[00:11] <[reed]> asac: http://ventnorsblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-do-i-notes-release.html
[00:11] <[reed]> can you get that corrected?
[00:11] <[reed]> thanks
[06:48] <Ubulette> [reed], where?
[07:44] <[reed]> Ubulette: ?
[08:59] <asac> hi
[09:08] <asac> [reed]: i asked ... lets see ;)
[12:13] <asac> ok, lets redo security uploads :(
[16:55] <alinon> is there an easy way to increase the amount of lines used on the mouse scroll wheel?
[18:36] <Ubulette> hi
[18:37] <Ubulette> asac, the display corruption is gone for me using the debs from my ppa
[18:57] <asac> Ubulette: cool ... so its cairo?
[18:57] <asac> I'll try :)
[19:01] <asac> hmm .. 1.5.8 has been sponsored already?
[19:04] <Ubulette> well, it's in but once again, not sponsored
[19:06] <Ubulette> i explicitly requested a sponsorship, and I expected seb128 to tell me if he was not happy with something, he didn't :(
[19:07] <asac> ask him if he wants you to do work on libcairo again ... or if he just missed that bug
[19:07] <asac> maybe he has some automated upgrade thing
[19:07] <Ubulette> that's not what I mean.
[19:08] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/cairo/1.5.8-0ubuntu1
[19:10] <asac> i (still) think its a problem of how launchpads calculates credits (e.g. it doesn't show up in your +packages though it should). for almost everybody having [ Name ] in changelog is definitly as much worth as signing an upload
[19:11] <Ubulette> i don't see how lp could infer a lp login from a free form text field
[19:12] <asac> by name ... maybe one can add the email to that place?
[19:14] <asac> i will talk to launchpad people about this when i get a grib on someone
[19:15] <Ubulette> could you sponsor that: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/debdiff/gnome-control-center_2.21.90-0ubuntu1--2.21.90-0ubuntu2.debdiff   seb was ok last friday yet it didn't do it today
[19:16] <Ubulette> and he's not there now
[19:17] <Ubulette> even thursday
[19:19] <asac> Ubulette: is there a bug?
[19:20] <Ubulette> no, want one ?
[19:20] <asac> would be good to track review .... let me look at the debdiff
[19:20] <Ubulette> tiny
[19:22] <asac> Ubulette: hmm point is we will ship a link soon ... i think then two entries would pop-up there ... so we probably would need to back that out once we do the full transition
[19:22] <Ubulette> you mean, drop ff2 soon ?
[19:22] <asac> yes this week is my plan :)
[19:22] <asac> (well waiting for beta3)
[19:23] <Ubulette> i'm not sure it's such a good idea. most people depends on extensions... and ff3 is still poor in that regard
[19:24] <Ubulette> not to mention addons are kinda broken right now
[19:24] <Ubulette> and a lof of plugin work is still needed
[19:24] <asac> sure ... i would love to just demote firefox to universe and keep both usable at the same time, but i currently don't see how
[19:25] <asac> Ubulette: well ... totem is done here ... i am waiting for the final transition to upload because it can onl ybe installed either/or
[19:25] <asac> the rest of the plugins i tried worked in both
[19:25] <asac> because they (wisely) don't use xpcom
[19:25] <asac> yo know of any other plugin that breaks?
[19:26] <Ubulette> are they all linked properly now ?
[19:27] <asac> well as long as they work we can even build them against xulrunner 1.8 if they are in universe
[19:27] <asac> (not saying that thats my preferred plan)
[19:27] <Ubulette> what about sun-java5-plugin/sun-java6-plugin, ubufox, listen, ... ?
[19:28] <asac> listen is universe ... i have a patch for that
[19:28] <asac> ubufox is done locally
[19:28] <asac> sun plugins should work (don't they)?
[19:28] <asac> and are not in main either
[19:28] <Ubulette> they depend on ff2
[19:28] <Ubulette> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:28] <Ubulette>   firefox firefox-dbg firefox-dom-inspector firefox-gnome-support
[19:28] <Ubulette>   firefox-launchpad-plugin firefox-libthai listen sun-java5-plugin
[19:28] <Ubulette>   sun-java6-plugin ubufox
[19:29] <asac> yes ... for now i care to finish main ... then rebuild all against xulrunner 1.9 and if that doesn't work easily, just build against xulrunner 1.8
[19:29] <asac> (which should work because debian uses xulrunner 1.8)
[19:29] <asac> Ubulette: i think for sun plugins its just an Depends += | xulrunner-1.9 and installing it in the right place
[19:30] <Ubulette> maybe
[19:30] <asac> afaik doko takes care for that
[19:31] <asac> point is the call for porting went out long time ago ... if MOTUs didn't do their tasks yet they probably need some brokeness to get encouraged :)
[19:31] <asac> listen isn't fair, i know ... thats why i will do the port
[19:32] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4174/ ... those are the firefox rdepends
[19:33] <Ubulette> we also need the locales...
[19:33] <asac> i think those with | in front are recommends or suggests ... they most likely just need a firefox
[19:33] <asac> binary to work well
[19:33] <asac> Ubulette: yes, someone else is already dealing with that :)
[19:33] <asac> his name is carlos and he is confident that we get automatic locale exports from launchpad for firefox and thunderbird this release
[19:34] <asac> i think he starts this week to work on that
[19:34] <asac> if that doesn't happen we still have a long time before we reach translation freeze
[19:35] <asac> but i want to keep the pressure on him ... uploading locales doesn't contribute to make that happen imo :)
[19:35] <Ubulette> [reed], is there a plan to do the gnome-vfs to gio/gvfs transition before ff3 final ?
[19:35] <asac> all the extensions will have to go
[19:35] <[reed]> Ubulette: no
[19:36] <asac> we have to reconsider which will be shipped and which not
[19:36] <asac> i will write a blog entry asking contributors to help figure out if the most popular ones meat our criterias
[19:43] <asac> wow ... firefox-3.0 just consumed 1138% of CPU :)
[19:43] <asac> (while shutting down top showed that stat to me)
[19:44] <asac> Ubulette: is capplets in your archive?
[19:44] <Ubulette> nope
[19:45] <asac> strange
[19:45] <asac> ok its part of control center:
[19:45] <asac> pool/main/g/gnome-control-center/capplets-data_2.21.90-0ubuntu2~fta1_all.deb
[19:46] <Ubulette> oh, ok
[19:48] <asac> mozilla bug 344818
[19:48] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 344818 in Build Config "Linking - missing library deps" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344818
[19:50] <Ubulette> still no answer from vlad :(
[19:51] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 390025 is moving again
[19:51] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 390025 in XP Apps "Move to LoginManager and remove wallet from SeaMonkey" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390025
[19:52] <Ubulette> still far from libxul though
[19:53] <asac> yep
[19:53] <[reed]> ok, I just moved mozilla bug 344818 and requested blocking
[19:53] <[reed]> I'll poke vlad
[19:53] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 344818 in Build Config "Linking - missing library deps" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344818
[19:53] <asac> Ubulette: so does the AMO search not find anything because of our app name? i though it should use the app-id
[19:53] <asac> or are there just no ffox 3 compatible extensions yet?
[19:53]  * asac hugs [reed] 
[19:54] <[reed]> what's your app name?
[19:54] <[reed]> all you Linux people owe me something good
[19:54] <[reed]> :p
[19:54] <[reed]> ;)
[19:54]  * [reed] isnt paid to work on this like you are!
[19:54] <[reed]> isn't*
[19:54] <Ubulette> i'm not either
[19:57] <Ubulette> asac, compared to a nighlty from yesterday, showing me only 1 addon, my ppa shows nothing as that addon is installed (viamatic foxpose) so it matches
[19:57] <Ubulette> i've patched that appname thing
[19:59] <asac> Ubulette: you sure its the app name? i mean usually AMO looks at the app-id, which should be the same
[19:59] <Ubulette> the bogus url showed firefox-3.0, changing that to firefox fixed it
[20:00] <Ubulette> i've tried that url manually, it's the expected xml chunk
[20:01] <asac> ok
[20:02] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4176/
[20:04] <[reed]> yeah, that sounds like a personal problem :)
[20:04] <[reed]> why did you all change that?
[20:05] <Ubulette> because we've change %APP%
[20:05] <Ubulette> changed
[20:05] <Ubulette> to have a dedicated profile name
[20:07] <[reed]> ah
[20:07] <asac> yeah ... we will fix it in the end :)
[20:08] <Ubulette> it's just a patch to drop.. but then, what about all the profile dirs ?
[20:10] <asac> Ubulette: black magic :)
[20:13] <asac> Ubulette: I will have the solution tomorrow ... today i burned myself too much for security stuff that finally will get released later :/
[20:13] <[reed]> asac: for .12?
[20:13] <asac> yes
[20:13] <[reed]> yeah, they just pushed to beta channel earlier today
[20:13]  * [reed] looks at his mail
[20:14] <[reed]> "Firefox 2.0.0.12rc4 is available on beta channel since 11.26am."
[20:15] <asac> yes :) ... well now i am ready with that at least
[20:20] <[reed]> hehe
[20:20] <armin76> fail
[20:35] <asac> Ubulette: addons search still doesn't work for me with your package: greasemonkey is not found (but maybe i am just missing something)
[20:35] <asac> but greasemonkey is 3.0b3 in AMO
[20:35] <asac> and works
[20:35] <Ubulette> is it in the recommended list ?
[20:36] <asac> funny thing is that i see "See all search results(14)", but clicking there, doesn't change a thing
[20:36] <asac> Ubulette: no the recommendation list is empty too
[20:36] <asac> "All recommendations are already installed or incompatible"
[20:40] <Ubulette> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newURI]"  nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://global/content/contentAreaUtils.js :: openURL :: line 894"  data: no]
[20:44] <asac> Ubulette: btw, does ephy still work for with latest xul?
[20:45] <Ubulette> yes
[20:45] <asac> needed a respin or what?
[20:46] <Ubulette> epi from hardy works with my xul/nss
[20:46] <asac> hmm after a rebuild it appears to work. but maybe that was just my broken installs here
[20:46] <Ubulette> donno for hardy's nss
[20:47] <asac> strange ... ok
[20:48] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4178/
[20:48] <asac> sometimes it crashes after trying to open an url
[20:48] <asac> ... but usally just nothing happens
[20:50] <asac> Ubulette: still get corruption
[20:51] <asac> oh wait
[20:52] <Ubulette> hm, at work, it stopped immediately after the upgrade, and not a single corruption during the day
[20:52] <asac> for me its easiest to reproduce by editing wiki.ubuntu.com ... then hitting Preview
[20:52] <asac> the preview iframe will be corrupted
[20:53] <asac> [reed]: i think i already asked: do you see that ^^
[20:53] <asac> oh .. rightg you don't have the right driver
[20:53] <asac> sorry for the noise
[20:53] <[reed]> I use the proprietary ATI driver
[20:53] <asac> really?
[20:53] <Ubulette> asac, try a nighlty then
[20:53] <asac> [reed]: i use it too and see this, but you don't have hardy, right?
[20:53] <[reed]> yes, I kinda need my video card to work
[20:53] <[reed]> no, gutsy
[20:54] <[reed]> I'll take a look in a sec
[20:54] <asac> should be safe to upgrade :)
[20:54]  * asac has no idea, but [reed] doesn't know :)
[20:54] <[reed]> lol
[20:54] <asac> Ubulette: nightly of what?
[20:54] <Ubulette> ff
[20:54] <[reed]> I might put hardy on my new laptop
[20:55] <asac> Ubulette: well at least xul from 2 hours ago has the same issue too
[20:55] <Ubulette> i have an ATI at work too
[20:55] <Ubulette> using fglrx
[20:55] <asac> no idea if firefox can actually something like this
[20:55] <asac> (just xul i assume)
[20:56] <Ubulette> ?
[20:56] <asac> Ubulette: i have xul from 2 hours and still see it ;) in the latest firefox-3.0 from ~fta
[20:57] <Ubulette> hm, strange
[20:58] <asac> let me see what else is waiting in update-manager
[21:00] <Ubulette> epi doesn't quit on "File / Close"
[21:03] <asac> hmm ... i nevr landed the login manager fix in bzr?
[21:04] <Ubulette> xul ? epi ?
[21:04] <asac> xul
[21:05] <asac> current ephy in archive has a workaround
[21:05] <asac> apparently i forgot ... ok
[21:19] <Ubulette> is it still useful ?
[21:20] <asac> until the login manager patch is in xul yes
[21:45] <Ubulette> cvs is damn slow tonight
[21:54] <[reed]> cvs-mirror?
[21:54] <[reed]> .m.o