=== asac_ is now known as asac [06:43] good morning === Mithrand1r is now known as Mithrandir [11:31] Mithrandir, StevenK: you're aware of bug 188130, bug 186817, bug 185669, bug 188828, bug 186843? [11:31] Launchpad bug 188130 in moblin-image-creator "Update moblin-image-creator to 0.39" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188130 [11:31] Launchpad bug 186817 in osso-af-settings "incorrect value defined for desktopentrydir in osso-af-settings.pc.in" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186817 [11:31] Launchpad bug 185669 in cheese "Update hildon UI patch for cheese 2.21.5" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185669 [11:31] Launchpad bug 186843 in moblin-ui-framework "drag events not being propagated to home applets correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186843 [11:34] dholbach: I wasn't, but thanks. === jonnnylamb is now known as jonnylamb === \sh_away is now known as \sh [15:35] Has anyone looked at the latest version of liferea in hardy (1.4.11-1ubuntu2)? Does it completely obsolete frothing? [15:35] tremolux: ^^^^ [15:40] smagoun: We should check with StevenK . My understanding is that he packaged Ian's Frothing and that is what is in Hardy. [15:41] smagoun: I tested the earlier version that StevenK sent to me, not the one in Hardy [15:42] tremolux_: the latest version of liferea conflicts with frothing (overlapping files) so I'd like to shoot frothing [15:42] ...but only if it makes sense [15:43] smagoun: Hmm, Frothing is the hildonized Liferea. [15:43] yes, I know... [15:44] We need to move the hildon code into Liferea [15:45] yes, I'm asking if anyone knows whether that's happened. [15:47] smagoun: I don't know for sure. I'll check it [15:47] thanks === \sh is now known as \sh_away [18:12] Mithrandir: I have a new Moblin Image Creator (0.40) to push to Hardy. Will that cause trouble for the UME nightly build? [18:19] smagoun_: assuming it works, it shouldn't be a problem. [18:20] Mithrandir: ok, thanks. I ask because the fsets changed at some point - we need mccaslin-lpia-hardy-ppa instead of mccaslin-lpia, for example. [18:21] uh-hu. That needs updating, then. [18:22] Is that something I can do? [18:31] Question: Why are we removing fsets that are still being updated (gutsy-PPA)? [18:40] GrueMaster: the gutsy PPA is no longer being updated. The most recent update was 2008-01-24, and to my knowledge everyone's concentrating on Hardy now. [18:50] Funny, openoffice was updated on there today. [18:51] Still, there are users/customers that are stuck on gutsy, and gutsy itsself is frozen for the most part. [18:51] GrueMaster: That PPA is used for both Gutsy and Hardy builds; OpenOffice was pushed to the Hardy part of the PPA [18:52] Ok, what about the linux-modules for 2.6.22? [18:53] I see a linux-ubuntu-modules pushed on 2008-01-21: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive [18:57] Do I need to do a complete file search and list the latest updates? The point is, we have customers still using this, so why is support being dropped from image creator? [18:57] All it does is keep image creator from running if you have projects open that use these platforms. [18:59] GrueMaster: I was the guilty for pushing OO there :) [19:01] GrueMaster: check the moblin-dev list - HappyCamp just responded to your mail. [19:01] agoliveira: Missing the point. I'm trying to find out why support for gutsy-ppa was summarily dropped from image-creator. [19:02] GrueMaster, I explained in the email [19:02] The only reason I added it was for flash support. And we only had PPA support for less than two weeks. [19:02] GrueMaster: Oh, sorry. My conection dropped a few minutes ago and I guess I missed a part of the discussion. [19:03] So, ubuntu-gutsy main is getting the psb driver updates? [19:03] GrueMaster, no idea, though doubtful [19:03] Well, they're in ppa. [19:04] Well we (moblin.org) aren't using the gutsy PPA. We do have Hardy PPA platforms. [19:04] GrueMaster: no, main won't get driver updates. If you want gusty+PSB you can get the drivers from moblin [19:04] If you really want it then you need to convince rustyl [19:05] So, how are you building the latest gutsy images with psb support? [19:05] I am assuming we use menlow-lpia or mccaslin-lpia [19:10] I think my main frustration is that I have to maintain daily snapshots for various developers, and when several snapshot projects that are in use are based on a platform that is summarily dropped, image creator should not fail to continue working. I understand if no more gutsy updates are going into ppa, but does that mean that image creator should break as a result of that? [19:11] As part of my daily snapshot maintenance, I also have to update image-creator via git. Otherwise I would have left it static. [19:11] GrueMaster, at the moment I don't have any plans to put it back in. But you can look back in the version and restore what was taken out. [19:12] So you're saying I should fork image-creator? [19:12] I am surprised that you started using it so quickly and in such a short time became dependent on that platform to be there. For Gutsy we want people to use moblin.org [19:12] The hardy targets are Ubuntu only and do NOT pull from moblin.org [19:13] GrueMaster, You can fork it if you desire, but at the moment I don't plan to put it back in. From what I know we don't need PPA, since we have the stuff on Moblin.org [19:14] So gutsy ppa seems to be redundant/unneccesary, at least that is the impression I have gotten from robr and rustyl [19:15] HappyCamp / GrueMaster : it was decided at the sprint last week that we would use moblin and hardy ppa only . Moblin is still gutsty based for the immediate future. [19:28] I just checked, and the daily ubuntu-gutsy images from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/gutsy/menlow_full use the ppa repository. Since they do not provide project files with these images, I need to recreate build environments here using menlow-lpia-ubuntu-gutsy-ppa. This is where my problem lies. If the menlow-lpia platform were to include um-ppa-gutsy.list then my problem would be solved. Until then, I am stuck with either maintaining a f [19:29] This is based on today's image at the above location. [19:44] smagoun: the latest version of liferea in hardy (1.4.11-1ubuntu2) does indeed have all of the Frothing hildon patches, done by StevenK. This obsoletes Frothing. [19:44] tremolux: great, thanks [19:44] GrueMaster: I am guessing you aren't looking for driver updates on gutsy, only for a fset to be restored. In which case HappyCamp is in control. [19:45] GrueMaster: For my part, I _don't_ intend to push any driver updates for 2.6.22 from moblin into the Gutsy PPA