sabotage | kyleN_: after reading through the code for gtk-theme-switch, it seems to only update gtk rc settings and not in a system wide way, but only by users ~/.gtk-2.0/gtkrc file | 00:58 |
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kyleN_ | sabotage: does it do it system wide for the current user? | 00:59 |
sabotage | so its assuming a desktop env with multiple users, not quite what we're trying to address, but could be adapted to our needs | 00:59 |
sabotage | yes/no... | 00:59 |
kyleN_ | sabotage: not sure the multiple users assumption is relevant for a MID though | 00:59 |
sabotage | settings in users home dir take precedence over system wide, so it *looks* system wide | 01:00 |
sabotage | agreed | 01:00 |
sabotage | also, it's missing some key subsystem settings | 01:00 |
kyleN_ | looking sys wide may be good enough | 01:01 |
kyleN_ | what's missing? | 01:01 |
sabotage | like matchbox, icons, gconf settings and backgrounds | 01:01 |
kyleN_ | matchbox and backgrounds strike me as critical | 01:01 |
sabotage | not if we don't have a "user" (we do now, but not sure if that will stay the case) | 01:01 |
sabotage | background is actually quite /interesting/ | 01:02 |
sabotage | ;) | 01:02 |
sabotage | setting the X background does nothing for us | 01:02 |
kyleN_ | why, on one ever sees that? | 01:02 |
sabotage | the background is HomeArea dependant | 01:02 |
sabotage | so if the UI is flash based, then we need to get the flash plugin to change its bg image | 01:03 |
sabotage | if it's HTML/Xul based, then we need to effect the DOM settings via CSS or some Javascript interface | 01:03 |
kyleN_ | well, the home plugin flash shows sometimes, then it reverts to the normal marquee + app when an app launches | 01:03 |
sabotage | and if we use Clutter, well, I've no idea yet how that gets changed yet ;) | 01:04 |
kyleN_ | right, those are good points. our specific need is flash home ui, user changes it, then the rest of the UI gets the same fonts/colors/gtk theme | 01:04 |
sabotage | but when the app goes away, then the flash ui shows again and I assume you want the bg changes to be persistant, right? | 01:05 |
kyleN_ | the flash ui is full screen | 01:05 |
kyleN_ | so there is no bg | 01:05 |
sabotage | most of the rest is very doable...just not 100% sure how we'll tackle the background | 01:05 |
kyleN_ | where's the background if the flash ui is full screen? | 01:06 |
StevenK | Behind the flash ui, I'm guessing | 01:06 |
sabotage | that's a misnomer...the HTML ui and the Clutter ui are also "fjull screen", but all of them have "background" like properties that users will want to alter | 01:06 |
kyleN_ | right - invisible, right? | 01:06 |
sabotage | no, embedded in the flash SWF | 01:07 |
kyleN_ | ah, our short term need does not involve the user changing it | 01:07 |
kyleN_ | say, two flash movies, with two equivalent themes. not user configurables | 01:07 |
sabotage | does your idea of changing the theme involve sending a message to the flash ui to change its colors. etc...? | 01:07 |
kyleN_ | actually, there are multiple flash movies, i believe | 01:07 |
kyleN_ | the user can switch between them | 01:08 |
kyleN_ | they have a different look and feel | 01:08 |
kyleN_ | when the user switches, we want all the rest to switch too | 01:08 |
sabotage | ok for now I suppose, but most users will expect to be able to set an image in their photo viewer/library to the screen background | 01:08 |
kyleN_ | that is, they switch, then launch an app, flash goes away | 01:08 |
sabotage | right? | 01:08 |
kyleN_ | marquee and app are themes to match the flash move | 01:08 |
kyleN_ | yes, that will be nice but it is not a deliverable for the custom team right now | 01:09 |
kyleN_ | the other is | 01:09 |
sabotage | ah, you're switching the HomeArea applet then...that's a bit different, not really "theme" related | 01:09 |
kyleN_ | we switch, then the REST switches accordingly | 01:09 |
kyleN_ | automatically | 01:09 |
kyleN_ | where the REST is colors fonts and gtk theme | 01:09 |
sabotage | ok | 01:09 |
kyleN_ | you think that is likely to be doable without too much mountain climbing? | 01:10 |
sabotage | so then the "REST" you are refering to should be doable | 01:10 |
kyleN_ | excellent! | 01:10 |
sabotage | the current tool is a bit insufficient but adaptable. | 01:10 |
kyleN_ | i figure when the flash switches, it uses out javasscript api to make the appropriate calls, whatever they turn out to be | 01:10 |
sabotage | I've a running list of thing it needs to be adapted to do | 01:11 |
kyleN_ | this will be a big help | 01:11 |
sabotage | I'm not promising to *DO | 01:11 |
sabotage | * the changes ;) | 01:12 |
sabotage | though I'll probably take a stab at it as it relates to the rest of the theme work I am doing | 01:12 |
kyleN_ | right. whatever you can do, even if it is just invistigate and report, that will be a help | 01:12 |
sabotage | it's just not on our POR to provide a theme switcher | 01:12 |
sabotage | yep | 01:12 |
kyleN_ | cool. I'd like to stay in touch on this | 01:13 |
kyleN_ | but for now, our week in Hillsboro is just about OVER! | 01:13 |
sabotage | I'll send my notes to the mail list once I get back on the Intel network | 01:13 |
kyleN_ | back to soggy massachusetts | 01:13 |
kyleN_ | cool | 01:13 |
sabotage | soggy or snowy? | 01:13 |
kyleN_ | soggy, i hear. | 01:13 |
kyleN_ | was snowy though. we had three snowfalls of 10-12 inches each earlier | 01:14 |
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