| dholbach | good morning | 07:39 |
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| smagoun | moblin-applets in hardy depends on libhildon1>=2.0.1, which isn't in hardy (hardy instead has libhildon-1-0. That dependency isn't explicit in the debian/control file, so presumably a builder did the wrong thing? What's the right way to fix? | 15:17 |
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| patm | Fenario, let me know if you get my swap day request, it complained when I submitted it | 15:46 |
| smagoun | StevenK: ^^^^^^ it's only 0300 there, why aren't you still at work?? :P | 16:02 |
| smagoun | Mithrandir: ^^^^ re: moblin-applets | 16:29 |
| ComradeHaz | Hi gents. I trust I'm right in my belief ubuntu-mobiles not made it onto the HTC tytn II aka Kaiser aka AT&T Tilt | 16:48 |
| ComradeHaz | ?? | 16:48 |
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| amitk | ComradeHaz: you are correct | 17:34 |
| ComradeHaz | ta | 17:36 |
| ComradeHaz | sucks to be right ;) | 17:36 |
| amitk | heh | 17:42 |
| d4ri0 | does a phone stack mostly use AT commands over a serial port? | 17:57 |
| Mithrandir | smagoun: file a bug; we need to adjust the shlibs and rebuild moblin-applets. | 18:06 |
| smagoun | Mithrandir: thanks, I'll file a bug. The problem's actually in libhildon's rules file, I guess that's worth a bug too. | 18:21 |
| ChickenCutlass | Mithrandir, Do you think it is ok to add an entry in NetworkManager's dbus config to allow the user ume access? | 18:23 |
| ChickenCutlass | Mithrandir, By doing so it fixes the nm-applet bug we talked about last week | 18:24 |
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| raji | tonyespy, you there? | 18:38 |
| raji | tonyespy_, you there? | 18:40 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: yes | 18:40 |
| raji | tonyespy_, how did the testing go with marvel v9 driver? | 18:40 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: I didn't get much further... right now I'm trying to get our modified network-manager and nm-applet into the mobile ppa for hardy | 18:42 |
| raji | tonyespy_, I see , then I will test that today.. | 18:42 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: test the v9 driver? | 18:43 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: on gutsy? | 18:43 |
| raji | tonyespy_,yes | 18:43 |
| raji | tonyespy_, yes | 18:43 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: OK... | 18:44 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: FYI, we're trying to switch to Hardy this week and it appears the v9 drivers aren't in Hardy. I just cc'd you on an email to robr and crew... | 18:45 |
| raji | tonyespy_, Another question, while rootcausing the 'create new network', I see that iw_set_ext in nm_device_802_11_wireless_set_mode is returning error, I used wext driver option for wpa_supplicant, | 18:46 |
| raji | tonyespy_,ok | 18:46 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: with v8 or v9? | 18:46 |
| raji | tonyespy_ with ath_pci | 18:47 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: that's the name of the module, not the version | 18:47 |
| tonyespy_ | if you're using v8, you have to use the marvell-specific driver module in wpa_supplicant | 18:48 |
| tonyespy_ | I'm not sure it's worh testing with v8 | 18:48 |
| raji | tonyespy_, I am testing with ath_pci on my samsung q1 ,not on our release hardware menlow... | 18:50 |
| raji | tonyesp_, it is ath_pci 0.9 | 18:51 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: Oh... ath_pci is the low-level module of the madwifi stack. madwifi has very poor support for adhoc, so you probably won't get too far. | 18:51 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: you have to manually switch the mode of the driver from infrastructure to adhoc-demo | 18:52 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: even then it may not play with other non-Atheros wifi cards | 18:52 |
| raji | tonyespy_, I changed the wireless interface to use adhoc mode and changed the code to use 'wext' instead of madwifi | 18:52 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: you would be *much* better off trying to test using the v9 driver on a crown beach... | 18:52 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: I'm pretty sure "adhoc" mode doesn't work, however the separate "adhoc-demo" mode does.... | 18:53 |
| raji | tonyespy_, I am not aware of that 'adhoc_demo', is it a mode | 18:53 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: I haven't worked with madwifi for awhile... so most of this is from what I recall on the madwifi mailing list. | 18:54 |
| raji | tonyespy_ will try that on crown beach.. | 18:55 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: again, I think you're better off working with the Marvell / Crown beach combination cause that's what our customers will be using. adhoc is tied very tightly to the driver being used. | 18:55 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: keep me posted | 18:56 |
| raji | tonyespy_, another question , networkmanager 0.6.5 dont have ability to configure static ip , is it worth trying to root cause this as it anyway fails in the stage 5 | 18:57 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: right now, there's no plan to do anymore work on nm 0.6.5. If I were testing adhoc, I'd do so first without NM or wpa_supplicant and just try and use iwconfig/iwpriv, etc... | 18:59 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: I'm not even sure adhoc works for *any* drivers in 0.6.5. | 18:59 |
| raji | tonyespy_, 0.6.5 doesnt support adhoc with 'any' driver, then I can just make sure if driver supports it or not . | 19:02 |
| raji | tonyespy_, ok , I will try it on crownbeach and see what happens..I will let you know.. | 19:03 |
| tonyespy_ | raji: correct. If the driver doesn't support it, then it's pointless to try it with NM and wpa_supplicant. Good luck! | 19:04 |
| d4ri0 | raji: 'ahdemo' mode is not 802.11 standard so it won't work with other cards unless they support it | 20:04 |
| d4ri0 | raji: people like ahdemo (as opposed to ad-hoc) because there are no beacons, and the stations do not need to be associated in order to receive | 20:05 |
| smagoun_ | bfiller__: I pushed a fix to bzr, but it doesn't show up on launchpad yet. Do you know if there's supposed to be a delay before my revision shows up on LP? | 20:25 |
| smagoun_ | StevenK: Please rebuild libhildon for Hardy to fix LP: 189041 | 20:28 |
| bfiller__ | smagoun_: yes, there will be a slight delay | 20:30 |
| bfiller__ | StevenK: please build hildon-desktop as well as the patches are done | 20:31 |
| smagoun_ | StevenK: Please rebuild moblin-applets too (LP: 189058) | 20:32 |
| StevenK | smagoun, bfiller__: The simplest way is to either push the changes to bzr, and then ping me a lot to upload it, or just tell me what I screwed up and let me fix it. I'll fix libhildon, and wait for it to get published, and then rebuild moblin-applets, and then I'll look at hildon-desktop. | 21:44 |
| smagoun | StevenK: I pushed the libhildon change to bzr already, it just needs uploading | 21:46 |
| StevenK | smagoun: I saw that, thanks so much. | 21:47 |
| StevenK | smagoun: And to answer your implied question about your push not showing up on Launchpad, it does take a little while to appear. | 21:47 |
| smagoun | StevenK: I can give you a .dsc or a debdiff for the moblin-applets rebuild. I wasn't sure whether it's easier for you to use one of those or just do the rebuild yourself. | 21:47 |
| smagoun | StevenK: thanks. I figured it out after a couple minutes of F5F5F5F5 :) | 21:48 |
| StevenK | smagoun: To be completly honest, it's very easy to trigger a rebuild (it's only a new changelog entry), so I'll just fix it. | 21:49 |
| smagoun | ok, that's what I figured | 21:49 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Maybe we want to think about putting moblin-applets into bzr? | 21:49 |
| smagoun | StevenK: we could do that, sure. | 21:50 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Right, libhildon uploaded. It will take until :04 or so to show up as published, and then another publisher cycle for the binaries. I have to wait until that publisher run is done before uploading moblin-applets or hildon-desktop. | 21:51 |
| smagoun | StevenK: thanks much. Our nightly build will pick up the changes automatically at about 0800UTC | 21:52 |
| StevenK | smagoun: About moblin-applets, let's play wait and see -- see how much stuff we need to change in it, and how much work we have to do together on it. | 21:52 |
| StevenK | smagoun: At 0800UTC I should have all three (and *hopefully* libosso) sorted out. | 21:53 |
| smagoun | ok, that works too. We're fine working with patches for now. | 21:53 |
| * StevenK kicks tomboy. | 21:54 | |
| smagoun | StevenK: BTW I filed bug 189058 for the moblin-applets rebuild | 22:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 189058 in moblin-applets "Rebuild moblin-applets to fix bad libhildon dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189058 | 22:09 |
| bfiller__ | StevenK: for some reason, debuild still fails even after fetching fresh hildon-desktop unless I use -i.bzr. What can I do to fix this? | 22:10 |
| bfiller__ | StevenK: did I forget to commit something? | 22:10 |
| StevenK | bfiller__: No, the reason it fails is because it can't represent the changes to the files under .bzr | 22:12 |
| bfiller__ | StevenK: how do I fix that? | 22:13 |
| StevenK | bfiller__: Export it from bzr as opposed to pulling -- you won't be able to push things into bzr from that one, but you won't have to add -i.bzr | 22:13 |
| bfiller__ | StevenK: ok, thanks | 22:15 |
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| Mithrandir | ChickenCutlass_: no, we should fix it so that when the desktop session starts, pam_foreground knows you're on the console. | 22:22 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Still around? | 22:24 |
| smagoun | StevenK: yup | 22:24 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Can you check git for m-i-c and see if fsets for m{ccaslin,enlow}-hardy-whatever still mention moblin-chat? | 22:25 |
| smagoun | StevenK: Only the mccaslin-lpia and menlow-lpia fsets mention moblin-chat. I think this is correct. | 22:26 |
| StevenK | Sounds good to me. | 22:27 |
| StevenK | smagoun: When did you want to get the new m-i-c into Hardy? | 22:27 |
| StevenK | smagoun: I have to upload it to fix mccaslin (since I'm a bozo), but if you're ready for the new shiny upstream, we can push that in. | 22:28 |
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| smagoun | StevenK: anytime. I expect it might need to be coordinated with Mithrandir; I don't know how the nightly build gets its MIC, and the configs changed incompatibly at some point recently. | 22:29 |
| smagoun | nightly build=the Ubuntu nightly; we have our MIC built for gutsy here | 22:29 |
| smagoun | StevenK: If you want to push your fix now we can deal with shiny upstream later on. I don't want to lose out on MOTU points though! :) | 22:30 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Right, I've pushed my fix. | 22:33 |
| smagoun | StevenK: OK. What was your fix? do I need to redo the 0.40 package? | 22:40 |
| StevenK | smagoun: My fix was to take the changes I made for menlow's fsets to the mccaslin fset. | 22:40 |
| StevenK | smagoun: Which was in the diff I sent you | 22:40 |
| smagoun | ok, I think I pushed those into all the fsets save the moblin ones for 0.40, so we should be all set. | 22:41 |
| StevenK | Yay! | 22:43 |
| smagoun | StevenK: I'm heading home, send me email if you need anything | 22:44 |
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