[00:58] kyleN_: after reading through the code for gtk-theme-switch, it seems to only update gtk rc settings and not in a system wide way, but only by users ~/.gtk-2.0/gtkrc file [00:59] sabotage: does it do it system wide for the current user? [00:59] so its assuming a desktop env with multiple users, not quite what we're trying to address, but could be adapted to our needs [00:59] yes/no... [00:59] sabotage: not sure the multiple users assumption is relevant for a MID though [01:00] settings in users home dir take precedence over system wide, so it *looks* system wide [01:00] agreed [01:00] also, it's missing some key subsystem settings [01:01] looking sys wide may be good enough [01:01] what's missing? [01:01] like matchbox, icons, gconf settings and backgrounds [01:01] matchbox and backgrounds strike me as critical [01:01] not if we don't have a "user" (we do now, but not sure if that will stay the case) [01:02] background is actually quite /interesting/ [01:02] ;) [01:02] setting the X background does nothing for us [01:02] why, on one ever sees that? [01:02] the background is HomeArea dependant [01:03] so if the UI is flash based, then we need to get the flash plugin to change its bg image [01:03] if it's HTML/Xul based, then we need to effect the DOM settings via CSS or some Javascript interface [01:03] well, the home plugin flash shows sometimes, then it reverts to the normal marquee + app when an app launches [01:04] and if we use Clutter, well, I've no idea yet how that gets changed yet ;) [01:04] right, those are good points. our specific need is flash home ui, user changes it, then the rest of the UI gets the same fonts/colors/gtk theme [01:05] but when the app goes away, then the flash ui shows again and I assume you want the bg changes to be persistant, right? [01:05] the flash ui is full screen [01:05] so there is no bg [01:05] most of the rest is very doable...just not 100% sure how we'll tackle the background [01:06] where's the background if the flash ui is full screen? [01:06] Behind the flash ui, I'm guessing [01:06] that's a misnomer...the HTML ui and the Clutter ui are also "fjull screen", but all of them have "background" like properties that users will want to alter [01:06] right - invisible, right? [01:07] no, embedded in the flash SWF [01:07] ah, our short term need does not involve the user changing it [01:07] say, two flash movies, with two equivalent themes. not user configurables [01:07] does your idea of changing the theme involve sending a message to the flash ui to change its colors. etc...? [01:07] actually, there are multiple flash movies, i believe [01:08] the user can switch between them [01:08] they have a different look and feel [01:08] when the user switches, we want all the rest to switch too [01:08] ok for now I suppose, but most users will expect to be able to set an image in their photo viewer/library to the screen background [01:08] that is, they switch, then launch an app, flash goes away [01:08] right? [01:08] marquee and app are themes to match the flash move [01:09] yes, that will be nice but it is not a deliverable for the custom team right now [01:09] the other is [01:09] ah, you're switching the HomeArea applet then...that's a bit different, not really "theme" related [01:09] we switch, then the REST switches accordingly [01:09] automatically [01:09] where the REST is colors fonts and gtk theme [01:09] ok [01:10] you think that is likely to be doable without too much mountain climbing? [01:10] so then the "REST" you are refering to should be doable [01:10] excellent! [01:10] the current tool is a bit insufficient but adaptable. [01:10] i figure when the flash switches, it uses out javasscript api to make the appropriate calls, whatever they turn out to be [01:11] I've a running list of thing it needs to be adapted to do [01:11] this will be a big help [01:11] I'm not promising to *DO [01:12] * the changes ;) [01:12] though I'll probably take a stab at it as it relates to the rest of the theme work I am doing [01:12] right. whatever you can do, even if it is just invistigate and report, that will be a help [01:12] it's just not on our POR to provide a theme switcher [01:12] yep [01:13] cool. I'd like to stay in touch on this [01:13] but for now, our week in Hillsboro is just about OVER! [01:13] I'll send my notes to the mail list once I get back on the Intel network [01:13] back to soggy massachusetts [01:13] cool [01:13] soggy or snowy? [01:13] soggy, i hear. [01:14] was snowy though. we had three snowfalls of 10-12 inches each earlier === asac_ is now known as asac [03:13] ;d [03:13] ;dls [03:17] sorry for the mis-input, just tried a new BT keyboard === robr_ is now known as robr [23:09] hi.. i want to ged rid of windows mobile 2003 se on my t-mobile pda... will ubuntu mobile be available for this device? [23:10] can anyone help me? [23:23] Evening gent's. Pretty sure I know the answer, and pretty sure it's no - but has ubuntu mobile made it onto any HTC Kaisers yet?