[00:10] <Stowaway> is there a filemanger in mythbuntu?
[00:11] <superm1> Thunar
[00:11] <Stowaway> cheers
[00:25] <stowaway2> hello. im still trying to get my divco dvb tuner to work.. I THINK  its firmware/drivers are install properly, coz /dev/dvb is populated by adapter0 and also i get this :
[00:25] <stowaway2> michael@mediacentre:/dev/dvb$ dmesg | grep dvb
[00:25] <stowaway2> [   31.481237] cx88/2: cx2388x dvb driver version 0.0.6 loaded
[00:25] <stowaway2> [   31.481241] cx88/2: registering cx8802 driver, type: dvb access: shared
[00:26] <stowaway2> but it cant bind in kaffine player. and cant open card in myth tv :(
[00:42] <superm1> look at more of dmesg
[00:42] <superm1> can you pastebin the whole thing
[00:42] <superm1> it will talk about the firmware in there
[00:44] <Daviey> superm1: i told stowaway about Thunar hours ago in #mythtv-users
[00:44] <Daviey> :S
[00:44] <superm1> Daviey, you hide in that bullpit?
[00:45] <Daviey> :O
[00:45] <Daviey> superm1: where else on freenode can you go to bully noobs.
[00:45] <superm1> #ubuntu?
[00:45] <Daviey> heh
[00:46] <foxbuntu> #noobs?
[00:46] <Daviey> And on that note, i should go to bed.  Catch you tommorrow chaps
[00:48] <superm1> night
[00:49] <skippy> I'm having a devil of a time getting my Mac Mini remote to work with Mythbuntu.
[00:50] <superm1> you need to see the right /dev/input/eventX device
[00:50] <superm1> in lircd.conf
[00:50] <superm1> that's not automatic unfortunatley
[00:50] <superm1> unfortunately even
[00:53] <skippy> it's /dev/input/event1 currently.   `irw` never shows anything; but irrecord was able to create a conf file.
[00:54] <skippy> If I try to map a key using the Myth key editor, it always tells me "unknown key"
[01:00] <superm1> there is a conf out there already
[01:00] <superm1> in /usr/share/lirc
[01:00] <superm1> for apple remotes
[01:00] <superm1> try using that one
[01:01] <superm1> copy it your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[01:01] <superm1> restart lirc
[01:01] <superm1> and try irw
[01:01] <skippy> no joy.  :(
[01:02] <superm1> and you are using the right driver?
[01:02] <Cygnet> evening everyone, I've got the cable problem sorted
[01:03] <skippy> superm1, macmini
[01:03] <skippy> DRIVER="macmini"
[01:03] <skippy> DEVICE="/dev/input/event1"
[01:03] <superm1> yeah that sounds right
[01:04] <Cygnet> now I've got another problem where TV listings keep getting the channels mixed up (e.g. it shows a Mythbusters marathon on channel 48 which is the Discovery Channel in Chicago, but here it's 55)
[01:04] <skippy> superm1, i can `sudo cat /dev/input/event1` and see stuff when I press the remote buttons.
[01:04] <skippy> but lircd doesn't seem to be seeing them.
[01:04] <superm1> Cygnet, sounds like you grabbed the wrong channel line up
[01:05] <superm1> in some areas of chicagoland there are like 4 or 5 lineups available to each area
[01:05] <Cygnet> I moved from Chicagoland to the Twin Cities
[01:05] <superm1> eg where i came from, i got lake zurich, arlington heights, highland park, and vernon hills line ups
[01:05] <Cygnet> it's still showing Chicago stuff in the lineups though
[01:05] <superm1> go and delete all the channels and refetch the channel listing
[01:05] <superm1> or even better delete the video source
[01:06] <superm1> and create a new one
[01:06] <Cygnet> I switched the lineup in schedulesdirect and in the settings to twin cities and refetched all the channels
[01:06] <Cygnet> will making a new video source make it start from scratch on the channel lineups?
[01:06] <Cygnet> I may try that
[01:06] <superm1> yeah just delete all the channels first
[01:06] <superm1> and that should work out right
[01:06] <Cygnet> all right
[01:07] <superm1> what was with the static earlier?
[01:07] <Cygnet> it was a problem with our cable subscription
[01:08] <Cygnet> we had full basic cable before (by accident, actually) and when we moved we started getting only the 20 or so channels that we were paying for :p
[01:08] <superm1> ah
[01:31] <Cygnet> hooray, I've got the new video source set up and refetched the channels and now all the shows are on the right channels
[01:46] <squish102> anyone use a dlink dsm-320 here as a frontend?
[02:06] <darkfrog> Hey guys, I'm having really painful issues with lirc. :o  If I do "ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc" and then run it as root lircd works, but even after that if I try to run as a normal user I get: lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lircd.pid, can someone help me figure out why?
[02:08] <darkfrog> if I try to run the "lirc" service it starts, but then crashes when I run irw and outputs to the syslog: Feb  1 20:07:23 myth lircd-0.8.2[6404]: couldn't find a compatible USB device
[02:09] <darkfrog> anyone actually away here? ;)
[02:23] <superm1> dont do that
[02:23] <superm1> with the symlinks
[02:23] <superm1> you want things to startup via the init script
[02:26] <darkfrog> superm1, but it refuses to...
[02:26] <darkfrog> superm1, not sure what else I can do
[02:26] <superm1> well then you have something configured wrong somewhere
[02:27] <superm1> did you mis-list your modules in hardware.conf?
[02:28] <darkfrog> superm1, could be...
[02:28] <superm1> well pastebin your hardware.conf
[02:28] <darkfrog> superm1, I have an ATI Remote Wonder II
[02:28] <superm1> yeah seems some people have had trouble with those in gutsy
[02:28] <darkfrog> superm1, should I be running with userspace or kernel driver?
[02:28] <superm1> that's up to you
[02:29] <superm1> people have mixed luck
[02:29] <darkfrog> superm1, what reasons should I choose one over another?
[02:29] <superm1> different responsiveness i'd guess
[02:29] <superm1> i dont have one of these remotes myself
[02:29] <superm1> so i haven't compared
[02:30] <darkfrog> http://pastebin.com/m5dc26b29
[02:31] <superm1> okay so when you are using the userspace driver, you shouldnt be having any /dev/lirc0
[02:32] <superm1> so the fact that you are forcing LIRCD_ARGS
[02:32] <superm1> is throwing it
[02:32] <superm1> those are automatically populated by the init script when necessary
[02:32] <darkfrog> so comment out the DEVICE line?
[02:33] <darkfrog> or comment out LIRCD_ARGS?
[02:33] <superm1> comment out LIRCD_ARGS
[02:34] <superm1> and also you should have no lirc modules loaded right now
[02:34] <superm1> make sure that none are
[02:34] <superm1> if you have a /dev/lirc0, something is loaded
[02:34] <darkfrog> There is a /dev/lirc0 and a /dev/lircd
[02:35] <superm1> well unload any lirc_* modules then
[02:35] <darkfrog> how?
[02:35] <superm1> lsmod | grep lirc
[02:35] <superm1> to find out which are loaded
[02:35] <superm1> and then sudo rmmod MODULE
[02:35] <superm1> to unload one
[02:36] <darkfrog> unloaded lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev...assuming I shouldn't unload usbcore. :o
[02:37] <darkfrog> what now?
[02:38] <superm1> try to restart the init script
[02:38] <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[02:38] <darkfrog> done
[02:39] <darkfrog> stopped lircmd lircd, started lircd
[02:40] <superm1> so see if its still running
[02:40] <superm1> and then try irw
[02:41] <darkfrog> ps -e | grep lirc found lircd
[02:41] <darkfrog> I invoke irw and it immediately returns
[02:42] <darkfrog> syslog says: Feb  1 20:41:45 myth lircd-0.8.2[6448]: couldn't find a compatible USB device
[02:42] <superm1> check if you have any other ati modules loaded
[02:42] <superm1> if not, switch to the kernel module driver in mcc
[02:42] <darkfrog> ati_remote2 is loaded
[02:43] <superm1> take that out
[02:43] <darkfrog> done
[02:43] <superm1> restart lirc and try again
[02:43] <darkfrog> k
[02:44] <darkfrog> same
[02:44] <superm1> okay so switch to the kernel driver and try it with that
[02:44] <superm1> mcc will handle the modifications to your hardare.conf for you
[02:44] <darkfrog> how do I do that?  I had used the Mythbuntu Control Center previously
[02:44] <darkfrog> gotcha
[02:44] <superm1> yeah that's what mcc stands for
[02:44] <darkfrog> brb
[02:46] <darkfrog> now what?
[02:46] <superm1> well once you do that, check what modules are loaded again
[02:46] <superm1> and you should have the lirc_ ones
[02:46] <superm1> which is okay
[02:46] <superm1> so try irw
[02:46] <darkfrog> I rebooted...is that alright?
[02:47] <superm1> well not necessarily
[02:47] <superm1> check and see if that atiremote2 one came back
[02:47] <superm1> if it did that will need to be blacklisted (and where the trouble from the start likely was)
[02:47] <darkfrog> I have ati_remote2, lirc_atiusb, and lirc_dev
[02:47] <superm1> unload them all
[02:48] <superm1> and then restart lirc with the init script
[02:48] <superm1> lirc_atiusb should get loaded again
[02:48] <darkfrog> it says lirc_atiusb is in use
[02:49] <darkfrog> okay, now lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev came back up
[02:50] <darkfrog> irw?
[02:51] <darkfrog> I run irw but no information is feeding to the screen from my remote
[02:51] <superm1> ywah
[02:51] <superm1> but irw didn't die
[02:52] <darkfrog> no
[02:52] <superm1> okay well that's a good sign
[02:52] <superm1> dmesg look nice too now?
[02:52] <darkfrog> originally though if I were to create a symbolic link to /dev/lirc and run lircd as root irw would work and actually output stuff...
[02:53] <superm1> okay, lets see the new hardware.conf then
[02:53] <superm1> see if anything else stands out in it
[02:53] <darkfrog> http://pastebin.com/m116f2041
[02:54] <superm1> okay that looks correct
[02:54] <superm1> lircd should be running as root right now
[02:54] <superm1> if you check the process listing
[02:54] <superm1> can you see the command that it was launched with right now?
[02:54] <darkfrog> how do I get the extra info in ps?
[02:55] <superm1> i usually do something like
[02:55] <superm1> ps aux | grep lirc
[02:55] <darkfrog> I get back: root      6374  0.0  0.0  15928   696 ?        Ss   20:49   0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0
[02:55] <superm1> yeah so running as root
[02:55] <superm1> and pointing to the device file /dev/lirc0
[02:56] <darkfrog> there is a /dev/lirc0 now
[02:56] <superm1> okay perhaps can you sudo cat /dev/lirc0
[02:56] <superm1> and press some buttons
[02:56] <superm1> and see if you get output in the terminal?
[02:56] <darkfrog> cat: /dev/lirc0: Invalid argument
[02:57] <superm1> what's dmesg say about anything lirc'y
[02:57] <darkfrog> http://pastebin.com/m3f1cc2b2
[02:57] <superm1> well that all looks right
[02:58] <superm1> try to irrecord
[02:58] <darkfrog> irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc
[02:58] <darkfrog> irrecord: default_init(): No such file or directory
[02:58] <darkfrog> irrecord: could not init hardware (lircd running ? --> close it, check permissions)
[02:58] <darkfrog> oops...sorry
[02:58] <superm1> irrecord -d /dev/lirc0
[02:58] <superm1> you'll need to do
[02:58] <superm1> the default device is not /dev/lirc0
[03:00] <darkfrog> that seems to have worked...
[03:00] <darkfrog> I had to run irrecord as root though
[03:01] <superm1> okay well this being the case, bad lircd.conf possibly?
[03:02] <darkfrog> I have a backup from a working one I had before.
[03:03] <darkfrog> you were right
[03:03] <darkfrog> I swapped out and it works now
[03:03] <superm1> okay so blacklist that atiremote2 module
[03:03] <superm1> file a bug against lirc
[03:04] <superm1> saying that module needs to be blacklisted
[03:04] <superm1> lirc in ubuntu that is
[03:04] <superm1> make sure you indicate that you are using gutsy
[03:04] <superm1> also post your two lircd.conf's
[03:04] <superm1> the functional one and non functional one
[03:04] <superm1> so those can get sorted out too
[03:04] <darkfrog> superm1, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - add "blacklist ati_remote2"?
[03:05] <superm1> that sounds right, but i don't remember offhand
[03:05] <darkfrog> superm1, I created the lircd.conf file that worked...I used irrecord
[03:05] <darkfrog> good thing I kept it. :)
[03:05] <superm1> that's interesting that you had to though
[03:05] <darkfrog> indeed
[03:06] <superm1> the lircd.conf that is included came from upstream
[03:06] <superm1> so it should have been okay
[03:06] <darkfrog> so everything should work when I reboot?
[03:06] <superm1> well you tell me :)
[03:06] <darkfrog> trying now. :)
[03:07] <darkfrog> In comparison to Mythdora, I love Mythbuntu, but there's still a LONG way it has to go.
[03:08] <superm1> darkfrog, well please file bugs with anything you catch
[03:08] <superm1> too many people go on the forums, say something doesn't work, and it gets lost :)
[03:08] <darkfrog> aha!
[03:08] <darkfrog> it works. :)
[03:08] <superm1> wonderful
[03:09] <superm1> if you can, at some point before hardy gets released, around beta/rc time - can you test again with hardy?
[03:09] <superm1> its good to have people with test hardware to verify these sorts of things
[03:10] <darkfrog> Thanks so much...you saved me a lot of headache and some frustrating glances from my wife. :-p
[03:10] <darkfrog> Test with Mythbuntu hardy?
[03:11] <superm1> yes
[03:11] <superm1> in about a month or two
[03:11] <superm1> you should be able to check just off the live disk then
[03:11] <superm1> without needing to sacrafice your install
[03:11] <darkfrog> yeah, I can do that
[03:11] <superm1> sacrafice even
[03:11] <superm1> sacrifice
[03:11] <darkfrog> hehe
[03:12] <darkfrog> Well, I'm a programmer, so if you ever need anything programming-wise just let me know...I'd love to be able to repay the debt I owe you. ;)
[03:12] <superm1> darkfrog, what's your language of choice?
[03:13] <darkfrog> superm1, Java
[03:13] <darkfrog> superm1, I wrote this: http://jseamless.org
[03:13] <darkfrog> superm1, but I know MANY languages
[03:13] <superm1> neat
[03:14] <superm1> darkfrog, well we can definitely use help.  the best thing will be to sit down at some point and look at our open blueprints
[03:14] <superm1> and see what appeals to you to write
[03:14] <superm1> or if you have any of your own ideas, we're very open
[03:15] <darkfrog> I do like the way the installation and MCC works, but the fact that it is designed as a normal application window is somewhat strange I think.
[03:16] <superm1> well eventually there will be an effort to convert it to libmythui
[03:16] <superm1> to have it part of mythfrontend
[03:16] <darkfrog> MythTV is designed with the idea in mind that it's likely running on a tv and certain assertions are made about how text should be displayed...normal applications don't make those assertions
[03:16] <superm1> but that's some time out
[03:16] <superm1> do agree with you there though
[03:16] <darkfrog> Also, adding functionality to a web-based mcc would be useful as well
[03:16] <superm1> its just that python code is like talking english.  you can write an entire fully functional app in a few hours
[03:17] <superm1> whereas writing it in libmythui, that would be a bit more involved - since having to learn the API that libmythui is using, and a lot of C callbacks
[03:17] <superm1> for things that are already handled with nice libraries in python
[03:17] <darkfrog> yeah, but the problem with Python is that it has similarities to Perl (granted not as bad), but it's something of a "write-only" language. ;)
[03:18] <darkfrog> maintainability is difficult with complex python projects
[03:18] <superm1> yeah i've noticed that about mcc
[03:18] <superm1> and started to abstract it some more
[03:18] <superm1> so as to not break it by so easily
[03:19] <darkfrog> the biggest complaint I've had with Mythbuntu is the remote functionality...everything else has been moderately smooth for me.
[03:19] <darkfrog> Except I had to run the install through safe-mode
[03:19] <superm1> yeah that's a problem for some people, but not anything that we can directly handle here
[03:20] <superm1> more of an upstream xorg issue there
[03:20] <superm1> the remote stuff has changed significantly already for hardy
[03:20] <superm1> its possible i already resolved your issue, but i have done so much this cycle, i forget a lot of the code i've written :)
[03:20] <darkfrog> I noticed...I installed a few months ago and then rebuilt a CD for AMD64 and it was different, then I updated as soon as I installed and it was again different. :o
[03:21] <darkfrog> that was another thing
[03:21] <superm1> here's what the lirc pages are looking like in hardy: http://mythbuntu.org/image/tid/8
[03:21] <darkfrog> when I first installed it let me choose "Other" (or something similar), but after updating that option was gone.
[03:21] <superm1> you're on gutsy still right?
[03:21] <darkfrog> That was an awesome feature...it let me explicitly choose each aspect
[03:21] <darkfrog> 7.10, yeah
[03:21] <superm1> okay good
[03:22] <superm1> yeah that other is back in hardy
[03:22] <superm1> as "Custom"
[03:22] <superm1> there was a lot of bugs with letting people customize stuff like that too much in ubiquity
[03:22] <superm1> which is why it was disabled for mcc
[03:22] <darkfrog> What would be great is a "Remote Wizard" that would take you through the process of either detecting or at least letting you try different remote drivers without having to do it manually.
[03:22] <superm1> well that, and a way to easily customize buttons via a gui
[03:23] <superm1> both specs, but more involved than initially expected :)
[03:23] <darkfrog> the wizard functionality would be involved, but I can't imagine it would be that complex
[03:24] <superm1> well actually again with hardy changes to lirc, it is a lot more feasible
[03:24] <darkfrog> it would be a life saver for people like me that were inches away from blowing it away and installing Fedora 8. :o
[03:24] <superm1> :)
[03:24] <darkfrog> seriously if you hadn't chimed in tonight I would probably be installing Fedora 8 right now
[03:25] <superm1> well how is the responsiveness with the kernel mode driver?
[03:25] <superm1> maybe just wiping the userspace one is an idea
[03:25] <superm1> to avoid the confusion
[03:25] <darkfrog> since I created my own lircd.conf the buttons don't work on MythTV, I'm going to write them by hand
[03:25] <darkfrog> so I can't really test yet
[03:26] <superm1> well -
[03:26] <darkfrog> I just wish I could use the built-in kernel module for my remote.
[03:26] <superm1> if you selected your button names to previously used names in the lircd.conf's
[03:26] <darkfrog> Most buttons work and I can even use it as a mouse...it just sucks that it doesn't capture several of the buttons.
[03:26] <superm1> the generate dynamic button mappings option
[03:26] <darkfrog> I didn't. :)
[03:26] <superm1> in mcc will generate lircrc's
[03:26] <superm1> oh nvm then :)
[03:27] <darkfrog> I planned to create a new one by handle anyway...too many buttons and I have very specific intentions for each one. :o
[03:27] <darkfrog> handle = hand
[03:28] <darkfrog> anyway...thanks again for your help.
[03:28] <darkfrog> I'm going to head to bed and probably work on writing out the control mappings in the morning. :)
[03:28] <superm1> okay great
[03:28] <superm1> night
[05:55] <ryansmith> I tried using the setup dialog for Mythbuntu and now Gnome's login manager won't boot. Does anyone know what's going on?
[06:00] <ryansmith> fireb0x
[06:00] <fireb0x> yiz0
[06:01] <fireb0x> my gdm is t3h died
[06:03] <famicon> its cuz u is gay
[06:04] <fireb0x> :(
[06:04] <famicon> it h8s u
[06:05] <fireb0x> oh noez. i am epic fail
[06:43] <timrit> hello. i have installed mythbuntu and i can get everything working except i cannot figure out how to make the mythbackend start automatically. Can anyone please help.
[06:43] <timrit> If I manually start mythbackend the system works fine. I currently have it running in a screen session.
[07:30] <Newy11> hi guys was just woundering if anyone could help me, i installed mythbuntu but cant seem to detect my VisionPlus DVB-T card. i tried mythdora before and it found it automaticly but i would much rather use mythbuntu. any thoughts?
[07:57] <Newyboy> hey all
[09:06] <fatejudger> I just installed a PVR-350 and after configuring the backend, I can't seem to watch tv on the frontend
[09:07] <fatejudger> it just gives me a black screen, then times out
[09:07] <fatejudger> at which point it goes back to the main menu
[09:07] <fatejudger> any suggestions?
[09:15] <superm1> Newy11, take a look and see if its just missing firmware
[09:15] <superm1> dmesg will tell you a lot
[09:17] <Newy11> ok cheers for the reply ;) sorry im total noob when it comes to linux do i just type dmesg in a terminal?
[09:17] <superm1> Newy11, yeah
[09:19] <Newy11> ok done that but not sure what im looking for. sorry for being noob :P
[09:22] <superm1> if you can pastebin the contents of it
[09:22] <superm1> i can help you look through it
[09:22] <superm1> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:27] <Newy11> newy11@mythtv-server:/$ dmesg
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.22-14-generic (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.22-14.46-generic)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000000e8000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003fff0000 (usable)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000003fff0000 - 000000003fff8000 (ACPI data)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 000000003fff8000 - 0000000040000000 (ACPI NVS)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000ffee0000 - 00000000fff00000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000]  BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] 127MB HIGHMEM available.
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] 896MB LOWMEM available.
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] found SMP MP-table at 000fbc70
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 262128) 0 entries of 256 used
[09:27] <Newy11> [    0.000000] Zone PFN ranges:
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[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   HighMem    229376 ->   262128
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]     0:        0 ->   262128
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] On node 0 totalpages: 262128
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   Normal zone: 1760 pages used for memmap
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   Normal zone: 223520 pages, LIFO batch:31
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 255 pages used for memmap
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000]   HighMem zone: 32497 pages, LIFO batch:7
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] DMI 2.3 present.
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: RSDP signature @ 0xC00FAA60 checksum 0
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: RSDP 000FAA60, 0014 (r0 AMI   )
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: RSDT 3FFF0000, 002C (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX     1000 MSFT  100000B)
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: FACP 3FFF0030, 0081 (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX       11 MSFT  100000B)
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: DSDT 3FFF0120, 3300 (r1    SiS      746      100 MSFT  100000D)
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: FACS 3FFF8000, 0040
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: APIC 3FFF00C0, 005A (r1 AMIINT SiS740XX     1000 MSFT  100000B)
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
[09:28] <superm1> pastebin dude
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] Processor #0 6:8 APIC version 16
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1])
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
[09:28] <Newy11> [    0.000000] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
[09:29] <superm1> can you pastebin that instead of flooding?
[09:30] <Newy11> yeah sorry i didnt mean to paste it in there :(
[09:33] <Newy11> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54436/
[09:39] <Newy11> anything u can see that maybe making it not show up in the mythTV setup?
[09:39] <superm1> does this card do both analog and digital?
[09:40] <superm1> it looks like the digital frontend for it is fully recognized and setup
[09:44] <Newy11> im not 100% sure if it does both
[09:44] <Newy11> im just googleing atm to see if it does
[09:44] <superm1> well minimally it looks like it does digital
[09:44] <superm1> and that its working as expected
[09:44] <superm1> what happens when you configure it as a dvb device in mythtv-setup?
[09:46] <Newy11> says could not open
[09:48] <superm1> did you try after you rebooted?
[09:48] <superm1> after install that is?
[09:48] <superm1> i've heard of some chaps that can't do some tuner stuff until after the reboot
[09:49] <Newy11> yeah i did a install but i rebooted it a min ago and it actually has come up now ;) cheers heaps for your help
[09:49] <superm1> great :)
[09:50] <Newy11> now i just have to get my head around installing Shepherd as im a aussie user
[09:50] <superm1> well if you get a good understanding of it and want to get some automation wrapped around it, we're open to patches :)
[09:52] <Newy11> great sounds awesome, thanks heaps again ;)
[09:53] <superm1> best of luck
[10:34] <Newy11> hey all, i was just trying to install Shepherd as i am a AUS user and i was trying to install perl dependencies using the cpan command and it wants me to setup cpan first. so i clicked yes setup, now its asking where is your unzip program? [path]
[10:35] <Newy11> any ideas?
[13:00] <fstxx> I have one tv card in an ubuntu box, running mythtv. Now I want to add another. How do I ensure that the old card still get /dev/video0, and the new new takes /dev/video1
[13:00] <MilhousePunkRock> fstxx: If it starts mixing up, use a udev rule to fix the names...
[13:01] <MilhousePunkRock> fstxx: As described here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Device_Filenames_and_udev
[13:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It actually pretty simple
[13:02] <fstxx> Thanks, I'll look at that page
[13:54] <fstxx> Milhousepunkrock: That page seems to describe something else. Do you know is there is a way to
[13:55] <fstxx> keep the /dev/video0 to point to the old card.
[13:55] <adaptr> make a module alias and couple it to that dev node
[13:59] <fstxx> adapter: did you talk to me? I don't know what a modules alias is, how I make one, or how to couple it to a dev node.
[14:14] <adaptr> I presume you have two video cards, and need somehow to assign specific device nodes to them ?
[14:14] <adaptr> my first question would be why
[14:26] <fstxx> adaptr: sorry, i was away? Are you still there?
[14:27] <fstxx> adaptr: I have one card in the box now, and i want to add another without fucking up what works now.
[14:28] <adaptr> how would you fuck it up ? have you tried it ?
[14:28] <adaptr> if you mean losing your outputs, yes, that may happen - remove it from the stack and hang a monitor and keyboard
[14:28] <adaptr> you will have to reconfigure certain things regardless
[14:29] <adaptr> as with all hardware changes
[14:30] <fstxx> adaptr: no, I have no tried yet. I did have problems with sound when I had a pci sound card in the box in addition to the mootherboard sound devices.
[14:33] <fstxx> adaptr: conguring mythtv was a pain, so I don't want to disturb that configuration.
[14:34] <adaptr> did you install mythbuntu ?
[14:34] <adaptr> it's about as painless as it gets
[14:34] <adaptr> and is fully upgradable to the *buntu of your choice afterwards
[14:35] <fstxx> adaptr: It was not pianless for me. But now it does work. I do not want to start over. But you suggested that there might be way. You said something about mdule alias>
[14:36] <adaptr> no, if you want to add a TV card, you must add the TV card
[14:36] <adaptr> reboot
[14:36] <adaptr> then see what happens
[14:37] <fstxx> adaptr: now: bttv card -> /dev/video0 what I want: bttv card -> /dev/video0, pvr-1110 -> /dev/video1.
[14:37] <adaptr> fstxx: why ? the location of the card is irrelevant to its functionality
[14:38] <fstxx> adaptr: wen I had two sound cards, the devices switched aournd on each boot. Will they vidoe devices do that?
[14:38] <fstxx> adapter: because myth is configured to use /dev/video0, and I want to keep that working. I don't want
[14:39] <fstxx> to remove the card in mythtv-setup.
[14:39] <adaptr> fstxx: that is dependent on the way in which the module loader is configured, and for sound devices - and probably also video devices - you can "solve" this by defining module aliases
[14:39] <adaptr> fstxx: you are making a LOT of assumptions about something that you have not yet tried
[14:39] <adaptr> the first step, regardless of what you think or what you want, is to ADD THE HARDWARE
[14:39] <adaptr> nothing makes sense until you do that
[14:42] <fstxx> adaptr: If I do that, and /dev/video0 no longer is the bttv card, my daughter can't watch tv until I have figured out how to fix it. I prefer to figure out that before I do that
[14:43] <fstxx> adaptr: pleeas be honest now. Do you know how do that with module aliases?
[14:48] <adaptr> fstxx: so I'm dishonest now ?
[14:48] <adaptr> fucking usless statement that seriously has no place here
[14:49] <adaptr> in order to fix any ensuing problems, you will first have to EXPERIENCE them
[14:49] <peppe> qualcuno mi può aiutare ad installare lirc
[14:49] <adaptr> peppe: EnNglish, please
[14:49] <adaptr> Engrish, even
[14:49] <[nrx]> hi folks! :)
[14:50] <peppe> can you help me to install lirc
[14:50] <[nrx]> trying to get a remote working?
[14:51] <adaptr> peppe: not at this distance, no
[14:51] <fstxx> adaptr: so you don't know. thank you for trying to help.
[14:51] <peppe> sorry but i don't speach english very
[14:51] <adaptr> fstxx: nobody knows, until you put it in and see what happens
[14:52] <adaptr> smartass
[14:52] <adaptr> judgemental smartass, even
[14:52] <[nrx]> lol
[14:52] <peppe> ubunt get this msg "Couldn't build LIRC kernel modules"  when i write "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source"
[14:53] <adaptr> and you need the sources..why ?
[15:36] <fstxx> adaptr: I looked a bit deeper into udev, as advised by MilhousePunkRock. It seems that the foolowing udev lines will do what I want, at least that is the way Iinterpret the output from udevtest:KERNEL=="video[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="video0", SYMLINK += "video-bttv"
[15:36] <fstxx> KERNEL=="vbi[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="vbi0", SYMLINK += "vbi-bttv"
[15:36] <fstxx> KERNEL=="radio[0-9]*", DRIVERS=="bttv" , NAME="radio0", SYMLINK += "radio-bttv"
[15:36] <fstxx> KERNEL=="video[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/video%n"
[15:36] <fstxx> KERNEL=="vbi[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/vbi%n"
[15:36] <fstxx> KERNEL=="radio[0-9]*", DRIVERS!="bttv" , NAME="v4l/radio%n"
[16:42] <[nrx]> can anyone help please?
[16:42] <[nrx]> hi folks. I managed to see input from the remote control with irw earlier... I've been working through the doc on the wiki, and now i see nothing at all from irw
[16:42] <[nrx]> oops
[16:42] <[nrx]> :)
[16:59] <MythbuntuGuest79> I needs some help with my remote control setup
[17:15] <[nrx]> please please please someone help me with  my remote :( :(
[17:17] <sebrock> anyone knows why I get this from transcoder when trying to transcode a mpeg2 to AVi: [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) video export module error: init failed
[17:17] <sebrock> it doesnt say mnore than that :|
[17:19] <MythbuntuGuest79> Anybody good with remote setup?
[17:20] <[nrx]> i'm having the same problem, MuthbuntuG
[17:20] <MythbuntuGuest79> Can't seem to find any help
[17:20] <MythbuntuGuest79> What is your problem nrx?
[17:20] <[nrx]> some of the buttons not working correctly, or working at all
[17:21] <[nrx]> what's yours?
[17:22] <MythbuntuGuest79> I have hp media center remote with a usb-uirt that I am trying to use with my dish sat box.
[17:22] <[nrx]> ah
[17:22] <[nrx]> well, i wouldn't be able to help you there i'm afraid!
[17:23] <[nrx]> just my 'ok' button on the remote has stopped working
[17:23] <[nrx]> since i followed info on the wiki
[17:23] <MythbuntuGuest79> what kind of remote do you have?
[17:24] <[nrx]> hauppauge nova-t 500 jobbie
[17:24] <[nrx]> the okay button isn't even shown with irw
[17:24] <[nrx]> the rest are though
[17:24] <[nrx]> :/
[17:25] <[nrx]> oh, and back/exit isn't
[17:25] <[nrx]> which is annoyin because if you're in different menus in mythtv, you can'get back unless you use 'esc' key on keyboard
[17:26] <[nrx]> seems the code isn't right
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest79> check this link out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611081&highlight=nova-t+remote
[17:30] <[nrx]> yeah, it's just two buttons that aren't working
[17:33] <[nrx]> the code for OK seems to be wrong in lircd.conf
[21:34] <LT_Tuvok> my channel line up is way off
[21:35] <LT_Tuvok> mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates is not helping
[21:43] <superm1> LT_Tuvok, blow away the video source
[21:43] <superm1> and re-add it
[21:43] <LT_Tuvok> aye
[21:44] <LT_Tuvok> because I know Duke is not playing Miami on PBS :)
[21:52] <LT_Tuvok> Bug #188456 in mythtv
[21:52] <dwf_starband> i had a "MythTV-Database reconfigure required" information popup on my desktop which said to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database"
[21:52] <LT_Tuvok> sorry
[21:53] <LT_Tuvok> dwf_starband, and?
[21:53] <dwf_starband> it doesnt work
[21:53] <KjetilK> I'm not quite sure where to go from here, things are working, but they are under channel numbers, and I don't know how to figure out which channels are under which channel numbers
[21:53] <dwf_starband> access denied
[21:53] <LT_Tuvok> dwf_starband, not enough details
[21:53] <dwf_starband> It's also possible that mysql-server wasn't running.
[21:53] <LT_Tuvok> KjetilK, what?
[21:54] <dwf_starband> is what it said
[21:54] <KjetilK> LT_Tuvok: uhm, hard to explain...
[21:54] <LT_Tuvok> I see
[21:54] <KjetilK> if I go "watch TV" now, I get some channels...
[21:55] <KjetilK> if I type "21" on my keyboard, I get Cartoon Network
[21:55] <KjetilK> and if I type "25" I get some other channel
[21:55] <dwf_starband> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4111/
[21:55] <LT_Tuvok> superm1, thx
[21:55] <KjetilK> but I don't know how to figure out what channels are on which number
[21:56] <superm1> np
[21:56] <LT_Tuvok> KjetilK, try read the faq @mythtv's wiki
[21:56] <LT_Tuvok> dwf_starband, u2
[21:56] <LT_Tuvok> read the docs folks
[21:56] <dwf_starband> ok
[21:56] <KjetilK> mmm, yeah...
[21:57] <LT_Tuvok> its all there, then come back with detailed queries
[21:57] <LT_Tuvok> its obvious when yyou don't even search
[21:57] <LT_Tuvok> for common frequently asked questions
[21:59]  * KjetilK nods in shame
[21:59] <KjetilK> this is deeply confusing though, I've worked weeks with the lirc setup
[22:00] <KjetilK> and there things weren't documented, so I have read hundreds of pages without finding what I look for
[22:01] <LT_Tuvok> I understand the frustration
[22:01] <LT_Tuvok> lirc hurt me bad as well
[22:01] <LT_Tuvok> but gotit working
[22:01]  * KjetilK has given up on PVR-150 for now
[22:01] <KjetilK> I'm not sure whether is is my lack of understanding or hardware failure
[22:02] <LT_Tuvok> thats whatI have
[22:02] <LT_Tuvok> give up why, it works great
[22:02] <LT_Tuvok> remote and all
[22:02] <KjetilK> the capture now works great
[22:02] <KjetilK> I had the IR remote working for a while too
[22:03] <LT_Tuvok> which kernel you using?
[22:03] <KjetilK> but with really bad sensitivity
[22:03] <KjetilK> stock MythBuntu
[22:03] <KjetilK> 2.6.22, I suppose
[22:03] <LT_Tuvok> you run the mythbuntu control center
[22:03] <LT_Tuvok> they make it so easy
[22:03] <KjetilK> when I got those to lircd daemons
[22:03] <dwf_starband> i had really bad sensitivity with my remote, but now me and my wife use our nintendo ds's as network remotes, it works great
[22:04] <LT_Tuvok> it makes the lirc file for you
[22:04] <dwf_starband> so we dont even need the ir remote anymore
[22:04] <KjetilK> yeah, did that, but now neither mode2 nor irw reports anything
[22:04] <LT_Tuvok> cool
[22:04] <KjetilK> dwf_starband: that's cool!
[22:04] <LT_Tuvok> you need to do more doc combing
[22:05] <LT_Tuvok> there are plenty copies of the lirc.conf online
[22:05] <KjetilK> LT_Tuvok: I doubt that's the problem
[22:05] <KjetilK> mode2 works by detecting the raw signals
[22:05] <KjetilK> without lirc even running
[22:05] <KjetilK> so, it is 100% not a lirc problem
[22:06] <KjetilK> either the IR detector is dead, or there is a really deep problem in some software somewhere...
[22:06] <LT_Tuvok> nvr made the implication it was
[22:06] <LT_Tuvok> gl
[22:06] <KjetilK> nvr?
[22:06] <LT_Tuvok> never
[22:07] <KjetilK> oh :-)
[22:07] <KjetilK> got the volume knob on my Antec Fusion working though :-)
[22:07] <KjetilK> it uses lirc too
[22:07] <LT_Tuvok> ever seen this page?
[22:08] <LT_Tuvok> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PVR150_Remote
[22:08] <KjetilK> yup
[22:08] <KjetilK> I have the grey remote, though
[22:09] <KjetilK> but as I said, I had it running, and has made no changes in that part of the config since then
[22:10] <LT_Tuvok> when that happened to me, somehow, my conf file was removed
[22:12] <KjetilK> hmmm
[22:13] <KjetilK> they are all in place here
[22:20] <onesojourner> can some one tell me what the command is to configure vnc? I am doing a fresh install and I forgot what I did last time.
[22:45] <Tuv0k> ubuntu newsgroups are hillarious
[23:05] <superm1> onesojourner, open up mcc
[23:05] <superm1> and do it all from there
[23:33] <toorima> is it possible to put a picture on a folder in mythvideo?
[23:46] <Tuv0k> is it possible to update my computer
[23:46] <Tuv0k> is it possible to surf the web in ubuntu?
[23:46] <Tuv0k> is it ....
[23:47] <Tuv0k> geez
[23:47] <superm1> of course it is
[23:47] <Tuv0k> I know
[23:48] <Tuv0k> just mocking some of the questions that get posted in damn near ALL ubuntu channels
[23:48] <Tuv0k> its amazing
[23:48] <Tuv0k> is google really a mystery to folks?
[23:49] <Tuv0k> new season of of flavor of love, and no hard disk space?
[23:49] <Tuv0k> :(
[23:49] <Tuv0k> the horror
[23:50]  * KjetilK thinks he is being bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmltv/+bug/186216
[23:51] <KjetilK> is that what's needed to get a mapping between the channel numbers and the channels?
[23:51]  * KjetilK feels really stupid
[23:52] <toorima> sorry if that is a stupid question but i did search mythtvtalk and found nothing