[00:00] <iceman_> thanks
[00:00] <NickPresta> unagi_, alternately, open up Konqueror and type: man:mencoder
[00:06] <unagi_> my god
[00:06] <unagi_> lole
[00:06] <unagi_> its -mf type=jpg not mf=type=jpg
[00:07] <[ka]killer> hey
[00:07] <[ka]killer> was wondering how i change the default file browser from dolphin back to konquor
[00:07] <tekteen> !dolphin
[00:07] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:08] <[ka]killer> thanks
[00:08] <tekteen> np
[00:08] <FaiDillinGer> does anyone know how can i make the num.lock active at loginscreen ??
[00:08] <mefisto__> FaiDillinGer: system settings> keyboard and mouse
[00:09] <FaiDillinGer> thx mefisto__
[00:11] <FaiDillinGer> does anyone know how can i make the window key pop up the kmenu ??
[00:15] <NickPresta> FaiDillinGer, I forget how to make it accept just the Win key but you can easily bind the KMenu to the Win key plus another key.
[00:16] <flipstar> FaiDillinGer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/panel.html#id2552734
[00:17] <NickPresta> ah, they removed the ability to just set the Win key unless you remap the Win key..
[00:19] <FaiDillinGer> thx
[00:27] <intelikey> is it possable to get an .xpm to execute code ?    splash screen for example ?
[00:35] <intelikey> #kubuntu is dead.     long live #kubuntu!
[00:36] <tekteen> lol
[00:37] <achilles> i forgot the name of a html editing program it completes tags for you anyone know the name? thanks
[00:38] <intelikey> quanta ?
[00:38] <intelikey> i forgot too.
[00:38] <achilles> no it had html something
[00:38] <achilles> but thanks
[00:38] <achilles> the icon was a face of a guy screaming
[00:39] <intelikey> screem ?
[00:39] <achilles> let me check
[00:39] <intelikey> screem - A GNOME website development environment
[00:40] <achilles> yes!!!! thank you much:)
[00:40] <intelikey> welcome.
[00:40] <intelikey> kdevelop3 - An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version    if you like "ide"'s
[00:41] <achilles> thanks ill take a look later;)
[00:45] <achilles> intelikey is kubuntu the same as ubuntu but with kde?
[00:45] <intelikey> yep
[00:45] <achilles> ok:) I was using ubuntu but i could never get my dailup working but with kubuntu i could because of kppp:)
[00:46] <intelikey> interesting.   wvdial should have worked for either install
[00:47] <intelikey> in fact i can get wvdial to work on systems that kppp fails on....
[00:47] <achilles> :O
[00:47] <achilles> it never worked for me:(
[00:47] <intelikey>           some         ^
[00:48] <achilles> for some reason kppp always works for me
[00:48] <bohemio> aluien de chile
[00:48] <intelikey> !cl
[00:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <intelikey> what language is that ?
[00:49] <intelikey> !pr
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <vzduch> !es
[00:49] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:50] <intelikey> !br
[00:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[00:50] <vzduch> there was a g missing to make 'alguien'
[00:50] <intelikey> ah.
[00:50] <romunov> i'm having problems with my kubuntu. i once put my machine to hybernate, but open restart it never woke up
[00:50] <achilles> oh lol ok :)
[00:50] <achilles> now i understand:)
[00:50] <romunov> i could only login via the command line and startx
[00:51] <romunov> but i don't have shutdown or any other commands now
[00:51] <romunov> i can't switch users either
[00:51] <romunov> other than going to the command promp and switching users
[00:51] <intelikey> romunov kdm messed up again ?
[00:51] <achilles> how do i make firefox my defualt browser ? i dont wont kconqurer:P
[00:52] <Taggnostr> achilles, in the firefox options?
[00:52] <achilles> for the system
[00:52] <draik> I received a RAR file with a password. I have the password, but how do I use it to let me extract the RAR's content?
[00:52] <Taggnostr> there should be a button "make firefox my default browser" or something similar
[00:53] <achilles> ok ill try
[00:53] <intelikey> achilles well you could change the alternative /usr/bin/x-www-browser     ether via the gui  "kcontrol i think"  or the cli update-alternatives i think
[00:53] <intelikey> or edit by hand.   or....    (probably a long list goes here)
[00:54] <flipstar> draik: just use unrar e <filename> you'll be asked later for passwd or for a gui.. use file-roller or similar
[00:54] <draik> flipstar: Thanks
[00:59] <flipstar> bye im out
[00:59] <achilles> thanks everyone bye:)
[01:01] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[01:04] <intelikey> woops what do you do when update-alternatives --all  does this to you http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5fd476ac ???
[01:05] <jereme> unagi_: iphoto? ;)
[01:05] <unagi_> .....?
[01:07] <replman> Hi! I have a problem watching video on my system. Each time i open mythtv, mplayer, ..., X11 crashes, nvidia-screen pops up and then the login of kde is shown. This worked already some weeks ago
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> the obvious question is: what's changed between then and now?
[01:08] <Daisuke-Ido> have you perhaps gone to one of the compositing window managers?  are you using kde 3 or 4?
[01:09] <mefisto__> I can't seem to get my login screen resolution to change. it's always 1024x768, but after login it is (sort of) correctly set to 1280x1024, although fonts and icons are too large. If I log out and in again, the login screen is 1280x1024, and after login the fonts and icons are the right size.
[01:09] <replman> I don't know. Each time the kubuntu update-manager shows that an update is available i do the update
[01:09] <replman> maybe some weeks ago x11 was also in the update, but i'm not sure
[01:10] <replman> i use kde3
[01:10] <replman> 3.5.6
[01:10] <FaiDillinGer> yo . i have an external usb drive with an ext3 filesystem on it.  the hardrive is always plugged to the computer. i use as a mount point /media/disk, but when i reboot and browse to /media/disk, no files appear. i have to mount it. how can i make it mounted automaticcaly please ??
[01:10] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: are you using a custom kdm theme?
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> !automount | FaiDillinGer
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !fstab | FaiDillinGer
[01:11] <ubotu> FaiDillinGer: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <intelikey> mefisto__ you may not like my sujestion.  but, try gdm.
[01:11] <intelikey> i'm not a gnome'r but gdm beats kdm hands down  imo
[01:11] <Daisuke-Ido> replman: other question still up in the air - are you using compiz or beryl?
[01:11] <replman> Daisuke-Ido: no
[01:12] <mefisto__> intelikey: you mean just for login? or give up on kde?
[01:12] <intelikey> just the login
[01:12] <FaiDillinGer> thx Dr_willis but the auto option is already set ??
[01:12] <FaiDillinGer> UUID=86c76468-f081-4e88-a068-8d60c04d96c4 /media/disk auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[01:13] <intelikey> mefisto__ it's as simple to try as   sudo apt-get install gdm      and just as easy to undo.
[01:13] <mefisto__> intelikey: I like that very much actually. I have xfce installed so gdm is there. how do I make gdm the login?
[01:13] <replman> I'm going to try starting a plain X11 without kde (xinit) and try to play something there. I'll be back and reporting
[01:13] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:13] <intelikey> mefisto__ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:14] <mefisto__> and how do I undo that if it doesn't work out? reconfigure kdm?
[01:14] <intelikey> ok quick draw.  i'll go back to playing with a script kiddy, seeing that i'm not needed here  ;/
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> mefisto__: change gdm to kdm
[01:14] <Daisuke-Ido> intelikey: nah, i'm actually going to play some dumb games :)
[01:14] <intelikey> no no. it's all yours.
[01:14] <mefisto__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, right?
[01:15] <intelikey> yes
[01:15] <intelikey> mefisto__ reconfiguring any of the ?dm family will give you the menu to choose which you want to use.
[01:15] <mefisto__> Daisuke-Ido: how would I change themes? do you mean the login theme?
[01:20] <Daisuke-Ido> not entirely sure when it comes to gdm
[01:20] <mefisto__> and for kdm?
[01:20] <WorkingOnWise> does amarok work with there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos
[01:20] <WorkingOnWise> oopsss...
[01:20] <intelikey> hehhe
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> I mwant......
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise>  there's a theme manager for gdm in the repos
[01:21] <intelikey> i resemble that remark WorkingOnWise
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> wow....I'm just gona step slowly afk....
[01:21] <WorkingOnWise> :)
[01:21] <intelikey> :)
[01:22] <WorkingOnWise> ties this "windows" keyboard...
[01:22] <WorkingOnWise> it keeps moving the keys on me....
[01:22] <intelikey> you would be surprised how many times i have started to hit [enter] and realized that i had changed topics in the middle of my post...
[01:23] <WorkingOnWise> lol..u too?
[01:23] <intelikey> as i said <intelikey> i resemble that remark WorkingOnWise
[01:23] <WorkingOnWise> lol
[01:23] <draik> Not sure how or why, but all of my GRUB options have been removed. How do I get them back? All I have is Memtest86+
[01:24] <WorkingOnWise> so, i know I have apache something installed...how can I tell if it's 1.x or 2.x?
[01:24] <intelikey> update-grub   maybe ?
[01:24] <draik> intelikey: Where?
[01:24] <intelikey> httpd --version ?
[01:24] <intelikey> guessing.
[01:24] <intelikey> draik cli
[01:24] <draik> I can get a GRUB> command line, but that's it.
[01:24] <mefisto__> I think sudo update-grub will do it
[01:25] <WorkingOnWise> lol...good guess but nope....
[01:25] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise ok.  dpkg -l | grep apache
[01:25] <draik> intelikey: mefisto__: It says "Unrecognized command"
[01:25] <mefisto__> oh, you can't boot without an entry in grub
[01:26] <draik> mefisto__: Right. How do I get it back?
[01:26] <replman>   Hi!
[01:26] <WorkingOnWise> intelikey: or http://localhost:8080  :)
[01:26] <intelikey> draik ah you mean you can't boot.   you need to tell it the root (hd0,0)    kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1    initrd /initrd.img    boot
[01:27] <draik> intelikey: Ok. How?
[01:27] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise that will only display the home page you have installed.  not always the correct page for the server.
[01:28] <intelikey> draik just as i listed them.  ^    1.  root       2. kernel       3. initrd        4. boot     you only need to know the disk address   (hd?,?)   and the root=
[01:29] <intelikey> draik and grub provides tab completion as well
[01:29] <mefisto__> draik: the "e" key lets you edit when you're in the grub menu, so just edit memtest entry, replace with what intelikey said
[01:30] <mefisto__> then update-grub once you've booted properly
[01:30] <intelikey> mefisto__ well what i said was for the grub prompt   but yes that will work too
[01:30] <draik> 10-4
[01:30] <intelikey> mefisto__ i.e.   "c"  rather than "e"
[01:31] <sloop> howdy folks -looking for some help with my brand spanking new kde4 grub file
[01:31] <mefisto__> "c" edits in the grub menu?
[01:31] <intelikey> WorkingOnWise if you change/edit your home page  then it's not updated with apache  iirc.   that's why i mentioned that.  ^
[01:32] <intelikey> mefisto__ no.  "c"  gives you the grub command line.  "grub prompt"
[01:32] <sloop> installed kde4 from the live cd but didnt right to the grub menu ..now i cant boot into that partition
[01:32] <intelikey> mefisto__ from the menu ^  yes.
[01:33] <sloop> I 'e"dit my grub lines but I don't have a clue as to the uuid nonses
[01:33] <intelikey> sloop it's the hour for grub.    fire away
[01:33] <sloop> lol thanks itelikey
[01:33] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[01:33] <intelikey> sloop ok uuid is the file system idintifier.   from the running linux system  you can use  blkid   to list yours.
[01:34] <kadam> On a scale of 1-10, what are the odds that I can dual boot kubuntu on a drive that already has Windows on it?  What if it's a RAID 0 array?
[01:34] <unagi_> kadam its preferred that you have windows on the drive first
[01:34] <draik> intelikey: mefisto__: Nope. It still went to Memtest :(
[01:35] <intelikey> draik then you entered something incorrectly.    keep trying or boot a live CD and fix from there.
[01:35] <mefisto__> sorry draik, listen to intelikey, it should be more straightforward using the grub prompt
[01:35] <replman> I tried it (playing video) without kde (plain xinit) - the same result (X11 crashes). I put the log to http://www.pastebin.org/17821
[01:35] <kadam> unagi_: Ahh, good... Am I in for an ordeal, you think?  Or is installing to a raid array rather straightforward?
[01:35] <sloop> Ah ha! thank you intelikey
[01:35] <draik> SGD to the rescue, I guess
[01:35] <unagi_> lol replmanthat darn signal 11
[01:35] <intelikey> sloop :/
[01:35] <unagi_> replman:
[01:36]  * draik 's day goes from bad to worse :(
[01:36] <unagi_> i dont know anything about raid kadam i just know the best thing to do is install windows first
[01:37] <replman> unagi_: do you know what i can do?
[01:37] <intelikey> draik actually i think everyone should manually boot their system with grub and lilo   at least one time each.   that way you are never afraid of the boot loader again.    but i will admit it is formitable when first incountered.
[01:37] <unagi_> lol no replman i just know that maya use to give me signal 11 (unknown signal) when i used the graph editor and it sucked
[01:38] <replman> That's very annoying. When i browse to a website which loads a video (mplayer-plugin), the complete kde crashes
[01:38] <intelikey> !kde4
[01:38] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:38] <draik> intelikey: While this is the first time this has happened, it's the 2nd time I was locked out. The first incident added 3 other users. This time it removed GRUB :(
[01:39] <intelikey> draik understood.    and may i say i sympothize, over "too much automatic ####!" in ubuntu.
[01:41] <intelikey> all it takes is one cron job doing something with the boot loader or for some the gui, and it fail.   leaves a dark brown taste in your mouth about the whole os.
[01:42] <intelikey> automatic updates give linux a bad name.    imo
[01:43] <draik> intelikey: What would happen if I copy a very similar install's /boot/grub/menu.lst file to this laptop which just ate it?
[01:44] <intelikey> welcome back mefisto__, you timed it just right.    "missed my rant"   :)
[01:44] <mefisto__> rant about?
[01:44] <intelikey> draik if the disk/partitions and kernel version are the same it will work.  if not, you'll have basicly the same mess to contend with.
[01:45] <intelikey> mefisto__ don't ask.      automatic crap breaking things.
[01:45] <draik> intelikey: They are the same. Just didn't know if there was anything in particular with could not be used.
[01:46] <intelikey> draik shouldn't be.   but i think it would be easy enough to fix from a live CD    do you have one ?
[01:46] <draik> intelikey: Yes. Booting at this time.
[01:46] <intelikey> k   i'll walk you through it.
[01:46] <mefisto__> intelikey: gdm login was the same 1024x768 resolution. any other suggestions?
[01:46] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I'm in.
[01:47] <intelikey> mefisto__ it's adjustable.     not sure about the gui thingy  but i edit by hand /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:47] <intelikey> draik is the root fs of the installed system mounted ?
[01:47] <draik> intelikey: Nope. I just loaded the LiveCD of 7.10
[01:48] <intelikey> ok.   open a terminal   and do   cat /proc/partitions ;mount
[01:49] <intelikey> draik find your installed fs's root partition (assuming you use a partition)   and look at the output of the mount command to make sure it's not already mounted.   then mount it on /mnt
[01:50] <intelikey> if you need more specific help on things just say so.
[01:53] <intelikey> draik still with me ?
[01:54] <sloop> -thanks intelikey fixed my grub but kde4 doesnt see my atheros card
[01:54] <shinda_> hey anyone familiar with mkvextract tools?
[01:55] <intelikey> !kde4 | sloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.
[01:55] <ubotu> sloop best i can do with kde4 is point you to the other room. sorry.: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:55] <sloop> sweet - thx
[01:55] <intelikey> np
[01:56] <snarkster> YAH!!! i got a sexond interview with a law firm..
[01:57] <intelikey> shinda_ if you ask more specific questions you are more likely to get a responce.    if you specify the issue you are having, including any error messages; you are even more likely to get help.
[01:57] <snarkster> second even
[01:57] <draik> intelikey: Sorry, got a phone call. Took a while to get connection back on my network. (Don't ask)
[01:57] <intelikey> snarkster frauidian slip ?
[01:57] <phoenixz> My adept manager crashed and I can't start it anymore, its saying something about database which is locked.. How can I fix this?
[01:58] <snarkster> no im happy.. I know its OT..
[01:58] <snarkster> !adept
[01:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:58] <phoenixz> !aptfix
[01:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:58] <shinda_> sorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?
[01:59] <snarkster> i took flv and converted to mpg for use on a psp
[01:59] <snarkster> Use convert it
[01:59] <snarkster> its in the repos
[01:59] <draik> intelikey: I'm using the whole HDD.
[01:59] <draik> intelikey: How do I check?
[01:59] <intelikey> draik ok.  mount it
[01:59] <shinda_> yea, don't want to convert anything since that'll involve having to wait for the videos to transcode and that will take 12+ hours which I really don't want to do
[02:00] <stunatra> What's a good partitioner/formatter for Kubuntu?
[02:00] <intelikey> draik oh sorry.     sudo fdisk -l
[02:00] <snarkster> then what are you asking about?
[02:00] <snarkster> according to what you just asked:
[02:00] <snarkster> sorry, basically I want to remux an mkv to a vob, and I realize that it requires mkvtools and mp4box, but not sure about the actual use, I want to remux video so I can play it on my ps3, anyone have any experience doing this?
[02:01] <snarkster> sounds like you are converting.. isnt remuxing the same as converting?
[02:01] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:01] <shinda_> no, remuxing is just changing the headers and containers without changing the  content
[02:01] <snarkster> ah
[02:01] <intelikey> draik that will show disks and partitions if any.    then if it's not mounted.   "use the mount command without arguments to check";  mount it on /mnt thus   sudo mount /dev/hda /mnt   < example only
[02:01] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[02:01] <snarkster> so google remoxing mkv to mpg
[02:02] <snarkster> remuxing even
[02:02] <snarkster> make a gif out of the jpg sequences and then convert to mov
[02:02] <shinda_> ya, most the guides are all windows specific using windows apps that do it for you, I've found one guide but was wondering if anyone had any other experience with it, to maybe save some time
[02:02] <snarkster> ah.. good on you..
[02:02] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:02] <unagi_> stunatra: gparted
[02:02] <snarkster> I have no experience with such things other than converting it directly
[02:03] <stunatra> thanks unagi_
[02:03] <intelikey> clue/4     google.com/linux   then search.
[02:03] <intelikey> draik ok    sudo chroot /mnt
[02:04] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:04] <intelikey> draik mount none /proc -t proc
[02:04] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:04] <intelikey> draik update-grub
[02:05] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:05] <intelikey> draik lets test it,     grub
[02:05] <intelikey> draik you should have now a grub prompt
[02:05] <intelikey> ?
[02:05] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:06] <intelikey> draik    root (hd0)     < again assuming no partition  if you have one partition change to    root (hd0,0)
[02:06] <intelikey> if it's not the first hd  then change acordingly
[02:07] <sloop> shhhhuuuuuuuuccckkkksss it;s quiet in kubunut-kDE4 ..like a funeral home
[02:07] <intelikey> you have that ?    it should return the    fs type   ?
[02:07] <draik> intelikey: Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[02:08] <draik> intelikey: root (hd0,0)
[02:08] <intelikey> draik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?
[02:09] <intelikey> it was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt
[02:10] <intelikey> draik ?
[02:10] <intelikey> DRAIK !
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm he's gone.....
[02:12] <intelikey> hope he doesn't panic in the middle of that....
[02:12] <phoenixz> j/joinn #windows
[02:12] <phoenixz> I DIDNT WRITE THAT!!
[02:12] <intelikey> of course not.
[02:12] <intelikey> :)
[02:12] <intelikey> wb.
[02:13] <unagi_> stunatra: gparted
[02:13] <phoenixz> Im just demoing IRC to a windows user.. really...
[02:13] <unagi_> oops
[02:13] <unagi_> anyone know how to convert a sequence of .jpg to a .mov
[02:13] <intelikey> draik ok,  what did you type to mount the fs ?  it was    sudo mount /dev/<what?> /mnt
[02:13] <snarkster> unagi i guess you didnt like my suggestion
[02:13] <phoenixz> unagi_, IIRC, there is a utility in apt-get that can do that... at least images to movie.. then you can convert the movie to .mov..
[02:14] <phoenixz> unagi_, problem is that I forgot the names of those :P
[02:14] <unagi_> hrm
[02:15] <sigma16> where can i get mailserver setup help
[02:17]  * draik swears at the cordless phone
[02:17] <sigma16> ?????????????????/
[02:17] <draik> intelikey: Sorry, got another phone call. It was actually important, too.
[02:17] <intelikey> draik ok.  you back with me now?
[02:17] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:17] <draik> Ok
[02:17] <draik> How do I find out the partition?
[02:17] <intelikey> ok you still at the grub prompt ?
[02:17] <Daisuke-Ido> sigma16: a long string of question marks is unlikely to make you any friends
[02:17] <draik> sda1 is Linux
[02:18] <draik> sda2 is Extended
[02:18] <draik> sda5 is swap
[02:18] <intelikey> draik ok and are you still looking at the grub prompt ?
[02:18] <sigma16> i need help with setting up a mailserver.... i wqas following a guide on the ubuntu community site and i hit a snag
[02:18] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:18] <intelikey> draik ok type in     quit
[02:18] <draik> intelikey: I'm stuck at the      root (hd0,0)        part of the session
[02:19] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:19] <intelikey> draik now in the chrooted shell.   cat /boot/grub/devic*
[02:19] <Daisuke-Ido> could you possibly be a little more specific?
[02:19] <dazza> hi, i'm having problems with my mouse - it stops responding when typing on the keyboard. this is on a dell inspiron 1520 and it was working fine up until today
[02:19] <draik> intelikey: hd0   /dev/hda
[02:19] <snarkster> did you do any updates?
[02:19] <intelikey> draik should show one line per hdd you have
[02:20] <dazza> uh yeah, it was libprobe i think
[02:20] <intelikey> draik you have only one ?
[02:20] <dazza> got updated this morning
[02:20] <draik> intelikey: yes
[02:20] <sigma16> can some 1 plz help me...
[02:20] <Daisuke-Ido> like, i dunno, a link to the guide you're following, information about what step you hit a snag on, something for us to work with, because as it stands, "i'm following a guide and i hit a snag" tells us diddley-squat.
[02:20] <sigma16> if not show me were i can get help?
[02:20] <dazza> i restarted x, then restarted the whole laptop, then ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:20] <intelikey> draik ok.   now lets check the device node     ls -l /dev/hda1
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: The funny thing is that its under /dev/sda , not hda
[02:21] <intelikey> draik that's ok.  that's scsi emulation used by the live cd
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory
[02:21] <draik> intelikey: Oh, ok.
[02:22] <intelikey> draik ok i want you to run this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[02:23] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:23] <intelikey> draik that will make a static device for the kernel to use in a pinch.
[02:23] <KillerFlamingo> does any one know of a free version or program like VMware that i can use to virtualize Winxp
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !vistualbox | KillerFlamingo
[02:23] <intelikey> draik ok one more thing.     grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vistualbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: you could try virtualbox
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> crud
[02:23] <Daisuke-Ido> !virtualbox | KillerFlamingo
[02:23] <ubotu> KillerFlamingo: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:23] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: vmware itself is also free, but not open source
[02:23] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:24] <KillerFlamingo> vmware wanted $189
[02:24] <Daisuke-Ido> vmware *server* is free (and i believe it has less features)
[02:24] <intelikey> draik if that didn't show anything we have work to do.
[02:24] <draik> intelikey: kernel          /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[02:24] <sly> hi
[02:24] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: not for vmware server edition
[02:24] <dazza> KillerFlamingo: that one is free
[02:24] <draik> intelikey: But it's commented out
[02:25] <dazza> but virtualbox-ose will work as well i think, and it's easier to install :D
[02:25] <draik> intelikey: Nevermind. It's at the bottom. It only has the memtest
[02:25] <KillerFlamingo> ok i'll try them both
[02:25] <sly> !channel
[02:25] <KillerFlamingo> thank you
[02:25] <intelikey> draik ok you still have a problem then.   lets try another avinew
[02:25] <sly> !find channel list
[02:25] <intelikey> draik rm /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:25] <intelikey> or you can move it
[02:25] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:25] <sly> !join
[02:25] <sly> !join channel
[02:26] <draik> intelikey: Removed
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <ubotu> File channel found in dancer-services, doc-iana, epic4-help, epic4-script-hienoa, epic4-script-light (and 8 others)
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <intelikey> draik     mknod /dev/hda b 3 0
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:26] <intelikey> draik grub-install /dev/hda
[02:27] <draik> intelikey: I'm at the GRUB>
[02:27] <intelikey> ?
[02:27] <intelikey> shouldn't be
[02:27] <intelikey> quit
[02:27] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:28] <intelikey> did you put a space in the grub-install command or something ?
[02:28] <intelikey> up arrow to check
[02:28]  * draik is embarrassed
[02:28] <intelikey> thought so
[02:29] <draik> intelikey: Yeah. I removed the space and put grub-install this time
[02:29] <intelikey> ok up arrow and grep the menu.lst again
[02:29] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda1: Not found or not a block device
[02:29] <intelikey> oh we'll make one then.
[02:29] <replman> Hi! I fixed my video-playing-x11-crashing problem. It was a driver problem. I installed the newest nvidia-driver and everything works fine now :-)
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[02:30] <intelikey> draik   mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
[02:30] <intelikey> draik and   mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:30] <draik> intelikey: ok
[02:31] <intelikey> now do the grub-install /dev/sda      command again.
[02:31]  * draik makes sure he types it in correctly this time...
[02:31] <intelikey> i don't like having to fight with scsi emulation,      but we'll get there.
[02:31] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[02:32] <intelikey> hda  my typo this time
[02:32] <snarkster> later folks
[02:32] <intelikey> snarkster
[02:32] <draik> intelikey: /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[02:33] <intelikey> NDPMacBook:    rm /dev/sda1 && ln -s /dev/hda1 /dev/sda1
[02:33] <intelikey> bah. tab completion
[02:33] <intelikey> draik            ^
[02:33] <pocket> how do i find a list of channels?
[02:33] <intelikey> pocket /list  but i advise you to filter it.   it's huge
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey thank you
[02:34] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey how do i filter it?
[02:34] <intelikey> pocket most clients have ways  look in it's menu
[02:34] <pocket> intelikey thanks
[02:35] <intelikey> draik grub-install /dev/hda
[02:35] <intelikey> finish without error ?
[02:35] <draik> somewhat...
[02:35] <intelikey> ok   grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:35] <draik> Searching for GRUB installation directory... found: /boot/grub
[02:36] <draik> The file /boot/grub/state1 not read correctly
[02:36] <intelikey> yes that's not an error.
[02:36] <draik> ok
[02:36] <intelikey> oh my.
[02:36] <intelikey> stage1 not read correctly could be a problem.
[02:36] <draik> intelikey: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[02:37] <intelikey> ok.
[02:37] <intelikey> draik hmmm i'm thinking.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> sounds like some files in /boot got moved/deleted
[02:38] <intelikey> draik two ways to aproach that.   rm /boot/grub -r   and try again   or   enter the grub shell and install from there.
[02:38] <draik> The grub shell seems interesting
[02:38] <intelikey> grub
[02:38] <draik> ok
[02:38] <intelikey> root (hd0,0)
[02:38] <KillerFlamingo> so i have a stupid question about virtual box
[02:39] <draik> intelikey: Ok
[02:39] <intelikey> install (hd0)
[02:39] <KillerFlamingo> do i install generic or server
[02:39] <intelikey> or is it setup (hd0)   ???
[02:39] <intelikey> heh i forgot.
[02:39] <draik> I think it's setup
[02:39] <draik> Either way, I get an error
[02:39] <intelikey> what is it
[02:39] <draik> Error 22: No such partition
[02:40] <intelikey> setup (hd0,0)
[02:41] <draik> Error 22: No such partition
[02:41] <intelikey> Dr_willis what do you make of that ?
[02:42]  * intelikey is thinking by now,  if that was my box i would already have installed lilo and forgoten it.....
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Sounds like hes really broken somthing. :)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> or /boot is on its own partition, and not mounted
[02:43]  * draik would rather work on the Linux box than return to windows
[02:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis no we have been playing in /boot
[02:44] <intelikey> draik dito
[02:44] <Dr_willis> he seems to be missing a  : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis that was the reason for being here.
[02:45] <draik> I only use windows when forced. That being work and other people's computer.
[02:45] <intelikey> it had only one entry  "memtest"   and update-grub didn't add anything
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Makes ya wonder how it vanished. and what other things it took. :) did he have a  /boot/grub/stage1 and stage2 ?
[02:45] <smeril> how do i close a program in the bakround that is stoping me from using any other packet manager
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> whats: find /boot/grub/stage1 tell ya?
[02:45] <intelikey> we rm'd the broken menu.lst
[02:45] <sub[t]rnl> or is that step even necessary
[02:46] <Dr_willis> ls -l /boot/grub/menu* to see if the files even exist, and if they exist. they have actual data in them.
[02:46] <intelikey> draik see sub[t]rnl ^
[02:46] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    512 2008-01-17 13:15 stage1
[02:46] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100948 2008-01-17 13:15 stage2
[02:46] <smeril> ?
[02:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis it doesn't now.  but it did and was useless
[02:46] <intelikey> smeril killall <name>
[02:46] <Dr_willis> smeril,  close the apps with the kill command, or  by closign their interface. depends on what you got running -
[02:47] <intelikey> smeril and if by background you mean you ^Z 'd it,  then fg it
[02:47] <draik> find /boot/grub/strage1 tells me..        (hd0,0)
[02:48]  * Dr_willis is not sure what find is doing :) heh heh..
[02:48] <sub[t]rnl> telling him where to install grub
[02:48] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[02:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis grub's find
[02:48] <Dr_willis> Ok :) that makes more sence
[02:48] <draik> Dr_willis: Nope. Nothing. I only have menu.lst~
[02:49] <intelikey> draik ok.    grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst~  and see if it's usable
[02:49] <intelikey> the ~ means an editor probably made that.
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Yep. Looks like a backed up menu.lst to me.
[02:50] <draik> Nope
[02:50] <draik> It's just the memtest
[02:50] <intelikey> hmmm k
[02:50] <intelikey> then it's worthless
[02:50] <Dr_willis> he does have the proper kernel files? Im trying to figure out wht would of removed all the kernel entries in menu.lst
[02:51] <intelikey> draik ls /lib/modules/ /boot/vmlin*
[02:52] <Romina> hi
[02:52] <sub[t]rnl> theres always the super grub disk, as a last resort
[02:52] <Romina> I am searching for a command,  equal to "emerge world"
[02:52] <sub[t]rnl> apt-get
[02:53] <Romina> there is Kubuntu 7.04 running on this PC,  and I would like to upgrade to 7.10
[02:53] <draik> intelikey: Ok. What do you need/
[02:53] <draik> ?
[02:53] <draik> I have the 2.6.22-14 generic
[02:53] <Romina> without downloading an ISO Image,  burning a bootable CD,   deleting the old system and setting up the new system
[02:53] <Romina> is there any way?
[02:53] <intelikey> only to make sure you see a dir in modules/ and a kernel in /boot
[02:54] <sub[t]rnl> romina: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <intelikey> draik just to make sure that the kernel was still there
[02:54] <draik> ok
[02:54] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, sounds good .... is it risky?
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl,  most packages are from the official repositories,  some aren't
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ I've never ran into a problem
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, example:  d3lphin  is dolphin for kubuntu 7.04
[02:55] <Romina> its a packport
[02:55] <Romina> frostwire is a limewire ... "fork" ...
[02:55] <intelikey> draik lets run the   update-grub    again
[02:55] <Romina> it has been installed as a deb
[02:55] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, will these programs cause problems?
[02:56] <sub[t]rnl> nope
[02:56] <intelikey> draik see if it makes a new menu.lst
[02:56] <Romina> how comes?
[02:56] <intelikey> it is supposed to
[02:56] <draik> intelikey: It asked. I said YES
[02:56] <draik> Seems I only have memtest
[02:56] <Romina> how will dependencies resolved if they are not resolvable?
[02:56] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ run it and see
[02:56] <Romina> okay
[02:57] <draik> intelikey: Yup. Only memtest
[02:57] <intelikey> wow.... draik i have never seen it act this way.     i'm kinda at a loss as to what to try now.
[02:57] <draik> intelikey: What if I do a copy/paste of my other laptop's menu.lst? Would that work?
[02:57] <intelikey> draik   dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[02:57] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, thank you very much for the information you gave me
[02:58] <sub[t]rnl> no problemo
[02:58] <draik> I have the 2.6.22-14-generic, linux-image-generic and a few past versions
[02:58] <shinda_> anyone familiar with converting ac3 audio files to aac?
[02:58] <Strangework> When should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?
[02:59] <intelikey> draik yeah you can do that.   but update-grub will hose it too when it is ran, if we don't find out what is causing this
[02:59] <intelikey> draik past versions ?   with   ii  in the first coloum ?
[02:59] <draik> intelikey: Yes
[02:59] <intelikey> and you have these kernels in /boot as well ?
[03:00] <draik> intelikey: I figure that the menu.lst file is a crapshoot. Copy/paste from other laptop should fix it, right?
[03:00] <draik> intelikey: Yes. They are in /boot as well
[03:00] <intelikey> try it.   if not we'll try something different
[03:01] <draik> Onit
[03:01] <draik> On it
[03:01] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl did you notice that he has several kernels installed and  update-grub  made a new menu.lst with only memtest listed in it ?
[03:01] <sub[t]rnl> cookies waiting if you get it resolved intelikey, just keep that in mind
[03:01] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:02] <draik> intelikey: In regards to the mounting and such of the usb drive, do I want to mount as user?
[03:02] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ wasn't following too closely, but that is strange as heck
[03:02] <intelikey> something is seriously hosed.   like maybe  perl is missing or something
[03:03] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, there are 2 more questions comming into my head concerning the same problem and since you've been the one how answered my question before,  I would like to direct them straight to you
[03:03] <intelikey> draik normally as root.
[03:03] <Strangework> When should KDE4 be remotely bug-free for Kubuntu?
[03:03] <draik> intelikey: Hmmm.. ok
[03:03] <KillerFlamingo> So i tried the virtualbox with many error durring the install so now i will try to the VMware but it looks as though i will need to compile it my self unless some out there knows of another way?
[03:03] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, please tell me,  if I can see in advance how much traffic it will cause to do the dist-upgrade,   because my internet package plan allows me only to download 3 gigs per month
[03:03] <intelikey> draik it's a linux fs so the permissions are not affected by who mounts
[03:04] <intelikey> i.e. the permissions bit is on each inode
[03:04] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, next question: I just found out that there is a KubuntuDistUpgrade      Tool
[03:04] <Romina> can it be recommended?
[03:04] <FaiDillinGer> how can i enable numlock at login time please ? when xorg popsup
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ theres several ways to get yourself upgraded.  kubuntudistupgrade is most likely an apt front end anyway
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> upgrade | Romina
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> dern
[03:05] <sub[t]rnl> !upgrade | Romina
[03:05] <intelikey> totally opposed to M$ fs's which have no permissions bit and thus the mount command assigns an fs wide permission
[03:05] <ubotu> Romina: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:05] <Romina> Thank you sub[t]rnl !
[03:06] <draik> intelikey: Ok. I copied menu.lst to /mnt/boot/grub/
[03:06] <draik> umount /mnt?
[03:06] <intelikey> no
[03:06] <intelikey> first umount /proc
[03:06] <intelikey> then exit the chroot shell
[03:06] <intelikey> then umount /mnt
[03:06] <draik> How do I exit the chroot shell?
[03:07] <intelikey> exit
[03:07] <draik> Got it. Thanks
[03:07] <draik> Done
[03:07] <draik> Reboot?
[03:07] <intelikey> yep
[03:07] <draik> Ok. Here goes
[03:08]  * intelikey runs for cover.
[03:08] <intelikey> :)
[03:08] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[03:08] <intelikey> LOOK OUT SHE'S GONA BLOW !!!!!
[03:08]  * sub[t]rnl face plants
[03:09] <draik> WHOA
[03:09] <draik> It's flashing all over the place
[03:09] <draik> Ok
[03:09] <draik> No more flashing
[03:09]  * draik is happy he's not epileptic
[03:09] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, is the "apt-get upgrade"  stuff really necessary?   Because it will download 342 Mb of packages
[03:10] <intelikey> draik remember the stage1 error?   that may have been it.
[03:10] <kadam> !raid
[03:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:10] <draik> Should I have copied it as well?
[03:10] <draik> intelikey: I only copy/pasted menu.lst
[03:10] <intelikey> draik we'll see
[03:10] <intelikey> how is it doing ?
[03:10] <draik> I have a brown/tan screen
[03:11] <draik> It's not doing anything
[03:11] <intelikey> then probably yes.
[03:11] <draik> All I need from the laptop is the IM log
[03:11] <draik> How can I get the log from kopete?
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> Romina➜ its recommended that your system be up to date before upgrading via repositories
[03:12]  * intelikey wonders if that's an "i'm going to reload this thing"    question
[03:12] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, ok then I will do so
[03:12] <Romina> thank you very much once more
[03:12] <draik> intelikey: Yeah. Seems that's going to be the only way.
[03:12] <sub[t]rnl> *cough* super grub disk *cough*
[03:12] <draik> Wait
[03:12] <draik> Haha.
[03:12] <draik> sub[t]rnl: Yup
[03:13] <kadam> Is it possible/simple to install Linux on a separate hard drive than Windows?
[03:13] <intelikey> draik boot the live CD and copy the stage1* files as well      and while you are there copy your log out   then if it doesn't boot, you can reload without having to go back in.
[03:13] <draik> !enter | draik
[03:13] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ you bet
[03:13] <draik> kadam: Yes.
[03:14] <intelikey> kadam linux doesn't really care where it lives, as long as it's not in ntfs space
[03:14] <intelikey> well or vfat
[03:15] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: draik: Would it be advisable to remove my windows drive before installation?  Is there anything I should know to install the bootloader?  Will it ask me which drive I want it installed on?
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> and as we just learned, as long as grub can find the partition to boot from
[03:15] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:15] <kadam> ahh, heheh, nice
[03:15] <draik> kadam: Leave it in there. It's better that way
[03:16] <kadam> draik: If my Windows drive is a raid0 array, will I have issues with GRUB?
[03:16] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl "partition" being a key word for grub.  i don't use them   and lilo does just fine at booting without a partition
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ no need to remove your windows drive before installing.  You can select the drive you want to install on from the bootable cd
[03:16] <draik> Corss your fingers... here we go
[03:16] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ agreed
[03:17] <draik> intelikey: I had linux setup on a separate HDD at one point. Not an issue with GRUB.
[03:17] <intelikey> draik i said nothing about that.   i said i don't have a partition
[03:18] <kadam> Orrr, what if I set my Linux drive as the first boot device, and install GRUB to IT?
[03:18] <kadam> hehe, sorry, I'm just scared ! :O
[03:18] <draik> Install Linux. Use GrUB. GrUB will know what to do.
[03:18] <draik> intelikey: Sorry. Read it wrong
[03:18] <intelikey> kadam it wont hurt a thing to do it that way.  and if you feel safer to unplug the other drive/s first, do that.
[03:19]  * draik is going to research Lasik eye surgery after the laptop boots up.
[03:19] <kadam> Very well 8)  so, just to insure, GrUB can handle RAID0?
[03:19]  * kadam has wanted eye surgery since radial keratotomy
[03:20] <intelikey> it can when setup propperly.
[03:20] <draik> intelikey: sub[t]rnl: I'm in INITRAMFS
[03:20] <intelikey> then the root=/device is wrong
[03:20] <sub[t]rnl> you leave me out of this, your in capable hands
[03:20] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[03:21] <morphine> howdy folks
[03:21] <intelikey> draik reboot.  and at the menu  edit the line and change the  root=/dev/hda1   <<< should be that
[03:21] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+del  should reboot you just fine.
[03:21] <draik> Yup
[03:22]  * kadam starts on HD installation
[03:22] <intelikey> we could have continued from the initramfs  but i don't much like to
[03:23] <draik> intelikey: I have root=UUID=(long string of characters)
[03:23] <draik> Change it?
[03:23] <intelikey> change it to   root=/dev/hda1
[03:24] <draik> Ok
[03:24] <draik> Booting from it
[03:24] <woddf2> Hello
[03:24] <intelikey> enter to accept   b to boot
[03:24] <draik> Did that
[03:24] <woddf2> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php Is this what I should read if I want to upgrade to KDE 4?
[03:24] <draik> acpi-force is required to enable ACPI
[03:24] <draik> Loading, please wait...
[03:25] <intelikey> draik now if the initramfs has a device node .....
[03:25] <draik> Sorry, that was to be acpi=force
[03:25] <maybeway36> woddf2: yeah
[03:25] <woddf2> Thanks
[03:25] <woddf2> Goodbye
[03:25] <maybeway36> i'm on debian lenny. it's not there yet
[03:26] <intelikey> draik is it booting ?   or waiting on an fs ?
[03:27] <draik> It's just sitting there
[03:27] <draik> Loading, please wait...
[03:27] <draik> Ok
[03:27] <draik> Back to INITRAMFS
[03:27] <intelikey> ok when it times out you'll have to do this    mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[03:27] <draik> intelikey: ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.
[03:28] <intelikey> from mknod command ?
[03:28] <intelikey> draik   mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1
[03:28] <draik> Nope. That's once it's done "loading"
[03:28] <draik> intelikey: Done
[03:28] <intelikey> mount /dev/hda1 /root
[03:28] <marcos> good evening all
[03:29] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:29] <intelikey> draik modprobe ide-disk
[03:30] <draik> ok
[03:30] <intelikey> draik mount /dev/hda1 /root
[03:30] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:30] <intelikey> sec.
[03:30] <X9nLinuxX> I did a reinstall of Dapper on an old iMac yesterday.  After installation, went into system settings -> Login Manager -> Admin mode | ... to make some modifications and it put up the password screen as expected... entered password and it popped up a window saying 'Conversation with su failed'...
[03:30] <X9nLinuxX> Q1: What does this mean?  Q2: How do I fix it?
[03:31] <intelikey> ok draik modprobe ide-generic
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: Done
[03:31] <intelikey> draik modprobe ext3
[03:31] <intelikey> then mount again
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device or address
[03:32] <intelikey> interesting.    ls -l /dev/hda1
[03:32] <ere4si> need mkdir /root/hda1 (or another name)
[03:32] <intelikey> no
[03:32] <intelikey> ere4si /root is correct
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: brw-r--r--    1 0        0       3,    1 /dev/hda1
[03:33] <intelikey> draik just to make sure, type     exit
[03:33] <intelikey> draik if it boots your in. if not it loops back to the prompt
[03:33] <draik> Ok. I typed exit and it looped to the prompt
[03:33] <intelikey> ok
[03:34] <intelikey> let me study the modules list a minute
[03:34] <draik> Ok
[03:34] <intelikey> draik modprobe generic
[03:34] <intelikey> and exit
[03:35] <draik> FATAL: Module generic not found
[03:35] <draik> still exit?
[03:35] <intelikey> no
[03:35] <woddf2> How do I upgrade to KDE 4 without keeping KDE 3?
[03:36] <intelikey> draik lets see if you have an fs listed by uid in /dev  ls /dev
[03:36] <draik> I hve a few things in there
[03:36] <intelikey> !kde4 | woddf2
[03:36] <ubotu> woddf2: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:36] <draik> ls /dev provided quite a list
[03:36] <intelikey> draik anything about uid or uuid ?
[03:37] <woddf2> Thanks
[03:37] <draik> intelikey: Many TTY**, but after that there isn't any UID or UUID
[03:38] <intelikey> try  ls /dev/u*
[03:38] <intelikey> or   ls /dev/U*
[03:38] <draik> intelikey: usb1 and urandom
[03:38] <intelikey> ok.  let me think some more.
[03:38] <draik> intelikey: Nothing for U*
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ can you run any commands via sudo?
[03:40] <X9nLinuxX> Would I need to do a complete reinstall because of a 'Conversation with su failed' message?
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ most likely no, ill walk try to walk you through it
[03:40] <intelikey> draik i'm pretty sure you are only a module away from booting,  but i don't know which module.   if i knew your hardware i might be able to find it.  but this remote trubble shooting with "stone knoves and bear skins" is kinda awkward...
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ can you execute any commands with sudo?
[03:41] <intelikey> X9nLinuxX sudo echo boo     <<<< that will test your sudoers rights
[03:41] <draik> intelikey: Haha. Nice way to put it
[03:42] <draik> intelikey: I thank you for your time and effort
[03:42] <draik> You've been great
[03:42] <intelikey> X9nLinuxX if it says boo then you are good to go,  if it doesn't say boo  then you cainT root
[03:42] <X9nLinuxX> everything works fine except for having no access to things that want password / admin authentication
[03:42] <X9nLinuxX> Password authentication on start up is fine...
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ right, try running the command intelikely gave you
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> trying to see if its just a problem with kdesu
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> (he said dapper right?)
[03:43] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[03:43] <X9nLinuxX> yes dapper... starting up konsole now
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> hopefully sudo works, saves a reboot into recovery mode
[03:44] <Agent_bob> draik seeing that my modem just reset.   (which means i have not made rounds in time to catch it.)  i think i better go for a few.
[03:44] <X9nLinuxX> it did say boo...
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> k, so its just kdesu
[03:44] <draik> Agent_bob: ...?
[03:45] <Agent_bob> draik yeah it's me.    :)
[03:45] <Agent_bob> < intelikey
[03:45] <draik> Agent_bob: 10-4.
[03:45] <draik> Agent_bob: If I load up the Live CD, hoe do I get what I need?
[03:45] <X9nLinuxX> so what does this mean? (Sorry if I'm missing something here)
[03:45] <draik> Can I copy/paste into the mounted partition?
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ sudo visudo
[03:46] <Agent_bob> draik sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt    and brouse /mnt/home
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ you'll see a line like: root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:46] <Agent_bob> draik absolutely   if you have permission.    i.e.  kdesudo konqueror
[03:47] <draik> Agent_bob: I should. It's loading right now
[03:47] <X9nLinuxX> ok... 'timestamp too far in the future'
[03:47] <X9nLinuxX> didn't get any line about root
[03:47] <Agent_bob> back in a bit.      and draik your live CD user is "ubuntu" which is probably not the installed user name... so perms will very
[03:47] <Agent_bob> vary
[03:47] <sub[t]rnl> so it just spit out that error? didn't access the sudoers file?
[03:48] <X9nLinuxX> um.... wait a minute...
[03:48] <woddf2> KDE 4 crashes when I try to use it!
[03:48] <X9nLinuxX> right... but...
[03:48] <woddf2> X crashes, and it returns me to KDM!
[03:49] <woddf2> ...well?
[03:49] <X9nLinuxX> clock time shows that the time is 17:48... that's five hours ago...
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ hrm, try clearing the timestamps, sudo -k
[03:49] <X9nLinuxX> (is this an issue with clock being mucked up?
[03:49] <woddf2> X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ most likely.  I believe linux has security measures against date time adjusted exploits to get around security
[03:50] <X9nLinuxX> again timestamp too far in the future
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> try setting the clock back
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> way back, then try clearing it
[03:50] <X9nLinuxX> The install just finished last night... its essentially 'out of the box' without my fiddlings
[03:51] <X9nLinuxX> the time here is USA EST... so the actual time should read 22:51
[03:52] <woddf2> X crashes when I try to use KDE 4!
[03:52] <X9nLinuxX> aaaawwwww... now it won't even show the clock adjustment info
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> woddf2: #kubuntu-kde4
[03:53] <woddf2> No-one answered!
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> So!
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> Not everything has to be an exclamation!
[03:53] <_luke_> woddf2: yeah I think I have the same issue
[03:53]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[03:53] <Daisuke-Ido> sorry, i'll go back to my beer now :D
[03:54]  * sub[t]rnl slides Daisuke-Ido another
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> woohoo!
[03:54] <shinda__> hey guys anyone know where I can find ac52dec I've search google and the repos but can't find it,
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> !ac52dec
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ac52dec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <Daisuke-Ido> are you sure that's the name?
[03:55] <Daisuke-Ido> because if there's *nothing* on google...  you've probably got it spelled wrong
[03:55] <shinda__> well there are articles on how to use it on google, and even found it mentioned in an old ubuntus repositary but nothing more then that
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ get it working?
[03:56] <X9nLinuxX> no...
[03:56] <X9nLinuxX> it won't even show the clock info now ...admin login key is grayed out too
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> try sudo -v from konsole
[03:57] <Daisuke-Ido> shinda__: just out of curiosity, what is it?
[03:57] <X9nLinuxX> its says I'm at desktop now... but that's it
[03:57] <Daisuke-Ido> it's possible it's been deprecated and replaced by a new piece of software
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ no errors when running the command?
[03:58] <X9nLinuxX> no
[03:58] <shinda__> ac3 decoder, to dump ac3 files to wavs it looks like (it was mentioned in a tutorial) but I think I'm going try ffmpeg
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ now try sudo -k
[03:58] <Daisuke-Ido> ffmpeg would be your best bet
[03:58] <X9nLinuxX> time stame too far in future again
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> X9nLinuxX➜ have you rebooted since the errors?  I don't really like to suggest it, but I'm sure that will clear up the problem
[04:00] <X9nLinuxX> no... but will do that now
[04:01] <X9nLinuxX> it does allow login on startup ok... but then after that... no joy about admin access anywhere
[04:01] <X9nLinuxX> (that was earlier today)
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> the timestamps are stored in your /var/run/sudo/ as far as I know.
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> rebooting should straighten it out
[04:02] <X9nLinuxX> is this perhaps related to the time being wrong so its not happy to let an 'alien' login to the computer because of the time screwup?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, its directly related
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[04:03] <fantom210> is there a channel to talk about fedora?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> #fedora
[04:04] <X9nLinuxX> machine is slower than hobbes, but at least it gives me a chance to play linux unmolested by things like 'productivity' and 'work' until confidence in the system settles in more
[04:04] <fantom210> thanks
[04:05] <kadam> What's the best FS to use if I want to read and write from linux and Windows?  Is there something that can handle, say, 90GB partitions?
[04:05] <X9nLinuxX> this channel & the brains here are the 'make or break' that made me choose Kubuntu over other choices.  Everybody is great here pretty regular
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, there are some great people here.
[04:07] <X9nLinuxX> a message popped up on startup 'run as root kde'  ... 'SEEMED' to take authentication happily
[04:08] <X9nLinuxX> then clock shows up... tried login... it 'seems' like maybe its happy to let me in now
[04:08] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ ext3 file system will do nicely.  It can be read in windows with a system driver installed
[04:09] <X9nLinuxX> it looks like the automatic time set installed a time 5 hours off... as if GMT is here and actual gmt is 5 hours behind
[04:10] <X9nLinuxX> wonder what would happen if I changed it to GMT as my time zone
[04:10] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Alright, that sounds fine.  Is that a difficult driver to find/install?
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ nope, ill grab you a link
[04:11] <fantom210> can i play windows games on KUBUNTU?
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> !wine > fantom210
[04:12] <fantom210> what?
[04:12] <chris062689> Hola.
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> !wine | fantom210
[04:12] <ubotu> fantom210: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:13] <fantom210> thanks again!
[04:14] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Nice, thanks 8)  Do you know how I might be able to format the drive in Windows?  Or would I be best off using the liveCD for formatting to ext3?
[04:14] <sub[t]rnl> I would use the liveCD for partitioning
[04:14] <chris062689> How come i'm getting an error?
[04:14] <chris062689> chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ dir
[04:14] <chris062689> bios  cdimages  pSX
[04:14] <chris062689> chris@chris-laptop:~/psx$ ./pSX
[04:14] <chris062689> bash: ./pSX: No such file or directory
[04:15] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Alright.  Now, here's something I've always wondered... How do I know which drive is which?
[04:15] <chris062689> Why can't I launch pSX?
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ you can look at sudo fdisk -l from the liveCD
[04:15] <fantom210> is that mean i can do everything on kubuntu that i did on windows?
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ it will show your drives, partitions, and filesystems on each
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> fantom210➜ negative, you can probably find alternate programs for the windows counterparts though, that are native to linux.
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> fantom210➜ but yes, a lot of windows programs can be run via wine
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> bbiab
[04:17] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Very nice, you've been most helpful, thank you 8)
[04:18] <chris062689> o_o
[04:18] <chris062689> Why did i Just get spammed with a million people joining?
[04:18] <effie_jayx> chris062689,  it's called netsplit
[04:19] <effie_jayx> @netsplit
[04:23] <chris062689> !netsplit
[04:23] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:24] <Daisuke-Ido> and that was nowhere near a million.  i've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
[04:24] <Sakkath_> i checked integrity of my install cd, but kdm just won't start. i tried getting i386 just becasue i thought maybe it was the amd64 that was th eproblem. i even tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didn't help.
[04:24] <Sakkath_> Xorg.0.log says 'No devices detected' - 'no screens found'
[04:25] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: have you done any updates since installing?
[04:25] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: Are you back?
[04:25] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i answered in other chan, but i'd prefer if you responded-back here
[04:25] <Scunizi> k
[04:26] <chris062689> :\
[04:26] <Sakkath_> gpm isn't a pkg?
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: ok.. do a sudo apt-get update
[04:26] <Sakkath_> yeah i was just considering that.
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: then do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:26] <Daisuke-Ido> um
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: tehn do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:27] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: god, why must the install cd be broke?
[04:27] <Daisuke-Ido> Sakkath_: perhaps you're looking for gdm?
[04:27] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: broke?
[04:27] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: he can't seem to get kdm started.. he's on kubuntu
[04:27] <Sakkath_> Daisuke-Ido: no--"#kubuntu"
[04:28] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: he's also got an nvidia 8800 (newer)
[04:28] <Sakkath_> Daisuke-Ido: it's not that i can't find the program, xorg won't start
[04:30] <Scunizi> Daisuke-Ido: Sakkath_ 's install is also fresh as in clean.
[04:30] <Sakkath_> meaning i never installed, this is the install cd
[04:31] <kadam> I'd like to format my secondary drive.  I'm in the liveCD right now.  Does anyone know what I have to do?
[04:31] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: ah.. you never told me that.. you're running off the live cd?
[04:31] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i clearly said that
[04:31] <Sakkath_> if only i had gpm to prove it
[04:31] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: must have missed that or forgot it...
[04:31] <Sakkath_> it's ok, i might just go w/debian ;x
[04:32] <Sakkath_> I was just being lazy
[04:32] <Sakkath_> and i really don't wanna wait for shit to emerge on gentoo (:
[04:32] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: you could try changing the driver from nv to vesa and see if that does anything.
[04:32] <Sakkath_> ok
[04:32] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: when starting the desktop you could also try "startx"
[04:33] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: yes, i have. also--should i enable the fb thing
[04:33] <Sakkath_> 'Use kernel fb device iface?'
[04:33] <Scunizi> fb thing?
[04:33] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: I've no idea what that is.
[04:33] <Sakkath_> (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[04:33] <kadam> I want to install Kubuntu 7.10 but don't want KDE3; just KDE4.  Is there a new CD out for that?
[04:34] <Sakkath_> kadam: i'd advise against that
[04:34] <organix> agrees with Sakkath_
[04:34] <Sakkath_> 'Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware, the X server may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode switching, via the kernel's framebuffer driver."
[04:35] <Sakkath_> kadam: kde4 is shit and nowhere near being ready to be released--give it some time
[04:35] <Sakkath_> buggy (:
[04:35] <Sakkath_> 'In theory, either approach should work, but in practice, sometimes one does and the other does not. Enabling this option is the safe bet, but feel free to turn it off if it appears to casue problems.'
[04:36] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: you've got nothing to loose
[04:36] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: k
[04:36] <kadam> Sakkath_: Thanks but I've been running it on my laptop for the last three weeks and I love it.  Plus there's a huge update coming out next week, from what I hear.  Do you know if there's a KDE4 CD?
[04:36] <Sakkath_> kadam: no i do not know about it, but i still think you'll regret it if you try it.
[04:37] <draik> Where do I find the history logs from Kopete?
[04:37] <kadam> Sakkath_: I exclusively use KDE4 with no problems for my needs.  I'd just like to do the same on my desktop 8)  THanks tho 8)
[04:37] <Romina> sub[t]rnl ?
[04:37] <Scunizi> kadam: www.kubuntu.org.. follow the links
[04:38] <Romina> sub[t]rnl, please highlight me if you are here
[04:38] <kadam> Ahhh, will I need Hardy to go straight to KDE4?  In that case, yes, too buggy, hehe... I'll stick with the KDE upgrade method and 7.10...
[04:38] <kadam> Scunizi: thanks 8)
[04:39] <Scunizi> kadam np
[04:39] <Romina> anyone here with experiences with a "dist-upgrade" ?
[04:40] <Romina> I have done "aptitude upgrade" which just finished  (342 MB new programs :)
[04:40] <Romina> now I want to do  "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:40] <Scunizi> go for it
[04:40] <Romina> there are just 2 things I worry about:
[04:40] <Scunizi> it won't upgrade to the next version of ubuntu/kubuntu
[04:41] <Romina> 1) do I need to alter  /etc/apt/sources.list   and fill in the  Gutsy (7.10)  sources instead of the 7.04  sources?
[04:41] <Scunizi> Romina: you're upgrading from 7.04.. ?  don't take my advice I borked my upgrade.
[04:41] <sherl0k> wasn't the syntax changed to sudo do-upgrade in 7.04?
[04:41] <sherl0k> instead of a dist-upgrade
[04:42] <Romina> sherl0k, no clue yet
[04:42] <sherl0k> i'm pretty sure that will upgrade you
[04:42] <Romina> Scunizi, so you think I should NOT upgrade?
[04:42] <sherl0k> and your sources.list won't change
[04:42] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: well.. apparently it was the nv driver. i guess i *could* do it w/the 'safe' options and then do the real nvidia driver later.
[04:42] <sherl0k> rather..
[04:42] <sherl0k> you don't need to change them
[04:42] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: so vesa is working?
[04:42] <Romina> do I need to chance my  /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[04:42] <sherl0k> the upgrade process does it all for you, at least for the main ubuntu repositories
[04:42] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: yes, w/startx at least
[04:42] <Romina> if yes - before of after the dist upgrade?
[04:42] <ere4si> !upgrade
[04:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:42] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: high 5 to you..!  finally..
[04:42] <sherl0k> that works too :)
[04:43] <sherl0k> thanks ere4si
[04:43] <ere4si> k
[04:43] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: so are you going to do an actual install?
[04:43] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: maybe.
[04:43] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: :P
[04:44] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: after all that ..? what's holding you back?
[04:44] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i WAS gonna, but i donno, i think i might try out debian XD. at least this help will help me elsewhere
[04:44] <sherl0k> hey anyone by chance know much about mysql server confs?
[04:44] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i'll install it for now at least since i already have it downloaded & burned. one day i'l lput debian, just lazy for now.
[04:44] <Sakkath_> sherl0k: man does (:
[04:44] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: I tried debian. nice .. stable.. but syntax is a little different using apt
[04:44] <sherl0k> hahaha
[04:44] <sherl0k> Sakkath_, yeah man doesn't help me much in this situation
[04:45] <Sakkath_> sherl0k: don't ask to ask--just ask your question.
[04:45] <Sakkath_> Don't be so ambiguous (:
[04:45] <sherl0k> lol
[04:45] <Scunizi> Sakkath_: you could always install kubuntu and then vmware then debian in a vm
[04:45] <sherl0k> the debian remark reminded me of my problem i'm having
[04:45] <Sakkath_> do you really want/think someone is gonna sit here and say 'yes i'm familiar with mysql server confs' (:
[04:45] <sherl0k> got an ubuntu box and a debian box, both have mysql server
[04:45] <Sakkath_> 'cause i could be, but i donno how extensive of a problem you have
[04:45] <sherl0k> the debian box, when running mysql, has multiple processes for it
[04:45] <Sakkath_> so i abstain
[04:45] <sherl0k> and the ubuntu box only has one
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, I looked at this page ...
[04:46] <Scunizi> sherl0k: you could try #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <Sakkath_> Scunizi: i could, if i had infinite disk space. if i were to do that i'd just put both on a vm on my windows and screw the dual-boot lol
[04:46] <sherl0k> i tried there :(
[04:46] <Sakkath_> or #mysql (:
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, but it tells me how to do it graphically
[04:46] <Romina> ere4si, I wanted to stick to the shell
[04:46] <sherl0k> haha yeah i forgot about that
[04:46] <X9nLinuxX> sub[t]rnl: After the restart and then fixing the clock the messages have not stopped.  It looked like it was going to behave, but now its back to not letting me login again "Conversation with su failed" errors again
[04:46] <X9nLinuxX> it DID allow me to login to the admin mode for the clock... but doesn't do so (in 'login' settings)
[04:50] <Sakkath_> looks like i can't just do fakeraid from here. it doesn't even see the hdd as being used at all. when windows is clearly using it
[04:53] <X9nLinuxX> it doesn't allow access to Adept, Users n Groups, system servives, disks, or display
[04:53] <BluesKaj> Sakkath_, dmesg | grep hd  ?
[04:57] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: looks like lot of errors, will upload a log--hold on
[04:59] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: no gpm, have to type out link-- http://rafb.net/p/ZfjEup14.html
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Sakkath_, you have DMA disabled ...sorry I don't know the command in Linux
[05:03] <BluesKaj> !DMA
[05:03] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:03] <kadam> sub[t]rnl: If you're here, thanks for that ext3 fs reader for WinXP!  Seems to be working great 8)
[05:04] <Sakkath_> BluesKaj: that's bizare
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> kadam➜ excellent :>
[05:04] <Sakkath> BluesKaj: :S
[05:06] <Sakkath> !DMA
[05:06] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:07] <Sakkath> I obviously can't install dmraid because i'm on the livecd. seems you need to do the raid after, wtf?
[05:07] <Sakkath> oh wow, tha twas easy--hdparm
[05:07] <BluesKaj> Sakkath, that happens sometimes with 2 HDD setups
[05:07] <kadam> wait, what?  I'm just now setting up a 2hd setup...
[05:08] <Sakkath> BluesKaj:  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device <- this is sata, when i do 'hdparm /dev/sda' it shoesn't even show using_dma as an option
[05:09] <BluesKaj> sorry , bedtime here my sata & raid knowledge is  0
[05:10] <kadam> it's not /dev/sds?
[05:10] <Sakkath> uhm.... this fakeraid guide says to go to 'Start -> Settings -> ADministration' this is 7.04 (the guide) and the latest is not 7.04, right?
[05:10] <Sakkath> kadam: well it would be /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:10] <kadam> Sakkath: Latest stable is 7.10
[05:10] <kadam> Sakkath: Ahh, you're right 8)
[05:11] <Sakkath> then yeah, tha's what i'm on. so where can i find synaptic manager on this one?
[05:11] <Sakkath> and place to add sources
[05:11] <kadam> if you're askin' me, I wish I could help, sakkath 8)
[05:11] <surgy> Sakkath: you want to edit your sources.list?
[05:12] <Sakkath> i'll use adept.
[05:12] <Sakkath> what are the default and 'universal' sources?
[05:12] <surgy> Sakkath:  its easiest from the command line "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:13] <Sakkath> damn, i'm gonna have to resize using fdisk and ntfsrezise because of my raid
[05:13] <Sakkath> not universal, i meant 'universe software'
[05:13] <surgy> Sakkath:  did you try the command i offered?
[05:14] <Sakkath> surgy: it doesn't necessarily matter since i could have done it from adept
[05:14] <surgy> Sakkath: ok well was just trying to help, and terminal is much faster
[05:14] <Sakkath> oh i see
[05:14] <Sakkath> they are commented out?
[05:14] <Sakkath> ah.
[05:14] <surgy> yeah by defualt
[05:14] <Sakkath> it did help
[05:14] <Sakkath> (:
[05:14] <Sakkath> surgy: thanks.
[05:14] <surgy> see :)
[05:14] <surgy> Sakkath: np
[05:15] <Sakkath> surgy: i don't need the 'deb-src' one, right?
[05:15] <surgy> umm i just uncomment all of em
[05:15] <Sakkath> ok.
[05:15] <dick-richardson> I have an Officejet 5610 connected to my Gutsy machine via usb. How do I print to it from my wife's Mac (OS X Tiger)
[05:15] <Sakkath> surgy: then apt-get update, right?
[05:16] <surgy> Sakkath:  yeah but use sudo "sudo apt-get update"
[05:16] <surgy> or be root or whatever im sure you knew this
[05:16] <Sakkath> surgy: or kdesu. don't worry. i may just be 'sudo su -'d you wouldn't know. i have a bunch of linux experience, just not ubuntu/debian (:
[05:16] <Sakkath> plus it'd bitch at me otherwise :P
[05:17] <Sakkath> woot now i can get gpm, LOL it doesn't matter now cause i got xorg to work w/vesa
[05:17] <surgy> Sakkath: and im the opisit :) i know kubuntu but beyond that, nbothing i know nothing about other distros beyond some of there names
[05:17] <Sakkath> lol
[05:17] <Sakkath> I've spent a lot of time w/Gentoo
[05:18] <surgy> ehh i dowloaded the 10 million terabyte install cds or however big they are for red hat, installed it look around for five mins and formatted once
[05:18] <surgy> fedora*
[05:18] <Sakkath> surgy: some issues trying to get dmraid & gpm (same issues) http://rafb.net/p/IsbRNF15.html
[05:19] <Sakkath> I'm sure now that it's past the 'fedora core' shit, it's a lot better
[05:19] <Sakkath> I herd some things about it being good, or having potential
[05:19] <Sakkath> Fedora 7?
[05:19] <Sakkath> OpenSUSE hhas kde set up nice so that it has this cool search feature in the start menu
[05:20] <Sakkath> Not saying I couldn't do it otherwise, just lazy. and i would have no clue what it's called :P
[05:21] <Sakkath> why the hell would it try to start cupsd??
[05:21] <surgy> Sakkath: check this out, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/174069
[05:21] <surgy> Sakkath:  maybe that helps?
[05:21] <kalorin> maybe you want to print something?
[05:21] <kalorin> :)
[05:21] <dick-richardson> I'd like to print something
[05:22] <dick-richardson> from my wife's mac to my ubuntu machine :P
[05:22] <Sakkath> kalorin: I fail to see how apt-get install dmraid would show any intentions of printing something (:
[05:22] <kalorin> or it wants to print something for you, maybe it's like one of those internet horror movies where whatever comes out of the printer it says you have 24 hours to live?
[05:22] <kalorin> two days ago on my workstation at work, I tried to get the USB stuff working with my ipod
[05:22] <kalorin> for whatever reason it decided to stop (turned out I needed to reboot my ipod)
[05:23] <kalorin> so i went to install the userspace usb manager
[05:23] <kalorin> it removed the kernel
[05:23] <kalorin> oh boy let me tell you, that was FUN FUN FUN!
[05:23] <Sakkath> surgy: well it didn't seem that bug was resolved, anyways i just removed cupsys, i don't need it (:
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath:  so whats the goal here?
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:24] <kalorin> by the time it was over, I could have reinstalled, teh results would have been similar cause I put the kernel back, then went to remove that package and something else, the next thing I know, kde-core was gone along with openoffice and jsut about everything else
[05:24] <kalorin> it was a fun day or so putting that back together, very informations
[05:24] <kalorin> informational
[05:24] <Sakkath> surgy: install kubuntu successfully on 'fakeRAID' with a windows dual-boot (which is already installed)
[05:24] <kalorin> heh windows
[05:24] <kalorin> I stopped using that about a year ago now
[05:24] <surgy> Sakkath: i dont know anything about fakeraid, but i know a half dozen ways to get a dual boot system up
[05:25] <kalorin> for literally anything
[05:25] <Sakkath> kalorin: I game. That's it.
[05:25] <Sakkath> Simple answer (:
[05:25] <surgy> kubuntu can do anything windows can, just takes a little more work
[05:25] <kalorin> except at work I ahve a vmware instance for outlook and the informatica tools that we use
[05:25] <Sakkath> not call of duty 4
[05:25] <Sakkath> (:
[05:25] <kalorin> heh game
[05:25] <surgy> i play call of duty 3
[05:25] <kalorin> have some kids, you'll fix that habbit right away :)
[05:25] <Sakkath> lmao no one in the world plays cod3
[05:25] <Sakkath> i don't even know where you can buy it
[05:26] <Sakkath> cod2 is a different story
[05:26] <Sakkath> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[05:26] <Sakkath> bs
[05:26] <Sakkath> how come it showed the partition table for /dev/sda fine?
[05:26] <surgy> Sakkath:  cedega whould probably    do it, although it doesnt even have a wiki node yet
[05:27] <Sakkath> no, it wouldnt
[05:27] <Sakkath> (:
[05:27] <Sakkath> + i'm not spending the $ for a transgamer account
[05:27] <Sakkath> people always think they can get games workin in wine/cedega
[05:27] <Sakkath> they never do.
[05:27] <Sakkath> i couldn't even get turbotax installed.
[05:27] <kalorin> why on earth would anyone install turbotax?
[05:27] <kalorin> it's webbased now
[05:27] <issya> photoshop 7 and dreamweaver 2004 install and run great
[05:27] <Sakkath> kalorin: this wasn't this year
[05:27] <kalorin> who wants that bloat laying around mucking up things?
[05:28] <Sakkath> kalorin: and i don't do taxes, it was for my stepfather.
[05:28] <mantan> i left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. what happened
[05:28] <surgy> Sakkath:  http://www.cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9087 several of those guys made it work
[05:28] <Sakkath> I'm only 17 (:
[05:28] <Sakkath> surgy: yeah, with shitty sound and every-so-often crashes
[05:28] <Sakkath> I have steam version, not retail
[05:28] <kalorin> issya: I was using elements a lot and then discovered that I like gimp better actually
[05:28] <Sakkath> I doubt it's possible to get ALL Of the games I hve working
[05:28] <kalorin> just took a day or two using it to learn it a little bit more
[05:28] <Sakkath> it will work on mac first before inux
[05:28] <Sakkath> linux
[05:29] <kalorin> seems to be just as powerful for most photo type stuff
[05:29] <Sakkath> won't be full fps either
[05:29] <surgy> sakkath i could debat this in the propper channel, #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <issya> kalorin: i just havent had the time yet to explore gimp. everytime I start to at work, it seems i can get it done faster in photoshop
[05:29] <Sakkath> god, why doesn't '/dev/sdb contain a valid partition table' that's such BS
[05:29] <ubuntu> is there an x ?
[05:29] <Sakkath> surgy: it's a pointless argument so i won't continue (:
[05:29] <kalorin> you should consider setting up xen there sakkath
[05:29] <surgy> sakkath :)
[05:30] <Sakkath> lol
[05:30] <Sakkath> xen?
[05:30] <Sakkath> how would that help me
[05:30] <kalorin> virtualization
[05:30] <Sakkath> i know what xen is
[05:30] <issya> vmware works well
[05:30] <kalorin> rather than dual booting jsut virtualize it
[05:30] <kalorin> vmware isn't fast though
[05:30] <kalorin> xen is almost native fast
[05:30] <Sakkath> kalorin: afaik you can't virtualize windows
[05:30] <Sakkath> lol
[05:30] <issya> i use it in a heavy working enviroment every day. no games though
[05:30] <kalorin> yeah me too
[05:31] <kalorin> outlook
[05:31] <issya> i dont think the 3d works well
[05:31] <ubuntu> 0o is there an x code 2 irc room?
[05:31] <kalorin> informatica tools
[05:31] <Sakkath> so um. can someone help? ;x
[05:31] <kalorin> can't say taht I've ever bothered with dual booting
[05:31] <ubuntu> im gettin my videog ame done first for my company
[05:31] <kalorin> I'd just make another machine personally
[05:31] <Sakkath> that's not even the problem atm
[05:32] <Sakkath> it's just getting fdisk to realize /dev/sdb obviously contains a valid partiton table
[05:32] <ubuntu> yay a machine perwsonality
[05:32] <kalorin> sakkath, if you type p does it print the partition table or no?
[05:32] <mantan>  i left my machine for a week (turned off), it was using 1152x864 for rez. I came back and the thing is set at 1920x1440 and is all dicked. now it won't let me change rez. wtf is going on?
[05:32] <kalorin> perhaps it's because of the fake raid thing
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: not everyything is available when you are 17. especially a 2nd good gfx card to handle aiglx
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: that's os-transparent
[05:32] <kalorin> not to linux
[05:32] <Sakkath> kalorin: only to 'help' windows.
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: yes, to linux.
[05:33] <kalorin> if your'e talking about he motherboard stuff, it's not
[05:33] <Sakkath> to windows, not logically, physically yes
[05:33] <kalorin> or wasnt' a while back when I tried it
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: it is, wanna bet on it? :)
[05:33] <kalorin> clearly it's working well for you
[05:33] <Sakkath> only real raid would be
[05:33] <Sakkath> kalorin: i've had experience
[05:33] <Sakkath> How else would I be able to hdparm both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?
[05:33] <kalorin> well, you're the expert then, why are you here asking us for help?
[05:33] <Sakkath> fdisk clearly distinguishes between the two
[05:34] <kalorin> right, if they're raided in a mirror, then how would you see two drives?
[05:34] <kalorin> perhasp I'm not understanding what you're saying you're having issue with
[05:34] <Sakkath> kalorin: I fail to see why /dev/sdb does not contain a vali dpartition table. i've never used fakeraid for linux, was about to, then learned about it's built-in software raid.
[05:34] <Sakkath> kalorin: because it's os-transparent
[05:34] <Sakkath> it should show NTFS anyways
[05:34] <Sakkath> i wouldn't think it's 'part' of a partition table
[05:34] <surgy> mantan: use this command to change you res "kdesu kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf" and look where it says "screen" you can edit it there, but remember to restart computer after the changes
[05:34] <Sakkath> and it's striped, anyways
[05:35] <kalorin> it's striped?
[05:35] <Sakkath> kalorin: i have to resize my partition (ntfsresize) then repartition with fdisk, then somenhow install it with this fakeraid guide.
[05:35] <kalorin> no idea what it'd make of that
[05:35] <Sakkath> kalorin: theoretically it should see it. linux sw raid will show both as the right partition type
[05:35] <Sakkath> the raid devices are different devices --/dev/mdn where n is an int
[05:35] <kalorin> depends where the partition table is written, if it's on the first drive first stripe then you wouldn't get a partition table on the 2nd drive
[05:36] <Sakkath> kalorin: i would have thought that wouldn't matter, but maybe with striped it would. i have no clue how windows does that
[05:36] <surgy> Sakkath: why not just run them in ide mode and use each hdd for a different os? make things easy on yourself
[05:36] <kalorin> linux is somewhat smarter tahn windows, and usually there's a windows driver of some kind you have to use don't you?
[05:36] <Sakkath> surgy: i don't need that much room for linux, i do need more than what an indiv. drive can give me for windows
[05:36] <Sakkath> kalorin: yes
[05:36] <Sakkath> it would be 'nvraid' on linux, i think
[05:37] <kalorin> sakkath, why not just do 2 partitions of one drive then, put linux on 1 and windows on the other
[05:37] <kalorin> then format the other drive vfat and use it for both :)
[05:37] <Sakkath> kalorin: because i've had windows on these drives for a very long time
[05:37] <surgy> sakkath i have a 10gb ide drive you can have if you pay for shipping
[05:37] <Sakkath> *sigh*
[05:37] <Sakkath> It's supposed to be possible.
[05:37] <kalorin> so is antigravity
[05:37] <kalorin> and wormholes
[05:37] <kalorin> :)
[05:37] <surgy> sakkath, probably is, its just not something people do unless its the last choice i think
[05:38] <Sakkath> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <-- this is what i'm referring to by the way
[05:38] <kalorin> I'm not saying it's not, I'm saying I don't have a clue how you would
[05:39] <Sakkath> oh, and by the way: fdisk /dev/sdb shows *nothing*
[05:39] <kalorin> Your mileage may vary with other versions.
[05:39] <Sakkath> even if there is no filesystem on there, it still has to be partitioned somehow?
[05:39] <Sakkath> kalorin: well theor. things should not be too different, maybe just a few things.
[05:40] <kalorin> again, it depends on where it wrote the partition table
[05:40] <kalorin> I suspect it's on the 1st stripe of the 1st drive
[05:41] <Sakkath> i wouldn't think a drive would funct. properly without anything :/
[05:41] <kalorin> thus you see nothing that makes any sense on the 2nd drive
[05:41] <ubuntu> xc
[05:41] <Sakkath> but hey, i donno how windows does it.
[05:41] <ubuntu> ?
[05:41] <Sakkath> is this guide assuming everyone uses mirroring?
[05:41] <kalorin> might be
[05:41] <kalorin> I never use stripe sets
[05:41] <kalorin> performance is better I guess, but catastrophic data loss changes are doubled
[05:42] <kalorin> minimally raid 5 to stripe
[05:42] <Sakkath> sfdisk: ERROR: sector 0 does not have an msdos signature /dev/sdb: unrecognized partition table type
[05:42] <kalorin> never a pair of drives, it's just begging to lose everything
[05:42] <Sakkath> No partitions found
[05:42] <Sakkath> kalorin: don't jynx me, lol.
[05:42] <Sakkath> well, sfdisk shows slightly more than fdisk
[05:42] <kalorin> just saying
[05:42] <kalorin> I buy disks in pairs, and lazy mirror them
[05:43] <kalorin> unmount and spin one down when I'm not using it, every night at 4am or so I spin it up, mount it, rsync it, and spin it back down again
[05:43] <kalorin> then I have undelete for a day
[05:43] <kalorin> along with data integrity
[05:43] <kalorin> it's more expensive but I don't lose anything
[05:44] <Sakkath> i'm gonna have to ntfresize and use fdisk on the 2nd disk SOMEHOW. so there has to be a way to recognize that partition table
[05:46] <Sakkath> christ. i think because it's striped i've got no luck whatsoever.
[05:46] <Sakkath> windows xp can't resize a partition so how else cna i do it?
[05:46] <Sakkath> unless somehow i can d/l a util. for windows
[05:46] <Sakkath> if i can resize and make fdisk no something is there, i can repartition
[05:46] <kalorin> yeah good luck with that
[05:47] <Sakkath> vista has a resizer, meh.
[05:47] <Sakkath> why can't xp
[05:48] <Sakkath> hmm gparted is recognizing SOMETHING
[05:48] <Sakkath> (/dev/mapper/nvidia_something)
[05:49] <Sakkath> but still is hating /dev/sdb
[05:50] <Sakkath> i guess /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac is my striped partition
[05:50] <Sakkath> it shows /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as unallocated
[05:50] <Sakkath> 298.0GB
[05:50] <Sakkath> erm 298.10GiB. both sda and sdb say 145.05GiB
[05:50] <Sakkath> seems righ tto me.
[05:51] <Sakkath> then it shows /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1 as unallocated, maybe just reserved for something else.
[05:51] <Sakkath> thought it shows 298.10 too
[05:51] <Sakkath> ntfsresize --info /dev/sda2
[05:52] <Sakkath> erm
[05:52] <Sakkath>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:52] <Sakkath> /dev/mapper/nvidia_cegabeac1   *           1       38913   312568641    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:52] <Sakkath> looks like i'm making progres.... doubt ntfsresize will work though.
[05:52] <Sakkath> oh! the 1 is the actual partition and the cegabeac w/out the 1 is just the 'disk' (logical)
[05:53] <gtt> Sakkath: if it doesnt, gparted works great.
[05:53] <Sakkath> gparted shows the cegabeac1 as  'unallocated' and only shows ntfs on 'cegabeac' (w/out 1)
[05:54] <Sakkath> i could fdisk this, but i can't ntfsresize if i can't read /dev/sdb!
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe i just need to resize sda since that contains the partition table?
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe that will work!
[05:54] <Sakkath> maybe i should get norton ghost first xD
[05:54] <Sakkath> wait--can i even back up a striped set?
[05:54] <Sakkath> lol just dd the harddrives into an archive onto a dvd xD
[05:57] <zheka__> ?
[05:58] <Sakkath> ghost only mirrored.
[06:14] <shadowh511> hello
[06:21] <surgy> shadowh511: HIYAS
[06:22] <whabo> hello is anyone here that can assist? with networking ? or sharing folders between computers?
[06:22] <surgy> !ask | whabo
[06:22] <ubotu> whabo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:22] <surgy> !samba | whabo
[06:22] <ubotu> whabo: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[06:31] <crackhead_25_> hey people, how is hardy looking? is it stable? is it good? lots of problems?
[06:34] <vzduch> !hardy | crackhead_25_
[06:34] <ubotu> crackhead_25_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:34] <Taros> I have a question about Gutsy.  Should I upgrade to it on my Acer laptop, or stick with Feisty?
[06:34] <crackhead_25_> vzduch: what's the console command for seeing info about which kubuntu version i have currently installed?
[06:35] <vzduch> you might wanna try 'cat /etc/ubuntu-version' or so
[06:36] <vzduch> 'cat /etc/ubuntu-release'
[06:36] <crackhead_25_> no such file
[06:37] <vzduch> then search for something in /etc/ that ends on 'release'
[06:38] <snarkster> ok so kicker is set to auto hide and then it hides and NEVER comes back.. wth is that all about?
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> lsb_release -a
[06:38] <Taros> uname -o
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> GNU/Linux
[06:38] <Daisuke-Ido> that's reeeeal helpful
[06:39] <snarkster> LOL
[06:39] <snarkster> uname -a
[06:39] <Daisuke-Ido> that's still just kernel info
[06:39] <snarkster> uname -a is everything
[06:40] <Daisuke-Ido> username, kernel, time, architecture, SMP, generic OS (GNU/Linux)
[06:40] <snarkster> what data are you looking for?
[06:40] <Daisuke-Ido> lsb_release -a is what he wants if he wants to know what version of ubuntu he's running.
[06:41] <snarkster> just look at /etc/release
[06:41] <snarkster> there is no release  in etc?
[06:41] <snarkster> youve got to be kidding.
[06:41] <Daisuke-Ido> so wouldn't a simple command he can type in be easier?
[06:42] <snarkster> how do you not know what version of ubuntu you installed?
[06:44] <snarkster> not being rude..
[06:45] <Taros> Does Gutsy have pretty good hardware support for Acer laptops, anyone know?
[06:45] <Taros> Compared to Feisty?
[06:45] <epimeth> good evenening guys...
[06:45] <snarkster> hmm what version?
[06:45] <Daisuke-Ido> depends, has asus started using better hardware?
[06:45] <epimeth> anyone connecting to a vpn using network manager?
[06:46] <epimeth> specifically, network-manager-kde (KNetworkManager) ?
[06:46] <snarkster> epimeth no but ive seen some howtos before
[06:46] <Taros> I've had no problems with hardware on my Acer.
[06:46] <epimeth> snarkster: wanna help me out? :-)
[06:46] <snarkster> epimeth: well um ill try but ive never done it before
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> -asus + acer
[06:47] <snarkster> ill do some searching for you
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> i've been futzing with the asus mobo in my fiancee's machine
[06:47] <epimeth> snarkster: I've done the searching
[06:47] <Taros> How's that working out?
[06:47] <Daisuke-Ido> other than the junk via chipset, pretty well
[06:48] <epimeth> snarkster: from what I gather, it should work in 7.10
[06:48] <epimeth> snarkster: it doesn't for me, but I have different simptoms than what others have
[06:49] <epimeth> basically, I get the vpn menu, but there is no 'create vpn' option.  the only option I get is "Disconnect VPN" and it is grayed out
[06:49] <snarkster> epimeth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-548565.html
[06:52] <epimeth> snarkster: I don't want to install gnome network manager.....
[06:52] <epimeth> grrrr
[06:52] <epimeth> you wouldn't happen to know what a vpn's configuration file looks like for network manager and/or where it is kept, would you?
[06:52] <epimeth> :-)
[06:52] <epimeth> I'll create one manually
[06:52] <greg> is kde4-core broken for anyone else?
[06:53] <vzduch> define 'broken'
[06:53] <epimeth> greg: I'm with vzduch
[06:53] <greg> it won't install...everything was working fine until a couple of days ago
[06:53] <greg> it depends on kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime, and kdebase-workspace which aren't installable
[06:54] <epimeth> greg: did you add the repository?
[06:54] <greg> on hardy
[06:54] <greg> i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu
[06:54] <epimeth> oh.. on hardy... can't help you there :-)
[06:54] <vzduch> greg: Hardy --> #ubuntu+1
[06:54] <greg> okay
[06:55] <sigma> hardy is still under construction, expect alot of broken things!
[06:56]  * Daisuke-Ido grumbles about wine and photoshop
[06:56] <Daisuke-Ido> and the first person to say gimp gets a boot to the head
[06:57] <epimeth> gimp!
[06:57] <snarkster> yah I know, but knetwork manager and gnome manager are almost the same
[06:57] <snarkster> gimp ;)
[06:57]  * Daisuke-Ido waggles a finger
[06:57] <Daisuke-Ido> boot to the head
[06:57] <snarkster> :P
[06:58] <epimeth> snarkster: yea, so I figure I'll create my own conf files, maybe... just dunno where they are kept or what they look like... tho they are probably identical to the regular vpnc ones
[06:58] <snarkster> gimp is awesome
[06:58] <epimeth> hay!  that was supposed to be *my* boot!
[06:58] <epimeth> gimme!
[06:58] <Daisuke-Ido> and another one for epimeth
[06:58] <epimeth> w00t!
[06:58]  * epimeth is happy
[06:58]  * epimeth has always wanted a headboot
[06:59]  * epimeth puts it on backwards
[06:59] <Daisuke-Ido> the scary thing is that you probably know what i'm talking about >_>
[06:59] <serga> !mp3
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:59] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: about photoshop, no... but grumbling about wine is a favorite pasttime of mine
[07:00] <Daisuke-Ido> no, about the boot to the head thing
[07:01] <Daisuke-Ido> yeah, CS2 loads fine
[07:01] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: maybe... what *are* you talking about?
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> a canadian comedy troupe did a bit about the reading of a rich man's will
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> and some enterprising second-person potato decided to add graphics from the phoenix wright game
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> ...i mean youtuber
[07:03] <dgeorge> hello all i have a few questions
[07:03] <dgeorge> anyone around at the moment
[07:03] <Daisuke-Ido> and i have even fewer answers
[07:03] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: Kids in the Hall (or something like that)/
[07:03] <snarkster> nah no one here
[07:03] <dgeorge> how do i add a wireless network montior to the menu bar
[07:03] <dgeorge> and how do i add gmail to the menu bar
[07:04] <snarkster> kids in the hall was an awesome show when i was a teen
[07:04] <Daisuke-Ido> actually it was the frantics
[07:05] <Daisuke-Ido> the menu bar?  are we talking about the same desktop environment here?
[07:06] <snarkster> epimeth: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2006-June/000008.html
[07:06] <epimeth> Daisuke-Ido: right... sorry. not a clue :-)
[07:06] <dgeorge> yes kde
[07:07] <dgeorge> how do i add gmail to it
[07:09] <epimeth> snarkster: are you kidding? those posts are almost 2 years old and these things aren't fixed yet?
[07:09] <epimeth> grrrr
[07:10] <epimeth> dgeorge: add gmail to kde?  you just go to gmail.com.....
[07:10] <epimeth> gmail is a web app, not a desktop app
 whataya want?? im just doing searches to assist you. LOL
[07:11] <dgeorge> ok then why have i seen screen shots of the gmail icon up in the upper right corner of the screen
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: fancy work with ms paint
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> next question please!
[07:11] <dgeorge> daisuke that is not helpful
[07:11] <snarkster> goto kde-apps
[07:12] <dgeorge> next willing helper
[07:12] <snarkster> do a search for gmail notifier I think
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[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: i'm perfectly willing to help someone who's not belligerent
[07:12] <snarkster> Im still baffled by the lack of a /etc/release
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> snarkster: it's in /etc/lsb-release
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> but yeah, i understand what you mean
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: just for reference, can you point me to one of those screenshots?  i'm curious to see if it's a notifier applet, or just a fancy link to mail.google.com
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, now i remember why i hate totem
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> it has no option on what to use for video rendering
[07:23] <snarkster> still cant get my damn webcam working either
[07:23] <snarkster> what a pain in the tookus
[07:28] <TeslaTony> Hello
[07:28] <dgeorge> is kde-apps down
[07:28] <snarkster> its something
[07:28] <ahmos> hello,I have aproblem here..I can't open adept manager because I have added a wrong repository as I think ..so how to delete it again..?!!
[07:28] <snarkster> kde-apps is a pain in the tookus
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> dgeorge: i think it must be, i was having trouble a few hours ago
[07:29] <noaXess> !dvr-ms
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvr-ms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <snarkster> just edit the repo list in /etc/apt
[07:30] <dgeorge> cool
[07:30] <dgeorge> i can't get on at all
[07:38] <ahmos> Thank's snarkster..I've fixed it ;)
[07:39] <internat85> Hi, with kde, how do i setup vnc so that i can connect to the existing session?
[07:42] <kiefer> Hey all :)
[07:43] <kiefer> Anyone alive?
[07:45] <snarkster> Ahmos: cool if I helped you
[07:46] <Taros> What's the command to tell which sda devices are what?
[07:49] <ere4si> mount Taros
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Taros: already mounted?
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> df -h
[07:51] <Taros> Yeah.
[07:55] <Taros> fdisk -l was what I was looking for, thanks.  :)
[08:16] <jester105> jamman105
[08:17] <kiefer> I need assistance, anyone home? :)
[08:17] <ahmos> hello, I've installe clamtk virus scanner and trid o update it ..but it aked me to be a root,so how I can do this plz?
[08:17] <jester105> kiefer: im here
[08:17] <jester105> ahmos: use sudo, ie "sudo freshclam"
[08:18] <ahmos> o yhank's
[08:18] <ahmos> ok thank's
[08:19] <ahmos> but is there another way...just too know
[08:19] <jester105> ahmos: log in as root? that could work, but.... you have to set the root password. ubuntu doesnt set up root as default
[08:21] <kiefer> Jester, Could you help me out?
[08:22] <jester105> kiefer: sure thing
[08:22] <kiefer> Cheers :), Heres my issue:
[08:22] <ahmos> Thank's alot Jester105
[08:22] <jester105> mhmmmm.... any time ahmos
[08:22] <kiefer> Im running Kubntu 7.10, installed it yesterday (Im a linux newb, migrated from WinXP ^_^)
[08:22] <ahmos> ;)
[08:23] <kiefer> and whenever I open a .deb file
[08:23] <kiefer> i click 'install' and it asks for my pass, which i enter, the PC slows down and lags up
[08:23] <kiefer> then the .deb installer reappears all greyed out
[08:23] <kiefer> and closes, without installing anything
[08:23] <jester105> hmmm....
[08:24] <jester105> kiefer: if all else fails, theres always the command line/terminal
[08:24] <kiefer> Lol, true
[08:24] <kiefer> But
[08:24] <kiefer> When I try to compile some things
[08:24] <kiefer> I get errors, errors that to me look like C++/C errors (stdio.h could nto be found etc)
[08:24] <kiefer> not*
[08:25] <kiefer> So im guessing im missing some header files lol :(
[08:25] <jester105> kiefer: ok, well... do you have the build-essentials package installed?
[08:25] <kiefer> Umm, not sure, I havnt installed it myself, so im guessing not
[08:25] <jester105> kiefer: yeah, install that and you should be good
[08:26] <freepenguin> now I've finally the page of ubuntu free penguin edition: http://www.freepenguin.it/ubuntufp-download-en.html
[08:26] <kiefer> jester: cheers, 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' ?
[08:27] <jester105> kiefer: exactly! haha... you're no noob, to be honest
[08:28] <kiefer> Haha, Im studying for a diploma in IT (Programming & Software Dev.) then moving onto a degree, so im fairly computer literate ^_^
[08:28] <jester105> freepenguin: checking out your site....
[08:28] <jester105> kiefer: thats awesome! that feild will nearly always bee there, i think
[08:28] <kiefer> Haha we can only hope
[08:28] <kiefer> Thanks for your advice mate :)
[08:29] <kiefer> Oh, one more thing
[08:29] <jester105> kiefer: shoot away
[08:29] <kiefer> Kopete always 'stops-responding' (Sorry for the Windows term lol) whenever i try to log in using MSN Protocol
[08:30] <jester105> what are your specs?
[08:30] <jester105> cause i noticed that on my 600 mhz p3 it would do that
[08:30] <kiefer> Acer travelmate 520 Laptop, Pent 2 800mhz (Dont laugh lol)
[08:30] <jester105> haha.... exactly! try using pidgin ( i know, i know.. ewwww....)
[08:30] <kiefer> Lmao, cheers
[08:31] <ahmos> hey Jester sorry but i still get tat there is no virus definitions are found when I open that program
[08:31] <jester105> ahmos: so you did the update definitions command?
[08:31] <ahmos> yes
[08:32] <ahmos> that u had sent to me
[08:32] <kiefer> jester: Uh-Oh.. "E: Couldn't find package build-essentials"
[08:33] <jester105> kiefer: i might've spelled it wrong
[08:33] <kiefer> Just googled it for 'did-you-mean'
[08:33] <kiefer> correct spelling lol
[08:33] <jester105> ahmos:  i was just guessing as to what it might be. im not 100% sure
[08:34] <jester105> kiefer: hmmmm.... well, in that case, i think you need to enable multiverse/etc
[08:35] <kiefer> 'build-essential' (No 's') got error "build-essential is already the newest version."
[08:35] <ahmos> could u take a look plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54431/
[08:36] <jester105> alright... kiefer i think that it looks like you have it installed already
[08:36] <jester105> ahmos: ok, so you are using clamav?
[08:37] <kiefer> Lol cheers jester, ill try compile something and ill let you know about the errors :)
[08:37] <ahmos> clamtk antivirus
[08:37] <jester105> kiefer: sounds good. if you have that package installed, it should take care of the hearders and such
[08:37] <jester105> ahmos: i dont know much about clamtk... try googling it
[08:38] <ahmos> ok ...thank's again... :o
[08:39] <jester105> ahmos: sure thing. i would google it myself, but im about to turn in
[08:40] <ahmos> god bless you
[08:40] <jester105> ahmos: anything for a fellow linux user :)
[08:40] <ubuntu> anyone familiar with KDE 4gusty?
[08:41] <ahmos> :0
[08:41] <jester105> ubuntu: meh..... so so
[08:41] <ubuntu> I got most the bugs out but want to configure Ati and not like any I have tried before
[08:42] <ubuntu> not sure I can
[08:42] <kiefer> Jester: are you familiar with FrostWire?
[08:42] <jester105> kiefer: ummmm.... not really. its a p2p program, right?
[08:43] <jester105> ubuntu: meaning? you wanna reconfigure x for resolution changes?
[08:43] <ahmos> I had a problem with frostwire yesterday and the strangest thing lime wire worked properly...ha ha...
[08:43] <ubuntu> jconfigure so it will have 3d and vidio out put
[08:43] <jester105> ahmos: hm.... thats quite odd. did you try running it from the terminal?
[08:43] <kiefer> Jester: Yeah p2p, I was just gonna ask if you knew where i could find the source to compile (No .deb files for me lol )
[08:43] <ubuntu> aticonfig seems to bedisconected
[08:44] <ahmos> yes and it was a problem of java
[08:44] <jester105> ubuntu: umm.... yeah, i havent ever used ati, to be honest
[08:44] <ol_dude67> kiefer, you can get the source from there website
[08:44] <ubuntu> I have played with many just not as much control on KDE 4
[08:44] <ubuntu> but it is one heck of a system
[08:44] <kiefer> dude: oh, cheers - Seems im going blind lol
[08:45] <ol_dude67> kiefer, i use slack alot and that is how you have to install it.
[08:45] <jester105> ubuntu: yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is the link you want
[08:46] <kiefer> Is there a terminal command to check java version?
[08:47] <jester105> java -v?
[08:47] <ol_dude67> na i just tried that .
[08:47] <kiefer> "hava --version"
[08:47] <kiefer> java*
[08:47] <kiefer> :)
[08:47] <kiefer> Lol, prob should have tried that before asking *slaps head*
[08:47] <ol_dude67> ya thats it i couldnt remember how i checked.
[08:48] <jester105> kiefer: see, now youre the one helping. hahaha
[08:48] <kiefer> Jester: hahaha, Im adapting to the Linux enviroment ^_^
[08:48] <ahmos> you can configure java by sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:49] <dsmith_> do I need to restart after I reinstall flash 9?
[08:49] <dsmith_> somehow flash got messed up
[08:49] <kiefer> ahmos:cheers :D
[08:49] <dsmith_> so I reinstalled it but its not working
[08:49] <jester105> dsmith_: hahaha.... no. just restart firefox and you'll be fine
[08:49] <dsmith_> thats what I did
[08:49] <dsmith_> I know haha
[08:49] <dsmith_> :)
[08:49] <dsmith_> hmmm
[08:49] <dsmith_> starnge
[08:49] <dsmith_> *strange
[08:49] <ahmos> thank's god I know something :D
[08:50] <jester105> dsmith_: well, log out and back in. or, just restart. haha...
[08:50] <dsmith_> typically I should never have to do that
[08:50] <ubuntu> ssure it is the right flash 9?
[08:50] <ubuntu> more than one
[08:50] <dsmith_> its the one that is installed from firefox
[08:50] <ubuntu> k
[08:50] <dsmith_> so I am assuming such
[08:50] <ubuntu> I have tried many before I get the one
[08:51] <kiefer> Argh, I keep getting a box pop up "unknown - KDE crash handler"  (the app. "unknown" [nspluginviewer], crashed and caused signal 11 [SIGSEGV])
[08:51] <ubuntu> check there aaare more
[08:51] <dsmith_> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115
[08:51] <ahmos> we all have those crash handlers
[08:51] <dsmith_> yea ts installed but youtube is not working darn
[08:52] <jester105> dsmith_: go to the terminal and run "sudo killall firefox"
[08:52] <kiefer> ahmos: do we? lmao - is a crash handler like 'not responding' ? (native Windows dweller at your service lol)
[08:53] <ubuntu> like a fuse
[08:53] <dsmith_> no proceses
[08:53] <dsmith_> none running in the background
[08:53] <ahmos> :D
[08:53] <noname> err... Hello, what archiving software is there for linux? I really don't like Ark much...
[08:54] <dsmith_> sbackup?
[08:54] <ere4si> tar.gz
[08:54] <dsmith_> well that too
[08:54] <kiefer> Brb all, Need a smoke lol - all this work is tiring me out >,<
[08:54] <noname> i mean not gui tools
[08:54] <noname> oh
[08:54] <noname> *gui tools*
[08:54] <noname> not console
[08:55] <jester105> noname: ummm.... yeah, ive got nothing for that.
[08:55] <jester105> there is.... keep, i think
[08:55] <ere4si> there's mondo and mindi
[08:55] <noname> thx i'll look for those
[08:55] <dbmood1> hello cupsys wants to use kerberos encryption anyway to turn that off ?
[08:55] <hola> is it possibile to join ppp0 to a bridge
[08:56] <jester105> hola: yes. how, im not 100% sure
[08:56] <dbmood1> and i'm not a root user
[08:56] <hola> jester105: i tried but it doesnt work
[08:57] <hola> jester105: my virtual machine does not see internet connection
[08:57] <jester105> hola: well, thats a setup in vmware or what not
[08:58] <hola> jester105: im using virualbox
[08:59] <jester105> ok, ummmm.... yeah, i dont know jack about virtual machines... all i know is that in the etherenet settings or what not, you can set up a bridge
[08:59] <ol_dude67> well i dont remember to much about setting up virtualbox. but i do know you can set changes like that in vmware.
[09:00] <ol_dude67> its been to long since i messed with virtualbox
[09:00] <jester105> ol_dude67: haha... i feel ya, i feel ya
[09:00] <hola> my ppp0 address is 192.168.100.1 and the br0 adress is 192.168.1.10
[09:02] <ahmos> hey jester kiefer bye for now....
[09:02] <jester105> ahmos: see ya
[09:02] <ahmos> r u here every day at this time jester?
[09:03] <jester105> ahmos: haha.... no, rarely this late. only on the weekends. its 2 am where i am. but i should be on this late tomarrow
[09:03] <ol_dude67> hola, that sounds about like my router settings.
[09:03] <ahmos> ok Good luck and i hope to meet u again..:D
[09:04] <ahmos> bye
[09:04] <jester105> ahmos: see ya
[09:05] <t_maus> hi guys, can somebody tell me how i can make my mailserver safe, because i think that somebody uses my mailserver as a spamserver ( and i am not happy about that ^^), so is there a chance to make my postfix safe ?
[09:05] <jester105> t_maus: i am thinking the same thing about mine as well
[09:06] <t_maus> and you dont have a solution ?
[09:06] <jester105> t_maus: wait, scratch that. i know i have iptables configured.... what you can do is set up your firewall to let only local traffic in.
[09:06] <jester105> like, 192.168.1.1/24 or what not
[09:06] <hola> ol_dude67: the problem is thet virtual machine does not see 192.168.100.1 but only the host adress 192.16.1.10, why
[09:06] <jester105> for your smtp server
[09:07] <t_maus> in the moment the server ist completly free ( without firewall ) that could be an idea so only the ports to open iam needing for the "daily work"
[09:09] <jester105> t_maus: wait, you have no firewall at all on it?
[09:09] <jester105> baaaaaaaadddddddddd plan!
[09:09] <t_maus> not on my webserver / mailserver
[09:09] <t_maus> i have a firewall on the router
[09:09] <t_maus> but i seems to be very open ;)
[09:09] <ol_dude67> halo, like i said its been forever since i have set up virtualbox but let me see if i can find you some help.
[09:10] <ol_dude67> halo, try asking in #virtualbox
[09:10] <ol_dude67> i just checked and there is a channel.
[09:11] <jester105> t_maus: yeah, be sure to set up iptables!
[09:11] <t_maus> k i will do it now :D
[09:12] <ol_dude67> ya that was the first thing i did on my router box was put in a firewall.
[09:13] <jester105> ol_dude67: not just on my router, but before i even plugged my server into an ethernet cable, i did it
[09:14] <ol_dude67> well i had to have help setting up my router box as i didnt know how to do it, so the guy who helped me showed me how to make a firewall as we were setting it up.
[09:14] <jester105> ol_dude67: i downloaded a script for my iptables :)
[09:15] <kadam> oh noes!  I just installed Kubuntu on a secondary drive.  When I rebooted it went to Windows, so in the bios I set it to boot to the Linux drive.  When I do that, I see GRUB, but it stops with an error 21.  Does anyone know how to fix this or what it means?
[09:15] <ol_dude67> well i had to have ipforwarding for my 2 desktops, and all so i started fresh with mine.
[09:16] <jester105> ol_dude67: ipforwarding? like, sharing the same ip?
[09:16] <ol_dude67> but i learned alot about firewalls that way.
[09:16] <ol_dude67> ya i have 3 boxes and one just is a router.
[09:16] <jester105> kadam: i would say..... switch back to the windows one? i dunno
[09:18] <kadam> jester105: Do you know how I'd install GRUB on the Windows drive?  It's a hardware RAID0 array...
[09:18] <jester105> hmm.... let me seee..... ummmm... get the alternate cd, and boot into it
[09:18] <jester105> go to the last step in the menu thingy, and install grub that way
[09:19] <jester105> if that made sense
[09:19] <ol_dude67> kadam, chances are you should of installed grub to the boot drive anyways.
[09:20] <jester105> kadam: actually, to be honest, id just reinstall. it would work better that way, i think
[09:20] <ol_dude67> jester105, it made sense to me.:D
[09:20] <jester105> ol_dude67: thats probably cause you've done it before! hahaha
[09:20] <ol_dude67> ya i have.lmao
[09:20] <kadam> ol_dude67: I dont' know if it was an option to select another drive.  I actually hoped I could just install to the new drive and make IT the new bootable drive 8)
[09:21] <kadam> so, hda0...
[09:21] <jester105> kadam: you can, but you have to select that drive to have grub install it to
[09:22] <kadam> jester105: Alright.  I'll just reinstall tomorrow morning and install GRUB to the MBR.  I'm jsut scared 8) hehe...  I need Windows for work... blegh...
[09:22] <kadam> alright, well, until then, good night!
[09:22] <jester105> kadam: if all else fails, theres always your xp cd that you can use and "FIXMBR"
[09:23] <kadam> jester105: You mean, if installing GRUB to my main drive causes issues?
[09:23] <ol_dude67> kadam, yeah,
[09:23] <jester105> kadam: exactly. if you do that, then boot into the recovery thing, you can just fix the mbr. as the command suggests
[09:23] <ol_dude67> my tab key sucks, it wont let me do the short cut.
[09:24] <kadam> Beautiful, thanks again!
[09:24] <jester105> kadam: no problem
[09:24] <jester105> k guys, its been grand chatting, but i need to go now!
[09:24] <jester105> haha... i can hardly keep my eyes open
[09:24] <hyper__ch> anyone knows why miro quits with this error?  /usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor
[09:24] <ol_dude67> laters
[09:26] <sigma_1234> sounds like a bug. miro is still under development
[09:26] <hyper__ch> seems it runs for others :(
[09:27] <ol_dude67> i was gonna say i dont know a dang thing about java other then i have it.
[09:28] <dsmith__> yea something is wrong with flash on my system, I went so far as to pull a backup and install it and its still not working
[09:28] <sigma_1234> i didnt know it used java
[09:28] <sigma_1234> !flash
[09:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[09:28] <hyper__ch> there's a uuforums thread
[09:29] <sigma_1234> i think flash only works in hardy
[09:29] <sigma_1234> how do i set arial as my fixed width font?
[09:30] <ol_dude67> sigma_1234, thats not true, i did the update for the flash on mine and its working and im on gutsy
[09:31] <sigma_1234> oh i dont use flash so i really wouldnt know
[09:32] <ol_dude67> well i might of installed mine by hand before the update i dont remember.it may still be broken.
[09:33] <hyper__ch> I read on uuforums flash is fixed again in the repos (the gpg key)
[09:33] <ol_dude67> ok then i was right..lol
[09:34] <ol_dude67> dsmith_, does it give you an error?
[09:34] <ol_dude67> oh well
[09:35] <dsmith__> no
[09:35] <dsmith__> did they make changes to flash?
[09:35] <ol_dude67> oh i thought you logout.
[09:35] <dsmith__> why all of a sudden it does not work
[09:35] <dsmith__> I did earlier
[09:35] <dsmith__> then did a restore of plugins in .mozilla
[09:37] <dsmith__> hmmm flash doesn't work on either fx or konq
[09:37] <dsmith__> qtf
[09:37] <dsmith__> Wtf
[09:39] <NickPresta> !flash | dsmith__
[09:39] <ubotu> dsmith__: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[09:42] <dsmith__> I am going to purge flash
[09:42] <xenobius> heya
[09:43] <xenobius> i'm shopping for a linux compatable vid card... i was wondering, does anyone have any idea how to determine relative speed of graphics acceleration ?
[09:44]  * ScorpKing waves..
[09:44] <dsmith__> xenobius: stick with nvidia
[09:44] <sub[t]rnl> heya ScorpKing
[09:44] <ScorpKing> :) hiya sub[t]rnl
[09:45] <dsmith__> now whats is better install the flash plugin from firefox? or from the repos?
[09:46] <ScorpKing> !sound > me
[09:47] <ScorpKing> dsmith__: i've installed it from firefox
[09:50] <dsmith__> ok
[09:51] <iltse> hi, i'm having a problem installing the fglrx drivers. no matter the way i install them (with envy, with adept or well basically any of the suggestions in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI i always end up in the situation that when i reboot the system hangs when x starts, and before you say "try ctrl+alt+Fx" those don't do anything. the system is
[09:51] <dsmith__> i've never had this much trouble before
[09:51] <iltse>  completely unresponsive and the only thing to do is to reboot again to recovery and reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[09:53] <val0> are there hd management tools that will allow me to delete a ntfs partion and then join it with the linux one?
[09:58] <sui> hi
[09:59] <jussi01> val0: as long as you dont want to keep the data
[10:01] <val0> jussi01: nope, going to join the partitions and run vm machine
[10:01] <sigma> which file in /etc/ stores the configuration for a wireless network?
[10:01] <val0> just wondering if there is a tool like partition magic
[10:01] <jussi01> val0: qparted
[10:01] <jussi01> !info qparted
[10:01] <ubotu> Package qparted does not exist in gutsy
[10:01] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[10:01] <ubotu> qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[10:01] <jussi01> there we are
[10:03] <dsmith__> ok I got flash working agin
[10:03] <dsmith__> I had to dl'd from the adobe website
[10:04] <dsmith__> http://benjaminlim.net/blog/?p=15
[10:04] <dsmith__> that explains it
[10:04] <dsmith__> sorta
[10:04] <jussi01> dsmith__: you do know there is a .deb that works on the forums, as well as a use at your own risk in the -proposed repo?
[10:04] <jussi01> !flash
[10:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[10:04] <dsmith__> i tried all that
[10:05] <jussi01> dsmith__: even the update in the -proposed repository?
[10:05] <dsmith__> something's changed from yesterday to tonight with flash I dont know what it is, but youtube was working last night
[10:05] <dsmith__> no
[10:05] <dsmith__> i got it working now
[10:06] <dsmith__> thanks for the help
[10:06] <dsmith__> I will retry the .drb though
[10:06] <dsmith__> .deb, on a new install
[10:07] <dsmith__> i'd hate to be setting up a clients PC and have to explain to them that their *buntu box dont work with flash
[10:09] <anarko> d1 a todos
[10:11] <val0> jussi01: thanks :D
[10:11] <sigma> but the flash download from adobe.com works just fine
[10:16] <kaminix> Will there be ways to convert the KWordQuiz vocab files to Parley when it's done?
[10:17] <kaminix> * when I install KDE 4
[10:21] <hari> .
[10:21] <vzduch> ..
[10:21] <jpatrick> morning gentlemen and ladies!
[10:22] <jpatrick> that would of been bettter the other way round..
[10:22] <kaminix> I would have :p
[10:22] <JoshOvki> morning jpatrick. you seem i an awfully good mood
[10:23] <jpatrick> JoshOvki: better than ".", ".." ;)
[10:23] <dsmith_> hmmmm only certain videos on youtube will play
[10:23] <JoshOvki> its morning, how can anyone be happy in the morning!
[10:23] <vzduch> *gg*
[10:23]  * dsmith_ is clueless
[10:23] <dsmith_> :/
[10:24] <jpatrick> dsmith_: it must be testing your taste
[10:24] <JoshOvki> dsmithL do all other sites that use flash work ok?
[10:25] <kaminix> Open XML file format (shared with KWordQuiz, Kanagram and KHangMan) that can be edited by hand and is easily usable with scripts <--- means I can use KWordQuiz files with Parley?
[10:25] <dsmith_> ummmm whats another heavy flash site?
[10:25] <dsmith_> jpatrick: haha
[10:25] <JoshOvki> dsmith_ ummm, you in the uk?
[10:26] <jpatrick> JoshOvki: america by the looks of his hostname
[10:26] <dsmith_> USA
[10:26] <dergringo> hi
[10:26] <JoshOvki> i was going to suggest   www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer   but i think its UK only
[10:27] <JoshOvki> is google video's still alive?
[10:27] <dergringo> I heard that hardy comes along with kde4. Fine. But the pre releases still install kde3 per default. Will that be changed? Will hardy come with kde4 enabled?
[10:28] <jpatrick> dergringo: it's the target for the next alpha
[10:29] <dergringo> jpatrick: ahh I see. Thanks :)
[10:29] <JoshOvki> i was going to try hardy not long ago, but there was a problem with my download which ment i couldnt access anything
[10:30] <dsmith_> google video seems to play fine
[10:30] <JoshOvki> dsmith_: so its just youtube :s   try clearing cache, and was browser you using?
[10:31] <dsmith_> firefox
[10:33] <dsmith_> let me check, but clearing the cach e mau have worked
[10:34] <dsmith_> yep, that worked thanks
[10:34] <dsmith_> JoshOvki:
[10:34] <dsmith_> I've had issues with cache in firefox before, but nothing like that
[10:34] <dsmith_> wow
[10:34] <dsmith_> so it was never a flash issue at all
[10:34] <JoshOvki> dsmith_  working ok now then?:)
[10:35] <dsmith_> yep
[10:36] <JoshOvki> excelent news
[10:36] <JoshOvki> brb all
[10:36] <dsmith_> i was thinking something else
[10:40] <JoshOvki> miss me?
[10:40] <kiefer> Hey all :)
[10:45] <jono> hey
[10:46] <jpatrick> hi jono
[10:46] <jono> hey jpatrick
[10:47] <jono> hows it going?
[10:47] <jpatrick> jono: not bad at all
[10:47] <jussi01> gday jono  :)
[10:48] <jpatrick> got some packages in Debian yesterday
[10:48] <jono> heya jussi01
[10:49] <jono> :)
[10:51] <kiefer> Hrmm my wireless signal keeps dropping out, and my wireless base is right next to me :S
[10:51] <Hobbsee> hi jono
[10:51] <jono> hey Hobbsee
[10:52]  * Hobbsee disagrees with your blog post.
[10:52] <enry> hello
[10:52] <jussi01> !hi | enry
[10:52] <ubotu> enry: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:53] <kiefer> Hehe in 'Jonny English' they make August the 5th a national holiday, thats my b-day ^_^
[10:53] <jpatrick> !ot > kiefer
[10:53] <sebastian^> good morning all
[10:54] <kiefer> jpatric: Understood :)
[10:54] <kiefer> jpatrick*
[10:55] <cxd110> hello
[10:55] <ibou> hi
[10:55] <kiefer> Can anyone suggest a good python IDE?
[10:56] <ibou> hi
[10:56] <kiefer> Hello :)
[10:56] <jussi01> kiefer: eclipse
[10:56] <cxd110> eclipse
[10:56] <Jucato> !find eric
[10:56] <ubotu> Found: gnumeric, gnumeric-common, gnumeric-doc, gnumeric-gtk, gnumeric-plugins-extra (and 43 others)
[10:56] <Jucato> hm...
[10:56] <kiefer> Eclipse has a Python plugin?
[10:56] <jussi01> !info eclipse | kiefer
[10:56] <ubotu> kiefer: eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:56] <jussi01> kiefer: certainly does
[10:56] <kiefer> Ah well, cheers
[10:56] <jussi01> :)
[10:56] <Jucato> !info eric
[10:56] <ubotu> eric (source: eric): full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.5-1 (gutsy), package size 1907 kB, installed size 11460 kB
[10:56] <kiefer> ive been using Eclipse for 6 odd months for Java
[10:57] <kiefer> Anyone suggest a good python newb tutorial?
[10:58] <Jucato> !info diveintopython
[10:58] <cxd110> who is from china???
[10:58] <ubotu> diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[10:58] <Jucato> bah not newb...
[10:58] <kiefer> Lol, no that sounds perfecr
[10:58] <kiefer> perfect*
[10:58] <kiefer> I know C, C++, and Java, so im partially experienced lol
[10:58] <sigma> can kubuntu access wireless networks that require a 28 digit access key to join?
[11:00] <kiefer> Umm, is Adept Installer like Add/Remove [Ubuntu] for Kubuntu? (Me=Linux newb :) )
[11:00] <Jucato> yep
[11:00] <kiefer> Is there a way to un-gey-out the yet-to-be-installed packages?
[11:01] <kiefer> grey*
[11:02] <sigma> !wep
[11:02] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:02] <kiefer> Dont worry, Figured out what im doing with Adept
[11:03] <kiefer> WEP = Weak & Unsecure.
[11:05] <sigma> kiefer: how do you setup kubuntu for WPA if the network manager only accepts WEP keys?
[11:06] <kiefer> dont use NetworkManager
[11:07] <kiefer> (Im fairly new to Linux - I wouldnt recomend asking me for advice)
[11:08] <sigma> !info wpasupplicant
[11:08] <ubotu> wpasupplicant (source: wpasupplicant): Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 648 kB
[11:09] <kiefer> Ty sigma :)
[11:09] <sui> theres a good howto on the web
[11:10] <sigma> sui: you mean this one? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu#head-eb83784f0d238e9fd0de695f90911e4ceea4b7e5
[11:13] <sui> sigma: oh, that's a good one too ;) i used a german howto on ubuntuusers.de  (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/wpa_supplicant)
[11:14] <iltse> hi, could someone help me with the fglrx drivers? getting a bit frustrated with them.
[11:15] <jussi01> iltse: have you followed the instructions under !ati ?
[11:15] <jussi01> !ati
[11:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:16] <iltse> yes
[11:16] <iltse> even tried with envy and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[11:17] <iltse> the problem is that every time fglrx drivers are enabled the system hangs at the point where i should get the login screen
[11:18] <odra> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:19] <odra> hi t00r
[11:21] <JoshOvki> i have got myself addicted to a KDE4 game, called   knetwalk
[11:22] <ibou> what does mplayer-nogui add to kmplayer ?
[11:22] <JoshOvki> it allows you to control songs through terminal
[11:22] <ibou> oh ok
[11:22] <JoshOvki> hence the  "nogui" at then end  (gui = graphical user iterface)
[11:23] <ibou> ah ok thanks
[11:23] <JoshOvki> :)
[11:23] <ibou> :D
[11:33] <sigma> where does kubuntu store WEP network keys?
[11:36] <d_mitry> what is the command to mount an ntfs partition?
[11:37] <ubuntu> could somebody please tell me how to remove kubuntu from my computer because i took 150gb for it from my harddrive
[11:37] <ere4si> ubuntu: you just format the drive
[11:37] <ubuntu> but does that mean i loose windows too_
[11:37] <ubuntu> ?
[11:38] <ere4si> ubuntu: just format the partition with ubuntu and swap on it
[11:38] <slow-motion> hi
[11:38] <ubuntu> okay:)
[11:38] <ubuntu> how do i do that btw?
[11:39] <zxy_64> hi, which repository do i need to install ia32-libs-gtk  on 64bit 7.10 kubuntu -- adept doesn't see it
[11:39] <ere4si> ubuntu: put your windows disk in and restart - it will let you format the partitions
[11:39] <ubuntu> okay cool i will do that, thanks
[11:40] <ere4si> zxy_64, I would enable universe and multiverse in synaptic
[11:41] <zxy_64> why synptic, is adept not ok
[11:41] <zxy_64> i don't really like mixing tools
[11:42]  * zxy_64 trying ...
[11:43] <zxy_64> ere4si: i have this epos alredy checked out
[11:43] <zxy_64> epos/repos
[11:44] <ere4si> you can search in synaptic or apt for it zxy_64  - apt-cache search (application) I think
[11:45] <romunov> can anyone notice any abnormalities? http://pastebin.com/d68fd20bb
[11:46] <romunov> should the first line be hashed out like that?
[11:46] <romunov> could this be the reason why i have login issues?
[11:46] <romunov> the system gives me a kinit error and goes into the console
[11:46] <romunov> i can startx from there
[11:46] <romunov> but still, it's a hassle, and i can't power down the pc without first going into the console
[11:47] <Sbucatone> i have i little question, my pc became very hot (75 degree celsius) and then fan starts ...it's normal ?
[11:47] <zxy_64> it's not in
[11:47] <zxy_64> ere4si: ^^
[11:47] <FLameBird> any tweaks to make this baby run faster?
[11:48] <ere4si> zxy_64, are you sure your spelling it right?
[11:48] <kiefer> can anyone direct me to a good beginers guide to Kubuntu/Linux in general? for windows users if possible?
[11:48] <kiefer> ex-windows users*
[11:49] <jussi01> kiefer: Id start on the help.ubuntu.com site
[11:49] <kiefer> jussi01:Thanks :)
[11:50] <Sbucatone> kiefer: start with wiki
[11:50] <Sbucatone> !wiki
[11:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[11:50] <Jucato> !docs
[11:50] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:50] <kiefer> Thanks, I'll be sure to read up :D
[11:50] <ere4si> kiefer, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[11:50] <FLameBird> where can I configure services on Kubuntu?
[11:51] <zxy_64> ere4si: yup, i entered "ia32" and got 3 ia32 (java) pkgs,   ia32-libs (installed) and ia32-libs-kde (not installed)
[11:51] <kiefer> ere4si: cheers :)
[11:51] <zxy_64> but not ia32-libs-gtk
[11:52] <ere4si> zxy_64, I'll check elsewhere for it
[11:52] <FLameBird> where can I configure services on Kubuntu?
[11:52] <jussi01> !repeat | FLameBird
[11:52] <ubotu> FLameBird: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:52] <jussi01> FLameBird: what do you mean by services?
[11:53] <FLameBird> systems services jussi01
[11:53] <jussi01> FLameBird: be more specific?
[11:53] <Sbucatone> Jucato: i have very important question, i have a toshiba laptop , well sometime i see my pc laptop and i can see 75 celsius degree..then fan starts, is it normal ?
[11:53] <ere4si> zxy_64, looks like it is a package that stopped at feisty
[11:54] <FLameBird> jussi01: services like cups
[11:54] <Jucato> Sbucatone: um. sorry.. not really good with laptops
[11:54] <ere4si> zxy_64, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/ia32-libs-gtk
[11:54] <zxy_64> damned
[11:54] <zxy_64> i wantet to make flash work somehow
[11:54] <jussi01> FLameBird: in system settings?
[11:55] <FLameBird> jussi01: not there
[11:55] <jussi01> !flashissues > zxy_64
[11:55] <TimS> Jucato, how can I get gmail-notify to open on startup? I think I have to link it to somewhere
[11:55] <jussi01> FLameBird: for cups, go to http://localhost:631 in your browser
[11:55] <Jucato> !austostart | TimS
[11:55] <jussi01> !autostart | TimS
[11:55] <ubotu> TimS: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about austostart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <Jucato> lol sorry :)
[11:56] <FLameBird> Now that is going to take a long time if i want to do it one by one jussi01
[11:56] <Jucato> fat fingers :)
[11:56]  * jussi01 wins
[11:56] <FLameBird> I am trying to speed up my system here
[11:56] <TimS> Thanks =]
[11:56] <jussi01> FLameBird: cups is for printing...
[11:56] <ere4si> zxy_64, have you tried the shockwave flash plugin at mozilla?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Gee My Linux boxs all boot so fast its amazing. :) even with all these services
[11:56] <Jucato> FLameBird: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services ?
[11:56] <flipstar> FLameBird: there a no really unneedet services in *ubuntu
[11:56] <Sbucatone> Jucato: you mean you don't know enought for laptop problems?
[11:56] <Jucato> Sbucatone: yep
[11:57] <FLameBird> jussi01: it does take lots of memory
[11:57] <FLameBird> flipstar: oh there sure are
[11:57] <FLameBird> Jucato: cant find it there mate
[11:57] <kiefer> is there a way for me to install 'GNU gettext' through Konsole?
[11:57] <Jucato> FLameBird: which one can't you find?
[11:57] <Jucato> kiefer: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[11:57] <Dr_willis> Hmm. How do you even determins how much memory cups is using.
[11:57] <Jucato> (maybe sudo apt-get install gettext)
[11:57] <FLameBird> Jucato: advanced tab
[11:57] <zxy_64> ere4si: i just got a private message it's comming (still in  some proposed-for-testing stage though)
cheers,  what would the package name be?
[11:58] <Jucato> FLameBird: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[11:58] <Jucato> !info gettext
[11:58] <ubotu> gettext (source: gettext): GNU Internationalization utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6460 kB
[11:58] <Jucato> kiefer: ^^^
[11:58] <kiefer> cheers mate :)
[11:58] <FLameBird> Jucato: hardy
[11:58] <Jucato> hm.. it should be there. do you have kde-guidance installed?
[11:59] <ere4si> zxy_64, I've had it for ages on a 32 bit sys
[11:59] <TimS> CUPS is trademarked by Apple?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> Apple is one of the supporters of cups i recall.. they may be a bigger partner then what i thought. :)
[12:00] <zxy_64> ere4si: i have it on other distro but her i'll have to wait (all amd64 64bit)
[12:00] <TimS> Anyone know what port dies PHPMyAdmin run on?
[12:00] <TimS> does*
[12:00] <ere4si> zxy_64, is the os there the 64 one?
[12:00] <jussi01> TimS: apple owns cups
[12:00] <flipstar> FLameBird: kde3 or kde4 under kde3 there are definitve under systemsetting->advanced->services
[12:00]  * TimS uninstalls
[12:00] <kiefer> jucato: i try 'sudo apt-get install gettext' and it says 'gettext-base libc6-dev' replaces it, i try to get 'gettext-base libc6-dev' and it says i have the newest version, but pidgin installer says i dont, any ideas?
[12:00] <zxy_64> ere4si: yup
[12:00] <FLameBird> flipstar: Kde3
[12:01] <FLameBird> and its not there!
[12:01] <ere4si> Common Unix Printing System - cups
[12:01] <Dr_willis> cups.org for their homepage. :)
[12:01] <flipstar> FLameBird: did you removed some kde3 packages ?
[12:02] <flipstar> else you could try rcconf
[12:02] <flipstar> or sysv-rc-conf
[12:02] <flipstar> these are console apps
[12:02] <FLameBird> flipstar: nothing at all its a new installation
[12:02] <flipstar> alpha4 ?
[12:02] <FLameBird> yeah
[12:03] <flipstar> hmn didnt tested it yet
[12:03] <Dr_willis> !find sysv
[12:03] <ubotu> Found: sysv-rc, sysvinit, sysvutils, upstart-compat-sysv, ksysv (and 5 others)
[12:03] <FLameBird> screw it I am getting ubuntu 7.10
[12:03] <flipstar> maybe you'll check you #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <kiefer> i try 'sudo apt-get install gettext' and it says 'gettext-base libc6-dev' replaces it, i try to get 'gettext-base libc6-dev' and it says i have the newest version, but pidgin installer says i dont, any ideas? anyone?
[12:03] <TimS> We heard the first time. Chances are, the installer is silleh
[12:03] <Dr_willis> what pidgin installer?
[12:04] <sui> kiefer: why dont you install pidgin with the package manager?
[12:04] <kiefer> package manager always freezes for some reason
[12:04] <TimS> Are you using a deb?
[12:05] <kiefer> nah, compiling source (so ot install, my bad)
[12:05] <kiefer> not*
[12:05] <Dr_willis> I just totally got confused by the logic of that statement.. about the freezing...
[12:05] <kiefer> Lmao, .deb's always freeze for some reason
[12:05] <Dr_willis> I think theres a deeper issue going on here then. :)
[12:05] <kiefer> Haha
[12:05] <kiefer> Lets hope not
[12:06] <Dr_willis> If the apt-get system is freezing up your machine.. You proberly should be focusing on fixing that.
[12:06] <kiefer> not the apt-get, that works (moderatly, lol) - Just the gui package manager
[12:06] <Dr_willis> it maybe related to your other problem about the libx-dev issues
[12:07] <ibou> i want kmplayer to be my default player instead of kaffeine. How should i do that ?
[12:07] <anton> How can i get flash to work in Mozilla firefox? Ive installed the plugin but it still doesnt work and i don like gnash =(
[12:08] <flipstar> anton: did you restarted firefox ?
[12:08] <ibou> anton take the old version
[12:08] <kiefer> anton: this might sound stupid, but did you re-start firefox?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> Konqueror settings -> file assoucations -> set it for the various video files.
[12:08] <TheSandman> how do i install mp3 support for amarok?
[12:08] <anton> yea and it still doesnt work.
[12:08] <anton> TheSandman that is automaticly asked for when u add a mp3
[12:08] <kiefer> did you use the firefox plugin installer?
[12:09] <flipstar> is it listed in about:plugins anton ?
[12:09] <TheSandman> well yes
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Konqueror -> settings --> configure Konqueror -->  File Associations.            There we go.
[12:09] <anton> ok ill check =)
[12:09] <TheSandman> but it still says that the files aren't supported
[12:10] <kiefer> Sometimes the firefox plugin installer doesnt actually install the plugin, (well in my experience anyway), so you might try downloading it yourself and installing it :)
[12:10] <ibou> Dr_willis: i guess you answered to me
[12:10] <anton> Ok im downloading it now =D
[12:10] <kiefer> Let us know how it goes :)
[12:10] <kiefer> Brb i need a coffee
[12:13] <ibou> Dr_willis: thanks.
[12:14] <Dr_willis> :) Kubuntu handles file assoications so much nicer then this... Other Os.. i often have to use.. :P
[12:15] <kiefer> Back :)
[12:16] <ibou> now i want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?
[12:16] <enzo> which tools do you use to check your mails Dr_willis ?
[12:16] <anton> Right so im in konq trying to move the .so file for the flashplayer to the mozilla plugin folder. but then i get acces denied =(
[12:16] <ibou> anton do it in konsole
[12:16] <enzo> with thunderbird i have many problem for file associations Dr_willis
[12:16] <ibou> with sudo
[12:16] <kiefer> anton: us 'sudo cp <file location> <file destination>'
[12:17] <kiefer> use*
[12:17] <anton> Ahh thanks =D
[12:17] <kiefer> np :)
[12:17] <ibou> enzo why using thunderbird? kmail uis just so great
[12:17] <ibou> <== troll
[12:17] <enzo> with spam,  and imap folders ibou ?
[12:18] <ibou> yes
[12:18] <enzo> ok gonna try again, maybe after years it's better
[12:19] <ibou> i love kmail
[12:19] <ibou> u can set more things than in gmail
[12:19] <ibou> like the sliper folder
[12:19] <ibou> which czn be one of your imap folders
[12:20] <ibou> perfect for gmail users
[12:21] <ibou> I want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> enzo,  I only use the various web-mail sites
[12:22] <enzo> ibou: you have no problem with file association while opening mail attachments in kmail ?
[12:25] <ibou> enzo: kmail is the default mlyail client on kde. So file association is already set perfect
[12:25] <enzo> ok
[12:25] <enzo> and to surf, you use konqueror ibou ?
[12:29] <anton> Right im a linux newb so this question is kinda lame. How do i get root acces?
[12:30] <kiefer> depends, (im also a linux noob) what are you trying to do if its via konsole, just use 'sudo <command to run as root>'
[12:30] <anton> Im trying to move a .so file for a flash plugin and since i fail at terminal im gonna need to be root user i think :P
[12:31] <Dr_willis> sudo cp whatever wheever
[12:31] <kiefer> you can do that via konsole: "sudo cp <file> <destination>"
[12:31] <Dr_willis> I cheat  and use a fixed flash deb i found on the !flash factoid :)
[12:32] <anton> Right now i tried that and i didnt work =( are the > supposed to be there?
[12:32] <kiefer> no, dont have the <'s
[12:32] <anton> k
[12:32] <Dr_willis> anton,  NO. those are just shing an example
[12:32] <anton> right
[12:32] <kiefer> e.g.: "sudo cp file.deb /etc/network"
[12:34] <anton> YES
[12:35] <anton> It worked
[12:35] <anton> thanks a lot guys =D
[12:35] <kiefer> Hehe, Good job :) your welcome
[12:35] <kiefer> Does anyone know if an alternate .deb package installer exists?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> kiefer,  Huh. You mean a replace ment for apt-get and dpkg?
[12:37] <kiefer> Dr_Willis: umm (me=linux nub :] ) like, you know when you open a .deb file
[12:37] <kiefer> the dialog that appears
[12:37] <Dr_willis> No idea on what one opens. I dont douibleclick on debs. :)
[12:37] <kiefer> it always freezes. meaning i cant install using .deb files
[12:37] <Dr_willis> I install them with 'sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb'
[12:38] <kiefer> oh, maybe that will fix my problem, is that the way to doit without using the gui?
[12:38] <Dr_willis> That is how you install a deb package from the shell... yes...
[12:38] <Dr_willis> as for fixing your problem.. no idea on that
[12:38] <kiefer> Oh, Cheers, you just helped me more than you think ^_^
[12:39] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[12:39] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:39] <Dr_willis> This is covered in the basic apt-get docs. :) and guides
[12:39] <kiefer> Cheers mate :D
[12:40] <kiefer> is it packages.ubuntu.com to view packages?
[12:40] <enzo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ kiefer
[12:40] <Dr_willis> thats a web based package search site.. theres other ways
[12:40] <Dr_willis> enter apt:// in konqueror :)
[12:41] <kiefer> enzo/dr_willis: thanks fella's :)
[12:41] <Dr_willis> oops apt:/
[12:41] <Dr_willis> just 1 slash
[12:41] <kiefer> Lol okay
[12:44] <enzo> i can use apt-get update and then aptitude upgrade in kubuntu ?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> kubuntu uses the same  apt system as ubuntu. so yes.
[12:45] <enzo> ok
[12:45] <Jucato> technically, yes... but why not just aptitude update too?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> ive had issues in the past with aptitude.... :)
[12:45] <Jucato> although afaik, aptitude's magic doesn't work 100% if you don't use aptitude update first
[12:46] <Dr_willis> I had aptitude try to remove and then reinstall 200+ packages at one time befor. :) i dont trust it any more
[12:48] <enzo> aptitude is better than any other tool
[12:48] <enzo> so if aptitude has problem, so has synoptic/adept
[12:49] <LinaLove> quick question: suggestions for a ftp client using kubuntu besides KFTPGrabber and gFTP which both hung up on my connection to several servers whilst listing
[12:49] <Dr_willis> aptitude tries to do more.. and in my case it tried to do too much. :)
[12:49] <Jucato> LinaLove: tried Konqueror?
[12:50] <sui> yeah, konqueror is quite good for anything
[12:51] <sui> :)
[12:51] <enzo> i have nvidia card and 2 screens, how can i configure my dual screen, there is a special tool to do that ?
[12:51] <Jucato> !dual
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <Jucato> !dualhead
[12:52] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:52] <Dr_willis> I use the nvidia config tools to enable my 2 monitors
[12:52] <enzo> which prog is it Dr_willis ?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Install the nvidia drivers, then   its.. Hmm.. sudo nvid<tab> :)
[12:52] <Dr_willis> nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig
[12:53] <Dr_willis> one of those 2 has a gui config.
[12:53] <enzo> nvidia-settings => core dump
[12:54] <Dr_willis> Thats a bad sign.
[12:55] <LinaLove> thanks for the tipp Jucato :)
[13:00] <ibou> I want to have kmplayer plugin instead of kaffeine plugin in konqueror. I installed kmplayer-konq-plugins but i always have kaffeine plugin in konqueror. How to change this?
[13:01] <Jucato> ibou: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> look for the video type (type in the search box) and in the Embedding tab for that file type, put embedded mplayer at the top of the list
[13:02]  * Dr_willis never noticed the embedding tab befor
[13:03] <Dr_willis> Aha! theres the setting thats making .divx files play wrongly in the browser. :)
[13:06] <LinaLove> anyone knows why the sound isn't working on kubuntu with my card allthough having made some alsa drivers?
[13:07] <elvirolo> the kopete "now listening" module doesn't seem to be working with amarok and kde 4
[13:09] <ibou> linalove what is your machine ?
[13:10] <LinaLove> a 3 year old 512mb ram amd with a really weird soundcard :]
[13:10] <ibou> linalove you could try with this : linux-backports-modules-generic
[13:11] <ibou> then reboot
[13:11] <ibou> it could work
[13:11] <ibou> i had my sound with this
[13:11] <LinaLove> found something in system preferences - sound system which allowed me to select audio stuff
[13:12] <LinaLove> from automatic i for testing issues switched it to alsa
[13:12] <ibou> Jucato: thanks but i put embedded mplayer at the top of each list and i always have kaffeine plugin :(
[13:13] <Jucato> ibou: are you sure you're doing it for the correct file type? and in the Embedding tab?
[13:15] <ibou> jucato every time i have mplayer embedded i put it on the top of the list. In the embedding tab yes
[13:16] <Jucato> hm. strange.. maybe you need to restart Konqueror first?
[13:16] <ibou> i tryed
[13:16] <LinaLove> ibou: where do i enter that linux backports modules generic? :x
[13:16] <ibou> sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-generic
[13:16] <LinaLove> >_<
[13:16] <LinaLove> thx
[13:17] <ibou> you have to activate the backports in the sources.list
[13:18] <LinaLove> and this works how? :|
[13:18] <ibou> did you installed them ?
[13:18] <LinaLove> just remove the # in front of the lines?
[13:19] <LinaLove>  deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[13:19] <LinaLove>  deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[13:19] <ibou> yes
[13:19] <ibou> just remove #
[13:19] <LinaLove> can't write the data :|
[13:19] <ibou> sudo kate sources.list
[13:20] <ibou> don't remember where the file is located
[13:20] <Jucato> !kdesu
[13:20] <flipstar>  /etc/apt/sources.list but you also can use adept_manager instead
[13:20] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[13:20] <ibou> yes
[13:21] <ibou> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:21] <ibou> or adept
[13:21] <LinaLove> done :)
[13:22] <LinaLove> brb, rebooting :)
[13:22] <ibou> ok
[13:22] <flipstar> you dont have to
[13:22] <Jucato> !kdesu | ibou
[13:22] <ubotu> ibou: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[13:22] <flipstar> oh
[13:22] <ibou> yes she had to with those modules
[13:22] <flipstar> oh already installed..didnt knew
[13:22] <Jucato> ibou: I'm pointing to the fact that you shouldn't use sudo with GUI apps
[13:23] <ibou> jucato i read that
[13:23] <ibou> jucato did'nt know
[13:23] <ibou> jucato i go to your hyperlink
[13:24] <matisse> hi
[13:24] <matisse> how do I add a kernel module ?
[13:24] <flipstar> make sense..thanks jucato
[13:24] <matisse> there is a shell command for it...
[13:25] <Jucato> load a kernel module? sudo modprobe <module_name>
[13:25] <LinaLove> ibou: i got it working :D
[13:26] <LinaLove> thanks so much =]
[13:26] <ibou> jucato thanks for the information
[13:26] <ibou> linalove hehe
[13:26] <LinaLove> just had to change a bit more stuff in kmix
[13:26] <LinaLove> with rear and front jack
[13:26] <LinaLove> and the bass doesn't do anything yet but this is a start
[13:26] <MyOpenSource> hi all mind help ?
[13:26] <matisse> Jucato: yes, thats what I meant. thx
[13:26] <ibou> yes i have some problems too but it works
[13:27] <ibou> try to remove your alsa setting before installing linux-backports-modules-generic
[13:27] <LinaLove> well
[13:28] <LinaLove> this was pure stupidity
[13:28] <LinaLove> as it wouldn't work before i just played with bass and volume
[13:28] <LinaLove> and it was just turned off
[13:28] <Jucato> :)
[13:28] <ibou> :D
[13:28] <matisse> Is there a possibility to sort a shell output alphabetically ?
[13:28] <LinaLove> :D
[13:28] <Jucato> one of the most common errors :)
[13:28] <LinaLove> Jucato: "error 30"
[13:28]  * MyOpenSource using kubuntu latest ver on presario v3000 using broadcom wireless .. i ve install the broadcom driver offline using file from ubuntu pages.. the restricted panel also done ... but the kubuntu cant connected to net plz
[13:28] <LinaLove> when the error is like 30cm away from the screen ;D
[13:29] <Jucato> also known as PEBKAC
[13:29] <Jucato> !broadcom
[13:29] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[13:30] <Jucato> PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
[13:30] <kiefer> When I goto the pidgin site to download it, it only offers me "Windows, Fedora Core, and  CentOS / RHEL' downloads, :S
[13:31] <MyOpenSource> i ve done it Jucato
[13:31] <MyOpenSource> but still cant be conected
[13:32] <kiefer> Dw, Found what I was looking for on ubuntu package index
[13:32] <flipstar> kiefer: on the pidgin.im site theres only the source for linux ..
[13:34] <kiefer> flipstar: yeah i realised, so i grabbed the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com :)
[13:35] <flipstar> okay but there out of date ..
[13:35] <matisse> !usb
[13:35] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:35] <JackWinter> what kde application can I use to take capture windows or screenshots?
[13:35] <matisse> JackWinter:  ksnapshot
[13:36] <JackWinter> thanks matisse
[13:36] <kiefer> is there a way to download a .deb package with all its dependencies at once?
[13:37] <flipstar> if the depencies are availible gdebi should do that ..
[13:37] <ibou> Jucato: ok it my mplayer plugin works now. I forgot some setting in file association. Thanks a lot.
[13:39] <enzo> kubuntu has detected a driver for my wifi card, now i'd like to connect to my wifi network, how can i do ?
[13:40] <kiefer> enzo, what model is your card?
[13:40] <kiefer> model/brand*
[13:41] <LinaLove> are there like "script"-addons for konversation?
[13:41] <enzo> 3945 intel
[13:42] <kiefer> sorry enzo, im really only usefull when it comes to D-Link wifi products, ask around, someone will be able to help you :)
[13:45] <enzo> but kubuntu has detected my card and installed it kiefer, i just need now to have a gui to put my wpa password i imagine
[13:45] <enzo> what is the prog to configure wifi interface, you know kiefer ?
[13:46] <Ace_NoOne> hi - I've just installed Kubuntu 7.10, now trying to add universe and multiverse
[13:46] <kiefer> enzo: KNetworkManager
[13:46] <Ace_NoOne> via Adept Manager > Manage Repositories, I've added the following:
[13:46] <Ace_NoOne> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[13:46] <Ace_NoOne> that doesn't do anything tho!?
[13:48] <flipstar> Ace_NoOne: you can do that in adept
[13:48] <flipstar> or add that specific line in sources.list
[13:48] <Ace_NoOne> flipstar: I wanted to go the GUI way - not recommended?
[13:48] <flipstar> sure than just use adept_manager
[13:49] <Ace_NoOne> that's what I just tried
[13:49] <Ace_NoOne> window title is Software Sources > Third-Party Software > Add
[13:49] <enzo> KNetworkManager is the little icon in the systray kiefer ? cause i have no windows, when i launch it
[13:50] <flipstar> you also could just make checks on universe restricted and so on
[13:50] <Ace_NoOne> flipstar: ahh, they are checked already on the previous tab - my bad
[13:50] <kiefer> Enzo, what happens when you right click the little icon?
[13:50] <Ace_NoOne> now gotta figure out why Git doesn't show up...
[13:51] <flipstar> you updated the package list ?
[13:51] <Ace_NoOne> I think so
[13:51] <enzo> i see that linked network is checked
[13:52] <flipstar> !find git | Ace_NoOne
[13:52] <ubotu> ace_noone: Found: git-core, git-doc, gitk, jigit, 4digits (and 26 others)
[13:52] <enzo> ahhh oups, i think i have to activate something on my dell kiefe,r i check
[13:53] <Ace_NoOne> flipstar: in Adept Installer, I search for "git" - it doesn't show up
[13:53] <Ace_NoOne> all boxes are checked
[13:53] <enzo> oh no, i just need to deactivate wireless network, and activate it again, and i can see wireless networks kiefer
[13:53] <flipstar> try that refresh button and search again ;)
[13:54] <kiefer> Ohk, So you just wanna know how to (de)activate your card?
[13:54] <Ace_NoOne> flipstar: in Adept Manager, I did Fetch Updates, then started Adept Installer
[13:54] <Ace_NoOne> I feel so stupid right now...
[13:55] <kiefer> Ace_NoOne: Welcome to my world :)
[13:55] <Ace_NoOne> hehe
[14:03] <Ace_NoOne> flipstar: FYI, "apt-get install git-core git-gui" worked - not sure why it's not showing up in the Adept Installer GUI
[14:09] <matisse> What do I do if my usb hd isn't detected ?
[14:10] <flipstar> matisse: nothing at /var/log/messages when you plug it in ?
[14:14] <JackWinter> what is katapult?
[14:14] <aidy> hi, how come there's no qt/kde client for MPD in ubuntu
[14:15] <Ace_NoOne> JackWinter: a program launcher
[14:18] <matisse> flipstar: there is nothing new. do you mean ../syslog ?
[14:18] <matisse> but there's also nothing new
[14:19] <matisse> problem solved...
[14:22] <ubuntu> hi
[14:23] <martijn81> hi Lexo
[14:23] <Lexo> i am from georgia
[14:24] <LinaLove> ibou:
[14:25] <LinaLove> is there a way to execute a windows command while connected to a windows ftp?
[14:25] <martijn81> Lexo: have a question?
[14:26] <Lexo> no
[14:26] <Lexo> m4
[14:26] <Lexo> cvs
[14:26] <Lexo> autoconf
[14:26] <Lexo> automake1.9
[14:26] <Lexo> libtool
[14:26] <Lexo> vim
[14:27] <Lexo> gcc-4.1
[14:27] <Lexo> g++-4.1
[14:27] <Lexo> libssl-dev
[14:27] <Lexo> libmysql++-dev
[14:27] <LinaLove> could you stop that please? :)
[14:27] <Lexo> libglut3-dev
[14:27] <Lexo> glutg3-dev
[14:27] <Lexo> libglui-dev
[14:27] <Lexo> libglitz-glx1-dev
[14:27] <Odd-rationale> !paste
[14:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:28] <jpatrick> !paste > Lexo
[14:28] <jpatrick> Lexo: please use the pastebin next time
[14:28] <flipstar> ..
[14:28] <flipstar> hes gone
[14:28] <jpatrick> flipstar: Ive muted him
[14:28] <flipstar> oh
[14:28] <willie_> is this the best place to say that I just tried to install Hardy Alpha 4 and it failed on configuring the base system?
[14:28] <jpatrick> !hardy > willie_
[14:28] <willie_> a clean install over freshly formatted ext3 2GB partition
[14:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know how to make the changes done to /etc/fstab active without rebooting?
[14:29] <LinaLove> good job jpatrick :p
[14:29] <jpatrick> flipstar: looks like he did go..
[14:29] <jpatrick> LinaLove: just my job
[14:29] <LinaLove> theh :)
[14:29] <Azzmodan> Anyone know of a GTK theme that would fit well with the Dark Oxygen theme?
[14:30] <LinaLove> yeah, can anyone tell me a good ftp client besides konqueror with the possibility to execute raw commands? :)
[14:30] <LinaLove> KFTPGrabber always hangs up on me whilst listing
[14:31] <Odd-rationale> LinaLove: filezilla is pretty good.
[14:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> LinaLove: gftp
[14:31] <Azzmodan> gfpt is nice, but if it hangs on listing you probably need to change active/passive mode
[14:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> Azzmodan, I haven't had any problems with it so far.
[14:31] <LinaLove> thanks guys :D
[14:32] <dick-richardson> how do I print to my Kubuntu machine from my wife's Mac?
[14:33] <LinaLove> dick-richardson: you could try using winscp
[14:34] <LinaLove> dunno if theres a mac version of that
[14:35] <dick-richardson> I already have a network share, You're saying just save whatever she wants to print to that and have me print it manually?
[14:36] <ubuntu> how do i create a mount point?
[14:36] <ubuntu> i'm unable to create a folder in /media
[14:36] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: use sudo
[14:36] <ubuntu> i'm also running off the live CD
[14:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you sudo
[14:36] <dick-richardson> you need to be root to create a folder in /media/
[14:36] <ubuntu> i used sudo :)
[14:37] <dick-richardson>  /media is on the live cd
[14:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> sudo mkdir /media/<name>?
[14:37] <dick-richardson> = not writable
[14:37] <ubuntu> opened as root :)
[14:37] <Azzmodan> I just did "sudo mkdir /media/test" and it made a folder with no problem
[14:37] <flipstar> you cant create something in /media on live cd .. i thing
[14:37] <flipstar> use /mnt
[14:37] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu: alternatively you can use the /mnt folder which should be empty.
[14:37] <ubuntu> i need to mount my sda1 to access a previous kubuntu install and fix the grub
[14:37] <dick-richardson> just use /mnt then
[14:38] <JackWinter> don't know if this is the right channel, but here it goes, and apoligies in advance ;)
[14:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> ubuntu: if it doesn't work, get grub-superdisk.  It will help you fix your grub problem in 3 clicks
[14:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> now, I just made changes to my /etc/fstab.  How do I make it active w/o re-booting?
[14:39] <JackWinter> I suspect diskaccess is bringing my kubuntu close to it's knees, much more so than win on the same hardware.  Asus P4B P4 3 GHz and normal IDE disks, no sata.  Hopw can I troubleshoot this?  Any pointers to the correct channel, sites, benchmarking progs?
[14:39] <Azzmodan> "mount -a" will mount everything in fstab
[14:39] <ubuntu> sudo apt-get install grub-superdisk?
[14:40] <Azzmodan> JackWinter, check out "hdparm"
[14:40] <flipstar> bonnie++ i a benchmark program but i would check if dma is enabled JackWinter
[14:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> ubuntu: grub superdisk is an iso image the you need to download.
[14:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> hold on
[14:40] <ubuntu> ohh, then run as a live cd?
[14:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> yes, or you can install on a jump drive: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[14:41] <ubuntu> and thats fine for dual booting?
[14:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> yes, it is.
[14:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> I  used it 3 days ago when I installed  Backtrack 2 and wiped my grub with lilo.
[14:42] <ubuntu> i installed backtrack on a thumb drive
[14:42] <iltse> could someone help me with the fglrx drivers? still having the problem that when i reboot after installing the screen goes blank when i'm supposed to see the login screen. (made a thread on the forum about this too http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3090993.0 )
[14:43] <ubuntu> though i can only get it to run like a live CD
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> you should follow the wiki.  look for the dual boot howto.
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> It worked for me.
[14:44] <ubuntu> ok :)
[14:44] <ubuntu> gotta switch to xp now :(
[14:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> good luck.
[14:44] <ingrid> can anyone get into www.kde-look.org ?
[14:44] <ubuntu> thanks
[14:44] <kiefer> when Konquorer doesnt ask where to save a file, wheres its default save location to save to?
[14:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> ingrid: I think it is down.  I have been trying since 4:30am.
[14:45] <ingrid> gundam_rx78nt1: that makes sense. thanks
[14:45] <kiefer> ingrid: i cant get in
[14:45] <kiefer> -either*
[14:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> well,  got to go.  see ya later.
[14:46] <kiefer> Peace
[14:46] <kiefer> Brb, need coffee
[14:54] <JackWinter> is dma fir ide disks not enabled by default in kubuntu gutsy 7.10 ? I'm pretty much a noob ;)  I see no /etc/hdparm.conf nor do I have any /dev/hd* entries?
[14:55] <flipstar> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[14:56] <JackWinter> flipstar: that was exactly the page I was looking at ;)
[14:57] <flipstar> so what does hdparm say ?
[14:57] <JackWinter> I find no enties for /dev/hd*   ??
[14:58] <flipstar> you have to replace the * with you harddisc ..
[14:58] <flipstar> for first use a for second b and so on
[14:58] <JackWinter> I tried a ls /dev/h* and got only /dev/hpet.  What would my ide disks be called then ?
[14:59] <flipstar> e.g. /dev/hda
[14:59] <enzo> i kill kdenetwork, i start it again, but it doesn't show my wifi network, i have to do something ?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[15:00] <flipstar> !howdy
[15:00] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:00] <flipstar> :)
[15:00] <JackWinter> that's what I thought too, but there is no /dev/hda "ls /dev/hda" returns "no such file or dir"
[15:00] <flipstar> you are sure that you have an ide drive ?
[15:01] <flipstar> you may check sudo fdisk -l
[15:01] <mefisto__> I'm looking for a linux cad program that is easy to learn/use, and preferably creates autocad-compatible files. Any suggestions? (I have almost no experience with cad software)
[15:02] <flipstar> mefisto__: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
[15:02] <mefisto__> thanks flipstar
[15:03] <BluesKaj> I'd like to capture an audio stream off site that uses flashplayer with either VLC, Amarok or any other app that may work ...any suggestions?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> from a site , rather
[15:04] <ibou> hi
[15:04] <JackWinter> weird.  sudo fdisk -l shows a /dev/hda and /dev/hdb.  a ls /dev/hd* show nothing.  A sudo hdparm /dev/hda give no such file or dir.  man this confuses me ;)
[15:05] <flipstar> me too JackWinter
[15:06] <JackWinter> so maybe I finally found the cause of my problems.  Now just how do I fix this ;)  Any idea what irc channel to go to to find the experts ?
[15:09] <JackWinter> flipstar: urgh blushing they are called sda and sdb.  Why would that be, they are ide not scsi disks...
[15:10] <flipstar> sata
[15:11] <JackWinter> but they are old ata drives, suppose they are connected through a sata controller on the mainboard.  Ok
[15:11] <flipstar> wired
[15:12] <smith50> ide drives show as sdX in kew kernels
[15:12] <smith50> kew=new
[15:12] <smith50> dma is enabled by default i think
[15:13] <JackWinter> so then I can do "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" to enable dma ?  Any risk in doing this ?
[15:13] <JackWinter> smith50, how do I see if dma is enabled ?
[15:14] <JackWinter> sudo hdparm sda"" returned nothing mentioneing dma...
[15:16] <smeril> i am trying to install truecrypt but when i klick on the icon truecrypt_4.3a-0_i386.deb it says that i am already using 1 other packet manager and because of that i cant install the program but the problem is that i dont know wich program is already running
[15:17] <flipstar> smeril: just take a look at ksysguard and search for adept or synaptic
[15:17] <JackWinter> hmm, running sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda resulted in HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[15:19] <smeril> is there a quick comand to acces ksysguard?
[15:19] <smith50> I dont think you can JackWinter, i think you can only really look in the dmesg, it's supposed to be on by default
[15:19] <smith50> there's sdparm but that won't help you either
[15:19] <smeril> i found it
[15:20] <smeril> should it be a menu called search or do i have to  find the file manual?
[15:21] <flipstar> right theres an search form
[15:22] <smeril> adept_notifier is runing can that be the problem?
[15:22] <flipstar> no
[15:22] <smeril> ok
[15:22] <flipstar> if nothing works you may try
[15:22] <flipstar> !adeptfix
[15:23] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:23] <JackWinter> sorry to be a bother smith50!  What am I looking for in dmesg?  "dmesg | grep dma" returned:
[15:23] <JackWinter> ata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x000103f6 bmdma 0x0001fc00 irq 14
[15:24] <JackWinter> ata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00010170 ctl 0x00010376 bmdma 0x0001fc08 irq 15
[15:24] <smith50> heh, you know about as much as I do
[15:25] <JackWinter> ok, thanks anyway ;)  Gonna get a cup of coffee and read dmesg line by line.  Maybe light will dawn..
[15:30] <JackWinter> hmm, i suppose the following means that the drive is in dma mode? "ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100"
[15:33] <jussi01> !dma | JackWinter
[15:33] <ubotu> JackWinter: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hardware transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[15:33] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, yup
[15:34] <JackWinter> ok, then that is not the problem.  On to running bonnie .  Thanks alot for the help!
[15:37] <smith50> JackWinter: that would be it the configured for bit I guess
[15:38] <lvs> would you please help me: in my freshly installed kubuntu the konqueror doesn't work :(
[15:41] <crackhead_25_> hey what's the command in grub to boot from a cd image ind rive??
[15:44] <crackhead_25_> anyone know? what's the command in grub to boot from a cd??
[15:45] <flipstar> why dont you use your boot options in the bios ?
[15:47] <amber_> i have my space
[15:48] <Arielle> IDENTIFY
[15:48] <anton> Anyone who knows of a nice divx player for mozilla?
[15:48] <Arielle> NO
[15:48] <anton> For joox
[15:48] <anton> =)
[15:48] <Arielle> no
[15:49] <anton> =(
[15:50] <DreadKnight> !wacom
[15:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:50] <Arielle> ha ha ha loosers
[15:51] <anton> lol amber
[15:51] <Arielle> yep but that is not my name my name is arielle
[15:51] <DreadKnight> !wacom
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <DreadKnight> anyone knows how to compile the wacom tablet driver?
[15:52] <Arielle> no bye bye even
[15:58] <SAngeli> Hi, I changed linux distro and wish to create a new user account. How do I import my kmail and firefox account and settings (as I have ssl certificates, bookmarks, and mail account settings)?
[15:59] <flipstar> you probably just have to copy the config dirs
[16:02] <romunov> does anyone play openarena?
[16:03] <jussi01> romunov: yes
[16:03] <jussi01> !anyone | romunov
[16:03] <ubotu> romunov: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:04] <flipstar> btw where is all that stuff listed ? in /factoids.cgi its only particular ..
[16:05] <DreadKnight> romunov: i play from time to time...
[16:05] <jussi01> flipstar: which stuff?
[16:05] <jussi01> !bot | flipstar
[16:05] <ubotu> flipstar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:05] <flipstar> the !anyone thing for example
[16:06] <flipstar> ..okay the anyone is in it
[16:06] <jussi01> flipstar: they are all at that address
[16:07] <X9nLinuxX> Running Dapper on an old iMac with KDE.  Opened hard drive icon to find text color below icons is off white on a white background.  How do I change that color... and the color of the apple menu bar to while we're at it?
[16:07] <DreadKnight> is there any point for adding the KDE4 PPA in hardy?
[16:08] <flipstar> jussi01: the !launchpad for example is not
[16:09] <jussi01> flipstar: yes it is
[16:09] <jussi01> use the search...
[16:09] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: have you considered upgrading?
[16:09] <lokpest> is there some known bug between ogg-theora videos and dolphin??
[16:09] <DreadKnight> lokpest: what's the .. effect?
[16:09] <flipstar> oh wait there are several sites..
[16:09] <jussi01> flipstar: also, leave the ! out
[16:09] <X9nLinuxX> hehehe... yeah, but between here and there it would be good to work with what is available
[16:09] <flipstar> i saw just the first..my bad
[16:10] <lokpest> DreadKnight: just klicking the file (not even opening it) makes that dolphin window freeze
[16:10] <lokpest> and I have to force it shut down
[16:11] <DreadKnight> lokpest: kde3 or 4?
[16:11] <flipstar> im out byebye
[16:11] <lokpest> DreadKnight: 3.5.8
[16:11] <DreadKnight> lokpest: kaffeine?
[16:12] <X9nLinuxX> so aside from an upgrade, how do I mess with the font colors on the icons?
[16:12] <lokpest> well, yes, but it occurs just clicking the file, not opening it
[16:12] <lokpest> uses kmplayer also, nut kaffeine is my standard player
[16:12] <|Dreams|> is it possible to resize my partition on my hard drive so i can move 80gb of my files onto it then format and reinstall my OS on the first partition
[16:12] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: well, dapper is a bit ancient, but i guess you could try editing your color scheme from the system settings page
[16:13] <DreadKnight> lokpest: so you tried both and got the same result?
[16:14] <lokpest> DreadKnight: well, im not trying to play the video (I think I _can_ do that)
[16:14] <MaTiAz> Hmm, does Kopete result in SIGSEGV every time when connecting to MSN?
[16:14] <lokpest> DreadKnight: Im trying to move it to another place
[16:14] <X9nLinuxX> Took a dive in looking... but even appearance -> fonts it doesn't seem to show where to change the colors
[16:14] <DreadKnight> lokpest: i see, well didn't had such problem in kde3 or 4   :\
[16:15] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: i suggest look and feel / appearence
[16:16] <DreadKnight> lokpest: you should check if the same thing happens when in konqueror ;)
[16:16] <X9nLinuxX> Again, not finding anything that shows where to change the colors
[16:16] <FrauHansen> what's up with kde-look.org ?? i get an 404...can somebody confirm?
[16:17] <DreadKnight> FrauHansen: confirmed
[16:17] <X9nLinuxX> have already been fishing around for a while before asking here... surprised that its so 'hard to find'
[16:17] <ibilic> i tried to install sun jre 6 and Adept manager says that it had an error comitting changes
[16:17] <store> I want to limit the bandwidth going to one pc anyone know of a good way to do this? Anyone know of a piece of software to do this?
[16:17] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: so you want to change the font color of the panel?
[16:17] <X9nLinuxX> no, the font color of the icons that appear when the hard drive window shows up
[16:17] <lokpest> DreadKnight: konqueror did it! :)
[16:18] <X9nLinuxX> and the 'applemenu' also
[16:18] <DreadKnight> lokpest: i suggest filling a bug report :P
[16:18] <lokpest> DreadKnight: ok :)
[16:18] <FrauHansen> DreadKnight: thanks for checking
[16:18] <X9nLinuxX> off white text on white background just doesn't cut it
[16:18] <ibilic> Adept crashed
[16:20] <X9nLinuxX> the appearance -> 'icons' panel doesn't show anything about colors, nor 'fonts' 'colors' ...
[16:20] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: yeah, it seems so... i was just checking it...
[16:20] <ibilic> !Adept
[16:20] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[16:20] <X9nLinuxX> IIRC, dapper is the newest system that will run on the old imac thats available right now
[16:21] <X9nLinuxX> unfortunately
[16:21] <tashiro_> Im having trouble Compiling SATAN any help?
[16:21] <lokpest> (btw, any body know if there is plans for dolphin for move/copy-feature "this file" to another place in the dropdown-menu by right clicking it like in konqueror??)
[16:21] <ibilic> !Adept-crash
[16:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:22] <X9nLinuxX> on mouseover, the applemenu bar at least changes to blue so its 'livable' but not preferable as is... but the regular icons don't do that... so that part sucks
[16:22] <tashiro_> Any 1 know how to compile satan?
[16:23] <DreadKnight> can anyone help me compile the latest wacom drivers? :P
[16:23] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: i'm not much into macs but if i find out i'll let you know :\
[16:23] <ibilic> !database locked
[16:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database locked - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:23] <ibilic> !ubotu
[16:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:24] <X9nLinuxX> well, I can't fault you for fishing / trying.  This channel has been the whole reason to go with Kubuntu instead of the other choices.  People here are great for being courteous and helpful as much as possible.
[16:24] <tashiro_> Can u Help me compile satan1.1.1<ubotu>
[16:25] <tekteen> ubotu is a bot
[16:25] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[16:25] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: :) you could try filling a bug report...
[16:25] <ibilic> !Adept crash
[16:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:25] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[16:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:25] <ibilic> tekteen: thanks!
[16:26] <tekteen> np
[16:26] <X9nLinuxX> never even tried that.  Barely even getting started exploring Kubuntu these days
[16:26] <X9nLinuxX> !bug reports
[16:26] <sirius> Hi, do you know how to shorten the lenght of password? Where is the setting to change?
[16:26] <X9nLinuxX> !bugreports
[16:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugreports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:26] <tekteen> !bug
[16:27] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[16:27] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: [18:26] <Sho_> DreadKnight: Right-click -> Configure Desktop -> Advanced Options -> Text color
[16:27] <tashiro_> Doesent any 1 here know howw to compile satan1.1.1
[16:27] <tashiro_> any 1?
[16:27] <tekteen> tashiro_: no but I do know how to compile
[16:27] <tekteen> are you getting an error?
[16:28] <X9nLinuxX> how do ya 'right click' on a one button mouse?!!!!
[16:28] <tashiro_> well when i compile it keeps searching for perl5 but never finishes
[16:29] <tekteen> ok
[16:29] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: as far as i know about macs, you got to hold some other key too
[16:29] <tashiro_> i ran "perl reconfig" and it never seems to finish locating perl
[16:30] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: macs "ctrl" key... how the heck it's called xD
[16:30] <tekteen> tashiro_: can you pastebin what happens?
[16:30] <X9nLinuxX> I like the mouse control panel for this... there is no such thing as a one button mouse in the configurations
[16:30] <ToyMan> can anyone point me to a good how-to on configuring xorg.conf so that composite window effects work on kde4?
[16:31] <tekteen> ToyMan: you need 3D graphics
[16:31] <tekteen> you may want to try the resticted drivers manager
[16:31] <tekteen> !restricted
[16:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:31] <ToyMan> tekteen: yes, how exactly does that convert to xorg.conf settings?
[16:31] <tashiro_> checking to make sure all the target(s) are here...
[16:31] <tashiro_> Ok, trying to find perl5 now... hang on a bit...
[16:31] <tashiro_> thats been goin on for hours
[16:32] <tekteen> ToyMan: no idea
[16:32] <DreadKnight> X9nLinuxX: try the "option" key while cliking, as well as the other functional keys (alt, shift)... don't remember mac's one mouse button for right click solution, anyway i can't image life with a single button mouse
[16:32] <ToyMan> my window effects dialog says i need the xcomposite and xdamage extensions
[16:32] <tekteen> Changes the driver I guess
[16:32] <ToyMan> i'm pretty sure it's an xorg.conf config issue
[16:32] <tekteen> no idea
[16:33] <ToyMan> k, thanks anyway
[16:33] <tekteen> tashiro_: the tarball might be broken. What are you compiling?
[16:33] <winterelf> hi..
[16:33] <tashiro_> SATAN 1.1.1
[16:34] <tekteen> ok
[16:35] <tekteen> is it a port scanner?
[16:35] <tashiro_> yeah
[16:35] <winterelf> got a problam downloading from adept manager while downloading it says"ther was an arror commiting changes posibly there was a problam downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" ,,, it do that on every download i do
[16:35] <tekteen> why not use nmap
[16:35] <tashiro_> already have namp
[16:36] <tekteen> there is a gui for it
[16:36] <tashiro_> Satan is just too cool to pass on
[16:36] <tekteen> ok
[16:36] <tekteen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=626346
[16:36] <winterelf> some oune have any idead?
[16:37] <tashiro_> I prefer using my scanner in konsole
[16:37] <X9nLinuxX> ah!  Maybe this is getting somewhere...
[16:37] <tekteen> ok
[16:37] <tekteen> me too
[16:38] <tashiro_> Konsole is so much kooler
[16:38] <tekteen> lol
[16:38]  * tekteen likes the konsole because it is easy to use
[16:39] <tekteen> hi | tecie1980
[16:39] <winterelf> ?
[16:39] <winterelf> got a problam downloading from adept manager while downloading it says"ther was an arror commiting changes posibly there was a problam downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" ,,, it do that on every download i do
[16:39] <tecie1980> Good morning tekteen
[16:39] <JackWinter> can anyone tell me if this is an ok result for bonnie++ on a slightly older machine, or if there is something obvioulsy wrong..? tor,2G,4148,55,22000,41,12642,14,4745,56,28564,11,160.4,1,16,4885,57,+++++,+++,7508,66,5893,62,+++++,+++,8442,71
[16:39] <tekteen> !hi | tecie1980
[16:39] <ubotu> tecie1980: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:39] <tekteen> oops
[16:39] <tekteen> lol
[16:39] <tekteen> !repeat|winterelf
[16:39] <ubotu> winterelf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:39] <X9nLinuxX> well, changed some text colors... but can't find what that affected
[16:40] <winterelf> amm
[16:40] <tashiro_> Is Ubotu a BOT?
[16:40] <tekteen> ubotu is a bot
[16:40] <jussi01> !bot | tekteen
[16:40] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[16:40] <ubotu> tekteen: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:40] <jussi01> grr
[16:40] <tekteen> jussi01: i know
[16:41] <tashiro_> Oh
[16:41] <jussi01> tekteen: sorry, thwat was meant for tashiro_
[16:41] <tekteen> np
[16:41] <tekteen> ubotu is smart
[16:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:41] <tekteen> nm :-D
[16:42] <tecie1980> I'm having some problems getting dual screens to work in Kubuntu Edgy using an Nvidia card. I have 2 identical LCD montirors, and I can do cloned dual screens, but when I try and do dual screens  it reverts to this weird thing where screen 2 is 800x600 and screen1 is black, however the mouse can move through both. Also, it can't load menus or anything, including the right click menu on the desktop that's visibile (it tries to, but
[16:42] <tecie1980> sort of sits there and flashes) -- anyoone know a workaround?
[16:43] <tekteen> I am not an X guy
[16:43] <adz21c> tecie1980: u using twinview or xinerama?
[16:43] <tecie1980> I'm not sure.. I had been trying to use what was included with the display settings package on the System Settings console
[16:44] <adz21c> oh ok, i never used that before tbh
[16:44] <tecie1980> adz21c:  How would you suggest I go about this?
[16:44] <adz21c> tecie1980: pastebin me your xorg.conf
[16:45] <tecie1980> adz21c: right now it's in single screen mode again. Is that OK or do you want the offending xorg.conf file (I can reconfigure, but I need to log out and back in again)
[16:46] <adz21c> tecie1980: get it so u got a good single monitor set up
[16:47] <tecie1980> adz21c: OK, it's up at http://pastebin.org/17871
[16:48] <adz21c> tecie1980: ok gimmie a couple mins
[16:48] <tashiro_> !repeat|winterelf
[16:48] <ubotu> winterelf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:48] <tashiro_> !repeat|patience
[16:48] <ubotu> patience: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:49] <tashiro_> sorry had to do that
[16:49] <tekteen> !msgthebot | tashiro_
[16:49] <ubotu> tashiro_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:49] <jpatrick> tashiro_: /msg ubotu !repeat :):)
[16:50] <adz21c> tecie1980: what screen res u want on each monitor?
[16:50] <tashiro_> haha
[16:52] <tomahasamoot> I'm having trouble with xorg.  I seem to have lost the 1920x1200 mode, so the desktop is bigger than the screen and keeps scrolling.  I can't fix it using the System Settings tool.
[16:52] <ibou_> is there a way to get my system back as it was yesterday ?
[16:52] <ibilic> gcc doesn't know where my stdio.h is
[16:53] <tomahasamoot> I've also noted that the gamma is off now.
[16:53] <tekteen> ibou_: no
[16:53] <tashiro_> ha i guesse nmap will do
[16:53] <ibou_> damn
[16:53] <tekteen> ibou_: why?
[16:53] <tomahasamoot> what's the best tool to configure xorg?
[16:54] <adz21c> tecie1980: what screen res u want on each monitor?
[16:54] <ibilic> why can my system not link to standard c libraries?
[16:55] <tomahasamoot> adz21c: did you mean to message me?
[16:55] <adz21c> tomahasamoot: no
[16:55] <tecie1980> adz21c: 1280x768
[16:56] <tashiro_> azureus always terminates when i open it any ideas?
[16:56] <ibou_> tekteen i made some errors by erasing some package
[16:56] <tekteen> tashiro_: open it from the konsole
[16:56] <tekteen> ibou_: which package?
[16:56] <tashiro_> did that still coses
[16:57] <tashiro_> Im on gutsy
[16:57] <ibou_> ibou_: it's ok now thanks
[16:57] <ibou_> oops
[16:57] <tekteen> tashiro_: if you run it in the konsole you can debug
[16:57] <ibou_> tekteen it's ok
[16:57] <tekteen> lol
[16:57] <tekteen> I have done that before
[16:58] <tashiro_> ok
[16:58] <adz21c> tecie1980: http://www.pastebin.org/17875 try that, back up ur current one then replace it with that
[17:00] <tecie1980> brb.... restarting X.
[17:00] <tashiro_> got this output on konsole "Exception in thread "main" org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [gtk_init_c                      heck() failed]"
[17:04] <tecie1980> adz21c: I now have dual screens, but the resolution is off and I can't load the KDE desktop driver. Should I try to fix them manually in xorg?
[17:05] <arto_> hmm
[17:05] <adz21c> tecie1980: I would, the guis never seem to quite get it right for me
[17:09] <Sbucat> ...xD well hardy rocks all multimedia keys works , gutsy no ..,, in fesity multimedia keys works too ..why ?
[17:10] <tomahasamoot> adz21c: there used to be a comand line configuration tool for x.  xconfig, or some thing like that.  But I can't find it.  Is this tool, or something like it still around?
[17:11] <jbrcks> Hello, I just installed kubuntu on my system and in the Kmenu the names of the apps are messed up for the default installed apps. ie: _: Entries in Kmenu: , appears before all the apps.  Applications I installed myself appear fine in Kmenu
[17:12] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: strange things also happen regarding the wacom tablet/mouse :\
[17:12] <jbrcks> Anyone know the reason for this or how to fix it?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> jbrcks, once you use the apps the names will revert to the proper ones
[17:12] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: i have also wacom tablet...in gutsy works fine :D
[17:13] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: what tablet type? xD
[17:13] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: mmxD i have made a little tutorial too...video tutorial...wacom classic xl
[17:14] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: well, the wacom mouse is the actuall problem, it only works for me in feisty... but not in gutsy or hardy... what a crap...
[17:14] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: link to the tut? :D
[17:14] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738kyim12G0
[17:14] <adz21c> tomahasamoot: don't know, i have given up on the tools all together
[17:15] <jbrcks> BluesKaj: I am going through my Kmenu opening the programs, will they correct themselves when I restart xserver because are not changing for me.
[17:16] <tecie1980> adz21c: The solution was to remove all of the lower resolutions that I didn't want.... Now all I have to do is figure out how to change which side kubuntu things monitor 2 is on
[17:17] <adz21c> tecie1980: if u look at the config file its the twinview orientation options
[17:17] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: what's that software you are using for capturing? :\
[17:17] <adz21c> tecie1980: says dfp-0 leftof dfp-1
[17:17] <ibou_> i want to remove all my *toto* named files from my / Can i do it with 1 command ?
[17:17] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: you don't read ?
[17:17] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: do you want the webpage ?
[17:18] <ubuntu> hey may i ask how i get to windows files from kubuntu?
[17:18] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573890
[17:18] <SAngeli> do you know where in kubuntu firefox store user data? I have to migrate to kubuntu PC
[17:19] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: i've seen the link... but i got some other sort of issue... the mouse is not moving the cursor so to say :P
[17:20] <SAngeli> Moreover, do you know of any kmail plugin that minimizes to system tray?
[17:20] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: ah..mm that tutorial is only for wacom tablet like mine is this http://wacom4classicubuntu.wordpress.com/
[17:20] <SAngeli> found out about that
[17:20] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: so i have a pen like you can see
[17:21] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: i think i'll try compiling from source :\     anyway, what's the name of the software you used for recording the video?
[17:21] <tecie1980> adz21c: thank you muchly for your help with my xorg problems!
[17:21] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: it's recordmydesktop...but i have used an unfficial interface .... xD
[17:21] <adz21c> tecie1980: no problem
[17:22] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: uuuu xD it looks interesting as far as i can tell... any link to it?
[17:23] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: :D----------> kde-app________>> search recordmydesktop
[17:23] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: you mean on the http://kde-apps.org site that's curently not working? :D
[17:24] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: yeahh today damned site doesn't work
[17:24] <anton> anyone got a tip for a nice divx player for mozilla?
[17:24] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: oh well, thanks . i will search for it later, maybe i'll get lucky :)
[17:24] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: but it need of kommander....
[17:24] <Sbucat> needs
[17:24] <SAngeli> Please help: firefox IRC does not answer. I need to move my entire firefox profile from my old pc to this current kubuntu pc. Do I just cp "/home/sangeli/.mozilla/firefox/a0u3ku0f.default" ?
[17:25] <DreadKnight> !kommander
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kommander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <Sbucat> DreadKnight:  is a kde application xD like  every my application ...
[17:25] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: hmm don't know about it
[17:25] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843 :D
[17:25] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: is a kommander application too
[17:27] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: kommander is a application to run serveral easy scripts and interfaces...but i repeat is for kde ,,,but it rocks too in gnome
[17:28] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: kde user here :)  well it looks interesting, didn't knew about it, will definetly check it out. thanks :D
[17:28] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: :D i have made that stuff :D
[17:29] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: uuu nice :-)
[17:30] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: bye bye and good luck for your damned wacom tablet mouse
[17:30] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: thanks man xD
[17:30] <DreadKnight> see you around
[17:33] <kkathman> Im using firefox + AdBlock, and I'm trying to view ESPN.com, the far right panel which has video feeds that come in automatically - this works fine in SUSE, but for some reason it wont in kubuntu.. anyone here have a suggestion?
[17:34] <__-osh-__> Sbucat: I'd love commander more if I could "reference" code from the commander script instead of pasting it into it. Kommander is great, but it could be better.
[17:35] <Sbucat> __-osh-__: well i know maybe the most of it ...what's the problem ?
[17:35] <Sbucat> maybe one day i will do some video tutorial
[17:36] <Sbucat> sorry i have so few time...
[17:36] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: i think he means you should make a base app supporting plugins/scripts instead of hardcoding everything.... so it will be more modular ;)
[17:37] <__-osh-__> Sbucat: From what I gather, when I write a kommander script I have to paste my python code into that script, I can't say that "when you come to this point in the code, run this python-script with these parameters". Not that I know of anyway.
[17:37] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: well i plan to delete dvdauthor and images2mpg because i see there so much gui for that so..i think one day you will see only converter :D
[17:38] <kiefer> Is there a way to change the color of the task-bar? (Sorry for the M$ Windows term hehe)
[17:38] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: you could use launchpad's (www.launchpad.net) PPA (personal package archive) to create a repository ;)
[17:38] <Sbucat> __-osh-__: why you can't you can you can
[17:39] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: mmm i have no time unluckly ...i hope in help
[17:39] <Sbucat> xD
[17:40] <Sbucat> __-osh-__: create global variable...then...
[17:40] <DreadKnight> kiefer: kde 3 or 4?
[17:41] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: then i am studing damned c++ so... -.- too much things to do and so few time
[17:41] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: i understand :)
[17:42] <kiefer> DreadKnight: not sure (Only switched from M$ Windows to Linux 2 days ago), Kubuntu 7.10, does that mean anything? lol
[17:42] <DreadKnight> Sbucat: i could help you with the repository thing if you want
[17:42] <Sbucat> __-osh-__: you could paste your problem in paste bin
[17:42] <DreadKnight> kiefer: yeah, kde 3 by default (not that you could customize the color in kde4 anyway :)))
[17:42] <DuEzZzIeR> lol ohh yeah mean... not waisting $$ on windows
[17:43] <Sbucat> DreadKnight: mm well i have done only an easy install.sh i have not made a make file.... xD
[17:43] <kiefer> DreadKnight: So Im stuck with silver? lol, dont get me wrong, I love silver :)
[17:43] <__-osh-__> Sbucat: nevermind. thanks anyway. it's good to have a kommander-expert around. =)
[17:44] <Sbucat> __-osh-__: :P dude when youi see me just ask :D bye
[17:45] <DreadKnight> kiefer: seems to me a bit hard to change the color :|
[17:45] <lokpest> hi again
[17:45] <kiefer> DreadKnight: Lolzzz, I might try my luck with google, Thanks anyway :)
[17:45] <DuEzZzIeR> what color
[17:45] <kiefer> Everyone is always so helpfull here ^_^
[17:46] <kiefer> DuEzZzIeR: I hadnt really decided :S
[17:46] <DreadKnight> kiefer: give me a second...
[17:46] <kiefer> Ohk, Cheers :D
[17:46] <lokpest> what do I need to let kaffeine play .avi composed of div4 and mp3?
[17:46] <DuEzZzIeR> cheers
[17:46] <lokpest> I get sound but no picture
[17:46] <DuEzZzIeR> kaffeine
[17:47] <lokpest> yes, I have that
[17:47] <DuEzZzIeR> coffee
[17:47] <lokpest> It should play it ootb?
[17:47] <DuEzZzIeR> mt.dew
[17:47] <lokpest> ??
[17:47] <DuEzZzIeR> jk
[17:47] <DuEzZzIeR> i'm waking up just missing
[17:47] <lokpest> *rolleyes*
[17:48] <DuEzZzIeR> i use kaffine
[17:48] <DuEzZzIeR> *smiles
[17:48] <lokpest> I do too
[17:48] <lokpest> but it doesnt work here!!
[17:49] <DuEzZzIeR> download updates maybe
[17:50] <lokpest> latest stable version
[17:51] <DreadKnight> kiefer: the easiest and best way would be for you to get a theme from http://www.kde-look.org/ and install it... but right now the bad news is that most of the kde sites are not working, so try again later ;)
[17:52] <kiefer> Ohk, Thanks - Yeah I heard their down a little earlier, I'll be sure to check it out at a later date :)))
[17:52] <DreadKnight> xD
[17:52] <DuEzZzIeR> someone go get me some mc.donalds pls
[17:52] <lokpest> well f*ck
[17:53] <lokpest> all that get picture not is ogg theoras
[17:53] <lokpest> all other formats gets sound only
[17:53] <lokpest> help plz!
[17:55] <Greenery> lokpest: have you tried playing on mplayer?
[17:55] <emilsedgh> !language | lokpest
[17:55] <ubotu> lokpest: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:56] <DuEzZzIeR> |lol|
[17:56] <lokpest> Greenery: kmplayer does the same
[17:56] <DuEzZzIeR> cinimon toast?
[17:57] <mefisto__> lokpest: have you installed w32codecs?
[17:57] <Greenery> maybe the video is corrupted
[17:57] <kiefer> What version does Kubuntu7.10 come with again? my memory fails me =p
[17:57] <DreadKnight> kiefer: you can make different versions of /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png and you tell you how to load them. it's the tile used by the menu by default :) change it's values etc in an image editor like gimp for example :P
[17:57] <lokpest> Greenery: it most videos, and things I have played as late as yesterday
[17:57] <kiefer> what version of KDE*
[17:57] <DreadKnight> kiefer: 3.5.8 probably :)
[17:58] <kiefer> Lol cheers mate, is there a way to check?
[17:58] <DreadKnight> kiefer: i can tell*
[17:58] <organix> any KDE app should have a 'About KDE' in Help menu
[17:58] <kiefer> Lmao
[17:58] <DreadKnight> kiefer: right click, help, about kde
[17:58] <kiefer> 3.5.8 cheers
[17:59] <lokpest> might it be a xine thingy?
[17:59] <mefisto__> lokpest: have you installed w32codecs?
[17:59] <DreadKnight> kiefer: what color would you like the panel to be? :>
[17:59] <kiefer> Umm, Not really sure
[17:59] <kiefer> I like to go beyond customization lol
[17:59] <DuEzZzIeR> Îÿ¿
[17:59] <lokpest> mefisto__: I think so, but it besides the point, it does not play thing corectly today that it did yesterday
[18:00] <mefisto__> so the avi played yesterday, but not today?
[18:00] <DreadKnight> kiefer: well, kde4 is pretty much a rewrite ;) but it has just been released... and it needs more time to be complete/more polished
[18:01] <kiefer> Ohk Cheers :)
[18:01] <lokpest> mefisto__: avi, and a lot of other formats like .mov only get sound and no visual
[18:01] <kiefer> On a side note - is there a way to disable vertical scrolling with the mouse?
[18:02] <DreadKnight> kiefer: you would probably need to manually edit the x.org config file for that i think xD
[18:02] <mefisto__> lokpest: try changing xine engine parameters in kaffeine. in the video section, change driver to "auto"
[18:03] <kiefer> DreadKnight: Just what I wanna be doing at almost 5am ^_^
[18:03] <lokpest> mefisto__: ok, doing a reinstall of kaffeine and xine now, btw
[18:03] <kiefer> DreadKnight: where can I find said file?
[18:04] <DreadKnight> kiefer: xD well never heard of anyone willing to do such a thing, but it's possible as far as i know :>
[18:04] <Daisuke_Ido> probably not a good idea to go poking around in your xorg.conf without knowing what things do
[18:05] <kiefer> DreadKnight: 2 years studying for a degree in IT (Programming and software dev.) is about to pay off :)
[18:05] <Daisuke_Ido> the obvious question that pops up is: what has changed on your system since it was able to play video?
[18:05] <DreadKnight> kiefer: you need to get administrative rights over it and you can mess up things, i don't recommend doing such things as a linux newb :)
[18:05] <Daisuke_Ido> that includes anything you might have done, as well as software updates
[18:06] <kiefer> DreadKnight: Haha, Id like to hope that common sense plays a role in editing system files
[18:06] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: you'd think, wouldn't you?
[18:06] <Daisuke_Ido> but alas, most of the time that isn't the case
[18:06] <kiefer> Daisuke_Ido: Hehe, Too true
[18:07] <mefisto__> kiefer: if you edit xorg.conf, it's not a bad idea to make a backup of your current one first, so you can easily undo changes
[18:07] <DreadKnight> somebody tell kiefer where to find the xorg.conf file :) i'm whashing my hands xD
[18:07] <p-f> is there a way to change the steps by which my volume keys increment/decrement the volume? 12% per keypress is a bit too much.
[18:07] <lokpest> mefisto__: hmm, I cant frind that :(
[18:07] <sonic_> anyone having issues switching from users that use kde 4 and users that use kde 3.5.x? Specifically in sound programs will freeze in kde 3.5.8 if a user is on kde 4 then logs out and another logs in with 3.5.8.  amarok, xmms, etc, all freeze.
[18:07] <kiefer> mefisto__: Theres that common sense i was talking about ^_^
[18:07] <lokpest> mefisto__: not on a english version, im afraid
[18:07] <jcgkffycs> dose apt have anything like a reinstall command?
[18:07] <DreadKnight> mefisto__: what's the point in making a backup if you don't know how to restore it? xD
[18:07] <mefisto__> lokpest: in kaffeine, settings menu> xine engine parameters
[18:08] <kiefer> DreadKnight: I dont know how to use it, but I know how to use IRC clients anf Ubuntu help forums lmao
[18:08] <kiefer> and*
[18:08] <DreadKnight> xD
[18:08] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: check that ^ first, try x11 as your setting, see what that gets you
[18:08] <lokpest> mefisto__: already says auto
[18:09] <mefisto__> lokpest: try changing it to xv, that's the default I think
[18:09] <kiefer> Daisuke_Ido>  I must have missed something, could you say 'that' again? :)
[18:10] <lokpest> mefisto__: no good
[18:10] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: your issue is video, right?
[18:10] <kiefer> No lol, thats somebody else, Confusion hehe
[18:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ahhh...
[18:10] <kiefer> Its all good :)
[18:10] <Daisuke_Ido> my apologies.
[18:11] <kiefer> Haha, Easy mistake
[18:11]  * DreadKnight casts dispell on Daisuke_Ido
[18:11] <Daisuke_Ido> mefisto__: x11 is the "pretty much guaranteed to work"
[18:13] <mefisto__> which would be xshm in kaffeine settings, right?
[18:13] <lokpest> mefisto__: btw, it handles somethings like ogg-theora visual right though
[18:13] <mefisto__> lokpest: that suggests a codecs problem
[18:13] <Daisuke_Ido> theora's open.  the others are not...
[18:13] <lokpest> mefisto__: it strange as im not avare that i have messed with anything
[18:14] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm.
[18:14]  * Daisuke_Ido scratches his chin
[18:14] <lokpest> If I havent messed with it how could it be broken?
[18:14] <Daisuke_Ido> lokpest: i'm going to prescribe an install of kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:14] <mefisto__> lokpest: do you remember how you installed w32codecs?
[18:15] <lokpest> how can i se if i have it?
[18:15] <danya>  hello .. I'm having a problem after getting the update icon .. and try to install the updates I get this partial update msg and when i do click on it while installing I get this msg >> error authenticating those packages << and a list of the these packages .. what should I do ? .. I'm on gutsy gibbon ..
[18:15] <kiefer> Does anyone know of a location on teh web where I can download packs of wallpapers at once?
[18:15] <Daisuke_Ido> danya: you're using third-party repos?
[18:16] <danya> Daisuke_Ido : how can I know ?
[18:16] <DreadKnight> danya: i guess you should press Y and enter :P
[18:16] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: back on windows, there was a little thing called webshots, which was horrendously buggy and memory-intensive, but did just that, downloaded wallpaper packs and rotated them
[18:17] <danya> Daisuke_Ido : I'm using 3 softwares in 3rd party repos
[18:17] <kiefer> Haha I like it that you say "Back on windows" like we crossed the border and were deserters or something
[18:17] <kiefer> we defected! for the motherland!
[18:17] <Daisuke_Ido> i did defect, and i'm bringing as many people with me as i can :D
[18:17] <DreadKnight> i haven't used windoze for one year or more... lost track of time actually O_o
[18:18] <kiefer> Haha, I have to use windows, Uni only has WinXP and Mac OS X
[18:18] <kiefer> Screw Os X, So im a Windows expert, Always wanted to try Linux though :)
[18:19] <sigma_1234> !search
[18:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:19] <izzy_> linux is off the wall
[18:19] <kiefer> Lolz, I like the fact that its open source and free - Just amazing after using Windows for so many years
[18:19] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: laptop running ubuntu + virtualbox running xp
[18:20] <Daisuke_Ido> stay with your principles and stay compatible with campus :)
[18:20] <izzy_> i just dual boot
[18:20] <kiefer> Daisuke_Ido: Laptop running XP and Kubuntu 7.10 :)
[18:20] <DuEzZzIeR> hi
[18:20] <mefisto__> lokpest: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras as Daisuke_Ido suggested? that should install everything you need to play avi and other restricted formats
[18:20] <izzy_> yea
[18:20] <DuEzZzIeR> patitioned
[18:20] <izzy_> of course
[18:20] <kiefer> Yup, I need to be able to boot into XP for class :)
[18:20] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: i found something interesting you might be interested in: http://www.webilder.org/
[18:20] <kiefer> Cheers, ill take a look :D
[18:20] <DuEzZzIeR> of course
[18:21] <lokpest> mefisto__: could not find pakage "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[18:21] <izzy_> search in google to c how
[18:21] <lokpest> its multiverse?
[18:21] <Daisuke_Ido> uhh
[18:21] <Daisuke_Ido> are you running gutsy?
[18:21] <izzy_> yea
[18:21] <kiefer> Daisuke_Ido > Perfect - Tyvm :D
[18:22] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, not you, lokpest
[18:22] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: no worries
[18:22] <izzy_> u can dual boot vista, xp, and gusty
[18:22] <lokpest> but why do I need kubuntu-restricted-extras when It played fine last evning?
[18:22]  * lokpest is considering a reinstall of kubuntu
[18:22] <mefisto__> lokpest: that's why I asked how you installed the codecs in the first place
[18:23] <lokpest> mefisto__: Im not avare that i did
[18:23] <kiefer> My roommate has inter dual core, with a boot menu of: Kubuntu 7.10, Vista, and XP sp1 and XP sp2 (for developer reasons)
[18:23] <kiefer> intel*
[18:23] <lokpest> or how i did
[18:23] <lokpest> but the played allright
[18:23] <mefisto__> lokpest: make sure you have multiverse enabled in sources.list
[18:24] <lokpest> mefisto__: I guess It came as a dependecy
[18:24] <izzy_>   does ne one know how to use wep crack?
[18:27] <izzy_> does any 1 no how to use the wep crack?
[18:27] <lokpest> mefisto__: now, mplayer plays it, but kmplayer and kaffeine doesnt
[18:28] <lokpest> mefisto__: sounds like a xine problem right?
[18:28] <unagi> i find it sad that i have to use a virtual machine running windows in order to encode jpegs into a .mov
[18:28] <Daisuke_Ido> into a quicktime movie?
[18:28] <unagi> yea
[18:28] <unagi> for web streaming
[18:29] <kiefer> Ive stayed away from VM's ever since I worked on DevHook for PSP
[18:29] <unagi> apparently ffmpeg can do it but i cant figure it out
[18:29] <Daisuke_Ido> into a quicktime movie, where quicktime is a proprietary format supported only by apple, on only the OS X and windows platforms?
[18:29] <unagi> virtualbox seems to pretty tight
[18:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and you're surprised you have to do it through windows?
[18:29] <unagi> ........yea?
[18:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just saying, don't be surprised by the obvious
[18:30] <unagi> sometimes i hate my industry because no one ever understands why i need things
[18:30] <unagi> except of course by people in my industry
[18:30] <sigma_1234> lol
[18:30] <kiefer> Can anyone tell me if theres a free package thats eqivilent to PhotoShop?
[18:30] <unagi> kiefer: gimp
[18:30] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, and look into flash video for online streaming, ten million youtubers can't be wrong
[18:30] <sigma_1234> !search
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:30] <unagi> but wine runs photoshop
[18:31] <kiefer> unagi: cheers :)
[18:31] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: the GIMP, but there is a learning curve
[18:31] <sigma_1234> pretty slowly i bet
[18:31] <unagi> a HUGE learning curve
[18:31] <Daisuke_Ido> and someone tell my copy of WINE it runs photoshop.
[18:31] <unagi> ctrl + d does NOT deselect
[18:31] <unagi> and sigma............i havent noticed a difference
[18:31] <kiefer> Oh no, im getting sick of these damn curves i tell ya!
[18:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because apparently it hasn't gotten the memo
[18:31] <kiefer> Hahaha
[18:32] <sigma_1234> what kde search apps are available besides strigi?
[18:32] <unagi> i run it on virtual box
[18:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that's probably the best bet, especially if you have hardware virtualization
[18:32] <unagi> the best part of vbox is you can scale the memory and video memory
[18:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ...i don't.  not on here at least
[18:32] <sigma_1234> also does strigi reek havoc on hdd usage and percentage cpu used?
[18:33] <mefisto__> sigma_1234: I like searchmonkey, but it's gtk not kde
[18:34] <sigma_1234> yeah you told me about it yesterday. is strigi really as bad as they say it is?
[18:35] <sigma_1234> and can someone tell me why kubuntu cant connect to wep networks when ubuntu can on the exact same configs?
[18:36] <mefisto__> I don't know, but I couldn't get strigi to work properly so I gave up.
[18:36] <kiefer> stringi never ever returns any results for me, no matter what i search
[18:37] <sigma_1234> did you let it index files?
[18:37] <kiefer> Uhhhh... *Runs away*... So, No - Lol, Me=Linux newb :)
[18:37] <mefisto__> the indexing always hangs for me
[18:38] <sigma_1234> lol its all a learning curve
[18:38] <kiefer> I think when i use the "me=linux newb' excuse in a year from now, it wont work so well *shifty eyes*
[18:39] <sigma_1234> my advice. learn from the command line up
[18:39] <kiefer> Exactly what im doing ^_^
[18:39] <kiefer> Im doing all I can via Konsole, straying away from the sugar-coated gui
[18:39] <mefisto__> sigma_1234: maybe look into google desktop for searching?
[18:40] <coreymon77> hi everyone, my macbook all of a sudden stopped detecting my kubuntu box on the network (stopped allowing me to use screen sharing with it) how do i check if it is my linux box that is causing the problem
[18:41] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: it actually still works pretty well for me :D
[18:41] <kiefer> Lmao
[18:41] <Daisuke_Ido> just about a year and a half on *buntu
[18:41] <Daisuke_Ido> though i don't use kde anymore, i still hang out here for fun
[18:41] <kiefer> Gratz, Ive got 11 or so years on Windows :) lol
[18:42] <coreymon77> anyone know how to set up sharing on my kubuntu box, because it stopped working without using freenx
[18:42] <kiefer> Im hoping to migrate permenently to Linux :)
[18:42] <Daisuke_Ido> let's not start on windows.
[18:42] <sigma_1234> !wep
[18:42] <ubotu> WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:43] <kiefer> Haha, Yes, Lets not :))
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> 16 years starting with windown 3
[18:43] <BluesKaj> konqueror with samba, coreymon77
[18:43] <Megiddo> Hello, I'd like to know more about the 64-bit kubuntu. Is it able to run 32-bit apps in a compatibility mode?
[18:43] <coreymon77> erm
[18:43] <coreymon77> why use samba
[18:43] <kiefer> I used 3.1 for about 6 months
[18:43] <Daisuke_Ido> which overlaps the time i spent in dos :D
[18:43] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: this is a macbook
[18:43] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: samba isnt needed for macos, is it?
[18:43] <kiefer> Dos, those were the days.. *stares into space dreamily*
[18:43] <jmeng> Hey everyone, I have this external USB harddisk and I want it to be mounted in one specific directory every time I plug it in - how would I go about this? Any hints? Thanks :)
[18:44] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, dunno ..sorry :(
[18:44] <jmeng> That is, I _don't_ want it to be mounted in /media/disk...
[18:44] <Daisuke_Ido> 32 mb ram, desqview running my bbs and everything else...  hot.
[18:44] <DuEzZzIeR>  05h  2pblue  3buntu  3dzip  abikenow  abinit  about-this-computer  about-window  acerlaptop-wifi  ack  actgraph  activerdf  adacgh  add-apt-key  adelin-backup  adept  aedilis  afip-ng  agfxmbcs  aiccu  ailife  ain7-portal  ajato  akasha  akregator-newsgator  alphaflowforms  alqua  alsa-driver  alsa-lib  alsa-plugins  alsa-utils  alternative-music  amarok  ami  ancient-beast  andvare  anewt  animan  animu-player  anna  anton  aocapps  aphisreco
[18:44] <DuEzZzIeR> app-install-data-commercial  app-install-data-ubuntu  apparmor  apport  approximate  apt  apt-mirror  apt-offline  apt-setup  apt-sync  aptoncd  apturl  aqsis  arabian-linux  aranha  arbolage  archetype  archive-crawler  arcticwolf  ardverk  argouml  aria2  arialblack  ark  arpi  artoolkit  arts  asoundconf-ui  aspace  aspectc++  asterias-common  asterias-pylons  asusoled  aswvdial  at89prog  atali  atompub.el  atp  attem  audio-thumbnailers  audiodsplab
[18:44] <DuEzZzIeR>  audioformat  audioplayer  audioquake  auth-client-config  auto-ndiswrapprer  autobuild-list  autofsck
[18:44] <Megiddo> Hello, I'd like to know more about the 64-bit kubuntu. Is it able to run 32-bit apps in a compatibility mode?
[18:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i would call that spam...
[18:44] <DuEzZzIeR> ohh srry
[18:45] <woddf2> Hello
[18:45] <woddf2> I cannot mount my Windows partition!
[18:45] <DuEzZzIeR> :(
[18:45] <woddf2> I upgraded to Gutsy yesterday.
[18:45] <DuEzZzIeR> no big loss
[18:45] <Megiddo> Can anyone hear me? :-\
[18:45] <kiefer> Nope :)
[18:46] <Megiddo> Okay, I've had problems with freenet not sending my messages before... just checking
[18:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Megiddo: if no one's answering, chances are no one knows *right now*
[18:46] <DuEzZzIeR> what do you wanna know?
[18:46] <Megiddo> freenode*
[18:46] <BluesKaj> woddf2, pastebin your  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:46] <Megiddo> I want to know more about 64-bit kubuntu. Can it run any 32-bit app in a compatibility mode?
[18:46] <Megiddo> Is it worth using if I plan on using wine for windows games?
[18:46] <SlimeyPete> Megiddo: it is able to run 32-bit apps in a 32-bit chroot, I think.
[18:47] <SlimeyPete> though I've never tried it myself.
[18:47] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: did you mean /etc/fstab ?
[18:47] <Megiddo> Does it lose performance emulating 32-bit?
[18:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Megiddo: what makes you think you need the 64 bit version?
[18:47] <Megiddo> I like new things :)
[18:47] <SlimeyPete> Megiddo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[18:47] <BluesKaj> no mefisto__
[18:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Megiddo: then prepare for breakage
[18:48] <Megiddo> Thanks SlimeyPete
[18:48] <Daisuke_Ido> most things work perfectly and have 64-bit versions
[18:48] <woddf2> http://pastebin.com/m6565a57
[18:48] <DuEzZzIeR> the graphics are fine just not a lot of games made
[18:48] <woddf2> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m6565a57
[18:48] <Daisuke_Ido> the few that don't, yes you can run them in a 32-bit chroot
[18:48] <Megiddo> How about wine DuEzZzIeR? Would it be pointless to run wine under a 64-bit version?
[18:48] <kiefer> ROFL, Sorry for this off topic-ness, but my room-mate just informed me he spent last night downloading a 1.3gb torrent of simpsons episodes, that turned out to actually be 17 albums by a guy named 'yellowman'
[18:48] <woddf2> GRUB can boot it fine, though...
[18:48] <DuEzZzIeR> no
[18:49] <DuEzZzIeR> it would be ok for some things
[18:49] <Daisuke_Ido> kiefer: discussion of piracy, stuff like htat around here is pretty much a no-no.
[18:50] <DuEzZzIeR> i'm not a pirate but have played pirate games
[18:50] <DuEzZzIeR> hahahaha
[18:50] <BluesKaj> woddf2, your grub menu looks fine ...what happens when you try to boot into windows ?
[18:50] <woddf2> It works fine.
[18:50] <woddf2> I just can't mount it in Kubuntu.
[18:50] <DuEzZzIeR> it's defualting ?
[18:50] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: he can't mount his windows partition
[18:51] <BluesKaj> ok ,wod
[18:51] <kiefer> Daisuke_Ido: Theres a reason I dont download pirated files, 1) They are usually infected with nasty things, and 2) they are usually albums by yellowman, lmao.
[18:51] <DuEzZzIeR> press ctrl f4
[18:51] <BluesKaj> !NTFS | woddf2
[18:51] <ubotu> woddf2: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[18:51] <DuEzZzIeR> :)
[18:51] <DuEzZzIeR> during boot
[18:51] <DuEzZzIeR> gives a menu
[18:52] <DuEzZzIeR> u can figuer it out
[18:52] <DuEzZzIeR> kde right?
[18:53] <DuEzZzIeR> ...kewl
[18:53] <DuEzZzIeR> im know as infinitesadness
[18:53] <DuEzZzIeR> IS:(
[18:54] <DuEzZzIeR> ch.2
[18:55] <DuEzZzIeR>  <email address hidden>
[18:56] <kiefer> Okay guys, I'm off to bed - its 5:30am Lolll, Nighty night fellow Linuxers :))
[18:56] <DuEzZzIeR> bye
[18:56] <DuEzZzIeR> down to 3 smokes:(
[18:57] <mefisto__> go buy some more
[18:57] <woddf2> When I try to mount /dev/hda1 to /media/hda1, it tells me that it is not in /etc/fstab, but when I look at /etc/fstab, it is clearly there!
[18:58] <DuEzZzIeR> ...later maybe
[18:58] <DuEzZzIeR> down to 3 more dingers
[18:58] <DuEzZzIeR> :(
[18:59] <DuEzZzIeR> alright i'll go have fun
[18:59] <ignoramus> hi all... having a problem with mplayer.  I've installed (and re-installed) about 10 times now, but its still not recognized in Firefox (as shown in "about:config") and web sites still prompt me to download it... what gives?
[18:59] <DuEzZzIeR> bye
[18:59] <ignoramus> Adept shows mplayer, mplayer-plugin, and kmplayer are all installed
[19:00] <ignoramus> *i meant in "about:plugins".  soz
[19:00] <DuEzZzIeR> use adept
[19:00] <mefisto__> ignoramus: have you restarted firefox after installing mplayer-plugin?
[19:00] <DuEzZzIeR> its easy
[19:00] <ignoramus> mefisto__: yup a bunch of times
[19:01] <ignoramus> its not showing in .mozilla > plugins either :(
[19:01] <mefisto__> look in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[19:01] <DuEzZzIeR> find them?//
[19:01] <ignoramus> kk hang on
[19:02] <DuEzZzIeR> i really leaving
[19:02] <DuEzZzIeR> really
[19:02] <ignoramus> mefisto__:  it has java, flash, vlc, but no mplayer...
[19:02] <DuEzZzIeR> does   anyone play tribal wars?
[19:02] <DreadKnight> can somebody help me compile the latest wacom driver ? please :(
[19:02] <mefisto__> how about /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ?
[19:03] <DuEzZzIeR> what wacom sounds familuer
[19:03] <DreadKnight> DuEzZzIeR: ?
[19:04] <DreadKnight> the graphic tablet :P
[19:04] <ignoramus> mefisto__: same deal: helix, java, flash, no mplayer
[19:04] <DuEzZzIeR> i wanna be an tracktor operator
[19:05] <ignoramus> mefisto__: i've installed via Adept, didn't work, i've installed from sources (no errors) and still no joy :/
[19:05] <ignoramus> i just want to be able to view Divx streaming files... is there another plugin?
[19:05] <ignoramus> vlc pretty much handles everything else
[19:05] <mefisto__> there's a xine plugin
[19:05] <ignoramus> for divx?
[19:06] <DuEzZzIeR> if it's a windows program won't work w/out wine
[19:06] <mefisto__> I'm not sure if it plays divx
[19:06] <DuEzZzIeR> download wine
[19:06] <DuEzZzIeR> first
[19:06] <DuEzZzIeR> mount w/ wine
[19:06] <ignoramus> duezzzler: i have wine, but i really want to stay away from using Windows programs... (its not the "ubuntu way" ;)
[19:06] <DuEzZzIeR> if for windows
[19:07] <DuEzZzIeR> lol i agree
[19:07] <DuEzZzIeR> just trying to help
[19:07] <ignoramus> duezzzler: i still have a small windows partition that i use for photoshop, syncing my WM5 phone, etc, but I'm really trying to reduce my dependence on windows
[19:08] <ignoramus> thanks for trying to help, though :)
[19:08] <ignoramus> oh, and my Rosetta Stone language lessons :)  Other than that, i rarely use windows
[19:08] <DuEzZzIeR> if it's partitioned it should have nothing to do with your linux installation
[19:09] <ignoramus> DuEzZzIeR: no, it doesn't ... i'm just saying if i want to use windows programs, i'll boot into windows.  but i like ubuntu better :)
[19:09] <DuEzZzIeR> i use it to but don't tell anyone
[19:09] <ignoramus> haha :)
[19:10] <ignoramus> so anyone have any ideas why mplayer is showing as installed (per Adept), but no entries in any "plugins" folders???
[19:10] <mefisto__> ignoramus: maybe try uninstalling/reinstalling mplayer-plugin with apt-get, see if you get any errors when it installs
[19:11] <DuEzZzIeR> you deleted the plugin
[19:11] <ignoramus> mefisto__: what about the one i installed from source? will it remove that one as well?
[19:11] <DuEzZzIeR> del tree
[19:11] <ignoramus> DuEzZzIeR:  huh?
[19:12] <mefisto__> ignoramus: I don't know. anyone else know?
[19:13] <DuEzZzIeR> kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-powerpc.manifest
[19:14] <cva> ignoramus: make unistall, from the source directory
[19:14] <cva> s/unistall/uninstall
[19:14] <ignoramus> cva: ohhh... that's good to know - i was just doing a "ctrl+f" for anything with "mplayer" and deleting manually (doh!)
[19:14] <cap601> During the installation process I mistyped the computer name.  How can I change it?
[19:15] <DuEzZzIeR> format
[19:15] <DuEzZzIeR> reinstall
[19:16] <cva> cap601: the name is stored in /etc/hostname
[19:16] <DuEzZzIeR> ur admin
[19:16] <DuEzZzIeR> user profile
[19:17] <ignoramus> cap601: i think you can change it in System Settings > Network Settings > Change name associated with 127.0.0.1
[19:17] <DuEzZzIeR> yep
[19:18] <ignoramus> *make that "127.0.1.1"
[19:18] <ignoramus> 127.0.0.1 will always be "localhost
[19:19] <cap601> That appears to have worked, thanks
[19:20] <theunixgeek> If I use GParted to partition a disk with *buntu Linux, will my Linux partition still be bootable?
[19:22] <ignoramus> theunixgeek: should be, but you'll probably have to fix your GRUB to reflect the changes
[19:23] <ignoramus> theunixgeek: and so long as you don't touch your existing root and swap partitions
[19:27] <unagi> anyone know if a tv tuner will work with windows on a vm?
[19:27] <usuari> hola!
[19:29] <SlimeyPete> unagi: fairly unlikely, I'd have thought.
[19:29] <ignoramus> unagi: why would you want to do that?  I'm asking because there is probably a better way...
[19:29] <GSF1200S__> anyone have any issues with compiz cutting off the right side of titlebars when using kwin as the window manager
[19:29] <GSF1200S__> ?
[19:30] <unagi> because, even though it would be windows on a vm, im trying to get rid of any reason to dual boot with windows
[19:30] <unagi> ignoramus:
[19:31] <Cepko> aloha mates
[19:31] <unagi> mahalo cepko
[19:32] <ignoramus> unagi: just keep a small partition - many of us do.... what is wrong with that?
[19:32] <unagi> ..........you may enjoy restarting your pc...............i dont
[19:32] <mefisto__> I like to hear the beep when it restarts
[19:32] <unagi> i dont like waking up on a saturday getting out my laptop and going 'hrm, what do i want to do, do i want to watch tv.............or do i want to browse the internet, or do i want to work on more animations'
[19:32] <ignoramus> unagi: well, there are plenty of ways you can use tv tuners in ubuntu, have you looked into any of those???
[19:33] <unagi> ignoramus: yup
[19:33] <cva> unagi: why not use your tv tuner card within linux? mythtv works great.
[19:33] <ignoramus> and nothing?
[19:33] <ignoramus> yeah, mythtv is what is was thinking of...
[19:33] <Cepko> can i please have help installing kubuntu 7.10? I already have installed windows on first partition, then there is second unformated partition cca 30GB big that i want to have kubuntu on and 3th and 4th partition with data.im at step 4 from 6 atm and have no idea what to choose
[19:33] <unagi> mythtv doesnt work for me, and its ugly
[19:34] <unagi> i just wish there was something of media center quality for linux
[19:34] <cva> ugly? There are various themes for it. Usability is excellent. I've run it for years.
[19:34] <adrock358> Hey fellas.  Anyone know any progs to convert video to ipod video format?
[19:34] <ignoramus> unagi: you're not the only one... mythtv is the best linux has atm, but keep looking and you might find something else you like.
[19:34] <unagi> doesnt change the fact that it works for me
[19:34] <unagi> er
[19:34] <unagi> doesnt work
[19:34] <unagi> god im tired
[19:35] <cva> what card do you have?
[19:35] <Cepko> anyone? :-/
[19:35] <adrock358> unagi get some sleep
[19:35] <unagi> hp analogue/digital expresscard
[19:35] <ignoramus> cepko: in your case, i would use "Guided" method
[19:35] <kadam> I just installed Linux on a second drive, but it boots straight into Windows on the original drive.  I saw it install GRUB, but it didn't ask me where I'd like GRUB to be installed; I presume it placed it on the secondary drive.  How can I resolve this?
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> currently, if i select Chinese as system language in kubuntu, can it automatically make chinese input methods available on the desktop?
[19:35] <Cepko> wont it somehow damage my windows instalation?
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> like in Ubuntu, a "Enable Input of Complex Scripts"
[19:36] <Cepko> and there are 3 guided options
[19:36] <ignoramus> kadam: why don't you set the windows drive as a slave, and let the linux drive (with GRUB) decide what to boot?
[19:36] <adrock358> any know where I can look to get a prog for ipod video?
[19:36] <Taros> google?
[19:36] <NickPresta> adrock358, http://www.ipodlinux.org/Video_Convert. You can use mplayer to convert video for the ipod. (Replace ./mplayer.exe with just mplayer)
[19:36] <adrock358> you rock nickpresta
[19:36] <martijn81> Cepko: choose manual and install grub boot manager in the MBR
[19:37] <adrock358> nickpresta.  thanx
[19:37] <kadam> ignoramus: I'm not sure how I can do that.  I guess I can set the primary boot device as the secondary drive.  But I can't do master/slave;my primary drive is SATA RAID0, and my secondary drive is SATA... I didn't think those had M/S relationships...
[19:37] <NickPresta> adrock358, of course, there is no promise that will work but it is worth a shot
[19:37] <Cepko> martijn81: ok so here i go :)
[19:37] <Taros> I'm trying to install 7.10 from a live CD, however, it gets stuck on the install stage when it tries to detect and load the module for 'usb-storage'.  Is there some way around this issue?
[19:38] <adrock358> nickpresta.  mplayer for linux or for windows
[19:38] <adrock358> ?
[19:38] <Taros> Or does that stage of the install just take a particularly long time?
[19:38] <martijn81> Cepko: keep sda1 free though
[19:38] <Cepko> no root file system defined. please corect this form the partitioning mnu :-/
[19:38] <martijn81> as in do not install there
[19:38] <Cepko> when i select the unpartitioned space
[19:38] <ignoramus> kadam: yeah, you're right :( I don't know how to do master/slave with SATA... what if you physically switch the drives?? I really don't know... sorry.
[19:38] <adrock358> taros.  how long does it get stuck for man?
[19:38] <slow-motion> re
[19:39] <Taros> A good while.
[19:39] <Taros> Like, 15+ minutes.
[19:39] <martijn81> Cepko: probably need sda2 selected there, you should be able to check this with cfdisk
[19:39] <adrock358> ouch.  Taros.  You;ve got a problem there.  You may have a problem with your usb ports.  What sys are you running?
[19:39] <Taros> Oh dear.
[19:40] <NickPresta> adrock358, mplayer for linux. Although that site says you're using mplayer for windows, the options and such should work the same in Linux.
[19:40] <Taros> An Acer Aspire 5670 with duo core Centrinos.
[19:40] <kadam> ignoramus: I can't switch them, they're ondifferent controllers, and one's RAID 8)  Oh well,thank you for you idea :) I'll still try the boot priority thing...
[19:40] <adrock358> Nickpresta.  great man.  I'm sure it will work
[19:40] <adrock358> Thank you
[19:40] <jaguilera> hi ppl, i know it's not kubuntu's fault, but any hint on when will we have flash working on konqueror again?
[19:40] <adrock358> taros, 64 or 32 bit?
[19:40] <Taros> 32.
[19:41] <ignoramus> taros: can you disable USB temporarily in BIOS?
[19:41] <Taros> It's kind of ancient.  :(
[19:41] <Taros> Oh, good deal.
[19:41] <NickPresta> jaguilera, when it is fixed, it will be fixed. There is no timeline for the fix, as far as I know. There is a 'hacky' workaround, though, if you _need_ flash now.
[19:41] <adrock358> taros.  you should be all set bro.  one thing, you have to do it, check the validity of the cd after you have downloaded it, AND before you install it.  YOu follow?
[19:41] <Taros> Yeah, I did that.
[19:41] <jaguilera> NickPresta: it's not like "needing", I just don't really likefirefox
[19:42] <sigma16> can i get mailserver help here since no 1 is talking in dovecot
[19:42] <adrock358> taros?  dual core ancient?  Heck no.  i have a p4.
[19:42] <adrock358> taros.  and it all checked out?
[19:42] <Taros> Oh man, I'm sorry.
[19:42] <sigma16> adrock358: single is obsolete
[19:42] <Taros> Um, one sec.
[19:42] <adrock358> sigma16, oh no.  why don't you go back to eating cheezy poofs and watching South Park, will you?
[19:43] <Taros> *ROTFL*
[19:43] <martijn81> Cepko: do you get it along?
[19:43] <ignoramus> taros: ??
[19:43] <Cepko> martijn81: nope :)
[19:43] <Taros> One second, getting work done.
[19:43] <Cepko> martijn81: i PMed you but now i see its blocked :)
[19:43] <adrock358> taros, so it all checked out?
[19:44] <Cepko> martijn81: i have there:
[19:44] <Cepko> guided - resize SCSI5 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and use freed space
[19:44] <Cepko> podtym mam ze new partition size a scroler
[19:44] <Cepko> potom je tam ze: Guided - use entire disk
[19:44] <Cepko> podtym je SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda) - 320.1GB ATA moj disk
[19:44] <sigma16> some 1 help
[19:44] <Cepko> padtym = under that :)
[19:44] <sigma_1234> i wish kubuntu could configure as easily as ubuntu
[19:44] <Cepko> was talking to my friend :)
[19:44] <Cepko> *podtym
[19:44] <sigma_1234> !ask
[19:44] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:44] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: it is actually easier... unless you're trolling
[19:45] <Taros> I'm looking into it, trying to do a million things at once.  :)
[19:45] <Taros> One second.
[19:45] <martijn81> Cepko: you probably need to register for that
[19:45] <bfrog> ever since upgrading to 7.10 my volume fn- keys aren't working right
[19:45] <bfrog> same with brightness
[19:45] <bfrog> any ideas?
[19:45] <Cepko> martijn81: register where pls?
[19:46] <Cepko> martijn81: im new to lin :)
[19:46] <martijn81> Cepko: on freeode
[19:46] <martijn81> *freenode
[19:46] <adrock358> Taros.  you should know bro.  all you do is check the d/l'd file info against the proper file integrity listed on the webserver where you got it.  then, before you run livecd you click "check media."  Did you do this Taros?
[19:46] <sigma_1234> ignoramus: try wep encryption. one key can cause such a disaster
[19:47] <Cepko> martijn81: freenode? :)
[19:47] <adrock358> well. im me later for my e-mail if you have problems still
[19:47] <Taros> Yes, I did.
[19:48] <Taros> See ya!
[19:48] <Taros> Thanks for the help.
[19:48] <martijn81> Cepko: try /msg nickserv help
[19:49] <adrock358> hmm.  well, best thing in my opinion is back up important data, reformat everything, then install.  you should not have problems.  if you do then, then search the forums.  they have EVERYTHING there.  just have to find the right keyword, and be very, very patient.
[19:49] <adrock358> taros see message
[19:49] <Cepko> martijn81: thx
[19:50] <sigma16> adrock358: i thought u wer tellin me to reformat for a sec lolz...
[19:50] <Taros> Yeah, hahah, I did back up everything.
[19:50] <sigma_1234> im surprised knetworkmanager cant handle wireless
[19:50] <Taros> That's what I was trying to do, was a brand new install.
[19:50] <sigma16> sigma_1234: it can...
[19:50] <X9nLinuxX> I was just about to ask if there was a 'forum'... then realized the question should be 'where' more than if... so where is it?
[19:50] <ignoramus> sigma_1233: are there any problems in particular you need help with, or did you just come in to complain?
[19:50] <adrock358> taros. wow.  idk.  forums.
[19:50] <Taros> Yeah, cool, thanks.
[19:52] <sigma_1234> nope i found the solution. just wish someone would fix the gui. suppose i should file a bug
[19:52] <martijn81> Cepko: otherwise, use !pastbin
[19:52] <Flare183> !pastebin
[19:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:52] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: what was the problem?
[19:52] <martijn81> Cepko: i always choose manual
[19:53] <sigma_1234> oh does anyone know why lg dvd writers can't burn multisession disks in k3b? it keeps saying incremental streaming not available.
[19:53] <NickPresta> sigma_1234, I thought I read about this before but I think multi-session burning hasn't been written yet
[19:53] <martijn81> Cepko: just ask if you're not sure, i'll try to get you from there
[19:54] <sigma_1234> it wouldnt accept the wep key for some reason even if i entered it properly. i had to issue a konsole command to force it
[19:55] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: does k3b give you the override option to burn multisession anyway?
[19:55] <sigma_1234> NickPresta: worked in the sony drive on my dell laptop though :(
[19:55] <d0uglas> hi.. i want to get my clock synced to the UN or whatever with ntp. Do i want openntpd? wouldn't that be just to act as a server for other people?
[19:56] <NickPresta> sigma_1234, hmm. I don't know what to tell you =(
[19:56] <sigma_1234> nope no overide. just says it can't do it
[19:56] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: nerolinux should get the job done, and it's free if you already own a windows license....
[19:56] <d0uglas> oh wait ntpdate
[19:56] <sigma_1234> its free. really?
[19:57] <SlimeyPete> d0uglas: openntpd I think
[19:57] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: if you already have a windows copy with a valid license, yes :)
[19:58] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: of course, there are probably other ways to obtain it, but that would be wrong
[19:58] <sigma_1234> i have the oem one that came with the lg writer. does that count? it has a key
[19:59] <sigma_1234> lol
[19:59] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: maybe! look here > http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads-linux3-update.php
[19:59] <sigma_1234> i wanted to stay opensource though!
[19:59] <ignoramus> sigma_1234: imho, nero is the best burning app made *prepares for flames*
[20:00]  * kadam cries for installing Linux over his document drive...
[20:00] <SlimeyPete> heh, classic.
[20:00]  * ignoramus does really stupid things sometimes, too :(
[20:01] <kadam> hehheh, yeah, nothing to do but laugh about it...
[20:01] <ignoramus> lemonade, my friend
[20:01] <kadam> Oh well, on the plus side, I have KDE on my primary machine 8)
[20:02] <kadam> ignoramus: hehe, yeah...
[20:02] <sigma_1234> kadam: what happened to it?
[20:02] <kadam> Oh, I had to reinstall like 3 times, and the last time, I just selected the wrong drive...
[20:03] <unagi> bfrog
[20:03] <bfrog> ?
[20:03] <sigma_1234> backup:) . the magic linux word
[20:04] <kadam> I was going off the sizes, and just moved all my docs off the 160G to the 200G, but before, I had Linux on the 200G, so... I should have made some coffee before starting...
[20:04] <kadam> sigma_1234: That's the poopy part of it; I DID back it up, so I could rewrite over the original tho... I only have so many drives! hehe...
[20:04] <kubuntu_> can someone help me?
[20:05] <vhozard> i need help with a program called glc
[20:05] <vhozard> when i trie to compile it gives an error:
[20:06] <vhozard> info  : Building glc...
[20:06] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:22:17: fout: png.h: Bestand of map bestaat niet
[20:06] <vhozard> src/export/img.c: In functie ‘img_write_png’:
[20:06] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:225: fout: ‘png_structp’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:06] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:225: fout: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[20:06] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:225: fout: for each function it appears in.)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:225: fout: expected ‘;’ before ‘png_ptr’
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:226: fout: ‘png_infop’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:226: fout: expected ‘;’ before ‘info_ptr’
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:227: fout: ‘png_bytep’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:227: fout: ‘row_pointers’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <ignoramus> vhozard: !pastebin
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:236: fout: ‘png_ptr’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:236: fout: ‘PNG_LIBPNG_VER_STRING’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:237: fout: ‘png_voidp’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:238: fout: ‘info_ptr’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <sigma_1234> !paste
[20:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:241: fout: ‘PNG_COLOR_TYPE_RGB’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:242: fout: ‘PNG_INTERLACE_NONE’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:242: fout: ‘PNG_COMPRESSION_TYPE_DEFAULT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:07] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:243: fout: ‘PNG_FILTER_TYPE_DEFAULT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:08] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:245: fout: expected expression before ‘)’ token
[20:08] <vhozard> src/export/img.c:251: fout: ‘PNG_TRANSFORM_IDENTITY’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[20:08] <vhozard> make: *** [build/img.o] Fout 1
[20:08] <vhozard> error : Can't compile glc
[20:08] <vhozard> howto get it working?
[20:08] <vhozard> oh, ok
[20:08] <ignoramus> vhozard: for the love of god! !paste
[20:08] <sigma_1234> lol
[20:08] <vhozard> and now, i went to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:08] <vhozard> what to do?
[20:09] <sigma_1234> !paste
[20:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:09] <vhozard> !paste 54523
[20:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste 54523 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:09] <SlimeyPete> vhozard: past the text there, then save it and it will store on the server, then give us the url
[20:09] <vhozard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54523/
[20:09] <vhozard> sorry didnt know yet
[20:10] <vhozard> but what to do? i cant compile the program glc
[20:10] <vhozard> i installed all needed packages through apt-get, but it doesn't work
[20:11] <sigma_1234> is it not in the repo's?
[20:11] <sigma_1234> !info glc
[20:11] <ubotu> Package glc does not exist in gutsy
[20:11] <vhozard> its not in the repos
[20:11] <sigma_1234> ok clearly not
[20:12] <vhozard> its a utility similiar to FRAPS (recording gameplay)
[20:12] <sigma_1234> whats it used for?
[20:12] <vhozard> http://nullkey.ath.cx/projects/glc/
[20:13] <vhozard> can someone help me?, plz
[20:13] <sigma_1234> did you check at getdeb.net?
[20:14] <vhozard> yes
[20:14] <vhozard> cant find
[20:15] <oliv> hello world
[20:15] <vhozard> sigma, can you help?
[20:15] <yao_ziyuan> can Hardy Alpha 4 support chinese now?
[20:16] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, ask in #ubuntu+1. They can help you with Hardy questions
[20:17] <oliv> where can i get old fashened xnmap?
[20:17] <NickPresta> vhozard, did you install "build-essential libx11-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libasound2-dev"? Did you run the build script?
[20:17] <vhozard> yes and yes
[20:17] <oliv> where can i get old fashened xnmap?
[20:18] <vhozard> it gives that error in the buildscript
[20:18] <NickPresta> vhozard, and that pastebin were the errors you were getting?
[20:18] <vhozard> yes
[20:19] <vhozard> maybe you dont understand because i use dutch kubuntu, fout = error
[20:19] <NickPresta> vhozard, try installing: libpng12-dev
[20:19] <vhozard> ok
[20:19] <__-osh-__> Anyone who can help with this? It's on a HardyHeron. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54506/
[20:20] <NickPresta> !hardy | __-osh-__
[20:20] <ubotu> __-osh-__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:20] <oliv> i am a very handsome guy, thing is i am waiting for my wife at the airport and she hasn't shown up yet. What do i do? she happens to be invisible. Can anyone help?
[20:20] <vhozard> it worked!!! thanks
[20:20] <NickPresta> vhozard, email the author of that application and tell him he needs to update the depends.
[20:20] <vhozard> it's fine now, thank you!
[20:20] <vhozard> yes, i will tell him
[20:20] <NickPresta> vhozard, okay. :)
[20:20] <vhozard> thank you
[20:20] <vhozard> xD
[20:20] <vhozard> bye
[20:21] <NickPresta> oliv, you can take that problem to #kubuntu-offtopic. Maybe you can get help there
[20:22] <oliv> sweet thanks for the help
[20:26] <flipmode> I have a hp deskjet 5440 and i cant get it to work am running kubuntu 7.10
[20:27] <shaggy71875> hello
[20:28] <shaggy71875> trying to set up linuxmce
[20:28] <flipmode> I have a hp deskjet 5440 and i cant get it to work am running kubuntu 7.10
[20:28] <shaggy71875> http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ will these drivers work for kunbuntu?
[20:28] <shaggy71875> im such a linux noob
[20:29] <jussi01> !mint
[20:29] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[20:29] <shaggy71875>  and im also trying to get my magnavox 42mf230a plasma to work via the rs232 port
[20:30] <shaggy71875> #linuxmce
[20:35] <thewhitepelican> I see hardy is at alpha 4
[20:35] <thewhitepelican> way cool
[20:38] <ctex> Guys I am running Ubuntu but with the KDE desktop environment. Is there a way to update the KDE to 4.0?
[20:39] <flipstar> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[20:41] <ctex> How would I remove KDE 3?
[20:42] <sayers> Is there a WYSIWYG Webediter for KDE or atleast linux?
[20:42] <SlimeyPete> you can't, without removing all of the kubuntu desktop, ctex.
[20:42] <NickPresta> ctex, KDE 4.0 is still considered unstable by some. I would suggest that you keep KDE 3 in case KDE 4.0 breaks on you or doesn't do what you want
[20:42] <SlimeyPete> ctex: you could install ubuntu-desktop instead and then install kde4
[20:42] <SlimeyPete> that would probably work.
[20:43] <claydoh> sayers: Kompozer is wysiwyg html editor
[20:43] <claydoh> other thanusing Openoffice
[20:43] <ctex> That's what I am doing. Uninstalling kubuntu-desktop would be a pain, I haven't just installed the core packages unfortunately :(
[20:43] <NickPresta> sayers, at the risk of being unpopular, I would say drop the WYSIWYG editor. You can write far better HTML and CSS without it.
[20:44] <sayers> NickPresta: and you are not popular to me now
[20:44] <claydoh> well you have to learn somewhere, and wysiwyg is a good start
[20:44] <sayers> I'm a server admin not a web yes
[20:45] <claydoh> plus lompozer is pretty basic, as is the code generated
[20:45] <NickPresta> sayers, aww. But seriously, no WYSIWYG editor writes semantic AND standards compliant HTML/CSS. If you're going to use that and then modify the output to be semantic and such, you might as well write it by hand.
[20:45] <adrock358> totally random question guys, a shot in the dark.  can you get textbook torrents?
[20:46] <adrock358> or get them free on the next any way?
[20:46] <NickPresta> sayers, in that case, you should delegate the task to someone meant to write HTML documents :P I suppose if you must, there is Kompozer and NVU.
[20:47] <yzaLyzarC> Hello
[20:48] <flipstar> hi
[20:48] <yzaLyzarC> Kan I make kdm/kde autologout people?
[20:48] <adrock358> yzaLyzarC i don't know bro.  i'm too new\
[20:49] <yzaLyzarC> Ok
[20:49] <flipstar> you want kde to log out people ?
[20:49] <NickPresta> yzaLyzarC, I know you can use `skill` to halt a user and to kill and logout a user.
[20:51] <yzaLyzarC> Automagiacaly?
[20:52] <NickPresta> yzaLyzarC, to halt a user named 'nick', you could do: `sudo skill -STOP -u nick`
[20:52] <NickPresta> yzaLyzarC, to kill and log me out, `sudo skill -KILL -u nick`
[20:54]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles about amarok
[20:54] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, what about it?
[20:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Audio output unavailable; the device is busy
[20:57] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, try restart xine/audio engine in System Settings or kill the offending process which is using your audio.
[20:57] <yzaLyzarC> But that makes me have to make me kick them manually, I'm lazy!
[20:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not using kde, system settings isn't an option :)
[20:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but i see what you mean
[20:58] <tashiro_> My nmap is running very slooow even with the "-T4" option enabled________ help
[20:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i know there's a command to check to see what processes are using /dev/dsp
[20:59] <NickPresta> yzaLyzarC, can you write a GUI frontend to `skill` if you want. :) Or put it on a cronjob if it happens at the same time everyday
[20:59] <yzaLyzarC> It is random users, ho forgett to log out, then the other users cant log in because it is locked.
[20:59] <batis610> can i have desktop effects under kde or i have to install gnome?
[21:00] <yzaLyzarC> So I need it automagicaly do it
[21:00] <g2g591> batis610: of course you can have it under kde
[21:00] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, try `ps faux`
[21:00] <flipstar> tashiro_: maybe the host itself is slow ? our you using different scan techniques like -sS and -sV at the same time ..
[21:00] <NickPresta> yzaLyzarC, you could just write a script that checked for any users who forgot to logout and then log them out. Put that on a cronjob to run every minute or something
[21:01] <adrock358> Hey I have a question.  I'm using Pidgin.  How do I connect to another server cient?
[21:01] <flipstar> !compiz | batis610
[21:01] <g2g591> batis610: just install compiz-kde and simple-ccsm and compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:01] <ubotu> batis610: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:01] <yzaLyzarC> I only write php/javascript, and is pretty sure this funktion exsist
[21:01] <batis610> thks.. i'll try that
[21:02] <flipstar> adrock358: what do you mean connecting to another server client ?
[21:02] <adrock358> like another network
[21:02] <Daisuke_Ido> still nada
[21:03] <adrock358> flipstar read message
[21:03] <flipstar> you can select the protocoll when you create account adrock358
[21:04] <flipstar> like icq msn yahoo and so on
[21:04] <adrock358> only for a limited few flipstar
[21:04] <flipstar> i've like 13 choises..
[21:05] <adrock358> flipstar, dude there are thousands of networks
[21:05] <flipstar> need an different protocoll then listed there ?
[21:05] <flipstar> uhm i think i dont get it
[21:06] <adrock358> there's networks from all around the work.  some from russia, some from china....IRC ubuntu is only one network, with a limited list of channels.  Other servers have other channels.
[21:06] <adrock358> flipstar read message
[21:07] <flipstar> we still talking about pidgin ?
[21:07] <adrock358> flipstar do some reading bro
[21:08] <g2g591> adrock358: are you talking about irc? (the protocal that we are talking on now)
[21:09] <g2g591> adrock358: i think pidgin has support for irc ( and other protocals) and of course it doesn't just support this server
[21:09] <puika> http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493
[21:10] <flipstar> as far as i know pidgin does not support irc
[21:11] <kadam> From the GRUB prompt, how  can I add a new option for an existing device and OS ?
[21:11] <kadam> flipstar: It does
[21:11] <flipstar> how ?
[21:11] <mkquist> pidgin does support irc
[21:11] <mkquist> btw
[21:11] <adrock358> g2g591 all i'm saying is how do i log onto another network
[21:11] <kadam> flipstar: Not sure, prolly something the developers implemented...
[21:11] <flipstar> damn youre right
[21:12] <adrock358> flipstar.  yeah it definitly does
[21:12] <gigui> goed avond allemaal!!!!
[21:12] <flipstar> adrock358: you can select it when you create that account
[21:12] <g2g591> adrock358: i don't know, i don't use pidgin ( or kopete)
[21:12] <flipstar> there you can select the server
[21:12] <adrock358> g2g591 can you log onto another network using a different client?
[21:12] <adrock358> g2g591 i want to log onto undernet
[21:13] <g2g591> adrock358: look at flibstar's post
[21:13] <mkquist> adrock358: are you trying for two networks at once?
[21:13] <mkquist> like using one client here and another for another network?
[21:14] <gigui> does any one now how to install in kubunto
[21:14] <adrock358> g2g591 yeah only a limited few.  can't input a name of a network.  my question is: i want to log onto the undernet network, then join a channel.  how do i do that?
[21:14] <flipstar> let me check that
[21:15] <gigui> i just kan't install nathing in kubuntu.... why?
[21:15] <adrock358> gigui "kan't"  come on...
[21:15] <mkquist> gigui: what specifically are u trying to do?
[21:15] <adrock358> gigui.  english....english
[21:16] <g2g591> adrock358: well, i use konversation, so on the server list that appears when you start, you would hit new , then put in the server name (like irc.freenode.net) then add chanels you want to automaticly join
[21:16] <mkquist> adrock358: when you join just type /join #whatever channel
[21:16] <gigui> sinds last weke i,m trying to install ftd4linux and other software ,nuthing works
[21:17] <mkquist> adrock358: is that it?
[21:17] <stunatra> gigui, it works if you do it right.
[21:17] <flipstar> hm cant get it working for now (irc in pidgin)
[21:17] <gigui> houw i folllow the readme file and using the terminal
[21:17] <stunatra> Pidgin for IRC? Ew
[21:18] <mkquist> flipstar: irc works in pidgin, justed tried it again to be sure....
[21:18] <unagi> how do i search for files with kubuntu
[21:18] <SlimeyPete> !find
[21:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> heh
[21:19] <adrock358> g2g591.  thanks a lot for the response bro.  i really appreciate that.  I'm using Xchat now, I ahve the undernet network selected, but anyway, it keeps disconnecting me saying connection reset by peer. any advice?  Thank you.
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> unagi: you can use "find" or "locate" from the command line, or install strigi... I don't know how to do it in the file browser
[21:19] <scott_> can some help me i keep getting Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". when i run glxgears
[21:19] <unagi> strigi doesnt make sense to me
[21:19] <adrock358> mkquist.  no server, not channel
[21:20] <mkquist> adrock358: you mean how do you pick a server?
[21:20] <pacman> stupid question, and I should know better
[21:20] <flipstar> adrock358: you choosed a server at account creating ?
[21:20] <pacman> I plugged in another hard drive into my motherboard
[21:20] <pacman> how do I search for it so I can mount it
[21:21] <flipstar> test sudo fdisk -l
[21:21] <Daisuke_Ido> fdisk -l
[21:21] <pacman> thank you
[21:21] <DreadKnight> what file do i have to edit to disable the kde4 effects? i've activated them and i don't see anything in my kde4 session
[21:21] <adrock358> mkquist.  you gotta do some reading man.  server.  irc is type of chat.  ubuntu, or freenode i think it's called, is a server.  aim another server...icq...there are lots....
[21:21] <gigui> how to install firefox ....
[21:21] <pacman> hmm, that's only showing my external hd
[21:21] <flipstar> adrock358: youre wrong these are protocolls ..
[21:21] <adrock358> g2g591 you there?
[21:21] <Daisuke_Ido> adrock358: it would be better if you got your terms right.  irc is a protocol
[21:22] <mkquist> adrock358: i understand that all that, just not quite what ur having problems with...
[21:22] <flipstar> then check /var/log/messages while you plug it in pacman
[21:22] <mkquist> adrock358: and Daisuke_Ido is correct.. =p
[21:22] <DreadKnight> gigui: was that a question?
[21:22] <pacman> I'm not familiar with that, flip
[21:22] <adrock358> why are you guys not understanding?  if you don't get it, you won't.  so best to move on from the topic.
[21:23] <Daisuke_Ido> we understand you don't know how to phrase your question, but that's about it
[21:23] <flipstar> just use plug it in and do a cat /var/log/messages in the konsole pacman
[21:23] <gigui> kan anyone help mi with this in kubuntu.....
[21:23] <gigui> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:23] <gigui> See `config.log' for more details.
[21:23] <flipstar> err this sentence make no sense
[21:23] <mkquist> adrock358: you wanna log onto freenode, or whatever, just set it up in accounts, you want a channel once your on that server, then just /join... simple
[21:24] <mkquist> no more then...
[21:24] <pacman> that was a really long group of messages
[21:24] <flipstar> gigui: install build-essentials
[21:24] <flipstar> just check the last lines..
[21:24] <unagi> hold down the power button for 4 seconds........thats how i connect
[21:25] <kalorin> does anyone know of a google IM type app for linux?
[21:25] <Daisuke_Ido> pidgin will do it
[21:25] <unagi> !aim
[21:25] <gigui> where kan i find it?
[21:25] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[21:25] <flipstar> in adept_manaer gigui
[21:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing.  since gtalk is jabber
[21:25] <flipstar> *manager
[21:25] <unagi> blah kopete is stupid!
[21:25] <unagi> =(
[21:25] <kalorin> kopete keeps dropping yahoo over and voer
[21:25] <kalorin> not much fun
[21:26] <kalorin> it's ok, but just not really stable
[21:26] <unagi> ok tip for the day.........do not use find / file............it takes forever =)
[21:26] <unagi> kopete wont open for me
[21:26] <DreadKnight> you meant kopete-kde4?
[21:26] <Chas> I want to install real playeron my new kubuntu - can someone please tell me how to do this?
[21:26] <flipstar> kalorin: piding for e.g supports google talk
[21:26] <kalorin> k
[21:26] <kalorin> thanks
[21:26] <unagi> kopete-kde4?
[21:27] <pacman> hey flip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54530/
[21:27] <flipstar> Chas: real-player is proprietary you really want to do this ?
[21:28] <unagi> realplayer?
[21:28] <flipstar> pacman: your drive is on /dev/sdc1
[21:28] <unagi> lol real media still exists?
[21:28] <gigui> build-essentails ...is that the real name just kan't find it!!!!!
[21:28] <flipstar> without 's
[21:28] <flipstar> sry
[21:28] <kalorin> wow
[21:28] <kalorin> digikam has always been pretty solid for me until today
[21:28] <SlimeyPete> gigui: build-essential
[21:28] <kalorin> now it starts up and just goes into lala land
[21:28] <flipstar> maybe there few typos in gigui
[21:29] <Chas> flipstar: ok then if not realplayer then what about flashplayer?
[21:29] <scott_> can someone help me with this error 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".'
[21:29] <pacman> mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/disk busy
[21:29] <pacman> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/disk
[21:30] <flipstar> Chas: helix-player supports the real format
[21:30] <unagi> i love virtual machines
[21:30] <unagi> theyre so cool
[21:30] <flipstar> pacman: this pastebin is just after you plugged the device in ?
[21:30] <Chas> flipstar: ok thanks I'll try that
[21:30] <pacman> yes
[21:31] <pacman> it was already plugged in when I booted up....should I unplug it and plug it in again?
[21:31] <gigui> flipstar ... thanks i found it installing nouw
[21:31] <pacman> and does it matter which SATA port I plug into?
[21:31] <flipstar> no..
[21:32] <pacman> that HD has an older version of Kubuntu on it...I thought I burned it up, but I need some files off of it if I can somehow recover them
[21:32] <flipstar> yes you could try to unplug it and plug it again in..then check the messages
[21:32] <sveri> scott_: you need to install a driver which supports 3d
[21:32] <sveri> scott_: which graphic card do u use?
[21:33] <Chas> flipstar: can't find helix-player in adept
[21:33] <g2g591> Chas: manager or add/remove , if you can't find in add/remove look in manager
[21:34] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54533/
[21:34] <flipstar> Chas: you have the multiverse repository enabled ?
[21:35] <flipstar> uhm thats all pacman..theres no drive location..
[21:35] <mefisto__> helix-player is in universe, isn't it?
[21:35] <flipstar> it still isnt listed via fdisk ?
[21:35] <flipstar> right
[21:35] <DreadKnight> what file do i have to edit to disable the kde4 effects? i've activated them and i don't see anything in my kde4 session
[21:36] <pacman> no, it only shows my external HD
[21:36] <gigui> flipstar ???  just doesn't work alweis the same anser???  C can't do executbles
[21:37] <gigui> whi??
[21:37] <flipstar> !compile > gigui
[21:38] <pacman> I'm lying, flip
[21:38] <pacman> now I'm showing more HD's after I logged in as sudo bash
[21:40] <pacman> flip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54535/
[21:40] <Chas> flipstar: helix-player not found anywhere
[21:40] <flipstar> in universe repository it is ..
[21:41] <flipstar> !info helix-player < Chas
[21:41] <ubotu> helix-player (source: helix-player): the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (gutsy), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)
[21:41] <Chas> flipstar: as far as I know multiverse repository is not enabled - how do I do that?
[21:41] <SlimeyPete> !repos
[21:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:41] <flipstar> *universe Chas
[21:42] <SlimeyPete> !universe
[21:42] <flipstar> right pacman than just pick that one that is your backup drive and mount it ;)
[21:42] <pacman> it won't let me mount
[21:42] <flipstar> did that sudo before ?
[21:42] <pacman> yes
[21:45] <flipstar> pacman just try sudo mkdir /media/backup ;sudo mount /dev/sdb /media backup                  i just suggest /dev/sdb is your backup drive..corret it with the right one
[21:45] <kadam> Might anyone know why I'm getting a blank screen with nothing but "Starting Up" when I try to start Windows from GRUB?
[21:46] <flipstar> how did you installed grub ?
[21:47] <pacman> flip:  on the second command, it says to select filesystem type
[21:47] <kadam> flipstar: It installed automatically to the drive I installed Linux to, and in my BIOS I set it to boot to that drive first... Then I manually added the Windows drive/partition
[21:47] <pacman> err, specify filesystem type
[21:47] <flipstar> isnt it ext3 ? pacman
[21:47] <pacman> yes
[21:47] <backatcha> is there a torrent for the lastest i386 version of Kubuntu?
[21:47] <backatcha> cd not dvd
[21:48] <enry> good night
[21:48] <flipstar> torrent.ubuntu.com backatcha
[21:48] <backatcha> only seeing the dvd
[21:49] <flipstar> with latest you mean gutsy ?
[21:49] <backatcha> yea
[21:49] <backatcha> i think i found
[21:49] <backatcha> under simple right?
[21:50] <flipstar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[21:50] <backatcha> ok
[21:50] <Kostmayer> gutsy didn't work that well on mine, gave up on ubuntu after that
[21:50] <backatcha> oh yea?
[21:50] <backatcha> what did you go with
[21:50] <Kostmayer> just put 7.04 back on it on a whim after reading it works better
[21:51] <Kostmayer> should have read up first really, theres know issues with 7:10 and me laptop :)
[21:51] <unagi> im trying to install a deb that i downloaded from virtualbox.org and im getting         trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko                      ', which is also in package virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[21:51] <flipstar> pacman what about sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /media/backup  ?
[21:51] <unagi> what does that mean
[21:51] <backatcha> has anybody ran vmware server on linux to run windows xp seamlessly?
[21:51] <flats> anyone here familiar with the "ultimate" edition?  All I need to know is will it Install Ubuntu or do I have to install the 7.1 version first, then run the ultimate dvd?
[21:52] <unagi> backatcha: define seamless
[21:52] <g2g591> unagi: it means you cant have virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic and that virtualbox deb installed at the same time
[21:52] <backatcha> it shows the only the app your running instead of the the virtual machine
[21:52] <pacman> flip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54537/
[21:52] <kadam> Can I have GRUB on one drive, and still boot Windows from another drive?
[21:53] <unagi> I sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-ose.........do i have to do more?
[21:53] <g2g591> kadam: yep
[21:53] <g2g591> unagi: i don't think so
[21:53] <kadam> g2g591: Might you have any thoughts why I'm freezing at "Starting Up..." when I try to boot Windows?
[21:54] <unagi> what else can i do
[21:54] <pacman> because it's Windows?
[21:54] <unagi> kadam: because windows blows
[21:54] <pacman> beat you to it, unagi
[21:54] <unagi> blah
[21:54] <unagi> im too focused on my vbox problem
[21:55] <pacman> I need to access this other drive...it has my 2006 taxes on it and I need it for school
[21:55] <backatcha> http://www.linux.com/feature/124908
[21:55] <backatcha> thats what i want to do
[21:55] <danopia> `meep
[21:55] <danopia> opps
[21:55] <danopia> sry
[21:55] <unagi> how do you completely remove a package with apt-get
[21:55] <backatcha> is there a image program other then gimp for linux that is good as photoshop?
[21:55] <g2g591> kadam: if windows is on the second drive, (eg sdb , hdb) it won't boot, google on how to fix it
[21:56] <unagi> backatcha: no
[21:56] <emilsedgh> sudo apt-get remove --purge PackageName
[21:56] <unagi> backatcha: just run photoshop with wine
[21:56] <g2g591> unagi: sudo apt-get purge ...
[21:56] <backatcha> can you run napster in wine too?
[21:56] <unagi> i dont know
[21:56] <unagi> i dont pay for music
[21:56] <backatcha> lol me either just the wife
[21:57] <kadam> g2g591: Okay, thanks!
[21:57] <unagi> ugh i dont get it.........if virtual box isnt installed why do i get that error
[21:57] <g2g591> unagi: sudo apt-get purge virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[21:57] <flats> No ubuntu ultimate users?  bummer
[21:58] <flipstar> pacman: does sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -l work ?
[21:59] <pacman> yes
[21:59] <pacman> you want me to pastebin it?
[21:59] <unagi> whats the point of ubuntu ultimate
[22:00] <flats> It's Ubuntu with all the extra software preinstalled so I don't have to spend 2 days downloading all the things I may need
[22:00] <unagi> you spend 10 removing crap you dont
[22:01] <unagi> makes sense
[22:01] <flats> disc space isn't an issue, I just ahte everytime I try to install something I have 5 other dependencies that I need and the simple install now takes an hour
[22:02] <flipstar> no .. pacman .. is it listed as LINUX ?
[22:02] <mkquist> ultimate just looks like a really bloated version
[22:02] <MaskedOne> I have a color oriented problem, anyone wanna help?
[22:02] <pacman> yes
[22:02] <unagi> yup
[22:02] <pacman> I have 4 hard drives plugged in right now, flip
[22:02] <unagi> im an animator..........disk space is always an issue
[22:02] <mkquist> unagi: lol
[22:02] <pacman> I'm a pornoholic....disk space is always an issue
[22:02] <flats> hehe nice
[22:03] <MaskedOne> How do i change the window background color in Konq?
[22:03] <mkquist> flats: so if u want ultimate, why not just install it?
[22:04] <flipstar> pacman: i dont know why it dont mount partition table seems okay..maybe fsck will help you trough this ..
[22:04] <flats> Well I'm dl'ing now but I don't have my original kubuntu install cd.  I'm not sure if I have to install kubuntu first or if the ultimate is the whole bootable OS
[22:04] <pacman> I tried to boot from that drive, but it wouldn't let me
[22:04] <unagi> ??
[22:04] <mkquist> flats- its the whole shegang
[22:04] <flats> If not I have to re dl kubuntu
[22:04] <unagi> what else would it be
[22:04] <mkquist> lol shebang*
[22:05] <flats> I wasn't sure if it was just a b unch of add on's.  I couldn't find any thing that really described if it's the OS or not
[22:05] <mkquist> flats: but its ubuntu, not kubuntu i believe
[22:05] <saulo> HELLO
[22:05] <mkquist> saulo: HELLO
[22:05] <flats> 1.7 has both, I Kubunut and an Ubuntu version
[22:05] <saulo> brasilian
[22:06] <sigma16> i sthere a way to make my numpad work?
[22:06] <saulo> tem algum brasileiro
[22:06] <flats> and as soon as I say that I just found out I picked the Ubuntu version...Darnit
[22:06] <mkquist> sigma16: NumLock on?
[22:06] <flats> Oh well
[22:06] <mkquist> flats: lmao, sorry but thats funny
[22:06] <no0tic> saulo, #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-br
[22:06] <sigma16> mkquist: numlock doesnt affect it
[22:06] <sigma16> mkquist: if its on/off it still dont work
[22:07] <flats> AHhh I think I can just install the KDE after wards
[22:07] <flats> And now I'm installing software again.....Never ends
[22:08] <flipstar> pacman: whats the message during boot ? i would try fsck anyway
[22:13] <pacman> flip:  it starts to boot up, but I can't remember what the error message is
[22:14] <sigma16> can any 1 help me with my keypad problem?
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> guys, I need to disable rich text in kopete
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> do I need to do it per contact?
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> grep Enable kopeterc | grep Rich | wc -l -> this gives me... 43 lines
[22:20] <mefisto__> sigma16: is it a laptop?
[22:23] <flipstar> btw which irc client you recommend ?
[22:23] <flipstar> konversation isn great at all..
[22:23] <jpatrick> flipstar: irssi
[22:23] <flipstar> thanks
[22:23] <mefisto__> rysiek|pl: in configure>appearance>formatting overrides "do not show user specified rich text"  Is that what you want?
[22:26] <flipstar> damn this here is an console client ..
[22:26] <jpatrick> flipstar: welcome to real irc
[22:26] <flipstar> i rather mean an graphical one..
[22:26] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: uhm... I can't find it in my kopete
[22:26] <pacman> any other ideas for me, flip?
[22:26] <jpatrick> !clients
[22:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:26] <jpatrick> !irc
[22:26] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[22:26] <flipstar> did you used fsck pacman ?
[22:26] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: what version are you running? I'm on 0.12.7
[22:26] <pacman> yes
[22:27] <mefisto__> rysiek|pl: in the "colours and fonts" tab
[22:27] <flipstar> uhm at least konsole-kde4 allow to copy urls ..
[22:27] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: I don't seem to have anything like that (although I am running a Polish version here)
[22:28] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: gimme a sec
[22:28] <flipstar> sorry pacman than im out of ideas..
[22:28] <jpatrick> flipstar: you can click iirc
[22:29] <rysiek|pl> oh ffs
[22:29] <jpatrick> !ohmy | rysiek|pl
[22:29] <ubotu> rysiek|pl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:29] <pacman> wonder what would happen if I unplugged all my HD except sdb1 and boot from disk
[22:29] <rysiek|pl> oops
[22:29] <flipstar> i'll give KvIRC a try..
[22:29] <rysiek|pl> jpatrick: that was "oh for friend's sake" ;)
[22:30] <unagi> kde looks so nice even with composite extensions turned off
[22:31] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: the only similar checkboxes I have are: "Do not show user-selected background color"; "Do not show user-selected font color" and "Do not show user-selected formatted text color"
[22:32] <pacman> flip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54542/
[22:32] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: although those are translated adlib from Polish now so they might be a wee bit different in original english translation
[22:32] <unagi> why is the package manager telling me only one can be open at a time when only one is open
[22:32] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: would you be so kind and make a screenhsot of the settings window, with this option highlighted?
[22:33] <mefisto__> rysiek|pl: the last one, in my english version is "do not show user specified rich text"
[22:33] <flipstar> did it correct something pacman ?
[22:33] <flipstar> if yes you might try now..
[22:33] <pacman> not that I can tell, although it says it did
[22:34] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: I have got it selected and it doesn't work :/
[22:34] <kadam> Is there a kde4 package in the default repos now, or should I do it the way I did it Jan. 11th?
[22:34] <pacman> I tried to sudo mount /dev/sdb1 and that's not working
[22:35] <flipstar> same message ?
[22:35] <pacman> mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:35] <flipstar> great than fsck fixed your drive :)
[22:35] <flipstar> now you just have to add it in fstab
[22:36] <pacman> and how do I do that again?
[22:36] <unagi> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time,  Please close the other application e.g. 'Update Manager', 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first................can someone help me troublshoot why im getting this (implying obviously that i dont have more than one package manager going)
[22:36] <mefisto__> rysiek|pl: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/iconmefisto/kopete.png
[22:37] <flipstar> btw i think i'll stay at Konversation..
[22:37] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: great, thanks
[22:37] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: it doesn't work here, though
[22:38] <rysiek|pl> mefisto__: ah, nvm. sed -i -r -e 's/EnableRichText=true/EnableRichText=false/' kopeterc does the job nicely
[22:40] <pacman> hey flip, does this mean I should be able to boot into that drive now?
[22:40] <pacman> hey flip, does this mean I should be able to boot into that drive now?
[22:41] <flipstar> right, as soon as you added an entry in fstab
[22:41] <pacman> that drive has it's own fstab
[22:42] <pacman> do I still need to update the fstab on this drive?
[22:42] <flipstar> is this fstab entry correct ?
[22:43] <flipstar> remember you tried to mount into /media/backup ..
[22:43] <pacman> <[22:43] <pacman> I haven't done anything to fstab
[22:43] <flipstar> just show me that fstab then ..
[22:44] <piotr_> Jest tu moze ktos z Polaków do pomocy lamerowi  ;> ?
[22:45] <flipstar> !pl > piotr_
[22:45] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54546/
[22:47] <flipstar> there is no entry for the sdb ..
[22:47] <pacman> I'm not familiar with editing the fstab
[22:48] <flipstar> which partition you want to mount ? sdb1 sdb2 or sdb3 or..?
[22:48] <pacman> whichever
[22:48] <pacman> whatever makes it work
[22:50] <flipstar> for sdb1.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54548/
[22:50] <pacman> copy/paste that to my fstab?
[22:50] <pacman> replace my current fstab with that?
[22:51] <flipstar> yes replace it
[22:51] <flipstar> i just added an line
[22:57] <pacman> okay, it's up
[22:57] <pacman> will I be able to boot from there?
[22:57] <flipstar> hm boot from /media/backup ? no
[22:57] <flipstar> but you'll able to boot from that drive
[22:57] <pacman> sdb1?
[22:58] <flipstar> yes just select it from bios like you did prevously ..
[22:58] <pacman> *nods*
[22:58] <pacman> sweet, thank you
[22:59] <flipmode> how do i enable wma support in k3b?
[23:00] <g2g591> flipmode: do you have win32codecs installed?
[23:01] <g2g591> flipmode: if not, install kubuntu restricted extras (multiverse repository) , then run kbuildsyscoca then check if it does
[23:02] <flipmode> g2g591: i do have restricted extras installed but how do i get win32codecs?
[23:03] <g2g591> flipmode: if you have restricted extras, it depends on win32codecs and a bunch of other stuff. so i don't know how to help i guess
[23:03] <flipstar> !win32codecs > flipmode
[23:05] <mefisto__> I think it's w32codecs
[23:05] <flipstar> works both :)
[23:06] <OOD> anyone here somewhat technically knowledgable about hard drive mounting? I have a hard drive (/dev/sdb1), except the actualy /dev/sdb1 file in dev does not exist
[23:07] <flipstar>  /dev is a fake dir anyway
[23:07] <flipstar> try sudo fdisk -l OOD
[23:08] <OOD> flipstar: yeah I've done that, it reports the second hard drive as /dev/sdb1
[23:08] <flipstar> and sudo /dev/sdb1 -l ?
[23:08] <flipstar> wait
[23:08] <flipstar> sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1 -l
[23:09] <OOD> i get no output
[23:10] <flipstar> odd
[23:11] <OOD> flipstar: this problem just appeared randomly one day
[23:15] <gameplayer> hello
[23:15] <epimeth> ahoy
[23:16] <epimeth> soooo... virtualbox, or vmware?
[23:16] <BluesKaj> dualboot
[23:16] <gameplayer> i've got a problem withe kaffeine : when i try to play a video, the player freezes 4- 5 seconds, then the sound start to play and the image is black, and then the player crashes
[23:17] <gameplayer> anyone has an idea how to solve this problem ?
[23:17] <epimeth> BluesKaj: yes.  besides that.  virtualbox or vmware?
[23:18] <BluesKaj> neither , both are a PITA and lotta apps won't run properly, espedially online stuff
[23:18] <epimeth> gameplayer: is this for any video or just a specific one you are trying?
[23:19] <g2g591> epimeth: virtualbox is fine, online stuff worked fine here
[23:19] <gameplayer> any video
[23:19] <epimeth> BluesKaj: PITA?
[23:19] <BluesKaj> well, epimeth , that's just my experience
[23:19] <BluesKaj> Pain In The A**
[23:19] <epimeth> right :-)
[23:20] <epimeth> I remember using vmware back a few years ago... had to install a special kernel and everything
[23:20] <epimeth> g2g591: you prefer virtualbox?
[23:21] <g2g591> epimeth: i do, partially becasue in order to use vmware (server) you have to register and some other stuff. and virtualbox works pretty well
[23:22] <tillz> hello?
[23:22] <g2g591> epimeth: vmware is just a pita  to set up , and virtualbox just works
[23:22] <tillz> does anybody speaks german here?
[23:22] <epimeth> g2g591: does it need special hardware or does it work anywhere?  cuz I can't use kvm because my processor is incompatable
[23:22] <BluesKaj> !de | tillz
[23:22] <ubotu> tillz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:22] <tyson_> anyone know if there is a way to move the document tabs from the bottom of the window to the top in quanta?
[23:22] <tillz> ahh ty
[23:22] <g2g591> epimeth: it doesn't need special hardware
[23:23] <epimeth> great
[23:23] <epimeth> cheers
[23:23] <gameplayer> epimeth: any idea for my problem ?
[23:24] <epimeth> gameplayer: seems like a decoder problem.  try reinstalling your codecs
[23:24] <gameplayer> after reinstalling, may i have to reboot ?
[23:24] <gameplayer> (or just restart X ?)
[23:25] <BluesKaj> restart X
[23:25] <epimeth> gameplayer: shouldn't have to be, but thats always an option you might want to try
[23:25] <gameplayer> k
[23:25] <gameplayer> i'll try then, thank you
[23:38] <epimeth> !quicken
[23:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quicken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:39] <epimeth> quicken replacement?
[23:39] <SlimeyPete> gnucash?
[23:40] <epimeth> SlimeyPete: I prefer things that start with a "k" than with a "g" :-)  Isn't there KMoney or something?  apt-get doesn't recognize it
[23:40] <jbrcks> Hello, I just installed kubuntu 7.10 and the entries for application names in Kmenu are displayed incorrectly.  For example, Konversation is displayed as '_:Entries in Kmenu: Konversation app name, ...'.  Anyone know why this is or how to correct it?
[23:40] <SlimeyPete> dunno, tbh - I don't tend to use such things.
[23:40] <epimeth> jbrcks: not a clue, sorry... never heard of something like that
[23:42] <woddf2> Hello
[23:42] <randall> hi
[23:42] <gameplayer> epimeth: it seems that it's xine that is broken for my problem : when using mplayer, it works without any problems
[23:42] <woddf2> My empty CD drive will not stop trying to read, and when I try to use the command line (CTRL+ALT+F1/F2/F3/F5/F5/F6), I see some device error!
[23:43] <BluesKaj> jbrcks, I mentioned this before , once you use the applications with the odd names and titles they wil have the proper names after you open your next session .
[23:43] <woddf2> It keeps scrolling the error message repeatedly!
[23:43] <woddf2> device-mapper: table: [...] Device lookup failed
[23:43] <woddf2> I see [...] device-mapper: table: [...] Device lookup failed
[23:44] <woddf2> My empty CD drive will not stop trying to read, and when I try to use the command line (CTRL+ALT+F1/F2/F3/F5/F5/F6), I see some device error!
[23:45] <BluesKaj> !patience | woddf2
[23:45] <ubotu> woddf2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:48] <woddf2> Uninstalling evms fixed it!
[23:48] <woddf2> Thanks
[23:48] <woddf2> Goodbye
[23:48] <jbrcks> BluesKaj: Thanks for the advice, however, I tried that and it didnt seem to work.  Thought someone else may have another suggestion.
[23:48] <BluesKaj> have you rebooted , jbrcks ?
[23:49] <jbrcks> yes
[23:53] <epimeth> gameplayer.  all right... I couldn't help you anyway... I just know that it is probably a codec problem :-)  good luck
[23:54] <gameplayer> ok, thank you