[00:08] Yikes, importing bzrlib.lazy_import imports 70 modules. [01:19] Does bazaar distinguish between author and committer? [01:20] Debolaz: yes [01:24] jelmer: So I could export a patch for someone to commit, and it would automagically credit me as the author even though they committed it? Emphasis on the automagic part here. [01:25] Debolaz: No, you can use --author to specify a different author when committing somebody elses patch [01:25] or you can use "bzr bundle" to create a patch that contains the metadata [01:25] which somebody else can then "bzr pull" [01:25] or "bzr merge" [01:53] Hm, I'm testing push-and-update and I get an error: [01:53] running "ssh user@example.com:2233 bzr update /var/docs/example.com/trunk/" [01:53] bzr: ERROR: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified [01:54] But there's nothing in either the local .bzr.log or the remote .bzr.log [01:55] The command "bzr update /var/docs/example.com/trunk/" works fine, if I run it in my remote shell. Anyone have a clue? [01:56] Oops, maybe I need to install push-and-update on the remote side too [02:07] n/m, there is indeed an error in the .bzr.log [02:13] ah... Windows doesn't have 'ssh' [04:34] jelmer, it shouldn't depend on it [04:35] where are you seing it does? [04:35] bkc was saying he was worried upgrading bzrtools would cause bzr-xmloutput to break [04:36] ah, well, it shouldn't [12:08] Can anyone point me in the direction of docs for the nested-trees functionality? [12:11] there's http://bazaar-vcs.org/NestedTreeSupport [13:51] Bazaar retains history when file is renamed. Is there a way to retain history when a file is split? [13:58] not as yet === doko_ is now known as doko [14:58] don't you hate it when your brane won't quiesce === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [16:18] greets! is there any way to get bzr.dev via bzr:// ? [16:19] wingo: I don't believe so, no. [16:19] Why? [16:20] Odd_Bloke: i was just updating a checkout from two or three months ago, and it was running really slowly [16:23] that's probably because bzr.dev was upgraded to packs and your branch is in knits [16:23] luks: probably so [16:23] i'm doing a fresh checkout and it's running much faster [17:56] New bug: #188684 in bzr-webserve "UI Improvement?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188684 [20:14] How do I find out which version of bzr I'm using? [20:15] bzr --version [20:15] luks: thanks. [22:20] I'm switching a lot of my projects from mercurial to bazaar, but I really miss mercurial queues (gives quilt-like behavior, integrated with mercurial). Are there any plans for a mq-like plugin from bazaar? Or is there another way to get this functionality (besides hundreds of feature-branches) using bazaar that anyone can suggestion? [22:21] there's 'looms' [22:21] but i'm not totally sure what they do or how they work :) [22:21] I saw a mention of that somewhere, but couldn't find a link -- any idea where that is being developed? [22:22] no, come to mention it [22:22] maybe it's not released yet [22:22] lifeless should know [22:23] okay, maybe I'll do a little more searching, and if I don't find anything I'll ask on the mailing list [22:23] good idea [22:23] okay, looks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoMoreSourcePackages was where I saw it mentioned [22:23] JFYI [22:24] I can't tell from that page if it's just an idea, or a real project [22:24] wjl: I believe there is something like quilt coming [22:24] it certainly exists [22:25] Right now, to port from Mercurial w/ MQ, I'm using Bazaar + Quilt, but it's a little clunky. [22:26] yo [22:27] looms sounds like it would be / will be great, I just am not sure where it's development is at [22:28] its basically a concept for now [22:28] we're hoping to have it be more in a few weeks [22:28] but there is other stuff to do first; like network performance [22:31] I'd love to help, once there is a first cut to try -- I have quite a few projects using MQ that would be interesting to try converting at some point [22:32] Anyway, I'll keep using mercurial and bzr+quilt for now, and keep my ears open for loom developments. =) [22:41] cool [22:58] morning [23:15] for something like quilt, i have written several tools in the past which do basically the same thing and come to the conclusion that patches are a horrible storage format [23:15] my latest attempt stores whole pre- and post-images and uses 3 way merge [23:15] which is much easier on the user than having to deal with .rej files [23:15] http://codeville.org/fst/ [23:17] it's got some very basic integration tools for a VCS, but probably not enough [23:18] anyway, whoever is working on loom, feel free to steal ideas, code or pick my brain on the subject [23:18] What you really need to do is embed darcs to handle that stuff ;) [23:19] that's certainly one approach [23:52] I killed a bzr process and it left the repo locked. Can I safely remove the lock directory? [23:54] simony: there's bzr break-lock for that [23:54] thanks [23:55] break-lock seems to hang as well [23:55] at least breaking that didn't leave it locked [23:58] strange [23:59] simony: what sort of fs are you on?