[00:00] <atomicpotato> it could be the search indexing service
[00:00] <rkvirani> wha!
[00:00] <rkvirani> turn it offf!
[00:00] <rkvirani> where can I turn it off
[00:00] <atomicpotato> well, first, take a look at your task list and see what's using it
[00:01] <atomicpotato> no need to be hasty
[00:01] <rkvirani> ps reports 119 proccesses
[00:01] <rkvirani> this isnt windows man
[00:02] <atomicpotato> running KDE? hit ctrl + esc
[00:03] <rkvirani> no search results returned for search
[00:03] <rkvirani> index
[00:03] <rkvirani> or service
[00:03] <rkvirani> whats the proc name
[00:04] <rkvirani> atomicpotato: whats the proccess naame
[00:05] <sensae> Mreh. I got lazy and fixed my sound by way of an audio splitter XD
[00:05] <atomicpotato> strigi, but why not look for what's actually using CPU cycles? or do you not have a GUI?
[00:07] <tyson_> how do i reinstall drivers for my wireless network adapter?
[00:07] <rkvirani> atomicpotato: its slow, it is something probably kernel related
[00:07] <rkvirani> or powermanagement related
[00:08] <atomicpotato> hmm
[00:08] <atomicpotato> rkvirani, try using top, it's a console version of taskmanager/whatever
[00:08] <rkvirani> hrm
[00:08] <acee1234> can anyone point me to a good tutorial for setting up wine?
[00:08] <tzanger> hmm is there any magic in getting a tun or tap interface working under kubuntu 7.10?  I've loaded hte module but openvpn just isn't very happy
[00:08] <rkvirani> I wonder if its the wifi drivers
[00:08] <rkvirani> that are slow
[00:09] <rkvirani> the slowness seeems to be with my network connection only
[00:09] <atomicpotato> acee1234, there's not much to it.. apt-get install wine
[00:09] <acee1234> i did that
[00:09] <acee1234> but it cant run anything
[00:10] <atomicpotato> explain
[00:10] <tzanger> hahaha
[00:10] <atomicpotato> WINE in general can't run anything
[00:10] <tzanger> well I guess it would help if I were using sudo :-)
[00:10]  * tekteen thinks that we have no life. Seeing as the Super Bowl is on
[00:10] <rkvirani> the fwcutter crap or whatever :D
[00:10] <acee1234> atomicpotato: sec im gonna try photoshop and copy the error
[00:10] <rkvirani> stupid broadcomm
[00:10] <rkvirani> they suck!
[00:10] <atomicpotato> oh... photoshop... hehe
[00:11] <atomicpotato> you want the latest WINE
[00:11] <atomicpotato> follow the instructions at winehq.org
[00:14] <sensae> Anyone terribly familiar with VMWare?
[00:14] <jhutchins> tzanger: don't even try to use the kde vpn manager, you've gotta go old school and use pptp-command and some manual hacking.
[00:14] <doobeh> sensae: I use workstation daily
[00:14] <doobeh> (running it in windows though)
[00:14] <mixed> anyone know what utility I can use to configue wireless?
[00:15] <tzanger> jhutchins: oh I wasn't using the vpn manager at all
[00:15] <tzanger> invoking openvpn on the commandline
[00:15] <stunatra> mixed, knetwork manager works fine.
[00:15] <jhutchins> tzanger: The other thing I've found is that I often have to try to connect several times before it works.
[00:15] <tzanger> jhutchins: hmm it is connecting fine
[00:15] <adam> I'm trying to install the latest NVidia driver, but it says I need to exit my X session.  How can I do this?  I tried to kill kwin and Xorg, but to no avail...
[00:16] <tzanger> oh well
[00:16] <tzanger> I'm trying to get a routed network across this
[00:16] <mixed> stunatra, thanks
[00:17] <jhutchins> adam: You need to go to a console (ctrl-alt-F1 for instance), then stop dm.
[00:17] <stunatra> yw
[00:17] <jhutchins> adam: /etc/init.d/dm stop
[00:17] <jhutchins> adam: sudo of course
[00:17] <adam> jhutchins: Okay, I'll do that, thanks :)
[00:17] <jhutchins> adam: Pretty sure it's just dm, could possiblly be kdm instead.
[00:17] <tzanger> I can add the route, I can ping the other side of the tunnel, but i can't get past it.  weird.
[00:18] <jhutchins> tzanger: possibly the problem is the settings on the far end.
[00:19] <mixed> stunata, is there another utility besides knetwork manager?  for some reason knetworkmanager isn't working in my disto
[00:20] <sensae> I'm rather jealous of VMWare Fusion, it's their Mac fork. Apparently you can use bootcamp to dualboot OSX and Windows, and then inside OSX, boot your Windows partition as a VM with DirectX support :/
[00:20] <excitatory> so i noticed the XGL implementation in ubuntu defaults to the pc101 style keyboard mapping..I'm attempting to manually set it to pc105 with this command: setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout us    >>> However, I get this error: Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[00:20] <doobeh> yeah, installed fusion on my mates macbook pro-- pretty nice integration
[00:21] <excitatory> I'm searching around for solutions, but nothing seems to work.. it's like it's missing a component.
[00:21] <doobeh> I'm sure the dx support will bleed over to the other vm varients sooner or later
[00:21] <sensae> I would love to be able to open my Windows partition as a VM, even without DX support
[00:22] <doobeh> it's a bit more tricky if your wanting to use your current windows system (rather then creating the vm machine from scratch)
[00:23] <doobeh> get a backup of your computer and restore it into a vm machine
[00:23] <sensae> If you create a VM from scratch, can you get that effect? Being able to open a VM of Windows, or boot into it natively?
[00:23] <doobeh> you can open it for sure-- boot into it natively I'm not sure about
[00:24] <doobeh> the higher end vm products allow something like that
[00:24] <doobeh> gsx server or something?
[00:24] <doobeh> <-- terrible memory.
[00:24] <doobeh> yeah, but you can run windows in a vm within linux no problem
[00:25] <doobeh> The way I've got my machine set up at work is have my main os running (windows in my work case)
[00:25] <doobeh> and then just dedicate my second monitor to showing the kubuntu vm machine when I've got it up
[00:25] <doobeh> with vmware tools, the mouse transfers fine between both machines and you can drag-drop files to and from easily
[00:27] <tyson__> helo, can someone please help me with my wifi network adaptor?
[00:28] <tekteen> tyson__: have you tried the restricted drivers manager?
[00:28] <tekteen> tyson__: what type is it?
[00:30] <tyson__> .
[00:31] <tyson__> tekteen: :no. intel pro
[00:32] <dawiz> can anyone tell me what this means?
[00:32] <dawiz> The user `scanlogd' already exists as a system user. Exiting.
[00:32] <dawiz> Starting scanlogd: chroot: No such file or directory
[00:32] <dawiz> invoke-rc.d: initscript scanlogd, action "start" failed.
[00:32] <dawiz> dpkg: error processing scanlogd (--configure):
[00:32] <dawiz>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:32] <dawiz> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:32] <dawiz>  scanlogd
[00:32] <dawiz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:32] <tyson__> i opened that restricted drivers manager, and it told me that the wifi card and nvidia card are both ok and in use
[00:32] <dawiz> how to fix?
[00:33] <tekteen> tyson__: try sudo iwlist scanning in the konsole
[00:33] <jireh> hola
[00:33] <jireh> alguien en espa├▒ol?
[00:33] <tekteen> !es
[00:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[00:34] <tyson__> it returned a list of nearby access points
[00:34] <tekteen> good
[00:34] <dawiz> can anyone help
[00:34] <dawiz> ?
[00:34] <tekteen> so what is the problem?
[00:34] <dawiz> The user `scanlogd' already exists as a system user. Exiting.
[00:34] <dawiz> Starting scanlogd: chroot: No such file or directory
[00:34] <dawiz> invoke-rc.d: initscript scanlogd, action "start" failed.
[00:34] <dawiz> dpkg: error processing scanlogd (--configure):
[00:34] <dawiz>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:34] <dawiz> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:34] <dawiz>  scanlogd
[00:34] <dawiz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:34] <tekteen> !pastebin | dawiz
[00:35] <ubotu> dawiz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:35] <tyson__> i used to be able to start kubuntu and then the wallet will ask me for a password, which i would give, and viola on line.
[00:35] <dawiz> ok will do next time
[00:35] <tekteen> what is the problem?
[00:35] <tekteen> is knetworkmanager started?
[00:35] <kadam> hello... Someone just helped me terminate KDM using /etc/init.d/kdm stop?  It worked, I have a follow up question though...
[00:36] <tyson__> because im an imaptient and lazy bastard, i told knetworkmanager to not use the wallet anymore (in the hope that it would stop prompting me 4 the password all the time) and well, when i rebooted next time, it didnt work
[00:36] <tekteen> tyson__: ok
[00:36] <dawiz> keeps returning this error
[00:36] <tyson__> i have since re-enabled teh wallet, but that wont start, and the icon in the try for the network manager says manual configuration
[00:36] <tekteen> tyson__: ok
[00:36] <tekteen> I know the problem
[00:36] <tyson__> ok
[00:37] <tekteen> Please pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[00:39] <acee1234> whenever i try to start photoshop with the newest wine i get  "Unable to Continue because of a Hardware or System Error." any ideas?
[00:39] <tyson__> http://pastebin.com/d53052161
[00:39] <dawiz> not real familiar with scanlogd
[00:39] <jireh> como abro #kubuntu-es?? please
[00:39] <dawiz> ive read the man
[00:40] <jireh> #kubuntu-es
[00:40] <tyson__> where eth1 is the wifi adaptor, and eth0 is the wired one, which i am using now
[00:40] <kadam> I just isntalled a new NVidia driver, and to do so I had to type "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" since it wouldn't start the install with an X server running.  Now my computer boots into CLI, and typing "/etc/init.d/kwin start" says it's already started.  Typing "kwin" says "cannot connect to X server".  Pressing <ctrl><alt><F7> yields a blank console screen.  Does anyone know what's happening or how to fix it?
[00:41] <tekteen> tyson__: make the changes at http://pastebin.com/m502d7258
[00:42] <tekteen> jireh: hola
[00:42] <tekteen> jireh: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[00:42] <dawiz> can anyone help?
[00:42] <jireh> gracias tekteen
[00:43] <tzanger> ahh, linux-image is better at suspending than linux-image-rt
[00:43] <tzanger> 2.6.22-4 or -14 or whatever it is for both
[00:43] <tyson__> tek, ok did that. reboot?
[00:43] <tzanger> I should stop trying to early optimize, it bites me in the ass each and every time i do it
[00:44] <tekteen> tyson__: yes
[00:44] <tyson__> brb
[00:44] <jireh> #kubuntu-es
[00:46] <killbox> My Amarok is not puting out any sound when it plays tracks. please help!
[00:46] <tekteen> jireh: Por qu├© estas aqu├¼
[00:46] <mndo> hi there!
[00:46] <killbox> hi
[00:47] <mndo> just made a clean install of hardy and can't install kde4..
[00:47] <kadam> Please help me, I need to write an essay tonight! :O  My computer boots into runlevel 3, and I can't start KDE.
[00:47] <mndo> depency problems.. any ideas?
[00:47] <mndo> s/depency/dependecy/
[00:47] <killbox> lol
[00:48] <mndo> kadam: sudo init 5
[00:48] <tyson_> tek, did i ever tell you that you are 'tha man' ?
[00:48] <dawiz> i guess my question is too hard for you guys
[00:48] <killbox> Can you help me with my Amarok?
[00:48] <tekteen> tyson_: nope
[00:49] <tekteen> tyson_: lol
[00:49] <excitatory> mndo: well, it's in alpha right now, and thus not suitable to use outside of devel and testing..so no one here is really going to lend an ear to your problems..they're expected.
[00:49] <tekteen> !ask|killbox
[00:49] <ubotu> killbox: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:49] <Ralesk> mndo: kadam's X doesn't start after he installed a new nvidia driver
[00:49] <mndo> kadam: if that don't work, probaby your X is misconfigured..
[00:49] <tyson_> well, tekteen you da man!!!
[00:49] <tyson_> thanks mate
[00:49] <tyson_> right as rain now
[00:49] <tekteen> np
[00:50] <Ralesk> kadam: I never had an nvidia myself, so I don't know anything about it precisely... but if the free nv driver worked and you really need a GUI -- by all means sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the nv driver again.
[00:51] <Ralesk> once you're done with your essay, you'll have time to mess with the proprietary driver :)
[00:51] <tyson_> i think i understand what happened also. somehwere along the line i did something that added the line into interfaces, and so knetmanager took that as my manual configuration. with that line removed, knetman configures it automagically, yes?
[00:51] <mndo> excitatory: i don't it's still in alpha state, but a few days ago was working, maybe someone had the same problem.. i'll ask on devel.. thnx anyway..
[00:51] <sensae> o.o
[00:51] <kadam> mndo: THank you, but init 5 didn't work... :)
[00:51] <tekteen> tyson_: you prob did it through knetmanager
[00:51] <tekteen> tyson_: I have had issues with it before
[00:52] <Ralesk> excitatory: kde 4.0 has been released (which of course doesn't mean it's production quality, but heh :P)
[00:52] <kadam> Ralesk: Hehe, I can always use vi... Or this computer, but the screen's so tiny I'd be blind by the time I finished...
[00:52] <mndo> kadam: make a makup of our current xorg.conf and remove it from /etc/X11
[00:52] <mndo> then try to startx again..
[00:52] <Ralesk> s/makup/backup/ :)
[00:52] <Ralesk> but yeah, good suggestion!
[00:53] <tzanger> hmm is there any way to tell or query the touchpad device to see if it supports multifinger touches?
[00:53] <draik> How do I unrar parts? filename.part01.rar .... filename.part53.rar
[00:53] <tekteen> draik: open them in ark
[00:54] <mndo> ralesk: but now is desperate to get a X working right? the fastest way is to delete the file instead of trying to figure out what went wrong with the nvidia install..
[00:54] <Ralesk> yeah, that's why I said it's a good suggestion :)
[00:55] <mndo> oh sorry, didn't see it :)
[00:55] <killbox> need help. My Amarok played audio tracks about a day ago, Then it stoped playing audio tracks, so I reinstalled it. Thats when the problem started.
[00:56] <Ralesk> killbox: it's amarok for kde3?
[00:56] <killbox> I don't know. I am new at KuBuntu.
[00:57] <tekteen> amarok in kde3 is amarok
[00:57] <tekteen> amarok 2 is kde4
[00:57] <killbox> Ok. There you have it
[00:57] <Ralesk> then it's likely so :)  could you check whether kaffeine makes any sound?
[00:57] <draik> tekteen: I did. It seems that it wants a password, however, I am not prompted for one
[00:58] <tekteen> draik: ok
[00:58] <killbox> Kaffeine doesn't
[00:58] <draik> tekteen: Any idea as to how/where I would enter a password?
[00:58] <tekteen> draik: I have no idea
[00:58] <tekteen> never done it
[00:58] <Ralesk> I see.  in Amarok, tell me what you've set in the Engine settings
[00:58] <draik> Ok. Thanks.
[00:58] <bandid> #join kubuntu-it
[00:59] <Ralesk> killbox: the output plugin part of that page
[00:59] <killbox> Ok
[00:59] <redmoon> ubuntu-it?
[01:00] <killbox> Where do I download it? Adept?
[01:00] <intelikey> /join #kubuntu-it    <<<< redmoon
[01:00] <Ralesk> killbox: umm, if you have amarok installed, you don't need to download anything o.o
[01:00] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu-it    <<<< redmoon
[01:00] <sensae> +
[01:00] <killbox> oh! srry
[01:00] <redmoon> tanks
[01:00] <redmoon> thanks
[01:01] <kadam> mndo: That seems to work, deleting xorg.conf...  THanks!
[01:01] <Ralesk> killbox: so open amarok, open its settings, go to the Engine page and tell me what device you have set as output
[01:01] <tekteen> intelikey: how did you write /join first?
[01:01] <killbox> The output plugin page? Is that accesible through Amarok?
[01:01] <kadam> I still need to enable openGL apparently... Hmmmm
[01:01] <intelikey> /say blah
[01:01] <tekteen> intelikey: is there a way to escape a command
[01:01] <tekteen> ok
[01:02] <tekteen> thanks
[01:02] <intelikey> :)
[01:02] <tekteen> /join
[01:02] <Ralesk> tekteen: I think ctrl-enter lets you do it, too, but maybe that's just my mIRC reflexes kicking in
[01:02] <tekteen> kool
[01:02] <Ralesk> /blah
[01:02] <tekteen> ty
[01:02] <Ralesk> oh yah, it works here in Konversation too :D
[01:03] <Ralesk> killbox: Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engine.
[01:03] <killbox> Thx
[01:07] <mndo> kadam: when u delete the xorg.conf X uses the vesa driver.. now u can run nvidia-xconfig to create a new xorg.conf
[01:11] <Ralesk> mndo: doesn't X try to autodetect stuff when there's no xorg.conf?
[01:12] <dawiz> does anyone know about scanlogd
[01:13] <dawiz> dpkg keeps giving me errors
[01:13] <dawiz> apt-get too
[01:13] <intelikey> Ralesk the ctrl+enter doesn't work for all clients/envirionments   just so you'll know.
[01:13] <xenobius> ... my system is somehow using 1.6 gb of RAM... what on earth uses that much in kubuntu ?
[01:13] <intelikey> dpkg --conrigure -a ;apt-get remove -f
[01:14] <mndo> ralesk: i think it is supposed to, but in my experience it always fall back to vesa..
[01:14] <intelikey> xenobius nothing.  it's not being used.  it's just allocated
[01:14] <xenobius> oh...
[01:14] <xenobius> thats... weird
[01:14] <xenobius> i didn't know linux behaved that way... or do you mean i have a mem leak ?
[01:14] <intelikey> !ram
[01:14] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[01:14] <intelikey> !mem
[01:15] <sub[t]rnl> xenobiusŌ×£ look at 	top	 and 	free -m	 to get an idea if the ram is really being used, or just buffered
[01:15] <xenobius> kk
[01:15] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl you need to point out how to read the output of gree too
[01:15] <intelikey> free even
[01:16] <Ralesk> intelikey: yes, I know :)
[01:16] <sub[t]rnl> xenobiusŌ×£ this being the important line in the command 	-/+ buffers/cache:	
[01:16] <dawiz> returns more errors
[01:16] <sub[t]rnl> xenobiusŌ×£ read up on intelikelys links he gave you for an explanation
[01:17] <xenobius> heh actually says its using 1586... wow
[01:17] <xenobius> i will sub ty :)
[01:18] <Ralesk> intelikey: if you're so quick on pointing out errors and omissions... you could amend people's suggestions instead --- and for example stop ircing as root ;)
[01:19] <intelikey> Ralesk i'll stop as soon as i start.
[01:19] <intelikey> ;/
[01:19] <mixed> anyone knows of a utility to configure wireless besides  knetworkmanager?
[01:19] <Ralesk> iwconfig
[01:19] <biovore> iwconfig in a terminal
[01:19] <sub[t]rnl> RaleskŌ×£ heh, I respect intelikey, and If I was bothered by anything he says I would let him know.  It just so happens that he knows his stuff
[01:20] <Ralesk> sub[t]rnl: I noticed that he does :3
[01:20] <xenobius> wow its mostly cached memory.... pardon my ignorance, but aren't caches file storage in Ram ?
[01:21] <dawiz> why in the world id this happening since i upgraded to gutsy??????????????????
[01:21] <dawiz> wth
[01:21] <dawiz> join #ubuntu
[01:21] <killbox> Ralesk:I set me engine settings in Amarok, But still no sound. output plugins are set to Auto detect. I have tried all the output plugins choices.
[01:21] <xenobius> i dunno my system is havingf difficulty running application types that even windows ran fine on the same machine...
[01:23] <Ralesk> killbox: alright.  I hoped that switching to something else would help.  hmm...
[01:24] <Ralesk> killbox: does kde even make any noises on startup or when some error happens, etc?
[01:24] <killbox> Hmm. no.
[01:25] <intelikey> !sound | killbox the trouble shooting guide here "might" help.   sometimes it does anyway
[01:25] <ubotu> killbox the trouble shooting guide here "might" help.   sometimes it does anyway: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:25] <killbox> Thx
[01:26] <intelikey> welcome
[01:29] <sputnick> greenklaptopdaemon?hi there
[01:29] <sputnick> hi there. anyone knows what is the name of the battery monitoring icon in systray ( icon is green & yellow ) ? this is installed by default on Kubuntu gutsy+laptop
[01:30] <Ralesk> night all
[01:30] <sub[t]rnl> guidance-power-manager
[01:32] <intelikey> sputnick i don't know.   but you might stumble onto it with    find /usr/share/icons/ -iname '*state*'      maybe...
[01:32] <xenobius> !speed
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <xenobius> !performance
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about performance - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <xenobius> hmm oh well
[01:32] <intelikey> xenobius what specificly are you looking for ?
[01:33] <intelikey> cpu info ?   benchmarks ?    gfx frames ?
[01:33] <intelikey> disk i/o ?
[01:33] <mixed> Ralesk, is there a wireless utility with a gui other than knetworkmanager?
[01:33] <intelikey> network through put ?
[01:34] <intelikey> checking to see if an infonode sujestion had been added to the bot ?
[01:35] <tekteen> mixed: why?
[01:35] <intelikey> * @ xenobius ^
[01:35] <tekteen> what is bad about knetworkmanager?
[01:36] <shadofall> can anyone provide me with some insight why the gui install mode wouldnt work for me. and now when i try to start kubuntu normaly i get no login/gui interface.
[01:36] <xenobius> what where why how who intelikey ?
[01:36] <sub[t]rnl> !info wifi-radar | mixed
[01:36] <ubotu> mixed: wifi-radar (source: wifi-radar): graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[01:36] <ignoramus> hi all.  Question: how do i disable touchpad while typing? Ksynaptics has that option, but when ticked, it doesn't work :(
[01:36] <SlimeyPete> shadofall: probably a graphics driver issue.
[01:36] <xenobius> oh sorry i was gone
[01:37] <intelikey> shadofall ummm maybe the restricted module is not correct for your chipset ?
[01:37] <xenobius> i was wondering my 3.2 mhz pentium 4 prescott machine seems somewhat... bogged, on kubuntu
[01:37] <shadofall> hmm ok
[01:37] <intelikey> xenobius O.O
[01:37] <mixed> sub[t]rnl, thanks!  i'll install it right now, see if it works, knetworkmanager doesn't work for some reason
[01:38] <SlimeyPete> xenobius: run "top" to see if anything's eating your processor, and run "sudo hdparm /dev/hda" (where hda is your hard-disk, which might be hda or hdb, hdc etc) to see if DMA is turned on.
[01:38] <ignoramus> mixed: you can also check wicd - very good
[01:38] <intelikey> xenobius i run a p1mmx 100mhz and kde....   and your 3200mhz is bogged ?    </blinks>
[01:38] <Dr_willis> You are refering to kde3 - not kde4 right?
[01:39] <SlimeyPete> xenobius: it's also worth checking what graphics driver Kubuntu is using, the VESA driver is slow.
[01:39] <intelikey> xenobius ummm  "top" and see what is using the most cpu
[01:39] <xenobius> i'm using the ati open
[01:39] <xenobius> but thats been a cause problems in its own right
[01:39] <xenobius> i just ordered an nvidia
[01:39] <Dr_willis> ATI and problem.. :) is  about as true a statement  as can ever be said. :)
[01:40] <intelikey> ok the ati is likely the reason there.
[01:40] <intelikey> dito doc
[01:40] <xenobius> even for regular graphics ?
[01:40] <xenobius> without 3d accell ?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> but they promise to get better!
[01:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:40] <ignoramus> have any of you been able to disable synaptics touchpad while typing? its driving me nuts!
[01:40] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  my laptop has a button to do that.  - Also - I belive theres a utlity tht can disable it (it adds a system tray icon to controll it)
[01:40] <Dr_willis> !find synaptics
[01:40] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev, libsynaptics0 (and 2 others)
[01:41] <intelikey> xenobius only way i can get my lappy to work right is to remove linux-restricted*   and use vesa vidio
[01:41] <xenobius> "i am your son your dad, your fag, i am your fad... here is my real head!"
[01:41] <xenobius> .. wow
[01:41] <xenobius> nvidia is the light at the end of the tunnel right ?
[01:41] <ignoramus> dr_willis: i have ksynaptics installed, which offers that option, but when ticked, it does not function (I have SMH enabled)
[01:41] <xenobius> i bought a somewhat outdated card, 5200 fx
[01:41] <xenobius> so it should be fairly bugless right ?
[01:42] <intelikey> xenobius well better than ati.
[01:42] <xenobius> what chipset.. doesn't have problems ?
[01:42] <intelikey> intel
[01:42] <intelikey> but that's not 100% either
[01:42] <xenobius> heh shows how much i read up.. i didn't know intel made 3d acceleration cards
[01:43] <shadofall> thanks for the tips gona try and update the driver.
[01:43] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  no idea then.
[01:43] <intelikey> 3d
[01:43] <sputnick> !laptop
[01:43] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:43] <Dr_willis> If i was to get a  low end nvidia card. :) id be sure to get a fanless one. heh..
[01:43] <sputnick> !acpi
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <mixed> ignoramus, "wicd" cant be found by synaptic
[01:44] <Dr_willis> My older nvidia card has a fan going out. its sooo noisy.
[01:44] <xenobius> "she can't see nothing, she can't see nothing at all.... DILATE... DILATE"
[01:44] <xenobius> my comp is already noisy i built it and it has 6 fans plus two on the cooling tower lol
[01:44] <intelikey> my older nv card never had a fan  :)
[01:45] <xenobius> so what do you use linux for primarily intelikey ?
[01:45] <intelikey> well nothing maybe.
[01:45] <intelikey> but i don't do windows
[01:45] <sensae> lol
[01:46] <intelikey> so if i use a computer at all it's a linux box
[01:46] <xenobius> lol i'm actually starting to like windows for intellisense and .net :)
[01:46] <sensae> Um..
[01:46] <xenobius> not to mention all my games work there lol
[01:46] <sensae> If I use the -s flag on badblocks.. how does it show errors?
[01:47] <sensae> I'm assuming "Buffer I/O Error on device hdb, logical block xxxxxx" is a bad sign
[01:47] <intelikey> oh i'm not a gamer.   i was 30 years ago when games were born.
[01:47] <xenobius> hehe
[01:47] <xenobius> lotta pong eh ?
[01:47] <xenobius> :P
[01:47] <intelikey> pre-pong  but yes that too
[01:47] <xenobius> hehe
[01:47] <xenobius> i remember, and i'm not that old, when 25 mhz was considered fast and 100 mhz was considered blinding lol
[01:48] <intelikey> better than computers   we had slot-cars   :)
[01:48] <xenobius> and they still used for-loops to delay game timing
[01:48] <xenobius> lol
[01:49] <sensae> Is badblocks having an issue, or is my drive probably toasted?
[01:49] <xenobius> slot-cars ?
[01:49] <intelikey> sensae badblocks takes a long time.
[01:50] <sensae> intelikey: I know it does, but I used the -s flag. It was doing it's thing normally, and now I'm getting scrolling "Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block (number)"
[01:50] <xenobius> i love old marilyn manson, he was funny
[01:51] <sensae> The numbers are sequential, it looks like sectors. Is that badblock's way of telling me those are bad?
[01:51] <sensae> I'm used to running it without the -s flag, where any output = bad sign
[01:53] <intelikey> sensae oh my.  sounds like you have found something.    could be  1. cable loose (dirty or otherwise not connecting full time)  2. controler on the drive failing.   3. physical defect on the hd   4. a peace of code that is triping an unknown error. (to test for this one you can cat /dev/zero > /dev/hd?   and run badblocks again)  ***destroies all data ***
[01:53] <xenobius> intelikey:  what are slot-cars ?
[01:54] <xenobius> "we got to ride to the abbey of thelema to the abbey of thelema..."
[01:54] <intelikey> xenobius electronic racing cars that use a special "slotted" track
[01:54] <xenobius> oh we had those
[01:54] <xenobius> cheaper versions
[01:54] <xenobius> but we had them :)
[01:55] <jirik> hi, is there some way how to setup adblocking filter in akregator?
[01:55] <xenobius> intelikey:  do any programming ?
[01:56] <intelikey> sensae i stopped using ext3fs after it did that to my hd three times.  use ext2 exclusively now and not a problem sense.      and for the record, yes i know that everyone will say that that wasn't the problem.   but it still happened.
[01:57] <intelikey> xenobius only shell scripting
[01:57] <intelikey> and that's not programming
[01:57] <xenobius> "i don't like the drugs but the drugs like me..i don't like the drugs the drugs the drugs..... norm life baby god is white and unforgiving and we're piss tested and we're praying."
[01:58] <xenobius> intelikey: in linux it seems to be a very important thing to know though
[01:58] <xenobius> one might say that scripting period isn't programming :P
[01:58] <xenobius> write once, interpret anywhere :P
[01:58] <intelikey> echo "4id36on596t3787567c5307o275687645de" | tr -d -- [0-9]
[01:59] <intelikey> echo "4id36on596t3787 567c5307o275687645de" | tr -d -- [0-9]   <<< looks better like that tho
[02:00] <xenobius> god i wish i didn't have to be a good decent well behaved sla... i mean citizen of the us and could roll a dubey.. sigh
[02:00] <sensae> intelikey: Hrm. This is very odd. I ran it again without -s, and it listed a single bad sector, and then keeps having I/O errors
[02:00] <intelikey> sensae the  i/o errors are what i was addressing
[02:01] <sputnick> pain in my ass to find my appli :/
[02:01] <Dr_willis> depends on how anal you want to be in your definition of programming. :)
[02:01] <sputnick> :)
[02:02] <intelikey> doc heh i guess
[02:02] <sensae> intelikey: Ah. Doing it to /dev/hda comes up clean (so far) and they're on the same IDE channel. Could badblocks be getting I/O errors if the controller on the drive itself is dying?
[02:02] <sputnick> define(pain_ass)
[02:02] <Dr_willis> and yes ive seen many a fight over  is 'scripting' programing.. and   at the most common definition i say yes it is. :)
[02:02] <intelikey> sensae yes  that was #2 in the list ^
[02:03] <Dr_willis> if you can 'program' a vcr, then programing  a bash shell - is still programing. :0
[02:03]  * Dr_willis goes back to work.
[02:03] <intelikey> sensae i stopped using ext3fs after it did that to my hd three times.  use ext2 exclusively now and not a problem sense.      and for the record, yes i know that everyone will say that that wasn't the problem.   but it still happened.  <<< repost
[02:03] <sputnick> while ( define(pain_ass) == TRUE ) { print GRRRRR!; $/ };
[02:03] <mixed1> mixed, who are you?
[02:03] <sensae> intelikey: Ah, didn't see that one. -twitches- Okay, now the drive is clicking.
[02:03] <sensae> Which is very odd, because badblocks isn't turning up anything bad. Maybe it's hdb that's clicking
[02:03] <xenobius> hehehe
[02:04]  * xenobius hugs Dr_willis
[02:04] <intelikey> Dr_willis i'll have you to know that bash is not installed here   thank you very much   </acts snooty>    :)
[02:04] <xenobius> dude do you have any reefer ? since i'm loving you up so much i may as well get something out of it :P
[02:04] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  wow.. you are just too leet to be hanging in this channel. :) you should go to #debian :P
[02:04] <mixed1> can someone kick mixed please?
[02:04] <intelikey> lol
[02:04] <redear> y0 dawg, newbie Q, what's a pretty strong chm reader in linux world? something I can install via Adept?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> mixed1,  its your clone.. You handle it. :)
[02:04] <Dr_willis>  - /msg nickserv help
[02:05] <xenobius> irc is such a wonderful medium :)
[02:05] <NickPresta> redear, chm reader?
[02:05] <xenobius> someone should make a superset protocal that isn't a proprietary service
[02:05] <redear> yep
[02:05] <redear> NickPresta: yep
[02:05] <intelikey> sensae  you hear a drive "clicking" repetedly ?      that sounds like controler failure
[02:05] <mixed1> Dr_willis,  I turned wireless on, unhooked lan cable, and lost connection to konversation, however my nick didn't get logged out
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Drive clicking is bad. :)  i agree
[02:06] <Dr_willis> mixed1,  then use the nickserv serices to kill it. or wait for it to time out.
[02:06] <sensae> intelikey: I did for about 30 seconds. I'm badblocking hda and it's still clean so far. I'm thinking the controller on hdb is screwed and that's what was clicking
[02:06] <xenobius> "yesterday man I was a Nihilist, now today i'm just a bore"
[02:06] <redear> Perhaps no chm reader was ever associated w/ 6.06LTS Kubuntu distro?
[02:06] <xenobius> does anyone know any self proclaimed nihilists ? :P
[02:06] <mixed1> sensae, "nickserv" services? LoL  im going to log out and log back in again, see if it works
[02:06] <xenobius> i imagine they don't live very long lol
[02:06] <sensae> lol
[02:07] <Dr_willis> mixed1,  - /msg nickserv help
[02:07] <xenobius> "eh... whats the point of anything, I'm just gonna lay here"
[02:07] <Dr_willis> never mind then...
[02:07] <sensae> Erm.. wait
[02:07] <Mixed2> :)
[02:07] <intelikey> sensae   "the drive is dead.     long live the drive !"     and i would indeed test   the   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdb     before i pulled it out.
[02:07] <xenobius> twins !
[02:07] <xenobius> :)
[02:07] <Mixed2> quick someone take mixed1
[02:07] <tmalloy> Dr_willis: nice!
[02:07] <Mixed2> then start pasteing what he said earlier.
[02:08] <mixed1> 3way.. this is hot :P
[02:08] <mixed1> lol
[02:08] <sensae> intelikey: I'm planning on it. My main concern is getting the information off the RAID
[02:08] <sensae> intelikey: And hrm.. badblocks says it's running on hda, but the HD activity light is completely dead.
[02:08] <intelikey> oh my.   and unraid them before you do a cat write....
[02:08] <mixed2> Its fun in an office meeting if someone gets up to go to the bathroom.. everyone moves around...
[02:08] <mixed_> why is it my nickname doesn't get logged off? LoL
[02:09] <mixed2> Who are you?
[02:10] <mixed2>  [mixed] (n=elf@ool-45765ccc.dyn.optonline.net) : mixed -- [mixed] idle 00:26:10, signon: Sun Feb  3 19:13:48
[02:10] <mixed2> I would think you have a irc client running in the background logged in as mixed.
[02:11] <intelikey> can't you g'host a living client ?
[02:11] <sensae> intelikey: Erm.. the whole system appears to have locked up while badblocking it
[02:11] <intelikey> sensae typical with i/o errors
[02:12] <sensae> intelikey: Even if it's the drive controller's fault, and I was doing it from a liveCD?
[02:12] <bootsmorris> i need to get some help setting up kismet and running it
[02:12] <intelikey> the system is like "oh no, my * has been amputated!"    and it just fr33kz
[02:12] <intelikey> sensae yes    ^
[02:13] <sputnick> humpff! I finnally found my app : http://stardust.3.free.fr/guest/b4z44r/captur1.png       where is the executable ?
[02:13] <sputnick> "power management"
[02:14] <intelikey> sensae think of it as an amputation and you can see why with i/o (blood gushing every where) the system can't function properly.    it's a "first things first" emergency
[02:15] <sensae> Heh yea
[02:15] <sensae> *yeah
[02:15] <intelikey> "where is all my i/o going ???"
[02:16] <intelikey> MEDIC!
[02:16] <sensae> I unplugged hdb, I'm going to badblocks hda and if it's fine, pull the data off, wipe hdb, run badblocks on it again, and then set the system back up
[02:16] <intelikey> good on ya then.
[02:17] <dabbill> I just installed kubuntu 8.04 ... how do i get KDE4 up?
[02:17] <intelikey> !kde4 | dabbill
[02:17] <ubotu> dabbill: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:17] <intelikey> !hardy
[02:17] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:17] <intelikey>                                     ^
[02:18] <sensae> I'm tempted to grab the KDE4 liveCD and play with it
[02:18]  * intelikey is just tempted
[02:19] <jhutchins> sensae: Don't let any of us stop you.
[02:19] <jhutchins> From what I've heard, it's about where KDE 3.0.0 was, so don't expect much except grand concepts.
[02:20] <jhutchins> dabbill: You do realise it's still in early development, right?  Not meant as an actual working desktop.
[02:20] <intelikey> i guess that's why we havent see jucato around here in a while   ?
[02:21] <intelikey> are they still doing any work on 3.x ?
[02:24] <redear> Hi guys, I am using Kubuntu 6.06LTS, I added the PLF and Commercial distro links to sources.list (recommended by http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories) and unfortunately I still cannot find xchm. Any tips?
[02:24] <intelikey> redear you using dapper ?
[02:26] <redear> intelikey: yes, Dapper -> uname -a says I am using 6.06LTS
[02:26] <intelikey> !info xchm dapper
[02:26] <ubotu> xchm (source: xchm): Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[02:26] <redear> is it because I forgot to do something after I added new entries into sources.list?
[02:27] <redear> Like, do I have to tell apt-get to fetch new update lists?
[02:27] <biovore> sudo apt-get update
[02:27] <redear> biovore: ahhhhhh
[02:27] <biovore> sudo apt-get upgrade <-- to install updates
[02:27] <redear> my bad :-( hehehe
[02:27] <redear> i bet that's it
[02:27] <intelikey> redear yes  but you didn't need PLF and Commercial   it's in universe
[02:29] <bootsmorris> i am trying to use kismet and i cant figure this out i need to tell it how to use my wireless card but i dont know what to put in the source field.  here is what i put and i am stuck any help would be greatly appriceated  FATAL: Unknown capture source type 'atheros' in source 'atheros,ath0,atheros
[02:29] <intelikey> redear here is a sources.list if you mess yours up.      just so you can see the simplicity of it.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5867ac4c
[02:30] <intelikey> all # can be removed as needed.
[02:30] <redear> intelikey: oh
[02:30] <mixed_> !flash
[02:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[02:31] <intelikey> redear yeah mine doesn't have any comments  so any hash mark (#) can be removed to activate the rest of that line.
[02:31] <mixed_> !flash
[02:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[02:32] <intelikey> or moved <<< as needed  to disable other sections.
[02:33] <mixed_> how do u install flash on gutsy gibbon?
[02:34] <intelikey> /msg ubotu FlashIssues
[02:34] <mixed_> !flash
[02:34] <intelikey> no. flashissues
[02:34] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[02:35] <intelikey> !FlashIssues | mixed_ like this <<<
[02:35] <ubotu> mixed_ like this <<<: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[02:35] <juancho> hello
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[02:36] <intelikey> oh they removed the howto manually install it from that infonode
[02:37] <juancho> hello everyone
[02:37] <mixed_> flash is basically not workin in gutsy gibbon then? :-(
[02:37] <intelikey> why do they always remove useful information in favor of "ubuntu's windows act alike, pointy clicky get mad cause it don't work thingys" ???
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> mixed1, works ok here :). i run 32bit on amd64
[02:38] <intelikey> mixed_ it works. but the ubuntu installer doesn't.
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, i guess its to get more people away cos they want a pretty gui
[02:38] <mixed_> ActionParsnip, how did you install flash? from the adobe website?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> mixed1, i used the tarball and copied the .so to my plugins folder
[02:39] <mixed_> Actionparsnip, ill try the version in the adobe website then thanks
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> mixed1, np :D
[02:39] <intelikey> ActionParsnip they had a step by step on that in the end of the !FlashIssues   and at one time attacted to !flash too
[02:39] <juancho> hello
[02:39] <juancho> this is a teApplicationsst
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> intelikey, i kinda worked it out </smug>
[02:40] <juancho> this is a test
[02:40] <juancho> does anybody copy mee
[02:40] <intelikey> des-quatro
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> juancho, yes im getting text. is that a success
[02:41] <redear> intelikey: hey thanks for your help, it's working now
[02:41] <intelikey> redear welcome
[02:41] <redear> turns out the default distro pkg space was something called restricted
[02:41] <redear> based on what my eyes can diff
[02:42] <intelikey> redear the list of repos    main universe multiverse restricted    includes all of them.   i have restricted commented out cause i don't like non-foss
[02:44] <redear> ahh
[02:44] <redear> i better read up more about apt
[02:45] <intelikey> and the urls like "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security"  tell apt which area of "main universe multiverse restricted"  to fetch from.       the supported ones are   "<release>  <release>-updates <release>-security <release>-backports "   and additional ones like "plf seveas" and others and others.
[02:46] <cristian> alguien habla espa├▒ol??
[02:46] <intelikey> !es | cristian
[02:46] <ubotu> cristian: Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[02:46] <mixed1> "where do bad folks go when they die they don't go to the heaven where the angels fly, go to a place of fire and fry, see'em again till the 4th of july... i know a lady bit of a loon, bit by a dog with a rabid tooth, went to her grave just a lil too soon.."
[02:47] <mixed1> "people cry, people moan, look for a dry place to call their own, look for a place to just rest their bones while the angels and the devils try to make them their own.."
[02:47] <mixed_> how do you install an rpm file in gutsy?  "rpm" is not installed in my distro, are rpm's supported in ubuntu??
[02:47] <intelikey> good way to find the exit mixed_
[02:48] <intelikey> er xenobius i mean
[02:48] <xenobius> no its mixed
[02:48] <xenobius> i was mixed1 remember
[02:48] <intelikey> !rpm | mixed_
[02:48] <ubotu> mixed_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:48] <xenobius> he asked someone to switch to it quick
[02:48] <xenobius> intelikey: where you from anyway ?
[02:49] <intelikey> us.gov
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> mixed_, stick to the repos man
[02:49] <xenobius> oi
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> mixed_, saves a lot of headache
[02:49] <mixed_> intelikey, thanks for the 411
[02:49]  * xenobius finds something to shoot intelikey with
[02:49] <xenobius> nothing personal man :P
[02:50] <mixed_> ActionParsnip, I will do that, ive had quite a few headaches with rpm hell
[02:50] <intelikey> mixed_ just wait.  it'll get worse.
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> mixed_, repos sort that all for you :)
[02:50] <xenobius> so you're really a gov man ?
[02:50] <xenobius> or are you just from the us ?
[02:50] <xenobius> LOl
[02:51]  * ActionParsnip is from UK but currently in US
[02:51] <intelikey> does it matter?   or are we about to play the ASL game again ?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> ASL is sooo 90s
[02:51] <xenobius> asl :P
[02:52] <intelikey> it's so aol / yahoo
[02:52] <xenobius> lol
[02:52] <xenobius> just curious
[02:52] <xenobius> being friendly
[02:52] <intelikey> !ot
[02:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:52] <xenobius> people are still friendly... somewhere, right ?
[02:52] <xenobius> kk
[02:53] <intelikey> yeah in  #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <intelikey> sometimes
[02:53] <xenobius> you gonna come in or don't ya like me ? :(
[02:53] <intelikey> besides, i'm not root!       i am INIT !
[02:53] <intelikey> lol
[02:54] <snarkster> any news about kde4? any new updates?
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, stdin did a sweet walkthrough if you want it
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, is that what you meant?
[03:02] <snarkster> yes please
[03:03] <snarkster> ActionParsnip: where would I find that
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[03:04] <snarkster> than you
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, you wil stil be running kde3 too cos stuff like amarok still use kde3 libs
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, np dude
[03:10] <redear> may i ask why the authorization dialog doesn't offer to remember the password for a smb link?
[03:10] <snarkster> thats a good question
[03:10] <snarkster> I still cant get smb to work. LOL
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> !smb
[03:11] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:11] <snarkster> hell I started kpf and it doesnt work either for that matter
[03:11]  * regeya should try to work with smb some more.
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> !kpf
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <regeya> I thought it DID offer a dialog...but hell, I haven't got any machin...wait, I do have an xp box, I should try it out.  or not.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, why not use an ftp server on the windows box
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> konqueror does some file sharey stuff if you right click a folder -> properties
[03:14] <snarkster> right right click> properties> share> name, port, speed.. did work doesnt work now
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, just run an ftp server and the windows clients can connect from there
[03:15] <arabiannights> help low volume kmix isnß╣½ helping everything turned to full.
[03:15] <arabiannights> help low volume kmix isnß╣½ helping everything turned to full.  this happened likely after installing and then uninstalling vlc. i hate it
[03:16] <otc> hello all
[03:16] <justASSET> need a help
[03:17] <NickPresta> justASSET, what do you need help with
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, ok we need more, are yuo using headphnes and is it your main speaker port or is it a front panel;
[03:17] <justASSET> well first of all thanks for fast reply :)
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask | justASSET
[03:17] <ubotu> justASSET: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:17] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip> yes and yes
[03:17] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip> wait what is main speaker port?
[03:18] <justASSET> my Konqueror doesnt want to surf the Internet
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, some systems have from sound ports like on a desktop system to make interfacing easir
[03:18] <Absurdo> konqueror hates you
[03:18] <justASSET> possible
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, where are the speakers plugged in? are you on a laptop or desktop
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, can you ping websites?
[03:19] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip it isnt
[03:19] <justASSET> yes i can ping them all
[03:19] <justASSET> i have a proxy
[03:19] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip it isnt plugged in i just use headphones
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> try accessing the website via ip instead of name
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, ok laptop or desktop?
[03:19] <justASSET> you mean there is a problem with DNS?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, maybe, try it
[03:20] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip desktop
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, ok and do te phones connect round the back of the tower or the front
[03:20] <justASSET> i did, but ...
[03:21] <justASSET> same problem occurs
[03:21] <arabiannights> ActionParsnip back
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> arabiannights, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/15876
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, do you have your proxy setup ok in your browser
[03:25] <justASSET> yes i have configured my proxy setup
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, can you apt-get stuff?
[03:26] <justASSET> yee, i have just apt-get'ed pidgin
[03:27] <justASSET> this is the first time i have been using KDE
[03:27] <justASSET> so, don know how an where....
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, alt+f2
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> type sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, that should update your system from repositories
[03:29] <justASSET> ok
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, let us know if it updates you
[03:29] <justASSET> 224 Mb's
[03:29] <justASSET> not so much
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, get updated then let us know if its still not working
[03:30] <justASSET> ok
[03:31] <justASSET> can you explain me why i should upgrade my newly installed linux to get my web-browser connected to the internet, please
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, your CD is a snapshot of the stuff that makes the system go. Since then there have been updates which you clearly need
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> 224mb of updates is a fair bit
[03:32] <justASSET> :)
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> so the stuff you are runing has been revised and changed to be better or new featires
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> one of which may get you sorted out
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> personally i always update systems when they are fresh installed so I have the latest system
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> the sudo apt-get update updates the version number syou have for stuff
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> then the upgrade will pull down the newest of what you currently have installed
[03:34] <jeisma> HI!
[03:34] <justASSET> aha, i got the idea
[03:34] <jeisma> can someone help me fix my wireless?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, wassup?
[03:34] <justASSET> another question, what is you attitude towards Firefox?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, I use it man its sweet
[03:34] <justASSET> :)
[03:35] <albertmk> besides Konqueror, what's another browser for Kubuntu?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, sudo apt-get install firefox ;)
[03:35] <justASSET> you're right albertmk :)
[03:35] <albertmk> I though firefox was bad for KDE
[03:35] <jeisma> ActionParsnip, I'm using an ethernet cable right now and I just installed kubuntu and my wireless won't work
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, who makes your wireless card?
[03:35] <jeisma> ActionParsnip, what do I need to get from the depositories to mae my wireless work?
[03:35] <jeisma> I'm not sure, how do I find that out?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, lspci in konsole
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | jeisma
[03:36] <ubotu> jeisma: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <jeisma> It came pre-installed
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, lspci will tell us
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> albertmk, how so?
[03:36] <albertmk> justASSET, am I ? I've just logged in :)
[03:36] <albertmk> anyway, thanks for that :D
[03:36] <jeisma> ActionParsnip where in there?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, you need to type lspci in a konsole window (Alt+f2)
[03:37] <justASSET> you're wellcome
[03:37] <jeisma> ActionParsnip, Oh, i'm sorry I already did.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, then copy the text to there
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, you will get a link to paste in here
[03:38] <jeisma> ActionParsnip it said there was malicious content?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> really?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> thats insane
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, ok is this a laptop? or a desktop?
[03:39] <hydrogen> firefox is bad for everyone
[03:39] <hydrogen> use opera albertmk
[03:39] <jeisma> It's a laptop
[03:39] <needhelp> !email
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, ok what make and model
[03:40] <needhelp> how to set up an email server?
[03:40] <jeisma> gateway.. and
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> needhelp- I'd recommend postfix
[03:40] <jeisma> i don't know
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40047
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelp, try www.google.com too
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, dell, acer, sony?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, ibm?
[03:41] <needhelp> postfix..ok
[03:41] <jeisma> ActionParsnip it's gateway
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, ok, so now we need the model
[03:41] <needhelp> Dragnslcr: i need something for local emails because many of my apps need to send out log messages via email which i can't
[03:41] <jeisma> ActionParsnip yeaah how do I find that?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, itll be printer on it some place
[03:42] <jeisma> got it
[03:42] <jeisma> ActionParsnip ML3109
[03:42] <justASSET> jeisma, usually the model is printed in the bottom of the laptop
[03:42] <justASSET> ops, sorry
[03:43] <jeisma> ActionParsnip Gateway ML3109
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, ok im looking now
[03:44] <intelikey> lshw | less     if it's running linux
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, did you google to find the answer yourself
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, cos I just found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664353
[03:45] <jeisma> ActionParsnip Thanks for goin to the trouble of doing that! I definitely didn't :(
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, its cool man
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, try looking first, there is a whole LOAD of stuff out there
[03:45] <jeisma> ActionParsnip this works for kubuntu, or just ubunutu?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, same thing just a different fromnt end. One uses KDE other uses Gnome
[03:46] <jeisma> What's the difference between gnome and kde?
[03:46] <the-erm> Anyone know off the top of their head what /dev is the mouse?
[03:47] <jeisma> ActionParsnip How do I manage repositories? I didn't get the updates when I first isntalled
[03:47] <the-erm> I was thinking of making a program that monitored for mouse movement, then if it has been 12 hours since the last backup, and 2 hours since any mouse movement it'd start backing up the drive.
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> the-erm, /dev/ps2 usually
[03:47] <the-erm> thanks ActionParsnip
[03:48] <intelikey>               /dev/input/mice
[03:48] <the-erm> psaux seems to be it for me ...
[03:48] <intelikey> it's a udev thang
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, its looks and some apps run in gnome and others in kde. you can mix the 2 but you'll need the libraries for both which bloats your system and theres usually one that'll run in the deskktop you choose
[03:48] <tyson_> how do i change the login screen?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, like gedit is a gnome text editor but kde uses kate instead
[03:49] <the-erm>  /dev/input/mouse1 also seems to be it as well ...
[03:49] <the-erm> thanks for your help guys.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> the-erm, you can use lspci too
[03:49] <sub[t]rnl> !kdmtheme
[03:49] <ubotu> To customize your !KDM theme, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu - However, see http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/kdmtheme.html for working around bug #132723 (http://tinyurl.com/2prhgc)
[03:50] <yion> what’╝¤
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> jeisma, go see for yourself www.google.co.uk
[03:51] <tyson_> ...but that didnt mention the login screen
[03:51] <tyson_> jsut for stuff after you login
[03:52] <joedj> heyas. does anyone know a root-portal equivalent that works in KDE?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> joedj, whats a root portal?
[03:52] <joedj> ActionParsnip: tails logs and stuff on the X desktop
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> joedj, yeah just looked
[03:53] <yion> look administrator in windoes
[03:53] <justASSET> ActionParsnip, do I have to reboot the system?
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> joedj, you can install it but you're gonna install all the gnome libs too
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, what for?
[03:53] <joedj> ActionParsnip: yes, i already have it installed. it doesn't work very well
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, after the updates>
[03:53] <joedj> ActionParsnip: ignores my size settings etc...
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> justASSET, cant hurt :)
[03:53] <justASSET> after upgrades
[03:54] <justASSET> :)
[03:54] <justASSET> OK
[03:54] <justASSET> thanks
[03:54] <redear> I want to learn package administration well, should I learn about apt or aptitude or adept?
[03:54] <redear> !apt
[03:54] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> joedj, root-tail (?)
[03:54] <redear> !aptitude
[03:54] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> !root-tail
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root-tail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <intelikey> !info root-tail
[03:56] <ubotu> root-tail (source: root-tail): Displays select log files in the X root window. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> cheers intelikey
[03:56] <ahmos> Hi, when i try to open adept manager it tells me that there is another process is uing the pakage system ,so what is the process name to kill it
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmos, are you updating?
[03:56] <ahmos> no
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> !stuckadept
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuckadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <intelikey> !adeptcrash
[03:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: ┬½ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ┬╗
[04:00] <ahmos> Thank u ..I've fixed it
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> ahmos, sweet
[04:00] <ahmos> ;)
[04:00] <jeisma> Could someone tell me if I'm on the right track to updating my kubuntu..
[04:00] <jeisma> I just enabled the dapper-updates?
[04:01] <jeisma> and now they're downloading
[04:01] <jeisma> i did this in adept
[04:02] <joecurlee> hi... i'm trying to install kubuntu for the first time and getting scrolling text "connection status changed"
[04:02] <joecurlee> any suggestions?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> joecurlee, you googled some?
[04:03] <shadofall> hrmm..
[04:03] <joecurlee> full text: "[xxxx.xxxxxx] ata2: (irc_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed)
[04:03] <joecurlee> yes googled
[04:04] <joecurlee> seeing things related to hard drive but nothing significant. just built this system tonight
[04:04] <shadofall> hmm ok. still can only boot in to recovery mode.. i got the kdm going and was able to enable the restricted drivers.. but still no luck :(
[04:05] <jeisma> TO fully upgrade your old kubuntu, do you just enable the version-updates in the repositories
[04:05] <jeisma> and click full upgrade and apply changes?
[04:06] <Odd-rationale> How do I get the Konqueror start up page?
[04:06] <joecurlee> ActionParsnip, i have a sata hd... not sure if that matters or if hd is even the issue here.
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> about:/
[04:06] <Odd-rationale> sub[t]rnl: Thanks!
[04:06] <XenReborn> omg
[04:09] <mrdlouisd> I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on a 4 gig pen drive, but when I go to stick it all on my pen drive it says that its full
[04:10] <mrdlouisd> ive made the partions and what not via the tutorials on it
[04:13] <ahmos> !superkaramba
[04:13] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:15] <ahmos> how to install superkaramba?plz
[04:16] <jeisma> COuld someone tell me how to update my kubuntu to the latest version?
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> !upgrade | jeisma
[04:16] <ubotu> jeisma: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:18] <intelikey> jeisma from dapper ?
[04:19] <jeisma> intelikey yes, from dapper
[04:19] <jeisma> jeisma@jeisma-laptop:~$ gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:19] <jeisma> bash: gksu: command not found
[04:19] <piss_> Question.  I downloaded an app and installed it.  now i can't find it!  How do I open it?
[04:19] <jeisma> why does that happen?
[04:19] <intelikey> jeisma get the dvd
[04:20] <intelikey> jeisma because you have kde not gnome   kdesu
[04:21] <intelikey> and you don't wan to try to upgrade from  dapper > * > * > gutsy   just reload.
[04:21] <jeisma> well how do i do a clean reinstall without the cd?
[04:21] <jeisma> well  lets say i want to go from
[04:21] <piss_> can any body throw me a bone?
[04:22] <intelikey> !install
[04:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:22] <jeisma> intelikey say i want to install from dapper to edgy
[04:22] <intelikey> piss_   dpkg -L package-name | grep bin/
[04:22] <piss_> anybody?
[04:23] <intelikey> jeisma change the sources.list entries from dapper to edgy   apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade    then come back and whine when it breaks.
[04:24] <intelikey> and some one will try to help you sort it all out :)
[04:24] <jeisma> why will it break?
[04:26] <jeisma> intelikey why will it break? how do i change the sources.list entries?
[04:28] <jeisma> DOes anyone know if I can download the latest version of kubuntu and install it without a cd?
[04:32] <ahmos> I've installed superkaramba and compiled it..but when i type the command make I get this:make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.,son any help please..
[04:38] <redear> hi, i can't seem the find the info from man apt so hopefully you don't mind: how do I check if a deb pkg is installed and it's status (files, dependency compliance, installed-ness)
[04:38] <redear> ?
[04:38] <redear> it doesn't seem to be the same as apt-cache showpkg
[04:39] <sensae> Does anyone know of a way to get NFS to ignore hidden files? I want to mount my OpenSuSE home right on top of my Kubuntu home, but I don't want all the hidden config files mounted as well
[04:39] <shadofall> ok. need some thoughts.. i cant get kubuntu to load normaly. just sits at a black screen. i can boot to recovery mode. and get in to the kdm desktop. and got the restricted drivers for my vidcard set. and the desktop enviroment improved when i did. but still unable to boot
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> shadofallŌ×£ pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:43] <shadofall> ok. i'll reboot and get it.
[04:43] <Olgem> Whenever I try and use adept another program seems to be locking apt, and it consistently crashes whenever I try and "unlock" it. This started happening after I installed a whole bunch of software at once and there was some sort of conflict, although all the software seems to be installed correctly. Is this common, I suppose I could google and I might find a FAQ on it.
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> !aptfix | Olgem have you tried this?
[04:44] <ubotu> Olgem have you tried this?: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: ┬½ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ┬╗
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> might want to run 	sudo apt-get -f install	 as well
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> bbiab
[04:45] <otc> anyone faced the problem with sound on laptop?
[04:46] <Olgem> Thanks a ton sub[t]rnl, that works.
[04:46] <Olgem> :]
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> otc: that's like asking "anyone ever had a rash?"  you're bound to get a lot of yes's, but for a million different reasons
[04:47] <Olgem> Where can I get a list of trigger and help topic for ubotu
[04:47] <Olgem> topics*
[04:47] <bfrog> ok why don't my fn keys work
[04:47] <bfrog> I'm watching /var/log/acpid
[04:48] <bfrog> and its clearly running the right script in /etc/acpi
[04:48] <bfrog> but like, my volume doesn't go up/down
[04:48] <Daisuke_Ido> !factoids
[04:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:48] <bfrog> brightness doesn't go up/down
[04:48] <Olgem> Thanks
[04:48] <needhelp> helppppp my squirrelmail keep complaining unknown user when i already created a user in mysql database~!~! anyone can assist?
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> try #mysql or #php
[04:49] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not a kubuntu-related question
[04:49] <bfrog> other people's fn keys just work?
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> never had a problem with them myself
[04:50] <bfrog> they worked in the previous version perfectly...
[04:50] <needhelp> Congratulations, your SquirrelMail setup looks fine to me!
[04:50] <bfrog> 7.10 they broke :-/
[04:50] <jeisma> WHat do I need to do to burn the kubuntu feisty iso onto a cd?\
[04:51] <bfrog> maybe in 50.04 they'll work again ::rolls eyes:: by then linux should have perfect acpi support... maybe
[04:53] <shadofall> ok sub[t]rnl im back. what part do you want me to paste to ya
[04:54] <ol_dude67> shadofall, he said he would bbiab
[04:54] <shadofall> ok
[04:55] <ahmos> can somebody help me installing superkaramba plz?
[04:55] <ol_dude67> you could paste the url in here and see if someone else can look at it.
[04:55] <shadofall> hm where can i upload it to.
[04:56] <ol_dude67> !pastebin
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> ok
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:57] <shadofall> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54674/
[04:57] <xenobius> lalalal
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> shadofallŌ×£ remove splash from 89 and 132.
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> save it and reboot again.  Lets see if this is a framebuffer issue
[04:59] <shadofall> just remove the entire line?
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> nope, just "splash"
[05:00] <shadofall> alright. well brb again
[05:02] <ubuntu> hi, im using the live cd as i messed up my pc. i need to move somee information to my backup partition but cant mount the partitions as read/write
[05:02] <ubuntu> how can i manage my file from one partition to another from the live cd
[05:03] <Chani> I've got some odd sound issues
[05:04] <Chani> I'm using feisty, and compiled my own alsa-lib a few days ago to get better sound. it works absolutely perfectly for a day or so, but then jst stops, mid-song, without me doing anything. alsa falls over, amarok freezes or crashes, and yet oss sound still works.
[05:05] <Chani> so far the only way to unbreak alsa is for me toreboot
[05:05] <Chani> anyone know where I would even start to debug this?
[05:05] <ComunisTico> anyone knows how to mount a partition from the livecd so i can read/write on it?
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> ComunisTicoŌ×£ open konsole, then 	sudo fdisk -l	 to list your partitions and drives.  create a mountpoint 	mkdir tmp/	 then mount the partition you want to: i.e. 	sudo mount /dev/hda1 tmp/	
[05:06] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[05:06] <hydrogen> Chani: I wonder if its the same as my issue with arts.. do you still have arts running in the background?
[05:06] <Chani> no.
[05:06] <Chani> I killed arts and nothing hanged
[05:06] <Chani> *changed
 i monted the partion and can see my files but cant move them,,, that way i can atleast move them from place to place?
[05:07] <bfrog> whatever, I'm just going to avoid osd for key changes
[05:07] <bfrog> cause apparently they suck
[05:07] <Chani> also, funny thing: I decided to try unloading hte snd modules, but modprobe insists snd_intel8x0 is in use by 4 things, although it won't say what
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> ComunisTicoŌ×£ use sudo to move what you need? or you can mount the partitions using a umask
[05:09] <ComunisTico> umask? whats that?
[05:09] <biovore> permissions
[05:10] <ComunisTico> how can i move my files using sudo?
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> cp
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> sudo cp -p /mnt/pointA/file /mnt/pointB/
[05:12] <Daisuke_Ido> winehq appears to be down
[05:14] <shadofall> ok.. well removing spalsh seems to work. got me in
[05:14] <ComunisTico> thanks ill give it a try
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> np
[05:16] <shadofall> so just a problem with the splash screen then that was keeping me out or am i still missing something
[05:16] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, framebuffer issue
[05:16] <ComunisTico> sub[t]rnl and to move a complete folder were i put the file i just put the foler name or what?
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, use -R fto copy directories recursively
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> s/fto/to
[05:18] <shadofall> sub, so anythhing else i need to do. or just leave it as is
[05:18] <ComunisTico> sudo cp -R fto /mnt/pointA/file /mnt/pointB/
[05:18] <ComunisTico> like this_
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> for a directory?
[05:19] <ComunisTico> yeah a whole folder?
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> sudo cp -R /this/place/folder /that/place/folder
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> shadofallŌ×£ nothing really.  You can dive into loading up vesafb and unblacklisting some stuff if you want to get framebuffering to work
[05:20] <shadofall> eh not stressing it. if its not gona cuase me another issue
[05:21] <fyrmedic> I just installed 64bit. How do I know that both processors are working. Some things seem faster but I am looking for a benchtest or something.
[05:21] <sub[t]rnl> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:22] <sub[t]rnl> kinfocenter if you need a gui
[05:22] <fyrmedic> Ok thanks.. It has two listed and they list the same stuff. I guess thats good?
[05:22] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[05:22] <fyrmedic> sweet thanks.
[05:25] <fyrmedic> There really aren't a lot of 64 bit packages are there?
[05:33] <shadofall>  i cant use flash on the x86_64?
[05:34] <biovore> it does work.. but require extra work..
[05:34] <biovore> netscape plugin wrapper is required..
[05:34] <shadofall> ok.
[05:35] <biovore> you install the 32bit flash
[05:35] <biovore> make sure you install ia32-libs as well
[05:35] <biovore> its a manual install at this time..
[05:35] <shadofall> ia32-libs or ia32-libs-kde?
[05:36] <biovore> ia32-libs
[05:36] <shadofall> its installed
[05:38] <arabiannights> how many times during the day do you brush teeth? and do you always brush teeth after eating food at night? XD thank you
[05:40] <ol_dude67> huh?
[05:40] <hydrogen> topic...
[05:41] <bfrog> whats the magic behind acpi_fakekeys ?
[05:42] <skar> hi, i want to remote login to a kubuntu server which supports resume sessions, with clipboard sharing between client and server, is there any way to do it?
[05:43] <shadofall> got it thanks
[05:43] <heinkel_111> shadofall: you there?
[05:43] <ahmos> H everybodt Ineed some help to install suberkaramba 0.39.. I can't compile it!!
[05:43] <shadofall> yes un gere
[05:43] <shadofall> err yes im here
[05:44] <heinkel_111> shadofall: flash works on 64 bit kubuntu
[05:44] <shadofall> yea i got it :)
[05:44] <heinkel_111> shadofall: but the installer appears to be broken at this time
[05:44] <arabiannights> when people sleep how do they sleep angry?  would they call the cops if i wake them up? i am different race than them
[05:44] <heinkel_111> shadofall: you don't need to do the nspluginwrapper
[05:45] <heinkel_111> shadofall: this is automated
[05:45] <shadofall> well already did it with the nspluginwrapper
[05:45] <heinkel_111> shadofall: please read this post for some explanation: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088844.0
[05:46] <redear> if I am a heavy user of python (use it to floss even) I probably want to have multiple version of it around, what's the best way to accomplish this?
[05:46] <heinkel_111> shadofall: this solution was painfree, no hacking required :P
[05:46] <ahmos> !superkaramba 0.39 install
[05:46] <redear> !python
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <shadofall> so i see
[05:46] <redear> !multiple-verions
[05:46] <redear> !multiple-versions
[05:46] <redear> anyone?
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ why not use the superkaramba in the repo's?
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're using a python to flush, you have GOT to have some huuuge gaps >_>
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> flush?
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> floss.
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> there we go
[05:47] <ahmos> is there ?I searched in the add/rmove programes but i didn't find it
[05:47] <redear> I was just kidding
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> as was i
[05:47] <arabiannights> instead of feeling relaxed do you ever feel like your body is burning up after 15 minutes of exercise by walking or running and walking?
[05:47] <bfrog> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree says there's a md5 mismatch :-(
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> but anyway, you're not really going to need two versions of python around until 3 comes out
[05:47] <redear> but is it difficult in Debian/Ubuntu land to arrange for multiple version of Python distros be installed concurrently?
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> bfrog: do you read the topic when you enter this channel?
[05:48] <redear> like 2.3, 2.4
[05:48] <bfrog> oh no
[05:48] <sub[t]rnl> !ot | arabiannights as hydrogen already pointed out..
[05:48] <ubotu> arabiannights as hydrogen already pointed out..: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken
[05:48] <zetheroo> why is it that the network manager for Kubuntu does not show available wireless networks like the manager in Ubuntu?
[05:48] <bfrog> Daisuke_Ido: fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it! I need youtube
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> bfrog: go to adobe.com and download the tar.gz
[05:49] <bfrog> bah so much hassle, ok
[05:49] <zetheroo> I have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this machine and in Ubuntu I can see all the wifi networks right away... but in Kubuntu there is nothing..... and the device is enabled and all
[05:49] <bfrog> does it work in konqueror
[05:49] <bfrog> I heard there's a bug where konqueror crashes all the time with flash
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> -with flash :\
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> zetherooŌ×£ right click on the knetworkmanager icon, go to options, and make sure wireless is enabled.  You can also check 	iwlist wlan0 scan
[05:50] <heinkel_111> ?
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i'm not a huge fan of konqueror :)
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> as a web browser, at least
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> zetherooŌ×£ wlan0 being your wireless interface
[05:50] <heinkel_111> bfrog, Daisuke_Ido: konqueror works no crashing
[05:50] <zetheroo> wireless is enabled
[05:50] <bfrog> um, its awesome as a webbrowser, not a slow beast like that firefox monster is
[05:50] <heinkel_111> <--- I am big fan of konq
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> heinkel_111: speak for yourself
[05:50] <hydrogen> opera++
[05:50] <bfrog> "lets make ourselves a web browser with a xml based gui"
[05:50] <bfrog> yeah, brilliant
[05:50] <biovore> konqueror passes acid2 render test.. better then IE or firefox in that sense.. :-P
[05:51] <bfrog> slowest thing ever
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> zetherooŌ×£ knetworkmanager isn't a great peace of software yet
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i like opera
[05:51] <zetheroo> no kidding
[05:51] <hydrogen> acid2 is completely useless in real world application
[05:51] <hydrogen> but
[05:51] <hydrogen> this is all off topic
[05:51] <hydrogen> so meh
[05:51] <zetheroo> so what do I do then?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> FF3 is shaping up to be pretty nice as well
[05:51] <ForgeAus> one thing I hate about XP is that you need a 3rd party tool to edit the min/max/close boxes
[05:51] <heinkel_111> no...i informed that correctly installed konq in AMD64 version is stable
[05:51] <ForgeAus> I mean wouldn't you have thought microsoft would have at least let you modify them?
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> zetherooŌ×£ scan from the command line? use a different gui?
[05:52] <heinkel_111> that is not offtopic, it crashes less than IE and firefox
[05:52] <zetheroo> scan from the command line?
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> heinkel_111: you said nothing about any of that, it is offtopic, especially since IE's not competition in this case.
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> zetherooŌ×£ read me first post to you
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> s/me/my
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> !wifi-radar > zetheroo
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> !wifi-rader | zetheroo
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi-rader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> !info wifi-rader | zetheroo
[05:53] <ubotu> zetheroo: Package wifi-rader does not exist in gutsy
[05:53] <zetheroo> I think i'll use wireless-assistant
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> oops
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> !info wifi-radar | zetheroo
[05:53] <ubotu> zetheroo: wifi-radar (source: wifi-radar): graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[05:54] <heinkel_111> Daisuke_Ido: not when i respond to someone that claims he has heard rumours that konqueror crashes often
[05:54] <heinkel_111> and someone that apparently does not use konq makes a statement that is wrong imho
[05:54] <heinkel_111> gn8
[05:54] <zetheroo> so how is it that the kde network manager has been neglected like this?
[05:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic | heinkel_111
[05:55] <ubotu> heinkel_111: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> the discussion is over, it's been over
[05:55] <biovore> zetheroo: its suse things
[05:55] <zetheroo> biovore: sorry?
[05:55] <biovore> its written by a guy from suse (now novel)
[05:55] <bfrog> how would I install the flash plugin on 64bit?
[05:56] <zetheroo> oh I see
[05:56] <bfrog> without using the .deb
[05:56] <hydrogen> !flash | bfrog
[05:56] <zetheroo> well thats not very great
[05:56] <ubotu> bfrog: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[05:56] <hydrogen> did somene already link you that?
[05:56] <hydrogen> !flashissues | bfrog
[05:56] <ubotu> bfrog: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[05:56] <bfrog> psh, that could take *forever* right? or is that like 2 days from now
[05:57] <arabiannights> why do brown people get treated like women?
[05:57] <f00f> looking to replace my buggy 7600GS with an ATi HD 2600XT.. good or bad choice?
[05:58] <hydrogen> bfrog: well, that factoids been like that forever
[05:58] <hydrogen> try grabbing the update out of -proposed
[06:00] <bfrog> why is shite like that, stuff that probably the majority of users would like to have, broken
[06:00] <bfrog> thats what I don't get
[06:00] <bfrog> :-(
[06:00] <bfrog> --linux
[06:01] <hydrogen> --adobe you mean
[06:01] <bfrog> why is it broken, why don't they just update the package...
[06:01] <bfrog> --ubuntu
[06:01] <hydrogen> randomly decided to use a "standard" that firefox created and supported, undocumentedly
[06:01] <bfrog> oh
[06:01] <bfrog> --adobe then
[06:02] <jussi01> bfrog: it is fixed, just that it is in -proposed atm, and being "tested"
[06:03] <bfrog> whats there to test
[06:03] <bfrog> a) go to youtube
[06:03] <bfrog> b) do it in the various browsers
[06:03] <bfrog> works!
[06:03] <bfrog> takes 10min
[06:03] <bfrog> seriously, wtf's the problem
[06:03] <jussi01> bfrog: that it works, there are no bugs etc.
[06:04] <bfrog> ...
[06:04] <bfrog> I think the bigger bug is not having the ability to *install* it
[06:04] <hydrogen> the amount of code required to make it work requires that it get tested pretty throughly
[06:04] <jussi01> bfrog: not everyones system is the same, and if you want it, just enable -proposed!
[06:05] <hydrogen> bfrog: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3162
[06:06] <otc> Hi all
[06:06] <jussi01> !hi | otc
[06:06] <ubotu> otc: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:07] <otc> I've got a problem with my sound
[06:07] <otc> on laptop
[06:07] <bfrog> hydrogen: thats a more likely issue then
[06:07] <bfrog> yeah I had it on arch and it definitely crashed konqueror
[06:07] <Tuari> how do I disable the touchpad click function?
[06:08] <jussi01> otc: please tellus which sound card?
[06:08] <otc> don know exactly, maybe avrack
[06:08] <otc> integrated sound card
[06:10] <jussi01> !sound | otc
[06:10] <ubotu> otc: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:10] <zetheroo> how do I enable writing to an NTFS portable hard drive in Kubuntu?
[06:11] <jussi01> !ntfs | zetheroo
[06:11] <ubotu> zetheroo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:11] <sub[t]rnl> !ntfs-3g | zetheroo
[06:11] <ubotu> zetheroo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:11] <otc> I 've had the same problem on my Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10
[06:11] <otc> the sound card works
[06:11] <zetheroo> I have that installed
[06:11] <zetheroo> already
[06:11] <otc> i can hear sound from the front speakers
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /mnt/point
[06:13] <otc> but when i plug my headphones i can hear the sound from the front speakers but not from headphones
[06:13] <otc> laptop Acer aspire 3682
[06:13] <fortruth> hello, where is the qt include and qt lib in kubuntu
[06:13] <sub[t]rnl> otcŌ×£ have you looked at 	alsamixer	 to see if anything is muted?
[06:14] <sub[t]rnl> fortruthŌ×£ /usr/include/qt* and /usr/lib/qt*
[06:15] <otc> yes i have looked :)
[06:15] <otc> i tried to google the problem about half a year ago
[06:16] <epimeth> okay... lets try this again... anybody using a vpn? specifically, vpnc?
[06:16] <otc> and i've found out that this is a common problem
[06:16] <otc> something is wrong with ubuntus
[06:16] <sub[t]rnl> you have sound.. but your headphones don't work
[06:17] <otc> yes
[06:17] <jcgkffycs> any one know of an application that can find text in an image and convert it to text in a text document/
[06:17] <jcgkffycs> ?
[06:17] <Daisuke_Ido> jcgkffycs: OCR?
[06:18] <otc> actually everything was ok when i've been using windows xp
[06:19] <fortruth> sub[t]rnl Thank you , and in my /usr/lib/qt* , There are qt3 and qt4 which only include a plugins, it's all right ?
[06:19] <zetheroo> whats the gui for ntfs-3g in kubuntu?
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> ntfs-config
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> fortruthŌ×£ yup
[06:20] <ahmos> !Beryl
[06:20] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:21] <ahmos> !compiz
[06:21] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:23] <epimeth> anybody using a vpn? specifically, vpnc?
[06:23] <fortruth> sub[t]rnl but when i complie a qt program with qt include and lib like this " g++ -o qt1 qt1.cpp -I /usr/include/qt4/ -L /usr/lib/qt4", It doesn't work.!
[06:29] <eatThisAndDie> guys, i've asked this question here before, but how do i reset the KDM login box to default? I've changed it somehow and now it's less than attractive :(
[06:31] <sub[t]rnl> eatThisAndDieŌ×£ alt + f2 kcontrol -> System administration -> KDM Theme manager
[06:32] <tomasko> hi, what's a package i can install to record my screen in KDE?
[06:32] <jussi01> !info krecordmydesktop | tomasko
[06:32] <ubotu> tomasko: krecordmydesktop (source: krecordmydesktop): kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB
[06:32] <tomasko> okay, cool
[06:42] <ahmos> hello
[06:43] <ere4si> !hi ahmos
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi ahmos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <ahmos> I've installed ksensors but it dosn't detect any sensors?!!
[06:43] <ahmos> hi ere4si
[06:44] <ere4si> does your board have sensors - not all do?
[06:44] <ahmos> yes ofcourse (gigabyte ga-p31-ds3l)
[06:45] <jussi01> !hi | ere4si
[06:45] <ubotu> ere4si: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:45] <jussi01> ;)
[06:45] <ere4si> tnks jussi01 :)
[06:45] <jussi01> :)
[06:46] <ahmos> by the way i'm using x64 os
[06:46] <ere4si> ahhh
[06:46] <ere4si> that's still immature from what I've read
[06:49] <ahmos> so is taht x64 problems
[06:49] <ahmos> that
[06:53] <ere4si> from what I've read yep - people get recommended to use the 32bit os until the 64 gets more support - e.g. ksensors might only be a 32bit app
[06:59] <ahmos> thank u very much
[07:00] <ere4si> k
[07:19] <h3rn4n> hi
[07:19] <h3rn4n> somebody want's to talk?
[07:23] <jussi01> h3rn4n: whats up?
[07:28] <LamerMan> hi everyone! where is the setting for kmail to check the mail automatically every X minutes?
[07:28] <LamerMan> i looked for it in settings but could nor fing it yet
[07:31] <LamerMan> i've found it in google, thanks, no more help is needed :)
[07:32] <kkathman> Can somone please tell me why after a recent ipgrade the icons in panel setting is all screwed up?
[07:33] <kkathman> is this a KDE issue or a kubuntu issue (I know the anser to this already)
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> then why are you even asking
[07:33] <kkathman> well because I thought someone here might know - my mistake
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ...but you just said you already knew the answer
[07:34] <kkathman> its a kubuntu issues as this doesn happen with other distros, obviously
[07:34] <kkathman> just wondered if you or some other guru might know how to fix the problem Daisuke_Ido
[07:34] <kkathman> do you?
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i have no idea
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't use kde
[07:35] <kkathman> well there we go- I didnt really expect any help :)
[07:54] <chabal> gnome FTW!!!!
[07:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and there was no reason for that besides a willful attempt to disrupt a perfectly peaceful channel
[08:04] <chenzhao> how can I input Chinese
[08:06] <f00f> chenzhao: uim-pinyin
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> ls
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> miss
[08:21] <harmental> hey guys....is the peerguardian plugin for ktorrent a safe choice for anonymizing my inocent downloads?
[08:22] <harmental> also..is there a moblock plugin?
[08:24] <ross> anyone here?
[08:25] <ross> hi eisho_has
[08:25] <ross> Is this where a newbie should be, when seeking advice with MonoDevelop?
[08:26] <ross> Am I actually in a chat room?
[08:26] <ross> Hello out there...
[08:27] <ross> Is there anybody in there?
[08:27] <f00f> ross: what's up?
[08:27] <ross> I'm trying to figure my way around this irc, so I can find help when I need it
[08:28] <ross> Have you been using ubuntu long, foof?
[08:28] <f00f> ross: not very long, but I've been a linux user for years... what issue are you having with monodevelop?
[08:29] <ross> I'm trying to use the MySql.NET.dll libraries, and all of the examples are "usinging System.Data"....I can't find System.Data
[08:30] <ross> sorry, should have been MySql.Data.dll
[08:32] <f00f> ross: hmm.. you can check on the mono website and see if mono has System.Data
[08:32] <ross> I found the Channel list...that should get me closer to where I need to be....
[08:32] <f00f> they have a list of all classes there
[08:32] <f00f> ##mono is what you're looking for
[08:33] <ross> Thanks a lot foof--I appreciate that.  I have been digging there...
[08:34] <ross> I'm having a little trouble digging up the channel list here--I'm really new to irc
[08:34] <ross> I keep getting 4000+ channels, 0 shown
[08:35] <f00f> ross: the channel list will be huge.. you can usually find which channel you need at the website or just #whatevertopicyouwant
[08:35] <f00f> and about 90% of the time you'll find the channel you need
[08:36] <ross> Thanks a lot foof--which website are you talking about?
[08:37] <f00f> ross: whatever program you're using, they'll have info about a support channel.
[08:37] <ross> ok, I think I found it
[08:37] <ross> foof: Thanks a lot, I think I'm making progress :)
[08:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am getting really angry with the developers.
[08:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't change any of the themes for KDM or the KDE splash themes since I upgraded to gutsy.  What gives?
[08:39] <ross> foof: do you have any opinions as to the *easiest* irc software to use in linux?
[08:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> If it isn't broken, then don't fix it!
[08:40] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: would we ever see any progress though?
[08:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I change the kde splash theme?
[08:41] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: not sure....might be in settings...I'm a newbie myself
[08:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> ross: not at the expense of usability.  If I wanted to be restricted in how I can personalize my desktop enviroment, then I would have stayed with Windows!
[08:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> and kept that ugly damn green start button.
[08:42] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I'm recently converted from windows too...I love that I made the move
[08:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have been using linux for a while.  Changed from slackware to red hat to suse to gentoo to kubuntu.
[08:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> Everything was wonderful until Gutsy came along.
[08:43] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I switched from windows to Gentoo, installed that a few times, and now I'm hooked on ubuntu
[08:44] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I really like my current installation
[08:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> I still like gentoo.  As a server, as a desktop I prefer kubuntu.
[08:45] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: Gentoo is more work than I want, I just want to do things, not be in setup-mode all the time
[08:45] <jussi01> !ot
[08:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:45] <Olgem> Gentoo has the best distro-specific documentation available
[08:45] <Olgem> Oh, sorry
[08:45] <ross> ubotu: where would I go for assistance with monodevelop?
[08:46] <Olgem> Ubotu is a bot
[08:46] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[08:47] <ross> join #mono
[08:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> ross: I just like that I set up my server back in Oct '04 and they have been running since then w/o any hitches or problems.
[08:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> I can't rebuke that reliability.
[08:49] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: no kidding, that is amazing
[08:50] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I give myself a pat on the back if I go a few days without rebooting
[08:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> Kubuntu detected every part of my HP DV6400 laptop including the remote control w/o me having to configure anything.
[08:51] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I found it very easy to install and setup as well...
[08:51] <ross> gundam_rx78nt1: I'm really enjoying ubuntu
[08:58] <f00f> gundam_rx78nt1: kubuntu also does this: I plugged in my hard drive to an older PC when my last desktop died, booted it up and it configured itself to that machine
[08:59] <ahmos> hi,how i can auto hide the kasbar?
[09:00] <ahmos> !kasbar
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <f00f> you can't hand the kasbar, but you can rock it ;)
[09:02] <ahmos> :)
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> ahmos: right click on the task bar and select configure panel
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> select hiding and look through there.
[09:14] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know how to configure the kde splash screen in kubuntu Gutsy?
[09:16] <yasahiro> .... im beginning to have a few complaints with kubuntu linux... firstly.. sauerbraten crashes... or at least freezes for about 10 seconds... :(
[09:16] <yasahiro> i cant run epsxe at all...
[09:17] <yasahiro> and the sheer availablility of windows games is driving me nuts >_<
[09:17] <Carnage\> yasahiro: wtf is sauerbraten? :)
[09:17] <yasahiro> sauerbraten.org
[09:17] <yasahiro> its a fps
[09:18] <yasahiro> first person shooter
[09:18] <romunov_> perhaps it's your browser...
[09:18] <Carnage\> Ah
[09:18] <romunov_> oh, a game
[09:18] <Carnage\> I love Sauerbraten, but yet only the German meal :)
[09:19] <yasahiro> its driving me nuts :(
[09:19] <romunov_> you should see a doctor
[09:19] <romunov_> if you're going nuts over a game
[09:19] <yasahiro> but i dont want to switch back to windows... cuz i have tons of complaints with that
[09:19] <romunov_> (assuming it's not your profession to play the game)
[09:19] <romunov_> see the forums if othre people have had a similar experience
[09:20] <romunov_> my openarena crashes as well
[09:20] <romunov_> but i haven't found the time to fix it yet
[09:20] <romunov_> got it from the repositories, so it should be the latest stable version
[09:20] <ahmed> hi everybody i intalled kalmAV & i want to enaple autoscan it say u need to load model dazuko when i said ok load i get the message u can not load dazuko successfull
[09:25] <sigma_1234> can the gnome network manager run in kubuntu?
[09:26] <romunov> afaik, yes
[09:26] <shiver> is a good quastion
[09:26] <romunov> as long as it has all the packages it needs?
[09:26] <shiver> i don'tt realy know sigma_1234
[09:27] <shiver> instal ubuntu:P
[09:27] <sigma_1234> because the kde one is useless with wireless networks
[09:27] <sigma_1234> but i want kde
[09:27] <romunov> gnome stuff should work on kde as well
[09:29] <romunov> i have a "problem" with evolution mail. the messages are being downloded really slowly - 2 seconds per regular email. It used to download (in thunderbird) a 100 in a few seconds.
[09:36] <djdarkman> hello, I`m having trouble with laptop mode, how can I disable it? I don`t want it, it occures when it shouldn`t, disables DMA on my harddisk, makes my system to freeze and corrupts my filesystem
[09:43] <Thecks> Anybody know estimated release of Hardy?
[09:44] <neville> April?
[09:44] <Daviey> Thecks: 8.04 = 2008 April
[09:44] <Daviey> 04th month
[09:44] <Thecks> Eep.. damn..
[09:44] <Thecks> Thanks :)
[09:44] <Daviey> np
[09:45]  * Daviey cuddles time based releases
[09:47] <ScorpKing> !mp3 > me
[09:47] <ScorpKing> what package do i need to play mp3's again?
[09:47] <romunov> in amarok?
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> !mp3
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <eatThisAndDie> VLC works fine too
[09:50] <eatThisAndDie> smaller footprint too i believe.
[09:54] <Mediapirate> wow a room with no ops
[09:55] <neville> So?
[09:55] <Mediapirate> surely that means no rules
[09:57] <pag> Mediapirate, nope. we *do* have rules. so please behave. ;)
[09:57] <neville> Yeah, it's not like some crappy Fastest Possible no rules game in Starcraft :P
[09:57] <romunov> just cuz there are no cops, that doesn't mean you can go messing around
[09:58] <Mediapirate> haha didn't think i'd done anything wrong
[10:00] <Mediapirate> wb root
[10:00] <ubuntu> how do i find out which hd a drive is?
[10:01] <ubuntu> if it's sdc would that mean it's hd2?
[10:01] <Mediapirate> Which is the best software for organising music with?
[10:01] <Mediapirate> and prefferably to put stuff onto my ipod with?
[10:01] <ubuntu> amarok
[10:01] <ScorpKing> heh. sorry, i was on the phone
[10:02] <ScorpKing> romunov: amarok yes
[10:02] <Mediapirate> thanks ubuntu
[10:02] <ubuntu> no problem
[10:03] <Peng> Mediapirate: In many channels on Freenode, the ops only op themselves when they need to. So there might still be some around.
[10:03] <ScorpKing> is this the one libavcodec1d ?
[10:03] <Mediapirate> oh ok....don't worry I wasn't planning on doing anything just wondering
[10:04] <Peng> Mediapirate: (It's even recommended in Freenode's FAQ.)
[10:04] <ubuntu> does sdc = hd2?
[10:04] <ubuntu> generally
[10:04] <ScorpKing> scd?
[10:04] <ubuntu> in the dev folder
[10:04] <Mediapirate> Ok thanks Peng
[10:05] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: that's usually sda/b/c/d for disks
[10:05] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: so sdc will be the secondary master
[10:06] <ubuntu> so if i have a grub already installed on hd0 and sdc is a removable storage drive, would this be bootable on another machine?
[10:06] <ScorpKing> i can play mp3's but i don't have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> ScorpKing: on Kubuntu you should install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:07] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: hd0 means the first disk as far as i know
[10:08] <ubuntu> so hd2 should be sdc regardless of partitions?
[10:08] <ScorpKing> rysiek|pl: yeah but i'm trying to figure out how i play mp3's if i don't have it installed
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> ScorpKing: besides, those are only "metapackages", i.e. they just pull the needed packages (with codecs, flash, etc) from the repo
[10:08] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: yep
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> ScorpKing: they don't, by themselves, install the codecs, they just have the packages with codecs in their dependancies
[10:09] <ScorpKing> rysiek|pl: ok i see. so it must be this one then libavcodec1d ?
[10:09] <ubuntu>  so if i put a grub on hd2 (as well as there being one on hd0) will this mess up the boot?
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> ScorpKing: possibly, yeah; just aptitude show kubuntu-restricted-extras and look on dependancies
[10:10] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: if you have 2 bootable disks the bios will decide what gets booted first
[10:10] <ubuntu> great, thanks :)
[10:10] <ScorpKing> rysiek|pl: hehe. i forgot about that one. thanks :)
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> ScorpKing: you're welcome :)
[10:12] <ScorpKing> do i need w32codecs as well? once again i don't have it installed but can play anything. :)
[10:14] <ScorpKing> kubuntu-restricted-extras has flash and java as well. hehe. my flash and java is working so i'll rather leave it alone for now
[10:15] <ScorpKing> i need to go work. cheers guys.
[10:18] <blizzzek> hi
[10:25] <Mediapirate> How do I mount my Ipod using Amarok?
[10:25] <Mediapirate> What command do I use?
[10:26] <Mediapirate> Hi LinaLove
[10:26] <LinaLove> Hey :]
[10:27] <Lynoure> Mediapirate: I don't have an ipod, but maybe this will help: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[10:27] <Mediapirate> Thanks Lynoure
[10:34] <Mediapirate> who won the superbowl?
[10:36] <Mediapirate> any americans online?
[10:37] <jussi01> Mediapirate: do you not have internet?
[10:39] <eatThisAndDie> LOL
[10:39] <Mediapirate> lmao
[10:39] <Mediapirate> sorry just thought it was a bit dull in here
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> The Giants won.
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> I watched it, but I'm still not sure why
[10:39] <Mediapirate> haha
[10:39] <jussi01> !ot
[10:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> ja, ja.
[10:49] <Mediapirate> I'm off bye
[11:05] <jhend60> hi everyone
[11:06] <jhend60> i was wondering if there was any way to transfer packages from windows to a cd and then install them on kubuntu
[11:06] <jhend60> by first downloading on windows
[11:08] <jussi01> !aptoncd
[11:08] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[11:08] <jussi01> hmmm, no
[11:09] <jussi01> jhend60: you can, but its annoyin because of dependancies
[11:10] <ahmed> hi i download latest version of dazuko-source_2.3.3-1_all.deb and after install it i run the command sudo m-a a-i dazuko  and here is what i got in step 2
[11:10] <ahmed> module-assistant, interactive mode Ōö£ŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöĆŌöÉ
[11:10] <ahmed>        Ōöé Build of the package dazuko-source failed! How do you wish    Ōöé
[11:10] <ahmed>        Ōöé to proceed?
[11:10] <jhend60> ok dependencies.. but is there any way?
[11:11] <jhend60> im trying to get wesnoth-all
[11:13] <jussi01> jhend60: download the package, and the dependancies, copy them to cd, then sudo dpkg -i package name on the new sys
[11:16] <jhend60> ok thanks but there are many dependencies how do i get them all on windows? is there a tool>
[11:18] <jussi01> jhend60: sigh... you sure you can get internet on the box?
[11:19] <jhend60> i possibly could but it would be ALOT easier as it is not my pc (the one with linux)
[11:22] <jussi01> jhend60: it would make things a lot easier...
[11:23] <jhend60> yeah i will just try to get internet on the other pc
[11:24] <jussi01> :)
[11:24] <jhend60> linux is makin me a bit angry...
[11:24] <jussi01> jhend60: if you had access to another ubuntu pc, it would be different, then you could use aptoncd
[11:24] <jhend60> yeah
[11:25] <jhend60> i could use virtual pc (free) but its too big too downlaod
[11:25] <jhend60> (for me)
[11:39] <basti> question about krusader: i have some dirs that start with "-=". i want these to show up first, when sorted by name. how can i do this? i cant find the option for that. thanks!
[12:00] <atrox_experte> hi, wie hei├¤t nommel kurz der befehl um einen benutzer eine gruppe zu zuweisen?
[12:01] <Mediapirate> hello atrox_experte
[12:01] <basti> atrox_experte: #ubuntu.de
[12:02] <jussi01> !de | atrox_experte
[12:02] <ubotu> atrox_experte: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <atrox_experte> Oh, sorry
[12:03] <redear> thankies
[12:04] <Mediapirate> Haben einen guten Tag Freund
[12:06] <Mediapirate> atrox_experte: Verabschieden
[12:07] <lubos_> I'm about to add pdf printer to use with KDE but I can not find manufacturer ( generic ) in the printer model selection menu. If fact there is nothing at all..any help please..thanks
[12:09] <thanasi_> lubos_: it should be added by default
[12:10] <atrox_experte> Mediapirate: Auf Wiedersehen (See you)
[12:10] <lubos_> thanasi_: its empty..
[12:10] <lubos_> thanasi_: I have this minimal net instalation..
[12:11] <lubos_> thanasi_: I'm missing some packages but do not have aclue which.. cups-pdf is there
[12:11] <vma> hi
[12:11] <thanasi_> lubos_: not sure what to do then
[12:28] <Whitman> I've just booted a kubuntu 7.10 desktop cd and only the bottom right quarter of the screen is shown in the top left quarter of the monitor.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Thats weird. what video card you have?
[12:31] <Mediapirate> strange
[12:32] <Whitman> Not sure, it's a spare machine that I'm just trying.  Booting in safe graphics mode now.
[12:47] <galathalion> anyone help me with tv-out pls?
[12:57]  * Whitman embarks on a long and arduous install of kubuntu + kde4 on a p3 900
[12:58] <ahmos> Hi..I need some help please..!
[13:00] <ahmos> after update there is some packages broken and mixer can't be found..any help
[13:01] <ahmos> !broken packages
[13:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken packages - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:01] <jussi01> ahmos: try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:02] <ahmos> !packages crach
[13:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packages crach - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:02] <ahmos> ok
[13:02] <lennaert> kubuntu pwnt
[13:04] <ahmos> !past
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <ahmos> !pastbien
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbien - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> It pays to spell correctly. :)
[13:06] <ahmos> ok jussi01:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54712/
[13:06] <ahmos> hi Dr
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> About time to get some sleep here. :(
[13:07] <ahmos> :D
[13:08] <ahmos> some help :)
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54712/  lets see
[13:08] <noaXess> any idea, why my filemanager shows this Rücken instead of R├╝cken?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> next time put a space befor the http: :) so i cn click on the link heh
[13:08] <noaXess> i us dolphin unde 7.10
[13:09] <noaXess> d3lphin .)
[13:09] <noaXess> hi Dr_Willis
[13:09] <ahmos> ok
[13:09] <noaXess> and all others :)
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> rcken?
[13:09] <noaXess> your back..
[13:09] <noaXess> Dr_Willis: there are two [] between R and c
[13:09] <noaXess> wait..
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Looks like the openoffice package that got downloaded was currupted to me ahmos
[13:10] <ahmos> yes,so any ideas Dr
[13:10] <Ramla> noaXess: the filename is encoded in some other character set than what you are using in ubuntu. Do all ubuntu installations use utf-8 by default?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> remove it.  remove it from the cache. perhaps enable a different repository for it.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> could be it was just a bad download that one time.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> you may just need to remove it from the cache
[13:11] <ahmos> ok i will try this
[13:12] <noaXess> Ramla: see here.. http://files.wmx.ch/upload/jpg/70_snapshot3.jpg
[13:12] <noaXess> Ramla: that are files, that i have copied fomr a windows box to my kubuntu
[13:13] <Ramla> Yeah, windows doesn't use utf-8 (at least by default) so those filenames are just encoded in a different character set. I think there are conversion tools available if you want to get rid of all broken filenames
[13:13] <ahmos> it can't remove it too :D ha ha
[13:16] <Dr_Willis>  it should be in /var/cache/apt somewhere. You will need root access to remove it.
[13:19] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[13:24] <djdarkman> how can I dell dpkg to remove a pagacke even  if it`s list is corrupted?
[13:24] <djdarkman>  files list file for package `frostwire' contains empty filename
[13:27] <sveri> noaXess: are these files on a mounted fat32 partition?
[13:27] <noaXess> sveri: no. on my ext3 standard kubuntu filesys..
[13:27] <noaXess> the same problem i have.. if i moutn a network share..
[13:28] <sveri> noaXess: did you copy them from a fat32 partition?
[13:28] <noaXess> but in this case i can moutn the share with iso-8859-1 and it worked.
[13:28] <noaXess> sveri: from a ntfs..
[13:29] <sveri> noaXess: i had these problems too, iirc i mounted the partitions with iso-8859-1 option and copied them to my ext partition
[13:29] <noaXess> sveri:  hm. then.. i need to change to chars.. if i see them.. cause i can't recopy them..
[13:29] <ollle> i downloaded the source code for a couple of kde packages from ubuntus repositories. kdebase and kdelibs.
[13:30] <ollle> i tried mayn times to build it but there was always some error left to fix. errors that seemed to be inside the packages themselves, not the dependencies
[13:31] <ollle> missing misc files, missing .desktop files, missing Kfoobar.h include files etc etc
[13:31] <ollle> is this something you recognize?
[13:32] <sveri> noaXess: iconv can convert characters in files from iso to utf8 maybe you find something that does the same only for the filenames
[13:32] <VampireKing> why the firefox frozes when flash is open ?
[13:32] <noaXess> sveri: no prob.. i will change manually.. on work :)
[13:32] <mzolisi> I HAVE THE SAME FRIGGIN PROBLEM
[13:33] <mzolisi> @VampireKing
[13:33] <sveri> noaXess: *hrhr good solution
[13:33] <jussi01> !fffc
[13:33] <ubotu> If Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )
[13:33] <noaXess> sveri: :)
[13:33] <RaRuM> can someone help me to connect @ quakenet?
[13:33] <noaXess> sveri: are you german?
[13:33] <sveri> wow ubotu really knows a lot of things
[13:33] <noaXess> RaRuM: ??
[13:33] <sveri> noaXess: yes, i am
[13:34] <noaXess> sveri: dann ist ja alles klar, von wegen ├ż├Č├╝ :)
[13:34] <sveri> noaXess: hehe, genau, immer der aerger, bloedes windows :D
[13:34] <ollle> ├ź├ż├Č!
[13:34] <djdarkman> can someone tell me how do I tell dpkg to remove a package from the list even if the list is corrupted?
[13:34] <ollle> :)
[13:34] <djdarkman> Reading database ... dpkg: error processing frostwire (--remove):
[13:34] <djdarkman>  files list file for package `frostwire' contains empty filename
[13:34] <djdarkman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:34] <djdarkman>  frostwire
[13:34] <djdarkman> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[13:34] <jussi01> !paste | djdarkman
[13:34] <ubotu> djdarkman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:34] <RaRuM> someone can tell me how to connect at quakenet plz?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> RaRuM,irc.quakenet.org or com or .net
[13:35] <RaRuM> i get error
[13:36] <RaRuM> i lose conection
[13:36] <BluesKaj> well, RaRuM, this is a kubuntu help room, not an irc help room
[13:36] <RaRuM> i'm new at this
[13:36] <RaRuM> so im lost
[13:36] <RaRuM> if someone can help me = ty
[13:37] <RaRuM> i get this cant connect to irc.quakenet.net:6667
[13:37] <BluesKaj> go to the quakenet site on the www.quakenet.com
[13:42] <ahmos> how I can make c compiler creat executables?!
[13:43] <Pici> !b-e | ahmos
[13:43] <ubotu> ahmos: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[13:44] <kalorin`> http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35906/98/
[13:44] <kalorin`> oh oh adaclam is right!?
[13:45] <jpatrick> !ot | kalorin`
[13:45] <ubotu> kalorin`: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:45] <kalorin`> doh it switched channels on me when I logged in
[13:45] <kalorin`> sorry
[14:12] <IS> hi
[14:12] <ubuntu> hi all
[14:14] <IS> who likes futurama?
[14:14] <IS> i think its funny
[14:14] <appelza> kiss my shiney metal ass
[14:14] <appelza> shiny :(
[14:14] <Pici> !ot
[14:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:14] <IS> lol
[14:14] <IS> yeah robots funny
[14:15] <IS> i wsi i had a storage compartment
[14:15] <IS> *wish
[14:16] <IS> home home on the range
[14:17] <IS> where the deer and the antilope play...
[14:17] <IS> do you like doison the band?/
[14:18] <IS> "every rose has it's thorns"
[14:18] <IS> un-skinney bob
[14:18] <IS> lol ohh yes i love the 70-80 music
[14:20] <IS> mooo...
[14:22] <no0tic> !ot | IS
[14:22] <ubotu> IS: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:22] <IS> ....i.m thinking of a number between 0-100...
[14:23] <IS> 52 is right
[14:23] <IS> congradulations
[14:25] <IS> i wasn't alone
[14:26] <mark2> i've installed kubuntu onto a pendrive and added it to the mbr on vista yet when i select kubuntu from the boot menu it takes me to like a terminal screen with grub on
[14:26] <mark2> how do i get it to load my install?
[14:27] <IS> un zipped
[14:27] <mark2> i've tried the find /boot/grub/stage1 thing but it does not find it
[14:28] <IS> if u uaed a pen drive to save it on
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> sounds like it's either looking in the wrong place or it's not able to access the pen drive.
[14:28] <IS> im sorry?
[14:29] <mark2> i inserted the pen drive into a pc removing all the cables for the hard drive and o get the grub error2, but when using the live cd to boot from first disk it works finwe
[14:30] <SlimeyPete> mark2: when you say "added it to the mbr on vista" do you mean you put it onto the mbr on your hard disk?
[14:31] <mark2> i think so, i used easyBCD, that was on my laptop though
[14:31] <IS> download a new one and try again with new kernel?
[14:31] <mark2> i have not written the grub to the mbr on the pc as there were no drives connected
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> ah right, just wondered.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> mark2,easy BCD is the way to go with vista and linux , on any computer
[14:32] <mark2> it added the neosmart thing
[14:32] <mark2> i've booted up vista again and this time it's let me add the grub from the usb drive
[14:33] <IS> cool
[14:35] <mark3> i've added the drive with the grub installed and now its not comming up on the boot menu
[14:39] <mark3> the grub's on the native partition not the swap isn't it?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> swap should be on the end of the linux partiiton, if you made one
[14:41] <llutz> grr, anybody syncing google-calendar with korganizer using kitchensync/opensync with gutsy _without_ kdepim crashing? :(
[14:41] <mark3> do i select "grub isn't on the bootsector"?
[14:43] <mark3> is the "bootsector" refering to the mbr on the first drive?
[14:43] <Gowmsy> by mistake my "audio" group was deleted..
[14:43] <Gowmsy> how to add it again
[14:43] <Gowmsy> anyone help
[14:46] <mark3> now i get "can not load from hard disk <br> insert systemdisk and press any key"
[14:47] <Gowmsy> my "audio" group was deleted by mistake...how to add it again..anyone help
[14:49] <mark3> is there a way to boot from second disk using a live cd?
[14:58] <enzo44> i don't understand, i have a laptop with another monitor connected to it, with nvidia driver
[14:59] <enzo44> i have  a good xorg.conf for dual screen, but when i switch my laptop, layout is on my monitor (extended one)
[14:59] <enzo44> if i go on monitor & display, i can't select second screen
[15:13] <payan> i want to know how to install the software needed for JAVA development on KDE
[15:15] <BluesKaj> !java
[15:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:23] <odinsbane> so you dropped the whole kde4 bit?
[15:23] <odinsbane> Or you just wanted to separate the channels
[15:25] <matyk2008> hey
[15:25] <matyk2008> can anyone help me fix a dual montoir problem?
[15:25] <matyk2008> in kubuntu
[15:26] <matyk2008> the problem is i cant get it to work lol, it just clones
[15:26] <sub[t]rnl> matyk2008Ō×£ what video card?
[15:27] <matyk2008> ati radeion 9600
[15:27] <matyk2008> i also get this error http://mathewkeeton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pics/snapshot1.png when trying to change the config
[15:28] <sub[t]rnl> you'll need to create two instances of your screen, monitor, and device sections in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf   Then in the Serverlayout section, you'll define the orientation of the monitors
[15:29] <matyk2008> i have tried this, it failed... i read on the internet i have to add another virtual devices but it wasnt very well explined
[15:31] <matyk2008> ...lol it appeards i dont have a xorg.conf
[15:31] <matyk2008> theres a xorg.conf.1
[15:31] <matyk2008> and xorg.conf.2
[15:32] <sub[t]rnl> matyk2008Ō×£ heres a working xorg.conf using an ati video card.  Use it as a guide to setting up yours. http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf
[15:32] <matyk2008> this would exaplain the error i get showed in the screenshot amiright
[15:33] <ForgeAus> hmm how can I install feisty to my Kubuntu partition witout removing all the files I have already on it?
[15:33] <ForgeAus> I have the live CD but if I install it it will wipe all I had on it right?
[15:33] <ForgeAus> (ie my downloads, and stuff)
[15:34] <sub[t]rnl> are you upgrading or trying to reinstall or something
[15:34] <ForgeAus> well my current kubuntu doesn't work
[15:34] <ForgeAus> I never really recovered from loosing the /etc folder
[15:34] <sub[t]rnl> what doesn't work about it, maybe its something we can iron out
[15:34] <ForgeAus> tried a few things didn't quite know how to fix the issues I come across tho
[15:35] <ForgeAus> well X-server for one, seems to also have lost fglxr (sp?)
[15:35] <basti> i have some dirs that start with "-=". i want these to show up first, when sorted by name. how can i do this? i cant find the option for that. thanks!
[15:36] <basti> krusader ^
[15:36] <ForgeAus> also no network
[15:36] <ForgeAus> so I can't just use apt-get to reinstall stuff
[15:36] <sub[t]rnl> you can re-install the kubuntu-desktop meta package, if thats the route you want to take
[15:36] <basti> sure
[15:37] <sub[t]rnl> that was to ForgeAus
[15:37] <matyk2008> err i cant get into configure display it says its already open but it aint...
[15:37] <ForgeAus> how sub? can I do that from the LiveCD?
[15:37] <matyk2008> how i fix this
[15:37] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAusŌ×£ from the repo's
[15:37] <ForgeAus> no network = no repos
[15:37] <ForgeAus> or rather no access to repos
[15:38] <ForgeAus> how exactly does ubiquity install anyway?
[15:38] <ForgeAus> does it build onto the drive from an image?
[15:38] <sub[t]rnl> you could archive the data you want to keep to another partition. then reinstall
[15:38] <Mediapirate> woooop
[15:39] <Mediapirate> i finally found something to compare to exact audio copy
[15:39] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAusŌ×£ not sure, never used ubiquity
[15:39] <ForgeAus> yeah sub, only that I don't have enough drivespace to store backups on other partitions
[15:39] <Mediapirate> Rubyripper
[15:39] <ForgeAus> otherwise I would have done that before
[15:39] <ForgeAus> sub sure you have
[15:39] <ForgeAus> kubuntu installer = ubiquity
[15:39] <sub[t]rnl> just the livecd?
[15:39] <ForgeAus> the LiveCD uses it anyway, the gui installer
[15:39]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[15:39] <ForgeAus> but I don't know if the other text mode kubuntu install is ubiquity or not (prolly not I guess)
[15:41] <ForgeAus> if jocato was here he'd probably know how it works
[15:41] <sub[t]rnl> sounds kind of drastic though..
[15:41] <sub[t]rnl> what video card? ati?
[15:41] <ForgeAus> what does?
[15:42] <ForgeAus> yeah radeon 9600 all in one
[15:42] <ForgeAus> AGP
[15:42] <ForgeAus> (8x)
[15:42] <llutz>  anybody syncing google-calendar with korganizer using kitchensync/opensync with gutsy _without_ kdepim crashing?
[15:42] <sub[t]rnl> why not just reconfigure xserver to use the fglx driver?
[15:42] <sub[t]rnl> instead of reinstalling the entire system
[15:42] <ForgeAus> I tried that
[15:42] <ForgeAus> got lots of errors back
[15:42] <matyk2008> i also hace a radeon 9600 lol
[15:42] <matyk2008> *have
[15:42] <sub[t]rnl> pastebin them
[15:42] <ForgeAus> it seems like it couldn't find the fglxr .so files
[15:43] <ForgeAus> so I tried apt-get install  to reinstall them but no network
[15:43] <ForgeAus> at that point I basically just gave up
[15:43]  * ScorpKing waves
[15:43] <ForgeAus> um I have to exit windows but I'll come back sometime after I save them to a
[15:43] <sub[t]rnl> get the errors and we can probably fix it.
[15:43] <ScorpKing> !flash
[15:43] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[15:43] <ForgeAus> text file
[15:43] <sub[t]rnl> if its just .so's, could be a broken sym link in your /usr/lib's
[15:44] <ScorpKing> hmm.. the flash package is in kubuntu-restricted-extras. should that not be added to that factoid?
[15:44] <ForgeAus> sub, probably more likely a missing /etc file that references where the .so's are
[15:45] <matyk2008> brb
[15:45] <ForgeAus> isn't restricted Formats/flash what you meant Scorp?
[15:45] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAusŌ×£ nothing like that in /etc/X11/
[15:46] <ForgeAus> sub yeah I figures that
[15:46] <ScorpKing> ForgeAus: i see now on one of the links from !restricted it's mentioned
[15:46] <ForgeAus> I think my /etc/X11 is ok, its somewhere else in /etc most likely
[15:46] <ForgeAus> thats all I know of that was damaged
[15:46] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAusŌ×£ well the problem is the xserver package, and thats where it looks
[15:46] <ForgeAus> afaik my /lib/* is ok
[15:46] <sub[t]rnl> not if your missing a .so
[15:46] <ForgeAus> I copied/rebuilt the /etc/X11 stuff I think I did that ok
[15:47] <ForgeAus> sub I'm guessing its not missing, just a reference to it is
[15:47] <sub[t]rnl> rebuilt the /etc/X11?
[15:47] <ForgeAus> yeah I found it in my lost+found
[15:47] <ForgeAus> that one still had its name (at least the /X11/ bit)
[15:48] <ForgeAus> (of course the directory it was under was just a string of numbers)
[15:49] <ForgeAus> I'll get a copy of the output from Xserver when I try and run it next and pastebin it for you if you want next time I try kubuntu
[15:49] <ForgeAus> but not tonight
[15:49] <ForgeAus> my XP is kinda busy with background tasks/dl's and stuff
[15:51] <djdarkman> hello, how can I nuke dpkg`s database to the base system?
[15:51] <ForgeAus> just delete the stuff from /var/cache/apt ???
[15:52] <ForgeAus> or is it /var/apt/cache one of them
[15:52] <ForgeAus> that removes all the packages you've d/l'd anyway
[15:52] <djdarkman> ForgeAus: I want to nuke dpkg`s database too
[15:52] <BluesKaj> don't nuke it , update the DB with the command ;sudo updatedb
[15:52] <ForgeAus> as to the database you can just restore it by updating your list
[15:53] <sub[t]rnl> or if your trying to clear your /var/cache/apt/archives use apt-get clean
[15:53] <djdarkman> no no, I meant the inst of the istalled aplications
[15:53] <djdarkman> *list
[15:53] <ForgeAus> Blues? isn't it something like sudo apt-get update ? I've never heard of udatedb :) nice shortcut if there is such a thing tho
[15:53] <ForgeAus> the list is the database that it gets from sources.list
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, it's, sudo updatedb
[15:53] <djdarkman> hmmm it worked
[15:54] <djdarkman> ohhh no
[15:54] <ForgeAus> so reset your sources.list to be the default and reupdate it
[15:54] <djdarkman> it didn`t
[15:54] <ForgeAus> what exactly is wrong dj?
[15:54] <ForgeAus> your finding packages in your list that shouldn't be there?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, I'm referring to the database not the sources.list
[15:54] <djdarkman> I have a corrupted packagees, and corrupted dpkg list, and I want to somehow re download all packages
[15:55] <ForgeAus> yeah Blues, but the database is built from the souces in sources.list
[15:55] <djdarkman> my IDE controler is malfunctioning
[15:55] <ForgeAus> (at least that was my point)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> djdarkman, use synaptic to fix broken pkges
[15:55] <sigma_1234> dj shouldnt u replace the motherboard?
[15:55] <ForgeAus> darkman yeah fix your sources.list and fix your broken packages
[15:55] <djdarkman> sigma_1234: it`s a laptop and I need to work with it...
[15:56] <BluesKaj> the database also includes compiled debs and otherpkges not listed in the source repositories
[15:56] <sigma_1234> but if the ide controller is faulty its going to be a recurring problem
[15:56] <djdarkman> sigma_1234: yes but it recurs in "just" on or two days
[15:57] <djdarkman> I just want to tell apt to re download all packagees and reistall them
[15:57] <benluo> hi
[15:57] <djdarkman> until I`ll have the time to put my machine in for repair this would be a greate help
[15:57] <sigma_1234> you should probably just format
[15:57] <djdarkman> sigma_1234: done that
[15:58] <BluesKaj> djdarkman,Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage  Repositories. Click the Kubuntu software tab,check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu
[15:58] <sigma_1234> id say get the mboard replaced asap
[15:58] <noaXess> my kaffeine won't play a dvd.. no plugin foudn to handle this source (dvd://), xine cannot find input plugin for MRL dvd://
[15:58] <noaXess> any idea?
[15:59] <noaXess> kaffeinie-xine is installed
[15:59] <noaXess> !dvd
[15:59] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:59] <sigma_1234> does kolab work properly on kubuntu?
[15:59] <ubuntu> bonsoir
[16:00] <feni23> anybody out there, who has experiences with the hda-via-82xx soundchipset?
[16:01] <Aris> est-ce que quelqu'un parle fran├¦ais et peut m'aider en mp ?
[16:01] <Pici> !fr | Aris
[16:01] <ubotu> Aris: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> feni23, in the terminal : cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:04] <BluesKaj> feni23, after finding the sound controller , then:  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[16:08] <ForgeAus> kubuntu's starting to turn into something closer to gnome :(
[16:08] <jpatrick> ForgeAus: ?
[16:08] <ForgeAus> Dolphin and changes to Adept to make it synaptic-like
[16:08] <jpatrick> ForgeAus: Dolphin (KDE4 version) is a app from KDE itself
[16:09] <jpatrick> ForgeAus: as for Adept version is in proce
[16:09] <stocki> hi
[16:09] <jpatrick> -ss*
[16:09] <ForgeAus> yeah jpatrick but its so muhc closer to nautilus than it is to Konqi
[16:09] <jpatrick> !hi | stocki
[16:09] <ubotu> stocki: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:09] <noaXess> !mrl
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mrl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:09] <jpatrick> ForgeAus: not our fault
[16:09] <ForgeAus> true jpatrick
[16:09] <ForgeAus> I'm just lamenting a little
[16:09] <ForgeAus> I liked how distinct edgy used to be
[16:10] <noaXess> anybody a hint, why i can't play a dvd?.. have read instructions for dvd and xine lib's are installed..
[16:10] <noaXess> kaffeine and xine can't play the dvd..
[16:10] <ForgeAus> noaXess do you have the DVD decoder packages?
[16:10] <ForgeAus> !DVD
[16:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:10] <BluesKaj> noaXess, install libdvdcss2
[16:11] <noaXess> ForgeAus and BluesKaj as i wrote.. i have read the instructions and done all this..
[16:12] <ForgeAus> well in that case I don't know anything that can help you noaXess
[16:12] <ForgeAus> it worked for me when I did that stuff
[16:12] <ForgeAus> maybe its the particular DVD your trying?
[16:12] <ForgeAus> or something about encryption?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> noaXess, did you actually install libdvdcss2 ?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> noaXess, if you did then, reboot
[16:14] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj yeah I know why your asking I mean he said he installed kaffeine, xine and xinelibs but didn't mention dvd libraries :)
[16:14] <noaXess> BluesKaj: one moment..
[16:15] <noaXess> libdvdcss2 is installed.. no reboot.
[16:15] <ForgeAus> if you havn't rebooted since you installed it I suggest you reboot
[16:15] <ForgeAus> I'm not saying it will fix, but it can only help
[16:16] <noaXess> ForgeAus: okay..
[16:17] <ForgeAus> I don't like rebooting either :) unless I absolutely have to I know how u feel
[16:17] <ForgeAus> whats worse is people tell me to do it at the most inopportune times
[16:17] <BluesKaj> sometimes the dvdrom needs rebooting , so...
[16:18] <ForgeAus> like ones where I wouldn't have minded so much if I didn't have a 300mb file downloading in the b/g thats halfway through or something
[16:20] <ForgeAus> I guess I could boot my Kubuntu in a VM and see what output I get running Xserver in there
[16:20] <ForgeAus> but thats not likely going to help since it doesn't use fglxr inside the VM
[16:20] <ForgeAus> does it?
[16:21] <payan> how can i disable an audio device???
[16:22] <ForgeAus> wb noaXess
[16:23] <noaXess> ForgeAus: no changes, after reboot..
[16:23] <ForgeAus> ok do you have any other DVD's to try it with?
[16:23] <noaXess> ForgeAus: i will try... wait..
[16:23] <ForgeAus> doy ou know if the one your trying has encryption or copy protection or something?
[16:25] <Matt_webber> hi
[16:25] <BluesKaj> noaXess, if it's a commercial dvd it should play , but you may need to use K9copy to burn it
[16:25] <ForgeAus> Blues I'd hope it plays but I'm not making any assumptions here
[16:26] <ScorpKing> hi BluesKaj :)
[16:26] <ForgeAus> since noaXess is saying his didn't, lets see if we can get one that does
[16:26] <BluesKaj> hi ScorpKing
[16:26] <ForgeAus> if not theres something else wrong and I don't think I can help any further
[16:26] <noaXess> ForgeAus: i think
[16:26] <noaXess> same
[16:26] <noaXess> way
[16:27] <ForgeAus> well unless BluesKaj or someone else has any better ideas I'm as lost as you are
[16:27] <slnoff> #ubuntu-ru
[16:27]  * ScorpKing catches on the conversation so far..
[16:28] <BluesKaj> noaXess, do cds play ?
[16:28] <noaXess> BluesKaj: jep
[16:28] <noaXess> i need to test another dvd..
[16:29] <Schuenemann> !chm[
[16:29] <Schuenemann> !chm
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm[ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: there's kchm
[16:30] <Schuenemann> thank
[16:30] <SlimeyPete> or xchm
[16:30] <Schuenemann> can't I convert it to a better format?
[16:30] <ForgeAus> probably
[16:31] <ScorpKing> there should be something to convert it to html but i'm not sure
[16:31] <ForgeAus> chm is mostly html like anyway
[16:31] <Schuenemann> just more stupid and MS
[16:31] <ForgeAus> basically html with an index
[16:31] <ScorpKing> noaXess: do you have w32codecs installed? and kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:32] <Schuenemann> there are some pages on google, I'll check
[16:32] <ForgeAus> lol Trav :)
[16:32] <TimS> Trav
[16:32] <ScorpKing> haha
[16:32] <ForgeAus> I had mIRC in crossover too :)
[16:32] <Schuenemann> I had mirc in wine
[16:33] <TimS> All version travkin :P
[16:33] <ForgeAus> crossover is wine ...
[16:33] <ForgeAus> with some extras
[16:33] <TimS> Konversation > * :P
[16:33] <ForgeAus> no directX tho
[16:33] <ForgeAus> or at least not to Cedega's calibre
[16:33] <ScorpKing> ForgeAus: so all crossover apps should run on wine as well?
[16:34] <ForgeAus> Scorp not sure I thought it was the reverse
[16:34] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[16:34] <ForgeAus> Crossover is Wine + extras, so all apps that work in  wine work in crossover, + a few more
[16:34] <ForgeAus> (its mostly optimized for Microsoft Office)
[16:35] <ForgeAus> not sure what does and doesn't work in it from what works in wine but I'd gather wine is less compatible than crossover
[16:35] <ScorpKing> yep, that's where crossover office comes from then
[16:35] <ForgeAus> plus it's handy that it installs stuff into the kmenu windows icons and all :)
[16:36] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, good point about w32codecs and kubuntu-restricted-extras...I just assumed noaXess had them installed.
[16:36] <alinon> is there an easy to speed up the scroll wheel?
[16:36] <noaXess> ScorpKing, BluesKaj: will try that..
[16:36] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i have another saying about assumptions :P hehe
[16:36] <ForgeAus> alinon I think you can configure it in kcontrol (or system-settings)
[16:36] <alinon> i tried system settings but the scroll wheel isn't listed there
[16:36] <ForgeAus> just up how many lines it scrolls to make it scroll quicker???
[16:37] <alinon> yes forgeaus
[16:37] <ForgeAus> wow really? hmmm sounds like an oversite to me
[16:37] <ForgeAus> I would have assumed it'd be there
[16:37] <alinon> me too ;) i checked online to confirm others have noticed it's missing too
[16:37] <ForgeAus> alinon I'm sorry I don't know where it is then
[16:37] <alinon> this 1 line crap stinks
[16:37] <ScorpKing> alinon: the option is somewhere. the default is three lines i think
[16:38] <alinon> i'd like 6 please hehe =)
[16:38] <ForgeAus> I must confess I rarely use it
[16:38] <ForgeAus> but I like to have it functional since it can be handy
[16:38] <BluesKaj> yeah ScorpKing , I think i know what the saying is ...I think it begins with "never"  :)
[16:38] <alinon> i've spend the passed hour trying to find an answer, this was my last resort
[16:38] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i can pm it to you ;)
[16:38] <alinon> *spent
[16:39] <BluesKaj> sure
[16:39] <ForgeAus> alinon is it a version specific thing?
[16:39] <alinon> forgeaus: i'm not sure what you mean by that
[16:39] <ForgeAus> either an earlier KDE or Kubuntu may still have it available but thats a little extreme a solution
[16:40] <alinon> forgeaus: oh yeah i dunno, the 6+ versions i used had trouble using my mouse all together heh
[16:40] <ForgeAus> I'm certain I've seen one in Edgy and probably Feisty too, as for Gutsy or the new one (That starts with H) I don't know...
[16:40] <alinon> hardy heron haha
[16:40] <ForgeAus> what kind of mouse you got?
[16:41] <alinon> standard logitech wireless mouse
[16:41] <ForgeAus> usb? ps2? microsoft? logiech? noname?
[16:41] <ForgeAus> ok logitech wireless seems like it should be ok
[16:41] <alinon> yeah, it's showing up when i do a command to list usb
[16:41]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[16:42] <Schuenemann> I converted the chm with libchm_bin, but it doesn't look like there's a HTML with the frames
[16:42] <ForgeAus> sounds like just one of those things... I don't really know how to help you
[16:42] <ForgeAus> Schuen did it have content before you converted it? lol
[16:42] <alinon> little things like this is what keeps linux from hitting the main stream - because even the best distro's still can't keep the simple stuff simple haha
[16:42] <Schuenemann> ForgeAus, what do you mean?
[16:43] <ForgeAus> if it was an "empty" chm then of course theres going to be no (or blank) html in the frames
[16:43] <alinon> thank you much for help forgeaus
[16:43] <ForgeAus> but it sounds more likely that the conversion failed
[16:44] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about libchm_bin
[16:44] <Schuenemann> ForgeAus, I mean there isn't a file with the 2 frames, only the contents
[16:44] <ForgeAus> what happens if you click a contents link?
[16:45] <Schuenemann> it opens...
[16:45] <ForgeAus> isn't that waht its supposed to do?
[16:45] <ForgeAus> I'm confused
[16:45] <Schuenemann> sigh...
[16:45] <Schuenemann> heh
[16:45] <ForgeAus> thats how chm's normally work
[16:45] <Schuenemann> it's nice to have the indices in a frame to the left, don't you think?
[16:46] <ForgeAus> you click an index link it shows you the corresponding content
[16:46] <Schuenemann> you don't have any index
[16:46] <ForgeAus> Schuen yeah it'd be nicer
[16:46] <ForgeAus> but the conversion might not be smart enough to set it up in frames
[16:47] <Schuenemann> too bad
[16:47] <Schuenemann> it also generated a lot of non sense files
[16:47] <ForgeAus> if you want taht it shouldn't be too difficult to make one from that HTML file
[16:47] <Schuenemann> I guess so
[16:47] <rysiek|pl> guys, is there a way to input a UNICODE char using Alt + NumPad?
[16:47] <ForgeAus> just have a HTML editor copy the contents and link each heading
[16:47] <ForgeAus> into respective frames
[16:48] <ForgeAus> to much work tho uh?
[16:48] <Schuenemann> a program can do that
[16:48] <ForgeAus> in windows there is dunno about linux rys
[16:49] <ForgeAus> heeh Schu a chm glossary would be interesting to convert :)
[16:49] <rysiek|pl> ForgeAus: yeah, I know that on windoze it works
[16:49] <ForgeAus> <wicked evil grin>
[16:49] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta reboot the router ...very slow today for some reason
[16:51] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: i'm sure i've used a converter for linux before. no idea what it's called though. will see if i can find it on google
[16:52] <Schuenemann> ScorpKing, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html
[16:52] <Schuenemann> it's not exacly important though
[16:53] <ScorpKing> hm.. will take a look anyway. need to convert a few files myself
[16:53] <Schuenemann> how to add an entry to the bot?
[16:54] <Schuenemann> nevermind
[16:55] <rysiek|pl> ForgeAus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_codes
[16:55] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: might be usefull - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195457
[16:56] <ScorpKing> lol. same thing. nvm
[17:00] <Schuenemann> ScorpKing, yes heheh :-)
[17:00] <ScorpKing> Schuenemann: thanks for that link btw :D
[17:04] <fabio> posso chiedere aiuto?
[17:04] <ARES> Hello, I have the following function http://pastebin.com/d7dc971eb to get the user input and enforce it's a number in the specified interval (0.255), now I wish to add the default choice, so this function must return char(-1) if user just hits ENTER. Any suggestions?
[17:04] <ARES> Hello, I have the following function http://pastebin.com/d7dc971eb to get the user input and enforce it's a number in the specified interval (0.255), now I wish to add the default choice, so this function must return char(-1) if user just hits ENTER. Any suggestions?
[17:05] <g2g591> ARES: best place for bash function help -> #bash
[17:05] <fabio> ma ├© in inglese qui'
[17:05] <fabio> ??
[17:06] <ARES> g2g591, I'm not using any bash functions, lol
[17:06] <SlimeyPete> !it
[17:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:06] <ru_> ARES: google for "advanced bash scripting"
[17:06] <fabio> a ok
[17:07] <ARES> ru_, lol, it's a C++ code you dumbass
[17:07] <g2g591> ARES: try #CPP or #C++
[17:07] <ru_> oops i misread your last line
[17:07] <ARES> already there... Nobody helped me
[17:07] <Daviey> ARES: Please don't call people _trying_ to help you a dumbass
[17:08] <g2g591> ARES: most of us here don't know **** about functions, especially C++ ones
[17:08] <Daviey> This could well be the reason you aren't recieving help in #c++
[17:08] <unagi> i wouldnt respond to ARES anymore
[17:08] <ru_> ARES: print out the value you get when you just press enter
[17:08] <ru_> and then test for it
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ARES, if you wan t to call ppl names and show your linux chops, then this isn't the room for you.
[17:10] <ARES> I need a hint how to force cin to handle #13 (0x0a) as needed. The command I need to know tests whether enter was hit or not.
[17:10] <Pici> ARES: You were already told to ask in ##c=
[17:10] <Pici> ARES: You were already told to ask in ##c++ when you were in #ubuntu.
[17:11] <Pici> It is an offtopic subject for this channel.
[17:11] <ARES> But I understand you cannot believe nobody in ##c++ told me any suggestion...
[17:11] <unagi> i can
[17:11] <Pici> ARES: That doesnt mean its suddenly okay to ask here.
[17:11] <ARES> THX anyway
[17:11] <unagi> i wouldnt even respond to you
[17:11] <g2g591> ARES: I can believe with your attitude
[17:11] <BluesKaj> i guess that's why you haven't found an answer ...do you read the responses ?
[17:12] <ARES> g2g591, I've never ever asked for something in c++, this is first-time I did
[17:12] <anlauf> is this the german forum?
[17:12] <llutz> !de | anlauf
[17:12] <ubotu> anlauf: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:12] <unagi> ............i dont even know what to make of that
[17:12] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you could check your textbook, or you could email your professor for help.
[17:13] <ARES> btw. have you compiled your kernel recently, g2g591 ?
[17:13] <g2g591> ARES: yeah, so?
[17:13] <Daisuke_Ido> we aren't doing your homework, ask in#c++ and improve your attitude around here
[17:13] <ARES> g2g591, I'm just checking if you know what is it kernel, lol.
[17:13] <unagi> i really hate this guy
[17:13] <Pici> !offtopic | ARES
[17:13] <ubotu> ARES: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:13] <llutz> don't feed the troll
[17:13] <SlimeyPete> ARES: stop being an arrogant geek, it's not becoming.
[17:14] <SlimeyPete> anyway, /ignore
[17:14] <ARES> I'm not arrogant, but you're extremely funny sometimes, like now.
[17:14] <ARES> :-D :-D :-D
[17:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !ops
[17:14] <ubotu> ops is Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[17:14] <Daisuke_Ido> this is ridiculous.
[17:14]  * g2g591 would /callvote mute ARES if he was playing Tremulous
[17:14] <ARES> stdin: Hi, can you please answer me two questions?
[17:14] <unagi> !abuse
[17:14] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:15] <nalioth> Daisuke_Ido: hi
[17:15] <Daisuke_Ido> greets nalioth.  got a minor troll problem :)
[17:15] <nalioth> let us be civil, please
[17:15] <jpatrick> !guidelines > ARES
[17:16]  * BluesKaj trolls for rainbow trout ...but this isn't the place :)
[17:16] <Daisuke_Ido> aye
[17:17] <ARES> I'm not a troll
[17:17]  * unagi bites his lip
[17:18] <nalioth> ARES: nobody has called any names. let us be civil
[17:19] <ARES> you're right nalioth, excuse me please. I'm sorry for that I called a GUI who confused C++ code with BASH scripting a dumbass
[17:19] <trappist> I don't think that counts as civility
[17:19] <ru_> i didn't even look at your code. now go learn programming
[17:20] <unagi> seemed like trolling to me
[17:20] <trappist> or adherence to language guidelines
[17:21] <ARES> ru_, go learn at least the difference between BASH and C++
[17:21] <Pici> Stop.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> heh, just goes to show when an immature 14yrold get's on mommy's pc , that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing :)
[17:26] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: I was 14 when I first /join-ed this channel :-/
[17:26] <argos> hola ?
[17:26] <jpatrick> !es | argos
[17:26] <ubotu> argos: Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[17:26] <argos> algun latino por aqui ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, I'l bet you were somewhat more mature than this last individual tho :)
[17:39] <Schuenemann> !genesis
[17:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about genesis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:40] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > Schuenemann
[17:43] <nyp4life> hello?
[17:43] <fireb0x> howdy
[17:44]  * g2g591 is here
[17:44] <nyp4life> hey hows it goin
[17:44] <nyp4life> is this room for support?
[17:44] <enzo44> how can i automatically activate the num pad when X starts ?
[17:44] <fireb0x> nyp4life: yes
[17:45] <nyp4life> nice.. ok im having a few problems.. i have no audio in kubuntu 7.10
[17:45] <fireb0x> ubotu: tell enzo44 about numlock
[17:45] <jpatrick> !sound | nyp4life
[17:45] <ubotu> nyp4life: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:45] <enzo44> thanks fireb0x
[17:45] <fireb0x> enzo44: no problem
[17:47] <nyp4life> k sound was enabled.. looking at community site now.. one more question
[17:47] <nyp4life> i have a problem with torrents..
[17:47] <nyp4life> i tried using kbittorrent, deluge, and some others i found thru synaptics
[17:47] <unagi> anyone know how to get an expresscard tv tuner to work with kubuntu?
[17:48] <unagi> i prefer ktorrent nyp4life
[17:48] <nyp4life> but after about 2-3 mins downloading, knetworkmanager kicks me off my wireless network
[17:48] <nyp4life> no matter what client i use
[17:48] <nyp4life> any ideas?
[17:49] <unagi> dont use knetworkmanager?
[17:50] <fireb0x> nyp4life: you sure it isn't your router settings?
[17:50] <fumanchu> find some logs about that... why you get kicked off
[17:50] <fireb0x> do you have a router that distributes bandwith?
[17:50] <nyp4life> i have a router yes
[17:51] <nyp4life> how do i get logs?
[17:51] <fireb0x> nyp4life: what model?
[17:51] <nyp4life> lol sorry but im COMPLETELY noob with linux
[17:52] <fireb0x> no problem, what model router do you have?
[17:52] <Mediapirate> whoooop  another linux noob hi 5 nyp4life
[17:52] <nyp4life> linksys wrt54gp2 router and realtek rtl8187l wifi card
[17:53] <nyp4life> lol yay noobs!! linux is fun but im getting frustrated when it dont go my way :P
[17:54] <fireb0x> nyp4life: it will NEVER go your way. Simply because you want to keep learning... and more learning means more mistakes and things you don't know yet, which leads to problems, frustration, divorce, and subsequently murder.
[17:54] <nyp4life> lol murder too?!?!
[17:54] <Daisuke_Ido> fireb0x: the hans reiser story, tonight on TNT.
[17:54] <fireb0x> nyp4life: thankfully you can apt-get install vicodin, which is helpful
[17:54] <fireb0x> Daisuke_LOL
[17:55] <fireb0x> Daisuke_Ido: LOL
[17:55] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:55] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:55] <unagi> anyone know how to get an expresscard tv tuner to work with kubuntu?
[17:56] <fireb0x> ubotu: tell unagi about tv
[17:57] <Schuenemann> what the? I'm trying to install build-essential via apt-get and it asks to me to insert the kubuntu cd? Why that?
[17:58] <g2g591> Schuenemann: comment out the cd entry (add a # infront of it) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:59] <nyp4life> i tried vicodin and got:
[17:59] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install vicodin
[17:59] <nyp4life> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:59] <nyp4life> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> nyp4life: shut down the other running package manager
[18:00] <Schuenemann> nyp4life, you have adept open or something?
[18:00] <fireb0x> LOL
[18:01] <nyp4life> oops just noticed it on the other desktop
[18:01] <fumanchu> nyp4life, you can use only one package manager at a time
[18:01] <nyp4life> k now i got:
[18:01] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install vicodin
[18:01] <nyp4life> Reading package lists... Done
[18:01] <nyp4life> Building dependency tree
[18:01] <nyp4life> Reading state information... Done
[18:01] <nyp4life> E: Couldn't find package vicodin
[18:01] <fireb0x> nyp4life: i was just kidding about vicodin, sorry lol, i dont think vicodin is a package
[18:01] <nyp4life> nyp4life@nyp4life-desktop:~$
[18:01] <fireb0x> !pastebin
[18:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:01] <nyp4life> lmao yea it looked a little weird
[18:02] <fireb0x> nyp4life: it was part of the murder anecdote
[18:02] <nyp4life> figured
[18:02] <mneptok> what is a "nyp?"
[18:02] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I did that... then suddenly some updates appeared? ... linux-headers, linux-image, etc
[18:02] <nyp4life> NewYorkPimp
[18:03] <g2g591> Schuenemann: well, the stuff on the cd isn't all the latest version, bug fixes and stuff do happen
[18:03] <Schuenemann> g2g591, what does that line mean?
[18:04] <g2g591> Schuenemann: bug fixes are made after the cds are made too, those updates will download the newer fixed versions
[18:05] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I'm wondering why they appeared after I removed the line and did apt-get update
[18:05] <Giardo> hey someone can help me with the warrock installation (i'm italian)? :D
[18:05] <g2g591> Schuenemann: i don't know, i think apt be overtly in love with using cds
[18:05] <Daisuke_Ido> fireb0x: nicotine is an actual package
[18:06] <Schuenemann> =/
[18:07] <g2g591> Giardo: there is a kubuntu- (italy's country code) channel if english isn't your best language
[18:07] <fireb0x> Daisuke_Ido: lol, apt-get inhale nicotine
[18:08] <nyp4life> ok i got an audio pack from realtek website and the readme just says to run ./install so i did
[18:08] <nyp4life> got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54737/
[18:08] <Giardo> i know g2g591 but no one can help me :D can you help me? i can't change the resolution of the screen when i open the game...
[18:09] <g2g591> nyp4life: sudo ./install
[18:09] <g2g591> Giardo: never played it actually...
[18:09] <nyp4life> does it matter that i was already in 'su'?
[18:09] <Giardo> but i can run and installl it!
[18:09] <Giardo> but i can't change the resolution!
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: was there a # sign instead of a $ sign?
[18:10] <Schuenemann> nyp4life, sudo is just for that command
[18:10] <nyp4life> k
[18:10] <g2g591> Giardo: is the resolution out of game fine? or is it just in game?
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: you su'ed to yourself
[18:10] <Giardo> just in the game
[18:10] <g2g591> nyp4life: you have to use sudo ./install
[18:11] <Giardo> when i use kubuntu normally is ok
[18:11] <g2g591> Giardo: well, i have no idea how to change resolution in that game
[18:11] <Giardo> but when i start warrock it's a mess
[18:11]  * g2g591 knows nothing about warrock
[18:11] <nyp4life> same thing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54738/
[18:13] <g2g591> nyp4life:  no, its slightly different , sudo apt-get install build-essential then try it
[18:13] <fireb0x> nyp4life: have you installed build-essentials?
[18:13] <nyp4life> nope.. will do
[18:13] <fireb0x> nyp4life: what g2g591 said
[18:13] <Giardo> thanks a lot
[18:13] <Giardo> bye!
[18:14] <Schuenemann> do I need sudo to run ./configure?
[18:14] <kaminix^> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/187374 Doesn't that last comment mean it should be backported by now?
[18:14] <g2g591> Schuenemann: no, but you will for make install
[18:15] <Schuenemann> g2g591, it says access denied
[18:15] <g2g591> Schuenemann: thats an indication to use sudo then
[18:16] <g2g591> kaminix^: the status at the top of the page means its not, yet, but will be
[18:16] <Schuenemann> g2g591, is it sudo sh ./configure?
[18:16] <kaminix^> g2g591: Anyway to know around when?
[18:16] <g2g591> kaminix^: nope, not that i know
[18:16] <g2g591> Schuenemann: you can just do sudo ./configure
[18:16] <Schuenemann> g2g591, it says command not found
[18:17] <g2g591> Schuenemann: have you cd'ed into the directory with the configure script
[18:17] <Odd-rationale> How do I make kword the default word processor instead of OOwriter?
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> flash is in -proposed right now
[18:17] <Schuenemann> g2g591, I'm there...
[18:19] <g2g591> Schuenemann: are you sure??
[18:19] <g2g591> Odd-rationale: uninstall openoffice
[18:19] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: Thanks a lot...
[18:19] <Schuenemann> g2g591, of course... I'm not that dumb. And besides, it outputted permission denied without sudo.... it wouldn't if it didn't exist :-)
[18:20] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try sudo -i , then going to the directory and doing the configure and stuff
[18:20] <Firefishe> does Gutsy come with kde 4?>
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: of course not
[18:20] <Odd-rationale> g2g591: Actually, I have considered that. But there has to be a better way.
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: there is an option to go and install it after you install, but
[18:20] <Firefishe> g2g591: k.  I see, though, that it does come with Dolphin as a file manager?
[18:20] <g2g591> Firefishe: it comes with the kde 3x version of Dolphin
[18:20] <Schuenemann> g2g591, file or directory non-existent
[18:21] <Firefishe> g2g591: I was just kind of wondering...why?
[18:21] <nyp4life> k i tried again after installing build-essentials.. still no go
[18:21] <g2g591> Schuenemann: run ls to make sure it is there
[18:21] <Firefishe> Why eliminate konqueror as the standard kde file manager?
[18:21] <nyp4life> I WANT AUDIO!! lol
[18:21] <Schuenemann> g2g591, ls (after sudo -i) has nothing!
[18:21] <g2g591> Firefishe: you can make konqueror default easily after you install
[18:21] <g2g591> Schuenemann: you need to cd in to the directory again after you sudo -i
[18:22] <Firefishe> g2g591: I mean, the icon view command didn't even allow me to sort by type or kind
[18:22] <Schuenemann> g2g591, oh, I didn't realize it changed the directory. Anyway, I still get permission denied
[18:22] <Schuenemann> weird... and the prompt has ther sharp sign #
[18:23] <mneptok> Schuenemann: ls -la (do you see a configure command?)
[18:23] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try chmod +x configure
[18:23] <nyp4life> i tried amd64 and couldn't get things to work.. now im on i386, thinking it will be better.. still cant get things to work :(
[18:23] <Schuenemann> -rw-r--r-- 1 otto otto 171446 2004-05-22 09:02 configure
[18:23] <Schuenemann> there is no 'x'
[18:23] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try chmod +x configure then
[18:24] <mneptok> Schuenemann: chmod +x configure
[18:24] <Schuenemann> ok, now it's purple
[18:24] <mneptok> ./configure
[18:24] <Schuenemann> it says 'invalid interpreter'
[18:24] <mneptok> bash ./configure
[18:24] <g2g591> Schuenemann: try sh ./configure then
[18:25] <mneptok> g2g591: the fact he's using sh is the problem ;)
[18:25] <Schuenemann> 'bash ./configure' says there is an error on line 19?
[18:25] <Schuenemann> syntax error next to unexpected symbol: elif
[18:25] <mneptok> Schuenemann: then the confogure script is broken in some way. talk a developer about it.
[18:25] <Schuenemann> sigh
[18:26] <g2g591> Schuenemann: id say you have a wierd program
[18:26] <Schuenemann> I think my system is broken
[18:26] <g2g591> Schuenemann: what program is that anyway?
[18:26] <Schuenemann> it's gens (genesis emulator)
[18:27] <mneptok> Sega Genesis?
[18:27] <Schuenemann> yes, aka mega drive
[18:27] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install dgen
[18:27] <Schuenemann> dgen has no front end
[18:28] <Schuenemann> or it does?
[18:29] <Schuenemann> `elif test -n "${BASH_VERSION+set}" && (set -o posix) >/de'/null 2>&1; then
[18:34] <werner> greets
[18:40] <mrdlouisd> im trying to install a live dvd to my 4 gig pen drive, is there anyway of installing it? Or must i get a copy of a livecd? if so could i save that livecd to the pen drive i want to install to?
[18:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !persistant
[18:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:42] <hemanathan_hi> hi
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> hi sir
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> i need a help for browsing through konqueror
[18:43] <hemanathan_hi> is anyone there to help me
[18:44] <hemanathan> hi sir
[18:44] <BluesKaj> what is the problem , hemanathan?
[18:45] <hemanathan> i can't browse internet through konqueror i get an error mesage
[18:45] <hemanathan> now i'm using kubuntu konversation application but i couldn't browse
[18:46] <hemanathan> even i could download updates from kubuntu website
[18:46] <jereme> hemanathan: sounds like you have proxy or firewall issues.  what was the error konqueror gave you?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> hemanathan, were you able to browse previously ?
[18:47] <D4RIO> Men, i've upgraded from dapper to gutsy using dist-upgrade, but I've this problem:
[18:47] <D4RIO> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[18:47] <D4RIO> can you tell me how to fix..?
[18:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you went *straight* from dapper to gutsy?
[18:47] <hemanathan> An error occurred while loading http://google.com/:
[18:47] <hemanathan> Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[18:47] <hemanathan> these are error messages that i get
[18:47] <jereme> hemanathan: can you ping google.com from a terminal?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> err D4RIO , it's not adviseable to upgrade frpm dapper directly to gutsy
[18:48] <maroo> hello, is there a way to restrict memory usage of applications? i tried settings /etc/security/limits.conf memlock/rss/data but that does not seem to have any effect
[18:48] <BluesKaj> unless it's a clean install, D4RIO
[18:48] <hemanathan> anyone help me ya
[18:49] <D4RIO> BluesKaj: And what can i do now?
[18:49] <|Dreams|> is there any way to completely reset the network settings to factory without reinstalling kubuntu?
[18:49] <hemanathan> yes i could ping google from terminal i could even download kubuntu updates but i can't browse
[18:50] <BluesKaj> D4RIO, sorry , that's beyond my expertise
[18:52] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: how do you connect to the internet? dialup?
[18:52] <D4RIO> ops
[18:52] <D4RIO> I've a big problem here...
[18:52] <D4RIO> houston!!
[18:52] <hemanathan> scorpking : yes dial up only
[18:53] <BluesKaj> hemanathan, open konqueror /settings/configure view profile /click on web browsing , save , then close konqueror , try browsing again
[18:53] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: and do you use you local network?
[18:53] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: it's knetworkmanager not setting a default gateway because eth0 is down
[18:54] <hemanathan> blueskaj: i tried by saving profile but then i couldn't
[18:54] <jussi01> D4RIO: how did you upgrade? directly form dapper- gutsy? or via feisty
[18:54] <D4RIO> dapper gutsy
[18:54] <hemanathan> scorpking: no i don;t use
[18:55] <jussi01> D4RIO: then you have likely broken something, as the correct upgrade path is only 1 release at a time.
[18:55] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: ok. close knetworkmanager and try again
[18:55] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, he's able to ping google ..dialup must be connected
[18:55] <hemanathan> scorpking: how to close knetworkmanager i;m new to linux
[18:55] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: i use dialup and have the same problem. it took me weeks to figure out
[18:56] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: right click on the network icon in the system tray and select quit
[18:57] <D4RIO> if i do a dist-upgrade to feisty now... can I resolve my broken packages?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> ok ScorpKing , "dialupking" it is :)
[18:57] <hemanathan> scorpking: yes it's working thank you very much
[18:57] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: the problem is that knetworkmanager does not support dialup. there are patches available
[18:58] <hemanathan> scorpking: i've many doubts regarding linux can you help me
[18:58] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: i can try
[18:58] <BluesKaj> D4RIO, dapper>edgy>feisty>gutsy
[18:59] <g2g591> D4RIO: but because you already skiped, i think you're pretty screwed
[18:59] <hemanathan> when i start kppp and connect it shows as connected at 2 what it means
[18:59] <hemanathan> scorpking: when i start kppp and connect it shows as connected at 2 what it means
[19:00] <D4RIO> oh yes
[19:00] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: 2 what? i don't use kppp btw. what modem do you have?
[19:00] <D4RIO> edgy too
[19:01] <hemanathan> scorpking: i'm connecting dial up using mobile through bluetooth
[19:02] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: oh ok. not sure what that means. i use a usb cable. it seems to be faster
[19:03] <hemanathan> scorpking: here in india rural i could get only maximum of 40 kilo bits per sec
[19:03] <miladen> Ey does any1 know where my drive_c is located?
[19:03] <viermaalj> ~/.wine
[19:03] <D4RIO> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[19:03] <miladen> viermaalj doesnt work
[19:03] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: yeah that's slow
[19:04] <g2g591> miladen: in wine ? or what
[19:04] <miladen> yes
[19:04] <BluesKaj> miladen, system menu/storage media
[19:04] <hemanathan> scorpking : how much do you get
[19:04] <miladen> BluesKaj i dont have one of those
[19:04] <g2g591> miladen: you're wine drive c is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[19:04] <g2g591> your*
[19:04] <hemanathan> scorpking: here we are using 2.5 g network thats why no edge nor 3g
[19:04] <D4RIO> Oh no! i've to re-re-re-re-re-reinstall my system! . . . XDXDXD
[19:05] <viermaalj> miladen, /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c
[19:05] <g2g591> D4RIO: or you could jsut download a gutsy cd
[19:05] <kreib> is it possible to install xp on an extended partition?
[19:05] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: sometimes 375KB/s download on 3g
[19:05] <miladen> oh ok
[19:05] <hemanathan> scorpking: fine
[19:06] <D4RIO> I've feisty but ...
[19:06] <hemanathan> scorpking: may i know your mail id for contact so that i can contact through mails if any doubt
[19:07] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: see your private msg
[19:07] <BluesKaj> kreib, no it has to be NTFS
[19:08] <D4RIO> it does'nt boot
[19:08] <D4RIO> I've 256 mb of RAM
[19:08] <BluesKaj> kreib, a seperate logical partition
[19:08] <D4RIO> can I get an alternate-install cd
[19:08] <D4RIO> ?
[19:09] <ScorpKing> yes
[19:09] <ScorpKing> D4RIO: the alternate will install with 256mb ram but xubuntu runs a lot faster
[19:09] <g2g591> D4RIO: alternate-install just has a text (dos-ish) installer (not the whole "live" environment)
[19:10] <D4RIO> I know ┬¼┬¼
[19:10] <D4RIO> I've installed a lot of systems in text mode
[19:11] <D4RIO> but never upgraded one
[19:11] <hemanathan> scorpking: i;ve done something what is that
[19:11] <miladen> crap even with wine Portrait professional fucks up
[19:11] <jussi01> !ohmy
[19:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:11] <miladen> im sorry
[19:11] <miladen> excuse me people :(
[19:12] <jussi01> miladen: what does portrait do?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> miladen have you tried gimpshop
[19:12] <kreib> BluesKaj; thx. if I create a new logical partition, I can make it ntfs?
[19:12] <miladen> retouches facial pictures for you
[19:12] <BluesKaj> kreib, yes
[19:12] <miladen> BluesKaj yeah but hate it, ive installed photoshop, but Portrait professional does it like in 4 clicks :)
[19:13] <kreib> ok, but it will insall to the MRB I guess, and I can't boot to kubuntu no more?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> kreib , create the NTFS partition in front of the ext/linux ... it'll be easier for you
[19:14] <Drekky> hello
[19:14] <kreib> yeah, I know. but the ext/linux is already there
[19:14] <BluesKaj> kreib, you don't have to overwrite kubuntu to do it
[19:14] <miladen> is there other apps than wine thats runs wintendo apps better?
[19:15] <kreib> ok. thx
[19:15] <BluesKaj> kreib, what partition editor are you using ?
[19:16] <g2g591> miladen: nope, wine is the best we have, but it will improve, then will start sucking again after the changes windows 7 brings
[19:16] <kreib> None, just manually, why?
[19:16] <miladen> windows 7?
[19:16] <g2g591> miladen: the version after vista
[19:16] <miladen> where can i read about windows 7?
[19:17] <maroo> miladen: not really, there is crossover office and cedega that have a couple of improvements over the normal wine but both are commercial
[19:17] <BluesKaj> kreib, manually, are you in kubuntu ?
[19:17] <kreib> yes
[19:17] <jussi01> !windows | miladen
[19:17] <ubotu> miladen: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[19:17] <g2g591> miladen: theres some rumors and stuff on zdnet
[19:17] <miladen> ok
[19:17] <sporkin_a> so anyone in here know how to get the speakers on a toshiba tecra a8 to work
[19:17] <BluesKaj> kreib, how are you editing the partitions ?
[19:18] <g2g591> BluesKaj: im guessing fdisk
[19:18] <kreib> directly from the windows install cd
[19:18] <BluesKaj> oooh...
[19:18] <kreib> when installing
[19:18] <BluesKaj> not a good idea , kreib
[19:18] <kreib> why?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> it won't see ext/linux
[19:18] <fireb0x> alright, im in KDE 4, and I accidentally deleted the part of my task bar where open programs reside, anyone know how to get this back?
[19:19] <kreib> tried gparted once, but wasn't impressed
[19:19] <g2g591> kreib: qtparted ?
[19:19] <kreib> no it won't. but it will se the partitions, thats all you need
[19:19] <miladen> does whotoshop have a channel?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> gparted is excellent , it'll save your existing ext/linux and make a windows partition if you shrink the ext / linux one
[19:20] <g2g591> miladen: cs 1 /cs 2 work good with wine, not things later
[19:20] <kreib> perhaps it was qtparted, don't remeber
[19:20] <g2g591> kreib: gparted is pretty good, qtparted sorta sucks
[19:21] <nuno> !shockwave
[19:21] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[19:21] <BluesKaj> gparted is a live bootable cd that you download and burn , run it as a live cd and you can do what is needed
[19:21] <kreib> ok. thx , perhaps ill give it another try
[19:22] <BluesKaj> !Gparted | kreib
[19:22] <ubotu> kreib: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type ┬½ sudo apt-get install gparted ┬╗ in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[19:24] <_prefect> as a C/C++ programmer, I must say I find the use of an exclamation mark in this place highly confusing ;)
[19:27] <BluesKaj> _prefect, it's the botscript prompter
[19:29] <adam_> Is there anything like Adobe Pagemaker for us to use?  I have openoffice...
[19:29] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[19:29] <miladen> does shotoshop have a channel here in IRC?
[19:29] <_prefect> BluesKaj: I know, and it is logical and everything - so not saying that it's bad or anything. It just caused me to pause for a second - kind of a stumble of the mind ;)
[19:30] <jussi01> adam_: what is pagemaker for?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> miladen, i'm sure there's aphotoshop room some where , but dunno about this server
[19:30] <adam_> It lets you arrange/draw/write lines, separators, text, collumns... Think an app for making pamphlets 8)
[19:30] <adam_> jussi01: ^^
[19:31] <jussi01> !info scribus | adam_
[19:31] <hemanathan> k  guys bye
[19:31] <ubotu> adam_: scribus (source: scribus): Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmental branch. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.3.9.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8968 kB, installed size 26232 kB
[19:31] <chowner> ey , there is a problem with the updates, how do you apt-get clean from the GUI?
[19:31] <adam_> jussi01: That should do, thank you!
[19:31] <chowner> I selected YES and it crashes
[19:32] <chowner> er , apt-get check
[19:32] <chowner> not clean , lol
[19:32] <chowner> no ! all my pkgs, hehe
[19:33] <chowner> ok, where do I ask questions / about Adept?
[19:34] <nuno> !msn
[19:34] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[19:34] <chowner> !adept
[19:34] <nuno> nice
[19:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:34] <nuno> this bot is excellent
[19:34] <chowner> https , ?
[19:34] <nuno> Yeah
[19:35] <adam_> I have the nvidia drivers installed, but even simple desktop effects are slow (even resizing and such); and I have a 6800 Ultra!  Any thoughts/known things i might have overlooked?
[19:35] <jussi01> adam_: how did you enable them?
[19:36] <nuno> !ragnarok
[19:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ragnarok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:37] <nuno> Anyone knows how can i play ragnarok in kubuntu?
[19:37] <adam_> jussi01: I used envy...  I do get the nvidia logo, too, before the splash screen
[19:38] <jussi01> !envy | adam_
[19:38] <ubotu> adam_: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[19:38] <jussi01> adam_: not a good idea.
[19:38] <trappist> adam_: there's a bugfix kernel package, just came out today, that's supposed to fix an nvidia memory leak
[19:39] <enzo> i'de like to launch firefox, which command should i launch ?
[19:39] <adam_> jussi01: Oh yeah?  I actually used envy because I was having the same issue with the restricted drivers...  Then I had a massive failure trying to use the binary on NVidia's site, so I tried envy and it seems to be restored to the point that it was at before I started fooling with it, hehe
[19:39] <trappist> enzo: firefox
[19:40] <adam_> trappist: Oh nice!  How do I install that?  Just with aptitude, I presume?  Do you know the name of the package?
[19:40] <chowner> apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <chowner> lol
[19:40] <nuno> sudo
[19:40] <nuno> xD
[19:40]  * chowner gonna go rape the konsole now
[19:40] <chowner> oops
[19:40] <chowner> yea
[19:40] <chowner> sudo
[19:40] <chowner> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <chowner> WHEEE
[19:40] <nuno> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:40] <nuno> xD
[19:40] <enzo> thanks trappist
[19:40] <jussi01> !enter | chowner
[19:40] <ubotu> chowner: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:41] <enzo> FF 3 is stable enough or not ?
[19:41] <chowner> yeah Im gonna punctuate my terminal . ciao!
[19:41] <trappist> adam_: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade - make sure you have the security repo enabled in your sources.list
[19:44] <adam_> trappist: Doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade me from Gutsy to... well, gutsy?  I remember seeing somewhere, too, that a distro upgrade will kill my envy install, hehe
[19:45] <trappist> adam_: if you upgrade your kernel and you're using envy drivers, yeah, you'll need to rerun envy
[19:45] <shingoki> yeah why does everyone always put dist-upgrade in instructions, does it actually do anything useful?
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> Where is the character map so that I can inpuut special characters?
[19:46] <trappist> shingoki: some packages won't get upgraded with a regular ole upgrade.  I think kernel is one of them.
[19:46] <adam_> trappist: Okay.  This would be a good time to revert to the restricted driver instead 8)  Getting the update now, thanks!  Where do you hear news like that?  I never would have known there was an update available...
[19:46] <shingoki> trappist: ah that's useful, I hate upgrading kernel :)
[19:46] <trappist> adam_: this time I heard it from a guy I work with who just spent his whole weekend doing research and tweaking his new ubuntu install
[19:47] <nuno> How can i install KDE 4 on gutsy? is it possible?
[19:47] <adam_> trappist: Ooh, gotcha.  Methinks I'm gonna go find a good ubuntu news rss feed
[19:47] <adam_> nuno: It is, I'm doing it
[19:47] <vlt> Hello. I have an IBM Laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 with a cdrom drive in a docking station. Sometimes when connecting the laptop to the station the cdrom is recognized and I can access it, sometimes it's not -- and rebooting is the only way I know to enable it. Any idea how to access the drive w/o rebooting?
[19:47] <adam_> nuno: Check out kubuntu.org, on the front page they have simple instructions
[19:47] <nuno> adam_: Okay
[19:48] <jpatrick> !kde4 > nuno
[19:48] <trappist> adam_: well what I heard about this morning was an upstream change in linux, then I saw there was an update to the ubuntu kernel, looked in the git tree and saw that it fixes this issue
[19:48] <nuno> A package?!
[19:48] <shingoki> trappist: Which hardware are you having trouble with?
[19:49] <trappist> shingoki: I'm not having any trouble :)  I'm just trying to help
[19:49] <adam_> Upstream change?  As in, debian?  And I presume a git tree is, like, a change log?
[19:49] <nuno> Hm... and is KDE4 compatible with Compiz Fusion?
[19:49] <shingoki> trappist: ah ok :) Then which hardware is someone else having trouble with? ;)
[19:49] <trappist> adam_: upstream as in kernel.org, and the git tree is the source repository ubuntu's using for kernel source
[19:49] <trappist> shingoki: nvidia card
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> nuno: Yes.
[19:50] <nuno> <_ Nice
[19:50] <shingoki> trappist: ah right. Proprietary driver all the way!
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> nuno: In fact, they plan to make it easier to enable compiz. Something similar to ubuntu's
[19:50] <lanzelloth> quick question: how do i add/remove things from the bar at the bottom
[19:50] <adam_> nuno: In my first install I had CF running when I started KDE4 for the first time.  It didn't last very long, only because I wanted to see the pure KDE4... But I didn't have any apparent problems for that first couple hours...
[19:50] <lanzelloth> i removed my window switcher
[19:51] <jussi01> lanzelloth: right click - add to panel
[19:51] <g2g591> #kubuntu-kde4
[19:51] <lanzelloth> jussi01:  that doesn't work (i'm in kde4)
[19:51] <adam_> lanzelloth: I presume you're using kde4? Other wise it would be intued how to achieve that 8) #kubuntu-kde4 ... But, click on add widget, and drag and drop the task manager or whatnot into the tile bar
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> nuno: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3224
[19:52] <jussi01> lanzelloth: ok, kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:53] <Odd-rationale> How do I input special characters?
[19:55] <lanzelloth> adam_: thx
[19:55] <enzo> i'm using french mirror of ubuntu.com: fr.archive.ubuntu.com, but it's lagging a lot, is it normal ?
[19:55] <adam_> lanzelloth: any time!
[19:56] <lanzelloth> adam_: how do you move the bar to the left (vertical)?
[19:56] <nuno> Well... Hardy comes with kde4 right?
[19:56] <jussi01> lanzelloth: please make sure you ask kde4 questions in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:57] <g2g591> nuno: Hardy will have a kde4 release AND a kde 3 release
[19:58] <KaSho> holas
[19:58] <KaSho> he
[19:58] <KaSho> anybody here
[19:58] <jussi01> yes
[19:58] <jpatrick> !es | KaSho
[19:58] <ubotu> KaSho: Si busca ayuda en espa├▒ol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[19:59] <KaSho> anybody can download in thi url ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/
[19:59]  * g2g591 is able to understand ubotu's spanish message (almost completely)
[20:00] <jpatrick> g2g591: /join #kubuntu-es then ;)
[20:00] <KaSho> jeje
[20:00] <KaSho> ok
[20:00] <g2g591> im only half way done with Spanish 2
[20:00] <g2g591> Kasho i get cannot connect to host on that url
[20:01] <Squee__x> hey O.o
[20:01] <g2g591> jpatrick: once i get into spanish 3 for a while, then i think ill be able to understand them, better
[20:07] <peaches> what do i need to get a webcam working besides the kernel driver being loaded?
[20:09] <ahmos> Hi, I have a problem with xsensors..can anybody help me plz?
[20:09] <tekteen> !ask | ahmos
[20:09] <ubotu> ahmos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:10] <ahmos> ok ,when I open it i have a blank window
[20:10] <ahmos> I tried sensors-detect but noway
[20:10] <jussi01> !sensors | ahmos
[20:10] <ubotu> ahmos: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:16] <ahmos> sorry,but i've installed lm-sensors..so where i can find it's source?!
[20:20] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ the source code for the application?
[20:21] <niss_> any news of truecrypt gui for kubuntu
[20:21] <BluesKaj> ahmos,why not try ksensors in adept
[20:22] <ahmos> I tried it but the same problem
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ sudo apt-get source lmarbles?
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> err, lm-sensors
[20:23] <g2g591> err sub[t]rnl you don't need sudo to download the source
[20:23] <ahmos> I've typed your code sub
[20:23] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: shouldnt need the sudo there
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> righto
[20:23] <jussi01> sub[t]rnl: in fact the sudo may mees up perms onthe source you downloaded
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> ahmosŌ×£ if thats what your wanting.  If your just wanting to list the contents of the package, use dpkg -L
[20:24] <sub[t]rnl> jussi01Ō×£ not messed up, but yeah, it changes them to root
[20:24] <hasan> aaaaa
[20:24] <ahmos> it is not what i'm waiting but I try any code i see now :D
[20:25] <ubuntu> alguem do brasil por aqui:?
[20:25] <jussi01> hasan: can we help?
[20:25] <jussi01> !br | ubuntu
[20:25] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugu├¬s. Obrigado.
[20:26] <ahmos> how i can do this..
[20:26] <ahmos> Install the following packages lm-sensors (see InstallingSoftware).
[20:26] <ahmos> Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extracted below:
[20:26] <ahmos> Copy the script file below to a text editor and save it to a file named mkdev.sh.
[20:27] <ahmos> i've installed the package
[20:27] <ahmos> so where to run mkhdev.sh?
[20:27] <sub[t]rnl> save the script to a file, mkdev.sh.  Then chmod u+x mkdev.sh && ./mkdev.sh
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> or 	sh mkdev.sh
[20:28] <ahmos> let's see
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> came in kind of late, whats wrong with the package in the repo's anywho?
[20:31] <nuno> Which one is better to use as MSN? Kopete or aMSN?
[20:31] <sub[t]rnl> !best > nuno
[20:31] <nuno> Lol
[20:31] <nuno> Thanks...
[20:32] <Flare183> !lol > nuno
[20:32] <tekteen> I like pidgin the best. then kopete. kopete is the "official" im
[20:36] <ubuntu_> italy
[20:36] <jussi01> !it | ubuntu_
[20:36] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:36] <jussi01> gah
[20:37] <bitmonster> can anyone help me to configure my ati radeon 7500 mobile for dual head usage?
[20:38] <jussi01> bitmonster: running the fglrx driver?
[20:38] <kubuntu-it> italy language
[20:38] <jussi01> !it | kubuntu-it
[20:38] <ubotu> kubuntu-it: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:38] <ahmos> I can't do this step Then, run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools..so how?
[20:39] <bitmonster> jussi01: does not work :-(
[20:39] <kubuntu-it> e come si fa?
[20:40] <Flare183> !it > kubuntu-it
[20:40] <Goop2> is there a kopete plugin to block a contact?
[20:41] <kubuntu-it> it
[20:41] <bitmonster> jussi01: do you have another idea?
[20:41] <Goop2> preferably something with a big panic button for satisfaction?
[20:42] <bitmonster> jussi01: completely disparate :-(
[20:43] <jussi01> bitmonster: wait a sec
[20:44] <reagleBRKLN> i'm using Kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 3.5.8, I can't see the non-ascii characters on this page for example properly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonetic_transcription). Am I missing a package?
[20:45] <mefisto__> I'm trying to figure out where kdm (login screen) gets its screen resolution from. From what I've read, this should be set in xorg.conf. I've removed every res except 1280x1024 in xorg.conf, but kdm still displays at 1024x768
[20:46] <enry> hello
[20:46] <nekomimi> hello world
[20:46] <nekomimi> ...
[20:46] <jussi01> mefisto__: try removing the "virtual" line
[20:49] <mefisto__> jussi01: still the same
[20:51] <mefisto__> the odd thing is that if I log out, kdm displays in 1280x1024 (what I want on startup)
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[20:52] <Flare183> wtf
[20:52] <Flare183> sorry
[20:52] <Gunirus> **!R7┬¦$7*E*
[20:52] <jussi01> !abrn cWolfe
[20:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abrn cwolfe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:52]  * bmk789 smells the banhammer coming
[20:52] <jackster> wha?
[20:52] <Flare183> yeah
[20:52] <Flare183> yeap*
[20:52] <genii> Likely some bot
[20:53] <bitmonster> do you have an idea what's wrong with this xorg.conf file: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/34241/
[20:53] <bitmonster> if i uncomment the commented paragraphs, xserver only starts with low resolution
[20:55] <g2g591> bitmonster: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:55] <bitmonster> with the uncommented paragraphs?
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> little multimonitor fun-ness
[20:56] <g2g591> bitmonster: it doesn't matter, (i dont think)
[20:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i'll stay away from that one, i never could get it working properly
[20:57] <nekomimi> Long live IRC
[20:57] <genii> There seems to be a few syntax errors in it. But I feel like Daisuke_Ido and don't care to mess with it
[20:57] <mefisto__> bitmonster: line 61 looks like there's a " (quote) missing
[20:58] <bitmonster> mefisto__: line 61 is commented as well
[20:59] <vlt> Hello. I have an IBM Laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 with a cdrom drive in a docking station. Sometimes when connecting the laptop to the station the cdrom is recognized and I can access it, sometimes it's not -- and rebooting is the only way I know to enable it. Any idea how to access the drive w/o rebooting?
[20:59] <genii> Should there be sub entries of       Screen 0          under the videocard stanza for instance? (line 69)
[20:59] <nekomimi> I have installed guarddog, and set up the rules. But i can't get smtp to work any ideas ?
[21:00] <mefisto__> bitmonster: you said if you uncomment you get low res.
[21:01] <bitmonster> ah I see .. I only uncomment the last paragraphs (2nd screen etc)
[21:02] <tekteen> nekomimi: when I tried to install gdog my computer would not allow anyone but root to get to the inster net :-)
[21:03] <nekomimi> Ok
[21:03] <nekomimi> but everythig is working fine but the smtp...(SAD)
[21:05] <accursed> heloo
[21:05] <tekteen> hi
[21:05] <accursed> hihi
[21:06] <accursed> Ch┼éopacy?
[21:06] <nekomimi> hihi?
[21:06] <jeisma> I just downloaded the tar.gz file for flash from adobe onto kubuntu
[21:06] <jeisma> how do i untar and install flash?
[21:06] <tekteen> !flash
[21:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see ┬½ /msg ubotu FlashIssues ┬╗
[21:07] <jeisma> If a download stalls, how do you resume it?
[21:07] <bitmonster> mefisto__: do you have other ideas?
[21:08] <nekomimi> jeisma: what program are you using
[21:08] <nekomimi> ?
[21:08] <jeisma> nekomimi Im just downloading something from a website
[21:08] <jeisma> nekomimii no particular program I think, just whatever is standard when you download from a link? i'm not sure
[21:09] <mefisto__> bitmonster: I would save what you have under different name, then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to create a new xorg.conf. maybe comparing the old with the new will tell you something
[21:09] <nekomimi> jeisma firefox kget ?
[21:10] <mefisto__> bitmonster: I'm no expert with configuring xserver, I'm having my own probs with it atm
[21:10] <jeisma> nekomimi get firefox you mean? i just tried to through adept but it said something about there may be a break in packages and it stopped..
[21:11] <jpatrick> 2
[21:12] <nekomimi> jeisma kget is a download manager for kde
[21:12] <bitmonster> mefisto__: ok, thank you anyway
[21:12] <nekomimi> jeisma or are you just useing konqerior ?
[21:12] <jeisma> nekomimi im just using konqueror cause i can't get firefox for some reason
[21:13] <jeisma> im trying to get into adept again and its giving me this message
[21:13] <jeisma> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[21:13] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[21:13] <jeisma> when i click yes, adept crashes
[21:13] <nekomimi> jeisma open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install firefox if you are using ubuntu based
[21:13] <bitmonster> mefisto__: now it only has one screen left (despite the uncommented lines)
[21:14] <jeisma> im using kubuntu
[21:14] <nekomimi> jeisma sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:14] <nekomimi> test i think i will work
[21:14] <jussi01> !adeptfix | jeisma
[21:14] <ubotu> jeisma: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: ┬½ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ┬╗
[21:14] <nekomimi> ok
[21:15] <nyp4life> hey all
[21:16] <jeisma> dpkg: error processing gconf2-common (--configure):
[21:16] <jeisma>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[21:16] <jeisma>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[21:16] <jeisma> what should i do about that nekomimi
[21:16] <nyp4life> can anybody help me with a wifi issue? or maybe its a torrent issue?
[21:16] <nyp4life> every time i use a torrent client (currently ktorrent) i get kicked off my wireless network after about 2-3 mins
[21:16] <nekomimi> nyp4life: ok
[21:17] <nekomimi> i don't know
[21:17] <nyp4life> same happened with deluge n some others from adept
[21:17] <nyp4life> when im not using a client the connection is fine
[21:18] <nyp4life> ..is this a normal problem?
[21:18] <nekomimi> nyp4life: its problebly not the client thats wrong
[21:18] <nyp4life> yea i dont think its client-specific either
[21:18] <khelll> is there a visual tool to zip/unzip files?
[21:18] <nekomimi> nyp4life: you are using a wireless router does it have a config thats reject the torrent protocol
[21:19] <nekomimi> khell ARK
[21:19] <mefisto__> nyp4life: try changing the port ktorrent uses to a higher number. (just guessing your isp might be blocking commonly used ports)
[21:19] <nekomimi> nyp4life:  yeah thats right
[21:19] <nyp4life> how do i check that? i changed the port to 50055 already thinking it would work
[21:19] <nekomimi> khelll sudo apt-get install ark
[21:20] <nekomimi> its good
[21:20] <khelll> yes thanks
[21:20] <nyp4life> i was using utorrent on winxp just fine
[21:20] <nyp4life> and firefox works perfectly here in kubuntu when im not dl/ul torrents
[21:20] <jussi01> If I install a -docs package, where do the docs go?
[21:21] <stdin> jussi01: usually in /usr/share/docs, but dpkg -L would tell you
[21:21] <nyp4life> i dont think i can make a full transition to linux if i cant get this figured out.. :(
[21:22] <g2g591> nyp4life: try installing utorrent in wine
[21:22] <shoken> bonsoir
[21:22] <mefisto__> nyp4life: is ktorrent using the same port no. as utorrent in windows?
[21:22] <nyp4life> ive heard wine is buggy.. ill do that if there's no other solution but is there any other way
[21:23] <shoken> des francais ici ?
[21:23] <g2g591> nyp4life: utorrent works fine in wine, wine doesn't do well with other apps
[21:23] <nyp4life> yea should i try a different port?
[21:23] <stdin> !fr | shoken
[21:23] <ubotu> shoken: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:23] <mefisto__> nyp4life: no, if that port works in utorrent/windows, it should work in ktorrent
[21:24] <nyp4life> hmm.. i think im gonna try utorrent with wine n come back if it kicks me off again..
[21:24] <nyp4life> thanks guys
[21:25] <axel> Hello! I got a question about kdesvn. I can't checkout a repository into a working copy. The repository was created as follows: File > Subversion-Admin > Create and open a new repository. As location I selected a local folder. That seemed to work. Now I want to checkout this repository into a local folder using: Subversion > Common > Checkout of a repository. This does not work. Although I've chosen the right directories for repository and working
[21:25] <axel> directory. There is an error message saying that the repository was not a working copy. If I switch the two directories there is another error message saying that the working copy is not a working copy.
[21:28] <axel> add: If I try to open the working directory using File > Open there is an error message saying that the project archive can not be opened. So I checked the rights of this directory but the user I am working with can read and write the directora and in addition it is the owner of it.
[21:28] <nyp4life> while i wait for wine.. im also having audio problems.. as in NO audio whatsoever
[21:29] <mefisto__> nyp4life: new install?
[21:29] <nyp4life> yes
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !sound | nyp4life
[21:30] <ubotu> nyp4life: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:30] <adam_> !ac97
[21:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ac97 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <mefisto__> nyp4life: there's a "test sound" button in system settings too. You should hear something if it's working
[21:31] <sourcemaker> are there openoffice specialists here?
[21:32] <axel> sourcemaker: I'm not really a specialist but I can try to help you
[21:33] <sourcemaker> axel: I have a lot of documentations... and I will convert them to pdf via command line...
[21:33] <adz21c> axel: have u started the subversion server and connecting to that?
[21:33] <sourcemaker> open document => update All => convert to PDF?
[21:35] <sourcemaker> I did'nt find a working macro
[21:36] <axel> sourcemaker: Please stay on. I'm searching in the man-pages.
[21:36] <sourcemaker> axel: thank you
[21:37] <ibou> is there a way with konsole or adept to look for useless packages ?
[21:37] <sourcemaker> ibou: there is a autoclean paramter
[21:37] <g2g591> ibou: thats autoremove
[21:38] <g2g591> ibou: but autoclean removes outdated packages from your cache (they take up space and are useless)
[21:38] <mefisto__> they are not useless if you want to reinstall a package you've removed
[21:39] <g2g591> mefisto__: but the also have old versions too
[21:39] <mefisto__> ditto
[21:40] <ibou> sourcemaker: autoclean in  konsole or adpt ?
[21:40] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get autoclean
[21:40] <axel> sourcemaker: there is -pt. It prints an document on a printer. If you choose the pdf-Printer of kde this could work. I don't know it, as I have not tried it before.
[21:40] <ibou> mefisto same with aptitude ?
[21:40] <enry> goodbye!
[21:41] <axel> adz21c: As far as I know kdesvn does it automatically. (starting the svn-server)
[21:41] <axel> adz21c: or am I wrong?
[21:41] <mefisto__> ibou: I think so. "aptitude --help" should show you the options available
[21:42] <adz21c> axel: i couldn't say, but kdesvn works fine for me but i launch the server manually
[21:42] <ibou> g2g591: i sould use "sudo apt-get autoremove" alone ?
[21:43] <sourcemaker> ibou: autoremove clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. autoclean  remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed
[21:43] <mefisto__> sourcemaker: isn't it the other way around?
[21:44] <mefisto__> autoremove removes (uninstalls) packages
[21:44] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: hm.. yes... sorry
[21:44] <sourcemaker> mefisto__: my mistake
[21:44] <ibou> ok thanks
[21:44] <sourcemaker> ibou: man apt-get :-)
[21:48] <jorge__> hola
[21:52] <LinaLove> hey :)
[21:53] <Tecumseh> hi there
[21:53] <LinaLove> okay.. so i guess this is the most stupid question ever, but how do i open a ssh session with kubuntu? :|
[21:54] <Tecumseh> start the terminal and then issue ssh -h
[21:55] <LinaLove> thanks (:
[21:56] <mefisto__> Tecumseh: what's the -h for?
[21:57] <Tecumseh> just tested it, it doesn't work, it should've been help
[21:57] <Tecumseh> ssh --help does work though
[21:57] <axel> mefisto__: help This command shows you the options you have.
[21:57] <mefisto__> ok, I see
[22:00] <tati> hola?
[22:00] <axel> adz21c: checking out a repository from the i-net worked.
[22:01] <adz21c> axel: ok 1 mo i just test something
[22:02] <axel> adz21c: OK. Thanks.
[22:03] <adz21c> what u putting as the URL when checking out?
[22:03] <mrdigital> i need a accounting program for linux anyone got suggestions?
[22:04] <paule118>  i need a accounting program for linux anyone
[22:04] <Karti> mrdigital: gnucash?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !u
[22:04] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:04] <mrdigital> gnucash is it good?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> gnucash is probably as good as you'll find right now
[22:04] <Karti> my wife uses ms money but when she looked at it she was quite impressed
[22:05] <Karti> no harm in downloading and trying it
[22:05] <mrdigital> im trying windows versioj
[22:05] <Karti> there is also kmymoney
[22:06] <mrdigital> this is for business
[22:06] <Karti> all depends what you want it for
[22:06] <mrdigital> to invoice customers. etc
[22:06] <mrdigital> purchase orders
[22:06] <Karti> gnucash does that as well
[22:06] <mrdigital> i want something like peachtree
[22:06] <paule118>  i need a accounting program &&%
[22:06] <adz21c> axel: what's the URL you're entering? a local dir?
[22:06] <Karti> there is an irc channel - #gnucash who could also help and asist you
[22:06] <axel> adz21c: yes.
[22:06] <mrdigital> paule118: u need a accounting program?
[22:07] <paule118> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[22:08] <paule118> jes for skype
[22:09] <axel> adz21c: I DIT IT!!!
[22:10] <axel> adz21c: I meant: I DID IT!!! ;)
[22:10] <adz21c> axel: how?
[22:10] <adz21c> axel: cos i have to launch the server each time lol
[22:11] <axel> adz21c: It seems this is a bug.
[22:12] <axel> adz21c: First you have to open the repository you want to checkout. Then Subversion > Repository > Checout current repository path.
[22:13] <adz21c> axel: So I file -> open -> file://my/repo/path, then go via that menu?
[22:14] <_Angelus_> guys
[22:14] <_Angelus_> why isnt kiba-dock available on kubuntu?
[22:15] <Nachtvogel> Hi
[22:15] <axel> adz21c: Yes.
[22:15] <adz21c> axel: doesn't work for me,when i files -> open it opens the dir as if it was a working copy
[22:16] <adz21c> axel: nothing important the server launches when i start PC anyway, just curious
[22:16] <axel> adz21c: The only difference is, that instead of file:// there is ksvn+file:/
[22:16] <adz21c> ok
[22:16] <adz21c> i try that one mo
[22:17] <norv> is there a reason why nspluginviewer in Konqueror segfaults while trying to play flash movies?
[22:17] <ere4si> !kiba dock
[22:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:17] <_Angelus_> !kiba
[22:17] <adz21c> axel: nah still doesn't work for me, oh well :-)
[22:18] <hola> some one knows how to share pppoe conncetion between client and host
[22:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:18] <Junkie> Hey, is there an easy way to install KDE4 easily from kubuntu? (feisty)
[22:18] <mrdigital> gnucash isnt really good
[22:18] <adz21c> Junkie: I don't think kubuntu provides the packages, so unless someone else does I would imagine not
[22:19] <Junkie> Meh, I didn't think so, thanks anyway.
[22:19] <norv> Konqueror's Gnash plugin isn't that good (because Gnash really doesn't work all that well), that's why I'm asking
[22:19] <adz21c> Junkie: you could try downloaded the source packages and compiling it yourself, might need to upgrade some of your libs
[22:19] <norv> KDE is hell to compile
[22:19] <mau> Junkie: i don't recommend to use it, try it out with a liveCD
[22:19] <Junkie> I'm mucto lasy :)
[22:19] <adz21c> is it? i didn't find it that hard
[22:19] <Junkie> much to*
[22:19] <Junkie> too**
[22:22] <enzo> i've installed  kubuntu-restricted-extras, i restart firefox, but flash plugin is not installed, what have i missed ?
[22:23] <NickPresta> !flashissues | enzo
[22:23] <ubotu> enzo: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[22:23] <enzo> rg
[22:23] <mir_> How can I use google talk with kubuntu?
[22:24] <norv> I've already installed Flash, so that's a non issue
[22:24] <norv> it works fine in Firefox and I presume other Mozilla-based browsers, the wrapper plugin is just plain broke in Konqueror
[22:24] <enzo> NickPresta: you think i'll be able to do a apt-get upgrade to get last flash plugin when it will be ok ┬¦?
[22:24] <NickPresta> norv, we know. The issue is being worked on
[22:24] <norv> enzo: don't count on it being fixed for a while
[22:25] <enzo> ok, so i install by my own
[22:25] <norv> NickPresta: is there a temporary fix? can I get a downgraded version or something?
[22:25] <norv> enzo: I'm not an authority or anything, but it's been about a month
[22:25] <NickPresta> norv, I don't know if there is a fix, sorry.
[22:25] <mir_> Can someone help me with Google talk in KUBUNTU?
[22:26] <norv> NickPresta: do you know the latest version that /did/ work?
[22:26] <NickPresta> mir_, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol. You can use Pidgin, or anything that supports Jabber.
[22:27] <mir_> thanks, but I have problem with installing
[22:27] <NickPresta> norv, I would imagine the version prior to this one (the broken one). You could look at the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[22:27] <NickPresta> mir_, problems installing what?
[22:28] <nyp4life> ok i got my audio working.. but its very scratchy.. any way to make it cleaner?
[22:28] <norv> NickPresta: thanks
[22:29] <mir_> thanks I have lost the problem
[22:29] <norv> NickPresta: I'll probably be able to find a deb somewhere, at least
[22:29] <NickPresta> mir_, I don't understand what you need help with...
[22:29] <NickPresta> norv, at the very least, you could use checkinstall to compile and create a deb so when the official fix comes, APT will recognize there is an update :)
[22:30] <axel> adz21c: was "is it? i didn't find it that hard" addressed to me?
[22:30] <norv> NickPresta: well, finding an old working tarball might be hard. it won't work from cvs/svn of course (because that's the latest)
[22:31] <adz21c> axel: no someone said kde is hard to compile
[22:32] <norv> NickPresta: I'd like to avoid downloading all of kdebase though.. and the disk space that all the -dev packages will take
[22:33] <doilgheas> hi is there a possibility at akregator to mark news with for example a blue flag like the red flag?
[22:33] <axel> adz21c: IC.
[22:34] <axel> adz21c: Which step did not work?
[22:34] <Cavallito> how to change subtitles size in kaffeine? Is it possible ?
[22:34] <adz21c> axel: it doesn't open the local repo as a repo, it attempts to open as a working dir
[22:34] <norv> NickPresta: okay, latest feisty one fails as well
[22:35] <NickPresta> norv, have you read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[22:35] <axel> adz21c: Ok. First open the repository to check out from in Kdesvn.
[22:36] <adz21c> axel: how do u mean open it? without the server running already it attempts to open a repo as a working dir, thats my problem
[22:36] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[22:37] <ubuntu> I am a newbie and I need some gelp
[22:37] <norv>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[22:37] <ubuntu> help
[22:37] <ubuntu> plz
[22:37] <norv> NickPresta: oops
[22:37] <axel> adz21c: how chan I figure out wether a SVN-server is running?
[22:37] <adz21c> axel: check your processes for svnserve
[22:37] <ubuntu> I would like to know how can I config the sound?
[22:37] <norv> NickPresta: I don't think it's that one, because flash movies work perfectly fine in Firefox
[22:38] <nyp4life> yea i need help with sound too
[22:38] <nyp4life> mp3's sound like crap
[22:38] <araizen> hi guys
[22:38] <axel> adz21c: Question from a beginner: How to view the active processes?
[22:38] <mefisto__> axel: ctrl-esc
[22:38] <araizen> ksysguard no longer shows the process usage %
[22:38] <araizen> how can I get it back
[22:38] <araizen> ?
[22:39] <axel> mefisto__: Thanks!
[22:40] <axel> adz21c: There is no svn-process.
[22:40] <mefisto__> araizen: right-click in the window, show column
[22:40] <adz21c> axel: yea thats what I mean without a server I can't open my local repo as a repo, what do u put as the url?
[22:41] <excitatory> where would be the best place to ask an XGL ATI (ubuntu repo fglrx driver) question?
[22:41] <araizen> got it, thanks mefisto__
[22:41] <nyp4life> audio?
[22:41] <NickPresta> excitatory, if the question is for Kubuntu, you can ask here.
[22:41] <axel> adz21c: ksvn+file:/home/...
[22:41] <adz21c> axel: ok 1 mo
[22:42] <adz21c> axel: says connection refused
[22:43] <axel> adz21c: strange.
[22:44] <ubuntu> do you know where aRts is?
[22:44] <nyp4life> my mp3's sound terrible.. is there any way to make it sound normal?
[22:44] <adz21c> axel: how did u create the repository?
[22:44] <axel> adz21c: In the Open-Dialogue: Try the path /home/... without anything before it.
[22:44] <mefisto__> nyp4life: terrible how?
[22:45] <nyp4life> just really scratchy.. dont sound clean at all
[22:45] <adz21c> axel: same result
[22:45] <mefisto__> nyp4life: and other sounds are ok?
[22:46] <axel> adz21c: I created the repository using Kdesvn: File > Subversion-Admin > Create and open a new repository.
[22:46] <adz21c> axel: i try that, i made mine with cli, one mo
[22:47] <adz21c> axel: thats it
[22:47] <axel> adz21c: does the checkout work as described, too?
[22:47] <excitatory> nyp4life: i know something you could try..
[22:48] <nyp4life> sorry its not only mp3's
[22:48] <excitatory> nyp4life: open up kmix, go to the switches tab, and play with those.  Especially try toggling the various 3d mix switches.
[22:48] <adz21c> axel: yes
[22:49] <nyp4life> video playback isnt as clear as in xp also..
[22:49] <axel> adz21c: great!
[22:51] <nyp4life> 'switches' tab only has channel mode and input source (3 of them)
[22:51] <nyp4life> and 'headphone' and 'iec958' with radio buttons
[22:52] <excitatory> nyp4life: make sure everything looks correct (channels, etc), then also play around with the switches..
[22:53] <excitatory> I had this same issue on a friend's pc, scratchy, almost degraded sound, but once we turned one of the 3d mix settings off, it was clean.
[22:53] <nyp4life> under channel mode there is 6ch and 8ch.. dont really notice a difference..
[22:53] <angelpirate> hey nyp4life
[22:53] <excitatory> yea, that probably wouldn't matter
[22:54] <angelpirate> do you know where is the aRts programme?
[22:54] <nyp4life> k i just unclicked the two 3D buttons from the output tab and it sounds much better
[22:54] <nyp4life> arts program.. no i dont
[22:55] <angelpirate> do you know where I can configure the sound/
[22:55] <angelpirate> ??
[22:55] <excitatory> angelpirate: kmix
[22:55] <theone> Hello - there are better channels for this but ubuntu rocks so I am here. Can anyone offer advice on selecting and moving more than one text box in OpenOffice Writer.
[22:57] <excitatory> theone: holding control then clicking each one?  ctrl-A will select all..which might help too..but I would have to see what you're talking about to know if that would work.
[22:58] <excitatory> theone: when you select each one, you might have to make sure you're clicking near the txt boxes' border so that the little resize/move grabbers appear and actually select the box and not the text inside.
[22:58] <angelpirate> hey  excitatory
[22:58] <excitatory> yes?
[22:58] <theone> exitatory - Yes - that is what I thought too -- for some reason I am having trouble getting the second box to click.
[22:58] <angelpirate> do you know where is the configuration program of the midi/
[22:58] <angelpirate> ??
[23:00] <theone> exitatory-  in other words the grabber doesn't appear. The boxes are not locked. In other programs that is how I do it but I have't tried it with OpenOffice so I thought maybe there was something special.
[23:00] <hdevalence> is there a reason why  kdialog --msgbox "`kdesu apt-get install -y inkscape`"  wouldn't work?
[23:01] <theone> exitatory - what happens is I click one and then when pressing ctrl to click the other - it selects leaving the first one no longer selected.
[23:02] <theone> The little green square boxes appear but transfer from the old box to the new one selected. Also drawing around the boxes with the select tool is not working to highlight multiilpe boxes.
[23:02] <nyp4life> excitatory: were u the one helping me with the torrent issue?
[23:02] <hola> how is it possibile to share pppoe connection between clent and server
[23:02] <mefisto__> angelpirate: system settings>sound. hardware tab. you can choose your midi device (your soundcard, if it has built-in midi)
[23:02] <excitatory> angelpirate: open up kcontrol (way better than the default System Settings), go to the Sound & Multimedia, then Sound System, then Hardware tab
[23:03] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, sudo apt-get install -y inkscape , would be better in the terminal , kdesu is for run programs
[23:03] <excitatory> theone: try shift?  i'm not really sure, i rarely use any office app
[23:03] <excitatory> nyp4life: nope
[23:04] <hdevalence> BluesKaj: yeah, but I don't want to open a terminal -- and inept takes too long to load
[23:04] <nyp4life> lol ok well i have a problem with torrents.. any client i use eventually kicks me off my wireless network
[23:04] <mefisto__> lol inept
[23:04] <nyp4life> utorrent with wine lasted longest (~10 mins)
[23:05] <theone> excitatory - thanks I appreciate it - I have tried and exhausted shift, alt etc. before coming here. I appreciate your effort.
[23:05] <theone> Can you offer a channel maybe that I might find someone who uses this?
[23:05] <Junkie> Hm.... I ran the distro updater and it spent 48 minutes downloading the files and now the windows just disappeared...
[23:05] <bigred> Hello. I am doing a version upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. It is stuck configuring wvdial on the installation phase. It sounds like its a dial-up tool, in which case I do not need it. The error is that it "Failed to open device". Is there a way to skip the current step in the install terminal?
[23:06] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, the run program box is exactly that to run apps aftert installation, not to install them.
[23:06] <hdevalence> BluesKaj: yeah, but I want to run the 'apt-get' program which is already installed
[23:07] <Junkie> Is the updater still running in the background or something?
[23:07] <bigred> Me? Yes
[23:07] <nyp4life> anybody know why my torrent client kicks me off my wireless network?
[23:08] <Junkie> bigred: no, i was refering to my question :P
[23:08] <Junkie> I don't see a window for the updater :|
[23:08] <ere4si> you might have too many peers nyp4life
[23:08] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, apt-get is designed to run in the konsole /terminal , not the run box
[23:09] <hdevalence> yeah, but if I push it hard enough, I could probably get it to work
[23:09] <mefisto__> Junkie: I got the same thing when I upgraded to gutsy. try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:09] <nyp4life> k ill try lowering the global
[23:10] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, afaik that command in the run box will open adept
[23:11] <excitatory> ok, well, I have a question
[23:12] <mohanad> hey,,, how u doin?, I am a bignner at linux (kubunto), I have some problem with sound, I have SB 5.1 the ASLA can identrify  but nothing plays exept this noise, can u help me?
[23:12] <mohanad> any one can help?
[23:13] <Junkie> kubunto :D
[23:13] <excitatory> mohanad: open up kmix and make sure everything looks good (channels, correct output settings, etc)  also, in the switches tab, try turning off the 3D control and 3D mix options
[23:14] <mohanad> ok I will now try it, thanks
[23:15] <BluesKaj> mohanad, try this in the terminal , it's aspeaker test : speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0
[23:18] <axel> adz21c: Thank you!
[23:18] <axel> CU@all!
[23:19] <FaiDillinGer> hi there, anyone knows how to get numlock on when X starts (not when KDE starts, when X starts, at the login manager)
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> !numlock
[23:20] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[23:20] <blizzzek> bye
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> I see that asked a lot.. and ive got NO idea why people always want the numlock on.
[23:21] <thorns> Hey everyone
[23:21] <BluesKaj> prolly have numbers in the login pw
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> so they got one hand on the letter keys. and move the other hand to the numpad just for a few #s? Seems a bit - slow. :)
[23:22] <excitatory> Dr_Willis: well, for one, I always use the numpad when i input numbers.. (when i learned to type, i struggled with learning how to hit the number keys above the letters)
[23:22] <lycoris> Hello
[23:22] <DiceyDaysx> Can someone tell me how do I configure strigi of kde4? Can I even configure it? Thanks
[23:22] <thorns> I want to test Hardy. I've just installed Alpha 4. Now I want to test KDE4. I go about by first installing kde4-core. That shows a rather big dependancy error list. Any ideas?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> could be i type mor eleft handed theni do right. :) i rarely use the numpad. other then its enter key every so often
[23:23] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: in konq, strigi:/configure
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> thorns,  i would not mess with kde4 at this time.   - If you want to toy with it - check out a kde4 live cd.
[23:23] <BluesKaj> !hardy | thorns
[23:23] <ubotu> thorns: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:23] <thorns> No, I really would like to, Dr_Willis.
[23:23] <nyp4life> how do i erase a dvd-rw?
[23:23] <FaiDillinGer> Dr_Willis: as for me it is because my password contains lots of numbers and i sometimes forget to press numlock, so that makes me type nothing instead of my actual pasword
[23:23] <thorns> BluesKaj: Ok, sure.
[23:23] <BluesKaj> nyp4life, , just let the next burn overwrite it
[23:24] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: It says protocal not supported.
[23:24] <nyp4life> i tried that with k3b.. it said write successful but the disc shows the old files
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> thorns,  well kde 4 has its own channel :) and #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[23:24] <mohanad> BluesKaj
[23:24] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: are you sure you spelled strigi:/ correctly?
[23:24] <BluesKaj> mohanad, ?
[23:25] <mohanad> BluesKaj, I have two sound card Via and SB 5.1 how can I choose SB 5.1 as the default card
[23:25] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: copied and pasted it
[23:25] <excitatory> is it installed?
[23:25] <DiceyDaysx> yeah
[23:25] <BluesKaj> mohanad,in the terminal :  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[23:26] <DiceyDaysx> excitatory: It is Find Files/Folders KDE4 in raptor right?
[23:26] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: what does strigi:/status say  (remember, do this in konq)
[23:26] <DiceyDaysx> or is it strigi-client. I seem not to have that installed
[23:27] <excitatory> strigi is installed by default in gutsy
[23:27] <mohanad> BluesKaj, how can I know the correct name of the card?
[23:27] <mefisto__> mohanad: asoundconf list
[23:27] <DiceyDaysx> I installed kde4-core. I usually use gnome, but am trying out kde4.
[23:27] <nyp4life> k3b didn't overwrite the old files on DVD-RW
[23:27] <BluesKaj> mohanad, cat /proc/asound/cards
[23:28] <DiceyDaysx> downloaded strigi client, but no difference.
[23:28] <nyp4life> can i use gnome apps in kde?
[23:29] <excitatory> DiceyDaysx: well, if you're a gnome user, you're much better off using the kde4 livecd.. you might have dependency problems, but it's hard to say.  Also, you're really not missing much, kde 4.0 is mostly a framework release.. it's still pretty ugly.. 4.1+ will be much nicer..
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> nyp4life,  yes.. and visa-versa
[23:29] <nyp4life> thx
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> nyp4life,  they all run on top of X. - you might have some quirks - depending on the app.
[23:29] <kristjan_> !ipv6
[23:29] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[23:30] <kristjan_> hi "ubuntu.com" doesn't load - why?
[23:30] <DiceyDaysx> I like it well enough. Got things working pretty well, other than my icons on the desktop looking weird.
[23:30] <DiceyDaysx> But no prob, I'll just forget about it. What about dragonplayer. I installed that and am wondering how do I run that.
[23:31] <mohanad> BluesKaj, Thanks man, everything is working properly, ur the BEST
[23:33] <BluesKaj> mohanad, YW , glad to help :)
[23:34] <mefisto__> anyone know what sets screen resolution for kdm?
[23:35] <excitatory> mefisto__: usually your xorg.conf file
[23:35] <mefisto__> excitatory: it is supposed to, but doesn't
[23:36] <XceII> how do i get my machine graphics back to vessa so i can see the screen?
[23:37] <BluesKaj> xcell , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:37] <XceII> will that put it back?
[23:38] <BluesKaj> you will have the option
[23:38] <XceII> nice, thank you.
[23:38] <lycoris> Hi
[23:39] <XceII> ill be back, hopefully
[23:39] <mefisto__>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only (re)creates xorg.conf, right?
[23:39] <excitatory> no
[23:39] <excitatory> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:40] <Strangework> I am attempting to have Kubuntu load up Compiz-Fusion and the Avant-Window-Navigator as soon as I bootup, the problem is, the only way I know how to do this is by creating a bash script in ~/.kde/Autostart. This generates some problems because this sometimes prevents the power manager from appearing in the taskbar. Is there an alternative to this?
[23:40] <mefisto__> can I reconfig xserver, without changing xorg.conf?
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> mefisto__,  xorg.conf is what holds all the xserver configs....
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> mefisto__,  what are you want ing to change exactly?
[23:42] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, reconfiguring it will change some parameters depending on the options you choose
[23:43] <excitatory> Strangework: this isn't perfect, but try appending an & to your compiz command, make a new line, sleep 5&, new line, dcop kicker kicker restart
[23:43] <mefisto__> Dr_Willis: kdm is always 1024x768, even if I only have 1280x1024 in xorg.conf
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Strangework,  put a delay in the script - so the powermanager has time to startup?
[23:45] <mefisto__> Dr_Willis: if I log out after startup, kdm is at the correct 1280x1024, but on first startup it's 1024x768
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> I thouhg i saw a checkbox or some setting tool in kde to set a specific res as the default for the system. But i dont have the problem. So not sure if thats a fix or not
[23:51] <excitatory> mefisto__: you know.. my kdm was doing that for a while.  I think i just commented out the modeline in the xorg.conf and it fixed it.
[23:51] <mefisto__> excitatory: so you have no modelines?
[23:52] <excitatory> no, they've been pretty useless for a while, unless you're using certain configurations with open drivers
[23:57] <excitatory> argh, whenever a kernel is updated, it always sets my grub config to boot from (hd1,0) and not (hd0,0) like it should be.. (i can manually fix it, but i have to do this after every kernel update..)
[23:58] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, have you tried the admin mode in system settings/monitor & display/resolution ?
[23:59] <ahmos> !java
[23:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.