[00:26] <WeedGrinch> Hello
[00:27] <no0tic> WeedGrinch, hi
[00:27] <WeedGrinch> I just created #ubuntu-modding, It will be a channel about personalizing ubuntu, help with themes, desktop effects, and anything else that has to do with personalizing/modding ubuntu
[00:28] <WeedGrinch> I was wondering if it was ok, that I did this, and I was wondering what the policies are for running an #ubuntu-* channel
[00:32] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: what do you plan to offer in #ubuntu-modding ?
[00:32] <WeedGrinch> Help, and talk about Modding/Personalizing Ubuntu
[00:33] <nalioth> #ubuntu offers help now.  :)
[00:33] <WeedGrinch> I know, but this is specific help.
[00:34] <WeedGrinch> If there is a commonly asked question, I will write a tutorial about it :)
[00:35] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: how long have you been around the Ubuntu online community?
[00:36] <WeedGrinch> I've been using Ubuntu for about 2 years, on and off, now I ONLY use ubuntu.  I am rather new to the community though.
[00:37] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: are you familiar with ubotu ?
[00:38] <WeedGrinch> Isn't that the info bot in #ubuntu
[00:39] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: right.
[00:39] <WeedGrinch> :)
[00:39] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: we like to provide quality support for Ubuntu
[00:39] <WeedGrinch> Yea, I've noticed that, whenever I need help #Ubuntu helps a lot.
[00:40] <nalioth> i suspect you could help out on #ubuntu and add factoids to ubotu and help many more folks
[00:40] <WeedGrinch> Also, In the near future, I may buy a domain for the channel, if it becomes semi-popular, the site would contain tutorials, and maybe a java based IRC so people without an IRC client can talk with us
[00:40] <LjL> WeedGrinch: there are a few topics that can be "specific"... yet, even though we get, for instance, many people asking about wireless problem, we don't direct them to a wireless-specific channel. that's because we feel that even though #ubuntu is crowded, having a central place rather than scattering knowledge around many separate and little-communicating venutes is a better route
[00:41] <LjL> WeedGrinch: do you think what you have in mind has a reason to not follow this scheme?
[00:41] <WeedGrinch> nalioth, I do not know how to add factoids, I assume they are the help files ubotu says
[00:42] <LjL> !bot
[00:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:42] <LjL> WeedGrinch: the bot already has some factoids about themes and similar things. i'm sure there is room for improvement
[00:42] <LjL> !themes
[00:42] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[00:42] <WeedGrinch> LjL, I agree #Ubuntu help a lot.  I am just trying to help, and learn new things myself.  If you don't make me to make a channel, it's ok, I won't.
[00:42] <LjL> !search theme
[00:42] <ubotu> Found: eyecandy, brokenusplash-#kubuntu, launch-feedback, brokenusplash, i-candy, wallpaper, panel-#kubuntu-kde4, changethemes, icandy, themes
[00:43] <LjL> WeedGrinch, if i had decided that i don't want you to create a channel, i'd say "i don't want you to create a channel"... but i'm just discussing for the moment. don't you think you could better help by contributing to ubotu and to #ubuntu, for instance?
[00:44] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: we just think you could help more folks where more folks are  :)
[00:44] <LjL> yeah, that's what i said about scattering knowledge, in a nutshell
[00:45] <WeedGrinch> Well, Ok, if that's what you think is best, I'll try to add some factoids, and help out around #ubuntu
[00:47] <WeedGrinch> What do you suggest I do with my channel?
[00:47] <LjL> WeedGrinch, if you're not yet entirely familiar with the IRC community, yes, i do recommand that you see how #ubuntu works (and how the bot works, and how the wiki pages that the bot links to work), and help improving them -- and then, if after you're familiar with everything you still think (this time with some more hands-on experience on IRC vs. Ubuntu) that another channel would be useful, well... you'll have gained experience in the meanwhile to make
[00:47] <LjL> the channel really good
[00:48] <WeedGrinch> Alright
[00:48] <WeedGrinch> How do I delete my chan?
[00:51] <LjL> WeedGrinch: /cs drop #ubuntu-modding - but i suppose you could just keep it registered as well if you still plan on proposing it at a later time
[00:51] <WeedGrinch> Alright, I'll just leave it reged
[00:52] <LjL> WeedGrinch: really, i don't want to stop you from doing something useful, i just think you should get a better idea of the community first, and get an informed opinion on what things are needed
[00:53] <LjL> WeedGrinch: if #ubuntu goes a bit fast, a trick could be to have some keywords on highlights (all today's IRC clients support that), so you could be highlighted by people saying "theme", or "effects", etc
[00:53] <WeedGrinch> Ok, thanks for the advice.  Is there anything that you reccomend I add factoids about? Or anything that needs more documentation?
[00:54] <WeedGrinch> Oh i see thanks
[00:54] <nalioth> WeedGrinch: only you know what factoids are missing or need improvement
[00:54] <WeedGrinch> Ok
[00:55] <LjL> WeedGrinch: well, there is the page about APT pinning that's really in a bad state - but that has nothing to do with themes :)
[00:56] <WeedGrinch> Yea, I dont know a great deal about other things.
[00:57] <puff> There's an interesting (to me) question here... I agree about keeping a focus of attention, but I find #ubuntu really spammy sometimes.
[00:57] <WeedGrinch> :) :P
[00:58] <WeedGrinch> Puff I answered ur question in #ubuntu-modding, have a look
[00:58] <LjL> WeedGrinch: what i do with the bot usually is, just use it to give people answers, but whenever i give people an answer, check it myself as well (even if i've checked it many times already). that way you become familiar with the factoids and the wiki pages and stay updated on what needs improvements
[00:59] <WeedGrinch> Ok thanks :)
[00:59] <LjL> puff, it's an issue that's often been raised, and of course creating secondary channels may have merits, we just think the drawbacks outweight them.
[00:59] <nalioth> puff: this is why when you speak to someone in #ubuntu (or any large channel) you preface or append your text with that persons nick
[01:00] <puff> nalioth: Yeah, it's still really difficult.
[01:00] <nalioth> puff: if helps if you only concentrate on helping one or two persons at a time
[01:00] <puff> I wish there were better support for "public" conversations in the irc clients...
[01:01] <LjL> puff: well, once you're in a conversation, i usually don't find it too hard to follow *that* conversation. it can certainly be hard to spot questions that you may know about... that's where highlights may help
[01:01] <LjL> err, IRC is like the chief medium for "public conversations" isn't it :)
[01:01] <puff> E.g. you start a conversation and your client divides your window; window 1 shows the full flow, window 2 shows just the traffic from people in the conversation.
[01:02] <puff> Idkanow about _chief_ medium, but :-).
[01:02] <LjL> puff, i'm sure some advanced clients can be set up to work like that, with some scripting
[01:02] <puff> Yeah.
[01:02] <LjL> irssi for instance
[01:02] <puff> My client is emacs :-).
[01:02]  * LjL runs
[01:02] <WeedGrinch> I use Gaim
[01:02] <WeedGrinch> lol
[01:03] <LjL> Gaim is possibly a bit limiting for following a channel like #ubuntu (although i haven't used it myself)
[01:03] <LjL> i think most people using GNOME are either on X-Chat if they want a GUI, or irssi otherwise
[01:04] <WeedGrinch> Gaim is really nice for IRC actually
[01:05] <LjL> well, whatever suits you best - i'm using a client that most people laugh about sarcastically whenever it's mentioned, so i won't sneer at other people's choices :)
[01:05] <WeedGrinch> haha, thaks
[01:06] <WeedGrinch> thanks*
[01:06] <WeedGrinch> **
[01:08] <puff> okay, ciao.
[01:08] <WeedGrinch> Ok, Ill be in #ubuntu, and #ubuntu-modding
[01:08] <WeedGrinch> Bye
[03:01] <Andre_Gondim> how may i have a croak?
[03:05] <Andre_Gondim> how may i have a cloak?
[03:07] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, what type of cloak?
[03:07] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, ubuntu cloak
[03:08] <Andre_Gondim> irc
[03:08] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, only members can have one
[03:09] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, I am Ubuntu Member
[03:09] <Andre_Gondim> http://launchpad.net/~andregondim
[03:09] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, then, ask in #ubutnu-ops
[03:10] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, there was a Community Council meeting today?
[03:10] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, I think no
[03:27] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim_, boa noite ;)
[03:27] <Andre_Gondim_> no0tic, boa
[03:30] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, Brazilian?
[03:30] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, nacì no brazil
[03:30] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, but I'm italian
[03:30] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, sounds good
[03:31] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, onde moras?
[03:31] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, Porto Alegre - RS, no sul, mas nasci em Campina Grande - PB, nordeste, e tu és de onde?
[03:31] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, I can't really speak fluently in portouguese :)
[03:32] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, I was born in Campina Grande at Paraíba states, but I'm living in Porto Alegre - RS
[03:32] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, eu nacì no estado de sao paulo, perto de santos, guarujà, conhece?
[03:32] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, entendo tudo, mais nao falo bem :)
[03:33] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, a bom, heheh já estive em são paulo tres vezes, mas muito rápido
[03:34] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, Gabriele é um nome feminino ou masculino? desculpa, mas no Brasil é feminino
[03:34] <no0tic> :) masculino
[03:35] <no0tic> my parents are italian :)
[03:35] <no0tic> meus pais sao italianos (?)
[03:36] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, suspeitei disso, mas preferi não presumir
[03:37] <no0tic> :)
[03:38] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, como soube que eu era brasileiro, meu ingles ruim?
[03:38] <no0tic> nao, teu ip :)
[03:38] <no0tic> 201-3-135-84.paemt705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
[03:39] <no0tic> :)
[03:39] <Andre_Gondim> =]
[03:41] <no0tic> seu, talvez melhor :)
[03:41] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, justo?
[03:42] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, não entendi heeh
[03:42] <no0tic> "seu ip", nao "teu ip"
[03:42] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, a sim, correto heeh
[03:46] <no0tic> hola P3L|C4N0 :) \o)
[03:46] <P3L|C4N0> o/ hi no0tic
[03:46] <P3L|C4N0> ;)
[03:50] <no0tic> bom, agora boa noite :)
[03:50] <no0tic> P3L|C4N0, buenas noches :)
[03:50] <no0tic> good night
[03:50] <P3L|C4N0> no0tic, noapte buna
[03:51] <P3L|C4N0> ;)
[03:51] <no0tic> P3L|C4N0, que idioma es esto?
[03:51] <P3L|C4N0> no0tic, romaneste
[03:51] <no0tic> :)
[03:51] <P3L|C4N0> no0tic,  rumano
[03:51] <Andre_Gondim> no0tic, vou nessa, abraços
[03:52] <no0tic> Andre_Gondim, muito prazer de falar contigo
[16:22] <fetova> holas
[18:30]  * fetova forget the ubuntu-es-op chanel :(
[18:31] <no0tic> fetova, hi
[18:31] <fetova> hi no0tic :)
[19:01] <fetova> jpatrick: ping
[19:01] <jpatrick> fetova: ARG
[19:01] <jpatrick> :)
[19:01] <fetova> holas :P
[19:01] <jpatrick> @pong | fetova
[19:01] <botijo> Facto pong no encontrado
[19:01] <fetova> xD
[19:01] <fetova> de el te iba a preguntar :P
[19:02] <fetova> hay modo de ponerle en un query que en x canal ponga ot a x usuario? :)
[19:03] <fetova> y por cierto que es ARG :P
[19:03] <no0tic> @ping
[19:03] <botijo> Pong!
[19:03] <no0tic> :)
[19:03] <fetova> :P
[19:03] <jpatrick> @ping > fetova
[19:04] <fetova> xD
[19:04] <fetova> @ping | fetova
[19:04] <fetova> que ese solo por query...
[19:04] <fetova> [13:04] <botijo> (En el futuro, hablame en privado para experimentar) Pong!
[19:05] <fetova> :P
[19:05] <jpatrick> @ot | fetova
[19:05] <botijo> fetova: #ubuntu-irc es un canal de soporte, para hablar de temas no relacionados por favor visita #ubuntu-es-offtopic. ¡Gracias!
[19:05] <jpatrick> ?
[19:06] <fetova> nope
[19:06] <jpatrick> fetova: /msg botijo @cosa
[19:07] <fetova> [13:06] <botijo> fetova: por favor mirase arriba
[19:07] <fetova> por
[19:07] <fetova>  /msg botijo @ot | fetova
[19:07] <jpatrick> fetova: porque ya lo ha dice antes :p
[19:07] <fetova> oras... le programaste eso? :P bien :D
[19:08] <fetova> por cierto...
[19:08] <fetova> como va el nombre del canal de op de ubuntu-es?
[19:08] <fetova> se me olvido...
[19:08] <jpatrick> Pelicano
[19:09] <jpatrick> pero como P3LCANo
[19:09] <jpatrick> o algo raro
[19:09] <jpatrick> fetova: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-es-freenode
[19:10] <fetova> :p
[19:10] <fetova> va :P
[19:10] <fetova> no esta ahi :(
[19:10] <fetova> yo si :P
[19:10] <fetova> lol