[00:33] <ReBooT_BR> alguem brasileiro ou alguem que fale portugués ?
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #189450 in launchpad-answers "Allow to delete a mirrored branch." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189450
[05:13] <poolie> thumper, jml, hi?
[05:13] <jml> hi
[05:13] <jml> wassup?
[05:13] <poolie> is it possible to delete a branch through the web ui?
[05:14] <poolie> oh, i was confused because staging logs me out when it resets
[05:14] <poolie> i'll fix that...
[05:14] <jml> poolie: there are still some kinks, but I believe that you can
[05:14] <jml> (or at least, I know that abentley is working on something related to branch deletion)
[05:16] <poolie> ok
[05:16] <poolie> i think this is it: if the branch has attachments you can't delete it
[05:16] <poolie> which is, probably ok
[05:16] <poolie> but you can't even think about deleting it, which is problematic :)
[05:16] <poolie> ie the menu item is not there
[05:19] <spiv> It would be nice if the menu item were there, and lead you to a page saying "you can't delete this branch because..."
[05:19] <poolie> i think so
[05:20] <jamesh> at a minimum, show the menu item in disabled state
[05:21] <jamesh> to show "you have permission to delete the branch, but need to do something else first"
[05:25] <poolie> right
[05:25] <poolie> is there a "disabled state" in the launchpad ui standard?
[05:25] <poolie> but i think that would not be a good choice here because it's not obvious what you have to do to enable it
[05:25] <jamesh> we use it for the tabs across the top.  Don't know about the menus down the side
[05:25] <poolie> oh right
[05:31] <poolie> it's bug 133988
[05:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133988 in launchpad-bazaar "Explain why a branch can't be deleted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133988
[06:10] <thumper> poolie: this is the exact thing that abentley is looking at
[06:16] <jml> thumper: how was the beach?
[06:17] <thumper> jml: very nice, but I didn't put enough sunscreen on Caitlin and she has a strip of red across her back :-(
[06:18] <jml> :(
[06:19] <jml> thumper: get a new ozone layer
[06:35] <poolie> abentley, thumper, yay!
[06:41] <poolie> stub, hi?
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #189489 in launchpad "In-code doctests require # ELLIPSIS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189489
[07:21] <stub> poolie: hi
[08:32] <oojah> Morning
[08:35] <oojah> Is there any support in launchpad for importing data from other bugtrackers? Say I had a project with a reasonably large "Request Tracker" database, how likely is it that we'd be able to work out a migration?
[08:41] <mwhudson> fairly likely
[08:41] <mwhudson> but it's done case-by-case
[08:41] <mwhudson> (i think)
[08:41] <oojah> Sure thing, that's what I'd expect.
[08:42] <mwhudson> ask a question on the 'launchpad' project i guess
[08:43] <carlos_> morning
[08:44] <oojah> It's no sure thing at the moment - I'm just trying to offer it as a possibilty to a project and without help importing data it'd definitely be a no-no :)
[08:45] <oojah> Thanks.
[09:08] <thisfred_> carlos, thanks for your answer yesterday, I suddenly had to run for a train ;)
[09:08] <carlos> thisfred_: np
[09:42] <brutopia> how can I get my account completely removed?
[09:42] <brutopia> deactivating leaves it accessible
[09:43] <jtv> brutopia: if it's deactivated, it's not really an "account" anymore.  More a record of the fact that your name is mentioned.
[09:44] <brutopia> how can I then remove the record
[09:44] <brutopia> that bastard gets indexed in google with my real name even if I changed the name months ago
[10:08] <No`> hi all
[10:09] <No`> pontentially stupid question of the day: is there any significant difference between "regular" launchpad and "egde"?
[10:10] <jelmer> edge runs a slightly newer version of the launchpad software
[10:10] <No`> jelmer: yeah, I know
[10:10] <No`> jelmer: but what are the main difference?
[10:11] <No`> is there a "CHANGELOG" available?
[10:12] <No`> or... said otherwise: "why should I switch to edge rather than the classic version?" ;)
[10:12] <mrevell> No`: Hmm, there isn't a changelog as such
[10:12] <mrevell> No`: I'm not sure how much you know about the LP release process, so I'll give you a quick intro :)
[10:13] <No`> might help, yes
[10:13] <mrevell> We release a new version of Launchpad once a month. Leading up to that release, naturally the team commits code throughout the month.
[10:14] <mrevell> Non-database affecting changes are available the next day on Edge, thanks to Bazaar allowing us to automatically push it out once a day
[10:14] <mrevell> Actually, this page might help: https://help.launchpad.net/BetaTesting
[10:15] <mrevell> So, anyway, those commits aren't shown in a publically available changelog until the release, at which point I publish the release notes.
[10:16] <No`> ok, got it now. So there is no major difference between edge and normal launchpad, except on the foreground. The data is affected the same way?
[10:18] <mrevell> No`: Yeah
[10:18] <brutopia> how to remove launchpad account completely?
[10:19] <brutopia> is there anyone here with admin rights?
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #189522 in malone ""I don't know" refused when reporting a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189522
[10:30] <mrevell> brutopia: Hi
[10:31] <mrevell> brutopia: You can remove your Launchpad account by following this guide:
[10:31] <mrevell> brutopia: https://help.launchpad.net/DeactivatingYourAccount
[10:31] <mrevell> Do you mind me asking why you want to deactivate your account?
[10:35] <mrevell> brutopia: If that isn't quite what you want, then you'd need to file an admin request at: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[10:53] <brutopia> I already deactivated multiple times and account page can still be accessed
[11:41]  * Hobbsee waves
[11:41] <Fujitsu> Morning, Hobbsee.
[14:33] <synic> kiko: you there?
[14:36] <kiko> synic, always
[14:36] <kiko> what's up?
[14:37] <synic> actually, nevermind :)  I was going to ask you if you'd delete a branch for me, but I found that I could rename it, which is more what I wanted anyway.
[14:37] <synic> it became corrupted somehow
[14:38] <kiko> you can delete it yourself, though
[14:39] <synic> I unlinked the bugs related to it, but the delete link never showed up
[14:39] <synic> no blueprints were related either
[14:39] <kiko> synic, and subscribers?
[14:39] <synic> there were those, but I wasn't sure how to remove them
[14:42] <kiko> synic, yeah, you need to ask them to unsub currently. I know that abentley is working on this, though.
[14:43] <synic> ah, yeah, that would have been a problem.  The developer that pushed the broken branch has disappeared; he might be off at school or something.  Thanks though :)
[14:43] <synic> (and that same dev was subscribed)
[15:48] <linux__alien> I ve created a key and uploaded the key to the server and i ve got an email from launchpad too and ve installed FireGPG to decrypt it so selected the big chunk of text and tried decrypting it but it says its not a valid key 
[15:48] <linux__alien> how do i proceed from here 
[15:48] <linux__alien> can some one here help me please
[15:48] <linux__alien> i want to become a Ubuntero :)
[15:49] <oojah> linux__alien: I'm sure someone can (not me, alas), but not everyone is paying continuous attention to the irc channel. Give them a little bit and I'm sure you'll get an answer :)
[15:50] <kiko> I'm paying attention
[15:50] <kiko> but I think linux__alien is doing something wrong on his end.
[15:50] <kiko> how about using gpg directly?
[15:52] <pygi> hello folks
[15:52] <pygi> I have some problems when doing bzr push
[15:52] <pygi> Unable to obtain lock lp--1221404884:///lock
[15:53] <pygi> any ideas? ^_^
[15:53] <linux__alien> kiko, ok got it now i decrypted it and it gave me a link and it said the key has been validated but still my status as ubuntero is no 
[15:53] <linux__alien> what else should i do 
[15:53] <pochu> linux__alien: sign the Code Of Conduct
[15:56] <pygi> anyone has any ideas? ^_^
[15:56] <linux__alien> pochu, i did that too i signed it 
[15:57] <linux__alien> and pasted it too and clicked continue 
[15:57] <linux__alien> and now it shows me a page showing Active Signatures 
[15:57] <linux__alien> and it shows me what i ve pasted against a check box 
[15:57] <kiko> pygi, that's not the full message.
[15:57] <kiko> linux__alien, so you're an ubuntero now.
[15:58] <linux__alien> it says if you change your mind you can deactivate your signature 
[15:58] <pygi> kiko, thats true :)
[15:58] <linux__alien> kiko, is that all ? Great so should i save some of these things?
[15:58] <kiko> linux__alien, save what? :)
[15:58] <pygi> kiko, this is: http://pastebin.com/m8e97a1c
[15:59] <linux__alien> kiko, i ve saved the key after i used the FireGPG
[15:59] <kiko> pygi, bzr break-lock.
[15:59] <linux__alien> anything else should i save?
[16:03] <pygi> kiko, tried that, it breaks the lock, but when I try to push, it happens again
[16:03] <kiko> pygi, do it until it reports no locks left
[16:03] <kiko> linux__alien, nothing.
[16:07] <pygi> kiko, thanks
[16:10] <kiko> pygi, IIRC there can be two locks -- a repo lock and a tree lock. IIRC.
[17:44] <sm> good morning
[17:44] <sm> I believe rosetta strips out #. Default lines from po files, is that right ?
[17:53] <kiko> sm, hmmm, not 100% sure
[17:53] <sm> I believe so.. and I think my project or some tool needs them.. but I forget why
[17:54]  * sm needs to find out what they are for
[17:55] <sm> does anyone have a documented process for maintaining project translations from both launchpad and source-code contributions ?
[17:56] <sm> mine is so-so
[17:58] <sm> extracted comments from programmer to translator, I see
[18:03] <carlos> sm: you can maintain translations in Launchpad directly, could you give more details of your needs?
[18:04] <sm> my project accepts translations both via launchpad and via darcs patches to the source
[18:05] <sm> this is tricky
[18:05] <carlos> sm: well, we are able to lock languages so no one could translate for them if you manage them in darcs
[18:06] <carlos> while the others using Launchpad could keep using Launchpad
[18:06] <carlos> if you want to use darcs and Launchpad for the same language... that's not a good idea
[18:06] <carlos> unless is the same user so there are no conflicts
[18:07] <sm> I see, but I want to allow any translator to use either tool at any time
[18:08] <carlos> sm: the problem there is that if user 'A' does a translation in Launchpad and user 'B' updates it too, you have a conflict
[18:08] <carlos> in Launchpad we know about it and we have some locking features to prevent data lose in those cases
[18:08] <sm> yes, and dealing with this is tricky and time-consuming
[18:09] <carlos> but darcs doesn't know how to handle it
[18:09] <carlos> sm: do you mean is tricky and time-consuming our handling of duplicates? or in general that kind of conflicts?
[18:11] <sm> http://paste.lisp.org/display/55481 is my current procedure for keeping lp and darcs in agreement, which is time consuming
[18:13] <sm> makes sense ?
[18:13] <sm> make mergelp uses msgmerge
[18:14] <carlos> sm: does launchpad strip out #. comments?
[18:14] <sm> I believe some, but not all
[18:14] <carlos> sm: please, file a bug, we should not lose data at all
[18:14] <sm> will do
[18:14] <carlos> sm: if possible, give us how to reproduce it so we can debug it better
[18:14] <carlos> sm: thanks
[18:14] <carlos> sm: about "apply any new translation patches"
[18:15] <carlos> is that people sending patches directly to darcs ?
[18:15] <sm> right
[18:15] <sm> I have a few developers who prefer that
[18:15] <carlos> so you are the only one able to do such commits?
[18:15] <sm> currently that's true, though about to change
[18:15] <carlos> sm: our advise is
[18:16] <carlos> use Launchpad as the way to 'submit' translations to your project
[18:16] <carlos> sm: you provide .pot file template updates
[18:16] <carlos> and people will use Launchpad or download/upload feature if they don't want to use the web interface
[18:17] <carlos> so you get translations from Launchpad from time to time and update your source tree
[18:17] <sm> I see.. so they can still use their tools that way
[18:17] <carlos> right
[18:17] <carlos> you save the translations merging in your tree
[18:17] <carlos> because we do it automatically every time you upload an updated .pot file
[18:17] <sm> you are right, this is much better
[18:18] <carlos> and also, the merge with .pot file is not needed either
[18:18] <sm> possibly the web interface was the only option when I started this..
[18:18] <carlos> because we do it too
[18:18] <carlos> sm: hmm, not really, upload/download has been there since first day, although maybe we did some improvements that makes it easier
[18:19] <carlos> sm: also, we are open to any suggestion to improve your workflow
[18:20] <sm> ok, maybe I just misjudged then. We had an existing darcs translation process that was working well when lp arrived. I thought I had to keep that going for some other reason too.. hmm
[18:21] <sm> I think your suggestion is the way to go, I will simplify
[18:21] <sm> thanks, carlos!
[18:21] <carlos> sm: you are welcome
[18:25] <sm> I should upload the latest pot to launchpad periodically, and I don't need to warn translators, am I right ?
[18:27] <kiko> yes, that's right
[18:27] <kiko> everything will work out fine
[18:30] <sm> great
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #189751 in malone "Assigning a bug to a non-published package gives a wrong string" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189751
[23:29] <Legendario> hi. How should i do to upload different distributions of the same source? should i only edit the changelog and build the source again
[23:29] <Legendario> ?
[23:35] <Legendario> anyone here that can answer me this, please?
[23:35] <gryc_> Legendario: sounds right
[23:37] <Legendario> gryc, do i have to pbuild the package again?
[23:37] <gryc> I believe so
[23:46] <Legendario> gryc, could you answer me a question about cdbs?
[23:48] <gryc> sorry, I've only made it through the debhelper part of the packaging guide :D
[23:49] <Legendario> gryc, do you knwo how to specify the path of the make file in the debian/rules?
[23:49] <gryc> no clue
[23:52] <crimsun> Legendario: did ion_ not answer you?
[23:53] <Legendario> crimsun, sorry. i hadn't seen it...