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iceman_thanks00:00
NickPrestaunagi_, alternately, open up Konqueror and type: man:mencoder00:00
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unagi_my god00:06
unagi_lole00:06
unagi_its -mf type=jpg not mf=type=jpg00:06
[ka]killerhey00:07
[ka]killerwas wondering how i change the default file browser from dolphin back to konquor00:07
tekteen!dolphin00:07
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.00:07
[ka]killerthanks00:08
tekteennp00:08
FaiDillinGerdoes anyone know how can i make the num.lock active at loginscreen ??00:08
mefisto__FaiDillinGer: system settings> keyboard and mouse00:08
FaiDillinGerthx mefisto__00:09
FaiDillinGerdoes anyone know how can i make the window key pop up the kmenu ??00:11
NickPrestaFaiDillinGer, I forget how to make it accept just the Win key but you can easily bind the KMenu to the Win key plus another key.00:15
flipstarFaiDillinGer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/panel.html#id255273400:16
NickPrestaah, they removed the ability to just set the Win key unless you remap the Win key..00:17
FaiDillinGerthx00:19
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intelikeyis it possable to get an .xpm to execute code ?    splash screen for example ?00:27
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intelikey#kubuntu is dead.     long live #kubuntu!00:35
tekteenlol00:36
achillesi forgot the name of a html editing program it completes tags for you anyone know the name? thanks00:37
intelikeyquanta ?00:38
intelikeyi forgot too.00:38
achillesno it had html something00:38
achillesbut thanks00:38
achillesthe icon was a face of a guy screaming00:38
intelikeyscreem ?00:39
achilleslet me check00:39
intelikeyscreem - A GNOME website development environment00:39
achillesyes!!!! thank you much:)00:40
intelikeywelcome.00:40
intelikeykdevelop3 - An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version    if you like "ide"'s00:40
achillesthanks ill take a look later;)00:41
achillesintelikey is kubuntu the same as ubuntu but with kde?00:45
intelikeyyep00:45
achillesok:) I was using ubuntu but i could never get my dailup working but with kubuntu i could because of kppp:)00:45
intelikeyinteresting.   wvdial should have worked for either install00:46
intelikeyin fact i can get wvdial to work on systems that kppp fails on....00:47
achilles:O00:47
achillesit never worked for me:(00:47
intelikey          some         ^00:47
achillesfor some reason kppp always works for me00:48
bohemioaluien de chile00:48
intelikey!cl00:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:48
intelikeywhat language is that ?00:49
intelikey!pr00:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:49
vzduch!es00:49
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.00:49
intelikey!br00:50
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.00:50
vzduchthere was a g missing to make 'alguien'00:50
intelikeyah.00:50
romunovi'm having problems with my kubuntu. i once put my machine to hybernate, but open restart it never woke up00:50
achillesoh lol ok :)00:50
achillesnow i understand:)00:50
romunovi could only login via the command line and startx00:50
romunovbut i don't have shutdown or any other commands now00:51
romunovi can't switch users either00:51
romunovother than going to the command promp and switching users00:51
intelikeyromunov kdm messed up again ?00:51
achilleshow do i make firefox my defualt browser ? i dont wont kconqurer:P00:51
Taggnostrachilles, in the firefox options?00:52
achillesfor the system00:52
draikI received a RAR file with a password. I have the password, but how do I use it to let me extract the RAR's content?00:52
Taggnostrthere should be a button "make firefox my default browser" or something similar00:52
achillesok ill try00:53
intelikeyachilles well you could change the alternative /usr/bin/x-www-browser     ether via the gui  "kcontrol i think"  or the cli update-alternatives i think00:53
intelikeyor edit by hand.   or....    (probably a long list goes here)00:53
flipstardraik: just use unrar e <filename> you'll be asked later for passwd or for a gui.. use file-roller or similar00:54
draikflipstar: Thanks00:54
flipstarbye im out00:59
achillesthanks everyone bye:)00:59
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unagi_anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov01:01
intelikeywoops what do you do when update-alternatives --all  does this to you http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5fd476ac ???01:04
jeremeunagi_: iphoto? ;)01:05
unagi_.....?01:05
replmanHi! I have a problem watching video on my system. Each time i open mythtv, mplayer, ..., X11 crashes, nvidia-screen pops up and then the login of kde is shown. This worked already some weeks ago01:07
Daisuke-Idothe obvious question is: what's changed between then and now?01:08
Daisuke-Idohave you perhaps gone to one of the compositing window managers?  are you using kde 3 or 4?01:08
mefisto__I can't seem to get my login screen resolution to change. it's always 1024x768, but after login it is (sort of) correctly set to 1280x1024, although fonts and icons are too large. If I log out and in again, the login screen is 1280x1024, and after login the fonts and icons are the right size.01:09
replmanI don't know. Each time the kubuntu update-manager shows that an update is available i do the update01:09
replmanmaybe some weeks ago x11 was also in the update, but i'm not sure01:09
replmani use kde301:10
replman3.5.601:10
FaiDillinGeryo . i have an external usb drive with an ext3 filesystem on it.  the hardrive is always plugged to the computer. i use as a mount point /media/disk, but when i reboot and browse to /media/disk, no files appear. i have to mount it. how can i make it mounted automaticcaly please ??01:10
Daisuke-Idomefisto__: are you using a custom kdm theme?01:10
Daisuke-Ido!automount | FaiDillinGer01:11
Dr_willis!fstab | FaiDillinGer01:11
ubotuFaiDillinGer: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:11
intelikeymefisto__ you may not like my sujestion.  but, try gdm.01:11
intelikeyi'm not a gnome'r but gdm beats kdm hands down  imo01:11
Daisuke-Idoreplman: other question still up in the air - are you using compiz or beryl?01:11
replmanDaisuke-Ido: no01:11
mefisto__intelikey: you mean just for login? or give up on kde?01:12
intelikeyjust the login01:12
FaiDillinGerthx Dr_willis but the auto option is already set ??01:12
FaiDillinGerUUID=86c76468-f081-4e88-a068-8d60c04d96c4 /media/disk auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 001:12
intelikeymefisto__ it's as simple to try as   sudo apt-get install gdm      and just as easy to undo.01:13
mefisto__intelikey: I like that very much actually. I have xfce installed so gdm is there. how do I make gdm the login?01:13
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replmanI'm going to try starting a plain X11 without kde (xinit) and try to play something there. I'll be back and reporting01:13
Daisuke-Idomefisto__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm01:13
intelikeymefisto__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm01:13
mefisto__and how do I undo that if it doesn't work out? reconfigure kdm?01:14
intelikeyok quick draw.  i'll go back to playing with a script kiddy, seeing that i'm not needed here  ;/01:14
Daisuke-Idomefisto__: change gdm to kdm01:14
Daisuke-Idointelikey: nah, i'm actually going to play some dumb games :)01:14
intelikeyno no. it's all yours.01:14
mefisto__sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, right?01:14
intelikeyyes01:15
intelikeymefisto__ reconfiguring any of the ?dm family will give you the menu to choose which you want to use.01:15
mefisto__Daisuke-Ido: how would I change themes? do you mean the login theme?01:15
Daisuke-Idonot entirely sure when it comes to gdm01:20
mefisto__and for kdm?01:20
WorkingOnWisedoes amarok work with there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos01:20
WorkingOnWiseoopsss...01:20
intelikeyhehhe01:20
WorkingOnWiseI mwant......01:21
WorkingOnWise there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos01:21
intelikeyi resemble that remark WorkingOnWise01:21
WorkingOnWisewow....I'm just gona step slowly afk....01:21
WorkingOnWise:)01:21
intelikey:)01:21
WorkingOnWiseties this "windows" keyboard...01:22
WorkingOnWiseit keeps moving the keys on me....01:22
intelikeyyou would be surprised how many times i have started to hit [enter] and realized that i had changed topics in the middle of my post...01:22
WorkingOnWiselol..u too?01:23
intelikeyas i said <intelikey> i resemble that remark WorkingOnWise01:23
WorkingOnWiselol01:23
draikNot sure how or why, but all of my GRUB options have been removed. How do I get them back? All I have is Memtest86+01:23
WorkingOnWiseso, i know I have apache something installed...how can I tell if it's 1.x or 2.x?01:24
intelikeyupdate-grub   maybe ?01:24
draikintelikey: Where?01:24
intelikeyhttpd --version ?01:24
intelikeyguessing.01:24
intelikeydraik cli01:24
draikI can get a GRUB> command line, but that's it.01:24
mefisto__I think sudo update-grub will do it01:24
WorkingOnWiselol...good guess but nope....01:25
intelikeyWorkingOnWise ok.  dpkg -l | grep apache01:25
draikintelikey: mefisto__: It says "Unrecognized command"01:25
mefisto__oh, you can't boot without an entry in grub01:25
draikmefisto__: Right. How do I get it back?01:26
replman  Hi!01:26
WorkingOnWiseintelikey: or http://localhost:8080  :)01:26
intelikeydraik ah you mean you can't boot.   you need to tell it the root (hd0,0)    kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1    initrd /initrd.img    boot01:26
draikintelikey: Ok. How?01:27
intelikeyWorkingOnWise that will only display the home page you have installed.  not always the correct page for the server.01:27
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intelikeydraik just as i listed them.  ^    1.  root       2. kernel       3. initrd        4. boot     you only need to know the disk address   (hd?,?)   and the root=01:28
intelikeydraik and grub provides tab completion as well01:29
mefisto__draik: the "e" key lets you edit when you're in the grub menu, so just edit memtest entry, replace with what intelikey said01:29
mefisto__then update-grub once you've booted properly01:30
intelikeymefisto__ well what i said was for the grub prompt   but yes that will work too01:30
draik10-401:30
intelikeymefisto__ i.e.   "c"  rather than "e"01:30
sloophowdy folks -looking for some help with my brand spanking new kde4 grub file01:31
mefisto__"c" edits in the grub menu?01:31
intelikeyWorkingOnWise if you change/edit your home page  then it's not updated with apache  iirc.   that's why i mentioned that.  ^01:31
intelikeymefisto__ no.  "c"  gives you the grub command line.  "grub prompt"01:32
sloopinstalled kde4 from the live cd but didnt right to the grub menu ..now i cant boot into that partition01:32
intelikeymefisto__ from the menu ^  yes.01:32
sloopI 'e"dit my grub lines but I don't have a clue as to the uuid nonses01:33
intelikeysloop it's the hour for grub.    fire away01:33
slooplol thanks itelikey01:33
unagi_anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov01:33
intelikeysloop ok uuid is the file system idintifier.   from the running linux system  you can use  blkid   to list yours.01:33
kadamOn a scale of 1-10, what are the odds that I can dual boot kubuntu on a drive that already has Windows on it?  What if it's a RAID 0 array?01:34
unagi_kadam its preferred that you have windows on the drive first01:34
draikintelikey: mefisto__: Nope. It still went to Memtest :(01:34
intelikeydraik then you entered something incorrectly.    keep trying or boot a live CD and fix from there.01:35
mefisto__sorry draik, listen to intelikey, it should be more straightforward using the grub prompt01:35
replmanI tried it (playing video) without kde (plain xinit) - the same result (X11 crashes). I put the log to http://www.pastebin.org/1782101:35
kadamunagi_: Ahh, good... Am I in for an ordeal, you think?  Or is installing to a raid array rather straightforward?01:35
sloopAh ha! thank you intelikey01:35
draikSGD to the rescue, I guess01:35
unagi_lol replmanthat darn signal 1101:35
intelikeysloop :/01:35
unagi_replman:01:35
* draik 's day goes from bad to worse :(01:36
unagi_i dont know anything about raid kadam i just know the best thing to do is install windows first01:36
replmanunagi_: do you know what i can do?01:37
intelikeydraik actually i think everyone should manually boot their system with grub and lilo   at least one time each.   that way you are never afraid of the boot loader again.    but i will admit it is formitable when first incountered.01:37
unagi_lol no replman i just know that maya use to give me signal 11 (unknown signal) when i used the graph editor and it sucked01:37
replmanThat's very annoying. When i browse to a website which loads a video (mplayer-plugin), the complete kde crashes01:38
intelikey!kde401:38
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde401:38
draikintelikey: While this is the first time this has happened, it's the 2nd time I was locked out. The first incident added 3 other users. This time it removed GRUB :(01:38
intelikeydraik understood.    and may i say i sympothize, over "too much automatic ####!" in ubuntu.01:39
intelikeyall it takes is one cron job doing something with the boot loader or for some the gui, and it fail.   leaves a dark brown taste in your mouth about the whole os.01:41
intelikeyautomatic updates give linux a bad name.    imo01:42
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draikintelikey: What would happen if I copy a very similar install's /boot/grub/menu.lst file to this laptop which just ate it?01:43
intelikeywelcome back mefisto__, you timed it just right.    "missed my rant"   :)01:44
mefisto__rant about?01:44
intelikeydraik if the disk/partitions and kernel version are the same it will work.  if not, you'll have basicly the same mess to contend with.01:44
intelikeymefisto__ don't ask.      automatic crap breaking things.01:45
draikintelikey: They are the same. Just didn't know if there was anything in particular with could not be used.01:45
intelikeydraik shouldn't be.   but i think it would be easy enough to fix from a live CD    do you have one ?01:46
draikintelikey: Yes. Booting at this time.01:46
intelikeyk   i'll walk you through it.01:46
mefisto__intelikey: gdm login was the same 1024x768 resolution. any other suggestions?01:46
draikintelikey: Ok. I'm in.01:46
intelikeymefisto__ it's adjustable.     not sure about the gui thingy  but i edit by hand /etc/gdm/gdm.conf01:47
intelikeydraik is the root fs of the installed system mounted ?01:47
draikintelikey: Nope. I just loaded the LiveCD of 7.1001:47
intelikeyok.   open a terminal   and do   cat /proc/partitions ;mount01:48
intelikeydraik find your installed fs's root partition (assuming you use a partition)   and look at the output of the mount command to make sure it's not already mounted.   then mount it on /mnt01:49
intelikeyif you need more specific help on things just say so.01:50
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intelikeydraik still with me ?01:53
sloop-thanks intelikey fixed my grub but kde4 doesnt see my atheros card01:54
shinda_hey anyone familiar with mkvextract tools?01:54
intelikey!kde4 | sloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.01:55
ubotusloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde401:55
sloopsweet - thx01:55
intelikeynp01:55
snarksterYAH!!! i got a sexond interview with a law firm..01:56
intelikeyshinda_ if you ask more specific questions you are more likely to get a responce.    if you specify the issue you are having, including any error messages; you are even more likely to get help.01:57
snarkstersecond even01:57
draikintelikey: Sorry, got a phone call. Took a while to get connection back on my network. (Don't ask)01:57
intelikeysnarkster frauidian slip ?01:57
phoenixzMy adept manager crashed and I can't start it anymore, its saying something about database which is locked.. How can I fix this?01:57
snarksterno im happy.. I know its OT..01:58
snarkster!adept01:58
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:58
phoenixz!aptfix01:58
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:58
shinda_sorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?01:58
snarksteri took flv and converted to mpg for use on a psp01:59
snarksterUse convert it01:59
snarksterits in the repos01:59
draikintelikey: I'm using the whole HDD.01:59
draikintelikey: How do I check?01:59
intelikeydraik ok.  mount it01:59
shinda_yea, don't want to convert anything since that'll involve having to wait for the videos to transcode and that will take 12+ hours which I really don't want to do01:59
stunatraWhat's a good partitioner/formatter for Kubuntu?02:00
intelikeydraik oh sorry.     sudo fdisk -l02:00
snarksterthen what are you asking about?02:00
snarksteraccording to what you just asked:02:00
snarkstersorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?02:00
snarkstersounds like you are converting.. isnt remuxing the same as converting?02:01
draikintelikey: Ok02:01
shinda_no, remuxing is just changing the headers and containers without changing the  content02:01
snarksterah02:01
intelikeydraik that will show disks and partitions if any.    then if it's not mounted.   "use the mount command without arguments to check";  mount it on /mnt thus   sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt   < example only02:01
unagi_anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov02:01
snarksterso google remoxing mkv to mpg02:01
snarksterremuxing even02:02
snarkstermake a gif out of the jpg sequences and then convert to mov02:02
shinda_ya, most the guides are all windows specific using windows apps that do it for you, I've found one guide but was wondering if anyone had any other experience with it, to maybe save some time02:02
snarksterah.. good on you..02:02
draikintelikey: Ok02:02
unagi_stunatra: gparted02:02
snarksterI have no experience with such things other than converting it directly02:02
stunatrathanks unagi_02:03
intelikeyclue/4     google.com/linux   then search.02:03
intelikeydraik ok    sudo chroot /mnt02:03
draikintelikey: Ok02:04
intelikeydraik mount none /proc -t proc02:04
draikintelikey: Ok02:04
intelikeydraik update-grub02:04
draikintelikey: Ok02:05
intelikeydraik lets test it,     grub02:05
intelikeydraik you should have now a grub prompt02:05
intelikey?02:05
draikintelikey: Ok02:05
intelikeydraik    root (hd0)     < again assuming no partition  if you have one partition change to    root (hd0,0)02:06
intelikeyif it's not the first hd  then change acordingly02:06
sloopshhhhuuuuuuuuccckkkksss it;s quiet in kubunut-kDE4 ..like a funeral home02:07
intelikeyyou have that ?    it should return the    fs type   ?02:07
draikintelikey: Error 21: Selected disk does not exist02:07
draikintelikey: root (hd0,0)02:08
intelikeydraik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?02:08
intelikeyit was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt02:09
intelikeydraik ?02:10
intelikeyDRAIK !02:10
intelikeyhmmm he's gone.....02:11
intelikeyhope he doesn't panic in the middle of that....02:12
phoenixzj/joinn #windows02:12
phoenixzI DIDNT WRITE THAT!!02:12
intelikeyof course not.02:12
intelikey:)02:12
intelikeywb.02:12
unagi_stunatra: gparted02:13
phoenixzIm just demoing IRC to a windows user.. really...02:13
unagi_oops02:13
unagi_anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov02:13
intelikeydraik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?  it was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt02:13
snarksterunagi i guess you didnt like my suggestion02:13
phoenixzunagi_, IIRC, there is a utility in apt-get that can do that... at least images to movie.. then you can convert the movie to .mov..02:13
phoenixzunagi_, problem is that I forgot the names of those :P02:14
unagi_hrm02:14
sigma16where can i get mailserver setup help02:15
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* draik swears at the cordless phone02:17
sigma16?????????????????/02:17
draikintelikey: Sorry, got another phone call. It was actually important, too.02:17
intelikeydraik ok.  you back with me now?02:17
draikintelikey: Yes02:17
draikOk02:17
draikHow do I find out the partition?02:17
intelikeyok you still at the grub prompt ?02:17
Daisuke-Idosigma16: a long string of question marks is unlikely to make you any friends02:17
draiksda1 is Linux02:17
draiksda2 is Extended02:18
draiksda5 is swap02:18
intelikeydraik ok and are you still looking at the grub prompt ?02:18
sigma16i need help with setting up a mailserver.... i wqas following a guide on the ubuntu community site and i hit a snag02:18
draikintelikey: Yes02:18
intelikeydraik ok type in     quit02:18
draikintelikey: I'm stuck at the      root (hd0,0)        part of the session02:18
draikintelikey: Ok02:19
intelikeydraik now in the chrooted shell.   cat /boot/grub/devic*02:19
Daisuke-Idocould you possibly be a little more specific?02:19
dazzahi, i'm having problems with my mouse - it stops responding when typing on the keyboard. this is on a dell inspiron 1520 and it was working fine up until today02:19
draikintelikey: hd0   /dev/hda02:19
snarksterdid you do any updates?02:19
intelikeydraik should show one line per hdd you have02:19
dazzauh yeah, it was libprobe i think02:20
intelikeydraik you have only one ?02:20
dazzagot updated this morning02:20
draikintelikey: yes02:20
sigma16can some 1 plz help me...02:20
Daisuke-Idolike, i dunno, a link to the guide you're following, information about what step you hit a snag on, something for us to work with, because as it stands, "i'm following a guide and i hit a snag" tells us diddley-squat.02:20
sigma16if not show me were i can get help?02:20
dazzai restarted x, then restarted the whole laptop, then ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:20
intelikeydraik ok.   now lets check the device node     ls -l /dev/hda102:20
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draikintelikey: The funny thing is that its under /dev/sda , not hda02:21
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intelikeydraik that's ok.  that's scsi emulation used by the live cd02:21
draikintelikey: ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory02:21
draikintelikey: Oh, ok.02:21
intelikeydraik ok i want you to run this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 102:22
draikintelikey: ok02:23
intelikeydraik that will make a static device for the kernel to use in a pinch.02:23
KillerFlamingodoes any one know of a free version or program like VMware that i can use to virtualize Winxp02:23
Daisuke-Ido!vistualbox | KillerFlamingo02:23
intelikeydraik ok one more thing.     grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst02:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vistualbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:23
dazzaKillerFlamingo: you could try virtualbox02:23
Daisuke-Idocrud02:23
Daisuke-Ido!virtualbox | KillerFlamingo02:23
ubotuKillerFlamingo: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox02:23
dazzaKillerFlamingo: vmware itself is also free, but not open source02:23
draikintelikey: ok02:23
KillerFlamingovmware wanted $18902:24
Daisuke-Idovmware *server* is free (and i believe it has less features)02:24
intelikeydraik if that didn't show anything we have work to do.02:24
draikintelikey: kernel          /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro02:24
slyhi02:24
dazzaKillerFlamingo: not for vmware server edition02:24
dazzaKillerFlamingo: that one is free02:24
draikintelikey: But it's commented out02:24
dazzabut virtualbox-ose will work as well i think, and it's easier to install :D02:25
draikintelikey: Nevermind. It's at the bottom. It only has the memtest02:25
KillerFlamingook i'll try them both02:25
sly!channel02:25
KillerFlamingothank you02:25
intelikeydraik ok you still have a problem then.   lets try another avinew02:25
sly!find channel list02:25
intelikeydraik rm /boot/grub/menu.lst02:25
intelikeyor you can move it02:25
draikintelikey: ok02:25
sly!join02:25
sly!join channel02:25
draikintelikey: Removed02:26
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intelikeydraik     mknod /dev/hda b 3 002:26
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draikintelikey: ok02:26
intelikeydraik grub-install /dev/hda02:26
draikintelikey: I'm at the GRUB>02:27
intelikey?02:27
intelikeyshouldn't be02:27
intelikeyquit02:27
draikintelikey: ok02:27
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intelikeydid you put a space in the grub-install command or something ?02:28
intelikeyup arrow to check02:28
* draik is embarrassed02:28
intelikeythought so02:28
draikintelikey: Yeah. I removed the space and put grub-install this time02:29
intelikeyok up arrow and grep the menu.lst again02:29
draikintelikey: /dev/sda1: Not found or not a block device02:29
intelikeyoh we'll make one then.02:29
replmanHi! I fixed my video-playing-x11-crashing problem. It was a driver problem. I installed the newest nvidia-driver and everything works fine now :-)02:29
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draikintelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory02:30
intelikeydraik   mknod /dev/sda b 8 002:30
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intelikeydraik and   mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 102:30
draikintelikey: ok02:30
draikintelikey: ok02:30
intelikeynow do the grub-install /dev/sda      command again.02:31
* draik makes sure he types it in correctly this time...02:31
intelikeyi don't like having to fight with scsi emulation,      but we'll get there.02:31
draikintelikey: /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive02:31
intelikeyhda  my typo this time02:32
snarksterlater folks02:32
intelikeysnarkster02:32
draikintelikey: /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive02:32
intelikeyNDPMacBook:    rm /dev/sda1 && ln -s /dev/hda1 /dev/sda102:33
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intelikeybah. tab completion02:33
intelikeydraik            ^02:33
pockethow do i find a list of channels?02:33
intelikeypocket /list  but i advise you to filter it.   it's huge02:33
pocketintelikey thank you02:34
draikintelikey: Ok02:34
pocketintelikey how do i filter it?02:34
intelikeypocket most clients have ways  look in it's menu02:34
pocketintelikey thanks02:34
intelikeydraik grub-install /dev/hda02:35
intelikeyfinish without error ?02:35
draiksomewhat...02:35
intelikeyok   grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst02:35
draikSearching for GRUB installation directory... found: /boot/grub02:35
draikThe file /boot/grub/state1 not read correctly02:36
intelikeyyes that's not an error.02:36
draikok02:36
intelikeyoh my.02:36
intelikeystage1 not read correctly could be a problem.02:36
draikintelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory02:36
intelikeyok.02:37
intelikeydraik hmmm i'm thinking.02:37
Dr_willissounds like some files in /boot got moved/deleted02:37
intelikeydraik two ways to aproach that.   rm /boot/grub -r   and try again   or   enter the grub shell and install from there.02:38
draikThe grub shell seems interesting02:38
intelikeygrub02:38
draikok02:38
intelikeyroot (hd0,0)02:38
KillerFlamingoso i have a stupid question about virtual box02:38
draikintelikey: Ok02:39
intelikeyinstall (hd0)02:39
KillerFlamingodo i install generic or server02:39
intelikeyor is it setup (hd0)   ???02:39
intelikeyheh i forgot.02:39
draikI think it's setup02:39
draikEither way, I get an error02:39
intelikeywhat is it02:39
draikError 22: No such partition02:39
intelikeysetup (hd0,0)02:40
draikError 22: No such partition02:41
intelikeyDr_willis what do you make of that ?02:41
* intelikey is thinking by now, if that was my box i would already have installed lilo and forgoten it.....02:42
Dr_willisSounds like hes really broken somthing. :)02:43
Dr_willisor /boot is on its own partition, and not mounted02:43
* draik would rather work on the Linux box than return to windows02:43
intelikeyDr_willis no we have been playing in /boot02:43
intelikeydraik dito02:44
Dr_willishe seems to be missing a  : /boot/grub/menu.lst02:44
intelikeyDr_willis that was the reason for being here.02:44
draikI only use windows when forced. That being work and other people's computer.02:45
intelikeyit had only one entry  "memtest"   and update-grub didn't add anything02:45
Dr_willisMakes ya wonder how it vanished. and what other things it took. :) did he have a  /boot/grub/stage1 and stage2 ?02:45
smerilhow do i close a program in the bakround that is stoping me from using any other packet manager02:45
sub[t]rnlwhats: find /boot/grub/stage1 tell ya?02:45
intelikeywe rm'd the broken menu.lst02:45
sub[t]rnlor is that step even necessary02:45
Dr_willisls -l /boot/grub/menu* to see if the files even exist, and if they exist. they have actual data in them.02:46
intelikeydraik see sub[t]rnl ^02:46
Dr_willis-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    512 2008-01-17 13:15 stage102:46
Dr_willis-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100948 2008-01-17 13:15 stage202:46
smeril?02:46
intelikeyDr_willis it doesn't now.  but it did and was useless02:46
intelikeysmeril killall <name>02:46
Dr_willissmeril,  close the apps with the kill command, or  by closign their interface. depends on what you got running -02:46
intelikeysmeril and if by background you mean you ^Z 'd it,  then fg it02:47
draikfind /boot/grub/strage1 tells me..        (hd0,0)02:47
* Dr_willis is not sure what find is doing :) heh heh..02:48
sub[t]rnltelling him where to install grub02:48
sub[t]rnl:P02:48
intelikeyDr_willis grub's find02:48
Dr_willisOk :) that makes more sence02:48
draikDr_willis: Nope. Nothing. I only have menu.lst~02:48
intelikeydraik ok.    grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst~  and see if it's usable02:49
intelikeythe ~ means an editor probably made that.02:49
Dr_willisYep. Looks like a backed up menu.lst to me.02:50
draikNope02:50
draikIt's just the memtest02:50
intelikeyhmmm k02:50
intelikeythen it's worthless02:50
Dr_willishe does have the proper kernel files? Im trying to figure out wht would of removed all the kernel entries in menu.lst02:50
intelikeydraik ls /lib/modules/ /boot/vmlin*02:51
Rominahi02:52
sub[t]rnltheres always the super grub disk, as a last resort02:52
RominaI am searching for a command,  equal to "emerge world"02:52
sub[t]rnlapt-get02:52
Rominathere is Kubuntu 7.04 running on this PC,  and I would like to upgrade to 7.1002:53
draikintelikey: Ok. What do you need/02:53
draik?02:53
draikI have the 2.6.22-14 generic02:53
Rominawithout downloading an ISO Image,  burning a bootable CD,   deleting the old system and setting up the new system02:53
Rominais there any way?02:53
intelikeyonly to make sure you see a dir in modules/ and a kernel in /boot02:53
sub[t]rnlromina: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:54
intelikeydraik just to make sure that the kernel was still there02:54
draikok02:54
Rominasub[t]rnl, sounds good .... is it risky?02:54
Rominasub[t]rnl,  most packages are from the official repositories,  some aren't02:55
sub[t]rnlRomina➜ I've never ran into a problem02:55
Rominasub[t]rnl, example:  d3lphin  is dolphin for kubuntu 7.0402:55
Rominaits a packport02:55
Rominafrostwire is a limewire ... "fork" ...02:55
intelikeydraik lets run the   update-grub    again02:55
Rominait has been installed as a deb02:55
Rominasub[t]rnl, will these programs cause problems?02:55
sub[t]rnlnope02:56
intelikeydraik see if it makes a new menu.lst02:56
Rominahow comes?02:56
intelikeyit is supposed to02:56
draikintelikey: It asked. I said YES02:56
draikSeems I only have memtest02:56
Rominahow will dependencies resolved if they are not resolvable?02:56
sub[t]rnlRomina➜ run it and see02:56
Rominaokay02:56
draikintelikey: Yup. Only memtest02:57
intelikeywow.... draik i have never seen it act this way.     i'm kinda at a loss as to what to try now.02:57
draikintelikey: What if I do a copy/paste of my other laptop's menu.lst? Would that work?02:57
intelikeydraik   dpkg -l | grep linux-image02:57
Rominasub[t]rnl, thank you very much for the information you gave me02:57
sub[t]rnlno problemo02:58
draikI have the 2.6.22-14-generic, linux-image-generic and a few past versions02:58
shinda_anyone familiar with converting ac3 audio files to aac?02:58
StrangeworkWhen should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?02:58
intelikeydraik yeah you can do that.   but update-grub will hose it too when it is ran, if we don't find out what is causing this02:59
intelikeydraik past versions ?   with   ii  in the first coloum ?02:59
draikintelikey: Yes02:59
intelikeyand you have these kernels in /boot as well ?02:59
draikintelikey: I figure that the menu.lst file is a crapshoot. Copy/paste from other laptop should fix it, right?03:00
draikintelikey: Yes. They are in /boot as well03:00
intelikeytry it.   if not we'll try something different03:00
draikOnit03:01
draikOn it03:01
intelikeysub[t]rnl did you notice that he has several kernels installed and  update-grub  made a new menu.lst with only memtest listed in it ?03:01
sub[t]rnlcookies waiting if you get it resolved intelikey, just keep that in mind03:01
sub[t]rnl:>03:01
draikintelikey: In regards to the mounting and such of the usb drive, do I want to mount as user?03:02
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ wasn't following too closely, but that is strange as heck03:02
intelikeysomething is seriously hosed.   like maybe  perl is missing or something03:02
Rominasub[t]rnl, there are 2 more questions comming into my head concerning the same problem and since you've been the one how answered my question before,  I would like to direct them straight to you03:03
intelikeydraik normally as root.03:03
StrangeworkWhen should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?03:03
draikintelikey: Hmmm.. ok03:03
KillerFlamingoSo i tried the virtualbox with many error durring the install so now i will try to the VMware but it looks as though i will need to compile it my self unless some out there knows of another way?03:03
Rominasub[t]rnl, please tell me,  if I can see in advance how much traffic it will cause to do the dist-upgrade,   because my internet package plan allows me only to download 3 gigs per month03:03
intelikeydraik it's a linux fs so the permissions are not affected by who mounts03:03
intelikeyi.e. the permissions bit is on each inode03:04
Rominasub[t]rnl, next question: I just found out that there is a KubuntuDistUpgrade      Tool03:04
Rominacan it be recommended?03:04
FaiDillinGerhow can i enable numlock at login time please ? when xorg popsup03:04
sub[t]rnlRomina➜ theres several ways to get yourself upgraded.  kubuntudistupgrade is most likely an apt front end anyway03:05
sub[t]rnlupgrade | Romina03:05
sub[t]rnldern03:05
sub[t]rnl!upgrade | Romina03:05
intelikeytotally opposed to M$ fs's which have no permissions bit and thus the mount command assigns an fs wide permission03:05
ubotuRomina: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:05
RominaThank you sub[t]rnl !03:05
draikintelikey: Ok. I copied menu.lst to /mnt/boot/grub/03:06
draikumount /mnt?03:06
intelikeyno03:06
intelikeyfirst umount /proc03:06
intelikeythen exit the chroot shell03:06
intelikeythen umount /mnt03:06
draikHow do I exit the chroot shell?03:06
intelikeyexit03:07
draikGot it. Thanks03:07
draikDone03:07
draikReboot?03:07
intelikeyyep03:07
draikOk. Here goes03:07
* intelikey runs for cover.03:08
intelikey:)03:08
sub[t]rnllol03:08
intelikeyLOOK OUT SHE'S GONA BLOW !!!!!03:08
* sub[t]rnl face plants03:08
draikWHOA03:09
draikIt's flashing all over the place03:09
draikOk03:09
draikNo more flashing03:09
* draik is happy he's not epileptic03:09
Rominasub[t]rnl, is the "apt-get upgrade"  stuff really necessary?   Because it will download 342 Mb of packages03:09
intelikeydraik remember the stage1 error?   that may have been it.03:10
kadam!raid03:10
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:10
draikShould I have copied it as well?03:10
draikintelikey: I only copy/pasted menu.lst03:10
intelikeydraik we'll see03:10
intelikeyhow is it doing ?03:10
draikI have a brown/tan screen03:10
draikIt's not doing anything03:11
intelikeythen probably yes.03:11
draikAll I need from the laptop is the IM log03:11
draikHow can I get the log from kopete?03:11
sub[t]rnlRomina➜ its recommended that your system be up to date before upgrading via repositories03:11
* intelikey wonders if that's an "i'm going to reload this thing" question03:12
Rominasub[t]rnl, ok then I will do so03:12
Rominathank you very much once more03:12
draikintelikey: Yeah. Seems that's going to be the only way.03:12
sub[t]rnl*cough* super grub disk *cough*03:12
draikWait03:12
draikHaha.03:12
draiksub[t]rnl: Yup03:12
kadamIs it possible/simple to install Linux on a separate hard drive than Windows?03:13
intelikeydraik boot the live CD and copy the stage1* files as well      and while you are there copy your log out   then if it doesn't boot, you can reload without having to go back in.03:13
draik!enter | draik03:13
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ you bet03:13
draikkadam: Yes.03:13
intelikeykadam linux doesn't really care where it lives, as long as it's not in ntfs space03:14
intelikeywell or vfat03:14
kadamsub[t]rnl: draik: Would it be advisable to remove my windows drive before installation?  Is there anything I should know to install the bootloader?  Will it ask me which drive I want it installed on?03:15
sub[t]rnland as we just learned, as long as grub can find the partition to boot from03:15
sub[t]rnl:>03:15
kadamahh, heheh, nice03:15
draikkadam: Leave it in there. It's better that way03:15
kadamdraik: If my Windows drive is a raid0 array, will I have issues with GRUB?03:16
intelikeysub[t]rnl "partition" being a key word for grub.  i don't use them   and lilo does just fine at booting without a partition03:16
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ no need to remove your windows drive before installing.  You can select the drive you want to install on from the bootable cd03:16
draikCorss your fingers... here we go03:16
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ agreed03:16
draikintelikey: I had linux setup on a separate HDD at one point. Not an issue with GRUB.03:17
intelikeydraik i said nothing about that.   i said i don't have a partition03:17
kadamOrrr, what if I set my Linux drive as the first boot device, and install GRUB to IT?03:18
kadamhehe, sorry, I'm just scared ! :O03:18
draikInstall Linux. Use GrUB. GrUB will know what to do.03:18
draikintelikey: Sorry. Read it wrong03:18
intelikeykadam it wont hurt a thing to do it that way.  and if you feel safer to unplug the other drive/s first, do that.03:18
* draik is going to research Lasik eye surgery after the laptop boots up.03:19
kadamVery well 8)  so, just to insure, GrUB can handle RAID0?03:19
* kadam has wanted eye surgery since radial keratotomy03:19
intelikeyit can when setup propperly.03:20
draikintelikey: sub[t]rnl: I'm in INITRAMFS03:20
intelikeythen the root=/device is wrong03:20
sub[t]rnlyou leave me out of this, your in capable hands03:20
sub[t]rnl:>03:20
morphinehowdy folks03:21
intelikeydraik reboot.  and at the menu  edit the line and change the  root=/dev/hda1   <<< should be that03:21
intelikeyctrl+alt+del  should reboot you just fine.03:21
draikYup03:21
* kadam starts on HD installation03:22
intelikeywe could have continued from the initramfs  but i don't much like to03:22
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draikintelikey: I have root=UUID=(long string of characters)03:23
draikChange it?03:23
intelikeychange it to   root=/dev/hda103:23
draikOk03:24
draikBooting from it03:24
woddf2Hello03:24
intelikeyenter to accept   b to boot03:24
draikDid that03:24
woddf2http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php Is this what I should read if I want to upgrade to KDE 4?03:24
draikacpi-force is required to enable ACPI03:24
draikLoading, please wait...03:24
intelikeydraik now if the initramfs has a device node .....03:25
draikSorry, that was to be acpi=force03:25
maybeway36woddf2: yeah03:25
woddf2Thanks03:25
woddf2Goodbye03:25
maybeway36i'm on debian lenny. it's not there yet03:25
intelikeydraik is it booting ?   or waiting on an fs ?03:26
draikIt's just sitting there03:27
draikLoading, please wait...03:27
draikOk03:27
draikBack to INITRAMFS03:27
intelikeyok when it times out you'll have to do this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 103:27
draikintelikey: ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.03:27
intelikeyfrom mknod command ?03:28
intelikeydraik   mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 103:28
draikNope. That's once it's done "loading"03:28
draikintelikey: Done03:28
intelikeymount /dev/hda1 /root03:28
marcosgood evening all03:28
draikintelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address03:29
intelikeydraik modprobe ide-disk03:29
draikok03:30
intelikeydraik mount /dev/hda1 /root03:30
draikintelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address03:30
intelikeysec.03:30
X9nLinuxXI did a reinstall of Dapper on an old iMac yesterday.  After installation, went into system settings -> Login Manager -> Admin mode | ... to make some modifications and it put up the password screen as expected... entered password and it popped up a window saying 'Conversation with su failed'...03:30
X9nLinuxXQ1: What does this mean?  Q2: How do I fix it?03:30
intelikeyok draik modprobe ide-generic03:31
draikintelikey: Done03:31
intelikeydraik modprobe ext303:31
intelikeythen mount again03:31
draikintelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address03:31
intelikeyinteresting.    ls -l /dev/hda103:32
ere4sineed mkdir /root/hda1 (or another name)03:32
intelikeyno03:32
intelikeyere4si /root is correct03:32
draikintelikey: brw-r--r--    1 0        0       3,    1 /dev/hda103:33
intelikeydraik just to make sure, type     exit03:33
intelikeydraik if it boots your in. if not it loops back to the prompt03:33
draikOk. I typed exit and it looped to the prompt03:33
intelikeyok03:33
intelikeylet me study the modules list a minute03:34
draikOk03:34
intelikeydraik modprobe generic03:34
intelikeyand exit03:34
draikFATAL: Module generic not found03:35
draikstill exit?03:35
intelikeyno03:35
woddf2How do I upgrade to KDE 4 without keeping KDE 3?03:35
intelikeydraik lets see if you have an fs listed by uid in /dev  ls /dev03:36
draikI hve a few things in there03:36
intelikey!kde4 | woddf203:36
ubotuwoddf2: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:36
draikls /dev provided quite a list03:36
intelikeydraik anything about uid or uuid ?03:36
woddf2Thanks03:37
draikintelikey: Many TTY**, but after that there isn't any UID or UUID03:37
intelikeytry  ls /dev/u*03:38
intelikeyor   ls /dev/U*03:38
draikintelikey: usb1 and urandom03:38
intelikeyok.  let me think some more.03:38
draikintelikey: Nothing for U*03:38
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ can you run any commands via sudo?03:39
X9nLinuxXWould I need to do a complete reinstall because of a 'Conversation with su failed' message?03:40
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ most likely no, ill walk try to walk you through it03:40
intelikeydraik i'm pretty sure you are only a module away from booting,  but i don't know which module.   if i knew your hardware i might be able to find it.  but this remote trubble shooting with "stone knoves and bear skins" is kinda awkward...03:40
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ can you execute any commands with sudo?03:40
intelikeyX9nLinuxX sudo echo boo     <<<< that will test your sudoers rights03:41
draikintelikey: Haha. Nice way to put it03:41
draikintelikey: I thank you for your time and effort03:42
draikYou've been great03:42
intelikeyX9nLinuxX if it says boo then you are good to go,  if it doesn't say boo  then you cainT root03:42
X9nLinuxXeverything works fine except for having no access to things that want password / admin authentication03:42
X9nLinuxXPassword authentication on start up is fine...03:42
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ right, try running the command intelikely gave you03:42
sub[t]rnltrying to see if its just a problem with kdesu03:43
sub[t]rnl(he said dapper right?)03:43
sub[t]rnlyeah03:43
X9nLinuxXyes dapper... starting up konsole now03:43
sub[t]rnlhopefully sudo works, saves a reboot into recovery mode03:44
Agent_bobdraik seeing that my modem just reset.   (which means i have not made rounds in time to catch it.)  i think i better go for a few.03:44
X9nLinuxXit did say boo...03:44
sub[t]rnlk, so its just kdesu03:44
draikAgent_bob: ...?03:44
Agent_bobdraik yeah it's me.    :)03:45
Agent_bob< intelikey03:45
draikAgent_bob: 10-4.03:45
draikAgent_bob: If I load up the Live CD, hoe do I get what I need?03:45
X9nLinuxXso what does this mean? (Sorry if I'm missing something here)03:45
draikCan I copy/paste into the mounted partition?03:45
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ sudo visudo03:46
Agent_bobdraik sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt    and brouse /mnt/home03:46
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ you'll see a line like: root ALL=(ALL) ALL03:46
Agent_bobdraik absolutely   if you have permission.    i.e.  kdesudo konqueror03:46
draikAgent_bob: I should. It's loading right now03:47
X9nLinuxXok... 'timestamp too far in the future'03:47
X9nLinuxXdidn't get any line about root03:47
Agent_bobback in a bit.      and draik your live CD user is "ubuntu" which is probably not the installed user name... so perms will very03:47
Agent_bobvary03:47
sub[t]rnlso it just spit out that error? didn't access the sudoers file?03:47
X9nLinuxXum.... wait a minute...03:48
woddf2KDE 4 crashes when I try to use it!03:48
X9nLinuxXright... but...03:48
woddf2X crashes, and it returns me to KDM!03:48
woddf2...well?03:49
X9nLinuxXclock time shows that the time is 17:48... that's five hours ago...03:49
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ hrm, try clearing the timestamps, sudo -k03:49
X9nLinuxX(is this an issue with clock being mucked up?03:49
woddf2X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!03:49
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ most likely.  I believe linux has security measures against date time adjusted exploits to get around security03:50
X9nLinuxXagain timestamp too far in the future03:50
sub[t]rnltry setting the clock back03:50
sub[t]rnlway back, then try clearing it03:50
X9nLinuxXThe install just finished last night... its essentially 'out of the box' without my fiddlings03:50
X9nLinuxXthe time here is USA EST... so the actual time should read 22:5103:51
woddf2X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!03:52
X9nLinuxXaaaawwwww... now it won't even show the clock adjustment info03:52
Daisuke-Idowoddf2: #kubuntu-kde403:53
woddf2No-one answered!03:53
Daisuke-IdoSo!03:53
Daisuke-IdoNot everything has to be an exclamation!03:53
_luke_woddf2: yeah I think I have the same issue03:53
* Daisuke-Ido grumbles03:53
sub[t]rnllol03:53
Daisuke-Idosorry, i'll go back to my beer now :D03:53
* sub[t]rnl slides Daisuke-Ido another03:54
Daisuke-Idowoohoo!03:54
shinda__hey guys anyone know where I can find ac52dec I've search google and the repos but can't find it,03:54
Daisuke-Ido!ac52dec03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ac52dec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:54
Daisuke-Idoare you sure that's the name?03:54
Daisuke-Idobecause if there's *nothing* on google...  you've probably got it spelled wrong03:55
shinda__well there are articles on how to use it on google, and even found it mentioned in an old ubuntus repositary but nothing more then that03:55
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ get it working?03:56
X9nLinuxXno...03:56
X9nLinuxXit won't even show the clock info now ...admin login key is grayed out too03:56
sub[t]rnltry sudo -v from konsole03:56
Daisuke-Idoshinda__: just out of curiosity, what is it?03:57
X9nLinuxXits says I'm at desktop now... but that's it03:57
Daisuke-Idoit's possible it's been deprecated and replaced by a new piece of software03:57
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ no errors when running the command?03:58
X9nLinuxXno03:58
shinda__ac3 decoder, to dump ac3 files to wavs it looks like (it was mentioned in a tutorial) but I think I'm going try ffmpeg03:58
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ now try sudo -k03:58
Daisuke-Idoffmpeg would be your best bet03:58
X9nLinuxXtime stame too far in future again03:58
sub[t]rnlX9nLinuxX➜ have you rebooted since the errors?  I don't really like to suggest it, but I'm sure that will clear up the problem03:59
X9nLinuxXno... but will do that now04:00
X9nLinuxXit does allow login on startup ok... but then after that... no joy about admin access anywhere04:01
X9nLinuxX(that was earlier today)04:01
sub[t]rnlyeah04:02
sub[t]rnlthe timestamps are stored in your /var/run/sudo/ as far as I know.04:02
sub[t]rnlrebooting should straighten it out04:02
X9nLinuxXis this perhaps related to the time being wrong so its not happy to let an 'alien' login to the computer because of the time screwup?04:02
sub[t]rnlyeah, its directly related04:03
sub[t]rnl:>04:03
fantom210is there a channel to talk about fedora?04:03
sub[t]rnl#fedora04:03
X9nLinuxXmachine is slower than hobbes, but at least it gives me a chance to play linux unmolested by things like 'productivity' and 'work' until confidence in the system settles in more04:04
fantom210thanks04:04
kadamWhat's the best FS to use if I want to read and write from linux and Windows?  Is there something that can handle, say, 90GB partitions?04:05
X9nLinuxXthis channel & the brains here are the 'make or break' that made me choose Kubuntu over other choices.  Everybody is great here pretty regular04:05
sub[t]rnlyeah, there are some great people here.04:06
X9nLinuxXa message popped up on startup 'run as root kde'  ... 'SEEMED' to take authentication happily04:07
X9nLinuxXthen clock shows up... tried login... it 'seems' like maybe its happy to let me in now04:08
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sub[t]rnlkadam➜ ext3 file system will do nicely.  It can be read in windows with a system driver installed04:08
X9nLinuxXit looks like the automatic time set installed a time 5 hours off... as if GMT is here and actual gmt is 5 hours behind04:09
X9nLinuxXwonder what would happen if I changed it to GMT as my time zone04:10
kadamsub[t]rnl: Alright, that sounds fine.  Is that a difficult driver to find/install?04:10
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ nope, ill grab you a link04:10
fantom210can i play windows games on KUBUNTU?04:11
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html04:11
sub[t]rnl!wine > fantom21004:11
fantom210what?04:12
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chris062689Hola.04:12
sub[t]rnl!wine | fantom21004:12
ubotufantom210: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.04:12
fantom210thanks again!04:13
kadamsub[t]rnl: Nice, thanks 8)  Do you know how I might be able to format the drive in Windows?  Or would I be best off using the liveCD for formatting to ext3?04:14
sub[t]rnlI would use the liveCD for partitioning04:14
chris062689How come i'm getting an error?04:14
chris062689chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ dir04:14
chris062689bios  cdimages  pSX04:14
chris062689chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ ./pSX04:14
chris062689bash: ./pSX: No such file or directory04:14
kadamsub[t]rnl: Alright.  Now, here's something I've always wondered... How do I know which drive is which?04:15
chris062689Why can't I launch pSX?04:15
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ you can look at sudo fdisk -l from the liveCD04:15
fantom210is that mean i can do everything on kubuntu that i did on windows?04:15
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ it will show your drives, partitions, and filesystems on each04:15
sub[t]rnlfantom210➜ negative, you can probably find alternate programs for the windows counterparts though, that are native to linux.04:16
sub[t]rnlfantom210➜ but yes, a lot of windows programs can be run via wine04:16
sub[t]rnlbbiab04:16
kadamsub[t]rnl: Very nice, you've been most helpful, thank you 8)04:17
chris062689o_o04:18
chris062689Why did i Just get spammed with a million people joining?04:18
effie_jayxchris062689,  it's called netsplit04:18
effie_jayx@netsplit04:19
chris062689!netsplit04:23
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit04:23
Daisuke-Idoand that was nowhere near a million.  i've told you a million times not to exaggerate!04:24
Sakkath_i checked integrity of my install cd, but kdm just won't start. i tried getting i386 just becasue i thought maybe it was the amd64 that was th eproblem. i even tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't help.04:24
Sakkath_Xorg.0.log says 'No devices detected' - 'no screens found'04:24
ScuniziSakkath_: have you done any updates since installing?04:25
kadamsub[t]rnl: Are you back?04:25
Sakkath_Scunizi: i answered in other chan, but i'd prefer if you responded-back here04:25
Scunizik04:25
chris062689:\04:26
Sakkath_gpm isn't a pkg?04:26
ScuniziSakkath_: ok.. do a sudo apt-get update04:26
Sakkath_yeah i was just considering that.04:26
ScuniziSakkath_: then do a sudo apt-get upgrade04:26
Daisuke-Idoum04:26
ScuniziSakkath_: tehn do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:26
Sakkath_Scunizi: god, why must the install cd be broke?04:27
Daisuke-IdoSakkath_: perhaps you're looking for gdm?04:27
ScuniziSakkath_: broke?04:27
ScuniziDaisuke-Ido: he can't seem to get kdm started.. he's on kubuntu04:27
Sakkath_Daisuke-Ido: no--"#kubuntu"04:27
ScuniziDaisuke-Ido: he's also got an nvidia 8800 (newer)04:28
Sakkath_Daisuke-Ido: it's not that i can't find the program, xorg won't start04:28
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ScuniziDaisuke-Ido: Sakkath_ 's install is also fresh as in clean.04:30
Sakkath_meaning i never installed, this is the install cd04:30
kadamI'd like to format my secondary drive.  I'm in the liveCD right now.  Does anyone know what I have to do?04:31
ScuniziSakkath_: ah.. you never told me that.. you're running off the live cd?04:31
Sakkath_Scunizi: i clearly said that04:31
Sakkath_if only i had gpm to prove it04:31
ScuniziSakkath_: must have missed that or forgot it...04:31
Sakkath_it's ok, i might just go w/debian ;x04:31
Sakkath_I was just being lazy04:32
Sakkath_and i really don't wanna wait for shit to emerge on gentoo (:04:32
ScuniziSakkath_: you could try changing the driver from nv to vesa and see if that does anything.04:32
Sakkath_ok04:32
ScuniziSakkath_: when starting the desktop you could also try "startx"04:32
Sakkath_Scunizi: yes, i have. also--should i enable the fb thing04:33
Sakkath_'Use kernel fb device iface?'04:33
Scunizifb thing?04:33
ScuniziSakkath_: I've no idea what that is.04:33
Sakkath_(dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)04:33
kadamI want to install Kubuntu 7.10 but don't want KDE3; just KDE4.  Is there a new CD out for that?04:33
Sakkath_kadam: i'd advise against that04:34
organixagrees with Sakkath_04:34
Sakkath_'Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver."04:34
Sakkath_kadam: kde4 is shit and nowhere near being ready to be released--give it some time04:35
Sakkath_buggy (:04:35
Sakkath_'In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one does and the other does not. Enabling this option is the safe bet, but feel free to turn it off if it appears to casue problems.'04:35
ScuniziSakkath_: you've got nothing to loose04:36
Sakkath_Scunizi: k04:36
kadamSakkath_: Thanks but I've been running it on my laptop for the last three weeks and I love it.  Plus there's a huge update coming out next week, from what I hear.  Do you know if there's a KDE4 CD?04:36
Sakkath_kadam: no i do not know about it, but i still think you'll regret it if you try it.04:36
draikWhere do I find the history logs from Kopete?04:37
kadamSakkath_: I exclusively use KDE4 with no problems for my needs.  I'd just like to do the same on my desktop 8)  THanks tho 8)04:37
Rominasub[t]rnl ?04:37
Scunizikadam: www.kubuntu.org.. follow the links04:37
Rominasub[t]rnl, please highlight me if you are here04:38
kadamAhhh, will I need Hardy to go straight to KDE4?  In that case, yes, too buggy, hehe... I'll stick with the KDE upgrade method and 7.10...04:38
kadamScunizi: thanks 8)04:38
Scunizikadam np04:39
Rominaanyone here with experiences with a "dist-upgrade" ?04:39
RominaI have done "aptitude upgrade" which just finished  (342 MB new programs :)04:40
Rominanow I want to do  "apt-get dist-upgrade"04:40
Scunizigo for it04:40
Rominathere are just 2 things I worry about:04:40
Scuniziit won't upgrade to the next version of ubuntu/kubuntu04:40
Romina1) do I need to alter  /etc/apt/sources.list   and fill in the  Gutsy (7.10)  sources instead of the 7.04  sources?04:41
ScuniziRomina: you're upgrading from 7.04.. ?  don't take my advice I borked my upgrade.04:41
sherl0kwasn't the syntax changed to sudo do-upgrade in 7.04?04:41
sherl0kinstead of a dist-upgrade04:41
Rominasherl0k, no clue yet04:42
sherl0ki'm pretty sure that will upgrade you04:42
RominaScunizi, so you think I should NOT upgrade?04:42
sherl0kand your sources.list won't change04:42
Sakkath_Scunizi: well.. apparently it was the nv driver. i guess i *could* do it w/the 'safe' options and then do the real nvidia driver later.04:42
sherl0krather..04:42
sherl0kyou don't need to change them04:42
ScuniziSakkath_: so vesa is working?04:42
Rominado I need to chance my  /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?04:42
sherl0kthe upgrade process does it all for you, at least for the main ubuntu repositories04:42
Sakkath_Scunizi: yes, w/startx at least04:42
Rominaif yes - before of after the dist upgrade?04:42
ere4si!upgrade04:42
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:42
ScuniziSakkath_: high 5 to you..!  finally..04:42
sherl0kthat works too :)04:42
sherl0kthanks ere4si04:43
ere4sik04:43
ScuniziSakkath_: so are you going to do an actual install?04:43
Sakkath_Scunizi: maybe.04:43
Sakkath_Scunizi: :P04:43
ScuniziSakkath_: after all that ..? what's holding you back?04:44
Sakkath_Scunizi: i WAS gonna, but i donno, i think i might try out debian XD. at least this help will help me elsewhere04:44
sherl0khey anyone by chance know much about mysql server confs?04:44
Sakkath_Scunizi: i'll install it for now at least since i already have it downloaded & burned. one day i'l lput debian, just lazy for now.04:44
Sakkath_sherl0k: man does (:04:44
ScuniziSakkath_: I tried debian. nice .. stable.. but syntax is a little different using apt04:44
sherl0khahaha04:44
sherl0kSakkath_, yeah man doesn't help me much in this situation04:44
Sakkath_sherl0k: don't ask to ask--just ask your question.04:45
Sakkath_Don't be so ambiguous (:04:45
sherl0klol04:45
ScuniziSakkath_: you could always install kubuntu and then vmware then debian in a vm04:45
sherl0kthe debian remark reminded me of my problem i'm having04:45
Sakkath_do you really want/think someone is gonna sit here and say 'yes i'm familiar with mysql server confs' (:04:45
sherl0kgot an ubuntu box and a debian box, both have mysql server04:45
Sakkath_'cause i could be, but i donno how extensive of a problem you have04:45
sherl0kthe debian box, when running mysql, has multiple processes for it04:45
Sakkath_so i abstain04:45
sherl0kand the ubuntu box only has one04:45
Rominaere4si, I looked at this page ...04:46
Scunizisherl0k: you could try #ubuntu-server04:46
Sakkath_Scunizi: i could, if i had infinite disk space. if i were to do that i'd just put both on a vm on my windows and screw the dual-boot lol04:46
sherl0ki tried there :(04:46
Sakkath_or #mysql (:04:46
Rominaere4si, but it tells me how to do it graphically04:46
Rominaere4si, I wanted to stick to the shell04:46
sherl0khaha yeah i forgot about that04:46
X9nLinuxXsub[t]rnl: After the restart and then fixing the clock the messages have not stopped.  It looked like it was going to behave, but now its back to not letting me login again "Conversation with su failed" errors again04:46
X9nLinuxXit DID allow me to login to the admin mode for the clock... but doesn't do so (in 'login' settings)04:46
Sakkath_looks like i can't just do fakeraid from here. it doesn't even see the hdd as being used at all. when windows is clearly using it04:50
X9nLinuxXit doesn't allow access to Adept, Users n Groups, system servives, disks, or display04:53
BluesKajSakkath_, dmesg | grep hd  ?04:53
Sakkath_BluesKaj: looks like lot of errors, will upload a log--hold on04:57
Sakkath_BluesKaj: no gpm, have to type out link-- http://rafb.net/p/ZfjEup14.html04:59
BluesKajSakkath_, you have DMA disabled ...sorry I don't know the command in Linux05:03
BluesKaj!DMA05:03
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA05:03
kadamsub[t]rnl: If you're here, thanks for that ext3 fs reader for WinXP!  Seems to be working great 8)05:03
Sakkath_BluesKaj: that's bizare05:04
sub[t]rnlkadam➜ excellent :>05:04
SakkathBluesKaj: :S05:04
Sakkath!DMA05:06
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA05:06
SakkathI obviously can't install dmraid because i'm on the livecd. seems you need to do the raid after, wtf?05:07
Sakkathoh wow, tha twas easy--hdparm05:07
BluesKajSakkath, that happens sometimes with 2 HDD setups05:07
kadamwait, what?  I'm just now setting up a 2hd setup...05:07
SakkathBluesKaj:  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <- this is sata, when i do 'hdparm /dev/sda' it shoesn't even show using_dma as an option05:08
BluesKajsorry , bedtime here my sata & raid knowledge is  005:09
kadamit's not /dev/sds?05:10
Sakkathuhm.... this fakeraid guide says to go to 'Start -> Settings -> ADministration' this is 7.04 (the guide) and the latest is not 7.04, right?05:10
Sakkathkadam: well it would be /dev/sda and /dev/sdb05:10
kadamSakkath: Latest stable is 7.1005:10
kadamSakkath: Ahh, you're right 8)05:10
Sakkaththen yeah, tha's what i'm on. so where can i find synaptic manager on this one?05:11
Sakkathand place to add sources05:11
kadamif you're askin' me, I wish I could help, sakkath 8)05:11
surgySakkath: you want to edit your sources.list?05:11
Sakkathi'll use adept.05:12
Sakkathwhat are the default and 'universal' sources?05:12
surgySakkath:  its easiest from the command line "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:12
Sakkathdamn, i'm gonna have to resize using fdisk and ntfsrezise because of my raid05:13
Sakkathnot universal, i meant 'universe software'05:13
surgySakkath:  did you try the command i offered?05:13
Sakkathsurgy: it doesn't necessarily matter since i could have done it from adept05:14
surgySakkath: ok well was just trying to help, and terminal is much faster05:14
Sakkathoh i see05:14
Sakkaththey are commented out?05:14
Sakkathah.05:14
surgyyeah by defualt05:14
Sakkathit did help05:14
Sakkath(:05:14
Sakkathsurgy: thanks.05:14
surgysee :)05:14
surgySakkath: np05:14
Sakkathsurgy: i don't need the 'deb-src' one, right?05:15
surgyumm i just uncomment all of em05:15
Sakkathok.05:15
dick-richardsonI have an Officejet 5610 connected to my Gutsy machine via usb. How do I print to it from my wife's Mac (OS X Tiger)05:15
Sakkathsurgy: then apt-get update, right?05:15
surgySakkath:  yeah but use sudo "sudo apt-get update"05:16
surgyor be root or whatever im sure you knew this05:16
Sakkathsurgy: or kdesu. don't worry. i may just be 'sudo su -'d you wouldn't know. i have a bunch of linux experience, just not ubuntu/debian (:05:16
Sakkathplus it'd bitch at me otherwise :P05:16
Sakkathwoot now i can get gpm, LOL it doesn't matter now cause i got xorg to work w/vesa05:17
surgySakkath: and im the opisit :) i know kubuntu but beyond that, nbothing i know nothing about other distros beyond some of there names05:17
Sakkathlol05:17
SakkathI've spent a lot of time w/Gentoo05:17
surgyehh i dowloaded the 10 million terabyte install cds or however big they are for red hat, installed it look around for five mins and formatted once05:18
surgyfedora*05:18
Sakkathsurgy: some issues trying to get dmraid & gpm (same issues) http://rafb.net/p/IsbRNF15.html05:18
SakkathI'm sure now that it's past the 'fedora core' shit, it's a lot better05:19
SakkathI herd some things about it being good, or having potential05:19
SakkathFedora 7?05:19
SakkathOpenSUSE hhas kde set up nice so that it has this cool search feature in the start menu05:19
SakkathNot saying I couldn't do it otherwise, just lazy. and i would have no clue what it's called :P05:20
Sakkathwhy the hell would it try to start cupsd??05:21
surgySakkath: check this out, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/17406905:21
surgySakkath:  maybe that helps?05:21
kalorinmaybe you want to print something?05:21
kalorin:)05:21
dick-richardsonI'd like to print something05:21
dick-richardsonfrom my wife's mac to my ubuntu machine :P05:22
Sakkathkalorin: I fail to see how apt-get install dmraid would show any intentions of printing something (:05:22
kalorinor it wants to print something for you, maybe it's like one of those internet horror movies where whatever comes out of the printer it says you have 24 hours to live?05:22
kalorintwo days ago on my workstation at work, I tried to get the USB stuff working with my ipod05:22
kalorinfor whatever reason it decided to stop (turned out I needed to reboot my ipod)05:22
kalorinso i went to install the userspace usb manager05:23
kalorinit removed the kernel05:23
kalorinoh boy let me tell you, that was FUN FUN FUN!05:23
Sakkathsurgy: well it didn't seem that bug was resolved, anyways i just removed cupsys, i don't need it (:05:23
surgySakkath:  so whats the goal here?05:24
surgySakkath: what are you trying to accomplish?05:24
kalorinby the time it was over, I could have reinstalled, teh results would have been similar cause I put the kernel back, then went to remove that package and something else, the next thing I know, kde-core was gone along with openoffice and jsut about everything else05:24
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kalorinit was a fun day or so putting that back together, very informations05:24
kalorininformational05:24
Sakkathsurgy: install kubuntu successfully on 'fakeRAID' with a windows dual-boot (which is already installed)05:24
kalorinheh windows05:24
kalorinI stopped using that about a year ago now05:24
surgySakkath: i dont know anything about fakeraid, but i know a half dozen ways to get a dual boot system up05:24
kalorinfor literally anything05:25
Sakkathkalorin: I game. That's it.05:25
SakkathSimple answer (:05:25
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surgykubuntu can do anything windows can, just takes a little more work05:25
kalorinexcept at work I ahve a vmware instance for outlook and the informatica tools that we use05:25
Sakkathnot call of duty 405:25
Sakkath(:05:25
kalorinheh game05:25
surgyi play call of duty 305:25
kalorinhave some kids, you'll fix that habbit right away :)05:25
Sakkathlmao no one in the world plays cod305:25
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Sakkathi don't even know where you can buy it05:25
Sakkathcod2 is a different story05:26
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SakkathDisk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table05:26
Sakkathbs05:26
Sakkathhow come it showed the partition table for /dev/sda fine?05:26
surgySakkath:  cedega whould probably    do it, although it doesnt even have a wiki node yet05:26
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Sakkathno, it wouldnt05:27
Sakkath(:05:27
Sakkath+ i'm not spending the $ for a transgamer account05:27
Sakkathpeople always think they can get games workin in wine/cedega05:27
Sakkaththey never do.05:27
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Sakkathi couldn't even get turbotax installed.05:27
kalorinwhy on earth would anyone install turbotax?05:27
kalorinit's webbased now05:27
issyaphotoshop 7 and dreamweaver 2004 install and run great05:27
Sakkathkalorin: this wasn't this year05:27
kalorinwho wants that bloat laying around mucking up things?05:27
Sakkathkalorin: and i don't do taxes, it was for my stepfather.05:28
mantani left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. what happened05:28
surgySakkath:  http://www.cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9087 several of those guys made it work05:28
SakkathI'm only 17 (:05:28
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Sakkathsurgy: yeah, with shitty sound and every-so-often crashes05:28
SakkathI have steam version, not retail05:28
kalorinissya: I was using elements a lot and then discovered that I like gimp better actually05:28
SakkathI doubt it's possible to get ALL Of the games I hve working05:28
kalorinjust took a day or two using it to learn it a little bit more05:28
Sakkathit will work on mac first before inux05:28
Sakkathlinux05:28
kalorinseems to be just as powerful for most photo type stuff05:29
Sakkathwon't be full fps either05:29
surgysakkath i could debat this in the propper channel, #kubuntu-offtopic05:29
issyakalorin: i just havent had the time yet to explore gimp. everytime I start to at work, it seems i can get it done faster in photoshop05:29
Sakkathgod, why doesn't '/dev/sdb contain a valid partition table' that's such BS05:29
ubuntuis there an x ?05:29
Sakkathsurgy: it's a pointless argument so i won't continue (:05:29
kalorinyou should consider setting up xen there sakkath05:29
surgysakkath :)05:29
Sakkathlol05:30
Sakkathxen?05:30
Sakkathhow would that help me05:30
kalorinvirtualization05:30
Sakkathi know what xen is05:30
issyavmware works well05:30
kalorinrather than dual booting jsut virtualize it05:30
kalorinvmware isn't fast though05:30
kalorinxen is almost native fast05:30
Sakkathkalorin: afaik you can't virtualize windows05:30
Sakkathlol05:30
issyai use it in a heavy working enviroment every day. no games though05:30
kalorinyeah me too05:30
kalorinoutlook05:31
issyai dont think the 3d works well05:31
ubuntu0o is there an x code 2 irc room?05:31
kalorininformatica tools05:31
Sakkathso um. can someone help? ;x05:31
kalorincan't say taht I've ever bothered with dual booting05:31
ubuntuim gettin my videog ame done first for my company05:31
kalorinI'd just make another machine personally05:31
Sakkaththat's not even the problem atm05:31
Sakkathit's just getting fdisk to realize /dev/sdb obviously contains a valid partiton table05:32
ubuntuyay a machine perwsonality05:32
kalorinsakkath, if you type p does it print the partition table or no?05:32
mantan i left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. now it won't let me change rez. wtf is going on?05:32
kalorinperhaps it's because of the fake raid thing05:32
Sakkathkalorin: not everyything is available when you are 17. especially a 2nd good gfx card to handle aiglx05:32
Sakkathkalorin: that's os-transparent05:32
kalorinnot to linux05:32
Sakkathkalorin: only to 'help' windows.05:32
Sakkathkalorin: yes, to linux.05:33
kalorinif your'e talking about he motherboard stuff, it's not05:33
Sakkathto windows, not logically, physically yes05:33
kalorinor wasnt' a while back when I tried it05:33
Sakkathkalorin: it is, wanna bet on it? :)05:33
kalorinclearly it's working well for you05:33
Sakkathonly real raid would be05:33
Sakkathkalorin: i've had experience05:33
SakkathHow else would I be able to hdparm both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?05:33
kalorinwell, you're the expert then, why are you here asking us for help?05:33
Sakkathfdisk clearly distinguishes between the two05:33
kalorinright, if they're raided in a mirror, then how would you see two drives?05:34
kalorinperhasp I'm not understanding what you're saying you're having issue with05:34
Sakkathkalorin: I fail to see why /dev/sdb does not contain a vali dpartition table. i've never used fakeraid for linux, was about to, then learned about it's built-in software raid.05:34
Sakkathkalorin: because it's os-transparent05:34
Sakkathit should show NTFS anyways05:34
Sakkathi wouldn't think it's 'part' of a partition table05:34
surgymantan: use this command to change you res "kdesu kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf" and look where it says "screen" you can edit it there, but remember to restart computer after the changes05:34
Sakkathand it's striped, anyways05:34
kalorinit's striped?05:35
Sakkathkalorin: i have to resize my partition (ntfsresize) then repartition with fdisk, then somenhow install it with this fakeraid guide.05:35
kalorinno idea what it'd make of that05:35
Sakkathkalorin: theoretically it should see it. linux sw raid will show both as the right partition type05:35
Sakkaththe raid devices are different devices --/dev/mdn where n is an int05:35
kalorindepends where the partition table is written, if it's on the first drive first stripe then you wouldn't get a partition table on the 2nd drive05:35
Sakkathkalorin: i would have thought that wouldn't matter, but maybe with striped it would. i have no clue how windows does that05:36
surgySakkath: why not just run them in ide mode and use each hdd for a different os? make things easy on yourself05:36
kalorinlinux is somewhat smarter tahn windows, and usually there's a windows driver of some kind you have to use don't you?05:36
Sakkathsurgy: i don't need that much room for linux, i do need more than what an indiv. drive can give me for windows05:36
Sakkathkalorin: yes05:36
Sakkathit would be 'nvraid' on linux, i think05:36
kalorinsakkath, why not just do 2 partitions of one drive then, put linux on 1 and windows on the other05:37
kalorinthen format the other drive vfat and use it for both :)05:37
Sakkathkalorin: because i've had windows on these drives for a very long time05:37
surgysakkath i have a 10gb ide drive you can have if you pay for shipping05:37
Sakkath*sigh*05:37
SakkathIt's supposed to be possible.05:37
kalorinso is antigravity05:37
kalorinand wormholes05:37
kalorin:)05:37
surgysakkath, probably is, its just not something people do unless its the last choice i think05:37
Sakkathhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <-- this is what i'm referring to by the way05:38
kalorinI'm not saying it's not, I'm saying I don't have a clue how you would05:38
Sakkathoh, and by the way: fdisk /dev/sdb shows *nothing*05:39
kalorinYour mileage may vary with other versions.05:39
Sakkatheven if there is no filesystem on there, it still has to be partitioned somehow?05:39
Sakkathkalorin: well theor. things should not be too different, maybe just a few things.05:39
kalorinagain, it depends on where it wrote the partition table05:40
kalorinI suspect it's on the 1st stripe of the 1st drive05:40
Sakkathi wouldn't think a drive would funct. properly without anything :/05:41
kalorinthus you see nothing that makes any sense on the 2nd drive05:41
ubuntuxc05:41
Sakkathbut hey, i donno how windows does it.05:41
ubuntu?05:41
Sakkathis this guide assuming everyone uses mirroring?05:41
kalorinmight be05:41
kalorinI never use stripe sets05:41
kalorinperformance is better I guess, but catastrophic data loss changes are doubled05:41
kalorinminimally raid 5 to stripe05:42
Sakkathsfdisk: ERROR: sector 0 does not have an msdos signature /dev/sdb: unrecognized partition table type05:42
kalorinnever a pair of drives, it's just begging to lose everything05:42
SakkathNo partitions found05:42
Sakkathkalorin: don't jynx me, lol.05:42
Sakkathwell, sfdisk shows slightly more than fdisk05:42
kalorinjust saying05:42
kalorinI buy disks in pairs, and lazy mirror them05:42
kalorinunmount and spin one down when I'm not using it, every night at 4am or so I spin it up, mount it, rsync it, and spin it back down again05:43
kalorinthen I have undelete for a day05:43
kalorinalong with data integrity05:43
kalorinit's more expensive but I don't lose anything05:43
Sakkathi'm gonna have to ntfresize and use fdisk on the 2nd disk SOMEHOW. so there has to be a way to recognize that partition table05:44
Sakkathchrist. i think because it's striped i've got no luck whatsoever.05:46
Sakkathwindows xp can't resize a partition so how else cna i do it?05:46
Sakkathunless somehow i can d/l a util. for windows05:46
Sakkathif i can resize and make fdisk no something is there, i can repartition05:46
kalorinyeah good luck with that05:46
Sakkathvista has a resizer, meh.05:47
Sakkathwhy can't xp05:47
Sakkathhmm gparted is recognizing SOMETHING05:48
Sakkath(/dev/mapper/nvidia_something)05:48
Sakkathbut still is hating /dev/sdb05:49
Sakkathi guess /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac is my striped partition05:50
Sakkathit shows /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as unallocated05:50
Sakkath298.0GB05:50
Sakkatherm 298.10GiB. both sda and sdb say 145.05GiB05:50
Sakkathseems righ tto me.05:50
Sakkaththen it shows /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1 as unallocated, maybe just reserved for something else.05:51
Sakkaththought it shows 298.10 too05:51
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Sakkathntfsresize --info /dev/sda205:51
Sakkatherm05:52
Sakkath    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System05:52
Sakkath/dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1   *           1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS05:52
Sakkathlooks like i'm making progres.... doubt ntfsresize will work though.05:52
Sakkathoh! the 1 is the actual partition and the cegabeac w/out the 1 is just the 'disk' (logical)05:52
gttSakkath: if it doesnt, gparted works great.05:53
Sakkathgparted shows the cegabeac1 as  'unallocated' and only shows ntfs on 'cegabeac' (w/out 1)05:53
Sakkathi could fdisk this, but i can't ntfsresize if i can't read /dev/sdb!05:54
Sakkathmaybe i just need to resize sda since that contains the partition table?05:54
Sakkathmaybe that will work!05:54
Sakkathmaybe i should get norton ghost first xD05:54
Sakkathwait--can i even back up a striped set?05:54
Sakkathlol just dd the harddrives into an archive onto a dvd xD05:54
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zheka__?05:57
Sakkathghost only mirrored.05:58
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shadowh511hello06:14
surgyshadowh511: HIYAS06:21
whabohello is anyone here that can assist? with networking ? or sharing folders between computers?06:22
surgy!ask | whabo06:22
ubotuwhabo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)06:22
surgy!samba | whabo06:22
ubotuwhabo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.06:22
crackhead_25_hey people, how is hardy looking? is it stable? is it good? lots of problems?06:31
vzduch!hardy | crackhead_25_06:34
ubotucrackhead_25_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu06:34
TarosI have a question about Gutsy.  Should I upgrade to it on my Acer laptop, or stick with Feisty?06:34
crackhead_25_vzduch: what's the console command for seeing info about which kubuntu version i have currently installed?06:34
vzduchyou might wanna try 'cat /etc/ubuntu-version' or so06:35
vzduch'cat /etc/ubuntu-release'06:36
crackhead_25_no such file06:36
vzduchthen search for something in /etc/ that ends on 'release'06:37
snarksterok so kicker is set to auto hide and then it hides and NEVER comes back.. wth is that all about?06:38
Daisuke-Idolsb_release -a06:38
Tarosuname -o06:38
Daisuke-IdoGNU/Linux06:38
Daisuke-Idothat's reeeeal helpful06:38
snarksterLOL06:39
snarksteruname -a06:39
Daisuke-Idothat's still just kernel info06:39
snarksteruname -a is everything06:39
Daisuke-Idousername, kernel, time, architecture, SMP, generic OS (GNU/Linux)06:40
snarksterwhat data are you looking for?06:40
Daisuke-Idolsb_release -a is what he wants if he wants to know what version of ubuntu he's running.06:40
snarksterjust look at /etc/release06:41
snarksterthere is no release  in etc?06:41
snarksteryouve got to be kidding.06:41
Daisuke-Idoso wouldn't a simple command he can type in be easier?06:41
snarksterhow do you not know what version of ubuntu you installed?06:42
snarksternot being rude..06:44
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TarosDoes Gutsy have pretty good hardware support for Acer laptops, anyone know?06:45
TarosCompared to Feisty?06:45
epimethgood evenening guys...06:45
snarksterhmm what version?06:45
Daisuke-Idodepends, has asus started using better hardware?06:45
epimethanyone connecting to a vpn using network manager?06:45
epimethspecifically, network-manager-kde (KNetworkManager) ?06:46
snarksterepimeth no but ive seen some howtos before06:46
TarosI've had no problems with hardware on my Acer.06:46
epimethsnarkster: wanna help me out? :-)06:46
snarksterepimeth: well um ill try but ive never done it before06:46
Daisuke-Ido-asus + acer06:47
snarksterill do some searching for you06:47
Daisuke-Idoi've been futzing with the asus mobo in my fiancee's machine06:47
epimethsnarkster: I've done the searching06:47
TarosHow's that working out?06:47
Daisuke-Idoother than the junk via chipset, pretty well06:47
epimethsnarkster: from what I gather, it should work in 7.1006:48
epimethsnarkster: it doesn't for me, but I have different simptoms than what others have06:48
epimethbasically, I get the vpn menu, but there is no 'create vpn' option.  the only option I get is "Disconnect VPN" and it is grayed out06:49
snarksterepimeth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-548565.html06:49
epimethsnarkster: I don't want to install gnome network manager.....06:52
epimethgrrrr06:52
epimethyou wouldn't happen to know what a vpn's configuration file looks like for network manager and/or where it is kept, would you?06:52
epimeth:-)06:52
epimethI'll create one manually06:52
gregis kde4-core broken for anyone else?06:52
vzduchdefine 'broken'06:53
epimethgreg: I'm with vzduch06:53
gregit won't install...everything was working fine until a couple of days ago06:53
gregit depends on kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime, and kdebase-workspace which aren't installable06:53
epimethgreg: did you add the repository?06:54
gregon hardy06:54
gregi have http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu06:54
epimethoh.. on hardy... can't help you there :-)06:54
vzduchgreg: Hardy --> #ubuntu+106:54
gregokay06:54
sigmahardy is still under construction, expect alot of broken things!06:55
* Daisuke-Ido grumbles about wine and photoshop06:56
Daisuke-Idoand the first person to say gimp gets a boot to the head06:56
epimethgimp!06:57
snarksteryah I know, but knetwork manager and gnome manager are almost the same06:57
snarkstergimp ;)06:57
* Daisuke-Ido waggles a finger06:57
Daisuke-Idoboot to the head06:57
snarkster:P06:57
epimethsnarkster: yea, so I figure I'll create my own conf files, maybe... just dunno where they are kept or what they look like... tho they are probably identical to the regular vpnc ones06:58
snarkstergimp is awesome06:58
epimethhay!  that was supposed to be *my* boot!06:58
epimethgimme!06:58
Daisuke-Idoand another one for epimeth06:58
epimethw00t!06:58
* epimeth is happy06:58
* epimeth has always wanted a headboot06:58
* epimeth puts it on backwards06:59
Daisuke-Idothe scary thing is that you probably know what i'm talking about >_>06:59
serga!mp306:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:59
epimethDaisuke-Ido: about photoshop, no... but grumbling about wine is a favorite pasttime of mine06:59
Daisuke-Idono, about the boot to the head thing07:00
Daisuke-Idoyeah, CS2 loads fine07:01
epimethDaisuke-Ido: maybe... what *are* you talking about?07:01
Daisuke-Idoa canadian comedy troupe did a bit about the reading of a rich man's will07:02
Daisuke-Idoand some enterprising second-person potato decided to add graphics from the phoenix wright game07:02
Daisuke-Ido...i mean youtuber07:03
dgeorgehello all i have a few questions07:03
dgeorgeanyone around at the moment07:03
Daisuke-Idoand i have even fewer answers07:03
epimethDaisuke-Ido: Kids in the Hall (or something like that)/07:03
snarksternah no one here07:03
dgeorgehow do i add a wireless network montior to the menu bar07:03
dgeorgeand how do i add gmail to the menu bar07:03
snarksterkids in the hall was an awesome show when i was a teen07:04
Daisuke-Idoactually it was the frantics07:04
Daisuke-Idothe menu bar?  are we talking about the same desktop environment here?07:05
snarksterepimeth: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2006-June/000008.html07:06
epimethDaisuke-Ido: right... sorry. not a clue :-)07:06
dgeorgeyes kde07:06
dgeorgehow do i add gmail to it07:07
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epimethsnarkster: are you kidding? those posts are almost 2 years old and these things aren't fixed yet?07:09
epimethgrrrr07:09
epimethdgeorge: add gmail to kde?  you just go to gmail.com.....07:10
epimethgmail is a web app, not a desktop app07:10
snarkster<shrug> whataya want?? im just doing searches to assist you. LOL07:11
dgeorgeok then why have i seen screen shots of the gmail icon up in the upper right corner of the screen07:11
Daisuke_Idodgeorge: fancy work with ms paint07:11
Daisuke_Idonext question please!07:11
dgeorgedaisuke that is not helpful07:11
snarkstergoto kde-apps07:11
dgeorgenext willing helper07:12
snarksterdo a search for gmail notifier I think07:12
snarkster<shrug>07:12
Daisuke_Idodgeorge: i'm perfectly willing to help someone who's not belligerent07:12
snarksterIm still baffled by the lack of a /etc/release07:12
Daisuke_Idosnarkster: it's in /etc/lsb-release07:13
Daisuke_Idobut yeah, i understand what you mean07:13
Daisuke_Idodgeorge: just for reference, can you point me to one of those screenshots?  i'm curious to see if it's a notifier applet, or just a fancy link to mail.google.com07:15
Daisuke_Idookay, now i remember why i hate totem07:21
Daisuke_Idoit has no option on what to use for video rendering07:21
snarksterstill cant get my damn webcam working either07:23
snarksterwhat a pain in the tookus07:23
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TeslaTonyHello07:28
dgeorgeis kde-apps down07:28
snarksterits something07:28
ahmoshello,I have aproblem here..I can't open adept manager because I have added a wrong repository as I think ..so how to delete it again..?!!07:28
snarksterkde-apps is a pain in the tookus07:28
Daisuke_Idodgeorge: i think it must be, i was having trouble a few hours ago07:29
noaXess!dvr-ms07:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvr-ms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:29
snarksterjust edit the repo list in /etc/apt07:29
dgeorgecool07:30
dgeorgei can't get on at all07:30
ahmosThank's snarkster..I've fixed it ;)07:38
internat85Hi, with kde, how do i setup vnc so that i can connect to the existing session?07:39
kieferHey all :)07:42
kieferAnyone alive?07:43
snarksterAhmos: cool if I helped you07:45
TarosWhat's the command to tell which sda devices are what?07:46
ere4simount Taros07:49
Daisuke_IdoTaros: already mounted?07:50
Daisuke_Idodf -h07:50
TarosYeah.07:51
Tarosfdisk -l was what I was looking for, thanks.  :)07:55
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jester105jamman10508:16
kieferI need assistance, anyone home? :)08:17
ahmoshello, I've installe clamtk virus scanner and trid o update it ..but it aked me to be a root,so how I can do this plz?08:17
jester105kiefer: im here08:17
jester105ahmos: use sudo, ie "sudo freshclam"08:17
ahmoso yhank's08:18
ahmosok thank's08:18
ahmosbut is there another way...just too know08:19
jester105ahmos: log in as root? that could work, but.... you have to set the root password. ubuntu doesnt set up root as default08:19
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kieferJester, Could you help me out?08:21
jester105kiefer: sure thing08:22
kieferCheers :), Heres my issue:08:22
ahmosThank's alot Jester10508:22
jester105mhmmmm.... any time ahmos08:22
kieferIm running Kubntu 7.10, installed it yesterday (Im a linux newb, migrated from WinXP ^_^)08:22
ahmos;)08:22
kieferand whenever I open a .deb file08:23
kieferi click 'install' and it asks for my pass, which i enter, the PC slows down and lags up08:23
kieferthen the .deb installer reappears all greyed out08:23
kieferand closes, without installing anything08:23
jester105hmmm....08:23
jester105kiefer: if all else fails, theres always the command line/terminal08:24
kieferLol, true08:24
kieferBut08:24
kieferWhen I try to compile some things08:24
kieferI get errors, errors that to me look like C++/C errors (stdio.h could nto be found etc)08:24
kiefernot*08:24
kieferSo im guessing im missing some header files lol :(08:25
jester105kiefer: ok, well... do you have the build-essentials package installed?08:25
kieferUmm, not sure, I havnt installed it myself, so im guessing not08:25
jester105kiefer: yeah, install that and you should be good08:25
freepenguinnow I've finally the page of ubuntu free penguin edition: http://www.freepenguin.it/ubuntufp-download-en.html08:26
kieferjester: cheers, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' ?08:26
jester105kiefer: exactly! haha... you're no noob, to be honest08:27
kieferHaha, Im studying for a diploma in IT (Programming & Software Dev.) then moving onto a degree, so im fairly computer literate ^_^08:28
jester105freepenguin: checking out your site....08:28
jester105kiefer: thats awesome! that feild will nearly always bee there, i think08:28
kieferHaha we can only hope08:28
kieferThanks for your advice mate :)08:28
kieferOh, one more thing08:29
jester105kiefer: shoot away08:29
kieferKopete always 'stops-responding' (Sorry for the Windows term lol) whenever i try to log in using MSN Protocol08:29
jester105what are your specs?08:30
jester105cause i noticed that on my 600 mhz p3 it would do that08:30
kieferAcer travelmate 520 Laptop, Pent 2 800mhz (Dont laugh lol)08:30
jester105haha.... exactly! try using pidgin ( i know, i know.. ewwww....)08:30
kieferLmao, cheers08:30
ahmoshey Jester sorry but i still get tat there is no virus definitions are found when I open that program08:31
jester105ahmos: so you did the update definitions command?08:31
ahmosyes08:31
ahmosthat u had sent to me08:32
kieferjester: Uh-Oh.. "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials"08:32
jester105kiefer: i might've spelled it wrong08:33
kieferJust googled it for 'did-you-mean'08:33
kiefercorrect spelling lol08:33
jester105ahmos:  i was just guessing as to what it might be. im not 100% sure08:33
jester105kiefer: hmmmm.... well, in that case, i think you need to enable multiverse/etc08:34
kiefer'build-essential' (No 's') got error "build-essential is already the newest version."08:35
ahmoscould u take a look plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54431/08:35
jester105alright... kiefer i think that it looks like you have it installed already08:36
jester105ahmos: ok, so you are using clamav?08:36
kieferLol cheers jester, ill try compile something and ill let you know about the errors :)08:37
ahmosclamtk antivirus08:37
jester105kiefer: sounds good. if you have that package installed, it should take care of the hearders and such08:37
jester105ahmos: i dont know much about clamtk... try googling it08:37
ahmosok ...thank's again... :o08:38
jester105ahmos: sure thing. i would google it myself, but im about to turn in08:39
ahmosgod bless you08:40
jester105ahmos: anything for a fellow linux user :)08:40
ubuntuanyone familiar with KDE 4gusty?08:40
ahmos:008:41
jester105ubuntu: meh..... so so08:41
ubuntuI got most the bugs out but want to configure Ati and not like any I have tried before08:41
ubuntunot sure I can08:42
kieferJester: are you familiar with FrostWire?08:42
jester105kiefer: ummmm.... not really. its a p2p program, right?08:42
jester105ubuntu: meaning? you wanna reconfigure x for resolution changes?08:43
ahmosI had a problem with frostwire yesterday and the strangest thing lime wire worked properly...ha ha...08:43
ubuntujconfigure so it will have 3d and vidio out put08:43
jester105ahmos: hm.... thats quite odd. did you try running it from the terminal?08:43
kieferJester: Yeah p2p, I was just gonna ask if you knew where i could find the source to compile (No .deb files for me lol )08:43
ubuntuaticonfig seems to bedisconected08:43
ahmosyes and it was a problem of java08:44
jester105ubuntu: umm.... yeah, i havent ever used ati, to be honest08:44
ol_dude67kiefer, you can get the source from there website08:44
ubuntuI have played with many just not as much control on KDE 408:44
ubuntubut it is one heck of a system08:44
kieferdude: oh, cheers - Seems im going blind lol08:44
ol_dude67kiefer, i use slack alot and that is how you have to install it.08:45
jester105ubuntu: yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is the link you want08:45
kieferIs there a terminal command to check java version?08:46
jester105java -v?08:47
ol_dude67na i just tried that .08:47
kiefer"hava --version"08:47
kieferjava*08:47
kiefer:)08:47
kieferLol, prob should have tried that before asking *slaps head*08:47
ol_dude67ya thats it i couldnt remember how i checked.08:47
jester105kiefer: see, now youre the one helping. hahaha08:48
kieferJester: hahaha, Im adapting to the Linux enviroment ^_^08:48
ahmosyou can configure java by sudo update-alternatives --config java08:48
dsmith_do I need to restart after I reinstall flash 9?08:49
dsmith_somehow flash got messed up08:49
kieferahmos:cheers :D08:49
dsmith_so I reinstalled it but its not working08:49
jester105dsmith_: hahaha.... no. just restart firefox and you'll be fine08:49
dsmith_thats what I did08:49
dsmith_I know haha08:49
dsmith_:)08:49
dsmith_hmmm08:49
dsmith_starnge08:49
dsmith_*strange08:49
ahmosthank's god I know something :D08:49
jester105dsmith_: well, log out and back in. or, just restart. haha...08:50
dsmith_typically I should never have to do that08:50
ubuntussure it is the right flash 9?08:50
ubuntumore than one08:50
dsmith_its the one that is installed from firefox08:50
ubuntuk08:50
dsmith_so I am assuming such08:50
ubuntuI have tried many before I get the one08:50
kieferArgh, I keep getting a box pop up "unknown - KDE crash handler"  (the app. "unknown" [nspluginviewer], crashed and caused signal 11 [SIGSEGV])08:51
ubuntucheck there aaare more08:51
dsmith_Shockwave Flash 9.0 r11508:51
ahmoswe all have those crash handlers08:51
dsmith_yea ts installed but youtube is not working darn08:51
jester105dsmith_: go to the terminal and run "sudo killall firefox"08:52
kieferahmos: do we? lmao - is a crash handler like 'not responding' ? (native Windows dweller at your service lol)08:52
ubuntulike a fuse08:53
dsmith_no proceses08:53
dsmith_none running in the background08:53
ahmos:D08:53
nonameerr... Hello, what archiving software is there for linux? I really don't like Ark much...08:53
dsmith_sbackup?08:54
ere4sitar.gz08:54
dsmith_well that too08:54
kieferBrb all, Need a smoke lol - all this work is tiring me out >,<08:54
nonamei mean not gui tools08:54
nonameoh08:54
noname*gui tools*08:54
nonamenot console08:54
jester105noname: ummm.... yeah, ive got nothing for that.08:55
jester105there is.... keep, i think08:55
ere4sithere's mondo and mindi08:55
nonamethx i'll look for those08:55
dbmood1hello cupsys wants to use kerberos encryption anyway to turn that off ?08:55
holais it possibile to join ppp0 to a bridge08:55
jester105hola: yes. how, im not 100% sure08:56
dbmood1and i'm not a root user08:56
holajester105: i tried but it doesnt work08:56
holajester105: my virtual machine does not see internet connection08:57
jester105hola: well, thats a setup in vmware or what not08:57
holajester105: im using virualbox08:58
jester105ok, ummmm.... yeah, i dont know jack about virtual machines... all i know is that in the etherenet settings or what not, you can set up a bridge08:59
ol_dude67well i dont remember to much about setting up virtualbox. but i do know you can set changes like that in vmware.08:59
ol_dude67its been to long since i messed with virtualbox09:00
jester105ol_dude67: haha... i feel ya, i feel ya09:00
holamy ppp0 address is 192.168.100.1 and the br0 adress is 192.168.1.1009:00
ahmoshey jester kiefer bye for now....09:02
jester105ahmos: see ya09:02
ahmosr u here every day at this time jester?09:02
jester105ahmos: haha.... no, rarely this late. only on the weekends. its 2 am where i am. but i should be on this late tomarrow09:03
ol_dude67hola, that sounds about like my router settings.09:03
ahmosok Good luck and i hope to meet u again..:D09:03
ahmosbye09:04
jester105ahmos: see ya09:04
t_maushi guys, can somebody tell me how i can make my mailserver safe, because i think that somebody uses my mailserver as a spamserver ( and i am not happy about that ^^), so is there a chance to make my postfix safe ?09:05
jester105t_maus: i am thinking the same thing about mine as well09:05
t_mausand you dont have a solution ?09:06
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jester105t_maus: wait, scratch that. i know i have iptables configured.... what you can do is set up your firewall to let only local traffic in.09:06
jester105like, 192.168.1.1/24 or what not09:06
holaol_dude67: the problem is thet virtual machine does not see 192.168.100.1 but only the host adress 192.16.1.10, why09:06
jester105for your smtp server09:06
t_mausin the moment the server ist completly free ( without firewall ) that could be an idea so only the ports to open iam needing for the "daily work"09:07
jester105t_maus: wait, you have no firewall at all on it?09:09
jester105baaaaaaaadddddddddd plan!09:09
t_mausnot on my webserver / mailserver09:09
t_mausi have a firewall on the router09:09
t_mausbut i seems to be very open ;)09:09
ol_dude67halo, like i said its been forever since i have set up virtualbox but let me see if i can find you some help.09:09
ol_dude67halo, try asking in #virtualbox09:10
ol_dude67i just checked and there is a channel.09:10
jester105t_maus: yeah, be sure to set up iptables!09:11
t_mausk i will do it now :D09:11
ol_dude67ya that was the first thing i did on my router box was put in a firewall.09:12
jester105ol_dude67: not just on my router, but before i even plugged my server into an ethernet cable, i did it09:13
ol_dude67well i had to have help setting up my router box as i didnt know how to do it, so the guy who helped me showed me how to make a firewall as we were setting it up.09:14
jester105ol_dude67: i downloaded a script for my iptables :)09:14
kadamoh noes!  I just installed Kubuntu on a secondary drive.  When I rebooted it went to Windows, so in the bios I set it to boot to the Linux drive.  When I do that, I see GRUB, but it stops with an error 21.  Does anyone know how to fix this or what it means?09:15
ol_dude67well i had to have ipforwarding for my 2 desktops, and all so i started fresh with mine.09:15
jester105ol_dude67: ipforwarding? like, sharing the same ip?09:16
ol_dude67but i learned alot about firewalls that way.09:16
ol_dude67ya i have 3 boxes and one just is a router.09:16
jester105kadam: i would say..... switch back to the windows one? i dunno09:16
kadamjester105: Do you know how I'd install GRUB on the Windows drive?  It's a hardware RAID0 array...09:18
jester105hmm.... let me seee..... ummmm... get the alternate cd, and boot into it09:18
jester105go to the last step in the menu thingy, and install grub that way09:18
jester105if that made sense09:19
ol_dude67kadam, chances are you should of installed grub to the boot drive anyways.09:19
jester105kadam: actually, to be honest, id just reinstall. it would work better that way, i think09:20
ol_dude67jester105, it made sense to me.:D09:20
jester105ol_dude67: thats probably cause you've done it before! hahaha09:20
ol_dude67ya i have.lmao09:20
kadamol_dude67: I dont' know if it was an option to select another drive.  I actually hoped I could just install to the new drive and make IT the new bootable drive 8)09:20
kadamso, hda0...09:21
jester105kadam: you can, but you have to select that drive to have grub install it to09:21
kadamjester105: Alright.  I'll just reinstall tomorrow morning and install GRUB to the MBR.  I'm jsut scared 8) hehe...  I need Windows for work... blegh...09:22
kadamalright, well, until then, good night!09:22
jester105kadam: if all else fails, theres always your xp cd that you can use and "FIXMBR"09:22
kadamjester105: You mean, if installing GRUB to my main drive causes issues?09:23
ol_dude67kadam, yeah,09:23
jester105kadam: exactly. if you do that, then boot into the recovery thing, you can just fix the mbr. as the command suggests09:23
ol_dude67my tab key sucks, it wont let me do the short cut.09:23
kadamBeautiful, thanks again!09:24
jester105kadam: no problem09:24
jester105k guys, its been grand chatting, but i need to go now!09:24
jester105haha... i can hardly keep my eyes open09:24
hyper__chanyone knows why miro quits with this error?  /usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor09:24
ol_dude67laters09:24
sigma_1234sounds like a bug. miro is still under development09:26
hyper__chseems it runs for others :(09:26
ol_dude67i was gonna say i dont know a dang thing about java other then i have it.09:27
dsmith__yea something is wrong with flash on my system, I went so far as to pull a backup and install it and its still not working09:28
sigma_1234i didnt know it used java09:28
sigma_1234!flash09:28
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »09:28
hyper__chthere's a uuforums thread09:28
sigma_1234i think flash only works in hardy09:29
sigma_1234how do i set arial as my fixed width font?09:29
ol_dude67sigma_1234, thats not true, i did the update for the flash on mine and its working and im on gutsy09:30
sigma_1234oh i dont use flash so i really wouldnt know09:31
ol_dude67well i might of installed mine by hand before the update i dont remember.it may still be broken.09:32
hyper__chI read on uuforums flash is fixed again in the repos (the gpg key)09:33
ol_dude67ok then i was right..lol09:33
ol_dude67dsmith_, does it give you an error?09:34
ol_dude67oh well09:34
dsmith__no09:35
dsmith__did they make changes to flash?09:35
ol_dude67oh i thought you logout.09:35
dsmith__why all of a sudden it does not work09:35
dsmith__I did earlier09:35
dsmith__then did a restore of plugins in .mozilla09:35
dsmith__hmmm flash doesn't work on either fx or konq09:37
dsmith__qtf09:37
dsmith__Wtf09:37
NickPresta!flash | dsmith__09:39
ubotudsmith__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »09:39
dsmith__I am going to purge flash09:42
xenobiusheya09:42
xenobiusi'm shopping for a linux compatable vid card... i was wondering, does anyone have any idea how to determine relative speed of graphics acceleration ?09:43
* ScorpKing waves..09:44
dsmith__xenobius: stick with nvidia09:44
sub[t]rnlheya ScorpKing09:44
ScorpKing:) hiya sub[t]rnl09:44
dsmith__now whats is better install the flash plugin from firefox? or from the repos?09:45
ScorpKing!sound > me09:46
ScorpKingdsmith__: i've installed it from firefox09:47
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dsmith__ok09:50
iltsehi, i'm having a problem installing the fglrx drivers. no matter the way i install them (with envy, with adept or well basically any of the suggestions in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI i always end up in the situation that when i reboot the system hangs when x starts, and before you say "try ctrl+alt+Fx" those don't do anything. the system is09:51
dsmith__i've never had this much trouble before09:51
iltse completely unresponsive and the only thing to do is to reboot again to recovery and reconfigure xserver-xorg again09:51
val0are there hd management tools that will allow me to delete a ntfs partion and then join it with the linux one?09:53
suihi09:58
jussi01val0: as long as you dont want to keep the data09:59
val0jussi01: nope, going to join the partitions and run vm machine10:01
sigmawhich file in /etc/ stores the configuration for a wireless network?10:01
val0just wondering if there is a tool like partition magic10:01
jussi01val0: qparted10:01
jussi01!info qparted10:01
ubotuPackage qparted does not exist in gutsy10:01
jussi01!info qtparted10:01
ubotuqtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB10:01
jussi01there we are10:01
dsmith__ok I got flash working agin10:03
dsmith__I had to dl'd from the adobe website10:03
dsmith__http://benjaminlim.net/blog/?p=1510:04
dsmith__that explains it10:04
dsmith__sorta10:04
jussi01dsmith__: you do know there is a .deb that works on the forums, as well as a use at your own risk in the -proposed repo?10:04
jussi01!flash10:04
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »10:04
dsmith__i tried all that10:04
jussi01dsmith__: even the update in the -proposed repository?10:05
dsmith__something's changed from yesterday to tonight with flash I dont know what it is, but youtube was working last night10:05
dsmith__no10:05
dsmith__i got it working now10:05
dsmith__thanks for the help10:06
dsmith__I will retry the .drb though10:06
dsmith__.deb, on a new install10:06
dsmith__i'd hate to be setting up a clients PC and have to explain to them that their *buntu box dont work with flash10:07
anarkod1 a todos10:09
val0jussi01: thanks :D10:11
sigmabut the flash download from adobe.com works just fine10:11
kaminixWill there be ways to convert the KWordQuiz vocab files to Parley when it's done?10:16
kaminix* when I install KDE 410:17
hari.10:21
vzduch..10:21
jpatrickmorning gentlemen and ladies!10:21
jpatrickthat would of been bettter the other way round..10:22
kaminixI would have :p10:22
JoshOvkimorning jpatrick. you seem i an awfully good mood10:22
jpatrickJoshOvki: better than ".", ".." ;)10:23
dsmith_hmmmm only certain videos on youtube will play10:23
JoshOvkiits morning, how can anyone be happy in the morning!10:23
vzduch*gg*10:23
* dsmith_ is clueless10:23
dsmith_:/10:23
jpatrickdsmith_: it must be testing your taste10:24
JoshOvkidsmithL do all other sites that use flash work ok?10:24
kaminixOpen XML file format (shared with KWordQuiz, Kanagram and KHangMan) that can be edited by hand and is easily usable with scripts <--- means I can use KWordQuiz files with Parley?10:25
dsmith_ummmm whats another heavy flash site?10:25
dsmith_jpatrick: haha10:25
JoshOvkidsmith_ ummm, you in the uk?10:25
jpatrickJoshOvki: america by the looks of his hostname10:26
dsmith_USA10:26
dergringohi10:26
JoshOvkii was going to suggest   www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer   but i think its UK only10:26
JoshOvkiis google video's still alive?10:27
dergringoI heard that hardy comes along with kde4. Fine. But the pre releases still install kde3 per default. Will that be changed? Will hardy come with kde4 enabled?10:27
jpatrickdergringo: it's the target for the next alpha10:28
dergringojpatrick: ahh I see. Thanks :)10:29
JoshOvkii was going to try hardy not long ago, but there was a problem with my download which ment i couldnt access anything10:29
dsmith_google video seems to play fine10:30
JoshOvkidsmith_: so its just youtube :s   try clearing cache, and was browser you using?10:30
dsmith_firefox10:31
dsmith_let me check, but clearing the cach e mau have worked10:33
dsmith_yep, that worked thanks10:34
dsmith_JoshOvki:10:34
dsmith_I've had issues with cache in firefox before, but nothing like that10:34
dsmith_wow10:34
dsmith_so it was never a flash issue at all10:34
JoshOvkidsmith_  working ok now then?:)10:34
dsmith_yep10:35
JoshOvkiexcelent news10:36
JoshOvkibrb all10:36
dsmith_i was thinking something else10:36
JoshOvkimiss me?10:40
kieferHey all :)10:40
jonohey10:45
jpatrickhi jono10:46
jonohey jpatrick10:46
jonohows it going?10:47
jpatrickjono: not bad at all10:47
jussi01gday jono  :)10:47
jpatrickgot some packages in Debian yesterday10:48
jonoheya jussi0110:48
jono:)10:49
kieferHrmm my wireless signal keeps dropping out, and my wireless base is right next to me :S10:51
Hobbseehi jono10:51
jonohey Hobbsee10:51
* Hobbsee disagrees with your blog post.10:52
enryhello10:52
jussi01!hi | enry10:52
ubotuenry: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:52
kieferHehe in 'Jonny English' they make August the 5th a national holiday, thats my b-day ^_^10:53
jpatrick!ot > kiefer10:53
sebastian^good morning all10:53
kieferjpatric: Understood :)10:54
kieferjpatrick*10:54
cxd110hello10:55
ibouhi10:55
kieferCan anyone suggest a good python IDE?10:55
ibouhi10:56
kieferHello :)10:56
jussi01kiefer: eclipse10:56
cxd110eclipse10:56
Jucato!find eric10:56
ubotuFound: gnumeric, gnumeric-common, gnumeric-doc, gnumeric-gtk, gnumeric-plugins-extra (and 43 others)10:56
Jucatohm...10:56
kieferEclipse has a Python plugin?10:56
jussi01!info eclipse | kiefer10:56
ubotukiefer: eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB10:56
jussi01kiefer: certainly does10:56
kieferAh well, cheers10:56
jussi01:)10:56
Jucato!info eric10:56
ubotueric (source: eric): full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.5-1 (gutsy), package size 1907 kB, installed size 11460 kB10:56
kieferive been using Eclipse for 6 odd months for Java10:56
kieferAnyone suggest a good python newb tutorial?10:57
Jucato!info diveintopython10:58
cxd110who is from china???10:58
ubotudiveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB10:58
Jucatobah not newb...10:58
kieferLol, no that sounds perfecr10:58
kieferperfect*10:58
kieferI know C, C++, and Java, so im partially experienced lol10:58
sigmacan kubuntu access wireless networks that require a 28 digit access key to join?10:58
kieferUmm, is Adept Installer like Add/Remove [Ubuntu] for Kubuntu? (Me=Linux newb :) )11:00
Jucatoyep11:00
kieferIs there a way to un-gey-out the yet-to-be-installed packages?11:00
kiefergrey*11:01
sigma!wep11:02
ubotuWEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:02
kieferDont worry, Figured out what im doing with Adept11:02
kieferWEP = Weak & Unsecure.11:03
sigmakiefer: how do you setup kubuntu for WPA if the network manager only accepts WEP keys?11:05
kieferdont use NetworkManager11:06
kiefer(Im fairly new to Linux - I wouldnt recomend asking me for advice)11:07
sigma!info wpasupplicant11:08
ubotuwpasupplicant (source: wpasupplicant): Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 648 kB11:08
kieferTy sigma :)11:09
suitheres a good howto on the web11:09
sigmasui: you mean this one? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu#head-eb83784f0d238e9fd0de695f90911e4ceea4b7e511:10
suisigma: oh, that's a good one too ;) i used a german howto on ubuntuusers.de  (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/wpa_supplicant)11:13
iltsehi, could someone help me with the fglrx drivers? getting a bit frustrated with them.11:14
jussi01iltse: have you followed the instructions under !ati ?11:15
jussi01!ati11:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:15
iltseyes11:16
iltseeven tried with envy and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide11:16
iltsethe problem is that every time fglrx drivers are enabled the system hangs at the point where i should get the login screen11:17
odra??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????11:18
odrahi t00r11:19
JoshOvkii have got myself addicted to a KDE4 game, called   knetwalk11:21
ibouwhat does mplayer-nogui add to kmplayer ?11:22
JoshOvkiit allows you to control songs through terminal11:22
ibouoh ok11:22
JoshOvkihence the  "nogui" at then end  (gui = graphical user iterface)11:22
ibouah ok thanks11:23
JoshOvki:)11:23
ibou:D11:23
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sigmawhere does kubuntu store WEP network keys?11:33
d_mitrywhat is the command to mount an ntfs partition?11:36
ubuntucould somebody please tell me how to remove kubuntu from my computer because i took 150gb for it from my harddrive11:37
ere4siubuntu: you just format the drive11:37
ubuntubut does that mean i loose windows too_11:37
ubuntu?11:37
ere4siubuntu: just format the partition with ubuntu and swap on it11:38
slow-motionhi11:38
ubuntuokay:)11:38
ubuntuhow do i do that btw?11:38
zxy_64hi, which repository do i need to install ia32-libs-gtk  on 64bit 7.10 kubuntu -- adept doesn't see it11:39
ere4siubuntu: put your windows disk in and restart - it will let you format the partitions11:39
ubuntuokay cool i will do that, thanks11:39
ere4sizxy_64, I would enable universe and multiverse in synaptic11:40
zxy_64why synptic, is adept not ok11:41
zxy_64i don't really like mixing tools11:41
* zxy_64 trying ...11:42
zxy_64ere4si: i have this epos alredy checked out11:43
zxy_64epos/repos11:43
ere4siyou can search in synaptic or apt for it zxy_64  - apt-cache search (application) I think11:44
romunovcan anyone notice any abnormalities? http://pastebin.com/d68fd20bb11:45
romunovshould the first line be hashed out like that?11:46
romunovcould this be the reason why i have login issues?11:46
romunovthe system gives me a kinit error and goes into the console11:46
romunovi can startx from there11:46
romunovbut still, it's a hassle, and i can't power down the pc without first going into the console11:46
Sbucatonei have i little question, my pc became very hot (75 degree celsius) and then fan starts ...it's normal ?11:47
zxy_64it's not in11:47
zxy_64ere4si: ^^11:47
FLameBirdany tweaks to make this baby run faster?11:47
ere4sizxy_64, are you sure your spelling it right?11:48
kiefercan anyone direct me to a good beginers guide to Kubuntu/Linux in general? for windows users if possible?11:48
kieferex-windows users*11:48
jussi01kiefer: Id start on the help.ubuntu.com site11:49
kieferjussi01:Thanks :)11:49
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Sbucatonekiefer: start with wiki11:50
Sbucatone!wiki11:50
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.11:50
Jucato!docs11:50
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com11:50
kieferThanks, I'll be sure to read up :D11:50
ere4sikiefer, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy11:50
FLameBirdwhere can I configure services on Kubuntu?11:50
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zxy_64ere4si: yup, i entered "ia32" and got 3 ia32 (java) pkgs,   ia32-libs (installed) and ia32-libs-kde (not installed)11:51
kieferere4si: cheers :)11:51
zxy_64but not ia32-libs-gtk11:51
ere4sizxy_64, I'll check elsewhere for it11:52
FLameBirdwhere can I configure services on Kubuntu?11:52
jussi01!repeat | FLameBird11:52
ubotuFLameBird: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience11:52
jussi01FLameBird: what do you mean by services?11:52
FLameBirdsystems services jussi0111:53
jussi01FLameBird: be more specific?11:53
SbucatoneJucato: i have very important question, i have a toshiba laptop , well sometime i see my pc laptop and i can see 75 celsius degree..then fan starts, is it normal ?11:53
ere4sizxy_64, looks like it is a package that stopped at feisty11:53
FLameBirdjussi01: services like cups11:54
JucatoSbucatone: um. sorry.. not really good with laptops11:54
ere4sizxy_64, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/ia32-libs-gtk11:54
zxy_64damned11:54
zxy_64i wantet to make flash work somehow11:54
jussi01FLameBird: in system settings?11:54
FLameBirdjussi01: not there11:55
jussi01!flashissues > zxy_6411:55
TimSJucato, how can I get gmail-notify to open on startup? I think I have to link it to somewhere11:55
jussi01FLameBird: for cups, go to http://localhost:631 in your browser11:55
Jucato!austostart | TimS11:55
jussi01!autostart | TimS11:55
ubotuTimS: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.11:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about austostart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:55
Jucatolol sorry :)11:56
FLameBirdNow that is going to take a long time if i want to do it one by one jussi0111:56
Jucatofat fingers :)11:56
* jussi01 wins11:56
FLameBirdI am trying to speed up my system here11:56
TimSThanks =]11:56
jussi01FLameBird: cups is for printing...11:56
ere4sizxy_64, have you tried the shockwave flash plugin at mozilla?11:56
Dr_willisGee My Linux boxs all boot so fast its amazing. :) even with all these services11:56
JucatoFLameBird: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services ?11:56
flipstarFLameBird: there a no really unneedet services in *ubuntu11:56
SbucatoneJucato: you mean you don't know enought for laptop problems?11:56
JucatoSbucatone: yep11:56
FLameBirdjussi01: it does take lots of memory11:57
FLameBirdflipstar: oh there sure are11:57
FLameBirdJucato: cant find it there mate11:57
kieferis there a way for me to install 'GNU gettext' through Konsole?11:57
JucatoFLameBird: which one can't you find?11:57
Jucatokiefer: sudo apt-get install <package name>11:57
Dr_willisHmm. How do you even determins how much memory cups is using.11:57
Jucato(maybe sudo apt-get install gettext)11:57
FLameBirdJucato: advanced tab11:57
zxy_64ere4si: i just got a private message it's comming (still in  some proposed-for-testing stage though)11:57
kiefer<Jucato>:cheers,  what would the package name be?11:58
JucatoFLameBird: what version of Kubuntu are you using?11:58
Jucato!info gettext11:58
ubotugettext (source: gettext): GNU Internationalization utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6460 kB11:58
Jucatokiefer: ^^^11:58
kiefercheers mate :)11:58
FLameBirdJucato: hardy11:58
Jucatohm.. it should be there. do you have kde-guidance installed?11:58
ere4sizxy_64, I've had it for ages on a 32 bit sys11:59
TimSCUPS is trademarked by Apple?11:59
Dr_willisApple is one of the supporters of cups i recall.. they may be a bigger partner then what i thought. :)12:00
zxy_64ere4si: i have it on other distro but her i'll have to wait (all amd64 64bit)12:00
TimSAnyone know what port dies PHPMyAdmin run on?12:00
TimSdoes*12:00
ere4sizxy_64, is the os there the 64 one?12:00
jussi01TimS: apple owns cups12:00
flipstarFLameBird: kde3 or kde4 under kde3 there are definitve under systemsetting->advanced->services12:00
* TimS uninstalls12:00
kieferjucato: i try 'sudo apt-get install gettext' and it says 'gettext-base libc6-dev' replaces it, i try to get 'gettext-base libc6-dev' and it says i have the newest version, but pidgin installer says i dont, any ideas?12:00
zxy_64ere4si: yup12:00
FLameBirdflipstar: Kde312:00
FLameBirdand its not there!12:01
ere4siCommon Unix Printing System - cups12:01
Dr_williscups.org for their homepage. :)12:01
flipstarFLameBird: did you removed some kde3 packages ?12:01
flipstarelse you could try rcconf12:02
flipstaror sysv-rc-conf12:02
flipstarthese are console apps12:02
FLameBirdflipstar: nothing at all its a new installation12:02
flipstaralpha4 ?12:02
FLameBirdyeah12:02
flipstarhmn didnt tested it yet12:03
Dr_willis!find sysv12:03
ubotuFound: sysv-rc, sysvinit, sysvutils, upstart-compat-sysv, ksysv (and 5 others)12:03
FLameBirdscrew it I am getting ubuntu 7.1012:03
flipstarmaybe you'll check you #ubuntu+112:03
kieferi try 'sudo apt-get install gettext' and it says 'gettext-base libc6-dev' replaces it, i try to get 'gettext-base libc6-dev' and it says i have the newest version, but pidgin installer says i dont, any ideas? anyone?12:03
TimSWe heard the first time. Chances are, the installer is silleh12:03
Dr_williswhat pidgin installer?12:03
suikiefer: why dont you install pidgin with the package manager?12:04
kieferpackage manager always freezes for some reason12:04
TimSAre you using a deb?12:04
kiefernah, compiling source (so ot install, my bad)12:05
kiefernot*12:05
Dr_willisI just totally got confused by the logic of that statement.. about the freezing...12:05
kieferLmao, .deb's always freeze for some reason12:05
Dr_willisI think theres a deeper issue going on here then. :)12:05
kieferHaha12:05
kieferLets hope not12:05
Dr_willisIf the apt-get system is freezing up your machine.. You proberly should be focusing on fixing that.12:06
kiefernot the apt-get, that works (moderatly, lol) - Just the gui package manager12:06
Dr_willisit maybe related to your other problem about the libx-dev issues12:06
iboui want kmplayer to be my default player instead of kaffeine. How should i do that ?12:07
antonHow can i get flash to work in Mozilla firefox? Ive installed the plugin but it still doesnt work and i don like gnash =(12:07
flipstaranton: did you restarted firefox ?12:08
ibouanton take the old version12:08
kieferanton: this might sound stupid, but did you re-start firefox?12:08
Dr_willisKonqueror settings -> file assoucations -> set it for the various video files.12:08
TheSandmanhow do i install mp3 support for amarok?12:08
antonyea and it still doesnt work.12:08
antonTheSandman that is automaticly asked for when u add a mp312:08
kieferdid you use the firefox plugin installer?12:08
flipstaris it listed in about:plugins anton ?12:09
TheSandmanwell yes12:09
Dr_willisKonqueror -> settings --> configure Konqueror -->  File Associations.            There we go.12:09
antonok ill check =)12:09
TheSandmanbut it still says that the files aren't supported12:09
kieferSometimes the firefox plugin installer doesnt actually install the plugin, (well in my experience anyway), so you might try downloading it yourself and installing it :)12:10
ibouDr_willis: i guess you answered to me12:10
antonOk im downloading it now =D12:10
kieferLet us know how it goes :)12:10
kieferBrb i need a coffee12:10
ibouDr_willis: thanks.12:13
Dr_willis:) Kubuntu handles file assoications so much nicer then this... Other Os.. i often have to use.. :P12:14
kieferBack :)12:15
ibounow i want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?12:16
enzowhich tools do you use to check your mails Dr_willis ?12:16
antonRight so im in konq trying to move the .so file for the flashplayer to the mozilla plugin folder. but then i get acces denied =(12:16
ibouanton do it in konsole12:16
enzowith thunderbird i have many problem for file associations Dr_willis12:16
ibouwith sudo12:16
kieferanton: us 'sudo cp <file location> <file destination>'12:16
kieferuse*12:17
antonAhh thanks =D12:17
kiefernp :)12:17
ibouenzo why using thunderbird? kmail uis just so great12:17
ibou<== troll12:17
enzowith spam,  and imap folders ibou ?12:17
ibouyes12:18
enzook gonna try again, maybe after years it's better12:18
iboui love kmail12:19
ibouu can set more things than in gmail12:19
iboulike the sliper folder12:19
ibouwhich czn be one of your imap folders12:19
ibouperfect for gmail users12:20
ibouI want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?12:21
Dr_willisenzo,  I only use the various web-mail sites12:22
enzoibou: you have no problem with file association while opening mail attachments in kmail ?12:22
ibouenzo: kmail is the default mlyail client on kde. So file association is already set perfect12:25
enzook12:25
enzoand to surf, you use konqueror ibou ?12:25
antonRight im a linux newb so this question is kinda lame. How do i get root acces?12:29
kieferdepends, (im also a linux noob) what are you trying to do if its via konsole, just use 'sudo <command to run as root>'12:30
antonIm trying to move a .so file for a flash plugin and since i fail at terminal im gonna need to be root user i think :P12:30
Dr_willissudo cp whatever wheever12:31
kieferyou can do that via konsole: "sudo cp <file> <destination>"12:31
Dr_willisI cheat  and use a fixed flash deb i found on the !flash factoid :)12:31
antonRight now i tried that and i didnt work =( are the > supposed to be there?12:32
kieferno, dont have the <'s12:32
antonk12:32
Dr_willisanton,  NO. those are just shing an example12:32
antonright12:32
kiefere.g.: "sudo cp file.deb /etc/network"12:32
antonYES12:34
antonIt worked12:35
antonthanks a lot guys =D12:35
kieferHehe, Good job :) your welcome12:35
kieferDoes anyone know if an alternate .deb package installer exists?12:35
Dr_williskiefer,  Huh. You mean a replace ment for apt-get and dpkg?12:36
kieferDr_Willis: umm (me=linux nub :] ) like, you know when you open a .deb file12:37
kieferthe dialog that appears12:37
Dr_willisNo idea on what one opens. I dont douibleclick on debs. :)12:37
kieferit always freezes. meaning i cant install using .deb files12:37
Dr_willisI install them with 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'12:37
kieferoh, maybe that will fix my problem, is that the way to doit without using the gui?12:38
Dr_willisThat is how you install a deb package from the shell... yes...12:38
Dr_willisas for fixing your problem.. no idea on that12:38
kieferOh, Cheers, you just helped me more than you think ^_^12:38
Dr_willis!apt-get12:39
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:39
Dr_willisThis is covered in the basic apt-get docs. :) and guides12:39
kieferCheers mate :D12:39
kieferis it packages.ubuntu.com to view packages?12:40
enzohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/ kiefer12:40
Dr_willisthats a web based package search site.. theres other ways12:40
Dr_willisenter apt:// in konqueror :)12:40
kieferenzo/dr_willis: thanks fella's :)12:41
Dr_willisoops apt:/12:41
Dr_willisjust 1 slash12:41
kieferLol okay12:41
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enzoi can use apt-get update and then aptitude upgrade in kubuntu ?12:44
Dr_williskubuntu uses the same  apt system as ubuntu. so yes.12:45
enzook12:45
Jucatotechnically, yes... but why not just aptitude update too?12:45
Dr_willisive had issues in the past with aptitude.... :)12:45
Jucatoalthough afaik, aptitude's magic doesn't work 100% if you don't use aptitude update first12:45
Dr_willisI had aptitude try to remove and then reinstall 200+ packages at one time befor. :) i dont trust it any more12:46
enzoaptitude is better than any other tool12:48
enzoso if aptitude has problem, so has synoptic/adept12:48
LinaLovequick question: suggestions for a ftp client using kubuntu besides KFTPGrabber and gFTP which both hung up on my connection to several servers whilst listing12:49
Dr_willisaptitude tries to do more.. and in my case it tried to do too much. :)12:49
JucatoLinaLove: tried Konqueror?12:49
suiyeah, konqueror is quite good for anything12:50
sui:)12:51
enzoi have nvidia card and 2 screens, how can i configure my dual screen, there is a special tool to do that ?12:51
Jucato!dual12:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:51
Jucato!dualhead12:52
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama12:52
Dr_willisI use the nvidia config tools to enable my 2 monitors12:52
enzowhich prog is it Dr_willis ?12:52
Dr_willisInstall the nvidia drivers, then   its.. Hmm.. sudo nvid<tab> :)12:52
Dr_willisnvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig12:52
Dr_willisone of those 2 has a gui config.12:53
enzonvidia-settings => core dump12:53
Dr_willisThats a bad sign.12:54
LinaLovethanks for the tipp Jucato :)12:55
ibouI want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?13:00
Jucatoibou: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> look for the video type (type in the search box) and in the Embedding tab for that file type, put embedded mplayer at the top of the list13:01
* Dr_willis never noticed the embedding tab befor13:02
Dr_willisAha! theres the setting thats making .divx files play wrongly in the browser. :)13:03
LinaLoveanyone knows why the sound isn't working on kubuntu with my card allthough having made some alsa drivers?13:06
elvirolothe kopete "now listening" module doesn't seem to be working with amarok and kde 413:07
iboulinalove what is your machine ?13:09
LinaLovea 3 year old 512mb ram amd with a really weird soundcard :]13:10
iboulinalove you could try with this : linux-backports-modules-generic13:10
ibouthen reboot13:11
ibouit could work13:11
iboui had my sound with this13:11
LinaLovefound something in system preferences - sound system which allowed me to select audio stuff13:11
LinaLovefrom automatic i for testing issues switched it to alsa13:12
ibouJucato: thanks but i put embedded mplayer at the top of each list and i always have kaffeine plugin :(13:12
Jucatoibou: are you sure you're doing it for the correct file type? and in the Embedding tab?13:13
iboujucato every time i have mplayer embedded i put it on the top of the list. In the embedding tab yes13:15
Jucatohm. strange.. maybe you need to restart Konqueror first?13:16
iboui tryed13:16
LinaLoveibou: where do i enter that linux backports modules generic? :x13:16
ibousudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-generic13:16
LinaLove>_<13:16
LinaLovethx13:16
ibouyou have to activate the backports in the sources.list13:17
LinaLoveand this works how? :|13:18
iboudid you installed them ?13:18
LinaLovejust remove the # in front of the lines?13:18
LinaLove deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse13:19
LinaLove deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse13:19
ibouyes13:19
iboujust remove #13:19
LinaLovecan't write the data :|13:19
ibousudo kate sources.list13:19
iboudon't remember where the file is located13:20
Jucato!kdesu13:20
flipstar /etc/apt/sources.list but you also can use adept_manager instead13:20
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)13:20
ibouyes13:20
ibousudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list13:21
ibouor adept13:21
LinaLovedone :)13:21
LinaLovebrb, rebooting :)13:22
ibouok13:22
flipstaryou dont have to13:22
Jucato!kdesu | ibou13:22
ubotuibou: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)13:22
flipstaroh13:22
ibouyes she had to with those modules13:22
flipstaroh already installed..didnt knew13:22
Jucatoibou: I'm pointing to the fact that you shouldn't use sudo with GUI apps13:22
iboujucato i read that13:23
iboujucato did'nt know13:23
iboujucato i go to your hyperlink13:23
matissehi13:24
matissehow do I add a kernel module ?13:24
flipstarmake sense..thanks jucato13:24
matissethere is a shell command for it...13:24
Jucatoload a kernel module? sudo modprobe <module_name>13:25
LinaLoveibou: i got it working :D13:25
LinaLovethanks so much =]13:26
iboujucato thanks for the information13:26
iboulinalove hehe13:26
LinaLovejust had to change a bit more stuff in kmix13:26
LinaLovewith rear and front jack13:26
LinaLoveand the bass doesn't do anything yet but this is a start13:26
MyOpenSourcehi all mind help ?13:26
matisseJucato: yes, thats what I meant. thx13:26
ibouyes i have some problems too but it works13:26
iboutry to remove your alsa setting before installing linux-backports-modules-generic13:27
LinaLovewell13:27
LinaLovethis was pure stupidity13:28
LinaLoveas it wouldn't work before i just played with bass and volume13:28
LinaLoveand it was just turned off13:28
Jucato:)13:28
ibou:D13:28
matisseIs there a possibility to sort a shell output alphabetically ?13:28
LinaLove:D13:28
Jucatoone of the most common errors :)13:28
LinaLoveJucato: "error 30"13:28
* MyOpenSource using kubuntu latest ver on presario v3000 using broadcom wireless .. i ve install the broadcom driver offline using file from ubuntu pages.. the restricted panel also done ... but the kubuntu cant connected to net plz13:28
LinaLovewhen the error is like 30cm away from the screen ;D13:28
Jucatoalso known as PEBKAC13:29
Jucato!broadcom13:29
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx13:29
JucatoPEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair13:30
kieferWhen I goto the pidgin site to download it, it only offers me "Windows, Fedora Core, and  CentOS / RHEL' downloads, :S13:30
MyOpenSourcei ve done it Jucato13:31
MyOpenSourcebut still cant be conected13:31
kieferDw, Found what I was looking for on ubuntu package index13:32
flipstarkiefer: on the pidgin.im site theres only the source for linux ..13:32
kieferflipstar: yeah i realised, so i grabbed the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com :)13:34
flipstarokay but there out of date ..13:35
matisse!usb13:35
ubotuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick13:35
JackWinterwhat kde application can I use to take capture windows or screenshots?13:35
matisseJackWinter:  ksnapshot13:35
JackWinterthanks matisse13:36
kieferis there a way to download a .deb package with all its dependencies at once?13:36
flipstarif the depencies are availible gdebi should do that ..13:37
ibouJucato: ok it my mplayer plugin works now. I forgot some setting in file association. Thanks a lot.13:37
enzokubuntu has detected a driver for my wifi card, now i'd like to connect to my wifi network, how can i do ?13:39
kieferenzo, what model is your card?13:40
kiefermodel/brand*13:40
LinaLoveare there like "script"-addons for konversation?13:41
enzo3945 intel13:41
kiefersorry enzo, im really only usefull when it comes to D-Link wifi products, ask around, someone will be able to help you :)13:42
enzobut kubuntu has detected my card and installed it kiefer, i just need now to have a gui to put my wpa password i imagine13:45
enzowhat is the prog to configure wifi interface, you know kiefer ?13:45
Ace_NoOnehi - I've just installed Kubuntu 7.10, now trying to add universe and multiverse13:46
kieferenzo: KNetworkManager13:46
Ace_NoOnevia Adept Manager > Manage Repositories, I've added the following:13:46
Ace_NoOnedeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse13:46
Ace_NoOnethat doesn't do anything tho!?13:46
flipstarAce_NoOne: you can do that in adept13:48
flipstaror add that specific line in sources.list13:48
Ace_NoOneflipstar: I wanted to go the GUI way - not recommended?13:48
flipstarsure than just use adept_manager13:48
Ace_NoOnethat's what I just tried13:49
Ace_NoOnewindow title is Software Sources > Third-Party Software > Add13:49
enzoKNetworkManager is the little icon in the systray kiefer ? cause i have no windows, when i launch it13:49
flipstaryou also could just make checks on universe restricted and so on13:50
Ace_NoOneflipstar: ahh, they are checked already on the previous tab - my bad13:50
kieferEnzo, what happens when you right click the little icon?13:50
Ace_NoOnenow gotta figure out why Git doesn't show up...13:50
flipstaryou updated the package list ?13:51
Ace_NoOneI think so13:51
enzoi see that linked network is checked13:51
flipstar!find git | Ace_NoOne13:52
ubotuace_noone: Found: git-core, git-doc, gitk, jigit, 4digits (and 26 others)13:52
enzoahhh oups, i think i have to activate something on my dell kiefe,r i check13:52
Ace_NoOneflipstar: in Adept Installer, I search for "git" - it doesn't show up13:53
Ace_NoOneall boxes are checked13:53
enzooh no, i just need to deactivate wireless network, and activate it again, and i can see wireless networks kiefer13:53
flipstartry that refresh button and search again ;)13:53
kieferOhk, So you just wanna know how to (de)activate your card?13:54
Ace_NoOneflipstar: in Adept Manager, I did Fetch Updates, then started Adept Installer13:54
Ace_NoOneI feel so stupid right now...13:54
kieferAce_NoOne: Welcome to my world :)13:55
Ace_NoOnehehe13:55
Ace_NoOneflipstar: FYI, "apt-get install git-core git-gui" worked - not sure why it's not showing up in the Adept Installer GUI14:03
matisseWhat do I do if my usb hd isn't detected ?14:09
flipstarmatisse: nothing at /var/log/messages when you plug it in ?14:10
JackWinterwhat is katapult?14:14
aidyhi, how come there's no qt/kde client for MPD in ubuntu14:14
Ace_NoOneJackWinter: a program launcher14:15
matisseflipstar: there is nothing new. do you mean ../syslog ?14:18
matissebut there's also nothing new14:18
matisseproblem solved...14:19
ubuntuhi14:22
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martijn81hi Lexo14:23
Lexoi am from georgia14:23
LinaLoveibou:14:24
LinaLoveis there a way to execute a windows command while connected to a windows ftp?14:25
martijn81Lexo: have a question?14:25
Lexono14:26
Lexom414:26
Lexocvs14:26
Lexoautoconf14:26
Lexoautomake1.914:26
Lexolibtool14:26
Lexovim14:26
Lexogcc-4.114:27
Lexog++-4.114:27
Lexolibssl-dev14:27
Lexolibmysql++-dev14:27
LinaLovecould you stop that please? :)14:27
Lexolibglut3-dev14:27
Lexoglutg3-dev14:27
Lexolibglui-dev14:27
Lexolibglitz-glx1-dev14:27
Odd-rationale!paste14:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:27
jpatrick!paste > Lexo14:28
jpatrickLexo: please use the pastebin next time14:28
flipstar..14:28
flipstarhes gone14:28
jpatrickflipstar: Ive muted him14:28
flipstaroh14:28
willie_is this the best place to say that I just tried to install Hardy Alpha 4 and it failed on configuring the base system?14:28
jpatrick!hardy > willie_14:28
willie_a clean install over freshly formatted ext3 2GB partition14:28
gundam_rx78nt1does anybody know how to make the changes done to /etc/fstab active without rebooting?14:29
LinaLovegood job jpatrick :p14:29
jpatrickflipstar: looks like he did go..14:29
jpatrickLinaLove: just my job14:29
LinaLovetheh :)14:29
AzzmodanAnyone know of a GTK theme that would fit well with the Dark Oxygen theme?14:29
LinaLoveyeah, can anyone tell me a good ftp client besides konqueror with the possibility to execute raw commands? :)14:30
LinaLoveKFTPGrabber always hangs up on me whilst listing14:30
Odd-rationaleLinaLove: filezilla is pretty good.14:31
gundam_rx78nt1LinaLove: gftp14:31
Azzmodangfpt is nice, but if it hangs on listing you probably need to change active/passive mode14:31
gundam_rx78nt1Azzmodan, I haven't had any problems with it so far.14:31
LinaLovethanks guys :D14:31
dick-richardsonhow do I print to my Kubuntu machine from my wife's Mac?14:32
LinaLovedick-richardson: you could try using winscp14:33
LinaLovedunno if theres a mac version of that14:34
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dick-richardsonI already have a network share, You're saying just save whatever she wants to print to that and have me print it manually?14:35
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ubuntuhow do i create a mount point?14:36
ubuntui'm unable to create a folder in /media14:36
Odd-rationaleubuntu: use sudo14:36
ubuntui'm also running off the live CD14:36
gundam_rx78nt1did you sudo14:36
dick-richardsonyou need to be root to create a folder in /media/14:36
ubuntui used sudo :)14:36
dick-richardson /media is on the live cd14:37
gundam_rx78nt1sudo mkdir /media/<name>?14:37
dick-richardson= not writable14:37
ubuntuopened as root :)14:37
AzzmodanI just did "sudo mkdir /media/test" and it made a folder with no problem14:37
flipstaryou cant create something in /media on live cd .. i thing14:37
flipstaruse /mnt14:37
Odd-rationaleubuntu: alternatively you can use the /mnt folder which should be empty.14:37
ubuntui need to mount my sda1 to access a previous kubuntu install and fix the grub14:37
dick-richardsonjust use /mnt then14:37
JackWinterdon't know if this is the right channel, but here it goes, and apoligies in advance ;)14:38
gundam_rx78nt1ubuntu: if it doesn't work, get grub-superdisk.  It will help you fix your grub problem in 3 clicks14:38
gundam_rx78nt1now, I just made changes to my /etc/fstab.  How do I make it active w/o re-booting?14:39
JackWinterI suspect diskaccess is bringing my kubuntu close to it's knees, much more so than win on the same hardware.  Asus P4B P4 3 GHz and normal IDE disks, no sata.  Hopw can I troubleshoot this?  Any pointers to the correct channel, sites, benchmarking progs?14:39
Azzmodan"mount -a" will mount everything in fstab14:39
ubuntusudo apt-get install grub-superdisk?14:39
AzzmodanJackWinter, check out "hdparm"14:40
flipstarbonnie++ i a benchmark program but i would check if dma is enabled JackWinter14:40
gundam_rx78nt1ubuntu: grub superdisk is an iso image the you need to download.14:40
gundam_rx78nt1hold on14:40
ubuntuohh, then run as a live cd?14:40
gundam_rx78nt1yes, or you can install on a jump drive: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/14:41
ubuntuand thats fine for dual booting?14:41
gundam_rx78nt1yes, it is.14:41
gundam_rx78nt1I  used it 3 days ago when I installed  Backtrack 2 and wiped my grub with lilo.14:42
ubuntui installed backtrack on a thumb drive14:42
iltsecould someone help me with the fglrx drivers? still having the problem that when i reboot after installing the screen goes blank when i'm supposed to see the login screen. (made a thread on the forum about this too http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3090993.0 )14:42
ubuntuthough i can only get it to run like a live CD14:43
gundam_rx78nt1you should follow the wiki.  look for the dual boot howto.14:43
gundam_rx78nt1It worked for me.14:43
ubuntuok :)14:44
ubuntugotta switch to xp now :(14:44
gundam_rx78nt1good luck.14:44
ingridcan anyone get into www.kde-look.org ?14:44
ubuntuthanks14:44
kieferwhen Konquorer doesnt ask where to save a file, wheres its default save location to save to?14:44
gundam_rx78nt1ingrid: I think it is down.  I have been trying since 4:30am.14:44
ingridgundam_rx78nt1: that makes sense. thanks14:45
kieferingrid: i cant get in14:45
kiefer-either*14:45
gundam_rx78nt1well,  got to go.  see ya later.14:46
kieferPeace14:46
kieferBrb, need coffee14:46
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JackWinteris dma fir ide disks not enabled by default in kubuntu gutsy 7.10 ? I'm pretty much a noob ;)  I see no /etc/hdparm.conf nor do I have any /dev/hd* entries?14:54
flipstarsee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA14:55
JackWinterflipstar: that was exactly the page I was looking at ;)14:56
flipstarso what does hdparm say ?14:57
JackWinterI find no enties for /dev/hd*   ??14:57
flipstaryou have to replace the * with you harddisc ..14:58
flipstarfor first use a for second b and so on14:58
JackWinterI tried a ls /dev/h* and got only /dev/hpet.  What would my ide disks be called then ?14:58
flipstare.g. /dev/hda14:59
enzoi kill kdenetwork, i start it again, but it doesn't show my wifi network, i have to do something ?14:59
BluesKajHowdy All :)15:00
flipstar!howdy15:00
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:00
flipstar:)15:00
JackWinterthat's what I thought too, but there is no /dev/hda "ls /dev/hda" returns "no such file or dir"15:00
flipstaryou are sure that you have an ide drive ?15:00
flipstaryou may check sudo fdisk -l15:01
mefisto__I'm looking for a linux cad program that is easy to learn/use, and preferably creates autocad-compatible files. Any suggestions? (I have almost no experience with cad software)15:01
flipstarmefisto__: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html15:02
mefisto__thanks flipstar15:02
BluesKajI'd like to capture an audio stream off site that uses flashplayer with either VLC, Amarok or any other app that may work ...any suggestions?15:03
BluesKajfrom a site , rather15:04
ibouhi15:04
JackWinterweird.  sudo fdisk -l shows a /dev/hda and /dev/hdb.  a ls /dev/hd* show nothing.  A sudo hdparm /dev/hda give no such file or dir.  man this confuses me ;)15:04
flipstarme too JackWinter15:05
JackWinterso maybe I finally found the cause of my problems.  Now just how do I fix this ;)  Any idea what irc channel to go to to find the experts ?15:06
JackWinterflipstar: urgh blushing they are called sda and sdb.  Why would that be, they are ide not scsi disks...15:09
flipstarsata15:10
JackWinterbut they are old ata drives, suppose they are connected through a sata controller on the mainboard.  Ok15:11
flipstarwired15:11
smith50ide drives show as sdX in kew kernels15:12
smith50kew=new15:12
smith50dma is enabled by default i think15:12
JackWinterso then I can do "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" to enable dma ?  Any risk in doing this ?15:13
JackWintersmith50, how do I see if dma is enabled ?15:13
JackWintersudo hdparm sda"" returned nothing mentioneing dma...15:14
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smerili am trying to install truecrypt but when i klick on the icon truecrypt_4.3a-0_i386.deb it says that i am already using 1 other packet manager and because of that i cant install the program but the problem is that i dont know wich program is already running15:16
flipstarsmeril: just take a look at ksysguard and search for adept or synaptic15:17
JackWinterhmm, running sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda resulted in HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device15:17
smerilis there a quick comand to acces ksysguard?15:19
smith50I dont think you can JackWinter, i think you can only really look in the dmesg, it's supposed to be on by default15:19
smith50there's sdparm but that won't help you either15:19
smerili found it15:19
smerilshould it be a menu called search or do i have to  find the file manual?15:20
flipstarright theres an search form15:21
smeriladept_notifier is runing can that be the problem?15:22
flipstarno15:22
smerilok15:22
flipstarif nothing works you may try15:22
flipstar!adeptfix15:22
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:23
JackWintersorry to be a bother smith50!  What am I looking for in dmesg?  "dmesg | grep dma" returned:15:23
JackWinterata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x000103f6 bmdma 0x0001fc00 irq 1415:23
JackWinterata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00010170 ctl 0x00010376 bmdma 0x0001fc08 irq 1515:24
smith50heh, you know about as much as I do15:24
JackWinterok, thanks anyway ;)  Gonna get a cup of coffee and read dmesg line by line.  Maybe light will dawn..15:25
JackWinterhmm, i suppose the following means that the drive is in dma mode? "ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100"15:30
jussi01!dma | JackWinter15:33
ubotuJackWinter: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA15:33
BluesKajJackWinter, yup15:33
JackWinterok, then that is not the problem.  On to running bonnie .  Thanks alot for the help!15:34
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smith50JackWinter: that would be it the configured for bit I guess15:37
lvswould you please help me: in my freshly installed kubuntu the konqueror doesn't work :(15:38
crackhead_25_hey what's the command in grub to boot from a cd image ind rive??15:41
crackhead_25_anyone know? what's the command in grub to boot from a cd??15:44
flipstarwhy dont you use your boot options in the bios ?15:45
amber_i have my space15:47
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ArielleIDENTIFY15:48
antonAnyone who knows of a nice divx player for mozilla?15:48
ArielleNO15:48
antonFor joox15:48
anton=)15:48
Arielleno15:48
anton=(15:49
DreadKnight!wacom15:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:50
Arielleha ha ha loosers15:50
antonlol amber15:51
Arielleyep but that is not my name my name is arielle15:51
DreadKnight!wacom15:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:51
DreadKnightanyone knows how to compile the wacom tablet driver?15:52
Arielleno bye bye even15:52
SAngeliHi, I changed linux distro and wish to create a new user account. How do I import my kmail and firefox account and settings (as I have ssl certificates, bookmarks, and mail account settings)?15:58
flipstaryou probably just have to copy the config dirs15:59
romunovdoes anyone play openarena?16:02
jussi01romunov: yes16:03
jussi01!anyone | romunov16:03
uboturomunov: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?16:03
flipstarbtw where is all that stuff listed ? in /factoids.cgi its only particular ..16:04
DreadKnightromunov: i play from time to time...16:05
jussi01flipstar: which stuff?16:05
jussi01!bot | flipstar16:05
ubotuflipstar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:05
flipstarthe !anyone thing for example16:05
flipstar..okay the anyone is in it16:06
jussi01flipstar: they are all at that address16:06
X9nLinuxXRunning Dapper on an old iMac with KDE.  Opened hard drive icon to find text color below icons is off white on a white background.  How do I change that color... and the color of the apple menu bar to while we're at it?16:07
DreadKnightis there any point for adding the KDE4 PPA in hardy?16:07
flipstarjussi01: the !launchpad for example is not16:08
jussi01flipstar: yes it is16:09
jussi01use the search...16:09
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: have you considered upgrading?16:09
lokpestis there some known bug between ogg-theora videos and dolphin??16:09
DreadKnightlokpest: what's the .. effect?16:09
flipstaroh wait there are several sites..16:09
jussi01flipstar: also, leave the ! out16:09
X9nLinuxXhehehe... yeah, but between here and there it would be good to work with what is available16:09
flipstari saw just the first..my bad16:09
lokpestDreadKnight: just klicking the file (not even opening it) makes that dolphin window freeze16:10
lokpestand I have to force it shut down16:10
DreadKnightlokpest: kde3 or 4?16:11
flipstarim out byebye16:11
lokpestDreadKnight: 3.5.816:11
DreadKnightlokpest: kaffeine?16:11
X9nLinuxXso aside from an upgrade, how do I mess with the font colors on the icons?16:12
lokpestwell, yes, but it occurs just clicking the file, not opening it16:12
lokpestuses kmplayer also, nut kaffeine is my standard player16:12
|Dreams|is it possible to resize my partition on my hard drive so i can move 80gb of my files onto it then format and reinstall my OS on the first partition16:12
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: well, dapper is a bit ancient, but i guess you could try editing your color scheme from the system settings page16:12
DreadKnightlokpest: so you tried both and got the same result?16:13
lokpestDreadKnight: well, im not trying to play the video (I think I _can_ do that)16:14
MaTiAzHmm, does Kopete result in SIGSEGV every time when connecting to MSN?16:14
lokpestDreadKnight: Im trying to move it to another place16:14
X9nLinuxXTook a dive in looking... but even appearance -> fonts it doesn't seem to show where to change the colors16:14
DreadKnightlokpest: i see, well didn't had such problem in kde3 or 4   :\16:14
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: i suggest look and feel / appearence16:15
DreadKnightlokpest: you should check if the same thing happens when in konqueror ;)16:16
X9nLinuxXAgain, not finding anything that shows where to change the colors16:16
FrauHansenwhat's up with kde-look.org ?? i get an 404...can somebody confirm?16:16
DreadKnightFrauHansen: confirmed16:17
X9nLinuxXhave already been fishing around for a while before asking here... surprised that its so 'hard to find'16:17
ibilici tried to install sun jre 6 and Adept manager says that it had an error comitting changes16:17
storeI want to limit the bandwidth going to one pc anyone know of a good way to do this? Anyone know of a piece of software to do this?16:17
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: so you want to change the font color of the panel?16:17
X9nLinuxXno, the font color of the icons that appear when the hard drive window shows up16:17
lokpestDreadKnight: konqueror did it! :)16:17
X9nLinuxXand the 'applemenu' also16:18
DreadKnightlokpest: i suggest filling a bug report :P16:18
lokpestDreadKnight: ok :)16:18
FrauHansenDreadKnight: thanks for checking16:18
X9nLinuxXoff white text on white background just doesn't cut it16:18
ibilicAdept crashed16:18
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X9nLinuxXthe appearance -> 'icons' panel doesn't show anything about colors, nor 'fonts' 'colors' ...16:20
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: yeah, it seems so... i was just checking it...16:20
ibilic!Adept16:20
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto16:20
X9nLinuxXIIRC, dapper is the newest system that will run on the old imac thats available right now16:20
X9nLinuxXunfortunately16:21
tashiro_Im having trouble Compiling SATAN any help?16:21
lokpest(btw, any body know if there is plans for dolphin for move/copy-feature "this file" to another place in the dropdown-menu by right clicking it like in konqueror??)16:21
ibilic!Adept-crash16:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:21
X9nLinuxXon mouseover, the applemenu bar at least changes to blue so its 'livable' but not preferable as is... but the regular icons don't do that... so that part sucks16:22
tashiro_Any 1 know how to compile satan?16:22
DreadKnightcan anyone help me compile the latest wacom drivers? :P16:23
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: i'm not much into macs but if i find out i'll let you know :\16:23
ibilic!database locked16:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about database locked - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:23
ibilic!ubotu16:23
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:23
X9nLinuxXwell, I can't fault you for fishing / trying.  This channel has been the whole reason to go with Kubuntu instead of the other choices.  People here are great for being courteous and helpful as much as possible.16:24
tashiro_Can u Help me compile satan1.1.1<ubotu>16:24
tekteenubotu is a bot16:25
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.16:25
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: :) you could try filling a bug report...16:25
ibilic!Adept crash16:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:25
tekteen!adeptfix16:25
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:25
ibilictekteen: thanks!16:25
tekteennp16:26
X9nLinuxXnever even tried that.  Barely even getting started exploring Kubuntu these days16:26
X9nLinuxX!bug reports16:26
siriusHi, do you know how to shorten the lenght of password? Where is the setting to change?16:26
X9nLinuxX!bugreports16:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bugreports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:26
tekteen!bug16:26
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots16:27
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: [18:26] <Sho_> DreadKnight: Right-click -> Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options -> Text color16:27
tashiro_Doesent any 1 here know howw to compile satan1.1.116:27
tashiro_any 1?16:27
tekteentashiro_: no but I do know how to compile16:27
tekteenare you getting an error?16:27
X9nLinuxXhow do ya 'right click' on a one button mouse?!!!!16:28
tashiro_well when i compile it keeps searching for perl5 but never finishes16:28
tekteenok16:29
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: as far as i know about macs, you got to hold some other key too16:29
tashiro_i ran "perl reconfig" and it never seems to finish locating perl16:29
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: macs "ctrl" key... how the heck it's called xD16:30
tekteentashiro_: can you pastebin what happens?16:30
X9nLinuxXI like the mouse control panel for this... there is no such thing as a one button mouse in the configurations16:30
ToyMancan anyone point me to a good how-to on configuring xorg.conf so that composite window effects work on kde4?16:30
tekteenToyMan: you need 3D graphics16:31
tekteenyou may want to try the resticted drivers manager16:31
tekteen!restricted16:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:31
ToyMantekteen: yes, how exactly does that convert to xorg.conf settings?16:31
tashiro_checking to make sure all the target(s) are here...16:31
tashiro_Ok, trying to find perl5 now... hang on a bit...16:31
tashiro_thats been goin on for hours16:31
tekteenToyMan: no idea16:32
DreadKnightX9nLinuxX: try the "option" key while cliking, as well as the other functional keys (alt, shift)... don't remember mac's one mouse button for right click solution, anyway i can't image life with a single button mouse16:32
ToyManmy window effects dialog says i need the xcomposite and xdamage extensions16:32
tekteenChanges the driver I guess16:32
ToyMani'm pretty sure it's an xorg.conf config issue16:32
tekteenno idea16:32
ToyMank, thanks anyway16:33
tekteentashiro_: the tarball might be broken. What are you compiling?16:33
winterelfhi..16:33
tashiro_SATAN 1.1.116:33
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tekteenok16:34
tekteenis it a port scanner?16:35
tashiro_yeah16:35
winterelfgot a problam downloading from adept manager while downloading it says"ther was an arror commiting changes posibly there was a problam downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" ,,, it do that on every download i do16:35
tekteenwhy not use nmap16:35
tashiro_already have namp16:35
tekteenthere is a gui for it16:36
tashiro_Satan is just too cool to pass on16:36
tekteenok16:36
tekteenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62634616:36
winterelfsome oune have any idead?16:36
tashiro_I prefer using my scanner in konsole16:37
X9nLinuxXah!  Maybe this is getting somewhere...16:37
tekteenok16:37
tekteenme too16:37
tashiro_Konsole is so much kooler16:38
tekteenlol16:38
* tekteen likes the konsole because it is easy to use16:38
tekteenhi | tecie198016:39
winterelf?16:39
winterelfgot a problam downloading from adept manager while downloading it says"ther was an arror commiting changes posibly there was a problam downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" ,,, it do that on every download i do16:39
tecie1980Good morning tekteen16:39
JackWintercan anyone tell me if this is an ok result for bonnie++ on a slightly older machine, or if there is something obvioulsy wrong..? tor,2G,4148,55,22000,41,12642,14,4745,56,28564,11,160.4,1,16,4885,57,+++++,+++,7508,66,5893,62,+++++,+++,8442,7116:39
tekteen!hi | tecie198016:39
ubotutecie1980: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:39
tekteenoops16:39
tekteenlol16:39
tekteen!repeat|winterelf16:39
ubotuwinterelf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience16:39
X9nLinuxXwell, changed some text colors... but can't find what that affected16:39
winterelfamm16:40
tashiro_Is Ubotu a BOT?16:40
tekteenubotu is a bot16:40
jussi01!bot | tekteen16:40
ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.16:40
ubotutekteen: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:40
jussi01grr16:40
tekteenjussi01: i know16:40
tashiro_Oh16:41
jussi01tekteen: sorry, thwat was meant for tashiro_16:41
tekteennp16:41
tekteenubotu is smart16:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:41
tekteennm :-D16:41
tecie1980I'm having some problems getting dual screens to work in Kubuntu Edgy using an Nvidia card. I have 2 identical LCD montirors, and I can do cloned dual screens, but when I try and do dual screens  it reverts to this weird thing where screen 2 is 800x600 and screen1 is black, however the mouse can move through both. Also, it can't load menus or anything, including the right click menu on the desktop that's visibile (it tries to, but16:42
tecie1980sort of sits there and flashes) -- anyoone know a workaround?16:42
tekteenI am not an X guy16:43
adz21ctecie1980: u using twinview or xinerama?16:43
tecie1980I'm not sure.. I had been trying to use what was included with the display settings package on the System Settings console16:43
adz21coh ok, i never used that before tbh16:44
tecie1980adz21c:  How would you suggest I go about this?16:44
adz21ctecie1980: pastebin me your xorg.conf16:44
tecie1980adz21c: right now it's in single screen mode again. Is that OK or do you want the offending xorg.conf file (I can reconfigure, but I need to log out and back in again)16:45
adz21ctecie1980: get it so u got a good single monitor set up16:46
tecie1980adz21c: OK, it's up at http://pastebin.org/1787116:47
adz21ctecie1980: ok gimmie a couple mins16:48
tashiro_!repeat|winterelf16:48
ubotuwinterelf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience16:48
tashiro_!repeat|patience16:48
ubotupatience: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience16:48
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tashiro_sorry had to do that16:49
tekteen!msgthebot | tashiro_16:49
ubotutashiro_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.16:49
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jpatricktashiro_: /msg ubotu !repeat :):)16:49
adz21ctecie1980: what screen res u want on each monitor?16:50
tashiro_haha16:50
tomahasamootI'm having trouble with xorg.  I seem to have lost the 1920x1200 mode, so the desktop is bigger than the screen and keeps scrolling.  I can't fix it using the System Settings tool.16:52
ibou_is there a way to get my system back as it was yesterday ?16:52
ibilicgcc doesn't know where my stdio.h is16:52
tomahasamootI've also noted that the gamma is off now.16:53
tekteenibou_: no16:53
tashiro_ha i guesse nmap will do16:53
ibou_damn16:53
tekteenibou_: why?16:53
tomahasamootwhat's the best tool to configure xorg?16:53
adz21ctecie1980: what screen res u want on each monitor?16:54
ibilicwhy can my system not link to standard c libraries?16:54
tomahasamootadz21c: did you mean to message me?16:55
adz21ctomahasamoot: no16:55
tecie1980adz21c: 1280x76816:55
tashiro_azureus always terminates when i open it any ideas?16:56
ibou_tekteen i made some errors by erasing some package16:56
tekteentashiro_: open it from the konsole16:56
tekteenibou_: which package?16:56
tashiro_did that still coses16:56
tashiro_Im on gutsy16:57
ibou_ibou_: it's ok now thanks16:57
ibou_oops16:57
tekteentashiro_: if you run it in the konsole you can debug16:57
ibou_tekteen it's ok16:57
tekteenlol16:57
tekteenI have done that before16:57
tashiro_ok16:58
adz21ctecie1980: http://www.pastebin.org/17875 try that, back up ur current one then replace it with that16:58
tecie1980brb.... restarting X.17:00
tashiro_got this output on konsole "Exception in thread "main" org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [gtk_init_c                      heck() failed]"17:00
tecie1980adz21c: I now have dual screens, but the resolution is off and I can't load the KDE desktop driver. Should I try to fix them manually in xorg?17:04
arto_hmm17:05
adz21ctecie1980: I would, the guis never seem to quite get it right for me17:05
Sbucat...xD well hardy rocks all multimedia keys works , gutsy no ..,, in fesity multimedia keys works too ..why ?17:09
tomahasamootadz21c: there used to be a comand line configuration tool for x.  xconfig, or some thing like that.  But I can't find it.  Is this tool, or something like it still around?17:10
jbrcksHello, I just installed kubuntu on my system and in the Kmenu the names of the apps are messed up for the default installed apps. ie: _: Entries in Kmenu: , appears before all the apps.  Applications I installed myself appear fine in Kmenu17:11
DreadKnightSbucat: strange things also happen regarding the wacom tablet/mouse :\17:12
jbrcksAnyone know the reason for this or how to fix it?17:12
BluesKajjbrcks, once you use the apps the names will revert to the proper ones17:12
SbucatDreadKnight: i have also wacom tablet...in gutsy works fine :D17:12
DreadKnightSbucat: what tablet type? xD17:13
SbucatDreadKnight: mmxD i have made a little tutorial too...video tutorial...wacom classic xl17:13
DreadKnightSbucat: well, the wacom mouse is the actuall problem, it only works for me in feisty... but not in gutsy or hardy... what a crap...17:14
DreadKnightSbucat: link to the tut? :D17:14
SbucatDreadKnight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738kyim12G017:14
adz21ctomahasamoot: don't know, i have given up on the tools all together17:14
jbrcksBluesKaj: I am going through my Kmenu opening the programs, will they correct themselves when I restart xserver because are not changing for me.17:15
tecie1980adz21c: The solution was to remove all of the lower resolutions that I didn't want.... Now all I have to do is figure out how to change which side kubuntu things monitor 2 is on17:16
adz21ctecie1980: if u look at the config file its the twinview orientation options17:17
DreadKnightSbucat: what's that software you are using for capturing? :\17:17
adz21ctecie1980: says dfp-0 leftof dfp-117:17
ibou_i want to remove all my *toto* named files from my / Can i do it with 1 command ?17:17
SbucatDreadKnight: you don't read ?17:17
SbucatDreadKnight: do you want the webpage ?17:17
ubuntuhey may i ask how i get to windows files from kubuntu?17:18
SbucatDreadKnight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57389017:18
SAngelido you know where in kubuntu firefox store user data? I have to migrate to kubuntu PC17:18
DreadKnightSbucat: i've seen the link... but i got some other sort of issue... the mouse is not moving the cursor so to say :P17:19
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SAngeliMoreover, do you know of any kmail plugin that minimizes to system tray?17:20
SbucatDreadKnight: ah..mm that tutorial is only for wacom tablet like mine is this http://wacom4classicubuntu.wordpress.com/17:20
SAngelifound out about that17:20
SbucatDreadKnight: so i have a pen like you can see17:20
DreadKnightSbucat: i think i'll try compiling from source :\     anyway, what's the name of the software you used for recording the video?17:21
tecie1980adz21c: thank you muchly for your help with my xorg problems!17:21
SbucatDreadKnight: it's recordmydesktop...but i have used an unfficial interface .... xD17:21
adz21ctecie1980: no problem17:21
DreadKnightSbucat: uuuu xD it looks interesting as far as i can tell... any link to it?17:22
SbucatDreadKnight: :D----------> kde-app________>> search recordmydesktop17:23
DreadKnightSbucat: you mean on the http://kde-apps.org site that's curently not working? :D17:23
SbucatDreadKnight: yeahh today damned site doesn't work17:24
antonanyone got a tip for a nice divx player for mozilla?17:24
DreadKnightSbucat: oh well, thanks . i will search for it later, maybe i'll get lucky :)17:24
SbucatDreadKnight: but it need of kommander....17:24
Sbucatneeds17:24
SAngeliPlease help: firefox IRC does not answer. I need to move my entire firefox profile from my old pc to this current kubuntu pc. Do I just cp "/home/sangeli/.mozilla/firefox/a0u3ku0f.default" ?17:24
DreadKnight!kommander17:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:25
SbucatDreadKnight:  is a kde application xD like  every my application ...17:25
DreadKnightSbucat: hmm don't know about it17:25
SbucatDreadKnight: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843 :D17:25
SbucatDreadKnight: is a kommander application too17:25
SbucatDreadKnight: kommander is a application to run serveral easy scripts and interfaces...but i repeat is for kde ,,,but it rocks too in gnome17:27
DreadKnightSbucat: kde user here :)  well it looks interesting, didn't knew about it, will definetly check it out. thanks :D17:28
SbucatDreadKnight: :D i have made that stuff :D17:28
DreadKnightSbucat: uuu nice :-)17:29
SbucatDreadKnight: bye bye and good luck for your damned wacom tablet mouse17:30
DreadKnightSbucat: thanks man xD17:30
DreadKnightsee you around17:30
kkathmanIm using firefox + AdBlock, and I'm trying to view ESPN.com, the far right panel which has video feeds that come in automatically - this works fine in SUSE, but for some reason it wont in kubuntu.. anyone here have a suggestion?17:33
__-osh-__Sbucat: I'd love commander more if I could "reference" code from the commander script instead of pasting it into it. Kommander is great, but it could be better.17:34
Sbucat__-osh-__: well i know maybe the most of it ...what's the problem ?17:35
Sbucatmaybe one day i will do some video tutorial17:35
Sbucatsorry i have so few time...17:36
DreadKnightSbucat: i think he means you should make a base app supporting plugins/scripts instead of hardcoding everything.... so it will be more modular ;)17:36
__-osh-__Sbucat: From what I gather, when I write a kommander script I have to paste my python code into that script, I can't say that "when you come to this point in the code, run this python-script with these parameters". Not that I know of anyway.17:37
SbucatDreadKnight: well i plan to delete dvdauthor and images2mpg because i see there so much gui for that so..i think one day you will see only converter :D17:37
kieferIs there a way to change the color of the task-bar? (Sorry for the M$ Windows term hehe)17:38
DreadKnightSbucat: you could use launchpad's (www.launchpad.net) PPA (personal package archive) to create a repository ;)17:38
Sbucat__-osh-__: why you can't you can you can17:38
SbucatDreadKnight: mmm i have no time unluckly ...i hope in help17:39
SbucatxD17:39
Sbucat__-osh-__: create global variable...then...17:40
DreadKnightkiefer: kde 3 or 4?17:40
SbucatDreadKnight: then i am studing damned c++ so... -.- too much things to do and so few time17:41
DreadKnightSbucat: i understand :)17:41
kieferDreadKnight: not sure (Only switched from M$ Windows to Linux 2 days ago), Kubuntu 7.10, does that mean anything? lol17:42
DreadKnightSbucat: i could help you with the repository thing if you want17:42
Sbucat__-osh-__: you could paste your problem in paste bin17:42
DreadKnightkiefer: yeah, kde 3 by default (not that you could customize the color in kde4 anyway :)))17:42
DuEzZzIeRlol ohh yeah mean... not waisting $$ on windows17:42
SbucatDreadKnight: mm well i have done only an easy install.sh i have not made a make file.... xD17:43
kieferDreadKnight: So Im stuck with silver? lol, dont get me wrong, I love silver :)17:43
__-osh-__Sbucat: nevermind. thanks anyway. it's good to have a kommander-expert around. =)17:43
Sbucat__-osh-__: :P dude when youi see me just ask :D bye17:44
DreadKnightkiefer: seems to me a bit hard to change the color :|17:45
lokpesthi again17:45
kieferDreadKnight: Lolzzz, I might try my luck with google, Thanks anyway :)17:45
DuEzZzIeRwhat color17:45
kieferEveryone is always so helpfull here ^_^17:45
kieferDuEzZzIeR: I hadnt really decided :S17:46
DreadKnightkiefer: give me a second...17:46
kieferOhk, Cheers :D17:46
lokpestwhat do I need to let kaffeine play .avi composed of div4 and mp3?17:46
DuEzZzIeRcheers17:46
lokpestI get sound but no picture17:46
DuEzZzIeRkaffeine17:46
lokpestyes, I have that17:47
DuEzZzIeRcoffee17:47
lokpestIt should play it ootb?17:47
DuEzZzIeRmt.dew17:47
lokpest??17:47
DuEzZzIeRjk17:47
DuEzZzIeRi'm waking up just missing17:47
lokpest*rolleyes*17:47
DuEzZzIeRi use kaffine17:48
DuEzZzIeR*smiles17:48
lokpestI do too17:48
lokpestbut it doesnt work here!!17:48
DuEzZzIeRdownload updates maybe17:49
lokpestlatest stable version17:50
DreadKnightkiefer: the easiest and best way would be for you to get a theme from http://www.kde-look.org/ and install it... but right now the bad news is that most of the kde sites are not working, so try again later ;)17:51
kieferOhk, Thanks - Yeah I heard their down a little earlier, I'll be sure to check it out at a later date :)))17:52
DreadKnightxD17:52
DuEzZzIeRsomeone go get me some mc.donalds pls17:52
lokpestwell f*ck17:52
lokpestall that get picture not is ogg theoras17:53
lokpestall other formats gets sound only17:53
lokpesthelp plz!17:53
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Greenerylokpest: have you tried playing on mplayer?17:55
emilsedgh!language | lokpest17:55
ubotulokpest: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:55
DuEzZzIeR|lol|17:56
lokpestGreenery: kmplayer does the same17:56
DuEzZzIeRcinimon toast?17:56
mefisto__lokpest: have you installed w32codecs?17:57
Greenerymaybe the video is corrupted17:57
kieferWhat version does Kubuntu7.10 come with again? my memory fails me =p17:57
DreadKnightkiefer: you can make different versions of /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png and you tell you how to load them. it's the tile used by the menu by default :) change it's values etc in an image editor like gimp for example :P17:57
lokpestGreenery: it most videos, and things I have played as late as yesterday17:57
kieferwhat version of KDE*17:57
DreadKnightkiefer: 3.5.8 probably :)17:57
kieferLol cheers mate, is there a way to check?17:58
DreadKnightkiefer: i can tell*17:58
organixany KDE app should have a 'About KDE' in Help menu17:58
kieferLmao17:58
DreadKnightkiefer: right click, help, about kde17:58
kiefer3.5.8 cheers17:58
lokpestmight it be a xine thingy?17:59
mefisto__lokpest: have you installed w32codecs?17:59
DreadKnightkiefer: what color would you like the panel to be? :>17:59
kieferUmm, Not really sure17:59
kieferI like to go beyond customization lol17:59
DuEzZzIeRÎÿ¿17:59
lokpestmefisto__: I think so, but it besides the point, it does not play thing corectly today that it did yesterday17:59
mefisto__so the avi played yesterday, but not today?18:00
DreadKnightkiefer: well, kde4 is pretty much a rewrite ;) but it has just been released... and it needs more time to be complete/more polished18:00
kieferOhk Cheers :)18:01
lokpestmefisto__: avi, and a lot of other formats like .mov only get sound and no visual18:01
kieferOn a side note - is there a way to disable vertical scrolling with the mouse?18:01
DreadKnightkiefer: you would probably need to manually edit the x.org config file for that i think xD18:02
mefisto__lokpest: try changing xine engine parameters in kaffeine. in the video section, change driver to "auto"18:02
kieferDreadKnight: Just what I wanna be doing at almost 5am ^_^18:03
lokpestmefisto__: ok, doing a reinstall of kaffeine and xine now, btw18:03
kieferDreadKnight: where can I find said file?18:03
DreadKnightkiefer: xD well never heard of anyone willing to do such a thing, but it's possible as far as i know :>18:04
Daisuke_Idoprobably not a good idea to go poking around in your xorg.conf without knowing what things do18:04
kieferDreadKnight: 2 years studying for a degree in IT (Programming and software dev.) is about to pay off :)18:05
Daisuke_Idothe obvious question that pops up is: what has changed on your system since it was able to play video?18:05
DreadKnightkiefer: you need to get administrative rights over it and you can mess up things, i don't recommend doing such things as a linux newb :)18:05
Daisuke_Idothat includes anything you might have done, as well as software updates18:05
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kieferDreadKnight: Haha, Id like to hope that common sense plays a role in editing system files18:06
Daisuke_Idokiefer: you'd think, wouldn't you?18:06
Daisuke_Idobut alas, most of the time that isn't the case18:06
kieferDaisuke_Ido: Hehe, Too true18:06
mefisto__kiefer: if you edit xorg.conf, it's not a bad idea to make a backup of your current one first, so you can easily undo changes18:07
DreadKnightsomebody tell kiefer where to find the xorg.conf file :) i'm whashing my hands xD18:07
p-fis there a way to change the steps by which my volume keys increment/decrement the volume? 12% per keypress is a bit too much.18:07
lokpestmefisto__: hmm, I cant frind that :(18:07
sonic_anyone having issues switching from users that use kde 4 and users that use kde 3.5.x? Specifically in sound programs will freeze in kde 3.5.8 if a user is on kde 4 then logs out and another logs in with 3.5.8.  amarok, xmms, etc, all freeze.18:07
kiefermefisto__: Theres that common sense i was talking about ^_^18:07
lokpestmefisto__: not on a english version, im afraid18:07
jcgkffycsdose apt have anything like a reinstall command?18:07
DreadKnightmefisto__: what's the point in making a backup if you don't know how to restore it? xD18:07
mefisto__lokpest: in kaffeine, settings menu> xine engine parameters18:07
kieferDreadKnight: I dont know how to use it, but I know how to use IRC clients anf Ubuntu help forums lmao18:08
kieferand*18:08
DreadKnightxD18:08
Daisuke_Idokiefer: check that ^ first, try x11 as your setting, see what that gets you18:08
lokpestmefisto__: already says auto18:08
mefisto__lokpest: try changing it to xv, that's the default I think18:09
kieferDaisuke_Ido>  I must have missed something, could you say 'that' again? :)18:09
lokpestmefisto__: no good18:10
Daisuke_Idokiefer: your issue is video, right?18:10
kieferNo lol, thats somebody else, Confusion hehe18:10
Daisuke_Idoahhh...18:10
kieferIts all good :)18:10
Daisuke_Idomy apologies.18:10
kieferHaha, Easy mistake18:11
* DreadKnight casts dispell on Daisuke_Ido18:11
Daisuke_Idomefisto__: x11 is the "pretty much guaranteed to work"18:11
mefisto__which would be xshm in kaffeine settings, right?18:13
lokpestmefisto__: btw, it handles somethings like ogg-theora visual right though18:13
mefisto__lokpest: that suggests a codecs problem18:13
Daisuke_Idotheora's open.  the others are not...18:13
lokpestmefisto__: it strange as im not avare that i have messed with anything18:13
Daisuke_Idohrmm.18:14
* Daisuke_Ido scratches his chin18:14
lokpestIf I havent messed with it how could it be broken?18:14
Daisuke_Idolokpest: i'm going to prescribe an install of kubuntu-restricted-extras18:14
mefisto__lokpest: do you remember how you installed w32codecs?18:14
lokpesthow can i se if i have it?18:15
danya hello .. I'm having a problem after getting the update icon .. and try to install the updates I get this partial update msg and when i do click on it while installing I get this msg >> error authenticating those packages << and a list of the these packages .. what should I do ? .. I'm on gutsy gibbon ..18:15
kieferDoes anyone know of a location on teh web where I can download packs of wallpapers at once?18:15
Daisuke_Idodanya: you're using third-party repos?18:15
danyaDaisuke_Ido : how can I know ?18:16
DreadKnightdanya: i guess you should press Y and enter :P18:16
Daisuke_Idokiefer: back on windows, there was a little thing called webshots, which was horrendously buggy and memory-intensive, but did just that, downloaded wallpaper packs and rotated them18:16
danyaDaisuke_Ido : I'm using 3 softwares in 3rd party repos18:17
kieferHaha I like it that you say "Back on windows" like we crossed the border and were deserters or something18:17
kieferwe defected! for the motherland!18:17
Daisuke_Idoi did defect, and i'm bringing as many people with me as i can :D18:17
DreadKnighti haven't used windoze for one year or more... lost track of time actually O_o18:17
kieferHaha, I have to use windows, Uni only has WinXP and Mac OS X18:18
kieferScrew Os X, So im a Windows expert, Always wanted to try Linux though :)18:18
sigma_1234!search18:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:19
izzy_linux is off the wall18:19
kieferLolz, I like the fact that its open source and free - Just amazing after using Windows for so many years18:19
Daisuke_Idokiefer: laptop running ubuntu + virtualbox running xp18:19
Daisuke_Idostay with your principles and stay compatible with campus :)18:20
izzy_i just dual boot18:20
kieferDaisuke_Ido: Laptop running XP and Kubuntu 7.10 :)18:20
DuEzZzIeRhi18:20
mefisto__lokpest: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras as Daisuke_Ido suggested? that should install everything you need to play avi and other restricted formats18:20
izzy_yea18:20
DuEzZzIeRpatitioned18:20
izzy_of course18:20
kieferYup, I need to be able to boot into XP for class :)18:20
Daisuke_Idokiefer: i found something interesting you might be interested in: http://www.webilder.org/18:20
kieferCheers, ill take a look :D18:20
DuEzZzIeRof course18:20
lokpestmefisto__: could not find pakage "kubuntu-restricted-extras"18:21
izzy_search in google to c how18:21
lokpestits multiverse?18:21
Daisuke_Idouhh18:21
Daisuke_Idoare you running gutsy?18:21
izzy_yea18:21
kieferDaisuke_Ido > Perfect - Tyvm :D18:21
Daisuke_Idonah, not you, lokpest18:22
Daisuke_Idokiefer: no worries18:22
izzy_u can dual boot vista, xp, and gusty18:22
lokpestbut why do I need kubuntu-restricted-extras when It played fine last evning?18:22
* lokpest is considering a reinstall of kubuntu18:22
mefisto__lokpest: that's why I asked how you installed the codecs in the first place18:22
lokpestmefisto__: Im not avare that i did18:23
kieferMy roommate has inter dual core, with a boot menu of: Kubuntu 7.10, Vista, and XP sp1 and XP sp2 (for developer reasons)18:23
kieferintel*18:23
lokpestor how i did18:23
lokpestbut the played allright18:23
mefisto__lokpest: make sure you have multiverse enabled in sources.list18:23
lokpestmefisto__: I guess It came as a dependecy18:24
izzy_  does ne one know how to use wep crack?18:24
izzy_does any 1 no how to use the wep crack?18:27
lokpestmefisto__: now, mplayer plays it, but kmplayer and kaffeine doesnt18:27
lokpestmefisto__: sounds like a xine problem right?18:28
unagii find it sad that i have to use a virtual machine running windows in order to encode jpegs into a .mov18:28
Daisuke_Idointo a quicktime movie?18:28
unagiyea18:28
unagifor web streaming18:28
kieferIve stayed away from VM's ever since I worked on DevHook for PSP18:29
unagiapparently ffmpeg can do it but i cant figure it out18:29
Daisuke_Idointo a quicktime movie, where quicktime is a proprietary format supported only by apple, on only the OS X and windows platforms?18:29
unagivirtualbox seems to pretty tight18:29
Daisuke_Idoand you're surprised you have to do it through windows?18:29
unagi........yea?18:29
Daisuke_Idoi'm just saying, don't be surprised by the obvious18:30
unagisometimes i hate my industry because no one ever understands why i need things18:30
unagiexcept of course by people in my industry18:30
sigma_1234lol18:30
kieferCan anyone tell me if theres a free package thats eqivilent to PhotoShop?18:30
unagikiefer: gimp18:30
Daisuke_Idooh, and look into flash video for online streaming, ten million youtubers can't be wrong18:30
sigma_1234!search18:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:30
unagibut wine runs photoshop18:30
kieferunagi: cheers :)18:31
Daisuke_Idokiefer: the GIMP, but there is a learning curve18:31
sigma_1234pretty slowly i bet18:31
unagia HUGE learning curve18:31
Daisuke_Idoand someone tell my copy of WINE it runs photoshop.18:31
unagictrl + d does NOT deselect18:31
unagiand sigma............i havent noticed a difference18:31
kieferOh no, im getting sick of these damn curves i tell ya!18:31
Daisuke_Idobecause apparently it hasn't gotten the memo18:31
kieferHahaha18:31
sigma_1234what kde search apps are available besides strigi?18:32
unagii run it on virtual box18:32
Daisuke_Idothat's probably the best bet, especially if you have hardware virtualization18:32
unagithe best part of vbox is you can scale the memory and video memory18:32
Daisuke_Ido...i don't.  not on here at least18:32
sigma_1234also does strigi reek havoc on hdd usage and percentage cpu used?18:32
mefisto__sigma_1234: I like searchmonkey, but it's gtk not kde18:33
sigma_1234yeah you told me about it yesterday. is strigi really as bad as they say it is?18:34
sigma_1234and can someone tell me why kubuntu cant connect to wep networks when ubuntu can on the exact same configs?18:35
mefisto__I don't know, but I couldn't get strigi to work properly so I gave up.18:36
kieferstringi never ever returns any results for me, no matter what i search18:36
sigma_1234did you let it index files?18:37
kieferUhhhh... *Runs away*... So, No - Lol, Me=Linux newb :)18:37
mefisto__the indexing always hangs for me18:37
sigma_1234lol its all a learning curve18:38
kieferI think when i use the "me=linux newb' excuse in a year from now, it wont work so well *shifty eyes*18:38
sigma_1234my advice. learn from the command line up18:39
kieferExactly what im doing ^_^18:39
kieferIm doing all I can via Konsole, straying away from the sugar-coated gui18:39
mefisto__sigma_1234: maybe look into google desktop for searching?18:39
coreymon77hi everyone, my macbook all of a sudden stopped detecting my kubuntu box on the network (stopped allowing me to use screen sharing with it) how do i check if it is my linux box that is causing the problem18:40
Daisuke_Idokiefer: it actually still works pretty well for me :D18:41
kieferLmao18:41
Daisuke_Idojust about a year and a half on *buntu18:41
Daisuke_Idothough i don't use kde anymore, i still hang out here for fun18:41
kieferGratz, Ive got 11 or so years on Windows :) lol18:41
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coreymon77anyone know how to set up sharing on my kubuntu box, because it stopped working without using freenx18:42
kieferIm hoping to migrate permenently to Linux :)18:42
Daisuke_Idolet's not start on windows.18:42
sigma_1234!wep18:42
ubotuWEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:42
kieferHaha, Yes, Lets not :))18:43
Daisuke_Ido16 years starting with windown 318:43
BluesKajkonqueror with samba, coreymon7718:43
MegiddoHello, I'd like to know more about the 64-bit kubuntu. Is it able to run 32-bit apps in a compatibility mode?18:43
coreymon77erm18:43
coreymon77why use samba18:43
kieferI used 3.1 for about 6 months18:43
Daisuke_Idowhich overlaps the time i spent in dos :D18:43
coreymon77BluesKaj: this is a macbook18:43
coreymon77BluesKaj: samba isnt needed for macos, is it?18:43
kieferDos, those were the days.. *stares into space dreamily*18:43
jmengHey everyone, I have this external USB harddisk and I want it to be mounted in one specific directory every time I plug it in - how would I go about this? Any hints? Thanks :)18:43
BluesKajcoreymon77, dunno ..sorry :(18:44
jmengThat is, I _don't_ want it to be mounted in /media/disk...18:44
Daisuke_Ido32 mb ram, desqview running my bbs and everything else...  hot.18:44
DuEzZzIeR 05h  2pblue  3buntu  3dzip  abikenow  abinit  about-this-computer  about-window  acerlaptop-wifi  ack  actgraph  activerdf  adacgh  add-apt-key  adelin-backup  adept  aedilis  afip-ng  agfxmbcs  aiccu  ailife  ain7-portal  ajato  akasha  akregator-newsgator  alphaflowforms  alqua  alsa-driver  alsa-lib  alsa-plugins  alsa-utils  alternative-music  amarok  ami  ancient-beast  andvare  anewt  animan  animu-player  anna  anton  aocapps  aphisreco18:44
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DuEzZzIeR audioformat  audioplayer  audioquake  auth-client-config  auto-ndiswrapprer  autobuild-list  autofsck18:44
MegiddoHello, I'd like to know more about the 64-bit kubuntu. Is it able to run 32-bit apps in a compatibility mode?18:44
Daisuke_Idoi would call that spam...18:44
DuEzZzIeRohh srry18:44
woddf2Hello18:45
woddf2I cannot mount my Windows partition!18:45
DuEzZzIeR:(18:45
woddf2I upgraded to Gutsy yesterday.18:45
DuEzZzIeRno big loss18:45
MegiddoCan anyone hear me? :-\18:45
kieferNope :)18:45
MegiddoOkay, I've had problems with freenet not sending my messages before... just checking18:46
Daisuke_IdoMegiddo: if no one's answering, chances are no one knows *right now*18:46
DuEzZzIeRwhat do you wanna know?18:46
Megiddofreenode*18:46
BluesKajwoddf2, pastebin your  /boot/grub/menu.lst18:46
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MegiddoI want to know more about 64-bit kubuntu. Can it run any 32-bit app in a compatibility mode?18:46
MegiddoIs it worth using if I plan on using wine for windows games?18:46
SlimeyPeteMegiddo: it is able to run 32-bit apps in a 32-bit chroot, I think.18:46
SlimeyPetethough I've never tried it myself.18:47
mefisto__BluesKaj: did you mean /etc/fstab ?18:47
MegiddoDoes it lose performance emulating 32-bit?18:47
Daisuke_IdoMegiddo: what makes you think you need the 64 bit version?18:47
MegiddoI like new things :)18:47
SlimeyPeteMegiddo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457518:47
BluesKajno mefisto__18:47
Daisuke_IdoMegiddo: then prepare for breakage18:47
MegiddoThanks SlimeyPete18:48
Daisuke_Idomost things work perfectly and have 64-bit versions18:48
woddf2http://pastebin.com/m6565a5718:48
DuEzZzIeRthe graphics are fine just not a lot of games made18:48
woddf2BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m6565a5718:48
Daisuke_Idothe few that don't, yes you can run them in a 32-bit chroot18:48
MegiddoHow about wine DuEzZzIeR? Would it be pointless to run wine under a 64-bit version?18:48
kieferROFL, Sorry for this off topic-ness, but my room-mate just informed me he spent last night downloading a 1.3gb torrent of simpsons episodes, that turned out to actually be 17 albums by a guy named 'yellowman'18:48
woddf2GRUB can boot it fine, though...18:48
DuEzZzIeRno18:48
DuEzZzIeRit would be ok for some things18:49
Daisuke_Idokiefer: discussion of piracy, stuff like htat around here is pretty much a no-no.18:49
DuEzZzIeRi'm not a pirate but have played pirate games18:50
DuEzZzIeRhahahaha18:50
BluesKajwoddf2, your grub menu looks fine ...what happens when you try to boot into windows ?18:50
woddf2It works fine.18:50
woddf2I just can't mount it in Kubuntu.18:50
DuEzZzIeRit's defualting ?18:50
mefisto__BluesKaj: he can't mount his windows partition18:50
BluesKajok ,wod18:51
kieferDaisuke_Ido: Theres a reason I dont download pirated files, 1) They are usually infected with nasty things, and 2) they are usually albums by yellowman, lmao.18:51
DuEzZzIeRpress ctrl f418:51
BluesKaj!NTFS | woddf218:51
ubotuwoddf2: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE18:51
DuEzZzIeR:)18:51
DuEzZzIeRduring boot18:51
DuEzZzIeRgives a menu18:51
DuEzZzIeRu can figuer it out18:52
DuEzZzIeRkde right?18:52
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DuEzZzIeR...kewl18:53
DuEzZzIeRim know as infinitesadness18:53
DuEzZzIeRIS:(18:53
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DuEzZzIeRch.218:54
DuEzZzIeR <email address hidden>18:55
kieferOkay guys, I'm off to bed - its 5:30am Lolll, Nighty night fellow Linuxers :))18:56
DuEzZzIeRbye18:56
DuEzZzIeRdown to 3 smokes:(18:56
mefisto__go buy some more18:57
woddf2When I try to mount /dev/hda1 to /media/hda1, it tells me that it is not in /etc/fstab, but when I look at /etc/fstab, it is clearly there!18:57
DuEzZzIeR...later maybe18:58
DuEzZzIeRdown to 3 more dingers18:58
DuEzZzIeR:(18:58
DuEzZzIeRalright i'll go have fun18:59
ignoramushi all... having a problem with mplayer.  I've installed (and re-installed) about 10 times now, but its still not recognized in Firefox (as shown in "about:config") and web sites still prompt me to download it... what gives?18:59
DuEzZzIeRbye18:59
ignoramusAdept shows mplayer, mplayer-plugin, and kmplayer are all installed18:59
ignoramus*i meant in "about:plugins".  soz19:00
DuEzZzIeRuse adept19:00
mefisto__ignoramus: have you restarted firefox after installing mplayer-plugin?19:00
DuEzZzIeRits easy19:00
ignoramusmefisto__: yup a bunch of times19:00
ignoramusits not showing in .mozilla > plugins either :(19:01
mefisto__look in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins19:01
DuEzZzIeRfind them?//19:01
ignoramuskk hang on19:01
DuEzZzIeRi really leaving19:02
DuEzZzIeRreally19:02
ignoramusmefisto__:  it has java, flash, vlc, but no mplayer...19:02
DuEzZzIeRdoes   anyone play tribal wars?19:02
DreadKnightcan somebody help me compile the latest wacom driver ? please :(19:02
mefisto__how about /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ?19:02
DuEzZzIeRwhat wacom sounds familuer19:03
DreadKnightDuEzZzIeR: ?19:03
DreadKnightthe graphic tablet :P19:04
ignoramusmefisto__: same deal: helix, java, flash, no mplayer19:04
DuEzZzIeRi wanna be an tracktor operator19:04
ignoramusmefisto__: i've installed via Adept, didn't work, i've installed from sources (no errors) and still no joy :/19:05
ignoramusi just want to be able to view Divx streaming files... is there another plugin?19:05
ignoramusvlc pretty much handles everything else19:05
mefisto__there's a xine plugin19:05
ignoramusfor divx?19:05
DuEzZzIeRif it's a windows program won't work w/out wine19:06
mefisto__I'm not sure if it plays divx19:06
DuEzZzIeRdownload wine19:06
DuEzZzIeRfirst19:06
DuEzZzIeRmount w/ wine19:06
ignoramusduezzzler: i have wine, but i really want to stay away from using Windows programs... (its not the "ubuntu way" ;)19:06
DuEzZzIeRif for windows19:06
DuEzZzIeRlol i agree19:07
DuEzZzIeRjust trying to help19:07
ignoramusduezzzler: i still have a small windows partition that i use for photoshop, syncing my WM5 phone, etc, but I'm really trying to reduce my dependence on windows19:07
ignoramusthanks for trying to help, though :)19:08
ignoramusoh, and my Rosetta Stone language lessons :)  Other than that, i rarely use windows19:08
DuEzZzIeRif it's partitioned it should have nothing to do with your linux installation19:08
ignoramusDuEzZzIeR: no, it doesn't ... i'm just saying if i want to use windows programs, i'll boot into windows.  but i like ubuntu better :)19:09
DuEzZzIeRi use it to but don't tell anyone19:09
ignoramushaha :)19:09
ignoramusso anyone have any ideas why mplayer is showing as installed (per Adept), but no entries in any "plugins" folders???19:10
mefisto__ignoramus: maybe try uninstalling/reinstalling mplayer-plugin with apt-get, see if you get any errors when it installs19:10
DuEzZzIeRyou deleted the plugin19:11
ignoramusmefisto__: what about the one i installed from source? will it remove that one as well?19:11
DuEzZzIeRdel tree19:11
ignoramusDuEzZzIeR:  huh?19:11
mefisto__ignoramus: I don't know. anyone else know?19:12
DuEzZzIeRkubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-powerpc.manifest19:13
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cvaignoramus: make unistall, from the source directory19:14
cvas/unistall/uninstall19:14
ignoramuscva: ohhh... that's good to know - i was just doing a "ctrl+f" for anything with "mplayer" and deleting manually (doh!)19:14
cap601During the installation process I mistyped the computer name.  How can I change it?19:14
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DuEzZzIeRformat19:15
DuEzZzIeRreinstall19:15
cvacap601: the name is stored in /etc/hostname19:16
DuEzZzIeRur admin19:16
DuEzZzIeRuser profile19:16
ignoramuscap601: i think you can change it in System Settings > Network Settings > Change name associated with 127.0.0.119:17
DuEzZzIeRyep19:17
ignoramus*make that "127.0.1.1"19:18
ignoramus127.0.0.1 will always be "localhost19:18
cap601That appears to have worked, thanks19:19
theunixgeekIf I use GParted to partition a disk with *buntu Linux, will my Linux partition still be bootable?19:20
ignoramustheunixgeek: should be, but you'll probably have to fix your GRUB to reflect the changes19:22
ignoramustheunixgeek: and so long as you don't touch your existing root and swap partitions19:23
unagianyone know if a tv tuner will work with windows on a vm?19:27
usuarihola!19:27
SlimeyPeteunagi: fairly unlikely, I'd have thought.19:29
ignoramusunagi: why would you want to do that?  I'm asking because there is probably a better way...19:29
GSF1200S__anyone have any issues with compiz cutting off the right side of titlebars when using kwin as the window manager19:29
GSF1200S__?19:29
unagibecause, even though it would be windows on a vm, im trying to get rid of any reason to dual boot with windows19:30
unagiignoramus:19:30
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Cepkoaloha mates19:31
unagimahalo cepko19:31
ignoramusunagi: just keep a small partition - many of us do.... what is wrong with that?19:32
unagi..........you may enjoy restarting your pc...............i dont19:32
mefisto__I like to hear the beep when it restarts19:32
unagii dont like waking up on a saturday getting out my laptop and going 'hrm, what do i want to do, do i want to watch tv.............or do i want to browse the internet, or do i want to work on more animations'19:32
ignoramusunagi: well, there are plenty of ways you can use tv tuners in ubuntu, have you looked into any of those???19:32
unagiignoramus: yup19:33
cvaunagi: why not use your tv tuner card within linux? mythtv works great.19:33
ignoramusand nothing?19:33
ignoramusyeah, mythtv is what is was thinking of...19:33
Cepkocan i please have help installing kubuntu 7.10? I already have installed windows on first partition, then there is second unformated partition cca 30GB big that i want to have kubuntu on and 3th and 4th partition with data.im at step 4 from 6 atm and have no idea what to choose19:33
unagimythtv doesnt work for me, and its ugly19:33
unagii just wish there was something of media center quality for linux19:34
cvaugly? There are various themes for it. Usability is excellent. I've run it for years.19:34
adrock358Hey fellas.  Anyone know any progs to convert video to ipod video format?19:34
ignoramusunagi: you're not the only one... mythtv is the best linux has atm, but keep looking and you might find something else you like.19:34
unagidoesnt change the fact that it works for me19:34
unagier19:34
unagidoesnt work19:34
unagigod im tired19:34
cvawhat card do you have?19:35
Cepkoanyone? :-/19:35
adrock358unagi get some sleep19:35
unagihp analogue/digital expresscard19:35
ignoramuscepko: in your case, i would use "Guided" method19:35
kadamI just installed Linux on a second drive, but it boots straight into Windows on the original drive.  I saw it install GRUB, but it didn't ask me where I'd like GRUB to be installed; I presume it placed it on the secondary drive.  How can I resolve this?19:35
yao_ziyuancurrently, if i select Chinese as system language in kubuntu, can it automatically make chinese input methods available on the desktop?19:35
Cepkowont it somehow damage my windows instalation?19:35
yao_ziyuanlike in Ubuntu, a "Enable Input of Complex Scripts"19:35
Cepkoand there are 3 guided options19:36
ignoramuskadam: why don't you set the windows drive as a slave, and let the linux drive (with GRUB) decide what to boot?19:36
adrock358any know where I can look to get a prog for ipod video?19:36
Tarosgoogle?19:36
NickPrestaadrock358, http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Convert. You can use mplayer to convert video for the ipod. (Replace ./mplayer.exe with just mplayer)19:36
adrock358you rock nickpresta19:36
martijn81Cepko: choose manual and install grub boot manager in the MBR19:36
adrock358nickpresta.  thanx19:37
kadamignoramus: I'm not sure how I can do that.  I guess I can set the primary boot device as the secondary drive.  But I can't do master/slave;my primary drive is SATA RAID0, and my secondary drive is SATA... I didn't think those had M/S relationships...19:37
NickPrestaadrock358, of course, there is no promise that will work but it is worth a shot19:37
Cepkomartijn81: ok so here i go :)19:37
TarosI'm trying to install 7.10 from a live CD, however, it gets stuck on the install stage when it tries to detect and load the module for 'usb-storage'.  Is there some way around this issue?19:37
adrock358nickpresta.  mplayer for linux or for windows19:38
adrock358?19:38
TarosOr does that stage of the install just take a particularly long time?19:38
martijn81Cepko: keep sda1 free though19:38
Cepkono root file system defined. please corect this form the partitioning mnu :-/19:38
martijn81as in do not install there19:38
Cepkowhen i select the unpartitioned space19:38
ignoramuskadam: yeah, you're right :( I don't know how to do master/slave with SATA... what if you physically switch the drives?? I really don't know... sorry.19:38
adrock358taros.  how long does it get stuck for man?19:38
slow-motionre19:38
TarosA good while.19:39
TarosLike, 15+ minutes.19:39
martijn81Cepko: probably need sda2 selected there, you should be able to check this with cfdisk19:39
adrock358ouch.  Taros.  You;ve got a problem there.  You may have a problem with your usb ports.  What sys are you running?19:39
TarosOh dear.19:39
NickPrestaadrock358, mplayer for linux. Although that site says you're using mplayer for windows, the options and such should work the same in Linux.19:40
TarosAn Acer Aspire 5670 with duo core Centrinos.19:40
kadamignoramus: I can't switch them, they're ondifferent controllers, and one's RAID 8)  Oh well,thank you for you idea :) I'll still try the boot priority thing...19:40
adrock358Nickpresta.  great man.  I'm sure it will work19:40
adrock358Thank you19:40
jaguilerahi ppl, i know it's not kubuntu's fault, but any hint on when will we have flash working on konqueror again?19:40
adrock358taros, 64 or 32 bit?19:40
Taros32.19:40
ignoramustaros: can you disable USB temporarily in BIOS?19:41
TarosIt's kind of ancient.  :(19:41
TarosOh, good deal.19:41
NickPrestajaguilera, when it is fixed, it will be fixed. There is no timeline for the fix, as far as I know. There is a 'hacky' workaround, though, if you _need_ flash now.19:41
adrock358taros.  you should be all set bro.  one thing, you have to do it, check the validity of the cd after you have downloaded it, AND before you install it.  YOu follow?19:41
TarosYeah, I did that.19:41
jaguileraNickPresta: it's not like "needing", I just don't really likefirefox19:41
sigma16can i get mailserver help here since no 1 is talking in dovecot19:42
adrock358taros?  dual core ancient?  Heck no.  i have a p4.19:42
adrock358taros.  and it all checked out?19:42
TarosOh man, I'm sorry.19:42
sigma16adrock358: single is obsolete19:42
TarosUm, one sec.19:42
adrock358sigma16, oh no.  why don't you go back to eating cheezy poofs and watching South Park, will you?19:42
Taros*ROTFL*19:43
martijn81Cepko: do you get it along?19:43
ignoramustaros: ??19:43
Cepkomartijn81: nope :)19:43
TarosOne second, getting work done.19:43
Cepkomartijn81: i PMed you but now i see its blocked :)19:43
adrock358taros, so it all checked out?19:43
Cepkomartijn81: i have there:19:44
Cepkoguided - resize SCSI5 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use freed space19:44
Cepkopodtym mam ze new partition size a scroler19:44
Cepkopotom je tam ze: Guided - use entire disk19:44
Cepkopodtym je SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda) - 320.1GB ATA moj disk19:44
sigma16some 1 help19:44
Cepkopadtym = under that :)19:44
sigma_1234i wish kubuntu could configure as easily as ubuntu19:44
Cepkowas talking to my friend :)19:44
Cepko*podtym19:44
sigma_1234!ask19:44
ubotuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:44
ignoramussigma_1234: it is actually easier... unless you're trolling19:44
TarosI'm looking into it, trying to do a million things at once.  :)19:45
TarosOne second.19:45
martijn81Cepko: you probably need to register for that19:45
bfrogever since upgrading to 7.10 my volume fn- keys aren't working right19:45
bfrogsame with brightness19:45
bfrogany ideas?19:45
Cepkomartijn81: register where pls?19:45
Cepkomartijn81: im new to lin :)19:46
martijn81Cepko: on freeode19:46
martijn81*freenode19:46
adrock358Taros.  you should know bro.  all you do is check the d/l'd file info against the proper file integrity listed on the webserver where you got it.  then, before you run livecd you click "check media."  Did you do this Taros?19:46
sigma_1234ignoramus: try wep encryption. one key can cause such a disaster19:46
Cepkomartijn81: freenode? :)19:47
adrock358well. im me later for my e-mail if you have problems still19:47
TarosYes, I did.19:47
TarosSee ya!19:48
TarosThanks for the help.19:48
martijn81Cepko: try /msg nickserv help19:48
adrock358hmm.  well, best thing in my opinion is back up important data, reformat everything, then install.  you should not have problems.  if you do then, then search the forums.  they have EVERYTHING there.  just have to find the right keyword, and be very, very patient.19:49
adrock358taros see message19:49
Cepkomartijn81: thx19:49
sigma16adrock358: i thought u wer tellin me to reformat for a sec lolz...19:50
TarosYeah, hahah, I did back up everything.19:50
sigma_1234im surprised knetworkmanager cant handle wireless19:50
TarosThat's what I was trying to do, was a brand new install.19:50
sigma16sigma_1234: it can...19:50
X9nLinuxXI was just about to ask if there was a 'forum'... then realized the question should be 'where' more than if... so where is it?19:50
ignoramussigma_1233: are there any problems in particular you need help with, or did you just come in to complain?19:50
adrock358taros. wow.  idk.  forums.19:50
TarosYeah, cool, thanks.19:50
sigma_1234nope i found the solution. just wish someone would fix the gui. suppose i should file a bug19:52
martijn81Cepko: otherwise, use !pastbin19:52
Flare183!pastebin19:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:52
ignoramussigma_1234: what was the problem?19:52
martijn81Cepko: i always choose manual19:52
sigma_1234oh does anyone know why lg dvd writers can't burn multisession disks in k3b? it keeps saying incremental streaming not available.19:53
NickPrestasigma_1234, I thought I read about this before but I think multi-session burning hasn't been written yet19:53
martijn81Cepko: just ask if you're not sure, i'll try to get you from there19:53
sigma_1234it wouldnt accept the wep key for some reason even if i entered it properly. i had to issue a konsole command to force it19:54
ignoramussigma_1234: does k3b give you the override option to burn multisession anyway?19:55
sigma_1234NickPresta: worked in the sony drive on my dell laptop though :(19:55
d0uglashi.. i want to get my clock synced to the UN or whatever with ntp. Do i want openntpd? wouldn't that be just to act as a server for other people?19:55
NickPrestasigma_1234, hmm. I don't know what to tell you =(19:56
sigma_1234nope no overide. just says it can't do it19:56
ignoramussigma_1234: nerolinux should get the job done, and it's free if you already own a windows license....19:56
d0uglasoh wait ntpdate19:56
sigma_1234its free. really?19:56
SlimeyPeted0uglas: openntpd I think19:57
ignoramussigma_1234: if you already have a windows copy with a valid license, yes :)19:57
ignoramussigma_1234: of course, there are probably other ways to obtain it, but that would be wrong19:58
sigma_1234i have the oem one that came with the lg writer. does that count? it has a key19:58
sigma_1234lol19:59
ignoramussigma_1234: maybe! look here > http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-linux3-update.php19:59
sigma_1234i wanted to stay opensource though!19:59
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ignoramussigma_1234: imho, nero is the best burning app made *prepares for flames*19:59
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* kadam cries for installing Linux over his document drive...20:00
SlimeyPeteheh, classic.20:00
* ignoramus does really stupid things sometimes, too :(20:00
kadamhehheh, yeah, nothing to do but laugh about it...20:01
ignoramuslemonade, my friend20:01
kadamOh well, on the plus side, I have KDE on my primary machine 8)20:01
kadamignoramus: hehe, yeah...20:02
sigma_1234kadam: what happened to it?20:02
kadamOh, I had to reinstall like 3 times, and the last time, I just selected the wrong drive...20:02
unagibfrog20:03
bfrog?20:03
sigma_1234backup:) . the magic linux word20:03
kadamI was going off the sizes, and just moved all my docs off the 160G to the 200G, but before, I had Linux on the 200G, so... I should have made some coffee before starting...20:04
kadamsigma_1234: That's the poopy part of it; I DID back it up, so I could rewrite over the original tho... I only have so many drives! hehe...20:04
kubuntu_can someone help me?20:04
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vhozardi need help with a program called glc20:05
vhozardwhen i trie to compile it gives an error:20:05
vhozardinfo  : Building glc...20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:22:17: fout: png.h: Bestand of map bestaat niet20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c: In functie ‘img_write_png’:20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:225: fout: ‘png_structp’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:225: fout: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:225: fout: for each function it appears in.)20:06
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:225: fout: expected ‘;’ before ‘png_ptr’20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:226: fout: ‘png_infop’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:226: fout: expected ‘;’ before ‘info_ptr’20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:227: fout: ‘png_bytep’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:227: fout: ‘row_pointers’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
ignoramusvhozard: !pastebin20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:236: fout: ‘png_ptr’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:236: fout: ‘PNG_LIBPNG_VER_STRING’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:237: fout: ‘png_voidp’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:238: fout: ‘info_ptr’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
sigma_1234!paste20:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:241: fout: ‘PNG_COLOR_TYPE_RGB’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:242: fout: ‘PNG_INTERLACE_NONE’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:242: fout: ‘PNG_COMPRESSION_TYPE_DEFAULT’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:243: fout: ‘PNG_FILTER_TYPE_DEFAULT’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:07
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:245: fout: expected expression before ‘)’ token20:08
vhozardsrc/export/img.c:251: fout: ‘PNG_TRANSFORM_IDENTITY’ undeclared (first use in this function)20:08
vhozardmake: *** [build/img.o] Fout 120:08
vhozarderror : Can't compile glc20:08
vhozardhowto get it working?20:08
vhozardoh, ok20:08
ignoramusvhozard: for the love of god! !paste20:08
sigma_1234lol20:08
vhozardand now, i went to paste.ubuntu-nl.org20:08
vhozardwhat to do?20:08
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sigma_1234!paste20:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:09
vhozard!paste 5452320:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste 54523 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:09
SlimeyPetevhozard: past the text there, then save it and it will store on the server, then give us the url20:09
vhozardhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54523/20:09
vhozardsorry didnt know yet20:09
vhozardbut what to do? i cant compile the program glc20:10
vhozardi installed all needed packages through apt-get, but it doesn't work20:10
sigma_1234is it not in the repo's?20:11
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sigma_1234!info glc20:11
ubotuPackage glc does not exist in gutsy20:11
vhozardits not in the repos20:11
sigma_1234ok clearly not20:11
vhozardits a utility similiar to FRAPS (recording gameplay)20:12
sigma_1234whats it used for?20:12
vhozardhttp://nullkey.ath.cx/projects/glc/20:12
vhozardcan someone help me?, plz20:13
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sigma_1234did you check at getdeb.net?20:13
vhozardyes20:14
vhozardcant find20:14
olivhello world20:15
vhozardsigma, can you help?20:15
yao_ziyuancan Hardy Alpha 4 support chinese now?20:15
NickPrestayao_ziyuan, ask in #ubuntu+1. They can help you with Hardy questions20:16
olivwhere can i get old fashened xnmap?20:17
NickPrestavhozard, did you install "build-essential libx11-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libasound2-dev"? Did you run the build script?20:17
vhozardyes and yes20:17
olivwhere can i get old fashened xnmap?20:17
vhozardit gives that error in the buildscript20:18
NickPrestavhozard, and that pastebin were the errors you were getting?20:18
vhozardyes20:18
vhozardmaybe you dont understand because i use dutch kubuntu, fout = error20:19
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NickPrestavhozard, try installing: libpng12-dev20:19
vhozardok20:19
__-osh-__Anyone who can help with this? It's on a HardyHeron. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54506/20:19
NickPresta!hardy | __-osh-__20:20
ubotu__-osh-__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu20:20
olivi am a very handsome guy, thing is i am waiting for my wife at the airport and she hasn't shown up yet. What do i do? she happens to be invisible. Can anyone help?20:20
vhozardit worked!!! thanks20:20
NickPrestavhozard, email the author of that application and tell him he needs to update the depends.20:20
vhozardit's fine now, thank you!20:20
vhozardyes, i will tell him20:20
NickPrestavhozard, okay. :)20:20
vhozardthank you20:20
vhozardxD20:20
vhozardbye20:20
NickPrestaoliv, you can take that problem to #kubuntu-offtopic. Maybe you can get help there20:21
olivsweet thanks for the help20:22
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flipmodeI have a hp deskjet 5440 and i cant get it to work am running kubuntu 7.1020:26
shaggy71875hello20:27
shaggy71875trying to set up linuxmce20:28
flipmodeI have a hp deskjet 5440 and i cant get it to work am running kubuntu 7.1020:28
shaggy71875http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ will these drivers work for kunbuntu?20:28
shaggy71875im such a linux noob20:28
jussi01!mint20:29
ubotuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate20:29
shaggy71875 and im also trying to get my magnavox 42mf230a plasma to work via the rs232 port20:29
shaggy71875#linuxmce20:30
thewhitepelicanI see hardy is at alpha 420:35
thewhitepelicanway cool20:35
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ctexGuys I am running Ubuntu but with the KDE desktop environment. Is there a way to update the KDE to 4.0?20:38
flipstarhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php20:39
ctexHow would I remove KDE 3?20:41
sayersIs there a WYSIWYG Webediter for KDE or atleast linux?20:42
SlimeyPeteyou can't, without removing all of the kubuntu desktop, ctex.20:42
NickPrestactex, KDE 4.0 is still considered unstable by some. I would suggest that you keep KDE 3 in case KDE 4.0 breaks on you or doesn't do what you want20:42
SlimeyPetectex: you could install ubuntu-desktop instead and then install kde420:42
SlimeyPetethat would probably work.20:42
claydohsayers: Kompozer is wysiwyg html editor20:43
claydohother thanusing Openoffice20:43
ctexThat's what I am doing. Uninstalling kubuntu-desktop would be a pain, I haven't just installed the core packages unfortunately :(20:43
NickPrestasayers, at the risk of being unpopular, I would say drop the WYSIWYG editor. You can write far better HTML and CSS without it.20:43
sayersNickPresta: and you are not popular to me now20:44
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claydohwell you have to learn somewhere, and wysiwyg is a good start20:44
sayersI'm a server admin not a web yes20:44
claydohplus lompozer is pretty basic, as is the code generated20:45
NickPrestasayers, aww. But seriously, no WYSIWYG editor writes semantic AND standards compliant HTML/CSS. If you're going to use that and then modify the output to be semantic and such, you might as well write it by hand.20:45
adrock358totally random question guys, a shot in the dark.  can you get textbook torrents?20:45
adrock358or get them free on the next any way?20:46
NickPrestasayers, in that case, you should delegate the task to someone meant to write HTML documents :P I suppose if you must, there is Kompozer and NVU.20:46
yzaLyzarCHello20:47
flipstarhi20:48
yzaLyzarCKan I make kdm/kde autologout people?20:48
adrock358yzaLyzarC i don't know bro.  i'm too new\20:48
yzaLyzarCOk20:49
flipstaryou want kde to log out people ?20:49
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NickPrestayzaLyzarC, I know you can use `skill` to halt a user and to kill and logout a user.20:49
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yzaLyzarCAutomagiacaly?20:51
NickPrestayzaLyzarC, to halt a user named 'nick', you could do: `sudo skill -STOP -u nick`20:52
NickPrestayzaLyzarC, to kill and log me out, `sudo skill -KILL -u nick`20:52
* Daisuke_Ido grumbles about amarok20:54
NickPrestaDaisuke_Ido, what about it?20:54
Daisuke_IdoAudio output unavailable; the device is busy20:55
NickPrestaDaisuke_Ido, try restart xine/audio engine in System Settings or kill the offending process which is using your audio.20:57
yzaLyzarCBut that makes me have to make me kick them manually, I'm lazy!20:57
Daisuke_Idoi'm not using kde, system settings isn't an option :)20:57
Daisuke_Idobut i see what you mean20:58
tashiro_My nmap is running very slooow even with the "-T4" option enabled________ help20:58
Daisuke_Idoi know there's a command to check to see what processes are using /dev/dsp20:58
NickPrestayzaLyzarC, can you write a GUI frontend to `skill` if you want. :) Or put it on a cronjob if it happens at the same time everyday20:59
yzaLyzarCIt is random users, ho forgett to log out, then the other users cant log in because it is locked.20:59
batis610can i have desktop effects under kde or i have to install gnome?20:59
yzaLyzarCSo I need it automagicaly do it21:00
g2g591batis610: of course you can have it under kde21:00
NickPrestaDaisuke_Ido, try `ps faux`21:00
flipstartashiro_: maybe the host itself is slow ? our you using different scan techniques like -sS and -sV at the same time ..21:00
NickPrestayzaLyzarC, you could just write a script that checked for any users who forgot to logout and then log them out. Put that on a cronjob to run every minute or something21:00
adrock358Hey I have a question.  I'm using Pidgin.  How do I connect to another server cient?21:01
flipstar!compiz | batis61021:01
g2g591batis610: just install compiz-kde and simple-ccsm and compizconfig-settings-manager21:01
ubotubatis610: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:01
yzaLyzarCI only write php/javascript, and is pretty sure this funktion exsist21:01
batis610thks.. i'll try that21:01
flipstaradrock358: what do you mean connecting to another server client ?21:02
adrock358like another network21:02
Daisuke_Idostill nada21:02
adrock358flipstar read message21:03
flipstaryou can select the protocoll when you create account adrock35821:03
flipstarlike icq msn yahoo and so on21:04
adrock358only for a limited few flipstar21:04
flipstari've like 13 choises..21:04
adrock358flipstar, dude there are thousands of networks21:05
flipstarneed an different protocoll then listed there ?21:05
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flipstaruhm i think i dont get it21:05
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adrock358there's networks from all around the work.  some from russia, some from china....IRC ubuntu is only one network, with a limited list of channels.  Other servers have other channels.21:06
adrock358flipstar read message21:06
flipstarwe still talking about pidgin ?21:07
adrock358flipstar do some reading bro21:07
g2g591adrock358: are you talking about irc? (the protocal that we are talking on now)21:08
g2g591adrock358: i think pidgin has support for irc ( and other protocals) and of course it doesn't just support this server21:09
puikahttp://lostworlds.lv/go.php?113963749321:09
flipstaras far as i know pidgin does not support irc21:10
kadamFrom the GRUB prompt, how  can I add a new option for an existing device and OS ?21:11
kadamflipstar: It does21:11
flipstarhow ?21:11
mkquistpidgin does support irc21:11
mkquistbtw21:11
adrock358g2g591 all i'm saying is how do i log onto another network21:11
kadamflipstar: Not sure, prolly something the developers implemented...21:11
flipstardamn youre right21:11
adrock358flipstar.  yeah it definitly does21:12
giguigoed avond allemaal!!!!21:12
flipstaradrock358: you can select it when you create that account21:12
g2g591adrock358: i don't know, i don't use pidgin ( or kopete)21:12
flipstarthere you can select the server21:12
adrock358g2g591 can you log onto another network using a different client?21:12
adrock358g2g591 i want to log onto undernet21:12
g2g591adrock358: look at flibstar's post21:13
mkquistadrock358: are you trying for two networks at once?21:13
mkquistlike using one client here and another for another network?21:13
giguidoes any one now how to install in kubunto21:14
adrock358g2g591 yeah only a limited few.  can't input a name of a network.  my question is: i want to log onto the undernet network, then join a channel.  how do i do that?21:14
flipstarlet me check that21:14
giguii just kan't install nathing in kubuntu.... why?21:15
adrock358gigui "kan't"  come on...21:15
mkquistgigui: what specifically are u trying to do?21:15
adrock358gigui.  english....english21:15
g2g591adrock358: well, i use konversation, so on the server list that appears when you start, you would hit new , then put in the server name (like irc.freenode.net) then add chanels you want to automaticly join21:16
mkquistadrock358: when you join just type /join #whatever channel21:16
giguisinds last weke i,m trying to install ftd4linux and other software ,nuthing works21:16
mkquistadrock358: is that it?21:17
stunatragigui, it works if you do it right.21:17
flipstarhm cant get it working for now (irc in pidgin)21:17
giguihouw i folllow the readme file and using the terminal21:17
stunatraPidgin for IRC? Ew21:17
mkquistflipstar: irc works in pidgin, justed tried it again to be sure....21:18
unagihow do i search for files with kubuntu21:18
SlimeyPete!find21:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:18
SlimeyPeteheh21:19
adrock358g2g591.  thanks a lot for the response bro.  i really appreciate that.  I'm using Xchat now, I ahve the undernet network selected, but anyway, it keeps disconnecting me saying connection reset by peer. any advice?  Thank you.21:19
SlimeyPeteunagi: you can use "find" or "locate" from the command line, or install strigi... I don't know how to do it in the file browser21:19
scott_can some help me i keep getting Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". when i run glxgears21:19
unagistrigi doesnt make sense to me21:19
adrock358mkquist.  no server, not channel21:19
mkquistadrock358: you mean how do you pick a server?21:20
pacmanstupid question, and I should know better21:20
flipstaradrock358: you choosed a server at account creating ?21:20
pacmanI plugged in another hard drive into my motherboard21:20
pacmanhow do I search for it so I can mount it21:20
flipstartest sudo fdisk -l21:21
Daisuke_Idofdisk -l21:21
pacmanthank you21:21
DreadKnightwhat file do i have to edit to disable the kde4 effects? i've activated them and i don't see anything in my kde4 session21:21
adrock358mkquist.  you gotta do some reading man.  server.  irc is type of chat.  ubuntu, or freenode i think it's called, is a server.  aim another server...icq...there are lots....21:21
giguihow to install firefox ....21:21
pacmanhmm, that's only showing my external hd21:21
flipstaradrock358: youre wrong these are protocolls ..21:21
adrock358g2g591 you there?21:21
Daisuke_Idoadrock358: it would be better if you got your terms right.  irc is a protocol21:21
mkquistadrock358: i understand that all that, just not quite what ur having problems with...21:22
flipstarthen check /var/log/messages while you plug it in pacman21:22
mkquistadrock358: and Daisuke_Ido is correct.. =p21:22
DreadKnightgigui: was that a question?21:22
pacmanI'm not familiar with that, flip21:22
adrock358why are you guys not understanding?  if you don't get it, you won't.  so best to move on from the topic.21:22
Daisuke_Idowe understand you don't know how to phrase your question, but that's about it21:23
flipstarjust use plug it in and do a cat /var/log/messages in the konsole pacman21:23
giguikan anyone help mi with this in kubuntu.....21:23
giguiconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables21:23
giguiSee `config.log' for more details.21:23
flipstarerr this sentence make no sense21:23
mkquistadrock358: you wanna log onto freenode, or whatever, just set it up in accounts, you want a channel once your on that server, then just /join... simple21:23
mkquistno more then...21:24
pacmanthat was a really long group of messages21:24
flipstargigui: install build-essentials21:24
flipstarjust check the last lines..21:24
unagihold down the power button for 4 seconds........thats how i connect21:24
kalorindoes anyone know of a google IM type app for linux?21:25
Daisuke_Idopidgin will do it21:25
unagi!aim21:25
giguiwhere kan i find it?21:25
ubotuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim21:25
flipstarin adept_manaer gigui21:25
Daisuke_Idoi'm guessing.  since gtalk is jabber21:25
flipstar*manager21:25
unagiblah kopete is stupid!21:25
unagi=(21:25
kalorinkopete keeps dropping yahoo over and voer21:25
kalorinnot much fun21:25
kalorinit's ok, but just not really stable21:26
unagiok tip for the day.........do not use find / file............it takes forever =)21:26
unagikopete wont open for me21:26
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DreadKnightyou meant kopete-kde4?21:26
ChasI want to install real playeron my new kubuntu - can someone please tell me how to do this?21:26
flipstarkalorin: piding for e.g supports google talk21:26
kalorink21:26
kalorinthanks21:26
unagikopete-kde4?21:26
pacmanhey flip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54530/21:27
flipstarChas: real-player is proprietary you really want to do this ?21:27
unagirealplayer?21:28
flipstarpacman: your drive is on /dev/sdc121:28
unagilol real media still exists?21:28
giguibuild-essentails ...is that the real name just kan't find it!!!!!21:28
flipstarwithout 's21:28
flipstarsry21:28
kalorinwow21:28
kalorindigikam has always been pretty solid for me until today21:28
SlimeyPetegigui: build-essential21:28
kalorinnow it starts up and just goes into lala land21:28
flipstarmaybe there few typos in gigui21:28
Chasflipstar: ok then if not realplayer then what about flashplayer?21:29
scott_can someone help me with this error 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'21:29
pacmanmount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/disk busy21:29
pacmanmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/disk21:29
flipstarChas: helix-player supports the real format21:30
unagii love virtual machines21:30
unagitheyre so cool21:30
flipstarpacman: this pastebin is just after you plugged the device in ?21:30
Chasflipstar: ok thanks I'll try that21:30
pacmanyes21:30
pacmanit was already plugged in when I booted up....should I unplug it and plug it in again?21:31
giguiflipstar ... thanks i found it installing nouw21:31
pacmanand does it matter which SATA port I plug into?21:31
flipstarno..21:31
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pacmanthat HD has an older version of Kubuntu on it...I thought I burned it up, but I need some files off of it if I can somehow recover them21:32
flipstaryes you could try to unplug it and plug it again in..then check the messages21:32
sveriscott_: you need to install a driver which supports 3d21:32
sveriscott_: which graphic card do u use?21:32
Chasflipstar: can't find helix-player in adept21:33
g2g591Chas: manager or add/remove , if you can't find in add/remove look in manager21:33
pacmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54533/21:34
flipstarChas: you have the multiverse repository enabled ?21:34
flipstaruhm thats all pacman..theres no drive location..21:35
mefisto__helix-player is in universe, isn't it?21:35
flipstarit still isnt listed via fdisk ?21:35
flipstarright21:35
DreadKnightwhat file do i have to edit to disable the kde4 effects? i've activated them and i don't see anything in my kde4 session21:35
pacmanno, it only shows my external HD21:36
giguiflipstar ???  just doesn't work alweis the same anser???  C can't do executbles21:36
giguiwhi??21:37
flipstar!compile > gigui21:37
pacmanI'm lying, flip21:38
pacmannow I'm showing more HD's after I logged in as sudo bash21:38
pacmanflip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54535/21:40
Chasflipstar: helix-player not found anywhere21:40
flipstarin universe repository it is ..21:40
flipstar!info helix-player < Chas21:41
ubotuhelix-player (source: helix-player): the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (gutsy), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)21:41
Chasflipstar: as far as I know multiverse repository is not enabled - how do I do that?21:41
SlimeyPete!repos21:41
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu21:41
flipstar*universe Chas21:41
SlimeyPete!universe21:42
flipstarright pacman than just pick that one that is your backup drive and mount it ;)21:42
pacmanit won't let me mount21:42
flipstardid that sudo before ?21:42
pacmanyes21:42
flipstarpacman just try sudo mkdir /media/backup ;sudo mount /dev/sdb /media backup                  i just suggest /dev/sdb is your backup drive..corret it with the right one21:45
kadamMight anyone know why I'm getting a blank screen with nothing but "Starting Up" when I try to start Windows from GRUB?21:45
flipstarhow did you installed grub ?21:46
pacmanflip:  on the second command, it says to select filesystem type21:47
kadamflipstar: It installed automatically to the drive I installed Linux to, and in my BIOS I set it to boot to that drive first... Then I manually added the Windows drive/partition21:47
pacmanerr, specify filesystem type21:47
flipstarisnt it ext3 ? pacman21:47
pacmanyes21:47
backatchais there a torrent for the lastest i386 version of Kubuntu?21:47
backatchacd not dvd21:47
enrygood night21:48
flipstartorrent.ubuntu.com backatcha21:48
backatchaonly seeing the dvd21:48
flipstarwith latest you mean gutsy ?21:49
backatchayea21:49
backatchai think i found21:49
backatchaunder simple right?21:49
flipstarhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/21:50
backatchaok21:50
Kostmayergutsy didn't work that well on mine, gave up on ubuntu after that21:50
backatchaoh yea?21:50
backatchawhat did you go with21:50
Kostmayerjust put 7.04 back on it on a whim after reading it works better21:50
Kostmayershould have read up first really, theres know issues with 7:10 and me laptop :)21:51
unagiim trying to install a deb that i downloaded from virtualbox.org and im getting         trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko                      ', which is also in package virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic21:51
flipstarpacman what about sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /media/backup  ?21:51
unagiwhat does that mean21:51
backatchahas anybody ran vmware server on linux to run windows xp seamlessly?21:51
flatsanyone here familiar with the "ultimate" edition?  All I need to know is will it Install Ubuntu or do I have to install the 7.1 version first, then run the ultimate dvd?21:51
unagibackatcha: define seamless21:52
g2g591unagi: it means you cant have virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic and that virtualbox deb installed at the same time21:52
backatchait shows the only the app your running instead of the the virtual machine21:52
pacmanflip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54537/21:52
kadamCan I have GRUB on one drive, and still boot Windows from another drive?21:52
unagiI sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-ose.........do i have to do more?21:53
g2g591kadam: yep21:53
g2g591unagi: i don't think so21:53
kadamg2g591: Might you have any thoughts why I'm freezing at "Starting Up..." when I try to boot Windows?21:53
unagiwhat else can i do21:54
pacmanbecause it's Windows?21:54
unagikadam: because windows blows21:54
pacmanbeat you to it, unagi21:54
unagiblah21:54
unagiim too focused on my vbox problem21:54
pacmanI need to access this other drive...it has my 2006 taxes on it and I need it for school21:55
backatchahttp://www.linux.com/feature/12490821:55
backatchathats what i want to do21:55
danopia`meep21:55
danopiaopps21:55
danopiasry21:55
unagihow do you completely remove a package with apt-get21:55
backatchais there a image program other then gimp for linux that is good as photoshop?21:55
g2g591kadam: if windows is on the second drive, (eg sdb , hdb) it won't boot, google on how to fix it21:55
unagibackatcha: no21:56
emilsedghsudo apt-get remove --purge PackageName21:56
unagibackatcha: just run photoshop with wine21:56
g2g591unagi: sudo apt-get purge ...21:56
backatchacan you run napster in wine too?21:56
unagii dont know21:56
unagii dont pay for music21:56
backatchalol me either just the wife21:56
kadamg2g591: Okay, thanks!21:57
unagiugh i dont get it.........if virtual box isnt installed why do i get that error21:57
g2g591unagi: sudo apt-get purge virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic21:57
flatsNo ubuntu ultimate users?  bummer21:57
flipstarpacman: does sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l work ?21:58
pacmanyes21:59
pacmanyou want me to pastebin it?21:59
unagiwhats the point of ubuntu ultimate21:59
flatsIt's Ubuntu with all the extra software preinstalled so I don't have to spend 2 days downloading all the things I may need22:00
unagiyou spend 10 removing crap you dont22:00
unagimakes sense22:01
flatsdisc space isn't an issue, I just ahte everytime I try to install something I have 5 other dependencies that I need and the simple install now takes an hour22:01
flipstarno .. pacman .. is it listed as LINUX ?22:02
mkquistultimate just looks like a really bloated version22:02
MaskedOneI have a color oriented problem, anyone wanna help?22:02
pacmanyes22:02
unagiyup22:02
pacmanI have 4 hard drives plugged in right now, flip22:02
unagiim an animator..........disk space is always an issue22:02
mkquistunagi: lol22:02
pacmanI'm a pornoholic....disk space is always an issue22:02
flatshehe nice22:02
MaskedOneHow do i change the window background color in Konq?22:03
mkquistflats: so if u want ultimate, why not just install it?22:03
flipstarpacman: i dont know why it dont mount partition table seems okay..maybe fsck will help you trough this ..22:04
flatsWell I'm dl'ing now but I don't have my original kubuntu install cd.  I'm not sure if I have to install kubuntu first or if the ultimate is the whole bootable OS22:04
pacmanI tried to boot from that drive, but it wouldn't let me22:04
unagi??22:04
mkquistflats- its the whole shegang22:04
flatsIf not I have to re dl kubuntu22:04
unagiwhat else would it be22:04
mkquistlol shebang*22:04
flatsI wasn't sure if it was just a b unch of add on's.  I couldn't find any thing that really described if it's the OS or not22:05
mkquistflats: but its ubuntu, not kubuntu i believe22:05
sauloHELLO22:05
mkquistsaulo: HELLO22:05
flats1.7 has both, I Kubunut and an Ubuntu version22:05
saulobrasilian22:05
sigma16i sthere a way to make my numpad work?22:06
saulotem algum brasileiro22:06
flatsand as soon as I say that I just found out I picked the Ubuntu version...Darnit22:06
mkquistsigma16: NumLock on?22:06
flatsOh well22:06
mkquistflats: lmao, sorry but thats funny22:06
no0ticsaulo, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br22:06
sigma16mkquist: numlock doesnt affect it22:06
sigma16mkquist: if its on/off it still dont work22:06
flatsAHhh I think I can just install the KDE after wards22:07
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flatsAnd now I'm installing software again.....Never ends22:07
flipstarpacman: whats the message during boot ? i would try fsck anyway22:08
pacmanflip:  it starts to boot up, but I can't remember what the error message is22:13
sigma16can any 1 help me with my keypad problem?22:14
rysiek|plguys, I need to disable rich text in kopete22:16
rysiek|pldo I need to do it per contact?22:16
rysiek|plgrep Enable kopeterc | grep Rich | wc -l -> this gives me... 43 lines22:16
mefisto__sigma16: is it a laptop?22:20
flipstarbtw which irc client you recommend ?22:23
flipstarkonversation isn great at all..22:23
jpatrickflipstar: irssi22:23
flipstarthanks22:23
mefisto__rysiek|pl: in configure>appearance>formatting overrides "do not show user specified rich text"  Is that what you want?22:23
flipstardamn this here is an console client ..22:26
jpatrickflipstar: welcome to real irc22:26
flipstari rather mean an graphical one..22:26
rysiek|plmefisto__: uhm... I can't find it in my kopete22:26
pacmanany other ideas for me, flip?22:26
jpatrick!clients22:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:26
jpatrick!irc22:26
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines22:26
flipstardid you used fsck pacman ?22:26
rysiek|plmefisto__: what version are you running? I'm on 0.12.722:26
pacmanyes22:26
mefisto__rysiek|pl: in the "colours and fonts" tab22:27
flipstaruhm at least konsole-kde4 allow to copy urls ..22:27
rysiek|plmefisto__: I don't seem to have anything like that (although I am running a Polish version here)22:27
rysiek|plmefisto__: gimme a sec22:28
flipstarsorry pacman than im out of ideas..22:28
jpatrickflipstar: you can click iirc22:28
rysiek|ploh ffs22:29
jpatrick!ohmy | rysiek|pl22:29
uboturysiek|pl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:29
pacmanwonder what would happen if I unplugged all my HD except sdb1 and boot from disk22:29
rysiek|ploops22:29
flipstari'll give KvIRC a try..22:29
rysiek|pljpatrick: that was "oh for friend's sake" ;)22:29
unagikde looks so nice even with composite extensions turned off22:30
rysiek|plmefisto__: the only similar checkboxes I have are: "Do not show user-selected background color"; "Do not show user-selected font color" and "Do not show user-selected formatted text color"22:31
pacmanflip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54542/22:32
rysiek|plmefisto__: although those are translated adlib from Polish now so they might be a wee bit different in original english translation22:32
unagiwhy is the package manager telling me only one can be open at a time when only one is open22:32
rysiek|plmefisto__: would you be so kind and make a screenhsot of the settings window, with this option highlighted?22:32
mefisto__rysiek|pl: the last one, in my english version is "do not show user specified rich text"22:33
flipstardid it correct something pacman ?22:33
flipstarif yes you might try now..22:33
pacmannot that I can tell, although it says it did22:33
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rysiek|plmefisto__: I have got it selected and it doesn't work :/22:34
kadamIs there a kde4 package in the default repos now, or should I do it the way I did it Jan. 11th?22:34
pacmanI tried to sudo mount /dev/sdb1 and that's not working22:34
flipstarsame message ?22:35
pacmanmount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab22:35
flipstargreat than fsck fixed your drive :)22:35
flipstarnow you just have to add it in fstab22:35
pacmanand how do I do that again?22:36
unagiOnly one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time,  Please close the other application e.g. 'Update Manager', 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first................can someone help me troublshoot why im getting this (implying obviously that i dont have more than one package manager going)22:36
mefisto__rysiek|pl: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/iconmefisto/kopete.png22:36
flipstarbtw i think i'll stay at Konversation..22:37
rysiek|plmefisto__: great, thanks22:37
rysiek|plmefisto__: it doesn't work here, though22:37
rysiek|plmefisto__: ah, nvm. sed -i -r -e 's/EnableRichText=true/EnableRichText=false/' kopeterc does the job nicely22:38
pacmanhey flip, does this mean I should be able to boot into that drive now?22:40
pacmanhey flip, does this mean I should be able to boot into that drive now?22:40
flipstarright, as soon as you added an entry in fstab22:41
pacmanthat drive has it's own fstab22:41
pacmando I still need to update the fstab on this drive?22:42
flipstaris this fstab entry correct ?22:42
flipstarremember you tried to mount into /media/backup ..22:43
pacman<===lost22:43
pacmanI haven't done anything to fstab22:43
flipstarjust show me that fstab then ..22:43
piotr_Jest tu moze ktos z Polaków do pomocy lamerowi  ;> ?22:44
flipstar!pl > piotr_22:45
pacmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54546/22:45
flipstarthere is no entry for the sdb ..22:47
pacmanI'm not familiar with editing the fstab22:47
flipstarwhich partition you want to mount ? sdb1 sdb2 or sdb3 or..?22:48
pacmanwhichever22:48
pacmanwhatever makes it work22:48
flipstarfor sdb1.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54548/22:50
pacmancopy/paste that to my fstab?22:50
pacmanreplace my current fstab with that?22:50
flipstaryes replace it22:51
flipstari just added an line22:51
pacmanokay, it's up22:57
pacmanwill I be able to boot from there?22:57
flipstarhm boot from /media/backup ? no22:57
flipstarbut you'll able to boot from that drive22:57
pacmansdb1?22:57
flipstaryes just select it from bios like you did prevously ..22:58
pacman*nods*22:58
pacmansweet, thank you22:58
flipmodehow do i enable wma support in k3b?22:59
g2g591flipmode: do you have win32codecs installed?23:00
g2g591flipmode: if not, install kubuntu restricted extras (multiverse repository) , then run kbuildsyscoca then check if it does23:01
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flipmodeg2g591: i do have restricted extras installed but how do i get win32codecs?23:02
g2g591flipmode: if you have restricted extras, it depends on win32codecs and a bunch of other stuff. so i don't know how to help i guess23:03
flipstar!win32codecs > flipmode23:03
mefisto__I think it's w32codecs23:05
flipstarworks both :)23:05
OODanyone here somewhat technically knowledgable about hard drive mounting? I have a hard drive (/dev/sdb1), except the actualy /dev/sdb1 file in dev does not exist23:06
flipstar /dev is a fake dir anyway23:07
flipstartry sudo fdisk -l OOD23:07
OODflipstar: yeah I've done that, it reports the second hard drive as /dev/sdb123:08
flipstarand sudo /dev/sdb1 -l ?23:08
flipstarwait23:08
flipstarsudo fdisk /dev/sdb1 -l23:08
OODi get no output23:09
flipstarodd23:10
OODflipstar: this problem just appeared randomly one day23:11
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gameplayerhello23:15
epimethahoy23:15
epimethsoooo... virtualbox, or vmware?23:16
BluesKajdualboot23:16
gameplayeri've got a problem withe kaffeine : when i try to play a video, the player freezes 4- 5 seconds, then the sound start to play and the image is black, and then the player crashes23:16
gameplayeranyone has an idea how to solve this problem ?23:17
epimethBluesKaj: yes.  besides that.  virtualbox or vmware?23:17
BluesKajneither , both are a PITA and lotta apps won't run properly, espedially online stuff23:18
epimethgameplayer: is this for any video or just a specific one you are trying?23:18
g2g591epimeth: virtualbox is fine, online stuff worked fine here23:19
gameplayerany video23:19
epimethBluesKaj: PITA?23:19
BluesKajwell, epimeth , that's just my experience23:19
BluesKajPain In The A**23:19
epimethright :-)23:19
epimethI remember using vmware back a few years ago... had to install a special kernel and everything23:20
epimethg2g591: you prefer virtualbox?23:20
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g2g591epimeth: i do, partially becasue in order to use vmware (server) you have to register and some other stuff. and virtualbox works pretty well23:21
tillzhello?23:22
g2g591epimeth: vmware is just a pita  to set up , and virtualbox just works23:22
tillzdoes anybody speaks german here?23:22
epimethg2g591: does it need special hardware or does it work anywhere?  cuz I can't use kvm because my processor is incompatable23:22
BluesKaj!de | tillz23:22
ubotutillz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:22
tyson_anyone know if there is a way to move the document tabs from the bottom of the window to the top in quanta?23:22
tillzahh ty23:22
g2g591epimeth: it doesn't need special hardware23:22
epimethgreat23:23
epimethcheers23:23
gameplayerepimeth: any idea for my problem ?23:23
epimethgameplayer: seems like a decoder problem.  try reinstalling your codecs23:24
gameplayerafter reinstalling, may i have to reboot ?23:24
gameplayer(or just restart X ?)23:24
BluesKajrestart X23:25
epimethgameplayer: shouldn't have to be, but thats always an option you might want to try23:25
gameplayerk23:25
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gameplayeri'll try then, thank you23:25
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epimeth!quicken23:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quicken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:38
epimethquicken replacement?23:39
SlimeyPetegnucash?23:39
epimethSlimeyPete: I prefer things that start with a "k" than with a "g" :-)  Isn't there KMoney or something?  apt-get doesn't recognize it23:40
jbrcksHello, I just installed kubuntu 7.10 and the entries for application names in Kmenu are displayed incorrectly.  For example, Konversation is displayed as '_:Entries in Kmenu: Konversation app name, ...'.  Anyone know why this is or how to correct it?23:40
SlimeyPetedunno, tbh - I don't tend to use such things.23:40
epimethjbrcks: not a clue, sorry... never heard of something like that23:40
woddf2Hello23:42
randallhi23:42
gameplayerepimeth: it seems that it's xine that is broken for my problem : when using mplayer, it works without any problems23:42
woddf2My empty CD drive will not stop trying to read, and when I try to use the command line (CTRL+ALT+F1/F2/F3/F5/F5/F6), I see some device error!23:42
BluesKajjbrcks, I mentioned this before , once you use the applications with the odd names and titles they wil have the proper names after you open your next session .23:43
woddf2It keeps scrolling the error message repeatedly!23:43
woddf2device-mapper: table: [...] Device lookup failed23:43
woddf2I see [...] device-mapper: table: [...] Device lookup failed23:43
woddf2My empty CD drive will not stop trying to read, and when I try to use the command line (CTRL+ALT+F1/F2/F3/F5/F5/F6), I see some device error!23:44
BluesKaj!patience | woddf223:45
ubotuwoddf2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:45
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woddf2Uninstalling evms fixed it!23:48
woddf2Thanks23:48
woddf2Goodbye23:48
jbrcksBluesKaj: Thanks for the advice, however, I tried that and it didnt seem to work.  Thought someone else may have another suggestion.23:48
BluesKajhave you rebooted , jbrcks ?23:48
jbrcksyes23:49
epimethgameplayer.  all right... I couldn't help you anyway... I just know that it is probably a codec problem :-)  good luck23:53
gameplayerok, thank you23:54

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