slangaseksuperm1: so I think my time today is pretty much booked; I would suggest trying to grab an archive admin over the weekend (maybe me again)00:01
superm1slangasek, i wasn't too sure about anyone sticking around for the weekend so i was going to try to ask before end of work day.  thanks, i'll keep my eyes peeled00:01
slangasekstgraber: is there a reasonable way to locate test results for previous isos?00:04
stgraberslangasek: no, archives are still broken :(00:05
slangasekstgraber: I don't see any tests for the current xubuntu or ubuntustudio yet; if there were some for the previous iteration, we could probably run with it00:05
slangasekhmm, ok00:05
stgraberI don't think those were tested (at least ubuntustudio, not sure for Xubuntu)00:05
stgraberthe order of testing for the day was like : Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, UbuntuStudio (Kubuntu had a lot of testing yesterday)00:06
slangasekTheMuso, joejaxx, persia, _MMA_: around?  anyone able to test ubuntustudio images so we can bless the alpha?00:07
stgraberslangasek: I tried some keyword on LP and wasn't able to find a bug number for the icon thing on the livecd (or I'm just bad at searching on LP)00:07
_MMA_What image? link?00:07
* persia hunts qa.ubuntu.com00:08
slangasekthat one, yes :)00:08
* _MMA_ downloads.00:08
persia_MMA_: Which arch are you taking?00:08
Riddelldoesn't ubuntu i368 desktop need testing too?00:09
_MMA_persia: i38600:09
stgraberRiddell: doing it00:09
stgraberwell, it's actually installed, just need to reboot and test the desktop00:09
_MMA_persia: AMD64 would be hard to do this very second. Would require more time.00:10
persia_MMA_: I'm grabbing it now.00:10
_MMA_persia: AMD64?00:10
persia_MMA_: Yes.00:11
persia(needs another 4 minutes to finish the download)00:11
stgraberWho are the Xubuntu guys ? It would be good to have Xubuntu tested too00:11
_MMA_somerville32: ping ^^^00:11
stgraberslangasek: Do you want to file the device shown on desktop bug or can I ? the next question being against what ? nautilus ?00:14
slangasekstgraber: please go ahead; yes, nautilus seems a good starting point00:15
slangaseksomerville32, stgraber: I'm trying to grab the xubuntu amd64 desktop for a test, but it'll be a while on the download00:19
stgraberslangasek: bug 18822900:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188229 in nautilus "[Hardy] rofs and cdrom icons shown on LiveCD desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18822900:22
* stgraber takes Ubuntu Desktop i386 - OEM as last test for the day (01:30 here)00:30
slangasekthanks for your perseverance :)00:31
_MMA_slangasek: It will be about 60 mins or so 'till I can bless the disk as our full install is pretty big.00:45
* joejaxx goes to install00:46
slangasek_MMA_: understood00:46
selckinwhat package makes the folders Documents & stuff in $HOME?00:50
joejaxxselckin: i think that is related to xdg-user-dirs00:52
joejaxxthe packages anyway00:52
_MMA_It is.00:52
stgraberslangasek: OEM install seems broken00:53
stgraberslangasek: after reboot I have no oem-config installed00:53
slangasekstgraber: hmm, ok.  also not a blocker00:53
slangaseksomerville32: mm, booting xubuntu amd64 desktop gives me a blank desktop screen, please advise00:54
stgraberslangasek: it didn't ask for a password although I have set one and just auto-logged in00:55
* joejaxx pokes wget to move more bytes faster00:55
stgraberslangasek: what package is the best for OEM install bugs ? oem-config, ubiquity ?00:56
stgraberslangasek: as oem-config isn't installed I would bet on ubiquity but I'm not sure of how that stuff works :)00:56
slangasekstgraber: I guess assigning it to either is fine00:56
stgraberevand: ^^00:58
stgraberCan anyone do an auto-resize test ? According to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases we don't have any single result for it01:09
_MMA_stgraber: I can help tomorrow. Though, that might be too late. :(01:10
_MMA_slangasek: Im still here. @ 65% now. If this installs just push both Ubuntu Studio disks. I should know in 25 mins.01:28
slangaseksuperm1: can you advise on the fact that xubuntu desktop ISO gives me a blank screen on amd64?  I'm inclined to push the alpha out with just alternates for xubuntu, if that's alright with you01:30
slangasek(and if the alternates work better, which I'm still in the process of downloading to verify)01:31
superm1slangasek, i dont have an amd64 unfortunately01:31
superm1so i wouldn't be able to test01:31
slangasekok. has xubuntu desktop been tested on i386?01:31
superm1i was assuming somerville32 was doing the testing on it (i've been away from the project for some time)01:31
slangasekmm, ok01:32
slangasekoh, sigh01:43
slangaseksuperm1, somerville32: libxine1-ffmpeg: Depends: libavcodec1d (>= 0ecvs20070307) but it is not installable01:44
superm1slangasek, on what source package was this?01:44
_MMA_slangasek: Is tomorrow (east-cost of the states here) too late for your testing? I can easily do any i386 testing.01:44
slangaseksomerville32: sorry, we can try to roll out a xubuntu alpha after the weekend if you guys can get this fixed01:44
slangaseksuperm1: not a source package, that's the xubuntu alternate install01:45
superm1slangasek, so a broken seed then?01:45
slangasek_MMA_: yes, I want to pull the trigger on this when your 25 minute counter is up :)01:45
slangaseksuperm1: well, libxine1-ffmpeg appears to be uninstallable, perhaps it needs a rebuild or something01:45
_MMA_slangasek: On Ubuntu Studio sure. Im talking about other testing.01:46
_MMA_Other disks.01:46
_MMA_(97% cleaning up)01:46
superm1slangasek, well that's odd since it's installable locally01:47
slangasek_MMA_: oh, well, additional testing and feedback is welcome of course01:47
slangasek_MMA_: but at that point it will no longer factor into the decision to release :)01:47
_MMA_slangasek: I see.01:47
_MMA_Ill hop on -testing tomorrow.01:48
FujitsuHmm, none of pitti's syncs of about 12 hours ago seem to have worked.01:50
slangasekFujitsu: they're still held up because of the alpha01:50
FujitsuHardy doesn't look frozen...01:51
_MMA_slangasek: Push the Ubuntu Studio disks. Thanx for the work.01:53
HobbseeFujitsu: apparently everything is built.  taht doesn't look right01:53
HobbseeFujitsu: the name of one of the syncs?01:54
FujitsuBug #187737, bug #187311..01:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 187737 in ghemical "Please sync ghemical 2.95-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18773701:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 187311 in pari "Please sync pari 2.3.3-2  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18731101:54
slangasek_MMA_: pushing, cheers01:54
slangasekHobbsee, Fujitsu: the bugs have been closed, the syncs haven't been flushed yet01:55
Hobbseelooks worrying01:55
Hobbseeslangasek: where are they?01:55
FujitsuAha, I wondered if there was some extra thing that had to be done at the end.01:55
slangasekHobbsee: they're in the sync queue, they were held back on account of the alpha still being in progress. I'll flush them this evening.01:56
ryanakcacjwatson: oooh, that vim + launchpad bug thing is sharp/nice/fancy/<positive adjective> :D02:09
slangaseksuperm1: here's the problem in the build log:02:13
slangasek? Package libavcodec1d blacklisted in ship but seeded in desktop (libxine1-ffmpe02:13
superm1slangasek, her that's interesting.02:21
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zokewho do I talk to if a component of linux-ubuntu-modules needs to be synced with upstream ?02:51
zokeie a really awesome super duper patch was introduced in upstream and it would be very good if it could be let in for Hardy02:52
ScottKzoke: Sounds like you'd want #ubuntu-kernel02:52
zokethanks ScottK02:52
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TheMusoslomo__: SOrry I haven't been around. Been out most of the day.04:11
TheMusoslangasek: ^^04:11
jdongmjg59: poke. When you wake up, please look at bug 188261. Hopefully my night of frustration will save someone else some time.04:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188261 in pm-utils "[debdiff] pm-utils modunload nonfunctional" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18826104:55
warp10Good morning07:38
sorenChipzz: Why?07:53
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freepenguinnow I've finally the page of ubuntu free penguin edition: http://www.freepenguin.it/ubuntufp-download-en.html08:27
slangasekTheMuso: you're allowed... :)08:43
TheMusoslangasek: I know, but I still have a vested interest in the UbuntuStudio project.08:44
slangasekTheMuso: right, well we seem to have managed to get the testing done that was needed08:45
slangasekand it's not your fault that the testing window was so short because of the need to reroll all images :/08:45
TheMusoslangasek: heh right. I tested an image of ours yesterday, from Thursday, and it seemed to be alright, appart from a few little things that need to be worked on, which are not sstudio specific anyway.08:49
slangasekyeah, the re-roll was primarily for the global "eat my old OS" bug in partman-target08:52
slangasekanyway, I'm off for the night now08:52
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stgraberanyone with power on www.ubuntu.com ?09:21
stgraberThe OEM install functionality does not work in this alpha. Investigation of this issue is ongoing.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/18824009:21
stgraberthe link should be /bugs/18824009:21
Chipzzsoren: because it's not strictly needed for the correct functioning of your package, ie if you use bridged networking?10:07
superm1doko, bug 103929 was assigned to you a long time ago.  have you put any more thought towards it?10:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 103929 in bash "Bash prompt string looks for xterm-color, gnome terminal identifies as xterm" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10392910:13
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mjj29if I (as a DD) want to start taking a more active role in getting my packages into ubuntu (rather than just waiting for the sync from sid) how is it best to go about it?12:31
mjj29(just prompting the migration is probably sufficient)12:32
jeromegmjj29: what are your packages ?12:37
mjj29jeromeg: an assortment. javatools (source) being the current one12:38
mjj29although I don't want to push than until the revised version I just uploaded hits12:38
mjj29everything's in universe atm12:38
jeromegif it can be synced and you don't want to wait for the automatic sync12:38
jeromegyou can fill a sync request12:39
mjj29(although that one might be a candidate for main)12:39
sistpotyerm... since we're past debian import freeze, no packages gets synced automatically any longer for hardy12:39
jeromegsistpoty: yep, but I thought that by saying "waiting for a sync" he meant the automatic syncs12:40
sistpotyah, yeah12:40
sistpotymjj29: btw.: would be good to add to the sync request, that you maintain it in debian ;)12:41
mjj29sistpoty: "archive: open for development" doesn't mean what I think it does then?12:42
sistpotymjj29: well, currently hardy is still in no freeze, apart from that no automatic syncs are getting processed any longer12:43
mjj29right, but manual syncs are still ok?12:43
sistpotybtw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule12:43
pittimjj29: as sistpoty says; syncs can be done without restrictions, but upon manual requests, so that we avoid syncing large library transitions without notice, etc.12:44
mjj29so I've got until valentines day for anything I want synced?12:44
pittimjj29: you can always poke us here if you want a particular package synced, or something uploaded to Ubuntu directly12:44
pittimjj29: in theory much longer even12:44
pittimjj29: in Feb we have feature freeze12:45
pittiafter that we can still sync/upload, but only for bug fixes12:45
pittior after getting a feature freeze exception from our release manager12:45
sistpotypitti: btw.: we decided to rename motu-uvf to motu-release in last nights motu meeting12:46
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pittisistpoty: ah, makes sense12:49
pittiok, I'm off again, happy weekend everyone12:49
sistpotyhappy weekend pitti12:50
alefteriswhere can I modify the translation of the list of languages used by the language-support configuration applet?14:10
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mr_pouitcjwatson: xubuntu builds don't ship any xfce package (that's why slangasek got a blank screen after gdm) ;/14:58
Hobbseemr_pouit: ...yay!15:00
mr_pouitHobbsee: oh, I'm sure there's worse ^^'15:03
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zokebug 18606215:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 186062 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "please update linux-wlan-ng (prism2_usb) to latest upstream version (>=1847)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18606215:22
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ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore15:36
mantiena-baltixHi all15:49
mantiena-baltixHi all16:02
mantiena-baltixmaybe someone knows why there are not translation templates for brasero CD/DVD burner ? brasero is in main16:02
mantiena-baltixsee https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/brasero16:02
__mikemCan someone here help me with wubi-cdboot.exe. I am trying to use it, but when it gets to the part where I have to select a partition, the virtual disk doesn't show up as a choice to install ubuntu on16:03
__mikemwin 316:03
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realistmikem235: take note of the topic.16:05
mikem235realist, I am using IRSSI and can nolonger see the topic16:06
realistmikem235: /topic16:07
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realistBasically, #ubuntu for support16:07
pochumantiena-baltix: perhaps a rosetta admin needs to accept the template.16:08
__mikemrealist, basically, you are not an op in here, so you should follow the defacto standard of irc ediquite that if you don't know the answer to somebodys question, you keep your trap shut16:09
realist__mikem: perhaps you'd prefer I ignore you in future.16:10
evand__mikem: You might as well leave, I seriously doubt anyone is going to help you now.16:10
__mikemevand, thats fine16:10
mantiena-baltixpochu: how I can ask rosetta admins to accept ?16:11
ScottK2mantiena-baltix: I think in #launchpad, but admins there aren't very active on the weekends.16:12
pochumantiena-baltix: I guess ask them in #launchpad. But I'm not sure that's the reason the are no templates yet...16:12
pochumantiena-baltix: although as the package is using cdbs, it should have created them, as we patch cdbs to do so16:12
pochumantiena-baltix: carlos or danilos in #launchpad might know16:13
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mantiena-baltixpochu: yea, they are not active, I don't see nor Carlos nor danilos in #launchpad16:25
pochumantiena-baltix: it's Saturday... I suggest you either mail launchpad-users@ or try on Monday16:25
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sorenChipzz: When you install libvirt-bin, you automagically get a virtual network set up. It'll fail completely without bridge-utils, and not behave as configured without dnsmasq.17:41
Treenakssoren: speaking of the virt stuff.. IT ROCKS!18:16
Treenakssoren: now all I'm waiting for is beta, so I can run it on my servers as well ;)18:18
Chipzzsoren: shouldn't it be a recommends then?18:34
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IrishDavidhey, im trying to get alpha4 but the server is rather slow, are there any mirrors, I've tried looking and the torrent has no seeds19:26
slangaseksomerville32: so, daily builds are re-enabled now; if you guys get the xubuntu seed fixed for the libavcodec issue (which seems to require pulling libxine1-ffmpeg, given that libavcodec is blacklisted due to a TB resolution), I'm happy to tag one of them as an alpha-4 if you guys get one you'd like19:27
slangasekIrishDavid: we don't mirror the alphas; the torrent tracker was late to be activated but should be up now, which image are you trying to get?19:27
IrishDavidi386 altho i also intend to get amd64 eventually to test19:28
slangasekIrishDavid: so http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-4/hardy-desktop-i386.iso?19:28
slangasekok, checking19:28
IrishDavidits downloading at 200kb/s which i guess isnt really slow :) but my connection normally does 1500kb/s off the ubuntu server so i was wondering about a mirror19:29
crimsunhttp://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/alpha-4/hardy-desktop-i386.iso and http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/alpha-4/hardy-desktop-amd64.iso19:31
Joe_CoThey, now that alpha 4 is out, any chance a core dev could look at bug 15051 and bug bug 186187 ?19:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 15051 in pcre3 "grep -P is not supported" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505119:32
IrishDavidthanks crimsun19:32
IrishDavidthats more like the network utilisation i like to see :D19:33
mr_pouitslangasek: the previous builds didn't ship any xfce packages (that's why you experienced a blank screen). Is that fixed? I'll fix the seeds then.19:34
slangasekmr_pouit: oh, I have no idea if that's fixed. where did this bug manifest?19:36
mr_pouitslangasek: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/hardy/xubuntu/latest/ <<< grep xfce returns nothing19:38
mr_pouithttp://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/hardy/daily-20080201.log same here ;/19:39
slangasekoh, well I guess that could be a problem, couldn't it19:39
mr_pouitit didn't like the move to universe maybe...19:39
slangasekhrm? I see plenty of references to xfce in the daily log for the alternate; but maybe not the right ones?19:40
slangasekbut yes, I suppose something's gone wrong with the universe move and the seeding19:40
slangasekprobably in either germinate or debian-cd; cjwatson is probably the best person to look at this19:41
mr_pouitI told him this, but I guess he's off now.19:42
* slangasek nods19:43
superm1slangasek, do you think you can get a moment today to release those binaries that i mentioned yesterday possibly?19:43
mr_pouitwhere are the logs of the alternate builds?19:43
slangasekmr_pouit: that's the cd-build-log you're looking at19:44
slangaseksuperm1: yes, I believe so19:44
superm1slangasek, great thanks a bunch19:44
mr_pouitslangasek: ah ok, thankx ^^19:44
slangaseksuperm1: lintian reports that libmyth-perl is installed to the wrong path, are you aware of this?19:47
mr_pouityes, the alternate seems to be well generated...19:47
slangaseksuperm1: also, libmyth-0.21-0 would be a more appropriate package name for the given sonames19:47
superm1slangasek, there has been no errors with libmyth-perl thus far in our testing19:48
superm1let me check something.19:48
slangaseksuperm1: could you perhaps fix the latter and reupload?19:48
superm1yeah i can do that19:48
slangaseksuperm1: you won't find an error in testing, but /usr/lib/perl/5.8.8 is a reserved directory for the perl implementation itself, and libmyth-perl will stop being seen in the path if/when we upgrade to perl 5.8.919:48
superm1slangasek, yeah upstream has a few things hardcoded with that regard.  i'll need to bug them to clean that up then19:49
StevenKslangasek: 5.8.10, i think you mean19:49
superm1slangasek, i'll get a new upload in a few minutes19:49
slangasekStevenK: whichever :)19:51
slangasekStevenK: you're awake, then I see19:51
StevenKslangasek: Yeah. Have been for about two hours - slowly packing19:52
stgraberslangasek: can you update the release notes on www.ubuntu.com ?19:53
stgraberslangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/188240 instead of https://bugs.launchpad.net/18824019:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188240 in oem-config "[Hardy] OEM install from Desktop CD doesn't work" [Undecided,New]19:54
slangasekstgraber: oops, yes, passing this on19:56
sorenChipzz: How do you figure that?20:15
sorenTreenaks: I'm glad that you're glad :)20:17
jmIf upstream seems uninterested in a patch, should I try to get it into the -ubuntuX patchset, or are those patches reserved for special Ubuntu-only compatibility things?20:49
ScottK2They are not reserved for that, but if upstream is uninterested, we'd have to be convinced it was worth the long term extra maintenance burden.20:50
jmSo the patches would have to be for something important, then? I'm trying to add support for embedded cover art to Rhythmbox/GStreamer, but patches in bugzilla have gone unreviewed and mails to the lists unanswered.20:52
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ScottK2It depends.  For a package that already has an Ubuntu diff, the barrier is lower.21:01
* ScottK2 is a Kubuntu person, so I've really no opinion on gstreamer21:02
pochuOur gstreamer packages are almost in sync with Debian21:04
pochuWe have a small diff in debian/rules in all of them, which will be sorted out soon using lsb_release so we can sync them.21:05
pochujm: will the patches land in gstreamer and rhythmbox, or only rhythmbox?21:05
ScottK2jm: Which means Debian is probably your best entry point.21:06
jmGstreamer patches are for creating the "image" tag for FLAC and Ogg/Vorbis files21:06
jmRhythmbox patch is for detecting "image" tag, and storing it as metadata.21:06
pochujm: if they got unanswered upstream, perhpaps it's a matter of resources instead of they don't wanting the patches.21:06
pochujm: have you tried #gstreamer and #rhythmbox on GimpNet?21:07
pochuPerhaps you find someone to review the patches there21:07
jmYes, am in them now, but I've asked for devs to take a look and there's been no response.21:07
jmBest response was a dev assigning the Ogg/Vorbis patch, but since the latest -base was just released a few days ago I'm guessing it wouldn't be in a stable release in time for Hardy.21:08
pochuUnless it's committed to the 0.10.17 branch, I don't think so21:09
jmShould I put my patches up on Launchpad with a debdiff? I don't mind if they get rejected, as long as somebody actually sees them.21:10
pochuFor the gstreamer one, ask slomo when he's around.21:11
pochuRhythmbox one, wait to see if the gstreamer one is accepted, I'd say ;)21:11
jmOK, I'll try to go poke the RB devs some more, then.21:11
pochuGood luck21:11
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Riddelljm: if something makes ubuntu better feel free to add an ubuntuX patch, just make sure to pass it upstream as well22:40
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jdongerr... disregard that. cleaning keyboard22:56
sistpotyjdong: you forgot some keys :P22:56
jdongsistpoty: meh only the home row was really bothering me ;-)22:56
jdongit's only while writing C code that you realize the semicolon has some stuff underneath it.22:57
mjg59jdong: Please reping or email me - I'm travelling for the next 20 hours or so23:36
jdongmjg59: ok that's fine, you've got bugmail on pm-utils when you get back then :)23:36
mjg59jdong: Ok, thanks - which module did you need to deal with?23:59

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