[00:13] <oem__> what controls automounting in xubuntu? cause it doesnt seem to be working for me
[00:14] <soldats> hal afaik
[00:15] <oem__> hmm
[00:15] <oem__> wouldnt that not being functional screw other stuff up?
[00:16] <soldats> what are you trying to automount
[00:28] <oem__> anything i put in the dvd drive
[00:29] <oem__> the drive works i installed from it and i can mount stuff from the cli
[00:29] <oem__> automount is inop though
[00:38] <oem__> well lets see if the gnome volume manager being installed fixes things
[00:55] <oem> well installing gnome volume manager didnt fix anythign
[00:56] <soldats> do you have anything else mounted where the cdrom0 should normally be mounted ie. another hdd
[00:56] <oem> nope
[00:57] <oem> and it works if i manually mount it
[00:57] <soldats> wierd, i wonder if somehow it was removed from .hal.mtab
[00:58] <oem> and it seems to only effect the cdrom because usb devices show up
[01:36] <oem> so any ideas on how to fix automounting
[01:43] <evil_tech> anyone?
[02:24] <Xcriss> Can I seek help for ubuntu here?
[02:26] <Xcriss> Is there someone here that can help me witht he installation
[02:28] <roflmaoxx> what do u have problems with?
[02:29] <Xcriss> after you hit
[02:29] <Xcriss> install/load or what ever the first option is
[02:30] <Xcriss> is it supposed to take 5+ minutes before you see anything after that?
[02:30] <Xcriss> when you load off disk
[02:31] <roflmaoxx> nope :O
[02:32] <Xcriss> how long is it supposed to be at the screen with the moving bar
[02:32] <roflmaoxx> depends on ur pc i guess
[02:32] <roflmaoxx> but not 5 minutes =p
[02:32] <Xcriss> ill check to make sure my files aren't corrupted
[02:33] <roflmaoxx> even my p2 200mhz or something starts in 1min or so
[02:34] <Xcriss> im running an amd 64 bit 2.01ghz
[02:38] <roflmaoxx> hmm no idea then :(
[03:59] <speedcore> yo... anyone who has experience with vnc-server..  ultravnc won't connect
[04:04] <ere4si> yeh - I use vnc to connect to my server
[04:04] <ere4si> have you got the right comp name and ip address?
[04:05] <speedcore> yeah
[04:05] <speedcore> and it's LAN
[04:05] <speedcore> Just trying to set it up
[04:05] <speedcore> seems tricky on Xubuntu
[04:06] <speedcore> Been flowing this thread:  http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html
[05:11] <sugardrunk> å
[05:11] <sugardrunk> sorry
[05:11] <sugardrunk> ...not
[05:13] <sugardrunk> ...but I would like to ask if I can edit the menu of applications etc. of XUBUNTU via [gedit] or [leafpad] ???
[05:13] <sugardrunk> because the menu editor is useless!
[05:20] <ere4si> I agree sugardrunk  - it needs work!
[05:21] <ere4si> sugardrunk, I'm not on my xubuntu bow atm - can you type in a terminal -   locate menu*   - and we'll see if we can't edit it
[05:29] <sugardrunk> i would just like to know if xfce4 stores the menu somewhere
[05:30] <ere4si> gotta find it first
[05:32] <sugardrunk> can it be a anywhere :D
[05:34] <ere4si> /usr/share or /usr/bin I think
[05:34] <sugardrunk> ok, and is there a name fot the file?
[05:35] <ere4si> I would try    locate menu
[05:37] <sugardrunk> ...
[05:37] <sugardrunk> i cannot edit it that way...
[05:38] <sugardrunk> but thanks
[05:38] <sugardrunk> maybe i'm too tired...
[05:38] <sugardrunk> need to go to sleep :D
[05:38] <ere4si> that finds it then sudo mousepad /path/to/file
[05:39] <sugardrunk> a new trial tomorrow... or maybe the day after...
[05:39] <sugardrunk> thanks anyways
[05:39] <sugardrunk> that menu would not give me edit anything
[05:40] <ere4si> k
[05:40] <sugardrunk> there was nothing usefull
[05:40] <sugardrunk> but that is for another day
[05:40] <sugardrunk> sorry :D
[05:40] <sugardrunk> i am too epic
[05:40] <sugardrunk> :D
[05:40] <sugardrunk> bye :D
[05:40] <ere4si> can you right click an entry you want to move?
[05:43] <sugardrunk> ... so im looking for the applications memu of the panel... but im drunk...
[05:44] <sugardrunk> and there is nothing if I locate it
[05:44] <sugardrunk> or in the "menu editor" ... which is useless :D
[05:45] <ere4si> you open applications and there isn't any applications?
[05:45] <sugardrunk> there is / are
[05:45] <sugardrunk> but cannot edit them
[05:45] <sugardrunk> from where?
[05:45] <sugardrunk> o
[05:45] <sugardrunk> h
[05:46] <sugardrunk> yea the menu editor...
[05:46] <sugardrunk> there is no apps
[05:46] <sugardrunk> none
[05:47] <ere4si> try this - open the applications menu - right click an option you want to remove or whatever - and you should get a drop down menu giving you choices
[05:47] <sugardrunk> xfce4?
[05:47] <sugardrunk> xubuntu?
[05:47] <sugardrunk> no way
[05:48] <ere4si> like I said earlier I'm not at my xubuntu box atm...
[05:48] <sugardrunk> yep
[05:48] <sugardrunk> thanks anyways
[05:49] <sugardrunk> i am also NOT in my full sense right now :D
[05:49] <ere4si> k
[05:49] <sugardrunk> so....
[05:49] <sugardrunk> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[05:49] <sugardrunk> :DDDDDDDD:
[05:49] <sugardrunk> :DDDDDDDDD
[05:50] <sugardrunk> funny
[05:50] <sugardrunk> but nice
[05:50] <sugardrunk> :D
[05:50] <soldats> dont spam
[05:50] <sugardrunk> bye
[05:50] <sugardrunk> i wont, no more
[05:51] <sugardrunk> soldats, and was not for you either... so no offence
[05:51] <sugardrunk> soldats, or "your matter"
[05:51] <sugardrunk> soldats, but sorry
[05:53] <soldats> :P
[05:53] <sugardrunk> soldats, no really
[05:54] <sugardrunk> soldats, dont take it so serious :D I lost the track my self (had a question that went...)
[05:55] <sugardrunk> [07:29] <sugardrunk> i would just like to know if xfce4 stores the menu somewhere
[05:56] <sugardrunk> and how to edit it by gedit / leafpad / mousepad or such
[05:56] <soldats> you mean for the system part of the menu
[05:57] <sugardrunk> all of them.... menu editor wont work
[05:57] <sugardrunk> the whole menu
[05:58] <sugardrunk> where is it stored
[05:58] <sugardrunk> where are the files for it?
[05:59] <soldats> it isnt, the xfce menu is restrictive in that you need to either edit the xml files or you can create .desktop files in order to edit the menu. a quick reference to the xubuntu xfce wiki should give you all the info you need
[05:59] <soldats>  something like /.config/xfce/menu or similar to that i cant remember
[05:59] <sugardrunk> ok thanks
[05:59] <soldats> go to the wiki for xubunut though
[06:00] <sugardrunk> i will look for them tomorrow and figure out (don't even know why I was bothering tonight... sorry :D)
[06:00] <soldats> its alright well now you know where to look :)
[06:01] <sugardrunk> yea :D
[07:03] <lewdvanity> I just installed ubuntu I'm pretty much a newbie to this os, and I am trying to get my sound card to work, Im using a dell MT3705 that had vista on it
[07:36] <TeslaTony> Hello
[07:37] <TeslaTony> Question: I'm currently running Ubuntu, and have added KDE, and want to add XFCE as well. ANy suggestions of how I should go about that?
[07:39] <aanderse> sudo apt-get install xubuntu would work
[07:39] <aanderse> might install more than you want, though
[07:39] <aanderse> depends
[07:39] <aanderse> when you say you're running "ubuntu", do you mean "kubuntu" or "ubunu" ?
[07:40] <TeslaTony> Ubuntu, the one that defaults to Gnome. My girlfriend prefers KDE, and I run a number of KDE apps, plus I wanted to play with KDE more, so I installed KDE
[07:41] <aanderse> ok
[07:41] <aanderse> yeah so you could probably just type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu" with no problems then
[07:41] <TeslaTony> I was considering messing with some older hardware, and just generally wanted to see more of XFCE
[07:42] <ere4si> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[07:42] <TeslaTony> Groovy
[07:42] <ere4si> it's in synaptic if you want GUI
[07:42] <TeslaTony> ere4si: Why that command over aanderse's suggestion?
[07:43] <ere4si> xubuntu is a distro - xubuntu-desktop installs xfce4 + apps - xfce4 installs the window manager and uses installed apps
[07:44] <TeslaTony> Gotcha. Would installing the xubuntu apps cause any trouble for me?
[07:45] <ere4si> not at all - you would just double up on some things is all
[07:45] <TeslaTony> Multiple word processors, media players, browsers, etc?
[07:45] <ere4si> yep
[07:45] <ere4si> if you've got the space...
[07:45] <TeslaTony> Actually, I'd kinda like to try some of them
[07:46] <ere4si> go ahead with xubuntu-desktop for the experience :)
[07:47] <ere4si> when you install it you will see the extra apps as dependencies
[07:47] <TeslaTony> OK
[07:56] <TeslaTony> Cool. The command line spat back "package xubuntu not found," but Synaptic had it
[07:57] <TeslaTony> ...which I thought I had looked at previously...
[07:57] <soldats> wierd it should have been there
[07:58] <TeslaTony> BTW, how well does xfce handle KDE and Gnome applications? I recall some time ago that the different platforms didn't always play nice
[08:26] <freepenguin> now I've finally the page of ubuntu free penguin edition: http://www.freepenguin.it/ubuntufp-download-en.html
[11:38] <slow-motion> hi
[11:41] <ere4si> !hi
[11:41] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[11:41] <quittt> how do I edit 'system' menu?
[11:42] <ere4si> quittt, what os do you have?
[11:42] <quittt> Xubuntu
[11:43] <quittt> (what a question!)
[11:46] <ere4si> you just asked on #ubuntu quittt  - which is why I checked...
[11:46] <quittt> ok
[11:47] <ere4si> there's a menu entry   applications - settings - menu editor   tried that?
[11:48] <quittt> yes
[11:48] <quittt> but everything is inside 'system'
[11:48] <quittt> useless
[11:49] <PeckaH> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/manually-edit-the-xfce-menu/
[11:50] <PeckaH> https://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/howto-remove-menu-entries-from-the-system-menu/
[11:52] <quittt> PeckaH, and where is the menu entries that are located in Others in XFCE?
[11:52] <quittt> because they are NOT in those places
[11:53] <quittt> PeckaH, actually they are "lost" in other place
[11:53] <PeckaH> $ locate *.desktop
[11:54] <PeckaH> I had the same problem a while back and those are the main things I did
[11:55] <quittt> /usr/share/gnome/apps/Games
[11:55] <quittt> argh hehe
[11:55] <quittt> thanks =]
[11:57] <PeckaH> :)
[12:00] <quittt> PeckaH, how do I restart it?
[12:00] <quittt> restart the XFCE menu?
[12:02] <PeckaH> or restart X, I don't really remember
[12:11] <siggjen> i can't get my 2 soundcard setup work functionally ):
[12:11] <siggjen> i want standard sound in soundcard 0
[12:12] <siggjen> and i want to play music in soundcard 2
[14:51] <Epicenter> Hello :) I am trying to put Ubuntu (Xubuntu to be specific) on a laptop with no CDROM drive. It can ONLY boot the HDD, no FDD or USB Devices. I am trying to install it from another machine, with the HDD attached to a USB adapter. But it seems to want to detect all hardware from the installing machine.
[14:51] <Epicenter> Is there a way to get it to detect the hardware of the machine I install it in next?
[14:52] <Epicenter> Or to otherwise get an installer ON the hard disk to install from the proper machine?
[15:53] <Laney> Epicenter713: Does this help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[16:36] <Epicenter713> Fully updated Xubuntu. Everything is fast and responsive when I first am logging in, or when I click "log out" in XFCE. but once XFCE finishes loading everything is sluggish and horribly choppy, even mouse movements are badly delayed. Any ideas what may be wrong? :(
[17:07] <nikolam> Epicenter713, if hard disk activity is huge try to look for gam_server process and kill it.
[17:07] <nikolam> also if you have slower gr. card, uninstall compiz fusion
[17:10] <Epicenter713> It's a Silicon Motion Lynx3DM+, really really low end
[17:10] <Epicenter713> Isn't compiz crazy GPU intensive?
[17:10] <Epicenter713> Xorg is using 96% of CPU
[17:17] <nanbudh> in xubuntu one can set the screen resolution in settings>screens and graphics as well as settings>display settings. whats the difference? and if by chance anyone is using samtron 55v 15inch crt could you suggest what is the best resolution to work and the herz too?
[17:19] <nikolam> nanbudh, zou need to find EXACT specification for horizontal and vertical refresh ranges for zour monitor. And zou need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set all frequencies right. If zou dont set frequencz right, zou can damage zour monitor if frequencz is out of range
[17:22] <nanbudh> nikolam: my monitor is quite old and i donot have its manual or anything with me. how can i find out the specs?
[17:30] <nikolam> nanbudh, on internet. I can trz to find it
[17:32] <nanbudh> i am searching..
[17:32] <nikolam> nanbudh, it is samsung monitor, is it not?
[17:32] <nanbudh> yes samsung samtran 55v 15 inch CRT
[17:32] <nanbudh> *samtron
[17:33] <nanbudh> the thing is there is a samtron 55v mentioned in the screen and graphics. but one can change the resolution too. which resolution to choose is the question
[17:35] <nanbudh> BRB
[17:37] <nanbudh> back
[17:38] <nikolam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54498/
[17:38] <nikolam> 30-55 horizontal, 50-120 vertical
[17:39] <nikolam> Samtron; Samtron 55v; sam12b7; 30-55; 50-120; 1
[17:40] <nanbudh> nikolam: can i set these in settings>screens and graphics? or shold i use dpkg xorg server command u told me earlier about?
[17:41] <nanbudh> and which resolution should i use?
[17:41] <nikolam> try 1024x768 that will work for shure
[17:41] <nikolam> and 60hz and 70 and 75hz refresh rate.
[17:42] <nikolam> check other specifications for higher refresh rate, if it can work
[17:43] <nanbudh> i just checked that there is no place to set the horizontal and vertical refresh rates anywhere. and yes its working at 1024x768
[17:44] <nanbudh> thanks for the help
[17:44] <nikolam> there is place to set if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and restart, like you should do.
[17:44] <nikolam> samtron 56V(15") with max resolution @ 800x600@85Hz or 1024x768@60Hz
[17:45] <nikolam> refresh rates are stated in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:46] <nanbudh> can i simply do sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make changes over there? that way i wont have to reboot just now. they would take effect the next time. would that be okay?
[17:50] <nikolam> Yes you can. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does just that. But it is safer to run a command then to do it yourself. You can always use command line sudo nano to make changes if X wont start.
[17:51] <nanbudh> okay thank you very much
[17:53] <nikolam> np :)
[18:14] <PsynoKhi0> Hi, is it possible to create a Xubuntu/DeLI dual boot?
[18:23] <Simpatico22> hi
[18:23] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[19:05] <Ven]n> i was just wondering.. why is totem player being the default movie app and not mplayer or vlc?
[19:12] <pmj> due to the legal issues with mplayer and vlc. Also, Totem is a simpler and more integrated player
[19:13] <pmj> making it the superior choice up until you actually want to use it to watch a movie, where it all falls down ;)
[19:14] <TheSheep> shame it doesn't have subtitle support
[19:14] <TheSheep> but well, all the world speaks English
[19:15] <pmj> it does, if you place the subtitles in the same directory as the movie. Not all formats are supported, though, and it has no support for styled subtitles either
[19:16] <TheSheep> I have them in the same directory
[19:16] <Ven]n> pmj, ah, i see
[19:16] <TheSheep> nevermind
[19:16] <TheSheep> sorry for bitching :)
[19:17] <pmj> make sure the subtitle file has the exact same as the movie file, except the extension
[19:17] <pmj> exact same name
[19:18] <pmj> or just use a better player, which I'm pretty sure you already did :)
[19:38] <slow-motion> re
[20:58] <yannick_lm> hi all
[21:32] <misterblonde2517> can anyone reccomend a good chess program
[21:33] <TheSheep> good as in nice looking, or good as in well playing?
[21:34] <TheSheep> !info 3dchess
[21:34] <ubotu> 3dchess (source: 3dchess): 3D chess for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-12 (gutsy), package size 31 kB, installed size 132 kB
[21:34] <misterblonde2517> 2d is fine, id be playing on my not so powerful eee
[21:34] <TheSheep> I think I've seen pychess
[21:34] <TheSheep> but I don't know how well it plays, I think it uses gnuchess under the hood
[21:39] <misterblonde2517> do you know if it has somethign to help me improve, or is it simply something to pay against
[21:42] <cookiemonster077> I am looking for a transparent terminal app. Any suggestions?
[21:42] <siggjen> Terminal
[22:00] <Ven]n> the xfce4-terminal can be transparent
[22:17] <Siegfried> hi
[22:18] <Siegfried> anyone knows if it's possible to install linux from a ntfs windows partition, no-cd, no-floppy
[22:18] <Siegfried> install xubuntu*
[22:18] <Siegfried> if the iso is on the windows partition
[22:23] <TheSheep> !install | Siegfried
[22:23] <ubotu> Siegfried: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:30] <Siegfried> thx TheSheep
[23:05] <slow-motion> n8
[23:13] <GERD_MD> I just DWNL'd the new ALSA files, having some trouble installing
[23:14] <ere4si> do they come with a readme file?
[23:16] <GERD_MD> no
[23:16] <GERD_MD> Wait, yes they do.
[23:16] <GERD_MD> are you going to tell me to do the obvious.