[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: I will be here
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Rufus_, I think that 0.6.0 is the latest stable release, which is basically what Ubuntu 7.10 ( Gutsy ) has by default
[00:00] <unop__> Tiikeri^, what is 6715s?
[00:00] <Rufus_> Jordan_U, they added some plugins and features recently
[00:00] <Stepdir> unop__ I checked that too. I said no to ext2.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Rufus_, Stable plugins?
[00:01] <excitatory> travisat: wow, ok, thank you :D
[00:01] <Rufus_> Jordan_U, no idea
[00:01] <unop__> Stepdir, ahh, errm, IIRC ext3 is just ext2 with journalling included -- that explains why
[00:02] <Stepdir> unop__ funny because it identify's it as ext2 first line at boot. :-/
[00:02] <Tiikeri^> unop__ my laptop.... Compaq 6715 with 32 bit Sempron
[00:02] <Dr_willis> ext3 can be mounted as ext2 :) backwards compatiability
[00:02] <Jordan_U> Rufus_, If they aren't stable they won't be included in the official Ubuntu repositories, you will likely need to add other repositories to get those features
[00:02] <WeedGrinch> Anyone know how to register a channel on freenode?
[00:03] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, yea didn't fix anything. I tried reinstalling VLC as well.. but nothing :/
[00:03] <PriceChild> WeedGrinch, /msg chanserv help
[00:03] <unop__> Stepdir, i'm not sure why that is - but i would include both ext2 and ext3 support into the kernel
[00:03] <WeedGrinch> ty
[00:03] <Starnestommy> WeedGrinch: /msg chanserv help register, but you may want to look over http://freenode.net/ploicy.shtml first
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: I have a couple pages of notes....  which card #
[00:03] <giggles> unop_ thx: I did not realise it was called Nautilus :P  Anyway, I went to Places, then Computer but I do not see the sda partition (which is called SW_Preload).  Do I need to reboot or anything like that?
[00:03] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, ATI X1950Pro
[00:03] <Stepdir> unop__ I think I will try that. Thanks for the help.
[00:03] <PriceChild> !away > vix|away
[00:04] <unop__> Tiikeri^, ahh, thats odd -- installing a 64bit OS on a 32bit machine - doesnt make sense, i'd think it was rubbish - but there may be a good reason for doing so
[00:04] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, Xserver can't configure it by default whenever I do dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it says it cannot detect video hardware.
[00:04] <unop__> giggles, you could try a reboot yes - might be a good idea anyway
[00:04] <Tiikeri^> i thought it too but then saw one installation guide that said so at very first line...
[00:04] <ulaf> is it possible for gparted to skip the 4kb of bad sectors when resizing?
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: May I assume you have already done this..  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[00:05] <Tiikeri^> but ill test it soon anyway so... ill let you know did it work :D
[00:05] <giggles> ok, let me try.  Thank you for all your help.  If I am not back here in 20 mins, I'll be in the corner sulking with a wet towel wrapped around my head.
[00:05] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, I did, yes.
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: IS your xorg posted
[00:05] <unop__> giggles, you'll be ok as long as your cross your fingers and touch wood :)
[00:05] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, like pastebin?
[00:06] <dn4> is fdisk -l suppost to show the cdrom?
[00:06] <unop__> dn4, no
[00:06] <BioniX> Will Hardy Heron's Nautilus have TABS???????????
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: yes, pastebin.. and did you install fglrx ?
[00:06] <broken__> I did install fglrx
[00:06] <BioniX> a MUST
[00:06] <broken__> Let me get a pastebin.
[00:06] <unop__> dn4, fdisk only lists "fixed disks" - and a CD-Rom drive does not fall into this category
[00:06] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, I mean it was all working before until I decided to get rid of XGL
[00:06] <Jordan_U> !hardy | BioniX
[00:06] <ubotu> BioniX: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:07] <dxdt> BioniX: it kinda already has tabs, in a way...  They just don't look like tabs, but they function like them I think.  I don't know
[00:07] <dn4> Unicron, thanks
[00:07] <dn4> unop__, thanks
[00:07] <BioniX> aha?
[00:07] <BioniX> screenshots?
[00:07] <qwstar> how do I get tracker to work? tracker-stats says i have 119,249 files indexed, but nothing comes up when i search using tracker-search or the gui tool.
[00:07] <NW2190> hey, my Places > Network > Windows Network folder doesn't show my Windows Workgroups any more. Does anyone have any clue how to fix that?
[00:07] <fantum13> Why does update manager want to remove my apt-build installed packages when according to apt-cache policy, apt-build has the same priority as the standard repos?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: What does fglrxinfo  show
[00:08] <crimsun> fantum13: because they're not whitelisted.
[00:08] <panfist> how do i see what im currently using as a swap partition
[00:08] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, http://pb.udderweb.com/144 for xorg
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: ok..
[00:08] <crimsun> fantum13: you probably want to file a wishlist bug against update-manager
[00:08] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, I"ll get a paste of fglrxinfo as well
[00:09] <fantum13> crimsun: Do you know where I could get more information about this system?
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: just look to see if it says mesa
[00:09] <less-random> panfist: swapon -s
[00:09] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, just says opengl
[00:09] <crimsun> fantum13: see the update-manager documentation & source
[00:09] <fantum13> crimsun: thanks
[00:10] <neilwardle2002> anyone had any problems with updating ubuntu  7.4 64bit to 7.10 64bit and not been able to use wireless?
[00:11] <toc2rta> How do i get firefox to work with my java ?
[00:11] <stdin> toc2rta: install the plugin, eg: sun-java6-plugin
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: http://pb.udderweb.com/145          I made a minor edit   make a backup of your xorg first
[00:12] <panfist> less-random so apparently i dont have  a swap file right now?
[00:12] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, ok.
[00:12] <toc2rta> stdin be more specific
[00:12] <ronny1> is there any increase in performance when using ubuntu 64 bit over ubuntu 32 bit ?
[00:13] <toc2rta> how did you got java working with ur ffx ?
[00:13] <stdin> toc2rta: by installing that package
[00:13] <panfist> ronny1 there definitely is if youre planning on using more than 4 gigs of ram...unless youre doing that its not recommended
[00:13] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to get the latest version of adobe flash player?
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.   as long as it does not say mesa instead of ati
[00:13] <unop__> ronny1, sure, you might not experience it but internally yes, the 64bit OS harnesses the full potential of the hardware
[00:13] <osmosis_> how do I change my default crontab editor ?
[00:13] <neilwardle2002> ronny1 depends on your processor :)
[00:13] <Mad972> Hi there, I got a problem with the hotkey of my aus laptop, it's not detected never were.
[00:14] <travisat> ronny1: I find the biggest increase is in the amount of ram I can use
[00:14] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, it says ATI but.. i'll try this new xorg.
[00:14] <unop__> osmosis, EDITOR=nano  crontab -e   ??
[00:14] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, should I sreboot?
[00:14] <travisat> ronny1: I have more ram then I know what to do with know :)
[00:14] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to get the latest version of adobe flash?? please thx
[00:14] <sqush> need help with partitioning current drive to make ready for ubuntu install. two partitions on a drive, one with windows. please.
[00:15] <travisat> sqush: what is the problem
[00:15] <neilwardle2002> does anyone have any idea how to make a wireless card work as I did an update on 7.04 to 7.10 and cant turn the pci card on
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: Sure, I am going over my notes as we do this..
[00:15] <WeedGrinch> When I type /msg chanserv register #Ubuntu-Modding
[00:15] <WeedGrinch> it says
[00:15] <WeedGrinch> (07:15:28 PM) ChanServ: (notice) Channel [#Ubuntu-Modding] does not exist
[00:15] <neilwardle2002> even with iwconfig
[00:15] <giggles> unop_I'm back.  The reboot worked in that the partition now appears in Nautilus.  Problem now is that I can't find my data - there are file icons on the screen that disappear when I click on them.  How can I check that I have not lost the data?
[00:15] <WeedGrinch> So how do i reg it, "it does not exist"
[00:16] <fantum13> crimsun: How can I allow myself to locally install packages that also exist on the repositories without update-manager disliking it?
[00:16] <sqush> travisat: i have drive: C:\ and E:\ i want to re-partition C:\ to dual-boot winXP and ubuntu. i a little lost as to how to do so
[00:16] <sqush> am*
[00:16] <crimsun> fantum13: don't know, sorry.
[00:16] <dhanar_10> toc2rta: i use java bin package from java.sun.com
[00:16] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, alright, thanks, I"ll brb.
[00:16] <neilwardle2002> which drive is primary drive
[00:16] <fantum13> crimsun: thanks anyways
[00:17] <Mad972> travisat: hi man, could you help me get the hotkeys of my laptop detected or at least point me toward someone who could please?
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> fantum13: What is the difference between what you are installing and the repos
[00:17] <amenado> !xglinfo  > amenado
[00:17] <unop__> giggles, errm, what i would do is - copy all the stuff from that partition over onto another parition first
[00:17] <toc2rta> i can't use sun i have a ppc, dhanar_10
[00:17] <neilwardle2002> repos is a repository not active
[00:17] <travisat> Mad972: no idea I use a ibm model m, it has no extra keys
[00:17] <travisat> sqush: well are you trying to replace one of the drives with ubuntu, or resize one for ubuntu?
[00:18] <sqush> travisat: sorry, resize C:\
[00:18] <danielski_pl> need some help again, every time i start my computer ubuntu starts in "low graphics mode" i have to set my card and restart, this is Sh****g me
[00:18] <Mad972> know who could help me? been on the channel with my questions unanswered a long time :s
[00:18] <fantum13> Jack_Sparrow: Absolutely nothing. I used apt-build on a few things, and then afterwards, update-manager wanted to override them. Its happened before on things I've installed with dpkg manually (in that case it was Piding with SILC support).
[00:18] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush : can u explain ur question....
[00:18] <fantum13> Jack_Sparrow: The versions are the same, if it means anything.
[00:18] <neilwardle2002> get envy
[00:19] <neilwardle2002> envy seems to install latest graphics drivers so usually fixes most graphics problems
[00:19] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: did u use the alternate cd....
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> neilwardle2002: BAd idea
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[00:19] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:19] <neilwardle2002> why
[00:19] <lordrohith> Hey guys
[00:19] <dhanar_10> toc2rta: aw...
[00:19] <sqush> indiadev_techie: actually im on live cd now :)
[00:19] <toc2rta> yea.. i know that suck
[00:19] <giggles> unop_ok, I'll see if I can copy stuff across but it looks bleak.  It's telling me I have 80GB free space in that partition - and it was almost full before I had the Vista blue screen.  Anyway, I have to sign off now and will check back tomorrow
[00:20] <travisat> sqush: ok on the live cd have you started the install yet?
[00:20] <neilwardle2002> it still gets the latest drivers from the manufact websites
[00:20] <sqush> travisat: yep, im on the "prepare partions" window, i dont wanna harm C:\ or E:\
[00:20] <unop_> giggles, hope you havent lost the stuff -- good luck
[00:20] <puff> I upgraded to gutsy, now emacs won't start in GUI mode, it gives me this error:  No fonts match `-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*'
[00:20] <jrcdude> Hey, what is recommended for a LAMP server, 32 bit or 64 bit?
[00:20] <travisat> sqush: ok I don't remember the options off hand what are they, you don't have to spell them all the way out
[00:21] <unop_> jrcdude, it depends on your processor
[00:21] <jrcdude> Sempron 3000+
[00:21] <WeedGrinch> Yay! My channel is up! Feel free to join me at #Ubuntu-Modding
[00:21] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: ok... so whats ur problem.....
[00:22] <sqush> travisat: edit part, delete part, under changes and it has my /dev/sda with /dev/sda1 (C:\) and /dev/sda5 (E:\)
[00:22] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: did u use live cd install......
[00:22] <Dimitree> i need Hyperterminal for Ubuntu ! "Serial Port Termina" doesnt work/behave like Hyperterminal in windows and its unusable for me :[
[00:22] <Dimitree> please help
[00:22] <lordrohith> Hey guys, when I try to install wine I get the following error
[00:22] <lordrohith> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:22] <lordrohith>  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:22] <lordrohith> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:22] <sqush> indiadev_techie: you rock for helping, travisat picked it up...i feel like a goon turning down help, sorry
[00:22] <joanki> can anyone tell me how to get the latest version of adobe flash?? please thx
[00:23] <lordrohith> I think this might be because I installed a 32 bit version of firefox yesterday
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: How are you trying to install wine.. from repos or some other
[00:23] <lordrohith> terminal
[00:23] <danielski_pl> need some help again, every time i start my computer ubuntu starts in "low graphics mode" i have to set my card and restart, this is Sh****g me
[00:23] <unop_> !info minicom | Dimitree
[00:23] <ubotu> dimitree: minicom (source: minicom): friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2-5 (gutsy), package size 163 kB, installed size 1108 kB
[00:23] <joanki> please please someone answer??? sudo apt-get install ????? for adobe-flash latest version that works
[00:23] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow , through terminal
[00:23] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, it didn't work. It said there was an error in the xserver file and it couldn't start.
[00:23] <unop_> !flash | joanki
[00:23] <toc2rta> jack_Sparrow ? where can i go for the powerPC chat room ?
[00:23] <ubotu> joanki: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[00:23] <broken__> Something about unable to find screens.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[00:23] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[00:23] <Dimitree> ubotu, thank you
[00:23] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[00:23] <Grab> how can i reboot my remote shell
[00:23] <joanki> thx
[00:23] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: actuall i went thro ur question in hurry.... sorry 4 that :-)
[00:24] <unop_> Grab, reboot remote shell?? do you mean reboot remote machine?
[00:24] <Grab> no
[00:24] <Grab> shell
[00:24] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: so C:\ is ur linux or win partition???
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: From the ubuntu repos.. or from another source
[00:24] <sqush> indiadev_techie: dude no worries, like i said you rock for offering. thanks again
[00:24] <lordrohith> ubuntu repos
[00:24] <unop_> Grab,  i think you mean "exit"  and log back in
[00:24] <lordrohith> Sorry, still a beginner with the lingo
[00:24] <Grab> k
[00:24] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: C:\ = win part
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith:  does apt-get install wine  ring any bells
[00:25] <lordrohith> Yeah, that's what I used
[00:25] <lordrohith> except with an addition
[00:25] <lordrohith> sudo apt-get install wine msttcorefonts
[00:25] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: i have tried both alternet and live cd install... it work like charm....
[00:25] <alexander> hmm hello
[00:25] <joanki> so ya'll are saying that really i can't get flash because i have gutsy???
[00:25] <joanki> ugh
[00:26] <joanki> that bites the big one
[00:26] <Tallen> I am having a heck of a time getting my ATI 3850 card working proper in Linux Mint, anyone have one of those cards?
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> joanki: you can install flash
[00:26] <abitlater> joanki you can install flash
[00:26] <unop_> joanki, sure you can have flash - at the moment, installing flash is not possible from the repos and must be done manually
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Tallen: Ask in Linuxmint
[00:26] <abitlater> joanki search google for medibuntu
[00:27] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: well i have c: and e: on same disk...i wanna resize C: and not harm contents of rest of disk
[00:27] <joanki> medibuntu thx
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: do one then the other
[00:27] <lordrohith> oh ok
[00:27] <Tallen> join #linuxmint
[00:28] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: u can use gpart (gnome partition manager) for that...
[00:28] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow  I encountered the same errow
[00:28] <Tallen> oops
[00:28] <lordrohith> error*
[00:28] <krammer> how can i install a tgz file?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[00:28] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:28] <ere4si> Tallen, try   /j #linuxmint
[00:28] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: hmm... *fires up gpart*
[00:28] <unop_> krammer, you can't install it -- but you can extract the contents of it -- use this command -- tar zxf file.tgz
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: let me scroll back and see the error
[00:29] <lordrohith> Alright
[00:29] <lordrohith> Thanks
[00:29] <speedcore> anyone who can tell me a simple command to kill an ssh tunnel?
[00:29] <fantum13> speedcore: killall ssh
[00:29] <unop_> fantum13, that kills them all - perhaps he wants to kill just a particular one?
[00:30] <speedcore> anyway to see a particular tunnel and kill just that session
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: go to system.... admin... synaptic  and search for wine and try installing there
[00:30] <unop_> speedcore, use the gnome tunnel manager (i think that's what it is called)
[00:30] <speedcore> cool
[00:30] <speedcore> works for feisty too?
[00:30] <speedcore> servers got feisty...
[00:30] <lordrohith> Alright, will do
[00:30] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: haha, cool...thanks a bunch! (again.)
[00:30] <unop_> speedcore,  gSTM - Gnome SSH Tunnel Manager
[00:31] <sqush> travisat: thank you too!
[00:31] <unop_> speedcore, does your server run gnome tho?
[00:31] <n3rdglass> can anyone help with forum registration? i want to register but cant
[00:31] <Dimitree> :[
[00:32] <speedcore> unop: yes it does run... gnome
[00:32] <Dimitree> minicom is for experts :[
[00:32] <Dimitree> please i need Hyperterminal for ubuntu :[
[00:32] <unop_> speedcore, it should work
[00:32] <n3rdglass> i really want to post with some hardware confusion someone else said they had, found a wrapper that works great
[00:32] <n3rdglass> but cant share :(
[00:32] <speedcore> unop: ops I run dapper... LTS
[00:32] <Gibb> I need help with flash in firefox, whats the deal?
[00:33] <speedcore> Plan to upgrade it to hardy when that LTS is out..
[00:33] <unop_> Dimitree, there is no hyperterminal for ubuntu
[00:33] <speedcore> any tunnel manager for dapper?
[00:33] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow , I received the following error
[00:33] <Gibb> !flash gibb
[00:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash gibb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:33] <lordrohith> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[00:33] <lordrohith> Failed to create initrd image.
[00:33] <lordrohith> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic (--configure):
[00:33] <lordrohith>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:33] <n3rdglass> no forum mods here?
[00:33] <ere4si> !flash | Gibb
[00:33] <ubotu> Gibb: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[00:33] <Indiadev_Techie> plz help sqush : how do i resize my  drive partiton without harming its contents???
[00:33] <n3rdglass> any name i use it says the username doesnt meet the administrator standards...but they're not listed anywhere!!
[00:34] <Indiadev_Techie> plz help sqush : his question > how do i resize my  drive partiton without harming its contents???
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: Something is really odd...  You have not changed any repos or done anything we should know
[00:34] <lordrohith> Well, I installed the 32bit version of firefox yesterday
[00:34] <lordrohith> That's the only thing I can think of
[00:34] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: ??
[00:34] <microphex> for some reason i don't have sound anymore, how do i reinstall my drivers?
[00:35] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: does gpart normally take this long to scan devices?
[00:35] <Jay955> is setup ubuntu hard to setup if your using it for a file server
[00:35] <dm_edge> I'm sorry of being persistent, but can anyone help me solve my dhcp problem? I've been trying all kinds of stuff but nothing seems to work out... I'm also a total noob when it comes to linux:)
[00:36] <asker> hi which freenode server do you usually use?
[00:36] <Starnestommy> asker: irc.freenode.net or chat.freenode.net?
[00:36] <LjL> !ot | asker
[00:36] <ubotu> asker: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:36] <n3rdglass> any forum admin/mods available?
[00:36] <n3rdglass> ubuntuforum.org that is
[00:36] <webmaren> dm_edge: what is the problem
[00:36] <n3rdglass> +s
[00:37] <crdlb> n3rdglass: try #ubuntuforums
[00:37] <n3rdglass> ty!
[00:37] <Indiadev_Techie> plz help sqush : yes it does..... but i dont know for what reason..... it happened when i pendrive too.....
[00:37] <dm_edge> after installing nvidia drivers kdm got stuck, so I returened it to the "nv" driver, but after logging in again to kdm there's no connection to the internet anymore
[00:37] <Biohazard> hi
[00:38] <n3rdglass> ty again crdlb
[00:38] <dm_edge> it's set to dhcp but it doesn't receive an address anymore, but it used to work just fine
[00:38] <toc2rta> how do i get video codecs for ubuntu ?
[00:38] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush : or u can use partition logic....
[00:38] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: okay ty
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > toc2rta
[00:38] <webmaren> have you tried manually configuring the address
[00:39] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow do you think installing any programs could've changed something?
[00:39] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: looks like live cd only has gparted
[00:39] <dm_edge> yeah, I copied what I saw on my other pc which has windows but no luck
[00:39] <dm_edge> I tried to set the same gateway address
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: If you used a script like automatix or envy, yes, it can mess things up...
[00:39] <speedcore> what is the gnome filemanager called...   I like to be able to move all kinds of files gui wise..    sudo nautilus?
[00:39] <Starnestommy> speedcore: gksudo nautilus?
[00:39] <lordrohith> The only program I installed today was Amarok
[00:40] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: yes... did u try the drive resizing.....with gparted....
[00:40] <speedcore> is it called nautilus?
[00:40] <dm_edge> but anyways dhclient broadcasts to all addresses right? so it supposed to find the modem
[00:40] <Starnestommy> speedcore: yes
[00:40] <tecywiz121> I have two buttons on my keyboard that don't do anything, and don't generate events in 'xev', I was wondering if it is possible to activate them?
[00:40] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: still scannin :\
[00:40] <webmaren> can you screenshot the wireless config panel
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: It you installed things on your own.. you can mess things up...  All you have installed is amarok?  what else...
[00:40] <speedcore> thanx
[00:40] <dm_edge> it's not wireless it's wired
[00:40] <broken__> Anyone know of a good video recorder using your webcam? That has audio as well?
[00:40] <dm_edge> admtek card
[00:41] <webmaren> oh sorry i meant the network panel
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: where are you at with the problem
[00:41] <tecywiz121> broken__, ffmpeg ;)
[00:41] <dm_edge> I could, but it's all in Japanese, is it still fine by you?:)
[00:41] <amenado> dm_edge, which os are you running? version?
[00:41] <broken__> Jack_Sparrow, didn't solve it so I gave up.
[00:41] <dm_edge> kubuntu 7
[00:42] <dm_edge> not sure is it's 7.04 or 7.10
[00:42] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: wait i will giv ya a link...
[00:42] <dm_edge> downloaded it a few days ago though
[00:42] <tecywiz121> anyone?
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> broken__: Wish I had better answers on those..  sometimes it is just a couple tweaks of xorg...
[00:42] <amenado> dm_edge, on a  terminal   sudo dhclient eth0
[00:42] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: it JUST finished
[00:42] <amenado> am assuming your nic is eth0
[00:43] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: what-- resizing ???
[00:43] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow , I tried installing this mp4 converter yesterday, perhaps that might've messed things up
[00:43] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: no, scanning
[00:43] <broken__> tecywiz121, ?
[00:43] <lordrohith> let me look up the instructions for it
[00:43] <broken__> FFMpeg?
[00:43] <dm_edge> it's eth1, and it fails to get a response
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: Where did you find it
[00:43] <dm_edge> no dhcp offers
[00:43] <lordrohith> From the ubuntu community documentation page Jack_Sparrow
[00:43] <amenado> dm_edge,  ifconfig -a   and pastebin your result please
[00:44] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: it wont let itself be resized :\
[00:44] <tecywiz121> broken__: its a command line tool that can record from a webcam, I am sure that there are some decent frontends out there too
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: That doesnt tell me much...
[00:44] <foso> is there a way to make transparency settings set by hitting alt and button 4 or 5 stick?
[00:44] <broken__> tecywiz121, ah ok, thanks.
[00:44] <lordrohith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding?highlight=%28ipod%29#head-64d6b6ea5b940db3ecf3b67a5ca2755e98b90847
[00:44] <dm_edge> it's on my other pc, so I'll have to copy it first somehow here
[00:44] <pedro__> I just don't understand why when I connect to FreeNode, my internet connects gets down
[00:44] <dm_edge> could you give me a minute?:)
[00:44] <lordrohith> Let me show you to the guide on the program
[00:45] <amenado> pedro__, you are connected to freenode now, so it has not gone down
[00:45] <toc2rta> Jaack_sparrow any codecs for PPC ubuntu ?
[00:45] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow , http://po-ru.com/diary/fixing-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[00:45] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: go to http://partitionlogic.org.uk/ to download partition logic.....
[00:45] <pedro__> amenado, but I mean the whole connection
[00:45] <toc2rta> PPC channel is really not helping
[00:45] <pedro__> amenado, the internet goes down
[00:45] <toc2rta> their all idle
[00:45] <pedro__> amenado, very bizarre
[00:45] <lordrohith> However, I was unable to finish following the instructions because halfway through I started getting errors
[00:45] <amenado> pedro__, you are connected to freenode now, so it has not gone down, you are connected and chatting with me
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: Nothing on that first page should be a problem
[00:46] <broken__> tecywiz121, hmm would you happent o know of any frontends? I can't seem to finda ny.
[00:46] <WeedGrinch> !ert
[00:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:46] <pedro__> amenado, I know, but it goes down at first... I wait the reconnection and everything goes normally
[00:46] <WeedGrinch> !et
[00:46] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:46] <amenado> pedro__, just because your first attempt does not connect, just be patient
[00:46] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: DOH! i think i have this, just didn't think to...err...THINK... :D
[00:46] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: http://partitionlogic.org.uk/download/index.html        its less than 5Mb....
[00:47] <pedro__> amenado, it is not about connection... my internet disconnect, the whole internet
[00:47] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow yeah but it's the second link that I'm more worried about
[00:47] <amenado> people are alway in a hurry
[00:47] <WeedGrinch> !awn
[00:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:47] <pedro__> disconnects*
[00:47] <WeedGrinch> !avant
[00:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:47] <puller> can somone help me get flash workign on opera?
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: Yep, try to avoid tutorials for the edgy release.
[00:48] <amenado> puller, umm try putting same libflashplayer.so where opera has plugins dir
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: That link is probably what messed you up
[00:48] <puller> amenado: i did
[00:48] <lordrohith> Ah, I knew it
[00:48] <amenado> puller, uhuh, and?
[00:48] <tecywiz121> broken__, none that support its recording features, sorry
[00:48] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: it supports all available formats... like ext2. ext3, resierfs, fat, fat32, ntfs... n many more.....
[00:48] <lordrohith> Jack_Sparrow is it fixable without a complete reinstall?
[00:49] <dm_edge> amenado: I did ifconfig -a, where should I paste the results?
[00:49] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: i forgot what to use for ubuntu, ext2 or ext3?
[00:49] <puller> amenado: mike@mike-desktop:/usr/lib/opera/plugins$ ls
[00:49] <puller> libflashplayer.so  libnpp.so  operaplugincleaner  operapluginwrapper
[00:49] <puller> mike@mike-desktop:/usr/lib/opera/plugins$
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: I dont know how much time you have in tweaking this install, but a fresh install will fix the problem
[00:49] <lordrohith> I see
[00:49] <lordrohith> Thanks for the help Jack_Sparrow
[00:50] <danielski_pl> how do i stop ubuntu from starting in low graphics mode?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrohith: Wish it was a better answer
[00:50] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: ext3...
[00:50] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: ty
[00:51] <amenado> !pastebin | dm_edge
[00:51] <ubotu> dm_edge: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:51] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: ubuntu partition/drives will not be visible on windows.....
[00:51] <dm_edge> thanks:)
[00:51] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: ever hear of ultimate boot disc?
[00:51] <amenado> puller and that didnt cure it?
[00:51] <puller> amenado: nope
[00:52] <amenado> puller.. okay..let me try to install one on mine
[00:52] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: just make sure u dont go wrong will using a disk resizing/formatting tool....
[00:52] <danielski_pl> how do i stop ubuntu from starting in low graphics mode?
[00:52] <puller> amenado: ok, i will be waitign around
[00:52] <dm_edge> pasted it in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54793/
[00:53] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: yeah, for sure. hey im gonna get try this thing and see how it goes. thank you again for all your help
[00:53] <dhanar_10> i have a problem with xine and mkv. when playing mkv files, the sound is skipping. anyone experiences this too?
[00:53] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: are you usually in here?
[00:53] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush:  yes, i know i has all the tools for data recovery, formating, resizing...
[00:53] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: use vlc
[00:53] <speedcore> when running an ssh tunnel...  which computer is doing the most ssh calculations..  the sshd-server or.. the client... or both equal?
[00:54] <soulrider> so, if anyone is kinda free, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4270243#post4270243
[00:54] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: givme the like for ultimate boot disc....
[00:54] <hhp2k> Hello everyone! I've got an old Toshiba Thinkpad that I've been wanting to install Ubuntu on, but whenever I try, it loads the ubuntu installation screen.. and when I pick install Ubuntu (or Install Ubuntu in Safe Graphics Mode) it'll start getting busy for a while, display the loading bar, and then display a lot of background text.. and then eventually stop, and not do anything. Why is this happening?
[00:54] <dxdt> speedcore: both if I understand you properly.  Both have to do encryption using each other's keys
[00:54] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: ya when ever i get time from ma work.....
[00:54] <speedcore> dxdt: but which one is making the least encryptions?  both equal?
[00:54] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[00:55] <WeedGrinch> !compizmanager
[00:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:55] <amenado> dm_edge, can you kindly paste your /etc/network/interfaces  ?  the one you just pasted shows no ip address assigned to eth1
[00:55] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: i want to know if anyone experiences my problem too... btw, i don't like the interface of vlc... it's a matter of taste...
[00:55] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: ok man, im gonna try to resize this thing, like before, thanks a lot!
[00:55] <dxdt> speedcore: I'm no expert in it, but I would assume they are doing equal amounts on the average.
[00:55] <WeedGrinch> !compizmanager is System —> Preferences —> Compiz Config Settings Manager.
[00:55] <WeedGrinch> !compizmanager
[00:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:55] <WeedGrinch> :@
[00:56] <psycholvlan> just one question.... why would hwclock no work... says select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out
[00:56] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: just be very carefull.. or u wil spell disaster......
[00:56] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: i havent experienced that in xine but vlc has choppy video
[00:56] <dm_edge> amenado: sure, but are there any other commands you'd like to see? since it takes to to move the data, I'd rather copy as much as I can at once
[00:56] <WeedGrinch> !emerald
[00:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:56] <WeedGrinch> wtf
[00:56] <dm_edge> *time to
[00:56] <johnny_> whenever i try installing a package i get the error message DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 2 during global destruction. dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[00:56] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: yeah i know, i've punished enough drives to learn to take my time
[00:56] <WeedGrinch> !beryl
[00:56] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:57] <WeedGrinch> !compiz
[00:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[00:57] <sqush> Indiadev_Techie: anyways im outta here for now. have a good evening (or good [time of day for you])
[00:57] <amenado> dm_edge, the file /etc/network/interfaces should be that many lines, maybe you can post them here, separate each line with ";"
[00:57] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: what is your xine-lib version? so you can play mkv files smoothly with xine, huh?
[00:57] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: i m frm India... n u...
[00:57] <hhp2k> Hello everyone! I've got an old Toshiba Thinkpad that I've been wanting to install Ubuntu on, but whenever I try, it loads the ubuntu installation screen.. and when I pick install Ubuntu (or Install Ubuntu in Safe Graphics Mode) it'll start getting busy for a while, display the loading bar, and then display a lot of background text.. and then eventually stop, and not do anything. Why is this happening?
[00:57] <amenado> dm_edge, the file /etc/network/interfaces should not* be that many lines, maybe you can post them here, separate each line with ";"
[00:57] <microphex> my audio all of a sudden just stopped working and ive rebooted to no avail. how can i reinstall drivers?
[00:58] <Indiadev_Techie> sqush: its 6.27am here...
[00:58] <Motomo> ethan
[00:59] <Quicksilva> !ati
[00:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:59] <microphex> !audio
[00:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:59] <jonnybegood> does anyone here know the ubuntu server edition?
[00:59] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k : use alternate cd....
[01:00] <Grab> is that possible to start a screen and tell it to start irssi automatically? something like: screen -start: irssi  ??
[01:00] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k : dont use the live cd install....
[01:00] <Starnestommy> Grab: screen irssi
[01:00] <jonnybegood> write a sh script
[01:00] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10 how do i check that?
[01:00] <speedcore> is there anyway to see network throughput in terminal... like a "top" for network?
[01:01] <bruenig> !info ntop | speedcore
[01:01] <ubotu> speedcore: ntop (source: ntop): display network usage in top-like format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.2-10.1 (gutsy), package size 2707 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[01:01] <dm_edge> amenado: pasted in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54794/
[01:01] <hhp2k> Indiadev_Techie: So download the installer instead?
[01:01] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k : how much ram does ur system have...
[01:01] <hhp2k> Indiadev_Techie: 128MB.
[01:01] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: open system>admin>synaptic and search for "xine"
[01:02] <dxdt> Wow, there is a last.fm package.  Who knew?  I didn't.
[01:02] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k : u should have atleast 256 mb ram to install ubuntu with the live cd....
[01:02] <Motomo> anyone know of a program to record live internet radio streams?
[01:02] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k : u can use the alternate cd version instead...
[01:02] <amenado> puller it didnt work for me yet..which site requires that plugin?
[01:02] <hhp2k> Indiadev_Techie: Alternate CD version?
[01:02] <puller> amenado: www.pandora.com
[01:02] <puller> amenado: or anyother flash sites, games etc
[01:03] <hhp2k> Indiadev_Techie: Oh, I see. I found it. =) Thanks.
[01:03] <amenado> dm_edge, 2 lines are wrong, dont put those ip address in line 3 and line 4
[01:04] <dm_edge> the adress and netmask under lo?
[01:04] <speedcore> I run an samba tunnel through ssh...  on a slow 566mhz celeron... and the transfer peaks.. at 288KB/sec..  without it peaks at 4500KB/sec.. Can it be the nic... the cpu is only 20%
[01:04] <viator> whats the coomAND  for deleting a user?
[01:04] <amenado> dm_edge yes, remove those two lines
[01:04] <viator> command*
[01:04] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k: download the alternate cd iso > burn it to a cd > boot it > n install.....
[01:04] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: couldnt find xine-lib in synaptic but i found others and they are 1.1.7
[01:04] <jonnybegood> is there any way to navigate int the server installation gui without using the arrows? :P i have spilled coke in it..
[01:04] <amenado> !who | dm_edge
[01:04] <ubotu> dm_edge: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:05] <mnemonica> Jordan_U: Hey. I'm back from earlier... Had the issues with my wireless card. The wiki link didn't help. Could you help me out?
[01:05] <hhp2k> Indiadev_Techie: That's the plan. Thanks!
[01:05] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: im viewing LOST S04E01 and there is no sign of choppiness in audio or video like in vlc
[01:05] <amenado> puller yep that didnt work for me..i will troubleshoot later, i have to leave for a few
[01:05] <geekitty> hi
[01:06] <Indiadev_Techie> hhp2k: it will show up a window 2000 or xp like interface.... so it will be light on ya ram.....
[01:06] <geekitty> can anybody help me with changing the root password (i forgot it-stupid!)
[01:06] <dm_edge> amenado: oh sorry about that:)
[01:06] <johnny_> whenever i try installing a package i get the error message DESTROY created new reference to dead object ' Qt::VBoxLayout', <> line 2 during global destruction. dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:06] <johnny_> does anyone know how to fix it
[01:07] <erik__> Hey- Anybody want to tell me how to SSH to a specific IP / Port? (Ubuntu > Smoothwall..)
[01:07] <WeedGrinch> !SSH
[01:07] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:07] <Indiadev_Techie> geekitty: wher u sleeping while assigning the password...
[01:07] <danielski_pl> how do i stop ubuntu from starting in low graphics mode?
[01:07] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: in ubuntu, xine-lib is libxine... same here 1.1.7... so your mkv files play smoothly, huh? i'm viewing gundam 00 mkv (h264+aac) and patlabor mkv (xvid+mp3). the sound is skipping, especially in opening and closing song...
[01:08] <WeedGrinch> What makes compiz, better then beryl?
[01:09]  * geekitty blush
[01:09] <phaedra> !compix-fusion | WeedGrinch
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compix-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <phaedra> !compiz-fusion | WeedGrinch
[01:09] <ubotu> WeedGrinch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:09] <dxdt> WeedGrinch: Berly was a fork of the original project and then they remerged into the cool new compiz-fusion
[01:09] <CandyBoy> can anybody help me install avant window navigator?
[01:09] <dxdt> after some politics were worked out
[01:09] <regnigiliars> hey how do i get ubuntu to recognize my SD card?
[01:10] <dm_edge> amenado: deleted those 2 lines but still no effect
[01:10] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: mine only chops once at the start of the movie between 00:01 and 00:08 and thats it, no more skips after that thats not a prob to me though
[01:10] <mnemonica> Can anyone direct me to a place that I might find "bcmwl15.inf" and "bcmwl15.sys"
[01:10] <protoloco> web01:/var/www/unibicate# tar --list backup_-_2008-02-01.tgz  <--- this is listing me a bunch of files that are displayed so quickly, how can i handle them to put iin a file, and read it carefully ?
[01:11] <phaedra> mnemonica,  Why wireless device are they for?
[01:11] <phaedra> why | what...
[01:11] <regnigiliars> hey how do i get ubuntu to recognize my SD card?
[01:11] <dxdt> CandyBoy:Googling got me here in the first hit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981  or did you want to build it by source yourself or something else?
[01:12] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: i see... so it's just me... strange... ok, thank you anyway. for now i will just avoid mkv files....
[01:12] <babo> I've downloaded a working torrent, I've burned the iso onto a disk at speed=0, I open the disk and i can see the iso file.
[01:12] <babo> However the disk still isn't bootable ...
[01:12] <lycoris> Hola
[01:12] <nemilar> babo: you burned it wrong ;)
[01:12] <babo> cdrecord -v -speed=0 dev=4,0,0 vista.iso
[01:12] <lycoris> server spanish ubuntu ?
[01:12] <nemilar> babo: you burned the disk as a data disk.  you are supposed to burn a disk image from the ISO file
[01:12] <Shuggle> does anyone know a good program for extracting multipart rars?
[01:12] <nemilar> !es | lycoris
[01:12] <ubotu> lycoris: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:13] <babo> nemilar: how ? I can access the setup.exe file on the burnt disk ...
[01:13] <nemilar> babo: you're going to have to burn another disk
[01:13] <lycoris> thanks ^^
[01:13] <babo> nemilar, if I'd burnt it wrong then i would just see an .iso image on the disk ...
[01:13] <nemilar> babo: I thought that's what you said
[01:13] <babo> nemilar, i can see the setup.exe file inside on the disk, which would suggest that it's burnt correctly no ?
[01:14] <nemilar> babo: yeah I suppose
[01:14] <nemilar> you burnt a disk from an image, right?
[01:14] <nemilar> not just a data disk, copying the ISO over?
[01:14] <Shuggle> nevermind, i got it
[01:14] <putnum> hi does ubuntu have the same auto install feature like gentoo has? I think they call it portage?
[01:15] <nemilar> putnum: yeah, Ubuntu uses APT
[01:15] <nemilar> !apt
[01:15] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:15] <putnum> ahh ok
[01:15] <putnum> it cheaks for dependiances?
[01:15] <ulaf> hey guys, i just ran ntfsresize -s 21G -v /dev/sda1  , i was trying to resize an ntfs partition of 40gigs, and only 19G used.. i was trying to resize it to 21G.. but even though it looks like it resized it, i don't see unallocated space
[01:15] <Starnestommy> putnum: yes
[01:15] <nemilar> putnum: there are graphical add/remove programs, or you can use the command line (Basic format is "apt-get install packagename")
[01:15] <putnum> ok awsome
[01:15] <ulaf> i see only one partition
[01:16] <babo> nemilar, from an iso I took from a torrent ...
[01:16] <babo> that other people seem to think works ...
[01:16] <putnum> does the lastest version of kubuntu come with kde 4.0?
[01:16] <ulaf> i look at the size of my c drive, and it's capacity is 21G's, just like it supposed to be, but i don't see unallocated space when i use disk management
[01:16] <putnum> the dvd image i mean
[01:16] <Starnestommy> putnum: it still has 3.5
[01:16] <putnum> ok
[01:16] <nemilar> babo: what's the iso of?
[01:16] <Moptop650> Hey, im installing xubuntu on my other PC, and its asking me to put in disk labled "Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon _ - Release i386 (10071016)", what disk is that?
[01:16] <babo> nemilar, vista
[01:16] <putnum> how would i install it?
[01:16] <ulaf> anyone use ntfsresize?
[01:17] <nemilar> babo: you're talking about pirating, which is illegal ;)
[01:17] <nemilar> ulaf: does gparted see the unalocated space?
[01:17] <dm_edge> amenado: is there anything else I could try out?
[01:17] <nemilar> babo: go to the store and buy a copy, it'll definitely work fine
[01:17] <ulaf> nemilar: no, it says the capacity of the partition is like 36gigs, and 1.2 allocated space
[01:18] <ulaf> nemilar: not allocated space, i mean free space
[01:18] <nemilar> h/o I'll brb
[01:18] <ulaf> nemilar: there are no free allocatd space, ok
[01:18] <nemilar> craiglist dude is here with my RAM
[01:18] <babo> nemilar, yeah. I didn't get a copy of the last windows operating system that came with my laptop and that installed over with linux. the way i see it, M$ owes me ...
[01:18] <orangefly> why does firefox still tell me i need to install flash after i already have....???....
[01:18] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: mine only chops once at the start of the movie between 00:01 and 00:08 and thats it, no more skips after that thats not a prob to me though
[01:19] <Moptop650> Hey, im installing xubuntu on my other PC, and its asking me to put in disk labled "Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon _ - Release i386 (10071016)", what disk is that? I don't have any other disks >.>
[01:19] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: sorry bout that mate
[01:19] <danielski_pl> how do i stop ubuntu from starting in low graphics mode??
[01:19] <Sambie> Babo, Microsoft owes us all :)
[01:19] <scguy318> !brokenflash | orangefly
[01:19] <ubotu> orangefly: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[01:19] <arooni-mobile> why do i have to re-enable better gmail 2 every time i want to use it?   (firefox extension)
[01:20] <babo> Sambie: yeah. It'll never be able to repay me for IE6. Not even Bill has enough money for that ...
[01:20] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: it's ok. besides mkv is relatively new, right? i just have to be patient... i still have a lot if time...
[01:20] <th3count> problem im having is in sound options, when audio is set to anything besides USBAUDIO no sound works, however when set to USB audio movies and audio play fine but anything through the OS or firefox has no sound.
[01:20] <babo> so what could be wrong with the iso then ?
[01:21] <babo> it's burnt properly but the program just tells me it's not bootable ...
[01:21] <babo> I'm all out of suggestions ...
[01:21] <Sambie> Babo, IWhat exactly happen and what happen to IE6? sorry I just came on my puter not that long ago so I wasn't able to get your story, if you even told one.
[01:21] <Moptop650> Hey, im installing xubuntu on my other PC, and its asking me to put in disk labled "Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon _ - Release i386 (10071016)", what disk is that? I don't have any other disks >.>, Nor will it let me open the cd drive?
[01:21] <babo> Sambie, problem with burning an iso ( which shall remain nameless ).
[01:21] <babo> Sambie, I'm a web developer ...
[01:22] <lilg111111> no sound in gusty
[01:22] <danielski_pl> dhanar_10: its the first time ive heard of .mkv after downloading that LOST ep
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: That is the disk you use to install xubuntu
[01:22] <Moptop650> But its currently in the drive
[01:22] <dm_edge> amenado: are you still there?
[01:22] <Moptop650> If i just press enter for continue, it stalls at "Select and install software please wait (2%)" then goes back to the insert disk.
[01:23] <LibertyShadow> Has anyone else had trouble with the 169.* Nvidia drivers with Xserver freezes
[01:23] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Alternatively, you can comment out the cd from you sources.list file and download the packages from the net
[01:23] <smallfoot-> i have tried alpha4
[01:23] <Moptop650> So.. Do I have to abort the current installation thats going?
[01:23] <smallfoot-> and i can tell you all mens in this channels, that ubuntu 8.40 will be ROX BEST LINUX EVER!!
[01:23] <Sambie> Bobo, Maybe the ISO image that you've downloaded became corrupted?
[01:24] <dhanar_10> danielski_pl: yeah, it is really new and its advantages is it can store any video and audio format + subtitle. i heard that ibm has bought it. um... i think it's getting off topic...
[01:24] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Yes, you would have to.
[01:24] <Moptop650> >.>
[01:24] <hhp2k> <.<
[01:24] <Moptop650> So.. would i have to start another install from scratch/
[01:25] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: What are you trying to install? xubuntu?
[01:25] <Moptop650> yeah
[01:25] <smallfoot-> ubuntu 8.40 hardy heron, will be the best linux ever in the world, its best, i tried it in alpha4, and it has bittorrent ,and cd burning and will have firefox3
[01:25] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: And the machine you're installing xubuntu on is asking for the cd?
[01:25] <dm_edge> could anybody else help me solve my problem? I'm using admtek card (not wireless) and I can't get IP by DHCP, eventhough I got it once after intalling kubuntu
[01:25] <scguy318> I can't say it's the best, else there would be no need for more Ubuntu versions :P
[01:25] <dhanar_10> smallfoot-: firefox3 beta or final?
[01:25] <Moptop650> Yes
[01:25] <bruenig> !ot | smallfoot- stop being obnoxious
[01:25] <ubotu> smallfoot- stop being obnoxious: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:25] <smallfoot-> dhanar_10, it has beta2, but it will have final in 8.40 final release
[01:25] <Moptop650> Its asking for whats already in the drive
[01:26] <ptn107> is anyone else having trouble accessing  packages.ubuntu.com  ??
[01:26] <dhanar_10> smallfoot-: i think it is 8.04....
[01:26] <smallfoot-> whats obnioxous?
[01:26] <Sambie> Yanno nothing is more boring then to talk OS talk to someone who is completely ignorant with the subject. A friend of mine is a Windows lover and thinks that Linux is unstable, I couldn't help but to laugh deep inside.
[01:26] <bruenig> you
[01:26] <smallfoot-> dhanar_10, oh you're right maybe¨
[01:26] <dm_edge> I've pasted ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces
[01:26] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Hmm. that is strange.
[01:26] <smallfoot-> yes, it is 8.04 now i know this
[01:27] <Moptop650> I know >.>
[01:27] <abadtooth> How is 8.04 Alpha4 coming along?
[01:27] <Moptop650> its an OLD comp, 1998 bios.
[01:27] <smallfoot-> when will the countdown for 8.04 start?
[01:27] <Moptop650> Could that be a issue?
[01:27] <smallfoot-> abadtooth, its great
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: What step is the installation on?
[01:27] <abadtooth> smallfoot-: I've tried alpha3 and didn't notice much of anything new..
[01:27] <smallfoot-> abadtooth, it has kernel 2.6.24, it has new audio things called PulseAudio, and it has Transmission bittorrent, and Brasio CD burning
[01:27] <Moptop650> "Select and install software please wait (2%)"
[01:28] <smallfoot-> abadtooth, alpha3 sucks, its very buggy
[01:28] <abadtooth> Yeah, so I read.
[01:28] <Moptop650> Doing the text installion from the alternative CD
[01:28] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Maybe you should just wait... -_-
[01:28] <kapace> hello, i have just booted liveCd in a new computer, and it won't log in
[01:28] <smallfoot-> all who love ubuntu, put your hands in the air!!!
[01:28] <FYI> hello, is there anyway to get past the forced disk check every 25 mounts (it's freezing at a given % for me)
[01:28] <abadtooth> I might have to fire up Deluge and DL Alpha 4 and check it out in VMware
[01:28]  * smallfoot- puts hands in air
[01:28] <kapace> its just stuck at the login screen
[01:29]  * Odd-rationale puts his hands in the air
[01:29] <Moptop650> I pressed enter a few time for Continue on the insert cd window, but it stalls for a few then goes back to it
[01:29] <smallfoot-> damn is only we 2
[01:29] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Hint: you can stick a paper click in the cd drive to force eject.
[01:29]  * abadtooth abadtooth puts both hands in the air!
[01:30] <FYI> Is there anyway tos kip the forced disk check on ubuntu?
[01:30] <abadtooth> whoops, forgot. No need to spell out name..
[01:30] <Moptop650> I dont think this one has that :S
[01:30] <bruenig> FYI, you want to turn it off altogether?
[01:30] <bruenig> or just a one time thing
[01:30] <Moptop650> Yeah it definately doesnt
[01:30] <Moptop650> Then again it could be hidden, the faceplate is missing
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> Moptop650: Looks like your quite stuch then
[01:30] <FYI> bruenig: just a one time thing, I really need access to this computer, but it freezes on the disk check... I was wondering if there was aboot option or something
[01:31]  * abadtooth is going to get a new EeePC in a couple weeks!
[01:31] <Moptop650> Ill just rip the drive open
[01:31]  * Odd-rationale envies abadtooth
[01:31] <bruenig> FYI, if you do touch /fastboot I think that will skip it once
[01:31]  * abadtooth is then going to install Ubuntu on it :D
[01:31] <FYI> bruenig: how do I do that?
[01:31]  * hhp2k envies abadtooth as well
[01:31] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: sorry for being persistent but could you help me solving my network problem, I've been trying to solve it for the past 3 hours but no luck so far
[01:31] <smallfoot-> EeePC have so little screen, only 7" it sux, my computer need 24"
[01:31] <abadtooth> lol
[01:32] <kapace> i can't login in liveCd plz, help :(
[01:32] <smallfoot-> livecd dont ask for login
[01:32] <abadtooth> smallfoot-:  It's not for desktop computing..
[01:32] <kapace> it is for me
[01:32] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Umm not a network expert at all. But what is your problem?
[01:32] <smallfoot-> abadtooth,  then when i go out, i come home and use computer, instead take computer out
[01:32] <geekworx> when i'm trying to install a eggdrop in redhat linux, and i type ./configure i have this error http://pastebin.ca/891983
[01:32] <smallfoot-> geekworx, you must goto #redhat
[01:32] <smallfoot-> geekworx, and #eggdrop
[01:33] <geekworx> smallfoot-: i'm sorry but there nobody is online :S
[01:33] <smallfoot-> oh
[01:33] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale:I can't get an IP address by DHCP, eventhough I got one once, but it stopped getting it after 1st reboot
[01:33] <smallfoot-> try in #lnux
[01:33] <smallfoot-> linux
[01:33] <geekworx> there too :S
[01:33] <geekworx> smallfoot-: can you help me at pvt?
[01:33] <abadtooth> smallfoot-: It's handy to have a small laptop for vacations, or for me when everyone else is trying to sleep..
[01:33] <geekworx> pm me i dont have registered this nickname
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> geekworx: MAybe you need a distro with better support
[01:33] <smallfoot-> geekworx, im noob i dont know linux good, i use windows xp
[01:33] <geekworx> ohh okay
[01:33] <smallfoot-> geekworx, you need install tcl, i think
[01:33] <geekworx> jack-desktop: nope see the error
[01:34] <geekworx> i know but whats the command for install that tcl :S
[01:34] <gverig> Is there a good SSH GUI client (with address book) for Ubuntu?
[01:34] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Are you using the gnome-network-applet? Is the wireless set to roaming or manual?
[01:34] <smallfoot-> geekworx, i dont know, in ubuntu it is 'sudo apt-get install tcl', but i dont nkow in redhat
[01:34] <smallfoot-> geekworx, try 'rpm --help' or 'yum --help' or something
[01:34] <geekworx> -bash-3.00$ apt-get
[01:34] <geekworx> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[01:34] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale:I'm using kubuntu, and using the network applet over there
[01:34] <geekworx> this its rehat :S
[01:35] <mnemonica> Can anyone direct me to a place that I might find "bcmwl15.inf" and "bcmwl15.sys"
[01:35] <smallfoot-> mnemonica, mejbi in windows or google
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> geekworx: Please understand.. this is NOT the place for your questions on redhat anything
[01:35] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: Are you using a dell computer?
[01:35] <geekworx> Jack_Sparrow: okay i'm sorry
[01:35] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: Yes.
[01:35] <mnemonica> smallfoot-: Mejbi is a website?
[01:35] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: Do you know your service tag? (Don't type it here)
[01:36] <eshaase_> i get "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" when i try to install flashplugin-nonfree, any idea how to update the md5sum?
[01:36] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: I'm sure I could find it... should be on my computer somewhere.
[01:36] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: Why?
[01:36] <bruenig> !topic | eshaase_
[01:36] <ubotu> eshaase_: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:36] <eshaase_> ok
[01:36] <smallfoot-> mnemonica, mejbi, but those 2 are files
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> eshaase_: Flash is broken, you need to go to adobe and install it manually if you simply MUST have it
[01:36] <lilg111111> do anybody know how to get the sound working in gusty
[01:36] <FYI> hello, is there anyway to skip the mandatory file check at boot time?
[01:37] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: It's on the bottom
[01:37] <bruenig> FYI, boot into recovery mode
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> FYI: If it errors on the file check.. you should not be installing it
[01:37] <mnemonica> smallfoot-: ... I don't understand what mejbi is.
[01:37] <BaKKaR> hallo, why do i can't browse the php files from my local server ... it loads as a file and my firefox asks me to save it or open it with other application .. the *.php files don' et arsed, why?
[01:37] <overclucker> mnemonica: are you still trying to get broadcom drivers!?!
[01:37] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: OK I use kubuntu, too! Here's something that helped me with my wireless. I went to /etc/network (wiht dolphin as root) and moved all the contents of the folder to the recycle bin (so I could put it back if it didn't work. Reboot.
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mnemonica: Which Dell is that?  I have a few here
[01:37] <mnemonica> overclucker: Yes. I had to go afk for a while.
[01:37] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: You enter your service tag there, download the .exe and extract the .inf, or whatever you need for ndiswrapper
[01:37] <robdig> !sound | lilg111111:
[01:37] <ubotu> lilg111111:: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:37] <smallfoot-> mnemonica, maybe
[01:37] <mnemonica> Jack_Sparrow: Dell Inspiron 640m
[01:38] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: I'm using a wired network, does it still apply?
[01:38] <eshaase_> ok, i guess i'll wait for flash, so later on when this is fixed, i should be able to do this: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"?
[01:38] <FYI> bruenig: I will try that
[01:38] <BaKKaR> !php BaKKaR
[01:38] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: Interesting.. I'll try that out and get back to you.
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php bakkar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <mnemonica> Jack_Sparrow: Any advice?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mnemonica: I have a C640 .. but
[01:38] <kapace> BaKKaR: where are you browsing
[01:39] <kapace> file:// or http?
[01:39] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: also, what's dolphin:) I'm sorry but I'm a total noob
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mnemonica: Sorry had to answer the phone
[01:39] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[01:39] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: IDK. Like I said, I'm not a network expert. you could try. If it doesn't work. just put all the files back and you will be right where you started.
[01:39] <lackli> !streamtuner
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about streamtuner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <lackli> is there a way to export streamtuner bookmarks?
[01:39] <BaKKaR> kapace: http://localhost/ and when i try to load any php file it doesn't get parsed
[01:39] <smallfoot-> UBUNTU IS THE BEST LINUX IN WORLD! ROX FUK YEH!! ALL GOTO DOWNLOADING UBUNTU, BECOS ITS THE BEST LINUX, NOBODY IS BETTER, ITS BETTER THAN WINDOWS, CUZ WINDOWS IS SUX AND UBUNTU IS THE BEST, ITS BETTER THAN GENTOO BECAUSE GENTOO TAKE MANY DAYS TO INSTALL, UBUNTU ONLY 10 MINS!!
[01:39] <smallfoot-> UBUNTU IS THE BEST LINUX IN WORLD! ROX FUK YEH!! ALL GOTO DOWNLOADING UBUNTU, BECOS ITS THE BEST LINUX, NOBODY IS BETTER, ITS BETTER THAN WINDOWS, CUZ WINDOWS IS SUX AND UBUNTU IS THE BEST, ITS BETTER THAN GENTOO BECAUSE GENTOO TAKE MANY DAYS TO INSTALL, UBUNTU ONLY 10 MINS!!
[01:39] <smallfoot-> UBUNTU IS THE BEST LINUX IN WORLD! ROX FUK YEH!! ALL GOTO DOWNLOADING UBUNTU, BECOS ITS THE BEST LINUX, NOBODY IS BETTER, ITS BETTER THAN WINDOWS, CUZ WINDOWS IS SUX AND UBUNTU IS THE BEST, ITS BETTER THAN GENTOO BECAUSE GENTOO TAKE MANY DAYS TO INSTALL, UBUNTU ONLY 10 MINS!!
[01:39] <kapace> hmm
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mnemonica: Do what liberty said
[01:39] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale:alright I'll go try it, thanks:)
[01:40] <emma> !OPS
[01:40] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: He is long gone.. please dont feed the troll
[01:40] <emma> I didn't know he was long gone.
[01:40] <lackli> i've been looking for a file with the streamtuner bookmarks, so i can export then to rythmbox
[01:40] <lackli> i guess i have to copy it over manually
[01:41] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: To open dolphin as root do alt + f2 then "kdesudo dolphin" but be REALLY careful when you browse file as root.!
[01:41] <emma> I just bought a Maxtor 500 GB external hard drive. Do I have to do anything special with it, to make it work correctly with Ubuntu?
[01:41] <emma> It would seem, maybe, that it is in NTFS format?
[01:41] <BaKKaR> any body would give me some time to help me get my php server up?
[01:41] <fumanchu> light some candles ¿?
[01:42] <Odd-rationale> emma: Ubuntu can read/write ntfs
[01:42] <fumanchu> xD
[01:42] <BaKKaR> my php files are not parsed, they load as a file firefox asks me to save it
[01:42] <kapace> BaKKaR: can you use your php scripts externally?
[01:42] <kapace> try using your ip to use your scripts
[01:42] <Tonren> If I install firefox-3.0, will I still be able to run 2.0?  Will 3.0 change my 2.0 install in any way?
[01:42] <BaKKaR> kapace: when i browse the www everythin is OK, but for example torrentflux is not workin when runnin from my localhost
[01:43] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, you should install php
[01:43] <danielski_pl> getting really sick of this problem with my ubuntu, might just leave my computer on till the update of 8.04
[01:43] <kapace> check what localhost maps to
[01:43] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: i have php mysql and apache all installed
[01:43] <kapace> lol after two ubuntu livecd boots, then ubuntu doesn't ask me for a user/apss
[01:43] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, something about php is missing
[01:43] <fumanchu> some apache-php module
[01:43] <kapace> localhost might be mapped to file://
[01:44] <BaKKaR> kapace and fumanchu when i try to load them i am usin the http:// protocol
[01:44] <emma> Odd-rationale,  but do I want it to?
[01:45] <danielski_pl> should i just download 7.10 and reinstall since ubuntu is giving me a hard time atm, it keeps booting in low graphics mode and i cant play 3d games WTF??
[01:45] <fumanchu> BaKKaR,  libapache2-mod-php5
[01:46] <kapace> can i use restricted drivers with liveCD?
[01:46] <Odd-rationale> emma: That is really your choice. NTFS /read/write is quite stable now imo. Just be careful when you name a file. You can put ":" in ubuntu but not in windows.
[01:46] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: will try that now
[01:46] <FYI> bruenig: I tried booting in recovery mode, but it freezes at something like pins, apic etc.... when I try booting with acpi=off it gets stopped at some IRQ stuff
[01:46] <ConstyXIV> can ubuntu do full-disk encryption?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: Have you edited xorg or gone through the restricted modules routine
[01:46] <emma> Okay I don't think I've ever used : in a file name. I think I might be the only person who still uses _ instead of spaces.
[01:46] <Thurin1> ConstyXIV: If Debian can, Ubuntu can.
[01:46] <fatejudger> Recently, GDM seems to be taking several minutes to load. It's outputting this log: http://pastebin.com/d4a126cf2 Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:47] <Thurin1> ConstyXIV: You really need to look at the Kernel you are using rather than the 'distro'
[01:47] <Thurin1> ConstyXIV: I believe that the Ubuntu kernel has support for it though.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> I thouhgt the enctyption was a new feature in gutsy.
[01:47] <FYI> is there anyway to do that fastboot from grub command line?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> But not tried it yet. :)
[01:47] <danielski_pl> Jack_Sparrow: edited xorg, no restricted modules cant see my card anymore if it does it wont start the drivers it just ends up restartin gnome
[01:48] <Odd-rationale> emma: I had a big problem with special characters in file names. And for a while a couldn't figure out why I could not open a folder under windows. Learned the lesson the hard way.
[01:48] <Thurin1> But if someone is that concerned about their security.. they might as well use BSD instead of Ubuntu, but that's another story ;D
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: What video card?
[01:48] <danielski_pl> nVidia 8500GT
[01:48] <emma> I see.
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: The 8000 series seem to have some problems...  All I can suggest is the wiki and read carefully
[01:49] <danielski_pl> tried everything in the wiki
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: You will end up going to nvidia for the drivers and building them.. from what I understand
[01:50] <danielski_pl> done that
[01:50] <danielski_pl> didnt work
[01:50] <FYI> alright, trying to boot from a live cd now
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: I know people running them and they work..  but not plug and play by a long shot
[01:50] <danbhfive> are there local ubuntu groups?
[01:50] <desteven> gparted says 'Unable to detect filesystem' and e2fsck says something about bad super-blocks although I can mount this disk, anyone know how to solve this?
[01:51] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: I did it, but now I don't have any adapters when I do ifconfig except for lo
[01:51] <danbhfive> desteven: sounds like a bad harddrive, i would say replace the drive
[01:51] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: Are you sure that the bcmwl15 driver is there? I don't see ti.
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Have you reboot?
[01:52] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale:yeah, but /etc/network/ is still empty
[01:52] <desteven> it definitely isn't a bad hard drive, surface scan didn't give any errors
[01:52] <danbhfive> desteven: unless its new, you could reformat, this is just my opinions though
[01:52] <danielski_pl> Jack_Sparrow: i installed restricted drivers when ubuntu was fresh and they worked perfectly after installing compiz-fusion and screenlets and some ubuntu themes things started to F***k up
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Ok sorry, I gues it didn't work. Just restore the fileback again...
[01:52] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: Hold on one sec
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> danielski_pl: If that is where is messed up.. try asking in #Compiz
[01:52] <robdig> danbhfive: the list of "official" local groups is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[01:53] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: sure no prob, any other ideas?
[01:53] <danbhfive> thanks robdig
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Not atm
[01:53] <desteven> their are many files on it which I didn't backup, so can't reformat, maybe I should resize and start moving the files to a new partition on the free space?
[01:53] <robdig> danbhfive: np
[01:53] <d33d> Hey, anyone know why I would have a horrible ssh connection (extremely slow) after a dist-upgrade?
[01:53] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R151517.EXE
[01:54] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: by the way, what is the command to rerun scripts? I mean if I change etc/network/interfaces there should be a cmd that make linux run scripts again
[01:54] <LibertyShadow> in a terminal change to the directory where you download it
[01:54] <desteven> btw fdisk says it's gpt, don't know how that happened
[01:54] <LibertyShadow>  >> unzip -a R151517.EXE <<
[01:54] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: What is it?
[01:54] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: Don;t know. sorry.
[01:54] <dm_edge> Odd-rationale: alright, thanks anyways:)
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> dm_edge: np
[01:55] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: That is the exe that you would extract in windows to do the installation... it has bcmwl5.inf in it.... that is what you are looking for correct?
[01:56] <mnemonica> LibertyShadow: Yeah. Thanks for the help.
[01:56] <praveen_> hw to extract a sentences which has a particular word in it ?
[01:56] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: You could also right click on the exe and "Extract here" if you prefer the gui solution
[01:56] <praveen_> from a file
[01:56] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: but what you are looking for is in the "DRIVER" directory
[01:56] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: np
[01:57] <LibertyShadow> mnemonica: good luck
[01:57] <xenthro> Q: is there a command line image viewer?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> LibertyShadow: that is a 52 meg download ouch
[01:57] <min> hmm..
[01:57] <FYI> how do I mount my hd from the live cd?
[01:58] <d33d> Hey, anyone know why I would have a horrible ssh connection (extremely slow) ?
[01:58] <min> quit
[01:58] <d33d> Hey, anyone know why I would have a horrible ssh connection (extremely slow) ? - Sorry for repeat (to a remote server).
[01:58] <speedcore> d33d I got the same problem
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[01:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:58] <d33d> speedcore,  any fix ?
[01:58] <sovietn00b> any good way to respin ubuntu?
[01:58] <LibertyShadow> Jack_Sparrow, I would upload the DRIVER directory to a web location, but I think people prefer to download from dell's official sight rather than a personal http directory...
[01:58] <speedcore> I dunno...  Check the /etc/ssh/ssh_config if compression is on
[01:58] <Johnuah> I wanna a cheap Linux Kernal laptop, can anyone give me some advices?
[01:59] <speedcore> d33d: compression is only good for weak links between fast computers
[01:59] <d33d> speedcore, I think i just figured it out.
[01:59] <speedcore> d33d: what was the problem?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the filename on the driver..
[01:59] <sovietn00b> Johnuah: System76, Dell are your best bets, or install Linux after you buy cheap Windows Laptop
[01:59] <speedcore> d33d: I'm tunneling samba over ssh and it's much slower than it should be
[01:59] <d33d> speedcore, DNS servers on my machine here were finding the right ones i believe
[01:59] <LibertyShadow> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.skidmore.edu/~vnewell/driver/
[02:00] <toc2rta> Best bittorrent for ubuntu ?
[02:00] <FYI> Liberty shadow, you live in saratoga county?
[02:00] <d33d> speedcore, (not remote machine)
[02:00] <desteven> !fstab
[02:00] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:00] <speedcore> d33d: so before you did a too long path of routers?
[02:00] <LibertyShadow> FYI mebe
[02:00] <desteven> !partitions
[02:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:00] <FYI> libertyShadow: I goto school across the river :)
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> LibertyShadow: thanks
[02:00] <FYI> and south
[02:00] <FYI> :p
[02:00] <xenthro> toc2rta too many to mention ktorrent/deluge/azureus/qtorrent/qbittorrent/rtorrent/fluxtorrent there are so many
[02:01] <Johnuah> sovietn00b: Thankyou , but i am not sure if there is a laptop priced less than $200??
[02:01] <speedcore> d33d: you know any tips on speeding up ssh tunnels? any way?
[02:01] <abadtooth>  
[02:01] <LibertyShadow> FYI sweet man, is that hudson valley?
[02:01] <sovietn00b> Johnuah: If you can scrunge a bit more, look at the ASUS EEE
[02:01] <FYI> indeed
[02:02] <sovietn00b> Johnuah: Its about 299 for low model, 399 for high model, linux preinstalled, flash memory, biult in wifi
[02:02] <d33d> speedcore, I am behind a firewall and I have to use a certain dns server (port through the firewall) to connect. Well, I guess I have to set my dns server to the firewall ip. and it works just fine ---- kinda.
[02:02] <Johnuah> Some guy said  that the function of EEE is not enough.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> I want an Asus eee - but im finding full laptops in a similer price range now a days. :)
[02:02] <Dr_willis> But i dont have $300 anyway. heh.
[02:02] <LibertyShadow> Jack_Sparrow lol I havent chmodded
[02:02] <jack-desktop> if i'm using "vncviewer -listen", how do i accept the connection and try to control the desktop afterwards?
[02:02] <orangefly> i just added a partition....how do i change the permissions so i can write to it....???....
[02:02] <Dr_willis> EEE is a bit of a specilized item. Depends on your needs.
[02:02] <d33d> speedcore, course it just slowed way down again. Dangit -- just doing a sudo apt-get upgrade....weird maybe a reboot is needed.
[02:02] <FYI> jack_sparrow: I am trying to mount, but my harddrive isn't in mtab and fstab
[02:03] <sovietn00b> Dr_Willis: Johnuah: True, EEE is a bit limited, bit half computer, half smartphone
[02:03] <testfire> Hey guys, I cannot add/remove files from my flash drive unless I'm root, how can I fix this?
[02:03] <LibertyShadow> Jack_Sparrow fixed :D
[02:03] <desteven> qtparted and gparted don't recognize the filesystem on my disk although I can mount it, what's wrong?
[02:03] <sovietn00b> testfire: as root, change permissions under properties
[02:03] <Dr_willis> jack-desktop,  from what i am reading in the vncviewer manual only some clients support that feature. Ive never used it.
[02:04] <Johnuah> sovietn00b: The EEE pc does really attract me but I 'm wondering whether it will satisfy me or not on normal usage.
[02:04] <sovietn00b> johnuah: what are your needs?
[02:04] <Scorchin> I'm running Gutsy and can't mount my NTFS drive to be readable. Here's what I've got my fstab set to at the moment for it:
[02:04] <Scorchin> /dev/hda1  /media/Omega  ntfs  umask=0002  0  0
[02:04] <Scorchin> any ideas why it's not working?
[02:04] <testfire> sovietn00b:  Thats another thing, I change them and immediately they change back (In other they cannot be changed either.)
[02:04] <Dr_willis> jack-desktop,  actually only some Vnc SERVERS support the reverse/listen feature it seems.
[02:05] <BaKKaR> why do i get this error >> " apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> LibertyShadow: Good to know
[02:05] <dm_edge> Is there anyone that knows how to solve network problems in ubuntu? I've been trying for hours to set up my network connection though nothing works. There was an internet connection once after installation, and after installing nvidia drivers I couldn't get an IP address by DHCP ever again, does anyone have an idea? I'm running kubuntu 7, and using admtek card (wired network)
[02:05] <Johnuah> sovietn00b: The most I'm care of is the rather small flash memory
[02:05] <jack-desktop> Dr_willis, thanks for the info
[02:05] <speedcore> I think the EEE PC with an 3G modem... and VNC or SSH ...  to normal workstation or server.. is the sexiest of uses
[02:05] <toc2rta> Jack_sparrow ? i require ur assistance
[02:05] <Dr_willis> jack-desktop,  vnc is a very very flexiable system. There may be other ways to do what you are trying to do (whatever that is) :)
[02:05] <sovietn00b> Johnuah: get a couple of USB drives
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> toc2rta: I dont have much time, I am about to go to dinner
[02:06] <Johnuah> It limitts me to store my inportant files on it, eg, pics, movies, mp3
[02:06] <speedcore> Johnuah: Tunnel huge drives from the internet...
[02:06] <testfire> How do I format my USB flash drive?
[02:06] <AndreL> Alguma Brazuka na sala?
[02:07] <AndreL>  8-)
[02:07] <speedcore> it's very easy to stream mp3's and movies and such... more networks.. for use with an eee pc
[02:07] <toc2rta> Dr_Willis,Jack_sparrow , i know this channel isn't a place for PPC users but i strongly need help getting firefox to work with java
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Im suprised there is not some 'online storage' company working with asus/eee to  have online drives with it.
[02:07] <AndreL> me use Opera chat
[02:07] <Dr_willis> toc2rta,  My experience with ppc is bad.. the imac is now in the closet.
[02:07] <toc2rta> ok
[02:07] <sovietn00b> Johnuah:set up a mybook drive to take in the laptop bagg.....there's space considering its EEE ;-)
[02:07] <speedcore> toc2rta: I can't help you... but what computer do you run ubuntu on? old mac?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> toc2rta: I cant help with ppc... I simply dont have any answers
[02:07] <Johnuah> sovietn00b: Can I mod the EEEpc to enlarge the memory storage
[02:07] <AndreL> Brasileiros na sala?
[02:08] <sovietn00b> Johnuah: Check on that
[02:08] <sovietn00b> Im not sure
[02:08] <toc2rta> ehh actually
[02:08] <toc2rta> on my PS3
[02:08] <LibertyShadow> testfire: can't you use gparted, and just change the device in the upper right hand corner
[02:08] <Dr_willis> Johnuah,  some of them can be.. some cant.   from what i see on the eee forums
[02:08] <[1]panfist> i am having an issue with grub. according to my BIOS i am booting off of the secondary slave which is where linux is installed. grub is installed on this drive but by default will not boot my OS. i have to change the root drive everytime from hd3,0 to hd0,0, even though that partition doesnt have an OS on it
[02:08] <speedcore> Johnua: Flashcards are cheap.
[02:08] <speedcore> toc2rta...  ps3.. wow that's CELL
[02:08] <testfire> LibertyShadow:  I tried that, but it doesn't reset the permissions
[02:09] <toc2rta> yes
[02:09] <toc2rta> PPC(64)
[02:09] <speedcore> isn't the cell pretty diffrent from the G5...  core usage wise
[02:09] <toc2rta> i have the latest java installed but can't get it working with java
[02:09] <dxdt> I wouldn't buy the Asus EEpc right now.  I've heard interesting things from EE profs at the university that newer models may be coming using newer, lower power screens based off of new patents and such.
[02:09] <toc2rta> its possible though
[02:09] <levander> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[02:10] <toc2rta> i never used G5 or a mac before
[02:10] <borisattva> noe. works for me
[02:10] <dxdt> levander:
[02:10] <dxdt> levander: no
[02:10] <toc2rta> this is mt first time using linux or PPC
[02:10] <speedcore> ok..
[02:10] <sovietn00b> dxdt:never buy the first of anything, too risky (wii strap, any1?)
[02:10] <praveen> my menu bar is hidden in x-chat hw do i restore it ?
[02:10] <levander> I had to Ctrl-F5.  Seems to be downloading now...
[02:10] <borisattva> does anyone know why would the gnome terminal randomly stop receiving keyboard input when telnetting into BBSs?
[02:10] <speedcore> toc2rta: run any benchmarks on it... is it fast? compared to a pc?
[02:10] <dxdt> sovietn00b: lol.  I suppose so.  I'm OK with early adoption, but I usually don't have the dollars for it :-/
[02:10] <fatejudger> When I boot up ubuntu, my ntfs partition is no longer being mounted. Then, when I try to manually mount it, fuse tells me that the "device or resource is busy". Does anyone know what's going on?
[02:10] <JFactor> can anyone help me set up my s-video tv out?\
[02:11] <BaKKaR> can anyone tell me when i try to start apache2 i get this error, why? " apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[02:11] <harushimo> I have a quick question
[02:11] <sovietn00b> anyone used Ubuntu Customization kit?
[02:11] <toc2rta> Its as fast as a windows XP with a 1gig memory sitkc
[02:11] <BaKKaR> sovietn00b: yeah i did.
[02:11] <toc2rta> its reliable
[02:11] <harushimo> I have external hard drive which is formatted in NTFS. I can copy/write files to that hard drive
[02:11] <sovietn00b> bakkar:is it good?
[02:12] <harushimo> that's my question
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> harushimo: Yes.
[02:12] <BaKKaR> sovietn00b: very handy i would say.
[02:12] <sovietn00b> thankyou
[02:12] <BaKKaR> sovietn00b: for n00bs :)
[02:12] <speedcore> toc2rta: ok cool
[02:12] <harushimo> it won't cause any problems because I never done this before. I just want to make sure
[02:12] <speedcore> toc2rta: good luck
[02:12] <JusticeZero> Hi, I need to shut down the X server to install the Nvidia driver (having graphics issues, new install, want to see if using Nvidia's driver helps) What do I do to do that so I can run the driver install?
[02:13] <quittt> is there a GUI for bible application?
[02:13] <sovietn00b> BaKKaR: you're in 8th grade, and have 1 night to make it happen, easy way out's fine :/
[02:13] <cheesypieces> guys, can anyone suggest a good LDAP media server program, or PS3 media server?
[02:13] <quittt> !bible
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bible - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <quittt> ...
[02:13] <BaKKaR> JusticeZero: o > sudo init 3 .. and then run the NVidia binary
[02:14] <JusticeZero> OK, thanks Bakkar.
[02:14] <BaKKaR> JusticeZero: or better off, Ubuntu utsy installs that by defult
[02:14] <BaKKaR> *gutsy
[02:14] <WeedGrinch> Check out #Ubuntu-Modding!
[02:14] <WeedGrinch> :)
[02:14] <harushimo> another question if I add a hard drive to ubuntu, will it automatically get detected?
[02:14] <WeedGrinch> Will your computer detect ubuntu on it?
[02:14] <JusticeZero> Er. I don't know that it has.
[02:14] <BaKKaR> harushimo: i have ubuntu gutsy .. and yes it does.
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> harushimo: It should
[02:14] <WeedGrinch> Yea it shuld
[02:15] <WeedGrinch> Mine always has
[02:15] <JFactor> !tvout
[02:15] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:15] <BaKKaR> harushimo: every drive i plug it .. i found it to be automatically mounted read-write
[02:15] <harushimo> ok
[02:15] <speedcore> is SSH compression ON in ubuntu by default?
[02:15] <JusticeZero> Okay, well, it installed -a- nVidia driver... Last time I was fighting with a similar issue, it seemed the one Ubuntu installed wasn't the latest.
[02:15] <WeedGrinch> !ssh
[02:15] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:15] <heatmzzr> ok, trying to get dvds to play, installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, am i missing something?
[02:16] <Odd-rationale> BaKKaR: except for ext3 surprisingly
[02:16] <quittt> let's dance on the volcano!
[02:16] <harushimo> last question, how I reformat the drive to fat32 in ubuntu
[02:16] <BaKKaR> Odd-rationale: i have tried only vfat fat32 and ntfs :-)
[02:16] <harushimo> because its an ntfs format
[02:16] <JFactor> Does anyone know how to get the s-video working in gutsy with an nvidia 6150 card
[02:16] <WeedGrinch> Why do you want fat32?
[02:16] <Odd-rationale> BaKKaR: Those automounts fine with read/write support
[02:16] <WeedGrinch> !s-video
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s-video - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <WeedGrinch> !svideo
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <WeedGrinch> stupid bot :@
[02:17] <Odd-rationale> harushimo: I would keep it ntfs
[02:17] <BaKKaR> JusticeZero: this is th open-source driver .. try the NVidia binary closed-srouse one.
[02:17] <JFactor> I have been trying to get this to work for about a month now
[02:17] <BaKKaR> !nvidia JusticeZero
[02:17] <harushimo> oh okay...then
[02:17] <JFactor> My resolution has been screwed up many times because of it
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> harushimo: With fat32 you have a file limit of about 4 gb
[02:18] <harushimo> yeah I forgot about that
[02:18] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, did it work ?
[02:18] <sovietn00b> anyone know is Ubuntu Customization Kit works w/ 64-bit isos?
[02:18] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: yeah, i found that lib installed already
[02:18] <harushimo> this drive be installed in my computer thats why I asked
[02:19] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: but when i tried to browse it like http://127.0.1.1 it worked :)
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> harushimo: Also fat32 requires fragments more than ntfs
[02:19] <Johnuah> sovietn00b: Sorry , I'm offline for minutes/
[02:19] <harushimo> true
[02:19] <JFactor> I cant see the light
[02:19] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: i have tried this after noticing this error >> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:19] <JFactor> !gutsy
[02:19] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, you should check /etc/hosts
[02:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[02:20] <WeedGrinch> !hardy
[02:20] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:20] <fumanchu> it doesn't affect apache though
[02:21] <rikkimaru> how do i figure out what X display I'm in
[02:21] <rikkimaru> ?
[02:21] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: it is right 127.0.0.1 locat host >>> 127.0.1.1 linuxbox (the name i have choosed for the host)
[02:21] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: so it seems riht
[02:21] <JFactor> !ubotu
[02:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:21] <BaKKaR> :-/
[02:22] <fumanchu> rikkimaru, try who
[02:22] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, never mind that.. only if it really bothers you :P
[02:23] <rikkimaru> fumanchu: which number is the display..?
[02:23] <JFactor> Does anyone know anyone who knows how to deal with s-video issues?
[02:23] <fumanchu> :0
[02:23] <fumanchu> :!
[02:23] <fumanchu> 1
[02:23] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: at least now it does work :) .. but nothin out of the /var/www/ works
[02:24] <Starfish> I just dist-upgraded to Gutsy, and I seem to have lost a bunch of things, namely audio functionality and video ability
[02:24] <fumanchu> " but nothin out of the /var/www/ works " what do you mean
[02:25] <macabro22> galera
[02:25] <frederik> g
[02:26] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: when i try to run eyeOS from within the /var/www/eyeOS/indexphp it runs fine ... but from anyother directory won't
[02:26] <fumanchu> another directory like ......
[02:26] <quittt> what is name of the light mozilla-basead browser?
[02:27] <macabro22> guys I've been trying all day to compile and install the latest alsa module
[02:27] <silent_> quittt: your hair smells fantastic
[02:27] <JusticeZero> OK, now i'm stuck with minimum graphics, can't get my graphics working right again, and I never did get out of X to install the Nvidia driver..
[02:27] <macabro22> can someone help me with this?
[02:28] <JusticeZero> "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig', which is also in package nvidia-xconfig"
[02:28] <JFactor> Ubuntu does not recognize my S-Video can anyone help?
[02:28] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: like /usr/share/wordpress/index.pho won't run and give me the same error again
[02:28] <fumanchu> macabro22, why compile alsa
[02:28] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, check the user permission
[02:28] <JFactor> !ubuntu
[02:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:28] <macabro22> fumanchu: the repo version doesnt work properly with my laptop sound card
[02:28] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, to the folder
[02:29] <Ububegin> where can i find *.vimrc file... i cant seem to find in my home directory...i used ls -la command..but its still not there...
[02:29] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, should be www-data
[02:29] <macabro22> fumanchu, can please help me solve a problem?
[02:29] <silent_> fumanchu: you compile alsa only if your hair gives off a tantalizing scent. In your case, compile.
[02:29] <macabro22> fumanchu:  http://www.pastebin.ca/892014
[02:29] <fumanchu> silent_, what? x)
[02:29] <macabro22> fumanchu: it seems ubuntu is loading the old module
[02:30] <danonura> hello. if i type "java -version" in terminal i get  (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode). does a symbolic link need to be created?
[02:30] <fumanchu> macabro22, what ubuntu version
[02:30] <fumanchu> r u using
[02:30] <macabro22> fumanchu: I need to remove the old one and then install the one I just compiled. Ubuntu Gutsy
[02:31] <macabro22> fumanchu: the problem is I am not sure which file to remove
[02:31] <jeezmos> I'm trying to set up my "trackball explorer 2.0" in ubuntu.  First question ... after editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf, doing CTRL+ALT+Backspace will restart X and load the changes I made, right?
[02:31] <fumanchu> macabro22, don't remove, rename
[02:31] <kiba> hello
[02:31] <kiba> how to avoid a fsck check?
[02:31] <fumanchu> kiba,  /etc/fstab
[02:31] <Ububegin> danonura: hmm, for my case, i tried compiling and running a hello world .... U have change classpath, dats all...
[02:31] <pygmymath> jeezmos: aye thats right
[02:31] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: ok had it setup Group www-data and had read and write permission, no change
[02:31] <Mike689> #gamesurge
[02:31] <pygmymath> jeezmos: remember startx if it dies on you hegh
[02:31] <joe-f> how can i change my systems time?
[02:32] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, what does it say, exactly
[02:32] <joe-f> its off by 5 min
[02:32] <fumanchu> 403?
[02:32] <kiba> ?
[02:32] <Ububegin> where can i find *.vimrc file... i cant seem to find in my home directory...i used ls -la command..but its still not there...
[02:32] <macabro22> fumanchu: ok, but which one
[02:32] <heatmzzr> ok, trying to get dvds to play, installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread, am i missing something?
[02:32] <novato_br> poxa o povo do brasil tem q parar com essa mania de comprar lixo pra revender aki
[02:32] <heatmzzr> what am i missing
[02:33] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: firefox opens a dialouge box askin me to save the *.php file or open it with another applicaion, default firefox .. i press open with firefox .. same happens again like a loop
[02:33] <astro76> Ububegin: there isn't one by default, create one
[02:33] <astro76> Ububegin: also you might want to install vim-full if you haven't already
[02:33] <jnascimento> Ububegin: try find ./ -name "*.vimrc"
[02:33] <fumanchu> macabro22, is that the latest kernel for gutsy?
[02:33] <pygmymath> heatmzzr: go into the gnome-app-install (add/remove programs) look under the sound / video section and download everything to do with gstreamer codecs
[02:33] <pygmymath> heatmzzr: check out the other section aswell for anything dvd related
[02:34] <heatmzzr> ok
[02:34] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, oh.. thought you fixed that..
[02:34] <Ububegin> astro76 : k, hmm... i will create one and try
[02:34] <BaKKaR> Ububegin: a ood thin to use locate if it your first time do >> sudo locate -u then locate *.vimrc
[02:34] <jeezmos> k.  it's a 7-button mouse, but using "xev" it seems only 5 are recognised ... the back/forward buttons are using the same button # as the right-click and middle-click buttons.  This is the case no matter how many buttons I tell xorg.conf to look for.  any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[02:35] <kiba> uhh
[02:35] <kiba> how to avoid fsck check?
[02:35] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: it is fixed, when i run the php files from within /var/www/what-ever ... but not anyother location!
[02:35] <quittt> !k-meleon
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k-meleon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <JusticeZero> I wish there was a 'throw up my hands and let the wizard try to heal the system' utility.
[02:35] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, that's apache's config..
[02:35] <fumanchu> take a look at gugle for that one
[02:36] <fumanchu> kiba, you mean on boot fsck?
[02:36] <BaKKaR> gugle? is that google?
[02:36] <fumanchu> xD
[02:36] <jetscreamer> touch /forcefsck
[02:36] <danonura>  Ububegin:thanks.i'll look that up.i can't run java applets from webcams etc.i've followed several manuals at ubuntu forums and geek etc but still can't get it. maybe what you mentioned is the problem.
[02:36] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, xD yes
[02:36] <jetscreamer> or shutdown -Fr now
[02:36] <kiba> yes when it boot up, fumanchu
[02:36] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: lol, ok thanks
[02:36] <fumanchu> sorry.. misspelled it
[02:36] <BaKKaR> :)
[02:36] <fumanchu> kiba check /etc/fstab
[02:36] <kiba> there
[02:36] <fumanchu> the last 0 0
[02:37] <BaKKaR> fumanchu: no worries, thank you mate
[02:37] <macabro22> fumanchu: I suppose so
[02:37] <fumanchu> 0 1
[02:37] <fumanchu> put 0 0 to skip fsck
[02:37] <scolytus> hi all! I've just set up Ubuntu 7.10 Server. There was a Bug writing GRUB/MBR. What do you need for a bug-report?
[02:37] <kiba> the last 0 1?
[02:37] <fumanchu> BaKKaR, np
[02:37] <Ububegin> danonura : oh, in ur case, look up jvm... i think its all that line..
[02:37] <Tonren> Somene please help me stop Firefox from crashing again.
[02:37] <faintofhearts> Anyone know how to force compiz-fusion to use metacity instead of emerald?
[02:37] <fumanchu> kiba, of the partition you want to skip
[02:37] <Tonren> I think it's mostly with Flash.
[02:37] <Cpudan80> Hey guys
[02:37] <kiba> 0 0 is skip?
[02:37] <Cpudan80> Quick question
[02:37] <fumanchu> kiba yes
[02:38] <Cpudan80> Is it possible to remote mount a EXT3 partition?
[02:38] <Ububegin> Tonren: maybe can try the #firefox channel...
[02:38] <danonura> Ububegin:in google? or repositories?
[02:38] <innertruth> faintofhearts: metacity --replace
[02:38] <toc2rta> Ubuntu is the best !
[02:38] <quittt> !office
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about office - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <toc2rta> damn no need for me to buy windows anymore
[02:38] <Cpudan80> I would have to SSH to a box to login before I could remote mount it.... could I do all that in fstab?
[02:38] <Tonren> Ububegin: Thanks, I'll try.
[02:38] <quittt> do you know a good Office application that is not heavy as OpenOffice
[02:38] <innertruth> quittt: AbiWord
[02:39] <fumanchu> quittt, abiword gnumeric
[02:39] <fumanchu> koffice
[02:39] <fumanchu> if you're running kde
[02:39] <Cathartics> hi rullie
[02:39] <quittt> oh
[02:39] <Cathartics> What's going on?
[02:40] <Cathartics> How do you know how many people are on here?
[02:40] <Cathartics> Where is the list?
[02:40] <Cathartics> wow really are there 1127 users here?
[02:41] <fumanchu> kiba, http://man.he.net/man5/fstab
[02:41] <Ububegin> danonura: maybe google or can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java ...
[02:41] <fumanchu> check 6th field
[02:41] <Cathartics> I'm just really new to this UBUNTU arena, but so far so good i'm loving it.
[02:41] <toc2rta> i click on the Azureus icon but it doesn't open ?
[02:42] <Cathartics> It's crystal clean and so easier.
[02:42] <danonura> Ububegin:k thanks
[02:42] <Cathartics> The only problem i had was with the installation.
[02:42] <Cathartics> phew!
[02:43] <Ububegin> Cathartics : welcome to ubuntooing...
[02:43] <Cathartics> Thank you so much, I'd really appreciate that warm welcome.
[02:43] <Cathartics> How you been doing ubub?
[02:43] <icolt45> hi
[02:43] <Malaz> Noob question: How would I go about upgrading SDL to a later version (than 1.2.11)?
[02:43] <jetscreamer> install a later version
[02:44] <Malaz> How would I go about installing a later version of SDL (than 1.2.11)?
[02:44] <Cathartics> And it's really cool that people can share each other's problem here that's what i call a 24/7 tech support.
[02:44] <Makuseru> hi, maybe someone can help me, im trying to run ePSXe, but when i try to open an ISO i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54803/ can anyone help?
[02:44] <icolt45> <<<just killed windows installed ubuntu 7.1 "I like it!"
[02:44] <Cathartics> Oh yeah icolt.
[02:44] <Cathartics> I did the same.
[02:45] <Cathartics> I love ubuntu now.
[02:45] <icolt45> 65
[02:45] <icolt45> ^5
[02:45] <Malaz> We need a different channel for spamming how awesome ubuntu is...
[02:45] <Cathartics> haha. lol.
[02:45] <mike__> Test
[02:45] <Cathartics> I'm sorry.
[02:45] <astro76> Malaz: it's #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[02:45] <Yasumoto> mike__: you're good
[02:45] <mike__> I am so new to this.... cool
[02:45] <icolt45> lol me to
[02:46] <mike__> how can I find a place to ask ? about ubuntu
[02:46] <astro76> mike__: you're in it
[02:46] <WeedGrinch> lol
[02:46] <mike__> just wanted to check :)
[02:46] <WeedGrinch> Ask away my friend
[02:46] <WeedGrinch> :)
[02:46] <Malaz> So, upgrade SDL, how do I do it?  Anyone want to help?
[02:46] <Cathartics> I guess they need to program this IRC chat software in such a way that when they login the first place they reach would be "Newbie's paradise"
[02:47] <Cathartics> Where everyone could say "ubuntu is cool" without anyone being offended.
[02:47] <Malaz> Alas, no such place exists
[02:47] <bazhang> still offtopic alas
[02:47] <Cathartics> haha..
[02:47] <Malaz> It's almost as bad as being <racial comment>
[02:47] <Cathartics> i'm not gonna boor you guys with off topic comments..
[02:48] <Cathartics> I'm gonna go hit the sacks.
[02:48] <Cathartics> Later fellaz.
[02:48] <Cathartics> Ya'll have a good one.
[02:48] <mike__> I would like to reinstall ubuntu on my laptop due to some screwups. I have Vista also on it. How can I reinstal but not mess up Vista?
[02:48] <quittt> you give too much value to 'offtopic'
[02:48] <WeedGrinch> When i tried to partition on vista
[02:48] <quittt> remember this IRC at first
[02:48] <innertruth> just format your vista
[02:48] <WeedGrinch> It screwed it up
[02:48] <WeedGrinch> actually
[02:48] <WeedGrinch> Just delete vista ;D
[02:48] <WeedGrinch> It sucks anyways
[02:48] <tritium> !enter | WeedGrinch
[02:48] <ubotu> WeedGrinch: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:49] <WeedGrinch> Sorry
[02:49] <tritium> No problem.
[02:50] <astro76> mike__: can't you do the same thing you did to install it the first time?
[02:50] <neopsyche> hi.. im looking for a simple program to record TV on ubuntu.. not something complicated like MYTH TV but a simple recorder .. that can record to mpeg4 / FLV etc. and simply have a time set to record like a VCR.. it would be like a virtual VCR (not PVR like MYTH TV)
[02:50] <mike__> I am thinking so.... JUst wondering?
[02:50] <neopsyche> anyone?
[02:50] <astro76> mike__: reinstall is the same as your initial install, so go for it
[02:50] <WeedGrinch> im looking too
[02:51] <mike__> thanks
[02:51] <innertruth> neopsyche: mencoder
[02:51] <Tonren> Can someone please help me get Firefox 2.0.0.11 to stop crashing on Kubuntu 7.10 with Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03-b05?
[02:52] <innertruth> neopsyche: mmm actually mencoder+cron... maybe not simple enouth
[02:52] <Malaz> So, how to install a later version of SDL.  How to update from 1.2.11.  Please help, I'm dying over here!
[02:52] <WeedGrinch> !sdl
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm using Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode, sharing)  - and i dont see any crashes i can blame on java. :) flash perhaps.. but not java
[02:52] <Malaz> Stuck in a bug.  Can't play starcon 2!  Terrible!
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <neopsyche> innertruth: one other thing.. it must have a GUI
[02:52] <ShadowApex> Hey guys, anyone have any extensive knowledge of scripting in Linux?
[02:52] <Malaz> oh...  Well, thanks for actually responding.  You're the first!
[02:53] <tritium> WeedGrinch: don't guess at factoids.  Experiment with ubotu in a private query
[02:53] <Malaz> Noob question: How would I go about upgrading SDL to a later version (than 1.2.11)?
[02:53] <harushimo> how do format a usb drive
[02:53] <harushimo> you*
[02:54] <microphex> whats the best way to go about getting the best drivers for my geforce 8400m gs mobile card?
[02:54] <Tonren> Malaz: If you're referring to upgrading SDL beyond the version supplied in the repositories, then unfortunately, it isn't really within realistic reach of a "noob".
[02:54] <harushimo> I need to reformat it. how would I be able to do that
[02:54] <bazhang> gparted harushimo
[02:54] <ushimitsudoki> harushimo: many ways, but one easy way is using gparted ... simple GUI
[02:55] <harushimo> is the program name gparted or gpart
[02:55] <tritium> !nvidia | microphex
[02:55] <ubotu> microphex: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:55] <harushimo> I read it was gpart
[02:55] <avsa242> Can anyone (assuming they have the time...may be a bit consuming) confirm with Hardy, a fresh install of mythbackend-master an inability to connect to the mysql server (mine is bound to my lan ip, denies connections from it as well as localhost)?
[02:55] <ushimitsudoki> harushimo: gparted
[02:55] <harushimo> thank you
[02:55] <bazhang> harushimo: gparted
[02:55] <astro76> avsa242: hardy in #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <Malaz> Tonren:  Well, thanks for responding.  I suppose there will be a new version in the repos with the release of 8.04?
[02:55] <avsa242> doh, sorry
[02:55] <heatmzzr> ok all, trying to play dvds in my friends computer, seems to have the same files i do in mine and mine plays fine, libdvdcss2, libdvdread3, any others im missing or what am i doing wrong
[02:56] <tritium> Malaz: yes
[02:56] <Tonren> Malaz: That's probable.  The unfortunate thing about Ubuntu's package-based distribution system is that it's hard for inexperienced users (and a hassle for experienced users) to go past the versions in the repositories.
[02:56] <Tonren> Malaz: And the maintainers can't upgrade versions frivolously at the risk of breaking other stuff.
[02:56] <Tonren> It's a tough balance to strike.
[02:57] <Djnet> hello all
[02:57] <bazhang> starcon2 would likely not tip the balance
[02:57] <theaxeman> I just installed Ubuntu on my third system in the last week. Everything's going great. But, I got to the login screen on this lastest install, and I must've typed in something wrong with my username/password during the setup and can't get in.
 Is there a way to get in without doing a re-install?
[02:57] <Malaz> Ahh, but SDL would, maybe
[02:57] <Tonren> bazhang: That's not an Ubuntu problem, but a wine problem.  (I'm assuming starcon2 is a Windows game.)
[02:57] <ronny1> is there any increase in performance when using ubuntu 64 bit over ubuntu 32 bit ?
[02:57] <tritium> theaxeman: yes, boot into single-user (recovery) mode
[02:57] <Malaz> bazhang: The version in the repos is nearly up to date.
[02:58] <Djnet> has anyone gotten red alert 2 to work on wine
[02:58] <bazhang> Tonren: you must be new here ;]
[02:58] <Tonren> ronny1: It's debatable.  You will experience horrible compatibility issues with Flash in 64bit, though.  I recommend sticking with 32bit.
[02:58] <Malaz> Tonren: starcon 2 is released under the GPL, and has been ported to linux.
[02:58] <Tonren> bazhang: Why?
[02:58] <theaxeman> Cool. Thanks!
[02:58] <ushimitsudoki> djnet: best place for that is AppDB at winehq.com
[02:58] <ronny1> Tonren:ok
[02:58] <sahabi> Escape character is '^]'.
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Malaz,  you mean the Ul-Quarm masters ? :)
[02:58] <Tonren> Malaz: Oh.  I hadn't heard of it.
[02:58] <Malaz> Tonren: You must be new at everything to not have heard of starcon 2
[02:59] <Dr_willis> !info uqm
[02:59] <Djnet> k
[02:59] <ubotu> uqm (source: uqm): The Ur-Quan Masters - An inter-galatic adventure game. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.6.2.dfsg-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 566 kB, installed size 1372 kB
[02:59] <Malaz> Dr_willis: That I do.  Star Control 2: The Ur-Quan Masters
[02:59] <Tonren> Malaz: I haven't had the time to play a lot of games lately.
[02:59] <Tonren> Oh, STAR CONTROL.
[02:59] <Malaz> Tonren: It's not a 'lately' kind of game
[02:59] <Djnet> who here have tried to install freecnc or freera
[02:59] <bazhang> heh
[02:59] <Celes> I have a question about open arena can anyone help me?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> Heh - Yep its  an oldie.
[02:59] <WeedGrinch> SAsk it
[02:59] <WeedGrinch> Ask it *
[02:59] <eshaase_> i setup a new gutsy machine with x11vnc and when i use vncviewer to connect to the machine my mouse moves around ok but i can't click or enter my login to the screensaver, this works on my feisty machine and i have no way of explaining why this is hapenning, anyone have any ideas?
[02:59] <Malaz> Tonren: It's the kind of classic that should be mandatory to have a vote in any democratic system.  Kind of like the age of majority.
[02:59] <Zombine> anyone using gkrellm here?
[03:00] <Tonren> Malaz: Then you've played Master of Orion, as well.  :-)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> I suck at the UQM game however.. its just a bit.. well tedious at times.
[03:00] <Celes> How come one cannot play on multiplayer mode of open arena..when I go to search for servers nothing shows up :(?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> Celes,  be sure its looking on the internet, not the local lan.
[03:00] <Malaz> Tonren: I wouldn't call myself a human being if I hadn't.  I played it so much it developed a crack and exploded in my computer
[03:00] <Celes> How do I make sure of that Dr_willis ?
[03:00] <Malaz> Tonren: Sadly I haven't played it since.
[03:01] <Tonren> Malaz: Brilliant.  I'll see if I can fit in Star Control 2 sometime.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Celes,  should be a button there some where in the  game browser listing.
[03:01] <Celes> and what is this punkster thats apparently disabled? is it a anti bot system?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Celes,  if it has it.. lots of those games do.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Punkbuster is an anti-cheat system
[03:01] <Dr_willis> !games
[03:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:01] <Celes> yes and thats "disabled"
[03:01] <danonura> Ububegin: i found i have CACAO jvm installed.
[03:01] <Malaz> Tonren: It's an epic(ish) interstellar adventure game of massively epic proportions.  By the way, it is not affiliated with Starcon 3 in any way.  Ever.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Celes,  its not a feature of openarena - just the original arena game i think
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Celes,  check that !games site for  specifics for openarena perhaps.
[03:02] <Tonren> So, can anyone help me fix FIrefox?
[03:02] <Celes> sigh
 wats wrong wit firefox
[03:02] <aszwet1> hello i need help setting up an atheros 5005gs card on ubuntu 7.10 in lspci it's showing as unclassified device
[03:03] <Tonren> Djnet: I believe Flash is causing it to crash.
[03:03] <linux__alien> can i compile Vanilla Kernels in Ubuntu?
[03:03] <linux__alien> This is the first time i am using Ubuntu
[03:03] <theaxeman> >Malaz< I'm in single-user, Recovery Mode. Is there a command to reset the username/password?
[03:03] <linux__alien> so does Ubuntu allow kernel compilation and stuff like that?
[03:03] <aszwet1> in iwconfig it shows up as ath0, but i can't et it to find any wireless networks on the "mm-applet"
[03:03] <Tonren> theaxeman: passwd
[03:03] <danonura> re: java . virtual machine which one?
[03:04] <Djnet> aszwetl: use restricted drivers manager
[03:04] <bazhang> !compile
[03:04] <Djnet> tonren: hmmm reinstall it
[03:04] <aszwet1> Djnet, i have them enabled
[03:04] <Tonren> Djnet: All due respect, but I really doubt that's going to work.  I don't think reinstalling has ever helped anything on Linux for me.
[03:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[03:05] <bazhang> linux__alien: see above
[03:05] <theaxeman> I just installed Ubuntu on my third system in the last week. Everything's going great. But, I got to the login screen on this lastest install, and I must've typed in something wrong with my username/password during the setup and can't get in.
 Is there a way to get in without doing a re-install?
[03:05] <heartsblood> how do I run fsck.hfsplus on a gutsy system?
[03:05] <theaxeman> I'm in single-user, Recovery Mode. Is there a command to reset the username/password?
[03:05] <Djnet> tonren: uninstall it first it works for me when i have problems
[03:05] <Tonren> Djnet: Well, I'll try.
[03:05] <heartsblood> I need to fix a hfsplus FS but it appears hfsprogs isn't in the gutsy repo
[03:05] <Djnet> aszwet: then i dont know wats wrong
[03:06] <aszwet1> thanx :)
[03:06] <bazhang> http://symbolik.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/vanilla-kernel-26231-on-gutsy-gibbon/ linux__alien also here
[03:07] <harushimo> i want to zero my ntfs partition. how do I do that with gparted
[03:08] <KrAsHeR> that's the thing... everytime i try to install nvidia restricted driver, it corrupts my x server... which configuration files i need to backup to stop having to reinstall all the system?
[03:08] <Tonren> What the hell is "ubufox"?
[03:08] <bazhang> http://openarena.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ Celes
[03:08] <Tonren> KrAsHeR: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:08] <aszwet1> can anyone help me with wireless setup using madwifi?
[03:08] <pawan> any application to convert mp3 audio bitrate
[03:09] <bazhang> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/ubufox Tonren
[03:09] <KrAsHeR> Tonren: Just xorg.conf?
[03:09] <Tonren> bazhang: If I'm trying to reinstall Firefox, should I uninstall ubufox?
[03:09] <Tonren> KrAsHeR: That's the big 'un.
[03:09] <harushimo> anyone
[03:09] <aszwet1> ?
[03:09] <Tonren> harushimo: Have you checked the man page?
[03:10] <bazhang> Tonren: not sure--why not try without and see what happens
[03:10] <KrAsHeR> Tonren: well... how about that... i've done this one time... the xserver got screwed... i restored the backup... and... big surprise... nothing happened!
[03:10] <aszwet1> !atheros
[03:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:10] <KrAsHeR> Tonren: just like ubuntu simply ignored it!
[03:10] <Tonren> KrAsHeR: I'm sorry, dude, I can't really spend the time to give you detailed help... you shouldn't be messing with stuff that screws up Xorg if you aren't an advanced user, though.
[03:10] <bazhang> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php harushimo
[03:10] <harushimo> thanks
[03:11] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg KrAsHeR
[03:11] <KrAsHeR> Tonren: Well man... it's a restricted driver... if i can't install my video driver... what great piece of software mark shuttleworth is burning money financing it... don't you think?
[03:12] <bazhang> offtopic KrAsHeR
[03:12] <Hammer89> hey... for some reason I can't get Gnome to work... it was working fine till I changed my emerald theme
[03:12] <Tonren> KrAsHeR: Ubuntu isn't perfect.  :-\
[03:12] <Celes> bazhang, that doesnt really help
[03:12] <bazhang> Hammer89: more specific please--dont work doesnt do it
[03:13] <linux__alien> is there any current alternative to Adobe Flash problems?
[03:13] <bazhang> Celes: your welcome
[03:13] <Celes> bazhang, thanks for trying..
[03:13] <KrAsHeR> Tonren: let me correct you... 7.10 isn't perfect... in older versions... the video driver worked like magic... now, with this stinkin' failsafe mode... everytime is failsafe!
[03:13] <Hammer89> bazhang: I changed my metacity theme... and my emerald theme... then pressed alt-cntrl-backspace... logged back in... but all I'd get was a black screen with an X as a cursor
[03:14] <Celes> ill ask later... ><
[03:14] <the_alamo> i have installed the latest nvidia driver using envy.  today there is a linux-hreaders update.  what do i need to do before/after i install the update to that my system doesn't crash.
[03:14] <Tonren> KrAsHeR: Yeah, Ubuntu has broken with updates for me, too.
[03:14] <harushimo> I look at the man page, internet, documentation on the internet...is there a way to reformat or zero an hard drive using gparted
[03:14] <bazhang> the_alamo: envy uh oh.
[03:14] <alexander> hey, I'm trying to compile freeciv from source but getting an error concerning gtk+
[03:15] <harushimo> i'll keep looking. if anyone knows, drop me a line
[03:15] <alexander> has anyone encountered this problem, surely gtk+ is installed by default
[03:15] <bazhang> harushimo: in the faq
[03:15] <heatmzzr_> ok, how do i get the program to do the box thingy, the eyecandy? have squiggly windows now but not the configuration program
[03:15] <eshaase_> i setup a new gutsy machine with x11vnc and when i use vncviewer to connect to the machine my mouse moves around ok but i can't click or enter my login to the screensaver, this works on my feisty machine and i have no way of explaining why this is hapenning, anyone have any ideas?
[03:15] <astro76> alexander: not any -dev packages
[03:15] <Djnet> hey does anyone have a guide to install cedega
[03:15] <alexander> astro76: sorry what?
[03:15] <Falco98> anyone know if there's a trick to squeeze a linux install onto a disc which is already half-full of valuable data in NTFS?
[03:15] <bazhang> !ccsm | heatmzzr_
[03:15] <ubotu> heatmzzr_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:16] <heatmzzr_> thanks bahang
[03:16] <Falco98> i.e. could the linux installer (or any other tool) make a new partition without destroying the current one?
[03:16] <Tonren> Can someone, anyone, PLEASE help me fix Firefox.
[03:16] <bazhang> Falco98: sure
[03:16] <the_alamo> bazhang, trouble?  i used envy because the driver that the restricted-drivers app installs isn't great for my card.
[03:16] <astro76> alexander: you'll need to look for a gtk package ending in -dev or -devel, these contain the headers and such necessary for compiling
[03:16] <Djnet> tonren: reinstalling didnt work
[03:16] <bazhang> !envy | the_alamo
[03:16] <ubotu> the_alamo: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:16] <linux__alien> one general question for Ubuntu . Whats the difference between Fedora and Ubuntu in terms of packages and is Ubuntu only a end user system or can it be used by developers too ?
[03:16] <Falco98> bazhang: can you give me some quick details?
[03:16] <Tonren> Djnet: Nope.
[03:16] <alexander> astro76: alright, thanks a lot, I'm looking now... I want gtk2-dev or something like that?
[03:17] <WeedGrinch> I install EggDrop but I cant locate any of the files with search.... Help?
[03:17] <bazhang> Falco98: you mean a dual boot?
[03:17] <bazhang> Falco98: vista installed first?
[03:17] <astro76> linux__alien: linux is linux, both are suitable for devs or anyone else
[03:17] <Falco98> bazhang: yeah, that's what i'd like to end up with, but my point is, the disk i want to install on already has an NTFS partition that i don't want to destroy.. even if it's not full
[03:17] <alexander> astro76: looks like the closest thing is gtk2.0-binver-2.10 there is no -dev
[03:17] <travisat> linux__alien: ubuntu devs generally use ubuntu I would hope
[03:17] <Falco98> bazhang: xp, but yeah it's already windows'd
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> Where do files i install from Sudo Apt-Get install X go?
[03:18] <Wrec> I need an advanced user to help me switch the linux kernel that is booted by default. My menu.lst file does not seem to be editing what the grub is doing. I know exactly how this is supposed to normally be done. I need someone with lots of experience.
[03:18] <cry01> hi, anyone can tell me whats the difference between a presanitized header and an orginal kernel header? And also how I would apply a patch like this one? I am quite confused... http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/022833.html
[03:18] <bazhang> linux__alien: fedora uses rpm--ubuntu uses apt--one is stable and usable, the other not so much
[03:18] <the_alamo> bazhang, well i think that ubotu is maybe a little biased and well, just wrong.  i needed the newer driver for my card to function properly
[03:18] <bazhang> oops deb
[03:18] <linux__alien> developers i mean the kernel coz i play with the kernel
[03:18] <linux__alien> so just wanted to know
[03:18] <astro76> !info libgtk2.0-dev | alexander
[03:18] <ubotu> alexander: libgtk2.0-dev (source: gtk+2.0): Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2588 kB, installed size 9132 kB
[03:18] <bazhang> the_alamo: well the rules here say dont support envy
[03:19] <Wrec> does anyone else have wireless issues in the 'new' kernel?
[03:19] <alexander> astro76: thanks a lot
[03:19] <travisat> linux__alien: yes you can dev on the kernel in ubuntu
[03:19] <nickrud> the_alamo: too many people don't realize that a kernel upgrade requires reinstall of envy, or have issues during an upgrade to the next release.
[03:20] <nickrud> s/reinstall/rerunning/
[03:20] <Wrec> does anyone know how to change the default OS to boot in grub
[03:20] <bazhang> Falco98: so you have multiple partitions on this disk?
[03:20] <Falco98> the_alamo: funny, fedora didn't support my laptop's wireless card *at all*, but ubuntu found it with no problems whatsoever :-P
[03:21] <linux__alien> travisat, ve not used much of Ubuntu just used Live CD. Now ve got a laptop Dell Inspiron 1520 and installed ubuntu and fedora too fedora didnt recognize the wireless card and know the problem but i dont have any other internet connection except the wireless to fix it even to download the packages i need a connection so Ubuntu detected it and its good too so just wanted to know about it a little more
[03:21] <Falco98> bazhang: yeah; one is a small partition with XP on it, and is almost full.  the other contains all my data, and is about half full.  Optimally I'd like to ... er, make a new partition using the empty space on this drive, and put linux on it in a multi-boot type situation.
[03:21] <sjolshag> How do I get the snd_intel8x0 sound out of the headphones and from the speakers after Suspend/resume cycle?
[03:21] <nickrud> Wrec: set the default (near the top in /boot/grub/menu.lst) , count your os's starting with 0
[03:21] <Wrec> nickrud: this does not change the default booting contrary to all reason ><
[03:21] <Falco98> bazhang: the problem is, i'm *just* familiar enough with partitioning to know that this has always been impossible, at least with traditional DOS partitioning tools... but I don't know what Linux can do...
[03:22] <the_alamo> bazhang, it is true that ubuntu doesn't support envy but this is a community channel and i am asking the community for help.
[03:22] <erawfish> !envy
[03:22] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:22] <jmlane> Hi all. My friend managed to screw up and deleted my user from our ubuntu machine. I restored a backed-up /etc/passwd and /etc/group (from /var/backups) but when I go to login or su I get "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info". Any ideas?
[03:22] <Wrec> nickrud: I've tried this along with the 'saved' function (and have learned a lot in the process), but the simple function to boot what I want remains unreached
[03:22] <nickrud> Wrec: you sure? I've used it in the past, but not recently
[03:22] <bazhang> the_alamo: just be thankful the stricter ops are not about
[03:22] <astro76> the_alamo: the community doesn't want to help with it either
[03:22] <erawfish> the_alamo: see the "not supported"? what ubotu says is LAW here
[03:22] <fireman23333333> #debian r jerks
[03:22] <Milk_> anyone running ispconfig in ubuntu?
[03:22] <fireman23333333> they all  suck
[03:22] <linux__alien> travisat, whats the audio player to be used with ubuntu. i used to use Amarok and here is there anything else ?
[03:22] <linux__alien> apart from amarok?
[03:23] <fireman23333333> what is an ubuntu
[03:23] <fireman23333333> ?
[03:23] <fireman23333333> ?
[03:23] <Wrec> nickrud: yes, I've put off homework for 4 hours restarting the pc. Also, I tried changing the timer from 3 to 10 just to see if it would. It didn't change.
[03:23] <astro76> !ubuntu | fireman23333333
[03:23] <ubotu> fireman23333333: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:23] <sjolshag> linux_alien: rythmbox, juk, etc
[03:23] <bazhang> fireman23333333: stop
[03:23] <nickrud> the_alamo: it's worded that way so we can say no with a clean conciense
[03:23] <Wrec> nickrud: I'm thinking I'm editing the wrong file or it doesn't like the separate boot partition
[03:23] <harushimo> its look like gparted doesn't have an option for a zero fill the drive
[03:23] <the_alamo> nice.
[03:23] <erawfish> please channel note: fireman23333333 was repeatedly banned in #debian and evaded bans when his trolling got out of hand. so ban him now or suffer later
[03:23] <sjolshag> linux_alien: "apt-cache search sound"  usually gives a pretty good overview
[03:23] <harushimo> i'm guessing I can use dd right
[03:23] <harushimo> to do that
[03:24] <cry01> hi, anyone can tell me whats the difference between a presanitized header and an orginal kernel header? And also how I would apply a patch like this one? I am quite confused... http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/022833.html
[03:24] <bazhang> erawfish: thanks for the heads up
[03:24] <fireman23333333> AH SHUT UP I ONLY PWNED THEN CAUSE THEY JERKS
[03:24] <nickrud> Wrec: shouldn't make a difference. And it's possible you're editing the wrong file if there's more than one menu.lst on your partitions.
[03:24] <fireman23333333> that didnt answer any questions
[03:24] <erawfish> !language | fireman23333333
[03:24] <ubotu> fireman23333333: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:24] <fireman23333333> ok
[03:24] <bazhang> !caps | fireman23333333
[03:24] <ubotu> fireman23333333: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:24] <fireman23333333> sorry
[03:25] <fireman23333333> what is the differance betwwem ubuntu and vista?
[03:25] <nickrud> fireman2333: then take it as a warning to be nice
[03:25] <erawfish> and ban evasion is a reason for a kline. so you should actually be klined (baned from the whole network)
[03:25] <nickrud> fireman2333: and not silly
[03:25] <bazhang> fireman23333333: stop now--last warning
[03:25] <Wrec> I have a / partition and a /boot partition. The /boot partition has a /boot/grub/menu.lst along with a menu.lst~, but I dont' think that would make a difference.
[03:25] <erawfish> nickrud: he asked the same questions in #debian. was fun to watch in a train wreck kinda way
[03:25] <Wrec> nickrud: I have a / partition and a /boot partition. The /boot partition has a /boot/grub/menu.lst along with a menu.lst~, but I dont' think that would make a difference.
[03:25] <nickrud> erawfish: heh
[03:25] <WeedGrinch> !java
[03:25] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:25] <fireman23333333> OMG were can i go to learn more about ubuntu?
[03:26] <fireman23333333> or any linux thing
[03:26] <erawfish> fireman23333333: at www.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <Sambie> Stop acting like a child Fireman
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> fireman23333333: uh, ubuntu.com?
[03:26] <bazhang> www.ubuntuguide.org fireman23333333
[03:26] <fireman23333333> I am only 15
[03:26] <fireman23333333> i know some stuff though
[03:26] <Sambie> That figures
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:26] <bazhang> !ot | fireman23333333
[03:26] <ubotu> fireman23333333: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:26] <nickrud> Wrec: try unmounting your /boot partition, see if there's a menu.lst under there.
[03:27] <fireman23333333> thank u ubou
[03:27] <Falco98> sigh
[03:27] <Lokii-> ubotu is a bot
[03:27] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[03:27] <Wrec> nickrud: you mean see if there's one somewhere else?
[03:27] <ozzloy> fireman23333333: sage'
[03:27] <fireman23333333> ubuto is not real
[03:27] <fireman23333333> ?
[03:27] <fireman23333333> ?
[03:28] <Falco98> correct
[03:28] <nickrud> Wrec: yes. It's possible that you're seeing the one in /boot partition, but the mbr is pointing to the /boot on the primary partition
[03:28] <fireman23333333> he knew my name'
[03:28]  * Celes hugs ubotu and makes him real :)
[03:28] <Sambie> Ubotu, Is your name happen to be Bender? If so... Lets go get drunk! :)
[03:28] <bazhang> Falco98: this is possible--though you should back up important stuff as always
[03:28] <fireman23333333> so i think u lieing
[03:28] <Wrec> I moved /boot from the primary partition when I made the boot partition
[03:28] <astro76> would someone please kick the fireman23333333 troll, now he's trolling #mediawiki
[03:28] <Wrec> nickrud:I moved /boot from the primary partition when I made the boot partition
[03:28]  * nickrud worries about possible magic in the channel
[03:28] <heatmzzr_> fireman, telling the truth
[03:28] <AlgorithmicContr> Could someone help me out? Whenever I shutdown Ubuntu the usplash is very dim and doesn't even seem to appear at all. Conversely, the usplash theme on boot startup is fine.
[03:28] <fireman23333333> falco98 are u 10 years old?
[03:29] <Falco98> bazhang: oh?  can you point me in the right direction?  important stuff is pretty well backed-up atm, though i'll make copies onto external drives and stuff before i get too deep
[03:29] <nickrud> Wrec: moved? or copied? That's the thing I would confirm first, make sure I was actually editing the menu.lst that grub is using
[03:29] <Sambie> Fireman, Don't you have school tomorrow?
[03:29] <Falco98> fireman2333: huh?
[03:29] <Sambie> It's 10:30PM
[03:29] <bazhang> Sambie: dont feed it
[03:29] <Sambie> isn't suppose to be bed time?
[03:29] <Sambie> :)
[03:29] <zer0ne> My window manager closed, and now I don't have any sort of minimize/close/maximizebuttons, and my windows have no size controls.  What's the command I can run in compiz-fusion to restart the windo wmanager?
[03:29] <nickrud> !ops | fireman2333 (seems to be a consensus)
[03:29] <ubotu> fireman2333 (seems to be a consensus): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:29]  * erawfish things he sees many people regretting it already
[03:29] <erawfish> *thinks
[03:29] <astro76> bazhang: you have the patience of a saint my friend ;)
[03:29] <Sambie> Bazhang, I apologize :)
[03:30] <Wrec> nickrud: wow, that's even stranger. I must have forgotten to copy it over. But, now I have a different problem haha. How do I get it to look at the /boot partition instead of the /boot on the main one.
[03:30] <Falco98> indeed
[03:30] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu Falco98 this is for feisty but works for gutsy as well
[03:30] <Wrec> nickrud: must have forgotten to delete it*
[03:30] <bazhang> astro76: living in asia will do that to a person ;]
[03:30] <Falco98> bazhang: thanks, i'll check it out..
[03:30] <Kalir> Ah cripes, did someone just come in here claiming to be 15 and saying he needed/would hax?
[03:30] <bazhang> Falco98: there is also a youtube video ;]
[03:30] <Celes> umm okay does anyone play open arena here?
[03:30] <jmlane> Can someone tell me where user account authentication information is managed/kept by default?
[03:30] <Falco98> hehe awesome
[03:30] <csc`> Kalir: yah, you just did
[03:31] <Hammer81> *tries again* For some reason when I try to log on my computer using the gnome desktop environment all I get is a black screen with a white X... can anyone help?
[03:31] <dxdt> Kalir: haxor!
[03:31] <Kalir> csc`: Cheeky.
[03:31] <Falco98> bazhang: is it linked from that page, i guess?
[03:31] <erawfish> jmlane: /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[03:31] <nickrud> Wrec: my memory fails, a sec
[03:31] <Wrec> nickrud: when I made the /boot partition using gparted, I tagged the new partition at the beginning of the disk to be the boot disk
[03:31] <nickrud> Wrec: not enough
[03:31] <bazhang> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236 Falco98 not sure which is installed first though
[03:31] <Wrec> nickrud: hmmm
[03:31] <erawfish> Wrec: that is irrelevnat. partition bootflags are meaningless
[03:31] <theaxeman> Got my password/reset problem fixed: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[03:31] <Kalir> Bah.
[03:31] <Wrec> erawfish: noted XD
[03:31] <Falco98> bazhang: iirc, isn't the linux installer smarter about these things?
[03:31] <erawfish> Wrec: at least under linux it is
[03:31] <jmlane> erawfish: Ah, forgot to restore new /etc/shadow... Thanks.
[03:32] <bazhang> theaxeman: thanks for the link--that is an awesome site
[03:32] <Wrec> erawfish: that's all there is in my world :P
[03:32] <bazhang> Falco98: it can pass the turing test imo
[03:32] <fireman23333333> Falco98 are u 10?
[03:32] <erawfish> Wrec: edit your menu.lst. that is what grub cares about. but since you changed /boot, you will need to reinstall grub with trub-install too
[03:32] <fireman23333333> Falco98 are u 10
[03:32] <Falco98> what do you mean, fireman?
[03:32] <erawfish> !ops fireman23333333 ban evasion
[03:32] <fireman23333333> ???
[03:33] <fireman23333333> 10 years old
[03:33] <Falco98> why do you ask?
[03:33] <erawfish> !ops | fireman23333333 ban evasion
[03:33] <ubotu> fireman23333333 ban evasion: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:33] <Wrec> erawfish: how do I go about reinstalling grub with trub-install
[03:33] <fireman23333333> 1998?
[03:33] <bazhang> bye fireman2333
[03:33] <Falco98> oh
[03:33] <Falco98> haha
[03:33] <Kalamansi> !seen th0r
[03:33] <csc`> lotsofbanslols
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen th0r - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <Falco98> yeah, that' smy highschool graduation year :-P
[03:33] <Falco98> though today is my birthday :-P
[03:33] <bazhang> happy birthday!
[03:33] <erawfish> nalioth: he WILL ban evade forever. he did the exact same thing in #debian. the regulars there had a pretty hardt ime
[03:34] <Celes> how old?
[03:34] <Kalamansi> Falco98 happy bd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:34] <erawfish> grub | Wrec
[03:34] <nickrud> Wrec: I wanted to be sure, so I looked it up. the root (hdx,x) points to your /boot partition
[03:34] <Falco98> thanx =)
[03:34] <edju> wireless is up, but iwconfig doesn't show an ip.  is that normal?
[03:34] <nalioth> erawfish: i suspect i won't have any trouble  :)
[03:34] <erawfish> !grub | Wrec
[03:34] <ubotu> Wrec: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <toc2rta> Kalamansi ?
[03:34] <Falco98> Celes: 28
[03:34] <bazhang> hehe
[03:34] <erawfish> nalioth: kline?
[03:34] <Falco98> (sigh)
[03:34] <toc2rta> what is the site that i go and paste my source.list ?
[03:34] <Hammer81> *tries again* For some reason when I try to log on my computer using the gnome desktop environment all I get is a black screen with a white X... can anyone help? (starting to feel like a pest ;) )
[03:34] <erawfish> would be about time...
[03:34] <Celes> happy 28th Falco98  :D
[03:34] <Falco98> ty ;-)
[03:34] <Celes> im only in my mid twenties
[03:35] <Celes> but I still feel old.
[03:35] <Noogen> Hammer: probably a graphic problem?  what kind of card do you have? ATI?
[03:35] <Wrec> nickrud: where do I edit it to be (hd0, 0)
[03:35] <jmlane> Any sort of access logs on a system where I can check who might have made changes to my /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow?
[03:35] <Wrec> nickrud: because that is where it is, right at the beginning
[03:35] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to save the config of my ethernets? so that when i restart my ubuntu still my workstation can connect to the server.. thanks
[03:35] <Hammer81> Noogen: yeah... it worked fine before though
[03:35] <Falco98> bazhang: do you happen to know whether that partitioning installer allows a user to choose a different HD to rearrange the partitions on, etc?
[03:36] <erawfish> Kalamansi: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:36] <Noogen> Hammmer: ic, what model?  and do you remember what you did to break it?
[03:36] <Falco98> the webpage seems to be mildly vague on this point, even though it looks as if the options include this in general
[03:36] <geekitty> any help possible with dpkg error?
[03:36] <Kalamansi> erawfish : thanks
[03:36] <twentyafterfour> can anyone recommend a good place to look for help on an obscure kernel/driver issue?
[03:36] <bazhang> Falco98: though gparted is used on the installer--you might be better off with the gparted live cd for that--just my 2 cents
[03:36] <erawfish> twentyafterfour: ##kernel
[03:36] <Hammer81> Noogen: Radeon Xpress 200m... last thing I did was change some metacity/emerald themes
[03:36] <Wrec> ubotu: that's not my problem
[03:36] <twentyafterfour> erawfish: thanks
[03:36] <Wrec> erawfish: can you be more clear?
[03:36] <nickrud> Wrec: in /boot/grub/menu.lst , change #groot= to the correct device
[03:36] <erawfish> Wrec: it is. and ubotu is a bot
[03:36] <astro76> jmlane: sudo commands and logins are logged to /var/log/auth.log
[03:36] <Falco98> bazhang: oh, use the gparted liveCD and then use the linux installer once it's done?
[03:37] <nickrud> Wrec: then run   sudo update-grub
[03:37] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to filter the downloads of workstation pc2(xp) and pc3(win98)? where pc1 is my server..
[03:37] <jmlane> astro76: Thanks!
[03:37] <erawfish> nickrud: since he deleted /boot he also deleted stage 2 of grub
[03:37] <bazhang> erawfish: I have found the people in #debian to be quite nice actually--thus suspecting him of trolldom right away
[03:37] <Hammer81> Noogen: I'm working a K desktop environment installed on the same computer right now... till I get it fixed
[03:37] <Kalamansi> bazhang : ni hao ma?
[03:37] <Wrec> erawfish: I have nothing to do with windows
[03:37] <erawfish> Wrec: but your problem is the same
[03:37] <nickrud> erawfish: he said he copied it over to the /boot partition, he's booting but default is not controlling the boot os. That's what lead me to believe he hadn't changed the groot
[03:37] <Noogen> Hammer: would you know which driver you are using?  vesa, radeonhd, or ati?
[03:38] <bazhang> 你好 Kalamansi
[03:38] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : happy birthday. whats the food and drinks there. any party?
[03:38] <erawfish> Wrec: and solving it is done the same way too. your choice if you want to ignore it
[03:38] <Falco98> i have food if you bring the beer O:-)
[03:38] <Hammer81> Noogen: whatever the default restricted driver is...
[03:38] <zer0ne> how do I restart my window decorator in compiz fusion?  it crashed and I have no window controls
[03:38] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : where are you located?
[03:38] <Wrec> erawfish: I'll try that if nickrud doesn't help me solve this. They're doing a good job so far.
[03:38] <Falco98> south carolina, USA
[03:38] <Falco98> for now :-P
[03:38] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : why for now?
[03:38] <bazhang> zer0ne: alt-f2 metacity --replace
[03:38] <EmmerP> anybody using vimperator?
[03:38] <Falco98> getting transferred at the end of this week
[03:39] <Falco98> by my company
[03:39] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : you moving from time to time with your family?
[03:39] <Wrec> nickrud: should I get rid of the # before it (I forget if that's the comment character)
[03:39] <nickrud> Wrec: no, leave the #
[03:39] <Kalamansi> Falco98 ahh okay
[03:39] <Falco98> Kalamansi: moving closer to my girlfriend, for the most part
[03:39] <Kalamansi> !server
[03:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[03:39] <erawfish> nickrud: he needs to change those things too of course, no question. but when moving /boot there is a high chance grub files are moved too. which is bad. right now they still might even work cause it'S on the same place on disk right now. but he might soon use the space again and then hi grub files get overwriten (on disk) and grub stops working
[03:39] <Falco98> and also closer to better jobs
[03:39] <Wrec> nickrud: well, it's set to the correct one on the primary's /boot
[03:39] <alex_1> hello, can someone plz help me with installing tar files
[03:39] <erawfish> so if stage2 and friends changed sectors on disk. he needs to reinstall grub
[03:40] <nickrud> Wrec: after update-grub , run sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 (or sda1 if that's right)
[03:40] <Kalamansi> Falco98 i see. what kind of job you want? i can give you a work tho.
[03:40] <Kalamansi> Falco98 but you are too far from my country
[03:40] <Falco98> some sort of IT job..
[03:40] <Creedence> hi everyone. I am looking for a program to sync files from a network drive (samba) to my ubuntu laptop. Sort of like Windows offline files. Any ideas?
[03:40] <Falco98> what's your country?
[03:40] <Hammer81> Noogen: maybe if I were able to set the metacity/emerald stuff back to whatever the defaults were?
[03:40] <Wrec> nickrud: I'm not sure what the status of each of the /boots are at this point
[03:40] <Kalamansi> Falco98 i see.. we need linkbuilder, virtual assistant, web master, web dev
[03:40] <Wrec> nickrud: did you want me to get rid of the primary's boot
[03:41] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : philippines
[03:41] <Falco98> Kalamansi: ah cool
[03:41] <Kalamansi> Falco98 come here
[03:41] <Kalamansi> Falco98 hehe
[03:41] <Noogen> Hammer: yes, that could be the issue
[03:41] <Falco98> hehe maybe :-P
[03:41] <bazhang> offtopic guys
[03:41] <nickrud> erawfish: hm, I think we're thinking in the same way, coming from different directions. Wrec no, leave the original /boot , you're going to be mounting the /boot partition over it. Until you have everything working correctly, leave that there as fallback
[03:41] <Hammer81> Noogen: do you know how I can do that from KDE?
[03:41] <toc2rta> Kalamansi how do i get my firefox to noticed my java directory ?
[03:42] <jeisma> my sound doesn't work since i've installed kubuntu, how do i go about fixing it?
[03:42] <nickrud> Wrec: and I don't believe I got sucked into boot on a second partition, I think that's a waste :)
[03:42] <Kalamansi> toc2rta i dont know. i dont use desktop anymore. currently im having problem in CLI
[03:42] <jfkdsljio> i was writing a text document and the computer was shut down, is there any way to retrieve this unsaved document?
[03:42] <Kalamansi> Falco98 you know how to filter the download?
[03:42] <Noogen> Hammer: i believe it's Menu-> System
[03:42] <Kalamansi> !firewall
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:43] <Falco98> um, not sure?
[03:43] <Falco98> like what?
[03:43] <astro76> jfkdsljio: not if you never saved
[03:43] <bazhang> jfkdsljio: open office may allow you to restore--sometimes it does at least
[03:43] <Noogen> Hammer: i forgot, it's one of the menu next to add and remove program
[03:43] <jeezmos> I'm trying to get a 7-button mouse to work in Ubuntu, but using "xev" it seems only 5 are recognised ... the back/forward buttons are using the same button # as the right-click and middle-click buttons.  This is the case no matter how many buttons I tell xorg.conf to look for.  any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
[03:43] <Kalamansi> Falco98 like your ubuntu box CLI will auto clean the downloads
[03:43] <Noogen> Hammer: i'm in gnome now
[03:43] <kupesoft> what's the good command-line music player - sox won't play .flac files!
[03:43] <Mixx> jeezmos - gl i've tried everything.
[03:44] <astro76> kupesoft: moc
[03:44] <Hammer81> Noogen: hmm... I can only find the emerald stuff... not metacity
[03:44] <nickrud> Wrec: reading back over my instructions,   sudo grub-install /dev/hda  (or sda)  not hda1
[03:44] <Falco98> oh.. well i'm not familiar enough with it yet :-P
[03:44] <Mixx> jeezmos - i've only ever got 5 recognized
[03:44] <jfkdsljio> it was just gedit
[03:44] <jfkdsljio> i dont suppose gedit saves drafts
[03:44] <bazhang> jfkdsljio: depends if you had auto save enabled
[03:44] <Kalamansi> Falco98 okay.
[03:44] <WeedGrinch> What IRC clients can I can from sudo apt-get?
[03:44] <ppibburr> lots
[03:44] <bazhang> jfkdsljio: then your out of luck
[03:44] <Falco98> how about FTP servers?  O:-)
[03:44] <Kalamansi> WeedGrinch : sudo apt-get pidgin
[03:44] <jfkdsljio> i found it i found it!!!!
[03:44] <WeedGrinch> Is pidgin the best?
[03:44] <WeedGrinch> IYO
[03:44] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : like file server?
[03:44] <jfkdsljio> im so fhappy
[03:44] <Wrec> nickrud: k, I"ll try that
[03:44] <bazhang> xchat WeedGrinch
[03:44] <Kalamansi> WeedGrinch yes
[03:45] <gilda_> everyone luvs pidgin WeedGrinch
[03:45] <Falco98> WeedGrinch: i would also suggest the chatzilla firefox extension
[03:45] <Starnestommy> WeedGrinch: not for irc, but pidgin works for everything else
[03:45] <Kalamansi> WeedGrinch all you need there in pidgin
[03:45] <nickrud> Wrec: after you do that, I want to kinda examine your system before reboot
[03:45] <Noogen> Hammer: post your xorg.conf, use pastebin in the url
[03:45] <Wrec> nickrud: alright, what shall I give you
[03:45] <Kalamansi> Falco98 file server?
[03:45] <Falco98> Kalamansi: no, FTP server.. just a basic (preferably GUI) server which i can create a few random accounts
[03:45] <WeedGrinch> I'll give chatzilla a try
[03:45] <WeedGrinch> thanks!
[03:45] <WeedGrinch> :)
[03:45] <_stink_> i have a dapper install w/ a well entrenched /home directory. i want to install gutsy on a new machine and have it use the /home from the old dapper install via nfs. i'm not worried about the nfs setup, but i am worried that the settings in places like .gnome2 will get screwed up because i'll be running old gnome and new gnome under the same /home. any suggestions? can this work?
[03:45] <Hammer81> Noogen: alright
[03:45] <Kalamansi> Falco98 : really? how to config?
[03:45] <Falco98> so i can login remotely and get files from my PC and network
[03:45] <nickrud> Wrec: brb, off for a cigarette.  I want   /boot/grub/menu.lst , the output of   mount   , and the /etc/fstab
[03:45] <WeedGrinch> falco98 use VNC?
[03:46] <danielski_pl> how do i remove all open source nvidia and non open source nvidia drivers?
[03:46] <Falco98> i currently have a windows FTP server set up which allows me to login remotely and download files from myself
[03:46] <Wrec> nickrud: I put the /boot on a separate partition because grub error: 18 called for it as a way to fix it. It never worked, but a friend convinced me to keep it out of security.
[03:46] <Falco98> WeedGrinch: VNC?
[03:46] <Kalamansi> Falco98 sounds interesting. kindly teach me how to do that ftp server?
[03:46] <erawfish> Falco98: use sftp
[03:46] <Kalamansi> !ftp server
[03:46] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[03:46] <Falco98> Kalamansi: well that's what i'm asking :-P
[03:46] <erawfish> don't use ftp
[03:46] <astro76> _stink_: yes that may be a problem
[03:46] <Kalamansi> Falco98 ah so you want to setup ftp?
[03:46] <jfkdsljio> ok i just enabled autosave, thats great i didnt know something simple and small like gedit would have an autosave feature, how cool is that
[03:46] <Falco98> thanks ubotu ;-)
[03:46] <Falco98> (you wascally wobot)
[03:46] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to setup file server?
[03:46] <WeedGrinch> use filezilla for ftp?
[03:46] <Falco98> Kalamansi: yep
[03:47] <WeedGrinch> brb
[03:47] <Kalamansi> Falco98 i havent try that...
[03:47] <erawfish> by installing samba of a nfs server
[03:47] <_stink_> astro76: ah, ok. do you know i can point gnome to a different place for settings?
[03:47] <Kalamansi> erawfish : CLI or GUI?
[03:47] <Kalamansi> !nfs
[03:47] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:47] <DIL> !cli
[03:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:47] <erawfish> a fileserver is a daemon. neither cli nor gui
[03:47] <astro76> _stink_: I would think the cleaner thing to do would be copy the settings, and then mount your nfs mount somewhere else
[03:48] <astro76> _stink_: ad of course it's not just gnome
[03:48] <Kalamansi> erawfish : which is best?install in gui o cli?
[03:48] <Starfish> I have a script-ish question: I'm running ktorrent on another machine, would there be a practical way to have it notify me via some IM method when it finishes a download, and/or periodically with stats ?
[03:48] <_stink_> astro76: right, pretty much everything might break :) i'll try that, thanks much.
[03:48] <erawfish> wth is there no sarah connor chronicles tonight? who stealed it?
[03:49] <gilda_> erawfish, u think the big writers strike may have sumthing to do with it ?
[03:49] <Hammer81> Noogen: http://pastebin.com/m62c5247b
[03:49] <erawfish> no. cause every tv guide announces it
[03:49] <Kalamansi> erawfish : currently i have server and workstation gets their net connection thru it. is it okay to install fileserver in a current server who give internet connection to my workstations?
[03:50] <erawfish> Kalamansi: if you tell the fileserver daemon not to listen on the public interfaces yes. no otherwise
[03:51] <gilda_> Kalamansi, and if u are using a single nic card on that box ur inet traffic can slow down ur internal traffic
[03:51] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to tell the fileserver daemon not to listen on the public interfaces?
[03:51] <Agent_bob> looking at new mother boards,  which is better for linux  ASUS or gigabyte ?
[03:51] <erawfish> by config file editing
[03:51] <DIL> ausus 64
[03:51] <Kalamansi> gilda_ : i have four nic cards. 2 nics cards have internet sharring...i have 2 spare left
[03:51] <erawfish> Agent_bob: irrelevant
[03:51] <ogre> can anyone walk me through an install from source of vmware player?
[03:51] <erawfish> DIL: by what miracle do you come to this OT suggestion?
[03:51] <Kalamansi> erawfish : how to config file editing please? thanks
[03:52] <bazhang> asus Agent_bob
[03:52] <erawfish> Kalamansi: sudo nano <file>
[03:52] <gilda_> lol k .. just listing a caveat not aware of ur hw Kalamansi
[03:52] <DIL> my son if you have to ask?
[03:52] <Kalamansi> Agent_bob : i use gigabyte and it runs smoothly =)
[03:52] <Noogen> Hammer: ic, you are using ati (restricted driver).  fyi, you might not be able to find metacity in kde because it's for gnome
[03:52] <erawfish> hazhang by what miracle do you come to this OT suggestion?
[03:52] <Wrec> nickrud: here is menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/892117  |  here is the output of mount, http://pastebin.ca/892118  |  here is /etc/fstab   http://pastebin.ca/892121
[03:52] <Agent_bob> bazhang particular reasons ?
[03:52] <bazhang> erawfish: I live here
[03:52] <bazhang> Agent_bob: three asus computers ;]
[03:52] <Agent_bob> k
[03:53] <DIL> erawfish, i have a kv8se and love it
[03:53] <erawfish> bazhang: great non sequitur but irrelevant again
[03:53] <Hammer81> Noogen: yeah... there's no way to open the metacity manager thing from terminal or something?
[03:53] <Creedence> hi everyone. I am looking for a program to sync files from a network drive (samba) to my ubuntu laptop. Sort of like Windows offline files. Any ideas?
[03:53] <bazhang> erawfish: irrelevant? not so my esteemed friend
[03:53] <Kalamansi> gilda_ : so better to use another computer just for file server?
[03:53] <gilda_> Agent_bob, i have some minor issues with my msi k9n neo - with it having the mcp65 sets for the sata/pata and sound
[03:53] <ogre> erawfish:  quit trolling
[03:53] <DIL> yea!
[03:53] <erawfish> DIL, bazhang: your reasoning skills are simply scary. anecdotes are no reasons. they're anecdotes. and you guys have anecdotal evidence
[03:54] <bazhang> erawfish: mmkay
[03:54] <DIL> yu blood claat
[03:54] <ogre> !ops | erawfish
[03:54] <ubotu> erawfish: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:54] <rezourxe> hi
[03:54] <gilda_> personally Kalamansi  i would suggesting using a box for routing and a box for files - but id like to keep the file box qos'd offline imo
[03:54] <Agent_bob> gilda_ k ty i'll drive around that combo
[03:54] <bazhang> ogre: that was too much
[03:54] <nalioth> let us be civil, please
[03:54] <nickrud> Wrec: according to what you've shown me, you're not doing anything with /boot on a separate partition. It's not mounted currently and it's not in /etc/fstab
[03:54] <erawfish> Agent_bob: asus and GA use the same chips and chipsets. and they use a metric different ton of them. so your question is kinda too unspecific and certainly not relevant to #ubuntu but more like hardware
[03:54] <jrib> ogre: yes?
[03:54] <erawfish> #hardware
[03:55] <DIL> erawfish, do you know socrates my friend
[03:55] <nickrud> lol, erawfish is a troller !!
[03:55] <bazhang> erawfish: no need to be hasty on your side either
[03:55] <Wrec> nickrud: yes, it's not automounting
[03:55] <Kalamansi> gilda_ : okay thanks. you mean, better not to connect to the internet ? (file server) just local?
[03:55] <ogre> jrib:  just letting you know of a troll
[03:55] <erawfish> nickrud: guilty as charged
[03:55] <nickrud> Wrec: because it's not listed in /etc/fstab .
[03:55] <Wrec> nickrud: right
[03:55] <badkitty> I cannot play a dvd with totem. It says I do not have the appropriate plugins? I have libdvdcss2 installed and ubuntu-restricted-extras... am I missing something?
[03:55] <rezourxe> hi, does anybody know of any application for music production?
[03:56] <erawfish> Wrec: can you please tell me what the problem is, description?
[03:56] <jrib> badkitty: did you eject the cd and put it back in after installing those things?
[03:56] <jrib> ogre: I just see him providing support?
[03:56] <Starfish> I have a script-ish question: I'm running ktorrent on another machine, would there be a practical way to have it notify me via some IM method when it finishes a download, and/or periodically with stats ?
[03:56] <ppibburr> echo foo > music.ext :)
[03:56] <nickrud> Wrec: restate, erawfish is no troller
[03:56] <badkitty> rezourxe: Yeah Ardour
[03:56] <badkitty> jrib: I even restarted
[03:57] <gilda_> thats just me opinion Kalamansi but thats if u got the equip to spare
[03:57] <ppibburr> Starfsih: what stats?
[03:57] <Wrec> nickrud has solved my issue with the default OS, but I've found that my separate /boot partition is not being used at all. We're currently working on how to get my separate partition to become useful
[03:57] <micromegas> hey
[03:57] <badkitty> jrib: It plays many dvd's but not the one I am trying.
[03:57] <erawfish> Wrec: k
[03:57] <Wrec> I've already given up on getting my wireless card to work in the new kernel because so many people have had unsolved problems
[03:57] <nickrud> Wrec: personally, I would not change to a separate boot partition if that's all you need to do
[03:58] <Wrec> so I'm trying to have the old kernel start on default
[03:58] <nickrud> s/need/want/ Wrec
[03:58] <erawfish> Wrec: curious: what chip?
[03:58] <jrib> badkitty: hmmm, that's kind of strange.  What kind of dvd?  Is it different than the others in some way?
[03:58] <mewshi> for those trying to get proper dual-head on an ATI chip, update to the newest driver directly from ATi
[03:58] <Wrec> umm, I had the exact error on a page somehwere...
[03:58] <Wrec> one sec
[03:58] <badkitty> jrib: No, Curb your Enthusiasm is the Title... funny stuff
[03:58] <rezourxe> badkitty: thx! im very graceful man... owe u one...
[03:58] <erawfish> Wrec: not error. chip
[03:59] <jrib> badkitty: all I can suggest is trying a different player like mplayer, vlc, gxine, or ogle
[03:59] <Agent_bob> Wrec mount the boot partition some place safe,  copy everything from the present /boot  to it, and remount it on /boot   add a line in fstab to automount it,  and reinstall the boot loader.   badabing you are done.
[03:59] <hou5ton> I have a webcam that is supposed to work out of the box .... and doesn't.  I've looked all over and can't find answers that work.  Get error message with Camorama:  "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[03:59] <badkitty> jrib: I tried with Totem and with VLC. VLC will play one chapter but its just the into...
[03:59] <Wrec> erawfish: AR2413
[04:00] <erawfish> sounds like exotirc atheros
[04:01] <jrib> badkitty: I'm not familiar with vlc and DVDs, but with mplayer you can specify 'mplayer dvd://4' for the 4th chapter for example
[04:02] <badkitty> jrib: Im gonna play with vlc a little more.
[04:02] <Wrec> D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510 Wireless, or AR2413 802.11bg NIC by atheros, same thing I believe
[04:02]  * gilda_ spots wireless
[04:03] <Agent_bob> root ?     people should not irc as root.
[04:03] <ppibburr> Starfish:
[04:03] <jw144000> I'm having trouble booting the Ubuntu 7.10 live CD. It used to boot when turning the computer on, but now it just goes straight to Windows, can anyone help?
[04:03] <Wrec> I'd have to catch you guys tomorrow for that error since I'd have to use my laptop running windows next to me to communicate.
[04:04] <ppibburr> Agen: ssh
[04:04] <Starfish> ppibburr:: a non-null message would be more helpful :)
[04:04] <LinuxGrasshopper> msg nickserv register <sean>
[04:04] <micromegas> are you sure your bios is set to boot from cd?
[04:04] <ogre> !virtualization
[04:04] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[04:04] <Creedence> jw144000, that's a BIOS setting. you need to set your CDrom to boot before your hard disk
[04:04] <bazhang> Wrec:  we await your return ;]
[04:04] <ogre> anyone know what happened to vmware in repos?
[04:04] <erawfish> Wrec: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros#AtherosAR5005G should work according to this.
[04:04] <WeedGrinch> Creedence, cant you just do it in the boot menu?
[04:04] <DIL> jw144000, do you know how to change boot order
[04:04] <bazhang> LinuxGrasshopper: umm better try that again ;]
[04:04] <ppibburr> starfish: check the web client plugin?
[04:04] <jw144000> DIL: No
[04:05] <redbrain> omg this is a huge channel i never feel alone using linux again hahaha
[04:05] <LinuxGrasshopper> lol
[04:05] <WeedGrinch> :D
[04:05] <gilda> lol welcome aboard redbrain
[04:05] <bazhang> ogre: it is fixed finally
[04:05] <micromegas> umm, this is the first time ever i'm using irc... and i'm on irssi. is there a way to filter out all the messages about people leaving and joining?
[04:05] <redbrain> :) ty gilda
[04:05] <SANTAbios> how do i remove my ssh server?
[04:05] <ogre> bazhang:  its not in the repos yet.
[04:05] <Agent_bob> bazhang and erawfish thank you both for your thoughts.   and sorry to cause a ruccus in here.   i go now.
[04:05] <bazhang> micromegas: get xchat ;]
[04:05] <SANTAbios> i t always screws
[04:05] <Falco98> new question:  can i set up a dual-boot situation with my current XP installation on the primary HDD, and ubuntu on a secondary HDD?
[04:05] <redbrain> get irssi :P
[04:05] <micromegas> oaky okay :P
[04:06] <SANTAbios> my ssh server sucks it stops responding how do i remove it
[04:06] <bazhang> ogre: for gutsy? vmware-server? you sure on that?
[04:06] <erawfish> Falco98: yes
[04:06] <Wrec> erawfish: it was working until today with the linux-header update
[04:06] <gilda> yes u can Falco98
[04:06] <Starnestommy> micromegas: /ignore #ubuntu joins quits parts?
[04:06] <DG19075> Falco98; yes
[04:06] <micromegas> but i guess xchat will have all that random text too...
[04:06] <LinuxGrasshopper> hey guys got a question about belkin routers; do they have a loopback function?
[04:06] <DIL> jw144000, when you boot it will eiher be F2, del, or f10, look for boot or something similar make cd the first device in boot order f10 save chages
[04:06] <bazhang> agent-bob no ruckus at all ;]
[04:06] <erawfish> Wrec: recompile madwifi drivers then
[04:06] <micromegas> oh, thanks, Starnestommy
[04:06] <jw144000> DIL: OK
[04:06] <Falco98> ok, so GRUB knows where to find a linux install either way, then?
[04:06] <SANTAbios> my ssh server sucks it stops responding how do i remove it
[04:06] <jw144000> brb
[04:06] <DG19075> yup
[04:06] <Falco98> i guess it just reconfigures the boot part on the main booting HDD either way?
[04:06] <erawfish> Falco98: yes. grub is smart
[04:06] <Falco98> cool
[04:06] <Falco98> thanx :-P
[04:06] <Wrec> erawfish: I'm not sure I have any madwifi drivers to begin with O.O
[04:07] <nickrud> Wrec: a rule of thumb: when you compile something for your kernel, you have to recompile for each kernel upgrade
[04:07] <dan_l> hey, does anybody have some time for some reinstall help?
[04:07] <erawfish> Falco98: no. it only reconfigures that when you tell it to. if you don't tell it to do it, your ubuntu just won't load
[04:07] <SANTAbios> how do i remove my ssh server?
[04:07] <ogre> bazhang:  im not seeing it at all. im just typing in vmware in synaptic and nothing comes up
[04:07] <SANTAbios>  help me
[04:07] <bazhang> ogre: you must not have the correct repos enabled--I just dl'd it a few days ago and it is brilliant
[04:07] <astro76> !repeat | SANTAbios
[04:07] <ubotu> SANTAbios: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:07] <LinuxGrasshopper> dan_l: what do you need help with?
[04:07] <Wrec> nickrud: was I compiling anything?
[04:07] <erawfish> Wrec: you better do when you want wlan, cause that's the drivers for your chip
[04:07] <micromegas> you mean uninstalling the ssh-server?
[04:07] <SANTAbios> how do i remove ssh from knonsole?
[04:07] <micromegas> sudo apt-get remove ssh-server?
[04:07] <tofaffy> How do I change my mysql password if I can't remember the original one I set?
[04:07] <ogre> bazhang:  universe? multiverse?
[04:08] <Noogen> Hammer: sorry, i also do not know how to start that from terminal *if it exist*.  Also, you have the infamous ati 200m video card .  What I can suggest next is?  1.  Check your  xorg.0.log for any error.  2.  Tweak your xorg.conf options such as disable composite.  3.  check for driver update if all else failed?
[04:08] <erawfish> SANTAbios: ssh is not ssh-server. different things
[04:08] <Wrec> erawfish: I must have them then because I"m using my wifi with that device right now
[04:08] <nickrud> Wrec: you must have at some time, to use the madwifi drivers. Or, how did you get your wireless working in the last kernel
[04:08] <bazhang> !info vmware-server | ogre
[04:08] <ubotu> ogre: Package vmware-server does not exist in gutsy
[04:08] <micromegas> (ssh is a client)
[04:08] <bazhang> wth!
[04:08] <dan_l> LinuxGrasshopper:  I'm deleting gutsy 64 and going to gutsy 386.  I'd like to know what best practices I should be performing.  I'm going to kill the ubuntu partition from windows and just use that as the place for the 386 install.
[04:08] <Wrec> nickrud: I have no. idea. haha
[04:08] <bazhang> ogre must be canonical gutsy partner then
[04:08] <ogre> bazhang:  thats what i was saying
[04:08] <erawfish> Wrec: ndiswrapper is the other choice. but let's not go there. so why are you asking about it if it works?
[04:08] <gilda> Wrec, what is your wireless issue if ur using it right now
[04:09] <ogre> bazhang:  i believe i have that repo enabled as well
[04:09] <nickrud> add   deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner   to your sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get  install vmware-server  ogre
[04:09] <Noogen> yeah, it's in the partner
[04:09] <bazhang> ogre I have that enabled and just got it via apt-get
[04:09] <astro76> SANTAbios: sudo apt-get remove openssh-server
[04:09] <Wrec> erawfish: my wireless issue only occurs in the new kernel. I'm using feisty's kernel right now, actually. The 2nd to most recent kernel gave me grub errors that I spent entire weekends trying to fix.
[04:09] <ogre> nickrud:  bazhang: thank you
[04:10] <bazhang> ogre it is super easy to setup--just need to go to www.vmware.com and get the free registration key
[04:10] <Wrec> how would I check if I'm using hte madwifi drivers
[04:10] <erawfish> Wrec: lsmod |grep ath
[04:10] <gilda> Wrec, one of the things that u need to make sure u have installed with the new kernel is the kernel headers and then u should be able to just modprobe ath_pci
[04:10] <gilda> and go from there
[04:10] <erawfish> or if any of your interfaces is named ath
[04:10] <kenalex> has anyone experienced any othe r compatibility issues with ubuntu x86_64 other than the macromedia flash issues ?
[04:10] <nickrud> Wrec: when it comes to wireless, erawfish knows much more than I do, I'll leave you in his capable hands
[04:10] <Starnestommy> kenalex: some java-related problems
[04:11] <Wrec> nickrud: okay, thanks for all the help, man.
[04:11] <d0uglas> hi. i got 4 hard drives and i want to merge them into two pairs, one mirroring the other. Do i want to use software raid or lvm for this, and if raid, is that raid 1? thanks
[04:11] <d0uglas> (four 300gig drives, so 600gig total storage mirrored)
[04:11] <nerdatron> Hey folks, just installed ubuntu 7.10 (desktop) and wondering what order I should install certain server apps
[04:11] <Wrec> nickrud: one of the greatest part about linux, the community.
[04:11] <kenalex> oh well might as well use the 32bit version of ubuntu
[04:11] <nickrud> Wrec: yeah, we troll here for people to help :)
[04:11] <erawfish> nerdatron: there is no order
[04:11] <SANTAbios> isanyone in hear smart
[04:11] <gilda> nerdatron, you only need to install certain serve apps if u plan on using em
[04:11] <SANTAbios> how do i remove the ssh server on ubuntu
[04:11] <StaticSignal> Hey, everyone! I'm having an issue with Pidgin. It used to start up just fine, but after I ran some updates, it won't even launch. Being really new at this, I don't know how to troubleshoot! Someone want to take a crack at this one?
[04:11] <SANTAbios> how do i remove the ssh server on ubuntu, someone smart just help me out
[04:11] <astro76> SANTAbios: I just answered that quetion for you a minute ago
[04:12] <nickrud> SANTAbios: sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-sever
[04:12] <erawfish> StaticSignal: apt-get remove openssh-server
[04:12] <Wrec> erawfish: ath_rate_sample        14080  1
[04:12] <Wrec> ath_pci                97312  0
[04:12] <Wrec> wlan                  204868  5 wlan_wep,wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:12] <Wrec> ath_hal               192592  3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[04:12] <erawfish> !paste | Wrec
[04:12] <ubotu> Wrec: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <erawfish> and yes you use madwifi
[04:12] <jw144000> DIL: I changed the boot order to have the CD-ROM boot first, and the Live CD still wouldn't load. :|
[04:12] <reZo> hello, i have a problem with my gtk2 theme, i'm creating it in conjunction with mac menu gtk2 hack. the background "panel-bg.png" displays for every *tested* application other then nautilus. tested are epiphany, gnome-terminal and other gtk2 applications. is there a special setting nautilus uses with the gnome-panel background or something?
[04:12] <WeedGrinch> staticsignal: sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[04:12] <WeedGrinch> then install
[04:12] <Wrec> erawfish: okay, how do I got about update those
[04:12] <Wrec> go about*
[04:13] <erawfish> Wrec: module-assistant (under the new kernel)
[04:13] <gilda> jw144000, what happens when u do stick in the live cd then ?
[04:13] <sethk> jw144000, try burning another copy
[04:13] <erawfish> !module-assistant
[04:13] <jw144000> gilda: I see the Ubuntu logo show up
[04:13] <erawfish> ubotu: you are a bot severely lacking in information
[04:13] <gilda> and then jw144000 ?
[04:14] <dan_l> New kernel killed my wifiz.
[04:14] <nickrud> !info module-assistant
[04:14] <ubotu> module-assistant (source: module-assistant): tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.11 (gutsy), package size 97 kB, installed size 508 kB
[04:14] <gilda> jw144000, did you try booting in safe grafix mode ?
[04:14] <jw144000> I see a screen telling me to boot Ubuntu from the CD, and some stuff about Firefox, Thunderbird, etc
[04:14] <dan_l> Or new "colonel" as I like to call it.
[04:14] <jw144000> gilda: No
[04:14] <protoloco> i would like to log mysql-bin.00* for 20/30 minutos and then read it by another mysql server... (like benchmarking) how can i do that ?
[04:14] <sethk> jw144000, that's what you are supposed to see, so what's the problem?
[04:15] <gilda> lol
[04:15] <jw144000> sethk: I can't get the CD to boot when turning the computer on
[04:15] <erawfish> nickrud: of course the repos have it. but ubotu doesn't know anything about it
[04:15] <nerdatron2> server apps install order: apache2->MySQL->PHP->SVN  anyone see any problems with that order?
[04:15] <Noogen> he probably got a bug that froze during livecd boot
[04:15] <jw144000> I'm trying to get to a live session of Ubuntu
[04:15] <erawfish> !lamp | nerdatron
[04:15] <ubotu> nerdatron: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:15] <DIL> jw144000, ensure your cd did not fail can you use the cd
[04:15] <sethk> jw144000, if you see the menu about booting from the CD, you _have_ booted from the cd
[04:16] <WeedGrinch> sethk
[04:16] <WeedGrinch> not nessicarily
[04:16] <Mudassar> hi
[04:16] <WeedGrinch> excuse my spelling :p
[04:16] <sethk> WeedGrinch, certainly necessarily
[04:16] <nerdatron2> ahh thanks erawfish
[04:16] <SANTAbios> so i delted my ssh directory, so now im fucked, how do i reinstall it?
[04:16] <edju> wireless is up, but iwconfig doesn't show an ip.  is that normal?
[04:16] <Mudassar> Is there any body who can give me some time ?
[04:16] <WeedGrinch> sethk, even when I dont have a CD in, it still asks that
[04:16] <Creedence> jw144000, that's a BIOS setting. you need to set your CDrom to boot before your hard disk
[04:16] <Creedence> hi everyone. I am looking for a program to sync files from a network drive (samba) to my ubuntu laptop. Sort of like Windows offline files. Any ideas?
[04:16] <nickrud> erawfish: I that's a nice thing about ubotu, you can suggest a factoid:   ubotu  <factoid> is <text>
[04:16] <gilda> iwconfig does not show ip's ifconfig does
[04:16] <jw144000> Creedence: I just did that
[04:16] <Creedence> jw144000, sorry
[04:16] <sethk> WeedGrinch, then you've installed the cd equivalent of grub onto the hard drive
[04:17] <WeedGrinch> jw140000, fit f12 when you boot
[04:17] <Creedence> jw144000, hit the up button :P
[04:17] <nickrud> erawfish: the couple things I suggested were acted on in a couple hours
[04:17] <Mudassar> HELLO EVERYBODY
[04:17] <sethk> WeedGrinch, not you, sorry, jw144000
[04:17] <WeedGrinch> sethk, before i install ubuntu, without having a CD in, it asks that
[04:17] <erawfish> nickrud: I don't know enough about how ubuntu does it. but the way ubuntu updates their kernels simply stinks :P
[04:17] <jmlane> I have two drives on my ubuntu... I want to use one as the OS filesystem and use the other to hold stuff like the contents of /home and my FTP server documents. Is this possible and how would be the best way to do it?
[04:17] <SANTAbios> so i delted my ssh directory, can anyone please  help ubuntu support sux
[04:17] <kenalex> wow virtual box is fast
[04:17] <RaskahRat> Hello =)
[04:17] <jmlane> Two hard drives in the machine, that is
[04:17] <WeedGrinch> santabios, Ubuntu support owns!
[04:17] <sethk> WeedGrinch, it asks you if you want to boot from the CD in general?  YOu said it prints a message listing firefox as an option.
[04:18] <sethk> WeedGrinch, worry, I keep aiming wrong.
[04:18] <SANTAbios> how do i reinstall ssh when i manualy deleted it?
[04:18] <YouKnowMe> SANTAbios, recreate it?
[04:18] <SANTAbios> how?
[04:18] <Starnestommy> SANTAbios: sudo apt-get install ssh?
[04:18] <sethk> SANTAbios, there's a force flag
[04:18] <erawfish> then suggest them to provide better support for user compiled or non-free kernel extensions ubunut ships. like madwifi
[04:18] <jw144000> BRB
[04:18] <tofaffy> SANTAbios, try apt-get autoremove ssh then reinstall it...
[04:18] <WeedGrinch> sethk. firefox? huh?
[04:18] <erawfish> so it will work when kernels are updated
[04:18] <astro76> SANTAbios: you should give the sucks comments a ret
[04:18] <gilda> SANTAbios, you were told multiple times how to properly remove the open-ssh set you had installed
[04:18] <Creedence> SANTAbios, sudo apt-get reinstall ssh
[04:18] <astro76> *rest
[04:18] <nickrud> erawfish: its all this 'taint' and 'blob' stuff. I just knuckle under, I'll take the fanatical work :)
[04:18] <sethk> Starnestommy, no, the package manager doesn't know he deleted it
[04:19] <Starnestommy> sudo aptitude reinstall ssh?
[04:19] <sethk> tofaffy, has a good suggestion, or, use dpkg with the force flag
[04:19] <erawfish> normally m-a does this, however ubuntu prefers to ship restricted debs. if they do that they have to live with the consequences or stuff breaks. like Wrec's
[04:19] <sethk> Starnestommy, that's better  :)
[04:19] <Wrec> erawfish: thanks for the help, I'll be back tomorrow
[04:19] <heatmzzr_> i cant figure it out, other machine seems to have same files but still wont play dvd. beginning to piss me off.
[04:19] <Mudassar> HOW CAN I CONTRIBUTE IN UBUNTU ?
[04:19] <WeedGrinch> !caps
[04:19] <sherl0k> you might want to 'sudo aptitude purge ssh' first
[04:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:19] <WeedGrinch> :)
[04:19] <sherl0k> to remove all the confis
[04:19] <sherl0k> configs*
[04:19] <gilda> Mudassar, help out lend a hand thats how u can help
[04:19] <astro76> !contribute | Mudassar
[04:19] <ubotu> Mudassar: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[04:19] <nickrud> dang, and just when erawfish gave me the clue to fix wrec's wireless
[04:20] <erawfish> I understand why ubuntu does this, cause debian people have enough problems telling newbies how to use m-a (which sucks in its own ways) but it is at least a solution, even when it's a bad one
[04:20] <Mudassar> sir i need a little help if someone can guide me
[04:20] <SANTAbios> sethl how do i force flag i delted the ssh directory, and now i cant remove it or reinstall it, god i hate ubuntu
[04:20] <RaskahRat> I have set my /home to be on a mounted partition that i now want to install another OS onto. Is there any easy way to make home part of the / filesystem? i figured that i can enable and log in a root in a terminal and just unmount /home make another dir for it and remove it from fstab but i'm thinking there is an easier way.
[04:20] <WeedGrinch> !codec
[04:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <SANTAbios> sethl how do i force flag i delted the ssh directory, and now i cant remove it or reinstall it, god i hate ubuntu
[04:20] <Mudassar> actually I m just shifted to Linux...
[04:21] <gilda> just ask the question Mudassar
[04:21] <Mudassar> gilda, can we talk in private ?
[04:21] <visualdensity> \quit
[04:21] <WeedGrinch> Ask it!
[04:21] <MrBig> my ubuntu server often freezes connection (all protocols: ssh, www, svn...) after few minutes, if I want to reconnect, just give him a ping then it works fine. What do you guys think about this? It's quite annoying
[04:21] <nickrud> erawfish: I didn't realize madwifi was in restricted, usually people that miss out on restricted don't have linux-generic installed. That will pull in restricted modules and ubuntu-backported modules
[04:22] <Mudassar> I just installed Linux with ubuntu distribution... it's marvellous
[04:22] <WeedGrinch> :)
[04:22] <WeedGrinch> Glad to hear ya like it
[04:22] <gilda> yay
[04:22] <Mudassar> so it attracted me to contribute in it.
[04:22] <WeedGrinch> mudassar, have you installed beryl?
[04:22] <Dezine> Yes, Ubuntu is wonderful and surely an eye opener.
[04:22] <gigamonkey> Is there some more clever way to completely remove Evolution than going into Synaptic and marking for removal everything with "evolution" in the name?
[04:22] <Mudassar> I have made it like MAC OSX Leopard
[04:22] <WeedGrinch> Nice
[04:23] <macabro22> hello can I  just installed Alsa from source (i NEED to -- my sound card isn't well supported by the repo version) and I think the module isn't being loaded properly. No sound devices are being detected. Can someone help me ensure the ALSA module is loaded ?
[04:23] <sethk> nickrud, madwifi has a binary layer in a subdirectory.  There's a project to replace it with an open source layer, but Atheros sicked lawyers on them and slowed them down.
[04:23] <gigamonkey> I marked just "evolution" for Complete Removal but there are still other packages that seem to be part of evalution that are not marked for removal.
[04:23] <alohamilkyway> having difficulty using my speedtouch 330 usb modem on my ubuntu feisty computer
[04:23] <nickrud> sethk: like I mentioned earlier, 'blobs' . I understand why they were stripped upstream
[04:23] <Mudassar> I want a place where I can learn the basics of Linux, its architecture and basic modals... so that I can start working in it.. I know the OS, Programming, networks and other concepts..
[04:23] <zelrikriando> hey do you know what is ubuntu-desktop for?
[04:23] <ghost> Is Debian a lighter weight distro than ubuntu? I have an aging notebook that I want a lighter distro on. I know you can streamline ubuntu but I don't really know how to do that. I guess its possible to install 'ubuntu-base' with the alternate disk?
[04:24] <astro76> !docs | Mudassar
[04:24] <ubotu> Mudassar: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:24] <SANTAbios> how to i force something to uninstall
[04:24] <WeedGrinch> lol
[04:24] <WeedGrinch> what do you want to install?
[04:24] <sethk> nickrud, yes, I know, I was adding the fact that there's a group trying to fix the problem.
[04:24] <nickrud> zelrikriando: it's a list of packages/applications that are selected to create a nice working desktop and default applications
[04:24] <alohamilkyway> having difficulty using my speedtouch 330 usb modem on my ubuntu feisty computer, i did all the firmware stuff, but still doenst work
[04:24] <SANTAbios> my ssh wont uninstall it says error, no one has help me with working solution
[04:24] <Mudassar> Document is for reference, I need a place where I can learn the things step by step...
[04:24] <Mudassar> I can work in C++, Java ... any language..
[04:24] <panfist> what is the preferred method to login to a graphical environment on an ubuntu machine remotely. i don't need to share desktop sessions, actually no one would ever want to log in at the physical terminal
[04:24] <astro76> Mudassar: the rute guide I had ubotu point out is a good start
[04:24] <WeedGrinch> sudo apt-get reinstall ssh
[04:24] <SANTAbios> no one
[04:24] <gilda> what do u want to learn Mudassar
[04:24] <SANTAbios> reinstasll is not a command
[04:25] <nickrud> sethk: yeah. Real Soon Now (and thanks to the lawyers, not so soon. [choose personal favorite cuss words])
[04:25] <WeedGrinch> oh :$
[04:25] <SANTAbios> reinstall
[04:25] <WeedGrinch> lol
[04:25] <astro76> SANTAbios: becaue everytime you asked a question you capped it with an insult, what do you expect?
[04:25] <alohamilkyway> anyone who can help me?
[04:25] <SANTAbios> sorry
[04:25] <Starnestommy> SANTAbios: sudo aptitude reinstall package-name
[04:25] <Mudassar> I want to learn the basics of Linux ... as I m new in it... and then I want to be expert system programmer..
[04:25] <WeedGrinch> :)
[04:25] <sethk> nickrud, also making the point that Atheros is not open source friendly
[04:25] <SANTAbios> just pissed
[04:25] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I see somebody advicing to remove it on a forum
[04:25] <ghost> Is Debian a lighter weight distro than ubuntu? I have an aging notebook that I want a lighter distro on. I know you can streamline ubuntu but I don't really know how to do that. I guess its possible to install 'ubuntu-base' with the alternate disk?
[04:25] <nickrud> sethk: Is any wireless opens source friendly? I simply don't know
[04:25] <zelrikriando> to fix some color issue...
[04:25] <erawfish> !errors | alohamilkyway
[04:25] <ubotu> alohamilkyway: If you have problems or errors, you will need to describe/paste them. Please use the !pastebin for errors that cannot be quoted in a single IRC message
[04:25] <LibertyShadow> is there a command to find if you are using AIGLX or XGL... when it comes to rendering I am a noob
[04:25] <erawfish> nickrud: yes. ralink sorta
[04:26] <LibertyShadow> ultra-noob that is
[04:26] <gilda> Mudassar, the basics - are kinda all over the place the best place to start with learning would suggest learning the command line
[04:26] <WeedGrinch> !blender
[04:26] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[04:26] <sethk> nickrud,  Yes.  There are fully open source drivers for some Marvell chipsets and the Intel 2200
[04:26] <Noogen> i have gutsy server.  When I boot using server image, sound works find.  Generic image aplay -l said sound not found?  anyone ever ran into the same issue?
[04:26] <WeedGrinch> :D yes!
[04:26] <nickrud> zelrikriando: it's ok to remove, it's only a list. But when it comes time to upgrade to the   next release, you should reinstall it
[04:26] <Mudassar> hmmm
[04:26] <erawfish> nickrud: and intel is fairly open sauce friendly too. soon atheros will be
[04:26] <Mudassar> yes
[04:26] <Mudassar> I m learning the command line
[04:26] <DIL> ghosy, how old, i have ubuntu on a gateway solo and it works fine
[04:26] <Mudassar> can we talk in private ?
[04:26] <DIL> ghost, how old, i have ubuntu on a gateway solo and it works fine
[04:26] <erawfish> nickrud: the new WLAN stack could be avery very nice
[04:27] <nickrud> sethk: erawfish thanks. it gives me something to recommend if I'm asked. I've been keeping my mouth shut on that stuff
[04:27] <gilda> i dont tend to talk to much in private unless dealing with a issue
[04:27] <zelrikriando> nickrud: my issue is a color problem when reading videos formats with vlc
[04:27] <sethk> nickrud, I researched it because I was choosing which chipset to use with the product I'm working on.
[04:27] <pawan> how to play rm files
[04:27] <ghost> DIL It works, but I am looking for something with a smaller footprint
[04:27] <astro76> Mudassar: despite the fact that this http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz is a document, it's also a tutorial ;)
[04:27] <erawfish> pawan: helixplayer
[04:27] <ghost> IE i want it to run faster
[04:28] <DIL> ghost, k
[04:28] <Mudassar> thanks
[04:28] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I've not had any problems with vlc, why are they suggesting removing the ubuntu-desktop package?
[04:28] <ghost> DIL any suggestions?
[04:28] <pawan> how to install
[04:28] <heatmzzr_> i want to watch dvd's this thing is kicking my as
[04:28] <Alysum> hello how do I find out my CPU clock speed in a terminal ? tks
[04:28] <erawfish> !dvd
[04:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:28] <erawfish> Alysum: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:28] <zelrikriando> nickrud: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-254264.html
[04:28] <dxdt> ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package.  You can actually remove it and it doesn't like remove your desktop.  It simply is a metapackage that is a list of the basic components that come with the standard desktop.
[04:28] <sethk> nickrud, there are also some USB/Wifi chipsets that have fully open source drivers.
[04:28] <astro76> !install | pawan
[04:28] <ubotu> pawan: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:28] <SANTAbios> how do i restart ssh server so i can putty into it anyone?
[04:28] <DIL> ghost, puppy?
[04:29] <pawan> how to install helixplayer
[04:29] <ghost> DIL is that a debian like? I am kinda addicted to apt
[04:29] <Starnestommy> SANTAbios: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[04:29] <jw144000> DIL: I checked my settings again, and I have the CD-ROM set to boot first. It still wouldn't boot the CD.
[04:29] <erawfish> SANTAbios: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:29] <gilda> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh ( or damon name ) start
[04:29] <gigamonkey> What about gnome-terminal; is it similar to ubuntu-desktop. I tried to uninstall some screensaver and Synaptic said it was also going to remove gnome-terminal.
[04:29] <erawfish> ghost: how much RAM do you have?
[04:29] <sethk> jw144000, do you have any other bootable CDs?  Try one, to see whether the problem is the computer or the cd itself.
[04:29] <Mudassar> thanks for the tutorial
[04:29] <Starnestommy> gigamonkey: that's just a terminal emulator
[04:30] <Mudassar> I will start reading and practicing it
[04:30] <jw144000> sethk: I just tried a Windows XP CD to see if it would boot, it wouldn't.
[04:30] <DIL> jw144000, from what you described earlier you were in the live cd
[04:30] <nickrud> zelrikriando: there's no real reason to remove totem-gstreamer , you could replace it with totem-xine . And I don't see where removing totem-gstreamer would affect vlc anyway
[04:30] <gilda> gnome terminal gigamonkey is part of the ubuntu desktop package but it is just a front end for a terminal
[04:30] <astro76> Mudassar: enjoy ;)
[04:30] <ghost> 512
[04:30] <Mudassar> I have configured many things in Linux (ubuntu)
[04:30] <ghost> IBM t30, its not 'that' old
[04:30] <erawfish> ghost: that's plenty for even ubuntu itself.
[04:30] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok...
[04:30] <Mudassar> but I am not able to configure Wifi Wireless Lan and share my internet
[04:30] <sethk> jw144000, ok, then we won't waste time reburning the cd.  All the likely things you've already tried, so we are down to unlikely things
[04:30] <nickrud> zelrikriando: seriously, they don't interact at all
[04:30] <erawfish> ghost: things like puppy are for 32MB machines
[04:31] <ghost> erawfish, yes, but I don't want to go through the hassle of uninstalling half of ubuntu's features to make a lighter os
[04:31] <DIL> jw144000, if you see firefox click on it you will get to the net
[04:31] <sethk> jw144000, I've occasionally been able to fix this sort of problem by using "load default values" in the BIOS setup.
[04:31] <sethk> jw144000, it's not likely to work, but it shouldn't hurt anything either.
[04:31] <gilda> ghost, starting with the server edition and building your way up can make it a little lighter
[04:31] <ghost> basically i need to customise my kernel and clean up my init scripts but thats to much work
[04:31] <erawfish> ghost: but it's still better than puppy for your machine
[04:31] <sethk> jw144000, you may simply have a bad cd drive.  They tend to break all at once, not gradually.
[04:32] <YouKnowMe> erawfish, or DSL, DSL has a better GUI
[04:32] <erawfish> ghost: install debian and do a light install without all the bells and whistles. e.. install a minimal gnome
[04:32] <gigamonkey> gilda: thanks. So how about completely uninstalling Evolution? There seem to be a lot of packages with "evolution" in the name and they don't all get marked for removal when I mark "evolution" for Complete Removal.
[04:32] <erawfish> YouKnowMe: those mini distros are all the same. sorta
[04:32] <ghost> erawfish thats what I was thinking
[04:32] <YouKnowMe> sethk, I would doubt that if ha can burn the cd in the first place, or did he use a different comp?
[04:32] <juan> anybody familiar with cairo-dock?
[04:32] <ghost> I would do like a slackware install but without apt- its a dealreaker
[04:32] <nickrud> I can't see installing ubuntu unless you want the full desktop.
[04:32] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok, so you know any other things to try?
[04:32] <astro76> ghost: have you considered xfce/xubuntu ?
[04:32] <ghost> astro76, that was my other idea
[04:32] <jw144000> sethk: I'm going to try it on a different comp, brb
[04:33] <sethk> YouKnowMe, I don't know, but everything that breaks worked before it broke.
[04:33] <sethk> jw144000, k
[04:33] <ghost> but does that not still load all the hardware features that i will never use?
[04:33] <nickrud> zelrikriando: you need to describe the problem better I think
[04:33] <astro76> ghost: it's really just gnome making your low-specced machine seem slow
[04:33] <gilda> gigamonkey evolution is part of the ubuntu-desktop package and removing all bits and traces of it may tend to throw off things that are built on the backend of it
[04:33] <YouKnowMe> sethk, touche :)
[04:33] <sethk> YouKnowMe, so, unless you thing things last forever ... :)
[04:33] <zelrikriando> nickrud: when I open a .ogg file with vlc, I have the colors wrong
[04:33] <astro76> ghost: that's not significant unless kernel memory footprint is an issue, plus many things are loadable kernel modules now anyway
[04:33] <zelrikriando> nickrud: that is too blue or too red...
[04:34] <gigamonkey> gilda: hmmm. anything that I'm likely to care about assuming I don't care about Evolution itself?
[04:34] <gilda> gigamonkey, i am not sure off the top of my head
[04:34] <DIL> we arent all born knowing linux
[04:34]  * bruenig is glad he was
[04:34] <zozobra> anyone here have experience with both ext3 and xfs file systems that would like to recommend one?
[04:34] <YouKnowMe> lol
[04:34] <usmc138> Anyone know if Kde or Xfce are faster then gnome?
[04:35] <zozobra> @usmc138 xfce is faster
[04:35] <ghost> astro76 so maybe then xfce is just the way to go
[04:35] <bazhang> flux is usmc138
[04:35] <usmc138> thx
[04:35] <bruenig> xfce is for sure, kde is questionable
[04:35] <YouKnowMe> usmc138, I like fluxbox
[04:35] <zozobra> flux is great
[04:35] <sethk> zozobra, hard to say anything intelligent without knowing how you are going to use it.  xfs is in some ways better, but ext3 is more commonly used and is also quite good.
[04:35] <gilda> usmc138, for speed given those choices xfce is faster
[04:35] <bruenig> openbox is good
[04:35] <nickrud> zelrikriando: are you running compiz?
[04:35] <usmc138> im a linux newb and have tried kde and gnome but not xfce
[04:35] <astro76> ghost: probably, anything but gnome or kde
[04:35] <gigamonkey> gilda: If I do what you just suggested to ghost a few moments ago, about installing a server setup and then adding, rather than a desktop setup and then removing, what am I going to be missing?
[04:36] <bazhang> fluxbuntu is very lightweight usmc138
[04:36] <usmc138> ive never heard of flux actually
[04:36] <ghost> astro76, would a conversion be easy?
[04:36] <bazhang> #fluxbuntu
[04:36]  * nickrud read back and thinks bruenig must be a bot, knowing linux since he was born
[04:36] <zozobra> @sethk...i plan on setting up a 300GB disk to hold mp3s, dvd ISOs, and 300-600mb video files.
[04:36] <gilda> gigamonkey, initially with the server edition you have nothing but the command line
[04:36] <sethk> gigamonkey, whatever you might be missing can still be installed.
[04:36] <astro76> ghost: sure you can apt-get install xubuntu-desktop from your current system
[04:36] <Kuwanger> Is there any way I can have a certain key combination not be lockable by any app but a specific one, so I can use it to kill an errant task?
[04:36] <gilda> gigamonkey, anything else can be installed
[04:36] <ghost> astro76 probably to many gnome apps already loaded though that will want the glibs?
[04:36] <gigamonkey> gilda: I see. No X at all. No Gnome.
[04:36] <jw144000> sethk: I just tried it on another computer and it worked. :/ I never got the menu with "Start or install Ubuntu" on this computer.
[04:36] <zelrikriando> nickrud: yes
[04:36] <gilda> gigamonkey, correct
[04:36] <gigamonkey> But presumably not with Synaptic. ;-)
[04:36] <sethk> zozobra, I'd stay with ext3 in that case.
[04:37] <sethk> jw144000, ok, swap the cd drives between the two machines.
[04:37] <astro76> ghost: not an issue unless you run programs that use those libs... there are instructions available if you want to remove all traces of gnome (or kde) and have the same as a newly installed xubuntu
[04:37] <usmc138> well im out, gotta use windows to use my tvtuner
[04:37] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok, video playback and compiz is a tricky issue right now. You should be asking on #compiz-fusion for the latest info on it
[04:37] <kenalex> is it true windows vista comes with a packet sniffer installed
[04:37] <YouKnowMe> jw144000, meet me in #thischannel ?
[04:37] <zozobra> @sethk, would you recommend ext3 over reiserfs or jfs as well for my use?
[04:37] <ghost> link?
[04:37] <sethk> zozobra, only because I haven't used xfs with very large partitions.  I don't know that it's a problem, in fact I doubt it, but I can't be sure.
[04:37] <ghost> astro76, is that on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:37] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I used to disable compiz to watch movies, right now I don't use it at all
[04:37] <astro76> !purekde | ghost
[04:37] <ubotu> ghost: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[04:37] <sethk> zozobra, stay away from reiser; it's trouble.  Jfs is also good.
[04:38] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I ll try to disable compiz to check
[04:38] <nickrud> zelrikriando: create the file  ~/.config/compiz/disable , that should disable compiz on your next login
[04:38] <zelrikriando> nickrud: disabling it didnt fix the issue
[04:39] <erawfish> ghost: damnsmalllinux uses apt btw
[04:39] <ghost> erawfish, ok
[04:39] <nickrud> zelrikriando: do you get proper color in other media?
[04:39] <zozobra> @sethk, is it correct that because jfs is journaled that a power outage will cause major corruption in the file system?
[04:39] <nickrud> zelrikriando: or other players?
[04:39] <sethk> zozobra, no, the reverse
[04:39] <astro76> zozobra: journaling systems are better with failures, not worse
[04:39] <zelrikriando> nickrud: opening the same media in MPlayer has the right colors
[04:39] <nickrud> !puregnome
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <imagin1> Hey I have an issue with mounting SSHFS with /etc/fstab and it says connection reset by peer.. when I use ssh 192.168.0.103 it works tho. (manually)
[04:40] <imagin1> any idea
[04:40] <zelrikriando> nickrud: but some other problems appear :)
[04:40] <sethk> zozobra, the purpose of journaling is precisely to recover from such situations.
[04:40] <sethk> zozobra, note, however, the ext3 is also a journaling file system
[04:40] <sethk> zozobra, ext3 is ext2 + journaling
[04:40] <lxuser> Hello.
[04:40] <nickrud> zelrikriando: do you have the medibuntu repos enabled, or any other third party repository?
[04:41] <gilda> well gigamonkey you would have apt to run synaptic is the front end application for apt / aptitude
[04:41] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I do
[04:41] <sethk> zozobra, especially with such a large drive, you want journaling to prevent fsck from running after a crash and tying up your box for quite a while
[04:41] <lxuser> Okay so I'm in need of some basic help
[04:41] <nickrud> zelrikriando: me, I would disable those and revert to the ubuntu packages. I only pull libdvdcss and w32codecs from medibuntu directly
[04:41] <gilda> just ask the question
[04:42] <lxuser> I am trying to figure out my working :D
[04:42] <panfist> how can i use xming, or cygwin, to log into an ubuntu machine remotely
[04:42] <lxuser> *wording
[04:42] <DIL> lxuser, ahhummm let me guess
[04:42] <gilda> lol
[04:42] <zelrikriando> nickrud: how do I do that
[04:42] <nickrud> zelrikriando: It reduces the possible sources of problems to known packages
[04:42] <gigamonkey> gilda: Yeah. BTW, is there some reason that apt keeps hanging on rather than being replaced/hidden by aptitude? I thought the latter was supposed to be far better.
[04:42] <nickrud> zelrikriando: system->admin->software sources , third party tab
[04:43] <gilda> gigamonkey, preferance ?
[04:43] <[-Delta-]> Okay wording: First thing: I'm using a panasonic Toughbook CF-52. Basic problem: my screen is wide screen but boxes and other such things dont use it fully. The desktop background and mouse can go onto the edges but its like there is a invisible barrier.
[04:43] <nickrud> gigamonkey: I hear it on impeccable authority that ubuntu is sticking with apt, and is adding functionality that aptitude won't have any time soon. Mostly authentication I hear
[04:44] <zozobra> @sethk, thanks a lot for your help!
[04:44] <xGeek> I personally like apt.
[04:44]  * rainwalker hearts apt
[04:44] <sethk> nickrud, isn't aptitude just another apt front end?
[04:44] <benanzo> I need to be able to SSH to my home computer using putty on windows while I'm at work.  I have set up a nonpriviledged user on my computer with it's own key so my regular key is never stored on my work computer. If I password protect the private key is there any danger of someone getting a hold of it at my work?
[04:44] <gilda> lol ive never used aptitude
[04:44] <zelrikriando> nickrud: so I disable all the medibuntu repos and then what?
[04:44] <xGeek> aptitude is the gui package manager?
[04:44] <bazhang> nay
[04:44] <nickrud> sethk: yes, but it doesn't necessarily use all the methods exposed by the apt libraries
[04:44] <rainwalker> xGeek: no the GUI package manager is synaptic
[04:44] <astro76> benanzo: since it's encrypted with a password, they wont' be able to do anything with it
[04:45] <sethk> benanzo, unanswerable.  If someone can get physical access to a machine, he can get data from it unless the entire file system is encrypted.
[04:45] <nickrud> sethk: that is, the new ones.
[04:45]  * xGeek have never used anything except apt ... I've only used gnome and kde on rare occasions at friends houses
[04:45] <xGeek> ubuntu is my server os only :/
[04:45]  * gilda uses ubuntu as desktop os 
[04:46] <benanzo> OK, I was just wondering if it's safe to store the password protected private key on my work computer so I can use it to access my home computer
[04:46] <sethk> xGeek, that doesn't mean you can't run gui applications.  You install only the client X libraries (which are very small) on the server, and you use a workstation to be the X server
[04:46] <nickrud> zelrikriando: system->admin->synaptic, press the Origin button.
[04:46] <sethk> benanzo, impossible to answer, really.  Windows is not known for its defensive prowess
[04:46] <DIL> benanzo, dangerous stuff do they have a privacy banner at work "no expectation of privacy"
[04:46] <zhanx> i started using my new removeable drive to store my home movies. but it keeps giving me errors and losing the files.. i fsck it and it had some errors is there a way to get the files back so i font have to redo the whole movie again
[04:46] <benanzo> sethk: no one will have physical access to my home computer.  I'm just wondering if it's safe to store my password-protected private key on my work computer
[04:46] <zelrikriando> nickrud: the origin button?
[04:46] <nickrud> zelrikriando: the ones that are Local/* came from medibuntu
[04:46] <xGeek> sethk: like a thin client?\
[04:46] <sethk> benanzo, the simple thing to do is to type the password and not use the key
[04:47] <nickrud> zelrikriando: lower left of the synaptic window
[04:47] <macabro22> Hello I tried to install ALSA from source and broke my audio ( I did because my microphone wouldn't work). Now I can't seem to undo what I did. Sudo make unistall wont do. If I use the live CD sound works. How can I fix that please? I ve been looking fo a fix all day. Can someone please help me out?
[04:47] <sethk> benanzo, I meant physical access to your work computer, not home
[04:47] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[04:47] <macabro22> cd #debian
[04:47] <astro76> benanzo: hmm I disagree, better to use a key encrypted by a strong passphrae
[04:47] <sethk> macabro22, you can force a reinstall from the repositories.
[04:47] <nickrud> zelrikriando: hm, you should go about this another way, I think.
[04:47] <gilda> benanzo, better not connect from work if that concerned
[04:48] <macabro22> sethk: ok, let's try that
[04:48] <difekta> i made a mistake when i was upgrading to hardy alpha 4, and decided to keep my pulse.conf.  how can i re-install and initialize pulseaudio so this file is re-created properly?
[04:48] <nickrud> zelrikriando: big changes remotely are delicate, I wanna do this without breaking things.
[04:48] <sethk> gilda, benanzo, it's fine to connect.  Having the private key eliminates typing the password; if you don't mind typing the password you don't need the key.
[04:48] <difekta> sudo dpkg-reconfigure libpulse0 didn't seem to do it.
[04:48] <zhanx> is there a way to recover lost files on ext3?
[04:48] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am listening :)
[04:49] <nickrud> difekta: sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudo && sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[04:49] <sethk> zhanx, sometimes, but not a practical way, really.
[04:49] <astro76> sethk: you can have a password with a private key, in fact this is the only safe way to use key authentication
[04:49] <difekta> nickrud thank you.
[04:49] <cvd> hey, its there a boot cd or something to repair mbr?
[04:49] <gilda> i have no concernes with connecting sethk but saying if it was that vital he not have it go out then why set it up
[04:49] <benanzo> But if I password protect the key then it's useless without the password.  Plus it's only good for a nonpriviledged user on my computer which I can the 'su user' to my normal user once connected
[04:49] <astro76> passwordless private key is a whole different story
[04:49] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I'm gonna be off the net in 10 minutes. I will be back on in about 40. OK?
[04:49] <sethk> astro76, I didn't say you can't have a password with a private key.  I said you aren't _required_ to have one.
[04:49] <benanzo> Does that sound safe at all?
[04:49] <benanzo> or am I missing something
[04:49] <zhanx> sethk, i dont want to have to redo 3 movies and all the editing so...
[04:49] <zelrikriando> nickrud: :S it s late here
[04:50] <astro76> sethk: I am actually answering benanzo
[04:50] <astro76> question though ;)
[04:50] <DIL> dont do it maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
[04:50] <sethk> astro76, and there is absolutely nothing unsafe about the ssh connection where you type the password.  The password is not sent in clear text, and it's protected against replay attacks.
[04:50] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I'm at work, and heading home in 10. I could be available tomorrow, about 7pm pst
[04:50] <cvd> ?
[04:50] <ghost> I AM IN LOVE!
[04:50] <sethk> astro76, I know, but it isn't true that it's unsafe without the key
[04:50] <ghost> so much faster
[04:51] <ghost> but MAN is xubuntu fugly
[04:51] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok, I ll try to wait for you tonight
[04:51] <[-Delta-]> Ack, I feel retarded, somone help me get the basics set up (VLC, codecs, Resolution setup, wifi ready)
[04:51] <sethk> zhanx, there is little chance if data has since been written to the file system.
[04:51] <gilda> u can tinker it ghost
[04:51] <nickrud> zelrikriando: in 40, you mean
[04:51] <astro76> sethk: I never implied any of that but anyway..
[04:51] <zelrikriando> nickrud: yeah
[04:51] <ghost> gilda yeah I know i was just kinda kidding
[04:51] <nickrud> zelrikriando: see you then
[04:51] <Darksiteevil> buenas
[04:51] <sethk> zhanx, with video it doesn't do much good to get just pieces of it back.
[04:51] <zhanx> sethk, nope i stop as soon as i lost it i know better than to use it
[04:51] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[04:51] <BioCore> Hi guys, I am a current mac user and wanted to experience or try out a Linux distro. People have told me that Ubuntu is very popular among new Linux users.
[04:51] <ghost> what is the name of the terminal for x
[04:51] <sethk> astro76, maybe I got the nick wrong, sorry.
[04:51] <zhanx> crap
[04:51] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy [-Delta-]
[04:51] <gilda> o definately by default its fugly ghost
[04:51] <kupesoft> BioCore: it is,
[04:51] <BioCore> so was wondering anyone could tell me which version to download
[04:51] <[-Delta-]> Thankies
[04:51] <zoogy> !
[04:51] <BioCore> can I install the 64bit
[04:52] <benanzo> Basically I want: Password unlocks the key -> Key connect to nonpriv user account -> su username (enter strong password) to change to my regular user with sudo ability
[04:52] <BioCore> or do I need the i86
[04:52] <ghost> Terminal is the name of the terminal in xfce?
[04:52] <zhanx> sethk, well i guess i reencode and edit it again thanks
[04:52] <kupesoft> BioCore: What type of mac do you have?
[04:52] <astro76> BioCore: you should stick with 32bit
[04:52] <BioCore> MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
[04:52] <astro76> oh a mac
[04:52] <sethk> zhanx, ok, then there is a chance.  If it's possible you should boot a live cd and do an image backup (with dd) of the partition, of course _without_ mounting it.
[04:52] <gilda> BioCore, stick with 32 bit
[04:52] <benanzo> I work with technical people and I'm just a little worried they might try to mess with me
[04:52] <BioCore> 32 bit
[04:52] <kupesoft> BioCore: The 32-bit will be fine, you'll be able to better use some proprietary software (like Adobe Flash)
[04:52] <BioCore> ok thanks a lot
[04:52] <BioCore> I see
[04:52] <voltheir> hi - i am having trouble changing my default sound card to card 1 (as opposed to card 0) in alsa...when i go to sound prefs and change all the playbacks to 'adc' and hit test they work fine...but the system sounds just dont play and mplayer, etc doesn't play sound...please help!
[04:52] <BioCore> k thanks
[04:52] <BioCore> and also
[04:52] <sethk> benanzo, just don't put the key on the machine, and you don't have anything to worry about.
[04:52] <creeed> hello, how can I download recursively all contents of an URL, I tried with wget with different options like -R -lx .. I get just the index.html file but not the the contents, can someoneone give me advice please?
[04:52] <kupesoft> BioCore: unless you have lots of RAM (>3.5gb), then you'll need the 64bit version to use it all,
[04:53] <BioCore> do the hardwares install properley?
[04:53] <astro76> benanzo: seems like a sound practice to me
[04:53] <zhanx> sethk, no can do my removeable is large than my hd
[04:53] <BioCore> properly?*
[04:53] <[-Delta-]> Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable
[04:53] <[-Delta-]>        Depends: ttf-dejavu but it is not installable
[04:53] <[-Delta-]> E: Broken packages
[04:53] <[-Delta-]> Help.
[04:53] <kupesoft> BioCore: It should detect your hardware and work properly
[04:53] <protoloco> i would like to log mysql-bin.00* for 20/30 minutos and then read it by another mysql server... (like benchmarking) how can i do that ?
[04:53] <gilda> BioCore, also as a newbie then you dont have to mess around with the 32 compatibility layers for some stuff if u choose 32 bit vs 64 bit
[04:53] <BioCore> kupesoft, do you mean I need to mor ethna 3.5gb to use 64bit?
[04:53] <rainwalker> [-Delta-]: !paste
[04:53] <sethk> zhanx, sounds like re-editing might be less work than recovering, then.
[04:53] <BioCore> moe than*
[04:53] <benanzo> sethk: how can I connect to my home then?  I don't want to send my password in the clear when authenticating
[04:53] <rainwalker> !paste
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <kupesoft> BioCore: If not, come back here and we'll help you out,
[04:53] <kupesoft> BioCore: (:
[04:53] <ghost> dag i might throw this on my fast notebook'
[04:53] <BioCore> k thnxs
[04:53] <ghost> if it does everything the gnome does
[04:53] <sethk> benanzo, an ssh client does _not_ send the password in the clear
[04:54] <astro76> benanzo: the password is not sent in the clear
[04:54] <ghost> (until kde4.1 is out)
[04:54] <kupesoft> BioCore: No, I'm saying that 32bit only supports about 3.5GB of RAM, if you have more, you need a 64bit OS,
[04:54] <astro76> benanzo: even with out key auth
[04:54]  * voltheir looking for help changing default sound card... it worked before i did the system upgrades
[04:54] <sethk> benanzo, telnet does, but you aren't using telnet.  that's why you use ssh in the first place.
[04:54] <[-Delta-]> Tbh, i'm barely see half of this convo due to the messed up resolution and lack of color
[04:54] <[-Delta-]> *+ color blind
[04:54] <jw144000> sethk: I'm in the Live CD right now (I had to click on wubi-cdboot.exe or whatever it's called to get here, then select "Ubuntu-Linux" at startup). From what I see, the only options I have to install Linux are: "Guided -use entire disk" and "Manual", and like I said, I want to dualboot, I don't want to loose Windows XP
[04:54] <gigamonkey> Okay, this is killing me. Is my problem that apt is more designed for installing things than uninstalling them? Or am I missing something. Now I'm trying to get rid of OpenOffice and there are dozens of packages (it seems) that I need to individually select for removal.
[04:54] <sethk> jw144000, ok, then you use manual.
[04:54] <tritium> gigamonkey: it uninstalls things as easily as it installs them
[04:55] <zhanx> ne1 use the new razer sound card? waiting for it in the mail.
[04:55] <sethk> jw144000, I think there's a third option, something like "use unused space"
[04:55] <gilda> gigamonkey, are you using apt-get remove --purge ?
[04:55] <creeed> hello, how can I download recursively all contents of an URL, I tried with wget with different options like -R -lx .. I get just the index.html file but not the the contents, can someoneone give me advice please?
[04:55] <jw144000> sethk: I clicked on manual, and now I don't know what to do
[04:55] <gigamonkey> gilda: I'm in Synaptic.
[04:55] <kupesoft> gigamonkey: apt-get remove openoffice.org\*
[04:55] <sethk> jw144000, first question, do you have empty space?  Or do you need to shrink an existing partition?
[04:55] <benanzo> But in sshd_config it says: "# Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords" for PasswordAuthentication
[04:56] <ghost> hey I am removing the list of gnomeapps,
[04:56] <ghost> nevermind it started moving
[04:56] <jw144000> sethk: I don't have any partitions.
[04:56] <astro76> creeed: wget is good, the site might be blocking it however
[04:56] <jw144000> I mean, I have never made any partitions
[04:56] <sethk> benanzo, tunneled is not unencrpyted
[04:56] <sethk> jw144000, if you boot windows, you have at least one partition
[04:56] <benanzo> I guess I misunderstood that
[04:56] <ghost> Does xubuntu have a graphical login manager?
[04:56] <Flannel> ghost: xubuntu uses gdm
[04:56] <kupesoft> ghost: Yes, it uses GDM
[04:56] <ghost> ... i just uninstalled it
[04:56] <kenalex> has anyone ever experienced video flickering in ubuntu ?
[04:56] <ghost> i can just sudoaptget gdm
[04:57] <kupesoft> kenalex: Yes, I have. What's your X driver?
[04:57] <ghost> and it will autoconfigure itself?
[04:57] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:57] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:57] <gilda> damn splits
[04:57] <jw144000> sethk: OK. I apologize, I'm new to this stuff. From the looks of it, I have three partitions.
[04:57] <kupesoft> kenalex: Do you know what your video driver is?
[04:57] <Dessan> Woo net splits
[04:57] <Dessan> yay
[04:57] <sethk> jw144000, no need to apologize.
[04:57] <gilda> always a rollercoaster Dessan
[04:58] <Dessan> Indeed
[04:58] <kenalex> kupesoft:i am using the ati fglrx driver
[04:58] <sethk> jw144000, It's likely that all the disk space is used up, and you'll have to shrink one of those partitions.
[04:58] <ganesh> hi how the live cum install cd works with ubiquity
[04:58] <Dessan> I remeber my days as an Oper trying to fix the servers.
[04:58] <ghost> Can some one recomend a site for xfce looks configs? I would like to look at some ideas and what not
[04:58] <Flannel> ganesh: what?
[04:58] <gilda> xfce-look.org i think it is ghost
[04:59] <ganesh> please give the docs for live cum install cd
[04:59] <ghost> k just like kde-looks.
[04:59] <ghost> cool
[04:59] <creeed> astro76, can you test it by you please, here is the URL: http://opulus.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/opulus/trunk/
[04:59] <astro76> !language | ganesh
[04:59] <ubotu> ganesh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:59] <Dessan> Woo
[04:59] <gilda> boom
[04:59] <Dessan> another
[04:59] <kenalex> kupesoft:are you there ?
[04:59]  * gilda holds her hands up in the air and squeels wheeeeeeee 
[04:59] <Dingbat> :)
[04:59] <Dessan> Hey folks, if the people you were talking to don't answer its because of the netsplit
[04:59] <Flannel> ganesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:00] <Dessan> please hold questions for about 5 min
[05:00] <astro76> creeed: hmmm?
[05:00] <gilda> !netsplit
[05:00] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:00] <ganesh> Flannel, i am trying to make the cd with ubiquity , but i am getting error
[05:00] <gilda> nice we got some back now
[05:01] <Flannel> ganesh: there are instructions on that page, the first section.  Is there anything specific youre having trouble with?
[05:01] <obiwannekody> #archlinux got cut down by about half also
[05:02] <obiwannekody> and it returns
[05:02] <jw144000> sethk: How do I shrink the partitions? And if I free up some hard disk space, would it be likely that I will have the option to resize the partition?
[05:02] <ganesh> Flannel, which page
[05:02] <Flannel> ganesh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:02] <RaskahRat> hiya
[05:02] <gilda> hey
[05:02] <panfist> how can i get ubuntu running as an xdmcp server for clients on a trusted network
[05:03] <sethk> jw144000, I don't believe the installer will do it for you.  You probably need to boot the live cd and use gparted from it (unless you have something like partition magic available)
[05:03] <ganesh> Flannel, my trouble is "i am not able to make a partition using ubiquity"
[05:03] <destructar> hi all, I have been trying to install ubuntu (first time) since last night. running into an ata issue that I'm nearly positive is coming from my blu-ray drive which I'm trying to install from (via ubuntu burned dvd)... can't find any info via google (all info points to bad hdd but i'm positive that's not the issue)
[05:03] <jw144000> How do I access gparted?
[05:04] <ganesh> Flannel, "it means after creating the partition , it is not able to detect the created partition "
[05:04] <sethk> jw144000, I've done it from a terminal window, but it's probably on a menu somewhere
[05:04] <destructar> also, I installed windows 2000 just to see if it would "work", and it did... but that's not a permanent solution
[05:04] <Flannel> ganesh: try creating the partition in gparted, before using ubiquity
[05:05] <ganesh> Flannel, but it is not a good way of creating gparted & then going with ubiquity
[05:05] <RaskahRat> I have my /home mounted on a different partition and i want to use it for something else. I have logged in as root and tried cp -p -r /home/possum to another location, removed the partition from /rtc/fstab and used same cp -p -r to copy my home dir back into a /home on root partiton. Then when i go to login it has a hissy fit bout permissions. How can i completely preserve permissions? Is there an easier way to do this?
[05:05] <ganesh> Flannel, but it is not a good way of creating partition thro gparted & then going with ubiquity
[05:05] <astro76> RaskahRat: cp -a
[05:05] <badkitty> I use the liveCD to create the partition
[05:05] <jw144000> Is at least 86GB of free space enough for Ubuntu?
[05:06] <Flannel> ganesh: When something isnt working, youve gotta try and find a way that works
[05:06] <badkitty> jw144000: Yeah thats plenty
[05:06] <RaskahRat> astro76, ok thanks heaps =D
[05:06] <jw144000> badkitty: Can you help me with manually installing Ubuntu?
[05:06] <sethk> RaskahRat, cp -av
[05:06] <badkitty> jw144000: PM me
[05:06] <ganesh> Flannel, i uploaded the error in ubuntu forums also
[05:06] <ghost> hey
[05:06] <sethk> RaskahRat, the v just makes it noisier, the -a is what makes it do what you want
[05:07] <creeed> astro76, I just got it right now thanks for your idea
[05:07] <ghost> I just installed Xubuntu, how do I set xubuntu to use zsh
[05:07] <sethk> RaskahRat, there's a way to do it with tar, but it's more complicated
[05:07] <ghost> like i had my gnome set up too
[05:07] <RaskahRat> sethk, oh ok i dont understand the archive option lol, without context and such its hard to understand the man pages fully
[05:08] <ghost> I just installed Xubuntu, how do I set xubuntu to use zsh
[05:08] <sethk> RaskahRat, it will copy the files and preserve the permissions, which is what you need.
[05:08] <gilda> destructar, what is the issue with ur blueray drive
[05:08] <RaskahRat> thanks sethk and astro76 =D
[05:08] <rubeez> i am running gutsy x64 on a GA-P35-DS3L board and E2140 CPU but was not able to get cpufreq working...any suggestion on how to troubleshoot is greatly appreciated
[05:09] <destructar> not sure... i'm getting the error: ata3 irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed
[05:09] <Kalamansi> how to setup file server? so that workstations pc2 xp and pc3 win98 can save and download their files to the pc1 server ubuntu.. thanks
[05:09] <gilda> and the disk loads no further ?
[05:09] <marpstar> can somebody recommend me a gtk media player that supports last.fm and album art but isn't rhythmbox, listen, banshee, exaile, or bmpx?
[05:09] <creeed> how can I install Qt on gutsy?
[05:09] <josspyker> marpstar: vlc
[05:10] <marpstar> i'm looking for something more library oriented
[05:10] <destructar> everything i saw pertaining to this error pointed to a bad hard drive, but when i switch slots with my blu ray the ata changes... so right now it's ata1 in the message, but when I move blu ray to stata3 the messages changes
[05:10] <destructar> correct
[05:10] <ghost> does anyone know of a good xubuntu resource kind of like ubuntuguide
[05:10] <gilda> marpstar, did u try amarok at all ?
[05:10] <marpstar> gilda, yes I did, I've had problems with it crashing and want to stick with something gnome-based
[05:11] <Flannel> creeed: libqt (with some wart on the end), I believe.  The online DB is down at the moment
[05:11] <gilda> destructar, does the cd load and get past that point or stall ?
[05:11] <marpstar> I liked exaile, but there is a bug in the way it refreshes the library
[05:11] <marpstar> listen doesn't work well with larger libraries
[05:12] <marpstar> banshee is OK but has a bug where it's stops scrobbling tracks
[05:12] <creeed> great
[05:12] <marpstar> i really like BMPx, but it's album art support is terrible
[05:12] <mortal_> its
[05:12] <firestormx37> marpstar have you tried out songbird, its still in the development stages but it works pretty well
[05:13] <marpstar> yeah, firestormx37, I have... it's quite buggy yet
[05:13] <destructar> gilda, so to be a little more clear: i insert the disc, get the ubuntu install screen, choose "start or  install ubuntu", get a "loading linux kernel" window, screen changes to ubuntu progress slider image, screen changes to black with white text that says "ata3 irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed" among other things like "action 0x2 frozen"
[05:13] <marpstar> I realize I'm asking for a lot, since I've tried almost every other player
[05:13] <jw144000> Can anyone help me with manually installing Ubuntu?
[05:13] <jw144000> I'm in a live CD session now
[05:13] <gilda> destructar - i want u to try loading the ubuntu disk - pressing f6 - at the end of the lines that appear that u can edit try adding  all_generic_ide
[05:14] <whyameye> is it possible to run a 32 bit app on 64 bit Gutsy?
[05:14] <destructar> ok rebooting now
[05:14] <badkitty> jw144000: I will but y ou gotta pm me
[05:14] <jw144000> badkitty, I just did
[05:14] <badkitty> jw144000: Nope ... are you identified??
[05:14] <creeed> Flannel, from witch source you got it please?
[05:15] <jw144000> badkitty: I don't understand
[05:15] <destructar> ok i have the graphical slider...
[05:15] <Flannel> creeed: it'll be in main
[05:15] <destructar> error text again... crap
[05:15] <gilda> same error or different ?
[05:16] <badkitty> jw144000: I just PMed you
[05:16] <jw144000> I got your PM
[05:16] <badkitty> ok msg me in there
[05:16] <jw144000> I just did
[05:16] <destructar> same, so again to be a bit more clear, the second message is: "ata3: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4080000 action 0x2 frozen"
[05:17] <jw144000> badkitty: You're unable to receive my PM's?
[05:17] <badkitty> jw144000: Do you have a identified IRC account on freenode?
[05:17] <jw144000> badkitty: No
[05:17] <badkitty> ie have you registerred? Ok you have to do that in order to PM
[05:18] <gilda> hmmm destructar not sure at this point - sounds like the ata is not fully supporting ur drive on ubuntu did you check the hardware compatibility ?
[05:19] <destructar> yes but didn't find blu ray, so i'm guessing it's not supported, which is pretty disappointing as it's the only drive i have on hand tonight
[05:19] <gilda> darn
[05:20] <destructar> is there a way to install from a flash drive?
[05:20] <creeed> does anyone know a good ubuntu site, where I download packages? I need libqt3!
[05:20] <destructar> usb flash drive... i have one around here somewhere
[05:20] <gilda> destructar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:21] <jw144000> badkitty: I'll BRB, need to reboot
[05:22] <astro76> !info libqt3-mt | creeed
[05:22] <ubotu> creeed: libqt3-mt (source: qt-x11-free): Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu11.1 (gutsy), package size 3222 kB, installed size 8920 kB
[05:22] <badkitty> jw144000: k
[05:22] <gilda> destructar, it is an older how to but do not see why it can not be applicable now
[05:22] <Flannel> !synaptic | creeed
[05:22] <ubotu> creeed: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:22] <Flannel> creeed: You don't download packages manually.  Use the repositories
[05:25] <RaskahRat> Ok i just copied my home directory using cp -a so i coulsd use my disk for something else used same cp command to move it back to a /home on the root partition and when i login i get a box complaining about a $HOME/.dmrc being ignored and that other users should not be able to access my home dir. What am i doing wrong? how do i copy my home dir so that it comes back and is read exactly trhe same
[05:26] <astro76> RaskahRat: what are your permissions on ~/.dmrc now?
[05:26] <pawan> hi
[05:26] <pawan> how to install real player
[05:26] <astro76> !real | pawan
[05:26] <ubotu> pawan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <jetscreamer> helix-player is a realplayer clone
[05:27] <jetscreamer> or so
[05:27] <pawan> it is not able to play rm files
[05:27] <pawan> says get realplaye
[05:28] <pawan> how to install bin file
[05:28] <jetscreamer> enable the extra sources
[05:28] <jetscreamer> don't do the bin unless you have no choice
[05:28] <astro76> pawan: chmod +x file.bin && sudo ./file.bin
[05:28] <jetscreamer> pawan: but you would chmod +x it and ./blah.bin
[05:28] <creeed> I need Qt 4.3.1 and exactly dev-tools like qmake, any idea?
[05:28] <jetscreamer> what he said
[05:29] <astro76> creeed: like Flannel said, synaptic
[05:29] <RaskahRat> astro76, -rwxrwx---
[05:29] <creeed> thx
[05:29] <astro76> RaskahRat: chmod 600 ~/.dmrc
[05:30] <jw144000> badkitty: Could you PM me the link you gave me again?
[05:30] <astro76> RaskahRat: you didn't copy these files to a ntfs or fat partition did you?
[05:30] <dimedo> hey there, is there a way to force an application to use a given alsa device, even if that program has no options for this?
[05:30] <RaskahRat> lol yes... yes i did.
[05:30] <astro76> RaskahRat: they don't support unix permissions
[05:30] <badkitty> jw144000: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[05:30] <RaskahRat> astro76, oh IC
[05:30] <astro76> RaskahRat: you'll need to tar everything
[05:31] <RaskahRat> astro76, i might just do the same thing but stash it in /opt for a minute instead lol
[05:31] <RaskahRat> astro76, thanks again mate ^_~
[05:33] <sss> when I do a apt-get update
[05:33] <sss> I get this error Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
[05:33] <sss>   502 Proxy Error ( The ISA Server denied the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL).  )
[05:33] <ghost> hey I am in xubuntu now but i seem to have no file manager, or my file manager won't start
[05:33] <badkitty> sss: When ever you want
[05:33] <ghost> what is the name of the xfce file manager so i can see a terminal output
[05:34] <astro76> !info thunar
[05:34] <ubotu> thunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-6ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 208 kB, installed size 640 kB
[05:35] <pawan> how to install audio/x-pn-realaudio
[05:35] <sss> Error on apt-get update => http://pastie.caboo.se/147639
[05:35] <sss> can someone help?
[05:36] <MoLE_> sss, you're behind a microsoft cache (ISA server).  Need a special tool to get around these (if on active directory authentication)
[05:36] <zelrikriando> hmm badkitty, this name reminds me something
[05:37] <badkitty> zelrikriando: Hmm.. southpark??
[05:37] <zelrikriando> badkitty: no a msn contact
[05:37] <badkitty> zelrikriando: hmm I dont think I used it on MSN
[05:38] <tmba> hi, I managed to wipe out my /boot partition and now am trying to reinstall grub and linux image on it. So far I've booted a livecd and chrooted into the main linux partition, but when I try to apt-get install linux I get lots of dependency problems. Are there any better ways of doing it, or how to continue when apt-get does not want to install grub and the linux images in /boot?
[05:38] <zelrikriando> badkitty: that s ok...the badkitty I am talking about blocked me anyways
[05:38] <zelrikriando> :D
[05:38] <badkitty> zelrikriando: LOl k I wont block you ;-)
[05:39] <MoLE_> sss, the package is NTLMaps - make sure you read the documentation first, though
[05:39] <sss> MoLE_: Thanks for the hint
[05:39] <MoLE_> sss, of course the cache may simply be offline.
[05:40] <MoLE_> sss, it does run on windows, of course.
[05:40] <zelrikriando> badkitty: where are you from
[05:40] <jmlane> The contents of my /home folder is empty. Anyway to recover/rebuild this?
[05:40] <pawan> how to install audio/x-pn-realaudio
[05:40] <tmba> jmlane: might be its just not mounted
[05:41] <destructar> for anyone who might care: i suspected problems with a pioneer blu ray drive... was just able to get busybox installed by first booting to windows 2000. when booting in to linux got ata problems coming from blu ray, just unplugged blu ray and booted to busybox with no issues
[05:41] <badkitty> zelrikriando: USA
[05:41] <tmba> jmlane: that is.. if you have home on different partition
[05:41] <destructar> of course i have no clue where to go from here to get gui installed
[05:41] <astro76> jmlane: remove and readd the user
[05:41] <zelrikriando> badkitty: ok :) me Canada
[05:41] <ghost> oddly enough when I installed xubuntu-desktop, it did not install the filemanager with it
[05:41] <ghost> whats up with that!
[05:41] <astro76> jmlane: system > admin > users and groups, or command line methods
[05:42] <pawan> how to install real playe
[05:42] <jmlane> tmba: Not sure, I didn't think so.
[05:42] <astro76> jmlane: oh you mean /home/ not your ~/
[05:43] <ghost> If i delete all the .hidden folders in my /home will that hurt the programs or just reset there settings
[05:43] <jmlane> astro76: Right.
[05:44] <tmba> jmlane: in that case, how did all the contents in it disappear in the first place?
[05:44] <jmlane> tmba:  Good question.
[05:44] <zelrikriando> hmm
[05:44]  * zelrikriando is waiting for somebody
[05:44] <tmba> jmlane:   :)
[05:45] <tmba> jmlane: are you able to log in to gnome with your user at all?
[05:45] <jmlane> tmba: Not sure, I am sshed in remotely.
[05:45] <sethk> jmlane, ssh'd in is logged in
[05:46] <sethk> jmlane, presuming you didn't delete the files after you logged in, of course
[05:46] <jmlane> I can log in through ssh, but it says /home/$user is missing
[05:46] <heatmzzr_> how do i add repositories?
[05:47] <pawan> how to start real player
[05:47] <jmlane> Yeah, it appears that I toasted my /home/ directory's content somehow....
[05:47] <sethk> jmlane, I would do this.  Create a new user, then create the missing home directory, and copy everything from the new user's home to the recreated home
[05:47] <jmlane> sethk: Sounds like a good idea.
[05:47] <sethk> jmlane, you'll need to use sudo to do the copy, then   sudo chown -R name:name /home/name
[05:48] <tmba> jmlane: I think sethk's idea is a good one too. Just make sure /home is not on different partition
[05:48] <jmlane> Will using adduser generate the .profile, .bashrc, etc. files?
[05:48] <sethk> tmba, that's a good point
[05:48] <tmba> jmlane: if it is, it might be just a mount that is missing
[05:48] <sethk> jmlane, yes
[05:48] <skyhook> hey, when I "completly remove" app using synaptic, it should remove all the config files right?
[05:48] <norv> jmlane: yes, it'll base it off of what's in /etc/skel
[05:50] <bod_> Hi guys, is it possible, from the terminal to "echo" the title of the song being played in amarok?
[05:50] <norv> skyhook: it might, I doubt it, but it won't remove home directory ones
[05:50] <jmlane> tmba: Nope, fdisk -l shows one partition on the OS hdd
[05:50] <Celes> Does anyone here play open arena? I need help with it!
[05:50] <tmba> jmlane: one partition?  what about swap?
[05:50] <spdf> bod_: I imagine its possible if amarok has a dbus interface
[05:50] <bod_> 1 sec
[05:51] <jmlane> Swap is shown in /etc/fstab, but not in fdisk -l
[05:51] <skyhook> norv: ah I see thanks
[05:52] <tmba> well, you're out of my league then. Only you would know how stuff was installed. Perhaps lvm or something?
[05:52] <bod_> spdf, sorry, got a reply from someone in #amarok, he gave me a command to try but it just printed a blank line, il let you know if he gives me a decent answer,.,.;)
[05:52] <astro76> jmlane: can you pastebin your fstab, mount output, and fdisk -l output
[05:52] <jmlane> astro76: Yes. What exactly is the mount output you are looking for?
[05:53] <jmlane> Just mount?
[05:53] <astro76> jmlane: yes
[05:54] <J_Humphrey> how can I change the mount point on an extra partition? I just set up a new partition so that I could have /home/ in a seperate partition, but its named /media/disk, and it would be nice if it followed the normal /dev/sda# format
[05:54] <astro76> J_Humphrey: if you want it to be a separate home, it will need to be mounted to /home, but there's a process to moving your existing home over
[05:55] <bod_> spdf, heres the command : dcop amarok player title
[05:55] <nemilar> J_Humphrey: you need to edit your fstab
[05:55] <tmba> J_Humphrey: also, when its in /media, its already mountec
[05:55] <astro76> J_Humphrey: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[05:55] <spdf> bod_: Try, dcop amarok player encodedURL
[05:56] <bod_> spdf, ok,.,.1 sec
[05:56] <jmlane> astro76: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54810/
[05:56] <Ein2015> ooo fstab peoples
[05:56] <tmba> so, folks, I've managed to wipe out my /boot partition. What to do to re-install grub on it + linux images?  chroot?
[05:56] <Ein2015> i'm trying to get my server to automatically mount all my harddrives for everybody to use on startup.
[05:57] <zelrikriando> ahhhh he lied to me
[05:57] <jmlane> Actually, what J_Humphrey is wanting to do is exactly what I was in the process of attempting, except I only just formated and partition the new harddrive.
[05:57] <dan_l> I did it!!!
[05:58] <dan_l> install with no head ache.  I even did NDIS wrapper by myself
[05:58] <nemilar> astro76: those directions are silly and over-complicated ;)
[05:58] <dan_l> I rulez teh webz
[05:58] <Ein2015> LOL
[05:58] <Ein2015> :)
[05:58] <astro76> jmlane: this would have been usefull info
[05:58] <norv> kdcop is quite nice, is there a GTK equivalent?
[05:58] <bod_> spdf, that gives me the file path to my track, and some weird % everywhere
[05:58] <astro76> nemilar: really I haven't read it :O
[05:59] <dan_l> Ok, so I have a dumb question:  In th process of confiruging ndiswrapper, I accidentally screwed up the blacklist.  How do I manually edit the blacklist?
[05:59] <J_Humphrey> how do I find out what the current mount point/name is for current partitions?
[05:59] <zelrikriando> anyone knows nickrud?
[05:59] <norv> J_Humphrey: df
[05:59] <nemilar> astro76: it would be some much easier, after you create the new partition, to just go back into ubuntu, you'll have all the partitions mounted, just cp the stuff from /home to /media/newdisk, umount /media/newdisk, rm /home/* , edit your fstab, remount
[05:59] <Ein2015> brb, gotta smoke... and then i'll want somebody to help me with my mounting problems, if possible.  :)
[05:59] <nemilar> J_Humphrey: 'mount'
[05:59] <spdf> bod_: Yeh, its just encoded characters
[05:59] <spdf> bod_: So, that's working at least
[05:59] <tmba> J_Humphrey: use the 'mount' command
[06:00] <norv> J_Humphrey: all except swap partitions, for those use cat /proc/swaps
[06:00] <nemilar> norv: cat /proc/mounts
[06:00] <astro76> nemilar: agreed... just read it, it's pretty bad ;)
[06:01] <nemilar> norv: actually you're right, I never realized mounts doesn't show the swap partitions
[06:01] <nemilar> norv: my bad
[06:01] <nickrud> zelrikriando:
[06:01] <zelrikriando> hey
[06:01] <zelrikriando> wb nickrud
[06:01] <jmlane> astro76: Actually, from the looks of it, /dev/hdc2 might be /home.
[06:01] <bod_> spdf, yer, i now have the commands to find, the track plplaying, the file path, the artist, and the track & artist in the same command
[06:01] <alexh> hi everyone
[06:02] <alexh> I need help
[06:02] <alexh> with ubuntu java chat room not comes blank
[06:02] <alexh> using AMD64
[06:02] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ready? It will take a while. What we will be doing is identifying stuff that was installed from medibuntu, replacing ubuntu packages.
[06:02] <jmlane> What is the easiest way to check what the contents of a partition are?
[06:02] <cvd> a boot-cd to repair mbr?
[06:02] <spdf> bod_: check out http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/DCOP_Functions
[06:02] <zelrikriando> nickrud: get started I want to sleep after :)
[06:03] <nemilar> !es | alexh
[06:03] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok :)  first, reenable the medibuntu repos, so it's easy to identify them
[06:03] <ubotu> alexh: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:03] <spdf> bod_: You'd just have to do something like, dcop amarok player 'artist()', I believe
[06:03] <bod_> spdf, ty,. why have none of these dcop amarok functions been printed anywhere,. there not in --help, --help-all, man, info ,.
[06:03] <rohit> Hi
[06:03] <nemilar> jmlane: you mean, its files?
[06:04] <norv> bod_: also, just running dcop amarok player will print out a list of functions you can call
[06:04] <bod_> spdf, take out the  () and the command woeks
[06:04] <astro76> jmlane: no hdc2 is an extended partition (not a data partition but a container for logicals)
[06:04] <nemilar> jmlane: just running 'mount' will tell you what directory it is mounted to
[06:04] <astro76> jmlane: probably was hdc1
[06:04] <bod_> norv,. ty
[06:04] <alexh> ubuto how i switch to the spanish room
[06:04] <jmlane> nemilar: Yeah, files. Well, I don't know if you can call them files when it isn't a regular FS...
[06:04] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[06:04] <norv> btw, is DCOP the same /in principle/ as AppleScript's calling?
[06:04] <nemilar> jmlane: what's the fstype?
[06:05] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok, open synaptic, and press the origins button. You should see medibuntu listed in the top left pane
[06:05] <astro76> alexh: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:05] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am there already :)
[06:05] <bod_> norv, thats quite a bit of reading,. ty
[06:05] <Prez00> in gutsy I can no longer open picture urls directly from the gimp, I get an error
[06:05] <nickrud> zelrikriando: cool. In the right, what packages do you have installed?
[06:05] <jmlane> nemilar: astro76 just said it was extended, for logicals... Not sure what logicals are, but I assume it is some special OS stuff.
[06:05] <spdf> bod_: Check out that wiki link, it has some explanations as well
[06:05] <Prez00> I used to be able to in previous release
[06:05] <boyhppy> how do you get rid of the grub bootloader?
[06:05] <bod_> spdf, wil do cheers,. gonna go grab some breakfast,.brb
[06:05] <zelrikriando> nickrud: skype skype-common (for non free)
[06:06] <nemilar> astro76: ? (jmlane) did you get his problem fixed?
[06:06] <mkquist> boyhppy: why would u do that?
[06:06] <zelrikriando> nickrud: nothing on free
[06:06] <nickrud> zelrikriando: thats all? If so, you waited up for nothing
[06:06] <norv> jmlane: nemilar: logical partitions can be used for anything primary partitions can, except booting, pretty much
[06:06] <astro76> nemilar: no he's in some state in the process of moving /home and I'm not sure what he's done
[06:06] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I have other stuff wait
[06:06] <jmlane> nemilar: My problem is the missing contents of /home, but it appears I deleted them when deleting the crap off /media/store.
[06:07] <nemilar> astro76: ahh
[06:07] <nemilar> jmlane: so did you delete all copies of your home directory contents?
[06:07] <zelrikriando> nickrud: libavcodec1d libavformat1d libavutil1d libpostproc1d (on main)
[06:07] <jisatsu> whenever I reboot, it doesn't pick up my nameservers properly and I have to edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand. any idea how to fix that?
[06:08] <nemilar> jmlane: btw, for your looking at files, question, Apps - Accessories - Disk Usage Anylizer is a great tool for mounted partitions
[06:08] <boyhppy> since i installed ubuntu on an external hard drive and if I don't have the external hard drive isn't plugged into the pc, grub booter won't work and then i can't boot from my XP operating system (my other operating system)
[06:08] <jmlane> nemilar:  Well, unless there is an automatic backup kept somewhere else, yes.
[06:08] <nemilar> jmlane: ouch.  I'm sorry to hear that
[06:08] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok that s it...
[06:08] <mkquist> boyhppy: where did u install grub?
[06:08] <norv> boyhppy: if you have 2 disks you don't technically need a boot loader
[06:08] <jmlane> nemilar: Not using GUI... Trying to teach myself barebones Linux slowly.
[06:08] <mkquist> norv: well there is that... =p
[06:08] <boyhppy> when you install ubuntu, it installs GRUB on your bios
[06:09] <nemilar> jmlane: did you loose anything important?
[06:09] <mkquist> boyhppy: no it installs it on ur hard drive
[06:09] <nemilar> lose
[06:09] <jmlane> Not really, new install, but I had a few accounts.
[06:09] <sfears> can anyone help me figure out why .iso's i save to my desktop give me an error (inavlid disk image) when i try to burn them with k3b.
[06:09] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ?
[06:09] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok, select livavcodec1d , then on the menu bar package => force version
[06:10] <nickrud> zelrikriando: what options do you see
[06:10] <norv> boyhppy: fixmbr on windows XP's hard disk (in windows XP). then install grub on the external. set the boot order to boot first from external, then from an internal HD
[06:10] <boyhppy> but when i take my external hard drive out, it shows the grub and it says error so i can't boot for my other OS
[06:10] <nemilar> jmlane: oh, okay... not so bad then.  So where are you stuck now?
[06:10] <astro76> boyhppy: right because grub is in the MBR of your internal hard drive, but the config file is in /boot on the external drive
[06:11] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I see 2 options
[06:11] <zelrikriando> nickrud: one is regular ubuntu the other is medibuntu
[06:11] <jmlane> nemilar: Not really stuck, just generated a template user so to get a /home/$user dir.
[06:11] <nickrud> zelrikriando: choose the ubuntu one, then repeat for each of the other packages
[06:11] <afpac> Hi, any ideas about how do I make the stock ubuntu desktop like this - http://www.thelinuxvault.net/images/6/6b/ModifiedUbuntuScreenshot.png
[06:11] <nemilar> jmlane: cool cool
[06:11] <jmlane> Is there a quick way to copy a source to multiple destinations?
[06:12] <zelrikriando> nickrud: for all of them?
[06:12] <mkquist> boyhppy: go with norvs advice
[06:12] <tds5016> Hello. can someone please help me get direct rendering working on this laptop?
[06:12] <norv> astro76: I had a problem that when I added a USB thumb drive, grub would just refuse to load with the same error at stage 1.5
[06:12] <boyhppy> ok
[06:12] <nickrud> zelrikriando: each of the ones that is visible when you choose medibuntu.org as the origin
[06:12] <spdf> afpac: Well, the bottom bar looks like Avant Window Navigator to me
[06:12] <tds5016> I have the proprietary Radeon drivers installed.
[06:12] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[06:12] <tds5016> but it's still outputting...
[06:12] <afpac> spdf: ok, a clue, thanks :)
[06:12] <tds5016> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[06:12] <tds5016>  
[06:12] <nickrud> zelrikriando: not skype, it doesn't matter.
[06:12] <dan_l> folks, how do I know if my update manager is working?
[06:12] <tds5016> under the glxinfo
[06:12] <ceriand> has anyone tried to get sound working on a dell m1330 running hardy?
[06:12] <pcrack> hi i want to build my own ubuntu based linux..can anybody lead me to a new good site
[06:13] <spdf> afpac: And they're using a dark gtk theme/engine and a custom icon theme as well
[06:13] <tds5016> can someone please help me out with that?
[06:13] <spdf> afpac: Check out gtk-look.org
[06:13] <dan_l> I seem to remember tons of updates that I needed to do with a fresh install
[06:13] <afpac> spdf: i see
[06:13] <norv> astro76: I realized it was detecting the thumb drive first and making it hard disk 0 0 or such. lilo seemed to fix this, though I never found out why
[06:13] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I cant on skype anyways
[06:13] <dan_l> That was the stupidist question anybody has ever asked.  I should quit.
[06:13] <dimedo> hey, where can i find the ALSA config files in ubuntu?
[06:13] <norv> pcrack: use Ubuntu first.
[06:13] <spdf> afpac: Er, sorry, gnome-look.org
[06:14] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am applying those
[06:14] <nickrud> zelrikriando: heh, true, no skype in ubuntu :)
[06:14] <astro76> norv: but his only happens when he removes the external, leaving only window
[06:14] <afpac> afpac: right, thanks
[06:14] <norv> astro76: yes, it's a different issue
[06:14] <spdf> afpac: There's an alright black gtk theme called Blue-Junior on there, that might be what they've used
[06:14] <zelrikriando> nickrud: done
[06:15] <nickrud> zelrikriando: now apply the changes
[06:15] <afpac> spdf: will keep in mind
[06:15] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I looked away, you were ahead of me
[06:15] <nickrud> zelrikriando: try vlc for kicks
[06:15] <leetcharmer> hihi all:)
[06:16] <zelrikriando> nickrud: for some reason I had to apply the changes twice
[06:16] <Imaginal> When something(window/video/game) moves quickly sideways, I see broken horizontal lines. This is not an issue in Vista. Hsync and Vrefresh are correct... WXGA. Any ideas?
[06:16] <leetcharmer> does anyone know how to copy from vi to evolution?
[06:16] <norv> astro76: it seems LILO uses uuid or something a little more picky about what drive maps to what number, but that's just my speculation
[06:16] <purple_girl_fs> hhhhii...
[06:16] <zelrikriando> nickrud: no change in the vlc
[06:16] <nickrud> leetcharmer: highlight the stuff in vi with the mouse , then press the middle button in evolution
[06:16] <astro76> norv: lilo installs completely to the MBR, not relying on a file in /boot, could be that
[06:17] <ghost> Hey guys I have abit of an emergancy
[06:17] <astro76> norv: or are you talking about your issue.. I'm sleepy and confused ;)
[06:17] <norv> astro76: hmm, I was told it still had a staging process because the MBR is too small for any real storage (splash image in LILO?) .. .btw, my issue
[06:17] <ceriand> has anyone tried to get sound working on a dell m1330 running hardy?
[06:17] <thekayhan> ghost: shoot
[06:17] <leetcharmer> nickrud: now, if I wanted to copy from vi  to another terminal program without using gdm, what would I do?
[06:18] <nickrud> zelrikriando: hum. in a terminal, type   apt-cache policy libavcodec1d
[06:18] <ghost> I followed the instructions to rid your system of gnome after i installed xubuntu
[06:18] <ganesh>  even making a partition through ubiquity , im not able to install on the created partition , why
[06:18] <ghost> well it seems lots of things where un installed that didn't need to be un installed
[06:18] <nickrud> leetcharmer: you mean in a console? install gpm , it works the same
[06:18] <zelrikriando> nickrud: it s writen...medibuntu
[06:18] <obiwannekody> ok, ghost
[06:18] <J_Humphrey> ok, I messed up my directory, this is the error message when I try to open up computer: "Could not launch menu item.  Failed to change to directory '/home/name' (no such file or directory"   How do I change my directory back to normal?
[06:18] <ghost> forinstance, now I can't get wifi
[06:18] <nickrud> zelrikriando: pastebin the output of that command
[06:18] <obiwannekody> ghost:  what exactly is the problem?
[06:19] <norv> ghost: if you aren't running low on disk, don't bother pulling out packages to things you don't need
[06:19] <nickrud> !pastebin | zelrikriando (just in case you don't know pastebin)
[06:19] <ubotu> zelrikriando (just in case you don't know pastebin): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:19] <ganesh> hi, even making a partition through ubiquity , im not able to install on the created partition , why
[06:19] <leetcharmer> nickrud: I'm on an XO laptop (from OLPC) -- and can't install gdm.
[06:19] <ghost> norv the original perpose of switching to xfce was for smaller system
[06:19] <MoLE_> ghost, I'd probably just run sudo aptitude reinstall xubuntu-desktop, which should pull in all the dependencies like network manager.
[06:19] <obiwannekody> ghost, how did you connect to wifi, what type of card do you have, and is it a secure wifi problem
[06:19] <thekayhan> ghost: did you install the xubuntu package
[06:19] <zelrikriando> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/m663bad6
[06:19] <leetcharmer> nickrud: I wanna paste stuff from vi to an e-mail in webmail opera :)
[06:19] <ghost> I did install xubuntu-desktop
[06:20] <MoLE_> ghost did you then remove packages afterwards?
[06:20] <ghost> its possile i remoeved things that are under the gnome package that xubuntu also uses
[06:20] <norv> ghost: oh, didn't catch that. IMHO, it's not that much smaller and even on 4GB of disk, 500MB of ram, Kubuntu still seems to work well
[06:20] <ghost> good idea
[06:20] <nickrud> leetcharmer: that technique will work.   highlight with the mouse, and press the middle button in the opera webmail text box
[06:20] <tds5016> I am using xgl... I really need help if anyone is willing... please!
[06:20] <ghost> oh yeah
[06:20] <ghost> whole lot of packages
[06:20] <MoLE_> ghost: I suspect you removed thinks like network-manager which controls network access
[06:20] <ghost> thakns for pointing me in the right direction
[06:21] <ghost> Yeah it was network manager and a lot of other things
[06:21] <MoLE_> ghost: sudo aptitude reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <ghost> (i figured fix that one first to fix the other stuff
[06:21] <norv> I thought xubuntu used network-manager
[06:21] <J_Humphrey> ok, I messed up my directory, this is the error message when I try to open up computer: "Could not launch menu item.  Failed to change to directory '/home/name' (no such file or directory)" How do I change it back to normal?
[06:21] <ghost> MoLE_, already on it :)
[06:21] <obiwannekody> ghost, xfce is slightly faster than the other DE's, although KDE 4 looks like it may be getting better
[06:21] <nickrud> zelrikriando: then somehow your force version didn't go through.  Try it again
[06:21] <ghost> obiwannekody I am waiting for 4.1
[06:21] <leetcharmer> nickrud: That takes me back and forth between websites, not paste :(
[06:21] <norv> obiwannekody: ghost: prelink also makes a difference for startup speeds
[06:21] <obiwannekody> ghost, me too
[06:22] <obiwannekody> ghost, what does 'ifconfig -a' give you? (is your wifi card listed?)
[06:22] <ghost> I need to research prelinking, I did it a while back and i did not find much benifit, but I will look into it again
[06:22] <nickrud> leetcharmer: middle button? opera must be overriding it then. Middle button paste is a real low level X function. I have no idea why the olpc works differently
[06:22] <ghost> obiwannekody, installing network manager will fix the problem, thanks :)
[06:23] <Hemebond> Evening all. Has it been busy in here today?
[06:24] <norv> ghost: shouldn't affect your DE choice, and it's not an amazing change.. but it helps on low-end hardware
[06:24] <leetcharmer> nickrud: :) found a way to do it.  Open the file via file:///home/olpc/file
[06:24] <Hemebond> ubotu: broken sound
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken sound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <leetcharmer> :)
[06:24] <J_Humphrey> ok, I messed up my directory, this is the error message when I try to open up computer: "Could not launch menu item.  Failed to change to directory '/home/name' (no such file or directory)" How do I change it back to normal?
[06:24] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I did it again...seemed to went through
[06:24] <zelrikriando> nickrud: but didnt fix my issue
[06:24] <Ein2015> does anybody here know how to configure finch?
[06:24] <nickrud> zelrikriando: the apt-cache policy says ubuntu is installed?
[06:24] <ganesh> hi, even making a partition through ubiquity , im not able to install on the created partition , why
[06:24] <zelrikriando> nickrud: yes
[06:25] <J_Humphrey> ganesh, what kind of partition did you make?
[06:25] <thekayhan> ganesh, you can't install on a mounted partition
[06:25] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok, to keep from using the medibuntu libraries again disable the medibuntu repos again
[06:25] <biotrox> can anyone help me..?
[06:25] <biotrox> i'm having troble checking my kernel features
[06:25] <ganesh> J_Humphrey, ext3 filesystem
[06:25] <J_Humphrey> ganesh, is it mounted?
[06:26] <jmlane> Is there any sort of documentation explaining what all the default ubuntu users/groups do?
[06:26] <norv> ghost: I believe, not certain, that the conserve memory option actually conserves more than before prelink. not sure, I wouldn't count on it
[06:26] <ganesh> thekayhan, yeah im not able to install on the mounted partition
[06:26] <J_Humphrey> ganesh, and it needs to be bigger than around 2.5GB
[06:26] <ganesh> J_Humphrey, yeah it is mounted & 5 Gb partition
[06:26] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[06:27] <J_Humphrey> ganesh, it can't be mounted if you want to install something to it
[06:27] <nickrud> zelrikriando: do the apt-cache policy on each of the libraries (libavcodec1d libavformat1d libavutil1d libpostproc1d) make sure they are all ubuntu
[06:27] <norv> jmlane: they're all system ones
[06:27] <ganesh> J_Humphrey, if already i make a partition through gparted it is working
[06:27] <thekayhan> ganesh: no he's saying that you need to unmount it first
[06:27] <ganesh> J_Humphrey, but if i make a partition thro ubiquity it is not so , why ?
[06:28] <jmlane> norv: All are required?
[06:28] <J_Humphrey> ganesh, i have no idea
[06:28] <norv> jmlane: you shouldn't touch any, that is
[06:28] <ghost> rebooting
[06:28] <zelrikriando> nickrud: they are all good
[06:29] <J_Humphrey> how can I get my directory back to / ?
[06:29] <norv> anyone at all know why bash takes quite a bit longer to start than sh, besides being more advanced?
[06:29] <thekayhan> J_Humphrey cd /
[06:29] <ganesh> thekayhan, no if i am installing on the partition which i created early , it is working fine but my prob is im not able install if i create a fresh partition thro ubiquity
[06:30] <J_Humphrey> thekayham, no, you dont understand, I cant access anything on my computer
[06:30] <nickrud> zelrikriando: ok, now you're using only ubuntu libs. Next thing, start vlc and go to settings->preferences->video->output modules, enable advanced options (lower right) which module are you using?
[06:30] <musikgoat> hi, any recommendations for troubleshooting an issue with listing a directory.  ran fsck on boot and the disk seems to be fine.  but when I ls a particular directory, this happens to be /var/www/  it takes about 30 seconds to a minute to list
[06:31] <norv> J_Humphrey: you can boot up into rescue mode or make init=/bin/sh
[06:31] <ganesh> thekayhan, if i am installing on the partition which i created early ,it is working fine but my prob is im not able to install if i create a fresh partition thro ubiquity ?
[06:31] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, how big is it?  large directories on large partions take sometimes take a while.  also, what is the file system?
[06:32] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I dont find it...
[06:32] <nickrud> zelrikriando: you have the preferences window open?
[06:33] <karex> .
[06:33] <zelrikriando> nickrud: yes
[06:33] <badkitty> sup nickrud
[06:33] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: attempting a du -sch is causing a delay as well,  its larger, but that is in subdirectories, not in the webroot
[06:33] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am under the tab "general video parameters"
[06:33] <nickrud> zelrikriando: second down is video, click the triangle next to it, you should see filters, output modules (what we want) and subtitles
[06:34] <zelrikriando> hmmm
[06:34] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, and the file system is... ext3?
[06:34] <odious> hello chaps. just wondering if i can apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade from alpha 4 to 8.04 when it comes out?
[06:34] <nickrud> badkitty: in over my head on vlc color mangling I fear
[06:34] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: checking my logs
[06:34] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok I got : predefined
[06:34] <zelrikriando> for the module
[06:35] <nickrud> zelrikriando: set it to xvideo
[06:35] <badkitty> nickrud: Hmm thats no fun.. I can't get VLC to play my curb yur enthusiasm dvd properly
[06:35] <xXBuddahXx> Could anyone help me out with a quick problem?
[06:35] <karex> hi, do you know how to save document directly to storage media while editing, so that it's save if there's electrical interrupt
[06:35] <nickrud> badkitty: plays others ok?
[06:35] <jmlane> Is there a way to 'reload' the /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow files to check for non-existent users or groups?
[06:35] <zelrikriando> nickrud:  ok
[06:36] <badkitty> nickrud: As far as I know.. haven't played too many.. only when my GF kicks me out of the living room
[06:36] <zelrikriando> nickrud: anything else?
[06:36] <nickrud> zelrikriando: now try the video
[06:36] <badkitty> nickrud: But as far as I know its fine
[06:36] <zelrikriando> nickrud: didnt fix it
[06:36] <xXBuddahXx> I cant change my screen resolution, and it wont save it when i do.
[06:36] <nickrud> badkitty: then maybe you could mention that particular disk on a vlc forum
[06:36] <odious> xXBuddahXx: did you try restarting?
[06:37] <ganesh> how the grub is getting edit when i install from ubiquity
[06:37] <xXBuddahXx> Several times, My monitor model isnt on there and it wont save it when i change it
[06:37] <odious> xXBuddahXx: try running 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' from the command line
[06:37] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I'm not certain what is up then. It's odd that it said predefined, mine didn't even have the option (unless you're translating, mine said default)
[06:37] <karex> hi......................................... anyone could help me???
[06:37] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am translating
[06:37] <badkitty> nickrud: Perhaps I shall
[06:38] <xXBuddahXx> If i run that will it restart my comp imediatly?
[06:38] <nickrud> zelrikriando: and it's only oggs that have problems?
[06:38] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I remember having problems with wmv
[06:39] <odious> xXBuddahXx: it will restart your gui
[06:39] <zelrikriando> nickrud: hm hold on
[06:39] <zelrikriando> nickrud: yeah wmv
[06:39] <kenalex> what could be the reason some applications are using some enormous fonts while other applications (eg python idle) and the desktop  fonts are properly sized
[06:39] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: rather, i thought I was,  I will reboot it, cause the logs are littered with iptables stuff.  do you know of another quick way to find out your filesystem type in command line?
[06:39] <zelrikriando> nickrud: .avi works fine
[06:40] <karex> thank you...
[06:40] <xXBuddahXx> Man, i feel like such a noob, Wheres CMD at?
[06:40] <odious> xXBuddahXx: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[06:40] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, Just check /etc/fstab
[06:40] <xXBuddahXx> Thanks man!
[06:40] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, it states what is mounted where
[06:40] <musikgoat> oh yes, its ext3
[06:40] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I am at a loss then
[06:41] <zelrikriando> nickrud: sorry they dont
[06:41] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: and its only 17G atm
[06:41] <zelrikriando> nickrud: the .avi dont
[06:41] <zelrikriando> nickrud: MPlayer works fine though on .avi
[06:42] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I can't think of anything else to check right now
[06:42] <zelrikriando> nickrud: that s ok
[06:42] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, how long does it take to display the directory in the file manager (if you have X)
[06:43] <musikgoat> i don't have x, its headless
[06:43] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I needed this to see my video screen captures actually
[06:43] <nickrud> zelrikriando: sorry to keep you up for nothing
[06:43] <zelrikriando> nickrud: no problem :)
[06:44] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am gonna go to bed for now
[06:44] <nickrud> zelrikriando: I'm around often, maybe I'll have a brainstorm
[06:44] <zelrikriando> nickrud: I am usually around on freenode
[06:45] <nickrud> zelrikriando: or you might have some luck with #vlc
[06:45] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: it seems to only be at this level that the delay has,  but seeing that sudo du -sch took just as long, do you think it could be disk issues?
[06:45] <zelrikriando> nickrud: ok
[06:45] <zelrikriando> bye
[06:45] <nickrud> bye
[06:46] <jmlane> is it possible to remove the lost+found directory on a partition, say if I want to mount this partition as /home?
[06:47] <sluggo> jmibanez: it's possible, but not necessary
[06:47] <jmlane> sluggo: Is there any benefit to leaving it there?
[06:47] <fitztrev> How can I have OpenOffice Writer not auto increment my number bullets when making a list?
[06:48] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, I don't think so, but it could be possible.  have you done any speed tweaking?
[06:48] <musikgoat> no
[06:48] <sluggo> jmlane: that's where fsck will store things it recovers when it runs, but i believe it'll automatically recreated
[06:48] <Hammer89> anyone know how to remove that little black triangle from the main-menu applet?
[06:49] <nickrud> fitztrev: don't use numbers?
[06:49] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, does the disk grind/click while you are using ls?
[06:50] <fitztrev> nickrud: I want to be able to manually enter numbers
[06:51] <twentyafterfour> fitzrev: I would look for an auto-format feature and turn it off... ;)
[06:51] <twentyafterfour> or use abiword
[06:52] <fitztrev> twentyafterfour: Ok, I see the option in AutoCorrect, but how do you disable it?
[06:52] <chaosrl> hey, i just updated, and now gutsy is extremely slow. is there any way i can roll back to before?
[06:52] <musikgoat> no, it seems like its not really doing much except its usual minimal hd noise
[06:53] <musikgoat> obiwannekody: ^^
[06:53] <jmlane> sluggo: Cool, thanks.
[06:54] <jmlane> I don't need to set any special permissions on /home if it is mounted from a separate partition?
[06:54] <twentyafterfour> fitztrev: format menu
[06:54] <obiwannekody> musikgoat, I don't think it is a hardware problem, but if it is a software one it is beyond me.  Is it for every directory or just in /var?
[06:54] <Hemebond> The latest updates broke my sound. Now I have to hax teh mainframe and recompile teh kernils.
[06:54] <twentyafterfour> fitztrev: autoformat sub menu
[06:54] <nickrud> fitztrev: or create your own style that does what you want. Like a paragraph with hanging indent and a decimal tab on the first line
[06:54] <backgen> Hey guys, i need some serious help, Does anyone have any experience using Boot Camp on Mac OSX to install Windows XP cuz i just did it, and the Windows install went very smoothly but i can't boot onto my Mac partition now (I know it's not Linux related, but it;s my Roomates MacBook Pro and he's gonna kill me!!!!)
[06:55] <Hemebond> lol
[06:55] <Hemebond> Get your papers in order.
[06:55] <friedtofu> hm... cant you install linux and triple boot? o.O
[06:55] <Hemebond> Notify next of kin.
[06:55] <chaosrl> i upgraded the old 2.6.22-14 kernals that i'm not even using. is there any way to undo the updates?
[06:55] <nickrud> backgen: try asking on #macosx
[06:56] <backgen> thanks nick
[06:56]  * nickrud gives last rites to backgen
[06:56] <gilda> tsk tsk the cardinal rule - never touch some1 elses puter
[06:57] <enduser> Is there a form of ubuntu I can put on my old Mac G3?
[06:57] <chaosrl> haha just kidding everyone. i just remembered wrong and booted the wrong kernal. sorry.... xD
[06:57] <twentyafterfour> enduser: I would think that it should work
[06:57] <backgen> um...the mac osx channel is pretty dead...can anyone here help?
[06:58] <Slart> what was the kernel update about? it didn't change version numbers.. or did it?
[06:58] <gilda> enduser i do believe ull need a ppc version
[06:58] <nickrud> !ppc
[06:58] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:58] <fitztrev> twentyafterfour: nickrud:  just installed abiword cause I'm in a rush.  works great! thanks!
[06:58] <twentyafterfour> fitzrev: cool, good luck. if you want to try it later look in the autoformat menu in oo.org
[06:58] <enduser> where would I find a ppc version?
[06:59] <jmlane> What options should I add to a fstab entry for a partition containing /home?
[06:59] <ghost> how do I delite entries in my 'menulist' now that I am in xfce
[06:59] <twentyafterfour> jmlane: defaults should work
[06:59] <ghost> there is no application to control what is in there, so where is that information normally stored?
[06:59] <nickrud> enduser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[07:00] <Frogzoo> jmlane: nothing really, consider noatime maybe
[07:00] <J_5> what is news for in /var/log?
[07:00] <jmlane> twentyafterfour: I don't need anything else?
[07:00] <nickrud> J_5: if you have an nntp server that's where the logs would go
[07:00] <twentyafterfour> jmlane: this is my entry: UUID=f1399cd7-bc7e-4ec9-9771-ac78d7a63e90 /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[07:00] <gilda> ghost u can edit the menus thru xfce -- umm its in the settings menu somewheres
[07:00] <J_5> oh ok, thanks
[07:01] <jmlane> Frogzoo: what's the inode access time table for?
[07:01] <ghost> gilda, I have played with that app, it does not seem to be able to edit the things that where there before xfce
[07:01] <enduser> twentyafterfour gilda nickrud thanks I will go check out that link and then I am sure I will have a few more questions.
[07:01] <backgen> hahahahahahahahahaha
[07:01] <backgen> guys guess what
[07:01] <gilda> ah k ghost
[07:01] <bod_> if i use the terminal to echo a value that i know will be ; 95.696503  ,.,. how can i tell the terminal to round it to the nearest whole number?
[07:01] <ghost> gilda they appear to be hold over's from the gnomemenu
[07:01] <backgen> turns out i'll stay alive
[07:01] <gilda> ah then maybe u wanna stop starting gnome services with xfce
[07:01] <jmlane> twentyafterfour: cool, thanks.
[07:02] <backgen> we had been pressing the Apple key instead of the Options key on bootup and thats why it wasn't doing anything!
[07:02] <ghost> gilda they are not gnome apps
[07:02] <ghost> tl:dr i switched from gnome to xfce a few minuts ago
[07:02] <gilda> the menu from previous gnome installation / whatever would be a service though not an apps
[07:03] <ghost> do you know where that data is saved in gnome then
[07:03] <gilda> if u have hold overs a test would be to not starrt gnome services and see if its still gomes up
[07:03] <Ein2015> does anybody here know how to configure finch?
[07:03] <ghost> because I know they are just little files with instructions stored in some folder
[07:03] <gilda> ~/.gnome?
[07:03] <ghost> let me check
[07:03] <ghost> i don't have a .gnome
[07:03] <ghost> i deleted it
[07:04] <levander> Lately, sometimes when I do a 'apt-get update' some of the index files fail to download.  Is this because the server the index file is on is having problems?
[07:04] <levander> security.ubuntu.com is one that I'm having trouble with tonight.
[07:04] <Frogzoo> jmlane: by default, ext keeps an updated record of the time a file was last accessed, turning off atime will reduce disk traffic
[07:04] <macd> levander, chances are, yes.
[07:05] <Frogzoo> levander: yes
[07:05] <levander> ubuntu.com has been having trouble handling the apt load lately?
[07:05] <Hammer89> is 3d acceleration possible with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m integrated GPU on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <bod_> levander, i just did a sudo apt-get update without problems
[07:06] <nickrud> Hammer89: yes, system->admin->restricted manager
[07:06] <arooni_> is there a keyboard shortcut for: minimize, maximize windows in nautilus ?
[07:06] <Hammer89> hmm
[07:07] <bod_> does anyone know how to round a numbeer in the terminal,.,. eg ,.,. round 5.7 to 6
[07:07] <bod_> ??
[07:07] <levander> bod_: I just tried another 'apt-get update' after you said that.  Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54813/
[07:07] <Frogzoo> arooni_: it's gnome you want, not nautilus
[07:07] <arooni_> ok gnome
[07:08] <jmlane> Frogzoo: Thanks.
[07:08] <twentyafterfour> arooni_: it depends on which window manager you use
[07:08] <Frogzoo> arooni_: arooni_ sys -> prefs -> kb shortcuts
[07:09] <Hammer89> nickrud: (or anyone else) do you have any idea how to get direct rendering working on my ATI GPU?
[07:09] <bod_> levander, thats really weird,. this is mine ,.,. : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54814/
[07:09] <nickrud> Hammer89: did you do the restricted manager and reboot? I have a 200 and that worked fine
[07:09] <arooni_> twentyafterfour, i'm using the fany one (compiz fusion built into gutsy)
[07:09] <Hammer89> nickrud: yeah... but direct rendering still isn't working
[07:10] <bloodboy> hello, i need to perform a system rescue on my 7.10 ubuntu system
[07:10] <jmlane> Does /home need the sticky bit?
[07:10] <twentyafterfour> arooni_: Compiz has options, install the compiz manager
[07:10] <Hammer89> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/m38171643
[07:10] <arooni_> alt + f10 and alt + f5
[07:10] <bloodboy> my system locks up at boot time because of a failed init of the network manager
[07:10] <arooni_> pretty nifty!!!!
[07:10] <levander> bod_: Where's yours?
[07:10] <bloodboy> plz someone help
[07:10] <levander> bod_: nm, just saw
[07:10] <nickrud> Hammer89: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:10] <bloodboy> i already have the alternate ubuntu iso downloaded and burned to a cd
[07:10] <bod_> levander, what? my pastebin?
[07:11] <twentyafterfour> arooni_: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:11] <bod_> sudo
[07:11] <bloodboy> i need the specific command for resetting my system files in linux to the default
[07:11] <Hammer89> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/d2b41e16f
[07:11] <bod_> levander, ok,.,.
[07:11] <levander> Am I the only one having trouble with 'apt-get update' servers right now?
[07:11] <Poka> bloodboy: there is no such command i am afraid
[07:11] <twentyafterfour> arooni_: cool. compiz is nice...
[07:12] <bloodboy> Poka what shoukd i do?
[07:12] <bloodboy> i;m pissing in my balls here
[07:12] <bod_> arooni_, you can change those hotkeys to whatever you want in ccsm
[07:12] <bloodboy> seriuolsy
[07:12] <bloodboy> i cant access my data
[07:12] <Poka> bloodboy: what happened?
[07:12] <Poka> !ask > bloodboy
[07:12] <kenalex> twentyafterfour:yes it looks bad ass
[07:12] <karley> if I install ubuntu-restricted-extras will it mess with VLC plugin for firefox?
[07:13] <bod_> anyone having problems with apt-get today?
[07:13] <nickrud> Hammer89: according to that, you've got 3d working fine. Do you have xserver-xgl installed?
[07:13] <karley> bod_ no
[07:13] <Hammer89> nickrud: how do I check?
[07:13] <bloodboy> after i installed the glib library the whole system can't boot up anymore
[07:13] <Hammer89> nickrud: the first pastebin link I posted said direct rendering wasn't working
[07:13] <obiwannekody> bloodboy, does the fallback kernel boot?
[07:13] <st3v3dnd> hoping someone can help here. I just got a new dell sp2008wfp, which should display at a resolution of 1680x1050, but I can't get ubuntu to display at any resolution near that.
[07:13] <bod_> karley, could you do me a favour,. and pastebin your output for sudo apt-get update   ?
[07:13] <bloodboy> no
[07:13] <Hammer89> nickrud: it's direct rendering I'm having issues with
[07:13] <bloodboy> any kernel can;t boot
[07:14] <nickrud> Hammer89: ps -A | grep X , if you get Xgl back you're running xserver-xgl and you will see that error.
[07:14] <bloodboy> i think there is a seriuos bug woth the wireless network manager in ubuntu
[07:14] <bod_> bloodboy,  thats not good,,.,. recovery mode?
[07:14] <bloodboy> recovery mode works
[07:14] <levander> bod_: Here's my sources.list, I don't see anything wrong with it.
[07:14] <jmlane> Thanks for all the help guys
[07:14] <ghost> hey if i want to search my computer what would the cli command be. Say i am looking for a file, i want to search everything under /, what would I type
[07:14] <st3v3dnd> I have run dpkg-reconfigure, and the resolutions selected there, are not even the ones available in the resolution selection window.
[07:14] <nickrud> Hammer89: lines 728 thru 731 say you do
[07:14] <bod_> bloodboy, use recovery mode to remove the package that screwd things up
[07:15] <Poka> ghost: find / -name "file" -type f
[07:15] <bod_> levander, well,.,. where?
[07:15] <bloodboy> theres no GUI in there, i feel naked and so helpless
[07:15] <gilda> ghost, locate filename
[07:15] <Hammer89> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/d1f5cb154
[07:15] <bloodboy> if i remove glib will it solve the problem?
[07:15] <bod_> bloodboy, cli is more usefull then gui,.,. removing it might,. might not,.,.dunno
[07:15] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, what hardware are you on? ie: which driver is xorg using?
[07:15] <bloodboy> there is some regression issues in Ubuntu 7.10
[07:15] <bod_> explain?
[07:15] <methods> isn't there something in the new init system that insures a service crashes to restart it ?
[07:15] <bloodboy> y so many bugs in 7.10 compared to fiesty?
[07:16] <Hammer89> nickrud: running glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" gives me this: http://pastebin.com/d66a10420
[07:16] <Poka> bloodboy: file a bug report. be happy.
[07:16] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: It's currently using nvidia
[07:16] <bod_> i have no bugs in mine bloodboy
[07:16] <Hammer89> nickrud: which says direct rendering isn't working...
[07:16] <levander> bod_: my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54816/
[07:16] <nickrud> Hammer89: yes, you are running xserver-xgl. You have 3d working otherwise your compiz wouldn't be working. It's a known issue
[07:16] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, did you install using the restricted driver manager?
[07:16] <bloodboy> i want to tell you guys about my error, but i'm no linux expert
[07:17] <bloodboy> i need your help to diagnose the problem and solve it
[07:17] <AlgorithmicContr> good night
[07:17] <nickrud> Hammer89: It sucks having ati. It's 3d accell available to all apps with compiz running or compiz running and 3d available to no other app
[07:17] <kaushal> hi
[07:17] <Poka> Hammer89: what card?
[07:17] <MoLE_> ghost, are you looking for a specific file?
[07:17] <kaushal> where does the update manager download the packages
[07:17] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: it shows it as being in use in the restricted driver manager
[07:17] <kaushal> temporarily
[07:17] <Hammer89> Poka: Radeon Xpress 200m
[07:17] <bod_> levander, try this one
[07:17] <ghost> I am looking for where the gnome menu keeps its data
[07:17] <bod_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54817/
[07:17] <nickrud> Poka: he has ati 200m with xserver-xgl running, so glxinfo reports no direct rendering
[07:17] <ghost> so i can manually edit that data.
[07:17] <bloodboy> my question is , how do i boot ubuntu with the network daemons disabled?
[07:17] <Poka> ubotu: help
[07:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:18] <bod_> bloodboy, why not just unplug ur wifi dongle?
[07:18] <bloodboy> it's inbuilt
[07:18] <Hammer89> nickrud: it's not possible to get Direct Rendering working with my gpu?
[07:18] <kaushal> The packages files will be cached locally for installation
[07:18] <bloodboy> ipw3945
[07:18] <bloodboy> ok let me try now
[07:18] <bloodboy> i disable wireless in BIOD
[07:18] <nickrud> Hammer89: you can test this yourself. uninstall xserver-xgl , then log out and back in. You will see glxinfo reporting direct rendering: yes
[07:18] <bloodboy> BIOS
[07:18] <bloodboy> thanks for the idea
[07:18] <bloodboy> thanks a lot
[07:18] <kaushal> :( :( ::
[07:18] <bloodboy> i will disable wireless in BIOS
[07:18] <bloodboy> will see how it goes
[07:18] <Poka> Hammer89: it should work.
[07:19] <st3v3dnd> if I run nvidia-settings it allows me to pick the resolution i want, but when I try to apply it, it gives an error "Failed to set MetaMode (35) 'CRT-0: 1680x1050" @1680x1050 +0+0' (Mode 1680x1050, id: 50) on X screen 0"
[07:19] <bloodboy> kthx again
[07:19] <bod_> !enter > bloodboy                             please read the private message from ubotu
[07:19] <Poka> Hammer89: did you install radeon driver?
[07:19] <Hammer89> nickrud: that wont screw me up? (I'm sortof an emerging linux user... not quite up to par yet ;) )
[07:19] <kaushal> Poka:  Hi
[07:19] <Hammer89> Poka: I installed the default restricted driver... whatever that may be
[07:19] <Poka> hi kaushal
[07:19] <nickrud> Hammer89: nope, won't hurt anything. You won't be able to run compiz, though until you reinstall xserver-xgl
[07:19] <Poka> Hammer89: i don't run that card but let me look it up for you.
[07:19] <Poka> sec
[07:20] <kaushal> where does the update manager caches the package for installation
[07:20] <kaushal> I mean which folder
[07:20] <Poka> kaushal: /var/cache/apt
[07:20] <kaushal> ok
[07:20] <OrTigaS> hi
[07:20] <bod_> chhi
[07:20] <Hammer89> nickrud: hmm... is reinstalling it actually going to fix anything... or is it just going to cause glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"to give me accurate results?
[07:21] <enduser> twentyafterfour gilda nickrud: I am downloading an iso disk for xubuntu 7.10 to try on the Mac G3 with 64mb ram. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I will keep you posted.
[07:21] <karley> if I install ubuntu-restricted-extras will it mess with VLC plugin for firefox?
[07:21] <twentyafterfour> enduser: that amount of ram might be a problem
[07:21] <Odd-rationale> karley: No it shouldn;t
[07:21] <Poka> Hammer89: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:21] <Poka> !radeon
[07:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:21] <bod_> Hammer89, when using grep dont use "" unless the word/words your looking for actually include "" or you may get bad results
[07:21] <twentyafterfour> enduser: you will probably need the "alternate" install, the livecd probably needs a lot more RAM than that
[07:21] <nickrud> Hammer89: it's not a 'fix' . When you have xserver-xgl installed glxinfo will report no direct rendering. It's just the way it is.
[07:22] <Hemebond> Halp. I am suffering from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/16041
[07:22] <nickrud> Hammer89: if you want to run 3d games for example, you must not run xserver-xgl so the 3d acceleration is not hogged by xserver-xgl
[07:22] <Hammer89> nickrud: gotcha.... my desktop is heavily dependent on compiz though
[07:23] <nickrud> Hammer89: yup. That's why I don't run compiz on my 200
[07:23] <Hammer89> nickrud: is that going to be fixed any time in the near future?
[07:23] <enduser> twentyafterfour: I am downloading the alternate CD maybe it is not an ISO sorry I am new at this so I don't know what all the terms mean.
[07:23] <Hammer89> bod_: thanks for the advice :)
[07:23] <twentyafterfour> enduser: the alternate cd is what you want
[07:23] <nickrud> Hammer89: yes, the latest ati drivers don't require xserver-xgl. April will see it in ubuntu
[07:23] <levander> bod_: Really weird, I got errors on different repositories when I tried yours: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54818/
[07:24] <twentyafterfour> enduser: you should be on the right track, good luck
[07:24] <Gm4n> I'm trying to install subversion on my box, but when I say apt-get install subversion, it throws me a "Couldn't find package subversion"... any suggestions?
[07:24] <Hammer89> nickrud: awesome... I'll just hang on till then... compiz is more important to me now than direct rendering
[07:24] <twentyafterfour> enduser: you should probably think about getting more ram though
[07:24] <bod_> levander, that was actually me editing yours,. il give you my one, 1 sec
[07:24] <gilda> i hate winter\
[07:24] <levander> bod_: I'm wondering if it's because I don't have certain apt-key's installed???
[07:25] <enduser> twentyafterfour: that is what is almost downloaded may done in 5 more munites. Where would I buy more ram for this old thing?
[07:25] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: any thoughts?
[07:25] <gilda> enduser, u would not believe the amount of ram thats buyable online for the old g3's
[07:25] <twentyafterfour> enduser: what kind of g3? It probably uses pc100 or pc133
[07:25] <nickrud> Gm4n: system->admin->software sources, make sure the first four items are selected and the cdrom is not
[07:25] <bod_> levander, this is my one : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54819/
[07:26] <Hammer89> nickrud: just curious... will upgrading from 7.10 to the newest release in April mess up my desktop setup/theming?
[07:26] <nickrud> Hammer89: no.
[07:26] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, pastebin your xorg.conf file (in /etc/X11/) and I'll have a look.
[07:26] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda: here are the specs http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_333.html
[07:26] <Hammer89> nickrud: good :P
[07:27] <nickrud> Hammer89: but the general rule of thumb still applies: back up before upgrading to a new release ;-P
[07:27] <gilda> this is the key part for when u purchase more ram to know enduser 	Supports 144-pin PC100 SDRAM SO-DIMM memory modules.
[07:27] <twentyafterfour> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=552&Nav=|c:150|&Sort=0&Recs=10
[07:27] <puff> Hi, I upgraded to ubuntu gutsy.  Now alt-tab works, but shift-alt-tab (which works like alt-tab but goes in the other direction) doesn't work.
[07:27] <Hammer89> nickrud: aye... not sure how to back everything up though... especially with themes/settings/etc
[07:28] <bod_> was 7.10 released 2007 ?
[07:28] <twentyafterfour> sorry enduser: pc100 sdram for a laptop is $20 for 128mb: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=552&Nav=|c:150|&Sort=0&Recs=10
[07:28] <nickrud> Hammer89: back up your home directory. All your settings are in files/directories that start with a period in that directory
[07:28] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: http://pastebin.com/m1fe4e75a
[07:28] <astro76> bod_: ubuntu release versions are year.month
[07:28] <gilda> thats the 144 pin twentyafterfour ?
[07:28] <Hammer89> nickrud: Hmm... okay
[07:29] <nickrud> Hammer89: try  ls -a   in a terminal
[07:29] <twentyafterfour> gilda: not sure
[07:29] <nickrud> Hammer89:  ls -a ~  that is
[07:29] <twentyafterfour> gilda: yes
[07:29] <gilda> good lol
[07:29] <bod_> astro76, kk,. ta, so gutsy has only been out about 6 months then will be replaced,.,.lol
[07:29] <Poka> !lol
[07:29] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[07:29] <patbam> greetings earthlings. anyone know of a way to convert an svg to a pdf?
[07:29] <Hammer89> nickrud: I've got hidden files set to be visible from nautilus
[07:29] <bod_> ,.,.laugh out loud
[07:30] <Hammer89> haha
[07:30] <Gm4n> thanks, nickrud, that did it for me :)
[07:30] <nickrud> Hammer89: then you can see them all. A good tool for backups is sbackup
[07:30] <astro76> bod_: yes a big part of ubuntu is regular releases every six-months
[07:30] <twentyafterfour> ubotu: anti-lulz
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anti-lulz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <enduser> twentyafterfour gilda: I don't know the ram might have been updated. I guess I have to get it running before I can check.
[07:30] <ghost> its very up to day
[07:30] <ghost> date
[07:30] <ghost> So does anyone know where gnome's menu-lists are stored on the system?
[07:31] <Poka> :-)
[07:31] <enduser> twentyafterfour gilda: unless you guys know a way to check without an os on the machine.
[07:31] <Hammer89> nickrud: I've got sbackup installed... not sure how to use it though... there's no man page?
[07:31] <puff> Where's a good place for somebody to ask about getting wine working under ubuntu?
[07:31] <ghost> they are not stored under ~
[07:31] <bod_> astro76, but they dont start from scratch? each new release is just a modification of the previous?
[07:31] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, it looks fine - have you tried changing the resolution using system --> admin --> screens and graphics?
[07:31] <nickrud> Gm4n: you should probably check that dialog , the updates tab and enable the security and updates as well. Don't enable proposed unless you are good at bug reports ;)
[07:31] <gilda> enduser ur bios should know but fekked if i know how to find that on an old g3
[07:31] <twentyafterfour> enduser: not sure about macs
[07:31] <gilda> its probly command+c or sumething
[07:32] <mkquist> hey all, general linux question...  does anyone know if linux has better hardware control than windows?  Or is it just different?
[07:32] <Gm4n> nickrud, this is actually for a friend. I'm a debian user myself ;-)
[07:32] <nickrud> Hammer89: no, but the default backup is pretty good
[07:32] <puff> bod_: That's more or less correct, it would be accurate to phrase it as "a regular overall update every 6 months".
[07:32] <Poka> mkquist: control?
[07:32] <twentyafterfour> gilda: 64mb should run but it might not be very fast, go ahead and try the install.
[07:32] <MoLE_> mkquist, what do you mean by "hardware control"
[07:32] <st3v3dnd> it doesn't give it as an option.
[07:32] <nickrud> Gm4n: heh. Then you should have been able to track that source issue down yourself (lol, since it's a long line ;)
[07:32] <astro76> bod_: no of course not from scratch... somewhere in every six-month cycle it is synced up with debian, keeping any ubuntu patches if still necessary
[07:32] <st3v3dnd> xrandr -q doesn't show it either
[07:32] <gilda> i didnt say it wouldnt twentyafterfour that was some1 else
[07:33] <enduser> gilda: how do I get to the bios?
[07:33] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, are you still in 'bulletproof X' mode?
[07:33] <mkquist> well, got a little kinda dodgey machine that seems to work in linux, but only in windows w/a separate ata controller...  With linux, it usually works with the onboard ata controller...
[07:33] <Gm4n> probably so, nickrud, but I've never seen ubuntu, and I'm used to non-CD sources included by default. I figured it was something you guys would know off the top of your head =P
[07:33] <gilda> not sure enduser for ur mac
[07:33] <puff> Anybody know how much of the tweaking & etc I'll hvae to re-do after updating to gutsy?
[07:33] <twentyafterfour> gilda: sorry didn't try to suggest that you did say that ;)
[07:33] <Hemebond> What's the command to show what version of Linux you're running?
[07:33] <enduser> gilda: sorry I just understood fekked.
[07:33] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: not sure what you mean, it's just booting X normally though
[07:33] <bod_> puff, astro76, im just sorta makin sure when i upgrade to hardy im not gonna have to wade through bugs for months untill they're all fixed,. like i would have to say on windows vista the day it was released
[07:34] <Gm4n> Hemebond: uname -a
[07:34] <Hemebond> Thank you.
[07:34] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, what's the maximum resolution you can get?
[07:34] <twentyafterfour> endusers: macs don't have the normal bios afaik
[07:34] <nickrud> Gm4n: yeah, that was a text replace in xchat. See it often. But your best source of support for ubuntu is still going to be your debian skills.
[07:34] <mkquist> its not a ms bash question...  just a question...
[07:34] <st3v3dnd> 1152x864
[07:34] <humblerodent> ....rawr!
[07:34] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_:  1152x864
[07:34] <gilda> mkquist, some ppl notice that linux runs the hw they have better others dont - it depends onthe applications u choose and the way u work ur hw
[07:35] <mkquist> idk, maybe this should be a question in #debian...
[07:35] <Poka> mkquist: should be OK. unless your hardware are cutting-edge.
[07:35] <Gm4n> I'm planning on applying those (if/when needed, debian is pretty friendly so maybe I won't have to). Thanks for the help, nickrud :)
[07:35] <nickrud> bod_: I either run the pre-release ubuntus, or wait a month. Same things
[07:35] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, is an onboard video card?
[07:35] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: yes
[07:35] <enduser> twentyafterfour gilda the cd is downloaded I am going to burn it and then give it a try. I will keep you posted in a few minutes.
[07:35] <ganesh> thekayhan, if i am installing on the partition which i created early ,it is working fine but my prob is im not able to install if i create a fresh partition thro ubiquity ?
[07:35] <bod_> nickrud,  to make sure theres no buggies?
[07:35] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_:  it displayed higher than that though before this
[07:35] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, was the colour depth the same before?
[07:36] <mkquist> hardly cutting edge, a box i got running windows.  Came with another form of linux, like pclinux (i think that was it).  But the only way to run windows was w/ a pci ata controller
[07:36] <nickrud> Gm4n: I switched to ubuntu so I didn't have deal with unstable anymore, and spend some time here so I don't get rusty. I have zero problems on my installs
[07:36] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: yes
[07:36] <nickrud> bod_: yup
[07:36] <Poka> mkquist: should be OK. give livecd a try
[07:36] <Poka> !livecd
[07:36] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[07:36] <bod_>  nickrud  will i be disapointed if i upgrade to hardy in april?
[07:36] <mkquist> live cd works w/xubuntu
[07:37] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, so what happened when it changed?
[07:37] <Poka> mkquist: so get a image burn it off and there ya go. solve!
[07:37] <gilda> toss it on give it a whirl mkquist see what u think after a while
[07:37] <nickrud> bod_: doubt it highly. The last LTS release was rock solid (but they pushed back the release 2 months to deal with issues, I would be pleased if they did that again, it worked out very well in the long run)
[07:37] <mkquist> no that I know.  Im running gutsy on my machines.  I like it, but this is for someone else.  A windows person
[07:38] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: When I hooked up the new monitor, and configured it, first auto detect screwed it up
[07:38] <gilda> ah depends on what the windows person does before you convert them mkquist
[07:38] <st3v3dnd> then a manual reconfig got me to where I am now
[07:38] <mkquist> thanks all, just curious if there was any 'definitive' thoughts on it.  Maybe it's just one of those things
[07:38] <bod_> nickrud,  so your hoping for a june release date? if it was june would you still wait your month or upgrade in june?
[07:39] <gilda> youll want to get all their favorite stuffs in order and whatnot
[07:39] <mkquist> gilda: well, they just might convert thru no choice... =p
[07:39] <Poka> mkquist: yeah it is. just tell him to give livecd a try and see how ti goes.
[07:39] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, Are you sure that your monitor can handle 1680x1050?
[07:39] <gilda> that works to *eg* mkquist
[07:39] <mkquist> Poka: yea that was kinda my thought
[07:39] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: Yes, that's its default resolution
[07:39] <Poka> :)
[07:39] <nickrud> bod_: not hoping for a june release, just pleased if they decided to push it back to make it better if needed. And I will install it in a prerelease version, then reinstall when it's released
[07:40] <bod_> nickrud,  pre-release - beta ?
[07:40] <mkquist> as usual thanx all
[07:40] <gilda> st3v3dnd, you can forcefully declare the resolutions in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you believe the machine can handle it
[07:40] <nickrud> bod_: yeah, probably the first release candidate, a month or less before release
[07:40] <Poka> mkquist: yw
[07:40] <gilda> but ull want to make sure the refresh rates r correct
[07:40] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, what you could try is backup your working xorg.conf and then edit the "screen" section so that the only mode available is 1680x1050.  Stick with 24 bit colour.  Then restart the x-server (logout then login again)
[07:40] <Poka> gilda: most of the modern lcd/crts are intelligent enough i believe
[07:40] <st3v3dnd> gilda: I have afaik. they get ignored
[07:41] <Poka> gilda: they can self-adjust their res.
[07:41] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: I tried that, it ignores it and drops it to 800x600
[07:41] <bod_> nickrud, cool,.,.so beta prob in march?
[07:41] <nickrud> bod_: probable
[07:41] <gilda> Poka, i have a methusala of an old ibm monitor not up to standards on the new stuffs ;)
[07:41] <bullgard1> What is meant by "desktop search tool"?
[07:41] <Poka> gilda: ;)
[07:41] <Rictoo> guys, I've never installed ubuntu (im a gentoo user) but im guiding someone else through it
[07:41] <Rictoo> and he is here
[07:41] <Rictoo> http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zomgzqi9.png
[07:41] <nickrud> bullgard1: like google desktop search
[07:41] <bod_> nickrud, can u link me to a page with the major changes info on hardy?
[07:41] <Poka> no so then ;)
[07:41] <Rictoo> does this mean it would format his windows partition?
[07:42] <Rictoo> does this mean it would format his windows partition? http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zomgzqi9.png
[07:42] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, must be a problem with monitor refresh rates.  Did you know you can import a windows .inf file for an unknown monitor if you have the driver CD?
[07:42] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_:  I'll give that a shot
[07:42] <nickrud> bod_: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+specs?show=all
[07:42] <Poka> !enter | Rictoo
[07:42] <ubotu> Rictoo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:42] <Rictoo> Sorry
[07:42] <bod_> nickrud, thankin you muchly
[07:43] <gilda> Rictoo, you may want him to use the guided partitioning - but if u do not *check* the ntfs partition u should be good to go
[07:43] <twentyafterfour> ubotu: factoids, u has them
[07:43] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, if 'plug and play' doesn't work and your monitor isn't listed, you could try a generic monitor at the appropriate resolution as well
[07:43] <bod_> nickrud, any idea what this is :   	 windows-authentication-integration
[07:43] <bullgard1> nickrud: But I do not know "Google desktop search" either.
[07:44] <Rictoo> gilda: He did, but how come on the picture it says ntfs Used: 0mb?
[07:44] <kaushal> hi again
[07:45] <kaushal> where can i get information about linux-headers and linux-image
[07:45] <kaushal> and whats their purpose
[07:45] <gilda> Rictoo, i am not sure - its been eons since i had win on a puter to see ntfs pop up
[07:46] <gilda> but could be related to it not using ntfs-3g and not reading the partition correctly ?
[07:46] <Slart> kaushal: linux-image is your kernel.. that is what linux is
[07:46] <friedtofu> well - Rictoo, if there is nothing saying NTFS on it, you're DELETING your NTFS partition...
[07:46] <kaushal> Slart: Thanks
[07:46] <kaushal> and what about linux-headers
[07:46] <Rictoo> friedtofu: there is
[07:46] <Rictoo> http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zomgzqi9.png
[07:46] <Rictoo> look at that, friedtofu
[07:47] <Slart> kaushal: headers contain information about the kernel.. for programmers and when you're compiling software that needs to work with the kernel
[07:47] <friedtofu> ah. yeah - why does it say 0 used?
[07:47] <gilda> if you have him drop to cmd with and sudo fdisk /dev/sda1    then p    to double check
[07:47] <Rictoo> I'm just confused as to why it shows the ntfs part as 0mb used
[07:47] <Rictoo> no idea
[07:47] <bod_> levander, did you try my sources.list ?
[07:47] <Rictoo> he did the guided partitioning
[07:47] <friedtofu> hm.
[07:47] <kaushal> Slart: Thanks Again
[07:47] <Slart> you're welcome, kaushal
[07:48] <kaushal> Can i have the documentation for this
[07:48] <kaushal> that would be great
[07:48] <ThreeFingerPete> can anyone recomend some resources for overclocking an ATI in linux/ubuntu?
[07:48] <Poka> kaushal: apt-cache search linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:48] <Slart> kaushal: well.. you have the source =).. look at the ubuntu site.. there might be some info on www.kernel.org
[07:50] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: I tried messing with screen resolution under the admin section, and I got to 1680x1050, but it's not fitting it to the monitor
[07:50] <unagi> my webcam works via tvtime, how do i get it to broadcast on aim or msn
[07:50] <Poka> unagi: do they even support video?
[07:50] <unagi> yes on windows they do
[07:50] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: It's too big, and I have when I mouse to the sides it scrolls the desktop
[07:51] <master_obredar> i need help with wine pleeeeeez
[07:51] <nickrud> bullgard1: it indexes your files, ideally reading the file itself. That way when you search, you search by name and content
[07:51] <Poka> !ask | master_obredar
[07:51] <ubotu> master_obredar: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:51] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda:  The Mac found the Install CD and I am starting the install!!! I will keep you posted Thank so much for your help!!
[07:51] <bullgard1> nickrud: Thank you for explaining.
[07:52] <nickrud> bod_: has something to do with integrating into windows domains
[07:52] <bod_> nickrud, english?
[07:52] <alan> can someone help me mount my usb hd. it doenst auto mount
[07:52] <theTrav> ok, so I've done some theming of my ubuntu install, however between login and system ready I still have a screen full of that god awful salmon/peach pink colour.  How do I make it just black or some other subtle colour?
[07:52] <nickrud> bod_: that's about as english as I can get, I don't know much at all about windows networking and authentication :)
[07:53] <master_obredar> i downloaded wine useing the terminal and i cant figure out how to use it cause it doesn't show up in my applications menu     i'm useing ubuntu 7.04
[07:53] <alan> it also says in mtab that /dev/sda1 is mounted to /
[07:53] <Poka> !wine| master_obredar
[07:53] <ubotu> master_obredar: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:53] <bod_> nickrud, ok,.,.ty
[07:53] <master_obredar> i did that
[07:53] <unagi> master_obredar:  what are you trying to install
[07:53] <master_obredar> even added the extra info
[07:53] <master_obredar> veoh player
[07:54] <unagi> sudo wine whatever.exe
[07:54] <alan> you dont need sudo usually for that.
[07:54] <unagi> ?
[07:54] <unagi> to install?
[07:54] <alan> for wine.
[07:54] <alan> you dont need root access.
[07:54] <master_obredar> ok i'll try it brb  ty
[07:55] <Slart> unagi: sudo wine?? why oh why?
[07:55] <unagi> erm
[07:55] <unagi> to install?
[07:55] <alan> ... no.
[07:55] <ere4si> theTrav, if you go to system - admin - login window then the local tab you can set the background
[07:55] <Slart> unagi: no
[07:55] <Flynsarmy> Anyone familiar with XMing able to help me get my ubuntu windows on XP?
[07:55] <alan> BAD.
[07:55] <Slart> unagi: you do not want to let windows software roam around freely on your linux system... now do you? =)
[07:55] <unagi> i honestly didnt think it would
[07:55] <theTrav> ere4si, thanks, I have already set that to black.  I'm using the Blue Swirl theme if that makes any difference
[07:55] <alan> can someone help me mount this stupid usb hd that doesnt auto mount?
[07:56]  * nickrud doesn't want windows software roaming around his system, root or not
[07:56] <unagi> seeing as how its basically a virtual machine, nothing should get past wine
[07:56] <Slart> unagi: eh.. wine is nothing like a virtual machine
[07:56] <alan> wine is not a virtual machine
[07:56] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda:  It is having some trouble finding CD-Rom Drivers. I don't have any, so I am going to try to continue by picking manually select CD-ROM modules. Cross your fingers.
[07:56] <alan> wine is an emulator
[07:56] <alan> jk
[07:56] <bullgard1> nickrud: So the Ubuntu program 'Tracker Search' is a 'desktop search tool'?
[07:56] <Slart> unagi: you're thinking of virtual box
[07:56] <nickrud> bullgard1: exactly
[07:56] <alan> i made a funny
[07:56] <Poka> alan: wine is not an emulator
[07:56] <MoLE_> alan :P
[07:56] <unagi> correct, but how different does it really handle exe than a vm would
[07:56] <alan> :x
[07:56] <Poka> !wine | alan
[07:56] <ubotu> alan: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:56] <master_obredar> says that it could not load it
[07:57] <Slart> hehe.. you brought it on yourself, alan =)
[07:57] <alan> haha
[07:57] <ere4si> theTrav, that's what I changed and got a black screen until system ready...
[07:57] <nickrud> I've always wondered just how it isn't an emulator
[07:57] <theTrav> dang
[07:57] <unagi> i would love it if i could get my tuner to work
[07:57] <bullgard1> nickrud: Are there more desktop search tools available in Ubuntu 7.10?
[07:57] <MoLE_> unagi, very differently.  It's a whole different code base.
[07:57] <Poka> bullgard1: find
[07:57] <nickrud> bullgard1: the only other one I know of is beagle
[07:57] <alan> i think emultor usually refers to hardware.
[07:57] <alan> but im just pulling that out my butt.
[07:58] <MoLE_> !emulator
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <bullgard1> nickrud: Thank you for your help.
[07:58] <master_obredar> what about this thing called crossover
[07:59] <Poka> MoLE_: alan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator
[07:59] <MoLE_> master_obredar, crossover is wine with some refinements.
[07:59] <kaushal> hi
[07:59] <alan> poka is just full of info tonight.
[07:59] <nickrud> master_obredar: a version of wine oriented towards running office apps
[07:59] <kaushal> hi again
[07:59] <master_obredar> ok
[07:59] <kaushal> I have onboard NIC Card
[07:59] <MoLE_> nickrud, they are shifting towards games as well now
[07:59] <master_obredar> wine wont let me open veoh exe.
[07:59] <alan> i personally think wine runs everything just fine
[07:59] <kaushal> where can i get information about NIC
[07:59] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here use XMing?
[08:00] <alan> unless you want to use office 2007 for some reason...
[08:00] <lordleemo> theTrav: gksudo gedit /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default
[08:00] <lordleemo> Look for:
[08:00] <lordleemo> BACKCOLOR="#DAB082"
[08:00] <alan> network interface cards?
[08:00] <Poka> alan: every now and then ;)
[08:00] <alan> :P
[08:00] <nickrud> lordleemo: thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
[08:00] <kaushal> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 10c0 (rev 02)
[08:00] <MoLE_> I usually find the latest wine runs apps better overall.
[08:00] <kaushal> I have installed e1000 module
[08:01] <MoLE_> compared to crossover or cedega
[08:01] <Omar_>  When I use the "ping" command how do I stop it??
[08:01] <neeto> I have my laptop connected through my desktop and I have NAT enabled with IPmasq. I can connect to my desktop from my laptop via ssh, but I can't connect to my laptop via my desktop. Is there a reason for this? Am I doing something wrong?
[08:01] <alan> they just got wine to run photoshop cs2 apparently
[08:01] <kaushal> it takes time to initiliaze
[08:01] <alan> i'll be happy if they can just get the ipod store to work.
[08:01] <solid_liq> shoe
[08:01] <twentyafterfour> omar_: type ctl+c
[08:01] <kaushal> hi Poka
[08:01] <MoLE_> alan, I wouldn't hold my breath b/c of the DRM libraries that itunes requires
[08:02] <theTrav> lordleemo, thanks, there was a default value, I guess it must have been using htat
[08:02] <master_obredar> brb
[08:02] <Poka> kaushal: hi
[08:02] <twentyafterfour> omar_: works for most commands
[08:02] <Omar_> oh ok, thanks
[08:02] <kaushal> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 10c0 (rev 02)
[08:02] <solid_liq> sock
[08:02] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know how to fix my new problem? I got my resolution to 1680x1050, but it doesn't fit it all on the same screen, and I have to scroll the desktop.
[08:02] <alan> MoLE_: Yeah, sucks.
[08:02] <lordleemo> twentyafterfour: your welcome
[08:02] <kaushal> where can i get driver for this
[08:02] <kaushal> Onboard NIC Card
[08:02] <solid_liq> hat
[08:02] <Poka> kaushal: install the driver and ./configure && make && make install; sudo insmod <that_driver>. what's so hard?
[08:02] <lordleemo> theTrav: oops your welcome
[08:02] <MoLE_> st3v3dnd, how did you go with changing the monitor settings?
[08:03] <solid_liq> shirt
[08:03] <st3v3dnd> MoLE_: I just tried using the .inf from the install disk. Going to restart X. Hopefully it goes as plannned.
[08:05] <kaushal> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 10c0 (rev 02)
[08:05] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda: I need to find drivers for the CD-ROM Drive. At this point I could skip this step and try to find them later, unless you guys have any leads?
[08:05] <kaushal> is there a driver for this NIC Card
[08:05] <zphinx> has xine been removed from the repos?
[08:06] <zphinx> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:06] <solid_liq> tie
[08:06] <kaushal> Its an Onboard NIC Card
[08:06] <alan> i installed this alpha like an idiot.. and now im regretting it.
[08:07] <alan> although the disk mount thing is kind of cool.
[08:07] <kaushal> any ideas
[08:09] <master_obredar> i'm new too linux and i'm really trying hard to learn
[08:09] <lindzeyn> I am having the hardest time getting ubuntu to boot.  I installed ubuntu to an external harddrive because I had given up on getting it to work with my RAID 0 configuration.  The installation went fine but when I go to the boot menu to choose "USB Device" it throws an error and says there is a missing operating system.
[08:09] <master_obredar> i'm a truck driver you see
[08:09] <alan> truck drivers belong on linux.
[08:09] <master_obredar> ty
[08:09] <Poka> yup!
[08:09] <devilslayer> hellowwwwwwwwwwwwww
[08:09] <master_obredar> lol
[08:10] <master_obredar> i hate windows
[08:10] <Pal_> hey
[08:10] <alan> can someone help me mount my usb hd?
[08:10] <master_obredar> helllo devilslayer
[08:10] <alan> it wont auto mount.
[08:10] <devilslayer> master
[08:10] <devilslayer> is it bot?
[08:10] <alan> and mtab says that /dev/sda1 is mounted at /, which cant be true.
[08:10] <devilslayer> auto?
[08:10] <alan> nien.
[08:10] <devilslayer> !autojoin
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autojoin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <master_obredar> any was terminal says that it could not load L
[08:11] <lukestarkiller> having issues connecting an Apple WIreless (bluetooth) keyboard, I've read the howto on ubuntu forums and followed all the instructions, but no go - It does say it's connected in Bluetooth Preferences but no input is detected
[08:11] <devilslayer> 아힝흥헿
[08:12] <devilslayer> 아힣흫헿
[08:12] <master_obredar> 'c:windows/system32/veoh.exe"module not found
[08:12] <alan> master_obredar you need to cd to the directory of the windows app you want to load
[08:12] <master_obredar> ??? how
[08:12] <alan> so wherever you saved it, in the terminal cd to that directory
[08:12] <alan> oh
[08:12] <alan> you used an installer?
[08:12] <alan> ok
[08:13] <devilslayer> alan
[08:13] <master_obredar> fisty fiesta
[08:13] <master_obredar> or the veoh
[08:13] <alan> veoh
[08:13] <master_obredar> that i downloaded from the net
[08:13] <alan> i gotcha
[08:13] <devilslayer> سدفلجهسف
[08:13] <master_obredar> @veoh.com
[08:13] <Poka> master_obredar: $ wine veoh.exe
[08:13] <alan> type in cd /home/'whateveryournameis'/.wine/
[08:14] <Poka> cd ~/.wine/
[08:14] <alan> that too.
[08:14] <Poka> alan: much shorter and no need for username ;)
[08:14] <alan> poka, well done sir.
[08:14] <lindzeyn> Has anyone here successfully installed ubuntu on a RAID0 system
[08:15] <Poka> kaushal: ok. have you tried so far?
[08:15] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda: Well it looks like the CD Rom driver thing was a bigger issue than I first thought. I am going to try installing from a USB and maybe hunt around for drivers tomorrow.
[08:15] <master_obredar> poka "says not owned by you"
[08:15] <alan> ?
[08:15] <A[D]minS> how i can restart iptables service ?
[08:16] <erawfish> ables is no service (daemon in unix speak)
[08:16] <Poka> master_obredar: so not "owned" by you. :)
[08:16] <master_obredar>  poka "says wine is not owned by you"
[08:16] <alan> master_obredar: what you are trying to do is get into a hidden folder in your home directory called .wine
[08:16] <A[D]minS> !iptables
[08:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:16] <erawfish> *iptables
[08:16] <nikhil87us> anybody uses ktorrent ?
[08:16] <alan> cd ~/.wine/
[08:16] <Odd-rationale> nikhil87us: me
[08:16] <alan> should take you directly to that folder
[08:16] <master_obredar> i use to have a wine emulator but now i don't
[08:17] <Ademan> nikhil87us: i used to, switched to deluge, way better
[08:17] <enduser> twentyafterfour and gilda: It is getting late here so I might do the USB thing tomorrow too. Thanks again for your help.
[08:17] <nikhil87us> how do you manage groups ?
[08:17] <Ademan> (well, in my opinion of course)
[08:17] <twentyafterfour> enduser: good luck
[08:17] <nikhil87us> ya ofcourse
[08:17] <roshan> I get a no input signal. go to power save after installing restricted drivers or envy for my nvidia 8600 gt
[08:17] <alan> master_obredar: in order for you to run any sort of windows application "naively" you need to run it with wine.
[08:17] <Ademan> honestly i don't know anything about groups, what do you mean exactly?
[08:17] <master_obredar> i'm trying too
[08:18] <Ademan> lex
[08:18] <nikhil87us> there is an option in left panel
[08:18] <alan> master_obredar: right. so what you need to do is get to the directory where you installed the executable.
[08:18] <nikhil87us> to creae custom groups
[08:18] <alan> master_obredar: though i dont even know if that will run in wine.
[08:18] <enduser> twentyafterfour: Thanks, I hope I see you here again some time.
[08:18] <nikhil87us> so I want to create with the tracker names
[08:19] <master_obredar> i followed the install instruction from wine and it says that its installed but how do i access it
[08:19] <alecw1> I have a dazzle 80 video capture device, and I'm trying to get it to work with ubuntu ('kino' specifically). I have it plugged in, the light is on, but I have no idea what the heck to do now. How do I get this to work?
[08:19] <alan> master_obredar: actually i just read it does.
[08:19] <master_obredar> and use it
[08:19] <alan> right
[08:19] <roshan> i wanna learn more about linux but at the same time i want my drivers to work correctly. everything i have tried so far has failed horribly. i was wondering if i should try another distribution and see if it works on it, would this be a good idea?
[08:19] <alan> cd ~/.wine/ in the terminal
[08:19] <alan> it will take you to that directory
[08:19] <alan> then type dir
[08:19] <alan> and it will probably show you a directory called c i think
[08:20] <alan> just like C:\
[08:20] <master_obredar> alan ok now what
[08:20] <alan> when you typed dir did you see 'c'?
[08:20] <master_obredar> dir
[08:21] <master_obredar> yes
[08:21] <alan> ok now cd c
[08:21] <alan> cd means change directory btw.
[08:21] <alan> dir lists whats in the current direcotry
[08:21] <master_obredar> cd c
[08:21] <master_obredar> says no such directory
[08:22] <alan> i thought when you typed in dir it showed you a 'c' directory?
[08:22] <alan> type dir and tell me what you see.
[08:23] <master_obredar> yes it did and it reads as follows"dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[08:23] <master_obredar> "
[08:23] <alan> oih
[08:23] <alan> cd drive_c
[08:23] <alan> sorry lol
[08:23] <alan> then type dir
[08:23] <master_obredar> ok now what
[08:24] <alan> and i think you will have a directory called program files or somthing
[08:24] <alan> its just like in windows
[08:24] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn
[08:24] <jscinoz> ack
[08:24] <master_obredar> Program\ Files  windows
[08:24] <jscinoz> stupid smalle keyboard
[08:24] <alan> type in cd Program\ Files
[08:24] <alan> and remember linux is case sensative.
[08:24] <alan> then type in dir
[08:25] <alan> and i think you will see a veoh directory
[08:25] <tarelerulz> Is there a  program that will tell you how fast your connection is running at ? T
[08:25] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:25] <master_obredar> no itt says    Common\ Files  Internet\ Explorer
[08:25] <alan> did you already install veoh from the internet?
[08:26] <alan> when you downloaded it i mean.
[08:26] <master_obredar> no only downloaded it
[08:26] <alan> oh, where did you save hte installation file to?
[08:26] <alan> is it on the desktop?
[08:26] <Poka> jscinoz: $ dbus-launch timevault-notifier
[08:26] <master_obredar> ubuntume home
[08:26] <jscinoz> poka thank you
[08:26] <alan> cool
[08:26] <master_obredar> yes
[08:26] <alan> type in cd /home/ubuntume
[08:26] <Poka> jscinoz: np
[08:26] <alan> whats the installation file called?
[08:26] <Kalamansi> alan : using desktop 7.10 ubuntu is advisable for server? of ubuntu CLI?
[08:27] <dez> I was reading someonething the other day saying people that use Ubuntu are 75% more likely to be flaming homosexuals
[08:27] <alan> kalamansi, not my area really, couldnt help you if i tried, sorry
[08:27] <alan> dez, thats mac users.
[08:27] <master_obredar> ok now what
[08:27] <jscinoz> nice dez, what m$/apple funded site said this?
[08:27] <nikhil87us> dez: I m from rest 25 %
[08:27] <alan> master_obredar: what is the installation file called?
[08:27] <jscinoz> and eeven then, its a free world, nothing wrong with that lol :P
[08:27] <dez> its science, you cant argue with it
[08:28] <jscinoz> poka, that didnt appear to work either >_< same thing happened
[08:28] <master_obredar> veohexe.
[08:28] <alan> type in wine veoh.exe
[08:28] <jscinoz> Science, it works bitches! :P
[08:28] <alan> science damn you jscinoz!
[08:28] <Poka> jscinoz: ask in #dbus
[08:28] <master_obredar> ubuntume@ubuntume:~$ wine veoh.exe
[08:28] <master_obredar> wine: /home/ubuntume/.wine is not owned by you
[08:28] <alan> ... uh?
[08:29] <alan> do you have multiple accounts or somthing?
[08:29] <lindzeyn> Has anyone here successfully installed ubuntu on a RAID0 system?
[08:29] <master_obredar> no
[08:29] <Poka> master_obredar: chown -R master_obredar ~/.wine
[08:29] <Owner> sup
[08:29] <alan> just type in wine and see what happens.
[08:29] <Owner> wine
[08:29] <jscinoz> alright thanks poka
[08:29] <lukestarkiller> actually it's sudo chown -R youraccount:youraccount ~/.wine
[08:29] <kornelius> good morning all
[08:30] <piNNoy> hello
[08:30] <fdsafdsafew> i really dont see how wine isnt illegal
[08:30] <Poka> fdsafdsafew: why should it be?
[08:30] <kornelius> any1 have some time to hel a total beginner?just a simple  question:)
[08:30] <alan> fdsafdsafew, probably because there isnt anything illegal about it.
[08:30] <lukestarkiller> reverse engineering isn't illegal
[08:30] <alan> nope.
[08:30] <master_obredar> it says operation not permitted
[08:31] <piNNoy> how do you turn off enter messages in irc ?
[08:31] <alan> master_obredar: i really dont know how to help you much furter.. that should just run
[08:31] <piNNoy> im on irssi
[08:31] <alan> further rather
[08:31] <fdsafdsafew> lol alan think carefully
[08:31] <Poka> master_obredar: $sudo chown -R master_obredar ~/.wine (if you are in /etc/sudoers)
[08:31] <jscinoz> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[08:32] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[08:32] <twentyafterfour> nice
[08:32] <Poka>  jscinoz seems so
[08:32] <fdsafdsafew> poka it turns windows into a runtime environment, but windows is nonfree
[08:32] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:32] <alan> fdsafdsafew: reverse engineering isnt illegal as far as i know.
[08:32] <fdsafdsafew> wine doesnt allow reverse engineered code
[08:32] <fdsafdsafew> though im sure its in there somewhere
[08:32] <Odd-rationale> jscinoz: For me, too
[08:32] <jscinoz> >_<
[08:32] <alan> fdsafdsafew: bah.
[08:33] <jscinoz> fdsafdsafew well if you're sure its in there go look :P thats how FOSS works :P
[08:33] <alan> fdsafdsafew: its all reverse engineered one way or another.
[08:33] <kornelius> hey guys. how can i connect to undernet?
[08:33] <vanchu> is it possible to remove firefox without screwing ubuntu ?
[08:33] <Mr__> how do i save an svg as png?
[08:33] <alan> kornelius /connect irc.undernet.net
[08:33] <alan> or somthing
[08:33] <fdsafdsafew> ok i take it back im not "sure" lol
[08:33] <kornelius> alan-thanks man!
[08:33] <Poka> vanchu: $ sudo dpkg -r firefox
[08:33] <alan> mr_ what software are you using?
[08:34] <Vip3r> Vanchu, maybe u could try 'sudo apt-get remove firefox'.. Should work
[08:34] <master_obredar> says no such file directory
[08:34] <alan> mr_ gimp should just allow you to open the file and save it as a png
[08:34] <piNNoy1> sup
[08:34] <master_obredar> and it wont let me install windows xp
[08:34] <vanchu> sorry I should reword it, if I remove firefox will it bugger up ubuntu ?
[08:35] <fdsafdsafew> alan documentation is not reverse engineering
[08:35] <Poka> vanchu: nope
[08:35] <Vip3r> Don't think so
[08:35] <vanchu> lol cool thanks
[08:35] <Poka> !lol | vanchu
[08:35] <ubotu> vanchu: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:35] <alan> fdsafdsafew, its mental reverse engineering
[08:35] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have this computer, that i *should* be able to run ubuntu on, but it doesnt agree with any live cds or similar, so i figured i could use my main computer that will correctly run a ubuntu boot disk to install to the hardrive i plan to use on the other computer[its a 6 gig wd] and then throw it in, then run some command as i recall reading about someone doing something similar on the forums, both computers run an celeron, this
[08:35] <master_obredar> is there a way to install xp as sacond os like it was
[08:35] <kornelius>  alan , just wrote /connect irc.undernet.net  but it says Unknown command.
[08:35] <bluefoxx> i was wondering however, what the command was
[08:36] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:36] <piNNoy1> b
[08:36] <Poka> kornelius: "/server irc.undernet.net"
[08:36] <alan> kornelius: try /server irc.undernet.net
[08:36] <Vip3r> master, there is but you should install Windoze FIRST
[08:36] <sean> My God how can anyone read everything
[08:36] <kornelius> thanks to all
[08:36] <fdsafdsafew> as opposed to physical alan
[08:36] <alan> fdsafdsafew, or magical
[08:36] <Poka> jscinoz: did you ask in #dbus?
[08:36] <jscinoz> sean, most people use irc clients that highlight messages with their names in it, makes ite easy to tell when something needs attention
[08:37] <jscinoz> poka yes, nor esponse and there arent too many people there so it may be a while until someone responds
[08:37] <piNNoy1> sss
[08:37] <piNNoy1> \
[08:37] <alan> i can read everything, but my ADD doesnt help.
[08:37] <biswa> bluefoxx: Try dpkg --configure -a
[08:38] <sean> ok thanks ?
[08:38] <Mr__> how do i turn a svg into a png
[08:38] <bluefoxx> biswa: ok, thank you, it should work since they are the same archeture, just different speeds right?
[08:38] <lukestarkiller> having issues connecting an Apple WIreless (bluetooth) keyboard, I've read the howto on ubuntu forums and followed all the instructions, but no go - It does say it's connected in Bluetooth Preferences but no input is detected - anyone have a solution?
[08:38] <master_obredar> how can i add my xp back on as 2nd os  i have to partition i know that but how to do it
[08:38] <alan> mr__ open it in the gimp and save it as a .png
[08:39] <Mr__> won't open in gimp
[08:39] <alan> master_obredar google ubuntu wiki and im sure it will explain
[08:39] <Mr__> alan: won't open in gimp
[08:39] <shadow__> master_obredar, if you install xp after linux you must boot from livecd and chroot in your / and reinstall grub\lilo. you mbr will rewrite
[08:39] <alan> mr__ an svg you said?
[08:39] <Vip3r> Master, the prob is that Windows will overwrite your MBR and then you will not be able to boot into Linux
[08:39] <sean> Ahhhh your all Linux Gurus awsome ,     now i know where to ask the questions
[08:39] <Mr__> alan: yea
[08:39] <alan> mr__ try installing somthing called inkscape
[08:39] <Vip3r> shadow, u beat me to it ;0)
[08:40] <master_obredar> when i try it says that the partition isnt large enough
[08:40] <alan> mr__ then you can load it an export it to a png
[08:40] <Poka> Mr__: $ sudo apt-get install inkscape; open & save with it.
[08:40] <Kalamansi> sean where to ask?
[08:40] <Vip3r> master, can u give me your h/w config
[08:40] <alan> Poka is trying to steal my thunder.
[08:40] <master_obredar> ???
[08:40] <master_obredar> my what
[08:40] <Poka> alan: heh
[08:40] <Vip3r> what is the size of your hard disk
[08:40] <sean> ask you all as you all know more than me
[08:40] <master_obredar> 40 gig
[08:40] <sinthetek> anyone know offhand how to get modssl installed in apache2?
[08:41] <alan> im out, later everyone
[08:41] <Vip3r> and how big is your windows partition
[08:41] <v135tgewrvg> ararar
[08:41] <v135tgewrvg> i like pie
[08:41] <master_obredar> dunno
[08:41] <Vip3r> Oops
[08:41] <bluefoxx> well, hopefully i can get a second box up and running ubuntu, my onlyu other comp at the moment is a laptop that only can run puppy[want ubuntu on it, not enough hardisk space]
[08:41] <newy11> hey all. whats a good program to download files of the net. eg like limewire but for linux
[08:41] <sinthetek> i have openssl installed and am not seeing a modssl/libapache-ssl package anywhere
[08:41] <Vip3r> re u in linux?
[08:41] <jscinoz> so... timevault.
[08:41] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:41] <sinthetek> seems none of these docs i'm looking at for gutsy modssl installation are valid
[08:41] <sean> id just be happy if i could use a web cam with Pigeon chat
[08:42] <piNNoy1> v
[08:42] <piNNoy1> l
[08:42] <fdsafdsafew> howcome winamp in wine has an eq thats like 10 times better than any native linux eq
[08:42] <fdsafdsafew> its obviously emulating something linux has
[08:42] <fdsafdsafew> so its like, this makes no sense
[08:42] <Poka> sinthetek: $ apt-cache search modssl;
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> ...
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> .
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> .
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> .
[08:42] <master_obredar> how do i find out the size of the partition
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> .
[08:42] <v135tgewrvg> .
[08:42] <FloodBot1> v135tgewrvg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <_Leppy> anyone alive?
[08:43] <master_obredar> i am i think
[08:43] <A[D]minS> when i do  iptables -A OUTPUT -j LOG
[08:43] <A[D]minS> where it will log?
[08:43] <Vip3r> Are u in linux ?
[08:43] <Vip3r> Open a terminal window
[08:43] <master_obredar> whom me
[08:43] <Vip3r> Yep, master
[08:43] <master_obredar> ok
[08:43] <master_obredar> open
[08:44] <Vip3r> type 'sudo mount' and press enter
[08:44] <_Leppy> once your done helping master out, I'm giong to need some help as well.
[08:44] <Vip3r> Sure
[08:44] <v135tgewrvg> http://www.gamingphoenix.com/
[08:44] <v135tgewrvg> http://www.gamingphoenix.com/
[08:44] <v135tgewrvg> http://www.gamingphoenix.com/
[08:44] <v135tgewrvg> http://www.gamingphoenix.com/
[08:44] <master_obredar> ok
[08:44] <v135tgewrvg> http://www.gamingphoenix.com/
[08:44] <FloodBot1> v135tgewrvg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <Vip3r> What's it say ?
[08:44] <master_obredar> beats me
[08:45] <A[D]minS> anyone can advise please  when i do  iptables -A OUTPUT -j LOG  , where it will log ?
[08:45] <Vip3r> What si the output on the screen ?
[08:45] <sean> if there was classes to learn how to do stuff on Linux machines imagine the take up rate of it.
[08:45] <master_obredar> dont see si
[08:45] <_Leppy> he typod master
[08:45] <sean> then for some i guess it wouldnt be cool
[08:46] <_Leppy> *is*
[08:46] <lukestarkiller> There are classes
[08:46] <_Leppy> sean, once you get over the learning curve, it's all pretty much the same
[08:46] <lukestarkiller> Edubuntu is made for that reason
[08:46] <Vip3r> Does it say something like '/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)' ??
[08:46] <sean> Nothing available in Northern Territory, Australia
[08:46] <master_obredar> hde 3
[08:46] <_Leppy> lol
[08:46] <Vip3r> That's it ???
[08:46] <deadlyallance649> sorry
[08:47] <master_obredar> type ext3
[08:47] <_Leppy> dude if it's available in Southern America, there's bound to be something
[08:47] <deadlyallance649> do you want the proof
[08:47] <jscinoz> timevault not working makes me sad :(
[08:47] <sean> hahaha  i bet there is
[08:47] <_Leppy> then again, I learned on my own
[08:47] <Vip3r> okie, type 'sudo fdisk -l' , press enter and tell me the output
[08:47] <_Leppy> got sick of blista and windows
[08:48] <sean> haha yea
[08:48] <master_obredar> ok
[08:48] <master_obredar> vip3r
[08:48] <sean> i cant believe how good certain things work,   Net Speed and P2P and the freebees
[08:48] <_Leppy> in fact most computers I sell at my shop come preinstalled with a prog called Wubi which installs Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Studio on an ntfs partition
[08:49] <Vip3r> Master, please tell me the lines with 'Disk /dev/sd.......'
[08:49] <_Leppy> lol dude network speeds are insanely faster. MS tends to rate limit you and lets other isps limit you through ms protacols
[08:49] <deadlyallance649> so my 45 yearold brother is computer incompadent and today he showes me the new game he plays and sayes to me "they have a linux version ..and i am learning to use gimp so i can script my textures for building my house
[08:50] <master_obredar> start 1  end 9728  blocks 78140128+ id c system w95 fat32  (lba)
[08:50] <_Leppy> 0_o
[08:50] <sean> thats a new concept, sales of machines with Ubuntu.      what about drivers for cameras and printers and other stuff.    The basic Windows user wouldnt have any idea.  i know its a mission for me
[08:50] <Vip3r> Yo! But what about the FIRST line of the output?
[08:50] <master_obredar> Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
[08:50] <master_obredar> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4864 cylinders
[08:50] <master_obredar> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:51] <_Leppy> usually if the customer says he has certain parts and accessories, I configure it all to be plug and pray
[08:51] <Vip3r> YEAH !! that's what I wanted. Any other similar line ?
[08:51] <master_obredar> /dev/hda1   *           1          31      248976    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:51] <master_obredar> /dev/hda2              32        1024     7976272+   5  Extended
[08:51] <master_obredar> /dev/hda3            2386        4864    19912567+  83  Linux
[08:51] <master_obredar> /dev/hda5              32        1024     7976241   8e  Linux LVM
[08:51] <sean> and im a support manager for a comms company.  mind you ive been Microsofted
[08:51] <_Leppy> lol so have I my friend...
[08:52] <Vip3r> How come u have a LVM volume ??
[08:52] <master_obredar> hey my external has 80 gig
[08:52] <_Leppy> mcse, net+, a+, degree in graphic design on mac and pc, and a degree in psych
[08:52] <master_obredar> i dunno
[08:52] <sean> haha
[08:52] <Vip3r> You got some data on /dev/sda5 ?
[08:52] <master_obredar> is it possible to load xp on it
[08:52] <_Leppy> so trust me, I've been microshafted, softed and forced to walk away after blister came out
[08:52] <Vip3r> sorry, hda5?
[08:53] <sean> yea i can understand this
[08:53] <_Leppy> lol vip3r don't wanna see my list of volumes
[08:53] <Vip3r> should be possible but your Windows partition (/dev/hda1) seems to be too small
[08:53] <fdsafdsafew> what is the lowest frequency response perceivable by the human ear?
[08:54] <_Leppy> google or ask.com
[08:54] <master_obredar> thats what it says but thats the info on my laptop
[08:54] <sinthetek> 'response'?
[08:54] <_Leppy> might help you out there fdsa
[08:54] <fdsafdsafew> yeah, as in speaker output
[08:54] <master_obredar> heres the info from my ext
[08:54] <fdsafdsafew> (im using headphones)
[08:54] <master_obredar> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[08:54] <master_obredar> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[08:54] <master_obredar> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:54] <Vip3r> If you don't have very important data, i'll recommend your re-partition the whole thing and do it afreash
[08:55] <master_obredar> my laptop
[08:55] <fdsafdsafew> it can play 6hz frequencies, but i doubt i could hear it
[08:55] <master_obredar> i keep bleeping it up
[08:55] <sean> recently i saw a 2 way satellite receiver configured for a school in a remote part of Australia,    the Linux machine basically controlled everything and the Micro the other was a slave off it.   All i could think was this has to be a problem for Microsoft in the future
[08:55] <sean> so that prompted me to know more
[08:56] <fdsafdsafew> lol sean thats awesome
[08:56] <master_obredar> brb restr brak
[08:56] <fdsafdsafew> where there is lack of money there is time to learn
[08:56] <stf_> Hi. I managed to get my own usplash working my first ubuntu pc, but not on the second one. Both have usplash installed, both have /usr/lib/usplash.so added to the alternatives system, both have had "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" and "sudo update-initramfs -u" executed, they have identical Ubuntu versions and GRUB configs. What could I have forgotten to do on the second one?
[08:56] <stf_> (err, I mean both have /usr/lib/usplash/mytheme.so)
[08:57] <Vip3r> Master, the recommended method is to repartition the whole she-bang, make one partition of about 15-20 G and install Windows XP on it. Then boot in with Linux, and install it on te remaining space
[08:57] <_Leppy> sean, usually if you have a two way receptor, the nix side is controlling the ip tables and directions while the ms side is taking care of domain names and administration rights
[08:57] <India> http://forceindiaf1.freeblog.hu/
[08:57] <sean> oh !
[08:58] <Vip3r> The grub loader will recognize the Windows and cater for it while making the boot menu
[08:58] <_Leppy> it's how they are doing the laptop for each child program, they implimented a full blown mesh network with one complete sat system setup
[08:58] <tarelerulz> How do I install flash player for  Ubuntu's 64 bit version ?
[08:58] <sean> mmmm i see
[08:59] <India> http://forceindiaf1.freeblog.hu/
[08:59] <_Leppy> in each village allowing for infrastructure without infrastructure. it's almost like virtualization
[08:59] <sean> i guess i really need to come up to speed if i expect to keep a job in the future......????
[08:59] <_Leppy> tarele, try going to www.getautomatix.com
[08:59] <master_obredar> ok im back the grub says that windows xp is there but it wont let me into it
[08:59] <_Leppy> get that app and it will automatically install everything you need and then some
[08:59] <dgjones> !automatix
[08:59] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[09:00] <Vip3r> Won't let you into it ? Meaning ?
[09:00] <_Leppy> 0_o
[09:00] <kornelius> hej guys i really hate to bug u again but still cant conn. to undernet? tried both things "/server irc.undernet.net"   but just says  unknown command.is there a settings i should anaible, or some other stuff.just started using ubuntu and its kinda hard finding a way around:)
[09:00] <elkbuntu> _Leppy, it also does stuff that breaks stuff pretty badly
[09:00] <_Leppy> well it's a newbler way of doing things.
[09:00] <master_obredar> it reboots only lets me into ubuntu
[09:00] <_Leppy> lol
[09:00] <_Leppy> ok ok so what's similar that won't make everything fubar
[09:01] <Vip3r> Then what you will have to do is re-install windows xp, boot into the machine with a live cd and restore grub
[09:01] <master_obredar> it wont let me says not big enough partition
[09:02] <master_obredar> if i could some how remove a few of the partitions it will let me load winxp
[09:02] <Kalamansi> kornelius why join undernet when you are here now?
[09:02] <Vip3r> Shite! In that case, Master, buddy, ther IS no alternative. Back up your important stuff and wipe it out
[09:02] <Vip3r> You can't remove partitions without knowng what is in them
[09:03] <kornelius> Kalamansi:  couse i have couple of friends who can help me with Ubuntu problems:) i hate bugging ppl here with lame questiones:)
[09:03] <Kalamansi> hello how to work with yahoo messenger with voice and webcam? (ubuntu 7.10 desktop)
[09:03] <master_obredar> no prob only let me disconnecy external hd
[09:03] <JusticeZero> How do I switch the desktop to Metacity instead of Compiz?
[09:03] <master_obredar> nothing is on here any ways not really
[09:04] <tarelerulz> Ubuntu says it has installer for Flash player ,but how do you get it to download and install flash ?
[09:04] <Vip3r> master, what ya can do is to first boot in with your Linux distro (AFTER backing up!!) and remove all the partitions
[09:04] <master_obredar> it comes with ie4
[09:04] <Kalamansi> !yahoo messenger
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo messenger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <Kalamansi> !yahoo messenger with voice
[09:04] <fdsafdsafew> !yahoo
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <apathetic-> how come i cannot choose misc-fixed 12 as system font in feisty?
[09:05] <Vip3r> tarelerulz, buddy, there is this thing in Ubuntu called synaptic. Use it
[09:05] <master_obredar> but every time i do it i fubar the ubuntu  loading
[09:05] <fdsafdsafew> just install gyachE
[09:05] <_Leppy> lol
[09:05] <JusticeZero> !metacity
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <_Leppy> I love this.. there's always something someone has a problem with that is getting answers for that are answering my issues at the same time.
[09:05] <fdsafdsafew> the voice in gyachE has issues with 64bit
[09:06] <Vip3r> Master, in this case you will have to wipe the whole thing off and start absolutely fresh
[09:06] <fdsafdsafew> !ubuntu
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:06] <stf_> Guys, I'm trying to get usplash working on an Ubuntu pc. I've installed usplash and "mytheme", added /usr/lib/usplash/mytheme.so to the alternatives system, updated the initramfs, set vga=791. Yet, it doesn't show the splash on boot (it does on shutdown and when manually invoked). About the same sequence of steps made usplash work for me on another ubuntu pc with the same version, though. Could anyone help?
[09:06] <master_obredar> 'is there anyway to remove a few partition and then put winxp on
[09:06] <Vip3r> the best I have found till date is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:06] <JusticeZero> How do I switch to Metacity instead of Compiz?
[09:07] <fdsafdsafew> dont use compiz
[09:07] <fdsafdsafew> or metacity --replace
[09:07] <Vip3r> master, I won't recommend since your windows partition is at one end of the disk and the partitions you can remove are at the other
[09:08] <JusticeZero> Well how do I use anything other than Compiz? It is standard in a Gutsy install.
[09:08] <master_obredar> man ill just screw it up again cause i dont know what im doing
[09:08] <fdsafdsafew> if you open up terminal and type metacity --replace
[09:08] <_Leppy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[09:08] <_Leppy> justice - go there
[09:08] <fdsafdsafew> it will disable compiz fusion
[09:08] <Vip3r> it's better to wipe the whole thing and do it right the second time round. It's  save you a whole bunch of grief
[09:08] <master_obredar> i really dont want windows
[09:08] <JusticeZero> OK, done.
[09:08] <Vip3r> Bingo! Then you have a better way
[09:09] <master_obredar> i just want to be able to use veoh player for my movies
[09:09] <kornelius> need a program for RAR files ?
[09:09] <_Leppy> lol
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> i dont know why people have issues with compiz and things
[09:09] <_Leppy> lol I always do
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> absolutely nothing fails when im running compiz
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> even 3d games
[09:09] <Vip3r> Remove ALL the partitons, boot up from Linux and let it auto-partition the disk
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> and glxgears
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> and videos, hd even
[09:09] <_Leppy> I lose the tops of everything
[09:09] <fdsafdsafew> everything works flawlessly
[09:09] <_Leppy> anyway
[09:09] <_Leppy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:09] <_Leppy>  kubuntu-docs
[09:09] <_Leppy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:09] <_Leppy> leppy@leppy-desktop:~$
[09:09] <FloodBot1> _Leppy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <_Leppy> grrr
[09:10] <master_obredar> my linux works fine just cant use the wine
[09:10] <_Leppy> can anyone help me with that?
[09:10] <Vip3r> Leppy, u have a dependency prob. Try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:10] <fdsafdsafew> man it removed the ban, for a second i thought the flood bot was evil lol
[09:10] <master_obredar> or do i need to upgrade it
[09:10] <_Leppy> ok ty vip3r
[09:10] <Vip3r> master just type 'wine -v
[09:10] <_Leppy> lemme try that
[09:11] <master_obredar> says wine not owned by me
[09:11] <kornelius> what kind a program can i use to unrar rar files?
[09:11] <fdsafdsafew> you should add the wine repository to get the latest version
[09:11] <_Leppy> grr
[09:11] <fdsafdsafew> dont know why ubuntu wont put the official wine repo in sources
[09:11] <_Leppy> brb
[09:11] <Vip3r> if this don't work, then try 'sudo apt-get remove wine' and then re-install AFTER a reboot
[09:11] <dgjones> !rar > kornelius,  (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[09:12] <tankdriver> h
[09:12] <fdsafdsafew> unrar-nonfree
[09:13] <master_obredar> ok its removeing it
[09:13] <fdsafdsafew> why doesnt ubuntu have wines official repository in sources. why wait until someone compiles it and submits it when wine always has the latest in its official repository
[09:13] <master_obredar> ok its done
[09:13] <Vip3r> Fine, let it complete, then reboot and re-install with 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[09:14] <master_obredar> ok waiting for it to finish
[09:14] <Pal_> bye
[09:15] <master_obredar> ok its finished
[09:15] <Vip3r> Installed ?
[09:15] <tarelerulz> Synaptic says it has plugin that will download and install  flash player  ,but when I go to you tube it  tells me to get the newest flash player?   any help
[09:15] <master_obredar> yup
[09:15] <master_obredar> says it is any ways
[09:15] <Vip3r> type 'wine -v'
[09:15] <dgjones> !flashissues | tarelerulz
[09:15] <ubotu> tarelerulz: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.
[09:15] <master_obredar> ubuntume@ubuntume:~$ wine -v
[09:15] <master_obredar> wine: /home/ubuntume/.wine is not owned by you
[09:16] <Vip3r> Okay. Now who are you logged in as ? (I mean your username)
[09:16] <master_obredar> ubuntume
[09:16] <jpatrick> Vip3r: "ubuntume@ubuntume:~$"
[09:16] <tarelerulz> dgjones ,dose the | in what you said have any meaning ? just asking
[09:17] <Vip3r> okay.. go to the directory containing wine (/home/ubuntume/.wine)
[09:17] <dgjones> tarelerulz, it lets ubotu know which is the factoid request and then which user to highlight with it, the "|" is the delimiter between the factiod and the username
[09:17] <master_obredar> ???
[09:17] <Vip3r> patric, needed to confoirm
[09:18] <tarelerulz> ubotu , Do I need just to compile flash player ?  what about 64 bit ?  i have 64 bit Ubuntu. I think it has 32 bit lib too.  Ok what would you do ?
[09:18] <_Leppy> heh
[09:18] <_Leppy> didn't work
[09:18] <Vip3r> master  type 'cd /home/ubuntume/.wine) and enter
[09:18] <master_obredar> ok
[09:18] <tarelerulz> Thanks DGJones , I did not know that.
[09:19] <dgjones> tarelerulz, uboto is a bot, it can't answer something like that, just ask in the channel, if somebody knows and is around, they might be able to help
[09:19] <_Leppy> Errors were encountered while processing: kubuntu-docs E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:19] <_Leppy> can anyone help me with this?
[09:19] <master_obredar> ok vip3r
[09:19] <jpatrick> !bot > tarelerulz (see pm from ubotu)
[09:20] <Vip3r> now type 'ls -la' and enter
[09:20] <tarelerulz> Dgjones ,  What would you do if you wanted flash player and you had 64 bit Ubuntu?
[09:20] <master_obredar> ok
[09:20] <Vip3r> tarel, just hang on  aminute. I've got this 64-bit Ubuntu and i'll just let you know
[09:20] <Assassin5> I'm looking for a program that I can use to plug into a PA system and then use another machine to stream audio to it. Any suggestions?
[09:21] <master_obredar> brb
[09:21] <dgjones> !flash64 | tarelerulz, i haven't got 64 bit Ubuntu, so i've never tried, but this link may help
[09:21] <ubotu> tarelerulz, i haven't got 64 bit Ubuntu, so i've never tried, but this link may help: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:22] <master_obredar> ok i'm back
[09:23] <Vip3r> master did you do 'sudo apt-get install wine' or did you use some other command
[09:23] <Vip3r> I hope you did not use a root terminal to install it
[09:24] <master_obredar> says that it is the newest version
[09:24] <master_obredar> i used the terminal from applications
[09:24] <neko_> hi people
[09:25] <neko_> is  it  to upgrade to the security updated kernel ?
[09:25] <Vip3r> And you gave the command usinf 'sudo' ?
[09:25] <Vip3r> I'm asking coz I just installed it on my machine and it ran clean as a whistle
[09:25] <neko_> will it goes wooooo wooooooo
[09:25] <tarelerulz> is there a 64 bit flast at all? just ask
[09:26] <neko_> i mean is it safe ?
[09:26] <master_obredar> i did like you said
[09:26] <Vip3r> Funny! It seems to work just fine on mine
[09:26] <central> hello guys please how to burn a APE cd image ?
[09:27] <Hypermagic2> hello, I am having a problem getting ubuntu to boot after I installed it on my Compaq Presario. I found out this is a problem with Presarios in general, and I found the next step in the solution: add "linux acpi=off maxcpus=0" to my grub menu.lst
[09:27] <wil22> hi... I just installed ubuntu from a cd (version 5.10) but I want to upgrade to the latests.. I have no cd rw drive here and was wondering whats the fastest way as update manager is saying my release is to old?
[09:27] <master_obredar> vip3r--Reading package lists... Done
[09:27] <master_obredar> Building dependency tree
[09:27] <master_obredar> Reading state information... Done
[09:27] <master_obredar> wine is already the newest version.
[09:27] <master_obredar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 185 not upgr
[09:27] <FloodBot1> master_obredar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:27] <master_obredar> ok now what
[09:27] <master_obredar> what the
[09:28] <jpatrick> !paste > master_obredar
[09:28] <_Leppy> lol
[09:28] <dgjones> master_obredar, floodbot is kicking you from the channel because you pasted into the channel
[09:28] <neeto> How would I make the apache server that's running on 127.0.1.1 availiable to the whole network?
[09:28] <master_obredar> in terminal
[09:28] <master_obredar> oh sorry
[09:28] <Hypermagic2> how can i edit the grub bootloader without first booting into ubuntu?
[09:29] <jpatrick> master_obredar: actually he just muted you for a few seconds to control the flood
[09:29] <neeto> Hypermagic2: when you start your computer, you shouldn't have to boot anything. Grub usually loads first, no?
[09:29] <Hypermagic2> yes
[09:29] <Hypermagic2> it does
[09:29] <biswa> Hypermagic2: Press 'e' with the highlight on the entry you want to edit.
[09:29] <Hypermagic2> I'm a n00b so pardon my ignorance
[09:29] <master_obredar> well i'm sorry i'm new at this
[09:29] <neeto> Hypermagic2: no worries mate
[09:30] <neeto> How would I make the apache server that's running on 127.0.1.1 availiable to the whole network?
[09:30] <ootput> hello, are any of you using openvpn on your home wireless network? I've setup the server correctly, and the same with client (I think - the client seems to connect to the server okay)
[09:30] <central> please how to burn a APE cdimage ?
[09:30] <Hypermagic2> how do i run this from grub: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:30] <ootput> but I can't seem to bridge the wireless nic with the tap device
[09:30] <wil22> hi... I just installed ubuntu from a cd (version 5.10) but I want to upgrade to the latests.. I have no cd rw drive here and was wondering whats the fastest way as update manager is saying my release is to old?
[09:30] <jpatrick> !repeat > central (see pm from ubotu)
[09:30] <Hypermagic2> it lets me edit command lines, not execute them
[09:30] <central> ok ths
[09:31] <master_obredar> ok vip3r what do i do now
[09:31] <neeto> Hypermagic2: first of all, you don't want to be using gksudo for anything that's not graphical. you should be using simply sudo for that.
[09:31] <neeto> Hypermagic2: also, gedit is graphical, so you probably want to use nano instead
[09:31] <biswa> Hypermagic2: If you want to commit your changes, you have to boot into the system... to execute with your changes... press 'b' after making your changes.
[09:31] <Hypermagic2> i cannot
[09:31] <Hypermagic2> that's the problem
[09:32] <Hypermagic2> when i attempt to boot it gives me this:  Int 14: CR2 cf800000 err 00000000 EIP c020c384 CS 00000060 flags 00010007
[09:32] <Hypermagic2> Stack: c00f7d50 c03f129b c0371d8c 00000002 c00f7d59 000f7d50 00000000 00000000
[09:32] <Hypermagic2> one of the posited solutions is to edit menu.lst
[09:33] <wil22> whats the command to upgrade ubuntu (5.10) to the latest version? :(
[09:33] <Hypermagic2> so that "linux acpi=off"
[09:33] <biswa> Hypermagic2: You'll have a 'recovery mode' entry in your default grub list... does booting from there also give the same error?
[09:33] <master_obredar> oh well
[09:33] <Hypermagic2> i just installed it a few mins ago, give me a moment to try that option
[09:33] <biswa> Hypermagic2: Okay.
[09:34] <Hypermagic2> I do not have recovery mode
[09:34] <bz0b> ok someone please help i have been trying to figure out how to mount my ipod via ipod-convenience for the past three hours when i attempt to mount i get an error saying "root@192.168.1.3:/var/root/Media: No such file or directory"
[09:34] <Hypermagic2> even in the advanced menu
[09:35] <Hypermagic2> i have not yet successfully booted into it
[09:35] <master_obredar> i cant seem to open anything with wine cause it says that i dont own it
[09:36] <Hypermagic2> it gave me the same error upon installation, however adding that command line allowed it to boot from the live cd
[09:36] <Hypermagic2> and it let me run the install
[09:36] <bz0b> ok someone please help i have been trying to figure out how to mount my ipod via ipod-convenience for the past three hours when i attempt to mount i get an error saying "root@192.168.1.3:/var/root/Media: No such file or directory"
[09:36] <Hypermagic2> now it won't let me into the OS to edit menu.lst to put the same argument in grub
[09:36] <neilwardle2002> hi
[09:37] <Smegzor> I'm thinking of replacing grub with GFX Grub.  I am using Ubuntu 64.  Does it work with 64bit or is grub unaffected by the OS being 32bit or 64bit?
[09:37] <wil22> how do I upgrade from breezy badger to Feisty Fawn ? :(
[09:37] <jpatrick> !upgrade > wil22
[09:38] <eternalist> I'm having some sound problems it seems like my sound just stoped owrking
[09:38] <biswa> Hypermagic2: That is a kernel parameter... to pass that using grub... Press 'e' twice on your Ubuntu entry in the grub list... after that, append 'apci=off' to the line you'll be currently editing... press 'Esc' and then 'b'...
[09:38] <eternalist> it was working before and it just broke all of a sudden
[09:38] <tarelerulz> Well, the nonfree plugin/install for flash been down for long?
[09:38] <master_obredar> oh well thank anyways
[09:38] <eternalist> i dont know what it was
[09:38] <jpatrick> tarelerulz: yep
[09:39] <Hypermagic2> thank you. i will try that.
[09:39] <neilwardle2002> is it worth upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 ubuntu 64bit
[09:39] <fdsafdsafew> is it ok if i ask a question? my question is, is it ok to ask a question?
[09:39] <biswa> Hypermagic2: Welcome.
[09:39] <fdsafdsafew> i personally always keep up to date
[09:39] <eternalist> hey can someone help me in diagnosing the problem with my sound
[09:40] <fdsafdsafew> you never know when some error you get is because you didnt update
[09:40] <master_obredar> how does one own wine
[09:40] <fdsafdsafew> apt-get install wine
[09:40] <jpatrick> !sound > eternalist
[09:40] <fdsafdsafew> that lets you own it pretty well
[09:40] <neilwardle2002> just I upgraded and my wireless seems to have issues! :(
[09:40] <tarelerulz> I read the how to for 64bit firefox and install flash and it says the install/plug is broke ,but don't say anything and a the rest is for before 7.10 . I am lost
[09:40] <wil22> dont hate me for saying this... I know in windows, I always do fresh installs as upgrades go crap... I was wondering if it is recommended to upgrade or do fresh installs in ubuntu?
[09:40] <eternalist> god damnn
[09:40] <rredd4> !language
[09:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:40] <brizben> can some one help me set up a web cam? I have done lsusb and gotten -> 0c45:60bo Microdia
[09:40] <master_obredar> did that but when i try to use it it says that i dont own it
[09:40] <central> sorry but i can not find ubotu pm ????? do there is an aplication to burn APE image ?
[09:41] <fdsafdsafew> ewww, whenever i upgrade my wireless works better
[09:41] <biswa> wil22: I'll say for distribution upgrades, go for fresh installs, for software updates, you can trust apt.
[09:41] <Hypermagic2> same error
[09:42] <fdsafdsafew> hmm, webcams are a pain, plane and simple, you gotta find out what driver works with it, then find an app that will call on that driver
[09:42] <wil22> thanks
[09:42] <neilwardle2002> seems that the wireless pci card has IRQ error of some kind and if I force it to activate it just says something about timer expired
[09:42] <dgjones> wil22, from more recent versions, upgrades work fine, but from Breezy etc, the older and now unsupported versions, a fresh install would be better
[09:42] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, so how do I find out what driver works with it?
[09:42] <fdsafdsafew> google
[09:43] <rredd4> vip3r  can master chmod wine so that he can own it?
[09:43] <master_obredar> for all your help    www.watch-movies.net    watch free movies
[09:43] <fdsafdsafew> it might be easier to just try some random applications
[09:43] <wil22> also, I am having problems... I am reading the upgrade instructions for 5.10 - 6.06, and it says to run the update manager... but every time I do it, it just says I have a unsuported os and I need to upgrade :(
[09:43] <umair> hello al can i please ask a question
[09:43] <fdsafdsafew> what are you trying to do with the webcam?
[09:43] <wil22> I know it is my fault for using a old cd, but it is annoying
[09:43] <dgjones> !ask | umair
[09:43] <ubotu> umair: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:43] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, I am trying to set up ekiga I says /dev/video0 not found?
[09:44] <master_obredar> tc all
[09:44] <vanchu> cheers
[09:44] <umair> hey people i am using a cdma phone to connect to the internet i figured out how to use it as a modem on linux but now i cant put in the extra initialization commands that are needed to connect to my isp through it
[09:44] <Leechzilla> brizben: Does /dev/video0 exist?
[09:44] <fdsafdsafew> hmm, it should at least find it. maybe its not detected by the kernel
[09:44] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, no video1 exists
[09:44] <Hypermagic2> got it to load, thank you
[09:44] <stf_> Hey, I installed the latest usplash on Dapper, installed a working theme for it, installed/selected it as an alternative and updated the initramfs. But usplash then only works on shutdown and manual invocation. Not on boot. Any hints?
[09:44] <umair> where do i put int he extra initialization commands ??? for internet connection in ppp0 or whatever comes default with ubuntu called network
[09:44] <fdsafdsafew> what happens when you set it to /dev/video1
[09:45] <vanchu> ubuntu jsut showed me that I need to update
[09:45] <vanchu> and wine was in the list
[09:45] <vanchu> lol
[09:45] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, It doenst find video1 so I cannot change it in the setup stage shoudl I reboot and start again?
[09:45] <vanchu> its doing it right now
[09:45] <Leechzilla> brizben: apt-get install cheese. Check your webcam using that
[09:45] <Leechzilla> I got mine working
[09:46] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, ok back in a minute
[09:46] <vanchu> its updating to 9.54
[09:46] <umair> hello please need help here
[09:46] <vanchu> hello
[09:46] <tarelerulz> I try to play a jave game .  something like the web version of book worm and it said it install jave for the game demo ,but when the page reload  it just showed a gray box  where the game should be ? I have 64bit ubuntu.  Is that broken to or did I do something wrong
[09:46] <stf_> !ask | umair
[09:46] <ubotu> umair: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:46] <fdsafdsafew> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:46] <fdsafdsafew> for the key issue
[09:46] <brizben> fdsafdsafew,  where is cheese package?
[09:47] <stf_> in the fridge?
[09:47] <fdsafdsafew> in the repository
[09:47] <fdsafdsafew> cheese works with my webcam
[09:47] <fdsafdsafew> apt-get install cheese
[09:47] <fdsafdsafew> that application is great
[09:47] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, package not found ...
[09:47] <neilwardle2002> I have a problem, it is all to do with upgrading ubuntu 7.04 64bit to 7.20 64bit, and there only seems to be one problem and that is the Wireless PCI card does not want to function. I have tried to manually configure to network settings and also iwconfig up eth1 but all I get is a timer expired and wireless still does not work. has anyone got any other ideas as it obviously has something else wrong. although the wireless card wor
[09:47] <umair> i have a cdma phone that i used to connect to muy isp on windows im new to linux .. i have figured out how to use the phone as a modem but now i can figure out where to put in the extra initializing commands in linux because my isp wont conect with them "ac+crm = 1"
[09:47] <eternalist> still doesnt work
[09:48] <eternalist> im at a loss o what to do
[09:48] <umair> wihtout*
[09:48] <fdsafdsafew> hmm i dont know i probably have more repositories enabled than you
[09:49] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, I have universe and multiverse and alol the usual suspects any idea which repo?
[09:49] <fdsafdsafew> neilwardle2002 have you tried using ndiswrapper
[09:49] <eternalist> Can someone help me with this i followed the guide but it hasnt helped
[09:49] <fdsafdsafew> no but i could give you a copy of my sources.list
[09:49] <neilwardle2002> no I havn't gone that path yet!
[09:49] <eternalist> wow new kernel
[09:49] <eternalist> ill be back
[09:50] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, can u post in flood?
[09:50] <fdsafdsafew> ill use the pastebin
[09:50] <fdsafdsafew> my sources.list is great
[09:50] <brizben> ok
[09:51] <vanchu> looks like that worked
[09:51] <Jordan_U> neilwardle2002, 7.20 ?
[09:52] <fdsafdsafew> im getting real anxious for the next release to come
[09:52] <vanchu> does wine work for installing drivers ?
[09:52] <fdsafdsafew> no
[09:52] <vanchu> didnt think it would
[09:53] <vanchu> I need a driver for my touch pad and web cam
[09:53] <cafaro> When I'm searching packages with "apt-get cache search", I can't find a lot of packages (like BitchX). Anyone knows what's causing this?
[09:53] <g[r]eek> Hi guys - I've installed Gutsy desktop successfully. However during the entire boot phase my screen is blank (black) and I only see things when Ubuntu desktop login is ready - from then on it works perfectly. So basically, I don't see Ubuntu's orange boot-phase progress bar etc.
[09:53] <fdsafdsafew> whats wrong with your touch pad?
[09:53] <picapau> join last
[09:53] <fdsafdsafew> cafaro isnt it apt-cache search
[09:53] <fdsafdsafew> not apt-get cache search
[09:53] <fdsafdsafew> and i think default it searches descriptions
[09:54] <g[r]eek> And the same for Ubuntu's shut-down phase progress bar - blank screen
[09:54] <vanchu> if my thumb touched it when I'm typing my cursor will jump to the middle of the line that I'm typing
[09:54] <vanchu> then cause me to type words in other words
[09:54] <vanchu> I dont know if that makes sence
[09:54] <fdsafdsafew> o yeah it does
[09:54] <cafaro> that's what I meant fdsafdsafew
[09:54] <fdsafdsafew> advanced windows driver will let you enable those kinds of features
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> like palm protect
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> sensativity
[09:55] <vanchu> cool
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> no thats not a linux thing i mean i know what youre talking about
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> cause i have seen the synaptics driver utility in windows
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> so many features on that thing
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> i dont know how much configuring you can do in linux with something like that
[09:55] <fdsafdsafew> i can adjust speed, thats about it
[09:56] <vanchu> I hope I can fix it
[09:56] <fdsafdsafew> but i havent gone in depth searching for more
[09:56] <vanchu> lol
[09:56] <vanchu> it drives me nuts
[09:56] <fdsafdsafew> i just dont touch the pad at all when im typing
[09:56] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, did you get a link for that paste?
[09:56] <vanchu> I'm learning to do that
[09:57] <fdsafdsafew> brizben sorry i didnt know you wanted it i was waiting for a confirmation
[09:57] <fdsafdsafew> ill do it now
[09:57] <fdsafdsafew> http://pastebin.ca/892339
[09:57] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, ok sorry thank you very much for your help
[09:57] <fdsafdsafew> its ubuntu repos and linux mint repos.
[09:58] <fdsafdsafew> im sort of violating the rules by submitting those repos but its late at night lol
[09:58] <apparle> how to use apt-zip
[09:58] <g[r]eek> Any ideas as to my problem described further up?
[09:58] <Eric^gerber> hey, anyone familiar with remapping the sensitivity buttons on logitech mice? specifically the g5
[09:58] <Eric^gerber> i haven't been able to find any useful info on the internets
[09:58] <brizben> fdsafdsafew, thanks I might try free and non-free
[09:59] <Eric^gerber> xev doesn't recognize the button presses at all
[09:59] <fdsafdsafew> theres something in control center for mouse speed eric, i dont know where or what its called but i got a little slider for sensativity
[09:59] <tarelerulz> I am to install java via firefox plugin that synaptic for  bookworms demo  and it failed .  The box that should be the game is gray. I guess that plugin for Ubuntu 64 bit is broken too . and flash too
[09:59] <fdsafdsafew> oh i didnt know it was not working eric
[09:59] <Eric^gerber> fdsafdsafew: nah
[09:59] <Eric^gerber> i'm trying to remap them to _not_ change the sensitivity
[09:59] <schlort> i think he wants to perform actions with them
[09:59] <Eric^gerber> the setpoint software for windows lets you remap them to do whatever
[09:59] <schlort> i'd also love to know this
[10:00] <Eric^gerber> but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize the buttons at all
[10:00] <fdsafdsafew> hmm, do you know if ubuntu is at least getting a keypress?
[10:00] <Eric^gerber> i wouldn't know how to check
[10:00] <Eric^gerber> unless that's what xev does
[10:00] <Eric^gerber> in which case the answer is no
[10:00] <Eric^gerber> xev shows nothing
[10:01] <Joshx1> How do I mount a HardDrive with a space in it
[10:01] <Joshx1> 's name?
[10:01] <fdsafdsafew> hmm, compiz will let you set buttons by pressing buttons, so if you set it to do that and press one of those buttons compiz will tell you what it is, and of course set it as the command for whatever
[10:01] <Joshx1> I've tried sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/Local\ Disk/
[10:01] <India> http://forceindiaf1.freeblog.hu/
[10:01] <fdsafdsafew> but as far as making it launch an application, i dont know what you would do, but if that works you at least know its receiving a keypress
[10:01] <Eric^gerber> hmm
[10:02] <fdsafdsafew> then just find a software that will redirect key presses to commands
[10:02] <Eric^gerber> fdsafdsafew: where would i find these settings?
[10:02] <fdsafdsafew> hold on ill find out
[10:02] <Eric^gerber> i've only been using ubuntu for 2 days so yeah
[10:02] <Eric^gerber> Joshx1: try putting it in quotes?
[10:03] <Joshx1> yes
[10:03] <Eric^gerber> "/media/Local Disk/"
[10:03] <fdsafdsafew> it will work with anything you have to initiate
[10:03] <fdsafdsafew> like rotate cube
[10:03] <fdsafdsafew> you could make a certain key rotate your cube right or left
[10:03] <Joshx1> i've tried "/media/Local Disk", /media/"Local Disk" .. :s
[10:04] <schlort> i dont think it sets the action buttin by keypress
[10:04] <Eric^gerber> fdsafdsafew: oh, nah
[10:04] <schlort> you have to actually type in the name of the button
[10:04] <Eric^gerber> none of the programs i've tried have recognized the buttons at all
[10:04] <schlort> problem is, i'm not sure what the mapping for those buttons even are
[10:04] <Eric^gerber> X definitely isn't seeing it
[10:05] <cafaro> When I'm searching packages with "apt-cache search", I can't find a lot of packages (like BitchX). Anyone knows what's causing this?
[10:05] <fdsafdsafew> son of a crap they changed it, it wasnt always like that
[10:05] <fdsafdsafew> i know because i used that to test my multimedia remote
[10:07]  * syc_ mohon pamid dulu teman-teman
[10:07] <tarelerulz> Have any of you ever try to play bookworm online ?  It needs java right.
[10:08] <fdsafdsafew> tarelerulz with wine .9.54 i got the full version to work
[10:08] <fdsafdsafew> older wine didnt work
[10:08] <fdsafdsafew> not the online but the application
[10:09] <kornelius> just installed unrar-free and now cant find it on my pc!!!any ideas?
[10:11] <Pakman1> I am running these two commands but still not getting the 4 desktop cube can someone help me?
[10:11] <tarelerulz> fdsafdsafew:  I am really just trying to get java running on my 64 bit Ubuntu and 64 bit firefox.   I just don't really understand why you can get java working.  I remember install java before and all I remember doing is make system link for firefox to use .  that is what it told me to do. I don't see why 64 bit is not out there for java in that way.
[10:11] <Pakman1> gconftool-2 –type int –set /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/hsize 4
[10:11] <Pakman1> gconftool-2 –type int –set /apps/compiz/general/screen0/options/number_of_desktops 1
[10:11] <bod_> Pakman1,
[10:11] <Pakman1> yes bod_
[10:11] <bod_> Pakman1, have you got ccsm?
[10:11] <Pakman1> whats ccsm sorry I am a noob
[10:12] <bod_> Pakman1, compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:12] <Pakman1> yes I used this command to get it sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:12] <bod_> Pakman1, type this into a terminal ,.,. sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:12] <bod_> ok
[10:12] <bod_> lol
[10:13] <bod_> now open it ,. by typing ccsm
[10:13] <Pakman1> ok done
[10:13] <bod_> the top plugin general,. click on it
[10:13] <Pakman1> ok
[10:13] <bod_> has it opened another window?
[10:14] <Pakman1> yes
[10:14] <bod_> cool,.,.  sec
[10:14] <Carbonflux> does anyone have any opinions on how stable the ntfs-g3 stuff is ? say for example I wanted to use a NTFS drive for storing data.
[10:14] <peleg> Hey people, I really need some help with wifi. I'm quite lost - followed many HOWTOS, but it just won't work.
[10:14] <Tyczek> can you check if this config is good? http://pastebin.com/m15fd4b61
[10:14] <gluonman> How do I get g++ to compile something?
[10:14] <bod_> Pakman1, third tab,. the options should be set to ,.,.4,.,.1,.,.1
[10:14] <peleg> I am working with an old computer now, XP, because I just can't access internet...
[10:14] <cafaro> When I'm searching packages with "apt-cache search", I can't find a lot of packages (like BitchX). Anyone knows what's causing this?
[10:15] <Carbonflux> you say g++ file.cpp -o executable
[10:15] <Pakman1> sweet bod_ got it
[10:15] <Pakman1> thx a lot I appreciate it
[10:15] <bod_> Pakman1, ok 1 more thing,.,. make sure you have the desktop cube, and rotate cube plugin ticked
[10:15] <gluonman> Carbonflux, okay. Thanks. I was trying to figure it out.
[10:15] <Carbonflux> or man g++ but that is like reading a book
[10:15] <cafaro> When I'm searching packages with "apt-cache search", I can't find a lot of packages (like BitchX). Anyone knows what's causing this? Could it be this has something to do with the Ubuntu version (I'm using dapper)
[10:15] <Carbonflux> gluonman, take a look at somenes makefile
[10:15] <liqo_> was genau soll mir das sagen....? Scheiss auf ne funktionierewnde gui--?
[10:15] <Pakman1> ok let me try that
[10:15] <Carbonflux> someones*
[10:15] <bod_> Pakman1, if you need anymore help with compiz just pm me
[10:16] <Pakman1> cool
[10:16] <gluonman> Carbonflux, what is that?
[10:16] <dgjones> !info Bitchx
[10:16] <Carbonflux> gluonman, looking at sample makefiles can teach you about common usage
[10:16] <ubotu> bitchx (source: ircii-pana): Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB
[10:16] <gluonman> Carbonflux, okay.
[10:16] <gluonman> Carbonflux, thank you for your help.
[10:16] <Carbonflux> gluonman, make is a command the parses a makefile.
[10:16] <dgjones> !repo | cafaro, have you checked that you've got all the required repositories enabled?
[10:16] <ubotu> cafaro, have you checked that you've got all the required repositories enabled?: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[10:16] <Carbonflux> gluonman, makefiles control larger builds
[10:17] <sunseeker888> guys, I am a newbie. I have just connected mt camera to a usb port. where can I see the device? does the camera was to be on
[10:17] <gluonman> Carbonflux, so I would type make and then the name of the file to be written and it would make the file that I could then write my code in?
[10:17] <Bodsda> brb,. gonna go get some more icecream
[10:17] <Carbonflux> gluonman, a makefile is a script that can check the dates of files and dependencies and then compile what is needed.
[10:18] <mitsanaga> hello
[10:18] <gluonman> Carbonflux, ok.
[10:18] <cafaro> ok ubotu
[10:18] <gluonman> Carbonflux, thanks again.
[10:18] <Carbonflux> gluonman, it depends on what you are trying to do, normally you would just type: make it looks for a file called makefile by defult
[10:18] <peleg> hmmm... I'll give it another shot... :-)
[10:18] <Carbonflux> gluonman, yw...are you trying to build something you downloaded?
[10:18] <peleg> I'm having difficulties with /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:18] <gluonman> Carbonflux, oh okay. I am just looking for a way to write C++ code and compile it. Kind of like Visual Studio.
[10:18] <peleg> I have followed some HOWTOS but with no success.
[10:19] <gluonman> I want to create projects and be able to compile them in order to test them.
[10:19] <peleg> I am willing to write a new one...
[10:19] <mitsanaga> does anybody know a good website to go to, to learn how to use Terminal... im new to linux
[10:19] <peleg> but I really need to know what's going on there.
[10:19] <Ogedei> on tty1, when booting, a bunch of services are started *after* the login prompt is shown, adding some noise text over my "login:" thingy. any idea why this would happen? (this is ubuntu gutsy)
[10:19] <Carbonflux> gluonman, well there are a few gui's out there also, you can look at the programming section of the add programs app, or in the package manager
[10:19] <peleg> Maybe one of you is familiar with this file?
[10:19] <mitsanaga> what file
[10:20] <peleg> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:20] <dgjones> !terminal | mitsanaga
[10:20] <ubotu> mitsanaga: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:20] <gluonman> Carbonflux, ok. I took a little peek, but some of the things I had tried to download before didn't really suit my needs the way Visual Studio did.
[10:20] <mitsanaga> no, not really
[10:20] <Bodsda> i made it back with my icecream !!!!
[10:20] <Carbonflux> gluonman, VS is a "IDE" integrated development environment, a lot of stuff in linux tho is just done on the command line with a editor.
[10:20] <Bodsda> !yay
[10:20] <ubotu> Glad you made it! :-)
[10:20] <mitsanaga> ok
[10:20] <Carbonflux> gluonman, linux programming is a bit more "raw" heh
[10:20] <Carbonflux> not always
[10:20] <gluonman> Carbonflux, yeah. I've written some codes in text editor and was looking for a compiler that could read a text editer file and run it.
[10:20] <mitsanaga> ok, thanks ubotu
[10:20] <Carbonflux> there are IDEs
[10:20] <Carbonflux> but the learning curve might be a bit steeper
[10:21] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:21] <Bodsda> mitsanaga, u know ubotu is a bot yeah?
[10:21] <Carbonflux> gluonman, you might want to try some python programming
[10:21] <mitsanaga> now a new question... how do i get my new webcam to work... i know that there is probably some way to do it, but i dont know how
[10:21] <gluonman> Carbonflux, right now I need to use C++, though I would certainly make use of python eventually.
[10:21] <Carbonflux> gluonman, there are some IDEs for python in linux also, a lot of stuff is written in it
[10:21] <Bodsda> mitsanaga,
[10:21] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I have an IDE for Python.
[10:21] <mitsanaga> yes?
[10:22] <peleg> bod: a very nice bot, you must admit...
[10:22] <mitsanaga> no
[10:22] <Bodsda> mitsanaga, just wondered, because you thanked him/her ,.,.;)
[10:22] <mitsanaga> no i did not know
[10:22] <mitsanaga> lol
[10:22] <peleg> !yay
[10:22] <Carbonflux> gluonman, well, I use a editor called KATE and just compile using a makefile on the command line personally, I code in C++ normally
[10:22] <ubotu> Glad you made it! :-)
[10:22] <peleg> see? :-)
[10:22] <Bodsda> peleg, only when used by the right hands,. he can be a pain in the *** otherwise
[10:22] <cafaro> ubotu: how can i enable all the repositories?
[10:22] <gluonman> Carbonflux, ok. You just find KATE in synaptic?
[10:22] <peleg> ok, ok, I don't touch it...
[10:22] <peleg> :-)
[10:22] <gluonman> Carbonflux, and files you write with KATE can be saved as .cpp files?
[10:23] <Bodsda> peleg, look further up,.,. i used !yay when i got more icecream!!!!
[10:23] <Carbonflux> gluonman, its a KDE app tho so you might have to install a lot of extra stuff if you are running gnome.
[10:23] <mitsanaga> im actually beginning to really like but get really frusterated with Linux Ubuntu to the point of reverting to windows
[10:23] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I am running gnome.
[10:23] <Carbonflux> gluonman, ya, it supports a bunch of languages, its a programming editor
[10:23] <mitsanaga> i can at least use all my stuff on windows lol
[10:23] <Carbonflux> gluonman, there is a emacs also
[10:23] <gluonman> Carbonflux, what about the standard gnome text editor that is standard installation?
[10:24] <peleg> I am not reverting to no windows (but I am using it at the moment, cause there is no internet in my ubuntu!)
[10:24] <cafaro> dgjones: how can i enable all the required repositories?
[10:24] <Carbonflux> gluonman, that can work fine, just not as many features
[10:24] <gluonman> Carbonflux, right.
[10:24] <Bodsda> peleg, TRAITOR!!!!1
[10:24] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I'll look into emacs and KATE and see what might work for me.
[10:24] <Carbonflux> gluonman, emacs works in gnome, its very complex
[10:24] <peleg> gluonman: have you tried SciTE?
[10:24] <mitsanaga> Peleg, just go to updates or add/remove progams and install from there
[10:24] <gluonman> peleg, I've not even heard of SciTe.
[10:24] <Bodsda> cafaro, edit /etc/apt/sources.list           uncomment all lines beginning with deb
[10:24] <peleg> I can't install nothing from there, I have no internet
[10:25] <Carbonflux> gluonman, debugging is not like VS tho, not so tightly integrated
[10:25] <peleg> SciTE is really good. I use it.
[10:25] <peleg> check.
[10:25] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I'm just used to programming with Visual Studio. I've never done it in Linux.
[10:25] <mitsanaga> i mostly just want to have windows on a seperate drive so i can play my WINDOWS ONLY games
[10:25] <gluonman> peleg, thanks for the information. I'll look into it.
[10:25] <mitsanaga> because Wine and all those other freebies dont work
[10:25] <gluonman> Carbonflux, have you used what peleg is talking about?
[10:25] <gluonman> Carbonflux, or at least know about it?
[10:25] <peleg> forget about wine... what's the point?
[10:26] <Carbonflux> gluonman, I do a lot of programming with VS, its very different from the way I program in linux, I prefer linux tho, even tho it might seem more primitive there are also no black boxes, nothing is hidden in the end.
[10:26] <Bodsda> mitsanaga, why doesnt wine work??
[10:26] <mitsanaga> im not sure
[10:26] <peleg> wine makes a lot of problems.
[10:26] <gluonman> Carbonflux, oh. I definitely love Linux. I don't think it's primitive at all.
[10:26] <Adys> Wasnt there a way to show current running processes under ubuntu?
[10:26] <Joshx1> i program with butterflies
[10:26] <peleg> We have linux, why try to get win softs?
[10:26] <mitsanaga> its usually that its just missing a certain "driver"
[10:26] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I've been using Linux for a while, but not for programming yet.
[10:26] <Bodsda> im running dreamweaver cs33 as we speak3
[10:26] <sandr-> Adys, ps -e
[10:26] <Adys> cheers
[10:26] <peleg> adys: in the monitor
[10:27] <Carbonflux> gluonman, I have not tried it, but I like my command line heh, I never did experiment with IDEs in linux because learned C under unix many years ago and just got used to makefiles
[10:27] <Adys> got it thanks
[10:27] <mitsanaga> oh, i know that it is possible to run windows stuff in linux, but for some reason it has been ..... impossible for me
[10:27] <Joshx1> they open their hands and let the delicate wings flap once
[10:27] <peleg> Again I will ask, maybe a new member here knows:
[10:27] <Bodsda> ??
[10:27] <peleg> I have a difficulty with network/interfaces file
[10:27] <Joshx1> the disturbance rippes outwards, changing the follow of the eddy currents in the upper atmosphere
[10:27] <gluonman> Carbonflux, well I'm just the opposite. I would love to get used to command line because I'm always up for a challenge. But I was a baby programmer in the Visual Studio environment, so it's what I'm used to.
[10:27] <Bodsda> peleg,  kno3ws what?
[10:27] <peleg> I can't access internet (hence I use windows)
[10:28] <peleg> bod: the reason of why I'm a "traitor"... :-)
[10:28] <Bodsda> peleg, oh yeah,. i taritored you earlier,.,.lol,.,. why doesnt it work?
[10:28] <Joshx1> which acts as a lenses that deflects incoming cosmic rays, focusing them to strike the drive platter and flip the desired bit
[10:28] <tarelerulz> I am lost if they have 64 bit java then why can't use that for your 64 bit firefox ?
[10:28] <Carbonflux> gluonman, well I don't think you should give up on looking for a IDE, what peleg said might help, there is also one called Eclipse that  alot of people like
[10:28] <sandr-> did you set it with the gnome-network-manager ?
[10:28]  * Bodsda apologizes for his english today
[10:28] <peleg> I don't even have "wireless" in my network manager
[10:28]  * Bodsda blames his bad spelling on the government
[10:28] <peleg> carb: eclipse is quite heavy, I think.
[10:29] <gluonman> Carbonflux, I have taken note of all of these programs. SciTE, KATE, Eclipse, and emacs.
[10:29] <sandr-> oh it's a wireless card...
[10:29] <mitsanaga> if anything im the traitor right now... im downloading windows as we speak so i can play my Windows only games
[10:29] <gluonman> I'll look into each of them and figure out what works for me
[10:29] <Carbonflux> gluonman, just have to take it slow or you will get frustrated because its not the same as windows stuff
[10:29] <pajamian> peleg: check to see if you need to enable restricted drivers
[10:29] <gluonman> Oh, of course.
[10:29] <peleg> sandr: I don't know what the problem is, actually.
[10:30] <Bodsda> gluonman, r u knew to linux programming?
[10:30] <sandr-> there's something called ndiswrapper, it takes a windows inf file ( driver ) and wraps it in linux, but I have no experience with that; use this as last resort, check restriced drivers first
[10:30] <gluonman> I've been using Linux long enough (and just programming only at the university's windows computers) that I understand how it can be with Linux.
[10:30] <mitsanaga> how do you enable restricted drivers... cause that might fix ALOT of my problems
[10:30] <Carbonflux> gluonman, some good programming channels on this server also, ##C, ##C++, etc.
[10:30] <gluonman> Bodsda, I'm not knew to Linux, but I am knew to programming in Linux.
[10:30] <cafaro> Bodsda: I uncommented all the lines beginning with deb, and I still can't find bitchx with: apt-cache search bitchx
[10:30] <Bodsda> gluonman, oh,.,. so you know bash then?
[10:30] <Carbonflux> gluonman, you might try asking in some of those channels, or in the #linux channel etc
[10:30] <gluonman> Bodsda, yes.
[10:30] <gluonman> Carbonflux, thanks again.
[10:30] <sandr-> System->Administration->Restricted Drivers
[10:31] <Bodsda> cafaro, just try    sudo apt-get install bitchx          or use synaptic
[10:31] <pele1> and then I followed HOWTOS that lead me to a situation where I don't even see "WIRELESS" in gnome network manager.
[10:31] <Bodsda> gluonman, python?
[10:31] <gluonman> Bodsda, no.
[10:31] <gluonman> Bodsda, C++
[10:31] <cafaro> Bodsda: E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[10:31] <Bodsda> gluonman, ah..,.,.,. me got scared of C when i tried,.,. i couldnt even follow the how-to for a hello world tuto
[10:31] <pele1> sandr: I have PRO/wireless there, checked, and "in use"
[10:32] <gluonman> Bodsda, C++ is really my main language.
[10:32] <pajamian> pele1: in case you didn't see this before ... check to see if you need to enable restricted drivers
[10:32] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:32] <Joshx1> Bodsa: Same as me, I just do PHP
[10:32] <Bodsda> cafaro, your prob spelling wrong or its called something slightly diff,.,. just use synaptic
[10:32] <Bodsda> Joshx1, im doing bash and python
[10:32] <gluonman> Bodsda, don't let C++ scare you too much. It just takes a long time and much damage to your hair to learn, but once you've learned it you can work wonders.
[10:32] <mitsanaga> AFK
[10:32] <rajasun> cafaro: apt-cache policy bitchx produces > 500 http://kr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[10:32] <pele1> Joshx: I'm doing PHP mostly as well, and SciTE does the work perfectly.
[10:33] <Joshx1> Python is cool, I played around for a while with it but I'm more of a web guy.
[10:33] <Joshx1> I use eclipse.
[10:33] <Bodsda> gluonman, it wasnt really the scare3d bit,.,. it was the crap windows programmes,. and i couldnt understand all that compiling nonsense
[10:33] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I add a something.desktop to a specific user's menu?(can it override the global one?)
[10:33] <rajasun> cafaro: fwiw, bitchx seems to be dead. Try scrollz instead for a similar look n feel
[10:33] <pele1> sandr: are you with me?
[10:33] <Bodsda> Joshx1, i only know realy basic html,.,. not much else
[10:33] <gluonman> Well, it's easy to mess up a C++ program. Very easy. It is kind of complicated.
[10:34] <mavi-> hm, in gutsy my keyboard starts repeating some chars when i type them
[10:34] <mavi-> like 8-10 times
[10:34] <Joshx1> What's the difference between C and C++ basically?
[10:34] <P5YCH00> guys
[10:34] <mavi-> C++ have OOP
[10:34] <Bodsda> i didnt understand why i couldnt just type     print "Hello World"              it was so overcomplicated
[10:34] <gluonman> peleg, Carbonflux, I am going to get going now, but I appreciate your information and your help.
[10:34] <P5YCH00> i made a 3D artwork
[10:34] <P5YCH00> can u tell me what you guys think of it  	http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/FE/47/3da73df9d7b1fe47.jpg
[10:34] <pele1> cheers
[10:34] <Joshx1> Oh ok thanks.
[10:34] <mavi-> Joshx1: C++ have classes and are a diffrent language =)
[10:34] <P5YCH00> its made with blender 3d
[10:35] <Bodsda> P5YCH00, haha,. very funny
[10:35] <Carbonflux> cu gluonman :)
[10:35] <Joshx1> Oh ok.
[10:35] <SleepingSloth> P5YCH00,  this is a support channel
[10:35] <Carbonflux> does anyone have any opinions on how stable the ntfs-g3 stuff is ? say for example I wanted to use a NTFS drive for storing data.
[10:35] <mavi-> if you actually made that with blender and no photoshopping afterwards then your great
[10:35] <P5YCH00> >=|
[10:35] <mavi-> if you didnt, you have a very bad sense of humor
[10:36] <P5YCH00> hey it wasnt humor
[10:36] <Bodsda> P5YCH00, but why are you tricking people to look at an almost naked bloke?
[10:36] <P5YCH00> i accidently stumbled onto then
[10:36] <Joshx1> I might give c++ a try.
[10:36] <P5YCH00> i felt liked sharing the PAIN
[10:36] <P5YCH00> >;\
[10:36] <Joshx1> But I code in PHP for work for 8 hours+ a day. :P
[10:36] <phix> grrrrr, how can I disable the gnome network thingy?
[10:36] <SleepingSloth> P5YCH00,  share it elsewhere
[10:36] <Bodsda> P5YCH00, i actually thought u could use blender (i tried and failed) damn you and your man in whites
[10:37] <Bodsda> phix, find out waot its pid is then sigkill it
[10:37] <Bodsda> SleepingSloth, did you get fooled to?
[10:37] <phix> gaim / pidgin just sits there waiting for the network to "come up", but it is up, it is just the gnome network thingy telling it the network is down
[10:37] <phix> I am using a bridge
[10:37] <phix> I dont want DHCP enabled on eth0
[10:38] <pele1> phix,
[10:38] <phix> Bodsda: I dont know it
[10:38] <phix> pele1:
[10:38] <pele1> maybe we can make research together?
[10:38] <phix> yay
[10:38] <Bodsda> phix, does it show up in top ?
[10:38] <SleepingSloth> Bodsa, well, it's irrelevant, but yes. i posted before i clicked, if that helps. i've seen people kicked and banned for less...
[10:38] <phix> you have the same issue?
[10:38] <phix> Bodsda: I dont know what it is called
[10:38] <phix> Bodsda: I am sure it does show up in top
[10:38] <Bodsda> oh
[10:38] <pajamian> phix: you need to change your settings to manual if you don't want to use DHCP, and you will probably have to restart networking as well
[10:38] <Carbonflux> phix, there are a few things in sessions you can try, if its not there its in services
[10:38] <Flux-D> Hi, Is there any program that can map a program to the port it is using
[10:38] <Carbonflux> ya or that
[10:38] <Adys> any advice for a good ftp client under linux btw?
[10:38] <phix> pajamian: I dont wnt to assign an IP address to my interface as I am using a bridge
[10:39] <phix> the interface I want DHCP enabled is br0
[10:39] <phix> yet that is not a choice
[10:39] <neilwardle2002> I have an issue with an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 64 bit , my wireless stopped working after update and the syslog just says that the firmware is uploaded and complete ver 1.0.4.3 no 'reset complete' IRQ seen, retrying, interface reset failed. card socket may be faulty or IRQ line to busy.
[10:39] <phix> Adys: ncftp
[10:39] <crazor> Flux-D, nmap
[10:39] <Flux-D> Adys, gftp, kasablanca, kftpgrabber
[10:39] <Joshx1> filezilla
[10:39] <pajamian> phix: youy mean you want to go through br0 instead of eth0?
[10:39] <pele1> phix: I have read this page:
[10:39] <Adys> Ill go with gftp then thanks :)
[10:39] <phix> pajamian: yes
[10:39] <pele1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[10:40] <phix> pajamian: I want gnome network to STFU and let me use a bridge (br0) instead of telling the network is down because eth0 doesnt have an address assigned to it
[10:40] <nomad111> does anyone have an 8800gt or 8800gts 512mb
[10:40] <Joshx1> gFtp made me cry.
[10:40] <Carbonflux> phix, did you disable the network applet in the sessions dialog ?
[10:40] <ikonia> phix: phrases like STFU are NOT welcome or appropirate for this channel
[10:40] <pele1> phix: hearing you and I think you might help me more I can help you...
[10:40] <phix> ikonia: oh ok :)
[10:41] <pele1> josh: made me cry as well
[10:41] <ikonia> phix: if you can't describe a problem without using offensive phrases or language - don't
[10:41] <Carbonflux> phix system->preferences->sessions
[10:41] <pele1> did you try the "kftpgrabber"?
[10:41] <phix> pele1: you are having wifi issues?
[10:41] <pajamian> phix: that's a bit beyond me, unfortunately, you may have to edit some files for that, I don't know.  try restarting networking, though: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:41] <phix> ikonia: hmmmm it makes me feel better :)
[10:41] <Joshx1> The best way to pick what you like is to test everything. With ubuntu it's so easy.
[10:41] <nomad111> nobody?
[10:41] <pele1> phix: yes. I am trying to configure /etc/network file
[10:41] <Joshx1> I have a 8800gts
[10:41] <pele1> can't make it work
[10:41] <phix> ikonia: ok I have calmed down, what should I do?
[10:41] <phix> pele1: ok
[10:41] <ikonia> phix: describe the problem in simple clear english please.
[10:41] <nomad111> Joshx1: how did u get nvidia drivers working
[10:42] <pele1> phix: you can solve your problem first...
[10:42] <phix> ikonia: sure thing, gaim will not connect to network as it tells me it is waiting for the network to become available
[10:42] <pele1> I'm here, we can speak about it a bit later if you prefer.
[10:42] <Joshx1> i couldn't figure it out at the time
[10:42] <ikonia> phix: ok - is the network available, what type of network is it (wirless/wired local/internet)
[10:42] <phix> ikonia: The icon in the system tray / notifaction bar tells me the network is down.  if I bring it up it tries to use DHCP on eth0, which is what I dont want, I have setup a bridge in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:42] <phix> ikonia: wired
[10:42] <mitsanaga> there, hopefull now, once im done re upgrading my system to the latest updates and most recent apps i will be able to use my new wireless keyboard and webcam and wireless card
[10:43] <F4RR3EL> caf
[10:43] <ikonia> phix: please put your /etc/interfaces files in a pastebin please.
[10:43] <ikonia> phix: /etc/network/interfaces sorry
[10:43] <phix> ikonia: my network works :) I am speaking to you from the computer
[10:43] <g[r]eek> Hi guys - I've installed Gutsy desktop successfully. However during the entire boot phase my screen is blank (black) and I only see things when Ubuntu desktop login is ready - from then on it works perfectly. So basically, I don't see Ubuntu's orange boot-phase progress bar etc.
[10:43] <g[r]eek> And the same for Ubuntu's shut-down phase progress bar - blank screen
[10:43] <ikonia> phix: thats fine - please put the file I requested in the pastebin
[10:43] <phix> ikonia: it is just gnome is telling me eth0 is down, but I dont care about that
[10:44] <phix> ok
[10:44] <lollo> ciucia kust ki
[10:44] <mcp_> apt tells me, it cant download " libgtk2.0-0". Where can i fetch the deb manually?
[10:44] <crazor> search in google...
[10:44] <ikonia> mcp_: why can't it download it - is it not available, does it not exist in the repo
[10:44] <ikonia> mcp_: getting gtk packages from an external source is not recommended
[10:45] <neilwardle2002> Could someone help please I have an issue with an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 64 bit , my wireless stopped working after update and the syslog just says that the firmware is uploaded and complete ver 1.0.4.3 no 'reset complete' IRQ seen, retrying, interface reset failed. card socket may be faulty or IRQ line to busy.
[10:45] <phix> I need a pasting site
[10:45] <phix> nm
[10:45] <phix> topic :)
[10:45] <pele1> phix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:45] <mcp_> ikonia, synaptic shows it as installed. But i want to reinstall. Tried the global-menu-bar. Now i want go back to normal menu
[10:45] <phix> pele1: yes :)
[10:46] <ikonia> mcp_: ok - so why are you not re-installing through synaptic, putting a 3rd party conflicting deb on your system is not a good idea
[10:46] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to use Timevault for backup, however timevault-notifier doesn't start, and after about 5min, it states http://pastebin.com/d39c1e65b any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:46] <mcp_> ikonia, reinstall is what causes the "could not download" message
[10:46] <ikonia> mcp_: so as I said - why is it not available.
[10:46] <mcp_> i have no idea
[10:47] <pele1> ikonia: do you think you can handle one more error (my error) at the moment?
[10:47] <phix> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check
[10:47] <ikonia> mcp_: right, so check the mirrors, try to download it manually from the same mirror, try another mirror, check if the package version has changed
[10:47] <phix> wtf
[10:47] <phix> javascript is enabled
[10:47] <phix> fuck you@
[10:47] <pele1> (also wifi)
[10:47] <FloodBot2> phix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <PriceChild> !ohmy | phix
[10:47] <ubotu> phix: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:47] <ikonia> phix: you've meeb warned about your langauge 2 times now
[10:47] <Flux-D> crazor what is the command to look up what app is on what port?
[10:47] <phix> ubotu: oh ok
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <ikonia> phix: your not sorry - you've just done this a minute ago with STFU and WTF
[10:47] <phix> ikonia: oh yeah
[10:47] <phix> ikonia: yeah
[10:48] <phix> ikonia: I cant paste
[10:48] <ikonia> phix: why do you persist with bad language when you've been asked not to
[10:48] <ikonia> phix: I have no interest in helping people who swear randomly into a channel of 1000+ users
[10:48] <phix> ikonia: right, 3rd strike I am out, I get it
[10:48] <mcp_> where will i find libgtk2.0-0 on a mirror? Its not in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/
[10:48] <phix> ikonia: hmmmm
[10:48] <phix> any way
[10:48] <Flux-D> Hi, Is there any program that can map a program to the port it is using
[10:49] <ikonia> mcp_: try just changing your server name to a new mirror in your sources.lst
[10:49] <ikonia> list
[10:49] <phix> ikonia: so why do you want to see my interface file for? it is nothing special
[10:49] <_ruben> Flux-D: sudo netstat -lnp
[10:49] <Flux-D> _ruben, ty
[10:49] <MrKeuner> hi, can I override system wide gnome menu items by putting a something.desktop file somewehere in a user's /home directory?
[10:49] <ikonia> phix: it would have helped me understand your network setup
[10:49] <phix> ikonia: can I prv msg it to you
[10:49] <phix> ikonia: I just told you
[10:49] <ikonia> phix: I do not wish to private message from you
[10:49] <matthse> join #scribus
[10:49] <ikonia> phix: telling me something and seeing how it is physically laid out is two seperate things.
[10:50] <phix> ikonia: ok, fair enough, I have eth0 and ath0 (wifi), I have a bridge (br0) that bridges them together, it works great
[10:50] <phix> ikonia: gnome network icon thingy is telling me my network is down (eth0) which is kind of true, it has no ip address assigned to it
[10:50] <ikonia> phix: as I've just said - your desciption is not the same as seeing the file and how it's laid out. But as I've also said, I've no interest in helping someone who swears randomly.
[10:50] <phix> ikonia: but other gnome programs, like gaim, believe gnome network thingy and just wait there for the network to come up
[10:51] <phix> ikonia: am I swearing now?
[10:51] <ShizzworX> hilo
[10:51] <phix> ikonia:
[10:51] <phix> auto br0 iface br0 inet dhcp madwifi-vap ath0 madwifi-base wifi0 madwifi-mode ap        wireless-iface ath0 wireless-essid insecureWLAN wireless-key s:insecureKey bridge-ports eth0 ath0
[10:52] <ikonia> phix: please stop messaging me
[10:52] <phix> I am notm I am speaking to channel
[10:52] <ikonia> phix: you keep saying me name - that's addressing me.
[10:52] <phix> ikonia: ok
[10:52] <tarelerulz> Well, thank everyone for your help.  I would like to Linux is in that anyone can make a program /script  and help everyone else out. have a good one all
[10:53] <ShizzworX> what would be the perferred use of Linux Ubuntu?
[10:53] <phix> ok so ikonia is being a, ummmm, female dog, so who else can give me some insite into why gnome does not like my bridge and things my network is down?
[10:54] <PriceChild> !guidelines | phix
[10:54] <ubotu> phix: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:54] <PriceChild> !offtopic | phix ikonia
[10:54] <ubotu> phix ikonia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:54] <matthse> hi, does someone here have any experience with scribus and (very) large files? i got some pdf-export problems
[10:54] <phix> PriceChild: ok, great, I can still ask questions right?
[10:54] <pele1> ikonia: could you give your opinion about my /etc/network/interfaces please? I cannot access to the internet at all, after following a few HOWTOS...
[10:54] <phix> PriceChild: how is that offtopic any way? it works in previous version of ubuntu
[10:54] <ShizzworX> phix,  be respectful of these people or you will get nowhere.
[10:55] <phix> PriceChild: also, LDAP breaks under ubuntu
[10:55] <phix> ShizzworX: ok
[10:55] <pele1> ikonia: read mostly this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[10:55] <ikonia> pele1: sure, if you put it in a pastebin I'll take a look
[10:55] <JoshSN> phix: plenty of people use LDAP with ubuntu.
[10:55] <fabian_> seavas
[10:55] <phix> JoshSN: really? does it freese on bootup at syslogd?
[10:55] <pele1> ikonia: here already: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54832
[10:55] <angah> hi..having prob..not solve yet.. >> http://pastebin.com/m427d59d7
[10:56] <phix> JoshSN: anyway I dont care about that problem right now
[10:56] <JoshSN> phix: Does that count as "using" LDAP in any way shape and or form? Could anyone ON EARTH possibly be said to be "using LDAP" if it freezes their machine on boot? Grow up.
[10:56] <ikonia> pele1: ok - so your connecting to the internet wirlessly, how far along does it get, does the interface come up, does it get an IP etc etc
[10:56] <pele1> ikonia: without the extra  `
[10:56] <phix> JoshSN: hey I am wondering as it is doing that to me
[10:56] <phix> JoshSN: and it didn't in the previous verison of ubuntu, and it doesn't in Debian
[10:56] <stimpie> I just bought a new usb harddisk but it doesnt show up as a mounted device on my desktop, from /var/log/messages I undestand that a device sdf is created for it
[10:56] <bod_> ahaaahhhh!!! guys big problem,.,. ctrl+alt now seems to shutdown/hibernate my computer,.,. i use ctr+alt quite alot,.
[10:56] <pele1> ikonia: in a minute I will post all details
[10:57] <ikonia> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54832
[10:57] <ikonia> oops
[10:57] <ikonia> sorry
[10:57] <ikonia> pele1: the extra ` by CCMP - doesn't look right
[10:57] <phix> JoshSN: so perhaps all of the people that have LDAP working are not using 07.10
[10:57] <JoshSN> phix, Now you might be wondering, but before you were _saying_ that "LDAP breaks under ubuntu"
[10:57] <phix> JoshSN: ubuntu 07.10 to be more specific
[10:57] <ikonia> JoshSN: I'm using ldap with 7.10 without issue as a slave in an exsiting network and as a primary in a virtual network
[10:57] <stimpie> bod_,  change your shortcuts?
[10:58] <ogre> can someone finish the name of this package? linux-restricted-module ???????????? I was trying to get a VM up and it borked my wireless now i need the package to get it back up
[10:58] <phix> is ikonia using it in the nsswitch and pam?
[10:58] <pele1> ikonia: I have configured the file as you've seen, and did
[10:58] <pele1> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:58] <pele1> And got a lot of errors:
[10:58] <bod_> stimpie, ctrl+alt is my shortcut for terminal im after a fix not a wrkaround
[10:58] <ikonia> pele1: can you paste the errors in the pastebin please. .
[10:58] <pele1> ikonia: yes
[10:58] <phix> JoshSN: you may need to quote me on that as ikonia has surely got me on ignore right now
[10:58] <ikonia> phix: yes, I'm using it with nsswitch and pam
[10:58] <JoshSN> Anywho, last night I apt-get update'd and upgrade'd and now my machine won't boot. Right after the grub announcement it says it is frozen, can't mount root block, VFS.
[10:59] <phix> JoshSN: did you update the kernel and forget to run grub-install?
[10:59] <phix> ikonia: weird
[10:59] <bod_> this was just after some updates released today,.,. anyone got any ideas?
[10:59] <dusty_> Feb  5 10:58:05 laptop kernel: [  327.304000] ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
[10:59] <phix> syslog stops working whe nI enabled it
[10:59] <dusty_> what is that?
[11:00] <JoshSN> phix: I have run grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda and I still get the same problem.
[11:00] <ogre> can someone finish the name of this package? linux-restricted-module ???????????? I was trying to get a VM up and it borked my wireless now i need the package to get it back up
[11:00] <pajamian> you have to run grub-install after a kernel upgrade?
[11:00] <phix> JoshSN: no good
[11:00] <pajamian> I've never had to do that.
[11:00] <fabian_> in #brixen
[11:00] <JoshSN> pajamian, no, you don't, but I have a slightly weird system, so I thought I'd try
[11:00] <phix> JoshSN: well the latest ubuntu is broken in many ways, I think I will go back a version
[11:00] <phix> any way
[11:00] <phix> I am going to bed, night all
[11:00] <bod_> night
[11:00] <pajamian> JoshSN: did you try booting under the old kernel?
[11:01] <phix> ikonia: sorry we got off on the wrong foot :) perhaps when I am awake later today I will be more plesent
[11:01] <JoshSN> pajamian, it won't mount the root block, it hasn't gotten to the point where it is picking a kernel
[11:01] <pajamian> ugh, ok
[11:01] <pajamian> heh, this is why I always put /boot on ext2
[11:01] <JoshSN> Another reason I thought grub-install might help
[11:01] <pele1> ikonia: it is there - most of it
[11:01] <pele1> phix: good night
[11:01] <ikonia> pele1: sorry, I missed your post
[11:02] <pele1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54833/
[11:02] <pele1> ikonia: there are more errors - it is quite long. I copy manually; should I copy more?
[11:02] <ikonia> pele1: that looks like it can't actually see eth1
[11:02] <ikonia> pele1: as a physical device it appears it can't see it
[11:03] <JoshSN> pajamian, I mentioned my system wa weird? Well, I've been using linux a long time, and I made /boot only 50Mb, which used to be plenty big enough. My boot is no longer in /etc/fstab and I put my new kernels on /. I'm guessing that the linux kernel package did something confusing with relationg to /dev/sda1 (/boot, no longer in use) and /dev/sda2 (/, where /boot really is now)
[11:03] <ikonia> pele1: if you do an ifconfig eth1 and an iwconfig eth1 do you see any details
[11:03] <pele1> ikonia: I don't even know what it means. I DOES see a network card in administration
[11:04] <pele1> ikonia: device not found
[11:04] <ikonia> pele1: put the output of the two commands I mentioned into a pastebin please. Also what type of wirless card is this ?
[11:04] <pele1> ikonia: intel pro/wireless network connection driver for linux
[11:04] <pele1> ikonia: checked and "in use"
[11:04] <bod_> what is the name of the .so file for the normal ubuntu splash screen?
[11:05] <ShizzworX> in a terminal, how do you check to see which Kernel you have running?
[11:05] <dusty_> ShizzworX, ,am
[11:05] <pele1> ikonia: it CAN see eth0. how can I know what to choose?
[11:05] <dusty_> ShizzworX, man uname
[11:05] <ikonia> pele1: ok - so put the output of 1.) ifconfig -a into a pastebin and then put the output of iwconfig eth1
[11:05] <ShizzworX> dusty_,  that is all? "man uname" ?
[11:05] <ikonia> pele1: what do you mean what to choose ? does your laptop have a wired connect and a wirless card in it ?
[11:05] <zardosht>  /join ##slackware
[11:06] <pajamian> JoshSN: ok, so you don't have a /boot partiton anymore, it's just under root and it's JFS (I think you said?)
[11:06] <pele1> ikonia: I don't know. I guess that I have both - or maybe it is on the same card?
[11:06] <lordleemo> ShizzworX: uname -a
[11:06] <ikonia> pele1: do you have both - yes/no - eg: do you have a wirless connection and a slot to put a network card in
[11:07] <JoshSN> pajamian, no, not JFS. ext2 and ext3 only
[11:07] <dusty_> ShizzworX, man == man pages (manual pages) and uname is the command to look at kernel information.  run 'man uname' first.  Read all that output, then run something like uname -a, uname -ar, etc..
[11:07] <pele1> ikonia: I have both. but iwconfig shows no wireless extension for lo and for eth0. I think that eth1 was for wireless before.
[11:07] <pajamian> JoshSN: ok, which is it?  ext2 or ext3?
[11:08] <ikonia> pele1: eth1 should be - but the fact that the device is not visable is a concern
[11:08] <pele1> ikonia: iwconfig totally ingnores eth1
[11:08] <JoshSN> pajamian, checking, I see / is ext2
[11:08] <ShizzworX> ty Lorder  ty dusty_
[11:08] <pele1> ikonia: maybe I'll try to restart?
[11:08] <ikonia> pele1: reboot so all the kernel modules are loaded correctly then lets start working it through
[11:09] <pajamian> JoshSN: ok, hrmmmm, it really shouldn't have a problem with ext2, I just did the update myself and my /boot is ext2 and it works just fine, so not sure what could be causing it.
[11:09] <pele1> ikonia: rebooting
[11:09] <pele1> ikonia: thanks, I appreciate it.
[11:10] <ogre> how do i list what restricted drivers/modules I am running? someone PLEASE
[11:10] <zardosht> problem with pptp, using network-manager-pptp, whant to connect tp secureix vpn, but the connection failed to connect, while can connect with xp vpn?
[11:10] <JoshSN> It has something to do with initrd, pajamian, I am pretty sure, but I really know very little about initrd
[11:10] <ikonia> ogre: lsmod
[11:10] <ikonia> ogre: or use the restricted driver manager in the gnome gui
[11:10] <pele1> ikonia: maybe it is important: I have a DELL inspiron 6400 (laptop)
[11:10] <ikonia> pele1: that fine
[11:11] <pajamian> JoshSN: unfortunately neitehr do I, I just know the basics of it.  I don't think initrd kicks in until after the boot menu, though.
[11:11] <pele1> ikonia: iwconfig shows only lo and eth0 after reboot
[11:11] <ogre> ikonia:  where is that? i spent all day setting up this sytem and i broke my wireless already :(
[11:12] <JoshSN> pajamian, well, that helps, thanks
[11:12] <JoshSN> pajamian, that was sincere, now I know it probably isn't initrd
[11:12] <ikonia> pele1 so your network card is not visable as a device - has this ever worked ?
[11:12] <ikonia> ogre: system --> administration --> restricted driver manager
[11:12] <pele1> ikonia: it is weird, because it worked in the last 4 days.
[11:12] <pele1> ikonia: I had it visible this morning
[11:13] <zardosht> problem with pptp, using network-manager-pptp, whant to connect tp secureix vpn, but the connection failed to connect, while can connect with xp vpn- any idea?
[11:13] <ikonia> pele1: so what have you done to make it go away - what have you changed
[11:13] <cheesypieces> hello my friends, is there a way to remove all KDE apps at once without going through each program individually?
[11:13] <pele1> ikonia: I have changed only this file (interfaces)
[11:13] <pajamian> JoshSN: my understanding of it is that initrd is used to mount a ram disk during boot with things such as loadable kernel modules, so that the boot process can support filesystems and other things that are not statically compiled into the kernel image.  It is used after the boot menu if I understand correctly.
[11:13] <ikonia> pele1: look in /var/log/messages to see if there is any hints to why eth1/intel card is not working
[11:14] <pele1> ikonia: I have the card visible in restricted drivers manager
[11:14] <ikonia> pele1: but it's not visable to the system
[11:14] <JoshSN> I'll try restating the problem, see if it rings anyone else's bells.
[11:14] <luddite> hi all
[11:14] <cheesypieces> hello my friends, is there a way to remove all KDE apps at once without going through each program individually?
[11:14] <luddite> can someone suggest a file compare tool?
[11:14] <ogre> ikonia:  it says the ipw3945 driver is "not in use" i need some sort of linux-restricted-module package that i lost when set up VM. any advice?
[11:14] <bert__> hi, I need some help with the standard VNC stuff in ubuntu (yeah I have read !vnc)
[11:15]  * ShizzworX begins burning of the ubuntu 7.10 iso
[11:15] <luddite> I.e . are two files of the same size actually the same?
[11:15] <pele1> ikonia: I have some logs about eth1
[11:15]  * ikonia wishes ShizzworX wouldn't use pointless /me commands in a busy channel 
[11:15] <pele1> ikonia: "eth1: link is not ready"
[11:15] <ikonia> pele1: pastebin them please.
[11:15] <g[r]eek> Hi guys - I've installed Gutsy desktop successfully. However during the entire boot phase my screen is blank (black) and I only see things when Ubuntu desktop login is ready - from then on it works perfectly. So basically, I don't see Ubuntu's orange boot-phase progress bar etc.
[11:15] <pele1> ikonia: many times
[11:15] <JoshSN> I have removed /boot from /etc/fstab and been running my kernels from / succesfully for weeks. Last night apt-get update upgraded the (older) 2.6.22 kernel on my machine, and now I can't boot. The error message, right after grub starts, is something like Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:16] <ikonia> pele1: thats not an error - thats because the device isn't there, we need to se why the device isn't there
[11:16] <JoshSN> No, that's not the error, it's like that, though.
[11:16] <bert__> g[r]eek, what kind of motherboard and graphics card do you have and did you also have the same problem with the liveCD ?
[11:17] <g[r]eek> bert__ no livecd worked fine - it is a laptop - acer travelmate, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP
[11:17] <zardosht> pptp problem, using network-manager-pptp, whant to connect tp secureix vpn, but the connection failed to connect, while can connect with xp vpn?
[11:17] <ogre> soommeeonnee plleeaasssee.. ive spent 15 hours setting this up and now wireless is wrecked already. I dont want to have to restart this!
[11:17] <JoshSN> I'm going to reboot into that mess again and see if I can't copy the error message verbatim.
[11:17] <bert__> try reinstalling the usplash and usplash-ubuntu packages (or something like that, don't know the names 100% sure), is it 32 or 64bit g[r]eek ?
[11:18] <ikonia> ogre clam down
[11:18] <g[r]eek> bert__: 32 bit. Ok I shall look into those packages thanks
[11:18] <ikonia> calm down even
[11:18] <ogre> im just stressed
[11:18] <ikonia> ogre well the rest of the channel don't need to hear about it - they just need the problem and time/knowledge to fix it
[11:19] <pajamian> ogre: just wireless is messed up?  if you can plug in a cable and get things working then it is very unlikely that a re-install will be necessary to get things to work.
[11:19] <g[r]eek> bert__: How do I find out what the packages are called? Is there some way I can search the apt?
[11:19] <pele1> ikonia: not much: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54835/
[11:19] <x-X-x> im trying to make the
[11:19] <cheesypieces> what directory are the system icons kept in?
[11:20] <ikonia> pele1: as I said - thats not the reason it's broke, thats a symptom
[11:20] <ogre> pajamian:  i just need to know which linux-restricted-module????? has to do with ipw3945
[11:20] <ikonia> ogre: the package linux-restricted-module contains it
[11:20] <bert__> g[r]eek, just open synaptic and search for the keyword usplash
[11:20] <ikonia> ogre: the restricted manager should help you
[11:20] <pele1> ikonia: yes, but I can't find "eth1" anywhere else in that file. shall I look for something eles?
[11:20] <ikonia> pele1: dmesg | grep eth1
[11:20] <bert__> cheesypieces: /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/icons I think
[11:20] <g[r]eek> bert__: Thanks for your help
[11:20] <eeos> anyone with an idea about a very high performance compiled laguage that can be used for mathematcal / statistical calculations on grid?
[11:21] <pele1> ikonia: can't it be just something in the interface file? you think it something worse?
[11:21] <ikonia> something else is wrong
[11:21] <ogre> ikonia:  well i seem to have that already
[11:21] <x-X-x> im trying to make the mplayer plugin but i get this http://pastebin.ca/892392
[11:21] <bert__> eeos, a scripting language for use in programs like calc, or like jpgraph in PHP or like some kind of java or gtk stuff ?
[11:21] <cheesypieces> thanks bert_
[11:21] <pele1> ikonia: what about "lp: driver loaded but no devices found"?
[11:21] <ikonia> pele1: thats for printers
[11:22] <pajamian> ogre: back up a bit, what is happening?
[11:22] <pele1> hmm..
[11:22] <ikonia> ogre: then you should be fine - what's actually the problem
[11:22] <zardosht> problem with pptp, using network-manager-pptp, whant to connect tp secureix vpn, but the connection failed to connect, while can connect with xp vpn?
[11:22] <grml> pele1: there's a typo in your interfaces file: iface eth1 intet dhcp, intet should be inet
[11:22] <ikonia> x-X-x: why are you compiling mplayer ?
[11:22] <x-X-x> becouse i want 1.5 not 1.4
[11:22] <eeos> bert__: no! high erformance and compiled and usable on grid
[11:22] <ikonia> x-X-x why ?
[11:23] <x-X-x> i am compiling mplayer mozilla plugin not mplayer
[11:23] <pele1> grml: thanks, it's a typo in the bin (manually copied)
[11:23] <ikonia> x-X-x: again - why ?
[11:23] <bert__> sorry eeos, I don't really understand what you are searching for (that's perhaps because I'm not a native english speaker)
[11:23] <x-X-x> so i can play windows media embedded videos
[11:23] <pele1> ikonia: any other directions?
[11:23] <ikonia> x-X-x:why can't you do that with 1.4 ?
[11:23] <bert__> x-X-x the mozilla plugin for mplayer is in the repo
[11:23] <ikonia> pele1: did you get any output from dmesg ?
[11:24] <x-X-x> i havent checked the changelog but i was recommended i use the latest
[11:24] <bert__> and you just have to get some codecs to view windows media videos
[11:24] <eeos> bert__: a programming language (like C) but specialised for high performance statistical computing on grid
[11:24] <pele1> ikonia: dmesg?
[11:24] <ogre> pajamian: ikonia: okay. I tried to set-up a VM and it said i needed a module that screwed up my wireless. (when i rebooted it said i needed a linux-restricted package to get wireless goin)i tried installing almost all of the linux-restricted-module packages
[11:24] <ikonia> x-X-x why ? you seem to be doing this for no reason and you don't seem to understand what your doing
[11:24] <ogre> no luck..
[11:24] <pele1> ikonia: hey, found something!
[11:25] <bert__> eeos, I don't know any language that is made specifically for that but I think most of the existing languages can do it somehow
[11:25] <ikonia> pele1: dmesg | grep eth1
[11:25] <pele1> ikonia: last line in dmesg is "Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work"
[11:25] <ogre> does anyone have ipw3945?
[11:25] <ikonia> ogre what module screwed up your wirless
[11:25] <ikonia> pele1: there is a hardware switch on your laptop - flick it
[11:25] <celoserpa> I`ve just compiled and installed a new kernel (2.6.24) under my Ubuntu 7.10 distro - now ubuntu will only boot on low resolution and the keyboard layout settings seems to be gone ... It seems I need the linux-restricted-modules2.6.24 but I can`t find it anywhere
[11:25] <ikonia> pele1: it enabled/disabled wirless
[11:25] <celoserpa> any hints ?
[11:25] <ikonia> celoserpa because it doesn't exist
[11:26] <ikonia> celoserpa: you've compiled a kernel that doesn't have a matching driver package
[11:26] <pele1> ikonia: I can't believe it. that ugly fn-F2 button...
[11:26] <ikonia> clarezoe: you've just broke your ubuntu package managment compatability
[11:26] <celoserpa> ikonia, hmm... no way to fix it
[11:26] <celoserpa> ?
[11:26] <bert__> celoserpa, try the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I think xorg isn't setup the right way now
[11:26] <ogre> ikonia:  not sure anymore. ive been working on it for an hour and a half. I was trying to install driver that virtualbox said i needed
[11:26] <pele1> ikonia: now I have eth1 in iwconfig
[11:26] <ikonia> celoserpa: make your own restircted drivers package
[11:26] <eeos> bert__: not really, I can assure you .... performances are evry different ....
[11:26] <pele1> (again)
[11:26] <ikonia> bert__: nope he doesn't have a drivers package
[11:26] <ikonia> pele1: ok, well done
[11:26] <clarezoe> ikonia, what do you mean?
[11:26] <celoserpa> ikonia, that could be fun... any directions on how to do it ?
[11:26] <ikonia> ogre: thats the sort o info we need
[11:26] <cheesypieces> whats the gnome bit torrent program called?
[11:26] <bert__> ow sotrry ikonia, forgot that
[11:26] <pele1> ikonia: what is the next step?
[11:27] <bert__> but I don't understand why someone would build his own kernel
[11:27] <celoserpa> bert__, thanks, will try
[11:27] <ikonia> clarezoe: you need to have a matching restricted drivers package - which doesn't exist as you've built your own kernel
[11:27] <pele1> ikonia: I am back to the beginning, but I still can't access the internet.
[11:27] <ogre> anybody have ipw3945??????????????
[11:27] <ikonia> pele1: reboot - and lets see what happens
[11:27] <pele1> ikonia: rebooting. thanks again.
[11:27] <ikonia> ogre: yes - but we need the ino of what's changed
[11:28] <clarezoe> ikonia, did you mess me with another person? I don't have any problem about kernel
[11:28] <bert__> say, anyone got experience with the build-in vnc stuff ubuntu comes with ? (don't send me !vnc please)
[11:28] <ikonia> clarezoe I most certainly did - sorry
[11:28] <PriitM> Hi, what was the name for browser program, which you needed to install when you tried to run Steam through wine?
[11:29] <PriitM> it appears in some website counters too and starts with g or c I belive
[11:29] <ogre> ikonia:  something virtualbox installed removed the linux-rest.... package i think i just need the name of the packages i need. anyway to remove restricted drivers????
[11:29] <ikonia> ogre yes, use the package manager to remove them.
[11:29] <bert__> it has something to do with the gecko kit but I'm not sure how the package is called PriitM
[11:30] <ogre> ikonia:  what do i remove?
[11:30] <pajamian> ogre: if it removed the files but the package still shows as installed then maybe you just need to re-install the package to put the files back.
[11:30] <ikonia> ogre: I don't know - thats why I'm asking what you've changed
[11:31] <ogre> dang this is just going around in circles
[11:31] <pele1> ikonia: rebooted; I have the device again in network manager, roaming mode enabled, status: disconnected
[11:32] <ikonia> pele1 just a minute, I just need to finish something
[11:32] <ogre> what i need is someone with ipw3945 to tell me which linux-restricted-modules packages they have installed. thats it
[11:32] <pele1> ikonia: take your time!
[11:32] <ikonia> ogre no you don't - thats not what you need. you need to know what virtualbox changed
[11:32] <PriitM> bert__, that's correct, thanks
[11:32] <ogre> ikonia:  how do i figure that out?
[11:33] <ikonia> ogre you pay attention when you're doing things
[11:34] <ogre> ikonia:  well it installed several things. i cant remember all that stuff. if i can get rid of drivers when i reboot it will say i need blah blah blah to get it running
[11:35] <ikonia> ogre then do that as "blah blah blah" doesn't help anyone
[11:36] <ogre> blahblahblah is what i need to know. thats the package im looking for
[11:36] <markushebel> hallo
[11:36] <Imaginal> !blah
[11:36] <markushebel> hello
[11:36] <ikonia> ogre thats not what you need to know - you need to know what virtual box changed
[11:36] <pajamian> ogre: if all you want is to know which package provides ipw3945 then install the apt-file package and use the apt-file command to find out (man apt-file)
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <ogre> ikonia:  well how the heck do i figure that out?
[11:37] <kaushal> hi
[11:38] <kaushal> I have ADSL Connection
[11:38] <kaushal> ADSL over PPPOE
[11:38] <kaushal> I have used sudo pppoeconf
[11:38] <paladin_> My hda has two partitions, however hda2 is not listed under /dev... what's wrong?
[11:39] <ikonia> ogre you pay attention when your installing something to what is going on
[11:39] <kaushal> and it has generated pppoe_on_boot script and when i do ps -aef | grep pppd it shows the process but when i browse i get page not displayed
[11:39] <ikonia> ogre: you could also list to us what restricted drivers you currently have installed
[11:39] <kaushal> to rectify it i do sudo killall pppd
[11:39] <ikonia> pele1: not fogot about you - I just need to complete this bug report properly
[11:39] <kaushal> and then do sudo pon dsl-provider again
[11:40] <kaushal> this time it works
[11:40] <kaushal> how can i fix this issue
[11:40] <ogre> ikonia:  lucent/agere linmodem controller driver is installed and ipw3945 driver thats it
[11:40] <pele1> ikonia: thanks
[11:41] <ikonia> ogre so if you have the ipw3945 and you want to use an ipw3945 - don't you think it's more than the driver being a problem ?
[11:41] <mattycoze> hey guys, i need some help installing ubuntu
[11:42] <ogre> ikonia:  I DO want to use ipw3945. are you messing with me?
[11:42] <paladin_> My hda has two partitions, I used to have both /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 files, but recently /dev/hda2 has disappeared... what's wrong?
[11:42] <mattycoze> I'm running suse at the moment but I don't want to completely wipe the hard drive, i was wondering if there was a clever way of simply loading up the ubuntu OS as an option on startup
[11:42] <mattycoze> perhaps making it default also...
[11:42] <ikonia> ogre: no your missing the point - you want to use the ipw3945 and you have the driver installed - do you not think it's not a dirver problem
[11:42] <ikonia> mattycoze install along side susze on a sepearte partition
[11:42] <ikonia> mattycoze: then manage your OS's through the grub menu.lst
[11:43] <ogre> ikonia:  well what can i do to fix it?
[11:43] <ikonia> ogre: start giving info
[11:43] <ogre> ikonia:  ive given all the info i have
[11:43] <ikonia> ogre: no you've not 1.) version and arch for ubuntu your using 2.) exact error complaint 3.) what virtual box did
[11:44] <mattycoze> ahh i see, why bother with separate partitions, i want to access the same files frome ither distro.
[11:44] <mattycoze> @ ikonia
[11:44] <ikonia> mattycoze: thats fine, same thing just have a shared disk that both distro's can access
[11:45] <neeto> I want to see who else is connected to the server in my dorms, the server is http://yos2-3-4.reshall.calpoly.edu/, is there a way to probe for connections?
[11:45] <mattycoze> hmm, sounds kinda tricky - walk me through?
[11:45] <ikonia> pele1 where have you gone ?
[11:45] <ogre> ikonia:  1.gutsy x86 2. wireless not working for ipw3945 3. no clue and i never will until someone tells me how to figure out what it installed
[11:46] <peleg> ikonia: I'm here
[11:46] <peleg> (maybe as "peleg"?)
[11:46] <ikonia> mattycoze: walk you through ??? you have an existing partition, create another one for ubuntu to be installed on, create another partition for both ubunttu and suse to use / share
[11:46] <Frogzoo> neeto: if you have a shell, 'who'
[11:46] <ikonia> ogre: define not working, interface not there, won't start, what error ?
[11:46] <ikonia> peleg: ahh ok so where are we up to
[11:46] <mattycoze> alright i'll back up things first brb ikonia
[11:46] <neeto> Frogzoo: thanks
[11:47] <ikonia> mattycoze: wise move, well done
[11:47] <peleg> ikonia: rebooted, have eth1 visible, roaming mode enabled in network manager, status: disconnected
[11:47] <ikonia> peleg: ok - so thats a start.
[11:47] <ikonia> peleg: now your card is visable
[11:47] <peleg> ikonia: true. now - should we edit interfaces file?
[11:48] <kennyyu> hi all, I've just tried to boot into Ubuntu with the following errors: "Unable to mount root fs ..." do you know why?
[11:48] <ikonia> peleg: so how do you want to proceed do you want to get it working first, then we'll make it perm
[11:48] <ogre> ikonia:  i can only see my wired device. driver appears to be there but restricted drivers says its not in use.  thats all i know
[11:48] <ikonia> kennyyu: can't see your disk for some reaon
[11:48] <ikonia> ogre: ok so it's not in use - enable it
[11:48] <dgjones> !samba > dgjones
[11:48] <peleg> ikonia: I trust your opinion about it. I WOULD like to understand what I'm doing, so I'll be able to solve it another time, or help others.
[11:49] <ogre> ikonia:  how?
[11:49] <ikonia> peleg: thats ok - we'll go through it step by step
[11:49] <ikonia> ogre: restricted drivers manager ?
[11:49] <kennyyu> ikonia: I don't know either, but actually I just allowed it to do auto-updating... and it seemed to me that my network connection has some problem at that moment, so I manually ctrl+c the updating process...
[11:49] <ikonia> peleg: ok - so tell me about your network, its secured using wpa and it's broadcasting a sid yes/no ?
[11:49] <ogre> ikonia:  im there. now what?
[11:50] <paladin_> My hda has two partitions, I used to have both /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 files, but recently /dev/hda2 has disappeared... what's wrong?
[11:50] <ikonia> kennyyu: so you've interupted an update in the middoe
[11:50] <ikonia> middle
[11:50] <kennyyu> ikonia: ya, maybe.
[11:50] <ikonia> kennyyu: what do you mean maybe, you did - or you didn't
[11:50] <jpatrick> !aptfix | kennyyu
[11:50] <ubotu> kennyyu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:50] <doppelgaenger> Is anyone running KDE4 on Feisty and give feedback ?
[11:51] <kennyyu> ikonia: sorry, I did. But I just aren't sure what was the exact effect of my ctrl+c...
[11:51] <jpatrick> !kde4 | doppelgaenger
[11:51] <ubotu> doppelgaenger: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:51] <unicum> for vieowport positioning.. is it the same identification rules like in extra window rulez (compiz fusion)??
[11:51] <ikonia> kennyyu: right I'd suggest you simpley re-install using the latest CD rather than try to fix an unbootable system that was killed in the middle of an upgrade.
[11:51] <doppelgaenger> jpatrick, Tahanks
[11:51] <peleg> ikonia: wpa2, I don't know about sid
[11:52] <peleg> ikonia: but I can reconfigure it - I have access to the router
[11:52] <ikonia> peleg: ok - so first things first, I suggest you try to configure it using the network admin gui - just to get it working and confirm there isn o problem
[11:52] <kennyyu> ikonia: ic... :-(
[11:52] <peleg> ikonia: sure
[11:52] <kennyyu> iknoia: thanks
[11:52] <ogre> ikonia:  heres a screenshot http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3572/screenshotpd5.png
[11:53] <peleg> ikonia: now it is on "enable roaming mode"
[11:53] <ikonia> ogre: ahhh I see, it's enabled but not in use
[11:53] <uptownben> Can anyone help me out setting up vim plugins?
[11:53] <ikonia> peleg: is it working ?
[11:53] <ogre> ikonia:  yes
[11:53] <peleg> ikonia: couldn't understand "roaming" - does it mean that he looks for a network alone? automatically?
[11:53] <ikonia> peleg: great summary
[11:53] <peleg> ikonia: define "working"
[11:53] <ikonia> ogre: what I would guess (and this is just a guess) blackbox did is blacklist that module
[11:53] <ikonia> peleg: connected to the internet ?
[11:54] <peleg> ikonia: no.
[11:54] <uptownben> i see my plugins got installed to /etc/vim... but I dont see that they are working, how can I check?
[11:54] <ikonia> peleg: ok - whats the status
[11:54] <ogre> ikonia:  i think it may have something to do with lucent/agere  driver
[11:54] <ikonia> ogre: why do you think that ?
[11:54] <ogre> ikonia:  so how would i fix it?
[11:54] <ogre> ikonia:  isnt that another wireless driver?
[11:54] <ikonia> ogre: why do you think it has something to do with lucent
[11:55] <ikonia> ogre: it says in the drive manager "win modem"
[11:55] <peleg> ikonia: in "support" tab: address 169.254.8.124 (not good, I guess), broadcast 169.254.255.255, subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
[11:55] <ikonia> peleg: so your setting a static IP ?
[11:55] <peleg> ikonia: status disconnected
[11:55] <ikonia> peleg: ok - drop out of roaming mode and maunally input your settings (sid/WPA key etc)
[11:55] <ogre> ikonia:  it says lin modem
[11:55] <ikonia> ogre: so it's a "modem"
[11:56] <ndo> guys, how do i change nvidea settings from cli?
[11:56] <ogre> well that is completely disabled and im still on a wire connection
[11:56] <peleg> ikonia: did it. had "changing configuration" window for a minute. status still disconnected
[11:56] <ikonia> ogre: I would guess that blackbox has blacklisted the driver
[11:56] <ali1234> ndo: nvidia-settings --help
[11:57] <ndo> alil234: ty
[11:57] <ikonia> peleg: ok, so still not connected
[11:57] <peleg> ikonia: I chose WEP key (ascii)
[11:57] <ogre> ikonia:  i may have got it. bbiam
[11:57] <ikonia> peleg: are you using WEP encyption - I thought you wher eusing WPA2
[11:57] <peleg> ikonia: and put my password in pure ascii...
[11:57] <ikonia> peleg: wep is not WPA2
[11:57] <peleg> ikonia: I am. but I can't choose WPA2 in the network manager
[11:57] <ikonia> peleg: this is an intel card isn't it ?
[11:58] <peleg> ikonia: yes, intel
[11:58] <ikonia> peleg: there is a bug (I logged it) that not all encyption methods show up for intel cards in that gui
[11:58] <ikonia> peleg: you'll have to set it manually using iwconfig
[11:58] <peleg> ikonia: ok then. How?
[11:58] <ndo> alil234: i get "gtk-warning **: cannot open display" respond
[11:59] <quik_> hey folks
[11:59] <ikonia> peleg: I don't have a box with a wirless card infront of my, but bassiclly, you need to set it up with iwconfig eth1 ESSID=mysid encypiton=WPA2 key=blah etc etc. peleg man iwconfig should explain it
[11:59] <ali1234> ndo: you can't change the settings if you dont have access to the display
[11:59] <quik_> I have an ubuntu box that downloads torrents all day and night.. I want to apply some rules about when it can download or even tweak the max speed.
[11:59] <peleg> ikonia: I check, thanks.
[11:59] <quik_> how can I achieve this?
[12:00] <ali1234> ndo: you could just edit the nvidia-settings configuration file, if X is not running
[12:00] <ikonia> quik_ quos
[12:00] <ndo> alil234: thats what im searching for, i guess :)
[12:00] <BlueEyes_Jhb> hi, who can tell me what the best mail client is to use for exchange server ?
[12:00] <ikonia> evolution is the only real option
[12:00] <ndo> alil234: but, as i expect its not the xorg.conf one , right?
[12:00] <ogre_> no luck :/
[12:01] <ikonia> ogre: what where you trying ?
[12:01] <ali1234> ndo: ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[12:01] <BlueEyes_Jhb> ikonia: k thanks, thought so
[12:01] <ndo> alil234:  hmm, ok, ty
[12:01] <delor> What does spell check in every input field in Ubuntu I would like to implement it into my ArchLinux?
[12:01] <Seeker`> is packages.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[12:01] <peleg> ikonia: can I run man pages in GNOME and not in the terminal?
[12:01] <ogre_> ikonia:  i clicked the enabled box and it said i needed to restart. i thought it would work
[12:02] <ikonia> peleg: there is "xman" I think
[12:02] <ikonia> ogre_: ahh, I think it's black listed to be honest
[12:02] <quik_> ikonia: is there anything that gives you a simple control mechanism to do this?
[12:02] <ogre_> ikonia:  how do i fix that?
[12:02] <ikonia> quik_: qos is the best tool, I don't have much info on it, as I set it up ages ago and have not touched it since
[12:02] <ndo> alil234:  euhm, its in root dir, right?
[12:02] <ikonia> !blacklist | ogre_
[12:02] <ubotu> ogre_: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[12:03] <ali1234> ndo: no, it's per-user
[12:03] <LuCkY^LukE> help me please
[12:03] <ndo> alil234:  ahh, oke, wast sure, was it root or usr :)
[12:03] <LuCkY^LukE> how tu turn off auto connect in XChat?
[12:03] <LuCkY^LukE> how to turn off auto connect in XChat?
[12:04] <jpatrick> !repeat | LuCkY^LukE
[12:04] <ubotu> LuCkY^LukE: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:04] <quik_> ikonia: qos isn't in apt?
[12:04] <ikonia> quik_: it's not a package it's a kernel module, I controlled it through iptables
[12:04] <quik_> oh. I was hoping for a binary package to manage it :P
[12:05] <pajamian> LuCkY^LukE: go into the network list and edit the network that you're auto-connecting to, there's a checkbox for it.
[12:05] <LuCkY^LukE> pajamian: ok thanks
[12:06] <ogre_> ikonia: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist ??
[12:06] <ali1234> how can i start a shell on a serial port without requiring login?
[12:07] <r45c41> guys i need a help
[12:07] <r45c41> i am trying to run a perl file but i am getting this error
[12:07] <peleg> ikonia: I can't figure out what argument to give to "enc" property in iwconfig
[12:07] <r45c41> r45c4l@r45c4l-desktop:~/Desktop$ ./test.pl
[12:07] <r45c41> bash: ./test.pl: usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[12:07] <r45c41> can any one help plz
[12:07] <peleg> ikonia: "WPA2" wouldn't work.
[12:07] <ndo> alil234:  hmm, couuld it be i dont have this file? ive just tryed "sudo nano nvidia-settings-rc" and ivegot new file
[12:08] <ali1234> r45c41: maybe you meant /usr/bin/perl
[12:08] <ali1234> ndo: it starts with .
[12:08] <ali1234> ndo: also, you dont need sudo to edit it
[12:08] <r45c41> ali1234: n
[12:08] <pajamian> r45c41: dos2unix test.pl
[12:08] <r45c41> ali1234: i save it on deskotp as test.pl
[12:08] <r45c41> ok
[12:09] <ndo> alil234:  euhm, oke, ill try :) ty
[12:09] <r45c41> ali1234: ok
[12:09] <Liquid2> i have raid 5 + windows vista on my pc.. now i also want to install ubuntu 7.10 but when i insert the cd it asks my on which of my 3 hdds i want to install ubuntu. oO Its raid5... how can i say ubuntu that I have raid 5 before i installed it?
[12:09] <peleg> ikonia, are you still there?
[12:10] <ali1234> r45c41: the script is looking for usr/bin/perl which is relative path, you need absolute path (assuming you copied the error correctly). edit the first line. also use dos2unix to get rid of the ^M
[12:10] <Liquid2> i have raid 5 + windows vista on my pc.. now i also want to install ubuntu 7.10 but when i insert the cd it asks my on which of my 3 hdds i want to install ubuntu. oO Its raid5... how can i say ubuntu that I have raid 5 before i installed it?
[12:10] <ogre_> !repeat | Liquid2
[12:10] <ubotu> Liquid2: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:10] <ndo> alil234:  same result
[12:11] <ali1234> ndo: have you ever run nvidia-settings before? you have to run it once to create the file
[12:11] <Liquid2> can anybody help me?
[12:11] <ali1234> ndo: if your X is not working at all, nvidia-settings will not help you
[12:11] <pajamian> Liquid2: just at a guess the alternate install cd may work better for you.
[12:11] <Liquid2> no
[12:11] <ali1234> ndo: you probably have to hit "save" as well
[12:11] <void^> !fakeraid | Liquid2
[12:11] <ubotu> Liquid2: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[12:12] <ndo> alil234:  maybe, its good if i explain the situation a littlebit :)
[12:12] <Liquid2> void^: but they only explain it how you install it if you have ubuntu already installed
[12:12] <paladin_> My hda has two partitions, I used to have both /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 files, but recently /dev/hda2 has disappeared... what's wrong?
[12:12] <Frogzoo> ali1234: look in /etc/event.d/tty*
[12:13] <pajamian> Liquid2: hw or sw raid?
[12:13] <void^> Liquid2: the last link appears to have a section about installing on fakeraid.
[12:13] <ogre_> anybody have ipw3945 0n gutsy?
[12:13] <Liquid2> ehm.. i think software raid because i have a onboard raid controller on my msi p35 platinum mobo
[12:14] <ali1234> Frogzoo: i don't want to start it from init/getty - i want to start it as normal user, and get a shell where X works
[12:14] <pajamian> you have a raid controller but you think it's a sw raid?
[12:14] <Liquid2> its onboard^^
[12:14] <Liquid2> mom i will google it
[12:14] <r45c41> ali1234: i installed tofrodos and after that i gave the command dos2unix test.pl
[12:15] <pajamian> ok, well, yeah, google it, heh, I can't help you, sorry.
[12:15] <Liquid2> why?
[12:15] <r45c41> ali1234:r45c4l@r45c4l-desktop:~/Desktop$ dos2unix test.pl
[12:15] <r45c41> r45c4l@r45c4l-desktop:~/Desktop$
[12:15] <Liquid2> pajamian: why?
[12:15] <void^> if it's possible to access single disks it's fake/sw-raid.
[12:15] <r45c41> but still the prog is not running
[12:15] <pajamian> Liquid2: because I simply don't know the answer.
[12:15] <ali1234> r45c41: that only converts the file's line endings from dos format to unix format
[12:15] <ndo> alil234:  ive installed 7,10, then installed restricted driver, then runned Envy, and after a reboot, i get a flickering screen, i know where the problem is, its the refresh rate of the monitor, it is a Tulip 15" vga 50Hz, and as far as i know setting is something like 60 or 70Hz, so i have to change this to 50Hz. But how do i do it from cli, its still a question forme. I have alredy learned how to change it in xorg.conf, but what to do for nvidia, i dunno
[12:15] <Liquid2> of what? how to install ubuntu on a raid system?
[12:16] <pajamian> Liquid2: yep.
[12:16] <r45c41> ali1234: r45c4l@r45c4l-desktop:~/Desktop$ ./test.pl
[12:16] <r45c41> bash: ./test.pl: usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[12:16] <Liquid2> okay
[12:16] <ali1234> r45c41: so, edit the first line of the script and put / before usr/bin/perl
[12:17] <r45c41> ali1234: plz consider i am just using linux from past 2 weeks
[12:17] <r45c41> ali1234 : ok
[12:17] <pajamian> Liquid2: I'm sure it can be done, the only thing I would worry about is if you have some sort of prorprietary windows sw raid that ubuntu can't recognize or read.
[12:17] <avis> ndo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you know what you are doing
[12:17] <seeitcoming>  I'm trying to debug errors with how nautilus draws background patterns --- where is the code that chooses which portion of the image to draw? I've chased the code from nautilus to nautilus-private to libeel and figured it might be quicker to just ask someone..
[12:17] <Liquid2> im not sure if its software raid
[12:18] <ogre_> bah screw this. ill reinstall
[12:18] <Liquid2> i have a onboard raidcontroller on my mono
[12:18] <delor> What does spell check in input field in XChat? I would like to implement it into my ArchLinux.
[12:18] <Liquid2> and it works also only with the bios.. so without windows
[12:18] <pajamian> my understanding is that HW raid controllers show up as a single drive to the OS so ubuntu should just work if it's hw raid, but I may be wrong
[12:18] <r45c41> ali1234: thanks man my prog worked,
[12:18] <Liquid2> in windows i only have one drive
[12:18] <r45c41> ali1234 : thanks a lot :)
[12:19] <ali1234> ndo: if you don't have the nvidia-settings file, it's not going to make any difference. just fix it in the xorg.conf
[12:19] <Tonren> Can I use vncviewer to attach to an already-running X session?
[12:19] <ndo> avis: ive alredy tryed it, even with "-phigh" but it doesnt help. its nvidia settings that i need to change, not xorg, right?
[12:19] <danielski_pl> yes!, i finally fixed the low graphics gdm start prob (was about to go back to windows nearly gave up)
[12:19] <Frogzoo> pajamian: depends on the raid card
[12:19] <pajamian> Liquid2: I'm really only guessing here, though, Frogzoo yep, you probably know more about it than me.
[12:19] <Yaron> need some help with switching locale in client mode (text mode), can anyone help please?
[12:19] <ndo> alil234:  hmm, oke, then i try reconfiure agane
[12:20] <ali1234> ndo: did it work before you ran envy?
[12:20] <danielski_pl> does anyone know how to fix distortian in mp3/ogg?
[12:20] <Yaron> I can only type in English while I press the Alt Key, dapper drake server installed
[12:20] <Nagato> is there a program i can use to convert a sjis document to utf8?
[12:21] <pajamian> Yaron: Audacity has some pretty good filters to fix various problems.
[12:21] <Yaron> danielski_pl: does this happen with all your files or just some specific files?
[12:22] <Yaron> pajamian: Im terribly sorry if I hurt you in person, that's not what I meant...
[12:22] <pajamian> oops, I meant that for danielski_pl
[12:22] <pajamian> Yaron: sorry, meant that for danielski_pl
[12:22] <ndo> yes, but i had a 640*480 resolution, wiht 50Hz refresh rate, and i didnt knew how to change it to 1024*768, and let it stay 50Hz, so i tough ok i try Envy, reboot and i get fliskering screen. i can see mouse moving and so. but wrong refresh rate wont let my monitor  display it properly
[12:22] <Yaron> Audacity is another word for arogance... it seems like you were offended...
[12:23] <pajamian> Yaron: nope, I w2as referring the the audacity sound editing program.
[12:23] <Yaron> LOL... got it...
[12:23] <Yaron> Are you familiar with my problem?
[12:24] <danielski_pl> Yaron: all files
[12:24] <pajamian> Yaron: sorry, no :-(
[12:24] <ali1234> danielski_pl: if it is distorting at high volume levels, try turning down the master mixer and turning up pcm, or the reverse
[12:24] <danielski_pl> i fixed one problem and another arised lol
[12:24] <ndo> oke, just runned "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" chosed...
[12:25] <ndo> ohhh it works !!! Halleluyah :D
[12:25] <danielski_pl> alile234: is there any way i can install windows sound drivers on ubuntu?
[12:25] <ali1234> danielski_pl: no
[12:25] <Yaron> no, better search for a linux version at the vendor's website
[12:25] <ndo> ty guys :) this is the best channel ive been on :)  <3 Ubuntu ! :D
[12:26] <danielski_pl> alil234:, Yaron: its AC97 Audio
[12:26] <ali1234> danielski_pl: it should "just work" indeed if you get any sound at all, then it seems like it is working. what program are you using to play the files?
[12:27] <Yaron> Im not familiar with the motherboard vendors and their support in linux...
[12:27] <danielski_pl> alil234: mainly VLC, sometimes Xine
[12:28] <danielski_pl> distorts in both
[12:28] <pajamian> danielski_pl: nvidia?
[12:28] <Yaron> Anyone here familiar with console based problems?
[12:28] <ali1234> danielski_pl: exactly what kind of distortion is it? clipping, or stuttering, or?
[12:29] <ali1234> danielski_pl: does it get worse if you "do stuff" with the computer, or is it constant?
[12:29] <Yaron> what if I change the locale at the GRUB screen, I mean like editing the stratup lines? usually there's a locale switch there...
[12:30] <danielski_pl> alil234 gets worse when i use the comp definetely
[12:30] <danielski_pl> it shouldnt though as i got 3 gb ram lol
[12:30] <kaushal> hi again
[12:30] <danielski_pl> alil234 and it stutters
[12:30] <kaushal> any ideas
[12:30] <kaushal> to my issue
[12:31] <ali1234> danielski_pl: i remember years and years ago having to change pci latency in the bios when that happened
[12:31] <kaushal> I have installed the e1000 module, I am able to connect to the internet only when i do the sudo killall pppd and then do sudo pon dsl-provider. Every now and then i have to do this for connecting to the Internet. I have configured ADSL over PPPOE using sudo pppoeconf and it has created pppoe_on_boot script also but I am unable to connect to the internet
[12:32] <ali1234> danielski_pl: that probably isn;t applicable on recent pcs though
[12:32] <kaushal> Again i have to do the sudo killall pppd and then do sudo pon dsl-provider to connect to the internet and then it works fine. Also NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4 keeps on rotating to get the network address
[12:32] <JoshSN> update-grub is producing two sets of entries for my 2.6.23, and the first "(Default)" set is ignoring the initrd line.
[12:33] <pajamian> hello again JoshSN
[12:33] <pajamian> JoshSN: what about the 2nd set?  does it work when you select that?
[12:33] <JoshSN> HI pajamian, it turns out I was missing something before. My old kernels were there, but there are these new entries.
[12:33] <JoshSN> pajamian, yup. Works fine.
[12:33] <JoshSN> But update-grub keeps producing the extra ones, so the default points to something broken.
[12:33] <danielski_pl> alil234 how do i install alsamixer command line (cbf opening SPM)
[12:34] <pajamian> JoshSN: ok, the 2nd set is not he recovery one, right?
[12:34] <kaushal> pajamian: hi
[12:34] <ali1234> danielski_pl: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[12:34] <pajamian> hello kaushal
[12:34] <JoshSN> pajamian, no, not the recovery. each set is two entries, one normal, one recovery. the first set looks almost identical, just has the word (Default) next to it and no initrd line
[12:35] <JoshSN> looks almost identical to the working one
[12:35] <pajamian> JoshSN: then just remove the first set and set the second set to default.
[12:35] <JoshSN> Wouldn't I then have to run update-grub?
[12:35] <JoshSN> Rather, if update-grub is producing bad results now, won't it repeat that error, the next time there is a kernel upgrade?
[12:36] <danielski_pl> alil234: sweet thanx fixed my prob, the master level was set too high
[12:36] <corporal_clegg> any developer of linux-backport-modules?
[12:36] <pajamian> JoshSN: maybe, I think the upgrade uses commented lines from menu.lst, you may be able to change what upgrade does by changing those commented lines
[12:37] <imagine> I'm ghaving an issue with mount.fuse when I add my sshfs# line to /etc/fstab ad I try to mount it it says: Connection Reset by peer... I don't undertsand as if I use sshfs manually it mounts withtout any problem
[12:38] <danielski_pl> where can i get a desktop sidebar that displays, CPU temp, Fans, Audio playing. news reader etc...????
[12:39] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[12:39] <JoshSN> danielski_pl, gkrellm is one such thing
[12:40] <Aquahallic> Can anyone remember off the top of thier head how to get those drive icons off the desktop??
 thanx :P
[12:40] <variant_> Aquahallic: gconf
[12:40] <variant_> Aquahallic: gconf-editor
[12:40] <kasina> hi
[12:40] <Aquahallic> any idea where?
[12:41] <SleepingSloth> i have just purged and re-installed firefox, but i am unable to install extensions - i am getting an 'unexpected installation error' on any theme or extension i attempt to install.... can anyone help with that?
[12:41] <variant_> search nautilus
[12:41] <kasina> I'm trying to connect to msn via ubuntu but can't. Any ideas why its unable to connect
[12:41] <kasina> Im using pidgin
[12:41] <variant_> SleepingSloth: did you rm .mozilla?
[12:41] <JoshSN> danielski_pl, sadly, gkrellm2 isn't in gutsy. It's nicer, although had fewer plugins when I last checked it out
[12:41] <danielski_pl> kasina have u tried aMSN?
[12:41] <SleepingSloth> variant_,  no, i apt-get remove --purge firefox. would that not remove .mozilla?
[12:42] <variant_> kasina: probably your using the wrong username or pass
[12:42] <kasina> danielski_pl: yes but it kinda hangs
[12:42] <hever_> Hi I'm on an iBook. My system hang around in the startup screen and stops then booting. On a shell (initramfs) I must enter modprobe ide-core and exit on every system startup. What can I do that I must not enter this commands on every startup? I tried to put them in /etc/modules but I think these modlues are loaded much later. Perhaps its some config in yaboot ???
[12:42] <Aquahallic> variant_:  Thanks... Found it..:)
[12:42] <variant_> SleepingSloth: not as far as i'm aware. manually rm -rf it
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> the apt-get system will NOT remove the users config files..
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> That could be.. very bad if it did. :)
[12:42] <hever_> Can I tell it through yaboot it should load ide-core ???
[12:42] <ali1234> kasina: maybe your isp is blocking it?
[12:43] <SleepingSloth> variant_, Dr_Willis - thanks - (i thought that was the purpose of purge though- my mistake) ... i'll give it a go
[12:43] <kasina> ali1234: Iv just installed Ubuntu. Its was able to access on Windows
[12:43] <pajamian> JoshSN: I think your menu.lst is messed up, that file controls what happens when update-grub is run.  I'm guessing that when you changed from using a separate /boot partiton to just using the root partition for grub that you fixed menu.lst to work then, but you didn't change it to work properly after update-grub was run, so update-grub still thinks (to some weird extent) than you have a seperate /boot partiton that it's supposed to use.
[12:43] <pajamian>   Does that make sense?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  purge just gets the system confugs, you could make a new user and see if it works for them properly.
 gkrellm is exactly what i was lookin for, ur a legend.
[12:44] <JoshSN> pajamian, nope. I had to run update-grub (and grub-install) after I moved the /boot partition
[12:44] <JoshSN> danielski_pl, glad to help
[12:44] <pajamian> JoshSN: oh well, there goes that theory, then ;-)
[12:45] <ali1234> kasina: all i can say is "it works for me"
[12:45] <pbne04> hey..can anyone tell me what the default password for root is on a fresh ubuntu installation?
[12:45] <pajamian> JoshSN: still, though, that's got to be the source of your problem.
[12:45] <Pici> !root | pbne04
[12:45] <ali1234> pbne04: no, because it is randomized
[12:45] <ubotu> pbne04: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> its not even randomzed. :) its non-existant
[12:45] <hever_> How can I do modprobe ide-core through yaboot on system startup ?
[12:46] <SleepingSloth> Dr_Willis, no joy with removing .mozilla. when you say make a new user - how should i go about doing that?
[12:46] <pbne04> well I just tried a command using sudo and got the "permission denied" message
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  adduser, or useradd whoever
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> with a sudo, or use the gui tools for user admin
[12:46] <pajamian> pbne04: you can get a root shell with: sudo su -
[12:46] <JoshSN> pajamian, I agree :)
[12:47] <JoshSN> pajamian, at least, I think it is by far the most likely explanatino
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  thers also  extensions that can get isntalled system wide.  if you use the firefox->tools->get-addons->get ubuntu extensions.. item.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  those are for every user. Which is a little odd. :)
[12:47] <pajamian> JoshSN: my best advice is to back up that file now, make sure you have a workable recovery disk that you can use to restore it, and then start playign with it and running update-grub to see what happens.
[12:48] <SleepingSloth> Dr_Willis, what, you mean add a whole new user... so i'd have to log out of x and back in as said new user?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  basicially, thee is a way to spawn a new X session and you can login ias that user on that X session. Check the menus.
[12:49] <pbne04> thanks, using sudo su
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  click on the little green man at top right and use the switch-user  feature after adding a new user. a
[12:50] <Industrial> Question: Can I easily uninstall everything gnome from ubuntu? all artwork and themes and windowmanager and apps and compiz etc. I want to use the windowmanager wmii instead, and if some app will need a gtk lib then apt-get will install that later right?
[12:50] <JoshSN> pajamian, solved :)
[12:50] <Industrial> or should I just install debian in that case (in which case i'd prefer some other distro instead anyway)
[12:51] <Codenut> Heh all
[12:51] <pajamian> JoshSN: cool
[12:51] <pajamian> brb
[12:51] <pinoyskull> can i run 2 instances of bind in a server? acting as a primary and secondary dns?
[12:51] <JoshSN> pajamian, there was a symlink created in /boot from vmlinuz to vmlinuz-2.6.23, grub was finding "both" kernels and creating entries for both, there was only one initrd, though
[12:52] <JoshSN> Ciao, all
[12:53] <SeJo> hey everytime i try to connect to a nfs server i get this: failed, security flavor not supported
[12:54] <yoddabyte> hey guys looking for Wolfenstein for linux found what i think it is and its a .x86 file what do i do with that?
[12:54] <SeJo> rpc.idmapd and /usr/sbin/rpc.gssd running
[12:54] <Codenut> How do I export my mail to save include I crash my ubuntu system and need to recover?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Industrial,  you could do a server install if you want a minimal system
[12:55] <Industrial> whats the difference?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> server is minimal. :)
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> install what you want. No x by default, no extra stuff.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> There may be some alternative minimal ubuntu variants out also.
[12:56] <Industrial> ah k
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if there will ever be a matchbox-desktop meta package. :)
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !find matchbox
[12:57] <ubotu> Found: libmatchbox-dev, libmatchbox1, matchbox, matchbox-common, matchbox-desktop (and 6 others)
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Guess there is! :)
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Heh the complete matchbox desktop - 120K
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> wmii 139K, jwm 95k
[12:59] <fredrik>  /msg ubotu flashissues
[12:59] <Industrial> :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Heh - remove the space. :)
[13:00] <Industrial> I like wmii's taggins instead of workspaces
[13:00] <nives1> anyone using an asus notebook (preferably A3 series) and knows how i can adjust fan speed ? (lm-sensors seems not to recognize its smbus)
[13:00] <Industrial> dont know matchbox (yet)
[13:00] <SleepingSloth> Dr_Willis, okay, that seems to have solved the problem altogether. random.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  i would guess thers some user setting that  is goofing things up in the first user. You could just start cleaning out all the settings. :)  No idea what ones however.
[13:01] <Industrial> installing it all :p
[13:01] <SleepingSloth> Dr_Willis, yeah.... it works, i may remove the user and see what result that has, but i'm not too fussed...
[13:02] <xal2> Hi
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  DONT remove your first user.  you will not be able to sudo with the 2nd user.
[13:02] <xal2> I just tried playing Tuxracer under Ubuntu and the game seems very laggy, as in a low framerate. Is there something I need to enable to make it run more smoothly?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> unless you enable that of course. :)
[13:02] <wil> I have tried to run the updater, but it says that I am using a unsupported version (5.10), but on the website, it said that it should be possible for me to update to 6.06 and gradually get to the latest version.... how can I upgrade to 6.06 without a cd?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> xal2,  you installed the 3d video card drivers for your video card? (what is your video card?)
[13:03] <xal2> I have an Nvidia 7900GTO
[13:03] <xal2> I installed the Nvidia drivers from their website.
[13:04] <SleepingSloth> Dr_Willis, no, i didnt mean remove the first one, i meant remove the second one that i just created
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> SleepingSloth,  ok. :) thats safe.
[13:05] <peleg> hey buddies: ikonia started to help me changing the mod of an intel wifi card through iwconfig to WPA2, and then he left for lunch (almost an hour ago) - maybe one of you can help me instead to finish the process? I looked at the man pages and couldn't figure it out alone..
[13:05] <peleg> fix: not the "mod", the "encryption"
[13:05] <wil> argh, no one can help me... ive been trying all morning :(
[13:05] <wil> I have tried to run the updater, but it says that I am using a unsupported version (5.10), but on the website, it said that it should be possible for me to update to 6.06 and gradually get to the latest version.... how can I upgrade to 6.06 without a cd?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !update
[13:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> wil,  thats getting so old.. I would be scared to do incremental updates.
[13:06] <Frogzoo> wil: wouldn't clean gutsy install be less trouble?
[13:06] <Tonren> Can I use vncviewer to attach to an already-running X session?
[13:07] <xal2> Dr_Willis, there used to be settings in x.org that are no longer available. (This was in Ubuntu 6.10). I haven't seen them in the latest version of Ubuntu.
[13:07] <wil> yeah, it would be easier, but I am having a lot of trouble with writing cds at the moment
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  not really. - vncviewer connects to a vncserver. there ARE vncservers that share the current  X desktop - if you enable them. Gnome has vino i think
[13:08] <wil> and, this is not my main machine, I am just trying out linux and ubuntu to see some features and stuff..... I would do a fresh install if this was a machine I would be using every day
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  ive found vino and sharing the current desktop to be a bit slow/sluggish.
[13:08] <peleg> one more try: does anyone knows how to configure  eth1 to WPA2 encryption using iwconfig?
[13:08] <wil> I am evaluating for a business and I just want to get the latest version + wine to see if it can run out ERP app... if it can, I think we will be switching from windows
[13:08] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Hmm... then, how do I kill an X session gracefully from the terminal?
[13:09] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: That is, as if I'd hit "Log Out" and all my applications closed gracefully.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  Hmm.  Not sure :)
[13:09] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Nuts!  :-P
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> some of the window managers ive seen have exit/logout scripting type features.. but it depends on the desktop/wm  i guess
[13:09] <rx> hi
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> No idea if gnome has a feature like that
[13:09] <Tonren> I'm in KDE, actually.
[13:10] <rx> is it possible to install gutsy with feisty cd? of course it would download all files from the internet.
[13:10] <brambo> does anyone know a good site where i can get  .deb applications directly that work with AMD64 Ubuntu? thank u
[13:10] <ali1234> Tonren: dbus maybe
[13:10] <brambo> cuz i keep getting wrong ones, for i386 n etc
[13:10] <danielski_pl> brambo google "getdeb"
[13:11] <erawfish> brambo: ubuntu.com
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> kde has so many sort-of-hidden-obscure commands its proberly doable. :)
[13:11] <erawfish> brambo: you#re supposed to install stuff via synaptic
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Yes - its best to use synaptic, not manually downloading of .debs
[13:11] <danielski_pl> !getdeb
[13:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:11] <brambo> does getdeb.net specify if its amd64 capable?
[13:11] <erawfish> rx: debootstrap
[13:11] <brambo> b4 downloading
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> getting a .deb from a site will NOT get all the dependencies for the deb file.
[13:12] <danielski_pl> brambo: i dont know i got amd64 and any app works fine for me 64 or not but it prob does try it
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Which can be extensive # of addational pakckages - for some things.
[13:12] <brambo> ok ill have a look around thanks
[13:13] <gatestone_> Any experience in buying service from Canonica? Is it worth the price for a non-tech-professional, who has some money but no intention to solve his IT problems by herself?
[13:13] <T00L> can an admin forwad ports on a NAPT-router (Network Adress Ports Traslation?
[13:13] <imagine> Hi, I'm trying to automount my SSHFS mount by adding to /etc/fstab sshfs#user@domain:/dir /dir but when I run mount /dir it says connection reset by peer, any idea ?
[13:14] <Tonren> ali1234: I did a "kill -SIGTERM" on the Xserver process
[13:14] <brambo> am i allowed to stay logged in this room while i have a look around that site u said about?
[13:17] <peleg> For all the new buddies in the room: does anyone knows how to use iwconfig to set the encryption of eth1 to WPA2?
[13:17] <Jed1> Anyone know URL to read about the latest changes in Ubuntu?  (I am interested about the latest update of the kernel)
[13:19] <wiske58> Is there a way to change the on screen font size in Pidgin
[13:21] <peleg> wiske: try tools->preferences->conversations in buddy list
[13:21] <ricky_clarkson> Are laptops typically able to boot from an external hard drive?
[13:21] <danielski_pl> peleg: u beat me to it lol was just about to say that lol
[13:21] <peleg> daniel: my purpose is to beat people
[13:21] <ali1234> ricky_clarkson: new ones, yes
[13:21] <blanksystem> hello
[13:22] <danielski_pl> laptops can boot from usb stick i know that for sure never tried hdd
[13:22] <LukeL> Sorry I don't need help, I'm setting up the message proc for my irc program, does anyone know of a channel on this network where they talk non stop?
[13:22] <T00L> !NAPT
[13:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about napt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:22] <T00L> !NAT
[13:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:22] <ricky_clarkson> Thanks.
[13:22] <ricky_clarkson> I have a 500GB drive, is Partition Magic appropriate for that, or should I use a Linux tool?
[13:22] <ricky_clarkson> I can boot from CD.
[13:23] <danielski_pl> PM should do
[13:23] <T00L> who can I get help about network?
[13:23] <T00L> where?
[13:23] <ricky_clarkson> I'll confess that almost every time I've used Partition Magic I've used a pirated version - is there a free equivalent I could use?
[13:24] <LukeL> User Gparted
[13:24] <danielski_pl> not of pmagic no unless u want to buy it
[13:24] <ricky_clarkson> I said equivalent, not version.
[13:24] <LukeL> If you use the
[13:24] <danielski_pl> gparted under linux
[13:24] <danielski_pl> fdisk under windows
[13:24] <ricky_clarkson> Is gparted in the Ubuntu bootable CD?
[13:24] <LukeL> Live CD Version of ubuntu it has Gparted which is really nice for setting up partitions
[13:24] <LukeL> yes
[13:24] <ricky_clarkson> Ok, thanks.
[13:25] <ricky_clarkson> Is it known to mess hardware/data up?
[13:25] <danielski_pl> it doesnt
[13:25] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone know of noise cancelation software that works in ubuntu
[13:25] <ricky_clarkson> So my 30GB of MP3s are safe, thanks.
[13:25] <LukeL> It is not 100% but it is a very tested program and uses a very tested LIB to do the operations
[13:25] <moDumass> i live across the road from a new nightclub, and their music is crap
[13:26] <danielski_pl> modumass: go accross the road and cut off there power, i dont encourage this behaviour
[13:26] <LukeL> :P
[13:26] <moDumass> haha
[13:27] <ali1234> moDumass: that would require a real time kernel among other things...
[13:27] <moDumass> yeh, i tried finding their circuitbreaker today, but its all indoors
[13:27] <moDumass> alil234, meaning?
[13:27] <ali1234> meaning it would be pretty hard to set up, even if it did exist
[13:27] <moDumass> a real time kernel?
[13:27] <LukeL> Try downloading some 'white noise' mp3's and loop them in a media player
[13:28] <wiske58> peleg: Thanks
[13:28] <ali1234> moDumass: to cancel the noise you have to sample it, invert it, and play it back *really fast* other wise you just get an echo
[13:28] <moDumass> alil234, noise cancelation is not that hard to set up, you need a microphone and a dsp to play an inverse wave form.. like a muffler per say
[13:28] <moDumass> yeh im looking more for a "tinnitus masker"
[13:29] <ali1234> moDumass: exactly.  a PC is not a DSP
[13:29] <moDumass> thats what i used in windows
[13:29] <moDumass> hmmm, yeh ok,
[13:29] <moDumass> thanks anyway
[13:30] <ali1234> would probably be easier just to build it from analogue components...
[13:30] <moDumass> alil234, its cool, thanks
[13:30] <overclucker> or even better, move
[13:31] <danielski_pl> off topic question: if everyone used ubuntu/kubuntu, will microsoft go out of business?
[13:31] <AmBAr> What is the best way to get a chipset via VN986 on Ubuntu 7.10: use the oficial driver on viaarena website (i dont find this driver) or use OpenChrome ???
[13:31] <Pici> danielski_pl: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[13:31] <danielski_pl> ah ok sorry
[13:32] <moDumass> and danielski_pl, it kinda goes without saying doesnt it
[13:33] <moDumass> i mean if no one is using microsoft products
[13:34] <AmBAr> OpenChrome is better than Oficial driver for via vn986 ?
[13:34] <roddersg> anyone here familiar with apt-proxy ?
[13:34] <ali1234> AmBAr: depends what you want to use it for... but via graphics generally suck whatever you use...
[13:35] <AmBAr> I wanna get 3D aceleration for my notebook to use with compiz/fusion
[13:36] <AmBAr> ali1234, so... OpenChrome is the best way ?
[13:36] <AmBAr> ali1234,  I wanna get 3D aceleration for my notebook to use with compiz/fusion
[13:37] <ali1234> AmBAr: well, it's supposed to... might not be fast enough for compiz
[13:38] <peleg> one more try: I'm trying to configure eth1 for WPA2, but I don't have that option in the network manager (known bug of intel cards). I was told to try to do it with iwconfig, but I can't figure out how to do that. Someone, maybe, knows?
[13:39] <AmBAr> ali1234,  anyway I dont can find a via vn986 driver on viaarena website :( i will use OpenChrome so.. Tank you very much
[13:40] <wiske58> peleg: Is there a way to also suppress notification of people entering and leaving the chat?
[13:40] <peleg> wisk: don't know... these are irc settings and not pidgin settings, I think
[13:41] <t47984358> hey, i need help. Can someone plz explain me the use of dapper?
[13:41] <Frogzoo> !docs | t47984358
[13:41] <ubotu> t47984358: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[13:41] <t47984358> i tried to install hydra but stucked, now i get a -dep package from dapper, but if i try to run hydra i get an error that libssh is missing
[13:42] <t47984358> i tried to installed it from the /usr/bin dir and it says im not root
[13:42] <t47984358> what is it?
[13:42] <t47984358> !docs dapper
[13:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docs dapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:42] <t47984358> !dapper
[13:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[13:42] <t47984358> !lts
[13:42] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[13:43] <t47984358> !libssh
[13:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libssh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:44] <hoovie> hi folks
[13:44] <hoovie> can somebody help me with a printing problem?
[13:44] <_Enchained> Hi
[13:44] <hoovie> whenever I send postscript to a socket based canon printer, it prints PS as Ascii text followed by blank pages
[13:44] <_Enchained> Is there a special channel for Hardy ?
[13:45] <_ruben> !hardy
[13:45] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:45] <hoovie> I've already disabled ps_accounting and so on, but that didn't help
[13:45] <_Enchained> thanks
[13:45] <AmBAr> !vn986
[13:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn986 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:45] <AmBAr> !via
[13:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:46] <AmBAr> !ubotu
[13:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:47] <[hl|or|qry]sheep> ;)
[13:47] <[hl|or|qry]sheep> almost allknowing
[13:50] <L3ttuc3> is there a way to get compiz working with xubuntu? i know that sort of defeats the purpose, but i was just wondering, for information's sake.
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> L3ttuc3: You might try asking in #Compiz...
[13:51] <L3ttuc3> Jack_Sparrow ah yeah, i was being lazy :P.
[13:51] <ali1234> L3ttuc3: xfce is supposed to have it's own compositing window manager isn't it?
[13:52] <L3ttuc3> ali1234 i don't know to be honest, i haven't played a lot with it. i'm mostly happy with gnome.
[13:53] <fdr> hello! how to I enable the vino server (gnome's integrated vnc) for a certain user on a computer on which I only have ssh root access? thank you!
[13:53] <[hl|or|qry]sheep> on youtube you can find a video with Compiz working on a Xubuntu CD
[13:53] <[hl|or|qry]sheep> *PC
[13:53] <ali1234> L3ttuc3: xubuntu uses xfce...
[13:53] <brambo> does pidgin messenger leave my name signed on if i put my pc to sleep where the fans n all turn off?
[13:54] <L3ttuc3> ali1234 yes, i know, i installed it beside ubuntu. didn't come with all the wobbly stuff by default. didn't like enough to look further into it, yesterday. :)
[13:54] <brambo> thanks 4 all ur help ppl i gotta run
[13:54] <titanix88> :)
[13:54] <brambo> back later
[13:54] <L3ttuc3> but like the xubuntu page says, it's meant for machines of lower spec... so... might be defeating their manifesto to get compiz working on there.
[13:56] <moDumass> L3ttuc3 not really, i mean by todays standards an mx440 is really low spec, and thats more than enough grunt to get compiz working
[13:57] <moDumass> and you dont hae to turn on 3d, the opsys will still work just as well without the eye candy
[13:57] <titanix88> i have a mx400 :)
[13:57] <titanix88> sorry 4000
[13:57] <moDumass> haha
[13:57] <titanix88> and it worked with compiztoo.
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Big difference
[13:57] <L3ttuc3> moDumass opsys? oh, no i was just wondering if it were possible to have compiz up in xfce. this is a little offtopic, so, apologies, all.
[13:58] <moDumass> dont worry about it, theyre all so "on topic off topic" here, as far as im concerned, if its a question relating to linux its in, and if its relating to ubuntu even better
[13:58] <amenado> fdr am not sure, but you can try   su -u username vino-session &
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass: IS offtopic as we speak
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[13:59] <L3ttuc3> moDumass i suppose i'd google it if im really interested. well, nothing much has gotten me interested enough to shift from gnome to either kde or xfce... or even enligtenment, blackbox and the like. used to like blackbox and enlightenment, but that was about 10 years ago.
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> When the channel is not slammed (like now) we lighten up a bit about the on-off topic
[14:00] <titanix88> how can i ssh into another local computer? it says ssh is refused.
[14:01] <compwiz18> titanix88: are you running an ssh server on the other computer?
[14:01] <L3ttuc3> oh fair enough :).
[14:01] <L3ttuc3> i've only started hanging out here recently hehe.
[14:01] <titanix88> compwiz18: ssh server?!
[14:02] <titanix88> i wanna know how can i enable ssh login in ubuntu.
[14:02] <LjL-Temp> titanix88: err... computers don't magically accept SSH connections you know, they must have something installed to handled them - that's called an SSH server :)
[14:02] <Poka> !ssh | titanix88
[14:02] <ubotu> titanix88: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ljl
[14:02] <LjL-Temp> hi
[14:03] <titanix88> okkkkkk :|
[14:03] <compwiz18> titanix88: it's easy, don't worry :)
[14:03] <xGeek> BAH... dell was selling 1.5tb drives yesterday for $70
[14:04] <xGeek> not on purpose mind you, but it appears as though they're actually going to ship the ones that they sold.
[14:04] <peleg> I need help with configuring WPA2. Anyone familiar with that?
[14:04] <xGeek> that makes me sad :(
[14:04] <titanix88> btw how can i share files between two lan connected ubuntu machine?
[14:05] <LjL-Temp> !nfs > titanix88    (titanix88, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:05] <compwiz18> titanix88: you can use ssh to do that too
[14:06] <titanix88> compwiz18: i have some experience with ssh and scp, but i could not think they did not install it by default! :o
[14:07] <Poka> !wpa | peleg
[14:07] <ubotu> peleg: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:07] <compwiz18> titanix88: they don't on ubuntu, because most people will never use it.  ssh client is installed by default, however.
[14:07] <Poka> peleg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[14:07] <compwiz18> also, it opens [possible] security holes running a server most people won't use
[14:07] <titanix88> compwiz18: hmmm.
[14:08] <lollo> obladì obladà
[14:08] <compwiz18> titanix88: and it's easy to install: sudo apt-get install openssh
[14:08] <compwiz18> openssh-server
[14:08] <compwiz18> or something like that :)
[14:08] <Poka> !english > lollo
[14:08] <amenado> Poka, you are a bit young to enjoy that jingle :)
[14:08] <lollo> okyz ... macho macho maan
[14:09] <Poka> amenado: ok. :-)
[14:09] <titanix88> compwiz18: yeah. i got it. thnx for your help. :)
[14:09] <compwiz18> titanix88: great :)
[14:09] <Nagato> does anyone know why the upload speed in virtualbox is much slower than my regular upload?
[14:10] <Nagato> it's at least 90kb/s slower
[14:10] <moDumass> Jack_Sparrow : yeh im not too phazed eh
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:10] <fasta> How does an upgrade of e.g. ntp look like when the maintainer changed the configuration file? I currently use Debian and Synaptic. Is the solution exactly the same in Ubuntu?
[14:10] <moDumass> im off its like 2am here and i need my beauty sleep
[14:10] <allin> Can someone help me with a small problem
[14:11] <compwiz18> !ask
[14:11] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:11] <amenado> Nagato i dont know, because it has to find a space for storing the incoming, so it has to move things around lest you have massive ram?
[14:11] <allin> oh, sorry, lol
[14:11] <Nagato> amenado, i have 512mb of ram set for the os
[14:11] <Nagato> out of 2gb
[14:11] <titanix88> one more question. can anyone tell me about pulse audio's networking concepts? my friend has a nice speaker. i wanna share it. so i installed pulseaudio properly. then lot's of server, source, sink thing... :( i dont get them.
[14:12] <Nagato> and i'm not doing much with it, just uploading a 2mb file to sendspace
[14:12] <compwiz18> titanix88: pulse will be default in next version but that probably doesn't help you much :)
[14:12] <amenado> Nagato i dont know if thats enuff, try giving it a full 1.5 gig and maybe you see a difference?
[14:12] <allin> okay I want to completely delete / uninstall ubuntu from my system
[14:12] <abcdef> iam not able to mount my sdcard in my ubuntu anyone can help me ....in the /dev the mmcblk0 entry is also not shown...what to do everything works fine in windows...??please help me ...everything was ok few hours ago in ubuntu too... but now nothing happens when i insert the sdcard ...please help me urgently
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> allin: INstall whatever you choose right over the top of it
[14:12] <compwiz18> titanix88: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio ?
[14:13] <ali1234> abcdef: usb reader? try replugging it
[14:13] <Nagato> would the ram really cause my internet upload speed to be cut a great deal like that, though?
[14:13] <Nagato> that seems very odd to be honest
[14:13] <Poka> Nagato: nope. it shouldn't.
[14:13] <ali1234> Nagato: no but pushing the data through a virtual interface might
[14:13] <titanix88> compwiz18: yeah during lots of source sink combination, it actually worked once!!:-/ but i can not recreate it.
[14:14] <abcdef> no just the sd card not a usb reader...i trried replugging several times...please do help me....i urgently require to access the contents of this card
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Nagato: Using V-anything has overhead
[14:14] <xidarian> i have a re-occuring problem with grub
[14:14] <Nagato> ali1234, the data is in the virtual machine already, not transferring it over
[14:14] <amenado> Nagato if the virtual machine dont have much space to store and it has to swap, what you think it would do, am guessing here, but sounds reasonable
[14:14] <xidarian> when something is updated it puts the wrong partition in ot boot from
[14:14] <allin> so how do uninstall or delete ubuntu from my system without being able to access the internet??
[14:14] <xidarian> i have to edit the boot stuff to start ubuntu
[14:14] <ali1234> Nagato: but it has to go through the virtual interface onto the real one of your PC before it hits the 'net
[14:14] <Nagato> ah
[14:15] <compwiz18> allin: do you want to install something in its place... or just get rid of it or install windows or what?
[14:15] <Nagato> i guess, that just seems like a lot of overhead though
[14:15] <abcdef> could any one help me how to make my sd card detected on my ubuntu...?
[14:15] <arthur_kalm> Hey everyone, for the past 2 days, my trackerd has been sitting at 100% CPU. trackerd had already indexed everything that it needed and worked perfectly fine, until Monday I came in to work and fired up the computer. Then trackerd for some reason sat at 100%, huh?
[14:15] <Nagato> since downloading is the same speed, it's just uploading
[14:15] <arthur_kalm> any help would be appreciated
[14:15] <Poka> !virtualization | Nagato
[14:15] <ubotu> Nagato: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[14:15] <amenado> Nagato if you have read the manual on virtual box, it kind of give you some indications of not as fast as the host
[14:15] <allin> After I installed ubuntu, my old bios / boot screen wont come up, and it wont boot from a cd
[14:16] <abcdef> iam not able to mount my sdcard in my ubuntu anyone can help me ....in the /dev the mmcblk0 entry is also not shown...what to do everything works fine in windows...??please help me ...everything was ok few hours ago in ubuntu too... but now nothing happens when i insert the sdcard ...please help
[14:16] <Poka> allin: it's not because of ubuntu.
[14:16] <mavi-> allin: sounds like your computer broke
[14:16] <allin> I would like to dual boot windows
[14:16] <xidarian> does anyone know where ubuntu stores the information that it uses to make the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpne > abcdef
[14:16] <mavi-> allin: try pulling the power coord and insert it again, else try to reset bios
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > abcdef
[14:16] <xidarian> i moved some partitions when upgrading windows to vista
[14:16] <abcdef> ?
[14:16] <xidarian> er downgrading ot xp form vista
[14:16] <xidarian> and nwo i have one less partition
[14:17] <xidarian> whenever something to do with the boot process updates i have to go and manualy edit menu.lst
[14:17] <xidarian> because it puts in something like hd(0,2) when it shoudl be hd(0,1)
[14:17] <abcdef> do anyone have any idea abt how to detect the sd card...in ubuntu....
[14:18] <Sonja> i get error 17 cannot mount! :(
[14:18] <xidarian> abcdef, how do you know it isn't trying to use the sd card
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: If it did work, and now it does not, it most likely got pulled while hot and got locked down.
[14:18] <ndo> euhm, ive got a problem, with keyboard. its an azerty keyboard. but its now working as querty. even i would say, when i logged in, ive changed settings and it works as azerty. but at login screen it stays querty. can i do something about it?
[14:18] <funkja> I inherited a couple thousand lines of cpp code from an ongoing project. Does anyone know of some software that I can use to analyze it and find function maps (what functions call what), variable usage, stuff like that?
[14:18] <abcdef> no it worked now in xp/.....
[14:18] <allin> when I put in a different hdd, it lets me do bios and all
[14:18] <titanix88> ##bangladesh
[14:19] <titanix88> sorry guys :-!
[14:19] <abcdef> it worked pretty well in xp right now....but not in ubuntu....
[14:19] <allin> aww well, im better off with linux, just can't find my modem driver
[14:19] <abcdef> something gone wrong in my ubuntu os
[14:19] <xidarian> abcdef, have you tried to mount the device yourself
[14:19] <abcdef> no...
[14:19] <xidarian> maby it just isn't automounting
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> allin: What kind of modem?
[14:19] <abcdef> from where to mount...?
[14:19] <Limez> hi all, is it possible to install Photoshop CS2 with wine?
[14:20] <Poka> abcdef: $ sudo rmmod tifm_sd; sudo modprobe tifm_sd;
[14:20] <bullgard4> How to type a search string in 'Tracker Search' which includes a space character?
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: Please have a little more patience
[14:20] <amenado> funkja  start with "nm" ?
[14:20] <peleg> I'm a bit desperate... I'm here for hours already, and I just can't find anyone to help me with accessing the internet. I can't access via WIFI, but I've read dozens of tutorials, and I just can't make it work.
[14:20] <peleg> I have done half a way with one of the members here, but he left and now I can't continue. The network card is enabled (eth1) but I still can't access. Does anyone know what should I do?
[14:20] <abcdef> ok right now itself i will do it poka...
[14:21] <Poka> abcdef: ok
[14:22] <amenado> peleg, what does  iwconfig  show you? route -n, ifconfig ?  can you pastebin the result?
[14:22] <Kohvihoor> is it possible to install ubuntu from another distro?
[14:22] <abcdef> poka i tried it nothing happened...what to do?
[14:22] <peleg> amenado: I will paste
[14:22] <peleg> thanks
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Limez: I believe so, but you should check the wine db of apps to be sure
[14:22] <ginobot> i have finally have connection!
[14:22] <ginobot> damn
[14:23] <amenado> peleg also tell us which chip do you use
[14:23] <Poka> abcdef: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_the_internal_SD-CARD_working
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !Install > Kohvihoor
[14:24] <Kohvihoor> thanks, Jack_Sparrow
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Poka: Does he need that specific adapter for that to work...
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Kohvihoor: np
[14:24] <allin> shoot now I cant find my modem
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> allin: lspci perhaps
[14:25] <abcdef> poka its for ubuntu 6.10 and 6.06 not for 7.04 i use feisty fawn...what to do to make my sd card detected in feisty?
[14:25] <xidarian> does anyone here kno where ubuntu stores the info on partitions that it uses to make the file /boot/grub/menu.lst because it is doing it wrong
[14:26] <Poka> abcdef: shouldn't be much of a difference. Try it and see how it goes. ask us how to do specific steps.
[14:26] <xidarian> and when i get any updates that effect the boot up
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef:Did work before and does not work now?  Did you do anything special to get it to work with the original install, or did it just work?
[14:26] <xidarian> it breaks menu.lst
[14:26] <abcdef> no not at all it worked jack sparrow
[14:26] <xidarian> and i have to change where it says hd(0,2) to hd(0,1)
[14:26] <xidarian> every time
[14:26] <abcdef> i didnt add anything to my system to make it work....
[14:27] <peleg> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54850/
[14:27] <amenado> xidarian what is the content of your device.map ?
[14:27] <gnubie> abcdef,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting   have you looked here?
[14:27] <peleg> thanks
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: HAve you tried a different card?
[14:27] <xidarian> where is device .map
[14:27] <abcdef> no i dont have one...but the same works in xp
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: That does not tell me what I need to know
[14:27] <abcdef> please explain jack sparrow
[14:27] <xidarian> amenado where is device.map
[14:28] <allin> well i gtg, thx, peace
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: From terminal what does sudo fdisk -l   last letter is L   show you
[14:28] <hwilde> is there a screensaver slideshow that you can put in your own pictures?
[14:28] <xidarian> hd0 /dev/sda
[14:28] <abcdef> Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes
[14:28] <abcdef> 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5168 cylinders
[14:28] <abcdef> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
[14:28] <abcdef>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:28] <abcdef> /dev/sda1   *           1         163     1232248+   6  FAT16
[14:28] <abcdef> /dev/sda2             164        3899    28244160    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[14:28] <FloodBot2> abcdef: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: Bad bad.. please do not paste into the channel
[14:29] <abcdef> sorry...
[14:29] <Poka> !paste | abcdef
[14:29] <abcdef> ?
[14:29] <Poka> !pastebin | abcdef
[14:29] <S> Anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a Compaq v3600 series
[14:29] <feni23> Wenn du einen Mathematiker wählen läßt zwischen einem Brötchen und ewiger Seligkeit, was nimmt er?
[14:29] <feni23>  Natürlich das Brötchen: Nichts ist besser als ewige Seligkeit - und ein belegtes Brötchen ist besser als nichts...
[14:29] <peleg> !pastebin
[14:29] <feni23> muhahaha
[14:29] <peleg> not working?
[14:29] <erUSUL> sitosss: !de | feni23
[14:29] <Poka> ubotu: die
[14:30] <erUSUL> !de | feni23
[14:30] <ubotu> abcdef: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <ubotu> feni23: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:30] <xidarian> amendo??
[14:30] <Pici> Why even ask for the pastebin factoid? FloodBot2 already provided the address....
[14:30] <amenado> xidarian yes? you have looked at device.map ?
[14:30] <goppp_> hi I can't seem to get my second monitor to show up, only the one hooked up to the ati card, but not the intel intergrated one
[14:30] <hwilde> !screensaver
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <peleg> amenado: did you see my paste?
[14:30] <goppp_> amI doing something wrong
[14:30] <hwilde> !xinerama | goppp_
[14:30] <ubotu> goppp_: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[14:30] <xidarian> when i cat device.map it says (hd0) /dev/sda
[14:30] <hwilde> !DualHead | goppp_
[14:30] <ubotu> goppp_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[14:30] <amenado> peleg,  wpa-ssid Stoke Newington House Project    should not that be essid ?
[14:31] <abcdef> ok sorry i was not knowing about that...what to do jacksparrow...?
[14:31] <peleg> amenado: oh, yes, it is...
[14:31] <amenado> !who | xidarian
[14:31] <ubotu> xidarian: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[14:31] <peleg> amenado: was lazy copying manually
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: Read and use the pastebin
[14:31] <abcdef> ok should i paste it again
[14:31] <abcdef> ?
[14:32] <xidarian> amenado i can get grub workign by editing menu.lst
[14:32] <bert_> hi, is it possible to copy a partition from one PC to an other through ssh or vnc ?
[14:32] <tomd> bert_, create an image
[14:32] <bert_> ow yeah, how stupid of me :p
[14:32] <xidarian> amendo but when i update something that effects boot up it changes the value of the partition it looks in
[14:32] <bert_> thx tomd
[14:33] <amenado> peleg you want me to be lazy assisting you too?
[14:33] <tomd> bert_, dd if=/dev/hdaX of=/backup/img
[14:33] <abcdef> Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40007761920 bytes 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5168 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *           1         163     1232248+   6  FAT16 /dev/sda2             164        3899    28244160    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda3            3900        5094     9034200   83  Linux /dev/sda4            5095        5164      529200   82  Linux swap
[14:33] <peleg> amendo: hey, sorry...
[14:33] <abcdef> yea done jack sparrow....
[14:33] <genii> gah
[14:33] <tomd> bert_, then I'm not sure how it will work.. but I would try to create a partition of the same size
[14:33] <Sonja> halp! i get error 17 cannot mount. i can only boot to winxp now ;_;
[14:33] <tomd> the _exact_ same size
[14:33] <carpediem> bert_:  the contents, yes.  I use sshfs for that kind of stuff
[14:33] <tomd> and copy the image to it with dd
[14:33] <peleg> amendo: It's a post from a few hours ago, only added a few lines.
[14:33] <tomd> assuming an identical fs
[14:33] <bert_> tomd, I thin gparted or qparted support in/exporting
[14:33] <tomd> which I'm not sure is necessary either
[14:33] <peleg> amendo: The problem is that I can't choose WPA in the Network Settings.
[14:34] <tomd> bert_, well that sounds more user friendly ;)
[14:34] <amenado> xidarian, umm make sure the System.map.xxx gets updated
[14:34] <peleg> amendo: ikonia told me to use iwconfig for that, but I couldn't figure out how (tried in the last 2 hours...)
[14:34] <goppp_> I read the document, but I am not getting my second monitor to show up
[14:34] <amenado> peleg, oh yeah, make sure it works in the clear before doing this in wpa/wep
[14:34] <peleg> amendo: "in the clear"?
[14:34] <abcdef> please help me jack sparrow...
[14:35] <amenado> peleg you are getting lazy..type the nick correctly or i will miss
[14:35] <peleg> oops
[14:35] <peleg> amenado: sorry
[14:35] <Poka> abcdef: sudo rmmod sdhci; sudo modprobe sdhci; <---- what does this do?
[14:36] <shizz> hi
[14:36] <Poka> hi shizz
[14:36] <amenado> peleg,  ie do not use wpa at first to make sure your system can connect, just for testing.. use wpa later on
[14:36] <peleg> amenado: ikonia said that this is a known bug in intel cards - not to show all possible encryptions
[14:36] <abcdef> nothing happens pok
[14:36] <shizz> i ust installed ubuntu
[14:36] <shizz> just*
[14:37] <Poka> ok good
[14:37] <shizz> very mac-like
[14:37] <peleg> amenado: do you mean that I should change the encryption in the router itself?
[14:37] <amenado> peleg if there are known bugs on this, what ever i suggest maybe futile..get another wifi card?
[14:37] <shizz> had an issue with my audigy card but, i found out that "digital output" was selected
[14:37] <amenado> peleg,  yes, both end must be compatible, not just one side
[14:37] <Limez> Is there a program such as GIMP or Photoshop? (I search for new designer programmes)
[14:38] <dgjones> !gimp
[14:38] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[14:38] <amenado> Limez yes, plus inkscape and blender
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> abcdef: You need to read carefully, without providing a link, I cannot find your info.  and if you dont use my nick, It doesnt highlght for me and I can miss your post
[14:38] <Limez> I don't like gimp
[14:38] <Limez> I know blender already
[14:38] <Poka> Limez: inkscape;
[14:38] <peleg> amenado: no - but the bug is only about SHOWING the wpa option - it's not about LIMITING that possibility.
[14:38] <Stwange> is there any way of playing a sound clip whenever an external drive is opened (or if not, when mounted)?
[14:38] <amenado> Limez, you are frekin demanding, do your own research then
[14:38] <Limez> Poka, I'll take a look at that :D
[14:38] <peleg> amenado: I beleive that there is a way of configuring the access to WPA without using the network manager.
[14:38] <Poka> Limez: ok
[14:38] <Poka> :)
[14:38] <Coconut> hey guys. is it possible to see an other pc (with windows vista) in a network? on my desktop-pc i have linux ubuntu now, and want to see my laptop with vista in a network
[14:38] <xidarian> amenado, where do i find System.map.xxx
[14:39] <amenado> peleg you can use the file interfaces without using network manager
[14:39] <Poka> !cifs | Coconut
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <amenado> xidarian, /boot
[14:39] <peleg> amenado: I know, but I don't know what to do there.
[14:39] <Poka> Coconut: you can use cifs.
[14:39] <peleg> amenado: now I removed WPA-2 from the router. How can I check if it connects?
[14:39] <amenado> peleg then sometimes you know we must consult google ourself..so have you consulted google yet?
[14:40] <Coconut> k, thank you Poka
[14:40] <cclampblues> Hello all, i am currently trying to figure out a wireless card problem in xubuntu (gusty)... i have an smc wireless card [model smc2635w (pcmcia)  --  with ADM tek adm8211 chipset] that does not show up in applications, system, network menu..... but when i lspci it shows up... with lshw it shows up as: *-network UNCLAIMED.... any advice would be greatly appreciated.
[14:40] <Poka> Coconut: yw
[14:41] <amenado> peleg we sort of help you find info, we cant remember everything ourselves
[14:41] <peleg> amenado: I guess that you've encountered many people who didn't, hence you ask. Well: yes. I have been trying to fix that problem since - well - for about 6 hours now. I read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834 carefuly. I've been in many forums/blogs as well. I've talked to ikonia for about 1.5 hours, but then he just disappeared...
[14:41] <shizz> i care to see the userlist on xchat-gnome how do I do this?
[14:41] <amenado> peleg you can connect to your AP... dhclient eth0  or whatever the name of your nick
[14:41] <xidarian> amenado, what am i looking for in system.map.xxx
[14:42] <peleg> amenado: what is AP?
[14:42] <compwiz18> shizz: ya hit view at the top and click user list
[14:42] <m1r> hello
[14:42] <amenado> peleg access point
[14:42] <Poka> peleg: AP => Access Point.
[14:42] <compwiz18> shizz: assuming xchat gnome is similar to normal xchat :)
[14:42] <amenado> peleg thats the router/ap you have to configure
[14:42] <shizz> compwiz18: i understand that would be logical, but the problem is there's no "view"
[14:42] <compwiz18> shizz: ah, try normal xchat then
[14:42] <Poka> shizz: www.xchat.org
[14:42] <shizz> compwiz18:  how do i do that?
[14:42] <shizz> compwiz18:  oh, thanks
[14:43] <Stwange> shizz, click on the right hand side of the screen and drag it out, it just doesn't have any size, weird bug
[14:43] <peleg> amenado: I can't access it via the command that you've given me - I can do it via windows (as I do it now).
[14:43] <amenado> xidarian, you dont modify the System.map directly  i forget which tool modifies that to reflect system settings, maybe mkinitrd
[14:43] <compwiz18> shizz: open the package manager and find the package xchat and install it :)
[14:43] <amenado> peleg which command was that i gave you?
[14:44] <peleg> amenado: dhclient eth1
[14:44] <shizz> compwiz18:  I've done that to get this xchat-gnome... i s'pose it's xchat-GNOME because ubuntu is defaulted gnome -- how could I switch to KDE?\
[14:44] <Coconut> Poka: cifs is a package,right? (common internet file system)
[14:44] <amenado> peleg you can connect to your AP via a terminal... dhclient eth1
[14:44] <amenado> peleg you can connect to your AP via a terminal... sudo  dhclient eth1
[14:44] <amenado> peleg haft to leave for a few
[14:44] <peleg> amenado: I have done it. It wouldn't work
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> shizz: You do not need kde to use xchat
[14:45] <peleg> amenado: ok, thanks anyway.
[14:45] <Stwange> shizz, your user list is at the right hand side of the chat window, it just needs dragging out
[14:45] <compwiz18> shizz: as far as I know, there is no such thing as xchat-kde, however, as Jack_Sparrow points out, you can just use xchat or xchat-gnome
[14:45] <Limez> What's the name of a screencam for Ubuntu? A screen recorder
[14:45] <shizz> Stwange: I've drug the window out as far as I can get it, but no solution has been found
[14:45] <Stwange> shizz, must be a different problem than the one I had then =)
[14:46] <Poka> Coconut: it's a protocol. and you should install samba not cifs per se
[14:46] <shizz> lol
[14:46] <Poka> !lol | shizz
[14:46] <ubotu> shizz: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shizz: just inside the window (right) border do you have a way to open up and slide (left)
[14:46] <xidarian> amenado, does ubuntu use system.map.xxx to make menu.lst, because the problem is in menu.lst and i can fix it
[14:46] <shizz> deeply sorry, ubotu
[14:46] <xidarian> amenado i just don't want to have to fix it all the time
[14:47] <Poka> !bot
[14:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:47] <Stwange> don't worry, you didn't hurt ubotu's feelings
[14:47] <Poka> :-E
[14:47] <goppp_> hi
[14:47] <shizz> neh, no other borders beside the scroll
[14:47] <goppp_> hey
[14:47] <peleg> Buddies, I have a problem to access the internet in the last 6 hours now. I have tried to solve it a few times with a few people who helped me, but all had to leave in the middle of it. All I need is someone to guide me for a few minutes through interfaces file, iwconfig, or something similar
[14:47] <shizz> it's not a big problem, i will probly stumble on a solution
[14:48] <peleg> could anyone help me with that, please?
[14:48] <shizz> ill let you guys take care of more severe problems
[14:48] <goppp_> I am went to system admin screen and graphics
[14:48] <danbhfive> peleg: whats the problem?
[14:48] <goppp_> but I can't see to activate the second monito
[14:48] <goppp_> r
[14:48] <peleg> Can't access the internet
[14:49] <peleg> danbhfive: all pastes are here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54850/
[14:49] <shizz> i found it - to the left of where I type it says [ 1153 Users ] -- if I click it, then I see a big userlist!
[14:49] <danbhfive> peleg: with those other people, where you able to diagnose the problem to something more specific? ok
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> peleg: What was the hardwareagain?  Did you look in the supported hardware page for info on it? HAve you tried fwcutter or ndiswrapper?
[14:49] <Stwange> congrats shizz
[14:49] <shizz> score one for me!
[14:49] <peleg> danbhfive: yes, I will give you details:
[14:49] <peleg> danbhfive: DELL inspiron 6400, intel wifi card
[14:49]  * shizz gives love to those who spent their time helping me with a simple problem
[14:50] <peleg> danbhfive: I enabled the card (it was disabled from some reason), and now it is visible in the network manager
[14:50] <pike_> peleg: ugh wpa. have you tested with encryption off?
[14:50] <peleg> pike_: now the encryption is off. Still no change
[14:50] <shizz> id like to add desktop shotcuts to my hdd and cd-rw / dvd-rw :: how can I do this?
[14:50] <peleg> pike_: I don't even know how to tell it to retry the connection
[14:51] <cclampblues> hello I am having difficulty connceting to the internet as well.  i have an smc wireless card [model smc2635w (pcmcia)  --  with ADM tek adm8211 chipset] that does not show up in applications, system, network menu..... but when i lspci it shows up... with lshw it shows up as: *-network UNCLAIMED.... any advice would be greatly appreciated (i am using xubuntu, btw, and i was guided here for advice from #xubuntu)
[14:51] <Poka> peleg: $ sudo killall dhclient; sudo dhclient <interface>;
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> shizz: mounts in /media will show on desktop unless specifically disabled
[14:51] <pike_> peleg: what about this 1) sudo ifconfig eth1 up  2) sudo iwconfig eth1 essid whatevername  3) sudo dhclient
[14:51] <Poka> !wireless | cclampblues
[14:51] <ubotu> cclampblues: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:52] <shizz> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean "mounts in /media" ?
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount > shizz
[14:52] <peleg> Poka: stuck in DHCPDISCOVER and not moving
[14:52] <cclampblues> Poka: thanks. ive been there for some time... i am still unsure how to proceed.
[14:52] <shizz> !diskmounter
[14:52] <Poka> peleg: then it means your _not_ getting valid IP from your AP.
[14:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:53] <Poka> cclampblues: which point you stuck in?
[14:53] <peleg> Poka: what does it mean? all other computers (including this one) are connected
[14:53] <Stwange> shizz, anything you mount, such as a CD, NTFS partition, external drive, anything that would be under My Computer in Windows (apart from C:) are found under /media/
[14:53] <shizz> Jack_Sparrow: for example, if I plug in a usb-drive it will then show up as mountable? then I can only access it, if I mount it? correct?
[14:54] <Poka> peleg: it means that your AP does not want to give you cookies.
[14:54] <shizz> thank you Stwange
[14:54] <julio-saraiva> Please help-me
[14:55] <Poka> peleg: try #wireless
[14:55] <peleg> Poka: so - what can I do about it?
[14:55] <amenado> xidarian, since you know how to modify menu.lst and I assume you dont do kernel often enuff, just manually edit it yourself then
[14:55]  * shizz deeply enjoys linux
[14:55] <julio-saraiva> I am Brazilian
[14:55] <SleepingSloth> julio-saraiva, just ask your question
[14:55] <julio-saraiva> I am Brazilian
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[14:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:56] <peleg> Poka: I don't believe that the problem is in the router. We have 6 more computers that work well with that router at the moment, and my own ubuntu worked well with it until yesterday.
[14:56] <cclampblues> Poka: I am thinking its a driver issue as it shows up with lspci... this card worked with previous versions of xubuntu. im just not sure what to do
[14:56] <amenado> peleg those six computers are hooked up wireless too?
[14:56] <peleg> amenado: yes.
[14:56] <julio-saraiva> Eu queria saber como altera a senha de root pelo grub
[14:57] <shizz> is gnome perferred for newbies? or would I have a better shot with KDE ?
[14:57] <julio-saraiva> qual linha eu edito?
[14:57] <peleg> amenado: It tries to access to 255.255.255.255 port 67 to get a DHCPOFFER. is that ok?
[14:57] <amenado> peleg so it is your end then..and you have tried to disable the wpa?
[14:57] <Poka> cclampblues: hmm.. what card is it?
[14:57] <julio-saraiva> Qual line i am edit
[14:57] <SleepingSloth> julio-saraiva, this is an english channel - you've been told where togo
[14:57] <amenado> peleg, yes thats okay
[14:57] <Coconut> driver for graphic-chip isnt installed automatically, isnt it?
[14:57] <peleg> amenado: I have disabled WPA in the router.
[14:57] <cclampblues> Poka: i have an smc wireless card [model smc2635w (pcmcia)  --  with ADM tek adm8211 chipset] that does not show up in applications, system, network menu..... but when i lspci it shows up... with lshw it shows up as: *-network UNCLAIMED
[14:57] <amenado> peleg have you disabled the wpa on your end, the client?
[14:58] <SleepingSloth> !pt julio-saraiva
[14:58] <Poka> cclampblues: paste lspci in the pastebin
[14:58] <Poka> !pastebin > cclampblues
[14:58] <peleg> amenado: no, I don't know how to do it. I thought it was not enabled, since I didn't have it as an option in the network settings gui
[14:58] <peleg> amenado: it is WEP there.
[14:58] <cclampblues> Poka: I am currently on my mac.... no paste
[14:59] <Poka> cclampblues: ok
[14:59] <amenado> peleg darn it, i told you to make everything in the clear, encryption are like wep/wpa/wpa2  you are not paying atttention man
[14:59] <ward_> can someone explain to me how to join a *insert multiple swears here* jabber chatroom, it seems IMPOSSIBLE
[15:00] <cclampblues> Poka: but it says: 02:00.0 Network controller: ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 20)
[15:00] <peleg> amenado: but I have ONLY two options! WEP key (ascii) or WEP key (hex)
[15:00] <peleg> amenado: I don't have any non-encryption option
[15:00] <TT> I need some help with my printer. The post I made about the problem was 6 days ago and no one has given me a reply.
[15:00] <amenado> peleg you can have it in the clear, in your interfaces file.... you have already looked there have you not? the tutorials you said you were following mentioned this?
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> TTYou need to provide ore information about the problem
[15:01] <peleg> amenado: Yes, I have been in that file. I couldn't understand what it means to make it "clear" there - what exaclty should I modify?
[15:02] <julio-saraiva> I am PT
[15:02] <julio-saraiva> I Am Brazilian
[15:02] <ilya3200> Здоров ребятки
[15:02] <Poka> cclampblues: I have some goodies for you [15:02] <ilya3200> кто из Раши?
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> julio-saraiva: We know... If you speak english, feel free to ask your question.  If you need your native language, we have a channel for that
[15:03] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:03] <genii> !ru | ilya3200
[15:03] <ubotu> ilya3200: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:03] <genii> bah
[15:04] <wwalker> how do I get dpkg to just list the names of the packages, when they were installed, and sorted by install date?
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wwalker: PAckage list is easy, the rest... let me know if You figure it out
[15:05] <danbhfive> wwalker: does dpkg do all that?
[15:06] <peleg> amenado: are you still with me?
[15:06] <b0ha_> hello
[15:06] <Poka> cclampblues: I have some goodies for you [15:06] <b0ha_> why does ubuntu prevent me to install transmission
[15:06] <b0ha_>  transmission: Depends: transmission-cli (>= 1.04-0ubuntu1~gutsy1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:07] <Poka> b0ha_: because of unsatisfied dependency
[15:07] <peleg> danbhfive?
[15:07] <danbhfive> peleg: hi
[15:07] <peleg> danbhfive: they all come and go...
[15:08] <peleg> danbhfive: could you try to go with me for a few minutes?
[15:08] <jrib> b0ha_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:08] <danbhfive> peleg: whats happening?
[15:08] <wwalker> Jack_Sparrow: so there is no way to know what packages were last installed on a machine that has recently flaked out?  Major failing in dpkg :(
[15:08] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:08] <wwalker> danbhfive: rpm does, so I assumed that dpkg would
[15:08] <peleg> danbhfive: I have disabled WPA in the router.
[15:08] <peleg> danbhfive: I guess I should do it also in interfaces file, but I can't figure out how.
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> wwalker: there may be.. I just dont know it
[15:09] <renato_> is there a good video converter for linux that has a gui?
[15:09] <danbhfive> wwalker: dpkg is like the root installer, i think apt-get or aptitude would track those things
[15:09] <b0ha_> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/892550
[15:09] <Blinkiz> How do I see under what group a program is running?
[15:09] <AndrewB> renato_: there is maybe a good front end to ffmpeg
[15:10] <b0ha_> it also says something about broken packages
[15:10] <renato_> AndrewB, do you know the name?
[15:10] <jrib> b0ha_: pastebin that
[15:10] <shizz> if I've only set one password for only one user on my ubuntu-linux, then when I open a terminal and type: su - then the only one password i typed in I use to acces the "su" but it tells me "Authentication failure, sorry." (WHAT DO i DO?)
[15:10] <peleg> danbhfive: are you there with me?
[15:11] <AndrewB> nope sorry renato_
[15:11] <b0ha_> jrib, check on the top of http://pastebin.ca/892550
[15:11] <b0ha_> first 3 lines
[15:11] <mag666> Hi can somone help newbie with Anjuta? I have few problems
[15:11] <NW2190> shizz: try sudo su
[15:11] <danbhfive> peleg: i'm not too expert on this.  I assume you've tried the gui
[15:11] <Poka> peleg: $ sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.backup; sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0;
[15:11] <shizz> NW2190: that worked
[15:12] <TT> @ Jack_Sparrow here is the lin to the post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682259
[15:12] <peleg> Poka: thanks, in a minute
[15:12] <shizz> NW2190: how then may I set a root password seperate from the current user?
[15:12] <peleg> danbhfive: thanks anyway
[15:12] <wwalker> danbhfive: the root installer should be the one that keeps up with things so that if you use apt-get one day and aptitude the next, all the data is available to both tools.  I'll dig around
[15:12] <NW2190> shizz: do you want to change the root password or the user password?
[15:13] <jrib> bobslaede: ok, pastebin 'apt-cache policy transmission transmission-cli'
[15:13] <peleg> Poka: should I put eth1 instead of wlan0 ?
[15:13] <ibou__> i'd like to modify my shortcut keys on kmplayer. How to do that ?
[15:13] <jrib> b0ha_: ok, pastebin 'apt-cache policy transmission transmission-cli'
[15:13] <Poka> peleg: yes
[15:13] <Stwange> shizz, System -> Administration -> Users & Groups -> click Properties on root, select "Set password by hand". You won't be able to login using the GUI with it, but you can su -
[15:13] <Blinkiz> How do I see under what group a program is running?
[15:13] <shizz> NW2190: currently "sudo su" logs onto root@mycomputer w/o a password. I would like to have a password set so that another user may not do as I did and have no password required
[15:14] <Poka> shizz: no need of "sudo" to become root; just "su"
[15:14] <jrib> shizz: you can't use sudo unless you are in the admin group
[15:14] <danbhfive> wwalker: maybe so, but I don't think thats how it works.  For example, dpkg keeps track of dependancies, but it doesn't track what packages were automatically installed when another package was installed.    Apt-get and aotitude do, but in separate ways.
[15:14] <LjL> Poka: ?
[15:14] <Poka> LjL: ?
[15:14] <shizz> Poka: sudo su becomes root, su asks for password and password doesn't authenticate..
[15:14] <b0ha_> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/892562
[15:14] <ckin2001> Blinkiz, man ps
[15:14] <LjL> Poka: how would you use "su" without "sudo" in Ubuntu?
[15:14] <NW2190> shizz: i think sudo passwd
[15:14] <NW2190> does it
[15:14] <Blinkiz> ckin2001: Okay, can you be more specific maybe? ;)
[15:14] <jrib> b0ha_: run 'sudo apt-get update' and try again
[15:15] <initng> hello, everyone
[15:15] <wwalker> danbhfive: agreed, but that's a l8ittle more fringe data than "when was it installed"
[15:15] <Poka> LjL: what do you mean?
[15:15] <TT> @Jack_Sparrow-- cupsys, hplip and all the dependencies. I have a deskjet 550c. when i start my computer the printer cycles through its process of getting ready so I know it is receiving a signal. I had to boot from the live cd due to issues not related to the printer and magicly the printer worked but it won't work when i boot from my hard drive.
[15:15] <LjL> !root | Poka
[15:15] <ubotu> Poka: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:15] <pasdebol> speack french??
[15:15] <dgjones> !fr | pasdebol
[15:15] <jrib> !fr | pasdebol
[15:15] <ubotu> pasdebol: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:15] <LjL> !fr | pasdebol
[15:15] <Stwange> shizz, sudo su asks for the user password (and will work if the user is a member of sudo), su asks for root password
[15:15] <julio-saraiva> I am Crash password root
[15:15] <shizz> wonderful, NW2190 thank you.
[15:15] <julio-saraiva> to grub
[15:15] <NW2190> shizz: ya no problem
[15:15] <pasdebol> thx by
[15:15] <Stwange> LjL, you can change the root password and use it
[15:15] <Stwange> LjL, System -> Administration -> Users & Groups -> click Properties on root, select "Set password by hand". You won't be able to login using the GUI with it, but you can su -
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> TT No idea...  let me look around for a sec.
[15:15] <initng> does anyone here has *ubuntu and didn't do 'sudo passwd' to it?
[15:15] <LjL> Stwange: which is a terrible idea.
[15:15] <Stwange> I don't think so
[15:15] <jrib> shizz: that's unnecessary.  Please read the link from ubotu
[15:15] <LjL> Stwange: well, don't recommend it please.
[15:15] <shizz> Stwange: oh I see... so sudo su is asking for the current users password---whereas the su asks for the root password?
[15:16] <pele1> Poka: again, it is stuck in "NO DHCPHOFFERS recieved"
[15:16] <jrib> !root > shizz (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:16] <mynameisdeleted> I'd like to be able to see my ide drive as /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda so I can use hdparm on it
[15:16] <Stwange> yeah shizz
[15:16] <LjL> !root | shizz, Stwange
[15:16] <ubotu> shizz, Stwange: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:16] <mynameisdeleted> any ideas?
[15:16] <ckin2001> you can sudo sh to pop a root shell and then change the password - but its really dirty
[15:16] <Poka> LjL: whatever. $ su someone; does the job if you _know_ the pass;
[15:16] <LjL> !noroot | shizz,  Stwange, Poka
[15:16] <ubotu> shizz,  Stwange, Poka: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[15:16] <b0ha_> jrib, it worked! thank you
[15:16] <jrib> b0ha_: no problem
[15:16] <lukasz> I got deb packages on home/lukasz they are installed how do I remove em in konsole
[15:16] <LjL> Poka: if there *is* a valid password, in the first place. which there shouldn't be.
[15:17] <shizz> realise the truth, there is no root password
[15:17] <danbhfive> wwalker: still there?  I have something
[15:17] <shizz> makes sense
[15:17] <Jefo> does anyone know why i cannot add WINE to my ubuntu, other apps can be installed
[15:17] <wwalker> danbhfive: ??
[15:17] <pele1> Poka: are you with me?
[15:17] <lukasz> Command for removing packages please
[15:17] <lukasz> The deb packages
[15:17] <Poka> LjL: and who would keep password less root account?
[15:17] <MrKeuner> hi, can I override system wide gnome menu items by putting a something.desktop file somewehere in a user's /home directory?
[15:17] <LjL> Jefo: not unless you tell me what output you get from « sudo apt-get install wine »
[15:17] <TT> Another thing is that deskjet 550 and 550c are not in the list of printer but every toher hp printer is in there
[15:17] <initng> guys, is root password in *ubuntu by default scrambled or root account is locked with 'x' in /etc/shadow? tia
[15:17] <Poka> pele1: ask LjL. he's an expert.
[15:17] <danbhfive> wwalker: you can browse to /var/cache/apt/archives and just sort by modification date
[15:17] <jrib> lukasz: it's the same as any other package you intsalled.  Use your favorite package manager (or for example: apt-get remove PACKAGE)
[15:17] <LjL> Poka, err...? as the link you were given explains, Ubuntu comes with *no valid root password*, which means nobody can login as root *at all*
[15:17] <astro76> initng: locked
[15:18] <julio-saraiva> I am Crash password the root to grub
[15:18] <Jefo> LjL: tried the default installation app, but will try apt-get
[15:18] <danbhfive> wwalker: maybe
[15:18] <SleepingSloth> long shot: is anyone here using a typematrix keyboard ??!
[15:18] <lukasz> ok
[15:18] <pele1> LjL: heard you are one hell of an expert with wifi, ha? :-)
[15:18]  * shizz gives thanks to all 
[15:18] <initng> astro76, thank you very much
[15:18] <Stwange> LjL, I wasn't recommending it, shizz asked my how to do it. And as for "guessing" the root password, I never did. The one thing I hated about ubuntu was that everyone told me it was impossible to login as root (because it was a bad idea), and then when I discovered it wasn't, everyone was just like "yeah well, it's a bad idea". I felt lied to, isn't the whole point of *nix that you are free to use your OS however you want? I didn't appreciate
[15:18] <Stwange> being told I couldn't do something, although I didn't mind being told why I shouldn't
[15:18] <LjL> pele1: not really, all wired here
[15:18] <pele1> LjL: oh... maybe anyway?
[15:18] <julio-saraiva>  /join #linux-hacker
[15:18] <pele1> LjL: I am exhausted. I need one more step in order to connect.
[15:19] <LjL> Stwange, it's impossible *by default*. of course it can be made to become possible - after all, it's your computer, you can do pretty much anything with it if you know how to.
[15:19] <Poka> LjL: i know. that's from the gdm/xdm/kdm. no one's stopping you from the ttys
[15:19] <LjL> Poka: no, that's wrong.
[15:19] <Poka> ok
[15:19] <wwalker> danbhfive: that gave me what I needed, thanks
[15:19] <LjL> Poka: /etc/shadow lists "!" as the root password hash by default. that means that *it is impossible to login as root from anywhere*.
[15:20] <lukasz> thnx
[15:20] <lukasz> :)
[15:20] <LjL> Poka: if you want to change that, it's your choice, but a *default* Ubuntu installation comes that way, and we recommend against changing that.
[15:20] <BoltClock> hi, right now i have an onboard graphics card that gutsy seems to have issues with. but theres a slot available for me to insert another graphics card, how will gutsy react to that? can i try to get it to work with that card instead?
[15:20] <danbhfive> wwalker: np
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: What chipset is in the onboard
[15:20] <TT> I think the printer problem has something to do with the very first update after a new install
[15:20] <BoltClock> chipset?
[15:21] <renato_> can someone tell me the command for converting an avi to mpeg using maximum quality on ffmpeg?
[15:21] <LjL> pele1, i just never had to do with wifi... checked the docs
[15:21] <LjL> !wifi > pele1    (pele1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: What card, make model etc
[15:21] <pike_> BoltClock: yes quit easily
[15:21] <shizz> where may I find the ICON's folder?
[15:21] <Coconut> my pc doesnt detect a portable HDD, what can i do?
[15:21] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia geforce7100
[15:21] <BoltClock> pike_: how?
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: That 7100 should be fine
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[15:22] <pike_> BoltClock: plug it in boot up do a lspci -v to get busid and edit xorg.conf file to reflect new id and driver
[15:22] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: a few weeks ago you and a bunch of others on irc have tried helping me but nothing could get gutsy to cooperate...
[15:22] <shizz> founds some, nevermind
[15:22] <pike_> maybe that doesnt really count as easy..
[15:22] <miked> hi all, i have a script that copies a directory but frequently I find that the copy process is stuck in a sleep state.  after checking the file descriptors for the proccess, stdin and stdout points to a pipe with a inum that does not exist.  i assume the file with that inum has been deleted, but why would cp get stuck on that?
[15:22] <BoltClock> pike_: you lost me at lspci
[15:22] <BoltClock> =x
[15:22] <pele1> LjL: please? I'm in this room for more than 6 hours. I have talked to about 8 people who tried to help, but left in the middle of the process. I have googled all around the web but I just can't make it work - particularly, I have read those docs that you've sent me, of course. The thing is that there is a BUG (known) and the GUI of the network manager won't show me any other encryption - only WEP, so I can't try it "clear" or "W
[15:22] <amenado> peleg i just got back in
[15:23] <oxigen> hi, i try ti install nvidia, and that's all what i have in xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54854/
[15:23] <pele1> amenado: hi, now (I don't know why) I am pele1...
[15:24] <sexcopter> hi, can anyone explain why System Monitor tells me I have 4.4 gig free on my / partition, but only 2.2 gig available?
[15:24] <mynameisdeleted> what is best way to set/check dma status on ide drive on ubuntu 7.10
[15:24] <amenado> pele1, okay you changed your nick
[15:24] <mynameisdeleted> that makes ide drives look like scsi
[15:24] <oxigen> where is the channel for hardy 8.04?
[15:25] <pele2> amenado: or maybe I am pele2 now?
[15:25] <pike_> oxigen: #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <amenado> mynameisdeleted, it maybe how udev determines your drive, im not familiar with udev rules.. do a udevinfo
[15:25] <Poka> O_o
[15:25] <oxigen> pike_ thanks
[15:25] <pike_> BoltClock: itll probably just work but if you do need the busid lspci -v will give it to ya
[15:26] <pike_> BoltClock: i mean a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may just work
[15:26] <mynameisdeleted> I'd be happy to copy /dev/sda to /dev/hda
[15:26] <mynameisdeleted> but hdparm still wont work on it
[15:26] <erUSUL> mynameisdeleted: sudo hdparm -i /dev/xxxx
[15:26] <mynameisdeleted> and sdparm doesnt work either
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Bolt, often it is harder to undo things that did not work than to get it working in the first place.  What all did you try?  ANy scripts, special drivers etc?
[15:26] <amenado> pele1,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html  an interfaces file like this
[15:27] <pele2> amenado: checking
[15:27] <LjL> pele1 (or pele2): your message got cut off after « or "W ». anyway you can say "please" as much as you like, but if i don't know a thing about wireless, i can hardly invent the solution on the spot
[15:27] <jasmin_> hi
[15:27] <pele2> LjL: of course, I didn't mean to.
[15:27] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: i remember lots of reconfiguring x, reinstalling drivers... even the OS
[15:27] <kornelius_> hi
[15:28] <jasmin_> kornelius_, can i ask u some thing
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: I need to run in a couple minutes to the Dr.  but please post your xorg.conf to the pastebin.
[15:28] <Poka> Ljl uses fibre pele2. :-]
[15:28] <amenado> pele2, thats how a config in the clear looks like, no wep,wpa,wpa2 stuff
[15:28] <mynameisdeleted> got it
[15:29] <nblracer> hey im lloking for a guide/turtoral/help on setting up a small network with 5 or so computers, with something simmilar to roming profiles, So any one can login into any of the computers and it would sync up with other computers and/or a server with all there personal data and settings.
[15:29] <amenado> mynameisdeleted, share what you have learned
[15:29] <mynameisdeleted> even though hdparm /dev/sda doenst show dma info
[15:29] <Poka> pele2: did you check wpa wiki page?
[15:29] <mynameisdeleted> hdparm -i /dev/sda does show some info but doenst state whether dma is enabled or not
[15:29] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: the driver is disabled right now and im busy on windows, paste anyway?
[15:29] <shizz> hmm, will my cdrom always auto-mount to the desktop?
[15:30] <mynameisdeleted> hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda
[15:30] <mynameisdeleted> will set dma to on still
[15:30] <amenado> Poka, do not suggest using encryption til he gets it working in the clear first
[15:30] <mynameisdeleted> even though status wont be displayed it will make hdparm -i /dev/sda logner
[15:30] <gm_> hi guys, I've got a problem: do you have ANY clue about locked pdf-files? I mean besides bruteforce methodes. The problem is to open the file.. Hope you can help me =)
[15:30] <pele2> Poka: no, I don't even need that WPA... I'm just trying to access "clear". Could one of you tell me how to try to "reconnect"?
[15:30] <Poka> amenado: his clear isn't working.
[15:30] <TT> @ Jack _Sparrow--Since i know that the printer works from the live cd can i remove all the cupsys and hplip then install the old cupsys and hplip that are on the cd
[15:30] <Slart> are there any "best practices" when it comes to how large you can make an ext3-partition?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: You can do it later
[15:31] <amenado> Poka and am confident the encrypted mode will not work
[15:31] <amenado> pele2, dhclient eth1
[15:31] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: alright. but in case i want to try sticking in another graphics card, is an ati radeon 2600 pro known to work great with gutsy?
[15:31] <NW2190> Has anyone had problems w/ Gutsy hanging on shutdown and found a solution?
[15:32] <pele2> amenado: same thing as before. It's not getting DHCPOFFER
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: no.. stick with nvidia or intel
[15:32] <mynameisdeleted> its actually on udma5 mode
[15:32] <amenado> pele2, do you have the liveCD? boot from it and see if your wifi will work
[15:32] <CroX> I keep getting problems with my video, after the computer's been running for a while. When I logout and login again, it works as it should. This is how the problem looks: http://85.226.139.229/video.png
[15:32] <pele2> amenado: I don't have.
[15:32] <amenado> pele2, ubuntu 7.10 right?
[15:32] <CroX> anyone know what could cause this?
[15:32] <pele2> amenado: 7.04
[15:32] <Poka> pele2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54858/
[15:33] <amenado> pele2, then you try and burn one
[15:33] <LjL> Poka: you're a good detective, how do you know i use fiber?
[15:33] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: guess that means i have to go shopping again, but isnt my model of onboard card supposed to work anyway? ive heard
[15:33] <Poka> pele2: put that in your /etc/network/interfaces.
[15:33] <Poka> LjL: :-D
[15:33] <amenado> LjL  because you are very bright  :)
[15:33] <simon__> hello all. I am an ubuntu user in China
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock: Yes, we should be able to gt it going quite icely
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nice
[15:34] <stefano_> hi
[15:34] <Poka> hello simon__
[15:34] <pike_> simon__: welcome. whats the problem?
[15:34] <stefano_> !list
[15:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:34] <Slart> are there any "best practices" when it comes to how large you can make an ext3-partition?
[15:34] <ikonia> Slart: in what way
[15:34] <amenado> simon you experience that massive traffic jam ?
[15:34] <mynameisdeleted> how do I make cups-spooled processes show up on top?
[15:34] <ikonia> Slart: a partition can be 16 TB as I recall
[15:35] <Slart> ikonia: let me make it easier on you.. will I regret making a 750 Gb ext partition? =)
[15:35] <stefano_> !addon
[15:35] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: do you think some other hardware could be preventing the fixes from working?
[15:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <ikonia> Slart: no
[15:35] <peleg> Poka: done. what now?
[15:35] <ikonia> Slart: I've got a couple of 4TB ones here
[15:35] <pike_> Slart: 2TB? id think seek time would suffer though :)
[15:35] <ikonia> Slart: all depends on the type/size of files on it
[15:35] <mynameisdeleted> if I renice cupsd will it renice foo2zjs command to convert postscript into the printers native format?
[15:35] <peleg> amenado: How can I do that?
[15:35] <mynameisdeleted> that sometimes hangs threads
[15:36] <Poka> peleg: now $ ifconfig eth1 down;
[15:36] <Slart> ikonia: thanks..well.. these are.. ahem.. large movie files.. copies.. of originals.. ahem.. my own originals, of course =)
[15:36] <amenado> pele1,  download the liveCD iso and burn to cd with k3b
[15:36] <peleg> amenado: ok, but I have to buy CDs first
[15:36] <peleg> Poka: done
[15:36] <Poka> peleg: $ sudo ifconfig eth1 up;
[15:36] <ikonia> Slart: XFS may serve you better, but ext3 is going to cause you no issues
[15:37] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[15:37] <Ein2015> why does my server (running xubuntu) always get its time messed up... and then i have to manually sudo ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org
[15:37] <peleg> Poka: done.
[15:37] <Poka> peleg: $ sudo dhclient eth1;
[15:37] <Ein2015> :-\
[15:37] <ezquerro> how can i move mi /home directory to a newly created partition?
[15:37] <shizz> is it possible to emulate win32 applications within ubuntu?
[15:37] <Ein2015> shizz: use wine or a virtual machine
[15:37] <dgjones> !wine | shizz
[15:37] <ubotu> shizz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:37] <danbhfive> ezquerro: I have a webpage for that
[15:37] <ikonia> shizz using emmulation software, or compatability softrware like wine, sure
[15:37] <shizz> are those softwares free?
[15:38] <Poka> peleg: got any cookies from the AP?
[15:38] <pike_> ikonia: isnt xfs pretty volatile or is that just exageration (battery backup needed)
[15:38] <Ein2015> shizz: of course
[15:38] <ikonia> high-freq: sure
[15:38] <mynameisdeleted> how do I stop runaway cups process that doesnt show up in top or ps?
[15:38] <peleg> Poka: nothing has changed. no DHCPOFFERS
[15:38] <Slart> ikonia: I think I'll stick to ext3... seems to be the easiest.. I'm not worried about performance really
[15:38]  * shizz jumps up and down
[15:38] <shizz> wonderful!
[15:38] <Ein2015> :)
[15:38] <Ein2015> what do you need to emulate?
[15:38] <mynameisdeleted> only way so far is to kill cups, but it never says cups is the cpu offender
[15:38] <ezquerro> danbhfive, which is that page?
[15:38] <shizz> was thinking starcraft
[15:38] <ikonia> pike_: I disagree on that, pull the plug on it and it's a massive / full file system the percentage of corruption is higher than say ext3 - but thats just about balance
[15:38] <ikonia> Slart: you will not have bad performance on 750GB
[15:38] <shizz> but more thought might explode to the surface once I start goofin with them emulators
[15:39] <danbhfive> ezquerro: http://hollocher.hobby-site.org/drupal/?q=node/39
[15:39] <peleg> Poka: other computers (including this) are surfing at the moment, still.
[15:39] <Ein2015> hmmm starcraft might be playable... if not, you can always use something like virtualbox and run a VM of windows inside your linux box.
[15:39] <Slart> shizz: I'd say no.. you can use wine to run the file though
[15:39] <shizz> what is the perferred use of a linux machine? just for programming?
[15:39] <SleepingSloth> long shot: is anyone here using a typematrix keyboard ??!
[15:39] <Poka> peleg: can you paste your "$ iwconfig" ?
[15:39] <shizz> SleepingSloth:  not I, sorry.
[15:39] <Ein2015> shizz: for anything other than gaming... although old games usually run just fine.
[15:40]  * shizz scrambles to find duke3d
[15:40] <Slart> shizz: preferred? who are we talking about here? I use mine for regular desktop use.. programming, office stuff, some games.. watching movies, listening to music
[15:40] <Ein2015> LOL :D
[15:40] <ezquerro> thanks danbhfive
[15:40] <peleg> Poka: a minute
[15:40] <Poka> !lol | Ein2015
[15:40] <ubotu> Ein2015: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[15:40] <ikonia> shizz: can we stop the "/me" commands please.
[15:40] <Ein2015> -.-
[15:40] <shizz> yes, we can
[15:40] <ikonia> shizz: thanks
[15:40] <Ein2015> !troll | Poka
[15:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:41] <SleepingSloth> shizz,  i suspect the same is true of pretty much everyone in the world. meh.
[15:41] <Slart> shizz: you'll have a hard time getting the newest games to run on ubuntu/linux though
[15:41] <ikonia> Ein2015: he's not a troll - don't try to start a row,
[15:41] <shizz> yea, i suppose but I do enjoy linux - i guess ill find use for it
[15:41] <Ein2015> well when one of you stop hating on me, take the time and help me figure out a couple of problems?  thanks.
[15:41] <peleg> Poka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54860/
[15:42] <ikonia> Ein2015: ask the question
[15:42] <peleg> Poka: (only the top)
[15:42] <ikonia> n
[15:42] <Ein2015> shizz: it's really fun
[15:42] <k1ng> hey guys, i get this when i go to system>admin>login: GDM (GNOME) is not running. any ideas?
[15:42] <Ein2015> ikonia: i did.  3 times.  i need to figure out how to auto-mount all my hard drives for any users that log in.
[15:42] <Poka> peleg: got it.
[15:42] <peleg> Poka: thanks
[15:42] <Poka> peleg: it's still unassociated dude.
[15:42] <Poka> peleg: you've got the ssid wrong all the way
[15:42] <Ein2015> and i dont know anything about fstab, so an fstab tut would be highly appreciated.
[15:43] <ikonia> Ein2015: NFS what sort of drives are they, local drives, network drives ?
[15:43] <peleg> Poka: what do you mean? This is the ssid, I believe
[15:43] <shizz> !fstab tutorial > Ein2015
[15:43] <Poka> peleg: nope
[15:43] <Ein2015> ikonia: all inside the box :)
[15:43] <Poka> peleg: ask your admin the correct essid.
[15:43] <ikonia> Ein2015: ok - so your using ubuntu 7.10 ?
[15:43] <Ein2015> xubuntu 7.10
[15:43] <ikonia> shizz thats none-existant factoid
[15:43] <peleg> Poka: "Stoke Newington House Project" straight from the NETGEAR admin
[15:44] <Poka> peleg: are others using the exact same esside?
[15:44] <Ein2015> mostly just for speed... i'll install whatever though, np.
[15:44] <shizz> ikonia:  bummer
[15:44] <Poka> essid?
[15:44] <ikonia> Ein2015: ok - so if you look at your /etc/fstab you'll see your core file systems being mounted, a "UUID" in the left, a mount point next, then a file system, then some mount options
[15:44] <Ein2015> shizz: googling doesnt seem to show anything useful (aka anything in ubuntuforums or other similar sites :P)
[15:44] <shizz> perhaps someone could recommend something to rip audio-cd's?
[15:45] <pele1> Poka: checked now. this is the ssid...
[15:45] <Ein2015> ikonia: looking at it now
[15:45] <cclampblues> Poka: i think i have found the driver that i needed. how do i install it :)
[15:45] <pele1> ikonia: are you back?
[15:45] <xidarian> shizz try sound juicer
[15:45] <lukasz> Once I logeout the first time then I login it won;t let me logout
[15:46] <Ein2015> pele1: yeah he is
[15:46] <shizz> i got an error xidarian when "extracting" my cd with that program
[15:46] <shizz> gerrr, im gunna reboot - now mozilla doesnt start, ill brb.
[15:46] <ikonia> Ein2015: so all you need is 1.) the uuid of your disks (the command blkid will show you) 2.) the mount point of your disks 3.) copy the default mount settings
[15:46] <Poka> cclampblues: wget <driverl-URL>; tar -xvf <driver>.tar.gz; cd <driver>; ./configure && make && make install; sudo modprobe <driver>;
[15:46] <lukasz> I have a driver installed
[15:46] <ikonia> pele1: I am yes, sorry I had to leave earlier.
[15:46] <pele1> ikonia: are you available now?
[15:46] <ikonia> pele1: sure
[15:46] <pele1> ikonia: wow, thanks... I almost cry, really.
[15:47] <Ein2015> ikonia: okay let me try that
[15:47] <lukasz> I will see since I did a modprobe
[15:47] <guy28> hi all
[15:47] <ikonia> pele1: keep in mind I'm limited in what I can do as I don't have a box with wirless cards in to play with wirless tools with you
[15:47] <pele1> ikonia: at the moment I removed WPA from my router. Poka says that eth1 is "not associated".
[15:47] <guy28> i got some problem with 7.10 can any help
[15:47] <ezquerro> i have deleted my primary windows partition, how can i restore grub without exiting ubuntu?
[15:47] <cclampblues> Poka: im sorry i have no idea what that means...
[15:47] <ikonia> pele1: ok so do you know the SID of your router ?
[15:47] <pele1> ikonia: it shouldn't be something really weird. only conventional stuff
[15:47] <pele1> ikonia: yes: Stoke Newington House Project
[15:48] <ikonia> pele1: thats your SID ?
[15:48] <Ein2015> ikonia: does the letter or number mean the physical drive (not partition on the physical drive)
[15:48] <pele1> ikonia: it is written correctly in the interfaces file
[15:48] <Poka> cclampblues: you got the driver info right?
[15:48] <ikonia> Ein2015: what letter ?
[15:48] <cclampblues> Poka: i have the driver on my desktop
[15:48] <Ein2015> sda5...
[15:48] <ikonia> pele1: ignore the interfaces file - what is the SID of the router
[15:48] <Ein2015> etc
[15:48] <pele1> ikonia: and in the admin of the router as well
[15:48] <guy28> i got some problem with 7.10 can any help
[15:48] <cclampblues> Poka: downlaoded and uncompressed from tarball
[15:48] <Poka> !driver | cclampblues
[15:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:48] <pike_> ezquerro: example - i think is right 1) sudo grub   2) root (hd0,0)  <-- for hda1 if that is right partition 3) setup (hd0)
[15:48] <pele1> ikonia: Name (SSID): Stoke Newington House Project
[15:48] <Poka> ubotu: die
[15:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:48] <Ein2015> ikonia: does the a or the 5 mean the actual drive
[15:48] <pele1> ikonia: from NETGEAR admin page
[15:49] <Nsf> Hi how can i format the whole disk with ubuntu live cd ?
[15:49] <Poka> cclampblues: ok good.
[15:49] <Ein2015> ikonia: i know one means drive, and one means partition on the drive.
[15:49] <amenado> Nsf, fdisk /dev/hdthatdrive
[15:49] <Poka> cclampblues: cd <uncompressed_tarball>; ./configure;
[15:49] <ezquerro> pike_, and how can i resize my linux partition without umounting it?
[15:50] <kornelius> how to instal unrar on my pc.when i open the file all i see is lots of small text folders
[15:50] <amenado> Nsf then on the menu edit and select the partition you want to format
[15:50] <pike_> ezquerro: you cant i dont believe youd need to use a livecd either ubuntus or gparted's
[15:50] <hottium> ezquerro: i think that even if you could it wouldn't be wery wise
[15:50] <Poka> ezquerro: you can't.
[15:50] <Ein2015> kornelius: did you read INSTALL?  (nano INSTALL)
[15:50] <kornelius> Ein2015: -where do i find it?
[15:51] <Nsf> i want to format all disk not just one partition
[15:51] <Stwange> ezquerro, if you find out, let me know. I've been trying to do that for a month
[15:51] <ikonia> pele1: ok so iwconfig eth1 ESSID=stoke newington house project
[15:51] <GuySoft> hey all, is there a script that will let me add the universe repository only if needed?
[15:51] <amenado> Nsf you can assign the whole disk as one partition..
[15:51] <Dimitree> any Good Ping tool for Ubuntu ? not the Network tools ? i need detiled report with lost packages netork quality and so on ?
[15:52] <Nsf>  fdisk /dev/ like that ?
[15:52] <Poka> Dimitree: ping
[15:52] <Dimitree> *network
[15:52] <Dimitree> ty
[15:52] <cclampblues> Poka: cd? in terminal? whats .configure?
[15:52] <amenado> !who | Nsf
[15:52] <ubotu> Nsf: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:52] <guy28> i got some problem with 7.10 can any help
[15:52] <Ein2015> ikonia: sda5, does the a mean physical drive and the 5 mean 5th partition on that drive, or vice versa?
[15:52] <Poka> cclampblues: you got the tarball?
[15:52] <ikonia> Ein2015: that means disk a partition 5
[15:52] <Ein2015> ikonia: sweet :)
[15:52] <Poka> !ask | guy28
[15:52] <ubotu> guy28: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:52] <amenado> Nsf yes close enuff  /dev/hdb
[15:52] <Ein2015> kornelius: where did you download the file?
[15:53] <Ein2015> kornelius: from the rarlabs site, where did it download to?
[15:53] <cclampblues> Poka: yes, i uncompressed it on the desktop. the driver files are now in a normal folder
[15:53] <Nsf> amenado ty
[15:53] <guy28> ok
[15:53] <Poka> cclampblues: ok press alt+F2; then type xterm
[15:53] <Dimitree> Poka,  no such package ?
[15:54] <cclampblues> Poka: ok its up
[15:54] <kornelius> Ein2015:   on documents and i moved it to my desctop
[15:54] <guy28> how disable unbuntu to stop checking the bios time when start up
[15:54] <mar77i> hi. what program to use to isoize from a movie dvd?
[15:54] <Poka> Dimitree: install iputils-ping
[15:54] <Ein2015> kornelius: are you using a GUI or CLI?
[15:54] <Dimitree> Poka, ty :)
[15:55] <Poka> cclampblues: now type "cd ~/Desktop"
[15:55] <pele2> ikonia: done: iwconfig eth1 ESSID "stoke newington house project"
[15:55] <Poka> Dimitree: yw
[15:55] <Poka> cclampblues: in the xterm i.e.
[15:55] <kornelius> Ein2015:  i would love to answer u if i had an idea what these 2 mean:) just started today with ubuntu for a very 1 time.till now was using windows
[15:55] <kornelius> :)
[15:55] <pele2> ikonia: after trying your syntax that didn't work
[15:55] <cclampblues> Poka: ok i think it navigated me to the desktop
[15:56] <Poka> cclampblues: good. now type "cd <that_driver_folder>";
[15:56] <Ein2015> kornelius: GUI = graphical user interface (pretty), CLI = command line interface (just text, similar to IRC)
[15:56] <cclampblues> Poka: ok done, its there
[15:56] <guy28> how disable unbuntu to stop checking the bios time when start up
[15:56] <Dimitree> Poka,  i am sorry but it seams i have ti installed but i can't find it anywhere ? what is the command to start it from terminal ?
[15:56] <Poka> cclampblues: now type "./configure"
[15:57] <Poka> Dimitree: it's in "/bin/"; btw do $ find /bin/ -name "ping"
[15:57] <Tredje0ye> Hey there. I'm having some trouble with my standard RealTek 8139 card. 8139cp is not loaded, the network manager refuses to connect to my router, and any manual attempt has failed. dhclient won't connect either, which is strange. The install CD couldn't get online either, both the alternative and the main distro.
[15:57] <kornelius> Ein2015:  its CLI i thinkl
[15:57] <pele2> ikonia: what now?
[15:57] <cclampblues> Poka: says no such file or directory
[15:58] <Poka> cclampblues: what's your driver folder name?
[15:58] <Ein2015> kornelius: do you see any icons on your screen?
[15:58] <cclampblues> Poka: adm8211
[15:58] <Poka> cclampblues: cd ~/Desktop/adm8211;
[15:58] <kornelius>  Ein2015  right now when im chatting with u?nope...just a plain text
[15:59] <Ein2015> kornelius: no i mean anywhere on your screen (top, bottom, etc)... i mean does it look similar to windows in any way or do you see ONLY text, nothing resembling a "start bar" or anything like that.
[15:59] <cclampblues> Poka: ok
[15:59] <cclampblues> Poka: its there
[16:00] <kornelius> oh sorry mate....yeah looks a lot like windows.....!
[16:00] <Poka> cclampblues: now $ ./configure && make;
[16:00] <kornelius> Ein2015: ----yeah looks a lot like windows
[16:00] <Tredje0ye> Oh I come from Alabama with a banjo on my knee...
[16:00] <stefano_> ciao a tutti
[16:01] <Ein2015> kornelius: that's how you know it's GUI... you can see (probably at the bottom of your screen) icons and such.  :)
[16:01] <pele2> ikonia: ???
[16:01] <cclampblues> Poka: said $ command not found (is that something i wasnt supposed to type?)
[16:01] <Veinor> Is there any way to disable the sound that always plays when the logon screen comes up?
[16:01] <Poka> cclampblues: yeah leave out "$". it's just a shell prompt
[16:02] <Veinor> I disabled the one that plays as I log on, but I can't figure out how to remove the one that plays when the screen appears
[16:02] <kornelius> Ein2015:   thanks dude:) i mean i know linux is better in many ways  then windows...but why the F... has to be so diff to install a program:)
[16:02] <rich__> how do I enable syntax 'on' as default for a user?
[16:02] <Veinor> what do you mean by syntax 'on'?
[16:03] <cclampblues> Poka: ./configure no such file or directory
[16:03] <astro76> rich__: add to your ~/.vimrc
[16:03] <Poka> cclampblues: do $ ls  and paste the output to pastebin
[16:03] <Ein2015> kornelius: it's only that hard because you havent learned how yet.  once you learn how, it'll be easy as windows.  most programs are FAR easier to install than unrar... but because unrar doesn't have an open license, it's not in the repositories (where you just click it and tell it to install)
[16:03] <Poka> !pastebin > cclampblues
[16:03] <subtle> Hey! Is there a command to show the network-traffic (packet data) that goes into and out of my machine?
[16:03] <Ein2015> !pastebin > Ein2015
[16:03] <Veinor> subtle: wireshark
[16:04] <chandlerby> @subtle
[16:04] <chandlerby> install tcpdump and use it to sniff packets
[16:04] <chandlerby> it should work fine
[16:04] <Poka> subtle: dsniff
[16:04] <Ein2015> Poka: what's the -nl mean?  (ubuntu-nl)
[16:04] <kornelius> Ein2015:    thanks :) the only reason im trying to install the bloody thing is because of the movies i download.most of them r in rar format!!
[16:04] <Poka> Ein2015: netherlands
[16:05] <Ein2015> kornelius: heh kornelius the MPAA will hate you ;)
[16:05] <Ein2015> Poka: thanks :)
[16:05] <astro76> rich__: in ~/.vimrc put a line containing syntax on (no :)
[16:05] <rich__> do i need to create a vimrc file?
[16:05] <Poka> Ein2015: yw
[16:05] <Ein2015> kornelius: anyway, go to where the folder is and open it up... tell me if you see a file called INSTALL
[16:05] <cclampblues> Poka: thanks for your help. im gonna switch computers .... please give me a min and i will be back.
[16:05] <astro76> rich__: yes make the file if you don't have it
[16:05] <kornelius> Ein2015:   right on..
[16:06] <Poka> cclampblues: ok
[16:06] <shizz> how do I determine the nvidia driver I have and how do I go abouts updating my drivers?
[16:07] <Ein2015> kornelius: open that file with a text editor (you should be able to just double click it)
[16:07] <Poka> shizz: open xorg.conf and look for "nv" or "nvidia"; if you have that line, you use nvidia
[16:07] <Tredje0ye> I can't connect to my router for the life of me. The correct module is loaded, the card checks out fine, I'm online in Windows now (dualboot :P), any suggestions?
[16:07] <kornelius> just did it.trying to find the INSTALL file
[16:07] <rich__> do i just type 'syntax on'?
[16:07] <astro76> rich__: yes
[16:07] <FY2> anyone have good stream recorders/capturers?
[16:07] <rich__> its not working?
[16:08] <kornelius>  Ein2015  just did it.trying to find the INSTALL file
[16:08] <Poka> rich__: ESC, then ":", then type "syn on"
[16:08] <astro76> rich__: does it work when you type :syntax on when editing a file?
[16:08] <rich__> i want it to use it each time poka
[16:08] <rich__> yeah
[16:08] <astro76> rich__: did you restart vim?
[16:08] <Poka> rich__: $ vim ~/.vimrc; put syn on there;
[16:08] <Poka> "syn on"
[16:09] <astro76> yes poka that's what I told him
[16:09] <Poka> rich__: ok put "syntax on" instead;
[16:09] <astro76> either should work
[16:09] <kornelius> Ein2015:   no INSTALL file.the  closest i got to it is Skrivebord/unrar/unpack.cpp
[16:09] <rich__> its working nowq
[16:09] <Poka> yes
[16:09] <rich__> cheers
[16:09] <astro76> enjoy
[16:10] <kornelius>  Ein2015 ergo--- unpack ...but nothing happens when i double click it
[16:10] <Ein2015> kornelius: actually, unrar is in the repositories... you can install from there
[16:10] <Ein2015> kornelius: open up Synaptic Package Manager
[16:10] <shizz> Poka: how do I open xorg.conf to look?
[16:11] <Pici> !rar | kornelius
[16:11] <ubotu> kornelius: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[16:11] <Ein2015> kornelius: you can find it in the menus... should be under System or Administration....
[16:11] <Poka> shizz: $ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf;
[16:12] <Ein2015> Poka or Pici: is there a list of everything ubotu has?  all those little snippits?
[16:12] <shizz> ty
[16:12] <Poka> Ein2015: check it's factoids
[16:12] <Pici> Ein2015: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <kornelius> Ein2015:   thanks for the help buddy, but my son is bugging me big time:) dudty calls.will try to come later  or to fallow ur instr!have a great day-night wherever  u r:)
[16:13] <Ein2015> u too kornelius ttyl
[16:13] <pele1> ikonia: please? Can we continue the procedure?
[16:14] <aztracker1> quick question.. re: lowend hardware raid, would the Highpoint RocketRaid 3120 or the 3-Ware 9650SE-2LP be better?
[16:15] <astro76> aztracker1: try #hardware
[16:15] <pele1> ok, I think I give up
[16:15] <pele1> Can someone here give support for money?
[16:15] <Coconut> can anyone help me with nvidia-driver please?
[16:16] <shizz> Poka: yes, it says Driver: "nv"
[16:16] <aztracker1> astro76, thx
[16:16] <astro76> pele1: people here give support for free, if you need paid support, check out Canonical's offering
[16:16] <Poka> shizz: ok
[16:16] <rich__> fcuk computers are hard work, its such a mission trying to learn everything
[16:17] <Poka> !nvidia | Coconut
[16:17] <ubotu> Coconut: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:17] <shizz> rich__ stop "trying" to learn everything
[16:17] <rich__> what should i be doing then?
[16:17] <pele1> astro76: thanks - though, I'm in this room for about 8 hours now, and no one could stay with me for more than a few minutes...
[16:17] <shizz> yoda says, there is no "try" there is do or do not.
[16:17] <dickydoo2> Hi, anyone know how i can run an internet speed test using the terminal?
[16:17] <Dimitree> Poka, :[ please ping doesn't display lsot packages altho i can see it lag but it doesn't say pachage lost :{ Network Tools also don't display lost packages :[ pleas help i need something that shows lost packages and counts them or something like that
[16:17] <pele1> astro76: and canonical will be very expensive, I guess
[16:18] <Poka> Dimitree: hping then.
[16:18] <julio-saraiva> ei
[16:18] <julio-saraiva> alguem ai me ajuda
[16:18] <astro76> pele1: it's surprisingly cheap actually
[16:18] <NW2190> Hey, I have a broken link in my /usr/bin directory (its my java link), does anyone know how to fix that?
[16:18] <astro76> pele1: http://canonical.com/services/support
[16:18] <Poka> Dimitree: package ==> hping2;
[16:18] <mexle> so bin wider da
[16:18] <Coconut> thanks Poka ;)
[16:18] <Systemless> when I run glxgears and Audacious media player (or other apps) at the same time, then my system "freezes" every 10s for abozut 2s with lots of load from Xorg
[16:18] <pele1> astro76: I will check, then... :-) - maybe YOU know something about wifi in ubuntu?
[16:18] <Poka> !english | melter
[16:18] <ubotu> melter: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:19] <Poka> !english | mexle
[16:19] <Dimitree> Poka,  thank you !!!
[16:19] <ubotu> mexle: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:19] <astro76> pele1: I know mine works without effort ;)
[16:19] <Poka> Dimitree: yw
[16:19] <astro76> !de | mexle
[16:19] <ubotu> mexle: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:19] <Poka> astro76: i bet that's better ;)
[16:19] <Systemless> Anyone has a nvidia ti4200 running on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[16:20] <pele3> astro76: mine worked too with no effort!! it just stopped, one bright day...
[16:21] <pele3> astro76: 250$ per year... well... it is nice per year - it is cheap. but I only need an hour or so...
[16:21] <shizz> mozilla errors, could someone please help me?
[16:21] <cclampblue1> Poka: ok im on my xubuntu box now
[16:22] <Poka> cclampblue1: ok
[16:22] <shizz> i need to install the adobe plugin and the flash plugin, I do the auto-download/install thing and I get these two errors:
[16:22] <shizz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:22] <cclampblue1> Poka: how do i paste it again?
[16:22] <rich__> im gettin a lot of kernel messages relating tonetbios broadcasts from a windows machine on my network
[16:22] <rich__> can i divert these messages?
[16:22] <Poka> cclampblue1: select the text and click your left mouse.
[16:23] <pele3> And that's a very basic problem!! nothing special! I only need to know basic stuff like how to access the internet. no specific bugs, no specific configuration, no specific hardware - DELL which is sold WITH the ubuntu already. everything is very basic...
[16:23] <lukasz> I can't seem to logout it freezes after I logout
[16:23] <dbmoodb> i propose that everyone gives out free ubuntu cd's to those who look like they will actually try them-posted this is defocus already so i admit to two channel postings
[16:23] <nastas> anyone knows who is the best network/wifi manager for ubuntu?
[16:24] <astro76> !best
[16:24] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[16:24] <dbmoodb> got someting against networkmanager nastas ?
[16:24] <tomtt> anybody else experiencing borked apache update causing apt errors?
[16:24] <warddr> hello, can I burn the ubuntu installation cd also on a DVD?
[16:24] <lukasz> I will try again since I removed somethinmg
[16:24] <nastas> sometimes it acts strange!
[16:24] <pele3> nastas: maybe you know something about wifi in ubuntu (basic stuff) and can guide me for 10 minutes?
[16:24] <astro76> warddr: yes I believe so
[16:25] <Ein2015> warddr: yes
[16:25] <warddr> ty, I think my cd's are to small
[16:25] <astro76> warddr: they are 650MB not 700MB ?
[16:25] <nastas> like?
[16:25] <warddr> they are 700, but the cd self test gives an error
[16:26] <astro76> warddr: did you check the md5sum on the downloaded .iso?
[16:26] <nastas> pele3 nedd help?
[16:26] <warddr> yes, the iso is correct
[16:27] <ikonia> warddr: have you md5'd the images
[16:27] <warddr> yes
[16:27] <ikonia> and it passed ok?
[16:27] <warddr> yes
[16:27] <astro76> warddr: have you checked the md5sum? j/k! ;)
[16:27] <rich__> where do i determine the logging info for network devices
[16:27] <ikonia> so the problem is in th eburn
[16:27] <ikonia> the burn
[16:27] <astro76> warddr: the other thing people usually try is burning at slow speed
[16:27] <ikonia> rich__: logging info ? network devices, please be more specific
[16:28] <warddr> I always use the slowest speed, 8x
[16:28] <pele3> nastas: really need...
[16:28] <rich__> im getting kernel messages in the system log relating to netbios broadcasts, where is this coming from?
[16:28] <ikonia> pele3: how you getting on
[16:28] <pele3> nastas: I'm here for about 8.5 hours seeking for help
[16:28] <cclampblue1> Poka: how do i copy the text from the terminal window
[16:28] <ikonia> rich__: are you running samba ?
[16:28] <pele3> ikonia: I'm not getting on! welcome back...
[16:28] <ikonia> pele3: sorry, I'm at work I keep having to swap
[16:28] <rich__> yeah]
[16:29] <ikonia> pele3: so what happened when you did "iwconfig eth1 ESSID="sid""
[16:29] <pele3> ikonia: I understand, of course.
[16:29] <nastas> pele3 tell me about ur problem
[16:29] <ikonia> rich__: probably from that
[16:29] <pele3> ikonia: nothing happened
[16:29] <rich__> ok
[16:29] <pele3> nastas, you can join - now ikonia came back to try to help
[16:30] <pele3> nastas: or you can forget about it, and if ikonia will go again I will ask you... thanks...
[16:30] <pele3> ikonia: nothing happened. I have rebooted, and things are still as they were
[16:30] <Poka> cclampblue1: do you have a mouse?
[16:30] <ikonia> pele3: right - in the terminal do "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID=your sid"
[16:30] <nastas> ok
[16:31] <cclampblue1> Poka: yes i tried left click and it seemed to just scroll to the next line...
[16:31] <astro76> cclampblue1: select the text to copy it, then middle click to paste
[16:31] <Poka> :D
[16:31] <pele3> ikonia: done already!
[16:31] <panfist> i was wondering if there was any way to to login to an ubuntu machine via xdmcp into a persistent session...or alternatively, there are apps that i run as a user which i would like to leave always on as a service, how can i do this?
[16:31] <ikonia> pele3: ok and what does iwconfig show - is it associcated
[16:31] <pele3> ikonia: and it's "... eth1 ESSID "myssid"
[16:31] <Poka> cclampblue1: select, left-click it and then right click to paste.
[16:32] <ikonia> pele3: there you go, (I don't have access to wirless tools to check)
[16:32] <pele3> ikonia: how can I know?
[16:32] <Poka> right+left to paste cclampblue1 or middle click.
[16:32] <astro76> panfist: you can use 'screen' to have a persistant terminal that you can detach and reattach to, and always runs
[16:33] <slipttee1> yo, repository of ubuntu warty still work ?
[16:33] <ikonia> pele3 iwconfig should show you
[16:33] <ikonia> slipttee1: it still exist
[16:33] <slipttee1>  deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty main multiverse universe
[16:33] <astro76> slipttee1: nope
[16:33] <astro76> not officially
[16:33] <pele3> ikonia: still it looks like here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54850/ - nothing changed except invalid misc
[16:33] <cclampblue1> Poka: how do i copy from the terminal?
[16:33] <slipttee1> astro76: ?
[16:34] <cclampblue1> adm8211.h     adm8211_ioctl.c  avs_caphdr.h  ieee80211_sta.c  INSTALL  kernel.patch  NOTES    TODO
[16:34] <cclampblue1> adm8211_hw.c  adm8211_ioctl.h  Changelog     ieee80211_sta.h  Kconfig  Makefile      rdate.h
[16:34] <slipttee1> ikonia: ?
[16:34] <pele3> ikonia: oh, sorry - it also has Bit Rate 54 mb/s
[16:34] <ikonia> slipttee1: what ?
[16:34] <pele3> ikonia: oops!
[16:34] <cclampblue1> oops sorry all
[16:34] <astro76> slipttee1: the oldest supported release is 6.06
[16:34] <ikonia> pele3: ok, but its' still unassociated
[16:34] <slipttee1> repository warty ?
[16:34] <pele3> ikonia: it doesn't have the "unassociated" part!
[16:34] <cclampblue1> Poka: there it is
[16:34] <jrib> slipttee1: you need to upgrade, warty is way too old
[16:34] <Ein2015> anybody here know why the date goes wrong randomly?  and then i have to use ntpdate to fix it?
[16:34] <rich__> is there a quick way of adding cgi and php support of apache2?
[16:34] <Poka> cclampblue1: where?
[16:35] <Ein2015> errr not date, but time.
[16:35] <slipttee1> jrib: i like it
[16:35] <slipttee1> :-)
[16:35] <pele3> ikonia: it starts with 802.11g
[16:35] <cclampblue1> Poka: in channel after I asked how to copy
[16:35] <ikonia> pele3: what does ?
[16:35] <LukeML> Ein2015, your CMOS battery could be low pon power
[16:35] <jrib> slipttee1: you are not getting security updates
[16:35] <LukeML> Ein2015, is it an old machine?
[16:35] <slipttee1> jrib: maybe not
[16:35] <ronny1> do you guys know where the Sound Blaster X-fi sound card is supported in Ubuntu (linux)
[16:35] <Poka> cclampblue1: alt+F2, type "gnome-terminal"; cd ~/Desktop/<the_driver_folder>; then select, right-click, copy.
[16:35] <slipttee1> jrib: repository still exists ?
[16:35] <pele3> ikonia: sorry for the mess. iwconfig gives me something that starts with IEEE 802.11g instead of the previous "unassociated"
[16:36] <jrib> slipttee1: you can use old-releases.ubuntu.com as a repository, but seriously, you need to upgrade.  You will like the more recent versions too
[16:36] <ikonia> pele3: does it have associated written anywhere
[16:36] <amenado> pele3 you are too lazy to paste the exact result, thats why we keep guessing, just take the time to paste the result instead of repastingold stuff
[16:36] <slipttee1> jrib: pentium III 246MB DIMM
[16:36] <cclampblue1> Poka: gnome-terminal failed to run
[16:36] <pele3> amenado: that's not fair. I use 2 computers, and it's about 5-10 minutes to paste it all manually
[16:37] <cclampblue1> Poka: no such file or directory
[16:37] <Poka> cclampblue1: what did you type?
[16:37] <jrib> slipttee1: so?  use xubuntu if you feel it can't run gnome smoothly
[16:37] <astro76> slipttee1: that doesn't change the fact that you should upgrade
[16:37] <Andres_22rio4> hello, how to send a popup message from console to the desktop?
[16:37] <pele3> ikonia: no, it doesn't say it anywhere.
[16:37] <amenado> pele3 it is not fair to assist you if you do not want to do your part
[16:37] <cclampblue1> Poka: gnome-terminal
[16:37] <pele3> ikonia: give me 2 minutes and I'll fix the paste bin
[16:37] <slipttee1> jrib: sources.list work in warty ?
[16:37] <jrib> Andres_22rio4: zenity or notify-send
[16:37] <ikonia> pele3: then it's still no associated, I'm not sure how it will deal with ESSID's with spaces in
[16:37] <slipttee1> old.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted ........
[16:38] <pele3> amenado: I will do it.
[16:38] <cclampblue1> Poka: I am in xubuntu (if it makes a difference)
[16:38] <pele3> ikonia: I used "..." and it seems like it recognizes it.
[16:38] <jrib> slipttee1: that's not what I said
[16:38] <ikonia> pele3: you used three dots as an ESSID ?
[16:38] <slipttee1> xubuntu sucks :S
[16:38] <amenado> ikonia-> we have been looking at his old paste, so we are guessing, he is too lazy to paste the results we asked
[16:38] <slipttee1> fluxbuntu better :D
[16:38] <shizz> could someone help me with a simple problem please?
[16:38] <slipttee1> fluxbuntu.org :D
[16:38] <jrib> slipttee1: so use it, but use an up to date version
[16:38] <slipttee1> official project ?
[16:39] <goppp_> hello
[16:39] <puplin_laptop> i have a problem with audio on this machine
[16:39] <shizz> upon updating my add/remove applications I am encountering an error:
[16:39] <goppp_> how do I get mutli mode aka dual monitor support in ubntu
[16:39] <puplin_laptop> it won't do anything
[16:39] <goppp_> I went to screen and graphics
[16:39] <goppp_> and got nothing
[16:39] <Poka> cclampblue1: shoudn't.
[16:39] <slipttee1> rene@computer:~$ wget -c http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/warty-release-install-i386.iso
[16:39] <slipttee1> :D
[16:39] <panfist> so i was logging in to my ubuntu machine last night via xdmcp...i didnt think anything changed this morning, but now after i log in i get a blank screen forever
[16:39] <ikonia> shizz just ask the question
[16:39] <asdroz0r> hi. I have a problem with ubuntu gutsy. After a FRESH install of ubuntu, at first run it automatically installs ATi drivers, then requests reboot. After reboot, the computer stops responding (or at least displays a black screen and no activity) after loading the os. Any suggestions? Everything is done automatically.
[16:39] <pele3> ikonia, amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54864/
[16:39] <slipttee1> jrib: http://hup.hu/node/7237
[16:39] <slipttee1> nice not :D
[16:40] <danbhfive> !enter | goppp_
[16:40] <shizz> it says manually dpkg --configure -a  :: so i do this in terminal as "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and the response from the terminal is as follow:
[16:40] <ubotu> goppp_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:40] <DRebellion> !dualhead | goppp_
[16:40] <cclampblue1> Poka: did i type it wrong: alt+f2 then in the window gnome-terminal   ?
[16:40] <ubotu> goppp_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:40] <ikonia> pele3: ok - thats associated now
[16:40] <shizz> pkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0059' near line 1:
[16:40] <shizz>  field name `' must be followed by colon
[16:40] <ikonia> pele3: so now you need to run dhclient to get an ip address
[16:40] <jrib> slipttee1: what am I looking for?
[16:40] <pele3> ikonia: oh, good!
[16:40] <puplin_laptop> I'm using a fresh install of gutsy, I
[16:40] <puplin_laptop> nvm
[16:40] <slipttee1> jrib: warty full work :D
[16:40] <ikonia> pele3 it's got th e mac address of the router - so it's talking to it
[16:40] <ronny1> do you guys know where the Sound Blaster X-fi sound card is supported in Ubuntu (linux)?
[16:40] <pele3> ikonia: worked!
[16:40] <jrib> slipttee1: k
[16:40] <Poka> cclampblue1: can you navigate to the xfce menu and then find gnome-terminal?
[16:41] <pele3> ikonia: still no internet connection
[16:41] <amenado> pele3-> now what is all that #...  you typed a command? what did you do there?
[16:41] <ikonia> pele3: look at 1.) your ip address 2.) your gateway 3.) your dns servers
[16:41] <Gnea> hey, is anyone else having problems getting http://www.google.com to come up?
[16:41] <ikonia> pele3: it depends what information your dhcp server gabve you
[16:41] <jrib> Gnea: no
[16:41] <John08> Hello, SELinux is preventing users from logging to their accounts, FYI I disabled the anonymous  accounts
[16:41] <pele3> amenado: those are the comments that were in the file before I have edited it
[16:41] <ikonia> Gnea: no works well
[16:41] <Poka> Gnea: nope
[16:41] <ikonia> John08: ubuntu doesn't have selinux enabled by default
[16:41] <Gnea> ikonia: hrm ok
[16:41] <Poka> Gnea: www.google.com/ncr
[16:42] <danbhfive> Poka: I don't think gnome-terminal is installed in xubuntu.  Xubuntu, by its nature, does not have gnome installed
[16:42] <pele3> ikonia: "bound to 192.168.1.5" - I guess that this is MY ip now.
[16:42] <amenado> pele3-> we did not ask you yet, on the contents of interfaces, only the result of iwconfig...
[16:42] <slipttee1> jrib: look ubuntu.com website :D
[16:42] <cclampblue1> Poka: no its not there.
[16:42] <puplin_laptop> I'm using a fresh install of gutsy, (with all the alsa- packages installed) i have an ESS Solo audio chipset, and there's no audio. I remember having it working before, but i can't remember how i got it to work
[16:42] <slipttee1> beatiful
[16:42] <slipttee1> kkkkkkkkk
[16:42] <Poka> danbhfive: hmm..
[16:42] <slipttee1> :P
[16:42] <ikonia> pele3: ok so "cat /etc/resolve.conf" and see what your dns servers are
[16:42] <pele3> ikonia: the router's ip is 192.168.1.1
[16:42] <ikonia> pele3: I think you'll find that is the problem
[16:42] <asdroz0r> :( anyone able and willing to help with my problem described above? (about 2 minutes ago)
[16:42] <John08> ikonia, but it is better to have it on, right, how can I allow users to access certain directories
[16:42] <ikonia> John08: are you using ubuntu ?
[16:42] <pele3> ikonia: can't find that file
[16:43] <amenado> pele3   pastebin the result of      route -n
[16:43] <Poka> cclampblue1: go back to xterm.
[16:43] <ikonia> John08: because selinux isn't enabled by default so I'm curious to how you disabled something thats not enabled
[16:43] <ikonia> pele3: /etc/resolv.conf
[16:43] <John08> ikonia, actually I am using red hat for this server :(
[16:43] <ikonia> John08: right- so why are you asking in an ubuntu support room
[16:43] <pele3> ikonia: search Belkin // nameserver 192.168.1.1
[16:43] <cclampblue1> Poka: hang on ill just type it all in....
[16:43] <Poka> cclampblue1: ok
[16:43] <shizz> upon reloading my out-dated Add/Remove Applications I am presented with an error,  it says manually dpkg --configure -a  :: so i do this in terminal as "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and the response from the terminal is as follows: pkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0059' near line 1:
[16:43] <shizz>  field name `' must be followed by colon
[16:43] <ikonia> pele3: looks good, try "nslookup www.google.com"
[16:44] <puplin_laptop> any suggestions about my problem (see above)?
[16:44] <shizz> what do I do now?
[16:44] <ikonia> John08: why are you not using redhat's support process ?
[16:44] <shizz> i continue to see the same error
[16:44] <slipttee1> he
[16:44] <pele3> ikonia: what should I see? it gave me a few ips
[16:44] <Poka> cclampblue1: do you have xfterm4 installed btw?
[16:44] <ikonia> pele3: ahh thats good
[16:44] <ikonia> pele3: so you should have interenet connection then
[16:45] <Poka> cclampblue1: alt+F2, type "xfterm4";
[16:45] <asdroz0r> anyone able and willing to help with my problem described above? (about 5 minutes ago)
[16:45] <danbhfive> shizz: I don't know, but I could throw a few ideas at you
[16:45] <shizz> please do, danbhfive im haning
[16:45] <shizz> hanging*
[16:45] <pele3> ikonia: the icon on the gnome says there isn't... but there is, you are right! :-)
[16:45] <ikonia> pele3: that icon is probably for your wired connection
[16:45] <danbhfive> shizz: ok, try sudo apt-get clean
[16:46] <pele3> ikonia: well, should I restart and leave all options as they are?
[16:46] <ikonia> pele3: you need to change the options in your interfaces file to represent what you've done here
[16:46] <shizz> done danbhfive
[16:46] <astro76> asdroz0r: if no one answers feel free to repeat the question every 5 or 10 minutes
[16:46] <asdroz0r> allright, ty
[16:46] <pele3> ikonia: oh
[16:46] <danbhfive> shizz: now try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:46] <pele3> ikonia: and what about WPA? should I forget about it with ubuntu?
[16:46] <ikonia> danbhfive: how is that going to help him ?
[16:47] <ikonia> pele3: you can enable wep if you want ?
[16:47] <shizz> danbhfive: :( same error
[16:47] <slipttee1> Where can I request cds free of all versions of ubuntu? 4.10 to 7.10?
[16:47] <ikonia> shizz: delete the file from your cache archive
[16:47] <ikonia> shizz: then try again
[16:47] <cclampblue1> Poka: here is whats listed under ls of the driver diectory:  adm8211.h  adm8211_ioctl.c  acs_caphdr.h  ieee80211_sta.c  INSTALL  kernel.patch  NOTES  TODO  adm8211_hw.c  adm8211_ioctl.h  Changelog  ieee80211_sta.h  Kconfig  Makefile  rdate.h
[16:47] <pele3> ikonia: in the router? I don't think I have that option
[16:47] <astro76> slipttee1: you can get free cd for the latest version only from shipit
[16:47] <danbhfive> shizz: do you know what package its trying to install?
[16:47] <astro76> !shipit | slipttee1
[16:47] <ubotu> slipttee1: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[16:47] <ikonia> pele3: then you can't use it
[16:47] <Poka> cclampblue1: read INSTALL
[16:47] <shizz> ikonia: " /var/lib/dpkg/updates " ?
[16:47] <danbhfive> shizz: or, do you know what program you were installing?
[16:47] <ikonia> shizz: yup
[16:47] <jrib> slipttee1: your loco.  shipit won't have all versions
[16:47] <pele3> ikonia: ok then, I don't care.
[16:47] <YeTr2> ... lack of vmware playing in ubuntu 7.10 is forcing me to consider a new OS :(
[16:48] <Deoki> hello
[16:48] <shizz> danbhfive: i was installing adobe and flash plugin for mozilla and got that error
[16:48] <asdroz0r> I have a problem with Ubuntu Gutsy. After a fresh install, at first run it automatically installs (with my permission) ATi drivers, then requests reboot. After reboot, the computer stops responding (or at least displays a black screen and no activity) after loading the os. Any suggestions? Everything is done automatically, I just say it's ok to update the drivers.
[16:48] <cclampblue1> Poka: can i open a privat chat widow with you?
[16:48] <pele3> ikonia: so - what exactly have we done in the terminal, so I
[16:48] <danbhfive> ikonia: I don't know what to do to help him, I'm just trying stuff
[16:48] <Gnea> YeTr2: "lack of"?
[16:48] <shizz> danbhfive:  but I was doing it with the mozilla requesting to do so
[16:48] <Poka> cclampblue1: i am not registered with freenode.
[16:48] <pele3> ikonia: 'll put it in the interfaces file?
[16:48] <Poka> cclampblue1: so won't help in there.
[16:48] <ikonia> danbhfive: then don't - if you don't know what your doing suggesting random stuff is dangerous
[16:48] <slipttee1> Where can I make the request free cds with all versions of ubuntu? 4.10 to 7.10? box Collection! ;-)
[16:48] <danbhfive> shizz: ok, try opening synaptic
[16:48] <Poka> cclampblue1: but you are very close to installing now. so you can ask other people here.
[16:48] <ikonia> pele3: all you have done is remove the encyption and set the ESSID correctly
[16:48] <shizz> ikonia: i will delete the cache file
[16:48] <Poka> cclampblue1: gotta go dude. ;)
[16:48] <Deoki> is there anyone that could help me with the legendary "ATI X1300 driver instalation" issue?
[16:48] <magnetron> !shipit | slipttee1
[16:48] <ubotu> slipttee1: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[16:49] <shizz> danbhfive: i will try this first
[16:49] <cclampblue1> Poka: thanks anyway
[16:49] <YeTr2> Gnea: vmware player is in the earlier 7.x release. it diddn't make it into the recent 7.x release
[16:49] <Poka> cclampblue1: yw
[16:49] <asdroz0r> Deoki i have ati x1950pro and ubuntu will not work :D
[16:49] <YeTr2> Gnea: and it still hasn't
[16:49] <pele3> ikonia: and can I check it without rebooting?
[16:49] <ikonia> pele3: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:49] <Gnea> YeTr2: and yet, i can download it from vmware.com, install it and it... works
[16:49] <pele3> ikonia: I put "wireless-essid "Stoke ..." and removed all wpa lines from the file
[16:50] <amenado> pele3 here is a thought to ponder, why did you attempt to use WPA/WPA2?  were the other 6 users using it too?
[16:50] <ikonia> pele3: give it a try
[16:50] <Deoki> asdroz0r: dows your screen goes blank too?
[16:50] <ikonia> amenado: why did he use it when he's just told me the router doesn't support it
[16:50] <asdroz0r> Deoki: yes, it does
[16:51] <YeTr2> Gnea: I've done that too, but I'm having networking issues that never exist before now in the applications in the win32 vmware that require semi-specific settings.
[16:51] <pele3> amenado: I used it because of the rest of the people.
[16:51] <amenado> ikonia-> thats what i was wondering, why he has those activated in his interfaces file..what made him decide to do it?
[16:51] <asdroz0r> Deoki: looks like ubuntu and ati are not friends :)
[16:51] <amenado> pele3 because the rest of the people what?
[16:51] <pele3> ikonia: not working (the restart)
[16:51] <slipttee1> http://xsos.deviantart.com/art/ubuntu-box-set-11944873
[16:51] <slipttee1> ;-)
[16:51] <FY2> help: I just recorded a desktop session and it's stuck in "in process of saving to disk"
[16:51] <FY2> any idea where the file might be?
[16:51] <pele3> amenado: the rest of the people wanted secured network
[16:51] <evil_tech> ship-it have xubuntu yet?
[16:51] <dusty_> FY2, I bet your using isanbul recording software?
[16:51] <Gnea> YeTr2: have you searched the vmware.com support site?
[16:52] <FY2> dusty_: indeed
[16:52] <pele3> ikonia: it's not getting DHCP offers.
[16:52] <ikonia> pele3: iwconfig eth1 see if it's associated
[16:52] <Deoki> asdroz0r, I think its just a thing between some models, like yours and mine. Im sick of not having effects working and not even being able to update my drivers
[16:52] <asdroz0r> I have a problem with Ubuntu Gutsy. After a fresh install, at first run it automatically installs (with my permission) ATi drivers, then requests reboot. After reboot, the computer stops responding (or at least displays a black screen and no activity) after loading the os. Any suggestions? Everything is done automatically, I just say it's ok to update the drivers. Help?
[16:52] <asdroz0r> :)
[16:52] <amenado> pele3-> are they all using ubuntu or linux kind of os?
[16:52] <dusty_> FY2, I had the same issue with it last night.  Trying to record my dual monitor + compiz desktop.  It kept saying saving.. not sure what the problem was, I am going to look for using another program.
[16:53] <pele3> ikonia: not associated
[16:53] <FY2> dusty: crap.. I was recording a live stream of the NYG parade
[16:53] <ikonia> pele3: there you go then
[16:53] <eshaase> is there any way to install flashplugin-nonfree using the older tar file?
[16:53] <YeTr2> Gnea: if it was a package, I could bring it to the attention of the developers that such a behavior exists, and then they could go about it, I don't have the time to figure it out. I have several dozen trouble tickets of my own to figure out.
[16:53] <pele3> amenado: no, everyone are xp
[16:53] <FY2> I couldn't find a stream capture program in time
[16:53] <asdroz0r> Deoki: did you try manual installation of the drivers?
[16:53] <pele3> ikonia: what, am I typing something wrong in the file?
[16:53] <DRebellion> eshaase: you can install the latest from adobe's website if you wish...
[16:53] <ikonia> pele3: I don't know what your typing
[16:53] <amenado> pele3 you have to understand, enabling WPA/WPA2 is only between your client and your AP not really securing the end client
[16:54] <Deoki> asdroz0r, you, many many times. no luck.
[16:54] <Deoki> there are TONS of users with the same problem.
[16:54] <eshaase> DRebellion: is that pretty difficult? i'm assuming its a standard linux install (configure, make install, etc.)
[16:54] <asdroz0r> Deoki: ok... maybe someone succeeded :D
[16:54] <pele3> amenado: I see.
[16:54] <amenado> pele3 once more, paste the correct contents of the existing interfaces file...am sure you have to remove those wpa related lines
[16:54] <YeTr2> eshaase: bad. no. bad dog. use checkinstall
[16:54] <Gnea> YeTr2: well i'm sure you're not the only one. i'm not getting paid to do the class that i'm in right now. the vmware support site tends to answer my vmware woes 99% of the time accurately.
[16:54] <DRebellion> eshaase: no, adobe don't supply source code :(  you have to run the executable they provide
[16:54] <pele3> amenado: I will post the whole file in a minute
[16:54] <Deoki> asdroz0r, well, yes, but in Gutsy I think not... :(
[16:55] <sandr-> I'm trying to play chess in 3D but I get this message: OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings ; what packages do I need to install?
[16:55] <pele3> ikonia, amenado: I will copy the whole file in 3-5 minutes and send you. Thanks!
[16:56] <asdroz0r> I have a problem with Ubuntu Gutsy. After a fresh install, at first run it automatically installs (with my permission) ATi drivers, then requests reboot. After reboot, the computer stops responding (or at least displays a black screen and no activity) after loading the os. Any suggestions? Everything is done automatically, I just say it's ok to update the drivers. Manually installing the drivers has the same output. Help?
[16:56] <DRebellion> !repeat | asdroz0r
[16:56] <ubotu> asdroz0r: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:56] <asdroz0r> :))
[16:56] <asdroz0r> i just repeat every 5-10 minutes :d
[16:56] <eshaase> DRebellion: is there a good chance i can break stuff if i try? =)
[16:56] <DRebellion> sandr-: install python-opengl
[16:56] <FY2> dusty_ found the files in /tmp
[16:57] <danbhfive> asdroz0r: that repeat was only 3 minutes  :P
[16:57] <LjL> !away > Repley|AWAY    (Repley|AWAY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:57] <sandr-> k thx DRebellion
[16:57] <DRebellion> eshaase: i would recommend waiting for the official package from ubuntu. however, if you can't forsake youtube for that long then i don't see how the install can do a _huge_ amount of harm...
[16:57] <asdroz0r> danbhfive: yeah, times seems to go faster when waiting hopeless :D
[16:57] <asdroz0r> sorry
[16:58] <DRebellion> sandr-: also, python-gtkglext1
[16:58] <Deoki> asdroz0r, Im waiting for someone to help you out cause I seem to have the same issue ^_^
[16:58] <danbhfive> asdroz0r: have you searched the forums?  You probably aren't going to get help here
[16:58] <sandr-> k thanks ! it works
[17:00] <Deoki> ok.. so here it goes... "Desperate user trying to update a X1300 driver to enable effects but with no success" REWARDING A KitKat chocolate bar if you live nearby in Portugal! ;_;
[17:00] <rickyrich> hi all just a question, grub can manage also the new mac os leopard?
[17:00] <asdroz0r> danbhfive: i have, so has deoki. A lot of people seem to have this problem, few have found solutions. Most just migrated to another OS. I'm not yet willing to give up, I installed drivers from the official ati website and drivers provided by community members. Nothing works so far. I was hoping for.. anything
[17:01] <amenado> asdroz0r-> same experience with liveCD ?
[17:02] <amenado> Deoki-> what is the effects you are after?
[17:02] <asdroz0r> amenado: the only version i used was the one downloaded from the ubuntu website (a mirror)
[17:02] <asdroz0r> amenado: black screen and no activity after reboot
[17:02] <lordleemo> asdroz0r: possibly try that m8 seems a few peeps have had success with it
[17:02] <lordleemo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:02] <amenado> asdroz0r-> if you have the liveCD try that and see if it works..
[17:02] <jmlane> Is there a way to make a folder that is writable, readable, and accessible by all users (777), but that the files within this folder can only be deleted by users with write permission on that individual file?
[17:03] <amenado> asdroz0r-> does it say live ?
[17:03] <amenado> jmlane-> have you seen the permission of  /tmp  directory?
[17:03] <jmlane> I want to make a shared file directory, where everyone can add and edited files they (or their group) owns, but nothing otherwise.
[17:03] <Deoki> amenado: Compiz and others, but the problem is related with the ati drivers getting Ubuntu to blank screen after boot. asdroz0r is having the exact same problem.
[17:03] <jmlane> amenado: Nope. Does that involve the sticky bit?
[17:03] <amenado> jmlane yes
[17:04] <asdroz0r> it says Ubuntu 7.10 i386
[17:04] <asdroz0r> amenado: it says Ubuntu 7.10 i386
[17:04] <bardyr> how can i empty a file?
[17:04] <amenado> asdroz0r-> i dont know if its exact same as liveCD...visit the site again and see
[17:04] <jmlane> amenado: that is exactly what I want, thanks
[17:05] <LukeML> When you installed did you have a full graphics desktop while installing
[17:05] <amenado> jmlane-> why do you want to duplicate /tmp  functionality?
[17:06] <asdroz0r> amenado: yes, it is the livecd
[17:06] <pike_> bardyr: a text file?
[17:06] <Arelis> Hey guys. I am looking for an alternative to firefox, for Ubuntu. I've tried epiphany, but didn't like it. I'd use opera if it didn't have a screwed up Flash plugin. What browsers are there?
[17:06] <shizz> which computer language would help me to understand Linux?
[17:07] <danbhfive> Arelis: how is opera's flash screwed up?
[17:07] <amenado> Deoki-> i dont use those features, anyhow, once you installed and at first boot you only get a blank screen?
[17:07] <jrib> shizz: depends on what you mean by understanding linux
[17:07] <bardyr> pike_, yea
[17:07] <pike_> bardyr: echo "" > filename will basically create the file empty overwriting current one
[17:07] <zozobra> If I'm going to use tune2fs to change the percentage of reserved filesystem blocks of my ext3 file system, will I lose the data that's on it?
[17:07] <LukeML> There's Konquerer altho it's more for KDE
[17:07] <jrib> !browsers > arelis (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:07] <Arelis> danbhfive, well, first off it doesn't load (don't even get a grey space). Secondly in Konqueror (which is almost the same as Opera, i think), i get a gray field.
[17:07] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/gaming/portal-flash-version/
[17:07] <Kitar|st> nice
[17:07] <pele3> ikonia, amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54870/
[17:07] <zozobra> @Arelis> what is it that you do not like about firefox? what are you looking for in a browser?
[17:08] <Arelis> zozobra, Well, i'm wanting to do most of my work on the web.
[17:08] <pele3> ikonia: still no DHCPOFFERS
[17:08] <asdroz0r> amenado: after fresh install, ubuntu works with 2d ati drivers. But after drivers update, neither 'fglrx' driver nor official ati drivers work. So, we have no 3d support.
[17:08] <jmlane> amenado: Shared file repository for all users on my machine. Essentially a shared FTP directory.
[17:08] <shizz> jrib: I am reading over the "info man" and "man -k man" and I'm realising linux is very cool. I dont know really any languages but I have attempted c/c++, js, and html...and I am now wondering what I could actually do with a linux operating system.
[17:08] <Arelis> zozobra, So, i need a REALLY good, stable browser.
[17:08] <Arelis> zozobra, and firefox clearly has many memory leaks and crashes often
[17:08] <amenado> jmlane ah okay, it makes sense..
[17:08] <pele3> ikonia, amenado: only the top 15 lines
[17:08] <hever_> Hi there. I've a mont --bind /etc/passwd /somwhere/passwd. If I add a new user the /somewhere/passwd is not updated. Why? Its a hardlink!
[17:09] <danbhfive> Arelis: maybe its not installed, you could try installing it manually.  But, to be honest, I have had trouble with the flash plugin in opera.  It works, but breaks often.
[17:09] <jrib> shizz: read the rute book if you want a better understanding of linux.  If you want to be more comfortable on the command line, then learn shell scripting like bash for example.  If you want to understand the linux kernel learn C.  I think python is a nifty language, so you can learn that because I think it is nifty
[17:09] <zozobra> Arelis, this latest version of firefox is the only one I've seen have issues. There is an update coming soon.
[17:09] <amenado> pele3-> what is all that aobut from line 18 down?
[17:09] <Deoki> amenado: no. I install Ubuntu via Live CD sent by Canonical. I enable the restricted drivers, restart, and once it goes into ubuntu, I try to install the latest drivers... and then it goes blank after the restart.
[17:09] <pele3> amenado: posts from the "past"... ignore.
[17:09] <pele3> `m0: `m0
[17:10] <amenado> pele3 it gets confusing..so remove it in the next paste
[17:10] <pele3> amenado: ok
[17:10] <shizz> jrib: whats the rute boko?
[17:10] <shizz> book*
[17:11] <jrib> !rute | shizz
[17:11] <ubotu> shizz: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[17:11] <jrib> shizz: the last link
[17:11] <pele3> amenado: I think that I should remove the ".." from line15
[17:11] <Deoki> asdroz0r: maybe we should start a new thread to aglomerate all the ATI 1950/X1300 cards that are having the same problem?
[17:11] <pele3> amenado: I do it and try again
[17:11] <amenado> Deoki-> oh okay, not sure how to fix that ati driver issue then..btw i dont use compiz, my video only supports 2d ..good enuff for server stuff
[17:11] <hipy> can anyone help me getting neostats to work ?:S
[17:11] <hipy> i get compile erros
[17:11] <rzerrou> hi
[17:12] <pele3> amenado: did it, and now it works!
[17:12] <shizz> jrib: whats the command to remove files?
[17:12] <jrib> shizz: rm
[17:12] <asdroz0r> Deoki i will reboot and reinstall ubuntu... and try some more, i will not give up yet :D good luck!
[17:12] <jrib> !cli > shizz (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:12] <amenado> pele3 okay...now reboot and see if it still works
[17:12] <Deoki> oh, well, at least you tried hard to help. A big thanks :) Do you live in Portugal? I can repay you with a Kitkat bar!
[17:12] <Deoki> lol
[17:12] <pele3> amenado: rebooting
[17:12] <asdroz0r> :
[17:12] <asdroz0r> :)
[17:12] <hipy> can anyone help me?
[17:13] <shizz> beautiful thanks!
[17:13] <pele3> hipy: what is it?
[17:13] <ZimmerX> I have a problem. I cannot change my monitor refresh rate. Its currently at 50Hz when my monitor supports upwards of 60Hz. I changed xorg.config, but it didn't allow me to change the options. My GFX is a 8800GTS and my monitor is a 20" Samsung Syncmaster ( 1680x1050 )
[17:13] <asdroz0r> bye
[17:13] <DOOM_NX> has anyone managed to activate voice clips in amsn? :S
[17:13] <amenado> Deoki-> i have a brazillian neighbor dancing samba now..lol..
[17:13] <Deoki> ok then asdroz0r. I will go to Ubuntu Forum and start a new thread. search for my nickname and join me if you have no success, ok? :)
[17:13] <lordleemo> asdroz0r: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide   follow method 2 and your ati should work
[17:13] <danbhfive> ZimmerX: nvidia driver I take it?
[17:13] <hipy> pele3: neostats ( get compile errors ) after doing make and erros when doing make install 2 , then when i try to run i get permission denied ( in root 2 )
[17:13] <Deoki> oh, and join EVEN if you have success! ^^
[17:14] <ZimmerX> danbhfive: I got envy
[17:14] <pele3> hipy: oh, sorry... no nothing about that.
[17:15] <hipy> a well
[17:15] <hipy> :p
[17:15] <danbhfive> ZimmerX: nvm, i don't know what envy is
[17:15] <hipy> :0
[17:15] <zozobra> anyone have experience with tune2fs?
[17:15] <Pici> !envy | danbhfive ZimmerX
[17:15] <ubotu> danbhfive ZimmerX: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:15] <Deoki> amenado: Brazilian girls really know how to celebrate Carnaval ^^ Samba is fun
[17:15] <ZimmerX> danbhfive: its basically an automatic install of the nvidia drivers
[17:16] <hipy> (cd adns; make libadns.a)
[17:16] <hipy> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/lucas/NeoStats-2.5.0/adns'
[17:16] <hipy> gcc -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -I.. -c check.c
[17:16] <hipy> gcc -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -I.. -c event.c
[17:16] <hipy> gcc -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -I.. -c general.c
[17:16] <hipy> gcc -O2 -fPIC -DPIC -I.. -c parse.c
[17:16] <FloodBot1> hipy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <hever_> I've file A and file B. And "mount --bind A B" Changes in A won't affect B, why ? (Changes in B affect A) ???
[17:16] <hipy> this are the erros i get
[17:16] <hipy> :/
[17:16] <pele3> amenado: now it is not associated again.
[17:17] <pele3> amenado: but the file looks the same.
[17:17] <pele3> amenado: without ""
[17:17] <danbhfive> ZimmerX: well, as Pici pointed out, thats already in ubuntu.  BUT, if everything is working outside of that, I will tell you there is/was a bug with the Nvidia drivers, and refresh rates
[17:17] <ZimmerX> danbhfive: so I can't fix it? :/
[17:17] <DOOM_NX> has anyone managed to activate voice clips in amsn? :S i can't
[17:18] <LukeML> !help
[17:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
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[17:18] <Deoki> "Desperate user trying to update a ATI X1300 driver but with no success" REWARDING a delicious KitKat chocolate bar if you live nearby in Portugal! ;_;
[17:18] <pele3> amenado: hey: when I have done sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart it started to work
[17:18] <pele3> amenado: as if it didn't do it by itself after rebooting
[17:18] <amenado> pele3-> good enough for me
[17:18] <danbhfive> ZimmerX: no, but I don't think it matters. I think it just mislabels the refresh rates.  SO, you can just choose the highest, and you actually get the highest
[17:19] <pele3> amenado: you think it means that I have to restart it whenever I reboot (every morning? :-) )
[17:19] <ZimmerX> danbhfive: I cant acutally choose the refresh rates. Its stuck on 50Hz
[17:19] <amenado> pele3->  iface eth1 intet dhcp  ? or was this a mistype when you copied?
[17:19] <pele3> amenado: no, it's like that.
[17:20] <pele3> amenado: oops, no.
[17:20] <danbhfive> ZimmerX: then maybe you should uninstall the envy stuff, and use the standard ubuntu driver install
[17:20] <pele3> amenado: inet, no intet
[17:20] <amenado> pele3 it makes a difference
[17:20] <amenado> pele3-> and put the auto eth1 after iface line
[17:21] <amenado> not before
[17:21] <pele3> amenado: fixed in pastebin. it was like that in interfaces
[17:21] <pele3> amenado: ok, and the reboot again?
[17:21] <amenado> pele3-> sure
[17:22] <pele3> amenado: it wouldn't even restart like that. it says: "misplaced option"
[17:23] <pappy> hello is there anybody in there?
[17:23] <pele3> pappy: what do you think?
[17:23] <pappy> just nod if you can hear
[17:23] <pele3> !question
[17:23] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:23] <ZimmerX> wow, is this true, that I cannot use flash player on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[17:23] <amenado> pele3-> which option? auto eth1 ?
[17:23] <nullset> I get an error while ubuntu is booting up saying "There is a difference between the memory boot record and its backup", then it throws some hex values and then states "Not automatically fixing this"
[17:23] <nullset> what could be the problem???
[17:23] <pele3> amenado: it doesn't say - but I guess so
[17:24] <pappy> does anyone know howw to change permissions in a external usb drive with ntfs?
[17:24] <amenado> pele3 once more, please pastebin your accurate interfaces file, no mistakes, so we dont guess
[17:24] <pele3> amenado: ok
[17:25] <odysseas> Hi all, firefox crashes everytime I try to login to a page or download something, any ideas?
[17:25] <pele3> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54875/
[17:25] <pele3> amenado: wait
[17:25] <Blinkiz> I want to make sun-java6-jre the default java runner. What command should I run to make this happen?
[17:25] <wil_> Hi.... I have tried to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest, but got problems... I just burnt a cd from a .iso and it boots in to the menu, but any option brings up a error and it reboots :( anyone got any ideas?
[17:25] <pappy> does anyone know how to change permissions in a external usb drive with ntfs?
[17:25] <pele3> amenado: now
[17:26] <Deoki> "Desperate user trying to update a ATI X1300 driver but with no success" REWARDING a delicious KitKat chocolate bar if you live nearby in Portugal! ;_;
[17:26] <amenado> pele3 now ?
[17:26] <pappy> does anyone know how to change permissions in a external usb drive with ntfs?
[17:26] <NullHead> use the restricted drivers manager
[17:27] <pele3> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54876/
[17:27] <pappy> reinstall firefox maybe?
[17:27] <johnficca> if i am using the open source radeon driver where is radeon_drv.so located ?
[17:27] <kaje1> If I want to add an environment variable for all users, where would I do that?
[17:27] <johnficca> I am trying to build and install the new one
[17:27] <amenado> pele3 switch line 13 and line 15, make auto eth1 the last line
[17:28] <pele3> amenado: ol
[17:28] <pele3> amenado: ok
[17:28] <johnficca> and they say I have to back up radeon_drv.so
[17:28] <johnficca> and ati_drv.so
[17:28] <pele3> amenado: restart works
[17:28] <amenado> johnficca-> locate radeon_drv.so
[17:28] <nullset> I get an error while ubuntu is booting up saying "There is a difference between the memory boot record and its backup", then it throws some hex values and then states "Not automatically fixing this"
[17:28] <nullset> what could be the problem???
[17:28] <pele3> amenado: thanks. I am trying to reboot
[17:28] <rvadmin> Hi all! What is with help.ubuntu.com site? It is unavailable
[17:29] <amenado> rvadmin-> google for alternative sites
[17:29] <NicDumZ> Hello !
[17:29] <johnficca> amenado: thanks
[17:29] <johnficca> that did it
[17:29] <rvadmin> I need this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization?action=show&redirect=InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[17:29] <rvadmin> but google doesn't have it in cache
[17:29] <Pici> rvadmin: Its working fine here.
[17:30] <Pici> rvadmin: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[17:30] <G__> does someone know what is DPO & FUA ? [terms related to sata]
[17:30] <johnficca> amenado: is there anything I have to do it get it to use the new driver after i build and install?
[17:30] <NicDumZ> I've run a veryyyy long script (30hours+) in a virtual console (Ctrl+alt+F1). It crashed, and I need to copy the last outputed lines so that I can submit them to devs. How can I do this ?
[17:30] <amenado> johnficca-> having it in the correct directory and run ldconfig ?
[17:31] <pappy> chmod
[17:31] <johnficca> amenado: so put the new *_drv.so in the dir the old ones are in?
[17:31] <TangentBuntu> hey, I'd like to set up a proxy on my server so I can keep my traffic logged through my server and not from my school
[17:31] <Scunizi> Where are most user installed .sh programs installed?  I'm giving Zimbra desktop a shot and it wants to put the install in /root/zimbra/zdesktop.
[17:32] <amenado> johnficca-> i would remove the old one first, save it in a known area to you, then move the new one over to replace it
[17:32] <DRebellion> Scunizi: think of /root as the equivalent of your /home/Scunizi directory... not a good place for applications...
[17:32] <johnficca> amenado: ok
[17:32] <pele3> amenado: didn't survive reboot
[17:32] <DRebellion> NicDumZ: you can't really *shrug*
[17:32] <pappy> does anyone know how to change permissions in a external usb drive with ntfs?
[17:33] <pappy> i want to read write in the drive
[17:33] <Scunizi> DRebellion, installed with sudo so it's going into root.. I would think.. otherwise the directory referance would be /home/foobar
[17:33] <NicDumZ> DRebellion: ewwww... :(.... Thanks anyway
[17:33] <amenado> pele3-> oh what happens after you reboot?
[17:33] <pele3> amenado: now it's not associated again. current interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54878
[17:33] <TangentBuntu> is it possible to set up a proxy server in ubuntu?
[17:34] <DRebellion> Scunizi: does it require root privs?
[17:34] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: what sort of proxy?
[17:34] <Scunizi> DreamThief, yes
[17:34] <pele3> amenado: everything works fine (no error messages) - but iwconfig says that eth1 is not associated, again
[17:34] <falconer> pappy, try chmod
[17:34] <amenado> pele3-> put double qoutes  outside the essid name
[17:34] <pappy> i did but no good
[17:34] <falconer> also pappy, you need to install ntfs-3g
[17:34] <Scunizi> DRebellion, yes
[17:34] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: I need to proxy port 80 so I can keep all my traffic logged from the server and not from the school
[17:34] <Scunizi> DreamThief, sorry.. ment for someone else
[17:34] <DRebellion> msg ubotu squid
[17:34] <pele3> amenado: before putting "", restart work it out, again.
[17:34] <falconer> Also read ntfs-3g's website :)
[17:34] <amenado> pele3-> havent you noticed yet, without quotes those are treated as separate names that dont make sense to iwconfig
[17:35] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: squid
[17:35] <TangentBuntu> that's what I've heard :P
[17:35] <TangentBuntu> I'll try setting it up on my own, but may come back for questions, DRebellion
[17:35] <pappy> i have ntfs-3g installed
[17:35] <pele3> amenado: I think you are wrong. When I put the "" it wouldn't even restart.
[17:36] <Deoki> "Desperate user trying to update a ATI X1300 driver but with no success" REWARDING a delicious KitKat chocolate bar if you live nearby in Portugal! ;_;
[17:36] <nemilar> What's the command to show what files a package provides/installs?
[17:36] <amenado> pele3  paste the new interfaces file you have
[17:36] <pele3> amenado: ok
[17:36] <Scunizi> DRebellion, should I set zimbra to install in /usr/share?
[17:36] <noneo> pappy: use uid=yourusername,gid=groupname in mount options or in fstab.
[17:37] <pele3> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54879/
[17:37] <DRebellion> Scunizi: i don't know. It probably wants to be installed in /root for a reason, whether good or bad.
[17:37] <pele3> amenado: iwconfig return unassociated ESSID:""Stoke Newington House Project""
[17:37] <amenado> pele3 that looks good to me
[17:37] <Scunizi> DRebellion, ok.. it looks easy enough to uninstall if necessary.. thanks.
[17:37] <ultradj83> can anyone suggest me a good download manager with sergmented downloading feature?
[17:37] <pele3> amenado: (twice the quotes!)
[17:38] <pele3> amenado: but without the quotes it worked
[17:38] <amenado> pele3-> why the two quotes?
[17:38] <`joxer`> salve  :D
[17:38] <amenado> pele3 okay do what it takes to make it work
[17:38] <pele3> amenado: I don't know - I didn't put it there!
[17:38] <danhs> Does anybody know how load *pidgin* configuration files?  I've put I've made my ~/.purple and ~/.gaim folders.  Still pidgin loads up and asks me to create new accounts
[17:38] <scrounch_> re les filles
[17:38] <pele3> amenado: ok, but how can we make it automatic (and can we?)
[17:38] <scrounch_> oups
[17:39] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: it's telling me to "Set 'visible_hostname'"
[17:39] <TangentBuntu> I don't know what that means
[17:39] <pele3> amenado: restarted (without the quotes) and now it's ok. I still can't make it automatic..
[17:39] <amenado> pele3-> it is there id remove the line iface eth0 if you are not using it
[17:39] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: where? in the .conf?
[17:39] <TangentBuntu> when I try to run squid, DRebellion
[17:39] <pele3> amenado: ok, removing
[17:40] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: you need to edit the configuration file. it will be in /etc somewhere and end in .conf
[17:40] <`joxer`> per carattere
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[17:40] <pele3> amenado: survives restart, now rebooting.
[17:40] <amenado> pele3-> also id move auto lo after its iface lo
[17:41] <d90_> how to kill uninterruptible process
[17:41] <DRebellion> d90_: kill -s SIGKILL <pid>
[17:41] <protoloco> Hello is pretty WEIRD.. i dont know why i cant acces to linux servers with public/private key with puttygen, putty, putty Agent, i have to make the key, and the acces via Linux... putty Agent in windows.. says that the key is not compatible.. i made it via. .putty gen of linux
[17:41] <pele3> amenado: replaced the "lo"s... will pastebin in a minute. survives restart, now rebooting
[17:42] <noneo> d90_: kill -9 PID or if zombie, kill its parent (you can get it ps auxf)
[17:43] <bardyr> is there anything like squirrelmail just better?
[17:44] <falconer> really cool story http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05pork.html
[17:44] <DRebellion> !offtopic | falconer
[17:44] <ubotu> falconer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:44] <danhs> hello?  any pidgin/gaim users here?  know how to load up those config files?
[17:44] <jw144000> Can anyone help me manually install Ubuntu?
[17:45] <danhs> jw144000: Have you installed live cds?
[17:45] <d90_> noneo, DRebellion, no success with booth commands
[17:45] <DRebellion> jw144000: what do you mean by "manually" 0_o
[17:45] <b4l74z4r> i have a 500gb disk and i want to install gutsy gibbon, should i let it sett partitions by itself or should i edit them manually?
[17:45] <jw144000> danhs: Yes, I have the live CD.
[17:46] <danhs> jw144000: did you have problems booting from it?
[17:46] <noneo> d90_: OK, step by step, it can't fail :-)
[17:46] <DRebellion> b4l74z4r: let it partition itself, unless you want /home on a seperate partition (for easier upgrades)
[17:46] <pele3> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54884/ - it didn't survive rebooting, that is, now it is unassociated again.
[17:46] <noneo> d90_: is it zombie or regular process?
[17:46] <titon> hey people i need help with dualview so i can connect and watch videos on the tv. i change setting under the grafik and enables it but i cant see nothing
[17:46] <jrgotti> b4l74z4r, up to you man...i would have a home partition set seperately, so that in case of a crash, you dont lose personal files.
[17:46] <jw144000> DRebellion: I only have the option of either a guided partition using the whole hard disk (which I don't want to do, because I want to dualboot) or doing a manual install.
[17:46] <b4l74z4r> ok
[17:46] <danhs> jw144000: All you should need to do is pop it in your disk drive.  maybe change your BIOS settings a little bit so it looks to boot off your cd drive, and you should be off to the races
[17:47] <Arelis> Hey guys. I am looking for an alternative to firefox, for Ubuntu. I've tried epiphany, but didn't like it. I'd use opera if it didn't have a screwed up Flash plugin. What browsers are there? They need to support Adobe Flash
[17:47] <YouKnowM1> jw144000, we talk in #thisonechannelhere ?
[17:47] <jrgotti> Arelis, have you tried flock/
[17:47] <b4l74z4r> how does ubuntu figure out how much space to give each partition, is there an algorithm?
[17:47] <d90_> noneo, I dont get... zombie or regular? it uninterruptible, I run photoshop with wine and ps become uninterruptible
[17:47] <Arelis> jrgotti, no, but since it's based on firefox..
[17:47] <pele3> amenado: still with me?
[17:47] <jrgotti> Arelis, ahhh...you bring up a valid point :P
[17:48] <Radiobuzz> hi there
[17:48] <jw144000> danhs: I can boot the CD from my DVD drive fine, it's just trying to manually partition the hard drive is what I have a problem with.
[17:48] <cMad> Arelis, what don't you like about firefox?
[17:48] <Arelis> cMad, Well, It's very unstable. And since i'm moving my "workspace" to the Web.. i need really stable stuff.
[17:48] <titon> anyone good at this dualview thingy?
[17:48] <danhs> jw144000: Hmmm I had thought that the installer came with options to partition and setup GRUB for you.....I haven't tried it personally....so I don't think I can be of much more help
[17:49] <Radiobuzz> I'm having a serious trouble with Ubuntu, I wrote it in the forum yesterday but I didn't get an answer... could anyone help me?
[17:49] <danhs> jw144000: It shouldn't be "manual" in the sense that there's no installer though
[17:49] <jrgotti> Radiobuzz, ...go onnn...
[17:49] <a-golem> azureus 3 - how can i install it? not through synaptic, it seems
[17:49] <Radiobuzz> thanks :)
[17:49] <danhs> jw144000: Even if I'm very mistaken, the most "manual" thing you should have to do is create a partition on your hard drive for your ubuntu installation
[17:49] <Radiobuzz> here's the thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688147
[17:49] <cMad> Arelis, have you got many extensions installed?
[17:50] <d90_> noneo, any Idea how to kill process?
[17:50] <Arelis> cMad, not really many. Just TinyMenu and GMarks
[17:50] <b4l74z4r> how much space should i use for /?
[17:50] <edju> How might I find which modules are loading at boot? And, how to get one to load?
[17:50] <jrgotti> Radiobuzz, i suggest booting from the live cd again and just skipping to the part where it installs grub. Reinstall grub and the you should be fine.
[17:50] <odysseas> Radiobuzz: try sudo update-grub and reboot
[17:50] <Radiobuzz> oh... problem is, I don't have the live cd
[17:51] <sebastian> hey guys ... how do you list files in a directory with the size displayed (and no other info, ie ls -l won't do)
[17:51] <jrgotti> then go with odysseas
[17:51] <DRebellion> sebastian: ls -s or ls -sh
[17:51] <Radiobuzz> odysseas?
[17:51] <sebastian> i want to compare the file sizes on two different machines to check that everything was transferred
[17:51] <jrgotti> odysseas> Radiobuzz: try sudo update-grub and reboot
[17:51] <odysseas> Radiobuzz: try sudo update-grub and reboot
[17:51] <Radiobuzz> oh
[17:51] <SANTAbios> Hi!! WHat port is RDP for ubuntu?
[17:51] <sebastian> DRebellion: yeah ls -s lists block sizes which are for some reason different on the two machines by 4 bytes (don't ask me why)
[17:51] <pele3> amenado: currently read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-410645.html - maybe it will give you a clue? They say exactly the opposite about the "auto" positions
[17:52] <Radiobuzz> ok, I'm going to try it, thank you!
[17:52] <sebastian> DRebellion: but when you do ls -l the numbers come the same
[17:52] <DRebellion> sebastian: use ls -l and awk through it to get the right column.. i assume you're making a script
[17:52] <sebastian> DRebellion: well am just doing a diff on the files ...
[17:52] <SANTAbios> Hi!! WHat port is RDP for ubuntu? -- whjat port do i need to open in firewall so i can remote into Ubuntu?
[17:52] <sebastian> DRebellion: am going to give awk a try, thanks
[17:53] <cMad> Arelis: how did you install flash for opera?
[17:53] <titon> dualview question over here. it just wont work
[17:54] <SANTAbios> Hi!! WHat port is RDP for ubuntu? -- whjat port do i need to open in firewall so i can remote into Ubuntu? --please someone help me , thank u
[17:54] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: I think I'd rather set up a vpn
[17:54] <TangentBuntu> SANTAbios: remote?
[17:54] <TangentBuntu> SANTAbios: as in SSH?
[17:54] <SANTAbios> RDP
[17:54] <SANTAbios> VNC
[17:55] <SANTAbios> what ever is installed by default
[17:55] <SANTAbios> it says remote desktop
[17:55] <Seamus> what's the easiest way to create a NTFS partition on an external drive?
[17:55] <nemilar> Seamus: use gparted
[17:55] <SANTAbios> Tangent - if i goto system,pref, it says remote desktop
[17:55] <SANTAbios> which port
[17:56] <Seamus> nemilar: yeah I have that, it says it doesn't support creating NTFS partitions
[17:56] <nemilar> Seamus: install the ntfs drivers....h/o I'll get the package name
[17:56] <odysseas> Seamus: aptitude search ntfsprogs
[17:56] <Seamus> nemilar: I have the ntfs-3g driver
[17:56] <nemilar> thereyago
[17:56] <Fou-Lu> heh
[17:56] <cMad> Arelis: if you're still there, try this for flash in Opera; http://tinyurl.com/ystamh
[17:57] <enzo> hi
[17:57] <Seamus> Okay I'll give it a try, thanks.
[17:57] <enzo> i'd like to configure the anti spam in kmail, what should i install, spamassassin ?
[17:57] <nemilar> Seamus: yeah once ntfsprogs is installed, open up gparted and it should be able to work on ntfs partitions
[17:58] <barkink> on ubuntu 7.10, evince gets all the processor and ram at top when i open a pdf file..
[17:58] <TangentBuntu> how would I install a vpn server on ubuntu?
[17:58] <barkink> anyone experienced sthg like that?
[17:58] <Kenn> Is there some way to make a backup file of my settings? So if i ever screw something up, i can just restore it from terminal? (newbie)
[17:58] <nemilar> barkink: does it calm down once the pdf is loaded?
[17:58] <Mania> hi all
[17:58] <geokeratz> hi
[17:58] <nemilar> Kenn: www.techthrob.com/tech/timevault.php
[17:58] <Mania> i have some problem with evolution and gmail
[17:59] <barkink> nemilar, system seems acting slowly
[17:59] <barkink> but yea the processor gets low
[17:59] <barkink> altough the ram and swap is not that clam though
[17:59] <Seamus> worked like a charm, thanks
[17:59] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:59] <danhs> By the way.  I figured that pidgin thing out
[17:59] <TangentBuntu> I just want to tunnel my web traffic through my server
[17:59] <Kenn> Thanks - i will check that out
[17:59] <UniverseMan> Hi everyone. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 for the first time and I have a problem.  Twice now, the installer has frozen at 15% on "Installing System | Detecting file systems..."  I've waited like 20 minutes and nothing is happening and there is no response to the mouse or keyboard; the cursor doesn't even move. Any suggestions?
[17:59] <Mania> that is my problem can you help me ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54891/
[17:59] <TangentBuntu> I just want to tunnel my web traffic through my server, DRebellion
[18:00] <danhs> the files that are in ~/.gaim on windows need to be in ~/.purple on Ubuntu
[18:00] <nemilar> barkink: it's typical for evince to use up a lot of resources while working to display the PDF... if it calms down once it's displayed, though, it should be fine... if you want a lighter-weight pdf viewer, checkout xpdf
[18:00] <danhs> go figure....
[18:00] <SANTAbios> So what is the default port for VNC?
[18:00] <sousabr> boa tarde
[18:00] <rinaldi_> UniverseMan: have you tried doing the memory check and "check cd for defects"?
[18:00] <nemilar> danhs: no, the folder for pidgin is still .gaim for some reason
[18:00] <danhs> SANTAbios: You might want to tunnel VNC through SSH
[18:00] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: then, set up an ssh tunnel
[18:00] <danhs> nemilar: It wasn't working when I used ~/.gaim
[18:00] <rinaldi_> UniverseMan: if you get any errors that could be your problem
[18:00] <UniverseMan> rinalidi: No. Is the memory check an option at the CD startup?
[18:00] <TangentBuntu> how would I do that for wweb, DRebellion ?
[18:00] <danhs> I had to move my accounts.xml file to ~/.purple
[18:00] <nemilar> danhs: oh, I didn't realize, I Thought you were asking...that /is/ strange
[18:00] <danhs> then it worked....
[18:01] <TangentBuntu> I'm currently sshed into the console
[18:01] <danhs> nemilar: Yes, very bizarre
[18:01] <SANTAbios> danhs, what port is vnc listening on by default?
[18:01] <rinaldi_> UniverseMan: yes, my laptop hung in the installation and turned out the ram was faulty, just an idea
[18:01] <barkink> nemilar, which i tried that one too bcuz i was suspicious about evince but seems that one makes same results with evince except taking less top time for processor
[18:01] <titon> anyone with dualview knowledge?
[18:01] <nemilar> danhs: actually I just looked... my .gaim is actually a symlink to .purple, I never noticed that before
[18:01] <markd> SANTAbios: 5900 is what I generally see, but 5800-5900 are valid
[18:01] <danhs> SANTAbios: Errr I dunno....5900 or something weird like that....it's not like something like 80 like the web
[18:01] <UniverseMan> rinaldi: I will try both of those, thanks.
[18:02] <danhs> nemilar: btw, do you have a good way to sync up my logs on windows laptop and ubuntu workstation?
[18:02] <danhs> nemilar: that'd be quite nice
[18:02] <barkink> nemilar, what is wierd for me is, i am almost sure this was not like this before even with evince
[18:02] <nemilar> barkink: I guess it just takes a lot of processor power to display PDFs
[18:02] <nemilar> barkink: my system usually takes a few seconds at 100% CPU to display a PDF, depending on how big it is
[18:02] <markd> SANTAbios: 5900 for display:0.0  5901 for display:1.0 is the way I normally see it.
[18:02] <barkink> nemilar, mine is around 7MB
[18:02] <nemilar> danhs: hmm... there's probably a program out there to do that.  not really sure though
[18:02] <barkink> nemilar, what do u say?
[18:02] <nemilar> barkink: how fast is your computer?
[18:03] <danhs> nemilar: :-p I'm sure you're right....wish I knew the name though.....
[18:03] <Mania> help plz
[18:03] <gverig> is there a way to have separate icon sets/backgrounds for different workspaces?
[18:03] <nemilar> danhs: yeah I haven't had that need yet (sure I will someday, though)
[18:03] <barkink> nemilar, intel 1.8 centrino, 512 mb ram, 1024 swat
[18:03] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: just google for ssh tunnel. there are hundreds of simple tutorials.
[18:03] <TangentBuntu> okay
[18:03] <barkink> nemilar, swap sorry
[18:03] <barkink> :)
[18:03] <TangentBuntu> I can't get to most of them
[18:03] <nemilar> barkink: it takes about 3 seconds for evince to load up a 1MB PDF on my 2.6 single core, 1GB ram
[18:04] <TangentBuntu> they're blocked by school netblocker
[18:04] <nemilar> barkink: so there's nothing wrong with your system
[18:04] <nemilar> TangentBuntu: proxies ;)
[18:04] <TangentBuntu> dude
[18:04] <nemilar> TangentBuntu: www.proxyring.com
[18:04] <TangentBuntu> that's what I'm trying to do
[18:04] <barkink> nemilar, yea but what concerns me is, i guess it wasnt like that before
[18:04] <TangentBuntu> I can't go there, it's blocked by schol netblocker
[18:05] <nemilar> :( censors
[18:05] <barkink> nemilar, ok hold on let me test it again with time to how long it takes to open that
[18:05] <TangentBuntu> I'm trying to set up a tunnel or something so I can just run it through my server
[18:06] <cix> ciao
[18:06] <newberduesday> hello all... I'm working off the Live CD right now. I like this a lot so far
[18:06] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: I'm using a windows computer, there are no free ssh clients out there for windows afaik
[18:06] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: putty
[18:06] <TangentBuntu> oh
[18:07] <TangentBuntu> putty does that too?
[18:07] <titon> thx for help though gotta use the xbox for now since u all buissy. gotta try dualview later
[18:07] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: yes
[18:07] <Seamus> newberduesday: welcome and enjoy.
[18:07] <newberduesday> hi, thanks
[18:07] <ahmad> i need some help
[18:07] <r3r3> halp are
[18:08] <Pici> !ask | ahmad
[18:08] <ubotu> ahmad: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:08] <newberduesday> Is it necessary to use the command interface (sorry, I"m new I don't know the terminology) with Ubuntu? It seems pretty user friendly.
[18:08] <newberduesday> I took out 2 Linux books and 1 Unix book for reference
[18:08] <ahmad> i cant find logout icon and i lost the bar ?
[18:08] <newberduesday> from the library
[18:08] <DRebellion> newberduesday: it is not nessecary
[18:08] <odysseas> newberduesday: its not necessary most of the time but learning to use it will help you alot
[18:08] <barkink> nemilar, ok it took a minute and 40 seconds to clam down the processor and the load was at the top now the load is getting calmed too, but ram is full while swap is almost at the half of it...
[18:08] <newberduesday> Yeah I would like to
[18:08] <barkink> nemilar, what do u say?
[18:09] <newberduesday> how do I access it? Through SSH or is there some other way?
[18:09] <nullset> I get an error while ubuntu is booting up saying "There is a difference between the memory boot record and its backup", then it throws some hex values and then states "Not automatically fixing this"
[18:09] <nullset> what could be the problem???
[18:09] <ahmad> i lost the gnome bar (the tp one )so who can i restoreit
[18:09] <odysseas> newberduesday: just open the terminal program
[18:09] <DRebellion> newberduesday: i highly recommend becoming familiar with the command line interface. it is way more powerful and efficient than the gui.
[18:09] <nemilar> barkink: hitting swap will slow down your computer somethin' nasty
[18:09] <TangentBuntu> okay, I'm so confused
[18:09] <DRebellion> newberduesday: you can use a gnome terminal emulator
[18:09] <newberduesday> i got it, Terminal Server Client?
[18:09] <barkink> nemilar, yea thats what concerns me cuz this wasnt like that before
[18:09] <nemilar> ahmad: do you have another panel (like, one on the bottom) ?
[18:09] <ahmad> no
[18:09] <odysseas> newberduesday: no, not that
[18:10] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: think about it very hard. it's confusing at first, but it will soon snap into place ;)
[18:10] <barkink> nemilar, and everytime i open that file system takes the swap
[18:10] <nemilar> ahmad: can you open a terminal?
[18:10] <ahmad>  i can ust   alt + fi to see my app
[18:10] <odysseas> newberduesday: accessories -> terminal
[18:10] <DRebellion> newberduesday: what he said ;)
[18:10] <newberduesday> haha, thank you
[18:10] <ahmad> alt +f1 to run my app
[18:10] <nemilar> ahmad: if you can get a terminal open, or run a command inside gnome, run 'gnome-panel &'
[18:10] <ahmad> yes
[18:11] <nemilar> that will give you a panel
[18:11] <nemilar> ahmad: you can't run that from another tty, though, I don't think
[18:11] <guille1983> where can i see sendmail logs?
[18:12] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: I see nothing on tunneling port 80 through ssh putty agh, I'm gonna cry
[18:12] <nemilar> ahmad: if you haven't got any other way, you can create a launcher on the desktop pointing to /usr/bin/gnome-terminal and then run gnome-panel &
[18:12] <ahmad> ok i try it   it give me A panel is already running. but i cant see it?
[18:12] <nemilar> guille1983: /var/log/sendmail ?
[18:12] <nemilar> ahmad: killall -9 gnome-panel && gnome-panel &
[18:12] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: just open up putty, and set up a tunnel under the profile or whatever. also, i don't recommend you stay with putty, openssh is way superior.
[18:13] <guille1983> nemilar: I dont have that directory "sendmail" :S
[18:13] <nemilar> guille1983: it was just a guess... I'm not running sendmail.  I'm sure it's in /var/log though
[18:13] <TangentBuntu> DRebellion: openssh isn't for windows
[18:13] <guille1983> nemilar: I am not able to send emails via php mail() function either
[18:13] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: there is a windows client
[18:13] <ahmad> nothong done?
[18:14] <TangentBuntu> since when?
[18:14] <fannagoganna> there's putty for windows
[18:14] <barkink> nemilar, anyway thank you man
[18:14] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: since i last checked
[18:14] <nemilar> guille1983: you don't have it configured correctly ;)
[18:14] <Pici> !putty | TangentBuntu
[18:14] <ubotu> TangentBuntu: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:14] <nemilar> barkink: I doubt it's evince that's using up all that memory... track down whatever it is hogging your RAM and it should speed things up
[18:14] <guille1983> nemilar: if I want to use an external smtp server I still must configure sendmail?
[18:15] <AlexQ> Hi
[18:15] <barkink> nemilar, yea, any advice for ram or memory tools for editing or chasing
[18:15] <DayOldPorridge> How do I find out what chipset my webcam uses, besides using lsusb?
[18:15] <formolQC> hello.  someone got that with dmesg "ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP) : wlan0: link is not ready"   (my wifi card was working perflectly before the kernel update....)
[18:16] <nemilar> barkink: ps ?
[18:16] <nemilar> guille1983: you can set it up in your php.ini ; check out the php website for more information on configuring php
[18:16] <cox377> hello all, I've just installed a package by synaptic called computertemp, however I cannot find it for love not more via the gui and when i type computertemp& into terminal i states it can't find it
[18:16] <newberduesday> Geez I need to get a different book. Is this the X Window System we have on Ubuntu right now?
[18:16] <cox377> any ideas?
[18:16] <barkink> nemilar, i mean for editing, for swap or ram maybe
[18:16] <Paltas> Have anybody succeded installing the server version with no cdrom drive?
[18:16] <nemilar> barkink: editing what/
[18:17] <Pici> cox377: computertemp is an applet for the gnome panel.
[18:17] <barkink> nemilar, swap maybe, or even ram.
[18:17] <nemilar> barkink: if the system monitor you can display Processes sorted by memory usage
[18:17] <nemilar> barkink: you can't edit the contents of your ram ;)
[18:17] <cox377> Pici: I can't find it, how do I launch it?
[18:17] <nemilar> barkink: you can add more swap by repartitioning, I suppose... but that isn't going to help you.
[18:18] <Pici> cox377: Right click on a panel, click add to panel and find it in the new window that comes up.
[18:18] <DRebellion> cox377: right-click on your panel, and select add to panel. then select the computer temp applet
[18:18] <ubuntu32> I need help with merging partitions. Im so confused
[18:18] <cox377> Pici: and the lightbulb turns on
[18:18] <cox377> Pici: lol cheers
[18:18] <barkink> nemilar, yea i know i am asking a dummy question, just wanna check if really it is
[18:18] <barkink> :)
[18:18] <nemilar> ubuntu32: be more specific
[18:19] <tgm4883> has anyone heard of the moira_update port, and know what it is used for?
[18:19] <ubuntu32> I need to merge some unallocated space into my ext3 root
[18:19] <eXeCuTeR-> !help
[18:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:19] <nemilar> ubuntu32: you can burn a gparted LiveCD and do it from there
[18:19] <ubuntu32> im in live right now
[18:19] <scribe05> i did something I shouldn't have, but I don't remember what.  I cannot update packages with synaptic.  Get this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb: Verification on package /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb failed
[18:19] <nemilar> ubuntu32: oh, well then you're halfway there ;)
[18:19] <ubuntu32> a gparted or an ubuntu cd?
[18:19] <nullset> I get an error while ubuntu is booting up saying "There is a difference between the memory boot record and its backup", then it throws some hex values and then states "Not automatically fixing this"
[18:19] <DRebellion> eXeCuTeR-: please converse with ubotu in a query < /msg ubotu > instead of in the channel.
[18:19] <Tilllinu1> how to almost completely hide a panel? the "hide automatically" option doesn't hide the panel as much as I want it to (I can still see about 5-7px of the panel)
[18:19] <nullset> what could be the problem???
[18:20] <nemilar> ubuntu32: the ubuntu liveCD comes with gparted, so either should be fine.
[18:20] <cix> irc.darksin.net
[18:20] <ubuntu32> ok im in live ubuntu right now
[18:20] <ubuntu32> what now?
[18:20] <nemilar> ubuntu32: ok, load up gparted
[18:20] <ubuntu32> done
[18:20] <nemilar> ubuntu32: k, are the ext3 partition and then unallocated space next to each other?
[18:20] <Pici> DRebellion: Theres no need to ask every user that does just one factoid to take it to a query.
[18:21] <ubuntu32> no they aren't
[18:21] <DRebellion> Pici: ok
[18:21] <nemilar> ubuntu32: ugh, then you have to move them around so they are, as far as I know
[18:21] <voice> is there anyway to increase the volume in ubuntu? I've got it at max but thats still pretty quiet
[18:21] <nemilar> ubuntu32: gparted will allow you to move partitions
[18:21] <nemilar> ubuntu32: basically, move them so that they are next to each other, and then gparted will allow you to resize the ext3 partition to use up the unallocated space
[18:21] <Tilllinu1> voice try alsamixer
[18:22] <ph> hi! I want to use /dev/discs/disc0/disc in my preseed-installation but the installer don't use devfs! It use udev and I can't find any similar?
[18:22] <ubuntu32> ok let me try
[18:22] <ubuntu32> :S
[18:22] <nemilar> ubuntu32: you backed up all your important data first, right?  always have a backup
[18:22] <ubuntu32> nothing important here
[18:22] <nemilar> ahh okay then.  Risk away!
[18:22] <xbisont> voice, double cick on the volume icon, and increase volume of the PCM
[18:22] <TangentBuntu> okay, thanks DRebellion
[18:23] <ubuntu32> nemilar: I cant move my root and the unallocated has no option to move :S
[18:23] <TangentBuntu> now, one more piece of buisness
[18:23] <ahmad> please help i can't see my main menu (the top bar gnome luncher is inviable) so how can i restore it  , now i can access my main menu only using alt+ F1
[18:23] <voice> xbisont: its at max
[18:23] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: did you get it working?
[18:23] <TangentBuntu> how do I start the xserver?
[18:23] <TangentBuntu> yeah
[18:23] <Pici> !panelreset | ahmad
[18:23] <ubotu> ahmad: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[18:23] <MirJA> voice: what about PCM ? is it at max as well ?
[18:23] <voice> yes the PCM is at max
[18:23] <DRebellion> TangentBuntu: startx , i think. but you may have to do a bit of other magic i'm unaware of...
[18:23] <nemilar> ubuntu32: can you move whatever is between them?
[18:23] <TangentBuntu> k
[18:24] <Hammer89> assume I'm looking for all files within folder /home/user/folder that have the extension *.png... is there a command I can run from terminal to perform that search?
[18:24] <ubuntu32> no its linux swap
[18:24] <Pici> Hammer89: find /home/user/folder -iname "*.png"
[18:24] <Hammer89> and it'd have to be able to search sub-folders as well
[18:24] <Pici> Hammer89: or just -name if you know the case of the extension.
[18:25] <nemilar> ubuntu32: you can, if you want, remove the swap; create a new swap at the end of the drive, and then extend your ext3 partition
[18:25] <Hammer89> lol.. a response in 20 seconds... that might be a #ubuntu record for me... thanks :)
[18:25] <elfer> necesito un editor de video...el mas pro...recursos alternativos al Adobe premiere
[18:25] <nemilar> ubuntu32: not sure if the liveCD will rewrite your configuration files so that everything works properly, though
[18:25] <TangentBuntu> argh
[18:26] <TangentBuntu> I need to reinstall xserver
[18:26] <Hammer89> Pici: will that search sub-folders?
[18:26] <hansderelict> hey - my laptop is overheating constantly in ubuntu. this problem just started about two weeks ago, and i've never had a problem in vista... fan works fine / thermal compound applied / everthing is clean, so i'm pretty sure it's a software problem. has anyone experienced this problem before?
[18:26] <Pici> Hammer89: yes.
[18:26] <newberduesday> OK, i've been typing in some commands and just getting responses... just to see what happens. Can anyone suggest a good book for a total beginner? I've done some DOS stuff, I've been using computers since 93 (12 years old) or so... I have some unrelated experience in working with commands and dealing with things that aren't in my face and image based. But I still don't know or understand Linux commands at all.
[18:26] <Pici> !es | elfer
[18:26] <ubotu> elfer: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:26] <edju> How might I find which modules are loading at boot? And, how to get one to load?
[18:26] <ubuntu32> o great i deleted the swap and cant move it now >.>
[18:27] <Ticonderoga> Hello
[18:27] <nemilar> edju:  /etc/modules
[18:27] <DRebellion> newberduesday: just keep using the command line for common tasks. use as many command line tools as possible. get lots of experience :)
[18:27] <nemilar> ubuntu32: well now there is just the ext3 and a bunch of unallocated space next to it, no?
[18:27] <newberduesday> Ok, I'm still trying to figure out what commands to use, and I dont' want to use the wrong command and change anything
[18:27] <mamep> hello, i have a strange problem when i do sudo -i my paths are lost...
[18:27] <DRebellion> newberduesday: you'll pick it up fairly quickly. also, if you don't know what a command does, use the command < man (commandname) >
[18:27] <danbhfive> newberduesday: I'm working on a project that you might find helpful.  join #climl if you are interested
[18:28] <newberduesday> ok thanks
[18:28] <luca> hi all
[18:28] <mamep> hello, i have a strange problem when i do sudo -i my paths are lost...????
[18:28] <voice> figured it out
[18:28] <ubuntu32> no
[18:28] <voice> i turned up the surround and now my sound is much better
[18:28] <voice> thanks for helping
[18:28] <ubuntu32> its a bunch of unallocated
[18:29] <Ticonderoga> Greetings to the Ubuntu users. I am Ticonderoga and looking to use a Linux based system to output audio ( music ) to a mixer. I am currently 70% finished with the desktop edition 7.10 and would like to know what I should expect for file formats?
[18:29] <ubuntu32> a few ntfs
[18:29] <nemilar> mamep: you mean your $PATH?
[18:29] <ubuntu32> and one extended for some reason :S
[18:29] <tgm4883> anyone know what moria_update is?
[18:29] <ph> hi! I want to use /dev/discs/disc0/disc in my preseed-installation but the installer don't use devfs! It use udev and I can't find any similar?
[18:29] <mabel> How do I uninstall a package I installed through "dpkg -i pkg.deb"? I can't see it in Synaptic.
[18:29] <luca> i have a question about how to download beryl o compitz with apt get, can anyone help me?
[18:29] <DRebellion> !ask | luca
[18:29] <ubotu> luca: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:31] <deadlyallance561> haha i am deleating ubuntu from my computer today and loading DREAMLINUX now i can talk about AUTOMATIX  wuhahahahaha
[18:31] <Ticonderoga> ! list girlfriends
[18:31] <Ticonderoga> thought so
[18:31] <luca> i have a question about how to download beryl o compitz with apt get, can anyone help me?
[18:31] <tgm4883> !compiz | luca
[18:31] <ubotu> luca: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:31] <DRebellion> Ticonderoga: bear in mind that many popular file formats are proprietary and so cannot come preinstalled on the disk.
[18:32] <luca> thanks tgm4883
[18:32] <luca> ;p
[18:32] <Ticonderoga> DReb, I know, I bought rights to use MP3 and Windows Media.
[18:32] <ubuntu32> nemilar: I got it down to one last space
[18:32] <mamep> nemilar : i can't use any command only if i use the full path
[18:33] <nemilar> Ticonderoga: if you have stuff with DRM...probably not gonna work in linux ;)
[18:33] <nemilar> mamep: after you sudo -i, echo $PATH
[18:33] <Ticonderoga> Never mind folks, a program I just found called Automatix will be able to install the needed codecs and additional software I require.
[18:33] <Pici> !automatix | Ticonderoga
[18:33] <ubotu> Ticonderoga: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:34] <humbolto> With LVM, is it possible to convert a snapshot to become the original? lets say, I create a snapshot and then do some changes to the original (e.g. upgrade the system) just to find out, it is not worth it and I want to revert back. Can I then somehow magically get rid of the changes and revert back to the state of the snapshot?
[18:34] <Pici> Ticonderoga: Automatix has a bad track record of breaking installs./
[18:34] <nemilar> Ticonderoga: just add the non-free repos and you can install whatever codecs you want
[18:35] <nemilar> Ticonderoga: system - administration - software sources
[18:35] <soap> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/message/196797&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ata2:%2B%2522%2B%2522connection%2Bstatus%2Bchanged%2522%2BUbuntu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26hs%3DKEn%26sa%3DG
[18:35] <mamep> ananke:~# echo $PATH
[18:35] <mamep> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
[18:35] <soap> describes my problem very well - not finding squat when I do a google search on the error messages.
[18:35] <cesar_bo> Hi, how do I get composite transparencys without using compiz ??
[18:36] <Ticonderoga> I'm going to ignore that link ubotu, as many users in old forum posts have praised automatix and I find that blog to be off site and unreliable.
[18:36] <mamep> and also when i do sudo -i i'm starting at / and not /root
[18:36] <ubuntu32> nemilar: What do i do now?
[18:37] <Pici> Ticonderoga: That blog is written by an Ubuntu developer and member (or is it head) of the Ubuntu Technical Board.
[18:37] <LjL> Ticonderoga: ... and you find posts from random users reliable? (note that the forums themselves do NOT endorse automatix)
[18:37] <ubuntu32> brb
[18:37] <rinaldi_> Ticonderoga: ubotu isnt a person its a bot, and the bot tells you not to, personally, automatix messed up my install. though it may work for some, you run the risk of messing a lot of things up
[18:37] <Veinor> Anyone know how to get suspend/hibernate to work with a HP Pavilion dv9235nr?
[18:38] <Pici> Ticonderoga: In addition you are going to find it very hard to get support here if you use Automatix.
[18:38] <newberduesday> wow I'm already picking things up pretty quickly, as far as how to enter things. This is great thank you everyone who has helped me so far
[18:38] <Ticonderoga> That so, I can get support as said by the automatix site if caused by automatix.
[18:38] <nemilar> oh yeah today is super tuesday
[18:38] <LjL> !nickspam > nickspoon    (nickspoon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:39] <DRebellion> newberduesday: are you using a cli irc client yet?
[18:39] <Ticonderoga> It's tuesday? :(
[18:39] <newberduesday> right now I'm using the Gaim thing
[18:39] <newberduesday> what's cli irc?
[18:39] <newberduesday> i know irc but what's CLI?
[18:39] <DRebellion> newberduesday: command line interface
[18:39] <dgjones> !cli
[18:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:40] <newberduesday> no
[18:40] <DRebellion> newberduesday: sudo apt-get install irssi   (command line irc client)
[18:40] <newberduesday> I'm using the Live CD, I don't think I can install or download anything
[18:40] <DRebellion> newberduesday: oh
[18:40] <Scunizi> newberduesday, you gotta dump gaim for irc and use xchat or the command line interface irc chat irssi. see DRebellion above.
[18:41] <Scunizi> newberduesday, you can install and use irssi with the live cd.
[18:41] <newberduesday> I used to use irc clients, back in the mid-90's,
[18:41] <baltuna> hello, anybody speaks English?
[18:41] <newberduesday> and I used to use BBS way before that
[18:41] <newberduesday> is it similar?
[18:41] <DRebellion> baltuna: this is the english support channel
[18:41] <rinaldi_> baltuna: well this is the english channel... so yes
[18:42] <Scunizi> newberduesday, it gives you the ability to get online and get help in case you can't get to the gui.. it's also extensible.
[18:42] <baltuna> and exist an Spanish channel?
[18:42] <DRebellion> !es | baltuna
[18:42] <ubotu> baltuna: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:42] <baltuna> ok, thanks
[18:42] <newberduesday> I just typed that command, it says, "irssi is already the newest version"
[18:42] <baltuna> gracias
[18:42] <baltuna> bye
[18:42] <gverig> Are there text editors in Ubuntu other than the default one? I am using Nautilus to connect to Windows share but Text Editor cannot open the URL format. Firefox opens it fine...
[18:42] <DRebellion> newberduesday: excellent. then open up a terminal and type "irssi"
[18:43] <DRebellion> !editor | gverig
[18:43] <ubotu> gverig: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[18:43] <newberduesday> ok, reading, thanks
[18:44] <XBehave> is ndiswrapper installed by default?
[18:44] <gverig> DRebellion: I am using gedit, it cannot process smb:// URLs.
[18:44] <gverig> DRebellion: (or maybe it can but my particular URL throws it for a loop... either way I can't open files)
[18:44] <wittyphotons> so i'm having some sound card issues
[18:45] <wittyphotons> namely that i don't know how to get the new one i bought working
[18:45] <DRebellion> gverig: try mounting the smb share and then all your programs can use its files ;)
[18:45] <wittyphotons> lemme know when it's not too crowded in here to the point where i can explain further
[18:45] <DRebellion> wittyphotons: just go for it (its pretty quitet
[18:46] <bintrue|work> Anyone else having a problem with updating hplip?
[18:46] <wittyphotons> oh okay
[18:46] <Neeku> hello
[18:46] <Veinor> Whenever I set the brightness, it always changes back to full after a while
[18:46] <wittyphotons> well i purchased a vista-loaded hp laptop awhile back, wiped vista off of it and installed gutsy gibbon
[18:46] <Neeku> i've downloaded ie for linux, but I don't know how to compile it. could you please help me?
[18:47] <wittyphotons> my sound card and wireless card weren't natively supported but i got that all sorted out after jumping through a lot of hoops and with some drivers etc.
[18:47] <gverig> DRebellion: Can I use Nautilus to mount or do I mount with good old command line? I am trying to replace my desktop with Linux and if I will have to mount every share I need to use manually... Kinda sucks. Especially since other programs open these URLs relatively easily (Firefox, open office). But editing config files with open office would kinda suck too :)
[18:47] <wittyphotons> but for a linguistics project i have, i need to record the sound card's output of some internet voice chat
[18:47] <mamep> anyone?
[18:47] <pike_> Neeku: there is a script that does all the setup work for you you just chmod +x scriptname then ./scriptname
[18:47] <wittyphotons> and my sound card, no matter what i do, can't do this
[18:47] <wittyphotons> so i was advised to get a cheap usb sound card and i did.
[18:48] <d33d> ---- So who has seen fullcirclemagazine.com?
[18:48] <Veinor> gverig: you can mount using the command line, gimme a bit
[18:48] <wittyphotons> and now i have this usb sound card and i don't know how to set it up as my primary sound card for purposes of enabling capture on alsamixer so that i can capture audio output from a voice chat program running in wine and recording it in audacity to a sound file.
[18:48] <danand_> gverig - if you need your shares to mount automatically at boot time you can edit the /etc/fstab file
[18:48] <wittyphotons> i'm open to other methods, but i've been told that this is generally the easiest way.
[18:49] <d33d> ---- So who has seen fullcirclemagazine.com?
[18:49] <Veinor> is there any way to get multiple apps to be able to play audio at the same time?
[18:49] <wittyphotons> aplay -l gives me the following output:
[18:49] <wittyphotons> * keks_` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[18:49] <wittyphotons> err
[18:49] <jetscreamer> Veinor: sound server
[18:49] <Veinor> explain?
[18:49] <wittyphotons> not that
[18:49] <wittyphotons> one sec
[18:49] <wittyphotons> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[18:49] <wittyphotons> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[18:49] <wittyphotons>   Subdevices: 1/1
[18:49] <wittyphotons>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:49] <FloodBot1> wittyphotons: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <sneki> zdr
[18:50] <sneki> alo
[18:50] <sneki> ima li
[18:50] <AndyGraybeal> what is the life-cycle for ubuntu?
[18:50] <newberduesday> alright I'm back... :-/ I'm on irssi, I typed /SERVER ADD -network irc.freenode.net, but I can't seem to find any other information to put in (I'm getting, "not enough parameters"
[18:50] <sneki> nekoj
[18:50] <wittyphotons> ;(
[18:50] <wittyphotons> any idea how to help?
[18:50] <gverig> Veinor: I know how to mount through command line. But since I need to do this rather often I would like to use GUI (otherwise I can just SSH to the box and use 'vi' :-\
[18:51] <wittyphotons> anyone?
[18:51] <crdlb> newberduesday: /server add -network freenode irc.freenode.net
[18:51] <newberduesday> wow, obvious. thank you :)
[18:52] <jetscreamer> Veinor: you need a sound server, or so i hear
[18:52] <Veinor> Ah, got it to work. it was a problem with audacity, not my system.
[18:52] <jetscreamer> !sound server
[18:52] <ubuntu> My account is no longer part of the sudo group somehow. Is there any way I can add it back, from the liveCD perhaps?
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:52] <gverig> danand_: It's an option. But I would much rather first try to figure out whether there are text editors that can use functionality provided in Ubuntu. Open Office can use it, Firefox can too, gedit cannot- this leads me to thinking that the best possible answer would be to find a text editor that can use functionality provided by the file manager
[18:52] <XBehave> where are ndiswrapper drivers stored?
[18:52] <wittyphotons> ??
[18:53] <cyberpoof> g'morning
[18:53] <Veinor> ubuntu: yeah, boot into the recovery mode
[18:53] <ubuntu_> i did it
[18:53] <wittyphotons> gah.
[18:53] <Veinor> you'll have a root console
[18:53] <ubuntu_> dang
[18:53] <cyberpoof> I about to install ubuntu desktop for first time
[18:53] <newbieduesday> haha
[18:53] <newbieduesday> yay!
[18:53] <cyberpoof> i installed server not knowing it was no gui..
[18:53] <cyberpoof> heh
[18:53] <scribe05> left for a minute...looking for help with this error message when I update with synaptic E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb: Verification on package /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.51_amd64.deb failed!  anyone know a fix so I can update?
[18:53] <ubuntu> Veinor: Alright, after I boot into the recovery console, what should I enter?
[18:53] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/interesting/national-geographic%e2%80%99s-best-science-images-for-2007/
[18:53] <Kitar|st> nice
[18:54] <PriceChild> scribe05, <jdong> thanks for waiting more than 5 minutes for someone to answer you <jdong> try an apt-get clean and update
[18:54] <Daviey> whoops
[18:54] <xmb> Hello. I am looking for a console utility for Ubuntu that will provide stdout information on the peak amplitude of an audio sample (or even better, sliding window of mic input) It does not need to be precise, the script in which it will reside will be easy to calibrate. Any ideas?
[18:54] <Brucevdk> Could somebody point me into the right direction if I wanted to upgrade Beagle from 0.2.18 to 0.3.3 the same way the package maintainer does? If it's a simple package with little to no dependencies I usually just checkinstall it. However, this isn't the case with Beagle. I only have minimal experience with rolling my own packages (debuild etc)
[18:54] <Veinor> ubuntu: I think admin
[18:55] <audela> Hello, I am under padder and I have set a mailserver with postfix/mysql virtaul users and it works well. When I try to use maildrop as virtual_transport the email are dlivered only if there is no cc in the mail(only one delivery address...) the logs tells "mail system configuration error" anybody have a clue ?
[18:55] <Veinor> ubuntu: adduser username admin
[18:55] <Veinor> or
[18:55] <ubuntu> Thank you :)
[18:55] <Veinor> look at /etc/sudoers
[18:55] <Alex2> !ask
[18:55] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:55] <hwilde> !fixgrub
[18:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:56] <newbieduesday> So, now that I'm on irssi and I've joined the channel and all that, why was it important for me to do this? haha
[18:56] <Veinor> ok yeah, it's admin, good. worried I messed his install up even more.
[18:56] <guille1983> I give up, would somebody please help me? sendmail doesnt work, I am trying to use php mail function and got no results
[18:56] <Grab> hi
[18:56] <Grab> can you guys please suggest any free shell where i can host eggdrop ?
[18:56] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have this other computer that is perfectly capabel of running ubuntu, its from 2000 ish, runs a celeron at 1ghz, has 128 mb ram and doesnt like to boot from the cd properly, the panels dont load so i used this computer that has more ram and a faster cpu to install ubuntu onto the hard drive and ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' from booting up in text based mode. however once i boot into normal mode in it the splash screen cras
[18:57] <newbieduesday> bluefox, does it turn black?
[18:57] <newbieduesday> i had that problem, i think a lot of peopel did
[18:57] <scribe05> back to my update problem.  I tried apt-get clean and got E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:57] <scribe05> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[18:57] <[nrx]> Grab, go and buy one. They're not expensive
[18:57] <bluefoxx> newbieduesday: it goes to text based mode, been hanging there since 7 this morning[[11 now]
[18:57] <Grab> [nrx] which one ?
[18:57] <chana> min 256 ram for live cd
[18:58] <fabiano_user_ubu> tem alguem do brasil ?
[18:58] <[nrx]> Grab, any. Google.
[18:58] <jetscreamer> scribe05: sudo ?
[18:58] <VotePedro> scribe: do you have synaptic or add/remove open?
[18:58] <PriceChild> !br | fabiano_user_ubu
[18:58] <ubotu> fabiano_user_ubu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:58] <Grab> [nrx] will it be TOTALLY private ? (i mean they wont see what server i connect the eggdrop to ?)
[18:58] <bluefoxx> chana: i booted it on 128 before, it worked, just really sluggish[it actually has 192 mb, my bad]
[18:58] <dangb> I have the desktop cd (kubuntu), is it possible to mount an already existing partition to /home during the installation process?
[18:58] <scribe05> I have update manage open right now
[18:58] <danbhfive> !xconfig | bluefoxx try this, it might be just your xserver setup
[18:58] <ubotu> bluefoxx try this, it might be just your xserver setup: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[18:58] <[nrx]> Grab , of course they will. Any admin on a server will see where you're connecting to
[18:59] <BadHorsie> what's the channel for desktop effects?
[18:59] <VotePedro> scribe: close it then run that command with sudo
[18:59] <bluefoxx> danbhfive: ok, thanks much ^^
[18:59] <Grab> [nrx] that's sad :(
[18:59] <Veinor> BadHorsie: #compiz
[18:59] <edju> Running the stock 2.6.22-14-generic kernel.  I want to dwnload the source.  Should I get "linux-source" or "linux-source-2.6.22"?
[18:59] <[nrx]> Grab, that'll always be the case lol
[18:59] <newbieduesday> seriously why did people insist that I use irssi?
[18:59] <VotePedro> why does irssi suck?
[18:59] <newbieduesday> no
[19:00] <newbieduesday> I just want to know what the benefits are,
[19:00] <newbieduesday> is it to be forced to use code more often?
[19:00] <newbieduesday> so I learn?
[19:00] <VotePedro> i dunno
[19:00] <VotePedro> i like xchat, but im using gaim
[19:00] <AndyGraybeal> vote pedro.. hah.. from a movie
[19:00] <VotePedro> lol yeah
[19:00] <taz> I am having a weird issue.. I let Ubuntu do its updates this morning, and now I have no web access... it hosed my Moblock, and I am also getting the error:
[19:00] <taz> linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:01] <bluefoxx> newbieduesday: well i prefere irssi to xchat/pidgin as its lighter on my cpu[an OCed celeron D @ 3.6ghz]
[19:01] <AndyGraybeal> VotePedro; what movie again, i can't remember
[19:01] <scribe05> looks like the help worked...thanks
[19:01] <neverblue> taz the linux-image was part of the update today
[19:01] <newbieduesday> So is it a performance thing?
[19:01] <VotePedro> napoleon dynamite
[19:01] <VotePedro> scribe: no prob
[19:01] <dangb> I have the desktop cd (kubuntu), is it possible to mount an already existing partition to /home during the installation process?
[19:01] <AndyGraybeal> aah yea
[19:01] <VotePedro> i need to watch that movie, since im sick and skipping school ya know
[19:02] <scribe05> now if anyone here can tell me why my soundcard loads every other time I start my computer, I'd be all set
[19:02] <VotePedro> what soundcard do you have?
[19:02] <mamep> nemilar : i can't use any command only if i use the full path ????
[19:03] <Tredje0ye> Hey there. Ubuntu won't connect to my router. The module is loaded, the wire is properly connected, but the network manager and dhclient won't connect to my network at all
[19:03] <Alex2> Hi. I've got an problem with probably whole GStreamer - everything connected with it or something like this (KDE based apps are grayscale too) is grayscale; all videos and visualisations (in Totem and Rythmbox, I heard that it uses GStreamer-based plugins for visualisations, but I ain't sure) are GRAYSCALE. I tried reinstalling all parts of GStreamer in the Synaptic, but it wouldn't help :/.
[19:03] <mamep> hello, i have a strange problem when i do sudo -i my paths are lost... how can i fix it?
[19:04] <scribe05> actually , I don't remember what kind of card it is.
[19:04] <VotePedro> you can find out with lspci, scribe
[19:04] <VotePedro> ...i think, that is
[19:05] <scribe05> the sound care is  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:05] <hansderelict> when trying to manually edit trip_points, i always get 'permission denied' even as root. what's going on?
[19:05] <bluefoxx> yo, anyone know what brand the on-board graphics on a asus tusi-m mobo are?
[19:05] <pike_> mamep: sudo -s?
[19:05] <Alex2> Hi. I've got an problem with probably whole GStreamer - everything connected with it or something like this (KDE based apps are grayscale too) is grayscale; all videos and visualisations (in Totem and Rythmbox, I heard that it uses GStreamer-based plugins for visualisations, but I ain't sure) are GRAYSCALE. I tried reinstalling all parts of GStreamer in the Synaptic, but it wouldn't help :/.
[19:06] <ouellettesr> how do i make a tar.gz from command line?
[19:06] <aconbere> what do people recommend in terms of imap servers?
[19:06] <aconbere> (dovecot, courier, cyrius)?
[19:06] <Otacon22> wich is the package that contains the command xv?
[19:06] <aconbere> UW
[19:06] <aconbere> :P
[19:06] <Alex2> ouellettesr: type in cmd line "man tar" for help.
[19:07] <kasra> Alex2: try gstreamer-properties
[19:07] <hoarycripple> ouellettesr, tar -czvf
[19:07] <ouellettesr> thanks hoarycripple
[19:07] <scribe05> hey votepedro...I am still having the update problem...my update manager kicked on and ried to download and install the same things I got from the apt-get and I have the same error
[19:07] <taz> So since the update hosed my moblock, and the new kernel won't finish installing.... anybody help?  I don't even know where to begin...
[19:07] <corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[19:07] <danand_> ouellettesr - tar -cpgvf files.tar.gz files
[19:08] <kasra> Alex2: done ?
[19:08] <bluefoxx> anyone have a asus tusi-m mother board?i need to know what the onboard graphics are[im basically on dial up here, otherwise io would do a web search]
[19:08] <Alex2> Yea, I've just tested my webcam and I can see mysefl, IN COLORS! YEah.
[19:08] <VotePedro> scribe: try killing the update manager and then running sudo dpkg --configure
[19:08] <taz> Another strange problem I have is that when I try to boot the kubuntu cd, it starts booting then blanks my screen.. I have a PCI-E video card, and onboard video and it isn't displaying anything on either
[19:08] <kasra> Alex2:=)
[19:08] <danand_> ouellettesr - use bzip instead - you get better compression - use the "j" option instead of "g"
[19:09] <Alex2> THX, kasra.
[19:09] <KuK0x> oola
[19:09] <KuK0x> qe tla<
[19:09] <kasra> Alex2:;)
[19:10] <deadlyallance737> is there any info on the verizion usb727 evdo device and ubuntu
[19:10] <eternalist> Can someone help me troubleshoot my sound, i went through the guide but it didn't help
[19:10] <taz> After update I can connect with Pidgin, but no web access
[19:10] <hypn0> bluefoxx: apparently it's an AGP 2x - SiS 300
[19:10] <gverig> Ahhh... Scribes can open non-local URLs from Nautilus. Not sure if anybody is interested but still. Thanks!
[19:11] <Alex2> taz: Mhm, DNS?
[19:12] <taz> mhm?
[19:12] <neverblue> taz, well, pidgin would mean 'web' access
[19:12] <hypn0> bluefoxx: an SiS630ET
[19:12] <bluefoxx> hypn0: ok, tyvm =D
[19:12] <neverblue> taz having a problem with FF ?
[19:12] <bluefoxx> hypn0: ok, thanks ^^
[19:13] <Alex2> taz: I see you can connect to the IRC, so the DNS... Maybe browser, as neverblue said...
[19:13] <taz> neverblue: yes any web browser will not connect.. even by IP.. I tried the IP of my wireless router and I can't even connect to it.. can't even ping it
[19:13] <saik1> Is there a way to make the Live CD start with no X?
[19:13] <neverblue> taz sudo aptitude install konqueror
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: edit the boot line
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: but that will be pointless
[19:14] <eternalist> i can't get the sound to work
[19:14] <eternalist> i dont get it it was just working
[19:14] <ikonia> saik1: there are other CD's more appropriate for text use
[19:14] <eternalist> i know it's not muted
[19:14] <Alex2> saik1: press ESC while booting
[19:14] <Alex2> :D
[19:14] <bluefoxx> err...how many kilobytes in 64 mb?[i forget the conversion XD]
[19:14] <ikonia> bluefoxx: http://www.t1shopper.com/tools/calculate/
[19:14] <ZimmerX> how do I install beryl on Gutsy?
[19:14] <Alex2> bluefoxx: MiB or SI MB :D
[19:15] <taz> neverblue: konqueror doesn't work.. evolution doesn't work.. seems only pidgin will connect
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: you don't - beryl is dead
[19:15] <XBehave> does bcmfwcutter come by default?
[19:15] <Alex2> ZimmerX: You cant. Install Compiz-fusion
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: it's been replaced by compiz-fusion which is already in gutsy
[19:15] <neverblue> taz, can you ping google.ca ?
[19:15] <saik1> ikonia, how do i get it to boot into singlue user mode?
[19:15] <ZimmerX> ikonia: how do I enable effects and shizzle?
[19:15] <bluefoxx> Alex2: megabytes
[19:15] <VotePedro> XBehave: yes, you just use Restricted Drivers while plugged into wired connection, and it hsould work
[19:15] <ikonia> saik1: add th eline "single" to the boot line
[19:15] <ikonia> ZimmerX: it's more developed than beryl so yes
[19:15] <neverblue> ZimmerX, enable the restricted driver, with the restricted driver manager, first
[19:15] <eternalist> No one can help me with the sound?
[19:15] <taz> neverblue: can't ping anything.. can't install anything because it can't reach repositories
[19:16] <eternalist> the guide didn't help
[19:16] <ZimmerX> neverblue: already have with Envy
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: don't use envy
[19:16] <Alex2> bluefox: Yeah, but the "SI" is 1000000, and MiB is other... 1024*1024
[19:16] <neverblue> !envy | ZimmerX
[19:16] <ubotu> ZimmerX: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: envy is a bad call
[19:16] <ZimmerX> ikonia: why?
[19:16] <neverblue> he will find out soon enough
[19:16] <holycow> hey guys.  how do i get the network manager to request a new password after it has stored it in a keyrign?
[19:16] <ikonia> ZimmerX: read the comment from ubotu
[19:17] <neverblue> 'not needed' specifically
[19:17] <saik1> ikonia, thanks
[19:17] <b4l74z4r> how will ubuntu default partition a 500gb hd, how large will each partition be?
[19:17] <holycow> it remembers the last password in the keyring but doesn't prompt for a new pass when pass on router is changed
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: how do I un-install then?
[19:17] <ikonia> ZimmerX: too late - you can't, damage done
[19:17] <neverblue> taz, maybe your under the impression that Pidgin is working, as for a solution to your issue, I think you need to narrow the problem down more
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: there must be a way....
[19:17] <mamep> pike ?
[19:17] <ikonia> ZimmerX: no, damage is done
[19:17] <ZimmerX> ikonia: so what now? I can't do anything?
[19:18] <XBehave> VotePedro: thx
[19:18] <VotePedro> no prob
[19:18] <ikonia> ZimmerX: to get a known state system again, you'd need a re-install
[19:18] <neverblue> ZimmerX, if the drivers there, then you need to enable desktop effects
[19:18] <ihmSelbst> kann man mit ubuntu 7.10 keinen 3d-cube mehr anzeigen lassen? hab da die ganzen beryl/compiz effekte, aber keinen cube !?
[19:18] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:18] <ZimmerX> neverblue: desktop effects works
[19:18] <taz> neverblue: lol how?  I have narrowed it down to pretty much all internet services not working except for some odd reason pidgin works???  I am able to chat as well.. yahoo msn etc wth
[19:18] <Pici> !de | ihmSelbst
[19:18] <ikonia> !de | ihmSelbst
[19:18] <ubotu> ihmSelbst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:18] <jholtz> algum brasileiro?
[19:18] <neverblue> ZimmerX, then what are you trying to accomplish ?
[19:19] <NoEdible> a
[19:19] <Pici> !br | jholtz
[19:19] <deadlyallance737> is there any info on the verizion usb727 evdo device and ubuntu
[19:19] <ubotu> jholtz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:19] <xtremist> русские есть?
[19:19] <b4l74z4r> desktop effects are broken in 7.10, at least if you have a nvidia card
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: no they arn't
[19:19] <ZimmerX> neverblue: is there not more effects than just the effects on the windows ( gellatine effect )
[19:19] <neverblue> taz, like I said, narrow it down more, I cannot help further, good luck
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: they are not working for you
[19:19] <VotePedro> you just need the drier
[19:19] <pteague> how do i figure out which usb port my joystick is plugged into?
[19:19] <neverblue> ZimmerX, now is when you head to the compiz channel
[19:19] <neverblue> !compiz
[19:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:19] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: if they don't work for me, then they are broken
[19:19] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: no - they are not
[19:19] <kasra> pteague: lsusb
[19:20] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: why don't they work for me then?
[19:20] <b4l74z4r> i don't have "exotic" hardware
[19:20] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: not installed/configured correctly, wrong drivers ? could be many reasons
[19:20] <jholtz> sou novo no linux, pode ajudar ? como utilizo o #ubuntu-br?
[19:20] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: you don't need exotic hardware to be miss-configued
[19:20] <neverblue> jholtz, English please
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> hello good morning/ good afternoon & good morning :D, now can someone tell a software that can allow me to change AVI files to DVD format just like Nero can
[19:21] <sedra> nerolinux
[19:21] <neverblue> Pirate-King, tovid
[19:21] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:21] <neverblue> sorry, Pirate_Hunter *
[19:21] <taz> well, I can't even seem to REINSTALL ubuntu because when I try to boot the cd, because right after I start the cd and select boot/install, it starts to load and blanks the screen... so I can't even see to reinstall..
[19:21] <mamep> anyone can help me with path problem?
[19:21] <pteague> kasra> thanks... hmm...  how do i figure out which of those relates to the usb[1-8] entries in /dev/ ? or should i be looking at the usbdevx.x_epxx entries?
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> sedra: I thought that was only for burning files
[19:21] <b4l74z4r> ikonia: but shouldn't compiz be able to configure itself correctly on regular hardware?
[19:21] <neverblue> taz, do you have 'two' heads on your video card ?
[19:22] <danand_> Pirate_Hunter - dvdrip
[19:22] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: will look into it I hope its user friendly and does the job well
[19:22] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, tovid, read the man, they even have their own channel :D
[19:22] <taz> yes, both are connected, neither is producing a signal.. the one on the motherboard is not either
[19:22] <Pirate_Hunter> danand_: isnt that for windows only "(-_-)??
[19:22] <taz> is there any way to revert to the way the system was before an update?
[19:22] <b4l74z4r> compiz should never have been inclded in ubuntu, it's still experimental
[19:22] <neverblue> taz, then use the LiveCD instead, or the ALT., which ever one you dont have...
[19:23] <bluefoxx> back[friggen power failure, while updating T_T]
[19:23] <PriceChild> !offtopic | b4l74z4r
[19:23] <ubotu> b4l74z4r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:23] <bluefoxx> so what was i aksing?
[19:23] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: ok than will check it out
[19:23] <taz> I have tried 2 different cds, both do the same thing.. both worked fine before
[19:23] <wil_> Hi.... I have tried to upgrade from 5.10 to the latest, but got problems... I just burnt a cd from a .iso and it boots in to the menu, but any option brings up a error and it reboots :( anyone got any ideas?
[19:24] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, 'tovid -wide -ntsc -in this.avi -out that'
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, you must not skip versions when upgrading
[19:24] <danand_> Pirate-Hunter - Didn't know it was on windows - its just in the Applications -> Sound & Video menu of Ubuntu!
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, 5.10 > 6.06 > 6.10 etc.
[19:24] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, something along those lines, pretty easy
[19:24] <VotePedro> wil: reburn at a lower speed, possibly?
[19:24] <VotePedro> sounds like the cd isnt a good one
[19:24] <PriceChild> wil_, you may be able to go from 6.06 straight to 8.04 in april... but that's not done yet.
[19:24] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: hmm shell based no gui hmm....
[19:25] <wil_> it boots in to a menu with the ubuntu logo at the top, but then any option brings up a error
[19:25] <VotePedro> the cd integrity check even?
[19:25] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, i think there maybe a front end for it, but really, it runs faster when not displaying the video....
[19:25] <Codenut> I just tried to upgrade from fiesty to gutsy and it told me I have not enabled ¨universe¨ to get 3rd party files. How do I enable them.
[19:25] <wil_> is there anyway I can update online? it just says my version is to old? I just want to get wine + latest version to do some testing... if it works with our erp app, we can switch the office to ubuntu, but I only have a old cd
[19:25] <wil_> and for some reason, whenever I burn, I get a error
[19:26] <VotePedro> Codenut: in the menu, under System -> Administration (I think), software sources. Add it there
[19:26] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: I guess so but that only works if you know the commands and if it detects the film ratio etc automatically
[19:26] <BoostedSS> ok, I just plugged in an external monitor to my laptop and now I rebooted and it wont startx anymore :(  how to I reset it?
[19:26] <wil_> but, the cd seems to work fine in explorer,  (of the file broswesr... not sure on linux terms!) I just can not see anything wrong
[19:26] <VotePedro> wil: what did you use to burn it>
[19:26] <neverblue> Pirate_Hunter, i would suggest a good read of the man and the #tovid channel, they are really helpful (when around)
[19:26] <hansderelict> how do i change the settings in the file trip_points using the 'echo' command? here is what i would like to change: critical (S5):           85 C, next line: passive:                 80 C: tc1=2 tc2=3 tsp=100 devices=CPU0 CPU1. thanks for any help.
[19:27] <Codenut> Could it be unsupport updates, also called fiesty backports?
[19:27] <danand_> Codenut - either manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list or open synaptics and go to settings -> repositories
[19:28] <Pirate_Hunter> neverblue: kk thanx will do so :D
[19:28] <neverblue> np
[19:28] <kasra> pteague: maybe /dev/js* or /dev/input/js*
[19:28] <wil_> is there anyway I can update 5.10 to the latest without cd... just commands / online update?
[19:28] <danand_> Codenut - synaptics is probably easier way
[19:29] <DRebellion> wil_: you can use, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (but i wouldn't recommend it)
[19:29] <b4l74z4r> how will ubuntu default partition a 500gb hd, how large will each partition be?
[19:29] <extern> I noticed 3 strange connections in firestarter to my computer from the same ip to ports 53217, 53209 and 53210. How can I know what are they doing and how can I terminate them?
[19:29] <dangb> I already have openSUSE installed, how can I install ubuntu without messing up my existing grub setup?
[19:29] <VotePedro> b4l74z4r: Ubuntu will use all of it for /, except for the swap
[19:30] <BoostedSS> what is the command line utility to configure the graphics?
[19:30] <b4l74z4r> ok
[19:30] <Codenut> Thanks gang. I am heading for the edge of the cliff now.
[19:30] <DRebellion> gverig: its easy to mount:   mount -t cifs //server/share/path /mountpoint
[19:30] <kasra> BoostedSS: maybe you should change xorg.conf like before
[19:30] <DRebellion> extern: netstat -p
[19:31] <wil_> DRebellion,  I will try.... this is not a production pc, I just want to get the latest version on... one way or another so I can just train myself and learn a few things
[19:31] <kasra> BoostedSS: take a look at it , /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:31] <wil_> at the moment, I can do basic things in linux and support it where needed.... but if something screws up, I am buggered! I dont know it inside out or anything
[19:31] <DRebellion> wil_: then do a clean install with the cd
[19:31] <extern> DRebellion, the connection for some reason is not listed in there, but it is shown as active in firestarter
[19:32] <DRebellion> extern: are they doing anything? take a look at output from   tcpdump
[19:32] <wil_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[19:32] <wil_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[19:32] <DRebellion> wil_: sudo apt-get update
[19:33] <wil_> I want to do a clean install, but every time I try to burn, no matter what speed, I get errors :(
[19:33] <wil_> tried on multi pcs
[19:33] <DRebellion> !shipit | wil_
[19:33] <ubotu> wil_: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[19:34] <wil_> got another error when running that :(
[19:34] <wil_> thanks, il take a look at ship it
[19:34] <ouellettesr> can someone help me with this, not sure what went wrong http://pastebin.com/m70af9c74
[19:34] <darkblue_B> Hello- Just geting a new package running on 7.10/amd64.. it seems that /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders has a bunch of .so files, but *not* the svg loader I need.. ???
[19:35] <d33d> Last week, I left my 2 XP CDs on my dashboard in plain view. Someone broke into my car and left 2 more.
[19:35] <DRebellion> !offtopic | d33d
[19:35] <ubotu> d33d: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:35] <danand_> ouellettesr - you need to tar -xvgf .... the tar file has been compressed with gzip
[19:35] <d33d> !offtopic | DRebellion
[19:35] <zen_> Witam
[19:35] <ubotu> DRebellion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:36] <extern> DRebellion, I don't see that ip doing something in tcpdump. I searched for the ports I listed on google, and it seems that they are used by some kind of trojans
[19:36] <DRebellion> ouellettesr: you need to run it as   tar xzvf
[19:36] <ouellettesr> danand_, thanks
[19:36] <edju> Running the stock 2.6.22-14-generic kernel.  I want to dwnload the source.  Should I get "linux-source" or "linux-source-2.6.22"?
[19:36] <[-Delta-]> I dont know how to really explain this problem i'm encountering but ill try: Basically the windows and taskbars are not using the screens full reach. like it thinks i'ts a 1024x768 but its not...
[19:36] <puff> So, I upgraded my thinkpad t43p to gutsy.
[19:36] <danand_> ouellettesr - note the extra "g" - you should use bzip though - that gives better compression - to use that replace g with j
[19:36] <puff> And, I was kinda hesitant to do so, becauses when I upgraded to feisty, hibernate broke.
[19:37] <puff> So guess what?  Suspend and hibernate are broken on gutsy.
[19:37] <cyber_dude> how can I list all files on my Ubuntu server by their size desc?
[19:37] <danand_> ouellettesr - name files file.tar.bz2
[19:37] <DRebellion> cyber_dude: du -a (you may want -h aswell for human readable) /
[19:37] <[-Delta-]> How do I fix it?
[19:37] <HollyDancer> русскоговорящие есть?
[19:37] <Pici> !ru | HollyDancer
[19:37] <ubotu> HollyDancer: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:37] <DRebellion> edju: you want linux-source
[19:37] <ouellettesr> danand_, ca i also use -p when extracting or is that only when creating archive
[19:38] <[-Delta-]> Okay then :P
[19:38] <[-Delta-]> :|
[19:39] <[-Delta-]> Moo?
[19:39] <danand_> ouellettesr - the p just means to preserve permissions - I prefer this
[19:39] <stumped> index of /
[19:39] <extern> so is there a way to terminate those connections?
[19:39] <danand_> ouellettesr - that should read "preserve the origional permissions"
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about shipit
[19:40] <danand_> ouellettesr - that should read "preserve the *original permissions" :)
[19:40] <blaker> this is going to sound stupid. i have tried everything, i put my windows fonts in /usr/share/fonts, i still can't get firefox on ubuntu to load pages as they were meant to be seen. what is wrong?
[19:40] <stumped> shipit
[19:40] <ouellettesr> danand_, will i have to use it when extracting though, being i created the archve with the -p option
[19:40] <kazil> hey all! does anyone knows is D-Link DWL-922 E Wireless Kit supported in ubuntu 7.10? or where do i check it?
[19:40] <stumped> pastebin - collaborative debugging tool
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about offtopic
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about offtopic
[19:40] <stumped> I don't know anything about ru
[19:41] <blaker> any ideas?
[19:41] <DRebellion> !hcl | kazil
[19:41] <ubotu> kazil: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about hcl
[19:41] <gub> !sound
[19:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about sound
[19:41] <DRebellion> !ops | stumped
[19:41] <ubotu> stumped: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[19:41] <ouellettesr> blaker, you trying to get windows fonts in firefox?
[19:41] <kazil> thank u DRebellion
[19:41] <stumped> main page - alsa wiki
[19:41] <stumped> I don't know anything about ops
[19:41] <blaker> no, usr/shared/fonts
[19:42] <danand_> ouellettesr - only if you wish to preserve permissions - otherwise I think some files permissions can get a bit messed up - ie executables etc
[19:42] <blaker> it doesn't matter, OOo is recognizing the fonts, they're installed. but firefox still looks like shit when it loads pages
[19:42] <DRebellion> !language | blaker
[19:42] <ubotu> blaker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:42] <blaker> like google is using the wrong fonts
[19:42] <ouellettesr> blaker i put all my custom fonts in /home/usr/.fonts/
[19:42] <ouellettesr> oh i see
[19:42] <regeya> !msttcorefonts
[19:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <danand_> ouellettesr - not too much of a worry though - the p option is just a nicety really
[19:43] <regeya> darnnation
[19:43] <blaker> i'm wondering if the fonts are not the only problem
[19:43] <DRebellion> blaker: yeah, i agree. i'm pretty sure they're supposed to be in .fonts
[19:43] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[19:43] <blaker> could anything else contribute to these pages not loading as they should?
[19:43] <blaker> it's almost like all the fonts are too small
[19:43] <regeya> dumb question, blaker, but have you restarted firefox since installing the correct fonts
[19:43] <regeya> oh...heh.
[19:43] <blaker> i did
[19:43] <regeya> !dpi
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <juharrr> hello, can someone help me up with a wine how-to??
[19:43] <regeya> dang!
[19:43] <A|iena> italiani??
[19:43] <blaker> i have restarted my computer since
[19:43] <ouellettesr> danand_, this is what im trying to do, and it just hangs there  tar -xpvgf grbackup.tar.gz
[19:43] <DRebellion> !it | A|iena
[19:43] <darkblue_B> Hello- Just geting a new package running on 7.10/amd64.. it seems that /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders has a bunch of .so files, but *not* the svg loader I need.. ???
[19:43] <ubotu> A|iena: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:44] <jussi01> !wine | juharrr
[19:44] <ubotu> juharrr: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:44] <darkblue_B> I found another svg loader, but wth an unexpectd name.. I have to soft lnk?
[19:44] <b4l74z4r> blaker, i've been trying to get fonts to look "right" in ubuntu for ages, i use opera instead
[19:44] <juharrr> yes, i found a how-to, but i cant follow it
[19:44] <regeya> I seem to recall that there's a doc on the wiki about setting dpi and whatnot, blaker, and if you're running firefox under gnome, it'll likely just default to 96dpi
[19:45] <blaker> so i'm not the only one
[19:45] <danand_> ouellettesr - How big is the archive you are trying to extract - ie whats the file size?
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> i mean firefox of course
[19:45] <blaker> it really bothers me when i'm on google or something. it just doesn't look right
[19:45] <juharrr> jussi01, can you help me pls?
[19:45] <juharrr> its about 5 minutes of time
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> blaker, i've been trying to get fonts to look "right" in firefox for ages, i use opera instead
[19:45] <ouellettesr> danand_, 8.2mb
[19:45] <blaker> eh
[19:45] <blaker> i suppose i can give opera a shot
[19:45] <blaker> but i love firefox
[19:45] <darkblue_B> ln --symbolic targ src ??
[19:45] <b4l74z4r> opera has session saver
[19:45] <ouellettesr> danand_, im ssh into my webserver and trying to ectract it there
[19:46] <b4l74z4r> i love that feature
[19:46] <jussi01> juharrr: what are you trying to install?
[19:46] <blaker> wtf, opera is not in ubuntu packages
[19:46] <blaker> forget it
[19:46] <pike_> blaker: opera is nice but you will come accross websites that give you trouble sometimes.
[19:46] <Pici> !opera
[19:46] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[19:46] <PriceChild> !wtf | blaker
[19:46] <darkblue_B> ln --symbolic newFile src ??
[19:46] <ubotu> blaker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:47] <Tree10> I am trying to enable my nvidia 8400gs driver and getting error: Softwawre source package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[19:48] <juharrr> jussi01, i queried you, i hope you noticed :)
[19:48] <MaxRide> I have a quick question, I'm trying to install the GUI onto 7.10 Server. Can anyone hook me up with the command to pull it from the net?
[19:48] <regeya> I dunno.  I'm not having problems, but well, there's a gazillion different pieces of advice if you google for it.  http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/howto-beat-firefoxs-ui-fonts-into-submission/
[19:48] <DRebellion> MaxRide: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:48] <VotePedro> MaxRide: or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop :p
[19:48] <jussi01> juharrr: nope, no queries here
[19:48] <cyber_dude> I had a 32GB message file which filled up my HD 100%..... I just deleted the file but doing a df still shows a full HD, while doing a du -c shows only 2.8 GBs... anyone know whats going oin?
[19:48] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[19:48] <blaker> why would opera look any better?
[19:48] <blaker> i doubt it
[19:49] <danand_> ouellettesr - wierd - try creating the archive again but without the g flag. ie tar -cpvf file.tar files.... Sometimes different machines may have different versions of gzip installed and this can cause problems
[19:49] <MaxRide> Pedro, Rebellion: Thanks. Can it pull it off the CD with that same command?
[19:49] <darkblue_B> ohhh.. the svg loader is in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0.. but *not* in my /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0
[19:49] <juharrr> jussi01, im trying following how-to: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6307
[19:49] <DRebellion> MaxRide: its not on the server cd
[19:49] <Breakage> is opera qt based to gtk??
[19:49] <blaker> sounds like an opera fanboy trying to get me to switch, i dont see why fonts would look any better in opera
[19:49] <VotePedro> MaxRideL probably not
[19:49] <b4l74z4r> blaker: i don't know why, i just know that it does
[19:49] <darkblue_B> so a link would be 'unlucky' :-)
[19:49] <Breakage> or*
[19:49] <ouellettesr> danand_, thanks ill gove it a go
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: did you delete it as root.. if so it is in a different .Trash
[19:49] <blaker> looks EXACTLY the same
[19:49] <blaker> fonts are too small on google
[19:49] <juharrr> jussi01, i downloadet wine src, extracted, and tried the other things, but failed
[19:49] <DRebellion> blaker: it uses a different html rendering engine.
[19:49] <MaxRide> Pedro, Rebbelion: Thanks guys!  =/  UPS guys here so I'm AFK
[19:49] <darkblue_B> I stll need the svg loader for lib32 gtk-2.0
[19:49] <blaker> and digg and other known websites dont look right
[19:50] <darth_nader> hello anyone know of a ppp client that does multi link ppp with 2 dialup modems
[19:50] <damien_> anyone know how to get oidentd working behind a router?
[19:50] <jussi01> juharrr: wine is in the repositories
[19:50] <DRebellion> damien_: forward the port to the router??
[19:50] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I did delete it as root.. how to I find/delete it from the .Trash?
[19:50] <damien_> doesn't work
[19:50] <VotePedro> juharr: you can also add the wine repos to get the latest version
[19:50] <juharrr> jussi01, i even dont know what the "repositories" are
[19:50] <b4l74z4r> why would i get anyone to use opera, unless it was because i think the fonts looke better?
[19:50] <damien_> there appears to be a complication in being behind a router
[19:50] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Look for another .Trash under /root
[19:51] <blaker> same reason people try and switch others over to mac
[19:51] <b4l74z4r> how would recommending opera benefit me?
[19:51] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32/gtk-2.0, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:51] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: people like different things
[19:51] <jussi01> !repositories | juharrr
[19:51] <ubotu> juharrr: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[19:51] <VotePedro> juharr: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[19:51] <blaker> "i'm having a problem doing ______ on windows. can you help?" "get a mac, that worked for me"
[19:51] <blaker> it's stupid
[19:51] <ikonia> blaker: where have you seen that ?
[19:51] <Tree10> I am trying to enable my nvidia 8400gs driver and getting error: Softwawre source package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[19:51] <DRebellion> !offtopic | blaker b4l74z4r
[19:51] <ubotu> blaker b4l74z4r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:52] <jussi01> juharrr: go to synaptic, search for wine, install
[19:52] <blaker> !language | DRebellion
[19:52] <ubotu> DRebellion: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:52] <juharrr> jussi01, you dont got my problem
[19:52] <pike_> blaker: there are quite a few of us in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:52] <ikonia> blaker: he's not using bad language
[19:52] <m1r> hello
[19:52] <ikonia> blaker: don't abuse the bot
[19:52] <VotePedro> hello
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> b4l74z4r: By increasing the number of people using the same product as yourself, you increase support and the probability that it will stay around.  Example.. netscape
[19:52] <juharrr> jussi01, im trying to make this mouse-cursor hack http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6307
[19:53] <m1r> i have pheno 9500 and 4gb ram, ubuntu detecting only 3 gb ram, i am using 7.10 32 bit, whats wrong ?
[19:53] <DRebellion> blaker: This is an ubuntu support channel. If you wish to discuss _anything_ else, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> juharrr: You might try asking in #winehq
[19:53] <b4l74z4r> Jack_Sparrow: ok i suppose so, but that wasn't really my intention, i really don't think that "globally"
[19:53] <juharrr> in this network?
[19:53] <lord_boromir> use 64bit version
[19:53] <m1r> how is support for packages in 64 bit ?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> juharrr: Yes  /j #winehq
[19:53] <ikonia> m1r: fine
[19:53] <ikonia> m1r: depends what you want
[19:53] <juharrr> ty
[19:54] <DRebellion> m1r: there is a 3.2 gb ram limit for 32bit processors.
[19:54] <m1r> ok tnx DRebellion
[19:54] <m1r> ikonia: flash
[19:54] <weltschmerz> i don't see pulseaudio in my sound preferences.  anyone know exactly what packages i need to install to get it?
[19:54] <ikonia> m1r: not progresed much
[19:54] <darkblue_B> m1r: I asked abou tt hs on a newsgroup.. after a long thread, the concesus was that there is no reason to stick with the 32bit distro anymore
[19:54] <darkblue_B> .. for hardware that supports 64
[19:55] <xurax> hi
[19:55] <ikonia> darkblue_B: thats nonsense.
[19:55] <danand_> Tree10 - have you enabled the driver? - See System -> Admin -> Restricted driver management
[19:55] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I can't find any trash files..
[19:55] <ronny1> so i guess we should start using x86_64 from now
[19:55] <darkblue_B> ikonia: informed people had diferent opinions, but that was the majority response.. so its not nonsnese
[19:56] <xurax> how musst i write gaps of a path in a shell script?
[19:56] <ronny1> so i guess we should start using x86_64 Ubuntu from now
[19:56] <ikonia> darkblue_B: it is nonsense
[19:56] <Tree10> danand did that and got that error message
[19:56] <darkblue_B> ikonia: informed people had diferent opinions, but that was the majority response.. so its not nonsnese
[19:56] <darkblue_B> svg_loader.so for lib32/gtk-2.0, Ubuntu amd64.. any leads??
[19:56] <ikonia> darkblue_B: the principal is sound, but the practicality not
[19:56] <DRebellion> xurax: \
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: under /root/.Trash   You dont see anything with hidden files enabled
[19:56] <DRebellion> xurax: path/to/file\ with\ gap
[19:56] <cousin_luigi> hi
[19:56] <danand_> Tree10 - have you restarted after enabling??
[19:57] <m1r> i puted 7.10 32 bit live cd and now it showing 366123 ram
[19:57] <Schiz0> I'm using Ubuntu server 7.10, and I'm trying to optimize apache22. The apache performance Tuning manual says this: "On some operating systems, mmap does not scale as well as read(2) when the number of CPUs increases."  Is this true for Ubuntu 7.10?
[19:57] <xurax> ah ok
[19:57] <ikonia> m1r: thats the limit of the stock 32bit setup
[19:57] <cousin_luigi> I've moved root to another partition and it worked
[19:57] <Tree10> dinand - it wont enable that is the problem
[19:57] <blaker> racist!
[19:57] <m1r> ok tnx ikonia
[19:57] <sunseeker888> hi guys, does ubuntu has a video software to use with webcam to make little clips
[19:57] <PriceChild> blaker, who?
[19:57] <ikonia> Schiz0: should be ok because of ntpl support
[19:57] <cousin_luigi> after today's kernel update, menu.lst has been updated with pointers to the old partition
[19:57] <darth_nader> hello anyone know of a ppp client that does multi link ppp with 2 dialup modems
[19:57] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: under /root there is no /.Trash even with hidden files enabled
[19:58] <cousin_luigi> where do I set that?
[19:58] <ikonia> PriceChild: blaker is pointing random bot factoids at people
[19:58] <DRebellion> sunseeker888: yes. you can use any video encoder really.
[19:58] <pike_> sunseeker888: you can just use vlc for this or there are dedicated webcam apps
[19:58] <blaker> factoids?
[19:58] <Schiz0> ikonia: ok, so mmap() is more efficient to use than read() on a multiprocesser 64-bit server?
[19:58] <danand_> Tree10 - oh :(
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Would someone verify I got that right.. there should be /root/.Trash folder
[19:58] <ikonia> Schiz0: in most senarios I believe so
[19:58] <Schiz0> ikonia: Thanks
[19:58] <pike_> Jack_Sparrow: maybe not if you never logged in as root
[19:59] <ikonia> Schiz0: thats not fact, just my opinion
[19:59] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow,  there "shouldn't if you're not using root nautius
[19:59] <sunseeker888> Pike, I am new where do i search for a dedicated web apps? anyone included in ubuntu install
[19:59] <Schiz0> well I don't know any better, so I'll trust your opinion :-P
[19:59] <ikonia> Schiz0: apache runs on dual quad core xeons in enterprise environments for me with ubuntu - no issues
[19:59] <danand_> Tree10 - Do you mean it won't allow you to check the tickbox next to the listed driver?
[20:00] <sunseeker888> Drebbllion, where  do i get a video encoder?
[20:00] <[1]panfist> everytime i log in i get some dialog about my keyboard layout settings between different between X and GNOME, but according to any settings I can see they show up the same. it's preventing me from logging in remotely. why does X think i have a 101 key keyboard when xorg.conf says I have 105?
[20:00] <pike_> sunseeker888: probably best thread is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143732&highlight=RECORD+WEbcam
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Silly me, I am using Thunar.. not as root.. and I do see /root/.Trash
[20:00] <sunseeker888> smashing pike, cheers
[20:00] <kadakas> Heeeelp! I installed some nfs packages to use nfs. Then Nautilus wouldn't start and i used Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart gdm. Gdm did not start and after rebooting gdm will not load. It will not show any errors, just the "loading" mouse cursor. Please help, i need this laptop at school tomorrow! :(
[20:00] <regeya> whee.
[20:00] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, well some sort of graphical app as root
[20:00] <mediabuntu> can any one help i can get dhcp server3 to start
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Look using  gksudo nautilus
[20:01] <ikonia> mediabuntu: what happens when you try to start it
[20:01] <mediabuntu> i get (failed)
[20:01] <DRebellion> kadakas: after you boot, press ctrl+alt+f2 . and uninstall the packages you installed. and DONT PANIC !
[20:01] <Tree10> danand - It lets me check it and when I select enable driver I get the error: The software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled
[20:01] <ikonia> mediabuntu: look in /var/log/messages
[20:01] <mediabuntu> ok , i have just rebooted btw i was lookin in /var/log/system
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: Since you just deleted it those files as root I assumed you were already in root.. my mistake
[20:02] <danand_> Tree10 - wait one..
[20:02] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:which Ubuntu cop would you recommend for someone wanting to install ubuntu as a desktop (Athlon 64 x2 5400). x86_64 or the i386 (32 bit)
[20:02] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I was logged in as root?? i am not following u
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cyber_dude: You will find the missing trash in /.Trash  or /root/.Trash  using gksudo nautilus
[20:03] <mediabuntu> ikonia:dhcpd: Wrote 2 leases to leases file.
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: Ubuntu cop ?  what is that
[20:04] <mediabuntu> how when it hasnt started yet ?
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: looks like it's running then
[20:04] <mediabuntu> dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[20:04] <danand_> Tree10 - Have you enabled the use of repository for restricted drivers in synaptics -> Settings -> Repositories??
[20:04] <mediabuntu> i canr start it lol
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: it's already start
[20:04] <ikonia> started
[20:04] <ikonia> mediabuntu: thats why it's failing
[20:05] <cyber_dude> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using the server version of Ubuntu
[20:05] <mediabuntu> but it even fails to stop
[20:05] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:sorry . cop=copy
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: ps -ef | grep dhcp see if it's running
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: it may be failing to stop
[20:05] <mediabuntu> ikonia look Stopping DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[20:05] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:should have said distro
[20:05] <sunseeker888> sudo apt-get install vlc-nox
[20:05] <ikonia> mediabuntu: that means it failed to stop
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: I run 32bit on everythin here.. even the 64 bit boxes
[20:05] <mediabuntu> yes its running
[20:05] <sunseeker888> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:06] <ikonia> mediabuntu: ahh ok, so the stop is failing
[20:06] <JosiahW> Anybody know if the gvfs bug in Hardy Alpha 3 has a fix? The network:/// Nautilus display error. A fix that doesnt involve changing to smb:///
[20:06] <mediabuntu> ikonia i want ot run diskless system .
[20:06] <ronny1> Jack_Sparrow:is there a problem with the 64 bit version ?
[20:06] <ikonia> mediabuntu: possible, but not the best setup
[20:06] <sunseeker888> i am installed Vlc, and  i am getting segmentation fault (core dumped? what does that mean
[20:06] <tonynlisa> Anyone aware of a application for ubuntu for drawing a network topology map?
[20:06] <mediabuntu> i know but its sort of like a backup. my main hard disk has been failing for moths now :(
[20:07] <ikonia> mediabuntu: diskless systems are not hte way to deal with it
[20:07] <Tree10> danand - ok i did
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ronny1: I would not say there is a problem with it.  I just dont see much speed difference (at least when I tried it)
[20:07] <ronny1> ok
[20:07] <[1]panfist> how can i install the newest version of nautilus on gutsy?
[20:07] <mediabuntu> iknonia ok, im going to reboot see if i can get an ip.
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: ubuntu will tell you if updates are available
[20:08] <[1]panfist> ikonia i would like to experiment with the version that's going to be in hardy heron
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: thats not advisable
[20:08] <ikonia> [1]panfist: just wait for hardy to come out
[20:08] <danand_> Tree10 - and you still get the same problem when you try to enable the driver
[20:09] <Tree10> danand - yes
[20:09] <ValiDOM> I've got a problem with ipppd ... installed it and de-installed it (with dselect). But the default-route to the ipppd is still there after boot. I de-installed all 'ppp',  but the route still comes up. Does anybody know how to disable it on boot (route del... does it now)
[20:09] <[1]panfist> why would it be unadvisable? would it be any harder than running kde4 on kubuntu?
[20:09] <darkblue_B> I found a post that said to remove the reference to the svg loader from the gtk-2.0 gdk-pixbuf.loaders.32 setup file
[20:09] <danand_> Tree10 - Sorry - thats me stumped then!! :( Anyone else??
[20:09] <Flannel> [1]panfist: If you want to do that, the best advice is to try Hardy in its entirety.  Of course, its still alpha software.
[20:10] <darkblue_B> sofar, that cleared the error, though I have one more gotcha to move forward
[20:10] <[1]panfist> flannel oh well i guess i will just wait
[20:10] <darkblue_B> I made a dup backup of the orig file
[20:10] <Flannel> [1]panfist: you could always try it via LiveCD
[20:10] <Mba7eth2> hi guys .... how can i disable telnet in my box ?
[20:10] <darkblue_B> why no svg loader?  seems .. well, politics or something..
[20:11] <ValiDOM> Mba7eth2, apt-get remove telnetd
[20:11] <darkblue_B> svg loader is there for the current gtk-2.0
[20:11] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: telnet server is not running by default
[20:11] <Cyrus25801> what must i install to watch rmvb files
[20:11] <b4l74z4r> i installed ubuntu as an experiment with default partitioning and all my folders under / have 970mb free space, but my home folder (also under /) have only 227mb free space, how can that be?
[20:12] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: how big is the partitions
[20:12] <Mba7eth2> ikonia: i recently installed it :)
[20:12] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: so uninstall it
[20:12] <[1]panfist> flannel if it's so unstable that it's not advisable for me to install the newest version of nautilus by itself i doubt i really want it running anyway. what's so bad about it...would it just be difficult to setup or ?
[20:12] <CieD> Evening, can anyone tell me the password I need to unlock the network on a Hardy Live CD?
[20:12] <b4l74z4r> root is 10gb
[20:12] <Mba7eth2> ikonia: can i just disable it ?
[20:12] <ikonia> Mba7eth2: are you launching it through xinetd ?
[20:12] <MaxRide> Back again: I tried sudo apt-get install ubutnu-desktop, but the package isn't on the CD (I tried a desktop CD as well) and my ethernet adapter isn't enabled (but I did physically connect it to the LAN, finally). Anyone have any ideas?
[20:12] <DRebellion> Mba7eth2: it will be in  system -> administration -> services
[20:13] <b4l74z4r> ikonia:  i didn't partition manually
[20:13] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: stick the output of "df -h" into a pastebin
[20:13] <DRebellion> MaxRide: what do you mean by "isn't enabled"?
[20:13] <Flannel> [1]panfist: the new nautilus has dependencies of libraries that are newer than the ones in Gutsy.  So you'd have to backport those, and then hope they'll live side by side and play nice (which is unlikely)
[20:13] <ikonia> MaxRide: why are you installing ubuntu-desktop - it's already installed
[20:13] <DRebellion> ikonia: he is using server
[20:14] <ikonia> DRebellion: ughhh another one........
[20:14] <MaxRide> Rebel: It's not configured. In YAST I opted to config it later, but didn't realise I didn't know the ifconfig utility.
[20:14] <Flannel> MaxRide: you need the Alternate CD, not the Desktop CD to be able to install it from the CD (the desktop CD doesnt have a repository on it)
[20:14] <ikonia> MaxRide: yast ????
[20:14] <Mba7eth2> DRebellion : thanks
[20:14] <DRebellion> MaxRide: yast ???
[20:14] <MaxRide> Ikon:  Oh, sorry....I was installing Novell on it earlier, which didn't work.
[20:14] <sanozuke> does anyone know's how to boot a .ISO from a HD
[20:14] <ikonia> MaxRide: that doesn't explain yast
[20:14] <MaxRide> SUSE Linux w/ Novell services**
[20:14] <sanozuke> xubuntu .iso
[20:15] <panfist> flannel i see. thanks for the info
[20:15] <pike_> !install > sanozuke should help
[20:15] <ikonia> MaxRide: why are you not installing the desktop version
[20:15] <DRebellion> MaxRide: sudo ifup eth0
[20:15] <sanozuke> ok
[20:15] <sanozuke> i'll check pike
[20:15] <MaxRide> @Ikon: I want to test some PHP stuff, so I need a LAMP.    Rebel, Let my get that typed in.
[20:15] <ikonia> MaxRide: you can do that on the desktop server
[20:16] <ikonia> MaxRide: the desktop edition acts as a great server
[20:16] <Rezun> hi there
[20:16] <ikonia> MaxRide: with the bonus that the desktop is confgured and ready to go
[20:16] <DRebellion> MaxRide: if you're installing a gui anyway, just go for the desktop edition
[20:16] <blix_> Im looking for a free E-mail server
[20:16] <Rezun> i've got a problem with my harddisk in my notebook. It seems that the partition-table is broken. Parted allways gives me an error like "Can't have overlapping partitions". So i'm searching for a way to clean the partition table completely. Someone able to help?
[20:16] <DRebellion> !mta | blix_
[20:16] <ubotu> blix_: A Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is the server software that sends and queues mail. The default MTA (and !MDA) on Ubuntu is !postfix ("exim" is also officially supported). See also !MailServer and !MUA
[20:16] <MaxRide> Rebel: Says unknown interface     Ikon: How quickly can I get a LAMP server on the desktop edition?
[20:16] <ikonia> blix_: there are plenty postfix, exim, sendmail
[20:16] <darkblue_B> se where can I ask a 'up and running ' question about Java6 on Ubuntu 7.10 ?? basically the jar utility is there, but wont run from the command line
[20:16] <Flannel> MaxRide: Linux makes no distinctions between "server" and "desktop", the different CDs merely have different default packages.  You'll need the alternate CD to be able to install the desktop.  And even if you can't get internet working, you'll be able to use your current server CD as a repository to install the server stuff
[20:17] <ikonia> MaxRide: install apache2, mysql-server and php5
[20:17] <blix_> right ok..thanks folks
[20:17] <wil_> is there any way to test a cd to make sure it is the same as a iso? I have just waisted 3 cds trying to get the latest version of ubuntu working :( the .iso works fine under virtual machines, but they all fail after boot
[20:17] <Flannel> MaxRide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:17] <kadakas> DRebellion: didn't work :( It just keeps trying to load gdm. The last line ubuntu shows is: "Running local scripts" or something - after a while the screen just blanks
[20:17] <ubuntu_> co slychac?
[20:17] <blix_> more specifically..is there anything in the open source world like MS Outlook
[20:17] <wil_> I just want to test the latest version of ubuntu :(
[20:17] <kadakas> i cant understand how installing nfs-common can break my gdm
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: evolution is closest i believe
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: also umm lotus notes works in linux :)
[20:18] <ader10> I've successfully gotten Photoshop to work under wine. I would like to change the generic image  icon to the regular .psd icon. I have the image I need but I can't find out how to change it. Help please :)
[20:18] <blix_> evolution..ok, I do require the full works like Calender, tasks, inbox, etc..
[20:18] <blix_> pike..lol
[20:18] <MaxRide> All:    Excellent. I think I have a few things to try then.  I'll go ahead and get the Alterate CD from the site and burn it.  After that I'll try to get the GUI to install again.....Failing at that I'll just install desktop and then put apache on it.
[20:18] <pike_> blix_: i havent used evolution but i believe it has all the goodies
[20:19] <Webu> If i assing another IP-address to eth0, does Ubuntu remember that after a reboot?
[20:19] <Flannel> MaxRide: `sudo apt-cdrom add` is how you'll add the CD to your repositories (with the alternate in the drive)
[20:19] <blix_> pike_ ok...I'll take a look at that.
[20:19] <DRebellion> ader10: This is not an ubuntu issue. I suggest you take a look at appdb.winehq.org and/or ask in #wine.
[20:19] <blix_> time to get busy.
[20:19] <xidarian> no
[20:19] <ader10> DRebellion: It is an ubuntu issue. Photoshop is working fine. I just need to change the psd icons.
[20:20] <MaxRide> Flennel: Last stupid question from me for a while:  Desktop-alt or Server-alt cd?
[20:20] <Wiredtape> hey, I am trying to build an ircd but keep getting an error from the c compiler (this is the second ircd that has responded this way) - error is: no defined package in confdefs.h
[20:20] <DRebellion> ader10: Last time I checked, Photoshop was not native to linux, and therefore not native to ubuntu.
[20:20] <blix_> pike_ this looks perfect.
[20:20] <isleshocky77> Where is the best place to get help with LDAP. I have slapd and phpldapadmin setup and working.  And I can do an ldapsearch from a remote machine and pull the info from the ldap server. But none of the info is showing up in apple addressbook, outlook, or outlook express.
[20:20] <Flannel> MaxRide: there is no "server alt" CD, just the "Alternate", and thats the right one
[20:20] <ader10> DRebellion: Forget photoshop. I'm not concerned with that. I'm trying to change an icon for a mime type.
[20:20] <MaxRide> Flannel: Roger that. Thanks!  =)
[20:21] <ader10> DRebellion: Do you have any ideas on how to change the icon for a mime type?
[20:21] <Iradieh> Has anyone tried to getting ubuntu or other dist on a flashed x360?
[20:21] <BernardB> How can I auto rejoin on a kick or kickban (oper) in XChat?
[20:21] <Webu> If i assing another IP-address to eth0 (so it'll become eth0:1), does Ubuntu remember that after a reboot?
[20:21] <Corty> Iradieh, That would be sweet :)
[20:22] <Iradieh> Corty you got a flashed x360?
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, Noo, i said it would be
[20:22] <pike_> isleshocky77: im impressed youve gotten that far :) update wiki if you have a chance when you get it working
[20:22] <DRebellion> ader10: replace the existing icon file.
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, Ah, no, just thinking
[20:22] <Corty> Iradieh, you do?
[20:22] <ader10> DRebellion: I don't have a svg though and that's what the system is using.
[20:22] <PriceChild> BernardB, I wouldn't if I were you...
[20:22] <DRebellion> BernardB: I do not recommend auto-rejoin. If you are kicked, and rejoin straight away, the op will simply ban you.
[20:23] <isleshocky77> pike_: Thanks. hahah
[20:23] <isleshocky77> pike_: Yeah. the manuals don't really help that much. I had a lot of going back and forth between root user setup in config in phpldapadmin to finally being able to login to it using a user.
[20:24] <freakyy> hi all. what is the standard device for a touchpad?
[20:24] <ader10> DRebellion: You don't know how?
[20:25] <tts> hey i get it wrking i git the ip adress
[20:26] <eek> hello
[20:26] <BernardB> DRebellion, PriceChild, I'm oper at that server, so when I'm kicked and I rejoin, banning is not an obstruction as well. Is it possible, that I only rejoin on one specific server (the server, that's practically mine)?
[20:26] <PriceChild> BernardB, i'm sure its possible to edit a script to only act on a certain network.
[20:27] <LjL> BernardB: tried #xchat?
[20:27] <BernardB> PriceChild, I'm not that good in scripting. In fact, I've no clue.
[20:27] <LJHarb> how easy/smooth is a dist-upgrade, and how long will the machine be down for>?
[20:27] <eek> i need some help proof reading my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:27] <BernardB> LjL, will try it
[20:27] <darkblue_B> dir /etc/alternatives has an alias to a bunch of Java stuff, built on the fresh install of Java6. The alias to the jar utility has the wrong path, with a verion number added to one of the path elements, it would be rigth.. I dont wnat to begin to muck with this though.. Where can I ask about this setup?
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: easy . yes, smooth, yes, a little time consuming but depends on bandwidth
[20:28] <ader10> DRebellion: It was not nice of you to volunteer to help me and then ignore me after not reading my question.
[20:28] <ikonia> ader10: it's a busy channel, don't take anything personally
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: A word of caution though if you have ever used automatix or to a lesser extent envy scripts to install things
[20:29] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: from dapper, should i go up one distro at a time or can i jump to a newer one?
[20:29] <LJHarb> ive never done that
[20:29] <Guildenstern> hi.. i haven't found my problems in forums/wiki. I guess it is too trivial. Do I need compiz (or another composite thing) to run cairo-dock? Actually it is running without but I have a ugly black window around the dock when an animation is in effect.
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: One at a time
[20:29] <LJHarb> i was planning on using some sort of apt command
[20:29] <Webu> Anyone about ifconfig settings? Are they reset after a reboot? What should i edit to make them permanent (i need to assign an another IP-address to eth0)?
[20:29] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: whats the command to bump to edgy?
[20:29] <LjL> !upgrade > LJHarb    (LJHarb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: use the network admin gui
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: one sec
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: that will make them perm
[20:30] <LJHarb> ah thanks LjL
[20:30] <Webu> ikonia, ouch i don't have any GUI :/
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: why ?
[20:30] <danand_> Webu - you need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file
[20:30] <Webu> Well.. It's a server :)
[20:30] <Webu> danand_, okey i'll try that, thanks!
[20:30] <ikonia> Webu: you can use a desktop version as server
[20:31] <eek> i need some help proof reading my /etc/apt/sources.list .can anyone help
[20:31] <ikonia> Webu: it will help you learn the basics
[20:31] <LjL> eek: pastebin it
[20:31] <eek> LjL :)  address for that again please
[20:31] <LjL> !paste > eek    (eek, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:31] <ikonia> eek: it's in the topic
[20:31] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: Sorry I had to get the door...  Personally, I would install fresh gutsy than go through all of that.
[20:31] <brobostigon> !pastebin | eek
[20:31] <ubotu> eek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:31] <danand_> Webu - look at man interfaces for help with that file
[20:31] <Webu> ikonia, yeah sure, i just don't have any use for a GUI in my server.
[20:32] <rpj8> Huh. Odd. Wikipedia isn't showing me any images for some reason. Anyone have any idea what that's about?
[20:32] <eek> thank you
[20:32] <brobostigon> ikonia: your systax was wrong
[20:32] <masterjail> Webu: can you repeat your question please?
[20:32] <ikonia> Webu: apart from the fact that you don't know how to run basic admin task
[20:32] <ikonia> brobostigon: what syntax ?
[20:32] <Webu> masterjail, [22:29:47] <Webu> Anyone about ifconfig settings? Are they reset after a reboot? What should i edit to make them permanent (i need to assign an another IP-address to eth0)?
[20:32] <shinoj> anyone tell me how to connect my phone nokia 6230 as modem to take net in ubuntu
[20:32] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, this is our main dev machine tho so it cant be out of commission for too long
[20:33] <rpj8> Webu: ifconfig settings aren't reset at reboot.
[20:33] <masterjail> mmm... what do you want to do is assign an static IP to your server ?
[20:33] <brobostigon> ikonia: try !pastebin | eek insted of !pastebin > eek which you used, yours wont work.
[20:33] <Weirdbeard|Work> I've written a shell program that I want to use when I'm working in the console. Is there some directory I can put it in so that I can use it like other, regular commands?
[20:33] <latinoguy> español
[20:33] <Webu> danand_, i'll do that too :) Thanks.
[20:33] <LjL> brobostigon: 1) it was me 2) it wasn't wrong
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: What about dual boot, two versions on the same pc?
[20:33] <pocketdrummer> hello everyone
[20:33] <latinoguy> cual es el canal español
[20:33] <LjL> !bot > brobostigon    (brobostigon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:33] <Webu> rpj8, hmmph okey.
[20:33] <Pici> !es | latinoguy
[20:33] <ubotu> latinoguy: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:33] <masterjail> yo soy español latinoguy :D
[20:33] <bluefox83> ok, i'm shopping for a laptop that i can put ubuntu on, and so far i think i want an HP laptop, but it has a dual core 64 bit proc, is there any reason i wouldn't be able to use stuff om ubuntu on it?
[20:33] <LJHarb> Jack_Sparrow then i'll have to re-do all our installations and settings tho, wont i?
[20:33] <Webu> ikonia, actually i know, i just haven't touched ifconfig much before.
[20:34] <latinoguy> does someone know and aplication to use as a download manager for rapidshare with premium account
[20:34] <masterjail> Webu: what do you want to do is assign an static IP to your server ?
[20:34] <danand_> !hardware | bluefox83
[20:34] <ubotu> bluefox83: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:34] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make a G7 mouse work? When I try to edit xorg.conf and restart x, the video goes into low-quality mode. I'm using the restricted nVidia drivers.
[20:34] <Webu> masterjail, assign an another IP to the same interface and make it permanent.
[20:35] <Flare183> !es > Lantinoguy
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> LJHarb: Yep, but at least you would still have the other up and running while you do it.. Just a thought
[20:35] <Webu> masterjail, just wanted to make sure how to make it permanent.
[20:35] <eek> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54911/ have a looksy thank you
[20:35] <danand_> bluefox83 - take a live CD into the shop and try before you buy :)
[20:35] <dimedo> has someone experience with building g15tools on ubuntu?
[20:35] <LjL> eek: messed up. which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:35] <bluefox83> danand_, i'm buying online
[20:36] <eek> LjL feisty
[20:36] <LJHarb> bluefox83: you can still walk into a best buy and try it
[20:36] <bluefox83> might try that >.>
[20:36] <ikonia> brobostigon: the > redirect is an accaptable redirector. and ljl was the person who sent that command not me. If you don't know what your saying - don't say it
[20:37] <ikonia> Webu: the network interface file is nothing to do with ifconfig - so don't make false excuses.
[20:37] <bbeattie> I got an itouch and am trying to connect it up to ubuntu with gtkpod.  lsusb shows the device but dmesg never reports that it's mapped it to /dev/sd? and I can never mount it. Using 7.10, any ideas? Thanks.
[20:37] <brobostigon> ikonia: that systax never worked for me, using >, and i deeply apologize,
[20:37] <LjL> eek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54912/ this should be better
[20:37] <danand_> bluefox83 - find a shop with the same model - they don't need to know your gonna go elsewhere :)
[20:38] <AlexQ> Hi. How to turn on the Laptop Monitor on Ubuntu, when I have external monitor connected (when I logged via GDM, the laptop monitor has turned off)? It's an stupid question, but how to do it?
[20:38] <eek> LjL ok
[20:38] <luoman> !list
[20:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:38] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this
[20:38] <danand_> AlexQ - what model of laptop do you have
[20:38] <AlexQ> danand_: Acer TravelMate 5710
[20:39] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> hi all I cannot connect to my wireless AP with no security enabled ...any ideas
[20:39] <eek> LjL: 20 lines right?
[20:39] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: depends what type of card are you using
[20:39] <Flare183> ?
[20:39] <crolle17> starting a process in the background like this? mongrel_rails start -e production &
[20:40] <LjL> eek: yes. i removed the part about Universe, since you had already Universe enabled in the first two lines anyway.
[20:40] <cjsoftu1> I'm trying to play an itms feed in any media player, but all I get is an error.  Anyone got any idea how to support itms:// links in Ubuntu, and which media player to use to view these?  Please note these are video files, not audio.
[20:40] <LJHarb> does the server version of ubuntu dapper not have an update manager?
[20:40] <Cpudan80> Will the default drivers for an aetheros wifi thing enter promiscuous mode?
[20:40] <danand_> AlexQ - hmm ... might have been able to help if it was a Dell. On that you just use the Fn+F8 to switch between laptop / external / laptop + external
[20:40] <eek> LjL:ok i have trouble w/ this stuff. it's called learning curve
[20:41] <LjL> eek: eh, i didn't say anything
[20:41] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: sitll there?
[20:41] <Flare183> still*
[20:41] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make a G7 mouse work? When I try to edit xorg.conf and restart x, the video goes into low-quality mode. I'm using the restricted nVidia drivers.
[20:41] <eek> LjL  i know
[20:41] <AlexQ> danand_: I've used this combination, and I muted sound :D.
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flannel, yes
[20:42] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: it's flare183
[20:42] <danand_> AlexQ - oh crap! :)
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, yes I am using ipw3945 intel
[20:42] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: but what type of card to you have? wireless or ethernet?
[20:42] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, wireless
[20:42] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: that doesn't sound like what should happen
[20:42] <rruben> HELLO
[20:43] <Flare183> !hi | rruben
[20:43] <ubotu> rruben: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:43] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: I think I have a G5 btw
[20:43] <gidna> hi
[20:43] <lamalex> Can someone help me? I am in serious dependency cell
[20:43] <gidna> How can I insert the simbol of Sum in openoffice?
[20:43] <danand_> bye rruben :)
[20:43] <zoexii> hello, this one is about to make me nuts... I have a 4G ipod mounted via usb... it shows in fstab: "/dev/sdb2 on /media/IPOD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)" the 'rw' means readable and writable yes?  when I try to copy music to the ipod or delete music from the ipod from nautilus or from commandline I get error: "cp: cannot create directory `/media/IPOD/music/The Police': Read-only file s
[20:43] <pocketdrummer> how do I reply to a specific person on this?
[20:43] <danbhfive> !tab > pocketdrummer
[20:44] <Starnestommy> pocketdrummer: like this?
[20:44] <pocketdrummer> yeah
[20:44] <Flare183> !tab | pocketdrummer
[20:44] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[20:44] <Flare183> oops
[20:44] <zoexii> pocketdrummer: type their username, then message
[20:44] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[20:44] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: that should help
[20:44] <pocketdrummer> danbhfive like this?
[20:44] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: you got me
[20:44] <Flare183> haha
[20:44] <AlexQ> Hi. How to turn on the Laptop Monitor on Ubuntu, when I have external monitor connected (when I logged via GDM, the laptop monitor has turned off)? It's an stupid question, but how to do it?
[20:44] <pocketdrummer> I feel retarded, lol.
[20:45] <Flare183> AlexQ: use your function buttons on the laptop
[20:45] <masterjail> hello... could anyone help me with XDMCP ??
[20:45] <Wibble-> howdy :) Is there any way to remove the window decorations on one window only? I want my VNC to work similar to Window's remote desktop - when its full screen it shouldn't have a title bar so it can *really* be full screen.  I'm happy to use a key combination to get the title bar back
[20:45] <danbhfive> pocketdrummer: this is the website I used, but of course, its for a G5: http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux
[20:45] <white_eagle> !screenlets
[20:45] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[20:46] <danand_> zoexii - try adding the option user to the fstab entry for your ipod
[20:46] <AlexQ> Flare183: It didn't work...
[20:46] <danbhfive> Wibble-: is this firefox?
[20:46] <pocketdrummer> danbhfave It should be close, the only real difference is that it's wireless :D
[20:46] <Flare183> AlexQ: you have to press it more than once
[20:46] <Wibble-> danbhfive: No - vncviewer
[20:46] <cjsoftu1> Anyone, any ideas about ITMS feeds...?
[20:47] <Codemaster> question: if I edit my /etc/sudoers file, do i have to restart the machine or anything like that for it to take effect?
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: nope never heard of it
[20:47] <ader10> I would like to change the icon for the psd mime type. How?
[20:47] <Flare183> Codemaster: yeah but I wouldn't do that
[20:47] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: it's the ITunes Music Store feed
[20:47] <danand_> zoexii - ie user,rw,nosuid,nodev,short.... etc
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: nope can't be done then
[20:47] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: it must be a rss or atom feed
[20:47] <eek> so i adjusted my repositories to univers & multiverse to try and apt-get xmms-mp4 but i get a Err Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'  Any ideas?
[20:47] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: It's a simple XML feed
[20:48] <danbhfive> Wibble-: I remember tightvnc had a java based viewer, so if that happens to be the vnc you are using, then use firefox, and hit F+11.   Thats the only suggestion I got
[20:48] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: Just it's not ATOM/RSS compliant
[20:48] <Wibble-> Flare183: Why do you have to erstart the machine to pick up a change to sudoers?
[20:48] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: it's the protical that your using
[20:48] <danand_> eek - server down?
[20:48] <ikonia> Wibble-: no
[20:48] <Wibble-> danbhfive: Ok - I'll look in to that
[20:48] <AlexQ> Flare183: It's still not working...
[20:48] <lamalex> please? my system is completely b0rked. apt-get -f install is failing
[20:48] <Flare183> AlexQ: beats me then
[20:48] <Rcd> whats mean etc?
[20:48] <Flare183> ikonia: oh really ok
[20:48] <eek> danand_:  I didn't ping it.  would this be the right add us.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:49] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: I can load it using http, and it works, just it's an a "proprietary" format as such
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, the card is identified
[20:49] <ikonia> Flare183: sudoers is dynamic
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> I can connect at work to WEP
[20:49] <eek> its working
[20:49] <AlexQ> Flare183: But what with the software-based change?
[20:49] <zoexii> danand_: so, I should copy the entry that I get by typing 'mount', then add 'user' to the options, then paste that entry permanently into /etc/fstab ?
[20:49] <danand_> eek - just pinged it myself - its working ok
[20:49] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> but I can not connect to OPEN access points
[20:49]  * Flare183 says too many people at once
[20:49] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: I can't help...
[20:49] <Rcd> Who loves piter pen?
[20:50] <Flare183> AlexQ: i don't know
[20:50] <Flare183> !offtopic > Rcd
[20:50] <cjsoftu1> Flare183: OK, thanks anyway
[20:50] <Flare183> cjsoftu1: no problem
[20:50] <AlexQ> Flare183: OK, thanks anyway ;) xD.
[20:50] <Rcd> Flare183,  Piter pen is new linux distr
[20:50] <enzo> i'd like to modify /etc/resolv.conf, but it's said in this file to not edit directly, so how can i modify it ?
[20:50] <Flare183> Rcd: but you do't not here
[20:50] <Flare183> netsplit
[20:51] <Flare183> floodbot went nuts
[20:51] <Rcd> FSF
[20:51] <Flare183> Seveas: dude what happened?
[20:51] <zoexii> ??
[20:51] <ikonia> Rcd: what do you actually want ?
[20:51] <Seveas> Flare183, DCC attack
[20:51] <tts> i just got offerd a fil
[20:51] <tts> e
[20:51] <zoexii> tts: me too
[20:51] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: well I don't erally know but try modprobe (the card name)
[20:51] <Seveas> tts, ignore that, it's an attempt to make you disconnect
[20:51] <Flare183> Seveas: ah
[20:52] <Rcd> ikonia,  piter pen a new linux distr
[20:52] <tts> ok
[20:52] <danand_> zoexii - you can try that - just add the option noauto as well - otherwise ubuntu will try to mount it each time you boot. Just one thing first though - can you write to the device as root?
[20:52] <laylaaaaaaaaaaa> Flare183, I tried unloading and loading the card moule
[20:52] <ikonia> Rcd: this is ubuntu support - for ubuntu support questions only. Please stick to that topic in this channel
[20:52] <zoexii> danand_: yeah I tried that from command line,
[20:52] <pocketdrummer> How do I know if xserver-xorg-input-evdev is installed?
[20:52] <zoexii> same error
[20:52] <Flare183> laylaaaaaaaaaaa: umm try to modprobe ipw whatever
[20:52] <Rcd> ikonia,  ok what of ubuntu version u like? :D
[20:53] <ikonia> Rcd: this is a support channel, not a chat channel. ubuntu-chatter is #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:53] <Flare183> !offtopic > Rcd (sorry get use to it)
[20:53] <Rcd> ikonia,  ok can i help u with ubuntu? :D
[20:53] <eek> danand_:  LjL:   Thank you!  go day to you both
[20:53] <ader10> I would like to change the icon for the psd mime type. How?
[20:54] <ikonia> Rcd: repond to questions if you can help
[20:54] <eek> good
[20:54] <Flare183> ikonia: just kick him or something
[20:54] <Flare183> ikonia: no offense
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> LOL, check this out: http://vanduska.com/computers/bill-gates-secret-message/
[20:54] <ikonia> non-taken
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Bill gates secret messag
[20:54] <danand_> zoexii - the user option may not help then - try using the mount command from the command line first to see if that "user" option helps
[20:54] <Flare183> !spam > WeedGrinch
[20:54] <Flare183> WeedGrinch: quit the crap
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Uhm its not spam
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Its not spam
[20:54] <Seveas> !ot | WeedGrinch
[20:54] <zoexii> danand_: ok, will try
[20:54] <ubotu> WeedGrinch: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:54] <LjL> !ot | WeedGrinch
[20:54] <Flare183> WeedGrinch: this is support not chat bull crap
[20:54] <WeedGrinch> Fuck you
[20:55] <ikonia> Flare183: tone it down
[20:55] <Flare183> ikonia: ok
[20:55] <gub> hahaha
[20:55] <latinoguy> help with rapídshare with premium account and ubuntu??
[20:55] <ikonia> Flare183: it gets like this - just ride it out
[20:55] <Flare183> ikonia: gotcha will do
[20:55] <latinoguy> i need some program to download
[20:55] <brobostigon> latinoguy: what is rapidshare??
[20:56] <uKKeMan> lol
[20:56] <ikonia> uKKeMan: what ?
[20:56] <latinoguy> is a site where you can upload or download files
[20:56] <latinoguy> is a hosting file service
[20:56] <ikonia> !offtopic > latinoguy
[20:56] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this
[20:56] <latinoguy> www.rapidshare.com
[20:56] <brobostigon> latinoguy: have you tried wget
[20:56] <ikonia> latinoguy: please stop
[20:57] <latinoguy> what is the problem ikonia???
[20:57] <danand_> amitprakash - dont boot with a cd in the tray :))
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: this is not an ubuntu issue
[20:58] <PriitM> hi, which command should I use when I would like to restart sound server?
[20:58] <latinoguy> you dont help ?? only to say stop??
[20:58] <latinoguy> why??
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: posting links to file hosts is not apporpriate
[20:58] <xGeek> haha
[20:58] <durex_a> Bulgaria ?
[20:58] <amitprakash> danand_, right.. but whats causing the issue
[20:58] <danand_> amitprakash - sorry - i couldn't resist :)
[20:58] <latinoguy> then what it is??
[20:58] <latinoguy> and ubuntu issue??
[20:58] <danand_> amitprakash - not sure - wierd one
[20:58] <latinoguy> can you explain me??
[20:58] <syntaxerror55> Does the live CD boot up always take this long? it stalls ay 7% "Starting Linux Kernel", the CD tray light thing isn't orange, and the computer isn't making any noise.
[20:58] <ikonia> latinoguy: this channel is for support of the ubuntu operating system only
[20:58] <latinoguy> plaease just ignorme
[20:58] <latinoguy> be happy
[20:59] <amitprakash> syntaxerror55, its weird if comp makes noise
[20:59] <xGeek> inappropriate is such a strange word to hear on irc
[20:59] <amitprakash> hi.. whenever i reboot with a cd in the cd tray.. ubuntu shows two copies of mount on desktop of the cdrom. how do i fix this??
[20:59] <LjL> latinoguy: and you, please stick to the channel's topic
[20:59] <xGeek> how can anything be strange on this here series of tubes? :)
[20:59] <latinoguy> cmon
[20:59] <syntaxerror55> amitprakash: Oh, I'd think so.
[20:59] <latinoguy> what is happening with this comunity
[21:00] <mranostay_work> any clue what is causing this?
[21:00] <mranostay_work> Setting up tzdata (2007k-0ubuntu0.7.10) ...
[21:00] <mranostay_work> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure):
[21:00] <mranostay_work>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[21:00] <mranostay_work> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:00] <mranostay_work>  tzdata
[21:00] <FloodBot2> mranostay_work: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <epifanio> hi anyone had experience on how to enable wiriles on a ibook-g4 ?
[21:01] <epifanio> i'm running ubuntu7.10-ppc
[21:01] <jeisma> does anyone now hwy all my drop down menus will start freakin out before i can choose something from it?
[21:01] <jeisma> as in, it'll just start blinking before it drops down
[21:01] <dusty_> Bad configuration, hardware errors, wrong freqencies.
[21:01] <dusty_> loads of shit
[21:01] <Flare183> brb
[21:01] <jeisma> any idea how to begin fixing it?
[21:01] <DRebellion> !language | dusty_
[21:01] <ubotu> dusty_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:01] <Flare183> !lanague
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanague - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <Flare183> oops
[21:02] <jeisma> cause it wasn't like it yesterday
[21:02] <TommyJ> !chii
[21:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chii - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:02] <TommyJ> where can i get chii ?
[21:02] <DRebellion> Flare183: noisy away messages aren't needed. use /away instead.
[21:02] <jeisma> where can i go to change my scheme?
[21:02] <jeisma> my overall scheme
[21:02] <jeisma> login, desktop, windows, etc
[21:02] <jeisma> i mean download a new one
[21:03] <DRebellion> !theme | jeisma
[21:03] <ubotu> jeisma: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:03] <jeisma> thanks DRebellion
[21:04] <danand_> why has http://www.ubuntu-art.org/ been left out of the theme list??
[21:05] <Guildenstern> what should I prefer? the radeon driver or fglrx ?
[21:05] <ikonia> Guildenstern: really depends on support for you card
[21:05] <hyper_ch> hiho, I wonder if I use a keyfile for dm_crypt/luks is there something I should worry about? minimal filesize or something?
[21:05] <DRebellion> danand_: it's probably just been forgotten. make a request to add it.
[21:05] <Guildenstern> both support my card
[21:06] <danand_> DRebellion - err how do you do that??
[21:06] <Guildenstern> however the i must buld the fglrx from source for aiglx
[21:06] <Guildenstern> build
[21:06] <DRebellion> !bot > danand_ (read the pm from ubotu)
[21:07] <JvA> Is there some way to completly remove Compiz from Ubuntu 7.10 or turn it off? With Kubuntu I got 8000 fps with glxgears, but now in Ubuntu with Compiz "almost" turned off I get 6000.
[21:07] <JvA> How do I make it completly turned off?
[21:07] <ikonia> JvA: disable "desktop effects"
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, did that. And then I got 6000 fps instead of 3000.
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, still 2000 fps too slow.
[21:08] <ikonia> JvA: ati card ?
[21:08] <JvA> ikonia, NVIDIA 8600GT
[21:08] <stroyan> JvA:  What are you going to do with that last 2000 fps?  Hang it on the wall? ;-)
[21:08] <DRebellion> JvA: 6000 fps is 100 frames per second (isn't that fast enough)?
[21:08] <ikonia> oooh really, not sure how the support for the 8600 is to be honest
[21:09] <epifanio> i followed these guide, but at step : sudo make install ; i get the these error : : /usr/sbin/athenable: Command not found
[21:09] <epifanio> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[21:09] <proppi> DRebellion: 6000fps is 6000 frames per second
[21:09] <JvA> straterra and DRebellion: The thing is that when I move a window I notice that it renders much more badly then with Kubuntu. When I play movies fast, the same problem. Compiz is crap for video quality :/
[21:09] <DRebellion> proppi: aww crap, i'm converting from frames per minute :/ too much maths revision...
[21:09] <JvA> ikonia, the support is good in the nivida-glx-new driver at least.
[21:10] <jeisma> What are some tips to free up memory on kubuntu?
[21:10] <proppi> heh, i figured ;P
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: not that good, your not getting the frame rates you want
[21:10] <proppi> well
[21:10] <proppi> ubuntu and kubuntu is still kde vs. gnome
[21:10] <JvA> The thing is that I clearly see rectanglemarks on the screen. Like, if I watch a fast action movie I see the picture being drawn.
[21:10] <lamalex> gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: gconftool-2: undefined symbol: g_option_context_new
[21:10] <JvA> I did not have that problem on Gentoo.
[21:10] <lamalex> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[21:10] <JvA> So I want Compiz gone...
[21:10] <proppi> one window manager might use more resources than the other
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: I've never used an 8600 so don't know if thats normal
[21:10] <lamalex> I keep getting that error, I can't install anything at all
[21:10] <ikonia> JvA: disabling it makes it "gone"
[21:11] <lamalex> or upgrade, or fix this dependcy hell im in
[21:11] <JvA> ikonia, but it doesn't :/
[21:11] <proppi> kde might give you 8000fps just because its kde and not gnome
[21:11] <ikonia> JvA: how do you know it's compiz
[21:11] <DRebellion> !enter | lamalex
[21:11] <ubotu> lamalex: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:11] <JvA> proppi, but what does Gnome do to just rob me of 2000 fps? It seems rather weird.
[21:11] <lamalex> DRebellion: that was middle clicks fault
[21:11] <ikonia> JvA: I agree
[21:12] <ikonia> JvA: nothing that points at compiz obviously though
[21:12] <lamalex> I think irssi interprets \n as a <return>
[21:12] <proppi> jva. well, gnome has some built in transparency and perhaps some other bloat that kde doesn't or kde did better (dont know how, kde is bloatheaven)
[21:12] <DRebellion> lamalex: i think unix interprets \n as a <return>
[21:12] <JvA> proppi, can the transparency be turned off?
[21:12] <ikonia> JvA: thats part of meta city
[21:12] <proppi> jva: im thinking of transparency for the panels and terminals and such, metacity
[21:13] <ikonia> JvA: does ps -ef | grep compiz show it as running
[21:13] <meuserj> ikonia: metacity has no actual transparency...
[21:13] <meuserj> just pseudo transparency by putting on an image
[21:13] <JvA> ikonia, nope
[21:13] <kadakas> does anyone know how to restore stuff made with Simple Backup ?
[21:13] <lamalex> DRebellion: yes
[21:13] <pinsmack> i don't know if this is the place but when i play songs on amarok  they won't scrobble on last.fm. even though i signed in and everything. help please.
[21:13] <cr4z3d`> what's the best chat program that supports webcam?
[21:13] <proppi> jva: if you get a empty X up and running with terminal and direct rendering, what fps do you get?
[21:13] <ikonia> JvA: good good, at least it's not running
[21:13] <DRebellion> !best | cr4z3d`
[21:14] <JvA> proppi, I'll try that.
[21:14] <ubotu> cr4z3d`: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:14] <JvA> brb
[21:14] <brobostigon> cr4z3d`: amsn is one option
[21:14] <CrabMan2020> hey guys
[21:14] <strabes> is it possible to make openoffice autocorrect when there's only one spelling suggestion?
[21:14] <CrabMan2020> i need some help
[21:14] <cr4z3d`> brobostigon, any others? i think i used amsn once and it just looked weird on my desktop
[21:15] <brobostigon> cr4z3d`: amsn is the only one i know of
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> i just installed the nvidia drivers for my nvidia card (there are no restricteds for my card) and it worked fine till i restared
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> now my reso is off and all
[21:15] <proppi> strabes: i think autocorrection is another function than the dictionary itself, its coded into the autocorrection table
[21:15] <tts> how can i creat a  link to my fil systm
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> it told me that im not running the nvidia driver so i ran the nvidia-config command and restarted X
[21:15] <CrabMan2020> it worked but
[21:15] <HankDogDaddy> Hey guys, does anyone know how to view the assembly language from compiled c programs using gcc?
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> now i cant set ubuntu to my native reso
[21:16] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: it's compiled - you can't read it
[21:16] <proppi> !enter | CrabMan2020
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> i think the screen is set as failsafe screen or something
[21:16] <ubotu> CrabMan2020: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> ok
[21:16] <CrabMan2020> sorry :P
[21:16] <strabes> proppi: yeah, that's my problem. A lot of times I make a one-letter typo and the correct spelling is obvious. When I right click on the word, there's only one spelling suggestion. I just want to know if there's a way to make openoffice just go ahead and change it when there's only 1 suggestion anyway.
[21:17] <strabes> automatically
[21:17] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do?
[21:17] <ouellettesr> does anyone know how to backup a mysql database?
[21:17] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: Maybe I have a problem with understanding what compilers do... What step does a c program get 'translated' per say, into assembly?
[21:17] <CrabMan2020> where is my xorg file?
[21:17] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: at compilation
[21:17] <danand_> Crab
[21:17] <danand_> oops
[21:17] <cr4z3d`> CrabMan2020, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:17] <CromhDearg> Hi folks
[21:17] <ouellettesr> CrabMan2020, /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[21:18] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: So... how would one view that?
[21:18] <ouellettesr> ;p
[21:18] <danand_> thats it!
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: view what ?
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: you can only view the code before it's compiled
[21:18] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do? Try to re-install?
[21:18] <ouellettesr> danand_, that worked form me earlier thanks
[21:18] <HankDogDaddy> ikonia: I want to view the assembly language itself
[21:18] <hunter> guys can anyone tell me what is the codec needed for playing songs from this site http://www.coolmusiczone.com/ pls
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: you can't
[21:18] <ikonia> HankDogDaddy: it's compiled
[21:18] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: google around for disassembler or disassembly
[21:18] <DRebellion> ikonia: i think you _can_ view the assembly language of an executable...
[21:18] <pinsmack> ...anyone?
[21:18] <danand_> ouellettesr - nice one! no problem
[21:19] <brobostigon> ikonia: is it possible to decompile a prog??
[21:19] <ouellettesr> does any one have an expierence with moving mysql databases?
[21:19] <nemilar> ouellettesr: I do
[21:19] <ikonia> brobostigon: not really (technically - yes)
[21:19] <nemilar> it's just so much fun! NOT.
[21:19] <proppi> its is possible to view the machine code which is actually assembly code
[21:19] <borgista> ouellettesr: Maybe try the mysql room?
[21:19] <proppi> using a disassembler on a c program will give you the assembly code
[21:19] <ouellettesr> nemilar, i am trying to move my database from one webserver to another, im using cpanel
[21:20] <proppi> so you cannot decompile it per se but you can read the code in the program
[21:20] <CromhDearg> nautilus is popping up at login how can i stop it?
[21:20] <AlexQ> Evince crashes when I want to print PDF, but the PDF-reading and printing other files works correctly... What I have to do? Try to re-install?
[21:20] <HankDogDaddy> proppi: Hmm, any known dissambley programs for ubuntu?
[21:20] <HankDogDaddy> proppi: that would be in the repos maybe
[21:20] <proppi> some disassemblers is available for i.e. java to take the machine code into assembly and back upto java code.
[21:20] <LjL> ikonia, brobostigon: i thought there was a decompiler in the repos, but i either imagined it, or it's been removed. anyway, it's pretty clear you can never get back the original source (with meaningful variable names and loop structures, etc), the best a decompiler would give you is some correct, but unintelligible, C code
[21:21] <ikonia> LjL: exactly - technically you can, in reality not really
[21:21] <HankDogDaddy> LjL: right, but we are looking for the assembly code, not the c code
[21:21] <LjL> HankDogDaddy: then it's not a decompiler, but a disassembler. different thing.
[21:22] <HankDogDaddy> LjL: gotcha
[21:22] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: gdb iirc
[21:22] <LjL> brobostigon, etc: this is the one i had in mind - http://boomerang.sourceforge.net/
[21:23] <hunter> guys can anyone tell me what is the codec needed for playing songs from this site http://www.coolmusiczone.com/ pls
[21:24] <proppi> HankDogDaddy: take a look at this paper http://www.milw0rm.com/papers/47
[21:27] <cr4z3d`> i seem to be having a lot of packet loss using ipw3945 and network manager on a WPA network but if i turn off encryption everything seems to work fine. is there a better driver i should be using for WPA?
[21:27] <dhude> my monitor isn't listed on ubuntu... how to make someone put it there?
[21:27] <tomd> if I am properly using alsa I should be able to play two files at once, right?
[21:28] <DRebellion> dhude: submit a bug?
[21:28] <dhude> DRebellion: how?
[21:29] <DRebellion> !bug | dhude
[21:29] <ubotu> dhude: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[21:29] <IdleOne> dhude, does your monitor work with ubuntu?
[21:30] <dhude> yes it does, IdleOne
[21:30] <DRebellion> hunter: works here if you select standalone player and have mozilla-mplayer installed
[21:30] <dhude> it just doesn't get the desired ideal resolution
[21:30] <IdleOne> dhude, then it is not a bug but an omiison in supported hardware list
[21:30] <bastid_raZor> is it true that Transmission will be the default torrent application for 8.04?
[21:30] <IdleOne> !fixres | dhude
[21:30] <ubotu> dhude: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:31] <randunel> hi. i just installed ati drivers for my new ati video card. i followed the guide provided by cchtml thoroughly, but i get an error not mentioned in their guide (after the installation), as well as a "white screen" after login. Anyone able to assist me?
[21:31] <dhude> yeah, IdleOne, tried all that, nothing works
[21:31] <IdleOne> dhude, well then file a bug :)
[21:31] <bobbo> can someone help me with the problem i posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688659
[21:32] <Bethesda> Good evening all.
[21:32] <m1r> eve
[21:32] <IdleOne> evening
[21:33] <randunel> maybe this will help anyone who might want to assist me, the error in the logs is: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error -1023
[21:33] <randunel> one of the errors
[21:33] <randunel> :)
[21:33] <IdleOne> I have a acer s290 gutsy installs fine as far as I can tell except for the fact that I cannot get internet working. any ideas
[21:34] <Bethesda> Hmm, that is weird, what internet mode does it say it's on IdleOne?
[21:34] <IdleOne> !ati | randunel
[21:34] <DRebellion> IdleOne: can you explain in great detail exactly what your setup is, what you have tried, what happens when you try, and any error messages
[21:34] <ubotu> randunel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:34] <bobbo> anyone able to help with my WD MyBook RAID drive?
[21:34] <m1r> randunel: what vga ?
[21:34] <tomd> IdleOne: what kind of nic?
[21:34] <randunel> mlr: ati radeon x1950pro
[21:35] <stroyan> bobbo:  Does 'cat /proc/partitions' show any indication that the drive was added?
[21:35] <bahman> Hello everybody
[21:35] <m1r> randunel: raestricetd drivers or follow link above
[21:35] <IdleOne> Bethesda, DRebellion  I have tried everything, DHCP/Static ip roam enabled and disabled. it just does not work and I dont know what else to do . internet does not work with live cd either
[21:36] <IdleOne> tomd, onboard SiS gigabit something or other
[21:36] <randunel> IdleOne and mlr, there is a better guide (up-to-date) for the *new* ati driver (8.1 catalyst) at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.1_Driver_Manually
[21:36] <bahman> How could I find the "synaptic package manager" downloaded packages?!
[21:36] <IdleOne> dont know exact model name ATM
[21:36] <bobbo> stroyan: i think ive found it, its just showing up with the wrong numver of partitions
[21:36] <tomd> IdleOne: sounds like a nasty card
[21:36] <tomd> IdleOne: is the module loaded?
[21:36] <randunel> mlr, the link provided is for an *outdated* driver !!
[21:37] <IdleOne> tomd, I am on windows right now but I do not believe module was loading, I may be wrong .
[21:37] <Bethesda> IdleOne, do you have any connection at all? ( behind your PC )
[21:37] <sunseeker888_> hi guys, is there something similar to notepad, i could install?
[21:37] <cybo> need help. new to linux, ubuntu and to computers. wireless won't work. can anyone help?
[21:37] <tomd> IdleOne: well, you're going to have to check that before you proceed fixing it
[21:37] <IdleOne> Bethesda, I can ping internal ip but not router ip
[21:37] <Pirate_Hunter> what would openshh be useful for?
[21:37] <LjL> sunseeker888_: ... gedit?
[21:38] <DRebellion> sunseeker888_: you already have gedit   applications -> accessories -> text editor
[21:38] <tomd> IdleOne: if you can ping, you might just be using lo
[21:38] <bahman> Synaptic package manager download packager in which directory?!
[21:38] <brobostigon> cybo: first, calm down.
[21:38] <DRebellion> bahman: what did you install?
[21:38] <sunseeker888_> Thanks, still learning
[21:38] <brobostigon> cybo: then calming describe the rpoblem
[21:38] <cr4z3d`> is there a way to disable desktop effects when using battery power?
[21:38] <bahman> DRebellion Its different?!
[21:38] <IdleOne> tomd, seems so. I also have a realtek nic in the machine that worked fine before on my older machine but not anymore
[21:39] <DRebellion> !equivalents > sunseeker888_ (read the pm from ubotu - may interest you)
[21:39] <bahman> I install lots of things!
[21:39] <tapoxi> Hi all, is there any way to prevent X from starting when you're installing from the desktop CD? I need to install a driver before X boots for the first time, otherwise I get an unreadable resolution
[21:39] <DRebellion> bahman: i am confused as to what you are trying to achieve.
[21:39] <Bethesda> Did anyone notice the nautilus errors on 8.04 by the way? Any way I can bypass that at the moment?
[21:40] <HankDogDaddy> is there any advantage to compiling your own programs from source as opposed to using the repos?
[21:40] <sunseeker888> Cheers DRebbellion
[21:40] <m1r> Bethesda: #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, no as a matter of fact it might be worse
[21:40] <bahman> DRebellion I install lots of things! infact I wanna to know APTonCD create a backup from which directory?!
[21:40] <randunel> Allright, let me rephrase my problem. I succeeded in following the steps from an installer guide, yet I get an unusual error (in the error logs), also getting a white screen (white cube) after logging in. The error(s): fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error -1023; fglrx(0): cannot init AGP; fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
[21:40] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, packages in the repos may not be latest and greatest but they work
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I gotcha, its just, compiling from source is really the only 'universal' way to install things on linux
[21:41] <m1r> randunel: sry mm8, off my league
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I was kind of wondering if it would be a valuable skill to learn
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: Do you run livecd ok?
[21:41] <HankDogDaddy> IdleOne: I've done it following instructions for a couple different applications
[21:41] <randunel> mlr, ok, thank you at least for taking interest :)
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion ex. I download and also install Kalzium in Ubuntu, in which directory could I found the downloaded package of Kalzium?!
[21:42] <IdleOne> HankDogDaddy, well if you insist. install in /opt. always good to know how to compile I guess. most major distros provide packages pre-configured for the OS
[21:42] <DRebellion> bahman: are you talking about the .deb file ?
[21:42] <Bethesda> By the way MLR, thanks for that link.
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion Yeah
[21:42] <bahman> DRebellion :D
[21:43] <DRebellion> bahman: could have just said so...
[21:43] <randunel> mlr, can you alt least help me with a forum where I might find someone to assist me? :)
[21:43] <DRebellion> bahman: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:43] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: No, I need to install my ATI FireGL driver first, then wait for X to try and start again. It's just a hassle typing when I can't see, and I'd prefer X not try until I type startx
[21:44] <bahman> DRebellion .deb file which downloaded with the "synaptic package manager" in Gnome desktop environment of Ubuntu
[21:44] <bahman> DRebellion let me see
[21:44] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: once installed, it runs fine. I'm on the livecd now
[21:44] <m1r> randueđ
[21:44] <m1r> randunel: ubuntu.com?
[21:45] <randunel> mlr lol ok. ty.
[21:45] <bahman> DRebellion Really thanks :*
[21:45] <lufis> I'm trying to compile a vanilla kernel. I make two deb packages, one for headers and one for the kernel itself, and it installs the script in the deb's that adds the new kernel to the grub menu. But it's not actually being added to grub. What's up with that?
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi:I doubt you are going to get that driver in place that way from live cd
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: You can however, force it to vesa mode, then once installed get the driver in place.  How did you get into live?
[21:46] <Flare183> How do i convert a ogg movie to a  AVI, MPEG, Quicktime, Real, and Windows Media file?
[21:46] <dusty_> how do you strectch the gnome panel across dual screen setups?
[21:46] <DRebellion> Flare183: i recommend mencoder
[21:46] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: I installed the driver while running the livecd, it's running the propreitary firegl driver now. It does work, I just want to disable X until I give it the cue to start.
[21:46] <Flare183> DRebellion: ok
[21:47] <stroyan> lufis:  You installed the kernel image with  dpkg -i ??  Do you have more than one bootable disk, so grub may be looking at a different menu.lst than the install?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead > dusty_
[21:47] <lufis> stroyan: nope, only one disc... and yes, dpkg -i
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tapoxi: I have no idea on how to do that.
[21:47] <tapoxi> Jack_Sparrow: Oh well, thanks
[21:47] <josh> Flash still broken I take it
[21:47] <Hemebond> Morning all. My sound is still poked after yesterdays updates. I've spent hours trying to find a fix. Apparently there was a patch submitted years ago.
[21:48] <lufis> stroyan: i would add it manually to the grub menu but i'm afraid i don't know enough about boot options etc. to do that
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> josh: Easy enough to install manually for people that insist on having it.
[21:48] <Sukta> I'll deal without
[21:48] <dusty_> Jack_Sparrow, I have dual monitor setup working.  I just want the gnome panels stretched across the two monitors rather than being on the one. Looking at the link you gave me doesn't answer my question ?
[21:48] <Sukta> i just go tthe system ruinning again
[21:48] <Bulwinkle> are there any tricks and/or tips for compiling banshee from svn on 7.10?
[21:48] <wil_> im still trying the basics :S.... I am trying a app that is for linux, do I got for the tar or rpm?
[21:49] <Sonja> i'm in a live session. how do i mount teh hard drive called /dev/sdc so i can get files from it?
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dusty_: the only other link I know of is for twinview
[21:49] <DRebellion> Bulwinkle: my tip: don't. just install from repos.
[21:49] <dusty_> hmm
[21:49] <Bulwinkle> Sonja: sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:49] <stroyan> lufis:  You could copy an existing line in menu.lst and change it to point to your new kernel.  But it really should have just worked.  Perhaps 'sudo update-grub' will add it.
[21:49] <tapoxi> Is there any boot flag to disable X on the desktop cD?
[21:49] <tapoxi> *CD
[21:50] <tts> how can i check if my nfs is exporting
[21:50] <tts> ?
[21:50] <Bulwinkle> DRebellion: but there is all kinds of new stuff not in the repo :)
[21:50] <Sonja> Bulwinkle: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:50] <Sonja> mount: mount point /media/partition does not exist
[21:50] <jetscreamer> tapoxi: single would work, then you could disable gdm amybe
[21:50] <jetscreamer> /media/whateveryouchoose
[21:50] <Bulwinkle> Sonja: sudo mkdir /media/partition
[21:50] <Sonja> ok
[21:50] <varitech> bonsoir
[21:51] <Sonja> Bulwinkle: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdcX /media/partition
[21:51] <Sonja> mount: special device /dev/sdcX does not exist
[21:51] <DRebellion> !fr | varitech
[21:51] <ubotu> varitech: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: X = Should be equal to a partition number
[21:52] <lufis> stroyan: let's see...
[21:52] <Sonja> what if that hard drive only has 1 partition
[21:52] <Sonja> then zero?
[21:52] <DRebellion> Sonja: no, 1
[21:53] <aldaek> so is apparmor new to 7.10?
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: Worked! :)
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: Thanks
[21:53] <stroyan> lufis:  good.  But still mysterious...
[21:53] <lufis> stroyan: could be because i'm running hardy, bugs and all
[21:54] <Bulwinkle> i'm running ubuntu 7.10 from a usb drive I installed as described here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/  for some reason it isn't allowing me to add the restricted drivers for my nvidia card
[21:54] <andrisp> hello, i have ubuntu desktop with two virtual desktops. often when i open program in left desktop, its window is so large that some pixels goes into right desktop. why is that and how can i avoid that ?
[21:54] <Robbster> andrisp: you have dual head?
[21:54] <johnficc1> hi can I install on a system with only 128mb of ram?
[21:55] <IdleOne> !xubuntu | johnficc1
[21:55] <ubotu> johnficc1: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[21:55] <brobostigon> johnficc1: alternate cd
[21:55] <alexh> hi need help with frames with java on ubuntu 710,amd64
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[21:55] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:55] <andrisp> Robbster: no, just to virtual desktops (i hope that the right name for this) and one screen
[21:55] <Robbster> Sound Problem: Lenovo Z61m and 7.10. Solved with backported kernel (2.6.22-14), but that kernel breaks WIFI.
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> My computer hangs on "screensaver" in flux, but i don't run a screensaver
[21:55] <tts> what log do i look in to see if nfs is working ok ?
[21:56] <Ax-Ax> In xfce it doesnt hang ;S
[21:56] <Indiadev_Techie>  johnficc1: u can install using abuntu alternate cd..... n assigning during 1 - 2gb swap partition... for the system.....
[21:56] <Ax-Ax> What can it depend on?
[21:57] <sunseeker888> HI guys, is there a way to check my download speed connection? I have a 10MBits download
[21:57] <wil_> im still trying the basics :S.... I am trying a app that is for linux, do I got for the tar or rpm?
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tar
[21:57] <Robbster> johnficc1: you can, but it won't be pleasent. look at some of the minimal window managers - full gnome may be too heavy
[21:57] <whitman> wil_, what's the app? Chances are it might be in a repository
[21:58] <Webu> sunseeker888, try http://www.speedtest.net/
[21:58] <Webu> sunseeker888, there's a lot of different servers to test your connection with :)
[21:58] <wil_> vmware player
[21:58] <wil_> i am just fed up, using a old version of ubuntu and the repositorys are not working, and I am having trouble installing apps :(
[21:58] <johnficc1> Robbster: thanks
[21:58] <sunseeker888> Thanks webu
[21:58] <brobostigon> webu: an y that work, without the need for flash or java??
[21:58] <LjL> wil_: which version?
[21:59] <wil_> waiting for the shipit stuff.... I have waisted 3 cds trying to get it installed :( so I am going to try and do it in a VM
[21:59] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: my dear, ubuntu has its own sets of application with .dev extension....
[21:59] <wil_> im using ubuntu 5.10
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> johnficc1: did you see the link on minimal..?
[21:59] <deadlyallance737> anybody ever have much luck running ubuntu on a tablet?
[21:59] <Webu> brobostigon, sorry i didn't understand that properly :/
[21:59] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: sorry, my dear, ubuntu has its own sets of application with .deb (debian) extension....
[21:59] <wil_> I want the latest version, but I just cant upgrade :(
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[21:59] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[21:59] <johnficc1> Jack_Sparrow: no
[21:59] <johnficc1> what link
[21:59] <LjL> wil_: the repositories aren't working because that version is at end-of-life
[21:59] <LjL> wil_: why can't you upgrade?
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> johnficc1: Scroll back...  see !minimal
[22:00] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: what version r u usin.....
[22:00] <Robbster> deadlyallance737: apparently there is some success with tablet - but I guess it depends on which tablet and how much time you have .
[22:00] <brobostigon> webu: a connection speed test, but my machine has no jave, and no flash??
[22:00] <LjL> Indiadev_Techie, wil_ is on Breezy
[22:00] <wil_> I have created 3 iso cds with diffrent burners on diffrent pcs, and every time, it boots to the menu, but when I choose a option, it just says boot error or something and restarts :(
[22:00] <wil_> I have tried on diffrent pcs, so there is some sort of error here
[22:00] <Robbster> deadlyallance737:  from what I've heard, setting up X with the tablet should JustWork(tm)
[22:00] <Webu> brobostigon, try to download larger files from a good location.
[22:00] <wil_> I just did the ship it thing and I am hoping it will come soon
[22:01] <brobostigon> webu: ok,thanks
[22:01] <Robbster> wil_: did you verigy the iso's before you burned them?
[22:01] <wil_> I just want to try the latest version + wine to see if I can use ubuntu instead of windows for my business :( just having so many problems :(
[22:01] <LjL> wil_, have you tried a different *cd drive*? i.e. not the burner, the drive you use to boot it up
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wil_: Did you check the md5 on the file you are burning
[22:01] <deadlyallance737> robbster looking to get a hp tx1000z its a 2.1 amd x2 64 bit with the nividea go 6150
[22:01] <wil_> what do you mean by verify? I did a simulation before burn, and did a check and all the files are there
[22:01] <LjL> !verify | wil_, means this
[22:01] <ubotu> wil_, means this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:01] <Robbster> deadlyallance737: I'm the wrong person to ask - try posting to the ubuntu forumns?
[22:02] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: u will get those cds may be within this month... depending opon ur region.....
[22:02] <wil_> I dont know how to do md5... but I have downloaded twice on diffrent pcs and burnt three times, but I get the error each time
[22:02] <deadlyallance737> robster ok thanks dude
[22:02] <Webu> brobostigon, it depends where you live, you can try Ubuntu's CD-images from a nearby download location :)
[22:02] <wil_> I guess for me, I am going to go back to windows (may not be perfect, but works for what I need), and when my shipit stuff comes, il try again
[22:02] <brobostigon> webu: i get average, over 200kbps
[22:03] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: try to update it or do a clean format.... with ubuntu v7.10
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> wil_: Get the md5 checker....  and burn at the slowest possible speed
[22:03] <wil_> I know some people said that it is not ideal to upgrade to big releases, it is best to do a fresh install... but I just want to check a few things and see if I can use ubuntu for what I need.... is there any command I can use to update 5.10 to the latest?
[22:03] <Webu> brobostigon, you mean over 200 KB/s?
[22:04] <bitmonster> join #ubuntu.de
[22:04] <brobostigon> webu: kilobype per second, yes
[22:04] <cr3> what's the name of that volume or brightness window which appears when pressing on the volume and brightness buttons on my laptop?
[22:04] <Robbster> wil_: technically you can, but it will be quicker and less painful to just get the latest iso and write that.
[22:04] <Webu> brobostigon, yeah, that's an average for a 2Mbit (download) connection.
[22:04] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: yes, u should go for n fresh install.....
[22:05] <Sonja> i can't access the files in /media/xyz/home/sonja
[22:05] <mykey> hello!  im new to ubuntu and linux and still in the trial phase.  i could use some help with configuring grub.
[22:05] <Indiadev_Techie>  brobostigon: r u over adsl line....
[22:05] <DRebellion> wil_: *sigh*  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:05] <wil_> well, as I said, this is just a test machine in my lab, I am going to load something else on next week.... as long as I can get it working, I dont really mind if it is messy.... what do I need to type to upgrade to 5.10.... I know that there is a load of little steps
[22:05] <Sonja> how do i browse my personal files?
[22:05] <brobostigon> Indiadev_Techie: yes
[22:05] <wil_> I tried that earlier DRebellion but it didnt work :( il try again
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: nautilus..if using ubuntu
[22:06] <Veinor> Sonja: did you look under /home/sonja ?
[22:06] <wil_> yeah, didnt work again :(
[22:06] <Sonja> yeah it seems to be blank
[22:06] <Veinor> weird.
[22:06] <wil_> :(
[22:07] <Indiadev_Techie> brobostigon: i tooo own a 2mbps connection.... but i get average over 300kbps.... my downloads r really fast... Zzaaap........
[22:07] <danand_> Sonja - what does ls -l /media/xyz give you?
[22:07] <Indiadev_Techie> wil_: what ???
[22:07] <Sonja> danand_:  http://pastebin.com/m7bde8067
[22:07] <brobostigon> Indiadev_Techie: 200kbps, is average, sometimes i get less sometimes 275kbps
[22:08] <wil_> sudo apt-get update just brings up a load of 404's
[22:08] <Webu> brobostigon, just to add, mostly you can see exact connection rates from you modem but it might be difficult if you have no experience accessing your modem (or your modem doesn't have anything configurable).
[22:08] <sunseeker888> Guys, I need to get a webcam. Are most webcam compatible or do i need a specific few brands?
[22:09] <Indiadev_Techie> brobostigon: i can download the whole iso of ubuntu alternate within 25 to 35 minutes.....
[22:09] <brobostigon> webu: my router has an http interface, it gives all that info, very easy to read to.
[22:10] <Sonja> danand_:  i'm trying to access my personal files, videos, etc. from my hard drive. i'm on a live session cd right now.
[22:10] <astro76> sunseeker888: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/cameras
[22:10] <Webu> brobostigon, nice, usually you can find the rates there :)
[22:10] <danielski_pl> g'mornin everyone
[22:10] <brobostigon> webu: i found them
[22:10] <danand_> Sonja - it appears root is the owner of all your files - just to quickly check try to sudo ls -l /media/xyz/home/sonja
[22:11] <belorix> hey can someome tell me how to install icon theme
[22:11] <brobostigon> webu: my router has linux on it as well
[22:11] <danand_> sonja - see if that turns up the contents of you directory
[22:12] <Webu> brobostigon, that's great, they should be exact (rate between your modem and phone center).
[22:12] <spowers> anyone ever have their firefox pointer disappear?
[22:12] <danielski_pl> is there any other cool apps like gkrellm?
[22:12] <spowers> wait cursor.
[22:12] <Sonja> danand_:  no such file or direcotry
[22:12] <brobostigon> webu: it says, just over 200kbps
[22:12] <Codemaster> Flare183: so what would i do after editing the sudoers file? is there an alternate way of reloading it except rebooting
[22:13] <freakyy> hi all. what is a good groupware server?
[22:13] <Sonja> nevermind i found my files elsewhere
[22:13] <Flare183> Codemaster: other than closing it. nope
[22:13] <Sonja> thanks
[22:13] <Webu> brobostigon, so it's all okay :) One thing to add, 200kbps is 200 kilobits per second not kilobytes per second like 200 KB/s.
[22:13] <MAXDDAR1> SOMEONE KNOW POLISH ?
[22:13] <Codemaster> Flare183: closing it?
[22:13] <astro76> !pl | MAXDDAR1
[22:13] <ubotu> MAXDDAR1: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[22:13] <Codemaster> oh, you mean the file ;)
[22:13] <rsfriends> hello, i have 1 questen,  if i have a ubuntu, 7.10, but want to upgrade to mint can i just type some command in terminal and that will get installed?`or do i need to burn the cd and install from the cd?
[22:13] <danand_> Sonja - ok
[22:13] <Flare183> Codemaster: yeah exactly
[22:13] <Codemaster> hah, okay
[22:13] <Codemaster> i'll have to go reboot the machines later, then :(
[22:13] <MAXDDAR1> astro76:  you know polish ?
[22:14] <danielski_pl> MAXDDARI: im polish :P
[22:14] <astro76> MAXDDAR1: no, everyone in #ubuntu-pl does, and this chan is english only
[22:14] <MAXDDAR1> astro76:  what does it say here about Linux : http://gry.o2.pl/publicystyka/?co=pokaz&id=215
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> rsfriends: Mint is not an upgrade from Ubuntu
[22:14] <cr4z3d`> i'm trying to enable my wired connection.. network manager has it grayed out and typing sudo ifup eth 0 gives me "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" but it lists eth0 in ifconfig
[22:14] <rsfriends> ok thx
[22:15] <belorix> \how do you install a ICON theme
[22:15] <ompaul> MAXDDAR1, ehh that is offtopic for here
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> belorix: Are you using compiz?  Emerald theme manager?
[22:15] <MAXDDAR1> do they talk about the game or the engine supporting Linux ?
[22:15] <belorix> emerald
[22:16] <MAXDDAR1> (sorry I know russian no polish)
[22:16] <danielski_pl> MAXDDARI: its about game reviews that work in linux w/o wine
[22:16] <ompaul> !offtopic | MAXDDAR1
[22:16] <ubotu> MAXDDAR1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:16] <belorix> Jack_Sparrow, emerald
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> belorix: Usually just a drag and drop the tar onto the system - pref -appearance - theme ...  but for emerald..  I would ask in #Compiz
[22:17] <Sonja> how do i install xvid mpeg4 support for ubuntu??
[22:17] <dimedo> where can i find the alsa configuration files in ubuntu 7.10?
[22:17] <belorix> Jack_Sparrow i did im not getting anywhere
[22:18] <Webu> cr4z3d`, you're trying to get your Internet connection working right? It doesn't have any IP assinged in ifconfig?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> belorix: What did they say in #Compiz
[22:18] <cr4z3d`> Webu, actually i'm on my ubuntu laptop right now using wireless with no problem. i've also tried sudo dhclient eth0 and got no address back + none of the link lights on my switch come on when i connect the cable
[22:18] <danand_> sonja - sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[22:19] <Sonja> ok
[22:19] <belorix> Jack_Sparrow i got it finally, but they never ansered and i asked 10 minuted ago
[22:19] <Aggrav8d> hello, all.
[22:20] <Indiadev_Techie>  Aggrav8d: Hello
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> belorix: Not all answers are going to be instant... You would still be on hold for Windows tech support
[22:20] <syczu> yo
[22:20] <belorix> Jack_Sparrow this is true lol while getting charged outragous money
[22:20] <Aggrav8d> i finally remembered to do a sudo apt-get update/upgrade and this morning I find my samba connections no longer work.  I'm running 2.6.17-10-server (edgy)
[22:20] <brobostigon> and we support for free, windows tech support charge you
[22:20] <Webu> cr4z3d`, hmmph.. Have you tried disabling your wireless connetion first?
[22:20] <Aggrav8d> anyone know what's going on?
[22:21] <Aggrav8d> i don't even know how to diagnose this.
[22:21] <Webu> cr4z3d`, you're trying to use wired connection same time with same computer right?
[22:21]  * xbisont is away: Ya me fuí
[22:22] <cr4z3d`> Webu, no i haven't.. really i'm just trying to solve an issue with playing audio files over the network wirelessly i'm trying to figure out if the skipping is from bad wireless connection or bad configuration
[22:22] <edico> hello
[22:22] <danand_> Aggrav8d - check to see that your /etc/samba/smb.conf file has not been replaced by a newer version due to upgrade
[22:22] <edico> I want install ubuntu
[22:23] <edico> how much space I need allocate for hem?
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> edico: Good choice, how may we help you
[22:23] <edico> I want to install ubuntu for a full desktop system
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> edico: Can you spare 20 gig?
[22:23] <edico> without a problem
[22:24] <Webu> cr4z3d`, oh, it sounds a bit strange though if switch doesn't light up after connecting a cable.
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> edico are you planning on only ubuntu system or dual boot with xp or another os
[22:24] <cr4z3d`> Webu, i have a feeling i need some special driver since this is an acer laptop with gigabit network card.. not sure about what kind exactly though
[22:25] <edico> I plannig to have 3 linux system, a freebsd and the unspeakable name
[22:25] <bardyr> cr4z3d`, what wifi chipset?
[22:25] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - looks to be the same.  i can still / my changes in the file.
[22:25] <cr4z3d`> bardyr, intel pro wireless abg
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> edico: If you create unallocated space, ubuntu will see it and install with grub connecting the other os
[22:26] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - i also tried reloading samba, just in case.
[22:26] <will_> quit
[22:26] <danand_> edico - you need about 100Mb for /boot about 5-20 Gb for /root (depending on how many packages your planning on installing), swap should be 1-2x the ammount of ram you have, /home should be as big as you can spare
[22:26] <cr4z3d`> also while i'm here.. is there a reason why i can't play an mp3 through xmms an amarok at th same time?
[22:26] <mgreen>  #/part
[22:27] <danand_> edico - if you do need to change partition sizes later you can do it with GParted
[22:28] <belorix> hwat are some commands to see whs connected to you?
[22:28] <sup444>  /msg ubotu flashissues
[22:28] <Hemebond> ANyone here know how to fix sound problems with audio modules not loading? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4271903&postcount=23
[22:28] <danand_> Aggrav8d - hmmm....
[22:28] <edico> I want to make just a partiion for ubuntu and one  for debian because I already have gentoo spread on many partition and linux doesn't handle more than 3 primary partition and 12 logical
[22:28] <Webu> cr4z3d`, that's possible since the switch doesn't light up, it should see your ethernet card no matter do you have any IP assigned or anything.
[22:28] <tts> can any one help me go disk-less , im finding it very hard
[22:29] <QaDeS> edico, that's more like a BIOS problem IIRC
[22:29] <Webu> cr4z3d`, like your ethernet isn't powered up at all.
[22:30] <tts> any one know how i can see whats inside a initrd.img-2.6
[22:30] <solexious> [Q] I want to have the usfullnuss of ubuntu server but I need to run programs that use the gui, can i still have the programs run at startup with out needing to login?
[22:30] <cr4z3d`> Webu, definitely seems like it's not powered up at all.. and i'm not really sure how to go about getting it up
[22:30] <astro76> solexious: yes of course, it's the same system
[22:31] <danand_> Aggrav8d - wonder if your smbpasswd data base got clobbered in the upgrade - could try sudo smbpasswd -a username and see if that helps
[22:31] <solexious> astro: how can i get then to run with out logging in?
[22:31] <Ax-Ax> I still don't get why my flux hangs on screensave
[22:31] <Webu> cr4z3d`, do you know which Acer model do you have?
[22:32] <Ax-Ax> It's wierd
[22:32] <cr4z3d`> Webu, yeah travelmate 8200
[22:32] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - tried it.  reloaded.  still no go. :(
[22:32] <Hemebond> Is Alsa what gives support to audio hardware? Or is it in the kernel?
[22:32] <adac2> Any idea why after some time my keyboard (notebook) does not work anymore in ubuntu? More precise: I boot. then do my things, and after a while the keyboard does not work anymore...
[22:32] <danand_> Aggrav8d - you sure firewall is not blocking??
[22:33] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - no, i'm not sure.  where do i check?
[22:33] <solexious> astro: how can i get then to run with out logging in?
[22:34] <astro76> solexious: servers you install will be set up to do so correctly, otherwise you add them the same way as any other linux system
[22:34] <astro76> !boot | solexious
[22:34] <ubotu> solexious: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[22:34] <neverblue> adac2, possibly see if there are errors in /var/log, specifically in syslog and messages
[22:34] <mohbana> hi guys i am going to do a reinstall of ubuntu, how can i get like an automated script of all the packages i have installed so i dont have to do it again
[22:34] <solexious> astro: Thank you
[22:35] <adac2> neverblue: ok i will run a tail -f on them and tell you then what error comes out
[22:35] <aseem> mohbana: dpkg -l
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > mohbana
[22:35] <neverblue> adac2, or just view them, looking for errors (during the time leading upto your issue)
[22:35] <jw144000> I need help with Wubi 7.10. It freezes whenever it gets to a certain percentage during the installation.
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi
[22:36] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[22:36] <aseem> mohbana: do you want a script to install all the pkgs for you or just a list of packages
[22:36] <adac2> neverblue: ok
[22:36] <Lagginator> Is there some shortcut key-combination that will exit XDM or FluxBox and go back to the command line?
[22:36] <mohbana> aseem, install script
[22:37] <mohbana> !automate > mohbana
[22:37] <aseem> that you will have to write one yourself, dpkg -l will gove you a list which you can run through awk to get the pkg name
[22:38] <Webu> cr4z3d`, what does "lspci" say about your ethernet card?
[22:38] <cpk1> I have a question, trying to boot from a 2.6.24 kernel I got from git and the entries for where to boot from are the same in grub but for some reason the 2.6.24 kernel says it cant find hd0,0 why is this?
[22:38] <pike_> Lagginator: alt-ctrl-backspace
[22:38] <aseem> for e.g.: dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y install - use it with care though
[22:38] <danand_> Aggrav8d - run sudo iptables -L. This should list all your firewall preferences - You should have something like ACCEPT  tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:microsoft-ds under Chain INBOUND header
[22:38] <Webu> cr4z3d`, you could also try "dmesg" to check out is there something regarding it.
[22:39] <Lagginator> pike: that gets me to the XDM login screen
[22:39] <Lagginator> pike: nvm, lol, its weird
[22:39] <Lagginator> pike: Thank you, the first few times it didn't work =/
[22:40] <pike_> Lagginator: oh yeah i normally dont run xdm with flux.  you could set something up to kill it is uppose
[22:40] <pike_> ah,k
[22:40] <cr4z3d`> Webu, intel corporation 82573E gigabit ethernet controller (copper) (rev 03)
[22:40] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - fail2ban-SSH tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh
[22:40] <aseem> mohbana: also use the -s flag for apt-get to just make sure that you dont break anything - it simulates an install
[22:40] <Aggrav8d> that's the closest thing i have.
[22:41] <danand_> Aggrav8d - you don't see any entries for microsoft-ds?
[22:41] <Aggrav8d> nope
[22:41] <mohbana> aseem, thanks ive found one !clone > aseem
[22:41] <mohbana> it does exactly what i had in mind
[22:41] <danand_> Aggrav8d - do you use the gnome desktop on your system?
[22:42] <Aggrav8d> no, it's a server.  i'm strictly command line, here.
[22:42] <Aggrav8d> i only installed fail2ban coz i was tired of some script kiddies trying to log in.
[22:42] <mindframe_> what files in /etc/ should i avoid restoring after a re-install?  anything besides fstab and mtab?
[22:42] <danand_> Aggrav8d - uh oh :) - what is fail2ban?
[22:43] <Aggrav8d> too many failed logins in a finite period and you get banned.
[22:43] <norty> I don't like how the ubuntu default cursor is, how do i change it?
[22:43] <danand_> Aggrav8d - k
[22:43] <Aggrav8d> but i'm not seeing a warning about being banned coming up.
[22:44] <Aggrav8d> unbans them after 24hrs or something.
[22:44] <Aggrav8d> in any case, fail2ban didn't trip on samba.
[22:45] <danand_> Aggrav8d - ok - do you have another machine available with a port-scanner (nmapfe) on it
[22:45] <gibobo> HI
[22:45] <Aggrav8d> nope.
[22:46] <norty> I don't like how the ubuntu default cursor is, how do i change it?
[22:46] <joeKr> I have used ClamWin many times, but this is my first time using ClamAV (Gutsy). How long (guesstimate) should ClamAV take to scan a USB HDD compared to ClamWin? (a lot faster, a lot slower, about the same)
[22:46] <NForc3r> need help guys
[22:47] <danand_> Aggrav8d - Have you made any changes to your firewall / iptables prior to samba stopping working?
[22:47] <NForc3r> cant install the nvidia driver?
[22:47] <gibobo> i have formated a used hard drive into ext 3 with gparted and i don't know how to make it mount at startup. can i do that with gparted?
[22:47] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - i nmap localhost and see that 445/tcp microsoft-ds is open.
[22:47] <NForc3r> help?
[22:47] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - i changed nothing other than the update/upgrade.
[22:48] <Indiadev_Techie> NForc3r: speakl out.....
[22:48] <b4l74z4r> how much space should i allow for root?
[22:48] <Indiadev_Techie> NForc3r: what....
[22:48] <Webu> cr4z3d`, your ethernet card should work with e1000 driver which should be included with Ubuntu. I suppose you're running 7.10?
[22:48] <cr4z3d`> Webu, yep i am running 7.10
[22:48] <bluefox83> ok, trackerd keeps taking up loads and loads of cpu on my fiance's computer, how can i stop it from doing that?
[22:48] <Webu> cr4z3d`, does ifconfig show hwaddr?
[22:48] <bluefox83> it does it even when she's not running serches
[22:49] <bluefox83> *searches
[22:49] <Aggrav8d> (btw, thanks for the help, danand_)
[22:49] <NForc3r> i install the nvidia driver for my 8800 gts (the new one with no restricted drivers) and it wont auto start and every time i restart my computer it runs in failsafe graphics mode
[22:49] <NForc3r> the driver wont autostart*
[22:49] <fireman23333333> HELLO
[22:49] <cr4z3d`> Webu, yes it does and actually now i seem to have eth0 and eth0avah ?
[22:49] <fireman23333333> I AM BACK
[22:49] <danand_> Aggrav8d - think localhost is always open - its connections from outside that may be blocked. First thing I would try is to add a command to iptables to open the required ports. Unfortunately i use a gui for that so i don't know the way to do that on the command line :(
[22:49] <cr4z3d`> Webu, etho:avah *
[22:50] <jetscreamer> go back away?
[22:50] <b4l74z4r> is 40gb for root and the rest for home and swap ok?
[22:50] <NForc3r> ?
[22:50] <gibobo> i have formated a used hard drive into ext 3 with gparted and i don't know how to make it mount at startup. can i do that with gparted?
[22:51] <wimpies> Any NFS specialist around ? For some reason when I automount an NFS Filesystem from system B on system A and shutdown system B, the Filesystem remains 'in use' on system A making it unable to unmount.  Only a restart of the nfs-kernel on A works.  What might cause this ?
[22:51] <wimpies> Any NFS specialist around ? For some reason when I automount an NFS Filesystem from system B on system A and shutdown system B, the Filesystem remains 'in use' on system A making it unable to unmount.  Only a restart of the nfs-kernel on A works.  What might cause this ?
[22:52] <norty> I don't like how the ubuntu default cursor is, how do i change it?
[22:52] <Belial> how can i have ubuntu automatically remember the keychain password for network manager
[22:52] <NForc3r> ill try envy
[22:52] <Hemebond> Did the latest updates contain kernel updates? Has it broken Alsa for anyone else?
[22:52] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - can telnet to the server on 445 from a windows box and it doesn't disconnect me.
[22:52] <Kenn> Hey - ive been looking for a decent text editor (mainly using it for xhtml/css) .. only feature im after is the auto-completion function that dreamweaver has.. any suggestions?
[22:52] <gibobo> (norty) go into system-preference-apparence
[22:52] <Hemebond> Kenn: Bluefish Editor
[22:53] <mindframe_> what files in /etc/ should i avoid restoring after a re-install?  anything besides fstab and mtab?
[22:53] <b4l74z4r> the sound is a bit thinner in ubuntu than in xp
[22:53] <Aggrav8d> Kenn - notepad++ ?
[22:53] <cr4z3d`> Webu, i have to restart real quick so if you think of anything hold on like 2 minutes
[22:53] <Slart> mindframe_: what about the udev stuff? nothing machine specific in there?
[22:53] <Slart> mindframe_: I don't know.. just thinking out loud
[22:53] <mindframe_> Slart, same machine... and yeah i've got some stuf i need to keep in udev
[22:54] <Kenn> Hemebond: you positive it got that feature? been trying tons of diffrent editors, most of them wants you to write the line before you can 'autocomplete' it, which takes away the whole point
[22:54] <Hemebond> Kenn: Lemme check.
[22:54] <Kenn> Hemebond: cheers :)
[22:54] <Slart> mindframe_: can't think of anything else...
[22:55] <b4l74z4r> how much space should i give root?
[22:55] <danand_> Aggrav8d - doesnt appear to be a firewall problem then - maybe we're barking up the wrong tree with iptables ....
[22:55] <Slart> b4l74z4r: a little more than you're going to use =).. do you have everything in one partition?
[22:55] <Hemebond> Kenn: It's very small. Would take about a minute to download yourself.
[22:56] <brobostigon> b4l74z4r: mines only 4gb, but the size depends on what you are going to do with the machine??
[22:56] <Kenn> Hemebond: yea i guess you are right, ill give it a shot :) brb
[22:56] <Indiadev_Techie> b4l74z4r: then update ur audio driver.... my ubuntu worl like charm without installing the drivers.... nd the sound is cristal clear.....
[22:56] <Slart> b4l74z4r: if you have separate partitions for /usr  and /home then root won't take much space.. a couple of Gb or so
[22:56] <danand_> Aggrav8d - you say you can use telnet (?) to connect to your machine on that port?
[22:56] <Hemebond> Kenn: I can't see any option for autocomplete.
[22:56] <b4l74z4r> Slart: i want to use seperate partitions for root, swap and home and i will use it for a little linux gaming and media collection
[22:56] <Hemebond> Kenn: Nor does it appear to be on by default.
[22:57] <gibobo>  i have formated a used hard drive into ext 3 with gparted and i don't know how to make it mount at startup. can i do that with gparted?
[22:57] <Slart> b4l74z4r: ah.. then you'll have /usr on there too.. I'd say.. 15-20 Gb at least..  that'll leave you some room for open office etc
[22:57] <danand_> Aggrav8d - samba uses ports 137-139 and 445 on my machine
[22:57] <b4l74z4r> ok
[22:58] <Webu> cr4z3d`, welcome back :)
[22:58] <b4l74z4r> i'm plan to get a 500gb drive, maybe i should give it 40gb just to be completely sure?
[22:58] <cr4z3d`> Webu, thanks
[22:58] <Webu> cr4z3d`, check out what's the device ID with "lspci -nn" for your ethernet card :)
[22:59] <Kenn> Hemebond: it actually had that feature - for html only tho, im almost there :)
[22:59] <TangentBuntu> hey, is there a channel devoted to the x window system (xorg, x11)?
[22:59] <Webu> cr4z3d`, that 8080:8080 number in brackets.
[22:59] <TangentBuntu> oh
[22:59] <BurningPanda> can anyone help me open a rar file from a terminal? i added the rar program but it dont got a gui, so im in truble :)
[22:59] <TangentBuntu> yes, there is
[22:59] <cr4z3d`> Webu, [8086:108c]
[23:00] <TangentBuntu> BurningPanda: just type "rarprogramname --help"
[23:00] <b4l74z4r> on the subject of swap space, i have 2gb ram, how much space should i give swap?
[23:00] <lymeca> Is it possible to make a .deb that downloads files from some versioning system like svn?
[23:01] <danand_> gibobo - is that a new partition you want to mount in an existing OS or do you want to install a new OS to that partition?
[23:01] <Indiadev_Techie>  b4l74z4r: u cal aslo assign 20gb partition to root partition... 2 - 4gb partition to swap.... and the rest for storage.... download..music ect....
[23:01] <Hemebond> Kenn: What do you mean by autocomplete. Several seem to insert the closing tag (which annoys the crap out of me).
[23:01] <BurningPanda> smn@smn-laptop:~$ rar--help
[23:01] <BurningPanda> bash: rar--help: command not found
[23:01] <gibobo> danand is that a new partition you want to mount in an existing OS
[23:01] <b4l74z4r> ok
[23:01] <b4l74z4r> should swap be between root and home?
[23:01] <danand_> BurningPanda - unrar file ...
[23:01] <ronny1> BurningPanda: rar --help
[23:01] <Hemebond> BurningPanda: rar --help
[23:02] <InspectorCluseau> man rar
[23:02] <wimpies> is there a different 'pool' folder in the dist for ubuntu for 64-bit kernels ?
[23:02] <BurningPanda> missed a spsce
[23:02] <danand_> BurningPanda - sorry - unrar e file.rar
[23:02] <BurningPanda> right thanks
[23:02] <ubuntu> hi
[23:02] <Kenn> Hemebond: well basicly, if i would start typing something, for example 'ba', dreamweaver would give me a few options starting on 'ba', like background...
[23:02] <gibobo> Danad: ‭i already have ubuntu installed and i want to add this hd
[23:02] <ronny1> damn there is not flash for x86_64
[23:02] <ahorriblemess> hi everyone
[23:03] <Kenn> speeding up the coding ALOT :)
[23:03] <ronny1> hi ahorriblemess
[23:03] <microphex> how do i automount my windows XP partition when i load ubuntu?
[23:03] <danand_> gibobo - you will need to add that partiton to your /etc/fstab file
[23:03] <ahorriblemess> This is probably a dumb question... Is the reason I can't download or use flash plugins because I'm operating on the Live CD? Or does Ubuntu/Linux just not accept those plugins?
[23:03] <clem85> bonsoir
[23:03] <justin__> !flash
[23:03] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[23:03] <Hemebond> Kenn: I've never looked for it in an editor. Nor have I ever used it.
[23:04] <danand_> gibobo - the auto option will cause the partition to be mounted to wherever you specify at boot time
[23:04] <Webu> cr4z3d`, hmm okey, i think you just should try to disable any wireless stuff, do a "sudo modprobe e1000" "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" just in case and check out does it work. You might need to try ifdown/ifup and dhclient for that interface (eth0).
[23:04] <gibobo> how? i'm using gparted
[23:04] <cr4z3d`> Webu, alright will do and see what happens
[23:04] <ahorriblemess> oh geez how do I scroll up if I'm in irssi?
[23:04] <Webu> cr4z3d`, okey :)
[23:04] <LiraNuna> ahorriblemess, page up/page down
[23:05] <ahorriblemess> haha thanks
[23:05] <LiraNuna> but hey
[23:05] <BurningPanda> works. thanks!
[23:05] <danand_> microphex - edit your /etc/fstab file - add the option "auto" to the listing for your winXP drive
[23:05] <Kenn> Hemebond: bah, i feel rather crippled without it, as im used to it.. guess it made me rather lazy :) .. well, thanks for the help mate, so far bluefish was the best actually
[23:05] <microphex> thanks
[23:05] <LiraNuna> ahorriblemess, use irssi-proxy and xxchat
[23:05] <LiraNuna> best combination ever
[23:05] <mindframe_> how do you use those in combination?
[23:05] <gibobo> danand: does the flags option have something to do with that
[23:06] <gibobo> danand: if a flag it as boot? wiil it work
[23:06] <LiraNuna> mindframe_, irssi-proxy acts like an IRC server
[23:06] <Hemebond> Kenn: If you search Synaptic for "html editor" you get tonnes. I would just install them and try them out.
[23:06] <mindframe_> oh you said proxy :)
[23:06] <LiraNuna> irssi-proxy is an irssi feature
[23:06] <Kenn> Hemebond: yea thats basicly what ive been doing so far.. tried a good 10 or so, starts to get pretty boring tho :)
[23:06] <LiraNuna> one of it's bests
[23:06] <Hemebond> Kenn: Agreed. I've done it before. I end up just using gedit.
[23:06] <TangentBuntu> hey, I need to start xorg on this server so I can run gaim and such on it
[23:07] <LiraNuna> currently I'm using xchat, but if you VERSION me, you'll see I'm using irssi
[23:07] <Kenn> Hemebond: i guess i will end up doing the same in a few hours.. :)
[23:08] <danand_> gibobo - no, you can't use gparted for that. Instead you need to edit your /etc/fstab file. This is where all the info about what drives you have and what to do them is store in GNU/Linux or Ubuntu. You can edit this file using gedit for example.
[23:08] <jamiequint> can someone tell me what the purpose of /usr/bin/X11 is. it seems to be just a clone of /usr/bin/
[23:08] <jamiequint> sorry if thats a stupid question
[23:08] <gibobo> ok thanks
[23:08] <danand_> gibobo - you need to be careful editing that though :)
[23:09] <Kenn> anyone else got any suggestions on editors? (html/css mainly), with the autocompletion featured in dreamweaver?
[23:09] <Kenn> before i start going thru the whole list.. :)
[23:09] <g^> scite? pretty sure that has an auto complete.
[23:09] <Kenn> g^: only if you typed the word before, taking away the whole point :/
[23:10] <nogets> Como resolver? Você sabe?
[23:11] <hansderelict> my laptop started overheating whenever i do graphics intense operations in ubuntu. this doesn't happen in windows. i have cleaned my vents / applied thermal compound etc.. to no avail. i've installed various modules and power saving software in ubuntu, but nothing helps. i have been messing with this for a week now, and unfortunately i might have to switch back to xp if i can't fix it, since i do graphic design. has anyone ex
[23:11] <hansderelict> perienced these issues? i have a gateway mx8715 laptop.
[23:12] <idefix> normally you download software and install it from the /tmp dir?
[23:12] <idefix> or from your user dir?
[23:12] <idefix> installation doesn't seem to go correctly
[23:12] <idefix> why does linux always put downloaded stuff in /tmp?
[23:12] <p0rk> Hey all: Suppose you're dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows XP and want to delete the Windows partition. Is it as simple as deleting its partitions?
[23:13] <idefix> don't do that p0rk
[23:13] <idefix> use windows or linux and wine
[23:13] <Aggrav8d> danand_ - i also tried smbclient -L and it shows the share i'm trying to access.
[23:13] <Webu> idefix, how are you trying to install software?
[23:13] <idefix> by running a script
[23:13] <Webu> idefix, make and make install right?
[23:13] <idefix> no
[23:13] <Chousuke> idefix: linux doesn't download anything, usually
[23:14] <PriceChild> idefix, what are you trying to install? You should get it from the repositories if possible.
[23:14] <p0rk> idefix: I'm sorry, I don't follow--should I just not bother even trying to delete the windows partition?
[23:14] <idefix> the script is called glGo.install script
[23:14] <Chousuke> idefix: if an app puts stuff in /tmp it's entirely the app's fault :P
[23:14] <idefix> p0rkrunning multi boot is a dream
[23:15] <idefix> Chousuke, whenever I download stuff it almost always goes to /tmp
[23:15] <Webu> idefix, how do you download stuff :O?
[23:15] <p0rk> idefix: Not really...I don't need the windows partition anymore and have about 50 GB just sitting on my harddrive doing nothing.
[23:15] <amenado> p0rk-> yes as easy as formatting that partition
[23:15] <Chousuke> idefix: well then you should configure your download app so that it doesn't put it there
[23:15] <p0rk> amenado: Thanks.
[23:15] <danand_> Aggrav8d - wierd - all seems to be ok - but still no connection? - no wonder your Aggrav8d :)
[23:16] <idefix> hm p0rk I think so right? just delete it it won't hurt linux
[23:16] <ronny1> its goodbye windoze
[23:16] <rullie> hey guys, hardy heron doesn't look bad, anyone has some screenshot archives or videos?
[23:16] <PriceChild> !hardy | rullie
[23:16] <ubotu> rullie: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:16] <Webu> idefix, you're trying to install this? http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/glgo/download.html
[23:17] <idefix> yes
[23:17] <porcho> hi there. I'm trying to install Ubuntu Gutsy using the Live CD, and the installation stuck at 82%, and it says that it's "reading the mirrors"...is there a way to bypass this part of installation or abort it so that I can start all over again?
[23:18] <rullie> PriceChild, well... do you have more?
[23:18] <idefix> Webu, when you use ubuntu which extension fits?
[23:18] <TangentBuntu> I need help installing xorg server on this computer
[23:18] <Webu> idefix, i'd suggest to download that Debian package and do a "dpkg -i glGo-1.4.deb" as stated in instructions :)
[23:18] <PriceChild> rullie, read what ubotu said
[23:19] <Webu> idefix, Debian packages should work fine since Ubuntu is Debian based.
[23:19] <rullie> s/join #ubuntu+1
[23:19] <rullie> oops
[23:19] <danand_> Aggrav8d - hope you get sorted - maybe try in #samba channel - see if they can shed any light?
[23:19] <xsights> can someone answer a few Q's on switching to ubuntu from vista? send pm pls
[23:19] <viktor> Whenever i install something, when the installer completes i get tons of errors such as: "dpkg: error processing openoffice.org-gnome (--configure)" any ideas? thanks a million :)
[23:20] <damien_> anyone know how to make oidentd work properly behind a router?
[23:20] <mahmoud_> xsights: you can write them here
[23:20] <Pentarex> viktor: try reinstall :P
[23:20] <idefix> Webu, but what in general is the best directory to install programs for?
[23:20] <idefix> I would reckon ~/...
[23:20] <idefix> but I'm just not sure
[23:20] <damien_> what sort of install, idefix ?
[23:21] <idefix> dpkg -i glGo-1.4.deb
[23:21] <Webu> idefix, download it anywhere you want, i'd prefer your home directory.
[23:21] <damien_> a manual configure, make, make install?
[23:21] <damien_> or like an SVN/BZR ?
[23:21] <Webu> idefix, it installs it automatically where it should, you don't have to worry anything.
[23:21] <idefix> ok
[23:21] <damien_> i install subversion stuff under ~/.apps/
[23:21] <porcho> anyone can help me in dealing with a stuck installation? should I abort it or there's a less traumatic alternative?
[23:21] <viktor> Pantarex: I had the same problem on my stationary PC (sitting on my laptop which i installed ubuntu from the same CD) however, i dont have any problems on my Stationary pc anymore, I did something to make it go bye bye, but i cant remember what :P
[23:22] <Webu> idefix, dpkg and/or the program you install takes care of all that stuff.
[23:22] <damien_> porcho: aborting and restarting shouldn't cause a problem?
[23:22] <damien_> try the alternate install cd
[23:22] <exneo> sup hey are usb laser mouses compatible with ubuntu I've been tryin out games and I need a good mouse
[23:22] <johnficc1> what would be the best for video editing on linux ?
[23:22] <Pentarex> viktor: what version of ubuntu do u have
[23:23] <exneo> gutsy
[23:23] <viktor> Pentarex: gutsy 7.10
[23:23] <exneo> but I jump around and try other distros
[23:23] <damien_> johnficc1: try UbuntuStudio?
[23:23] <exneo> so gutsy good
[23:23] <johnficc1> I have a friend that wants to switch to ubuntu, but is a pro video editors
[23:23] <porcho> damien_: I think that the installation hung up by the time it tried to contact with the repositories...if I start the installation disconnected, will I be able to download the latest packages later?
[23:23] <Pentarex> viktor hmm sry no idea
[23:23] <damien_> porcho: yes
[23:23] <viktor> Pentarex: ah no worrys mate, thanks alot for your interest anyways :)
[23:24] <damien_> but not being able to connect usually results in it ignoring them and continuing
[23:24] <psss> my laptop monitor doesn't work anymore after messing up with settings...what can i do?
[23:24] <damien_> i rarely bother to set up internet before i install using a livecd
[23:24] <Pentarex> johnficc1: what is your point
[23:24] <damien_> psss: boot into 'safe mode', run 'dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg'
[23:24] <Webu> idefix, just to clear out, you can find most of the software you need from Ubuntu repositories (http://packages.ubuntu.com/), they're all ready-to-go packages to install with "sudo apt-get install programname" like "sudo apt-get install planetpenguin". If you prefer to use GUI (Graphical User Interface, not command line), Synaptic does the job like apt-get in command line.
[23:25] <exneo> so are laser mouses good for ubuntu linux
[23:25] <damien_> his install has frozen though
[23:25] <happyface_> does anyone know why I am not able to ping my router, or any PC's on my network with my wireless Ubuntu PC?
[23:25] <damien_> exneo: yes, most should work fine
[23:25] <damien_> if not all
[23:25] <idefix> I executed the dpkg command but it isn't going as it should
[23:25] <damien_> happyface_: are you connected to the right wireless? :)
[23:25] <happyface_> sure am
[23:25] <damien_> idefix: is it a root login you're in?
[23:26] <viktor> whenver i install something i get like 30 errors (always the same ones, and everyone about some fonts and openoffice stuff) "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" the programs always work... how do i stop all the error messages? thanks a million in advance! =)
[23:26] <idefix> no, but I did sudo..
[23:26] <Pentarex> idefix: try sudo dpkg
[23:26] <psss> it say command not found
[23:26] <Pentarex> or su root
[23:26] <damien_> dpkh-reconfigure xserver-xorg, yea?
[23:26] <psss> damien_
[23:26] <johnficc1> Pentarex: do they have a pro video editing program for linux
[23:26] <damien_> dpkg******
[23:26] <psss> reconfigure
[23:26] <Pentarex> idefix: su root
[23:26] <johnficc1> Pentarex: or is cinalrra as good as it gets
[23:26] <psss> 'dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg' u write this :P
[23:26] <damien_> dpkg-reconfigure
[23:26] <johnficc1> ?
[23:27] <psss> ok
[23:27] <damien_> oops, sry :)
[23:27] <phuzion> What program do people use to manage iPods in Ubuntu?
[23:27] <josiah> how can I export all information from a .pdf to a .doc?
[23:27] <damien_> crappy laptop keyboard :P
[23:27] <psss> now it work thc :P
[23:27] <PreNoob> would anyone be able to help me compiling the code for f-spot in ubuntu?  ./configure seems to go through but there is no makefile to build..
[23:27] <Pentarex> johficc1 they have emulators :) i dont know what is this program
[23:27] <damien_> phuzion: Exaile, good as long as you don't have a 2gb old nano ;)
[23:27] <damien_> PreNoob: read the install file
[23:27] <solexious> [q] what command can i use to check file ermissions?
[23:27] <Pentarex> johnficc1: for what program do u talk about
[23:27] <phuzion> damien_, 8GB Touch, it should still work?
[23:27] <solexious> [q] what command can i use to check file ermissions?Parmissions*
[23:28] <Webu> solexious, try ls -all :)
[23:28] <RichW> Where does ubuntu store the path to rndc.key with bind?
[23:28] <solexious> ty
[23:28] <damien_> phuzion: are you the mouse guy? yea
[23:28] <damien_> run the livecd
[23:28] <phuzion> mouse guy?
[23:28] <damien_> oh right i see
[23:28] <Pentarex> do anyone know how to log in as root and change the previlegies for sda5 ?
[23:28] <damien_> nevermind :p
[23:28] <damien_> yea, just try a bunch :)
[23:28] <damien_> exaile, amarok, gtkpod, banshee
[23:28] <phuzion> !root | Pentarex
[23:29] <psss> do i have to use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[23:29] <ubotu> Pentarex: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:29] <johnficc1> Pentarex: I don't know of many video editing programs for linux and I was hoping someone here would.
[23:29] <damien_> sudo su -
[23:29] <damien_> :p
[23:29] <Pentarex> johnficc1: forr windows ?
[23:29] <phuzion> damien_, suggesting how to get into a root shell?
[23:29] <damien_> johnficc1: get UbuntuStudio
[23:29] <psss> do i have to use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[23:29] <Pentarex> damien_: are u talking to me and my question ?
[23:29] <jack-desktop> i just installed netbeans6.0 and it says open the program via the desktop icon, but it didn't place a desktop icon
[23:29] <phuzion> because sudo -s also works
[23:29] <jack-desktop> how can i figure out how to run it
[23:29] <Pentarex> damien_: only for me not on my q :P
[23:30] <b4l74z4r> if i have 2gb ram, should i set my swap to 2gb aswell?
[23:30] <psss> damien_ : do i have to use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[23:30] <damien_> i dunno whta that is
[23:30] <psss> it ask me
[23:30] <psss> in the configure
[23:30] <damien_> b4l74z4r: set like 768mb of swap or smth
[23:30] <psss> :S
[23:30] <phuzion> psss, don't repeat your question unnecessarily, if someone knows, they'll answer
[23:30] <b4l74z4r> ok
[23:31] <sslashes> i am getting a segmentation fault on the most-current mplayer package - ubuntu gusty - any ideas?
[23:31] <phuzion> sslashes, did you compile yourself or install from apt-get?
[23:31] <psss> phuzion , i thought that they don't see it so i repeat sry :P
[23:31] <gnutronic> Pentarex - the root account is diabled by default, use 'sudo' with chmod and/or chown with the -R recursive flag.
[23:31] <sslashes> phuzion: apt-get
[23:31] <phuzion> sslashes, try uninstalling it and re-installing
[23:32] <gnutronic> Pentarex - you're doing something potentially risky by the way.
[23:32] <phuzion> Anyone know how to disable the Camera Import feature for when you plug in an iPod Touch?
[23:32] <sslashes> phuzion: wow - that did it, thanks =P
[23:32] <jack-desktop> how can i view the roots desktop folder?
[23:32] <phuzion> sslashes, no problem
[23:32] <phuzion> jack-desktop, the root user doesn't have a home directory, therefore doesn't have a desktop.
[23:32] <Pentarex> but i cant make folders or save my pictures on my hard drive this is not a file system hard drive :)
[23:32] <LjL> phuzion: but it does
[23:32] <Pentarex> Orochimaru: sama
[23:33] <Feebz13> can somebody help me with my internet connection on my ubuntu machine. It was working, now it stopped. I tried the unplug and replug. Its a wired internet connection using dhcp (i'm connected now using a vista sys)
[23:33] <djzn> hi dudes... is there any good software to replace "ConvertXtoDVD" where you actually have any XviD/DivX .Avi file converted to VOB files, menus and subtitles???
[23:33] <Orochimaru> Pentarex, hi (:
[23:33] <TwoD> Hello all. I had a rather "interesting" experience this evening... Somebody (or perhaps something, as in a script), connected to my session, got a notification about somebody controlling my desktop, which quickly went away. They apparently thought they conencted to a Windows machine since the path to cmd.exe was typed in where my cursor was.
[23:33] <phuzion> LjL: Technically, its the same home folder as the first account
[23:33] <Webu> b4l74z4r, it depends on your usage, your actual swap usage might be very low but it's safe to have some extra swap just in case :)
[23:33] <LjL> phuzion: not really, it's /root
[23:34] <LjL> phuzion: that it's not supposed to be used is another matter
[23:34] <phuzion> cd ~ kicks me to /home/phuzion
[23:34] <phuzion> as root
[23:34] <Webu> b4l74z4r, if you happen to have enough free space on your disks feel free to set it to 2GB :)
[23:34] <mahmoud_> Feebz13 : what's your Ethernet model ?
[23:35] <Pentarex> good night all of u
[23:35] <Webu> Nites Pentarex :)
[23:35] <TwoD> After that, nothing else happened. I looked through the logs but found no indications of an incoming connection, except from firestarter which reported a single connection to port 10000 (webadmin, which I don't have installed)
[23:35] <LjL> phuzion: depends how you went into root
[23:35] <phuzion> LjL: sudo -s
[23:35] <tomd> anyone else get a dcc send from FleshMax?
[23:35] <SmartUnix> i have image from my damaged hard disk (from dd command), can i mount to this image now? (sorry for my English)
[23:35] <LjL> phuzion: if you use "sudo -s" or something equivalent, it would do that, because it doesn't change your environment variables
[23:36] <phuzion> but after doing sudo su, i got kicked to /root for cd ~
[23:36] <LjL> phuzion: that's why "sudo -i" is recommended in many circumstances
[23:36] <gnutronic> Pentarex - if your drive is auto-mounted then refer to the /etc/fstab file and change its mounting directives. this is well documented in the ubuntu wiki's
[23:36] <phuzion> sudo su is what I do if I want a full root environment
[23:36] <Webu> b4l74z4r, like heavy video editing and things like that need a lot of memory (and swap space to extend it).
[23:36] <tomd> isn't sudo su a naughty thing to do?
[23:36] <LjL> phuzion: "sudo su" is pretty redundant, the "-i" option is there to do exactly that
[23:36] <phuzion> LjL: same amount of characters
[23:36] <phuzion> plus, I think its easier to type su than -s
[23:37] <tuttlen> join irc.freenode.org/vbox
[23:37] <phuzion> -i*
[23:37] <LjL> phuzion: and two calls to two programs that perform essentially the same function
[23:37] <tomd> well, typing su would require the real root password.
[23:37] <yell0w> is it just me, or am I just being really attractive to dcc spams ?
[23:37] <TwoD> Anyways, does anyone know where the services which start with gnome are listed? No changes I apply in the Services gui tool seems to apply...
[23:37] <LjL> yell0w: who from?
[23:37] <phuzion> LjL: Honestly, I'm not concerned with something that's going to take under one hundredth of a second on my machine
[23:37] <yell0w> LjL: fleshmax ?
[23:37] <djzn> hi dudes... is there any good software that actually makes any XviD/DivX .Avi file converted to VOB files, menus and subtitles???
[23:37] <tomd> yell0w: I got a spam from that idiot too
[23:38] <LjL> yell0w, tomd: he's not been in this channel though AFAICS
[23:38] <phuzion> yell0w, do you have DCC auto-accept enabled?
[23:38] <tomd> LjL: irssi told me here's where he came from
[23:38] <yell0w> tomd: ditto
[23:38] <tomd> DCC auto accept.. brilliant idea.
[23:38] <xsights> is it safe to add Ubuntu and dual boot with my installed vista?
[23:39] <tomd> xsights: yes, but booting vista is generally unsafe to do.
[23:39] <yell0w> phuzion: no, but it's annoying as crap
[23:39] <phuzion> :) tomd
[23:39] <yell0w> i've seen that happening over and over again
[23:39] <maxownz> booting vista is also a waste of time
[23:39]  * tomd still hasn't booted vista.
[23:39] <phuzion> yell0w, if you're having a problem with a user, report them to freenode staff in #freenode
[23:39] <happyface_> does anyone know why I am not able to ping my router, or any PC's on my network with my wireless Ubuntu PC?
[23:39] <xsights> i would only use vista for gaming, unless call of duty 4 plays on ubuntu?
[23:39] <gnutronic> yell0w - use /ignore nickname
[23:39]  * tomd doesn't have a $1000 dollar graphics card for it.
[23:39] <phuzion> happyface_, sounds like you're not connected to your wireless
[23:40] <tuttlen> anyone know how to make virtual box display winxp 1600x1024 ?
[23:40] <happyface_> I sure am, phuzion
[23:40] <maxownz> happyface_: probably because you aren't on the network or your other PCs are configured to not respond to pings?
[23:40] <axel_> Hello! I've got a problem with Kile. When I try to compile a document with citations I get a warning saying that there was no .nls-file. Can anybody help me cofiguring Kile?
[23:40] <yell0w> gnutronic: phuzion ok
[23:40] <LjL> tomd, yell0w: ah yes... that was more than 3 hours ago though
[23:40] <phuzion> xsights, I still haven't figured out CS:S on Ubuntu
[23:40] <TwoD> xsights, I have both installed, it works just fine.
[23:40] <phuzion> ljl, you're an op, aren't you?
[23:40] <xsights> ok thanks, ill try it
[23:40] <stdin> tuttlen: #vbox is the virtual box support channel, try asking there
[23:40] <yell0w> LjL: the thing is, i saw the same thing happening every day :)
[23:40] <happyface_> maxownz: i can't connect to the router's http page or ping the router either
[23:40] <LjL> phuzion: do you need anything?
[23:40] <tuttlen> thnx
[23:40] <tuttlen> join #vbox
[23:41] <yell0w> like almost everyday i check and see that message from some dude
[23:41] <phuzion> ljl: nah, not right now.  I was just seeing if my memory served me correctly
[23:41] <maxownz> happyface_: then i'd say you need to take another look at your configuration
[23:41] <tuttlen> command to join is (Ex. point) join then channel right?
[23:41] <phuzion> happyface_, honestly, to me, it sounds like you arne't connected to your network.  can you get to the internet?
[23:41] <LjL> yell0w, it was a channel attack, everybody saw it, it wasn't directed at you specifically
[23:41] <LjL> tuttlen: /join #channel
[23:41] <tuttlen> !join #vbox
[23:41]  * cafuego boggles
[23:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join #vbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:42] <tuttlen> thnx
[23:42] <yell0w> LjL: oh was it ?
[23:42] <stdin> tuttlen: /join
[23:42] <yell0w> nvm then
[23:42] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> hi all, i have just being changing some of the settings for  services and i modified gdm so it did not start on boot, however i now want to change it back
[23:42] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> could someone tell me what the default setting is
[23:42] <cafuego> Are there any users of the packaged phpmyadmin here who find that its session code crashes apache2?
[23:42] <flask_> Anybody know how to add a location entry to the "Places" menu in GNOME?
[23:42] <amenado> happyface_-> does your nic have an ip address? can you check via  iwconfig  or ifconfig ?
[23:43] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> ie. for each run level should it be start/stop/ignore and the priority
[23:43] <Kenn> trying again - anyone know a decent editor (mainly html/css) with a 'autocomplete' feature like in dreamweaver?
[23:43] <LOLpc> hi
[23:43] <happyface_> amenado: yes it does
[23:43] <LOLpc> i'm attempting to install ubuntu
[23:43] <amenado> happyface_-> what is the ip address assigned to your nic?
[23:43] <happyface_> 192.168.1.100
[23:43] <LOLpc> i can only get to the busybox promt
[23:43] <clarezoe> can any one help me I can't type even "ls""cp" command in my terminal, but with the error inmformation error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:43] <phuzion> happyface_, is the gateway the IP that is normally your router's IP?
[23:44] <happyface_> the start of the dhcp server
[23:44] <TwoD> Anyone who knows which file the Services gui frontend manipulate?
[23:44] <dn4> where is the developers ubuntu chat?
[23:44] <amenado> happyface_-> now what is the result of   route -n  ? does it show any gateways?
[23:44] <yell0w> TheRealFaceOfBoe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=bootlog
[23:45] <happyface_> it shows 3 bogus gateways, then the right one... but no destination... here one sec
[23:45] <LOLpc> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu off a CD, and i can only get to the busybox promt
[23:45] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> i will like a right idiot, i just changed it to what i thought it was and it shut the service down
[23:45] <phuzion> !pastebin > happyface_
[23:45] <yell0w> good thread on what the  processes run at boottime are
[23:45] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> cheers yell0w, i'll take a look
[23:45] <amenado> clarezoe-> that looks liked you hosed your system, do an fsck at boot time
[23:45] <happyface_> i am hold on
[23:45] <InspectorCluseau> somebody HELP LOLpc ?
[23:45] <LOLpc> there are so many people in here
[23:45] <happyface_> amenado: phuzion http://pastebin.com/d5a8b7d27
[23:46] <LOLpc> thanks inspector
[23:46] <clarezoe> thanks amenado , but how to do fsck at boot time, I'm really new to linux
[23:46] <happyface_> eth1 is my wireless, btw phuzion amenado
[23:46] <phuzion> !ask | InspectorCluseau
[23:46] <ubotu> InspectorCluseau: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:46] <InspectorCluseau> oh get real.....
[23:47] <axel_> LOLpc: I had this problem too. I figured out, that the DVD-drive was not supported.
[23:47] <InspectorCluseau> the guy needs help from you "experts"
[23:47] <Feebz13> amenado: what does it mean if you route - n and there is no gateway
[23:47] <amenado> happyface_-> can you ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[23:47] <happyface_> no
[23:47] <amenado> Feebz13-> you can not get to the destination
[23:47] <LOLpc> axel_:no solution?
[23:47] <LOLpc> boot off something else maybe
[23:47] <gnutronic> kenn - bluefish is a good lightweight editor, but i don't know if it has auto-complete.
[23:47] <Feebz13> amenado: is there a way to fix this? this is prob why my internet isnit wrking! :)
[23:47] <amenado> happyface_-> pastebin the result of your iwconfig
[23:48] <amenado> Feebz13-> yes..but hang on, am assisting two
[23:48] <axel_> LOLpc: Those day I haven't tried it but I'd try a network-install.
[23:48] <happyface_> http://pastebin.com/d20b32409
[23:48] <Feebz13> amenado: no problem
[23:48] <phuzion> InspectorCluseau, We don't need more people encouraging us to help LOLpc, if someone knows something, they will suggest it.  In the meantime, LOLpc can help us help him by providing as much details as he can.
[23:48] <Kenn> gnutronic: it only got the 'close tag' for html, sadly :( ..not quite whatim looking for
[23:48] <amitprakash> does someone know a tutorial for webpage design, which actually implements a decent webpage..?
[23:48] <LOLpc> now now guys
[23:48] <amenado> clarezoe-> try to reboot for now, maybe it will fix itself..
[23:49] <TheRealFaceOfBoe> yell0w: great thread, thanks, do you know what the priority should be?
[23:49] <clarezoe> ok, I'll try
[23:49] <happyface_> and heres my ifconfig amenado: http://pastebin.com/d3db6704c
[23:49] <amenado> Feebz13-> you need to pastebin your route -n ,  ifconfig , also
[23:49] <axel_> LOLpc: Do you know German?
[23:49] <Feebz13> amenado: i'm onit
[23:49] <LOLpc> axel_: not one bit
[23:50] <dn4> !alpha
[23:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alpha - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:50] <dn4> I just installed the developers alpha version where is the chat for that?
[23:50] <amenado> happyface_-> you said you were using wifi? and it is using eth1 ?  your paste does not reflect that
[23:50] <axel_> LOLpc: A pitty. I found an instruction in German.
[23:50] <jabagawee> hey guys
[23:50] <neverblue> amitprakash, not sure if thats really on the topic of Ubuntu
[23:50] <jabagawee> the help wiki is really vague on a diskless setup. wanna helP/
[23:50] <amitprakash> neverblue, yeah.. wrong chan
[23:50] <LOLpc> axel_:link/
[23:50] <happyface_> amenado: it's a restricted driver.. and yes it is wifi... how does it not reflect that? because it says Ethernet?
[23:51] <amenado> happyface_-> it doesnt reflect it because it does not say ESSID  associated..
[23:51] <white_eagle> I never tried an rpm based distro, and I see coments that apt is way much better than rpm, why is that?
[23:51] <axel_> LOLpc: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/PXE-Installation
[23:52] <gnutronic> dn4 -  try   /join  #ubuntu-devel
[23:52] <happyface_> amenado: that was my ifconfig... my iwconfig does say the ssid: http://pastebin.com/d20b32409
[23:52] <LOLpc> thanks
[23:52] <phuzion> white_eagle, in my experience, apt-get is fast, reliable, and simple to use.  never used rpm though, so I can't compare the two
[23:52] <dn4>  /join  #ubuntu-devel
[23:52] <boweeb> I have an interesting problem. I can see the other computers on my home network with nmap -sP but I can't ping them - or the router - or the internet. This is a new problem. It worked before - I'm not aware of any changes. (edgy server)
[23:53] <gnutronic> dn4 - no spaces :)
[23:53] <dn4> thx
[23:53] <gnutronic> dn4 - you're welcome.
[23:53] <amenado> happyface_-> okay thats a bit more reasonable...you can not ping any other address in the 192.168.1.x range?
[23:53] <happyface_> Nope
[23:54] <amenado> happyface_-> btw, do you also have your eth0 ? ethernet?
[23:54] <happyface_> yes I do have a NIC, amenado. and it is eth0
[23:55] <amenado> happyface_-> and is that an ethernet interface?
[23:55] <happyface_> yes
[23:55] <amenado> happyface_-> and is it connected to same router/access point?
[23:55] <happyface_> no amenado, it's not plugged in
[23:55] <amenado> happyface_-> it has an ip address assigned to it...can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:56] <amenado> whats this, everyone is quiet cept for us two?
[23:56] <happyface_> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d2246e4a8
[23:56] <happyface_> that's for use if I do plug in my eithernet
[23:57] <boo> hey guys, im not sure if this is the right channel for this but... Does anyone know how to take out a page from a pdf?
[23:57] <axel_> LOLpc: Did it help?
[23:57] <Feebz13> amendo: sorry i was looking for a usb key
[23:57] <Feebz13> one sec
[23:57] <amenado> happyface_-> where is the entry for your eth1 on that file? why is it missing?
[23:57] <clarezoe> amenado, thanks, it's ok now
[23:58] <amenado> clarezoe-> okay..good luck
[23:58] <EmmerP> anyone who can help me with exaile's tag editor?
[23:58] <happyface_> amenado: It's just not there... theres a bunch of blank lines after that info for eth0
[23:58] <idefix> I installed something and get this: glGo: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:58] <happyface_> amenado: my wireless is in roaming mode, not using a static ip
[23:58] <amenado> happyface_-> there should be an entry for your eth1 also,
[23:58] <happyface_> amenado: ah, then what should I do?
[23:58] <amenado> happyface_-> still, even a roaming mode
[23:58] <Feebz13> amendo: http://pastebin.com/m6f5f80c9
[23:59] <idefix> why does a PC sometimes lag?
[23:59] <amenado> amenado-> try removing the roaming mode in nm..and see if it corrects that file
[23:59] <LOLpc> axel_:maybe
[23:59] <idefix> well I hope you're all happy
[23:59] <axel_> LOLpc: I found an English instruction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[23:59] <toresn> how can i connect two computers using a crossover cable?