| PriceChild | fj | 00:58 |
|---|---|---|
| PriceChild | finally got a VM working woop | 00:58 |
| jussi01 | congrats PriceChild | 01:33 |
| PriceChild | maybe tomorrow afternoon i'll get a chance to do something with ti | 01:34 |
| jussi01 | lol... you could just stay up as long as me... | 01:34 |
| vorian | PriceChild: you should blog it | 01:34 |
| jussi01 | (im 2 hours ahead of you remember :P) | 01:35 |
| PriceChild | vorian, you've an obsession with people blogging it now? :) | 01:35 |
| PriceChild | jussi01, meh... viewing 2 houses and playing a hockey game tomorrow *morning*. | 01:36 |
| vorian | PriceChild: first you should write a blog telling people you are going to blog about it, then a day later do the real blog | 01:36 |
| PriceChild | This will be the most productive morning in some time and I am not going to oversleep 8-) | 01:36 |
| PriceChild | vorian, and blog the blog? | 01:36 |
| jussi01 | PriceChild: right... | 01:36 |
| vorian | exactly | 01:36 |
| vorian | right before you release the next version of ubuntu | 01:37 |
| PriceChild | all my own work | 01:37 |
| vorian | hehe | 01:37 |
| vorian | yep | 01:37 |
| jussi01 | either of you into embedded stuff at all? | 01:38 |
| vorian | not really | 01:42 |
| jussi01 | well then, with that, Im off to bed | 01:42 |
| jussi01 | [03:41] here... | 01:42 |
| vorian | nighty night | 01:43 |
| Crysis | hola | 01:48 |
| Crysis | hay alguien vivo?? | 01:48 |
| Crysis | porque nunca hay nadie | 01:49 |
| Crysis | ¬_¬ | 01:49 |
| Crysis | donde estan los ops de #ubuntu-es | 01:50 |
| Crysis | o_0 bueno chau | 01:52 |
| LjL | jdt | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | mikem was causing trouble, it apperas | 02:52 |
| Pici | Where? | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | #ubuntu-devel | 02:53 |
| Pici | grr... he should know better. | 02:54 |
| LjL | mikem? know better? | 02:54 |
| LjL | made my day | 02:54 |
| Pici | I've never had a problem with him in the past. | 02:54 |
| LjL | you luck bastarxd | 02:54 |
| LjL | me terrible typist | 02:55 |
| * Hobbsee has seen various | 02:55 | |
| * Hobbsee banfowards | 02:55 | |
| __mikem | hey hobbsee, did you just send me an invitation to this channel? | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | __mikem: yes | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | __mikem: can i suggest that you actually follow channel topics? | 03:01 |
| __mikem | Um, sure. | 03:01 |
| Hobbsee | and that if others are telling you to, that you don't just ignore them, because they're not ops? | 03:01 |
| __mikem | Hobbsee: seveas already repremanded me for that earlier. I was wrong and I admit that. | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | right. good. please don't do it again | 03:03 |
| __mikem | Okay. | 03:04 |
| __mikem | Thanks | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | also, some of them in there probably *are* ops ;) | 03:04 |
| __mikem | Hobbsee, I know, thats why I checked the access list before I made that faux pa ;) | 03:05 |
| ubotu | nemilar called the ops in #ubuntu () | 07:43 |
| nemilar | Hey we need in an op in #ubuntu if anyone is around | 07:46 |
| nemilar | Austin_ (n=chatzill@pool-72-75-153-48.atclnj.east.verizon.net) needs a kicking or a banning or just a plain old a-whooping | 07:48 |
| nemilar | or a letter to abuse@verizon.net which has just been delivered :D nevermind, all | 07:57 |
| jpatrick | LjL: had fun in #u-es last night I see... :-/ | 10:35 |
| jpatrick | guys: co_gokil* in #u - possible nick spammer - keeps joining and quitting | 10:38 |
| * Gary giggles at Seveas | 10:43 | |
| Seveas | !staff | 10:51 |
| ubotu | Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) | 10:51 |
| Seveas | --> incognito (n=ircap8@77.Red-88-11-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #ubuntu | 10:51 |
| Seveas | <incognito> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ | 10:51 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, What's the deal with banning me for stating that the term facist does not necessarily equate to nazis and/or godwin's law | 10:52 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, I've said repeatedly in that talk that offtopic talking and second-guessing the ops is not welcome | 10:52 |
| Seveas | everyone had stopped, then you start it again | 10:52 |
| jpatrick | man, why do they never join #u-es | 10:52 |
| Seveas | I can forward them theree if you want ^_^ | 10:53 |
| Azzmodan | I wasn't second guessing your actions and was just talking about the term facist/godwin's law | 10:53 |
| jpatrick | Seveas: he's spanish by the ip :) | 10:53 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, how about you drop that uncalled for ban you bestowed on me? | 10:56 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, how about not | 10:56 |
| Seveas | a) it wasn't uncalled for | 10:56 |
| Seveas | b) see a | 10:56 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, how was it not uncalled for? | 10:56 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, I've said repeatedly in that talk that offtopic talking and second-guessing the ops is not welcome | 10:56 |
| Seveas | everyone had stopped, then you start it again | 10:56 |
| Seveas | now please stop going in circles | 10:56 |
| nemilar | Are we allowed to question op's decisions in here? (in front of all the ops?) | 10:57 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, I wasn't second guessing you, but you misused the "godwin's law" term, since this is a quite common term and many people in the ubuntu channel are relativly new to internet lingo that wasn't offtopic for me to attempt to clarify either | 10:57 |
| nemilar | Or are we not allowed to inquire about their actions, anywhere | 10:57 |
| Seveas | nemilar, that's one of the reasons this channel was created | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: you're permitted to here | 10:57 |
| Seveas | ok, let's emphasize | 10:58 |
| nemilar | Ah. Yes, it would be offtopic for #u | 10:58 |
| nemilar | :) friendly | 10:58 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, I've said repeatedly in that talk that offtopic talking and second-guessing the ops is not welcome | 10:58 |
| Seveas | emphasis enough? | 10:58 |
| nemilar | Is it standard to kick+ban someone on first offense rather than just kick? I'm just curious, I've only been around for a couple of weeks, I've never seen such drama as tonight | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: depends what the offense is | 10:59 |
| Seveas | nemilar, for calling people fascists: yes | 10:59 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, not only did I only see you mention that once before in this channel before you first stated it, you could also have asked/warned isntead of dropping a ban immediatly | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: (and the likelyhood of the user coming back, just to do it again) | 10:59 |
| nemilar | he called the bot a fascist, not you (not Azzmodan, the other guy) | 10:59 |
| Seveas | for continuing offtopic talk after all have stopped: not always, but common | 10:59 |
| nemilar | Hobbsee: yeah, I definitely get what you're saying | 10:59 |
| Seveas | nemilar, calling the bot a fascist is calling the people who operate the bot a fascist since they write the texts and make it tell them | 11:00 |
| Azzmodan | At least that guy actually called an entity a ban instead of trying to clarify a misused term that I was attempting to do | 11:00 |
| Azzmodan | *an entity a facist | 11:00 |
| nemilar | it's a figure of speech, though, as off-topic as it may be | 11:00 |
| nemilar | it's actually a toned-down figure of speech | 11:00 |
| Seveas | and guess what: DiploCat understood he was out-of-bounds, apologized and was unbanned | 11:00 |
| Seveas | but you had to continue the mess... | 11:01 |
| Azzmodan | So you're saying that I deserve to be banned for trying to clarify on a term that you misused, just because you somehow relate this with me second guessing your actions? | 11:02 |
| nemilar | Seveas: I think you will understand if most of the #ubuntu crowd is instinctually weary of any authority's use of power, justified or not | 11:02 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, I've now told you thrice why I placed the ban | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: this is possibly true. | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: as to why, i've no idea | 11:03 |
| Seveas | I'm not going to waste more time on this | 11:03 |
| nemilar | Hobbsee: I think (just a hypothesis) it's a libertarian thing | 11:03 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, I see you repeat the same untrue line over and over yes. Still I don't see how me saying 1 line would somehow require a ban even if it where a single offtopic line as you claim | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: possibly. that tehy're on a free OS, so can say whatever they like, i expect. | 11:04 |
| nemilar | Hobbsee: well, they/we/etc can't say _whatever_ we like... but I think as a generalization geeks (especially FOSS ones) have a harder time accepting authority, and are more suspicious of it | 11:05 |
| Azzmodan | I have a problem with authority when it is abused by banning me when I attempted to clarify on a misused term that contained no personal attacks or misinformation or second g uessing any operator's action | 11:06 |
| essy | Seveas: did someone respond to you earlier? | 11:06 |
| Seveas | essy, nope, I just pointed out another myminicity spammer | 11:07 |
| Azzmodan | Seveas, repeating the same line is no clarification. You also never issued me a warning and we disagree on wether it was offtopic | 11:07 |
| nemilar | oh, actually, now that there are a bunch of ops here, did anyone see my message about Austin_ (n=chatzill@pool-72-75-153-48.atclnj.east.verizon.net) ? | 11:07 |
| essy | Seveas: I see he's gone now though | 11:08 |
| Seveas | good | 11:08 |
| nemilar | I sent a log about him to abuse@verizon.net since there were no ops around at the time, and I was feeling a bit cranky | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | essy! | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | nemilar: this is true | 11:08 |
| essy | hobbsee!! | 11:08 |
| essy | I'm actually off to sleep - about 3-4 hours too late, but thought I'd check to see what was going on | 11:09 |
| essy | was leaving a message for pleia too | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 11:09 |
| * essy pokes hobbsee into another window | 11:12 | |
| Azzmodan | What'd be the best way to get a petty ban revoked when the op that placed it isn't open to conversation? | 11:12 |
| Seveas | essy, hey, leave a bit of Hobbsee in here, will you :) | 11:12 |
| essy | Seveas: no way - you get too much of a monopoly as it is | 11:13 |
| Seveas | please, just a small bit | 11:13 |
| Seveas | preferably a bit that I can tickle :0 | 11:13 |
| Seveas | ;) | 11:13 |
| Gary | a toe? | 11:13 |
| essy | Seveas: wait a minute - this from the guy that avoids hugs and being tickled himself? hrmph! | 11:14 |
| ompaul | Azzmodan, you don't | 11:15 |
| ompaul | Azzmodan, now where is this ban | 11:15 |
| ompaul | Azzmodan, with which nick | 11:15 |
| * essy hugs ompaul | 11:15 | |
| ompaul | morning essy | 11:16 |
| essy | hiya ompaul | 11:16 |
| * ompaul says that it being 11:15am and no fewd eaten | 11:16 | |
| * jussi01 throws ompaul an apple | 11:17 | |
| ompaul | I have read my Daemon Runyon for this morning, and currently listing to black sabbath | 11:17 |
| ompaul | I have just been informed that I must depart to an eatery for the purpose of a late breakfast | 11:17 |
| ompaul | jussi01, thanks I'll grab that when I get back | 11:18 |
| ompaul | Azzmodan, I asked a question | 11:18 |
| ompaul | if you are not interested in answering it why are you here>? | 11:18 |
| * Hobbsee beats Seveas | 11:20 | |
| * ompaul tickles Hobbsee | 11:20 | |
| * Hobbsee beats ompaul too | 11:20 | |
| Hobbsee | essy: Seveas likes hugs - at least, australian ones | 11:20 |
| ompaul | Hobbsee, there is too much of me to beat | 11:20 |
| Hobbsee | essy: when you get time, ask him about the airport :P | 11:20 |
| ompaul | how to get lost | 11:21 |
| ompaul | yeap anywayz | 11:21 |
| * jussi01 hugs Hobbsee | 11:21 | |
| ompaul | Seveas, as I am about to leave I won't remove Azzmodan perhaps you can entice them to explain what they want | 11:22 |
| * Hobbsee hugs jussi01 back :) | 11:22 | |
| Seveas | ompaul, basic summary: Azzmodan wants to be unbanned from #ubuntu, I don't want to do that | 11:23 |
| Seveas | backlog says why | 11:23 |
| jpatrick | Seveas: this !thing of you and me may carry on for some time ;) | 11:27 |
| Azzmodan | ompaul, I'm banned with the nick "Azzmodan" | 11:27 |
| Seveas | jpatrick, hm? | 11:27 |
| jpatrick | nm | 11:27 |
| Seveas | k | 11:27 |
| Azzmodan | ompaul, Someone called the bot a facist in regards to seveas using the !u comment, I checked the window sometimes later and saw that Seveas banned him with the note to look up godwin's law. I attempted to clarify that godwin's law is about nazis/hitler specifically and not facist at which point Seveas banned me | 11:28 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, you're conveniently leaving out a lot of things there. That's not really appreciated by any ops | 11:29 |
| Azzmodan | Then what am I leaving out? | 11:29 |
| Seveas | the entire discussion in between in which I warned numerous times that the discussion was offtopic and both offtopicness and second-guessing the ops aren't welcome in there | 11:30 |
| Azzmodan | This is how the incident occured in my eyes. I tried to ask you why specifically you banned me but you just kept copy pasting the "second guessing / offtopic" line | 11:30 |
| Seveas | and the fact that the discussion ended after the warnings and before the comments that got you banned | 11:30 |
| Azzmodan | I was just attempting to clarify the term that you used, it's common internet lingo but probably unfamiliar to many of the people in the channel | 11:30 |
| Seveas | sigh... | 11:31 |
| Seveas | that does not change that it's offtopic and that I've warned about that | 11:31 |
| Azzmodan | You could have just issued a warning, or even have asked me to stop it and I would have disagreed but done that | 11:31 |
| Azzmodan | You made it ontopic by using the term | 11:31 |
| Seveas | !ops | 11:31 |
| ubotu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow! | 11:31 |
| ubotu | Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () | 11:31 |
| Seveas | can someone explain this to Azzmodan please? He's not understanding me... | 11:32 |
| Azzmodan | I can understand that you wanted me to drop it, you could have asked or warned. What I do not understand is why you resorted to immediatly banning me | 11:32 |
| Seveas | Azzmodan, I did issue several warnings. And I'm now gonna issue one in here. Stop lying and start reading what I say | 11:33 |
| Seveas | jpatrick, your quit messages have too many quotes :p | 11:34 |
| Azzmodan | You never issued a warning that I saw, or was directed at me. I did saw you ask people to drop the discussion about the person being banned for calling you a facist | 11:34 |
| jpatrick | Seveas: and the TZ still hasn't updated :P | 11:35 |
| Seveas | hehe | 11:35 |
| jpatrick | I'm 7 hours behind.. | 11:36 |
| applewyrm | So how does one deal with having a conflict with an op, and then having this op also ban you from this channel. Should I use that irc-council list email? | 11:52 |
| jussi01 | applewyrm: I would read !guidelines, and follow the instructions there. | 11:59 |
| applewyrm | !guidelines | 11:59 |
| ubotu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 11:59 |
| applewyrm | yeah I tried that, but the wiki says that if the outcome of the meeting wasn't successful that then you should email, but there never really was a meeting just the op that I had a problem with banning me claiming that I was lying | 12:00 |
| applewyrm | I would question the policy that allows the person I had the issue with banning me from this channel but that's for another time | 12:01 |
| applewyrm | Thanks for the answer at least jussi01, I have to go now but I'll ask again later. | 12:03 |
| jussi01 | Azzmodan ?? | 12:11 |
| ubotu | DRebellion called the ops in #ubuntu (ali) | 13:00 |
| ompaul | a;; | 13:09 |
| ompaul | jussi01, most certainly | 13:09 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: yeah, figured... | 13:11 |
| ompaul | yat yet another troll | 13:17 |
| ubotu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 14:31 |
| jrib | ugh, banlist full | 14:32 |
| PriceChild | three victims, one forward? | 14:33 |
| * PriceChild waits to see if it does the rest | 14:33 | |
| PriceChild | monster is on a different nick anyway grr | 14:33 |
| jrib | PriceChild: banlist is full | 14:33 |
| PriceChild | okies | 14:33 |
| PriceChild | i'll clear some of the reaaaaaally old ones | 14:34 |
| jrib | I can't log into ban tracker... keeps saying I'm trying to login anonymously when I click ubotu's link | 14:35 |
| jrib | and as soon as I say that, it works... | 14:36 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, the read-topic bans are removed automatically now | 14:37 |
| Jack_Sparrow | jrib: I got 90% of crimsuns alsa-info script working in upstreamdev log-modules.. but I may have some questions later on a couple things.. | 14:38 |
| Seveas | I'm removing the jan 21st ones to get some room in the banlist | 14:38 |
| PriceChild | k | 14:39 |
| ompaul | jrib, where? | 14:39 |
| jrib | ompaul: was in #ubuntu | 14:39 |
| jrib | Jack_Sparrow: sure | 14:40 |
| * ompaul larts self I was going to do that | 14:40 | |
| ompaul | last night and instead turned off the computer | 14:40 |
| PriceChild | That ought to last us a few days. | 14:43 |
| LjL | agh, *now* banlist full... | 14:44 |
| LjL | in about an hour, the floodbots would have started removing obsolete forwards | 14:44 |
| Seveas | LjL, PriceChild and myself played the floodbot game now, emphasis on flood :) | 14:45 |
| LjL | yeah you unbanned some people who are *currently* in -read-topic though :P | 14:45 |
| Seveas | hehe | 14:46 |
| ompaul | I kind of fell down on what I normally do there | 14:52 |
| ompaul | Seveas, your connection is faster it has to be :) | 15:08 |
| ompaul | I have pmed that last one | 15:10 |
| ubotu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:13 |
| ubotu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 15:13 |
| PriceChild | If they're going to do it, why don't they do it in ctcp? | 15:13 |
| PriceChild | I don't see the advantage in doing it in a normal message? | 15:14 |
| LjL | PriceChild: because they're stupid? | 15:15 |
| ompaul | because staff can catcjh them | 15:15 |
| LjL | staff catches them anyway | 15:15 |
| ompaul | and they want to let people know they are there and they are trolls of a different sort etc | 15:15 |
| ompaul | they are l33t trolls :) | 15:15 |
| PriceChild | jpatrick, was the ban needed? :/ | 15:16 |
| ompaul | and you know what I think of trolls so ehh that has to make for the top 7 ironic statements I am likely to say this year | 15:16 |
| ompaul | jpatrick, they drop the proxy most of the time so you get pointless bans | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | ompaul: heh, just in case :p | 15:17 |
| ompaul | jpatrick, better automation takes care of them | 15:17 |
| LjL | uh? #kubuntu? | 15:18 |
| LjL | that wasn't a proxy | 15:18 |
| ompaul | ahh | 15:18 |
| ompaul | not there | 15:18 |
| jpatrick | :) | 15:18 |
| LjL | the exploiter in #ubuntu then? i don't see a ban for that one | 15:18 |
| ompaul | LjL, so sue me I assumed something ;-) | 15:18 |
| LjL | if nothing shows up when you google it, then it likely is not a proxy :) | 15:19 |
| ompaul | hehe | 15:19 |
| ompaul | TiDiaBLoTiN|Busy> comment ca ce fait que sa soit sorti comme ca ? :s || <ompaul> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. - however you are using a machine based in the US and that channel speaks english - no further comment from our friend | 15:35 |
| LjL | pauvre petit troll | 15:38 |
| jpatrick | what a nick tho | 15:40 |
| ompaul | jpatrick, ? | 16:20 |
| ompaul | I don't grok the nick | 16:21 |
| jpatrick | sarcasm.. | 16:22 |
| ompaul | jpatrick, okay | 16:24 |
| * ompaul fights with "album" -- I am missing something simple and can't see what | 16:24 | |
| === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic | ||
| PriceChild | the unbans have begun | 17:54 |
| * ompaul cought | 18:02 | |
| ompaul | coughs | 18:02 |
| === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic | ||
| ompaul | @pi | 18:34 |
| ompaul | !pi | 18:34 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 18:34 |
| no0tic | ompaul, pi is 3.14159 | 18:35 |
| Seeker` | pi is 4 | 18:35 |
| nalioth | pie are squared | 18:35 |
| Seeker` | mmm...square pie | 18:35 |
| ompaul | Pici, you here? | 18:37 |
| PriceChild | its an offtopic specific factoid | 18:39 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, I saw that ;-) | 19:05 |
| Seveas | fractal wrongness | 19:18 |
| Seveas | The state of being wrong at every conceivable scale of resolution. That is, from a distance, a fractally wrong person's worldview is incorrect; and furthermore, if you zoom in on any small part of that person's worldview, that part is just as wrong as the whole worldview. | 19:18 |
| Seveas | Debating with a person who is fractally wrong leads to infinite regress, as every refutation you make of that person's opinions will lead to a rejoinder, full of half-truths, leaps of logic, and outright lies, that requires just as much refutation to debunk as the first one. It is as impossible to convince a fractally wrong person of anything as it is to walk around the edge of the Mandelbrot set | 19:18 |
| Seveas | in finite time. | 19:18 |
| Seveas | ompaul, ---^ :) | 19:18 |
| Seveas | we've seen some of those | 19:18 |
| ompaul | Seveas, !troll should return that | 19:23 |
| ompaul | hehe | 19:23 |
| ompaul | cos they aim to be wrong | 19:23 |
| * ompaul takes a break | 19:23 | |
| PriceChild | upgraded to hardy... *reboots* | 20:37 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: everything working ok so far with Hardy? | 20:44 |
| PriceChild | new kernel dumps me into busybox | 20:47 |
| PriceChild | nautilus is dead | 20:47 |
| PriceChild | time for a bit of fun :) | 20:49 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, I've had 3 lockups since upgrading earlier this week | 20:49 |
| Seveas | and had to revert back from intel to i810 for video | 20:49 |
| Seveas | and still it's not flaswless | 20:49 |
| PriceChild | my 945 seems to be working fine... | 20:49 |
| Seveas | gnome-settings-daemon is crashy | 20:50 |
| Seveas | killing my compose key and touchpad scroll | 20:50 |
| PriceChild | j.dong suggested forcing the memory allocation to max to increase performance | 20:50 |
| Seveas | !jding | 20:50 |
| ubotu | jdong | 20:50 |
| * jdong smacks Seveas | 20:51 | |
| jdong | and PriceChild | 20:51 |
| jdong | all 3 ping me | 20:51 |
| PriceChild | :) | 20:51 |
| PriceChild | you shouldn't have hilights on stuff like that :P | 20:51 |
| jdong | PriceChild: did you search up the balls bug I told you for the Xorg option? | 20:51 |
| PriceChild | jdong, i'm just trying to get nautilus back on its feet first... i don't think it likes generating thumbnails | 20:52 |
| PriceChild | intel performance seems fine | 20:52 |
| jdong | aww | 20:54 |
| jdong | PriceChild: have you turned on compix yet? | 20:54 |
| PriceChild | yes | 20:55 |
| PriceChild | notcing lag in compiz scrolling etc. | 20:55 |
| jdong | PriceChild: and firefox scrolling isn't horribly slow? | 20:55 |
| PriceChild | whoops | 20:55 |
| PriceChild | s/compiz/firefox/ | 20:55 |
| jdong | PriceChild: so it is slow | 20:55 |
| jdong | PriceChild: good, then I'm not crazy | 20:55 |
| PriceChild | hehe yup | 20:55 |
| PriceChild | yay nautilus will stay open | 20:58 |
| jdong | "reopen when ready" XD | 20:58 |
| PriceChild | jdong, get in #launchpad now | 20:58 |
| jdong | NO! | 20:59 |
| jdong | I'm not gonna make a fool out of myself in there too :) | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | ah having mail-notification installed stopped nautilus upgrading | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | I liked that tray app :( | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | jdong, awww please :( | 20:59 |
| jdong | PriceChild: ROFL | 20:59 |
| PriceChild | jdong, i won't bash it | 20:59 |
| jdong | NO | 20:59 |
| jdong | NEVER | 20:59 |
| jdong | EVER | 21:00 |
| jdong | I already appear insane enough :) | 21:00 |
| PriceChild | ok... now to search for that bug... then after I will try and figure out how to start troubleshooting the not-happenning kernel. | 21:01 |
| PriceChild | jdong, lol just read the name of the bug | 21:01 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, in the busybox, look at dmesg and your logs | 21:04 |
| jdong | PriceChild: gotta love Keybuk | 21:04 |
| PriceChild | jdong, wow didn't realise how poor it was until doing that! | 21:06 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" in the device section | 21:06 |
| jdong | PriceChild: isn't it amazing how much faster it is now? | 21:06 |
| PriceChild | jdong, its ridiculous... and all that is doing is taking more memory? | 21:07 |
| jdong | PriceChild: the other alternative is to set accelmethod back to XAA which produces similar gains but also loses XV entirely | 21:07 |
| jdong | PriceChild: I'm not sure exactly what the downside of the greedy option is | 21:07 |
| jdong | PriceChild: but whatever it is, I'm not feeling it :) | 21:07 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, is that with "intel" or "i810" ? | 21:07 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, intel | 21:07 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, that crashes for me, I'll stick to i810 | 21:08 |
| PriceChild | jdong, maybe we should look it up.... :) | 21:08 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, ah okies | 21:08 |
| jdong | :) | 21:08 |
| jdong | Seveas: intel still crashes for you? | 21:08 |
| Seveas | yeah | 21:08 |
| PriceChild | "this options increases performance one hundred fold but shortens hardware lifetime to 2.3 minutes" | 21:08 |
| jdong | PriceChild: haha | 21:08 |
| jdong | PriceChild: that sounds like viagra | 21:08 |
| Seveas | * PriceChild has quit ("Fire") | 21:08 |
| PriceChild | jdong, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/MigrationHeuristic | 21:08 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, nouveau != intel | 21:09 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, its talking about exa though... i'm pretty sure it still applies | 21:09 |
| Seveas | ah yeah | 21:09 |
| jdong | Seveas: the option probably means similar things though | 21:09 |
| PriceChild | its talking about "older xorg" so doubt its nouveau specific | 21:10 |
| ompaul | jdong, you said "appear insane" hmmmm could you tell us why you used those specific words, scratch that, the specific word I would like explained is "appear" ;-) {actually dude if you knew what I was doing now you would breaking your heart loling so guess what I ain't saying} | 21:11 |
| * ompaul goes to read man page for cp | 21:11 | |
| ompaul | hahaha | 21:11 |
| ompaul | just cos I can | 21:11 |
| * ompaul rofl | 21:11 | |
| * PriceChild reboots to take a look at dmesg | 21:11 | |
| ompaul | PriceChild, dmesg has a way to write to syslog - doh he is gone ;-) | 21:11 |
| jdong | ompaul: haha you have no idea what pricey wanted me to ask the LP folks to do | 21:12 |
| jdong | ompaul: if you knew that, I think you'd question the word "insane" and want a better adjective | 21:12 |
| ompaul | jdong, well I actually was installing apache and some other stuff and could not understand why mysql connects were failing - ehh no mysql-server installed might have something to do with it | 21:14 |
| * ompaul wonders why he has been tired all last week and now knows - he should not touch a keyboard about serious work after 5:30 any day of the week :) | 21:14 | |
| ompaul | now I am happy I will install a second box | 21:14 |
| jdong | ompaul: oh don't worry, I made a far worse slip up, but I think that to see it without pointing it out requires SUCH a twisted mind that it will escape unnoticed" | 21:15 |
| ompaul | jdong, next commit can remove the blemish :) | 21:15 |
| jdong | ompaul: oh no, it's a LP comment :) | 21:15 |
| jdong | let's hope people ignore their bug mail | 21:16 |
| ompaul | jdong, you has said it here it is traceable :) | 21:17 |
| * ompaul goes to do some more install stuff | 21:18 | |
| jdong | ompaul: yes, but nobody with a twisted mind reads this channel :D | 21:18 |
| ompaul | twisted as in python? ;-) | 21:18 |
| jdong | :) | 21:18 |
| jdong | twisted as in, me. | 21:18 |
| PriceChild | nothing in dmesg that i can see | 21:21 |
| PriceChild | alt+f1'ing goes to "PANIC: Circular dependencies detected. exiting" :P | 21:21 |
| Seveas | sigh, that was keyboard/mouse not responding | 21:27 |
| Seveas | go hardy! | 21:27 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, best every PANIC was -- Kernel panic - returning to cosmic dust | 21:36 |
| ompaul | it was during a failed install | 21:36 |
| PriceChild | Seveas, nothing in dmesg that i can see. alt+f1'ing gives "PANIC: Circular dependencies detected. Exiting." | 21:36 |
| PriceChild | ompaul, hehe | 21:36 |
| PriceChild | I'll think about it tomorrow anyhow. | 21:39 |
| LjL | hi Omar-C | 22:52 |
| Omar-C | ok I ran apt-get install xserver-xorg and it didn't download anything cause Im not connected | 22:52 |
| Omar-C | hi | 22:52 |
| LjL | so you lock your computer every time you aren't using it? | 22:52 |
| ompaul | you are not in #ubuntu | 22:52 |
| ompaul | Omar-C, you were invited here | 22:53 |
| Omar-C | not my windows one, sorry that was my brother, Im switching between both computers to try and figure out how to fix this problem | 22:53 |
| LjL | Omar-C: ah, so you know what happened | 22:53 |
| LjL | look, we get a *lot* of spam in the channel | 22:53 |
| LjL | and every time we do, people claim it was "their brother" | 22:54 |
| LjL | i'm willing to believe it actually was your brother | 22:54 |
| LjL | but ensure it won't happen again | 22:54 |
| LjL | because you won't be believed next time, you understand | 22:54 |
| LjL | !etiquette > Omar-C (Omar-C, see the private message from Ubotu) | 22:54 |
| Omar-C | ok sorry, Im just switching between both computers real quick | 22:55 |
| ompaul | Omar-C, see we don't really think that people should tell us things and expect us to be really gullible - cos mostly we are not all that young | 22:55 |
| Omar-C | anyways back to my problem, I've been working on this problem all day and I still can't figure out what to do, so any help is highly appriciated | 22:55 |
| LjL | Omar-C: your brother spammed the channel with several lines of text, and it would have been many more if an op hadn't stopped him quickly | 22:55 |
| LjL | Omar-C, ask about your problem in #ubuntu, this is #ubuntu-ops | 22:56 |
| ompaul | you can't get into ops atm | 22:56 |
| ompaul | you can only get here | 22:56 |
| LjL | opposite actually | 22:56 |
| ompaul | you can't get into #ubuntu atm | 22:56 |
| ompaul | should have been what I typed but there ya go | 22:56 |
| LjL | Omar-C: now that's a no-no | 22:58 |
| LjL | if we tell you that you currently "can't join", it doesn't mean that you can put on another nickname and join | 22:59 |
| LjL | it means that we want some feedback from you before letting you join | 22:59 |
| ompaul | Omar-C, just a minor thing for you think about | 22:59 |
| ompaul | Omar-C, now please conversation | 22:59 |
| ompaul | that was called ban avoidance | 23:00 |
| ompaul | hmm | 23:00 |
| PriceChild | is this nick just about to timeout perhaps? | 23:01 |
| LjL | PriceChild: you win. | 23:01 |
| ompaul | welcome | 23:02 |
| PriceChild | looks so | 23:02 |
| ompaul | you didn't want to do tthat | 23:02 |
| LjL | PriceChild: ping says so. | 23:02 |
| ompaul | that is called ban avoidance | 23:02 |
| ompaul | and that can get you removed from the server | 23:02 |
| LjL | well, i think it's called not being registered to the network in this case | 23:02 |
| ompaul | Ubuntu_Omar, are you reading this? | 23:02 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | yea | 23:03 |
| PriceChild | LjL, this one doesn't respond anyway. | 23:03 |
| ompaul | Ubuntu_Omar, now don't go running off to change your nick again please we want a word | 23:03 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | I had to change my name cause someone else had it in Ubuntu | 23:03 |
| ompaul | (a) you were invited | 23:03 |
| ompaul | (B) don't take us for fools | 23:03 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: it was yourself | 23:03 |
| ompaul | I am a an IT professional and have been for years I have been in paid employment for over 25 years | 23:04 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | Why are you guys treating me like this? Im here just to fix my problem with my new computer thats all | 23:04 |
| ompaul | so much like LjL I don't like being told | 23:04 |
| ompaul | little storys about "my brother" or | 23:04 |
| ompaul | someone else had my nick | 23:04 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: but meanwhile, someone at your computer spammed our channel pretty badly. | 23:04 |
| LjL | so excuse us if we want to clear this up. | 23:05 |
| ompaul | ohh and that | 23:05 |
| PriceChild | No-one can steal your nick while you use it, without us knowing. Each user has the same nick in every channel. You can't steal a nick in just one channel. | 23:05 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | ok I tried to join #Ubuntu then it says Omar-C already in use | 23:06 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | so I had to change ti | 23:06 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | it* | 23:06 |
| ompaul | the nick is registered | 23:06 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: it was your own connection. | 23:06 |
| ompaul | * [Omar-C] (n=wolf_sca@bas5-hamilton14-1177898952.dsl.bell.ca): Omar Nassif | 23:06 |
| ompaul | * [Omar-C] #ubuntu-ops #gentoo #suse | 23:06 |
| ompaul | looksk like you to me | 23:06 |
| ompaul | what do you think? | 23:07 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | Ok look, Im new to mIRC so I don't really know how to get around here | 23:07 |
| ompaul | so stop messing about | 23:07 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | Im not I just want to fix my Ubuntu problem, and you guys are making a huge deal out of something I already forgot | 23:07 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | now can we forget about that? | 23:08 |
| LjL | i'll remind you then | 23:08 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | ok now how come I can't join #Ubuntu? | 23:08 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | it says that the address is banned | 23:08 |
| ompaul | correct | 23:08 |
| ompaul | you were asked to join here | 23:08 |
| ompaul | you did not | 23:09 |
| ompaul | we ban forwarded you to here | 23:09 |
| LjL | [23:44:16] <Omar-C> im omar-cp little brother [23:44:21] <Omar-C> not me [23:44:31] <Omar-C> i don't even know how to programs lolz [23:44:34] <Pelo> WGGMk, did you check the theming tutorials ? [23:44:35] <Omar-C> faggs [23:44:42] <Omar-C> s [23:44:42] <Omar-C> s [23:44:43] <Omar-C> s [23:44:44] <Omar-C> s [23:44:45] <Omar-C> s [23:44:45] <Omar-C> s [23:44:46] <Omar-C> s [23:44:48] <Omar-C> s [23:44:49] <Omar-C> s | 23:09 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: is it clear enough without further explanation that the above is utterly, completely and totally unacceptable on an IRC support channel? | 23:09 |
| ompaul | Omar-C, ever one of those > indicates a new line | 23:09 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | WHAT I honestly did not see that much text | 23:09 |
| ompaul | well your nick on your computer delivered it | 23:10 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | ok Im sorry guys | 23:10 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | yes that was my brother I had to leave the room to get to my other computer | 23:10 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: so you understand that if this even happens again, and you then tell us that it was your brother, next time we will *not* believe that it was your brother, and you will stay banned? this is to say - do lock your computer when it's connected to IRC | 23:10 |
| LjL | !etiquette > Ubuntu_Omar (Ubuntu_Omar, see the private message from Ubotu) | 23:11 |
| ompaul | cos we can't afford the overhead of spammers | 23:11 |
| Seveas | s/when it's connected to IRC/whenever you leave it/ | 23:11 |
| ompaul | s/can't/won't | 23:11 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | ok can I go into Ubuntu now? | 23:12 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | anyways I have to go now | 23:12 |
| LjL | Ubuntu_Omar: yes. i'm assuming from now on that you are aware of the channel rules, which i made Ubotu send you | 23:12 |
| ompaul | password protect your account | 23:12 |
| Ubuntu_Omar | ok thanks | 23:13 |
| LjL | [00:13:34] <Pelo> howlingmadhowie, technicaly ubuntu can use the debian repos so , add those to the official ubuntu ones | 23:13 |
| LjL | wth | 23:14 |
| Seeker` | ewww | 23:14 |
| no0tic | omg | 23:14 |
| ompaul | nooo | 23:14 |
| ompaul | that no nice | 23:14 |
| Seeker` | "fractally wrong"? | 23:14 |
| Seveas | iewie | 23:15 |
| Seveas | kill that pelo | 23:15 |
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