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Stowawayis there a filemanger in mythbuntu?00:10
superm1Thunar00:11
Stowawaycheers00:11
stowaway2hello. im still trying to get my divco dvb tuner to work.. I THINK  its firmware/drivers are install properly, coz /dev/dvb is populated by adapter0 and also i get this :00:25
stowaway2michael@mediacentre:/dev/dvb$ dmesg | grep dvb00:25
stowaway2[   31.481237] cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded00:25
stowaway2[   31.481241] cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared00:25
stowaway2but it cant bind in kaffine player. and cant open card in myth tv :(00:26
superm1look at more of dmesg00:42
superm1can you pastebin the whole thing00:42
superm1it will talk about the firmware in there00:42
Davieysuperm1: i told stowaway about Thunar hours ago in #mythtv-users00:44
Daviey:S00:44
superm1Daviey, you hide in that bullpit?00:44
Daviey:O00:45
Davieysuperm1: where else on freenode can you go to bully noobs.00:45
superm1#ubuntu?00:45
Davieyheh00:45
foxbuntu#noobs?00:46
DavieyAnd on that note, i should go to bed.  Catch you tommorrow chaps00:46
superm1night00:48
skippyI'm having a devil of a time getting my Mac Mini remote to work with Mythbuntu.00:49
superm1you need to see the right /dev/input/eventX device00:50
superm1in lircd.conf00:50
superm1that's not automatic unfortunatley00:50
superm1unfortunately even00:50
skippyit's /dev/input/event1 currently.   `irw` never shows anything; but irrecord was able to create a conf file.00:53
skippyIf I try to map a key using the Myth key editor, it always tells me "unknown key"00:54
superm1there is a conf out there already01:00
superm1in /usr/share/lirc01:00
superm1for apple remotes01:00
superm1try using that one01:00
superm1copy it your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf01:01
superm1restart lirc01:01
superm1and try irw01:01
skippyno joy.  :(01:01
superm1and you are using the right driver?01:02
Cygnetevening everyone, I've got the cable problem sorted01:02
skippysuperm1, macmini01:03
skippyDRIVER="macmini"01:03
skippyDEVICE="/dev/input/event1"01:03
superm1yeah that sounds right01:03
Cygnetnow I've got another problem where TV listings keep getting the channels mixed up (e.g. it shows a Mythbusters marathon on channel 48 which is the Discovery Channel in Chicago, but here it's 55)01:04
skippysuperm1, i can `sudo cat /dev/input/event1` and see stuff when I press the remote buttons.01:04
skippybut lircd doesn't seem to be seeing them.01:04
superm1Cygnet, sounds like you grabbed the wrong channel line up01:04
superm1in some areas of chicagoland there are like 4 or 5 lineups available to each area01:05
CygnetI moved from Chicagoland to the Twin Cities01:05
superm1eg where i came from, i got lake zurich, arlington heights, highland park, and vernon hills line ups01:05
Cygnetit's still showing Chicago stuff in the lineups though01:05
superm1go and delete all the channels and refetch the channel listing01:05
superm1or even better delete the video source01:05
superm1and create a new one01:06
CygnetI switched the lineup in schedulesdirect and in the settings to twin cities and refetched all the channels01:06
Cygnetwill making a new video source make it start from scratch on the channel lineups?01:06
CygnetI may try that01:06
superm1yeah just delete all the channels first01:06
superm1and that should work out right01:06
Cygnetall right01:06
superm1what was with the static earlier?01:07
Cygnetit was a problem with our cable subscription01:07
Cygnetwe had full basic cable before (by accident, actually) and when we moved we started getting only the 20 or so channels that we were paying for :p01:08
superm1ah01:08
Cygnethooray, I've got the new video source set up and refetched the channels and now all the shows are on the right channels01:31
squish102anyone use a dlink dsm-320 here as a frontend?01:46
darkfrogHey guys, I'm having really painful issues with lirc. :o  If I do "ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc" and then run it as root lircd works, but even after that if I try to run as a normal user I get: lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lircd.pid, can someone help me figure out why?02:06
darkfrogif I try to run the "lirc" service it starts, but then crashes when I run irw and outputs to the syslog: Feb  1 20:07:23 myth lircd-0.8.2[6404]: couldn't find a compatible USB device02:08
darkfroganyone actually away here? ;)02:09
superm1dont do that02:23
superm1with the symlinks02:23
superm1you want things to startup via the init script02:23
darkfrogsuperm1, but it refuses to...02:26
darkfrogsuperm1, not sure what else I can do02:26
superm1well then you have something configured wrong somewhere02:26
superm1did you mis-list your modules in hardware.conf?02:27
darkfrogsuperm1, could be...02:28
superm1well pastebin your hardware.conf02:28
darkfrogsuperm1, I have an ATI Remote Wonder II02:28
superm1yeah seems some people have had trouble with those in gutsy02:28
darkfrogsuperm1, should I be running with userspace or kernel driver?02:28
superm1that's up to you02:28
superm1people have mixed luck02:29
darkfrogsuperm1, what reasons should I choose one over another?02:29
superm1different responsiveness i'd guess02:29
superm1i dont have one of these remotes myself02:29
superm1so i haven't compared02:29
darkfroghttp://pastebin.com/m5dc26b2902:30
superm1okay so when you are using the userspace driver, you shouldnt be having any /dev/lirc002:31
superm1so the fact that you are forcing LIRCD_ARGS02:32
superm1is throwing it02:32
superm1those are automatically populated by the init script when necessary02:32
darkfrogso comment out the DEVICE line?02:32
darkfrogor comment out LIRCD_ARGS?02:33
superm1comment out LIRCD_ARGS02:33
superm1and also you should have no lirc modules loaded right now02:34
superm1make sure that none are02:34
superm1if you have a /dev/lirc0, something is loaded02:34
darkfrogThere is a /dev/lirc0 and a /dev/lircd02:34
superm1well unload any lirc_* modules then02:35
darkfroghow?02:35
superm1lsmod | grep lirc02:35
superm1to find out which are loaded02:35
superm1and then sudo rmmod MODULE02:35
superm1to unload one02:35
darkfrogunloaded lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev...assuming I shouldn't unload usbcore. :o02:36
darkfrogwhat now?02:37
superm1try to restart the init script02:38
superm1sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart02:38
darkfrogdone02:38
darkfrogstopped lircmd lircd, started lircd02:39
superm1so see if its still running02:40
superm1and then try irw02:40
darkfrogps -e | grep lirc found lircd02:41
darkfrogI invoke irw and it immediately returns02:41
darkfrogsyslog says: Feb  1 20:41:45 myth lircd-0.8.2[6448]: couldn't find a compatible USB device02:42
superm1check if you have any other ati modules loaded02:42
superm1if not, switch to the kernel module driver in mcc02:42
darkfrogati_remote2 is loaded02:42
superm1take that out02:43
darkfrogdone02:43
superm1restart lirc and try again02:43
darkfrogk02:43
darkfrogsame02:44
superm1okay so switch to the kernel driver and try it with that02:44
superm1mcc will handle the modifications to your hardare.conf for you02:44
darkfroghow do I do that?  I had used the Mythbuntu Control Center previously02:44
darkfroggotcha02:44
superm1yeah that's what mcc stands for02:44
darkfrogbrb02:44
darkfrognow what?02:46
superm1well once you do that, check what modules are loaded again02:46
superm1and you should have the lirc_ ones02:46
superm1which is okay02:46
superm1so try irw02:46
darkfrogI rebooted...is that alright?02:46
superm1well not necessarily02:47
superm1check and see if that atiremote2 one came back02:47
superm1if it did that will need to be blacklisted (and where the trouble from the start likely was)02:47
darkfrogI have ati_remote2, lirc_atiusb, and lirc_dev02:47
superm1unload them all02:47
superm1and then restart lirc with the init script02:48
superm1lirc_atiusb should get loaded again02:48
darkfrogit says lirc_atiusb is in use02:48
darkfrogokay, now lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev came back up02:49
darkfrogirw?02:50
darkfrogI run irw but no information is feeding to the screen from my remote02:51
superm1ywah02:51
superm1but irw didn't die02:51
darkfrogno02:52
superm1okay well that's a good sign02:52
superm1dmesg look nice too now?02:52
darkfrogoriginally though if I were to create a symbolic link to /dev/lirc and run lircd as root irw would work and actually output stuff...02:52
superm1okay, lets see the new hardware.conf then02:53
superm1see if anything else stands out in it02:53
darkfroghttp://pastebin.com/m116f204102:53
superm1okay that looks correct02:54
superm1lircd should be running as root right now02:54
superm1if you check the process listing02:54
superm1can you see the command that it was launched with right now?02:54
darkfroghow do I get the extra info in ps?02:54
superm1i usually do something like02:55
superm1ps aux | grep lirc02:55
darkfrogI get back: root      6374  0.0  0.0  15928   696 ?        Ss   20:49   0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc002:55
superm1yeah so running as root02:55
superm1and pointing to the device file /dev/lirc002:55
darkfrogthere is a /dev/lirc0 now02:56
superm1okay perhaps can you sudo cat /dev/lirc002:56
superm1and press some buttons02:56
superm1and see if you get output in the terminal?02:56
darkfrogcat: /dev/lirc0: Invalid argument02:56
superm1what's dmesg say about anything lirc'y02:57
darkfroghttp://pastebin.com/m3f1cc2b202:57
superm1well that all looks right02:57
superm1try to irrecord02:58
darkfrogirrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc02:58
darkfrogirrecord: default_init(): No such file or directory02:58
darkfrogirrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)02:58
darkfrogoops...sorry02:58
superm1irrecord -d /dev/lirc002:58
superm1you'll need to do02:58
superm1the default device is not /dev/lirc002:58
darkfrogthat seems to have worked...03:00
darkfrogI had to run irrecord as root though03:00
superm1okay well this being the case, bad lircd.conf possibly?03:01
darkfrogI have a backup from a working one I had before.03:02
darkfrogyou were right03:03
darkfrogI swapped out and it works now03:03
superm1okay so blacklist that atiremote2 module03:03
superm1file a bug against lirc03:03
superm1saying that module needs to be blacklisted03:04
superm1lirc in ubuntu that is03:04
superm1make sure you indicate that you are using gutsy03:04
superm1also post your two lircd.conf's03:04
superm1the functional one and non functional one03:04
superm1so those can get sorted out too03:04
darkfrogsuperm1, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - add "blacklist ati_remote2"?03:04
superm1that sounds right, but i don't remember offhand03:05
darkfrogsuperm1, I created the lircd.conf file that worked...I used irrecord03:05
darkfroggood thing I kept it. :)03:05
superm1that's interesting that you had to though03:05
darkfrogindeed03:05
superm1the lircd.conf that is included came from upstream03:06
superm1so it should have been okay03:06
darkfrogso everything should work when I reboot?03:06
superm1well you tell me :)03:06
darkfrogtrying now. :)03:06
darkfrogIn comparison to Mythdora, I love Mythbuntu, but there's still a LONG way it has to go.03:07
superm1darkfrog, well please file bugs with anything you catch03:08
superm1too many people go on the forums, say something doesn't work, and it gets lost :)03:08
darkfrogaha!03:08
darkfrogit works. :)03:08
superm1wonderful03:08
superm1if you can, at some point before hardy gets released, around beta/rc time - can you test again with hardy?03:09
superm1its good to have people with test hardware to verify these sorts of things03:09
darkfrogThanks so much...you saved me a lot of headache and some frustrating glances from my wife. :-p03:10
darkfrogTest with Mythbuntu hardy?03:10
superm1yes03:11
superm1in about a month or two03:11
superm1you should be able to check just off the live disk then03:11
superm1without needing to sacrafice your install03:11
darkfrogyeah, I can do that03:11
superm1sacrafice even03:11
superm1sacrifice03:11
darkfroghehe03:11
darkfrogWell, I'm a programmer, so if you ever need anything programming-wise just let me know...I'd love to be able to repay the debt I owe you. ;)03:12
superm1darkfrog, what's your language of choice?03:12
darkfrogsuperm1, Java03:13
darkfrogsuperm1, I wrote this: http://jseamless.org03:13
darkfrogsuperm1, but I know MANY languages03:13
superm1neat03:13
superm1darkfrog, well we can definitely use help.  the best thing will be to sit down at some point and look at our open blueprints03:14
superm1and see what appeals to you to write03:14
superm1or if you have any of your own ideas, we're very open03:14
darkfrogI do like the way the installation and MCC works, but the fact that it is designed as a normal application window is somewhat strange I think.03:15
superm1well eventually there will be an effort to convert it to libmythui03:16
superm1to have it part of mythfrontend03:16
darkfrogMythTV is designed with the idea in mind that it's likely running on a tv and certain assertions are made about how text should be displayed...normal applications don't make those assertions03:16
superm1but that's some time out03:16
superm1do agree with you there though03:16
darkfrogAlso, adding functionality to a web-based mcc would be useful as well03:16
superm1its just that python code is like talking english.  you can write an entire fully functional app in a few hours03:16
superm1whereas writing it in libmythui, that would be a bit more involved - since having to learn the API that libmythui is using, and a lot of C callbacks03:17
superm1for things that are already handled with nice libraries in python03:17
darkfrogyeah, but the problem with Python is that it has similarities to Perl (granted not as bad), but it's something of a "write-only" language. ;)03:17
darkfrogmaintainability is difficult with complex python projects03:18
superm1yeah i've noticed that about mcc03:18
superm1and started to abstract it some more03:18
superm1so as to not break it by so easily03:18
darkfrogthe biggest complaint I've had with Mythbuntu is the remote functionality...everything else has been moderately smooth for me.03:19
darkfrogExcept I had to run the install through safe-mode03:19
superm1yeah that's a problem for some people, but not anything that we can directly handle here03:19
superm1more of an upstream xorg issue there03:20
superm1the remote stuff has changed significantly already for hardy03:20
superm1its possible i already resolved your issue, but i have done so much this cycle, i forget a lot of the code i've written :)03:20
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darkfrogI noticed...I installed a few months ago and then rebuilt a CD for AMD64 and it was different, then I updated as soon as I installed and it was again different. :o03:20
darkfrogthat was another thing03:21
superm1here's what the lirc pages are looking like in hardy: http://mythbuntu.org/image/tid/803:21
darkfrogwhen I first installed it let me choose "Other" (or something similar), but after updating that option was gone.03:21
superm1you're on gutsy still right?03:21
darkfrogThat was an awesome feature...it let me explicitly choose each aspect03:21
darkfrog7.10, yeah03:21
superm1okay good03:21
superm1yeah that other is back in hardy03:22
superm1as "Custom"03:22
superm1there was a lot of bugs with letting people customize stuff like that too much in ubiquity03:22
superm1which is why it was disabled for mcc03:22
darkfrogWhat would be great is a "Remote Wizard" that would take you through the process of either detecting or at least letting you try different remote drivers without having to do it manually.03:22
superm1well that, and a way to easily customize buttons via a gui03:22
superm1both specs, but more involved than initially expected :)03:23
darkfrogthe wizard functionality would be involved, but I can't imagine it would be that complex03:23
superm1well actually again with hardy changes to lirc, it is a lot more feasible03:24
darkfrogit would be a life saver for people like me that were inches away from blowing it away and installing Fedora 8. :o03:24
superm1:)03:24
darkfrogseriously if you hadn't chimed in tonight I would probably be installing Fedora 8 right now03:24
superm1well how is the responsiveness with the kernel mode driver?03:25
superm1maybe just wiping the userspace one is an idea03:25
superm1to avoid the confusion03:25
darkfrogsince I created my own lircd.conf the buttons don't work on MythTV, I'm going to write them by hand03:25
darkfrogso I can't really test yet03:25
superm1well -03:26
darkfrogI just wish I could use the built-in kernel module for my remote.03:26
superm1if you selected your button names to previously used names in the lircd.conf's03:26
darkfrogMost buttons work and I can even use it as a mouse...it just sucks that it doesn't capture several of the buttons.03:26
superm1the generate dynamic button mappings option03:26
darkfrogI didn't. :)03:26
superm1in mcc will generate lircrc's03:26
superm1oh nvm then :)03:26
darkfrogI planned to create a new one by handle anyway...too many buttons and I have very specific intentions for each one. :o03:27
darkfroghandle = hand03:27
darkfroganyway...thanks again for your help.03:28
darkfrogI'm going to head to bed and probably work on writing out the control mappings in the morning. :)03:28
superm1okay great03:28
superm1night03:28
ryansmithI tried using the setup dialog for Mythbuntu and now Gnome's login manager won't boot. Does anyone know what's going on?05:55
ryansmithfireb0x06:00
fireb0xyiz006:00
fireb0xmy gdm is t3h died06:01
famiconits cuz u is gay06:03
fireb0x:(06:04
famiconit h8s u06:04
fireb0xoh noez. i am epic fail06:05
timrithello. i have installed mythbuntu and i can get everything working except i cannot figure out how to make the mythbackend start automatically. Can anyone please help.06:43
timritIf I manually start mythbackend the system works fine. I currently have it running in a screen session.06:43
Newy11hi guys was just woundering if anyone could help me, i installed mythbuntu but cant seem to detect my VisionPlus DVB-T card. i tried mythdora before and it found it automaticly but i would much rather use mythbuntu. any thoughts?07:30
Newyboyhey all07:57
fatejudgerI just installed a PVR-350 and after configuring the backend, I can't seem to watch tv on the frontend09:06
fatejudgerit just gives me a black screen, then times out09:07
fatejudgerat which point it goes back to the main menu09:07
fatejudgerany suggestions?09:07
superm1Newy11, take a look and see if its just missing firmware09:15
superm1dmesg will tell you a lot09:15
Newy11ok cheers for the reply ;) sorry im total noob when it comes to linux do i just type dmesg in a terminal?09:17
superm1Newy11, yeah09:17
Newy11ok done that but not sure what im looking for. sorry for being noob :P09:19
superm1if you can pastebin the contents of it09:22
superm1i can help you look through it09:22
superm1!pastebin09:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:22
Newy11newy11@mythtv-server:/$ dmesg09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.22-14-generic (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.22-14.46-generic)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000000e8000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003fff0000 (usable)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000003fff0000 - 000000003fff8000 (ACPI data)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000003fff8000 - 0000000040000000 (ACPI NVS)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000ffee0000 - 00000000fff00000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] 127MB HIGHMEM available.09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] 896MB LOWMEM available.09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] found SMP MP-table at 000fbc7009:27
Newy11[    0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 262128) 0 entries of 256 used09:27
Newy11[    0.000000] Zone PFN ranges:09:27
Newy11[    0.000000]   DMA             0 ->     409609:27
Newy11[    0.000000]   Normal       4096 ->   22937609:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   HighMem    229376 ->   26212809:28
Newy11[    0.000000] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges09:28
Newy11[    0.000000]     0:        0 ->   26212809:28
Newy11[    0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 26212809:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap09:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   DMA zone: 0 pages reserved09:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:009:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   Normal zone: 1760 pages used for memmap09:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   Normal zone: 223520 pages, LIFO batch:3109:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 255 pages used for memmap09:28
Newy11[    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 32497 pages, LIFO batch:709:28
Newy11[    0.000000] DMI 2.3 present.09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: RSDP signature @ 0xC00FAA60 checksum 009:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: RSDP 000FAA60, 0014 (r0 AMI   )09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: RSDT 3FFF0000, 002C (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX     1000 MSFT  100000B)09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: FACP 3FFF0030, 0081 (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX       11 MSFT  100000B)09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: DSDT 3FFF0120, 3300 (r1    SiS      746      100 MSFT  100000D)09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: FACS 3FFF8000, 004009:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: APIC 3FFF00C0, 005A (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX     1000 MSFT  100000B)09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x80809:28
superm1pastebin dude09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0000009:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] Processor #0 6:8 APIC version 1609:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1])09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])09:28
Newy11[    0.000000] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-2309:28
superm1can you pastebin that instead of flooding?09:29
Newy11yeah sorry i didnt mean to paste it in there :(09:30
Newy11http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54436/09:33
Newy11anything u can see that maybe making it not show up in the mythTV setup?09:39
superm1does this card do both analog and digital?09:39
superm1it looks like the digital frontend for it is fully recognized and setup09:40
Newy11im not 100% sure if it does both09:44
Newy11im just googleing atm to see if it does09:44
superm1well minimally it looks like it does digital09:44
superm1and that its working as expected09:44
superm1what happens when you configure it as a dvb device in mythtv-setup?09:44
Newy11says could not open09:46
superm1did you try after you rebooted?09:48
superm1after install that is?09:48
superm1i've heard of some chaps that can't do some tuner stuff until after the reboot09:48
Newy11yeah i did a install but i rebooted it a min ago and it actually has come up now ;) cheers heaps for your help09:49
superm1great :)09:49
Newy11now i just have to get my head around installing Shepherd as im a aussie user09:50
superm1well if you get a good understanding of it and want to get some automation wrapped around it, we're open to patches :)09:50
Newy11great sounds awesome, thanks heaps again ;)09:52
superm1best of luck09:53
Newy11hey all, i was just trying to install Shepherd as i am a AUS user and i was trying to install perl dependencies using the cpan command and it wants me to setup cpan first. so i clicked yes setup, now its asking where is your unzip program? [path]10:34
Newy11any ideas?10:35
fstxxI have one tv card in an ubuntu box, running mythtv. Now I want to add another. How do I ensure that the old card still get /dev/video0, and the new new takes /dev/video113:00
MilhousePunkRockfstxx: If it starts mixing up, use a udev rule to fix the names...13:00
MilhousePunkRockfstxx: As described here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Device_Filenames_and_udev13:01
MilhousePunkRockIt actually pretty simple13:01
fstxxThanks, I'll look at that page13:02
fstxxMilhousepunkrock: That page seems to describe something else. Do you know is there is a way to13:54
fstxxkeep the /dev/video0 to point to the old card.13:55
adaptrmake a module alias and couple it to that dev node13:55
fstxxadapter: did you talk to me? I don't know what a modules alias is, how I make one, or how to couple it to a dev node.13:59
adaptrI presume you have two video cards, and need somehow to assign specific device nodes to them ?14:14
adaptrmy first question would be why14:14
fstxxadaptr: sorry, i was away? Are you still there?14:26
fstxxadaptr: I have one card in the box now, and i want to add another without fucking up what works now.14:27
adaptrhow would you fuck it up ? have you tried it ?14:28
adaptrif you mean losing your outputs, yes, that may happen - remove it from the stack and hang a monitor and keyboard14:28
adaptryou will have to reconfigure certain things regardless14:28
adaptras with all hardware changes14:29
fstxxadaptr: no, I have no tried yet. I did have problems with sound when I had a pci sound card in the box in addition to the mootherboard sound devices.14:30
fstxxadaptr: conguring mythtv was a pain, so I don't want to disturb that configuration.14:33
adaptrdid you install mythbuntu ?14:34
adaptrit's about as painless as it gets14:34
adaptrand is fully upgradable to the *buntu of your choice afterwards14:34
fstxxadaptr: It was not pianless for me. But now it does work. I do not want to start over. But you suggested that there might be way. You said something about mdule alias>14:35
adaptrno, if you want to add a TV card, you must add the TV card14:36
adaptrreboot14:36
adaptrthen see what happens14:36
fstxxadaptr: now: bttv card -> /dev/video0 what I want: bttv card -> /dev/video0, pvr-1110 -> /dev/video1.14:37
adaptrfstxx: why ? the location of the card is irrelevant to its functionality14:37
fstxxadaptr: wen I had two sound cards, the devices switched aournd on each boot. Will they vidoe devices do that?14:38
fstxxadapter: because myth is configured to use /dev/video0, and I want to keep that working. I don't want14:38
fstxxto remove the card in mythtv-setup.14:39
adaptrfstxx: that is dependent on the way in which the module loader is configured, and for sound devices - and probably also video devices - you can "solve" this by defining module aliases14:39
adaptrfstxx: you are making a LOT of assumptions about something that you have not yet tried14:39
adaptrthe first step, regardless of what you think or what you want, is to ADD THE HARDWARE14:39
adaptrnothing makes sense until you do that14:39
fstxxadaptr: If I do that, and /dev/video0 no longer is the bttv card, my daughter can't watch tv until I have figured out how to fix it. I prefer to figure out that before I do that14:42
fstxxadaptr: pleeas be honest now. Do you know how do that with module aliases?14:43
adaptrfstxx: so I'm dishonest now ?14:48
adaptrfucking usless statement that seriously has no place here14:48
adaptrin order to fix any ensuing problems, you will first have to EXPERIENCE them14:49
peppequalcuno mi può aiutare ad installare lirc14:49
adaptrpeppe: EnNglish, please14:49
adaptrEngrish, even14:49
[nrx]hi folks! :)14:49
peppecan you help me to install lirc14:50
[nrx]trying to get a remote working?14:50
adaptrpeppe: not at this distance, no14:51
fstxxadaptr: so you don't know. thank you for trying to help.14:51
peppesorry but i don't speach english very14:51
adaptrfstxx: nobody knows, until you put it in and see what happens14:51
adaptrsmartass14:52
adaptrjudgemental smartass, even14:52
[nrx]lol14:52
peppeubunt get this msg "Couldn't build LIRC kernel modules"  when i write "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source"14:52
adaptrand you need the sources..why ?14:53
fstxxadaptr: I looked a bit deeper into udev, as advised by MilhousePunkRock. It seems that the foolowing udev lines will do what I want, at least that is the way Iinterpret the output from udevtest:KERNEL=="video[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="video0", SYMLINK += "video-bttv"15:36
fstxxKERNEL=="vbi[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="vbi0", SYMLINK += "vbi-bttv"15:36
fstxxKERNEL=="radio[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="radio0", SYMLINK += "radio-bttv"15:36
fstxxKERNEL=="video[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/video%n"15:36
fstxxKERNEL=="vbi[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/vbi%n"15:36
fstxxKERNEL=="radio[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/radio%n"15:36
[nrx]can anyone help please?16:42
[nrx]hi folks. I managed to see input from the remote control with irw earlier... I've been working through the doc on the wiki, and now i see nothing at all from irw16:42
[nrx]oops16:42
[nrx]:)16:42
MythbuntuGuest79I needs some help with my remote control setup16:59
[nrx]please please please someone help me with  my remote :( :(17:15
sebrockanyone knows why I get this from transcoder when trying to transcode a mpeg2 to AVi: [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) video export module error: init failed17:17
sebrockit doesnt say mnore than that :|17:17
MythbuntuGuest79Anybody good with remote setup?17:19
[nrx]i'm having the same problem, MuthbuntuG17:20
MythbuntuGuest79Can't seem to find any help17:20
MythbuntuGuest79What is your problem nrx?17:20
[nrx]some of the buttons not working correctly, or working at all17:20
[nrx]what's yours?17:21
MythbuntuGuest79I have hp media center remote with a usb-uirt that I am trying to use with my dish sat box.17:22
[nrx]ah17:22
[nrx]well, i wouldn't be able to help you there i'm afraid!17:22
[nrx]just my 'ok' button on the remote has stopped working17:23
[nrx]since i followed info on the wiki17:23
MythbuntuGuest79what kind of remote do you have?17:23
[nrx]hauppauge nova-t 500 jobbie17:24
[nrx]the okay button isn't even shown with irw17:24
[nrx]the rest are though17:24
[nrx]:/17:24
[nrx]oh, and back/exit isn't17:25
[nrx]which is annoyin because if you're in different menus in mythtv, you can'get back unless you use 'esc' key on keyboard17:25
[nrx]seems the code isn't right17:26
MythbuntuGuest79check this link out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611081&highlight=nova-t+remote17:28
[nrx]yeah, it's just two buttons that aren't working17:30
[nrx]the code for OK seems to be wrong in lircd.conf17:33
LT_Tuvokmy channel line up is way off21:34
LT_Tuvokmythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates is not helping21:35
superm1LT_Tuvok, blow away the video source21:43
superm1and re-add it21:43
LT_Tuvokaye21:43
LT_Tuvokbecause I know Duke is not playing Miami on PBS :)21:44
LT_TuvokBug #188456 in mythtv21:52
dwf_starbandi had a "MythTV-Database reconfigure required" information popup on my desktop which said to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database"21:52
LT_Tuvoksorry21:52
LT_Tuvokdwf_starband, and?21:53
dwf_starbandit doesnt work21:53
KjetilKI'm not quite sure where to go from here, things are working, but they are under channel numbers, and I don't know how to figure out which channels are under which channel numbers21:53
dwf_starbandaccess denied21:53
LT_Tuvokdwf_starband, not enough details21:53
dwf_starbandIt's also possible that mysql-server wasn't running.21:53
LT_TuvokKjetilK, what?21:53
dwf_starbandis what it said21:54
KjetilKLT_Tuvok: uhm, hard to explain...21:54
LT_TuvokI see21:54
KjetilKif I go "watch TV" now, I get some channels...21:54
KjetilKif I type "21" on my keyboard, I get Cartoon Network21:55
KjetilKand if I type "25" I get some other channel21:55
dwf_starbandhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4111/21:55
LT_Tuvoksuperm1, thx21:55
KjetilKbut I don't know how to figure out what channels are on which number21:55
superm1np21:56
LT_TuvokKjetilK, try read the faq @mythtv's wiki21:56
LT_Tuvokdwf_starband, u221:56
LT_Tuvokread the docs folks21:56
dwf_starbandok21:56
KjetilKmmm, yeah...21:56
LT_Tuvokits all there, then come back with detailed queries21:57
LT_Tuvokits obvious when yyou don't even search21:57
LT_Tuvokfor common frequently asked questions21:57
* KjetilK nods in shame21:59
KjetilKthis is deeply confusing though, I've worked weeks with the lirc setup21:59
KjetilKand there things weren't documented, so I have read hundreds of pages without finding what I look for22:00
LT_TuvokI understand the frustration22:01
LT_Tuvoklirc hurt me bad as well22:01
LT_Tuvokbut gotit working22:01
* KjetilK has given up on PVR-150 for now22:01
KjetilKI'm not sure whether is is my lack of understanding or hardware failure22:01
LT_Tuvokthats whatI have22:02
LT_Tuvokgive up why, it works great22:02
LT_Tuvokremote and all22:02
KjetilKthe capture now works great22:02
KjetilKI had the IR remote working for a while too22:02
LT_Tuvokwhich kernel you using?22:03
KjetilKbut with really bad sensitivity22:03
KjetilKstock MythBuntu22:03
KjetilK2.6.22, I suppose22:03
LT_Tuvokyou run the mythbuntu control center22:03
LT_Tuvokthey make it so easy22:03
KjetilKwhen I got those to lircd daemons22:03
dwf_starbandi had really bad sensitivity with my remote, but now me and my wife use our nintendo ds's as network remotes, it works great22:03
LT_Tuvokit makes the lirc file for you22:04
dwf_starbandso we dont even need the ir remote anymore22:04
KjetilKyeah, did that, but now neither mode2 nor irw reports anything22:04
LT_Tuvokcool22:04
KjetilKdwf_starband: that's cool!22:04
LT_Tuvokyou need to do more doc combing22:04
LT_Tuvokthere are plenty copies of the lirc.conf online22:05
KjetilKLT_Tuvok: I doubt that's the problem22:05
KjetilKmode2 works by detecting the raw signals22:05
KjetilKwithout lirc even running22:05
KjetilKso, it is 100% not a lirc problem22:05
KjetilKeither the IR detector is dead, or there is a really deep problem in some software somewhere...22:06
LT_Tuvoknvr made the implication it was22:06
LT_Tuvokgl22:06
KjetilKnvr?22:06
LT_Tuvoknever22:06
KjetilKoh :-)22:07
KjetilKgot the volume knob on my Antec Fusion working though :-)22:07
KjetilKit uses lirc too22:07
LT_Tuvokever seen this page?22:07
LT_Tuvokhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PVR150_Remote22:08
KjetilKyup22:08
KjetilKI have the grey remote, though22:08
KjetilKbut as I said, I had it running, and has made no changes in that part of the config since then22:09
LT_Tuvokwhen that happened to me, somehow, my conf file was removed22:10
KjetilKhmmm22:12
KjetilKthey are all in place here22:13
onesojournercan some one tell me what the command is to configure vnc? I am doing a fresh install and I forgot what I did last time.22:20
Tuv0kubuntu newsgroups are hillarious22:45
superm1onesojourner, open up mcc23:05
superm1and do it all from there23:05
toorimais it possible to put a picture on a folder in mythvideo?23:33
Tuv0kis it possible to update my computer23:46
Tuv0kis it possible to surf the web in ubuntu?23:46
Tuv0kis it ....23:46
Tuv0kgeez23:47
superm1of course it is23:47
Tuv0kI know23:47
Tuv0kjust mocking some of the questions that get posted in damn near ALL ubuntu channels23:48
Tuv0kits amazing23:48
Tuv0kis google really a mystery to folks?23:48
Tuv0knew season of of flavor of love, and no hard disk space?23:49
Tuv0k:(23:49
Tuv0kthe horror23:49
* KjetilK thinks he is being bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmltv/+bug/18621623:50
KjetilKis that what's needed to get a mapping between the channel numbers and the channels?23:51
* KjetilK feels really stupid23:51
toorimasorry if that is a stupid question but i did search mythtvtalk and found nothing23:52

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