[00:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i will be so happy when hardy gets here and we stop supporting edgy.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> then it will be 3 months of 'i upgraded and now envy broke!'  :)
[00:04] <NickPresta> :)
[00:06] <BluesKaj> I wonder why source-o-matic is no longer updating to the newer distros
[00:06] <Daisuke_Ido> and 3 months of "whoops!  shouldn't have used envy, huh?"
[00:07] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic
[00:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[00:07] <electroweak> hi guys I am having problem with my wifi
[00:07] <NickPresta> electroweak, what sort of problem?
[00:07] <electroweak> I can`t get it work
[00:07] <electroweak> I am using HP with broadcom
[00:07] <NickPresta> !doesn't work | electroweak
[00:07] <ubotu> electroweak: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[00:08] <electroweak> sorry
[00:08] <Dr_willis> a lot depends on the exact chipset also
[00:08] <electroweak> I have tried the bcm43xx-fwcutter but I still can`t get connected
[00:09] <electroweak> but I can get results when I typed iwlist scan
[00:09] <jeisma> 16:47:55 (1.63 KB/s) - `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz' saved [3036127/3036127]
[00:09] <jeisma> Download done.
[00:09] <jeisma> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[00:09] <jeisma> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[00:09] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[00:09] <electroweak> and wifi button is illuminated now
[00:09] <NickPresta> !flashissues | jeisma
[00:09] <ubotu> jeisma: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[00:09] <biovore> install manualy..
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !flash
[00:10] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[00:10] <Dr_willis> they changed the factoid a bit it seems.
[00:11] <stdin> it flooded a bit much for our liking
[00:12] <hola> how is possiple to share a ppoe connection
[00:14] <lycoris> exit
[00:15] <electroweak> bcm43xx-fwcutter is installed but I can`t get wifi working what should  I do now
[00:16] <fumanchu> quien me busca
[00:17] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[00:17] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:17] <BluesKaj> !es
[00:17] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:23] <ubuntu> hi
[00:23] <NickPresta> hi
[00:27] <Dan_D_Lyons> whoo, join/part/quit spam
[00:28] <Dan_D_Lyons> /-ahmos-\ thank you for contributing to the join/part/quit spam :-P
[00:29] <Dan_D_Lyons> lol, i say "join/part/quit spam" and someone joins
[00:29] <Dan_D_Lyons> i have discovered a super power.
[00:29]  * Dan_D_Lyons shuts up now
[00:30] <ahmos> :)
[00:38] <mrdlouisd> I run off a 4 gig pen drive, I'd like to free up space, is there a guide I can follow as to apps/languages removal?
[00:39] <mrdlouisd> anyone?
[00:39] <ere4si> there's the ubuntu minimal cd
[00:40] <bomber> dont forget google
[00:41] <ahmos> can anybody look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54791/ java problem
[00:42] <akuma> how do i get Compiz and stuff installed on Kubuntu?
[00:43] <akuma> or beryl
[00:43] <aaron> My computer recently stopped detecting my pcmcia card, does anyone have any ideas?
[00:44] <aaron> My kernel has not been upgraded or changed
[00:44] <akuma> dose Kubuntu come with Compiz/Fusion-Icon/Beryl at all?
[00:45] <ere4si> !compiz
[00:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:47] <ahmos>  can anybody look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54791/ java problem
[00:47] <ahmos> some help..where r u people
[00:51] <NickPresta> ahmos, run `sudo apt-get -f install` as directed
[00:54] <soulrider>  if anyone is kinda free, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4270243#post4270243
[00:56] <jeisma> what all do i need to program with perl?
[00:56] <jeisma> like what editor
[00:56] <jeisma> what packages, etc
[00:57] <jsubl2> kate is a great editor
[00:57] <jeisma> for any language?
[00:57] <jsubl2> i use it for ruby
[00:57] <jsubl2> it handles quite a few languages
[00:57] <NickPresta> soulrider, have you ever used the getopt module for Python?
[00:58] <Maxim000> I want to install firefox, but it wants so many gnome parts...
[00:58] <jeisma> but what packages do i need to program and compile and run perl scripts?
[00:58] <soulrider> NickPresta: nope
[00:59] <ahmos> !java
[00:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[00:59] <NickPresta> soulrider, you might want to check out getopt or optparse (OO "version"). It replaces you whole parameters while block. We can discuss this in #kubuntu-offtopic if you want.
[00:59] <jeisma> !perl
[00:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:59] <jeisma> damn..
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> jeisma- the perl package is probably installed by default
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> !info perl
[00:59] <ubotu> perl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1 (gutsy), package size 3307 kB, installed size 11444 kB
[01:00] <jeisma> does that mean it's alreayd install on 7.10?
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> jeisma- check Adept
[01:00] <jeisma> Dragnslcr ?and do what in adept to check
[01:00] <jeisma> ?
[01:01] <Maxim000> do I really need all that gnome parts or I can install firefox without them?
[01:01] <jsubl2> Maxim000: you using apt or aptitude
[01:01] <jsubl2> or adept
[01:01] <Maxim000> adept
[01:02] <jsubl2> I would definetly let it install what it thinks it needs
[01:02] <Maxim000> :(
[01:02] <jsubl2> got broadband?
[01:03] <Maxim000> Just don't need gnome if I use KDE
[01:03] <jsubl2> right well the dependencies arent that bad are they  half or a dozen libs
[01:04] <ahmos> Nickprest:thank u for helping me ...it worked now ;)
[01:04] <Maxim000> it wants 140 MB include java. But I allready have java 6...
[01:04] <jsubl2> ouch
[01:09] <dumnut> hi, i installed gutsy but when i went to "su" the pw i setup does not work, what can i do about this?
[01:09] <jsubl2> !sudo
[01:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:09] <jsubl2> !sudo @ dumnut
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudo @ dumnut - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <stdin> dumnut: "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[01:09] <dumnut> oh, i thought su is root
[01:10] <dumnut> ok, i'll look into sudo, thank-you's
[01:11] <tobias_> hej
[01:11] <Maxim000> hm... now running adept I choose ff and adblocker and it don't wants any gnome parts. o_o
[01:11] <tobias_> jag har inget ljud på min data
[01:11] <dumnut> i'm looking for a good im program with ubuntu, any suggestions?
[01:12] <jsubl2> dumnut: i like kopete.. it supports my webcam
[01:12] <tobias_> i have no sound on my Kubuntu.. what do i need to do? i have a Dell D531
[01:12] <stdin> !se | tobias_
[01:12] <ubotu> tobias_: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[01:12] <dumnut> ok i'll try kopete thank-you jsubl2
[01:12] <jsubl2> good luck
[01:15] <jsubl2> can i install with my ipw3945 or do i need to start out with wired
[01:17] <jeisma> whats the equiv of gedit in kubuntu?
[01:17] <stdin> kate
[01:17] <biovore> jsubl2: technicaly I think its in there.. But I have never tried it.. I would go with wired first..
[01:17] <biovore> kate rules :-P
[01:17] <jsubl2> thanks biovore
[01:18] <jeisma>  sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:18] <jeisma> in kubuntu would be..
[01:18] <jeisma> sudo kate?
[01:18] <stdin> 1) don't use sudo with a GUI, it's bad
[01:18] <biovore> kdesu
[01:18] <jeisma> kdesu ok thanks
[01:18] <stdin> 2) kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:18] <biovore> yup
[01:18] <Maxim000> biovore, why it's bad?
[01:18] <stdin> who/whatever told you to use sudo needs hitting with a big clue bat
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> Isn't it kdesudo now?
[01:19] <stdin> kdesu = kdesudo when it's installed
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[01:19] <biovore> I think use use kdesu because of X permissions..
[01:20] <eddy> hi.. i download the ndiswrapper pakage from synaptic... but i dont know where the drivers go.. someone can help me (im use ubuntu)
[01:20] <jeisma>  could anyone help me to get my wireless on my gateway ml3109 to work on kubuntu?
[01:20] <jeisma> the forums aren't helping cuase htey're for ubuntu
[01:21] <stdin> sudo can mess up your permissions in general, I've had to deal with many many many bugs where someone's used sudo with a GUI and messed up things
[01:22] <AMcBain> !java
[01:22] <Maxim000> need to remember this.
[01:22] <AMcBain> ~java
[01:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:22] <biovore> jeisma: ubuntu and kubuntu are basicly the same thing..  The only differance is the gui program runnin on top..
[01:22] <ahmos> can I ask what is GUI ?!! :D
[01:23] <Maxim000> Grafic User Interface
[01:23] <stdin> ahmos: Graphical User Interface, ie anything pretty :)
[01:23] <eddy> hi.. i download the ndiswrapper pakage from synaptic... but i dont know where the drivers go.. someone can help me
[01:23] <ahmos> aha,,thank's alot
[01:23] <biovore> as apposed to CLI -- Command Line Interface
[01:23] <jeisma> biovore well i followed instructions someone did for ubuntu to configure their wireless care and the line
[01:23] <jeisma>  sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:24] <jeisma> didn't work out for me
[01:24] <jeisma> and now i don't know where to go from there
[01:24] <biovore> replace with kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:24] <biovore> what goes in blacklist should be the same
[01:24] <biovore> or install gedit :-P
[01:25] <Maxim000> :)
[01:25] <jeisma> biovore thank you! what is blacklist?
[01:25] <stdin> eddy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:25] <biovore> jeisma: modprobe load drivers.. so its a blacklist of drivers..
[01:25] <biovore> ones that behave badly
[01:26] <jeisma> ah i see
[01:48] <redshadowhero> So, Kubuntu 8.04 is going to come with KDE 4, right?
[01:48] <Odd-rationale> redshadowhero: I believe so
[01:48] <Odd-rationale> redshadowhero: It may not be LTS though
[01:48] <ignoramus> hey all.  does anyone know why some apps (i'm looking at you, Ktorrent) overlap the kicker panel, so that I can't see the bottom of the app's display?  I can hide kicker to see, but it shouldn't be like that, amirite?
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: It is like that for me...
[01:51] <ignoramus> odd-rationale: doesn't that drive you nuts?
[01:51] <redshadowhero> Oh, I see.
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: I just position the window higher...
[01:51] <redshadowhero> Is that going to cause any problems come April?
[01:51] <NickPresta> No, Hardy is not being shipped with KDE 4.0
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> NickPresta: WHAT!
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> NickPresta: isn't the whole thing that 3.5.8 won't be supported for the full 3-year LTS span, so it won't be an LTS release?
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> or rather, the 3.5 branch in general
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: there's no reason for a desktop distro to ship with kde 4.0
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> Last I heard, KDE4 will be available in the standard repositories for 8.04, but it won't be the default on the normal installation media
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> even kde devs have said that 4.0 is a dev release for the most part, and that users should wait for 4.1
[01:53] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: with my poor vision, i need that crap maximized!  There's gotta be a way for apps to respect Kicker's authoritar.  Screen for those who haven't dealt with this > http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapbi5.png
[01:54] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, you're correct
[01:54] <Odd-rationale> but the kde website said that it will have kde 4 http://kde.org/download/
[01:55] <NickPresta> It doesn't say 8.04 is the default. :)
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> :
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> (
[01:56] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, you can still install KDE 4.0 at your leisure. It just isn't going to be the default. Releasing an LTS with KDE 4.0 doesn't seem like a wise idea.
[01:56] <ignoramus> launchpad has Hardy listed as "KDE4" > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-hardy-kde4
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: you're still free to install it, i don't understand why you're going all sad-faced
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: It looks like that when you maximize?
[01:56] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: yup
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Daisuke_Ido: Will I have to uninstall kde 3?
[01:57] <NickPresta> Someone could always ask in #ubuntu+1 if they are unsure and want to hear the answer from the horses mouth :)
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ignoramus: yes, that's to get kde 4 *ready* for hardy.  it is not the default, will not be the default, and most certainly *should not* be the default
[01:57] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: I have the "hide" option on the right side of the panel for apps like this, but it's friggin annoying
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: if it's like it is now, no, you can have both side by side
[01:57] <Dr_willis> My wife likes the comiz zoom feature - to let her see things zoomed in. :)
[01:58] <ignoramus> daisuke_ido: you're probably right... btw, anyone who's not a dev or kde master will probably have a tough time with KDE4 in the state its in right now (very rough)
[01:58]  * Dr_willis seconds;s ignoramus ;s oponiion :)
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> Will there be an option to install kde 4 on installation? or will it have to be post-install like it is now?
[01:59]  * Daisuke_Ido thirds it
[01:59] <ignoramus> dr_willis: it shows great promise, but definitely not ready as a "stable" release
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: post-install
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> just like you're not given the option to install gnome or kde on install
[01:59] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: check Adept- you should have all the stuff right there... but don't say you weren't warned ;)
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a single option depending on what iso you download.
[02:00]  * Odd-rationale doesn't want LTS; he wants KDE 4.
[02:00] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, you can stay with Gutsy :)
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Yea - Ubuntiu dosent seem to follow the 'lets ask a lot of questions at install to let the user customize things' approach.
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> you certainly live up to your nick
[02:01] <ignoramus> Daisuke_Ido: are you talking to me?  what'd i say?
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: but in the end i think that helps new users a whole lot
[02:01] <DreadKnight> btw, when is 4.0.1 out?
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ignoramus: nooooo
[02:01]  * Dr_willis waits for service pack 1 for KDE4 
[02:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> not you :D
[02:01] <ignoramus> aha :)
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale :)
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: I already tried kde 4. It is still buggy. But in a couple months it should be quite solid. 4.1 comes out only like two months after...
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> 4.1 in what, june?
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Daisuke_Ido: I'm glad you like my nick. :)
[02:01] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: so i don't get what you're asking... what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:02] <DreadKnight> no point for that, the end of the world is in may xD
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i can see it being default by *maybe* 8.10, more likely 9.04
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> DreadKnight: impossible, the end of the world isn't until december 2012
[02:02] <DreadKnight> :D
[02:03] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: sorry didn;t mean to adress just you..
[02:04] <DreadKnight> 4.0.1 should be out in about 2 days right?
[02:05] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: believe me, people will answer no matter what :), but I don't understand what you want - you said you've already tried KDE4, but you're asking how to get it?  Maybe I'm misunderstanding?
[02:06] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: Just replying to your comment to be warned before hand. I know by expereince. :)
[02:06] <ignoramus> Odd-rationale: so how long until you uninstalled?  I think I made it a full day before I realized it was way too buggy, and many of my favorite options weren't there...
[02:07] <DreadKnight> omg xD
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i personally haven't uninstalled it
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> ignoramus: about the same
[02:07] <DreadKnight> i used it for ... um.. weeks  up until today xD
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> so i'm still pulling updates, and should get the upgrades around the time i should
[02:08] <ignoramus> Daisuke_Ido: how do you run KDE 3.5.8 without uninstalling 4?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> I just selected kde4 in the kdm menu
[02:08] <Dr_willis> or kde3
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, it's just a session selection
[02:08] <ignoramus> oh! well, i feel stupid :P
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i don't use kde on here
[02:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a gnomie on my desktop
[02:09] <ignoramus> i was surprised on how much space it took up
[02:09] <DreadKnight> hardy has sorting for kde3 / kde 4 apps in the menu, like when running kde3, you get a suffix for the KDE4 apps :)
[02:09] <Dr_willis> testing out ubuntu+1 here this week. :)
[02:09] <ignoramus> ubuntu+1???
[02:09] <DreadKnight> hardy
[02:09] <Dr_willis> We are getting wayyyyyy too much clutter in the  menus these days. :)
[02:10] <DreadKnight> i've tried hardy the last few days
[02:10] <Dr_willis> not near as bad as my vista machine is getting.
[02:10] <ignoramus> dr_willis: don't tell that to Linus!
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Im thinking a sorting of KDE stuff in one submenu, and gnome in another.. would help me. :)
[02:10] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: You can do the btw
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Then i guess ya got 'other' menu :)
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> gnome helps me keep things uncluttereded
[02:11] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: I saw a sript that does exactly that.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> #1 thing i like about the gnome menus. is i can disable the icons. I dont need icons nest to the program names.. i can read the names.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> heh
[02:11] <DreadKnight> O_o
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just thrilled to have finally found a gui-based program to check and repair using par2 volumes
[02:12]  * genii illiterately peers for the familiar icons
[02:12] <Dr_willis> Ihavent messed with par files in ages.
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> haven't been on usenet for ages? :)
[02:12] <Dr_willis> Ive not been on the newsgroups much lately :)
[02:12] <Dr_willis> Easier to find what i want with torrents.
[02:13] <ignoramus> dr_willis: are usenet groups still pay-by-month?
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Gotta love downloading 100 rar' and 100 pars to make a zip, of an isu.
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> ignoramus: it all depends
[02:13] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  not at my isp.
[02:13] <Odd-rationale> I probably shouldn't aks this here, but what is the best distro with kde 4 atm?
[02:13] <Dr_willis> theres free ones and comercial ones last i looked
[02:13] <DreadKnight> Odd-rationale: kubuntu ... or opensuse i guess
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> my isp's newsserver's included, most free ones are terrible, expect to pay around $25 for full unlimited access
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Odd-rationale,  I was thinking the kde4 site has a weekly livecd build - but not sure what its based on.
[02:13] <ignoramus> dr_willis: hmm... always checking out new ways to obtain, um, files... i've heard good things about DCC+ (i think its called that)
[02:14] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  dcc is annoying in ways
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> directconnect is a joke
[02:14] <DreadKnight> ignoramus: dc++
[02:14] <ignoramus> Daisuke_Ido: not worth it
[02:14] <ignoramus> yeah, thats it...  no good, eh?
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> not for me
[02:14] <ignoramus> Daisuke_Ido: slow?
[02:15] <DreadKnight> i like dc++ very nice for getting a song or two :P etc
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> slow, required share amounts, and i could never get it working properly
[02:15] <ignoramus> DreadKnight: you should check out skreemr.com - http-style :)
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> DreadKnight: and there's where you would want to look into something like soulseek (nicotine in linux)
[02:15] <DreadKnight> dc++ is the fastest if you join local hubs (i get a couple of mb's speed)
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and this is all so so so very...
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[02:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:15] <ignoramus> haha!
[02:16] <DreadKnight> hmm, will check those 2 out... i used emule (amule) before... but it's very slow
[02:16] <ignoramus> thanks for the help, guys. going for cognac.  be back tomorrow
[02:17] <DreadKnight> cognac? O_o
[02:17] <DreadKnight> erm
[02:17] <ignoramus> yeah, i get that a lot
[02:17] <DreadKnight> don't know what that is
[02:17] <DreadKnight> :D
[02:17] <ignoramus> usually old people or "gangstas" drink it
[02:17] <DreadKnight> ooo
[02:17] <DreadKnight> coniac :)
[02:17] <ignoramus> and i'm 26 and white, so, yeah
[02:18] <ignoramus> look it up.  gnite all.
[02:18] <DreadKnight> the gangster has left the building xD
[02:18] <dm_edge> hi everyone, Is there anyone here that knows how to solve network problems in kubuntu? I've been trying for hours to set up my network connection though nothing works. There was an internet connection once after installation, and after installing nvidia drivers I couldn't get an IP address by DHCP ever again, does anyone have an idea? I'm running kubuntu 7, and using admtek card (wired network)
[02:23] <flying> [10:22] <flying> Don`t trust Knetworkmanager,it displayed nothing.Use ping command.
[02:23] <shadowhywind> hay all, I just noticed that after a recent update. I lost my upload tab in ktorrent anyone know how to get it back?
[02:24] <redbeard77> how do I find out what CPU I have?
[02:24] <Odd-rationale> shadowhywind: Under the groups side bar select uploads then click on new tab
[02:25] <shadowhywind> ok thanks!
[02:25] <redbeard77> or is there a quick command I could use?
[02:25] <Odd-rationale> shadowhywind: np
[02:26] <Odd-rationale> redbeard77: lspci ?
[02:26] <shadowhywind> while I am here, Does anyone know why my printer (hp 1210) decided that it will only use the color(ugly yellow color) or my black ink not both at the same time?
[02:26] <redbeard77> ahhh ty odd
[02:27] <redbeard77> hmm doens't seem to show my CPU
[02:27] <Odd-rationale> redbeard77: Sorry. I think I got that wrong...
[02:28] <redbeard77> show's graphics and ethernet and pretty much everything but lol
[02:28] <redbeard77> it's ok
[02:28] <ol_dude67> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:29] <redbeard77> ahh cool ty ol_dude
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> Thanks ol_dude67. I knew you would coma and save me.
[02:29] <Makuseru> is there any way to convert a .cdi to a .iso?
[02:29] <ol_dude67> np
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> g2g
[02:31] <ol_dude67> Makuseru, what burn process are you using?
[02:31] <Makuseru> ol_dude67: i dont want to burn it, i just need it to be an ISO so a program can use it
[02:32] <ol_dude67> Makuseru, i see, sorry cant help you there.
[02:32] <frank23> Makuseru: try cdi2iso
[02:32] <frank23> Makuseru: never used it but it's in the repositories
[02:32] <Makuseru> frank23: installing now
[02:33] <ol_dude67> well that is my bad, i thought everyone should of checked those first.
[02:33] <frank23> Makuseru: I found it here http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[02:33] <frank23> Makuseru: google is your friend
[02:33] <ol_dude67> guess im still to use to slack...sorry
[02:34] <frank23> ol_dude67: ;)
[02:34] <erick> how do you do remote desktop sharing over the internet
[02:34] <ol_dude67> frank23, ya i have been thrown to the wolves to much.lol
[02:35] <heinkel_111> I need a java runtime environmnet for some web application, but which package to install? I am confused about choices. PS: I do not hack java....
[02:36] <heinkel_111> will FreeJava work with "normal" websites
[02:36] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package. it shoul dinstall java and some other bits you want
[02:36] <heinkel_111> ?
[02:36] <hemanathan> hi
[02:36] <ol_dude67> heinkel_111, http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Depends on the site :)
[02:36] <madik> erick: theres a bunch of possibilities
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Install  that -extras package and you should be et.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> set
[02:37] <frank23> heinkel_111: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:37] <Dr_willis> sell except for the flash disaster.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:37] <heinkel_111> Dr_Willis: oh yes, this is for airlines, banks and such stuff
[02:37] <heinkel_111> totally boring but i need it to just work
[02:37] <ol_dude67> flash is easy if you install by hand, other wise i think your screwed still.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package. it installs the actual sun java stuff.
[02:38] <heinkel_111> DR_willis: does it also attempt to install flash?
[02:38] <heinkel_111> because i have working flash...don't want it destroyed
[02:38] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: it does
[02:38] <heinkel_111> can i stop it from doing that, interactively somehow?
[02:38] <ol_dude67> if its installed already by hand it shouldnt...no guaranties.
[02:39] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: not sure about reinstalling... if you got the flash package checked it shouldn't reinstall it ...
[02:39] <heinkel_111> hmm. the kubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage, right?
[02:39] <DreadKnight> right
[02:39] <Dr_willis> It dident affect my flash that i saw. then again flashis easy to fix. :)
[02:40] <heinkel_111> so I could just list the components and go a la carte?
[02:40] <madik> oui
[02:40] <Dr_willis> it dosent do that. but if you got flash working.. it shouldent try to reinstall it.
[02:40] <madik> but they are all quite useful
[02:40] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: you could "check" the metapackage and uncheck the flash if it's on the list
[02:41] <DreadKnight> in adept
[02:41] <Makuseru> !epsxe
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epsxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <heinkel_111> i have to admit to being a command line apt fan now :-)
[02:41] <DreadKnight> :)
[02:42] <ubuntu> is it possible to log into a KDE4 session on the Hardy alpha 4 live cd?
[02:42] <DreadKnight> ubuntu: as far as i remember kde4 isn't installed by default.. hmm
[02:42] <Dr_willis> I normally just grab an unofficial fixed flash deb at --> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[02:42] <frank23> Makuseru: epsxe is a pain to setup with all the plugins
[02:43] <Dr_willis> But thats proberly not a reccomended way to fix it. :)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> epsxe can be a pain. :)
[02:43] <Makuseru> frank23: yes, yes it is
[02:43] <Dr_willis> But its nice when you find a plugin that does just what you need.
[02:43] <madik> Dr_willis: what ist fixed in this deb? myspace?
[02:43] <Makuseru> i cant get it to work ATM
[02:43] <Dr_willis> madik,  it actually installs properly. :)
[02:43] <mith_> hi...how can i create a x11 cursor theme?
[02:44] <DreadKnight> Rambo. John Rambo.
[02:44] <madik> and plays myspace-audio?
[02:44] <heinkel_111> Hi guys, in a metapackage, are the "real packages" listed as "recommends" ?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> X11 uses one set of pointers for the mouse, KDE has its own set, and GNOME has yet another set. :)
[02:44] <Dr_willis> I would say check kde-look.org for example mouse cursor themes.
[02:45] <heinkel_111> I can't  see any required packages in the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[02:45] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: definetly not
[02:45] <mith_> i can download a lot on kde-look, but i want to make my own...or try to make my own :)
[02:45] <madik> heinkel_111: no. its "depends"
[02:45] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: just fire up adept :) sudo adept_manager for the command line maniac in you xD
[02:45] <Dr_willis> mith_,  take one . Look at it. :) and how its laid out.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> mith_,  then change it. :)
[02:45] <ubuntu> It's a shame Kubuntu doesn't come with any graphics editing tools by default
[02:45] <ubuntu> :/
[02:46] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  a simple apt-get install gimp and there ya go.
[02:46] <frank23> Makuseru: how far did you get with epsxe?
[02:46] <madik> cause its so hard to install one later, ubuntu?
[02:46] <DreadKnight> ubuntu: it will soon ;) when koffice2 is out i guess :)  krita
[02:46] <ubuntu> totally missing the point there kids
[02:46] <Dr_willis> do we need a kimp? :)
[02:46] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  the cd is as full as it can be.. somthing has to go.
[02:46]  * Jucato wonders what he walked into...
[02:46] <Makuseru> frank23: it isntalled and i got all the plugins installed, but when i try to open an ISO i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54803/
[02:46] <DreadKnight> Dr_willis: krita rullz
[02:46] <heinkel_111> DreadKnight: you must be wrong...look here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54804/ <--- no "required" packages
[02:46] <Dr_willis> DreadKnight,  not tried that one. Im ok in gimp skills.
[02:47] <heinkel_111> and btw i see some others saw that in the meantime while i was pasting and binnning....
[02:47] <Jucato> Dr_willis: there was a kimp project before iirc.... but it died quite fast irrc too
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Theres 'talk' about the next release taking up 2 cd's - but i dont think thats going to happen.
[02:47] <DreadKnight> Dr_willis: it rather better as in feature... still laks some community userbase and polishness
[02:47] <DreadKnight> heinkel_111: :)
[02:47] <ubuntu> DreadKnight: koffice2 is due out at the end april, but I hope that at least a release candidate or something lands into Kubuntu 8.04
[02:47] <Dr_willis> DreadKnight,  i Miss good old Deluxe Paint.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:48] <frank23> Makuseru: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550304  look here and do the step about upx
[02:49] <DreadKnight> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install koffice or koffice2 (which is alpha 6 = crappy atm)
[02:49] <DreadKnight> kde4 has some sort of Mspaint tool in it
[02:49] <ubuntu> I know how to install Krita and that, but it should totally be there already
[02:50] <Jucato> ubuntu: I don't think they're on schedule... Jan. 30 is supposed to be Beta 1... none so far
[02:50] <DreadKnight> ubuntu: agree :\
[02:50] <Makuseru> frank23: "upx-ucl-beta is already the newest version."
[02:50] <frank23> Makuseru: and you have decompressed the epsxe binary?
[02:51] <frank23> Makuseru: had you done that before already?
[02:52] <Makuseru> epsxe opens
[02:52] <Makuseru> i can edit all the options and such
[02:53] <Makuseru> it just crashes when i try to open an ISO
[02:53] <redbeard77> !MMORPG
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <redbeard77> !games
[02:54] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:54] <frank23> Makuseru: are you using a software video plugin? try using that until you manage to get in game
[02:58] <redbeard77> sorry just trying to find a cool MMORPG that will work on Linux and in my hardware constraints
[02:58] <frank23> redbeard77: hardware not good enough for WoW?
[02:58] <Makuseru> frank23: it seems to be a video plugin problem
[02:59] <jeisma> ok so i went through all the steps iw as instructed to go through to get my wireless card to work on my specific laptop
[02:59] <jeisma> and networkmanager won't open when i click it
[02:59] <redbeard77> frank23: no note really plus I'm too poor to pay for WoW
[02:59] <frank23> Makuseru: does it work with the software plugin?
[02:59] <redbeard77> not*
[02:59] <jeisma> and i can find no indication that it's woring
[02:59] <Makuseru> i tried another and it didnt crash, but its still not working
[02:59] <frank23> redbeard77: ok
[02:59] <redbeard77> brb
[03:00] <jeisma> anyone know?
[03:01] <redbeard77> ok IB
[03:02] <frank23> Makuseru: I could send you an archive of my working epsxe
[03:02] <redbeard77> frank23: my CPU is only 600 and I"m not sure how much RAM I got
[03:02] <Makuseru> frank23: thank you very much
[03:03] <frank23> Makuseru: not sure what my upload speed is
[03:03] <Makuseru> it said failed
[03:03] <frank23> redbeard77: ok
[03:03] <Makuseru> do i need to be logged in ro get a transfer?
[03:03] <frank23> Makuseru: I don't know...
[03:04] <Makuseru> lemme try
[03:04] <redbeard77> jeisma: sorry not sure what that could be
[03:04] <Makuseru> frank23: try that again
[03:04] <Makuseru> please
[03:05] <frank23> Makuseru: I'm behind a firewall
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> skip epsxe
[03:06] <Makuseru> frank23: oh
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> seriously
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> it's buggy, hasn't been updated in forever, and is just plain not that great
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> you two can thank me later :)
[03:08] <redbeard77> what was the command to check graphics and ethernet and all that again?
[03:10] <Daisuke_Ido> redbeard77: lspci?
[03:11] <redbeard77> yeah that one ty
[03:18] <niall> !kde4
[03:18] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:21] <level1> I noticed that theres a package that updates netscape plugin support for konqueror and a new version of flash player; does this fix the standing issues with flash player?
[03:33] <adam_> Can I print to PDF in OpenOffice under Kubuntu?
[03:33] <adam_> lol nm
[03:34] <redbeard77> I didn't think Open office has a PDF viewer
[03:41] <jeisma> My sound doesn't work since i've installed kubuntu, how do i get it to work?
[03:42] <Ricket> This is going to be a really easy question for you, I think, but.. How do I make it so that I don't need to 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' every time the computer starts?
[03:43] <Ricket> I'm aware of the existence of /etc/modprobe.conf but I can't seem to get it to work.
[03:44] <wmorales> Ricket: /etc/modules
[03:44] <Ricket> oh! thanks, that's perfect! :)
[04:03] <jeisma> My sound doesn't work on kubuntu how do i fix it?
[04:03] <jeisma> the kmix is always muted
[04:03] <jeisma> and when i double click it,there is nothing in the window to change
[04:05] <sherl0k> open a terminal, run 'alsamixer'
[04:06] <sherl0k> and hit the spacebar
[04:06] <sherl0k>  er, the 'm' button
[04:09] <d0uglas> hi. i got 4 hard drives and i want to merge them into two pairs, one mirroring the other. Do i want to use software raid or lvm for this, and if raid, is that raid 1? thanks
[04:10] <d0uglas> (four 300gig drives, so 600gig total storage mirrored)
[04:10] <foibles> hello
[04:17] <jeisma> sherl0k how do i run "alsamixer" in the terminal? what do i type specifically
[04:17] <sherl0k> alsamixer ?
[04:18] <jeisma> yhes
[04:18] <sherl0k> that's all you run
[04:18] <sherl0k> if it's not there, install alsa-utils
[04:18] <jeisma> i just type "alsamixer" in the terminal?
[04:18] <sherl0k> yes
[04:19] <jeisma> jeisma@jeisma-laptop:~$ alsamixer
[04:19] <jeisma> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:19] <jeisma> so now i install it how?
[04:19] <jeisma> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils?
[04:19] <sherl0k> well
[04:19] <sherl0k> from the looks of that error, it shows you have no sound card installed
[04:20] <jeisma> well i know the sound works
[04:20] <jeisma> i had vista on it
[04:20] <jeisma> and sound worked perfectly yesterday
[04:20] <sherl0k> is it a new PC?
[04:20] <jeisma> so now what?
[04:20] <jeisma> relatively
[04:20] <sherl0k> hardware manufacturers are cutting corners and not making their hardware run on OS's other than Vista
[04:22] <foibles> has anyone here tried solarius 10?
[04:22] <jeisma> i bought it in september
[04:22] <foibles> solaris 10*
[04:23] <NickPresta> foibles, Solaris 10?
[04:23] <foibles> jeisma, how does it run?
[04:23] <NickPresta> foibles, I have a LiveCD beside me. I've yet to try it though.
[04:23] <jeisma> well sherl0k would it help if i gave you some wbesites that tried to show me how to make sound work on the same laptop i have
[04:23] <jeisma> cause i tried following their instrucitons
[04:23] <jeisma> but nothing happened
[04:23] <jeisma> sherl0k http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664353
[04:23] <sherl0k> i would find out the manufacturer of the sound card and check their website for help
[04:23] <foibles> NickPresta, where did you get the livecd?
[04:23] <jeisma> because other people have had the same problems, but they got it to work
[04:23] <foibles> i ordered a copy of it, but its not live, which is somewhat lame
[04:25] <adam_> I'm thoroughly intimidated by fstab, which doesn't seem to have my ide storage drive in it (part'd as hda1 & hda3).  How might I add the drive?
[04:26] <foibles> adam_, what file formats are they
[04:26] <adam_> fs type? ext3
[04:27] <foibles> adam_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[04:28] <adam_> foibles: Looks promising, thanks 8)
[04:31] <unagi> mythtv makes now sense
[04:32] <unagi> no*
[04:34] <adam_> unagi: I noticed that, when I looked at it a while back
[04:37] <unagi> front end, back end, what the heck
[04:38] <unagi> lol why cant it just be..........install........works
[04:41] <jeisma> haha i feel ya unagi
[04:41] <jeisma> anyone know where the restricted driver manager is in kubuntu?
[04:43] <npurciful> system settings > advanced
[04:45] <Kuwanger> Is there a better front-end to kde-looks.org than the kde desktop properties dialog?
[04:45] <unagi> fron-end to kde-looks?
[04:45] <unagi> whats that mean
[04:46] <npurciful> i think he is talking about hot new stuff
[04:46] <npurciful> or whatever it is
[04:46] <kiefer__> what file extension should a BASH script have? (Conventionally)
[04:46] <unagi> .sh?
[04:46] <kiefer__> Cheers :)
[04:47] <maduser> no extention
[04:47] <maduser> just the name of the file
[04:47] <maduser> and make it execuable
[04:47] <Kuwanger> There's the ability under the desktop settings to look through some of the wallpapers on kde-look.org.
[04:47] <kiefer__> maduser: Both good, thanks :)
[04:48] <Kuwanger> Unfortunately, it only lets you see ~20 from each category (highest rated, highest downloaded, etc)
[04:48] <maduser> go to the site itself
[04:48] <maduser> huge selection
[04:51] <Kuwanger> Ie, no.
[04:57] <unagi> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnetspliiiiiiiiiiiiit
[04:58] <alexbe01> um...
[04:58] <alexbe01> i'm willing to bet another cable just went
[04:58] <alexbe01> that was two massive netsplits on two different networks
[05:00] <unagi> that is a massive split
[05:02] <kiefer_> How do I change my default file browser from dolphin?
[05:02] <alexbe01> !dolphin
[05:02] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:02] <unagi> why woul du wanna do that
[05:02] <unagi> ew konq
[05:02] <alexbe01> unagi: because d3lphin is terrible.
[05:02] <unagi> whats wrong with it
[05:02] <kiefer_> its overly complilacted
[05:03] <alexbe01> dolphin (the version in kde 4) is quite nice
[05:03] <Jucato> that's a first :)
[05:03] <kiefer_> complicated*
[05:03] <Jucato> Dolphin > Konqueror > D3lphin...
[05:03] <stunatra> Dolphin is a bit slower than Konq.
[05:03] <alexbe01> d3lphin is based on an outdated branch and is woefully behind, not to mention ugly and unwieldy
[05:03] <unagi> konq is slow to me
[05:03] <unagi> and it doesnt want to browse the internet
[05:03] <unagi> dolphin looks rpetty to me
[05:03] <alexbe01> unagi: we're talking about a file manager, not a browser
[05:03] <Jucato> then there's something terrible wrong if Konq doesn't want to browse :)
[05:04] <kiefer_> So how do I change my default to konq?
[05:04] <Jucato> kiefer_: look above
[05:04] <kiefer_> oh, silly me, thanks :)
[05:04] <alexbe01> oh, wait
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> woo!
[05:04] <unagi> um
[05:04] <unagi> are you telling me that konq isnt listed in kubuntu as a web browser?
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> it is
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> but we're talking about using it as the default file manager
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> we're not even close to discussing it as a web browser
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have my issues with it - until it handles gmail correctly, i won't touch it - but that's neither here nor there
[05:06] <kiefer_> Lol, Just changed it to my default fbrowser, cheers guys :)
[05:08] <kiefer_> When programming in BASH is whats the line-break character when typing strings? (If there is one that is =] )
[05:08] <kiefer_> in BASH, whats*
[05:08] <hydrogen> \n
[05:08] <Jucato> aaah! the universal \n :D
[05:09] <Jucato> (or almost universal...)
[05:09] <kiefer_> lolz, good old \n, back in the days of C ^_^
[05:09] <kiefer_> Cheers :)
[05:09] <Jucato> kiefer_: I think there's a ##bash or #bash channel too for that kind of stuff
[05:09]  * Jucato is not sure which...
[05:10] <kiefer_> Lol, Ohk - Sorry, And thanks :)
[05:10] <kiefer_> Oooh there is, cheers:D
[05:19] <DreadKnight> speaking of bash, how do i browse one dir up?
[05:26] <adam_> DreadKnight: cd ..
[05:32] <mefisto__> I've been trying for a few days now to figure out why kdm login is always 1024x768. my xorg.conf now only has a Modes "1280x1024" line.
[05:33] <mixed> anyone has an open source DB they would recommend using?
[05:34] <adam_> mixed: I don't know sql, but I like that you can embed sqlite and it's only like 250K  8)
[05:35] <adam_> aww that's weak, after all that time I spent writing an answer...
[05:35]  * adam_ was waiting for netsplit so no one could read that ^
[05:44] <oneeyedelf1> how do I open the proprietary drivers window?
[05:46] <posingaspopular> Jucato:  \n is wheer it's at
[05:46] <Jucato> :P
[05:47] <oneeyedelf1> my kernel config is messed up in kubuntu is there a simple command to reinstall my current kernel?
[05:50] <DreadKnight> adam_: oh with the points, thanks mate :)
[05:51] <adam_> absolutely 8)
[06:18] <mefisto__> I've been struggling with a kdm screen res problem, and I have a feeling "xrandr --auto" might fix it. is there a startup script where I can add the command so that it sets the correct screenres before kdm login screen?
[06:21] <sigma> what is the official ubuntu server support channel?
[06:24] <posingaspopular> sigma16: #ubuntu-server
[06:24] <posingaspopular> or someone like that
[06:25]  * jussi01 tries to wake up.... mefisto__ /etc/init.d i _think_ (half asleeep could be totally off track)
[06:27] <mefisto__> jussi01: there's an xorg.conf option "PreferredMode" that sounds like it does what I want
[06:27] <mefisto__> crossing my fingers
[06:29] <jussi01> mefisto__: cool, didnt know about that one.
[06:37] <unagi> does kubuntu automatically have expresscard support
[06:37] <jussi01> unagi: expresscard?
[06:38] <unagi> geez........is expresscard really that unknown
[06:38] <virnik> huh
[06:38] <virnik> sure it have
[06:38] <virnik> another question
[06:38] <virnik> does somebody successfully modified kubuntu to kill compiz before hibernation?
[06:38] <ross_> Is anyone using MySql.Data.dll to connect to MySql in MonoDevelop?
[06:38] <jussi01> !anyone
[06:38] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:39] <virnik> it really pains me to ass, when I have to kill compiz before hibernate
[06:39] <virnik> jussi01: nice, but this one is real question, do u have problem with that?
[06:39] <virnik> if u cant answer, just do not react
[06:40] <jussi01> virnik: it was directed at ross_
[06:40] <virnik> hmmm
[06:40] <Jucato> virnik: you can try asking in #compiz-fusion
[06:40] <virnik> anyway
[06:41] <virnik> this is #kubuntu
[06:41] <virnik> and I am using kubuntu
[06:41] <Jucato> !compiz
[06:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:41] <virnik> so I am asking here...by the common logic
[06:41] <Jucato> yes, and we try to point you to the place where you might be able to get better help.
[06:41] <virnik> cos I need inf about script which is run by pressing hibernate from the shutdown menu of my KDM
[06:42] <virnik> Jucato: there is little missunderstanding
[06:42] <virnik> I am not asking about compiz...I really know compiz with it's behaviour
[06:42] <virnik> I am asking about kubuntu/ubuntu scripts
[06:42] <virnik> so, again, which script is called by pressing "hibernate" button?
[06:43] <mefisto__> jussi01: just for the record, Option "PreferredMode"  "1280x1024" worked! screenres is now as it should be before and after login, fonts look perfect everywhere, I'm overjoyed. And it was so simple
[06:43] <jussi01> mefisto__: thats fantastic :)
[06:43] <ross_> jussi01: I'm getting compiler errors: "The class System.data.Common.DbConnection could not be loaded, used in System.Data, Version 2.0.0.0"
[06:43] <mefisto__> and more importantly, xine video aspect is working right now
[06:44] <jussi01> ross_: ahhh, ok, Ive no Idea about that error. there are a lot of people in #mysql that may be helpful if you dont get an answer here
[06:46] <ross_> jussi01: Thanks, I am pursuing the question there right now...
[06:52] <Ayabara> I need a tip on a good, dark theme for Gutsy. Anyone?
[06:52] <adam_> kde4
[06:53] <jussi01> Ayabara: ubuntu studio theme
[06:53] <Ayabara> adam_: 4.0.1 out yet? someone told me to wait for that one
[06:53] <jussi01> Ayabara: I think someone made one for kubuntu
[06:54] <adam_> Ayabara: Probably a good idea... it's not out yet... Soon I hear, though
[06:55] <Ayabara> jussi01: this one? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+Ubuntu-studio+look?content=62817
[06:56] <jussi01> Ayabara: thats pretty close, yes
[07:01] <unagi> does kubuntu support expresscard?
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i think so, but i know they don't take american express...
[07:04] <jussi01> unagi: from google results, look like a few peope have had issues...
[07:04] <unagi> ok
[07:17] <Qrawl> new kernel today?
[07:18] <virnik> hi there, can somebody please tell me, which script should I modify, to kill compiz in KDE, once I hit suspend button?
[07:18] <virnik> no reaction in #compiz-fusion chan, so i am asking here
[07:18] <jussi01> Qrawl: looks that way.
[07:19] <Qrawl> ok
[07:20] <val0> Qrawl: fixes nvidia memory leaks
[07:20] <Qrawl> !
[07:20] <Qrawl> does it fix the black screen thing
[07:20] <jussi01> virnik: possibly /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh ??
[07:20] <val0> Qrawl: not too sure what are reffering to...
[07:21] <Qrawl> I run out of memory with compiz effects and screens start turning black
[07:22] <val0> Qrawl: i don't use it so i really don't know if that solves the issue, sorry
[07:22] <Qrawl> ok
[07:22] <Qrawl> time to reboot
[07:25]  * Daisuke_Ido gets out the "rebooting isn't the solution" stick
[07:26] <kiefer_> LMAO
[07:27] <Absurdo> my kopete don't play sounds.. help :/
[07:27]  * kiefer_ has a toothache and needs milk and smokes, bbl
[07:30] <sveri> what about a doctor kiefer?
[07:34]  * jussi01 tickles Daisuke_Ido with a kernel update
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> that isn't a problem that requires a solution though :)
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> rebooting is necessary sometimes, but it's not the first resort like in that OTHER os.
[07:38] <yolnizzle> hell guys please i need some help on my kubuntu
[07:38] <yolnizzle> hello guys please i need some help on my kubuntu
[07:39] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: in Qrawl's case, it was a reboot to a new kernel I think
[07:40] <jussi01> !ask | yolnizzle
[07:40] <ubotu> yolnizzle: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:41]  * Daisuke_Ido puts the stick away
[07:43] <yolnizzle> i hear no sound from my system. its says no mixer found i use a hp omnibook 900
[07:44] <jussi01> yolnizzle: what is your sound card?
[07:45] <yolnizzle> its neomagic
[07:45] <unagi> ok so tvtime has shown me that my webcam works.........how do i use my webcam on aim or msn
[07:47] <Absurdo> my kopete don't play the notifications? anybody help-me?
[07:52] <yolnizzle> help my kubuntu dont display sound. my kubuntu also doesnt display the battery meter [neomagic magic graph sound card]
[07:52] <jussi01> !sound | yolnizzle
[07:52] <ubotu> yolnizzle: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> that could be because sound is aural and display implies some sort of visual medium...
[07:57] <aantipop> is it possible to switch the language of ther terminal ?
[07:58] <zorglu_> q. everytime i reboot, i.e. every morning, the system rescans my whole disk with updatedb. this is quite a waste :) howcan i disable that ?
[08:06] <zorglu_> ok all kubuntu helpers went to sleep :)
[08:06] <skar> how do i make konsole create shell which displays "user@host:!#" form, its now displaying "$" prompt
[08:06] <zorglu_> i will use the empty threat trick!!! be carefull :)
[08:07] <zorglu_> skar: you have to play with the PS1 variable of bash
[08:07] <zorglu_> $ echo $PS1
[08:07] <zorglu_> \u@\h:\W\$
[08:07] <Jucato> skar: the # is used to show that the user is the root user. $ is for normal users
[08:08] <skar> Jucato: thanks
[08:08] <skar> zorglu_: will try setting this var
[08:08] <alan> would someone help me mount this usb drive?
[08:08] <alan> it doesnt seem to want to auto mount.
[08:08] <zorglu_> skar: like export PS1="\u@\h:\W\$"
[08:08] <alan> also it says in my mtab that /dev/sda1 is mounted at /, and i know for a fact that isnt true.
[08:09] <Jucato> zorglu_: there must either be a cron or updatedb/locate config that sets it up?
[08:09] <skar> zorglu_: nope, something's wrong, bash completion isn't working, while it works for other users, something other than bash seems to be running
[08:09] <zorglu_> Jucato: yep but i dont want to look that up. im lazy. i want a simple step by step solution :)
[08:09] <Jucato> hahah
[08:09] <zorglu_> skar: echo $SHELL
[08:09] <skar> ps shows sh as command, while for another user it shows bash, so wrong shell then
[08:10] <zorglu_> skar: this will tell you the shell you are runing
[08:10] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok ok i will look then :)
[08:10] <skar> zorglu_: /bin/sh in this problem user, while /bin/bash for the other users
[08:11] <zorglu_> skar: what about putting them all in bash ?
[08:11] <skar> zorglu_: dunno why and how this user alone got sh as shell X-(
[08:12] <unagi> !mythtv
[08:12] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:12] <zorglu_> skar: me neither :)
[08:13] <skar> zorglu_: ok got it, (k)ubuntu defaults to the crappy (da)sh, removed it now
[08:13] <zorglu_> skar: cool :)
[08:14] <Jucato> !dash
[08:14] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash
[08:14]  * Jucato whistles innocently...
[08:15] <appelza> any reason for dash instead of bash?
[08:15] <appelza> in *buntu's context.
[08:16] <Jucato> lightweight and fast I think... debianized... maybe.. (Debian Al...mist SHell)...
[08:18] <zorglu_> debian like to tamper with bash :)
[08:19] <zorglu_> they removed the ability to do socket in shell for no apparent reason
[08:19]  * Jucato shrugs...
[08:23] <aantipop> where can i post large text snippets ?
[08:23] <posingaspopular> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:23] <aantipop> and they should stay a few days
[08:24] <aantipop> when will this expire ?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> Jucato: do you know?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> i want to say a week, but im not sure
[08:25] <aantipop> should be enough, ill save a local copy :)
[08:26] <aantipop> uhm how do i select the hole konsole output ?
[08:26] <aantipop> ctrl + a does not work
[08:26] <posingaspopular> with the moust
[08:26] <posingaspopular> mouse*
[08:27] <aantipop> takes too long !!
[08:27] <posingaspopular> and then right click
[08:27] <aantipop> with mouse autoscrolling it would take 15 minutes for all that text
[08:28] <aantipop> oh, got it
[08:29] <yolnizzle> please i need some help on my kubuntu battery meter its not displaying ...
[08:30] <neville> Try running kpowersave?
[08:38] <yolnizzle> after running kpower save it says [ could not find the spacified command ]
[08:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello.
[08:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was wondering if someone has a theme for KDE 3.5 by the name of Universe Crimson.  The download page on kde-look.org is not working or is parked.
[08:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I would like to find it so I can install it on my machine.
[08:57] <stf_> Hi. I managed to get my own usplash working my first ubuntu pc, but not on the second one. Both have usplash installed, both have /usr/lib/usplash/mytheme.so added to the alternatives system, both have had "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" and "sudo update-initramfs -u" executed, they have identical Ubuntu versions and GRUB configs. What could I have forgotten to do on the second one?
[09:39] <unagi> i swear kubuntu uninstalls things without my knowing
[09:39] <jpatrick> unagi: such as?
[09:40] <unagi> wicd
[09:40] <unagi> before i thought i was nuts but i was here when wicd just disappeared
[09:41] <ra1> I need help people.  I have a rubbish 'Kingbridge' laptop which has a Via8237A chipset.  the Boot screen falls over after I've selected the Boot from CD or install.  I've tried options to run vga=771.  It is a widescreen thing.  Any ideas what I should try next........I've tried a zillion Google searches without any luck.
[09:41] <jpatrick> W: Unable to locate package wicd
[09:42] <unagi> i really just want my webcam and tv tuner to work
[09:43] <akuma_> hey guys
[09:43] <akuma_> D
[09:43] <akuma_> what is the root password after you install from the DVD?
[09:43] <jussi01> !root
[09:43] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:45] <stf_> Hey, I installed the latest usplash on Dapper, installed a working theme for it, installed/selected it as an alternative and updated the initramfs. But usplash then only works on shutdown and manual invocation. Not on boot. Any hints?
[09:49] <acemo> i just rebooted my computer and the sound doesnt works anymore.. however when i do lspci | grep "Audio" it still prints out "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[09:49] <unagi> acemo is alsa master up?
[09:50] <akuma_> someone gave me a help on getting compiz to work with Kubuntu and its crap...
[09:50] <acemo> unagi: kmix just displays a red cross on the mic icon and says Mixer cannot be found
[09:50] <akuma_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:51] <akuma_> is what someone gave me... can someone give me another howto that "works"
[09:51] <akuma_> compiz-kde and what not doesnt exist
[09:51] <unagi> it exists
[09:51] <unagi> akuma_:
[09:51] <akuma_> i just ran an apt-get and nothing came up
[09:52] <jussi01> acemo: what did you do before the reboot? have you just upgraded?
[09:52] <acemo> jussi01: i just enabled twinview in nvdidia-settings
[09:52] <unagi> are your repos right akuma_? it exists
[09:52] <romunov> akuma_: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users
[09:53] <ultracap> Managed to get usplash working by setting a resolution of 640x480 in usplash.conf
[09:53] <romunov> i did experience problems with certain programs (open office)
[09:53] <romunov> so if you use that, don't use compiz :)
[09:53] <jussi01> acemo: tats weird - I know there are issues with intel hda, but if it was working...
[09:53] <akuma_> i just got done installing the DVD of Kubuntu
[09:53] <acemo> jussi01: i dont think that could have caused it.. because x.org has nothing to do with sound right?
[09:54] <acemo> jussi01: there are issues indeed... it was a hell getting the sound to work
[09:54] <jussi01> acemo: dont think so. but have a look at !intelhda - maybe there is info there to help
[09:54] <jussi01> !intelhda
[09:54] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:54] <apparle> hi
[09:54] <akuma_> unagi: i would figure a fresh install would have everything working... do i need to do some sorta apt update or something?
[09:54] <unagi> if you added a  repo then
[09:55] <unagi> then yea
[09:55] <akuma_> unagi: repo? i did sudo apt-get update and it ran...
[09:55] <acemo> jussi01: ill try to just reinstall whole alsa stuff acording to that howto :)
[09:55] <jpatrick> 5
[09:56] <unagi> akuma_: are ur universe and multiverse ebabled?
[09:56] <akuma_> unagi: i am not sure, i've never used Ubuntu based distro except Debian back in the day
[09:56] <apparle> How to use apt-zip
[09:56] <unagi> i dont really know what to say.........apt-get install compiz-kde works for me
[09:56] <unagi> !compiz
[09:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:56] <romunov> akuma_: did you check the link i gave you?
[09:57] <unagi> anyone have a tv tuner with kubuntu
[09:57] <akuma_> thats where i am at now
[09:57] <akuma_> i type in the kde one because im running Kubuntu and it says compiz-kde doesnt exist
[09:58] <jpatrick> !info compiz-kde | akuma_
[09:58] <ubotu> akuma_: compiz-kde (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 228 kB
[09:58] <akuma_> says could not find package
[09:58] <unagi> like i said
[09:58] <unagi> ur universe isnt enabled
[09:58] <jussi01> akuma_: you need to enable the universe repo
[09:58] <akuma_> how do i enable that?
[09:58] <acemo> akuma_: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # before the universe repo
[09:59] <acemo> akuma_: after that apt-get update, then it should work
[09:59] <jussi01> akuma_: system -> adept -> manage repositories -> tick universe
[09:59] <apparle> does anybody here use apt-zip
[10:00] <akuma_> which universe?
[10:00] <Sbucatone> cinepaint debian exist ?
[10:00] <apparle> I want to learn a platform independent programming language. Which one hsould I go for
[10:01] <acemo> akuma_: #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
[10:01] <acemo> akuma_: there should be this line in ur /etc/apt/sources.list remove the # before it
[10:01] <Sbucatone> i have a problem with adept and cinepaint it said BREAK
[10:01] <Sbucatone> so i can not install it ..
[10:01] <Sbucatone> =(
[10:02] <Sbucatone> Divilinux: oi
[10:02] <Divilinux> ciao
[10:02] <apparle> I want to learn a platform independent programming language. Which one should I go for
[10:03] <Sbucatone> Divilinux: have you installed cinepaint ? damn i have a problem it said BREAk on adept
[10:03] <acemo> apparle: Java is a good choice for a platform independent programming language
[10:03] <Sbucatone> apparle: c++ python
[10:03] <Divilinux> not yet...
[10:03] <jpatrick> !ot | apparle
[10:03] <ubotu> apparle: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:04] <akuma_> now its saying it cannot find compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:04] <apparle> jpatrick: Alright
[10:04] <apparle> Anybody can help me with apt-zip??
[10:05] <akuma_> i am wondering how come all this stuff on the source.list is commented out...?
[10:07] <apparle> can anybody hear me???
[10:07] <apparle> I wanna check if I am connected
[10:07] <apparle> Can anybody help me with apt-zip
[10:10] <apparle> Am I visible to others???
[10:10] <sbcom> hi
[10:10] <apparle> can any body hear me??
[10:10] <sbcom> kasi az iran hast?
[10:10] <apparle> sbcom: hi
[10:11] <sbcom> :0
[10:11] <sbcom> :)
[10:11] <apparle> sbcom: Can you read what I say??
[10:11] <Jucato> apparle: yes. you're visible.
[10:12] <Jucato> !ir | sbcom
[10:12] <ubotu> sbcom: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.
[10:12] <sbcom> tanx
[10:12] <Jucato> apparle: try asking a specific question, and then anyone who knows the answer could answer, if they know
[10:12] <apparle> Jucato: thanks for telling me that. Was my question about apt-zip also visible??
[10:13] <Jucato> yes. but...
[10:13] <Jucato> !anybody
[10:13] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:13] <Jucato> !patience
[10:13] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <apparle> Jucato: There is a connection problem here and my connection is being reset frequently. Ijust wanted to know whether I as connected?
[10:14] <Jucato> so far no problem
[10:16] <apparle> I am unable to connect to packages.ubuntu.com. Somebody else please check if they can open the site
[10:17] <Jucato> can't connect either
[10:18] <apparle> Jucato: In which place are you
[10:18] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato :)
[10:18] <Jucato> SE Asia
[10:18] <Jucato> yo
[10:19] <ForgeAus> how does ubiquity install? from an image?
[10:19] <ForgeAus> from packages? what?
[10:19] <apparle> Jucato: Tell me the country. I am in India
[10:20] <jpatrick> p.u.c is down
[10:21] <apparle> Any other method to get packages
[10:21] <jpatrick> apparle: apt-get?
[10:22] <Jucato> apparle: philippines
[10:22] <ForgeAus> Apparl you can get them manually and copy them...
[10:22] <ForgeAus> I mean you seem to have a nework connection
[10:23] <apparle> jpatrick: right now I am on a box with WinXP and want to get some packages to take home on USB drive
[10:23] <jpatrick> ah, right..
[10:24] <apparle> jpatrick: Can anything be done.
[10:24] <ForgeAus> all the packages are are .deb files you can install into your OS, but Adept is easier if you can use it
[10:26] <LamerMan> hi everyone! can i make separate navigation panel (on the left side) for every "tab" in konqueror?
[10:26] <apparle> ForgeAus: As I already said, I either have a computer 'with internet and Windows XP' or a computer 'without network but with kubuntu'
[10:27] <acemo> First you must find which model of sound card you use, so run this command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec               so i run the command and it says no such file or directory.. is there a other way of finding out wich model/codec i have?
[10:28] <apparle> jpatrick: Will I have to wait untill p.u.c is running again
[10:28] <ForgeAus> without a network doesn't matter if you have kubuntu all you need is access to the .deb files you can download to your usb drive
[10:28] <ForgeAus> (that is download in XP)
[10:28] <Jucato> ForgeAus: which goes back to his problem of packages.ubuntu.com being down...
[10:29] <apparle> ForgeAus: Thats what I wanna do. But unable to connect to packages.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <Jucato> LamerMan: I don't think so
[10:30] <apparle> Jucato: and ForgeAus: On the ubuntu chatroom, somebody told me that 'apt-zip' will generate a script for linux and which can be converted to DOS. So can anybody help with apt-zip.??
[10:30] <ForgeAus> you don't need packages.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <ForgeAus> apt-zip? interesting... lol
[10:31] <Jucato> ForgeAus: he does if he wants an easy way to 1. download the .deb files and 2. see the dependencies
[10:31] <Jucato> (referring to packages.ubuntu.com)
[10:33] <acemo> First you must find which model of sound card you use, so run this command: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec               so i run the command and it says no such file or directory.. is there a other way of finding out wich model/codec i have?
[10:35] <apparle> Jucato: It may seem to you that its easy using p.u.c but its not. try installing any simple software like mplayer with p.u.c and you will understand what an headache it is!!!!!! Doing it for 6months. It takes me almost a week to install a software.> Download a package> Go home and check dependencies> Come back and download dependencies>Go home and check dependencies of dependencies  and so on
[10:36] <Jucato> apparle: much easier than going to archive.ubuntu.com and searching for the .deb, trying to install it, realizing it needs some other .deb, going back to p.u.c, rinse and repeat
[10:37] <apparle> Jucato: Much difficult than apt-get. Don't tell me you use the method you told above
[10:37] <Jucato> fortunately no :)
[10:38] <Jucato> why can't you get an internet connection on your Kubuntu?
[10:39] <Jucato> apparle: don't know if this can help: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[10:39] <Jucato> !aptoncd
[10:39] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[10:39] <Jucato> ah no...
[10:41] <apparle> Jucato: Impossible. No permission from parents. Apt-zip is similar to apt-get for people like me . It is similar to aptoncd but it generates a linux script. This script can then e converted to DOS and then used on XP. I just don't know how to use apt-zip
[10:42] <apparle> nobody here knows how to use apt-zip. Last week I got many replies
[10:43] <jussi01> apparle: you could do: man apt-zip
[10:44] <ForgeAus> or google it?
[10:44] <apparle> jussi01: I read the whole man page and understood nothing. you see I am new to linux
[10:45] <apparle> jpatrick: do you know when p.u.c will be up again
[10:45] <ForgeAus> app persoanlly I don't find man pages that helpful either other than something like to refresh my memory on a switch
[10:45] <jpatrick> apparle: no idea
[10:46] <apparle> anybody else knows when p.u.c will start again??
[10:46] <Jucato> (different man pages, different qualities... they're not all written by the same person... :P)
[10:50] <apparle> Is anybody free here?? I mean really free 'coz I have got a heavy job??
[10:50] <Gast909> hello, i've got a problem with installing g++. is there anybody who is
[10:50] <Gast909> willing to help me?
[10:50] <Gast909> ^^
[10:50] <apparle> Gast909: what's the problem?
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> Gast909: just state the problem and if we can help, we will.
[10:50] <Gast909> the problem is
[10:51] <Gast909> iwant to do some programming with c++
[10:51] <acemo> great way to spend youre birthday... trying to get youre own computers sound to work wich used to work perfectly :)
[10:51] <Gast909> i wrote a little program
[10:51] <Gast909> openend the console
[10:51] <Gast909> and tried to compile via g++
[10:52] <Jucato> Gast909: you need to install "build-essential". there aren't any compilers installed by default
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> "g++ myprogram.c"?
[10:52] <Gast909> well, i received the msg that g++ is not installed, then i tried the following
[10:52] <Gast909> command "get-apt g++"
[10:52] <apparle> acemo: Don't be sad. Happy B'day. What's the problem. I am a new user but I may be useful
[10:52] <Jucato> Gast909: it's
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> it's "apt-get" and you need to use sudo
[10:52] <Jucato> Gast909: it's "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:52] <Gast909> ah
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:52] <Gast909> yeas
[10:52] <jpatrick> !b-e
[10:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:52] <Gast909> i tried
[10:53] <Gast909> but he said that i need the kubuntu cd
[10:53] <Gast909> i put it into the drive
[10:53] <apparle> Gast909: have you got the kubuntu cd?
[10:53] <Gast909> but he does not accept
[10:53] <Gast909> yes
[10:53] <jpatrick> Gast909: rmeove the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:53] <apparle> insert it
[10:53] <Gast909> uh
[10:53] <acemo> apparle: the problem is that it seems the soundcard suddenly aint installed anymore
[10:53] <Gast909> i am still quite noob with kubuntu
[10:54] <Jucato> the CD doesn't have any compiler
[10:54] <apparle> and then run the command. don't remove the cd
[10:54] <Gast909> can you tell me the command?
[10:54] <apparle> Jucato: my cd had build-essential packages in it
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> Gast909: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", remove the line which refers to the CDROM, then press CTRL-X  to save. After you've saved, type "sudo apt-get update".
[10:54] <Jucato> apparle: Alternate Install CD?
[10:55] <heilfrucht> hallo
[10:55] <apparle> acemo: install it then
[10:55] <Gast909> one sec
[10:55] <apparle> Jucato: live cd
[10:55] <Gast909> i have to note this
[10:55]  * Jucato is sure the policy hasn't changed.. no compilers installed by default
[10:55] <apparle> jucato: It isn't installed by default but .deb packges are provided if you want to install
[10:56] <Jucato> apparle: really? hm.. haven't checked lately...
[10:56] <Jucato> oh well
[10:56]  * Jucato thinks he knows Kubuntu less and less these days...
[10:56] <acemo> apparle: thats what i have been trying the last one and half hour already =)
[10:56] <guardian> hi
[10:57] <guardian> will kubuntu come with a restricted drivers manager as well as a network manager ?
[10:57] <apparle> jucato: I am not sure whether .deb are in ubuntu or kubuntu live cd
[10:57] <Gast909> re
[10:58] <apparle> guardian: I am sure about restricted drivers maneger. Dunno about network manger
[10:58] <Gast909> okay, i have to remove the cd-drive vom list
[10:58] <apparle> Gast909: Hae you removed the cd from list?
[10:58] <guardian> i installed kubuntu on my laptop from the kde4 livecd
[10:58] <guardian> is there a Qt restricted driver manager already ?
[10:58] <Gast909> and then "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:59] <Gast909> no sry
[10:59] <Gast909> i am working with xp atm
[10:59] <Gast909> because java isn't installed @kubuntu
[10:59] <SlimeyPete> Gast909: yes that's correct
[10:59] <Gast909> and i do not have the time to install it now 8(
[10:59] <Gast909> well i restart try to do what you told me and
[11:00] <Gast909> be back afterwards to report :)
[11:00] <Gast909> thank you very much :)
[11:00] <apparle> guardian: I am using it. Its name is mostly restricted-driver-manager-kde
[11:00] <apparle> acemo: You are using ALSA drivers??
[11:01] <acemo> apparle: trying to use alsa yeah
[11:01] <guardian> ok so it's not installed because i used the kde4 live cd ?
[11:01] <apparle> acemo: Compiled and installed alsa-drivers ??
[11:01] <acemo> apparle: yep]
[11:01] <apparle> guardian: Ya
[11:02] <apparle> guardian: maybe. I am not sure
[11:02] <guardian> ok i'll test hardy alpha4 then
[11:02] <acemo> apparle:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device       this is the error am getting
[11:02] <apparle> acemo: Did you run alsaconf ?
[11:03] <apparle> guardian: Why? Use the gutsy CD
[11:03] <acemo> apparle: yeah i did
[11:03] <apparle> acemo: Did any sound card get selected?
[11:04] <acemo> apparle: my soundcard did get detected, it says the "Now ALSA is ready to use", i scroll up a bit and see  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[11:04] <apparle> No body has got some time to help me?
[11:04] <acemo> oops wrong message copied
[11:04] <acemo> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
[11:04] <acemo> this one i see
[11:05] <apparle> acemo: That error has rendered me sound less
[11:05]  * SlimeyPete has never managed to get HDA working under Gutsy. ATI HDA, though.
[11:06] <apparle> acemo: try this> open konsole> asoundconf list
[11:06] <acemo> apparle: Names of available sound cards:
[11:06] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$
[11:07] <apparle> SlimeyPete: I have got the same card. tell me when you get yours wrking
[11:07] <apparle> acemo: which one is yours?
[11:08] <acemo> apparle: ALC889A
[11:08] <acemo> apparle: from lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:09] <apparle> acemo: asoundconf set-default-card <name of card from the list>
[11:09] <blizzzek> hi
[11:09] <acemo> apparle: from what list?
[11:09] <apparle> acemo: select a sound card from the list resulting due to asoundconf list
[11:09] <apparle> acemo: select a sound card from the list resulting due to "asoundconf list"
[11:10] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ asoundconf list
[11:10] <acemo> Names of available sound cards:
[11:10] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$
[11:11] <apparle> acemo: You don't get any card in the list. Congratulations! You are just like me  :( soundless :(
[11:12] <acemo> apparle: thanks! :) i know it can work tho.. it used to work..
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> apparle: I heard that the latest ALSA fixes the problem for some people
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> acemo: mine used to work in Fiesty
[11:13] <acemo> SlimeyPete: am tempted to install hardy..
[11:14] <SlimeyPete> I guess that might work, though they may not have updated ALSA yet.
[11:14] <acemo> SlimeyPete: i shall find that out :)
[11:14] <SlimeyPete> :)
[11:15] <acemo> too bad there aint a kde4 version of hardy yet
[11:25] <acemo> anyone knows if the soundblaster live will work out of the box in kubuntu 7.10? friend of me has one laying around.. if that works i dont have to reinstall =)
[11:25] <SlimeyPete> acemo: it will.
[11:25] <acemo> great
[11:25] <SlimeyPete> in fact it'll work with pretty much any linux distro released in the last five years - the SB Live is very well-supported :)
[11:26] <acemo> thats pretty sweet :)
[11:26]  * SlimeyPete keeps one in a drawer for emergencies ;)
[11:26] <acemo> think it will automagicly install it or ill have to manually do that? =p
[11:27] <sigma_1234> would it be illegal to distribute linux with arial as the default interface font?
[11:27] <SlimeyPete> heh, now that I don't know, to be honest. I imagine the kernel module is installed by default so it *should* be loaded automatically but you may have to check your modules configuration in /etc/
[11:28] <jussi01> sigma_1234: consult a lawyer, but I think so.
[11:28] <acemo> sigma_1234: big chance yeah
[11:29] <Gast930> apparle?
[11:29] <sigma_1234> weird. how does msoft get to use it if it belongs to adobe?
[11:29] <mith_> hi all! How can i install an irda driver?
[11:29] <Gast930> jpatrick?
[11:29] <mith_> !irda
[11:29] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[11:30] <acemo> Gast930: just ask youre question asking random names wont give you any usefull answers i belive
[11:30] <Gast930> well, after having removed the cd line from the sources.list it finally works
[11:30] <jussi01> !ot | sigma_1234
[11:30] <ubotu> sigma_1234: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:31] <Gast930> just one (and hopefully the last) question
[11:32] <Gast930> if i want to compile a program with g++, i use "g++ -o -wall (name) (sourcefile)". how can i change the folders while using the console?
[11:33] <acemo> ../ to go up a folder
[11:33] <Gast930> "../"
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> Gast930: cd
[11:33] <Gast930> in windows / dos it is
[11:33] <Gast930> cd
[11:33] <stdin> you need "cd" before there, cd = change directory
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> cd ..
[11:33] <Gast930> ah
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> cd dirname
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> etc
[11:33] <Gast930> in linux too?
[11:33] <acemo> ahh doh yeah..
[11:33] <Gast930> kk
[11:33] <SlimeyPete> Gast930: yes, it's the same but there must be a space between "cd" and "..", unlike DOS.
[11:34] <stdin> Gast930: that command is common to just about every OS
[11:34] <Gast930> thy :)
[11:34] <enry> hello
[11:35] <Gast930> next month i've got semester break so i can spend more time to get familiar with kubuntu, thx a lot, have a nice day! :)
[11:36] <SlimeyPete> enry: hi.
[11:42] <remi_> salut
[11:44] <Whitman> I've locked down an account with kiosktool and want to run a script in ~/.kde/Autostart but I get an error on login about permissions.  The script is owned by the locked down account and has +x but for some reason it won't run.  Any ideas? (I've asked in #kde but got no reply)
[11:47] <jussi01> Whitman: have you got #! /bin/bash on the top of the script?
[11:47] <Whitman> jussi01, yes
[11:47] <jussi01> Whitman: not sure
[11:47] <Whitman> well, /bin/sh specifically
[11:48] <jussi01> ahh yeah
[12:02] <Whitman> Fixed it, had to set shell_access=true which, while not ideal, doesn't matter in my case as the kiosk users can only run 2 .desktop files both opening the prism browser.
[12:04] <jussi01> Whitman: good going :D
[12:06] <Whitman> Just found a better solution on the kiosktool mailing list but I think I'll leave it as it is
[12:20] <yolnizzle> please why does my konsole keep giving a [ c++ preprocessor error ]
[12:20] <zorglu_> !info dpkg
[12:20] <yolnizzle> please why does my konsole keep giving a [ c++ preprocessor error ]
[12:20] <ubotu> dpkg (source: dpkg): package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.14.5ubuntu16 (gutsy), package size 2123 kB, installed size 6712 kB
[12:21] <yolnizzle> please why does my konsole keep giving a [ c++ preprocessor error ]
[12:21] <Jucato> !patience | yolnizzle
[12:21] <ubotu> yolnizzle: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:21] <yolnizzle> 10ks guys
[12:21] <Jucato> yolnizzle: when are you getting this error? what are you trying to do? if you could give more details, that would assist you in getting help
[12:22] <Jucato> we are not mind readers :)
[12:22] <romunov> yes we are, speak for yourself
[12:22] <mith_> how can i make a .o file? can i make it from a .h file?
[12:22] <oguz1327> hi babes
[12:22] <yolnizzle> each time i try to run [./ configure ]
[12:23] <Jucato> yolnizzle: do you have build-essential installed?
[12:23] <yolnizzle> please how do i check ?
[12:23] <Jucato> mith_: um.. you need a .cpp that goes with the .h for that... what are you trying to do
[12:23] <Jucato> romunov: I'll keep that in mind next time
[12:24] <Jucato> yolnizzle: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" should install the basic things you need for compiling
[12:24] <yolnizzle> [ i downloaded some apps in tar.bz2 format. ] 10ks a lot jucato
[12:24] <ol_dude67> jucato,why isnt in a regular install if you are going to use it in the first place?
[12:25] <ol_dude67> just asking
[12:25] <Jucato> ol_dude67: hum?
[12:25] <Jucato> !b-e | yolnizzle
[12:25] <ubotu> yolnizzle: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[12:25] <Jucato> ol_dude67: I didn't understand the question
[12:26] <ol_dude67> its ok a little off topic, but if you are going to build packages in linux it would seem you would get that in the actual install of kubuntu or ubuntu or whatever.
[12:27] <mmance> can someone tell me the limit for ext3 for the amount of files in a directory?
[12:27] <zorglu_> mmance: is there a limitation ?
[12:27] <mmance> I am sure there is, I just don't know what it is.
[12:27] <Jucato> ol_dude67: because Ubuntu, like Debian, Fedora/Red Hat, etc. are what you call "binary distros". they provide binary packages as the default means of installing things on your system. these packages are built and tested to work on those particular distros/systems. compiling is the exception, not the rule
[12:27] <zorglu_> ol_dude67: compiling from source is not considered the default behaviour
[12:28] <Pici> mmance: Wikipedia should have the answer, they have quite a bit of info on filesystem limit.
[12:28] <mmance> pici, nope, they did for ext2 but not for ext3
[12:28] <Pici> mmance: really? hrm.
[12:28] <yolnizzle> ol_dude67: have you tried the autopackage format [ www.autopackage.org/packages ]
[12:28] <Jucato> ol_dude67: unfortunately, one of the dominant myths surrounding Linux is that you absolutely need to compile everything
[12:28] <mmance> I have to have 180,000 files in a directory
[12:28] <mmance> anyone have anything close to that?
[12:29] <ol_dude67> just was wondering, like i have said before im a slack user by default.
[12:30] <ol_dude67> i just switched to kubuntu not long ago.sorry for the dumb questions.
[12:30] <Jucato> it's not dumb
[12:30] <yolnizzle> ol_dude67: its not a dumb question we are all learners here too
[12:31] <Jucato> it's a common misconception.. and you coming from slack, I'm not surprised why you asked :)
[12:31] <zorglu_> mmance: with only 180,000, you can write a test. if you want.
[12:31] <zorglu_> mmance: i looked at it and didnt find the answer
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> mmance- a quick look at Wikipedia seems to say that the total number of available inodes is equal to B/2^13, where B is the size of the partition in bytes
[12:32] <zorglu_> mmance: im would be highly surprised if it wasnt possible to do 180000 file/dir. on the other hand, im sure itwill be slow :)
[12:33] <mmance> well, I guess I will let you know, thought someone might know before I have to do it
[12:33] <mmance> I read that XFS has higher limits, if i really need to I can create a xfs partition for the project
[12:33] <Dragnslcr> mmance- so a 250 GB hard drive would have about 30 million inodes total
[12:34] <mmance> thats total files on disc though, is it not?
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[12:34] <mmance> not per directory
[12:34] <mmance> thats different
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> It doesn't matter, actually
[12:34] <zorglu_> mmance: naive question, what need that many file in a single dir ?
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> It isn't possible to have that many files on a disk anyway
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> Since a file always takes up at least one block
[12:35] <Dragnslcr> So in practice, there is no limit to the number of files you can have
[12:35]  * zorglu_ is installing hardy on virtualbox just to try the last dpkg-deb :))
[12:36] <mmance> zorglu, I have to download all these html pages, and then text process them into a single file
[12:36] <mmance> with awk
[12:36] <zorglu_> mmance: if you are the one downloading those pages, you can trivially make a 'fake' directory arch
[12:37] <mmance> arch?
[12:37] <zorglu_> mmance: processing directory with that many files are much slower
[12:37] <zorglu_> mmance: sorry architecture
[12:37] <mmance> I dont understand
[12:37] <zorglu_> mmance: like .com/.example/.www/blabla
[12:37] <Dragnslcr> mmance- then you don't need to worry
[12:37] <Dragnslcr> mmance- there's no way you'll have millions of files at a time
[12:37] <mmance> well, I have a compiled text file with a raw list of the files that I pump to wget with -i
[12:38] <mmance> no, only around 150-180,000
[12:38] <Dragnslcr> mmance- then the answer is no, you don't have to worry about a limit to the number of files you can have
[12:39] <mmance> I guess the only reason I ask is cause I already ran into command limits today with the command line and 3000 files in a dir
[12:39] <yolnizzle> jucato: each time i use the sudo apt-get command it returns with [Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' ]
[12:39] <mmance> you can't run cp or mv via commandline without donig things special
[12:40] <zorglu_> mmance: the issue is with the length of the command line which is 32kbyte
[12:40] <zorglu_> mmance: nothing to do with the fs  :)
[12:40] <mmance> i know, i wasn't corrulating the tech, just my thoughts
[12:40] <zorglu_> ok
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> this is when xargs comes in handy. :)
[12:41] <yolnizzle> each time i use the sudo apt-get command it returns with [Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' ]
[12:41] <Dragnslcr> Ooh, new kernel image this morning
[12:41] <mmance> well, either way, ill let you all know the outcome
[12:49] <LukeL> hello
[12:49] <snegoviK> hello people.... for some reason x-server stopped starting on boot. i tried the following: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove /  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm defaults. I also tried renaming the symbolic link so that x11-common starts before kdm. Finally i tried runnin #init 5. These dont do anything :/
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> snegoviK,  try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> ?
[12:50] <snegoviK> will do
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if kdm is just crashing on you. :)
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> can you run 'sudo kdm' ?
[12:50] <snegoviK> oh i m kdm now
[12:50] <snegoviK> i just have to do startx every boot
[12:51] <romunov> snegoviK: what error do you get?
[12:51] <romunov> i've been experiencing a similar problem with kdm - i have to startx on every boot
[12:51] <snegoviK> romunov: errors during boot?
[12:51] <romunov> yepp
[12:52] <romunov> sweet: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: kdm is broken or not fully installed
[12:52] <snegoviK> same here actually :]
[12:52] <romunov> i did apt-get install kde to see what happens
[12:52] <romunov> it will install "menu" package
[12:53] <snegoviK> hm now that you mention it i did remove loads of kde apps which i dont need
[12:53] <snegoviK> maybe i removed something vital by accident
[12:54] <yolnizzle> did you tamper with you display driver ? mine crashed when i tried to use a sis driver inplace of my vesa
[12:54] <snegoviK> nah. this started after i removed kde4
[12:54] <romunov> all i changed was install kde4 and then uninstalled it
[12:54] <romunov> ^_^
[12:54] <snegoviK> rofl
[12:54] <snegoviK> then i had to reinstall kde3 because kde4 removed loads of crap
[12:54] <romunov> hum, i suspect you're my evil twin brother
[12:55] <snegoviK> haha :]
[12:55] <romunov> did you have K3b (burning dvds and cds)?
[12:55] <snegoviK> i still do
[12:55] <snegoviK> i reinstalled kde3
[12:55] <yolnizzle> no
[12:55] <romunov> it uninstalled that as well, along the packages it had installed for kd4
[12:56] <romunov> snegoviK: what did you find wrong with kde4?
[12:56] <yolnizzle> sorry i still have k3b i just neva used it
[12:56] <snegoviK> romunov: kwrite/kate constantly crash on start
[12:56] <romunov> how about desktop icons? did they behave ok?
[12:56] <romunov> i kept losing the "wrap" around them
[12:56] <snegoviK> yea i think so
[12:56] <romunov> and moving the wrap on one side of the desktop moved its corresponding icon on the other end of the desktop
[12:57] <romunov> really weird
[12:57] <snegoviK> nah the only prob i had with kde4 is crashing
[12:57] <romunov> i'll give it a few more weeks before reinstalling
[12:57] <romunov> and i'll probably do a fresh install
[12:57] <JuJuBee> Is there a quic way to flush my routing table other than using sudo route del... commands?
[12:57] <snegoviK> ok i installed menu as you said, dpkg-reconfigure works now
[12:57] <snegoviK> i will reboot see how that goes
[12:57] <snegoviK> thnx a lot all
[12:58] <romunov> report back
[12:58] <snegoviK> sure
[12:58] <yolnizzle> does any one know the detailed [code lines ] for installing ms-dos on a kubuntu
[12:58] <SlimeyPete> yolnizzle: ms-dos? You mean in a virtual machine?
[12:59] <yolnizzle> yep
[12:59] <Lord_Drachenblut> yolnizzle: you could always use dosbox if you are trying to run old dos games
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> yeah, dosbox is easiest
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> !dosbox
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[12:59] <Jucato> !info dosbox
[12:59] <ubotu> dosbox (source: dosbox): A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.71-0.1 (gutsy), package size 658 kB, installed size 2096 kB
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> better.
[12:59] <Jucato> if you want package info, use !info <package name>
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> dosbox is a lot of fun
[13:00] <Lord_Drachenblut> yolnizzle: but if dosbox won't work for you and you need a virtual machine you could check out virtualbox
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> dosbox has played about every dos game ive tossed at it.
[13:00] <SlimeyPete> yeah, it's pretty-much perfect.
[13:01] <yolnizzle> hope dosbox doesnt need to be compiled
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> yolnizzle,  why would it.. its in the repos. :)
[13:01] <Lord_Drachenblut> So what are the thoughts on 8.04 so far?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Unless of course you want/need the absoulte latest version.
[13:02] <yolnizzle> my repos dont work !
[13:02] <yolnizzle> each time i use the sudo apt-get command it returns with [Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' ]
[13:03] <romunov> the servers arent up?
[13:03] <Lord_Drachenblut> romunov: I was just in the process of doing some updates so i don't think it's the servers
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> yolnizzle,  server may be down.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> or yur dns server may be confused.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> remove the us. from the lines in sources.list and try again?
[13:05] <yolnizzle> okay
[13:05] <dreamcoder> does anyone know where i can get a repositories list
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !repositories
[13:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[13:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !source-o-matic
[13:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[13:07] <LamerMan> hi everyone! i use konqueror + fish:// for secure file transfer. After i first entered my password for a remote host, it does not ask for the password anymore. Even if i delete the key from /home/.ssh/ , it doesn't ask for password. Is it kept somewhere in konqueror? how can i delete it?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. the kwallet perhaps?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas forget about fish://  and end up using sshfs
[13:09] <fabiano> hello
[13:09] <niall_> hi
[13:09] <jussi01> Does anyone know how to create styled arrows in krita?
[13:09] <niall_> is there a way to revert to just the packages that would be there in a clean install, without reinstalling :x
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> niall_,  not that i know of.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> You could find a list I guess. and start removing whats not in the list.
[13:12] <LamerMan> Dr_Willis, it's not kwallet, unfortunatelly
[13:12] <yolnizzle> niall you could try using open office to create it or try downloading open euclide from [autopackage.org/packages]
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> LamerMan,  no idea. ive never noticed it saving the passwords.. good luck.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> bbl .
[13:14] <yolnizzle> can any one remind me of how to edit my source list
[13:14] <Lord_Drachenblut> yolnizzle: /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:15] <guardian> hmm
[13:15] <romunov> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lis
[13:15] <guardian> i thought hardy alpha 4 would come with kde4 by default
[13:15] <romunov> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:15] <guardian> doesn't seem to be the case
[13:15] <guardian> did i miss something ?
[13:15] <Tobias_S> hi what is the channle for Swedish Kubuntu?
[13:15] <Jucato> !kdesu | romunov and yolnizzle
[13:15] <Jucato> hm...
[13:15] <Jucato> !ping
[13:15] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[13:15] <Jucato> hahah
[13:16] <Jucato> !kdesu
[13:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[13:16] <Jucato> there.. romunov & yolnizzle ^^^
[13:16] <Lord_Drachenblut> guardian: hardy is slated to be a LTS release so i think there holding off on kde 4 until 8.10 because of that
[13:16] <Jucato> !se | Tobias_S
[13:16] <guardian> oh
[13:16] <ubotu> Tobias_S: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[13:16] <guardian> i see
[13:16] <romunov> Jucato: interesting, i never knew that
[13:16] <romunov> althoug i usually use "sudo nano.."
[13:16] <Jucato> Lord_Drachenblut: no. guardian: no
[13:16] <niall_> ;/
[13:16] <niall_> i've totally broken my install
[13:17] <Jucato> Kubuntu Hardy will not be LTS, as decreed by Canonical. Kubuntu Hardy will come in 2 versions, one with KDE 3.5.8 (or 9) by default, and one with KDE 4.0.x
[13:18] <romunov> Jucato: what's the difference? :D
[13:18] <Jucato> romunov: of what?
[13:18] <Lord_Drachenblut> as decreed by the mighty canonical.... Sorry i don't keep up with what they say
[13:19] <Jucato> Lord_Drachenblut: been a hot issue since January :)
[13:19] <Jucato> er.. since Dec. iirc
[13:20] <yolnizzle> please where do i find my sources list for apt-get and how do  i edit it without having to delete it first
[13:20] <Lord_Drachenblut> Jucato: well glad to see it's not going to be lts then, i been to busy lately to keep up with that news lately, and that kde4.X.X will be a out the gate option
[13:20] <neville> What's the command to tell my computer to shutdown in 30 minutes?
[13:20] <yolnizzle> !apt-get
[13:20] <Jucato> yolnizzle: the GUI way: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager... once running. Adept menu -> Manage Repositories.
[13:20] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[13:21] <Jucato> yolnizzle: the text edit way: Alt+F2, "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[13:21] <romunov> Jucato: between sudo and kdesudo.. other than the "kde" part :)
[13:21] <Whitman> neville, sudo shutdown -h +30
[13:21] <Jucato> romunov: you didn't read?
[13:21] <yolnizzle> 10ks jucato
[13:22] <neville> Okay, thank you very much Whitman =]
[13:23] <romunov> Jucato: oops, sorry, missed the url
[13:25] <christophe_> Hi ! I've installed compiz and I can't stand that my windows stick to the screen border .. any ideas how to remove it ?
[13:25] <yolnizzle> you guy here have been very good to me today im really greatful especially jucato & Dr watts 10ks a bunch guys
[13:26] <mefisto_> I'm on (upgraded) gutsy, but I still have kdesu installed and kdesudo is not installed. Is it important to use kdesudo with gutsy or is kdesu the same?
[13:27] <kristjan_> !ipv6
[13:27] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[13:27] <Jucato> mefisto_: well, kdesudo has some added benefits over kdesu, but you don't absolutely need to. if/when you upgrade to hardy, it might be installed anyway
[13:30] <kristjan_> speaking of kdesudo - does anyone remeber then kubuntu 7.10 beta releases "kdesudo" application used user kde preferences? why did it change in final release?
[13:42] <maurilio> Olá pessoal... Boa tarde!
[13:43] <maurilio> Estou com problemas no meu Konqueror... Será que alguem poderia me ajudar?
[13:43] <stdin> !es
[13:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:43] <paulo> ola
[13:43] <paulo> alguem ai tem o kubuntu com kde4?
[13:44] <maurilio> eu digito audiocd: mas não aparece a pasta "mp3", aparece apenas Ogg
[13:44] <stdin> !pt | maurilio
[13:44] <ubotu> maurilio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:01] <maurilio> qual e o canal do kubuntu em portugues br
[14:02] <stdin> maurilio: #ubuntu-br
[14:04] <dperandones> buenas
[14:04] <dperandones> qeu tal?
[14:07] <snarkster> hello
[14:08] <snarkster> ok so I wasnt the smartest chap in the world, I installed kde4 and now netwrok manager doesnt work.
[14:12] <spiroo> Hi
[14:12] <OuZo> when i click on a image it opens with konquror's built in viewer. how can i cahnge it so that it opens with Gwenview? thanks
[14:14] <spiroo> I wanna ask, when I start Kubuntu instead of the professional good looking blue background with stripes (KDE 3.5), I got a bubble discusting looking background, it glitches and switch to the good one sometimes, is this a bug and can I fix it?
[14:17] <spiroo> anyone?
[14:24] <XubuntuNewbie> Hello everybody; I don't know if you can help me with this but I have just installed xubuntu on my machine and it all works fine except I do not get sound (or a sound icon) in the graphical interface. When running alsamixer in a command prompt shell it shows Soundblaster Live! as detected and working?.... I am a WIndows user primarily so not too knowledgeable about linux and how to set things up.....
[14:26] <Whitman> XubuntuNewbie, you'll be wanting #xubuntu
[14:27] <XubuntuNewbie> oh yeah my mistake. Told him I was running xubuntu - but I thought I was using KDE.... so he sent me to you guys... then I discover xubuntu runs xfce by standard as graphical shell so.... very sorry.
[14:34] <spiroo> This is the shit: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Koffice2-design-competition-MoritzZimmermann.PNG
[14:40] <FaiDillinGer> hi there what's up
[14:41] <BluesKaj> FaiDillinGer, depends on what you need :)
[14:42] <FaiDillinGer> i got a real problem. i got an external usb drivethat is always plugged in to my computer. its mounted in /media/ddext. the thing is that it is not mounted automaticcaly when i boot. (but the auto option is set in fstab) has anyone got an idea how i can get it mounted when kde starts ????
[14:44] <combinio> !rmvb
[14:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:45] <combinio> how to watch RMVB movies?
[14:45] <FaiDillinGer> maybe with vlc ?
[14:46] <combinio> FaiDillinGer: but it looks i have no codecs :/
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> I think mplayer will play them, but you may need the w32codecs
[14:47] <werner__> vlc has many codecs within ... make a try?
[14:47] <genii> Isn't rmvb a Real Player format?
[14:47] <werner__> www.fileformats.com or so ...
[14:47] <FaiDillinGer> yes genii
[14:47] <FaiDillinGer> combinio: i think vlc has lots of codecs embedded in it
[14:47] <combinio> so what kind of codecs should i install to be able to watch movies of that kind? :/
[14:48] <combinio> FaiDillinGer: crap!:( i'd like Kaffeine of mPlayer
[14:48] <combinio> hate VLC ://
[14:50] <FaiDillinGer> combinio:  ok
[14:52] <skar> which package do i install to enable 32 bit app support on amd64?
[14:53] <SlimeyPete> skar: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[14:56] <skar> SlimeyPete: i'm looking for a package which installes 32 bit compat libs, i don't need full 32 bit chroot support
[14:58] <SlimeyPete> oh right.
[14:58] <genii> skar: There is one called getlibs but it is unsupported
[15:00] <genii> skar: Some info on it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[15:00] <BluesKaj> skar, ia32libs
[15:00] <skar> genii: nope, i remember using 32 bit apps natively on 64 bit systems
[15:00] <skar> BluesKaj: yup that's it, thanks a lot to you all :)
[15:02] <skar> BluesKaj: hmm ia32libs doesn't exist in the repo package list? wonder if i need to add a extra repo to the sources?!?!
[15:03] <skar> BluesKaj: ok found it, stupid me :)
[15:03] <werner__> skar: and whats the solution?
[15:04] <skar> werner__: install the ia32-libs package, that's it, the loader will load these 32 bit libs for the 32 bit binaries we run :)
[15:04] <skar> werner__: i used to install 32bit vmware inside 64bit ubuntu like this
[15:04] <werner__> ah, ok, i see ... what else :)
[15:05] <skar> werner__: though xen, virtualbox are more to my taste these days
[15:05] <werner__> nuff said
[15:05] <werner__> thx
[15:09] <samar> i installed kubuntu now
[15:09] <samar> i cant start amarok
[15:13] <ibou__> i'd like to modify my shortcut keys on kmplayer. How to do that ?
[15:14] <kristjan_> how to get flash working inside konqueror?
[15:15] <kristjan_> (with proposed repo enabled; and working flashplugin installed)
[15:21] <ibou__> kristjan_: the new version of flash doesn't work with konqueror
[15:21] <kristjan_> ibou__: I was following the bug on launchpad and got the impression that it works if I enable "proposed" repo
[15:22] <kristjan_> ibou__: bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[15:22] <ibou__> kristjan_: oh ok
[15:41] <marx2k> Hey I have KDE4 installed on my system but the option disappeared from my session selector.  What do I do?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> marx2k, check your login menu for the kde4 option
[15:57] <Potus> BluesKaj?
[15:58] <the-erm> I wrote a simple script that will backup every 12 hours, the catch is it watches /dev/input/mouse1 for input, and if there is any movement it will push the backup back 3 hours.  In other words it backs up when I'm not at the computer.
[15:59] <armadill0> the-erm, that was a good idea
[15:59] <the-erm> Anyone know of a web page that explains how to add it to /etc/init.d/myscript
[15:59] <jeroenvrp> I am looking for a way to make sure the icons in the file-picker used by Gnome/GTK under KDE is using the KDE icons. With the gtk to qt engine all icons are changed, but not these icons?!
[16:00] <llutz> the-erm:  see /etc/init.d/readme and /etc/init.d/skeleton
[16:00] <marx2k> BluesKaj: Thats what I meant by it's not in there. the Session chooser in the login menu...
[16:00] <the-erm> llutz: I should have checked there to being with thanks.
[16:00] <marx2k> it seems Gnome is not in there either but I know I have Gnome installed on my system
[16:00] <marx2k> so only KDE 3.5 is in my session chooser for some reason
[16:01] <SlimeyPete> marx2k: you sure? if you installed the kubuntu-desktop package, gnomewill have been removed.
[16:01] <marx2k> SlimeyPete: I've not had that issue before. I was pretty sure KDE and Gnome co-exist
[16:02] <SlimeyPete> marx2k: hrm yeah I could be wrong actually, sorry
[16:02] <SlimeyPete> wonder where I got that idea from
[16:05] <mefisto_> marx2k: you can put a kde4.desktop file (or anything else) in /usr/share/xsessions directory and it will appear in the sessions menu
[16:12] <Webbmaster> hi
[16:12] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[16:12] <Webbmaster> why does the new update of kde4 packages break stuff?
[16:13] <stdin> because we're backporting 4.0.1 and it's not all uploaded yet
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> Because KDE4 is still under heavy development
[16:13] <ubuntu> hi
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> or that
[16:13] <ubuntu> how can i change my nickname?
[16:14] <stdin> /nick newname
[16:14] <SlimeyPete> type /nick followed by a name
[16:14] <ubuntu> thanks!
[16:14] <Webbmaster> sorry i wasn't clear
[16:14] <nyp4life> hey everybody
[16:14] <Webbmaster> its trying to remove stuff, like kde3 apps and mplayer
[16:14] <Webbmaster> stdin: so if i wait and try later it should work okay
[16:15] <stdin> Webbmaster: if you pastebin the output I can give you a more definite answer
[16:15] <Webbmaster> stdin: will do
[16:15] <nyp4life> i have a wifi issue.. every time i use a bittorrent client i get kicked off my wireless network and cant get back on unless i restart.. any dieas
[16:16] <Webbmaster> http://hpaste.org/5485
[16:16] <nyp4life> i tried lowering my global connections to 60 (someone suggested) but didn't work
[16:17] <Webbmaster> stdin: does that help?
[16:18] <stdin> Webbmaster: it does, I'll need to reupload kde4libs :p
[16:18] <Webbmaster> ah
[16:18] <Webbmaster> and once you have, it should work nicely
[16:22] <BluesKaj> nyp4life, have you configured the ports on the wireless gateway to work with the torrent client ports such as 6881 & 4444 in ktorrent ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> nyp4life, TCP ports
[16:23] <nyp4life> i changed the ports to 50055.. same as i did in winxp n it works fine, just doesn't keep me on fo long
[16:23] <nyp4life> i tried four different clients.. currently with utorrent and wine
[16:24] <Whitman> Ok, odd problem.  I'm trying to get a monitor to not go into standby after idle.  I've unticked the box in the monitor power management settings and even commented out 'Option "DPMS"' in xorg.conf (and restarted x of course) yet the monitor still goes into standby mode.
[16:24] <Whitman> And this is on kubuntu 7.10
[16:25] <BluesKaj> aha , utorrent is ok in wine for a while then it slows ...i tried that setupo too , not satisfactory in my experience.
[16:25] <nyp4life> so far utorrent has kept me on the network longest for some reason (~15 mins)
[16:26] <nyp4life> ktorrent and bittorrent (and i think bittornado was the other one) have kicked me off right away (~2mins)
[16:26]  * BluesKaj doesn't get it ...wireless is such a PITA 
[16:26]  * BluesKaj is gonna stay wired :)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> no lappies here so I guess no need
[16:28] <nyp4life> hmm.. wish i could run a wire down here
[16:29] <nyp4life> nobody else?? lol
[16:29] <nyp4life> wireless is my only option unfortunately
[16:29] <Lynoure> nyp4life: nobody what?
[16:30] <nyp4life> have any suggestions to keep my wireless network from kicking me off when i try to dl/ul torrents
[16:30] <nyp4life> no mattter what client i use i get kicked off
[16:30] <Lynoure> nyp4life: probably a matter of weird ap settings, then
[16:30] <nyp4life> can i fix this?
[16:31]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand the use of higher numbered ports 
[16:31] <nyp4life> well apparently port 6881 is blocked by some ISP's so its recommended to change ports to something over 50000
[16:31] <nyp4life> or so i hear..
[16:31] <Lynoure> nyp4life: really hard to tell without even knowing what your access point is, and more of an ap problem than kubuntu problem.
[16:32] <nyp4life> but it works fine in winxp..
[16:32] <nyp4life> i have a linksys wrt54gp2 router if that helps..
[16:32] <Lynoure> nyp4life: if it was blocked, it would just not work... you would not get kicked off your wireless (unless it has some weird weird configuration and our ISP wanted to punish you)
[16:32] <nyp4life> exactly.. so i dont no what the issue is
[16:32] <BluesKaj> 6881 is blocked on some euro torrent sites , like piratebay , which is being prosecuted as we speak
[16:33] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just ran the adept-updater, and when I saw the list of applications to be updated I was a bit surprised.. There were LOTS of applications marked to be uninstalled.. xchat, kontact, dolphin.. all marked to be removed.. Is there any explanation for this behaviour??
[16:33] <nyp4life> what settings do i need on the router?
[16:34] <Webbmaster> phoenix: have you got the kde4 repo in sources.list?
[16:34] <Lynoure> nyp4life: any normal settings should work fine... whatever your ISP tells you, normally
[16:34] <phoenixz> Webbmaster, yep, ever now and then I take a look at KDE4..
[16:34] <Webbmaster> phoenix: yeah, i think something is broked with the kde4 packages
[16:35] <Webbmaster> stdin seemed to konw what it was
[16:35] <nyp4life> yea i think my router is set up correctly if i can surf and chat just fine..
[16:35] <Webbmaster> if you wait before upgrading, it should get fixed
[16:35] <nyp4life> im new to linux btw lol just installed 3 days ago
[16:35] <Lynoure> nyp4life: what do your logs say about the disconnects?
[16:35] <nyp4life> where do i find the logs?
[16:36] <phoenixz> nyp4life, /var/log
[16:36] <Lynoure> nyp4life: they are under /var/log, daemon or syslog might be the most relevant
[16:36] <phoenixz> stdin, you know something about the KDE4 repo causing adept manager to remove a bunch of packages it should _not_ remove?
[16:37] <nyp4life> i have syslog, syslog.0, and syslog.1.gz
[16:37] <stdin> yeah, I've uploaded the fix, give it a while
[16:37] <nyp4life> which should i look at?
[16:37] <Lynoure> nyp4life: the one without numbers is the newest one
[16:37] <Lynoure> nyp4life: the bigger the number the older the log
[16:38] <coolbhavi> hello.. what default value line for a field to auto input the date in proper format in a table entry on Kexi?
[16:38] <coolbhavi> *what is*
[16:39] <llutz> anyone using tuxonice (former Suspend2) for hibernation with gutsy?
[16:40] <coolbhavi> hello.. what is the default value  for a field to auto input the date in proper format in a table entry on Kexi?
[16:41] <nyp4life> this is just a part of it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54865/
[16:41] <phoenixz> stdin, thanks!
[16:42] <Lynoure> nyp4life: what's your wlan card?
[16:43] <p> Hi...i'm trying to install swiftfox, in addept the package name ends with -i686, -pentium-m etc. i'm guessing this is the CPU architecture, but I don't know which one i need. Can anyone help me?
[16:43] <magli> hi
[16:44] <magli> hi to everybody
[16:44] <stdin> p: uname -m
[16:44] <magli> uname - m
[16:45] <Lynoure> nyp4life: static ip or dhcp?
[16:45] <Cavallo> why I have in adept all the time libmlt-data package for update ?? I have run update for about 10 time and this packege is still there to update it :( So adept update icon is all the time in systry :(
[16:46] <Lynoure> nyp4life: oh, dhcp, I can see...
[16:46] <marx2k> Hm.. can't seem to find my kde4.desktop file :(
[16:46] <marx2k> I wonder what I should do about that
[16:47] <Lynoure> nyp4life: copypaste your /etc/network/interfaces too
[16:47] <Lynoure> nyp4life: and results of  ifconfig
[16:48] <stdin> marx2k: it'd be in kdebase-workspace-data
[16:49] <Lynoure> nyp4life: I'm betting you have an additional interface listed, and it is called wmaster0. Seems to happen to some people, unsure still why.
[16:49] <jessie> hey people
[16:51] <nyp4life_> sorry got disconnected again
[16:52] <nyp4life_> heres a new log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54866/
[16:52] <nyp4life_> how do i get rid of this wmaster0?
[16:54] <lucifaint> Hi, has anyone experienced any problems with todays update?
[16:54] <mefisto_> marx2k: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[16:55] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: no idea yet, I'll have to look at you pastes first :)
[16:55] <lucifaint> There seems to be a dependency issue with k9copy, gtk-emacs and others.
[16:55] <nyp4life_> lol sorry Lynoure.. this is just getting so frustrating
[16:55] <Lynoure> nyp4life: copypaste your /etc/network/interfaces too, and the results your  ifconfig   (in case you missed this request)
[16:55] <mefisto_> marx2k: that last point is probably all you need to do
[16:56] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: and knowing what you wlan card is  (it can be found in output of lspci) could help too.
[16:57] <mefisto_> marx2k: I've never installed kde4, so I'm not sure
[16:57] <nyp4life_> interfaces:
[16:57] <nyp4life_> auto lo
[16:57] <nyp4life_> iface lo inet loopback
[16:58] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: ok, not defined there at least.
[16:59] <nyp4life_> wlan card: RTL8187L but here is output from lspci: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54867/
[17:00] <nyp4life_> and ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54868/
[17:00] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: thanks, I'll look at those
[17:00] <nyp4life_> thx Lynoure
[17:03] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: an usb adapter?
[17:03] <nyp4life_> yes.. came with my motherboard
[17:04] <Riddell> !paste
[17:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:06] <BluesKaj> nyp4life_, my son thanks you for the tip about the port 6881 blockage :)
[17:06] <vedavox> its the new kdelibs5 that depends on libgif4 and not libungif4g for somereason, so I am holing off the update
[17:07] <nyp4life_> ;)
[17:07] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: it's not very Linux friendly adapter, you might need to use ndiswrapper :/
[17:07] <nyp4life_> now if only i can get mine working :P
[17:07] <nyp4life_> and i get that from adept Lynoure?
[17:08] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: I don't do ndiswrapper stuff as a volunteer, but there are many that do, and ubotu tidbit can get you started
[17:08] <Lynoure> !ndiswrapper
[17:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:08] <nyp4life_> i have ndiswrapper common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 already installed
[17:09] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: you have 7.10, right?
[17:09] <nyp4life_> yes
[17:09] <nyp4life_> btw how do i make konversation open firefox instead of konqueror
[17:10] <stdin> nyp4life_: it uses the setting from System Setting -> Default Applications
[17:12] <nyp4life_> thx stdin
[17:12] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: could you still pastebin your  lsusb?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> or in konverstaion settings/configure konverstaion/general/use custom web browser /firefox '%u'
[17:12] <nyp4life_> Lynoure: would the rtl8180 instructions do for my rtl8187?
[17:13] <nyp4life_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54871/
[17:13] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: not sure, that's why I asked for that paste :)
[17:14] <nyp4life_> ahh
[17:15] <lucent> hello
[17:18] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: this looks like a solution: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista/
[17:19] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: but looks = I have not tried it (no USB net adapters here)
[17:20] <nyp4life_> hey anything beats gettin kicked off
[17:20] <nyp4life_> ill try and let u no
[17:20] <Pici> !help
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[17:21] <combinio> how to open floopy?
[17:21] <combinio> i mean - how to mount (?)
[17:21] <nalioth> fumanchu: please don't bring your bots in here.
[17:21] <stdin> !floppy | combinio
[17:21] <ubotu> combinio: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[17:22] <combinio> stdin: thx :))
[17:23] <n1tro> Hi people :) Some time ago I installced kubuntu to my computer but the sounds are extremely low. You guys happen to have any tips to fix that? Like perhaps recommend some drivers or something?
[17:25] <mneptok> n1tro: checked all the output levels in alsamixer?
[17:25] <n1tro> hmm.. just a sec
[17:26] <n1tro> You're not talking about KMix ?
[17:27] <mneptok> no, alsamixer
[17:27] <mneptok> open a terminal and type "alsamixer" (no quotes)\
[17:27] <n1tro> okay :D
[17:28] <n1tro> everything's 00
[17:28] <mneptok> that would tend to make things somewhat quiet, yes.
[17:28] <n1tro> but I can still hear something
[17:28] <n1tro> but very low still
[17:28] <BluesKaj> n1tro, make sure the slider ctrls are up to 71% or so
[17:29] <nyp4life_> Lynoure i downloaded drivers from realtek and i get errors in the first step of installation.....
[17:29] <nyp4life_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54877/
[17:29] <n1tro> it works now :D
[17:29] <BluesKaj> n1tro, use arrow keys to negotiate
[17:29] <n1tro> thanks guys
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ok good
[17:32] <n1tro> btw, i wouldn't want to mind you with more questions but because this is a great channel i was just wondering if it's possible to be on two different irc server with Konversation?
[17:32] <n1tro> i don't wanna leave this channel because of quakenet ^^
[17:33] <vedavox> n1tro: dunno about konverstaion, but try kvirc, it supports multiple servers easily
[17:33] <n1tro> oki :)
[17:34] <Jucato> n1tro: of course it's possible
[17:34] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: hmm, that does not really look like anything easily fixed, more like fault in the makedrv
[17:34] <n1tro> hmm.. quick reboot for irc
[17:34] <Jucato> n1tro: press F2 for the Server List and add it
[17:34] <nyp4life_> as in fault from realtek?
[17:35] <nyp4life_> its a good thing i live in a basement apt n have no windows to throw my computer out of...
[17:35] <nyp4life_> lol
[17:36] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: no, as in fault in the makefile for the drivers
[17:36] <Maxim000> can't set font size in firefox.
[17:36] <nyp4life_> something i can fix myself?
[17:37] <n1tro> hey dudes now that i'm in a row, how can i make all links open with firefox in kubuntu?
[17:38] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: maybe, if you have experience with makefiles and compiling. I won't be digging into it, not worth it even if it was my device... I'd just get a pci wlan card instead in that case, as they are pretty cheap, or grr at Realtek for messing up
[17:38] <nyp4life_> i see
[17:39] <nyp4life_> so until then.. no torrents for me.. back to xp for a week or so lol
[17:41] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: if torrents trigger it, it's probably because of high traffic, so setting maximum download speed could help
[17:44] <Maxim000> I set it (4 examle) 16, but it still 10 or 9 :(
[17:44] <nyp4life_> someone here suggested it was the peers so i lowered them from like 300 to 40.. i have to limit the dl speed too now? or should i do that INSTEAD of the global connections
[17:44] <Maxim000> ctrl++ & ctrl+- works nice
[17:45] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: I'd limit just the total download speed.
[17:45] <nyp4life_> k
[17:45] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: I wouldn't think the number of peers affect this.
[17:46] <nyp4life_> and im trying the drivers again and when i try exctracting the tar.gz i get errors in Ark
[17:47] <nyp4life_> can i do this from command line instead? would it make a difference?
[17:47] <Lynoure> nyp4life_: should not make a difference, but that's  tar -zxf filename   for you
[17:50] <Cavallo> why I have in adept all the time libmlt-data package for update ?? I have run update for about 10 time and this packege is still there to update it :( So adept update icon is all the time in systry :(
[17:51] <nyp4life_> yup didnt make a difference..
[17:52] <unagi> how do i completely remove a package with command line
[17:52] <nyp4life_> last chance.. im trying the download speed.. farewell if i get disconnected again.. thanks for all the help
[17:52] <Maxim000> unagi, apt-get remove package
[17:53] <nyp4life_> think 200kb is a good limit? dont wanna go TOO low
[17:54] <unagi> sigh
[17:54] <Cavallo> unagi: apt-get remove --purge package
[17:55] <mefisto_> Cavallo: have you tried to update in konsole? are there any error messages?
[17:57] <ibou__> i'd like to modify my shortcut keys on kmplayer. How to do that ?
[17:57] <Cavallo> mefisto_: if I make dist-upgarde I get this for this package:
[17:57] <Cavallo> The following packages have been kept back:
[17:57] <Cavallo>   libmlt-data
[17:58] <mefisto_> Cavallo: when you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"???
[17:58] <Cavallo> mefisto_: yes
[17:58] <Cavallo> and also for upgrade
[17:58] <Cavallo> ...
[17:59] <jussi01> Cavallo: that just means there is an issue with the package, and it will be released when its ready
[18:00] <Cavallo> jussi01: hmmm
[18:01] <mefisto_> what about (re)installing that package?
[18:02] <djdarkman>  hello, I come with a strange question, it looks like my laptop`s IDE controller is malfunctioning
[18:02] <djdarkman> and I don`t have the money to buy a new one, is it possible to use kubuntu from an external storage device trough usb2.0?
[18:02] <nyp4life_> ibou: open kmplayer and go to settings -> configure shortcuts
[18:02] <djdarkman> so is it possible to run ubuntu from an USB drive?
[18:02] <jussi01> djdarkman: yes
[18:03] <jussi01> !usb | djdarkman
[18:03] <ubotu> djdarkman: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:03] <jussi01> hmmm
[18:03] <jussi01> not quite
[18:04] <PhilippeP> Hi everybody ...
[18:04] <jussi01> djdarkman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:05] <PhilippeP> today's update wants to get rid of some Gnome packages ... is this normal ? reason ?
[18:06] <Cavallo> mefisto_: I have removed it. We will see what will happen :) If anything :P
[18:07] <Maxim000> how can I set font size in FF? I can set font, but not size from prefs. :( help.
[18:07] <vedavox> philippe, you updating kde4?  it seems to have libgif4 as a dependancy, not libungif4g like everything else
[18:08] <hemanathan> hi
[18:09] <batis610> is there a way to install IE in kubuntu to test how display looks like in IE while programming?
[18:09] <hemanathan> hi i need to know how to connect dial up internet using mobile through data cable
[18:09] <vedavox> batis610: you can using WINE, but its tricky,
[18:09] <PhilippeP> well kde4 is installed ... but I don't see the connection with mplayer  ... which the update want to flush
[18:09] <Maxim000> batis610, virtualbox with windows?
[18:10] <vedavox> PhilippeP: libgif4 conflicts with libungif4g
[18:10] <Maxim000> or qemu
[18:10] <PhilippeP> ok ... thanx ...
[18:11] <hemanathan> hi i need to know how to connect dial up internet using mobile through data cable
[18:11] <hemanathan> anyone help me ya
[18:12] <Maxim000> what phone?
[18:13] <mefisto_> batis610: ies4linux installs it for you http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[18:13] <jussi01> bleh
[18:14] <hemanathan> nokia 6233 ya
[18:14] <hemanathan> maxim000: nokia 6233 ya
[18:14] <llutz> hemanathan: check /var/log/messages after connecting the cable to the phone. it should be available as /dev/ttyACMx
[18:15] <jussi01> !info kmobiletools
[18:15] <ubotu> kmobiletools (source: kmobiletools): KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[18:15] <hemanathan> ok then what shall i do
[18:16] <jussi01> !portables
[18:16] <ubotu> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[18:16] <llutz> hemanathan: use kppp for dial-up internet
[18:16] <jussi01> hemanathan: ^
[18:17] <hemanathan> that's it nothing more than that but i did the same i got error
[18:19] <batis610> mefisto: is it working with gutsy?
[18:22] <kelvie_> aw crap.. so I just updated kde4
[18:22] <kelvie_> how do I go back to my old versions? :P
[18:22] <kelvie_> kind of sucks not having emacs
[18:23] <vedavox> kelvie, remove libgif4 (and the stuff it depends on) and then reinstall emacs
[18:24] <kelvie_> vedavox: ah thanks :P
[18:28] <kelvie_> oh I know.. I'll remove all of kde4 that depends on libgif with kde4 running
[18:28] <kelvie_> run emacs
[18:28] <kelvie_> then reinstall it all and remove emacs with it still running
[18:29] <dthacker> !version
[18:29] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[18:29] <pramod> i am getting loads of swing errors while i am compiling my java files...
[18:31] <pramod> help me with swing please
[18:34] <techbw> hi all.
[18:34] <pramod> i am not being able to compile files which use java libraries
[18:35] <techbw> is there a way to monitor authorised remote users when they are logged onto the system?
[18:36] <pramod> hmmmm ask the admin
[18:36] <techbw> which admin???
[18:36] <pramod> adm....
[18:40] <pramod> am going...
[18:40] <pramod> c ya all latr
[18:41] <techbw> is there anyone that is willing to help on the above?
[18:42] <aleksanteri> techbw, $(who)
[18:42] <aleksanteri> or just $(w)
[18:42] <techbw> have done that it only says who is connected and which session they are connected to but not what they are doing
[18:43] <techbw> eg user1   0: date:time:seconds:
[18:43] <XBehave> where are ndiswrapper drivers kept?
[18:43] <XBehave> and is ndiswrapper installed by default?
[18:44] <vedavox> ndiswrapper drivers are kept on the manufacturers website, not distributed by ubuntu
[18:44] <vedavox> and its not installed by default
[18:44] <aleksanteri> techbw, well you can use $(ps aux) to list the processes, it also lists which process is owned by which user
[18:45] <XBehave> but ive ive installed drivers through ndiswrapper, where are they
[18:45] <vedavox> techbw: enter the command 'w' in Konsole
[18:45] <aleksanteri> vedavox, "[20:42:52] <techbw> have done that it only says who is connected and which session they are connected to but not what they are doing"
[18:46] <vedavox> aleksanteri: sorry, just having a coffee while browsing this :P
[18:46] <techbw> a little more info displayed now....w in consol that is
[18:46] <techbw> $(ps aux) bash user command not found
[18:46] <aleksanteri> without the $()
[18:46]  * aleksanteri just uses $() to indicate a command :)
[18:47] <techbw> oh i got it
[18:47] <techbw> lol
[18:47] <techbw> just copied and pasted
[18:47] <techbw> lol
[18:47] <techbw> a hellofalot more info thanx
[18:47] <vedavox> techbw: if you want to monitor a single user, use top and sort by user
[18:48] <aleksanteri> top's good but it's kinda hard to figure out how to use
[18:48] <techbw> could u type eg of command to enter?
[18:49] <techbw> aleksanteri, do you have an easier meathod to do the task?
[18:49] <ubuntu> My account is no longer a sudo account. Is there a way I can edit the user account from the liveCD and make it a sudo account again?
[18:50] <vedavox> techbw : ps aux | grep <username>
[18:50] <techbw> thanx trying it now, the user is not currently connected to the machine, will try with my own account
[18:51] <nyp4life> !grub
[18:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:52] <techbw> another question that i got, does anyone know of a linux boot floppy that will allow you to boot from CD, my one laptop is ancient, and would like to load linux on it, but does not boot from cd as it uses usb CD ROM
[18:52] <batis610>  i try to install ies4linux in gutsy, and i got this message : http://pastebin.com/m3d1383c0
[18:54] <techbw> or is there another meathod i can use to install ubuntu onto the machine?
[18:54] <vedavox> aaah, KDE4 updates have been fixed :)
[18:55] <vedavox> techbw: can you boot from a USB drive?
[18:55] <techbw> laptop does not have that option nativly in bios.
[18:55] <n1tro> Hey I have a problem, my kubuntu doesn't recognize my mouses mouse4 and mouse5 button but thinks they're all middlemouse buttons. any idea how i could fix this?
[18:56] <kelvie_> yay.. so now I can have emacs and kde4 on the same computer? :P
[18:56] <bascule> is setting proposed updates gonna 'hardy' my new install?
[18:56] <bascule> i saw a lot of kde4 things there
[18:57] <PhilippeP> it was worth waiting .... the update does not want to uninstall gnome packages
[18:59] <vedavox> techbw, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy at the very end of the howto tells you what to do.
[18:59] <techbw> thx for the link
[19:00] <techbw> was at a site where someone else wanted the same thing, but they did not post what they did, to get thier machine working
[19:03] <vedavox> I haven't actually used a floppy for about 4 years
[19:03] <techbw> vedavox:  would this work for pcmcia cdrom as well ... on another machine i got win98 but if this will work on there to I would load ubuntu.
[19:03] <laslavic> Hey, what are the default groups that the first user is a part of?
[19:04] <vedavox> techbw: if you know the mountpoint of the cd will be, prob /dev/sda, but not sure about pcmcia
[19:06] <techbw> i would think it would need to load some drivers for the disk, maybe i should try put the cd in and see if it will boot, have never tried
[19:07] <gourdin> is the kde 4 update the real 4.0.1 or a recent svn version ?
[19:10] <dangb> I have the desktop cd (kubuntu), is it possible to mount an already existing partition to /home during the installation process?
[19:10] <pablo> Hi, I'm having trouble with my ubuntu
[19:10] <pablo> It hangs when booting with a message like "waiting for the root filesystem". What could be wrong?
[19:11] <pablo> dangh: It is possible, choose manual patitioning
[19:11] <techbw> dangb:  it is possible, but will have to google again, can't remember which file needs to be edited
[19:11] <n1tro> Hey, anybody know how my kubuntu would detect the special buttons of my mouse?
[19:12] <techbw> will need to google for it again
[19:12] <ThomasD> n1tro: is it logitech?
[19:12] <dangb> ok, thanks
[19:12] <techbw> dangb:  what file system you want to mount?
[19:12] <ThomasD> imouse
[19:12] <ThomasD> !mouse
[19:12] <n1tro> ThomasD:  yeah, mx518
[19:12] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[19:12] <ThomasD> !logitech
[19:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:12] <dangb> techbw: reiserfs
[19:13] <n1tro> thanks :P
[19:14] <techbw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68875
[19:15] <techbw> dangb: link above check itout...although it is for raid
[19:15] <dangb> techbw: thanks
[19:16] <techbw> k no problem
[19:16] <techbw> if you want it to mount during boot process you will need to edit fstab file
[19:17] <techbw> file located /etc/fstab
[19:19] <dangb> ok
[19:19] <techbw> dangb: add this to /etc/fstab dev/hdxx /home/your folder reiserfs rw,exe 0 0
[19:20] <dangb> techbw: thanks
[19:20] <techbw> xx is the hda1 hda2 hdb1 hdb2 etc
[19:21] <tinin> Does anyone use kdm-kde4 in kubuntu? Id' like to know if it is working
[19:21] <biopod> hi all, what to do if i fullishly installed the kde4 on top of kde3 that used to have compiz and i can only get kde4 with very weired screen colors and no kickoff ?
[19:24] <techbw> biopod: I am a noob, so if others seem to think i sound dumb so be it, but have you tried to remove kde4?
[19:26] <biopod> techbw:  actaully what I would like to achieve is a functional kde4.
[19:26] <techbw> try remove it, then re-install it.
[19:27] <hemanathan> how to install real player
[19:27] <flipstar> what you can do is rename your $HOME/.kde4 directory and log back in to your KDE 4 session. That'll put you back to the default settings.
[19:27] <techbw> have you also check that your repos are all enabled?
[19:27] <jussi01> !real | hemanathan
[19:27] <techbw> ther u go someone with a more knowlege
[19:27] <ubotu> hemanathan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:27] <techbw> :-)
[19:28] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: download it from the realplayer website
[19:28] <hemanathan> i don;t know how to install
[19:28] <hemanathan> slimey pete: i don;t know how to install
[19:28] <RMC> i do
[19:29] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: in a terminal, go to the right directory and type "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin"
[19:29] <RMC> does anyone know where to start proggraming
[19:29] <RMC> as in anygood websites
[19:29] <RMC> ?
[19:29] <SlimeyPete> what language?
[19:29] <hemanathan> slimey pete: thats all nothing more than that
[19:30] <RMC> java
[19:30] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: yeah, I think so
[19:30] <hemanathan> slimey pete: ok thank you
[19:30] <SlimeyPete> RMC: for java it's probably best to buy a book. There's lots of material online but most is aimed at people who an already program.
[19:30] <RMC> does anyone know what the most common language is to use and is it the easiest
[19:30] <RMC> ?
[19:31] <SlimeyPete> C or C++ are most common, Python or Ruby are easiest
[19:31] <RMC> thanks slimeypete
[19:33] <aleksanteri> tcl ftw
[19:33] <hemanathan> scorpking: hi i've downloaded d4x-2.5.7.1-1.i386.rpm i need to know the installation procedure
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> !rpm
[19:34] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[19:34] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: see if you can find it in the repos or find a .deb for it otherwise convert it to deb with alien
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: you know d4x is available via apt, right?
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: you can use Adept or apt-get to install it
[19:34] <SlimeyPete> !apt
[19:34] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:36] <hemanathan> ubotu: i've tar files also
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> !bot
[19:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> ubotu isn't a person :)
[19:36] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: you should use Adept.
[19:37] <hemanathan> i don't know how to use the same for installation
[19:37] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: you can find Adept in the K menu, it is already installed. It will allow you to install d4x and lots of other programs without downloading files from websites
[19:37] <hemanathan> slimeypete:i don't know how to use the same for installation
[19:37] <SlimeyPete> !adept
[19:37] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:38] <hemanathan> slimeypete:tat's only how
[19:38] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: I'm afraid I can't understand what you're saying
[19:40] <hemanathan> slimeypete: i'm new to linux so i need the step by step procedure to open in adept packag manager
[19:41] <SlimeyPete> hemanathan: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[19:41] <SlimeyPete> it tells you how open adept and use it to install things
[19:41] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: your internet working fine today?
[19:43] <hemanathan> scorpking: no its all same 40 kbps only
[19:43] <ScorpKing> RMC: you still around?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: i mean in konqueror
[19:44] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: you won't get it faster with grps btw
[19:45] <hemanathan> scorpking: here in my village i have only gprs not even edge
[19:45] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: then you're stuck on 40kbps
[19:46] <hemanathan> scorpking: yes is there any way to increase the spped
[19:46] <hemanathan> scorpking: yes is there any way to increase the speed
[19:46] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: no
[19:46] <hemanathan> scorpking: i want to install download manager can you guide me
[19:47] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: use kget
[19:47] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: type - sudo apt-get install kget - in konsole
[19:48] <freakyy> hi all. where is the launch feedback setting in the kde control center for disabling the bouncing cursor when running programs?
[19:48] <ScorpKing> freakyy: yes. in kcontrol
[19:48] <freakyy> wherE?
[19:49] <freakyy> i can't find it
[19:49] <freakyy> ok found it
[19:49] <freakyy> thank you
[19:49] <freakyy> :D
[19:49] <ScorpKing> :) yw
[19:51] <hemanathan> scorpking: i get error list of sources could not be found
[19:53] <ScorpKing> hemanathan: run sudo apt-get update. is there an error again?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> hemanathan, have edited your sources.list at all since installing kubuntu ?
[19:54] <hemanathan> blueskaj: no
[19:54] <BluesKaj> hemanathan,Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage  Repositories. Click the Kubuntu software tab,check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[19:59] <JoeyJoeJo> What's the program called that sits in KDE's tray in ubuntu and tells you all about your network interfaces?
[19:59] <ScorpKing> JoeyJoeJo: knetworkmanager
[19:59] <JoeyJoeJo> makes sense.. thanks
[20:01] <freakyy> how can i automatically generate a touchpad section in xorg.conf?
[20:03] <sub[t]rnl> !info ksynaptics |freakyy
[20:03] <ubotu> freakyy: ksynaptics (source: ksynaptics): Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 228 kB, installed size 1156 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[20:03] <freakyy> yea for that i need to add a touchpad config section in xorg.conf
[20:03] <freakyy> but i dont know how to create one because there is none
[20:03] <freakyy> touchpad is working though
[20:04] <sub[t]rnl> freakyy➜ that application will add the section to your xorg.conf
[20:05] <ScorpKing> RMC: http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/
[20:05] <ijacek> !cz
[20:05] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[20:06] <freakyy> when i try to start it it says: shared memory is not accessible. please add option SHMConfig "on" in the touchpad section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:06] <freakyy> but there is no touchpad section
[20:06] <freakyy> that's why im asking
[20:07] <sub[t]rnl> then just add it by hand
[20:07] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should add it as well
[20:07] <BluesKaj> freakyy, maybe this will help : http://www.linux.com/feature/118108
[20:09] <RMC> does everyone come on here everyday
[20:10] <ScorpKing> RMC: got that link?
[20:11] <RMC> what link scorpking
[20:11] <RMC> ?
[20:11] <ScorpKing> RMC: http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/
[20:11] <RMC> thanks mate what is it
[20:11] <RMC> oh i know thanks
[20:12] <ScorpKing> RMC: thingking in java book :)
[20:12] <RMC> kk
[20:12] <ScorpKing> hope it helps ;)
[20:12] <RMC> cheers
[20:12] <RMC> r u on here everyday
[20:12] <ScorpKing> almost everyday this time
[20:13] <RMC> kool
[20:13] <voicu> how do i disable the network manager? it messes up my settings
[20:14] <jussi01> voicu: right click it, then click quit! ;)
[20:14] <voicu> ... i tried that
[20:14] <ScorpKing> voicu: don't run it
[20:14] <voicu> it starts anyway when i restart
[20:14] <voicu> wtf, it runs by itself
[20:14] <ScorpKing> voicu: tell it not to start when you quit it
[20:14] <voicu> and i deleted it and some messages still appear when i restart
[20:17] <freakyy> how can i find out what my touchpad's device is? i mean /dev/psaux seems to be the default but ... when i try to start ksynaptic it still tells me to add the SHMConfig setting even it is in the touchpad section
[20:18] <pinepain> hi all, how to set konqueror as a default file manager, pls
[20:18] <RMC> who else here laerns python
[20:18] <RMC> ???
[20:18] <pinepain> me
[20:18] <jpatrick> !ot | RMC
[20:18] <ubotu> RMC: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[20:18] <ScorpKing> !dolphin | pinepain
[20:18] <ubotu> pinepain: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[20:19] <pinepain> yeah, it very nice, but i need to do this on remote pc
[20:19] <akiva> Hi All!
[20:19] <pinepain> so gui method doesn't feets me
[20:19] <akiva> I'm need some newbie help
[20:19] <RMC> and me please
[20:19] <ScorpKing> !ask | akiva
[20:19] <blizzzek> gn8
[20:19] <ubotu> akiva: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:20] <ubuntu> hi
[20:20] <akiva> I want a media player hat can handle collection of mms:// songs
[20:20] <jussi01> akiva: amarok should be able to do that
[20:20] <ScorpKing> anyone here knows turbocash?
[20:21] <akiva> jussi01 - amarok's collection is local only AFAIK
[20:21] <freakyy> what is the standard device for touchpads?
[20:21] <etx> hola
[20:21] <etx> hello
[20:22] <jussi01> !es | etx
[20:22] <ubotu> etx: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:23] <ubuntu> i hve nokia CDMA modem ,  i disconnected after some time
[20:24] <akiva> does anyone know a media player the supports remote mms:// songs collectioning?
[20:24] <jussi01> !repeat
[20:24] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:25] <Ramla> collectioning? you mean download the file for offline listening?
[20:26] <akiva> I mean making a local collection of remote songs
[20:26] <pinepain> so anybody, how to set konqueror as a default file manager
[20:27] <pinepain> it must be some config
[20:27] <Ramla> akiva: i'm not sure what you mean, but here's something: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer#Ripping
[20:28] <ubuntu> can any1 tell me .what the needed setting for nokia cdma modem in kppp
[20:28] <akiva> 10x Ramla, I'll look into it
[20:28] <ScorpKing> !dolphin > pinepain read this please
[20:28] <sub[t]rnl> pinepain➜ see above, ubotu addressed you
[20:29] <pinepain> sub[t]rnl: i need to do this in shell, not in gui
[20:30] <akiva> Ramla, that not what I need. it plays remote songs. I want a collection manager (a searchable one) to manage all my remote songs
[20:30] <Ramla> Sorry, haven't heard of that kind of thing
[20:30] <Aranel> how can I find KDE Menu files ? I need to add a new shortcut to my menu.
[20:31] <akiva> right click your menu and enter menu editor
[20:33] <Tecumseh> good evening
[20:33] <akiva> good evening 2u2
[20:33] <Tecumseh> small question, where is the place kmail stores it's mail?
[20:33] <Tecumseh> I have got a new harddrive and also a new install, want to restore the data
[20:34] <Tecumseh> I have made a copy of the /home partition of the old harddrive
[20:34] <SSJ_GZ> Tecumseh: ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/
[20:34] <Tecumseh> thx
[20:34] <akiva> ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
[20:34] <SSJ_GZ> Tecumseh: There may be some important stuff in ~/.kde/share/config/kmail/, but probably no actual e-mails.
[20:36] <freakyy> how can i find out the device of my touchpad?
[20:36] <akiva> freakyy - is it usb connected?
[20:37] <freakyy> no
[20:37] <freakyy> in my laptop
[20:37] <akiva> run lscpi
[20:37] <akiva> and find  out it's pci id
[20:37] <Tecumseh> SSJ_GZ: mail restored. I'll have to recreate the account though. Those settings will be in ~/.kde/share/config
[20:37] <SSJ_GZ> cool
[20:38] <Tecumseh> next problem, I had azureus running on the previous install but now it keeps crashing
[20:38] <Tecumseh> any chance I can get it back?
[20:39] <freakyy> there is no synaptics touchpad listed
[20:39] <freakyy> but i can use it
[20:39] <freakyy> i just cant get the driver to work
[20:39] <freakyy> because of the SHMConfig in the xorg.conf - which i added
[20:39] <freakyy> - i added the whole touchpad section
[20:39] <freakyy> but it just doesnt want to work
[20:39] <jussi01> !enter
[20:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:40] <freakyy> ok
[20:40] <MLW> is it possible to install keyloggers on a linux system ? i just wanna know to know if there might be one on my system
[20:40] <freakyy> :(
[20:41] <Tecumseh> MLW: hard but indeed possible
[20:41] <MLW> not by regular users?
[20:41] <MLW> were talking experts?
[20:41] <JoshOvki> MLW there might be one, but for it to install they would need a password for sudo
[20:41] <MLW> can i scan?
[20:41] <morphine> how do I add a user to an existing group?
[20:41] <morphine> on the command line
[20:41] <freakyy> i do: adduser <user> <group>
[20:42] <JoshOvki> sudo  first
[20:42] <morphine> sorry, an existing user to an existing group
[20:42] <freakyy> as root
[20:42] <freakyy> ;D
[20:42] <jussi01> freakyy: its the input device section
[20:42] <morphine> ah, sweet
[20:42] <freakyy> morphine: yea, an existing user to an existing group: sudo adduser <user> <group>
[20:42] <jussi01> freakyy: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[20:42] <morphine> thanks
[20:42] <freakyy> jussi01: thank you
[20:42] <Tecumseh> JoshOvki: that can be sircumvented by a script that helps you install something, installing the keylogger on the side. For instance Automatix of Envy could do such things (don't say they do)
[20:42] <morphine> now I can administer my website :)
[20:43] <JoshOvki> Tecumseh: true
[20:44] <freakyy> jussi01: i have it like that. ksynaptics still tells me there wasnt an SHMConfig "on" in the touchpad section but there really is. the touchpad also is working but scrolling f.e. doesnt work without the driver it seems.
[20:45] <jussi01> freakyy: have you tried restarting x ?
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> have you restarted x since changing your xorg.conf
[20:45] <freakyy> yea
[20:45] <freakyy> after restart it still tells me the same
[20:46] <freakyy> ill restart again, brb.
[20:46] <jeisma> Could someoen walk me through installing a windows computer game through wine?
[20:46] <jeisma> I Just installed wine
[20:46] <jussi01> jeisma: which game?
[20:46] <jeisma> starcraft
[20:46] <jeisma> woot
[20:46] <ahmos> !frostwire
[20:46] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[20:47] <jeisma> ???
[20:47] <jeisma> jussi01 starcraft
[20:47] <freakyy> still the same
[20:47] <freakyy> after restarting X
[20:47] <freakyy> :(
[20:47] <freakyy> any ideas?
[20:47] <jussi01> jeisma: wine setup_file_here.exe ???
[20:48] <jeisma> jussi01 where do i do that? in the terminal?
[20:48] <freakyy> when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it also doesnt ask me anything about the touchpad
[20:49] <jussi01> jeisma: yeah
[20:49] <jussi01> jeisma: you may also be able to right lick it and install with wine
[20:50] <jussi01> s/lick/click :P
[20:50] <jeisma> jussi01 so how about when i want to play the game? what do i do?
[20:51] <enzo>  i'd like to modify /etc/resolv.conf, but it's said in this file to not edit directly, so how can i modify it ?
[20:51] <jussi01> jeisma: it may put an icon in the menu under wine, but not sure
[20:53] <TeraByte> Hi ppl, i have a doubt here... My ntfs disc dont show in /dev and i dont find this partition or disk in my system... i type fdisk -l and show only 1 of my disk and the partitions.... in other distro (backtrack) show all... anyone know what my problem and how can i fix this? ps.: sorry my bad english, im brazilian...
[20:53] <ahmos> !frostwire
[20:53] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[20:53] <jussi01> !msgthebot | ahmos
[20:53] <ubotu> ahmos: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:54] <jussi01> TeraByte: not sure about your issue, but you can always try the brazilian channel as well :)
[20:54] <jussi01> !br | TeraByte
[20:54] <ubotu> TeraByte: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:54] <TeraByte> oh jussi01 ty, i will ask there...
[20:55] <jussi01> TeraByte: :)
[20:56] <jeisma> Can anyone explain why every time I try and click a drop down menu on kubuntu
[20:56] <jeisma> it starts flashing
[20:56] <jeisma> and slows down before opening up
[20:56] <jeisma> is that an effect tha tcan't be handled on my laptop that i need to turn off?
[20:58] <braiam> Hello there
[20:59] <braiam> does anybody know how to solve this? when I copy files to any ntfs partition, konqueror says me that "could not change permissions for (filename)". The file is copied, but it is triggering that error
[21:05] <hyper_ch> hiho, I wonder if I use a keyfile for dm_crypt/luks is there something I should worry about? minimal filesize or something?
[21:18] <val0> have any of you ever installed Eprints3???
[21:19] <Tecumseh> I'm having a problem with a simple usb camera (my son's camera). When connected it won't let me download images, just browse the content of the camera. This is the lsusb line that lists the device: "Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0553:0202 STMicroelectronics Imaging Division (VLSI Vision) Aiptek PenCam 1" It did work in Feisty, why doesn't it work in Gutsy and how to fix that?
[21:22] <gorongoro> hola
[21:23] <jussi01> !es | gorongoro
[21:23] <ubotu> gorongoro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:23] <jussi01> Tecumseh: can you not browse to where the images are? then just copy them ?
[21:24] <jeisma> how do i see how much ram is being used and how much space on the drive is being taken up>?
[21:24] <gorongoro> hola alguien me puede ayudar con cabletv 1.3.9??
[21:24] <jussi01> gorongoro: you need to join the #kubuntu-es channel, only english in here please
[21:25] <gorongoro> ok
[21:25] <jussi01> jeisma: type: free into the terminal
[21:25] <ahmos> Hi everybody,I've a small problem..when i start to download a program..kate is opened automatically and I've to save the file from kate,,anyhelp plz?
[21:26] <jussi01> ahmos: right click and save link as ?
[21:27] <ahmos> it seems working but ,is there another way to do this auto.?
[21:27] <Tecumseh> jussi01: no, I can browse to the location but I get an error when copying (Unknown error, Error reading from the port)
[21:30] <ubuntu> hi plz help, my hard drive just blew up and now im trying to setup an os on my 250 but i want to delete files from it using the live cd and it wont let me
[21:30] <val0> ubuntu: you don't need to delete files with live cd
[21:30] <ubuntu> but i need to to make space for the new os
[21:30] <val0> ubuntu: when you set up your partition info you can reformat the drive
[21:31] <ubuntu> i dont want to reformat, i have to much important data on that drive
[21:31] <val0> ubuntu: but you want to delete the files?
[21:31] <JoshOvki> ubuntu have you made a backup on all the files? because things do go wrong
[21:31] <ubuntu> i want to delete a 40gb folder and create a partition over it using partition magic
[21:34] <val0> ubuntu: /set theme jokx
[21:34] <val0> ubuntu: ignore that
[21:34] <enry> goodnight!
[21:35] <ubuntu> come on guys please i just want admin rights using a live cd to delete some files
[21:36] <fredoslack> Esxpro hou hou
[21:36] <ubuntu> i should jus go to my ubuntu live disk and run sudo nautilus
[21:36] <fredoslack> are you here ?
[21:37] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: gksudo nautilus
[21:37] <ubuntu> i am in kubuntu
[21:37] <ScorpKing> ubuntu: kdesudo konqueror then
[21:38] <ubuntu> bash: kdesudo: command not found
[21:38] <ScorpKing> kdesu ?
[21:39] <ubuntu> thank u
[21:41] <hillkorn> hi
[21:41] <Tecumseh> jussi01: I have found a thread on the ubuntu-forums that describes my problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20771 The webcam does have the STV0680 chip
[21:41] <Tecumseh> sadly no sollution is found there
[21:43] <jussi01> :(
[21:46] <SmokeIT> I just tried to play a movie with kaffeine and it said that the audio divice is busy
[21:47] <SmokeIT> what should i do to fix it
[21:47] <unagi> sudo /etc/init.d/alsautils restart SmokeIT
[21:47] <SmokeIT> k thx
[21:47] <unagi> otherwise restart
[21:49] <Tecumseh> jussi01: is a tail of /var/log/messages handy to troubleshoot? Have it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54921/
[21:57] <jeisma> I just downloaded a tar.gz file that contains a new sytle for kopete, how do i chnage kopete?
[21:59] <jeisma> how do you untar files?
[21:59] <freakyy> tar xvzf <file>
[21:59] <jussi01> !tar
[21:59] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[22:04] <Negatratoron> Hi-hi, and do y'all have time to work on a problem with Kubuntu crashing?
[22:05] <Negatratoron> In other words, I have a problem with kubuntu crashing, and I have some raw screen output from various crashes, but I don't know what any of it means
[22:05] <Negatratoron> Is anyone available?
[22:06] <unagi> kubuntu never crashes
[22:06] <unagi> you're doing something wrong
[22:06] <jussi01> Negatratoron: it would be helpful if you pastebinned what you have
[22:06] <unagi> obviously im kidding
[22:07] <jussi01> unagi: thats not helpful
[22:07] <Negatratoron> yeah
[22:07] <Arwen> Negatratoron, images please.
[22:07] <Negatratoron> Images?
[22:07] <christoph> hallo
[22:08] <jussi01> Negatratoron: pictures or pastes of the problem
[22:08] <jussi01> !hi | christoph
[22:08] <ubotu> christoph: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:08] <Negatratoron> I'll type it all up on pastebin
[22:08] <Negatratoron> Thank you
[22:10] <christoph> my first time i'm with an ubuntu PC online ^^
[22:12] <freakyy> hi all. what is a good groupware server?
[22:12] <freakyy> oops wanted to post this in #ubuntu
[22:20] <MarcC> where's the Hardy artwork at?
[22:22] <MarcC> anybody have a link to the Hardy wallpaper?
[22:25] <Negatratoron> http://pastebin.com/d74174de9
[22:25] <Negatratoron> yep
[22:25] <Jucato> MarcC: http://www.vladstudio.com/wallpaper/?288
[22:26]  * MarcC whistles
[22:26] <MarcC> ok, thanks Jucato
[22:26] <Negatratoron> I am leaning towards the first bit about the kernel panic as the source of the problem...
[22:27] <Negatratoron> I'm sure that the freezes are not a hardware problem, because Windows XP runs fine and dandy
[22:28] <Negatratoron> The computer just stops responding to everything, including any and all keyboard and mouse input
[22:28] <Negatratoron> If there is a sound playing, it starts looping the most recent half second or so
[22:29] <JoshOvki> Negatratoron : is it on the same harddrive as the XP?
[22:29] <Negatratoron> no
[22:29] <JoshOvki> could be a failing drive, does it click at all?
[22:29] <Negatratoron> nope
[22:30] <JoshOvki> no change in noise as it happens (apart from the music)
[22:30] <Negatratoron> What?
[22:30] <JoshOvki> The computer doesnt make any unusual noises as it crashes?
[22:30] <Negatratoron> no, it doesn't
[22:31] <JoshOvki> hmmm. not sure then sorry
[22:31] <Negatratoron> Thank you anyway
[22:31] <Negatratoron> I'm just kind of lost :)
[22:36] <ScorpKing> Negatratoron: it should say why you get a kernel panic
[22:36] <Negatratoron> Where?
[22:37] <Negatratoron> If you mean by the kernel panic message, I could try to get the computer to freeze and show that message again...
[22:37] <e`DrAvEn> does kubuntu gutsy have a RT kernel by default?
[22:37] <Negatratoron> Do you know if there is a log file somewhere that would have this stuff?
[22:37] <ScorpKing> yeah. there's usually some usefull msg before you get a kernel panic
[22:38] <ScorpKing> Negatratoron: all logs are in /var/log/
[22:38] <Negatratoron> Oh, I forgot to type a bit into the pastebin
[22:39] <Negatratoron> Oh, no I didn't
[22:39] <jussi01> e`DrAvEn: yes, just sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[22:40] <e`DrAvEn> I tried and it didn't find the package
[22:40] <jussi01> e`DrAvEn: you need to have multiverse I think
[22:40] <cpk1> I have a question, trying to boot from a 2.6.24 kernel I got from git and the entries for where to boot from are the same in grub but for some reason the 2.6.24 kernel says it cant find hd0,0 why is this?
[22:42] <e`DrAvEn> jussi01: thanx got it :-)
[22:42] <jeisma> i started up a game that wont go away
[22:43] <jeisma> how do i kill it?
[22:43] <jeisma> and how do i turn off mouseover tooltip on the bar at the bottom
[22:44] <sub[t]rnl> jeisma➜ right click on the panel, configure panel, appearance.
[22:44] <sub[t]rnl> try killing the game with 	killall processname
[22:45] <adrock358> Anyone know how to get a printer working that is not supported with linux?
[22:45] <adrock358> this is kind of ridiculous.  it must be an old print/fax/scan
[22:47] <sme> sm
[22:48] <sme> I just formated my dell dimension and i installed linux onto it but i want to put windows back n with a cd which is not from dell is that possible to do ?
[22:49] <sme> i am just helping somebody else i always use ubuntu
[22:50] <sub[t]rnl> sme➜ hard to tell with another manufacturer install cds.  Best way to find out is to try.
[22:52] <sme> when i run windows install program in the begining of the installation it says that my harddrive is just 900 mb but the accual sixe is 146 Gb
[22:52] <sub[t]rnl> sounds like its trying to install on the wrong partition?
[22:53] <sme> The computer is formated with kubuntu allready and i selected to use the whole hd when i installed kubuntu
[22:53] <sub[t]rnl> ask in #windows
[22:54] <kkathman> what does it mean when and update says "Failed to write commit log" ?
[22:54] <ScorpKing> maybe your disk is full? ;)
[22:55] <kkathman> not a chance I have like 500gb and only using 20%
[22:55] <kkathman> bbiam
[22:59] <cpk1> !easysource
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <e`DrAvEn> how would i set up kubuntu to let me select from a kernel at boot?
[23:00] <e`DrAvEn> er .. select a kernel
[23:13] <venik> can anyone help me print from a WINDOWS machine via the network from a WINDOWS (XP) machine?
[23:13] <venik> I have an HP parallel printer on a Kubuntu machine
[23:13] <hydrogen> WINDOWS?
[23:13] <hydrogen> nope!
[23:13] <venik> and I want to print to it from Windows
[23:13]  * hydrogen wanders off
[23:14] <crweb> venik: you would need ipp/cups drivers for windows probably
[23:14] <crweb> or setup samba printer sharing on kubuntu
[23:14] <venik> how do I do that?
[23:15] <hola1> sameone know pppoe
[23:15] <venik> Windows does not seem to find this printer on the network when it browses for network printers
[23:15] <crweb> sudo apt-get install samba
[23:15] <crweb> venik: thats because it is searching for Windows shared printers via Windows File Sharing
[23:15] <crweb> you would have to setup kubuntu for windows file sharing with samba
[23:16] <venik> Adept says that SAMBA is installed
[23:17] <filo1234> hi to all i have a problem with kbluetooth, with my telephonei cannot send files on pc
[23:18] <crweb> venik: http://www.petersblog.org/node/726  maybe this will help
[23:18] <venik> thanks-- that seems relevant, and possibly even helpful
[23:19] <crweb> venik: http://my.opera.com/albuemil/blog/2007/01/12/server-file-and-printer-sharing-with-w
[23:19] <crweb> venik: that one is even newer
[23:19] <crweb> (last month)
[23:19] <crweb> it is muc more in depth and is for setting up users and stuf
[23:20] <venik> thanks-- I am reading it
[23:23] <venik> I was hoping to find some GUI application for setting things up, rather than editing a long conf file... ;-(
[23:24] <shinda> hey guys, recently I've found my computer to complete stand stills, to the point where everything is frozen and I can't ssh (computer times out off of the network after a bit also) and no response from any devices ie mouse/ keyboard, anyone know if I can find or trace what might be triggering this to happen?
[23:29] <ScorpKing> shinda: open konsole and type free .what does it say on the swap line?
[23:30] <axel_> Hello! I've got a problem with Kile. When I try to compile a document with citations I get a warning saying that there was no .nls-file. Can anybody help me cofiguring Kile?
[23:34] <filo1234> hi to all i have a problem with kbluetooth, with my telephonei cannot send files on pc
[23:34] <ScorpKing> shinda: it sounds like your swap is turned off.
[23:35] <hola1> filo1234: have you time to answer to my question in ubuntu.it?
[23:39] <shinda> sorry i was just in here a minute ago, talking about random system halts, anyways it happened again, someone mentioned free in konsole,
[23:39] <shinda> I get for swap: Swap:      1502036          0    1502036
[23:40] <ScorpKing> shinda: oh ok. swap is on then.
[23:42] <ScorpKing> shinda: does it stops working after a while of being logged in?
[23:43] <shinda> ScorpKing, it differs last time it halted was after less then 30 mins, other times longer, like maybe a day
[23:44] <filo1234> hola1: maybe come on
[23:44] <ScorpKing> shinda: weird. anything in the logs? maybe do a ram test
[23:44] <shinda> ScorpKing, any idea which log in particular I should be looking at
[23:44] <ScorpKing> no idea
[23:45] <ScorpKing> error messeges or something that doesn't look right
[23:46] <hola1> filo1234: are you in .it?
[23:47] <filo1234> yes
[23:47] <shinda> ScorpKing, nothing that I could find so far, got any advice on how to do a ram test?
[23:48] <ScorpKing> shinda: the livecd or the last grub entry. it's usually a lack of memory that cause that as far as i know
[23:49] <shinda> Thanks, I'll give it a try
[23:49] <venik> can't get SAMBA to run, although it is installed
[23:49] <jessie> venik: how are you trying to get it to run?
[23:50] <venik> smbclient -L localhost
[23:50] <venik> to check it
[23:50] <venik> and it says it is not running
[23:50] <jessie> ummm..... "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"?
[23:50] <venik> it says also that the command samba is not found
[23:51] <venik> progress-- it started, but:
[23:51] <venik> udi@udi-desktop:~$ smbclient -L localhost
[23:51] <venik> Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[23:51] <jessie> k, well... i dont know. hm... but i have to go now. you sure you have it insatlled? ie, "sudo apt-get install samba"?
[23:51] <venik> I use Adept, and it says Samba is installed
[23:52] <venik> also after I typed your command it started
[23:52] <jessie> k, well i need to go now
[23:52] <jessie> bye
[23:52] <venik> ok-- thanks