[01:07] <usererror56> I am having difficulty getting a frontend only to connect to the smb shares on the backend.  Anyone have a few minutes to offer some tips?
[01:13] <superm1> thanks rhpot1991
[01:17] <usererror56> the new front end connects to the sql database just fine, but i cannot figure out how to get it to play the saved videos on the backend from the frontend.  it keeps looking on the local hard drive instead of over the network....liveCD works just fine and asks me for the share names but i cannot find in the frontend setup where to put in the share names for the backend.
[02:34] <Technobabble> does anyone know off the top of their head what settings the PVR 150 uses or could point me to a setup.  i've got it working but it's got like a 5 second latency
[02:36] <usererror56> for video or sound?
[02:36] <Technobabble> video
[02:37] <usererror56> i am not sure then, i had an audio issue on a diff card.
[02:37] <onesojourner> can some one help me with vnc
[02:39] <usererror56> if you're trying to VNC back to a frontend i'd like to know how to set it up correctly too, manually. :)
[02:45] <superm1> manually?
[02:45] <superm1> why not just use the automatic method
[02:45] <superm1> and what's happening onesojourner
[02:47] <usererror56> i don't know what the correct vnc package to install is for enabling a vnc server on my front end.
[02:47] <superm1> vnc4server
[02:47] <superm1> mcc will configure and install it though for you....
[02:48] <usererror56> i'll check as soon as this game is over!
[02:48] <usererror56> thanks!
[02:48] <superm1> yup
[04:24] <Tuv0k> updates
[04:24] <Tuv0k> trunk
[04:29] <Tuv0k> superm1, it does not want to update my database
[04:39] <superm1> Tuv0k, which trunk updates?
[04:44] <Tuv0k> from the update I just did
[04:44] <superm1> yes i understand that
[04:44] <superm1> but be more specific
[04:44] <superm1> trunk on hardy?
[04:44] <superm1> or trunk on gutsy
[04:44] <Tuv0k> yes sorry
[04:44] <superm1> which one
[04:45] <Tuv0k> checking
[04:46] <Tuv0k> 0.8-0ubuntu1
[04:47] <Tuv0k> trunk 15689
[04:47] <Tuv0k> 0.20.99+trun15689-0ubuntu3
[05:06] <superm1> okay so you got the one from hardy today
[05:07] <superm1> try stopping mythbackend, and doing mythtv-setup in a terminal
[05:13] <Tuv0k> k
[05:17] <Tuv0k> it keeps dying at the upgrade attempt
[05:18] <Tuv0k>  Restarting MythTV server: mythbackend                                                                                                   No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.
[05:18] <Tuv0k> QSettings: error creating /home/mythtv/.qt
[05:19] <Tuv0k>  Tried to connect to session manager, Authentication Rejected,
[05:19] <Tuv0k> the mythfilldatabase runs fine though
[05:19] <Tuv0k>  None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[05:21] <superm1> even in mythtv-setup?
[05:22] <superm1> can you get some verbosity to where it's failling?
[05:22] <superm1> are your SQL tables clean?
[08:29] <Tuv0k> going to reboot
[08:41] <Tuv0k> Driver error was [2/145]:
[08:41] <Tuv0k> QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query
[08:41] <Tuv0k> Database error was:
[08:41] <Tuv0k> Table './mythconverg/recordedseek' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
[08:52] <superm1> bingo
[08:53] <superm1> so there's your problem
[08:53] <superm1> repair your tables
[08:53] <superm1> and try again
[08:59] <Tuv0k> how do I do that sup?
[09:23] <Tuv0k> superm1, fixed it
[10:30] <WcktKlwn> what's the latest one the HVR-1600?
[13:22] <tafkaz> hi there. i could need some help with acpi shutdown using mythwelcome....
[13:22] <tafkaz> anyone experienced on this ?
[13:23] <tafkaz> acpi shutdown and wakeup is fine, unless i want mythwelcome to be used
[13:24] <tafkaz> but i would like to use mythwelcome so if the box has been waken up due to a scheduled recording, it shutsdown afterwards
[13:24] <tafkaz> gutsy that is...
[13:24] <tafkaz> i have for example now the problem, that the idle count was not performed after the recording was finished
[13:25] <tafkaz> mythwelcome tells me that myth is idle...and the mythbackend logs show no action at all...but the idle countdown is not performed
[13:25] <tafkaz> any idea
[13:25] <tafkaz> ?
[13:26] <tafkaz> if i restart mythbackend the countdown will be started immediately...
[13:27] <tafkaz> what could hold mythbackend to start that countdown ß
[13:27] <tafkaz> -& +?
[13:28] <tafkaz> hm....actually looking into the mythbackend log a bit deeper...there is the EITScanner being run every 2-3 minutes...
[13:29] <tafkaz> but that shouldnt prevent the shutdown, should it ?
[14:03] <tafkaz> sorry, had to go for a moment...
[14:03] <tafkaz> any idea on my mythwelcome prob ?
[15:25] <fuhgawz> hi
[18:51] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[18:51] <Blain> Anyone get, or is thier any documention on getting the Gyration MCE remote to work with Mythbuntu
[18:52] <Aquahallic> on a standalone frontend... are all the settings for the gui (sizes and prefs) held in the mysql db on the master backend?
[19:20] <Aquahallic> If I have a frontend running on a machine... and I setup something in correctly in the gui settings and it now chokes... do I  have to delete that frontend's settings out of mythconverg or are they local??
[20:04] <duncan> hi
[20:05] <Tuv0k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenter
[20:05] <Tuv0k> this is starting to get silly now
[20:06] <Tuv0k> mythbuntu is not enough, we need a UMCE?
[20:06] <Daviey> Tuv0k: have you come here to troll?
[20:06] <Tuv0k> have you?
[20:07] <Daviey> Are you being serious?
[20:07] <Tuv0k> are you?
[20:07] <[nrx]> lol
[20:07] <[nrx]> cunt-punt alert
[20:08] <[nrx]> heeyy :/
[20:10] <Tuv0k> I'd like to report you, for kicking for no reason
[20:10] <Tuv0k> I ask a question and get a troll flame
[20:10] <Tuv0k> if the page is outdated, remove the page
[20:10] <Daviey> go ahead
[20:10] <Tuv0k> what is your problem?
[20:11] <Tuv0k> you did kick the guy that used a vulgarity in a family channel, but me for asking a legitimate question. Any fool ccan have OPs control, huh?
[20:12] <Tuv0k> did not
[20:12] <duncan> I suddenly got a problem with my mythtv-record-status. I forgot everything I programmed - I am pretty clueless right now. Any suggestions where to start?
[20:12] <duncan> it not I
[20:12] <duncan> sry
[20:18] <superm1> !family | [nrx]
[20:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:18] <superm1> hm what was it
[20:18] <superm1> !ohmy | [nrx]
[20:18] <ubotu> [nrx]: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:18] <superm1> :)
[20:18] <superm1> Tuv0k, that project was started
[20:18] <superm1> but the developers got overwhelmed and its on hold for now
[20:19] <[nrx]> uh huh
[20:19] <superm1> [nrx], no but seriously, just watch the language or we will have to ban per the code of conduct okay?
[20:20] <Tuv0k> superm1, But sup, before I could check dayes or whatnot to see if I was mistaken, I was called a troll, and that does not bother me, so much as being kicked without so much as a warning or anything. But the use of vulgarity is ok.
[20:21] <superm1> Tuv0k, sorry for the mistake here, we've had several trolls in the past to deal with
[20:21] <superm1> so sometimes identifying one early is the better bet
[20:21] <Tuv0k> I was afraid to be kicked and or banned, and not be able to get your assistance again.
[20:21] <Tuv0k> I understand
[20:21] <superm1> just be careful of tone and what you say, and things should be fine
[20:21] <superm1> sorry :)
[20:21] <Tuv0k> ty
[20:22] <[nrx]> i appreciate that, and i was an ass, i know :)
[20:22] <Tuv0k> glad you were around
[20:22] <[nrx]> i was just acknowledging what you said :)
[20:22] <Tuv0k> I got banned from #fluxbuntu for typing "wt_"
[20:22] <Tuv0k> I did not even type the "f"
[20:22] <Tuv0k> seriously
[20:23] <Tuv0k> now, I would have to go through trickery to get back into the channel for real support, and its a shame.
[20:23] <Tuv0k> dropping the issue now
[20:23] <superm1> any time you are banned from a channel, you can to #ubuntu-ops about it
[20:23] <Tuv0k> btw, my mythv is working perfect
[20:23] <superm1> and they will assess the situation from the logs
[20:23] <Tuv0k> ty
[20:24] <Tuv0k> but this update will not allow the mythweather and some other plugins
[20:24] <joejaxx> Tuv0k: ?
[20:24] <Daviey> Tuv0k: i'd raise the issue in #ubuntu-ops and ask to get the ban taken off, if it's been suitable time.. I would not try and circumvent the ban, that can lead to a kline for the whole of freenode
[20:24] <Tuv0k> but the new features look and feel are nice
[20:24] <Tuv0k> more options
[20:24] <superm1> Tuv0k, they are still stuck in NEW
[20:24] <superm1> they will show up in the next few days
[20:24] <superm1> once they do, the new mythweb is very nice :)
[20:25] <joejaxx> Tuv0k: do you have logs?
[20:25] <Tuv0k> and either I have enough freespace to running xfs defrag, or now it just works
[20:25] <Tuv0k> sweet
[20:25] <Tuv0k> I had to learn how to fix my database last night
[20:25] <Tuv0k> that was fun
[20:26] <joejaxx> it is not nice to exaggerate
[20:26] <joejaxx> :)
[20:29] <KjetilK> Tuv0k: I didn't find anything relevant in the FAQ, when you told me to RTFFAQ the other day...
[20:29] <KjetilK> also, tv_grab_no is broken, so I can generate any EPG stuff
[20:30] <Tuv0k> well it was more like try reading the faq, but hyperbole is good...
[20:30] <KjetilK> if I understood how the channel numbers that the tuning turned up mapped to the channels, I could perhaps fix it...
[20:31] <KjetilK> Tuv0k: hehe, yeah
[20:32] <KjetilK> I managed to get a tv_grab_no.conf file, but the channel numbers there doesn't match the channel numbers where I find stuff...
[20:43] <Aquahallic> superm1 you have a minute??
[20:44] <Aquahallic> are the settings for GUI and Playback on a remote frontend only install held in the mysql db on the master backend?
[20:46] <lime4x4> how can i stop mythbuntu from asking for the password for the wireless network everytime it boots up?
[20:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> lime4x4: I like to harcode that stuff in /etc/network/interfaces but there are other (sometimes better) ways that it can be done, depending on your needs
[20:50] <lime4x4> i'm using a secured wireless card that requires a wep passphrase
[20:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> will the box ever need to connect to any other wireless?
[20:51] <lime4x4> when i reboot the box it asks for my passphrase then the keyring manager comes up then i have to enter the password for that as well
[20:51] <lime4x4> nope just to my wireless router
[20:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[20:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> the section "Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces" is what I do
[20:54] <lime4x4> ok thanks
[20:56] <toorima> superm1: the new updates, mythweb among other things, when u say they will show up in the next few days, do u mean in 8.4 beta or in 7.10 stable?
[20:59] <[nrx]> anyone suggest a reason why my back button during tv playback actually exists mythtv completely?
[20:59] <Aquahallic> are frontend GUI settings held local or on the master backend in mysql db???
[21:00] <toorima> [nrx]: bd error that makes mythtv crash?
[21:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> that or you have something funky in your lircrc would be something to check
[21:06] <lime4x4> confused already..lol the wireless-key would that be the same as the passphrase?
[21:06] <[nrx]> bd error?
[21:06] <toorima> ops db
[21:06] <toorima> sorry
[21:06] <[nrx]> hm... what kind of error would it be? is there something I should check, or?
[21:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> /var/log/mythtv/
[21:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> check the frontend logs
[21:07] <toorima> well i've had problems with the recordedseek field
[21:07] <toorima> in the past
[21:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> lime4x4: I used my hex key in wireless-key, if you have a passphrase you can try it there
[21:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> lime4x4: let me verify we are talking wep and not wpa
[21:08] <toorima> it has been marked as crashed and have made my jumping/skiping very funky
[21:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> toorima: have you repaired/optimized your tables?
[21:09] <superm1> toorima, 8.04 stuff
[21:09] <toorima> yeah i've repaired it twice from that
[21:09] <superm1> 7.10 stable won't be seeing 0.21 until its out
[21:09] <superm1> Aquahallic, yes
[21:09] <toorima> superm1: oh ok, u got my hopes up there but i'll just wait till april
[21:09] <superm1> toorima, you can use the weekly gutsy builds though too
[21:09] <superm1> for trunk if you really want
[21:10] <superm1> that's why they're there :)
[21:10] <toorima> i'll think about it but i also like to keep it stable, but guessing trunk is pretty stable?
[21:10] <superm1> that's a relative question
[21:10] <Aquahallic> so.. if I made some changes on my frontend I have here on my laptop.. and it jacked my frontend so bad it won't even load to let me set them back.. I have to use something like phpmyadmin and edit them back directly in the db?
[21:11] <toorima> i think i'll wait for hardy
[21:11] <toorima> but might upgrade early tho
[21:11] <superm1> Aquahallic, yeah you can do that
[21:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> Aquahallic: mytweb can change a lot of the settings too, needs to be running on that box though
[21:11] <superm1> toorima, well there are still a few things broke in hardy, like the missing plugins, and vnc is a mess
[21:11] <superm1> so at least hold out until those are cleared up
[21:11] <Aquahallic> ahh. yes.. do have mythweb running on there
[21:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> can just use nx :)
[21:12] <superm1> rhpot1991_laptop, but it's not in apt :)
[21:12] <toorima> superm1: k thx man, keep up the good work
[21:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> I still recommend it, a lot smother than vnc over the interwebs
[21:13] <Aquahallic> oh...  the frontend is on my laptop... I have mythweb running on my master backend... so I can't set my GUI settings for this frontend from mythweb then can I??? meaning... mythweb will only let you change settings for the frontend that resides on the same box.. right?
[21:14] <superm1> Aquahallic, i would just use phpmyadmin
[21:14] <superm1> and find all the settings for that machine
[21:14] <superm1> and drop them
[21:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> Aquahallic: yep, also I'm not entirely sure what settings mythweb has, just that it has some that I use (user jobs for one)
[21:16] <rhpot1991_laptop> phpmyadmin is definitely more versatile
[21:18] <Aquahallic> yeah... I installed phpmyadmin.. I never set a root password for mysql
[21:19] <Aquahallic> but I try to logon and set one without -p and it denys me... so evidently it's been set somehow
[21:19] <Aquahallic> and it's not my root user pw...:/
[21:20] <toorima> Aquahallic: try /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[21:20] <[nrx]> i've checked the log... and there's nothing there that suggests a problem
[21:21] <toorima> [nrx]: and no db is marked as crashed? it won't show up in the logs i think
[21:22] <[nrx]> toorima, can i paste 3 lines?
[21:22] <toorima> also there could be something fishy with your lirc
[21:22] <[nrx]> log entry
[21:22] <toorima> sure
[21:22] <[nrx]> 2008-02-04 21:19:56.500 TV: Attempting to change from WatchingLiveTV to None
[21:22] <[nrx]> 2008-02-04 21:19:57.123 TV: Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
[21:22] <[nrx]> 2008-02-04 21:19:57.143 DPMS Reactivated.
[21:22] <[nrx]> that's the entries form when i hit the back/stop key
[21:22] <[nrx]> that's when mythtv just exists completely
[21:23] <toorima> think that is what my logs says when i stop watching live tv and exits to mythmeny, but it shouldnt crash then
[21:23] <Aquahallic> that's only my mythtv user that's not my root acct though.... hmm... I guess that user does have access to mythconverg doesn't it... can I login to phpmyadmin with the mythtv user???
[21:24] <toorima> hmm not the 3rd line tho
[21:24] <[nrx]> when i start watching livetv, that line changes to DPMS Deactivated
[21:24] <toorima> hold on, ill try mine now
[21:24] <rhpot1991_laptop> Aquahallic: you should be able to
[21:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> will only have access to mythconverg though
[21:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> try empty password for root
[21:25] <Aquahallic> yup... I'm IN....;)
[21:25] <Aquahallic> ty...
[21:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> go ahead and set a password on root then
[21:26]  * Aquahallic thinks out of the box while spinning compiz cube back over to phpmyadmin....;)
[21:26] <toorima> [nrx]: i only get the second line
[21:27] <[nrx]> hm :/
[21:28] <[nrx]> any other suggestions/ideas?
[21:28] <[nrx]> this only happens coming out of livetv... it's fine with everyhing else
[21:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> look for back button entries in your lircrc
[21:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> not sure anything can cause a problem there, but its worth checking
[21:29] <toorima> [nrx]: it works well when u exit recorded shows?
[21:29] <Aquahallic> Holy BeJeezus....
[21:29] <[nrx]> rhpot1991_: this is a bit weird... there are backbutton entries.. and there is one for livetv, but it doesn't work. The 'STOP' button seems to be configured to exit
[21:29] <[nrx]> the Back/Exit button is mapped to 'D' for some menus
[21:29] <Aquahallic> any idea where the different frontend's settings would be located??
[21:30] <[nrx]> i'm not really bothered about what button it is.. as long as I have a button that works and will take me out of live tv back to mythmenu
[21:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> my exit is mapped to D
[21:30] <[nrx]> for live TV?
[21:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> for everything it looks like
[21:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> hmmm, no xine stuff in here, I might be hitting the wrong file
[21:31] <[nrx]> :(
[21:32] <rhpot1991_laptop> my symlinks got busted at some point it looks like
[21:32] <rhpot1991_laptop> in this one exit -> esc
[21:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats for all of mythtv
[21:34] <[nrx]> i just can't figure this out
[21:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> D delete in both "Watch a Recording" and "Delete a Recording"
[21:34] <rhpot1991_laptop> says the mythtv wiki
[21:34] <[nrx]> yeah
[21:35] <[nrx]> thing is.. with irw, if i hit the back/exit button on the remote.. it shows in irw as BackExit
[21:35] <rhpot1991_laptop> so you have one pointing at d, and others too?
[21:35] <[nrx]> and that's mapped in lircrc
[21:35] <[nrx]> but.. it does nothing
[21:35] <lime4x4> rhpot1991 i'm using wep
[21:36] <lime4x4> my router generates a passphrase and key
[21:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> lime4x4: should be good to do that then, might want to search around about using a passphrase if its not working right though
[21:36] <lime4x4> ok
[21:37] <[nrx]> begin
[21:37] <[nrx]> prog = mythtv
[21:37] <[nrx]> button = BackExit
[21:37] <[nrx]> config = Esc
[21:37] <[nrx]> end
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> thtas your only backexit?
[21:37] <[nrx]> that's correct for lircrc, right?
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[21:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> I wonder if you are hitting the wrong lircrc then
[21:38] <[nrx]> yes it is
[21:38] <[nrx]> i have /home/mythtv/.lircrc and /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc
[21:38] <[nrx]> not symlinked.. the same file copied
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> you are sure that the mythtv user is running it?
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> and not some other user
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> as far as the frontend goes
[21:39] <[nrx]> as in, user mythtv is running the frontend?
[21:39] <toorima> shouldnt it be Back/Exit instead of BackExit?
[21:40] <[nrx]> my button is mapped to BackExit
[21:40] <[nrx]> backend is running as user mythtv and frontend is running as me
[21:40] <toorima> k maybe diff depending on what remote
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> toorima: that depends on how lirc is setup
[21:40] <[nrx]> toorima, i don't think it matters because you set that up yourself
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> thts prob why, check for a lircrc in your home dir
[21:40] <egghead2> does anyone know if you can control two set top boxes with one ir blaster? or do u need two?
[21:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> it will pick that up if you are running the frontend
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> just symlink them all to the same file, will save you headaches in the end
[21:41] <[nrx]> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> egghead2: well if you wanted them all to do the same thing, I guess you could
[21:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> would be hard to tell which one to do what though
[21:41] <egghead2> rhpot, lol, naw i wanted then seperate
[21:42] <[nrx]> i think i've just fucked up my lircrc
[21:42] <[nrx]> :(
[21:42] <[nrx]> sorry, language
[21:42] <[nrx]> i'm just massively frustrated
[21:42] <[nrx]> :(
[21:42] <Aquahallic> Thanx... I got my frontend back...:P
[21:42] <egghead2> i thought maybe setting up a seperate remote for each box might do the trick
[21:43] <egghead2> hi aqua
[21:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> what did you do overwrite it?
[21:43] <Aquahallic> now my question... I have the frontend running in a window.. and TV playback in GUI size....
[21:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can regenerate it with MCC
[21:43] <Aquahallic> Heya EGG
[21:43] <[nrx]> i cpied the one from /mythtv
[21:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> egghead2: sorry I don't know much about irblasting, might want to find someone who is actually using it and ask them if you can do 2 signals
[21:44] <Aquahallic> if I'm watching tv in a window'd view.. is there a kboard shortcut to bring it to full screen??
[21:44] <egghead2> rhpot, k thanks :)
[21:44] <[nrx]> i can't believe i've messed up my remote again.. it took me 2 days to get it working 99% :(
[21:45] <Aquahallic> rhpot1991_laptop:  I found the db setting for the GUI sizes and just hand edited it...:)
[21:45] <lime4x4> okay anybody now where i can what screen resolution i should be using for a 51 inch widescreen using dvi set to 1080i
[21:45] <Aquahallic> egghead2:  you trying to get that irblaster working with your dishnet??
[21:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> [nrx]: backups are important when playing around
[21:45] <[nrx]> yeah :(
[21:45] <[nrx]> i may cry lol
[21:46] <egghead2> aqua, yup
[21:47] <Aquahallic> trying to do 2 different with the one remote?
[21:47] <egghead2> want to control 2 boxes from one ir blaster, do able?
[21:47] <Aquahallic> should be I'd think
[21:47] <egghead2> yea read the faq a couple time but, seem it could go either way
[21:47] <[nrx]> okay, i've ot it back to what it was
[21:47] <Aquahallic> you have each box on it's own source?
[21:47] <egghead2> i gotta go, quiting time :)
[21:47] <Aquahallic> LMAO
[21:48] <egghead2> lmao
[21:48] <egghead2> ill call you later :)
[21:48] <egghead2> lmao
[21:48] <Aquahallic> k... call me later if you want...HAHA
[21:48] <egghead2> ok cya
[21:48] <Aquahallic> 1-900.XXX
[21:48] <Aquahallic> LOL
[21:48] <egghead2> lol
[21:48] <Aquahallic> only .99c a min
[21:48] <Aquahallic> cyas
[21:48] <egghead2> rof
[21:48] <[nrx]> right. which one does mythtv use.. is it the one in /.mythtv/lircrc or the on in /.lircrc?
[21:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> [nrx]: after you get them all in place you will want to sudo /etc/init.d/lirc reload and sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[21:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'll be honest I don't remember, I just get one out there and symlink it all over
[21:51] <Blain> Anyone get, or is thier any documention on getting the Gyration MCE remote to work with Mythbuntu
[21:53] <[nrx]> rhpot1991_ i've got Back/Exit working
[21:53] <[nrx]> but, it still quits mythtv from live playback instead of returning to mythmenu
[21:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'd watch live tv then hit esc on a keyboard to verify its doing it there
[21:54] <[nrx]> it does it with the keyboard, too
[21:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> and did you reload/restart lirc?
[21:54] <[nrx]> yes
[21:54] <[nrx]> the remote's all good
[21:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> prob not an lirc porblem then
[21:55] <[nrx]> just the 'Esc' config seems to make mythtv quit completely instead of stopping live tv and returning to the menu
[21:56] <[nrx]> it was mapped to 'D' but in live tv playback, it did nothing
[21:56] <[nrx]> so i can only presume that either a) 'Esc' isn't the right config .. or, b) I have a serious problem/error somewhere
[21:56] <[nrx]> check me out, sherlock.
[21:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> see mine uses esc with no problem
[21:57] <[nrx]> that would suggest a problem with mine somewhere then huh
[21:57] <Aquahallic> [nrx]: when you hit Esc from a keyboard does it work??
[21:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> you are running the regular builds and not trunk or anything?
[21:57] <[nrx]> Aquahallic, it also quits completely if i hit Esc on the keyboard
[21:58] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[21:58] <[nrx]> rhpot1991_ running mythbuntu, yeah
[21:58] <[nrx]> Esc works on every other menu.. no problems, just during live tv it doesn't.
[21:58] <[nrx]> lemme explain this a little more..
[21:58] <[nrx]> I use the theme with the round menu options.. like circles with the images in them?
[21:58] <[nrx]> the blue one.. with the blue rippled background
[21:58] <Aquahallic> I had that problem too... I'm trying to remember what it was
[21:58] <[nrx]> so i get in.. hit TV.. then Watch Live TV
[21:59] <[nrx]> when i've been watchin and I hit Esc, it goes back to the blue rippled background for about 2-3 seconds, then bombs out entirely
[22:01] <[nrx]> i have another wee issue if anyone wants to make a suggestion? :)
[22:01] <Aquahallic> [nrx]: are you logging mythfrontend??
[22:01] <[nrx]> Aqua, yeah, but there's no errors in there when MythTV bombs out
[22:02] <[nrx]> here's another issue..
[22:02] <[nrx]> http://pastebin.com/m37eabcfd
[22:02] <[nrx]> i get that with some channels
[22:02] <Aquahallic> [nrx]: can you pastebin your frontend log so I can have a peek?
[22:03] <[nrx]> i'm remote to it.. so it's kinda difficult tbh
[22:04] <Aquahallic> well.. unless I can see what your frontend is saying I can't really comment on it...:(
[22:05] <[nrx]> i pasted it to someone a wee bit earlier if you can scroll back...
[22:05] <[nrx]> but there's no errors at all when mythtv bombs out
[22:09] <[nrx]> :/
[22:12] <Aquahallic> I saw it...
[22:13] <Aquahallic> I can't tell anything from it...:/
[22:13] <Aquahallic> might look in keymappings though???
[22:13] <Aquahallic> you can set what keys do what
[22:13] <[nrx]> http://pastebin.com/m37eabcfd - any ideas on that?
[22:14] <[nrx]> that's when i change to a channel that isn't working correctly
[22:19] <Aquahallic> same capture card as the other channels that work properly?
[22:19] <[nrx]> yes
[22:19] <Aquahallic> could be a bad signal
[22:20] <[nrx]> nah
[22:20] <[nrx]> if i use a normal proper freeview box, it's fine
[22:20] <[nrx]> if i use the same capture card in a windows box, it's fine
[22:21] <Aquahallic> that's not mythtv though... different players
[22:21] <[nrx]> yeah
[22:21] <[nrx]> so the signal is still the same
[22:22] <Aquahallic> see if you can find a channel that doesn't work properly... then schedule up a recording.. let it record a few min of it..then try to play that back with something other than the mythtv native frontend
[22:22] <[nrx]> i can select the channel.. and watch it
[22:22] <[nrx]> but it's all just garble on the screen
[22:23] <[nrx]> including the OSD
[22:23] <Aquahallic> try to record it and see how it plays on another player
[22:23] <[nrx]> seem to be seeing quite a lot of errors now too, actually
[22:23] <[nrx]> for instance: 2008-02-04 22:23:08.055 Preview Error: Previewer file '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1001_20080204222305.mpg' is not valid.
[22:24] <Aquahallic> right.. that's prolly one of the channels you said that gives you the other error
[22:25] <[nrx]> that's from mythbackend.log
[22:25] <Aquahallic> right
[22:25] <Aquahallic> when you view livetv.. it's actually dropping a .mpg file down
[22:25] <[nrx]> Run 'mythcommflag --file 1001_20080204222307.mpg --rebuild' to fix
[22:25] <[nrx]> got a few of them, too
[22:25] <Aquahallic> so.. if the tuner isn't tuning it properly.. then you're going to have mangled video
[22:26] <[nrx]> okay, so that explains that then
[22:26] <Aquahallic> I'd check your tuner setup
[22:26] <[nrx]> i've gone thru the backend setup numerous times and I can't see anything wrong with it
[22:27] <[nrx]> does mythtv rely on tzap?
[22:27] <Aquahallic> is it odd.. or even or maybe just the higher channels??
[22:27] <Aquahallic> any sort of rime or reason
[22:27] <Aquahallic> rhyme*
[22:27] <[nrx]> yes.. it's channel4 (all channel 4 channels) and ITV2 and ITV3
[22:28] <Aquahallic> can you tune that channel 4 correctly with just a tv hooked to THAT SAME wire?
[22:28] <Aquahallic> not in the rest of the house.... but on THAT wire going into your capture card
[22:29] <[nrx]> yes
[22:29] <Aquahallic> cause..it's funny it's channel 4... since most devices output on chan. 3 or 4 depending on what the switch is set to
[22:30] <Aquahallic> might have something hooked in that's feeding back and screwing channel 4
[22:32] <[nrx]> im gonna try it with tzap
[22:32] <directhex> it's digital. you only have 6 frequencies to tunr into
[22:33] <directhex> itv1 and channel 4 share the same frequency
[22:35] <Aquahallic> ahh.. so it is some feedback on the chan. 4 freq then you think directhex??
[22:36] <directhex> if itv1 works, that frequency is fine
[22:36] <directhex> and itv2
[22:37] <Aquahallic> directhex: is there a way if I'm watching mythtv in a window and I want to switch it to full screen to do that from a keyboard?? or do I have to go and re-setup the frontend window settings each time I want to switch??
[22:38] <directhex> mythtv isn't really geared towards changing resolutions, so i'm afraid there's no quick switch
[22:38] <Aquahallic> awwee... k
[22:40] <directhex> the multiplex used by channel 4 is shared by itv1, itv2, itv3, iv4, citv, more4, e4, channel4+1, and the teletext channels
[22:40] <[nrx]> so.. how do you get it to work?
[22:41] <directhex> you mention mangled video. mangled how?
[22:41] <[nrx]> it's difficult to explain
[22:42] <[nrx]> think of horizontal stripes.. multicoloured
[22:42] <[nrx]> perfect audio in the background (correct for the channel) but just no picture
[22:44] <directhex> what's your graphics card?
[22:44] <Aquahallic> directhex: let me ask you this.... I have a frontend on my laptop... those settings are saved in the mysql db on my backend... I found them with the hostname of my laptop... is there a way I can force mythfrontend to pass a different name... or... someway setup a different profile in the db and I can just pass an arguement through a launcher to use a different set of settings on the db??
[22:44] <[nrx]> ati radeon
[22:45] <directhex> Aquahallic, not that i know of. interesting idea though
[22:46] <directhex> [nrx], interesting. what screen resolution?
[22:46] <[nrx]> er. 1024.768
[22:46] <[nrx]> im on the TV out
[22:46] <[nrx]> all other channels work fine though
[22:47] <[nrx]> http://pastebin.com/m37eabcfd
[22:47] <[nrx]> does that help at all?
[22:48] <directhex> [nrx], no, that looks normal to me
[22:48] <[nrx]> ok
[22:49] <directhex> [nrx], however, ati drivers are a known cause of strife - and the input resolution varies per-channel
[22:49] <[nrx]> hm
[22:49] <directhex> let me check my sources, see if i can spot another channel which runs the same res as 4
[22:49] <[nrx]> :/
[22:49] <[nrx]> ok :)
[22:49] <[nrx]> thankyou!
[22:50] <[nrx]> hmm
[22:51] <directhex> itv1 works?
[22:51] <[nrx]> normal ITV works, yes
[22:52] <[nrx]> earlier, E4+1 was working..
[22:52] <[nrx]> which was weird
[22:52] <[nrx]> :/
[22:52] <directhex> odd. can you make a quick recording from channel 4, then try the recording file (.mpg) on another pc?
[22:52] <directhex> preferably one not running the radeon/linux combo
[22:53] <[nrx]> erm
[22:53] <[nrx]> 2 ticks
[22:58] <[nrx]> where will it store the recording? scuse my ignorance but \i haven't recorded anything yet.. been too busy trying to get it all working
[22:58] <[nrx]> i.e. were can i pull it from to view it elsewhere :)
[23:00] <[nrx]> btw, the OSD doesn't even show up.. dunno if that helps at all?
[23:02] <[nrx]> nm, found it
[23:02] <directhex> no osd definitely smells like a driver issue
[23:02] <directhex> and i think /var/lib/mythtv/recordings is default
[23:03] <[nrx]> yeah, got it :)
[23:03] <[nrx]> my mac wont play the file
[23:03] <[nrx]> stupid fricken macs.
[23:04] <directhex> does your mac have a codec for mpeg2-ts?
[23:04] <[nrx]> pft. i know nothing about macs
[23:04] <[nrx]> i'll go try on the pc
[23:04] <[nrx]> back in 5
[23:04] <directhex> you'll need a codec on windows too
[23:04] <[nrx]> ARGH
[23:04] <directhex> google for "haali" and "ffdshow-tryouts" in that order
[23:05] <directhex> it's technically capable of working - http://img.hexus.net/v2/articles/MythTV/wmp-files-01.jpg
[23:13] <[nrx]> okay..
[23:13] <[nrx]> i've got it playing on my pc
[23:13] <[nrx]> but it's upside down and back to front
[23:17] <[nrx]> so anyway, the video is there
[23:17] <Nach0> hi everyone in 'cyberspace land' :)
[23:19] <[nrx]> directhex :)
[23:20] <Nach0> i have a quick question if anyone can help, I just installed 7.10 on an avit AV8 motherboard onto a sata HD, the install went fine but when the system rebooted is shows no OS found.
[23:20] <Nach0> im now re-installing, anyone know why this would of happened?
[23:20] <Nach0> :)
[23:22] <[nrx]> grrr... it wont let me watch LiveTV now :( !!
[23:27] <[nrx]> it says that all available slot are taken and to stop current in progress recordings..
[23:27] <[nrx]> there are none!
[23:28] <alexvd_> nrx: restart the backend
[23:29] <alexvd_> /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[23:29] <[nrx]> this is fucked up
[23:29] <[nrx]> channel 4 is working now?
[23:30] <Aquahallic> on a different pc [nrx]??
[23:30] <[nrx]> and now my remote is knackered. again.
[23:30] <[nrx]> no.. the same one lol
[23:30] <alexvd_> nrx: can you use the keyboard
[23:31] <[nrx]> i deleted all recordings and it's let me back in to watch live tv
[23:31] <[nrx]> but as i say.. channel 4 is working now
[23:31] <[nrx]> but itv2 etc isn't
[23:32] <directhex> they look screwed up, or failing to tune?
[23:32] <alexvd_> what are you recording from
[23:32] <[nrx]> directhex.. what's the difference :(
[23:32] <alexvd_> well failing tune could be a number of things
[23:32] <[nrx]> it's as though there's no codec for it.. so all you get is garble on the screen in lots of different colours
[23:32] <directhex> [nrx], if the video looks screwy, it really seems radeon related to me. failing to tune is something very different
[23:33] <[nrx]> channel4 works..
[23:33] <[nrx]> bbc1, bbc2, stv/itv doesn't now
[23:33] <[nrx]> i give up
[23:33] <[nrx]> where's the sense in this?!
[23:34] <directhex> i'm convinced it's a radeon issue, and ati are well known for having abortive drivers in linux
[23:35] <[nrx]> how come then.. on the screwey channels, the volume bar still works okay? as in, the ubuntu one
[23:35] <[nrx]> i'm giving up for tonight
[23:35] <[nrx]> got an early start
[23:35] <[nrx]> thanks for all your help directhex :)
[23:35] <directhex> the channels are displayed using Xv, a video extension for hardware acceleated 2d video rendering
[23:35] <[nrx]> it really is/was much appreciated
[23:36] <directhex> i think there's an environment variable like NO_XV you can set to something non-zero to check for different behaviour
[23:36] <[nrx]> would it have anything to do with envy?
[23:38] <directhex> only in the sense that different ati drivers have different sets of bugs
[23:38] <[nrx]> im gonna hit the sack
[23:38] <[nrx]> again, thanks for your help.
[23:38] <[nrx]> if you're around tomorrow, i'll maybe pick your brains again if that's okay :)
[23:41] <alexvd_> directhex: I am setting up a new hard drive for videos. It is sdc1.  I mounted in fstab and set a symbolic link to map it to /var/lib/mythtv/recordings.  How do I setup the permission so that i can copy files across the lan to it and the mythtv user can read from it?
[23:42] <alexvd_> sorry error in above. I created a new file in /var/lib/mythtv/ called videos
[23:42] <alexvd_> and the drive will have a symbolic link to sdc1
[23:43] <directhex> alexvd_, make sure one of the following scenarios is true: 1) the mythtv user owns the place it's mounted, and has write permission 2) one of the groups the mythtv users is in has group ownership, and has write permission 3) global write permission
[23:44] <directhex> copying files across the lan, pick your poison - nfs, cifs, sshfs, whatever
[23:44] <alexvd_> directhex: so i setup the permissions on the videos file exactly as the recordings.  Its owner is Mythtv and group is alexvd
[23:45] <alexvd_> directhex: the owner mythtv has read write and alexvd group has read
[23:45] <directhex> alexvd_, that works
[23:47] <alexvd_> directhex: so do I do a sudo chown mythtv:alexvd /dev/sdc1 to the drive.
[23:47] <directhex> no, on the mountpoint
[23:47] <alexvd_> directhex: then a chmod 755 /dev/sdc1
[23:48] <directhex> altered device node permissions are harmful
[23:48] <alexvd_> so the mountpoint of the harddrive
[23:48] <alexvd_> the mountpoint I thought was /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[23:49] <alexvd_> are you saying i dont have to do anything to the drive
[23:49] <directhex> never mess with device nodes. you're talking a mount point issue
[23:50] <directhex> users write to files, not devices. files are a function of mounted disks, not device nodes
[23:50] <alexvd_> so in fstab i have this /dev/sdc1 /var/lib/mythtv/videos                         xfs    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       1
[23:50] <alexvd_> that should be correct
[23:50] <directhex> smells correct to me