01:54] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: does it can you mount it?
[01:54] <usr13_> xenthro: See:  man iwconfig
[01:54] <lilyth> Ive tried changing it in SWound Preferences
[01:54] <Jay955> no i can't
[01:54] <xenthro> usr13_ i am well familiar with it.
[01:54] <overcluckerLIMBO> 'can you mount it?'
[01:54] <nemilar> usr13: formatting is a big part of repartitioning
[01:55] <usr13_> nemilar: Formatting and partitioning are two different tasks.
[01:55] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: from terminal, sudo fdisk -l
[01:55] <Jay955> i only see the drive in gnome
[01:55] <slyf_> How do I mount cdrom as my user?
[01:55] <slyf_> I keep getting permission denied to get into /media/cdrom0 or any directory like that
[01:55] <nemilar> usr13: yes, I know that.  But after you create a partition, you generally want to format it.
[01:55] <nemilar> usr13: and gparted can do both.
[01:55] <usr13_> nemilar: You are correct.
[01:55] <thesis> anyone using a eee?
[01:55] <Jay955> ok 1 sec
[01:55] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: that will list all disks/partitions
[01:56] <thesis> how do i get the ndiswrapper or madwifi panel icon back?
[01:57] <lilyth> no one knows how to change my default soundd evice?
[01:57] <Jay955> all i get is invalid option --1
[01:57] <lilyth> cool
[01:57] <tcpdumpgod> .
[01:57] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: l is a lowercase L
[01:57] <Jay955> ok 1 sec
[01:58] <tcpdumpgod> Hey guys, what could cause tcpdump to give this error "packets dropped by kernel"?
[01:58] <Jay955> ok i got the info
[01:58] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone?
[01:58] <thesis> ow do i get the ndiswrapper or madwifi panel icon back?
[01:58] <Tygir> how would i use my camera installed in my laptop?
[01:58] <tcpdumpgod> Bad CAT5 cable? Bad internet connection?
[01:58] <kenan> i was trying to get my mic on my webcam working, i got it working partially but now i cant play music because it says my soundcard might not be configured properly or the right output device isnt selected, how can i fix this?
[01:58] <smallfoot-> is EDID broken in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <PriceChild> thesis, is this a different icon to "nm-applet"?
[01:59] <nemilar> tcpdumpgod: ping something for a while, see what your network is like
[01:59] <overcluckerLIMBO> !fstab > Jay955
[02:00] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: Firewall could be blocking, "dropping packets".
[02:00] <Jay955> ??
[02:01] <nemilar> SOMEONE ASK A QUESTION
[02:01] <Get_A_Fix> kenan: System>Preferences>Sound  try looking there
[02:01] <plen0x_> How could compiz be any more awesome?
[02:01] <nemilar> plen0x_: by not being buggy :)
[02:01] <Rufus__> I downloaded compiz, how can I start the peel function? like compiz-fusion
[02:01] <plen0x_> nemilar, works fine for me :D
[02:01] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: sudo iptables -L
[02:02] <nemilar> plen0x_: yeah I got it working great after a few days of playing with it...and then I turned it off
[02:02] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: cat /etc/fstab
[02:02] <plen0x_> nemilar, weee, beep fest! Anyway. I only use it for the expo feature. And the drawing with fire.
[02:02] <plen0x_> If you don't like some one, you can burn their window. It's like virtual hate.
[02:02] <Rufus__> does anyone know about that?
[02:02] <kenan> Get_A_Fix: all the sound playback tests work and sound on the internet works so im not sure how to fix this
[02:03] <nemilar> plen0x_: maybe you can help out Rufus__
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Rufus__,  install the ccsm tool. run it, check out all the keybindings for what does what feature
[02:03] <Rufus__> thanks
[02:03] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | Rufus__
[02:03] <plen0x_> nemilar, to late. Dr_willis just gave him my answer as I typed it.
[02:03] <ubotu> Rufus__: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[02:03] <Jay955> brb
[02:03] <Get_A_Fix> kenan: then what doesn't work
[02:04] <kaz1nsky> im having problems getting rtorrents port open to the internet, can anyone help?
[02:04] <kenan> Get_A_Fix: playing my mp3 files
[02:04] <nemilar> kaz1nsky: router forwarding?
[02:04] <kaz1nsky> yea
[02:04] <nemilar> kaz1nsky: what's the exact problem?  do you have the port forwarded in the router?
[02:04] <usr13_> kenan: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:05] <kaz1nsky> i have the port range forwarded on the router to my computer
[02:05] <Tygir> i do i use my laptops installed webcam?
[02:05] <heartsblood> I know this is a really noobie question to ask but is it possible to sort by artiest in the Rhythmbox play que?
[02:05] <kaz1nsky> dmz usually works too but i cant get it to now that ive installed ubuntu
[02:05] <Dr_willis> !webcam | Tygir
[02:05] <ubotu> Tygir: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:05] <kenan> usr13_: thats the program im using for playing music but it suddenly stopped working after i tried to configure my mic
[02:05] <kaz1nsky> is there something i have to do in addition in linux?
[02:05] <nemilar> no
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Tygir,  first is tocheck to see if its even supported under linux.  Ive had bery bad luck with my webcams.. None had linux support.
[02:05] <usr13_> kenan: Mute mic
[02:06] <kenan> usr13_: how
[02:06] <usr13_> kenan: Bring up the mixer and see what's on and off, down and up.
[02:06] <usr13_> kenan: Open Volume Control
[02:06] <overcluckerLIMBO> heartsblood: open rhythmbox and look
[02:06] <usr13_> kenan: gnome-volume-control
[02:07] <heartsblood> overcluckerLIMBO, I'm looking, I see no 'sort by' option, and the colum for artists can't be manipulated
[02:07] <usr13_> kenan: or right click the speaker icon and choose:  "Open Volume Control"
[02:07] <ngarayana> ata
[02:08] <Jay955> ok i got fstab open
[02:08] <kenan> usr13_: yeah im there
[02:08] <usr13_> kenan: Good :)
[02:08] <compy> how do i tell the path to my cdrom or dvdrom?
[02:08] <compy> is there a command?
[02:08] <tcpdumpgod> nemilar usr13 thanks for the responce... I have ICMP disabled so I cant do ping -f tests...
[02:08] <usr13_> compy: ls /media/disk
[02:08] <ader10> freenx vs vnc? I have tried both. Freenx doesn't let me connect to my existing desktop session but is fast, and vnc does let me, but it is far slower
[02:08] <usr13_> compy: ls /media/
[02:09] <tcpdumpgod> Firewall could be doing it... but its @ a Datacenter so im doubting that is the culprit.
[02:09] <compy> thanks ^^
[02:09] <Tygir> Dr_willis: when i try and use camorama...i get could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[02:09] <compy> so it would be /media/cdrom?
[02:09] <nemilar> tcpdumpgod: if it's at a DC, can't you just ask the techs to take a look at it?  that's what you're paying for
[02:09] <compy> or atleast whats what it shows
[02:09] <kenan> usr13_: i tried disabling all the microphone settings
[02:09] <kenan> its still not working
[02:09] <tcpdumpgod> Well, its actually a snort box on a clients network at a datacenter.
[02:09] <usr13_> kenan: Is PCM turned down?
[02:10] <tcpdumpgod> I'd have to create a ticket, big pain in the hiney.
[02:10] <vijay_Pan> hello
[02:10] <tcpdumpgod> So i wanna make sure its that before I do so.
[02:10] <kenan> usr13_:no
[02:10] <nemilar> tcpdumpgod: yeah, dc's are known for their ticket-handling
[02:10] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah, NOT!
[02:10] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: iptables -L
[02:10] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[02:10] <nemilar> tcpdumpgod: sounds like something you'd want them to take a look at, though
[02:10] <tcpdumpgod> ok usr13, doing that now.
[02:10] <compy> using dd i get this error dd: reading `/media/cdrom': Is a directory
[02:10] <deme> How do I install a gtk theme?
[02:11] <tcpdumpgod> I think all we have is spoofing protection, let me check usr13
[02:11] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: do you see the partition there?(remember it in fdisk -l)
[02:11] <tcpdumpgod> usr13, nope... its all open.
[02:11] <Jay955> 1 sec
[02:11] <codename> is there any programs for 7.10 that can make Power Points
[02:11] <tcpdumpgod> ACCEPT across the board user13
[02:12] <kenan> codename: openoffice presentation
[02:12] <kaz1nsky_> got disconnected... can anyone help me with my port forwarding issue?
[02:12] <ader10> freenx vs vnc? I have tried both. Freenx doesn't let me connect to my existing desktop session but is fast, and vnc does let me, but it is far slower
[02:12] <codename> Thanks!@
[02:12] <DanThirst> codename: 7.10 supports open office
[02:12] <codename> thanks man
[02:12] <deme> How do I install a gtk theme?
[02:12] <tcpdumpgod> I think i've figured it out user13, i did a "-c 10000" and I think its dropping everything but the 10000 packets i specified.
[02:12] <DanThirst> deme what distro are you using?
[02:12] <deme> Ubuntu
[02:12] <kenan> usr13_: what do i do now
[02:13] <compy> would /dev/hda be my dvdrom or harddrive?
[02:13] <Jay955> no i do not
[02:13] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: Would have to look at what packets are being dropped for clues, may need to look from another machine, (preferrably the one where the packets are coming from).
[02:13] <DanThirst> deme: go to system, preferences, and then appearances.  I'm assuming you'v already downloaded it
[02:13] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  I'm doing a fresh install of 7.10 and my monitor goes out of range... its doing this on 3 different monitors and in normal install and safe graphics install
[02:13] <deme> Yes, I have
[02:13] <GoldeNArX> any way to help me out?
[02:13] <tcpdumpgod> user13 check this out
[02:13] <tcpdumpgod> 10000 packets captured
[02:13] <tcpdumpgod> 231037 packets received by filter
[02:13] <tcpdumpgod> 217049 packets dropped by kernel
[02:13] <DanThirst> deme: you can just chose to in stall the tar.gz from there
[02:13] <tcpdumpgod> 231037 - 217049 does not = 10000 though.
[02:14] <Tygir> Dr_willis: what is weird is that it works in kopete...so doesnt that mean its supported?
[02:14] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: If it is behing a linux firewall, go to that machine and do tcpdump |grep ip.address.here
[02:14] <tcpdumpgod> usr13, whats the easiest way in tcpdump to see dropped packets.
[02:14] <deme> DanThirst: It tells me the file format is invalid
[02:14] <tcpdumpgod> user13, i think its behind a PIX.
[02:14] <achilles> HI , can someone give me a link to the gstream extra plugins .deb ? I need to install it manually since i dont have internet thanks:)
[02:14] <tcpdumpgod> oh being, no its not being a firewall, its a snort box.
[02:14] <quittt> hello
[02:15] <crdlb> achilles: try packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <tcpdumpgod> hi quittt
[02:15] <quittt> how do reinstall Grub after I install Windows?
[02:15] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: Not sure, really...
[02:15] <achilles> ok ill try
[02:15] <tcpdumpgod> i'll "MAN" user13 ;)
[02:15] <ader10> freenx vs vnc? I have tried both. Freenx doesn't let me connect to my existing desktop session but is fast, and vnc does let me, but it is far slower
[02:15] <DanThirst> deme:  http://gnome-look.org/ try finding something you like here, and make sure its supported for your distro and release of that dsitro
[02:15] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: you need to add a similar line: /dev/sda2 /media/sda2mountpoint ntfs-3g defaults,user 0 0
[02:16] <deme> Okay, thanks
[02:16] <usr13_> quittt: Boot the install CD and choose recovery mode, chroot to the Ubuntu root parition and do grub install
[02:16] <Jay955> ok i will try
[02:16] <tcpdumpgod> user13, I think its probably because it's receiving so many packets that it can't keep up.
[02:16] <quittt> usr13, hmm, any install cd?
[02:16] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: I doubt it...
[02:17] <DanThirst> deme: sorry i made an assumption are you even using gnome?
[02:17] <achilles> crdlb its not on site:(
[02:17] <achilles> i need it to play mp3s ect...
[02:17] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  I'm doing a fresh install of 7.10 and my monitor goes out of range... its doing this on 3 different monitors and in normal install and safe graphics install > anyone about to help me out?
[02:17] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: without being able to look at it from the gateway machine, I just don't know...
[02:18] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: make a backup of /etc/fstab, first
[02:18] <DanThirst> GoldeNArX: restart it, in safe graphics mode on the start up
[02:18] <GoldeNArX> DanThirst : I've done that
[02:18] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah user13... i think I may be right... because... they have a lot of machines on the network and its a 10/100 nic.
[02:18] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: then gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[02:18] <DanThirst> GoldeNArX: oh sorry i didn't read all of your message
[02:19] <compy>  so if i were using dd would i use this command dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/compy/Mr_Woodcock.iso
[02:19] <DanThirst> GoldeNArX: try a different video card?
[02:19] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: That's one realy nice advantage to haveing a linux [NAT] gateway. Or... is this machine actually the gateway?
[02:19] <deme> DanThirst: I am and the issue has been solved, thank you.
[02:19] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: Is it dropping packets from outside the LAN?
[02:19] <GoldeNArX> DanThirst : lol I dont have an old agp card kicking around>?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> compy: if you invreease the bs= you can create it faster
[02:20] <DanThirst> pci ? heh
[02:20] <tcpdumpgod> user13, yes.
[02:20] <tcpdumpgod> From outside to in, and inside to out.
[02:20] <wers> what can you say about transmission bit torrent? is it better than deluge or azureus?
[02:20] <wers> I
[02:20] <compy> Jack_Sparrow, it takes about 10 second to do it... its only 368 MB so i have a feelign im not doing it right... does the dvd need to be unmounted before i run the dd command?
[02:20] <wers> 'm looking for a ligh tone
[02:20] <tcpdumpgod> No, its at a BIG datacenter user13.
[02:20] <wers> *light one
[02:20] <tcpdumpgod> I mean BIG.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> compy: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/YourUserName/Desktop/file.iso bs=4k
[02:20] <nemilar> wers: transmission is very light
[02:20] <DanThirst> i'm kinda stuck my self, i keep getting a copy error 5, when i try to install.  I had ubuntu running fine on this machine but i got a grand idea it would be good to format it and reinstall
[02:20] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: O
[02:20] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[02:21] <achilles> anyone have the gstream extra plugins .deb download link?:)
[02:21] <DanThirst> now it gets stuck at 24% and gives me a copy error :-(
[02:21] <quittt> usr13, good
[02:21] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: Maybe there are ways that I don't know about... man tcpdump
[02:21] <wers> wow. transmission looks really good. i  think, I would replace deluge with it
[02:21] <DanThirst> any suggestions?
[02:21] <annienygma> Hello, all!
[02:22] <deme> DanThrist: One more question: Where do I place a splash screen?
[02:22] <pawan_> hi
[02:22] <bazhang> also no ports to open with transmission wers
[02:22] <nemilar> wers: transmission is going to be the default BT client in the next release of ubuntu
[02:22] <usr13_> tcpdumpgod: But dropped packets are dropped packets and I just don't think you'll be able to tell anything about them accept for how many get dropped.
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[02:22] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:22] <jackfusion> Hi all
[02:22] <jackfusion> how is every one tonight?
[02:22] <annienygma> jackfusion:  Hi
[02:23] <DanThirst> deme:  if you want just go to admin and the sessions, and you can install spalsh screens that way
[02:23] <thesis> hi can anyone help me with my panel icons?
[02:23] <annienygma> jackfusion: fine here.  u?
[02:23] <DanThirst> i find that other method just way to much work
[02:23] <thesis> i deleted my madwifi icon
[02:23] <thesis> :(
[02:23] <jackfusion> what raid software dose ubuntu server use?
[02:23] <deme> Thanks
[02:23] <achilles> help please:(
[02:23] <PriceChild> thesis, nm-applet ?
[02:23] <compy> when runmning dd i get this dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[02:24] <Tygir> how can i find out what webcam is installed on my laptop?
[02:24] <PriceChild> Tygir, lsusb
[02:24] <Tygir> PriceChild: whats that?
[02:24] <bazhang> achilles what is the issue
[02:24] <PriceChild> Tygir, will tell you all usb devices
[02:24] <Jay955> it tells me i can't save file
[02:24] <thesis> PriceChild, no not the ubuntu network monitor, but the madwifi that shows the network signal strength
[02:25] <nemilar> compy: are you just trying to copy a CD?
[02:25] <Get_A_Fix> Tygir:in a terminal window type lsusb
[02:25] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys, when my computer idles overnight I come back to it and see that the process "X" is around 99%! I have no idea why this is happening. It never happened before
[02:25] <compy> nemilar, dvd
[02:25] <achilles> bazhang i need to download the gstream extra plugins deb manualy from a windows box since i dont have internet connection
[02:25] <Tygir> i did...nothing comes up....
[02:25] <nemilar> compy: use readcd
[02:25] <Tygir> its already pre-installed on my laptop...
[02:25] <achilles> i want a link to download the deb:)
[02:25] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: then gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[02:25] <Tygir> not plugged in...if that matters?
[02:25] <edj> How to tell the version of kubuntu installed?
[02:25] <Jay955> 1 sec
[02:25] <nemilar> compy: readcd dev=/dev/[device] f=output.iso
[02:25] <compy> nemilar, k thanks
[02:25] <nemilar> yep
[02:25] <nemilar> compy: won't necessarily work if the DVD is copy-protected
[02:26] <Get_A_Fix> Tygir:then I would look at the laptop manufacturer's web site
[02:26] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: you need the higher privilages of gksu
[02:26] <PriceChild> thesis, type in "madwifi" then press the tab key to see what commands there are
[02:26] <Tygir> yeah...
[02:26] <compy> nemilar, it fails on k9copy... but every other dvd has worked with k9copy
[02:26] <thesis> PriceChild: command not foun
[02:26] <compy> coudl it be a wierd copy protection or are there other libs i should get
[02:26] <nemilar> compy: are these movies?
[02:26] <compy> i have libdvdcss2
[02:26] <compy> ye
[02:26] <nemilar> compy: might be copy protection, yeah
[02:26] <compy> ok
[02:26] <annienygma> overcluckerLIMBO :  N00b question:  what does gksu stand for?
[02:27] <nemilar> there's lots of different copy protections, they changed after css was cracked
[02:27] <compy> its wierd how i own my own movies but cant access them
[02:27] <annienygma> I know su is switch user
[02:27] <compy> nemilar, is there a list you know of that i should download
[02:27] <overcluckerLIMBO> !gksu
[02:27] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[02:27] <nemilar> compy: you can find workaround on the web...a lot of them are basically "have mplayer play it, but dump the video into a file" kind of things
[02:27] <WhoNeedszzz> Slart, you still here?
[02:27] <jackfusion> dose any one know any thing about ubuntu server?
[02:27] <annienygma> thx, ubotu!
[02:27] <nemilar> !ask > jack-desktop
[02:27] <compy> thanks
[02:27] <nemilar> np
[02:28] <edj> I need to install the libc development package on kubuntu amd64.  Is libc-dev-i386 the correct one?
[02:28] <Tygir> Get_A_Fix: in the device manager it says OmniVision Tech...that it?
[02:28] <ace4016> hi all, i'm having a bit of a problem: when i try typing in "su root" it brings up the password, as expected, then when i enter in the correct password (there is only one password it can possibly be) it tells me authentication failure; anyone know what's going on
[02:28] <ace4016> ?
[02:28] <Tygir> Get_A_Fix: how can i now if it's compatible? I'm looking at the list now...i dont see OmniVision anywhere
[02:28] <Tygir> Get_A_Fix:  but the webcam works in kopete....so wouldnt that mean it works?
[02:28] <achilles> bazhang any luck?:)
[02:29] <GoldeNArX> hey guys.  I'm doing a fresh install of 7.10 and my monitor goes out of range... its doing this on 3 different monitors and in normal install and safe graphics install > can anyone help me out?
[02:29] <Get_A_Fix> Tygir: yea  it should
[02:29] <Tygir> Get_A_Fix: well it doesnt work in camorama...
[02:29] <overcluckerLIMBO> ace4016: the root password is randomly generated
[02:30] <Jay955> ok when i use gksu gedit /ect/fstab i see nothing in that file
[02:30] <WhoNeedszzz> ace4016, and not to mention you don't su root you just su
[02:30] <overcluckerLIMBO> ace4016: it is not the same as your sudo pass
[02:30] <ace4016> ah...
[02:30] <WhoNeedszzz> ace4016, actually there is no reason to su anyway
[02:30] <WhoNeedszzz> ace4016, just sudo
[02:31] <xenthro> Q: I need help finding out what driver my wifi dongle is using
[02:31] <Tygir> get_a_fix: is there another prog i can try? or faq? forum?
[02:31] <solex1001> [Q] Hello all, how can I set up samba so any one on the network can connect and edit etc with out a password?
[02:31] <overcluckerLIMBO> ace4016: but if you are absolutely set on su root ing, then you could sudo passwd root
[02:31] <_Apple_> */throws wifi dongle
[02:32] <WhoNeedszzz> _Apple_, just use /me for that...
[02:32]  * WhoNeedszzz chuckles
[02:32] <ace4016> overcluckerLIMBO, i meant to do sudo...bit of confusion on my part, thanks :)
[02:32]  * _Apple_ throws cat off keyboard
[02:32] <_Apple_> lol
[02:32] <WhoNeedszzz> haha
[02:32] <jackfusion> lol
[02:32] <WhoNeedszzz> ceiling cat is watching you!
[02:33] <compy> should mount /mnt/cdrom work in ubuntu?
[02:33] <iKap> is there a task manager in ubuntu like windows?
[02:33] <bardyr> iKap, gnome-system-monitor
[02:33] <gmcastil> iKap: man ps
[02:33] <WhoNeedszzz> does anyone know about huge processor usage of the process "X"?
[02:33] <gmcastil> iKap: much more useful than task manager in windows
[02:33] <iKap> bardyr, how do i bring it up
[02:34] <overcluckerLIMBO> iKap: there is always top
[02:34] <WhoNeedszzz> overcluckerLIMBO, top sucks...
[02:34] <gmcastil> overcluckerLIMBO: top isn't really useful for much of anything
[02:34] <bardyr> iKap, i dont think there are any shortcuts, System --> Administration --> System Monitor
[02:34] <overcluckerLIMBO> lol
[02:34] <gmcastil> iKap: you could try running gnome-system-monitor from the command line
[02:34] <iKap> i got it thanks guys
[02:34] <WhoNeedszzz> another reason why xfce owns
 ok when i use gksu gedit /ect/fstab i see nothing in that file
[02:35] <iKap> xubuntu is too simple for me
[02:35] <iKap> i got decent specs on my laptop so went wit ubuntu
[02:35] <gmcastil> iKap: i would recommend learning the 'ps' command - its very helpful
[02:35] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: look closely at your spelling
[02:35] <tcpdumpgod> I think all we have is spoofing protection, let me check usr13
[02:35] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, simple...it is awesome
[02:35] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, KDE and Gnome are so bloated...
[02:36] <iKap> gmcastil, im trying to but couldnt find a good cheat/guide
[02:36] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, and you do realize xubuntu IS ubuntu...just with xfce
[02:36] <gmcastil> iKap: have you learned about man pages yet?
[02:36] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: the location is /etc instead
[02:36] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, yes i do, i had xubuntu for a good month then upgraded to ubuntu
[02:36] <Jay955> ok got it lol sorry
[02:36] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, !!! you don't upgrade to ubuntu...
[02:36] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, it was a bit too simple for me, which was in a way nice because it ran alot quicker/smoother
[02:37] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, simple is good
[02:37] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, but i needed the eye candy just a bit lol
[02:37] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, simple means less problems
[02:37] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, that's what compiz is for
[02:37] <andbrug> hello, im having a problem with ubuntu gusty on my hp dv6255us. ubunut not detect the pen-drive. someone can help me?
[02:37] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, and plus i had decent specs and ram sitting there waiting to be used.. so i said why not?
[02:37] <gmcastil> iKap: man pages are a local documentation thats installed on everysystem
[02:38] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, true but KDE and Gnome overuse ram and processor usage
[02:38] <hdevalence> WhoNeedszzz: I reject your statement
[02:38] <achilles> kde4 will use less ram
[02:38] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, dont worry lol im putting xubuntu on a slower desktop comp that i am getting.. ubuntu is for the laptop :)
[02:38] <gmcastil> WhoNeedszzz: i suppose it depends on your machine....i have a 2.4ghz core2 with 4gb of memory
[02:39] <hdevalence> achilles: kde4 *does* use less memory
 i typed it in a saved it now what?
[02:39] <iKap> my laptop is 1.7ghz 1gb ram.. ubuntu works perfect.
[02:39] <gmcastil> iKap: that would run kde just fine
[02:39] <achilles> kdevalence i tried to say when he installs it
[02:39] <LjL> !kde4
[02:39] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:39] <iKap> gmcastil, yes, but i prefer gnome.. just my taste.
[02:39] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, it works fine but it could work better, like i said, it is bloated
[02:40]  * gmcastil really needs to find his .emacs file...
[02:40] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, one day you will see what i mean
[02:40] <lex0> how do i install a binary file?
[02:40] <gmcastil> lex0: more explanatoin please
[02:40] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: ok, now a reboot should put things where they need to be
[02:40] <hdevalence> achilles: ah i see
[02:40] <achilles> :)
[02:40] <Jay955> ok brb
[02:40] <lex0> i have a file that ends in pkg1.run
[02:40] <iKap> they are both equally stable, but i WILL admit one thing.. i love gnome but.. it has given me a few issues since i installed.
[02:40] <gmcastil> lex0: where did you get it?
[02:40] <lex0> nvidia
[02:41] <iKap> but nothing big enough to make me go back to xfce. lol
[02:41] <lex0> the glx doesnt work
[02:41] <gmcastil> lex0: are you building the nvidia drivers yourself?
[02:41] <lex0> for my 8800
[02:41] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, just you wait
[02:41] <gmcastil> lex0: you should be able to use the nvidia package from ubuntu
[02:41] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, i promise more problems will arise
[02:41] <lex0> when i use that my games crash on wine
[02:41] <lex0> my fps are terrible
[02:41] <LjL> lex0: what makes you think that installing it from nvidia site would fix the problem (rather than just, as seems unavoidable, mess up your system by overwriting files)?
[02:41] <WhoNeedszzz> lex0, aye use the nvidia run package
[02:42] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, yeah i have a feeling.. then i will go to xfce if thats the case lol. but no really i did have a few issues with gnome.. or "ubuntu" that i didnt have when running xubuntu/xfce
[02:42] <WhoNeedszzz> lex0, mine works fine
[02:42] <iKap> kinda weird.. but nothing big.
[02:42] <LjL> lex0: what makes you think that WINE can run most or many games smoothly?
[02:42] <gmcastil> lex0: if you're sure that you want to run it, open up a terminal window, cd into that directory, and then type "./filename"
[02:42] <iKap> lex0, wine isnt perfect my friend.
[02:42] <lex0> yes but ive seen it much better on other peoples computer
[02:42] <WhoNeedszzz> iKap, ubuntu is the os. both use ubuntu; they just use diff window managers
[02:42] <iKap> WhoNeedszzz, yeah i know lol i was just trying to  be more clear.
[02:42] <LjL> lex0: what makes you think breaking your system will improve the situation?
[02:43] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, how can I set up samba so any one on the network can connect and edit etc with out a password?
[02:43] <WhoNeedszzz> LjL, LOL!
[02:43] <gmcastil> lex0: if you have to ask how to run a binary, you probably aren't prepared to deal with building your own nvidia drivers
[02:43] <lex0> so how can i deal with crashes?
[02:43] <iKap> LjL, ahahaha
[02:43] <gmcastil> lex0: depends on why its crashing
[02:43] <overcluckerLIMBO> !swat
[02:43] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:44] <lex0> for example when i open wow and change the resolution to my 22 inch it crashes
[02:44]  * gmcastil gives the ubuntu-bot a smack on the ass!
[02:44] <LjL> lex0, you might perhaps try using nvidia-glx-new rather than nvidia-glx.
[02:44] <WhoNeedszzz> lex0, here is an idea: stop using wine for games! Just boot to windows!
[02:44] <LjL> !nvidia > lex0    (lex0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:44] <WhoNeedszzz> lex0, they are not worth the trouble
[02:44] <el_taco> I'm looking at buying a new board and was thinking about an amd chipset. anyone know if there'd be any compatibility issues with gutsy?
[02:44] <WhoNeedszzz> lex0, CONSTANT problems with wine and games
[02:44] <annienygma> solexious : Check out this page:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:44] <solexious> ty
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[02:44] <WhoNeedszzz> el_taco, not really
[02:44] <FloodBot3> J1n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <gmcastil> lex0: i would really not try to do what you're thinking - you'll wind up breaking your install
[02:44] <iKap> anyone know of a nice.. maybe bluish looking gnome theme that is almost exact as the DEFAULT ubuntu 7.10 theme? i want something thats the same or close to the same but diff colors..
[02:44] <annienygma> solexious :  it tells how to do it
[02:44] <gmcastil> ffs
[02:44] <WhoNeedszzz> el_taco, that is what i'm using
[02:44] <sapperjanko1> !flood |J1n
[02:45] <sapperjanko1> !flood | J1n
[02:45] <ubotu> J1n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <gmcastil> !flood | J1n
[02:45] <el_taco> WhoNeedszzz what chipset do you have?
[02:45] <iKap> !flood | j1n
[02:45] <ubotu> j1n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <lex0> ok
[02:45] <gmcastil> iKap: uh...he's gone
[02:45] <iKap> lol oops
[02:45] <iKap> hahahaha
[02:45] <PanzerMKZ> sapperjanko1 and iKap yall is late
[02:45] <LjL> he spammed five lines
[02:45] <LjL> y'all spammed 8
[02:45] <sapperjanko1> im having problems with user write access, and it turns out that is also y users cant write with samba
[02:46] <iKap> anyone know of a nice.. maybe bluish looking gnome theme that is almost exact as the DEFAULT ubuntu 7.10 theme? i want something thats the same or close to the same but diff colors..
[02:46] <gmcastil> hey, i'm going through /etc/apt/sources.lst and it looks like ubuntu enables restricted, multiverse, and universe repositories by default - is this correct?
[02:46] <_Afk> noob question: how do i create a new blank text file
[02:46] <mercury_1900> i was looking for a theme like that, too
[02:46] <crdlb> iKap: clearlooks?
[02:46] <DoubleDew> what process begins the ubuntu desktop environment?  better yet, what config file shows what process to start during boot and is it possible to eliminate all non-essential ones and call them on my own if i need them?
[02:46] <mercury_1900> based on that
[02:46] <mercury_1900> a background, actually
[02:46] <gmcastil> DoubleDew: its considerably more complicated than that
[02:47] <overcluckerLIMBO> DoubleDew: init 4
[02:47] <annienygma> gmcastil : I thought you had to manually enable them... Leastways I had to
 it locked up on reboot
[02:47] <WhoNeedszzz> el_taco, AM2 X2 4200+
[02:47] <achilles> my friend from france uses ubuntu at school:)
[02:47] <tritium> overcluckerLIMBO: no, ubuntu and debian only use 2 runlevels
[02:47] <gmcastil> annienygma: i don't see any of the those lines commented out
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Linux likes to make use of lots and lots of scripts that call other scripts that start other things.. and so on. :)
[02:47] <gmcastil> DoubleDew: windows != linux
[02:47] <DoubleDew> gmcastil: im aware, i should rephrase, basically i want to boot to prompt,
[02:47] <overcluckerLIMBO> tritium: good point, i'm always forgetting
[02:48] <DoubleDew> gmcastil: and start the desktop environment if necessary
[02:48] <cwillu_> !eeepc
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eeepc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <gmcastil> DoubleDew: ah...typically, you tell it to switch to a different run level, but i've not figured out how ubuntu is configured...i only installed it this afternoon
[02:48] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: what did it say when it locked up?
[02:48] <annienygma> _Afk right-click on an empty space, select Create Document, and name it newfile.txt (or whatever)
[02:48] <achilles> !mp3
[02:48] <linuxishaw1> Does anyone know if the tutorials for making Ubuntu join a 2003 Domain are still good, they're all referencing 5.04?
[02:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <Jay955> i just got pass the logon screen and then nothing
[02:49] <WhoNeedszzz> _Afk isn't here anymore...
[02:49] <gmcastil> DoubleDew: yeah...its different with ubuntu - i'm a redhat guy, so i'm still figuring out how ubuntu does things
[02:49] <Scunizi> When I try to load Inkscape it takes 45 seconds and processor usage goes to 55%  How do I discover what's happening so I can try to fix it?
[02:49] <sapperjanko1> how do i set a user to be able 2 write to /var/www
[02:50] <mouseboyx> Im looking for a good laptop that will run ubuntu nicely under $500 Can anyone recommend ?
[02:50] <gmcastil> sapperjanko1: chmod and chown change ownerships and permissions
[02:50] <annienygma> scan *gk*
[02:50] <DoubleDew> does ubuntu have technical info on there documentation...for such things as what I am asking
[02:50] <Administrator> Hi
[02:50] <el_taco> WhoNeedszzz I mean AMD/ATI southbridge.
[02:50] <sapperjanko1> gmcastil: also how can i view what permissions a user has
[02:51] <mouseboyx> ls -l sapperjanko1
[02:51] <hdevalence> mouseboyx: have you seen the eeepc
[02:51] <gmcastil> sapperjanko1: permissions and ownerships aren't the same in linux as they are in windows
[02:51] <WhoNeedszzz> el_taco, oh i have Nvidia north bridge
[02:51] <mouseboyx> It, needs to have a cdrom drive at least.
[02:51] <annienygma> gmcastil hold on checking
[02:51] <el_taco> northbridge.. whatever...
[02:51] <Scunizi> mouseboyx, Dell Vostro 1400 intel core 2 duo might just do the trick for $499
[02:51] <gmcastil> sapperjanko1: you can use 'ls -l' to see the permissions/ownerships of files
[02:51] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: so, it goes blank after the logon screen?
[02:52] <WhoNeedszzz> el_taco, ? there is a diff
[02:52] <gmcastil> sapperjanko1: but, in general, linux file permissions and ownerships aren't as finely tunable as they are in windows
[02:52] <Scunizi> mouseboyx, http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/vostronb?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
[02:52] <Jay955> yes i just have the mouse and a blank background
[02:52] <toresn> say i have a text file with the path to several videoes (one on each line)... how do i execute them with i.e. mplayer ?
[02:52] <gmcastil> sapperjanko1: (not that its all that big of a deal)
[02:52] <gmcastil> wow...this is a real newbie channel
[02:53] <RyanPrior> Is there any FOSS program that has syntax and capabilities similar to Maple?
[02:53] <Scunizi> gmcastil, depends on the night and time
[02:53] <sapperjanko1> gmcastil: well what the problem is that i cant write files with samba server up n runnin, just read only, i was in the samba channel n then they ended up sayin its my user permissions, its got nuffin 2 do with samba\
[02:53] <annienygma> gmcastil : yeah... is this your first time here too?
[02:53] <gmcastil> Scunizi: i don't mind contributing
[02:53] <RyanPrior> gmcastil: Lots of newbies come here, but there are lots of more experienced users here too. :-)
[02:53] <mouseboyx> Thanks!
[02:53] <danbhfive> toresn: thats an odd question, why dont you just browse to them?
[02:53] <gmcastil> annienygma: yeah, i installed ubuntu this evening...i'm leaving redhat for good
[02:53] <Scunizi> gmcastil, me either.. can be fun at times.. most times.. except when I don't know the answer :)
[02:54] <toresn> danbhfive: well, maybe i want to use the text file as a playlist
[02:54] <mouseboyx> Does this look legit? http://www.expressitoptions.com/t7100-p-162178.html
[02:54] <annienygma> gmcastil I left Suse for Ubuntu a while back... and I am totally new to IRC
[02:54] <gmcastil> Scunizi: so far, i'm liking what i see...i doubt that i'll ever go back to redhat or any of its progeny
[02:54] <danbhfive> toresn: still, players can do playlists
[02:54] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: is /etc/fstab the only file you changed, since your last reboot
[02:54] <deme> how do I fix the gnome-settings-daemon bug?
[02:54] <overcluckerLIMBO> ?
[02:54] <Jay955> yes it is
[02:54] <toresn> danbhfive: not mplayer on the command line... even so, that's the point :-)
[02:55] <toresn> +not
[02:55] <gmcastil> annienygma: i think these lines are uncommented now because i installed the restricted nvidia drivers
[02:55] <Jay955> i just rebooted to see what will happen
[02:55] <rycole> hey guys, what params to "ls" allow me to see file permissions?
[02:55] <Jay955> brb
[02:55] <Alumin> I'm looking for a generic way to install something that is packaged for Ubuntu, but that I have a patch that I'd like to apply beforehand.
[02:55] <Alumin> rycole: -l
[02:55] <Scunizi> gmcastil, for the most part Ubuntu has been pretty easy for me.. nothing linux based prior to this for me. Started with breezy 4 editions ago
[02:55]  * gmcastil is going crazy without the old .emacs file!
[02:55] <Jay955> same thing no change
[02:55] <annienygma> They may be.. I'm not up on nVidia, I'm afraid
[02:55] <Alumin> command-line mplayer does a playlist in the sense that you can specify multiple files on the command line
[02:56] <overcluckerLIMBO> !paste > Jay955
[02:56] <annienygma> Is anyone else here using BitchX?
[02:56] <toresn> Alumin: yes, i know... but still...
[02:56] <el_taco> annienygma yes
[02:56] <Alumin> so, what I've got so far is 1) apt-get source <package>, 2) apt-get build-dep <package>, 3) apply patch, 4) something with dpkg-buildpackage...
[02:56] <gmcastil> Scunizi: i really haven't gotten use to the extensive use of UUID
[02:56] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: are you able to alt-F2 ?
[02:56] <Alumin> annienygma: not for a while, but I have used it extensively in the past
[02:57] <annienygma> el_taco:  Did you find it hard to learn?
[02:57] <Alumin> compared to what?
[02:57] <RyanPrior> Is there any FOSS program that has syntax and capabilities similar to Maple?
[02:57] <danbhfive> toresn: i well, I would just use a scripting language to do what you want.  like bash or perl
[02:57] <el_taco> annienygma i've been using it off and on for 15years
[02:57] <annienygma> Alumin: I heard it was one of the better IRC clients out there, so I d/l'ed a tutorial and gave it a try
[02:57] <sapperjanko1> gmcastil: so what would be the full command 2 make it 2 that folder... this is what i get with ls -l drwxr-xr-x 122 root bin 12288 2007-12-21 09:53 webmin-1.390
[02:57] <Jay955> box comes up but it will not let me type in it
[02:58] <annienygma> tonight, that is (grin)
[02:58] <Alumin> that depends on your definition of better
[02:58] <blbrown> I have a user I setup with so much mail that it crashes when I login.  This is on a server.  How can I manually delete the mail box
[02:58] <gmcastil> RyanPrior: not really....but, you might try learning more about Python
[02:58] <gmcastil> !python
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <RyanPrior> gmcastil: I know some about Python. It's different though. :-)
[02:58] <Scunizi> gmcastil, yea.. that's a new one. blkid works good for identification.  Some things still work better with a label
[02:58] <annienygma> It has a learning curve, for sure
[02:58] <Alumin> annienygma: BX is basically EPIC with a bunch of functionality that EPIC would need scripts for, hardcoded into the client
[02:59] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: i forget which one is open, but try alt+ F3 thru F7
[02:59] <gmcastil> RyanPrior: there are extensive libraries for python that give much the same (if not better) power than maple or matlab
[02:59] <Alumin> now, if you're going to use all those features, then that's a bonus because binary code is faster than scripts
[02:59] <SpookyET> How do you remove a user from a group using the command line?
[02:59] <el_taco> Alumin no it's ircii.
[02:59] <Alumin> SpookyET: check out usermod
[02:59] <sapperjanko1> !chmod
[02:59] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[02:59] <Scunizi> Anyone know if a lot of fonts will slow some applications, like Inkscape, to a crawl when loading ?
[02:59] <gmcastil> Scunizi: i understand the mentality behind it, i guess - i just don't necessarily agree with it
[02:59] <Jay955> ok
[02:59] <RyanPrior> gmcastil: Can you suggest a good math library?
[02:59] <SpookyET> Alumin: I did not see remove in it, only add
[02:59] <gmcastil> RyanPrior: numpy is the standard
[02:59] <Alumin> annienygma: if you're just getting started with a CLI client, I would check out irssi
[02:59] <danbhfive> !equivalents | RyanPrior
[02:59] <ubotu> RyanPrior: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[02:59] <Scunizi> gmcastil, I think it helped with a mix of ide and sata drives.. I"ve always had issues there.
[03:00] <Alumin> SpookyET: you specify the new list of groups in its entirety, so you leave out the unwanted group
[03:00] <gmcastil> RyanPrior: python + numphy + matplotlib >> Maple or Matlab
[03:00] <SpookyET> Alumin: cool, thanks
[03:00] <annienygma> Alumin: I have heard of it... is it any good?
[03:00] <DurtDiggler> is there a reason why the ubuntu firefox's font is almost twice as big as every other browser's
[03:00] <Jay955> nothing happining
[03:00] <gmcastil> Scunizi: yeah...i don't see anything inherently bad about it (as long as there is a way to read UUID info from the drive)
[03:01] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: ok, now login, and sudo nano /etc/fstab, and remove the line you added.
[03:01] <Omlette> Because someone messed up, DurtDiggler.
[03:01] <el_taco> DurtDiggler have you installed the windows fonts?
[03:01] <DurtDiggler> well Im jsut lookin at the live cd
[03:01] <gmcastil> Scunizi: what worries me is if I need to modify the boot params or want to point to a different / fs
[03:01] <DurtDiggler> just thought Ide check it out
[03:01] <Jay955> 1 sec
[03:01] <DurtDiggler> and I design websites
[03:01] <DurtDiggler> and was quite disappointed
[03:01] <gmcastil> el_taco: windows fonts?
[03:02] <Alumin> annienygma: I like it :p
[03:02] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i know you didn't do it on purpose but "jackfusion" was the one asking to ask.
[03:02] <DurtDiggler> my sites use arial too
[03:02] <Alumin> BX is friendlier out of the box because it's got a good color setup
[03:02] <nicko> dam to many tools
[03:02] <annienygma> Alumin:  I'll have to give it a whirl then :D
[03:02] <nicko> nice baby
[03:02] <Scunizi> gmcastil, a different / fs should have it's own uuid anyway.. so maybe not such a big thing afterall.
[03:02] <Alumin> also it uses the ircII/EPIC scripting language, so there's a large pool of prior work done there
[03:02] <nicko> cool
[03:02] <gmcastil> Scunizi: right...but, how do i know what it is?
[03:03] <Alumin> on the other hand, irssi uses perl to script, so there's some libraries available for that I hear :P
[03:03] <Scunizi> annienygma, irssi and screen once you get use to it can really rock..
[03:03] <annienygma> gmcastil:  You can install Windows fonts on ubuntu... do a google on medibuntu and you will find tutorials on it
[03:03] <nemilar> jack-desktop: oh true...my bad.  darn nick-completion
[03:03] <el_taco> gmcastil the ones installed with medibuntu
[03:03] <annienygma> gmcastil: also tutorials on playing DVDs and mp3s and stuff...
[03:03] <smallfoot-> does anyone use ubuntu on a 386?
[03:03] <Scunizi> gmcastil, blkid from the terminal will discover mounted partitions.
[03:03] <gmcastil> el_taco: is that just another package?
[03:03] <Alumin> irssi has much better support for multiple concurrent network connections, if you're into that
[03:03] <wers> can I have tabs in abiword?
[03:03] <Scunizi> smallfoot-, if they do it's probably with xubuntu
[03:04] <el_taco> gmcastil www.medibuntu.org
[03:04] <nicko> go to youtube.com to watch tutorials
[03:04] <wers> i don't want my docs in separate windows
[03:04] <Alumin> that's the main reason I switched from BX to irssi
[03:04] <annienygma> Scunizi: Can u install using synaptic?
[03:04] <Scunizi> annienygma, sure.. sudo apt-get install irssi or synaptic.. both work fine
[03:04] <Alumin> of course, I've since left the CLI IRC world completely...I'm a loyal KVirc user now :)
[03:04] <gmcastil> el_taco: reading...so..medibuntu is just a repository that isn't included by default in sources.lst?
[03:05] <el_taco> gmcastil correct
[03:05] <mouseboyx> Why doesn't dell sell the cheap laptops with ubuntu, so that i don't have to pay for windows vista?
[03:05] <annienygma> thx, el_taco my brain went south and couldn't think of the site
[03:05] <solexious> [Q] Hello all, how can I set up samba so any one on the network can connect and edit etc with out a password or settng up users?
[03:05] <el_taco> mouseboyx how cheap are you talking? cause $600 is pretty cheap
[03:05] <gvsa123> any ideas why the ubuntu side on a p2p connection via crossover cables to an xp machine is slow on the initial access of shared folders on xp? after that, everything is pretty much the okay already.
[03:05] <gmcastil> el_taco: ah...was wondering how they did this stuff....i figured stuff like codecs and crap was in the multiverse repo
[03:05] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: are you having any luck?
[03:05] <gmcastil> solexious: why would you do that?
[03:06] <annienygma> mouseboyx: those lappies Dell is selling are pretty cheap!  Cost less than the same machine with Windoze
[03:06] <mouseboyx> Where?
[03:06] <Gman99999> Hey is there anyone that can help me resolve a WUSB54G V.4 Issue?  I need to black list some modules from loading at start up or find a proper driver that works
[03:06] <smallfoot-> Scunizi, then why is ubuntu released as compiled i386 instead of i486 or i586 or even i686?
[03:06] <mouseboyx> The $399 one comes with windows vista annienygma
[03:06] <Lokii-> !pastebin
[03:06] <Lokii-> !paste
[03:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <Scunizi> annienygma, mouseboyx I got a 1400 for my wife for xmas. Works good.
[03:06] <annienygma> solexious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605  That should help
[03:07] <solexious> gmcastil: as i want it to be acsessable to any one
[03:07] <gmcastil> solexious: define 'accessible'
[03:07] <solexious> annie: that doesnt cover this setup
[03:07] <annienygma> Scunizi :  I want one!  I had already bought this one when I heard Dell was selling them... but my next lappie will be an Ubuntu Dell!
[03:07] <Scunizi> smallfoot-, the numbering does not really represent a 386 processor. The kernel recognized the chip and uses the appropriate "stuff" for the lack of a better word.
[03:07] <gmcastil> annienygma: get a thinkpad....much better than the dell's
[03:07] <el_taco> solexious allow guest?
[03:07] <annienygma> solexious :  sorry
[03:07] <solexious> gm: read and write
[03:08] <gmcastil> solexious: good lord don't do that...use ssh
[03:08] <solexious> anne: ty tho :)
[03:08] <mouseboyx> http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/vostronb?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd only comes with windows
[03:08] <Alumin> gmcastil: amen
[03:08] <annienygma> gmcastil :  they run Redhat - I much prefer ubuntu
[03:08] <mouseboyx> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bqcwi1s&s=bsd < this one should come with ubuntu...
 i will have to re-install it it will not let me do anything
[03:08] <annienygma> gmcastil: redhat and I have never gotten along for some reason (shrugs)
[03:08] <gmcastil> annienygma: my thinkpad came with vista....was gone in 30 sec
[03:08] <solexious> gm: im not allowing acsess to any more than one emty folder
[03:08] <Alumin> Thinkpads rule
[03:08] <Scunizi> annienygma, mouseboyx check out http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/Dell-Vostro-1400-Ubuntu-Gutsy.html
[03:09] <gmcastil> solexious: /etc <--- not an empty folder
[03:09] <Alumin> yeah, mine came with 2000 but... :)
[03:09] <gmcastil> solexious: folder == directory
[03:09] <overcluckerLIMBO> Jay955: from grub, there is a recovery console, or should be
[03:09] <solexious> gm: i never said /ect ...
[03:09] <annienygma> gmcastil:  how did it work with the modem?  Did it recognise it?
[03:09] <gmcastil> annienygma: recognizes everything perfectly....modem support is a non issue - the 8250 and 16550 UART haven't changed in years
[03:10] <mouseboyx> Works OUt of the box? Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Wi-Fi Mini Card
[03:10] <Alumin> annienygma: what you can do, if you want to be sure, is boot it up in RH and make a note of all the drivers used for the hardware
[03:10] <gmcastil> solexious: the solution is still SSH
[03:10] <Alumin> then just install those drivers when you install whatever other distro you install
[03:10] <Jay955> ok i will work on it and let you know what happens
[03:10] <Jay955> thanks for all your help :)
[03:10] <cry01>  any expert here that would be willing to help me out with some problems I am having in getting my nova-s working? :/ im about to give up, i tried just about everything
[03:10] <anathematic> how do i set permissions for all the sub directories in a main directly? (without applying same permissions to files int here as well)
[03:10] <solexious> gm: i dont see why, i want to use the inbult windows network to share space on my ubuntu box
[03:10] <Alumin> I just like the Thinkpads because they're super sturdy...plus they have the ThinkLight which is surprisingly useful
[03:10] <solexious> ssh is not the answer
[03:11] <annienygma> gmcastil: good
[03:11] <Alumin> and the mount thing on top to connect external stuff like webcams
[03:11] <norv> solexious: samba is the answer iff you must share with windows
[03:11] <gmcastil> solexious: i misunderstood...thought you were trying to share /etc
[03:11] <annienygma> Good point, Alumin ...
[03:11] <annienygma> Alumin:  what is a thinklight?
[03:12] <norv> otherwise, ssh is always the best choice because it's 2 for 1.. you get file sharing and a way to login
[03:12] <el_taco> anathematic find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[03:12] <Alumin> they have this little LED light on the inside lip of the top of the screen
[03:12] <solexious> gm: lol, no, just an empty folder that can be used to store stuff, hence samba for windows users
[03:12] <Alumin> you hit a key and it turns on and shines down on the keyboard
[03:12] <anathematic> thanks el_taco :)
[03:12] <Mr-LonelY> hi...every time i want install tomcat5.5-webapps in gutsy..i got same error
[03:12] <gmcastil> solexious: ah....there are about a million samba walkthroughs out there, i'd try asking google
[03:12] <gmcastil> Mr-LonelY: pastebin...please
[03:12] <annienygma> Alumin : sounds nice.  What are they going for these days?  Last I checked they were around a grand
[03:13] <Alumin> that, I have NFI
[03:13] <gmcastil> annienygma: mine was 1400...with 4 GB of ram
[03:13] <humblerodent> Is anybody here very good at knowing about DNS record types?
[03:13] <Alumin> I still have my old T23 from back in the day
[03:13] <solexious> gm: ive read about 1/2 of them ;) found one before but cant find it now :(
[03:13] <solexious> *that shows how to do this*
[03:13] <xpl> hello
[03:14] <xpl> I have i little problem that is as the time passes becoming a big one
[03:14] <annienygma> gmcastil : 4GB -- sweet!  Was that stock or did you upgrade?
[03:14] <Alumin> xpl: better get to the gynecologist soon, then :P
[03:14] <gmcastil> annienygma: don't buy it stock...buy a 1gb stock, then buy 4gb from newegg
[03:14] <xpl> no really its kinda wierd
[03:14] <Mr-LonelY> my connection here is s**t
[03:14] <mouseboyx> Dell Wireless 1390 << ndiswrapper?
[03:15] <xpl> i have a laptop, hp compaq nx6110
[03:15] <gmcastil> mouseboyx: lspci?
[03:15] <xpl> and i want to install linux on it
[03:15] <Alumin> man, if I had 4GB of RAM
[03:15] <gmcastil> omg
[03:15] <Alumin> nice
[03:15] <gmcastil> where do these people come from
[03:15] <gmcastil> Alumin: yeah...its fast
[03:16] <Alumin> Romania mostly
[03:16] <gmcastil> Alumin: i can build a kernel in about 3 min...including modules
[03:16] <annienygma> I've got 2GB on my desktop, but only 750MB on this lappie
[03:16] <cry01> any expert here that would be willing to help me out with some problems I am having in getting my nova-s working? :/
[03:16] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[03:16] <Alumin> no offense to any non-script-kiddie Romanians in channel
[03:16] <cry01> any expert here that would be willing to help me out with some problems I am having in getting my nova-s working? :/
[03:16] <Mr-LonelY> gmcastil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54276/
[03:16] <gmcastil> Alumin: yeah...this is gay as shit...
[03:16] <mouseboyx> i
[03:16] <Alumin> anyway, where was I
[03:16] <Alumin> if I had 4GB of RAM
[03:16] <gmcastil> wow...someone actually used the pastebin...thanks
[03:16] <Alumin> I'd be like
[03:17] <gmcastil> Alumin: its pretty rad
[03:17] <Mr-LonelY> gmcastil: all ready use dpkg --configure -a
[03:17] <Alumin> what up Unreal Tournament 2004 memory-resident!
[03:17] <mercury_1900> is there a channel for networking problems?
[03:17] <gmcastil> Alumin: i gave up playing video games
[03:17] <annienygma> I've got 2Gb on my desktop, but only 750M on this lappie
[03:17] <gmcastil> mercury_1900: depends on the problem
[03:17] <Alumin> mercury_1900: I think there's #networking actually
[03:17] <norv> I've a system with only 2GB HD
[03:17] <Alumin> or is that on OFTC
[03:17] <coldboot|home> Why does ubuntu not ask you any questions when installing programs like Debian used to?
[03:17] <norv> To think it's actually modern
[03:17] <annienygma> debating on a new video card for the desktop or more RAM for the lappie -- can't afford both :(
[03:17] <coldboot|home> Debian would ask so many questions to configure programs you installed.
[03:17] <gmcastil> coldboot|home: probably auto-detects a lot of it
[03:18] <Alumin> coldboot|home: dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[03:18] <el_taco> norv e3pc?
[03:18] <gmcastil> annienygma: more memory
[03:18] <Alumin> set the priority lower
[03:18] <norv> el_taco: yes
[03:18] <annienygma> norv: that's one small hard drive.  What os do you run?
[03:18] <Mr-LonelY> gmcastil: last time i'm using feisty
[03:18] <el_taco> norv i'm close to getting the 4g but I want the 8g with the PCIe memory
[03:18] <Alumin> coldboot|home: if you want the questions during the OS install, you can pass a kernel environment variable
[03:18] <coldboot|home> Alumin: Ah, thanks
[03:18] <Mr-LonelY> gmcastil: last time i'm using feisty..no problem at all..
[03:19] <annienygma> gmcastil: yeah, but the onboard video on that desktop really stinks!
[03:19] <coldboot|home> Alumin: I'm just trying to get AFS setup...
[03:19] <norv> annienygma: Kubuntu (really xubuntu switched to Kubuntu)
[03:19] <Alumin> like say at the installer bootloader prompt you type "install" because that's the "kernel image name"
[03:19] <norv> el_taco: wait, is 4gb the lowest model?
[03:19] <el_taco> 2g is the lowest model
[03:19] <baal> hi im running mythbuntu when it starts up the x menu is still apearing at the top of the screen is there some way of making that disapear
[03:19] <Alumin> you can type "DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low install"
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[03:19] <iKap> wtf
[03:19] <coldboot|home> Wow that was fast.
[03:19] <iKap> get a life u f**king pathetic asses
[03:20] <PriceChild> !feedingthetroll | iKap
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feedingthetroll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <emgent> PriceChild, ++
[03:20] <PriceChild> gah
[03:20] <cellofellow> !botsnack
[03:20] <PriceChild> !feedthetroll
[03:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:20] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[03:20] <el_taco> norv i'm concerned that the screen will be too annoying to me
[03:20] <ToddEDM> hey  how do i make a shortcut on my desktop to a program that i have to start in the terminal
[03:20] <norv> el_taco: err, the screen isn't the problem
[03:20] <baal> gees what was that all about ?
[03:20] <iKap> yeah
[03:20] <iKap> anwyayyyyyyyy
[03:20] <iKap> anywayyyyy*
[03:21] <Mr-LonelY> anyone can help me..
[03:21] <norv> el_taco: graphics are actually quite commendable, Compiz works quite fast (though the memory cost...)
[03:21] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: edit the launcher and put it as a "Terminal" program.
[03:21] <cellofellow> norv: compiz on an Eee?
[03:21] <TallMike> Hey.
[03:21] <ToddEDM> cellofellow:  you might have guessed.. im a newb
[03:21] <baal> hi im running mythbuntu when it starts up the x menu is still apearing at the top of the screen is there some way of making that disapear
[03:21] <Scunizi> Can anyone recommend a decent font viewer?  One hopefully where I can just arrow down and view the font>
[03:21] <TallMike> This is my first time trying out Ubuntu, it's pretty awesome.
[03:21] <norv> el_taco: the keyboard is where the real usability hits, as if you touch type it is hard to get used to it
[03:21] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: let me check the exact proceedure.
[03:21] <RyanPrior> I asked a second ago whether there's a FOSS program similar to Maple, and I found wxMaxima, an excellent GUI to the GPL Maxima algebra system. If anybody asks in the future, please point them to it. It's awesome. :-)
[03:21] <iKap> !feed troll princechild
[03:22] <Scunizi> TallMike, I can see you getting taller from here :)
[03:22] <iKap> lmao nvm
[03:22] <PriceChild> !botabuse | iKap
[03:22] <ubotu> iKap: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[03:22] <iKap> lol
[03:22] <norv> cellofellow: yes, it has intel integrated graphics, which is the only HW video that has not at some point failed me
[03:22] <alsadk> how can i marage tow partitions with gparted
[03:22] <alsadk> ?
[03:22] <TallMike> Haha.
[03:22] <RyanPrior> alsadk: Tow partitions?
[03:22] <PriceChild> iKap, it needs no response. We need no "lol". This channel is ubuntu support only. This does not require a response either.
[03:22] <alsadk> yes
[03:23] <el_taco> norv you have the 2g?
[03:23]  * mneptok watches PriceChild's 8K pound hint sail overhead
[03:23] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: turns out to be a bit trickier than I thought. (Was easier in XFCE than GNOME, but I keep forgetting that I liked that desktop better.)
[03:23] <TallMike> I could use some support, I'm trying to install a mud client I downloaded, how can I use the Add/Remove for it? Or that only works with things already listed?
[03:23] <iKap> PriceChild, thanks for your concern.. now go watch tv or something. thank you!
[03:23] <Mr__> Anyone will to give a quick review and or objective glance at my ubuntu website to help tell me what i'm missing or different ideas?
[03:23] <norv> el_taco: right
[03:23] <ToddEDM> ohhh great
[03:23] <mneptok> too late
[03:23] <Mr__> will=willing
[03:23] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: Applications -> Acessories -> Terminal
[03:24] <cry01> i'm having trouble getting my dvb card working. anyone can help me out?
[03:24] <cellofellow> TallMike: try tf
[03:24] <norv> el_taco: I also have a 4Gb (i think bits) card
[03:24] <Mr-LonelY> seem no one can help me solve my prob
[03:24] <TallMike> tf?
[03:24] <baal> is there someway of stopping the application bar from apearing on top of mythtv
[03:24] <ToddEDM> terminal is up
[03:24] <cellofellow> TallMike: TinyFugue is a MUD client.
[03:24] <norv> el_taco: but that'll only add half a gig, right?
[03:24] <el_taco> norv 4gb SD card/
[03:24] <el_taco> ?
[03:24] <TallMike> Oh! Let me do a search for it, thanks.
[03:24] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: cd Desktop/; ls
[03:25] <norv> el_taco: yes
[03:25] <Scunizi> TallMike, not sure what mud client is but cellofellow is probably pointing you to one that is in "System/Admin/Synaptic"
[03:25] <ToddEDM> ok
[03:25] <el_taco> Scunizi multi-user-dungeon
[03:25] <sapperjanko1> im tryin to change permissions here, but comes up with  Operation not permitted... how can i make a user using the sudo command... this is what im tryin atm; sudo chmod o+wx /var/www
[03:25] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: Launcher files are *.desktop. They are similarish to *.lnk files in Windoze.
[03:25] <Scunizi> el_taco, ah.. ok
[03:26] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: Open one with gedit thefile.desktop
[03:26] <sapperjanko1> but if i try without sudo comes up not permitted
[03:26] <kelvinator> Please forgive me if this questions has been answered before ... I have been googling this for weeks without results ... I have a desktop with a Suse distribution. I would like to replace this with ubuntu, but I am attempting to keep the contents of /home while migrating to ubuntu 7.10. Is this possible?
[03:26] <norv> Scunizi: TallMike: MUD is a multi user dungeon, a type of old online game. clients give you a better interface
[03:26] <ToddEDM> how do i make a launcher file?
[03:26] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: they are just text files.
[03:26] <ToddEDM> i right clicked the desktop and making one
[03:26] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: you can drag and drop them from the menu or panel to the desktop.
[03:26] <Mr-LonelY> sapperjanko1: try add user in /etc/sudoers
[03:26] <gmcastil> ToddEDM: text editor
[03:26] <Scunizi> kelvinator, sure if your /home is in a seperate partition.. if it isn't then you need to do that first.
[03:27] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: that works too.
[03:27] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: There is a line in it that should read "Terminal=false", change it to "true".
[03:27] <foibles> i cant eject my cd tray
[03:27] <cjones> how do i make it so numlock is on by default
[03:27] <ToddEDM> ok, in command, do i just put the command i would put in the term.
[03:27] <baal> ok great just ignore me .. ill try getting some help from freenode
[03:27] <foibles> it says a program is using it
[03:27] <sapperjanko1> Mr-LonelY: and how is that done now :S:S
[03:27] <foibles> can i somehow override this?
[03:27] <PriceChild> !patience | baal
[03:27] <ubotu> baal: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:27] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: yeah, that's Exec=command
[03:28] <alsadk> i have two partitions i want to marage them by gparted so any one know how?
[03:28] <gmcastil> alsadk: try just using fdisk
[03:28] <cellofellow> alsadk: backup the latter one, delete it, extend the first, restore backup.
[03:28] <Scunizi> baal, that might be a mythtv channel support question.
[03:28] <gmcastil> alsadk: oh...you're trying to merge them?
[03:28] <alsadk> yes
[03:29] <norv> foibles: close anything that might still have it opened. otherwise use the "hard" eject button
[03:29] <TallMike> Norv: I know what they are, I'm just trying to find a good program to run them with in Ubuntu.
[03:29] <ozzloy> when i print, i get two icons for the print job.  i think this might be because i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10.  how do i fix it?
[03:29] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: working out?
[03:29] <gmcastil> alsadk: then, backup one, delete it, then resize the other one
[03:29] <foibles> norv, it says that when i use hard eject as well
[03:29] <norv> foibles: oh right, try to unmount it
[03:29] <ToddEDM> cellofellow:  its just asking me for COMMAND.. then there is a field to type in something
[03:29] <foibles> im not sure what program is blocking it
[03:29] <ozzloy> so there's only one print job icon in the notification area?
[03:29] <nemilar> Is there any GUI program for mapping mouse buttons?
[03:29] <L0L> sapperjanko1: sudo nano /etc/sudoers >> add name user below user privilege
[03:29] <norv> foibles: errm, hard eject as in the 'pinhole'?
[03:30] <Jangari> anyone know if sox can concatenate more than 32 files in one hit?
[03:30] <cjones> how do i make it so numlock is on by default
[03:30] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: ah, here's the easy way. Right click the desktop, create launcher. There is a drop-down box that says Application, in there select Terminal Application.
[03:30] <foibles> norv, "device is busy"
[03:30] <fprintf> Bummer about the flash install being broken. You guys must be getting hammered w/ questions to make it the #topic.
[03:30] <foibles> i dont want to hvae to restart x for something simple like this
[03:30] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: then there is Name, Command, and Comment boxes.
[03:30] <ToddEDM> nice...
[03:30] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: and you can click the icon to change it.
[03:30] <norv> foibles: yeah, I used to have a customized version of slay for that very reason
[03:31] <my-people> sapperjanko1: more detail use man sudoers
[03:31] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i am useing live cd right now
[03:31] <ToddEDM> when i type in googleearth, it automatically changed the icon, cool
[03:31] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: for some reason I thought you wanted to terminal-ize an already existing launcher.
[03:31] <cjones> how do i make it so numlock is on by default when i start or reboot the box ?
[03:32] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , whats the possible choices?
[03:32] <cellofellow> alsadk: for what?
[03:32] <Scunizi> cjones, numlockx in synaptic
[03:32] <ToddEDM> YES it worked, thank you very much cellofellow
[03:32] <cellofellow> ToddEDM: you are welcome :)
[03:32] <Scunizi> cjones, at least searching numlock in synaptic comes up with it.  Looks right.
[03:32] <cjones> scunizi so can i apt-get it ?
[03:33] <Scunizi> cjones, should be able to.
[03:33] <gmcastil> alsadk: it could be tricky...dunno if the livecd has the right tool on it
[03:33] <cjones> scunizi  thanks
[03:33] <nemilar> I think there's a setting in the Admin panels somewhere for numlock, cjones
[03:33] <Scunizi> cjones, np
[03:33] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , for marage two partisions
[03:33] <gmcastil> brb
[03:33] <cellofellow> alsadk: you can't do that really, afaik.
[03:34] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow ,whats that tool
[03:34] <cellofellow> alsadk: you can delete the latter one, and then resize the former to fill the gap.
[03:34] <yanger> not sure if it's the right place to ask, but.. i'm a ubuntu user :D trying to edit a js file located in a folder that was created with firefox (using the save-as) using gedit... normally, files open fast, but this 21k js file takes a few minutes... is there a reason why it takes so long?
[03:34] <Scunizi> Font Viewer.. any recommendations?
[03:34] <cellofellow> alsadk: just use gparted, I never figured out fdisk.
[03:34] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i can not do it
[03:35] <norv> yanger: that's strange, and even if it's not located on the network I've had lots of "IO Freezes"
[03:35] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i deleted both partisions
[03:35] <norv> yanger: never minutes, though, even with full RAM
[03:35] <yanger> norv, eh?
[03:36] <cellofellow> alsadk: make a new one then
[03:36] <Scunizi> norv, me too
[03:36] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , but i can't increase one of them more than
[03:36] <yanger> no i/o errors here...
[03:36] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow ,?
[03:36] <el_taco> yanger might be a character set problem. what happens when you open it with nano?
[03:36] <cellofellow> alsadk: there may be a strange order of the /dev numbers. There is a fdisk trick I used once or twice that fixes that but I forget.
[03:37] <cellofellow> alsadk: involves expert mode
[03:37] <yanger> el_taco, a few seconds
[03:37] <yanger> welll.. not even
[03:37] <norv> yanger: freezes, as a file open from a hard disk just stalls
[03:37] <norv> then it's a problem with char sets, or gedit
[03:37] <yanger> so it maybe just a char set
[03:37] <yanger> oh... *smacks head* the coloring format i bet
[03:37] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i want to install ubuntu
[03:37] <yanger> it is 21k... :|
[03:38] <TallMike> Is there a place on the website to show you how to install things if you can't use add/remove?
[03:38] <bruenig> TallMike, man apt
[03:38] <cellofellow> alsadk: you didn't just nuke a Windows install you wanted to keep?
[03:38] <tehmass> wuts the extenstion you are trying to install?
[03:38] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , give me a keyword for search
[03:38] <Scunizi> how do you use the command line to start a .jar program?
[03:38] <cellofellow> TallMike: You hve no sudo rights?
[03:38] <bruenig> Scunizi, java -jar whatever.jar
[03:38] <jrib> Scunizi: java -jar file.jar
[03:38] <gmcastil> alsadk: try the keyword 'ubuntu'
[03:39] <Scunizi> thanks
[03:39] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i didn't have any os right now
[03:39] <gmcastil> alsadk: you can install from the livecd
[03:39] <cellofellow> alsadk: you should have at least two, preferably three partitions.
[03:39] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i leaved win for now unless
[03:40] <el_taco> alsadk if you are looking to dual boot windows needs to be installed first.
[03:40] <cellofellow> TallMike: If you do not have root rights you need to install software in your home directory.
[03:40] <gmcastil> el_taco: someone just shot their foot off
[03:40] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i know about installing i want to increase the partision
[03:40] <tehmass> anyone have problems with mplayer? with a error MODULE 6
[03:40] <techgeek40> Good Evening
[03:40] <techgeek40> All
[03:41] <chimx> I just installed ubuntu 7.10, and Flash will not install correctly.  Can anyone help me?
[03:41] <alsadk> el_taco i don't want win just linux
[03:41] <tritium> chimx: from the topic. /msg ubotu flashissues
[03:41] <Scunizi> !flash | chimx
[03:41] <ubotu> chimx: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[03:41] <techgeek40> techmass:  mplayer? with a error MODULE 6
[03:41] <gmcastil> alsadk: then....install ubuntu from the livecd
[03:41] <techgeek40> tehmass: try http://www.debianadmin.com/install-mplayer-ubuntu.html
[03:42] <chimx> I've installed restricted packages
[03:42] <el_taco> alsadk during install it asks if you wish to use the entire disk.
[03:42] <chimx> and that doesn't work
[03:42] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , i want to increase the size of partition before install
[03:42] <chimx> I've tried Adobe's flash installer
[03:42] <chimx> I've tried gnash
[03:42] <gmcastil> alsadk: you will have a really difficult time doing that, i think
[03:42] <homecable> how should i part a shell server ?
[03:42] <chimx> Gnash almost worked, in that flash was working -- but it was all messed up
[03:42] <gmcastil> alsadk: how large are your partitions?
[03:42] <Scunizi> Anyone looking for a font viewer... Opcion works well.
[03:42] <homecable> muti user box
[03:42] <chimx> i had to uninstall it
[03:43] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , about 2900
[03:43] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , MB
[03:43] <cjones> where can i find the "stoped jobs"
[03:44] <techgeek40> chimx: try http://www.lazytechguy.com/2008/01/installing-flash-plugin-in-firefox-on.html
[03:44] <techgeek40> It's designed for Gutsy
[03:44] <gmcastil> alsadk: You aren't really making a lot of sense, so until you can clearly tell us the size of your hard drive, the number of partitions, and what size each is, no one can help you.
[03:44] <homecable> is /home a primary or logical part ?
[03:44] <NICOI69> how can i get VMWARE to work on my computer i keep getting a i386 error
[03:45] <techgeek40> Homecable: Primary
[03:45] <gmcastil> homecable: its none  of those - its a mount point
[03:45] <tehmass> NICOI69: are u running a i386 distro?
[03:45] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow el_cato, i want to increase partition for additional apps after installing ubuntu
[03:45] <cjones> when i try to get out of su by typing exit it says there are stoped jobs wher do i find the stoped jobs
[03:45] <NICOI69> i have no idea im pretty new to linux
[03:45] <tehmass> what distro r u using?
[03:45] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , ok let may try to put info
[03:45] <cjones> ubuntu
[03:45] <tehmass> well of course :D
[03:45] <tehmass> lol
[03:45] <NICOI69> im using unbuntu 7.10
[03:46] <NICOI69> ubuntu*
[03:46] <tehmass> well did u download the x86 or amd
[03:46] <Tuari> !gparted | alsadk
[03:46] <ubotu> alsadk: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[03:46] <drusepth> I just compiled pidgin from source from my desktop (ubuntu gutsy), and it runs fine as long as I go to the folder on my desktop and type ./pidgin - but I want to install an addon now so I go to where I extracted the source and do the ./configure, but it doesn't find pidgin because it's on my desktop instead of /usr/bin or wherever..  Can I just symlink there, or do I need to move everything there, or recompile there?
[03:46] <gmcastil> OMG
[03:46] <NICOI69> ^not sure lol
[03:46] <tehmass> you need to find out :P
[03:46] <cjones> ubuntu
[03:46] <cjones> when i try to get out of su by typing exit it says there are stoped jobs wher do i find the stoped jobs
[03:46] <NICOI69> how do i  do that
[03:46] <tehmass> look at the file you downloaded
[03:46] <techgeek40> Nicoi69: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671802
[03:46] <mnemonica> Hey. After I installed a wacom graphire4 tablet, my synaptics touchpad vert scrolled stopped working. Help?
[03:47] <NICOI69> looking now brb ty
[03:47] <el_taco> alsadk you need the root partition and swap. swap should be 2x your ram. other than that use what you want.
[03:47] <ridge-meister> is there a channel for Open Office?  i have a Spreadsheet question
[03:47] <techgeek40> mnemonica: are you also using a USB wireless mouse?
[03:47] <alsadk> tuari i can not increase partition with it
[03:47] <techgeek40> ridge-meister: What's the question - I use both open office and MS Excel
[03:48] <compy> im trying to install firefox on 64 bit w/ flash and i need to do this output it to our rc file
[03:48] <compy> with this /etc/pango32/pangorc
[03:48] <mnemonica> No... I'm using the touchpad on my laptop
[03:48] <compy> anyone know what im taking about how to do that?
[03:48] <cellofellow> TallMike: to install TinyFugue, run `sudo apt-get install tf` in a terminal.
[03:48] <ridge-meister> techgeek40: i need a way to total the values in a column without knowing in advance how many rows will have data
[03:48] <nickrud> lag sucks
[03:49] <cjones> when i logout of root by typing "exit" it says there are stoped jobs how do i find out what jobs are stoped
[03:49] <gmcastil> cjones: man ps
[03:49] <mnemonica> techgeek40: No, I'm using the touchpad on my laptop... It has a Vertical scroll on the sides. The mouse on the wacom tablet works perfectly. But the touchpad's scroll does work at all. It worked before I installed the graphire4 tablet.
[03:49] <nickrud> cjones: type   jobs   in the terminal
[03:49] <cjones> thanks
[03:49] <Ububegin> can any of u guys, pass my the startup script for Apache 2.0
[03:49] <cellofellow> mnemonica: check the synaptics settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and man synaptics for info.
[03:50] <techgeek40> in the last column that you want info in type sum=(a1+d1) basically - you put the value in the first cell ---- highlight the last cell and type sum=  then left click on the first cell and then highlight the remaining cells you think you will use
[03:50] <techgeek40> hey nickrude
[03:50] <techgeek40> mnemonica: let me look
[03:50] <TallMike> CellofEllow: It tells me it can't find the package.
[03:50] <ridge-meister> techgeek40: appreciate the help, but that's  not what i am looking for :/
[03:50] <compy> anyone know why i would get a permissions denied thing when i type this command
[03:50] <compy> sudo mkdir -p /etc/pango32
[03:50] <compy> sudo echo " [Pango]
[03:50] <compy> &gt; ModuleFiles=/etc/pango32/pango.modules
[03:50] <compy> &gt; [PangoX]
[03:50] <compy> &gt; AliasFiles=/etc/pango/pangox.aliases " &gt; /etc/pango32/pangorc
[03:50] <FloodBot3> compy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <compy> oops sorry ^^^^^^
[03:51] <techgeek40> compy type sudo su - enter then a password for root
[03:51] <nickrud> Ububegin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54279/ , specific to the apache as released in ubuntu
[03:51] <compy> techgeek40, i tried that
[03:51] <crdlb> techgeek40: sudo -i, not sudo su
[03:51] <mnemonica> techgeek40: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54280/
[03:51] <el_taco> or sudo -s
[03:51] <mnemonica> cellofellow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54280/
[03:51] <nickrud> techgeek40: hey back (and I try hard to not be rude ;)
[03:51] <ridge-meister> techgeek40: what i need is to have a value at the top of the column that is the sum of all the values in the cells below in that column....that way i can continue adding rows of new data and the sum will adjust on its own
[03:51] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , Hdd =80GB ,5.19GB ext3, unlocated 1019,78 MB & 7.84MB & 2.90GB, ntfs 64.37GB, ext3 101.94MB,swap 1GB
[03:51] <techgeek40> heheh sorry - I just use the sudo su - makes life a tad simpler for me - my apologies
[03:52] <norv> compy: crdlb: errm, sudo not working either means a corrupt sudoers or your user isn't admin
[03:52] <el_taco> alsadk how much ram do you have?
[03:52] <compy> ok
[03:52] <gmcastil> alsadk: pastebin the output of fdisk
[03:52] <gmcastil> !pastebin > alsadk
[03:52] <norv> techgeek40: su makes it a tad simpler for me, IMO it's always nice to have root available (because it's available at reboot anyway)
[03:52] <techgeek40> ridge: then do sum=(a1)+(a1000)  or higher - that way as you're adding cells it will climb
[03:52] <compy> no i am root in terminal and get this -bash: /etc/pango32/pangorc: Permission denied
[03:53] <Cpudan80> then you are not root
[03:53] <compy> root@compya:~#
[03:53] <Cpudan80> There *is* no root
[03:53] <techgeek40> or a1+z1000 - which ever way you're going
[03:53] <compy> i seem to be
[03:53] <ComputerHermit> lol
[03:53] <alsadk> el_cato 192
[03:53] <Cpudan80> compy: How did you log in as root?
[03:53] <compy> ok im confused
[03:53] <compy> i su -i
[03:53] <compy> like you guys said lol
[03:53] <crdlb> norv: yes I know that, I was just advising him not to recommenc 'sudo su' (which is completely evil)
[03:53] <gmcastil> Cpudan80: sudo bash
[03:53] <techgeek40> <---woke up confused this morning
[03:53] <nickrud> compy: if you're already root, you don't need the sudo echo. And sudo echo doesn't work, anyway
[03:53] <Cpudan80> gmcastil: bad!
[03:53] <Cpudan80> sudo -i
[03:53] <cellofellow> mnemonica: look for stuff about vscroll in the 'man synaptics' manpage.
[03:53] <norv> root can get permission denied errors... just not often
[03:53] <norv> if something is 000 it will be denied for root.. but changing it to 600 or such will work
[03:54] <techgeek40> crdlb: yes it is - but has gotten me out of some installation messes
[03:54] <jetscreamer> just change root's pw
[03:54] <Ububegin> nickrud: will this work for httpd-2.0.63.tar.gz package ..tks
[03:54] <jetscreamer> viola
[03:54] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , is it work while using live cd
[03:54] <compy> yes your right i dont need sudo but it still does not work
[03:54] <nickrud> Ububegin: probably not
[03:54] <compy> i have changed root password
[03:54] <compy> and thats what im using
[03:54] <crdlb> techgeek40: sudo -i works just as well (not that you ever really need it)
[03:54] <nickrud> Ububegin: make that, certainly not
[03:54] <gmcastil> alsadk: yes...run fdisk /dev/<HDD device> and the press p to print the partition table.  paste its output
[03:54] <norv> crdlb: what exactly does that do? uses superuser id to log in as root?
[03:54] <cellofellow> what's the diff between sudo -i, sudo -s, and sudo su? oh, and sudo bash works too.
[03:54] <crdlb> norv: "interactive mode" for sudo
[03:54] <gmcastil> cellofellow: man su
[03:55] <techgeek40> crdlb: no arguments from me on that - just gave the quick one that I used a lot - but then I did reboot after each installing of process I was using it for
[03:55] <Ububegin> nickrud: Oh.. I actually installed apache or httpd from source.. thus I am now required to add a few lines to my Apache startup script... any ideas. tks
[03:55] <cellofellow> gmcastil: ah, well. I use sudo -s, and I don't know what sudo -i does.
[03:55] <crdlb> cellofellow: the first is like 'su' and the second is like 'su -', the rest were never intended to be used like that
[03:55] <mnemonica> cellofellow: I don't see anything like that in there.
[03:55] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , from where , terminal?
[03:55] <techgeek40> nickrud: long time no see, bud - how's it going for ya these days?
[03:56] <gmcastil> alsadk: yes
[03:56] <nickrud> Ububegin: not really. I used the packages so I didn't have to handle that stuff myself
[03:56] <cellofellow> mnemonica: try VertScroll
[03:56] <neald> Hey all, I'm trying to install xubuntu via a partion from another linux system.  I mounted the image, copied all the contents to a partition, set grup to boot to that drive, I get a boot, but I get an error (kernel panic) on the loading of scripts and it kills init.  Anyone know off hand what I did wrong?
[03:56] <nickrud> techgeek40: good, all in all
[03:56] <techgeek40> nickrud: having fun with all the democrats there today? LOL
[03:56] <cellofellow> mnemonica: you can hit '/searchterm' to find stuff, and hit 'n' to go to the next match.
[03:56] <nickrud> crdlb: only time I ever use sudo -i is to cd into a dir that's read only by root
[03:57] <Tygir> what is v4l2?
[03:57] <gmcastil> nickrud: i use it all the time
[03:57] <Tygir> is that video4linux2?
[03:57] <cellofellow> neald: is that a CD image you have copied to the hard drive?
[03:57] <nickrud> techgeek40: politics are off topic, I'd have to kill you if I told you mine :)
[03:57] <gmcastil> nickrud: but, thats because i work from the cmd line primarily
[03:57] <cellofellow> Tygir: yes
[03:57] <techgeek40> LOL
[03:57] <techgeek40> nickrud: deal
[03:57] <godlygeek> any chance that someone can point me to info on how the proc filesystem's permissions are set up?  i can't figure out why /proc/PID is owned me:me, but every file in it is root:root... :-/
[03:57] <mnemonica> I used ctrl+f.... searched for both vscroll and vertscroll and Vertscroll. No results.
[03:58] <neald> cellofellow yes, I copied the image, mounted it, then copied its contents to a ~750mb partition, then set grup to load that partition.
[03:58] <gmcastil> godlygeek: because its not real
[03:58] <mnemonica> cellofellow: I used ctrl+f.... searched for both vscroll and vertscroll and Vertscroll. No results.
[03:58] <el_taco> anyone here use a board with AMD northbridge? I'm looking for a new board and wonder if there's any compatibility issues
[03:58] <Tygir> cellofellow: where can i get that? synaptic doesnt have anything...
[03:58] <techgeek40> I'll be afk for a few - I have to go yell at my 5 year old who won't go to sleep at 11 at night and about 100 emails I have to get out before my boss kills me
[03:58] <Ububegin> nickrud: maybe i will try to script .. what i shld i name it.. and I put it in the /etc/init.d directory rite
[03:58] <cellofellow> neald: ain't gonna work. That's a CD image.
[03:58] <ridge-meister> techgeek40: that would help better, what you suggested, but it doesn't really scale.....is there not a way for Spreadsheet/Excel to figure out on its own which cell is the last cell with data in a column?
[03:58] <nickrud> gmcastil: personally I've been using sudo as self protection long before ubuntu made it their security model. I'm in complete agreement with them
[03:58] <godlygeek> gmcastil: i know it's a virtual fs...
[03:58] <Ububegin> nickrud: your script i mean
[03:58] <godlygeek> gmcastil: but it's info for a process that i'm running.
[03:58] <godlygeek> gmcastil: and it's only one process that i'm seeing it with, not all processes...
[03:58] <neald> Okay, I followed a howto from the site, I suppose it is out of date?  Can you point me to an up-to-date one?
[03:58] <cellofellow> Tygir: it's not a program, really, but an API and libraries. Provides /dev/video so that userspace programs can interface with video devices.
[03:59] <cellofellow> Tygir: part of the kernel in other words.
[03:59] <godlygeek> gmcastil: in particular, i tested with 'slashem' and 'vim'... seems that it works as expected from vim, but not slashem...
[03:59] <compy> anyone have a tutorial to install flash on 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:59] <techgeek40> ridge: there is but it's a lot of scripting - and there around 1,000 web sites for that  some charge some don't - I just generally keep it easy and shoot the last cell as a high number and can add to it - because in the first cell I can change the last cell number to what I want
[03:59] <compy> every tutorial i have followed has given me errors
[03:59] <gmcastil> nickrud: for beginning users, yes...it definitely helps keep people from doing something loony
[03:59] <norv> cellofellow: btw, I've easily installed linux by not even extracting/burning the CD image
[03:59] <Tygir> cellofellow: well...how do i go about getting these libraries?
[03:59] <godlygeek> perhaps the permissions on /proc/$SLASHEMPID/* are tighter because slashem has its setgid bit set?
[03:59] <cellofellow> norv: I have in a VM, but never tried on a real machine.
[03:59] <decipher7> compy: i installed firefox32 havent tried installing flash.... but firefox works.... flash should
[03:59] <Gman99999> Anyone know how to check what modules you have loaded are?
[03:59] <gmcastil> Gman99999: lsmod
[04:00] <nickrud> Ububegin: that's worth a try, reading it over I don't see anything that is truly ubuntu specific off hand, except maybe the paths at the beginning
[04:00] <Gman99999> more specifically what wireless driver modules?
[04:00] <techgeek40> ridge: mean if I put sum=(a1)+(a1000) I can change the a1000 to a10000
[04:00] <techgeek40> very easily
[04:00] <compy> decipher7, tried that you have the tutorial so i can try it again or see if its a different one than i used
[04:00] <gmcastil> Gman99999: lsmod
[04:00] <decipher7> compy: do you hav e32 bit firefox installed?
[04:00] <jwelcher> Quick Question: how can I tell if my updates are working to get to 6.06.2 if I do an "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" but I still see 6.06.1 when I look in /etc/lsb-release?
[04:00] <gmcastil> Gman99999: you'll need to know what the module name is
[04:00] <mnemonica> cellofellow: I used ctrl+f.... searched for both vscroll and vertscroll and Vertscroll. No results.
[04:00] <cellofellow> Tygir: There are a couple of packages in the repos, as far as I know. I haven't messed with it in almost a year.
[04:00] <compy> decipher7, yeah
[04:00] <Gman99999> ok I will find out
[04:00] <gmcastil> Gman99999: so, lspci will tell you whats on your machine
[04:00] <Ububegin> nickrud: what should i name this file...  it cant be anyname right
[04:00] <decipher7> compy: all the libraries too?
[04:00] <techgeek40> BrB
[04:00] <cellofellow> mnemonica: try just Scroll, I got tons of stuff.
[04:00] <neald> norv can you help me get mine going? I want to have (x)ubuntu, currently have debian.  No CD or USB option.
[04:00] <Tygir> cellofellow: what am i supposed to search for?
[04:00] <nickrud> Ububegin: anything you like, yes
[04:00] <compy> decipher7, yep
[04:01] <cellofellow> Tygir: v4l
[04:01] <ridge-meister> techgeek40: kind of sad, isn't it?  :D  i mean, crap, in python or something it might only be a couple of lines to figure out what the last line in a file with data in it is.....oh well, i'll just use your last suggestion.......didn't really want to have to do it, but at least it won't occur that frequently
[04:01] <decipher7> compy: flash just doesnt work?
[04:01] <nickrud> Ububegin: but apache2 seems a good name :)
[04:01] <norv> neald: errm, using the image was done through a USB thumb drive, so no
[04:01] <alsadk> gmcastil cellofellow , give me what i type exactly in the terminal
[04:01] <Ububegin> nickrud: :S really... k... thanks again
[04:01] <gmcastil> alsadk: fdisk /dev/<hard drive>
[04:01] <compy> decipher7, npoe
[04:01] <neald> norv should be pretty similar... or did you boot to usb?
[04:01] <gmcastil> alsadk: it'll be something like hda or hdb or maybe sda if you have newer drives
[04:02] <decipher7> compy: can't help ya there.  i havent tried it yet.
[04:02]  * nickrud wasn't a beginner when he did the rm -rf in a root terminal by mistake ;(
[04:02] <compy> decipher7, hehe thanks
[04:02] <mnemonica> The only thing I'm finding is something about horizscroll. Did you even look at my xorg.conf? I gave you the pastebin link. I don't have anything about vertscroll anywhere. Maybe that's the problem.
[04:02] <Gman99999> is there an easy way to remove modules?
[04:02] <norv> neald: I booted from usb, which had a version of syslinux and the images
[04:02] <Gman99999> or is blacklisting a better option?
[04:02] <lunaphyte> hi
[04:02] <alsadk> gmcastil bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[04:02] <gmcastil> Gman99999: rmmod
[04:02] <cellofellow> gmcastil: in gutsy all drives are sd** now.
[04:02] <mnemonica> cellofellow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54280/
[04:02] <nickrud> Gman99999: blacklisting is a much better idea than deleting them
[04:02] <decipher7> np
[04:03] <gmcastil> cellofellow: he's using the livecd...and i think cd drives are still seen as hda
[04:03] <Gnine> !bug 1
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[04:03] <neald> norv right, I can't boot usb on mine, grr
[04:03] <norv> nickrud: that's why I replaced rm with mv $* ~/.trash
[04:03] <m55> is there a copy command that shows a progress indicator?
[04:03] <nickrud> gmcastil, cellofellow and on my install, it's still hdX in gutsy
[04:03] <m55> (terminal command)
[04:03] <cellofellow> mnemonica: sorry, I can't figure this out :$
[04:03] <neald> Okay, I'm just going to have to do this the hard way and follow the init chain until I see where it hangs.  I'll have it installed within a couple weeks I hope :)
[04:04] <Gman99999> what if you install two modules with the same name?
[04:04] <julio> How to edit PDF files?
[04:04] <Gman99999> yet they are different
[04:04] <Gnine> and i thought it was offtopic to talk about removing root
[04:04]  * cellofellow still has hd?? drives cause he upgraded from Feisty.
[04:04] <mnemonica> cellofellow: Do you use a graphire4 wacom tablet?
[04:04] <techgeek40> nickrud: I am depressed - NOTHING I have tried will get my NetGear PCMCIA card working :< (heavy sigh)
[04:04] <norv> nickrud: it was a little more sophisticated than that, though because you do have to be able to delete things eventually
[04:04] <decipher7> compy: did you try this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+java+flash?
[04:04] <gmcastil> techgeek40: is it an older one?
[04:04] <cellofellow> mnemonica: no, but I do use a synaptics touchpad I had to configure.
[04:04] <nickrud> norv: heh. Another decent safety net. I believe in multiple levels of preventing brain damage damaging my machine
[04:04] <mnemonica> cellofellow: Could you paste and send me your xorg.conf?
[04:05] <cellofellow> mnemonica: sure
[04:05] <compy> decipher7, yeah didnt work
[04:05] <mnemonica> cellofellow: :) Thank you.
[04:05] <techgeek40> gmcastil: it's the 54 Mbps Wireless PC Card (PCMCIA) WG511 v2
[04:05] <compy> ill keep on looking... thanks for the help though
[04:05] <techgeek40> I even did the ndiswrapper
[04:05] <nickrud> techgeek40: I know little about wireless ...
[04:05] <norv> cellofellow: I've had feisty and upgraded to gutsy and the only hd?? drive was the cdrom
[04:05] <gmcastil> techgeek40: that's probably the only way to make it work...and it still might not
[04:05] <Gman99999> nickrud do you know how to remove two modules with the same name?
[04:05] <gmcastil> techgeek40: some of the older wireless pcmcia cards just plain sucked in linux
[04:05] <Tygir> cellofellow: i have the 2.6.24 kernel...does that matter?
[04:06] <nickrud> Gman99999: two modules with the same name? in use at the same time?
[04:06] <Gman99999> nickrud I installed two rt2570 modules one from the aircrack mainpage and one from the proper source
[04:06] <alsadk> gmcastil ,Unable to open /dev/sda8
[04:06] <techgeek40> gmcastil: I'm noticing - but I even read the FAQ on netgear's site - got the lastest drivers for Windows 2000/XP and followed all the helpme / readme's I could
[04:06] <lunaphyte> i have a machine that is making a ton of dns queries.  how can i determine which process(es) are causing this?
[04:06] <Gman99999> nickrud this could be why my wireless has not been working
[04:06] <norv> Gnine: removing root? root's been "removed" by default already, right?
[04:06] <cellofellow> mnemonica: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54282/
[04:06] <techgeek40> nickrud; if you want to give it a shot - let me know I'll set up the laptop and do the commands to see if I can get you any info you need - I have the laptop with me tonight
[04:06] <nickrud> Gman99999: myself, I'd uninstall the aircrack one with make uninstall and reboot. I'm into brute force
[04:07] <gmcastil> lunaphyte: are they "whohas" queries?
[04:07] <cellofellow> mnemonica: the SHMConfig bit is so I could use gsynaptics to configure.
[04:07] <gmcastil> alsadk: /dev/sda
[04:07] <gmcastil> alsadk: sda8 is a partition...you want the actual device
[04:07] <Gman99999> nickrud ok how should I properly word that to uninstall that?
[04:07] <cellofellow> Tygir: um, not sure...
[04:07] <techgeek40> gmcastil: I will say this for XP/Vista - installation of drivers is not as indepth as it is in linux
[04:08] <Gman99999> nickrud will that take care of both drivers?
[04:08] <gmcastil> techgeek40: no one argues that linux requires the same amount of brain matter as windows
[04:08] <cellofellow> techgeek40: normally you don't even /have/ to install drivers in Linux. That's what I like.
[04:08] <nickrud> Gman99999: in the directory where you did the make install , do make uninstall (assuming it's a well made Makefile in there
[04:08] <techgeek40> LOL
[04:08] <lunaphyte> gmcastil: whohas?  i don't think so.  they're primarily queries for ptr records.
[04:08] <alsadk> gmcastil  fdisk /dev/sda  Unable to open /dev/sda
[04:08] <David37> hi all
[04:08]  * cellofellow waves to David37 
[04:09] <nickrud> alsadk: sudo fdisk -l  , you need sudo to read the device
[04:09] <godlygeek> gmcastil: hm.  nevermind.  it's happening because of the setgid bit.. it only happens on an old edgy kernel, and not a new gutsy kernel... i can't imagine that anything other than the kernel could be behind the different /proc perms...
[04:09] <techgeek40> gmcastil: the company I work for is asking me to get my linux running good (on my laptop that I take to work) so they can install their software with wine and sell it - but sadly - the application isn't working too well
[04:09] <alsadk> nickrud thx]
[04:09] <gmcastil> godlygeek: yeah, thats what i figured...i've enve worried about /proc
[04:09] <David37> <---- new to ubuntu and i cant install my display drivers i have a 8800gt video card
[04:09] <gmcastil> lunaphyte: try 'netstat -pv'
[04:10] <danielax> David37: what have you tried?
[04:10] <techgeek40> David: Nvidia?
[04:10] <godlygeek> gmcastil: well, if you still had a machine running edgy, you'd be bitten by this.  heh...
[04:10] <gmcastil> techgeek40: and you've never used linux before?
[04:10] <David37> yes nvidia
[04:10] <norv> techgeek40: apps that really use windows rarely work well in wine
[04:10] <David37> correct new to linux
[04:10] <techgeek40> gmcastil: I did about ten years ago - briefly - but mainly for 26 years been dos/windows guy
[04:10] <norv> techgeek40: those which just end up writing half the api over again seem to work just fine
[04:10] <danielax> is there something listed in System->adminstration->Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:10] <gmcastil> techgeek40: yikes
[04:11] <techgeek40> david: 32 or 64 bit version
[04:11] <David37> no it says i dont have any restricted drivers
[04:11] <gmcastil> techgeek40: i'd probably take the time that they're giving you to learn linux
[04:11] <techgeek40> gmcastil: it's not been bad - I've actually enjoyed it in a lot of ways
[04:11] <gmcastil> techgeek40: yeah....take every opportunity to learn new skills
[04:11] <techgeek40> gmcastil: I am - trust me I am
[04:11] <danielax> David37: in terminal, run lspci, and check it's listed there
[04:11] <norv> techgeek40: so is it a Ubuntu problem or a Wine problem?
[04:11] <danielax> David37: terminal is in Applications->accessories
[04:11] <godlygeek> gmcastil: 06:06:13 up 368 days, 10:31, 17 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 (I don't wanna dist-upgrade... heh)
[04:11] <mopflite> arse
[04:11] <mopflite> oops
[04:12] <gmcastil>  04:11:56 up 2 days,  2:27,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.09, 0.03
[04:12] <gmcastil>  
[04:12] <techgeek40> norv: not really sure to be honest about it - the "splash" screen comes up - some what - but then closes out
[04:12] <David37> ill try that i can find terminal no prob
[04:12] <warriorforgod> 22:12:12 up  5:36,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04
[04:12] <gmcastil> i had a mail server with an uptime of over 3 years
[04:12] <David37> so i type run lspci ?
[04:12] <gmcastil> was running redhat 7
[04:12] <danielax> David37: just lspci, then hit enter
[04:12] <godlygeek> gmcastil: hehe, i'm thrilled.  this machine has been up for almost 5% of my life.
[04:12] <warriorforgod> Just installed a new biostar ta770 and an athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition
[04:12] <David37> kk
[04:12] <David37> im dual booted let me try that
[04:12] <warriorforgod> Runnin smooth at 3.1 Ghz.
[04:13] <alsadk> gmcastil http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54284/
[04:13] <David37> thanks for the info ill be back im sure :P
[04:13] <norv> techgeek40: um, Ubuntu.. OR the application
[04:13] <techgeek40> David37: also try http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.09.html - I have noticed that a lot more people are having luck doing the drivers from there - but follow the readme closely - but within about 30 minutes or less you can ahve the card workign
[04:13] <gmcastil> alsadk: press p to print the partition table
[04:13] <norv> techgeek40: one or the other
[04:13] <danielax> David37: no probs
[04:13] <gmcastil> David37: i wouldn't do that
[04:13] <techgeek40> norv: I can't really tell to be honest
[04:13] <Gman99999> Ive got this driver rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.1 any idea about how to un-install it?  I found the directy but now Im trying to figure out the command, I tried this so far g@unknown:~/rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.1$ make uninstall
[04:13] <norv> techgeek40: um, yes you can. you invoke applications, you start up systems
[04:13] <techgeek40> I got it to install using wine - but the application just closes out (the app does - not ubuntu)
[04:14] <Gman99999> Ive got this driver rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.1 any idea about how to un-install it?  I found the directy but now Im trying to figure out the command, I tried this so far g@unknown:~/rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.1$ make uninstall
[04:14] <norv> techgeek40: okay, it's an application.. thanks
[04:14] <nickrud> Gman99999: you would need sudo make uninstall (sorry about forgetting sudo)
[04:14] <noodles12> i'm trying to synce my WM5 smartphone so i can upgrade to WM6. i'm at http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceWithUbuntu but the repos for opensync shows fiesty on there. Is that safe if i have gutsy? or should i just change it to gutsy? or should i assume opensync isn't available for gutsy yet?
[04:14] <danielax> techgeek40: what does the verbose options in wine tell you
[04:14] <TallMike> After I get install a program, what do I have to do after? make install doesn't do much
[04:14] <norv> techgeek40: and I couldn't help you with AppDB the list of working Wine apps, because yours is likely in-house
[04:14] <Gman99999> nickrud this is what it says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[04:14] <techgeek40> norv: the programmers for the company are looking into it - we seem to think right now due to the applications voice processes that some of our customers use (netframe) may be responsible
[04:14] <gmcastil> why do so many people want to use WINE with ubuntu?
[04:15] <alsadk> gmcastil  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54285/
[04:15] <danielax> (i'd tell you what they are but it's been a while since I've used wine)
[04:15] <gmcastil> Gman99999: then the Makefile doesn't have an uninstall option
[04:15] <techgeek40> danielax: Nto sure - never looked because I didn't think aobut it - but also because I wouldn't know how to get that information
[04:15] <norv> techgeek40: pastebin the output as well, and no, customers can't be responsible for the code unless it's open source
[04:15] <usacomputertec> HELP
[04:15] <nickrud> Gman99999: then it's not a well made Makefile. You'll have to find the module in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) , figure out which is the one you installed, and delete it by hand
[04:15] <usacomputertec> I can't edit my GRUB
[04:16] <gmcastil> alsadk: uh...well, you're kinda screwed dude
[04:16] <danielax> techgeek40: i know it's an environment flag, or at least it was
[04:16] <seacat> usacomputertec, Then try editing menu.lst
[04:16] <danielax> usacomputertec: have you tried editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:16] <alsadk> gmcastil ??? explain
[04:16] <techgeek40> novr: No, I mean - we have a lot customers that use our software for voice (voice recognition) which uses an app called speechgate - SDK - and that links to viavoice or dragon -
[04:16] <usacomputertec> I went here http://www.gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=merlwiz79&action=contents but I can't compile the source code
[04:16] <gmcastil> alsadk: i'd try copying your stuff to an external hard drive or something, then reformat and reinstall
[04:16] <bulmer> usacomputertec-> are you  root when editing?
[04:16] <usacomputertec> yes
[04:16] <Gnine> !grub
[04:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <seacat> usacomputertec, What is your problem?
[04:16] <usacomputertec> I want to edit the graphics
[04:16] <deahtihs> i got compiz and enabled desktop cube but i dont know how to get it working
[04:17] <alsadk> gmcastil i there wrong ?
[04:17] <seacat> usacomputertec, The splash screen?
[04:17] <techgeek40> danielax: I can fire up the laptop and if you want - give me some insight to what I should look for or commands I can type to get the information and I'll paste it for ya if you want
[04:17] <usacomputertec> no
[04:17] <usacomputertec> seact I can edit the spash screen
[04:17] <usacomputertec> it's the graphics on the first screen
[04:17] <usacomputertec> the GRUB menu
[04:17] <nemilar> Does anyone know the name of the command, that shows you the codes for the keys and mouse buttons?  you press a button and it generates the info...
[04:18] <deahtihs> i got compiz, enabled the cube thing but i dontk now how to get it working. is there any way i can see the buttons that do what, like rotate etc. i got the rotation thing enabled too
[04:18] <nickrud> usacomputertec:   You used   gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst as your main user?
[04:18] <norv> techgeek40: well, does the app fail to run on Windows without speechgate/viavoice/dragon installed?
[04:18] <danielax> techgeek40: (you're the wine guy,right? - I loose track :) - umm - let me check on the wine web site
[04:18] <techgeek40> LOL might even be a chance to see if nickrud would be very very nice and help me with the PCMCIA issue - he's pretty good so I have the utmost confidence he could get me on the right track (is kissing butt allowed in here? LOL)
[04:18] <Gman99999> nickrud Ive got a list of directories which one would hold the driver I seek?  madwifi?
[04:18] <techgeek40> norv: nope - it can run without
[04:18] <alsadk> gmcastil i there something wrong?
[04:18] <norv> danielax: errm, it's not an app you can just get, so it wouldn't be on appdb
[04:19] <techgeek40> danielax: LOL I have NO idea about wine - I just read and read and read
[04:19] <danielax> deahtihs: run the GL Desktop program in System->Pref..s->GL Desktop
[04:19] <norv> danielax: or it's very unlikely to be, at first I thought it was inhouse now i'm not sure
[04:19] <norv> techgeek40: okay, then the problem is not that
[04:19] <nickrud> Gman99999: no clue, really. you could try   find /lib -iname rt2570
[04:19] <techgeek40> norv: but the settings I have (for want of a better word) is used for testing for both - since I support/do speech writting with a lot of our customers
[04:19] <seacat> usacomputertec, http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#1.1
[04:19] <danielax> norv: techgeek40: Im just looking for the flags to get it to be really really verbose
[04:20] <norv> techgeek40: well, unset the requirement that speech recognition be used first, to rule that out
[04:20] <nickrud> techgeek40: two problems there: I've never used pcmcia , and my wireles Works for Me™ :)
[04:20] <techgeek40> norv: I wouldn't say that - only for the fact that the settings I have right now would be for netframe that is calling for it - but I never did just create a new user and go that rough (duh me)
[04:20] <chuckf> has anyone else gotten any spam from ourbuntu.com?
[04:20] <techgeek40> let me fire it up
[04:20] <usacomputertec> seacat
[04:20] <techgeek40> Nickrud: please - i love you for long long time (LOL - j/k)
[04:21] <Gman99999> nickrud is there a way to make a better uninstall for the make file?
[04:21] <usacomputertec> I edited that file
[04:21] <techgeek40> brb - let me get my lapt top going (gotta log off here to use the internet because my #(&#*(& nick won't work GRRRRR)
[04:21] <usacomputertec> but it didn't change the picture file
[04:21] <Gman99999> nickrud Ive got the make file open right now lol
[04:21] <usacomputertec> how do I do that?
[04:21] <techgeek40> BrB
[04:21] <decipher7> IndyGunFreak: Good to see you again
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> likewise...
[04:21] <nickrud> Gman99999: not without already knowing where it was installed :)  The make file will tell you where it got installed, but I'm not good at reading them
[04:21] <mon^rch> hello... how can I get a program to always start maximized?
[04:22] <Gman99999> nickrud I guess Im proabbly looking at wiping ubuntu and re-installing from scratch
[04:22] <danielax> try WINEDEBUG=+all,-relay wine program_name
[04:22] <decipher7> indygunfreak: I reinstalled Ubuntu, this time i went with amd64 and worked out some kinks with firefox and usplash
[04:22] <norv> mon^rch: I think only devilspie or the app's own remembered settings (if it has any) can do that
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> decipher7: well, thats good...
[04:22] <decipher7> indygunfreak: i'm flyin' high now
[04:23] <mon^rch> ty norv
[04:23] <seacat> Gman99999, What is your problem?
[04:23] <Gman99999> seacat IVe got two modules installed witht he same name for the same device one of which I dont want installed anymore
[04:24] <Gman99999> seacat both of which are rt2570
[04:24] <alsadk> gmcastil thx
[04:24] <Gman99999> seacat I found the module in lib/modules/ its in the extra directory
[04:24] <seacat> Gman99999, That's not much of a problem.
[04:25] <Gman99999> seacat I checked the make file and it said its installed in that directory
[04:25] <nickrud> Gman99999:   do the find command I gave you earlier, you should get two files back. One of those is the new one. ls -l  each, the newer is most likely the new one. If you can't tell, delete both and do sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) (will reinstall the ubuntu module)
[04:25] <usacomputertec> woops
[04:25] <seacat> Gman99999, Not worthy of needing to reinstall
[04:25] <usacomputertec> looks like I opened that link in the wrong system
[04:25] <chrisov> greetings
[04:25] <Gman99999> nickrud that command didnt work but I found the module in extras
[04:26] <nickrud> Gman99999: then sudo rm <file>  in extras, if you're sure
[04:26] <Gman99999> nickrud its called rt2570.ko
[04:26] <chrisov> who can help me with nvidia 8600m GS drivers?
[04:26] <techgeek40> Back
[04:26] <seacat> Gman99999, What command did  nickrud   give you?
[04:26] <techgeek40> you may now scream in terror (hhehehe)
[04:26]  * danielax screams
[04:27] <techgeek40> danielax: I do that every morning I have to look at myself in the mirror
[04:27] <nickrud> seacat: find /lib -iname rt2570
[04:27] <Gman99999> seacat he gave me  find /lib -iname rt2570
[04:27] <techgeek40> okay - any luck with the verbose ???
[04:28] <Gman99999> seacat when we were trying to find the modules
[04:28] <nickrud> doh
[04:28] <seacat> Gman99999, Yea, or:  sudo updatedb ; locate rt2570
[04:28] <techgeek40> nickrud: what's the best way to see if gutsy is even seeing my nick card?
[04:28] <nickrud> Gman99999: doh. 'rt2540*' should have been the last one, brain damage on my part
[04:28] <danielax> techgeek40: so what does the last few lines of WINEDEBUG=+all,-relay wine program_name say?
[04:28] <techqbert> screw transmission, we should make deluge official.  posters on ubuntu forums even wrote the software.  its brilliant.
[04:28] <gmcastil> hmmm...the man page for dpkg sucks
[04:29] <seacat> Gman99999, Is the module actually loading?    See:  lsmod |grep rt2570
[04:29] <nickrud> techgeek40: I'm not even sure where pcmcia cards show up.
[04:29] <norv> nickrud: techgeek40: lspci
[04:29] <techgeek40> danielax: ahhhh - not sure I could even find that
[04:29] <danielax> gmcastil: maybe that because you're supposed to use apt-get or aptitude
[04:30] <danielax> techgeek40: ? you're the guy with the wine question, righ?
[04:30] <David37> i typed in terminal lspci it had vga comp. contr. unknown device 0611 (rev a 2)
[04:30] <gmcastil> danielax: yeah...god forbid i actually use the programs on my system
[04:30]  * nickrud needs to get a pcmcia card, just for kicks someday
[04:30] <danielax> David37: hmm
[04:30] <techgeek40> yeap
[04:30] <compy> if i have a folder named DVD Decrypter/  with the space between the two words... how do i access it in the terminal....
[04:30] <techgeek40> norv: one sec
[04:30] <techgeek40> danielax: let me look
[04:30] <compy> it wont let me tab to complete it because there are multiple items
[04:30] <techgeek40> I'll see if I can find
[04:30] <techgeek40> !paste
[04:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <gmcastil> danielax: besides....apt-get won't tell you what packages own a file
[04:31] <Alyxander> or really stupid question, How do i get the windows that are not in focus to become transparent?
[04:31] <Gman99999> seacat ok I tired the command and nothing happened
[04:31] <nickrud> David37, danielax the 8800gt isn't supported by the nvidia drivers in ubuntu I don't think.
[04:31] <danielax> David37: you can try to configure it as a vesa or vga card
[04:31] <danielax> David37: although you won't get any acelleration
[04:31] <David37> anyone have a link to a step by step nvidia display driver for an 8800gt?
[04:31] <techgeek40> norv: here you go
[04:31] <techgeek40> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54286/
[04:31] <danielax> gmcastil: umm - apt-cache?
[04:31] <gmcastil> David37: the nvidia instructions are pretty good...and i'm sure there are a ton of faqs
[04:31] <Gman99999> seacat i got a long list when used the locate rt2570
[04:32] <gmcastil> danielax: dpkg -S <filename> is different
[04:32] <danielax> techgeek40: I have exactly the same pcmcia ethernet card
[04:32] <techgeek40> danielax: i'm not finding a winedebug file anywhere
[04:32] <nickrud> Gman99999: locate rt2570 | grep /lib/modules , that will skip all the stuff in the directory you compiled it in
[04:33] <zachalink> how do I connect to a leopard mac using samba???
[04:33] <techgeek40> danielax: and your's is working
[04:33] <zachalink> my dad can connect to mine but I can't figure out how to connect to his imac
[04:33] <norv> techgeek40: okay, it detects the ethernet controller and the broadcom wireless
[04:33] <gmcastil> danielax: i think you're referring to apt-file
[04:33] <seacat> Gman99999,  locate rt2570 |grep lib
[04:33] <techgeek40> norv: but ----???
[04:33] <Gman99999> nickrud this seems to be the only place its installed /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2570.ko
[04:34] <tamnguyen> hi
[04:34] <Gman99999> seacat this is the only place its installed /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2570.ko
[04:34] <tamnguyen> antbody here?
[04:34] <zachalink> so... how do I?
[04:34] <nickrud> Gman99999: if that's the only one, that's the one to delete then.
[04:34] <Gman99999> nickrud ok so what command would i type in to delete it?
[04:34] <tamnguyen> something wrong here
[04:34] <nickrud> norv: 03:xx.x implies pcmcia ?
[04:35] <tamnguyen> can i help me
[04:35] <nickrud> Gman99999: sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2570.ko
[04:35] <seacat> Gman99999, sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2570.ko
[04:35] <zachalink> after you're done helping him, can you help me nickrud?
[04:35] <norv> nickrud: I don't know, but it really doesn't matter, does it?
[04:36] <danielax_> dodgy net connection *grr*
[04:36] <nickrud> norv: no, but someday I may see that, would be nice to know for next time
[04:36] <techgeek40> HOLY COW: I type  WINEDEBUG=+all,-relay ecl.exe and the terminal window looked like it was receiving stuff from mars
[04:36] <Gman99999> nickrud ok its done
[04:36] <russ> tamnguyen by all means!
[04:36] <nickrud> zachalink: possibly
[04:36] <Gman99999> seacat ok its done
[04:36] <zachalink> =)
[04:36] <norv> nickrud: it's probably system dependent, may be true for all
[04:36] <Gman99999> seacat do you know a good guide to installing a proper rt2570 driver?
[04:36] <danielax_> techgeek40: yeah. it does that
[04:37] <Gman99999> nickrud do you know a good guide to installing a proper rt2570 driver?
[04:37] <danielax_> can you pastebin it?
[04:37] <nickrud> zachalink: I'm batting only so so tonight and have a shallow but narrow knowledge base I work from :)
[04:37] <nickrud> Gman99999: no, sorry
[04:37] <techgeek40> danielax: where would I find the debug report?
[04:37] <Carbonflux> did the signal from mars seem intelligent techgeek40 ? ;)
[04:37] <seacat> Gman99999, Not really, would just need to search for one.  But first off, is that the correct module?
[04:37] <norv> techgeek40: the only way to get your networking is use ndiswrapper, it appears, because they only have a windows driver for it
[04:37] <techgeek40> Carbonflux: yeap - i think I understood some of it too :>
[04:37] <danielax_> techgeek40: the signal from mars was the debug report
[04:37] <Carbonflux> :)
[04:37] <techgeek40> LOL
[04:38] <danielax_> techgeek40: I'm using the same card on ndiswrapper atm :)
[04:38] <russ> yeah techgeek40, how can you be sure it's not from uranus?
[04:38] <techgeek40> danielax: where would I find the debug report that the  WINEDEBUG=+all,-relay wine program_name spit out?
[04:38] <Alyxander> or really stupid question, How do i get the windows that are not in focus to become transparent?
[04:38] <techgeek40> russ: i can't
[04:38] <Gman99999> seacat well Ive got a linksys wusb54g v4 and it says its chipset is an rt2570
[04:38] <techgeek40> danielax: how'd you get it working?
[04:38] <Carbonflux> focus trail plugin in compiz-fusion Alyxander
[04:38] <techgeek40> <--would love for his nic card to work -
[04:38] <gmcastil> Settings > Window Manager Tweaks
[04:38] <Gman99999> seacat when i loaded ubuntu it preinstalled rt2500 but that didnt work
[04:38] <danielax_> techgeek40: to save the report, run WINEDEBUG....blah 2>&1 > debugreport
[04:38] <Alyxander> thank you Carbonflux
[04:38] <gmcastil> Alyxander: Setttings > Window manage Tweaks
[04:38] <nickrud> Gman99999: but this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[04:38] <lee_> hey nikrud, just wanted to say hi
[04:38] <Carbonflux> ah or that
[04:39] <seacat> Gman99999, Are you on a fully updated Ubuntu 7.10 system.
[04:39] <nickrud> zachalink: what's up?
[04:39] <nickrud> lee_: hi.
[04:39] <gmcastil> Alyxander: you'll need to click the Compositor tab and then enable transparencies
[04:39] <VoiceOfApollo> hello
[04:39] <nickrud> lee_: things working well then, eh?
[04:39] <Gman99999> seacat yes
[04:39] <seacat> Gman99999, You did all updates?
[04:39] <lee_> been a while, i can't use ubuntu, but i havnt fergotton the ones that helped me lol
[04:39] <Gman99999> seacat I installed it from a gutsy cd a few months ago
[04:39] <gmcastil> Alyxander: you also have to have hardware acceleration too
[04:39] <Gman99999> seacat yes all of them
[04:39] <lee_> I updated ubuntu and it broke
[04:39] <zachalink> well I would like to connect to a leopard imac using ubuntu 7.10
[04:40] <zachalink> and samba
[04:40] <lee_> so i went to another distro
[04:40] <zachalink> the problem is, the mac can connect to me, but not vice versa
[04:40] <seacat> Gman99999,  You installed what from Gusty CD?
[04:40] <techgeek40> danielax: and when it's done - where does the "file" for the bugreport get saved? so I can paste it
[04:40] <danielax_> techgeek40: you can install the ndiswrapper driver it with from the terminal - you need the original windows driver cd
[04:40] <Gman99999> seacat ubuntu?
[04:40] <lee_> nickrud hehee I een learning alot
[04:40] <techgeek40> danielax: did that - ndiswrapper -
[04:40] <oxeimon> so, I've got a t61p thinkpad, running gutsy, and for some reason suspend *sometimes* doesn't work. Any ideas?
[04:40] <nickrud> zachalink: ah, one of those things I don't know much about at all, samba is
[04:40] <norv> zachalink: okay, so your server is set up properly, that's good
[04:40] <techgeek40> I get the msg that the inf file has already been installed
[04:40] <danielax_> lee_: can you be more descriptive than "it broke"?
[04:40] <zachalink> ya, I'm just having problems c onnecting with the mac
[04:41] <norv> zachalink: is the mac running a samba server?
[04:41] <nickrud> lee_: cool, any distro is better than no distro
[04:41] <lee_> let see, I down loaded  the up grade  and was left with a screen taht had nothing on it
[04:41] <zachalink> I thought mac runs it by default. any idea on how to configure it on mac?
[04:41] <apparle> Actually I am a kubuntu user but right now I am installing a Gnome software so I thought I would ask here. 'libbonobo2-common' and 'libbonobo2-0' both depend on each other what should I do ??
[04:41] <seacat> Gman99999, Is this a USB device?
[04:41] <Gman99999> seacat yes it is
[04:41] <danielax_> techgeek40: debugreport
[04:41] <lee_> with something of an error message by the baoat load saying failed to fetch
[04:42] <nickrud> apparle: install them both with the same apt-get command
[04:42] <lee_> also found out that my intell chip was considered proietary
[04:42] <gmcastil> apparle: let the package manager sort out the dependencies fo ryou
[04:42] <seacat> Gman99999, Tell me again what the make and model is?  Linksys?
[04:42] <techgeek40> danielax: okay - remember --- i don't have all the brains here today (LONG day with VERRY brain damaged customeers) do I type debugreport or is it a log file some where? if a file - where????? or how do I get to it?
[04:42] <Gibb> I just got xubuntu installed - how do I get the cool toolbar that ubuntu has? xubuntu is just like a desktop with some icons on it
[04:42] <danielax_> techgeek40: ndiswrapper -i /your/driver/here?
[04:43] <Gman99999> seacat linksys wusb54g version 4
[04:43] <techgeek40> danielax: did that - (ndiswrapper
[04:43] <norv> zachalink: might want to ask on #macosx, I don't really know how
[04:43] <danielax_> techgeek40: it's in the directory you ran the program from, it's a plan text file
[04:43] <regulate> my media keys stopped working , what gives?
[04:43] <danielax_> techgeek40: what did ndiswrapper say?
[04:43] <apparle> nickrud: and gmcastil: I donot have net at home and hence I download packages on an XP box and take them home through pendrive?? Now what should I do
[04:43] <Gman99999> seacat Ive tried it on ndiswrapper but it wont join networks that are encrypted
[04:43] <Gman99999> seacat im guessing its got a bad ndiswrapper driver
[04:44] <techgeek40> that it was already installed - tried both xp and 2000 inf files
[04:44] <norv> Gibb: xubuntu is also supposed to have a toolbar and doesn't look any different, that is the default desktop Xfce
[04:44] <nickrud> apparle: put all the packages you downloaded into one directory with nothing else in it, then   sudo dpkg -i *
[04:44] <oxeimon> so I'm running gutsy on my t61p, and even after editing my /etc/acpi-support, I still can't get suspend to work all the time. Sometimes it resumes correctly, but other times I just get a blank screen. Any ideas?
[04:44] <gmcastil> apparle: uh.......read the man pages and figure out the right options for apt-get to tell you what packages need to be installed
[04:44] <danielax_> techgeek40: ah. well i dunno then :(
[04:44] <seacat> Gman99999, Yes, ok.  I plugged one into my Laptop last month and it worked fine.  A friend of mine had it at our local LUG.  It worked just fine. I did not download anything, It just worked.
[04:44] <gmcastil> apparle: or...take your box to work or something
[04:44] <techgeek40> danielax: no debug report in there :<
[04:44] <Tensop> hmm, come across an interesting issue with ALSA + hda-intel
[04:45] <danielax_> hmm
[04:45] <norv> Gman99999: lots of ndiswrappered driveres have no ability to handle encryption, some can't do WAP, some can't even do WEP
[04:45] <Tensop> ive compiled the 1.0.16rc2 into alpha3 using snapshots of the latest libs+utils off the suse FTP
[04:45] <nickrud> apparle: and for the future, look into  apt-zip , it's designed to help with that
[04:45] <Tensop> firing up alsasound reports no soundcard detected, but sound is working
[04:45] <Gman99999> seacat ok I plugged it in too and well it didnt work I dont know why
[04:45] <nickrud> !hardy | Tensop
[04:45] <ubotu> Tensop: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:45] <Gman99999> seacat no wait it did work my bad
[04:45] <seacat> Gman99999, And a week later, I installed drivers for it on another friend's Slackware Laptop and that one worked ok too.
[04:45] <Gibb> norv: uh oh. I dont have the toolbar - is there a trick to accessing it?
[04:45] <Gman99999> seacat but then I loaded the other driver stopped working
[04:46] <Tensop> hehe, the issue would still apply to gutsy gibon release ;)
[04:46] <Gman99999> seacat how do i get the original driver for it to work again?
[04:46] <danielax_> techgeek40: so from the terminal, you ran wine, then type ls
[04:46] <seacat> Gman99999, Well, don't load another driver when it's already working...
[04:46] <apparle> nickrud: This is a differentt query. I f I have 2 packages with 1 depending on other in a folder and I use 'sudo dpkg -i *' will the dependencies get resolved
[04:46] <norv> Gibb: can you start terminal?
[04:46] <danielax_> techgeek40: you should see debugreport listed
[04:46] <seacat> Gman99999, sudo apt-get install rt2570
[04:46] <techgeek40> danielax: mmm no - I used the "explorer" window and just went to the folder that the exe is in and doubled clicked
[04:46] <danielax_> ah.
[04:46] <techgeek40> <---bows head - that's the wrong way to do it, ain't it :<
[04:47] <danielax_> well you won't get a debug report that way
[04:47] <seacat> Gman99999, Or   sudo apt-get install rt2570*
[04:47] <Gibb> norv: I only have icons on the desktop and nothing else - my two hdds, a floppy, the trash can, file system, examples, and install
[04:47] <gmcastil> techgeek40: there are more things than i can count wrong with that
[04:47] <danielax_> ok, so go to Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[04:47] <norv> apparle: dpkg has about as much dependency resolution as pkg_add in slackware/etc
[04:47] <techgeek40> gmcastil: me too
[04:47] <gmcastil> :)
[04:47] <nickrud> apparle: yes, dpkg will handle that fine. The * matches all files in that directory. If you have other ones, you can do  sudo dpkg -i  <deb1> <deb2>  by name
[04:47] <techgeek40> terminal open
[04:47] <danielax_> ok.
[04:47] <norv> nickrud: apparle: sorry, thought it couldn't
[04:47] <Gman99999> seacat yea I shouldnt mess with those, Ive loaded those before too
[04:48] <danielax_> now, type cd path/to/where/your/program/is
[04:48] <norv> last thing I installed failed due to missing dependencies even though it was in aptitude.. that's a bit different
[04:48] <zachalink> norv: yes, it's running on a samba server
[04:48] <Gman99999> seacat I'll try the original driver and see if things work
[04:48] <apparle> norv: I am new to linux and don't know anything about Slackware
[04:48] <ePax> I'm getting message in Vbox that usb device is not found or not installed on this system. Do i need to add my account to some group or? i'm allready in vbousers group. I read that i might have to create on group called usbusers or something?
[04:48] <nickrud> norv: yeah, a bit different. I'm impressed that apparle got all the dependencies first try :)
[04:48] <Tygir> does anyone know why i would get a X Window system error on cheese?
[04:48] <norv> zachalink: any particular error message when you try to connect?
[04:49] <apparle> nickrud: I cannot use apt-zip as the other box has WinXP on it.
[04:49] <gmcastil> can someone explain how apt-get manages GPG keys for different repositories?
[04:49] <zachalink> well, no, but the thing is: the mac network doesn't show up in "Networks"
[04:49] <Tygir> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[04:49] <danielax_> techgeek40: how's that going?
[04:49] <Tygir>   (Details: serial 41 error_code 11 request_code 140 minor_code 19)
[04:49] <zachalink> *"Network"
[04:49] <techgeek40> I'm there
[04:49] <seacat> Tygir, Not sure, but most of the errors I get just show up on the screen.
[04:49] <ePax> orka
[04:49] <zachalink> Only what's called a "Windows Network".
[04:50] <apparle> nickrud: I get all the dependencies as I have made a list of what all is installed on my pc and compare it while downloading dependencies
[04:50] <danielax_> techgeek40: so if you type ls<enter>, do you see your program listed?
[04:50] <yanger> egads! i have a partition in jfs format, somehow it crashed just a moment ago, and now all my files are missing.. did a fsck and now i have files in lost+found ... is there an order to how they are thrown into the lost and found?
[04:50] <gmcastil> apparle: wow...thats crazy
[04:50] <techgeek40> danielax: wwell, I do dir - but yes - I see the program(s)
[04:50] <norv> Gibb: very likely xfce4 stuff just outright didn't install, or there was something wrong during installation. can't suggest reinstalling really, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was more critical stuff missing
[04:50] <danielax_> ok
[04:51] <danielax_> so now type the WINEDEBUG cmd above, and hit enter
[04:51] <nickrud> apparle: apt-zip creates a script that uses wget to download the files; easily translated to a msdos script
[04:51] <techgeek40> <---did as danielax asked - did ls (I know that one too - but dir is old hate holdover :>)
[04:51] <Tygir> seacat: the program genius!
[04:51] <seacat> Gman99999, Did you ever check to see if that driver was being loaded in the first place?  lsmod |grep rt2570
[04:51] <zachalink> norv: I have a problem with the mac network showing up in "Network", no error messages though.
[04:51] <Gibb> norv: its booting off the cd if that makes any difference
[04:51] <techgeek40> zachalink: you got bootcamp running?
[04:51] <zachalink> norv:  Is there a way to manually connect to the mac network?
[04:51] <norv> Gibb: oh, slightly better but I wouldn't do an install off of that cd..
[04:51] <apparle> gmcastil: When all odds are against you, then to get things done you have to becomne crazy
[04:52] <zachalink> techgeek40: No, they're two seperate computers running.
[04:52] <Gibb> oh no. it was my last blank
[04:52] <zachalink> One is a linux box and one is an iMac.
[04:52] <techgeek40> zachalink: otay - :>
[04:52] <vecna> hi how do I report a Bug with BOINC on Hardy Heron?
[04:52] <russ> Is anyone aware of a linux program that can convert an mp3 to apple aac format?
[04:52] <Gman99999> seacat that command does nothing
[04:52] <norv> zachalink: you can try connecting with smbclient, if you know the mac's ip address
[04:52] <apparle> nickrud: Could you come oftopic and please explain it in more detail as I am new user
[04:52] <nickrud> vecna: bugs.launchpad.net . You should discuss it on #ubuntu+1 first though
[04:52] <seacat> Gman99999, Then the module was not loading and that is the problem.
[04:52] <danielax_> techgeek40: so after you run wine (through command line, like i said), you can type gedit debugreport &<enter>,
[04:53] <nickrud> apparle: it's been a few years since I used it, but sure
[04:53] <zachalink> norv: And how exactly would I do that?
[04:53] <Gman99999> seacat hmmmm I know the rt2500usb module was loading
[04:53] <danielax_> russ: yess, iTunes. Oh sorry, did you want linux software? sorry :)
[04:53] <hsystemxX> .
[04:53] <seacat> Gman99999,  sudo insmod rt2570
[04:53] <Gman99999> seacat which did bother me
[04:53] <Gman99999> seacat I got this for an output insmod: can't read 'rt2570': No such file or directory
[04:53] <seacat> Gman99999, or:  sudo modprobe rt2570
[04:54] <russ> danielax_ yeah, some free software to convert to a non-free format - maybe an oxymoron
[04:54] <techgeek40> danielax: did I miss something - I'm not even sure how run the ecl.exe (that' the program) via a termial for wine - I'm suppose to run that or the WINEDEBUG stuff first?
[04:54] <VoiceOfApollo> is there a common reason that I wouldn't be able to chat on other networks?
[04:54] <seacat> Gman99999, You deleted the object file?
[04:54] <Gman99999> seacat says it cant find the module
[04:54] <danielax_> russ: yeah - just joking with you
[04:54] <Gman99999> seacat yes its the bad one we uninstalled remeber?
[04:54] <Flughafen> can anyone recommend an mp3 player that supports .ogg?
[04:54] <russ> danielax_ i understand iTunes will run using wine though
[04:54] <nemilar> Flughafen: they pretty much all do
[04:54] <seacat> Gman99999, You deleted rt2570 ?
[04:54] <wims> how do i change compiz theme ?
[04:54] <seacat> Gman99999, You deleted rt2570.k0 ?
[04:54] <nemilar> Flughafen: as long as you have the libraries instealled
[04:55] <VoiceOfApollo> mp3 player for linux?
[04:55] <Flughafen> nemilar, ipod doesnt
[04:55] <seacat> Gman99999, You deleted rt2570.ko ?
[04:55] <Gman99999> seacat yes that's the one
[04:55] <danielax_> techgeek40: umm - so at terminal, type WINEDEBUG=+all,-relay wine <program_name> 2>&1 > debugreport<enter>
[04:55] <hsystemxX> .ogg?  XMMS.  sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:55] <nemilar> Flughafen: oh, sorry - I thought you meant software, haha
[04:55] <danielax_> russ: try to avoid that :)
[04:55] <Flughafen> haha, sorry, i mean portable mp3 player
[04:55] <apparle> nickrud: Please explain it as I am becoming crazy doing all this >>[ATI graphic card], [sound card not working with ALSA], [lastly its very difficult to install simple softwares
[04:55] <seacat> That is why it's not loading, or trying to load, because you have deleted it.
[04:55] <russ> danielax_ my feelings exactly
[04:55] <crdlb> wims: compiz itself doesn't have any themes, it has decorators which have their own theming support
[04:55] <wims> !compiz < wims
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz < wims - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <zachalink> norv: can you tell me how to use that smbclient?
[04:55] <nemilar> Flughafen: you can find a list of them on the web
[04:55] <Gman99999> seacat Ive got the good one to re-install if i want to
[04:55] <wims> !compiz | wims
[04:55] <nemilar> Flughafen: cross-reference that with reviews on cnet or somewhere
[04:55] <norv> zachalink: looking up the man page as I no longer ever touch samba
[04:56] <techgeek40> it's running it's geekspeak LOL
[04:56] <Flughafen> nemilar, im reading some reviews but im just seeing if anyone here uses a non apple one that supports .ogg
[04:56] <seacat> Gman99999, Ok, so install it and it should load up and work for you.
[04:56] <crdlb> wims: if you're using gtk-windoew-decorator, then it uses your metacity theme; if you use emerald, then it uses the emerald theme
[04:56] <danielax_> wims: you can also do /msg ubotu compiz
[04:56] <nickrud> apparle: the bottom line for ubuntu is you really need internet for it to be useful
[04:56] <xGeek> huh
[04:56] <cbquick> If i have basic quetions about linux and c programming where should i go?
[04:56] <gmcastil> apt-key
[04:56] <apparle> nickrud: But i want to make it usable without internet
[04:56] <gmcastil> ...
[04:56] <nickrud> cbquick: #linux and ##c
[04:57] <gmcastil> apparle: you can't - go home - go to sleep
[04:57] <danielax_> cbquick: possibly google too
[04:57] <Gman99999> seacat ok, its funny though that even when i did load it, that module would never load at startup, this other module called rt2500usb would load up and when i tried to unload it it would freeze and cause all sorts of problems
[04:57] <hsystemxX> Flughafen, recommend you to buy an ipod, and install in the ipod "iPOD Linux" "http://ipodlinux.org/"
[04:57] <nickrud> apparle: get it to the net, install the stuff you want, then disconnect
[04:57] <wweasel> I'm having trouble with my rsync include/exclude statements. Any rsync guru who can spare a minute to help me figure out why I'm not managing to exclude a folder and include one of its subfolders?
[04:57] <danielax_> apparle: you can use it, you just have a hard time installing new programs
[04:57] <cbquick> thanks, tried google
[04:57] <Carbonflux> has anyone here used wine from a XP ( NTFS ) partition ?
[04:57] <Flughafen> hsystemxX, ive had many ipods and i kinda wanna try something different for a while
[04:57] <danielax_> cbquick: than nickrud's advice :)
[04:57] <Gman99999> seacat I could never get rid of this rt2500usb module
[04:57] <norv> zachalink: okay, smbclient //SERVER/share
[04:57] <russ> cbquick an oldie but goodie book is "the unix programming environment" by kernighan and pike
[04:58] <hsystemxX> or try ROCKBOX on those ipod (Y)
[04:58] <norv> zachalink: where SERVER is the mac's NETBios name and share is the shared dir
[04:58] <seacat> Gman99999, Well, I wonder what was causing your computer to freeze ....?
[04:58] <Gman99999> seacat trying to rmmod the rt2500 one
[04:58] <nickrud> russ: kernigan and richie , I learned from the first edition :)
[04:58] <Flughafen> hsystemxX, ive tried rockbox, and liked it
[04:58] <apparle> nickrud: Immpossible as it is a not a laptop and moreover I don't have enough permissions at home  to move the box as I am young (17)
[04:58] <danielax_> Carbonflux: I've tried to compile it off an XP partiton - it doesn't work (symlinks)
[04:59] <Gman99999> seacat my network manager likes to freeze alot
[04:59] <zachalink> where do I type that in? terminal?
[04:59] <norv> zachalink: btw, can you access any other systems via samba through your Ubuntu box?
[04:59] <Flughafen> hsystemxX, a few days after installing it my ipod died though
[04:59] <cbquick> thank you all
[04:59] <Gman99999> seacat and has been very buggy
[04:59] <Flughafen> so i dont think im gonna mess with the firmware this time
[04:59] <zachalink> not sure, the mac is the oly other system
[04:59] <zachalink> *only
[04:59] <russ> nikrud kernighan is a coauthor of many interesting books I had K&R too
[04:59] <nickrud> apparle: then you're kinda stuck, really. Linux is fundamentally a networked os
[04:59] <gmcastil> K&R...yeah...kinda important
[04:59] <seacat> Gman99999, What is your kernel version?     uname -a
[04:59] <techgeek40> daniellax: well, the terminal window goes batty - but hangs at the end - I have to type exit but it doesn't save the report
[04:59] <danielax_> techgeek40: how's it going?
[04:59] <zachalink> norv: but do I type that in terminal?
[04:59] <norv> zachalink: yes
[05:00] <apparle> gmcastil: If you can't help at least donot discourage people  ;)
[05:00] <Gman99999> seacat Linux unknown 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:00] <norv> zachalink: and the linux server can be thought of as another system... if THAT doesn't appear locally something's really up
[05:00] <danielax_> can you just copy-paste the stuff on terminal to pastebin?
[05:00] <gmcastil> apparle: you're asking for something that isn't practical
[05:00] <gmcastil> apparle: not being discouraging...just stating the obvious truth
[05:01] <zachalink> what does the mac's netbios name mean? the ip address?
[05:01] <techgeek40> yeah - the last dozen or so lines - but I'll get ya what I can - maybe the "end" section will show you what you need
[05:01] <gmcastil> apparle: get a job and a network connection
[05:01] <nickrud> apparle: I do know what you're talking about, I lived at the bottom of a 3k pipe for over a year, it was excruciating even with that
[05:01] <danielax_> apparle: it also depends on what you want to do. if you just want to do default stuff, you can just install off the cd without updates
[05:01] <nickrud> gmcastil: ohhh, that was harsh
[05:01] <techgeek40> !paste
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:01] <danielax_> apparle: on a 56k modem, that was what Idid
[05:01] <gmcastil> nickrud: i'm a little buzzed...and a lot tired of noob questions :) sorry
[05:01] <danielax_> techgeek40: sounds good :)
[05:02] <norv> zachalink: it could be the ip address, and I think that IP address will invariably work. Whatever is the case, if the systems aren't on the same subnet... well that's ruled out
[05:02] <nickrud> gmcastil: true, but harsh more correctly
[05:02] <techgeek40> danielax: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54287/
[05:02] <nickrud> 'true but harsh' that is
[05:02] <kaz1nsky> my monitor loses signal after being in tty1-6 for a little bit, and then i cant switch back to tty7 any ideas?
[05:02] <apparle> gmcastil: I am practically using it for 6 months and will keep using it whatever may be the odds. Because the other option is Windows and it s***s
[05:02] <gmcastil> nickrud: i know....
[05:02] <wweasel> Can someone who understands rsync exclude/include statements help me fix the fact that this does not work (I think you'll see my intent):  --exclude="/media/*/" --include="/media/data"
[05:02] <gmcastil> wweasel: man rsync
[05:02] <gmcastil> for god's sakes people use the freaking man pages!!!
[05:03] <nickrud> !rtfm
[05:03] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:03] <wweasel> gmcastil: I've read the relevant man page. It's more helpful than you, but not helpful enouhg.
[05:03] <WGGMk> curious as to what jfgi is
[05:03] <danielax_> techgeek40: hmm. not sure - I can see it's crashing though :|
[05:04] <danielax_> WGGMk: just f google it
[05:04] <wweasel> WGGMk: just f***** google it
[05:04] <hsystemxX> haha nice answer wweasel
[05:04] <danielax_> now you know :)
[05:04] <WGGMk> thnx, havent seen that one
[05:04] <danielax_> techgeek40: does it use stuff like COM objects?
[05:04] <edju> Installed amd64 kubuntu.  Anything special to install firefox?
[05:05] <wweasel> So does anyone here know how to exclude a folder and include one of its subfolders in rsync?
[05:05] <hsystemxX> erm edju, have you tried sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:05] <hsystemxX> ?
[05:05] <nickrud> gmcastil: lol, take a break, spend some time on #debian and come back to the gentler side :)
[05:05] <norv> edju: make sure to get the 32-bit firefox if you care about flash and such plugins working
[05:05] <apparle> gmcastil: It seems that kubuntu people are more helping bye
[05:06] <techgeek40> danielax: yea - it uses comports and usb ports
[05:06] <danielax_> techgeek40: ah
[05:06] <techgeek40> BUT they are not brought into play unless the customer starts what we call a real time session for the writers
[05:06] <wweasel> apparle: Anyone is more helpful than gmcastil at the moment. Take my word for it, jerks like him are fairly rare on this channel. You generally find some pretty helpful people.
[05:06] <edju> norv, Thanks, that's what I needed to know.
[05:06] <norv> gmcastil: it's surprising Kubuntu actually works out of the box more often.. at least for every system I've tried it on
[05:06] <samad> hello all, i just installed Ubuntu 7.10 running an ATI Radeon x600 with the Proprietary fglrx driver.  When I go into appearances -> visual effects and choose anything but 'none' and an error tells me that "The Composite Extension is not available"  anyone have any ideas how i can fix that?
[05:06] <techgeek40> Otherwise the comports just sit there wihtout being called
[05:06] <danielax_> might i suggest trying an alternative to wine.
[05:07] <apparle> nickrud: I am extremely thankful for your help. I will look into apt-zip thing. Thanks
[05:07] <apparle> wweasel:  :D
[05:07] <norv> danielax_: there isn't one except for true virtualization and actually running windows inside
[05:07] <techgeek40> danielax: here is what the software is for - you know the people that sit with their little writers in court - taking down what the lawyers, judges and witnesses say?
[05:07] <kaz1nsky> anyone know why my monitor loses its signal in tty1-6?
[05:07] <WGGMk> Im haveing trouble starting DansGuardian on my server (Gutsy amd64).. when using "sudo /etc/init.d/dansguardian start" it just hangs forever.. Another question, a .pid file? is this process id? if so, does this only exist when its running
[05:07] <apparle> Anybody knows a GUI frontend for Mencoder
[05:08] <danielax_> techgeek40: hmm
[05:08] <norv> techgeek40: court reporters, yes
[05:08] <danielax_> techgeek40: there's a vertical market for you
[05:08] <danielax_> techgeek40: if it's commercial, codeweavers might be the best bet
[05:08] <nickrud> apparle: wweasel gmcastil has been very helpful to many already. Everyone has their bad moments
[05:08] <danielax_> techgeek40: it's way way beyond my expertese :)
[05:08] <danielax_> norv: yeah - you're right
[05:08] <gmcastil> nickrud: thanks....i'm drunk right now
[05:09] <norv> danielax_: aren't codeweavers and cedega just forks of the old BSD Wine?
[05:09] <apparle> nickrud: We are joking
[05:09] <techgeek40> Okay - the software takes what they write (which is phonetics - like fplt would mean a period) and would translate that into english words - now the "real time" is ONLY used if a write is connected and writing - other wise the ports are NEVER brought into play
[05:09] <Carbonflux> Has anyone tried running Wine off a XP drive in 7.10? with NTFS write working etc.
[05:09] <wweasel> nickrud: Alright, that's fair. Still...well, i was about to say that he must be drunk jokingly, but apparently he is :P
[05:09] <lufis> I'm trying to set up sshd on ubuntu to serve putty on windows on a remote box. Can someone walk me thru creating crypto keys, etc.?
[05:09] <techgeek40> yeah we get a TON asking if linux would be best to use - and my view -  yes - it's FAR more stable than windows
[05:10] <nickrud> gmcastil: been there, done that, been embarrassed. Took a year off. Don't do the same :)
[05:10] <gmcastil> and...u'll ignore the mena things someone said earlier...i've had 1/2 a bottle of wine in the past hour
[05:10] <apparle> gmcastil: I am joking don't take it seriously. I know you people are helpful
[05:10] <danielax_> norv: codewavers does commercial support/development for wine. It seems to get code integrated into the main wine frequently
[05:10] <techgeek40> Carbon: I did - not a pretty site lol
[05:10] <danielax_> anyway, all, I'm off to eat lunch
[05:10] <groovingsoul>  ¿anyone knows what to do on singularity:endgame? they allways catch me, even if i destroy my servers, stop researching, or even if i dont build anything
[05:10] <wweasel> oh god...my only issue with rsync include/exclude was order of statements.
[05:10] <danielax_> at 10 past 2, anyway :)
[05:10] <gmcastil> apparle: i've been using linux as an admin and user for about 5 years now...just siwtched to ubuntu and this is the first time i've been on these forums
[05:10] <norv> techgeek40: sounds like something that basic GNU userland can do
[05:10] <gmcastil> apparle: i don't mind helping newbies...i was one once too
[05:10] <techgeek40> I take it the codeweavrs is like wine???? and built for ubuntu/linux?
[05:11] <techgeek40> GNU??????
[05:11] <danielax_> cya all
[05:11] <naffy-duck> oh good gmcastil, u might help me then
[05:11] <techgeek40> Take care daniel - thanks for the help
[05:11] <apparle> gmcastil: Don't worry, I will not remain a newbie for long
[05:11] <gmcastil> apparle: but, you'll probably get an earful every now and then - i have high standards
[05:11] <Jangari> can someone help me modify a brief bash script so as to word on a specified directory rather than the working directory?
[05:11] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: yes?
[05:11] <Jangari> work*
[05:11] <norv> techgeek40: err, what you described is something like text replacement, which looks like regexps could do the job
[05:11] <pawsmacker> is there a dump of ubotu i can download and add to my own supybot?
[05:12] <nickrud> techgeek40: codeweavers is for any linux
[05:12] <wweasel> gmcastil: Telling them to rtfm in a few more words isn't going to help them much. Having been around linux for a few years it didn't bother me too much. but I can imagine i wouldn't appreciate it if I were new to this
[05:12] <naffy-duck> gmcastil, can i run vista and ubuntu from one disk on my pressario laptop?
[05:12] <gmcastil> wweasel: ...and i'm buzzed as shit
[05:12] <techgeek40> norv: for simplistic reasons - yea  text replacement on the lowest level - but trust me - NOT on the upper levels -
[05:12] <wweasel> gmcastil: Fair enough :)
[05:12] <southroad>  有说中文的马
[05:12] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: yeah..as long as you have at least one free partition
[05:12] <hsystemxX> naffy-duck, Yes.
[05:12] <nickrud> !cn | southroad
[05:12] <ubotu> southroad: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[05:12] <norv> techgeek40: upper levels?
[05:12] <techgeek40> nickrud: I'll read up on it - I've saved the chat window so I can look into it
[05:13] <southroad> THX
[05:13] <techgeek40> norv: yeah - it also uses audio - video and voice recognition
[05:13] <nickrud> techgeek40: oriented towards office stuff, like cedega is oriented towards games
[05:13] <jazzles> hello there
[05:13] <naffy-duck> gmcastil k, so i must create one partition soley for ubuntu
[05:13] <jazzles> is there some sort of problem with jackd in the gutsy repos?
[05:13] <techgeek40> norv: it is replacing text - but it's a lot more indepth than that
[05:13] <hsystemxX> naffy-duck, divide your disk in 2 partitions, then install vista in 1 partition, and ubuntu in the other. (easiest way).
[05:13] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: actually, at least 2
[05:13] <techgeek40> nickrud: I'll have to check out cedega too - I have a few windows games I'd like to play on here
[05:13] <naffy-duck> gmcastil ??
[05:14] <techgeek40> butttt - for now - I have to get it's late and I have work tomorrow
[05:14] <hsystemxX> naffy-duck, divide your disk in 2 partitions, then install vista in 1 partition, and ubuntu in the other. (easiest way).
[05:14] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: you'll need a swap partition and then a filesystem for the OS
[05:14] <techgeek40> you all have a good one and thanks for the help
[05:14] <norv> techgeek40: voice recognition is the more problematic aspect, and I doubt you'd ever find a replacement for that because of the hard cash in the industry
[05:14] <techgeek40> Night all
[05:14] <gmcastil> techgeek40: later
[05:14] <commonlyUNIQU3> anyone here any good at configuring X?  I'm trying to run multiple sessions on multiple monitors, but can't quite get it right...
[05:14] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: do you have free space on your drive?
[05:14] <naffy-duck> gmcastil yes, plenty
[05:15] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: sorry....i meant a free partition
[05:15] <hsystemxX> naffy-duck, delete the entire vista :D hehe.
[05:15] <hsystemxX> joke* sorry.
[05:15] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: hard drives can be divided into several partitions
[05:15] <deahtihs> is there some sort of way i can type in terminal something like 'say woopie'
[05:15] <deahtihs> or just type and it says while i'm typing
[05:15] <deahtihs> and that i can disable when i want
[05:15] <naffy-duck> gmcastil no, no free partition, so this is the scarey part :(
[05:15] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: yeah, you'll need to reinstall windows, then
[05:15] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: i don't know of a reliable way (i'm sure there is one) of resizing an existing NTFS partitoin
[05:16] <levander> Where can I configure how my workspacs work?  Like, if I want four workspaces instead of the default two?  Or, if I just want 1 workspace?
[05:16] <deahtihs> is there a text to speech thing here on ubuntu
[05:16] <hsystemxX> gmcastil, tell him to use partition magic...
[05:16] <naffy-duck> ack, i have a vista home edition restore disk, but vista came installed - do i have a problem?
[05:16] <hsystemxX> it seem that he only read your messages.
[05:16] <gmcastil> levander: right click on the desktop pager thingy in your taskbar
[05:16] <naffy-duck> gmcastil im running an amd64 processor too
[05:16] <apparle> naffy-duck: It's your laptop isn't it?? I f yes then why do you worry about installing windows again
[05:17] <nickrud> !install | naffy-duck this page has some info, you can resize the windows partition during install
[05:17] <ubotu> naffy-duck this page has some info, you can resize the windows partition during install: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:17] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: if you really want to keep vista (not recommended) you'l need to resize the partition using something like partition magic
[05:17] <levander> gmcastil: Thanks, but I was hoping for a few more options.  Like, when I move my mouse off the screen towards another workspace, I was hoping I would switch to that workspace.  I've had that behavior in the past.  Although, I'm not sure if I've had it with GNOME.
[05:18] <gmcastil> levander: i don't think you can do that...there's an option that will let you use the mousewheel over the background to go from one workspace to another
[05:18] <naffy-duck> nickrud k, tks, and a few other questions..
[05:18] <nickrud> levander: install brightside , it can be configured to do that
[05:18] <iNTRONIX> Has someone tested Steam on Ubuntu?
[05:18] <hsystemxX> iNTRONIX, no, but there is some guide at google.
[05:18] <gmcastil> levander: the sort of behavior you're talking about would drive me nuts, though
[05:18] <hsystemxX> about that...
[05:18] <hsystemxX> like installing CSS or half life 2 stuff...
[05:18] <iNTRONIX> ok
[05:18] <levander> nickrud: thanks
[05:19] <iNTRONIX> Yes counter-strike 1.6
[05:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> can anyone point me in the right direction for some support configuring X for dual monitors?
[05:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> I would like to run multiple sessions on multiple monitors...
[05:19] <naffy-duck> nickrud i need to keep vista, and ur basically saying something like QTparted will do the job, is it an easy job?
[05:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> ?
[05:19] <levander> commonlyUNIQU3: Xinerama
[05:19] <gmcastil> commonlyUNIQU3: http://www.google.com/search?q=configure+x.org+for+multiple+monitors&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[05:19] <commonlyUNIQU3> levander- I've already configured my xorg.conf for xinerama
[05:20] <Tensop> guys, this is a bit of an odd one - but i need to modprobe ath_pci after every reboot
[05:20] <apparle> naffy-duck: I don't recommend resizing the partition as it takes a lot of time and moreover it is a NTFS partition. Better go to the dealer and ask him to reinstall Vista with lot of partitions if you don't know much about windows installation
[05:20] <levander> commonlyUNIQU3: Well then, that's not what you want?
[05:20] <Tensop> is there a way to make the modprobe process for ath_pci automatic? :)
[05:20] <gmcastil> commonlyUNIQU3: usually you have to screw around with xorg.conf
[05:20] <commonlyUNIQU3> levander- but I can't figure out how to run separate sessions on each monitor
[05:20] <levander> Tensop: /etc/modules
[05:20] <naffy-duck> apparle is amd64 an ntfs partition?
[05:20] <commonlyUNIQU3> levander- yeah, I don't want the "one big screen" mode
[05:20] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: NTFS is a windows partition
[05:20] <nickrud> naffy-duck: pretty easy, yes. Although you can do the partition shrinking in vista ahead of time. See http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial133.html for some info on that
[05:20] <levander> commonlyUNIQU3: Then you don't have Xinerama setup right yet.  That's the whole thing Xinerama does.
[05:21] <naffy-duck> apparle, also seeing the dealer isn't an option, i bought this laptop in India, and am back in Aus
[05:21] <gmcastil> commonlyUNIQU3: what window manager are you using?
[05:21] <commonlyUNIQU3> levander- maybe I'll have to keep trying
[05:21] <naffy-duck> nickrud k, tks for the url
[05:21] <commonlyUNIQU3> gmcastil- gnome
[05:21] <levander> commonlyUNIQU3: If you were more specific about where you are, maybe someone in here could help you?
[05:21] <Tensop> naffy-duck: prolly not the best move buying a laptop overseas :P
[05:22] <RasterBurner> hey - anyone know how to install WoW on on Ubuntu?
[05:22] <naffy-duck> Tensop, in someways, yeah, but the price was right :)
[05:22] <nickrud> naffy-duck: I try to do all my windows manipulations with microsoft tools, they don't say enough about how they do things for me to trust reverse engineered tools
[05:22] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: i would probably just use the livecd to partition the thing the way i wanted and then reinstall vinsta
[05:22] <seacat> Tensop, Over what seas?   :)
[05:22] <Tensop> the indian ocean? :)
[05:22] <commonlyUNIQU3> levander- where I am?
[05:22] <norv> RasterBurner: you may have luck running it in Wine or a commercial derivative
[05:22] <gmcastil> nickrud: partition magic seems to have a pretty good track record resizing ntfs partitions
[05:22] <pawsmacker> !42 > me
[05:22] <gmcastil> RasterBurner: a lot of people have run wow under wine
[05:22] <pawsmacker> !42 | me
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <RasterBurner> thanks norv! ill check that out
[05:23] <nickrud> gmcastil: heard both ways myself. gparted destroyed my windows install, but since I'd only owned the laptop for about an hour, no harm done
[05:23] <seacat> gmcastil, With any luck?
[05:23] <naffy-duck> gmcastil i can't reinstall vista, was preinstalled, only gave me restore disk
[05:23] <Meglo> Are there any good guides on how to do encrypted LVM on top of a software RAID 1 array with the debian installer on the altinstall CD?
[05:23] <Tensop> hmm, not much activity in the ubuntu+1 channel, so ill pop this question up here
[05:23] <joedj> anyone care to suggest how i would install ubuntu without a bootable optical drive? i have an optical drive, it just isn't bootable
[05:23] <gmcastil> seacat: wow? yes
[05:23] <seacat> gmcastil, My son is a wow player....
[05:23] <Tensop> is heron going to go the 2.6.24 release for the kernel or will it stay with the RC
[05:23] <apparle> naffy-duck: Funny I am an Indian. People in India think of bringing laptops from ther countries, You are the first person I know who has done the reverse
[05:23] <gmcastil> seacat: its a real hack...and slow
[05:23] <gmcastil> seacat: real slow
[05:24] <naffy-duck> Tensop ,??? Indian ocean?
[05:24] <nickrud> !install | joedj one of the links on the installation page will have a method you can use
[05:24] <ubotu> joedj one of the links on the installation page will have a method you can use: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:24] <gmcastil> seacat: tell him to quit playing WoW...he'll thank you later
[05:24] <Tensop> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9429 < WoW info
[05:24] <gmcastil> seacat: that game robbed me of a year of my life
[05:24] <hsystemxX> naffiduck, partition your disk right now, then do a restore with the cds it shiped with your laptop, it is supposed to leave the partition you created intact..
[05:24] <hsystemxX> then try installing ubuntu.
[05:24] <seacat> gmcastil, I did, I did!  :)
[05:24] <Meglo> joedj, look into making a boot floppy
[05:25] <Tensop> naffy-duck: are you in australia or austria :)
[05:25] <gmcastil> hsystemxX: i'd imagine the restore disk will repartition it for him and make it just as it left the factorty
[05:25] <nickrud> seacat: he'll outgrow it (hopefully)
[05:25] <gmcastil> nickrud: i wish i'd never played
[05:25] <DWSR> What's the quickest way to remove xubuntu-desktop and all of it's dependancies?
[05:25] <gmcastil> DWSR: reinstall?
[05:25] <Tensop> it's a big long command
[05:25] <naffy-duck> apparle , namaste, kaiser hain? ;) I needed a laptop there after 6mths
[05:25] <iNTRONIX> Has Someone tested PacSteamT on Ubuntu? It might work if ordinarry Steam works.
[05:25] <naffy-duck> Tensop Aussie
[05:25] <DWSR> gmcastil: No, I was thinking since I don't have physical access to the box in question, I would do it via SSH.
[05:26] <hsystemxX> gmcastil, right, but some restore disk, leave the partitions intact, at least with a ntfs working partition. If there is NO partition, it will re-create them.
[05:26] <Tensop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=576111 < removing xubuntu
[05:26] <DWSR> Tensop: There's no way to get apt to remove a package and all of it's dependancies?
[05:26] <hsystemxX> and sorry for my english , im not american :)
[05:26] <gmcastil> DWSR: there are a LOT of things that are probalby tied together by dependencies...i'd probably not mess with it
[05:26] <nickrud> DWSR: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:26] <gmcastil> ...but apparenty, others have taken the time to do it :)
[05:27] <nickrud> gmcastil: some of the things people do to their ubuntu, there's gotta way to escape kde and xfce
[05:28] <gmcastil> a lot of the libs are still used, though...k3b for example requires the KDE stuff
[05:28] <apparle> naffy-duck: namaste main achha hoon. from which place are you
[05:28] <nickrud> hsystemxX: it worked that way for me, just used the ntfs partition I provided
[05:28] <naffy-duck> apparle im back in Melbourne
[05:28] <DWSR> thanks nickrud.
[05:28] <DWSR> gmcastil: I'm going for SSH only.
[05:28] <DWSR> I don't care about anything graphical or gnome or X.
[05:29] <ivanhoe> hello evrybody
[05:29] <naffy-duck> apparle which country r u in?
[05:29] <ivanhoe> how can i download from megaupload
[05:29] <ivanhoe> in ubuntu
[05:29] <Tensop> hmm, ive got a heap of "pid: xxxx comm: modprobe tainted: p xxxxxx" in /var/log/messages - ignorable?
[05:29] <bazhang> ivanhoe: download what
[05:29] <timandtom> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 from CD that I know works onto an older computer. When I go to boot Ubuntu and so I can install it, after the initial loading screen, it just goes black, and stays like that for a while. Is it just really slow, or is there a problem?
[05:29] <gmcastil> DWSR: well, then i'd probably just pick a distro that let me be more selective in what i installed - centOS comes to mind
[05:29] <ivanhoe> download  files from megaupload
[05:30] <bazhang> heh
[05:30] <gmcastil> timandtom: you'll probably need to modify some of the boot params when the livecd starts
[05:30] <cube> timandtom download the alternative install cd
[05:30] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, i have the answer but
[05:30] <DWSR> gmcastil: I was going to use the Ubuntu server disk, but I figured that I can use the LiveCD to recover Windows systems, so why not just go with that and remove all the crap that I don't need?
[05:30] <ivanhoe> yea
[05:30] <ivanhoe> but?
[05:30] <cube> timandtom and if the computer is really old get xubuntu
[05:30] <hsystemxX> send me a pv, because it is on spanish and i have to traduce it for you.
[05:30] <gmcastil> DWSR: cuz it sounds like its a pain
[05:30] <hsystemxX> pm*
[05:30] <DWSR> gmcastil: There a command written down somewhere to remove all of X?
[05:31] <gmcastil> DWSR: unless there is a way to pick what yo uwant to install
[05:31] <timandtom> gmcastil: How hard would that be? Or would cube's suggestion of downloading the alternative install cd work better?
[05:31] <DWSR> gmcastil: It's not really. It just uninstalled all of Xubuntu in the time between now and when I got the command.
[05:31] <gmcastil> timandtom: fixng the boot params takes a few seconds
[05:31] <nickrud> DWSR: you can just leave all that stuff there, and use rcconf to disable gdm. X won't start
[05:31] <DWSR> nickrud: I want to free up the extra space though.
[05:31] <gmcastil> DWSR: if someone has already figured out the command to run, then thats a differnet story
[05:31] <cube> yeah but if its like a pIII or something shouldn't he use xubuntu?
[05:31] <timandtom> cube: like, 96mb RAM, 8gb hard drive, crappy motherboard and onboard video... I don't know how old really. Small case, purple faceplate, Explora brand, if you happen to know it :P
[05:32] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe my bad, cant receive pm.
[05:32] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe pay attention:
[05:32] <ivanhoe> i cant send
[05:32] <timandtom> gmcastil: Ah :D Any idea what I would need to change though?
[05:32] <cube> anything VIA I would use xubuntu!
[05:32] <ivanhoe> yea
[05:32] <ivanhoe> i put atetion
[05:32] <matt__> i have a question
[05:32] <gmcastil> timandtom: remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options
[05:32] <naffy-duck> gmcastil what is/is there an issue with amd64 bit and ubuntu?
[05:32] <cube> timandtom what kind of CPU is it
[05:32] <gmcastil> timandtom: try that and see how it works
[05:32] <hsystemxX> Download this extension for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[05:33] <nickrud> !ask | matt__
[05:33] <ubotu> matt__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:33] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: there are a few difficulties with running 64-bit - namely the availability of 64-bit binaries from the outside world (namely Flash)
[05:33] <ivanhoe> thanks
[05:33] <norv> timandtom: you won't be running any DE with 96mb
[05:33] <timandtom> cube: Pentium 2 I THINK, but I'll double check
[05:33] <matt__> um i need a vurtal machine but i dont know one
[05:33] <timandtom> gmcastil: How do I do that?
[05:33] <matt__> well i do bu tit did not work right
[05:33] <ATG>  /server irc.7chan.org
[05:33] <ATG> oops
[05:33] <ATG> sorry
[05:33] <ivanhoe> well  i have this extenioo
[05:34] <norv> matt__: VirtualBox
[05:34] <ivanhoe> and dont works
[05:34] <nickrud> matt__: add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server
[05:34] <naffy-duck> gmcastil k, so, inet browsing is affected, anyone know of any other 64-32 bit software issues?
[05:34] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: acrobat reader probably isn't available in 64-bit linux version
[05:34] <hsystemxX> ivanhow then in firefox after you install that add on, you must go to TOOLS->user agent->options->options->user agent->add
[05:34] <timandtom> norv: Meh, well, I figure I'll try it. Worst case, I lose a coupla hours of time I would have spent otherwise on my Gamecube :) If this doesn't work, I'll try a different distro
[05:34] <gmcastil> mmm.....gamecube
[05:34] <cube> timandtom http://xubuntu.org/ get xubuntu but click on a mirror and get the alternative install cd of xubuntu
[05:35] <hsystemxX> ivanhow, then fill the blanks with:
[05:35] <hsystemxX> DESCRIPTION: Internet Explorer 6 + Alexa Toolbar
[05:35] <hsystemxX> USER AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Alexa Toolbar)
[05:35] <hsystemxX> APP NAME : Microsft Internet Explorer
[05:35] <hsystemxX> APP VERSION : 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
[05:35] <hsystemxX> PLATFORM : Win32
[05:35] <FloodBot3> hsystemxX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <gmcastil> timandtom: try editing the boot options first - your problem of having a blank screen after booting is pretty common
[05:35] <DWSR> gmcastil: Does Ubuntu server simply have Ubuntu-base installed?
[05:35] <nickrud> naffy-duck: you don't need adobereader for ubuntu, it has it's own pdf reader
[05:35] <naffy-duck> gmcastil so basically what ur saying is most multimedia 32 bit opensource apps - equiv to what's available on windows?
[05:35] <Flannel> DWSR: Its got a little more than that, but yes, its just the CLI apps
[05:35] <gmcastil> nickrud: i was just saying that if you really wanted the adobe version, you're out of luck
[05:35] <hsystemxX> ivanhow then in firefox after you install that add on, you must go to TOOLS->user agent->options->options->user agent->add
[05:35] <norv> timandtom: oh right, alternate install and make sure not to specify any packages like Xubuntu Desktop. then apt-get install "blackbox" or some such
[05:36] <timandtom> cube: Ah, k, thanks. So xubuntu is basically ubuntu for slow computers? Are there any major differences?
[05:36] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: i'm saying that 64-bit binaries in linux are rare
[05:36] <gmcastil> DWSR: i didn't see one
[05:36] <DWSR> I'm watching my server load drop past 0.2
[05:36] <nickrud> gmcastil: ah, missed that part.
[05:36] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, then fill the blanks like this: DESCRIPTION: Internet Explorer 6 + Alexa Toolbar
[05:36] <naffy-duck> nickrud k, tks for that
[05:36] <ubuntu_> WOW SO MANY PEOPLE ON UBUNTU CHAT
[05:36] <DWSR> I love removing X.
[05:36] <ubuntu_> IM NOW
[05:36] <ubuntu_> NEW
[05:36] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, USER AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Alexa Toolbar)
[05:36] <Flannel> !caps | ubuntu_
[05:36] <ubuntu_> im new
[05:36] <ubotu> ubuntu_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:36] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, APP NAME : Microsft Internet Explorer
[05:36] <ivanhoe> yep
[05:36] <gmcastil> nickrud: sorry, wasn't clear - you can read pdfs, just probably not with adobe's thang, unless they have released a 64-bit version (unlikely as hell)
[05:36] <nickrud> naffy-duck: there's no pressing reason to use the 64bit version yet anyway
[05:36] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, APP VERSION : 4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
[05:36] <drgeb> is there an audio player that can play PCM 16 bit raw audio files ?
[05:36] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, PLATFORM : Win32
[05:36] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: personally, I disagree with nick, but thats me
[05:37] <DWSR> gmcastil: As root, how can I log users out remotely?
[05:37] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: i'm also not exactly a novice user, either, so i'm willing to deal with some of the consequences
[05:37] <DJAdmiral> is it just me, or are the current updates broken?
[05:37] <hsystemxX> ivanhoe, anyway, http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/24884  after the step 2 (paso 2)
[05:37] <gmcastil> DWSR: kill the process that they've logged in on
[05:37] <naffy-duck> gmcastil , nickrud, excuse my ignorance, but there are plenty of 32 bit equivalent multilmedia software to use in abuntu?
[05:37] <DWSR> gmcastil: It's tty1.
[05:37] <cube> timandtom: yeah the major difference is your session instead of gnome or kde you would use
[05:37] <Gnine> 64bit version available since feisty
[05:37] <gmcastil> DWSR: kill the proces id
[05:38] <cube> timandtom: Xfce4
[05:38] <nickrud> naffy-duck: yep.  About the only thing you can't play is drm protected stuff
[05:38] <naffy-duck> nickrud k, tks
[05:38] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: there are some - things like Maple, Flash, a few others that i can't seem to remember that you won't be able to find for 64-bit linux
[05:38] <DWSR> gmcastil: Doesn't work. Process is still there. kill -9 it?
[05:38] <gmcastil> DWSR: yeah
[05:38] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: there are several threads on this in the forums and mailing lists
[05:39] <timandtom> gmcastil: How do I edit boot options? And what do I change?
[05:39] <timandtom> cube: Ah, cool. I'll use that if this doesn't work
[05:39] <gmcastil> timandtom: when it boots, i think yo upress esc or whatever
[05:39] <naffy-duck> gmcastil , nickrud, yeah, i'm suffering reading overload atm, funny tho, i find I can chat easily :)
[05:39] <cube> good choice...i like gnome
[05:39] <gmcastil> timandtom: then, you can edit the boot options
[05:39] <nickrud> naffy-duck: you must be young, have the interactive disease ;)
[05:39] <timandtom> gmcastil: Oh, THOSE options... What do I change?
[05:40] <sslashes> i created an array using mdadm on a current Gentoo box - the drives were then moved to an ubuntu box - if i use "mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1", and mount md0, the directory is empty (i can assure you, it was not before) - but if I run "mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1", it warns me about an existant array created on Sep of 2007 (which is when I made the array on Gentoo) - any ideas?
[05:40] <DJAdmiral> Guys, I just installed ubuntu 7.10 and loads of my updates aren't installing
[05:40] <gumby600m> msg nickserv ident
[05:40] <cube> DJAmiral: what do you mean not installing? does it show the updates and then you don't see the effects?
[05:40] <naffy-duck> nickrud I'm basically trying to weigh up the install/run annoyance factor with the benefits of not having all my resources svcked up by windows
[05:40] <gmcastil> timandtom: remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options
[05:41] <gmcastil> timandtom: you might try safe mode, too
[05:41] <Tensop> dunno about you, but with ubuntu vs xp... ubuntu guzzles the memory :)
[05:41] <DJAdmiral> ttf-opensymbol, the entire openoffice.org package, and python-uno didn't update
[05:41] <cube> timandtom: and if it is a p2 i would give it awhile when it seems as things have stopped
[05:41] <hsystemxX> guzzles mean?
[05:41] <naffy-duck> eeeew, Tensop throws in a curve ball :(
[05:41] <Temagic> Hi everybody! I just have a quick question re ubuntu linux
[05:41] <Tensop> uses alot
[05:42] <DJAdmiral> it tells me that "An error occured" after updating
[05:42] <cube> Tensop: i tried out vista and used double to three times as much average memory for same usage
[05:42] <nickrud> naffy-duck: for years I ran linux exclusively with the exception of one app for work ... now I don't at all
[05:42] <gmcastil> timandtom: i agree with cube - and having those options gone will let you see whats actually going on a lot easier
[05:42] <DWSR> !ncurses
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <DWSR> !packages
[05:42] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:42] <DJAdmiral> I'll go give you the results in the pastebin
[05:42] <Temagic> is it possible to use another theme in ubuntu than the standard brown? i.e. a blue theme?
[05:42] <hsystemxX> XP sucks. its win32, and take more memory than any linux... remeber it depends on what processes are you running in ubuntu.
[05:42] <Tensop> yeah, vista uses alot of memory too
[05:42] <nickrud> !find libncurses5 | DWSR
[05:42] <ubotu> dwsr: Found: libncurses5, libncurses5-dbg, libncurses5-dev
[05:42] <Tensop> but that belongs in the bin :)
[05:42] <DWSR> Ah, that's what I'm looking for.
[05:42] <Tensop> XP boots up with ~95-120mb in use
[05:42] <timandtom> cube: Ok, will do
[05:42] <DWSR> ncurses is still referred to by some packages, which is why I thought I needed to update.
[05:43] <Tensop> ubuntu boots up with ~200mb or so
[05:43] <nickrud> Temagic: sure, system->prefs->appearance , hit the custom button
[05:43] <timandtom> gmcastil: Ok, thanks, I'll try that.
[05:43] <Tensop> XP boots faster too
[05:43] <Tensop> but thats only because its 7 years older :)
[05:43] <gmcastil> timandtom: good luck
[05:43] <Tensop> im sure a 7 year old nix distro would boot quite fast
[05:43] <Temagic> nickrud: will it be consistent in all programs, windows etc?
[05:43] <nickrud> Temagic: all the gnome apps, yes. Not any kde apps you may install
[05:43] <cube> Tensop: offtopic might be better for you
[05:43] <Temagic> ok, thanks
[05:43] <hsystemxX> tensop if thats the way, then try ubuntu 6.06 ...
[05:43] <hsystemxX> or ubuntu 5.X
[05:44] <WGGMk> Im having trouble trouble starting "DansGuardian", it just hangs on the server (Gutsy amd64) any thoughts?
[05:44] <Tensop> nah :P
[05:44] <DJAdmiral> cube, take a look: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4063/
[05:44] <apparle> bye
[05:44] <Tensop> im running xp on the desktop and ubuntu 8.04 on the lappy
[05:44] <naffy-duck> nickrud , Tensop , gmcastil apparle , i think this is a job for an real world linux/ubuntu user group, which I'll probably find here in melbourne and save myself alot of grief:)
[05:44] <sk8deamon> hi
[05:44] <Tensop> im in melb, there are no user groups ;)
[05:45] <Tensop> exactly what's the problem naffy-duck
[05:45] <nickrud> !loco | naffy-duck
[05:45] <ubotu> naffy-duck: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[05:45] <hsystemxX> it seems that there is more documentation in spanish for ubuntu than in english.
[05:45] <biouser> is there no GUI process manager in Gutsy?
[05:45] <Temagic> I'm currently sitting on a dell m1330 and installed opensuse, but the distro doesn't quite work with my laptop, then I googled and found out that ubuntu was 100% compatible with my machine:) I just didn't like the look of the distro. But if this is easy to change, I'll be downloading ubuntu now (actually I allready am...) So, soon I'll join the community:) Thanks for the quick reply
[05:45] <nickrud> naffy-duck: the one in melbourne is pretty active I hear
[05:45] <bod_> hey guys,. how do i stop a ackage from showing up in the update manager? i dont want compiz
[05:45] <gmcastil> Temagic: there are several flavors which use different window managers
[05:45] <biouser> Temagic, you will like the look
[05:45] <naffy-duck> Tensop 1/I've never used linux os 2/ My vista laptop has only one drive and two used partitions
[05:46] <David37> can anyone help me install nvidia display driver for an 8800gt i've downloaded it to the desktop but i have no clue what to do next
[05:46] <gmcastil> Temagic: for an older machine, you might try xubuntu
[05:46] <Tensop> what laptop naffy-duck
[05:46] <cube> Djadmiral are you installing the updates through update-manager?
[05:46] <naffy-duck> tks obotu
[05:46] <hsystemxX> biouser, with GUI: System Monitor, interminal:  ps -ef|grep YOUR-USER
[05:46] <DJAdmiral> Aye
[05:46] <sk8deamon> hi got a question how to modify ubuntu so i can create a os derived from ubuntu like xubuntu or kubuntu how  to package wut software do i need for this
[05:46] <a2> !lista
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <sk8deamon> can someone help
[05:46] <naffy-duck> Tensop compaq pressario v6000
[05:46] <Temagic> I hope so, it was just that the whole brown thing didn't quite make the cut... But I've heard ubuntu is the easiest and most supported distro, so I'm really looking forward to trying it out
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon, you could use a tool such as reconstructor.
[05:47] <apparle> naffy-duck: I suggest you to seek someone good in Vista (Windows chatrooms) and ask how to resize the partition in Vista itself and then install ubuntu on new drive.
[05:47] <cube> Djadmiral: if all you are having problems with is openoffice why don't you look for any needed files and if it doesn't work remove then install open office
[05:47] <biouser> thanx hsystemxX
[05:47] <Tensop> hmm
[05:47] <naffy-duck> apparle k, good idea for starters
[05:47] <Tensop> naffy-duck- i dont use vista, but try this
[05:47] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: partition magic is a program made to resize partitions - its likely about the only choice you have
[05:47] <Tensop> start > run > diskmgmt.msc
[05:47] <David37> can anyone help me install nvidia display driver for an 8800gt i've downloaded it to the desktop but i have no clue what to do next
[05:47] <Temagic> gmcastil: Nah, 2,2ghz C2D with 4GB RAM, running Vista, so I'm sure ubuntu will be just fine:)
[05:47] <DJAdmiral> cube, you're not getting me
[05:47] <Tensop> that should open up the diskman snapin in vista
[05:47] <gmcastil> Tensop: that won't work
[05:47] <sk8deamon> djadmiral how to change basic code of ubuntu
[05:47] <Tensop> what, doesent exist in vista gmcastil?
[05:47] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah, that's a little less than what i have - it runs just fine
[05:48] <gmcastil> Tensop: mt, srry
[05:48] <fallore_> can anyone help me get digital audio working on my ubuntu box? i can get it to work just fine with the same set up on for example my cable box but when plugged into the linux box it doesn't work.
[05:48] <Temagic> :)
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon: how experienced are you with linux?
[05:48] <sk8deamon> not much thats why all the questions
[05:48] <hsystemxX> David37 , i would help you, but some people may critize the way I install nvidia drivers (envy script).
[05:48] <DJAdmiral> and why would you want to change the basic code?
[05:48] <Temagic> yeah, but it's a laptop, so I really don't expect too much from it...
[05:48] <cube> David: before you try installing the downloaded driver try getting nvidia-glx (new driver) within your package manager
[05:48] <sk8deamon> never used it infact
[05:48] <hsystemxX> so, wait for other hehe.
[05:48] <gmcastil> Tensop: no...right guy - yeah, windows doesn't have a native way to do it
[05:48] <David37> pm me please
[05:48] <gmcastil> Temagic: as is mine - it works awesome
[05:48] <sk8deamon> trying to get into it now
[05:48] <RiantheBear> hey im an apple user looking for some help with my ubuntu, cant figure out my booting issue
[05:48] <sk8deamon> thats why
[05:48] <Temagic> cool
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon, then don't bother making a custom version yet.
[05:49] <alanbshepard70> how do I empty the trash when it contains files I don't have permissions for? I downloaded a package and it contained files with root permissions, once I deleted the file I can't get it to be completly trashed
[05:49] <gmcastil> Temagic: linux isn't anywhere near as harsh with system resources as windows is - 4 GB is way overkill
[05:49] <hsystemxX> David37, wait, let me register my user .
[05:49] <hsystemxX> first.
[05:49] <naffy-duck> gmcastil i was just reading about a partmagic clone called QTparted, anyone know this?
[05:49] <David37> kk
[05:49] <Tensop> theres probably a few partition resizers around for vista
[05:49] <DJAdmiral> modifying the "basic code" isn't necessary at all.
[05:49] <sk8deamon> wut do u mean
[05:49] <sk8deamon> if its opensource
[05:49] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: i'v enever heard of it - i would be leery of something new
[05:49] <DWSR> !find libtcl
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: libtcl-chiark-1, libtclap-dev, libtcltk-ruby, libtcltk-ruby1.8, libtcltk-ruby1.9
[05:49] <David37> ive been messing with this for like 8 hours off and on since last night
[05:49] <Tensop> when i bought my laptop(acer 5315) i just wiped the vista+restore partition, put xp+ubuntu on
[05:49] <sk8deamon> well i want to see wuts going on behind the scenes
[05:49] <DWSR> !find tcl
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: expect-tcl8.3, expect-tcl8.3-dev, libdb4.2-tcl, libdb4.3-tcl, python-dictclient (and 76 others)
[05:49] <cube> david: but you need to enable proprietary drivers in system-admin-software sources
[05:49] <David37> reading the forums and cnat get it to work
[05:49] <sk8deamon> like wut it was built on
[05:49] <fallore_> can anyone help me get digital audio working on my ubuntu box? i can get it to work just fine with the same set up on for example my cable box but when plugged into the linux box it doesn't work.
[05:50] <seacat> sk8deamon, sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop
[05:50] <Temagic> I found an iso image for ubuntu, preconfigured with all drivers and everyting for my laptop from the dell website, so I won't have to configure and solve issues and such... opensuse was a nightmare... used the whole day just to get internet and my bluetooth mouse working (I have no linux skills, so it took awhile...)
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> If you're making a new derivation of ubuntu, then you don't need to modify the basic code
[05:50] <Kuroachia> Does anyone know how I can get my gdesklets to run on startup?
[05:50] <hsystemxX> erm a noob question: cant remember how to register my nick... how it was?
[05:50] <Ttech> Temagic,  got a link?
[05:50] <sk8deamon> but can i
[05:50] <DJAdmiral> you just modify what you need to.
[05:50] <naffy-duck> Tensop what do u lose in going back from vista to xp?
[05:50] <gmcastil> David37: there are a ton of google references about installing the drivers for an 8800 card
[05:50] <WGGMk> test
[05:50] <fallore_> hsystemxX: /msg nickserv register password email i think
[05:50] <hsystemxX> thanks.
[05:50] <Kuroachia> hsystemxX: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[05:50] <fallore_> hsystemxX: you might not need email
[05:50] <gmcastil> WGGMk: PASS
[05:50] <Temagic> http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/iso-images/
[05:50] <Ttech> Temagic,  thansk
[05:50] <Tensop> naffy-duck: i removed the vista partition+restore partition and put XP on
[05:50] <fallore_> Kuroachia: thats to identify after being registered, just fyi
[05:51] <seacat> hsystemxX, /msg nickserv identify passwordhere
[05:51] <WGGMk> gmcastil: acctually fail, im having issues with my sound.. its on/off
[05:51] <Tensop> i didnt want vista at all - laptop only has 512mb and vista has a sucky gui
[05:51] <gmcastil> WGGMk: FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:51] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon, that's really not recommended for inexperienced linux users. You'd only end up having a broken system.
[05:51] <sco50000> what is the root password for the fiesty 7.04 live cd?
[05:51] <cube> gmcastil: there are tons of google references for fixing most things we all get help for :0
[05:51] <WGGMk> gmcastil: but thnx
[05:51] <Kuroachia> fallore: yessum
[05:51] <fallore_> hsystemxX: /msg nickserv register password email i think
[05:51] <gmcastil> Tensop: 1/2 a gig? my god, i'm surprised that it boots
[05:51] <sk8deamon> i know but got any books
[05:51] <sco50000> what is the root password for the kubuntu fiesty 7.04 live cd?
[05:51] <fallore_> can anyone help me get digital audio working on my ubuntu box? i can get it to work just fine with the same set up on for example my cable box but when plugged into the linux box it doesn't work.
[05:51] <Tensop> heh, it hardly booted up vista with 512mb gmcastil :)
[05:51] <sk8deamon> or any software to start with
[05:51] <naffy-duck> Tensop yes, i mean in performance and security tween vista and xp, xp isn't 64 bit is it?
[05:51] <sk8deamon> so  ican learn
[05:51] <norv> sk8deamon: compiling your own kernel (i.e. Linux) is one thing, modifying it is a whole different story
[05:51] <gmcastil> cube: lol...some of these questions....grrr
[05:51] <Tensop> naffy-duck what's your laptop specs
[05:51] <hsystemxX> thanks fallore (Y) it worked, without email.
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> the best way to learn is to be a bash guru.
[05:52] <Tensop> x86-64 isnt *real* 64bit processing
[05:52] <qarl> I've tweaked my .bashrc command prompt (PS1), but now when the shell wraps onto itself when I type a really long command. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[05:52] <gmcastil> Tensop: it must draaaaaaaaaag
[05:52] <Tensop> its merely an extension of the addressable memory space
[05:52] <hsystemxX> thanks the other for the replys.
[05:52] <bod_> !repeat > fallore_                    please read the private message from ubotu
[05:52] <sco50000> what is the root password for the kubuntu fiesty 7.04 live cd?
[05:52] <wsguede> help! ok, so i was looking to connect to my desktop version of ubuntu from an off IP site. What is the best way to do this?
[05:52] <Temagic> Tensop: x86_64 isn't real 64-bit? please elaborate...
[05:52] <czr> Tensop, with 64-bit registers and other 64-bit stuff. how exactly isn't it real 64-bit?
[05:52] <gmcastil> wsguede: SSH
[05:52] <WGGMk> Having an issue with my sound, it decides when it wants to work.. When running a music player it will sometimes just lock up the application
[05:52] <poningru> wsguede: what do you mean connect?
[05:52] <DJAdmiral> do you have any programming/development experience, though?
[05:52] <gmcastil> czr: the OS has to be written to take advantage of it
[05:52] <hsystemxX> David37 im PM you.
[05:52] <wsguede> gmcastil: and what do i need to install
[05:52] <czr> gmcastil, linux is.
[05:52] <naffy-duck> Tensop amd 64 1.9ghz , 1gigdram, 120gig hd, nvidia,
[05:52] <jwelcher> where does Dapper (6.06) rotate for syslog (i.e /var/log/messages) get set?
[05:53] <hsystemxX> David37?
[05:53] <gmcastil> czr: 64-bit versions of linux are - most people aren't using 64-bit linux
[05:53] <poningru> wsguede: just downloading files? or controlling the entire desktop (like opening applications etc.)?
[05:53] <jwelcher> Not in /etc/logrotate.conf apparently or /etc/logrotate.d...
[05:53] <gmcastil> wsguede: nothing - ssh is part of a standard linux install
[05:53] <wsguede> poningru: well, my computer here has all my music, i want access to it, from off the IP
[05:53] <czr> gmcastil, that doesn't make x86-64 any less 64-bit as an arch.
[05:53] <Temagic> So, do you guys recommend 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu... my processor is a 64-bit C2D?
[05:53] <sco50000> what is the root password for the kubuntu fiesty 7.04 live cd?
[05:53] <sk8deamon> i do vb, c, c++, java, html, php, css, oracle, sql
[05:53] <czr> Temagic, how much memory do you have?
[05:53] <poningru> wsguede: you just want access to your music?
[05:53] <wsguede> gmcastil: so how would i putty in?
[05:53] <hsystemxX> sco500000, password =  livecd
[05:53] <sk8deamon> want to something like bumptop but for fox chase cancer center
[05:53] <wsguede> poningru: sure
[05:53] <seacat> Temagic, 32
[05:53] <poningru> then ssh is probably the best
[05:53] <czr> Temagic, if you have less than 3 GiB and are a "regular desktop user", go with 32-bit.
[05:53] <sk8deamon> i am working there as a student
[05:53] <poningru> !ssh
[05:53] <Temagic> 4GiB
[05:53] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:53] <DWSR> !find zlib
[05:53] <ubotu> Found: libcompress-raw-zlib-perl, libio-compress-zlib-perl, libio-zlib-perl, libruby1.8, zlib1g (and 9 others)
[05:54] <sk8deamon> and i want to get into this
[05:54] <Tensop> x86_64 was introduced to get around the 4gb memory issue
[05:54] <sk8deamon> for research laptops
[05:54] <gmcastil> wsguede: putty is the right thing to use on windows, just make sure that port 22 is open on your firewall, then connect
[05:54] <sk8deamon> for nurses
[05:54] <poningru> wsguede: see that guide ubotu pointed to regarding ssh
[05:54] <Tensop> its an extension of the addressable memory space - its not capable of executing a 64bit long string
[05:54] <jwelcher> Is there some other configuration for /var/log/messsages or other log rotator than logrotate?
[05:54] <gmcastil> wsguede: i prefer to use cygwin myself, but its a matter of preference
[05:54] <norv> sk8deamon: err, something like a Beowulf cluster huh?
[05:54] <Temagic> i'm a regular laptop user... will ubuntu work with 4gig memory (3.2 or whatever) without hangups or instability?
[05:54] <DJAdmiral> I see
[05:54] <gmcastil> Temagic: mine works fine
[05:54] <Temagic> cool
[05:55] <WGGMk> Having an issue with my sound, it decides when it wants to work.. When running a music player it will sometimes just lock up the application
[05:55] <wsguede> gmcastil: will do, one last thing... how do i go about making different users to log in via ssh?
[05:55] <poningru> Tensop: uh...
[05:55] <gmcastil> Temagic: stability isn't much an issue with linux, software is usually the only problem
[05:55] <gmcastil> wsguede: useradd
[05:55] <DJAdmiral> seriously though, don't get round to modifying a system you don't even know yet
[05:55] <gmcastil> wsguede: useradd <newuser>
[05:55] <gmcastil> wsguede: passwd <newuser>
[05:55] <naffy-duck> Tensop , tougher question, once ubuntu is installed, will my machine be able to switch back and fro between the two os?
[05:55] <poningru> Tensop: not true at all, only in old intel em64t is thats true
[05:55] <Temagic> vista doesn't work out-of-box with 4 gig, needs some patch from winupd, then you can insert the last mem module...lol
[05:55] <gmcastil> wsguede: easy as pie
[05:55] <jwelcher> # grep messages /etc/logrotate.conf /etc/logrotate.d/*
[05:55] <jwelcher> #
[05:55] <DJAdmiral> you should be completely comfortable with it first, and know what to modify :)
[05:55] <gmcastil> wsguede: you can even log into your own machine from itself
[05:55] <bod_> WGGMk, are you using alsa throughout your system?
[05:56] <Tensop> naffy-duck: you need to sort out the partition issue before proceeding with installing ubuntu
[05:56] <David37> hsystem can you read me in the pm box i can read you
[05:56] <poningru> wsguede: just go to system->admin->user and add user
[05:56] <WGGMk> bod_: as far as i can tell yes
[05:56] <jwelcher> But something is rotating it weekly...
[05:56] <gmcastil> jwelcher: check if cron has something going on
[05:56] <norv> sk8deamon: or just a standard 'internet application'
[05:56] <norv> gmcastil: graphics cards can seriously hit stability, and networking.. those are the only things that ever hard locked the system or paniced the kernel
[05:56] <naffy-duck> Tensop sure, no probs with that, just want to know if i can dual boot?
[05:56] <bod_> WGGMk, i dont suppose you've found a definate trigger, anything that will definately kill the sound?
[05:56] <gmcastil> norv: is this for a server?
[05:57] <Temagic> so, a more diffucult question folks... I have opensuse and vista installed on my computer and want to replace opensuse with ubuntu... is this straight-forward in the installer or do I need some wizard skills?
[05:57] <wsguede> poningru: what does an unprivileged user get to do?
[05:57] <gmcastil> Temagic: yes, its straightforward
[05:57] <Temagic> thx
[05:57] <WGGMk> bod_: no I have not, sometimes restarting the system will fix the issue, but sometimes it will stick around
[05:57] <jwelcher> gmcastil: thx. there is a logrotate in there kicked off daily, but in /etc/cron.daily, there is also a sysklogd that does it's own thing.
[05:57] <seacat> Temagic, Just put the Ubuntu CD in and do the install.  Nothing out of the ordinary.
[05:57] <WGGMk> bod_: i previously had Pidgin set to automatic (sound) but just changed it to ALSA and it did not make a difference
[05:57] <bod_> WGGMk, does it ever die out of the blue, while listening to music or something?
[05:57] <wsguede> poningru: what does an unprivileged user get to do?
[05:58] <gmcastil> Temagic: if you haven't already, i'd recommend making multiple partitions (one for /home, /, /boot, and swap)
[05:58] <David37> hmm i could read hsystemx but i guess he couldnt read me
[05:58] <WGGMk> bod_: not that I recall no
[05:58] <Tensop> naffy-duck: grub will let you dual boot, as long as you dont destroy the other o/s during install
[05:58] <Temagic> gmcastil: I have on opensuse, but I recon the ubuntu setup will do this for me, or?
[05:58] <gmcastil> naffy-duck: you typically need to have windows installed first so that grub can squeeze it off to the side
[05:58] <naffy-duck> Tensop grub being/
[05:58] <bod_> WGGMk, ok,. can you pastebin your output for     lspci
[05:58] <sk8deamon> how do u create somethign like ubuntu from scratch
[05:58] <naffy-duck> ?
[05:58] <Tensop> grub is a boot loader
[05:59] <procrastinator> does anyone know how to resolve this error: http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2622/screenshotgnomemountmm7.png  (trying to mount an onboard raid)
[05:59] <WGGMk> bod_: sure, gimme 2
[05:59] <naffy-duck> k, tks
[05:59] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah, the ubuntu instlaler will ask you if you want to do your drives manually - say yes, then sort out the linux partitions the way you want to
[05:59] <seacat> sk8deamon,  you want to roll your own distro?
[05:59] <czr> sk8deamon, google for 'linux from scratch' and reverse endless amount of time and patience.
[05:59] <gmcastil> Temagic: just don't delete the nfs pratitoin
[05:59] <czr> sk8deamon, reserve even :-)
[05:59] <jwelcher> gmcastil: Thanks for your help. Ha ha, there is a perl script: /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles that parses /etc/syslog.conf.... oh man... well, that answers my question.
[05:59] <gmcastil> czr: i ran LFS for about a year....i liked it, but its HARD
[05:59] <naffy-duck> scuse me, i need to take a break and weep a little, tks for ur help mighty ones :)
[05:59] <gmcastil> jwelcher: :)
[05:59] <Temagic> ok,so then I delete the old linux partitions, and create new ones... will grub or whatever bootloader recognize that vista is installed and opensuse removed?
[06:00] <WGGMk> bod_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54289/
[06:00] <czr> gmcastil, it's an educative experience :-)
[06:00] <gmcastil> Temagic: if the partitions you want to have already exist, you'll just format over the old ones
[06:00] <gmcastil> czr: Yes. It. Is.
[06:00] <Temagic> k
[06:00] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon: ubuntu's not made from scratch.
[06:00] <wsguede> gmcastil: so if i wanted to ssh into my desktop from an outside ip, i would... ssh to (myIP)  ???
[06:00] <gmcastil> Temagic: pastebin fdisk if you like, i'l look at it
[06:00] <seacat> sk8deamon,  you want to roll your own distro?:  http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/roll-your-own-ubuntu-live-cd-with-reconstructor-276092.php
[06:00] <gmcastil> ssh gmcastil@my.ip.address
[06:01] <DJAdmiral> sk8deamon: it's based on debian, and it's worked on by both a community and a full list of professional workers.
[06:01] <bod_> WGGMk,  how many lines are given as the output for this      lspci | grep audio
[06:01] <Temagic> gmcastil: please elaborate? I'm running off linux now, so no fdisk? Where do I find this information in linux, and where do I post it for you to see?
[06:01] <sk8deamon> thanks seacat
[06:01] <gmcastil> Temagic: you'll post it in the pastebin
[06:01] <sk8deamon> tahnks djadmiral
[06:01] <gmcastil> !pastebin > Temagic
[06:01] <WGGMk> bod_: i dont get any lines
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> However if you still insist on making your own distro from scratch with zero linux experience whatsoever, then feel free to try out www.linuxfromscratch.org
[06:02] <sk8deamon> lol
[06:02] <gmcastil> Temagic: su to root and run fdisk /dev/<hard drive> and then 'p'rint the partition table
[06:02] <bod_> WGGMk, do the command again with a capital A for Audio
[06:02] <Temagic> thanks, didn't know... I'll post in pastbin
[06:02] <sk8deamon> djadmiral can u talk privately
[06:02] <DJAdmiral> but be warned, there's a high chance of your system breaking if you don't know what you're doing >_<
[06:02] <gmcastil> LFS is madness if you've not used linux for a while
[06:03] <WGGMk> bod_: it only returns 1 line
[06:03] <czr> DJAdmiral, one could even say that if the system doesn't break, then LFS is a failure. failure = learning :-)
[06:03] <DJAdmiral> gmcastil: aye
[06:03] <gmcastil> it took me about a month of building to get a system that was usable
[06:03] <seacat> sk8deamon, Want to build  your own custom Linux  system, entirely from source code?: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[06:03] <bod_> WGGMk, ok next question, why is your graphics card delivering you sound?
[06:03] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah...you know how to use fdisk?
[06:03] <gmcastil> Temagic: you'll need to be root
[06:03] <DJAdmiral> czr, not to the extent when your machine becomes completely inoperable.
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> but yes, I agree with you up to a point
[06:04] <WGGMk> bod_: im not sure I have an answer for that, could it have anything to do with the fact that my machine is a laptop?
[06:04] <gmcastil> czr: well, actually, you'll probably not be able to boot the first time - you'll forget to build in IDE support
[06:04] <Temagic> unable to open /dev/hda
[06:04] <Temagic> lol
[06:04] <czr> gmcastil, plural you yes. not me :-)
[06:04] <DJAdmiral> sk8, I initiated a private chat with you
[06:04] <seacat> Temagic, sudo fdisk -l
[06:04] <gmcastil> Temagic: what device is your hard drive?
[06:04] <gmcastil> Temagic: and yeah, as root :)
[06:04] <sk8deamon> i am talking
[06:05] <sosus_> Has anyone ever had a problem with video playback in skype? The person I am talking to tells me that they can see me on my webcam, but I can't see their webcam, nor the image of my own webcam (although ekiga works fine)
[06:05] <sk8deamon> but guess i have to register or something
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> I'm not getting any replies.
[06:05] <Flannel> !register
[06:05] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:05] <Temagic> ahhh... sda:)
[06:05] <bod_> WGGMk, yer,. but no,.,. lol,.,. ok,. type this in a terminal      alsamixer
[06:05] <DJAdmiral> yes, you have to register.
[06:05] <gmcastil> hehe
[06:05] <Flannel> DJAdmiral: you can /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[06:05] <WGGMk> bod_: and then?
[06:05]  * czr hopes that soon one will not see /dev/hd* anymore
[06:05] <bod_> WGGMk, make sure none of those bars are muted
[06:06] <DJAdmiral> Thanks, Flannel
[06:06] <biouser> I lost my downloads in firefox.  They always came to the desktop now the download window doesn't come up and I can't find the file
[06:06] <gmcastil> czr: i really hate the whole UUID thing that ubuntu is hooked on
[06:06] <gmcastil> biouser: probably in ~/Desktop
[06:06] <WGGMk> bod_: how would I be able to determine that? is this the same as double clicking on the volume indicator in the taskbar?
[06:07] <czr> gmcastil, I like it personally. labels would have been better for desktop use, but UUID is technically more elegant. but that's just me :-)
[06:07] <gmcastil> biouser: or, you can just open a terminal and do: find | grep <filename>
[06:07] <biouser> I lost my downloads in firefox.  They always came to the desktop.  Now, the download window doesn't come up and I can't find the file.
[06:07] <seacat> biouser, Edit -> Preferences ->
[06:07] <Temagic> gmcastil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54290/
[06:07] <gmcastil> czr: yeah, i agree with the elegant bit, but it frustated me a lot when i first installed this weekend
[06:07] <czr> gmcastil, heh, I know that feeling :-)
[06:07] <biouser> gmcastil, thanks, not in /Desktop though.  THanks fo the grep syntax
[06:07] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah dude - you'r ein good shape
[06:08] <Temagic> ;)
[06:08] <gmcastil> biouser: not /Desktop - ~/Desktop
[06:08] <Temagic> good
[06:08] <gmcastil> Temagic: just make sure that yo udon't format the NTFS or /home partitions
[06:08] <biouser> gmcastil, yeah, that's what I meant
[06:08] <bod_> WGGMk, this is gonna sound weird,.,. copy and paste the screen after youve typed alsamixer into pastebin
[06:08] <biouser> seacat, I'm listening
[06:09] <hsystemxX> kubuntu channel is patetic...
[06:09] <seacat> biouser, Edit -> Preferences -> Main tab.... change as needed...
[06:09] <Temagic> hmmm... /home ? is that a linux partition? which is currently occupied by opensuse...?
[06:09] <gmcastil> Temagic: one little warning, before you instal - rename your home directory something else, say...  "mv -v /home/Temagic /home/Temagic.old"
[06:09] <WGGMk> bod_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54291/
[06:09] <jscinoz> Hey guys, im runing 7.10 with compiz, and it seems to be fine, ie fast and stable, except for one thing. When im running a 3d application, if something causes that application to lose focus, ie a pidgin guification or a rhythmbox bubble thing, my entire system hangs and needs a hard reboot, what can i do?
[06:09] <biouser> seacat, supposedly going to ~/Desktop and show downloads
[06:10] <gmcastil> biouser: open firefox and press Ctrl-Y
[06:10] <Temagic> gmcastil: I have absolutely no files on opensuse that I need to save... is renaming home still apllicable?
[06:10] <seacat> biouser, To the Desktop is the default setting, but change it to how-ever you want.
[06:10] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah, the .X...  files can sometimes screw things up
[06:10] <Temagic> k
[06:10] <gmcastil> biouser: it'll show you in the dialog box where files are being downloaded
[06:10] <bod_> WGGMk, increse the first bar and the second to last bar to over half way up
[06:11] <biouser> gmcastil, thanks for the tip.  so, it's not downloading recently for some reason
[06:11] <Temagic> where do I put in the command: mv -v /home/Temagic /home/Temagic.old
[06:11] <Temagic> ?
[06:11] <WGGMk> bod_: the master and PCM? they are both at 100
[06:11] <gmcastil> Temagic: the terminal
[06:11] <gmcastil> Temagic: you'll need to sudo it
[06:11] <Temagic> while running opensuse?
[06:11] <gmcastil> Temagic: plus, you want a clean home directory - then just change the permissions and get what you want
[06:11] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah
[06:11] <biouser> gmcastil, seacat 'open with' works but not save to disk
[06:11] <seacat> biouser, Did you understand the instructions I gave you?
[06:12] <bod_> WGGMk, oh, ok,. hang on im just looking for another command,. gimme a sec
[06:12] <biouser> seacat, yes, I did all that
[06:12] <WGGMk> bod_: k
[06:12] <gmcastil> Temagic: what would be better is to just reformat /home, if you don't need anything on it
[06:13] <kylix13> hello, all. I am a new user for Ubuntu, It doen't have manual for the function fread(). How can I get it ? It doesn't have all libc user manuals and system call user manuals.
[06:13] <Temagic> isn't it possible to completely wipe the linux partitions during the install of ubuntu? or should I do it from windows first, and restore the mbr, and then install ubuntu? Yeah, I don't need anything from my linux partitions, I only tried to get opensuse to work, and failed:) so, I'llbe starting from scratch
[06:13] <Guest56221> yo got a quick question, I have irssi running right now but I got out of the terminal program where it was running in, how would I go about opening a new terminal and bringing the program back to the front
[06:13] <biouser> gmcastil, when I 'open with' the file goes to ~tmp and I can view it fine and it shows up in the downloads.  But, if I 'save to disk' nothing happens
[06:13] <gmcastil> kylix13: hehe
[06:13] <Flannel> Temagic: yeah.  Just reinstall, and slash and burn
[06:13] <cEw_eSemP_niEzZ> hy
[06:13] <seacat> biouser, Did you check the option:  "Show the Downloads window when downloading file" ?
[06:13] <biouser> seacat, yes, and that works if i choose to open the file
[06:13] <kylix13> gmcastil: would you help me ?
[06:14] <Temagic> Flannel: will the bootloader of ubuntu pick up that opensuse has been cast to hell?
[06:14] <gmcastil> Temagic: ubuntu will take care of everything
[06:14] <Temagic> ok, thanks
[06:14] <Flannel> Temagic: It may, it may not.  It won't be a problem if it still has the SuSe stuff
[06:14] <gmcastil> Temagic: just make sure that you assign the mount points correctly
[06:14] <bod_> WGGMk, type this          asoundconf set-default-card MCP51
[06:15] <seacat> biouser, If you right-click on a link, you will get context menu with several options
[06:15] <ldrebs_5> is anyone here familiar with apollon?
[06:15] <Temagic> ok, I think Iæ'll be able to do that... 24% of ubuntu downloaded... I'm getting excited:)
[06:15] <WGGMk> bod_: should it return anything?
[06:15] <seacat> biouser, One being "Save Link as..."
[06:15] <gmcastil> wow....i'm trashed
[06:15] <bod_> WGGMk, if the command is succesfull,.,.no
[06:15] <biouser> seacat, right
[06:15] <gmcastil> i drank a whole bottle of cote de rhone
[06:15] <seacat> biouser, Ok, that should do it, right?
[06:15] <ldrebs_4> is anyone familiar with apollon
[06:15] <Flannel> !offtopic | gmcastil
[06:15] <ubotu> gmcastil: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:16] <WGGMk> bod_: then it was successful i suppose
[06:16] <BodOmLaW> right now im on the running ubuntu live cause i cant get dmraid to work, can anybody help me?
[06:16] <bod_> WGGMk, good,. 1 sec
[06:16] <gmcastil> Flannel: i'm not in the mood for a reprimand
[06:16] <BodOmLaW> right now im on the running ubuntu live cause i cant get dmraid to work, can anybody help me?
[06:17] <ldrebs> can anyone help me with apollon
[06:17] <Flannel> gmcastil: Then go to #ubuntu-offtopic and be belligerent
[06:17] <biouser> I need to change the permissions on ~/Desktop for some reason
[06:17] <bod_> WGGMk, type this        cat /proc/asound/cards                 and pastebin the output
[06:17] <seacat> BodOmLaW, It works like this:  You ask specific questions, you get specific answers.
[06:17] <biouser> the owner is root and I think I need to give myself access
[06:17] <BodOmLaW> lol right
[06:17] <BodOmLaW> uh
[06:18] <gmcastil> biouser: open a terminal, then: "chown biouser:biouser -Rv ~/Desktop
[06:18] <ldrebs> My apollon will not connect to the networks, all it ever says is connecting.... What could be causing this?
[06:18] <gmcastil> Flannel: go die in a fire
[06:18] <seacat> biouser,  Access to what?
[06:18] <PKdoR> What foldr are my apps installed to?
[06:18] <astro76> !coc | gmcastil
[06:18] <ubotu> gmcastil: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:18] <gmcastil> biouser: how did it get root ownership/
[06:18] <WGGMk> bod_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54294/
[06:18] <gmcastil> ?
[06:18] <bod_> gmcastil, please keep it polite
 no good deed goes unpunished
[06:19] <gmcastil> PKdoR: file structure in linux is very different than in windows
[06:19] <biouser> gmcastil, I don't know how that happened.  But, changing the ownership did work just now
[06:19] <ldrebs> My apollon will not connect to the networks, all it ever says is connecting.... What could be causing this?
[06:19] <gmcastil> biouser: you go it?
[06:19] <wers> how do I edit the properties of the SLAB/gnome-main-menu?
[06:19] <Guest56221> so there is no way to bring a program back to the front of the terminal after exiting the terminal?
[06:19] <gmcastil> PKdoR: programs aren't installed in a direcory like in windows - different types of files go to different places
[06:19] <biouser> gmcastil, brilliant!  thank you so much!
[06:19] <gmcastil> biouser: yup
[06:19] <gmcastil> anytime
[06:19] <seacat> biouser, What are permissions now?    ls -l ~/Desktop
[06:19] <bod_> WGGMk, do you have sound atm?
[06:20] <ldrebs> gmcastil....are you familiar with apollon?
[06:20] <biouser> gmcastil, that is pretty strange
[06:20] <gmcastil> ldrebs: no...i'd just google it if i wanted to know about it, i've never heard of it
[06:20] <crdlb> GerrySly: use screen
[06:20] <sosus_> does anyone know how to get incoming video in skype to work? my webcam is working, but I cant see who I'm talking to
[06:20] <ldrebs> I did....i've come to the end
[06:20] <BodOmLaW> when doing the manual partition setup in ubuntu what kind of partitions am I supposed to have?
[06:20] <gmcastil> PKdoR: binaries go to /bin and /usr/bin, libraries go to /lib and /usr/lib, etc....
[06:20] <gmcastil> PKdoR: is there something more specific you were asking?
[06:20] <PKdoR> I need to manuallu remove a en extencion from fire fox but cat find the folder
[06:20] <GerrySly> yeah but how do I open a screen when I have closed the terminal
[06:20] <ldrebs> and all is working accept it just won't finalize its connection
[06:20] <BodOmLaW> when doing the manual partition setup in ubuntu what kind of partitions am I supposed to have?
[06:20] <gmcastil> ldrebs: firewalling?
[06:20] <biouser> seacat, my user
[06:20] <crdlb> GerrySly: that irssi is gone
[06:21] <WGGMk> bod_: negative
[06:21] <ldrebs> no I have a forwarded port
[06:21] <ldrebs> through the router
[06:21] <GerrySly> but the user is still logged into the irc
[06:21] <gmcastil> ldrebs: iptables?
[06:21] <gmcastil> ldrebs: linux has kernel level packet filtering
[06:21] <biouser> BodOmLaW, you need an ext for / and a small linux-swap partition
[06:21] <seacat> BodOmLaW, You should do auto partitioning.
[06:21] <crdlb> GerrySly: if irssi somehow stayed running, you could manually kill the process, otherwise you'll just have to wait for it to time out (or ghost the nick if you registered it)
[06:21] <ldrebs> yea....so how do I fix that
[06:21] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: i don't agree with auto-partitioning
[06:22] <BodOmLaW> but i want raid
[06:22] <GerrySly> yeah so there is no way to open back the program
[06:22] <gmcastil> ldrebs: sudo iptables --flush
[06:22] <crdlb> GerrySly: unless you run it in screen
[06:22] <BodOmLaW> if not my xp partition will have 250gb and that is useless
[06:22] <ldrebs> and what should I expect with that
[06:22] <gmcastil> ldrebs: you should expec it to work
[06:22] <Temagic> can ubuntu read and write ntfs partitions?
[06:22] <gmcastil> Temagic: yes
[06:22] <Temagic> cool
[06:23] <ldrebs> do I apt-get that
[06:23] <bod_> WGGMk, this is odd,.,. in the top right corner, theres a pic of a speaker, is it muted? right click on it and open volume control then go-->File-->change device,.,. how many choices have you got?
[06:23] <ldrebs> the sudo command itself said not found
[06:23] <seacat> ldrebs, It will flush out all iptables rules
[06:23] <GerrySly> god damn it
[06:23] <gmcastil> ldrebs: if it works after that, then reconfigure your firewall - that command i gave you is just a temp
[06:23] <seacat> GerrySly, That's not His last name.
[06:23] <WGGMk> bod_: no its not muted, 2 options.. Alsa Mixer & OSS Mixer
[06:23] <BodOmLaW> what would i do to get a partition that both xp and ubuntu could r/w?
[06:23] <gmcastil> Temagic: more accurately - the linux kernel supports ntfs reads/writes...whether ubuntu's kernel does, i don't know
[06:24] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: fat32 works pretty well for that sotr of thing
[06:24] <bod_> WGGMk, which one is it using?
[06:24] <gmcastil> wow...i'm pretty hammered right now
[06:24] <WGGMk> bod_: Alsa
[06:24] <BodOmLaW> how many gigs can fat32 support?
[06:24] <gmcastil> a lot
[06:24] <BodOmLaW> kk
[06:24] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: lemme google...hang on
[06:24] <PKdoR> I need to manually remove the FEBE and CLEO Extencions from firefox cause if I uninstallthem trhou fire fox it still leave the setting for them
[06:24] <jdh6403> god firestarter is easy to use
[06:24] <BodOmLaW> as long as its over 10gb
[06:24] <farid> could somebody help me with a sound problem
[06:24] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: ....oh, well, yeah, it is
[06:24]  * jdh6403 huggles his ubuntu
[06:25] <PKdoR> so I need to RM the extencions
[06:25] <BodOmLaW> great
[06:25] <bod_> WGGMk, well im stumped,.,. you seem to have a nVidia sound card, but no sound,.,.hhhmmm,. sorry i dont hink i can help much more,. try asking about again
[06:25] <ldrebs> with the command nothing happened on the surface, just started another line in terminal
[06:25] <Aloha> i just spent 2 hours trying to configure my ISA sound card. I'm giving in and buying a PCI
[06:25] <BodOmLaW> should i be using ext2 or 3?>
[06:25] <gmcastil> PKdoR: move .mozilla .mozilla.org
[06:25] <gmcastil> PKdoR: err.....   mv -v ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[06:25] <BodOmLaW> should i be using ext2 or 3?
[06:25] <seacat> BodOmLaW, For what?
[06:25] <BodOmLaW> for my primary
[06:25] <seacat> BodOmLaW, ext3
[06:25] <Temagic> k... last question (for a while...) I'm thinking of a setup of four partitions: 1. Vista 2. Linux, ubuntu 3: Linux, Swap, 4: UserData, NTFS. So, how much space should I allocate to the ubuntu partition, that will contain all the ubuntu programs, but no userfiles (pictures, spreadsheets, videos, mp3s etc.) ?
[06:25] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: ext3
[06:25] <flyback> n #electronics
[06:26] <cvd> firestarter alert me when something wanna out/in?
[06:26] <WGGMk> bod_: thanks for the help, im thinking about possibly reinstalling because ive come across some other issues that just "shouldnt" happen as well, i appreciate you assistance
[06:26] <BodOmLaW> k
[06:26] <darth_chatri> how do i get rid if the splash screen during bootup?
[06:26] <gmcastil> darth_chatri: remove the splash option in the boot params
[06:26] <bod_> WGGMk, ok,.,.no probs,. sorry i couldnt fix it
[06:26] <darth_chatri> i've got rid of the splash screen, but i cant see the boot messages
[06:26] <seacat> darth_chatri, Esc
[06:26] <BodOmLaW> so i need root, swap, and main?
[06:26] <WGGMk> bod_: its all gravy baby lol
[06:26] <cvd> like 'Firefox is trying to connect to the internet, allow it"?
[06:26] <Aloha> is there a supported hardware list?
[06:26]  * bod_ smiles ;)
[06:26] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: no...you typically want /home on a different partition
[06:27] <bod_> cvd, yes allow firefox to connect to the internet
[06:27] <darth_chatri> seacat, ok thanks, i'll try that
[06:27] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: then, the rest doesn't really matter that much
[06:27] <Mike__> what room should I ask about nvidia driver problems?
[06:27] <gmcastil> Mike__: google
[06:27] <seacat> BodOmLaW,  swap    /     /home
[06:27] <BodOmLaW> k
[06:27] <Mike__> gee gmcastil, that is so helpful
[06:27] <bod_> Mike__, if its nvidia drivers on ubuntu, you can ask in here
[06:27] <gmcastil> Temagic: i prefer to have 4 partitions - a /home, swap, /, and a /boot
[06:27] <ldrebs> gmcastil you're brilliant
[06:28] <gmcastil> ldrebs: did it work?
[06:28] <ldrebs> although it still won't connect
[06:28] <gmcastil> ...
[06:28] <gmcastil> but, you got different results?
[06:28] <seacat> BodOmLaW, or:    swap   /     /home   /usr    /var      etc. etc.
[06:28] <Temagic> gmcastil: could you please explain the functions of those four partitions?
[06:28] <j_humphrey> is it possible to make a live usb on vista without a cd?
[06:28] <ldrebs> when I entered the command nothing really happened
[06:28]  * gmcastil motions everyone to listen up!
[06:28] <cvd> cuz i have firestarter but never alert me of nothing
[06:28] <ldrebs> I put in my system password, but a new line of of command in terminal popped up
[06:28] <Mike__> thanks bod, I have 7.10 ubuntu, geforce 6600, when I load the Nvidia Drivers, I get API number mismatch, until i run modprobe -r nvidia, but it doesnt hold over between boots
[06:28] <BodOmLaW> why are the others optional?
[06:29] <gmcastil> Temagic: /boot - around 32 MB, the kernel, boot config files, and some other small stuff are here
[06:29] <cvd> WHere is the ubuntu default usplash located?
[06:29] <Temagic> k
[06:29] <ldrebs> by the way, I'm using Gutsy
[06:29] <seacat> j_humphrey,   /  is root directory    swap  is swap       /home   is home    etc...
[06:29] <gmcastil> Temagic: / - the root filesystem, /bin, /var, /root, /usr, /lib will all be on here - this is where 'the system' is stored at
[06:29] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im back, i think i stuffed something up here... was told to go into sudo nano -w /etc/sudoers, and put the user in under permissions.. but now im gettin this line...>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<< - sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24
[06:29] <Temagic> k
[06:30] <j_humphrey> gmcastil, so if i unzip the iso image onto a usb, it should boot?
[06:30] <gmcastil> Temagic: swap  -  just what it sounds like, the swap partition - should be 2X the amount of physical memory you have - yes, mine really is 8 GB
[06:30] <gmcastil> j_humphrey: no, it won't - you have to make it bootable
[06:30] <Temagic> dunno:)
[06:30] <Flannel> Temagic: Make boot 500MB
[06:30] <Mike__> sapperjankol: were you not just suppose to add the user to the admin group?
[06:30] <j_humphrey> gmcastil, how do i do that on windows?
[06:30] <Flannel> Temagic: 256 is probably fine too, but 32MB is too small.
[06:30] <BodOmLaW> seacat say i have 400gb how big should all those partitions be (/ /home swap)
[06:30] <gmcastil> j_humphrey: no idea, i don't use windows
[06:30] <sapperjanko1> Mike_:yea thats what i did
[06:31] <gmcastil> Temagic: /home - the home directory - where all your pictures, moves, music, pr0n, will go
[06:31] <Mike__> sapperjankol, pastebin your sudoer?
[06:31] <ldrebs> gmcastil: Where should I go since the iptables didn't work?
[06:31] <seacat> BodOmLaW, That's up to you.  If you only need 3 or 4 kernels,  /boot can be 200MB or less.
[06:31] <gmcastil> Temagic: the reason you want home separate is so that, after a reinstall and upgrard, you don't have to wipe out your /home directory
[06:31] <sapperjanko1> Mike__: its not letting me get back into it
[06:31] <Temagic> so, can I live without the /home partition, if I will be using a ntfs partition to share files between linux and windows?
[06:31] <gmcastil> good god - /boot should be a MAX of 32 mb
[06:32] <Flannel> sapperjanko1: when you type "groups" on that user, are you part of admin?
[06:32] <gmcastil> Temagic: you _can_, but its not recommended
[06:32] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: swap - 2X your available memory
[06:32] <seacat> BodOmLaW,   /home   can be as small or large as you see fit, depending on what you will do with your computer, what files you might or might not save.
[06:32] <BodOmLaW> who said to make a /boot partition i was just told i only needed root home and swap
[06:32] <Temagic> o.k. can I have /home and / on the same partition then?
[06:32] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW:  you odn't have to
[06:32] <sapperjanko1> Mike__:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54297/
[06:32] <Flannel> BodOmLaW: You really don't need a /boot
[06:32] <BodOmLaW> ok ok
[06:32] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: and, i wouldn't do it for you
[06:32] <crdlb> Temagic: yes you can, that's how ubuntu does it by default
[06:32] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: i do it becuase of old habits
[06:32] <j_humphrey> gmcastil, if i make the usb bootable, and unzip the iso to the usb drive, will it boot then?
[06:33] <BodOmLaW> and the root should be?
[06:33] <seacat> BodOmLaW,    /     should be no less than 3 gig, (less than 2 gig and you'll fill it almost up upon install)
[06:33] <Mike__> thats a pastevin of the error
[06:33] <gmcastil> j_humphrey: no - the iso is an image of some sort - you need to burn the iso to the media
[06:33] <sapperjanko1> Flannel: im pretty sure i am apart of the adm group :S
[06:33] <gmcastil> i made my / 10 GB
[06:33] <ldrebs> anyone else familiar with apollon?
[06:33] <BodOmLaW> ok
[06:33] <Flannel> sapperjanko1: not adm, admin
[06:33] <BodOmLaW> thank you
[06:33] <Mike__> not adm, admin
[06:33] <Mike__> different groups
[06:33] <Mike__> lol
[06:33] <Temagic> ok... so I'll have a SMALL /boot, another partition containing / and /home, and a third (ntfs) for storing files...
[06:33] <BodOmLaW> im sure ill have more questions in a moment
[06:33] <seacat> BodOmLaW, Just portion it out as you see fit, depending on the size of the drive(s).
[06:33] <gmcastil> temagic BodOmLaW: i'll pastebin my drive
[06:34] <gmcastil> shit...
[06:34] <gmcastil> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:34] <seacat> BodOmLaW, How bid is the drive?  How many partitions are you going to use?
[06:34] <bod_> guys,. i accidently removed the volume control icon from the taskbar,. i added it again but i cant move it back to the original position,.,.any ideas?
[06:34] <Flannel> !language | gmcastil
[06:34] <ubotu> gmcastil: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:34] <Temagic> so, the question remains, how much space does a typical ubuntu setup use, with all good programs installed... will I be fine with 10 or 20 GB?
[06:34] <sapperjanko1> well when i log into webmin, under that user the Primary group is travis, n the Secondary is adm (4)
[06:34] <drgeb> what program can I use to make a blind copy ?
[06:34] <Mike__> ubuntu kernel module problems?
[06:34] <Mike__> nvidia
[06:34] <seacat>   BodOmLaW   Ask yourself  ^^^
[06:34] <Flannel> sapperjanko1: 10GB should be fine.  20GB is definately sufficient
[06:35] <DJAdmiral> the flash install still broken?
[06:35] <drgeb> that was dumb sorry. what program can I use to make a blind copy of a CD to a harddrive ?
[06:35] <bod_> DJAdmiral, yes,. but there are now fixes&workarounds
[06:35] <sapperjanko1> Flannel: i think ya meant Temagic there LOL
[06:35] <Temagic> k... 10GB then
[06:35] <seacat> drgeb, "blind copy"?
[06:35] <Flannel> sapperjanko1: You're right.  You were just real close to each other.
[06:35] <Temagic> thank you all for all your help... greatly appriciated!
[06:36] <Temagic> 33% downloaded now...
[06:36] <drgeb> seacat an exact binary copy
[06:36] <bod_> drgeb, do you mean an iso image?
[06:36] <seacat> drgeb, Do you want to make an ISO image of the CD on your hard drive?  So that you can burn a CD later on?
[06:36] <VvWolverinevV> hi, can anyone help me with some gutsy-to-xp networking troubles?  i posted details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684366
[06:36] <BodOmLaW> ok root 10gb, home 460+, swap 4gb
[06:36] <BodOmLaW> sound right
[06:37] <qarl> can anyone recommend a lightweight IMAP mail server?
[06:37] <gmcastil> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54299/
[06:37] <drgeb> seacat these cd's are all audio files. so I have a backup
[06:37] <gmcastil> that's after a pretty standard xubuntu install (no KDE)
[06:37] <drgeb> seacat I just played with cdparanoia and then created a raw file. I ran in 4 times and then did an md5sum of the 4 files and compared them and they were equal but
[06:37] <seacat> BodOmLaW,   460+ ?   Is that 460G?
[06:37] <BodOmLaW> gb=*
[06:37] <gmcastil> Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB, 100030242816 bytes
[06:37] <gmcastil> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders
[06:37] <gmcastil> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:37] <gmcastil> Disk identifier: 0x0006f2ec
[06:37] <gmcastil>  
[06:37] <FloodBot3> gmcastil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <gmcastil>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:38] <Mike__> do i have to run modprobe -r nvidia on every boot?
[06:38] <BodOmLaW> 460gb=**
[06:38] <BodOmLaW> lol
[06:38] <bod_> drgeb, im confused what do you mean by a "blind copy"??
[06:38] <m0dY> hey, how can i know the number of bytes per inode of a certain partition or a certain hard disk ?
[06:38] <seacat> BodOmLaW, What size is the HD?
[06:38] <bod_> !pastebin | gmcastil
[06:38] <drgeb> bod_ an exact binary replica of the CD
[06:38] <sapperjanko1> does this make any sence 2 you guys..... ubuntu : Feb  1 17:31:45 : travis : parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24 ; TTY=pts/0
[06:38] <BodOmLaW> 2x 250
[06:38] <sapperjanko1> ; PWD=/var/www ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/nano -w /etc/sudoers
[06:38] <Flannel> drgeb: you want to create an iso from your CD
[06:38] <drgeb> seacat then I found out about k3b and tried this but when I compared the raw file with that off cdparanioa they were different
[06:38] <bod_> drgeb, you want to make an exact copy of a cd?
[06:38] <seacat> drgeb, What is on the CD?
[06:38] <BodOmLaW> but it adds up to 466
[06:38] <ubotu> gmcastil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <BodOmLaW> i got ripped off like 33gb
[06:39] <drgeb> seacat alll the CD's are audio cd's
[06:39] <BodOmLaW> 34gb i mean
[06:39] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: 33gb is probalby in a hidden pratition
[06:39] <Temagic> gmcastil: cool. thanks
[06:39] <gmcastil> Temagic: yeah, does that help?
[06:39] <BodOmLaW> hidden by who?
[06:39] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: manufacturer
[06:39] <Flannel> BodOmLaW: GiB vs GB
[06:39] <Temagic> yeah...
[06:39] <sapperjanko1> the boggy man :P
[06:39] <bod_> drgeb,  but you want an axact copy of them? i think you mean an iso
[06:39] <m0dY> how can i know the number of bytes per inode of a certain partition or a certain hard disk ?
[06:39] <seacat> drgeb, Then you want to rip the CD and put .wav files on your HD?
[06:39] <BodOmLaW> why would they do that?
[06:39] <BodOmLaW> what purpose?
[06:39] <Temagic> recon I'll be using / and /home on the same partition though, as I doubt I can mount /home on a ntfs partition?
[06:39] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: system restore information is often put there
[06:40] <VvWolverinevV> hi, can anyone help me with some gutsy-to-xp networking troubles?  i posted details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684366
[06:40] <bod_> seacat, do you understand his question?
[06:40] <seacat> drgeb, Use CD ripper:  like sound juicer or...
[06:40] <bod_> !repeat | VvWolverinevV
[06:40] <ubotu> VvWolverinevV: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:40] <BodOmLaW> i think this is actually working this time
[06:40] <Flannel> BodOmLaW: HDD mfcs measure in GB (1000000 Bytes), your OS uses GiB (1048576B)
[06:40] <drgeb> seacat yes step 1 from cd to (raw or iso) step2 from (raw or iso ) to mp3 or flac or whatever. step 3 get a slingbox so I can stream this to my highend fidelity audio system
[06:40] <BodOmLaW> really
[06:40] <seacat> bod_,  He wants to rip music CDs I think.
[06:41] <Mike__> do i have to run modprobe -r nvidia on every boot?
[06:41] <BodOmLaW> no gigabytes?
[06:41] <gmcastil> Mike__: no
[06:41] <Mike__> gmcastil, what will make it hold?
[06:41] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: what he's sayings is that 1 GB != 1000000000
[06:41] <bod_> drgeb, just explore the cd, copy the files onto your drive, then use a converter to get them to the correct format
[06:41] <gmcastil> Mike__: man modprobe.conf
[06:41] <BodOmLaW> ic
[06:41] <Flannel> BodOmLaW: Gigabytes as far as HDD is concerned is 10^6, GibiBytes is 1024*1024 bytes.  One is binaryish, one is decimal.
[06:41] <drgeb> seacat soundjuice immediately goes to mp3 so I don't have an exact image backup copy of the cd itself
[06:41] <bod_> seacat, confusing way of saying that,.,.lol
[06:42] <seacat> drgeb, Applications --> Sound Juicer
[06:42] <BodOmLaW> ok i see
[06:42] <drgeb> bod_ what ISO copy programs are there for linux ?
[06:42]  * VvWolverinevV apologizes to bod_
[06:42]  * bod_ says thankyou, and just be patient ;)
[06:42] <drgeb> seacat I know about sound juicer but this is not exactly what I am looking for
[06:42] <gmcastil> wow...3 wisemen are evil
[06:42] <seacat> drgeb, Is that what you want?
[06:42] <BodOmLaW> so now that i have my partitions i install?
[06:42] <seacat> drgeb, sudo apt-get install grip
[06:43] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: actualy, the installer will elt you do all that stuff yourself in it too
[06:43] <Flannel> BodOmLaW: You actually create the partitions in the installer, usually.
[06:43] <imaginal> drgeb: is wav exact enough for you?
[06:43] <BodOmLaW> yes, but i found it a little easier with gparted cause ive been playing with it all night
[06:43] <rctmcl> and practice sodomy
[06:43] <seacat> drgeb, grip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder
[06:43] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: with a little bit of time, you'l find that command line utilities like fdisk are a lot faster and easier
[06:44] <PKdoR> mk is the make directory command right?
[06:44] <seacat> PKdoR, mkdir
[06:44] <mazev> PKdoR: mkdir
[06:44] <joseph> using ubuntu for my first time!
[06:44] <bod_> BodOmLaW, the command line is your bestest friend ;)
[06:44] <joseph> love it
[06:44] <gmcastil> PKdoR: mkdirasdfasdf
[06:44] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: its true...you'll never really statr understanding linux until you use the comand line
[06:44] <seacat> joseph,  congradulations!  :)
[06:44] <BodOmLaW> im a newb!
[06:44] <Mike__> gmcastil, should I blacklist it then?
[06:44] <PKdoR> sudo mkdir /usr/lib/firefox/searchplugins
[06:44] <PKdoR> is that right
[06:44] <PKdoR> ?
[06:45] <gmcastil> PKdoR: what are you doing and why?
[06:45] <bod_> BodOmLaW, so,. he's still your friend   ;),.,.
[06:45] <BodOmLaW> ok
[06:45] <seacat> PKdoR, Yes that is right syntax
[06:45] <joseph> i have one question though... i don't see like half the applications that are checked off in the add/remove applications in the applications folder
[06:45]  * gmcastil abhors the word 'folder'
[06:45] <PKdoR> I have previouslly saved seach pluggins that I would like to import to ubuntu firefox
[06:45] <bod_> BodOmLaW, as you learn how things work you will realise that the command line is indispensable
[06:45] <BodOmLaW> i do use terminal for sudo dmraid -ay
[06:45] <Mike__> gmcastil, the people at #nvidia say its a ubuntu kernel module bug, I am not sure what I am looking for
[06:45] <BodOmLaW> to refresh
[06:45] <gmcastil> PKdoR: you can do it in your home directory - that would be wizer, i think
[06:46] <seacat> joseph, What is your question?
[06:46] <PKdoR> they are in really>?
[06:46] <PKdoR> how would I go about that then./
[06:46] <bod_> BodOmLaW, which program do you use to listen to music?
[06:46] <gmcastil> Mike__: yeah, the ubuntu module is broken - you'll need to compile your own from source or wait until a patch comes out (which outht to be soon)
[06:46] <BodOmLaW> in xp it was itunes
[06:46] <BodOmLaW> but
[06:46] <BodOmLaW> now im gonna switch to songbird
[06:46] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: i use xmms, but there are a lot of other choices
[06:46] <BodOmLaW> some good mozzila stuff
[06:46] <tinman> I am getting a large number of errors after I had a boot problem ( i ran e2fsck through live cd) one of the error Failed to execute program /usr/lib/gnome-control-center/gnome-settings-daemon: Permission denied
[06:47] <bod_> BodOmLaW, i suggest trying amarok,.,. do you have songbird installed atm?
[06:47] <seacat> BodOmLaW, xmms  mpg123    etc. etc.
[06:47] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: mpg123 is for kings
[06:47] <BodOmLaW> im on live right now
[06:47] <gmcastil> bash + mp3 ftw
[06:47] <PKdoR> I think I just found out how
[06:47] <Mike__> gmcastil, which module are we talking about here, I compiled the nvidia module from source
[06:47] <joseph> seacat- i don't see like half the applications that are checked off in the add/remove applications in the applications folder
[06:47] <BodOmLaW> so if i did install my music is on a bunch of disks beside me
[06:47] <gmcastil> joseph: quit spamming
[06:47] <bod_> BodOmLaW, try typing     totem      in a terminal,.,.
[06:47] <BodOmLaW> ? why
[06:47] <PKdoR> the settings are in ."folder name" right?
[06:48] <tinman> I am getting around 12 errors in total
[06:48] <BodOmLaW> what is totem?
[06:48] <gmcastil> PKdoR: yeah, usually
[06:48] <bod_> BodOmLaW, it will load a music/video player
[06:48] <PKdoR> ok
[06:48] <seacat> BodOmLaW, Totem is a video player
[06:48] <gmcastil> PKdoR: thats the normal place for applications to stash user level stuff
[06:48] <BodOmLaW> can i stream music?
[06:48] <bod_> yes
[06:48] <PKdoR> nice
[06:48] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yeah
[06:48] <BodOmLaW> or do i have to have my own
[06:48] <BodOmLaW> off the internet?
[06:48] <BodOmLaW> or off disk
[06:48] <seacat> BodOmLaW, Sure...
[06:49] <sosus_> does anyone know how to get incoming video in skype to work? my webcam is working, but I cant see who I'm talking to
[06:49] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: there rreally ain't much you can't do in linux that you can do in windows, it just takes a little more effort and understanding
[06:49] <gmcastil> hey guys...i have to apologize if i'm being a dick....i'm completely trashed
[06:49]  * imaginal writes on gmcastil with a sharpee
[06:49] <gmcastil> i've no idea what i've told anyone tonight...hopefully, i'm being helpful
[06:50] <bod_> gmcastil, please control your urge to tell us things like this,.,. just be polite and we'll have no problems
[06:50] <seacat> gmcastil, BodOmLaW   Actually, just different app names is all, it's not any more difficult really.
[06:50] <BodOmLaW> i have no music on here and the dvdrom is using the ubuntu disk, i cant play music
[06:50] <gmcastil> bod_: i like telling things like this...get over youself
[06:50] <Temagic> gmcastil: you're not being a dic*, you're actually helpfull, besides, tomorrow you can read the log:)
[06:50] <BodOmLaW> fakeraid is a lot more difficult
[06:50] <seacat> gmcastil, It that is the case, maybe you should just hide and watch.
[06:50] <gmcastil> Temagic: i finally found my .emacs file, so now i can actually work again
[06:51] <bod_> BodOmLaW, im just trying to show you that anything you can do in the graphical interface, you can do from terminal,.,. such as typing    firefox &        to load mozilla firefox
[06:51] <gmcastil> Temagic:  i had to pull it off of my work computer
[06:51] <BodOmLaW> cool
[06:51] <tinman>  fastfinger was kicked from #xyz by ChanServ [You can not create new
[06:51] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: oh yeah dude....i'm using IRC from a text prompt
[06:51] <tinman>           channels.]
[06:51] <tinman> err
[06:51] <tinman> sorry
[06:51] <tinman> Sohuld I link to the screen shot of my errors?
[06:51] <Mike__> can someone tell me how to make modprobe -r nvidia survive reboots
[06:51] <Temagic> gmcastil: don't know what an .emacs-file is, but, good that you found it:)
[06:51] <BodOmLaW> how long should i expect it too take to resize my partition?
[06:51] <seacat> gmcastil is an irssi user  Yes?
[06:51] <gmcastil> Temagic: .files are config files
[06:51] <gmcastil> seacat: no...emacs
[06:51] <seacat> o
[06:51] <BodOmLaW> ?
[06:52] <imaginal> BodOmLaW: depends on the size
[06:52] <gmcastil> Temagic: dot-files are config files for programs
[06:52] <BodOmLaW> i installed xchat with terminal
[06:52] <BodOmLaW> fyi
[06:52] <Temagic> k
[06:52] <gmcastil> Temagic: open up a terminal, and type 'ls -al' and you'l see a  bunch of hidden files
[06:52] <BodOmLaW> i had to google how
[06:52] <Temagic> so what is the .emacs a config file for?
[06:52] <gmcastil> .bashrc, .bash_profile are bsah files
[06:52] <BodOmLaW> but thats not the point lol
[06:52] <gmcastil> Temagic: emacs
[06:53] <Temagic> and emacs is what program?
[06:53] <Temagic> type of program..
[06:53] <bod_> BodOmLaW, cool,.,. have you tried loading xchat from terminal?  by the way,. if your loading a program from terminal make sure to put a & after the name of the program eg   xchat &     so that you can still use the terminal after opening the program
[06:53] <gmcastil> Temagic: its a very extensible text editor...stands for Editor MACroS
[06:53] <Temagic> k
[06:53] <BodOmLaW> good tip thanks
[06:54] <Temagic> like a spiced up notepad:)
[06:54] <gmcastil> its basically a lisp interpreter that is used by a lot of programmers and some system admins
[06:54] <bod_> ;)
[06:54] <gmcastil> Temagic: not really
[06:54] <BodOmLaW> what time is it?
[06:54] <gmcastil> Temagic: text editing is only a minor function
[06:54] <BodOmLaW> lol nevermind
[06:54] <BodOmLaW> you are who know where
[06:54] <Temagic> what are you programming gmcastil?
[06:54] <seacat> Temagic, emacs is a very powerful editor
[06:54] <bod_> BodOmLaW, what?
[06:55] <BodOmLaW> nevermind
[06:55] <gmcastil> Temagic: as your time in linux progresses, you'l need to start learning to use a text edirot, and you'll learn to use emacs or vi (the other commonly used txt editor)
[06:55] <BodOmLaW> its taking forever!
[06:55] <bod_> BodOmLaW, patience,.,.,.lol
[06:55] <Temagic> as in, me giving back to the community? :)
[06:56] <gmcastil> Temagic: there are basically two major divisions in the linux world concerning text editors - 44.5% use Vi, 44.5% use Emacs, and 1% use everything else
[06:56] <seacat> Temagic, emacs  vim  pico  joe    (Editors)
[06:56] <gmcastil> Temagic: people hold PASSIONATE beliefs...more than a few flame wars have started over it
[06:56] <gmcastil> Temagic: programmers tend to prefer emacs, while system admins prefer Vi, though exceptions are common
[06:56] <gmcastil> i myself am an exception....i started using Emacs as a systems admin
[06:57] <seacat> Temagic, And vi users don't talk to pico users  etc. etc. etc.
[06:57] <gmcastil> yeah, basicaly, half and half use vi and emacs, very few use the others
[06:57] <BodOmLaW> gmcastil 44.5+44.5 = 89
[06:57] <bod_> Temagic, editors like vim or emacs are essential for modifying critical files if something goes wrong,.
[06:57] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: shit....
[06:57] <BodOmLaW> what about the other 10%?
[06:57] <Temagic> hehe, well, I LOVE notepad that comes with windows:) Guess I'll check out emacs when I install ubuntu then. Vi I've tried before... on Fedora... for some config file or something
[06:57] <BodOmLaW> lol
[06:57] <BodOmLaW> im considering fedora now
[06:57] <seacat> Temagic, You'll like gedit
[06:57] <bod_> BodOmLaW, why?
[06:58] <BodOmLaW> cause it is raid compatible
[06:58] <gmcastil> learn to use Vi at least a little bit - its required on a linux installation, so you'll always have it there
[06:58] <seacat> Temagic, But the others we discussed are CLI
[06:58] <Temagic> BodOmLaW: nah, poor translation and confusing menus...
[06:58] <bod_> Temagic, true, you may prefer gedit or nano, but remember that emacs and vi are the more powerfull ones
[06:58]  * mopflite loves vi (well, vim)
[06:58] <gmcastil> Temagic: it's important to be able to use Vi a little bit, since if you need to fix your system without X, you can use it
[06:58] <BodOmLaW> so you guys are hardcore Ubuntu eh?
[06:58]  * gmcastil thinks Vi is important to know a little bit about, since it isn't linked against X
[06:59] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: no...just linux
[06:59] <seacat> Temagic, nano is a good one to start with, it's very simple and easy to learn.
[06:59] <jscinoz> Hey guys, im runing 7.10 with compiz, and it seems to be fine, ie fast and stable, except for one thing. When im running a 3d application, if something causes that application to lose focus, ie a pidgin guification or a rhythmbox bubble thing, my entire system hangs and needs a hard reboot, what can i do?
[06:59] <bod_> gmcastil, although vi has a non-newb friendly way of using it, you can still use nano without X
[06:59] <Temagic> sure, I don't doubt it... I'll get to learn all those programs in due time... right now, I'm forgetting all the names of text editors:)
[06:59] <detgar> could someone go to System->Preferences->Sessions and let me know the command used to start NetworkManager, please?
[06:59] <gmcastil> bod_: nano isn't required on a linux installation - Vi is
[06:59] <seacat> jscinoz, uninstall compiz
[06:59] <BodOmLaW> holy shit! its working finally fuck
[06:59] <mopflite> Temagic: it's worth learning vi or emacs since either can be used remotely when ssh'ed into a linux machine - as you progress in your linux adventures you will probably want to be able to maintain and administer machines remotely, without being sat at them with a keyboard, mouse and monitor
[07:00] <bod_> gmcastil, no, what im saying is, vi can be difficult to use if you dont no what your doing
[07:00] <Temagic> BodOmLaW: I'm sitting on OpenSUSE now as we speak. I like it, but my hardware isn't 100% compatible with it, which it is with ubuntu
[07:00] <bod_> !language | BodOmLaW
[07:00] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:00] <BodOmLaW> in two hours
[07:00] <gmcastil> bod_: agreed....but, you can be an expert at nano, and if it ain't there, you be fawked
[07:00] <ePax> How do i get .PBP files to run whith PSX emulator?
[07:00] <BodOmLaW> lol for all those 8 year all developers right?
[07:00] <seacat> BodOmLaW, Easer than MS Windows, right?
[07:00] <gmcastil> Temagic: all the verions just blend together at this point...linux is linux, although Ubuntu does some really wierd shit sometimes
[07:00] <BodOmLaW> lol kk sorry
[07:00] <bod_> gmcastil, true,.,.lol,.,.
[07:00] <mopflite> Temagic: I started out with suse in 2002 but they've lost their way a bit imho - I tried opensuse 10.3 the other day and really didn't like it too much
[07:00] <ePax> Or how do i reverse .PBP files to .ISO files with CUE?
[07:00] <corporeal> anyone here use funionfs?
[07:01] <BodOmLaW> what is easer?
[07:01] <gmcastil> mopflite: i was redhat for life.....bastards  blew it
[07:01] <seacat> Ubuntu
[07:01] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: ubuntu would be real easy for a neophyte to start learning the way linux works
[07:01] <mopflite> gmcastil: I've heard that yes
[07:01] <BodOmLaW> define neophyte
[07:01] <gmcastil> seacat: it really takes the edge off of the learning curve
[07:01] <mopflite> ubuntu is actually easier to learn than windows, for a complete newbie to computing in general
[07:01] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: if you've asked any of the questions that i've ansewred tonight, your a neophyte
[07:02] <BodOmLaW> ya its not to bad
[07:02] <BodOmLaW> ic
[07:02] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: its not bad or antynhg - we all start at the beginning
[07:02] <BodOmLaW> neo means new
[07:02] <BodOmLaW> im aware im a newb
[07:02] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: i feeli like a noob when i start asking questions in #python
[07:02] <BodOmLaW> im fine with that
[07:02] <seacat> gmcastil, Yes, you are correct
[07:02] <bod_> mopflite, unless you have no idea what your doing,.,. the annoying thing is kids are taught windows alll there school life,. then come out of school knowing of nothing else
[07:02] <gmcastil> seacat: no ide awhat you're referring to, but i'll take your word for it
[07:03] <ePax> mopflite: Ubuntu is not easier than win. But its kinda close.
[07:03] <seacat> neophyte -  A new convert or proselyte; -- a name given by the early
[07:03] <seacat>  Christians, and still given by the Roman Catholics, to
[07:03] <seacat>  such as have recently embraced the Christian faith, and
[07:03] <seacat>  been admitted to baptism, esp. to converts from heathenism
[07:03] <seacat>  or Judaism.
[07:03] <BodOmLaW> depends what area
[07:03] <FloodBot3> seacat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <bod_> BodOmLaW, theres nothing wrong with being a n00b,.,. as long as your willing to learn and accept advice
[07:03] <Temagic> me too, and I'm a complete newb (though I got fedora working... lots of text editing and googling for command lines... like DOS lol...) I like the idea of opensoftware, so I'm sure BigbRother doesn't record my webcaam and screen my files and check on everything I type and do and say. I do NOT trust Microsoft, for the simple reason that Microsoft and Bono are working together:)
[07:03] <ePax> But its one of the easier linux distros and its easy to get help as well.
[07:03] <gmcastil> ePax: i disagree - linux is harder to learn that windows simply because there's more to learn and the answer is never "its broken"
[07:03] <BodOmLaW> that is why i am here not spending hours google the same stuff over and over
[07:03] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: learn to use google
[07:03] <BodOmLaW> i can
[07:04] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: most of the questions people ask me, i answer by googling for it
[07:04] <seacat> BodOmLaW, google is your friend
[07:04] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: google and man/info pages
[07:04] <BodOmLaW> and i got to the point that i knew fakeraid dmraid how to use the gparted
[07:04] <seacat> BodOmLaW, www.google.com/linux    is also your friend
[07:04] <BodOmLaW> but i got stuck
[07:04] <BodOmLaW> I have always loved google
[07:04] <BodOmLaW> and the best part
[07:04] <bod_> BodOmLaW, google is definately one of your best frineds,.,. many people on this channel figure out the answer to peoples questions just by googleing it
[07:04] <gmcastil> yup
[07:04] <BodOmLaW> google is canadian
[07:04] <Nyle> hey
[07:05] <bod_> hi
[07:05] <BodOmLaW> one canadian thing to be proud of
[07:05] <corporeal> ?
[07:05] <BodOmLaW> and our beer
[07:05] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: too bad your beer sucks
[07:05] <gmcastil> lol
[07:05] <BodOmLaW> lol whatever
[07:05] <bod_> haha
[07:05] <gmcastil> its nast
[07:05] <gmcastil> i live in the colorado front range....all we have is good beer
[07:06] <bod_> gmcastil, belgiums are one of the best for beer,.,. they dont bother with 4% lager,. its all 6-10% wickedness
[07:06] <gmcastil> bod_: 12%....gotta love the 1554
[07:06] <gmcastil> well, i'm off to bed unless there are any last questions
[07:06] <Temagic> yeah belgian beer, I second that!
[07:06] <bod_> gmcastil, haha,.,. night
[07:06] <lolmaus> Hi ^_^
[07:06] <gmcastil> Temagic: new belgium brewing is just up the street from my house
[07:06] <BodOmLaW> yes the and the belgium chocolate is the best
[07:06] <Nyle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54301/ <-- this is my dmesg|grep ata .  Sometimes while using my system, my compter freezes up for like half a minute to a minute and then starts working ok.  I have recently started to see some of these messages while booting up that were not there before regarding ata.  Could someone please look and possibly help me figure out if it is my disk that is going bad
[07:07] <gmcastil> lolmaus: this had better be good
[07:07] <Temagic> gmcastil: good "night"
[07:07] <Nyle> Thank you very much
[07:07] <BodOmLaW> deos anyone here overclock?
[07:07] <seacat> Gennis Extra Stout   rocks!  (actually, I like half & half best)
[07:07] <Temagic> gmcastil: good night and thank you for your time and effort
[07:07] <BodOmLaW> cause i restored my bios today
[07:07] <BodOmLaW> but before
[07:07] <BodOmLaW> it was beeping before it would boot
[07:07] <bod_> BodOmLaW, do you mean overclocking your processor?
[07:07] <BodOmLaW> yes
[07:07] <gmcastil> i'll be baack on tomo=rrow night - i've onlhy been using ubuntu about a day or so :)
[07:08] <Temagic> :)
[07:08] <Temagic> 45% downloaded....
[07:08] <seacat> BodOmLaW,  I see little need for overclocking.
[07:08] <bod_> BodOmLaW, why would you want to overclock it? dont do it without allot of reading first
[07:08] <BodOmLaW> i know what im doing
[07:08] <bod_> seacat, its generally used for gaming computers
[07:08] <BodOmLaW> i just wondered about what message the beeps were giving me
[07:08] <Temagic> BodOmLaW: do you play a lot of 4d games?
[07:08] <Nyle> can I get some help with my problem?
[07:09] <BodOmLaW> 4d?
[07:09] <seacat> I would rather have a stable system than one that might be a tiny bit faster.
[07:09] <Temagic> oh, sorry, 3d
[07:09] <bod_> BodOmLaW, good,. then you know theres no point,. especialy as ubuntu doesnt kill the processor like windows does
[07:09] <BodOmLaW> yes i do
[07:09] <Temagic> i'm a bit tired
[07:09] <Nyle> maybe this is better suiited  for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <Nyle> ?
[07:09] <gmcastil> bod_: or the user
[07:09] <gmcastil> Nyle: yes
[07:09] <bod_> gmcastil, yer   ;)
[07:09] <seacat> Nyle, If you ask a specific question, we will try to answer.
[07:09] <Nyle> seacat: scroll up
[07:09] <BodOmLaW> at 2.4gHz my comp is laggy on crysis
[07:09] <gmcastil> seacat: vague + ambiguiouty == ..|.
[07:09] <ePax> He asked allready.
[07:09] <BodOmLaW> and many other games
[07:09] <Temagic> so that's why you overclock... anyway, the manual of your motherboard should tell you the meaning of the error codes (i.e. the system beeps)
[07:10] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: well...yeah
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> i was at 3.5
[07:10] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yuou need a cluster to run that thing
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> lol
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> i always wanted a cluster
[07:10] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: they're a pain in the ass
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> but widows deosnt do it
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> so no gaming potentia
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> l
[07:10] <Nyle> could you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:10] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yes it does
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> right?
[07:10] <BodOmLaW> really?
[07:11] <BodOmLaW> how deos it work
[07:11] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yeah, there is clustering softwrae that runs on windows
[07:11] <foxiness> i have a device that work well when hald turn it off ,is there a way to let hald run and this device ignore by hald ?
[07:11] <Nyle> I am trying to get some actual support here, and your discussions not regarding ubuntu support are distracting others and not letting them see my problem
[07:11] <bod_> BodOmLaW, do you know that ubuntu is not a gaming OS,. linux doesnt support high end windows games yeet
[07:11] <BodOmLaW> i know this
[07:11] <BodOmLaW> im going to dual boot with xp
[07:11] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: clustering is basically just two things: unfettered network access between the nodes and a software library that allows for farming out of work to the nodes
[07:11] <BodOmLaW> just for gaming
[07:11] <BodOmLaW> ic
[07:11] <Nyle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54301/ <-- this is my dmesg|grep ata .  Sometimes while using my system, my compter freezes up for like half a minute to a minute and then starts working ok.  I have recently started to see some of these messages while booting up that were not there before regarding ata.  Could someone please look and possibly help me figure out if it is my disk that is going bad
[07:12] <Nyle> Thank you very much.
[07:12] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: mpich is the main one used in the linux world....no idea what windows uses these days
[07:12] <gmcastil> Nyle: quit spamming
[07:12] <seacat> Nyle, There are utilities for testing HDs, you should try one, but would also suggest testing memory.  memtest
[07:12] <BodOmLaW> so its like a raid 0 but with whole computers
[07:12] <gmcastil> Nyle: i'm not clicking that link
[07:12] <BodOmLaW> memtest is a good one
[07:12] <BodOmLaW> good for mem overclocking
[07:12] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: not really, its like 40 computers that can connect to each other without authentication
[07:12] <Nyle> memtest? for ata errors?
[07:12] <BodOmLaW> just a network?
[07:13] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yeah, a netowrk
[07:13] <Nyle> oh nm
[07:13] <Corty> Does anyone know, why my keyboard shortcuts mess up when i start vmware-player?
[07:13] <seacat> Nyle, Boot the install CD and run memtest
[07:13] <BodOmLaW> but it deos divide the work right?
[07:13] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: one of the nodes, the master node, runs the program and then farms out the work to other nodes
[07:13] <Nyle> seacat: my memory is fine.
[07:13] <Temagic> Nyle: yes, and also make sure the sata cable is straight
[07:13] <bod_> seacat, you can run memtest from the grub menu,.,.you dont need the cd
[07:13] <Corty> I have to change the Scheme back to something else, and back to the original again
[07:13] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: yeah, and to do that, it needs a software library which allows for the allocation of work
[07:13] <BodOmLaW> deos it work in a pyramid shape or a nova?
[07:14] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: a ring is how its typically done these days, i think - i dont remembver the speicifcs of it
[07:14] <Nyle> what are some tools I can use to check my hdd's health in every way?
[07:14] <gmcastil> Nyle: fdisk
[07:14] <seacat> bod_, Didn't know that.  Thank you.
[07:14] <Nyle> file system + physical
[07:14] <BodOmLaW> hdtach i think
[07:14] <Nyle> gmcastil: fdisk?
[07:14] <BodOmLaW> in windows
[07:14] <BodOmLaW> probly no help to you
[07:14] <Nyle> gmcastil: please don't try to help me.
[07:14] <gmcastil> i won't
[07:14] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: you can't run just any software on a cluster...it has to be written using a special library that allows for all that stuff
[07:15] <bod_> gmcastil, BodOmLaW, guys can you take your convo to #ubuntu-offtopic please,. theres people needing answers now
[07:15] <BodOmLaW> tell nyle to fuck off if hes gonna be like that
[07:15] <bod_> seacat, no probs.,.,.
[07:15] <BodOmLaW> sorry about my dirty french
[07:15] <gmcastil> bod_: uh...we're talking about using linux to build a cluster, not really ot
[07:15] <bod_> BodOmLaW, keep it clean please
[07:15] <ePax> Where are all thouse ops
[07:15] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: anyway, that's the basic idea behind it
[07:15] <ePax> !ops
[07:15] <bod_> gmcastil, but its not a support question either
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[07:15] <imaginal> How do I find my monitor's horizontal sync range? I have the maintenance guide here on it
[07:15] <BodOmLaW> cool thanks
[07:15] <Corty> Nyle, You have to use your filesystem tools for that. e2fsck for example
[07:16] <gmcastil> bod_ its irc....
[07:16] <Nyle> gmcastil stated that he has been using ubuntu for 1 day.  I am asking problem on my ata errors, and about some tools to check my hdd health, and he is telling me to use fdisk.  I simply requested that he try not help me.
[07:16] <seacat> !language | BodOmLaW
[07:16] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:16] <Nyle> Corty: oh ok, I can read the docs for that
[07:16] <BodOmLaW> t-1:37H
[07:16] <gmcastil> Nyle: well....using ubuntu for 1 day....using linux?  ....longer than you
[07:16] <Nyle> Corty: how about physically
[07:16] <Corty> Nyle, :) aye
[07:16] <nixternal> BodOmLaW: no need to tell you to keep the language clean now I guess :)
[07:16] <gmcastil> Nyle: here...hold on, i'll go google your error for you
[07:16] <Corty> Nyle, mmmm... I always do a full dd read and write and see if everything is ok, but that takes a while *g*
[07:16] <Corty> gmcastil, lol
[07:16] <BodOmLaW> nixturnal why is that?
[07:16] <nixternal> everyone else has
[07:17] <bod_> gmcastil, i had no problem with you discussing things while the channel was empty, but now people have specifically said your posts are diverting attention away from problems
[07:17] <Nyle> Corty: I see
[07:17] <BodOmLaW> ic
[07:17] <BodOmLaW> thats what i though you meant
[07:17] <Nyle> Corty: I used smartmontools and everything seems to be ok
[07:17] <Nyle> the disk isn't making any sounds
[07:17] <Nyle> in fact I did a full badblocks scan as well as a full fsck
[07:17] <gmcastil> Nyle: yup...google has a whole bunch of crap on it that you might need
[07:17] <Nyle> I have done memtests for 4 passes
[07:17] <Corty> Nyle, :)
[07:17] <seacat> Nyle, Did you run memtest?
[07:17] <Nyle> yes I have
[07:17] <Corty> Nyle, sounds good
[07:17] <Nyle> as I reported earlier, memory is fine
[07:17] <Corty> Nyle, Any I/O shit happened?
[07:18] <BodOmLaW> brb
[07:18] <Nyle> gmcastil: please do not address me any more.  You are only being sarcastic and not helpful.
[07:18] <seacat> Nyle, run  memtest  for a couple hours, see if it comes up with any errors.
[07:18] <bod_> !language | Corty
[07:18] <ubotu> Corty: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:18] <Nyle> Corty: I dont' seem to recall
[07:18] <gmcastil> Nyle: in all seriousness, what I would do is try to build a kernel
[07:18] <Corty> huh
[07:18] <Corty> what did I...
[07:18] <Corty> ah, ok, got it.
[07:18] <cbquick>  i am trying to use the Kdevelop program, i have a simple hello world program, how do i run it?
[07:18] <Corty> hrhr
[07:18] <procrastinator> is it possible to mount sfs and if so, how does one do it?
[07:18] <bod_> Corty, cheers
[07:18] <Nyle> gmcastil: why are you maliciously giving ill advice?
[07:18] <gmcastil> Nyle: i'm not
[07:18] <Corty> bod_, :)
[07:18] <cvd> Hey in windows i use ipconfig/all and in linux?
[07:18] <gmcastil> Nyle: the I/O during a kernel build is pretty intense...if there's a problem with your hard drive, that'll show you
[07:19] <nixternal> guess angelina jolie finally had enough of the excess floods
[07:19] <Corty> cvd ifconfig, simple *g*
[07:19] <seacat> Nyle, Discribe your PC.  CPU, Meomry, etc..
[07:19] <gmcastil> Nyle: or, if you want a windows solution, scandisk works really well
[07:19] <bod_> cvd, ipconfig = ifconfig in linux
[07:19] <Corty> bod_, cheers :)
[07:19] <bod_> ;)
[07:19] <gmcastil> Nyle: speeddisk, not scandisk
[07:19] <Nyle> 02:17 Ignoring ALL from gmcastil
[07:19] <Nyle> *sigh*
[07:19] <Corty> gmcastil, did he read that? *g*
[07:19] <gmcastil> no
[07:19] <bod_> gmcastil, windows call it diskcheck now,. they keep changing the name,.same program
[07:19] <Corty> ...
[07:20] <Nyle> seacat: core 2 e6300, 2gb ram, x1900xtx, ga 965 p s3 motherboard
[07:20] <gmcastil> bod_: i was actually referring to a utility called ....lemme find it
[07:20] <gmcastil> spinrite
[07:20] <gmcastil> wow, i was way off
[07:20] <seacat> bod_, REally?   Did they change scandisk to diskcheck ?   Is that Vista lingo?
[07:20] <Nyle> seacat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54301/ <-- output of dmesg|grep ata
[07:20] <bod_> seacat, no im afraid thats actually xp lingo
[07:21] <gmcastil> someone tell nyla that she should give spinrite a try
[07:21] <Kevin`> scandisk changed to chkdsk in xp
[07:21] <Nyle> could you kindly take a peek
[07:21] <izzyb_> how do I go about restarting the kde mediamanager if it isn't running?
[07:21] <Kevin`> spinrite doesn't do anything to a drive that badblocks doesn't
[07:21] <gmcastil> i think he wanted a windows solution
[07:21]  * izzyb_ was trying to unmount a thumb drive and something went wrong
[07:21] <Nyle> izzyb_: whats the error message?
[07:21] <cvd>  inet addr - ip?
[07:22] <seacat> Kevin`, chkdsk is old name
[07:22] <izzyb_> now I get a message that the kde mediamanager is not running
[07:22] <cbquick> anyone tell me how to compile a program
[07:22] <Kevin`> if you have a drive with bad blocks, there are very few cases where you should try to recover them
[07:22] <Kevin`> seacat and the new name.
[07:22] <gmcastil> cbquick: make
[07:22] <izzyb_> when I try to view the storage media
[07:22] <gmcastil> Kevin`: yeah, you usually can't
[07:22] <Nyle> Kevin`: I didn't find any badblocks
[07:22] <gmcastil> Kevin`: at best, you just work around them
[07:22] <cbquick> ok, thanks
[07:22] <seacat> Kevin`, So they just reverted back to the old name.... ???
[07:22] <Nyle> I found some ata errors during bootup though
[07:22] <Kevin`> seacat yes
[07:22] <gmcastil> seacat: i think his problem is something like a bad northbridge or controller
[07:22] <seacat> Kevin`, Very Clever!  :)
[07:23] <BodOmLaW> back
[07:23] <bod_> seacat, my knowledge only goes back to win98 but its been scandisk untill xp (since 98)
[07:23] <BodOmLaW> gmcastil a question about the clusters again, deos all the data get stored on the masternode?
[07:24] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: depends, but yeah, usually - the nodes are almost always discless
[07:24] <Nyle> wow
[07:24] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: they boot off of server
[07:24] <BodOmLaW> ic
[07:24] <BodOmLaW> fasinating
[07:24] <Nyle> I was hoping for this channel to be supportive and useful
[07:24] <gmcastil> maybe if he wasn't a dick
[07:24] <Corty> Nyle, :/
[07:24]  * gmcastil waves at Nyla
[07:24] <BodOmLaW> it is if your not a douche
[07:24] <nixternal> gmcastil: watch your language please
[07:24] <bod_> Nyle, ive looked at your message but i do not no the answer,.
[07:24] <seacat> bod_, I started with dos3.1  and always though what a un-imaginative  name DOS was.  :)
[07:24] <Nyle> Corty: :( I know, it saddens me too
[07:24] <BodOmLaW> i got help
[07:25] <bod_> seacat, DOS is not a windows program
[07:25] <Nyle> Corty: there are gems within the crowd of imbeciles though
[07:25] <Nyle> and they are always appreciated
[07:25] <ePax> Nyle: Try to search for answers in http://ubuntuforums.org/ as well. It might help.
[07:25] <kdubois> yay ubuntu@!
[07:25] <Kevin`> Nyle I didn't see your entire problem, but did you run smartctl on the drive?
[07:25] <gmcastil> i suggest google
[07:25] <Corty> Nyle, :) Always, you just have to search a lot
[07:25] <cbquick> how do i get a makefile
[07:25] <Nyle> ePax: thanks, I'll try searching there as well
[07:25] <gmcastil> cbquick: part of the source code
[07:25] <Nyle> Kevin`: yes I did
[07:25] <seacat> bod_, Yes, I know.  It is CLI only.
[07:25] <Kevin`> Nyle do you have a pastebin of the results?
[07:26] <Nyle> that I do not, I did that this morning
[07:26] <seacat> bod_,  And then there was DRdos.  PRetty good actually
[07:26] <Nyle> Kevin`: just to be sure again, I ran smarctl --all
[07:26] <bod_> seacat, it was written by someone as a university project, then microsoft bullied him into handing it over, then changed the syntax so he couldnt cdo anything about it
[07:26] <ePax> cbquick: make install
[07:26] <Nyle> Kevin`: is there some specific switch like -Dc or something I should run
[07:26] <Nyle> ?
[07:26] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: anyway, the standard approach is that the nodes boot off of the master node which farms the work out to the nodes...the nodes usually NFS mount the drive from the master
[07:26] <sapperjanko>  hey all, im still having problems here with chmod keeps coming back sayin Operation not permitted, now i was also able 2 fix my sudoers file n looks something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54302/
[07:27] <Kevin`> Nyle -a should give enough info. also have it run a long self test
[07:27] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: one of the biggest challenges is all the nodes writing to the same data at the same time
[07:27] <seacat> bod_,  Yea, and wasn't  that nice....
[07:27] <Nyle> hmm. ok  I'll scan the manpage again for a list of the options
[07:27] <BodOmLaW> lol
[07:27] <Kevin`> Nyle the individual numbers are more important then the pass/fail indicator, of course
[07:27] <bod_> seacat, did you know that the 2 creaters of mac went to school with Mr Gates?
[07:28] <Nyle> absolutely
[07:28] <BodOmLaW> can you have raid 0 arrays with more than 2 disks?
[07:28] <seacat> bod_, No, didn't know that.
[07:28]  * bod_ you learn something new everyday
[07:28] <BodOmLaW> id like a raid 0 array with some solid state drives
[07:28] <Temagic> BodOmLaW: yes you can
[07:28] <Nyle> I am not SMART guru so I would need assistance in deciphering what all this means.  I was on smartmontools.soureforge.net reading the docs for a while, I suppose I'm so tired now I forget
[07:28] <gmcastil> BodOmLaW: i believe you can
[07:28] <BodOmLaW> geeky cream dream
[07:28] <BodOmLaW> lol
[07:28] <Nyle> let me tell you how it all began
[07:28] <seacat> bod_, Really like the new osX   It's very nice!
[07:29] <bod_> ;)
[07:29] <hellothereher1> hi, since I installed gutsy I me getting problems with computer, firefox gets stuck, the computer some times freezes and I see that its doing something but cant see what is it, and the only solution is to turn off the comoputer using the power button
[07:29] <seacat> bod_, Those guys got it right from the beginning IMO.
[07:29] <sapperjanko> anyone able 2 tell me what is goin on here, n y i still cant write
[07:29] <bod_> seacat, only in the visual aspect,.,.
[07:29] <bod_> sapperjanko, whats the problem?
[07:29] <sapperjanko>  hey all, im still having problems here with chmod keeps coming back sayin Operation not permitted, now i was also able 2 fix my sudoers file n looks something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54302/
[07:30] <hellothereher1> is that a known behavior or something, I was running 7.04 with 1GB ram and it was great, now I have 2GB ram and I get problems.
[07:30] <DanThirst> omgawd i think i just fell in love with the alternative install cd for ubuntu
[07:30] <Nyle> I was on my other partition, windows xp pro x64, and I disabled one of my wireless NIC.  System froze, I rebooted, and it won't boot, safemode says acpitabl.dat not found, and in recovery consosle there is no system32\drivers\ folder.  THAT is when my linux distro started acting up.  So I took out the wifi nic thinking it was that, but this behaviour is sporadic and continues
[07:30] <seacat> sapperjanko, Can't write to what?
[07:30] <Nyle> if I disconnect this hdd and stress test my system in all ways, no crashes at all
[07:30] <sapperjanko> I am trying to chmod o+rw /var/www but still not having any luck in been able 2 do so
[07:30] <Nyle> its this hdd, but during testing i couldnt' find any errors with it
[07:31] <Corty> mystic
[07:31] <Kevin`> Nyle I once had a problem like that that I traced to a bad ide cable
[07:31] <seacat> sapperjanko, Is this a new user account?   Or the original one?
[07:31] <bod_> Nyle, theres another prime example of windows breaking,.,. but if its lost your system 32 drivers folder, are you sure it didnt lose anything else from system 32?
[07:31] <Nyle> Kevin`: I just switched my sata cable from orange to red
[07:31] <Nyle> :)
[07:31] <Nyle> lets see... so far I haven't had a problem
[07:31] <Corty> lol, it MUST be the color
[07:31] <Nyle> system has been up for 1 hour
[07:31] <BodOmLaW> someone just asked me what linux was eh.
[07:31] <seacat> sapperjanko, Use symlinks
[07:32] <bod_> Nyle,  i like the green ones personally
[07:32] <Kevin`> sata would probably either work or not work, at the cable level, since it's serial
[07:32] <Corty> BodOmLaW, was!??
[07:32] <bod_> is
[07:32] <sapperjanko> seacat: its the original, i also do have another account made on samba, but that user can only read in windows, n cant log into ubuntu.... i dunno what im doin here
[07:32] <Corty> BodOmLaW, How could he even talk from the past!
[07:33] <cvd> its there a really advantage using a SATA over a IDE?
[07:33] <sapperjanko> !symlinks
[07:33] <seacat> sapperjanko, ln -s /home/sapperjanko/webdirectory  /var/www/
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symlinks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Nyle> bod_: green is fairly pleasing at times
[07:33] <BodOmLaW> she
[07:33] <Nyle> especially in the rain :)
[07:33] <doctorow> Yesterday I upgraded to Gutsy and noticed that my sound wasn't working in Flash on Firefox anymore. So I changed Firefox's sound to AOSS, and then reinstalled the Flash plugin, logged out and logged in again. Sound worked briefly. Then I launched Amarok, and both Firefox and Amarok hung. Now Amarok hangs whenever I launch it, and Firefox hangs when I load any Flash
[07:33] <BodOmLaW> lol if you want to be a dick
[07:33] <overclucker> !ln
[07:33] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:34] <BodOmLaW> what linux is*
[07:34] <Kevin`> cvd I would use it just for the simpler interconnects, but cached reads can be faster
[07:34] <seacat> sapperjanko, ln -s /home/user/webfiles  /var/www/
[07:34] <Corty> BodOmLaW, ok :) What did you answer?
[07:34] <bod_> Nyle, its my favourite colour,.,.lol
[07:34] <sapperjanko> seacat: that must have done something now
[07:34] <BodOmLaW> another operating system beyond windows
[07:34] <sapperjanko> brb gotta help the old man
[07:35] <bod_> BodOmLaW, please watch your language,. this is a family friendly channel
[07:35] <BodOmLaW> dick?
[07:35] <seacat> sapperjanko, You can create new users and and a directory of your choosing for each page and symlink them to /var/www/      etc.
[07:35] <BodOmLaW> that is human anatomy
[07:35] <Corty> BodOmLaW, :D
[07:35] <ePax> BodOmLaW: Whats the problem with you? Are you like 13 years of age or?
[07:35] <BodOmLaW> 17
[07:35]  * DanThirst crys
[07:35] <DanThirst> whyyyy
[07:35] <BodOmLaW> im very tired and bored cut me slack
[07:36] <DanThirst> i keep getting cd read errors
[07:36] <DanThirst> AND ITS MAKING ME MAD :_(
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> (07:32:11 AM) Killers are quiet: oh
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> (07:32:14 AM) Killers are quiet:  your so smart
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> (07:32:31 AM) Drew: i know ;)
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> (07:32:42 AM) Drew: wrong smiley
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> (07:32:47 AM) Drew: :)*
[07:36] <FloodBot3> BodOmLaW: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <seacat> sapperjanko, Make a directory for the html files in a /home/user directory, and then link it to the /var/www/
[07:36] <Corty> DanThirst, screwed your disc? or your drive *g*
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> that was what she said to the linux thing
[07:36] <bod_> BodOmLaW, tiredness is not an excuse to be rude,. please try and keep it clean (a penis is the correct term)
[07:36] <Corty> lol
[07:36] <seacat> sapperjanko, apache will follow symlinks by default.
[07:36] <BodOmLaW> ok
[07:36] <bod_> BodOmLaW, ty
[07:37] <Tidus> i have a quick question... i'm trying to get the gnome-panel drag anchors to disappear (kinda like you can do in KDE to make them go away) ... how would i go about doing this?
[07:37] <Nyle> Kevin`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54303/ <-- output of smartctl -a
[07:38] <doctorow>  /quit
[07:38] <DanThirst> whenever i try to install the baste system i get a debootstrap warning
[07:38] <seacat> Tidus, Right click on it and tell it to go away.
[07:38] <BodOmLaW> if you want to be a phallus*
[07:38] <BodOmLaW> is that better
[07:38] <BodOmLaW> sorry it took so long
[07:38] <DanThirst> then the sed_4.1.5~ was corrupt
[07:38] <BodOmLaW> i had to google it
[07:38] <BodOmLaW> for the spelling
[07:38] <DanThirst> then it runs into a few more that fail to install
[07:39] <bod_> BodOmLaW, pm me if you want a biology discussion
[07:39] <BodOmLaW> lol
[07:39] <Tidus> seacat: that won't help me any.  all that comes up is "Remove from panel" and "lock" ... and when i hit remove from panel, whatever that anchor is attached to goes away with the anchor
[07:39] <Kevin`> Nyle random idea, do you have spread spectrum enabled?
[07:39] <BodOmLaW> T-1H6M30S
[07:39] <seacat> Tidus, O
[07:40] <BodOmLaW> spread spectrum is a cpu function is it not?
[07:40] <BodOmLaW> how will that help him?
[07:40] <seacat> Tidus, Maybe they are not removable?
[07:40] <seacat> I dono
[07:40] <Kevin`> bob* it applies to several things
[07:40] <Nyle> Kevin`: I don't recall seeing this option in the bios, but I can't afford to reboot at this time.  I don't know if this is available in my bios.  GA 965P S3 v F12
[07:40] <Nyle> Gigabyte
[07:40] <bod_> Tidus, what are you trying to remove?
[07:40] <Tidus> seacat: i'm trying to make the anchor 'hide' while keeping, for example, my task list on the bar
[07:40] <Nyle> I'll look at the manual.. if it is available, more than likely I've turned it on
[07:41] <BodOmLaW> it should be in your cpu configuration section
[07:41] <Tidus> bod_: ^^
[07:41] <Nyle> eitherway, I'm not sure
[07:41] <bod_> Tidus, im unsure what you mean by 'anchor'
[07:41] <Tidus> bod_: i'll put up a screenshot for you
[07:41] <bod_> ty
[07:41] <Tidus> give me a couple minutes
[07:41] <bod_> ok
[07:42] <BodOmLaW> bod_ i dont want a biology discussion, but how bout theology?
[07:42] <sangeli> Hi, I just installed kubuntu and when running Adept I get this strage error: "Another process is using the packaging system database. Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? If I say yes, it crashes. Even when I reboot I get the same issue. Not a nice start. What to do to fix it?
[07:42] <sangeli> Please help if someone knows how to solve it. Thanks
[07:42] <bod_> BodOmLaW, hang on im on the fone,,. maybe in 10-15 mins
[07:42] <BodOmLaW> lol
[07:42] <BodOmLaW> only time to kill
[07:42] <BodOmLaW> i got to say
[07:42] <Nyle> Please wait 179 minutes for test to complete.
[07:42] <BodOmLaW> i am likeing ubuntu
[07:42] <Nyle> Test will complete after Fri Feb  1 05:41:27 2008
[07:43] <BodOmLaW> i feel "free"
[07:43] <Nyle> Kevin`: I will let you know the results if I am still awake
[07:43] <Nyle> thank you guys for your help, so far the system seems pretty alright with the new sata cable
[07:43] <Nyle> lets hope nothing happens, I haven't tried to play music or movies or anything yet
[07:43] <Nyle> in fact, let me test
[07:44] <DanThirst> when i burn a ubuntu ISO what method should i use?
[07:45] <detgar> DanThirst: method?
[07:45] <Tidus> bod_: http://tidus.alive-awake.com/photos/?Qwd=./Screenshots/Linux&Qif=desktop-2008.02.01.png&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M&Qtmp=FS ... it's that little 'grab handle' in between k3b and the left edge of the window list
[07:45] <pawan> hi
[07:45] <pawan> what is mandriva
[07:45] <bod_> DanThirst, doesnt matter,. as long as the iso is on it
[07:45] <Tidus> i'm looking to change / hide that
[07:45] <DanThirst> track at once or disk at once or disk at once/96
[07:45] <detgar> pawan: It's a Linux distribution
[07:45] <snorkel> pawan: its a linux distro
[07:46] <BodOmLaW> is it good?
[07:46] <BodOmLaW> it uses ntfs right?
[07:46] <pawan> is it good
[07:46] <Nyle> wow
[07:46] <Nyle> so far so good
[07:46] <nokram> this is an ubuntu channel
[07:46] <nokram> you're not going to get unbiased opinions on mandriva
[07:46] <bod_> Tidus, sorry m8,.,. no idea
[07:46] <detgar> pawan: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva  <-- check it out yourself
[07:46] <Nyle> I've skipped through a few movies real quick that made the system freeze for a while and now they don't
[07:46] <Nyle> I guess changing the sata cable did the trick
[07:47] <detgar> pawan: there's a bunch of reviews there
[07:47] <Nyle> (I had already done that before anyone suggested)
[07:47] <pawan> ok
[07:47] <bluefoxx> can i get a link to the supergrub web page? i threw windows onto my sys and need linux back[yes, i know windows sux]
[07:47] <Tidus> anyone else that might be able to help ?
[07:47] <Nyle> 02:46 >>>> Irssi: Unignored gmcastil
[07:47] <panfist> is there a better remote desktop server to use that might be better for windows clients to connect to?
[07:47] <bod_> lol
[07:48] <pawan> can it be installed side by ubuntu
[07:48] <Nyle> anyway, thanks everyone
[07:48] <bod_> panfist, vnc
[07:48] <Tidus> bod_: quick question.  what'd ya think of the way i have my screen laid out?
[07:49] <bod_> Tidus, kde or gnome    which r u using?
[07:49] <panfist> bod there are many vnc packages...which one do i install?
[07:49] <Tidus> bod_: that's gnome
[07:50] <Nyle> panfist: aptitude install xtightvncviewer and vncserver
[07:50] <Nyle> panfist: infact, just aptitude search tightvnc
[07:50] <Nyle> tight is the fastest and most compressive algorythm used
[07:50] <bod_> Tidus, its good,.,. but too much like kde for my liking,.,.,.,.  ;~)
[07:51] <panfist> nyle the description of vncserver says that the package exists only for compatability purposes and vnc4server is newer
[07:51] <Nyle> panfist: you are trying to setup a server or what?
[07:51] <Nyle> panfist: what is your goal?
[07:51] <Tidus> lol... my screen is small (14.1" LCD in a laptop) so it's a bit low resolution to be having two bars
[07:51] <panfist> nyle also i justt need to run a vnc server on my kubuntu box i have a viewer on this box
[07:51] <bod_> Tidus,  why not shrink the bars?
[07:51] <Nyle> panfist: simply, aptitude isntall vncserver, follow the prompts
[07:51] <Tidus> bod_: anything smaller than 24px and i simply can't see it
[07:52] <sapperjanko> seacat: so i guess now i gotta install symlink
[07:52] <cabinet> good mornung
[07:52] <cabinet> morning
[07:52] <panfist> nyle then i ran vncserver in the terminal and...i could not connect to it
[07:52] <Nyle> panfist: afterwords, vncserver -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 :0 (or whatever you want the resolution to be)
[07:52] <bod_> Tidus, true,.,.,.,.,.lol
[07:52] <BodOmLaW> i have a great question
[07:52] <bod_> ?
[07:52] <Nyle> panfist: it will ask to set a password, set one
[07:52] <BodOmLaW> why would yyou want a 64bit cpu?
[07:52] <panfist> nyle whats the :0 for
[07:52] <BodOmLaW> what is the real difference
[07:52] <Nyle> panfist: to run it on display :0
[07:53] <Nyle> not the actual $DISPLAY mindyou
[07:53] <Nyle> for that you would require Xvnc
[07:53] <Nyle> so that you can serve up your current running X session over vnc
[07:53] <Nyle> vncserver will spawn a brand new session
[07:53] <Nyle> you must decide what you want, and better read up on vnc documentation
[07:54] <bluefoxx> i need to rescue my linux after installing [uggh] windows
[07:54] <BodOmLaW> why would yyou want a 64bit cpu?
[07:54] <freak41> guten morgen
[07:54] <BodOmLaW> i never got an answer
[07:55] <bod_> freak41, good morning
[07:55] <freak41> anyone here who speak german?
[07:55] <bod_> freak41, i dont but you could try the german ubuntu channel
[07:55] <pawan> can it be installed side by ubuntu
[07:55] <Y_> guten morgen I know only this much
[07:55] <_ruben> !de
[07:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:55] <snorkel> BodOmLaW: more memory addressing
[07:55] <freak41> thank you
[07:56] <bod_> Y_, thats only because it looks like good morning,.,.lol
[07:56] <BodOmLaW> meaning?
[07:56] <BodOmLaW> more bandwidth?
[07:56] <goobsoft> I setup PPA on launchpad recently and my URL returns 404.  Does anyone know if there is a delay?
[07:56] <snorkel> 32bit systems limited to 4gb memory
[07:56] <BodOmLaW> 64 8gb?
[07:57] <bod_> snorkel, really?
[07:57] <Y_> bod_: ha ha ha... no... one of my friend told about ir
[07:57] <bod_> Y_, oh,.,.kk,.,.
[07:57] <bod_> lol
[07:57] <snorkel> nope
[07:57] <snorkel> its 2^64
[07:58] <snorkel> its in terabytes
[07:58] <chabal> where can i download dvds of the repositorys?
[07:58] <bod_> snorkel, 2 to the power of 64?
[07:58] <bluefoxx> super grub link please ayone?>
[07:58] <snorkel> yes
[07:59] <detgar> bluefoxx: http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=super%20grub&meta=
[07:59] <bullgard4> "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ sudo smbclient -L localhost -U%" funktions. "detlef@Amilo7600:$ smbclient -L Amilo7600; Password: ;session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE." How can I get rid of this error message?
[07:59] <mercury_1900> wpa_supplicant question, if anyone's familiar
[07:59] <snorkel> so future points to using 64-bit systems because apps are limited on 32bit space
[07:59] <bod_> snorkel, how do u use the terminal claculator (to calculate 2^32)
[08:00] <bod_> 32*=34
[08:00] <bod_> no
[08:00] <bod_> 32
[08:00] <bod_> sorry
[08:00] <snorkel> bod_: dunno about terminal calc
[08:00] <chabal> I just need the link please:)
[08:01] <jegggg> I want to enable DVD Playblack (encrypted) in Ubuntu, but it is illegal in the US. I have bought the computer with windows vista and it plays these dvds, So would it be illegal if I download libdvdcss? I bought the license to be able to play in Windows, dont I?
[08:01] <bod_> jegggg, how will anyone know? id do it
[08:01] <bluefoxx> detgar: tyvm
[08:02] <detgar> bluefoxx: np
[08:02] <travis_> Any advice on finding HorizSync and VertRefresh of a laptop display?
[08:03] <snorkel> limit is 17,179,869,184 gigabytes on 64-bit systems should be a while before that limit is reached
[08:03] <mercury_1900> can anyone tell me why, after installing wpa_supplicant, the conf file isn't in my /etc/ dir?  do I have to create one?  how do I load it?  etc
[08:03] <bod_> travis_, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:03] <overclucker> travis_: dredge the manufacturers site
[08:03] <pawan> hi
[08:03] <bod_> hi
[08:04] <travis_> bod_, that is what I'm trying to configure
[08:04] <bluefoxx> ok, i have a 1998 p2 laptop that i have 384 megs of ram in, more than enough to run ubuntu, but when i try to start ubuntu on it i get "err: not enough memory" even though i have more than 256. remedy?
[08:04] <bod_> travis_, oh,. what laptop are you using?
[08:05] <travis_> overclucker, the manufacturer is coy, I have specs from the maintenance and service guide, but no hz
[08:05] <travis_> bod_, hp dv2550se
[08:05] <freak41> which modul i need in apache2 to use auth in .htaccess?
[08:06] <detgar> travis_: If you find a site that sells spare parts for your laptop, they'll probably have the name for you monitor. Maybe you can use that to find the exact specs.
[08:07] <bod_> travis_, ive been googleing cause i dont know how else to find those values, but i cant find them,.,. whats wrong with your values  atm?
[08:07] <pawan> hi
[08:08] <BodOmLaW> hey whens the last time everybody has been outside?
[08:08] <tiny> Has anyone installed ubuntu from a nfs share? Instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet  aren't working. What are the correct kernel parameters for nfs install?
[08:08] <BodOmLaW> you know the outer world
[08:08] <BodOmLaW> ??
[08:08] <bullgard4> "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ sudo smbclient -L localhost -U%" functions. But "detlef@Amilo7600:$ smbclient -L Amilo7600; Password: ;session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" not. How can I get rid of this error message?
[08:08] <travis_> bod_, anything moving quickly shows sheering/horizontal lines through it
[08:08] <overclucker> i tooks out the trash today. . .
[08:09] <travis_> i.e. video playback, moving windows...
[08:09] <bod_> travis_, what is the size of your screen.,.,. 14 inch 15?
[08:09] <bluefoxx> BodOmLaW: i was on the bus today...some guy picked a fight with the driver
[08:09] <BodOmLaW> for me it was wednesdy at 6
[08:09] <travis_> bod_, 14.1"
[08:09] <BodOmLaW> ish
[08:09] <BodOmLaW> its cold and scary lol
[08:10] <bod_> travis_,  i have a small thinkpad the same size,.,. do u want to try my values?
[08:10] <bod_> BodOmLaW, what is this 'Outside' you speak of?
[08:10] <travis_> bod_, worth a try. I'm good at restoring borked xorg.conf files by now
[08:10] <BodOmLaW> it is this big bright place
[08:10] <bod_> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <bod_> oops
[08:11] <bod_> wrin comp
[08:11] <BodOmLaW> inspires fear into the hearts of nerds
[08:11] <overclucker> and then i went to freegeek yesterday
[08:11] <BodOmLaW> but
[08:11] <BodOmLaW> if you saw me on the street you wouldnt think im a nerd
[08:12] <BodOmLaW> playing geometris puts the tetris theme in my head
[08:13] <bod_> travis_,  HorizSync 28-51    VertRefresh 43-60
[08:13] <BodOmLaW> so, does everybody here love jesus?
[08:13] <travis_> bod_, thanks... resetting x soon
[08:13] <pawan> hi
[08:13] <bod_> no probs
[08:14] <bod_> pawan,  hello!
[08:14] <overclucker> BodOmLaW: in their own way
[08:14] <BodOmLaW> i dont
[08:14] <bod_> i dont
[08:14] <BodOmLaW> i dont recomend jesus to anyone
[08:14] <overclucker> lol
[08:14] <BodOmLaW> he was a jew after all
[08:14] <bod_> if were all gods children,.,. whats so special about jesus
[08:14] <BodOmLaW> lol
[08:14] <bod_> BodOmLaW, that will get you banned!
[08:15] <BodOmLaW> jesus is his own father
[08:15] <overclucker> lol
[08:15] <BodOmLaW> im sorry it was a joke
[08:15] <seacat> BodOmLaW, But not funny.
[08:15] <BodOmLaW> a distastfull one
[08:15] <seacat> BodOmLaW, And very far off topic
[08:15] <bod_> BodOmLaW, just bear in mind that some people are not as laid back s you, and might take offense by some remarks like that
[08:15] <overclucker> actually i kinda find that humorous
[08:16] <bod_> overclucker, still offensive though
[08:16] <speeddemon8803> !off-topic
[08:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:16] <seacat> Religion is taken serious by many many good people.
[08:17] <speeddemon8803> This is in fact a Ubuntu Help room...not a general chat ;)
[08:17] <BodOmLaW> good perhaps but ignorant
[08:17] <BodOmLaW> actually
[08:17] <BodOmLaW> i take it seriously
[08:17] <BodOmLaW> but im atheist
[08:17] <BodOmLaW> islam scares the hell out of me
[08:18] <seacat> The supernatural is my most favorite subject and I would be glad to discuss it with anyone that wants, but just not here.
[08:18] <BodOmLaW> and fundamentalis christian
[08:18] <BodOmLaW> s
[08:18] <bod_> BodOmLaW, this has been !ot for a while,. please stop now
[08:18] <tokok> BodOmLaW: allah akbar!
[08:18] <BodOmLaW> sorry
[08:18] <speeddemon8803> I am going to ask that we cease this conversation and bring it elsewhere :)
[08:18] <BodOmLaW> lol
[08:18] <Carbonflux> just come to #politics
[08:18] <Carbonflux> people are always talking about this stuff in there
[08:18] <Carbonflux> it gets very "messy"
[08:18] <bod_> !ot
[08:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:18] <BodOmLaW> gtg
[08:19] <bod_> bye
[08:19] <speeddemon8803> im sorry...i let it go long enough...couldnt take more
[08:19] <overclucker> soo, how about them diodes ..  .
[08:19] <bod_> speeddemon8803, i no,. cheers for shoutin,.lol,.
[08:19] <terje__> 1
[08:19] <Carbonflux> has anyone played around with running Wine of a native XP partition in 7.10 now that NTFS read/write is released ?
[08:19] <Carbonflux> off*
[08:20] <AnRkey> i have a share mounted with SMBfs. Whenever the server becomes unavailable, nautilus hangs and I have to "sudo umount /media/sharename -f" and then I remount my shares with "sudo mount -a"
[08:20] <AnRkey> is there no easier way to do this?
[08:20] <speeddemon8803> Funny thing is, is that im not even a member of this team, im beginner forum lol
[08:20] <travis_> No dice... I wonder if I'm working at the right thing
[08:20] <speeddemon8803> dont mean i wont step in when needed
[08:20] <AnRkey> or is there a way to allow for some small margin of error?
[08:21] <bod_> speeddemon8803, im just a volunteer,. helping out
[08:21] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, well, there is the process that happens when you mount a CD automaticly
[08:21] <speeddemon8803> me too :)
[08:21] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, so, it Can be done on some level
[08:21] <bod_> ;)
[08:21] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, I just don't know how
[08:22] <travis_> So, if I drag a window up and down the workspace, things look fine. Left and right, the edges break. What is going on?
[08:22] <bod_> anyway im off guys,. cya later
[08:23] <speeddemon8803> thats a compiz thing travis, sounds like your card cant handle something
[08:23] <speeddemon8803> mine does that too
[08:24] <travis_> speeddemon8803: compiz is not running. Just metacity
[08:24] <speeddemon8803> hmm..
[08:24] <terje__> try typing alt+F2 compiz
[08:25] <travis_> terje__: My card is blacklisted against compiz...
[08:26] <travis_> I can get it to run by ignoring errors, but that is just to say that isn't the problem, I don't think
[08:27] <Carbonflux> what driver are you using travis_ ?
[08:27] <gpsock> Hi, everybody, gassho :--)
[08:27] <travis_> Carbonflux: intel
[08:28] <Carbonflux> so you are using the vesa driver ?
[08:28] <gpsock> Sorry, wrong room...
[08:28] <travis_> Carbonflux: What is the best way to check?
[08:29] <Carbonflux> System->Administration->Screens and Graphics
[08:29] <Carbonflux> then click the graphics card tab
[08:30] <travis_> Carbonflux: Yes, VESA Driver (generic)
[08:31] <Carbonflux> well, you can try a different driver
[08:31] <Carbonflux> if you want
[08:31] <Carbonflux> kind of hard to debug a issue like this, it sounds like something is corrupt tho
[08:32] <Carbonflux> there are several intel chip-sets listed in the list of graphics cards
[08:32] <Carbonflux> if one matches try that
[08:32] <Carbonflux> or try VGA
[08:32] <Carbonflux> !enter | Carbonflux
[08:33] <Carbonflux> hm, heh, there was one that tells you not you use the enter key so much
[08:33] <AnRkey> Carbonflux, so...
[08:33] <devilsadvocate> is it possible to mount one folder onto another?
[08:34] <seacat> devilsadvocate, You mean to link one to another?
[08:34] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, so I think in theory its possible to do what you want, might be kind of hard to format a google search line for it tho
[08:34] <jegggg> I want to enable DVD Playblack (encrypted) in Ubuntu, but it is illegal in the US. I have bought the computer with windows vista and it plays these dvds, So would it be illegal if I download libdvdcss? I bought the license to be able to play in Windows, dont I?
[08:34] <devilsadvocate> seacat, i need a mount. not justa symlink
[08:34] <Carbonflux> !dvd
[08:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:34] <travis_> Carbonflux: I understand. This is a fresh install. Thanks
[08:34] <seacat> devilsadvocate,   You can  mount a device to a mount point, which would be a directory on the filesystem.
[08:34] <w0t> how do i find my local ip from the terminal?
[08:35] <devilsadvocate> seacat, i know that. i need to mount one folder of an already mounted filesystem into another folder on the root filesystem
[08:35] <Carbonflux> travis_, playing around with the driver is what I would try, sound kind of low level whats happening, if its not a composite manager it seems like its the xserver or the driver.
[08:36] <tokok> w0t: ifconfig
[08:36] <w0t> thanks
[08:36] <seacat> devilsadvocate,   Mount one folder into another?   Not sure....????
[08:36] <w0t> almost ipconfig then
[08:37] <w0t> is it eth0, eth1 or lo?
[08:37] <devilsadvocate> i used to do it earlier somehow. cant find out how :\
[08:37] <w0t> :o
[08:37] <seacat> devilsadvocate, You can't mount something that is already mounted.  You mount devices, not directories.
[08:37] <Carbonflux> jegggg, it just says its "encrypted" the issue is open source and licensing which is why Ubuntu does not ship by default with the ability to play commercial DVDs, once you follow the guides for install the right packages it works great tho
[08:37] <devilsadvocate> seacat, mount --bind is supposed to work , from what i read
[08:38] <seacat> devilsadvocate, You are using wrong language, I think.  Try to explain with different terms.
[08:38] <Carbonflux> a mount point is arbitrary
[08:38] <Carbonflux> you link a mount point with a device
[08:38] <seacat> devilsadvocate, see   man mount
[08:38] <lolmaus> Hello. I've just installed Kubuntu on a separate machine at home. My aim is to get familiar with Linux. I've obtained some basic Linux skills (on Slackware) and i'm a very advanced Windows user. Are there any docs/howtos/manuals for advanced users trying Ubuntu as a first Linux? I don't want to read about how to set focus, etc.
[08:39] <devilsadvocate> seacat, I need a folder outside a chroot to accessible inside a chroot. The normal way of doing that seems to be to mount the external (to the chroot) onto a folder inside using mount --bind
[08:39] <blades> Hey guy dont u think vista rocks
[08:39] <Carbonflux> I have not installed Vista yet blades
[08:39] <seacat> devilsadvocate, Yes, you are correct.   "it is possible to remount part of the file  hierarchy somewhere else. The call is  mount --bind olddir newdir"
[08:40] <Kevin`> I like ubuntu more then vista
[08:40] <seacat> devilsadvocate, from man mount  ^^^^
[08:40] <AnRkey> Carbonflux, it's driving me nuts
[08:40] <blades> I think ubuntu sucks like crap
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> seacat, that isnt working. it says it cant find the listing on fstab and mtab, and refuses to do it. i tried that as root :\
[08:40] <AnRkey> I think i might just right a small script to do it and put a shortcut on my desktop for it
[08:40] <JackPhil> wine-0.9.54 emulate emule 0.48a failed
[08:40] <JackPhil> any help?
[08:41] <AnRkey> it would be nice to automate it though
[08:41] <tokok> blades: vista software raid0 - 60 Mb/s, ubuntu md0 - 125Mb/s, read speed. whats crap?
[08:41] <AnRkey> thanks anyhoo Carbonflux
[08:41] <seacat> The entire file hierarchy including submounts is attached a second place using mount --rbind olddir newdir
[08:41] <blades> COMPIZ sucks WINDOWS aero roks
[08:42] <bullgard4> "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L localhost -U%" functions. But "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L Amilo7600; Password: ;session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" not. How can I get rid of this error message?
[08:42] <seacat> blades, What is Windows aero?
[08:42] <mkquist> blades: trolling are u?
[08:42] <devilsadvocate> seacat,  mount: can't find /media/extstorage/xyz in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab --- same with rbind
[08:42] <snorkel> blades is drunk
[08:42] <blades> IT is the awesome graphics features in vista
[08:43] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, you still here ?
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> seacat, guess i'll try adding to fstab and try
[08:43] <Carbonflux> AnRkey, open up synaptic package manager and search for autofs
[08:43] <seacat> "Note that the filesystem mount options will remain the same as those on the  original  mount  point,  and  cannot  be changed by passing the -o  option along with --bind/--rbind."
[08:43] <blades> im dunk
[08:43] <mkquist> blades: sounds like it, won't be welcome here much I'm sure... But, fire away I guess...  Or maybe the #windows channel is more your speed.  You can add to the pointless chatter there.
[08:43] <AnRkey> Carbonflux, thanks
 is the windows key right?
[08:44] <Carbonflux> hope it works :)
[08:44] <KemrinH> Blades, why have you become drunk?
[08:44] <snorkel> cwillu: yes
[08:44] <Carbonflux> yes cwillu
 is the other one
[08:44] <seacat> blades, Ok, thank you for the info.  But, if you are drunk, it would be best to just lurk.
[08:44] <cwillu> I'm having difficulty getting any key bound to it
[08:44] <cwillu> I keep getting super+L, regardless of what key I press
[08:44] <cwillu> on three different machines :/
[08:45] <KemrinH> Don't you know that typing while intoxicated is illegal?
[08:45] <GranitRock> Hello guys
[08:45] <tanner> KemrinH: ssshhh, don't give the prudes any more ideas on laws to pass..
[08:45] <Carbonflux> cwillu, heh, I don't have a clue, something must be overriding later in the chain I guess
[08:45] <mkquist> KemrinH: lol, like that line...
[08:45] <GranitRock> How can i install Ubuntu 7.10 in textmode from Live CD?
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> GranitRock, I'm not certain about it, but afaik that isnt possible
[08:46] <cwillu> GranitRock, how much time are you trying to save?
[08:46] <blades> hello recently i have experienced a few minor difficulties withe User Account Control on Windows Vista does anyone have and advice on what i should do?
[08:46] <cwillu> blades, wrong channel I think
[08:46] <snorkel> blades: goto windows channel
[08:46] <dgjones> blades, you need to join ##windows for windows problems
[08:46] <GranitRock> cwillu: what i'm trying to save?
[08:47] <cwillu> GranitRock, you can do it, but you'd need to be intimately familiar with how live cd's are created, how harddrives are laid out, etc
[08:47] <tokok> blades: try to open cmd and write "format c:"
[08:47] <seacat> GranitRock, You will need the alternate CD
[08:47] <Carbonflux> blades, ya and after that install Ubuntu
[08:47] <cwillu> GranitRock, i.e., if you have to ask, then you really want to get the alternate install cd
[08:47] <blades> what is format c
[08:47] <GranitRock> i know it
[08:47] <mkquist> well, at least he admits to being drunk...  I guess we have all done silly things like that.
[08:47] <cwillu> tokok, none of that
[08:47] <cwillu> blades, go to ##windows please
[08:47] <tokok> blades: if that dosent work, load from ubuntu live cd and format drives with gparted
[08:48] <cwillu> blades, this isn't a vista support channel
[08:48] <GranitRock> but i want do it because i have a problem when try start Ubuntu in normal mode
[08:48] <blades> ok im formatting c now its at 5 percent
[08:48] <Carbonflux> !lart blades
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart blades - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <Carbonflux> heh
[08:48] <blades> now its at 7
[08:48] <dgjones> GranitRock, you'd be better downloading the alternate cd to install in text mode, that uses that as default
[08:48] <cwillu> aha.  What's the problem you're having when you boot ubuntu?  (won't have anything to do with vista access controls if ubuntu itself doesn't run)
[08:48] <dgjones> !alternate > GranitRock
[08:49] <blades> now its at 13
[08:49] <snorkel> shut up blades
[08:49] <GranitRock> When i start
[08:49] <GranitRock> it
[08:49] <blades> r u sure this will wok
[08:49] <blades> work
[08:49] <GranitRock> *Start common unix printing system: cupsd
[08:49] <GranitRock> not loading
[08:50] <tokok> blades: well, if it isnt, i said use ubuntu live cd :)
[08:50] <Carbonflux> blades, that command is a basicly a universal fix for all windows related issues
[08:50] <GranitRock> i tryed rename it
[08:50] <GranitRock> to K19cupsys
[08:50] <seacat> !alternate | GranitRock
[08:50] <ubotu> GranitRock: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[08:50] <GranitRock> i have unlim
[08:50] <GranitRock> 64
[08:50]  * Carbonflux does not think anyone could Really be drunk enough to format their c drive tho
[08:51] <blades> WOW thats awesome u guys rok its at 32 percent
[08:51] <GranitRock> it's so difficult download alternative CD for me
[08:51] <seacat> GranitRock, You are sending fragments that are hard to understand.
[08:51] <mkquist> funny, blades is in ##windows doing the same..
[08:52] <GranitRock> Ыщккнб Шэт Кгыышфт=)
[08:52] <GranitRock> Sorry
[08:52] <GranitRock> I'm Russian
[08:52] <quux> Fart_: did you get a message from 'angelinaJolie26' on join?
[08:52] <tokok> GranitRock: this is excuses you
[08:52] <seacat> GranitRock, Ok, very well, we will try to understand.
[08:52] <zhangwei> 大家好阿
[08:52] <GranitRock> ok
[08:53] <seacat> GranitRock, You have 64 bit processor?
[08:53] <GranitRock> when i start
[08:53] <GranitRock> yes
[08:53] <GranitRock> and i use 64-bit ubuntu
[08:53] <mkquist> quux: wut os are u using?  just curious.  didnt get the message...
[08:53] <quux> mkquist: multiple OS's
[08:53] <GranitRock> i have integrated videocard
[08:53] <quux> brb
[08:53] <seacat> GranitRock, That is ok, that you have 64 bit processor, but no need to install the 64bit version of Ubuntu.
[08:53] <nemilar> !flash
[08:53] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[08:54] <tokok> GranitRock: better join #ubuntu-ru
[08:54] <GranitRock> i were install it
[08:54] <blades> 58 percent
[08:54] <GranitRock> i know about this channel
[08:54] <seacat> GranitRock, As to your original question, you might need to download the alternate ISO in order to complete the install.
[08:55] <GranitRock> yes
[08:55] <GranitRock> but i saw
[08:55] <seacat> GranitRock, And just stick with i386
[08:55] <mkquist> btw, 'said this once before, but wth' blades is trolling both channels being insulting to both
[08:55] <GranitRock> that it's so difficult!
[08:55] <GranitRock> i tryed i386
[08:55] <GranitRock> it's has this problem too
[08:56] <dgjones> !offtopic > blades
[08:56] <tokok> mkquist: does he saying compiz rules in windows channel?
[08:56] <Carbonflux> I have tried both on a amd 64 machine, the performance difference btw 64 and 32 bit are barely noticeable really
[08:56] <cwillu> BAAAAAH
[08:56] <seacat> mkquist, Thank you for the information, but we are more interested in Ubuntu  here :)
[08:56] <Fart_> hey there, I got ubuntu on IDE disc. Rest of the data is on a raid 0 - two SATA II discs. I cant find them, is there any utility or driver to make it working?
[08:56] <xzv> 8 kb/s internet speed is very slowly for downloading ISOs...
[08:56] <GranitRock> yes
[08:56] <mkquist> seacat: i know, just for the info... in case anyone baits
[08:56] <GranitRock> i agree with xzv
[08:56] <Carbonflux> still, I ended up installing the amd 64 build
[08:57] <cwillu> Carbonflux, snorkel, Works fine, but the gconf setting for tab is case sensitive (despite what the description of the key says):  it must be "Tab"
[08:57] <Carbonflux> ok
[08:57] <Carbonflux> heh, good to know
[08:57] <blades> 79 percent
[08:57] <bahman> Hi everybody
[08:58]  * Carbonflux waves at bahadunn 
[08:58] <blades> hi bahman do u like windows
[08:58]  * Carbonflux waves at bahman 
[08:58] <bahman> I try to use XChat in new installed Ubuntu
[08:58] <Carbonflux> it automatically connects you to this channel
[08:58] <Carbonflux> welcome
[08:58]  * cwillu super-tabs to the next workspace
[08:59] <Carbonflux> really it maps into freenode
[08:59]  * cwillu celebrates.  Yay!!!
[08:59]  * Carbonflux cheers at cwillu 
[08:59] <bahman> blades what is it?! Carbonflux?!
[08:59] <snorkel> welcome bahman ubuntu virgin
[08:59] <tokok> blades: something is wrong, problem should have been already fixed, i think the only way is to use special windows-on-HDD destroyer devices
[08:59] <bahman> Thanks snorkel
[09:00] <cwillu> blades, seriously, enough
[09:00] <Carbonflux> bahman, freenode is a epic network of great people working together in perfect bliss for the good of all humanity
[09:00] <cwillu> !windows
[09:00] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[09:00] <VvWolverinevV> hi, what's the difference between fuseblk and ntfs-3g??
[09:00] <Ububegin> lets say I do export AXISCPP=/usr/local/axiscpp_deploy or sumtin... how do i check that these variable is set or not...
[09:00] <bahman> snorkel could you tell me which chat program is the best for IRC?!
[09:00] <cwillu> VvWolverinevV, ping
[09:00] <woodwizzle> I am trying to get a 3 monitor setup running. I have 2 going fine. I have the 3rd plugged into a PCI card and it isn't working
[09:01] <snorkel> bahman: i use xchat
[09:01] <cwillu> woodwizzle, multiple physical cards is a pretty tricky, the hardware really needs to be known good
[09:01] <Carbonflux> ya, xchat is good
[09:01] <snorkel> bahman: check #ubunutu-bots
[09:02] <woodwizzle> cwillu: the main card is a nvidia 8600gt. The other is also an nvidia card, not sure the exact model
[09:02] <cwillu> woodwizzle, how does it die?
[09:02] <cwillu> woodwizzle, pastebin me your xorg.conf
[09:02] <Carbonflux> woodwizzle, did you try using sudo nvidia-settings to generate a xorg.conf file ?
[09:02] <Ububegin> lets say I do [export AXISCPP=/usr/local/axiscpp_deploy] or sumtin... how do i check that these variable is set or not...
[09:02] <cwillu> woodwizzle, both fairly recent though?
[09:03] <_ruben> Ububegin: echo $EXISCPP
[09:03] <woodwizzle> cwillu: it doesn't die. It just doesn't get anything on that screen
[09:03] <_ruben> Ububegin: without the typos
[09:03] <VvWolverinevV> cwillu: do you know the difference between fuseblk and ntfs-3g?
[09:03] <woodwizzle> cwillu: its not like a rivatnt or anyhing.
[09:03] <woodwizzle> Carbonflux: no i hadn't tried that
[09:04] <bahman> thanks snorkel, but how could I copy your name, ex. when I want to say it in any way?!
[09:04] <bahman> Carbonflux Thanks
[09:04] <cwillu> VvWolverinevV, off the top of my head, I believe fuseblk is the userspace filesystem api, which ntfs-3g (among other projects) uses so they don't have to mess around with kernel modules
[09:04] <woodwizzle> cwillu: looks like itsa NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]
[09:04] <cwillu> woodwizzle, k, get me that xorg.conf file
[09:04] <cwillu> !pastebin
[09:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:05] <Carbonflux> woodwizzle, the gui in ubuntu is bugged right now for setting up nvidia cards, it might be in the driver, not sure, need to use the nvidia-settings program or  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit the file by hand
[09:06] <bahman> ChanServ thanks
[09:06] <Carbonflux> bahman, just for future reference, ChanServ is a bot
[09:06] <snorkel> bahman: Chanserv is not a person
[09:07] <Carbonflux> :)
[09:07] <Ububegin> _ruben : In one termimal, {nothing was printed} while in another terminal , {the directory path was printed}...care to explain why... tks
[09:08] <Ububegin> For the rest, the qn is export AXISCPP=/usr/local/axiscpp_deploy after i do this... then echo $AXISCPP ...
[09:08] <Carbonflux> heh, I guess one would need 2 device and 3 monitor sections
[09:08] <Salaman> bahman welcome to freenode
[09:09] <woodwizzle> cwillu: http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2546/
[09:09] <woodwizzle> Carbonflux: yeah its a strange usecase no doubt. But I had the card and I had the monitors so I figured why not =)
[09:10] <woodwizzle> I shuold point out that the 2 axillary monitors are EVGA meaning they support upto 1024x768
[09:10] <Carbonflux> woodwizzle, did you google for it? I have seen a lot of threads about it in the ubuntu forums
[09:10] <Carbonflux> well, you might have detection problem
[09:10] <Carbonflux> for the horz and vert rates
[09:10] <cwillu> Carbonflux, he's trying to get more than 2 displays though
[09:10] <Carbonflux> but there are ways to address that
[09:10] <cwillu> not sure if you got that
[09:10] <bahman> Carbonflux, snorkel and also Salaman thanks... could you tell me how could I copy your name here instead of type it?!
[09:11] <Carbonflux> cwillu, ya thats what I mean, seems like more then a few people want to do it
[09:11] <cwillu> woodwizzle, how much to you care about 3d accel?
[09:11] <Carbonflux> cwillu, I know I have 2 on all my machines
[09:11] <woodwizzle> Carbonflux: No I didn't ...srry I know its bad ettiquite.
[09:11] <Carbonflux> heh
[09:11]  * cwillu has 5 monitors on his desk ;p
[09:11] <Carbonflux> woodwizzle, well its better to ask a live person
[09:11] <_ruben> Ububegin: the echo will only work in the current shell .. if you'd add it to your .bashrc for example, it'll be available in all *new* bash login shells
[09:11] <snorkel> bahman: use the tab key
[09:12] <woodwizzle> cwillu: I care deeply about 3D acceleration. But only on the primary monitor. The other 2 I won't be gaming with. Afterall its a 440mx =)
[09:12] <Carbonflux> cwillu, heh, well I just don't have enough monitors, i do have one machine with a 6150 on the mb and a 8600 in a pci express slot, I did research it and found a lot of threads about 3+ monitor issues
[09:12] <cwillu> woodwizzle, ok, well, lets get a working config, we can fall back if 3d accel won't work
[09:12] <Ububegin> So I just type export $AXIS =/usr/local/axis ... in the bashrc file...
[09:12] <Carbonflux> you can use twinview of you want 3D accel
[09:12] <cwillu> woodwizzle, (this would be your cue to save a copy of the xorg.conf file somewhere :p)
[09:12] <Carbonflux> twinview works good with compiz
[09:13] <Ububegin> _ruben: tks dude, for the timely help
[09:13] <Carbonflux> bahman, your welcome :)
[09:13] <yokobr> hey guys, everytime that i run virtualbox, i have to open the terminal and do sudo chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv. How can i make it auto?
[09:13] <_ruben> Ububegin: correct
[09:13] <woodwizzle> cwillu: check!
[09:14] <cwillu> woodwizzle, pastebin: lspci | grep -i vga
[09:15] <lollo> is this chat there's only 1 op ? Oo
[09:15] <lollo> even bot .. ?
[09:16] <Carbonflux> lollo, people don't stay in op mode
[09:16] <lollo> and if someone is a troll ?
[09:16] <Carbonflux> lollo, they only switch to it when they need to do something
[09:16] <lollo> how can u ban him ?
[09:16] <woodwizzle> cwillu, http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2547/
[09:16] <Carbonflux> lollo, you are going to try it and find out right ?
[09:16] <cwillu> lollo, there's a magic word to get about 30 ops here in 5 seconds or less :p
[09:16] <lollo> lol no :D
[09:16] <PKdoR> how can I ad a font I downloaded from gnome-look?
[09:17] <bullgard4> "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L localhost -U%" functions. But "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L Amilo7600; Password: ;session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" not. How can I get rid of this error message?
[09:17] <Carbonflux> lollo, if you want to troll go to #politics there are no ops there, only /ignore
[09:17] <lollo> nono i don't wanna troll but i noticed that there was only 1 op :s
[09:18] <cwillu> woodwizzle, open an editor on your xorg.conf
[09:18] <lollo> carbon can u switch to op ? Oo
[09:18] <lousygarua> i installed kubuntu on virtualbox, but i can only run it at 800x600 resolution, and it doesn't seem to listen to the xorg.conf i configured for it :( can anyone help?
[09:18] <cwillu> woodwizzle, find the three device sections
[09:19] <Carbonflux> lollo, its a freenode thing, people only op-up when they do something
[09:19] <cwillu> woodwizzle, got all that?
[09:19] <rodafr> Hi. I'm having some problems with my wireless network interface. Can anyone help?
[09:19] <woodwizzle> cwillu: check!
[09:19] <lollo> but if someone does something like flood they'll kik him ( i hope ) ..
[09:20] <jimcooncat> lousygarua: I haven't tried 'buntu in vituralbox, but I believe you have to install a helper app to add a graphics card emulator
[09:20] <Carbonflux> lollo, well, there is auto kicking for flooding
[09:20] <jimcooncat> lousygarua: that's what you do for winders in vb
[09:20] <lollo> oh okyz , thx carbon kiss
[09:20] <cwillu> woodwizzle, the one with identifier "nVidia Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[09:20] <Carbonflux> :)
[09:20] <snorkel> does anybody recommend a good ubuntu blog to follow most of them suck
[09:20] <lousygarua> jimcooncat > hmm that makes sense i'll check out the vbox website. what's winders?
[09:21] <cwillu> woodwizzle, change the BusID to "PCI:5:6:0"
[09:21] <bullgard4> man smbclient writes: "Most diagnostics issued by the client are logged in a specified log file. The log file  name  is  specified  at compile time, but may be overridden on the command line." What is the filename of this log in Ubuntu 7.10?
[09:21] <jimcooncat> lousygarua: sorry i meant windows
[09:22] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Check. Thats the PCI card right?
[09:22] <cwillu> yes
[09:22] <lollo> does someone know a good race game against other players for ununtu ?
[09:22] <cwillu> woodwizzle, and then in the ServerLayout section
[09:22] <cwillu> woodwizzle, below Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
[09:22] <lousygarua> jimcooncat winders sounds cooler than windows ;)
[09:23] <cwillu> woodwizzle, add Screen 2 "Default Screen" RightOf "Screen1"
[09:23] <woodwizzle> lollo, penguin racer and torcs are the first 2 to come to mind, but I don't know if they are multiplayer
[09:23] <Carbonflux> lollo, there is a game called Torc's, its a car race thing, but really, Ubuntu is not much of a gamers platform, which is not to say it does not have them, but its not windows
[09:23] <cwillu> woodwizzle, you _might_ need to enable Xinerama, but don't do it yet
[09:23] <woodwizzle> cwillu: actually the pci monitor is the left most monitor
[09:23] <cwillu> woodwizzle, :p
[09:23] <cwillu> don't get ahead of me :p
[09:23] <Carbonflux> AlienArena is a Quake III clone also
[09:23] <woodwizzle> the primary monitor is the center one
[09:23] <Carbonflux> that is multiplayer
[09:23] <cwillu> woodwizzle, we'll worry about the orientations later :p
[09:23] <woodwizzle> ok
[09:24] <cwillu> woodwizzle, are you talking from a different computeR?
[09:25] <devilsadvocate> Carbonflux, there are some really fun games on uuntu
[09:25] <woodwizzle> cwillu: no I'm not :(
[09:25] <Carbonflux> ya, sorry I did not mean to imply there were not devilsadvocate :)
[09:25] <Carbonflux> there are a lot of them
[09:25] <Carbonflux> and you can use wine to play more
[09:25] <cwillu> woodwizzle, how comfortable are you moving around in the command line?
[09:26] <woodwizzle> cwillu: I've fairly comfortable. I've used gentoo for a few years =)
[09:26] <devilsadvocate> and Quake4 runs natively on linux :P
[09:26] <Carbonflux> :)
[09:26] <Carbonflux> yup
[09:26] <rodafr> hello
[09:26] <Carbonflux> I have tried it even
[09:26] <cwillu> woodwizzle, oh goodie :)
[09:26] <cwillu> woodwizzle, so you can find your way back if that breaks X?
[09:26] <Carbonflux> in fact, maybe I will try it on my amd 64 machine
[09:27] <woodwizzle> cwillu: sure thing
[09:27] <Carbonflux> thanks for reminding me devilsadvocate :)
[09:27] <PKdoR> what VM software would you guys recommend for LNX?
[09:28] <tokok> PKdoR: god is only true answer to all your questions
[09:28] <PKdoR> jaja
[09:28] <cwillu> vmware, qemu, etc (presuming that LNX is linux and not some other unix'y thing)
[09:28] <PKdoR> no ithink its 42 or google
[09:29] <Carbonflux> cwillu, so you don't think twinview is a good idea for a 3 monitor setup ?
[09:29] <cwillu> Carbonflux, twinview won't work for a three monitor iirc
[09:29] <PKdoR>  how about Virtualbox? I used that on windows and also VMware workstation/player
[09:29] <Carbonflux> ah ok
[09:29] <jimcooncat> lousygarua: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/13/installing-guest-additions-for-ubuntu-guests-in-virtualbox/
[09:29] <Carbonflux> cwillu, thanks I was curious
[09:29] <cwillu> Carbonflux, it works by sharing the framebuffer of a single card
[09:29] <Carbonflux> right
[09:30] <Carbonflux> it works great for two
[09:30] <woodwizzle> cwillu, should I ctrl-alt-backspace now?
[09:30] <lousygarua> jimcooncat > cool thanks a lot!
[09:30] <Carbonflux> cwillu, with two xscreens you only get accel on the main one ?
[09:30] <Carbonflux> or three xscreens*
[09:30] <jimcooncat> lousygarua: interested in how it goes, buzz me if I'm still around please
[09:31] <woodwizzle> also I'm not against 3d accel on 3 screens. That would be tits! I'd prefer if all my windows wobbled.
[09:31] <cwillu> Carbonflux, xinerama is generally unaccelerated
[09:31] <cwillu> woodwizzle, yep, go ahead
[09:32] <cwillu> Carbonflux, there's a couple libs that can multiplex opengl (aka, provide glx) across multiple heads (even across the network)
[09:32] <cwillu> but it's not trivial to setup the last time I tried
[09:32] <hibbert> does anyone know if in ubuntu 8.04 the wlan drivers are already included????
[09:32] <cwillu> ('trivial' in the sense of 'working without changing source code')
[09:33] <cwillu> hibbert, anything that was included in 7.10 will probably work in 8.04, plus a few more
[09:33] <Carbonflux> thanks for the info cwillu :)
[09:33] <hibbert> cwillu yes but before some weeks the drivers were not included so i ask if the are included now ;)
[09:34] <cwillu> hibbert, sorry, I don't understand
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> How can i revert my gcc4 to gcc3?
[09:35] <hibbert> i installed the beta of ubuntu 8.04 and my fritz wlan stick didnt work so i found out that the kernel module is not included atm .... now i wonder if its included now
[09:35] <cwillu> hibbert, ah
[09:35] <cwillu> hibbert, nothing you see in 8.04 is final yet, things are constantly breaking and in flux
[09:36] <cwillu> aka, don't write a review about 8.04, and don't trust any reviews you read
[09:36] <dgjones> hibbert, you might be able to find out if you ask in #ubuntu+1 thats where the testing queries about hardy are being asked
[09:37] <cwillu> I'm guessing woodwizzle's config isn't quite working yet :p
[09:37] <hibbert> ok thx
[09:37] <hibbert> bye
[09:38] <Erealz> those anyone use kismet
[09:39] <woodwizzle> cwillu: no dice. My xorg didn't crash, but still no signal to that monitor. (flashing LED)
[09:39] <cwillu> woodwizzle, just the one monitor?
[09:40] <cwillu> i.e., the others worked?
[09:40] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Yeah, everything on the 8600gt is working like before
[09:41] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to get rid of gcc 4 and install 3?
[09:41] <cwillu> woodwizzle, kill all the modelines and the sync/refresh lines from Generic Monitor, and in the "Default screen", delete the virtual line, and set the modes to "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:41] <tokok> Flynsarmy: use old distro
[09:41] <cwillu> woodwizzle, and retry it
[09:43] <Flynsarmy> tokok: There's no way of doing it with apt?
[09:43] <seacat> apt-get remove gcc-4.1 ;  apt-get install gcc-3.3
[09:43] <Flynsarmy> seacat: Thanks
[09:44] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Generic Monitor is the primary display.
[09:44] <cwillu> woodwizzle, no
[09:44] <seacat> Flynsarmy,  apt-get remove gcc-4.1 ;  apt-get install gcc-3.3
[09:44] <cwillu> I meant, the screen that's called "Default Screen"
[09:44] <seacat> NP
[09:44] <woodwizzle> oh ok, i getcha
[09:44] <cwillu> woodwizzle, screen0 and screen1 are the working screens right now
[09:46] <Flynsarmy> seacat: I did that but now when i type 'gcc' i get: bash: /usr/bin/gcc: No such file or direcctory
[09:46] <woodwizzle> cwillu: ok, ctrl alt backspace?
[09:46] <plectrum> hello, the notification area applet is shown at my second screen, but applets like pidgin or nm-applet are not available. Has anybody a solution?
[09:46] <cwillu> Flynsarmy, in synaptic, check the properties of gcc-3.3, and find out where it puts things
[09:46] <sgbirch> What is the difference an ubuntu server disk and the "Install a server" option on the alternate disk?
[09:46] <cwillu> woodwizzle, give it a shot
[09:47] <cwillu> !server
[09:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[09:49] <x_> i need help ... ... ... in BIOS , Num-Lock is on , but in ubuntu loading it is off , how i can turn it on automatically ?!  is there some Command in terminal can do that ?!
[09:49] <cwillu> x_, there's a gnome option, give me a asec
[09:49] <x_> ok  :-)
[09:49] <cwillu> !numlock
[09:49] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[09:50] <cwillu> there you go :p
[09:50] <x_> thaaaanks :-)
[09:50] <woodwizzle> Still 2 outta 3
[09:50] <woodwizzle> http://www.foresightlinux.org/paste/2549/ <-- my xorg.conf so far
[09:51] <Flynsarmy> cwillu: there is a /usr/bin/gcc-3.3
[09:51] <cwillu> Flynsarmy, okay, try calling it that
[09:53] <cwillu> woodwizzle, can you pastebin /var/log/xorg.log.0?
[09:53] <x_> cwillu how i can edit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default ?!
[09:53] <lollo> a good mmorpg for ubuntu ?
[09:53] <cwillu> lollo, world of warcraft works
[09:54] <lollo> but i've to pay every mounth
[09:54] <gad0> whats the command to exit xorg after running *Xorg* command ?
[09:54] <lollo> i've not so much time to play
[09:54] <woodwizzle> cwillu: no such file :(
[09:54] <cwillu> gad0, ctrl+alt+backspace works, or switching to the vterm you used to run it and stopping it with ctrl+c, or opening a terminal and running killall Xorg
[09:54] <mavi-> gad0: ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:55] <cwillu> woodwizzle, k, look around in that folder, it'll be some name like that
[09:55] <woodwizzle> ahh my bad
[09:55] <woodwizzle> found it
[09:55] <lollo> however, cwillu i run it with wine ?
[09:55] <gad0> cwillu: thanks
[09:55] <cwillu> lollo, that's how I run it
[09:55] <lollo> okyz .. does it works well and clean ?
[09:56] <stowaway> gday.. does any1 know how i can get irc on my mythbuntu box?
[09:56] <Daviey> stowaway: what irc client?
[09:56] <stowaway> i dont know. whats a good 1?
[09:56] <magowan> im getting a missing operating system after installing ubuntu7.10. if anyone here has a few minutes to help me out please pm me
[09:57] <Daviey> stowaway: depends on your preference, mine is irssi - others is xchat.. what are you using now?
[09:57] <cwillu> !warcraft | lollo
[09:57] <ubotu> lollo: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:57] <woodwizzle> cwillu: http://www.foresightlinux.org/paste/2550/
[09:57] <stowaway> im on a windows computer. mirc. got my mythbunu box next to me. Was thinking about xchat but it only had fedora linux 7 as a option. would that 1 work?
[09:57] <ganesh> package for anti-virus
[09:57] <lollo> thx cwillu kiss
[09:57] <stowaway> on mythbuntu
[09:58] <Daviey> stowaway: in the terminal type, sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:58] <dgjones> !virus | ganesh
[09:58] <ubotu> ganesh: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:58] <chimx> Hey guys, i have kind of a silly question.
[09:58] <Daviey> chimx: best not ask it then
[09:58] <stowaway> sweet thanks
[09:58] <chimx> ABC and Fox use some proprietary video client for streaming TV shows over the internet
[09:59] <chimx> any work around for that in linux
[09:59] <chimx> short of using windows firefox/flash through wine?
[09:59] <chimx> cause that chugs out with the video
[09:59] <cwillu> chimx, plain old flash doesn't work?
[09:59] <ganesh> ubotu, i want some anti-virus package for linux & to test it in my pc
[09:59] <chimx> no
[09:59] <chimx> it isn't a flash player
[09:59] <cwillu> chimx, if it's just blocking on the user-agent, install the user-agent-switcher plugin for firefox
[10:00] <stowaway2> wow that was too easy
[10:00] <stowaway2> thanks :)
[10:00] <magowan> i just installed ubuntu7.10. i chose to format over vista, but after ubuntu installs and i reboot i get a missing operating system message. any ideas on how to solve this?
[10:00] <dgjones> ganesh, ubotu is a bot, but you could look at clamav (thats the only one i can remember at the minute)
[10:00] <chimx> cwillu: i'll give it a shot, but i'm pessimistic... :P
[10:00] <ganesh> dgjones, thanks, if you know any please
[10:01] <stowaway2> is there an adp-get command for adobe reader?
[10:02] <woodwizzle> stowaway2 sudo apt-get install evince
[10:02] <plectrum> the notification area applet is shown on screen1, but applets like pidgin or nm-applet are not available
[10:02]  * cwillu can't imagine anybody actually _wanting_ to view fox material :p
[10:02] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: sudo apt-get install clamav
[10:02] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, ok thanks
[10:03] <stowaway2> where do i find all these commands on the net? do they have them on the proggies webpages or whatever?
[10:03] <woodwizzle> cwillu: I've given up TV. One of these monitors I'm hooking up is gonna stream Miro to me
[10:03] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, do you know the procedure how to test it
[10:03] <cwillu> woodwizzle, line 370 of the xorg paste
[10:04] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Ah, I need the legacy driver
[10:04] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: i never bothered to try, but the first thing i do when i install a new package is reading the man page
[10:04] <cwillu> woodwizzle, but I'm not sure if you can have both at the same time
[10:05] <overcluckerLIMBO> man clamav
[10:05] <cwillu> woodwizzle, and I don't know whether the nv driver will get along with the nvidia driver, even though they're not talking to the same cards
[10:05] <chimx> hmm.  it's trying to get me to re-d/l flash when i pretend to be IE cwillu
[10:05] <chimx> :/
[10:05] <chimx> windows flash
[10:05] <cwillu> woodwizzle, theoretically, seperate pci devices are supposed to work perfectly fine, but most video drivers don't agree :p
[10:05] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, afterinstalling the pkg i ran the command clamscan,it is not saying anything thatsy im asking wat to do
[10:06] <woodwizzle> cwillu: well all I can do is try
[10:06] <cwillu> chimx, what about pretending to be windows firefox?
[10:06] <cwillu> woodwizzle, try switching it to the nv driver just for that card
[10:06] <chimx> for that propietary video software i was talking about
[10:06] <cwillu> (the boardname is already nv, just change the driver)
[10:06] <chimx> you suggested user-agent-switcher
[10:06] <cwillu> chimx, what's the url?
[10:06] <chimx> abc.go.com
[10:07] <woodwizzle> cwillu: wouldn't it be better to see if I can install the legacy drivers alongside the regular drivers?
[10:07] <chimx> it looks like it is semi-flash based, but it won't let non windows/mac access it
[10:07] <chimx> I think fox uses it too
[10:07] <cwillu> woodwizzle, I'd try the open driver first, just because I have no idea how you'd specify a different nvidia driver
[10:07] <chimx> its a shame cause most TV stations are streaming video online now and making it nearly impossible for linux folk to us
[10:07] <chimx> as far as i can figure
[10:07] <L3ttuc3> how do i open another session inside a window, on the same desktop?
[10:08] <woodwizzle> cwillu: You're right. Synaptic says I must first remove the original driver
[10:08] <woodwizzle> ok, nv it is
[10:08] <cwillu> chimx, I can't even get the episodes, it blocks me because I'm in canada
[10:08] <chimx> oh
[10:08] <chimx> lol
[10:08] <chimx> :P
[10:08] <chimx> torrents it is!
[10:08] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: what does the manual say to do?
[10:08] <cwillu> chimx, but one of the user-agent-switcher options is 'firefox under windows'
[10:09] <chimx> right
[10:09] <Ububegin> tgif, bye bye.. i am off for the weekend..  Happy ubuntooing everyone.. :D
[10:09] <chimx> it thinks that flash isn't installed when i do that though
[10:09] <cwillu> ?
[10:09] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, the clamscan asking me to run with the option
[10:10] <uthpala> hi every one
[10:10] <bascule> if I want 10.0.0.[1-255] do I say 10.0.0.0/8 or 10.0.0.0/24 ?
[10:10] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, im not getting whether it is testing for its partiotion or taking care of other patition also
[10:10] <turkuamk> Hello. I installed the new Ubuntu, but it seems I cannot find the "remove icons from menu" option...
[10:10] <cwillu> turkuamk, right click, edit menu (on the menu button in the panel, not the menu itself)
[10:11] <Ne0> hi, im new to linux, can anyone tell where to get and how to install an icondock likte the mac OSX one?
[10:11] <shade052_> bascule: /24
[10:11] <woodwizzle> w00t! Progress!
[10:11] <_ruben> Ne0: look for kibadock (i think that's what you mean)
[10:11] <cwillu> Ne0, google, and look for whatever you find in add/remove or administration | synaptic
[10:11] <woodwizzle> nothing on that screen. But the LED is ON not blinking.
[10:11] <cwillu> Ne0, not sure of any names though :p
[10:11] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: clamscan –ri ––move=/tmp/virus /home/yourusername
[10:11] <cwillu> woodwizzle, lol
[10:11] <Ne0> ok thank you _ruben and cwillu
[10:11] <turkuamk> It gives me the option to chose the applications I want to show up to the menu itself, but nothing about the icons.
[10:11] <cwillu> woodwizzle, lets see the log
[10:12] <cwillu> turkuamk, oh, you just don't want the icons to show?
[10:12] <Micksa> wheee
[10:12] <turkuamk> Yes, exactly, just the name of the application.
[10:12] <cwillu> turkuamk, admin | preferences
[10:12] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, ok thanks i do now
[10:12] <Spartan-X> does anyone know how to bind a keyboard button to a shell script?
[10:12] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/2185
[10:12] <cwillu> turkuamk, and then interface | show icons in menus
[10:13] <Micksa> so I have installed vmware play on my gutsy i386 laptop, and I'm running a winxp vm on it, and the speed of everything is all weird. cursor blinks fast then slow, animations go crazy etc. anyone else had this problem or know a solution?
[10:13] <turkuamk> I don't have "preferences", in administration... :O
[10:13] <stowaway2> gday.. si there an apt-get command for Msn messenger?
[10:13] <kal_> hi all
[10:13] <cwillu> turkuamk, my bad:  system |preferences
[10:13] <turkuamk> I see, thanks.
[10:13] <woodwizzle> http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2551/
[10:14] <Spartan-X> does anyone know how to bind a keyboard button to a shell script?
[10:14] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, do you know any GUI format of antivirus in open source
[10:14] <Micksa> stowaway2: there isn't msn messenger for linux as such, but "apt-get install pidgin" does most of what msn messenger does
[10:15] <stowaway2> thanks..
[10:15] <x3lon> yop all
[10:15] <cwillu> Micksa, pidgin is already installed :p
[10:15] <tuntun> whats the sort order of file names in nautilus? eg: al,(a,ar,(a,ar ...wtf?
[10:15] <_ruben> ganesh: there's klamav, kde frontend for clamav
[10:15] <stowaway2> I knew it wouldnt be msn. but i meant the equliavent
[10:15] <stowaway2> is there a notepad proggie so i can record all these?
[10:15] <cwillu> stowaway, 7.10 right?
[10:15] <Micksa> oh right :)
[10:15] <ganesh> _ruben, i want in gnome
[10:15] <turkuamk> There is no "interfaces", there...
[10:15] <jrlenz> anyone here?
[10:15] <jrlenz> i would assume so if there are .... 1200 people here
[10:15] <stowaway2> yeah 7.1
[10:15] <jrlenz> oi, teh lag :(
[10:15] <_ruben> ganesh: clamtk might be worth a try then
[10:15] <woodwizzle> cwillu: No errors, but there are some warnings about the PCI 5:6 card
[10:15] <cwillu> stowaway, look at accessories  | text editor, or right click the panel, hit add applet, and add the stickynotes applet
[10:16] <ganesh> _ruben, k thanks
[10:16] <cwillu> stowaway, pidgin should already be installed (might be called gaim) under internet
[10:16] <x3lon> bonjour je cherche un peu d info aupres d une personne utilisant gusty ?
[10:16] <cwillu> turkuamk, which ubuntu are you running?  7.10?
[10:16] <turkuamk> Yes.
[10:16] <overcluckerLIMBO> ganesh: unless you are running a file/mail server for multiple users, antivirus apps have no practical use under linux
[10:16] <cwillu> woodwizzle, sorry, I missed your log there :p
[10:16] <jrlenz> anywho.... anyone know how to get the standard x11 fonts (e.g. misc) to work with gnome applications?  im running 7.10, and having issues with font configuration (i dont know where anything is unless i'm using fbsd) ;-p
[10:16] <woodwizzle> http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2551/
[10:16] <x3lon> lol pas un francais
[10:16] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, oh
[10:16] <kal_> si si mais débutant lool
[10:17] <x3lon> ok ok ^^
[10:17] <woodwizzle> cwillu: http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2551/ <-- forgot to put your name there
[10:17] <x3lon> je rame sur une fin de compil
[10:17] <jrlenz> specifically, i'd like to get the artwiz fonts to work with gnome-terminal and every howto i've seen is rather.... cryptic.
[10:17] <_ruben> !fr
[10:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:17] <cwillu> turkuamk, preferences, appearance, and then the interface tab?
[10:17] <x3lon> tu utilise gusty ?
[10:17] <x3lon> ty ok
[10:17] <kal_> merc ubotu
[10:17] <jimcooncat> Spartan-X: I think this works: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:17] <cwillu> woodwizzle, it looks like it's initializing it
[10:17] <ganesh> overcluckerLIMBO, ok, i dont know thatsy i said (oh-exclamation!)
[10:17] <kal_> x3lon ben a toute lol on a plus k'a y aller
[10:17] <turkuamk> Thanks! :)
[10:17] <x3lon> lol
[10:18] <overcluckerLIMBO> heh
[10:18] <cwillu> woodwizzle, still not working then?
[10:18] <tuntun> how can i force to nautilus NOT to ignore '(' when sorting by filename?
[10:18] <Erik1> weird thing: I developed trouble with debian etch: no graphics anymore, blank screen. reinstalling did not help. Not installed Ubuntu and that went flawlessly. Now before I decide to stay with Ubuntu and stop trying to get Debian working, what would be reasons to go Ubuntu (bedides no problems with install) ?
[10:19] <bullgard4> "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L localhost -U%" functions. But "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient -L Amilo7600; Password: ;session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" not. How can I get rid of this error message?
[10:19] <stf_> Hi. Is it safe to upgrade libc from 2.3.6 to 2.5 on Dapper Drake?
[10:19] <Erik1> Not = then
[10:19] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Yeah, nothing on that screen. The LED is on though and Xorg lets me move my mouse right of the rightmost screen (into the area that I cannot see I imagine) so X knows about the screen, but won't lemme see it
[10:19] <tuntun> how can i force to nautilus NOT to ignore brackets when sorting by filename?
[10:19] <tuntun> how can i force nautilus NOT to ignore brackets when sorting by filename?
[10:19] <woodwizzle> and I did test the monitor on my laptops vga output, so it does work
[10:19] <cwillu> tuntun, not sure you can, never noticed an option
[10:20] <cwillu> woodwizzle, hmm
[10:20] <bullgard4> man smbclient writes: "Most diagnostics issued by the client are logged in a specified log file. The log file  name  is  specified  at compile time, but may be overridden on the command line." What is the filename of this log in Ubuntu 7.10?
[10:20] <cwillu> woodwizzle, you're still running under that config right now?
[10:21] <cwillu> bullgard4, look at /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:21] <cwillu> bullgard4, I think they go into various places under /var/log/smb
[10:21] <tuntun> any option to get nautilus NOT to ignore brackets when sorting by filename?
[10:22] <woodwizzle> cwillu: yup
[10:22] <cwillu> woodwizzle, familiar with the new xrandr?
[10:22] <tuntun> These are the things I can do without...
[10:22] <woodwizzle> cwillu: nope
[10:22] <uocmo_cuatoi4> fgf
[10:22] <cwillu> pastebin xrandr --verbose
[10:23] <bullgard4> cwillu: You may be right. But I have got the impression that they are dspersed over various files in /var/lob/samba.
[10:23] <bullgard4> log
[10:23] <cwillu> bullgard4, yep;  something about per-host
[10:23] <tuntun> any option to get nautilus NOT to ignore brackets when sorting by filename?
[10:23] <tuntun> These are the things I can do without...
[10:23] <cwillu> bullgard4, look at the conf file though, it has a line for that already
[10:24] <cwillu> tuntun, looked at the keys in gconf-editor? if the option exists, it'll be there
[10:24] <tokok> btw sorting by type is broken... and its called final release
[10:24] <micos> ciao
[10:24] <micos> !list
[10:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:25] <woodwizzle> cwillu: I think xrandr --verbose only gives me info on the screen I run it from
[10:25] <cwillu> woodwizzle, could try DISPLAY=:0.1 xrandr --versose
[10:25] <cwillu> --verbose rather
[10:26] <ganesh> my smart card is not detecting
[10:27] <d4rk-w33p> salve a tutti
[10:28] <woodwizzle> cwillu: that works, but I think that is display 2 not display 3 that I'm getting info for
[10:28] <d4rk-w33p>  /join #ubuntu-it
[10:28] <woodwizzle> they have the same identifier
[10:28] <cwillu> woodwizzle, twinview shares a single display
[10:28] <cwillu> I thought...
[10:28] <cwillu> woodwizzle, try 0.2 :p
[10:28] <stf_> Guys, is it possible to upgrade libc from 2.3.6 to 2.5 on Dapper Drake?
[10:28] <cwillu> woodwizzle, 0.1 doesn't show anything on my box
[10:29] <cwillu> (running dual screen nvidia)
[10:29] <L3ttuc3> how do i resize an xnest session called via gdmflexiserver --xnest to a resolution of 800x600?
[10:29] <woodwizzle> cwillu: yup 0.2 worked
[10:30] <bullgard4> cwillu: The line you refferd to is "log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m." What does '%m' stand for?
[10:30] <bullgard4> referred
[10:30] <cwillu> bullgard4, machine name (or ip address if unknown)
[10:30] <cwillu> woodwizzle, k, pastebin me that
[10:30] <bullgard4> cwillu: Thank you for your help.
[10:30] <cwillu> np
[10:31] <h4cK3r0n3> this is an italian chan for ubuntu's assistance
[10:31] <woodwizzle> cwillu http://www.foresightlinux.com/paste/2552/
[10:32] <Svish> Why is the Secondary screen disabled in System -> Administration -> Screen and Graphics Preferences?
[10:32] <Svish> It lists my two screens, but I can only choose between default screen and disabled....
[10:32] <h4cK3r0n3> this is an italian chan for ubuntu's assistance please for english help join on #ubuntu
[10:32] <apatheticus> ubuntu lacks the font fixed in the gnome terminal?
[10:33] <cwillu> woodwizzle, really looks like it thinks it's on, doesn't it?
[10:33] <woodwizzle> cwillu: yeah but no dice :(
[10:35] <cwillu> woodwizzle, try DISPLAY=... xrandr --output --auto
[10:35] <groovingsoul> I'm looking for a good stock market program for linux, does anyone knows of a good one?
[10:35] <woodwizzle> cwillu: Can't open display
[10:35] <Ne0> can anyone help me with this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3506749&page=11
[10:35] <cwillu> woodwizzle, ... was whatever display you needed to set before
[10:35] <Ne0> when it says cd awn-curves
[10:36] <Ne0> i dont know where to cd couse there is no awn-curves after all
[10:36] <rsk> Ne0: sudo updatedb && slocate awn-curves
[10:36] <Raspberry> my wireless keyboard layout isn't correct -- none of the function keys work... any ideas?
[10:36] <rsk> Ne0: maybe the bzr co failed+
[10:37] <Ne0> didnt say it did
[10:37] <cwillu> woodwizzle, I'm running out of ideas
[10:37] <woodwizzle> comes up blank
[10:37] <Raspberry> i'm on a laptop and have htis wireless RF keyboard plugged in via USB
[10:37] <cwillu> woodwizzle, might see if anybody's had any luck with multiseats with nvidia, a working xorg for that might work for you
[10:37] <jrlenz> heh.
[10:37] <Ne0> uhm i did what you said and now ?
[10:37] <Raspberry> the laptop keyboard works great -- but that doesn't help me @ my desk
[10:38] <rsk> Ne0: did it find it ?
[10:38] <woodwizzle> I'm gonna switch the display 2 and 3 monitors just to make sure there isn't a monitor issue here
[10:38] <Ne0> i dont think so it didnt do anything afterall
[10:38] <rsk> correct
[10:38] <rsk> try the repo step again
[10:39] <Ne0> i tried again this time it does sth it didnt to before "fetching phase"
[10:39] <rsk> great
[10:40] <Ne0> wee works :D
[10:40] <woodwizzle> Ahh, an interesting development!
[10:40] <SweetFairy> is there a way to avoid the writing of the password here in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <woodwizzle> switching the 2 monitors makes all 3 work
[10:41] <cwillu> lol
[10:41] <bazhang> not a very good idea SweetFairy
[10:41] <SweetFairy> why ?
[10:41] <cwillu> SweetFairy, you can make it automatically log in, and it's possible to make the password prompts a click through, but you really want to have a good reason
[10:41] <bazhang> unless you want to join a botnet ;]
[10:41] <tanner> SweetFairy: not having a password leaves your system very vulnerable
[10:41] <woodwizzle> however the monitor that is plugged into the PCI card doesn't have a background or anything. It is set as the rightmost monitor but it has nothing more than a default X pointer.
[10:41] <cwillu> tanner, not quite what it would imply
[10:42] <cwillu> woodwizzle, probably need to run gnome on it seperately
[10:42] <cwillu> woodwizzle, DISPLAY=:0.2 gnome-panel & nautilus &
[10:42] <SweetFairy> ok thx, but ... for ubuntu i need any antivirus or firewall ?
[10:42] <BodOmLaW> for a partition to exchange between linux and xp i should use fat32 right?
[10:42] <cwillu> SweetFairy, not really
[10:42] <SweetFairy> i'll keep my password :P
[10:42] <Erik1> why is ubuntu so much smaller (install cd) and quicker to install than debian ?
[10:42] <BodOmLaW> should i mount it as dos or windows or not at all?
[10:42] <apatheticus> SweetFairy: you dont have any listening services running by default
[10:42] <SweetFairy> i don't have to install anything ?
[10:42] <Carbonflux> Indeed, before I locked down my ssh port I watch some guy from Korea spend quite a while trying to crack the password in my auth log, has I not had a password he would have pwned my whole machine
[10:43] <Carbonflux> watched*
[10:43] <SweetFairy> no fw no antiv .. ?
[10:43] <cwillu> SweetFairy, no, just avoid installing programs any way other than through add/remove or synaptic
[10:43] <BodOmLaW> ???
[10:43] <woodwizzle> and the monitor that is now plclear
[10:43] <bazhang> Erik1: just wait for the updates ;]
[10:43] <woodwizzle> oops
[10:43] <BodOmLaW> quick help here?
[10:43] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, fat32
[10:43] <BodOmLaW> should i mount it as dos or windows or not at all?
[10:43] <apatheticus> mount what?
[10:43] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, you can get an ext2 driver for windows, but I wouldn't really recommend it
[10:44] <Erik1> bazhang: oh... the install has a tail ?
[10:44] <Carbonflux> woodwizzle, did you take a look at your /var/logs/Xorg.0.log file to see what is being detected etc  ?
[10:44] <SweetFairy> ok thx :O
[10:44] <bazhang> BodOmLaW: he just told you
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> when i install ubunti should i mount the fat32 drive
[10:44] <bazhang> Erik1: indeed
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> ?
[10:44] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, bah
[10:44] <Erik1> ok
[10:44] <SweetFairy> i don't need antivir and firewall YEAHH
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> no?
[10:44] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, you want to be able to access the windows files?
[10:44] <woodwizzle> cwili the monitor that is now the 2nd monitor on the primary card is running at a low res. Maybe 800x600?
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> and vise versa
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> well
[10:44] <BodOmLaW> i want to be able to have a partition for both
[10:45] <BodOmLaW> to exchange
[10:45] <cwillu> woodwizzle, xrandr can change the resolution live, but now that you have a working'ish config, I'll leave you to play with it :p
[10:45] <cwillu> woodwizzle, I'm just happy to know it's possible
[10:45] <cwillu> woodwizzle, actually
[10:45] <Erik1> bazhang: so ubuntu is a netinstall in disguise....
[10:45] <cwillu> woodwizzle, what does glxgears look like on the main display?
[10:45] <BodOmLaW> forget it ill do it when i install window
[10:45] <cwillu> Erik1, not really
[10:45] <BodOmLaW> or after
[10:45] <bazhang> !enter | BodOmLaW
[10:45] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:45] <Andycass1> Is there a shortcut to run a terminal? (not the ctrl+alt+f1)
[10:45] <cwillu> Erik1, you can install debian with only one cd as well;
[10:45] <BodOmLaW> sorry
[10:45] <shade052__> BodOmLaW: do you want both OS on the same partion???
[10:45] <BodOmLaW> no
[10:46] <Erik1> cwillu: yes true
[10:46] <SweetFairy> andy put a link of the terminal in the desktop
[10:46] <cwillu> Erik1, and you can download a dvd of ubuntu with most of main on it
[10:46] <Andycass1> SweetFairy: how?
[10:46] <bazhang> Erik1: not reallyl there is a minimal install--you can get more info checking !minimal command here in channel or messaging the bot /msg ubotu minimal
[10:46] <woodwizzle> cwillu: glxgears looks fine. Display 2 is actually at 640x480. How do I use xrandr to change resolutions?
[10:46] <BodOmLaW> just one partition 10gb that they can both write and read
[10:46] <Raspberry> woodwizzle: man xrandr
[10:46] <Erik1> ok
[10:46] <cwillu> !xrandr
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Andycass1> SweetFairy: without i cant access the menu bar
[10:46] <cwillu> bah
[10:47] <BodOmLaW> so no mount?
[10:47] <BodOmLaW> just format the partition and leave it for later
[10:47] <SweetFairy> i don't know... i've used the command "add in desktop"
[10:47] <BodOmLaW> well, thats what im gonna do
[10:48] <Andycass1> SweetFairy: nvm, i could access the menu with alt+f1
[10:48]  * cwillu wishes he had run git-gc about 4 months ago
[10:48] <misslissa> where would i find out how to do security patching
[10:48] <BodOmLaW> hopefully this fakeraid works this time
[10:48] <misslissa> how to i patch linux server
[10:49] <cwillu> misslissa, which, like just applying updates?
[10:49] <rsk> misslissa: with a patch
[10:49] <BodOmLaW> goodnight thanks
[10:49] <misslissa> yes sir
[10:49] <misslissa> I am doing a school report
[10:49] <misslissa> for college
[10:49] <cwillu> misslissa, any packages in the repository, you should be able to apply updates just by logging in and running sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:49] <rsk> misslissa: ok then sudo update && sudo apt-get update
[10:49] <rsk> misslissa: for ubuntu
[10:49] <misslissa> and they are askin how I would patch a linux server?
[10:50] <misslissa> isnt there serveral ways
[10:50] <rsk> yes
[10:50] <cwillu> misslissa, do they specify the distrobution?
[10:50] <misslissa> like getting the correct repositories
[10:50] <misslissa> and using the audo update features
[10:50] <rsk> misslissa: i said howto do it for ubuntu goto other channels for other distro's ways
[10:50] <misslissa> what else can I do do help secure my linux server?
[10:50] <rsk> misslissa: dont give away passwords
[10:50] <rsk> and turning of ssh
[10:50] <misslissa> what
[10:50] <cwillu> rsk !?
[10:51] <Svish> why turning of ssh?
[10:51] <BodOmLaW> hey
[10:51] <misslissa> dont give away passwords??
[10:51] <Svish> isnt that kind of secure?
[10:51] <rsk> cause it's secure?
[10:51] <cwillu> rsk, turning off passwords in ssh, maybe (public keys), but don't turn off ssh if you're managing a server
[10:51] <bazhang> heh
[10:51] <lollo> !warcraft
[10:51] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:51] <Svish> I thought ssh was the secure way to communicate with your computer...
[10:51] <BodOmLaW> i can install xp on my fake raid drive with its raid after ubuntu right?
[10:51] <rsk> but it's more secure to have it turned of
[10:51] <dbmoodb> how does one in ubuntu join a domain easily - are their gui tools in gutsy ?
[10:51] <cwillu> Svish, passwords are the weak link;  better to use ssh-keygen and company to log in, but ya
[10:51] <dbmoodb> -friend wants to use ubuntu in a domain
[10:51] <cwillu> !domain
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <cwillu> !nt
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <cwillu> !samba
[10:52] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[10:52] <FloodBot2> ubotu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <rsk> dmacnutt: tell him to come here instead
[10:52] <cwillu> lol
[10:52] <BodOmLaW> i can install xp on my fake raid drive with its raid after ubuntu right?
[10:52] <dbmoodb> domain ?
[10:52] <dbmoodb> a windows domain
[10:52] <dbmoodb> oh thanks didn't see the second url
[10:53] <cwillu> dbmoodb, ya, sorry;  couldn't remember the ubotu keyword
[10:53] <dbmoodb> seems a bit dated
[10:53] <cwillu> dbmoodb, doubt much has changed
[10:53] <dbmoodb> for a domain - like he is joining a domain with windows servers
[10:53] <cwillu> dbmoodb, I don't think there's a gui for it in straight ubuntu yet
[10:53] <BodOmLaW> why the FUCK deos my formatting keep failing?
[10:53] <dbmoodb> k
[10:54] <bazhang> language BodOmLaW
[10:54] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, language, but are you resizing or formatting?
[10:54] <Andycass1> How to decrease samba mount timout when i boot?
[10:54] <BodOmLaW> im trying to install the os with dmraid
[10:54] <cwillu> Andycass1, there's a tonne of options under man samba, man mount.smb, and man mount.cifs
[10:54] <BodOmLaW> i want to partition it
[10:54] <BodOmLaW> when i go to install it
[10:54] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, but you aren't resizing an existing partition are you?
[10:54] <BodOmLaW> its says it faild
[10:54] <BodOmLaW> no
[10:54] <cwillu> k
[10:54] <bazhang> this is xp BodOmLaW?
[10:55] <BodOmLaW> ubuntu
[10:55] <cwillu> bazhang, (no existing partitions)
[10:55] <BodOmLaW> no
[10:55] <BodOmLaW> thats what im trying to do
[10:55] <Andycass1> cwillu: give me some basic guideline
[10:55] <woodwizzle> if xrandr says the max resolution is 640x480 does that mean the max resolution is 640x480
[10:55] <cwillu> woodwizzle, you could try adding the mode via xrandr;  I can never remember the commands though
[10:56] <BodOmLaW> i want to install xp after
[10:56] <cwillu> woodwizzle, something like you add the mode to the output, and then you set the output to that mode
[10:56] <BodOmLaW> it works when i try without dmraid
[10:56] <cwillu> Andycass1, are you mounting it as cifs of smb?
[10:56] <BodOmLaW> but that is useless for my situation
[10:56] <becky> morning
[10:57] <BodOmLaW> ???
[10:57] <cwillu> Andycass1?
[10:57] <Andycass1> cwillu: cifs
[10:57] <cwillu> k
[10:57] <woodwizzle> cwillu: How did you get 5 monitors?
[10:57] <cwillu> woodwizzle, not in any conventional way
[10:57] <cwillu> you might say I cheated :p
[10:58] <BodOmLaW> anyone???
[10:58] <cwillu> woodwizzle, I've gotten 4 radeon cards to coexist (1024x800 on each head, 8 heads)
[10:58] <BodOmLaW> forget it
[10:58] <cwillu> on my main setup, it's actually spread across different machines
[10:58] <BodOmLaW> ill wait till morning
[10:58] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, ya, try again later, doesn't sound like any dmraid gurus are on
[10:58] <woodwizzle> cwillu: damn, with ati no less
[10:58] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, might try asking casually in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[10:59] <cwillu> woodwizzle, ati is easier for this sort of thing I've found
[10:59] <BodOmLaW> goddamn ive been on it all night
[10:59] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, realizing of course that there's only a few dm gurus, and they need to rest about a week between troubleshooting sessions :p
[10:59] <BodOmLaW> lol
[10:59] <BodOmLaW> gnight
[11:00] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, I'm thinking that you need to do the partitioning completely seperate from the install wizards, but that's just a shot in the dark
[11:00] <BodOmLaW> if you talk to one
[11:00] <becky> does anyone have ubuntu installed on a dell XPS i do , and all seems fine apart form it seems to handle the sound hardware incorrectly i cant tell you what it does wrong but it sounds wrong , anyone?
[11:00] <BodOmLaW> get them to pm me please
[11:00] <cwillu> lol
[11:00] <cwillu> Andycass1, what's the exact problem you're trying to get around?
[11:00] <BodOmLaW> this is outrageous
[11:00] <BodOmLaW> g'night
[11:00] <cwillu> BodOmLaW,um
[11:01] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, dmraid is a hack job to begin with;  it's just about the worst possible raid setup
[11:01] <BodOmLaW> what would you suggest
[11:01] <BodOmLaW> goodthing i turned my monitor back on
[11:01] <cwillu> well, I'm not partial to raid in the first place (I'd prefer to put the second drive in an external enclosure
[11:01] <cwillu> lol
[11:01] <cwillu> (and rsync it nightly)
[11:01] <BodOmLaW> im for raid 0
[11:02] <bazhang> via cronjob?
[11:02] <BodOmLaW> combining two
[11:02] <cwillu> bazhang, usually
[11:02] <BodOmLaW> not backups
[11:02] <bazhang> thanks cwillu
[11:02] <cwillu> if you _have_ to run windows from the same drives, I'd recommend an actual bios level raid
[11:02] <BodOmLaW> i have it
[11:02] <cwillu> if you don't have the money, then dmraid is probably your only solution, but it's ungly
[11:02] <BodOmLaW> but ubuntu deosnt do it?
[11:02] <cwillu> Andycass1, ?
[11:02] <Zeroclo> halo
[11:02] <chrischie> hi
[11:02] <phiqtion> !kde
[11:02] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[11:02] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, it does it, but it's called fakeraid for a reason
[11:03] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, the chipset provides instructions which make implementing a raid easy for the os, but it doesn't actually implement it
[11:03] <Decinoge> uuuh
[11:03] <Decinoge> i could have the nick of Nubuland
[11:03] <Decinoge> that would be suitable
[11:03] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, this leaves you vulnerable to software issues affecting the raid at what should be a hardware level
[11:04] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, hmm
[11:04] <cwillu> yuo just want it for performance?
[11:04] <BodOmLaW> so what are you saying
[11:04] <BodOmLaW> ya to begin with
[11:04] <patto> Zdar
[11:04] <BodOmLaW> but now i dont want to oses with 250gb each
[11:04] <BodOmLaW> i want about 400 for linux
[11:04] <L3ttuc3> is that the normal behaviour? a very limited user inside an xnest session with no administrative rights can use the network manager applet to take down my network?
[11:04] <BodOmLaW> then whatever is left for the xp
[11:05] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, I'm not sure if you can run a drive only partially raided, (but assuming not, then do you have an extra drive...) but you could run a seperate partition non-raided just for the base install
[11:05] <Andycass1> cwillu: sorry, well im trying to decrease the timout when the cifs cant find the mount point
[11:05] <Andycass1> cwillu: at the boot time...
[11:05] <cwillu> Andycass1, back up :p
[11:05] <BodOmLaW> I dont understand?
[11:05] <cwillu> Andycass1, you're trying to make it not take a long time to boot, right?
[11:05] <Totti> русские есть?
[11:05] <Andycass1> cwillu: yes
[11:05] <BodOmLaW> implement raid after installing on one disk?
[11:05] <tokok> Totti: #ubuntu-ru
[11:05] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, load ubuntu onto a small partition (or a cheap drive), and set the raid up after
[11:06] <cwillu> on the other drives
[11:06] <BodOmLaW> then copy it?
[11:06] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, thinking
[11:06] <Totti> #ubuntu-ru
[11:06] <Totti> Чорт
[11:06] <cwillu> Andycass1, you're mounting in fstab correct?
[11:06] <BodOmLaW> usb drive work?
[11:07] <cwillu> Andycass1, can you pastebin me your fstab?
[11:07] <tokok> Totti: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:07] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, probably
[11:07] <BodOmLaW> hmm
[11:07] <Totti> tokok Thanks
[11:07] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, I'm not sure how grub will react, but something along those lines might get you something vaguely working
[11:07] <BodOmLaW> how would i copy it after?
[11:08] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, just cp -ax, and rerun the grub junk
[11:08] <BodOmLaW> ???
[11:08] <_Roman> I am using Ubuntu Server 7.10, there is no color schemes for vim (no /usr/share/vim/vim71/colors directory), is there another package I need to install to get the color schemes?
[11:08] <Xabstract> hey all, what's your opinion on installing ubuntu on a box that has windows already? what software do you concord on?
[11:08] <BodOmLaW> that code deos what?
[11:08] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, man cp
[11:09] <cwillu> BodOmLaW, -a is recursive with sane defaults, and -x tells it not stop whenever it moves to a different mount (such as /dev, /media/disk/, etc)
[11:09] <cwillu> Andycass1, ?
[11:09] <BodOmLaW> hmm its like 6am
[11:09] <BodOmLaW> im going to bed
[11:09] <Andycass1> cwillu: ehh, sorry not really
[11:09] <BodOmLaW> thanks
[11:09] <Andycass1> cwillu: because i cant get my network to function
[11:09] <BodOmLaW> ill be on at like 4pm
[11:10] <BodOmLaW> or earlier
[11:10] <Andycass1> cwillu: hold on ill see what i can do
[11:10] <BodOmLaW> gnight
[11:10] <bazhang> we shall await you ;]
[11:10] <BodOmLaW> lol
[11:10] <StrangeCharm> whenever i get to the partitioning step using the alt disk, it seems to either obtain info from somewhere, or guess what raid arrays i want, and and i can't delete them. what's it doing?
[11:13] <stowaway2> ive mounted my ntfs drive to my mythubuntu box.. just wondering how i share it so i can access the files on my other box
[11:14] <Andycass1> My network doesnt want to assign me a ipv4 address, what could be the problem? When i try to ping my gateway i get "Network unreachable"
[11:15] <Salaman> Andycass1 : ifconfig -a
[11:16] <fiton> sellyana
[11:17] <cwillu> Andycass1, try editing /etc/init.d/rc, look for CONCURRENCY=none, and change it to shell
[11:18] <cwillu> Andycass1, are you booting into a full gnome session?
[11:18] <Andycass1> cwillu: yes, currently im at the bootscreen waiting for the mountings.... heh
[11:18] <Andycass1> cwillu: ill see the syslog for some errors first
[11:19] <shade052__> cwillu: why editing the .rc file?
[11:20] <cwillu> shade052__, it'll tell it to run tasks in parallel.  The benefit here being that it won't force the boot process to hang on hung mounts iirc
[11:21] <cwillu> shade052__, Andycass1 there's also a mount option (-F), but I don't know how to apply that to mount in the fstab file, other than changing the scripts
[11:21] <segagman> I have an idea
[11:21] <segagman> top searched book marks
[11:21] <segagman> can linux do that/
[11:21] <segagman> ?
[11:21] <cwillu> segagman, ?
[11:21] <shade052__> cwillu: but what has that dot to do with adress resolution?
[11:22] <cwillu> shade052__, he's asked more than one question :p
[11:22] <segagman> i got book marks like the pirate bays lead man
[11:22] <segagman> it quiet sonfuseing
[11:22] <shade052__> cwillu:oops
[11:22] <segagman> <buzzed sorry all
[11:23] <cwillu> shade052__, it makes it so that his computer doesn't hang for a long time while it waits for network connections to time out that he may not care about at the time (think booting a laptop that'll connect to a home server if possible)
[11:23] <cwillu> that said
[11:23] <Bisonium1> Hello! have problem. After installing Linux I have added the text string in GRUB for Windows XP as an boot option. How ever, now I like to start Windows XP in failsafe mode. How can I do that? The F8 is no longer available at start up ...
[11:23] <cwillu> Andycass1, is this a server?  if it's a desktop, any chance you could just use gnome's vfs to connect to servers?
[11:23] <segagman> is there an index service for book mark in a gui user frindly
[11:23] <segagman> way?
[11:24] <cwillu> Bisonium1, boot xp, and hit the reset switch a second after it starts booting
[11:24] <cwillu> segagman, try the firefox 3 beta
[11:24] <cwillu> or alpha, whichever
[11:24] <segagman> fier fox 3 is geting2 bloat
[11:24] <cwillu> !?
[11:24] <cwillu> lol
[11:24] <cwillu> segagman, ff3 has _major_ reductions in memory use
[11:24] <segagman> i dont code
[11:24] <segagman> but
[11:25]  * adobongkangkong hello sick people
[11:25] <segagman> i no when theres 2 meny lines
[11:25] <cwillu> and major streamlining in all sorts of areas (bookmarks, history, layout engine, etc)
[11:25] <segagman> i got 20 p3z around here
[11:25] <lollo> hi guys, if a game or a big program crash and doesn't allow me to exit , how can i force its quit ( a function similar to task manager where i can see all the processes running .. )
[11:26] <lollo> and quit them ...
 : alt f2 then type "xkill"
[11:26] <segagman> old apps do fine
[11:26] <cwillu> lollo, hitting the close button should signal gnome to kill it after a few seconds, otherwise, xkill will do the trick (among other ways)
[11:26] <segagman> dont fix whats broken
[11:26] <segagman> brb BEER
[11:27] <cwillu> "old apps do fine", right after he asks for a new feature
[11:27]  * cwillu shakes his head
[11:27] <woodwizzle> cwillu: You got me headed in the right direction. I'm gonna log off now, but thanks so much!
[11:27] <cwillu> gl woodwizzle
[11:27] <segagman> jesus mohamad scientolgy i got to much ber left
[11:27] <segagman> :-)
[11:27] <lollo> ok ... umh ... but .. how can i specify the program to kill through xkill ?
[11:27] <Seveas> lollo, you click on it :)
 : wait for the "x mark" you know "x marks the spot"
[11:29] <lollo> ok now i try to close xchat :P
[11:29] <_mug> hey
[11:29] <apatheticus> anyone know why the fixed font is missing on ubuntu gnome terminal? and how i can use it?
[11:29] <apatheticus> i can use it in putty and aterm
[11:29] <apatheticus> but not in gnome terminal
[11:29] <segagman> i meen a hole new way to indext browsers bookmars
[11:30] <Seveas> segagman, spelling correctly isn't optional -- it makes people understand you
[11:30] <segagman> leave me alone
[11:30] <segagman> bully
[11:30] <lollo> -.- i click with the X on xchat button ( the one that i see when minimize the window ) but .. nothing Oo
[11:31] <aladdinsane> can anyone recommend a php/html editor with auto-complete?
[11:31] <Seveas> lollo, click on the xchat window with the X
[11:31] <adobongkangkong> aladdinsane : bluefish
[11:31] <segagman> i had an idea
[11:31] <segagman> geeeZZ
[11:31] <Seveas> !enter | segagman
[11:31] <ubotu> segagman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:32] <aladdinsane> adobongkangkong, i have it installed, but cant figure out how to get auto-complete to work, don't think its possible
[11:32] <Andycass1> cwillu: I fixed it, /etc/networking/interfaces had a nice config but network manager had set some freaky ip "10.xx.xx.xx" and when i replaced that it started working again
 : you wait until your mouse cursoe becomes "x" then you choose what window to close by clicking it.. then you wait if it closes..
[11:32] <Andycass1> Does network manager have some other config file where it reads the ip's ?
[11:32] <_mug> is there an easy way to create a crypted directory? it should be easy to backup an i want to be able to mount it in windows and linux. PLUS :) ubuntu 15.08 should be able to mount/decrypt it :)
[11:32] <cwillu> Andycass1, heh;  that's a private ip range (like 192.168.x.x)
[11:32] <cwillu> weird
[11:32] <Seveas> Andycass1, it could have received that ip via dhcp :)
[11:32] <segagman> Ok I'm sorry for thinking that people are objective.
[11:32] <cwillu> Andycass1, yep, I think it's /etc/Networking (look for the capital letter)
[11:33] <Mr-LonelY> hi..how to set auto up my iptables each time log in?
[11:33] <segagman> rUa skool teachEr
[11:33] <aladdinsane> anybody else know of any php/html editor with auto-complete, apart from bluefish?
[11:33] <_mug> Mr-LonelY: everytime a spcific user logs in or every time you start your machine?
[11:33] <lollo> ok thx ! so if a big program like a game blocks the whole system, if i type alt+f2 this command is like task manager, so it has the priority and opens itself ?
[11:33] <Andycass1> Seveas: I disabled roaming mode
[11:33] <Andycass1> Seveas: It was as if it was set by hand
[11:34] <Paolinho> aladdinsane, quanta should
[11:34] <Mr-LonelY> _mug: each i start my machine
[11:34] <Mr-LonelY> _mug: each time i start my machine
[11:34] <Seveas> Mr-LonelY, add the rules to /etc/rc.local :)
[11:34] <aladdinsane> Paolinho: ok i'll have a look, thnx
[11:34] <adobongkangkong> http://www.screem.org/features.php aladdinsane
[11:34] <Mr-LonelY> Seveas: what that to add in /etc/rc.local?
[11:34] <Paolinho> aladdinsane, but it's a kde program so you'll need kdelibs
[11:34] <lollo> !warcraft
[11:34] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:34] <_mug> Mr-LonelY: just add a link Sxxfirwall for example to /etc/rc3.d/
[11:34] <Seveas> Mr-LonelY, your iptables commands
[11:35] <MidasWS> In shh, how can I archive an entire dir and it's subdirs?
[11:35] <aladdinsane> adobongkangkong: ok i'll have a look at that one to, thnx
[11:36] <cwillu> anybody recommend a good gnutella client other than limewire or gtk-gnutella?
[11:36] <Seveas> MidasWS, tar zcvf backup.tar.gz /path/to/dir
[11:36] <_mug> MidasWS: ..
[11:36] <MidasWS> thanks seceas
[11:36] <_mug> :)
[11:36] <MidasWS> seveas
[11:36] <erUSUL> !frostwire | cwillu
[11:36] <ubotu> cwillu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
 : also there's compozer a wysiwyg editor much like frontpage
[11:36] <cwillu> MidasWS, oooo
[11:36] <cwillu> bah
[11:36] <adobongkangkong> *kompozer
[11:36] <cwillu> erUSUL, ooooo
[11:39] <aladdinsane> adobongkangkong: ok great, now i have a few to evaluate, Kompozer was the name by the way, with K. thnx a bunch
[11:40] <lollo> !warcraft
[11:40] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:41]  * cwillu is unimpressed by how frostwire managed to hang itself while entering a chat name
[11:42] <adobongkangkong> cwillu : it's been like that...
[11:42]  * cwillu wonders what people thought he meant by 'good'
[11:43]  * erUSUL thinks that every single person has his definition of "good"
[11:44] <erUSUL> !best | cwillu
[11:44] <ubotu> cwillu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[11:44] <erUSUL> !worksforme | cwillu
[11:44] <ubotu> cwillu: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[11:46] <esben> I have a problem with the speed of the audiofiles being played in Rhythmbox. Does anybody know something about this?
[11:47] <Mr-LonelY> Seveas: iptables command? iptables-restore < myiptables? like that? in /etc/rc.local?
[11:48] <Seveas> Mr-LonelY, yes, and make sure they get saved on shutdown
[11:49] <Mr-LonelY> Seveas: get saved on shutdown? how?
[11:50] <bobbo> I just ordered a 1tb Western Digital MyBook Pro (External RAID thing). Does anyone know if this will work in Ubuntu?
[11:50] <Znuff> Hello. I've got a mainboard that has 2 sata controllers (marvell), but I can only see the disks on the first controller under linux. Anyone knows how can I fix it? The controllers are Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6121 SATA II Controller (rev1 and rev2)
[11:50] <Znuff> bobbo, how will you connect it?
[11:50] <Znuff> bobbo, usb/firewire or ethernet?
[11:50] <bobbo> Znuff: USB
[11:50] <Znuff> bobbo, yeah. It will work.
[11:51] <bobbo> Znuff: thanks a lot
[11:51] <Mr-LonelY> anyone?
[11:52] <Seveas> Mr-LonelY, with iptables-save
[11:52] <Mr-LonelY> Seveas: where to put that command?
[11:53] <Seveas> custom initscript that's linked as a shutdown script
[11:55] <Mr-LonelY> Seveas: tricky to me..dunno what to write
[11:57] <Leggendino> hi
[11:57] <Leggendino> can somebody help me with cpu frequency scaling?
[12:00] <Myiasia> Ah, yay. 1+1 really did equal 2. XD
[12:00] <jcarlos21br> Bom diaa!!!
[12:01] <Myiasia> Found my way here from a single line in the forums I was looking at, "and if you want live help feel free to come to the irc channel on freenode" - "uncommon" sense told me to try #Ubuntu, so here I am. :)
[12:03] <Myiasia> And what I'm looking for is.. well, a way to upgrade from the generic i386 build to an i686 build, preferably geared towards my PIII Tualatin 1.2GHz, here. It's old, and I want to squeeze everything I can out of it without having to deal with Gentoo again. :p
[12:03] <Myiasia> Can anyone, by chance, help me with that? :)
[12:04] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ are you using the linux-generic kernel or the linux-386 one?
[12:04] <cpk1> guys I have a serious problem. some of my key type out two different keys each time I press it and I have no clue what happened
[12:04] <Myiasia> Generic, indeed. :)
[12:05] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ well thats optimised for 586/686
[12:05] <Toma-> are you using gnome?
[12:05] <Myiasia> Gentoo left a nasty taste in my mouth, so.. :p
[12:05] <Myiasia> Yup.
[12:06] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ might want to try a lighter DE like XFCE or fluxbox. gnome is fat and bloaty and you wont get much difference unless you change DE
[12:06] <Myiasia> Oh, huh.. I thought the generic kernel was i386. At least, that's what the package manager would lead me to believe.
[12:06] <Slart> Myiasia: what's the goal here.. if you want a fast enviroment, try xfce or something simila
[12:06] <Toma-> cpk1➜ are you using the right keyboard map?
[12:06] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ sadly mistaken
[12:06] <Slart> Myiasia: try uname -a.. what does it say at the end?
[12:07] <Myiasia> Slart: Well, if the code is already optimized for i686, then there's nothing for me to worry about. :)
[12:07] <Myiasia> Dur.. can't believe I forgot about uname.
[12:07] <Myiasia> That's what I get for being a blonde. XP
[12:07] <ikonia> Myiasia define optimsed for i686
[12:07] <Slart> Myiasia: if you really want to squeeze those last drops out I'd suggest compiling your own kernel.. removing stuff you don't need etc
[12:08] <Myiasia> i686, sure enough.
[12:08] <Slart> Myiasia: but then you're back in the gentoo-swamp =)
[12:08]  * cwillu slaps Slart for suggesting such sillyness :p
[12:08] <Toma-> yeh, dont go compiling kernels.
[12:08] <Myiasia> hehe
[12:08]  * cwillu hides his 2.6.24-ck build behind his back
[12:08]  * Slart puts up a small sign pointing to the words "last drops"
[12:08] <Andycass1> where does route keep its settings?
[12:09]  * ikonia requests people stop using "/me commands" in a busy channel 
[12:09] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ what are you using the machine for?
[12:09] <cwillu> honestly, the scheduler is sooooo much better, I'm still amazed ubuntu never went with it a year ago
[12:09] <cpk1> Toma-: I just came back into my room and wanted to shutdown my server and now it takes me 1 minute to type anything, only thing that might have happened is my keyboard got mashed by someone
[12:09] <Myiasia> One of my friends got me hooked on Linux back in '03, and since then, I've played with .. gods, 7 different flavors.
[12:09] <cwillu> but it's in hardy courtesy of mainline, so nevermind :p
[12:09] <Toma-> cpk1➜ ah right.
[12:10] <Myiasia> So far, Ubuntu is my favorite, and I've only been toying with it for about 6 months, now. :p
[12:10] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ what are you using the machine for?
[12:10] <cpk1> whoa
[12:10] <cpk1> it started working
[12:10]  * cpk1 scratches head
[12:10] <Toma-> cpk1➜ i yelled at it from here.
[12:10] <Myiasia> Toma-: I'm actually using it as a secondary machine to my primary.... which.. has a nasty virus, currently. Yay Winblows.
[12:10] <Toma-> :)
[12:10] <dorothygale> hi all... this is probably an easy question...
[12:10] <cpk1> I was about to say its quite humorous because I have to type out all this gibberish and then go back and delete the inerrant words
[12:10]  * syc_ off
[12:11] <cpk1> Toma-: thank you for the power of the shout =)
[12:11] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ so general chat/web/email/music/videos?
[12:11] <cpk1> I have no clue why it was doing that
[12:11] <dorothygale> I have a server (Compaq Proliant 3000) running Ubuntu Server...
[12:11] <cpk1> or how/why it stopped
[12:11] <ikonia> dorothygale: ok
[12:11] <dorothygale> it's headless
[12:11] <Myiasia> And some minor gaming. Most intense game I run is UT2004, and it runs natively in Linux, so..
[12:11] <cpk1> voodoo programming...
[12:11] <ikonia> cpk1: ok - we get it
[12:12] <dorothygale> anyway I have a MacBook and I want to connect to it so i can re-install it with Ubuntu Media Server
[12:12] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ id suggest e16/e17/fluxbox/openbox
[12:12] <DemonX> fuck
[12:12] <DemonX> )
[12:12] <ikonia> dorothygale: not possible unless you have an ilao card
[12:12] <ikonia> DemonX: that language is uncalled for
[12:12] <Myiasia> I've heard Fluxbox is pretty good.
[12:12] <DemonX> rusian
[12:12] <dorothygale> problem is I forgot my username and password as I haven't booted this server in a while
[12:12] <DemonX> Rusia
[12:12] <Andycass1> could someone give me an example how to delete a route?
[12:12] <DemonX> (^
[12:12] <erUSUL> !ru
[12:12] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:12] <ikonia> DemonX: that doesn't make it any more acceptable, please moderate your language
[12:13] <mopflite> Myiasia: fluxbox is good, and has a light footprint too - ideal for running on older machines
[12:13] <ikonia> Andycass1: sudo route del $ipaddress
[12:13] <ikonia> Andycass1: sudo route del $ipaddress -gw $gateway
[12:13] <Andycass1> ikonia: yes, but I keep getting unknown host and "siocdelrt - no process"
[12:13] <Myiasia> Simple as an apt-get install fluxbox, I take it? :)
[12:13] <mopflite> I ran blackbox for several years, fluxbox is heavily based on blackbox but somewhat enhanhced
[12:13] <ikonia> Andycass1: show me the outpue of netstat -rn in a pastebin and then the command you are using to delete the route ?
[12:13] <mopflite> Myiasia: yes
[12:13] <Toma-> dorothygale➜ headless you say?
[12:13] <dorothygale> yes
[12:13] <dorothygale> no monitor
[12:14] <erUSUL> Andycass1: sudo route del <route>
[12:14] <Cheaziz> Greetings room!
[12:14] <Cheaziz> I am back...
[12:14] <dorothygale> I do have a crossover cable
[12:14] <sybariten> anyone here running putty --> ubuntu --> GNU Screen --> [some messenger or IRC] regularly?? i want to compare locales/character problems......
[12:14] <Myiasia> And, assuming Ubuntu works as other builds, it's just a matter of selecting the session type at login.
[12:14] <ikonia> dorothygale: you need an remoate access card (drac , ilo, gsp, LOM)
[12:14] <Toma-> dorothygale➜ i dont think its possible... not sure if the ubuntu-server disks starts a ssh session for install
[12:14] <ikonia> sybariten yup on it now
[12:14] <Cheaziz> Can anyone tell me why my Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) keeps hanging whenever I run Rhythmbox?
[12:14] <dorothygale> ssh is installed Toma
[12:14] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ you got it
[12:14] <ikonia> dorothygale do you have a remote access card
[12:14] <dorothygale> I installed it before I forgot the admin username and password
[12:15] <Andycass1> ikonia: route log http://andycas.pri.ee/files/route
[12:15] <Cheaziz> Oh, also when I run Pidgin the same occurs.. It hangs completely!
[12:15] <Toma-> dorothygale➜ thats not soing to help sadly
[12:15] <dorothygale> probably not ikonia
[12:15] <Toma-> dorothygale➜ youll need to reinstall
[12:15] <dorothygale> Toma I know this
[12:15] <dorothygale> this is what I want to do see
[12:15] <mopflite> Myiasia: you might also want to apt-get install fluxconf which is an easy configuration tool - fluxbox is a little non-intuitive to configure for a newcomer, and iirc the standard ubuntu packaged version doesn't come with much in the way of a pre-written configuration file
[12:15] <Myiasia> Excellent. Installed and ready to go, then. Any surprises I should be aware of? IE; will I get lost in it after using only gnome/KDE all this time? :p
[12:15] <dorothygale> but I need to connect to this yoke
[12:15] <Myiasia> hehe
[12:15] <sybariten> ikonia: OK, i guess we're not so lucky as you being from some exotic european or even scandinavian country?
[12:16] <Myiasia> Guess so! :p
[12:16] <ikonia> Andycass1: thats your default route your trying to remove
[12:16] <ikonia> sybariten, no, sorry. UK
[12:16] <ikonia> dorothygale if you want to re-install ubuntu on a headless machine you will need a remote access card
[12:16] <mopflite> Myiasia: it's much more minimalist than either KDE or gnome, and as a result much faster
[12:16]  * Myiasia nods understandingly.
[12:16] <mopflite> let me see if I still have any screenshots from my blackbox days
[12:16] <serenityUK> Myiasia, you will get a suprise at the loading time when you log in lol... bam it's there
[12:16] <mopflite> serenityUK: yes, I liked that about it too
[12:17] <Andycass1> ikonia: what about that 169.254.0.0? Its just that everytime i restart my network interfaces i get "SIOCCADDRT: File Exists Failed to bring up eth0."
[12:17] <sybariten> ikonia: OK, well, i even have curses problems and that has nothing to do with countries ofcourse....  i have two servers, one old and one new, am migrating to the new. The old one has a working relationship with putty... i get swedish characters in both the normal shell and under screen, and centerICQ looks allright
[12:17] <dorothygale> ikonia: so ethernet won't do this for me?
[12:17] <Myiasia> Well.. gnome is almost instant.. something like a 2-second wait even on this old '99 model 'puter.
[12:17] <Toma-> dorothygale➜ theres no way to get access to a headless box that youve forgotten the password for.
[12:17] <ikonia> sybariten UTF8 = hassle
[12:17] <Myiasia> But faster is always better.
[12:17] <ikonia> dorothygale no
[12:17] <dorothygale> can't do some terminal install?
[12:17] <Myiasia> ... unless it comes to crashing.
[12:17] <dorothygale> lemmie take a look at the back of it...
[12:18] <mopflite> Myiasia: http://www.yoyo.org/~anthony/newbbox.png
[12:18] <sybariten> ikonia: so i've heard....  (except from every *nix guy who praises it...) but i actually dont think i am using UTF in any steps. Putty for instance is set for ISO8859 Latin-1, in both sessions
[12:18] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ if you want, i can get you using e17
[12:19] <ikonia> Andycass1 try this "sudo route del -net 192.168.1.0 gw 0.0.0.0
[12:19] <Myiasia> Hmm... menus would actually be helpful. I'm not quite THAT keen on being minimalistic. XD
[12:19] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/e17/fireball13.png
[12:19] <Toma-> (e17)
[12:19] <mopflite> Myiasia: you've got me thinking now, I might install and try enlightenment
[12:19] <mopflite> Myiasia: menus are possible and very configurable
[12:19] <Myiasia> Ah, yes. e17 looks friendly enough.
[12:19] <Tomi^^> does ubuntu support my motherboards integrated HD audio ?? :o
[12:20] <Andycass1> ikonia: I get "SIOCDELRT: Invalid argument"
[12:20] <Tomi^^> Asus P5K
[12:20] <Myiasia> I like that black theme you guys use, too.
[12:20] <^root^> Hi! i installed a couple of themes for ubuntu like blubuntu, ubuntustudio and emerald for managing them, i applieas ubuntu studio, it was working fine, then i opened emerald and did something which i dont remember, and now title bar of all windows has gone
[12:20] <Myiasia> Very to-the-point and easy on the eyes.
[12:20] <Toma-> Myiasia➜ thats not default. thats a theme i made
[12:20] <ikonia> Andycass1: odd, replace -net with -host
[12:21] <Myiasia> Well, I figured as much, but it's still nice.
[12:21] <Toma-> thx :) come to #e if you want to know more since e17 has nothing at all to do with ubuntu
[12:21] <dorothygale> okay let's try this then... what if there was a distro that loaded everything without prompting for user input. Like, say a manufacturer install. The I could SSH into it and do a command line install of Ubuntu Media Server
[12:21] <mopflite> Myiasia: http://www.yoyo.org/~anthony/blackbox-menu # that's the blackbox menu config file syntax, fluxbox is very similar
[12:21]  * Myiasia nods.
[12:21] <dorothygale> like, I have physical access o the server
[12:21] <Andycass1> ikonia: now i get "SIOCDELRT: No such process
[12:22] <ikonia> dorothygale: no - you can't install ubuntu over ssh
[12:22] <serenityUK> Myiasia, right-click on the background for the menu
[12:22] <Andycass1> ikonia: my route has changed, hang on ill give you the new one
[12:22] <ikonia> Andycass1: how is your route changing ?
[12:23] <Andycass1> ikonia: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/route
[12:23] <^^MAg^^> Hi, who is responsible for mirrors infrastructure?
[12:23] <^^MAg^^> pl.archive.ubuntulinux.org is out of sync
[12:24] <ikonia> Andycass1: ok, looks like dhcp has fixed it for you
[12:24] <Andycass1> ikonia: but i still get the siocaddrt: file exists error when trying to restart network interfaces?
[12:24] <ikonia> Andycass1: is it complaining about eth0 ?
[12:25] <ikonia> ^^MAg^^: are you doing something with ubuntu studio by any chance
[12:25] <Andycass1> its complaining about eth1
[12:25] <Leila> I have been reading in this chat for about a week trying to figure out how to use it. I want to install Konversation. The last build was for Edgey. I extracted and the did a ./configure. I got a long readout that I put in pastbin under my name K_Nine. It says something about X. Can someone read this and help me out?
[12:25] <ikonia> Andycass1: it can't be as eth1 is coming up
[12:25] <ikonia> !info Konversation
[12:25] <ubotu> konversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 5034 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[12:26] <jrib> Leila: no need to compile.  Do you know about Repositories and Package management?
[12:26] <erawfish> Leila: not if you don't give us the pastebin url
[12:26] <xen_> Hey im having some trouble backing up my post is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4237570&postcount=497  any help much appreciated
[12:26] <ikonia> Leila: Konversation is available in gutsy
[12:26] <ikonia> Leila: you don't need to compile it
[12:26] <Andycass1> ikonia: i dont know then, could it be because i tried to disable ipv6 following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-87798.html
[12:26] <Andycass1> ikonia: thats the only thingy did this recently
[12:26] <ikonia> Andycass1: let me have a quick look through that guide, if you do an "sudo ifdown eth1" then a "sudo ifup eth1" do you get that error
[12:26] <AngryElf_> what's a good journaled filesystem that can support sizes greater than 2TB?
[12:27] <Andycass1> ikonia: thats the only thing i did recently*
[12:27] <erawfish> Andycass1: ext3
[12:27] <Leila> jrib:  When I type it in the package manager, it doesn't show up.
[12:27] <AngryElf_> erawfish: i've read sevearl place that ext3's upper limit is around 2TB
[12:27] <ikonia> Andycass1: spot on 2 TB for a file - not a file ssytem
[12:28] <jrib> Leila: please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:28] <erawfish> AngryElf_: partition size or filesize?
[12:28] <overclucker> AngryElf_: what a hang up!
[12:28] <ikonia> erawfish: file size
[12:28] <serenityUK> AngryElf, XFS is designed for performance with large files.. I think the only draw back is that you cannot shrink a partition.. but you can grow it
[12:28] <AngryElf_> i'm not concerend with file size
[12:28] <AngryElf_> just filesystem size
[12:28] <Andycass1> ikonia: when i did sudo ifup eth1 it told me that interface was not configured, when i did ifup it gave me siocaddrt file exists and failed to bring up eth1
[12:28] <Leila> Here is the URL of pastebin http://pastebin.com/m6df05091
[12:28] <erawfish> AngryElf_: then ext3 will do
[12:28] <AngryElf_> k
[12:28] <erawfish> Leila: apt-get install knoversation
[12:28] <AngryElf_> thanx
[12:29] <jrib> Leila: no, I need the pastebin for /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <Andycass1> ikonia: i cant ping anything either, but i can access the web?
[12:29] <xen_> Hey im having some trouble backing up my post is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4237570&postcount=497  any help much appreciated
[12:29] <Leila> erawfish:  It won't install.
[12:29] <erawfish> !repeat | xen
[12:29] <ubotu> xen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:29] <erawfish> Leila: then do what jrib asked you
[12:29] <ikonia> AngryElf_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2
[12:30] <ikonia> Andycass1: check you setup in the network admin gui, I'd guess a static address is arguing with dhcp - something along those lines (at a guess)
[12:30] <sort> hi
[12:30] <erawfish> ikonia: ext3 has different limits. and you REALLY don't want a fs without journalling at a 2TB fs...
[12:30] <phiqtion> !wine
[12:30] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:30] <xen_> !patience
[12:30] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:30] <ikonia> erawfish: yes, but it explains the limits in ext3 and where they came from if you read the page
[12:30] <sort> a n00b question where i can find nautilis scripts directory?
[12:30] <jrib> AngryElf_: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/VALinux-kb/2gb-filesize-limit.html is interesting, though I have no idea of the validity
[12:31] <ikonia> erawfish: there is also a link to ext3 on the page
[12:31] <Leila> jrib: How do I do that? When I put cd /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal, it says not a directory.
[12:31] <ikonia> jrib: legacy issue - it's not an issue
[12:31] <jrib> ikonia: ah
[12:31] <Andycass1> the network gui is set to be static
[12:31] <erawfish> AngryElf_: at 2 or 4TB will will get problems with normal partition tables however
[12:31] <jrib> Leila: it's a text file, open it with a text editor: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <ikonia> erawfish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[12:32] <Leggendino> eccomi qua
[12:32] <Leggendino> fa la stessa cosa
[12:32] <Leggendino> non mi fa impostare la frequenza
[12:32] <jrib> !it | Leggendino
[12:32] <sort> please help
[12:32] <dgjones> !it | Leggendino
[12:32] <ubotu> Leggendino: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <Leggendino> yes
[12:32] <Leggendino> sorry
[12:32] <sort> a n00b question where i can find nautilis scripts directory?
[12:32] <ikonia> sort: scripts ?
[12:32] <sort> yes
[12:33] <ikonia> what sort of scripts, nautilis is a file manager
[12:33] <Andycass1> ikonia:  the network gui is set to be static
[12:33] <ikonia> Andycass1: ahhh hha, change it to dhcp
[12:33] <ikonia> Andycass1: then lets dance
[12:33] <jrib> sort: ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[12:33] <ikonia> jrib: scripts ?
[12:33] <sort> i have downloaded some script for nautlis but where to put it
[12:33] <sort> thanx
[12:33] <jrib> ikonia: yep, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[12:33] <ikonia> ta
[12:33] <sort> yes
[12:34] <mauro`> uhm all right, i guess many people is reading this right now so: firend of mine has laptop (few years old asus), i dont know what he's done but i quess he hibernated it because the sleep sign (Zz) is flashing.. and the problem is that if i turn it on it doesnt reboot it just starts with black screen, the Zz (sleep) sign flashing and cant do nothing, i took out the battery, still same..
[12:34] <ikonia> mauro`: hardware issue, join ##hardware
[12:34] <mauro`> thanks :)
[12:34] <sort> another noob question where i find ./gnome?
[12:34] <serenityUK> sort you will have to enable hidden files to see dirs with a dot... goto View menu and tick show hidden files
[12:34] <wjlroe> Hi. Does anyone know how to get connections to route properly with two internet connections? Line 1 is the default route, and line 2 is what the email comes in on. Trying to connect to a service on line 2 doesn't work because Linux tries to establish the connection through the default route, rather than the route it came in on
[12:35] <Leila> jrib:  Okay. Try again. http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[12:35] <serenityUK> sort, it's in your home folder
[12:35] <sort> ok thank you
[12:35] <gicmo> sort: press ctrl + h
[12:35] <Andycass1> ikonia: yes that removed the error, but now i cant access the machine via vnc thru my winbox
[12:35] <jrib> sort: ./gnome is not what I said so you won't find it :).  ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/ where ~ means /home/your_username .  Also, files that begin with '.' are hidden by default, so press ctrl-h to see them
[12:35] <Andycass1> ikonia: nvm, i know what the problem is, ill try to fix it
[12:35] <ikonia> Andycass1: thats a seperate issue, check your ip address and gateways now via dhcp (after a reboot is better)
[12:35] <ikonia> Andycass1: ok
[12:36] <sort>  done thanx
[12:36] <jrib> Leila: that cannot be the correct url for your paste
[12:36] <Jay955> what type of file system to you recommend for a second drive this drive will be used for storage of pic and mp3 and txt files
[12:36] <jrib> Leila: I get a blank page
[12:36] <Leila> jrib:  How do I find the correct one?
[12:37] <jrib> copy the contents of your sources.list, then paste it into the form.  Hit "send" and then copy the url you get
[12:37] <wjlroe> Jay955: if you don't need to use windows or mac, then you can take your pick. Something well used and stable would be best if it's a backup - so ext3, or reiserfs would do the trick
[12:37] <overclucker> Jay955: ext3
[12:37] <hyui> Hi, i'm considering to acquire a pcmcia modem for my ubuntu gutsy, my option are OPTION GTMax 3.6, SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875, and SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875+, which of them can run out of box in my gutsy system?
[12:37] <Codenut> Good Morning to all
[12:38] <tokok> Codenut: evening you mean
[12:38] <Jay955> will xp be able to read if ext3
[12:38] <Leila> jrib: Try this http://pastebin.com/m158158b0
[12:38] <Andycass1> ikonia: Well the problem is - Im trying to use two ip's on one interface. I have used the eth1 and eth1:1 options but when i do ifconfig it doesnt give the inet address
[12:38] <jrib> !ext3 > jay955 (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <wjlroe> Jay955: no, might be some 3rd party software...
[12:38] <jrib> Jay955: yes, if you install something
[12:38] <ikonia> Andycass1: ifconfig eth1:1
[12:38] <Leila> jrib:  You have to post it for more than a  day.
[12:38] <sort> !ext3
[12:38] <Codenut> How do adjust what programs my son can see on his user name?
[12:38] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:39] <Neeku> hi
[12:39] <Codenut> heeh
[12:39] <sort> hi
[12:39] <Neeku> I've downloaded wine. how can i install it?
[12:39] <Jay955> ok thanks
[12:39] <sort> wine?
[12:39] <Andycass1> ikonia: that doesnt have inet address either
[12:39] <sort> what's this
[12:39] <hyui> Hi, i'm considering to acquire a pcmcia modem for my ubuntu gutsy, my option are OPTION GTMax 3.6, SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875, and SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875+, which of them can run out of box in my gutsy system?
[12:39] <ikonia> Andycass1: how are you configuring the :1 addres ?
[12:39] <freepenguin> hi
[12:40] <jrib> Leila: most of your repositories are commented out.  Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable them
[12:40] <sort> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:40] <Codenut> Sorry for asking twice, how do I block programs for a certian username?
[12:40] <Neeku> sort: no! I've downloaded it, I don't want to download it again
[12:40] <Andycass1> ikonia: i wish i could pastebin but i dont have networking, ill have to redo this admin gui thing, give me a min
[12:40] <Neeku> I've got bandwidth limit
[12:40] <sort> you have to compile it i think
[12:40] <sarmisak> Neeku: is it a .deb?
[12:41] <Neeku> sarmisak: it was wine-0.9.54.tar.bz2
[12:41] <Neeku> I've extracted it
[12:41] <sort> sources?
[12:41] <freepenguin> I'm doing the Ubuntu Free Penguin Edition .. if somebody want see the live cd here there is the emule link: ed2k://|file|Ubuntu 7.10 Free Penguin Edition.iso|1028055040|16D222EAED54F3673CFDB7CDFBE1E1B8|/|/    bye
[12:42] <sarmisak> Neeku: hmms, you better apt-get it, compiling is a bit tricky to tell over irc.
[12:42] <Neeku> sarmisak: oh no! :(
[12:42] <sarmisak> freepenguin: do you have a web page for a changelog, the differences, etc?
[12:42] <Neeku> don't tell me I wasted 15mb of my transfer limit!
[12:43] <freepenguin> sarmisak, yes I'm uploading it into my web-site
[12:43] <sarmisak> Neeku: there might be a package in the cd, just check it
[12:43] <freepenguin> sarmisak, on 1-2 hours you could see it at www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html
[12:44] <Leila> jrib:  Thanks much. That did it. !:)
[12:44] <Rezagrats> Problem: when i try and play a YouTube video i can't hear any sound, ok now it seems that all my sound is down
[12:44] <cwillu> anybody know how to make firefox only use a proxy for particular addresses?  (i.e., the opposite of the normal 'don't proxy for ...')
[12:45] <cwillu> Rezagrats, probably have some program that doesn't use esd/alsa locking the device
[12:45] <lundnd> hey, is it possoble to have one log for ex Model1 and another for Model2 ?
[12:45] <freepenguin> sarmisak, however all softwares are updated to yesterday, there are customized themes and icons gdm etc., build-essential and gcc and more software (like amsn svn or amule cvs)
[12:45] <Rezagrats> Cwillu, mind explaining that
[12:45] <freepenguin> sarmisak, but this evening I'll put a better list in the web-site
[12:45] <Neeku> sarmisak: no way to do it with the pkg i've downloaded?
[12:45] <sarmisak> freepenguin: thanks, i will check your website.
[12:45] <Andycass1> ikonia: this is how my interfaces looks like: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/netconf
[12:45] <gurpreet> how can i know the version of nfs server installed on my machine/
[12:45] <gurpreet> ?
[12:46] <cwillu> Rezagrats, what programs do you have open?  (no matter how insignificant)
[12:46] <freepenguin> ;)
[12:46] <sarmisak> Neeku: there is way but googling through it will probably cost you more on bandwidth ;) are you on gprs or something like that?
[12:46] <ikonia> Andycass1: fix your netwmask on eth1
[12:46] <Rezagrats> Corpse script (mIRC), firefox, and file browser, cwillu
[12:46] <ikonia> Andycass1: netmask sorry
[12:47] <Neeku> sarmisak: no, i have adsl but with bw limit
[12:47] <Andycass1> ikonia: i think i need it to be .254 its my iptv box that has the same netmask and it says so in the guide
[12:47] <hyui> I'm really sorry to repeat this, i'm considering to acquire a pcmcia modem for my ubuntu gutsy, my option are OPTION GTMax 3.6, SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875, and SIERRA Wireless Aircard 875+, which of them can run out of box in my gutsy system?
[12:47] <Andycass1> ikonia: and it worked on my win box
[12:48] <ikonia> Andycass1: your first line is 25.255.255
[12:48] <cwillu> Rezagrats, sudo lsof | grep -i snd
[12:48] <Andycass1> ikonia: oh, yes right
[12:48] <serenityUK> gurpreet, try  apt-cache show nfs-server    ?  or the package name
[12:48] <cwillu> Rezagrats, that'll show every process that has something related to sound open
[12:48] <Andycass1> i did fix it before, sorry, it didnt have effect
[12:48] <sarmisak> hyui: googling it would be much faster
[12:48] <dgjones> !hcl | hyui, have a look at the compatibility website, you might find some info there about the cards
[12:48] <ubotu> hyui, have a look at the compatibility website, you might find some info there about the cards: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:49] <cwillu> Rezagrats, dump that into a pastebin and link it here
[12:49] <ikonia> Andycass1: I'm not sure what your problem is, when you startup, does your devices not have ip addresses ?
[12:49] <mauro`> where do i get support ? i mean SUPPORT .. ? like, I've asked about 2000 thousand people and not even one of them bothered to reply, where is famous ubuntu support ?
[12:49] <Andycass1> ikonia: yes, exacly
[12:49] <Rezagrats> Cwillu, im not getting anything
[12:49] <Neeku> sarmisak: i googled before coming here, but i couldnt find anything useful
[12:49] <jrib> !patience | mauro`
[12:49] <ubotu> mauro`: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:49] <cwillu> Rezagrats, sudo lsof | grep -i dsp ?
[12:49] <gurpreet> serenityUK,  its showing "Version: 1:1.1.1~git-20070709-3ubuntu1" i want in terms of nfs3/4
[12:49] <sarmisak> mauro`: what's the complaint?
[12:50] <mauro`> sarmisak: do u want me to query it to u or will i put it here again ?
[12:50] <Andycass1> ikonia: hold on, ill give you the ifconfig when i cant get the ip
[12:50] <gurpreet> serenityUK, coz i wanna know how to add entries in /etc/exports, in format of nfs3 or nfs4
[12:50] <Andycass1> ikonia: here: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/netlog
[12:51]  * cwillu saw mauro` ask a question, get linked to another location, and look happy about it;  he wonders what he missed
[12:51] <Rezagrats> Cwillu, http://pastebin.com/d1b0f96e3
[12:51] <sarmisak> no queries, if someone runs into the same problem they might need the answer
[12:51] <ikonia> Andycass1: have you done "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" scince your changes ?
[12:51]  * mauro` went to another location where is about 140 people, he wonders that if he got one reply out of 1200 people, how many replies he'd get out of 140 people..
[12:52] <cwillu> Rezagrats, okay, some java applet or program is grabbing the sound
[12:52] <Rezagrats> Yeah youtube
[12:52] <cwillu> Rezagrats, killall java_vm should do the trick
[12:52] <ikonia> mauro`: this is an ubuntu support channel - please don't post random pointless chatter or "/me" commands
[12:52] <jrib> mauro`: you don't seem to have understood ubotu's message
[12:52] <cwillu> Rezagrats, but that'll close whatever java app that is
[12:52] <cwillu> Rezagrats, youtube is flash, not java
[12:52] <ikonia> mauro`: I advised you this is not a hardware support channel and gave you the correct channel
[12:52] <Rezagrats> Runescape
[12:53] <mauro`> all right, no one seems to be helpful over there, can you please redirect me somewhere else ?:)
[12:53] <ikonia> mauro`: no
[12:53] <sarmisak> mauro`: it's an acpi thing
[12:53] <cwillu> mauro`, 1200 aren't actually watching the channel, and alot of them are here for help as well.  going to more specific channels is better because the people there are more likely to have an answer.  smaller channels usually do better with tougher problems
[12:53] <Rezagrats> Cwillu, after i do that will i be able to re-open the java ( in this case Runescape )
[12:53] <ikonia> mauro`: hardware is the channel - this is ubuntu support, not "channel info"
[12:53] <sarmisak> mauro`: some pcs support it well, some don't, you are on your own, sorry for that.
[12:53] <mauro`> sarmisak: thank You anyway :)
[12:53] <sarmisak> try disabling acpi functions in the bios and see what changes
[12:54] <cwillu> Rezagrats, hmm.  it's a bit tricky.  yes, you can reload it, but I'd run something like totem or rhythmbox first just so that esd kicks in and grabs the device
[12:54] <cwillu> Rezagrats, I think there's a trick you can do, but I don't know it off hand (or any details on it really)
[12:54] <cwillu> Rezagrats, if you know which app it is, you could just close it normally, and that should suffice to get sound back
[12:55] <firestorm> Howdy. Any VNC users here? Wondering whether it can be used to share a desktop in (a) view-only mode and (b) remote-control mode ?
[12:55] <cwillu> firestorm, yes and yes
[12:55] <soulburner> hello everybody :)
[12:55] <firestorm> cwillu: how can I configure it...any good setup guides?
[12:55] <sarmisak> firestorm: system > preferences > remote desktop
[12:55] <cwillu> !vnc
[12:55] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:56] <serenityUK> gurpreet, it seems to support 3 or 4 but the docs refer to version 4 so I would try that.. such as http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-ubuntu-nfs-server-configuration-howto/
[12:56] <cwillu> firestorm, I think the remote access item in the admin or prefs menu will do what yoru want
[12:56] <muty-bg> Does anyone knows an application that can rip DVDs to mpeg2?
[12:57] <gurpreet> i was referring to "https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/network-file-system.html" for help, but its option no_root_squash seems to be not supported
[12:57] <firestorm> cwillu: not running KDE or GNOME...is there a command line I can run to bring up that same admin menu?
[12:57] <sarmisak> muty-bg: have you tried apt-cache search dvd?
[12:57] <ikonia> muty-bg: mencoder, acidrip, dvd::rip thre are tons, have a search
[12:57] <cwillu> firestorm, what are you running?
[12:58] <max__> lol
[12:58] <firestorm> cwillu: ubuntu / xdm / fluxbox
[12:58] <gurpreet> serenityUK,  i was referring to "https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/network-file-system.html" for help, but its option no_root_squash seems to be not supported
[12:58] <max__> hi all
[12:58] <muty-bg> ikonia: I tried them all they are only encoding in mpeg4 :S
[12:58] <gurpreet> serenityUK, may be that was due to presence of space between options
[12:59] <serenityUK> gurpreet, i have not used nfs i use ssh, but they seem to need commas without spaces for options
[12:59] <cwillu> firestorm, vino-preferences
[12:59] <ikonia> muty-bg you can set your encoding options
[12:59] <SleepingSloth> does anyone here run an irc client with a transparent background, and if so, what client allows it?
[13:00] <max__> anyone know why ifconfig ath0 down doesn't work?
[13:00] <cwillu> SleepingSloth, xchat-gtk
[13:00] <serenityUK> max sudo?
[13:00] <Wi1d> SleepingSloth: irssi in a transparent termincal
[13:00] <max__> well, I did
[13:00] <SleepingSloth> cwillu, thanks
[13:00] <max__> sudo ifconfig ath0 down
[13:00] <firestorm> cwillu: legend!
[13:00] <muty-bg> ikonia: yes but no option for mpeg2, dvd:rip looks very promising if only I knew hot make it transcode to mpeg2
[13:00] <cwillu> firestorm, ?
[13:00] <SleepingSloth> Wild,n
[13:01] <Rezagrats> Plrinter not printing, anyone have an idea ?
[13:01] <ikonia> muty-bg: if you have the codecs installed you should be able to just select it
[13:01] <hk2999> how do i get unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic? there wasn't even a warning.
[13:01] <SleepingSloth> sorry Wild- thanks.
[13:01]  * cwillu resists the urge to suggest checking for paper
[13:01] <ikonia> hk2999: join #ubuntu-ops and speak to the guy who banned you if possible
[13:01] <cwillu> why where you banned?
[13:02] <hk2999> i don't know.
[13:02] <hk2999> i was just calling sabdfl the next revolutionary
[13:02] <max__> is there anything else conrol the aht0?
[13:02] <ikonia> hk2999: well, ask in #ubuntu-ops for support
[13:02] <hk2999> ok thanks
[13:02] <Rezagrats> Cwillu, the printer isn't even begining to print, i give the command, but nothing at alll happens, the printer is on, the ink is new, adequite amount of paper
[13:02] <muty-bg> ikonia: I have ffmpeg installed and it lets me select it but no mpeg2 option actually I'm able to do it if I firrst rib the vobs and then convert them to mpeg2 with ffmpeg from the console
[13:02] <cwillu> Rezagrats, I hate printers
[13:03] <Rezagrats> Ditto
[13:03] <max__> anyone got idea how to deal with my ath0
[13:03] <ikonia> muty-bg: may be a limitation of the gui
[13:03] <ikonia> max__: deal with it ?
[13:03] <cwillu> max__, what are you trying to do?
[13:03] <ikonia> max__: asking every 10 seconds is the best way to be ignored fyi:
[13:03]  * cwillu wonders if max__ wants a hit on it
[13:03] <max__> I tried to turn it down
[13:03] <serenityUK> max__, you can use ifdown and ifup but I think they do the same thing.. . sudo ifdown ath0
[13:03] <max__> yes
[13:04] <muty-bg> ikonia: I think so too :( too bad since I have to rip 200 dvds for a VOD server I'm setting up right now :(
[13:04] <max__> I did that, then after 1 sec, I use ifconfig to check that
[13:04] <SleepingSloth> cwillu, no sign in the repos... only xchat-gnome
[13:04] <max__> the ath0 still there
[13:04] <ikonia> muty-bg: I scripted it with menocder
[13:04] <cwillu> SleepingSloth, sorry, that's the one
[13:04] <ikonia> max__: ifconfig is diffrent to ifdown
[13:04] <SleepingSloth> cwillu, ah,ok
[13:05] <serenityUK> SleepingSloth, normal xchat will do transparent bg,  xchat-gnome is similar but less option - a simpler interface
[13:05] <max__> ok, I try that, give me sec.
[13:05] <max__> thx anyway bro.
[13:05] <firestorm> cwillu: legend, as in good on ya mate - it works
[13:05] <cwillu> ah, k :p
[13:05] <cwillu> legend = good on ya mate = it works
[13:06] <SleepingSloth> serenityUK, i'd like it to appear log-like on my background... i'll have todig around options i guess
[13:06]  * cwillu feels like he just learned 2 languages there :p
[13:06] <firestorm> hehe
[13:06] <hk2999> so is there no way to get unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic/how long does the ban last?
[13:06] <firestorm> aussie != english
[13:07] <cwillu> hk2999, did you miss the #ubuntu-ops line?
[13:07] <dgjones> hk2999, you need to speak to the people in #ubuntu-ops and discuss it with them when they're available, they're the only ones that can remove any ban
[13:07] <serenityUK> SleepingSloth, you could always use a terminal based client like irssi and set the terminal to transparent...  if you use  xfce-terminal you can disable the borders too!.. you can use xfce-terminal in gnome ok
[13:07] <gurpreet> serenityUK, yes, i tried without commas and nfs started without any erorrs
[13:07] <SleepingSloth> serenity- thanks, i'll look into it
[13:07] <ikonia> hk2999: you've been told what to do
[13:07] <gurpreet> but i still don't know the version of my nfs server
[13:07] <ikonia> hk2999: stop asking in here, this is a support channel, go to ubuntu-ops and gain support
[13:08] <hk2999> ok
[13:08] <gurpreet> though not really required but i am just curious
[13:08] <ikonia> hk2999: being off topic in this channel won't help you argue your case in #ubuntu-ops
[13:08] <serenityUK> gurpreet, good luck, the info text says it supports 3 and 4... i think they are just protocols
[13:09] <gurpreet> serenityUK, thanks pal
[13:09] <Andycass1> ikonia: sorry i was away
[13:09] <ikonia> Andycass1: no problem
[13:10] <Andycass1> ikonia: Im still having this issue, i did restart my network interface but nothing
[13:10] <Myiasia> Hmm.. I see "New distribution release '7.10 is available".. however, last time I attempted to "upgrade" with my laptop, the install was destroyed.. I'm leery of doing that since this computer didn't even want to install Gutsy in the first place.
[13:10] <Myiasia> Thoughts on that?
[13:10] <mohbana> hi guys i making icalendar sort of program but i need to verify if my .ics file is correctly formatted, what programs allows me to add dates from a .ics file?
[13:10] <cwillu> Myiasia, probably wise
[13:10] <Andycass1> ikonia: ifconfig eth1 shows up nice, just like it should be, but ifconfig eth1:1 doesnt have ip or mask
[13:10] <max__> ikonia: ifdown not working as well
[13:11] <bullgard4> Why prints 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' different values for domain, server and master than 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[13:11] <ikonia> Andycass1: so eth1 now has the correct address - but eth1:1 doesn't
[13:11] <cwillu> Myiasia, if you have another machine/drive with enough space to back the laptop up, you could try it and roll back if it doesn't work, but otherwise, I wouldn't if you had problems before
[13:11] <ikonia> max__: you need to give people more info than "not working well"
[13:11] <Andycass1> ikonia: yup
[13:11] <serenityUK> mohbana, I think google calender supports .ics  you could try online if you have gmail account
[13:11] <cwillu> Myiasia, unless you tried a prerelease of gutsy, in which case try booting a livecd again and see if it works mostly
[13:11] <mohbana> serenityUK, i need an offline application please :)
[13:11] <max__> sry, it give me a replay" ifdown: interface ath0 not configured"
[13:12] <verminn> Hello
[13:12] <ikonia> max__: you'll find ath0 is just a reference to say eth1 which is the physical card
[13:12] <verminn> how can i install the man pages for all the posix functions?
[13:12] <phiqtion> what's the best prog to create an Audio CD?
[13:12] <verminn> i am missing some, like pthread_*
[13:12] <ikonia> Andycass1: add "audo eth1:1"
[13:13] <serenityUK> mohbana, have you tried sunbird?   the mozilla calender from the makers of firefox?
[13:13] <max__> lol. how to find a physical card? is there a command to do that?
[13:13] <ikonia> Andycass1: to the interfaces file "auto eth1:1"
[13:13] <phiqtion> what's the best prog to create an Audio CD?
[13:14] <adobongkangkong> phiqtion : try k3b
[13:14] <tapas> hi, i'm trying to build edgy's 2.4 libc source package with some modifications
[13:14] <tapas> to get it to boot on a 2.4.x kernel
[13:14] <max__> ikonia: could I find out the phy card by  ifconfig ?
[13:14] <tapas> [i know hald etc, won't work, but i don't care so much ;)]
[13:14] <verminn> how can i install the man pages for all the posix functions? im missing some like pthread_*
[13:14] <ikonia> max__: eth0 will be your ethernet card eth1 will be your wirless probably
[13:15] <ikonia> verminn: not all have man pages
[13:15] <gurpreet> how can i restart the network without restarting the whole system?
[13:15] <ikonia> gurpreet: what do you want to restart ?
[13:15] <ikonia> gurpreet: sudo /etc/init.t/networking restart
[13:15] <verminn> ikonia: ? what?
 sudo ifdown <ethname> then sudo ifup <ethname>
[13:15] <ikonia> gurpreet: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:15] <ikonia> hk2999: no - thats not correct
[13:15] <SleepingSloth> gurpreet: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:16] <SleepingSloth> heh
[13:16] <verminn> ikonia: oh..
[13:16] <hk2999> oh
[13:16] <verminn> ikonia: but there are man pages for pthread_
[13:16] <verminn> you can see them in freebsd, opengroup, etc
[13:16] <ikonia> verminn: they may be in a seperate package ?
[13:16] <verminn> that is what i am asking
[13:16] <verminn> the name of hte package
[13:17] <ikonia> verminn: I'm only aware of the core man page package in ubuntu, use synaptic to search
[13:17] <avril> hello there
[13:17] <ikonia> Andycass1: did you add auto eth1:1  ?
[13:17] <serenityUK> welcome
[13:17] <max__> ikonia: I think ath0 must be the one. cause  that's the only one shows when I use ifconfig to check
[13:17] <ikonia> max__: please put "ifconfig -a" into a pastebin please.
[13:18] <verminn> ikonia: found it, it's called 'glibc-doc'
[13:18] <verminn> thanks
[13:18] <ikonia> max__: what exactly do you want to achieve - what is your end goal ?
[13:18] <ikonia> rats
[13:18] <gurpreet> i tried it, but its not working
[13:18] <Myiasia> Well.. my laptop was running 7.10 just fine, but I found the machine couldn't handle it well.
[13:18] <ikonia> gurpreet: what's not working, more detail please.
[13:19] <Myiasia> I actually decided to go back to Windows 98 SE for it just because it seems to run the best on that laptop.
[13:19] <max__> turn the card to mointer mod
[13:19] <serenityUK> gurpreet, you can restart nsf seperately if that is your goal?
[13:19] <ikonia> max__: iwconfig will controll wirless functions on that device
[13:19] <gurpreet> hk2999, ikonia SleepingSloth the problem is that when i started my  laptop i forgot to switch on the wifi switch, now once it is started and i do /etc/networking/restart its not starting the wifi
[13:19] <Codenut> how do I get audio to function on VLC player
[13:20] <ikonia> gurpreet: no one told you to do that
[13:20] <OmegaCenti> Yep, I fail. I cannot get this comparable %^&* to work for the life of me.
[13:20] <ikonia> gurpreet: the command is "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[13:20] <gurpreet> ikonia, yes i did same. it said "*Reconfiguring network interface... [OK]" but it dont start wifi
[13:20] <Andycass1> ikonia: i got "ignoring unknown interface eth1:1=eth1:1." when i tried restarting network interfaces
[13:21] <ikonia> gurpreet: does iwconfig show your wirless card, has your wirless card ever workd ?
[13:21] <ikonia> Andycass1: thats odd.
[13:21] <ikonia> Andycass1: try auto eth1
[13:21] <ikonia> Andycass1: rahter than eth1:1
[13:21] <BlueEyes_Jhb> Hi All, I have just donloaded 7.10 and written the ISO to CD, however I cant see a way to do a text install or any form of install without having to first go the live cd route ?
[13:21] <Andycass1> ikonia: i already have this in my conf
[13:21] <gurpreet> ikonia, yes wfconfig shows it as ath0, it always work but i always have to restart system to start wifi
[13:22] <max__> ikonia: iwconfig can't turn the card to moniter mod."SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[13:22] <max__> " will be given
[13:22] <ikonia> BlueEyes_Jhb: text installation is done via the alternative cd
[13:22] <ikonia> max__: then the synatax is wrong
[13:22] <K_Nine> jrib: Thanks. I now have Konversation set up and I don't see the constant join/part notifications. I really like that, which I couldn't figure out how to do in X-Chat Gnome.
[13:22] <ikonia> gurpreet: probably the module wasn't loaded for it, modprobe the correct kernel modules
[13:22] <gurpreet> ikonia, because most of time i forget to switch wifi ON before starting the system and then i have to restart the system
[13:22] <muty-bg> ikonia: ok I got it with a single console command now, works pretty well :)
[13:23] <jrib> K_Nine: it's possible (but I don't know how offhand)
[13:23] <ikonia> muty-bg: so a limit of the guy then
[13:23] <ikonia> s/guy/gui
[13:23] <max__> ikonia: sry, I don't get it? wat syntax? the ath0?
[13:24] <K_Nine> jrib:  Plus you can control so much more in Konverstion.
[13:24] <ikonia> max__: the command is complaining that the syntax of your command is wrong
[13:24] <BlueEyes_Jhb> Ok so from a live cd installation no matter what partition configuration I try I always get the error: The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed
[13:24] <ikonia> max__: or that card does not support that funciotn in linux
[13:24] <jrib> K_Nine: k, everyone should use what they like of course.  Glad you got it to work
[13:24] <gurpreet> ikonia, i don't know which specific module is needed, though 8139too module is loaded
[13:25] <Myiasia> Okay. Runlevels.
[13:25] <ikonia>  gurpreet I don't know what module is needed - look at what's loaded now, restart then look at whats loaded with wifi on, and compare
[13:25] <Myiasia> I need to make a custom runlevel so I can install my nVidia drivers without having it complain about anything.
[13:26] <gurpreet> ikonia, right idea, doing same
[13:26] <BlueEyes_Jhb> is there a way to wipe the hard drive clean before live cd starts ?
[13:26] <Myiasia> What's the best way to go about this?
[13:26] <jrib> !nvidia > myiasia (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:26] <lostatsee> Good morning to all yall out there.
[13:26] <ikonia> BlueEyes_Jhb: you don't need to, when you format it with the linux file system you'll be fine
[13:26] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: Ok so from a live cd installation no matter what partition configuration I try I always get the error: The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) failed
[13:26] <Myiasia> hehe
[13:26] <Myiasia> Well, I still want that runlevel. :p
[13:26] <ikonia> BlueEyes_Jhb: are you resizing at all ?
[13:26] <jrib> Myiasia: why?
[13:27] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: tried resizing and using full drive
[13:27] <lostatsee> I am trying to figure out how to boot directly into a program bypassing GNOME or any other heavy desktop. The program I am trying to boot directly into is called AdvMenu which in turn is the frontend for AdvMame. Anyone here good with this sort of thing?
[13:27] <Myiasia> Need it to not start GDM/X11, and to close GDM/X11 when switched to it.
[13:27] <ikonia> BlueEyes_Jhb: nothing fancy like raid being used
[13:27] <max__> ikonia: is it correct ? "sudo iwconfig ath0 mode Monitor" I checked man page, It should be fine.
[13:28] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: nothing at all, 7.40 was running on this machine an hour ago
[13:28] <jrib> Myiasia: read 'man update-rc.d' then I suppose
[13:28] <ikonia> BlueEyes_Jhb: very odd, no other warnings errors, nothing on the console (alt+f2/3/4/5) warning wise
[13:29] <tapas> how can i tell dpkg-buildpackage that it shall only build the package for a certain architecture?
[13:29]  * Myiasia RTFM. XD
[13:30] <Myiasia> Aaah.. yes.
[13:30] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: nope console sits at normal login
[13:30] <Myiasia> Oh, and another reason I wanted to do this is in case I screw my X server up, jrib. :p
[13:30] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master than 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[13:30] <jrib> Myiasia: you can always get to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1
[13:31] <soulburner> hello everybody, i've got a little problem with gparted, i can mount my 4 partitions of my second hdd but gparted say that all space is unallocated
[13:31] <K_Nine> Is there a way to make the icons (and maybe the height) of the task bar larger?
[13:31] <Myiasia> Yeah, I know.. but switching runlevels makes it easy for me to kill things I screw up and bring them back up again with a simple init blah. :p
[13:31] <K_Nine> Icons on the task bar.
[13:32] <jrib> Myiasia: check out sysv-rc-conf after you finish reading that man page
[13:32] <Andycass1> ikonia: Here is my conf: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/netconf, heres my log after restarting: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/netlog
[13:33] <nicola_> !list
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[13:33] <Myiasia> I'm a tinkerer. I have yet to really perma-kill a Linux install, but I do have a bad habit of breaking things when I start tweaking. Fortunately, I make backups often.
[13:33] <ikonia> Andycass1: eth1 doesn't have an address
[13:33] <ikonia> Andycass1: I thought you said eth1 had an address ?
[13:33] <jrib> Myiasia: tinker in virtual bok :)
[13:33] <jrib> virtual box even
[13:33] <Myiasia> hehe
[13:34] <soulburner> i've got a little problem with gparted, i can mount my 4 partitions of my second hdd but gparted say that all space is unallocated
[13:34] <SANTAbios> how do i remove ssh
[13:34] <ikonia> SANTAbios: server or client ?
[13:34] <SANTAbios> my ssh is screwed it wont respond how to i remove it
[13:34] <Andycass1> ikonia: no, refresh those links
[13:34] <SANTAbios> server
[13:35] <SANTAbios> ikonia ---server
[13:35] <Myiasia> Ooooh, shiny.
[13:35] <Myiasia> Thanks, jrib! :)
[13:35] <ikonia> SANTAbios: apt-get remove openssh-server
[13:35] <Myiasia> Hmm.
[13:35] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: i'm going to download text-install
[13:35] <Myiasia> Runlevels 3-5 are all the same.
[13:35] <ikonia> Andycass1: That doesn't make any sense......thas very odd
[13:36] <jrib> Myiasia: 2-5 should be identical, as in debian
[13:36] <Myiasia> 2 has one extra check.
[13:36] <Myiasia> In "stop-read$"
[13:37]  * Myiasia makes runlevel 5 not use GDM and such.
[13:39] <soulburner> nobody can help me ?
[13:39] <guoye> hello
[13:39] <cyberjames> soulburner: what's the issue?
[13:39] <SANTAbios> ikonia- which file is it i edit to change the port for my ssh server?
[13:39] <soulburner> i can mount my 4 partitions of my second hdd but gparted say that all space is unallocated
[13:40] <coolbhavi> Hello
[13:40] <cyberjames> what kind of partition are those?
[13:40] <SANTAbios> ikonia- which file is it i edit to change the port for my ssh server?
[13:40] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: I tried to go into System - Partitioner and I get an error The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables... Because you only have limited acess to these devices...
[13:40] <jrib> SANTAbios: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[13:40] <SANTAbios> thanks
[13:40] <cyberjames> soulburner: what kind of partition are those?
[13:40] <coolbhavi> is It possible to use ubuntu desktop drivers on ubuntu server?
[13:40] <soulburner> 3 ntfs and 1 fat32, but all can be mounted
[13:41] <ikonia> coolbhavi: it is yes, but if you need a gui it's better to install the desktop version from the CD
[13:41] <guoye> who are you？
[13:41] <Andycass1> ikonia: I enabled roaming mode from network admin tool and now it doesnt have ip on any of the interfaces
[13:41] <cyberjames> soulburner: use ntfs-3g
[13:41] <ikonia> coolbhavi: Andycass1 are these wirless cards ?
[13:41] <cyberjames> coolbhavi: yes
[13:41] <Ette> anyone know if linux has a telnet client?
[13:41] <coolbhavi> how to do it
[13:41] <ikonia> Ette: yes
[13:41] <mopflite> Ette: yes - telnet ;-)
[13:41] <coolbhavi> any links
[13:41] <cyberjames> Ette: use command line :)
[13:41] <coolbhavi> ?
[13:41] <soulburner> yes i know i ust it to mount partition but gparded sazy that all space are unallocated
[13:41] <ikonia> coolbhavi: why are you runninb the server edition ?
[13:42] <Ette> doh >>
[13:42] <ikonia> coolbhavi: as in what was your purpose for selecting the server edition
[13:42] <Mr-LonelY> Ette: prefer ssh
[13:42] <Andycass1> ikonia: sorry, it seems it gave eth1:1 ip to eth1... No they are not wifi cards
[13:42] <mopflite> anthony@catfish:~$ which telnet
[13:42] <mopflite> /usr/bin/telnet
[13:42] <SANTAbios> jrib --- do i have to restart ssh server for port forwarding to be in effect?
[13:42] <ikonia> Andycass1: how can you have roaming mode on non-wifi cards ?
[13:42] <cyberjames> Ette: man telnet
[13:42] <ikonia> SANTAbios: ssh has nothing to do with port forwarding
[13:42] <ikonia> SANTAbios: something else should deal with portforwarding
[13:42] <coolbhavi> I have set up my own server and I am testing it out
[13:42] <BlueEyes_Jhb> livecd sucks ass :(
[13:43] <ikonia> coolbhavi: but why the server edition
[13:43] <Andycass1> ikonia: I dont know, its just that option in admin gui you can tick...
[13:43] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master than 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[13:43] <ikonia> coolbhavi: the desktop edition can do all the server edition can for most situations
[13:43] <coolbhavi> I am using ubuntu 7.10..
[13:43] <ikonia> coolbhavi: but why are you using the server install, and not the desktop
[13:43] <coolbhavi> oh I didnt know that
[13:43] <mopflite> 7.10 rocks - it has a couple of odd installation gotchas though in my experience
[13:43] <soulburner> cyberjames: i use ntfs-3g to mount, all right, but when i try to use gparted to format a partition, it say that all my hdb is empty, but the 4 partition are mounted ^^
[13:43] <ikonia> coolbhavi: you'll find the desktop edtition much better for home use on a lot of fronts
[13:44] <cyberjames> soulburner: you have files in hdb?
[13:44] <coolbhavi> Ok but I am curious to know
[13:45] <cyberjames> soulburner: is the hdb ext3?
[13:45] <ikonia> coolbhavi: curious to know what ?
[13:45] <pepperjack> coolbhavi: sadly you will be less cool if you install using the desktop cd.
[13:45] <ikonia> coolbhavi: install the desktop edition, you'll find it a better learning tool and it more suited to home use
[13:45] <ikonia> pepperjack: don't make statments like that
[13:45] <soulburner> cyberjames: yes i have many files ^^ and is fat32 and ntfs
[13:45] <ikonia> pepperjack: some people believe it
[13:45] <coolbhavi> Please tell me the answer to my question
[13:45] <ikonia> coolbhavi: install it via synaptic
[13:46] <ikonia> coolbhavi: that is the answer to your question
[13:46] <gurpreet> ikonia, i've checked, there is no difference of modules loaded in wifi enabled and wifi disabled state
[13:46] <coolbhavi> which package?
[13:46] <ikonia> coolbhavi: however as a learning tool I suggest you use the desktop edition as the gui is more intergrated and bonus's like restricted driver compatiblilty for example works
[13:46] <ikonia> coolbhavi: if you can't figure out the names of obvious packages - you should not be running the server edition
[13:46] <unilynx> Anyone know much on getting 5th Gen iPod's working correctly in Rhythimbox? I ran mine fine under Amarok, but when I did this it screwed up my play counts very much when I would go over and upen the iPod again in iTunes.
[13:46] <Andycass1> ikonia: this is so weird, so now i disabled roaming mode, put it dhcp and restarted it, got buncha errors and stuff and when i try ifconfig the eth1:1 has correct ip but eth1 doesnt have ip anymore?
[13:46] <cyberjames> soulburner: hdb should only 1 file system.. if it is ntfs use ntfs-3g and fat32 use fat32..
[13:47] <Andycass1> ikonia: only ipv6 ip
[13:47] <ikonia> Andycass1: eth1 wo'nt have an ip as it will want one from the dhcp server
[13:47] <ikonia> Andycass1: your getting an ip6 addresss ?
[13:47] <Andycass1> ikonia: yes.
[13:47] <ikonia> Andycass1: something is very wrong with your neworking setup
[13:47] <bazhang> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod also for gtkpod unilynx
[13:47] <Andycass1> ikonia: but no ipv4 address
[13:47] <pepperjack> coolbhavi: if you decide to stay with server and have some questions you can /join #ubuntu-server  a few of us are in there
[13:47] <ikonia> Andycass1: unless you have a dhcp server offering up ipv6
[13:47] <unilynx> bazhang: thanks
[13:47] <bazhang> np
[13:47] <soulburner> cyberjames: on hdb i've 4 partitions 1 fat32 and 3 ntfs ...
[13:47] <coolbhavi> I am an ubuntu member a top contributor to the community.. I can identify packages I think so.. :)
[13:48] <cyberjames> soulburner: ah ok
[13:48] <Andycass1> ikonia: no i dont have dhcp that offers ipv6
[13:48] <ikonia> coolbhavi:  top contributor to the community ? where ?
[13:48] <ikonia> Andycass1 so where is the ipv6 address coming from ?
[13:49] <Andycass1> ikonia: that bloody thing worked before just fine, is there a way to clean this all up and start over?
[13:49] <soulburner> cyberjames: and gparted don't see anything on hdb
[13:49] <Andycass1> ikonia: no idea!
[13:49] <coolbhavi> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors
[13:49] <ikonia> Andycass1: my suggestion (may not be best) delete your interfaces file - reboot with a borked network setup, configure it via the gui - reboot and then see what is in the file
[13:49] <coolbhavi> Bhavani Shankar is the reference.. :)
[13:50] <Jay955> hi all
[13:51] <moDumass> hey all, any one know of a good sound generator in ubuntu. in windows i used to use "tinnitus masker"?
[13:51] <ikonia> coolbhavi but none of that appears technical contribution ?
[13:51] <Jay955> i finally got my secondary hard drive mounted
[13:51] <moDumass> anything similar in linux land?
[13:51] <ikonia> actually thats -offtopic - forget I said anything
[13:51] <tapas> moDumass: what do you need?
[13:51] <tapas> moDumass: just a sine wave at a specific frequency?
[13:51] <coolbhavi> I am working on UMC..
[13:51] <soc> hi
[13:52] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master than 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[13:52] <Jay955> now i have it shared but still can't get to it from the xp side
[13:52] <moDumass> tapas, hmm, that may work, im looking for something that proceedurally creates rain sound, or ocean waves?
[13:52] <cyberjames> soulburner: sorry don't know to fix it.. maybe you have to use other tools rather than gparted..
[13:53] <K_Nine> moDumass:  Try downloading the Latest Musix Live DVD. There are many on that you can try and then add to your distro.
[13:53] <nix> when i try to install ccsm thro terminal i can't. anyone know y?
[13:53] <pepperjack> nix: what error do you get?
[13:53] <moDumass> K_nine : musix run in ubuntu gutsy?
[13:54] <Jay955> i see the server on the windows side but it asking me for a user and password
[13:54] <nix> pepperjack: couldn't find package
[13:54] <bazhang> nix what is the command you use
[13:54] <nix> bazhang: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:54] <K_Nine> It's a live DVD.
[13:54] <geek-inside-corp> hello all
[13:54] <bazhang> nix do you have the first four repos enabled?
[13:55] <cyberjames> geek-inside-corp: hey
[13:55] <Karlo>  Best girls in the world - http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139655440
[13:55] <nix> bazhang: ?
[13:55] <bazhang> Karlo: not here
[13:55] <nix> bazhang: u mean the updates?
[13:55] <Daviey> !ops | Karlo
[13:55] <ubotu> Karlo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[13:55] <tapas> moDumass: well, there's quite a few sound creation / composition packages
[13:55] <tapas> moDumass: supercollider, chuck, ingenuity, etc..
[13:56] <Seveas> nalioth, -- he want to be on the k-line train
[13:56] <moDumass> tapas, its cool, im just reading what its all about
[13:56] <rzavala> saludos
[13:56] <moDumass> thanks
[13:56] <bazhang> nix open up synaptic and then enable the first four repos--hit reload and then look again for it--you can also apt-cache search from the terminal
[13:56] <nix> bazhang: what u mean by repos?
[13:57] <K_Nine> moDumass:  Try this page http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=musix
[13:57] <bazhang> nix: do you know synaptic package manager?
[13:57] <nix> bazhang: yes
[13:57] <bazhang> nix open it up and then look in the menus for the word repositories
[13:57] <tapas> moDumass: you might want to just fire off an email about this to the suopercollider email list
[13:58] <tapas> moDumass: i'm sure there's some eager person that wants to help :)
[13:58] <bazhang> nix you want to enable the first four and disable your cd as a software installation source=repository (repo)
[13:58] <nix> bazhang: the only one i dont have is the adept manager and when i click it it wont let me install
[13:58] <tapas> OleMoudi: http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
[13:58] <moDumass> thanks
[13:58] <tapas> oops
[13:58] <tapas> moDumass: http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
[13:59] <Zhaozhou> May i ask where apt-get source puts it's sources?
[13:59] <moDumass> hey thatnks for the help all,
[13:59] <bazhang> nix once you have done that you need to update your sources list--adept is the same
[13:59] <tapas> Zhaozhou: either in /usr/src/ or the current directory
[13:59] <Zhaozhou> tapas: too easy. :D thank you!
[13:59] <bazhang> nix what is the error that adept is giving you
[13:59] <nix> bazhang: nevermind i found it
[13:59] <dundel> does anybody have experience with connecting the Phililps SHB6100 bluetooth headset with ubuntu
[14:00] <nix> bazhang: thx
[14:00] <Jay955> how can i share a hd in utunbu so i can see it in xp with read/write
[14:00] <bazhang> nix good work np
[14:00] <Kloss> my burner is not burning. WHY?
[14:01] <bazhang> kloss need more info--what error message if any
[14:01] <huseyinkozan> i want all contents of kdevelop assistant can reachable while i am offline
[14:01] <marfusha> Here there is a person who developed console-setup ?
[14:01] <huseyinkozan> how can i do it
[14:02] <bashca> can i use gxine on ubuntu ??
[14:02] <Kloss> bazhang: see also here. please use an translating service for this page http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/149052/?highlight= There is a link with an error message.
[14:02] <bazhang> marfusha: doubtful
[14:02] <marfusha> bazhang thx
[14:02] <bashca> !gxine
[14:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:03] <bazhang> #ubuntu-devel perhaps marfusha
[14:03] <huseyinkozan> which packages i have to install it for it
[14:03] <Kloss> !ubotu
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[14:03] <bazhang> kloss how about you just tell me
[14:04] <osxdude|linux> SNOW DAY!!! hahaha
[14:04] <Jay955> how can i share a hd in utunbu so i can see it in xp with read/write
[14:04] <bazhang> kloss is this k3b brasero cd/dvd creator; what are you trying to burn
[14:04] <osxdude|linux> i just had to amsg that :P
[14:05] <huseyinkozan> i want all contents of kdevelop assistant can reachable while i am offline
[14:05] <huseyinkozan> does anyoneknows which packages ihave to install
[14:05] <cpk1> argh trying to compile madwifi from svn and make errors out T.T
[14:06] <Kloss> bazhang: it try to burn a data dvd-r. i use k3b therefore. but also any other application did not work. it says it burns a certain time. the light at my burner is turned on. but actually it is doing nothing. and in the middle of the process it says: error.
[14:07] <cpk1> Jay955: samba would probably be the easiest thing to use
[14:08] <Kloss> bazhang: it tried it from my external and from my internal drive. :(
[14:08] <bazhang> kloss did you put in a blank dvd r and then let the system prompt you what to do? also what media
[14:08] <Myiasia> Argh. 800x600@60Hz burns retinas! Just installed the nVidia drivers, and the resolution won't go any higher. I'm used to 1600x1200@85Hz. </spoiled>
 i have that the drive is shared but it's asking me for user and password on the xp side
[14:09] <dfgas> k, i installed the nvidia-glx-new but i don't see the new kernel, just the new kernel source. what do i need to install cause the glx and kernel at this moment version mismatch
[14:09] <bazhang> what about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Myiasia
[14:09] <cpk1> Jay955: try leaving it blank or use a user on the linux box
[14:10] <Kloss> bazhang: also tried that. but it starts cd/dvd creator, but is also not working. it is about the same performance.
 will not work i tried that
[14:10] <bazhang> kloss you have two dvd burners attached?
[14:11] <nix> anyone know where i get art manager?
[14:11] <Kloss> bazhang: i have 1 dvd/cd burner and 1 normal cd drive (read only).
[14:11] <cpk1> Jay955: pastebin your samba config
[14:12] <bazhang> kloss where is the data you are copying from the internal or external hd (if you have one)
 pastebin your samb config ?? new to all this
[14:13] <Kloss> it is on the external right now. but also tried it from the internal once. it also did not work.
[14:13] <Kloss> bazhang: my burner is from LG
[14:13] <bazhang> kloss this is mystifying--the external drive is the burner?
[14:13] <nix> what program is best for working with sound bytes, ie chopping, adding, customizing?
[14:14] <cpk1> Jay955: pastebin /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:14] <phuzion> any explanation as to why build-essential is taking forever to install on my server?
[14:14] <phuzion> er, download to(
[14:14] <Kloss> bazhang: no. i tried to burn from external to dvd burner. and i also tried to burn the same data from internal to dvd burner. all did not work.
[14:15] <bazhang> kloss uh sorry the lg is external or internal
[14:15] <phuzion> the packages are downloading at about 40K/s right now for some reason
[14:15] <K_Nine> I just read that Gnome 2.22 was released this week. How is this handled by Ubuntu?
[14:15] <Kloss> bazhang: the lg burner is internal. and i have 2 harddrives (1 internal and one external, from both i could not burn). see?
[14:15] <Myiasia> Okay. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/d7e13106f ?
[14:16] <phuzion> osxdude|linux, i assume you're somewhere in the midwest or northeast?
[14:16] <bazhang> kloss at a loss here not sure how to proceed
[14:16] <osxdude> Yes, phuzion
[14:17] <dgjones> K_Nine, it might get brought into the next version of Ubuntu, but wouldn't normally be put forward as an update ro Gutsy unless it was packaged into backports
[14:17] <Kloss> bazhang: thanky ou anywy
[14:17] <osxdude|linux> Yes, phuzion
[14:18] <nounouille> hi
[14:18] <nounouille> i have created a new partition "ext3" with gparted on my computer
[14:19] <nounouille> how can i ad it to my fstab to mount it?
[14:19] <phuzion> osxdude, I live in Ohio, and I got a snow day, too
[14:19] <osxdude|linux> heh
[14:19] <osxdude|linux> that's nice
[14:20] <phuzion> yeah, there's freezing rain all over the place
[14:20] <Myiasia> Anyone see anything wrong with that xorg.conf I posted?
[14:21] <babo> can i boot mac osx onto my qemu ?
 i hope this is what you need http://pastebin.com/m30de508d
[14:21] <osxdude|linux> probably, babo
[14:21] <bazhang> babo no
[14:21] <osxdude|linux> oh
[14:21] <osxdude|linux> well then.
[14:21] <silici0> i got a problem, how can i add myself (user) to a group fuse?
[14:22] <silici0> its seen i am in the group, when i open some directories from these group i can't change
[14:23] <silici0> at least in the user/group managment shows me
[14:23] <silici0> can someone help-me ?
[14:23] <silici0> O_o
[14:24] <Myiasia> I think they all died, silici. :p
[14:24] <Kloss> anyone else who had problems with his or her burner?
[14:25] <silici0> Myiasia:  what do u mean ?
[14:25] <cpk1> Jay955: you still need to configure samba it looks like, this post here is probably the one of the easier ones to follow... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[14:25] <Myiasia> Lack of answerage. But, then, it does say to be patient.
[14:25] <silici0> i see
[14:25] <silici0> hehe
[14:26] <silici0> very strange
[14:26] <Myiasia> I asked something, too. :p
[14:26] <Bisonium> Hello! Does anybody know if it is safte to run the MBR.fix in windows recovery. Or will my GRUB/ubuntu be gone after that? I have GRUB to start either of WinXP or Linux Ubuntu, but now my Windows reboots everytime the system is almost done . Before the logon screen pops up (the graphical user interface is loaded) the system boots, at the same time the HDD sounds like it  stoppes. Ubuntu runs problemlessly
[14:26] <erUSUL> silici0: sudo adduser «user» «group»
[14:26] <erUSUL> Bisonium: fixmbr will overwrite grub
[14:26] <erUSUL> !grub | Bisonium
[14:27] <ubotu> Bisonium: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:27] <Myiasia> Bisonium: In my experience, when Windows breaks and you have to reinstall it, it will kill grub. However... yeah, what he said.
[14:27] <erUSUL> Bisonium: see the link about recovering grub
[14:27] <Myiasia> Y'can reinstall grub. :p
[14:27] <K_Nine> dgjones: Thanks.
[14:27] <shin_lyxpower> ./
[14:27] <erUSUL> !enter > silici0
[14:27] <Bisonium> erUSUL: thanks. It seems to be hard to get Windows going again. Am I right?
[14:28] <Raekanderu> сцуки
[14:28] <StrangeCharm> when installing uswsusp as an alternate hibernate program (the 7.10 built-in one doesn't work), it says that there's more than one possible resume device candidate. how can i configure it to select the right one?
[14:29] <silici0> erUSUL:  it's seen doesn't work
[14:29] <MythbuntuGuest50> hello i have a problem. i have a ato 7000 ve graphiccard and i have the normaly ato driver, but when i connect a tv i see only the boot logo and when load xorg the tv is blank
[14:29] <Bisonium> erUSUL: Do you oersonally think it is thje MBR that is the problem? I mean the boot process has com very far, Windows is almost done loading ... ? maybe a new MBR wouldn't help me, only make it more problematic?
[14:30] <silici0> very strange!
[14:30] <MythbuntuGuest50> xrandr found s-video connection, 800x600 59,9 + 60,3 hz. it this not to high? i think only 50hz work with a tv, i think
[14:30] <silici0> i just have installed ubuntu yesterday
[14:30] <erUSUL> Bisonium: dunno what happened to your windows install so not know how hard it would be to make it run again
[14:30] <MythbuntuGuest50> and when i xrandr --output S-video --mode 800x600 --rate 50 it not work, the tv flickers
[14:30] <Bisonium> Okidoki. Thanks alot for advice anyway!
[14:31] <Bisonium> erUSUL: okidoki thanks alot for advice!!
[14:31] <caleywoods_> anyone play Warsow through ubuntu?
[14:31] <silici0> fuse dammit
[14:31] <silici0> is doesn't work
[14:31] <MythbuntuGuest50> have sombody an idear its realy importent for me....
[14:31] <erUSUL> Bisonium: i do not think it has nothing to do with the mbr... if windows begins to load is something else. You should ask in ##windows
[14:32] <silici0> how can i check if a im in a fuse group ?
[14:32] <Bisonium> erUSUL: Thanks. I go to ##Windows
[14:32] <Andycass1> ikonia: still here?
[14:32] <pepperjack> MythbuntuGuest50: youre not talking about a regular analogue tv right?
[14:32] <Bisonium> erUSUL: 'till next time! Bye
[14:32] <erUSUL> Bisonium: no problem; bye
[14:32] <amnon> can anyone help me with mounting a DVD on Ubuntu ?
[14:33] <Andycasss> ikonia: I managed to get it functioning with a clear interfaces, but it doesnt want to ping anymore, nor connect to the internet, but ifconfig looks genuine
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest50> no one a idear please?
[14:34] <Andycasss> ikonia: i can connect via vnc from a lan computer to this ubuntu box, but when i try to ping my machine (the one that im connecting with), it doesnt respond?
[14:34] <erUSUL> amnon: what error do you get when you insert it?
[14:34] <pepperjack> MythbuntuGuest50: try /join #mythtv-users  perhaps
[14:35] <amnon> I tried playing with fstab as suggested in various places - but nothing helps. right now I get :
[14:35] <amnon> either: Cannot mount volume. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume.
[14:36] <pepperjack> amnon: can you pastebin /etc/fstab ?
[14:36] <erUSUL> amnon: it fails with all dvd or just a specific one?
[14:36] <XLV> amnon, ubuntu uses automount for dvds.. its a dvd disk or image?
[14:36] <pepperjack> er..nm didnt know it was dvd
[14:36] <MythbuntuGuest50> ok thanks
[14:37] <UNDERsoN> does linux support write for hfs+
[14:37] <rsk> UNDERsoN: yea
[14:37] <bashca> please  i need  help to set  mdsl usb ??
[14:38] <amnon> it is a dvd with some data on it - I can see the data (AVI video files) fine on windows but on my Ubuntu I can't mount he dvd
[14:38] <amnon> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[14:38] <amnon> #
[14:38] <amnon> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[14:38] <amnon> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[14:38] <amnon> # /dev/hda7
[14:38] <amnon> UUID=48fdd818-76c6-404a-864f-24f0ac960d5b /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:38] <amnon> # /dev/hda5
[14:38] <FloodBot2> amnon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <pepperjack> !paste| amnon
[14:38] <ubotu> amnon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:38] <erUSUL> !paste | amnon
[14:38] <amnon> my apologies - newbie here...
[14:39] <pepperjack> no problem everyone does it first time :)
[14:40] <bazhang> though the floodbot kick is new
[14:40] <JewStyleKungFu> I've never used ubuntu, so I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but I'm using it to recover some files from a hard drive that's unrecognized by everything else I've tried....my only hitch now is that it says I don't have permission to write to the external hard drive that I'm trying to back up the information to
[14:40] <Javid> Four linux users die of cancer every time someone subjects them to the horrors of four pasted lines on IRC. True story.
[14:40] <bazhang> heh
[14:41] <bulmer> JewStyleKungFu-> then be as root when you mount the destination /partition
[14:42] <JewStyleKungFu> bulmer and that's where my ignorance comes in...I have no idea how to do that
[14:42] <erUSUL> JewStyleKungFu: if you are recovering lost files there is no harm on running the file manager as root «gksudo nautilus»
[14:42] <erUSUL> JewStyleKungFu: then copy the files with that file manager
[14:43] <bulmer> JewStyleKungFu-> you mount and usually can only mount partitions as root,  mount -t filesystemtype /dev/partitiondestination /mountpoint
[14:43] <pepperjack> JewStyleKungFu: also if its fat32 youre writing to in the future you can mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/mountpoint   <-- or something
[14:43] <localmost> Hello, why is vmware-player nor vmware-server showing up in synaptic anymore, it's practically impossible to get a vm going!
[14:43] <pepperjack> probably too much info gksu nautilus is best maybe
[14:45] <bazhang> localmost: need to enable the repo it is in
[14:45] <JewStyleKungFu> haha, linux makes me feel like an idiot, I'm going to have to learn more about this
[14:45] <bulmer> knowing a lil bit more about the command line would benefit users by knowing "how it is really done" behind the scene kind of thing
[14:45] <bazhang> !info vmware-server
[14:45] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in gutsy
[14:45] <BB88> Are there any programs that are similar to DAEMON Tools for Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:46] <bazhang> canonical partner repo iirc localmost
[14:46] <JewStyleKungFu> I learned how to use a computer on DOS and it helped me immsensely
[14:46] <localmost> which would that be, and where how?
[14:46] <JewStyleKungFu> immensely
[14:46] <Slart> BB88: you can just mount an iso with the mount-command
[14:46] <localmost> ok, I will look in synaptics list
[14:46] <XLV> !iso > BB88
[14:46] <bazhang> synaptic localmost look for gutsy canonical partner cant remember precise wording
[14:46] <localmost> nice bro
[14:46] <BB88> !iso
[14:46] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[14:47] <Slart> BB88: I don't think there is anything with the same anti-security features of daemons tools.. but not many linux applications come with that kind of stuff anyway
[14:47] <JewStyleKungFu> so when I'm entering commands to mount this hard drive, am I doing that from the terminal?
[14:48] <bazhang> yesh
[14:48] <bashca> any 1 can help  runing  mDsl  usb  on ubuntu
[14:48] <Rufus_> how do I install an icon theme?
[14:49] <jrib> Rufus_: system -> preferences -> appearance
[14:49] <Rufus_> just install it like a theme?
[14:49] <jrib> Rufus_: should work, try
[14:49] <localmost> drag it across into the appearances screen, accessible from system,preferences,appearance, Rufus
 : yes... try gnomelook.org and kdelook.org for some themes
[14:49] <localmost> drag n drop
[14:50] <Tyczek> do you know how to control fans in toshiba satellite notebook ?
[14:50] <fiXXXerMet> What is the bot command agani?
[14:50] <Rufus_> yes, i got it from gnome-look
[14:50] <fiXXXerMet> again*
[14:50] <localmost> Possible fan control in bios, Tyczek ?
[14:51] <Tyczek> localmost, there is no something like that in bios...
[14:51] <Tyczek> btw, this bios is simple...
[14:51] <fiXXXerMet> I'm looking for the information on dual monitors in ubuntu with an ati card.
[14:51] <Rufus_> it didnt work through appearence, is there a file to put them in?
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[14:51] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[14:51] <frojnd1> does anyone know, howc an I limit UL/DL speed of torrent file that I'm allready downloading, with torrentflux ?
 : just open those compresed files in appearance and go to the theme tabs and click the install button
[14:51] <jrib> Rufus_: what happened when you tried? "didn't work" is never informative
[14:52] <Rufus_> "File format is invalid."
 : that happens
 : if it does
[14:52] <jrib> Rufus_: that's usually an issue with the way it was packaged.  Link to the icon theme?
[14:53] <Rufus_> wait
 : u unpack it and put it your icon folder
[14:53] <ikonia> Andycasss: thats probably your firewall  (sorry I was away from my desk)
[14:53] <localmost> or unpack the icon theme, and the actuall tar.gz might be inside, Rufus_
 /home/username/.icons
[14:53] <Rufus_> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta-icons?content=62759
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> adobongkangkong: It probably is more than that..
 : what do ya mean?
[14:54] <Gabt> Hey, im looking for advice, cant get ubuntu to start! :(
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Rufus_: The first paragraph tells you how to install those
[14:55] <Andycasss> ikonia: i used sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop command but it still cant ping
[14:55] <Gabt> PCI: cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14:0 (anyone know wtf that means?)
[14:55] <Andycasss> ikonia: tells me unknown host
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> adobongkangkong: He cold have been selecting something that would not work at all.  It only makes sense to see what it is before trying to install it manually
[14:56] <jrib> Rufus_: yeah, it's compressed twice for some reason...
[14:56] <Andycasss> ikonia: oh, wait i can ping my lan box now, hm probably dns wrong?
[14:56] <rothchild> what tools can I use to manipulate PDF files?
[14:56] <adobongkangkong> Rufus_ : just unpack the archives and put it in your icon folder in "/home/yourusername/.icons"
 : i know what error he's takin' about and it happens to me...
[14:56] <ctp> hi folks. which full featured player do you prefer? used amarok for a while and tried rhythmbox. any other players you recommend?
[14:57] <rothchild> I have the cover and content of a single brochure in two files and I need to make them in to one
[14:57] <rothchild> ctp have you tried songbird
[14:57] <XLV> Gabt, is it a laptop you are trying to install to?
[14:57] <rothchild> ctp: http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[14:57] <ctp> rothchild: didnt try it yet. but thx for info
 exaile
[14:58] <rothchild> ctp it's still pretty buggy but I think it has a great future
[14:58] <adobongkangkong> songbird is still in beta right?
[14:58] <jrib> Rufus_: ha, it stems from the fact that the file is named just .bz2 and not tar.bz2, so file-roller uncompresses first to the tar and then extracts.  But yeah, what adobongkangkong said will work
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> adobongkangkong: JUst because it is the same error.. does not mean it is the same problem. You get the same error trying to stick a gdm theme into the regular theme manager not to mention the different things that are involved when you add effects and emerald theme manager
[14:58] <Gabt> Anyone willing to help a ubuntu newby, pm me
[14:58] <sev1989> hi all
[14:58] <ctp> adobongkangkong: ah, some guys use exaile. i'll give it a try too ;-)
[14:59] <Rufus_> okay, i put them in icons folder
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: Please ask your question in here so all can learn from it
[14:59] <jrib> Rufus_: then go to Preferences -> Appearance again and see if it is listed as an icon theme
[14:59] <cliebow> anyone using fakeraid and gutsy?
[15:00] <erUSUL> !fakeraid
[15:00] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:00] <cpk1> Gabt: just ask your question in the channel that way everyone can help you
[15:00] <Gabt> i did
[15:00] <Gabt> :(
[15:00] <Gabt> no one answered
[15:00] <frojnd1> what's the command to check what device do I have for wi-fi ?
[15:00] <Gabt> I need a genius's help. What do you reckon this means (PCI: cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14:0)
[15:01] <erUSUL> frojnd1: iwconfig
[15:01] <ibou> is ffmpeg useless if i install mpleyer ?
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> frojnd1: lspci  ?
[15:01] <ubuntuisloved> i was wondering if theres a rescue cdrom which is lite and customizable so i can add my own scripts to it to wipe and create LVM's
[15:01] <ibou> mplayer
[15:01] <jrib> ibou: no? what do you mean?
[15:01] <tyt> can anyone speak chinese?
[15:01] <frojnd1> erUSUL, thanx
[15:01] <jrib> !zh | tyt
[15:01] <ubotu> tyt: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:01] <frojnd1> Jack_Sparrow, I mean't eth* thanx anyway
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:01] <bashca> hi all there  i need  help  on how  use  zte mdsl  usb  on ubuntu  pease
[15:01] <pirate> I got my vaio's inbuilt webcam working in ubuntu without any effort. Wow, i can't believe it :D
[15:01] <JewStyleKungFu> I just want to double check that I've got this right...I'm needing access to write to this external hard drive, and right now it's read only disk, so I have to remount it?
[15:02] <erUSUL> Gabt: something fishy on the memory layout maybe a bios error or kernel bug
[15:02] <jrib> JewStyleKungFu: what filesystem?
[15:02] <JewStyleKungFu> NTFS
[15:02] <CroX> Anyone care to recommend a SWF decompiler?
[15:02] <jrib> !ntfs > JewStyleKungFu (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:02] <localmost> You need to force mount it,
[15:02] <Gabt> Happens with all the ubuntu CD's ive ran, and gentoo, and debian
[15:02] <Gabt> :(
[15:03] <JewStyleKungFu> oh, hey, thanks
[15:03] <jrib> CroX: apt-cache search swf disassemb    ?
[15:03] <Gabt> erUSUL: got a solution?
[15:03] <bluephantom> hi,i have some problem in ubuntu's ssh...
[15:03] <erUSUL> Gabt: and there is any simtoms? does any pice of hardware not work
[15:03] <erUSUL> ?
[15:03] <Gabt> It doesnt boot
[15:03] <Gabt> It hangs while initializing the kernel
[15:03] <JewStyleKungFu> just want to go ahead and say that you guys should be effing proud of supporting this OS so well...it's awesome getting all this help
[15:04] <bluephantom> is there someone can answer my question with ssh?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: Do you get to the first screen.. start ot install ?
[15:04] <localmost> possibly
[15:04] <Gabt> Yea
[15:04] <bulmer> Gabt then it did boot
[15:04] <pepperjack> bluephantom: we all use telnet but ask away
[15:04] <Gabt> i get the screen were i can chose to start, run disk check etc
[15:04] <erUSUL> Gabt: maybe you can try some boot options ...
[15:04] <localmost> lol
[15:04] <Pici> !telnet | pepperjack
[15:04] <ubotu> pepperjack: telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[15:04] <erUSUL> !bootoptions
[15:04] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: Have you tried F6 and different boot modifiers  noapic etc
[15:04] <bluephantom> i just install as "apt-get install ssh"
[15:05] <XLV> Gabt, is it a laptop you are trying to install to?
[15:05] <ibou> jrib: sorry have to go i'll ansewer you later
[15:05] <bluephantom> and now, i
[15:05] <Gabt> No, its a desktop
[15:05] <localmost> You need either the client or server, you   must choose
[15:05] <Gabt> And ive tryed booting in safe mode, no diffrence
[15:05] <SleepingSloth> what's the de facto standard for ubuntu mysql clients
[15:05] <localmost> for SSH, Bluephantom
[15:05] <Pici> !enter | bluephantom
[15:05] <ubotu> bluephantom: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:06] <Gabt> I thought, maybe its smth to dow ith my PCI hardware, not being recognized, so i removed it, no diffrenmce
[15:06] <bluephantom> and now i'm use putty on win to connect it, i type the username ,and type the password , but can't login...
[15:06] <jrib> bluephantom: first, go to your ubuntu computer and see if 'ssh localhost' works
[15:06] <SleepingSloth> i mean- like mysql-navigator, or similar. or is mysql-navigator the best there is?
[15:07] <Gabt> ill try the xtra boot options
[15:07] <bluephantom> how to see?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off
[15:07] <Gabt> and ill come back let u know wut happened
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: Not all at once...
[15:07] <bluephantom> i can connect port 22, just can't login....
[15:07] <jrib> !who | bluephantom
[15:07] <bulmer> just an fyi, I had a terrible time I thought in burning Fedora 7 dvd.iso, always gets 75% error during k3b verification, but yet, I had a copy of that dvd.iso -- from the dvd boot I can point to hd where the dvd.iso and do install..
[15:07] <ubotu> bluephantom: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:07] <Gabt> ok, ill try them
[15:07] <jrib> bluephantom: how to see what?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabt: noapic  is one Iuse the most
[15:08] <bluephantom> ubotu:oic,sorry....
[15:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oic,sorry.... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:08] <ikonia> Andycasss: dns seems realistic problem there
[15:08] <jrib> bluephantom: you just type 'ssh localhost' in a terminal
[15:08] <Gabt> ok thnx, ill try it
[15:08] <ikonia> Andycasss: probably because your not using dhcp anymore
[15:08] <bulmer> so it was kind of neat to have that option on the menu of install to select where the iso is located for installation
[15:08] <Gabt> brb
[15:08] <localmost> bluephantom, if SSH is properly installed you should be able to log in as root or yo
[15:08] <localmost> ...ot
[15:09] <localmost> or your current user name
[15:09] <localmost> New keyboard, sorry
[15:09] <jrib> localmost: not as root on ubuntu...
[15:09] <_guest_> can someone help me to get my radeon 9250 working in ubuntu, even websites with flash are sluggish in fullscreen mode now
[15:09] <ikonia> root login is disabled by default
[15:09] <localmost> jrib, sorry my mistake
[15:10] <XLV> bluephantom, install openssh server
[15:10] <fevel> can someone help me convert files to mpeg4 (ipod format) Is there a tool I can install like jodio Ipod converter?
[15:10] <fevel> Jodio - Windoes
[15:10] <bluephantom> localmost: i use the user:bluephantom,it can login on local
[15:10] <bluephantom> i use "apt-get install ssh" to install ssh already....
[15:11] <localmost> bluephantom, and when you attempt"ssh 127.0.0.1" does it prompt you to connect?
[15:11] <bulmer> but that is not the server portion, i dont think
[15:11] <XLV> bluephantom, that installs ssh client, if you want to login into a ubuntu pc through ssh you need the server
[15:12] <jrib> XLV: it should install both
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_:I may have a ote about that card...  one sec.. are you using fglrx ?
[15:12] <Andycasss> ikonia: hmm, i set the dns manually and it still doesnt work, connecting to ip doesnt work either. I think i have to set up routing, though i dont know which settings to use
[15:12] <bluephantom> yes,i can connect prot 22
[15:12] <localmost> There you go then, bluephantom
[15:12] <ikonia> Andycasss lets do this one thing at a time. Lets get the physical nic for eth0 working first, turn off your firewall / clear rules and lets begin
[15:12] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: I am not sure what I am using any longer, so many people have tried to fix this...so now nothing works except .txt documents
[15:13] <ikonia> Andycasss: eth1 sorry
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: Search for Xorg-driver-FGLRX, If it is enabled ( installed...)  Mark it for complete removal and click on apply
[15:14] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: I used to have it working with Beryl, running smooth and nice, then someone tried updating the ati drivers with the new ones from ATI and since then it's all pearshaped
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: Search for libgl1-mesa-glx If it is NOT enabled ( installed...)  Mark it for Installation and click on apply
[15:14] <Andycasss> ikonia: ok
[15:15] <jac> hi people
[15:15] <Andycasss> ikonia: ive switched the fw off. i dont want to clear the rules tho - it should allow those protocols to pass anyway now
[15:15] <bluephantom> localmost: i use putty on windows connect port 22, and type user and password , but can't login, Is not i must alter some file?
[15:17] <jac> ive got a question: I'm looking for a 'make your own' printable card style cd holder to store livecds for distribution, so I can leave the stand in a public place so others can freely take them, like the offial ubuntu ones that ive seen, but one that I can print myself
[15:17] <bluephantom> localmost: is there some wrong with User Configuration?
[15:17] <jac> i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right location for this
[15:17] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: They are both installed already
[15:17] <bluephantom> ·èÁË~ÓÐÈË»áÖÐÎÄÃ»£¿
[15:17] <ikonia> Andycasss as long as it's totally disabled and not causing any issues
[15:18] <ikonia> Andycasss: so show me the output of ifconfig eth1 and netstatn -rn in a pastebin please.
[15:18] <kimrhh> getting a "bad digest" on Adobe Flash player 9, installing through synaptic.. how to fix that?
[15:18] <jac> is there liek a section of the ubuntu website with promotional material that might include such a thing...along with cover art etc?
[15:18] <apollo> hi super new to linux just came over from windows, and i was wondering why it allways asks me for my password when i use terminal
[15:19] <Jay955> hi all
[15:19] <ikonia> apollo to authenticate you for the first time you issue a root command
[15:19] <jrib> apollo: what command are you trying?
[15:19] <Andycasss> ikonia: weirdness... Can you access this page: http://andycas.pri.ee/ its being hosted by the same machine im having problems with
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: The first one was UN-install
[15:19] <apollo> i was trying to use a sudo command in order to install automatrix
[15:19] <ikonia> Andycasss: yes, I can get there
[15:19] <ikonia> apollo: don't install automatrix
[15:19] <Jay955> i have a small problem
[15:20] <ikonia> apollo: it is not supported by this community and you will lose support if you install it
[15:20] <jrib> jac: try #ubuntu-marketing too
[15:20] <Andycasss> ikonia: weird, i cant get any outside connection with this machine
[15:20] <ikonia> !automatix | apollo
[15:20] <ubotu> apollo: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:20] <fevel> sorry guys... I missed the answer...is there a way to convert movies to mpeg4??
[15:20] <apollo> why would you say that?
[15:20] <ikonia> apollo because that's the truth
[15:20] <fevel> atomatix sucks
[15:20] <Andycasss> ikonia: only incoming... Anyway ill run these commands and pastebin those for you, is it ok when i put them inside my server?
[15:20] <jrib> apollo: because it breaks installs and is not necessary.  Why do you think you need it?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> apollo: because it is a horrible thing to do to your setup
[15:20] <ikonia> Andycasss: sure, no problem
[15:20] <apollo> just seem like a goo start and ive heard good things about it
[15:21] <apollo> good sry
[15:21] <fevel> probably from itself
[15:21] <ikonia> apollo: now your hearing bad things, and being told you'll lose your support in here if you use it
[15:21] <jrib> apollo: good start in what sense?  What do you need it to do?
[15:21] <KenSentMe> I use the twinview settings to use 2 displays on my ubuntu system. Is there a setting so the top bar and fullscreen applications are not stretched over 2 displays, but just one (left)?
[15:21] <fevel> I need automatix to get pissed off
[15:21] <jac> jrib: thanks for that
[15:21] <fevel> on updates
[15:22] <apollo> Ok dont use automatrix, but back to the point why does it ask me for the password when i try to use terminal
[15:22] <ikonia> fevel: 1.) thats a pointless comment - not needed 2.) moderate your language it's uncalled for 3.) if you don't have anything worthwhile to say - don't, the channel is busy enough
[15:22] <Jay955> i have samba but i still don't see my shared drive on the xp side of the network
[15:22] <ikonia> apollo the first time you use a sudo command it witll authenticate you
[15:22] <fevel> ok
[15:22] <ikonia> apollo: this is a good thing
[15:22] <jac> jrib: I just found this - its pretty much what I was after!:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing, thanks again
[15:22] <bazhang> apollo automatic will break your install
[15:22] <jrib> apollo: it doesn't.  It will only ask for your password if you try to do something that requires admin access (ie you use sudo)
[15:22] <fevel> so how do I convert to mpeg4?
[15:22] <ikonia> fevel: mencoder, acidrip, dvd::rip
[15:22] <kimrhh> aren't digest error supposed to disappear when you apt-get update ?
[15:23] <bluephantom> !jrib | bluephantom
[15:23] <Andycasss> ikonia: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/logs1
[15:23] <jrib> bluephantom: eh?
[15:23] <apollo> ok but when i try to enter the password then I cant do anything
[15:23] <apollo> accept hit enter
[15:23] <Andycasss> ikonia: the gw is wrong, right?
[15:23] <ikonia> apollo: what command are you trying to do, exactly
[15:23] <ikonia> apollo: your password will not be echo'd
[15:23] <fevel> ikonia, thanks!! youre the man!
[15:23] <jrib> apollo: you just type your password and hit enter.  It won't show you typing anything
[15:23] <apollo> so it wont show up as i write it
[15:24] <apollo> ohhh thanks i got it
[15:24] <ikonia> Andycasss: 1.) don't konw why you have 2 routed exactly the same 2.) can you ping the 254 gateway ?
[15:24] <jrib> apollo: yes.  But as a new linux user you shouldn't be needing to do this
[15:24] <apollo> well im trying to learn terminal
[15:24] <Andycasss> ikonia: yes, i can ping .254
[15:24] <allquixotic> Hello; what is the name of the process that corresponds to the Gnome desktop, e.g. icons and the wallpaper? gnome-panel, gnome-session, and gnome-settings-daemon are running, but I have a black background with no icons when I try to view the desktop
[15:24] <jrib> !cli > apollo (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:24] <Andycasss> ikonia: .254 is the real gateway i want it to use, also i can access routers web config
[15:24] <jrib> allquixotic: nautilus
[15:24] <apollo> so thank you very much for the help.!
[15:25] <ikonia> Andycasss: ok - so you can ping your gateway - that means your machines networking is spot on (apart from having he same route 2 times ???) so the problem after that is outside of ubuntu and down to the device .254
[15:25] <jba2g> hey guys, i just deleted a faulty ubuntu partition off of a dual-boot computer and now i cant get into vista at all c.c Does anhyone know how to restore its boot so i dont have to reinstall ubuntu right now?
[15:25] <jba2g> i dont want to ask on windows channels and get harassed for using linux again
[15:25] <jay956> is there a mirc i can use for ubuntu
[15:25] <bazhang> ##windows jba2g?
[15:25] <ikonia> jba2g: boot of the windows boot cd and use /fixboot from rescure options or use a dos disk with fdisk /mbr
[15:25] <jrib> jay956: why? linux has plenty of nice irc clients.  Have you tried xchat?
[15:25] <dgjones> jay956, xchat
[15:25] <ikonia> jay956: xchat/xchat-gome/irssi
[15:26] <allquixotic> jrib: ok, then nautilus is not starting for me, on Gutsy. it did start when I did a clean install, but now it doesn't. I just installed ubuntu-backport-modules, pulseaudio and a few other things from official Ubuntu repos
[15:26] <niuq> hi
[15:26] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: The libgl1 is the only one installed, but it still has the same problem
[15:26] <jba2g> ikonia: ok.... so if i dont have either of those with me because im not at home, i have no hope
[15:26] <niuq> how can i mount a .iso?
[15:26] <fevel> ikonia, so I can use mplayer to convert?
[15:26] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me how i can access the files i shared in ubuntu from a windows pc
[15:26] <jay956> ok thanks
[15:26] <Andycasss> ikonia: are you referring to those 2 last lines?
[15:26] <ikonia> jba2g: not really, unless you join ##windows and see if they have a better solution
[15:26] <Andycasss> ikonia: 0.0.0.0 etc..
[15:26] <ForsakenSoul> i type the ip of the ubuntu pc but i want a user and a pass ?
[15:26] <fevel> ikonia, wat would you suggest
[15:26] <jba2g> *shudder*
[15:26] <fevel> ikonia, *what
[15:26] <jrib> allquixotic: what does 'gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktopt
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: Still have lots more to do...
[15:26] <jrib> allquixotic: what does 'gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop' return?
[15:26] <jba2g> it feels like a sin just being on a #windows room
[15:26] <ikonia> fevel: maplyer is the player - mencoder command line, or acidrip or dvd::rip is a gui tool
[15:27] <allquixotic> jrib: true
[15:27] <jba2g> its bad enough im using vista
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: I am trying to find my notes on that card
[15:27]  * sev___ ask, if there is console mail manager
[15:27] <fevel> ikonia, ok thanks
[15:27] <allquixotic> http://rafb.net/p/IeURzl69.html indicates a listing of all processes I have running at present
[15:27] <jrib> allquixotic: ps -ef | grep nautilus
[15:27] <allquixotic> jrib: step ahead of you
[15:27] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: Take your time, I am not going anywhere :)
[15:27] <allquixotic> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/IeURzl69.html (sorry for not pinging above)
[15:27] <ikonia> Andycasss: correct
[15:27] <d_mitry> in kde, when i mount an ntfs partition, i am given the error, "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000". how can i eliminate it?
[15:27] <ikonia> Andycasss: two routes that are exactly the same seems odd
[15:27] <jrib> allquixotic: pkill nautilus
[15:27] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me what to write when i`m trying to access a ubuntu shared folder from win and it asks for a acc and pass
[15:27] <jrib> bluephantom: what is your question?
[15:27] <erUSUL> sev___: many alpine mutt elm or (some of the emacs ones)
[15:28] <bluephantom> jrib:i use putty on windows connect port 22, and type user and password , but can't login, Is not i must alter some file?
[15:28] <allquixotic> jrib: it terminated the nautilus that I started on the CLI. but I had no desktop before and after starting this instance
[15:28] <bluephantom> jrib:is there some wrong with User Configuration?
[15:28] <Andycasss> ikonia: the first route is also wrong, it should have gw to .254, or is it linked with that 0.0.0.0?
[15:28] <ikonia> bluephantom: is sshd listening on your server
[15:28] <jrib> bluephantom: I asked you to tell me what happened when you tried to 'ssh localhost' on the ubuntu machine but you never responded
[15:28] <ikonia> Andycasss: no - the first one looks fine
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_: Would you mind if we take this to private channel.. some of these pastes would be annoying in channel although only 3 or 4 lines, there are a few
[15:28] <bluephantom> ikonia: yes it's work
[15:28] <jba2g> meh. if i reinstall linux that should work....
[15:28] <bashca> hellooooooooooo
[15:28] <_guest_> Jack_Sparrow: Sure, no problem
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> _guest_:  /j #Voyager
[15:28] <niuq> how can i mount a .iso image?
[15:29] <erUSUL> !hi | bashca
[15:29] <ubotu> bashca: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:29] <jrib> allquixotic: ok, so a new nautilus instance is running, but no desktop still?
[15:29] <Pici> !iso | niuq
[15:29] <ubotu> niuq: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:29] <bashca> any 1 know how mdsl  usb  work on ubuntu
[15:29] <ikonia> Andycasss: anything on your 192 address use default (0.0.0.0) to get out of default use 192.168.1.254
[15:29] <erUSUL> !adsl | bashca
[15:29] <ubotu> bashca: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[15:29] <cpk1> how do I move around in branches with git?
[15:29] <pirate> ForsakenSoul: You need to set up a user/pass. Check the ubuntu website for instructions on setting up samba.
[15:29] <ikonia> bluephantom so if you can connect, then your user password must be wrong
[15:29] <allquixotic> jrib: ok, I amend my previous statement: after the pkill, I did not restart nautilus; now I have restarted it, and it popped up the file browser AND... my desktop!!!
[15:29] <Andycasss> ikonia: so, how to fix it?
[15:29] <bluephantom> jrib: sorry , there so much text , i have not see it
[15:29] <ikonia> Andycasss: fix what ?
[15:29] <bashca> thanks
[15:29] <erUSUL> cpk1: git checkout «branch-name»
[15:29] <jrib> bluephantom: do you understand what you need to do now?
[15:29] <ikonia> Andycasss: your only issue with that routing table is the duplicate entry
[15:29] <Andycasss> ikonia: the duplicate
[15:30] <allquixotic> jrib: I'm not sure why it doesn't like to start immediately after boot -- when I first logged in on this boot, gnome-settings-daemon didn't want to start either; this may be due to pulseaudio
[15:30] <pirate> !samba > ForsakenSoul
[15:30] <ikonia> Andycasss: delete one route, but I don't see how you've got the two duplicates
[15:30] <allquixotic> jrib: but thanks! the temporary fix for me is just to kill all the nautiluses and restart ;)
[15:30] <jrib> allquixotic: don't know about it, check bugs.ubuntu.com maybe
[15:30] <jrib> allquixotic: you can check ~/nautilus-debug-log.txt and ~/.xsession-errors for hints too
[15:31] <Jay955> hi all
[15:31] <JewStyleKungFu> what does that /dev stand for?
[15:31] <ikonia> JewStyleKungFu: devices
[15:31] <sev___> devices
[15:31] <JewStyleKungFu> oh, cool
[15:31] <Andycasss> ikonia: wait
[15:31] <ikonia> Andycasss: what ?
[15:31] <bashca> erUSUL, am asking ab  usb modem
[15:31] <allquixotic> jrib: 800 kilobytes of errors like this 0x8177510 2008/02/01 10:05:48.4936 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[15:31] <Andycasss> ikonia: i did have the eth1:1 right? maybe thats the duplicate gw entry?
[15:31] <allquixotic> jrib: the only difference between each line is a different tick
[15:31] <ikonia> Andycasss: did you set a gateway for it ?
[15:31] <Andycasss> ikonia: yes
[15:32] <bluephantom> jrib: it can do "ssh localhost"
[15:32] <cpk1> erUSUL: thank you that cleared up a lot for me. was trying to using git-checkout =)
[15:32] <ikonia> Andycasss: ok - thats the issue remove the gateway for that
[15:32] <jrib> bluephantom: and you login without issue?
[15:32] <Jay955> i have samba install but still can't access the drive from the xp side of the network can anyone help me pls
[15:32] <bluephantom> jrib: it won't ask for me the username ,type the password to login seccesful
[15:32] <erUSUL> cpk1: git-checkout should work to (the two forms are "legal")
[15:32] <ikonia> bluephantom: it's using your login name for a username
[15:33] <ikonia> bluephantom: ssh -l $username or ssh user@host to specify a user
[15:33] <shade052> jay955: exactly what is the problem
[15:33] <maxsoft> hi all. I would like activate VNCServer for a user that dont is part of 'root' group. When I try to connect the vnc Viewer stay in black screen. how to? thank you. (with a root user it works fine)
[15:33] <jrib> bluephantom: ok.  And when you use putty on windows you get a prompt for username and password?
[15:33] <bluephantom> jrib: yes!
[15:33] <Jay955> when i try to go to the server it asking me for user name and passwd
[15:34] <jrib> bluephantom: ok, when you type the information in, what happens next?
[15:34] <Switch^> I've never encountered such a problem and I am awestruck. I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a desktop PC and everything works fine, except... even though the network cable is plugged in, Ubuntu won't connect to the network. Even with static IP it won't connect.
[15:34] <Switch^> I am using a SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet card that is on-board.
[15:34] <shade052> jay955: yes it will
[15:34] <Andycasss> ikonia: ok i removed that from my interfaces and the routing doesnt have that duplicate anymore but it still doesnt ping?
[15:34] <niuq> Pici: i didnt get it, why using option -o loop?
[15:34] <ikonia> Andycasss: you said you could ping your gateway before ?
[15:34] <shade052> jay955: you might have to create a account by the name of the windows machine
[15:35] <erUSUL> Switch^: any error msg that can give as a clue? smomething in the logs?
[15:35] <freepenguin> hi
[15:35] <bluephantom> jrib: i type username, and it ask for a password , and i type password, and it say:Access denied
[15:35] <Switch^> erUSUL: where can I find those?
[15:35] <jrib> bluephantom: what username?
[15:35] <cpk1> erUSUL: maybe you can help me, when I try git-checkout --track -b everything origin/everything i get warning: refname 'origin/everything' is ambiguous. fatal: Ambiguous object name: 'origin/everything'.
[15:35] <bluephantom> jrib: username is bluephantom
[15:35] <Andycasss> ikonia: yes, but i cant ping google.com
[15:35] <ikonia> is that your login name
[15:35] <erUSUL> Switch^: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog ?
[15:35] <Jay955> ok let me try
[15:35] <Andycasss> keeps telling me that its unknown host
[15:35] <bluephantom> jrib: it's login on local seccuesful
[15:35] <ikonia> Andycasss: ok - so thats nothing to do with ubuntu, thats your router not forwarding
[15:36] <ikonia> Andycasss: ahhh disn
[15:36] <ikonia> Andycasss: dns
[15:36] <Switch^> I'll find out
[15:36] <ikonia> Andycasss: what are your dns servers set to
[15:36] <jrib> bluephantom: yes, that's strange.  And you have not edited any files in /etc/ssh/?
[15:36] <fevel> ikonia, sorry to bother you again buddy, but acidrip only rips dvds to mpg, how about .avi to mpeg
[15:36] <ikonia> bluephantom: on your local machine can you do "id" for me and show me the output
[15:36] <fevel> ikonia, at least I couldnt figure out how to
[15:36] <erUSUL> cpk1: dunno sorry...
[15:37] <ikonia> fevel: look at the more advanced options - pretend you've already ripped and look a tthe encode options
[15:37] <Andycasss> ikonia: dns-nameservers 194.126.115.18 194.126.101.34
[15:37] <bluephantom> jrib: i had not edited any files with ssh
[15:37] <ikonia> Andycasss: can you ping any of them ?
[15:37] <ikonia> Andycasss: where are you getting that information from ?
[15:37] <jrib> bluephantom: you are on your ubuntu computer now?
[15:37] <bluephantom> ikonia: i don't understand @_@
[15:37] <bluephantom> no, i use windows now
[15:37] <Andycasss> ikonia: yes, i can ping them
[15:37] <ikonia> bluephantom: on the ubuntu computer login, and type in a shell "id"
[15:37] <bluephantom> jrib:no, i use windows now
[15:37] <ikonia> Andycasss: ok, so "nslookup www.google.com" see what happens
[15:37] <Andycasss> ikonia: those are my isp's ns
[15:38] <ikonia> Andycasss: but IS ubuntu using those dns servers ?
[15:38] <Jay955> ok how do i creat an accound and on what system ubuto or xp
[15:38] <jrib> bluephantom: can you tell me the ip for your ubuntu computer (pm me if you want) so I can see if I get prompted for a password here?
[15:38] <maxsoft> hi all. need I to be a 'root' user to allow remoteAccess?
[15:38] <ikonia> maxsoft: no
[15:38] <Andycasss> ikonia: yes, i set them in my /etc/network/interfaces
[15:38] <Andycasss> hold on, ill give you my conf
[15:38] <ikonia> Andycasss: thats not where they are set
[15:38] <ikonia> Andycasss: show me /etc/resolv.conf
[15:38] <Andycasss> oh...
[15:39] <erUSUL> Switch^: have you found something?
[15:39] <ikonia> Andycasss: if in doubt - use the gui
[15:39] <shade052> Jay955: you create a account on ubuntu with the name of the windows machine
[15:39] <mynyml> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and my mic doesnt work. I use skype all the time so it's really important to me, and i havent found any solution via googe. any help would be greatly appreciated
[15:39] <maxsoft> dont work vnc server with no 'root' user. I try to connect and dont work.
[15:39] <joshuaN> is anyone here who would be willing to help me get a wireless driver....
[15:39] <Jay955> ok
[15:39] <blue|palm> hi, is there a command line tool for checking the free space of a disk?
[15:39] <bluephantom> ikonia:uid=1000(bluephantom) gid=1000(bluephantom) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom)..............................
[15:39] <jrib> blue|palm: df -h
[15:39] <maxsoft> with a root urser it works.
[15:39] <erUSUL> blue|palm: df -h
[15:39] <Jay955> brb
[15:39] <ikonia> bluephantom: thank you
[15:40] <mynyml> Blue-Omega: df
[15:40] <cpk1> joshuaN: you mean get a wireless driver to work?
[15:40] <shade052> Jay955: try "sudo useradd machine_name"
[15:40] <tracker1> hi, I'm trying to get some form of nautilus scripts for svn, and none seem to be showing up... can anyone help?
[15:40] <khelll> am trying to run ruby-ldap , when am doing ruby extconf.rb  ,    am getting : "checking for ldap.h"... no and it fails.... any suggestion?
[15:40] <ikonia> shade052: he doesn't need a machine name user adding
[15:40] <joshuaN> well yeah, i have a Gemtek 'USB wireless LAN' device
[15:40] <joshuaN> and the default drivers don't seemt o detect it
[15:40] <ikonia> Jay955: you just need a username on the linux box to map to your windows user name "sudo smbpasswd -a" to add a username and password that matchines your windows username and password
[15:40] <tracker1> I've logged out, and re-logged int... the one I am really wanting to use is NautilusSvn from here... http://www.jasonfield.com/freebies/ ... I'm running gutsy, and am up to date on updates
[15:40] <Andycasss> ikonia: Thanks, its working now!
[15:41] <shade052> ikonia: i had the same prob once it worked fine! with that. any other name was not loggin in
[15:41] <ikonia> Andycasss: ok, mega. I've got to drive home now, so if you need me, shout in a bit
[15:41] <Gigamo> I have a problem with my cpu frequency. I have a intel T7700 and the freq governor is somehow set to "userspace", while it should be "ondemand". As a result of this, my frequency is locked at 2GHz instead of jumping between 800mhz-2400mhz. How can I change it?
[15:41] <shade052> ikonia: any other name was workin with other distros though
[15:42] <Andycasss> ikonia: ok
[15:42] <marion> Help: How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my usb floppy in plugged in?
[15:44] <marion> Help: How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my usb floppy in plugged in?
[15:44] <cpk1> joshuaN: what does it say about the device when you do lshw?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Gigamo: sudo sh -c "echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[15:45] <joshuaN>  description: Wireless interface
[15:45] <joshuaN>        physical id: 2
[15:45] <joshuaN>        logical name: wlan0
[15:45] <joshuaN>        serial: 00:16:44:16:4a:02
[15:45] <joshuaN>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[15:45] <joshuaN>        configuration: broadcast=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g
[15:45] <FloodBot2> joshuaN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <Switch^> guys, I have a question; how to change the speed of my 100mbps full-duplex eth0 to 10mbps half-duplex?
[15:45] <bluephantom> ikonia: so ,where is the problem?
[15:45] <joshuaN> ls
[15:46] <cpk1> joshuaN: it already has a logical name which would suggest that it has been detected
[15:46] <JewStyleKungFu> I'm trying to mount my NTFS file system and it's saying "Mount failed: Device or resource busy"
[15:47] <cpk1> joshuaN: try 'iwlist scan' and see if wlan0 does anything
[15:47] <marion> Help: How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my usb floppy in plugged in?
[15:47] <d_mitry> in kde, when i mount an ntfs partition, i am given the error, "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000". could someone help?
[15:48] <nickrud> JewStyleKungFu: probably, either it's already mounted or you're trying to mount the wrong partition (which is already mounted)
[15:48] <joshuaN> interface does not support scannign
[15:48] <joshuaN> o
[15:48] <pepperjack> marion: im curious.. what is the point of a usb floppy when you can just use a usb pendrive?
[15:48] <joshuaN> wlan0: no scan results
[15:48] <JewStyleKungFu> ah
[15:48] <erUSUL> Gigamo: "sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand"  is easier ;P
[15:49] <erUSUL> pepperjack: legacy data on floppies
[15:49] <majorjrk> when i use samba to acces my windows computer, i cant transfer files only create folders, it seems if i try to transfer anything it tries to replace the folder im in also or something, could anyone help me
[15:50] <niuq> why i have to use -o and loop option for mounting a image iso?
[15:50] <mavi-> becuase its a loopback mount
[15:51] <mavi-> -o(ption) loop(back)
[15:51] <Gigamo> erUSUL: thanks
[15:51] <Andycasss> When trying to boot i get "unable to start a standalone server: address already in use" then it halts for about 10 min and then restarts with some networkmanager errors. I think pureftpd and mail server are conflicting. Sometimes it boots nicely too...
[15:52] <niuq> mavi-: this is right? sudo mount -o loop /media/cdrom0/Lynda.com - Flash CS3 - Essential Trainingt.iso Desktop/FlashCS3T/
[15:52] <mavi-> those spaces in the filename you need to escape
[15:52] <mavi-> or put it in " "
[15:52] <nickrud> niuq: put " " around the /media .....iso
[15:53] <joshuaN> cpk, ya there?
[15:53] <niuq> ok
[15:54] <dcesiel__> Hey does anyone know how to change the syntax highlighting in gedit so that if statements aren't white?
[15:54] <NeanT> hi guys .. is there an unofficial repository to update Transmission in Ubuntu ? the version from the official repo is really old..
[15:54] <dcesiel__> in C
[15:54] <erUSUL> NeanT: transmission web page has deb for ubuntu iirc or try in getdeb
[15:54] <pepperjack> NeanT: maybe getdeb.net instead
[15:54] <DVS01> hi
[15:55] <NeanT> thx.. didn't know of getdeb.. will check it now
[15:55] <broken__> Ubuntu uses gcc 4.1?
[15:55] <broken__> Hmm, its not possible to downgrade is it? to 3.4x
[15:55] <erUSUL> broken__: gutsy does (4.2 is aviable but not default)
[15:55] <DVS01> my sound stopped working all of a sudden. i am using ubuntu 7.10, hda intel analog devices ad1984. the volume is set to max in the mixer. when i click on the test buttons under sound preferences, i don't hear anything
[15:55] <dcesiel__> No one knows how to change syntax highlighting in gedit?
[15:56] <erUSUL> broken__: they are aviable too (gcc-3.3 and 3.4
[15:56] <DVS01> i diagnosed my audio input hardware, but i seem to be hearing everything else fine.. so something's wrong with the sound in the os =/
[15:56] <broken__> erUSUL, well this kinda sucks I wanted to use my two ubuntu machines with distcc but my gentoo box is gcc 3.4
[15:56] <DVS01> wait.. bio hardware.. would that still be called hardware? =P
[15:56] <DVS01> meatware
[15:57] <serenityUK> wetware
[15:57] <DArkGatox> asd
[15:57] <DVS01> im ending up having to use this vista box to play music.. :(
[15:58] <joshuaN> does anyone know why I can't locate my wireless network from ubuntu...
[15:59] <erUSUL> joshuaN: sudo iwlist «iface» scan
[15:59] <joshuaN> what are around iface?
[16:00] <broken__> erUSUL, well I installed gcc 3.4 how can I make sure its being used?
[16:00] <serenityUK> wlan0
[16:00] <daniel92> probly eth1
[16:00] <cannontr> I have a last gasp desperate plea to see if there is a way I can fix a server I have remotely fubarred
[16:00] <cannontr> I managed to chown the entire filesystem while sudoed
[16:00] <erUSUL> broken__: the usual way is to set CC shell variable... not sure how it is done with distcc
[16:01] <cannontr> :(
[16:01] <jrib> cannontr: and now you can't sudo?
[16:01] <joshuaN> it finds the network that way...
[16:01] <joshuaN> how do i then connect...
[16:01] <cannontr> I am still logged in as the user who has ownership of all files though
[16:01] <broken__> erUSUL, I Just want ubuntu to be using gcc 3.4 would you know how to set that?
[16:01] <broken__> distcc doesn't care a bout that, just cares about the same gcc versions across all machines.
[16:02] <cannontr> is there anyway I can somehow re-own the sudo command so I can get back in as root
[16:02] <taher> hi to every body
[16:02] <serenityUK> cannontr, su
[16:02] <MasterShrek> broken__, why not just upgrade your gentoo box's gcc?
[16:02] <tapas> cannontr: sudo su?
[16:03] <edju> will a w32codecs install work on amd64?
[16:03] <broken__> MasterShrek, because its a hardened stage/source which only runs on gcc 3.4
[16:03] <nickrud> edju: no, there's w64codecs available on medibuntu.org
[16:03] <joshuaN> if i can find a network with iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:03] <edju> Nicke, thanks!
[16:03] <cannontr> serenity, su will not work as I get "setgid: Operation not permitted"
[16:03] <joshuaN> why wouldn't it allow me to connect
[16:03] <jrib> cannontr: not really.  Best way is to have physical access.  I'll throw this idea with the warning that I have no idea if it will make your computer explode:  You could create some startup script to fix sudo.  Assuming your computer still manages to boot and start ssh, then you could login and use sudo again after rebooting.  I'd recreate the situation locally in vbox and test what you try though
[16:04] <edju> nickrud, opps.  Thanks!
[16:04] <erUSUL> broken__: dunno how to do it or if that's a good idea....
[16:04] <broken__> ...
[16:04] <serenityUK> joshuaN, you need to tell it which one is the default access point...
[16:04] <joshuaN> serenity, how do i go about doing that
[16:05] <nickrud> cannontr: you chowned the entire filesystem, /etc and all ? If you did that, you got lots more problems than sudo
[16:05] <serenityUK> joshuaN, i forget exact i'm not on the laptop.. somehting like   sudo iwlist wlan0 ap 1
[16:05] <csb0> hi. i want to install and run an sftp daemon on my ubuntu box. i've googled a bit, but can't find any info on it. it's all about vsftp, which, afaik, is a normal ftp server that is supposed to pretty secure, but not a secure ftp server as in sftp.
[16:05] <MasterShrek> broken__, gcc -V 3.4    will allow you to compile using gcc 3.4
[16:05] <MasterShrek> broken__, but i dont konw how to make it default to 3.4
[16:05] <serenityUK> joshuaN,where 1 is the ID from the scan
[16:06] <cannontr> i know nick, we may just rebuild
[16:06] <broken__> MasterShrek, hmm ok.
[16:06] <csb0> anyone knows if there's a simple package for me to download, or how i do to tunnel vsftp through ssh, etc?
[16:06] <broken__> MasterShrek, thanks.
[16:06] <serenityUK> joshuaN, if it works by command you can set in a file to default every boot
[16:06] <MasterShrek> ahh broken__, just symlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 instead of /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
[16:06] <nickrud> broken__: you could simply export CC="gcc-3.4" , or maybe change the gcc link to point to gcc-3.4
[16:06] <broken__> oh ok, makes sense.
[16:06] <MasterShrek> broken__, although that may render it useless, i dont know lol
[16:06] <jrib> cannontr: if you need this system to be reliable, then yes reinstall
[16:06] <MasterShrek> broken__, just make sure you remember you did that in case you end up having to change it back
[16:07] <majorjrk> How do i rar something with zero compression via shell ?
[16:07] <serenityUK> majorjrk, that's what tar is for
[16:07] <MrKnights> Hello, erm i have a problem i've just install ubuntu on my pc on my seond partition, first contains windows vista basicly i wanna dual boot but i think i installed the mdr in the wrong place because i dont get grub i'v tryed configured windows boot loader with nerogrub to fix the problem but i'm kinda stuck any ideas?
[16:08] <majorjrk> serenityUK: does tar open on windows computers ?
[16:08] <Stormx2> MrKnights: Have you tried placing commas in your sentences?
[16:08] <joshuaN> the ESSID?
[16:08] <erUSUL> majorjrk: rar 0 compression? why would you want that?
[16:08] <serenityUK> majorjrk, i know 7zip can read it
[16:08] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, with winrar it will
[16:08] <Stormx2> MrKnights, you've installed ubuntu after windows, yeah?
[16:08] <MrKnights> stormx2: yes
[16:08] <nickrud> MrKnights: if you can change choose the device you boot, try booting the second hard drive, see if grub is there.
[16:08] <majorjrk> i just need to zip it so i can transfer via smb, it wont let me upload folders only single file
[16:09] <Stormx2> MrKnights, and yet windows boots up automatically without offering to load ubuntu?
[16:09] <MrKnights> nickrub: both opertating systems are on one hard disk
[16:09] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, samba wont allow you to upload folders? thats very strange
[16:09] <serenityUK> joshuaN, does it have an ID like 2 or 7?   with ur neighbours wireless?   i'd have to boot my laptop to check
[16:09] <erUSUL> majorjrk: use tar... "tar -cvf file.tar dir/"
[16:09] <MrKnights> Stormx2: yes i tryed fixing it though
[16:10] <Stormx2> MrKnights, you followed the instructions in the wiki?
[16:10] <Andycasss> When trying to boot i get "unable to start a standalone server: address already in use" then it halts for about 10 min and then restarts with some networkmanager errors. I think pureftpd and mail server are conflicting. Sometimes it boots nicely too...
[16:10] <joshuaN> theres 'Cell 01'
[16:10] <joshuaN> there's channel '1'
[16:10] <erUSUL> MrKnights: maybe you instaled grub on the second partition mbr?? mark the ubuntu partition as the bootable one then?
[16:10] <MrKnights> Stormmx2: no i didn't, i didn't even look for it. i figured grub would override the mdr as normal
[16:11] <serenityUK> not channel try cell?
[16:11] <joshuaN> i haven't figured out the exact command yet
[16:11] <majorjrk> omg, now suddenly i cant even transfer single files via smb
[16:11] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, whats the error?
[16:11] <Stormx2> MrKnights, I don't know why it wouldn't o.O
[16:11] <idefix_> does anyone have experience with SANE?
[16:11] <majorjrk> it seems like it tries to replace target folder in the same time
[16:12] <MrKnights> erUSUL: yeah that might work only problem is i have no idea how to reinstalled grubs mdr
[16:12] <joshuaN> when i did the one you told me it says ap needs fewer arguments (max 0)
[16:12] <Stormx2> MrKnights, how many hard disks do you have?
[16:12] <qlin> how to resolve a netbios name from linux?
[16:12] <serenityUK> joshuaN, hang on i'm booting up old laptop.. it's slow lol
[16:12] <MrKnights> stormx2: yeah i found it werid
[16:12] <MrKnights> stormx2: one its 350gb
[16:13] <majorjrk> or it says An older item named smb://user@host/upload' already exist
[16:13] <majorjrk> this is when i simply try to copy a file over to that folder
[16:13] <SexyJames1337> hi everyone. I've just put the ubuntu disc into my brothers computer and im about to install it... when it started up the screen went corrupted for a minute or so before it worked, is that normal?
[16:13] <Stormx2> MrKnights, my best guess is that grub encountered some errors
[16:13] <Stormx2> !recoveringubuntu | MrKnights
[16:13] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, i always mount the samba share when transferring big/multiple files
[16:13] <Stormx2> o.O
[16:13] <MrKnights> Stormx2: lmao that kinda didn't work
[16:14] <Stormx2> !grub | MrKnights
[16:14] <ubotu> MrKnights: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:14] <Stormx2> That first link
[16:14] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, sudo apt-get install smbfs       then: sudo mount -t smbfs //ip.address.of.server/share /mount/point
[16:14] <majorjrk> i really just need these files transfered so i can wipe this computer clean
[16:14] <MrKnights> sormx2: right thanks :P
[16:15] <serenityUK> ok joshuaN sorry i got it wrong.... i used a command such as     sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:50:FC:D4:E7:3C
[16:15] <serenityUK> joshuaN  where the long number is your access point from the scan
[16:15] <pb_ee1> heya
[16:15] <xGeek> majorjrk: I've always had a question about samba that I thought was too stupid to ask but here goes. How do you enable guest accounts? Like with simple file sharing in windows you just browse to the directory. When connecting to a samba share I always have to have an account that matches my windows account.
[16:15] <pb_ee1> i'm looking for a way to create my own keyboard layout, is there a way to do so with ubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:16] <joshuaN> k, the command worked...
[16:16] <serenityUK> joshuaN, wow!  can you ping www.google.com?
[16:17] <majorjrk> xGeek: dude dont ask me
[16:17] <serenityUK> joshuaN, my lights flash when connected to access point
[16:17] <Blinkiz> Having software raid (md) mirror on two sata disks. When I download with rtorrent it always says "hash check failed, chunks missing". From the rtorrent irc channel they say am having hardware problems. I have checked in syslog, messages and kern.log but it does not exist any related errors. Please help me troubleshoot
[16:17] <majorjrk> if only i know a way to put this entire computer totaly open and vulnerable with no security whatsover so even a stupid user like me could get a hold of my files ;(
[16:18] <cannontr> jrib, thankyou for the suggestion. The current situation is the website that is running on it is working perfectly. If I reboot remotely and it does not come up again, I am stuck until tuesday until we can get someone onsite. I've just spoken to our ISP and we've opted to leave it up and running and do a rebuild on tuesday
[16:18] <majorjrk> MasterShrek: where do i input username and password ?
[16:18] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=pass //ip/share /mount/point
[16:19] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, you can even add an entry to /etc/fstab if you want it to auto mount all the time: //ip/share  /mount/point   smbfs  username=user,password=pass  0    0
[16:19] <DRebellion> majorjrk: you should try cifs (as opposed to smbfs) first.
[16:19] <xGeek> MasterShrek: will that work without the username and password is windows has simple file sharing enabled?
[16:19] <MasterShrek> good point DRebellion, i always forget about cifs now
[16:19] <MasterShrek> xGeek, not sure, wasnt aware it was a windows server
[16:19] <xGeek> This is in my case.
[16:20] <xGeek> Samba has always been a headache for me.
[16:20] <majorjrk> bah i made mountpoint root
[16:20] <xGeek> Let me rephrase. Samba has always been a headache for me when going from a linux computer to a windows computer.
[16:20] <int[w]> hello
[16:20] <MasterShrek> xGeek, samba is nice if you understand how its doing what its doing, unfortunately i dont have any experience with a windows server and a linux client, the opposite really
[16:20] <serenityUK> welcome
[16:20] <bulmer> whoa  yahoo was offered 44.6 billion by microsoft
[16:21] <xGeek> My linux computer is actually my server.
[16:21] <Daviey> !offtopic > bulmer
[16:21]  * nickrud checks his stock prices
[16:21] <xGeek> However it would be nice if I could also connect to a share on my windows computer from the linux computer.
[16:21] <majorjrk> how do i change user from root to my own on a folder
[16:21] <int[w]> i have a problem ...
[16:21] <int[w]> any aplication i try to install i get
[16:21] <int[w]> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'mplayer' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[16:21] <int[w]> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict
[16:21] <edju> Just installed libdvdcss2 and mplayer, stuck in a dvd and got 'error opening/initiaselected videoout (-vo) device."  Any takers?lizing the
[16:21] <serenityUK> majorjrk, chown
[16:21] <int[w]> that's just an example
[16:21] <int[w]> can somebody please help ?
[16:21] <nickrud> majorjrk:   sudo chown <you>:<you> /path/to/folder
[16:21] <MasterShrek> chown user:group /path/to/file  (use chown -R user:group /path/to/dir     to change ownership recursivly)
[16:22] <csb0> (this is probably a dumb question, but that can't be helped.) i have just set up an ubuntu LAMP server. if critical patches for apache2 etc comes out, will my box be automatically patched? if not, what do i need to do to accomplish this?
[16:22] <majorjrk> or wait, mount wasnt root, but i still cant do anything inside it
[16:22] <MasterShrek> int[w], use synaptic for your package management?
[16:22] <edju> let me try that again.  Just installed libdvdcss2 and mplayer, stuck in a dvd and got 'error opening/initializing the selected videoout (-vo) device."  Any takers?l
[16:22] <int[w]> it won't install from there either
[16:22] <serenityUK> int[w], are you using add/remove from the menu?
[16:22] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, just use sudo when copying your files, it probably has to do with the permissions of the mount point before it was mounted
[16:22] <int[w]> yes
[16:22] <ThipThip> I'm just about at my wits end with embedded videos - they just appear gray.  I cannot seem to figure this one out.  There are many having the same problems on the forums, but the suggested fixes seem haphazard and none have worked for me.
[16:23] <nickrud> csb0: critical patches will be offered to you from the gutsy-security repo, make sure that it's enabled in the updates tab of system->admin->software sources
[16:23] <int[w]> it's a new installed system
[16:23] <int[w]> i tryed to install mplayer and i got that
[16:23] <int[w]> i tryed amarok .. same
[16:23] <MasterShrek> xGeek, for the windows as a client, i usually map the network drive, and click "use a different username and password"  then on the linux box: sudo smbpasswd -a user     and create a samba password for a present user
[16:23] <csb0> nickrud, thanks, but i only have ssh access. how do check that this is enabled (and if it isn'
[16:23] <csb0> t, enable it) from the command line?
[16:23] <MasterShrek> int[w], have you tried: sudo apt-get update    and    sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:24] <dn4> !pgp
[16:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:24] <serenityUK> int[w], the is a menu option in Synaptic...  Edit->Fix broken packages....  maybe try?
[16:24] <majorjrk> ahh finaly it works
[16:24] <int[w]> yes ...
[16:24] <nickrud> csb0: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , remove the # from any line with gutsy-security in it
[16:24] <Duke_Fluke> edju, do you have the file .mplayer/gui.conf  in your home dir?
[16:24] <csb0> nickrud, thanks!
[16:24] <Andycasss> When trying to shutdown i get "Stopping domain name service . . . bind" and then it just hangs there for about 10 minutes and then shuts down? Whats wrong?
[16:24] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, do you have a dns server on that machine? if not you can probably remove it
[16:25] <edju> Duke_Fluke, No, just config
[16:25] <MasterShrek> well, its obvious you have a dns on it, but do you use it is the question
[16:25] <Duke_Fluke> edju, check out this link then http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/mplayer-error-message-error-openinginitializing-video-out-device-458293/
[16:25] <int[w]> will try that serenityUK , thank you
[16:26] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: i do have a dyndns updater on my system, but i dont know anything about dns server
[16:26] <csb0> nickrud, just a final question to make sure i get this important part right: merely uncommenting that line will make sure patches are automatically installed once they are released? i don't have to run some update command with cron or somesuch?
[16:26] <xGeek> SWEET
[16:26] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, is your system acting as a router?
[16:26] <nickrud> csb0: the default is offering, but you'd have to manually install the updates. You can change that to automatically updating apache2 from the security repo by editing /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[16:27] <MasterShrek> must be...
[16:27] <edju> Duke_Fluke, thanks.will do.
[16:27] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: no, it acts as a server
[16:27] <|Whitor|> Hi, I just moved a hard drive from one laptop to a very similar laptop (t61 to a t61p) Most things are working fine... but some are not... is there any way to force Ubuntu to re-setup the hardware portion of the OS ?
[16:27] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, because if its not, i dont think dyndns needs to be on that, i think dyndns is supposed to be on your router, could be wrong though
[16:27] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, unless you dont have a router i guess...
[16:28] <nickrud> csb0: um, I'm not sure if the server runs a regular check for updates automatically though.
[16:28] <ComputerHermit> hello ubntu
[16:28] <Duke_Fluke> basically it says to create the aforementioned file in your home dir and make sure the file has the line vo_driver = "xv"
[16:28] <Duke_Fluke> edju
[16:28] <DRebellion> MasterShrek: nah, dyndns offer software that you run on your computer to update their dns entries.
[16:28] <MasterShrek> |Whitor|, the hardware drivers are loaded on the fly during boot up i think, which hardware specifically isnt working properly?
[16:28] <MasterShrek> i was not aware DRebellion
[16:28] <DRebellion> MasterShrek: and then there's only a handful of 'officially registered' routers.
[16:28] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: no i need the dyndns to update nameservers so that people can connect on my dynamic ip
[16:28] <xGeek> MasterShrek: a lot of new routers also have sofware built in
[16:29] <csb0> nickrud, i don't have any 50unattended-upgrades file in that directory. i have 01autoremove, 01ubuntu, 05aptitude, and 70debconf
[16:29] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, i do the same thing, but its set up in my router not on my server
[16:29] <csb0> nickrud, what would be the command to check for updates, then? so i can put it as a cron job
[16:29] <Whitor> MasterShrek: Weird things... like the volume buttons on the keyboard
[16:29] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, but i dont even know if thats your problem, it might not even be the dns part of the shutdown that its hanging on, but rather wahtever is after it
[16:29] <nickrud> csb0: there's a package called unattended-upgrades (just found it) that's what you want
[16:30] <bahadunn> greetings
[16:30] <MasterShrek> Whitor, probably just reconfigure your xserver: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:30] <mynyml> i can't get my mic to work with skype, been researching for hours on google. any tip would be greatly appreciated
[16:30] <serenityUK> welcome
[16:30] <Whitor> MasterShrek: Thanks for the lead
[16:30] <bahadunn> how can I take a ubuntu package and turn it into a debian package?
[16:30] <MasterShrek> bahadunn, it already is, hence the .deb
[16:30] <bahadunn> I need libapache2-mod-layout 5.0 which ubuntu has a .deb for but debian does not
[16:31] <bahadunn> MasterShrek: yes but that does not mean that ubuntu's package is okay to use on debian
[16:31] <MasterShrek> compile it from source then
[16:31] <nickrud> bahadunn: if in doubt, find the source package and build it on debian
[16:31] <MasterShrek> id just dpkg -i package.deb       chances are itll work
[16:31] <erUSUL> !intelhda | mynyml
[16:31] <ubotu> mynyml: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[16:31]  * MasterShrek likes to break things =P
[16:31] <Kloss> how can i get an ubuntu desktop like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ ?
[16:32]  * nickrud wonders what else one would expect from an ogre
[16:32] <mynyml> erUSUL: hmm, i do have an intel card and havent come across this page. thanks
[16:32] <MasterShrek> lol @ nickrud
[16:32] <csb0> nickrud, i just installed it via aptitude. no idea if it works, but thanks. indeed it seems to be what i want
[16:33] <serenityUK> Kloss, you need Compiz-fusion along with some drivers for the 3D card
[16:33] <MasterShrek> Kloss, what kind of graphics card do you have, and what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:34] <nickrud> csb0: if you look at that 50unattended-upgrades it will show you what's being done.  /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz  has the full options
[16:34] <Kloss> i am running 7.10 gutsy and i have ATI Radeon 9600. :-)
[16:34] <MasterShrek> !ati | Kloss
[16:34] <ubotu> Kloss: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:34] <wolfman2323> hi.. how could i play dvd on ubuntu..
[16:34] <MasterShrek> Kloss, runing ubuntu (gnome) right?
[16:35] <MasterShrek> !compiz-fusion | Kloss
[16:35] <ubotu> Kloss: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:35] <Kloss> MasterShrek: yes. gnome
[16:35] <Duke_Fluke> wolfman2323, have you installed libdvdcss?
[16:35] <MasterShrek> Kloss, have a look at those two links that ubotu gave you :)
[16:35] <majorjrk> bah: mv: writing `winmaskin/ps.rar': Input/output error || thing is i think same size both times
[16:35] <wolfman2323> duke. i have no idea..im new to linux..
[16:35] <quittt> hello
[16:35] <quittt> how do I update my fstab and my GRUB automaticly?
[16:36] <Duke_Fluke> wolfman2323,  do you know how to open a shell?
[16:36] <MasterShrek> !dvd | wolfman2323
[16:36] <ubotu> wolfman2323: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:36] <MasterShrek> !medibuntu | Duke_Fluke
[16:36] <wolfman2323> duke.. the command line?
[16:36] <ubotu> Duke_Fluke: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:36] <XLV> !restricted > wolfman2323
[16:36] <MasterShrek> !medibuntu | wolfman2323
[16:36] <Kloss> MasterShrek: but that restricted driver has also disadvantages right?
[16:36] <ubotu> wolfman2323: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:36] <MasterShrek> sorry
[16:37] <MasterShrek> Kloss, nothing that would hinder your experience
[16:37] <MasterShrek> :)
[16:37] <wolfman2323> ubotu.. ok
[16:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:37] <Duke_Fluke> thx MasterShrek
[16:37] <MythbuntuGuest50> hello one question how can i close xorg and work with only teh console?
[16:37] <MasterShrek> wolfman2323, ubotu is a bot, no need to thank him :)
[16:37] <quittt> !grub
[16:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:37]  * erUSUL finally a flash plugin nonfree fixed package has hited proposed....
[16:37] <wolfman2323> ah ok.. master..
[16:37] <serenityUK> Kloss, compiz is built into gutsy.. once you get the drivers installed it is easy to enable the effects
[16:37] <MasterShrek> MythbuntuGuest50, ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to a terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[16:37] <wolfman2323> so.. is there a way that i could play dvd movies.in ubuntu
[16:37] <MythbuntuGuest50> ah ok mutch thanks
[16:37] <MetzrKr> Das soll die party sein???
[16:38] <MasterShrek> MythbuntuGuest50, ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 are different terminals for you
[16:38]  * erUSUL althought gives a 404 not found on the es mirror :(
[16:38] <nickrud> erUSUL: my gosh, is there a konqueror package there also?
[16:38] <Duke_Fluke> wolfman2323, yes
[16:38] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone using dual monitors with an ATI card?  Could I see your xorg.conf file, or PM you?  Having trouble here and I've tried following numerous tutorials.
[16:38] <MasterShrek> !de
[16:38] <serenityUK> MetzrKr, | !de
[16:38] <MasterShrek> ubotu!
[16:38] <MasterShrek> lol
[16:38] <Kloss> serenityUK: thank you. i also once got it running. but where can i find that beryl skin?
[16:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:38] <erUSUL> nickrud: dunno i'm on ubuntu (gnome) 64 bits
[16:38] <wolfman2323> duke.. pls help..
[16:39] <Duke_Fluke> wolfman2323, did you follow the link the MasterShrek gave you?
[16:39] <dazjorz> Hi
[16:39] <cellofellow> wolfman2323: to play DVD's, use VLC and libdvdcss2 (from Medibuntu)
[16:39] <MasterShrek> hello dazjorz
[16:39]  * nickrud won't see that flashplugin anyway, he stays away from proposed
[16:39] <MetzrKr> sorry wron window
[16:39] <dazjorz> I'm having the problem that I tell one of my network interfaces to connect to a network X and then it autoreconnects to another network Y (not in /etc/network/interfaces at *that* moment)
[16:39] <ConstyXIV> are there by chance any WinXP/2K-like metacity and icon themes for ubuntu?
[16:39] <wolfman2323> duke.. i missed what he said..
[16:39] <dazjorz> A log is at http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=2140
[16:39] <dazjorz> could somebody have a look?
[16:39] <DrainBamage> yellow. any one comfortable with PLAYSTATION 3 programing???
[16:39] <serenityUK> Kloss, beryl is replaced by compiz for a year now...  goto http://www.compiz-themes.org/  to get emerald skins and stuff
[16:39]  * MasterShrek contemplates installing kubuntu 7.10
[16:39] <Duke_Fluke> !dvd | wolfman2323
[16:39] <ubotu> wolfman2323: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:39] <wolfman2323> brb
[16:40] <MasterShrek> DrainBamage, one day...what kind of programming? chances are youll need a toolchain
[16:40] <quittt> hi
[16:40] <Kloss> serenityUK: ok i see. thank you. bye...
[16:40] <quittt> I changed a grub menu but always I do update-grub I get a wrong configuration
[16:40] <quittt> how do I change it?
[16:40] <cellofellow> quittt: can you elaborate?
[16:40] <MasterShrek> DrainBamage, check in #ps3dev  if they cant help you there, theyll probably point you to somewhere u can get help
[16:41] <DrainBamage> hey! thanx
[16:41] <nickrud> quittt: could you put the menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[16:41] <quittt> I added another partition between Ubuntu and Windows and because of it the Ubuntu partition one changed
[16:41] <DrainBamage> thanx MasterShrek.
[16:41] <dazjorz> Somebody? :/
[16:41] <quittt> so I need to change (0,1) to (0,2)
[16:41] <quittt> but always I do update-grub, the wrong configuration goes back again
[16:41] <DrainBamage> masterShrek. if you know maybe something about accesing the RSX gpu on ps3?
[16:41] <MasterShrek> DrainBamage, although i dont know if the ps3 is capable of running unsigned code at the moment, but i read that it may be getting custom firmware in the near future
[16:42] <MasterShrek> no idea about that DrainBamage, i have yet to purchase my 3
[16:42] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, can you be more specific?
[16:42] <zoli2k> Hi! how can I redirect an output of a command with sudo to a root privileged file. "sudo foo > spam" doesn't work.
[16:42] <majorjrk> MasterShrek: i get cp: writing `winmaskin/camtur.tar': Input/output error ||| Do you think this could be due to Wifi trouble ?
[16:42] <DrainBamage> masterShrek: i dont have one either. but the university bought 30 of them :D want to make a cluster :D
[16:42] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: That'll be hard, I don't know what causes this, either
[16:42] <DrainBamage> thanx anyway
[16:42]  * erUSUL the package in proposed busted my flash install :(
[16:42] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: It "just reconnects"
[16:42] <majorjrk> my files only transfer 5-8 mb before they halt, and the error comes after a slight pause
[16:42] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, possibly, although doubtful, try copying just that file by itself
[16:43] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I am connected to the WPA-PSK secured DaZjorz network, then put the interface down and tell it to connect to FON_DaZjorz
[16:43] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, what does that mean "it just recconnects"?
[16:43] <quittt> do you have an idea?
[16:43] <MasterShrek> DrainBamage, thats so incredibly sexy i dont know what to say haha
[16:43] <nickrud> lol erUSUL see my last about proposed :)
[16:43] <MasterShrek> 30 ps3's in a cluster....mmmz
[16:43] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Then I check iwconfig, and it indeed shows essid=FON_DaZjorz but the card shows it's not associated
[16:43] <DrainBamage> ;o) just showing off :)
[16:43] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Then I check iwconfig again, and it's connected back to essid=DaZjorz
[16:43] <dazjorz> http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=2140
[16:43] <bulmer> zoli2k-> that should have worked, what was your exact command?
[16:43] <ctrader> anyone familiar with DHCPD?
[16:43] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, what kind of nic is it and what driver are you using?
[16:43] <MasterShrek> ctrader, client or server?
[16:44] <DrainBamage> byee
[16:44] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: It's a Netgear with an Atheros chipset, I'm using madwifi
[16:44] <ctrader> server
[16:44]  * cellofellow just put a hold on flashplugin-nonfree untill further notice. :)
[16:44] <MasterShrek> nope, sorry
[16:44] <MasterShrek> !dhcp
[16:44] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[16:44] <ctrader> I want to know if there is a way to display option 82 information in the leases file?
[16:44] <quittt> nickrud, did you understand it?
[16:44] <nickrud> Quicksilva: did you put up the link to the pastebin, I missed it if you did
[16:44] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, can you pastebin the output lspci?
[16:44] <nickrud> Quicksilva: sorry, quittt see above
[16:45] <ctrader> Is there another channel I can join that might know more about networking/DHCPD?
[16:45] <zoli2k> bulmer: It can not work, because only the command is executed as root. The result is piped with the original user rights.
[16:45] <cellofellow> ctrader: I've not use dhcpd, but dnsmasq does the trick for me. It's pretty much the same thing you find on Linksys routers, but more configurable.
[16:45] <MasterShrek> ctrader, #networking
[16:45] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Yes, sure :)
[16:45] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: You're probably just interested in the line that describes the interface
[16:46] <dazjorz> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01)
[16:46] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, cool thx
[16:46] <bulmer> zoli2k-> and what is stopping you from then chmod the file used ?
[16:46] <ctrader> my reason for wondering is that I would like to know from what device a remote device is connecting up from.
[16:46] <quittt> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54342/
[16:47] <quittt> nickrud, everything is correct, besides that... maybe because Ubuntu wants to control it
[16:47] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, have you had problems from the start with this card? or did it work for a while and just started messing up?
[16:47] <majorjrk> I need files from my ubuntu to my vista laptop, this ubuntu computer is kinda broken, lots of things are messed up, i cant get samba working properly, can anyone recommend the easist and fastest foolproof way of transfering those files, security is not an issue
[16:47] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: It worked fine, and it still does, except for when I want to connect to a different network like this
[16:47] <bulmer> ctrader-> what do you mean what device the remote is connecting from? dhcp is normally localized
[16:47] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I'm even using it right now
[16:47] <serenityUK> nickrud, did you see the ircstats for last month.. during certain hours of the day you had more lines than ubotu!
[16:48] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: After I put back the interfaces with the old "DaZjorz" settings, it simply reconnects
[16:48] <DRebellion> majorjrk: netcat
[16:48] <pq-tmp> I have some problem with framebuffer console
[16:48] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: but when I ifdown the interface, put an interfaces there with dhcp, then set essid to FON_DaZjorz, it connects back to DaZjorz
[16:48] <csb0> nickrud, configure-index is empty and 50unattended-upgrades tell me nothing about how often this is run. is there any other way i can see this?
[16:48] <cellofellow> majorjrk: OpenSSH on the Ubuntu computer and WinSCP on the Vista computer should do the trick.
[16:48] <quittt> nickrud, linux partition is not hda2 anymore
[16:48] <quittt> it is not hda3
[16:48] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, you've totally lost me
[16:48] <majorjrk> cellofellow: this means i must use the shell a lot and configure etc ?
[16:48] <ctrader> I have remote switches that people can connect through.  I would like to be able to look in the leases file and see the option 82 information so I can see from what switch the connected and got an IP.
[16:48] <quittt> but it insists that it is hda2
[16:49] <bulmer> majorjrk-> if you have one of those external usb drive..quickest way i knew of
[16:49] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: The situation is a little complicated
[16:49] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I have a network DaZjorz, a network DaZjorz2, and a network FON_DaZjorz
[16:49] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: The first two are WPA-PSK encrypted, the third one is open
[16:49] <cellofellow> majorjrk: not at all, install the ssh server, and then login with your regular username and password using WinSCP, it's all graphical.
[16:49] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, so far so good
[16:49] <majorjrk> bulmer: i do, but will ubuntu write to that without messing up, not sure if its fat or ntfs
[16:49] <nickrud> quittt: could you put the complete error from  sudo update-grub on the pastebin as well
[16:49] <cellofellow> majorjrk: WinSCP can have an explorer-like or commander-like interface.
[16:49] <Bora> take that
[16:49] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Now, I'm connected to DaZjorz, which works just fine, I have an /etc/network/interfaces that describes how to connect to it (wpa-psk etcetera)
[16:49] <bulmer> ctrader manage your switch, look into the configs of the swith, is it doing the dhcp serving?
[16:49] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Only, I want to connect to FON_DaZjorz
[16:49] <quittt> nickrud, there is no error
[16:49] <nickrud> serenityUK: I think ubotu was down a lot :)
[16:49] <int[w]> solved ... seeps sources.list was all commented since the install took place
[16:50] <int[w]> have a nice day/evening
[16:50] <quittt> nickrud, I mean, the error is the mistake made
[16:50] <int[w]> bye
[16:50] <SexyJames1337> hi there, im totally new to linux but i was going to install ubuntu on my brothers pc because his xp is corrupted. do you think its a good idea? i loaded up the cd and the screen went corrupted for a minute or 2 before it worked, is that normal or is that a sign of bad things to come maybe?
[16:50] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: So I ifdown the interface, move the interfaces file and put in an empty one, then ifup it and make it connect to FON_DaZjorz by writing: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid FON_DaZjorz
[16:50] <majorjrk> cellofellow: ill try that if i cant use my external drive
[16:50] <ctrader> I can set it up for l2relay
[16:50] <quittt> nickrud, if I change it, and save and make update-grub, it goes back!
[16:50] <cellofellow> majorjrk: that should work just fine. :)
[16:50] <majorjrk> can i use a ntfs external drive and transfer from ubuntu ?
[16:50] <pq-tmp> I want to set a 16:10 framebuffer resolution for console (for example 1440x900), but no VESA 16:10 mode works on my computer
[16:50] <bulmer> majorjrk-> what files you need transfered over to the external USB drive? usualy a vfat format is adequate
[16:50] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Then I check iwconfig ath0, and it first shows it's trying to associate with FON_DaZjorz, and five seconds later it's associated to DaZjorz, the old network
[16:50] <nickrud> quittt: a sec, I'm checking a couple things in mine
[16:51] <ctrader> I have a central server that does the dhcp serving
[16:51] <majorjrk> bulmer: well, the drive is ntfs, and im not gonna wipe it clean
[16:51] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Surprisingly enough, it also says the key is off, so it's not actually connected, since the network has WPA
[16:51] <bulmer> majorjrk-> if the ntfs-3g is supported on your installed ubuntu, its possible
[16:51] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, can you try switching the essid on the routers?
[16:51] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Only the essid and AP change to indicate it's trying to associate with the wrong network, another network than the network I gave it to connect to
[16:51] <bulmer> majorjrk-> which ubuntu version you have installed?
[16:51] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: That's impossible
[16:51] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, linux can read/write ntfs these days
[16:51] <majorjrk> feisty i believe
[16:51] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I can't change the name of FON_DaZjorz
[16:51] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, oh? why?
[16:51] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, the boot logo doesn't work on mine I get a blank screen but everything else is perfect.. i think it is the monitor mode or something.. you can disable the logo and see the boot text instead
[16:52] <cellofellow> majorjrk: just install ntfs-3g
[16:52] <MasterShrek> majorjrk, that should be sufficient for ntfs-3g
[16:52] <bulmer> majorjrk-> am not sure about feisty, i know am sure of gutsy having the ntfs-3g support stock
[16:52] <pq-tmp> someone can help me with framebuffer?
[16:52] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, have you tested FON-DaZjorz with another client?
[16:52] <MasterShrek> you can easily install ntfs-3g on feisty
[16:52] <majorjrk> do i need to mount my external disk and etc ?
[16:52] <quittt> nickrud, very bizarre
[16:52] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: OK, thanks. by installing it shouldnt have any chance of breaking my brothers computer in any way should it? sorry to ask the noobish questions but ive used windows all my life...
[16:53] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I've been connected to it before... but I *might* just be able to ask a family member for her laptop and see if I can connect
[16:53] <cellofellow> bulmer: majorjrk: I use ntfs-3g on Feisty and Gutsy.
[16:53] <bulmer> majorjrk-> yes you must mount external drives
[16:53] <nickrud> quittt: change  # groot=(hd0,2)
[16:53] <nickrud> quittt: pretty sure that will fix it
[16:53] <majorjrk> well, i have no clue how do to that
[16:53] <SexyJames1337> judging from booting it from cd, it looks quite good
[16:53] <bulmer> cellofellow-> not on the gutsy i installed, it had ntfs-3g already
[16:53] <nickrud> csb0: looking
[16:53] <Duke_Fluke> Duke_Fluke, thats the first thing I would do make sure its not a problem with the access point first
[16:53] <bulmer> cellofellow-> i read you wrong..nm
[16:54] <ctrader> bulmer:  I have a central server that does the dhcp serving
[16:54] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz
[16:54] <dazjorz> hmmhm
[16:54] <cellofellow> bulmer: I had to install it in Feisty, yes, but it worked swell.
[16:54] <dazjorz> I'll ask her, be right back
[16:54] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, thats the first thing I would do make sure its not a problem with the access point first
[16:54] <quittt> nickrud, done
[16:54] <quittt> =]
[16:54] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, aslong as you don't install ONTOP of windows lol.  are you familiar with partitions?   when you install you can either let it use the free space from windows automatically or you can set up a separate partition ahead of time if you know what you want
[16:54] <bulmer> ctrader-> and how is that integrated to your switch?
[16:54] <quittt> do you knwo how to mount BeOS partition?
[16:55] <KELEBEK605USER2> Hello
[16:55] <pq-tmp> someone can help me with framebuffer issues?
[16:55] <ctrader> blumer: it is on the same network.  I am unclear what you are asking
[16:55] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: nope, can't check right now
[16:55] <dazjorz> :(
[16:55] <gurpreet> what does ubuntu symbol in the 2nd column of synaptic package manager's package list pane signify?
[16:55] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: his windows is corrupted, and we have no way of restoring it so he was going to use ubuntu. So we can just tell it to use the whole drive?
[16:56] <MichaelSammels> When I boot Fiesty Fawn I get MP-BIOS bug 8254: timer not connected to IO-APIC, so I use noapic and it freezes at 52% when booting.
[16:56] <majorjrk> any graphical tools i can use for mounting the drive =?
[16:56] <KELEBEK605USER2> www.mirclan.net www.mircmerkezi.net www.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.mircmerkezi.net http://haber.mirclan.net
[16:56] <KELEBEK605USER2> www.mirclan.net www.mircmerkezi.net www.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.mircmerkezi.net http://haber.mirclan.net
[16:56] <KELEBEK605USER2> www.mirclan.net www.mircmerkezi.net www.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.sohbet-turk.org http://mirc.mircmerkezi.net http://haber.mirclan.net
[16:56] <FloodBot2> KELEBEK605USER2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: I think the drive might actually be wiped
[16:56] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, is there any important data on the disk?   any files you need to backup?
[16:57] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, if you can't do that then I would try to change the essid of FON(ie the one that DOESN"T work) to the essid that does work temporarily to test
[16:57] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, make sure all settings are identical
[16:57] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: Nah, i did that already using knoppix, thanks for asking. Turned out the hard drive was broke, so we got a replacement. the recovery discs are faulty though i think and xp will not reinstall over it, it started and got part way through then failed. ubuntu should be able to still install though shouldnt it?
[16:58] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: The hard drive works now of course
[16:58] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I can't change the essid of FON_DaZjorz, and can't change any other settings about it
[16:58] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Also, I'm quite sure this is really a problem on this client
[16:58] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, well if there is nothing on the disk you need you can tell Ubuntu to use the whole disk when you install and overwrite any broken windows install
[16:58] <dazjorz> I'm getting the idea some daemon is interfering, a network manager or something like that, but I have none running, also checked with ps
[16:59] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, ok...can you test with another os then?
[16:59] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz,  windows or a livecd?
[16:59] <pq-tmp> someone can help me with framebuffer issues?
[16:59] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, if the LiveCD works it should be fine once installed.... can you reach google on the liveCD?
[16:59] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: OK. thankyou for all your help, i'll try it now and come back if i have any problems. Im on the desktop at the moment, i presume i click on the install icon on it?
[16:59] <MasterShrek> !someone | pq-tmp
[16:59] <ubotu> pq-tmp: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:59] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: yes i can
[16:59] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, you've got to isolate the problem somehow
[16:59] <jtt> any way to do a sound recording with a usb headset to test mic
[16:59] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: yes :/
[17:00] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, why can't you change the essid?
[17:00] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: because it's fixed in the router
[17:00] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, yes just double click.. it will ask a few questions about ur language and town not too hard
[17:00] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: it's a Fonera, it sends out a FON network and a private network
[17:00] <nickrud> csb0: I'm not real good at reading python but I *think* you need to add /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade to a cron. beware of this advice, check it out
[17:00] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: the FON network I can't change, only the "DaZjorz"
[17:00] <pq-tmp> I want to set a 16:10 framebuffer resolution for console (for example 1440x900), but no VESA 16:10 mode works on my computer
[17:00] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: Right, i'll give it a try. thanks again
[17:00] <fitztrev> What's the command to have one folder completely override the contents of another?
[17:00] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, come and ask if you want to disable the boot logo later
[17:01] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, crappy...well thats all the ideas I have sorry
[17:01] <pq-tmp> MasterShrek: I want to set a 16:10 framebuffer resolution for console (for example 1440x900), but no VESA 16:10 mode works on my computer. Can you help me?
[17:01] <MasterShrek> pq-tmp, nope sorry
[17:01] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I'll try some more :/
[17:02] <csb0> nickrud, ok, thanks. for some reason there is very scant information on unattended-upgrade on the net.
[17:02] <pq-tmp> or ,df ece g aot yd. xry yr aot m. yr p.l.ay yd. 'g.oycrb{
[17:02] <serenityUK> pq-tmp, which graphics card do you have... vesa drivers are for basic emergencies really
[17:02] <pq-tmp> nvidia
[17:02] <nickrud> csb0: not suprised really. I'd look on wiki.ubuntu.com for info, and in the bugs.launchpad.net database for inferential info
[17:03] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, just one more question you said "i'm quite sure that this is a problem with the client" what led you to draw this conclusion?
[17:03]  * cellofellow wants to know the same stuff as pq-tmp
[17:03]  * nickrud too, he thinks the right vesa stuff wasn't included in the kernel
[17:03]  * cellofellow has 1280x800 and Nvidia 6100
[17:04] <cellofellow> have a look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer
[17:04] <serenityUK> pq-tmp,  if you enable the restricted drivers you will be able to set the mode properly..  click on System->Admin->Restricted Driver and tick the box to enable...  after reboot type   sudo nvidia-settings   and you will have a nice control panel!   make sure you press the button to save changes to xorg.conf when done
[17:04] <Iradigalesc> Is it possible to see the ubuntulog source code?
[17:04] <cellofellow> serenityUK: that's for X.Org, we want the Kernel stuff.
[17:04] <pq-tmp> Xorg works well, I'd like to have a better resolution on console
[17:05] <nickrud> hmm
[17:05] <serenityUK> ooooooooooooooooooh
[17:05] <serenityUK> sorry
[17:05] <serenityUK> i think the highest is 1280x1024
[17:05] <cellofellow> why the heck aren't there widescreen framebuffer modes?
[17:05] <pq-tmp> I've already commented out vesafb from blacklist
[17:05] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, have you tried wicd?
[17:05] <bulmer> ummfft opera causing issues on firefox with a citrix client... lest I clean up opera's images directory, firefox access to citrix is dead.
[17:05] <cellofellow> It can do a 1280x1024x32 no sweat, but not a 1280x800x32?
[17:06] <cellofellow> now, I've heard nvidiafb doesn't play nice with the binary nvidia X11 drivers.
[17:06] <pq-tmp> same here, 16:10 resolutions doesn't work at all (unrecognized video mode or similar error)
[17:06] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Yay, I'm now connected through FON_DaZjorz
[17:06] <Leechzilla> Screen Resolution: 1920x1200 (32 bits)
[17:07] <fitztrev> What's the cp argument to accomplish this (or any other command)?   If the destination has a file that the source does not, it should be deleted.
[17:07] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: I didn't do anything special
[17:07] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, excellent :)
[17:07] <cellofellow> we need to loby Linus to add more fb modes or something.
[17:07] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, ?
[17:07] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, I'm more interested in what you did do :)
[17:07] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: Well it just worked, almost the same way as I worked before
[17:07] <dazjorz> Duke_Fluke: iwconfig ath0 mode managed key off
[17:08] <dazjorz> iwconfig ath0 essid FON_DaZjorz
[17:08] <dazjorz> and then it associated
[17:08] <wolfman2323> hi.. how could i install this  >>> ubuntu_glossy_orange_gdm.tar.gz
[17:08] <Duke_Fluke> dazjorz, ok well I'm happy you got it working
[17:08] <dazjorz> me too :)
[17:09] <csb0> nickrud, thanks. from just running /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade it doesn't seem like there's too many options you can give it. i think i'll stick it in a cron file and hope for the best.
[17:09] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, is that a new login window?
[17:10] <wolfman2323> yesh .. i think so..
[17:10] <wolfman2323> seren.. actually i just wanna have a new theme...
[17:10] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, goto System->Admin->Login Window..  click on local tab  you can see a list.. click Add button and browse
[17:10] <wolfman2323> seren.. im just 10 days old using ubuntu
[17:10] <wolfman2323> wait
[17:11] <Duke_Fluke> wolfman2323, wow you're the first baby i've known to use Ubuntu ;)
[17:11] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, gdm is usually for the login.. where you choose name and password..  if you want a desktop theme that is different
[17:11] <bader_> hello
[17:11] <serenityUK> welcome
[17:11] <wolfman2323> seren. i just did what uve said... brb
[17:12] <Duke_Fluke> bader_, howdy
[17:12] <wolfman2323> seren!.. it worked.. thanks!
[17:12] <wolfman2323> seren..how about themes???
[17:12] <bader_> I would like to ask....is it possible to read arabic of mirc? cuz it doesn't seem to work for me tried a couple of programs but nothing is working....could anyone recommend me one?
[17:12] <cellofellow> pq-tmp: maybe uvesafb will work
[17:12] <cellofellow> pq-tmp: just looking it up
[17:13] <serenityUK> wolfman2323,    ok if you want a new desktop goto   www.gnome-look.org and look at GTK themes for panels  and  Metacity themes for the title bars
[17:13] <pq-tmp> cellofellow uvesafb is said to work, but hasn't been included in the kernel provided with gutsy
[17:13] <cellofellow> :(
[17:13] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, you can do the titlebars seperately from the main panel themes in gnome
[17:13] <bader_> am using gusty btw
[17:13] <pq-tmp> cellofellow i cannot afford to patch and compile kernel
[17:13] <rich__> without using synaptic is there a way of searching for packages in the source list?
[17:14] <wolfman2323> seren.. so gtk. is for themes.. thanks!.. brb
[17:14] <bader_> hello could anyone help ???
[17:14] <cellofellow> neither can I. Is the slightly older vesa-tng available?
[17:14] <Duke_Fluke> bader_, as far as I know mirc is windows only
[17:14] <pq-tmp> vesa-tng is unstable, and the kernel has to be patched too
[17:14] <wolfman2323> seren : thanks..
[17:15] <cellofellow> :(
[17:15] <bader_> Duke_Fluke, yeab i've used xchat nd pidgin but they don't seem to work with arabic characters
[17:15] <_elemental> rich_ apt-get and aptitude (cli) both support tab completion and will show you packages that match your string
[17:15] <SoerenW> can ubuntu's installer resize ntfs-partitions?
[17:15] <cellofellow> nvidia may have the best-performing drivers, but their way too closed-source to be useful sometimes.
[17:15] <cellofellow> SoerenW: yes
[17:16] <babo> the cd/dvd creator in gnome. Will that burn iso's ?
[17:16] <babo> it just says write cd ?
[17:16] <rich__> elemental, using which switch?
[17:16] <bader_> Duke_Fluke, could u recommend me some other irc cliends that might work???
[17:16] <rich__> apt-get install tab doesnt work
[17:16] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, GTK2    1 is very old lol
[17:17] <_elemental> rich_ no switch needed sudo aptitued install foo <tab tab> will either complete the package name or give you a list of all possible matches
[17:17] <rich__> its just listing my PWD
[17:18] <jukilo> ddd
[17:18] <serenityUK> wolfman2323, when you want to install goto System->Prefs->Appearance and click install button
[17:19] <Duke_Fluke> bader_, check out this link http://www.eglug.org/book/export/html/564
[17:19] <ryanpg> hi all... getting ready to build a kernel for my laptop, checking lshw I find that I have both an ISA and an IDE controller, this laptop has SATA - do you think I need to build ISA and IDE support? or is that some artifact of the motherboard or controller that is unused
[17:19] <rich__> i think its apt-cache
[17:19] <vegpuff> hi, my live cd is getting hung
[17:19] <bader_> Duke_Fluke, thanks
[17:19] <vegpuff> i would like to install ubuntu via command mode
[17:19] <vegpuff> how do i do it
[17:19] <pepperjack> !alternate | vegpuff
[17:19] <Duke_Fluke> bader look at this part -->choose UTF-8 from the "Character set" dropmenu in order to type and view Arabic messages
[17:19] <genii> ryanpg: Since most sata controllers also have ide emulation for compatability mode, compiling it in is not a bad idea
[17:19] <vegpuff> pepperjack, ah should i download another iso?
[17:20] <pepperjack> vegpuff: yeah id grab the alternate install cd
[17:20] <pepperjack> vegpuff: its basically the old installer pre livecd
[17:20] <ubotu> vegpuff: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[17:20] <wolfman2323> seren..how about icons
[17:21] <rich__> does anyone know how to search for a package?
[17:21] <ryanpg> genii, really? hrm... I don't think I need "compatibility" since all the components are Intel or TI - what is "compatibility" with?
[17:21] <ryanpg> genii, I mean everything seems to be well supported and fully functional
[17:21] <lollo> !warcraft
[17:21] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:21] <lollo> GENNARO GATTUSO EEEEHEEEEEH OOOHOOOH
[17:22] <koko___> [rich__] , apt-cache search package
[17:22] <genii> ryanpg: When your sata controller does not have a native driver for instance, you use compatability mode to make it appear as a regular ide drive.
[17:22] <Gattuso> bella
[17:22]  * lollo applaude
[17:22] <rich__> yeah ive got it man, cheers anyway
[17:22] <ryanpg> genii, ahh... so in my case it probably isn't necessary to include IDE support
[17:22] <genii> ryanpg: When in doubt as to whether you need a certain function, compile it as a module. Then you can load it later if it turns out to be neccesary
[17:22] <Gattuso> mamma mia quanto parlano sti ubuntisti
[17:23] <ryanpg> what about ISA? is there a reason to compile kernel ISA support these days? I haven't seen an ISA bus in years?
[17:23] <Gattuso> qual'è il canale italiano??
[17:24] <koko___> !it
[17:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:24] <genii> ryanpg: ISA driver still needs to be compiled usually, since the plug and play detection system for things like souncards etc etc were originally written around them. Even if the new card for instanc e uses a pci slot
[17:25] <ryanpg> genii, lol, wow, ok well thanks very much for the info - I'm often surprised how much "legacy" there is in modern hardware
[17:25] <genii> ryanpg: np   As i said, when in doubt, compile as a module, etc
[17:25] <Sjimmie> QUESTION: What do you use for iPod syncing? (assuming you have an iPod and use ubuntu =))
[17:25] <Duke_Fluke> Sjimmie, amarok
[17:26] <Vegasmac> im dual booting into XP and Ubuntu and want to remove ubuntu and GRUB but last time I did this I was unable to boot into XP anymore and had to recover my system. How can I remove GRUB and Ubuntu without messing up my booting of windows?
[17:26] <Sjimmie> hmm, is that better then gtkpod? because I'm not happy with that Duke_Fluke
[17:26] <Duke_Fluke> Sjimmie, I used to use gtkpod too...amarok is WAYYYY better IMHO
[17:26] <Sjimmie> I'm gonna give it a go :)
[17:26] <ryanpg> genii, good advice, but being able to simply ignore ISA would speed up compile time and allow me to also ignore a ton of configuration options :)
[17:27] <Sjimmie> thanks Duke_Fluke :)
[17:27] <ryanpg> or IDE or whatever
[17:27] <Duke_Fluke> Sjimmie, np :)
[17:27] <RoBzZ> So, I have a ubuntu server what client can I use for windows that will allows me to run commands. Like the terminal server client, I guess.
[17:27] <genii> ryanpg: Yes, hand-configuration can be tedious :)
[17:27] <serenityUK> i heard the new Rhythmbox has a mozilla plugin to understand itms://  itunes links for podcasts in webpages
[17:28] <Duke_Fluke> RoBzZ, vnc
[17:28] <SexyJames1337> Ive just installed ubuntu, never used it before. Started it up for the first time and i got the error: Overfrequency: Please change display mode. what does that mean and how do i do that?
[17:28] <RoBzZ> Duke_Fluke: Thanks a lot buddy :D
[17:28] <WorkingOnWise> has anyone here compared google desktop to tracker?
[17:28] <FunnyLookinHat> Digg it!  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Hardy_Heron_Alpha_4_Released
[17:29] <genii> Vegasmac: The basic procedure is boot to Windows cd, repair mode. Then some commands like fixmbr.   For more info since this is not a Windows support channel, ask in ##windows
[17:29] <Otacon22> otacon22@ubuntu:~$ python
[17:29] <Otacon22> bash: /home/otacon22/bin/python: cannot execute binary file
[17:29] <Otacon22> what is this??????????
[17:29] <RoBzZ> Duke_Fluke: RealVNC?
[17:29] <Duke_Fluke> RoBzZ, that will work
[17:29] <RoBzZ> Ok cheers
[17:29] <WorkingOnWise> FunnyLookinHat: arrrggg I just installed alpha3!!!  Oh I gotta read those release schedules better!!!!
[17:29] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, which video card do you have?
[17:30] <genii> Otacon22: It means the file you are trying to tell python to run is not written in python, but is a binary executable
[17:30] <Otacon22> yes yes
[17:30] <Otacon22> excuse me
[17:30] <dissident> can someone help me please : i have to do ctrl-d every time i boot up, cause system says: fcheck died from error 8 (or so)
[17:30] <Otacon22> i'm so stupid
[17:30] <dissident> but then my intern sata is not mounted
[17:30] <Duke_Fluke> Otacon22, no you're not
[17:30] <Otacon22> thanks XD
[17:31] <amb1> is possible to install java EE if i' am only using alive cd
[17:31] <dissident> I guess it has something to do with that card
[17:31] <white_eagle> guys I'm installing ubuntu at a friend of mine and I want to know, should I use ext3 as the primary and ext2 for the root file system or reverse
[17:31] <amb1> i mean is it possible
[17:31] <white_eagle> ?
[17:31] <ompaul> amb1, yes, and you really don't want to unless you got huge bandwidth and massive ram it will kill your box
[17:32] <Flannel> amb1: Yes.  But you may run out of memory (since you most likely just have your RAM)
[17:32] <Vegasmac> genii: i figured it would be appropriate to ask here as well considering I'm trying to remove grub and ubuntu without screwing up my windows boot, thanks for the info.
[17:32] <csb0> is all the stuff in /etc/init.d/ run at boot time?
[17:32] <genii> Otacon22: Or since the python file you are trying to run is in your home dir it may not be set executable, or else you have the wrong location specified
[17:32] <serenityUK> white_eagle, just use ext3
[17:32] <Vegasmac> :)
[17:32] <xxBasYxx> Hi i have new Ageia PhysX card, is there any chance to work with my Ubuntu 64.bit? i can't find anything helpfull and Ageia has no support for Linux:(
[17:32] <white_eagle> serenityUK, how do you mean use ext3/
[17:32] <white_eagle> ?
[17:32] <white_eagle> ext 2 should not be used?
[17:32] <WorkingOnWise> white_eagle: imho, the only file system to use is either ext3 or reiser. the journals make things soooo much faster for fsck's
[17:32] <Jay955> being new to this i must be missing something..... i'm trying to setup ubunto as a file server where i can store files (pic mp3 and doc file) on it, in order to free up my other systems (xp)
[17:32] <Otacon22> genii, i solved: i have a bin folder in my home dir
[17:32] <amb1> oh ok tnx for the info
[17:33] <white_eagle> and where should I put the root file system??
[17:33] <genii> Vegasmac: No worries :) But they will definitely be able to assist more in the ##windows channel since it is all stuff that needs to be done from there of course
[17:33] <serenityUK> white_eagle, ext2 is older ext3 is better at recovering large partitions. I don't use ext2 anymore
[17:33] <white_eagle> ..
[17:33] <Rufus__> if I download a compiz plugin, how do I install it?
[17:33] <white_eagle> root = where?
[17:33] <saa1> can someone help me with getting compiz-fusion to work?
[17:33] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: I have an FX5200. its still loaded up ok, it just said that while it loaded with the ubuntu logo at the start. its now on the log in screen and displays fine, and the error has gone
[17:33] <Rufus__> saa1, whats wrong with it?
[17:33] <Jay955> my problem is that i can't access my secondary harddrive on ubunto
[17:34] <ctrader> white_eagle: install root as an ext3 partition
[17:34] <saa1> i have it installed and everything, and when i try to enable the desktop effects, it won't work
[17:34] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, oh so it was a monitor message?
[17:34] <Duke_Fluke> Jay955, how are you accessing it?
[17:34] <WorkingOnWise> white_eagle: put root on a partition....I don't understand what u mean by "where"
[17:34] <Rufus__> are the plugins installed?
[17:34] <white_eagle> ok
[17:34] <saa1> it says desktop effects could not be enabled
[17:35] <Duke_Fluke> Jay955, can you post 'sudo fdisk -l' output?
[17:35] <SexyJames1337> i think it was referring to the monitor. not sure if the monitor itself or ubuntu was giving the message. might have been the monitor. while it loaded it flickered and overlayed that message, and now it has disappeared and its displaying ok. but is it possible it would damage my monitor if i dont do something about it?
[17:35] <tokok> is it possible to use full 3D videocard capabilities in virtual machine?
[17:35] <Jay955> i tryed throw my xp network or map but nothing
[17:35] <Jay955> i see both drives on utunto
[17:36] <chris710> hi,is there anyone to help me to configurate compiz and/or emerald with xfce?
[17:36] <Duke_Fluke> Jay955, So ubuntu sees the drive but you cannot mount it?
[17:36] <white_eagle> and now, I have one "Linux" partition as ext3 40 gigs, I have an ext3 "root" partition 2150 MB and I have Linux Swap 300 MB, is that ok?
[17:36] <saa1> (11:35:24 AM) SexyJames1337: i think it was referring to the monitor. not sure if the monitor itself or ubuntu was giving the message. might have been the monitor. while it loaded it flickered and overlayed that message, and now it has disappeared and its displaying ok. but is it possible it would damage my monitor if i dont do something about it? ----- it
[17:36] <ctrader> anyone know how I can recover an LVM?  I had LVM setup across two drives.  I mistakenly reinstalled ubuntu on the first drive of the LVM.  Will I be able to get any information off of the second drive of the LVM?
[17:36] <saa1> *it is an entirely new computer
[17:36] <kevin__> does anyone know how i can get the pixel shaders working on my geforce 4 ti4600 in ubuntu? i have the nvidia glx driver installed and basic 3d works fine
[17:36] <white_eagle> ...
[17:36] <saa1> it's a laptop, actually
[17:36] <Jay955> i have it mounted no problem i created folders to use
[17:37] <Rufus__> how can I use the compiz switcher function?
[17:37] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, It sounds like it was built into the monitor... you can disable the logo by editing a text file... also you might want to install the nvida drivers for smooth video playback or 3D stuff like compix-fusion
[17:37] <neverblue> !flash
[17:37] <Jay955> i just can't see them on the xp side
[17:37] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[17:37] <white_eagle> !flashissues | neverblue
[17:37] <ubotu> neverblue: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:37] <pfarshim> hi
[17:37] <babo> so if my iso has burned successfully, then when i click on it, i should just see a .iso file and not the setup.exe files etc... right ?
[17:37] <rajasun> chris710: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[17:37] <danand> Jay955 - are you trying to set up your ubuntu box as a file server for windows??
[17:38] <Jay955> yes
[17:38] <white_eagle> and now, I have one "Linux" partition as ext3 40 gigs, I have an ext3 "root" partition 2150 MB and I have Linux Swap 300 MB, is that ok?
[17:38] <serenityUK> white_eagle, root is too small at 2gb    ... 5+
[17:38] <white_eagle> ???
[17:38] <chris710> rajasun>thank you
[17:38] <white_eagle> ok?
[17:38] <pfarshim> is there a way to monitor which programme is accessing my hard drive?
[17:38] <NOob> Yay
[17:38] <NOob> Finally!
[17:38] <rajasun> chris710: np
[17:38] <NOob> Hi people
[17:38] <ctrader> !LVM
[17:38] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[17:38] <babo> thing is though, I used cdrecord to make the iso .. cdrecord -v dev=4,0,0 Win*.iso
[17:38] <NOob> HI people I'm new!
[17:38] <danand> Jay955 - ok have you tried to set up a samba server on your ubuntu box?
[17:38] <serenityUK> white_eagle, I have 10gb for programs and stuff because root is also used for tmp files and things you will need atleast 5
[17:38] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ive started it up and its all going ok. it tells me theres restricted drivers available, should i download them?
[17:38] <babo> anyone ?
[17:38] <Jay955> yes i have
[17:39] <WorkingOnWise> white_eagle: it this going to be your primary OS?
[17:39] <NOob> First time on IRC since the game called ARC
[17:39] <white_eagle> WorkingOnWise, no
[17:39] <danand> Jay955 - do you have a firewall running on ubuntu
[17:39] <NOob> Hi people
[17:39] <NOob> I'm downloading the ununtu iso
[17:39] <NOob> ubuntu
[17:39] <NOob> Is it a live cd as well as normal installation cd?
[17:40] <Jay955> from ubunto i can see both my xp computer browse and dump file but not the other way
[17:40] <Jay955> i'm not sure i just installed it
[17:40] <Jay955> how can i check
[17:40] <danand> NOob - Yes
[17:40] <ctrader> Can I recover anything from the second drive of an LVM if I reformatted the first drive?
[17:40] <NOob> Thanks!
[17:40] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, yes enable restricted drivers and reboot,  then you can use the nvidia control panel to set up the screen/brightness etc...   type  sudo nvidia-settings once you have installed/rebooted  and  press the button to save to  xorg.conf once you are happy with the screen mode
[17:40] <esc> hi, i tried to enable eye candy , and it says it can't do it
[17:40] <csb0> how do i see what is run at boot time on my ubuntu gutsy box?
[17:40] <esc> what can i try to make it work
[17:40] <pepperjack> esc: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf   what does it say?
[17:40] <esc> radeon mobility x700, gutsy
[17:41] <esc> using the radeon driver
[17:41] <NOob> I have only about 4 gigs free space will I be able to run ununtu as live cd? I heard it is bad to live cd because I wont be able to save anything, how much space do I need to actually install the thing?
[17:41] <pepperjack> esc: oh sorry i wont be any help with ati
[17:41] <esc> apparently radeon has support for 3D etc..
[17:41] <WorkingOnWise> white_eagle: what do u plan on doing with the 40gig partition? if it were my box and I were giving that much space to a secondary OS, I would give root maybe 20, the "Linux" partition 20, and the rest to swap. I know it sounds heavy on swap. but I have actually used over 1gb of swap on here...better safe that sorry.
[17:42] <esc> pepperjack: any idea where i could go to find out?
[17:42] <white_eagle> WorkingOnWise, nevermind :)
[17:42] <danand> Jay955 - ok, did you edit your /etc/samba/samba.conf file and update the samba password data base??
[17:42] <siddhant> NOob : yes you can run the live cd. and to install it, u need 4gb. (or 2 maybe, dont remember the exact figure)
[17:42] <NOob> Oh thank you
[17:42] <white_eagle> root 20?????
[17:42] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ok. does flash not work at the moment with firefox then, is it still broken like the title says?
[17:42] <ASTX813> When you enable remote desktop using the "Remote Desktop Preferences" app, what exactly does that do behind the scenes?  I'd like to enable it on a headless machine, but it's a catch-22
[17:42] <white_eagle> WorkingOnWise, why 20 gigs on root?
[17:42] <NOob> So ubuntu will give me the whole linux system? Does it have firefox and nmap and perl and all those cool things that linux advertises that made me ditch windows?
[17:43] <esc> NOob: yes
[17:43] <Jay955> i have been in the samba file but update what passwords
[17:43] <pepperjack> esc: id assume you will need the binary driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:43] <white_eagle> WorkingOnWise, ...
[17:43] <Jay955> on the xp side i use no passwords
[17:43] <WorkingOnWise> white_eagle: I have 15 used on root..I dont delete anything in the apt cache....and I soooooo hate to run out of space on root. it isnt pretty
[17:43] <LordOfThePigs> does anybody know where sun-java6-doc installs the javadocs? I can't find them...
[17:44] <NOob> I heard that linux is much better for hacking that any other system, is that so?
[17:44] <esc> NOob: no
[17:44] <XLV> NOob, its better in phacking, not hacking
[17:44] <NOob> phacking?
[17:44] <esc> if you wanna hack, get QNX
[17:45] <WorkingOnWise> I hacked my pc once...
[17:45] <NOob> will I be able to get admin roots with a click of a mouse with qnx?
[17:45] <ryanpg> err... building a kernel for my laptop, my proc is: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU - should I choose "Core 2/newer Xeon" for my Processor Family?
[17:45] <WorkingOnWise> darn thing burst into flames on me!!!
[17:45] <danand> Jay955 - this may be your problem (we hope ;)) - after samba is installed you need to edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf file - then (and this is the bit I overlooked first time :) ) you need to update the samba password file
[17:45] <LordOfThePigs> Where are documentations usually stored?
[17:46] <WorkingOnWise> the hatchet blade musta hit the powersupply
[17:46] <LordOfThePigs> I guess this is where the sun-java6-doc package installed my javadocs
 how would i update that file
[17:46] <ompaul> NOob, you know something, that question is not making sense, on many levels
[17:46] <NOob> I know
[17:46] <NOob> First of all you cant use  a mouse with qnx
[17:47] <XLV> Jay955, smbpasswd -a <user_name> of the user you want to log into samba of ubuntu, thats why its better to use passwords on samba shares even in windows
[17:47] <danand> Jay955 - do this in a terminal with the command - sudo smbpasswd -a [username] - this will prompt you to enter a password for the user
[17:47] <ompaul> NOob, were you aware this is the #ubuntu support channel and not #ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:47] <jpatrick> !piracy > NOob
[17:47] <ASTX813> is there a command line to open the "Remote Desktop Preferences" gui?
[17:47] <jpatrick> !o4o > NOob
[17:47] <NOob> No, I'm new to IRC
 ok brb
[17:48] <jpatrick> !guidelines > NOob
[17:48] <NOob> What?
[17:48] <danand> Jay955, XLV - I need to type quicker - look at man smbpasswd for more help if need be!
[17:48] <NOob> !guidelines
[17:48] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:48] <NOob> that didnt work
[17:48] <XLV> Jay955, i disable simple filesharing in windows always.. add a limited user to windows with which i use to allow others to log in to windows smb shares, add that user with same password to samba passwd file
[17:48] <ompaul> NOob, read the materials sent to you by the bot and do not echo the commands in the channel thanks
[17:48] <NOob> Oh I see
[17:48] <NOob> How do I join the offtopic pllace
[17:48] <jpatrick> NOob: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:49] <chimx> ubotu: you know everybody here volunteering are just bored at work and are killing time on irc...
[17:49] <StLemur> Hi, yesterday I was in with a problem: I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.24 to overcome a bug with BitTorrent and had no sound. The solution turned out to be: when setting up 2.6.24, you have to enable Intel HD sound in the .config.
[17:49] <kergoth> Anyone here manage to get flash 9 working with libflashsupport & pulseaudio?  I see it connect to pa momentarily in paman, but it immediately disconnects and proceeds to try using alsa
[17:49] <NOob> #offtopic
[17:49] <NOob> join offtopic
[17:49] <WorkingOnWise> lol
[17:49] <NOob> join #offtopic
[17:49] <danand> :)
[17:50] <NOob> How?
[17:50] <ompaul> NOob,      >>         /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:50] <WorkingOnWise> n0u: u need the "/"
[17:50] <NOob> oh ok
[17:50] <NOob> thx
[17:50] <redmonkey> hey c'mon, stop laughting.. it's his first time
[17:51] <MauS> Hi ^-^
[17:51] <Tasche_> Hi
[17:51] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone using dual monitors with an ATI card?  Could I see your xorg.conf file, or PM you?  Having trouble here and I've tried following numerous tutorials.
[17:51] <redmonkey> hi MauS, hi Tasche_
 ok getting closer :))
[17:52] <MauS> Is it possible to make all keyboards to be automatically enabled? When i connect second keyboard, it won't work :(
[17:52] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, sorry i am runner 64bit flash is different to normal 32bit...    i believe them flash problem was only the official driver there is some work around
[17:52] <MauS> I'm under KDE
[17:52] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi can someone help me get my machine to print pdfs? I have followed the online instructions I've found but it's still not working
[17:52] <danand> Jay955 - Fingers crossed :D
[17:52] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337  |  !flashissues
 i have logged on the server but now i can't get to the folder i picked
[17:53] <MauS> I know that there's a way to manually edit X11's config to let two keyboards work, but i'd like them to start working right after i plug them in
[17:53] <danand> Jay955 - Ok so you've logged into your ubuntu machine from windows??
[17:53] <serenityUK> !flashissues
[17:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:53] <Jay955> yes i have i see the folder i'm trying to get at
[17:54] <XBehave> how can i get latex into kword or OO
[17:54] <MauS> OMG my second keyboard is not connected :lame:
[17:54] <BronxAngel> for the love of God! please somebody tell me of a good gui for sqlite3 databases!
[17:54] <XLV> MauS, now theres an idea, instead of those dvorak style kbs, one could learn to type with both hands on different kbs altogether
 but when i click on the folder it telss me access denied
[17:55] <danand> Jay955 - did you set up your /etc/samba/smb.conf to allow access to that folder for the user you are logged in as??
[17:55] <chris710> how can i install desklets with gdesklets on compiz?
 i'm not sure where would i find it in the file
[17:56] <XBehave> i can get stuff out of a maths program in mathML or latex how can i get into an OO document?
[17:57] <danand> Jay955 - would you like me to pastebin my smb.conf file??
[17:57] <Jay955> sure that may help
[17:58] <BronxAngel> nobody?
[17:58] <danand> Jay955 - Give me 5mins - I'm a little slow!! - what is the pastebin for ubuntu?
[17:58] <XLV> !pastebin
[17:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:58] <pine> BronxAngel, u dont like mysql ?
[17:58] <danand> XLV - Cheers
[18:00] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi can someone help me get my machine to print pdfs? I have followed the online instructions I've found but it's still not working
[18:00] <Rufus_> i've downloaded compiz through the ubuntu repository, how can I activate the wobbly windows and the screen switcher?
[18:00] <BronxAngel> pine: i make love to mysql everyday several times a day. that is my woman. but xbmc uses sqlite. don't worry, mysql already knows i am working with sqlite
[18:00] <crdlb> Rufus_: please join #compiz-fusion
[18:01] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: It tells me there are 185 updates available... should i install them all? :|
[18:01] <savvas> !flashissues
[18:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:02] <danand> Jay955 - Ok, this file works for me. See - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54364/
[18:02] <siddhant> crap. i did a sudo apt-get clean. :( can i recover those packages?
[18:02] <csb0> how do i make sure a particular program runs at boot time? in this case: svnserve.
 ok brb
[18:03] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, yes  there are only a few a week but it has been out since october lol... new Ubuntu is out in April and you can upgrade using the same way and keep ur settings
[18:03] <BronxAngel> pine and for everyone else: sqlite3 under wine looks promosing
[18:03] <cmna> Graphics problem.  Using integrated Intel 915 chipset and KDS Avitron AV-195TF.  XWindows used to operate successfully by default in 1600x1200.  This randomly stopped working and I have been unable to get it working again in anything but 640x480 or 800x600 even with a reinstall.  Usplash screen does still display successfully in 1600x1200 as indicated in usplash.conf.  I have tried manually editing xorg.conf and all online fixes
[18:03] <cmna> to no avail.
[18:03] <csb0> and a related question: if i check with sysvconfig, i don't see anything about iptables loading at boot. is that because iptables is some weird kernel stuff?
[18:03] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, they release a new version every 6 months
[18:04] <danand> siddhant - apt-get clean only clears apts cache - it does not wipe any packages from your system
[18:04] <cmna> This is Ubuntu 7.10
[18:04] <QuickGold> Can someone recommend a good web browser besides Firefox for Ubuntu?
[18:04] <siddhant> danand : i meant that only. i need those .deb files back, if possible
[18:04] <ConstyXIV> does anyone know where I could find a Win2K-like GTK engine?
[18:04] <serenityUK> QuickGold, I use Flock.. it is based on firefox underneath but has a nice new interface and integration with sites like youtube and flickr
[18:05] <danand> siddhant - you may need to download them again :(
[18:05] <BronxAngel> every time i install gutsy i have to update 185 packages. is there a way to make a cd with the update in it?
[18:05] <MauS> Can anyone help me? I've got Kubuntu 7.10 installed on a separate machine. 'sudo route' shows no routes! Why can this be?
[18:05] <QuickGold> serenityUK: Thanks. I'd prefer a web browser not based on the Gecko engine (want to test sites)
[18:05] <siddhant> danand : i have this stupid download limit. :( btw thanx for ur time. :)
[18:06] <BronxAngel> ikonia: you here?
[18:06] <danand> siddhant - are they not on the CD?
[18:06] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> I just booted up my ubuntu system after a power loss which apparently outlasted my UPS and now X is complaining that it can't start due to some "internal error"... i cant press ok, but I can switch to another tty....any ideas?
[18:06] <QuickGold> Can someone recommend a good web browser besides Firefox for Ubuntu?
[18:07] <siddhant> danand - no, i guess.
[18:07] <genii> QuickGold: If text mode counts, Links
[18:07] <QuickGold> genii: Preferably, not Links
[18:07] <serenityUK> QuickGold, the new version of Ephinany has option of choosing WebKit backend instead of Gecko but still beta ready next month i think... If you install Konqueror it has it's own thing but you will need lots of KDE libraries.... also Opera works under Linux
[18:07] <QuickGold> I'm looking for a non-Gecko engine based web browser
[18:07] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: reconfig x in terminal byt going to ctrl+alt+F1
[18:07] <cellofellow> QuickGold: Galeon and Epiphany are both web browsers designed just for GNOME, but both use Mozilla's Gecko rendering engine so pages look exactly the same as Firefox.
[18:08] <danand> Oni-Dracula-  cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[18:08] <bruenig> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:08] <XBehave> QuickGold: theres Opera i think or konqueror
[18:08] <QuickGold> serenityUK: is there a how to to make Epiphany use WebKit backend?
[18:08] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: Thanks for your time, im off for dinner now. I may be back in a bit :P
[18:08] <QuickGold> XBehave: Gnome only
[18:08] <danand> Oni-Dracula|lapp - cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE should show you any errors
[18:08] <cellofellow> QuickGold: Opera and Konqueror both like KDE better than Gnome, but they work.
[18:08] <genii> QuickGold: You might get some ideas here http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm/en/lin_browser.html
[18:08] <BronxAngel> so there is no way to install gutsy with all the updates post first boot?
[18:08] <bruenig> QuickGold, would have to recompile for sure
[18:08] <XBehave> QuickGold: theres also IEs4linux that can be used to test IE
[18:08] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, gl,  check out ubuntuforums.org for help   the absolute beginner section is gret
[18:08] <bruenig> QuickGold, if it is at possible to begin with
[18:09] <QuickGold> thanks for the help
[18:09] <XBehave> Opera and Konqeror are qt based but there shouldnt be any problems running them in gnome the same way that firefox (GTK) runs fine in kde
[18:09] <QuickGold> XBehave: thanks!
[18:09] <cellofellow> WebKit on Linux is still a bit new. Only Konqueror 4 uses it afaik.
[18:10] <QuickGold> Konqueror works on Gnome?
[18:10] <tyrone> hi i am running ubuntu 7.10 nad my sound has always worked fine but suddenly today it stopped working i don't know why I dual-boot with vista and it works fie there
[18:10] <mavi-> the gnome browser has a webkit backend now
[18:10] <XBehave> its new if you dont count the blatent theft of it from kde in the 1st place :P
[18:10] <ConstyXIV> cellofellow, and midori, and the new epiphany
[18:10] <QuickGold> heh
[18:10] <serenityUK> cellofellow, I was reading on Phronix today about gnome 2.22  new version of Epiphany will have the option
[18:10] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, the reconfigure script hard locked
[18:10] <serenityUK> cellofellow, at the moment you need a compile flag but should be ready soon
[18:10] <cellofellow> ok, cool. WebKit is a good engine, though I still prefer Gecko.
[18:11] <ConstyXIV> i'd <3 to have a fully-working webkit-based GTK browser right now
[18:11] <babo> so if my iso has burned successfully, then when i click on it, i should just see a .iso file and not the setup.exe files etc... right ?
[18:11] <babo> thing is though, I used cdrecord to make the iso .. cdrecord -v dev=4,0,0 Win*.iso
[18:11] <cellofellow> It'd be nice for development testing.
[18:11] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: has x started and you see that error? or is that from a terminal stout?
[18:11] <tyrone> hi i am running ubuntu 7.10 nad my sound has always worked fine but suddenly today it stopped working i don't know why I dual-boot with vista and it works fie there. Can anyone help me please?
[18:11] <cmna> Any idea why Usplash has no problem running in 1600x1200 but I can't get XWindows to run in anything but 640x480?
[18:12] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, danand, the log shows no errors... the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" froze on the question on autodetecting video... no input gives and response
[18:12] <HorizonXP> hey, my sudo command just stopped working
[18:12] <TWP-SirStaal> Yo
[18:12] <cellofellow> cmna: they use different drivers, so one doesn't guarentee the other. Leave the framebuffer alone and configure XOrg.
[18:12] <HorizonXP> like if I type sudo apt-get .... it just returns nothing, back to the command prompt
[18:12] <HorizonXP> any help?
[18:12] <TWP-SirStaal> I am trying to get youtube to work but which plug-in should I use?
[18:13] <danand> Oni-Dracula|lapp - :( ??
[18:13] <jpatrick> !flash > TWP-SirStaal
[18:13] <XBehave> cmma Uspalsh uses frambuffer so is unreated check your xorg.conf
[18:13] <cellofellow> HorizonXP: what about `sudo echo I am root`?
[18:13] <TWP-SirStaal> I know flash but which flash is compatible with ubunto?
[18:13] <XBehave> cmna Uspalsh uses frambuffer so is unreated check your xorg.conf
[18:13] <jpatrick> !info flashplugin-nonfree | TWP-SirStaal
[18:13] <ubotu> twp-sirstaal: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:13] <cmna> Can I make X use framebuffer to fix this problem?
[18:13] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, danand, the (near) exact error is "Could not start the X server (your graphical environment) due to some internal error.  please contact your system administrator or check your syslog to diagnose in the mean time this display will be disabled.  please restart gdm when the problem is corrected"
[18:14] <BronxAngel> oni did you put sudo before dpkg-reconfig?
[18:14] <XBehave> TWP-SirStaal: the way i got it working was a manual install of flash9
[18:14] <HorizonXP> cellofellow: it says i'm not in the sudoers file
[18:14] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, i did use sudo
[18:14] <cellofellow> cmna: yes, actually, but it's not recommended.
 ok i took a look at it and i have the same thing
[18:14] <XBehave> jpatrick: last time i cheked the package didnt work
[18:14] <jpatrick> XBehave: yep
[18:14] <Rufus_> i have 4 desktops, but I can't switch between them
[18:14] <Rufus_> why not?
[18:14] <cellofellow> HorizonXP: you have to add your user to the 'admin' group. Use recovery mode and then run 'adduser yourname admin' and reboot, you'll be good.
[18:14] <TWP-SirStaal> i will try it out thanks guys.
[18:15] <HorizonXP> cellofellow: yeah, i was messing with gropus, must've messed it up somehow
[18:15] <Jay955> brb will try something
[18:15] <danand> Jay955 - Is the folder you are trying to access "owned" by the user you logged in as??
[18:15] <HorizonXP> thanks
[18:15] <jpatrick> TWP-SirStaal: did you see the private message from ubotu?
[18:15] <BronxAngel> ok, try this! use the live cd to get gnome started, then mount your root partition to /mnt
[18:15] <Jay955> let me check
[18:15] <tyrone> hi i am running ubuntu 7.10 nad my sound has always worked fine but suddenly today it stopped working i don't know why I dual-boot with vista and it works fie there. Can anyone help me please?
[18:15] <TWP-SirStaal> ok cheking it out I will be back if there is another problem
[18:16] <cmna> cellofellow:  what is the alternate solution?  I have been unable to get X to work in any other resolution, either by using the configuration tools or by manually editing xorg.conf.
[18:16] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: ok, try this! use the live cd to get gnome started, then mount your root partition to /mnt. then chroot into /mnt and ren dpkg-reconfig
[18:16] <XBehave> does FB use less resources/ is safer than X?
[18:16] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: i meant run*
[18:16] <cellofellow> cmna: there is an xfb (or something like that) driver that runs the X server in the framebuffer. Say amen to any accelreation though.
[18:16] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: i was able to fix my boot like that a few days ago
[18:16] <cellofellow> XBehave: it does use less resources.
[18:17] <R_Rios> Hi, folks
[18:17] <cr> hola
 the owner of the folders is jay and i'm logged in under pierre
[18:17] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, ill give dat a try
[18:17] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: the command to chroot it "sudo chroot /mnt"
[18:17] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[18:17] <cr> algun weon que hable  en español?
[18:17] <XBehave> !es
[18:17] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:17] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: you will be working on your actual install not the cd when you do that.
[18:17] <R_Rios> cr,, português serve?
[18:17] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, too bad i only have a 7.04 disc and I'm running 7.10... think that will screw anything up?
[18:17] <cmna> cellofellow: well, it may be good enough for now.  I'm mostly running just as a server
[18:18] <R_Rios> FuriousGeorge, hi
[18:18] <serenityUK> !pt
[18:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:18] <cmna> cellofellow: thanks for the help
[18:18] <cr> me sirve el portuñol...
[18:18] <BronxAngel> 7.04? do they have a live cd?
[18:18] <cellofellow> cmna: ok. It's one of the xorg.conf drivers.
[18:18] <FuriousGeorge> i use linux (usually gentoo) as a server and my home desktop.  im installing a point of sales system for a client, which supports linux and im naturally gonna go with *buntu
[18:18] <FuriousGeorge> but it needs to print to a network printer
[18:18] <FuriousGeorge> i have no experience with this in linux
[18:18] <BronxAngel> y would anyone stay at 7.04? is gutsy buggy?
[18:18] <FuriousGeorge> i should worry about which printer i buy, right?
[18:19] <R_Rios> cr, d'you speak english?
[18:19] <cellofellow> cmna: if you want to run an X program on a headless server, there is a "fake" X server that I can't remember at the moment, has the letters x, f, and b in it though.
[18:19] <XBehave> network printers should work fine with linux,
[18:19] <R_Rios> FuriousGeorge, prefer HP ones
[18:19] <FuriousGeorge> XBehave: ANY network printer
[18:19] <danand> Jay955 - that would be the problem! You can make your folder 'browse-able' but i wouldn't recommend - when you 'map network drive' in windows enter the username and password of the users folder you are trying to access in ubuntu
[18:19] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> BronxAngel, i have pressed canonical versions... I upgraded using update-manager to 7.10
[18:19] <cr> speak?
[18:19] <FuriousGeorge> R_Rios: thought so
[18:19] <wakaw> !ping
[18:19] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[18:19] <DJboenQ> yap, try HP
[18:19] <xxBasYxx> Hi i have new Ageia PhysX card, is there any chance to work with my Ubuntu 64.bit? i can't find anything helpfull and Ageia has no support for Linux:(
[18:19] <R_Rios> FuriousGeorge, HPs work perfectly in *buntu
[18:19] <NOob> join ubuntu offtopic
[18:20] <NOob> is this right?
[18:20] <serenityUK> !pt  | cr
[18:20] <ubotu> cr: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:20] <R_Rios> Recent HPs
[18:20] <XBehave> xxBasYxx: i doubt it 64 has worse support for most stuff than 32
[18:20] <jpatrick> NOob: type: "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[18:20] <NOob> than ks
[18:20] <R_Rios> ubotu, OK, I've seen that...
[18:20] <Jay955> ok brb
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> xxBasYxx: is that some sort of 'math co-processor', im just guessing but drivers might be tough
[18:20] <NOob> it doesnt work
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> xxBasYxx: would that work in a chrooted 32-bit linux?
[18:20] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> FuriousGeorge, it's a physics card for gaming....
[18:21] <XLV> xxBasYxx, since there are hardly any games in windows using it, you expect linux support?
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> Oni-Dracula|lapp: sounds cool
[18:21] <serenityUK> NOob, it opens another window
[18:21] <xxBasYxx> XLV yes
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> maybe
[18:21] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> FuriousGeorge, it is... and actually math coprocessor is a good word for it
[18:21] <NOob> it didnt open
[18:21] <NOob> maybe because Im banned?
[18:21] <BronxAngel> Oni-Dracula|lapp: oh, so you are on gutsy but do not have a gutsy cd. cool. btw i am a noob
[18:21] <danand> NOob - did you try that command without the quotes?
[18:21] <xxBasYxx> XLV how to get driver or install
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> Oni-Dracula|lapp: funny how things go full circle sometimes
[18:21] <serenityUK> NOob, what program are you using?
[18:21] <NOob> yes
[18:21] <NOob> mIRC
[18:21] <NOob> It worked before
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> Oni-Dracula|lapp: all these terminal/thin systems around remind me of a time before my time
[18:21] <NOob> Maybe I'm banned from there?
[18:22] <Pici> NOob is banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, he wont be able to get in.
[18:22] <NOob> oh
[18:22] <NOob> How do I get unbanned
[18:22] <iambernie> Anybody encountered such flash problems as in this picture? http://home.planet.nl/~plau/flashproblems1.jpg   (Frames overlapping)
[18:22] <serenityUK> NOob, if you goto the first window the server messages should say any errors
[18:22] <dennis_> Hi i got a small problem i need to modifiy DTST tables ..i got a file which supposed to have the modified DTST. Only i did a insert and voila need to do a reinstall of ubuntu. Can somebody tellme how to modify DTST?
[18:22] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> thanks everyone
[18:23] <BronxAngel> iambernie: are you using the evil gnash or demonic flash-free-plugin?
[18:23] <betatest20> NVidia PowerMizer always goes to maximum default frequencys. It says Performance Mode:Desktop and Power Source: AC, how do I get the powersaving to work?
[18:23] <Rufus_> what is a good desktop camera? like hypercam for windows
[18:24] <iambernie> BronxAngel, flash. I got it here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?Lang=Dutch&P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[18:24] <XLV> xxBasYxx, theres no driver, and no game in linux that uses it
[18:24] <BronxAngel> iambernie: they both suck "donkey". give me the original url
[18:24] <XLV> NOob, did you go way offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:25] <iambernie> BronxAngel: The original url of...?
[18:25] <BronxAngel> iambernie: where the flash page with the issue is. i wanna see if i get it too
[18:26] <Rufus_> does anyone know one?
[18:26] <iambernie> BronxAngel: sorry yes of course:  http://www.pathe.nl
[18:26] <NOob> mand without the quotes?
 XLV how to get driver or install
 Oni-Dracula|lapp: funny how things go full circle sometimes
 NOob, what pr
[18:26] <BronxAngel> guys, i have about 8 computers i need to install gutsy on. all with the same packages and updates. what is hte fastest way to go about it
[18:27] <NOob> oops
[18:27] <NOob> Linux != Windows
[18:27] <jpatrick> NOob: we know that
[18:27] <tyrone> hi i am running ubuntu 7.10 nad my sound has always worked fine but suddenly today it stopped working i don't know why I dual-boot with vista and it works fie there. Can anyone help me please?
[18:28] <serenityUK> Rufus_, I have not tried but I have heard of recordmydesktop http://ubuntuchocolate.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/howto-screen-capture-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[18:28] <Rufus_> im on gutsy
[18:28] <danand> Jay955 - Got to go - hope you got sorted :) with samba!
[18:28] <serenityUK> Rufus_, yes it was written in september amoth before gutsy
[18:28] <Rufus_> ok
[18:28] <Unxuxu> Hi... I had installed some TrueType fonts, and used fc-cache to update the system... but now... I cant open my firefox...
[18:28] <Unxuxu> (gecko:10238): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Arial 12'
[18:28] <Unxuxu> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:29] <jpatrick> !paste > Unxuxu
[18:29] <Unxuxu> sorry
[18:29] <Unxuxu> sorry
[18:29] <BronxAngel> iambernie: i get the same issue. could be bad actionscriot programming
[18:29] <Unxuxu> I forgot about that
[18:29] <blergh> hmm, when mounting by label, should the fstab still relatively equal the mtab?  my mtab isn't showing the labels as mountpoints, rather the physical drive location
[18:29] <iambernie> BronxAngel: Thanks m8, in that case I'm probably not going to spend more effort solving it.
[18:30] <BronxAngel> so nobody has install ubuntu in a lab?
[18:31] <FunnyLookinHat> Digg it!  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Hardy_Heron_Alpha_4_Released
[18:32] <zombie_monkey> guys, is it possible that a bios form 2003 has the 1024 cylinder problem? I hve installed both arch and then ubuntu but when I pick them from the boot menu I only get a blinking cursor in the top left corner
[18:32] <dennis_> How can you modify DTST?
[18:33] <soundray> zombie_monkey: I wouldn't say it's impossible, but your fault description doesn't indicate that the cylinder boundary is the issue
[18:33] <soundray> dennis_: do you mean DSDT?
[18:33] <Pici> FunnyLookinHat: Please don't do that.
[18:33] <jevangelo> is there a soulseek client for ubuntu?
[18:34] <zombie_monkey> soundray: well what I did was install them in a partition at the end and then I dded the first 512 bytes, put them in the C:\ directory of XP and added the line C:\linux.bin="LInux" to boot.ini
[18:34] <jevangelo> im searching for murmur and museekd in synaptic package manager and cant find anything
[18:34] <serenityUK> BronxAngel, this tutorial is a bit old but I hope it sets you on the right track http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[18:35] <soundray> zombie_monkey: I guess if you just let grub take over your MBR, you'd be fine
 still not working i will take a look later thanks for your help
[18:35] <HarleY_> Does anyone know if the bnx2 kernel module supports the Broadcom 5751 or only the 5708 in Dapper 6.06.2
[18:35] <zombie_monkey> soundray: yeah, I looked for BIOS upgrades but none of them seem to aderess the 1024 issue, so maybe that's not the problem
[18:36] <soundray> !info museekd | jevangelo
[18:36] <ubotu> jevangelo: museekd (source: museek+): Client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer network (server daemon). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.12+svn.20070430.r667-1 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[18:37] <soundray> jevangelo: ^^ museekd is in universe. Don't know about murmur
[18:37] <betatest20> jevangelo: murmur is the server part of mumble, try that
[18:37] <xybre> I install the flash-nonfree package and when I go to a flash page in firefox it tells me I still need flash.
[18:37] <Pici> !flashissue | xybre
[18:37] <Gibb> How do I clear network settings dealing with WPA passwords and wifi access points? I made a setting for wifi and now its not booting properly
[18:37] <ubotu> xybre: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:38] <Unxuxu> Hi... I had installed some TrueType fonts, and used fc-cache to update the system... but now... I cant open my firefox...  shows me an error about arial 12... but I dont have changed this font...
[18:38] <soundray> Gibb: be a bit more specific about the boot problem please
[18:38] <BronxAngel> serenityUK: ok, thanks. i was thinking more like creatig an answer file and making my  own cd
[18:38] <xybre> Jeez, I've been trying off and on to find a solution for a week. Google fails at finding stuf liek this.
[18:39] <dennis_> soundray : Yes srry i found a file on google i'm reading now ...think this can work
[18:39] <Gibb> soundray: its happened twice with two different installs - right after I make changes to the wifi setup, it hangs on cupsd on startup. If I remove the printer service, it hangs up after I login with no error
[18:39] <kenan> for some reason my version of libc6 is 2.7 when it should be 2.6, this is causing a lot of problems for me, is there a way i can downgrade the version without it removing all the programs that depends on libc6?
[18:40] <shadowh511> u can't
[18:40] <soundray> Gibb: how long have you waited for it to time out on the hang?
[18:40] <kenan> how come this version is installed on my system and not 2.6
[18:40] <serenityUK> kenan, you can downgrade but it will affect the programs
[18:40] <Gibb> soundray: bout an hour or two
[18:40] <Micro> Is there a network install disk for Ubuntu 7.10?
[18:40] <kenan> why would ubuntu install this version?
[18:40] <soundray> Gibb: ok, that's sufficient...
[18:41] <soundray> Gibb: but recovery mode still  works?
[18:41] <Gibb> soundray: I bet I can fix it if I can wipe the network changes I made. I got the live cd booted, what do I delete to get rid of those changes?
[18:41] <Gibb> I didnt try recovery because im a command line newb
[18:41] <Rufus_> how can I search for direcotrys?
[18:41] <serenityUK> kenan, did you install it as a .deb file separately to make something work?  I did that before
[18:41] <soundray> Gibb: remove 'auto wlan0' (or other interface name) from /etc/network/interfaces
[18:42] <kenan> serenityUK: i might have =(
[18:42] <soundray> !install > Micro, please read the private message from ubotu
[18:42] <Gibb> soundray: awesome! is it a file?
[18:42] <tyrone> hi i am running ubuntu 7.10 nad my sound has always worked fine but suddenly today it stopped working i don't know why I dual-boot with vista and it works fie there. Can anyone help me please?
[18:42] <dennis_> If i need to modify the DSDT , do i need to recompile the kernel?
[18:42] <HarleY_> exit
[18:42] <serenityUK> kenan, I googled for it and found it in debian unstable.. it worked then ubuntu wanted update the old one and it reverted  grrrrr
[18:42] <BronxAngel> serenityUK: i like this one better especially the part about modifying the preseed file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[18:42] <soundray> dennis_: no
[18:42] <HarleY_> sorry
[18:42] <Rufus_> how can I search for direcotries?
[18:43] <Rufus_> directories*
[18:43] <kenan> serenityUK:crap, so what are my choices
[18:43] <betatest20> tyrone: did you try alsamixer and check if the according sliders aren't pulled down?
[18:43] <rich__> i just did an upgrade and now flash doesnt work properly.
[18:43] <TeMagic> Hello everybody!
[18:43] <dennis_> soundray how can i do without recompiling than. i got a file that tells me how to extract, modify and then recompile which i don't want
[18:43] <rich__> any ideas how i check what was installed and why once again its messed up my system
[18:43] <TeMagic> Just got ubuntu installed, and boy was it a much easier procedure than installing openSUSE on my Dell XPS M1330
[18:43] <Gibb> soundray: you rock. It has all of the specific changes I mad right there. can I just delete that whol file?
[18:43] <TeMagic> :9
[18:44] <serenityUK> BronxAngel, yes respin is quite new...  you can change the default user settings
[18:44] <soundray> Gibb: better not. You want  to keep the loopback device
[18:44] <Rufus_> how can I search for files?
[18:44] <soundray> dennis_: you do  want to compile the DSDT, but not the kernel
[18:44] <Gibb> soundray: theres a few lines with my wpa changes under "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" can I get rid of all that?
[18:44] <Pici> Rufus_: From the shell?
[18:44] <Rufus_> yeah
[18:44] <serenityUK> kenan, does it want to remove a lot of software ?  surely not much relies on the new one... you could reinstall it again after the update
[18:45] <dennis_> soundray . i got the modified DSDT files . how do i recompile then?
[18:45] <soundray> dennis_: check if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery
[18:45] <Pici> Rufus_: find /dir/to/search/in -name "something*"    switch to -iname for case insensitive searching.
[18:45] <xybre> I hate having to sign up for a forum just to download a file or something >.<
[18:46] <soundray> Gibb: why don't you just remove the auto line? It won't attempt to bring up the interface on boot after that. Then you can make the required changes from the running system.
[18:46] <TWP-SirStaal> I am fixing the problem with ubunto gutsy gibbon flash ... but how do I get access to the cache director?
[18:46] <Gibb> soundray: ok. is the auto line supposed to be on the bottom?
[18:46] <TWP-SirStaal> Can't create the folder required for it.
[18:46] <soundray> Gibb: but to answer the question: you can in principle remove everything that pertains to the problem interface.
[18:46] <serenityUK> BronxAngel, if they have IDENTICAL hardware there is also an opensource ghost type program... I think it is called clonezilla
[18:47] <soundray> Gibb: it can be anywhere in the file
[18:47] <TeMagic> I have a bit of a problem folks, I can't seem to enable 3d view on the chess game in gnome, I have nvidia 8400M GS graphic card, and have installed the nvidia proprietary driver. Any ideas? thanks
[18:47] <Gibb> soundray: ok, im gonna remove the line and reboot off the live cd
[18:47] <JewStyleKungFu> what do you do on ubuntu when everything stops responding?
[18:48] <soundray> Gibb: no, try rebooting from HD -- it should work after the change
[18:48] <rich__> which you had winxp
[18:48] <Amaranth> JewStyleKungFu: What do you mean?
[18:48] <Gibb> soundray: ack. its saying I dont have access to save it. Ill mess with the permissions
[18:48] <serenityUK> Crtl-Alt-Backspace should get you back to the login prompt
[18:48] <rich__> jewstykejungfu - wish that you had windows
[18:48] <soundray> JewStyleKungFu: reboot with Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen R E I S U B
[18:48] <soundray> Gibb: call the editor with gksudo
[18:48] <JewStyleKungFu> I can move my mouse around, but no amount of mouse clicking will actually cause the OS to respond...
[18:49] <Gibb> soundray: nice, how do I do that with the xunbuntu interface?
[18:49] <projektdotnet> Just had that happen to me and had to hard-reboot
[18:49] <Leechzilla> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarted my system instead of only gdm, 2 days ago. Broke my 2 month uptime.
[18:49] <serenityUK> JewStyleKungFu, try crtl-alt-backspace that gets back to login without rebooting the machine
[18:49] <BronxAngel> serenityUK: wouldn't linux pick up any hw differences any ways? i mean, if i clone pcs with different hw
[18:49] <TeMagic> anybody? I don't mean to be a troll, so if I'm a repeater, please correct me:)
[18:49] <soundray> Gibb: 'gksudo gedit /mnt/etc/network/interfaces' or in a terminal 'sudo nano /mnt/etc/network/interfaces'
[18:50] <blergh> is there a way to list uuid outside of blkid and /etc/disks/by-uuid or whatever the second is?
[18:50] <JewStyleKungFu> thanks serenity
[18:50] <serenityUK> BronxAngel, yes linux is quiet resilient because there is no licence issues... I have moved hard drives between different motherboards... but you may have different screen settings or other issues maybe?
[18:50] <JewStyleKungFu> man, I like that so much better than ctrl+alt+del on windows....because I didn't pay for it
[18:51] <TWP-SirStaal> Thanks guys I fixed flash player now.
[18:51] <soundray> TeMagic: please repeat after 10 minutes of waiting -- other people will have joined within that time
[18:51] <linux1> hiya ppl when im installing a kernel by dpkg im gettign this message debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable,User postrm hook script [/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1,Errors were encountered while processing: can i just delete the file or is there a real problem
[18:51] <Limez> hello all
[18:51] <serenityUK> JewStyleKungFu, if you have programs running outside of the X windows such as downloads in text mode they keep going without stopping... linux is desing as a multiuser system an not to break everything
[18:51] <rich__> TWP how did you fix flash?
[18:52] <JewStyleKungFu> not that I have ever in my life paid for a windows license...but I still feel screwed by microsoft when my pirated OS doesn't work as intended
[18:52] <TeMagic> soundray: ok, thanks, I'll try
[18:52] <Limez> Does a linksys wireless-internet driver exists?
[18:52] <soundray> Gibb: any question before I join my wife and kids for home-made pizza? ;)
[18:52] <lazarus_lupine> Limez: depends on the chipset
[18:52] <rinaldi_> what would i need to type if i want to connect over the internet to my home computer which i set up using the vnc "remote desktop"?
[18:52] <Gibb> soundray: I dont have a menu bar at the top in my live cd, and I cant seem to right click sudo edit the damn file
[18:52] <erUSUL> Limez: you have to find out which chipset the card/usb dongle uses
[18:52] <Limez> How?
[18:53] <wim> codecs for movies?
[18:53] <Gibb> soundray: go enjoy your pizza though, thx for the help
[18:53] <soundray> Gibb: try Alt-F2 and call a terminal with  xterm or gnome-terminal
[18:53] <soundray> Gibb: l8rs
[18:53] <blergh> rinaldi_, vncviewer <ipaddress>
[18:53] <Limez> erUSUL: how to find it out?
[18:53] <TeMagic> wim: just open the movie, and the codec wil be found automatically, at least it did for me (.mkv. x264, divx etc.)
[18:53] <Gibb> soundray: you rock
[18:54] <erUSUL> Limez: is usb or pci?
[18:54] <wim> not for me
[18:54] <rinaldi_> !hardware | Limez
[18:54] <ubotu> Limez: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[18:54] <serenityUK> linux1, you can list open files with   lsof   but it shows hundreds... maybe  you can grep it  such as      lsof  |  grep config.dat     ???
[18:54] <Limez> erUSUL: usb
[18:55] <TeMagic> wim: did you open the movie in totem?
[18:55] <wim> yes
[18:55] <erUSUL> Limez: lsusb
[18:55] <TeMagic> hmmm... so what codec are you missing?
[18:55] <wim> play only avi
[18:55] <TeMagic> do you know what avi codec is used?
[18:55] <linux1> serenityUK thats done nothing mate
[18:55] <Factory|TyraeL^> seek team 1.3 pv me :)
[18:55] <wim> no
[18:55] <TeMagic> k
[18:56] <TeMagic> 2 sec
[18:56] <TeMagic> add/remove programs, and install the gstreamer codec packs
[18:56] <TeMagic> see if that works
[18:56] <xybre> Flash works, yay
[18:57] <wim> thanks, will try
[18:57] <erUSUL> ubotu tell TeMagic about enter | TeMagic see priv msg from ubotu
[18:57] <TeMagic>  I have a bit of a problem folks, I can't seem to enable 3d view on the chess game in gnome, I have nvidia 8400M GS graphic card, and have installed the nvidia proprietary driver. Any ideas? thanks
[18:57] <Gibb> how do I access my hdd from a command prompt on a live cd?
[18:57] <erUSUL> TeMagic: 3dchess needs special 3d python packages installed
[18:58] <TeMagic> sorry, didn't know about the one-line stuff
[18:58] <serenityUK> linux1, sorry it must be just a write-protect flag not an open process
[18:58] <erUSUL> Gibb: mount it and the you can navigate to it with cd
[18:58] <TeMagic> erUSUL: where do I find it
[18:58] <TeMagic> ?
[18:58] <erUSUL> TeMagic: when you try to enable the 2d mode a dialog box appears and tell what the packages are iirc
[18:58] <Stevenking> some mysql cracks here ?
[18:58] <TeMagic> yes, but where do I get the packages?
[18:59] <neverblue> Stevenking, sorry?
[18:59] <serenityUK> linux1, what about    fuser -v /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat
[18:59] <Gibb> erUSUL: weird, ok
[18:59] <erUSUL> TeMagic: with synaptic or apt-get install
[18:59] <TeMagic> I tried programs - add/remove and searched for the packages, but no luck...
[18:59] <Stevenking> i have some questions about myisam and innodb
[18:59] <serenityUK> linux1, without spelling mistake lol
[18:59] <erUSUL> !software | TeMagic
[18:59] <ubotu> TeMagic: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[18:59] <gwildor> quick one.... apt-get install fluxbox, but, i dont have any menu's..... no click yields any results...
[18:59] <TeMagic> apt-get install "package" in terminal?
[18:59] <Rufus_> where does recordmydesktop save the recorded files?
[19:00] <chemist`> hello i've got a question... I installed compiz-fusion + emerald on ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn and when i want to play a movie or videofile the image disappears as i move or resize the window.... any ideas?
[19:00] <neverblue> Stevenking, this is the Ubuntu channel, try in #mysql or #sql
[19:00] <erUSUL> TeMagic: sudo apt-get install package yes... read the page ubotu told you
[19:00] <AsakuroX> hello everyone.. i have some questions about NTFS and ubuntu
[19:00] <erUSUL> chemist`: do you use ati card?
[19:00] <Stevenking> ok
[19:00] <neverblue> AsakuroX, then ask...
[19:00] <chemist`> erUSUL: yes
[19:00] <popey> Rufus_: in your home directory as out.ogg by default
[19:01] <Rufus_> thanks
[19:01] <adys> hey there, Im having some problems installing ubuntu x64 from desktop cd - As soon as the install starts, it loads the linux kernel and then the monitor is not recognized anymore. i tried with two different monitors, with and w/o safe mode, vga etc
[19:01] <TeMagic> ahhh found synapitcs now... thanks!
[19:01] <chemist`> erUSUL: Ati Radeon x300
[19:01] <AsakuroX> neverblue: Ubuntu doesn't find my harddrives and i tried reading from lots of sources for answers.. but i was redirected here
[19:01] <neverblue> Ubuntu doesnt, what about gparted AsakuroX ?
[19:02] <MasterShrek> AsakuroX, sudo fdisk -l     doesnt show anything?
[19:02] <Rufus_> popey, is there a way to change that to another file type?
[19:02] <erUSUL> chemist`: it is spected behavior xgl does not play well with video playback
[19:02] <AsakuroX> neverblue: what do you mean?
[19:02] <Rufus_> a certain program?
[19:02] <neverblue> AsakuroX, sudo aptitude install gparted
[19:02] <avery> hey guys how do I configure my laptop at home so that I can telnet it or make ftp when am in the office
[19:02] <chemist`> erUSUL: any solution to that?
[19:02] <AsakuroX> ill try that now
[19:02] <avery> hey guys how do I configure my laptop at home so that I can telnet it or make ftp when am in the office
[19:02] <chemist`> avery: gentoo
[19:02] <erUSUL> chemist`: i do not have an ati card sorry :(
[19:02] <neverblue> AsakuroX, also see what MasterShrek posted
[19:02] <popey> Rufus_: another file type? other than ogg?
[19:03] <chemist`> erUSUL: ;D np
[19:03] <pike_> avery: id look at openssh-server instead of telnet + ftp its more secure and does both
[19:03] <Rufus_> yeah, is there a file type that will work with windows?
[19:03] <chemist`> hello i've got a question... I installed compiz-fusion + emerald on ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn and when i want to play a movie or videofile the image disappears as i move or resize the window.... any ideas? i have an ATI RADEON x300 series video card
[19:03] <popey> Rufus_: ogg works on windows if you install the codec :)
[19:03] <pike_> avery: sudo apt-get install openssh-server   then just make sure port22 is forwarded if you are behind a router
[19:03] <Rufus_> whats the codec?
[19:03] <misteralexander> hello.  How do I make a ".run" file work?  I downloaded a video linux driver from ATI and that's the file extention it's in.
[19:03] <popey> Rufus_: vorbis & theora
[19:04] <popey> Rufus_: there are directshow filters for windows
[19:04] <MasterShrek> misteralexander, open a terminal and type: chmod a+x file.run
[19:04] <AsakuroX> neverblue: i did install it, and now? are they supposed to just automount?
[19:04] <neverblue> AsakuroX, open gparted
[19:04] <AsakuroX> um..
[19:04] <misteralexander> MASTERSHREK => thanks, i'll try that.
[19:04] <Rufus_> thanks
[19:04] <popey> np
[19:05] <TeMagic> sweet, got it woking now... thanks for the help folks. Man, that package system, Synaptics was fast and easy:)
[19:05] <avery> thanks pike
[19:06] <LockesRabb> hi
[19:06] <LockesRabb> my keyboard shortcuts don't work
[19:06] <lousygarua> anyone wants to help me test my new jabber account?
[19:06] <rokra> please is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb key?
[19:06] <neverblue> lousygarua, setup a jabber server ?
[19:06] <misteralexander> MASTERSHREK => nothing happens, i type that and hit enter and nothing happens, it just returns a blank line like nothing happened.
[19:06] <Limez> What's the name of the linksys usb driver?
[19:07] <AsakuroX> neverblue: now GParted finds two of my harddrives, but where do i find the options to mount them?
[19:07] <MasterShrek> misteralexander, it should, but its executable now so you can run it
[19:07] <misteralexander> MASTERSHREK => Oh, well shit.  Okay, let me try it.
[19:07] <Pici> !language | misteralexander
[19:07] <ubotu> misteralexander: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:07] <neverblue> AsakuroX, so it sees the devices, so you can mount them with 'mount' (man mount) and add them to your /etc/fstab, to appear permanently
[19:08] <SoulWip> .net
[19:08] <LockesRabb> hi, how do i fix my keyboard short-cuts?
[19:08] <AsakuroX> neverblue: i'll try that! :)
[19:08] <Hanif> http://rafb.net/p/vtKvu534.html <- how do I create file name v3 using the cut command?
[19:08] <rich__> can anyone tell me why flash plugin for firefox no longers work after i did a system update
[19:08] <neverblue> AsakuroX, if your not in a rush, take the time to learn about mount
[19:08] <LockesRabb> hi, how do i fix my keyboard shortcuts?
[19:09] <neverblue> rich__, flash is a broken package
[19:09] <rich__> lockesrabb - system, preferences, keyboard shortcuts
[19:09] <rich__> neverblue: meaning?
[19:10] <LockesRabb> @rich; thats what i did, but it doesn't work
[19:10] <neverblue> rich__, thats why its 'no longers work'
[19:10] <lousygarua> neverblue, no - i created an account on a public server and i have no idea if it works
[19:10] <lousygarua> neverblue just need someone to 'hello world' me
[19:10] <linux1> serenityUK i just get Cannot stat /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat: No such file or directory  Cannot stat /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat: No such file or directory
[19:10] <neverblue> lousygarua, create another account, and have two then :)
[19:10] <BartoloCadiz> hi all :)
[19:10] <rich__> so how do i fix it, i have tried reinstalling java and flash and no joy
[19:10] <zombie_monkey> how can I disable eth0 from getting an ip through dhcp?
[19:11] <LockesRabb> @rich, have u attempted reinstallin the browser, then java and flash?
[19:11] <neverblue> rich__, there is no 'fix' as of yet, but read the next post
[19:11] <neverblue> !flash | rich__
[19:11] <lousygarua> neverblue haha! the server just hellowed me automatically
[19:11] <ubotu> rich__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[19:11] <lousygarua> neverblue thanks anyway :)
[19:11] <neverblue> lousygarua, there ya b m8y!
[19:12] <LockesRabb> how can i fix my keyboard shortcuts? i set them, but they aren't working...
[19:12] <dennis_> soundray you here?
[19:13] <misteralexander> MASTERSHREK => i made a post.  This is what I'm seeing:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54371/
[19:13] <LockesRabb> for an offical support channel, not much support here :\
[19:13] <AsakuroX> neverblue: it says mount: /media/sda1 is no block unit
[19:13] <MasterShrek> misteralexander, run it from a terminal: sudo ./file.run
[19:13] <MasterShrek> misteralexander, or: sudo sh file.run
[19:13] <LockesRabb> how can i fix my keyboard shortcuts? i set them, but they aren't working...
[19:13] <misteralexander> okay, i'll try those.
[19:14] <kebinusan> So I followed a guide on setting my my g15 in linux, which seemed to work fine, but I cant bind the G keys in games under Wine, any ideas?
[19:14] <blergh> zombie_monkey, did you try clicking on the network icon in the top right, then selecting manual config, highlighting eth0, select preferences, disable roaming an select static?
[19:15] <blergh> zombie_monkey, sorry if the directions are little off, not currently on ubuntu, but that is the rough idea to do it through gui
[19:15] <blergh> LockesRabb, please reread the rules, one of them being do not constantly repost your question
[19:16] <rich__> possible for me to rollback the changes so that i can get it working how it was 5 mins ago?
[19:16] <blergh> LockesRabb, could you please elaborate on what you have done/what youre trying to do with your keyboard shortcuts?
[19:16] <misteralexander> MASTERSHREK => okay, yeah . . . that worked.  It installed.  Thanks.
[19:17] <LockesRabb> @blergh, i only did that because there seemed to be no response. as for what i've done: i went in the keyboard shortcuts manager, and set the windows key to open the panel, but when i press it, the panel doesn't open....
[19:18] <LockesRabb> @blergh, i'd also like to add, i merged the two menus into one menu, so to access the menu, i click on the ubuntu logo, which brings it up. id like to be able to press the windows key to bring it up.
[19:18] <misteralexander> I didn't pay close enough attention, I need to "configure" an ATI video driver I just installed.  How do I do this?
[19:19] <arcad3> !pastebin
[19:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:19] <BelkMoose> Hi, is there a simple image editor for Ubuntu (GIMP is too complex) .. I just want to paste a few images into one picture
[19:19] <serenityUK> linux1, sorry i said in second message about my spelling mistake  look i wrote  cahce  instead of  cache
[19:19] <TexJoachim> did anyone get a hp scanjet g2710 to work with ubuntu?
[19:20] <hellotherehere> hi, my laptop does not recognize the lan, how to find out where is the problem?
[19:20] <rich__> bloody linux, every time i update something stops working
[19:20] <pike_> BelkMoose: there is a gtkpaint i think.. never tried it though
[19:20] <rich__> how do i overcome these issues?
[19:20] <BelkMoose> hm
[19:20] <usr13_> BelkMoose: Use gimp, once you get the idea of the menus, you will love it.  Hint:  Right click for quick access to menus.
[19:21] <BelkMoose> I can't understand GIMP
[19:21] <pike_> gimp isnt that bad to learn for copy paste cutting, screenshot stuff
[19:21] <BelkMoose> I only use gimp for screenshots tho yea
[19:21] <LockesRabb> eh i dunno about that
[19:21] <hellotherehere> am I invisible in this channel or something? why I never get answers to anything I ask?
[19:21] <LockesRabb> i'm used to adobe photoshop cs2, when i tried gimp, i found it extremely complicated and very different
[19:22] <BelkMoose> i see you
[19:22] <LockesRabb> so i just installed adobe photoshop cs2 under wine
[19:22] <LockesRabb> ;p
[19:22] <BelkMoose> (Sometimes you have to wait :))
[19:22] <Limez> What if I already installed lsusb but my wireless internet (linksys) usb still doesn' t work?
[19:22] <usr13_> BelkMoose: Bring up image #1 Ctrl-c  Right-click File->New (create new blank image), Ctrl-v
[19:22] <usr13_> BelkMoose: etc.etc.
[19:23] <BelkMoose> ok so what's the max #
[19:23] <arcad3> hi,
[19:23] <arcad3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54372/
[19:23] <LockesRabb> hellotherethere, the support personnel here have very slow response times, so you'll end up waiting. i had to wait 5 minutes for someone to finally realize i needed help, and when i told that someone my issue, he stopped responding. so.... patience's a virtue :-)
[19:23] <blergh> LockesRabb, im not on ubuntu right now, but im looking into the problem
[19:23] <blergh> LockesRabb, im currently at work and supposed to be investigating my own problem with redhat hence my slowness, i am sorry
[19:23] <usr13_> BelkMoose: Once you learn the layout of the menus, it is very easy.
[19:23] <BelkMoose> usr13_: But I still don't understand how to move the images
[19:23] <blergh> LockesRabb, i have to restart but i will be back
[19:24] <LockesRabb> blergh, what's the issue you're having
[19:25] <LockesRabb> wb, blergh
[19:25] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  Try Digikam or Picasa.
[19:25] <BelkMoose> k
[19:25] <LockesRabb> blergh, what's the issue ur havin with redhat?
[19:25] <usr13_> BelkMoose: Bring up image #1 Ctrl-c  Right-click File->New (create new blank image and make it very large), Ctrl-v   Bring up Image #2 Ctrl-c Go to new (Untitled image) Ctrl-v  Move it to where you want it.  Shift-c to crop.  etc. etc.
[19:25] <BelkMoose> meep
[19:25] <BelkMoose> ok now i'm getting overwhelmed :)
[19:25] <LockesRabb> usr13, you're very fond of 'etc. etc.' aren't you?
[19:25] <LockesRabb> ;p
[19:26] <blergh> LockesRabb, for some reason kde/konqueror is mounting/displaying any drives with labels twice
[19:26] <BelkMoose> K_Nine: Picasa only comes in .exe? =/
[19:27] <K_Nine> It should be in the medibuntu repos.
[19:27] <DEAthKA> hello
[19:27] <BelkMoose> eh
[19:27] <DEAthKA> a short question
[19:27] <DEAthKA> new to linux
[19:27] <DEAthKA> where do i find realplayer 10?
[19:27] <BelkMoose> hm
[19:27] <kapace> hello, i installed ubuntu on a secondary HD, and didn't install the bootloader, and i have winxp working, but not ubuntu
[19:28] <K_Nine> BelkMoose: Start Synaptic and enable the Medibuntu repository.
[19:28] <cellofellow> I have this odd problem with CUPS: it sometimes just stops (that's the status, stopped) my network printer. The printer I'm using is networked with IPP on my server, and I'm using the Raw Que driver. (Does the same thing when I set the server to be raw and the client to do the driving.) The only way to fix it is to open printers.conf, delete the status lines, and restart cups.
[19:28] <usr13_> BelkMoose: Try it, it's easier than you think.
[19:28] <kapace> how can i add ubuntu to boot.ini?
[19:28] <BelkMoose> you shouldn't need to
[19:28] <LockesRabb> @blergh, have you checked fstab?
[19:28] <ddmdllt> kapace: boot.ini?
[19:28] <cellofellow> kapace: you using wubi?
[19:28] <kapace> i think
[19:28] <kapace> whats wubi?
[19:28] <ddmdllt> kapace: windows boot.ini?
[19:28] <kapace> yes
[19:28] <kapace> ubuntu isn't working
[19:28] <BelkMoose> ok maybe I am being too general when I'm saying Ubuntu then
[19:29] <cellofellow> kapace: it's installing Ubuntu inside windows, and yes it uses boot.ini instead of grub.
[19:29] <BelkMoose> I mean Kubuntu
[19:29] <kapace> i can't boot to it
[19:29] <cellofellow> !wubi
[19:29] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[19:29] <ddmdllt> hum... you can add an entry for grub in boot.ini but it's special...
[19:29] <RequinB4> kapace - try going to your system BIOS
[19:29] <kapace> oo, so i should just run wubi?
[19:29] <RequinB4> and making sure that it boots to ubuntu first
[19:29] <LockesRabb> @ blergh => have you checked fstab? open /etc/fstab in a text editor and see if there's any duplicate entries
[19:29] <kapace> RequinB4: why would i go there?
[19:29] <cellofellow> ddmdllt: boot.ini can do a chainloader just like grub?
[19:29] <kapace> yes
[19:29] <ddmdllt> cellofellow: it can load the first stage of grub
[19:30] <RequinB4> (02:29:01 PM) kapace: i can't boot to it - meaning ubuntu or windows?
[19:30] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  Open Syaptic, click on Settings then repositories and chech the ones not checked. Then click on search and put in Picasa and Digikam. Click on them and check install and then click on apply.
[19:30] <kapace> RequinB4: i can't boot to ubuntu
[19:30] <kapace> thus no grub
[19:30] <RequinB4> kapace: where do you have ubuntu installed?
[19:30] <kapace> so, i think if i install wubi, it will work?
[19:30] <K_Nine> O. You have to click on the reload button tool.
[19:30] <kapace> on another HD
[19:30] <danand> DEAthKA - first and foremost (some might call this pedantic) you should really refer to "Linux" as GNU/Linux. Linux is just the kernel of your OS - the vast majority of the rest of the system was written by the GNU folks... Just to give credit where credits due. PS Why do you specifically want realplayer?
[19:30] <BelkMoose> K_Nine: Synaptic?
[19:30] <cellofellow> kapace: you need grub. just run the livecd and there is a script that installs grub, I think it's sudo grub-install
[19:30] <RequinB4> kapace: go to your system BIOS and set it so it boots to that HDD first
[19:30] <kapace> during install i didn't select to install boot loader
[19:30] <ddmdllt> cellofellow: in fact it's necessary to put the 512 bytes in a file, and to tell to boot.ini to load the file
[19:30] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  Package Manager.
[19:31] <cellofellow> ddmdllt: seems pointless
[19:31] <BelkMoose> oh I have Adept
[19:31] <DEAthKA> yes
[19:31] <kapace> RequinB4: i don't have bootloader to my second HD with ubuntu
[19:31] <ddmdllt> cellofellow: only in case of problems
[19:31] <LockesRabb> hi. my keyboard shortcuts aren't working. I tried setting the windows key to open the main ubuntu menu via keyboard shortcut manager, but it isn't working...
[19:31] <RequinB4> kapace: ah
[19:31] <usr13_> BelkMoose: See: http://docs.gimp.org/en/
[19:31] <kapace> so im going to try wubi now
[19:31] <kapace> brb
[19:31] <cellofellow> kapace: can you tell your bios to boot from a different HD?
[19:31] <kapace> yes..
[19:32] <ddmdllt> cellofellow: but it should work if grub is not on the mbr too...
[19:32]  * cellofellow had to do that while setting up GRUB on a 2-drive system.
[19:32] <kapace> but i can't get it to boot to ubuntu because it doesn't have a bootloader
[19:32] <cellofellow> kapace: then use the LiveCD to install it in the MBR of one of the drives.
[19:32] <kapace> give me a second.. my ubuntu multiboot system is nin another room :P
[19:32] <DEAthKA> i have evrethig i need here  but realplayer
[19:32] <WorkingOnWise>  I have gone brain dead. what is the pretty console mode file deitor with the nice drop-down menues? m something?
[19:32] <philip_> Anyone know an alternative to lanschool, for linux
[19:32] <rsk> philip_: what's lanschool?
[19:32] <rinaldi_> DEAthKA: why do you specifically need realplayer?
[19:32] <BelkMoose> K_Nine: hmm I am using Adept but I can't seem to find the picasa package
[19:33] <r3r3> oh noeZ my flash is borked, you can t downgrade it?
[19:33] <DEAthKA> yes
[19:33] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: probably emacs but I've never touched it. Nano and vim don't have menus.
[19:33] <DEAthKA> only that piece of soft
[19:33] <BelkMoose> should I do Manage repositories
[19:33] <DEAthKA> i tried to compile
[19:33] <philip_> rsk, a proprietary program used by teacher, you can control students pc remotely,..block their screens..show them your screen.
[19:33] <philip_> and such
[19:33] <cellofellow> BelkMoose: just a suggestion, but you'll probably get better help in #kubuntu
[19:33] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: nope. this was much more DOS Edit-ish
[19:33] <danand> DEAthKA - why do you specifically need realplayer - do none of the other apps display what you want to look at?
[19:33] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, you just download the deb file from Google, and run it. It'll install Picasa
[19:33] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  When I click on the icon in the bottom left a program window comes up like windows. In there is my choice for package manager.
[19:34] <DEAthKA> but a small error and here i am trying to search a package
[19:34] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: maybe it's joe
[19:34] <kapace> shoot, i don't have a Cd drive on that system, can i copy WUBI to a ufd, and try it?
[19:34] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, I'll get the link, a second
[19:34] <rsk> philip_: try some vnc programs
[19:34] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: there are tons of CLI editors.
[19:34] <adys> hey there, Im having some problems installing ubuntu x64 from desktop cd - As soon as the install starts, it loads the linux kernel and then the monitor is not recognized anymore. i tried with two different monitors, with and w/o safe mode, vga etc. I got a nvidia 6600 gts
[19:34] <DEAthKA> i need realplayer 10...that protocol it seems
[19:34] <DEAthKA> 10
[19:34] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: just see the editors section in synaptic
[19:34] <RequinB4> hey adys: i had the same problem a week ago
[19:34] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, http://picasa.google.com/linux/thanks-deb.html
[19:34] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  then open a terminal and type sudo install digikam
[19:34] <LockesRabb> that will start the picasa download for you
[19:34] <BelkMoose> kkkk
[19:34] <adys> RequinB4, graphic card?
[19:35] <RequinB4> adys:  6600 GT
[19:35] <adys> might be related
[19:35] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: I did, i thought for sure it was mcedit, but its not there
[19:35] <sharpie_> how can i see my last boot time? (the program called hardinfo shows the 3 last boots, i wanna know where it gets that info from)
[19:35] <DEAthKA> i can play real 9....but not 10
[19:35] <adys> i know there were similar problems last year with another graphic card
[19:35] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: here's one with a description that matches: aee
[19:35] <DEAthKA> curios thing but this is the reality
[19:35] <mage2> I'm having troubles booting my ubuntu system. I had everything going well and then I took out a defective drive and it wouldn't boot anymore with the b0 error. I went into the livecd and reinstalled grub but it still wouldn't boot. Any ideas?
[19:35] <usr13_> sharpie_: uptime
[19:36] <adys> RequinB4, managed to work it around?
[19:36] <danand> DEAthKA - have you downloaded the latest realplayer??
[19:36] <RequinB4> adys: You need to get the right nvidia drivers, and to boot without them so you can get them you need to reconigure X.  What i did was boot the alt CD, install, then get a shell to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', use VESA drivers, then boot up and get the restricted nvidia drivers
[19:36] <DEAthKA> i have a link from debian package..but the link seems to be broken
[19:36] <Sharpie> usr13_: no, the computer boot date
[19:36] <AsakuroX> neverblue: are you there yet?
[19:36] <LockesRabb> can someone help me with my keyboard shortcuts problem?
[19:36] <neverblue> AsakuroX, yes, I am
[19:37] <BelkMoose> yikes i downloaded it but now I am getting errors saying "archive format not supported"
[19:37] <DEAthKA> and the compilation fron the realplayer site is giving me some erroes
[19:37] <adys> RequinB4, cheers ill try that tomorrow, ill get back to you otherwise
[19:37] <somnambulist> hi, does anyone know how to setup a dhcp server running on 3 NICs that will set the client's default gateway to the interface it connects on?
[19:37] <LockesRabb> i've been here for 15 minutes now, and have not gotten any help :-(
[19:37] <RequinB4> adys: ok
[19:37] <BelkMoose> Is it because I tried opening a .deb with ark?
[19:37] <usr13_> Sharpie: What are you looking for?
[19:37] <AsakuroX> neverblue: then i guess you didn't see my question about GParted and Terminal
[19:37] <Sharpie> usr13_: a list of when the computer booted
[19:37] <Sharpie> usr13_: hardinfo shows it
[19:37] <neverblue> AsakuroX, correct
[19:37] <neverblue> as I was busy
[19:38] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, yes, shouldn't open it with ark
[19:38] <DEAthKA> i have the real time kernel..but this should not be something bad
[19:38] <Sharpie> usr13_: i was sharpie_ before, i ghosted whoever used my nick :/
[19:38] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, you should open it with GDebi Package Installer
[19:38] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: ty. I'll check it out...wierd I cant find mcedit. do u see it in your system?
[19:38] <DEAthKA> everything is working perfectly
[19:38] <DEAthKA> not the realplayer
[19:39] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: oh, I just remembered that mcedit is part of mc, ie midnight commander, the venerable CLI file manager.
[19:39] <DEAthKA> 1 h and a half  anf
[19:39] <DEAthKA> and no result
[19:39] <AsakuroX> neverblue:  i was asking about the fstab.. it doesn't exist :S
[19:39] <DEAthKA> i dont know what to do next
[19:39] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: as in if i install mc, I have mcedit?
[19:39] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: I think so...
[19:39] <AsakuroX> also, it cant find my partitions in /media neverblue
[19:39] <neverblue> AsakuroX, i am 100% confident fstab does in fact exist
[19:40] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: let me check something
[19:40] <neverblue> AsakuroX, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[19:40] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: ok....
[19:40] <linux1> serenityUK sorry eating my dinner ,still not output with that spelt the right way
[19:40] <cellofellow> WorkingOnWise: yes, that is where you get it
[19:40] <ctrader> somnambulist: I am checking to see how to do it
[19:40] <WorkingOnWise> cellofellow: thanks...
[19:40] <Sharpie> A program named "hardinfo" shows a list of the last 3 times my computer booted. where does it get its info from?
[19:40] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose you can download it to a specific location, navigating to the location, running it by doin "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[19:40] <lauren> can anyone tell me how i'd go about deleting a large amount of files in a single directory? 'rm -f *' returns "too many arguments"
[19:40] <somnambulist> ctrader, great, let me know what you find
[19:40] <BelkMoose> How big is this Picasa file?
[19:40] <mutual> ubuntu is for hippies
[19:40] <Sharpie> lauren: rm -rf ./
[19:41] <Sharpie> lauren: when you're in that directory, of course
[19:41] <danand> DEAthKA - have you tried downloading realplayer directly? I'm sure realplayer can work installed by user (not system wide)
[19:41] <sfears> how do i figure out what the /dev name of my usb drive is so that i can mount it?
[19:41] <lauren> Sharpie, what's the -rf ./ do?
[19:41] <AsakuroX> neverblue: do you want the output to help me further?
[19:41] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, 20.7 MB
[19:41] <sfears> it is not sda1
[19:41] <BelkMoose> wow
[19:41] <sfears> at least sda1 is not found
[19:41] <neverblue> AsakuroX, output of what?
[19:41] <RequinB4> sfears - nautilus has a nice pretty picture
[19:41] <BelkMoose> lauren: it removes the directory
[19:41] <DEAthKA> solved...:)
[19:42] <Sharpie> lauren: -rf means that it will go recursively and delete folders as well, ./ means the current folder (../ means the previous one)
[19:42] <AsakuroX> neverblue: of the nano etc command u sent me
[19:42] <DEAthKA> curios
[19:42] <sfears> i don't see any pictures
[19:42] <lauren> BelkMoose, i want to keep the directory, just remove the files, its for a web server
[19:42] <BelkMoose> yea I deleted /www in my web server
[19:42] <sfears> and that wasn't the answer to my question
[19:42] <DEAthKA> in 1 h
[19:42] <ctrader> somnambulist: are all of the clients going to be on the same subnet, sharing the same pool of IP's?
[19:42] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  It should be in the repositories. All you have to do is click apply after you search for it.
[19:42] <DEAthKA> thx for the help
[19:42] <lauren> is there a way to pipe grep output into rm?
[19:42] <BelkMoose> yea, but regardless, it's going to be a large file?
[19:42] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  What distro are you using?
[19:42] <RequinB4> sfears: if you open nautilus there should be a list of potentially bootable stuff on the left
[19:42] <BelkMoose> Kubuntu 7.10
[19:43] <AsakuroX> neverblue: of the nano etc command u sent me
[19:43] <danand> DEAthKA :)
[19:43] <LockesRabb> Can someone help me with my keyboard shortcut problem please? It's been 25 minutes of waiting. ;p
[19:43] <sfears> that's not the answer to my question
[19:43] <K_Nine> BelkMoose: It is not a large file.
[19:43] <BelkMoose> It is if you're on dialup
[19:43] <DEAthKA> danand: thx man i will hang out here for long time
[19:43] <LockesRabb> BelkMoose, it's a small file. It only took me two seconds to download it.
[19:43] <sfears> how do i figure out what the /dev of my usb drive is so i can mount it?
[19:43] <BelkMoose> but I'm not on dialup, it just seems like it
[19:43] <K_Nine> BelkMoose: When you click on the kicker, do you see Synaptic as a choice or package manager?
[19:44] <neverblue> AsakuroX, thats your fstab, that you mentioned wasnt there
[19:44] <RequinB4> sfears: You wanted to mount it... If all you wanted was the name for soem other purpose just go to that directory  and look at the files inside
[19:44] <BelkMoose> K_Nine: Negative
[19:44] <danand> lauren - you could do rm `ls | grep *jpg` - this would rm all jpg files for instance
[19:44] <frawfraw> can anyone try to ssh to 91.155.238.61 and tell me if you get a response?
[19:44] <LockesRabb> Can someone help me with my keyboard shortcut problem please? It's been 25 minutes of waiting. ;p
[19:44] <neverblue> AsakuroX, so you have to read up on 'man mount' to find out what to do
[19:44] <soundray> sfears: run tail -f /var/log/syslog and observe the messages as you plug it in
[19:44] <AsakuroX> neverblue: aha, but why is some of my partitions mentioned there but not aviable in ubuntu? :(
[19:44] <sfears> i tried that.. it said scsi1.. but that didn't seem to work
[19:44] <K_Nine> BelkMoose: Let me check.
[19:44] <ctrader> LockesRabb: what is the problem?
[19:45] <blergh> LockesRabb, sorry, still not in ubuntu, but here is a quick google that sounded similar http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/
[19:45] <ConstyXIV> can you turn your desktop vertical in ubuntu?
[19:45] <tacone> !flash
[19:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[19:45] <kranny> i want to coonect my laptop and dektop through a lan cable
[19:45] <soundray> sfears: look out for a sequence beginning with /dev/sd
[19:45] <kranny> Both have fesity on them
[19:45] <danbhfive> I just got a new package for flash today
[19:46] <frawfraw> kranny: do you have a router?
[19:46] <BelkMoose> Oh I jsut installed flash through firefox's plugin finder :)
[19:46] <danbhfive> are you sure flash is not fixed?
[19:46] <neverblue> AsakuroX, did you add a new HD after you installed Ubuntu ?
[19:46] <Zoldax_II> mn
[19:46] <soundray> sfears: alternatively enable automounting in System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[19:46] <kranny> frawfraw:no
[19:46] <LockesRabb> blergh => that's what i did, and that's not working
[19:46] <ctrader> LockesRabb: I've had troubles with the key working if you are running compiz-fusion
[19:46] <kranny> Just a LAN cable
[19:46] <frawfraw> kranny:  a router is what you need.  it is a little box that goes between the two computers and lets them talk.
[19:47] <pike_> kranny: if its a newer lappy alot of nics do the crossover for you
[19:47] <LockesRabb> i think the problem is, i merged the ubuntu menus into a single panel menu
[19:47] <blergh> LockesRabb, i would try switching to metacity if youre not already, try the shortcut, if it still doesnt work, try something simple like map windows to play music
[19:47] <kranny> frawfraw:anything like adhoc network
[19:47] <blergh> LockesRabb, try to see if you can get the windows key to do anything
[19:47] <blergh> LockesRabb, if you can, then it may be the merged menus
[19:47] <K_Nine> BelkMoose:  Try going to this page to see how to add repositories to Adept. http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/index.php
[19:47] <AsakuroX> neverblue: aha, but why is some of my partitions mentioned there but not aviable in ubuntu? :(
[19:47] <kranny> pike_:uyah its a new hp v3424au
[19:47] <soundray> kranny: you can connect two machines directly, but you need a crossover patch cable
[19:47] <neverblue> AsakuroX, did you add a new HD after you installed Ubuntu ?
[19:47] <LockesRabb> i tried using windows and tab key to switch windows via compiz fusion, works fine
[19:48] <AsakuroX> neverblue:  no i didn't
[19:48] <dimitri_> what shortcut key is for change languages?
[19:48] <neverblue> AsakuroX, i dunno then *shrugs*
[19:48] <pike_> kranny: you could try just pluggint em in maybe the nic will handle it for you youd need to google the model i suppose ad hoc is easy to setup
[19:48] <neverblue> AsakuroX, does that really matter though, now you have to find out how to set it up
[19:48] <AsakuroX> neverblue:  awmygod... what the h*ll am i supposed to do now then?
[19:48] <LockesRabb> blergh: i'm going to add another panel, then put the normal menus there and see if the windows key executes then
[19:49] <kranny> pike_:tanks
[19:49] <wyth> Question: Anybody on here get a Dell 530 desktop with Ubuntu pre-installed?  If so, I have just a couple questions
[19:49] <neverblue> AsakuroX, as I have told you about 5 times now, read 'man mount'
[19:49] <danand> LockesRabb - I just done that - never knew it did THAT - COOL!! :) - thought i was limited to ALT-TAB
[19:49] <somnambulist> ctrader, i've decided to put them on different subnets, that makes it easy, thanks :)
[19:49] <serenityUK> linux1, have you tried rebooting?
[19:49] <soundray> wyth: why not just ask the questions (one at a time)
[19:49] <piccola> ciao
[19:49] <AsakuroX> neverblue: ah i thought u meant 'man' = 'manually'
[19:49] <kranny> what is a crossover patch cable
[19:49] <piccola> !addon
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:50] <Stavros> how can i prevent people from reading folders they don't have access to?
[19:50] <somnambulist> now, what is the proper command to restart networking? i've done 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' but that didn't read the /etc/network/interfaces
[19:50] <linux1> yeah thats the first thing i did
[19:50] <soundray> kranny: it's an ethernet cable that has two wires crossed over
[19:50] <TeMagic> hi again everybody
[19:50] <wyth> Okay, first question: Has anyone been able to get sleep/standby/hibernate to work?
[19:50] <linux1> i have the porblem for a day or 2 now
[19:50] <frawfraw> can anyone try to ssh to 91.155.238.61 and tell me if you get a response?
[19:50] <TeMagic> just have a quick question, how do I run a program as root in the terminal?
[19:50] <LockesRabb> danand -- haha yea, there's alot it can do
[19:51] <soundray> TeMagic: 'sudo program'
[19:51] <kranny> Temagic:su
[19:51] <RequinB4> !sudo
[19:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:51] <danand> LockesRabb - SUPER-ALT-TAB works too :) V Happy with that!! - What else??
[19:51] <blergh> LockesRabb, iirc, using the system>preferences way of changing keyboard shortcuts is bound to system defaults, ala pause is for rhythmbox so using compiz or new menus still might not work if im correct
[19:51] <frawfraw> TeMagic: sudo some_command
[19:51] <soundray> kranny: do not recommend su please
[19:51] <TeMagic> tgank
[19:51] <TeMagic> thanks
[19:51] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[19:51] <LockesRabb> blergh -- i just added new panel, added normal menus to it, still didn't work
[19:51] <jpatrick> !noroot | kranny
[19:51] <ubotu> kranny: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[19:51] <pankos> hello
[19:51] <kranny> sorry everyone
[19:51] <blergh> LockesRabb, i would try opening rhythmbox, binding windows key or windows key plus some letter to play and testing that
[19:51] <Cpudan80> I'm having trouble with XChat, it has a weird directory in /<home>/.xchat2/scrollback -- it's called "FreeNode?"
[19:52] <RequinB4> hello pankos
[19:52] <blergh> LockesRabb, could also try binding windows key to the screensaver
[19:52] <Cpudan80> I need to get rid of it -- cause it's messing up my client --- any idea how?
[19:52] <soundray> TeMagic: be careful not to run a graphical program with sudo. Use gksudo for those
[19:52] <LockesRabb> okay, tryin, sec
[19:52] <kranny> how to add a user to sudoers list
[19:52] <wyth> guess not?
[19:52] <soundray> kranny: 'sudo adduser username admin'
[19:53] <soundray> wyth: say that it's a Dell 530 on the same line that you ask the question. New people are logging on all the time.
[19:53] <TeMagic> when I try to connect my logitech bluetooth laser mouse in ubuntu, I get an error message: saying my mouse is not a valid location....
[19:53] <TeMagic> ?
[19:53] <LockesRabb> blergh, i don't see any mention of screensaver in keyboard shortcuts manager
[19:54] <danand> Just a quickie - how do I find all the keyboard shortcuts for compiz - ala ALT-TAB for changing windows etc??
[19:54] <GHOST> hello there anyone know how can i desactivate FIRESTARTER when ubuntu is booting(i got an error about the fact that firestarter wont start) ? tx
[19:55] <serenityUK> linux1, try      sudo dpkg --configure -a     &&       sudo apt-get -f install
[19:55] <zed_> hi I removed my kenel at one point on accident, got it back but now when I login I get a brown screen, I can get terminal and open programs, but I can't get online from the boot and install the files I removed
[19:55] <AsakuroX> neverblue: man mount didn't solve anything..
[19:55] <kahrytan> GHOST->  firestarter isnt a firewall
[19:55] <blergh> LockesRabb, its probably lock screen, not sure, still not in ubuntu :/
[19:55] <zed_> I have root in a live session and wanted to know if theres a way to install the base boot up files without a full install
[19:56] <LockesRabb> danand shift+alt+up
[19:56] <jpatrick> GHOST: sudo update-rc.d -f firestarter remove
[19:56] <TeMagic> is there a program I can download to control the fans of my laptop (m1330), they're spinning constantly...? And how do I get my bluetooth mouse connected?
[19:56] <danand> GHOST - wouldn't worry about that - mine says the same. Think its caused by firestarter trying to start the firewall without the network interface being up first
[19:56] <hsystemxX> kahrytan, nobody is asking that... we all know that it is a frontend to manage ip tables.
[19:56] <soundray> zed_: one possibility is to install the packages that are still in the cache /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:56] <zed_> O hey soundray
[19:56] <LockesRabb> super+tab can work two ways, there's flip switcher, or ring switcher
[19:56] <LockesRabb> me, i use flip switcher
[19:56] <GHOST> jpatrick dats cool tank again bye ;)
[19:56] <Almaceno_24> dd
[19:57] <linux1> serenityUK i have tryed that allready and just again but im getting the same message
[19:57] <wyth> Sorry -- I have a new Dell 530 with Gutsy 7.10 pre-installed.  I got it with a 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-  DDR3 gfx card.  I have it set to go to sleep after an hour, to save power.  But it won't come back out; it flashes the login screen, then goes black, I see a bunch of command-line-like text, and then it goes black again. If I hit the power button again, it just reboots
[19:57] <soundray> zed_: I see you haven't given up. You'd be back up and running now if you had reinstalled ;)
[19:57] <wyth> So I'm looking for a way around that
[19:57] <jason_> can some one help me with enableing my graphics card to run fully?
[19:57] <TeMagic> jason_:  what graphic card?
[19:57] <jason_> intel
[19:57] <jason_> 1 sec
[19:57] <zed_> Hey hey I got the kernel back, besides wheres the fun in being a stubborn  person in that?
[19:58] <AsakuroX> neverblue: man mount didn't solve anything..
[19:58] <LockesRabb> danand -- you can see a list of keyboard shortcuts for compiz fusion here: http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[19:58] <LockesRabb> blergh, i will try the lock screen one
[19:58] <jason_> actually ther are a few problems with ubuntu out of the box for my laptop
[19:58] <jeffMASTERflex> AsakuroX: man mounting seems to work for about 10% of the population
[19:58] <rich__> yoyo, my system update has gyed me up again! flash doesnt work, any ideas
[19:58] <jason_> for one it doesnt reconize my computer
[19:58] <hsystemxX> im zZ and have to work ... damn (spam)
[19:58] <AsakuroX> jeffMASTERflex:  haha lol so what should i do then?
[19:59] <danand> LockesRabb - Thanks!
[19:59] <zed_> rich_: flash the program or the plugin?
[19:59] <LockesRabb> danand -- no problem
[19:59] <rich__> the plugin
[19:59] <serenityUK> linux1, i've fixed it before it's bugging me that I can't find the answer again..   I think there is a lock file that is created when you open synaptic that stops you running apt-get at same time etc... if you delete the lock file as root it works
[19:59] <LockesRabb> blergh -- when i set windows key to lock screen, it works
[19:59] <kahrytan> rich__-> Whats wrong with flash
[19:59] <rich__> i did a system update, now it says its not installed
[20:00] <rich__> when i go to youtube etc
[20:00] <jason_> Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:00] <kahrytan> !flash > rich__
[20:00] <serenityUK> linux1, all the searches so far have given previous advice
[20:00] <jason_> is my grapics card
[20:00] <kahrytan> rich__->  read ubotu msg
[20:00] <rich__> gnash is GASH, so i uninstalled it, as it doesnt play back properly or show the video controls
[20:00] <soundray> !flashissue > rich__
[20:00] <__mikem> Is there a way to make texmacs which uses an older graphical toolkit for its gui blend in better with the other gtk applications?
[20:00] <LockesRabb> blergh, i tried ctrl q for the panel menu, that didnt work either
[20:00] <rich__> when did this issue happen today?
[20:00] <hsystemxX> rich__ from my experience, flash plugin in ubuntu linux for firefox, wont work if it is installed from firefox itself. If i were you i will go to adobe.com and download the tar.gz package of adobe flash and install it.
[20:00] <LockesRabb> blergh, hell, ANY shortcut i assign for the panel menu don't work
[20:01] <AsakuroX> jeffMASTERflex:  so what should i do then?
[20:01] <soundray> rich__: no, it's been going on for weeks. Proprietary software: more trouble than it's worth(TM)
[20:01] <jason_> can some one help me with runing my Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller at full speed
[20:01] <kranny> I have free downloads from 10 pm to 6 am ...so i need to disconnect before 6 am....any automated approach
[20:01] <blergh> LockesRabb, what about for things other than the menu?
[20:01] <kranny> i tried crontab
[20:01] <linux1> serenityUK when i find the file i will
[20:01] <__mikem> Let me ask a more general question, is there a way to make applications that use older Graphical Toolkits for their UI, look more like the newer gtk apps
[20:02] <serenityUK> linux1, does the error msg say something at the top such as   Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lock   ?
[20:02] <jason_> i can't even get some screensaver to run at full speed
[20:02] <PriceChild> __mikem, rewrite them to use the new stuff?
[20:02] <LockesRabb> blergh -- other things other than the menu works fine
[20:02] <linux1> serenityUK no
[20:02] <__mikem> PriceChild, no what i mean is, I heard there was a package you could install that updates the appearence for those apps
[20:02] <serenityUK> linux1, be careful deleting files as root lol..  it's a very specific file
[20:03] <__mikem> but i don't know the name of it
[20:03] <soundray> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel | jason_
[20:03] <ubotu> jason_: xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[20:03] <jason_> hmm...
[20:03] <linux1> serenityUK hehehe i know ;)
[20:03] <blergh> LockesRabb, alright, i have to leave for a little bit, but I think it may have to do with the panel having been reconfigured, ill get back to you in a bit
[20:03] <ctrader> kranny: crontab wasn't able to do it?
[20:03] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: hi there. ubuntu is generally working ok, ive installed the restricted drivers and the updates, if there anything else you recommend doing/installing?
[20:03] <kranny> I have free downloads from 10 pm to 6 am ...so i need to disconnect before 6 am....any automated approach...i tried crontab
[20:03] <__mikem> PriceChild, do you understand what I mean?
[20:03] <soundray> jason_: make sure you have this package installed ^^, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select the intel driver. (Accept the defaults for everything else)
[20:03] <PriceChild> __mikem, no idea
[20:03] <__mikem> thanks anyway :(
[20:04] <kranny> ctrader i can only shutdown
[20:04] <jason_> ok will do
[20:04] <TeMagic> does anybody know how I can connect my logitech bluetooth mouse in ubuntu? It says the MAC-address of the moiuse is not a valid location....
[20:04] <kranny> ctrader:but i need to disconnect rather than shutting down the system
[20:04] <soundray> __mikem: there is no way, unless you port the sourcecode to the newer toolkit yourself
[20:04] <soundray> __mikem: (or ask the developers to do it)
[20:05] <kranny> ctrader:i made a /sbin/poweroff entry in crontab
[20:05] <soundray> kranny: you can time the shutdown of the network interface in question. Just run 'ifdown ppp0' from cron (substitute your actual net interface)
[20:06] <shade052> kranny: set "/etc/init.d/networking stop" in cron. i think it will work
[20:06] <hellotherehere> I followed the steps mentioned here to fix the ethernet problem and now the whole computer is not loading at all
[20:06] <zed_> soundray: can I do a reinstall without formating? it keeps telling my no root format defined
[20:06] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337,    I  use   miro   to subscribe to videos and podcasts such as Diggnation      and   innotek Virtualbox  instead of vmware to run other OS in a window,  compiz-fusion for 3D effects  System->Prefs->Appearance effects to custom and install compizconfig-settings-manager to change the control panel...
[20:06] <shade052> kranny: in su mode obviously
[20:06] <USCA> >	You are all invited to us & ca universities
[20:07] <linux1> serenityUK still not joy
[20:07] <soundray> zed_: where do you get that error?
[20:07] <zed_> install menu
[20:07] <jason_> ok help me with getting that package soundray is ther a link in the info you gave me above?
[20:07] <Bagualas> how do I block an user to use pen drivers/storage USB devices? Just uses keyboard and mouse usb?
[20:07] <zed_> just going to do the re-install, but wanted to know if I can do it without wiping the hd
[20:08] <soundray> jason_: no. Install it via synaptic
[20:08] <mkquist> zed_: did you define a root mount( / ) point?
[20:08] <Ballena> can anyone recommend me a good Mail Transfer Agent ?
[20:08] <zed_> yes
[20:08] <cmna> sigh.  3 long days of trying to get the graphics running right on this thing and no luck
[20:09] <kranny> shade052:no its not disconnecting my net
[20:09] <mkquist> zed_: installer still wants to reformat then?
[20:09] <kranny> i tried it just now
[20:09] <zed_> yes
[20:09] <fitztrev> How can I have rsync delete any folders/files in the destination that don't exist in the source?
[20:09] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337,   Songbird is good for music like iTunes  (although beta not finished)  and of course google earth runs in Linux
[20:09] <mkquist> zed_: maybe try the alternate install cd...
[20:09] <soundray> fitztrev: use the --delete option
[20:09] <shade052> kranny: how come. you did it in sudo right?
[20:09] <TeMagic> anybody know how to connect a bluetooth mouse in ubuntu?
[20:10] <kranny> yes
[20:10] <shade052> kranny: any error showing up?
[20:10] <mkquist> zed_: just used an alternate install cd and it asked if i wanted to install on previous unclean (or something along those lines) installation
[20:10] <jason_> i got it thanks
[20:10] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337,   you might want to try Flock the web browser which is like a newer version of Firefox for use with Youtube and facebook etc
[20:10] <jason_> lol
[20:10] <kranny> shade052:actually i connected through wvdial
[20:10] <soundray> !bluetooth > TeMagic, please read ubotu's private message
[20:10] <fitztrev> soundray: That's what I've been trying:  rsync -r --delete fol1/* fol2 -v      But it's not doing what I want
[20:10] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: cool, thanks for the recommendations
[20:11] <zed_> hmmm.... I can take root of my Ubuntu hd partition how can I tunnel the internet to it? so that apt-get can update, right now I get some X11 error
[20:11] <jason_> thanks soundray
[20:11] <Bagualas> how do I block an user to use pen drivers/storage USB devices? Just uses keyboard and mouse usb?
[20:11] <TeMagic> sorry, didn't see the private message... thanks
[20:11] <zed_> and thanks, I'll dl that disk
[20:11] <kranny> shade052:no error
[20:11] <soundray> fitztrev: perhaps you haven't got permission to delete files in fol2
[20:11] <kranny> shade052:i connected through wvdial
[20:11] <shade052> kranny: wvdial.. no idea!
[20:11] <jmantra> Can someone reccomend a good wireless card that can run in linux without NDIS wrapper?
[20:11] <TeMagic> allright then, that was actually easy, but the location of the setting wasn't logical in my mind, anyway, got it working, thanks
[20:12] <TeMagic> now, do any of you know of a program to control laptop fans?
[20:12] <kranny> shade052:i mean dialup connection
[20:12] <soundray> jmantra: the mini PCI cards with Intel 2200BG chipset work very well
[20:12] <shade052> kranny: do you have have ethernet attached or usb or something else
[20:13] <danand> TeMagic - if you have a dell machine i8kutils, i8kfan may help
[20:13] <jmantra> which ones have that chipset,I am going to best buy later to pick up one?
[20:13] <TeMagic> danand: thanks, I'll see if I find it
[20:13] <shade052> kranny: does wvdial have its own application to connect with?
[20:13] <kranny> shade052:dialup modem through usb
[20:14] <danand> TeMagic - That may only work for Dell laptops !!
[20:14] <danand> TeMagic - apt-cache pkgnames | grep i8k
[20:14] <soundray> kranny: consider setting up diald. It's fairly complex, but you can set up time-dependent dialup rules
[20:15] <fitztrev> soundray: permissions are fine on both folders.  still won't take
[20:15] <TeMagic> danand: I have a dell m1330... I found the program in synaptics... I'll try it out now... thank you...
[20:15] <kranny> shade052:wvdial is a internet dialer through terminal
[20:15] <danand> TeMagic - cool :)
[20:15] <kranny> Ctrl+c in the working terminal disconnects it
[20:15] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[20:15] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:16] <mkquist> anyone know the command to find programs location? where?
[20:16] <shade052> kranny: find the process id and close the process
[20:16] <usr13_> mkquist: find or locate
[20:16] <danand> TeMagic - think command is something like i8kctrl .... options
[20:16] <TeMagic> danand: I got it from synaptics: now how do I run it? i8kutil in terminal did nothing
[20:16] <Starnestommy> mkquist: which program-name
[20:16] <usr13_> mkquist: which
[20:16] <usr13_> sorry
[20:16] <mkquist> which.. thats it ty
[20:16] <TeMagic> I think you just answered me while I was typing the question
[20:16] <TeMagic> I'll try it
[20:16] <mkquist> usr13_: ty
[20:16] <danand> TeMagic - beat you to it :D
[20:16] <TeMagic> :)
[20:17] <shade052> kranny: type ps -ef|grep wvdial. you will get the PID . then kill the pid!
[20:17] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ive downloaded flock and songbird, but i dont know how to install them. its not going to be as easy as windows, is it :P
[20:17] <TeMagic> nah... i8kctrl : command not found
[20:17] <soundray> fitztrev: the manpage has a lengthy explanation. In short: don't use the * wildcard
[20:18] <fitztrev> soundray: ah yes! that worked.  thanks a bunch!
[20:18] <danand> TeMagic - try typing i8k and then try to auto complete with TAB - see what comes up
[20:18] <kranny> shade052:but daily i have to update crontab
[20:18] <kranny> with the pid
[20:18] <martin_> how to install emerald?
[20:18] <tyrone> hi by accident I deleted some files I had in a NTFS external drive what program can i use in ubuntu to recover them?
[20:19] <TeMagic> autio complete: nice function... thanks, I'll try it
[20:19] <K_Nine> mkquist: try which <file>
[20:19] <hsystemxX> martin,  sudo aptitude install emerald
[20:19] <martin_> ok
[20:19] <martin_> found it
[20:19] <TeMagic> nah... nothing comes up
[20:19] <martin_> what about apt-get?
[20:19] <zoli2k> Hi! How can I disable compiz? I enabled compiz in Desktop Effects, but after system upgrade the Desktop Effects application disappeared.
[20:19] <hsystemxX> use aptitude :) for this one
[20:19] <Ayabara> if it's connected via bluetooth, how can I browse my k810 phone in ubuntu?
[20:19] <hsystemxX> more complet.e
[20:19] <soundray> tyrone: ntfsundelete from the ntfsprogs package (never tried it though)
[20:19] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, if it is a .deb file you just double-click on it lol,   most things for ubuntu you set up a 3rd party repository and install through clicking in Synaptic that way it will update itself
[20:19] <shade052> kranny: well the method is crude. i agree. but anything that saves money is worth it. right. :)
[20:20] <tyrone> zoli2k, metacity --replace
[20:20] <danand> TeMagic - what package did you install with synaptics - i8kutils? i8kfan?
[20:20] <tyrone> soundray, thanks
[20:20] <kranny> shade052::P
[20:20] <martin_> i installed emerald
[20:20] <martin_> an got  no themes
[20:20] <zoli2k> tyrone: My problem is not replacing but disabling. I don't think it is effective to run this on every system start.
[20:20] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: oh right, i dled them from the official site and theyre in tar.gz format or something like that
[20:20] <hsystemxX> i believe the thems are,   sudo aptitude install emerald-themes
[20:21] <hsystemxX> but for themes go to www.gnome-look.org
[20:21] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, a repository is just a server with .deb files on it... like when you installed and got 185 updates   ubuntu software upgrades itself it's actually easier when you get used to it
[20:21] <martin_> I installed emerald, and its without themes, I go to fetch gpld themes
[20:21] <martin_> nothing happens
[20:21] <danand> TeMagic ....just getting my laptop ...
[20:21] <tyrone> zoli2k, sudo apt-get remove compiz
[20:21] <TeMagic> danand: i8kutil
[20:21] <hsystemxX> martin _, i believe the thems are,   sudo aptitude install emerald-themes
[20:21] <usr13_> SexyJames1337: Compiling from source is complicated.  You couldn't find pre-compiled packages?
[20:21] <shade052> kranny: you can try google to find how to disconnect USB devices from command prompt. that may be a more elegant solution
[20:21] <hsystemxX> martin_ , i believe the themes are,   sudo aptitude install emerald-themes
[20:21] <hsystemxX> but for themes go to www.gnome-look.org
[20:21] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, tar.qz is a zip file for source code.. you shouldn't need that
[20:21] <serenityUK> gz
[20:21] <danand> TeMagic - Just booting my laptop ... wait one
[20:22] <martin_> it says no candidate found
[20:22] <TeMagic> sure
[20:22] <hsystemxX> because they eliminated that package. after gutsy upgrade.
[20:22] <zoli2k> tyrone: will this change in my local gnome config files the default window manager?
[20:22] <hsystemxX> go to gnome-look.org
[20:22] <K_Nine> mkquist:  or you can try   type <program> in a terminal
[20:22] <hsystemxX> and download the themes.
[20:22] <martin_> ...
[20:22] <danand> TeMagic - fsck ... gonna be a while :)
[20:22] <martin_> so... how to get the temes
[20:22] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: oh right... hehe
[20:22] <tyrone> zoli2k, I am not sure ask again
[20:22] <martin_> themes*
[20:22] <TeMagic> :)
[20:22] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, hang on let me check the sites
[20:23] <hsystemxX> ***martin_, go to gnome-look.org and download the themes...
[20:23] <ety> how can i play .swf files on ubuntu
[20:23] <kapace> so, if i installed ubuntu without a bootloader, how can i boot to it?
[20:23] <bruenig> ety, try opening them in the browwser
[20:23] <ety> no its a file .swf
[20:23] <At0x0> Is it possible to have a different desktop background for each workspace/desk I have?
[20:23] <zoli2k> tyrone: the default window manager is set in some local config file. I am not sure that un-installing compiz will change my local config file from compiz to metacity.
[20:24] <ety> i want to play it on vlc or totem
[20:24] <ety> is there any player for .swf files
[20:24] <tyrone> zoli2k, I am not sure ask again so that some else answers your question
[20:24] <soundray> kapace: you can install grub after the fact. Just follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions from ubotu:
[20:24] <soundray> !grub | kapace
[20:24] <ubotu> kapace: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:24] <kapace> soundray: thanks lots
[20:24] <kapace> :D
[20:24] <martin_> I entered sudo apt-get install gnash
[20:24] <zoli2k> tyrone: Anyway, this is a solution. I will give a try. thanks a lot.
[20:24] <MrObvious> Do0zman: Sup. :p
[20:24] <usr13_> ety: I think .swf is flash or something like that?  Right?
[20:24] <martin_> but it didn't intall in firefox
[20:25] <usr13_> ety: Try firefox
[20:25] <ety> yes how can i play .swf files
[20:25] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, ok as these programs are new/beta you have got the right files but what I am about to tell you is not needed for most software, most is easier
[20:25] <tyrone> zoli2k, don't worry man
[20:25] <Starnestommy> ety: gnash?
[20:25] <ety> what firefox thats a browser
[20:25] <Ballena> does a MTA always send and recvive or is it common that I MTA could be built for just doing one thing?
[20:25] <usr13_> ety: Yes, you are correct.
[20:25] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ok then
[20:26] <_Drax> is it normal that it caches 100MB of 256MB ram.. ? sometimes it only leaves about 10mb memfree... ?
[20:26] <ety> i have files that are .swf i want to play them on player
[20:26] <usr13_> ety: There are flash player plugins for firefox.
[20:26] <usr13_> ety: Use firefox
[20:26] <soundray> ety: just listen to usr13 and load your .swf file in firefox
[20:26] <danand> TeMagic - Ok, I have i8kctl, i8kfan, i8kmon, i8kbuttons
[20:26] <martin_> my usb stick isn't reconised in ubuntu its 4 gigs
[20:27] <soundray> before someone gets hurt
[20:27] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, if you have the .gz files in a safe  place such as your downloads folder just right-click on them and choose Extract Here  you should get two folders  Songbird and  flock...
[20:27] <kapace> soundray: if i install grub, will windows still be bootable?
[20:27] <martin_> !flash
[20:27] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[20:27] <TeMagic> sudo apt-get install i8kctl ... can't find package
[20:27] <martin_> !flashissues
[20:27] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[20:27] <usr13_> ety: In the address bar type /home/usename
[20:27] <soundray> kapace: yes. In most cases, your Windows installation will be identified and made accessible. If not, come back here to learn how to include it manually
[20:27] <K_Nine> ety:  you need macromedia flash
[20:28] <stradivarius> hi! i've got a problem: i have a new pc and  i can't configure my network (no ethernet  card found). My motherboard is an asus p5b-e and ethernet is integrated. Which module could i use? If someone could give an idea..,that would be fine.
[20:28] <kapace> soundray: alright sounds good :D
[20:28] <pike_> stradivarius: better luck searching ubuntuforums.org id say. worst case you spend 6 bucks on a nic
[20:28] <danand> TeMagic - i8kutils may only work for inspiron and latitude laptops :( - what model did you say you had again?
[20:28] <usr13_> stradivarius: lspci   tell us what NIC you have.
[20:28] <TeMagic> m1330... but i8kutils for windows works with my laptop...
[20:29] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ok
[20:29] <palomer> hello
[20:29] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: theyre in my temp at the moment, should i move them from there
[20:29] <TeMagic> but how do I run the program after having downloaded it... I have no idea
[20:29] <databridge>  i have problems with obexftp and bluetooth
[20:29] <databridge>  it do not list the folders or anything on my mobile
[20:29] <databridge>  but i can transfer something
[20:29] <soundray> kapace: advance hint: the file /boot/grub/menu.lst determines what's on the grub menu. It has a commented sample entry for Windows, too.
[20:29] <databridge> gnome vfs works
[20:29] <databridge> over nautilus
[20:29] <FloodBot1> databridge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <usr13_> TeMagic: What program did you download?
[20:29] <MrObvious> !alternate
[20:29] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[20:29] <TeMagic> i8kutils
[20:29] <frawfraw> my wired network card just stops working after too much data transfer... help!
[20:30] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, yes copy the folders to your home directory... normally you don't keep software there but they are small it is easier this way...
[20:30] <usr13_> TeMagic: What are you wanting to do?
[20:30] <poningru> frawfraw: huh?
[20:30] <palomer> I just bought an acer M5100 and im trying to install ubuntu. it has an integrated ati x1250. when I start the installer, strange stuff appears and then it says "Display Server has been shutdown 6 times in last 90 seconds". what should I do?
[20:30] <TeMagic> control the fans of my laptop
[20:30] <poningru> frawfraw: did you just try rebooting?
[20:30] <TeMagic> hey'r spinning too much all the time
[20:30] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, cut and paste like windows
[20:30] <poningru> frawfraw: or you can reload the driver for it
[20:30] <stradivarius> ok, usr13, i'm going to see
[20:30] <frawfraw> poningru: yes, but it is a recurring problem.. something is wrong
[20:30] <kapace> soundray: ok, but i have another problem now, :|
[20:30] <kapace> i can't have my CD, hD1, and hd2 altogether at once
[20:30] <soundray> kapace: ask the channel. I may have to skip away at short notice
[20:31] <frawfraw> poningru: if I copy files from my old pc, it craps out... if I try to download a 2 gig torrent, it craps out... i dont know what to do
[20:31] <kapace> i don't have enough power molex things
[20:31] <usr13_> TeMagic: i8kutils
[20:31] <danand> TeMagic - are you sure you installed the package correctly - try sudo apt-get -s install i8kutils in a terminal and take a look at the output
[20:31] <unagi> ive lost my backlight
[20:31] <frawfraw> poningru: how do I reload the driver?
[20:31] <unagi> is there a command to get it back'
[20:31] <TeMagic> danand:  I used synaptics... but I'll try your suggestion
[20:31] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ok, brb
[20:32] <usr13_> TeMagic: Try man i8kutils
[20:32] <usr13_> TeMagic: man i8kutils
[20:32] <palomer> the same thing happens if I boot in safe graphics mode
[20:32] <TeMagic> sudo apt-get -s install i8kutils gave me newest version allready installed
[20:32] <TeMagic> man i8kutils said no manuals
[20:33] <Gibb> whats the ipconfig command for linux?
[20:33] <frawfraw> ifconfig
[20:33] <Gibb> thx
[20:33] <danand> TeMagic - man i8kctl
[20:33] <usr13_> TeMagic: Look for new items in the Applications menu
[20:33] <TeMagic> ahhh... something happened
[20:33] <Ltlbgr67> Is there a way to see and cancel jobs waiting to be printed?  Any Help  :-)
[20:33] <usr13_> Ltlbgr67: lpq
[20:34] <TeMagic> I looked trought the applications menu... nothing there... but man i8kctl did something... I'll have a look... I'll post an update
[20:34] <Ltlbgr67> from terminal? Newbie here
[20:34] <danand> TeMagic - :)
[20:34] <usr13_> TeMagic: Very good.
[20:35] <neverblue> AsakuroX, get it sorted out ?
[20:35] <neverblue> ah, hes gone
[20:36] <Do0zman> Hello people new user here having some isses with install
[20:36] <rsk> ok
[20:36] <TeMagic> nah... I get an error. can'topen /proc/i8k
[20:36] <Ltlbgr67> Is there a way to cancel the print job?
[20:36] <compy> anyone use gparted?
[20:36] <TeMagic> any other programs to control fans?
[20:36] <danand> TeMagic - try typing "which i8kctl" in a terminal (without the quotes)
[20:36] <Do0zman>  trying to load up with the general install and it will load through the slider while loading teh live cd a few time then it just stops. any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:37] <frawfraw> how can I figure out why my internet stops working?
[20:37] <TeMagic> (usr/bin/i8kctl
[20:37] <usr13_> TeMagic: Did you look at what you have installed yet?
[20:37] <compy> frawfraw, wireless or wire?
[20:37] <danand> TeMagic - hold one - you may need to modprobe i8k...something...
[20:37] <TeMagic> usr13: there's nothing in the application menu
[20:38] <frawfraw> compy: wired
[20:38] <MrPockets_> I'm running a dual boot on this machine. XP on my 320 gig sATA, and Ubuntu on my 80 IDE
[20:38] <usr13_> frawfraw: ifconfig
[20:38] <MrPockets_> but if i have to reinstall XP
[20:38] <MrPockets_> will that fuck up the boot loader?
[20:38] <shade052> Do0zman: are you on amd?
[20:38] <compy> frawfraw, hmm not sure i use wireless and i had problems with nm-applet so i went to wicd
[20:38] <usr13_> frawfraw: Call your ISP
[20:38] <compy> yeah probally your service
[20:39] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: im back, ive moved the files from my temp directory
[20:39] <frawfraw> usr13_: well, it works... but then during huge transfers it craps out... even if it
[20:39] <chris062689> Hello. :)
[20:39] <sev____> Hi all
[20:39] <frawfraw> usr13: is a slow transfer like a torrent
[20:39] <deahtihs> i go to an online school via k12.com and the flash doesn't work. it loads, i login, (login page is php), then it loads and it's flash but then i just end up with a large white page
[20:39] <deahtihs> and other flash sites work like......... youtube
[20:39] <chris062689> !flash
[20:39] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[20:39] <usr13_> frawfraw: What are you downloading?
[20:39] <danand> TeMagic - try sudo modprobe i8* and see what the output is
[20:39] <frawfraw> usr13_: its not my service.. because the windows box works fine.. and always has worked fine.  if i dl a torrent or transfer files from the windows box, the result is the same.
[20:40] <usr13_> frawfraw: Ane what client application are you using to download the files.
[20:40] <sev____> Guys, shouldn't Ubuntu users manually install Code::Blocks nightly builds? They are installed automaticly trough update manager am I right?
[20:40] <frawfraw> usr13_: nautilus, scp, azeurus... always the same.. it works fine then craps out.  i even changed network cards to one that i know works in linux boxes
[20:40] <TeMagic> module i8* not found
[20:41] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, ok the files you double click on to run are   yourhome/Songbird/songbird     and   yourhome/flock/flock       you will probably want to setup a launcher on your desktop to run them easier..  give them a try then I can help you with that
[20:41] <usr13_> frawfraw: what are you downloading?  An iso image, or what?
[20:41] <danand> TeMagic - hmmm....
[20:41] <frawfraw> usr13_: some files from the old computer, mp3s, movies, whichever...  its just unreliable
[20:42] <Boglizk> How do i set .torrents to be opened with Transmission by default?
[20:42] <h6mi1007> hello
[20:42] <danand> TeMagic - try sudo modprobe i8k and see what happens - no implied warrenty for use of that suggestion ... etc :)
[20:43] <danand> *warranty!
[20:43] <usr13_> frawfraw: So, it's not the internet that stops working, it is a problem on your LAN, right?
[20:43] <TeMagic> sudo apt-get -s install i8kutils
[20:43] <TeMagic> sorry
[20:43] <frawfraw> usr13_: it doesnt matter if its a big file, or lots of small files... a fast dl like network transfer or a slow dl like a torrent... just after a while it stops working.
[20:43] <TeMagic> wrong texrt
[20:43] <frawfraw> usr13_: not a lan problem, the network still works fine
[20:43] <TeMagic> FATAL: Error inserting i8k (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko): No such device
[20:43] <jason_> soundray i got that package installed now
[20:44] <jason_> what was the sudo comand>?
[20:44] <danand> TeMagic - :( oh oh!!
[20:44] <usr13_> frawfraw: Are you downloading these files across the LAN or from trhe WAN?
[20:44] <TeMagic> danand:  no good?
[20:44] <sev____> To make file hidden, chmod x file. x-?
[20:44] <Ballena> which is the standard MTA in ubuntu?
[20:44] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: flock opens up text, and songbird fails to load properly, i think
[20:45] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: what did you mean by set up a launcher on the desktop? sorry to be a noob
[20:45] <Cpudan80> How can I check the repos to see if there is an updated version of something I run?
[20:45] <Tygir> i have a dell inspiron 1525...i always seem to loose my wireless signal...i have it for a little while...then it seems to drop the signal...i have the encryption set to WEP...if that helps at all?
[20:45] <pike_> SexyJames1337: to make a file hidden mv file .file
[20:45] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: also, should i install vlc, as thats a useful program... i think i should be able to work that one out
[20:45] <usr13_> frawfraw: Are you downloading these files across the LAN or the WAN?
[20:46] <paule118> remote:/
[20:46] <pike_> sev____: oops^
[20:46] <paule118> wwwwwwwww
[20:46] <danand> TeMagic - I have looked on my system - that module you need is on my system under /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko - take a look to see if you can find it!
[20:46] <paule118> wwwwwwww
[20:46] <frawfraw2> usr13_: sorry, i
[20:46] <paule118> ßßßß0ßßßßßßßßß00000000000´´´´
[20:46] <neverblue> pauldy, can we help you ?
[20:46] <frawfraw2> usr13_: sorry, i am back, I had to switch to wireless, because my back was killing me
[20:46] <paule118> ßßßßßßßß??????????
[20:46] <neverblue> seems like a key is stuck on your keyboard :D
[20:46] <usr13_> frawfraw: Are you downloading these files across the LAN or the WAN?
[20:46] <chris062689> Does the Abobe Flash plugin at the Adobe site work with Ubuntu?
[20:47] <paule118> 111111111
[20:47] <frawfraw2> usr13_: torrents over wan, file transfer over lan
[20:47] <paule118> 222222222222
[20:47] <usr13_> frawfraw2: And they both fail?
[20:47] <frawfraw2> usr13_: both cases crap out the network card... just takes longer in the torrent case
[20:47] <Tygir> chris062689: yes, you can get it from the repo
[20:47] <chris062689> I thought the repo was broken...
[20:47] <TeMagic> danand:  yes it's there
[20:47] <frawfraw2> usr13_: and if I leave the pc on for a few days and do no network stuff, its still ok
[20:47] <bascule> paule118: you are alive!
[20:47] <Flare183> !flashissues | frawfraw2
[20:47] <ubotu> frawfraw2: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[20:48] <chris062689> The repo is broken, right
[20:48] <chris062689> Exactly. :P
[20:48] <paule118> 1278 USER ????????????????
[20:48] <frawfraw2> ubotu: häh?
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about häh? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <Tygir> could anyone help me figure out why i keep loosing my wireless signal?
[20:48] <chris062689> ubotu: bot
[20:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:48] <Flare183> frawfraw2: ubotu is a bot
[20:48] <usr13_> frawfraw2: What is your network configuration?  What routers or switches or hubs are you using?
[20:48] <chris062689> ubotu: eeexubuntu
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eeexubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, a launcher is like a shortcut with an icon..  if it is opening as text then we should use that
[20:48] <danand> TeMagic - thats good that its there - bad that the kernel won't load it!
[20:48] <frawfraw2> ubotu: mute
[20:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mute - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:48] <paule118> 1279USER ????????????????
[20:48] <danbhfive> !askthebot
[20:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:48] <softwork> hi, how i change in aspell language to spell??
[20:49] <rsk> sure paule118 :)
[20:49] <Flare183> !botabuse | frawfraw2
[20:49] <ubotu> frawfraw2: please see above
[20:49] <danand> TeMagic - Just to double check - sudo modprobe i8k
[20:49] <paule118> thanls
[20:49] <softwork> hi, how i change in aspell language to check?? i use english idiom for system but i need to check language PT-pt
[20:49] <paule118> thanks
[20:49] <frawfraw2> usr13_: you mean the router?  a zyxel prestige 600
[20:49] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, yes VLC is good if you have problems but the default video player is good because it's better at skipping forward/back when you drag the bar in real time.. VLC skips when you let go it anoys me.
[20:50] <frawfraw2> usr13_: but all the same activities work fine on the windowz box
[20:50] <paule118> sss
[20:50] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ah, i see
[20:50] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, if you click on a file that needs codecs ubuntu will automatically get them for you ... you might need the password
[20:50] <neverblue> serenityUK, u can set the hot keys in VLC
[20:51] <prakriti> anybody here use kiba-dock?
[20:51] <neverblue> !anyone | prakriti
[20:51] <ubotu> prakriti: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:51] <prakriti> hehe, nice
[20:51] <prakriti> thanks neverblue
[20:51] <softwork> hi, how i change in aspell language to check?? i use english idiom for system but i need to check language PT-pt
[20:51] <Tygir> !wireless | tygir
[20:51] <Tygir> nothing?
[20:51] <Tygir> dang....i can connect to my router, then over time it seems that i loose the signal...any ideas?
[20:51] <serenityUK> neverblue, yes but you know what i mean with the progress bar thingy?  when you drag in totem it moves in realtime... VLC and WMP etc you have to let go to jump to part of a film
[20:51] <neverblue> prakriti, please keep it to one line, thanks
[20:51] <TeMagic> danand:  sudo modprobe i8k force=1 worked
[20:51] <turbocueca> Hello people, can someone help me in what concers seeing movies with ubuntu
[20:51] <TeMagic> now what?
[20:51] <neverblue> serenityUK, yes, I know what you mean
[20:52] <usr13_> frawfraw2: What NIC are you using?
[20:52] <paule118> wer345
[20:52] <frawfraw2> usr13_: how can I find out the exact specs?
[20:52] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, what happend with songbird?
[20:52] <neverblue> turbocueca, ask away, keeping the question on one line, thanks
[20:52] <danand> TeMagic - :) Ok - now try lsmod and see if i8k is there
[20:52] <prakriti> anyway...  So does anybody know how to make the notification area in kiba-dock have a transperent backgroun?
[20:52] <usr13_> frawfraw2: lspci
[20:52] <turbocueca> The problem is that when I open a avi/mpg or any other video file, it just shows a green screen with some pink pixeis, no matter what player I use....
[20:52] <turbocueca> neverblue, right
[20:53] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: i originally didnt extract it properly, i apologise
[20:53] <frawfraw2> Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 191 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 02)
[20:53] <frawfraw2> but that sounds wrong.. its a 3com something
[20:53] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: i can open the files and it asks if i should open it in terminal, should i do that?
[20:53] <prakriti> I have seen screenshots of tray areas on kiba-dock where the icons were nice and pretty looking and not on a gray blob
[20:53] <serenityUK> click run
[20:53] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ethtool eth0
[20:53] <frawfraw2> usr13_: one sec
[20:53] <palomer> I have 3 gigs of ram
[20:53] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ethtool eth1
[20:53] <palomer> do I really need a swap partition?
[20:54] <danand> TeMagic - lsmod | grep i8k ??
[20:54] <TeMagic> danand:  yes it is
[20:54] <frawfraw2> usr13_: "no such device"
[20:54] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ethtool eth0
[20:54] <frawfraw2> usr13_: eth0 -- "no such device"
[20:54] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ifconfig
[20:54] <soundray> palomer: yes.
[20:54] <danand> TeMagic - your i8k module is loaded??
[20:54] <frawfraw2> eth1 -- "operation not permitted"
[20:54] <TeMagic> danand:  yes
[20:55] <usr13_> frawfraw2: sudo  ethtool eth0
[20:55] <softwork> hi, how i change in aspell language to check?? i use english idiom for system but i need to check language PT-pt
[20:55] <danand> TeMagic - cool - now try ls /proc/i8k
[20:55] <BwackNinja> palomer: its always a good idea, but if you worry about having too many partitions, especially in a dual boot situation, you don't need it
[20:55] <TheFishy> I installed arch on my gaming machine and used ubuntu for gaming on a different computer... I learned very quickly that wine and multi-platform games will not hold a true gamers crave for fun.
[20:55] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: ok, it looks like i installed songbird, it installed quite easily.
[20:55] <soundray> palomer: you need a 3GB one if you want to be able to hibernate. Also, it's good to have one to avoid programs crashing due to out-of-memory conditions (which happen even on 3GB systems)
[20:55] <frawfraw2> usr13_: sudo ethtool eth0 - no such device
[20:55] <TeMagic> danand:  nothing happened
[20:55] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: flock however, i clicked run and nothing happened
[20:55] <frawfraw2> usr13_: sudo ethtool eth1 - gives information but nothing specific
[20:55] <sanozuke> hey
[20:56] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ifconfig
[20:56] <danand> TeMagic - uh oh!
[20:56] <palomer> BwackNinja: thanks!
[20:56] <paule118> 1278 USER ????????????????
[20:56] <Sarloth> paule118: 1281
[20:56] <TeMagic> it just says /proc/i8k on a new line in the terminal
[20:56] <Flare183> paule118: that includes you
[20:56] <frawfraw2> usr13_: ifconfig shows eth1 and lo.  eth1 says nothing about the net card... but it shows my ip and proper behaviour
[20:57] <danand> TeMagic - Thats GOOD - it means its there :)
[20:57] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, the first time it takes a second then it pops up a wizard which asks if you want to import your firefox bookmarks?
[20:57] <frawfraw2> usr13_: sorry... nothing SPECIFIC about the net card
[20:57] <Tyczek> Do you know if there is package for mpd (including aac support?)
[20:57] <usr13_> frawfraw2: So, I wonder what happened to eth0?
[20:57] <Sarloth> frawfraw2: did you try iwconfig?
[20:57] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ifconfig eth0
[20:57] <Flare183> !who | Tyczek
[20:57] <ubotu> Tyczek: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:57] <ompaul> !test
[20:57] <ubotu> Failed.
[20:57] <ompaul> %test
[20:57] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, not run in terminal    run on the right
[20:57] <TeMagic> danand:  all right... so far so good then?
[20:57] <frawfraw2> usr13_: eth0 might be the onboard network card, which didnt work under ubuntu
[20:57] <usr13_> Sarloth: He said it is a wired connection.
[20:57] <danand> TeMagic - try cat /proc/i8k - see what happens
[20:58] <Flare183> wow
[20:58] <Tyczek> Flare183, I'm asking whole channel ;)
[20:58] <frawfraw2> usr13_: ifconfig eht0 "error fetching device info"
[20:58] <Flare183> Tyczek: that's ok just saying
[20:58] <Sarloth> usr12_: ah
[20:58] <TeMagic> 1.0 A07 6QKP53J 56 -22 2 27660 130560 -1 -22
[20:59] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: yeh, im pressing just Run, but nothing happens, strange.
[20:59] <ompaul> TeMagic, ?
[20:59] <usr13_> frawfraw2: what did lspci say?
[20:59] <Flare183> TeMagic: what the mess?
[20:59] <TeMagic> cat /proc/i8k
[20:59] <danand> TeMagic - cracked it :) Try typing i8kctl in a terminal
[20:59] <Flare183> TeMagic: wha?
[20:59] <usr13_> frawfraw2: lspci -vv
[20:59] <usr13_> frawfraw2: Should list two NICs
[20:59] <frawfraw2> usr13_: Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30)
[20:59] <TeMagic> Flare183:  a reply to danadns question... I forgot to add the nick first, sorry
[20:59] <danand> Flare183 - output of cat /proc/i8k :)
[21:00] <soundray> ompaul, Flare183: TeMagic was answering danand's question
[21:00] <daugustine_> is there an ubuntu help with networking or irc channel?
[21:00] <Flare183> oh ok gotcha
[21:00] <frawfraw2> usr13_: and Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 191 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 02)
[21:00] <usr13_> frawfraw2: Is that the onbard one or the ....
[21:00] <shade052> SexyJames1337: do you have any graphics related restricted drivers on your comp? if so have you installed them? may be it will help!
[21:00] <frawfraw2> usr13_: so the 3com is the pci
[21:00] <Flare183> daugustine_: ask here my friend
[21:00] <TeMagic> danand:  1.0 (null) 6QKP53J 55 -1 2 27660 130560 0 -1
[21:01] <usr13_> frawfraw2: So you are connected via the 3com ?
[21:01] <paladin_> is there a console image viewer?
[21:01] <frawfraw2> usr13_: yea
[21:01] <daugustine_> okay, well the issue is, is that after so long, irc will kinda flake out, and I won't be able to connect to any irc servers
[21:01] <soundray> paladin_: zgv (requires svgalib)
[21:01] <daugustine_> if i reboot, I'm fine
[21:01] <TeMagic> danand:  but here's the good part, after having loaded the i8k using modprobe force=1, my fan is spinning much slower:) Dunno why.....
[21:01] <ompaul> daugustine_, you should not have to reboot, if you are loosing your lease in dhcp you will fall off irc for about 20 mins
[21:02] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, maybe if you run it by typing it will print some error msg...  open a terminal Applications->Accessories->Terminal  and  type  ./flock/flock     if you put the flock folder in home
[21:02] <chris710> can you help me?gdesklets doesn't work with compiz...
[21:02] <ompaul> daugustine_, or forever depending on the client
[21:02] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: sorry, my internet died there
[21:02] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: im back
[21:02] <daugustine_> ompaul, is there anyway to prevent that from happening?
[21:03] <blizzkid> does anyone know of a Mailman alternative that can be installed without having to be root? (on a shared hosting)
[21:03] <danand> TeMagic - ok :) that means its working. Use man i8kctl or i8kfan to see how to control your fans - In order to use the i8kutils every time you boot, you need to add the line i8k to your /etc/modules file - just not sure how to do that force=1 from within there though - you may want to ask the others about that
[21:03] <sharperguy> can anyone help me get my GLX extension back?
[21:03] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: as i was saying, the flock file is a shell script whereas the songbird file was an executable, so have i got the right one?
[21:03] <Xtrato> Could anyone here help me with a (hopefully) small problem im having with installing ubuntu :) ?
[21:03] <Flare183> !ask | Xtrato
[21:03] <ubotu> Xtrato: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:03] <ompaul> daugustine_, it is up to whatever leases your ip to you
[21:03] <Tobias92> Dear ubuntu people, this is rather odd: Whether I use totem, vlc or mplayer, the video always shows as a pink screen that doesn't change, while my video drivers are installed correctly. What could cause this
[21:03] <TeMagic> so, my bluetooth mouse is fixed and my fan is spinning slower... though I do not have direct control, I'm happy... I'll see if it's working after a reboot,
[21:03] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, i think the script runs the binary for you
[21:03] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, maybe if you run it by typing it will print some error msg...  open a terminal Applications->Accessories->Terminal  and  type  ./flock/flock     if you put the flock folder in home
[21:04] <TeMagic> if not, I'll add i8k to /etc/modules
[21:04] <TeMagic> thanks for the help
[21:04] <TeMagic> much appriciated
[21:04] <Flare183> Tobias92: compiz maybe
[21:04] <ompaul> !codecs | Tobias92 (about 90% certain this is the problem)
[21:04] <ubotu> Tobias92 (about 90% certain this is the problem): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:04] <Flare183> Tobias92: that is if you are using that
[21:04] <danand> TeMagic - remember to ask about that force=1 option
[21:04] <soundray> Tobias92: not sure, but try another output plugin with mplayer. Get a list with 'mplayer -vo help'
[21:04] <shade052> blizzkid: you have to be root to install ANYTHING!!
[21:04] <danand> TeMagic - No problem
[21:04] <ompaul> !root | shade052
[21:04] <ubotu> shade052: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:04] <usr13_> frawfraw2: modprobe sis190
[21:04] <daugustine_> ompaul, in my router, Client Lease Time is set to 86400 s, would changing that help
[21:04] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, it's only a fancy web browser anyway.. Firefox is fine but it's cool if you use social websites like YouTube, flickr, de.licio.us, facebook etc.. you add your accounts and have them integrated into the browser, plus the interface is much nicer
[21:04] <chris710> how can i install widgets with compiz because it doesn't work with gdesklets?
[21:04] <usr13_> frawfraw2: sudo modprobe sis190
[21:04] <Tobias92> Flare183, they worked correctly before :(
[21:04] <ompaul> !rootsudo | blizzkid
[21:04] <ubotu> blizzkid: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:05] <blizzkid> shade052, that's utter nonsense
[21:05] <TeMagic> danand:  Yes, I will.... thank you! :æ9 bye bye
[21:05] <usr13_> frawfraw2: lspci | grep  sis190
[21:05] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: oh right. well there are instructions on the site, so im going to attempt to follow them
[21:05] <usr13_> frawfraw2: lspci | grep  sis19
[21:05] <sharperguy> ubotu, I know you're a bot but I really have to complain about that matrix reference
[21:05] <blizzkid> ompaul, I can't use sudo on the shared hosting
[21:05] <Flare183> Tobias92: then it could be your video card or maybe your videos's cards memory
[21:05] <frawfraw2> usr13_: nothing at all happens
[21:05] <usr13_> frawfraw2: locate sis19
[21:06] <Tobias92> Flare183 and soundray, it works with opengl2 output, thanks :)
[21:06] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, do you want to setup a shortcut for Songbird then you can do it for flock later if you get it running?
[21:06] <Flare183> Tobias92: no problem
[21:06] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$ locate sis19
[21:06] <Xtrato> Basicly im having what seems to be a common problem with the ubuntu install. an error message appears when i select to start or install ubuntu that says "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" Ive looked for solutions and theres a command i need to input but im not sure where as i only have a few options that i can do from the disk.
[21:06] <prakriti> fd0?
[21:06] <chris710> who can help me? PLEASE
[21:06] <prakriti> try disabling your floppy
[21:06] <prakriti> in the bios
[21:06] <frawfraw2> -/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/include/config/sis190.h
[21:06] <Flare183> fdo = floppy drive
[21:07] <frawfraw2> -/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sis190.ko
[21:07] <ompaul> blizzkid, I think the installing on shared hosting is more the issue than anything else
[21:07] <Flare183> fd0 = floppy drive (correction)
[21:07] <frawfraw2> usr13_: and thats it
[21:07] <Flare183> brb
[21:07] <Xtrato> I have disabled the floppy device from the BIOS allready and it still occours
[21:07] <sharperguy> can anyone help me get my GLX extension back? I have nvidia-glx installed and running but nothing will work. I think this has been happening since I installed and removed KDE4
[21:07] <usr13_> frawfraw2: sudo modprobe sis190
[21:07] <blizzkid> ompaul, no, things like joomla or even mediawiki don't require root or sudo rights
[21:07] <chemist`> j #compiz-fusion
[21:07] <chris710> pleeeeeeeease help me!
[21:07] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe sis190
[21:07] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$
[21:07] <ompaul> !ask | chris710
[21:07] <frawfraw2> usr13_: so nothing happens
[21:07] <ubotu> chris710: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:08] <usr13_> frawfraw2: lspci | grep sis190
[21:08] <tyrone> Hi everyone why can't I play videos with Totem while running compiz
[21:08] <tyrone> ?
[21:08] <Erik1> got video-hassles with etch2. question: is ubuntu good for web development (apache-localhost/php4-5,mysql,eclipse) ?
[21:08] <Flare183> !patience | chris710
[21:08] <usr13_> frawfraw2: ifconfig eth0
[21:08] <ubotu> chris710: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:08] <overclucker> desklets needs a lot more work before i will use them
[21:08] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$ lspci | grep sis190
[21:08] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$
[21:08] <soundray> Erik1: at least as good as etch, I'd say
[21:08] <Flare183> frawfraw2: that is enought of that
[21:08] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$ ifconfig eth0
[21:08] <frawfraw2> eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[21:08] <frawfraw2> nibbles@nibbles-desktop:~$
[21:08] <Flare183> !paste | frawfraw2
[21:08] <ubotu> frawfraw2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:08] <Erik1> soundray: you experienced in this field, if I may ask ?
[21:08] <usr13_> frawfraw2: sudo insmod sis190
[21:08] <frawfraw2> Flare183: huh?
[21:09] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, ok i have a theory about Flock if you are there?
[21:09] <chris710> ubotu>i have already write the question...but i'll write it again...so can you help me to install desklets(or widgets) in compiz because it doesn't work?
[21:09] <overclucker> chris710: is there a specific task you want widgets to accomplish?
[21:10] <Flare183> chris710: ubotu is a bot
[21:10] <tyrone> Hi everyone why can't I play videos with Totem while running compiz?
[21:10] <Flare183> frawfraw2: use the pastebin
[21:10] <chris710> i want to install my widgets,when i want to install them with gdesklets,it doesn't do nothing...
[21:10] <turbocueca> Hello, can someone quickly take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4250695 and tell me a solution, Thanks.
[21:10] <daugustine_> another question
[21:10] <Flare183> !compiz | tyrone (ask in here first then in #ubuntu)
[21:10] <Flare183> tyrone: in there*
[21:10] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: bah, i thought i had sorted it there
[21:10] <daugustine_> when I go to Places -> Connect to Server and enter my stuff correctly, it doesn't show up on the Desktop like it's supposed to
[21:10] <soundray> Erik1: web development? Not very. But given that Ubuntu accesses pretty much the same software as etch, with a slight edge as regards timeliness, I'd predict that you'd fare well. See also factoids (private message)
[21:11] <mg> hi, anyone using brasero to copy dvd's?
[21:11] <daugustine_> but then if I login logut, it will be there
[21:11] <sharperguy> can anyone help me get my GLX extension back? I have nvidia-glx installed and running but nothing will work. I think this has been happening since I installed and removed KDE4.
[21:11] <soundray> !lamp > Erik1
[21:11]  * Flare183 says slow bot
[21:11] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: i used gedit to make a shortcut to it, and it displayed ok. you click it and it says "starting flock" in the taskbar but then nothing happens.
[21:11] <ubotu> tyrone (ask in here first then in #ubuntu): Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:11] <tyrone> turbocueca, I think we have the same problem
[21:11]  * Flare183 says finallly
[21:11] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: it just closes. do i maybe need to dl something to make it work?
[21:11] <soundray> !info eclipse > Erik1
[21:11] <usr13_> frawfraw2:  You have an interesting problem and would like to troubleshoot further, but am out of time for now, I have to move to another computer and do other stuff for while.
[21:12] <frawfraw2> well fuck that shit
[21:12] <tyrone> turbocueca, are you running compiz?
[21:12]  * overclucker pets slowbotu on the head
[21:12] <Flare183> !language > frawfraw2
[21:12] <JFactor> Can anyone help me with my S-Video problem?
[21:12] <danand> !language > frawfraw2
[21:12] <turbocueca> tyrone, I've been, but disabled it and the problem persists
[21:12] <turbocueca> tyrone, I disabled.. well, called metacity --replace
[21:12] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: well, im off for a shower now. thankyou for all your help so far
[21:13] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, i think you were right about the script thing..  you might need to make it executable because it was zipped up...  try right-click on the small flock file and choose Properties, then on permissions tab tick the box that says Execute: allow executing file as program
[21:13] <tyrone> turbocueca, have you installed the w32 codecs?
[21:13] <turbocueca> yes
[21:13] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: will do.
[21:13] <turbocueca> tyrone, yes
[21:13] <umair> hello everyone can anyone please be nice enough to help me out
[21:13] <umair> :(
[21:13] <serenityUK> SexyJames1337, for most other software just use add/remove programs .... cya later
[21:13] <tyrone> turbocueca, and the gstreamer codecs?
[21:13] <turbocueca> tyrone, I've been playing movies on ubuntu and this only occurrs sometimes
[21:13] <ompaul> SeVeN, stop changing your nick thanks
[21:13] <Flare183> !ask | umair
[21:13] <ubotu> umair: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:13] <FIFI123> bonjour
[21:13] <Flare183> !fr | FIFI123
[21:13] <ubotu> FIFI123: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:13] <overclucker> chris710: have you checked ubuntuforums for your problem?
[21:14] <turbocueca> tyrone, If I restart X, I can play the videos without any problem
[21:14] <Gigamo> !nl
[21:14] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[21:14] <turbocueca> tyrone, however right now that's not possible
[21:14] <soundray> umair: you need to ask a question and repeat if necessary, giving it about 10 minutes
[21:14] <chris710> overlucker>no
[21:14] <turbocueca> tyrone, gstreamer is ready too
[21:14] <tyrone> turbocueca, ok i am sorry i can not help you man ask someone else
[21:14] <umair> ok dudes im behind a uni lan proxy and i use vista and the get connected to internet without any problem but when i move to ubuntu it always says proxy server refusing connection
[21:14] <JFactor> Does anyone know how to get a TV out over s-video to composite line, on an old television, with Ubuntu Gutsy and a Nvidia 6150 graphics card?
[21:14] <turbocueca> tyrone, ok
[21:14] <turbocueca> Hello, can someone quickly take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4250695 and tell me a solution, Thanks.
[21:14] <umair> although my proxy is the same in both firefox
[21:14] <SexyJames1337> serenityUK: the box was already ticked unfortunately. see you in a bit
[21:14] <turbocueca> tyrone, thanks anyway
[21:14] <Xtrato> I have disabled the floppy drive (even though i dont have one) from the boot priority list in BIOS and im still getting the "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" Error.
[21:14] <soundray> !tvout > JFactor, please read the private message from ubotu
[21:15] <chris710> overlucker>i don't like forums...
[21:15] <daugustine_> Okay, I'll do it in one line this time, my problem is that I go to Place -> Connect to Server, I put in my stuff to connect, but it won't show up on the desktop, I then logout and login, and then it will be on the desktop, any idea what the issue could be?
[21:15] <JFactor> soundray: thanks I will check that out
[21:15] <sharperguy> can anyone help me get my GLX extension back? I have nvidia-glx installed and running but glxgears for example says I have no GLX extension. I think this has been happening since I installed and removed KDE4.
[21:15] <soundray> Xtrato: look through the BIOS setup again and see if you can disable it from the device list as well
[21:15] <confrey> hi everybody
[21:16] <iNeo> umair: I think you have to authenticate to the proxy
[21:16] <MasterAslan> Hi,  If I run all the updates from the live cd system and install will it install with the updates already in place?
[21:16] <umair> people plz help me out i just installed ubuntu 7.10 and im behind a proxy server so when i try to log on my internet firefox says proxy server refusing connection
[21:16] <umair> it doesnt need authentication
[21:16] <overclucker> chris710: well, i didn't say you had to post on them, but if you tried a broad search of gdesklets there, you might find an answer
[21:16] <soundray> sharperguy: do a 'grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. Is the last line "Driver "nvidia"'?
[21:16] <umair> i have used it in win for about a year and im dead sure no authentication is needed
[21:16] <unagi> if you restart X and u have a file open, is that file still open somewhere or is it lost
[21:17] <sharperguy> soundray, yep
[21:17] <iNeo> umair: Then why is it refusing connection?
[21:17] <umair> im talking from my win installation right now i dont know why on ubuntu the proxy server refuses connection
[21:17] <MasterAslan> umair: have you put the proxy settings in?  is it a transparent proxy?
[21:17] <chris710> overlucker>i tried to search but i didn't find nothing....
[21:17] <umair> i dont know another guy here uses it and he has the same problem
[21:17] <umair> i have put in the proxy settings as i did for windows
[21:17] <MrPink_> hey, how can I access the network via Bash?  So I can find computers in the built in Network manager, but would like to do it via console
[21:17] <overclucker> chris710: personally, i found gdesklets mildly disapointing
[21:17] <soundray> sharperguy: and is the nvidia kernel module loaded? (lsmod | grep nvidia)
[21:18] <Dukan_Studying> hi
[21:18] <iNeo> Is the Vista client part of a Windows AD domain?
[21:18] <OshaMaHUe> hi
[21:18] <turbocueca> tyrone, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4170071
[21:18] <Flare183> !winidows > iNeo
[21:18] <sharperguy> soundray, yeah I think that said it was
[21:18] <Flare183> !windows > iNeo
[21:18] <danand> umair - have you had a look at adding the proxy settings for your network manually in firefox??
[21:18] <umair> i did that
[21:18] <turbocueca> tyrone,wow
[21:19] <soundray> sharperguy: does glxinfo indicate glx not working?
[21:19] <umair> i added em manually it doesnt detect them automatically
[21:19] <turbocueca> tyrone quite simple
[21:19] <umair> neither does it in windows do that
[21:19] <scotty> !windows
[21:19] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[21:19] <sharperguy> soundray, yep
[21:19] <scotty> There's a windows room?
[21:19] <scotty> On freenode?
[21:19] <Flare183> scotty: yeap
[21:19] <scotty> Huh.
[21:19] <turbocueca> tyrone, If someone asks again tell him to press ctrl-alt-f1, then only alt-f7
[21:19] <scotty> That is all.
[21:19] <Cpudan80> scotty: Yes
[21:19] <_elemental> Voice by subscription
[21:19] <turbocueca> tyrone, it will not restart anything, just correct the problem
[21:19] <Flare183> Cpudan80: what's up i didn't see u come in here
[21:19] <Cpudan80> Hello Flare183
[21:19] <MrPink_> hey, how can I access the network via Bash? So I can find computers in the built in Network manager, but would like to do it via console
[21:19] <confrey> I'm crazy about gutsy
[21:20] <tyrone> turbocueca, cool man :) thks
[21:20] <iNeo> scotty: What if MS works and Ubuntu not?  where to ask the quest?
[21:20] <confrey> I've installed it more and more
[21:20] <ikonia> iNeo: wask the question
[21:20] <umair> dudes please i need help help me out
[21:20] <umair> !ask
[21:20] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:20] <danand> scotty - umair was asking a question about ubuntu!
[21:20] <soundray> sharperguy: do you want to put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on a pastebin for me to look at?
[21:20] <ikonia> umair: ask the question then
[21:20] <sharperguy> soundray, ok
[21:21] <iNeo> umair: has a question regarding proxy that is working on MS and not with Ubuntu
[21:21] <umair> look people i use vista and the proxy connects me to the internet but when i use ubuntu the proxy refuses the connection to firefox
[21:21] <ikonia> umair: does the proxy require authentication ?
[21:21] <umair> ??? what is this i wanna get rid of windows i added both the proxies in windows and ubuntu manually the same settings
[21:21] <danand> umair - phew!! :)
[21:21] <OshaMaHUe> i tried to install my ati video card via envy. but now gnome doesnt load. i havent got any errorr messages. i restored the xorg.conf file but it didnt made any difference. what can i do?
[21:21] <iNeo> umair: It is authentication I am sure
[21:21] <umair> no the proxy does not require authentication
[21:21] <MasterAslan>  If I run all the updates from the live cd system and install will it install with the updates already in place sorry if thats a silly question
[21:21] <umair> no ineo
[21:21] <soundray> !envy | OshaMaHUe
[21:21] <ubotu> OshaMaHUe: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:22] <umair> it does not i live in this hostel from a year i know pretty sure
[21:22] <ikonia> umair: are you certan as a lot of proxy's will authenticate without you knowthing through active directory
[21:22] <SumoBob> what port does the proxy run on?
[21:22] <iNeo> Is the MS client part of the AD?
[21:22] <danand> umair - iNeo - my proxy at uni never required auth either
[21:22] <ikonia> iNeo: yup, you where I am
[21:22] <sharperguy> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54381/
[21:22] <umair> i am very very very sure
[21:22] <Xtrato> Soundray: I have checked the BIOS again and the only place i can see a floppy drive listed is in the boot priority menu. Theres no device list or anything of the sort from what i can see :s
[21:22] <ikonia> danand: how is that relevant ?
[21:22] <palomer> hey guys, I managed to install ubuntu on my system by installing the ati drivers, but ubuntu doesn't work properly. when it starts off, it tries to start the display server many times, without success. then it gives the error message "display server shut down 6 times in 90 seconds". if i type startx, it starts X but theres a floating box that says "input not supported". any suggestions?
[21:23] <ikonia> umair: the first thing to do is telnet to the proxy port and see if you can actually get to it and what it's response is
[21:23] <iNeo> Because Authentication can also be done by workstation account
[21:23] <confrey> can anybody help me? I've installed gutsy on my toshiba laptop, but it doesn't work; after a long time, I have only a bray screen with X cursos
[21:23] <umair> man this is biting my head off i have seen these kind of forums on google but no good enough answer
[21:23] <OshaMaHUe> soundray: it is too late for this i guess :) can i save the system or do i need to reinstall
[21:23] <SumoBob> is the proxy transparent or does it require manual config?
[21:23] <ikonia> umair: telnet to the port on the proxy and see how it responds ?
[21:23] <umair> it requires manual config
[21:23] <iNeo> One other option is, that there is an acces list that uses the MAC address of you ethernet address
[21:23] <umair> 10.2.10.17 8080
[21:24] <umair> no
[21:24] <ikonia> umair: what happens when you telnet to it ?
[21:24] <SumoBob> try 10.2.10.17:8080 with the colon
[21:24] <soundray> sharperguy: that looks fine to me. Sorry I can't help... Ask the channel again, leave about 10min between repetitions please
[21:24] <umair> ofcourse i tried that
[21:24] <umair> :P
[21:24] <ikonia> umair: what happens when you telnet to it ?
[21:24] <MasterAslan> confrey: have you installed from a live cd?
[21:24] <umair> man i heard its only problem with gutsy
[21:24] <umair> ikonia
[21:25] <umair> man i did not telnet im on the shit vista
[21:25] <bobgill> I'm about to tar my /home/user dir for backup... is this right: tar xjcf /home/user home.tgz   ???
[21:25] <Xcell> Xcell: ok! im just started (MV2-MX SE) asus mobo, with via graphics, when in (sys settings) which do i pick?
[21:25] <Xcell> Xcell: to get out of vessa
[21:25] <umair> :( ill have to boot all the way to gutsy
[21:25] <confrey> MasterAslan, no, by alternate cd
[21:25] <umair> and come back
[21:25] <umair> :(
[21:25] <ikonia> umair: 1.) don't use that sort of language, its the best way to get kicked 2.) vista has a telnet client
[21:25] <SumoBob> are you running a firewall on your workstation?
[21:25] <sharperguy> soundray, I think some x-related packages updated themselves when I installed KDE4 from the repo. Is there a way of downgrading the packages installed from a repo?
[21:25] <umair> ikonia
[21:25] <danand> bobgill tar -xjcf /home/user home.tar.bz2
[21:25] <umair> hmm so should i try telnetting through vista
[21:26] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master compared with 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[21:26] <ikonia> umair: do what you want, I don't like your approach or language
[21:26] <bobgill> danand: bz2 is better compression right ???
[21:26] <soundray> OshaMaHUe: you can try to undo the damage that envy has obviously done, but it'll be difficult to get help here. (I'd help if I knew what it was that envy does, but I don't, sorry).
[21:27] <danand> bobgill - yes, i think so
[21:27] <iNeo> ikonia: I agree
[21:27] <soundray> sharperguy: downgrading is next to impossible, sorry
[21:27] <sharperguy> ...
[21:27] <MasterAslan> confrey: try booting with the nolapic noapic parameters or apic=off and see if that works
[21:27] <bobgill> ok thanks
[21:27] <danand> ikonia , iNeo, umair - chill out!
[21:27] <umair> lol very funny hahahaha u dont know nothing anyways i guess linux is bullshit
[21:27] <umair> bye
[21:27] <mrmonday> what app would anyone recommend for converting mp3 files to .ogg?
[21:27] <ikonia> danand: I am very relexed.
[21:27] <OshaMaHUe> soundray thanks
[21:27] <umair> and ikonia u are gay
[21:27] <ikonia> !opts | umair constant bad language
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <umair> :p
[21:27] <umair> lol
[21:27] <Cpudan80> umm I messed my path variable up
[21:27] <ikonia> !ops | umair constant bad language
[21:27] <ubotu> umair constant bad language: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[21:27] <Cpudan80> How can I reset it?
[21:28] <danand> ikonia - maybe you were right!
[21:28] <frojnd> Does UTP kable rolled into circles effect in anyway file transfeer ? magnetic fiels or smth ?
[21:28] <danand> ikonia - no need for that
[21:28] <soundray> sharperguy: do have a look at these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia -- they are for older ubuntu versions, but you may find the decisive discrepancy between your config and the config that works.
[21:28] <MrPink_> hey, how can I access the network via Bash? So I can find computers in the built in Network manager, but would like to do it via console
[21:28] <ikonia> danand: no need for what ?
[21:28] <sanozuke> hello from portugal
[21:28] <soundray> frojnd: no
[21:28] <sharperguy> soundray, ok thanks
[21:28] <confrey> MasterAslan, are nolapic and noapic and apic=off the same things?
[21:28] <Xcell> Xcell: ok! im just started (MV2-MX SE) asus mobo, with via graphics, when in (sys settings) which do i pick?
[21:29] <Xcell> Xcell: to get out of vessa
[21:29] <danand> ikonia - umairs language and bad attitude!
[21:29] <Xtrato> Soundray: I have checked the BIOS again and the only place i can see a floppy drive listed is in the boot priority menu. Theres no device list or anything of the sort from what i can see :s
[21:29] <ikonia> danand: ahh, I thought you where implying no need for my response. Yes I agree
[21:30] <danand> ikonia - glad to get that cleared up - it was nearly all out war on the Ubuntu channel :)
[21:30] <soundray> Xtrato: there is normally an option for disabling the floppy controller under Integrated Peripherals or similar
[21:30] <Cpudan80> anyone have any idea?
[21:30] <Cpudan80> I screwed up the path variable - cant run any terminal commands
[21:30] <soundray> Xtrato: if it's not there, I don't know what to suggest -- definitely a weird problem
[21:30] <nickrud> Cpudan80: how do you mean, messed up the path?
[21:30] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I was trying to add something to it -- but it went wrong
[21:31] <soundray> Cpudan80: to fix it in the current shell, do 'export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[21:31] <nickrud> Cpudan80: where did you add it? Revert the change there
[21:31] <bullgard4> Why does 'smbclient -L localhost -U%' print different values for domain, server and master compared with 'smbclient -L Amilo7600'? (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/32673)
[21:31] <soundray> Cpudan80: then follow nickrud's advice
[21:31] <Cpudan80> nickrud:  export PATH=$(PATH):/usr/share/androidSDK/tools/ is what I tried to do
[21:31] <Cpudan80> nickrud: it was right on the command line
[21:31] <nickrud> Cpudan80: you can either close that terminal and open another, or follow soundray's advice
[21:31] <luciano_> \join #initd
[21:32] <soundray> Cpudan80: the $(PATH) syntax is wrong for bash. Use $PATH or ${PATH}
[21:32] <MasterAslan> confrey: no they are not.  I don't understand them all to be honest but I know they disable different things
[21:32] <MasterAslan> lapic and apic are parts of the whole apci I believe
[21:32] <Cpudan80> soundray: hrmmm
[21:32] <Cpudan80> soundray: google's dock is wrong then
[21:33] <olli> So, any info on the flashplugin-nonfree?
[21:33] <MrPink_> hey, how can I access the network via Bash? So I can find computers in the built in Network manager, but would like to do it via console
[21:33] <Leechzilla> Need help writing an alias. I need an alias that'll let me do "mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -o fileout.avi file1.avi file2.avi" by typing "mergevid file1.avi file2.avi fileout.avi"
[21:33] <Conker> anyone have a vmware esx 3.02 lic file that they might want to let me have?
[21:33] <soundray> Cpudan80: it's an easy thing to get wrong. $(command) does the same as backticks, ie. `command`
[21:34] <MasterAslan> confrey: I think there is a forum thread specifically for laptops on the forums have a browse
[21:34] <iNeo> MrPink_: try a portscan
[21:34] <iNeo> MrPink_: with for example nmap
[21:34] <danand> Leechzilla - try alias mergevid="mencoder ..." or add to /home/user/.bash_aliases
[21:34] <nickrud> Leechzilla: if you would do mergevid fileout file1 file2  alias mergevid='mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -o'
[21:34] <confrey> MasterAslan, ok, I'll see there
[21:35] <Leechzilla> nickrud, can't I change the order somehow, and be able to do mergevid file1 file2 fileout?
[21:35] <Cpudan80> soundray: So - if I want to add this thing to my path permanently -- I would add it to my bashrc file right?
[21:35] <MrPink_> iNeo I find the PCs in the Network Manager Ubunto offers... but how can I connect to them via console ?
[21:35] <DamagePlan> Hi, whats the default application font for gnome?
[21:35] <sanozuke> update 5.10 how to please
[21:35] <Sergo21> hello, how to install the kubuntu desktop?
[21:36] <soundray> Cpudan80: yes -- $HOME/.bashrc for a single user, /etc/profile to do it system wide, or /etc/environment
[21:36] <sanozuke> it doesn't have to be paied
[21:36] <MasterAslan> Sergo21: do you already have ubuntu installed?  if so sudo apt-get kubuntu-dekstop
[21:36] <__mikem> Sergo21, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <nickrud> Leechzilla: you could write a bash function, then you could use variables
[21:36] <Sergo21> MasterAslan,yes
[21:36] <Cpudan80> soundray: and the ()s should be {}s ?
[21:36] <soundray> Cpudan80: yes
[21:36] <MasterAslan> sorry forgot the install so what __mikem said
[21:37] <Cpudan80> soundray: I got it right off of google's install docs --- I wonder why they have it wrong
[21:37] <soundray> Cpudan80: I'm sure they'll appreciate if you report the problem back to them
[21:37] <carwe> where is the config-file for power management in ubuntu?
[21:38] <DamagePlan> Please can I hae help, Whats the default application font in gnome, When you first install ubuntu?
[21:38] <DamagePlan> thanks
[21:38] <nickrud> DamagePlan: sans
[21:39] <soundray> nickrud: that's an alias for Bitstream Vera Sans, isn't it?
[21:39] <Sergo21> DamagePlan , and for Fixed width font is monospace
[21:39] <DamagePlan> Thankyou sergo and nickrud
[21:39] <nickrud> soundray: usually but it can be change based on installed fonts
[21:39] <paladin_> I have radeon 9600.. I tried to install flgrx but I failed. I tried to uninstall everything I did and revert back. However when I move the windows or scroll up-down, the movement is VERY slow and shakey
[21:39] <Leechzilla> nickrud: You mean a bash script?
[21:39] <Gigamo> How would I go about temporarily adding some Hardy repositories to install packages that are new in hardy (and not in gutsy's repo's) and remove them after I installed what I need?
[21:39] <erawfish> paladin_: use "radeon" drivers then
[21:40] <ubuntu> gjj
[21:40] <erawfish> Gigamo: won't work
[21:40] <Cpudan80> soundray: is there a way to reprocess my .bashrc thing now that I have the export line in there (without logging out)
[21:40] <soundray> Gigamo: don't. Chances are you'll wreck your system with a partial upgrade
[21:40] <erawfish> Gigamo: only way is to do a (manual) backport
[21:40] <Gigamo> yeah
[21:40] <Dukan_Studying> don t buster
[21:40] <jbalcaen> anyone know how to install netwrok manager without an internet connection
[21:40] <Gigamo> I just need to know how I best do a manual backport :)
[21:40] <proprietarysucks> do it! don't listen to these wimps!
[21:40] <Gigamo> I'm running hardy's kernel and hardy's gcc++ already
[21:41] <Gigamo> so far without issues
[21:41] <soundray> Cpudan80: yes -- run . ~/.bashrc (dot space file to source a file)
[21:41] <soundray> Cpudan80: do a 'echo $PATH' afterwards to make sure it looks right
[21:42] <mohbana_> hi everyone, when i do  'sudo apt-get install java-common sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin  sun-java6-jdk' it replies with 'E: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate' all the rest of the things installed fine.  I am using the main, universe, restricted and multiverse repos.
[21:42] <Cpudan80> soundray: oh duh, its just a shell script
[21:42] <erUSUL> mohbana_: in 54 bits there is no plugin
[21:42] <noodlesgc> jbalcaen if you have a computer with internet go to packages.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <erUSUL> mohbana_: 64
[21:42] <soundray> Cpudan80: not quite. It doesn't have a shebang
[21:42] <paladin_> erawfish: should I use radeon, ati or fglrx?
[21:42] <mohbana_> erUSUL, what do i have to do?
[21:43] <soundray> !flash64 | mohbana_
[21:43] <ubotu> mohbana_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[21:43] <Cpudan80> soundray: hrm.... I dont see the new stuff I added in path
[21:43] <mohbana_> soundray and erUSUL are these 32bit plugins for the java 1.6?
[21:44] <Phuzion> what do I have to install to play games on shockwave.com?
[21:44] <sdc> 64 bits sucks
[21:44] <Phuzion> through firefox
[21:44] <Cpudan80> soundray: I added --- export PATH=$PATH:/usr/share/androidSDK/tools --- near the end
[21:44] <Phuzion> !shockwavwe
[21:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shockwavwe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:44] <Phuzion> !shockwave
[21:45] <Pici> Phuzion: Adobe has not released a Shockwave for linux.
[21:45] <h6mi1007> hello, i'm new to ubuntu, can someone just like connect to my pc and install everything for me? :D
[21:45] <MasterAslan> Phuzion: shockwave is not supported.  The only way I know to work around is to install a windows firefox with WINE
[21:45] <Znuff> h6mi1007, sure. Do you keep your credit card numbers on your PC?
[21:45] <Phuzion> Hmm, I'll just go upstairs and use my windows PC then, haha ,ok, thanks guys
[21:45] <soundray> Cpudan80: see if it works when you open a new login shell
[21:45] <h6mi1007> yeah, but they are all maxed out :/
[21:46] <erUSUL> mohbana_: yes in 32 bits the plugin works
[21:46] <noodlesgc> h6mi1007 just go to Applications->Add/Remove
[21:46] <Cpudan80> soundray: ahh ok - works now -- thanks
[21:46] <h6mi1007> just found that, thanx
[21:46] <genii> Phuzion: There is no Shockwave for Linux yet. If you feel strongly enough on the subject sign the online petition to create one. The petition is at http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[21:46] <soundray> mohbana_: yes
[21:46] <mohbana_> erUSUL, i dont quiet get this i am on a 64bit system this is about how to install 32bit firefox
[21:47] <h6mi1007> and i just found irc :D
[21:47] <soundray> mohbana_: if you want to stick with 64bit firefox, use nspluginwrapper
[21:47] <JFactor> !tvout
[21:47] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[21:47] <erUSUL> mohbana_: well if you really need the java plugin for firefox the *only* way to do it on 64bit is using a 32bit firefox + java
[21:47] <JFactor> well that ended in horror
[21:48] <noodlesgc> JFactor what gfx card?
[21:48] <soundray> erUSUL: I enabled the 32bit Java plugin in 64bit firefox with nspluginwrapper. Is that not recommended?
[21:48] <mohbana_> erUSUL, shall i just install the 1.5 java then?
[21:48] <syntaxerror55> soundray: Obviously not.
[21:48] <soundray> mohbana_: that's not a solution
[21:49] <h6mi1007> like i said i just came from windows and was wondering if anyone knows if i can plug my slave hd in and access music like in win or do i need to know some magic?
[21:49] <sunseeker888> hi chaps, new to ubuntu. i need some help
[21:49] <soundray> syntaxerror55: care to elaborate?
[21:49] <sunseeker888> if there an ip blocker soft arounf
[21:49] <pike_> h6mi1007: usb drive or internal?
[21:49] <h6mi1007> internal
[21:49] <zac> hey guys, I think there is a package conflict in the repos: libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 7.0.1-1ubuntu3) but 7.0.1-1ubuntu4~tv is to be installed
[21:49] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 denyhosts might be what you need
[21:49] <mohbana_> anyhow how am i going to get past this?
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> soundray: it's a hack, it is using two architectures. While I would recommend it, the Ubuntu team probably would not.
[21:50] <Scunizi> How do I ls a directory to get a list of hidden subdirectories? tried ls /. & ls ./
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: ls -a
[21:50] <noodlesgc> Scunizi ls -a
[21:50] <Scunizi> thanks!
[21:50] <noodlesgc> darn beat me
[21:50] <mohbana_> lol
[21:50] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: or my preference ls -A
[21:50] <zac> how can i force libglu1-mesa-7.0.1-1ubuntu3 to be installed instead of 7.0.1-1ubuntu4~tv?
[21:50] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, :)
[21:50] <erUSUL> soundray: i didn't know that was possible (i use it only with flash)
[21:51] <tkxue> what's the easiest way to type chinese in ubuntu?
[21:51] <pike_> h6mi1007: id expect it to detect it but if not 1) open a terminal 2) sudo fdisk -l to see attached drives  3) mkdir /media/music;gksu gedit /etc/fstab  and add the line for that drive like /dev/hdb1    /media/music   defaults  0 0   <-- or something it will probably set it up for you though what file system is the slave?
[21:51] <nickrud> Leechzilla: not a bash script, a function you can add to the ~/.bashrc and invoke on the command line.  the package abs-guide has docs, install it an look at /usr/share/doc/abs-guide
[21:51] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: ls -A lists all hidden directories except . and ..
[21:51] <sunseeker888> nood lesgc denyhost, i will check up, any link by anychance
[21:51] <tkxue> I need to write a document in chinese ... on ubuntu -- what is the tool I should use? (I don't see anything particularly useful from apt-cache search chinese)
[21:51] <oliver3> tkxue: you're using a Chinese keyboard right?
[21:51] <Leechzilla> nickrud: I got it working already, thanks! never done this before :D
[21:51] <tkxue> oliver3: no, I'm using a english keyboard
[21:51] <erUSUL> mohbana_: no java version has a 64 bit plugin for firefox. Do as soundray suggested and use nspluginwrapper to install the plugin on 64 bit firefox
[21:51] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 you can just sudo apt-get install denyhosts
[21:51] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, nice.. something new to learn every day..
[21:51] <nickrud> Leechzilla: good, I was a way for a couple minutes
[21:51] <oliver3> tkxue: then I suggest you get a Chinese one.
[21:51] <tkxue> oliver3: I want something where I type in pin yin + tone, and it gives me a list of chars to use
[21:51] <h6mi1007> pike ntfs
[21:52] <tkxue> oliver3: what's a chinese keyboard?
[21:52] <JFactor> noodlesgc: Nvidia 6150
[21:52] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: :D
[21:52] <pike_> !ntfs3g | h6mi1007 automount script here
[21:52] <ubotu> h6mi1007 automount script here: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:52] <oliver3> tkxue: a keyboard with Chinese characters.
[21:52] <noodlesgc> JFactor ok nvm, I just got mine working with Intel
[21:52] <adub> does anyone know where to get linux / ubuntu myspace layouts
[21:52] <Leechzilla> nickrud: I saved it as a script and added to .bashrc.. Not sure if it was the right way of doing it, but it works
[21:52] <h6mi1007> cool thx
[21:52] <pike_> tkxue: or a pad to write with if you find a solution you like /msg it to me if you dont care
[21:52] <JFactor> noodlesgc: Ok Tahnks anyway
[21:53] <tass1412> cedega sound doesn't even work with aoss... any ideas?
[21:53] <JFactor> Could anyone else help me configure the SVideo TVOut on the Nvidia 6150
[21:53] <nickrud> Leechzilla: a good place to keep your own scripts is in ~/bin , add     if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"   to your .bashrc
[21:54] <sunseeker888> nood got it? how do i uncompil it, sorry i am very new to linux
[21:54] <Scunizi> Prime example! Using the command line to copy 1000+ fonts from ~/.fonts to ~/font_holder_file takes 3 seconds. Trying to do it with Nautilus.... well after 80% cpu and the window grayed while thinking.. it never finished.
[21:55] <Leechzilla> nickrud: I have it in ~/Scripts, and then made an alias to run that script.. thought it was simpler
[21:55] <nickrud> Leechzilla: more than one way to skin a cat
[21:55] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: that would apply to any window manager/file manager. Especially Windows Explorer
[21:55] <Leechzilla> :)
[21:55] <erUSUL> soundray: maybe you should add your procedure (using nspluginwrapper with java) in the wikipage?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[21:55] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 after you install it just type denyhosts in a terminal
[21:55] <pine> even better, put home made scripts in /usr/local/bin. so all users in system can use them
[21:55] <rctmcl> theres only one way to put it in the microwave over though
[21:56] <pine> nickrud
[21:56] <syntaxerror55> I put my scripts in /bin
[21:56] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, how very true.. just shows to go you, command line can be friendly and fast. :D
[21:56] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: indeed :D
[21:56] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 you could also look at firestarter
[21:56]  * nickrud is possessive of his scripts (plus he runs a single user machine, even keeps /var/www as /home/www
[21:56] <nomopofomo> I just installed the most recent version of the NVIDIA drivers for Ubuntu, version 169.09 and now I can't get any 3D acceleration. Does anyone have any idea why that might be?
[21:56] <zac> hey I'm getting this error when I try to apt-get install libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libglu1-mesa (= 7.0.1-1ubuntu3) but 7.0.1-1ubuntu4~tv is to be installed
[21:56] <sunseeker888> firestarter is firewall isn't it not an ip blocker
[21:57] <sunseeker888> [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/run/denyhosts.pid'
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> well, actually I make a symbolically link to /bin
[21:57] <carwe> when entering "sudo apt-get install wine" i get this: "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  1 22:29:23 2008".. whats wrong?
[21:57] <syntaxerror55> but all the same :D
[21:57] <pike_> carwe: what does 'date' say
[21:57] <h6mi1007> how do i unpackage a file like flash player?
[21:57] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, I just found out that with 100+ fonts registered in the system, Inkscape takes 45 seconds to load.  After removal of said fonts, 7 seconds.
[21:57] <Scunizi> *1000+ fonts
[21:57] <sunseeker888> I have installe lockit as firewall
[21:57] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 are you trying to block inbound traffic of outbound?
[21:58] <pike_> h6mi1007: doubleclick or tar xfvz file.tar.gz  if its a tar.gz
[21:58] <pine> carwe, do a ntpdate  some_ntp_server to correct your time
[21:58] <carwe> Fri Feb  1 22:57:57 CET 2008
[21:58] <h6mi1007> tar yeah
[21:58] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 I have like 15 firewalls
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: why in the world would you have over one thousand fonts anyway
[21:58] <nickrud> Scunizi: why would you need 1000 fonts, anyway? Most fonts are simply crap
[21:58] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: and to back up my claim, I develop fonts
[21:58] <confrey> hi everybody
[21:58]  * nickrud thinks syntaxerror55's fonts must be beautiful
[21:59] <sunseeker888> well, I am trying my ip, using a different agteway to access a financial bb, I have platinun ip blocker on on windows. looking a native linux one
[21:59] <syntaxerror55> nickrud: would you like to try one? :D
[21:59] <sunseeker888> to""hide"
[21:59] <syntaxerror55> nickrud: they're CC
[21:59] <nickrud> syntaxerror55: sure, I'm always looking for good fonts, creative commons? good
[21:59] <Scunizi> nickrud, syntaxerror55 I've just been looking for some variety and fun fonts.  Managed to find a couple of files and loaded them up to look at.  You're right most are horrible but there are some keepers.
[21:59] <Factory|TyraeL^> seek team 1.3 pv me :)
[22:00] <nickrud> brb
[22:00] <Scunizi> nickrud, syntaxerror55 I use them for advertising in newspapers, flyers etc..  needed something that would be unusual, grabbing and legible.
[22:00] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: still, thousands of fonts. that's rediculous. my low-RAM computer (as I like to put it, 'fragile') wouldn't like it
[22:01] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 is this what you want? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-block-an-ip-on-my-linux-server/
[22:01] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, that's why I removed them to a different directory and reset the cache.. so things would work better..
[22:01] <kapace> ok, im following the guide at wiki:RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, and it's telling me to do setup (hd0)
[22:01] <paladin_> I have radeon 9600... what driver should I use? ati, radeon or fglrx?
[22:01] <kapace> but grub fails cause it can't find grub stage 1 on /boot/grub
[22:02] <kapace> when i installed that ubuntu install, i didn't install the bootloader
[22:02] <dame> what i need to mount after i chroot into ubuntu?
[22:02] <usr13_> adub: pidgin
[22:02] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: Ahh. True story: when I was a little kid, about 8, I used to go on myfonts.com all day long and look at them. Never bought one. ;D
[22:03] <erUSUL> paladin_: ati and radeon are the same driver (open source) fglrx is not open source
[22:03] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, since you develop fonts, maybe you can tell me of a decent font viewer.  Currently I use Opticon.
[22:03] <h6mi1007> so tar is like a rar file huh
[22:03] <usr13_> h6mi1007: no, tar is archive, not compressed.
[22:03] <erUSUL> paladin_: i think radeon will give you the less headaches
[22:03] <confrey> help me please, gutsy doesn't boot; before gdm starting, I have a blank screen only; I can't active any tty console, neither reboot by ctrl-alt-del
[22:04] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: Font viewer? I honestly don't use one. I use the built in one in fontforge (Edit>Display), and when it's time to test it out I just use AbiWord.
[22:04] <h6mi1007> ok cool, where is a good place to extract the flash installer?
[22:04] <noodlesgc> confrey: try ctr+alt+f1
[22:04] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: I'll have to look into Opticon, but if I was constantly exporting from Fontforge it would defeat the purpose
[22:04] <confrey> noodlesgc, not work
[22:05] <sunseeker888> nood, not exactly, LOL, I am trying to hide my IP, that link is to block IP from spammers or ban people. I am looking for soft to route my ip to a different gateway
[22:05] <confrey> I have the same thing in recovery mode
[22:05] <mohbana_> soundray, the way you suggested of installing the 32bit of java on 64bit is not on the page
[22:05] <confrey> I tried apic=off too
[22:05] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, ah ok.  Opticon is java based and fairly decent.  Pick a directory and it will display the font names on one side and "sample text" on the other.
[22:05] <sunseeker888> if i used wine? can i used my windows hide IP, will that work
[22:05] <jack-desktop> where can i learn everything about bash?
[22:05] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, I've only tried it on ttf files.
[22:05] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 its worth a shot
[22:06] <Znuff> jack-desktop, you probably want a scripting how-to?
[22:06] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: hi there syntax
[22:06] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: okay. I've never needed anything like that. But I'm quite sure you do as you have thousands of fonts ;D
[22:06] <sunseeker888> cheers mate
[22:06] <jack-desktop> Znuff, yes
[22:06] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: Hello :D
[22:06] <ompaul> jack-desktop, man bash   --- and look for bash howto and go to tldp.org they should give you more than you need
[22:06] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: how are you? :)
[22:06] <Znuff> jack-desktop, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[22:06] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: good. you? How's your fresh install going?
[22:06] <ompaul> !#ubuntu | SexyJames1337
[22:06] <ubotu> SexyJames1337: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <noodlesgc> confrey boot into recovery mode
[22:07] <noodlesgc> confrey then type gdm
[22:07] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: pretty good so far, just tinkering about and trying to work things out
[22:07] <h6mi1007> anyone know any good newbies unbuntu guides?
[22:07] <syntaxerror55> ompaul: he was here yesterday and wanted to install ubuntu on his/his brother's computer
[22:07] <ompaul> syntaxerror55, ack
[22:07] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, yep.. well not "multiple" thousands... just a little over a thousand.  The font viewer makes it easier to find what I'm looking for since a program like Inkscape has issues cacheing that many and allowing you to easilly pick one.
[22:07] <ompaul> syntaxerror55, going to explain how bad I am ;-)
[22:08] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: had a problem with trying to install and use the web browser flock though, dunno if you might be able to help
[22:08] <syntaxerror55> ompaul: ;D it's fine. I would have done the same
[22:08] <confrey> noodlesgc, recovery mode work as normal mode
[22:08] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: Flock? I haven't used that since FF1.0; why would you want it?
[22:08] <noodlesgc> confrey ?? recovery mode will should give you a command line
[22:08] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: or at least haven't since a very early version of Flock
[22:08] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: it was in a tarq.gz or whatever theyre called, i extracted it to the home folder and used gedit to make a shortcut to the flock file, it trys to load but fails
[22:09] <adub> does anyone know where to get linux / ubuntu myspace layouts
[22:09] <confrey> noodlesgc, I try again
[22:09] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: I think flock is in the repos
[22:09] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: someone recommended it for youtube and stuff, my firefox isnt working very well with flash at all
[22:09] <syntaxerror55> !info flock | SexyJames1337
[22:09] <ubotu> sexyjames1337: Package flock does not exist in gutsy
[22:09] <confrey> wait a few minute
[22:09] <noodlesgc> confrey you press esc when grub is loading
[22:09] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: That's a known issue. It's easily fixed.
[22:09] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: i heard the flash installer is broke at the moment or something
[22:09] <syntaxerror55> !flashissues | SexyJames1337
[22:09] <ubotu> SexyJames1337: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[22:09] <DamagePlan> I need help please. Whenever I log out my computer crashes. Please can you help me. Thanks
[22:09] <sunseeker888> guys, I have installed skype, but there were no facilities to check my accout, or send sms, is that correct? ubuntu 64 bits
[22:10] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: hold on, I think they changed the factoid. there used to be a working package here.
[22:10] <syntaxerror55> !flash | SexyJames1337
[22:10] <ubotu> SexyJames1337: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[22:10] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: youtube it kinda works with but the controls dont work too good and the video is choppy, a lot of others dont work at all. i think its using one of the 3rd party flash plugins
[22:10] <h6mi1007> damn, no old flash players will work?
[22:10] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: they changed the factoid, I'll look up the fix package. hold on
[22:10] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: ok, ty
[22:11] <DamagePlan> Whenever I log out my computer crashes. Please can you help me. Thanks
[22:11] <syntaxerror55> SexyJames1337: the video is choppy because Gutsy is packaged with Gnash, which doesn't work well with *tube
[22:11] <orbisvicis> can someone who is logged on locally tell me the output of $DISPLAY   ?
[22:11] <SexyJames1337> syntaxerror55: yeh.
[22:12] <orbisvicis> *someone logged on to the default X session
[22:12] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan how exactly does it crash? what do you see?
[22:12] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc I see just my desktop piccture at thats all
[22:12] <erUSUL> !info flashplugin-nonfree | syntaxerror55
[22:12] <ubotu> syntaxerror55: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
 I see just my desktop piccture at thats all
[22:13] <SexyJames1337> btw what irc do you guys use on ubuntu? at the moment in on my vista machine and i use the chatzilla firefox plugin, would that work with ubuntu too?
[22:13] <dr1> anyone in here ever tried to play fallout games or baldur's gate / planescape torment games on linux/ubuntu?
[22:13] <syntaxerror55> erUSUL: Adobe flash install is broken
[22:13] <mohbana_> soundray, the way you suggested of installing the 32bit of java on 64bit is not on the page
[22:13] <erUSUL> SexyJames1337: yes chatzilla works where firefox/mozilla works
[22:13] <noodlesgc> SexyJames1337 pidgin and xchat-gnome are good
[22:13] <SexyJames1337> erUSUL: ok thanks, i'll go install it
[22:13] <SexyJames1337> noodlesgc: pidgin can do irc too? :S
[22:14] <erUSUL> syntaxerror55: yes a fixed packages is in proposed on its way to updates but " Gutsy is packaged with Gnash," is missleading
[22:14] <noodlesgc> Damageplan, do you see desktop after you click logout or when you try to login?
[22:14] <erUSUL> syntaxerror55: imho
[22:14] <sunseeker888> nood do you know anything about skype by any chance?
[22:14] <orbisvicis> no one on #ubuntu logs on to the default local X server?
[22:15] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 nope never used it before
[22:15] <syntaxerror55> erUSUL: by default
[22:15] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc When I click log out or restard the x server I am just left with my desktop picture. My gui dissapears
[22:15] <sunseeker888> no prob cheers
[22:15] <syntaxerror55> Alright, who changed the factoid. :| The old one would have fixed this right away.
[22:16] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan thats odd. After you click logout try pressing ctrl+alt+f8
[22:16] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc What will that do?
[22:16] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan see if you see any text that seems out of place
[22:16] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hi there. this is SexyJames :)
[22:16] <DamagePlan> ok
[22:16] <RazzoRz> hey folks!..
[22:16] <erUSUL> syntaxerror55: well the first time i browsed to youtube i was asked to install a flash plugin i was able to choose which i wanted instaled so there was no deault (even more gnash was marked as experimental)
[22:16] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan it should show you some logging stuff
[22:17] <zachalink> Package emerald-themes is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:17] <zachalink> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:17] <zachalink> is only available from another source
[22:17] <RazzoRz> trying to set up vnc, if anyone knows anything about this.. let me know i will ask my question from there!
[22:17] <zachalink> what else can I type to get emerald themes?
[22:17] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc Ill be a while because I cant do anything so I have to switch mmy computer of by the wall
[22:17] <noodlesgc> zachalink its in a different repository
[22:17] <syntaxerror55> erUSUL: Okay, I thought Gnash came on the Gutsy live CD. Misinformation, as I have Dapper. KKSlider1337: Hi. I can't find the package I used, so I'm checking to see if I can DCC mine to you
[22:17] <zachalink> can you show me to that repository then?
[22:17] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: cool. not sure what dcc means but nevermind :P
[22:18] <zachalink> telling would be good too. =)
[22:18] <goobsoft> Where can I get help with launchpad's ppa?
[22:18] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: gah, I must have deleted it. ;; I think the Flash plugin will be fixed soon. Using flock won't fix it, however.
[22:18] <KKSlider1337> i have to say im quite impressed with ubuntu. seems to run general programs faster than my vista machine, and thats like twice as powerful as this one
[22:18] <noodlesgc> zachalink deb http://kwatrow.nl/repo Gutsy compiz-fusion-git
[22:18] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: ah right, nevermind then
[22:18] <zachalink> thank you
[22:19] <DuClare> Does *buntu run samba by default?
[22:19] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: thanks anyway
[22:19] <goobsoft> DuClare: no
[22:19] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: I'll keep looking. I'm sure it's somewhere. I can also check /var/cache/apt where my deb packages are.
[22:19] <RazzoRz> KKSlider1337: you know what that is right!!
[22:19] <tc_> hi, has someone successfully used "mplayer -endpos"? i cant get it to work with mp3 stream
[22:19] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: he'll just have to do without youtube etc. for now
[22:19] <noodlesgc> zachalink get the gpg key too http://kwatrow.nl/repo/
[22:19] <zachalink> k, thanks
[22:19] <hellues> hey
[22:19] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: I think it's in here.
[22:20] <RazzoRz> One word... Windblows <<
[22:20] <hellues> how can i set root privileges on ubuntu 7.10
[22:20] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: are there any other programs you'd recommend at all? i installed songbird, seems quite good
[22:20] <Gnine> !media
[22:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:20] <zachalink> is there any specific place in sources.list that I add the code, or do I just do it anywhere?
[22:20] <RazzoRz> Hellues: sudo
[22:20] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc JUst tried it then and nothnig happened, I cant do anything at all
[22:20] <taz> hi guys .. im look for wobbly .. where i can find it ?
[22:20] <Gnine> !root
[22:20] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:20] <taz> please help me
[22:20] <hellues> no no
[22:20] <hellues> Rabiddog,
[22:20] <hellues> sorry
[22:20] <m0dY> if i have lv02 which is an empty partition and lv03 which already have some files, can i merge both of them to be one logical volume?
[22:20] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: depends on your brothers likes/needs
[22:20] <agresor> how to see CPU tempature on linux ? :)
[22:20] <hellues> i wonna use root
[22:21] <noodlesgc> zachlink anywhere
[22:21] <hellues> root
[22:21] <agresor> hellues, do, sudo passwd root
[22:21] <hellues> i can enter system with root
[22:21] <rsk> agresor: lm_sensors
[22:21] <hellues> root username
[22:21] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan what gfx card fo you have?
[22:21] <hellues> ha ok
[22:21] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: aye, i suppose. as long as he can play music and videos, and when i get video sites working, he'll be happy
[22:21] <hellues> thanls
[22:21] <RazzoRz> agresor: depends if your m/o has that option!
[22:21] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc radeon
[22:21] <agresor> rsk,  lm_sensors ? what app or what command ?
[22:22] <rsk> agresor: that's an app
[22:22] <Sciri> agresor: Install the lm_sensors package, then use the sensors command.
[22:22] <rsk> agresor: and it will most likely pickup every sensors on the motherboard cpufan temperature speeds etc
[22:22] <erUSUL> !sensors | agresor
[22:22] <ubotu> agresor: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:22] <Gnine> being logged in as root is not recommended
[22:22] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: found it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 :D
[22:22] <zachalink> alright, I did that, so now I can do sudo apt-get install emerald-themes?
[22:22] <KKSlider1337> are there any instant messengers more like msn than pidgin? i presume you cant run msn. i mean able to use all the features of msn like custom emoticons, webcam, etc
[22:23] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: thankyou sir
[22:23] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: yes, there are. I recommend kmess
[22:23] <DamagePlan> KKSlider1337 I recommend aMsn
[22:23] <noodlesgc> zachalink sudo apt-get update first
[22:23] <erUSUL> KKSlider1337: amsn?
[22:23] <zachalink> alright
[22:23] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: retract that I didn't see the stuff about webcam. Yes, amsn
[22:24] <kapace> when i run grub-install, it says "could not find device for boot, or not a block device"
[22:24] <RazzoRz> Does anyone know vnc?
[22:24] <syntaxerror55> !anyone | RazzoRz
[22:24] <ubotu> RazzoRz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:24] <noodlesgc> DamagePlan Ive never had or heard of this problem before, this could helphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254167
[22:24] <RazzoRz> trying to set up vnc, if anyone knows anything about this.. let me know i will ask my question from there!
[22:24] <DamagePlan> noodlesgc ok thanks for your help
[22:24] <Kloss> can someone help me. my cd/dvd burner is not working under ubuntu.
[22:24] <Gnine> !vnc | RazzoRz
[22:24] <ubotu> RazzoRz: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[22:24] <syntaxerror55> RazzoRz: No. Please say your question in the channel, and if someone knows they will reply.
[22:25] <yotux> Grub died on me with error 17
[22:25] <noodlesgc> Kloss what program are you using?
[22:25] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hmm i think you need to be logged in to get it. i'd better make an account
[22:25] <yotux> I tried re-installing it and it still doesn't work any ideas
[22:25] <FurryNemesis> yotux: install failed, try reinstalling
[22:25] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: okay. :D
[22:25] <Kloss> k3b. but it is notworking with any program
[22:25] <FurryNemesis> yotux: check your install cd for errors
[22:25] <tom2002> when i try to use gcc ... i get an error message saying it can't find "cc1plus"
[22:25] <Kloss> <--noodlesgc:
[22:25] <tom2002> what should i do ??
[22:26] <yotux> the things is that I was running my system prior to a switch back to gdm
[22:26] <yotux> I installed kubuntu on the side
[22:26] <syntaxerror55> tom2002: that's probably not gcc's fault, it may be the program you are compiling.
[22:26] <noodlesgc> Kloss are you trying to burn something? what error message do you get?
[22:26] <Kloss> noodlesgc: see here: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/149052/?highlight=
[22:26] <zachalink> And on another subject, how do I enable taskbar transparency?
[22:26] <sheen> hello there
[22:26] <yotux> kdm was default and last night I decided I wanted more gnome so I switched to gdm
[22:27] <tom2002> k .. i'll double check that
[22:27] <yotux> Is there a way to create a how new grub conf?
[22:27] <Kloss> noodlesgc: click the link to the pastebin there.
[22:27] <Kloss> noodlesgc: there you can find the error message.
[22:27] <BodOmLaW> anyone here a dmraid expert?
[22:28] <vinolencia> howdy all; i'm having issue playing a burnt DVD disk in VLC; it only plays the first 30 minutes or so of the first title, then immediately quits.  Anyone have suggstions?
[22:28] <sheen> I have a good hardware and all my games are slow (15/30 Fps) some of them should go to100 fps and more. I have a 8800 GTS nvidia, drivres 169.09, do you have any tips for me please ?
[22:28] <noodlesgc> Kloss yes i see. I have gotten that message before when I used faulty blank discs
[22:28] <PaulyPsychotic> Hi I've been using Gnome Ubuntu Feisty Fawn since August. I absolutely love it. Is there a web site on how to create .deb programs how to code compile etc? I'm really interested on learning this for fun... any ideas?
[22:28] <Kloss> noodlesgc: really? so what to do?
[22:28] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: did the pkg work?
[22:28] <RazzoRz> after installin kate it askes me start the script. "Then you have to create the startup script and place it under" ~/.kde/Autostart/x11vnc"    then to paste the following lines into the file:  #! /bin/sh
[22:28] <zachalink> Also, on a more important note, how do I use emerald themes? I got in the theme manager, but there's no option to use a specific theme... =(
[22:28] <RazzoRz> x11vnc -rfbauth ~/.vnc/passwd -bg -forever -noxdamage &"   Then it says that it cant save that!!
[22:28] <rinaldi_> vinolencia: have you tried playing in anything else? eg totem?
[22:28] <BodOmLaW> anyone here a dmraid expert?
[22:28] <BodOmLaW> i need a walk through
[22:29] <erUSUL> !repeat | BodOmLaW
[22:29] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:29] <noodlesgc> Kloss well, i usually use gnomebaker and i dont have problems
[22:29] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | BodOmLaW
[22:29] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:29] <vinolencia> yeah, i've tried it in xine, kaffeine, etc.  vlc is the only thing that can get the DVD open to play even the first 30 inutes, yeah
[22:29] <syntaxerror55> !pastebin | RazzoRz
[22:29] <ubotu> RazzoRz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:29] <BodOmLaW> thanks
[22:29] <Kloss> noodlesgc: has it something to do with the program or with the raw discs?
[22:29] <yotux> in grub to hda come before sda?
[22:30] <erUSUL> BodOmLaW: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto deals with dmraid
[22:30] <PKdoR> is there a way o minimize thunderbird to the notification area?
[22:30] <RazzoRz> ok fine  go here you will see what i am talking about  (ROBOT)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196572
[22:30] <jimat> !display
[22:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:30] <erUSUL> yotux: grub respects bios order so it depends on Bios settings not ubuntu's
[22:30] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: do i need to remove gnash beforehand or doesnt it matter
[22:31] <syntaxerror55> yotux: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#17
[22:31] <Gibb> How do I get a list of tasks running, and how do I kill a specific app? I have pstools on my windows machines, whats the equivilent in ubuntu?
[22:31] <BodOmLaW> the thing about those guides is that they already have windows installed
[22:31] <danand> yotux - hda is a PATA or ATA disk, sda is a SATA disk
[22:31] <lecter> hello
[22:31] <yotux> thanks I am just trying to figure out the grub 17 error
[22:31] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: as I've never used Gnash, I'm not sure. Install the flashplugin in the package, see if it works, and if it doesn't, remove gnash
[22:31] <PaulyPsychotic> what language are most ubuntu based programs based off of Java? C++ C? What language is recommended to learn how to create Ubuntu based programs?
[22:31] <lecter> what is the deafult system font on ubuntu? (In Terminal)
[22:31] <noodlesgc> Kloss, try this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/dvd-burning-growisofs-invalid-argument-447833/
[22:32] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: most programs are written in C/C++. Python is recommended.
[22:32] <erUSUL> PaulyPsychotic: C;  python i would say
[22:32] <noodlesgc> PaulyPsychotic python is really useful in linux
[22:32] <danand> yotux - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[22:32] <yotux> danand thankz surfing now
[22:32] <PKdoR> which sound driver is better alsa or oss?
[22:32] <PaulyPsychotic> thanks everyone. I could probably find some online tutorials?
[22:32] <yotux> I have both sda and hda drives :(
[22:33] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:33] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Non-Programmer%27s_Tutorial_for_Python
[22:33] <DRebellion> Gibb: top, kill
[22:33] <DRebellion> Gibb: ps aux
[22:33] <noodlesgc> PaulyPsychotic ubuntu has a python tutorial installed. open help and search for "dive into python"
[22:33] <tom2002> gcc still can't find "cc1plus" :(
[22:33] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:33] <PaulyPsychotic> syntaxerror55 thanks a lot! :)
[22:33] <Gnine> grub does not differentiate between drive types
[22:33] <syntaxerror55> noodlesgc: the above is better for nonprogrammers afaik
[22:34] <DRebellion> lecter: monospace
[22:34] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:34] <PaulyPsychotic> I've always wanted to make my own program...
[22:34] <Gnine> you need to use a live cd and possibly reinstall grub
[22:34] <lecter> DRebellion, no, is not monospace
[22:34] <noodlesgc> tom2002 try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:34] <tom2002> how do i deal w/ this gcc "cc1plus" issue
[22:34] <tom2002> alright
[22:34] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:34] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: It's not as easy as it sounds, but don't give up. :D
[22:34] <jimat> !screen
[22:35] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[22:35] <yotux> Gnine I already reinstalled grub
[22:35] <d|abolic> Hi
[22:35] <d|abolic> I need some help with Ubuntu
[22:35] <Gnine> you can modify terminal settings by right-click > edit current profile
[22:35] <putnum> hi guys
[22:35] <noodlesgc> PaulyPsychotic study programming tutorials, and youll get there
[22:35] <PaulyPsychotic> syntaxerror55: I know I've tried in Windows lol. And taken programming classes...still don't quite get it but I'm determined to understands
[22:35] <sunseeker888> guys how to i clean the disk, remove junks files
[22:35] <tom2002> when i try sudo apt-get install build-essential i get prompted for a CD
[22:35] <yotux> after setting session manager back to gdm the sys is trashed
[22:35] <putnum> can i have an icon for a windows app on my linux desktop and when clicking on it launch the app within vbox? and it be seamless
[22:36] <PaulyPsychotic> thanks <noodlesgc>
[22:36] <Kloss> noodlesgc: hmm... sounds all very difficult.
[22:36] <noodlesgc> tom2002 go to System->Administration->Software sources and uncheck cdrom
[22:36] <Gibb> drebellion thx
[22:36] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: yes, definitely see that. it got me started when everything else failed
[22:36] <shr1k3> shr1k3
[22:36] <d|abolic> i've tried installing it to a blank hard drive but I think GRUB installed onto 1 of the wrong drives (I have 3) When i booted from the drive GRUB was installed on I got a error 13
[22:36] <lz1gjd> hello, where can I get the latest package of linuxdcpp
[22:36] <dame> i dont have any files in /boot/grub and thats why i cant install grub. ive installed grub via apt-get and it gave me no errors. anybody help
[22:36] <tom2002> k
[22:36] <Sonja> the files in my shared folders are not sharing properly. is there something i have to type to give access to every single file in the folders?
[22:37] <d|abolic> can anyone help me?
[22:38] <overridex> anyone know if there's a way with alsa to pipe my line in through pcm or something so that it plays out all my speakers instead of just the front?
[22:38] <SpookyET> Can anyone explain to me how Ubuntu makes the fonts bold?
 I really think Ubuntu needs a good webcam program I'm using Camorama but everything comes out blue looking no matter what different color options I try to change...cheese is only available for gutsy I think and I'm kind of scared to upgrade I don't want to delete my XP partition
[22:38] <Gnine> !permissions | Sonja
[22:38] <ubotu> Sonja: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[22:38] <confrey> hi everybody
[22:38] <PaulyPsychotic> I could always just contribute ideas to ubuntu as well no?
[22:39] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: i installed it, but flash still isnt working very well. when i go on about:plugins it shows gnash but not flash. do you know how i would remove gnash, im not sure exactly how you'd do it
[22:39] <putnum> anybody?
[22:39] <d|abolic> anyone?????......
[22:39] <MrPink_> hello, I have a Linux PC and a Windows PC, in Network Manager with gutsy I find that PC and can access it... now I would like to access some of the folders with the console so I can use commands like cp and so on... am I able to mount the network folders somehow, and if yes how?
[22:39] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: about : plugins*
[22:39] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: er, these are two totally different problems. Upgrading won't delete your XP partition. Don't expect to be able to write a new webcam program for Linux, as the problem isn't in Camorama but in the Linux drivers for the camera
[22:39] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: sudo apt-get remove gnash
[22:39] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, I gave you the wrong name for the font viewer. It's called Opcion. avail. @ http://opcion.sourceforge.net
[22:40] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: sorry, I said that wrong. You can expect to be able to, but not necessarily to have a differently working program.
[22:41] <bascule> !samba | MrPink_
[22:41] <ubotu> MrPink_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[22:41] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
 Oh okay I can definitely understand that now. But still I wouldn't mind learning the languages just to come up with something. I'm kind of a geek that way I eventually wanna get into PHP too I got too many hobbies *sigh*
[22:41] <bascule> lecter: terminal AFAIK
[22:41] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:42] <MrPink_> bascule: Ok thanks... what about if I am trying to connect to another Linux machine... is that easier?
[22:42] <d|abolic> anyone avaliable to provide me with a little bit of support?
[22:42] <lecter> What is the default system font on ubuntu? (I am talking about the 'system fixed width font'In Terminal)
[22:42] <Meglo> lecter, Helvetica
[22:42] <Scunizi> !ask | d|abolic
[22:42] <ubotu> d|abolic: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:42] <lecter> hmm
[22:42] <MrPink_> d|abolic: I doubt that I can be of any help, but how about asking... maybe someone will answer then!
[22:42] <bascule> MrPink_: same really, linux firewalls are usually more ... em ... restrictive :)
[22:42] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hurrah! when i removed it, flash has taken its place so now youtube works perfectly. thankyou very much.
[22:42] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: okay. Just know this: it won't happen overnight. Or overweek. Maybe not even over2months. It takes time. You need to be very dedicated to it.
[22:42] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: you're welcome. :D
[22:43] <lecter> How can i install helvetica fonts?
[22:43] <syntaxerror55> lecter: you can't. It's illegal.
[22:43] <lecter> Why?
[22:43] <Meglo> You need to pay a fontforge in norway
[22:43] <MrPink_> bascule: hmm its weird that they make it so difficult, usually everything you do in ubuntu graphically has a corresponding console command... I didn't think it would be that hard ^^
[22:43] <Meglo> or something
[22:43] <bascule> not illegal, I have 4 MS licences
[22:43] <syntaxerror55> lecter: Because Mac owns the copyright to Helvetica.
[22:43] <Meglo> But Helvetica is so pretty :(
[22:43] <lecter> Really?
 Yeah I know. it took me a long time just to learn how to install PHP scripts heh. But I got that mastered now my web site is www.darkshadowdesigns.net
[22:43] <bascule> MrPink_: smbmount, mount -t smbfs
[22:44] <Scunizi> lecter, lots of fonts are that way..
[22:44] <lecter> Scunizi, i want a very similar to helvetica
[22:44] <MrPink_> bascule: what? ^^
[22:44] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: Do not promote your website in here.
[22:44] <ygorabreu> Hello guys...well, does any1 know a nice program to creat pdf files? i know i can do by exportin on openoffice..but still..theres another software to do nice pdf documents? for gutsy
 oops sorry
[22:44] <PaulyPsychotic> thanks
[22:44] <bascule> MrPink_: 'correspondind console command'
[22:44] <MrPink_> bascule: Is that a way to do it via console?
[22:44] <PaulyPsychotic> my bad
[22:44] <bascule> yes
[22:45] <Scunizi> lecter, you can get mstcorefonts in synaptic because they were released in some type of gray area.. I'm not sure what helvetica even looks like any more.. got a site with it that I can look at?
where are the rules for this channel? It's been forever since I've been on IRC
[22:45] <Gnine> openoffice can create .pdf files
[22:45] <kapace> ok, now when i boot, i just get to a Grub prompt
[22:45] <syntaxerror55> !coc | PaulyPsychotic
[22:45] <ubotu> PaulyPsychotic: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[22:45] <Meglo> Are there any good guides on how to do encrypted LVM on top of a software RAID 1 array with the debian installer on the altinstall CD?
[22:45] <bascule> Scunizi: it is knoppix default font, gotta be there somewhere
[22:45] <fitztrev> Can I get some rsync help on this issue?  I'm having a really hard time with it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684967
[22:46] <confrey> hi everybody
[22:46] <ygorabreu> Gnine: thats just what i said... but i want another nice software specific made to create pdf files...
[22:46] <Scunizi> bascule, you mean helvetica?
 yes you can export to .pdf file then export to PDF
[22:46] <bascule> Scunizi: yes
[22:46] <Gnine> why
[22:46] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: use your common sense. You can msg ubotu and tell him 'spam' and he will tell you the triggers for all additional rules in this channel.
[22:46] <bascule> Scunizi: it is one-byte (non TTF) though
[22:47] <PaulyPsychotic> thank you <ubotu>
[22:47] <ygorabreu> cuz ... using openoffice i can only do home-made..simple pdf files..i want more optins.. to make guides and stuff..more pro u know?
[22:47] <RazzoRz> Can  someone take a look at this !!!   http://pastebin.com/m777b6a6e
[22:47] <MrPink_> bascule: So can I somehow use the "mount" command to mount a network folder like: "mount /IP ADDRESS/folder /mnt/  ?
[22:47] <Scunizi> bascule, not what he's looking for I think.
[22:47] <confrey> I've tried many times, but gutsy deosnt' work on my toshy M40, it stop before gdm; in recovery mode too
thanks again :)
[22:47] <bascule> MrPink_: spot on
[22:48] <MrPink_> bascule: Does the Computer "name" work instead of IP too ?
[22:48] <danand> MrPink_ - smbmount //IP_ADDRESS/FOLDER /mnt/..
[22:48] <danand> MrPink_ - extra / !!
[22:48] <bascule> MrPink_: smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[22:49] <paladin_> can i make bitchx have a constant room users list on the side of the screen?
[22:49] <MrPink_> when I try to use smbmount it says I dont have it installed, when I try to install it says something about lock... o.O
[22:49] <bascule> !aptfix | MrPink_
[22:49] <ubotu> MrPink_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:50] <bascule> MrPink_: make sure synaptics/adept are closed before using shell commands
[22:50] <Sergo21> hi, anyone know any icq with video conference suppot.
[22:50] <Sergo21> support*
[22:50] <danand> MrPink_ - do you have any other processes running apt??
[22:50] <MrPink_> ah sry I didnt see Synaptic running.. :-/
[22:50] <danand> MrPink_ - agree with bascule
[22:51] <_Mercury_> Rejoice! Our Savior has come!
[22:51] <_Mercury_> http://eris.adivina.org/Christ_the_Lord
[22:51] <_Mercury_> (OMG I'm not spamming!! Help! Nazis!! Jeeeeefus!!!)
[22:51] <tumbleweed__> !!!!!
[22:51] <bascule> MrPink_: one other thing 'sudo modprobe smbfs', this allows the network driver for samba shares
[22:51] <tumbleweed__> stop being racist, _Mercury_
[22:51] <tumbleweed__> you're offending me
[22:51] <_Mercury_> omg raaaaaacist
[22:51] <RazzoRz> LMAO...
[22:52] <_Mercury_> tumbleweed__ is being racist, mooo
[22:52] <MrPink_> bascule: what does that mean?
[22:52] <bascule> MrPink_: one more thing, share names only work if they are in /etc/hosts and workgroup names are an issue too at times
[22:52] <_Mercury_> racism fnord racism
[22:52] <bascule> MrPink_: loads a driver
[22:52] <syntaxerror55> !ops | _Mercury_
[22:52] <ubotu> _Mercury_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[22:52] <RazzoRz> I am not Racist i have a Color Monitor!!
gonna head off now to eat dinner good meeting you next time I come on hopefully I won't be so tired and I will use more common sense :)
thanks again for the help
[22:52] <syntaxerror55> PaulyPsychotic: You're welcome. :D
[22:53] <Andeh> Hi. Does anyone know if I could use QEMU to boot an existing partition?
[22:53] <wilsong> hey
[22:53] <wilsong> can anyone tell me how to change the default port for pure-ftpd
[22:54] <wilsong> I know i can ps -aux, sudo kill -9 the pid that pure-ftpd is running, and then type pure-ftpd -S [port], but it starts at boot as 21, and id like to change it to start at boot to another port
[22:55] <bascule> wilsong: not in the manual page?
[22:55] <MrPink_> "No route to host" 7546: Connection to xxxxxx  failed
[22:55] <PriceChild> wilsong, its config file, probably in /etc/proftp or something will let you change that. (Just a guess) On another note... don't use ftp, its so incredibly insecure.
[22:55] <wilsong> well the manual i read showed me how to change it using the -S flag
[22:55] <paladin_> can i make bitchx have a constant room users list on the side of the screen?
[22:55] <zachalink> omg, my top toolbar disappeared!
[22:55] <zachalink> I can't close out programs by clicking the top now...
[22:56] <wilsong> PriceChild, i found the /etc/pure-ftpd/conf folder, but i dont see any files that apply that change
[22:56] <macogw> zachalink: what?
[22:56] <macogw> zachalink: your window borders you mean?
[22:56] <ompaul> macogw, panel
[22:56] <zachalink> yes
[22:56] <zachalink> the top stopped showing
[22:56] <hw194d> Andeh  its not an answer directly, but your question reminded me of this http://www.linux.com/feature/124908
[22:57] <BodOmLaW> gparted always says if cant make partitons, why is that?
[22:57] <macogw> zachalink: alt+f2 opens a runbox, type "metacity --replace" to restart the window manager or if you're using compiz "emerald --replace" to restart its decorator
[22:57] <puhhnah> +37255981349 here you can ask any questions about ubuntu and other talk too about world and sci-fi
[22:57] <hw194d> BodOmLaW the livecd ?
[22:57] <BodOmLaW> im running live
[22:57] <PriceChild> wilsong, then I would suggest you read the server's documentation. i also suggest you don't use ftp
[22:57] <noodlesgc> does anyone else have the pollycooke repository? is it stable?
[22:57] <BodOmLaW> im trying to install it
[22:57] <Ballena> how do I make fetchmail run automatically to fetch my mails?
[22:57] <BodOmLaW> with dmraid
[22:57] <zachalink> thank you so much
[22:57] <zachalink> bai
[22:58] <BodOmLaW> ???
[22:58] <h6mi1007> anyone know what the name of a slave drive is so i can mount it right?
[22:59] <rainwalker> is it safe to update my xserver-xorg-core yet?
[22:59] <loco_aullador> hi anyone knows where to get bootsplash? do i have to recompile de kernel (ubuntu 7.10) to use it?
[22:59] <RazzoRz> Can  someone take a look at this !!!   http://pastebin.com/m777b6a6e
[23:00] <loco_aullador> *the kernel, sorry
[23:00] <BodOmLaW> should I just change to fedora or some other raid supporded distro?
[23:00] <Starnestommy> rainwalker: probably
[23:00] <rainwalker> Starnestommy: I've been holding off doing it for a while...
[23:00] <macogw> loco_aullador: gnome-look.org would work. no you dnt have to recompile.  try startup-manager to make it easy to change them
[23:01] <Freddy_> whats the best irc client for GTK? are xchat the way to go?
[23:01] <macogw> h6mi1007: first disk is /dev/sda first partition of that disk is /dev/sda1 second drive is /dev/sdb 1st partition of that drive is /dev/sdb1 2nd partition of that drive is /dev/sdb2
[23:01] <loco_aullador> macogw, ok thanx, im using startup manager and splashy, but i dont like splashy, i want to try bootsplah
[23:01] <macogw> h6mi1007: extrapolate from there
[23:01] <PriceChild> !best | Freddy_
[23:01] <ubotu> Freddy_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[23:02] <danand> h6mi1007 - type sudo fdisk -l and see what the output is or look in /etc/fstab
[23:02] <BodOmLaW> should I just change to fedora or some other raid supporded distro?
[23:02] <h6mi1007> k
[23:02] <BodOmLaW> or can someone here help me with dmraid
[23:02] <macogw> Freddy_: i like xchat-gnome or irssi, but irssi isn't a gui program...it's a command line one
[23:03] <Freddy_> okay thanks, that bot is kind of harsh :)
[23:04] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hello, im back :) i was trying to install amsn from an installer, but gedit comes up saying it doesnt recognise the format. im guessing i need something to make it work
[23:04] <macogw> KKSlider1337: gedit???
[23:05] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: What? sudo apt-get install amsn
[23:05] <h6mi1007> great i see it is /dev/sdb1
[23:05] <Erik1> I just installed Ubutu and now I can log in with my own name, but I cannot log in as root...did I enter a root password during install ? it's 'desktop'....
[23:05] <BodOmLaW> everytime i try to install windows i get a blue screen of death when it trys to load
[23:05] <h6mi1007> when i tried to access the drive, it said it was unable to mount because of $logfile unclean shutdown
[23:05] <macogw> !sudoroot | erik1
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <syntaxerror55> !windows | BodOmLaW
[23:05] <ubotu> BodOmLaW: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[23:05] <macogw> !sudo | erik1
[23:05] <ubotu> erik1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[23:05] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hmm forget that. it keeps saying i need to update, although i checked and i actually have the latest version
[23:05] <BodOmLaW> k
[23:05] <Andeh> Would using rdesktop and qemu to seamlessly integrate windows programs into ubuntu run fast enough to do things like run music software?
[23:06] <danand> !root > erik1
[23:06] <Andeh> because I know the software runs fine under WINE, i'm just curious
[23:06] <syntaxerror55> Andeh: it depends on the amount of ram you have.
[23:07] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: aMSN does that, it did it to me to. There is a new unpackaged version available, which I can help you get if you want to. I've used it, and it's veru simple.
[23:07] <Andeh> syntaxerror55: is 4 GB enough?
[23:07] <macogw> KKSlider1337: did you try the autopackage?
[23:07] <Andeh> Lol
[23:07] <syntaxerror55> Andeh: more then enough
[23:07] <Andeh> syntaxerror55: I know :P I meant processor wise. I have intel E6550.
[23:08] <syntaxerror55> macogw: what I was going to recommend, by "unpackaged" I meant not a deb package ;D
[23:08] <Andeh> hmm
[23:08] <macogw> syntaxerror55: ah ok
[23:08] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: ok, cool
[23:08] <Andeh> you know, i could run windows music software on a crappy laptop faster under WINE than under Windows :)
[23:09] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: do you have the .package file?
[23:09] <Andeh> I wonder how it will work on this high end pc
[23:09] <syntaxerror55> Andeh: It should work fine. Why not give it a try?
[23:09] <sunseeker888> guys just had a problem, did ubuntu on suspend, then 10 later min later it would not power up, pressing any keys. i had to reset
[23:09] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: yes, i did
[23:09] <macogw> sunseeker888: are you using binary nvidia or ati drivers? if so, that's normal.
[23:10] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: right click the .package file and click "Properties"
[23:10] <sunseeker888> atu drivers
[23:10] <Scunizi> anyone care to speculate how seemless the upgrade process will be w/ Hardy if I have gdm & kdm installed?
[23:10] <macogw> sunseeker888: the fglrx one or the "radeon" one?
[23:10] <macogw> Scunizi: itll all just get updated
[23:10] <Streifenhoernche> atu? is his a new kind of graphic hardware? =)
[23:10] <dn4> what is a good .gif viewer so that I can see the animation?
[23:10] <PKdoR> can some one recomen a compaable mIRC replacement for linux?
[23:10] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: oh by the way. theres an 8.4 and a 8.5 version. which is the one i want?
[23:11] <KKSlider1337> for tcl/tk 8.4 or 8.5
[23:11] <Scunizi> macogw, I hope so.. last update borked and I had to do a clean install.  Fortunatly my /home is a seperate partition.
[23:11] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: 8.5
[23:11] <macogw> KKSlider1337: well .5  would be updated-er
[23:11] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: you already executed the autopackage? :|
[23:11] <noodlesgc> PKdoR you could use pidgin, but i like xchat-gnome
[23:11] <Andeh> syntaxerror55: Sure. I'll be back here in a few secs then. I installed windows and Ubuntu side by side but since I work on my music almost every day I ran WinXP more and more often and then I told grub to load it by default! I hate myself for doing that, i wasted about 30 hours dealing with things only windows users have to do.
[23:11] <macogw> Scunizi: well recently an update made a bunch of stuff go *segfault* so might now wanna do that right now
[23:11] <lostatsee> I keep getting an error when logging in about "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.
[23:11] <lostatsee> Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager."  Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:11] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: nah, couldnt get it to work
[23:11] <xobius> PKdoR, XChat or konversation
[23:12] <Andeh> So uh.. brb.
[23:12] <j4k4> hello
[23:12] <PKdoR> xobius: Im using pidgin but I don't really dig the IRC side of things
[23:12] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: right, what do i do in properties?
[23:12] <macogw> lostatsee: not sure how to make it work every time automatically, but you can hit alt+f2 to get a runbox and type gnome-settings-daemon and hit enter and it'll start
[23:12] <xobius> PKdoR, I'm using xchat
[23:12] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: go to the "Permissions" tab, and check the "Executable" next to "Owner"
[23:12] <macogw> PKdoR: i like xchat-gnome
[23:12] <dn4> !gf
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <dn4> !gif
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <sunseeker888> nood ATI Radeon X1250 1GB Hypermemory
[23:12] <PKdoR> xobius: Illgive that a try
[23:12] <arakthor> Anyone have any idea why, when running 2 X-servers, the 2nd one's windows will not have title bars at the top when using basic desktop effects?
[23:12] <dn4> hmm does anyone know how ot get a .gif file to work
[23:12] <PKdoR> xobius:  thanks
[23:13] <danbhfive> !askthebot > dn4
[23:13] <Scunizi> macogw, no.. I'd wait for stable to come out before updating.. I still have Dapper installed for access "just in case". (running Gutsy mostly)
[23:13] <lostatsee> macogw: That did work! LOL but I dont want to have to do that each time I boot.
[23:13] <sunseeker888> looks like i can not go to suspend, otherwise i will have to rest
[23:13] <fitztrev> Can I get some rsync help on this issue?  I'm having a really hard time with it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4251235#post4251235
[23:13] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: check execute?
[23:13] <syntaxerror55> dn4: what do you mean animated gifs don't work?
[23:13] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: yes.
[23:13] <dn4> how do I view it in procession?
[23:13] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: run, or run in terminal?
[23:14] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: just Run
[23:14] <dn4> cause loading a 25mb file and to not see it animated is rather annoying
[23:14] <h6mi1007> how can i get my graphics card drivers working? there a site i can see to do that? lol
[23:14] <macogw> sunseeker888: yeah the lack of suspend is ati's fault then.  you can either switch to open source drivers (which means no 3D) or not use suspend or you might be able to make it unload ati's drivers when it suspends and reload them when it comes back
[23:14] <syntaxerror55> dn4: It should work out of the box. :|
[23:14] <Ballena> is there a way to disable error mails sent by crontab on errors?
[23:14] <syntaxerror55> dn4: Double-click the image?
[23:15] <macogw> sunseeker888: add the module to MODULES in /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[23:15] <sunseeker888> maco cheers, 3D is for game? I do not. how do i switch to an open source one or geneirc like games
[23:15] <dn4> hmm really, I did not open any boxes!
[23:16] <lilg111111> can anybody help a begginer set up compiz for fiesty
[23:16] <macogw> sunseeker888: you can use vesa driver if you dont want 3d.  3d is needed for like compiz or opengl games (like frets on fire)
[23:16] <jusefina> can someone please tell me why ubuntu locks up after being idle for some time?
[23:16] <sunseeker888> maco sorry , i am very new just today, what are the command please
[23:17] <macogw> sunseeker888: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:17] <macogw> sunseeker888: when that file opens, type :%s/fglrx/vesa/
[23:17] <dn4>  gifview -a current_eit_171.gif  <-- worked
[23:17] <macogw> sunseeker888: then hit enter and type :wq
[23:17] <syntaxerror55> dn4: Still nothing? I think Ubuntu's default image manager may not do it, as in I was wrong. View it in Firefox.
[23:17] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: bah, it doesnt load now. "Load tKcXimage failed. this module is needed. please compile amsn first.
[23:17] <sunseeker888> cheers mate
[23:18] <macogw> sunseeker888: that changes what driver is in use and then if you hit ctrl alt backspace it restarts X so you're in vesa
[23:18] <Scunizi> Is there a way in Gusty to view shockwave flash files?
[23:18] <macogw> sunseeker888: alternatively, you can try the unloading thing
[23:18] <lilg111111> need help setting up compiz
[23:18] <Starnestommy> Scunizi: gnash?
[23:18] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: Yes. Gnash, the fixed Flash packge, etc.
[23:18] <macogw> sunseeker888: in which case you do sudo vim /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[23:18] <Scunizi> syntaxerror55, Starnestommy thanks I'll load it up.
[23:18] <macogw> sunseeker888: the vesa driver might mean lower resolution, so you might not like that.  the unloading thing is probably what to try first
[23:18] <fitztrev> !ask lilg111111
[23:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask lilg111111 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:19] <fitztrev> !ask | lilg111111
[23:19] <ubotu> lilg111111: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:19] <lz1gjd> could you tell me how to change the color of the background that appears after entering your credentials at the login screen.
[23:19] <dn4>  gifview -a *.gif  <--- EPIC!
[23:19] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: I'm not sure.
[23:19] <jusefina> can someone please tell me why ubuntu locks up after being idle for some time?
[23:19] <lz1gjd> i mean while loading gnome desktop after the password and usrname have been entered
[23:19] <macogw> sunseeker888: in acpi-support, you can type /MODULES and hit enter and itll go there. type $ to jump to the end of the line, then hit "a" to append to the line.  Type "fglrx" then hit Escape to leave insert mode.  type :wq to save and exit
[23:20] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd try gksu gdmsetup
[23:20] <Massiel> Escriba el texto aquí....
[23:20] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: never mind, thanks anyway.
[23:20] <dn4> Is there a way to make it so that the gifs being opened up only opened in a small area?
[23:20] <h6mi1007> i have some questions about remounting a ntfs harddrive in /etc/fstab file anyone help?
[23:20] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd by default i think its orange, but I changed mine to blue
[23:20] <macogw> sunseeker888: most people give help using nano instead of vim, but i dont really know how to use nano from memory...or how to do the "advanced" things like search & replace quickly....if nano can even do that
[23:20] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: You could try sudo build-dep amsn, and then attempt to compile amsn.
[23:20] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: er, rather sudo apt-get build-dep amsn
[23:20] <lz1gjd> and more importantly should i bother about my harddrive with gutsy , i ve been reading some spooky things about this.
[23:21] <richardjohn> !worksforme | sarixe
[23:21] <ubotu> sarixe: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:21] <richardjohn> I came here just to find out what that did
[23:21] <sunseeker888> etc/
[23:21] <KomiaPoika> how can i list installed packages?
[23:21] <syntaxerror55> !msgthebot | richardjohn
[23:21] <ubotu> richardjohn: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:22] <h6mi1007> will this work to mount my ntfs slave? (/dev/sdb1 /media/disk ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0)
[23:22] <richardjohn> I knew it existed! Someone referenced it in a Digg comment. I just wondered what it did.
[23:22] <richardjohn> Byebye
[23:22] <Xcell>  using a (M2V-MX SE) board with via graphics, how do I get off vessa?
[23:22] <noodlesgc> KomiaPoika you could just open synaptic and save changes (without making any)
[23:22] <bruenig> h6mi1007, yeah force isn't terribly necessary I don't imagine
[23:23] <Scunizi> Starnestommy, syntaxerror55 gnash worked great. thanks
[23:23] <h6mi1007> well it says i can't do it in terminal cause something about root
[23:23] <vdbnicolas> salut
[23:23] <lz1gjd> i mean i've read that with lapto.ps there's some quite often power up/down of the hdd which is supposed to be saving battery life but insted is shortening the hdd life significantly
[23:23] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: i uninstalled, then tried reinstalling. for some reason it failed the second time. says i need tcl scripting. is that a package i can get?
[23:23] <macogw> h6mi1007: does it say you need to be root? if so, type "sudo" before it
[23:23] <mouseboyx> What is the channel name that is for random chatter?
[23:24] <h6mi1007> oh ok
[23:24] <h6mi1007> thx
[23:24] <macogw> mouseboyx: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:24] <mouseboyx> Thanks macogw
[23:24] <sunseeker888> guys i can select the user name here? so they know i am chatting to them
[23:24] <lilg111111> !ask does anybody know how to set up compiz on fiesty
[23:24] <Xcell>  using a (M2V-MX SE) board with via graphics, how do I get off vessa?
[23:24] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: sudo apt-get build-dep amsn should work.
[23:24] <danbhfive> !tab | sunseeker888 is this what you are looking for?
[23:24] <ubotu> sunseeker888 is this what you are looking for?: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:24] <syntaxerror55> lilg111111: don't start questions with !ask
[23:25] <syntaxerror55> !compiz | lilg111111
[23:25] <ubotu> lilg111111: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:25] <Xcell> hey Dr_willis  using a (M2V-MX SE) board with via graphics, how do I get off vessa?
[23:25] <noodlesgc> does anyone know of an IRC channel for flamewars?
[23:25] <lz1gjd> i mean i've read that with lapto.ps there's some quite often power up/down of the hdd which is supposed to be saving battery life but insted is shortening the hdd life significantly
[23:25] <h6mi1007> uhh it says i gotta reset log file
[23:25] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd i heard that too
[23:25] <sunseeker888> ! tab ubotu
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:26] <h6mi1007> wtf
[23:26] <high-freq> is 10.xxx.xxx.xxx an internal ip range?
[23:26] <cwillu> yes
[23:26] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: says i need to insert the linux cd :S
[23:26] <h6mi1007> can i just hook up the ntfs drive on a win xp pc and delete the $logfile?
[23:26] <ompaul> !wtf | h6mi1007
[23:26] <ubotu> h6mi1007: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:26] <h6mi1007> sorry
[23:26] <high-freq> k
[23:26] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd i just turned off laptop_mode and buohg the baddest battery on the market, then turned down my backlight
[23:27] <warriorforgod> Is ther a channel dedicated to hardy, or is the ubuntu-devel?
[23:27] <noodlesgc> *bought
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: that's one thing it should not be doing.
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> !hardy | warriorforgod
[23:27] <ubotu> warriorforgod: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:27] <lz1gjd> yes, ive read it at many places, but i guess it should be easily fixed with some update, all i wanna know if its fixed in gutsy with all current updates
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[23:27] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: ha.
[23:27] <warriorforgod> syntaxerror55: thx
[23:27] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: sorry i keep asking you for help btw
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: in fact, I've never even heard of that happening.
[23:27] <danbhfive> !msgthebot > sunseeker888
[23:27] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: not a problem
[23:28] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd I dont know if it is fixed, but i dont trust it.
[23:28] <h6mi1007> so like am i *****?
[23:28] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: i think i read somewhere you can untick the cd option from an options menu so it doesnt ask you
[23:28] <mrthaggar> Hello all.
[23:28] <macogw> lz1gjd: the hard drive thing only happens if you enable laptop mode
[23:28] <sunseeker888> !msgthebot > ubotu
[23:28] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: it said you needed the cd when you typed sudo apt-get build-dep amsn?
[23:28] <mrthaggar> I've just install Ubuntu with Wubi, and I'm having a problem with my display, is there anybody who could help me out?
[23:28] <lz1gjd> well i have a laptop hp 530
[23:29] <sunseeker888> i do not know whta i am doing, LOL
[23:29] <KKSlider1337> yeh, it started doing some stuff then said insert the cd
[23:29] <lz1gjd> how do i check if its in laptop mode
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> sunseeker888: Stop.
[23:29] <danbhfive> !enablesources | KKSlider1337
[23:29] <ubotu> KKSlider1337: Enable the standard Ubuntu repositories by going to System > Administration > Software Sources - See !repositories for detailed information
[23:29] <macogw> lz1gjd: the hdd manufacturers set their drives so that it does bad things by default.  ubuntu doesnt override those by default in laptop mode.  it doesnt happen at all in laptop mode.  laptop mode is disabled by default.  if you didn't enable it, it's disabled.  you can change the hdd's settings if you wanna use laptop mode using hdparm
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> danbhfive: Thank you. I forgot that could be it
[23:29] <paladin_> i plan to format. Can i export a list of my apt-installed programs so that I can reinstall them easily in the next installation?
[23:29] <dammm> Hey guys how can I disable my ethernet port on boot (im using laptop and wifi) ?
[23:29] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd just type laptop_mode stop to be sure
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: it's because you don't have the universe and ultiverse repos enabled.
[23:30] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  if thats a nvidia card check the !nvidia factoid to see what one of the nvidia drivers its to be using.  glx, glx-legacy, or the newer.  i guess..  That card dosent sound famuler to me at all.
[23:30] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: there is a checkbox next to cd in the repositories options. i think it would help if i unticked that. everything else is ticked except source
[23:30] <macogw> lz1gjd: i meant "it doesnt happen at all if laptop mode is disabled"....so the bad things dont happen without laptop modoe
[23:30] <Xcell> Dr its an  using a (M2V-MX SE) board with via graphics, how do I get off vessa?
[23:30] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: yeah, untick that. Tick Universe, Multiverse, etc.
[23:30] <Xcell> mobo
[23:30] <Dr_willis> paladin_,  thats doable with some of the apt-get commands. Theres a factoid on it. let me see if i can find it.
[23:30] <Dr_willis> !backup | paladin_
[23:30] <ubotu> paladin_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[23:30] <Sonja> it says "no images found" when i connect my camera to ubuntu. works fine in winxp, but ubuntu can't read the images off the camera :( :( halp?
[23:30] <noodlesgc> paladin_ open synaptic and click file->save markings
[23:30] <Dr_willis> paladin_,  Bmm thats not it.
[23:30] <mrthaggar> Could anyone point me to any documentation on being able to fix display problems with an older ati gfx card?
[23:31] <Dr_willis> !clone
[23:31] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: what model camera is it
[23:31] <Gibb> Can I install KDE style applications in Xubuntu?
[23:31] <h6mi1007> anyone know how i can reste a $logfile?
[23:31] <Dr_willis> There we go. See the !clone factoid for another way.
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> Gibb: Yes.
[23:31] <lz1gjd> macogw: do i have to run laptop_mode stop after each restart
[23:31] <dammm> Hey guys how can I disable my ethernet port on boot (im using laptop and wifi) ?/
[23:31] <Gibb> syntaxerror55:  are there any weird things to it?
[23:31] <noodlesgc> lz1gjd no.
[23:31] <Sonja> syntaxerror55 olympus fe-100 with xd memory
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> Gibb: Nope. Just sudo apt-get install kdeapp
[23:31] <Xcell> Dr_willis:  its a mobo,  using a (M2V-MX SE) board with via graphics, how do I get off vessa?
[23:31] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: I'll see if it's supported. one sec
[23:32] <macogw> lz1gjd: it doesnt start by default
[23:32] <Sonja> thanks syntaxerror55. if it's not, then i'm screwed! :)
[23:32] <macogw> lz1gjd: did you explicitly turn it on?  if not, it's not running
[23:32] <Dr_willis> Xcell,  I have no idea on VIA video cards.
[23:32] <Gibb> syntaxerror55: Im using the graphical installer, "add/remove applications" is it ok to install it that route?
[23:32] <Dr_willis> !via
[23:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:32] <lz1gjd> macogw: i did not. thanx ;)
[23:32] <Parsec300> !splash
[23:32] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[23:32] <Xcell> its not a card
[23:32] <syntaxerror55> Gibb: absolutely
[23:32] <Xcell> on board vid
[23:32] <Dr_willis> via has its own video chipset.
[23:32] <mrthaggar> Does anyone in here use Wubi as their means of installing Ubuntu?
[23:33] <Xcell> i know
[23:33] <lz1gjd> btw gutsy s running perfectly with my hp 530 :)
[23:33] <Gibb> syntaxerror55: excellent. thanks for the info. Does it show up in the applications menu after installed as well though?
[23:33] <HAL9090> !crap
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <macogw> lz1gjd: cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode <-- if that says 0, it's off
[23:33] <HAL9090> :/
[23:33] <Xcell> !via
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <syntaxerror55> Gibb: it should. you worry too much ;D
[23:33] <Gibb> syntaxerror55: hehe, thx
[23:33] <sunseeker888> guys I have a microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse , will ubuntu detect it?
[23:33] <Xcell> !suck
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suck - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <syntaxerror55> Gibb: the one time I used Xfce it did, so it is 99% probable that it will.
[23:33] <nicolah> little OT about PDF files: I need to be sure about the result of printing a document in a computer which use a software that may be different from the one I used to write that document. Will export to pdf files be of any help preventing weird printing ? thanks
[23:33] <sunseeker888> I am using ps2 now
[23:33] <lz1gjd> thx it is off indeed ;)
[23:34] <noodlesgc> sunseeker888 it should
[23:34] <macogw> sunseeker888: yes, they work fine
[23:34] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: It's your lucky day. It's supported.
[23:34] <macogw> sunseeker888: at least, mine did. til it died.
[23:34] <Sonja> great success!!!
[23:34] <sunseeker888> cheers guys
[23:34] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: sudo apt-get install gphoto2
[23:34] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: well, it did a bunch of stuff
[23:34] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: not sure what exactly
[23:34] <HAL9090> !anything,Dude.
[23:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything,dude. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:34] <soldats> !msgthebot > HAL9090
[23:35] <lz1gjd> is there a good gtk based mplayer frontend, something better than totem ? something like what is smplayer with qt
[23:35] <HAL9090> ...
[23:35] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: it was downloading the development packages for aMSN. Since the .package isn't working for you, although it's odd, you're forced to compile it.
[23:36] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: so, what do i do now? the terminal looks to have finished what it was doing
[23:36] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: you need the amsn source.
[23:36] <HAL9090> is there a way to easily change the window transparency of a non-focused window?
[23:36] <Scunizi> What program is associated with a .js file... Java script?
[23:36] <gmcastil> Scunizi: yeah
[23:36] <syntaxerror55> Scunizi: Yup
[23:37] <Scunizi> gmcastil, syntaxerror55 i just downloaded a Mac widget for showing local traffic.  Any chance I can get it working on ubuntu?
[23:37] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: just downloading the source
[23:37] <mrthaggar> Is there a way of editing the xconf if I installed Ubuntu to a virtual disk?
[23:37] <axel_s> Hi, how do I configure sudo so that it can be used without having to enter my password?
[23:38] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: after that, untar it, and try to compile. If this doesn't work, I have no idea.
[23:38] <Scunizi> mrthaggar, you mean editing xorg? as in the live cd?
[23:38] <gmcastil> Scunizi: wow...probably not without a recompile (if it's open source)
[23:38] <syntaxerror55> axel_s: you do NOT want to do that.
[23:38] <gmcastil> Scunizi: are you looking for a traffic analyzer?
[23:38] <Scunizi> gmcastil, gmcastil yes.
[23:38] <gmcastil> Scunizi: Wireshark
[23:39] <mrthaggar> Errr I might do :)
[23:39] <Scunizi> gmcastil, cool.. in apt? synaptic?
[23:39] <gmcastil> Scunizi: if you want a gui analyzer, wireshark is the way to go
[23:39] <syntaxerror55> axel_s: the reason Linux is secure in the first place is because of sudo.
[23:39] <gmcastil> Scunizi: should be, yeah - its a standard network tool
[23:39] <mrthaggar> I'm very new to Ubuntu, and linux in general, I just installed it using Wubi and the display is all corrupt, so I can't see what I'm doing once it boots up
[23:39] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: ok, how do i compile it?
[23:39] <gmcastil> Scunizi: nmap is also really useful for mapping and testing ports
[23:39] <Some_Person> Can I save an AVI in Avidemux with the Cinepak codec? If so, how?
[23:39] <Scunizi> gmcastil, haha .. actually a different kind of traffic analysis.. mobile as in on the freeway :)
[23:39] <axel_s> syntaxerror55, I know... Been doing it years before with Slackware etc... Just can't remember the configuration syntax ;-)
[23:39] <syntaxerror55> axel_s: without it, you're always root, and anyone that can use an XChat/Pidgin IRC exploit script can get in. You do not want to do that.
[23:40] <DanThirst> im running 7.10, i have the adobe flash plugin installed but swf files arn't playing (video on youtube) any suggestions?
[23:40] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: have you untarred it?
[23:40] <gmcastil> DanThirst: are you running 64 bit?
[23:40] <syntaxerror55> !flashissues | DanThirst
[23:40] <ubotu> DanThirst: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[23:40] <DanThirst> gmcastil: no 32
[23:40] <gmcastil> Scunizi: explain
[23:40] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: yeh its in my home directory
[23:40] <macogw> DanThirst: videos on youtube are flv, not swf
[23:40] <Lektus> Know anything about hlds (half-life dedicated server) and ubuntu server anyone? and how to set it up?
[23:40] <Some_Person> macogw, DanThirst: see topic
[23:40] <Scunizi> gmcastil, it's just a widget for looking at Caltrans traffice congestion on the roadways around different cities.
[23:40] <axel_s> syntaxerror55, the reason is that I'd like to be able to give xmms a command for the goodnight plugin so that it can shutdown by itself
[23:40] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: this has to be done in terminal. Sorry. go into terminal and cd to the Amsn directory.
[23:40] <Arceye> can I have a little help with getting some wmv files that don't work properly ?
[23:41] <axel_s> syntaxerror55, I mean shut down the computer
[23:41] <gmcastil> Scunizi: link to the page please?
[23:41] <sunseeker888> how much ram is recommended for ubuntu 64 bits? i have 2 GB, i want to add another 4GB? is it worthy?
[23:41] <Scunizi> gmcastil, http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/transportation/trafficgaugewidget.html
[23:41] <bad_cables> has anyone ever compiled something with scons?
[23:41] <DanThirst> i had it working before i just cant remeber what i did
[23:41] <gmcastil> sunseeker888: yes
[23:41] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: sorry to be a total noob. cd to the directory?
[23:41] <syntaxerror55> axel_s: well, I don't know, as I've never explored it.
[23:41] <gmcastil> sunseeker888: i have 4 GB with 64-bit
[23:41] <mouseboyx> sunseeker888, unless you are doing extreem multitasking id say no imo.
[23:41] <syntaxerror55> bad_cables: yup
[23:41] <DanThirst> i just formatted this machine so
[23:41] <Some_Person> sunseeker888: 2GB is more than I've ever used on any machine
[23:41] <bad_cables> i get "sh: o: found" with scons
[23:41] <axel_s> syntaxerror55, ok, thanks anyway!
[23:41] <bad_cables> or... not found
[23:42] <noodlesgc> Arceye what player?
[23:42] <gmcastil> Scunizi: oh...its an actual mac app...probably not usable, but there might be a GNU piece that's similar
[23:42] <axel_s> syntaxerror55, but I completely understand your concerns
[23:42] <Some_Person> Can I save an AVI in Avidemux with the Cinepak codec? If so, how?
[23:42] <Arceye> mplayer
[23:42] <bad_cables> Syntaxerror55: what is sh: o: not found?
[23:42] <wigamuffin> part/ #ubuntu
[23:42] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: "cd" is a Linux command to change the current working directory in a Linux shell.
[23:42] <Sonja> syntaxerror55 thanks, so how do i grab my photos now?
[23:42] <lz1gjd> after changin the background color with gdmsetup but still when the gnome desktop starts loading i get a orange screen. does anyone happen to know how i can fix this ?
[23:42] <noodlesgc> Some_Person im pretty sure you can save as avi by default
[23:42] <axel_s> wigamuffin, /part #ubuntu
[23:42] <syntaxerror55> bad_cables: I don't know. I just remember having to struggle with it, change some things in the script, etc. A real pain.
[23:43] <Scunizi> gmcastil, k.. thanks.
[23:43] <Some_Person> noodlesgc: using cinepak codec? i dont see the setting
[23:43] <brenden> you are
[23:43] <bad_cables> the SConstruct script?
[23:43] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: type cd and then the name of the directory amsn is in. Just like in IRC, you can type amsn and press tab and it will probably do the same thing.
[23:43] <syntaxerror55> bad_cables: yes.
[23:43] <gmcastil> Scunizi: you might try googling for some of the keywords on the apple page (with linux)
[23:43] <ramox> does grub support graphical menus ?
[23:43] <gmcastil> ramox: not gui stuff
[23:43] <gmcastil> ramox: what are you trying to do?
[23:44] <Scunizi> gmcastil, not really a big deal. I was more curious than anything.  The same company has a widget to load in FF on my google home page.
[23:44] <ramox> gmcastil lilo supports a graphic menu list   all i have been able to get out of grub so far is a plain text list
[23:44] <bad_cables> syntaxerror55: so i should just look on the scons site to figure this out because i have SDL installed but i dont even know my targe architecture
[23:44] <linchapulin> Hey folks
[23:45] <bad_cables> i think it is set to win32
[23:45] <jack-desktop> what does the "-f" mean in this line: if [[ ! -f ~/.raining ]]; then
[23:45] <gmcastil> ramox: plain text files are standard for configuration in linux
[23:45] <Sonja> syntaxerror55 do i have to reboot ubuntu for it to recognize the camera when i plug it in or something?
[23:45] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: if not exist ~/.raining
[23:45] <Some_Person> noodlesgc: if it cant use cinepak, can you recommend a small-size, playable-on-mac codec?
[23:45] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: I'm really sorry this is happening to you. D: I've never even heard of these errors. If it's a big deal, you can tell autopackage to remove te amsn you got from it, and then install Ubuntu's old package
[23:45] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: sorry, I didn't see your msg. No, don't do that, it's very simple
[23:45] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: type gphoto2 --get-all-files
[23:45] <linchapulin> I used Synaptic to install kde4, but it doesn't start from gdm login..says it can't run kde binary...Is there a current wiki, or forum post on how to get kde4 installed and working?
[23:45] <jack-desktop> gmcastil, i know what ! means, but does the -f represent file?
[23:46] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: the -f means file, the ! means not exist, so basically, if it can't find that file, it does the following block of code
[23:46] <ramox> gmcastil n.a.  i'm talking about the screen you view when selecting what os you want to boot.
[23:46] <Arceye> noodlesgc: mplayer
[23:46] <Sonja> syntaxerror55 so when the "import photos" dialog window opens up automatically and thinks there's no photos on the camera, i should just ignore it or close it?
[23:46] <jack-desktop> gmcastil, k thanks.
[23:46] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: btw
[23:46] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: -d means directory
[23:46] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: yes, ignore it. use the command-line based gphoto2. My Canon PowerShot A460 does the same thing.
[23:46] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: there are a bunch of other things that you'll find too
[23:47] <themunkee> hey, I have a newbie question; how can i see what sound drivers I'm using?
[23:47] <Sonja> i got gphoto2 --get-all-files
[23:47] <Sonja> oops i got *** Error (-35: 'Error writing to the port') ***
[23:47] <linchapulin> themunkee:: lsmod
[23:47] <themunkee> thanks linchapulin
[23:47] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: thanks for being a big help. at the moment im struggling to type the directory right, ive tried "cd home/name/amsn-0.97 which didnt work. im guessing thats wrong :)
[23:47] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: sadly, I can't help there. I saw that your cam was supported, so it should in theory work. Try the channel #gphoto
[23:48] <Sakkath> hey--trying to install kubuntu. using vmware to mount the iso, checked integrity--is fine. but when i try to boot it, it won't display on my 1440x900 monitor (geforce 8800gts 512
[23:48] <gmcastil> KKSlider1337: you need to have an / before that patname
[23:48] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: nah, that's wrong. the Linux command line is meant to minimize typing and maximize functionality
[23:48] <linchapulin> themunkee:: np
[23:48] <Sonja> syntaxerror55 what does that error mean?
[23:48] <mrthaggar> I've got an ATI Mobility 128 AGP onboard gfx card in my laptop, and Ubuntu boots to a corrupt display, anyone got any suggestions?
[23:48] <Sakkath> hey--trying to install kubuntu. using vmware to mount the iso, checked integrity--is fine. but when i try to boot it, it won't display on my 1440x900 monitor (geforce 8800gts 512MB) the boot screen shows up as 1280x1024 but even using F4 to set it to that (x32) it doesn't work. i'm clueless.
[23:49] <syntaxerror55> Sonja: Gphoto can't write to the port your camera is on. I don't know any fix.
[23:49] <gmcastil> Sakkath: try the safe mode option
[23:49] <themunkee> linchapulin: actually, there's a bunch of sound stuff in there, how do i know which one?
[23:49] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: youre in ~ (your home folder in Linux)
[23:49] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: so type cd amsn, press tab, it will complete the folder name, and press enter.
[23:49] <themunkee> linchapulin: I actually was just wondering whether i had alsa or not
[23:49] <Slart> dammm: disable your ethernet port.. well.. you can always do "sudo ifdown eth0" .. don't know how much disabled the ethernet port gets but it will stop all network activity on it
[23:50] <linchapulin> mrthaggar:: try installing from a different login with gui...then apt-get install the fglrx driver for ATI cards
[23:50] <Sciri> Sakkath: Once kubuntu is installed you can then install VMWare tools which will allow you to explicitly set the resolution of your monitor.
[23:50] <Slart> oh.. sorry.. forgot to scroll.. very late answer, dammm =)
[23:50] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: ok, i presume im in the right folder at last
[23:50] <linchapulin> themunkee:: Are you using a default install..then you are using ALSA
[23:50] <themunkee> it's xubuntu, guess that counts too?
[23:50] <linchapulin> however to answer your other question just a sec..
[23:50] <mrthaggar> Linchapulin: I can't even see to log in :) I've tried logging in but it keeps telling it's the wrong username/password, how many boxes are there on the login screen?
[23:51] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: name@name-pc:~/amsn-0.97$
[23:51] <iceman_> what is the command to format a drive. I need to formatt my usb
[23:52] <Slart> iceman_: mkfs perhaps
[23:52] <linchapulin> themunkee:: lsmod shows you the sound modules loaded amongst the other items...mine is vmix    ossusb             hdaudio    osscore     vmix,ossusb,hdaudio
[23:52] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: liated/seeker/x-838755) has left channel #ubuntu
[23:52] <gmcastil> ERC> jack-desktop: liated/seeker/x-838755) has left channel #ubuntu
[23:52] <gmcastil> ERC> jack-desktop: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN20187
[23:53] <mohbana> is there a replacement program to play .rm real media files?
[23:53] <linchapulin> mrthaggar:: One sec..
[23:53] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: can you please register your nick? you'll need to do a good bit of pasting which will flood this channel, and I think I can better help you compile a program in private message.
[23:53] <jack-desktop> gmcastil, wtf was that/
[23:53] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: sorry bout that wierd paste - check out that link for a nice concise description of those parameters
[23:53] <linchapulin> themunkee:: So if you want to list your devices you do lspci
[23:53] <jack-desktop> gmcastil, ah, thanks.
[23:53] <themunkee> ah, that helps; thanks
[23:53] <Sakkath> Sciri: i'm not installing on vmware, i only used it to see if the integrity of the CD was ok. i'm trying to dual boot on my windows system which has the 'bios raid' (i guess that's another form of sw raid?) with nvraid--raid0, can i view my windows files from ubuntu & can i install ok? the main problem is the gfx at the moment
[23:54] <gmcastil> jack-desktop: yeah...the document it comes from is *real* helpful with understanding bash scripting
[23:54] <ramox> does anyone know off hand if grub can display pictures as background for the menu ?
[23:54] <gmcastil> Sakkath: you can check the integrity of the cd on boot
[23:54] <Sakkath> ramox: yes, xpm images
[23:54] <gmcastil> ramox: http://www.google.com/search?q=grub+xpm+background&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[23:54] <mrthaggar> Is there a way of starting ubuntu in a 'safe mode'?
[23:54] <Sakkath> gmcastil: i know this, but it won't display on my monitor, so i was unable to; just to make sure the cd wasn't the problem, i mounted the iso on vmware... oh that's the iso, guess i gotta check the dvd damn i'm an idiot.
[23:54] <Arpi> connect irc.ftn.nl
[23:54] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: look at the boot options
[23:54] <gmcastil> Sakkath: ya.. :)
[23:55] <linchapulin> mrthaggar:: You should be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F4 to get to a non graphical login
[23:55] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: i think its the 2nd or 3rd option
[23:55] <mrthaggar> Do I do that once it's booted up, or just after POST?
[23:55] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: look at the boot options
[23:55] <themunkee> linchapulin:  Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)       does that sound right?
[23:56] <mrthaggar> I don't think I got any saw any boot options :)  Just the loading bar with the logo.
[23:56] <kapace> ubuntu install broke my winxp :|
[23:56] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: are you there?
[23:56] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: yes
[23:56] <linchapulin> themunkee: Looks like you found it alright then...I can't answer since I don't have your computer/laptop
[23:56] <joseph> OMYEGAH MDOD
[23:56] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: are you booting from the cd?
[23:56] <kapace> it says that ntldr is missing
[23:56] <joseph> MY FIRST TIME USING LINUX!!!!
[23:56] <mrthaggar> No I've installed Ubuntu with Wubi.
[23:56] <joseph> i love it
[23:56] <joseph> im a noob
[23:56] <joseph> im sorry
[23:57] <joseph> so who wants to tell me some sweet linux commands
[23:57] <usr13_> mrthaggar: You have to hit the Esc key when it first goes to grub
[23:57] <gmcastil> joseph: capslock is not cruise control for cool
[23:57] <rsk> joseph: i forgive you
[23:57] <rsk> joseph: what do you want to doo?
[23:57] <mrthaggar> usr13: Sorry mate, what is 'grub' :)
[23:57] <soldats> gmcastil, wrong it is, but not appropriate here
[23:57] <usr13_> joseph: what do you need?
[23:57] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: hmm, can you see what i write to you in private chat?
[23:57] <usr13_> josiah: "Where do you want to go today."
[23:58] <gmcastil> kapace: http://www.google.com/search?q=ntldr+is+missing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
[23:58] <Parsec300> How can I update the restricted nVidia drivers when they come out?
[23:58] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: No. /msg nickserv register Password to register.
[23:58] <mohbana> is there a replacement program to play .rm real media files?
[23:58] <mrthaggar> I'll go and have a play around, thanks for the advice everybody!!
[23:58] <linchapulin> mrthaggar:: grub is the bootloader that chooses which OS to boot amongst other things
[23:58] <rsk> mohbana: mplayer
[23:58] <syntaxerror55> KKSlider1337: and for future reference, /msg nickserv id Password to identify as your nick
[23:58] <themunkee> mrthaggar: grub is the boot loader
[23:58] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: Grand ReUnified Bootloader
[23:58] <mrthaggar> Oh I don't have grub in that case, I have the standard windows XP boot loader.
[23:58] <usr13_> mohbana: RealPlayer
[23:58] <ramox> Sakkath & gmcastil thank you.
[23:58] <gmcastil> mrthaggar: windows doesn't have a boot loader
[23:58] <gmcastil> ramox: yup, np
[23:59] <mohbana> usr13, something other than real player im going to try mplayer
[23:59] <Parsec300> !wow
[23:59] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[23:59] <usr13_> mohbana: Why do you not want to use RealPlayer?
[23:59] <mrthaggar> I've installed Ubuntu using a thing called Wubi, it creates a virtual disk and installs it as an application, then adds the option to boot into Ubuntu at startup
[23:59] <KKSlider1337> syntaxerror55: nickserv i replace with my nickname? and do i type that in this chat room (im not an expert at irc either im afraid)