djznis Kubuntu 8.04 going to ship with KDE Four?00:03
stdinthere will be a KDE4 and a KDE3 version00:05
goppphey any use ubuntu, and gotten dual monitor to work00:05
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama00:07
djznwill the 3.x series be the "main" KDE in kubuntu?00:08
stdinCDs from shipit will have KDE4, upgrades from gutsy will stay KDE3 unless you decide to install KDE4 too00:09
djznis KDE 4.0 a promise in terms of people may start looking for KDE instead of GNOME from now on?00:10
djznand eventually a more closer interest on Kubuntu than Ubuntu?00:10
stdinKDE 4.0 is just the latest version of KDE, if you decide to use it instead of Gnome then great, if not then it's you're choice00:11
djzni mean... i try try try to use GNOME, but it's a pain...00:11
stdinit wasn't created to directly compete with Gnome, but to be a better KDE00:11
djznthen I try try try to use KDE, it's another pain (too many menus, too many features, too many hundred different ways to achieve something)00:12
Odd-rationaledjzn: Try just using a wm like *box00:12
djznno, i think GNOME and KDE actually are the way to go, but it's funny how they keep "losing" it....00:13
Odd-rationaledjzn: My personal favorite is fluxbox00:14
djznthere is no functionality in fluxbox00:14
djznnot interested in pressing million key shortcuts00:15
ScorpKingnite guys00:15
the-ermI have a usb drive, and I leave it plugged in all the time, however /dev/sd* doesn't show up unless I turn it off then turn it back on after a reboot.  Any ideas on how to fix this?00:16
axel_I've got a problem with Kile. When I try to compile a document with citations I get a warning saying that there was no .nls-file. Can anybody help me cofiguring Kile?00:17
the-ermI don't know what kile is to be honest.00:17
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etfbDoes Adept Updater have a log or history file anywhere?  I want to see what was updated recently.00:19
the-ermetfb: /var/log/apt/term.log ... I think00:20
stdinetfb: you can use the /var/log/dpkg.log too00:21
NickPrestathe-erm, yep. I don't know if it logs Adept stuff there too (although it should).00:21
etfbCool, thanks.  I'm running on my work Windows box right now (although using Erc in Emacs) so I'll fire up my Ubuntu laptop and check.  Thanks for the info.00:21
Odd-rationaleHow will I know when keep is done backing up?00:23
maduserits never done it just keeps on backing up:)00:23
Odd-rationalemaduser: So what happens if I remove my ext hdd now?00:24
hamboboi need thewindows xp for grub menu because it got deleted when i installed 7.1000:39
jhutchinsOdd-rationale: I suppose you would have to shut it down and unmount the drive.00:40
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:40
Silouckan application to save my webcam sessions?00:40
Odd-rationalejhutchins: Shutdown and remove the drive while it is off?00:40
jhutchinsOdd-rationale: pronoun collision.  Shut down keep, un-mount drive, remove drive.00:41
Odd-rationalejhutchins: oh, ok.00:41
Silouckan application to save my webcam sessions?00:43
jhutchinsSilouck: webcam sessions of/in what?00:43
andy_hey guys, just wondering where they widget styles are kept in kde?00:45
Silouckjhutchins: webcam from notebook00:46
Siloucki need an app that can save the webcma sessions independently of using an instanst messenger protocol00:46
tmosxopoulosI just installed kubuntu and I dont here the sound00:46
tmosxopoulosany sound00:46
tmosxopouloscan anyone help me00:47
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:47
Odd-rationaletmosxopoulos: Another thing you can try is to open konsole and type speaker-test00:47
jhutchinsSilouck: You're not being very clear.  If you want to save video from IM session, you either need an IM client that supports it or a desktop capture program.00:48
Silouckjhutchins: no, not from a IM session, just from webcam00:51
hambobohow do i recover windows after ubuntu upgrade00:58
NickPrestahambobo, what do you mean? Windows doesn't show up in your operating system list at start up?00:59
hamboboNickPresta: excatly00:59
doobehQuick question--  If I create a file, and then a symlink to that file.. Can I give the symlink different permissions00:59
doobehe.g. if I say the original file can only be opened by bob01:00
doobehbut the symlink can be opened by sarah01:00
doobehcan sarah read that file?01:00
stdindoobeh: no01:00
Silouckjhutchins: well was useless to ask you01:04
freakyyhi all. is anyone familiar with kontact and eGroupware?01:05
Daisuke_Ido!attitude | Silouck01:07
ubotuSilouck: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:07
sputnickbizarre, avec gutsy + compiz fusion je n'ai que 2 bureaux virtuels effectifs alors que ma barre de tache en affiche 8 oO   dans mes reglages j'en ias 4...01:07
Daisuke_Idostdin: in other words, bob doesn't want sarah looking at his collection of adult photographs01:08
sputnicksorry, wrong channel01:08
hamboboi need the grub menu command for windows xp01:13
hambobowindows xp deleted from grub menu thats why01:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:14
hamboboi saw it no help..01:14
Daisuke_Idothat's got the other way 'round, but i dunno...01:15
Daisuke_Idowindows is installed on the first partition of your first hard drive?01:15
NickPrestahambobo, you can try running `sudo update-grub` in a Konsole and see if that adds an entry to your menu.lst (in a Konsole type: cat menu.lst. At the bottom, you shuold see mention of Windows)01:15
hamboboDaisuke_Ido: i dont know01:16
Daisuke_Idonick's got the better idea01:16
Daisuke_Idoi forgot about update-grub01:17
gaudahello friends, i've got a little question regarding ssh and auto-login on an ubuntu 7.10 machine. can someone help please?01:17
NickPrestaYou can manually add the Windows entry if you want to try. http://pastebin.ca/893310 (add that at the very bottom) but try `update-grub` first.01:17
NickPrestagauda, explain your question as best you can and if someone can help, they will help :)01:17
gaudai set up a single-sign-on to a server so i can log in very easy. i used the file /etc/pam.d/kdm-np and added the lines  @include pam-ssh-auth and  @include pam-ssh-session but i am not able to use the single-sign-on any longer :(01:18
Daisuke_IdoNickPresta: that was going to be my suggestion01:18
gaudaas i understood, the file kdm-np is for non-graphical login: autologin01:18
nick__how do i upgrade to harryharon from commandline?01:24
hambobowhy You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.01:25
nick__how do i upgrade to harryharon from commandline?01:28
stdinnick__: 1) it's Hardy Heron, 2) don't01:29
nick__y not?01:30
hambobohow i get permission to write to grub01:30
stdinnick__: because it's development software and unstable01:30
nick__:"( ok i will have to find another way to help out01:30
nick__thanks for your help :P01:31
stdinhambobo: in what application?01:31
hambobostdin: so i can put my new menu.lst in it01:31
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stdinhambobo: depends what application, for kate you use "kdesu kate" for nano you'd use "sudo nano"01:32
juanhow do i setup grub after the install? so that it updates as normal (my alt-cd refused to install to when i told it about my grub)01:32
hambobostdin: never used sudo nano before01:32
juanhambobo: only root has permision01:32
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.01:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:34
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juanid recomend eding grub in nano ( IMO, theres less to go wrong), unless kate has a highlight mode to help with grub01:36
hamboboi use sudo gedit01:36
ubuntume ayudan con una entrada01:37
gaudai set up a single-sign-on to a server and it works really good. now i want to use the auto-login of kde (gnome should be very similar), so i activated it via the kdm configuration and used the file /etc/pam.d/kdm-np to add the lines  @include pam-ssh-auth and  @include pam-ssh-session but now i am not able to use the single-sign-on any longer :( the question is  if /etc/pam.d/kdm-np is the right file. as i understood it is read at non-graphical login. is auto01:38
ubuntucomo crear un disco de rescate01:41
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:42
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hamboboi have edited the sudo nano grub menu now wat01:44
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MikeTI just installed a new theme for kde and the text in certain websites (only when view'd in firefox) is a light green, anyone know whats going on?01:48
stdinhambobo: save it "Ctrl-O" and exit "Ctrl-X", that's it01:49
hambobostdin: thanks!!!!01:51
hambobostdin: well i gotta go bye01:51
juancan kopt=root=UUID for grub be copied from fstab or is it looking for a particular part of the HDD02:00
stdinjuan: they use the same UUID yes02:00
juanif i give everybody the power to shutdown and select grub as the boot manager, can they choose to boot to different grub options, and more importnatly does this bypass my grub locks02:08
stdinjuan: it won't bypass a grub password02:16
juanso if they select boot from cd it will still respect the 'lock ' on the option?02:16
stdinas long as the bios isn't set to boot from cd02:17
snarkstergood evening02:18
snarksterdoes kde network manager work kde402:18
stdinall the kde3 apps work in kde4 (as longs as they are installed)02:19
snarksterok so I can install knetwork manager for kde3 and it will work?02:20
tekteensnarkster: yes02:21
tekteensnarkster: I use knetworkmanager (kde3) on kde402:21
juanhow much more ram does kde4 use? is it feasable to run it on 256?02:24
biovorenot really02:25
Daisuke_Idoha...  haha...  HAHAHAHA...  actually, you can try it.  kde 4 is NOT polished enough for regular desktop use yet, however.02:25
juanbiovore: what the real min spec about 512?02:28
biovoreits a debug compile.. so its slow02:28
biovoreprobably 512 would work.. needs a good graphics card though..02:28
biovorehas GL effects built in..02:29
stdinthe binaries are stripped actually02:29
biovoreoh they are..02:29
shindawas wondering if anyone has gotten flash to work with konquerer in 7.10? I've been trying for last little while but anytime i visit a flash site, ndsiplugin crashes02:40
shindaI chceked out google, and it seems to be a common annoyance02:40
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mdshaw89Hello!  Any pointers to knetworkmanager?  All of a sudden it stopped working!  It was working fine - now it doesn't.  I changed router settings, uninstalled/re-installed and nothing.02:55
Dr_willisUninstalling/reinstalling is 'windows thinking' :)02:57
jeismacould anyone tell me how to open beryl on startup?02:57
Dr_willisI would say check the forums for info on that mdshaw89  it may be some common issue02:58
sub[t]rnlmdshaw89➜ make sure there is nothing defined in /etc/network/interfaces/  you'll only want "auto eth1" or whatever your device is.  Otherwise knetworkmanager won't control it.02:58
Dr_willisjeisma,  beryl? or compiz-fusion?02:58
jeismaDr_willis beryl02:58
sub[t]rnlmdshaw89➜ /etc/network/interfaces02:59
mdshaw89my /etc/network/interfaces has all kind of junk in it02:59
Dr_willisjeisma,  Berly is basicially dead. You could lauch it from a script in .kde/Autostart i guess02:59
mdshaw89okay - so looks like I need to wipe it03:00
NickPrestajeisma, what's wrong with Compiz-Fusion?03:00
jeismaNickPresta i never tried compiz-fusion03:01
Dr_willistime to start :)03:01
Dr_willis!compiz | jeisma03:01
ubotujeisma: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion03:01
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz03:01
NickPrestajeisma, I would ditch Beryl and give compiz-fusion a try. It has the core features that you like in Beryl and then some. It is also more stable and updated/developed03:01
juanjeisma keep a beryl install if possible, alot of Beryls features remain unported03:02
NickPrestajuan, like what?03:03
tyson_does compiz fusion work well on gutsy kubunt?03:03
NickPrestatyson_, yep.03:03
jeismaNickPresta i followed your advice and i just removed beryl and goin onto compiz03:03
juaninput redirection (a major set back for may thins), switching to top of cube03:03
mdshaw89Now my ath0 won't enable at all????03:04
mdshaw89device shows up in ifconfig03:04
NickPrestajuan, okay. Fair enough (although there are more than enough faces on the cube that you don't need the top). I would hardly consider those "alot of Beryls features"03:05
tyson_should i get compiz or compiz-kde?03:05
NickPrestatyson_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion Read the section on Installing (for Kubuntu)03:06
juanthe input redirection 'hack' allowed stuff alot functionality that wont hit compiz for along time, the tob/bottom cube makes a nice screenlock and is also a very nice way to see all your desktops at the same time/get to a desktop fast03:06
jeismaNickPresta how will i go about making this compiz start on startup?03:06
juanjeisma: do you use sessions?03:06
NickPrestajeisma, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-f4aed4bfe7729780222e161618770913c685986903:06
jeismajuan what do you mean sessions? i don't now what that means03:07
sub[t]rnlcompiz-kde only contains a window decorator for compiz that looks like kwin.03:08
jeismaCOuld someone tell me how to get rid of the tooltips that come up when you do a mouseover the windows or any icon on the bottom bar menu03:08
juankde by default keeps all your aplications, so when u start up the programs you were using last time you shut down, also start, if you use session compiz gets saved03:08
jeismaincluding the taskbar, and hwen you hover over windows03:08
jeismai guess i don't use session juan03:08
sub[t]rnljeisma➜ right click, configure panal, appearance03:08
jeismajuan cause when i had beryl, it wouldn't be up next time i restarted03:08
NickPrestajeisma, right click on the task bar > configure > Appearance > uncheck Enable Icon Mouseover Effects03:08
juanim updated a clean install i just go a question over if i want to update a library should i report this as a bug?03:10
NickPrestajuan, I don't understand what you mean.03:10
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juani just installed kubuntu, ran sudo aptitude upgrade and got a conflict, does this need reporting or should i just solve it and ignore it03:11
jeismaNickPresta so i just followed those instructions from the site you gave and i still dont have compiz on here03:12
NickPrestajuan, what happens when you run: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade03:13
NickPrestajeisma, have you install compiz-fusion?03:13
jeismaNickPresta and now none of my windows have headers?? help!03:13
jeismaNickPresta i ran the line it told me too03:13
jeismasudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra03:14
jeismacompizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common03:14
jeismathat line03:14
NickPrestajeisma, try Alt+F2 and then type in: emerald --replace03:14
jeismasaid no command found03:14
jeismacould not run the specified command i mean03:14
Daisuke_Idowell of course03:14
Daisuke_Idoit's part of the previous line03:14
Daisuke_Idoyou don't have window decorations because you don't have a window decorator03:15
jeismaok soo how do i get that?03:15
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common03:15
armadill0jeisma, I just jumped in... try compiz --replace03:15
jeismano i already did that03:15
armadill0jeisma, ok03:15
juannot sure ill try it once i diside which version of the file i need to keep03:15
jeismaarmadill0 and hten everything shakes a bit, goes black for a sec and then that's it03:16
Daisuke_Idojeisma: use the command i gave you03:16
jeismaarmadaill0 oh i did it again and they're back..03:16
jeismaDaisuke_Ido i already did that as aprt of the command above wen i installed everything03:16
armadill0jeisma, ok. so, that command works?03:16
jeismaarmadill0 yup03:16
armadill0jeisma, great.  was that the only problem?03:17
jeismaarmadill0 well i want to be able to do the same things as beryl how do i open compiz and do that?03:17
armadill0jeisma, you can control a great deal of compiz with ccsm03:17
NickPrestajeisma, the compiz setting manager is called ccsm.03:18
armadill0jeisma, you can run that command, "ccsm"03:18
bmac2I am installing kubuntu on a dell poweredge 2450 and can not get it to install even if I diable raid on it.  Anyone know of any documentation on how to getaroud the scsi problems of the poweredge controller?03:18
armadill0jeisma, and if you have it you can run "emerald-theme-manager"03:18
jeismaarmadill0 and NickPresta i ran ccsm and it said could not run specific command03:19
armadill0jeisma, you may have some packages missing03:19
NickPrestajeisma, did you run: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common03:19
NickPrestaall one line03:19
armadill0jeisma, there is a good howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion03:20
jeismayes and i got this at the end however:03:20
jeismaThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:20
jeisma  emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed03:20
jeisma           Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable03:20
jeismaE: Broken packages03:20
jeismaarmadill0 that's actually what i was advised to used :(03:20
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get -f install03:20
NickPrestajeisma, run: sudo apt-get -f install03:20
jeismawhat does that do?03:20
jeismaand i just did that, now what?03:20
sub[t]rnl-f is fix broken dependencies03:21
NickPrestait will fix broken depends03:21
NickPrestaand sub[t]rnl beats me again.. :)03:21
jeismai just tried again and it didn't work?03:21
* sub[t]rnl goes back to the corner03:21
jeismaor did i need need to try and install it again?03:21
NickPrestajeisma, after you run: sudo apt-get -f install, it should have resolved all the dependency issues and everything should be installed properly. does `ccsm` not work?03:22
jeismaNickPresta ccsm still does not work03:22
jeismacan i somehow just remove all of this and someone walk me thorugh it?03:22
jeismaor can someone just figure out what's wrong cause i have no idea03:23
NickPrestajeisma, the instructions really aren't harder than described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-1447dbabe59744a63cad770f4d2143fb45cb4aad03:23
jeismayeah i did all of that03:23
jeismaexcept that stuff before updating03:23
jeismacause im on gutsy03:23
jeisma7.10 is gutsy right?03:23
jeismaso that's correct then?03:23
NickPrestajeisma, yep.03:24
jeismaso what's the problem?03:24
jeismai tried installing those things again and it said they're broken packages again03:24
NickPrestajeisma, and you ran 'sudo apt-get -f install'?03:24
jeismayup and i did that again03:25
jeismawhat type of output should i get cause it said..03:25
jeisma0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:25
jeismashould they all be 0?03:25
NickPrestajeisma, that should indicate that everything is working fine.03:25
CreationistCould someone please tell me how to disable TwinView in xorg.conf?03:25
jeismaNickPresta but i type in ccsm and nothing happens except it saying could not do specificed command or whatever03:26
NickPrestaCreationist, you can do it easily in `nvidia-settings`03:26
NickPrestajeisma, run: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager03:27
jeismai thought that was only got ubuntu?03:27
CreationistCreationist: How do I do that?  Setting it to use "Separate Monitor" instead of twinview doesn't add the necessary line to xorg.conf.  Disabling TwinView in xorg.conf is the only way I've found to fix my refresh rate problem.03:27
jeismaok done03:27
jeismanow what?03:27
NickPrestajeisma, now you should be able to start 'ccsm'03:28
jeismaNickPresta well i typed it in, and then nothing happened this time03:28
jeismaNickPresta rather than it saying specificed command blah blah03:28
CreationistNickPresta: How do I do that?  Setting it to use "Separate Monitor" instead of twinview doesn't add the necessary line to xorg.conf.  Disabling TwinView in xorg.conf is the only way I've found to fix my refresh rate problem.03:28
juanCreationist: how is twinview working, through xorg o throguh proprietry drivers?03:29
draikIs anyone here familiar with PHLAK or know where I may be able to get assistance with the apps (ie: What each app does and how to use it).03:29
NickPrestaCreationist, you go to the second list item (Display Configuration) and then click on Configure beside the Configuration option (which should be set to twinview). Set it to separate screens. Then make sure you save to X configuration file. Doesn't that work?03:29
Creationistjuan: I have no idea...03:29
CreationistNickPresta: No, it's always been set to separate screen.03:29
NickPrestajuan, AFAIK, twinview is unique to nvidia GPUs which support dual-display functionality.03:29
CreationistNickPresta: I remember disabling twinview in xorg.conf was the only thing that allowed me to use my monitor's native 60hz refresh rate...  Unless you know of a different way.03:30
jeismaNickPresta anything?03:30
jeismaanyone know why my compiz won't work?03:30
jeismai think i may try beryl again and hit up03:30
juanthey evolved into 1, wierd stuff happens with x sometimes its worth checking the setting for nvidia settings03:30
juanjeisma was beryl working fine?03:31
Creationistjeisma: What version of Kubuntu are you running and what do you mean by "won't work?"03:31
NickPrestaCreationist, I don't know how to set the refresh rate. I let mine setup automatically (at 50Hz right now).03:31
CreationistNickPresta: Yeah, mine automatically set to 50 as well, but that makes things a bit fuzzy and hard on my eyes.03:31
ubuzztuis there a usb bootable kubuntu?03:31
NickPrestajeisma, so typing `ccsm` from the command line doesn't give any output but it doesn't open up?03:32
jeismajuan yeah it was working fine, i just wanted it to startup when i started the computer03:32
jeismaNickPresta correct03:32
jeismaCreationist 7.1 and i mean some things look different but i can't change anything03:32
tyson_is there a way to avoid having to type in my password to kwallet everytime i connect to the internet with my wifi?03:32
NickPrestaCreationist, check out ftp://download.nvidia.com/solaris/1.0-8178/README/appendix-g.html It has details on setting rates and such with Twinview.03:33
Creationistjeisma: And you've install compizconfig-settings-manager?03:33
jeismaCreationist yes03:33
ubuzztuis there a usb bootable kubuntu?03:33
jeismaNickPresta if you have no more ideas, im just goin to try and get bac to beryl03:33
NickPresta!usb | ubuzztu03:33
ubotuubuzztu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent03:33
jeismaor anyoen else for that matter? :(03:33
affan!printer | affan03:34
jeismanow how do i get rid of compiz?03:34
NickPrestajeisma, that is your decision, of course, to go back to Beryl. Keep in mind that Beryl won't be updated again. But if it works for you, that's fine.03:35
NickPrestajeisma, just retype all those install lines you executed a few minutes ago and replace "install" with "remove"03:35
jeismaNickPresta yeah the only problem is i can't get it to work03:35
Creationistjeisma: I don't understand.  You say it works, but you can't change anything?03:35
juanyou can have both installed that way you can switch to compiz and try and fix it if beryl fails03:35
jeismaCreationist nothing happens when i do ccsm on the command line03:36
jeismaCreationist i can't change anything myself but the only diff not is my window headers are transparent03:36
juanwindow boarders, try running emerald --replace03:37
Creationistjeisma: Does it report anything or just drop straight to the terminal again?03:37
jeismathis is what i get03:39
jeismajeisma@jeisma-laptop:~$ ccsm03:39
jeismaInfo: No sexy-python package found, don't worry it's optional.03:39
jeismaTraceback (most recent call last):03:39
jeisma  File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 45, in <module>03:39
jeisma    idle = ccm.IdleSettingsParser(context)03:39
jeisma  File "usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 229, in __init__03:39
jeisma  File "usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 228, in <lambda>03:39
jeisma  File "usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ccm/Utils.py", line 225, in FilterPlugin03:39
jeismaAttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized'03:39
jeismasorry guys03:39
jeismaand i did that in alt f2 and it just does nothing03:39
Creationistjeisma: Have you tried purging all compiz related packages and reinstalling?03:40
jeismaactually that's what i just did03:40
jeismaand i got that03:40
jeismabut there are some extra window effects i've noticed03:40
jeismai didn't do that myself03:40
jeismajuan NickPresta should i be expecting some window to show up when i do ccsm?03:41
jeismai go to settings > compiz settings manager and nothing comes up03:41
jeismabut i get this03:43
jeismacompizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version.03:43
juanhmm, i dont have compiz atm clean install but all i can think is putting the menu option into a dialog and clicking run in terminal (just incase it isnt running ccsm but the other tool they made)03:43
jeismawhen i try and install that03:43
lokemhi folks, is the wiki entry on compizfusion (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion) still good on 7.10?03:43
jeismalokem im actually having a problem with it right now, and they told me to use that03:43
jeismaso if that works for you, tell me all exactly you did03:44
lokemjeisma: sure thing.  what configuration are u using?03:44
jeismawhat do you mean? kub7.103:44
lokemjeisma: uh.. hardware wise :)03:44
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jeismalokem sorry gateway is all i know, 512mb of ram03:45
jeismaand not that great of a processor03:45
lokemjeisma: cool.  instalilng it now.  i'm using a latitude d630.03:45
jeismalokem ok cool tell me how it goes, i just can't manage to open the sttings manager03:46
NickPrestajeisma, did you upgrade your Gutsy install from Feisty? Do you have any third party repositories (Treviño's, etc)?03:46
jeismaNickPresta i installed it from cd03:47
NickPrestajeisma, so this is a fresh Gutsy install?03:47
jeismaNickPresta yes03:47
NickPrestaCan you post the output of `dpkg -l | grep compiz` to a pastebin03:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:47
lokemjeisma: odd... i can't even do a compiz --replace03:49
juanNickPresta: aptitude dist-upgrade wont reproduce the bug as its fixed now, i dont think im going to report it as its unfixable and unimportant03:49
NickPrestajuan, okay03:49
jeismaNicPresta http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54955/03:49
juanthx for all the help NickPrest & stdin03:49
jeismalokem i had that trouble at beginning too.. and then it just ended up working in a min03:50
lokemjeisma: ahh... i know why.  Xgl is not present... shesh.03:50
NickPrestajeisma, I found the problem (I think). You have conflicting versions. Your python-compizconfig is 0.5.2 (good) but your compizconfig-settings-manager is 0.6.99 (bad).03:51
NickPrestajeisma, run this: sudo apt-get remove compizconfig-settings-manager python-compizconfig03:51
jeismaok done NickPresta03:51
jeismanow what?03:52
NickPrestajeisma, now, do this: sudo apt-get -V install compizconfig-settings-manager python-compizconfig03:52
NickPrestajeisma, paste the output of that (don't install) to a pastebin03:52
jeismaNickPresta you want the entire output? it's lengthy03:53
NickPrestajeisma, in a pastebin, sure03:53
jeismaohh in apastebin ok03:53
lokemjeisma: eesh.... xserver-xgl is REALLY slow.03:53
jeismahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54957/ NickPresta03:53
jeismalokem ha yeah how is it coming along for you?03:54
lokemjeisma: got it working.  but it's way too slow.03:54
NickPrestajeisma, have you added any repositories to your sources.list? Can you pastebin the output of `cat /etc/apt/sources.list`?03:54
jeismalokem at least you got it working03:54
lokemjeisma: true :P03:55
jeismaNickPresta http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54958/03:55
jeismalokem you had no trouble with your settings manager?03:55
NickPrestajeisma, do you notice anything funny? Comment out (put a # infront of the line) the last find. The one that looks like: deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy03:56
NickPrestajeisma, so type in: `kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list`. and then comment out the last line, save the file and close Kate.03:57
jeismaNickPresta i just put # in front?03:57
NickPrestajeisma, yep. # deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy03:58
jeismaNickPresta now what?03:58
NickPrestajeisma, run this: sudo apt-get remove compizconfig-settings-manager python-compizconfig03:58
jeismanow what03:59
NickPrestajeisma, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -V install compizconfig-settings-manager python-compizconfig03:59
NickPrestayou should notice that the versions for the two packages are now the same.03:59
jeismaTHEY ARE04:00
jeismaand now..04:00
NickPrestajeisma, good. Things should work fine now.04:00
NickPrestarun ccsm and enjoy04:00
jeismaI LOVE YOU04:00
NickPrestayou added a line to your sources.list for Feisty so you were installing an old version of cssm but the backend was a different version04:00
NickPrestain a sense04:00
tekstacyDo I NEED grub if I only have one os on the system?04:00
jeismaNickPresta now how do i go about using all tehse effect on compiz?04:01
jeismasuch as cube gears..04:01
NickPrestajeisma, the setting manager is fairly self explanatory. Just enable the effect and check out the key bindings for them. Then try them out04:01
jeismawhere do you find the key bindings?04:02
NickPrestatekstacy, I don't know if you _need_ GRUB but if you don't want to hit enter/wait every time, you can change the default timeout to 1 second (so you don't notice the GRUB menu)04:02
NickPrestajeisma, if the plugin has a key binding, you can usually find an Action tab in the effect window.04:03
tekstacyOh, duh, forgot that. Thanks! :)04:03
NickPrestatekstacy, do you know how to do that?04:03
tekstacyyeah, done it a few times. Guess I just had a brain freeze04:04
NickPrestatekstacy, ah okay. :)04:04
NickPrestaand if no one else has any other pressing matters, I'm going to sleep. Goodnight all.04:04
tekstacyI'm building a system to use remaster-sys to make a cool live cd04:05
jeismaNickPresta ok last question, i just want to get the desktop cube to work how do i do that? it says ctrl alt down and nothing ahppens04:05
jeismaanyone know what Super means?04:06
jeismaas a key04:06
NickPrestajeisma, you actually want the Rotate Cube plugin. Check it off, press "control" and "alt" and left click yourmouse button and move left/right/whatever04:06
NickPrestajeisma, and the Super key is usually the Windows Key (between Control and Alt on some keyboards)04:07
jeismaNickPresta how come it's not a cube though? its just a plane rotating04:07
NickPrestajeisma, do you have the Desktop Cube plugin enabled or the Rotate Cube plugin enabled?04:08
jeismai think both actually04:08
NickPrestajeisma, good.04:08
NickPrestajeisma, if you press Control+Alt+Down, it unfolds. If you press Control+Alt+Left Mouse click and move the mouse, it is a cube.04:08
jeismaNickPresta when i do down it down't do anything04:10
NickPrestajeisma, hmm. you will just have to play with it. You can join #compiz-fusion (/join #compiz-fusion) and ask in there. They can help you.04:10
jeismaok thanks04:10
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jeismaanyone know how i can mae my terminal translucent?04:11
tyson_its in the options04:13
tyson_schema i think04:13
jeismatyson_ where is that?04:14
tyson_settings menu of kconsole (which i am assuming you are using)04:14
adrock358hey has anyone watched LOST online with ubuntu?04:14
adrock358the media player is only for windows04:15
Daisuke_Laptopwell then, probably not.04:15
Daisuke_Laptophe just came in to impart that nice little pearl of wisdom04:16
Daisuke_Laptophow lovely04:16
tyson_to change virtual desktops, all i need to do is click the numbered square near the task tray, yes?04:17
boggystudiosis there a tool to check the info on a video file?  for example I need to know what codec it uses, bitrate, etc.04:18
biovoreboggystudios: try file <filename>04:22
biovorealso mplayer on the command line will tell you all that information..04:23
tyson_anyone here using compiz?04:31
hgarciahey guys, I got a question, I am a newbie to compiling source files, my question is what does this mean "export PATH="$prefix/bin:$PATH"04:59
nyp4lifehow do i get kde4 on my machine? im running 7.1005:01
nyp4lifei tried apt-get install kde4 and got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54959/05:03
tyson_can plasma run on kde 3.whatevercomeswithgutsy?05:04
kenalexcan kde work with compiz ?05:13
boggystudiosHow do I force ffmpeg to us mp3 as the audio codec?05:28
sub[t]rnlwith the -acodec option?05:30
sub[t]rnli.e. -acodec libmp3lame05:30
boggystudiosit won't take libmp3lame05:31
sub[t]rnlwhats the error?05:32
boggystudiosit just says "Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'"05:33
sub[t]rnlah, you need to install it then05:33
sherl0kthe ffmpeg compile in ubuntu does not have mp3 support built in i believe05:34
sherl0kyou need to compile ffmpeg manually and add in the codecs, it's all in the readme05:34
boggystudiosyes this is true but I have already compiled ffmpeg with mp3 support05:35
Jucatois lame installed?05:36
Jucatohow about plain -acodec mp3?05:36
boggystudiosthat was the first one I tried, lol05:37
sub[t]rnlmaybe check what you codecs you have installed05:38
sub[t]rnlif you have mencoder, do mencoder -oac help05:38
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:38
Jucatonot sure if "ffmpeg -formats" returns the currently supported formats, or all possible supported formats05:39
boggystudiosI know that lame is installed because when I convert video to the ,flv format it uses mp3 for the audio by default05:39
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:40
Jucatoboggystudios: hm... but you're not sure if you installed it? :)05:41
Jucato(just checking)05:41
boggystudiosI am 100% sure that ffmpeg is compiled with mp3 support05:42
dkettman I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 and am having a problem with sound after hibernation. I have done alot of scouring of the web recently, and I thought I saw something about a fix in an upcoming release of the kernel. Is this release out yet?05:42
Daisuke_Idowhy did you compile it rather than just install it from the repos05:43
freakyyhow to save sessions in kde4?05:44
purpleposeidonuh oh, somehow /boot/grub got removed05:47
mrdigitalwhen is kde5 coming?05:50
Phoenix92xhi, I'm trying to mount a usb hard drive that worked perfectly well until I rebooted. It's ext3 formatted. I try to mount it with mount -t ext3 /dev/sdd1 /home/phoenix/mnt/nike but it tells me "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on sdd1" and checking dmesg | tail gives me "ext3 no journal on filesystem on sdd1". I've done fsck /dev/sdd1 but it hasn't seemed to help. If someone could help me with this I'd really appreciate it, I have a lot of s05:51
Phoenix92xtuff on the drive05:51
purpleposeidonPhoenix92x: If you can, you should probably back it up05:53
Phoenix92xpurpleposeidon, trying to05:54
coolbhavi How to install Urban terror on kubuntu gutsy 64 bit?06:05
coolbhavianyone listening?06:14
aldaekwhat makes kubuntu different than ubuntu?06:15
aldaekother than kde vs gnome?06:15
sub[t]rnlaldaek➜ nothing06:16
coolbhaviHow to install Urban terror on kubuntu gutsy 64 bit?06:17
sub[t]rnlpurpleposeidon➜ have you tried re-installing grub from within the grub shell? or with grub-install?06:17
purpleposeidonsub[t]rnl: I fixed everything, it's happy now, just worrisome06:17
sub[t]rnlwhat did you use to fix it? just curious06:18
sub[t]rnlcoolbhavi➜ what exactly is the trouble?06:20
coolbhaviI am not able to install urban terror on kubuntu gutsy 64 bit06:21
sub[t]rnlanything specific as to why your not able to install it?06:21
coolbhaviI followed instructions on Ubuntu Guide but not able to install please help06:22
sub[t]rnlwe just need some more information, like why you are not able to install.  Something specific.06:23
coolbhaviIts given that its i386 which means 32 bit right?06:24
sub[t]rnlthats the arch yeah.  Have you downloaded and unzipped the game?06:24
sub[t]rnlyour going to want to run the ioUrbanTerror.x86_64 installer06:25
sub[t]rnlnot the i386 one06:25
coolbhaviDo I have to download it seperately?06:26
sub[t]rnlit should be in the .zip06:26
sub[t]rnlmake sure its executable and run it. chmod  755 ioUrbanTerror.x86_64 && ./ioUrbanTerror.x86_6406:27
chupiei'm trying to access my mp3 player, its a Philips GoGear SA6087, its a MTP device w/ windows, how can i access it?06:27
coolbhaviOK thanks06:27
sub[t]rnlchupie➜ have you looked into GOLB and openGoGear06:29
chupieno, i haven't06:30
sub[t]rnllook into those, MTP isn't supported in linux natively, but there are packages to get it supported06:31
chupieah, k06:31
coolbhaviI have a geforce 4 card06:32
sub[t]rnllibmtp/mtpfs for support06:32
coolbhavidoes it run compiz?06:32
holycowit will06:32
coolbhaviwith 512MB ram 3 ghz PD06:32
holycowi have a umpc06:33
holycow800mhz cpu that scales down to 600mhz06:33
holycowgeneric intel video acceleration06:33
holycow1 gig ram06:33
holycowcompiz is super fast on it06:33
holycowno glitches, drag or tare (as there shouldun't be with offscreen compositing anyway)06:33
nevilleBecause, even though it's dodgey at heart, it's very lite06:33
holycowthey really have done an amazing job at showing just what can be done with offscreen compositing with properly accelerated ogl hardware06:35
nevilleIt's amazing on the whole, isn't it?06:39
holycowyeah i'm really enjoying the creativity of the whole thing.  the plugins are really amazing too06:40
holycowhowever as of kde4, warts and all, i'm sold on kwin and where its going06:40
holycowi think the kde level integration is the right way to do that imho06:41
nevilleAnd, it can only get better, which gets me jumpy, and makes me hate time for moving so slowly06:42
holycowi'm just so jazzed by the whole kde infrastructure after 406:43
nevilleHey, maybe that means we should find some direction in our lives, before we start living only for each release of KDE :P06:43
holycowwith all the plasma things happening ... if someone were to say sell a flash like ide for creating plasma widgets, kwin animations, etc, i would pay lots of money for it06:44
nevilleOh yeah, I'd do the same, but I'd also have to pay for some creativity -_-v06:44
holycowwell i wish i was better with code06:45
holycowneville: did you know plasma widgets can be publised on the web?06:46
holycowi have no idea how this would work but i presume they would be flashlike in nature as they use a plugin on ff of some sort06:46
holycowplasma is supposed to be able to natively handle osx widgets too06:46
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:57
guardianis it known that the installer on hardy alpha 4 doesn't work07:57
jussi01guardian: #ubuntu+1 for all hardy issues07:58
guardianas well as for kubuntu issues ?08:03
jussi01guardian: correct. everything hardy goes there08:05
rocketsAnybody here running Kubuntu x64 on the desktop and if so how usable are you finding it?08:08
voicucan someone help me with a router configured with iptables? it's working on some machines and it doesn't on others08:11
patrick_Hallo! I have a major konqueror problem: Everytime I surf to a https site konqueror asks me where I want to save the site instead of displaying it... WHAT IS WRONG?!08:11
voicushall i post the script on a pastebin?08:11
voicupatrick_: your dependencies are wrong, open control center and go at kde components->file associations08:12
patrick_voicu: and what do I have to change there?08:14
voicutype html in the filter box above08:14
voicuyou will get at least 2 results (at least on my comp): application: xhtml+xml and text: html08:15
patrick_voicu: konqueror is at top. And http works. However all https sites... are wrong08:15
voicuhmm, then it could be a kio slave problem08:16
voicupatrick_: try asking in #kde08:17
patrick_voicu: thanks I'll try there08:18
Jucatohm.. he didnt go into #kde though...08:19
* Jucato was about to ask whether his Embedding settings for those filetypes are correct... as well as the left-click action08:19
voicuyeah, good point08:20
Jucatothen there's the Component Chooser settings "Open http and https URLs"...08:20
guardianif i install the kubuntu kde 4 live cd on my hdd, will it update and match 8.04 ?08:29
tomahasamoothow can I re-start a process that I stopped in bash using ctrl-z?08:40
emilsedghyoure not restarting that, youre bringing it to front, but i never was stopped, like windows in graphical system, when you minimize, they dont stop08:41
tomahasamootfg: usage: fg [job_spec]   does this want a PID?08:42
emilsedghnot pid08:43
emilsedghwhen you pressed ctrl+z it gives you a number08:43
tomahasamootso it's 'fg 1'08:44
tomahasamootthanks for the help08:44
Makuseruwhat do i need installed to install GNOME programs?08:48
psi_hi all08:53
psi_ have just installed kubuntu 7.10 and there was a load of updates so i let it get on with them half way through it crashed and now the update program doesnt run and i can't launch package manager as it says database in use even after a reboot08:54
rocketsw00t w00t kubuntu08:55
rocketshad to install the x64 version, my i386 version got scratched somehow08:56
psi_rockets: good luck with flash player08:56
rocketspsi_: flash player works jsut fine under firefox08:57
rocketspsi_: nspluginwrapper08:57
psi_i could never get the 64 bit version to work08:57
mikii can't configure monitor and display in hardy ?08:57
rocketsthere is no 64 bit flash player08:57
psi_thats cheating08:57
rocketsthats so not cheating.08:57
rocketsanyway i dont care about flash player08:57
rocketsim only using linux for work08:57
psi_fair enough08:58
rocketsi dont need flash player to set up an exchange server08:58
psi_rockets: u any good with kubuntu08:58
rocketspsi_: not really. ive been running ubuntu for like a year and just switched now to kubuntu08:58
psi_fair enough08:58
rocketsso far, it reminds me of windows 3.1 :-P08:58
c1|freakywhere are the backgrounds usually located? (desktop background pictures i meanb)08:58
psi_brb going to try a reboot again08:59
Fleckafter update nvidia restriced drivers ar not installed - i'm in console08:59
Fleckcan i set drivers up in konsole?08:59
psi_Fleck: yes if u download the nvifia drivers from there site08:59
Fleckpsi_ :D isn't there package?09:01
psi_probably summit like apt-get what ever but the nvidia drivers have always worked for mwe09:02
Tm_TFleck: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:03
Fleckthx Tm_T :)09:04
Tm_Tpsi_: we cannot support other than "our packages" ;)09:04
nevilleWhen I start a program via the command line, is there a way I can point that program to another xserver, so that when it starts, it'll start loading/running on the other display?09:05
emilsedghthere is a way that i cant remember :(09:06
llutzneville: set DISPLAY correctly09:06
nevillellutz sorry if I sound stupid, but I don't quite understand what you mean >.>09:07
llutzyou need to set the env-variable DISPLAY09:07
jasonfleck: here is a guide to reinstall the nvidia drivers after an update http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68519609:07
Fleckthanks jason - reading ;))09:08
nevillellutz would you be able to point me in the right direction with that? I have a rough idea of what that means, but no idea about how to apply it09:08
llutzneville: to use your 1st local running xserver you need to set "DISPLAY=:0", the 2nd would be "DISPLAY=:1" and so on. Remote servers are "DISPLAY=machinename:0" etc09:11
llutzneville: and of course you must have the right to open apps there (xauthority)09:11
nevillellutz: Okay, thanks alot for the help =]09:11
nevilleYeah, that's taken care of, it was just getting it setup that was the problem09:12
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psi_hi again has any one got a link to a web page that has a list of usefull repositories?09:25
Sbucatone:) well where is location for trash ?09:27
Sbucatoneis in my home ?09:27
Sbucatonei need of trash's path09:28
_Angelus_i made a website with apache209:29
_Angelus_and its giving me a permision error when i go to my website, its saying that i dont have permision to go to /09:30
_Angelus_the website is in /home/angelus/public_html09:30
Fleck_Angelus_ add index.html09:30
_Angelus_i have it :/09:31
Fleckthen make it readable by other users09:31
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_Angelus_Fleck: what user and group should my public_html folder be?09:36
Fleckyour - but theres is third - other09:36
Fleckuser group and other09:36
vertigo_hi all! Please help me to write console command or bash script: I have the path  /home/user/, I need to copy all files from this directory and all sub-directories (without dirnames only files) to /home/user2??09:39
Sbucatonemm i have my trash icons :) but it too short , but i selected 256 pixel icons why is so short ?09:39
Sbucatonemm sorry i have made a new link to my trash in my desktop, and i have selected damned icons at 256 pixel but it look like 64 pixel09:41
Sbucatonewhhy ?09:41
se7en_how do i get my wifi card working09:44
Sbucatonese7en_: wifi is a nightmare if you have a bad card :)09:46
Sbucatonese7en_: which cad do you have ?09:46
Sbucatoneusb or pci ?09:46
se7en_Sbucatone: pci Intel wireless 496509:49
Sbucatonese7en_: well is a intel it's a luck  plz iwconfig in a terminal use paste bin  to post results09:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:49
Sbucatonese7en_: are you alive ?09:52
Fleckok got drivers - nvdia.ko nvidia_legacy.ko and nvidia_new.ko - i need new, but kubuntu loads on starup nvidia.ko :/09:52
Fleckwhy is that?09:52
SbucatoneFleck: maybe because is not loaded in modules check it out09:53
Flecki should add nvidia_new in /etc/modules ?09:53
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SbucatoneFleck: i am not sure , but for my experience, i will try to load in modules . BUT I AM NOT SURE i have not nvidia09:54
Fleckok i will try09:54
FleckSbucatone no luck - still nvidia ;) not nvidia_new09:57
Flecki will try to blacklist nvidia09:58
SbucatoneFleck: have you edited xorg ?09:59
Fleckit's nothing about xorg10:00
Fleckjust wrong module10:00
Sbucatoneok perferct10:00
Flecknvidia is old version - nvidia_new is new one - for my xorg glx version10:00
Fleckand when old loads - xorg dosn't work because of version missmatch10:01
SbucatoneFleck: have you followen some tutorial ? wiki ?10:01
Sbucatonewell i think you must consider to follow someone10:01
Makuseruhi, whenever i try to start VisualBoyAdvance-gtk it says "bash: visualboyadvance-gtk: command not found" but i know i have it installed because when i try to install it again i get "10:01
Makuseruvisualboyadvance-gtk is already the newest version."10:01
Flecki blacklisted nvidia and now nvidia_new is loaded :)10:01
Makuseruwhat could stop this from opening?10:02
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php10:02
Makuserunothing on it there10:02
jasonmakuseru, are you using ./visualboyadvance-gtk10:03
SbucatoneFleck: :) well10:03
yolnizzleplease can some one give me some repo codes to get games on a kubuntu10:03
SbucatoneFleck: to know, but you have loaded in modules ? right ?10:03
Makuserujason: no, im not10:03
SbucatoneFleck: then blacklisted older module right ?10:04
jasonyolnizzle, the games package is called kde-games, so you can sudo apt-get install kde-games, if that's what you're looking for10:04
FleckSbucatone yep i have in /etc/modules too - dunno if that works but ;)10:04
FleckSbucatone blacklist nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist10:04
SbucatoneFleck: well done :)10:04
Fleckand new module is called nvidia_new10:04
Fleckmodprobe nvidia is old10:05
Fleckmodprobe nvidia_new is new one10:05
SbucatoneFleck: yes i know it was because i have intel card and so it's a bit better supported10:05
Sbucatoneand i was no sure10:05
jasonmakusaru, well, try it10:05
Makuserujason: bash: ./visualboyadvance-gtk: No such file or directory10:05
xstAre there made any effort at all to fix bug #181453? It doesn't seem so even though it is a fairly important bug. Can anyone explain this?10:05
yolnizzlejason, my link is bad is the no code like [ apt-get dosbox ] for example10:05
jasonyolnizzle, i'm not sure what you mean10:07
yolnizzlejason, my link is bad is there no code i could use to get a specific game without downloadin the whole kde pack10:08
SlimeyPetexst: perhaps best to ask in #kubuntu+1 or #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-bugs10:10
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu10:11
SlimeyPetejust #ubuntu+1 then I guess10:11
jasonyonizzle, I don't think that's possible with the kde package10:12
gundam_rx78nt1I have a computer with an amd64 processor.  I was wondering if I should install the 64bit version of kubuntu or the 32bit.  What are the differences and what would be the pro's and con's of either or?10:20
SlimeyPete64bit allows you to use more than 3GB of RAM.10:20
SlimeyPeteand there's a slight performance increase, but it's not generally noticable.10:20
gundam_rx78nt1well, I currently have only 2 GB on it. so that isn't a problem.10:20
SlimeyPete64bit has slightly worse software support (e.g. flash), but there are workarounds for this10:21
SlimeyPeteI'd go with 32bit if I were you, though 64bit will still be OK.10:21
gundam_rx78nt1SlimeyPete: where can I get those workarounds so I can read them and make a sound decision?10:21
SlimeyPetegundam_rx78nt1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20253710:22
SlimeyPeteyou have to install and run 32-bit firefox, then install the flash plugin in that.10:22
SlimeyPete(as far as I understand it)10:23
gundam_rx78nt1Thanks.  Now I do have one complaint:why are things broken from Fiesty to Gutsy?  KDM theme manager, no able to change the resolution anything higher than 640x480 in virtual terminals (CTRL+ALT+F[1-6]), etc?10:24
gundam_rx78nt1why break something that isn't broken?10:25
sebastian^hi @ all10:26
SlimeyPetegundam_rx78nt1: no idea about that, sorry - I'm not a developer.10:26
SlimeyPetesebastian^: hi.10:27
val0anyone here uses mutt as email client?10:27
gundam_rx78nt1well, I am bothered that everything on my system was working fine until the upgrade to Gutsy.10:28
guardianif i install the kubuntu kde 4 live cd on my hdd, will it update and match 8.04 ?10:29
DreadKnightguardian: there isn't a kubuntu kde4 live cd, perhaps in about a week...10:29
guardianthere is10:29
DreadKnightbut yep, it should match ...10:30
DreadKnightguardian: since when?10:30
guardiansince the release10:30
guardiani'm referring to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php10:30
DreadKnighti was thinking of hardy10:31
guardianah yeah well i tried hardy but indeed it's not kde410:31
DreadKnightwell guardian, i say you wait a week for that one... i'm doing so myself10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-game - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:33
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psi_any one got a clue how to install kde 410:36
yolnizzlethe kde-games apt-get says package not found10:36
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:37
phobos_ma ktos KDE 410:37
inter_Народ. Кто-нибудь помочь может с пхп?10:38
phobos_aha wszytstkorozumiem10:38
apparlehow to use apt-zip10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:43
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:43
kieferPlease dont abuse the bot :)10:45
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jussi01!nickspam > gladier10:49
gladierother than the fact that nobody has said anything for 10 mins10:50
knioletman just updated to kde 4.0.1 from 4.0.0 and now kontact doesnt start :-/10:55
jussi01kniolet: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 :)10:57
knioletah thanks didnt know that one existed :-)10:57
c0rle0n3hi there,11:10
c0rle0n3does anyone knows where I can download php5.2.5 exec file for kubuntu?11:10
c0rle0n3I'm get serious problem here with default version, which is php5.2.111:11
c0rle0n3I tryed by apt-get update, but still with 5.2.111:11
Nightrosehi - I don´t get the login screen any longer when booting, just a console login - can someone help me find the problem - I am out of ideas11:13
c0rle0n3Nightrose: do you know where can I download php5 for kubuntu?11:15
c0rle0n3there is no packages.kubuntu.org11:15
apparlec0rle0n3: All the packages for all the versions of ubuntu (Kubuntu,Xubuntu etc) are there at packages.ubuntu.com11:16
apparlec0rle0n3: Just don't highlight people if you see them. Ask the question and anybody who knows the answer will reply11:17
c0rle0n3there is a way to download php5 package and all it's dependencies?11:19
SlimeyPetec0rle0n3: use adept or apt-get11:19
SlimeyPeteeg "sudo apt-get install php5"11:19
SlimeyPeteadept/apt-get are the main way to install things on kubuntu.11:19
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto11:19
c0rle0n3SlimeyPete: I used but it installs php5.2.1 version11:27
c0rle0n3it says it's newest version, and it's not true11:29
jussi01c0rle0n3: yes, it is true - it has the newest version in the ubuntu repositories. you need to compile it if you want a newer version11:30
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)11:30
SlimeyPeteit's the newest available. If you need a later version you'll need to compile it11:31
SlimeyPeteor wait for the next version of Kubuntu11:31
jussi01!info php5 hardy11:31
ubotuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.4-2ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB11:31
c0rle0n3my version is 5.2.111:31
c0rle0n3not this hardy11:31
c0rle0n3which I want to11:32
jussi01c0rle0n3: that one is in the next release of ubuntu11:32
SlimeyPetehardy is the next version of k/ubuntu11:32
SlimeyPeteif you need 5.2.4, you'll need to upgrade your OS to hardy.11:32
c0rle0n3there is no way to install it without upgrade my os?11:32
SlimeyPetecompile it.11:32
jussi01c0rle0n3: quite simply, you need to compile it. (or upgrade to hardy, which is still very alpha)11:33
c0rle0n3maybe tar -xvzf php...11:33
SlimeyPeteget the source from the php website and then compile it.11:33
c0rle0n3I did, it says  error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.11:33
c0rle0n3never saw this before11:34
SlimeyPeteyeah, you need to instal a c compiler11:34
SlimeyPetesudo apt-get install build-essential11:34
gundam_rx78nt1where can I get information on building a custom kernel using the config of the generic?  I just want to add support in 2 areas.11:38
c0rle0n3configure: error: xml2-config not found. Please check your libxml2 installation. libxml2 is already the newest version. libxml2 set to manual installed.11:38
c0rle0n3now I'm lost11:38
SlimeyPetec0rle0n3: probably best to ask in #php from this point onwards, to be honest11:41
SlimeyPetethey will know more about how to compile it11:41
jussi01!kernel | gundam_rx78nt111:42
ubotugundam_rx78nt1: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages11:42
Fleckc0rle0n3 install libxml2-dev package11:42
yolnizzleis there no cool kubuntu game for grabs with apt-get11:45
Fleckwhat kind of?11:45
Fleckdi you tried sauerbraten ?11:46
jasonyolnizzle, if your just looking for any game there's always frozenbubble11:46
yolnizzlewats d apt-get code11:46
Fleckcrack attack :)11:46
jasonsudo apt-get install frozenbubble11:47
yolnizzlei have crack attack11:47
jussi01!games | yolnizzle11:47
ubotuyolnizzle: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:47
Flecksudo apt-get install crack-attack11:47
Flecksudo apt-get install sauerbraten11:47
jussi01sudo apt-get install tremulous11:47
Flecksudo apt-get install foobillard11:48
yolnizzle10ks guys11:48
Flecksudo apt-get install wormux :D11:48
n1troanybody here with logitech mx518 mouse? i was just wondering if you could send me your xorg.conf file so i can see how you managed to get those buttons work11:48
Flecksudo apt-get install lincity-ng11:48
tekteensudo apt-get install neverball11:48
jussi01n1tro: I dont have that one (I have the mx1000), but you need to install btnx - I dont think its in the repos, google it11:50
jussi01alright alright, I think the games thing has been done :D11:50
jussi01n1tro: ole hyvä ;)11:50
Fleckyeah neverball rocks :)11:51
forgWould ubuntu autorecognise a new SATA HD. I'm using pci controller card (tried two just in case one was faulty), but neither gparted in ubuntu-installed nor the ubuntu install dvd recognise it. Do I need to type something to activated it? Thanks in advance. (the pci card is listed in lspci)11:51
jussi01forg: I dont know which module it might need, but you may need to modprobe it to get it working11:52
forgjussi01: thanks, if the card is listed as 01:07.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE RAID Controller (rev 50)11:53
forgin lspci, does that mean the module is already loaded?11:53
jussi01forg: I dont think it means that its loaded or not - just that the computer recognises the card is there11:57
forgjussi01: cool thanks11:57
jussi01forg: ahh, its raid...11:58
jussi01!raid | forg11:58
ubotuforg: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto11:58
forgjussi01:awesome thanks11:58
psi_hi all11:58
psi_i have just installed kde4 and want to know how to get compiz working with it11:59
jussi01psi_: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde412:00
n1trojussi01:  how should I use that btnx?12:01
jussi01n1tro: there is a guide included...12:01
n1troin the files?12:01
jussi01yeah, a readme somewhere there i think12:02
jussi01been a while since I installed/configured12:02
Nightrosehi - I don´t get the login screen any longer when booting, just a console login - can someone help me find the problem - I am out of ideas12:03
jussi01Nightrose: do you have any x at all?12:04
Nightrosejussi01: yes - when typing startx I can start kde12:05
NightroseI assume some config is borked12:05
Nightrosejust don´t know where to look12:05
jussi01have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??12:06
Nightrosenope will try now12:06
Nightrosejussi01: didn´t help :(12:13
psi_drool kde4 +compiz12:14
zooninoAnyone have a creative soundblaster external usb working on Kubuntu?12:26
n1trohey is there any way to adjust priority in kubuntu? because my processors aren't working 100% when i play wow12:28
n1troso it affects gameplay12:28
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:28
SlimeyPetewell, the "nice" command is what you want12:28
n1trowhat does it do?12:29
SlimeyPeteit sets process priority12:29
n1trooki :)12:29
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redheathi everyone12:30
redheatjust a quick help would be appreciated here12:30
redheatright now I'm writing from my laptop12:30
redheatI'm trying to install Kubuntu with KDE4 on my system, but after I have inserted the DVD and waited to login into the destkop manager nothing happened12:31
SlimeyPeteyou're probably best-off asking in #kubuntu-kde4. You'll need to be patient though - people don't watch IRC 24/7 so it may take a few minutes or longer to get an answer.12:32
n1troSlimeyPete:  the command nice doesn't work :E12:33
redheatslimeypete, the problem has nothing to do with KDE4, but with why the installation process didn't go straight to12:33
redheatto the GUI manager?12:33
redheatIt just hanged there12:33
redheatyou know that initial screen after you choose install KDE, where a lot of preinstalla scripts are initiated..12:34
redheatand then it flickered for a while, and it didn't log me in into the GUI, the funny thing, when I inserted the DVD into my laptop, I went to the GUI with no problems at all12:34
SlimeyPeten1tro: it doesn't? You mean it doesn't run?12:34
SlimeyPeteredheat: sounds like it's misrecognising your graphics card12:35
redheatthat's what I thought...NOt again I mean for crying out loud12:35
n1troi write "nice file:///home/n1tro/.wine/drive_c/Ohjelmatiedostot/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe" and nothing happens12:35
redheatthis is too much..12:35
redheatI just bought a new LCD Monitor and a new Graphics Card..12:35
redheatit is a DELL Ultrashartp 20" monitor, and the new 8800 GTX card..12:36
redheatSlimeyPete, what can I do to get around this, I just pressed enter on the desktop, and it got me to the Ubuntu command line12:36
SlimeyPeteredheat: 8800GTX might be too new for the nvidia drivers, I would suggest googling a bit ofind out about compatibility12:36
redheatand I looged in as root12:37
SlimeyPeteredheat: well, you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try enabling the "vesa" driver instead12:37
SlimeyPeten1tro: that's not how you use nice. Hang on, I'll find you a web page12:37
redheatwould this work, since I haven't installed Kubuntu?12:37
n1trowhy doesn't he just go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and just disable his current graphics drivers?12:38
redheatI was thinking of using the Safe graphics mode12:38
redheatn1tro, I haven't even installed Kubuntu yet, you know what I'm saying..12:38
SlimeyPeten1tro: try http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-change-process-priority-using-the-nice-command/12:38
n1trowtf :D12:38
redheatI mean this is happening right from the instlalation page12:38
SlimeyPeteredheat: should still work :) You can edit the file and then restart x.12:39
n1trowell that's very weird12:39
n1troSlimeyPete:  sorry but that link isn't working :D12:39
SlimeyPeteah right. It doesn't work for me either but I am having connection problems at the moment so lots of stuff doesn't work ;)12:40
SlimeyPeteI'll look for another12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ajuda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:40
n1trostupid kubuntu, everybody should know that wow has number one priority :D12:40
SlimeyPeteaha, google rocks12:40
SlimeyPetethat's the google-cache text12:41
n1trobut slimey that means i need to run that nice everytime12:42
n1troi play wow12:42
n1trothat's just stupid ;o12:42
redheatSlimey, you won't believe this, I just typed startx and it gave me fatal error..NO SCREENS FOUND would you believe that?12:42
redheatanyhow..gotta go and check for answer for this crap..12:43
redheatthank you so much SlimeyPete, and you too n1tro..12:43
redheatthank you folks..truly appreciate it..12:44
n1trolaters :)12:44
SlimeyPeten1tro: not really stupid - you couldn't do it automatically on any other OS either. I suggest writing a quick script or alias.12:46
n1trobtw what do you exasctly write? nice -20 wow.exe ?12:46
n1trobecause that doesn't seem to work12:47
SlimeyPetenice wow.exe -2012:48
SlimeyPeteor similar12:48
SlimeyPetewell, nice wow.exe -19   unless you're root12:49
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JerenmyeHi! After a update yesterday Firefox doesn't have Adobe Flash. In the topic is "The Flash plugin installation is currently broken". Is anyone fixing it?12:54
jussi01!flashissues | Jerenmye12:54
ubotuJerenmye: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. Fixes have landed in -proposed for testing, but most most users are advised to wait until packages are approved and released in -updates.12:54
sylvain-frHi !12:55
Jerenmyethanks ubotu bot12:56
mohdhave or no12:56
sylvain-frHas someone ever heard something about "multi seat" ?12:57
sylvain-frNobody ?12:58
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youlinhello : has any one used desktop sharing to a machine behind a firewall?12:59
dscorbinI can't resize my konsole window with the mouse, and I've not found the setting that controls it.  Pointers?13:00
jussi01dscorbin: weird, mine adjusts fine13:00
dscorbinjussi01: I don't even get the "two pointed cursor" when I move the mouse over the edge.13:01
dscorbinThere is Settings/Size menu, but I just want to be able to use the mouse, not set row/col counts13:02
n1troanybody know how to set nice -20 to wine?13:06
n1troor what ever programs wine uses13:06
n1trobecause i try to write "nice wine -20" but it doesn't accept it  and it doesn't accept "nice wow.exe -20" either13:06
xt828what's the -20 supposed to do?13:07
n1trogive it the maximum priority13:07
n1troover other programs13:07
xt828have you tried doing it through the KDE system guard?13:08
n1trobut i have no idea what you're talking about13:08
stefan_does someone know if yahoo has its own email blacklist servers?13:09
xt828in the K Menu, under system, there's an entry KSysGuard (Performance Monitor)13:09
xt828it's somewhat reminiscent of task manager in windows13:09
ndazzahi, how can i turn down the volume of kde system notifications?13:10
xt828you can re-nice processes there by rightclicking on the process and selecting "Renice" from the options13:10
n1trohey thanks :) i guess that will work fine13:11
JohnFluxn1tro: nice -20 wine13:11
JohnFluxn1tro: the order matters13:11
JohnFluxnice wine -20   would run "wine -20"13:12
n1troJohnFlux:  does it affect wow.exe the same way then?13:13
JohnFluxn1tro: yep13:13
JohnFluxn1tro: but13:13
JohnFluxn1tro: that doesn't mean it's a good idea :)13:13
n1troit doesn't ? :O13:13
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JohnFluxn1tro: if you give it a very high priority, then when will X get to run to actually display it? :-)13:14
n1troi have no idea..13:14
xt828annoyingly, the wine appdb is down at the moment, but when it comes back up, check there to see if there are any recommendations for running wow better13:15
JohnFluxn1tro: X will be your bottleneck as well.  you don't want the program to have a much higher niceness than X13:15
n1trookay i keep that in mind :D13:15
n1troso is 15 okay?13:15
xt828depends on what your X nice is13:15
xt828why do you want to increase its priority, anyway?13:16
gundam_rx78nt1smoother playing?13:16
elmargolHi, how can I change my default browser from lynx to firefox? (If I klick on a link on kopete it opens it using konsole + lynx)13:16
n1troxt828:  because for some reason my processors aren't working 100% when my wow is playing13:16
gundam_rx78nt1go to your kcontrol and change kde defaults13:16
kenalexwhy you guys choose kubuntu over ubuntu. does kubuntu have alot more features ?13:16
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gundam_rx78nt1kenalex, it's a preference thing.13:17
xt828i like kde more than i like gnome13:17
gundam_rx78nt1As you know, linux is about choice.13:17
xt828also, i like blue more than i like that orangey brown colour13:17
vedavoxI think KDE is a lot more customisable, and been using KDE since version113:18
gundam_rx78nt1vedaox, your dating yourself.  Anyway, so have I.13:18
elmargolKDE has every feature you don't need :D13:19
vedavoxelmargol: in kcontrol, go to defailt applications and set the default browser13:19
kenalexgundam_rx78nt1: so i see its about choice. its like going into a pizza parlor and having a million choices of what toppins you can have with that pizza :)13:19
elmargolvedavox: I don't have default applications there13:19
kenalexgundam_rx78nt1:right now i am doing some distro hopping13:20
vedavoxelmargol: do you have system settings? from the main k menu13:20
gundam_rx78nt1kenalex, I believe that many of us here have done that also.  I started with slackware back in 1993.13:20
gundam_rx78nt1100 floppy disks, 8 hours to install... the good ol' days...13:21
kenalexcool i hear that is one lean OS13:21
xt828n1tro, have a look at this for some wow-on-wine tips: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine13:21
gundam_rx78nt1now, I do prefer for setting up a server, I would go with gentoo. for desktop/laptop purpose, I prefer kubuntu.13:22
vedavoxI changed all my boxes to kubuntu a few months ago, had been on debian sid for the last 5 years13:22
gundam_rx78nt1I stay away from redhat.13:22
elmargolvedavox: No13:22
elmargolI have actions -> Settings -> control center13:22
gundam_rx78nt1elmargol: do Alt-F2 and type kcontrol.13:23
gundam_rx78nt1then look at the menu there.13:23
gundam_rx78nt1under kde components.13:23
gundam_rx78nt1you should find it there.13:23
kenalexi find fedora very easy to break13:23
ndazzan1tro: you're trying to improve wow performance?13:23
JohnFluxWhat does it mean if I have a load of 5, but no apps using any cpu?13:24
JohnFluxI'm guessing that means the kernel is using all the cpu13:24
JohnFluxbut no idea why13:24
vedavoxelmargol: click on web browser and just enter firefox in the box13:24
ndazzaJohnFlux: they're probably sleeping as soon as they try to use cpu, or perhaps something suddenly stopped taxing the cpu13:24
n1trondazza: it's not only that, my processors aren't using their full power when wow is running13:24
n1troso it lags13:24
elmargolthere is no "web browser" at KDE Components13:25
JohnFluxn1tro: newest video drivers?13:25
ndazzan1tro: wow won't max out more than 1 core13:25
elmargolndazza: not true13:25
ndazzan1tro: but i can point you to some recommendations to make wow faster13:25
vedavoxelmargol: under kde components, then default applications, then web browser13:25
n1troJohnFlux:  i guess so13:25
ndazzaelmargol: it will use 2 cores but it won't max them out13:25
ndazzaat least not under linux13:25
elmargolvedavox: I don't have defalt applications at kde components13:26
kenalexnitro:what class and race do you play in wow13:26
n1tromy processors are jumping from 50/50 to 100/1013:26
ndazzan1tro: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine#Performance_Tweaks13:26
n1trokenalex a troll shaman in dragonmaw D:13:26
ndazzatake special note of the registry edit, that made a huge difference for me13:27
ndazzanearly doubled my fps13:27
kenalexoh one of those melee demons13:27
vedavoxelmargol: do you have kubuntu installed, or running kopete under ubuntu?13:27
n1troi'm not melee, i'm resto13:27
n1troand i beat the servers best of any class in a duel :D13:27
elmargolvedavox: I have ubuntu and kubuntu installed13:27
vedavoxelmargol: sounds like you do not have the full kubuntu installed, hold on a sec13:28
elmargolyes I only have kdebase13:28
gundam_rx78nt1elmargol: did kcontrol open for you?13:28
elmargolgundam_rx78nt1: yes13:28
n1trondazza:  do you use that script that gives more fps?13:28
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, I am logging into my box, give me a sec.13:29
n1trokenalex:  where do you play?13:29
ndazzan1tro: script? no13:29
ndazzan1tro: in theory it might help, especially if you kill all your x sessions beforehand13:29
ndazzan1tro: but if you have gigs of ram and dual core or better it probably won't make much difference13:29
elmargolvedavox: Yes I think I'm missing some kde components13:30
n1trothe real problem isn't power :D13:30
ndazza(i have gigs of ram and dual core, so i didn't bother)13:30
n1troit's just that my computer refuses to use that power on linux13:30
kenalexnitro: i played a dwarf paladin on hakkar. have stop playing for about a year now13:30
gundam_rx78nt1elmargol: when you click on kde components, what do you get listed?13:30
ndazzan1tro: see this thread on the processorAffinityMask config flag as well http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778017311&sid=113:30
elmargolFile Associations, File Manager, Kde Performance, Kde resources, service manager, session manager, spell checker13:31
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde413:31
gundam_rx78nt1then you are missing stuff...13:32
vedavoxelmargol: try installing the kdebase package should put then in for you13:32
n1trobtw ndazza what program do you use for your linux to detect those extra buttons if your mouse?13:33
n1tro*in your mouse13:33
ndazzan1tro: i only use 5 buttons (ie 3 plus scroll wheel)13:34
ndazzai have another 2 but i don't use them13:34
ndazzathere's guides on the net to enabling them but i haven't bothered13:34
n1trothose two buttons are like MUST for me13:35
n1troi'm missing like 6 spells that don't work in wow because i have two buttons linux doesn't recognize13:35
gundam_rx78nt1elmargol: you can also change the file associations for htm to firefox.13:35
gundam_rx78nt1I just did it on my box.13:36
BluesKajhowdy all :)13:36
ndazzan1tro: find those guides :) it's not so hard to set up i think13:36
n1troit actually is.. for me atleast :/13:37
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c0rle0n3how do I update my apt repos?13:37
ndazzan1tro: last time i did it i just made some config file13:37
ndazzaor maybe i found a setup just for my mouse... i forget :p13:37
elmargolgundam_rx78nt1: thx this works!13:38
FaiDillinGeranyone knows how i acan get kopete to open firefox instead of konqueror when i check out my mails in my hotmail account ??13:38
gundam_rx78nt1that is the good thing about linux, there is more than one way to skin a windows box...13:38
vedavoxndazza, you can enable them in Xorg.conf if its a standard mouse13:39
yolnizzleright click on the link it should bring out an open with firefox dialogue13:39
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jasonfai, are you using kde?13:40
gundam_rx78nt1FaiDillinGer: kcontrol > KDE components > Default Applications > Web Browser > type in fire fox...13:40
BluesKajFaiDillinGer, set the default browser in system settings/default applications and in the terminal: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser13:41
FaiDillinGerthx BluesKaj : its already set in system settings. ill do it for the terminal13:42
FaiDillinGerlol kopete still opens konqueror to check out the hotmail account. btw everything else works with firefox but this13:44
BluesKajFaiDillinGer, the terminal setting tries to make the default broser a global setting unless otherwise chosen in an application13:44
FaiDillinGerBluesKaj: fine13:44
BluesKajlike kopte,13:44
BluesKajyou may have to configure kopete on it's own13:45
BluesKajsame goes for konversation and most other apps that are linkable to URLs thru a browse13:45
BluesKajKB is mucking up here13:46
christianphi all13:46
BluesKajprolly too many coffee spills on it13:46
christianpproblems with noatun, i try playing a small .vaw file, but it seems not to work. any ideas?13:46
BluesKajchristianp, does the wav file appear to play, but without audio13:47
gundam_rx78nt1my amarok is choppy on play back of mp3's.  this started after upgrading to Gutsy.  Xmms plays the files fine... any ideas?13:47
vedavoxgundam_rx78nt1: using moodbar in amarok?13:48
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BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, reinstall  libxine1-ffmpeg13:48
gundam_rx78nt1no, just standard installation.13:48
gundam_rx78nt1libxine1-ffmpeg?  Ok.13:48
gundam_rx78nt1I will do that once I get home.  I can ssh and do that but I can't test it for another 3 hours.13:49
gundam_rx78nt1BluesKaj: is this from experience?13:49
BluesKajno, it's new in amarok in gutsy13:50
vedavoxOn another forum someone else was saying choppy sound in amarok, but kaffeine worked fine13:51
BluesKajmine wouldn't play mp3s at all , not that I care :) ...strictly wav or lossless for this guy13:51
vedavoxthey were using mandriva though13:51
gundam_rx78nt1has anybody else experienced this: vga=791 or if using the hex code, you will get a blank screen in the virtual terminals (ALT+F1-6).13:51
gundam_rx78nt1during booting.13:52
c0rle0n3How to  update php 5.2.1 to 5.2.513:52
c0rle0n3I'm using kubuntu 7 with has default instalation of apache2 and php5.2.113:52
gundam_rx78nt1I was wondering if someone had a fix for this13:52
BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, that's the std setting for TTY prompts from F1 - F613:52
BluesKajF7 returns the desktop13:53
vedavoxc0rle0n3: check the backports or hardy repos, else compile by hand13:53
gundam_rx78nt1what do you mean?  I only get a blank screen. no login prompt. now if I just let it boot up without the vga statement in my grub menu.lst file, then I get 640x480 display instead of 1024x768.13:54
gundam_rx78nt1which the vga statement is used.13:54
ahmosHi,there is for example a program for kde and another same program for kde4,which I should install?13:54
c0rle0n3vedavox: how I do that?13:54
vedavoxahmos: if you are using kde3, use the kde3 version13:55
Emiliano  òò13:56
BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, sounds like you have to reset you xorg.config file resolution settings , some timea amonitor driver upgrade will help or : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg13:56
vedavoxc0rle0n3: just checked, hardy has 5.2.4, unless you want to install from the source yourself, you will have to wait until it hits the repos13:57
BluesKajerr sorry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg13:57
gundam_rx78nt1BluesKaj: it was working fine 2 weeks ago when I had Feisty installed.  I just upgraded to Gutsy and since then, it doesn't work.  I have removed and reconfigured my xorg.conf file many times to no avail.13:58
vedavoxgundam_rx78nt1: I had a problem like that, thinking of going back to using LiLo, its a lot easier13:58
ahmosthank's vendavox13:58
gundam_rx78nt1LiLo... (shudders)... it's been so long since the lilo days...13:58
FaiDillinGerBluesKaj:  i found out how to make kopete check out hotmail with firefox. in kcontrol, i made the 1st application for text/html to be firefox13:58
BluesKajFaiDillinGer, cool :)13:59
vedavoxgundam_rx78nt1: I was using it until 5 months ago on debian, this new fangled grub nonsense :P13:59
BluesKajgood to know13:59
christianpsorry, BluesKaj, i was googling for solutions ;)14:00
BluesKajI liked LILO , it was easier14:00
gundam_rx78nt1vedavox: I believe it's a kernel issue.  It's reported and confirmed as a bug.14:00
christianpBluesKaj: it seems it's interrupted but no sounds played14:00
gundam_rx78nt1I was wondering if someone has found a fix for it.14:00
vedavoxtime to go14:01
gundam_rx78nt1with my luck no developers are here to answer that question.14:01
BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, maybe a monitor driver / graphics card driver check may be in order ...I had to revert to the restricted driver in system settings /advanced to get DRI and 3D working on this pc14:02
BluesKajafter installing gutsy14:03
BluesKajchristianp, try a cd , something that you know has audio on it14:05
nareshovHi, what's 'knotify4'? Must it be running all the time? (It's consuming a lot of memory)14:06
BluesKajnareshov, adept notifier ?14:07
SlimeyPeteno, knotify is a kde thing14:07
SlimeyPeteit sends notification events when stuff happens (though I'm not sure exactly what its function is)14:08
SlimeyPeteyes, it probably does need to be running but it shouldn't be eating RA14:08
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BluesKajSlimeyPete, hmm according to Softpedia : Knotify for Pidgin is a plugin for the Pidgin chat client that uses Knotify to do notifications. This is for those who like pidgin but don't like the lack of KDE integration.14:18
stefan_is there a chance to get kontact running with M$ exchange 200314:19
nosrednaekimstefan_: yes, I think the kontact in Kubuntu does support exchange14:19
stefan_okay , but how?14:19
RogueJediXCould somebody be so kind as to point me to a guide to setting up japanese character input?14:20
BluesKajknotify is prolly more applicable to  this : http://lukeplant.me.uk/articles.php?id=314:20
stefan_I searched the web and kontact but can not find a way?14:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kontact - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:20
stefan_Can someone help?14:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exchange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:20
nosrednaekimstefan_: unfortunately,no.... did you try looking at the inbuilt kontact docs?14:20
stefan_no, where can I find them?14:20
nosrednaekimstefan_: in kontact->help->kontact handbook or something like that14:21
stefan_hmm nothing with exchange14:23
kenalexhave you guys read this article : http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html14:25
stefan_I also tried evolution, there is something with exchange but getting the error the the url is not correct, but it is!14:25
nosrednaekimkenalex: thats old news :)14:27
kenalexhehe :)14:27
kenalexnew to me :)14:27
redheathi everyone14:28
redheatneed some help if possible, I just installed Kubuntu with KDE4, finally, and  I was wondering how can I get it conneted to the internet..14:28
nosrednaekimredheat: are you using wired?14:29
redheatnope, wireless14:29
nosrednaekimredheat: encrypted?14:29
nosrednaekimredheat: wpa or wep?14:30
nosrednaekimok, this is a bit difficult, so let me find you a tutorial.14:30
redheatthank you..14:30
nosrednaekimthe first thing you should do after getting this woking is go get knetworkmanager ;)14:31
redheatnosrednaekim, I have better idea can you show me how to allow administrator login ?14:33
nosrednaekimredheat: "sudo -i"14:34
redheatI did that..14:34
redheatI was talking about logging in with an adiministrator account..14:34
nosrednaekimoh.. you mean running GUI apps that require root priveledges?14:34
redheatno no14:34
redheatI mean loggin in from the login windows with a root account14:35
nosrednaekimredheat: oh, right, then run "sudo passwd root"14:35
redheatI did that too14:35
redheatbut it tells me no administrator login allowed14:35
kenalexdo any of you guys use the 64 bit version of kubuntu14:35
redheatdo you remember that windows in Ubuntu gives you the option to14:35
nosrednaekimoh... X might not be letting root user log in (for security reasons)14:35
grulsudo su14:35
redheatnope, sorry only 32 bit14:35
nosrednaekimkenalex: yes14:35
redheatsudo su?14:36
gundam_rx78nt1redheat, change your kde profile config file. you will find a line that say root login = false14:36
nosrednaekimredheat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57118814:36
BluesKajkenalex, i did but switched to x86 , due to graphics card probs14:36
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1: where is this file?14:36
kenalexi am noticing that flash isn't available for the 64 bt version14:37
gundam_rx78nt1should be in /etc/kde if I am not mistaken.14:37
gundam_rx78nt1give me a moment and let me check.14:37
BluesKajkenalex, yeah , but you can around that by installing ia32libs14:37
redheatnosrednaekim, wasn't there a wi-fi wizard that made it easy to configure the wi-fi network?14:37
kenalexoh ok14:38
BluesKajerr grt14:38
redheatI remember last time I used a wi-fi wizard and it get me through all that with no command line..of course thank you so much for your help14:38
nosrednaekimredheat: yes, but its kde3.... you have to install it manually after you get internet(which admittedly needs to be fixed)14:38
BluesKaj&#$@** KB !14:38
nosrednaekimredheat: the kde4 liveCD was not really intended to be installed14:39
redheatI thought so14:39
gundam_rx78nt1you would need to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file.14:39
gundam_rx78nt1look for the line AllowRootLogin=false and change it to true.14:39
snarkstermorning all14:39
redheatanyhow...thank you so much for your help truly truly appreciate your help..14:39
redheatmorning to you too14:40
gundam_rx78nt1you will be able to log into kde as root then.14:40
redheatyou all take care and have a nice day14:40
snarksteranyone know how to see what services are running in console more?14:40
nosrednaekimsnarkster: ps -ax14:40
snarksterthank you14:40
gundam_rx78nt1nosrednaekim: did you get that info?14:40
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1: yeah... thanks, I don't need it personally, but its nice to know :)14:41
snarksteri am at a total loss then.. network manager just not working and I cant get kde3 version to install..14:42
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nosrednaekimsnarkster: install regular Ubuntu ;)14:43
snarksterno thank you14:43
snarkstergnome is yucky14:43
nosrednaekimsnarkster: then install kde414:43
snarksterI thought Id be smart and install kde4... now I cant go wireless.14:43
snarksterand iwconfig doesnt use passphrases14:44
nosrednaekimyes it can...14:44
gundam_rx78nt1what about the Knetwork manager.14:44
nosrednaekimoh.... WPA?14:44
snarksternah just crappy WEP14:44
snarksterknetwrok manager is the problem14:44
gundam_rx78nt1did you click on manual?14:45
nosrednaekimsnarkster: it certainly can! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57118814:45
snarksteritll start after I tell it to start, but will not connect and does not see my networks14:45
gundam_rx78nt1what is your iwconfig outpur?14:45
gundam_rx78nt1sorry, output.14:45
snarksterit doesnt give much output..14:45
snarksterima go read this manual nosrednaekim sent, brb14:46
gundam_rx78nt1ok, do an iwconfig. see if there are wireless extensions shown.14:46
n1troanybody using btnx ?14:46
gundam_rx78nt1then do an ifconfig and see if the card is up or down.14:46
gundam_rx78nt1if it is down, you won't see any networks.14:46
snarksteri get output.. brb14:47
FaiDillinGeranyone got any problem with ralink wifi ?? mine wont work for more than 5 minutes14:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:50
ubuntuhi @ll14:53
martijn81hi there ubuntu14:54
gundam_rx78nt1be well and merry ubuntu.14:54
ubuntumy question: how can i create a boot cd of linux??14:54
nosrednaekimubuntu: you might want to try remaster14:55
nosrednaekim!search remaster14:55
gundam_rx78nt1snarkster:  any luck yet?14:56
snarksterholy crappers it worked14:56
gundam_rx78nt1what worked?  my advice?14:56
darkalienhey leute hab nen problem mit meiner externen14:56
snarksterThank you nosrednaekim and gundam_rx78nt114:56
darkalienis das hier gut oder schlecht?EXT3-fs: error loading jour14:56
ubuntusituation: i got a linux (knoppicillin) of a magazine (called "c't" of heise), but i want to create an image of it without other data (just: /boot;/koppix)14:57
gundam_rx78nt1snarkster, just one suggestion: on knetwork manager, do not click on manual configuration... unless you are connecting to trusted networks.14:58
gundam_rx78nt1If you do... I had to delete the config file in order to get auto detection up and running again.14:59
snarksterwell right now knetworkmanager isnt working worth a damn15:00
LinaLoveanyone got advice on what to use for transferring files bigger than 1gb? got my laptop (vista) connected to the tower but winscp wont let me move files with that size15:03
nosrednaekimLinaLove: I think you can get ssh for vista.15:03
LinaLovethanks, i'll do some research on that :P15:04
ubuntuwhat is remaster (a command??)15:04
nosrednaekimLinaLove: and if its from linux->windows, use the kde fie transfer daemon (it makes a nice little remote web page)15:05
nosrednaekimubuntu: its a program.... google it15:05
ubuntuok, thx i was searchen in the shell for a man :)15:06
LinaLovewanted to move files from vista to kubuntu15:06
LinaLoveusing winscp15:06
nosrednaekimLinaLove: samba?15:07
LinaLovenever heard of that :S using kubuntu since friday :D15:07
SlimeyPetewinscp should cope with big files just fine O.o15:08
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:08
SlimeyPetesamba == Windows File Sharing, basically.15:08
snarksterthat page with all the wifi stuff on it is a keeper... bookmarked that bad boy cause I know Ill need it15:08
snarksterGotta get dressed.. intereview in 2 hours15:08
snarksterthanks again15:09
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LinaLovethanks SlimeyPete (:15:09
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n1troAnyone else here using BTNX?15:13
lontrahow would i run suspend from konsole w/ guidance-power-manager?  the buttons don't work properly in kde415:14
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen15:16
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ubuntui just found ideas to remaster a complete ubuntu distribution15:21
ubuntui new15:21
ubuntuthats hardcorestuff for me ;)15:21
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:22
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ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot15:23
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Pentarexhi guys :)15:27
Pentarexcan u tell me other web browser exept konquer15:27
Pentarexok but how to install firefox when its .tar.gz15:28
Pentarexi try with run-mozila,sh15:28
SlimeyPetePentarex: use adept15:28
Pentarexbut nothing happens15:28
SlimeyPeteor apt-get15:28
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto15:28
jussi01Pentarex: firefox is in the repositories15:28
Pentarexi try but :)15:28
Pentarexjussi01: ooo i will try right now15:28
jussi01Pentarex: epiphany also15:29
Pentarexsudo apt-get install firefox :)15:29
Pentarexand its downloading15:29
Pentarex10nx guys15:29
Pentarexkonqueror its little buggy :P15:29
jussi01Pentarex: always check the repositories before downloading something off the net15:29
Pentarexok 10nx i forgot :)15:30
Pentarexis there someone from Bulgaria here ?15:30
Pentarexno one :P15:31
ubotuопитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently15:31
Pentarexwhat is the different from ctrl+alt+F1 and konzole from kmenu15:32
stdinkonsole runs in X15:33
SlimeyPetePentarex: konsole runs in a window in the graphical environment.15:33
Pentarexaa :)15:33
SlimeyPeteif you hit ctrl-alt-f1 you temporarily leave the graphical environment entirely.15:34
Pentarexand ctrl+alt+f7 back in15:34
Pentarexthanks again15:34
SlimeyPetethe general rule is "use konsole unless your graphics are broken" :)15:34
FridolfOr you're going to do anything that might fiddle with X15:35
Fridolflike installing display drivers :)15:35
BluesKajand then there are the CLI junkies who think GUIs are for Linux imposters15:36
Pentarex10nx alot for the answer15:36
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FridolfOn the subject of consoles, I think I remember that you could save the console in ram and scroll through it somehow15:38
Pentarexok one more question15:38
Pentarexis there program like photoshop ?15:38
Fridolfbut I can't remember how to do it? almost sure I did on fedora once15:38
Fridolfyes, gimp15:38
Pentarexa 10nx15:38
SlimeyPeteFridolf: shift-pgup? Or use screen.15:38
niall_is KDevelop any good?15:38
Fridolfphotoshop is almost perfectly runnable in wine too, except some plugins15:39
Fridolfhmm okej15:39
FridolfI'll try it :)15:39
SlimeyPeteniall_: it seems popular, but for me it crashes an awful lot15:39
dewitti am running kubuntu fiesty, adept crashed and went away now it is saying it is still open. tell me how to close it.15:39
Pentarexwinex (cedega) is it good ?15:39
SlimeyPetePentarex: it's OK, but normal wine is just as good for most things (and sometimes better)15:39
Fridolfcedega is really crappy if you ask me, wine works alot better15:39
SlimeyPetecrossoveroffice is pretty good.15:39
niall_SlimeyPete: I'm going to be using it for PHP development incidentally, is it worth it?15:39
Fridolfjust google wine and you'll find download links15:40
Pentarexand what is this folder lost+found on my sda2 its like 9 gb15:40
SlimeyPeteniall_: haven't tried it for PHP. It's probably worthwhile if your project is quite large. Personally I use Quanta.15:40
Pentarexsudo apt-get install wine :)15:40
Fridolfyeah but that's probably old versions15:40
niall_SlimeyPete: Quanta?15:40
Fridolfbut you can add a updated repo from winehq15:40
SlimeyPetePentarex: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/15:41
FridolfPhotoshop only works okay in the latest wine version which is 0.9.54 or something like that15:41
SlimeyPeteniall_: I think it's in the repos. It's an IDE for web development.15:41
SlimeyPeteniall_: it's very nice.15:41
n1troanybody know how to get ventrilo fun on kubuntu?15:42
Fridolfyeah I know15:42
Fridolfwhat do you need help with?15:42
BluesKajFridolf, I trust the older versions , some apps aren't ready for some setups and ppl have more trouble than it's worth using the so called "Newer & Better" versions15:42
n1troFridolf:  talkin' to me? :D15:42
batis610i want to find a link was given to me few days ago on this room .... did konversation client keep history or not?15:42
Fridolfyes I do :)15:42
PentarexSlimeyPete: ok its for linux crashes :)15:42
n1troFridolf:  well i just want to talk to my friends over ventrilo ^^15:42
PentarexSlimeyPete: 10nx15:43
SlimeyPetePentarex: basically, yes15:43
FridolfBluesKaj: although with wine it's not like that, because wine is pretty beta and newer usually is better15:43
bjwebbhi, loads of new kde updates15:43
n1trobut i tried using  ventrilo with wine but it was complaining about codecs15:43
bjwebbhas this got a name?15:43
Pentarexbut why in sda2 not in sda115:43
bjwebblike 4.0.1 or something?15:43
niall_4.0.1 is out yeah15:43
BluesKajbatis610, what app are you researching ?15:44
SlimeyPetePentarex: dunno, maybe fsck has never done anything to sda115:44
niall_4.1 is due out in July15:44
Fridolfoh man, there's a good ventrilo guide on appdb on winehq but appdb is down as USUAL!15:44
n1trowell mind giving me the link so i'll check it later?15:44
Fridolfanyway the codec you need is in w32codecs from medibuntu15:44
PentarexSlimeyPete: man the text editor in gimp is alwful15:45
Fridolfinstall w32codecs15:45
FridolfYou'll find the codev in /usr/lib/codecs/msgsm32.acm15:46
batis610BluesKaj: my question is: how can i find my conversation history on 'Konversation client'?15:46
Fridolfcopy or link it to the wine windows/system32 directory15:46
BluesKajPentarex, try gimpshop/windows version..it runs better in wine on my setup, than gimpshop linux15:46
roflsomebody knows how to get the startmenu as displayed in vixta.org (looks vistaish) in kubuntu ?15:47
n1troFridolf:  i find the codecs where..?15:47
BluesKajbatis610, you have to turn logging on in konversation ...it will save the text ...unfortunately you can't go back and look, if it's turned off right now15:48
Fridolfit's called w32codecs and is a pack of windows codecs which might be nice to have15:48
hydrogenif it was in this channel batis610..15:48
Fridolfamong them is the gsm codec ventrilo uses15:48
hydrogen!logs | batis61015:48
ubotubatis610: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »15:48
Fleckwheres the intel-hda sound driver?15:49
BluesKajright on , hydrogen ..good to know :)15:49
Pentarexwhere is the hand tool in gimp15:50
Pentarexthe pointer15:50
FridolfHmm, what does the pointer do?15:51
BluesKajFleck, prolly on the intel -sound site15:51
Pentarexhow to tell it15:51
Fleckafter kubuntu update i have no sound :(15:51
Flecksnd-hda-intel module is missing15:51
Fleckso stupid15:51
Pentarexwhen the text is marked i want to unmarked15:51
SlimeyPetePentarex: yeah, it's dreadful, but gimp is the best image editor at the moment I'm afraid.15:51
roflwhy does xserver-xorg suck that much ? you cannot even choose the refreshrate you like. in vesa its even worser, always 60 hz15:51
jussi01!intelhda | Fleck15:51
ubotuFleck: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto15:51
FridolfI kinda like gimp alot more than photoshop for photo editiing and restoring15:52
SlimeyPetePentarex: there are other apps (like scribus and inkscape) which are more text-oriented but they are DTP apps rather than photo editors15:52
Fridolfbut not for making new pictures and filters and stuff15:52
PentarexFridolf: ok tell me how to unmark the text ?15:52
Fridolfhmm, esc!15:53
Pentarexnope :(15:53
Pentarexi have a one scan CV and i want to add some text15:53
Pentarexbut omg i have to go in college to do that :P15:54
FridolfOpen layer box with Ctrl + L15:54
Fridolfand just select another layer :)15:54
Pentarexyes 10nx a lot :)15:54
Pentarexomg where do u study :P15:54
FridolfPentarex: Are you asking me?15:55
PentarexFridolf: i am joking.... i was saying if u want to use gimp u have to go in college and u give me the right answer15:56
PentarexFridolf: it was a joke15:56
Fridolfhaha okey :P15:56
hydrogenthe gimp ui definatly looks like it was designed by a five year old with a box of crayons15:57
FridolfAnyway I am taking a photography course right now :P It pwn =D15:57
FridolfHydrogen: Just use another theme15:57
Pentarexbye bye for now and 10nx a lot15:58
n1troFridolf:  i installed the files but i have no codecs folder in my computer15:59
Fridolfn1tro: /usr/lib/codecs/msgsm32.acm15:59
Fridolfcopy that to your wine windows/system32 dir16:00
n1troyeah i tried but there's no folder codecs where to copy from16:00
Fridolfhmmm are you sure you installed w32codecs correctly?16:00
n1tronope :(16:01
Fridolfwell you have to do that :)16:01
n1trothat page of yours was a mess for me :E16:01
n1troi just copypasted that stuff to console16:01
BluesKajBBL , errands ...again16:01
FridolfWell, read this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Ventrilo_Via_Wine16:02
reagleBRKLNhi just upgraded to 4.0.1 packages, but still can't resize/move panel, perhaps this was only for SUSE?16:02
roflis there a package for windows fonts ?16:05
LamerManis KDE4 worth to upgrade to it from KDE3? :) or should i wait a little bit more?16:05
LamerManwhy, is it still unstable?16:05
jussi01LamerMan: of course... if you want stable, i recomend to wait till 4.116:06
roflwhich kee version is in gutsy?16:06
jussi013.5.8 rofl16:07
FaiDillinGerid wait a little more if i was you16:07
roflif you dont have a new nvidia, its nearly impossible to get a hardware accelerated desktop under freebsd16:09
roflati dont produce a driver16:10
roflthose lamers16:10
rofland the linux drivers crash continously16:10
jesushey xD16:10
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n1trohey can someone copypaste what fridolf just said a while ago about those file paths16:12
n1troi had to reboot16:12
rofl[17:02] <Fridolf> Well, read this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Ventrilo_Via_Wine16:12
n1trono not that one16:12
n1trowhere he said move files from this path to another16:13
rofl[16:59] <Fridolf> n1tro: /usr/lib/codecs/msgsm32.acm16:13
rofl[17:00] <Fridolf> copy that to your wine windows/system32 dir16:13
n1trookay thanks a lot :))16:13
niall_oh man, I can't remember how UML works at all16:15
psi_hi all16:15
psi_i have just plugged in my usb hard drive witch is formatted in ntfs how do i mount it? thanks16:15
roflmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/usbxy /media/usbdisk16:16
roflyou have to create the media folder first16:16
psi_rofl: thanks but how do i know witch usb device it is?16:16
NickPrestawhat is the proper way to close my Xephyr session with KDE4? Do I just close the xterm/etc?16:17
rofldunno :)16:17
psi_i have already created media folder16:17
psi_how would i find out16:17
rofllook at the files in /dev16:17
psi_ok what am i looking for16:17
roflsomething like usbd0 i guess16:17
lontrawhere would someone request a backport?16:17
psi_i have a usblp016:18
lontrai've got the latest R from r-project's ubuntu repo and i'd like to request a newer version of rkward to be backport16:18
kieferHello all :)16:18
roflyou could unplug the disk and then compare the /dev to earlier version16:18
NickPrestalontra, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports16:18
NickPrestahi, kiefer16:18
niall_how do I setup a mysql database?16:19
lontraNickPresta: thanks16:19
roflniall i would install phpmyadmin and use that16:20
NickPrestaniall_, there is phpmyadmin, kmysqladmin to help with creating and editing databases16:20
niall_which is best?16:21
roflkmysqladmin is probably easier to use16:21
NickPrestaphpmyadmin requires PHP, a webserver, and a browser to use. kmysqladmin doesn't :)16:21
niall_well I'm going to be developing in PHP16:21
niall_so I've got that already ;]16:22
NickPrestaniall_, then you probably already have a LAMP type setup. I prefer kmysqladmin but I don't mind phpmyadmin either. I sometimes even use `mysql` ;)16:22
NickPrestaLinux Apache MySQL/MSSQL PHP/Python/Perl16:23
niall_yeah :}16:23
niall_oh, how do I change where apache is pointing? that is to say the directory is serves to
roflare there some fonts with fixed width like courier in the default kubuntu install ?16:24
rofllook in the httpd.conf16:24
NickPrestaniall_, you need to edit your apache conf file. I forget where it is placed by default when you install Apache via the repos. look for something called apache.conf or httpd.conf16:24
NickPrestarofl, there is 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono', 'Andale Mono', 'Deja Vu Sans Mono', and 'Freemono' to name a few16:25
roflNickPresta: is there something that lets me see if the font is fixed-width ?16:26
NickPrestarofl, usually, fonts that end in 'mono' are monospaced fonts16:26
hydrogenor are sick16:27
hydrogenone of the two16:27
NickPrestayou can also try 'gfontview' for a font viewer for Type 1 and TrueType fonts.16:27
roflthat has to be installed first16:28
NickPrestarofl, yep.16:28
niall_httpd.conf is empty :z16:29
NickPrestaniall_, the file should be somewhere in /etc/apache or something similar16:29
rofllook in /etc/apache216:29
jasonthe ubuntu install for apache does not use httpd.conf, it uses apache.conf16:29
niall_yeah, i looked in there, there's a file called httpd.conf, there's just nothing in it16:29
NickPrestaah okay. thanks jason16:29
niall_ah ha16:30
niall_right, ServerRoot, is that what I change?16:30
roflexcept you wanna use virtual servers16:31
dewitttell me how to close adept when i don't see it,16:31
roflps aux16:31
roflthen kill  processid16:31
NickPresta!aptfix | dewitt16:31
ubotudewitt: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:31
niall_virtual servers?16:32
roflyes for hosting more than one domain16:32
roflgoogle for it16:32
NickPrestaniall_, do you want to change where your configuration and log files are kept or where you can place documents to get them on the web?16:32
niall_NickPresta: place my HTML and PHP files. I'm not going to be serving to the web though, I'm just going to test things locally then upload them to my FTP16:33
NickPrestaniall_, then you want to change your DocumentRoot option. Leave ServerRoot alone.16:34
NickPrestaniall_, and change ServerRoot back to whatever it was before.16:34
NickPrestaniall_, you can create a folder called 'public_html', 'www' or whatever in your home directory and then change your DocumentRoot variable to '/home/USERNAME/public_html' and place your files in there. Apache will serve them16:35
hydrogenor you can use mod_userdir16:36
hydrogenwhich is a fairly common thing16:37
Nylefuck you16:37
hydrogenhe's pretty creative..16:38
roflsoembody tried linuxmint ? that looks quite nice and is ubuntu based16:40
NickPrestarofl, I've heard good things about linux mint16:42
rofli.e ?16:42
roflthe kde version should be out soon16:43
jasonI thought mint was just ubuntu with the propietary drivers installed at installation instead of having to install them yourself16:43
roflafaik it also offers the codecs and a nicer startmenu/look16:44
roflNickPresta: in which folder are the kuduntu default fonts to look at in gfontview ?16:45
PriceChild!mint | rofl16:47
uboturofl: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate16:47
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roflwhy does gtk+ look so crappy ? look like win3.116:48
kaminix^A new Skype version was just released, when can I expect it in Medibuntu repos? :)16:48
RMChas anyone got any good newbie websites16:48
RMCfor python16:48
SlimeyPeteRMC: the tutorial in the docs section of python.org is good16:49
stdinrofl: if you want to discuss the ascetics of GTK+ vs Qt do it in #ubuntu-offtopic16:49
roflstdin: k16:49
RMCthanks slimey pete16:50
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smerilhow can i make a second user account?16:50
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Vermuxso wazzz up?16:50
SlimeyPete"sudo adduser <username>"16:50
stdinor use the GUI16:50
stdinsystem settings > User Management16:51
roflhow can i login at the tty7 with root ?16:51
SlimeyPeterofl: there is no root in kubuntu16:52
SlimeyPeteunless you made one16:52
n1trohey somebody know a teamspeak server? anything i just wanna test if it works ;o16:52
stdinuse "sudo -i" to get a root shell16:52
NickPrestarofl, login as yourself and `sudo -i`16:52
roflif adduser then its there but i cant still login graphically16:52
SlimeyPeterofl: the login manager won't let root log in. You can change this in your KDM settings (/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc)16:53
roflSlimeyPete: thx16:53
NickPrestaI loved the root login settings in Debian. The background image is rows and rows of bombs and such. The cursor is a death head, etc. Really made you remember you're root. heh16:54
roflsome apps i.e. lazarus wont let you do much without root privileges16:55
NickPrestarofl, `kdesu GUI_APP`16:55
stdinthat's why we have sudo/kdesu16:55
trojan_forcedoes anybody know how many people program python ?16:55
roflah kdesu its called.. thx16:56
sub[t]rnltrojan_force➜ 716:56
NickPrestatrojan_force, worldwide? For *buntu? What do you mean?16:56
trojan_forceworld wide yh16:56
trojan_forcenah i just need a rough idiea16:56
roflyou should make a poll on your website, trojan_force16:56
kiefer_(Just popping in before turning off my laptop) - Hey Sub :)16:56
trojan_forcekk thans rofl16:57
sub[t]rnlgreetings kiefer_16:57
kiefer_How are you sub? good I hope16:57
sub[t]rnlyup yup16:57
kiefer_'rofl' : ever get the idea people are laughing at you? :)16:57
kiefer_Well, im off to bed, night all16:57
NickPrestatrojan_force, check out: http://python.org/about/success/16:58
tomahasamootThe sensons utilty is telling me a much different CPU temp from the BIOS.  Sensons says temps range from the upper 50s to mid 60s.  So I went into the BIOS to change the fan settings, but the BIOS said 38-39.  What gives?  I've got an Intel Q6600, a Gigabyte motherboard, and I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 amd64.  The sensors pkg is libsenors3, with it87 and coretemp kernel modules.16:59
n1trohey is it normal that i can't speak in teamspeak with my kubuntu17:00
psi_i have windows xp dual booted with kubuntu 7.10/kde4 but every time i want to boot windows i have to enable acpi in bios why won't kubuntu work with acpi?17:02
sub[t]rnltomahasamoot➜ when you rebooted to your bios, the processor activity slowed, and the cpu cooled?17:02
tomahasamootsub[t]rnl: I don't think so, it was such a short time.  Plus, as soon as I got logged in, it was showing the temp in the low 60s... but it might change that fast?17:04
sub[t]rnlmine sure does.  When I'm encoding video it runs hot, but the second I stop the temp drops drastically17:04
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TooEarly_how do i over burn a dvd?17:08
softvisionhi im on the kubuntu livecd. im trying to install kubuntu but it isnt detecting my partitions in the installer. its just showing /dev/sda. dolphin shows my partitions but doesnt let me mount them saying "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999". can someone help me?17:09
softvisionTooEarly_: in k3b go to settings->advanced and check allow overburning17:11
mrdlouisdI've been trying for some time to remove the boot flag from a pen drive. Im new to linux, and cant seem to find a guide to help me. I've umounted it tried it, but I can't seem to touch it.17:15
niallI added DocumentRoot to my apache2.conf but it hasn't changed anything17:16
roflmaybe apache2 -k restart, niall17:18
roflwhat does the command "touch" do ?17:18
niallno change17:19
roflniall: you have to edit /sites-enabled/000-somethin17:27
roflin the etc/apache217:27
roflthat is the configuration for the dafault virtual host17:28
rofldocumentroot is there as you c.17:28
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spirooHi, I wonder if there is Kubuntu 7.10 with KDE 4.0.1 avalable as LiveCD?17:36
spiroookay then, anyone know if it is possible to make GlobeTrotter HPSDA work in Kubuntu?17:37
roflya have ta wait for the 8.04 release17:37
spiroofor KDE4.0.1 or GlobeTrotter?17:38
trojan_forceno globtroter would be better17:39
spiroodamn, I hate to wait :P I waited several months for KDE4 and it was delayed, and when released a whole lot of bugs, why did they not wait a little more instead :P17:39
jussi01spiroo: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)17:40
spirooGlobeTrotter would be nice to get working, because I cannot use Internet for the moment in Kubuntu :(17:40
genii!info nozomi | spiroo17:40
spiroojussi01: I do not need support for that17:40
ubotuspiroo: Package nozomi does not exist in gutsy17:40
spiroogenii: I have tested nozomi, does not work at all17:41
geniispiroo: I have on my 7.10 box nozomi listed, but then again I have some nonstandard repos17:41
spiroogenii: Hmm okay, but I never get it to work with KPPP or Nozomi.17:42
spirooIs it not possible to get GlobeTrotter to work out of the box? I do not know how to do it manually17:44
* ScorpKing waves..17:49
geniispiroo: I don't use any 3G adapters yet, so not much help. There seems to be a forum relating specifically to these cards and linux at http://www.pharscape.org/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,68//17:50
niallit's still not working ;/17:51
CavallitoI have some problems. My keboard works ok at the start but then suddenly space and all keys stoped to repat the char if I hold the key. So if I hold key "d" I just get one d not dddddd :) ? Where is the problem. I dont know any other way how to describe this :/17:52
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vesimaenaudioanyone use "Pretec Introduces The 2GB i-Disk Touch" -usb memory in kubuntu?17:54
jussi01vesimaenaudio: not me, do you have a problem with it?17:55
spiroogenii: okay, thanks nayway17:55
mathew_when ever i hover on anything on the task thing at bottom it opens and closes17:57
mathew_then flashes on and off rapidly17:57
vesimaenaudiojussi01: yes i have17:57
mathew_also my mouse moves on its own17:58
NickPrestamathew_, has this always been a problem? Running Gutsy?17:58
mathew_just happened17:58
mathew_after i tried to fix my xorg problem17:59
NickPrestamathew_, what did you do to 'fix' your problem? Does undoing what you did fix the task bar issue?17:59
mathew_even after i take baterys out my mouse the mouse moves17:59
jussi01!anyone | vesimaenaudio17:59
ubotuvesimaenaudio: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?17:59
mathew_i didnt do anything to fix the taskbar i was trying to fix a dual montoir problem18:00
mathew_then it wudnt boot due to a bad xorg18:00
mathew_so i deleted it and made a new one18:00
elleniadbannthiss> KLINE AT LEAST18:00
elleniad<bannthiss> MOTHE%RVCUFCKER18:00
mathew_copied a backup18:00
elleniadbannthiss> KLINE AT LEAST18:00
elleniad<bannthiss> MOTHE%RVCUFCKER18:00
elleniadbannthiss> KLINE AT LEAST18:00
mathew_now its wird18:00
elleniad<bannthiss> MOTHE%RVCUFCKER18:00
elleniadbannthiss> KLINE AT LEAST18:00
elleniad<bannthiss> MOTHE%RVCUFCKER18:00
NickPrestaelleniad, stop spamming the channel.18:00
elleniadbannthiss> KLINE AT LEAST18:00
elleniad<bannthiss> MOTHE%RVCUFCKER18:00
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elleniadfguck u18:01
ubotuops is Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!18:01
NickPrestathank you. :)18:01
nixternalthanks for the alert :)18:01
NickPrestamathew_, you created a new xorg.conf from scratch?18:01
mathew_no i copied from backup18:01
nixternalthat moron is now messaging me what he was spamming in here...hahahaha18:02
naliothnixternal: you can pull that ban18:02
NickPrestanixternal, heh.18:02
mathew_i fail to understand what xorg got to do with my mouse :S18:02
nixternalnalioth: roger18:02
NickPrestamathew_, well, you have to tackle each problem one at a time18:02
mathew_huh lol i was i created another problem18:03
NickPrestamathew_, well, I would start with using the last known 'good' xorg.conf (that doesn't cause taskbar or dual monitor problems), and then do  what you did to 'fix' your X problems, one change at a time, to see what is causing the flashing taskbar issue.18:03
mathew_fixing my xorg made this happen18:03
mathew_i dont get how xorg can do this18:03
NickPrestamathew_, yes, undo your 'fixes'. Clearly the fix caused another problem :)18:03
mathew_it didnt18:04
mathew_it created non boot18:04
mathew_so i fixed the non boot by using the backuped one18:04
mathew_now i have this dodgy thing18:04
NickPrestawell, I don't know how to diagnose a possessed mouse or flashing taskbar without an indication of what could have caused it, especially since you said it started happening after you fixed X18:05
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Tecumsehgood evening18:06
NickPrestahi, Tecumseh18:06
vesimaenaudioubotu: sorry..my english is so bad and is hard explain my problem in english. im from finland18:06
NickPrestavesimaenaudio, ubotu is a bot. he is not a real person.18:06
NickPresta!fi | vesimaenaudio you can try here18:07
ubotuvesimaenaudio you can try here: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi18:07
TecumsehI'm (still) having troubles installing azureus. It keeps crashing just after startup. I have gone through a dozen forumpages and guides but still no luck. Is there anybody that can give me a working sollution? I'm on Kubuntu Gutsy18:07
NickPrestaTecumseh, what happens when you run azureus from the console? What sort of output do you get? Feel free to use a pastebin if the output is greater than 3 lines18:07
NickPresta!pastebin > Tecumseh18:08
TecumsehI know about pastebin NickPresta :P18:08
TecumsehOwh, for the record because it's kinda important. I'm on 64-bits Gutsy...18:09
vesimaenaudioNickPresta: yeah, i know this finland channel but there is not anyone who know some this memory18:09
NickPrestavesimaenaudio, okay. try and explain your problem again. I will do my best to help you.18:10
yao_ziyuanlisten up guys18:10
yao_ziyuanthe first linux distro that will rule the world have two essential things:18:10
yao_ziyuanKDE >= 3.5.818:10
yao_ziyuanimmediate availability of east asian language display (Unicode) and input18:10
NickPrestayao_ziyuan, thanks for the insight.18:11
vesimaenaudioNickPresta: okay...i try18:11
yao_ziyuankubuntu already has the former18:11
yao_ziyuanbut lacks the latter18:11
yao_ziyuani tried PCLinuxOS 2007 and it seemed to have both (but a KDE < 3.5.8)18:12
yao_ziyuannow i'm downloading its 2008 version which includes KDE 3.5.818:12
NickPrestayao_ziyuan, okay.18:12
yao_ziyuanas long as you guys still can't figure this essence out, kubuntu is crap.18:13
yao_ziyuanand windows still rocks18:13
TecumsehNickPresta: you got the pastbin line I put in there?18:13
NickPrestaTecumseh, yep. I'm searching around Google now18:13
TecumsehI did have it working on my previous installation but I did a reinstall because of another harddrive. Still have the old drive attached to this pc18:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:15
NickPrestaTecumseh, according to the azureus wiki, it means your router doesn't support UPnP or someone on your LAN is using the UDP port. First, try port forwarding the port in question (20931) to your computer.18:15
Xbehavehow do i get themese for emerald in gutsy (i want the gpl1s ive managed to get the non gpl)18:15
stdinXbehave: emerald is dead, it's svn site has been discontinued18:16
TecumsehNickPresta: port is forwarded though.18:17
Xbehaveyet another stab to the beryl users then18:18
stdinXbehave: beryl is also dead18:18
Tecumsehbrb, rebooting router18:19
* Jucato hands stdin a shovel18:19
NickPrestastdin, https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes/ is still up for me. Importing the themes via the Emerald theme manager is broken. However, you can still save the *.emerald file and import it manually.18:19
* stdin starts digging18:19
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stdinNickPresta: the sire emerald used to host the majority of their themes stop responding a while ago, and all development seems to have stopped18:20
vesimaenaudioNickPresta: i place my stick to usb panel. And there in stick is two exe file. One is program, which start if i do this in XP. Program ask password or fingerprint to allow acces in memory-stick. How i acces in stick in kubuntu? Wine not work. I hope you understand..18:20
NickPrestastdin, ah okay.18:21
NickPrestavesimaenaudio, I understood, but I don't know of a solution to your problem off the top of my head, sorry.18:21
vesimaenaudioNickPresta: okay, thanks18:22
trojan_forcewhat is the latest version of linux out at the momen t18:22
stdinthe 2.6.24 series I think18:22
NickPrestatrojan_force, the latest stable version is 2.6.24 :)18:22
trojan_forcewhat do u use18:23
stdingutsy uses 2.6.22, hardy will use 2.6.2418:23
Xbehavevesimaenaudio: it should be doable with pam auto mount stuff, what encryption is used?18:24
spirooIs Hardy stable enough these days, or should you wait. I mean they are Alpha-phase for the moment.18:24
stdinspiroo: the answer to that depends on what type of user you are18:25
TameLionspiroo: If you have to ask, you should probably wait :)18:25
vesimaenaudioXbehave: i dont know.. where i can see it?18:26
Xbehavespiroo: unless you want to report bugs your probably better just updating the kernel if you want it18:26
NickPrestaTecumseh, I haven't been able to find any helpful information regarding your specific issue. You may consider using another version of Java (perhaps java-gcj)18:26
spiroostdin, TameLion: Well I am quite out of the box user, if I have music player, internet working I do not need much more than that.18:27
Xbehavevesimaenaudio: im not sure what program is used under windows?18:27
TecumsehNickPresta: I have some progress. I have disabled upnp but it still crashes18:27
vesimaenaudioXbehave: i go and watch....need boot to XP18:27
NickPrestaTecumseh, is there any specific reason why you _have_ to use Azureus? Deluge i a similar replacement and KTorrent is just awesome.18:27
spirooXbehave: I am not out for the new core, would be KDE 4.0.1 in that case.18:27
Xbehavevesimaenaudio: i dont know much about cross platform encryption so im not going to be much help, there may be a way of seeing it without repooting18:27
CavallitoI have some problems. My keboard works ok at the start but then suddenly space and all keys stoped to repat the char if I hold the key. So if I hold key "d" I just get one d not dddddd :) ? Where is the problem. I dont know any other way how to describe this :/18:28
stdinspiroo: you can try it out, but I'd suggest keeping gutsy installed and install hardy on another partition. at this moment it's mostly working but that can change very quickly. test out the liveCD for a while before you decide18:29
stdinremember that it's still not officially supported yet so it's up to you to figure things out18:29
TecumsehI tried KTorrent, but didn't get through the ip-blocking filter configuration18:30
vesimaenaudioXbehave: maybe there is, if can look..i cant..in stick is only autorun.inf, AutoVerify.exe and fpclear.exe -files.18:30
spiroostdin: Allright then :P Will probably try it out, I will get my Stable Internet Line very soon though, So I am not sure. Anyway, is there huge changes in Hardy, or what Is it to expect? Does not say to much on the website kubuntu.org18:31
roflit should be possible to use utorrent.exe with wine18:31
Xbehavevesimaenaudio: its possible to use luks and the windows equivelenat or truecrypt across both platforms, there may also be others too18:31
stdinspiroo: it's only been developed for 3 months so far so there are more changes to come, but most are core changes right now18:32
Tecumsehrofl: I didn't install Kubuntu (or any linux distro for that matter) just to fall back to windows programs18:32
spirooI must though say, everyone is working really effective, I mean they released KDE 4.0.1, and it is almost out for every single desktop system or what you call it :P18:32
roflTecumseh: you won't find some good linux replacement for every windows program18:33
roflespecially if you code yourself18:33
Xbehavewill installing feistys theme package get around my emerald problem18:34
NickPrestaTecumseh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/57875  Check near the middle, where John Dong explains the situation (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/57875/comments/117) and if you follow the posts, there appears to be a fixed up deb.18:34
roflits easier to do my coding in delphi and run the app in wine than learning c++ and how to use those fancy widgetsets18:34
spiroostdin: Allright, seems not to much changes. Then my personal opinion, says theres not to much to better up. Only make more of it :) Would love when Amarok 2, Kopete 1.0, KDE4.1, Decibel, KOffice2 is out.18:34
Douglas_Elooking for help with setting up ssh server and router stuff! Totally lost newbie18:35
vesimaenaudioXbehave: i hope its possible..but i still go and boot system. and check this program18:35
roflDouglas_E: you will need a tutorial then, use google18:35
Douglas_EBeen there done that.18:36
Douglas_EI have it all installed but can't get it to work18:36
Douglas_EI can get it to work for local though.18:36
roflthe router or ssl18:36
stdinspiroo: amarok2 technical preview 1 is the the PPA, kopete 1.0 is a while off yet and koffice2 is slightly broken atm, don't know much about decibel18:36
NickPrestaDouglas_E, have you checked out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto18:36
roflthen open port 22 on your router and forward it to your linux machines ip adress18:37
roflmust be under applications/gaming on most routers18:37
Douglas_ENickPresta: yes18:37
NickPrestastdin, does amarok2 (1.80-0ubuntu1~gutsy1~ppa1) need to be run within a KDE4 session?18:38
spiroostdin: okay :) It will take some time, I understand. It is just so hard when they release betas and previews. I install them directly most of the time :P18:38
TecumsehNickPresta: thanks for the read, I fear I have seen this thread before and tried it. But I'll retry anyway18:38
Douglas_Erofl how do you open port 22 on the router?18:38
stdinNickPresta: I think it should run in a kde3 session, haven't tried though. it may need plasma running18:38
spirooNow I just miss Photoshop CS3 for Linux/KDE :P Hopfully there will be now, when Adobe uses QT.18:39
NickPrestaTecumseh, okay. Give Deluge a try if you haven't. It's similar to Azureus.18:39
NickPrestastdin, okay. *tries*18:39
roflDouglas_E: search for a menupoint like "applications and gaming or port forwarding " on your router18:39
p_mashocan someone help with kde4 - I want to disable the helpful "popup" that happend when u hover over an application on the taskbar.. Its causing kde4 to freeeeeze for 30 seconds or so (not the desktop setting, window thumbnail)18:41
TecumsehNickPresta: found it: AMD64 users: icedtea crashes on your architecture (icedtea bug)18:41
NickPrestaI_V_A_N, with what18:42
I_V_A_Ni want to install ubuntu but i have xp18:42
I_V_A_Nand i want to be able to run both systems for while18:43
I_V_A_Nis it possible?18:43
jpatrick!dualboot | I_V_A_N18:43
ubotuI_V_A_N: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot18:43
Douglas_Erofl: would that be tcp forwarding? This is all hard because my router is german.18:44
roflyes its tcp forwarding, Douglas_E18:44
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Douglas_Erofl: I think I have it. Do I need to reboot or anything to test it?18:45
roflDouglas_E: the router should apply the setting immediately, but you have to reboot it eventually18:45
Douglas_Erofl one other question, it says private or public?18:45
roflpublic for outside(WAN) access18:46
roflyou can also choose another port . i.e. port 222 forwarded to port 2218:46
Douglas_Erofl: kickbutt!!! IT is working!!18:47
maduserwhere do i get the java development enviroment?18:48
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.18:48
SlimeyPetemaduser: in short, "apt-get install sun-java6-jdk"18:48
SlimeyPetesorry, "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk"18:49
rdwhello. anybody big into grub? i'm trying to boot a grub.iso off a cd but the computer always loads windows before grub even shows. yes, i do have correctly setup booting priorities18:49
vbgunzwhats the matter with the latest flash ugrade?18:49
vbgunzit broke across konqueror and firefox, cannot see any flash movies :/18:50
madusernow with flash you need to download it from adobe and do a manual install18:50
NickPresta!flashissues | vbgunz18:50
ubotuvbgunz: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If that is the case for your mirror, please wait a couple of hours.18:50
vbgunzI just got a flash update, downloaded it and it broke something that wasn't broken :/18:51
vbgunzwas it supposed to fix something?18:51
NickPrestavbgunz, apparently it was supposed to fix the flash plugin problem18:51
ScorpKingrdw: you boor from the hard drive and then grub loads the cd from there?18:51
rdwno. mbr has windows vista. i'm trying to recover my previous grub configuration18:52
vbgunzdamn... I didn't have a problem, I heard a while back people were having problems but that was a while ago :(18:52
jeismaanyone have any tips on kubuntu to free up some ram and speed up things?18:52
HristoBGNickPresta: can u help me m818:52
NickPrestaHristoBG, what do you need help with?18:52
ScorpKing!grub | rdw18:53
uboturdw: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:53
HristoBGNickPresta: my hard drive is on two (etc. sda1 and sda2)18:53
HristoBGon sda1 is my kubuntu18:53
HristoBGNickPresta: on sda2 i like to have movies or music or other files18:53
HristoBGNickPresta: but i dont have rights to do that18:53
HristoBGNickPresta: permission18:53
hydrogenmount it as the user18:54
HristoBGNickPresta: how i can create folder or something like that its says u dont have rights to do that18:54
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter18:54
HristoBGhydrogen: how18:54
hydrogenlook at what ubotu just told ye!18:54
rdwcheers. hope it works18:54
NickPrestaHristoBG, you need to mount your partition with read/write permissions.18:54
HristoBGok ok 10nx :)18:54
HristoBGi will check it out18:54
rofl10x ? nice18:55
hydrogenyou forgot the n18:55
HristoBGi do not :)18:55
roflit should work without it as well18:55
HristoBGok in system settings advanced disk and file systems18:56
vesimaenaudioXbehave: FPManager v1.0.2.028 is program which windows use18:56
HristoBGits mount in media/sda218:56
HristoBGhydrogen: the linux says its already mounted in /media/sda218:57
roflthen umount it and mount it again with R/W enabled18:57
roflif its ntfs, use ntfs-3g18:58
HristoBGin the console to mount and unmount right18:58
niallhow do I start mysql?18:58
HristoBGi am new in linux18:58
rofl /etc/init.d/mysql start18:58
roflHristoBG: what filesystem does your harddisk have18:59
niallpermission denied, should I sudo it? :z18:59
HristoBGrofl:  xt318:59
roflniall: sure18:59
HristoBGrofl: ext3 :)19:00
roflHristoBG: mmh ok19:00
roflshould be umount /media/sda2 & mount -t ext3 /media/sda219:01
hydrogenthat won't work19:01
HristoBGwrong :P19:01
HristoBGits says not found19:01
Xbehavevesimaenaudio: all i can find sugests that its a prop encryption method so it cant be used under linux, i take it wine didnt work because of driver stuff? id look for OSS eqivelent but the hardware looks wierd so it might be unusable19:02
HristoBGhydrogen: how then ?19:02
naftilos76_hi to everyone!19:02
naftilos76_just got straight from fedora 8!19:02
HristoBGnice :)19:02
naftilos76_has anybody got a clue how i can type accents ?19:03
naftilos76_language is greek19:03
naftilos76_i can write it19:03
HristoBGu want to19:04
naftilos76_but i can't write accents!19:04
HristoBGwright on greek19:04
naftilos76_shall i repeat?19:04
roflon windows you could do ALT-GR + ascii code19:04
HristoBGiaso :P19:04
hydrogenmm, I'm not sure how the how the language stuff works that well as I don't use it19:04
hydrogenI'm sure theres documentation about it19:04
hydrogenand I know its possible19:04
HristoBGti kanis natfilos7619:04
hydrogenbut I don't quite know the answer :)19:05
ubotu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes19:05
hydrogenmaybe ask there?19:05
hydrogendunno if it'll work19:05
naftilos76_no problem19:05
naftilos76_ela kanenas apo eladaaaaaaaaaaaa19:05
HristoBGi know only ti kanis ( how do u do )19:05
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat19:05
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:06
naftilos76_that's a start!19:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bulgarian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:06
roflnice a unicode irc client19:06
trappistanybody know of a good tool to go through a collection of audio files and automatically reencode files encoded above a certain sample rate?  I have some way-too-big mp3s.19:06
HristoBGhydrogen: how to unmount19:06
NickPrestatrappist, I don't know of a GUI application but you can combine some simple bash scripting and `mencoder`.19:07
naftilos76_Kanenas kalos pou na milaei Elinikaaaa?19:07
NickPrestanaftilos76_, this is an English only channel. Thanks.19:07
trappistNickPresta: I'm not afraid of the console, but what would I use to detect the sample rate of the existing files?19:07
naftilos76_sorry....getting out NOW!19:07
trappistNickPresta: keeping in mind I have mp3, mp4, flac, ogg, etc.19:07
vesimaenaudioXbehave: okay..thanks. must boot to XP when need stick.19:08
rofltrappist: try wine with foobar 200019:09
trappistrofl: looks promising-ish19:09
roflwatcha mean ?19:10
trappistrofl: I mean, it could work19:10
hydrogenthats kind of a crazy way to do it19:10
roflyes, i think so19:10
hydrogentry uhh, transkode19:10
hydrogenI think it can do that19:11
Xbehavevmware is an option, im abit coFPManager, confused by the wine situation19:11
hydrogennot sure how well the filtering works, but worth a try19:11
roflfoobar is relatively straight-forward coded and doesnt use much winapi19:11
Xbehavedoh stupid middle click "vmware is an option, im abit confused by the wine situation"19:11
hydrogenright, but its not the smartest way to go about doing it19:11
hydrogenwhen there are native applications that can do the same thing19:11
The_ManU_212i still use edgy and today i got a kernel update, i used adept and all ran normal as everytime but it crashed when i should get the popup for dist-upgrade19:12
roflsure, but you have to know em and they have to be good19:12
The_ManU_212then i opened manually adept and ran apt-get update, i think all is installed fine19:12
The_ManU_212is that right?19:12
trappistrofl: looks like foobar is gonna require some wine hackery.  it instantly complains I'm not on XP19:12
hydrogensuggesting that people use win apps in wine for all of their needs gives a good case for just using windows19:12
trappisthydrogen: apt-cache search transkode doesn't come up with anything19:13
CreationistI'm trying to compile a Qt app by source, but get this error when running make: uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.7).  How can I fix this?19:13
hydrogen!search transkode19:13
Xbehavetrappist: set the windows version to xp should work19:13
hydrogentrappist: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3766919:13
rofland you should use the zipped version w/o installer19:13
hydrogenCreationist: you need to use qt4 rather than qt319:14
hydrogenprobably some update-alternatives foo19:14
Xbehavehydrogen: honesty suggests letting them make thier own mind up its not my job to sell ubuntu to them, if foobar is the best tool for the job then using it under wine is my recomendation19:14
hydrogenits trying to use uic3 to create a file from ui419:14
hydrogenXbehave: but who knows if it _is_ the best tool for the job19:14
hydrogenits the familiar tool, but if you are after familiarity then stay on windows19:14
Creationisthydrogen: Really?  Looks like it wants me to use 3 instead of 4.  Either way, how do I fix it?19:14
brad_oh hi19:14
brad_the ati driver install seems to think I'm running xorg 1.3.019:15
brad_what gives?19:15
Xbehavewho knows if anything is the best tool, vi vs emacs, i reomend what i know19:16
roflbrad, theres a script called ati.rb, use it to install the driver19:16
brad_how can i get my X version ?19:16
trappistthere's also envy19:16
trappistbrad_: X -version19:16
hydrogenXbehave: then why not just reccommend using windows? I assume you know it better than linux if you are more familiar with programs on windows than linux19:17
brad_it says 1.319:17
NickPrestatrappist, you still there?19:17
CreationistI know Windows a lot better than Linux.  Yet I still use and recommend Linux more often ;)19:17
trappistbrad_: I believe that's version 1.3 of the protocol, not the software19:17
trappistNickPresta: I think so, what's up19:18
CreationistI just keep Windows for gaming and video editing... neither of which is possible with Linux (at least not useful)19:18
CreationistI'm trying to compile a Qt app by source, but get this error when running make: uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.7).  How can I fix this?19:18
NickPrestatrappist, http://pastebin.ca/894176 that uses mplayer to get information from audio/video files. You can use awk/grep/whatever to extract the information for rate comparison and such.19:19
Xbehavehydrogen: because i know about linux, if i only recomend a wine app if dont know of any stable linux tools, it has nothing to do with familiarity19:19
roflCreationist: you have to install qt5419:19
trappistNickPresta: hey that's a pretty good start, thanks19:19
Xbehave*...i only recomend a wine app if...19:19
Creationistrofl: You happen to know exactly which package I need?  apt has  TON of different qt4 packages19:19
brad_trappist: I'll buy that19:19
brad_I'm looking for the ati.rb19:19
NickPrestatrappist, I used it when I wanted to get all files in my audio folder with a bitrate of 320kbps or higher.19:19
roflbrad_: look in google19:20
hydrogenit looks like its using uic4 but trying to compile with qt3.. actually19:20
roflCreationist: wait a sec19:20
hydrogenwhich suggests.. interesting things19:20
emilymarehey does anybody of you now how i can make a webcam conversation with kmess19:20
rofli think its qt4-core and qt4-dev19:20
Creationistrofl: libqt4-core and -dev, actually ;).  Thank you.19:21
roflCreationist: yep :)19:21
naftilos76_Has anybody got any idea how i can type letters with accents? My language is greek? Anybody?19:21
roflnaftilos76_: ask in the greek channel19:22
Creationistgeez... 96mb for qt4?19:22
Creationistnaftilos76_: Look at the localization options.19:22
ubotu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes19:22
naftilos76_checked all of that...19:22
naftilos76_many thanks!19:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:24
naftilos76_there is not a single sole in #kubuntu-gr....i guess they all turned windian...!19:24
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM19:24
hydrogenguess not19:24
hydrogenthat won't help you :)19:24
roflCreationist: i had to compile the whole qt4 from source, took around 4 hours on 3 ghz19:25
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hydrogendoesn't take me that long19:25
hydrogenand I'm compiling webkit at the same time19:25
roflwell actually i went to sleep after 2 hours... maybe it wsa even longer19:26
rofland, its an amd19:26
n1trohi dudes, i was just thinking that if i need somekind of sound drivers or something for kubuntu?19:26
n1trobecause other people have difficulties to here my voice in teamspeak19:26
naftilos76_can anybody please help me get back my old nick which is <naftilos76>? i can't understand how-to from the <http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup>19:26
nosrednaekimnaftilos76_: you must not be registered19:27
rofltype /nick naftilos7619:27
VampireKingwhat were the quick key for complete name in konversation?19:28
VampireKinglike auto-complete19:28
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:28
hydrogenI use four spaces myself19:28
naftilos76_it says that it is registered!19:28
roflhehe then youre wasted19:28
HristoBGhow to mark as here19:29
roflyou cannot change your name to that19:29
VampireKingnosrednaekim: works19:29
HristoBGnot away19:29
Xbehavenaftilos76_: did your conection get dropped? either theres a broken conection or somebody has stolen your name19:29
hydrogenit is a dropped connection19:29
hydrogenthey come from the same ip19:29
naftilos76_there is no broken con whatsoever19:29
roflor hes got a second client open19:29
naftilos76_and they don't come from the same ip19:30
naftilos76_i registered when i was in Greece19:30
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>19:30
naftilos76_now, i am in Cyprous for good19:30
hydrogenerr, they do come from the same ip19:31
naftilos76_oh, god ... what a mess19:31
hydrogen[Whois] naftilos76_ is n=naftilos@cpe-119315.ip.primehome.com (Manos)        [Whois] naftilos76 is n=naftilos@cpe-119315.ip.primehome.com (Manos,,,)19:31
naftilos76_how come?19:31
hydrogenyou are connected twice good sir19:31
deathoncityplease help..i have started using kubuntu 2 ours ago,i have used PCLinuxOS2007 'till now..on pclinux i was able to read the other 2 usb harddisk's ntfs format,but on this version of linux i cannot...what do i can do???19:31
HristoBGhydrogen: how to unmount sda2 :(19:31
HristoBGhydrogen: please help me19:31
naftilos76_sorry what was that? twice?19:32
hydrogenthere are two of you connected19:32
hydrogento this server19:32
naftilos76_ok....what do i do now?19:32
ScorpKingnaftilos76_: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>19:32
ScorpKingnaftilos76_: thank Pici ;)19:33
deathoncityplease help..i have started using kubuntu 2 ours ago,i have used PCLinuxOS2007 'till now..on pclinux i was able to read the other 2 usb harddisk's ntfs format,but on this version of linux i cannot...what do i can do???19:33
ScorpKing!ntfs | deathoncity19:33
ubotudeathoncity: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE19:33
fhdhi. I'm wondering whether I should use apt-get dist-upgrade on a regular basis. Normaly, I don't see differences between upgrade and dist-upgrade, but with this KDE4 launchpad repository, dist-upgrade seems to be trying to install some unrelease packages which upgrade doesn't want to install. any clues?19:33
ScorpKingfhd: you should only use apt-get upgrade afaik19:34
fhdScorpKing: well, I tend to use dist-upgrade because it seems to be updating some hold back packages which I prefer. However, I'm quite shock that it tries to actually install unreleased software19:35
HristoBGso no one will tell me how to unmount sda2 :(19:35
rubikcubehi, could someone please give me the md5 of the current kubuntu desktop (i386) cd iso image?19:35
ScorpKingfhd: it's because dist-upgrade is only to upgrade from one release to the next19:36
roflrubikcube: that is printed on the download page19:37
fhdScorpKing: the manpage says it has a different dependency handling. only good for distribution upgrade?19:37
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo umount /dev/sda219:37
HristoBGumount ok19:37
roflrubikcube: for what the hell do ya need the checksum ?19:37
rubikcuberofl: I know, but I have the impression that there might be a wrong version on the site I downloaded it from19:37
ScorpKing!dist-upgrade > fhd19:37
rubikcubeafter a fresh install and trying to do an adept-update, it stoppen in the middle and told me it had to upgrade to 7.10 (although that's what I had installed, of course)19:38
fhdScorpKing: thanks :D19:38
ScorpKingyw :)19:38
HristoBGScorpKing: i still have no rights to create folders in sda2 :(19:38
HristoBGScorpKing: where to mount it ?19:39
ScorpKingHristoBG: what filesystem is it?19:39
roflrubikcube: strange, but if you had errors on your cd, you would have had an error message at the installation19:39
HristoBGScorpKing: ext319:39
roflerrors like crc19:39
rubikcuberofl: the cd is ok19:40
ScorpKingHristoBG: make a directory im /media for it and mount it there19:40
HristoBGa thnaks19:40
roflrubikcube: maybe you try sudo apt-get update in a shell instead19:40
rubikcubeor has there been an upgrade, like 7.10 -> (unoffical 7.10.a)?19:40
roflrubikcube: not that i know19:40
ScorpKingHristoBG: that won't solve your permission problems btw. tell me when it's mounted19:40
rubikcubethe upgrade hangs anyway, so I'll just try to update again19:41
SlimeyPetenah, there are no x.x[a-z] versions in kubuntu. 7.10 is the current version until 8.04 comes out.19:41
HristoBGScorpKing: look19:42
HristoBGhristo@hristo-desktop:/media$ sudo mount /mnt/sda219:42
HristoBGmount: can't find /mnt/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab19:42
HristoBGi create dir mnt in media19:43
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/<your_dir>19:43
roflHristoBG: isnt it in /media/sda219:43
HristoBG10nx :)19:43
rubikcubeso I'll just try and update only the kernel + apt/adept first...19:43
HristoBGScorpKing: done :)19:43
HristoBGScorpKing: now what19:44
doilgheashi how can i start tomcat as user (without sudo)  and how can i start tomcat without the security manager? i've kubuntu 7.10 and tomcat5.519:44
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/sda2/19:44
HristoBGScorpKing: done19:44
ScorpKingHristoBG: try it now19:44
HristoBGthank youuuuuuuu19:45
rubikcubeother strange thing was that in the live cd part of the install cd, the help page (on the very first install screen) directed to some 7.10 beta page, but I guess that's just something that people forgot to change for the final release19:45
HristoBGnow i am going to watch North Ireland - Bulgaria !! GO GO BULGARIAAA :P19:45
HristoBGbye for now19:45
HristoBGand 10nx again19:45
ScorpKingHristoBG: add '/dev/sda2      /media/sda2           ext3    defaults        0       0' to /etc/fstab19:45
ScorpKingHristoBG: that will mount it at boot.19:46
HristoBGnow ists19:46
HristoBGits >19:46
HristoBGwhat to wright now ?19:46
HristoBGits not19:46
HristoBGhristo @hristo desktop --- >19:47
TecumsehNickPresta: Thanks for the link, I have found the sollution. Azureus wasn't at fault here. There's a bug in icedtea-java7 for i86-64 that caused the azureus crashes19:47
ScorpKingHristoBG: if you don't add a line in fstab for it you'll have to mount it everytime you restart the computer19:47
sd132help, I had some updates, ran the updater but the updater  icon didnt go away?19:50
naftilos76If i may... when mounting a samba share (a hard disk connected to a wireless router ) what would the related fstab entry look like?19:50
rubikcubehmm, where does adept-updater write its logs to (if at all)?19:51
rofl /var/log/apt19:52
CreationistI'm trying to compile a Qt app by source, but get this error when running make: uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (4.0 vs. 3.3.7).  How can I fix this?  I've installed qt4, but that didn't help.19:52
stdinCreationist: looks like it's a Qt 3 app, not a Qt 4 one19:53
jack_sprattkubuntu 7.10 wont work with my inspiron 1100 intel 845 video chipset19:53
sd132it still shows 11 updates that wont update19:54
jack_spratti doubt itll make any difference but im testing ubuntu now too just in case19:54
rubikcuberofl: hmm, I've looked there already, but it didn't seem to write everything there... anyway, I'll try to reproduce the segfaults....19:54
smerilanother process is using adapt i cant start it and i get a crash message aswell there is some easy command to fix this i have forgot19:54
jack_sprattcan anyone help with this chipset and the drivers19:54
naftilos76in order to mount a samba share???? fstab entry???19:54
SlimeyPete!aptfix |  smeril19:55
ubotusmeril: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:55
Creationiststdin: That's what I thought, but several people told me it needs qt4, so I installed that.  But how do I tell it to compile with qt3?19:55
stdinnaftilos76: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently19:55
stdinCreationist: you'd use qmake-qt3 instead of just qmake19:56
sd132is the update broken?19:56
Creationiststdin: I've been using just make19:56
stdinCreationist: qmake should regenerate the Makefile19:56
Creationiststdin: Is this an error I can fix?        " WARNING: Found potential symbol conflict of dboxfe.cpp (src/dboxfe.cpp) in SOURCES"19:57
stdinCreationist: got a link to it? so I can have a look19:57
smerilit dosent work19:57
naftilos76Thanks <stdin> for the tip - great example!19:58
jack_sprattINTEL 845 VIDEO CHIPSET anyone EVER seen this work?????19:58
Creationiststdin: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1968&release_id=12366  I have the 0.1.3 source19:58
stdinjack_spratt: don't SHOUT, 845 works on my server yeah19:58
jack_sprattstdin; ok, is the video working with anything except VESA?19:59
Creationistjack_spratt: My friend has the 845... worked flawlessly for her.19:59
roflCreationist: why dontcha use the .deb file ?19:59
sd132nothing wil drive you crazier than updates that wont update19:59
jack_sprattCreationist: well Ive never seen this evil damned sh|tty chip work without a bios hack20:00
stdinjack_spratt: it works with the i810 driver and the intel one20:00
roothi i just installed kubuntu 7.10 then befor update anything i installed kde4. when i restarted my pc everythung now comes in text mode i cannt see any gui of kde4 i cannt login to the kde3 all in  text mode . i tried to alt+f8 i got this message/etc/rc2.d/s99kdm:75:genkdmconf-kde4:not found now how to get gui for kde4 or the kde3 i dont care i just cannt deal with text mode20:00
sd132well guess a restart couldnt hurt20:00
Creationistrofl: it's an older version.  Besides, I did try that and it gave an error too.20:00
jack_sprattstdin: Ok, well nomatter what distro I use or how, those drivers dont work for me. ever. period. I'd really appreciate some help before i shoot myself.20:01
roflroot: try startx command20:01
Creationistrofl: I'd be okay with an older version if it was 4 years old ;)20:01
sd132guess ill ask in #ubuntu20:01
jack_sprattstdin: pclos 2007, 2008, kubuntu, mandriva 2008, elive...etc etc, none work20:01
mneptok!root > root20:01
HristoBGScorpKing: are u here20:02
HristoBGScorpKing: so i wright20:02
jack_sprattstdin: old ios hack worked, nothing else, xor driver freezes it every time without fail.20:02
HristoBGScorpKing: add '/dev/sda2      /media/sda2           ext3    defaults        0       0' to /etc/fstab20:02
rooti tried to go in recovery mode and typed startx and it worked then i tried to run dpkg-reconfigure kdm  but still the same proplem20:02
ScorpKingHristoBG: yes. without the '20:03
stdinjack_spratt: check for errors in the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:03
HristoBGand now20:03
HristoBGin the console20:03
HristoBGisni hristo@hristo-desktop20:03
ScorpKing!enter > HristoBG20:03
HristoBGits only >20:03
HristoBGok sry20:03
roflroot: maybe apt-get install kubuntu-desktop does the job. remove it first though20:03
stdinCreationist: did you run ./configure ?20:03
HristoBGis this allright20:03
jack_sprattstdin: ok. im rebooting (again)20:04
Creationiststdin: Yes.  I get that error in ./configure as well.20:04
ScorpKingHristoBG: you want to edit fstab?20:04
HristoBGScorpKing: you told me to do20:04
HristoBGbut did i did it ?20:04
rootsorry how to remove it im new in linux sorry20:04
ScorpKingHristoBG: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab20:04
roflsudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop20:04
roflor sudo apt-get remove kdm20:05
sd132hmm, i wonder why the updater says i have updates but wont update them...hmmm20:05
rootok i did removed it what to do now?20:05
roflnow install it20:06
stdinCreationist: can you pastebin the output of ./configure then?20:06
roflsame command but install instead of remove20:06
HristoBGScorpKing: then wha to do its text file #uid something20:06
rofland do apt-get update20:06
rootapt-get install kubuntu-desktop?20:06
roflyes, with sudo20:06
ScorpKingHristoBG: you have to add that line in that file. go to the bottom and write it there20:07
HristoBGaa 10nx20:07
rootbut there is small proplem it need the kubuntu cd i dont have it right now?20:07
Creationiststdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55014/20:08
rootcould i make it download for repos?20:08
roflroot: type "sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list", then remove the line taht starts with cdrom://, then press CTRL-X20:08
rofland Y20:08
HristoBGScorpKing: i add it on the 10nd role20:09
sd132vetry strange. none  of my updaters work20:09
ScorpKingHristoBG: now save it20:09
jack_sprattstdin: ok so i booted up again and straight into cli20:10
stdinCreationist: ahh, I see now, you should do "sudo update-alternatives --config qmake" and select /usr/bin/qmake-qt420:10
jack_sprattstdin: if i startx then itll freeze requiring hard reset20:10
HristoBGi save it but when i go to system setting  advanced panel drive i filesystem20:10
HristoBGits says cannot load look if u made some changes or updates20:10
jack_sprattstdin: presumably x has already failed though so there should be logs to see...?20:10
ScorpKingHristoBG: can you pastebin /etc/fstab plz?20:11
ScorpKing!paste > HristoBG20:11
HristoBGhere ?20:11
HristoBGa ok20:11
stdinjack_spratt: /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:11
HristoBGbut what was the comman kate ?20:11
Creationiststdin: Hmm... that seems to have done it ;)20:11
gregor_hmm can i install KDE 4.0.1 on Kubuntu 7.10?20:11
ScorpKingHristoBG: kate is a text editor20:11
Creationiststdin: There's no way I would have figured that out even with Google.  Thank you.20:11
HristoBGyes what was the command ksudo ot what ?20:11
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NickPrestaHas anyone had any trouble with the newest flash update? I was unaffected by the flash bug...20:12
jack_sprattstdin:permission denied, whats the root password for livecd?20:12
ScorpKing!kdesudo > HristoBG20:12
|test|german channel for kubuntu20:12
rootok i removed it and  i tried to run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i got this mesage20:12
rootE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)20:12
rubikcubeI think what I just experienced is this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/17407920:12
rootE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?20:12
NickPresta!de | |test|20:12
Tarasi need halp with screen options20:12
ubotu|test|: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:12
SlimeyPete!aptfix | root20:12
uboturoot: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:12
acee1234why cant i write to my windows ntfs drive from 7.10?20:12
ScorpKing!ntfs-3g > acee123420:13
SlimeyPeteacee1234: should be able to, with ntfs-3g20:13
stdinCreationist: it took reading the configure script to figure out what it was doing, it only used qmake-qt4 when qmake wasn't found, but it's a link to qmake-qt3 on your system.20:13
Agent_bob!NTFS | acee123420:13
ubotuacee1234: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE20:13
jack_spratt? password20:13
roflroot: you have to run "sudo apt-get update" first20:13
stdinjack_spratt: there is no password, just use sudo20:13
HristoBGScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55018/20:13
HristoBGScorpKing: i think its this20:13
rootok i'll do it20:14
jack_sprattstdin: why cant I su to root then without a password?20:14
Tarasi need to run my CRT at 1920x1200 and at 85Hz20:14
Tarasand i dont know how20:14
ScorpKingHristoBG: hehe. it is already in there. remove the line you added again20:14
stdinjack_spratt: you use "sudo -i" to get to a root shell20:14
HristoBGScorpKing: ok 10nx :)20:14
jack_sprattstdin: ok20:15
HristoBGScorpKing: its now ok ?20:15
Tarasits at 1280x1024 and 61 hz20:15
Tarasits painful20:15
acee1234ScorpKing:  ntfs-3g is installed20:15
ScorpKingHristoBG: if you removed and saved it yes. try sudo mount /media/sda220:15
jack_sprattstdin: what?! even as root permission still denied20:15
roflTaras:  same here ;) you need to configure your screen first and use a driver other than vesa20:15
jack_sprattstdin: hows that?20:15
stdinjack_spratt: what are you getting permission denied on?20:15
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HristoBGi think its mounted20:16
jack_sprattstdin: /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:16
ScorpKingacee1234: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/<disk> /<mountpoint>20:16
Tarasok, what driver should i use? and how do i configure the screen?20:16
jack_sprattstdin: even as root (?!)20:16
roflTaras: use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then when it comes to the screen settings use expert mode20:16
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo umount /dev/sda220:16
stdinjack_spratt: use "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"20:16
rootok man i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and i finished20:17
roflyou have to enter the refresh rate of your screen manually, but autodetection may already filled in the correct values20:17
Agent_boband   "man less"   if you are not familear with it.20:17
ScorpKingHristoBG: fstab should look like this now - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55019/20:17
roflroot: now startx20:17
Tarasits locked or something20:17
acee1234 ScorpKing: were can i find the data to define those variables20:17
Tarasalso im on a live disk20:17
jack_sprattstdin: ok thanks20:17
Tarasbecause my windows got corruped, second time this month20:17
ScorpKingacee1234: man mount20:17
roflTaras: whats locked ?20:18
jack_sprattstdin: bingo, now what am i looking for?20:18
rootim in it i already in startx in recovery consol20:18
HristoBGScorpKing: ok i umount how to mount now in media/mnt :)20:18
acee1234ScorpKing: i meant what drive etc20:18
|test|ubotu thx20:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:18
Tarasdebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable20:18
roflroot: good then, does it work ?20:18
stdinjack_spratt: lines that start with (EE) and (WW)20:18
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo mount /media/sda220:18
jack_sprattstdin: btw this cli im at is in a small area of the screen, presumably because of 640x480 res due to vram bug. you know about that history right?20:19
HristoBGbut i dont have rights in there20:19
jack_sprattstdin: im looking to ee and ww now thanks :)20:19
HristoBGi have permissions in /media/mnt20:19
ScorpKingacee1234: do you know what disk or partition it is and where you want to mount it?20:19
Taras61 hz on a 24 inch screen is so painful20:19
HristoBGScorpKing: i dont have permission in there i have in /media/mnt20:19
jack_sprattstdin: cyrillic font does neot exist (WW)20:19
HristoBGScorpKing: how to mount it there20:19
acee1234ScorpKing: only the name "Trans"20:19
val0anyone here using mutt to check gmail?20:19
ScorpKingHristoBG: it will not mount in /media/mnt20:20
rootlook when i log in regular i got this proplem but if i go to recovery consol and type startx i got the graphical interface if i restart i went to textmode again20:20
stdinjack_spratt: it's more the (EE) ones, warnings about fonts aren't fatal20:20
roflTaras: reboot and try the command then20:20
jack_sprattstdin: AHAH, heres the little bugg3r20:20
acee1234ScorpKing: /dev/sda320:20
Tarasreboot the live disk?20:20
HristoBGScorpKing: but i cannot create folders now in sda220:20
roflroot: but now it should run also in default mode20:20
jack_sprattstdin: its the same error i often get on other distros, "detecting sil164"20:21
jack_sprattstdin: please please tell me you know what that means20:21
rootok i'll restart and see ok20:21
ScorpKingHristoBG: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/sda2/20:21
ScorpKingacee1234: where do you want to mount it?20:21
Agent_bobrolf 'reboot' ?     fuser /var/cache/debconf/config.dat20:21
roflTaras: ah now i understand, you use the cd20:21
jack_sprattstdin: "unable to read from DV0I2C_E Slaev 236"20:21
roflwell...then you cannot do much about it20:21
HristoBGScorpKing: ok 10nx m820:21
jack_sprattstdin: *slave20:22
Tarasyeah, i just need an OS while windows is corrupted20:22
ScorpKingHristoBG: yw :)20:22
HristoBGScorpKing: if i have problems i will right ;)20:22
HristoBGbye bye for now20:22
acee1234ScorpKing: i guess were i see it mounted now under media20:22
Tarasim trying to make a partition to intall it though20:22
jack_sprattstdin: "unable to read from DV0I2C_E Slave 112"20:22
jack_sprattstdin: i think those 3 errors are critical20:22
roflTaras: yeah good idea. the partition resizer does work quite well20:22
sd132how do i update kde 4 files?20:22
acee1234ScorKing: its mounted under /media/trans20:22
Tarasno it doesnt20:22
acee1234ScorpKing: remount with that command20:23
lontrawhat's the difference between the ppa kde3 packages and the standard ones in kubuntu?20:23
Tarasgave me an error, it said: !20:23
ScorpKingacee1234: did you read any of the links ubotu gave you?20:23
jack_sprattstdin: please comment, nobody in a variety of channels/forums has been able to give advice on those errors so far, I really hope that you cab20:23
ScorpKingacee1234: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sda3 /media/<mountpoint>20:23
roflTaras: just "!" ?20:23
acee1234ScoepKing: only got one and i skimmed over it20:23
stdinjack_spratt: try using "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and selecting the i810 driver20:23
Tarasi took a screenshot20:23
sd132is it safe to run  kde 3 and 4 on  the same system?20:24
roflstdin: what does -phigh do ?20:24
ScorpKingacee1234: what does mount say?20:24
lontrasd132: yes in kubuntu20:24
* lontra is on kde420:24
jack_sprattstdin: ok will do, one minute20:24
stdinrofl: sets the debconf priority to high, limits the questions asked20:24
Agent_bobrofl -p priority20:24
sd132lontra, weel it dosent work for me20:24
lontrasd132: did you follow instructions at www.kubuntu.org?20:24
|test|can anybody help me pls20:25
|test|need informations20:25
acee1234ScorpKing: that it isnt ntfs20:25
sd132lontra: yes and the updater has kde 4 files that it wont update20:25
tekteen!ask | |test|20:25
ubotu|test|: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:25
|test|mono-runtime (>=, libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libgnome2.0-cil (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libmono-corlib2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono-system2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libmono-winforms2.0-cil, libgdiplus, unrar20:25
lontrasd132: did you install kde4-core?20:25
acee1234ScorpKing: under Disk $filesystems it shows it as "auto"20:26
|test|where can i get this packages20:26
TarasWTF it asks for a passowrd on a live  disk20:26
ScorpKingacee1234: where is that?20:26
sd132lontra: it runs just fine just started not updating the files20:26
tekteen|test|: which package?20:26
|test|mono-runtime (>=, libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libgnome2.0-cil (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libmono-corlib2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono-system2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libmono-winforms2.0-cil, libgdiplus, unrar20:26
tekteen|test|: what language do you speak?20:26
lontrasd132: maybe it's b/c kde 4.0.1 just hit ppa20:26
Agent_bobacee1234 ?   let me see if i understand this.  "<ScorpKing> acee1234: what does mount say?" "<acee1234> ScorpKing: that it isnt ntfs"  <<<< it's mounted as something besides ntfs ?20:26
acee1234ScorpKing:  system settinging gui20:26
ScorpKingTaras: sometimes if the livecd does not boot correctly it asks for a password20:26
|test|and english20:26
sd132lontra: ???20:27
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:27
Taras...oyoyoy should i restart the live CD?20:27
acee1234is bob a bot?20:27
ScorpKingacee1234: you have to use ntfs-3g , not ntfs20:27
lontrasd132: kde4.0.1 just hit kubuntu and maybe there are still some kinks that need to be worked out20:27
tekteen|test|: that package is this?20:27
|test|the german are any ignorance20:27
lontrasd132: what are you trying to do just update?20:27
acee1234Agent_bob: yes20:27
roflTaras: usually you click on install and follow the process20:27
sd132lontra: yes20:27
Tarasi know20:27
tekteen|test|: which package do you want?20:28
Agent_bobacee1234 just what is it mounted as ?    vfat ?20:28
Tarasits stuck on the language selection20:28
ScorpKingAgent_bob: ntfs20:28
acee1234i typed sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sda3 /media/trans20:28
Tarasand after that i remember there was no place to make a new partition20:28
|test|mono-runtime (>=, libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libgnome2.0-cil (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libmono-corlib2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono-system2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libmono-winforms2.0-cil, libgdiplus, unrar20:28
sd132lontra: and it says it has   11 updates that  just wont update20:28
|test|need this20:28
|test|mono-runtime (>=, libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libgnome2.0-cil (>= 2.16.0), libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.10.2), libmono-corlib2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono-system2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libmono2.0-cil (>= 1.2.4), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libmono-winforms2.0-cil, libgdiplus, unrar20:28
acee1234Agent_bob:  i dont know20:28
sd132lontra: kde 4 updates20:28
roflTaras: you need to choose expert mode, then resize an existing partition20:28
ScorpKing!paste > |test|20:28
Agent_bobacee1234 so type "mount"  and see what it says about it20:29
Tarasok, problem is im not an expert20:29
lontrasd132: have you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?20:29
venikI am having trouble adding a WINDOWS network drive ... Kubuntu seems blind to the drives on my WINDOWS machine20:29
sd132lontra: no, let me try that20:29
roflTaras: it's called manual partitioning20:29
venikI tried Remote PLaces/Network20:29
ScorpKingacee1234: let Agent_bob help you. i'm going to bed. have fun ;)20:29
acee1234ScorpKing:  thank you20:29
tekteen |test|: I have no idea. sorry20:29
venikadd a network folder20:29
acee1234Agent_bob:  ok did "fdisk-l" reported it as fat 3220:30
roflTaras: you just have to create a swap partition 1.5 times the size of you ram, and one partiotion with ext3 for /20:30
The_ManU_212i still use edgy and today i got a kernel update, i used adept and all ran normal as everytime but it crashed when i should get the popup for dist-upgrade20:30
The_ManU_212then i opened manually adept and ran apt-get update, i think all is installed fine20:30
acee1234Agent_bob: still can write to it and see anything in windows20:30
The_ManU_212is that right?20:30
acee1234Agent_bob: cant20:30
Tarasbrb restarting20:30
Agent_bobacee1234 you didn't do what i said tho20:30
|test|got here a non public beta20:30
roflTaras: should be about 4 gigabyte big20:31
acee1234Agent_bob: looking for missed instruction20:31
|test|and this needs this package20:31
lontrasomeone should update the /topic as flash is fixed now20:31
sd132lontra: it says the packages ahve been kept back and not upgraded20:31
Agent_bobacee1234 type "mount"  and show me what mount says about that fs20:31
lontrasd132: then don't force them!  just wait ... ppa isn't a full repo20:31
|test|i should test it but has try what i can20:31
sd132lontra: ok thanks for the help!!!20:31
|test|and didn´t becoma it installed correct20:31
lontrasd132: np ... just remember ppa is sort of a testing ground20:32
lontrasd132: ppa is where kde4 comes from btw20:32
|test|cuz the version who my kubuntu allows to install didn´t match the needed20:32
|test|so i think must do it manual20:32
pm1hey :)20:32
acee1234Agent_bob: http://pastebin.com/m45f5883820:32
sd132lontra: do you think i should remopve kde 4 until   its fixed?20:33
jack_sprattstdin: that command only seems to result in changing the resolution, not the driver, what am i dong wrong?20:33
pm1hey could any1 help me20:33
stdinjack_spratt: it should ask for both, if not then you'll have to try without the -phigh20:34
lontrasd132: nope ... kde4 works fine keep ... if you want to remove it and reinstall it (not sure if that would fix it) go ahead ... what i'd suggest is commenting out that line in /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment it when you want to install kde4 stuff or upgrade packages20:34
lontrasd132: er if kde4 works for you keep it .20:34
pm1stdin ... cood u tell me how to uninstall kubuntu20:34
acee1234Agent_bob: im also interested in writing to sda5 but i dont want to mess with that partition tll i figure it out on another its an encrypted partition will all my taxes email backups etc20:34
roflpm1: just install another distribution20:35
Agent_bobacee1234 and what is the exact device/inode that you are playing with right now ?20:35
stdinpm1: remove the partition it's installed on20:35
jack_sprattstdin: ok, i scrolled to the bottom as far as i could see... ill try without phigh20:35
sd132lontra: ok thanks, it seems to cause more problems than  fix so i think i  will uninstall   it20:35
acee1234Agent_bob: the what20:36
pm1is there not a rm code20:36
lontrasd132: so uninstall it based on the instructions at www.kubuntu.org and if you want to try again later when 4.0.2 is out or whatever just reinstall ;D20:36
Agent_bobacee1234 the location of the filesystem in question20:36
Agent_bobthe inode name ?20:36
acee1234/dev/sda3(fat 32) and /dev/sta5(ntfs)20:37
pm1acee1234 .. is there a rm to unistall kubuntu ?20:37
Agent_bobso  /dev/sda320:37
acee1234pm1: acee1234 rm?20:37
venikI am having trouble adding a WINDOWS network drive ... Kubuntu seems blind to the drives on my WINDOWS machine20:37
venikadd a network folder20:37
sd132lontra:can i just uninstall the kde  4 desktop package  will that work?( thanks again for the help!!)20:38
jack_sprattstdin: its asking me about how much vram I want, and saying the i810 needs specification, what should I put in kb? in the bios on the machine its set to 8mb...20:38
pm1is therer a rm code to unistall kubuntu ?20:38
acee1234what is rm code20:38
Agent_bobacee1234 and it's not incripted ?20:38
acee1234sda3 is not encrypted20:38
stdinjack_spratt: you can leave it blank if you want, but 8MB is 8192KB20:38
lontrasd132: possibly uninstalling kde4-core will do it ... you might need to run sudo apt-get autoremove after and look for any kde4 packages lurking around20:38
jack_sprattstdin: you sure leaving blank is OK?20:39
acee1234Agent_bob: what is rm code?20:39
Agent_bobk   sudo mount -o uid=000 /dev/sda3 /media/sda320:39
Agent_bobacee1234 beets me what he meant.20:39
stdinjack_spratt: I've left it blank before, but it's up to you20:39
jack_sprattstdin: youve left it blank in conjunction with i810? im just concerned to get this right thats all20:40
pm1acee1234 cood u help me unistall kubuntu ?20:40
Agent_bobacee1234 he may have been asking for a command to rm (remove/delete)   some call commands  code20:40
lontrapm1: what do you want to do with that partition just delete it?20:40
stdinjack_spratt: yeah, it's default is blank anyway20:40
lontrapm1: or overwrite it?20:40
jack_sprattstdin: ok done20:40
Agent_bobacee1234 you did  "sudo mount -o uid=000 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3"  ?20:41
acee1234Agent_bob: returned mount: mount point /media/sda3 does not exist20:41
stdinjack_spratt: see if X works now20:41
jack_sprattstdin: use kernels framebuffer driver?20:41
stdinjack_spratt: don't use flamebuffer20:41
pm1i have xp and kubuntu n jst want ti all back to xp20:41
Agent_bobacee1234 sudo mkdir -p /media/sda320:41
jack_sprattstdin: ok20:41
acee1234pm1: im not the guy to know, im learning the ropes sorry20:41
Agent_bobacee1234 then rerun the command20:41
pm1klkl who cood help me ?20:42
acee1234Agent_bob: no error20:42
Agent_bobpm1 what are you trying to do ?20:42
jack_sprattstdin: what res should i set, 1024?20:42
pm1unistall kubuntu n jst have xp20:42
Agent_bobacee1234 then you should be able to access your data at /media/sda3 freely20:43
[ka]killerhumm im having a problem with ktorrent20:43
[ka]killerits not connecting to trackers o_o20:43
stdinjack_spratt: yeah20:43
jack_sprattstdin: k20:43
ISdepends on vedio card and monitor20:43
Agent_bobpm1 delete the partition that linux is installed on and reinstall your windows MBR20:43
acee1234Agent_bob: ill give it a go thank you20:44
pm1how do i do tht ?:S coz it was ma mate tht installed it20:44
[ka]killeranyone else having problems with ktorrent 2.2.5?20:44
jack_sprattstdin: x started, logging in via gui now...20:44
Agent_bobpm1 are you running linux or windows now ?20:44
xstDoes anyone know an image viewer with a slideshow feature that can make a slideshow with all the contents of a directory including all its subdirs?20:45
jack_sprattstdin: im very skeptical, i dont believe its actually using the i810, its impossible surely20:45
stdinjack_spratt: why?20:45
jack_sprattstdin: if it is, then why didnt the same driver work when chosen from control panel in kde using vesa driver and instead freeze20:45
Agent_bobpm1  you reboot into windows recovery console and use the fixmbr and fdisk tools that windows provides20:45
roflpm1: start your system with the linux livecd then start gparted and delete your linux partitions, then increase your xp partition20:45
jack_sprattstdin: whats the easiest way to check if the proper intel driver is working for sure??20:45
pm1i dont have live cd bt ?20:46
Agent_bobpm1 anytime you want to evict an os  use a different os to do it.20:46
lontrajack_spratt: this will tell you if it's using i810 -->  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep i81020:46
roflpm1: then ask your friend to undo20:46
Daisuke_Idoor use partitionmagic to delete the linux partition and expand the windows partition, then use a windows boot cd to run fixmbr20:46
pm1wats partitionmagic ?20:47
ISa program20:47
stdinjack_spratt: look for a line "(II) LoadModule: "i810" " in the Xorg.0.log20:47
IShelps set a partition20:47
rubikcubepm1: is there already a windows on your box or any data you need to save?20:47
Agent_boband do note that all the examples given above are following the "use a different os to evict an os" form20:48
lontrajack_spratt: and if you run that command that i told you -->  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep i810  ... then you can save time and answer stdin20:48
rubikcubepm1: very good, then just insert your windows CD/DVD and follow its instructions, accept when it asks whether it shall delete anything on disk20:48
Agent_bobpm1 then just insatll windows.20:48
pm1i allready got it but20:48
stdinlontra: what not just "grep i810 /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?20:49
lontrastdin: sure ;)20:49
lontrastdin: does the same thing20:49
stdini810 will match a few things in the log anyway20:49
Agent_bobIS define "set a partition" ?20:49
jack_sprattstdin: i used lontra's command, 5 lines of text listed20:49
ISset up20:49
aharoon_hi i had a proplem when i installed kde4 i was going to textmode then i solved by install kubuntu-desktop now i go to text mode then i have to run startx i want to get graphical login screen how to?? and how to install kde4 without have any troubles20:50
jack_sprattstdin: which part gives the answer20:50
stdinjack_spratt: what's the 1st line?20:50
jack_sprattstdin:"loadmodule: "i810"20:51
rubikcubepm1: but?20:51
stdinjack_spratt: there's you're proof then20:51
ISi'm not answering anything20:51
lontrajack_spratt: unless you see (EE) with i810 after it you're in the clear with your video20:51
Agent_bobaharoon_  dpkg -l | grep ii | grep -E ' .dm' | cut -d' ' -f320:52
jack_sprattstdin: so you two are sure that, since Im looking at a kde desktop and i810 driver is being used, the i810 driver is definitely working according to what I have said??20:52
stdinjack_spratt: certainly sounds like it20:52
Agent_bobaharoon_ if that shows anything    run  dpkg-reconfigure <what ever it showed here>20:53
aharoon_what is this im new to linux dont understand this20:53
Daisuke_Idowell 4.0.1 is out now20:53
jeismawhen i use compiz fusion rotate cube and a window is up, it goes incredibly slow20:53
jeismais that my graphics card or my ram?20:53
jack_sprattstdin: well, thanks a lot20:53
Daisuke_Idojeisma: you're using xgl?20:53
jack_sprattstdin: why didnt the driver work before then when it was selected and run by default in the livecd bootup?20:54
XceIII just put a new mobo in, the only problem i have is muting sound, is there a way I can fix this?20:54
stdinAgent_bob: you may want ' .dm\b' there ;)20:54
jeismaDaisuke_Ido i don't know20:54
jack_sprattstdin: and why doesnt it ever work with other distros in the same situation?20:54
Daisuke_Idowhat graphics card, and how much ram?20:54
* Agent_bob must have come at the preschool hour...20:54
jeismano idea about graphics card and i think 512mb of ram20:54
stdinjack_spratt: probably because it tried intel first and apparently there a bug where some chipset variations get detected as something else with that driver20:55
aharoon_ok i made sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm then ut gave me choice between kdm aand kdm-kde4 i  select kdm20:55
Daisuke_IdoAgent_bob: *nod*20:55
deepfreezhow know this error: kvirc: symbol lookup error: kvirc: undefined symbol: _ZN6KviSSL10globalInitEv20:55
jack_sprattstdin: is that what you think that whole "EE detecting sil_164" thing was about?20:56
aharoon_is this the only thing i have to do?? or there is another thing?20:56
jeismaDaisuke_Ido so is it the graphics card or memory?20:56
Daisuke_Idoi don't know20:56
Agent_bobstdin yeah \b   doesn't matter, he didn't even recognize it as a command string.20:56
jack_sprattstdin: because ive encountered that error message on countless other distrps too20:56
Daisuke_Idoyou have no idea what kind of graphics card you have?20:56
Daisuke_Idohow did you even get compiz running?20:56
Agent_bobstdin but thanks for the heads up there.20:56
stdinjack_spratt: that seems to be some chipset it's detecting20:56
Daisuke_Idojeisma: try lspci | grep VGA20:57
stdinaharoon_: try "echo /usr/bin/kdm | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager", that should force it to use kdm20:57
jack_sprattstdin: so why, when we used the same driver again having reselected it, did it not on that occasion mis detect the chipset as before??20:57
stdinjack_spratt: the default video driver for intel chipsets is the "intel" driver and, as I said, it seems to have a bug in it that the older "i810" driver does not20:58
artemishelp i have a problem : i turn on my pc and the logo of kubuntu shows up , it loads up to a point and then boots sth like busy box built-in shel.how can i boot to my kubuntu kde desktop again? o_020:58
jack_sprattstdin: so by default kubuntu selects the 'intel' made intel driver, whereas it should use the newer xorg driver20:58
artemishelp i have a problem : i turn on my pc and the logo of kubuntu shows up , it loads up to a point and then boots sth like busy box built-in shel.how can i boot to my kubuntu kde desktop again? o_020:59
jack_sprattstdin: but the official driver has those bugs it it which makes it never work for me20:59
jack_sprattstdin:is that what youre saying?20:59
stdinjack_spratt: both the "intel" and "i810" drivers are the official drivers, but the "intel" one has support for newer chips20:59
massisimodoes anyone use envy or installed graphic drivers with it?21:00
Agent_bobartemis mount the root fs from the busybox shell    or boot an older kernel/initramfs pair21:00
giovannidhi there21:00
jack_sprattstdin:so the driver im currently using is not xorg but made by intel corp?21:00
XceII I just put a new mobo in, the only problem i have is muting sound, is there a way I can fix this?21:00
giovannidexscuse for the BIG ot... do you prefer: "everything went well" or "everything has gone all right?"21:00
Agent_bobartemis but you'll need to fix that broken initramfs  after you access the root file system21:01
jeismaDaisuke_Ido 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200                              M]21:01
stdinjack_spratt: well no, both intel and xorg make it. intel open-sourced their graphics driver a long time ago now21:01
byroncI'm debugging a Qt4 application with gdb and would like to get something more useful in backtraces than '0xb7a03c36 in QGraphicsSimpleTextItem::paint () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4'  Can I use the libqt4-debug package to do this?21:01
aharoon_i run echo /usr/bin/kdm the resul is /usr/bin/kdm then i run  sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager and it dont show anything and it seems like it hungs it didnt goto new line21:01
giovannidno one her can speak english? :)21:01
jack_sprattstdin:so its a collaborative project between intel and xorg, or it is by xorg based on a modification of intel corps21:02
stdinaharoon_: no, paste the whole command in, including the | character21:02
stdinaharoon_: "echo /usr/bin/kdm | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager"21:02
artemisAgent_bob: i am a n00b. how can i mount the root fs from the busybox - shell?21:02
jack_sprattstdin:because in other channels its usually referred to as either 'the intel driver' which i assume means intel corp made it, or its 'the xorg driver' which means its newer and made by xorg21:03
aharoon_ok it gives me /usr/bin/kdm21:03
stdinjack_spratt: well intel pays developers to work on it with the unpaid developers, all the code is open to all though21:03
ISlol i like fish21:03
stdinaharoon_: good, that's what it should21:03
n1troi guess it's impossible to get that divx plugin for firefox with linux?21:03
n1troso i can watch videos in stage6 and stuff21:04
aharoon_ok if i restart now do i get the login graphical screen or i get textmode and i have to type startx21:04
Agent_bobartemis depends on what the exact error is.  may only need to insert a module   or may need to create a device node and insert more than one module.   but that's really not for beginners.   easier to boot an older kernel   or a live cd and fix it from there.21:04
jack_sprattstdin: so there is no distinction between the official intel and the xorg foundations driver for this chipset anymore? is this collaboration a recent thing then, because up to about september a different driver was used i thought, which worked alongside the bios hack, but all that has now been replaced with newer drivers...21:05
Agent_bobartemis and you do need to file a bug report against the kernel update.21:05
lontrajack_spratt: i810 was a precursor to the intel driver21:06
jack_sprattso the driver im using now is the old one, but im not using it in conjunction with the bios hack...how?21:06
lontrajack_spratt: the new intel driver includes that fix21:06
stdinjack_spratt: it was always open, but the new driver dropped support for some older chipsets so those hack wern't needed and the bug that caused the need for it could be fixed21:07
NetSKaVeNwhere can we report bugs in Gutsy's KDE 4 packages?21:07
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artemisAgent_bob: and how can i do it? o_021:07
NetSKaVeNthanks lontra21:08
Agent_bobdefine "it" please ?21:08
jack_sprattstdin: but this new one version contains a new set of bugs that completely cripple it as far as this chipset is concerned, great21:08
stdinNetSKaVeN: you can, but you should report them to bugs.kde.org too21:08
aharoon_ ok if i restart now do i get the login graphical screen or i get textmode and i have to type startx21:08
stdinjack_spratt: you're the 1st person I've seen with that problem, what exactly does "lspci | grep VGA" show?21:09
NetSKaVeNstdin: yeah, but I don't know if the bug is KDE problem or Kubuntu problem21:09
stdinNetSKaVeN: what is it?21:09
NetSKaVeNa lot  xD21:09
stdingive me an example and I can give you an idea of if it's upstream or not21:10
jack_sprattstdin: 82845g/gl[brookdale-g]/ge cehipset (rev 03)21:10
NetSKaVeNkopete's msn display offline here but I'm online, for example21:10
jack_sprattstdin:(thats paraphrased21:10
stdinNetSKaVeN: upstream21:11
artemisAgent_bob: thanks for the help..i will do what you said xD hope i will do it right xD bb21:11
lontraNetSKaVeN: unless it's a packaging bug it's upstream21:11
NetSKaVeNok, I will investigate the kde bugs then21:11
NetSKaVeNthanks for the info21:11
jack_sprattstdin:so the driver that im using and that works now is the old driver that i had working before the new ones came and messed it all up - this is just the old driver that i used to use with the bios hack, but without the hack this time?21:11
stdinjack_spratt: my server has "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)", seems the "/ge" is the only difference21:12
stdinjack_spratt: yeah, it's the driver that was used before "intel" became default"21:12
stdinjack_spratt: you should probably report the bug on launchpad (now you have a working system)21:13
Daisuke_Idowell, i have finally taken my first step into the world of the gimp21:13
Daisuke_Idonot the worst thing i've ever touched21:13
Daisuke_Idohowever, it's no photoshop21:14
jack_sprattstdin: no i got the ge, i listed it - or which ge? seems theyre the same to me21:14
stdinjack_spratt: yeah, they are the same, the case made me think it was different for a sec.21:15
jack_sprattstdin: im still not completely sure how this old driver is working without the bios hack now, before when i used this driver (as it seems to be the same one) i had to use that hack (sorry im a bit slow, i still dont understand this et)21:15
jack_sprattstdin:so we have the same chipset exactly, but mine doesnt work and yours does21:15
stdinjack_spratt: the driver usually works without the hack, but higher video modes will need it21:16
jack_sprattstdin:so ill still need the hack in certain circumstances with this driver?21:16
stdinas far as I know, I still use it to get 1280x1024 on my server21:17
stdinyou should report the issue here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+filebug and attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (that'll be the where the log got moved when you started X again)21:18
Xbehavei have compiz working most stuff runs fine,but alt-F2 sometimes comes up completly blank21:18
jack_sprattstdin:ok i will when i feel i have a good enough grasp21:20
jack_sprattstdin:this is a cross distro problem for me though so im very anxious to understand how to fix the problem as you have just don on other distros; apart from anything else in my search for a solution to this problem over the last few months live picked up several others with the same problem. are we saying then that the fix is simply to use the old driver, say, the one kubuntu currently includes on its livecd?21:21
Xbehaveif i manage to blindly stab the options button it works and everythings fine21:22
stdinjack_spratt: the workaround is to use the old driver, the fix should be done upstream (by x.org) in the intel driver so you don't have to use the old driver21:23
jeismahowq do i know if its my graphics card or my ram that sucks when compizfusion goes slow21:23
jeismai try and rotate the cube when i have windows up and its slow21:23
jeismawithout windows, its fast21:23
artur_Is there anyway to install the Sodipodi using the apt-get? Some repository to add?  I was trying to compile, but every ./configure tried, a problem was reported.21:24
jeismawindows being firefox, terminal, etc21:24
jeismaor is it my processor?21:24
Xbehavejeisma im not sure but if youve got swap usage it normally means that its ram you could do with, to find out type free in a terminal21:25
jack_sprattstdin:fair enough, but this is first time ive seen this workaround work, and TBH its not much of a work around the way i see it as the i810 driver is included with kubuntu by default, unlike most other distros it seems, which ship only one 'intel' driver. in PCLOS for instance the intel i810 driver, which should refer to the driver im currently using, us just a simlink back to the new 'xorg' intel driver, so you have to get a copy of the real i810 driver21:25
jack_spratt from elsewhere, but even when you do, and replace the intel driver thats installed by default, or even replace it completely, it still doesnt work nomatter what you do21:25
jeismaXebhave ok so i typed in free, how do i know whats goin on?21:26
jeismaMem::        449336     443388       594821:26
jeismatotal, used, free respectively21:26
stdinjack_spratt: the i810 driver is deprecated, it's marked for removal from upstream at a later date. that's why some distros don't ship it21:27
jack_sprattstdin:i accept that but the new one dont work which causes hell when the old one is awol21:27
MarcChow do I revert to the last version of the Flash plugin?21:28
stdinjack_spratt: which is why it needs to be reported21:28
jack_sprattstdin:is the i810 driver im now using constituted in a single .ko file?21:28
stdinMarcC: short answer: you can't21:28
tekteenMarcC: You can install flash on firefox21:28
MarcCstdin: no kidding? I'm using the latest plugin and CPU use is thru the roof21:28
MarcCI mean, I installed this one myself21:29
stdinjack_spratt: it's a xorg driver, not a .ko "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so"21:29
Daisuke_Idotime to install ff321:29
Xbehavejeisma is there no line called swap?21:29
jack_spratt stdin:so the driver that works is a single .so file?21:30
Daisuke_Idoi think this problem has been diagnosed more than once now21:30
MrRolandis kde4 instaled by default in kubuntu ?21:31
stdinjack_spratt: yeah, it's loaded directly by xorg21:31
whyhankeehi all, small question, on launchpad, subscribing to a bug is enough when there's no more info to add (as comment), right?21:31
stdinwhyhankee: if you want updates on it, yes21:32
whyhankeestdin: and to get counted as an extra person being bitten i guess :) thx21:33
jack_spratt stdin: so I know for a fact that this driver works, if I copy it into other distros then it might work right? will it just show up in configuration screens like it does on kubuntus, so long as i copy it to the right place i mean?21:33
stdinjack_spratt: it's possible, but it may  not. you can't tell with a .so it depends on how xorg was compiled21:34
jack_spratt stdin: that doesnt sound encouraging21:35
jack_sprattstdin: do you think its likely even that if i restart in live mode, or install using vesa with kubuntu and try to get this driver working again that it will?21:37
Xbehavewhere should i ask about my kubuntu + compiz problem?21:37
Daisuke_Idonow to figure out how to get java working in firefox 3.021:38
stdinjack_spratt: it should do, don't see why a live session would behave differently than an installed one in this respect21:38
jack_sprattstdin::ok, and do you think the same would work with ubuntu rather than kubuntu?21:39
XbehaveDaisuke_Ido: link /opt/firefox/plugins to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ that gets most plugins working21:39
stdinjack_spratt: they use the same packages, so yes21:40
Daisuke_Idotrying to test out an embedded java irc applet21:40
Daisuke_Idoand firefox keeps locking up :\21:40
jack_sprattstdin:and do you think that in future, as in pclinuxos, some day the i810 driver will just be removed by default by the package manager in ubuntu/kubuntu?21:41
stdinjack_spratt: when it get's removed upstream, yes21:41
stdinwe can't build what isn't there21:41
jack_sprattstdin:what do you mean removed upstream? excusse my ignorance21:41
jack_sprattstdin:surely you wont have to build anything, just leave present what is alreay built?21:42
stdinupstream is the project: xorg, downstream is us (k/x/ed/u/buntu) and debian21:42
stdinjack_spratt: every package you install is built for ubuntu from source21:43
stdinwhen the source for the i810 module is removed by xorg, then we can't possibly ship it21:43
jack_sprattstdin:why not? youll still have the source and the package that you have, so long as they dont change the licesing or something surely you can ship it as long as you like]21:44
stdinjack_spratt: no, because that would mean that we have to stay at that versions of xorg forever21:44
stdinor branch xorg into another project all together to just maintain that one dirver21:45
jack_sprattstdin: whats wrong with that - you can ship both side by side, simultaneously, like you do at the moment21:45
jack_sprattstdin:but presumably they have abandoned developent on this driver as its been superseeded21:45
stdinjack_spratt: not totally, but it's marked to be removed at a later date. when it's removed upstream (by xorg) we can't do anything about that21:46
stdinwe can't just copy the source from one version to another because it wouldn't build anyway21:47
The_ManU_212is that right?21:47
The_ManU_212i still use edgy and today i got a kernel update, i used adept and all ran normal as everytime but it crashed when i should get the popup for dist-upgrade21:47
The_ManU_212then i opened manually adept and ran apt-get update, i think all is installed fine21:47
stdinThe_ManU_212: if you get no error messages from "sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then you're fine21:48
jack_sprattstdin:i still dont understand really. Say im writing a book, and i go through several proofs before i publish it, but all versions are gpl's, if some people get access to the first rough proof and like it, then they can read it and distribute it to like minded people as long as they like, even if the book ends up much different and continues to be edited and rereleased into the future. whats stopping people distributing the original version if they like21:49
jack_sprattit or if it works?21:49
The_ManU_212stdin: but i dont want to make a upgrade21:49
The_ManU_212and i dont want to reconfigure all stdin21:49
stdinThe_ManU_212: it won't reconfigure all, just configure what's not yet configured21:49
stdinjack_spratt: we could stay with one version of Xorg forever, but then we'd get no updates/new features/bug fixes ever again21:50
jack_sprattstdin:why? why are two different drivers mutually exclsive? intel dropped support for some other chips recently in the new driver you said, surely its reasonable to ship the old one too then as an acceptable and very necessary alternative...?21:52
Agent_boband probably wouldn't need them either21:52
stdinjack_spratt: because the api/abi would change over time21:52
The_ManU_212stdin: and the upgrade part how to test without upgrade?21:53
jack_sprattstdin:how could the api change if the chips remain the same (again excuse my ignorance).21:53
stdinThe_ManU_212: why don't you want to run dist-upgrade ?21:53
miladenis it "unrar e filename.rar" ?21:53
florianrHello! I use google desktop, now I found a verry large file in: ~/.google/desktop/repo/1000 ... It is nearly 1 GB ....21:53
stdinjack_spratt: the api to the xorg/kernel interface21:53
jack_sprattstdin:who am I talking to by the way, id like to know who this so helpful and knowledgeable individual is21:54
miladenis it "unrar e filename.rar" ?21:54
jack_sprattstdin:i see21:54
stdinjack_spratt: /whois me to see my real name21:54
jack_sprattstdin:but surely thats a long way off21:54
stdinjack_spratt: like I said, it's marked for a later date. that date is not defined yet21:55
jack_sprattstdin: ok that makes more sense now, thanks21:55
The_ManU_212stdin: all is running fine and many is configured, other packages installed or some scripts in /usr/bin etc21:56
stdinThe_ManU_212: if dpkg --configure -a worked, then whatever you have installed is installer properly21:57
Agent_bobit's no wonder that people have so much trouble communicating on irc.   none of them act like they even know hos to read.     (not at this particular channel)21:58
Xbehave_with compiz kde colour picker / run dialog fail to show anything but dialogs (and the dialogs are permeninatly blank)21:59
The_ManU_212stdin: ok got an empty prompt so i think its ok22:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto22:00
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jack_sprattstdin:where did you say I should submit this as a bug?22:03
Alex135hey, are the openGL screensavers that are based on the type that take an image of your screen and deform it, are those suposed to work in Kubuntu?22:05
jeismacould someone tell me how to match my desktop bacground to the login background?22:05
Alex135by default it should already be the same...22:06
jeismai already tried going to the login manager and changing22:06
The_ManU_212stdin: is this right no message in terminal if all its correct with dpkg --configure -a?22:06
jeismaAlex135 they're not22:06
Daisuke_IdoAlex135: you are aware that a lot of people change their wallpaper, right?22:06
stdinThe_ManU_212: no message = no error, so yes22:06
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Alex135Daisuke_ido: yes i am,22:07
jeismaDaisuke_Ido do you know how to match it?22:07
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Daisuke_Idojeisma: create a kdm theme using your wallpaper as the basis22:07
Daisuke_Idodon't ask me how, i have no clue22:07
Daisuke_Idobut that's about it22:07
Daisuke_Idoor live with it not matching22:07
Daisuke_Idoit didn't match in windows either, so it shouldn't be that painful22:07
jeismaDaisuke_Ido ok22:07
Alex135Are the openGL screensavers that take a screenshot and deform it suposed to work properly in Kubuntu?22:08
jeismaDaisuke_Ido well how about changing how your login looks, where do i do that?22:08
atefHi everybody!22:08
Alex135jeisma, go to System Settings and then spash screen22:09
Alex135splash screen*22:09
ArtimusIs Flash working yet?  I've been reading the mailing lists, and I've seen people say Flash is working for Gutsy in Konqueror again.  For me, I get solid gray squares that crash/lag Konqueror.22:09
jeismaAlex135 i mean when im tying in my password22:09
jeismaAlex135 that backround22:09
_Angelus_will i loose any data if i re-size my /home partition?22:09
jack_sprattstdin:is this channel logged online somewhere so I can review our earlier conversation?22:09
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Alex135jeisma yes i know, however changing the indavidual background of the splashscreen is beyond me, if you want to change the splash screen you can go to that option and change it22:10
Xbehave_whats the command for the kde run dialog?22:11
The_ManU_212thx stdin22:12
jeismaAlex135 but isn't that just the different splash screens?22:12
DreadKnightXbehave_: alt + f2 ?22:12
jeismaAlex135 i don't see where you can change the bg here22:12
Xbehave_i want to stick it in a konsole so i can find out whats wrong22:12
jeismaAlex135 nevermind i read it wrong22:12
stdinXbehave_: the "command" is "dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand"22:12
Daisuke_Idoboot.  head.22:13
_Angelus_so no one knows if i can resize my /home partition without loosing data?22:13
Daisuke_Idoshould be able to22:14
Daisuke_Idousing qtparted or gparted22:14
Daisuke_Idoof course, you should really do that from a live cd22:14
Daisuke_Idosince you can't do it when it's mounted22:14
_Angelus_but how much chance do i have to loose data?22:14
Xbehave_thx,brb going to restart x see if it helps22:15
Alex135Are the openGL screensavers suposed to take an image from the desktop and deform it?22:16
jack_sprattstdin:are you sure that address is corrct? it seems only to want ubuntu not kubuntu bugs reporting there...?22:16
stdinjack_spratt: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same packages, think of Ubuntu as the brand and Kubuntu as one of it's products22:17
jack_sprattstdin: well they do operate rather differently, though I know kde is rather 'tacked on' to gnome, ubuntus primary focus22:18
jack_sprattstdin:are you an evangelist?22:18
jack_sprattstdin:thanks for telling me that btw!22:18
TimSkde is not tacked on to gnome22:18
stdinjack_spratt: ubuntu is a project, it just so happens that it's primary product goes by the same name ;)22:18
TimSKubuntu does not have gnome.22:18
Alex135Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE installed instead of gnome (aswell as some other stuff)22:19
TimSThink of it as a car. You get the pergeuot 300 and the pergeuot 300 desil. One has petrol one has deisil.22:19
TimSBut, you spell it right.22:19
Ms-susewhats the linux equivalent for active directory server?22:19
TimSThat was terrible.22:19
TimSMs-suse: Whats that?22:20
Ms-suseTimS, you know like server 2003, hosting a server based network based on active directory22:21
Pentarexis there any program like Flash get22:21
TimSI am not too good with servers :p22:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:22
TimS!info kget22:22
ubotukget (source: kdenetwork): download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1196 kB22:22
XbehaveMs-suse: there are a few i think, i think novell have the best ones erm not sure if theres a complete equivelent22:22
Pentarexok 10nx22:22
Xbehavethats not flash get is it thats just get22:22
TimSFlash get is a firefox plug in22:23
TimSYou can get it for firefox.22:23
Ms-suseXbehave, k, thanks22:23
TimSI assumed he meant download managers22:23
TimSAlex135: There are a lot of OpenGL screensavers22:24
TimSSome deform the desktop, some don't22:24
Alex135TimS: yes, but the ones that do, are the suposed to take an image from the desktop?22:24
TimSI believe so.22:24
Alex135TimS: because every time i try them, they just get some random image, and not an actual desktop image22:25
TimSOh, an Image of anything in particular?22:25
Alex135no, like of the space shuttle and such22:25
Daisuke_IdoflashGOT is a firefox plugin22:25
Daisuke_IdoflashGET is a windows-based download manager22:25
TimSAh, it could be a setting in that case.22:25
Daisuke_Ido(which is what flashgot was originally designed to work with)22:25
TimSAh, I did not realise there was a difference.22:26
TimSWell, I got the right one to start off with =]22:26
Alex135TimS: i have tried with all the settings, non have anything to do with that22:26
TimSI would try it out, but I have no graphics drivers22:26
TimSThe current nVidia ones for my card are broken :P22:26
Alex135that hapened to my old one a while ago, then i finally got a new PC...22:27
jklinckhi :) with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" i have no chance to switch my graphic driver, in the xorg.conf is also no driver entry for my intel card (Ubuntu Hardy; KDE 4) Gfxcard & Xorg.conf > http://pastebin.com/m3a6bc0cd22:27
Alex135TimS: what do you mean when you say they are broken, when you try them do they just make your GUI go away and only text mode works?22:27
TimSAlex135: They cause random kernel freezes22:28
TimSIts a known bug, they haven't fixed it yet22:28
TimSI have the old ones, but I haven't got round to installing them22:28
jklincki think its not the normal behaviour of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to go directly to the keyboard settings by skipping the graphic settings22:28
Alex135ah, ok22:28
jklinckor not?22:28
Daisuke_Idojklinck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg22:29
TimSYou need to add -phigh22:29
TimSDaisuke_Ido: Does phigh stand for something?22:29
Alex135TimS: just curious, because every time i install Nvidia drivers, i find that my monitor goes into sleep mode (indicating its recieving a signal it doens't know how to display)22:29
Daisuke_IdoTimS: priority - high22:30
TimSAh, cool =]22:30
jklinckxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration22:30
jklinck   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2008020700312722:30
TimSAlex135: Sounds like a bad refresh rate.22:30
jklinckand nothing happens22:30
c1|freakyjklinck: what driver do you want to install?22:30
Daisuke_Idojklinck: you'll need to restart your xserver22:30
c1|freakyyou need to add the lines by yourself in hardy22:30
jklinckoh :/22:30
c1|freakyhardy is really missing those configuration steps22:31
c1|freakyjklinck: what driver are u trying to switch to?22:31
c1|freakyare u trying to install the ati drivers manually?22:31
Alex135TimS: dunno what it was, but i go into the Xorg.conf and i discover the normal resolution declaration functions arn't in there aswell as a lot of other things, but dpkg-reconfigure fixes it22:31
jklinck965 GM (intel) so i installed the intel drivers22:31
TimSAlex135: I sometimes get it on other distros and have to use boot options, its not a great monitor.22:31
TimSAh. Odd :P22:31
Alex135TimS: hapened in Fedora too, but it could have been a combination of outdated Vidcard and probs with configuring the Xserver22:32
jklinckc1|freaky: so the whole autoconfiguration of the graphic adapters for xorg doesnt work in hardy right?22:32
miladenhow do i run a .run file?22:32
jklinckmiladen: ./foobar.run22:33
miladenok thx22:33
c1|freakyyes. i had to add a few lines so the aticonfig --initial worked22:33
Artimusmiladen: You might have to mark it as executable first.  chmod +x foobar.run22:33
miladenthx dudes, ill try them all :D22:33
dan__hello.. "huge" question comming up. :P22:34
dan__since I installed KDE4 my xserver (I think) sometimes crashes when I, for example, use flash or pdf.. when I reboot some letters are lilac (in a sort of pattern).. and xserver (I think :P) won't start.. however.. If I let the comp be for a while it usually starts again.. anyone having the same problem or know any of it?22:34
TimSFedora does that to people.22:34
c1|freakyjklinck: someone told me they are trying to get rid of the xorg.conf but im not sure ...22:34
blue|palmhi, i have just installed kate from kde 4 onto a regular ubuntu desktop, but the fonts are really ugly (aliased) is there any way to fix this?22:34
Alex135TimS: Any idea why i am forced to add the boot option -nolapic to get my kernel to load (running on duel core 64 bit)22:35
Daisuke_Idothey're trying to get to a point where users never need to touch the xorg.conf22:35
Daisuke_Idoand it's getting there22:35
TimSNope, sorry. I am running dual core, 32 bit22:35
jklinckc1|freaky: i think for the casual user its really hard to debug the xserver and to set the right paramters in the xorg.conf.... so a new way of configuration(easier) would help a lot22:35
Daisuke_Idoevery successive release has gotten a bit better on this front22:36
jklinckblue|palm: #kubuntu-kde422:36
miladenchmoit sais bash: ./: is a directory22:36
dan__oh.. and it crashes in kde322:36
miladensorry, It says ..22:36
miladenit sais bash: ./: is a directory when i try to run it...22:37
jklinckc1|freaky: but i think I'm not ready for the bleeding edge of ubuntu hardy :) so i switch back to gutsy...22:38
jklinckmiladen: what for a cmd have you tried?22:38
Daisuke_Idomiladen: remove the space between / and the filename22:38
c1|freakyok ^^22:38
jklinckc1|freaky: but thanks for the information22:39
miladenDaisuke_Ido that did the trick :D22:39
dan__meh. whi do I always get the wierd errors :(22:39
Daisuke_Idodan__: if letting the comp sit for a while (off) fixes the problem, it's a hardware issue.22:40
jklinckdan__: i think you are not alone... but "have you tried to turn it off and on again"? xD22:40
dan__oh yeah. then it works22:41
tzdcan anyone tell me if: "cp -a" will be enough for a move of "home" directory please? Read all kinds of guides and the last one I've found used find .. pipe ... and that definitely didn't work... I want to move my home folder to a separate partition22:41
dan__but is it a kde4 issue. since it never happened before22:41
Alex135dan_: i had a few strange errors a while back, found out it was due to a failing hdd22:41
Artimustzd: Looks like it.  It has all the options you need22:42
dan__Alex135: meh. now i got all worried. :P22:42
smerilwhen i try to add a new user in terminal with comand adduser it says that only root can add users what can i do about that?22:42
Artimustzd: I add -v for verbose as well.  But  -a is all you need.22:42
Alex135dan_: glad i could calm your nerves :P22:42
jklincksmeril: use "sudo adduser NAME"22:42
dan__Alex135: :P22:42
Daisuke_Idoit's probably not a direct result of kde422:42
Daisuke_Idomore or less just a coincidence that the problems are showing up now22:43
Ms-susewhen is kde4 going to be available as an alternate install in the 8.422:43
Alex135dan_: i was having strange isues like when i installed java it would download, but on the install part of it, it couldn't find the file22:43
dan__ah. kk. thanks anyways guys22:43
Daisuke_IdoMs-suse: it's going to be in the repos22:43
tzdArtimus: Are you sure :) Been trying past 7-8 hours to get it working and now I'm finally back to where i started ;) The thing that messed it up badly was most likely the: cp -a /var/* thingie but I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking here :)22:43
Ms-suseDaisuke_Ido, so, it wont be included in the isos?22:43
smerilthanks but what is the next step?22:43
jklincksmeril: if you need root privileges you can run it as a so called sudoer(the users who are allowed to run root cmd's) but to tell the system that this command should run under root u must use "sudo" in front of the cmd22:44
tzdArtimus: the var folder was a side thingie that i wanted to run on a separate partition as well... just as with tmp and usr and also home22:44
smerili think i made it22:45
jklincksmeril: there is no next step, type in the user password twice and you created one22:45
Daisuke_IdoMs-suse: not to my knowledge, no22:45
Daisuke_Idoand it shouldn't be22:45
Alex135you can alwase get into root by running 'sudo su' but then i have had GUI problems with that, like starting up apps that require a gui dont work right22:45
Artimustzd: cp -a is just an alias for cp -dpR, those are the options I use every day.  cp -a /home /newhome22:45
Daisuke_Idoit's *not ready* for end users, yet NO ONE seems to get that.22:45
Artimustzd: You have to be careful, cp -a /home/USER/* will not actually grab the dotfiles from their home directory22:46
tzdArtimus: I'll give your advice a shot though :) Will i be able to do it KDE or do i need to it in text mode?22:46
jklinckAlex135: you have GUI problems because your X-Environment is not present... so the apps dont know where the desktop is22:46
gustavonareaHello, everyone. I was using KDE and for a reason I don't know, my system got frozen. I pressed CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and when I logged in again, all my KDE-related configurations disappeared. Everything, including my emails, is lost. I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy. Could someone help me out, please?22:46
Daisuke_Idothey think "oh, hey, 4.0, neat, all the bugs should be worked out and it'll be the best thing since sliced bread and it'll even walk my dog and do my laundry and wash my dishes" but it AIN'T LIKE THAT.22:46
Artimustzd: Open up a terminal.  Should be under System.  "Konsole" or "Terminal Program"22:46
Ms-suseDaisuke_Ido, well, it doesnt bother me that it's not ready, i would just rather have it natively installed rather then installing it from repos22:46
gustavonareaThat's not it. Many personal files were deleted too.22:47
tzdArtimus: oh ok... hmm how do i get the dot files? I suppose i need them as well?22:47
Alex135jklinck: yeah thats probably it... how do i fix that?22:47
Artimustzd: They're the linux version of "hidden files".  It's all of your settings, so yeah.22:48
gustavonareaThe only "new" thing to my system was Gnomad. I was not doing anything sensitive. I'm using Linux for years, I'm not new at all. Any hints?22:48
jklinckAlex135: open the apps with root priviliges with the command "kdesu"22:48
jklinckAlex135: as a normal user22:49
Artimustzd: What exactly are you trying to do here?  Make a backup or move it?22:49
tzdArtimus: move it22:49
Daisuke_IdoMs-suse: not gonna happen22:49
Artimustzd: Alright, where is it going to be moved to?22:49
Alex135jklinck: ah ok, i was just wondering if there was a setting i had to set somewhere22:49
tzdto a partition called sda822:49
Artimustzd: Is it mounted?22:50
tzdArtimus: to a partition called sda822:50
tzdArtimus: not yet22:50
Artimustzd: Mount the thing somewhere first.  /media/sda8 or something.22:50
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tzdArtimus: ok mounted it to: /mnt/newhome22:51
Artimustzd: Alright.  cp -av /home/* /mnt/newhome/22:51
ArtimusThe added v will just show you what it's doing...22:51
Alex135Why do i need to add the -nolapic boot option to make my kernel load? (Duel Core 64bit Processor and ubuntu version)22:54
tzdArtimus: ok and that will do it?22:55
jklinckAlex135: (APIC) A Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC) that can handle interrupts from and for multiple CPUs, and, usually, has more available interrupt lines that a typical PIC.22:55
Alex135jklinck: oh22:56
jklinckAlex135: the L in no"l"apic is for laptop functions, wich are also deactivated22:56
Alex135jklinck: i thought that stood for local...22:57
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jklinckAlex135: but on a real dualcore system i think it should be activated22:58
Alex135jklinck: well mine is a real dualcore system, so i have no clue why its doing this.. what are the consiquences of it being deactivated?22:59
LilSargecan someone help me get Compiz / Emerald working.... i'v tried everything22:59
Alex135LilSarge: it doesn't work right in Kubuntu22:59
LilSargemy cousin got it working on his... was that luck?23:00
Alex135LilSarge: are you wanting the gnome desktop effect functions to work?23:01
ali__hi everybody23:01
Alex135LilSarge: ah, well i tried to get it working and to get the Gnome Desktop effects to work in KDE and i had no success23:01
jklinckAlex135: on high load it performs slower with deactivated apic23:01
Alex135LilSarge: what have you tried?23:02
ali__try to install kcompiz23:02
ali__i did n it works23:02
ali__but.. not as good as gnome ;)23:02
LilSargeumm i dont know this stuff on top of my head, just went to websites for help and my cousin tried helping23:02
LilSargeim new to all of this23:02
Daisuke_Idothe gene pool needs a little chlorine today23:02
Pentarexcan anyone help me with NVIDIA driver install ?23:02
Alex135jklinck: any idea how to get it to load my kernel without the -nolapic boot option included?23:03
ali__well i first added internet repos n then deactivated all DVD repo23:03
ali__unistalled all compiz packages23:03
ali__then istalled kcompiz and emerald23:03
Pentarexanyone ?23:03
Alex135Pentarex: i can23:03
PentarexAlex135: aa thank you23:03
PentarexAlex135: what i must to do23:03
Artimustzd: Sorry, had a phone call to deal with.  Yes, that will copy it over.  Tell  me when that's done.23:04
PentarexAlex135: ctrl+alt+f1 :) then23:04
ali__but i have even bigger problem with kubuntu now!!23:04
PentarexAlex135: but i dont know the pass for root in this console23:04
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:04
jack_sprattits possible to install kubuntu onto a 2gb usb pendrive isnt it?23:04
ali__i can not use my kontact kmail and akregator23:05
ali__looks like they r not connecting to internet23:05
LilSargeaight guys lll ttyl23:05
sensaeEvery time I start up I have to go into the network manager, and disable / enable my wired connection to get it to DHCP.23:05
PentarexAlex135: nope i am not registred23:05
jklinckAlex135: no guess, try to google for your hardware components in combination with ubuntu23:05
ali__wat should i do?23:05
PentarexAlex135: w8 a sec23:06
Alex135jklinck: alright ill try that, thx23:06
tzdArtimus: no worries mate :) copying as we speak.23:06
Alex135Pentarex: alright, while i wait il lget up the info i need23:06
Artimustzd: When you're done, you're going to need to tell the box to mount sda8 (or whatever you said it was) as your new home partition.23:06
sensaeAnyone know what's up and how I can fix it? It interferes with my NFS mounting in fstab23:06
PentarexAlex135: but how to reg :(23:07
Alex135Pentarex: 1 sec23:08
tzdArtimus:  right. I do this by editing the /etc/fstab correct?23:08
Alex135Pentarex: forgot how to reg in irc...23:08
Artimustzd: I think there's actually a nice way to do it in KDE.  I've never tried it.23:08
Pentarexi think it was /msg cs reg but ...23:09
Artimustzd: It's called Disk & Filesystems.  It should be under System Administration...23:09
tzdArtimus: you mean via the control center? I'm in there as well although I'm quite sure the settings won't last?23:09
PentarexAlex135: when u rdy i am too23:10
Alex135Pentarex: /msg nickserv register <your-password>23:10
tzdArtimus: I'll give the kde another chance ;)23:11
Artimustzd: Anything that requires you to click the Administer button is pretty permanent :P23:11
tzdArtimus: should be alright then... probably just me doing something wrong in there... this time i'll be more careful23:12
Artimustzd: Otherwise, adding an fstab line isn't too hard.  I've  just never used the little GUI thing.  I still use apt from the command line out of habbit23:12
tzdArtimus: yeah im usually more into the whole GUI thing although it's quite nice using commands as well23:13
Artimustzd: I recommend you just move your old home directory when you're done, rather than delete it.  Just in case things didn't work.23:14
jack_sprattits possible to install kubuntu onto a 2gb usb pendrive isnt it?23:15
ali__so wat about my Kontact not working?23:15
tzdArtimus: alright, added: /home to mount location. Type is ext3. Checked the options: "activate on start" and "writeable". Mount rights are set to: Only system admin can activate or inactivate23:16
Artimustzd: Sounds right to me.  Click save if there's a save button and quit out.  We'll check fstab just to verify.23:16
tzdArtimus: ok, will run mv /home /home.bak23:16
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Artimustzd: Not quite yet23:16
Artimustzd: You don't want to do that until right before you reboot...23:17
tzdArtimus: ok23:17
geniijack_spratt: If you basically copy the livecd version and modify the fstab 2Gb is OK. If you want a fullblown install, look more towards 4Gb23:17
Artimustzd: Alright, open a terminal and run this as a normal user:  cat /etc/fstab | grep home23:17
tzdArtimus: i've clicked ok and set the mount point etc, although, the partition is inactivated?23:17
sensaeEvery time I start up I have to go into the network manager, and disable / enable my wired connection to get it to DHCP. Anyone know how to fix this?23:18
Artimustzd: The command will tell you if it worked.  It should spit out a line, please paste that line here (it's not that long)23:18
tzdArtimus:  /dev/sda8 /home ext3 nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 023:18
jack_sprattgenii: more towards? will a fresh install fit on a 2gb one?23:18
Artimustzd: That's fine.  /dev/sda8 was your new partition, right?23:18
geniijack_spratt: No, not enough room. Default install is about 2.6G23:18
tzdArtimus: yep :)23:18
jack_spratthmm, are kubuntu xubuntu any smaller do you know?23:19
Artimustzd: Alright.  Close anything you have open (specifically any email clients).  mv /home /homebak23:19
Demonho-brhello,  my keyboard is u.s  im running kde  and i can see the flag u.s  in my panel.. but i cant type  everything right. ´e  ´a   C~ao    i want these symbols.. above letters. how can i do it ?23:19
geniijack_spratt: Xubuntu takes just about 2G, very close23:19
Artimustzd: Then reboot and hope for the best...  Everything looks right to me.23:19
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Demonho-brin kcontrol i had set.  use keyboard layout. its  us   intl  keyboard model pc105   because its a notebook23:20
tzdArtimus: the "nouser" in fstab.. that doesn't affect my right to use the partition as user?23:20
Artimustzd: That just says that you as a user can't unmount it23:20
tzdArtimus: ok cool. ok, will give it a go and hopefully I'm back within the next 5-10 minutes. Thanks for your help and patience in this matter! Highly appreciated! :)23:20
Artimustzd: I wish you the best23:21
tzdArtimus:  cheers :)23:21
geniijack_spratt: A way of basically using the Casper version (livecd) and moving then modifying some files on it to work on a usb stick can be found here: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar23:23
geniijack_spratt: That will run on less than 1 Gb leaving room for installing a few things23:24
yurimxpxmanwhat can I use to convert a video to VOB?23:25
tekteenyurimxpxman: mencoder23:25
tekteenyurimxpxman: for a gui dvd creator use devede23:26
tekteen!info devede23:26
ubotudevede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB23:26
Edulixhi sometimes alsa amarok (using xine backend) says that the device is in use23:26
Edulix I restart alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa restart) and it still says so23:27
Edulix and the only way I've found to fix it is..rebooting23:27
Edulix(not even cat /dev/random > /dev/audio works, it says "device busy")23:27
crimsunwell, using oss emulation is blocking unless you have hardware capable of multiopen.23:28
crimsunso, as root/using sudo, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*23:28
jack_sprattgenii: thats really great thanks23:28
geniijack_spratt: np23:30
sub[t]rnlheres another usefull page for all things usb. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/23:31
pdenapoHi, the latest kernel for gutsy seems to have some nasty bug. My computer fails to boot with it,it hangs with a message "waiting  for the root filesystem"23:32
pdenapothe kernel 2.6.25-5 from hardy has the same problem. However a _vanilla_ 2.6.24 kernel compiled by hand just works fine23:33
pdenapoI seems to be something related to the ide disk23:33
geniipdenapo: Likely your initram does not not contain the driver needed to understand what ide controller driver to load prior to mounting root fs23:34
c1|freakyok now again. i have a question about apt-pinning. i installed drivers from ati.com and dont want ubuntu to upgrade the drivers to the ubuntu versions. i wrote the following in /etc/apt/preferences: http://main.freakyy.de/apt-pinning.txt - it still tries to install ubuntu packages when doing apt-get upgrade - can someone help me and tell me what im doing wrong?23:35
pdenapoI just skiped using the initrd23:35
pdenapoand the vanilla kernel works23:35
jack_sprattgenii: how would I go about making a fresh kubuntu install share an existing KDE distro's /home directory?23:35
pdenapoI would like to report the bug properly, however how may I capture the messages from a kernel that fails to boot?23:35
jack_sprattpdenapo: boot up a livecd, and access the logs23:36
geniic1|freaky: Since the ubuntu drivers are contained within the meta-package of restricted-drivers it could be a bit tricky if you use other restricted drivers than the ati one23:36
c1|freakyim using ati drivers but from ati.com23:36
c1|freakyi dont want to use the ones from kubuntu23:36
c1|freakythey never worked for me.23:36
c1|freakyand now they even try to replace the working ones ^^23:37
Alex135Pentarex: yes?23:37
tzdArtimus: that didn't work I'm afraid. The error message i get when i try to login is: "could not start kstartup config"23:37
Pentarexhow to id23:37
Pentarexhow to identified me23:37
geniijack_spratt: Is the /home on a separate partition ?23:37
Pentarexto ident my nickname23:38
Alex135 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>23:38
Demonho-brwhat about my Keyboard !! ?23:38
pdenapojack_spratt: the problem is that if the kernel cannot mount the root filesystem, syslog won't just work23:38
jack_sprattgenii: no23:38
sub[t]rnlc1|freaky➜ is there a reason your leaving out the pin-priority in your /etc/apt/prefrences?23:39
jack_sprattpdenapo: im not sure sorry23:39
c1|freakysub[t]rnl: its optional ..23:39
c1|freakyill try priority 9923:39
sub[t]rnltry 100123:39
pdenapojack_spratt: many thanks anyway23:40
andre_hello all...23:40
c1|freakysub[t]rnl: still tries to upgrade :((23:40
tzdArtimus: actually now when i checked my home dir, the free space is a lot bigger (it's using the partition). Although it won't work when i move the default home directory.23:41
Daisuke_Idommmkay, patience certainly got interesting with the new version23:41
andre_i was using gnu/linux many years ... - in many distros (suse6.2-9.2 / debian3.1/4.0 gentoo lfs and so on) - but kubuntu is the best distro off all !!!23:41
andre_iam thanking all developers of kubuntu !23:42
andre_ubuntu is better as distro, but i dont like gnome, so iam using kubuntu...23:42
Daisuke_Idojust out of curiosity, why don't you like gnome?23:43
genii_Gah. Ghosted23:44
andre_cause it have to less options for personalisations...23:44
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andre_hope my english is not to broken *g23:45
geniic1|freaky: Did you get my last message or 2?23:45
geniijack_spratt: So as I gather.. you want to keep a standalone install on hard drive, then occasionally boot to usb but use the /home on the hard drive as the /home when you boot to usb?23:45
andre_of course, i mean the best desktop-distro... on servers i would prefer debian or gentoo23:47
Daisuke_Idoi wouldn't recommend gentoo unless you like working on your computer more than getting work done23:47
Daisuke_Idodebian on a server, most definitely23:47
jack_sprattgenii: perhaps, but im also considering squeezing kubuntu onto a 4gb ish partition next to an existing kde based linux install, and to save space and to make for ease of use, have them both share the same /home folder23:48
c1|freakyi got it to work23:48
c1|freakyi forgot the version part23:48
Daisuke_Idoi just hear a lot of new users saying "oh, i hate gnome" and i have to ask why...  and i inevitably get the same answer: "you can't change it" and i have to ask "did you try it, or were you just told that gnome sucks?"  most of the time, they're just told and never bother to look for themselves.23:48
jack_sprattgenii: does that sound plausible? cant i just set the home mount point on another automounted partition?23:48
c1|freakythank you :D23:48
andre_Daisuke_Ido, i dont understand why u wouldnt recommend gentoo23:49
geniijack_spratt: Yes, that will work.23:49
jack_sprattgenii so during the installation process i have the opportunity to set the home mount point, and then i can point it to another partition23:50
jack_sprattgenii: and the .kde files etc being shared wont mess up either one of the installations?23:50
andre_gentoo is great if u need special server-applicatioons...  or secial settings23:50
geniijack_spratt: You could also do something like put a bindmount of /mountpoint/harddrive/home /home     or so23:50
geniijack_spratt: So that all new users will also be created on the hd as well and not on the usb23:50
jack_sprattgenii, hmm, whats a bindmount?23:51
jack_spratt! bindmount23:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bindmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:51
geniijack_spratt: bind mount is to mount a directory somewhere else23:51
jack_spratti see like a permanent virual link23:52
tlaytonhmm, with today's updates, it's like my mouse driver is loaded twice. every click is a double click, including on spaces like the window bars. anybody?23:52
jack_sprattgenii: ok that sounds like it could work - can you create a bindmount without using cli?23:53
geniijack_spratt: Well, best is to put an fstab entry for it, but you may have to use cli for that part.23:53
jack_sprattgenii: ok im pretty comfortable with fsmount23:54
jack_sprattgenii: you see, my dads familiar with pclos, but only kubuntu will work with his video card without VESA23:54
sensaeHrm. Would I have a problem mounting an NFS of my /home on an openSuSE system right on top of my home on Kubuntu?23:54
jack_sprattgenii:so to have both might be a compramise (windows is already on there in another partition)23:55
Daisuke_Idowhat's his video card?23:56
geniijack_spratt: I would say to setup the kubuntu usb stick with whatever default user, then afterwards create a new user with same name as on hd. Then make an fstab entry for just that user to mount for instance /mnt/olddrive/home/username  to usb dir of /home/username23:56
jack_sprattDaisuke_Ido: intel 845 chipset23:57
jack_sprattgenii: sounds like a plan, very useful, thanks23:57
geniijack_spratt: np23:58
jack_sprattDaisuke_Ido: meh, just tried replacing the i810 drivers on pclos07 with that from kubuntu, but it still just freezes on test like before23:59
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